season it was a lot of it was some baby steps of like going back to that route and just placing a lot of gear so I felt super safe and then you know climbing it in the same style that I was going to climb with Alex I'm climbing it but still placing more gear and then during my try this year actually told Alex because he was he's definitely more comfortable than almost anyone I know on El Cap most people at least feel a little bit of intimidation and a little bit of fear like you know there's a little bit of anxiety around it and he's just as so casual that he he's just like you know just run it out let go go all the way like he's basically just wanted me to do it the same way that I was doing it before and I was like you know Alex I'm going to be a little slower this time like I just I think I need that for my head and ears okay well it just so the audience knows Alex told me that he did a route once and on his way up realize that he hadn't brought any chalk so he had to borrow it from someone else who was strapped to ropes so he's free soloing no chalk retrieve the bag that's a classic Alex situation bring like if you lift weights you you like chalk it's like it's very important for me to and he's just he's a different I think he's truly unique you know and I think I think that he just has a different like even brain chemistry than a lot of us in terms of like how he feels fear and how he can maintain that composure in a very dangerous situation all the time yeah is that all the time and it's great climbing with him actually because it kind of rubs off on me a little bit like when I climb with Alex I feel more confident I feel more capable I tend to climb better even though he kind of gives me s*** all the time for being nervous he's always like you're always nervous like you're you're always stressing out but it's actually when I'm with him I'm like you know what I can chill out a little bit I can like I can I can be on that wavelength a little bit more so that's part of the reason why I like that makes sense I mean I guess when you're around people that are if you're doing a thing and you're around people that are excellent at that thing it's contagious or at least it inspirational go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

even what you did cuz it's pretty crazy so I did was called free-climbing I free-climbed a route on El Capitan which of the 3200 foot cliff in Yosemite National Park and they did it in under 24 hours Harrington becomes the first woman to scale El Capitan via it's notoriously difficult Golden Gate route why is that route more difficult tree climbing being using only your hands and feet to ascend a rope in case you fall and I chose the root called Golden Gate which is more difficult than the root free-rider which people are very familiar with because that's the route that Alex Honnold free soloed meaning he climbed it without a rope yeah I don't know if he understands those things about him no I mean I have an enormous amount of respect for him but what he does is is truly remarkable on your forehead less serious but maybe more dramatic cuz it it happens like way higher up on the wall 28 it was a it was a whole it was very dramatic I was actually going really well I've been trying to do this for a few years now probably I would say three years I've been working towards this goal and I'd actually done the route in 2015 6 days and I really wanted to like do the same route in 24 hours from when you wake up when you go to bed oh yeah vertically plastic bags go in that bag and put it in another bag and that's like how you do it when you live on the wall so you have that ledge Michael Jackson song so you sleep in that thing I would get zero sleep like sleeping when I'm near the edge of my bed I get nervous the whole like how used to it yet you just said just the human body is like like humans are really remarkable in their ability to like adapt to things and so it's pretty cool how yeah it's really scary at first but then the more you do it the more you're just like okay well, when you're sleeping so like if you roll out and you're one of those people that like rolls out of bed at night then a feeling of like waking up swinging hanging from your harness called the dawn wall and he's up there for 17 days so we can eat imagine 17 days like we could all the stuff that's like he's like a homeless person up there didn't so he's using everything but his index it's growing economies of growing in popularity but it definitely used to be like a little bit like a small little community and I think we still feel that way of people who are seeing people like Alex Honnold and yourself become famous and get all this attention from these very dangerous climbs and they want to perhaps accelerate their progress and jump right in and try to do some really risky things I mean I could see that being a danger especially with like with Alex does climb without a rope I would still argue that what I do is a relatively safe form of climbing climbing the Rope when I called the Rope catches me it's super safe when I want call the Rope free climbing El Capitan today what would I just did I definitely cut some corners and took more risk but that's an achievement that not many people have done or really strive to do and so I think I think for the most part, he's actually a very controlled very safe activity and you can make it as dangerous as you want it to be does that make sense unique in a way and I think anyone that watch the movie free solo anyone that talk to Alex understands that what he does is he it's so well thought-out and it's so well-planned and every single decision he makes his very calculated and I think that that's just her and I think that that's a testament to what climbing is truly about like we're not like we're not out to go feel an adrenaline rush when we go climbing like if you're feeling address is something music you messed up the wrong climbing is very much more about like the movement and the challenge and the mental challenge of all of it then then going out in like trying to get a thrill how did you get involved in this I started climbing when I was 10 years old in Boulder Colorado and my parents used to take me to the boulder Reservoir this Lake me and my where does the Subaru stereo provides 16th birthday 70% of the cars out there and we were just like super competitive with each other all the time like all I wanted to do is be better than them at like literally anything it didn't matter what it was we're at this Lake and they had a little festival with one of those Tower Rock Towers you know the ones that they let the kids climb on and we all try to climb the wall and I just remember it was like why I have to go to the top because they went to the top and you know there's like no other option but the interesting thing that happened when I was climbing was it was just this feeling of like oh this is what I this is what I meant to do like it was like I just felt like I belonged up there and I remember the feeling so vividly even now 23 years later I was like I was scared but I kind of liked it and I just really I got down and I like that I want to go climbing like that's what I want to do on a quit everything else I was a gymnast I played soccer as a ski racer I was like I want to do I don't do any of that anymore I just want time go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

when you have these moments where things don't go well when you have a fall or you when you had your concussion and you got really banged up overcoming those things what is that like cuz I would imagine that it's such a scary thing to do will maybe for me on those much for you but watching pictures of you my hand sweat like legitimately hand sweat when we watch him but yeah so for me it's I think brick nipple when I when I hit my head this time the time I got the scar I was on one of my day had gone so perfectly like I was climbing super well everything was great there it is so I was climbing and in the sun I slipped off I felt like I was just going to have a really normal fall super safe like nothing bad is going to happen in the night I had and I instantly like just felt the blood pouring down my face and it was super dramatic and it was super scary and I lowered down and Adrian sort of assess me for concussion symptoms and tried to you know figure out if there was anything super serious and turns out that there wasn't really and so it came time to decide like oh should I keep going or should I give up like what you know what what's the best course of action now and honestly in my head I was like part of me was like I don't want to keep climbing like I'm emotionally kind of destroyed and and drained and I don't think I can and the next pitch is a hard one which is where I think I went wrong because I was sort of thinking ahead like I wasn't focusing on what was happening in front of me I was thinking about the next pitch and I was like I need to get this one out of the way so that I can focus on the hard-won and therefore I was climbing the sun when it's too hot like the friction is not as good it's more slippery all those things and I was rushing it didn't rest enough for two imagine like a a granite face just like baking in the sun like everything's more slippery and you're you're all sweaty and so it's just not ideal and I could have waited but I didn't so I, I was climbing and I was like kind of traversing and so I was trying to do this move and I rushed it and I slipped and I fell but I had like a piece of gear down into my right and I just didn't I just didn't anticipate like the physics of how I was going and I kind of fell sideways and I couldn't get my feet out in front of me and time and we watch the footage later was just like it was kind of like my head just like bounces off the wall like a like a basketball and I must have just hit like a crystal or something with my forehead like some sort of something sticking out of the Rock and there was blood everywhere like head wounds they just you know they believe they bleed a lot and so there was a lot of blood and it lower down and it was super bummed shattered like I could I just kept thinking back to last year as I don't know my attempts over everything is going so well like that sucks and I was letting myself go to that place of doubt and that place is like it's over it's because Jen rushing and not placing enough protection and without being caught all that it was pretty serious is definitely the worst accident I've ever had and it was I walked out of hospital that day which is incredible like that just doesn't happen very often there's me review footage of it was dark when I started climbing is footage of Alex Honnold is belaying me there's footage of him bullying me so he was like time and it's actually it is a more dangerous form of climbing than just like one person climbing while the other person belays them and then they and then I would stop and bring him up and then we go on from there like instead we were climbing together definitely like a advanced strategy was someone filming a movie about me and he was filming cuz he was there filming that attempt and he was filming Alex is Alex was like sitting on the ground getting ready how long does it take to fall 50 ft to imagine that's a few seconds like a mental hurdle to get over for this year and then this year something similar happens only I was way higher on the wall but I was really close to succeeding this time and I had this part of me was like why just want to give up like I don't want to do this anymore I want to be done like I'm tired of this project I'm over it over the last year what was the process of recovering like how long does it take before you felt comfortable enough to climb again think I definitely got away with one it was one of those things I got away with one like I walked out of the hospital I was back climbing I took I think it took a month off but I went to like I went to Ecuador and climb to a volcano with my dad and like went skiing and just did a bunch of things like how we went and he's like super passionate about everything in this was his dream was like go con is volcano in Ecuador and we've been planning it for months and I actually felt that was one of the reasons I felt so bad that I got her it was like I was like oh no I'm supposed to go on this trip with my dad in like you know we had this whole plan he's a training he trained like 4 months he's 65 years old you know was one of those things damage did you suffer in terms of how long does it take for you to recover honestly I would say I felt pretty normal within a month a little back pain concussion symptoms you were climbing to the doctor and she shouldn't do that when you watch the footage of the fall and you you and you see yourself hit the wall and just the impact and what happened to you does that obviously didn't deter you from doing anything but is it change the way you approach climbing yes and no I I think the reason that it was a little bit easier for me to overcome that hurdle was because I was it was really obvious what had gone wrong and I was really obvious than what it gone wrong wrong was within my control like I simply had not placed enough protection for the difficulty of the rude it was an easy easy climbing for me but it was really dark it was cold it was slippery and I was like just going too fast and not placing enough Gear episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

speaking of fighting speaking of old dudes fighting Mike Tyson and Roy Jones jr. this weekend what do you think of that interesting crazy right 2 years ago yeah yeah yeah but that's still it still ring rust yeah not as much as icing but still ring rust and so it's going to be interesting then because both guys are like not just Champions but they are Hall of Fame Champions the most people that I've heard talk say Roy is going to get ran through I don't know I don't know what's going to happen I think it's going to boil down to which one of them are more prepared that's what I think is going to happen so come down to who's more prepared but they are definitely have different sizes you know Roy's he's a legend they're both Legends but Roy Champion 168 lb Champion 175 be true he's at he was about 200 when he won the heavyweight title but he was never really like a big tank different person and I don't like that they're switching it's two minute rounds... Drives me crazy but how many rounds is 882 minute rounds to drag Tyson out like he's like if Tyson's going to be he's going to beat me quick he's like I want this fight to go Eagles I want to get him tired and goes and I have much more of a chance to get him tired Fight 3 minute rounds he's like a grown man and I guess the WBC was 22 Julio Cesar Chavez I think had a boxing exhibition recent I think it was Chavez was some some Legend those retired that a boxing exhibition recently and was real tired and their thought was you know what instead of letting them get this tired let's make him despite short around but Roy's like with his like what women fight the women Brown So Cal sexual but he didn't either yeah it would have been nice if got it bad if it's bad cut it says but f*** out of here with that should be a boxing match these are legit I both get about when it's over oh no no participation trophy when that Bell goes off that is going to be a f****** fight Mike Tyson is not fighting any exhibitions he's going to come bobbing and weaving swinging death with each hand and Roy Jones jr. is going to be moving and throwing that nasty left hook and let the best man win but that is going to be a fight I cannot imagine those two legends are just going to move around like if you watch Roy Jones jr. hit the pada mesin hit the bad lately he looks f****** fantastic he's fast his hands look amazing Mike looks amazing I mean both of them look like they're taking this very seriously I can't imagine a world where someone doesn't connect and some crazy s*** doesn't happen yeah this is one of those things go down there for the way everything we hear some crazy the distance that we are apart from each other on this table I was going to make it closer because this new Studios a little more compact but I had Mike in at the last podcast Mike's been out twice he was on once about 11 months ago when he was on 11 months ago he said he couldn't even work out because if I work out my ego get ignited and then I just want to destroy again I want to be the Mike Tyson voice I won't have nothing to do with that that's my past I'm done then he started his wife called him fat and he start working out and he goes in to start out like 15 minutes on the treadmill next thing you know I'm doing 2 hours 2 hours on the treadmill he gets in tremendous shape and then someone says you know would you would you boxes to all I'm not I'm not box anybody and then they go what about 4:30 million dollars oh wow so you lost almost a hundred pounds that's incredible probably pushing 300 pounds at one point not when I saw him at 11 months ago he wasn't a priority but he was probably about like maybe 2:50 or something like that so he definitely lost about thirty pounds but so the distance between us is because he was so amped up it was like a different human being the first time we're smoking weed relax and he's got Tyson Ranch now he's telling his own weed by the way strong as s*** his weed is like his punches there no f****** joke so first first podcast we did we got barbecued we had a great time Mike Alicia I'm getting high with Mike Tyson II podcast we did he was so intense and we were talking about like great conquerors and shity was talking about all these different things and I'm like I'm nervous is whole body chains like he's he's got golf balls under this this forearm muscle he just been training and you can tell he's he's like Mike Tyson about his mindset whether or not he's physically capable of it his mindset is like the Mike Tyson of old it was legitimately nervous to be in the room with them cuz I was just like wow like he's he's ready he's ready to go right now and I'm a little wider even closer to him than this because this is the exact distance of the old table but the new tables like I might make it about like a foot closer but if I was a foot closer to Mike like this I probably be nervous I'd be more nervous job of communicating with people in case I'm across from some amped-up killer like Mike Tyson you Just Dance I mean it's not like I think he's going to hurt me but you get nervous I mean he he and Jamie said it best after he left you were like that was a totally different person shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

I like to tell people my past don't Define me and refined me or you see cuz it's so much that I see I have foresight now so much that I see that I've seen I've witnessed I've done myself personally or I've been very very close to the action and I'm a man well you know if you do this then more likely disability I come cuz I was like not that I didn't do anything wrong but I felt like if I'm going to do something wrong I trust me to not snitch me out the mid-eighties that was some cab killings in Houston that it was killing cab cab drivers right the guys who were involved who started it came to my house first to get me to go with them to hit a lick we probably in the hood you know like everybody need money some of us we're not going to eat you know if we don't go out there and kill something not literally kill a person but kill something so that we can that we can nourish our bodies right it came to me and I look out I see like it's the dude that one of the catch that's you know in the neighborhood that tough guy and I see like three other dudes with her and the next morning I hear a cab driver old black dude in the neighborhood where he wasn't but they killed him in the neighborhood eggs the elderly do and they only took like 30 something bucks so I know that's what happened right so then over the next like maybe 3 weeks for more cab drivers get killed and I know pretty pretty good idea just doing this right because I'm not the only one that didn't knows it's other people that know these guys and they're talkin so there is in the streets about this happening so then they get caught up and each of these guys they end up with the one that got the less years was like 15 years all these guys were minors accepting the main one butina like 19 years old so they end up with a minimum 15 years and then one that got the mattress like 40 years so my life would have been very very much different and I walked out that door that night well the people's experience to and I personally do believe that experience is not the best teacher other people's experience is the best teacher because if I see you go out and if you walk around the corner and you come back running back bleeding profusely my silly ass around the corner of right what was likely to happen to me what happened to me stick your head in the game thing I could never get with it I've never been a gang member so I don't know what these guys be thinking I don't know what that would they be thinking man but I just don't see an upside to it it hasn't horrible retirement plan you know most of the dudes most of the dudes are killed before the 30 a man they have a extensive criminal history there their opportunities are severely limited because of the record people are afraid to do business with him is just way too much and I just feel I speak you know I'm just going to go ahead and plus I'm a black man in America is all kind of ways to get killed in their ways to die already alright okay with besides like stuff like natural death diabetes can lupus obesity all these type of things right that can kill you stroke car something like that you got domestic disputes why would I say I'm trying to avoid those type of things why would I walked right into something but it got a lot of people do like what what where did you get the wisdom like you the way you think right now this have you always thought this way where you plowed ahead and look at them like you playing 3D chess I did to an extent but I got a lot better at it in my 20s like late 20s I got really better than the reason why I say that is because in the trip part about it is that like there are dudes that I hate that tell me may you like a big brother to me you know because I've been knowing him since we were like teenagers one early twenties or whatever and I've always been just a few steps ahead and you know seeing what was going on it should be taught in schools angry Americans have a big problem with conflict resolution it should be taught in schools any of you politicians out that you want to work on a beer with me come on with it I'm down conflict resolution should be taught in schools because I remember being on stage mad and somebody would like Heckle like it would be a dude always a dude heckled like crazy for no reason and I would jump off stage Nakamura get back on stage Jackson Mississippi when did Jackson Mississippi and promoter owes us are back and you know they pay you the front end you know for signing the contract agreeing to do the show then you show up they pay you the rest we get there it's cause everywhere it's called line the streets if they're all on the grass we noticed big and for AutoZone care how many sold-out shows you you love to see the people trying out here you go that wow so this is one of those nights I manage Iero manager Chief comes back to the memo I know this is long ago I grabbed my cousin Dre we go in there say man you going to come up that money at first he chuckled say man a blicky I'll bring that money back here and got it out of that he gave us to my we came back to the limo being careful with this even got the money we got the money and now everything is good when on the stage and did the show and then left this is me like again cowboy western days not really thinking like like all kinds of things happened with that sure like going back on the stage just going back on the stage backup just taking that money like that in the first place if that's the case that could be a case okay then you going to stay in his hometown he could be rapping phone calls and that's it and it's whatever who does Jimmy. Different now in that exact same situation I will try to convince him to pay up like he still wouldn't get away with it but I would just do it differently yeah must pay they must pay they must pay because what you don't want to do is you don't want to have like being a situation where people owe you money and look man if it's an honest day's work for an honest day's pay nothing more nothing less shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

can we came with the we can't be stopped out. Album cover yeah she's Christ Bushwick Bill with a patch over his eye in the hospital gurney and you guys are rolling with him behind and not the album cover look at that I mean come on that is classic classic album cover I may be stuck and that's done that was done like totally spontaneously wow it was totally unplanned cuz we have finished the album and then which would get shot in this would happen a lot with with Bill like Bill could get a job done and like if he had something major do he get it done and then after you get it done and it was just something starts going on some stuff just us happen it so we have finished the album and you know get a call Bill got shot go to the hospital immediately in my mind is my car by Western Days May remind you I'm thinking Revenge don't hurt her I made her do it your Bushwick Bill impression is wrong over something and he was mad so pulled out the gun and he threatened to throw the baby downstairs and then he has the gun in the in the his girlfriend is like the tussling over the gun and so bills like shoot me shoot me shoot me this is what he said that you told her so gun goes off phone Beauty Shatner now I know building purposely shoot himself in the eyes didn't have anyone shoot bill just like walking on the edge and see you walk that ass I got Little Chute so get to the hospital and we go downstairs and Cliff Blodgett is there and at the time Cliff is the co-owner of rap-a-lot records and Cliff say and everybody we know we have a meeting in the lobby and your bills okay you going to survive Cliff fight back to business okay so what are we going to do about the album cover and I say we can shoot it Hitman album cover man you down back to the room the nurse could build on another Gurney and me and Brad rolling down the hall so the nurse was in a nurse New York I don't know but so to put the props on but he was reached they reached out whoever was representing him reached out and I had a you know I thought my shikadai booking myself I do months in advance I'm trying to coordinate s*** and it took a couple weeks remind me to find a date and I got a hold of them again but then he was sick he was real sick is in the hospital and they said he couldn't travel anymore and then shortly after he died who's pancreatic that's one of those ones to get you quick that's that's a bummer episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

message is this something that you have further developed over the years of arguing with people about it now it's mostly from what we did at Whole Foods cuz I had no background in business right I'm an entrepreneur I didn't I started here right in Austin that's right I first store here 40 or 42 years ago how old are you eating all that healthy Whole Foods is one thing that you guys did do that's very interesting right you created a market where it like if you tell people I go to Whole Foods you know people will you care about your health like your it's synonymous with healthy foods even in the name that whole foods that was our brand when we were up in, and then we got really rich but then once you have become really successful you make a lot of money they start to turn on you no. We became whole paycheck who wrote who said that I don't know but whoever did I wish they never saw it until right now you just should on yourself in a way that I never all I heard was Whole Foods I never heard whole paycheck I've been your team didn't do good research Amazon the whole paycheck has been around for a long time but are you were sorta you were with it and you were hip and cool and then the narrative went sour because it's like you're a fool for shopping there because you can get the same food cheaper elsewhere so you're going to whole paycheck so the narrative turned negative so to speak I still see that pretty much all the time although since our merger with Amazon with cutter prices many many times how to do that company if you're selling something for a dollar and you say you know what we need to sell this for $0.90 and you start selling it for $0.90 in the short run you just cut your sales 10% cuz she's not selling any more of it over the long-term people realized man I can get a good deal for $0.90 a pay back for it and they start to shop with the morning and you're also go up when you're public company in the markets very short-term oriented you pay a heavy price in the short-term reducing the prices and Amazon is willing to think long terminal at Whole Foods do that does Jeff Bezos got that long money son he has long money because he's had he's had a lot of brilliant ideas and put together pretty pretty good team yeah that guy working when you have a 150 in the bank hundred fifty billion what keeps you going most of it he has it in don't have it in the bank he's got it in so I could probably relax I mean I think I think the same thing it's keeps me going at age 67 I mean building something is great fun building Whole Foods I got plenty of money I don't need to work I just like it do you want to run Whole Foods like what's your relationship their hours today as I did when I was in my twenties and thirties but no question about it cuz I have put in a lot of 80-hour weeks then you're up you're up to here after a year of building so it wasn't as play I was having a blast it was fun famously said that if you're in a tech startup and you're not working 120 hour weeks you won't succeed never been at a tech startup so I can't speak for that the grocery business wasn't quite that hard but we did put a lot of 80 hours seems like not a lot of time to sleep and I'm a great believer in sleep sleep 8 hours a week $160 an hour 48 Hours / 7 that's almost 7 hours a night if all you did was work and sleep I don't know when he eats maybe have to eat when you're working but higher purpose if you have a purpose that's animating you it doesn't feel like work it feels like play it also attracts people to you that share the same purpose this is something that I find very frustrating and people that don't recognize that it is incredibly difficult to build a successful business when they just want to tax the s*** out of people and take all that money like do you think it's easy to make something like Whole Foods do you think it's easy to make a company like Tesla do you think it's it's not easy it's an insanely difficult task that's why don't do it. Go when someone does do it and they have become successful then other people start looking at it and go well they have all this money they should contribute more or they should do this or you know you're talkin about some people have suggested some extraordinary tax rates in order to get us out of this current recession and then I talk to businesspeople they say that is exact wrong approach because that's actually going to stifle business and business is the only thing that's going to bring us out of this if you incentivize businesses to take risks and to be open in to make more profits than more people going to get jobs then the economy bounces back but if you give them a gigantic tax burden they're going to be less likely to take chances they're not going to be able to survive the end in people on the outside who have never built a business like Whole Foods they don't seem to see that they don't say it alodia's is that people like on Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos they are there good Capital allocators so to speak they're not going to waste that money that money is going to be reinvested to create new and more Dynamic businesses that will help at the Innovations will help our society move forward when you just redistribute that money there's no more additional Innovation it's just it's just being consumed this whole idea that it's consumption that drives the economy is fundamentally a myth it's mostly creativity and Innovation and drives the economy so we need to keep that money in the hands of our most creative people which are entrepreneurs the creative business people and for some reason I promise I think because of Envy it seems so unfair again within a win-lose model if Jeff Bezos has 150 billion dollars then that's unfair and some sort of cosmic way that's unfair and I believe that somehow another others have less so there's like this fixed pie and Jeff took a big piece of it or or Elon Musk is taking a big piece of it but it's not a fixed pie that's the wrong metaphor Innovation ism is continually growing the pie and in fact humanity is demonstrable be better off because of the capitalist because of the Innovations you can your influence on people in a way that's detrimental to society you've achieved too high of a position you have too much power and you'll probably lose use that power to loosen regulations to bribe politicians or influence politicians and to get laws passed that are better for your business and stifle competition I think that's a powerful argument and if and when it happens you have to push back against shift to resistant I think most business people are not doing that I think I don't see that Jeff trying to pass or or I don't see I don't see Jeff trying to pass laws and save on Amazon Wild Oats back in 2017 actually made the acquisition but the FTC tried to stop it we not going into court with him and we actually won in court and very interesting the FTC has their own court and they Happily One in the federal courts they said when I we want to take a knitted our court the Whole Foods how many people have won in that court I think when I looked at it at that time this back in 2007 I think 46 of the 48 previous cases this is from memory so I could be wrong had lost so I want to take them to the thing I asked we're going to lose and then after that if they want to go to the Supreme Court will take us how much is it going to cost me to just fight them in their own course it's just going to cost you Thirty million dollars not to mention a lot of executive time in Flight man 30 million or we're going to lose and then we have to spend another 30 million dollars to go to the appeals and beyond that the lawyers love it by the way they want you to do it like divorce lawyers yes exactly how people fighting talk we ended up yes we ended up if they let the merger go through and we agree to sell off a bunch of stores and that was the best we could do how many stores have to sell off where we put up about 30 for sale I am only about about I don't know I think 5 or 6 weeks old or 6 episodes go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

what do you think about the concept of universal basic income but when you have a situation like a pandemic where so many people through no fault of their own are being forced out of work they cannot work but isn't that temporary situation but isn't that a good argument for Universal basic income at least for a temporary situation but when people are sick they need to be taken care when they're healthy Tony be taken care of they need to stand on their own two feet right but when you have a situation where they can't stand their own 2ft because they literally not allowed to work like California I mean California there they're just dirt right now shutting down restaurants that serve outside well I mean the update the alternate is not to shut down the economy but there's a lot of people that they get really hysterical about this and they think this only where we going to say people there's a lot of people out there with terrible health and they think that what we need to do is shut everything down and that's the only way we're going to be safe I was reading This Woman's Twitter the other day someone said something ridiculous and I'm like oh my God I need to check this person out and they were talking about hey you know I am ready to lock everything down for 5 weeks I don't go outside I stay away from everybody I order my my groceries delivered I'm ready to lock down for 5 weeks this is the most simplistic and individual perception of this problem but everyone should do what you're capable of doing the most people can't do this if they have a f****** business like they can't I'm ready to lockdown for 5 weeks but congratulations to you but some guy who runs some whatever figure out whatever store it is or whatever kind of business they need to be there in order to be open to stay at it to stay alive there's no other way to keep that business alive different they ever had their employees do you know you know the history of the 1918-1919 influenza epidemic pandemic that we know of in our modern history that's only a hundred years ago and 50 million people died worldwide I mean how many people died worldwide and Kovu couple million at this point and the population was 4 times greater than they didn't shut anything down back then 4 times greater now 25% 1.8 billion people back a hundred years ago and across the world so you can scale that up pretty pretty L'Oreal exactly and that was a killer that didn't just take people with comorbidities it took children it took healthy adults it was non-discriminatory disease and we took precautions people you know social distance to but at the end of the day they economy did not show humanity went on with their lives and this is not nearly the same type of pandemic that we had back then it's it's very interesting the time that we live in the reaction that we're having today to call David Jackson was individual responsibility to to do what was necessary to protect yourself and your family but other than that life went on and there was no governmental not nearly the same level of Gail I didn't even know they were Mouse we've been looking at it cuz we were looking a lot of photos from you because they did I mean people were scared they wanted to protect herself and her family may did what they thought was necessary it's just interesting how much different were reacting to this one to me and we are we are doing great great Harmon we don't see the harm that we're doing we don't see the small businesses failing the suicide rates going up to domestic violence the isolation the mental or emotional health problems people have by not being able to connect with each other not being able to physically touch the kids and then they're missing out in school and in person that I speaking as as a as a man who was once a little boy little boys need to they need to play they also need to connect to the needs that they need they can't just watch the screen kids and then I sat in in my daughter's room once and watch the teacher teach the class in Jesus Christ this lady could have not been less motivated it was horrible to watch motivating or motivated there their they're lazy that a year from now will be this will be in the rearview mirror shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

that's a subjective capitalism capitalism and Marxism and socialism this right now we're in a wave of this right it's more popular now I would say over the last particular during the Trump administration's than the concept of socialism at least it's become more more publicly discuss then any time that I can remember my life why do you think that is I think it's because the generation that's coming up his I mean understand the academic Community is is Iowa City intellectuals have always been the enemy of business enemy of an enemy of capitalism and but why is that I think because in a in a market society which has been rare in history we haven't mostly had Market societies but they're not very important in American society songs that Inspire the minds of the people that create an in maybe innovate in the industry don't have the same social status that the entrepreneurs have Elon Musk Steve Jobs or Jeff Bezos go on to college and then they go and get a PhD and then they they that's all I've known as school lets that's been their Universe right and they excelled at it and they were smarter than the other kids in school and now the other kids they they go to college and they get a degree in business and they're in a fraternity and they make a lot of friends and relationships and they and they make more money than the intellectuals do that seems like that's completely unfair and unjust world that the West people are making more money than the smart people do they have more status in the society and I think I think that's under under underlying it is a resentment and envy of a society that doesn't judge them to be as important as they judge themselves interesting perspective the term smart is a weird turn or ability to do things to connect with people emotional intelligence I'm merely saying they're good at taking tests writing papers abstracting thoughts essentially it's almost like you seem to be related but the people that are interested in that pursue that the fact that they can understand that Elon Musk has great example if you don't think Elon Musk is intelligent you're either did not you're in you're not very intelligent yourself you don't think LMS goes until you delusional or you're a liar or you're in denial is one of those things you something wrong with the way you think he's clearly intelligent but there's people that call him a fool and then like it's running like four different businesses simultaneously they're all successful innovating with when it comes to space travel and whether you'd assume that someone have to dedicate most of their life just singularly to that task then we'll figure out pass NASA how to shoot a rocket up into space and have it land and then reuse it no one's been able to do that besides him or up until he did it and I think Jeff Bezos companies doing the same thing yeah yeah they're obviously too businessday boys discriminated against the merchant classes that use in the west Chinese in the East there really been no historical. We're intellectuals praised business maybe a little bit around the time of Adam Smith up until probably Ricardo and Malthus Road in the early 19th century that that is is for the most part business people have been seeing their disruptive they change things they upset the status quo there in the end they innovate will lot of people don't like Innovations it's threatening and changes a change of social status it changes wealth relationships that it's almost like capitalism is like a genie that got out of the bottle and they're trying very hard to stuff the genie back in the bottle as much as they can I think if you think about it that way you'll understand we're never going to win the intellectuals over I mean I speak in universities all the time and the students I'm an entrepreneur I self-identify that way students love when I talk about conscious capitalism you can do good and you can do well there's no contradiction here you're not you're the good guys. Not the bad bait people about this number socialists and what it what is our primary argument their primary argument is that business is greedy and selfish and it's about motivations that they have people have the wrong motivations in a lot of ways conscious capitalism is an answer to that it's a complete answer to that because in the book and a conscious leadership as well basically arguing that business isn't primarily about maximizing profits business is primarily about creating value for other people and through creating value for other people you do make profit but it's the value creation that comes first the prophets come second and exchange right and it's almost if you are creating value than you are profitable and then you can reinvest those profits and you and you have this upward spiral so that's that business has potential for higher purpose primarily about greed greed is found in human nature show it's not just found in business people there plenty of greedy governmental officials when you're greedy politicians greedy lawyers greed is endemic to the human nature business people either have no more or no less than it's just part of who we are has anyone ever laid it out in a way that's very compelling like when you have these debates with socialist and someone has anyone ever laid it out in a way where they have a point we see their point what's the best way to do a debate is completely understand the other side's position understand it as good or better than they understand it and so I've read widely in socialistic literature I think I do understand it it's it's it's a type of utopianism it's a it's an attempt to change human nature if we would all be if we would all love each other and if we all share equally then the world would be a better place and I guess what it probably would be if if we were Nacho that way but we're not naturally that way we we look first generally for ourselves and our own families and then R&R growing circle of relationships that we develop we want we don't not natural to it's natural to want your own children to have advantages that's that's just human nature to want your children to flourish because you raise them you love them and somehow or another to say that's unfair is cutting against human nature people are always going to look for for damages or privileges so to speak for their children if people don't like when people have advantages and have and have victories because then someone has to lose when someone loses they equate that someone losing with a bad feeling with that person being victimized like a big idea we talked about and conscious leadership whatever chapter called find win-win-win Solutions the metaphors that we use to think about Society tend to be very binary Good vs Evil light versus Darkness win versus lose and so they tend to think of business is a win-lose game somebody wins and somebody else is losing the beauty of capitalism is it's a win-win-win game it's an infinite game it's a game because the customers are winning or they wouldn't trade the employees were winning how to customers when they're getting products and services at a competition to make those services and products better the employee winning because they have jobs and opportunities to Grow benefits are paid and they do that volunteer cleanup forced to work for any particular company they do it because they think it's in their best interest when for the employees the suppliers were trading with a business they're winning as well as they wouldn't make these changes investors are winning or they wouldn't make the Investments and the larger society is winning because business is the engine that creates all the money that goes into nonprofits and governments with how business there is no government Fresno and there is no a nonprofit sector because those are ultimately supplied through what business creates so business is a win-win-win game all of these takeovers are winning and that's why capitalism lifts Society up socialism is an attempt to reverse that back to a win-lose game and that's why it always fails and nuts Whitecaps game call are clamped down so they're not allowed to win it's like we're going to take your success and we're going to redistribute so that is again you said earlier on incentives matter but we're going to take away the incentives for business to really flourish and succeed when they should do it from altruistic reasons and we may do some things for altruistic reasons but you cannot build a society around it when you're talkin about win-win-win this is a very in many ways it's I see what you're saying but there are things that are negative that are associated with profit and Innovation and particularly expanding industry for particular environmental impacts like when you talked when you say win-win-win like there's there's very rarely when you're especially when you're dealing with creating and designing and building things you've got a negative impact in some way environmentally two points first of all the store socialism has been far worse worst polluter the capital of house so just look at the environmental destruction that the Soviet Union left behind it it was a complete disaster has socialism done wrong John we're going to do it right here has done it right joke no one's done it right but in a in socialism and they don't when the government has them play of all decision power making they don't tend to look out for the environment that's one of the myths you also take away agency from people and you take away their desire to improve and do better and without incentive people just don't perform the same way but the beautiful thing about business let's concede a partial truth to what you said that there will be unintended negative consequences you say environmentally well that's why you have to regulate this that's why you have to make people responsible for their environmental pollutants and because Bennett business innovates and has an incentive to innovate business can innovate and create solutions to those environmental problem can we stop for a second when you say make people responsible for their environmental pollutants then we're going to have to deal with another aspect of capitalism and that's the the fact the special interest groups and lobbyists have on politicians because they create pause that Shield is big businesses from consequences from these negative actions so by saying that they have to clean up their problem the only way that's ever going to happen is if they're not protected if they don't use that influence and money totally agree so this is where I think a lot of people have a valid argument against capitalism example ism is kind of f***** over our our our system of government in a way because money has gotten so deeply involved super Pacs and lobbyists and there's so much money involved that it changes the way we we govern things is that a flaw capitalism without a flaw government I think it's a flawed government but that government has been influenced by capitalism like capitalism's desire for Universal growth then constant growth the sad truth is that humanity is not perfectible we can never create the perfect any attempt to create the perfect system perfect saying to me that good capitalism is not perfect it does not because human choices and what people want varies people to capitalism will sell cigarettes to people because that's what people want gives him pleasure but it's bad for their health but they're they're giving people what they want it's the same thing in any type of externality that's not that's not deliberately done to harm the society it's sort of a bike favorite this is why win-win-win doesn't really work if not really win win win its win most of the time but with some negative consequences that are better than the alternative right but what you strive for is to it is to take those externalities are those negative consequences and try to through the government to to minimize him a lesson but when I went to LA back in the early 80s it was like going to New Delhi today I couldn't see my lungs hurt less than 24 hours for it's a good regulations that are in LA's a fraction is polluted is it was 40 years ago we've been able to clean it up that is an example of how you can take the worst impacts of industrialization and ameliorate than or less than them episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

you're the wild man living in the van now oh yeah that eccentric character you go from being a television and movie star to be in a wild man traveling the land with your Vagabond dog that you got from another country she's a rescue from the Bahamas normal thing I've done in my life but it is actually kind of crazy to it's it's crazy compared to people but I think it fits you like a glove I really do yeah yeah you know I like going out into the Wilderness I always have and I've been out in this van. I just got which is amazing and I'm going pretty hard with it like this the first time you've been tested since you got tested the last time I show wife asked me to come in or talk show and I haven't talked to her in 15 years proved so and so was that a trap it was nice really pretty wacky you know like I said she's getting really kind of allocate you put your hands up oh yeah she's definitely pushing it in a very short of the show it's very funny when she's doing very very over-the-top some of the things she doesn't that's representative hers of her as well it reminds me a lot of of of her why don't you just hurry for sure what she really is like do you like doing this van thing on the guy living down by the river in the van you make sense to me when you told me you were going to do that I'm going to travel across the country and just drive around the van with my dog was like. I could see you enjoying that it's a whole world man it's a whole world Bureau of Land Management land and there's certain apps that will show you all the fire roads all the remote places that you can go and do dispersed camping go boondocking the van have off-road capabilities can you drive on rugged Trail Ram as well I think it's around as well and he did the same thing you turned it into a bug out van for the rammers is wider than the Mercedes Sprinter van we should see a lot of sleep. But but randomly I saw this clip online of these guys in Arizona who convert the Vans I called him up there on Shark Tank kapoho this band called The Holy really cool dudes boho yeah and by the way I'm here right now there are your biggest fan they like literally every episode of your show and so they're going to take a s*** right now to call you can really happy that I'm mentioning them on the Shelf butt images of your van online something to say and yeah let's killer in there yeah yeah tell me got a little kitchenette how you cook it when I found out about these bands the thing that really kind of piqued my interest is the the battery and solar technology that exists now so there's two solar panels on the roof in the back I've got these batteries okay there really quick of battleborn batteries they're like really solid like they use them in sailboats to go around the world basically and there's four of them and the solar panels are charging and constantly so I've built computers cameras I've got micro 9 charging batteries all the time I've got a refrigerator in there so I can talk to him now cold beer right and and it's sweet so I can go out into the middle of nowhere and have virtually unlimited electronic capability and the stay there as long as I want till I run out of food after use your your engine you don't have to start up and you the ass exactly you run a diesel in your van I don't know but the way it went cuz. Van was available when I got that one but it said how is the gas mileage on stuff like that the sun's going down and then I end up going down a crazy Road and then the first night I got stuck in the Mojave Desert because I looked up on this app dispersed Fire Road and picking out that's pretty cool you know that I get there and there's no sign that says tortoises Crossing careful address truck driving out to the desert 200 shards of stuck cuz it's the soft sand gets stuck in the soft and so I've been more careful but but call AAA from the freeway it was he gotten into it yet boho guys and these guys what do they do they ask you what do you plan on doing it you plan on using this as a studio like your idea from the jump was to do your podcast on the road with no no plans other than your own whims you're so when when you do something like that how do you know what you're going to need you didn't really have any experience in like off-roading or that kind of not living out of a van you know what you're going to need like oh did you research yeah so well there's a couple of categories of research one was just building the studio itself so I built the studio at home first that's just do the nitty-gritty technical stuff you and what kind of microphones what kind of amps and preamps I'm going to use I have some apps that use tubes I got rid of those cuz I figured the tube that Route 11 the dirt road so boring techy stuff but but as far as the survival and the food and and all of that in the van they been real great like I built my studio equipment into a row case and I know I knew that I thought that could fit under the bed and then we were planted over there's a little door that opens and you can access it under the bed and we wired all the cables through the walls and it's pretty efficient so everything you need to do a podcast down into one box permanently housed under the bed so I just have a table that pulls out that table I was sitting out there but the Drone the cameras cameras and I'm kind of messing with that are exciting to me and so so I'm kind of out there the thing that I was thinking of thinking bored and lonely and I haven't because I've populated the van with stuff to do so when I get bored of the Drone then I'm not making music too so I made a it's a recording music studio to a kind of music while I'm doing some sort of different stuff I've got my acoustic guitar so I'm going to start doing some some country rap type of country rap maybe maybe as a singer may be incorporated into my stand-up or something like that on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

the space between the notes right that's what they talk about with jazz write the space between the notes you took over till it's the space between the jokes even it's a space between the ideas like stand-up is the thing that requires a lack of discipline sometimes is not just it's like and anytime you play a musical instrument you must be proficient also discipline to go over your notes discipline to look at all these ideas and try to structure them away is going to resonate with the audience you know and then also discipline like think about the set and what went wrong what went right and turn in to re-evaluate and the words and stand up in the idea where your fingers are on the piano that's that's the technical side and then the spaces between the words and the Rhythm timing with audience that's where yeah cuz I wouldn't say that I'm that good at it but I definitely love doing it and you can pull up pull up my video from 1992 of when I was a kid made a rap album and to me it was like I love this I love it was sort of like the technology like a love I love like I got a sampler I worked all summer is mowing lawns so I could buy a sampler used sampler and then I started sampling records listening to Gangstar and and so and 1991 Yellow Jacket skinny I am I one 18th of a megapixel camera film on a Steadicam killing it as a real estate agent up there and he's doing a great job he really is killing it like I mean it as soon as he's mr. big stuff he called himself after the incredible rapper actually too big stuff when selling houses should man and I feel like in a lot of ways like I like I learned a lot from him kids you know what we meant High School where we were skateboarders and he was out of skateboard P record so and he's got there there we are and the Greg on the right in the glasses barely you this is Bones on my hat that's cuz that's from Powell Peralta skateboards I just met but I was bones MC bones cuz I was skinny bones Rock on the microphone I'm like a king on the throne only thing is I stand alone and I'm saying Joe I do understand can you play the music we wrapped in it a pizza Commercial as a rapper does that kid really need glasses or was that a prop bike no no regular glasses prescription wouldn't you get a little uneasy they're trying to be like John Lennon or something or I don't know why I would get an easy episode from September 1st sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

how do you decide what you're going to ask people just going with the flow do you research on stuff cuz I I really love some of the questions you asked Kanye trying to remember what they were but I mean are you kind of just sort up cuz what would Kanye we had talked about doing a podcast for a long time but I was worried that he was going to come off the way he communicates his sort of manic style of thinking and constantly creating and doing things it's why he's so successful I mean that's the like stream-of-consciousness that he has is also why he's so prolific as an artist like I mean he is all of his albums are good is never done you know you go from one album to the next and they're all he's got this dream of creative ideas are constantly running through his head and he talked sometimes in these streams were they don't and he goes from one subject to the next subject and so I was curious as to like how I was going to talk to him and I wanted to make sure that we can do it in a way where other people are going to appreciate is a great value in the way he thinks and then if you get it in sound bites or you getting in some weird thing said something people get mad at him in the Boomer some italic you're missing who we really is who he really is him all day it's not him in this 32nd trunk we don't like what he said guess what he probably doesn't like what he said either okay he's f****** streaming he's been going he's running with these thoughts and ideas but that's also why he can boil those thoughts and ideas down these amazing f****** songs you know like this is that's what I wanted to get out of him while we're because what people are trying to medicate him and people trying to and I'm like I don't if you have a choice between is medicated overweight Kanye who doesn't get anything done or manic crazy Kanye says wild s*** you want man at crazy Kanye Amazing Music and I've been around him he's a nice guy man he's cool he's genuinely cool but whatever you want to call mental illness that's the problem is like when you call it mental illness what will you got to give it medicine he's got mental illness or going to give him medicine do you really because that mental illnesses making some pretty amazing s*** right like a catalog it's wild and it's all over the place but it's also very focused I found in that interview though that you know I've seen him interview quite a bit but I was that was one where everything you said made a lot of sense you certainly done a lot of put a lot of thought into a lot of the stuff he was talking about with everything from the organizing the way civilization I thought was really good about the interviews you do get a chance to see like this is not just a crazy person who buys his own b******* and by the way when he's like the bragi stuff that he kind of doesn't talk to himself first of all he's being honest about where he is he's 2-2 reaffirming who he is but also he jokes around like he was joking around about it out so he was showing us this video that he had made for his wife for his wife's birthday it was really emotional is very beautiful because he a hologram of her dad and he wrote the script for all this was telling her it's really intense I know you can do that now they can take your voice and for you and I would be easy for them to do they use me as an example for how well does deepfake technology works because there's 1500 f****** plus podcast Me 3 hours long so you take these these sounds that come out of my mouth and then you can make me say anything I'm literally anything cuz every noise and I'm capable of making I've made right so you use this catalog of sounds that my voice can make and that's what he also did without hologram young because Robert Kardashian there's all the cases and all the different times he's been interviewed on television is a great catalog of his voice and you can have him speak to her but even then like he has him say you know when your genius genius 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quick question before I go cuz this is coming up in the next time we meet I want to ask you about what you think the vaccine are you taking it I'll take it if it works if I feel that the doctors have all gotten their opinions behind it and I think you know what it is like an mRNA vaccine this new vaccine that makes your body think that it doesn't introduce actual Covent your system and you fight it off and makes your body think that it's covid-19 the proper proteins to fight it off yesterday Nicholas christakis Yale to prevent or hopefully prevent you from getting a bad case of it I don't know so would you would you would you need just the consensus of a body of doctors you trust and people's experiences cuz people already taken it until people taking it like what is the experience they say that they you know how to feel like s*** for few days that's it now is that true I mean who are they talk to them what's a few days and what do you mean by I feel like s*** like did you try running later and still feel terrible like so it apparently they're Distributing this vaccine owns now right I don't think it's totally ready but it's very soon we'll be ready and if it's effective they're going to encourage people to take it it's stencil of like you know it was at one time we didn't have a thought of a vaccine now we got competitors and shutdown people think different at listen if it works we should take it just but I know how people get real nervous like how do you feel about it so now you know for the first time we learn it we're learning how it drug the process of a drug you know going through trials with none of this little is a nation while watching this thing take place it's the good thing is if another one comes around there going to be more prepared to do something like this quicker right like I think people needed to really understand that in our lifetime something can kill the world economy and kill hundreds of thousands of people here in a million people worldwide of course we couldn't wrap my mind around it even if they told you even if you watch Bill Gates speech and Ted Talk in 2015 you would never internalize it and think there's there's a pandemic coming now I want to invest in the medical infrastructure to make sure that they prepare better next time this is hopefully people going to learn that that's all yeah why well The Debaters is largely philosophical right I mean it is sent this is two schools of thought once school started it's just going to be what it's going to be and will you got to keep moving like why closed anyting suppress the disease that we can build up the instruction and they gave us an early estimate of 2 weeks is how comedian does when it when it comedians doing real authentic before I go and then he does it for five times in real life get it yourself right when you mean like that the whole vibe of the desene write the Bible which seen the pandemic you said how do we get used to it what can we do about it and by saying that if you do it you can kill the people that's what changed the game and so everybody has to figure out how much of that they're willing to accept and how much of that are they not and not they're willing to take a shot take this this vaccine without you know knowing the long-term effects of it or worrying about the long-term effects of it some people are naturally averse to take any kind of medication they don't want to do it and other people like if you tell me it's good and all the doctors agree and it will help mankind I'll f****** do it that's how I feel if I listen polio okay she doesn't exist anymore smallpox doesn't exist anymore at least not in the numbers that used to be right all because he forgot because of vaccines like that I do the vaccines of done bad things only or that they're dangerous only is crazy like vaccines of the responsible for the vagina is level right now liar especially here it goes something really touching something really sore in the Corbin Americans identity like you said how can you tell me to do this is crazy with all the other people that got elected into a position of power that's all they did they want contest in there dictating the weather things go this way or that way and they don't necessarily have the right answer they just have their own answer and Dallas is doing a different that this town and you know Washington State's doing it different than Nevada everyone's doing a different gets real weird and I get it they're trying to keep the hospital numbers down but you you're told us it was going to be two weeks but you guys had two weeks and now here we are like nine months later and everyone's just waiting for only for a vaccine and what I'm not speaking about it was that was very difficult yeah that was very difficult but you can work 40 the last night we going to be in Milwaukee the last show of it was the last night between shows are institutional night and energy exchange it went from festive like to look worried when I got offstage sometime Hanks and had it the one NBA guy who would touch everything you had it and then the horse starts bringing that they're going to shut the country down I literally go that's impossible but this way I thought my initial reaction but the energy changed now I go out and do the second show and immediately at night and then they they scared the s*** out of me my behavior changed almost instantly interested I don't get too heavy I mean I'm only hanging out for the fights like one of the last fights for the shutdown and some dude goes I know you want to shake hands I got second hand I think this was the very beginning of March for the first time I would have been tested in any capacity was when I did just show that time that's the first time I had an antibody test or anyting I would have never expected to hear we would be deep into November and we're all still kind of lockdown when this started you lived in LA with no plans of coming here is that the in males it feels like we're rewriting a social contracts you know the whole thing and covid is an accelerant on this process that I could have never imagined you like when you're with I make great choices I like my choice you know when I was faced with you like that is like I had a much better than many people but imagine people doing that in mass is pretty powerful is pretty powerful what is this dude with Society this type of isolation and and almost forced reflection it feels NeverEnding it's not good but all these people lost their jobs it's not good that all these people going to lose where they live but might help some people recognize that if you just keep going in this Rat Race it just it never ends you got to figure out a way out and now is a better time to figure out a way out than ever because you kind of have to you kind of have to and society as it existed 10 months ago it's not the same place you should country country country so maybe somewhere in South Pacific is something that measures the success of the nation with what they called the gross national happiness just a totally different premise what countries index which is used to measure the collective happiness this is the method that they use to define their success if they tried that in America they turn into an app and it would f****** everything oh my God who just be striving to win the points on the app it would make people and saying that get addicted to trying to be a better person very wealthy who had what I consider poor quality of life just because look like you say the wealth is the point the chased it they chased it didn't have any friends right you're very welcome we love your dog your dog hangs out with you like f****** Scooby-Doo your kids like a kid like you you're living in adventure of a lifetime now you're doing the same thing you're doing a totally different city chance because you're following it gnawing feeling happy free episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's 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well that's a good move because people are tired of trump jokes you know it's one of those man I've been tired of them and then I'm like to come and look around for them to come to be frustrated to be frustrated with a dude is on his way out you know it don't make no sense is like he is still getting to you you know it's just a matter of time if you want to say the people the voice of the people's was heard it was a close situation but it is what it is and he's gone are you still mad people have some legitimate gripes and I understand where they're coming from but my perspective is its not changing anything and it's not doing you any good to still be holding on your if you are anti Trump Biden seat and let me know I don't think it's 99% official right and they just haven't said it yet and they when they say it then he will be become president and then Kamala Harris will be the new vice president so concentrate on good now it's over the people are so obsessed earlier look at Mike Pence them having a meeting with no mess man okay why you still keep getting mad cuz it's motherfuker have a mask on it's got to be something else to talk about something but this day did was talk about negative things that's the same some people get addicted to talk about negative things and they can't regroup even after a victory and now focus on positive things to want to continue to focus on negative things and I can see their purse what is to specially with all these crazy tweet like I won that election you know it's all fraud it's all this is all that like man if you got some real claims not know what the claims are I haven't really honestly investigated them but if you got some real claim you got to present the evidence and then once you present the evidence you say all the stuff like I got robbed I really want it if you want to be in a position where you're respected but if you're the president of the United States we're involved in some ridiculous like small neighborhood election and you were joking around on Twitter I want that f****** election that's that's that's to be expected when someone is in a position where they're in charge of the nuclear football please literally are the commander-in-chief of the greatest army the world ever known for motherfuking you're saying s*** like that and firing people that don't agree with you f****** terrorist attack right now one of the guys he fired what the guy said was he didn't believe there was widespread voter fraud it's like you're fired if you don't believe that you're fired this is like a madman part for me is like you trying to switch the thoughts of a person that is a huge trumpet is a waste of time we only going to be the only thing you have is frustrated here's the thing though I don't know and this is where it's really important I don't know exactly how the election went down in terms of like was there like 0.01% fraud with was there 0.5% that it's all done through these machines right and then there's been all these conspiracy theories about machines that were supposed to have been giving the votes to Trump gave those boats to Biden now I can repeat those things but I don't know if they're true but I don't but I do know you know I'm saying I do know is that I know the motherfuker those ones that we reach out to whatever those you can't is no machine that is Hand by hand is f****** problem. How does that work today to someone watch while they do it or do they have a supervisor I would imagine you would want to have like almost like two people watch or one person does it which is so ridiculous but it seems like you kind of if you don't stop your vehicle that's part of the argument was that they were certain count during allowed to observe that'll be really far away and they couldn't actually see the attitude incorrectly or the final evidence of that every time they don't even have either every time ended up dropping and dropping off cuz there's no evidence of it he's probably made he's he's had to have made every argument he can make no listen I agree with you agree with you there's no evidence that they can present that's going to show people right now that there was so much voter fraud that they got to return everything and start all over or they going to give it to Trump like I agree with you I think this is what all these experts are saying they're all saying that even if there was voter fraud it wasn't enough to tell Play One Way or Another but I don't know how these machines work so if I'm even commenting on it if I'm saying they couldn't have done it that's ridiculous I'm saying they must have done it that's just as ridiculous I really don't know that's like what you're talking about voting you're talkin about how many millions of people are voting and all this information is coming in and they got to sort it out you're going to have some mistakes there's no way around it but the question is does it over all balance out or other mistakes all for one side if you find out the mistakes are all for Biden then you're going to go really well who owns the company that makes the machines and then who were they finance and who programmed that and how are they program is it possible to f*** with the data it is possible can you show me how to do it you can do it you wish exactly what happened I know it I know the machines and Hand by hand them the results of them have to be official yeah well but I would imagine that when I was talking to a guy like Mike Baker and it was saying that even if there was fraud there's not enough raw to overturn Out imagine he knows some things I don't I'm a moron so with me talking about he what we all do that you know we talked about he one she wanted there's no way there was fraud or it was definitely fraud I think Trump won by a landslide like people get to get real connected to get real connected to who's who's winning or losing this election and I get it I like not going anywhere Man TV babe I miss him on TV this motherfukers TV Persona is you want to talk with sucks that it's invisible Persona is like he's a TV m*********** it sucks that it's even possible that someone could monkey with an election to the point where you can change the outcome it sucks that that's even a thought that we could get into our head that's what one of the crazy things about people were so nuts that was invented yes I'd like people that are good people will do some shady s*** to have their candidate win yeah for sure that's politics we're so crazy that's positive anything goes anything so what would bothers me and I do think that Biden won the election and I do think that I mean I think it's probably some Shenanigans but I think the result is most likely correct but it bothers me that there's even a question bothers me that anyone would ever think that anyone could but I think that there's Republicans think Democrats could do it and I can just Democrats think Republicans can do it and I think it's it's going to be real hard to 100% trust the election that's one of things it's kind of dangerous about someone going after it this election is rigged us elections rigged when Trump is doing that he's encouraging you know maybe that's a good thing if they are rigged because maybe they're going to be able to figure out how to stop that from in the future or maybe he's going to Road or maybe Center Road people's confidence in the elections in the more he does the Border roads in the markets dangerous there's a real argument for that too but listen again I don't know what the f*** I'm talking about episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st is available everywhere but only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video off go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

Fox News has taken a turn ladies and gentlemen and they are they seem to have made a conscious internal decision to not favor Donald Trump anymore I don't think Fox News was ever that behind Donald Trump I mean there's a few people at Fox News for hardcore behind Donald Trump but as an organization I mean remember they were very hostile to him in the Republican primary and he wasn't the Fox News guy Jeb Bush was the Fox News guy and he I think a lot of people were very happy or very happy to get rid let me see that article again I wonder what that means Hunter Biden Associates records don't show but what does that mean so they don't Hunter Biden Associates records don't show proof of Biden business relationship emit unanswered question that doesn't mean much do Biden that he couldn't prove Joe Biden was it's a very confusing title because he claims that he had met with Joby and Joe Biden was aware of all the dealings that that Hunter was doing that is Fox News has revealed email reviewed emails from that name by bielinski related to The Venture and they don't show that the Elder Biden had business dealings yeah but see I could that's that's weird like you know we can say that Jamie is my business associate right and if I'm involved in some shady s*** and Jamie doesn't know about it Jamie and I are emailing back and forth Linda Jamie's emails and they say x Joe Rogan's business associate doesn't show any association that guy cuz if it's not to that guy then this is not relative and then they're playing games with words like I would have to read what exactly they're saying what exactly he said are the problems I've looked a couple times I've got some sort of just looking again we're normally this s*** gets leaked no like when all those celebrities got their f****** iCloud leaked all those pictures of Hit the internet instantly and you can find them all over the place these emails are have like barely been seen by I feel like anybody will be his emails word find the point of this article when ski guy claimed was that Joe Biden himself was very involved in all the business deals that are that Hunter and him were doing and that his email couldn't prove that cuz they know the thing was they said they had these references to like the big guy and stuff like that but they couldn't prove that that that Joe Biden knew about this but he is claiming whether this is true or not he is claiming that he's met Joe Biden several times and they talked about it and Joe Biden was well aware of what Hunter Biden was doing and where he was making his money from again that aspect of it the bigger thing is like that this goes on all over the place all over the place like the conflict-of-interest the corruption we see where Obama was spoke after is President we got like $400,000 or something like that for a speech in front of bankers phone bill when they get out of the office than they do the speeches which is kind of hilarious Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton I believe the ballpark numbers they left the White House they were like net worth was around four million dollars and then it was like well over a hundred million dollars by 2016 so they made a lot of money and arms deal Trump Administration little Sandy's make a bunch of deals now on his way out a plan to sell 50 Advanced F-35 fighters to the United Arab Emirates is a part of a broader arms deal worth more than 23 blank out they can do so much voter fraud where they could overturn it it's incredibly difficult and it's not just that he would have to do that he'd have to do that in a few different states and so it's an incredibly difficult task but it's pretty interesting this is unlike anything I've ever seen before where you have won presidential saying like know this was b******* and I'm going to fight it legally and another thing that I thought was really weird from the Press is that they so there I saw it twice now was on MSNBC ncnn where she was giving a press conference Talent saying how the votes were stolen from him and the system was unfair and they cut away they said we will not show this because he's lying and then just the other day on Fox News Neil Cavuto cut away from Trump's press secretary saying there was voter fraud and he goes well you know we can't verify that so we can tear this on a look man whatever you want to say this is a story then debunk it afterward but what is this thing where you go no we won't show people you can't see this story because the lies could poison you or something I want if it's proven to be true what are there is voter fraud while there is it's a question of how widespread it is cuz there's always voter fraud which is another secret that they don't f****** like to tell that there's always f****** some degree of voter fraud that everybody insisted it's impossible to vote like the safely and accurately online yes I thought that odd I also find it really really odd that we overhauled the way we do voting in this country and that now it's almost an entirely different process where both candidates are getting way more votes than they would normally get and it's just very weird through a lot of things that were weird about this election like the actual Logistics of it online Apple pay or compare something like that and go buy something you know you use your fingerprint and it registers your fingerprint and then you could you could buy a house after I mean if you I mean the how much can you spend an apple pie does it have a limit for everyone not everybody has that access and that morning they were not confident that everything got downloaded today to scrap the whole thing on back to paper like that day so it's just that also a problem with these weird deadlines like we have to choose a leader in the Free World in 20 hours ready to go like it's a big important thing 10000 votes in Wisconsin is going to determine which half of the country is furious and which half is like a lated because they get to rule over the other half now and then hopefully in four years they can be happy and you're miserable cuz they get to rule over you now it's so bizarre democracy in general is a very bizarre process to have it in a country this big with this powerful of a government it makes it insane like that we're going to determine the course of history based off what a few votes in states determine there's got to be a better way I was reading this thing about Plato Socrates Socrates was he was talking about how he didn't like the idea of democracy because Socrates felt like in order to make really important choices you should have almost have to prove your understanding of these issues and at this if it wasn't the case pretty sure it was Socrates because he he saw the the prophet like what we basically have like there's a lot of people that were on the ballot in California is like what is this guy doing what does he want I didn't know much about them does that sound right I'm looking at this thing for an hour an hour to go in and I can Google some of these these bills and and that's just me how many people didn't I mean I just gave a very cursory of these ideas how many people didn't at all this winning blue wall across the border red or across-the-board oh yeah episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

who is the who is the unbiased journalist who's the one that we transfer information used to be the New York Times the New York Times to be like brutally honest about basically everything and now you read something in the New York Times like we did when I was in New York Times so yeah like that's a weird shift that's happened in the last 10 years as well yeah I mean it's definitely been exposed in the last 10 years but I think that truthfully I I think it's kind of a silver lining that at least people are starting to be aware of that and people are starting to go like okay I know that these institutions are not to be trusted because truthfully speaking they got you know it's like I was saying you before we started where it's like four for all the s*** that people give Alex Jones she got all of the biggest stories right over the last 20 years should we go to war in Iraq and the New York Times was selling all of these I mean they saw Warren Iraq and so it's to me it's not the worst thing in the world of people at least recognize that these institutions are completely compromised and I agree with you that there is a role for objective journalism but I would at least accept if they were like Hey listen we think like what you just said we think we have this platform and we need to use this to get Donald Trump Not Elected at least be honest with it don't b******* me and tell me we're just doing objective news and every single story is about how Donald cuz you know needs they don't say they're doing objective news anymore they just do their thing while they call other news fake news so those a corporate press and Jen example but then usually they also go to other things like look this this this New York Post story about Hunter Biden laptop was called fake news from the day it came out to the point that not only would all of the corporate press not report on it but that social media companies were Banning the link in Twitter froze the New York Post Twitter account on Twitter called it Russian disinformation yes there's a bunch of people called it Russian disinformation the photo of the girl giving him a footjob yes was that wasn't that was all she was rushing and the foot was rushing it was a Russian for job what happened to that I kind of lost track of what was happening with the laptop but they'd like have that they shared information of a laptop any reasonable standard for for a journalist to verify something I mean number one the bidens didn't deny it like nobody actually came out and denied that this was it had his signature at the repair shop which they matched up to his signature event other people on the email chains confirm that they were these were emails between them and Hunter Biden so it's been pretty reasonably kind of verify that this was Hunter Biden now I don't know about the crazier accusations that were made there I mean Rudy Giuliani said that there were pictures underage girls and stuff like that I don't know if that's true or not but Rudy Giuliani did turn it over to the Delaware police that is true because the Delaware a spokesman for the Attorney General said that they received the laptop in that they sent it to the FBI now I don't know why they would he would turn this over claiming the stuff was on there and then they would send this to the FBI if there wasn't something but I don't know I don't know but what you do know right is that this was a story where they had these emails about Hunter Biden who is very clearly asked creature who was selling his father's name to rake in money from foreign companies that truth be told that the kind of run-of-the-mill Scandal as far as politics while it's normal kid family white they all do stuff like this all the time it's a corrupt swamp you know what is a story none-the-less it may not be but to just make the conscious decision that we are a few weeks out from presidential election this can harm Biden and therefore we're not we're not covering it we're not trying to debunk this to a bunch of people we are trying to make sure people never get their eyes on this they felt the heat from 2016 from the Hillary Clinton email debate you know whether not you should have believed those emails and that the fact that call me then opens up the investigation again in the middle of the campaign and that was basically a lot even though she won the popular vote a lot of people felt like that was that was a bad move again so this year they say we're going to do everything we can to get rid of Donald Trump again instead of just journalists what happened I mean they felt in a way that they were responsible for Donald Trump winning x Hunter Biden Associates records don't show proof of Biden business relationship amid unanswered questions episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be 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one of the things that Jack Dorsey has been pretty adamant about is that the really never saw this coming when they started Twitter and they didn't think that they were ever going to be in this position where they were going to be really the Arbiters of free speech for the world right which is essentially in some ways what they are I think it's important to roll back the clocks we should really reverse engineer for the audience how did these products work the way that they did so it's like Twitter I think his first tweet with something like checking out the buffalos in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco You Know Jack was fascinated by the taxi cab dispatch system that you could send a message and then all the taxis get it and the ideas could be created dispatch system so that I post a tweet and then suddenly all the other people can see it and the the Real Genius of these things was that they weren't just offering this thing you could do they found ways of keeping people engaged I think this is important for people to get that they're not competing for your data or for your money they're competing to keep people using the product and so when Twitter for example invented this persuasive feature of the number of followers that you have remember like that was a new thing at the time that you log in and you see your profile you're the people who you can follow and then followers you have that created reason for you to come back every day to see how many followers do I have so that was part of this race to keep people engaged as we talked about in the film like these things are competing for your attention that if you're not paying for the product you are the product but the thing that is the product is your predictable Behavior you're using the product in predictable ways and I remember a conversation I had with them someone at Facebook who's a friend of mine who said in a coffee shop people think that we Facebook are competing with something like Twitter but one social network is competing with another social network but really he said our biggest competitor is YouTube because they're not competing for social networks are competing for attention and YouTube is the biggest competitor in the digital space for attention and that was a real light bulb moment for me because you realize it as they're designing these products they're finding new cut a way to get your attention that's the real thing that the thing is different in the Sun rather than talking about no censorship and data and privacy in these themes it's really what is the core influence or impact that the shape of these products have on how we're making meeting of the world when they're cheering or psychology the way people use these things to gather more attention and do you think that any of this could have been avoided if there was laws against that if instead of having these algorithm that specifically Target things that you're interested in or things that you click on or things that are going to make you engage more if they just allow these things to see if someone said listen you can have these things you can allow people to communicate with each other B can't manipulate their attention span can you vote for someone you've never paid attention to never heard about never heard them say something rayjus know so there's always been an attention economy and so it's hard to say we should regulate who get detention or however it's organic I just put it out there and if you watch it you don't or you don't I don't you know I don't have any say over it and I'm not manipulating it in any way sort of so I mean let's imagine that the podcast apps were different and they actually you're watching they had like the hearts in the stars in the kind of voting up and numbers and you could like send messages back and forth in apple podcast worked in a way that didn't just reward you know the things that you clicked follow on it actually sort of promoted the stuff that someone had the most outrageous thing then you at the podcast creator of the Apple podcast Spotify play neutral and forgot that story back in time with her competing for attention let's look at some other things that they did so they also added this retweet this instantly sharing feature right and not made it more addictive suddenly we're all playing the same Lottery right like I can retweet your stuff when you get a bunch of hits and then you could go viral then you could get a lot of attention so then instead of the companies competing for attention now each of us suddenly win the same Lottery over and over again and work we're getting attention and then I forgot it was that Apple has an interesting way of handling the sort of the way they have their algorithm for their podcast app is it secret it's kind of it's weird but one thing's that it favors is it favors new shows and it favors engagement and new subscribers so comments engagement and new shows they don't like you. The same as competing for attention cuz engagement and must mean people like it and that's going to be a fallacy if we go down that road but going because you could say if you have a podcast and your podcast gets like it's a hundred thousand downloads a new podcast can come along and it can get 10,000 downloads and it'll be ahead of you in the rankings and so you could be number three and it could be number two and you'll like what was that number too and it's 10 times less but they don't do it that way and their logic is they don't want the podcast world to be dominated by you know New York Times and whatever whatever is number one and number two and number three forever we actually just experienced this we have a podcast came out in that first month we went from being you know in the lower 100 or something like that to each shot to the top five in the number one Tech podcast for a while until we just experienced this through the fact not that we had the most listeners but because the trend was to I bet that we should have jumped to the top I think it's wise that they do that because eventually it evens out overtime in a you see some people rock at the top like oh my God we're number 3 hang on there fella just give it a couple of weeks and then three weeks later 4 Weeks Later another number 48 in right they get depressed right though that was really where you should have been but the thing that Apple does that I really like in that is it gives an opportunity for these new shows to be seen it was there where they might have gotten just stuck cuz these these rankings in the ratings for a lot of these shows the shows are so consistent and they have such a following already very difficult for these new shows to gather attention right and the problem was that there were some people that game the system and there's companies that could literally like Earl skakel member or became the number one podcast and like no one was listening to it or has money he hired some people to game the system and he was kind of like open about it and and laughing about now is any banned from iTunes now or something I think you got banned because of that because it was so obvious he game the system and like a thousand downloads news number one thing is it were Apple podcast you can think of is like the Federal Reserve at the government of the attention economy because they're setting the rules by which you win who has the most listeners and then you just keep rewarding the kings that already exists versus who hit the most trending there's actually a story a friend of mine told me I don't I don't know if it's true all those are fairly credible Source Who said he was a meeting with Steve Jobs when they were making the first podcast app and that they had made a demo of something where you could see all the things your friends were listening to so just like making a Newsfeed like we do with Facebook and Twitter right and then he said was would we do that if something is important enough your friend will actually just send you a link and say you should listen to this like why would we automatically just promote random things that your friends are listening to and again this is kind of how you get back to social media how was social media so successful because it's so much more addictive business models Addiction in this race to the bottom of the brainstem for attention on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

artificial intelligence is something that people are terrified of as an existential threat they think of it as one day you're going to turn something on and it's going to be sentient is going to be able to create other forms of artificial intelligence that are exponentially more powerful than the one that we created and that we'll have Unleashed this Beast that we cannot control what my concern is with all this. drowning it's like a slow or okay I'm on my way up to my knees that's fine just my waist-high I can barely walk around exactly exactly it seems like this is like humans have to fight back to reclaim our economy in Free Will from The Machine knocks it over it's just that this and so it's like she's the AI who sees so many moves ahead in the chessboard she can say something which will cause him to do the thing that verifies the thing that she predicted what happened that's what he's doing now except it's pointed at our nervous system and figuring out the perfect thing to dangle in front of our dopamine system and get the thing to happen which instead of knocking off the bases to be outraged at the other political side and be fully certain that you're right even though it's just a machine of calculating s*** that's going to make you you know do the thing about this how much time do you spend thinking about simulation Theory the stimulation the idea that if not currently one day there will be a simulation it's indiscernible from regular reality and it seems we're on that path I know if you mess around with VR at all but we'll get to the point about you the virtual chatbots outcompeting clickbait economy outrage machine that's already a virtual pilot political environment that then translates into real-world action then becomes real and other weird feedback go back to 1990 whatever it was when the internet became mainstream or at least started becoming mainstream and then the small amount of time that it took the 20 plus years to get to where we are now and then think what what about the virtual world and once this becomes something that's has the same so growth that the internet has experienced or the we've experienced through the internet we're looking at like 20 years from now being unrecognizable we're looking at it almost seems like that is what life does the same way bees create beehives you know caterpillar doesn't know what the f*** is going on when he gets in that cocoon but it's becoming a butterfly we seem to be a thing that creates newer and better objects Craig more effective we have to realize they is not conscious and won't be conscious the way we are at so many people think that it is consciousness essential I think so to us it's essential to us as we know it like his life as we know it but but My worry is that we're in essential that would like we were thinking now like single-celled organisms being like and I want to hang up with a bunch of other people become an object that can walk I like being a single cell organism is a lot of fun yeah the next version of maximizing for things that were programmed in by our little miniature brains anyway but they don't cry. Suicide and then Consciousness and life dies I'm a monkey you know the monkeys are time staying in the Stream and you guys are out of your f****** mind I mean this is the weird Paradox of being human is that again we have these lower-level emotions we care about social approval at the same time like I said that we would have the self-awareness to even know that was happening to our interview we can conceptualize that this has happened to us external object which has like Ai and supercomputers and voodoo doll versions of each of us and it has perfectly figured out how to predictably move each of us in this Matrix let me propose to you we are what we are now human beings Homo sapiens in 2020 we are this thing that if you believe in evolution and pretty sure you do we've evolved over the course of millions of years to become who we are right now should we stop right here are we done no right we should keep evolving what is that look like what does it look like if we go ahead and just forget about social media what would you like us to be in a thousand years or a hundred thousand years or 500,000 she certainly wouldn't want us to be what we are right now right no one would have Star Trek play somehow make peace with these other in a alien Trisomy figure out you know space travel and in all that I mean actually a good heuristic that I think people can ask his own enlightened planet where we didn't figure this out what would that it looked like isn't it always weird that those movies it's people are just people but they're in some weird future but they have really change that much right there are such things as more wise Society more sustainable Society more peaceful are harmonious Society to my jeans and ultimately biologically but our version of it like the best version that's probably the gray aliens right I mean we're going to get into Gene editing and becoming more perfect at perfect and we are going to start operating Rising 4 what are the outcomes that we value I think the question is how do we actually come up brand new values that are wiser than we've ever thought of before that actually are able to transcend the win-lose games that lead to Omni lose-lose that everyone loses if we keep playing when those game at greater greater skills you have a vested interest in the biological existence of human beings I think people will I love being around them we are we're we're Model T no sense in making those f****** things anymore the brakes are terrible they smell like s*** when you drive them they don't go very fast we need a better version you know the funny thing is I think like I wish I could remember it's something about how much would be solved if we were at peace with ourselves like if we were able to just be okay with nothing like it being okay with living and breathing how much are light is it running away from you know anxiety and discomfort in a version on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

the thing we have to hone in on is the asymmetry of power and either stay in the film it's like we're bringing this ancient brain Hardware the prefrontal cortex which is like what you used to do goal-directed action self-control willpower holding back and marshmallow test don't do V don't get the marshmallow now wait later for the two marshmallows later all of that is through our prefrontal cortex and when you're sitting there and you think okay I'm going to go watch I mean look at this one and thing on Facebook because my friend invited Advance or it's this one post I have to look at and the next thing you know you'll find yourself scrolling to the thing for like an hour and you say Amen that was on me I should have had more self-control but they're behind the screen and glass slab is like a supercomputer pointed at your brain that is predicting the perfect thing to show you next and you can feel it like it's this is really important to like if I'm Facebook when you flick your finger you think using Facebook is going to show me the next thing to my friends but it's not doing that it when you put your finger it actually literally wakes up to sort of supercomputer Avatar food Oliver and Joe and the voodoo doll of Joe is the more clicks you ever made on Facebook is like adding a little hair to the voodoo doll and the more likes you've ever made add little clothing to the voodoo doll and the more you know watch time on videos you've ever had the character you know as he's using this thing it building more and more accurate model the ai's the 3-day eyes behind the screen or kind of manipulating and the idea is that post from your friends or this other thing and it'll figure out the right thing to show you that it knows we'll keep you there because it's already seen how that same video that same post has kept 200 million other voodoo doll there cuz you just look like another example I'm on all the platforms if you are where teen girl and you open to dieting video on YouTube 70% of YouTube watch time comes from the recommendations on the right hand side right so the things that are showing recommended videos next and it will show you it shows what what did it show that the the girls who bought the team died in video it showed anorexia videos because those were better at keeping the teen girls attention not because it said these are good for them these are for them it just said these tend to work at keeping their attention so again this time to work if you are already watching diet video hey I got like a hundred million other voodoo dolls of 13 controls right and they all tend to watch the other videos on YouTube when you let the machine blind all it's doing is picking stuff that's engaging why did they choose to not let the machine run blind with one thing like anorexia so now we're getting into the Twitter censorship come first in the moderation conversation so I don't focus on censorship in moderation because the real issue is if you blur your eyes and zoom way out and say how did the whole machine to operate like no matter what I start with what is it going to recommend next so you know if you started with you know a World War II video YouTube would recommend a bunch of Holocaust denial videos right if you started teen girls with a dieting video it would recommend has anorexia videos in Facebook's case if you joined the examples here because Facebook recommends groups to people for you so if you were a new mom you ever need a rest of my friends house podcast we've got to work together and she has great example of has a new mom she Join one Facebook group affirm others who do do it yourself baby food like organic baby food and then Facebook has a sidebar says here's some other groups you might recommend you might want to join and what do you think was the most engaging of those cuz Facebook again is picking on which group if I got you to join it would cause you to spend the most time here right so Force some do-it-yourself baby food groups which group do you think how does the same run the process again so then so now I look at Facebook so it's okay I got it all in there all day just join this anti-vaccine mom's group and then what do they tend to engage with for very long time if I get them to join these other chemtrails YouTube recommended flat-earth conspiracy theories hundreds of millions of times and so when you when you're a parent during covid-19 annoyed or something and large community by the way of people making noise about this and they'll say okay shoot your right flattered if we got to deal with that and so they'll still tweet the outer them and then people making much noise about the thinspiration videos for anorexia for kids and then we'll deal with that problem but then they start doing it based reactively but again if you zoom out it's just still recommending stuff that's kind of from the Crazy Town section of that people have ridiculous ideas about Hollow Earth cuz I think it's humorous but I'm also a 53-year old man right right I'm not I'm not a 12 year old boy with a limited education that is like oh my God the government's lying to us there's lizard people that live on the Earth right but if that's the real argument about these conspiracy theory or the easily impressionable or or people that maybe don't have a sophisticated sense of vetting out b******* right the algorithms aren't making a distinction between who is just laughing at it and who's deeply vulnerable to it and generally it's on the highway and and now there's Facebook and Google trying to figure out like what should I give you based on what temp to keep your attention if you look at a car crash and everybody. In the highway look at the car crash according to Facebook and Google's like the whole world wants car crash Caswell in the film says who's the YouTube whistleblower out for the teacher recommendation system is they find the perfect little rabbit hole for you that knows we'll keep you there for 5 hours and the conspiracy theory like dark corners of YouTube were the the dark corner that tends to keep people there for 5 hours and so you have to realize that we're now something like 10 years in to this vast psychology experiment where it's been in every language in steering people go on YouTube and there's on one side you have like the calm Walter Cronkite Carl Sagan you know slow you know kind of boring but like educational material or something and the other side of the spectrum you have you know the craziest stuff you can find Crazy Town no matter where you start you could start in Walter Cronkite or you could start in crazy town but if I'm YouTube and I want you to watch more am I going to steal you Ward's account stuff online after you more towards create account agrees right and then you just step back and you let Society run its course as Jaron Lanier says in the film that you just tilt Society by 1° 2° that's the whole world. That's what everyone believing if you look at the degree to which people are deep into Rabbit Hole conspiracy thinking right now and I acknowledge operation Mockingbird with like there's a lot of real stuff right and I'm not categorically asking what is the basis upon which were believing the things we are about the world and increasingly that's that's based on technology and we can get into you know what's going on in Portland with the only way I know that I'm looking at my social media feed and according to that it looks like the entire but if you I called a friend there the other day and he said it's a beautiful day there anywhere near where I am at to 52 blocks is warping our view of reality and and I think that's what really for me to Sociable in this was really trying to accomplish as a film and I am the director Jeff Orlowski was trying to accomplish his is how did the society get go crazy everywhere all at once you know if anyone you know they was supposed to happen by accident happened by design of this business model it didn't have that recommended section when was that question I mean you know the original YouTube is just post a video and you can get people do you know around they needed to figure out what was the competition for attention got more intense than you did it to figure out how am I going to keep you there and so recommending those videos on the right hand side I thought there pretty early I remember actually because I was certain The Innovation is like Evil Within this YouTube Wormhole and once people were in the you too warm haul constantly seeing videos that was what they could they could get off of the promise to a new video uploader hey if you post it here you're going to get way more views than if you post it on Vimeo right and that's that's the thing talk right now on my phone he can't even sit around if she standing still for five minutes she just starts out as well as increasing the amount of time you spend on the platform overall YouTube YouTube could assure Advertiser said it was providing invaluable experience for people so. That's beginning of the end yet so 2012 and YouTube timeline I mean you know the Twitter and Facebook world introduces the retweet Andre share buttons in the 2009-2010 kind of time. So you end up with this world where the things that were most paying attention to our based on algorithms choosing for us and so it's deeper arguments in the film that I'm not sure everyone picks up on his these technology systems have taken control of human Choice the technical of humanity because they're controlling the information that all of us are getting out every election like I think Facebook is kind of a voting machine but it's a voting machine because they control the information for four years at your entire societies getting radio and television before that but actually radio and TV are often getting their new stories from Twitter and Twitter is right is recommending Things based on the Opera them's so when you control the information that an entire population is getting your controlling their choices I mean literally military Theory I want to screw up your military I want to control the information that it's getting on a confuse the enemy and that information funnel is the very thing that's been corrupted and it's like the Flint water supply for mine sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

by the way when they are presidential debate where the moderators are typically less-than-ideal in terms of their expressed bias and that's why I was very excited I think I've even shared when when when the rumor was coming out that you know you'd be willing to moderate a debate between Biden and Trump I thought God damn that's a great idea he was all in what he contacted people that contacted me to do it but I never reached out to the Biden people I felt like if they wanted to do it they would reach out to me and if they did I would have done it but I just don't think that's a good form for him mean as we've seen the debates themselves specifically the last debate was not good for him but would have what I would have done is like when he was saying that I've never said I was going to ban fracking Jamie would have just pulled up vid of him saying I'm going to ban fracking and that would have been horrible for him it would been much better in terms of getting some clarity on what is actually said and what is actually done and you know and then the other things about saying that his son never received any money from Russia and that that's that's a that's a lie it's been disproven hasn't been disproven he knows it hasn't been disproven but he knows that he can say that on the air and no one's going to call him on I would have stopped the moderation I would have stopped this thing where I go sir we're going to pull up these articles and I are you to tell me what about these articles is in factual like what is what's a lie and are you sure that's would you be willing to say this in court which would would you be willing to risk perjury would you say this in front of a judge if you cuz you could be in real trouble if you did that but you just lie in a debate in the moderators don't check you no one says anything about it no one Google's it but can't they just pull up the story pull up a video but someone could have done that and it would have been much better for the American public to just stop everybody in their tracks and also like why do they have two minutes to answer that that's so Antiquated this is so ridiculous the idea that you're talking about something that literally can affect the Free World the decision of who gets control of the United States of America who what party is in control and that you're going to put some arbitrary 2 minute time limit on these discussions is crazy it's it's so ridiculous and also the format is confined by these time blocks that they have this 90-minute time but it should have a 90-minute Time block you should started it like agreed-upon time 60 Minutes 6 p.m. or whatever whatever you want to do and then work it out like Abraham Lincoln and some of the speeches that he gave when he was running for president day hours and hours long Town Square and it discussing these ideas that he had and they would last forever and that's how you find out what a person thinks and believes you have to end but now with the tools that we have available the fact that they don't use those tools during the presidential debate fact check Trump when he lies about something pull it up show show that he's not telling the truth show Woody actually said chody actually did as opposed to what he said he's doing call him out on it, but you know even those tools are available mainstream media would have to give away control they will give away control of their ability to navigate and steer this narrative write the narrative that they're trying to steer but you know the bias that they're trying to exert on on our election process is really offensive to people it should be offensive that they have the ability to Google weather not Joe Biden really did say he would never Banff and they didn't why would you not pull up a video that's readily available online and say server going to pause here for a moment we're going to play this video and tell me what you meant when you said you were going to ban fracking tell me what you meant when you said you were going to break the green New Deal tell me what you said when you when you said that you were going to do whatever the whatever the f*** you lied about and pull it up for me what amazes me about when he says things like that although I'd I can't remember quite the same types of Life Trump usually lies about you know my penis is the biggest the women have told me I'm the greatest lover ever look at the number of people that he's it's it's it's it's bombastic boasting like in the 1940s where he doesn't know that there is this thing called Google and computers where we can quickly have Jamie fat check you write because what which which is difficult to to to know if he's telling the truth or not because again it happened in the 60s or 70s or whatever he could say something thinking that it can't be falsified because how else could you logically explained that he would engage in such lies right. Like how is the Democratic party not saying hey this is a mistake like the whole idea that there's a deadline to this process and I'll have to be done a certain amount of time and this is how we have to do it as a boy it's so weird it's so weird about such an important decision and episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available every shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

you going to use them I'll definitely use them I like candles those are good too in their loyalty to their story you had their hand poured in the UN have them back I'm in the boy it's a candle man don't disrespect a political fruit or vegetable it's an insult I never knew that soy is one of the rare Foods it's actually attached to being a b**** that's a p**** food yeah like if you're if you're a guy is really in the soy and this is not my perspective this is just I just think it's a f****** it's a plant doesn't matter to me it's like when you have edamame at a Japanese restaurant yeah I was so ghetto and I was like I was like my throat was killing me outside I didn't know anything about the goddamn salt and everything in the vegetable types of beans there green a different color from regular soybeans which are typically light brown tan or beige yeah so it's a soy edamame I don't mind soy but a lot of people think of soy as being like a b**** food I've never knew that you step your game up King the effects of natural estrogen yeah but I think you have titties office or not quite but in my feminized you develop testosterone like plants yeah from wild wild yams yeah that's how they that's how they develop some artificial testosterone or exoticness testosterone MC Allison blue pill Arabella different thing. That's just blood flow that's nitrous oxide so why is nobody promoting wildlands oxide nitrous what it what is it what is it Nitric nitric oxide that's like a no xplode all those pump things you do when you want to get jacked lifting weights while those those supplements they mimic the same sort of effect is not the same degree as like finasteride like Viagra dialysis s*** like that but they don't they don't make you have more testosterone with these like soybeans and I think really afford to affect your hormones I think it's just like it can it's a fat it's a possibility like chemically but in order to actually do it I think you'd have to eat some f****** Preposterous number of soybeans I don't think it's like something people really have to worry about it now I don't have to worry about but I think it's just a stereotype boys I didn't know that I thought it was like a like you you're evolving as a foodie you know like the first time I had I was like oh s*** y'all n***** don't know about the other mommies cuz I was introducing somebody else to it but I didn't know that it's symbolized being a p**** it's silly silly go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

Donald Trump is 74 he's overweight needs cheeseburgers everyday when a guy like that catches cold in s fine in 4 days people get very dismissive of it on for job right what did he receive what kind of treatment did he received and how different is it than what the average person would receive if they got sick so she he faced a very significant risk of death and I got lucky so his doctors put him on dexamethasone so so far we only have one proven drug that lowers your risk of death if you're seriously ill from covid-19 very simple steroid called dexamethasone and severe has not been shown to lower mortality it has been shown to lower your length of Hospital stay so there's some benefit to it but it doesn't appear to lower your risk of death why would they let you out of the hospital if you hadn't shown significant Health improvements and wouldn't and health improvements when significant Health improvements signify that your body is recovering better another trial came out much bigger trial as part of the think it was called the solidarity Consortium either their solidarity or the recovery I can't remember right now Consortium out of England would show that actually had no benefit for mortality and they only wind up spending an average of 10 days in the hospital but 10 of the people died and in the other study the people that did not get rammed us if you are a hundred people get sick and they spend an average of 12 Days in the hospital but again 10 of them die so the rodessa BR has lowered the hospital duration from 12 to 10 days but it hasn't affected the probability of people dying that's entirely possible so they said that was in England yes it was a large is organized by a group of English scientist either the solidarity or the recovery Consortium and I just don't remember right now though the name of it but but I want to go back to your question about the president so the president was given dexamethasone and when that happened I stated publicly that either the president was sicker than they were telling us so he was sufficiently stick that they wanted to give him dexamethasone because giving dexamethasone early in the course of the disease for your very sick actually can harm you so you don't want to give it to someone at the beginning of their to you need to wait until they're specially sick and then it helps you so either he was sicker than they told us and so they were lying to us or he was really needed a dexamethasone and which case he faces significant risk of death so people in the trials that show that the dexamethasone work 74 year old overweight people men and men are much greater risk of dying women of this condition who got their dexamethasone they had about a 20% chance of death so I think the president actually faced a 20% chance of death when he was at the hospital which is a big risk of death and I think he survived artificial antibodies to the disease which I think is another promising approach to treating this condition we don't yet have the results of those randomized controlled trials but will also know soon if those drugs no help so this was an experimental treatment that they gave him yes they gave him not the dexamethasone that was a well-documented treatment right but the anybody antibody cocktail was apparently the CEO of the company of regeneron was his golfing buddy or something I'm not exactly sure so whatever it was it seemed to be very effective and and then immediately that he went on a wild tweetstorm it seemed like you had a lot of energy will the dexamethasone may have given PST right hi I wouldn't conclude that the antibody cocktail was necessarily affected we do know I didn't I didn't mean that I meant oh yeah treatment the overall treat whatever they gave him when he was in the hospital the response was for 74 year old guy to be back on the campaign trail with this rigorous campaign that he was doing for five days later pretty damn impressive yes I did not expect that at all and I think you got lucky and I think you know steroids can give you to make a little psychotic and a little manic actually and I and I think I mean you can't really know from a distance but to me he had the doctor looking at him I thought this man has a little bit of a Man of Steel to him but then maybe he was always that way but if you look at if you look at some of the things he did like I think the little having the Secret Service driving around the hospital was a bit you know was a bit manic you know that was like a very responsible thing to do would expose people to risk it put it on Health at risk I mean you and I are doctors okay thing to do people write yes hilarious episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're 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can you describe what's going on with these mRNA viruses and how they differ excuse me mRNA vaccines and how they differ from a regular vaccine and what what's coming down the pipe from Pfizer these are mRNA vaccines it is different in that it doesn't actually contain the virus but it boost your body's ability to fight off the virus so many different ways of developing vaccines the idea of the general idea behind the vaccine is is that we want to give you a kind of inner thoughts infection we want to expose you make it as if you had been infected but without the risk of getting the disease to trick your immune system into mounting an immune response so that your body has been prepared if it gets the real infection to fight it off and one of the simplest ways you can think about it is so-called live attenuated virus is it all technology where are you you take a virus to the laboratory you culture it hundreds of times and hope for mutations that weaken the virus's ability to make you sick but nevertheless keep the virus able to elicit an immune response and then we give you that strain as a shot and you have left a mild illness develop antibodies and Immunity and then sustained or you can have inactivated virus like one of the Chinese the stock of the sign of vaccine that was one of the first to start China is a live attenuated viruses so that is oh I'm sorry did I say I can't remember but anyway this scene is a virus in which day they take the virus I'm sorry I know it's not like the previous example in this case or with chemicals to kill the virus but still have it be immunogenic and that's another approach and their many other approaches approaches one of which is this mRNA idea and hear what is done is so I'm sorry before I tell you about that another approach might be to take take the RNA from the coronavirus that codes for a very important protein the spike protein on the surface of the coronavirus and insert that into a a really benign virus looks like a cold virus for example some material some RNA into it let's say that forces that virus when it infects your cells to give you a common cold but also to express this protein as if you had been infected with covid-19 musician to that immune response to that protein and now your immune so we gave you like a mild illness and we protected you from a more serious one the MRNA early with with with RNA and the idea is that your cells take up the RNA and start making the protein the alien protein that your body of would have made like it's infected you with a real coronavirus the real coronavirus as many people remember from high school biology the virus can't reproduce on its own it inserts its genetic material into our cells which then start producing the viral the virus itself but now innocence instead of giving you the whole virus we give you a little part of it just some part of his genetic material the MRNA which in an Ideal World does the same thing gets inserted into your cells you start expressing this protein which then your body attacks and you develop an immune response to it and we are amazingly lucky that that are scientists have been able to develop not one but two different vaccines and will have many other vaccines using different modalities I have no doubt that come out in the next year or two but the modern on the Pfizer vaccines were very lucky that they exist in that they are apparently quite effective but the but the story's not over on those I don't know if you want to talk about that but but it's good news but I don't want people to get over-optimistic either because you know it's my job to be a bit of a downer well this is the this is the unfortunate narrative the people keep saying the virus is killing its did the average immune system is ninety-nine Point whatever percent effective in protecting you from the virus meaning 99.1 ever percent of the people who get the virus survive we're at approximately and if you're older than 70 or 80 20% will die so why why is the number that people keep talking about far less than that why is the the reported number of people to get the virus who actually wind up dying it's it's not 1% we're not we're not seeing 1% Nationwide in terms of people getting the virus and dying so we have to look at how many people have to have a way of ascertaining who's infected and then we have how many died and and and I called the infection fatality rate and there was just a recent meta-analysis looking at very good data from around the world multiple studies using different approaches that estimated that the infection fatality rate is between 5 and 8% and the something called the case fatality rate is the fraction of people who have symptoms who when infected who died and that number is about twice that so about half the people get the virus and have no symptoms at all so if you get symptoms you have a higher risk of death and so you can double .5 2.8 becomes one to 1.6% of people who develop symptoms from the disease die and there was another very good study that was just released a couple of weeks ago that estimated the infection fatality rate to be about 1% so there's a lot of them certainly not less than half a percent and could be as high as 1% I would say it's going to be in that range the IFR the infection totality right isn't there a large percentage of people that get it that don't have symptoms half about half we think that's right okay but it's somewhere in there. I don't think I don't think I gave a number I think I said 99.7 thing but the point being that unfortunately a lot of people saying this vaccine is 94% effective or 90% effective ask if your if it reduces your risk of death by that fraction so for example in the vaccine trial in the Weiser trial these numbers are proximate about 43,000 people in the trial half of them got the vaccine half of them did not and in the people who got the vaccine nine people option I'd let's say 9 or 10. Even though they were vaccinated still got coronavirus still have the disease perfect and in the in the arm that did not get the vaccine the other 20,000 people let's say 90 people approximately got coronavirus oh what the vaccine did is it reduce your probability of getting the disease from 90 out of 20,000 people over the time window of the study to 10 out of 20,000 people so the point here is that the the the vaccine is reducing your risk of getting seriously ill if you're infected and and and it's not in your certainly better off in other words you would have had left at 1% chance of dying before and now you have a point 1% chance of dying 90% lower than that because we know we giving you the back seat completely I understand exactly what you're saying what I'm trying to say is there's an unfortunate narrative or people are saying I'm not going to take a vaccine because the human immune system is more effective than the vaccine CSUN true that's what I wanted to get out of you vaccines work is it enhances your your performance you know it's like it did stimulate your immune system to make it even better at fighting the the virus or there's no sense in which you could argue that an unchallenged immune system is superior to a challenged immune system system that has been you have been given a vaccine so this is what's important to tell people right because this Narrative of 99% of the people who get it ninety nine point whatever your immune system is effective in fighting off this disease whereas with the virus it's only ninety plus whatever percent effective in preventing the virus so this is not it. That's not a good narrative correct as you were saying like and like like me you sometimes use the word virus when you mean back seeing and you use the word backs let's say for the sake of argument you have an unvaccinated you have a 99% chance of surviving if you get infected you have to add to that the benefit of the vaccine which is 90% less a Effectiveness so it'll reduce your probability from 99% chance of surviving to 99.9% chance to survive thank you that's exactly what I wanted to get out of you that when when you talk about the people that took the vow Maxine and that we know you have the day to between the difference of the vaccine the people that got the placebo the people that got the vaccine that still wound up getting covid-19 we don't know how safe the vaccine is supposed to be very clear both Pfizer and moderna have released interim results and we have every reason to believe that the final efficacy results will be about the same so as they complete the trial in the coming months and more people get sick in both arms suddenly the best me not to work I mean we've gotten to a point where we're pretty sure that will be effective and important for people to understand again and says everyone needs to be a mineralogist now imagine that you're doing a trial and you're trying to see whether a vaccine works or not I got the Define what counts as Works what counts as an endpoint so let me give you three possibilities one possibilities were going to measure does the vaccine prevent you from even getting infected or does the vaccine say you were not or do we say stop you from getting infected Tobias is going to take root in your body but the vaccine is going to prevent the virus from making you seriously ill or do we say actually the Alchemy really care about his death does the virus reduce your probability of death so it's possible that the vaccine for example might just to illustrate this point prevent you from getting seriously ill but not reduce the probability of death other words in the book in the Pfizer trial that I just described you with an itin in the vaccine 10 people got sick and in the non in the placebo arm 90 people got sick what is in both arms one person died one out of the ten in the vaccine arm died and one out of the 90 in the in the other arm died we would say that the vaccine was effective at lowering your probability of getting bill which is great but it had no effect on dying that's possible is possible that the vaccine will work a different phases of illness process and so defines our trial revealed that there was a greatly reduced probability of people getting infected the Moderne trial actually show that it's vaccine reduce the probability of people getting seriously ill just grave but it might in fact have no effect on mortality still we don't know furthermore we also don't know whether this vaccine even if it works reduces whether it works to reduce your ability to infect other people so so maybe we've start vaccinating the population we're reducing the individual recipients probability of getting sick but they still can spread the disease so something else it's fantastic news that we have a vaccine but I just don't want people to get think it's a Panacea episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

this one is weird one right where is a lot of people get it in their asymptomatic I've ever had several friends that got it and literally experienced no no symptoms they were around people that had it they got it they tested positive and got as little as a mild headache or a slight cough or a day Jamie had it and he thought he had a sinus infection he thought it has allergies kicking in turns out he was positive but he was very fortunate is it was a very mild case do we know why would some people get it when some people get it it's devastating and young people I have a young friend is 28 he got it and he was really ill for two weeks where some people get it and it's nothing yes so we we have some sense of some of the reasons it varies but not a huge understanding yet of the interpersonal variation but I would like to go on a tangent based on that that highlights the ways in which these kind of protein and manifestations of this disease the fact that with this condition you can go from everything from having no symptoms to mile symptoms like Jamie to more serious symptoms like your 28 year old friend to really severe symptoms to being hospitalized to dine right there's this incredible range of diseases that this particular virus can cause and in a way this is very unfortunate for us because it makes it so much harder as a society to take the virus seriously and to combat it let me give you an analogy so I want listeners to imagine that there two worlds I'm about to describe two different worlds in World a there a thousand people and a virus infects 10 people in this world make seriously ill and one person dies so we would say that in this world 10% of the people that got sick died of the virus that's World a in World be there a thousand people the virus infects a hundred people 90 of them get mild illness 10 of them once again gets serious illness like in World a and one of them dies again like in World a so in this world and World be a hundred people got sick and one died so we might say one Adam died in World a 10% of people that got sick died in World be 1% of the people that got sick. I know many people hearing about this my might think that it's better to be in World be because you know it seems like the virus is less deadly but that's a delusion got mild illness other words nobody right no right-thinking person should prefer to be in World be there to be in World egg in world a 10 out of a thousand people got seriously ill and one died and in World be that happened plus another 90 people got mildly sick so clearly worse the overall situation is worse than the situation that we are facing a situation hard in all these extra people those 90 people who got mild illness make people take the disease more you casually where is in World a people might say will not many people getting sick but when they get sick 10% of them died while we should take this disease seriously you do see what I'm saying if you wanted an engineered virus that's that's kind of how you would do it affect so many people where they like it was nothing and they some people wear you know their dead within a few days yes and also as you pointed out earlier it also has this property of being transmitted transmissible when it's asymptomatic so just to just to remind people HIV is like that which you can't really spread smallpox before you have symptoms you the pustules on your body and that's when you become a so there's a there's a there's a there's no asymptomatic Transmission in smallpox and there is an HIV and stars one from 2003 was more like smallpox other words people didn't begin to transmit the virus until they actually have symptoms from it which is one of the reasons it was easier to control in fact there's a lot of analysis that have been done that show about 75% of the infections have been acquired from people who are asymptomatic there so there's another issue as well that we can compare to smallpox in that you can develop a vaccine for smallpox that actually works for your whole life you can't really do that with covet correct we don't know for sure we don't know that for sure we I don't know that for sure I'm hopeful that we'll be able to have a see that has long term it confers long-term immunity but I don't think we know that either way for sure episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

who's the guy that we made fun of BonChon the show who was a pastor to a lot of famous people whose like the hip young Pastor who just got busted what I was saying because he was wearing these shorts that showed what I called his dick root like that unless you want someone to think about your penis that's that's why you wear shorts like that maybe in the 70s it would be there being overtly sexual two people are they don't even necessarily know right you're trying to and you want everyone to look at your chiseled body you know like this is none of this a reason why monks dress in these like like very modest clothes that cover everything they don't even want to think about their body . is a part of the religion of both celebrity and social media right that this guy has got these traditional Christian ideas fused in with the religion of celebrity in with the religion of social media and then you seen that doesn't really work because you don't like what what's the reward for those that those Behavior the reward is he want that a f*** guy wants people to lust after him and it wound up sabotaging them ultimately absolutely I think that's a morality story of some kind and the sexual praise and you want people to lust after you you also want them to think of you as being someone who is more enlightened than everyone else which is why you're willing to stand in front of them and give these emotional profound sermons in the first place that resonates with all these lost young people write historical and religious preacher early Sunday or sure you know others that do you know that that's like the religious leader becomes a celebrity in his lines get blurred and for that because they feel very lost and disconnected because they've achieved the thing that they've always desired and they still feel lost everyone's looks at certain celebrities then go on my God you've made it your life Must Be Heaven depressed and all f***** up and we don't have any sympathy for them there's no one's going to be sympathy sympathetic to Justin Bieber with three hundred million dollars in the bank and having sex with anybody who wants to like f*** you it's probably because first of all particularly like the really young people who became famous while they were young like I had Miley Cyrus on who I think is incredibly talented brilliant brilliantly talented her voice is fantastic it's so Soulful but she got famous when she was 12 I have a 12 year old man I can't even imagine I can't imagine being the boss and filling Arenas when your 12 it's Madness and no one survives it I mean maybe a few of gotten through it and they're saying but most of them don't and that's where celebrity preachers come in or someone can harness your celebrity and it boost them up and they can also provide you maybe even a member of his disingenuous but some sort of structure that makes you feel like there's more that you that you can you can cling to something that's going to make sense of this all and that something is Jesus or Muhammad or whatever it is whatever it is that you you cling to whatever structure that you cling to write Buddha whatever it is and they can and I can be exploited especially in those situations I think her absence. I got here and never something missing well you didn't grow up any of them don't they don't survive survive and then obviously drugs can be one way to it's the most common way to to deal the whole world that grew up famous and almost none of them survived yeah and also more importantly with him and his son who's also really normal really well-adjusted but he also got clean and sober right early on right right right so yeah I mean he made it he's one of the few that got famous very young and has navigated through with Grace but I think the ones that are children that grow up child stars though you know them the ones I got to keep Mouse show and good luck you know and then that's that they're there to is a pretty common Universal aspect of human life as I have Something to Believe In Those poor gurus they fall into the Trap too cuz now they can leech off the success of these famous people become famous themselves right and maybe they haven't really immunize themselves inoculated themselves ^ celebrity sure it's a very intoxicating drug like you got under how to how to avoid it and avoid the pitfalls of it's not easy well again that's that's the life that everyone wants I mean that's not that's part of the pressure I assume for a lot of people at American public have but I think we can really learn from those preachers preachers that only go after like really like not only go after but attract celebrities like there's something to that weird sort of parasitic genre of a Preacher right though I agree I think it's right for study what we're after it's born the celebrity I think there's a drug in there there's several drugs that are mixed together and sort of a concoction there's a drug of celebrity which you know for sure is a drug and then there's also a drug is being the person was the answers definitely something that people do when they convince other people that they have the answers that elevates their mood and their perspective is like some weird Guru drug so there's a through drug and then there's a celebrity drug Renee were identifying a hole with that guy was the sex drugs he's a powerful man is a handsome tall ripped shredded preacher guy give us simplistic perspective I think he could have benefited from real drugs so I think a person who's involved in those three weird drugs could have been they've really really could have benefited from psychedelic now cuz I could have let you hey hey hey heading to be above it all but you're not just one of us and that can be pretty pretty destabilizing in outfield for someone like that but also transformative fear comes with a lesson and that the that insecurity comes with the lesson and I think part of the lesson is appreciate the moment of Life appreciate life appreciate this right you know and when you're all f***** up on on pot and you look like when it's over you can like right you relax and you can appreciate things in a different way right shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

volume in teaching this for this class but it's probably been about seven or eight what is it like pre-tenure and post-tenure cuz it seems to be a difference in terms of freedom and right I overplayed out of it but organization in Iowa and Logic the higher education post-tenure think it's b******* professions not good because then the it almost like the intellectual version of being born wealthy like you you have no worries and so you you almost become spoiled well well well that's absolutely there are arguments that after some faculty get tenure of the shutdown or they really are doing I mean it's a whole tier system so you move you get tenure when you move from assistant to associate professor and then you know what you want to get to is full Professor right and that's the sort of that just a different place in the hierarchy I felt much Freer after I got after I got tenure to explore topics that I would be more hesitant to explore between religion and drugs so luckily I'm not the only one who but it's I believe there are a lot of interesting connections that haven't been made especially in in Contemporary American society the other the other drug that I'm particularly interested in and seems to get a lot of response is that I also include Pharmaceuticals and prescription. Glasses as a part of the drugs and religion connection and so looking at the pharmaceutical industry and then pills as some sort of religious objects and and structures and cultures magic pill that is effective and can bring you to a better place it has importance in terms of community and who you are connected with how the drug allows you to have certain kinds of community so a lot of this is obviously kind of message do you see the messages and in pharmaceutical commercials for me trippin with kind of religious sentiments and sensibilities you can be safe where you saved your well your saved with a bill so this is a subject in particular that like pre-tenure would be enough to be walking on eggshells I would say yeah there are some but enjoy it though I think most people would like to keep it in and think it's serve some function in terms of as you're saying sort of legitimacy of people are internally motivated some people are motivated just buy whatever drives them whatever intellectual curiosity their goals whatever it is it has nothing to do with financial stability or job stability but not not not most most people if you give them 100% job security they're going to get fat I'm afraid their interests no matter what and then they're certainly the number of Scholars who were like that make their way to the top the path is what enters our them the destination is not real right you do would be work but not for you so it's just a different kind of professional life a memoir on mortality I was directionless and just f****** around at high school and getting taking all kinds of drugs can you believe that in the San Fernando Valley that's weird you were doing that in San Fernando Valley no one does that help wear oh yeah alright right in California can't wait to go to the Jets are cuz you would heard about it legendary kickboxer in the early days of kickboxing and he came out of Los Angeles it's so funny how many people come out of San Fernando Valley we came around episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

but my my interested my interest is more in the sort of intersections of religion and culture where people might not recognize their being religious even though I would try to make the argument that they are celebrity I would call a religious culture that has systems of meaning different kinds of rituals possibilities for discovering your true self whole kind of value system that can be tied up as a form of religion small tribe and there was one great leader battle-scarred leader who seen it all and can give us the information and he was the one talking we would listen that that would be a person of great importance we all gather around and listen but when you see Brad Pitt in the movie screen and his face is 30 feet high and this music playing when he talks in the team of writers of carefully constructed all of his words in the perfect sentence and you know it's just like it's so moving and inspiring and then even real life oh my God it's really you let me why is really done anything other than pretend he's been protecting the great Entertainer but distractions but it's not that he's led us through battle but it's not that he's he's figured out how to find the food in the water you know this is not what it is but in our hijacked human reward system we treat him as though he is the great leader sort of them strange middle-ground celebrity and spiritual leader of some kind so you know obviously it's going to vary depending on what celebrity you're talking about but you know just in terms of projections our imagination where we invest you know our Energies consumer culture or things around medicine that their religious qualities that don't have to do with the Bible or with Muhammad or something that is very rigid ideologies that treated like religions that you have to follow and is also signs that people will hold up that they're complying and there along with this ideology one of them that I talked about a lot of people taking photos with masks on on Twitter for their profile picture right like I know what you're doing right we all know what you doing yeah unimportant kind of site for religious activity and Investments and where we're really going to see the action what's happening on Instagram Twitter and so on your not meaning like as handed down from a higher power your meaning as in people fall in with the same sort of compliant behavior and patterns and not necessarily I mean it's not all just sort of compliance and Conformity is how we try to live our lives in ways that can carry as well as you know issues around Health what are the sources that are available to be you know as I said in my class many times I think popular culture is much more of an important kind of teacher about religious ideas and values than you know the local preacher house up because people pay more attention to absolutely because they're more swayed by it has more of an impact put into the actual impact of what is in so much thought putting into a just what pops liquid gets people to pay attention right well and money talks and money is sacred you know when want some more of the Sacred and our society than making some money and that's connection so the action isn't taken place in the church that's taking place in you know music festivals Burning Man this is where generalize but I think very much for especially younger people but baby boomers as well go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

the Natural History Museum in Bozeman Montana has a raptor that on one side of it they had feathers on it try to give you like an alternate perspective of what it might have looked like they know that now that the idea that all dinosaurs were these reptile looking things is incorrect some of them literally were birds so the birds you see today whether it's a peacock or chicken or something like that they're f****** dinosaurs bigger than a chicken didn't really make it why did the small ones make it when the impact hit the world that it was so devastating they killed almost everything till I never whatever was left whatever scrounging the Scavenging little creature that was left evolved and became us we used to be a mole we'd be like a shrew 65 million years ago that's what these people you came from a monkey I know you know baby Jesus is how crazy these Liberals are you know that it's crazy to think you came from Uncle Willie's motherfukers take it to another level that they're so crazy they think you came from a shrew he were like a little mold character yep yep yep yep yep and then that became a monkey and then becomes you all that s*** inside of 65 million years get the f*** out of here inside of 65 million years and years old do crocodiles have the same but somehow or another we went from being a f****** shrew to being a person who knows and loves Jesus in her heart s*** that's it right there that thing so if you can see like rats like there was a buy it

have you spent any time at all playing virtual reality Games you enjoy what do you think about it and he said to me I know that if I stop playing that game I don't play it at all or I'm going to basically be giving up years of my life and I don't have the time to do that so I just have never even opened the game to play it it's just not something I want to do and that's that's how I felt about most I grew up watching Ghostbusters and loved it so fly through you and you can feel the suit compresses and so feels like they're biting into which experience but if you had told me that I could give up the next 48 hours of my life put on the run around no food just just do this before so incredibly immersive and engaging and interesting I would have done it it was amazing and it wasn't even like that's not even where we going with this stuff games you play I playing with my whole family we put the haptic feedback suits on Virtual Reality helmets you kill zombies you fight off skeletons on a pirate ship there's a bunch of games and it is wild and you see it and you go I see where this is going like this is right now pretty immersive pretty immersive really really fun very engaging exciting to do but you know for a fact that it's just going to keep getting better and keep getting better and right now it's insanely addictive what I get soap have to do it when we did like while go with my family every couple weeks or so and we get so excited when we're on our way over there luckily it's got a set time it's the one our experience when it's over it's over but my God you know you're you're in it like you just want to know you're in a haunted house you're fighting off zombies and they're just running at you like hundreds of them you're gonna come down it's so exciting when they get ahold of you feel their touch like them in a haptic feedback CPAC red in front of your face like you're getting torn apart and you know that this is essentially like Doom right if you play doing today it's the pixels are enormous it's just like it looks clumpy and squarish and blockish and it's fun still but it's so it is so crude and comparison to a modern game you know where the modern games have like there's a new Unreal Engine and we were playing a video of it the other day because it's so hard to believe that this is just a video game in this this video game the lighting in the textures in the shadows are so exact it's so incredible and you just have this feeling of an Ativan inevitability like there's just going to come a time where you're going to be in this virtual reality thing and you're going to have a whole haptic feedback outfit from your fingers to your toes all over your face and it's going to it's going to be better than real life and that's what everyone's terrified of yeah I don't mean it's it's hard to it's hard to avoid that right that. Feeling that excitement that you have is your about to play imagine if that will always available to you at any moment of the day it'll be hard to resist it and then there was a point where everything just the processing speed the sophistication of the development of design you can make it seem basically real and it's only going to become more so and so you don't have to suspend disbelief at all the men experience it's there it's real it might as well be real people way smarter than me that aren't worried about it you know I had John Carmack on the podcast are those engines he's his take on phones was basically well people enjoy them and they make life better and he just doesn't seem to be worried at all and you know obviously he makes games and he's working with oculus who was at the time at least working with oculus making all these games and he he's also a very disciplined person so he'll code for 16 hours a day you know and he's also he plays that there's the one game we have the drumsticks in the things are coming at you and you're swinging at the air and knocking at insanely high level where he's basically getting this wild cardio workout in like like he's doing some sort of stick fighting martial art you know is like swinging his arms back and forth through the air and he actually is workout like you can do that and there's there's some benefits to like there's a boxing game that you play on Oculus or no HTC Vive I played it on and when you play this boxing game you or your squaring off against an opponent and when you get hit your screen lights up like you got hit in sparring and you can maneuver around so it's actually a workout you actually move around this person coming at you and they turn with you to try to meet you they know where you're standing and they swing at you you can you can do certain things where is actually beneficial you can get some exercise I've seen some of them they're in engineering now with omnidirectional treadmills so you have a harness around your waist you're connected in position on his omnidirectional treadmill so you can go anywhere you want and you're running and you're shooting at things and run it and you get this great workout while you're having fun so it's not all doom and gloom I think there's a temptation to fall on one end of the spectrum of the other and I don't think that makes sense as with most issues in life you know this is some new ones that's going to come in people who will just talk about the end of the world and suddenly you find this game that encourages you to to run and move around that's going to have some beneficial effects if you hear someone who's unnaturally disciplined like don't, then I'm going to take the best from scratch that I say what what is going on where is all that time going with with screens with any kind of Technology with any kind of shift in the world you always want to try to do that across the population not trying to roll back to the 1950s yet we want to retain the screens but work out the best way to use them in the best pipe rust resistant when we need to do that we're also getting in shape examples this is the same year that Facebook I'm about I couldn't really find a good enough internet connection to be able to speak with video to my family in Australia and I don't think I'm a couple years later go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

it's done and you go back and you look at it and you you think about the time that's passed since you released it is there anything you would have revised is there anything that you wish you would added yeah of the big tech companies and I wanted to write about the business side of of what these companies were doing and tried really hard but didn't get that far in building with these companies I couldn't get past a lot of the Condor some barriers and I knew what I was writing about because I wanted to be honest about it and I couldn't get along but I would like to learn more about the business side and a lot of that was getting from me so that's a big part of it is not there's not much else really business practices of these companies was interesting to you that they are aware of how addictive all these things are elevations and then you you take that information and you embedded in the platform that you're designing but that's really hit and miss that's how avoid the trial-and-error by being completely agnostic about the theory what's going to drive us to know about that all I need to do is run a series of Clive trials by combat so if you're playing again you might discover people will play the mission 10 minutes longer if they buy the ocean is round 2 of the trial you cannot Rescue an artifact or you can rescue a person and people attend out a more interested in rescuing a person so they'll play for an extra 10 minutes if you do this is kind of Frost resist and if you do that on mass and ends up typing the user experience you end up having features on the platform that designed to be hot for us to escape from if you're creating a game billions and billions of data points in getting real-time very rapid feedback from us also compared to books and movies it's it's not a fair comparison cuz those things end yes that's really where the problem lies right is that a book or movie is not going to make you eat pizza 3 times a day and gain 40 lb / 5 weeks because you're trapped in your house doing nothing but enjoying this book or movie constantly because there is no end to it like there's something like I said I'd completely understand why they would do that and then it makes sense or engineering a game you would want to make this game the most compelling the most entertaining the most engaging possible but do you think that these companies have a social responsibility for recognizing the fact that they are massively addictive did I have an ethical of social responsibility is on Google Facebook Instagram Twitter it's doing other things that is a loss that I conceived about as a loss and it is because it means that are less capable of attracting advertising dollars and that drives the whole model that is a broken model it's a terrible model because of privileges isn't that when Nintendo came out that was just an incredible product I think that was just you know that was designed to deliver a plus experience money for us to get us depart without time and therefore without money and responsibilities and Industrial company and his company is making billions of dollars but the reminder externalities so negative for that I'm not suggesting I do exactly the same thing with tech companies but there is an externality these companies are making billions of dollars the externality is not that they poisoning their waterways in the air but they're changing how we would have the same sort of effect that a warning label has on cigarettes but it doesn't really matter like when they put those cancer labels on cigarettes people smoke cigarettes already know what causes cancer tops anything or helps them at all warning labels a toothless if you don't know warning labels done too much I agree so what could they do have them hamstring themselves like if you like let's propose they reverse-engineer what they've done and do at the opposite way like it itches going towards the ocean makes people play more so we're going to go to the woods rescue person makes you play more so you know you are rescuer Jim you know like they're going to use the least addictive out of all these paths then you going to be non competitive with the people that are engineering games that are going to choose the most addictive so then it's almost like everyone's agreeing to make the shittiest game possible because it's the only way people can not be addicted I think as I said the model is broken if a model is about attention and about picking the version of the game social media billions of dollars of Revenue that you got from from Individual uses to a pint to use the platform and that's that's the universe that I think leads to better outcomes for everyone and beaches based on people enjoying them getting value from them rather than features designed to hook us octopus you spending too much time you feel bad about it talk about ways to deal with it but working at the level of the of the tech companies is really really difficult episodes of The Joe Rogan 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will be hard for us to to resist the temptation to do that and it's going to create a physical barrier between human beings wanted to figure out a way to hook us deeper artificial intelligence would release a virus and they would force us to stay inside it doesn't kill everybody but it makes people scared so you stay inside and it connects you even deeper to computers and maybe more importantly separates you even more from The Human Experience of touching and being around each other and social cues and social Gathering and it makes it even more compelling to do thing virtually more compelling to be on your computer all the time messing with applications and then while this is all going on something far more immersive is released when you're already accustomed to it The Lost Boys pick the last four people would say this is a lot of people I just over and so when we hostel of this I think there's a chance that's going to be the Catalyst to push people away craving that. True face-to-face time you're actually sitting in front of a person having a real conversation and that's being I think a shift in a lost roughly I don't know you that are craving the experience of being around other folks who I think you're aware of the repercussions of his virtual experience that we're all engaging in and the addiction to screens and screen time and phones and games and applications but I think there's plenty of folks that are happy to just get lulled to sleep and sucked into it and I think that's my real concern my real concern is mindful thoughtful people like yourself that are you know that are saying listen we need you know just a real experience with human beings and we're revolting and and leaving the but if you look at that numbers in terms of human beings like what like it at the average screen time all that stuff going up use of these things is all going up and I think there's folks like you that would like to think that we're rejecting it I think it's a it's a minority that's rejecting it I think they're mine or the majority are embracing it and screens do that they are avocados a non substance way to to be soothed what happened with me on that flight to six hours uncertainty about everything we do and humans episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that include the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

we are in a weird f****** time and if the aliens come right now it's the probably the best time to come over we're going to be the most relaxed about it people are scared to shake hands when are you going to say hi tell me what's up tell me what's actually going to have an alien the podcast imagine three-foot-tall 40 lb dude with a giant bulbous head in like antennae like fingers in his explained how they Traverse space imagine soundtrack and you interpret those sounds No Matter What language you're in all over the world you instantaneously and turbo wheel. there's a alien on the JRE and that's a little bit me talking to some alien protein your assholes they probably eat clouds or like they probably just eat energy they maybe they just exist in some sort of redundant system material probably cereal they probably just eat energy maybe they just exist in some sort of like a redundant system material probably they're probably just cereal

can you see David Blaine manipulate cards you realize like oh okay like there's levels to everything like David Blaine to do crazy s*** with cards like he didn't see it with my daughter like eat like Denny's car tricks and I was watching everything he did and I have no idea how he did it but he did things were like cards would you have a stack of cars and you keep tapping the stack and stack would go small and small to his like two cards you have no idea how we did it you just look at it like what are you doing like he's got access to time travel is like pulling those cards out when you're not looking and then coming back to normal. Like it didn't make right I know how to do a couple of car checks and I'm not very good at them but like I have an idea each was he asked them to do it hold each of his arrest he rolled his sleeves up and he made these cards disappear you know like what is happening what are you doing now and I I took the job because Robert Morton who used to be the executive producer of Letterman with the EPS anyway I take the job just cuz it's a short to 4-week we're making a pilot for this magician I'm like I like magic magic school and Morty's the EP so this will be a cool thing to work on right short job so I show up day one and basically were all in a big writers room or whatever and I go yeah you know in there like we got Tony here cuz he's a you know he's going to add some Edge to the comedy on the show cuz it was a comedy whose comedy Central's first-ever magic comedy show the pilot and and I go yeah you know I'll punch up whatever you guys show me the tricks that you want to do and I'll write jokes around the trick and that's when I this is when I realized how cool this job was about to be they go the main guy goes now you write the trick and you write the joke and I'm like so you'll be able to do whatever my imagination thinks would be a cool magic trick and like him and like four other magicians which was basically the rest of the creative staff the same time or like yep and that's what excites them is because they can't even think of things you know what I mean and I can but they want to hear what a different mind thinks would be impossible and then they figure out how to do it well we ended up because it was a pilot of a show we ended up having to figure out a theme for just the pilot so the example that was technology so one of the things was him vs. him versus a 3D printer in making things. It was really funny because there was this kid they went to this ended up finding this like nerdy smart school where this kid was excited about his three printer and basically it was it was just him making things appear out of absolutely nowhere well one kid was still printing one thing with a 3D printer took forever Indian pigeon pigeon pigeon pigeon car car car car car ended up being you know it's a comedy so but there was some really crazy ones first and they know what the average person you looking at a deck of cards you have an idea what's possible with with a deck of cards but they have is 10x times more options how to hold them how to move them how to manoeuvre those cards how to distract you with the other hand after a day at work and I find like the seven of Spades an issue I forgot to finish that one checked the folded card under Jeff's watch band and he's like where's the card and you can just like where to go look at your wrist and you like realize like it was folded and stuffed under his watch and he has a f****** G-Shock right so it's it's not like a loose crazy watch band it's a tight buckle rubber strap watch band he stuffs it in there and he's like what the f*** I'm like what the fuc no one saw it and that's Amy what you are feeling some of it right can you film some of it other people. I was wondering I was I was a big fan of his growing up cuz I was like a huge fan of magic David Copperfield But like after I figured I was waiting my whole life to watch him up close like I said and I wanted to just I wanted to try to catch him and he said he was so good at he did I-76 in front of you can't cuz he's a really nice guy really nice guy like genuinely nice on camera off camera with everybody with security guys with my family with everybody like you can tell just really nice friendly genuine guy but some of the stuff he does his pocket weird like you made me shove an ice pick through his bicep yeah what was that like I mean yeah it's not a trick right it's just pain and I think the pain is just a sensation right and if you could just tolerate the sensation it's not deadly in one time I hit a nerve when going to back it out and do it again how to do it a second time because I got in a new sub top top like it hit the nerve and do it again I think you supposed to be more disturbing and impressive than I reacted to it cuz first of all I'm used to pain you know I've been doing martial arts most wanted some always hurt I've had a bunch of surgeries and also have butchered animals like I understand muscle tissue and I'm not it's just like why we doing this it was more why we doing this then oh my God I can't believe we're doing this like I wanted was not a good one for me because it's like okay like I could do that too like if you want to shove that through my arm I could just sit here while you shove that threw my arm I wouldn't like it though I bleed a little bit yeah we had to stop and refill because he had like a little bit of a hematoma right timing wasn't it but a little muscle I pushed it through his f****** arm dude like his muscles a hundred percent not between the bone in the muscle no no I shoved it through his muscle 100% you can do that you can do that you know there's guys this one things we found out during the show that I didn't know they would shove swords through their body their whole gig with shoving swords everybody and we watched it live we are not live watch videos of these guys shoving swords through this one guy's body was famous for it so it take like a long thin sword they shove it through his chest and come out the other end and it just be standing there with his sword through yeah so here's me did you see this now so here's me yeah poke the right there at 100% real but again that's not the best one for me because if your person is like doesn't necessarily see a lot of pain or the oven you still a surgery or someone getting feel like if you did that to a doctor write the doctor Blake doing the pushing something through the muscle probably hurts right good joke or a casana it's an illusion you just doing something that hurts like okay like Steve-O could do that Steve has probably done that a hundred times he does things like that I mean you probably drink 15 bottles of water or something crazy and then he swallowed his frog in the frogs in his stomach with all the water they swallowed and then he spit up the water slowly but surely in a buckwheat and ice bucket on the table and then he eventually got to the point where he felt the Frog coming up a spit the frog out in my hand shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

Lions have one shot of getting injured to get injured once in their life and then it's over so how long do you think they last after an injury like that doubles in a couple weeks so usually started do you think I like you think the lion keeps thinking you think they have like memories and they're like that f****** gazelle all the animals have an ego their sense of fair though animals have a sense of some animals to Italy Champs do one of the reasons why chimps attack people is cuz if people give something to someone else and don't give it to them they have a real sense of fairness yeah there's a famous story of this guy who had a pet chimp and then the same about chances you can keep them when they're young and then they get older and it's like a man but a man that's five times stronger than you and likewise you can listen to he's not going to listen to you so I think you start biting off fingers is 1 things of chips do what you have to get mad either bite off your finger and I just let you know they're the boss they don't give a f*** if you're injured have no remorse right and they're intelligent so he have his thing's not a dog is not a person it's just weird in between things and animal but it's also intelligent and so when you do something for someone else but you don't do something for them they get rage like horrific rage guide brings to a shelter the shelter takes it in and he goes to visit it every year in the chimp goes to see him I call my friend I miss you I miss you why can't I come home but I can't come home ever because he would just take over the house right cuz he's a grown chat meet they don't castrate Champs the way they castrate dogs like when you castrate a dog like everybody it's standard people think it's good. Yeah I did Dennis likes tired and like that like if you ever seen a dog gets snipped I had one of my dogs get snipped at when I was 5 years old is too aggressive and so someone talked me into it and then one of them snapped also knew was just tired all the time he's lazy and I realize it anymore it's all gone so the dogs are different dog now she can't do that for whatever reason you can't do that camps that are in cages right next to her like this m*********** didn't bring me a cake I can't believe this s*** so they figure out a way to get out and they got out and attacked them and they tore him apart they tore his face off and tore his dick off at towards feet off they they bit his fingers off it's one of the most horrific cruel attacks you'll ever hear of because they did it to try to take away from him the things he wants and needs like chimps recognize you need your fingers in order to do things your face do you need your dick in order to f*** so that's the things that go after f****** a****** to kill you they try to take away what it means to be a human so if you try to hide your hands will pull your hands away from open them up and buy them off like crazy with rage filled look in their eye and they don't communicate with language so they only have this sense in their head and what's fair and what's not fair and what you've done to them so if you do something that makes them jealous they think immediately you something bad that they don't think that no no I just gave my friend a cake you made them feel bad so it's you you made them feel bad so the go right after you so it's it's like a sort of up it's an interesting study in the way sometimes people look at things like we've all been jealous right you been jealous of someone you see someone is doing something well I wish I was that guy but you don't act that person right people recognize like it's not false that I feel bad that he has this Corvette I have to just I just got to appreciate the guys hustle guys out there kicking ass all right I got to get my s*** together but there's nothing that we have initially with him in the children we we feel angry like you feel upset like you feel like you've been shorted like someone's why didn't I get that this is b******* he gets it and I don't it's a fascinating part of human and then humans as we get older and more sophisticated with language but still carry the same child this motion we find reasons to be upset at someone for being successful we find reasons to Eat the Rich you know we find these by these weird little way so we can justify our jealous you are anger our disdain for those who are more successful than we so it's like we're coming up with complicated sophisticated ways to the farthest Primal behaviors that chimps exhibit and just violent rage so this guy the famous case so you can see the pictures if you want to see the pictures of the guy who got his face ripped apart I was off. Yeah look as face your fingers that's the champ right there on the right hand corner Champs exactly know the human anatomy all that well but they know what's important to you face your fingers f****** challenge or the sky part so if he would have brought pieces of cake and giving them to all the chimps and all the cages if but if you see a champ at the zoo and you you're in this big there in this big containment they all this monkey bars and stuff they can hang on but there's a bunch of people staring at them like all day long people staring at you through the glass and there's a ceiling light isn't that over the top so you can't go over the top and it's fences and you just like f*** everyday is boring nothing happens nothing happens every day there's no liens there's no no fruit to go pick there's no places to go journey to to explore are chimps travel around man then I'll just sit in one particular 100-yard area for the rest of their life that's not even a hundred yards right you go to the LA Zoo how small that enclosure is yeah I'm what's the LA Zoo wants really high really high like on an edible and I wrote a piece on my website called the animal prison and I was like because it made me feel like a f****** super sensitive to everything but I am recognized her instead of thinking about myself and thinking about you know I'm going to go to the zoo and see the monkeys I went there and I immediately felt sadness I was like oh no these poor creatures like they don't want to be here like what are we doing like we can't do this like I was thinking like I got to get out of here it's Trail we don't we don't even really know how smart are orcas all right we get there or Dolphins cuz we put them in these weird categories like how much emails do they send do they make houses know they must be stupid but they must cerebral cortex is 40% larger than ours we don't know how smart they are they also they communicate they have weird sophisticated language we can't decipher we can't decipher it we don't know what their language is they've been able to recognize specific accents so then like you know like there's a Southern accent and Cleveland accent is a Chicago accent accent like we can tell this by the sound do this isn't working from Alaska or this at work or from Seattle it just gets limp episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

that's also because he's in the Philippines in the the Philippines perfect position on the 707 to the 882 the 10 and he's out 10 ball watches pop if you watch out he Strokes the ball like everything super-precise of a position that's from fighting and goes into professional pool he we might win some World Championships like no bulshit me and he still fighting actively they're actually talked about him fighting Conor McGregor right now which is kind of Bonkers do that gets out beautiful position why do you say that kind of Bonkers because you think Dominique Connor free watched McGregor Mayweather since it's been like Don I just was on my Showtime app and I wanted to watch some box ain't it popped up and I clicked on it and I did not remember I remember is Connor shocking me with how good he did but I did not remember it being as close as it truly was the reason why it was closed because Mayweather let him blow his wad right just let him clip Mayweather legit legit left uppercut early in the fight and I was kind of stunned I was like wow that's really legit wash us here we go see what would Connor Italy that if you see it once this left uppercut so because he's not a professional boxer he's not as efficient and he's going to get tired easier Mayweather is one of the greatest if not the greatest boxer of all time I said there's a real good argument who's the greatest of all-time cuz he's undefeated 15o and really only been hurt by Sugar Shane Mosley and Maidana 2 Guys and they're spectacular career 50 and and just gets hit less than anybody and he's super smart about how he sets up fights he sets up one of these does a massive s*** and get everybody wanting to root for him to lose he'll show you always rolls-royce's to show you all this money to show you always watches and everybody's like he's going to go broke he's going to go broke because he's he's got his style is take the minimal amount of damage find your openings and then establish a game and then Dominate and that's what and everybody that's what he did to Manny Pacquiao and their fight and you know Manny Pacquiao apparently had a f*****-up shoulder but that's what he did to Ricky Hatton dominated Ricky Hatton with the time was in a one of the best in the world and a guy that a lot of people were interested in seeing how he would do against Mayweather and then the second fight with my Donna you to see the Brilliance of Mayweather cuz you know we got clipped in the first fight so he digested all of Madonna's movements and what he did wrong in the first thing that came out of second fight and just put on a clinic is basketball time but Connor is a freak he's an explosive guy he's so fast and there's no remedy for that other than getting a guide tired so what Mayweather was doing was boxing with them but preserving being safe got clipped a couple times realize that Connor can punch him punch but just drag him into Deep Water Deep Water is the most intelligent in terms of his overall strategy to preserve his house yet to always win me he's the most intelligent he's so good you know all the greats have suffered losses and setbacks and accept him look at that movement look how she moves away from everything so you you're punching it are and you still threatening but you're not really hitting them and he's making you throw punches and occasionally clip them with a shot as he's moving away and he rolls with a lot of s*** so it's got to be a guy like like Sugar Shane Mosley clip them really kliptham like really hurt him and he just grabbed a hold of him and held onto him eventually started kicking his ass just took time if you're young boxer and you want to know what it's like to be a 41 year old and still be at the top of your game you got to be like him or like Bernard Hopkins when Bernard Hopkins was at the top of his game he was older he was like in his forties like he was I think it was 36 when he beat Felix Trinidad a lot of people are Bernards done it's over 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my worry about this Biden thing is that people voted for Biden because they hate Trump they didn't vote for Biden because he's a leader that they respect and they wanted in Meijer and that he's going to lead us out of it like if Obama was calling for Unity if he was the guy that was the president and he was calling for Unity really intelligent guy with this message of unity should be listened to what that did happen right I mean that happened in 2008 that's what Obama said when he want and there was some decent amount of unity I think that over 70% approval rating when he first came in I mean it wasn't certainly anything like the country is now but at the end of 8 years of Obama you had a republican house Republican Senate and Donald f****** Trump elected president so we had that but it didn't matter cuz even with such a charismatic guy like Obama calling for Unity and sang a lot of the right things at least at first the the policies and what was actually happening in the country were really f****** over huge numbers of people and then also think that might have been somewhat out of Obama's control but not completely out is that the error of it was like like that the Obama recovery which was the most like fronius corrupts recovery ever and the woke all rows up at the same time in the Obama years not all of his fault but some of it is, Harris has her gender pronouns in her bio gender is Hee-Haw start a trend here I recognized as he ha that's great that it's a very strange strange I think though people like a day if if you really did care about what do Unity or whatever which I think is it like something that maybe we should care about a little bit I mean not that we all have to agree on everything right I don't like this that we don't have to all be one and I'll have the same you know attitude about everything but when you see what's going on in the country over this year at the culture wash it is really scary I like people should be appropriately concerned about that when you see what's going on in life was going on in Portland are you had like that f****** you know like the like militias facing off against each other you have like the antifa vs. proud boys type s*** like it's like a they're playing pretend Civil War a civil war right now in the moment don't want this to actually come to you holding your buddies head while he bleeds out and screams for his mom what you don't want that so the idea that down is is a good idea but I think the only way to do that is to understand why Donald Trump was president to begin with and that like to meet a big story of all of this isn't that Joe Biden looks like he's going to be the president that's kind of boring to me it's like I can't do it that Joe Biden got elected has been getting elected almost 50 years like 100k the story is still that Donald Trump won the presidency and then it for years later. Like Millions more votes than he got the first time and almost by the butt by hair almost wanted again I mean that's like pretty f****** crazy did you see when he was in Pennsylvania and he drew 53,000 people to his rally in central Pennsylvania and they start off the first like four minutes of it are at and we love you we love you we like what the f*** is that what's going on here and to just kind of dismissed like the corporate press attitude is like well as racism a little bit more being called a fashion as a big part of that it's a lot of the call for a radical shift and the identity of America well that I think that's a huge part of it I also think that if you're the woke lecturing is almost like just the insult on top like if you're one of these people who lives in these towns you've seen for four decades now like factories disappear jobs get outsourced the lights Nancy has gone down suicides have gone up you know you're one of these some guy in central Pennsylvania or what were all over the country and what you know you probably lost your job now you're working a shity or job you never really came back from where you are after 2008 maybe you got a son who's addicted to opioids got another son who like you know who's never been the same since you got back from one of these stupid Wars and then after all that the people who sent you there are now lecturing you about your white privilege and then Donald Trump it really took was Donald Trump came in and said you know what I'm for you I'm for you I'm not for the Mexicans are the Muslims I'm not for this world show time for you and I want you to win and that's like 10 any plastic message sure that's one of the things that he got across the whole thing to like make America great again but that's a simplistic message and two people that want to sort of like they really you know some some country music songs country music I like a lot of country music but a lot of country music I don't like because I know what you're doing you just trying to blocks everything into this real simple we're going to go down to the lake we're going to have ourselves a drink cuz everything's going to be great you know I miss my grandma like there's like this simplistic really boiled down worldview and it Comforts people because people are scared of new on scared of their scared of the complexity of light and yes I Donald Trump has a master that things down to a real simple slow slogan a real you know simple phrase that that people can wrap their heads around get behind but there's also that on the opposition to Trump side where they try to boil things down to like well that it was racism or it was white supremacy or something like that do you like there's a lot more going on here and I really think that like they're these people on some level recognized that they've been screwed over by the establishment forgotten by them and that they they are hated by by The Establishment which is true I like they're right about that until they wanted someone to fight for them and I think Trump represents that to them but I don't think he really was that for my perspective I think it's kind of con artist but I do think that he tapped into something that's really powerful and that could get a lot worse if there's not some kind of like reconciling with it does it get better now that's the real question like because what like how does it get better with Biden and Kamala Harris I mean unless people start rejecting once people realize that things aren't going to change for the better with them and office well that's I think that is that realization is going to come cuz things go you know things move fast these days but I do think that one of the things that's interesting with Biden and Kamala Harris is that a lot of these like super Progressive people are celebrating right now because Trump what was out you know until Trump Was Defeated and they feel like they helped get vitamin Kamala Harris and which is they were certainly a portion of helping them and then Trump also is the one who is saying like we know Joe Biden he's just a trojan horse for AOC and ilhan Omar he's socialism which is actually complete b******* Joe Biden if anything is a trojan horse for Dick Cheney Joe Biden is a trojan horse for the establishment War Hawks big Banks corporate Elite Tech Giant also that money too but I'd have to make those deals and then I'd have to be compromised and when he was saying that I was like he's right he's not wrong about that when I wrong about that because if he decided to play ball with all those guys like they would have got behind him and did the narrative would have switched yeah that's for sure it's a really important question that people might want to like pain. Even people who really hate Donald Trump and you can really hate Donald Trump that's fine but you might wonder why it is that the establishment hate him so much and I have like my guess is that it's not for the same reasons that your left-wing friend hates Donald Trump like I don't buy for a f****** second that the CIA and the Republican establishment hated Donald Trump because you said mean things about Mexicans but I just don't buy that for a f****** second these are people who will Slaughter brown people in third world countries and lose no sleep over at like Donald Trump was that he was a wild man who would blurred out things any blurred out a lot of crazy s*** they need also brought out the truth and that was something that nobody you're not supposed to say that but you're with Donald Trump was running in 2016 if he stood the Republican primary debate stage in South Carolina Republicans in South Carolina and looked at Jeb Bush in the eyes and said your brother lied us into war in Iraq and everyone was like what the fuc but you can't say that at the Republican South Carolina and all the pumpkins all the media class they're like Trump's finished now cuz you can't these are the people fought the war in Iraq and these are the most pro-military people rent and the next day at the at the primary Donald Trump took 60% at all the other Republicans all 12 of them split the other 40% episode from September 1st go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

I would have really loved to have seen Jorge Mas Vuitton come out with mono for had a camp cuz he did not have a camp for that fight and still presented some real big problems for tomorrow don't you find the Ascension of Jorge kind of funny I love it I want you when he fought I like Wednesday at 1:55 so I was at that fight it was in Fairfax Virginia and I'll never forget fight week was that one of these UFC gyms in somewhere in the suburbs of DC I don't remember where I live in city property with like you know go out to the suburbs and it was decently attended super well attended open workout has enough people there and I'll got a huge you know whatever and if I think it was Frankie know it was Chad Mendes and Ricardo Lamas the main event and Chad was a big Alpha Mill guy the time and Jorge came out and maybe 10 people knew who he was media the the Latin media that was their want to talk to him but like most of the media was kind of like her take on it f****** good this guy's on my way I thought you won that Fight 2 and then years later like what the f*** am I doing with my life and then he had a chance to think about all those fights where he just fell short and why did he fall short you know what to do was he playing it safe within decided he's going to start baptizing people as he puts it and man you talk to other guy with turn the corner and and change I mean the Ben askren fight though that was it that was the cherry on top and then of course the marking of Nate Diaz when he beat the f*** out of Nate Diaz and that was a crazy fighting they were talking about running that back I was like yeah I was confused I was like don't forget Darren till put his lights out 2 with a beautiful step forward left hook combination mean he's a monster he's a monster he's hard for anybody to deal with in the fact that he stopped there until when Darren tells his terrifying Striker that just beat down Donald Cerrone you know Darren tells a scary guy and to see him put him away that way and you know obviously was after tired and beat them but it was still like a stunning stunning KO and he just a fun guy like everything's fine about him. Like I like I do on the podcast and I said the real question is whether not been asking get ahold of you so I can get ahold of these nuts and oats that's that's him you know that's him he's just a real fun dude is a fun dude watch fight is a fondue to listen to him talk has been you can do it's like a couple of Miami guys couple cuban-americans and they're on opposite sides politically very much so I left but like they have this camaraderie through Heritage and identity and some shared experiences you just can't fake you know some of the reasons why is his takedown defense is so good he's confident that he could stand straight up like that and his striking is very crisp very clean and he's clever like you said straps you know what catches you really that f****** Ben askren thing was goddamn genius and we see him prep for IT training footage that he did that over and prep for the angle right to the right and then charged atom so they've been asked you would like grab this guy like literally he he sent two different traps the running at him and then the tree in the corner and then running at him and Ben askren like instincts just drove in and he couldn't help himself to go through any of his Fights free till winter loose doesn't matter and watch how many times when the other getting the mouthpiece put in in the Vaseline put on at the the beginning watch how many times the commentator says folks don't understand how good he is I know how smart is this is one of the most well-rounded fighters in all the UFC and they do it in this kind of way to like almost plead with the audience to understand the fighter as they do that that would be me fountain ideas right I mean Josh Thompson at one point in time was the f****** man right and so he knocks out Yves Edwards in boat dock member Bo. I have all the DVDs at home I have Mala home episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video that go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there will also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

I asked if you ever seen the images of indigenous people in the Amazon the walk around Barefoot and their feet literally start to look like hands they splay out in a very bizarre way you look at the tunnel when it's like it's it's like physically separated yes or looking at a picture of it right now and it's almost like they're gripping the ground with their toes and the toes are very thick and strong cuz they're they're constantly walk around Barefoot and they they use their toes in the toe muscles in a way that we don't use them anymore cuz we're essentially were in casts with our shoes look at like modern adaptation data pieces of modern humans you know in all these different pockets in the world or we look into all these ancient species which are even weirder humans are weird big heads we have a funny way of walking we're growing old and we've had so much I mean there's nothing about our proportion proportion to get the function of adaptation there a function of evolutionary biology and you know when certain chemicals are released in developmental process or whatever so so sometimes you see literature are people positing that somehow it was something like an end we read some type of an estate or and of creatures size-wise much more than the ancient Apes that we find the correct like we don't fight like Frances like you do mountain from The Game of Thrones that enormous giant human being that's a human being plus tall 300-plus pay my point was that like that he exists as a human being also Chris Rock as a human being and he's a very thin very small man like but they're both human beings we don't find that when you're looking at things like Neanderthal or were you looking at ain't you find much more uniformity is that correct I'll give you one example so is a head taller than then Lucy Lucy and her skeleton was found now this was the only skeleton a few years ago a team announced the discovery of another skeleton of Lucy species it's a male it's a lot bigger than Lucy they call it a fart word for Bingo females or is it just a different population or is that just you know just a difference in in the normal range for than a population you know like you have short people and tall people are how much difference is it between Lucy and this other one I don't know I wish I'd left the shop before we talk cuz I love to give you a number but it it the big guy is substantially taller and bigger than the skeletons 3.6 million years old at that Lucy Lennox 3.2 on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

that one of the reasons why was tree with Summerset skepticism because clearly some sort of a primate and that you put all the stuff together and reconstruct the skull and me what is the controversy the controversy is a member of human family and you get further back in time and the things that remember the Human family become more subtle like these canine teeth or devil is another one but you know there's a great deal of skepticism about this and I'm almost in some people this this almost like me a listing for you that you can really ever know that that's been one of our tea as a member of the Human family is with a lot of outside people who have been endorsed what the research team that's in a whether it's a direct ancestor or like you know it one of your extinct and uncle the arguments that the discovery team has made about what it reveals about the last common ancestor of humans and apes and for example we were talking before about about this model of a chimp like common ancestor of humans and and African apes and the our team was spent 15 years before they announced the world believe and strangles the argued that the Skeleton shows you that the common ancestor of humans and the African Apes was it's not like it's not nowhere near as everyone thought because there's no is indeed a member of the Human family they said they placed it correctly but they are not yet convinced that it it it it it it falsifies this idea of a chip like answer yeah their argument would be well sure in the ways that are already may have still descended from this template ancestor but you know about these two adaptations that sort of erase those from its Anatomy huge package of a whole series of paper about Callahan the foot they now that the scalp there was a lot of father there for debate and disagreement and that's what's been happening for the last 10 years now when they they talk about a chimp ancestor a chimp like an ancestor is this just because chimps are around we know genetically that were at least closely related to Champs this was just presumed and is it possible that there was that all the way back like from the beginning that our ancestors were bipedal many people would say if we go back if we somehow found something that was 12 million years old was bipedal okay okay so one problem is that they split between humans and in and Champs it's probably not that overtook your at 12 million you're probably somewhere before the huge once upon a time there was a split between humans and chimps so if you go back far enough to find a champ or something like a champ you'll feel find an ancestor of a drive guess who's really a monkey wrench into this whole idea of what we that was what what was great material but you don't they don't forget the skeleton and say Here's a physical description of the skeleton go ahead and make up your own minds they presented it and it said here is a skeleton and this is why you're wrong and you're wrong in your on your eyes so they was Riley to the mode of presentation but website and told them they're all kind of barking up the wrong tree there was there was a lot of consternation about that episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

you feel people in exactly what we're talking about so we're talking about a skeleton that was discovered that is 1.2 million years older than Lucy is 4 million years old the oldest known human relative members of the Human family that are older but the thing is they're much more fragmentary they're not anywhere near the complete like another found by the same team that found the scouts were talking about that's in a piece that would like a toe bone a few other broken elements of the skeleton how much more fragmentary some teeth and then there's about 6 million years old there are some things that are older what is the scientific controversy do you think it's is it based on real skepticism or is Eagle involved in this like you're laughing there's a lot of Hugo there's a lot of disbelief Because the skeleton was so surprising a lot of ways and so contrary to the predictions that many people inside made that it was kind of like a exploding for a lot of people let me know if we could go back and look at it this thing our species name is ardipithecus ramidus that's got a mouthful party is the individual skeleton that they found his best individual like like your joke you're the individual and your species what is it has upright posture so it's standing up so this is a creature that was in the trees you know clearly climbing but it also appears to be upright walking with the supposed it look like a modern-day poor does it look like you know something we've never seen before and so the surprising thing about already is it's actually quite different than the living Apes so walks upright Dan but it's a arm but yeah that was a surprise at least was to me and I think that's got to be some of the researchers and about these kind of surprises that appear after the fact will that that was one because the bones are broken. These guys on this research team you're not there and then you calculate Adelaide delayed bombshell if you will chimps have longer arms so is this like does it have almost equal length arms and legs like put a photo of it up here and I'm getting a chance to take a look at us fascinating so it has long legs almost like a person but longer arms than we do indeed. The arms are too short so the surprising part was that a didn't walk at all on its Knuckles being it that it was Dad told ya so so the humans are we come from the African Apes that's clear from genetics has been clear for a long time the two main groups of African Apes there's gorillas and there's chips that was in those it in chips also includes a better speech about a product called bonobos and then within that was just like the bait about divide them into something you know I don't worry about that for now human ancestors did it well so we are evolved from Anoka walking ancestor aminos even cover story in nature that the headline was almost at the people get out of his suit specialize in these things say that there's like no hint of knuckle walking around but also it has no Vestige of a knuckle walking ancestry but otherwise there's no electricity Jewel Anatomy that would suggest it that it is very early days very early days of other species evolution. Minnesota bait about just how long ago the last common ancestor of humans and chimps lived it's probably at least you know anywhere from 1.5 million years before Hardy to Reno some estimates put it even further back than that so another school party but it just all the stuff it disappeared by the time you got in that species but knuckle walking as An ancestry episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

where we are is is what the hell it's it's Friday and it looks what is leaning towards George's leading towards by it's basically over for for trunk if you look at it that you don't see a lot of avenues for Success on on this one amoeba Pennsylvania or they're still saying rightly so it's too close to call 8000 some-odd military absentee ballots count the assumption would be just like those would be for Trump to safely assume a lot of mail in ballots and in the Philadelphia area or Allegheny will be providing but they have to go through that process now that Pennsylvania isn't interested again there's a lot of people that are that are getting very pissy about Trump's attitude toward this whole thing and could he be more eloquently just shut the f****** and let the system work right let his legal team to do what they're supposed to do and what they're entitled to do and just say you know we just have to work through process will you I cook when she could but he's not going to but Pennsylvania's interesting because that the that the problem up there and maybe there's no f****** fraud you have to it's it's like an investigation right when you do an investigation you have to base it on the right from the very beginning you had a based on facts on something concrete and if you don't you're building a tire investigation potentially on very shaky ground the whole thing comes tumbling down everybody remembers or maybe not the wmd Fiasco you know from Iraq the idea that we got to get in there because one source reporting which got into the reporting Shane and they got reinvented another report and then got you know a self corroborate another reporting before you know it you're confirming all the same information from originally that one source right very shaky so you're not building a invasion of a country on on solid information with Pennsylvania if people are looking at that and going all this to all sorts of s*** going on and it's it is as fraud well you got to step back and get his okay where are the problems now there's a handful of other issues that I think they're legitimate Pennsylvania one of them being this idea that the state supreme court struck invented what the legislative branch in Pennsylvania said about ballots and when you can count the ballots up until what time the postmarking on the ballots and and so that's a legitimate issue that probably or could end up in in a higher court is did the state supreme court Pennsylvania have that right according to the Constitution to just cuz it cuz the State House is about this very thing and if a year ago or not even that is 6 months ago when we knew this pandemic was was a problem when we knew we were going to get unprecedented levels of mail-in vote if the Republican state house and said okay yours when we can start counting those mail-in vote soon as we start receiving how about that so they could have been well ahead and it's both both sides of one side of the other both sides skip the the the truth is always you know we talked about this before it's always somewhere that Center and that's that's true here but anyway Pennsylvania close to call you know this idea that they're there preventing observers from coming in or standing close enough they allow them in but then they were they able to stand close enough to observe anything of any value that should never be in question so they let them in is this all been corroborated you got there was delays in some districts right tummy because counties run these elections in and do some counties do it by the book and others apparently have decided they can do things a little bit differently so some they were not able to get in as far as access goes as you know once the ballot voting started some they weren't able to go in for the pre-vote counting or the voting day counting of these balanced and others they were we go in except maybe 25 feedback that you need campaign observers in there and they have that right to observe the counting of these things and it all comes down to the same issue whether to that or whether it's you know County ballots because discarding balance because a person has died previous to the election it all comes down to the perception of fraud there may not be anything going on in this election in terms of fraud fraud United when it when it when all is said and done but the damage is already done because people perceive it as as possible to receive it as likely or is happening and if you don't have a transparent system setup that is easy to see if you got to look at it and not be told by politicians not be told by election officials or the media that it's it's a it's a good credible system of the voter has to be able to look at the process and say yeah that's fair and transparent if I'm doing I'm not doing surveillance on some Target right and I'm out in the middle of something whether to s*** hole over there it's so you know what the urban center in a developed country I have to have cover for a reason that is plainly obvious by passerbys or by a local authorities are police that Patrol the R O I guess that's why he's there we did not one time where it was overseas we're waiting for it get to the show up and it was it was a port right and a lot busy lot of people coming and going tourists workers Commercial Workers have it, going from this busy port and you know what you didn't have to have a lot of people just hanging out right there a couple of pieces of luggage and baby stroller and a baby work at the baby from and you just stole a baby for you know it's for the good of the country and we requisitioned it we got it we have a baby requisition department down in the basement of the agency know my own baby actually hours Rite waiting theoretically for a boat but obviously pulling surveillance from an observation post and people walking by would like to others or there's some lady with baby you know suitcases cover fraction where the team but they are looking for vehicle in your driveway going to have choke points usually it's at the place of work or it's at your home right but it may be somewhere in between maybe there's a there's an Avenue that's always blocked up maybe there's a turn that they have to come to a complete stop you're looking for that choke point where you can lay out the attack where you control the environment that there's a place in the Philippines that still exist we Skol Ambush alley it was a cut through and went that very many of them and sometimes I was the only one to get from one part of the city to another and what you got in there you know you didn't just hit the gas because you are a host if you got caught up in there and there was an Insurgency going on and so you know Roblox and and local will hit teams that golden Sparrow units are always a concern and so that was that was a joke it was a joke anyway the point was for the attack they showed up one day in construction gear and construction uniform to start digging a trench as a construction team you can look that you drive by go out of building something other digging the trench it's cover for action and so it's the damn they did a bad job of hiding corruption that's what you're saying incredible by just from the voters perspective you can't do s*** like adjust the rules about just because we say we got to change the rules in the state has no connection from that to cover fraction that's what they're there for any move on you don't you don't you don't think about it not to be told you know you have to stop and go see me what are you doing here right it's as evident on the on the face of it how are there not Universal voting rules for each state that are federal how is how is it that different states are allowed to come up with their own rules like like I was reading something about Judge in Georgia they were allowing people who'd made mistakes on their ballots to redo their ballots and they are they called curing the ballots you got that there are some places where you can you can go in you have to request it and vote people did one actually change their vote after the second Biden debate that was a big Google search they were talking about the Google searches for how to change your vote went up some astounding number yeah because you just had and more people vote Kamala Harris I don't think maybe I'm wrong on this but I think we should fact check this but I don't think she held a press conference during the entire campaign only she had one single press conference appearances but I don't think she actually held a press conference during the entire campaign that's astounding but we're in this position that we're in right now in a variety of ways and because of the pandemic go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video 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I saw you I don't think the Pentagon had come out cuz it was actually during the pandemic with a pentagon came out nothing we talked about this last time did we I don't think so but they said they've recovered alien crafts they said we have recovered crafts that are not from this world is that exactly what they said Nevada what is this name the senator from Nevada Aerospace buddy of Harry Reid's can we google is that the Skinwalker Ranch guy no no this is living yeah it doesn't come from the government they think that you know that a tip which is at Advanced aeronautical threat identification program I mean I think the most interesting thing that the government has come out and said yes we did have a we did have an operation within the Pentagon and office within the Pentagon was there to identify unidentified threats right so we get something up in the air and and we can identify it's like a tic tic tac by David fravor anybody wants to is interested in this please listen to him on the Lex fridman podcast cuz I had them on but I had them on with Jeremy Corbell who's the the documentarian behind that Rob is Bob Lazar movie and buy himself a favor and Lacs they get deep into the technical specifications of their aircraft and why he believes that no known aircraft could have ever oper when is and also how it was blocking their tracking devices which is technically it's an act of War but also it show that they it was an it was aware of them that he's very credible extremely good guy talk to him review the footage with him she's walked through a very credible right so that was I was in the Pentagon apparently not funded anymore isn't as an operating office because they probably got some new shades they can't tell you but I just got out there if I can help him he's really slow this time but yeah if you follow the money it's like an investigation right if you if not too much problem I but if you start pulling on those threads around budgets or type of investigation an asshat tracing you know it getting getting bank records is absolutely key if you can you know legally get them during the course of an investigation but with with military operations often times has Thanos budgets for the most interesting operational elements get buried into something else that's just the way it works right and so that's where you maintain secrecy to maintain secrecy but that's obviously we don't identify the thing that's currently classify cuz we'd all end up in in the who's gal but we were looking at some pretty interesting things in the end and it speaks to wear programs are going currently right you look at something recent past you say okay this is where this new development is heading and isn't it it's an interesting conversation to because for people that don't like secrecy and they don't think we should have Secret City for National Security and for the development of things you know like the stealth bomber like a lot of other things that show that we have met military superiority over our enemies it's important Deb secrecy as a secure and safe and and and Lasting Republic without it is no way now and people will say why we should have transparency around everything know you got to draw the line you not over do it right so you want to that's where I was going to get to the ability to protect policy around certain things right with in National Security concerns intelligence Community but it can be used as a weapon you know you can over again overdo it and but if you don't have Security in of the Manhattan Project right now turn to stealing our intellectual property research and development and I mean your most critical information it whether it's operationally important or whether it's just again R&D for development of materials and and that speaks to the strength of your economy and then yes oh yes certain things have to be kept secret protect everything right so I'm just going over classifying and that also creates a problem then so you know trying to strike a balance at the humor in ad ever so you never really get it right I don't think but will this is where people feel like the line when it when it comes to alien spacecrafts and if the government knows and is aware of alien spacecraft and alien technology this is where the line of secrecy and being sworn to oath wear crosses over I need to know for the general public Bob Lazar story story about him working for S4 he was a physicist for Los Alamos labs that's been proven news on the employee list there he also was listed in a newspaper article when he put a jet engine in a Honda that he was a PS4 and says he was hired to back engineer UFOs and says they never could figure out how these things worked and that they were never going to because they really couldn't because they were trying to keep everything secret they couldn't share all this information with the general scientific community and he's like science doesn't work in these containment bubbles you can't compartmentalize science and have only that can these a few small propulsion experts sit around and try to figure this thing out and then they fire and bring new guys in and no one ever gets it. taken out of another Nation right if I'm targeting intelligence from developing some new ballistic missile system or whatever it is propulsion system then off of that desire on the part of Engineers and scientists to have a collaborative community and that's the Chinese do that very well when they target the Chinese Americans working here in the US and in potentially sensitive position you know that idea that we're all working together and I want to wait this isn't this is that just what we should be doing you know we've done my company is done work trying to protect information for companies pharmaceutical companies that is a good example where that the scientists the engineer is the doctors need that free flow in their mind they got to have this free flow in this this this collaborating in the sharing of information let me know you got the other side you know where the the bean counters and security personnel and all that the lifeblood of our company we can't risk losing this information so we got a lock it down to the degree we can those two things don't necessarily co-exist all that well together but you got to try to find some some medium so yeah I think the the fact that the government came out and talked about a tip that was a big step that's a big deal for them do I think that they're hiding you know again I meant don't take it anymore I wouldn't take anything off the table I frankly because I don't know so it would be it would be stupid of me to say no they definitely aren't holding on to some propulsion system that you know isn't of this world or whatever I don't know it I can't say absolutely not but wouldn't you want to know though I was sure yeah yeah but how what are you doing are you grease a few Palms I want to see it just get me to the UFOs show me the UFOs and I'll lie they know that they were their writing it down right now whatever happens happens but it's too bad episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

the two things that I want to talk to you about before we got in here size election in no particular order aliens and George Soros that are very intelligent and some that are very connected say that he's funding a lot antifa rallies and protests and and chaos and that their funding the political campaigns of people that are opposed to putting people in jail that are promoting are quotes social justice and all of these reforms and all of these political movements that seem to be deteriorating the trust in law enforcement and that there's some sort of organized camp by him to do something to destroy the fact the fabric of our democracy government Run by George Soros puts a lot of money into a handful of organizations and that money gets funneled out for various purposes campaigns support organizations with no doubt I think that that he is worldview is is somewhat different than mine but I don't think that Soros is you know running some campaign to take down America think that's why people are so attracted to the ideas because of Batman movies black robe how old is George Soros right he's he's in the home stretch 990 in the homestretch kids of his damn you got a guy that what is that mean he's an easy easy easy for oil an easy target to be in the Koch brothers there's no difference right and just one side lives Koch brothers for trying to take over America and and one side blames Soros so what is that organization Jamie organizations across the globe fighting for freedom of expression accountable government and society that promote Justice and equality will that sounds good stop yourself in the cloak of promoting equality and justice most people are going to push back cuz you don't look like a dick doing a lot of s*** but sometimes it's easier than not and if it's difficult to find that information I'll give you money somewhere else right cuz it's not parents are around any any operation is asking you for a donation of for your money but Soros family funnel that money and makes its way through it's like a Pachinko machine right it's going kids I'll just kicking all over the place. So it's no surprise but it's an easy target for someone who's looking for like one person who's The Puppetmaster was pulling all the strings I everybody loves it's a simplistic way of looking at things and I'm not saying groups that wouldn't piss people off I guess but I know there's more to it this more episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that include the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

we're in a weird place where people that might listen to this someday no one knows who the president right now the election has been went on last night but it hasn't been decided and it might not be decided for three or four days they think that Pennsylvania is the big one and they don't know who's going to win Pennsylvania and if he wins Pennsylvania apparently he went maybe if he wins one other state in Pennsylvania he wins but if he loses Pennsylvania buying ones and be real word do you think your mom's present or something no f****** chance that's a terrible job that seems like they just distort who you are they they they push a narrative they they say things about you that horrible they they do ads where they're just trying to break down your character depends on what they're doing with extraordinary really weird where they're ignoring all of his gaps they're ignoring all of the real legitimate I don't think you can say they're ignoring is gas when you go watch Gaff compilations all the times he forgets what he's talking about they they don't say they don't have this new thing that they've ever had on CNN is where they have a legitimate conversation whether or not he can hang in there for four years forget about eight like how much cognitive decline has this man experience you don't feel that they discuss that different things that would be in large part because they believe they covered that stuff too much in 2016 with Hillary when it came to the emails and deleting 30,000 emails and then the FBI reopening the investigation right before the election and that could have cost her and they've decided their approach this time they decided that Trump is bad and he's a danger to democracy and so they're only going to cover the news that they think is important but the problem with that is then you you open up the door to Fox News Beyonce Why are these are the people covering this they're not covering this because they're biased it's fake news and then these these people are criminals this is all legit this is all happening right now this is real stuff here is Joe Biden stumbling here Joe Biden you know saying things that don't make any sense here's your butt over and over and over again you know you do for me you ain't black all that crazy stuff did not highlighting on for Thursday news for the left in the news for the right to buy a source I think that it's a I think that people aren't on that are bar either feigning ignorance light like people who don't think that there is an inherent bias within news organizations within long-term Legacy news organizations there either like fainting in trout feigning ignorance because it benefits them or they're just flat out like like naive but there's never been this obvious where they just ignoring really hard but you don't want someone to be president if they can't think right right a real clear sign of cognitive decline you don't you're supposed to highlight that like this is part of the news but they already picked him to be the guy running for the Democratic party and they just they just decided to just ignore all that s*** I just go after what you were saying that I'm reading updates now as of now they've called Wisconsin for Biden Arizona has not officially been called but I'm seeing that it's called and if he just wins Nevada and Michigan which he's currently up in that's enough to give him 278 doesn't matter about PA Karl Rove actually was saying on Fox news that this reporting number is not accurate because they have no idea how many people voted right now and how many mail-in ballots or in the early ballots are sitting out there so staying at like 99% or 95% isn't it might not be a good actor number to go off on this for which state enough Trump Administration I think I said they're already filed a lawsuit to stop the counting in Michigan that mean I don't know 100000 Gap with 80s on 80 forklift 16% of the the possible vote out there yeah but what's pissing off Trump though is was pissing off his team is that what they're counting our mail ins and mailings are Democrats way more likely to vote mail-in finding Biden votes in all the states going to find 4000 Biden vote somewhere sure ballot by time I got back it was over and I didn't get counted and did they say why yeah it was like I didn't I didn't sign and date it right or send didn't sign and a trial supposed to sign and date and I was like quite pleased with democracy the fact that they tried to call me to rectify the situation I would have had like do a bunch of stuff and if you know what I need to do but I would like to place a call to be like bro you're both not counting call back or do in a hurry to get your boat and I missed pinewinds Wisconsin Fox News projects limited Trump's chances of reaching 270 electoral votes while so biting won Wisconsin Wisconsin's in so it's kind of over right box go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to 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what do you think about how long you have left on the planet take the s*** yeah I wake up I try to think about that every day like politicians will enter office not make a clock set for like 4 years or whatever the countdown I need to get one of those like a life for like roughly my life expectancy in a countdown by I brought you something for it was scary enough that I now know that I've started a fair bit but I now know I had I had a mental I had a I had a I had like a like a near-death experience mental a near-death experience mental experience even though I was unharmed but my brain so hard thus the minute for the seconds that occurred Jarred my brain so hard that as I studied as I've tried to be curious about study but what happened in my brain its parallels are all found in Ennis discuss that he will discuss near-death experiences a mentally not that I'm not as tenacious as I'd like to be but I my brain got joggled but don't you think that the word a predatory animal that's how big was it 10 ft how big was struck all of us and we looked at a lot of prayers being like that you know a mature brown bear okay so make sure Kodiak brown bears that whole part of the world is known for some of the largest brown bears on Earth the Kodiak brown bear being like a world's biggest barrows is a neighboring Island but at that specific specimen in Autumn amateur animal when you're around something like that where there can be no doubt that you can't get out of the way you can't you can't fight it off you can't you're helpless like it must trigger something in your your mind where you you will you come to grips with the reality of predator and prey that you almost run and you just no way around that you can't there's no there's no rationalizations you can play in your mind when you're confronted with such absolute superiority with the term playing possum obviously so understanding of opossums now is it they're not playing The Conch out stress he's not playing dead he had such an like he had such a stress level that he shuts off I'm like embarrassed to admit but it's instructive to point out that I was playing possum in that moment and I don't mean playing it like a possum to me out we are we're hunting at Honda elk up in a tree and left it for a day-and-a-half all the meat hanging in a tree then we're Camp few miles away from there and went back to retrieve a bat with a few guys to retrieve the meat out of the tree and Baird found it and we are very very aware that this might occur and went up and investigated the area around the tree and determine the bear hadn't found it yet in fact the carcass of the animals laying out far away was untouched in hindsight there's a pile of a bear s*** that have been smeared on the on the ground and then I'm looking at that pile bear shittin than wondering if it had been smeared by a bear's foot or smeared by a boot and I determined that look like I've been smeared by boot which would have been weed smeared the ship when we were hanging thing the tree and then stupidly like sat down to eat lunch and within a couple minutes of sitting down to eat lunch it came in the bear came in and it's it's mouth past 18 inches from my head and I was facing away so I was the last one to see it so you know but he had a pistol he had bear spray but hit in the head with a pair of black diamond trekking poles he'd sat down spray and set his pistol on his pack but then when they like playing possum and all the s*** they have there his instinct is to smack it would attract and pull wow everything you spent all your you know you spent all your time thinking about how you're going to handle this that and the other thing and sometimes it's disappointing that you don't handle stress that well you know I just I don't know I don't know where I went one of our guys got run over by a bear roll down the hill at that moment I snapped out of whatever I was in but I was it shot me down bad I even noticed I even noticed there's a thing that happens to people when they get really cold they enter a sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy mentality when you start to get cold you lose as you start to get really cold like it where you get like where you could be in a hypothermic situation people stop doing that obvious things that you would do to get warm and ice is aware of that as I am as many times as I've experienced I still see it happen to me I still have to snap myself out of it like you just like you're getting cold your getting lethargic you're getting cold more lethargic the cold getting worse and I have to be like you can stop you can step in right now. Is that the remote is still it's like it still doesn't come naturally you know what you talked to who train like you were trained for this kind of stuff that they have to train in a very realistic environment that the trained like keep your head you know just like make good decisions if you walk into like a active car crash scene whatever and there's a severed hand laying on the ground right some people are just going to see that hand and then I can see anything else some people are just going to see chaos they're not going to focus on any particular but like the person to come in and see the hands everything around them like a Sasol that it's like it's just from exposure to that super traumatic stuff not to getting Kohl's traumatic but I do want it when I look at how I respond to things I do catch that is like a mentality to practice and learn it's it's understandable that something like a bear attack would trigger senses and Trigger response that you just a condition for you not eat I don't know how you'd ever get conditioned to a bear attack I don't know that the same island there was some guys some the same island I think it's later that same year of some Cooperative some military guys that happen to be on in there they got attacked by bear and killed it maybe they have the gun out right you are a weird situation to cuz if you guys were relaxed eating lunch with your guards down I was laughing all the middle of saying like I was in the middle of a sentence I'll never forget because someone was laughing about why we're putting some sandwiches together and someone was laughing but why my sandwich look so much nicer than someone else is sandwich and I said if you want I was in the middle of saying if you want a sandwich like this get your own f****** TV but I was never able to finish the sentence by know I was in the middle of saying that when all the sudden the people around me erupted off the ground is the like a landmine have gone off on her nieces because they thought that I didn't see I was looking the other way and it came in running and then I'm relative the most ton of exposure those things my ten-year-old kid doing this year couple times you know is like cool to kind of see his thought process you yeah you've been exposed to a more than 99.999% of the popular those disappointing man we're always Jack in the Box going to do this and I'll do that there was like yeah you know I actually prefer the 44 / 2/3 cuz you know I didn't know if I can't get it done with this 13 you know I got 13 Reasons he doesn't want to charge me with this semi-auto it's like all this like b******* you know it's in like to know so I can pull in the wild and it wasn't a big one it was like 6ft bear but it looked at me in a way that another Bears never looked at me before seen black bears black bears look at you like what are you who are you what's going on can I walk by you like blackberries look at people do in a weird way of the underbrush man the grizzly look to me like this just locked on me and I was like oh s*** like just a different thing I get it it looked at me like I am I eating you am I going to eat you there's a mindset probably that comes from is a mindset that probably comes from just not being challenged shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

I had a conversation once when I was just starting to get into acting I think maybe I just been cast in the news radio I've got brought maybe not even I've been brought in to meet with these producers because they knew I had a martial arts background they want to talk about me doing a martial arts movie the interview did not go very well cuz they were talking about things and movies like all these wild scenes and in their ask me what I like and I I go by like things that are realistic I want I want to see something that I know would work like if if a guy you know jumps up and split kicks to people and knocks him across the room like that doesn't I don't I go I want to see like realistic scenarios where where a person who knows martial arts can go all that that's pretty badass like like Chuck Norris give him all the s*** you want but there's a lot of Chuck Norris movies we had like real realistic fight scenes like Chuck Norris did Lone Wolf McQuade David Carradine there was a killed his dog and then he got pissed that was pushing it too far there was one movie with that where Chuck Norris did that's not the Thin Blue Line is it what is it go to silence a movie where it was a real movie like it wasn't it wasn't just like a karate movie it was like a real movie was a good news like critically was probably 1980s well-liked what year was that movie where is in a bar next to this nice to Josie's by pool table getting ready to karate fight 85 Steven Seagal above the law I f****** love above the law that Steven Seagal movie when he f***** people up in a bar like you believed it jumping Spinning Wheel kick and breaking their arms is like that all that stuff that I buy that I would someday it's like you to do an analysis of director's cut style analysis of the fight scene at the end of Cannonball Run business Steven Seagal walk the dude this was back when he was lean and met him and I met him in a catfish joint in Oxford Mississippi people got with mouthy with him in this movie and it's not a good move that you see and Muay Thai all the time that's real that the Kevin Roth could be doing that right now damn that's a hundred percent legit needed those face all legit that stuff makes sense with this guy's going to swing boom all this s*** this is real this is this is Steven Seagal at his best these are like legit believable fight scenes to teach at a dojo in Japan eat on a keto he was 100% legit and I remember bringing him up in the meeting and I'm bringing this scene up and like that's that's what I want to say I don't want to see s*** that I know won't work and they weren't into it and they were like people don't know that you know I go put that movies and successful move in the guy got upset at me you just didn't want to hear me criticizing his perspective on something that I was an actual expert in GQ asked you to do one of those breakdowns you can just do it here episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that include the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

we wrap this up I mean listen I don't think we're going to no one and then you lost in this podcast I don't want to go to no jail for not voting and me for voting in an irrelevant time tonight but we have the list of the states Michigan Pennsylvania Wisconsin Virginia they don't count the mail-in ballots as they come in so they're counting all the votes from today what you're going to spew pro-trump and then after they count the mail-in votes which scubapro Biden Trump wins Pennsylvania where you still lose the election the map let's see if he were if Trump were to win Pennsylvania and he wins Ohio and he wins Florida see his problem is he's not going to win Wisconsin and Michigan I think he might seek out to 278 if he gets yeah I think it's North Carolina Georgia-Florida Pennsylvania Ohio I think I might get in there but I don't what would that be because you guys are so Wisconsin and Michigan are gone for Biden for sure so it's going to come down to Pennsylvania kind of surprising things float to retirees does Pennsylvania still win the presidency if you went to Arizona plusmein to a Nebraska to was not in the Wind Supreme Court que hacen police repair spraying people at the polls today I didn't look good doesn't look good looks awful it's like God damn it looks are you getting out under the wire I'm getting out tomorrow 6:30 a.m. Slug It Out 2 comes out of the basement climbing to Duke it out with those f****** on body there was only a 4% chance is in that case Biden would need to carry either Nebraska or Maine 2nd congressional district to win and I don't know why those two specifically I'm going to look I actually don't know what happens if it's a tie and I'm going to look now Nancy Pelosi default in the United States a contingent election is the is the procedure used to elect a president or vice president in the event that no candidate for one or both of these officers wins an absolute majority of votes pro-collagen contingent election for the president is decided by a vote of the United States House of Representatives Congress decides full contingent election for the president for the vice president is decided by a vote of the United States Senate Democrats in the house will be president and then the Republicans in the Senate would pick a republican to be vice president to determine the president rather than a bowl from each representative Senators instead casbolt individually for vice-president the contingent election process was first established in Article 2 Section 1 Clause 3 the US Constitution it was subsequently Modified by the twelfth amendment in 1804 the phrase contingent election is not found in the text of the Constitution itself but has been used to describe the procedure since it leaves 1823 indirectly elected 7 to pick them each are pick separately and then it's the Senate depicts the vice president the Senate is Republican right now but in Congress is democratic right now she'd have a Democrat and a Republican it's very likely Biden was Pennsylvania cuz I got to count all the mail in Dallas and they're overwhelmingly gun if if this election and he's got less than 300 electoral votes yet again Trump outperformed the polls he absolutely outperformed the polls cuz all the polls come into today if you just copy and pasted it would've been biding 351 electoral votes that means Trump outperformed the polls yet again it finally went to like to 78 or some s*** can't pull a lever there are there going to be lawsuits where they tried to throw him out till Friday at the earliest the busy dealing with Tuesday's in-person voting so here we are on Tuesday Wednesday Thursday when Pennsylvania prove so-called no excuse absentee mail ballots last fall meaning any voter can request one without siding reason the law didn't allow officials to begin canvassing mail ballots until polls close on Election night according to Lisa Shaffer the executive director of the County Commissioners Association of Pennsylvania by the way if the Democrats immediately blame the voters as if the voters let him down not that he wasn't a good enough candidate cuz it exactly what happened immediately started blaming the voters thank you for all that was a lot of fun in my pleasure you're welcome thank you I appreciate that she'll ugly guy are you good bro in the end on the bright side more people voted than ever rescheduling some stuff but we're going to win this fight through until those Chicago show episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be 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a big enthusiasm Gap so only 46% of Biden supporters strongly support him 66% of trump supporters strongly supportive I'm amazed the 46% of supporters I think 39% of marlyne most of them are just somebody's not Trump the whole mindset at least we've come all this rude it's Kamala is it a sign of a,, for Donald Trump to get banned off Twitter is it that some sort of like principled stand around your main issue like getting banned Twitter Stephen Colbert was asking her about her strong lines of attack against Biden hard-hitting journalism we kind of find a way and we'll have ever heard in my life that's like a produce your laugh when you doing sitcom run through in the past before 2 and I remember Alex Jones saying that evidence that he's a demon and put it in a song Obama's lip I mean is that it's so weird debates and then we make a big deal of it and that becomes the number one as opposed to the substance the policy of what they're discussing that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

tell her I said tell her I said she said I got a suspended license in New York criminals standing up People's Credit sorry you started out selling subprime mortgages substances nice and I don't give a f*** if the person buys the car not me I feel like that's the consumer of Four Loko back when it was the original taking people's 10:40 to white out and get them get deals done you guys try try to not talk over each other on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that include go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

it's a bummer man the Deontay Wilder stuff that's going on right now he's he's released three different excuses the first one was the weight vest of the thing that he was wearing a crazy costume weighed 40 lb apparently Awards legs out the next one was that there's a bunch of people saying that Tyson Fury's gloves weren't attached correctly so the gloves were extended so he was hitting on with the knuckles and the the the glove part was not really attached it was like they was catching I quit the part that supposed to be with the rest not correct not true and easily provable the next when he said egg weights he said he had egg weights and has recently a couple days ago then yesterday there was an article that said that he believes that he was his water was poisoned by his own furniture and Mark Breland was part of that the threw the towel for him who I mean Breland should be thanked Wilder at his Camp until the end of time is other trainer Thursday press conference took it upon himself to certainly make the right call for holding the contest he was Thing by being dismissed and now if we break through the mud for the orderly guessing or utterly baseless accusations about poisoning his own fighter I mean maybe Tyson Fury's fuckingawesome that seems like the simplest explanation for all of this was coming off of multiple year battle with depression and mental illness drinking gut Suicidal Thoughts you talk to my podcast about driving his Ferrari and almost slamming into a bridge he's like I was I was pedal to the metal and I was thinking about slamming into the bridge and they change his mind and it is a slowly worked his way in shape. Healthy again got his mind right again and pulled it back around but when he fought Deontay Wilder the first time his father didn't want him to take the fight is like you're not healthy enough yet you not ready yet and he did his basti fought well but it was a draw by the time they fought the second time he was in Tip-Top condition he'd gone through the camp for the first fight his body was please recover from all the abuse of alcohol and cocaine all the ships he was doing and then he took on the crunk trainer Sugar Hill and then his whole strategy changed he's like the guy does not fight well off the heel off the back foot what's what's moving back and Tyson Fury's f****** enormous and he's huge quite the same way front in the first fight instead Tyson Fury just came right Adam and just clipped him hard and often and I think of you go back to their first fight and you look at how when Tyson Fury got dropped in the 12th Rose like Lazarus and then came back survive and then started winning around right and then I think he realized when that moment all the way to beat this guy's a back I'm up and then he took that strategy Sugar Hill of course like Kronk legendary aggressive attack shoot the Box delete to shoot the box of boxing right you think about aggressive attack and he employed that sort of attacking strategy he can play that game show fight right exactly was much better but so you suggest away and he was always a double jab away so he was long enough or he was outside of anything that while they're going to put together with rule one to kind of guy or you know your water will just come lunging in with the punch and he was good enough to back him up and then steer him in and I was talking about this Eugene bareman who's the one who gets on me cuz I'm always promoting City kickboxing up but it's like he's a master a guy who trained Fighters at to a high degree but has an idea about what the game is missing how to fill that Gap and they are big Believers in fainting they make a point AutoZone is the very best version of that but like they've got good by Brad Brad Vidal Sheen young Eugene this what they believe is that what has been missing for a long time and MMA striking is effective thinking thinking of painting and that they do Shadow Boxing drills for hours just on fainting no punches thrown just thinking just to set it all up because they basically said you look at the way which lot of American and European Strikers 3 it's a lot of sit down and throw combinations what you could do but they don't really believe that's the best way to do it the best Gap to fill is that fiery to circle the point here is excellent he is such a brilliant painter and he had Deontay Wilder dead to rights over and over and over again but she didn't we do the first time around and so in all these excuses about my printer poison man it's like it's like dropped with the first punch she was like point of the back of his head and he was upset and you can say it's like it's really weird it's really weird when you see a guy who's so utterly dominant and who has what Teddy Atlas calls the great eraser that right hand cuz it really is it erases all your problems you f***** up a little bit what the f*** hit on the forehead Ortiz's down penalties is not some chump is a Cuban boxer you know who has great pedigree one shots at his ass down that's right hands and all of boxing full on power punchers though I don't know if he's got the full repertoire like it's his uppercut was right hand as good as straight I don't know that it is just think I like Earnie Shavers right highlights on YouTube and then you will literally laugh at what he does they got hit my Shavers and then they felt it in the in the roof of the foot the other foot what the f*** is that there's a bunch of them has always been a bunch of them in boxing has been a bunch of them like you seem in the gym and then you see guys like remember Michael McDonald when he was a kid when he's coming up skinny looks like a little boy knock people in another dimension you like what this is crazy like Wilder Deontay before Tyson Fury beat him it only got the decision to X Tyson Fury and Dominic Brazil was that what was knocked out in the first round when was in the first fight he beaten by decision right and so he had been used and he's gotten so confident and towards the end of his career is a photo of him walking to the fight or walking through Casino in Vegas it's amazing photos wearing fur coat with an open shirt holding his wife's hand and he just looks like the ultimate heavyweight champ in the world but you seem like that is what I want from a heavyweight champ just top of the game just wearing these crazy sunglasses fully shredded fur coat holding his wife and like that it. The heavyweight champ Connor has that in his head of Deontay Wilder Fighter photos like getting ready for a fight of all did so just aggressively confident just on top of the world how do you do that one where he's got no shirt on for the first and second even better I mean I'm a fan of his I really am a human being I really enjoyed talking to him stories any was delivery guy for like was it Budweiser or something like that or Coca-Cola some liquid and he was like look I got to make some f****** money and he knew he was going to be able to play in a college sport or the professional for that a college background she's like I might get into boxing a year-and-a-half in wins a bronze medal in the Olympics like what the fuc billion human power the nobility of trying to do that for your daughter is one thing you got like five or six of them and I just had a kid about 18 months ago I didn't understand it when I would watch but like I don't think he's happier than when he's with his children and it's not even does not even a close second doting family man is really important he's made his excuses because as a person rewind he was Mark doesn't have the kind of relationship with him that he can call him I understand his his his manager Jeff his manager was the one who brought in Breland years ago as I can get somebody here who's like a high-level trainer and brought him in and it worked for a time anyway but. He was like do people sleep with your right hand goes what about your left hand goes I want you keep people distance use a jab use a hook goes I would concentrate on just working that left hand because that would fix so many of his problems cuz his left hand is just like here comes the right here comes the right Bloom and he'll throw Jabs but you're not terrified of it the way you're terrified of Roy Jones left hand episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st so to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

sing we could be no motherfuker Justin gaethje is a f****** animal Savage and he just closed a lot of leg kicks to man he had a lot of leg kicks that would mean I don't know how many of those you can eat from Justin maybe he had like five or six more in the tank for a three-year on E but he closed the Gap and then one finishing the triangle off of his back may God damn serious question about this cuz I went through it a couple times so from the moment he got kicked in the initiates the takedowns was a Kik that you tried the first round heated up ahead inside single didn't work 2nd right right off a double from the outside light kit for Frozen inside like your cousin's the inside single didn't work so he goes to the double it's 22 seconds from that till the finish so 22 seconds apart 20 seconds later you're unconscious I mean this is my question to you is that the best back take you've ever seen an anime because what he does is when gaethje is sprawling in this contest if you touch a sprawling you sprawling interning who doesn't get pushed into the fence he was very diligent about that in the Alvarez and the Geisha fights you can go back and you can watch it so in this fight when you was you see the level change that khabib hits you see automatically gaethje turn cuz I want to get turn that direction but what he does is he actually scoot under him pulls him up and then with his head post them over get the hands to plant the devil is over he doesn't care about it anymore now he just wants to type waist and from the tight waist he's holding his elbows aren't flared they're tight here right ladies tea racing inside at that point you have created if your Justin gaethje putting your hands you created a stable structure for this guy to mount plus if you want to skip to the fence like stand he can control the ascent so he goes double turns pushes hands to the Matt forces gaethje down and then with his Gable grip then keeps it there and then replaces it with the hooks and then turned into had turned it to a fake not a real Joe Rogan a fake head and arm triangle attempt Justin gaethje gets his elbows away from his body then he chair sets to occupy the space then throws a leg over and then sits back and takes mercy upon him as we learn later from than the Cormier rather than are more him from his mom's I'm just going to try and do you cuz that's the merciful what is opponents he is Jon Jones to me is the most accomplished while we've ever seen like the the things accumulate over time no one is as Flawless as khabib nurmagomedov not even close is early 2011 and from then on has fought more fights as championship fights than he has other fights so he's the most accomplished when's the title earliest youngest guy to ever win the title in the UFC beats Mauricio Shogun Hua who's a legend and then the way he dominates all these other Fighters up until you get to Alexander Gustafsson you can make the argument that he had a similar career you can make the argument like if you look at what he did John didn't lose any rounds, smashing people you literally did the Rashad Evans Rampage Jackson fought up until the Gustafson fight but the gossips in fight then you have to say well how much slack do you give him for admittedly not training because it was a really close fight he pulls it out in the championship round even though he's out of shape even though you talk to Greg Jackson he didn't train for that fight didn't f****** train like barely worked out but definitely didn't go through a training camp still managed to beat won the best guys in division after getting take it down for the first time in his career then goes on a tear right beats the way he beat. call me in the first fight took him down like who the f*** take Daniel Cormier down right and then you look at me the second fight even though it was ruled a no-contest we know what the fuk happened he had kicked him and stopped him you know it was spectacular you look at what John has done then you have to take into account the things that didn't go that well we haven't seen those from khabib yet you have to take into account the fight like Thiago Santos right after it goes to a split decision real clue real close fight so those fights haven't happened with khabib yet and we don't know if they ever could we don't know right like right now would you see Flawless Victory after flowers Victory you can maybe make the argument that could be blocked two rounds entire career maybe the second round against Justin or Chris Brown brother or maybe first-round brother gets Justin and maybe the third round with Connor that's it understand what that means in sports field with a scientific measurement for say who gets cut the most or something but in a sport built on unpredictability on violence to wrestling to get away from all of that enlarged in large part and then to never experienced that is like it is shocking Beyond description I don't never ever but you know my best friend or anything but I just don't that is the best total resume I've ever seen all the converse everything that happens right now is just recency bias and can be retired and his father died and was incredibly sad and like because when you have your moment all of the Condor warm is going to turn and then he's going to get his today at this moment retire come outside now he wants my head is spinning a little bit that's all right very moral ethical person who doesn't drink he doesn't party doesn't do anything just trains he's always in phenomenal shape he takes every fight incredibly serious he's never been out of shape he's never been fat is never-ending is Miss wait a couple of times earlier in his career he got dialed-in he's he's just so dedicated where is John is a wild man vs. wild for the night buddy that ain't the only thing he didn't try for still beat you and I'm like I don't think he's lying I'm in the stories I've heard I don't want to repeat them because I cannot verify them but I've heard stories like if y'all think that was the one fight he just going to take that pump the brakes this time no b**** when you maintained I've been training as a family affair from adolescence right for the long part of his life and he is so gifted that he can take time off in the game is so developed that people aren't going to make warp speed development in his absence until they got a lil bit better every time we took a little time off like that my daughter first fight with the corkscrew punch card there in the game changes rapidly super fast 2 years people will not be doing the same kinds of things do the same degree that you now the calf kick and it's explosion of episode of an obvious example of that John was doing things like not training teen camps that's something only Elite boxers do because they've been doing this since they were five six years old and they can take the time to not necessary do that whereas most MMA fighters are like I'ma I'ma everyday martial artist I just ramp it up he would do nothing and then something and still go out there and be world f****** champions in what at the time was the UFC's Marquis division that is out of this f****** world Bonkers I'm going to trade I'm going to beat you as a part-time guy what you just couldn't wrap your head around it I wonder if maybe there's some benefits of benefit to that and that he's not getting beat up he's not getting his joints wrecked and you know there's probably a launch yeah it's a real question of like what is what's the best way to approach it episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 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I love the fight by the way that you said that you don't modulate who you bring on so I let me let me share my own personal experience I was just contacted a few days ago and if she's listening now I'm sorry if I haven't responded yet I will I was contacted by a very famous former pornstar I won't mention her name I didn't actually know her work but I have since gone and done my research on her and purposes anyway so she reached out to me said hey would you come on my show you know I'm a fan. If I were the typical academic I would be doing all sorts of machinations in my head and calculations while is it good for my brand to be speaking to a pornstar doesn't it make me look less professorial and actually I never even entered my mind I saw that you had a sufficiently large platform that she was certainly an intelligent person and I'm very like reply to her and say hey let's let's do it so and I think that comes across with you there's no pretense let's just sit down and have conversations with interesting people of course in my case my show is infinitely smaller than yours but it's been successful within my Sphere for I think similar reasons to why yours has been so successful even the topic of p*** but yet clearly a lot of people are watching it and then a good example and I don't mean to throw this guy into the buses the journalist from The New Yorker who unfortunately was on a zoom call recently and thought he had muted his video and did not and why was why was at work on the zoom call the side and start masturbating didn't know this because first of all because I masterbate I know that's going to sound crazy but I do I know there are many men who masturbate I masturbated I'm going to be honest with you I am a lifelong masturbator I think I discovered it in my teenage years and I've been an avid pursuer of it ever since it's a Clarity device but it's also I mean in terms of like when you get horny get very confused like a man horny have one thing on their mind and it's it's a good tool to eliminate that one thing from your mind you can look up you don't want to be fixated by something if you're hungry you should eat you know you don't want to be just like starving all day just eat if you sort of want to pretend that we're not doing that it's very strangely intellectually we all know that we do it with everyone knows we do it everyone does it pretty much everyone does it but when you discuss it people like they roll their eyes it's not a shame it's a very strange things we have biological needs and if you don't attend of these biological needs I believe that you can have very confusing motives and people that are excessively horny they they're distracted to Seinfeld references what I was talking about how you been allies cultural products including you know sitcom themes via an evolutionary lens and so I take the example of the classic episode from Seinfeld master of my domain right where and so the first thing you might remember is that that y'all got three male characters in one female one they all recognize that she has to put in more money into the into the pot because it isn't as difficult for women to resist their Master masturbatory urgent so that was the first one then as each one was losing the bet meaning they were succumbing to their masturbatory urges it's interesting to look at what was the trigger that cause them to lose their beds the case of Cramer it's because he is seeing a gorgeous young woman scantily clad doing all sorts of sexy positions as she's exercising so what triggered him to masturbate was the visual imagery whereas when it seemed to Elaine losing the bet it's because she fantasized about becoming the long-term partner the wife of John F Kennedy jr. right meeting over the Cabana Boy Who is 18 years old with a nice ass and so that's spoke to the differences in terms of the content of the fantasies of men and women and then the second point I want to make that is also from Seinfeld is there is an episode where George decides to forego sex and by freeing his mind from having to focus on sex he starts learning a whole bunch of new languages and a solvent chemistry problem because 99% of his brain is no longer focused on you know sex and so there you go yeah that's that's a real issue with people but again discussing p*** or it especially having a conversation with someone who participates in the actual production and acting in Pasay acting with air quotes it's it's forbidden it's Tabu it's it's it's you you get looked down upon some very bizarre reason it probably has to do with our puritanical shame even if it's worth repeating is probably many years ago that we discussed it so in in in one of my other books I talked about the evolutionary explanation of pornography and I specifically directed at heterosexual males so typically you might think that because men are interested in sleeping with that pornography is going to have one man sleeping with multiple women in a particular scene right and that's called polygyny one man many women wear as Ashley the study has been done scientific study it turns out that there's a lot more what's called in p*** polyandry is one woman with multiple men so why is it that p*** directed to heterosexual men has a lot more jeans with one woman having sex with multiple men and their it turns out that the explanation comes from something called sperm competition hypothesis the idea being that men and actually males and many species get a rise literally and seeing other men having sex with example when you are trying to get a stud that's a horse or a dog to mate with a female you often will make him watch another male having sex and that will the rise out of him and so there's some really interesting scientific Ways by which you could study a product like pornography which of course is one of the most you know the products that we spend the most money on an episode of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll 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are there are there any guests that you've yet to have that would be sort of here are my top three I know you recently had Kanye West what are some people that you think sort of are you know you must have them before this whole ride ends his as an artist I think he's a brilliant musician but I also think that because of his mean it's he's been diagnosed as being bipolar or whatever you want to say whatever mental issues he he's had I think they contribute in some ways to his art cuz he's so prolific his mind is going in a million different directions all at once in someone who is like that but very different course is Elon Musk his mind is going a million different directions all at the same time as well and he is his ability to focus on so many different subjects simultaneously is stunning Kanye's the same way but in a different realm write his focus is on design and on rap and on now religion I mean he's become very religious and and even politics but he's very misunderstood Kanye's a very massage good person and I think that he doesn't do himself any service by calling himself a genius and and all the all the that he has financial success and for whatever reason those put some people are they don't put me off but they did they do put some people off but I understand why he doesn't understand that he's he's kind of looking to a that he's on the right path like eat like these are markers of success but he could point to like you can say he's an idiot you can say all these different things but hate looking always accomplished look at what he's done and if you listen to his music I mean he's brilliant there's no doubt about he's brilliant he's insanely prolific and his stuff is great he's never put out a Bad album they're all great and he's married to an Armenian woman as is your good friend got shot that's the commonality that we both share an episode of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that include the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify photos of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that include the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

I wanted to ask you about this did you feel physically in danger when that was happening because that was such a gigantic moment and so terrifying for most Americans that we're now sure that the government had access to our emails and our phone records and it was all broken by by you and Snowden and I wondered like we we worried for your safety I mean for one thing you know at the time we were living in a part of Rio that was very isolated we were giving literally on a mountain in the middle of the woods and I know I had with me at all times physically on my person 14 or 15 thumb drives that contained hundreds of thousands if not more I've never Quantified it on purpose you know of the most sensitive documents possessed by the most powerful government on the planet the most secretive agency within that government and I would carry them on my person at all times you know I would go to the supermarket and just start laughing because on my back would be a backpack filled with you know top secret CIA and NSA documents and obviously there were a lot of people who wanted to get their hands on those documents not just the US government to take them back or they realized it from point to that would be impossible but other governments non-government actors but then on top of that Marcus it was affecting diplomatic relations so there was obviously a big big interest in a lot of intelligence agencies around the world and what I was doing and you know felt monitored all the time because I was thinking it would not like the kind of paranoid feeling of monitoring but the actual being monitored is has been confirmed by in a lot of different ways Chilean implicitly bold and public and private making clear that if I left Brazil there was a good chance that they would try and arrest me I mean remember how extreme they were with Snowden they brought down the plane of the president of Bolivia when he was coming back from Moscow on the suspicion that he might have been taking them in the course he wasn't but that's how extreme they were so I had to Brazil for about 10 months and didn't feel safe leaving the apartment and shows up at any airport we're going to arrest him in the Brazilian government was super protective of us because a lot of it snowed in reporting revealed how the NSA and the UK and Canada were spying on Brazilian institutions Brazilian oil companies the president of Brazil do the population in Brazil just reporting was looked at very favorably and so the government to send it offered a lot of protection so I just feel very safe and Brazil well it's very nice that you felt safe and Brazil it's very nice that they were protecting you do they have a history of modern there people the same way the United States us will show you as a reference earlier but relevant to the US and they were building the first democracy in Latin America and a word steadfastly attempting to remain neutral in the endless Soviet Union u.s. Cold War but in 1863 and 1864 they had this kind of Center that president that the US. Was becoming a little too close to Moscow a little bit to social SE nothing communist but just very kind of mild reforms like rent control in Land Reform and to try and assuage the really brutal income inequality that is played the country forever and so the US government Force Under John Kennedy and then under Lyndon Johnson work with right-wing Brazilian generals to overthrow that democratically-elected government by only and they imposed military dictatorship for the next 21 years of which the current Brazilian president jair bolsonaro was apart as an army captain in those are really dark days you know for murdered journalists were killed and with the help of the CIA MI5 and MI6 in the UK until a lot of that kind of indoors that relationship between the CIA in and the Brazilian government put soup 1985 on it democratized it's kind of read it's become once again at model of a liberal democracy so no I don't know government in the world is obsessed with spying on the world like the u.s. is dark underbelly like there is definitely you know uses the dark arts to maintain control over the population when you hit send when you finally released when you when you put that story out what was the feeling like was there ever a oshit what have I done moment know there's probably snowed in and I wasn't sleeping at all I mean obviously I knew it was you no good going to be one of the biggest stories of that generation if not the biggest and I like writing about the aggressive about monitoring our private Communications in our private activities domestically than either the law permitted or any new but it was very difficult to sound that alarm because everything was done behind a wall of secrecy and so when I finally got these documents in my hand is like the dream right that's why you going to journalism especially for me to be able to show the world that everything was so much more extreme than even I thought that I just wanted to get them out in the world as possible like I just felt like the world deserve to see these documents and also you know I was so inspired by by by Snowden I mean you've talked to him I think twice now so you know like pretty much gamble we thought did it because he believed in the cause like that was not the b******* reason like not the movie stripper eating like that was his genuine which shocked me right there was no other motive and so I just felt I owed him such a duty and kind of inspired by his example I thought you know if he's willing to go to prison for the rest of his life adopted this trench bunker mentality like we're in this together and we are going to fight everybody and that became the energy much more and they're kind of drowned out the fears that probably wear rationale for us to have I felt very honored and very very fortunate to be able to talk to him and I think he's a very Noble person unusually Noble and you in long-form conversations if if there was any hint of something different I really it would have leaked out he really is that guy and I think history when we look upon this case and me the documentary was pretty excellent that showed all the the moments leading up to you releasing the story I think these conversations with him I thought they're just feel very fortunate to have that platform where he's willing to come on and talk for hours at a time and express his thoughts on just on spying in general National Security issues and all these situations that he faced up to and now currently because of that he's it's it's a it's a variant it's embarrassing that this is the world that we live in this is the country that we live in that that man who I really genuinely believe is a hero is now a Russian citizen forever yeah I mean hopefully there's an opportunity call the bazaar vindictive impulses that Trump has in the fact bed by complete coincidence the people who want snowed in to be in Russia forever or rot in prison happened to be Trump's enemies as well that I'm hoping There's an opportunity to persuade Trump after the election particularly if he loses but even if he doesn't that he should follow through on what he's now twice bizarrely raised on his own which was the prospect of pardoning if it means probably my top priority in the world at the moment and the reason is is what you just said which is you know we're so accustomed to people doing things for just misguided reasons corrupted reasons people lying and deceiving about why they're doing things about presenting a false version of who they are and that's a you know you talked to him for those hours when I got to Hong Kong you know before becoming a journalist I was a litigator in Manhattan and I use those skills unite I mean I kind of creed a little mini Guantanamo where I just like put him in front of me and just crush them for 8 hours straight three different without letting even have a glass of water or go to the bathroom because I really wanted to know what was actually motivating him who was this person to whom I was about to tie myself in my reputation and credibility early and he really is somebody who like to think about it too is like that's so amazing about it is that often times people who leaked Secrets or who become a source that you know wants to expose secrets and are willing to go to prison and often kind of f***** up people right there like alienated from society they feel persecuted and mistreated they don't have much going on in their lives and their don't feel like they have a lot to rest note it was exactly the opposite you know he had up a time does incredibly beautiful and Brilliant girlfriend who today is his wife they have been together for years and in order to do what he did he had to deceive her he had to leave the country and not tell her what he was doing because he wanted to make certain that when the government knock on her door she can truthfully say she knew nothing about it because he knew they would go out to her if if if they could hire to it will drop out but had taught himself he's really coveted skills Suite a great career ahead of a mother and a father to both love him very stable home life he had none of those traits you know that typically are used to demonize people who do this the person or one of the people certainly I admire most in this world in all the time I've lived and would still unbelievable you know people always say to me oh poor Snowden you know he's trapped in Russia he can't come home he's facing multiple felony charges he's been separated from his true but like I also always say that he's the person who I know in this world who when he puts his head down on his pillow at night he falls asleep most easily because there's something about knowing that you you face this dangerous choice and you chose the right thing I mean in Hong Kong as I said we were never I was never sleeping my colleague or an hour or two with the aid of very strong sleep narcotics and I don't even have a little coffee but that's what that you know clean conscience does to a person even with a clean conscience I just don't understand the weight of the stress that he was under how I don't understand how he could be so calm we knew we had no idea what Hong Kong authorities knew we were waiting I was always waiting for the door to be kicked in any moment you know and and for him at least if not the rest of us you know me and Laura to be taken away and like I said in the whole time was that there was as excited as I was the one thing that was kind of a Dark Cloud that hovers over all the time was up this person if I had now become connected I was certain that any moment he was going to be in the hands of the US government and the next time I would see him would be on television in orange jumpsuit and shackles and a courtroom getting ready to be sentenced to like 50 years in prison in one of those hellholes WS specializes in will you spend 23 and 1/2 hours a day alone in your cell and you have 30-day 30 minutes a 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there's so many folks that are dependent upon these large institutions weather newspapers or television shows or whatever it is and they can't freely Express their concern with the way things are going because in many people's eyes that's insignificant compared to get Donald Trump out of office so everything everything goes by the wayside get Donald Trump out of office that's that that's that's number one after that we can channels of the things but whatever you have to do to get Donald Trump out of office save democracy some of that someone actually sent me a message someone I really like and they sent me a message saying that they could get me an interview but they want me to vote for Joe Biden come on Save democracy this is the the the the message that I got and I was looking at this message on my computer what the f*** is going on snipping wires and disconnecting trains of thought like what the f*** is happening it's but guys like you guys like Matt Taibbi there's there's a few people out there they're sticking your neck out and it gives me hope it gives me hope that people are listening to you and people reading your words and people are paying attention and I know hopefully it's resonating and hopefully somebody people are doing this or realizing we shame but they're part of this really disgraceful act that they're part of this cowardly way of and if not calling out all this s*** and if Joe Biden does get in office and they do see it declining even further and sliding even further down this disgusting Trend that we find ourselves on right now I hope they realize the error of their ways but by then it might be a good but they said here's the here's the problem here's what's worrying me the most which is you know you instinctively that is something that you can kind of put your hope in right is to say election in a week or days and all the polls suggest by most likely to win in one's Trump is out of the way a lot of this insanity is going to disappear and things are going to kind of return to some degree of normalcy and here's why I don't think that's true so many institutions are profiting I don't just mean financially but in terms of power and control from elevating fear levels over right-wing fascism over white supremacist domestic terrorism call Ed and obviously mean it's not doesn't take a lot of insight to observe that historically the way you consolidate your powers you can put people in fear you know during the Cold War you make everybody fear that the Russians and the Communists are coming to take away your right to believe in God and everybody says you know buildup of nuclear Arsenal and don't use the money for our schools in our communities use it for you know the greatest military in the world and spy on everybody and whatever you need to do to defeat this existential threat to do it after 9/11 that was the strategy of the bush-cheney administration it's the way they consolidate a lot of power by elevating people's 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not that it's not true there's no it's not what goes not a kernel of Truth with our people doing that inflate it wildly so that any questioning of Joe Biden even with Trump out of the picture is still going to be depicted as you know endangering American Liberty is helping fascism as serving the agenda of the Kremlin and the need for censorship as a result is going to be accepted by more people cuz of that fear that these media outlets in government institutions with whom they partner are going to be still instilling and people for their own benefit for their own name episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st to go to be available everywhere but only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking go down low sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st 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you don't hear a f****** peep about the revelations that are coming out of this laptop will wear it ever came from Jamie actually had a really good point I want to bring them to you to see if this is possible I've heard of people being able to hack into an iCloud account from time to time and if you had that ability to have the account hacked you would need to clone it to a computer to Denbigh able to decipher this material and then turn it into somewhere cuz you need to can't say you hack the iPod account is that possible that then they didn't put it on a MacBook turn it in and look what's on this MacBook but they do have emails you know there were millions of documents we had a high degree of confidence and their authenticity because we verified a lot of them use your intuition you examine them from a kind of metadata perspective to see if there's indicia of forgery or alteration but you can never prove the negative that none of the documents has been altered or forged by snow dinner by somebody else right like you just don't know for sure with 100% certainty until published and the way that you ultimately find out for sure is if you publish that first report and the people that you're reporting about don't come back and say what the f*** are you talking about that's not a real document we didn't ever do that that's not that's forged and it was when the NSA didn't say that did the series of expose where my source hat hacked the telephones of the highest and most powerful officials in Brazil in the bolsonaro government in gave me the text conversations that they were having it revealed a lot of corruption same thing of course those people wouldn't verify or confirm to me that they were real before I publish they wanted me to be endowed and then once we publish and they didn't say Barcelona Biden has never denied either that the conversations are real or that Hunter actually brought his laptop to that Delaware repair store and you know we've submitted questions I've submitted questions to the Biden campaign and 200 Biden asking that question specifically but I want the public to believe they just lied about that they just made that up there was never any evidence that Russia had the slightest thing to do with it you don't answer your question the Providence is a little unclear like that is kind of a bizarre story right that like underbite and brought in three laptops never bothered to pick them up the store owner out of curiosity looked in them once no one picked them up so that there was all this evidence of corruption and gave it to the FBI and Rudy Giuliani I'm kind of skeptical no Hunter never has been to that store in his life that's got complete Lion in, it's because it's probably true but it's definitely true that these documents are authentic it sounds like a crazy thing to do until you factor in smoking crack once you factor it is a factor and when you're smoking crack you leave laptops at repair shops in you don't pay for him it seems normal right right and yes that's the least of what you do like if you're like this is why I don't think I've ever been disgusted with my colleagues in my profession as I have in the last 3 weeks because of about where material comes from if it's a authentic and be newsworthy for example in 2016 somebody mailed a copy of Donald Trump's have a copy of Donald Trump's tax returns to the New York Times just dropped in the mail and send it to their Newsroom they got it to this day they have no idea who sent it to them let alone what the motives of that person was were or what they had to do to get them today can commit crime today Act was it the Russians was it are on the New York Times has no idea but they'd of course they reported on the contents as they should because that's a journalist do and when asked when the lead reporter his 1/2 pulitzer's with how can you report on the document when you don't even know who gave it to you or what their motives were he said what I would say and what all journalists should say which is I don't give a s*** about the sources motives sometimes you get great documents Vengeance on somebody they feel like deepthroat leaked about the Nixon Administration to The Washington Post because he was no bolts but because he was the director of the FBI so that this idea that journalists from Russia therefore we should report it as a complete corruption but the reality everyone knows the reality I work in journalism I have you know lots of colleagues that I work with I have tons of friends and every news Outlet up the East and up and down the East Coast from New York to Washington on the west coast the reason isn't because they're all desperate for Trump to lose that's the reality they all want to win so they don't want to report any information or any stories that might help Biden lose in part because they want Biden to win but also because in their Social Circles everybody essentially is anti Trump and provide in and they don't want to spend four years being accused of having helped Trump won like they were in 2016 when they reported on those emails that released by Wikileaks and it's just fear they don't want to be yelled at they don't want to be scorned in their Social Circles and so they're willing to abdicate their journalistic function which is reporting on one of the most powerful people in the world and Joe Biden in part because they want to manipulate and Tinker with the election using journalism but in much bigger part they're scared of being yelled at on Twitter it's f****** pathetic and it's going to ruin people's faith in journalism for a long time even more so than an hour and already has ruined for good reason I now defend people who say fake news is you were saying even though in 2016 I didn't like it either because it's just true it's just true they will lie they will print things that they have no idea whether or not they're true at the CIA tells them to or if they think they can get attention from from your colleagues on Twitter and I don't blame you know if you have faith in mainstream news institutions you're really irrational and episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

what people are like to be Clint Eastwood's gone is not really a member look look is it fun what it's 2,700 Acres it was set up by Mark Twain and it was a liberal deal for like hookers and gated and just everything else it's a big huge would say Gatorades located gay guys in there everything it was just it was Bohemian Grove when they called fat people do whatever they wanted it was it was it was open and I got like poetry and they had plays the rest of it then became president the Republicans basically bought it the Republicans go there to like they shipping all these private hookers all these Jets land nearby but they also have a lot of gay sex with they use them to basically compromised people into the cult and says a lot of gay sex how do you know this it came out of news articles don't ever got footage of it I was in there for one day I snuck in a people I look good back then they tell me a lot I had like the people I recognized the TV walking let's go right now I mean it's a big gay hookup deal for Republicans I'm just telling you quiet religious history from Christian Perspective it's a Faustian deal mixed with Babylonian and religious stuff from Tire Richard Nixon talks about Richard Nixon said something about it where he goddamn allowing now it says founded 1872 by a group of male that's the context that YouTube app write the point is is that I talk to people that I've heard about this was from his former high-level FBI agent was with the FBI director but he wouldn't go along with corruption so he wasn't some record Idaho CI facility with a snuff films every lacks machine so he told me about all this and I thought he was crazy call Mel deal Danny Glover is he in there they probably like them from the movie of fungi let me know party do whatever and so it's it's but the thing is then the weird Scout here's what happened about 1900 skull and bones that was it Yale in New Haven Connecticut that was a German Death cult it took over Bohemian Grove and that's when they set up that as a central deal what's this big inviting fun party what happens it's going bones cuz that's one of the other rumors about skull and bones that compromise you been compromised you so that you are always a part of the Organization for he died I did multiple interviews with Anthony Sutton the top Congressional advisor to senator Frank church we only know about something because Charlotte iserbyt whose father was high-level skelebones gave him all of their internal manuals and she's been a frequent guest she's retired now Illuminati set up a 1776 to counter our Revolution battle by Sabaton the Jacobins did funds the French Revolution its leaves the opposite of a true and valid Terry and Open winner Revolution it's the leftist always say the Liberal Liberal and leftist Fortuna Foothills left this is left hand path Satanism liberalism is a gallon and open society and so the left hand path set this up and then they wanted they they sent all this opium money they had over in 1831 Yale to set up a German secret society of the Illuminati which then has become of the dawn of secret societies getting there they do actual Satanic rituals they get in coffins they they they do simulated human sacrifices they have gay sex is part of the ritual they they they bathe and huge facilities of feces this was this was a maid by Robert De Niro made a movie who's how can this be proven Matt Damon made a movie called The Good Shepherd I think is and an inn that is Robert De Niro directed it okay and that's super actually works at the sword in the devil and they're in there in these big batch of the Calvin Ridley cat Facebook of photo album of a bunch of Skull and Bones kids hand on a deer island and kind of look like losers I know they're not I totally agree with you remember ABC news they wanted to get bush in trouble right before the 2004 election another frat was able to cuz they're all doing this crap right video down into it with Annoying devil equals Death Satan and they had girls they finally brought into the membership was all boys before sacrificing so course it's idiotic its training wheels for what they do but inside they go grave-robbing that's a legend rumor to order 322 is the Illuminati dramatic death called but now set of chapters all the us and it took over Bohemian Grove around 1900 and so that's why Bohemian Grove is still this artist and you know deal of elitist artist but it ain't got co-opted by the Republican Party retrospective in the late 80s saying I love are Illuminati rituals that we have in Germany in our own Sega gross but I didn't take it to a new level with skull and bones at Bohemian Grove I really enjoy the time we have there and he's just he's Elite institutions where is in scramble that they seek to like create close friends among the people that may not know each other create loyalty among this group of people they want the people to be loyal to each other so when they are not loyal to the laws of America they're loyal to the Izzo that they take with each other exactly geronimo's bones members allegedly steals valuable thing and put them in Tomb great-grandson says Geronimo should be burned buried in a quart tradition federal law protects Native Americans rights to their family members remains the ritual is I'm in charge bend over what is a thing with fraternities anyway like hazing the top kids in the world in a woman's dress sticking his fingers in his ass Bill Clinton in a blue dress with Jeff in Jeffrey Epstein to compromise each other to be in the club cuz they're all doing shady s*** even if it's an order for the president it's not like I'm even that special my mom's brother was a famous helicopter pilot Vietnam run black option to Laos and Cambodia and stuff and then he couldn't tell the stories but no one's ever heard of stuff but true Tegan trouble for it you got promoted Iran-Contra and that's how people get promoted they fail upward by taking a lot of times to blame for something or this is that's like route do I grew up working for these groups and everything is you know an army officer that was shipped if you wouldn't we went down 100 army uniform what's up yeah images of the CIA for sex shops in DC I told me that you told me that when he was dying of pneumonia Jesus f*** what is it with kids why is a way to compromise people in the energy to have somebody sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

statistically they said 5% of us will be dead it's not even 12 they thought white 1% vitamins in nutraceuticals in sunlight and health and people's is just know they're going to deal with the way it is because we always get diseases we always get viruses we always live with the idea we got a lock society and our houses and this is a post-industrial move that they're using the roll out the system to keep his lock down their homes right and if you want to be cynical this is where you step in and say the reason why they want us to be upset and they want the economy to be f***** is because I hate the president and they want him out of office and they want to be gay power they want the Democrat a remake of the American economy in the image of a lot of these these systems that they feel are for whatever reason then just enjoy restaurant roster whatever they wanted use this opportunity to kind of we draw the line the great reset it right here in these documents we are going to reorganize Society Covetous gold to shut down the carbon-carbon is bad or going to end success or going to end Prosperity we're going to track everybody we're control their lives all under the name of Covent they said all that they said were going to end success we're going to end Prosperity martial law Agenda 21 or something where they were saying we want people living in cities we don't want homeownership compact City shop in the future at least likely to be safer than people just driving and texting. can probably corporations robots making herself future human let's focus on the grain from a pandemic and I'll be worldwide martial law in the document Foundation annual report 2010 look up police date lookup no no I'm not exactly Communications thousands more false the new in quotes disease becomes an unchecked pandemic by the time the right expertise is brought to bear on the bus from World governments to late the diseases spread around the globe in a world of global trade and travel with treated faster and travels furthest are the microbes never handshake Southeast so what is this in reference to okay it says a few miles east Bubba Bubba Bubba back to it just go back to where it was all right the potential pandemic the past few decades have severely test the world's ability to work across human borders to text remains weak many parts of the world the public health response has frequently been slow and fragmented the looming threat of infectious disease presents Humanity with a new challenge to communicate and collaborate swifter and with greater efficiency than ever before that doesn't sound like you're trying to end the world controlled they talk about a worldwide police state you starts to turn pandemic I'm telling you what's in these things okay emerging pandemics the new century Stars avian flu and Swine Flu if we don't move investigated to invest in systems that coordinate efforts and share information with the Rockefeller Foundation is working to to meet the health challenges of an interconnected world isn't a Perfect Analogy terrorism because it prevents how many rides do you give up in order to do that and then you know all these proactive measures that we take to prevent terrorism a lot of them create more terrorists who is a balance remaining a free Society real so they found something about AT&T lobbying Lynn fine thing about this I've got the operation lockstep documents were they say we're going to bring in This Global authoritarian beliefs do you want to show it but it might be an interpretation of what they're saying like the wind says specifically she's blaming all this lockdown Whitman was found by the by the Supreme Court a federal court to have seized all three branches of government and basic setup martial law leaving use those terms when was overturned the great that is not a huge jump from what he said but the problem is the way it's being said she was talking about how bad Trump handled the the rate of infection for of course and that's supposed to expand on that I remember like 15 years ago and they were still on CNN we were looking at documents where it said we're going to bring a global government the North American Union using the threat of viruses migration flows and economic collapse and they said like a deadly flu I'm sitting here watching this power grab watching the UN and nnnn big texting while you can't say that the un's wrong coz the un's in charge since when is the news who and all these doctors all these medical doctors that come out and say other things other than like I steroids cure did you know how they were wrong besides that if something is at the UN to take a nap iPhone sync. Org I found a guy went to the second page of this link but this is like scenario narratives that says lockstep it talks about pandemics 1.12 and the stars and all sorts H1 N1 so I skipped into the next page just too while you guys are talking and this is the part that that's a little strange was just getting to into I think he is okay like 20-25 people seem to be growing weary of so much top-down control and letting leaders and authorities make choices for them whatever Nat wherever National interest clashed with individual interest there was conflict sporadic pushback becomes increasingly organized and coordinated as disaffected use and people have seen their status and opportunity slip away largely in developing countries and cited civil unrest by 2026 protesters in Nigeria brought down the government fed up with the entrenched cronyism and Corruption even those who like the greater stability and predictability of this world began to grow uncomfortable and constrained by so many tight rules and buy the strictness of national boundaries the feeling lingered that sooner or later something would have an inevitably upset than DEET order that the world's governments had worked so hard to establish okay I never read that but that's the other stuff episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

how did the laptop come out of this laptop to come this big storm that's where it gets tricky because supposedly he dropped it off at and that were up repair shop in Delaware cause of dozens of times you bring laptop if you don't pay for this we're going to wipe it and sell it until 3 months goes by 6 months goes why nobody ever comes and gets hit the guy goes to look at it at the repair shop the owner and there's all these 25000 files what looks like underage girls and all the rest of this crazy stuff in him smoking crack or god-knows-what nothing the director hides it from Trump and show people as just stay inside of that copies of that they leak it to Rudolph Giuliani do the now it started to put it out so instead of instead of facing up to it they just say anyone promoting us whether it's the house or Senate committees that we're leaving to it for the New York Post or the president's press secretary you're now band which again showed its its election meddling is it gets gatekeeping to cover this up I'll say what else has come out now His Daughter by his daughters left her diary in a house that she has rented diary talks about all the same stuff and everything else what the f*** is wrong with me easy flight coming down off cocaine or crack you up have you smoke this is real the FBI has the files they admit it's real it's a big deal but it's a real problem to ban the stuff from Hunter Biden through through through the mayor who is friends with two again these f****** people eat themselves alive and destroy the First Amendment destroy democracy and I'm sure they have a hand in it I'm sure I run has a this is what intelligence communities have been telling us for a long time now is that it's not just one foreign company or foreign country that's trying to f*** with our democracy if you have the idea that the Russians have a monopoly on this an NFL football team the US and China are the top 10 private the United States because for Stephen Ukraine because whatever they are worried about they project okay so Trump doesn't have Russian connections Trump doesn't have those connections Trump doesn't have those outside connections you can't buy him he doesn't have log the problem is he's an ex family of people around him that basically become lobbyists for themselves and Trump isn't really even aware of it and then that's going on in Demi even jr. age now you'll find out how people live in the millions of dollars you just to say something to the present is this standard s*** is just and how politics of always been done just now we're seeing it well it was standard Leslie 200 years ago that you do after the wife or the brother or some other words the White House organized last lobbyist literally cut the lobbyists off but all it did was now make everyone around him a lobbyist. Officially logged how do you cut the lobbyists off. the vacuuming and Emmett the blind spot is that then everyone around him and his cabinet and everyone that works there even down to mid-level people are now getting multimillion-dollar contracts for companies like AT&T and stuff just to just to just to even mention something like no I just I was mentioning that as a Fortune 500 company okay but it's not AT&T no it's not a team so we shouldn't say that see this is why you need someone that's like a fact-checker right well not know it was slow down a I'm wrong about that but okay do you need on your show is like a legit journalist who's right next to you with a laptop going to Alex hold on hold on just slow down because it's so much right now you get something wrong that's a good understanding did I say that yeah it's real check it out but I'm not trying to make stuff up here it is AT&T confirm Tuesday evening the paid president trumps personal lawyer Michael Cohen in 2017 for in quotes insights into understanding the new Administration a handful of companies essential Consultants a shell company set up by calling before the election to pay Stormy Daniels was paid by several corporations including AT&T at the time AT&T was seeking government approval for its acquisition of Time Warner CNN parent company merger give an example of how everyone his Entourage becomes a a lobbyist because he thinks I'll just cut lobbyist off he's not making any money but then everyone around him it comes alive episode of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

it's on it's almost like you were talking about the Disney Star Wars movies that didn't it's not a work of art it's it's a formula like two plus two is four let's put those together will make some money instead of the original Star Wars which was the hero's journey which was like a Joseph Campbell book it's like Beauty and Purity to it it's a it's an expression of someone comes up with an idea and they bring it to fruition and then you get to watch anyway it moves you from new movies. Movie and it was a crew of of of leaders of thought leaders that like I was there Brian DePalma that told George to put the words at the beginning because it's like really been feeling like it's like when I talk up to this point I just been making THX you know and then the toys from Star Wars and not come out first which should be like you know like the Yeezys or something like that and now it's I'm making the whole store Wars in real life like backwards like the product came first kind of like Disney like Disney he was Mickey Mouse became super popular before he was able to get all of his imagineers imagineers in I want to point out you know when people talk about being you know self-absorbed or the center of your own Universe what's the main character in Star Wars name who created Star Wars but did he write it but listen to that last name George Luke from September 1st sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

the military if you really did become president when when you do become president you are going to have to deal with hostile governments you're going to have to deal with hostile militaries and dictators you know people in another country that and other countries that don't have a value of human life and throughout history we've had immense problems because of that because of military conflicts you think you will approach that mean you will be the Commander in Chief of the greatest army the world has ever known if you're in that position and we have to deal with some sort of a military actual China what if China takes over Taiwan but if they invade Taiwan what if something happens with Syria what if something happens with Iran what if something happens with Russia and you have to make decisions about military action have you thought about this yes I would have to say again like cold I'm a civilian and people can have all their perspectives that they can have of what they would do in that situation but I would have the greatest professionals on the planet the most skilled people have all the experience that would present the information and I would make the most sound rational decisions and I would follow God's will in my approach to to dealing with these other countries to dealing with these other leaders there's there's something about you know Are Presidents personality and the leader of North Korea's personality where there's there's a level of common respect and and that's the reason why they were able to talk and the fear and then taken off of us like people who are God-fearing self-made Servants of their people these these other you know scary dictators they feel like they're that for their country and if they see a president that they know is just taking a check or part of a bigger conglomerate that I don't want it wanted to announce any of the candidates then it's it's very it's very transactional it's and I just said a prayer in this situation this isn't because of what what what what motivated you to say a prayer right there the seriousness the significance of the subject jokes about this to you no joking about people's lives we have to completely Be Still In This Moment allow God to guide our steps and ask the right questions with the highest-ranking officials possible this isn't something that you just Wing but that you just come in and say I did a bit of research I got this like political answer. It's going to get a rise out of people like this is this is people's lives this is you know this is a hole you know setting or or mood than what this whole interview his has been about this is no people are suffering and throughout all sides and in in in Israel than in Nigeria and hate their stuff in the police force in in in in Chicago and that the people the people have been harmed by police and the police were like this all is going to take Serious time like time is love it's going to take that love and that time in moments of listening moments understanding moments like when my wife goes and visits people in prison and she hears their stories she says I understand I understand why you're into why you in that situation I would have did the same thing in this situation and for go to foreign countries and really understand why that they're you know that there any situations or why the killing has gone for so long or why the hate has gone so long why the pain just keeps on you know compounding and compacting there's a empathy that I just have is an artist that it doesn't become a 2 + 2 for situation my dad was actually a Psychology major and a Christian therapist and this therapy we talked about therapy. It's like we need healing International in the address selfishly for America America's number one internationally we need healing and I would lead I would I would lead with with love dignity the responsibility to our country the coverage of our families of our soldiers and in full service to God into can people it's the there's a mold that I would be in in that position like when I was a producer and I wasn't really young man I was running around hopping on trains or in a hopper turnstile stuff in like stealing cars in National Crosby Still in clothes from stores and then I was selling music and going and buying leather jackets or something do you know dating a whole bunch of girls going on tour and then I had a family and had to adjust a lot of my mentality and behavior to grow up and be the man that need to be then God called me and I gave my life to Christ and God is helping him to be the Christian that I need to be and when it's in God's will that I become the leader I will become the leader that I need to be so right now I just said I'm a civilian but my heart my mind and my spirit is it a place where I feel I know I'm being called to Captain this ship like when Roosevelt went in America was in shambles when I when I said who sings about those numbers and when I went to Adidas when I went to Gap like I'm the person that you actually call when things are not going so well as cleans up everything and everything I'm like the forensic we're in the same way how you saw my mind touch on 10 things at a time and then I had to say 10 sentences of time if I can say I'm a maybe narrowing down to seven that's the way my mind takes you know information in and then synthesize it and it comes out as a songwriter comes out as a product using that mentality as a leader Fearless God-fearing we will heal we will show the world what America should be the dream yes said all this s*** all the things you've said and the most non-politician way I've ever heard anybody describe these things I know you really mean these things this is the resonating with me that you're being 100% honest and natural and that's that's what we're missing episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

talk me through how this starts with you have you will you always religious your whole life yes I was and then I you know that I hit high school and what was it that led you back to this just a feeling in your life that there was more to life it was more to your position there was more to you know this idea of a calling that you felt like you could do more and that it it resonated with you more to to produce the Sunday services and 2 to start thinking of of life in this would like you can improve things that God knock me off my horse God like literally call me and said okay now I need you I need you right now I need I mean I need we need God but he called me to serve him and I was tired of serving the music industry start tired of serving you know filling up stadiums you know when the last concert and last tour I did we had a floating stage and and actually was a hanging stage but it looked like it was floating and that's just another thing that's illusion where we need to dispel the illusion they call it the floating stage day but the whole thing about his people used to say how I lose money on tours because I would put so much into the creative and I and I was like wanted to prove approved to who you know prove to man proved too greedy people you know that I could make more than anybody and that's like the Gladiator position that all artists are put into like we're in the middle of this Coliseum let me show you I can kill more lions and tigers and bears and people and then any other Gladiator that happened so that's what I'm what I was doing and then I remember talking to James Turrell and I was like at the top of my lungs like screaming about saving saving ourselves and Humanity in the reason why me and James needed to connect and then I went to my show and then it's like my like the like my head popped back in the spirit jumped out and felt like it was like my mom talkin and the last thing I said was this thing is over and I'm like I sound like my mom like Danza like that's something she would have said if she was in the physical form when she sees her son you know exhaust it like I should have just went through a I had this fashion show we had this fashion show where we took over MSG and just broke all boundaries so 20. 16000 seeds and play the new album and it was a thousand in the show When ya like all young thug plugging in the iPhone and Travis and Cudi dancing yet 50 Cent there Jay-Z their Lamar Odom the the first time that people you know saw him and walk again was we walk together into the into the stadium and he's camo Yeezy jacket or a head-to-toe and the reason why I was so important is like when he was in a coma I would come I'm playing the new music and once he was out of the coma he said that he remembered that music when he was in a coma and that was the album I was playing that day so that's the reason why me and Lamar walked in together and then the next few months later identify show and it started 45 minutes late and the media they just killed me they LeBron's me as I would say like when LeBron went to two Miami and he said you know who are you to have a choice you know like one of my other Heroes Tom Brady he he left I didn't see no jerseys getting burned like when LeBron left so then less than a week after that my wife is robbed in Paris and so we we just cuz I'm in the middle of tour while I'm doing the fashion show I'm doing this so we cancel the tour cuz this is very you know traumatic and then you know we start the tour back up and we get back into it and then I just keep on saying I want to go to Japan I just want to go to Japan because Japan is like a way that people treat their isn't like the systemic racism embedded and every single individual that's inside of the place like in America black white anything there's a systemic white white supremacy like tagged you know white supremacy or we say this is like the guess that is America that is the world currently we've been taught that my first superhero was Superman you know and my dad was a black panther but you know when Disney makes black panther now when you look it up you don't see my dad protecting his neighborhood or snatching a mic out of somebody's are they lying I don't know you know but like father like son right there but you see this character that's made for black people to idolize that was designed by white white person and put out by white company so it's controlling the narrative to say we're going to show you Harry Harriet Tubman we're not going to show you Nat Turner and they do it every chance they get Maleficent they called her her the people the Moors and the Moors and I just saw it again I was just like yo if you erase our history like most black people we don't know we can we think we came from slaves we don't know our bloodline and we're giving Black History Month and we take that like it's some gift to us know it's a programming to us racism doesn't end until we get to a point where we stop having to put the word black front of it because it's like we're we're we're putting the rim a little bit lower for ourselves like it's when I say I'm the second wealthiest black man in America like why do I have to say that cuz you know obviously and we just go on wealth. What we call wellpsyche Financial wealth that scorecard you know I'll be like I'm the I'm the 78th wealthy but we shouldn't have to have a special box is special month because also what they showing black black history month is us getting hoes down reminding us that we were slaves like what if we had remember when I cheated on you more like remember when you first found the found the text messages remember how does that make you feel it makes you feel depleted and defeat it you know it it's no matter what religion you are we can agree on is it is always now but now is the shortest moment of our life it's gone in an instant the longest moments of our life our our memories and our imaginations think about how long a kid imagines Christmas before I mean versus how long Christmas really is and when you think back to your Christmas are you under the table like Jim Carrey in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind like under chair are you a giant are you a king or are you what what what black history month has told you you are this is me speaking to you know black people specifically in America that I know people who would be no kill someone and or but have a gunner in their own hood and be afraid to go downtown and literally be like afraid of white people like the most gangster gang of gangsters wouldn't go downtown and that's just a programming with that program is it the curriculum isn't it's a side of the media and it and it goes to this whole idea of ye when people say is Jay crazy is ye a narcissistic is Jay egomaniac is Jay self-absorbed of Jay all these know ye know who he is I know who I am and I'm not I'm not spent to Val 202 an idea that you want to I am going to be the four idea that God has of me and when I do things that aren't that God don't like I'm I'm I'm I'm being the Lesser version of me this is where I you know in my weakness God becomes strong I have to be the higher me when when people are Downing me is that like me fighting fire with fire me attacking or is he like you know stooping to stooping to that level it's like the devil will use you against you you become your own you become Your Own Worst Enemy episode of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that include go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

I'm not just went on a roof right there but the thing is these isn't that he's all over the place by say I think that he's got a different power source like if you look at the way everybody interfaces with the world is it visit Universal Power multiplayer like a 20 watt charger the way I described you as a 150 watt charger and these ideas are just coming out of them so you do go on these rants that sometimes need to be dissected and individual things but overall you're an incredibly productive so my question is why do why do people think there's something wrong with you Rick medicated they put you away right there I think I don't think in the black and white lines that I've been programmed to Thinkin and I and I think in full color so when I talk I have to describe a thought in five ways you know we enjoy food that has multiple seasoning in it we enjoy music that has multiple instruments so when I talk it's not a rent it's a symphony of ideas and when you collect them you say all these are all these things yeah you know I I just tell the truth and telling the truth is crazy in a world full of lies that's simple yet because I can see that you're thinking and all these different layers and you looking at things from all these different perspectives and they all come together out of your mouth in like a tornado of ideas now if someone wants to just have a Converse I'm with you back and forth I could see where they're going to pass crazy just doesn't stop his ranting but what I'm saying is just you are a very thorough thinker you thinking it things independently but you thinking things in the massive perspective Who convinced you that that's bad is it have you always been this way or were you less is it would it last manageable before did you have issues with it before yeah I believe before I Christ and gave my life to God I would try to lean on my own understanding and that's of the universe is like a black hole of information about your own understanding meaning when people ask Einstein said that you're the smartest person what would you like to know he and his Ryan Stine's response was I'd like to understand the mind of God meaning meaning God is all-knowing and we can only know see and for me as a Visionary we can only know or see what God allows us to see and what he feels were ready to see and understand to to maximize what are Maslow's hierarchy of needs chart is in what sets are dopamines what's Sr serotonins off what makes us feel good and basically like you know we did a good deed and it's like it was somehow or if you know you know just doing a beat for a famous for or just doing a beat for a local dope rapper really meant a lot to me when I was 14 years old doing a beat for just anyone famous that had a major record deal was a lot to me at age 19 me being able to me to put out my own music and put my Mall hours a lot to me at age 24 meaning as I grow God sets new stages in The Game of Life for me that you get your satisfaction like Maslow's hierarchy of need is like our satisfaction chart what makes us feel whole and accomplished as a as a as a human being so as I go through these different levels there's times where I would use confidence when I knew what I was doing and I will use arrogance when I didn't know what I was doing but I'd rather use arrogance than to let someone diminish my idea myself because that is what keeps us going hope actually Keeps Us Alive anybody as most do you want tomorrow to come any say yes they may have hope for it but I went from having confidence and arrogance to having faith and faith is the opposite of fear and that created this Fearless approach that I have and that's what made now has made me the fearless leader that I am that I've liked crystallized into the leader that my mom always knew I would be when kids follow me and preschool the leader that people saw when we change the sound of music The Leader we changed the sneaker industry the leader and what we're doing with with farming and with with shelters when I was building you know the homeless shelters a couple years ago and visiting parks and then going to Skid Row and understanding the the Dynamics and empathizing with what actual mental health issues are not someone you know telling their truth or being exhausted and then being labeled as such like I am so sorry you felt happened to you like you were telling the truth and you were exhausted and they labeled you as mentally unhealthy yes absolutely what happened with you is you feel like maybe or you probably feel like that having this higher calling and recognizing this higher power was the glue that kept your thoughts together they kept your mind straight and it kept you on a righteous path so instead of being scattered with all these crazy thoughts and being exhausted and being labeled manic right but we talked before and you were saying that they had you on medication with the medication f*** with your creativity it f***** with all kinds of things or Ed block my ability to channel what God wanted me to do but we're all we're all on patient right now did you use toothpaste with fluoride today it blocks your pineal gland and they put children on it and we put we put our kids on it you know we would this inside the the deodorants that what uses all these things to create like a disconnect to God to serve that it's like are you serving man are you serving the the one and only Master tell you when when they said that they're going to put you on medication do they put you on and what with what they tell you one of my things that they did is they put me on this medication that made me gain a lot of weight and I said I'm not going to take this and they said okay we got a medication you can take for you won't gain weight and this shows you they were trying to kill a superhero slowly trying to kill genius trying to make me not feel like I could run for president make me not feel like I can go be born and Atlanta grew up on the south side of Chicago go into music when all these Grammys change the sound of music and look up stage performances all that and then still end up in 53 million dollars a day going to the exact debt of the house that they think they're going to buy after the tour is over at and it's and strategize is criminals all over everyone's almost accounts in the music industry it's not a safe place it's a it's a treacherous place so it was money monitor fill with people that are trying to take advantage of other people money bees come to Honey date they put you on this ship because you were exhausted what did they put you on you know I can I can research I'm not actually forgetting the exact medication that they had the main thing that I did is it destroyed my confidence it may be the shell of who I really am it like grade over my eyes it it it made me it made the Mustang that buck anymore they sedated you yes and what was the the thought process behind it talk to a doctor about this what do they tell you is wrong with you they they told me I was bipolar and I remember going on TMZ and saying in a slavery is a choice and a medicated me for saying that for having that opinion and saying it out loud but as I put those contracts up I'm saying this is a choice as I you know you didn't mean people being abducted and brought into slavery and put into chains was a choice what you were talking about is people making decisions that would enslave them financially and enslave their life yeah it was taken out of context and it was taken in the least charitable way and they decided to try to say look at crazy Kanye look at this shity saying then they medicate you and the media is always taken anything out of context that isn't a part of the overall narrative that because there is you know Mike Hollywood and media has control so much of the narrative and then he had Silicon Valley and that's what's so beautiful about one of my hero Steve Jobs because there wouldn't be a Silicon Valley over the Silicon Valley wouldn't be what it is today if Steve Jobs didn't make information accessible like this which is still play control but it feels like Twitter is the the safest flea Frias Mass platform to communicate on and you know it's like they mess with Jack because of that you know we know it's still censored there's a lot of issues now but I think that's internal I think it's people that have worked in there that I woke that want to stop people from seeing certain things and their there's a lot of struggles with and it's unfortunate because I I do agree that it's an unbelievable way to get ideas out there but it's also it's a new thing and it's mismanaged by the people that use it often they don't know what they're doing or why they're doing it every version of anything that man has made will be flogged episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there 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I met with the showman Sam one of the founders of Y combinator to Y combinator is a a is a contract that my friend that had a Dropbox use and that a lot of tech guys use and it's a standardized deal so one of the ideas I had when I was in this process of any of them at war with the music industry it's just it's time for us to innovate and we need to have contracts that makes sense with exactly how we sell music so you know people at every pacinian that's like every 20 years just like the like decade is 10 of sending as 20 and as you see now it's like the world is just stopped for a second and there's an opportunity to look and say what are the things we need would have things we don't need so I don't know if you saw what I posted my contract I had 10 contracts that kept on putting me inside of Prince and there's things that we don't need now I believe that the distribution partner that the label is like Prince will go and say are we don't need the distribution part especially if Prince was really alive and thriving in this internet error I'm the kind of person where I'm not trying to go and eliminate anyone's job so record labels are afraid of saying okay we're going to hand over the tribution completely to you guys which is in us that's a possibility there's a way where both parties can be happy and that these infrastructure Partners can be of service to the influencer to the artist like these these deals can be flipped in a way that they're just more fair you know a record and I just going to this specific place with the record labels for a second so I wanted to wrap he was very like leery of that ID said that this this I heard this business is terrible and you know he's right like people are all seeing things that are wrong inside of contracts turning Blind Eye to it and the ones responsible everyone's a part of it you know it's like when the me-too movement happen you know it wasn't just the guys that were getting tagged and you know some of the guys should have got hit with his something I shouldn't you know that's not what I'm here to talk about I'm saying that in a way everyone's responsible everyone's a part of the problem that's why I really love that Black Mirror episode when you know everyone was making comments and anyone that even made a comment it was about these you know of mechanical bees anyone that is a spoiler alert if you haven't seen this episode but anyone who made a comment the bees came to go get them and that's the thing about what you put in the universe even a thought you know you put that thought into the Union it's another thing to say something negative and put that into the universe is another thing to see someone being raped in s reason why I compare what's happening to in the industry to me too because artists are raped you've heard that term before I'm at this and I like this not like a new thing that I'm making up the contracts are made to rape the artist and you know I put my like I think about you know this is like a thought that right now it's like a negative thought that I put into the universe but I have to say I was thinking about Bruce and Brandon Lee that crossed my mind to say I'm this is Sony this is universal and I'm willing to put the blue paint on my face and go out and do this because it's the right thing to do like music like at this point it loses me money it doesn't make it doesn't make money it is my 5 billion dollar net worth in 300 million dollar did I see a year music is like -4 million for me so these contracts when we were kind of like waingro and heat where this guy had everything but he still said waingro messed up this this this house that we're going to do like I look at the music industry that music in the love of Music except for the music industry I look at it like waingro like I Blame You Know the lost my mother partially on the entertainment industry the always fighting to you know represent you know who you are against media entertainment and Industry that's trying to tear down anybody that's not going with the flow I I see him I've got those kind of reasons personally but vengeance is mine says the Lord so it's not a matter of in for Revenge that's just me as a human being where I fall short like I'm not unlock Bruce Lee and Brandon Lee I lost you there okay so Bruce Lee and Brandon Lee were both murdered what Brandon Lee died in an accident on a movie set yeah you think it was a murder conspiracy is that Bruce died from a reaction to a medication right yeah I mean but I think about that anytime I go to the go to the hospital I'm very you know I'm mindful of that stuff you think about like Bob Marley they didn't just JFK or MLK him there's like report said it was something in his toe or cancer right believe you have skin cancer yeah like I got a shot in my hand cuz I just been texting and stuff my phone was like her and then I post have so much you hurt your thumb absolutely texting way too much so I post a picture of the screen at the hospital and then I was asked to take it down by people just called I forget exactly who asked me but it was like they get they got to my management they got to Destiny said take that picture down like the hospital is in the weirdest place you know so what did they not like about the picture I think it had like it might have had some information on it that they didn't want to go out like an address or something like that that's just like but I don't want to go down go down these rabbit holes I'm just saying like Michael Jackson not waking up one day prints not waking up one day Bruce and Brandon Lee Bob Marley all of the things are have crossed my mind you know as I'm going insane I need to innovate with these contracts are not just for me but for all artist is not about me getting my master's back it's about it's about freedom and I I say on a new song I say if I will put myself In Harm's Way to get my Master's they would put their self In Harm's Way stay the master and that's there's 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just make more money but it's not about making more money it's about keeping poor people poor and rich people rich and keep it keeping people in their place and right now we're experiencing the fall of Rome or the Titanic has now hit a glacier and there's people who would prefer to go down with the Titanic then to get on a Lifeboat because they don't want to get sea water on their dress or the nice outfit people are so programmed and brainwashed into classism in protectionism that it's difficult for people to embrace Innovation unless it has a tag on it that's got a name brand connected to it that says with this Innovation you will be better than the person you'll be better than your next door neighbor episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but only be available on Spotify sounds of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st 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so what what are you doing you run for president yes what made you decide to do that aren't you busy enough clothing company successful rapper family man that it was something that God put on my heart back in 2015 a few days before the MTV Awards it just it hit me in the shower and when I first thought of it I just started like laughing to myself like all this site Joy came over my over my body this dude through my soul and I could just I just felt that energy I felt that Spirit till then two days later accepted the Michael Jackson video Vanguard awards at the MTV Awards and instead of Performing you know my oreya hit songs you know I gave just my perspective on award shows butt always hot I knew at the end I was going to tell people I'm running for office I'm running for president in 2020 and you know just to have the it it it even took hard to say it in that context and people are just like their minds were blown and then I was hanging out with different I had different friends that were you know some people in the music industry some people tackle eats different things like that really you know they just really took it as a joke and they're telling me all these millions of reasons why I couldn't run for president member running into Oprah two days or one day after that she like you don't want to be president you know people just thought projecting putting this on you and I remember saying one of my responses to one of the people that one of the naysayers was while definitely be a billionaire by that time and that that that's a reason why someone should become president but it's to say you know at that time I was 50 around 50 million dollars in debt and I knew I had the confidence that I would be able to turn that around and now you know just going into now we'll just give you a clear answer I don't want to go off on 202 set goals in order to achieve them but what was Oprah's rash now she said you don't want to be the president like what was she saying cuz I remember when people are saying that that's our next president number one Trump got elected you know they showed Oprah and they were sent like it was I believe it was like NBC tweeted it this is our next president like they were a lot of people want it over to walk to run and they felt like if Trump could win Oprah could win when I saw when I was like see you can win you can win if you're coming from outside of politics I was young when Ronald Reagan was in was President I don't remember which is an idea that people have thrown out at me to three Governor California to be Governor California yeah shop open things up again man but I think I think my calling is to be I believe that my calling is to be the leader of the Free World not not I mean if it's in God's plan that part of my path is to be the governor than that's fine but my calling is to be the leader of the Free World different than the plans have been implemented before does it mean that you have ideas and a plan like the plan to be the leader like what would you do if you were the leader of the Free World like what would be different about the way you would handle things like if that's your plan like what is it about that that that is your calling like why would why would you want to do that like what do you want to do differently if you were the leader of the Free World well there's a couple questions and he said why you know why is that you're calling this people say to me you know they'll save when music is bigger than politics or more influential than politics or celebrities are more influential and I thought of it like if I was a pastor of 100000 person church but then I was also a captain a sailor and then we went to war and I said I'm going to man this ship that has a thousand people thousand soldiers on it because God is calling me to take this position even though I'm the pastor for you know however big my audiences and Hip-hop music or is it just an influencer celebrity or just as a dad and husband and my house the world is like if they couldn't be a better time to put a Visionary in the in the captain's chair and that's not to say we haven't had Visionaries be before I'm not coming here to down any of the other I'm not here to down Trump down Biden I'm just here to express y God is call me to take this position you think of yourself in terms of like as an artist as a Creator some someone who has these thoughts they manifest and in terms of music and art creation designed the things that you do that's why you think you're different as a Visionary yeah I think that I think I'm different from I mean that we're all different different from everybody we're all different from each other I'm at do bump into people that seem to be like the same character inside of is like because and empathetic and I feel the entire Earth and I feel less as a as a species as that the human race like I did it sometimes people think of Utopia as almost like a negative or that's that's like we couldn't have that but I do believe in World Peace like the people hit me with the I wanted things Oprah said as she said you got a bone up on your Foreign Affairs I remember this like I remember a lot of what the conversation was but that's the first thing she said was you know Foreign Affairs and foreign policies like this I think the reason why I say leader and not politician and not even specifically president is this is the time you know when when the Constitution was written that was an innovation now the world is innovated all around our political system go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

have you seen sour grapes documentary yes parts of it having to know I have a pretty amazing that was supposed to be these really expensive bottles and duped all these like real one so when I first heard about the film I was under the impression like that that guy was that a wine dinner in Beverly Hills Peter Gay go from penfold sitting next to me and that guy was sitting next to sour grapes documentary Ruby but his ability to do what he was doing to put these wines and bottle and mimic what the pallet that just the nature of the color everything about it being able to duplicate the what's in the bottle to the point where it would fool saw him he was like he's an alchemist like he was really good at like making it who won just like putting wine on the bottom of the bottle like the opened it and you really thought it was that wine you would go that seems like not a great version of that one but that's that wine oh so you could tell that it was slightly off and in some cases that's that's in the pallets Kirby Kearney to create a great wine and I know you I've tried but what he was doing and I'm just speculating on sing the song but what he was doing was just a fool you right now that wine might not last in that bottle wants you so knocking it it's not going to hold up it's not all I'm sure it's not the structure up line and he was literally putting dirt and things into create that initial impression so that when you taste it to investigate it you okay I think that's what that is and then he write the check and he's like go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

reminded me of Floyd Mayweather and he knocked out Victor Ortiz when they were kissing or whatever they did but Jim Gray well remember that I was like okay no you wouldn't have no you wouldn't remind me of he got mad and then he's just going to kick his ass crazy thing to say to literally one of the greatest boxers that's ever put on gloves yeah Mayweather fighting Logan Paul UCF Logan Paul Logan Paul in that fight Logan Paul is a really good athlete yeah he's an enormous man now if it was an MMA fight I would pick Logan Paul listen to me there's a video of Logan Paul wrestling with Paulo Costa it's a real live wrestling like live wrestling sparring session where he is exhibiting real scale he knows how to scramble he's got real wrestling skill and I know how good was he I am with Paulo Costa Pollo is the UFC's number one contender in the middle of division and the most beautiful man in the UFC perfect specimen of a man and a wrecking machine yeah they're they're doing wrestling drill and sparring and Logan Paul is hanging in there man with an elite MMA you know World Championship caliber fighter a guy who likes went to war with yellow Romero and down right I mean Paulo Costa is a monster and Logan Paul is hanging in there and I don't care what anybody says like the what what I saw in that I'm like that kid is now he's got to be 6-1 he might actually did he join the wrestling team this is Ohio State and Athens oh you dude he's a big dude and he's a real athlete and want things that I saw I know he lost his boxing match data draw the first time they lost a second time but what I'm seeing him throw punches like he's very athletic throws punches with good technique you know but obviously the other kid that he boxed with did as well but there's such a difference between that and Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match it's going to be hilarious got the locks big I got the one punch Logan KO oh my God it's so hilarious could you imagine if he did could you imagine if he Clips Floyd Mayweather in a temple to see Floyd Mayweather do it all with the crowd would do I'm heading there would be a crowd yeah but kid has made so much money these opportunities at the flight fight Floyd what I know but the thing about it is like a who's going to sanction that the weight classes are so different Floyd a 50lb different it could be 50 lb + lb In-Shape you know less than a probably but that here's a crazy thing watch the s*** out of that and it's more and more exciting everyday Roy Jones jr. is posting some s*** on his Instagram yeah dude he still got some really yeah you find that and he Allied haulage eyes I lied about Logan Paul wrestling just doing it advance for everything just in case it's going to be one of the most ridiculous things ever though to box literal best boxer never lost but they do some scrambles C I don't know how much Logan is changing his but seriously because they want to look good that's it well it exists it somewhere so he think they did a lot of sparring like boxing sparring for sure yeah this is just showing Lego right here let's see what happens here come on Logan 2:30 and he's a tank I'm looking at Harder but I'm a b**** Jamie come on because he gets ko'd by Logan Paul he's jacked I mean it works out hard shot and yeah I mean he has podcast sea salt works I Get It episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

it's important you know I can't help talk about the death penalty when we talk about shorty Clemente because in this country a lot of people still believe in death penalty and I don't and what I do people believe in the death penalty is I respect your view but what percentage of innocent people are you okay with executing right because the system is fundamentally flawed and even if the system was reformed in all the ways that we could sit here and think can I have some ideas on that they're still going to be errors there's always going to be there always in the errors made and so you have to accept that they're going to be mistakes we know that in Florida where Josh represents so they're not even if all the people the executed were guilty and we know they weren't right we know certain people like Jesse tafero who is absolutely innocent executed by the state of Florida and that gruesome execution where the electric chair quote-unquote malfunction at his head caught on fire 3 times but even if they got the right he came within a month of being executed by the state of Louisiana when an attorney investigator staring into a microscope and saw the DNA evidence to prove that he was not guilty of this murder and he was ultimately exonerated he said I don't understand why that prosecutors not being charged with attempted murder they tried to kill me and they knew I was innocent and I've proven that but what happens to the prosecutor nothing when it comes to anything where there's a game and the problem with policing and Prosecuting people and convicting people and it's a game and meaning that there's winners and losers and winners winners and losers people cheat there's a people with poor character and they just want to win and they get caught up in this game and you can call it a game you can call the pursuit whatever you want to call it there's a there's an end that you want to achieve if you're successful and if you if you don't cheese that and you are unsuccessful so when people are trying to achieve this end they will do all kinds of things and it's just inherently a part of human beings that are weak people of weak character people that are morally flawed they do things like that they'll they'll know there were and they do it anyway they they know that someone is innocent and they pursue it anyway because they want that W it's a real problem with people I've seen it with we've all seen him playing games with people kids do it you know adult do it like when you see a grown adult cheating at cards or just a game of cards it's a f****** it's a embarrassing thing like who are you but do you really you hit it on the head so much Valenti's case and this is not this is not someone off circumstances Joe you could not have articulated it better I mean it is ever been an argument with someone and it's like with my wife sometimes she'll be like know you left the keys here and I'll be like no I know I gave them back to you and then as you're in the argument you remember you know what she's right I actually put that and you have a you have a decision to make am I going to be the bigger person and say I f*** or am I going am I going to continue down this course unfortunately you know and I think I think Joe like hit on the fundamental psych psych on the psychology is almost like you're right it's not binary it's either win or lose and I was begging I mean you know I'm an emotional dude and I had to weep to the prosecutor and Clemente's case I had the real murderer on the stand and I got my first question how many times have you threatened to murder someone watch her dog in there yet she said never I have – cam video of her saying to a cop blasting her head against the partition I'm going to f****** murder you you m*********** so I play the video for and I said what about that she said I didn't listen I didn't watch that was you that was your voice right and you know I got her well I blackout I say things and do things and I blackout them block them out I finally got her to admit I said isn't it true that you may have murdered your mother and your grandmother and blocked it out she said yes and I had to sit in a room with a prosecutor and I don't know if it was just like you know would like an angry cry cuz I'm angry that he won't just say I f***** up here we f***** up we got the wrong person and I'm weeping to him saying admit that you made a mistake and and you're right it is that that I have seen it so many times with prosecutors it's all about getting the W and they just won't admit they're wrong I think that there's something deeper about human psychology working there where the powers-that-be won't admit I mean I hate to say but Kamala Harris was no different here in California I mean she fiercely defended in a wrongful convictions why I mean there's like a huge investigative piece in the New York Times about it it's not something that's germane to Florida it's in California to New York and God forbid you're in the South you know and it's it's a real problem and I don't know how to solve it too many cases right constantly there they're constantly hearing new cases to completely overhauling and change this method of of of policing and convicting people it would require a massive undertaking and that's why we're so appreciative that you know that it really literally takes being in in the bowels if you will of the system and getting it beneath your fingernails and standing up too and speaking truth to power be terrifying to be there to to know that someone is willing to convince someone that they know is innocent because they want to win and there's more I think some of them are preventable and when when we set out to do these podcast whether it's wrongful eviction one or junk science but Josh is the host of just came out or even the false confession series that we did our goal is to educate the public because your listeners are going to you and me everyone Jamie over here is going to end up on that you hope that telling you the truth that you respect because of authority figures right I go up respecting uniforms and and everything else and I still do but the fact is they may not be telling the truth and the just because somebody says they're in experts with Josh talks about in his pocket doesn't mean they're really an expert that they may be talking about things that are actually junk science and furthermore they're allowed to lie in the interrogation room on my shy talked about the fact that if you get picked up and brought in for questioning your people who are innocent waive their Miranda rights 85% of people wave them anyway because they don't think that I'll just go in I'll tell him what was in there I was with my mom whatever was the only thing say is this is my hum Joe Rogan and I want a lawyer or whatever your name is whoever's listening cuz the only words you should say because they're not your friends and you can get taught in that interrogation room crazy s*** happens they don't always be people up they don't need to they can use course of psychological tactics and once you start talking and you're in that little airless room and seen it on TV right and they start the good cop bad cop intimidate you and they threaten me with the Death Valley and they're allowed to lie know why they allow the line that's a great question other Western countries they're not but here they are so they can sit there and especially the people that are most likely to falsely confess our people adolescence right anyone his brain is not fully formed we know that your brain is not fully formed to your 25 and military veterans the case of that for four guys confess to crimes they didn't commit and none of them did it and the tax Central Park 5 is another why are they allowed to do it because there's not a law no one has the balls all these blowhard politicians have the balls to introduce Live casino they're afraid to piss off the police Union because they'll lose that vote to end introduce legislation right to lie to a suspect about the mind f*** that's going on here remember the psychology is going to deprive you of sleep we're going to deprive you of food going to scare the living s*** out of you and we're going to lie to you we're going to lie to you and make you ever see that Chris Rock that or he's like cop pulled me over and after while my dad maybe I did do it maybe I did something and didn't remember it that's what they start getting you to believe because if they're bring me their saying Joe listen we have how the f*** do you explain how your DNA is on the victim how do you explain that and you're thinking yourself I can't f****** explain that a I didn't do it but maybe I don't know maybe I did something and don't remember it and then there is there's this which is you'll hear from a lot of people that are victims of course of interrogations is I figured I would just tell them what they wanted to hear get the room and then sorted out right that you committed his gruesome murder right you just got my partner's crazy I don't know what he's going to do to you I'm smart I would never do that but the thing is they don't realize 25% of the DNA exoneration to properly 25% show up to involve false confessions so just process that right that's how many people confess because cuz they're doing that and some of them Clemente's case liking my own adopted daughter nor Jackson's case where the Tennessee Supreme Court unanimously overturned her conviction for murdering her own mother and in their in their ruling they excoriated the prosecutors were having played so loose with the rules right to say the least and yet they came back and said listen we're going to try you again unless you take unless you take a plea when they overturn your conviction the indictment still stands original and most prosecutor it's a long time ago and we've been proven wrong and you know the Let It Go but if they really are vindictive they may say you know what I want to protect this this conviction and let's not forget that every time we convect an innocent person the real the real perpetrator remains free pretty hard-line hardcore Law & Order whenever you go by your listeners cover different in a box of Life different viewpoint but everybody can agree that we want the person Specialties vicious violent crimes we should all want the real perpetrator off the street and not for the convenient Target to just get and then that other perpetrator often times we should all want the real perpetrator off the street and not for the convenient Target to just get manhandled and brutalized by the system and then that other perpetrator often times goes on to commit more terrible crimes

but so Josh is now hosting a podcast on junk science this is what we started talking about the beginning and I've made you stop and redirect it was come back to it so explain like what what is the junk science what were the issues with wrongful convictions and junk science so the all various disciplines of forensic science or used to convict people and in fact wrongfully convicted that's not admissible it's not so no it doesn't work it's not reliable but is it because you could beat it if you're a psychopath yeah you could be did there's all different factors that cause your blood pressure to rise you know you may just have a high blood pressure or you may your heart may beat faster when you get anxious and different situation so it just doesn't work and it's not admissible in any courts but I'm talking about things that you would probably think it just based on pop media even if you were very read what you are you would say all that's reliable when I bite mark evidence and it's complete junk science of the National Academy of Sciences is a the gold standard it's got the finest scientists in the country that did a review of all of the friends of disciplines that are used in courts and found that with the exception of DNA all of these are fraught with problems bite mark evidence blood spatter arson coercion Queen coerced confessions what the podcast does is it examines all of these Brent episode-by-episode it examines all these friends of disciplines and it goes through to explain how and why a their total b******* and B they are in the face of it being total b******* still accepted now and like the fact that you got emotional made hug you because it was like you know that's like it takes a special person to be able to get there on that level but now I want to try to make you angry because I think it is it's the anger that should drive people you want to know that you want to know the difference between a mouthpiece in human skin everything humans your skin is different than my skin in thickness inconsistency if you're flexing when I bite you if it's during a struggle or not and you have to follow the signs what the signs tells us is that bite marks on humans skin or not only unreliable but there has been study after study that the so-called experts are they call odontology can't tell the difference between a bite mark and an insect bite they can't even agree they were all shown the self-professed finest odontologist in the country are all shown pictures of Mark on human skin they can't even agree as a threshold matter what's a bite mark and what isn't as a forensic Denton dentist that fancy themselves an expert and bite-marks but the origin story of all these forensic Sciences Sciences you end up down a rabbit hole to some f*****-up story that sounds like a wacky religion take bite marks for instance there's a guy named George Burroughs is a reverend in the late 1690s he's accused of torturing young girls okay and one of the forms of torture is biting them and he's trying and convicted and they take him around the corner and pull his mouth open and they point to the crookedness of his teeth the ridges in his molars and they compared to the bite mark and he's hanged publicly and he cites the Lord's Prayer at his hanging and you know everybody in the crowd is like that kind of f***** up because witches aren't supposed to be able to cite the Lord's Prayer because this was a trial during the Salem Witch Trials he's the the first posthumous exoneration I'm aware of twenty years after this they end up finding out that George Burroughs was in a different town altogether not only didn't bite these people but that the marked weren't even bites and they they put a posthumous Lee exonerate in the colony of Massachusetts family compensation to watch this in the 1970s there's a guy named Walter marks that is accused of biting a victim in a murder and the court in that case says you know what there is no established signs hear it can't be replicated but bite marks are associated with you know identifying accident victims burn victim and admits it and it gets admitted into evidence the Appellate says well if the if the judge found it credible who are we overturn it and so Jo watch this it now infects and is probably an unpopular analogy to use now but it's spreads across the criminal justice system like a virus every quarter start sighting this marks case and judges just started meeting it the National Academy of forensic science has found that there's no way to replicate it that it's unreliable that they there f****** crackpot name West who's in Odin tologist that claimed to use 3D pictures and UltraViolet he so they set him up they send him you no bite marks and the mold of a teeth from someone other than the defendant and said we think this is the defendant can you match it to this bite mark and he said yes they had sent them the bite mark of someone other than the defendant and mean it is that it is that add of a junk science so what will we're hoping to do is through the podcast to educate people because it you're right it is how do you overhaul a system it's a monster and one of the ways that you can overhaul the system is you know everybody says how do you be a lot how I get out of jury service and I say you know what you should want to be there because God forbid you were accused of something you didn't do wouldn't you want you on your jury so one of the ways we were do it is to get people thinking you know what I can make a difference here because there's no presumption of innocence throw that around like it exists it doesn't exist there have been studies done my firm has done one well over 90% of people feel like if you've been accused of a crime you probably did it look I represent it how I met Lennox I represent Lennox in a case and I represented him how I met him was I represented him in a case and it's interesting most people say to me when I say that what did he do to promote or from ripping them off and for stealing from him but if you ask people during jury selection how many of you in a criminal case and when I was you know a lot of jurors were asking what did he do and do anything but if you ask jurors in a criminal case if a judge will let you ask it what you should be able to ask how many of you think my client he was arrested indicted must have done something wrong hands go flying up and you know it should be a basis to get rid of people that's not the brunt of the Assumption of guilt best in this country that takes more people to be conscientious and one of the things that we're trying to do on the podcast is educate them about these junk science is so that if you're ever on a jury and you hear well the trajectory of the blood mark on the wall shows you that the person must have grabbed the knife from this angle its total b******* one more time what's the name of the podcast wrongful conviction junk science SOL these people figure out like how someone must have hit him this way and I've seen it in movies that's all bulshit total b******* so the second episode of the podcast I have a guest by the name of Pamela Cole off who's an award-winning writer she just won every award you could win for writing an article about an informant in a case of mine and I got to know her and she wrote an amazing investigative piece about blood spatter evidence for pro public Texas monthly or the New York Times one of those three I should know and she went undercover deep and she became certified blood spatter analyst as part of a research this is a discipline that was born in the basement of some whack-job up in New York he called it the national forensic laboratory or some s*** like that and it was his basement in his house and he would do things like like recreate Crimes by like you know hitting cadavers and watching the blood spatter and it just like think about it there's so many things wrong with that the way the blood travels out of the body from a static aesthetic body versus one more blood is throat is circulating already changes it the temperature of the blood is different if you're struggling and I hit you with a blunt force object a hammer a bat and your arm is coming up this way depends on the speed your arm is traveling it is total and utter b******* but it's admissible admissible as evidence even though it all 50 states that proves that these guys who make themselves out to be these experts don't know anything about what they're talking about I mean it's it's we should all be embarrassed and ashamed that this is allowed to go on in our courts you think about a joke NACA whatever it is right and now you're going to go with a couple of teeth on an imperfect surfaced days or weeks later and you going to go this must be Josie's cuz they were able to get a study and they cite to it in the report you can get it online it's they did a study where they would have people with no teeth bite human skin and the people with no missing their two front teeth to bite me computers is it they have two front teeth people that have two front teeth can bite down and if their incisors are too long it can make it appear that they're missing two front teeth so it's just as far as blood spatter is concerned there is a case against the Peterson case that my friend David Rudolf did another staircase that show on Netflix where the guy was where they were trying to recreate the blood spatter analyst we're trying to recreate the spatter in the staircase and there's video of them doing it and they keep on hitting this this receptacle full of blood and they can't recreate it and they keep on doing it and doing it and finally on the whatever 15th try they get it and they all start celebrating and high-fiving you're supposed to be able to replicate this year the reason why DNA is is so reliable is that it's going to be the same every time it is the gold standard it now they're wasted manipulated there certain people out there that are trying to f*** with it right now and he claims to be able to take a mixture of a bunch of different people's DNA and tangle it right and basically be able to say whose DNA is what and you know he won't give the source code for his data and you know this shouldn't be a black box so there's there's some things going on like that but for the most part when it's done correctly and the right standards are applied you can bet on DNA but a lot of these pattern-matching disciplines blood spatter fingerprints in some instances bite mark evidence what are the other ones tread tracking on shoes arson or arson you can go to any Court in the country in Sama blood spatter I always wondered because I would see her house burnt to the ground then they would say all they determined it was started by a fire and this is how they determine didn't like but everything's burnt-out like how do you know there are countless people serving hard-time in prisons in America Joanne parks and Kristine bunch I just interviewed she brought me to tears who was convicted of being hurt her case in Indiana she was a 21 year old mother of a three-year-old boy and her trailer caught fire she was asleep she woke up she couldn't get into the son's room it was to the fire was too out of control already in the little boy died and the fact is that she they went they arrested her 6 days later and charged with arson and murder over the speed limit and she everybody said she was a doting loving mother she was working and going to school and she lost everything she owned she don't have insurance to have a shirt to wear at the end of this right because she was in her pajamas it's like had been present in the house from previous owners who had to come forward and said that there was you know it and then there was you know she was guilty and they were going to try to win she's just a magnificent human who in prison did the most phenomenal things and now she's helping other she has an organization maybe you could look it up Jamie she has a wonderful organization I'd like to shout out and she's making a real difference and she I think I'll pass the compensation statute and there's a confirmation I know that I've hurt you talk about it and you're familiar with it you know you know the desired outcome so you confirm that buy us so you know they then start looking at a streak from a smoke stain on the wall and knowing that the theory is that there was a match struck and placed against the wall right they will say well that's why you see at the patterns do of that stain on the wall of smoke where the reality is is that there are a lot of different explanations for how something can look the scientific analysis of of charred remains not remains of people but remains of different things chemical compounds and things and if you're working to reverse-engineer now come you know it's and it's easy to make this stuff sound reliable because if you don't have experience with it I mean look this is a big haven't done any bite more cases and all of my cases so I Chi actually try to approach it with an open mind, I'm literally stunned at what I'm finding out doing research for the episodes because it sounds like some wacky religion you know that somebody invented in their house and people buy it so is all this stuff still in use because no one has exposed the fact that it's all junk science or is it because it's established as a part of we accept in trials and they did to haven't made the corrections yet because if they did then they would have to accept the fact that all these other convictions were based on this junk science would be open to reinterpretation in the trailer for junk science Josh address is exactly that and he doesn't very eloquently which is that it along with Chris fabricant who is a strategic litigation a director at the Innocence Project it was actually a post I created in honor of my dad what helped to create I should say and he doesn't incredible job but basically they keep using it because the president is there right once it's and Josh talks about that and maybe we could even play the trailer but like everyone's heard those words it's a it's a ridiculous idea that you can shake a baby hard enough to Rattle its brain without injuring it in any other way right so we're supposed to believe that a woman who's a mother right first of all that it's hard to believe that they would kill her kids okay let's just leave know your arms are going to do an invite away unless I'm mistaken if people most people get mad at something I don't shake it they hit it they kick it or throw it right don't shake it at a bad shot whatever I mean it's you know it's Madness and yet it's accepted in court and John Jones in Ohio innocent as could be just misdiagnosed

and what blows my mind is that science is the truth to me good signs DNA is the truth so here we had a case in this was one where I said well I want to be convinced that he's innocent so it's the case of this goddamn Clemente Aguirre and if I tell you this story you'll say that you got to be making this s*** out of it can't be true because of the story from start to finish is just mind-bending he's a Honduran immigrant he is escaping MS 10 in Honduras and he wins like what it was like the under inversion of the voice right American Idol because he's only four foot eleven as a grown person he's in his early twenties in the violence is getting so bad as I got to get the f*** out of here they kill his front front they killed front and dump them in the street in front of him so he flees to America and he does the whole circuitous route through Mexico or he get tries to get a Mexican accent he finds a coyote and he swims across the Rio Grande Almost drowns and then he's taken I mean that whole story I could spend a half-hour on he's putting out an escape hatch of a car and driven around the country till he finally lands in Sanford Florida right and Sanford Florida is where the Trayvon Martin trial happen and I end up in front of the same judge that presided originally over the Trayvon Martin trial so Clemente's accused he gets the Stanford Florida on a Saturday he's begins working at a golf course on a Monday climbing trees and cutting down branches one of the golf member says I like this kid's work ethic you want to come work at my restaurant and goes and begins working at the restaurant he lives in a tree in the back of a trailer no s*** on Vagabond way and he's got neighbors who are three generations of poor-white-trash it's a grandmother a mother and a daughter and he's like a novelty they call him Little Mexico is not even from Mexico he can't speak English and he used to go and do coke with daughter smoke weed drink and it was a go outdoor dorm you know they would go to his trailer he would go to hers what's the doors were always unlocked he's out one day partying with his friends he does coke he comes home and it's like 5 in the morning and he wants a beer because he wants to try to come down so he waits till the sun comes up and he goes to knock on their door and he sees a bloody shoulder blocking the door and he goes to push it open and the mother as stabbed 229 times and he bends down is no stranger to seeing violence he bends down to check her and the dog starts barking and hears noise and it picks up when he sees a butcher knife bloody butcher knife sitting on a on a box and he picks it up and he screams in Spanish has anyone here he then walked into the other room and he sees the grandmother slumped over in a wheelchair and he freaks out he goes he's about to call the police me says wait a second I'm a legal they'll never believe you imagine this s*** on a cocaine Bender so he leaves the trailer he runs back to his throws the knife in the grass takes his bloody clothes off his clothes are bloody because he picked up the mother and to check her pulse takes off his clothes throw them in the garbage bag put some on top of the trailer the boyfriend and the daughter slept out that night and I saw the mother in the grandmother dead the daughter slept out that night he and bear with me because this will this is like worth waiting for he the police show up a couple of hours later because the boyfriend is sent by the daughter the daughter says I have a weird feeling about my mother and grandmother can you go check on them and get my work clothes cuz you work at Subway the sandwich shop so the boyfriend of the daughter discovers the dead bodies calls 911 the police come they come next door to Clemente's trailer and say did you chicken last night you know anything about this assistant know he's freaked out he then goes to a friend's house and tells his friend what happened he said I'm just going to go back and tell the cops would happen this is America right and the friend says you don't know America you need to get the f*** out of town misses now I'm going back I'm going to tell them he goes back walked over there and says tells me exactly what happened they put them in handcuffs and they sit him down and they said listen we know how you lighten guys are you wanted sex from them right he says are you out of your f****** mind know I had nothing to do with this PS long story short he gets tried convicted and put on death row in Florida the crime scene analyst sat on their hands and knees four days in the stinking Florida heat and scraping blood swabs in the trailer okay 151 blood swab and what they're swabbing for is not the victim's blood they know it's a victim's blood this woman has been butchered 129 times the crime scene analyst and his case testified that we were swabbing for evidence of who the perpetrator was cuz in a knife fight the perpetrator often get to Nick and cut especially when you're stabbing someone that many times so when the Innocence Project got the case they said what were the results of that blood test you know how many drops of blood they tested not a single drop of blood they never tested a single drop of blood because they thought that he was guilty we had the blood tested and right in the foot in inches of the mother's body and in the bathroom where the state argue the killer cleaned up is the daughter's blood a trail of the daughters blood going to the bathroom and then the mother's Blood on the outside of the daughters window we did a just a minimal investigation into the daughter and it turns out that she had a history of crazy violent she had a condition called intermittent explosive disorder where you would snap and just go off the rails that that's a condition it's a condition of psychiatric condition we look at her medical file when she's diagnose of intermittent Express explosive disorder they they put her in four point restraints that's your arms and legs and there's in the doctor's notes few years before this happened where she says to her mother I'm going to f****** kill you if I ever get out of here I'll f****** kill all of you then we find out that she has confessed all over town we had people coming in all over the place testifying affidavit as if she said I killed my f****** mother and my grandmother I'll do it to you and I got her on the witness so watch this the state jewelry tries him his conviction gets over turn the Florida Supreme Court throws it out says that he is obviously there's obviously a real problem here in the state instead of saying you know what we screwed up here they double down and it happens in all of our cases very rare not all of them most of them or the state comes up with a new Theory and said well that must have been old blood from her cutting herself and they had no explanation for why are mother's blood is mixed with her blood in her bedroom why are mother's blood is outside of her window I demanded proof there and there was incontrovertible proof so Watch What Happens there's a blood swipe on her mother's ass her mother is struggling to get out of the house and the the killer grabbed that her and pulled her pants down and there's a forefinger blood swipe and I always thought it was weird or three-finger Bloods excuse me and I always thought it was weird that there was only three fingers and blood that someone trying to grab at her so when I had her on the stand I said I got a court order to take pictures of her hand cuz I wanted to see if there were scars on her hand and she lifts up her hand and her pinky is bent down like this and I said what happen your pinky she said cutter and a severed my tendon that's exactly right I said was your hand like that on the night that your mother and grandmother were killed she said yes and I looked at the prosecutor and I said have you seen enough they don't quit I had they just want to win and he I'm happy to report that after her examination and then an amazing examination by my co-counsel Mari Palmer which explorer was the bunch of other lies the ex-boyfriend the ex-boyfriend's current wife came in and testified that he told her that the daughter killed her and that she snuck out of her house that night his house that night climbed out of the window and then returned later in the night they dropped the charges in the middle of his retrial and I got to walk him out off of death row and in Trump's America they would not they put an immigration hold and it was like out of a movie he got walked out of the prison to immigration and there's like a mountain crowd outside of immigration on we still don't know how it happened I got him an immigration bond and walk them out of the Immigration Center that night and to Jason's point I have never other than the birth of my kids marrying my wife hitting a homerun in Little League I never had I never floated like that Fighters winning world titles that you've no better feeling than to restore someone's life one here's a crazy part I was called myself on the back watch this I've skipped one retrial the first retrial I was in front of a judge the same judge that denied him post-conviction relief said I don't care that the daughters blood is there that she confessed I don't care watch this she denied him conviction relief and she he didn't get his case overturned in the Supreme Court her credentials to serve as a judge in a death penalty case had lapsed after his case gets reversed she files for special dispensation to become a death penalty judge and says even though I don't still have my credentials I want to be the judge on his case seeks out his case they're seeking the death penalty and she denied him the cons National protections that does US Constitution said that when you death qualified jury if you violate these rules the case is going back on appeal and I would say to her your honor you don't understand we're going to be back here again and you can't not tell the jury don't research the case in the hallway they're going to research the case in the hallway and she was she wanted to kill him in at one point I stood up and I said I'll tell you something I had to go at her so hard I find out that she was the judge in the Trayvon whose husband represented George Zimmerman and wouldn't recuse herself so all of a sudden the paper start picking up that I'm clashing with her and courts and I one point had such a run-in with her that I sat down and Clemente was crying and I said I'm sorry I thought he was going to fire me because I went out with her so hard and I said I said I understand and he put his arm on me and he said she's going to kill me please keep doing so I kept I just kept going at her and she finally had to declare a mistrial because a juror came in and said that they were all researching the case in the hallway and that they thought that he was listening to music because he was listening to the translation on the headphones so to get exonerations it is such a grueling fight and if you meet Clemente he's the most gentle kind human being and is still an immigration limbo and to tell you what a great man this guy is in there in Florida like fighting like I'm thinking there's no f****** way I'm going to get him off and he's calling me going to listen when we get him out I'm going to get will get him up in an apartment and will pay for this and pay for that I thought he was crazy I said this guy is no f****** clue and you know I'm such a sewing his dad and I am so in all of em even though he's my friend that to this day he and I have jointly supported Clemente financially but he pays for his room and board and to be able to be in a position to help these guys and just help them start a life again and you know this guy still believes in America after all that's happened to him he still believes it's the best place to be what happens to a judge like that how is a judge not go to jail how does someone I mean how does someone get away with that she's violating the law and Penny and clearly he's innocent right so she's trying to kill a man who's innocent of the judge that took over the case she had to recuse herself in a fit of embarrassment and the judge that took over the case with such a beautiful guy his name is George galluzzo and all he did was uphold the law and he the prosecutors would come in and try to get rid of jurors that said I believe that you know I'll listen to the facts and I will only get rid of you know I will consider life instead of death and he was just soap and no they have immunity is the short answer these judges and prosecutors one of the many flaws of our system right Jason is that they all have immunity what about these cops fashion how does a cop like that not go to jail how does if you know that what where is that cop now one of them got promoted one of them got promoted one of them God know that the kid was innocent and that they did this many times they do Jo and you know we can't take make a blanket statement dumb and they don't face repercussions and as a result of that and it's so important for people to know this I talk about on my podcast all the time and and Clemente's episode is so wonderful because in in that episode you really feel his Humanity he still has a great sense of humor he still has a joy of life and all the exonerees I find Incredibles is there for 14 years and he was on Florida's death row the other four years were in jails not to be technical but yet he was on death row in in on the podcast on wrongful conviction he talks about how when he went to prison even speak English and he figured he'd remember that Josh and he said he needed to learn how to speak English. Never going to get out of here if I can help in my own defense time you finally got a hard-on he said you want to hug he's such a good and decent guy and he just loves life and appreciate everything but imagine that it took Josh Dubin right one of the great lawyers in in our country that was the moment how is my co-counsel Lindsey Boney and Dylan black southern gentleman who has changed their lives before and when he's he would go into court when he was that guy in the white and he would throw a fit on the f****** innocent who the f*** are you to do this to me early in his court appearances when I knew him he was very so he acted exactly how I would expect someone to act to watch this three days after he gets out I always told him I'm going to get you out of here in jail I would say and I'm going to take you to the beach when we have a beer and I would say to Jason up I'm starting to think that I'm not going to be able to live up to it and I cannot call like two days after he's out here in the hotel and I said you know he got located at this place called the the sunny center in Tampa this property would they have like efficiency apartments for death row exonerees and Jason Goes to me that's my place I bought the property visiting an innocent guy and a half ago now to lose early late January guy death row in Texas named Rob will and I left there and flew to La that was on a Monday I was down there and then food La and ended up going to Grammy's on Sunday and ended up and ended up going to move around some season ever sit in the front row and I had that feeling I was like holy s*** what a week I literally went from Death Around to the front row if you know you know

you were talking about Kamala Harris and I think this might be a good time to talk about this because she might be the Vice Presidential nominee what what specifically did she do where there was someone who was innocent or someone who was wrongfully convicted let me give a caveat caveat is that I know I'll catch it from some people that say you have to do everything you can to make sure that Trump Is Not Elected and I will say that even even she's an improvement as vice president if he does picar anything's an improvement in my mind so with that caveat it would take this podcast and four more to go through she fiercely fought wrongful convictions and was shamed by judges when she was district attorney in San Francisco the case the gate the Gage case George gauge or Gage case where are prosecutors hit ever and they try to protect one she knew that there was evidence that was withheld from defense attorneys once she should have known in my opinion that people were innocent she tried to protect those convictions why because she wanted to continue winning she blocked DNA sheep she went to Great Lengths to try to block a call DNA for people that were accused of a convicted of felonies think about or talking about a $12 DNA test to see if the biological material from a crime that has been preserved is actually the defendant's right she blocked access to that I mean Liberty block access to something like that that seems like that should be a right yeah it seems like it should be in a lot of states that says you cannot get access to it and the rationale behind them open up a Floodgate Of criminal defendants asking for the biological evidence in their case to be tested and making a debate stage and she'll always default to I I stand by my record as a prosecutor and she's never had an explanation that I have ever seen I don't know Jason Jason and I were talking about this before we came on today because there was a New York Times piece by her name's escaping me Lara bazelon Lara bazelon which if any of your listeners want to listen to her if she goes into you know exhaustive detail about specific cases and things that Kamala Harris did and you know the sad part about it that's it right there on the wrong side of History the Highlight the marijuana one that you bought she stood by criminalizing marijuana in this state simple to ignore and I hoped I hope I didn't pick someone else personally but you know will see and I will let her do it for him at this point while I'll support him no matter what who he picks you fix her so be it because I believe we're in an existential crisis and we need to think about this he would have been either dead or still on death row what are we talkin about here we're talking about a test she has constantly in case after case issue after issue and look the people that she Hurts the Most or people of color in this country because they make up you know the big portion is proportion and so it's it's obstruent children threatened with jail time imagine you're single mom you're just doing your best to put food on the table used to work two jobs and your kids are understandably f****** up and not going to school cuz there's no father around That 70s Show in a fight to get out even at look I have a client in New York who is can these people become like family to us I mean he's adopted one of the exonerees is daughter now you know John restivo was convicted of raping and murdering someone with two of his friends to people that work for him he is framed by a cop they take a hair from the victim and they planted in his moving truck that they found out that it was planted is that one of your hair you're going to love this right hair is attached to the human head when you die there is a physiological phenomenon that happens cook post-mortem root banding for a band goes around the root of your hair okay and it happens after you've been dead the minimum 4 hours prosecution's theory is that he picks up this girl 16 year old girl walking home from the roller skating rink with his two buddies throws her in a van they Raper kill her and dump her nearest you can all happens in 45 minutes the way that they finally find out that he was framed his it's a moving truck they searched his moving truck and they fun hundreds of hairs because you should we all shed hair they find one here from the victim and its pristine it's the only pristine hair in the drop no Kinks on it no dirt no debris and there's a post-mortem root band around it which means they had to have taken it from the autopsy after 4 after 4 hours and we ended up finding out that the cop had access to the envelopes where the autopsy was in any event John restivo back to the DNA the perpetrator ejaculated and they had a lot of semen a lot of biological material DNA he fought for years to get access to the DNA finally gets access to it they test the DNA and he's excluded and His Two co-defendants lyrics all right with the prosecutor does is they say okay well there must have been a fourth perpetrator so they start testing in this is a process that two years they start 5 years they start testing every single known male associate of John restivo Dennis Halstead and John cogut and they can't and it's only after that that he gets out he spent 18 years for a rape and murder he didn't come in he is I love him he's like a like a brother to me now but you know he's destroyed you don't come back for what happens to someone like that they have any recourse is there any yeah there's a happy ending in that regard as one of his one of the lawyers that represented him in his civil rights trial he was awarded 18 million dollars a million dollars for every year that he was incarcerated and you know to show you what the last in psychological damage so we got to go to a civil jury for civil rights violations against Nassau County with the bush indemnify this cop that framed him and he got some closure that way to extend that you can get any closer and we were outside waiting for the verdict outside of the courthouse and he's smoking a cigarette and he put out the cigarette need took a paper bag plastic bag out-of-pocket grab the butt and put it in the plastic bag and sealed it put it in his pocket are you doing he said you think I'm going to let someone take my DNA and bring me again you know and I know that's how bad it is so think about that in the context of Kamala Harris to block access to DNA once you get the f*** you're still sometimes in a crazy uphill battle because there prosecutors in my opinion just like Kamala Harris the one that want to win and want to protect that conviction dad in the context of Kamala Harris to block access to DNA once you get the f****** DNA you're still sometimes in a crazy uphill battle because there's prosecutors in my opinion just like Kamala Harris the one that want to win and want to protect that conviction

guy do I hope someday we'll get to be on your show named Alec karakatsanis who's the author of the book call usual cruelty which is like my Bible now and it is as usual cruelty by Alec Alec car cuts on his organization called civil rights Corps and he's been suing cities and counties all over the country to eliminate cash bail because cash bail is at the root of a lot of these problems also so money Bill has existed since thousand years since bail was invented wherever they'll what the long time ago but Bill historically was an unsecured with an unsecured Bond right which meant that which is now actually leading the charge in the other direction but in 1899 they decided to start charging people up front so you had to post bail money to be free until your trial now this obviously affected one group of people for people right because we always what would happen is that soon enough and Alec taught me a lot of this stuff soon enough it became clear that this could be an incredible profit center right there charging people for their own Freedom it's a bill you you can't afford not to pee but if you can't afford to pay it you go to jail so then emerge this Bail Bonds industry post bail for yourself someone will come along and say if you give me 10% of the money non-refundable whether you're innocent guilty what are your charges are dropped in an hour doesn't matter you give me that money I keep it I post the rest which usually don't even do is just an understanding that and you can go home now if you don't do that think about the consequences right so you're picked up for anything shoplifting could be mistaken identity misdemeanors that make up a huge percentage of the jail population most commonly it's just driving with suspended license that's the most common cause of arrest I think of in most places in America driving on a suspended license and they're going to put you in a jail cell they're going to deprive you of contact with your family of your work ability to take a walk of your ability to avoid violence that may occur to you when you're in that sell of all different types and very like your very life will be at risk and so if you don't if you don't have the money to to avoid that you're now going to be subjected to being in jail we have about 50,000 people in jail in America right now as we're sitting here we don't know if they did anything or not. trial and that's why most of them will plead guilty within about 3.2 days of the average time would someone plead guilty if they're in jail where is it they're out and think about this to write if you're out you don't plead guilty and it also deprives you of the ability to defend yourself right so let's say you're accused of attacking meet with your lawyer they don't have time to come visit you in jail you can't get them on the phone rattly you can't take your lawyer to the scene of the crime to show that it couldn't you couldn't have been there because or whatever or the witness couldn't have seen you because the lights are whatever it is you have no ability to mount an effective defense if you're in jail which is why 96 97% they can't fight it and they can't afford to sit in jail cuz they could lose her job because lose their home they can lose their family if they don't if they don't either either put up the money which they don't have or or plead guilty so this is this is a problem that is being addressed that money goes to jail that is such a beautiful way to put it and so so clear because I've been seeing people talk about different progressives they want to get rid of cash bail and how ridiculous that is and what you're saying makes total sense and I've never seen it laid out like that before and I didn't know that there were that many people that are in jail for things and they can't post bail cuz they don't have the money until they just have to wait for trial and what what percentage of our what what percentage of people to get arrested can't post bail so I don't actually know that a percentage but I think it's very high because most people don't have any look up most Americans don't have more than $400 in free cash and watch how this works if you ever want to be if you ever really want to see the inequities here and see how the system is so f***** up go sit you could do it at obviously not now but when when the world resumes is some sense of normalcy go to any criminal court and watch the arraignments all right and if you watch the arrangement so you will see they parade in all of the arrestees of the last 24 hours and they read their charges and they will then set bail then we'll make a decision on bail you will notice two or three things one you'll notice that the vast majority of people and any certainly in any Urban jurisdiction in any big city or people of color and I sat recently watching this happened in Tampa Florida cuz I was working on the James Daley case they did arrangements before my hearing and I sat with a bunch of public defenders and I listen to them wince every time someone of color young person of color is brought in driving on a suspended license possession of marijuana possession of hydrocodone without a prescription and they set their bill a thousand ten thousand seven thousand and they would say well that person's going to get out or they say if you don't want to let you out but if you don't pay a fine of $1,500 within 60 days you're back in he'll be back in I'll be representing him again and you watch as Jason put a discharging machine and you watch how these people of color treated very differently from White defendants and you you can just assess based on the fact that the judge will said you currently have a job know where you living well I don't know I'm going to stay on someone's couch and you start to quickly be able to do the computation you're my world they coming up with $1,000 for $500 and then they will reoffend and end up right back where they were and what it will really be striking to you is that I would I would venture to hi 80s terms of percentage these people what they really need is help with an addiction and if we put a third of the money that we spend incarcerated people keeping them incarcerated on drug and alcohol rehabilitation the incarceration rate would plummet and the recidivism rate you know people reoffending would plummet and not only we don't have to hypothesize in fact what happens it happens in countries that you know decriminalize drugs and happens in countries where there's not such an emphasis on jailing people and there's more of an emphasis on getting him help during apartheid the incarceration rate for black people in the nation's capital where I live is 19 times that of white people and its it still goes on everyday and the benefits for the exact same time little as a few days we're 40% more likely to be arrested for another felony in the ensuing year so because their lives fall apart while they're in jail and then the other guy said that lose their job you catch not show up for work with you than be like I was in jail you know so you know a k a t s a n is kind of tongue twister and so the book starts off on January 26th 2014 charnell Mitchell was sitting on her couch with her one-year-old daughter on her lap and her four-year-old Sunder side-arm government agent entered her home butter and metal restraints took her from her children I bought her to the Montgomery County Montgomery City jail jail staff tickets the city had privatize the collection of her debts to a for-profit probation company which had sought a warrant for her arrest I happen to be sitting in the courtroom on the morning that turned out was brought to court along with dozens of other people who have been in jail because they owe the city money the judge demanded the Charnel pay or stay in jail if she could not pay should be kept in a cage until she quotes that out her debts at $50 per day or $75 per day if she agreed to clean the courthouse bathroom from the jail walls an hour later in a windowless cell Journal told me that a jail guard have given her a pencil and she showed me the crumpled court document on the back of what she had calculated how many more weeks of forced labor separated from her children that day she became my first client as a civil rights lawyer so you know that Mitchell or all these other people are there except they couldn't pay their traffic tickets and what are you you know we talked about single parents right what do you do you're single parent of a choice between feeding your kids or paying your traffic ticket or whatever it might be these are not bad people and the idea that we stand in darkness right it doesn't we don't see that right now there's all this weirdness being brought to George Floyd and the rest of this stuff which is really important and I'm so glad that is coming to light and people are starting to you know really rise up as one right it is as one group as human not as black people or white people or or any other kind of people but together but this stuff happens under it under the shade of Darkness where we don't see it we don't see what happens in the jails and prisons but what happens there in Harris County where Alec one this suit recently in the end now this did a wonderful piece on this but about 20 people a year die in the Harris County Jail awaiting trial right there either murdered or something Sandra Bland died in that jail right and justice system right we have more black people incarcerated right now under control the system then we ever had enslaved in any time in US history Jesus Christ what is that right there's another Jay-Z in there somewhere I asked Meek Mill when he was on my podcast when I put conviction I said how many guys did you meet in jail who could have been another you and he said I can't even tell you because there's so many talented people in there that just you know.

moving to Texas in the month the homelessness is completely out of control there's the overpopulation is out of control the way they're handling this is so bad I'm just upset with the federal government and this everybody can't do so many people that are just financially there's so f***** right now and I think people should be held accountable for but I think people should make decisions based on the way the place that they live is handling this really difficult problem and the way the solution they've come up with in California to jack up taxes the most recent solution was to jack up taxes to 54% but you guys are out f****** mind retroactively back to Jasmine they're bankrupt the state is bankrupt because they're incompetent they're not going to become confident if you give him more money and it's just that they've managed the money that they got very poorly they already have high taxes does a 13.5% state income tax here in California and that the place is still f***** up it's like this is a this is a very telling and Dangerous Time in Al it's very challenging and exposes a lot of things and one of them's exposes that I don't I don't particularly like the way things are run here and I don't like being in a place that has such a high population either I think there's a real problem with living somewhere that has 20 million people + 40 million in the whole state it's so crazy there's so many people here and the only thing that was really keep me around was The Comedy Store and my friends in a lot of my friends are bailing a lot meaner going all over the place my friend Joey's moved in New Jersey Theo Von is moving I think he's moving in Nashville a lot of my friends were talking about Texas people just bailing there's a mass Exodus out of California right now that's crazy cuz I was actually planning to move to LA store in still do shows there I miss all my friends that that work there and that perform there so I'm sure I'll be in town at least a few times a year but I just want to change to you know I think there's other places to live I want to live in a place where it rains you know that's another thing that's like this very unhealthy living in a place where it's always sunny I think it gives you a really delusional perspective it's beautiful for you because you come from Toronto what's 55000 degrees below zero well it's not snowing everyday counter to what people think we do actually have summer and sunshine sometimes it's sunny all the time like this is amazing but after a while it's like it gives you a distorted view of nature you know and I think that's one of the reasons why people in LA are so delusional they very rarely have to deal with actual nature I always felt like there was something real humbling about growing up in Boston because it got God damn cold and snowed so much that you just knew like there were certain point times where you had to submit to Nature you were you had a huddle in is 2 feet of snow outside you just stayed home you just you know hung out with the family you played games you did what you had to do no one's going anywhere the roads are shut down they have to plow it takes days and there's something about that just understanding that sometimes you have to be at the beck and call in the will of nature that doesn't exist in California 20 years or so we get a wake-up call the Earth shakes and buildings fall down to go f*** I got to get out of here and then people move out and then a couple years later they forget a bunch of people move in and then gets overcrowded again but this is like one of the first years I think we're California didn't grow and that's all that's very strange cuz every year California's population just keeps growing and growing and growing and they saying this this is one of the very first years in recent memory where it's not growing so many people are leaving that it's actually not growing so that's very strange cuz every year California's population just keeps growing and growing and growing and they saying this this is one of the very first years in recent memory where it's not growing so many people are leaving that it's actually not growing

with insects research in particular I feel like the text research was the carry the coal mine because we saw this coming decades ago and that one Professor Michael Bailey at Northwestern University there's been a long history that's ugly between sex researchers and transgender activists and Michael Bailey wrote a book I think was 2003 that really enraged to some activist and I have to say trans activist don't speak for all transgender people live in many trans people who've reached out to me over the years telling me that they actually agree with me but I feel activist tend to be the most vocal they tend to be the most aggressive and so after researchers saw what happened to Mike I mean in the book I talk about the things that they did to him some of them were very unethical really they really tried to ruin him professionally in and his personal reputation as well and so after that I'm not touching the subject because it's just not worth it so I think that's one part of it I think also with lot more broadly with this ideology that students are being taught this and they graduate the go out into the real world they get jobs and a lot of people even five years ago I would say dismissed a lot of this ideology especially on gender they would say that's only Academia that is not something that's actually going to affect me and my real life but here it is it affects everybody there's no way that this is not affecting you I think it's just a question of how much do you pay attention to it send me messages they tell me about when they have training at work they tell me about their kids education like at the book I don't just talk about transitioning children talk about the idea that gender is not a social construct it is not a spectrum I talked about how it there is a relation between gender identity and sexual orientation which you're also supposed to not say apparently I talk about sex differences and these are all things that are considered taboo and I don't understand why we're not saying that this information justifies discrimination against people in fact I'm always very clear to say that it doesn't think this is one of the reasons why you're so important because you're obviously a very intelligent kind person and you're not a hateful person and you're not in any way discriminating you're looking at this as a scientist and you looking at this as a person who is very frustrated by the fact you can't discuss science particularly when it comes to really critical aspects of people's lives which sex and gender I would love to talk to you about what you decide though when you said that there's no not a spectrum when it comes to gender that's a common narrative so what do you what do you mean by that like there's not a spectrum so they aren't you genders and so gender for 99% of us are biological sex is our gender biological sex is determined by gametes which are either eggs or sperm so there no intermediate gametes so gender is either male or female validates existence of intersex people are transgender people I think we can advocate for equal rights for those communities we don't have to re conceptualize what gender or sex are and and also for intersex people in particular most of them want to live within the binary they want to live with either male or female they don't want they don't want gender or sex to be collapsed into a kaleidoscope or a Galaxy or whatever else I mean this is what that's pretty crazy not just a spectrum but a Galaxy 200 billion types is that what it's like like it's all the stars that's crazy when you say there's there's just two genders of Roswell. Getting rich people write but second of all you will you can see that there are very feminine men and very masculine women and if so if that's true what what accounts for that it goes back to the prenatal environment so I definitely don't deny that their gender atypical people I as a woman I look very feminine but I'm actually very generally typical I've always felt more masculine and even to this day I feel much more masculine than feminine budge I've always just my friends are always boys and guys and I've always felt I just always felt more like a man just like you feel like a man right it's gender is one of those things in terms of how we describe is so personal and that's why I feel it's important to focus on the evidence because without that what do you really have so it would it really what it comes down to testosterone exposure in the womb how can I say this is hard for me to not go in and digging into personal examples right now but I would just say I've always been more like boys if you look at my boys baby girls babe I've always been more like the boys enjoy your interests and you're in the fast cars very odd for sure so this spectrum that does exist even though there are 2 genders in your opinion a male gender to female gender actually very concerned about and I am all for this now use whatever pronoun someone wants me to use I'll be respectful my issues when people again say that this is backed by science when it is in and we're also not talking about what it's actually about so for a lot of people who identify as nonbinary I think it's coming from a place of sexism in society or homophobia so a lot of people who identify as non-binary especially among people who were born male and then decide to be non-binary or four people were born female many of them don't they feel a lot of discomfort on their bodies that changes the experience being a woman they don't like the attention that they're getting they don't to be sexualized for some of them they get it and they have exposure to pornography at a young age so how do I avoid that will if I be if I become something other than a woman I will not have to experience this and no one is saying to let me know whenever one pornography I'm not anti p*** do you know I used to ride for a very prominent men's magazines so I have no issue with that I just think we have to be able to have a conversation saying you if you feel different that doesn't mean you shouldn't be a woman or It's Entertainment so that's not what sex is going to be like when you get there we have to be able to have a conversation saying you if you feel different that doesn't mean you shouldn't be a woman or fourth aggressive pornography it's It's Entertainment so that's not what sex is going to be like when you get there

writing a book you're literally inside working all the time so it's plain to people with the book is so the book is called the end of gender and before I go any further I'm going to explain the title because some people I think misinterpret what I buy when I announced it on social media because I think they thought I was taking a very very far left Progressive you and I there's basically whatever you wanted to be it's based solely and self-identification you know there's no tethering to biology and that is not what I'm saying at the book at all and I think if anyone's ever read my columns or seen my appearances or are they listen to Art the talk that I had with you last time I was on your show that's deadly. I'm saying I'm saying the complete opposite. The fact that science denial and misinformation about gender is so prominent now is actually affecting is really poorly affecting our ability to understand gender and that's leading to the demise of our understand Reddit an accurate way if you don't mind just to just to start things off will you please give your credentials and tell people what you do I made the transition from academic and being assigned academic sex researcher to being a journalist so now I write about the science of sex and gender I write about the politicization of Science and academic censorship and so now I have this book out and I can talk a bit about how I got here if that would be helpful or yeah so when I was doing my PhD I very much I loved being a sex researcher I really thought I was going to say Macadamia and in the last few years I noticed that there had been a change in the climate in terms of what people could study what people could talk about as scientific experts and one area in particular was about gender transition in children so every single mainstream use piece was saying that for these children who say they're born in the wrong body the best approach for them would be early things that means to take on a name and your name identifies the opposite sex use a good haircuts or dressing with the opposite sex but from a scientific perspective all of the research actually shows that most of these kids and vast majority of them are more likely to grow up to be gay and adulthood they're not going to be transgender and at that time there's literally maybe one or two that called into question the narrative transitioning so I wrote an op-ed about this sighting the scientific and I asked my colleagues and mentors and Academia you know what do you think I knew that there was going to be some backlash to it and one of my mentors said to me cuz I said should I wait until I have tenure to put something like this out and he said nowadays 10 years are going to protect you so that still my decision I published the piece and then from there I made the transition to journalism and I haven't looked back The Sciences there's a there are specific narratives that you have to adhere to in today's climate you know I like um also left but when you when it comes to saying like far-left like far left is a different thing now that used to be far left used to be I mean 10 just 10 15 years ago was a different animal and I knew a lobular far-left and now far-left associate with lunacy it's a like a look at it the same way I look at far-right I look at far-right extremists and farther but something happened we're far-left ideology has permeated our culture when it comes to gender and I don't understand it I don't hit it if you don't adhere to this ideology people want to say that you are you have no compassion your evil your bigoted I had Abigail Scherer on the podcast recently and she has and she's very brave and I saw what happens when you go against his narrative Men's Health wrote a piece about me saying I'm Fanning the Flames of hate because she was talked about a four thousand percent increase for thousand percent increase in teenage girls identifying is trans and Rapid onset gender dysphoria which is real me this is this is a real scientific thermometer to 70 times what you would see in the general population play talking about awkward teenage girls and about how these girls have you know really odd situations in terms of the way they deal with people socially and then all the sudden they're praised for deciding that they're trans and then they give these clusters of friends that also decided they're trans which isn't very strange it's just a very strange phenomena but you're not even allowed to talk about it so if if Men's Health which is it was a f****** men's magazine is going to write articles calling you a hateful person because you're discussing there's no hate in that podcast at all it was just discussing it like what is causing this why is this and what what can be done and why are we so quick to justice mean we at we we can assume the people are troubled in all sorts of different ways but we can assume they're ever troubled when it comes to gender it's it's very bizarre I think what you were saying with why it's going so far left I do think a lot of this is coming empathy which is a good thing and I have to say with regard to the issue with transitioning children I do support to this thing in adults I think it can help adults who are transgender I think if you were an adult you it's your decision is your body it's no one's place to tell you what to do but I think a lot of this is coming from so I grew up in the gay community and I remember seeing how homophobic people could beat or my friends and I think things have changed things have gotten better in some ways I think so homophobia still exist talk about that because I do talk about how that affects a lot of what we're saying in the book but I think for a lot of people they look at that and they say okay we were wrong about that we were wrong to treat gay people differently we were wrong to say that being gay is something you can change so now they've gone completely it in the opposite direction saying okay no matter what anyone says with regard to their identity with regard to their gender this is something that we should not challenge we should fully support and if you would question it in anyway even in the most nuanced or sensitive I tried to and I said Thank you do but still not acceptable it's it's an ideology it's rigid it's like a religion it is it is I think I find people who are not sure what to think if they read my work or they talk to me they said aloud never I never realized that I didn't know the sign said that and they change their perspective but I think for some people if they are very much invested in the Identity or very very invested in activism or for whatever reason is ideology mean something to them it's you cannot you just cannot reason with them it doesn't matter what the sign says they will find something to pick out and especially with the assistance which is that that the research I was mentioning where shows that most kids will not feel generous work anymore when they reach puberty they they just people some people cannot accept it and they will call you transphobic they'll call you bigoted children from making potentially a very bad decision that they're going to regret and especially now we're seeing in the UK that this happening where more detransitioners are saying this was something I regret this was a mistake why did the adults not challenge me I really think so right now we're in August 2020 I think within the next 5 years or maybe a little bit longer we're going to be seeing an explosion of children coming out and saying I did not want to transition this was a mistake and it's really going to be awful prominently UK recently about a young girl who transitioned to do you know the lawsuit I'm talking about because they she's essentially ruined her body to the point where she's not going to be able to have children she's chill you know she in in too many cases why these girls can have orgasms ever again I talked about this the backlash after is just crazy and I'm thinking people need to wake up I'm trying to stop this from happening right the whole point of writing this book and saying these things is trying to prevent was about to happen the backlash is it's it's very strange because I'm a lot of the backlashes from trans folks and it seems that they equate any criticism or any any examination of even children even small children transitioning to transphobia you must hate and I get there there has to be some trans people that as children knew that they were women or they were the opposite sex it that they were in the wrong body there has to be depressed and how do they make that decision and how many of us are actually being influenced by other factors external children are very malleable and that's part of the problem with making lifelong decision as a six-year-old if you're a six-year-old male and you decide that you're a female and you go to the transition and then you realize you're a gay man later in life there's no recourse there's nothing you can do to rectify that that's was terrifying about this that you're not allowed to talk about it you not you not allowed to say that even when I do point that out people say that I'm using the gay community to try and as a shield or something like that but it medical professionals need to be the one do their job because it is their job but they should be doing proper assessments with these children and adults to to determine you know what is the best way for it's for you and that's the only way they can really determine on a case-by-case basis whether transitioning is going to help somebody but they can't do their jobs right now everyone I know that is a circle in the field has left or they stopped working with these patients because they don't feel they can do their job properly so what do you have instead of the people who are currently operating are activists and they will really whatever patient wants them to do whether or not that may or may not be the right thing for them how did we get to this point know how did we get this one first of all and Academia you come from Academia how did we get to this point where some subjects cannot be discussed we're like you were talking to other professor and they were saying even if you get tenure this is not going to protect you I may not be the right thing for them how did we get to this point know how did we get this one first of all and Academia you come for Macadamia we get to this point where some subjects cannot be discussed we're like you were talking to other professor and they were saying even if you get 10-year this is not going to protect you

Ortega this last fight or take a did I felt like the the thing that really was surprising to me was not necessarily that he's like oh now you've trained strike and you're doing really well at the Striking was like those in between things that he was doing that I was like I've never seen that most UFC fighters like just that in-between thing that he put the glue together 10 Saint John is very dangerous very dangerous and Brian neutralized neutralized everything he looks so smooth and professional at everything he was doing look so good and Korean zombie said he doesn't remember anything of the last three rounds doesn't remember them as my buddy got hit with that backs behind elbow sometimes guys get ko'd and they'll go back to the corner of the light is at the sac around its V around and like it is yeah it's the fifth round come on man you're losing the fight like I am I thought it just started like they literally don't remember fight and it's cuz they're they're literally can cause he got bumped while they're inside the ring episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

the other thing that's coming out tomorrow is a tapeworm apparently Rudy Giuliani tries to f*** a fifteen-year-old allegedly where they've got other people and the article that I was reading last night is the death of Journalism so goddamn apparent when you read articles and then you see the actual thing and you do what the f*** did you just right cuz this is not what it is this is like these take some things that are so that it's the summit hyperbole in the Summers exaggeration and buy us until we watch it we won't be able to is one of the most underrated comedy films of all time is good but special if you like weed I wouldn't recommend it this month sober October but when sober October is over Ali G indahouse I actually bought a UK version of a VHS player because it was only available on VHS from the UK okay even the series was unavailable over here driving long time long until I do the conversion was a DVD and was an all-region out of mine all regions player and because it like players were limited to like certain reads it was really weird I don't I have that too like a secret like menu you could switch it back and forth me and Eddie Bravo got barbecued and we watch this and could not stop laughing f****** hilarious movies really ridiculous so apparently that that comes out tomorrow and Rudy Giuliani is allegedly trying to f*** a fifteen-year-old but it wasn't really a fifteen-year-old she's in her 20s playing Emerald really gline speaks out about on Borat 2 controversy called it hit job over Hunter Biden campaign Jesus Christ looking for Hunter Biden is laptop in there somewhere I guess he was saying he was cutting in his shirt but why would he do that Tom Johnson sunglasses cuz sometimes they put those things down your pants and you do got to get in there to get the wire out if he's taking the microphone off and also get my back here like drop it down my jacket and put it on the back here then he's put it in his pants share that thing digs in your back I've had it in my front pocket before but the thing is like the gal that being pretty good about not showing either not showing her I don't want to know like did he know that she was supposed to be 15 or did you just think she was a girl and this is all speculation right she is in her twenties and she's beautiful the problem is he's gross and he's old and a if she was on would have to see the footage but if she was being flirtatious like he's he's helpless he's under a spell maybe not anymore maybe you forgot top lawyer for the most f*****-up Administration in the history of the United States so it's like that just the legal s*** he's been battling back and forth to shitshow yes it is a big old bong just not forget you on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around photos of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

you got what I called whiskey philosopher wisdom like if you and I were having a couple of drinks at the bar I have a feeling you would say some cool s*** that I would remember and I would take home I'll go might be like lying in bed going to I'm going to remember that that makes a lot of sense would you get that from conversation down to what's a one-liner What's the title of that song we just sang What's the title of this you know this hour or whatever you and I talked What's the title of a relationship I have slowly developed I mean again I come from a family of Storytelling so we sat around the table and told stories and if you didn't tell your story good somebody else took it over and you better be telling a good story and not dragging on to lose your train to talk to somebody else will step in and roll over you then you better be a good storyteller and because I am I look back of the Diaries I really couldn't admit that I wanted to be in front of camera is not after but that's what I really wanted to do but I went to film school because I felt like being the Storyteller behind the camera was something that my dad one could digest as a possible root for word for his son and it was all that I could digested the time with direct actors by performing myself in front of the camera I really like that... The first person subjective performance and then I got that that job in that summer of 92 on dazed confused or ended up three lines turned into three weeks work I'm getting paid 320 bucks a day people tell me I'm good at it I keep you invited back to set I'm like is this legal you know I didn't have that story of roughing it when I first got out there first two auditions I went on I got the job in front of the camera like what do you think was holding you back I think it was avant-garde sounded so European to bring that up to my dad and I found those where I wrote to myself before I even consciously admit it that I did want to be an actor all the way back but I never admitted it until I started doing it and then returned in about 1993 there was like okay I think I can do this I'm giving it a shot and I love this form of self-sabotage if it came that easy if all the sudden you're on Dazed and Confused all the sudden you do your first two auditions you get the gig everything's rolling you're young and handsome Wu, I mean how did you self-correct 96 after I did a film with time to kill I remember the Friday before time to kill open that's the movie that Dad that I was the lead in a big-budget John Grisham movie that was the one that made me famous all right so the Friday before that movie opened a hundred scripts I want to do 99 know you can't 1 yes you can I'm walking on the Third Street Promenade Santa Monica all the sudden that same Promenade walk I took 400 people now 396 and 4 people weren't one of them is blind I don't need any strangers anymore people are coming up to me going like I'm so sorry I'm 23 that time I love you I love you and in my mind I'm going man we don't throw that word around I said that the four people in my life and I was looking for a place to go I need to get out I needed to go of demarcation we talked about earlier I need you to go break a long sweat I needed to go out let memory catch up see what the hell was real packed up my stuff and went to a monastery for about a week and then I got back and I went off I had this certain dream everpet repeating drain that came to me and I went to Peru and plug the Amazon for 22 days and it was a forced Solitude nobody there knew my name didn't speak English I thought in my own company which I was not enjoying so after about 12 myself Ford what I was going to lay down the hammer and say enough's enough about I came out of it woke up one morning light as a feather and shook hands with myself and said we're going to be alright man you're the one person I can't get rid of McConaughey so we might as well get along and re-entered recalibration helped a lot to disseminate through all the b******* and all the excess of you don't there to do that I've had to take off of my own many times to go recalibrate that sounds like a story of a man running in the Rocks fall right behind them like you just missed it like also 23 years old you weren't a child star but it was no damn close like we all know what happens when your personality develops in the spotlight and you're famous almost no one gets out alive I understand it I I wasn't ready to go out to Hollywood before I did Holly was not a place to go find yourself I was a place where you can be anything you want it's infinite yeses will in the infinite yes as you know the internet options go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

watch contact again not I haven't seen contact in forever and first of all a great movie about aliens like like a movie that it gives you a different perspective on the possibilities of contacting and just the fact that it was a Carl Sagan book and there's just so much good to it that character that you played was is a fascinating guy and I kind of feel like there's some of you in that guy sure I mean that you are you are wrong here you are religious and someway absolutely and I want to bring this up in this day and age when people go no I'm not religious Emily spiritual the Latin root of religion is Ree leggari and leg are a mean buying together RI means again well on a world they're saying I'm only spiritual because I want Unity that's exactly what religion means we bastardized of the meaning of it overtime and we've excluded people and we've corporate Isaac such but yes I am religious that character it just make it that movie Life Sciences the Practical Pursuit Of God the two or non-exclusive belief in science and I never saw those is contradiction. And that's part of what the reason I view of a believer in the world of science and not exclusion of belief yeah it's a confusing role for a lot of people if someone is a Believer and also a proponent of science because they want to know what are your literal beliefs like are you taking the Bible at its literal word or do you use it as some sort of a guidebook of the experiences of these people that live thousands of years ago that have been translated from multiple different language back to English and is their wisdom in those translations their wisdom in those original thoughts these thousands of years of people contemplating and and mowing on these things and that so many have used these as a scaffolding for morals and ethics and for societies it's a circus book on Believers and I'm like was still the best one going there's a lot of great truth that that that that come out of the Bible and it is open for you like yourself I do know what to do with Matthew 6:22 if they IV single that whole body will be full of light I do know what to do with some Proverbs that I can take him to daily practice and go I felt my life felt Improvement I felt success in my relationships in my relationship with the day with my career by following that by treating others how I wanted to be treated the Golden Rule when you sit when you say you don't know what to do with the burning bush look pretty what do you mean by that I don't know what to do on a daily basis with the teaching of and then he you know and then he here he showed up as a as a burning bush of the magic tricks and I don't know what to do with in Jesus healed everyone that he couldn't walk did you can practice their so the magic that leans in toward you know what we would call no more fancy I don't know what to do with that ifas is philosophy's this Proverbs and is teaching a very valid and very helpful manipulation and that's where people have a real problem with it when it's used for to two separate people to exclude people to marginalize people to judge people but it's it's hard for people that understand that those aspects and that those things happen to actually parse out that there is good about it too and that there's a lot of really valuable lessons in these books I get it I mean you know what what our fathers teacher says your father still alive you weren't following all that stuff no you take the message through this is the stuff that you can that was that could work for you that maybe they wanted it for you they couldn't follow through on it themselves there certain parts of the Bible that had that to you don't brought the whole the whole book Art's the Hotpoint on a Hot Topic right now you can erase someone's entire existence where the heck does some forgiveness go again that like optimism it's not erasing the problem first in the wrong way but you don't throw the whole book out and say well it's all it's all bad then difficulty expressing this in Hollywood you know Hollywood is predominantly left-wing and very secular or Jewish and some circles but it's not like a place where Christian fundamental values or espoused openly you know a lot a lot of Jewish folks are in the Hollywood and that seems to be okay with a lot of people but some other religions particularly if you are a fundamentalist Christian work Christian values a lot of people frown upon that why what why do you think it is and if you have you had difficulties with that I have had and Minecraft that I have prayed with before dinners many times and when I think I saw some of those people go to clap but then noticed at I have seen that I will witness that I don't I don't judge him for it I just wish you know that it seems like a silly argument go to the illiberal left side so far so condescending and patronising to 50% of the world that need the empathy in some ways hypocritical to me run into you know I haven't head-butted trouble on that but I've always you look my my crew of pretty much gone my own my own path and by hooker by crook go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

story about I had a teaching tool that has to do with something I'm I pulled off in Hollywood for my kids not big on delayed gratification and you know after I won the Oscar for best actor my kids like what you get the trophy for Chucky in and you wake up next morning I was gone again and you said I look like a giraffe cuz I was so skinny what I was doing for those 30 days when I was gone all day a year-and-a-half later somebody said Dean that excellent work and they gave me a trophy for that work what I did a year-and-a-half ago build you can't do something today and get rewarded tomorrow and it was it was an example that worked for them of understanding you know that you can that you can get you can invest and make choices to engineer more Roi and these physical transformation rules when when an actor does something will you realize like they're there literally torturing themselves I mean when you would it how what did you get down to how much should you weigh at Wade 135 and look you know this I was not torturing myself I was militant hardest part was making the damn Choice it was my responsibility if I look like I do now playing Ron Woodroof in Dallas Buyers Club you are out of the movie the first frame all bulshit once I made my mind up I did the smart thing I gave myself 5 months I got on a diet or I'd have tapioca pudding or whatever 3 eggs and egg whites in the morning 5 oz of fish cup of vegetables for lunch 5 outfits cup of vegetables for dinner as much wine as I wanted to drink and I lost 5 pounds a week like clockwork treadmill and burning 2000 calories a day or not 2.5 pounds a week Clockwork and what happened in that time is another reason that I really didn't charge my cell when people say oh my God has been so hard as I can. What I learned from it if I drink my wine to warn the morning at 4:30 a.m. no alarm clock thing I was up every morning incredible amount of mental energy I had no leverage from a neck down my knees I had no insulation anywhere you know my body would hurt when I try to run 10 feet but from here there's some things I miss about it I think on a cellular level I felt my body going hey she's a baseball term you got people over there on the bench in The Dugout then you got people out in the field that her you know sitting in the in the in the bullpen not working out on a cellular level because the buy body's not getting when I getting what we used to get we're not placated by what we used to get our installations gone rrr what we were lying on its got what we used to rely on is gone so I think my whole body woke up and my brain got relief super super sharp pain that as well so I think there's a bit of a sharpened up and made my brain on the cellular what do you weigh normally 188 so you lost 50 pounds do this where it defines their career in someone Robert senior when he gained weight for Raging Bull Christian Bale when he did The Machinist a guy or a woman just transfer Charlize Theron she played monster they transform their body and it's it's a different level of of commitment When you entered into that filmed it was this the first time you've ever had to do that yeah you got Jack for that I don't know how jacked you were before for that Dragon movie I'm sorry I forgot the name of chiffon character viewer Jackson that movie we jack normally did you have to get Jack for that movie I got more Jack for that look like our family might we we come from a carnatic in the McConaughey's have big tricep there's nothing like standing in front of the TV doing all this eagle or what you doing Dad look at him and he's got these baseball-sized biceps look at him while that's the one that puts a roof over our head S4 do the triceps don't wait around for Dallas Buyers Club because I was looking for something to be consumed with revolved around my wife made me Mills trust me I didn't go to Pizza Hut and say no thank you the pizza I'll have a salad I did not even put myself in front of temptation all day long is it good to have the singer Obsession you you cannot go far enough that was for the freedom and freedom I've always found you cannot go far enough doubt those are thought process launch that we're going south and it kept going south so that was a bit scary because I kept losing the way because my body has gotten that it already gotten in the in the rhythm of losing weight and I can shed and turned a blind eye on getting any more food so there was a tough transition there for about 2 weeks to get my way to balance out again how long does it take for you to physically recover from something like that way back to normal I thought that when I saw you and when I saw you that and skinny was like he's eating his body the only day I looked I came back and did True Detective after that and I got on True Detective I got to that 167 in hell and I love that way as well cuz I had a little more leverage at a little more athletic ability insulation around my joints but I was still free stripped and ripped slowly coming back from that I did learn this I had to come back very slowly cuz I'd heard stories about people that go well now I'm back now I'm going to gain weight I can eat as much as I want and that you you can go back and look deformed you can give your features can come back if you rush it then come back and odd ways so I'm very slowly with the weight back on I didn't get a roll few years ago I guess is about 433 years after. By the way I put on 47 lb so I was 220 what was that and my family loves me in that role cuz I was Captain fun I was yes to everything milkshake for breakfast you got it let's go now that was I've never talked about it that time I was still mentally sharp not as sharp as I was when I was down at 1:35 but at 2:20 The Beatles through the roof during that time my coming back from that I still got a couple things on my back here around the way some like where'd that come by that came up with that Roland golden still doing hanging around and wait before I look a little different than the 188 before before Dallas Buyers Club it's a different 188 so it did take a physical toll sure I would say you know even you know neck and things like that you know the neck and ended the same but we're just getting older I'm not sure but yeah back down to that weight at 1:35 if I try to sprint in 10 yards and buckle I'd no insulation get it into my head and that's what I was thinking like this is going to take awhile to bounce back from like I almost forgot how gaunt you got it was it was striking episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

this is something that I want to discuss to cardiovascular disease and heart attacks the difference between the rate of cardiovascular disease and heart attacks today versus like the early nineteen-hundreds there's a giant spike a big change same as other crafts we can essentially the same the same reflection on the graph open up angle that you would not want to skate you know and it and I guess the question what is driving this one because we were eating more saturated fat in 19 we're eating way more saturated fat in 1800 or 1840 and the only animal entirely about half mono and half saturated monounsaturated fat saturated with a very small amount of polyunsaturated so to say that it's driving this doesn't make a whole lot of sense of correlation but the complex striking if you look at little egg acid so and you look at the molecule is polyunsaturated so it's a long-chain carbon and polyunsaturated me that has double bonds between the carbons and those double bonds can be oxidized when we talked earlier and its formation of lipid peroxides will those molecules polyunsaturated fat and monounsaturated fat any unsaturation point in a carbon skeleton molecule like a chain lock a fatty acid oxidation and then limit oxides which are lipids didn't have electrons stolen that double bond then those are more susceptible to those are more reactive with other lipids and they created with the peroxide reactions and then you're getting oxidative stress from the lipids and if you look at the moment it's the reason one of the reasons saturated fat is bad for so long that because it raises LDL but if LDL is not denote causing atherosclerosis then we have a whole different equation because this is one of the big question that I was going to eat an animal only diet for a month or what about your cholesterol what are you going to do about your cholesterol does not raise cholesterol in your blood lipids and they just glaze over and then like well it's just most people don't have the time to research this or to get the weeds and to try to shift their perception about what cholesterol is about the the benefits of cholesterol the necessity of cholesterol for the human diet for production of hormones so let's get into that LDL and HDL what is the difference the LDL is low density lipoprotein and it's formed from vldl after it becomes idea which is intermediate density lipoprotein so when you eat fat in your diet it is then generally in triglyceride form which is packaged into molecules chylomicrons which move from the intestines to the liver in the liver cholesterol which is actually a steroid backbone molecule is packaged with triglycerides into a vldl a very dead low-density lipoprotein particle it's a bus and moves triglycerides and cholesterol around the body because their nutrients because they're essential for human life because like you said hormones are made from a cholesterol backbone and if you do not have cholesterol May 2nd I was a genetic condition called smith-lemli-opitz syndrome which is a mutation in one of the enzymes that makes cholesterol is pretty far down in the pathway but a lot of these kids die in utero those that are born have severe retardation both mental and physical they're extremely resistant they're extremely susceptible to infections and they have a lot of problems with sleep and diabetes mother issues because they don't make cholesterol they have extremely low LDL because I can't make cholesterol in the liver probably in peripheral tissues either and so the way we treat these kids with egg yolks we just give them tons and tons of dietary cholesterol and hopes that that will be some sort of a supplement that they can use to make LDL as their LDL goes out they do better than never going to have a normal life but there are so many studies that point to the value of low-density lipoprotein and if we just think about evolutionarily why would nature why would Evolution have design a particle that kills us with in our body that at the time defends us or infection so there are good studies in animal models that show that if you knock out the LDL receptor in in in mice and rats they the levels of LDL in the blood drop a lot and those mice and rats are protected against infections so they can Infuse bacteria gram-negative bacteria those rats in the higher levels of LDL are protective why that's not as quiet as you can be so misleading but higher levels of cholesterol are correlated with lower admission to the hospital for infectious complications we definitely see an animal models and essentially with humans with the smith-lemli-opitz genetic model that lower levels of cholesterol predispose to infection because LDL low-density lipoprotein put an empty box LDL leaves the liver is vldl a full bus drops off people along the way becomes a less bulbous vldl becomes LDL HDL but HDL and LDL both have roles in the immune system so why do we think that a molecule with the protein particle that's an indispensable role in human biochemistry is killing us ask the doctor that doesn't have a lot of nutrition training about HDL and LDL what would they tell you very high-level they would say HDL is good LDL bad you want less LDL and you want more HBO why would they say that because there's something called the lipid hypothesis in the living hypothesis is that essentially in a concentration dependent manner LDL ends up in the arterial wall and so they would say if you have more LDL it's just going to cut a leek in the arterial wall because it naturally gets taken up and is more LDL end up in your artery wall you get more atherosclerosis in more plaque what's the root of this hypothesis it's a lot of epidemiology mendelian randomization and genome-wide Association studies so this is really interesting we should dig into this so if you look at if you look at basic epidemiology so let's just think about I wanted to find it so people epidemiology is essentially an observational study there's no experiments on they're giving people surveys and their evil following them moving forward prospective or they're looking back at what they've done in the past or retrospective study epidemiology can generate correlations between positive inference from that data we can have a correlation which we didn't test with an Interventional study LDL test with Interventional study but there's some really cool stuff here that starts to break it down if you look at overall cohorts of people so I can look at the Framingham study for instance and you look at LDL on the x-axis and incidence of cardiovascular disease on the y-axis actually have two graphs of this and I'll show you that I make no make it really break it down so if you look at those two and you don't do anything to this in the lipids and CDD folder see that CAC LDL only graphic so if you look at this this is the basic data from Framingham okay this is correlation this is epidemiology increasing risk of cardiovascular disease on the on the y-axis LDL on the x-axis okay it's things like this that make people say oh yeah LDL It's probably causing atherosclerosis which is the formation of plaque within the arterial wall Jamie CAC LDL HDL so this is the exact same data stratified by a third variable and this is what it's never consider with LDL in my opinion the lipid hypothesis is flawed because it's incomplete it misses the third variable or fourth variable in this in this stratification we look at HDL we've looked at the quote good cholesterol which we really don't know a whole lot about probably on immune participant HDL levels do correlate with metabolic Health synonymous with insulin resistance so what can we say about these people this is the exact same thing that I split into four four lines hear those with the lowest level of HDL are the most metabolically unhealthy these are the most obese the most likely to have Corner in the most likely to have diabetes most likely to have insulin resistance you can see they have a pretty good risk of relative risk of cardiovascular disease most insulin sensitive there's essentially no correlation or the correlation is massively different between people with a high HDL good metabolic health and LDL increasing that make sense sword it says increasing LDL is very little increase in the cardiovascular disease risk with high HDL over and over and over in what if you just have high LDL and low HDL then you probably have diabetes and in that case you have then you're in trouble so the issue is not a LDL it's low HDL while the issue is reflected ethology and or insulin resistance the issue is insulin resistance metabolic dysfunction using HDL level as a proxy for metabolic healthier what is an optimal ratio of LDL I actually It's tricky because there's a whole group of people now right so have a good friend Dave Feldman who's doing his engineer super smart guy doing a lot of really cool work on this and they're actually about to start study with lean mass hyper responders within the space the carnivore ketogenic space there are people who begin eating this way and they see their LDL go up significantly so some people don't see LDL rise but I did I have a pretty high quote LDL and within the space with high LDL to look like me pretty fit active don't have chest pain don't believe I have cardiovascular disease we can talk about my blood work and what I've done to confirm that but that's a whole group of people called lean mass hyper responders and hypothesis which I agree with completely elevated LDL alone is too simplistic a metric mainstream medicine gets hyper focus on LDL or more specifically 8lb which is proxy again for the number of LDL particles add contacts to your contact is that I don't believe there sufficient evidence to say the high LDL and somebody that's metabolically healthy is the same as high LDL and somebody that's metabolically unhealthy third variable we have to think about multiple variables and you're so if you stop eating that's been demonstrated multiple times in studies fasting raises LDL hibernating bears hibernating bears Sierra rise and LDL but I don't develop atherosclerosis over the course of their hibernation. There's actually a screenshot at the bottom in the lipid CDD folder Jamie and I'll pull up another study here with the hydrating bear studies pretty fascinating the Bears a thorough hibernation so we see this over and over in humans that fasting raises LDL fasting raises uric acid but fasting people who fast people to do ketogenic diet they don't take out they don't get atherosclerosis in quite the same way as LDL call credit for this that actually got a set of slides that'll probably make it clear when I talk about but these hypothesis is that if you are burning mostly fat as energy and even some carbohydrates can be burning mostly fat as energy you are going to be moving more LDL in your blood to move that fat around and we certainly know that interventions can do that and it makes sense when you fast you're defeating liver glycogen your ketones are going up and you are burning fat you're not burning as much glucose you're burning more fat free fatty acids are going to go up your your LDL going to go out there at least I didn't look at this and thought are you telling me that in something that would happen routinely for humans fasting like we talked about intermittent fasting unsuccessful hunt that's killing us in a way that's causing atherosclerosis that doesn't make any sense and it's really doesn't happen in Bears another hibernating mammals LDL will rise as our primary fuel now distilled we're still kind of trying to figure this out Dave's had you just text me this morning is about all this really great stuff but the whole idea of what LDL is doing anybody I think I've been misconstrued and misunderstood again the lipid hypothesis would say the more LDL the more after this grossest what that's the case if that model is the notion that LDL must cause atherosclerosis to Nova itself because it more LDL an LDL is causing happens if I don't think anyone who subscribes the living energy model is going to the bank that but is LDL causes atherosclerosis the novo why don't we get atherosclerosis in veins why do we only get atherosclerosis in arteries there's the same amount of LDL throughout her body paint in our system and so why are we developing plaque in arteries but not veins we never see plaque in veins unless they are transplanted into the arterial system things going on in the case of arteries versus veins the prevailing hypothesis is that it's an ethereal damage so the inside of a inside of a blood vessel is the end of helium and something has to damage the endothelium for this to happen it seems and tire pressure system of the arteries seem to damage the end of helium in this network of glycoproteins on the surface of the end of helium called the glycocalyx lower pressure at least this is one doesn't seem to work and studies like that was Framingham make me think there's a third variable so if you look at the general population sure you might see a correlation between LDL and cardiovascular disease but if you look at it a little more precisely or a little more carefully you start to separate out those who are metabolically healthy which granted is the minority from those were metabolic Leon well if the majority of people aren't deciding about feeling well of course it looks like there's a correlation but what about this group over here you and me metabolically healthy and are LDL goes up is that going to cause atherosclerosis I think that is paltry at best and is not there and this time we are eating a diet that we believed to be in such really consistent why would that kill us write an episode of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but only be available on Spotify but they will be freak go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

in the 1930s from 1935 to 1942 or 43 did a series of studies I think it was in Sheffield England I've got to study I can show you and they had conscious objector to the war and they had them take different amounts of vitamin C to see how long it would take to get scurvy and doses as low as 10 mg of vitamin C per day could prevent scurvy the experimenter with conscientious 30 Sheffield on conscientious objectors to military service 10 mg of vitamin C prevent scurvy play there there between the 70 mg Opana 10mg group there was no difference in canola oil comes the prevailing thinking is a 10mg is not enough for Optimal Health but we don't actually know there are four roles of vitamin C beyond the formation of collagen which is the main thing that gets broken when we see scurvy or at least that's the physical manifestation to get bleeding gums or teeth fall out this is all collagenous tissue a connective tissue in the human body starts to break down because you can't hydroxylate Proline residues on the college and molecule but when you look at it be on that there's actually some pretty good studies I'll see if I can find one definitely got one in here that shows that if you look at people eating they did another experiment with excess fruits and vegetables and they had one group that had small amounts of fruits and vegetables and now we're going to skip up to 70 that compares 70 mg of vitamin C per day from low fruits and vegetables to 270 different outcomes in those people and one group has low fruits and vegetables one group has high fruits and vegetables and how long is a study I think it was 8 weeks is that long enough to see a detrimental effect or positive net benefit increase DNA damage we measure it with his marker called 8 hydroxy to deoxyguanosine with a frog information of the USC it starts a pretty quickly when you get lower levels of vitamin C the higher vitamin C group with more fruits and vegetables certainly had a higher level of vitamin C in their blood but they didn't have any differences in terms of those markers so this one is what about the benefits of vitamin C and fighting off a cold and infection right so the internet's most generally failed if you have a virus I take vitamin C yeah I'll show you this one so if you go to the Vitamin C folder Jamie and then you go to the Vitamin C from an evolutionary perspective study you'll see a list of all the Interventional studies with vitamin C scroll down to the table to so one more table down that one COC these are Interventional studies of vitamin C and there's an RCT there for the common cold it's a meta-analysis actually which 11306 participants and there's no effect on the incidence of the common cold so this gets into the interesting conversation about epidemiology and I know you know about this the way that epidemiology is so misleading for us and if you look at the association of vitamin C in the blood in association with better outcomes but when we do Interventional studies we don't see it and within the table you can see no effect on mortality no effect on the incidence of the common cold no effect on cardiovascular events and essentially no decrease in systolic blood pressure with intervention no effect no incidences of no effect on the incidences of the common cold but what about once someone has a cold emergency and all these different vitamin C supplements this is what always claiming is that taking it while you have the cold is what's going to reduce the duration of the disease concluded that vitamin C supplementation has no effect on the incidence of the common cold however a modest reduction of symptoms was consistently found in reviewed studies maybe so so good while you have it maybe while you have it so if you have something then jack up the dose vitamin C the complex there are many things which can lower vitamin C as well so metabolic dysfunction decreases levels of vitamin C in our body so the playing field is not always level right okay so if you have a cold your vitamin sea level is going to be lowered to be lower if you have a baseline of Health in super element of the current coded conversation of a baseline of ill-health are Baseline metabolic dysfunction sometimes synonymous with insulin resistance per a given vitamin C intake lower levels of vitamin C in the body so if you look at animal foods like if you eat nose to tail. In a couple ounces of liquor per day and some meat per day and other organs you can get pretty close to 70 milligrams of Vitamin C a day which is basically the RTA already might be 70 or 90 products to think of just eating tissue muscle tissue episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

Nintendo plant is very clear here it's saying if you eat too much of me I'm going to affect your thyroid negatively and that's going to affect every other hormonal system in your body so yes sulforaphane can be beneficial because it turns on or antioxidant response system but also has many side effects which are ignored and we see this pattern over and over and over this one was fascinating over and over and over with fat molecules and then not why would argue the benefit is not worth the risk because you can get your Nrf2 system turned on without those molecule because you can do environmental hormesis you can go in the sauna you can exercise you can fast you can be in ketosis but really good studies in cold water swimmers in Berlin and they're show a show that cold-water exposure so they go and they swim in cold water for like an hour and they'll show that there glutathione level goes down meaning they are oxidized level a goose sound goes up the reduce the Bluetooth and goes down there using their indiginous antioxidant molecule one of them which is glutathione to mitigate these newly produced oxygen radicals these free radicals in the human body produce by Cold Water swimming and then the next day they'll see their glutathione is a little bit above normal or miso's argument is can we really say that plant molecules give us a net benefit I don't think we can redundant effect we can get this Nrf2 system as antioxidant response system turned on without them and then we're getting all of a downstream negative side effects of these plant molecules have there been any independent studies that show people taking like broccoli sprouts and then doing it for a long. Of time measuring their system and then doing environmental hormesis and seeing if they they measure up well there's actually studies that show they have two groups of people in police if you want their studies that compare people that essentially no vegetables or low fruits and vegetables the high for tonight Beatles and then we'll compare them at for 8 or 12 weeks and at the end they seem no differences in the oxidative stress markers the inflammatory markers markers of DNA damage so it's pretty Shaky Ground to say that invariably all the studies of fruits and vegetables show that they provide this benefit in the short-term so for Thane can create more antioch's in response to get more glutathione but if you take it out a little bit of time it doesn't look like there's any difference between people who are eating things like broccoli or Jerusalem artichokes or carrots or cabbage vegetables compared to a group that eats none of them so there's these inventions any differences between these people that's bananas so all the people that are thinking that they're doing a good thing for their system by taking these vegetables and fruits that have this for your he has a somatic response where you can have the exact same response from cold plunge from sauna from exercise you're turning on the exact same system in your body but what about the vitamins that you're getting from Plants right there are there are there essential nutrients and phytonutrients that you get from Plants what about those so this is really interesting when you look into it there are really this is going to sound extreme when I say it but I'll back it up there are no nutrients in plants that you cannot get from animal food in essentially equivalent or more bioequivalent forms how come when cats eat an animal that go for the guts first and then they'll actually eat the grass it's in the guts of the cow or I don't know why. I don't know in in animal Foods right there are many nutrients and animal foods that do not occur in plants and we know that B12 but the list is much bigger vitamin K2 choline carnosine carnitine answering touring the list is extremely long but you can't say the same thing about plants there are no nutrients that our current plans that you can't get from animal Foods nut vitamin C you can definitely get vitamin C liver heart muscle it all has vitamin C shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

trafficking another thing that we don't talk about that is another thing that this goes in and out of the news we were talking about on the podcast the 39 or 35 kids that were rescued in Georgia and it was a blip in the news like how and let me Wausau thousand articles on how mean Ellen is human trafficking what is a u.s. marshal 72 million missing children 72 missing children across Indiana Iowa Ohio and Georgia in the past several weeks the past several weeks so what is what is this is where the yard like that US Marshals rescued children this is where liked all the qanon people good cry I think the Donald Trump is secretly working behind the scenes to stop child trafficking and that the there's like some secret cabal and the government they wants enable this s*** and then Facebook bans qanon and they said everyone's going crazy now this child trafficking child trafficking like what what do they how do they infiltrate useless local law enforcement that recognizes some abnormalities of the behavior of some of the children usually it's certain area certain shops or businesses that are kind of harboring these people a lot of them just get stopped because I mean it's kind of really odd if you're on a van or an 18-wheeler and then there's like 20 kids in it it's weird and we as a culture have got to work with local law enforcement to start the curb this thing because that's where the rubber meets the road I don't know if you saw the story I know if you can pull it up survey if you saw the story about the flight attendant that helped out recognize the abnormality of a girl on a flight by herself and it saved her life police round trips we got to police our own if we are just acutely of acutely aware of the abnormalities and the behavior of young children who clearly are under duress we cannot turn the block a blind eye to it Primetime news that should be leading 72 missing children rescued so it can't be just that they're randomly discovering what these kids in a truck or they see a kid on a plane acting weird that's how they catch everybody how are they infiltrating account because there's there's also a bunch of guys that former spec ops guys that are there working to fight child trafficking how are they doing this so this'll into this in my opinion and my opinion is actually and I will be huge favor this I've literally starting a separate task force to address this and known hotspots the other what we're finding out as to answer the question that we're finding out as to how they were infiltrating is really if you go to Hubs of the world like Houston you go to coastal cities where people are actually bringing people into the country that's exactly what you're going to find a lot of it so if you hang out around these areas then you'll see a lot more but you'll discover a lot more of it and so Houston has become kind of one of those hugs because of his Geographic locations it's it's actually Niro Port City and obviously people are coming through port cities at a higher rate cargos coming through at a higher rate it's or actually able to track that a better rate if you just kind of hang around the hoop you'll find it so how are these people communicating if the government can use programs like Edward Snowden revealed like how are they how are they organized in these things and where they getting these kids from the kitties kissing Baxter all over the world a lot of them are coming from impoverished communities I'm alive and recovering from impoverished countries in the shippening the shipping them in a lot of pain from the Asian countries actually and the us and this is something that that. is particularly with having two girls now and that is it's also my job to continue to protect them and all of these young people has actually young boys as well as not just it's not just young ladies it's actually coming up on them to keep them safe and we can't keep them safe and what are we doing here literally like that's how I roll now and the biggest thing is this there clearly isn't Titanic really is a culture for it what I want to do is how do we place extreme punishment on those who behave in this taking this Behavior that's what could be happening right now we have got to stop them we have to stop the Predator from feasting on our children what's demonized at 100% of people communicating through the dark web but they're doing it through forums of a doing it through either using Code like how are they doing this for all the above communicating through just open email inboxes they don't hit send but they have the password for multiple emails and I'll just go in get the message and then never open or closes so it's impossible basically to track this is like a OIC and so other people have the login login and password in subject because of things like pizzagate the subject became so taboo that no one wants to talk about it cuz it sounds Preposterous cuz pizzagate was so Preposterous guy shows up and with a gun looking for kids are tied up in the basement that was like oh my God nobody here everyone's wacky these child sex trafficking this and that are trying to stop his they're all crazy people but that's not really the case the problem with something like pizzagate is it it it it confuses everybody and you start thinking that all this stuff is nonsense but then these stories they they make it to these websites and you see that this is a real thing these are real news stories but then they don't get talked about man shame being mean to her sister is so bizarre and it's such a symptom of how how sick we are as a culture and that our per our priorities are so skewed and that this is sort of accentuated by our addiction to social media and the people are concentrating so much on things that are trivial and nonsensical what's up buddy I found an article on router the mainstream media is been reporting on this so like that I'm looking through pages to find out details on different reporting of this ili mall in finding this on is like local news like what does that mean it's not being reported that we have a giant problem like this in this country that's what I'm saying angle according to what like the US Marshals done here what's 1 + 4 of these kids so if it was 25 kids picked up at six or seven of them were human trafficking the other 25 20 or so are like kids that ran away or kids that were being abused and they said they found them cuz they were missing some of the missing for two weeks I'm up to two years. Not every kid is in a human same kind of thing so they're collecting and then they like reporting the number so I think getting the collecting these 35 kids over a. Of time and then there were reporting we found 35 cuz he gets a month later they found 35 two heads one from September which would have been reported five weeks ago says that they recovered 25 missing and endangered children over the last month 1 and 4 was part of what they believe in alleged human trafficking situation but so it seems like there's a finding missing kids and a percentage of them happened to be apart of human trafficking and now here's the question how many of the kids that are being human trafficked actually get discovered more finding this five-year six-year these it's terrifying it's terrifying for fathers mothers and it is you know it's like the fact that we're brothers and sisters the fact that I could be someone close to you yes on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st is available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

state taxes be worried about all folks like me moving from California give me your tired your poor come on a Texas but you gotta understand something because of low taxes and low regulation and you want to live your life and Liberty and make sure that you can protect yourself and your family and that means you have to be a certain way and that's why we kind of our texts don't turn this place into what you flat that's exactly right yeah that's what Matthew McConaughey was telling kind of put that out there. But also understand that there's there's certain things that are just not wise yes and a lot of those things are ruining California over-regulation California to Texas the taxes are so crazy there and they're trying to raise them up to 16.8% and then what do you do with that money fuk it up worse you have more money to f*** things up I just don't understand their logic of of opening and not opening things and especially now when you look at the deaths like they want to talk about koe with cases to cases are low but not that high and the deaths are very low and it's like it's kind of got a handle on what this is you can let people open up their businesses you can let people wear masks and be careful and take care of themselves and take vitamin D and zinc and vitamin C and we can we can at least get back to some semblance of normality but they do want to do that for some weird reason and this is the one that drives me crazy they keep saying after the election trying to hide the fact that have to do with anything Amber third how is that your science point it's not again this is what makes Texas Texas we just believe in Liberty we believe in allowing and empowering its citizens to make your own personal informed decisions for your own life yes if you want to take the risk then then we allow you to do is more tigers in captivity in Texas than all of the wild of the world I did not know there's more tigers in private collection syntaxity in Texas than all of the wild of the planet Earth episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

I'm also not a big fan of a government saying when an industry is supposed to end yes I'm a big fan of the government in power in the private sector to innovate to get to the next affordable renewable source that's going to happen is my opinion the Jeff Bezos doesn't get there first the first trillionaire in my opinion who is already born is going to be the person that comes up with an abundant renewable source for the future that everyone can afford now I get the green New Deal what they're trying to do but what's not addressed in that is global warming and the operative word being Global if you don't get India and China and Russia and Africa and South America to reduce their carbon footprint with us you can literally destroy the oil and gas industry here in the US at no gain to the globe that doesn't make sense to make that is such an important Point that's so important it's not a case of if we build it they will they will come by all this works in fact our energy Independence is also an issue of National Security as well we're energy-independent why because of fracking that you want to do away with by 2035 as well if that's your National agenda it's a we're reducing our carbon footprint because of fracking because natural gas burn cleaner years ago we would kill a bad guy in the Middle East and then we have to turn around and ask the same countries for resources and oil interest if you could imagine of course so we don't have to do that anymore so when we kill qasem soleimani outside of Baghdad airport who was the bad guy responsible for actually killing some West Point graduates actually in a rock we don't have to ask him for a while so this is an issue where we have to marry economics in a and of course make sure that we are good stewards of this earth right but right now this roughly 1 billion with a B roughly 1 billion light trucks and vehicles in the world today that are gas powered over the course of the next 20 years the world is going to add another billion vehicles and of that billion 750 million of them are going to be gas powered again California problem it's a global do we have to take a look at from a defense standpoint I flew Apache helicopters and we have a joke in the Army how do you know if somebody flew Apaches we will tell you we always do and what's funny about the Apache in about destroyers in about f-22s and that's you can't fuel them on solar and wind we literally not going anywhere for the next few Generations what I want to hear the relationship to is more the idea of us working with these oil and gas companies to innovate for the future and they want it to it's a matter of time until we get there but let's bring them along with the conversation and not demonize them and have somebody that's Houston born-and-bred this is a conversation that's near and dear to my heart because of anything energy capital of the world and I am all for solar I am off for when I'm all for Renewables I get it with a combination of all of the above not not no more conversation now let's what is the green New Deal can you lay that out for us yet what what are they what are they looking to do one big thing that Joe Biden talks about in what Bernie Sanders was talking about as well as being carbon-neutral by 2035 which effectively is an end to the oil and gas industry on states that that's one that's 110 it love it another one is fracking bands and again as I just articulated this is a very technology this actually reducing our carbon footprint also just more restrictions on oil and gas companies to be able to drill and find resources as well and it is a job killer in Houston Texas particularly as we recover from covid-19 and we've been hit pretty hard because you notice the only gas industry has been hit pretty hard to start it off with just a obviously a shortage of of of demand because people just stopped driving and that really drove cost down tremendously and so we have to recover from this thing in the way to do it is not to employ more restrictions on an already hurting industry that quite frankly has got to be around rather you like it or not also the byproducts of petrochemicals as well this microphone this month your phone hydrocarbons the shoes on your feet it's all byproducts of the oil and gas industry and so what people don't realize is that the chair is that they said in the silverware that they eat off of where they eat sleep breathe and live the mattress that they're sleeping on fossil fuels deliveries are going anywhere I understand the benevolence of the green New Deal is always good in theory I got it singers in the world could be discarded neutral that sounds great that sounds great but that's not how this works we are always about progression this country is always about Innovation and progression we've been doing this for Generations let's continue that progression by enabling again the private-sector to innovate to the next level if you're paying attention to what the green New Deal and I think for a lack of understanding what the industry does for the world is there in the green New Deal is there a solution for what they deem the problems of the oil and gas industry do they have a replacement for those resources so therein lies Point hydrocarbons are a storable energy that have a lot of power in and that's actually reason why the world uses them bottom line is is this you can't turn the lights on the world can't turn the lights on in the US can turn the lights on for the time being without a will in gas when they want to gas industry if you were able to miraculously even attempt to turn this entire country into a renewable source it's just not possible I don't know exactly what the numbers are but we would actually be able to fuel less than last I read 8% of our world of of the United States has energy demands able to completely transform to renewable resources so that's just wind and solar wind solar and Battery lithium ion these kinds of these because one of the things that is really uncomfortable for people is that nuclear power is one of the cleanest sources of power that we know of it's just we know about disasters as we know about Fukushima we know about 3 MI when we know about all the Chernobyl we know about these disasters which in many cases are indicative of old technology just like Fukushima they they really know how to shut it down with his f****** bananas at the side of the building anyway mind-boggling where are you have very little environmental damage but that's a you just bring up nuclear power never is like we're freaks out in the past Technologies we didn't have the ability to be able to really create something without understanding what the worst outcomes could possibly be do you think over the course of the last 50 years we've actually advance to know more and to be able to do better to be more effective now we probably do this of course we have right but it kind of goes back to you on the gas industry as well we have the over demonization of an energy source people just as we were talking about fidget shut it off it becomes a headline that's it looking for Tesla that you drive that is a technological Marvel and advancement in itself and now we're producing it on a mass scale thank-you Elon Musk and again even the production of the Tesla that that doesn't mean we do away with the oil and gas industry L we can have both let's continue to do both so from a nuclear standpoint also think that that's gotten demonized as well because of some incidences and we need to realize that from a technological standpoint we are further along than we were before let's pursue this left in power these companies to come up with a safe way of building these these plants and also making sure that everybody can stay safe in the future what I've actually heard discussed that's a kind of fascinating is technologies that could be on the horizon that can actually pull carbon and pull particles from the atmosphere that they can develop essentially in Cummins air filters that can be used in high pollution areas and in our cities and urban centers and they actually can pull pollution out of here and potentially use that carbon and it can actually be a resource that's exactly right there well if you can push it out can you extract it seems like you should be able to me we were extract Anthony atmosphere right I mean that's how they make a lot of fertilizer that's right there's got to be a way to take that carbon out and again people want to look at where we are right now maybe we aren't there now right but we can easily be there in the not-so-distant future 450 years ago we were riding horses yeah bananas it's hard for people to once they have it in their mind that they are doing a good thing like the proponents of the green New Deal they are doing a good thing that's the way and anyone who opposes that or anyone who even has debate about it is on the wrong side you are on the side of the fossil fuel industry you've been paid off your shelf you don't care about the environment you don't care about our children and then they'll proposed it this way. this person does not care about the future of this country we're going to burn look what's happening in California this is Trump's fault this is like we're discussing this in the podcast yesterday it didn't matter who became president in 2016 the exact same conditions would be in place here is battleships in an enormous think it's hard to turn around you think that somehow or another of Hillary Clinton was President that California would be on fire right now exact same thing would be happening around it play say to people that have to have this conversation with then again I have two kids at the house and it is my opinion at this point with two baby girls that it is incumbent upon us to make sure that we hand them a better world than we inherited yes we were you know there's times when I'm alone while just go I can't believe I have children I can't I can't believe that is a thing that a person who comes out of your own DNA is not walking and talking and hanging out with you yes yes and destroying our living room free with me you must be evil in this is this is our purse or you must be naive or you must be foolish this is these are the perspectives that are the narrative that you see on social media today which is where so many people are forming their opinions and then arguing them and it's Insanity it's it's such a crazy time where people want people I was having a conversation with a friend of mine today they were talking about this new social media platform with this person was arguing don't hear people's opinions what we need to do is be platform them like what insane so everybody has to agree with you and you don't I don't even know if you're right you don't even know if you're right the way you find out if you got to talk to the people that there's a lot of times I've talked to people what are they proposing in terms of replacing fossil fuels and the these things were relying currently to power everything and have the country running exactly how it's running now and therein lies the problem they're not they're not so what are they saying that when they're when they're questioned what are we going to do in 2035 in terms of like how we can keep the lights on I have no idea really and this is this is literally part of my problem and that is if you weren't going to tell me a substance is viable Solution by it's so so if you want to say that's it's not my fingers like Thanos that's it we're going to be carbon neutral okay okay so what's the path to do so what resources are we going to use to get there how are we going to replace these resources and again I'm not a climate denier I keep saying it over and over again but but nothing's being proposed that's rational and reasonable that's actually addressing global warming completely leaves out the other countries it completely leaves out the globe that's problematic dates of the valley we discussing it at all they just conveniently it sounds good on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after the only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the photos of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

one thing that I wanted to bring up we talked about before the podcast that I actually read a whole article about we were talking about on the podcast where did not Chris Cuomo was really lifting a 100 lb barbell now us talking about it on the podcast for believing that Chris Cuomo really had this 100 lb barbell or dumbbell very light it did look very light but so my thought was how big is Chris Cuomo lb lighter than me so very unlikely that he's carrying that Dumbo ride like that so then I'm like okay I got to ask some people who'd actually know so I sought out some people online and at one of them was Rob Kearney on the podcast before he's world's strongest gay oh yeah I know that guy currently a pound-for-pound strongman title I believe it he's not a big guy but he's only about 5:10 maybe but f****** gorilla stronger so he says to me so I say to him if you ever seen the thing and he says I just watch the video I think it's fake LOL he doesn't look to be bracing hard enough for it to be actually a hundred pounds he's he's a real expert right so he's an actual strongman so I'm pretty convinced so then I asked Robert Oberst who's in all also Robert is f****** enormous absolutely want to strongest man in the world he's a Goliath and stable but the video where he's at his desk showing the weight off he moves it around out at an angle that would be the smallest head of the top of the biceps taking all the weight and it doesn't even faze him cuz it said if it's real he's stronger than anyone I've ever seen use a dumbbell I'd say it's a 40 lb weight with a 100 lb written on it he said lots of instafamous lifters have fake dumbbells and plates deferred of that what it does when he's sitting in the chair at the desk there it looks very light a hundred pounds is a lot but 182 pounds for a man is 6 ft 2 is not a gorilla like Brendan Schaub okay Brendan Schaub was doing that I go do that Brendan Schaub is 270 lb to in lb it didn't seem quite obviously didn't look at it close enough and I also I don't I'm not a lifter in that sense like I don't I don't live heavyweight like the heaviest should I ever lived is like I might squat a couple of hundred lb kettlebells doing like a functional movements that use your full body so I'm not in that lifting world but if you wanted to talk to like you have to talk like that but like CT Fletcher YouTube to broccoli bills powerlifter do to really understand there was the one that's okay it's a little uncomfortable that I'm sitting right in front of you and I'm not in the list of people that you're asking because on my Peloton there are three and a half pound weights that sit on the back of the seat and then once in a while you have to take those out and curl them sometimes and he's going to work out okay City 200 lb says he went from 218 lb to a pretty lean 200lb he cut out so they cut out of b******* cut Dairy and bad sugar 2014 cut back booze so is 200 pounds is body fat plummeted to 12% Okay so he's handling that weight like that I can't handle that wait like that can we see the video jacks on man I wish I didn't have my jacket on I would be showing what's up what's up so much bigger than his right you was joking around about the Bony Flex you like Jesus just like alien head in there it is when he does that well he's doing that he's not even straining there's no sin drinking at all in his back everything looks too light just doesn't again and Bradley he puts like weights on bars and that has girls hang on the bars and it's sucking press ISM he's enormous he's a YouTube famous lifter he's doing deadlifts on the bar that the episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

you know what I did want to talk to you about yeah I watch the social dilemma LG's dude you know that's a must-see kids I heard it's depressing what was his real life real I miss playing in this plane only That's Heavy no no because I've done a lot of drugs I think there's probably some melting I think there's something else I think of something else out there but just unaccessible right now but this social dilemma makes me very concerned about the future because all of these technologists and all these people that have invented all the stuff that now or very unhappy it's really fast discussing their own creations and see Outsiders are also take you didn't didn't invent these things we're seeing the patterns these things and understand it from you know the really educated perspective they're saying this could lead to Civil War like people are getting more and more divided and it shows in the film how social media has made people far more polarized far more divided than ever before the the red and the blue and the Destroyer got it but the thought bubbles that the fact these people getting these these bubbles of thought where everybody around you thinks your way and everybody thinks a different ways the enemy yeah this is really dangerous part of the reality that we live in today because it's not what we anticipated I thought that the internet and the age of information and all that we're experiencing right now would bring about an understanding in a nuanced perspective yeah in life and always achy bilasita people's perspectives more more easily because it'd be more readily available and it would be more encouraged for you to seek out all this information but a bunch of factors that happened the same time all have sort of made it worse than ever before there's social media and the divide that comes in this is where the social dilemma comes and plays feel there's a divide that comes about because of the way they've engineer these algorithms which is disturbing yeah whatever you're into is finds those things and accentuates it because it would just want you to stay on more he wants you to engage more she wants you to pay attention to the thing now Ari shaffir did a little bit of a study on this a little bit of a test and he only YouTube puppies that's all he would YouTube just YouTube puppies just just to see what happened and all YouTube would send him all they would show him all they would suggest is puppy so this idea that their engineering outrage is a little disingenuous cuz they're really doing is finding what you're interested in and people have been shown to pay attention to what they disagree with far more than what they agree with so WingHouse things that people disagree with things that make people upset things that people are much more likely to engage with especially when you don't feel like you're really you're being heard right when you're at home you're sitting on the toilet and you going through Facebook and you see some s*** about what the f****** burn the flag few motherfuker how do you start start making these messages you're more likely to do that then seeing some beautiful story about these parents adopt this kid and they they give him a home and bath Hardware like that you're not going to go going so many people think Trump is responsible for the wildfires listen folks those f****** fires were going to happen regardless of who is president now whether or not he is putting in policies it's going to protect people 10-20 years from now that's a real argument it's yeah but the f****** fires that are going on right now or not because of trump it takes a long time to turn that Battleship absolutely phone and I have an Android phone my Apple phone is my primary phone and I use my Android phone more to f*** around with than anything but I'm f****** around with a few things on it and wanting things is how well it picks up your voice and how well it transcribes it so here's the right apple is much better with your privacy they're much better with your privacy like when you use Apple Maps it's not sending your data to anyone but it's one of his my Apple Maps is not as good Google Maps are better tearing it itches better they just they're getting data constantly from you they're getting data from all the other drivers if sharing that data they're compiling that data and they're also sending ads your way to profit off of this to make it profitable so because of that because Google is just sucking up data constantly they can provide you with better services so there they have an amazing search engine there but that was more things about the social dilemma search engine gives different results based on where you are like say if you type that use an example climate change climate change is it might say a hoax or climate change is a terrible threat depending on where you live but it's not good people's dumb ideas.com DuckDuckGo does not do any of that stuff it also it gives you things it it's it's it doesn't send your data somewhere protect your privacy results for the things you're looking for but it's not doing it in a way where is curating it for your own interest like as you try to find things that are controversial lufu try to find them in the podcast before but Jamie will Google something and I'll know it to be correct but Google will not show it is correct because maybe the correct answer is not politically correct so you have to go through several pages and maybe even have to Google it a very specific way get to the heart of the science behind what's wrong with the Kansas opinion the consensus opinion might be wrong but that's the case with a lot of nutrition things it's the case of the lot of a lot of things regarding like anything controversial anything where you were there's a political motive to to cross-reference stuff to really try and assemble a truthful opinion it's it's weirdo hard stuff we were saying like what we did or Facebook it was horrible and we really kind of things up do they feel like they can also correct this problem I don't know if you could put the the cap on the bottle and I don't know back in and he was saying that 12 yo we created Twitter we had no idea that this was going to be a situation that we had to anticipate no one ever saw this coming and when you would remember you would do the app it would always show your name front of every tweet is having pizza we will just like no one knew what to do with it and then somewhere along the line people started figuring out how to get in arguments make it more aggressive in reinforcing their idea what the truth is and trying to stop other people and you seeing so much suppression of other people's opinions and expression today which is so strange yeah it's just it's one of the weirdest times ever 2 to look at the way human beings communicate yeah because of the tension people are their desperate they're sad and then you got looting and you've got the riots and you to get racial tension you got violent you got this anti-police sentiment which also leads to more instability in the streets more instability and in the cities unless safety and fear fear fear of fear police fear of gangs fear fear of antifa fear white supremacist fear of everything with all this f****** fear and have people arguing online really literally addicted people people were addicts right there just as addictive addicted to Twitter and they're constantly engaging in conflict unwell people because almost everyone who's using it in that way is it in one way or another mentally ill you put your phone in the drawer and you go to the park and all the sudden after you get shots down because you wanted to defund the police you're just living in real life and you're not participating in all that's what we would all hope for the problem is there so many people that are doing it yet but they're doing it on Facebook or Twitter or arguing what it whatever things are arguing about it's it's spilling out into the real world that you're in the park being all then and I was in a flash mob shows up go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

reality kicked in four days what did they give everything are you sure the first thing is a trial drug that hasn't been approved yet they're not just handing that out at Cedars is that the first thing keep that from you so they stay sick so they can get biting into the White House everything about that all right now wait a second ramping up the fear a hundred percent making scarier than it is so they can get him and the other side is definitely don't worry about this thing so it makes it looks like we did a good job in the economy comes back and all that stuff so I'm like this cognitive dissonance like what is real what I watch Tucker Carlson he made sense for a minute and then I watched that's not involved in this election Spain France Moscow the Netherlands all opened a little too much and now we're all putting restrictions back everything's spiked look in other countries look at Sweden because they opened up completely and they have less cases and now they're back to normal they have no masks go to a bar no one's I'm States smaller country less people they they live in different sort of circumstances they have mostly smaller Villages right other than Stockholm but yeah they're fine I know but if you look at Spain and you looking for bracket Moscow me these places there's no political agenda in these places there's no political agenda it's just they opened up and they said let's go all open and the case has skyrocketed and bring it back a little bit it's this is a real thing eating all these extra humans and you know describe is that the virus isn't eating all these extra humans we have extra humans right now we have way too many humans and something showing up and scaling us back a little bit what is a level 4 lab and it got out Sweden to remain for at least another year restrictions are very different options there for a really large Gatherings but you go to restaurants you can go to bars and get all those places text a human they told me that this pilot was talking to me at the show and he said his doctor of some note we're saying that all of our pandemics I have lasted eighteen months despite what we try to do restrictions no restrictions it runs its course 18 months is about where you live fire starts to subside you go back to normal historically speaking and this one end because it's a hundred years in between pain Nobody's around to like give you lessons from the last ones we make all the same mistakes and if you go by that it's about June from when this virus started were talking about June when we're back to normal which is kind of upsetting but kind of nice also that you have an end date you know it's kind of like right that's annoying I got to do all this stuff and be kind of messed up but till June that's kind of nice I can maybe make some plans I can make it a Fourth of July how many businesses are we going to lose between now and June 5th I think that the real the real issue is people putting restrictions on what people can and can't do that's the real problem is you're basically giving up your constitutional rights and there's there's no real protection for you this way right there's no real protection for your business is no real protection for your livelihood well even because even with all this and you're still dealing with other kinds of Horror deaths and other kinds of horrible things that go along with the economic Despair and how many people are going to die because of drug overdoses or the middle ground but their businesses are open and droplets which is the reason for the whole 6-foot social distancing space they don't think that's the case anymore they think it's Airborne so if that's the case all that social distancing stuff is horseshit because it's in the air but not if your social distance and have a mask on I'm telling you the social distancing thing doesn't mean anything anymore got you what they're saying the wire there's an opening in the top is opening in the side there's a lot of us some of the droplet then maybe I'm not a scientist neither you saying is I don't know how much I think what you're getting is you getting a lot of people that are healthy and they're going out and they don't have it and then I giving it to anybody cuz you don't have it in you getting away with it and everybody's wearing masks and it's good to be cautious but I don't necessarily know if you were in a room filled with people who had covid-19 n95 Mask real mask I don't know if those f****** cloth Master going to help you I think they work I mean cuz look at you look at these places on I'm basing it on cities where they have the mask as a as a thing and they made it mandatory that you wear these masks and the numbers go down that's where a big kick in the virus that was a giant uptick a lot of people out there just bumper-to-bumper with each other here right next to each other and screaming you want to do all the things that you can't I want the steroids are Trump's on that's what I want them to and I want the vaccine I want shift at the Rock dad when he's doing Jumanji that's they gave him the game all the good stuff cry in front of your mom so you stayed healthy I never cried on my opt out of your car window to get your driver side window has been treated with dexamethasone and immunosuppressant steroid that can cause euphoric mood changes while there's this tweets that's doing wheelies on the parking lot online about their own experience with the drug interesting and immunosuppressants you you actually don't want the immune system to react to violently to the disease we have cuz I'm stupid I try to read that article it was complicated like you it made me think how amazing the human body is immune system like their stages of the immune system like originally comes out and gives you a dose of stuff and surrounds the virus and then it goes up and it ramps up and then it reboots and then it like to send another part it was like four stages of what your immune system does and because it has to be ramped up to attack as far as he could actually hurt you more than what is dexamethasone do dexamethasone is a corticosteroid hormone that decreases the body's natural immune response reduces swelling and allergic reaction symptoms asthma medication treats a number of conditions including asthma IBS Crohn's disease and a number of lymphomas it is used to treat covid-19 because serious cases can provoke an exaggerated immune response releasing are a large number of pro-inflammatory cytokines and what's known as a cytokine storm of her that as immunosuppressant dexamethasone is thought to help reduce the likelihood of the bodies over reaction to the virus research has found dexamethasone to significantly reduce mortality among seriously ill I eat hospitalized covid-19 patient scientist have said it may prevent one-in-three deaths among patients on ventilators interesting they threw the kitchen sink at it immediately you should get everything they possibly have here is that in these times where things are very unsure a lot of times people like to say exactly what you need to do in what's happening as long as people do this we're okay as long as we wear masks we're okay and I'm not sure I'm not sure that's the case we're all going to get it that's what I that is that is reality of what I'm saying the doctor saying that goes 18 months but I don't know if everybody gets it you going to come in contact with it and some people's immune systems just beat it on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st is available everywhere but only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download 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people making people don't know but you have been active and you fought up until about what like 2 years ago 2018 so you decided you're done or were you a hundred percent done or were you just at 100%. How do you get this call to fight Mike Tyson he wants to do an exhibition but he wants you to be his dance partner me yeah I said okay well let's see if we can work out is too yeah we got a lot of different situations going on but they want to do it a different format and they want to do it in a way that you and Michael are taken care of and everything is good well that didn't try to be necessarily the case was but me being Roy Jones jr. that's being in cold but I'm like you know what six weeks that's right around the corner he ain't been fight I can get ready I'm pretty sure I can get a little bit more ready than he can because he's been inactive a lot longer than I do six weeks. I know it's Mike Tyson he's big as heck he still might passing these different punch but six weeks is no way to get the payoff of this but I don't really believe much of what was said I mean I just can't believe it you know because we had a September 12th 8 before football season start basketball may have started but people at home with nothing to do and that's why I would like to know what I want him when I was in my Prime so why not take him now I mean 12 in the six weeks that's easy and they said well we got more attention than we expected to get in this happening that happens if I want to move it man so I was thinking about it and then you to my God he posted something about the new date on my site and when he did that they was like what that means that you admitted that you agreed to it I didn't but okay that's how it goes I'll be that guy he know he had no chance better chance to deal with me but his hands still going with rough but it could be better than it would have been a 6-week six-week he didn't have a check immediately start training and when you start raining hot how you ramping up for a fight like that you know it's like I heard Mike say something about he thought he was in the bed for a week yeah I wouldn't be here for a week because I was going for a couple days say oh wow I got a big fight coming up I got to go look back I was excited because it's Mike Tyson so it's like you would say no but this time I was that you know what your brother getting a little shape because you are going there with Mike Tyson whatever Mike whichever mic shows up each other's out I went back in 2004 correct so what is definition of exhibition because Mike Tyson has nothing exhibitionists about it about it I started lighter than anybody only Junior middleweight to ever go in the heavyweight title so I was just smallest guy that will come up when he wait time to think when you're getting ready for work what do you walk around right now now I'm heavier than I was then I'm at about 2:10 now this why I want to be it right there a handfast is ever still a lot of Mobility not too much weight on these knees so I feel pretty good at 2:10 so I think Imma Stay around this area that's not much different than him because when he was in his prime Bush live in the hole with Mike size really matter when you decided to go up and fight Ruiz for the heavyweight title did you think that was one and done or did you think once I win that title me about the fender the few times like what was your thoughts getting ready for that fight so as you know me I'm a man of my word I try to be and I said I wanted to go do with Bob Fitzsimmons did but I was going to add a little bit to it because I was also super middleweight champion which was a division that wasn't around when Timothy this in 1896 it was he won the middleweight title the light heavyweight title the heavyweight title and then he recaptured the light heavyweight title that's a big segment of the whole thing recapturing the light heavyweight title so if I go up and do what I did win the heavyweight title and don't recapture the light heavyweight title I can't look you in my in your eyes and say I do about it Timothy it because I did did but the hardest part is come back from Hedwig And recapture that light heavyweight title that's why I came back I did it but before I depart at the hip with division I would have fought Mike Tyson because of what I told you earlier he was youngest heavyweight champ of all time to me who's won the most explosive entertaining guys you want to see because you never know what he's going to do and it's the same as I'm going in with him right now because he's explosive entertaining and you never know what is gone me and you both of you in that Na song you know that song yeah yeah that's a lie very similar in that regard that you both were so dominant over your divisions when you're in your prime those fights were like execution-style Court why did not fight take place back then because nobody ever saw me coming to avoid back then and by the time I did it he was already on his way out of boxing had departed so people say I think this I told him that I was awful for them to fight Mike Tyson knew I wasn't if I was only 40 maybe we've been fighting me I tell people to today like they always talk about know what's going on with the zone and all these Fighters listen man if I was in today's time and I was worth your own sandwich on Sam if they told me what will pay you 20 mins per fight for five fights we get to pick the pain it is a matter fact I picking y'all call me tell me what they don't fight but we don't fight that and I don't care who it is just tell me when I'm fight and what would I need to be I believe that's who I am so it's like when they talk about I would have fought a know if they would offer me for the me the fight of Mike was just hit you over the phone for that we fought for that's how bad I want to find back then maybe I wanted to fight my he's older than it would I would have thought it but it sounds like no I'm not giving you the opportunity first of all my small guy coming up to the heavyweight Division I don't belong up here anyway I just want to do a bob is Timothy to prove I could do or see if I can do it cause Sugar Ray Robinson try to go with window light heavyweight title and he passed out episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be 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the fan back when you got f***** over in the Olympics and a goddamn did they ruin that that was terrible that was one of the worst Olympic decisions I've ever seen in my life maybe the worst was so badly was in Korea right yep Seoul South Korea in the Korean fighter ya goddamn that was ridiculous it was one of those fights where you like wow you got the gold medal clear and then you see the decision you jaw drops you like what is this it hurt the sport of boxing amateur boxing gear heard it because when you can take a kid 19 years old he defeats his rival clearly and you Robin it really eliminates the Integrity of that support they gave me the Walker cup which is for the best box at the Olympics not wearing a gold medal it was it was bad but it also was in one way and may people really root for you it was a blessing in the skies and I understood that the second day I think I might have cried the whole first day but the second was I didn't cry to after I went to the back and ask ask ask The Interpreter to ask him if you read the story Pete me cuz he said yes that he didn't know it but he wouldn't get nothing but he said no I know I didn't win but it wasn't my fault it was the judges I shook his hand and I left I never had and never another bad feeling towards him he didn't do it you feel me to understand that they are to be blamed but what God did was take their negative and turn into a positive and look where I'm at now career how you got f***** over in the Olympics it was not a it wasn't a question not at all there was no debate there's not a single person that made an argument that he won it was all you and so that when you began your career you have a lot of people rooting for you and that was a beautiful thing that that's the blessing above all for me because to me it was God's way of making me not put my life on idle but Turn Me Up On High I had no clue what he was doing but that's why you just trust in God look where you at now when you fought James Toney and that was a big fight cuz James Toney was at his Prime and you are in your Prime and again you caught him with that leaping left hook man that crazy left hook and drop them when you when you be James Toney like that I think a lot of people had to go with low like he can do this to an elite top of the food chain world champion that's what makes a real Superior athlete not that we could do it to guys who are beneath you where you can do it the gas was supposed to be your equal or that's when you really doing it episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

don't have any problem at all with p*** you think p*** is fine and pouring is recreational a lot of people would push back against that and a lot of people would push back and it would say that it's damaging to young women that it objectifies women in a harmful way and and that it changes the way young people are particularly look at sex and that they mirror and model themselves after these very unrealistic scenarios that depicted in these in these films what do you think about that I didn't I've never said that I have no issue with torn I would just say I'm I'm not anti p*** and that I think that pornography has a time and place I think if you're an adult and in terms of sex more broadly and that's your business but I do thank you for young children and I don't think that's good for their development I don't think that that's the way that people should learn about what is going to be like dog fries not indicative of what real life sex is and I think for people who are concerned that pornography is that it's a are there so many different angles in terms of the criticisms of poor but say one common criticism is that pornography makes men interested in things that are being a potentially degrading to women I do think there is some pornography that is not very nice in the way up to pack swimming for sure but I don't think viewing that is what X-Men misogynistic or disrespectful of their Partners I think that's something that is inherent in them in again as someone who's worked with sex offenders you do anti sociality is more predictive of someone's behavior and their views of women it's not about being exposed to foreign cuz I think most prosocial man if they see something they're going to say that's horrible and I don't want to look at that with human beings I think that p*** is in a lot of ways like many things like like alcohol for instance you can have a drink every now and then or you can drink all day long and ruin your life what is the problem is the problem the alcohol or is that your behavior is it a human being I think it's a human being and human beings obsessive-compulsive behavior and people's addiction two things did the addiction to pornography seems to an issue and so some people's ideas well you should ban pornography but that's sort of the same argument for Banning alcohol but it doesn't really work like you can't really tell people what to do if some people don't have a problem with it but there's some people that enjoy p*** every now and then they watch p*** they'd rather masturbate than have a relationship or whatever maybe they just don't want to deal with people but they're horny I don't know what what for whatever reason but there's nothing wrong with that but there is something wrong for them with with the action of watching p*** all day and disassociating and being but again I don't think it's a pouring problem I think it's a human problem it's the same thing as gambling there's a lot of things that people get really obsessed with in the get addicted to I don't think the problem is the individual think this is always been my take on p*** or really on a lot of you know what we called vices I don't think the problem is the things themselves and I disrespect I support individual choices I love the fact that we have freedom do you could do whatever you want I think you should be able to do anything you should as long as people are getting hurt by it I wonder why we have this perspective on p*** though that we don't have on others it cuz like porange in many ways should be just people having sex people in filming it right people obviously like sex so why is it such a big deal to film it why is it such a big deal to show it to other people it's a very strange aspect of being a human being this is one thing that so many people are obsessed with and literally go out of their way to be successful so they can get more sex like that is like if you ask a man like if men could not have sex how many men would be driving Ferraris and and and taking selfies in front of private jets how about zero write this is why they're doing it there they're signaling that they have wealth they stood trying to make themselves attractive why are they trying to do that for status for what well maybe show up the other man but more likely to show off to whoever they're attracted to whether it's the opposite sex of the same sex they're trying to get sex so why is it that filming sex is so taboo to go back to your point prediction in that I don't doubt that for some people of corn as a problem for sure and like you're saying there's two people watch 4 hours you know when the research I was doing before there's some people I would talk to who literally said watch pornography 8 12 hours a day and it's affecting work super late you know they can't get up in the morning is affecting their relationship that's usually procrastination is procrastination view I think they're addicted to it that if you're obsessed with something don't you think that that's an addiction I mean are we splitting hairs here so people who people some people argue like I said with with pornography that there was a watch it and they start watching more extreme versions of it they're saying that this is you know my tolerance but if you actually sent have a conversation with those people they'll stay actually this is what I've liked all along it's just it took me awhile to accept that so it's not there's no tolerance and you don't see people having withdrawal when they stop Jay from p*** did they think about it all the time they can't wait to get a loan to watch it I think it is an addiction I think it is similar to a drug addiction the same way gambling is similar to a drug addiction there is an internal drop there's something is going on in your mind that you are getting addicted to the excitement the endorphins that you get from gambling I think this many people to get the same excitement in that that same excitement or a similar and endorphins from watching pornography and masturbating rewarding I think for a lot of people it's a coping strategy and if you give them different coping strategies so maybe they're not reliant on pornography to a better or to deal with stress and there is a certain point where do you need more to get you off because I mean or I guess it is really right cuz they gamble bigger and bigger numbers but you know what I'm saying is you don't really develop a tolerance to gamble it right but it is a gambling addiction pornography as a way to feel better it actually cuts down on how much they they're their viewing time and how much they rely on to admit and accept the fact that they do have some sort of us sex or pornography addiction that's not the average person I think there's a lot of people out there that are addicted to porm you never hear from them because they're so much shame attached to it but I think someone who is spending 8 to 12 hours a day that's a lot of time that's the pretty far as severity so yeah. Like I don't think that for everyone who uses born as a coping strategies necessarily going to be that extreme but I just my issue is that this has been portrayed as something that is definitive and that we should treat people who work with people with problems with will say you know that that's not an addiction it's there are other things usually going on in someone's life and those are the things that you need to talk about when you sit down with a therapist is as well but then again people get horny so I can even if you like find all these other coping mechanisms when you get horny you're probably going to watch p*** again so you'll slide right back it's a weird thing as opposed to gambling right like you not going to get horny for gambling right there's not like an equivalent thing where you like you you you build up this thing inside your body needs to take a risk right but whereas with pornography like this particular with men you do sort of buildup this need to release healthy way without it becoming destructive again why do you think it is that we have this this weird take on sex because it is it's a weird thing that it seems to be there's no problem with sex but filming sex and showing sex is where things get strange there's so much stigma around that you know you would think that as a scientist that there would be some sort of removal of that perception but no so I think I write a lot about sex positivity also I think if we were to decrease all the stigma around human sexuality that would help in so many ways you think that as a scientist that there would be some sort of removal of that perception but no so I think I write a lot about sex positivity also I think if we were to decrease I'll just hang around human sexuality that would help in so many ways

what do you think of all this Pentagon UFO we've recovered crafts not of this world talk again can always be true at the same time I don't think we're the only intelligent life out there I mean I'm classified as intelligent but I also don't think we're hiding some alien spacecraft somewhere like we did up with was here comes up here comes the pitch for my show for Black Ops came out instead a program that we ran a program is no longer in existence called a tip which was designed to identify unidentified Aviation threats basically so it's not talk about UFOs in a prototype aircraft what is that second he was in the radar operators aboard and his wingman but I think them and then it it actually actively block their tracking and no no visible means of propulsion I'm not the only one not everything what do you think of that I think I think we don't we haven't resolved that issue we don't know there was no final report they gave some sort of conclusive evidence that said this is what this identify this object was is considered still the state of being and play it perhaps of it. They don't they just no clarification which is interesting in all by itself and it kind of goes back to this while we the only intelligent no but do I think that the government is capable all these years of holding a secret like that now I really don't I think this there is so much like with MK Ultra or anything else I can eventually she hits the fan stuff comes out and I don't think the I'm not one of those and I say this but I just don't think that the government capable of keeping secrets for the long-term certainly not of this magnitude but I think there are certainly things have happened that we can't explain and then one of them would be my forever so aren't hits the Earth from space all time qualifies as a material that does not sound well they said they've recovered crafts not from this world I would want to sit down with the individual saying that and say okay clarified it I'm a 67 and why would they come out with a statement like that I have an answer for that I'd I don't know and that's why I say it the Shocker it definitely goes without saying they would want to prepare people and I think if you wanted to prepare people the best way to prepare people to slowly give them signs that cinch it is about to go down and one of the best ways to say we have found things that are not of this world okay think about that for a little while we'll see you in a few months a few months of accepting that within there's no event right and that retrieve materials had been studied secretly for decades yeah add some things that were ridiculed but turn to be turned out to be absolutely true one of the things that he said was that there was this element this element 115 and that they had figured out a way to stabilize this element in the other planets and that's they used to propel these vehicles with a different kind of propulsion that manipulated gravity and essentially had created some sort of a warp where they they didn't that they weren't subject to the Sea laws of physics right with this propulsion system that we are with what we have which is just igniting Fuel and you know pushing the explosion pushes the the rocket back into into the into space which could explain sort of exciting is exactly exactly the way the gimbal video worked these things for whatever reason they fly one way and then they turn sideways like like if you had a plate to Plate turns up and down and then that's the way it travels and then somehow or another that's that's how it travels insanely fast but it does something to manipulate gravity around it sounds super weird but the guy talked about this in the early 90s and then this is the exact video that the Pentagon refers to the you actually see these objects can explain that don't give off heat signal that move in this exact same way as spectacular rates of speed and that's how the Tick-Tock Kraftwerk to write Harry Reid was you know was allocated some some federal funds to one of his buddies and in Nevada to you know creative Center you know for examining this and for developing space exploration capabilities and you don't really get that answer when you say okay Lou was a tip holding onto materials you know that came from a alien craft know you know what they're saying do you know is it's it's I have a really hard time believing the government to keep this all buttoned up over a. Of time and that's a part of the whole things about all all the UFO stories are so ridiculous to go but your favorite self talk about it like it's not in their best interest to to get back on the carrier and say by the way he spotted us and identified flying object and and I think that the 8 to program the Pentagon was running you know for the minimal cost of that compared to the cost of another asset or you know platform since I think I should have kept going right and they should have normalized to some degree because it's in our national security interest and no have the Russians or have others developed materials right or propulsion everybody's working on a new propulsion systems right everybody that has the ability to resources so rafter that's that's just common I guess that's going to happen and whoever wins that particular race is going to be further up the food chain and everybody else so it's in our national interests to be exploring any legitimate or potentially legitimate siding to understand what that is that doesn't mean you're Chasing UFOs or or a spacecraft from from you should know what the hell that is or what's out there potentially legitimate citing understand what that is that doesn't mean you're Chasing UFOs or or sort of spacecraft from from just means you should know what the hell that is or what's out there so I'm a big fan of that I'm just saying also you have to proceed with caution

did you get a chance to look at that chaos book that I that I told you about Yeah Yeah Yeahs Tom O'Neill who is a friend of my good friend Greg Fitzsimmons Road and insane book they took him 20 years about Manson in the CIA and LSD and what you think about all that well she's very honest about the shortcomings of what he ended up doing in the research that he went through and where he couldn't draw connections I think it's it's well worth the read and you know it's a it's a it's a hell of a just a personal story that it took him this f****** long right to make his way through a variety of reasons but it's been a tremendous success yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean it's really he's sold his sold out almost immediately and the paperbacks are sold out to him and he's I think of all the things that happened with the family and all those people that were alive back then about how this guy kept getting out of jail and they kept arresting him and they kept saying this above my paygrade they would let him out that's the strangest part about the whole story right I mean I know this idea that you know was Manson you know a lab rat for the CIA and you know how it how how far down that rabbit-hole do you want to go well O'Neal was pretty clear about that right it said that's not a solid connection between what used to be a contractor a researcher for that Old Chestnut MKUltra yeah yeah Jolly West yeah what did you think about all that like I'm sure you know about operation midnight Climax and all the stuff that's absolutely true program where they do stop John's they created brothels and do stuff John's with LSD against their knowledge and without their knowledge let them borrow fornicate and have a good old time with these ladies of the evening that way if you want money for produce that movie but it's the they really needed to figure out what the f*** this was and then didn't need to figure out like could this be used against Americans could just be used against the president or get that what is this is this a truth serum like what what are the benefits with the pros and cons are the dangers of the stuff text what was what were the conditions heavily invested in in a variety of experiments mind control brainwashing was this one of the term of of of the culture right and end brainwash was a big issue of it would not a big issue but it was capture people's imagination back then so they late 40s early 50s it was Korean War we had an existential threat each other drills in schools kids hiding under desk tell me what the f*** so with the fear that the Chinese or the Soviets were going to develop mind control abilities was pervasive and it sounded I know you talked about it now and everybody rolls her eyes oh my God but you're absolutely right that you have to understand the context with which then Allen Dulles who was the at the time the director of the CIA by the way the guy who Kennedy fired and wound up being a part of the Warren Commission after Kennedy was murdered which was very strange early in 53 says alright we have to understand what that what the Soviets are doing particular the Soviets but we also had you know again I'm sure the some folks listening know all this but a lot of folks probably don't we had pows returning American returning from Korea mind control that help wraps a Chinese to develop these techniques so initially the idea was Defensive how do we protect ourselves against this new threat within this cold war against these enemies who appear to be devoting great deal of resources against this well so initially started out as a defensive effort MKUltra was the umbrella name for a whole bunch over a hundred and forty projects sub-projects underneath of MK Ultra do substances use of chemicals use of drugs behavioral issues with which human beings creating false memories deleting memory influencing the behavior again of of of individuals there are a variety of projects that fell under this MK Ultra and it was again starting out as defensive issue but then quickly became an offense how do we how do we become a leader in all of this which is tip brightest typical on how things develop it's like cyber-warfare you know initially it's defensive and now you think okay now we got to figure out how to make it work on our behalf and sometimes it's important like when they shut down the Iran nuclear program yeah with a virus is essentially a computer virus was testing on unwitting subjects think such as LSD and in a variety of other substances and those subjects unwitting subjects yeah we've arranged everything from federal prisons to State Mental Hospitals and that's where Manson comes in and end and a variety of other people you know who it's just it's it's a don't settle on just one account and one of the things that people should also do if they want to read about this read the any testimony that came out of the CIA and then there was some testimony that were there were documents written by the inspector-general back and fit in business time. Was about 53 through at least officially acknowledged 64 1964 and then the program was wrapped up supposedly they were still Federal programs military programs others that were still looking into issues related to the use of chemical substances for everything again from interrogation to behavioral adjustment and a lot of these things were funded through cutouts so you could set up again this is so early 50s mid 50s early 60s set up financing Vehicles you'll through say yeah what appeared to be non-threatening Grant programs you know from Research Institute so you use Loop in a academic institutions or researchers and MKUltra had at least acknowledged any way over 80 academic institutions and and others that were either wittingly or unwittingly working on their behalf in various research programs so yeah this this Midnight Cry program basically they'd they'd get out of safe houses a brothel and they would have the hookers slipped LSD or whatever substance to the to the John's and then behind a mirror you'd have a supposed to like a researcher right I'm just workout we're sitting there talkin and what date was in on it and they employed and the get-out-of-jail-free card I'm here for you to show a Boba Fett mask didn't like the San Francisco cat house and you know go to the store is he'd sit there and you know where the Martinez and watch the couple have sex and then he and he would have like trapped the the hooker to say okay after them about their job and a potential assets overseas for operational reasons for operation Fitness rocks off watching couples having sex and you know he is very very strange yet but you're right in that and in token this this went on until 64 MKUltra interesting enough not to not spend too much time on it but Richard Helms was the director at the time in the early 70s and he in a guy named the Gottlieb Sidney Gottlieb who was the head of Technical Services the agency they agreed that the in 73 before Richard Helms left and godly left the agency was to destroy all the records so they purged all the records of MKUltra that day they thought existed this was investigating the church committee back in 75 and then 76 I think it was they found a bunch of financial records you know that that had not been purged because they've been kept in audits of 149 sub-projects of MKUltra so you can match each set project has its own accounting and you got to turn in the receipts for the LSD that you bought her the hook of your paid off or whatever you don't sell here's my receipt can I have my $12 or whatever you paid for a hooker back then and so on the hill the time the CIA director testified at that point and that's why I brought my laptop is because Stansfield Turner's testimony is actually pretty interesting as far as MKUltra goes and he talks about we've attempted to group activities covered by the hundred 49 sub-projects into categories under descriptive headings in Broad outline at least that's presents the contents of these files of the categories Jack's that ran under MKUltra this picture of up of pretty good quick sense of what they were doing at the time researching the effects of Behavioral drugs and alcohol are 17 sub-projects probably not involving human testing this is a testimony from the director of the CIA and Stansfield Turner 14th set projects as well projects subjects research on hypnosis acquisition of chemicals or drugs aspects of magicians art factors assessment training techniques polygraph research funding mechanisms for MKUltra external research activities research on drugs toxins and Biologicals in human tissue activities with subjective documentation at the context of what where we were at that time and where we were was smack-dab and in the height and elevation of the Cold War knowing that our adversaries are existential threats were engaged in this sort of Behavior now George why it was not really a researcher I think it would just sit behind a mirror watching some people don't get off so clearly in and all the unwitting subjects involved agency employees without telling them it's just think about it in terms of the same way we thought about Abraham Lincoln in the context of the times this wasn't such a horrendous thing to do they didn't know any better it was it was it really they didn't know what these substances would do to people and there wasn't a lot of ways to find out you know the harm LSD studies that they did that they believe in in part were responsible for the Unabomber there's a lot of other s*** was responsible for the Unabomber including his childhood but they they did a lot of these studies because they didn't know I mean there's one way to find out me and how do you get responsible human subjects how do you get people to do there's not a lot of ways other than just test people and unfortunately I like using using the most marginalized people out there like sex workers or whatever so that's when you know the Inspector General came out from the agency and you can't you can't clearly not where we are supposed to be but it's tingly funding mechanisms you know that we're used to attend to Dole out grants or to provide a cutout between government and research it was being done you'll get some of those continue to exist for other programs other research and in 67 you know you have the Summer of Love San Francisco and Tom O'Neil rights it's very interesting but yet it does the Haight-Ashbury free medical clinic which in part was running a couple of projects that were supposedly getting funding from the National Institute for mental health which had previously been a funding mechanism also for MKUltra a few years in the past and Rodger Smith was a guy who was forgetting his PhD in criminology he was working at the free medical clinic and he was also Manson's parole officer and to your point Manson was like it was like a brook trout over the rainbow trout that he is in some catch-and-release dream right he was constantly arrested during a 67 68. Remember is the killings happened in summer of August of 69 and kept getting released and in prison right he can't even 6078 early in that year he been released from prison I thought he was on probation any violation certainly something he was getting arrested for should have sent him back to prison but he wasn't so bad to me as one of most interesting parts of the book is this this is this revolving door that Manson was in and eventually we all know what happened to him but yeah working at the Haight-Ashbury free medical clinic that's where Manson would go along with some of his father person and you know they were you know part of a study and you know they were I'm sure you know getting their LSD from there but also this guy Jolly West who was involved in MK Ultra also ended up having an office with the Haight-Ashbury free medical clinic so came out been open for 50 years or 80 yeah but I mean you know again it's it's I like to I like the book because he does seem to be trying to let the the facts of all his research lead the way rather than trying to prove a point that he comes up with the beginning of his book also expose the prosecutor bugliosi and all the other issues that were going on with him that led to him wanting to follow the narrative that they had laid out that Manson was trying to incite a race war and ignore all the other indicators that there was some deeper connections with Manson was he a former for the Puro or for local law enforcement or some other outfit you know that's hard to tell but it's compelling in light of the fact that he kept getting released don't seem to employ the same techniques that apparently the CIA employed when they done experiments on prisoners including the fact that he would you know but forced him into weird sexual situations and pretend to take LSD himself but not really participate and then you know influence them and he seemed to be doing things to them in terms of like trying to alter their behavior and getting them to do things are outside the norm including murder did he see ya have a sense from his time there the clinic or dealing with what's the name Rodger Smith is parole officer will again was also with no criminology doctor doctoral candidate I guess and so was a rocket scientist what is life in federal penitentiaries and also the context of the time what else would you have going on you had the sort of this again this awareness of the impact of LSD on the on the counterculture right so you had federal agencies like the bureau in it for example worrying about oh my God what's the you know where do they tip he's going to do next you know how they can and you know they were worried obviously about the Black Panthers but it was also more than that against War movement is just a general Counter Culture and their impact of drugs on it and so it's a it's a fast Butcher and the impact of drugs on it and so it's a it's a fast I think it's worth the read because again he spent so much time trying to make his way through and get to work

things can happen I agree with you went when you said earlier that you can't believe the polls right so I don't believe the polls I think people are tired of the four exhausted from just sort of the the general trauma of having somebody like Trump in the office so I think there's a potential for a lot of people who may like the policies or some of the policies and prefer them to a hard left agenda or a left agenda I think there's a chance for them to say about fuk it I just I'm too tired and I I don't want that and maybe they'll look at at Vidant thinking it's a return to some normalcy debate Alpha Brain right now cuz you'll probably in a lab somewhere they got of that from on it goes right to the f****** Ivy by September 29th not going to be such a contested election no matter what and I'm really worried about the chaos that could ensue after it's over we'll think about that and that's it that's it I mean look I'm a big fan of going to the voting booth you know I should getting out driving or walking going on the f****** love her so let the problems with the Post Office and mail delivery in the idea that we can have mail in ballots as opposed to absentee ballots before that you know what 9 out of 10 people that's not statistically accurate but I'm sure a lot of people would have said to f****** Postal System they can't deliver the mail and but now because hydroxychloroquine to the mail I haven't arrived but you don't know the results for five or six or seven days because they're still counting balance thing is. Of time could be really crazy right now if you don't know and you can't tell me that and it's not you know I'm just I'm just saying the realities are you got to be pragmatic you want to go with all your mail balance or whatever hey just be aware of the fact that you can have a lot of problems while disqualified balance because of a variety of reasons why lost balance a lot of people and so what if if if what you want to do is so chaos and and descent and and further this divide then yes pretty good way to do it you can figure out a f****** get everybody the balance right attitude polling booths and make that happened just f****** do it right then if you want to have ballot for voting booths were people wear masks and you know and hazmat suits and fine but figure out a way to get people to the voting booth because it's not I don't think I don't think that the mail-in thing is is could be wrought with fraud like the White House in like Trump is going on I could be a lot of fraud pragmatic says could have a lot of logistical problems with you know why they can't vote online why can you Bank online but you can't vote online house that people didn't have to physically go to a place you many more people would vote probably insane cuz what is the number now like what percentage of people now vote is like 40% I bet we get up pretty high if you could register on your phone and vote on your phone my God why can't you do that well is there security issues related to that as we all know the security of the of the system that would be and it would certainly make life easier for a lot of people I just don't ask with and again my issue with the mail isn't isn't the fraud issue so much as just a logistics of it right and that and that that that delay in and also the potential to have a lot of balance just being disqualified or being put in question the same thing would online I think if Congress would do its job they would just say you know what the elections are coming going to be right on time and you're going to go to your voting polling places and we're going to put in place special times for elderly citizens to vote if they want to have a super safe environment they can only vote like this like it do it Costco Costco in our area had like 7 to 9 a.m. was only for people over 65 if I'm pretty sure we could do that how hard is it to make it happen but but again it's give it plenty of time set up an up booths and if you want to do it over a two-day. Fine but at least you're at least that are are are are thoroughly as well so you really good socially distance everybody you really could absolutely ensure that everybody safe and is everybody safe we have five business days

scares the s*** out of me and I was watching a video to the day of the week or Muslims and what what they're doing and rounding these people up and force them on trains so it gets terrifying like what are they doing and they have no accountability they don't they don't have to know not be as stable as he's been thinking but he spent years now strengthening and and building up the Intel apparatus within China you know for his own purposes and further moving away from this idea that somehow China was going to have a rule of law oh my God we got we stand United with the Hong Kong protesters and then we got you do up around ass is because we're all rightly so worried about the pandemic and you know we have an election coming in November and you know why we're all looking that way you know she saw an opportunity just f*** them over right and just but it doesn't mean anything's essentially use the pandemic to decide to impose the same sort of restrictive laws they have in the rest of China with Hong Kong Hong Kong used to be under British law and then was it 97 and transferred over to China 2047 was kind of that was the the playing field they had and all clone up until 2047 what kind of goofy ass deal negotiate where they gave it up in 97 so stupid well yeah I mean they threw late today how they didn't they really didn't have an option so they felt that they were they were negotiating as best they could and there was a sense I think at the time that look we either do this and guarantee some runway for the people in Hong Kong with some pseudo democracy democracy or legitimate Financial Capital right but I think what's going to happen now given what they've just recently done is you know they're going to turn Hong Kong it best into a a pass-through for hard currency basically and you know you're going to see a lot of people moving out not just you know not just expats and and and financial institutions you can see a lot of the more successful and educated Hong Kong citizen to a running businesses there who have been running business is there same f****** it's not worth it and so did I think the Chinese I think it's over in a way but it's an indication of of she's mindset and he doesn't he doesn't really care and it's like they're buildup of military capabilities in the South Pacific there working and cyber activity they're continuing hoovering up intellectual it is not going to stop you know I mean if it's better that we do make an effort it's better that we do you know put sanctions on them for variety of reasons including the Wailers but will a change overall will it change their their behavior probably not so weird so weird to watch it happen just it's something that people weren't really terrified of 10 years ago they weren't worried about China taking over the world now it seems like it's a real possibility they weren't they weren't worried about they were looking at trying to like you know it it's a great Marketplace you know this is where I need to be now and you could argue the tech company still do that right at the tech companies they don't look at China as a threat she's got his eyes set on being at the top of the food chain so you know we can either deal with it or we can pretend it doesn't exist be honest with people people who subscribe to the Trump as Putin's puppet will scoff at this idea but let the Russians I think would prefer to see by and when is well right I mean then get back to business as usual I'll probably ease up on the sanction you know that the left too hard left anyway it's been very successful over the years at this disruption narrative and and find it work for them and I only spent three years in this in this in this particular narrative I think I think overall the Chinese or the Russians they would prefer to see someone like biting come in I think they feel like it would be a more collegial approach from the White House a less confrontational and I think it's just we're rat look I mean Bill Gates yeah he said himself it did that Biden's never been on the right side of of a foreign policy decision so that's one area where I can going back to what we talked about earlier is you know if he's going to choose a vice president I'd rather be to somebody who's got as much National Security and foreign policy experience as possible cuz I think that's one area where he's going to be lacking even though he says all my life anyway the policies of Trumps put in place for China or actually beneficial to United States it's a good step that's not a bad thing made them a little unsure about you know what they're doing they've had to think about things a little bit more they have had to the other sanctions I wish that we would sanction them hard for the uyghurs I would sanction them very hard for what they've done I'd like to see that happen I think what we're saying now that was obviously a pandemic is deflected a lot of attention and also let you know what the clothes you'll get through any presidential election the less shift gets done and I just so I don't know that anything meaningful going to happen or the course of the next handful of months and who knows what's going to happen in November say now that was obviously the pandemic is deflected a lot of attention and also let you know what the clothes you'll get through any presidential election the less shift gets done and I just so I don't know that anything meaningful going to happen or the course of the next handful of months and who knows what the f*** is going to happen in November

remember being on the show and then I remember leaving don't use Social account Bill Cosby a douchebag the glue together has anybody but it was it was a rare moment we're like in perfect name to tough crowd is a perfect name for has there ever been a talk about bringing that back of God yeah I'm like we're this world and then I was just like I don't know then I'm going to enter a mean getting everybody together and you know people's careers would full left and right if we did it oh yeah I mean anybody on that would they be able to really even speak honestly today to have a career that's pretty locked in already or you got to be on the on the come-up where you got nothing to lose it's a guy run a television show that are f***** yeah like the guys who get a TV show or you're really worried about losing it right those guys can't they can't do a show like that but back then you could go back then we did but it is Colin Quinn tough crowd look at that that was one of the Great Moments that show was dead two days ago Play episode did you guys wind up doing 200 I think I have no can we get you to do it as a podcast I don't know guys like established would do it and it would be wild you could still do it again to be done as a podcast because do cuz like you have a guy like Joey Diaz on he doesn't give a f*** and they will talk freely oh my God they would love it it might be I don't know I mean over the years obviously people aboard up to knossos like now cuz he could never do you want to name be free today no but I got a better one the original name whichever he told me off of which is the expression really tough room I don't know maybe how many times in New York would do it a lot yes easy yeah Norton would do it for sure hundred percent Lolly wouldn't be invited on but you're right you put up the one name shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

did you did you see Cosby at all before he want to go to jail did you ever see him live now I never saw him live I mean I saw him alive once when I worked at Great Waves actually working as a security guard and he was there live but I didn't get to that wasn't comic back then I was 19 I didn't get to see the whole show I really paid attention to it but he never worked out he and he talked about he said I I know what's funny I know how to how to do funny like I don't need to work out my material so you would just kind of right and then he would go up and do these and from all accounts like Chris Rock said it and burset it they went to see him instead of a f****** brilliant brilliant yeah and he didn't work out like I would like to see what that was like I would like to see it to you and Jerry Seinfeld and how much of it you love it cuz it's great what's your temp before he got arrested everybody hero-worship to buy didn't you didn't I didn't like to I don't like his act that much I'm a big benefit. very pretty and I walked in with her and she had a certain look that I can exotic looking to and address and Cosby sweatpants smoking a cigar but you know and he's talked to me for 20 minutes he looked at me for about eight seconds of the 20 he was literally look be made it a joke but it was dead what are you looking at her while he's talking to me the whole time we're all like laughing like he's in on the joke but it was so like she thought it was so weird but the same Nike Tom Papa was there with his wife Cynthia and is one of those nights fascinating in retrospect it was a me to benefit in retrospect remember I called Bill Cosby a douchebag on your show what else on tough crowd cuz he was ahead of the time he was being interviewed by Wanda Sykes and Wanda was interviewing him he starts chastising her for the way she's taught I didn't write remind me to call Bill Cosby a douchebag me and this is like yes I mean when was tough crowd what year am I talking about especially want everybody loves Wanda the crowd and she's just working it wasn't nothing she did was offencive her talking and I remember being on the show and then I remember leaving go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

what was it like in the lockdown for you do you still live in New York if I live in New York so weird I was telling everybody it's very it's not like people like I was like New York in the 70s and Subway there's only a few people on and it still smell it smells as bad they've been cleaning it every day and still stinks it doesn't even smell better that's how ingrained it is and you know the the pigeons are homeless and he took down all the statues so there's no place to live she was CD and weird and it was always like that this is a drastic change from 6 months ago you can't say it's like the 70s because it's not it's like something's deteriorated there's a collapse right then there's all this weirdness that comes along with that while the 70s was kind of a collapsed all the stores at night would be locked up but they will open during the day now which is 20 walking that deserted streets is nobody out in tournaments have you always lived in New York so so it was sketchy in the 70s like in part one of the joke's on my own and wasn't a joke if you walk down your block cuz there's no cell phone be home if you would you stayed out if they're not like Times Square people to go to Broadway shows by 11 it was deserted except for criminals because people leave work early so that we can go out for a drink with dinner they would get in a car and get out immediately and giuliani's want to clean all that s*** up said I'm going to transform this any did he turned it around really did you really did maybe a little too far I get a certain may have been a little too became like a mall Applebee's something about crime and crime ridden areas like people always glamorize it after the fact what if you're living there while it's going down to f****** terrible really is important to your mayores but you didn't really care for the mayor of La was half the people didn't even know that's right and now they're like who is this m*********** this keeping everything closed yeah yeah in the same thing with New York something where is it a crisis will you realize like this is not a leader and everybody hated Bloomberg running for a third term for V now Darrell Hammond had to bail on some shows supposed to do sit at Lisbon vs me to do a favor do a guest shot of the show which I go up really didn't go that well but it was and I did when he was asked me what kind of show but it was for Bloomberg did deshone for the Olympic Committee or whatever the committee was anyways Olympics and 30 people and is uncomfortable room and then after his Bloomberg shook my hand and he was already a billionaire show you one day that I always repay my debts I owe you one so I was kind of hoping to be president and then I could call in my chit cuz I never did the whole time was mayor I just have my oral I believe in the oreilly OR history cuz I've been trying to call you to make those again in DC for being there you're more politically minded than I am why do you not know that kind of stuff you're not going to get there with the social justice Warrior asked you that the Blasio has it's just going to lead to more complete deteriorate I said it yeah but it may it may be too late you never know too late you never know I mean nobody likes to think in New York that way but it's like a lot of people so many people move to that I was shocked moved to the suburbs think about that all that your Jerry Seinfeld will Feud about New York is Dad f*** you know what yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean look at me the side of it and then right I mean like I don't want to be dead but at the same time when I go in deep trouble and then he's one of those guys you know cuz you need to be gritty New York City needs to be great right yeah that's why I never really had the f*** beat out of them regretted laughing cuz you holding your broken rib and a six weeks in a row we like this is ever going to get better yeah it's that gritty s*** is like boy yeah I see what you're saying I kind of get I know I know ya some places are gritty their fun yet it's funny like I said 80 81 and literally they had like thieves dens above the pornos theaters they had Steve's Dent so like that you go through the turnstile I went in 112 this kid he was taking it if I forget we were trying to do something shady and he went we went up and it was like 50 like thieves like like like Oliver only New York like a gang of people with illegal guns we crazy Jeezy Gangsta running down if anybody was there just swarm somebody take their stuff leave them on the ground and just keep going the thing about it is though the disrespect of the police right now right it leads it to a very difficult situation of trying to bring it back it's like that didn't that wasn't a case in the eighties and nineties who respected the police and when they went Giuliani brought it back there wasn't this overall Nationwide resentment of the police force we're having now which is pretty unprecedented well I mean they're sort of was in New York actually at that time there's a couple of incidents where you know but yes not like this by putting oil in a lightning rod sort of mean like the police to me a proxy war mean everybody knows cops but you're no one denies at bottom even cops know that about themselves but that being said it's easy for everybody to just go ok like as a proxy war II all the bottled up racial resentment in the country and it's like the people that have to actually going to hail Us in his would have to happen they're going to be the big going to be the Fall Guy for that go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

what's interesting Segway on that too because that's like in parts of the nonprofit stuff I do on this side is is solely based on that the individualized treatment for veterans specifically in law enforcement because you see a lot with the military got2b a it like you're saying you show up I don't feel good and sew blanket treatment right here some antidepressants yours all that been let its units a Band-Aid for a bullet hole and if you're not actually figuring out what the causes and you're treating symptoms than the 3rd and 4th order effects of those treatments are going to make that ended worst you know some of the issues I like I think I have PTSD if that's a guy Center pts they go through and they find out they have TBI and 40% memory function short-term memory function and so now you go to cognitive therapy and you get the like guys or gals working through it that way but the only way to figure that out is through brain scans and blood work and actually focusing on the individual rather than being lazy and say hey here's some antidepressants when the whole time they issue with something completely different enough money to send you through all these different scans and all these different doctors and Specialists and try to fine-tune what's wrong with you I think that that's one of the things that we talked about a lot is the our politicians will say our leadership they they love to go to war they loved it like you know hey how many times can send more guys to war how many countries in on and I'm a participant in that endeavor by the way right up invaded rack I've spent a lot of my adult life it in in war specifically in both Iraq and Afghanistan the thing I've noticed in my adult life is that politicians love it they love to send you know 18 to 26 year old men and women they love to send them or what they hate is paying the f****** bill that's what they hate they hate paying for the after-effects they hate standing by their word in the sense of hey we're going to take care of you your your health problems your education we're going to start really fixing the VA system so there's long-term care what most veterans that I know what they have to do is they have to continue to Lobby the government over and over and over for them to prove that what's happened to their body is connected to their service but the issue that I continue to see is that this is a lack of wanting to lack of experience for a politicians they don't quite understand what war is long-term effects on individual soldiers after Decades of service and I think now hundreds of my friends everyone everyone of us has some type of long-term effect from their service every one of us in the sense of Deep Sleep issues you have you no got issues you have inflammatory no inflammation are you missing a limb and really it's it's disgusting the amount of emphasis there is ongoing and then the lack of emphasis on care it really hit it saddens me as a society when we have to rely on nonprofits to pay for the care of veterans because that the military or the dod in the tax the taxpayers Angelique and I think if they understood this if they knew they weren't paying for the long-term care of our service members to the degree that they needed they would abs we have no issues stepping up and saying hey we have to do something about this and it's it it's really when we look at the entire system and how it's it's put together there's no way that a person this is a good story for my friend Clint he's missing both his legs recently from last year during covid-19 his leg was blown off and he needed a new leg but he couldn't get in to get a new leg so he was confined to his wheelchair for almost six months during this process and he couldn't get an appointment there's no reason why that should happen literally zero reason we can't have the largest transfer of wealth from attacked parents the military-industrial complex in modern history without zero ethical argument as far as our entire political system not continue to care for a veterans there's just no way that we can do that as a society because I think ultimately that defines us and who we are collectively and it's not a good grade was a long history of the United States doing that remember when people were coming back from the first Gulf War and then we're having all these issues with radiation because they use that what what is depleted uranium rounds weird radiation sickness issues of people are having their calling a Gulf War syndrome but they did their very best to not take care of these people will you look like from the agent orange in Vietnam not a long-term effects of that and and all the studies and research that's coming out right now with a burn Pit and the carcinogens and how much cancer but they're like I can't really draw the conclusion that it came from burning s*** for 6 months you know and then to Evans Point as well it's it's it's tragic to be honest that there's tens of thousands of stop it they're having to do the leg work without government grants or funding the money is coming from people that are being participating philanthropy saying I want to do something good for these guys and gals that have real issues like to Clint's that he's missing his legs and you're going to make him happy in a wheelchair for months because of that for me that just absolutely EOD Tech had both of her arms blown off when she try to catch them ordinance that they were going to dispose of and essentially she has a full-time caregiver and she went to go see her family for I believe it was a month and during that time she didn't have the caregiver because she's with her husband family and they're taking care of her well the VA determined after that stint that she doesn't need a full-time caregiver because she obviously was fine that munchie was away and in this is a young lady who person like just knobs there there's you know she called herself wondering elves bless her heart she's freaking hilarious but she can't do things that come so easily to us like grab things use the toilet like and she has a really funny Twitter about you don't wipe her ass I believe you said but the fact that that's happening and someone in the VA with like that f****** stupid here you go full-time caregiver like that I mean they're just trying to find a way to cut Money numbers on a piece paper and it's I don't think people want to be reminded right episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're out go download Spotify shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they 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going to be fat if you don't you're going to get the deed to get a little star fuk with you and that's one of the reasons why I got really in Italo and really started eating a lot of bacon and things like that he think there's such like a national misconception that fats bad for your body cuz I hear that from a lot of people like I don't want to eat it it's fat while they were told that for the longest time they were real evidence that sugar and in these companies that made sugar paid scientist to f*** with data to put heart disease and all these problems of people having with clogged arteries to push that off on saturated fat right and to take that away from from sugar right and it's sugar sugar is terrible for you sugar is so unnatural very natural human beings have been eating since the beginning of time I think it's called linoleic acid is f****** terrible for you is real evidence and it makes you hungry that like you're eating it there's no nutrients and it's your body gets hungrier look throughout human history there's never been a time until recently where people got oils directly from plants and large quantities let you know you got oil from Plants it was like oil from avocados like natural or you got your oil from beef fat or chicken things that that's natural for human being right these saturated fats that are natural your body knows what to do with them you guys know what the f*** to do with canola oil and processed food is almost entirely like if you if you let it sit first of all too human it's a new human creation and it's it's it should never be your first choice your first choice would be natural foods in her first choice to be apple stake but that's normal that's easy to do with that but you know you get into seed oil it's real evidence that that is a giant part of what's wrong with the health of Americans today is he's ultra-processed vegetable oils for you and general for us to look at the traditional food pyramid and say well that's bulshit ultimately you know if grains and unprocessed foods that at the Cornerstone of your entire diet going to have some issues you can kind of look around you don't even have to be a rocket surgeon to figure that out right it's like holyshit obesity is an epidemic in the United States were eating a ton of processed food and all the guys that I know that are healthy are eating Whole Foods for the most part and it's not because you have more discipline or because you have more access or well I know a ton of guys that are not very wealthy they eat Whole Foods and they're feeding and certain windows and they're still in the military still doing f****** we difficult missions and they're really healthy so when I look around and say we'll be okay if you stick to Whole Foods and you limit your amount of caloric intake we're not dealing in a high you know High intellect thought process here it should be pretty easy but I think what people want is they want their easy button right there like I'm going to burn off all this b******* that you poured in there but there's even foods that people think are healthy that are not really good for you like princess white rice is better than brown rice yes like people they have white rice or brown rice a long time have been getting rid of that outside that husk Japanese got it right with food I'm telling you so did you see white rice seaweed today all day like animals and I've been getting into this animals that eat these ultra-processed Foods then you eat them like animals that eat like alter process corn than you at animal like you're getting some of the b******* from the corn and some of the b******* neck all these seed oil acids you getting these things in your body to but that don't make sense to me what they're eating and then you're eating them for sure it's really not a direct your not stretching and connecting a lot of complex. They're in the sense of when people are trying to sell me on the idea why I know it's great don't worry about it no man like those chickens are eating our snack they're packed in me a right on top of each other shiting on each other everywhere like I'd rather have a free free range egg element comes from maybe corporate impact in marketing where they'll just Americans will consume it without thinking and go well it's good because Jack-in-the-Box told me that it's organic one thing in this country where there is a massive lack of understanding in terms of like the way people perceive what's good and what's bad it's nutrition because there's so few doctors that really know what the f*** their talk there's doctors out there that will tell you don't need supplements you don't need supplement you need a healthy balanced diet you looking at my gut they look bloated it was an episode of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking go down go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

neither bad decisions is it is is is is we look back in history and we look at Iraq and particularly look at you know that the tens of thousands of service members that served in Iraq to include myself I don't know if they want to be reminded of that that section of our history on a regular basis either he's so when we have amputees we have health issues with the burn pits that really I think is is our cause or that we need to talk about is our Norwich is you know I think Jon Stewart just recently brought it up her active in the hunter 7 Foundation which is a lot of research in this but there's zero reason why the government is not funding to the tune of millions of dollars of research to figure out what's happening to the servicemembers with their directly related in a long and health issues from Burn pits there's no reason because the only reason is because if they acknowledge that its a prob going to have to pay for explain burn pits of people it's a it was essentially a big pet where you would put all of your garbage everything everything so that's batteries that's all the plastics it's anything and everything that is Ricky gladder it's fecal matter its tires at anything that is directly associated with your living condition in a war that you need to to get rid of inured shove it what you a pic and then it would burn 24 hours a day 365 days a year and yes I was at four and a half years is how much time I have in the ground Iraq and everyone of my firebases there was a burn pit and not only that you're going to have young privates out there with Steph rolling it over again and smoke with probably some you know knitted fake mask up there they got in there the ones in there actually rotating the trash to burn it through completely so they're completely subjected to that environment from a very long time whose idea was that really smart and really really smart you know officers and contractors the same guy decided that you know the invasion was going to be a really good idea of Iraq are the same people making those types of decisions in the way that you know obviously look at this now and we went back on it because that's dumb as f*** there was somebody in a series of people at that point I'm in 2003 to 2009 and Iraq that were saying this is a good idea and that type of mentality I think is the same type of mentality today that says this is a good idea for not for us not to fund the research to figure out what the f*** is going on so we can do something about it and when we talked about it rated R they're only so big but I think if people knew what was happening with our generation of veterans because you know I'm 43 you're 33 34 34 you got all these guys that are coming up with strange cancers weird but one of Jocko's friends and our friends who just died of cancer is a Medal of Honor recipient had a strange hard work and cancer or some kind of cancer in his back and he died six months down the road and what's happening and when we talked about the other foundations and people that are diving into some of this research it's incredibly underfunded they're starting to have this direct connection between the burn pits themselves the chemicals that ultimately were exposed to or were exposed to and a lot of cancers are guys are coming come in when I say that they're developing I guess obviously yeah in the same camp you would have to put I would I would take a towel and I would wet it and then I would put it down underneath my my my my door going into this little container worshipping Tanner would put another one of the top just so I could just so I could sweep the rest of the evening because the smoke was so bad from the burn pits is it would move in you couldn't sleep because you couldn't sleep without coughing and it was going is every day depending on your on your Firebase those everyday so it wasn't the fact that a man I got all my fingers and toes right now I survived seven years or more of it I feel like a counter argument that would be like well whatever idiots you signed up for it but if I died preschool and then they get out and we're just like have fun especially guys and gals like we're talk to one unit I have friends that have done 16-17-18 deployments and it's an injustice because they're willing to sacrifice their life lemon body and eyesight for you know I guess the politicians assembly War but then it's it's it's a moral obligation as our society that we have to look out for them to come back and it's not happening f****** insane for the most part most people don't was as Jamie and Afghanistan more than 400 tons of waste was there supposed using burn pits daily Jesus Christ and then the question is like what else do you do like San Francisco fog one sold San Francisco fog and black or yellow and orange mostly black everyone inhaled and ingested it it was absorbed by the skin f*** which is which is interesting because you know I think a lot of people that have deployed if you said hey we got to get this trash burn you know we got to do it like what we sign up for we got it but then you got to give them the research and the medical conditions that understand this going for in the after-the-fact actually hopefully not die like this one can't but there's no way you would say hey let's let these guys breathe in this s*** and then take care of them nice and not burn that s*** cuz she's going to figure out another way to get rid of it out in the satellite overviews is that methane like meth like they're trying to find like the largest sources of methane with contribute in the greenhouse gases and it's f****** landfills they poured into the ground is covered up with dirt and just leaking methane to the atmosphere f****** terrible like I don't know what the solution is but the solution is definitely not burn it right where the soldiers are sleeping and I think that now that as we continue to to evolve hope we as a society we look at the way that we deploys servicemembers overseas we'd at least identify this is a problem but they're the big thing that I see is we have to continue to to look at the problem and fund the research and get the direct connection between these types of activities meaning burn pits we're looking at burn pit I'm saying that's burn pit but it's also know Dino Tim obviously he's been on that podcast sf5 guy but when we look at the long-term effects of the Special Operations Community because from that subculture but sleep deprivation anti-inflammatories anti-malarials burn pits multiple 10 pts this is a holistic health issue for the most of these guys returning if they don't have direct or visible combat wounds they have some type of residual they've been affected by the war in a long-term residual way and I think what happens is is the VA continues to evolve at least pass these wars we have to look at it as a collective and say how do we make turn everybody's attention within the VA system to directly take care of these guys in a very positive impact ways we don't have people like married egg that you get denied a full-time service give her a caregiver because the way it is right now look at it the way it's it how do we critically think and solve the problem and put in process in a plan to go here's the resources you need so we can fix the issues that are right in front of her face so figure out where you going to/these benefits I could and then you have to look at these people that you're talking to either on the phone or through email what time is the number on a ledger and then you have incredible giving nation that back feels that need through new nonprofit organizations yeah I guess my only intent in that conversation is I think the government needs to do a much better job of weeding the conversation this then being towed around by the entire conversation they need to get out in front of it have to take responsibility for it and I think that's a big one which is taking responsibility you know or just in general and then taking responsibility for the after affects the individual soldiers Sailors Marines post-war that just seems to me the thing to do and I think most people if they realize these things were happening I think last time I try to schedule a VA appointment is going to take me two hundred plus days to get in to see a physician you know about a shoulder injury your days to get on the list and I'm going to be special I'm not I'm not you know missing anything right but there are a lot of people there been directly affected by this that need care and now we have the ability I think and based on the the current Administration to go see a primary care provider outside of the VA which I think was a huge stop but there's still a lot to do right and there's you know for us having this company and what we're doing with it you know big it's a big part of the mission of how we run the company what we're doing with the company in episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify that's 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who is this pros and cons there but my point was that there is something to the ego in that regard where I think you almost had to have it to be Michael Jordan reference cuz it who had a tremendous ego but also one of the greatest if not the greatest basketball player of all time but obsessed video after he retired and so Michael Joy came back and played him one-on-one and Justice was talking s*** to hold on who is that Jamie did you play me that he's going back over the results are substantial right and that's it in so the question that I wonder and this is really question because I don't get to study high performance athletes with narcissism work you don't get to do it I mean you can get imagine they'll get data from presidents and stuff that you gave him his story and spit at you just don't really have the data and I wonder it you know like obviously from The Hobbit ale and stuff and that's your braggadocio before fights that if in those Combat Sports ego is super important to develop me theoretically makes sense it's not about that emits you just have to win to a point outside what I was saying before is that the people that get destroyed because enormous egos when they get exposed it takes incredible care to build yourself back up and some never do some get psychologically defeated and then never the same again cuz they're the pain of loss in the pain of being exposed as being inferior to your opponents just too much but I wonder it's at such a rare example of when it would be beneficial to be narcissistic or beneficial to have an ego tremendous individual competitiveness because if you're in a team so imagine all the time so there goes in front of cameras Missy I want it for the team in the next time the front line just let the defense through in the quarterbacks dad because next time you went take my team and God and then the team supports it because in a team sport you can't be really successful without a team maybe but maybe basketball little bit but like football and stuff so it keeps that ego in check but with boxing or fight it's just you it is but it also is a team as well because you need a coach you need someone to train you correctly in and Tyson's case when is coach died and Custom Auto died and then he his relationship with his coaches afterwards deteriorated to the point where you real having like a bucket carriers in in the ring with his career faded so you need a black office you respect that okay okay okay thank you like you need someone who sees your failures and your mistakes and end checks you on them and you need to respect that person so it's Michael Jordan have that person who will think Michael Jordan was so hard on himself and so like so obsessed with winning this is why I wanted to bring him up because I think there's psychological issues that these extreme winners have that you don't get to where they are without them it's like the with the illness becomes beneficial right if you're not sadistic you don't make a good serial killer right or good internet troll you ever become a guy like Michael Jordan was just so dominant or he is an example of somebody who is very egotistical I mean that's that I don't know where I might but that's the what people say it's very competitive you know and it's obviously work for him and you sit with all the other option might be that well if you're kind of a dick in your really really good people let you get away with it episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

is there any evolutionary benefit to narcissism where does that come from cuz it doesn't exist in the animal kingdom yes so if you think about it from an evolutionary perspective which some people have narcissism seems to be really good for short-term mating success like if I go to a bar in downtown Austin and narcissism the higher scores are going to get them numbers over time that's usually happens and narcissism usually good for short-term Aiden and it's good for status-seeking power seeking so it's probably beneficial in those contacts and it's in this is where it gets a little weird because it's stable environments like and research and hunter-gatherer societies and stable environments of somebody's you know cheating on other people's wives or stealing stuff or steals extra food people don't like that they'll just kill him until dusk of a honey attacks urine if you're kind of a dick in the in the hunter-gatherer Society will take you out and you'll just won't come back cuz they just don't want you but so narcissism gets gets weeded out in those places but when things get unstable and things are you know on certain people are narcissistic and get a lot of resources and do really well so sometimes they do well to keep sit around and obviously in big societies you can become powerful enough to hire henchmen and hire a PR agent how to build your own status and into a lot more than you can in the hunter-gatherer group where everyone knows you what is your definition of narsil it gets a little more complicated when we're talking like this I'm talking about grandiose narcissism is is narcissistic personality and this is a trait and meaning that people go from high-level to low-level it's not a clinical disorder and in this trait when it's grandiose Suisse grandiose narcissism it's this combination of sense of entitlement in the sense of superiority but also you get extraversion and drive and ambition called agentic extraversion so somebody who is driven and extroverted but also a little bit substandard in an antagonistic and entitled that combination of traits kind of a prima donna or overconfident or cocky or whatever you want to call. There's another form of narcissism which we don't talk about as much in the normal world do the smartest people in the room but no one really looks out I'm no one pays attention to him so they get insecure to get depressed or self-esteem drops they think you know why am I getting the attention I deserve some kind of Legend clinically because they're depressed and it goes clannish and help me out I'm anxious so those are the two normal forms of narcissus in their traits and then there's this clinical form or psychiatric formcard narcissistic personality disorder NPD and that personality form of Personality Disorder form of narcissism is an extreme form of narcissism we have a high level of it you know like Trump or you know a lot of celebrities are academics but you also to make it a clinical this or do you have to have that in we're talking about stress be clinically significant impairment and that's usually the narcissism is so bad your your marriage and relationships are falling apart your work wife could be falling apart so sometimes you find narcissistic really successful people in offices who are narcissists but they they kind of destroy the office culture they're just bad workers and so you can destroy that you can make really poor decisions because your ego so big you just you know over something and and it just doesn't work out for you so you start dysregulated in your your financial decision so you can make those kind of mistakes the big ones usually interpersonal but when you have that kind of impairment it can be a disorder and then you get treated for it the vulnerable personality disorders fastnet that's a fascinating one cuz you see a lot of them on social media in particular right you see people that feel like they should be getting more attention than they are and don't understand and feel upset by that or short-changed he's social media is such a strange because because it gives everybody the chance to have a camera and have the audience of a billion people so I can go on there and get a billion audience but I have to earn that and see if lots of people to go look I can never billion people in my audience but I don't have those people why aren't they there who's screwing me over and not give you my for my followers you know why the other day talking about being shadowbanned and he had a thousand friends and I'm like are you sure yeah are you sure you're shadowbanned are you sure people are just not interested in what you're saying but that's the weirdest thing that ever happened or why they're not getting the attention they deserve I would be the next Joe Rogan if it weren't for those dastardly Shadow banners holding me back I know that they can't silence me they can't yeah it did if I got out there I would change the world but these guys are holding me back schizophrenia and narcissism because many people who are schizophrenic have these grandiose ideas of who they are or who they should be or where they they fit in that are ridiculously distorted perceptions of reality I'm pretty awesome not really mad you just not care okay that I like maybe go back to the gym you know but it's usually not it's not it's not crazy I was working in a in a hospital with a woman who who was a patient who said that she worked she was the Tooth Fairy and she worked for Reagan is the Tooth Fairy that will that's a grandiose delusion you know wasn't president but he was still helping her behind the scenes that's a grandiose illusion but you wouldn't call that narcissistic because she wasn't really her personality was really narcissistic she's more schizophrenic in a presentation kind of flat affect a little bit strange odd or unusual and adonia's would lack of feeling and stuff but those weird Illusions so you can have those grandiose delusions but it's not quite the same as narcissism it seems to be working all differently in the other place you see him is Mania with like bipolar where people get really Manic and they get these manic phases and they're like I'm going to do this I'm going to build this I'm going to take over this my records can be the best and and that Mania can look like narcissism to and those are probably more closely linked to psychological disorders that we're aware of the ones like narcissism the ones like schizophrenia like do we know what's happening in the mind that causes a distortion of reality is is it is it ego protecting you from the truth is it a chemical imbalance is it a series of things that all coincide like when you when you have someone who's both a narcissist and possibly schizophrenic with narcissism it's very hard to detect anything that's her too clearly biological like a in this is true for all personality really look into this Last 5 Years biomarkers or neural structures you don't really see him very clearly you do with schizophrenia there's some but with personality you generally don't see it in there you just can't find it so far and when you look at your next you know it's in the genes but there's no single genes is this warms of Jane are you more or less likely to be a narcissist more more but what have you learned from your father you like my God my father's ruin is what like many alcoholic children that won't touch liquor they talked about that as a sort of that identify identify with them or you do the opposite of the fathers in the alcoholic father like you send you your like I'm a teetotaler your father's a narcissist you become really nice you know we don't really see that what you tend to see a man traits like narcissism in all personality disorders tend to follow Family Lines so they're heritable but it's not really clear how that happens whether it's nurturing nature question with a lot of Personality what you find us about when they break these down into heredity coefficients they don't mean exactly what they say now but generally find it's about fifty 60% heritable you're born with it probably genetic and maybe 10% is parenting and maybe the other you know Thirty 40% of something in the environment that just really clear what it is yeah just random environment so that's why you have kids and I have two daughters they're very different people part of That's genetics obviously they're very different and all but it's also their environment I might have been a similar parent to both of them but they have different friends they grew up in a little different time a little different culture and all those forces affect you in ways you don't really understand so a lot of what happens this is this non-shared environment we just can't really explain parenting pretty small yeah that's weird what we say about parenting is it it it really doesn't make much of a difference but it matters so so I have I have two daughters and and the idea that I could change them into the one in the other through my parenting skills you know I could take my one daughter loves to dance and I could turn her into the one that loves 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I'll take my chances take my chance with coronavirus part which I've heard a knock to get conspiracy on this part but like I've heard the word Nano getting added to RNA and vaccine stuff and I wanted . listen we're leaving time now of Batman Arrow villains like we're like these guys have billions and billions and trillions of dollars I don't think more than most rich people would ever imagine doing that guy's built schools and Wells and help people get educated or they look him in his his wife though the Gates Foundation they've done a tremendous amount of the work but what I'm saying is a half but he's waiting into the controversial Waters at the Vets will listen but what I'm saying is the during this pandemic yeah he's become a villain for the first time ever since like 7 because you want to deliver when you are the guy inserting yourself into this very kind of volatile debate about public health and you're telling people they need to be vaccinated to travel and didn't these are the standards that you want people to adapt listen man if he could have just been a billionaire that took his f****** pool like telling people that they need to be vaccinated the better for the. Will say that he wants the world to look exactly like he thinks there's necessary and unnecessary thing he thinks that he should be in charge of people's Health public health or the he thinks that a group of scientist or him and his foundation should be in charge of public out to his phone really I mean there's also billions of dollars to be made I don't think he's doing it for money I'm not saying is evil guy I'm saying that we cannot write a blank check still in any way. We cannot write a blank checks all on the line we can't write a blank check Joe to anyone that's all I'm saying why because you know people around and they created and we talked about public health issues who's the guy who founded Microsoft phenomenal Quest yeah I mean it's a great question is it just cuz he's Rich he has an interesting what if I stepped up and start telling everyone it's time to get vaccinated everyone's got to get back to it yeah hey hey hey episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

you see the thing where Tucker Carlson was playing all these videos of Chris Cuomo talking to Michael Cohen coaching him on what to say when he interviews him did not see that oh my God Fox News CNN just ignored the f*** out of it they rewarded and pretend it didn't even happen right and they didn't address it at all and Fox News played at multiple times over multiple night it is clearly Chris Cuomo talking to Michael and he is coaching him on what to say when he talks to him about the hush payments crazy but just like I don't know why he would even I don't know why they did that the other ones in the news if you were going to be to be honest talk to you and me alone I would go to 100% I would say this is what you should say problem is he's a broadcast which is the Cable News Network was wasn't no it's nothing I mean it's nothing and it's absurd what is he is there's a little bit of the pretending to leave his basement I'm pretty sure there's a picture of him sitting at his desk holding a hundred pound dumbbell up in the air and bodybuilders are calling b******* interested I didn't see that also because of the angle that he's holding he's getting a lot of those guineas are stupid strong their their monkey strain Betty is there a lot of them sandwich shop your house who could curl his own body weight 10 times and nobody believed them and this guy barely lifted weights and he did it before wrestling me it was like a big-time wrestler Newton South losing the wrestling meet was like legend in the town because his arms were blown out cuz he made like a hundred bucks curls bodyweight 10 times I don't know if he's trying to okay this is where we get our news in a t-shirt this is different that's real that's a real weight whether or not that weighs 100 lb lb weight he's a big person large I'm sure that's the picture here's the thing I saw these people that are complaining and saying it's not real and all this s*** I listen you can do that I can be done people think you can't do that or crazy he's bigger than me he's bigger than me and there's a video of me on Instagram with a 92 lb kettlebell and I'm cleaning it and pressing it X over my Ryan he's bigger that guy's a lot bigger than he can hold a hundred pounds over his head and right like that I could press it and he's bigger than me he could do it some people are f****** strong challenge to prove you're not a liar I like Frank's Country Store Country Store Newton Inn Newton it was in Newton Newton Massachusetts Boston story where we was at the wrestling match and I was like 5 foot 7 wide I don't mind people not liking Trump it's weird when they're like Angry like icy Creek Omaha job go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

craziest when there's corruption but they'll ignore it because it'll it'll interfere with what they want like this Hunter Biden s*** yes bro it's crazy this was Donald Trump jr. and his Hunter the one that passed away or not still alive don't be wrong don't quote me on that but the Scandal is that he took a s*** ton of money from Russian billionaires right is not the Scandal Jamie to double Google and right now hold Quizlet what's a good start with the brother the wife of the I could be wrong and fathered child with woman while dating brother's widow she might been hot as well as the one on the right Hunter and Hallie Biden they broke up after nearly two years of dating he filed she filed a paternity suit same month Hunter Biden 49 Mary Melissa: after just six days of dating okay maybe he found the perfect girl after he'd already knocked up this other chick and this other chick he f****** hate it but he vowed to take care of the baby you know Shore people are message or listened the brothers dead maybe he's in love with the Widow maybe it's a perfect relationship I mean it's weird and it's strange how much did he get from some billionaire he got money from a Russian billionaire things like some these little scams that nobody knows about and then eventually they come out like once every four years election year but I think a lot of them were working for like the same Energy company in the Ukraine this involved with all these problems Hillary Clinton was involved with the name it's a really good Meme and received 3.5 billion wire transfer from Russian billionaire yacht okay he was briefed about sons in Vineland songs involving according to Hunter Biden verisma Hunter Biden Verismo what does that mean Joe Biden's son Hunter made money from Russia China man in the tank they don't want Trump winning 90% of media is episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

we have an idea actually brought some some Sanskrit to show you me up right and it's if the oldest literature in western civilization we think it it's among the Indo-European languages if the oldest recorded literature that we have it could be 1500 BC 1700 perhaps much earlier like The Iliad and the Odyssey and Greek this is the mother tongue of all the Indo-European languages and what they write about a lot is soma which is both a God and the juice that is pressed from this God what they're talking about there is is making this ritual potion very much like the cookie on that we find among the ancient Greeks and here Soma is described as a mixed potion llavecita means mixed with barley from Sanskrit Go Gabba is milk mixed with milk and so I've read all the theories that you have about what Soma was whether it was the Amanita muscaria mushroom or some psilocybin containing species or DMT the way that they described so my hair is always a mixed potion which so in this case mixed with barley intended Mill so that would be an ER got some sort of already there mention I mean that's that's what Rick Hoffman and and wasps and we're staying in 1978 we have we have literature from the 7th Century BC called the hymn to Demeter where they record these ingredients of what the cookie on was like what were the actual evidence so in the seventies wouldn't have much it starts with the literature which is what class is too and so that there's this hymn to Demeter that was discovered in 1777 a year after we declare our independence from Graham's people and what they what they found in there and inline absolutely cornea backless does nation state of California so what why do we know why they combined it with milk and it was a just so that it was easier to consume that. That's what we don't know we don't know why the cookie on was it was this mixed thing either but so in the hymn to Demeter the record these ingredients inside fee which is barley who daughter which is water and a black on which means mint and that's all we have so there doesn't seem milk you didn't say milk that was in Selma with all kinds of things and not you and not just barley milk but also honey as a matter of fact Soma is often identified with mother who which is honey in Sanskrit McKenna speculated that there was a there was a transfer in culture of psychedelic base culture to an alcohol-based culture based on climate change and also based on preserving things in Honey and that honey would create Meade and Meade it would show if people know is an alcohol beverage that's made with honey is do you think that this was the case with the use of honey as well that is used as a preservative or was it used to make it taste better or more palatable but we don't know we don't know that that's the problem we're talkin about ancient plants and fungi plant especially we don't know what plants are talking about so the ancient literature reports all kinds of plants across the line if I could if I could jump secrecy that surrounded the use of these potions in the ancient world there's a case from from Athens of the potion from uses being used for recreational purposes and this is roundly condemned by all concerned that it should only be used for the for the sacred and spiritual purposes of which it was intended said it was a great deal of secrecy that surrounded the use of these potions and the potions were doorway or a Gateway into another level Galaxy and what's fascinating from a uses and many other ancient accounts is the way that people come back having lost their fear of death that they don't regard death is the end anymore it's just another stage on the journey just the beginning of the next great adventure and it's Brian is up to be right to draw attention to the to the modern work with psilocybin and a game we find people who are eminently facing death losing that fear of death results of using psilocybin so we can begin to see connections between what we understand about these extraordinary substances in the modern world and how the ancient world use them to be a universal theme theme of alleviating the fear of death and this this this comes up constantly with people that I know personally that have had it had these psychedelic experiences they they say why I feel like I went to heaven or feel like Now understand why pee believe there's this perfect afterlife that I've ever seen a lot of the critics will say that it's some kind of natural human tendency that we don't want to die and that we're afraid of death and that's and that's religions provide us with some sort of Solace some some sort of feeling of security but I don't think that washes at all I think it's I think what's striking about the Psychedelic says it's a direct experience that the person has they have an experience is not a teaching it's not something that that told about is that a scripture that they read it's an experience that they have and that experience illuminates the the fear of death I think Brian by the way having written the immortality k for which I've only provided the forward I think Brian is absolutely right to be a psychedelic virgin in my case because I have used psychedelics and many other substances a lot of my critics just try to write off all my work song lost civilizations or on psychedelics they tried to write it all off as the rantings of a sort of drug-fueled maniac and I think it's very smart. Brian very smart of Brian not to put himself in that situation I hope he will work with psychedelics in the future but I think it was right not to wait with psychedelics before writing this book and the concentrate on the evidence well Michael Pollan who later in life experienced psychedelics and wrote pretty play about them for me. It's he's one of the more interesting people to discuss it because Michaels and investigative journalist tee-hee-hee. Takes deep dives into these subjects and his Deep dive into psychedelics was incredibly Illuminating and so when him I really enjoyed talking to him about it I really enjoyed his book as well his his perceptions of it we're really unique because you're talking about a guy who lived his whole life without them you know and then do headfirst for his book and can hit what happened kind of what happened to me when I when I wrote Supernatural I had I had apart from one experience without ice tea and 1974 I haven't used any psychedelics until I began to research Supernatural back in the early 2000s on because I'm a kind of boots-on-the-ground researcher I felt it was essential that I have these experiences what I couldn't guess what is the weight of the experiences would utterly change and transform my life and I stem from a level of personal experience why psychedelics do lie at the root I think of all the world's religions and those religions are now busily at work trying to deny that connection well they're not just trying to do it so there's many people in science that are trying to deny these connections to and it's it's so unfortunate that the people that are trying to deny these connections or the significance of these experiences haven't had them I don't think anybody who has a dimethyltryptamine XP can just dismiss it as being built on no big deal it's too it's too crazy that you need to do it sir this guy that was just the fact that it's it's one of those things where everyone who does it comes out of it saying I can't believe that's real rent a place where entities are actually communicating with you and another aspect of psychedelics is the moral aspect of psychedelics critics and enemies of psychedelics want to associate them with some kind of immorality but actually anybody who's worked extensively with psychedelics will know that they contain moral teachings whether it's the mushrooms or whether it's LSD they caused us to examine our own behavior around impact upon others to question or unkindness I'm to give us at least the push to to begin to be better people in more nurturing and more caring people for other so this strong moral element in psychedelics again it's totally ignored by by by the critics who just want to demonize these substances for it for reasons that I think a rather Sinister actually episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

one of these you talked about was that there was is transference like the Eucharist eventually became a placebo do you do you think that that what do you think it was initially you think was a psychedelic mushroom so that's Allegro certainly felt that right and he claims that Christianity is the guys for a near Eastern fertility and it's very interesting but there aren't many linguists who who support the proposition that disagree with him pretty heavily right I mean front from like a purely linguistic perspective to explain briefly so he he says I'm here to buy copies of it I've heard rumors to that effect yet and then he comes out the second book The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian myth knowing as much as you know about language did you feel like you made leaps did you feel like he made these connections that maybe were based on speculation it's at so he writes it is pure philologie word games and things that only linguist incredible linguist can actually read that it's really really difficult to read sacred mushroom and the cross but it did the basic premise is that the New Testament written in Greek as this is Semitic substratum so underneath the Greek the the off the gospel writers and and and Paul are actually referring to different terms and Hebrew or Aramaic and that these terms have an intern come from the Sumerian which any linguist would say is a language isolate that there is no real relationship between Sumerian and the end of languages like Greek and the Semitic so the the premise of the argument is something that mostly was doing except however and and call Rock has written the afterword one of the additions you probably have a sacred mushroom and the cross and he gets into some complex theories about psycholinguistics and this interesting idea that just because they aren't related there are certain words certain name certain vocabulary like plant definitions which which would carry across the different languages and I find that somewhat interesting but when you when dig into the the words that Allegra was recreating he's he plays as an Asterix actually not next to these words because they can't be corroborated by the ancient text so some of these Sumerian words he he straight-up hypothesizes as existing they're not really can't really be found an existing tablets so it's it's hard to correlate some of those meetings he draws down from the cimmerian but that said he makes it very interesting claims for example like in 1 Corinthians 22 there's a sin online or says about that we we preach Christ crucified is is a scandal on for the Jews and the Folly for the Greeks and scanned alone in Greek means like I'ma bolt or a snare like a trap and Allegro ties it to like a particular in Aramaic which is like the what it what he calls the bolt mushroom and intermarried makuch tequila and so he's saying that Paul's actually telling the Jews that you know the Christ crucified is a mushroom instead of a standalone it's like codeword like the Scandal on is a mushroom and then for the Greeks he says it's a Folly which is moida in in Greek which actually means Mandrake which is another psychedelic plan so there's all this this different and wordplay going on but it's really hard to tease out any physical forensic evidence for the stuff which was position if I recall correctly that the sacred mushroom was Amanita muscaria photo that's where I have a I think a Allegro did amazing work but that's that's one area where I where I have a problem with with Amanita muscaria as the as the Psychedelic of choice in in early Christianity because in shamanic cultures where I'm Anita muscaria is used it's recognized that the potion that the mushroom is much more effective after it's been passed through a human body R&D through the body of a reindeer animal urine and so-so the dodos those shamanistic cultures of Siberia use Amanita muscaria by drinking it in the urine of a shaman who has previously consumed the mushroom and I don't see a lot of evidence for that in early Christianity and it's why I like that Brian has done looking at the really hard evidence for psychedelics in early Christianity which if I'm correct Prime isn't the speculation about Amanita muscaria that it's seasonable it's it's it's seasonal it's also genetically variable like there's if there's different species out like much like different fruits taste differently there's different versions of the Amanita muscaria that have more psychedelic compounds in them and there's all sorts of ways of preparing them that we've completely lost isn't MMI getting his wrongs I've only had one Amanita muscaria experience and it wasn't very convincing and this is this is often often the case but but I'm told I'm not have the experience myself but I'm told that if you can bear the idea of drinking the shamans urine after he or she has consumed the Amanita muscaria you will have a really powerful Journey yeah but you don't want to shower and just laughing hysterically after you drink his urine red white yeah yeah there's also that you know the bag of the toys the the fact that they would drive them on on these coniferous trees the fact that this these mushrooms have this mycorrhizal relationship with coniferous trees with a they tend to grow under pine trees which is the tree that we use for Christmas trees after the fact that they're bright red like a toilet is in a package waiting for a Child open it up it's there's so many these weird connections to Colors the fact that reindeer with Santa Claus the fact these reindeer fly I mean that Caribou are notoriously attracted to Amanita muscaria mushrooms in fact people that have had psychedelic rituals and gone outside to urinate above talked about Caribou knocking them over to try to get to the urine and Caribou or reindeer you know if they have been observed eating these things so they have this weird relationship all those things are. connected in some sort of a strange way there's also a history of shamanic rituals being outlawed in Siberia and the way they got around it was it would come through the chimney which is just crazy they would they would lose and and and slide down the chimney to deliver the mushrooms it's like we're at what we're actually dealing with her our profound experiences in deeply Altered States Of Consciousness information seems to have been lost fairly recently because of you go back to the early nineteen fifties and forties and look at birthday or Christmas cards that Christmas cards and depictions of Christmas almost always contained elves and Amanita muscaria mushrooms the Amanita muscaria mushroom was synonymous with Christmas for some strange reason have you seen those old yes crazy right like what is that but it's all about the fairy tale books to 1970 and studying it in the fifties and sixties I think that's why he glommed onto the Amanita but it's such an unconvincing mushroom like the pl that I know that if anybody was really blown their brains out with it he writes a book about this in 1968 Soma Divine mushroom of immortality that that would that was his guest 244 Soma was experienced with psilocybin which is so universally regarded as being effective that's why it's so confusing I always found that strange 2 to be honest so so so Wasson I mean to explain where this where this comes from Wasson has this incredible experience with Maria Sabina and 1955 in Oaxaca Mexico and when he consumes the we thinks it's a loss to be mixed and he is catapulted to the heavens and he has his vision that that he described as the realest thing he's ever experienced under the influence of the other psilocybin and the thought occurs to him he writes later and 1957 Life Magazine he says that the could it be the case that the Divine mushrooms are in fact the answer behind the ancient Mysteries which is why he then went and started looking at the El Nido perhaps or eventually ergot which is where I picked up the scent at some point and his correspondence with with Albert Hoffman they together began focusing on her. Like we said because it's so common and so natural but so highly toxic to and Albert claimed to have this experience with it and so for four years and years after teaming up with call Rock they were convinced that are got to have to somehow be involved go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

how does a a self-proclaimed moron have the president of the United States and Biden get here podcast he's obviously a business is a huge business but not a politician in any way other than becoming president Cohen Trump and Biden get here you can do the DMT question right they did have a thing that said like Trump was on here for an epic 7 hour interview with Rogan and said had the best marijuana possibly he's ever had his eye tremendous Imagine That Guy high he doesn't even drink cuz he can you find that what did it say there might be a little bit we can get tomorrow okay put the order in but perhaps a few offers to help put speeches to do a drug test before debates really vines on oh my God it's just pissed painful I mean it's like I feel embarrassed. Sad sad and then there's the tremendous pressure that's involved in that job yeah I could imagine I mean not being at your best that's what I've always I mean I've always been I just don't get how there's these people have been in politics for 50 years and I'm like okay good job thank you you did it you serve whoever but isn't there some better I mean smarter younger like more energized what why do we have these 80 year old guys I don't know it doesn't make any sense I mean there's got to be people who are just like on the top of their game you can be the popular game in your 80 Wunderlich what it is what it is with the powers-that-be that decided to go with him do they think that he's a Known Unknown name of former vice president so that that bring them to but there was obvious Shenanigans they were really worried about Bernie Sanders taking the nomination there are in Acts of radical change to the Democratic party and they were not looking forward to that also you know they stepped in. Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar other people to back out to back down and then all the delegates went to Biden and then Biden whines up being the guy and you've almost feel bad for the guy yeah I mean that can't be our best options for running I mean so whoever wins you want to feel confident and I know people on the other side of where I I am don't feel confident by Trump people say while she's young and healthy still take over she is yet I mean so goes to that point of being young and you know energetic but she's kept a lot of people in jail gross and I don't know what the best way to do it is episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

I mean I think about how much I like how many mental health tools I need I don't like you I mental health problems I've had anxiety in my past I had debilitating hypochondria that I overcame man I should really write a book about I should write kill your hypochondria be before it kills you because it was debilitating you how did you do this but it was basically I took okay so it was kind of a three-prong attack because I'm like I can't live like this because hypochondria it truly makes you feel insane and you know you can objectively know I'm crazy but your mind gets stuck it's like OCD and so it's it's kind of based in OCD because you get stuck in a loop like I would just get stuck in a loop for instance like there's something wrong with my lip there's nothing wrong there's something wrong with my lips there's something random I don't know her just get stuck in that Looper I have throat cancer I have throat cancer I have but you know I would just feel like stuck in this crazy loop it since it's insane like a long line of hypochondriac before the internet there are these books or he'd be like if you have decent this symptom go to page 233 and if you have this and I remember my mom would use those quite a lot so I think she has some of it my dad is just a big worrywart so I have that kind of neurotic energy I believe but I think too I was smoking a lot of weed and I mostly got it when I was hungover like that's when it would be the worst as I would be hungover so anyway you realize what you did your body I think I just had I had to attack it from from three different places so the first is the actual I was like all right I'm going to rewire my f****** brain and I set myself out to do this and I've put a rubberband on and I did that stupid thing but it totally Workwear if I was like there's something wrong with my lab and I'd snap my rubber band and I feel like I'm healthy I am I would just replace it with I am healthy and why I read somewhere that it's a good way to help with like repetitive thoughts or to just help yourself it. I mean I was training my dog at the same time too and I was like this is kind of like dog training I just have to interrupt that and there's a whole idea of what fires together ideas whatever your kind of thinking and acting on it it just creates like a pathway a neural pathway in your brain that gets stronger and stronger if they're if it's like that like for instance if so this is why I part 2 was replacing the thought but I also couldn't act on it so I couldn't go look in the mirror I can go Google anything if I thought I had cancer I had to cut myself off from acting on because a lot of people have hypochondria the belt passively Google they'll go get tested for everything they'll spend thousands of dollars getting test luckily I was not on I didn't have insurance or too poor to really like lean fully into my hypochondria that way and I just had to stop myself from the action because that you know any time you have a thought and you act on it reinforces that connection that like Mind Body Connection and it would reinforce that pattern of worrying and then I had to start observing I kept is very I guess to it's very like CBT so cognitive behavioral therapy I didn't know this is kind of what I was doing but I would keep now they have very it's like you keep a record I thought what they cost. Like and I would just document when I had the thought what brought it up like what triggered that that cuz there's always kind of a trigger and then what action I took and what action I can take to replace it and so I sometimes it's just not acting out at all and then I started work therapist on all the things that were underpinning those the the triggering thought so one was like I couldn't hold your eye I just any time I felt like I was excited about doing anything I was going to Hawaii that was when I was like perseverating on my lips and I couldn't it was like I could not enjoy anything without my brain telling me that everything was going to shut and I was going to die so I had to look at that where did that come from feelings of worthlessness whatever then the other one was shamron sexuality like there was just a lot of Shame around like I was pretty promiscuous when I was drinking a lot and I didn't I wasn't always proud of the man I woke up with and it happens to the party girls and a chance in hell and so there's lots of Shame around that I had to really look at and deal with and and yeah so I just started looking at all this stuff and I liked it took me it was work it was freaking work and now I'm like completely free of it I don't ya I mean I had definitely I feel like I can live and breathe and I can just be present meditation add a coping mechanism they can be if you if you are not using them addictively but for many people like drinking is the be like I have a couple until it's drinking like that's that a cup until and people it's important I think instead of and people ask me all the time how I deal with the online hate and I'll let Mike I just go workout that's my answer to every to overcome procrastination and right and it's getting to the gym because the physical discomfort of truly look at you like you're mine won't Criminal Minds episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

this is another thing that's going on right now this is the perfect storm the convergence of all these different things that are happening at the same time and one of them being The Cove at lockdown lockdown the polarisation of our country with Trump and then you know this this weird thing where everybody has to pretend it by doesn't dying like this is all happening together the same time like Everlast to pretend he's going to do great job yeah freezes and rethink this you guys have anybody else on Deck not knowing I mean I guess Harris's on Timberland I guess he's one of us I seriously love between whoever was on the undercover cop he's a he's in New York like due to New York been wearing Timberlands forever they've been wearing them since the 80s or whatever they started wearing stop wearing bring it back Timberlands you're problematic but I've been getting canceled for that first I said something like he may or may not be slipping into dementia I mentioned about why I'm not voting and then someone from The New York Times said that isn't a widely debunk conspiracy theory that he is slipping into dementia and I said okay I said may or may not and can you post likes to cite your source for where this has been debunked so that my like people after I didn't see it and this New York Times researcher writer says well I've seen him speaking and that's just what I gather from my Q-See could you imagine how Savage they would be attacking his this is where what is getting gas lid because they're pretending that everything is okay because all they want to do is get Trump out of office but in doing that you're exposing this very bizarre Tennessee that people have to comply and two along with these lines of thinking and behaving and talking and I can't get into that man cuz that's cultshit yes religious s*** and that's where these things come from come from everybody not saying what they really feel because there's an agreement that's been made you going to be on the right team aren't you you going to do the right thing you can do the right thing anyway and he said if you vote for Biden I will get you this guy's an interview come on we have to save the country those those real message I got like a pro did one of our brats Unity campfires and yeah and you know I was asking everyone is saying that the other side of the existential threat and then it was kind of like well we need to come together because this that is the existential threat but everyone but isn't that like why is everyone on flight 93 so I guess maybe I have optimistic and America like I don't really see how Trump or Biden like how can may I don't know I don't know that either one of them can't destroy America in four years because that means America's already fact what we're kind of fart future future but we're f****** and flaming arrows and s*** go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

the chemical age touches on a lot of subjects that I find very fascinating particular pesticides I am consistently terrified of pesticides I'm ran to a man wants that I met on a ranch and he had an artificial thigh bone his femur had been replaced with I got a piece of metal like a metal bone and he told me he got bone cancer from pesticides they use on a golf course that got into local water supply in a bunch of so in that area. Cancer and it was like some large-scale lawsuit against the company or the golf course or pulled but I remember thinking like woah like I did okay I didn't even think of that like of course if you're going to have all that green grass you have to do something about the weed you have to do something about the bugs that all that stuff is terrifying when when I was listening to your podcast the scientist podcast and your friend Pete Myers Pete Myers interview and you were talking about the prevalence of these pesticides and chemicals that we use all over the world and he said I think is exact quote was am I wrong in saying that there's not a square centimeter of this planet that's not somehow or another polluted by humans in our chemicals and you said that's accurate that's accurate that's insane and you think of you've been to Alaska and you go to Alaska it looks pristine it's beautiful and you think everything is perfectly clean but in fact even the most remote places in the world like Alaska are getting atmospherically deposited chemicals including pesticides that are used at lower latitude and so there really isn't anywhere on the earth that's not polluted unfortunately and you are explaining the way these chemicals get into the fear and then get distributed all over the world at 10 to a still like a whiskey or a moonshine still and you look at an old and old still the way it works you would have a heat Source like a Bunsen burner that's heating up a liquid and that liquid bullet eyes has some of it evaporates into a gas and then and then that is connected via glass tube to a glass ball that has cold water on it and that whatever vaporizes that he is going to condense on that cold surface where the cold water is so that's a basics of how you would make a Distillery and the Earthworks really in the same way so the equator is the part of the earth its most directly facing the sun is getting the most intense solar radiation sea of these contaminants like many pesticides pcbs a lot of other things that the some some portion of them will volatile become a gas and they'll be in the atmosphere it gets colder so when it's winter time and I'll be a little higher in latitude and the next summer the bullet eyes again will evaporate again and move north again is called the grasshopper effect and over some number of years they move to Wade North when they get to the North Pole to the South Pole those are hemispheric sinks for these contaminants is cold year-round and so the amount of deposition from the atmosphere is far greater than the amount of evaporation and therefore the polls have the highest concentrations of classes of these so-called persistent organic pollutants they're the ones that are relatively light that can move to the atmosphere as a result that and these are also fat soluble so they get into the food web and as you go to beach food trophic level that you end up with higher and higher concentrations so the animals with the highest concentrations of these certain kinds of a persistent organic pollutants on Earth are these high trophic level long live animals in the Arctic like the killer way on the polar bear that will have millions of times the background concentration of these contaminants things like DDT Mercury a lot of other chemicals a lot of pesticides flame retardant chemicals and selling so polar bears when they they test these animals are so is the people in these areas eat these animals are they at risk of being infected by these contaminants or is it not at a level where it's going to harm them now it's a it's a really sad case of environmental adjust because you have subsistence peoples are the indigenous peoples of the Arctic that they're living off the marine environment the reading bowhead whale and walrus and Ice seals and polar bear and every single one of their meals there getting in the fat in the rented oil they take the the blubber and they render oil which goes under all of their meals every single meal they're getting hundreds of parts per billion pcbs and pesticides and things like that so it's just grossly unfair when you think about it because they never used chemicals that didn't benefit economically from these chemicals and yet they're subject to that some of the highest concentrations in the world and you are also saying that their breast milk is contaminated with it yeah actually the way this whole problem was discovered was in the 1980s scientist in Canada wanted to understand breast milk contamination of women who lived in southern Canada in the industrial and agricultural areas of Canada and so they were thinking work me find a reference population of people who have no exposure to be so they decided to go to Baffin Island in northeastern Canada to look at the Inuit people that live there and they were surprised to find that the the women on Baffin Island their breast milk contain 10 to 20 times higher concentrations of chemicals like DDT and pcbs and and Mercury than the women who lived in industrial areas where these chemicals were used so that was a first kind of global alert that that actually were were poisoning the People Are People of the Arctic or poisoning them and how the rights of indigenous people in the Arctic to live in a clean environment became part of the Stockholm convention on persistent organic pollutants service representatives from this tribe to go to the negotiations every time it's because of this problem is called Global distillation because of this fact is it's like a still the way that it works that's on the table or a possible solution of theoretical solution to try to extract that he an actor the problem true false we talked about one aspect of it which is this atmosphere transport of contaminants for the other aspect of it is there are also thousands of locally contaminated sites in the Arctic I do a lot of work on these things like formally is defense sites in the Cold War so the military built thousands of these US military Europe Russia military and besides have terrible problems with contamination and typically when the military pulled out of them they just left everything behind we have sites we've worked Alaska where there's just feels of barrels and you don't know what's in the barrels and they're leaking and Immunity tested and you find there's there's all kinds of nasty things flame retardant send pesticides and pcbs so long time been there for decades and unfortunately these chemicals many of them persist for decades that's why they were so wonderful you know pcbs were so wonderful because there were stable they could last for decades but that's also why they're so bad because they disrupt the hormone system they caused a lot of problems so in terms of what can we do about it the main thing is to not be using these chemicals and to be using does it feel called Green chemistry which seeks to instead you safe chemicals in place of these toxic chemicals but yours are cleaning up you have is also things to do to clean up or involved with that in some places and it's an important thing to do but we have to stop the problem even before it gets going when did this problem started when did human beings start using large-scale pesticides so large started in the 1880s and at that time they were based on metals and metalloids so naturally occurring toxic metals that would kill insects or kill fungal past things like that and those are actually quite dangerous things like lead and arsenic being used in in these pesticides are dangerous because they ended up on the food so you'd buy an apple and if you didn't wash it while you a dose of lead poisoning that continued until about World War to we made a dramatic shift from using these metal based products to using synthetic organic compounds its own world war we saw the origin of the organochlorine compounds and they're going to phosphate compound and an industrially became the basis for pesticide use that and then they were broadcast all over the environment following World War II end until today so in the 1880s when they were using their using lead and they're using arsenic what would it with a combining Locust I go over there so the very first commercial pesticide was actually copper-based pesticide new is used in France to stop the the mildew that was destroying The Vineyards and once it was found that it could destroy it is called a water mole once it was found that could destroy the water mold and Save The Vineyards scientist realize you could also use it against the potato blight which is caused the famine in Ireland in the 1840s and other famines around the world so I became a very powerful tool to prevent famine and in a one thing I like to look back on his as you can think why do people poison the world like this with these horrible things but really their motivations initially were quite positive they're trying to stop famine Ireland adjustment through this devastating famine they were trying to stop infectious diseases that were affected by insects things like malaria and yellow fever so the motivation was good but unfortunately use for public health instead of just using it for public health we started using it in the house for convenience for everything is really crazy when you think that the human species has been around for hundreds of thousands of years and it took till 1880 before we decided to f*** everything up a pesticides the ass a long time yeah and we f*** things are pretty fast because now we have a world that is like you said anywhere you go in this world you're going to find contaminated animals go to Antarctica and you measure pesticides in penguins in the rags and you'll find very high concentrations and are they health effects of the Inuit people and the people that eat these animals is it is it having a detrimental effect on them it does in fact the cancer rates are quite high and among the the people who are subsistence hunters in the Arctic and that's really how I got involved with this kind of work is that people reported very high cancer rates also High rates of Developmental disorders that could be due to these and and so they're their groups other teams of scientist to work on this I was brought in as Nico toxicologists to work on some aspects of this and the others quite a few health problems associated with this or these subsistence Hunters are they free of all the other problems that many Inuit folks have in terms of like cigarettes and alcohol and a lot of people have been introduced to some of the vices of the Western World now and it's the same kind of problems also with these communities in Alaska there's a lot of problems with alcohol how do they parse whether or not it's a contributing factor you think it's a contributing factor and it's very hard to parse it out and actually this is the justification the government off and uses to say well it's not the contaminants in the military side that's causing the problem will say look the cancer rates are no higher in this Village that's next to the military sites and they are in this Village this away from the military site but you know it it's it's a you can't actually solve the problem with epidemiology The Villages I work in typically are no more than 800 people know why and so how can you do a proper study of a rare Health effect when you have a small population so I'm sure it's contributing to the health problems and unfortunately people use the fact that there are these other issues that cause health problems like smoking in order to justify not doing anything about the pollution and so when you go to these Villages is it uniform that most of them were using cigarettes and alcohol so it's not uniform sewing Alaska actually most of the villagers are legally dry and and so it's it's illegal to have alcohol it's illegal to bring in alcohol really but many people do or they Homebrew is this because the villages realize the problem with this in the community exactly until they have passed their own laws that they have their Sovereign governments they pass their own laws to make their Village is dry but there are still problems of course with alcohol and drugs I communities so they passes laws they make them dry but people sneakersnstuff in anyway yeah small airplanes is typically a State Trooper searching through looking to see if anyone's bringing alcohol in cigarettes as well as I know cigarettes are allowed so is there anywhere you can study that has a issue with the pollutant but doesn't have the issue with alcoholism and is there a village figure it out avoided the alcohol so that's a great question I don't know why I've not come across any communities that don't have multiple you know multiple problems is difficult and it's the same in other parts of the world what I've done work like in Australia without original communities there's there's a whole bunch of things going on that are harmful to health but the part that I'm focused on his contribution of contaminants right I just was wondering if there was a place we could examine only didn't the contaminants of some of these people have figured out how to be it's a great Craftsman Rider the movie great way to study but I don't know now you were telling me before that you also work with some Native American tribes as well is this the same issue I said different kinds of contaminants I'm doing work down on the arizona-mexico border that's mostly on pesticide and we're working with migrant Farm Workers there and so if if you think about the the pesticides over common when we were kids and and a little bitter are these organochlorine pesticides like DDT they were pretty safe to handle and other problem was that they were destroying Wildlife causing species go extinct it's why the bald eagle almost went extinct by the peregrine falcon almost went extinct was from DDT and and so countries including the United States faced those chemicals out they were replaced by the organophosphate chemicals pesticides and these were developed by Nazi scientists during World War II there very soon to the Nazi nerve gas poisons like cabin and sarin and those chemicals are incredibly toxic but they break down faster in the environment so we ended up trading doing a trade-off where they're gonna chlorines would end up as residues on food and consumers would would end up with two unacceptable levels that can be go back into the 1960s the average American had 12 parts per million DDT in their body fat and that's a toxic level of he knows the average so I don't really terrible consequences for help so in order to prevent that we switch to organophosphate but then that caused another problem because then we're asking the farmworkers instead of using this relatively safe chemical to use do you something is quite dangerous a lot of people get killed during application and the Farm Workers were some of the most vulnerable people in our society they're typically 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like if you went over a guy's house and he had a real doll you know one that doesn't move but you know he's like well I just prefer that to masterbation like I don't know like masturbation is normal but that's one step removed like that's weird that thing looks really real like you have to be turned on by those we have to have an incredible imagination where you can imagine them coming to life is that you do a replacement relationship yeah it's the walking Phoenix movie She relationship with this voice essentially mean that's what we're talking about we're just talking about in the physical form I'm worried this is inevitable I just it seems inevitable it seems like if this these companies already developing ones with wonky AI it's going to be like the difference between that brick that Michael Douglas had on the beach and you know a Galaxy S 20 Ultra you know that the newest latest greatest cell phone said that they're just going to get better robot marriages would both be legal unacceptable around the world deliver herself and then people realize that their romantic relationships men and women you know it's not sexy. Good to have sex with something but that isn't really into you I'm going to be laws against desert campaign against sex robot in the UK the first was trying to get Louis Banning sex report to the development of State in the UK and now it's kind of something that starts and says that they just want to discuss so it is going to happen out set with technology you know that we know instinctively is so wrong it's been really hard to criminalize because of the way that we live life in the moment child sex doll the importation of it that's illegal not having one with trying to get it in so we can stop photos of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're out go download Spotify

you might my real worry is that it doesn't matter what we think is right that technology always goes towards Innovation it always goes towards Improvement it always goes towards technology advancing where it's more effective more available easier better cheaper faster this is what we always do it's what we've done with every single thing we've ever invented and it's got to happen with that as well you think the march of technology is completely inevitable and there's nothing we can do to kind of shape it. It's just going to happen whereas I think I think none of this is inevitable and I think human beings at all capable of changing without technology even though like we might not get sick with coronavirus wearing masks for other people's benefit I think he has already adoptable and we we can adopt that's going to happen but clearly you've seen videos of spring break in Fort Lauderdale where kids are making out half naked on the beach nobody gives a f*** about coronavirus and then there's some apps that show the spread of them leaving Florida and going all through the rest of the country and then all these infections and show up there I think most people all reasonable and are able to behave in a kind of way with the good kind of winds out if I was an alien and I looked at them without any connection to the way they think or behave or their culture plays into technology it plays into this want and need for the bigger better faster greater thing that comes around every year and that's what fuels them to work everyday they go to work and they they toil and one of the things they they reward themselves with is the newest greatest thing and this is the fuel for this technological growth in this technological growth appears Unstoppable because it seems like that's all the human-animal does if you looked at it from afar dejectedly all I'm seeing is a constant wave of Technology not just technology Define the human being is that we use technology and that was social animals and those are two different things and the technological advancement isn't necessarily when I buy that they're addicted to their cell phones yet most people still use their cell phones that we were aware that it's harming us but yet we still use them because we just now it's just a phone no big deal but you know it's a big deal but yet I still well, you think yeah you know I should probably be doing all those things I shouldn't be constantly checking the Twisted feet of that person I hate that's in the back of my soul this is a person who enjoys people I just I don't know how much time we have left as in this form like when I look at the archetypal alien when you see those little gray men with the big heads I'm worried that would that is is like we instinctively know that that's our future that where we're going to be these genderless weird things reproduce through some sort of you know some some sort of Technology instead of these bizarre in perfect biological creatures with emotions that we you and I both enjoy so much because of all the all the weirdness I mean my whole business everything I do is about the weirdness of people whether it's stand-up comedy with words podcast or even fighting what I do, turn on fighting that's all the weirdness and imperfect nature of the human animal and I think it's awesome I mean I love people don't get me wrong I'm not rooting for technology to do this but I'd I see the writing on the wall it's it's not well the thing is it's all about the richness of The Human Experience what makes it interesting to be human which isn't just the basic functions of all life or basic make Stove clicking noise you can make sperm and eggs out of cheek so so you could make an egg on your cheek cell and sperm do be a future wide people can make sperm in a relationship I like strange things like don't be around to music will the stuff at Comic-Con be explaining the drive to be within the drive to to be a logical is very very powerful go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

I only desire the approval of a relatively small number of people who I respect and if they said to me I think you're totally wrong on this Douglas and I listened but when is people you want to do well I want you to do well if some guy in the street with an I hate Joe Rogan t-shirt on tells you what you should do what was he supposed to I hate you hate everything about you and whatever but but I'm just sympathy for those people who died about being ornery jobs and they just being horribly treated by The Madness of this era I have every sympathy for them and a lot of the cases I right about that I can't say what I think and I can't speak up on a list of the thing cuz I just think if you're not going to now when are you going to if you don't gain doing this life what life you expecting to come where you'll do it able to do the same I am it's it's it's it's it's like being told to raised fist jump through the hoop is it demoralizes you and it makes you a small person inside you you you will be demoralized because you'll know that you shouldn't have done that in the some level you will think badly of yourself for having done it you'll feel regretful you'll feel cowardly and it will affect your life in other ways and the opposite is also true with the malta person who doesn't go along with the name of the person who refuses to walk with the crowd will feel quietly but significantly better about themselves and I think we'll be a better person and they will achieve more in their lives whatever that is because they will have self-respect and that's what these that's what was it you grind people down Peri-Peri telling thing that happened in the Communists are in Eastern Europe travel Great Lake check later says it's where he he he cites a greengrocer in Prague who has to put up in his window like everyone else but noticed that says workers of the World Unite old green grasses you will have to hang it the first thing is that the greengrocer is showing to everyone that he is a party. He said he wouldn't be at what rate is a business if he didn't do this thing but it also hangs that everyday as a sign of his subjugation it's a little thing but it has and he could be such a person ends up hating the people who make him hang the sign hasten because they have demoralized him but you think you're doing a little thing but you're not you are diminishing you do so by doing this because you know that you could be something more than the person who just has to hang the party headquarters tells you to hang this week well said thank you I'll Stand It episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

if they continue to do things like Chaz the six block place in Seattle me that seems like almost a little bit of a test little bit of a Mad max-style take over six blocks in Seattle held it for a considerable amount of time with the compliance of the mayor who called it the Summer of Love everything seemed to be covered in urine and there wasn't any statues of a hell of a lot of planes and everything I graffiti over and I thought people should realize this is what you inherit do you inherit Rubble rubble and see what you're talking about the current problems and where they could lead and there's there's so much of what you were saying in that book that could be used as a like a guide to what's happening now I love it I thought I will thought okay this is a plague like with Justinian plague it's going to end in we were going to lose not in massive numbers of our loved ones and if that's the case at least of these end-times the social justice Warriors will pipe down one constellation they have done in recent years so that was something very interesting happened which was the parents for the social justice activist diminished he's lonely and feeling bad and it was one of the guy who came out as gay as non-binary or look at me difficulty was Finding College was a complete lack of empathy season 10 of the gay women that is relations between the Sexes race and trans and I know things like women is suffering most from covid and I thought we were going to look at the stats on he needed to look at this through the prison they look through everything with chaise women men disproportionate relations between Texas and then you got some people doing that with K the BBC in my own country break it difficult for LGBT people do the families who will that families live with their mom and dad and they might be hypersexual they're just be forced into Chastity by government regulations I'm going to be buried in the wrong gender and. they'll double down the majority listen to the aisle and Minnesota happened and the race one came back with a vengeance and that's been happening through call bit obviously because in all of our countries we had this thing of ethnic minorities to keep black people suffering disproportionately from the virus and when I was worried about was it in the American media and the British media knows where this was being portrayed as as if this was the case and it does seem to be then it was because like America couldn't even import a virus in China without giving it its own special racist spin 11 you could look at to explain why they might get high mortality rate including numbers of nurses in the Health Service underlying health issues that wasn't being focused on it kept on being portrayed as if this could only be because of racism and and that just worried me so I feel even a virus a pandemic call bring us together and we still have these people during the Minnesota that then that really took off and we discovered something very important which is the racism and the whole issue of race is even more important than trying to avoid the pandemic and that and everything is flooded from it is just Rolling On and On it's very very worrying is everything I feared would happen which was everybody doubling down on these identity traits in the era when we all hoped we could move Beyond them you know we also got this weird point where we're supposed to collectively ignore the fact that having 50,000 people marching through the streets arm and arm easily be spreading the disease and there was this giant uptick of the disease in America and everyone's stuff their head in the sand and pretended they were not connected Chisholm kills and sodas covered but racism is clearly a bigger underlying risk than covered and if you take him that view then everything's possible isn't it I mean because however you would work out the numbers of people killed by racism racism Ohio the nose some coffee when what are the figures in America 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I talked to David for 4 hours yeah what happening that up because he discovered a UFO off the coast of San Diego that when they tracked it went from 60000 ft to 1 ft in a second or less they don't know how fast it went because it's the only blip of radar but traveled in an insane way the defies all of our understanding of propulsion Auburn standing of physics and this thing also actively was blocking the tracking systems which is an act of War if it's you know that the Soviet Union or China was doing that that's technically an active Wars this thing was doing something that show that it was intelligently aware of the fact that they are using tracking devices to try to lock in on it and it behaved and moved play that defies Oliver understandings of propulsion systems it didn't give off any heat signature and the people from the Navy that he was communicating with saying yeah we see these every now and again we don't know what the f*** they are the thing I was going to say this a lot in that it felt like from that entire experience that because it didn't have a Chinese or Russian flag on it whatever he saw is we tend to just two Tire system is doesn't want to acknowledge it like you just you don't know what to do with it so they actually most of like when you return back to the ship and there's a bunch of Paula said I'll put you know that saw it there's a lot of people that witnessed it and is also the video you know the majority of the people didn't know what to do with it they just went on with our day like nothing happened you know they kind of made fun of each other or whatever or you know yeah yeah sure bro you saw aliens but like didn't they didn't know how to comprehend it that's that's what I meant like if we encounter life from elsewhere in the universe we think we would be as a population excited but it feels like just like with book Bigfoot we want we're excited by the mystery when they're like when they're just Out Of Reach when they're like Among Us there's so many Mysteries and incredible things among us that we just kind of take them for we don't even know or ignore them actually even worse we ignore them and that was the weird thing the biggest mystery to me about David fravor saw and a lot in and also with the other videos in 2014 something like that to go fast is like it wasn't a bigger deal than I thought it would be like the big deal was when the Pentagon came out and said that they have recovered some vehicles that are not of this world now they didn't expand on that there hasn't been more conversation about that but my this isn't purely speculation my speculation is they are slowly spoon feeding us information to allow people to be more comfortable with the inevitable arrival something they believe that something's coming they don't want it to happen all at once you see what happened just with the pandemic you see what happens with George let's see what happens with anyway time does a big shock to our system and is chaos mistreats its unmanageable and if the UFOs came in the middle of something like that like Jesus Christ like who the f*** knows what would go down if I was someone who's in a position of power I would say listen this information going to get out it's inevitable so why don't we let people know now just give them just in words say we have recovered crafts that are not of this world say something crazy like that print in the New York Times get it out there and then slowly drip out more information when they see these videos that get more and more accustomed to it then eventually to be like masks that you walk down the street everybody has a mask on you don't even think about it yet but okay so let me know I'm saying and this is such a fascinating question if the government is in possession of an alien spacecraft what is the right way to release that information if it's more potent than any weapon that any that than any civilization has currently on this planet so if the United States is in control of this vehicle that is more potent and can do things that like you really do have something I can go from 60,000 feet to 1 foot in under a second that mean that's that defies all of our understanding of speed right that's so fast if you could do that while there's arguments YouTube that's just 15 20 30 years out like the stealth bomber was developed secretly so what defies it's our perception of its movement capabilities is rectified but there could be some tricks on perception that mean that's the whole point of the stealth bomber is it's difficult to detect sure and so there could be same kind of tricks on perception they could just be playing different kinds of amazing secret human-created technology that is a boy deceive the human eye I mean but the thing about it is they tracked it it wasn't just that it was the human eye that saw this and it's deceptive or radar doesn't catch on to it it is possible that some human created technology that's so far Advanced from anything that we're currently propulsion experts and in fighter pilots like David fravor and military people it is possible that some civilization one of those one of the big civilizations on this planet weather is China or Russia has come up with something that's above and beyond what everybody knows it's not likely but not likely that they made that much of a leap and your sense on the other side of the taelon technology say I'm more optimistic to me is scientist and engineer and I see David Pharisees says this too in this time of pandemic in this time of like just just hard negative news everywhere they will be nothing more inspiring than the government and inspiring like Neil deGrasse Tyson weigh coming out and saying we're not releasing the videos like they did which is I don't know if you know but they just put videos on a website like there's not there's nothing you just videos just like would like some boring documents describe like nothing they're not inspiring not talk about like Neil deGrasse Tyson or like Carl Sagan Cosmos style like a beautiful inspiring what is more inspiring than an alien spacecraft look here is a fascinating mystery here there's nothing more inspiring to us humans then that there is life out there intelligent life out there but how would you handle it like let's imagine you are the leader of the United States and you find out or the whatever the head of the Navy military intelligence program whatever whoever you are you are a person that's in a position where are you realize that this thing from another world and you have this responsibility to try to somehow or another publicize this I would I would I would approach it 100% from the perspective of science here's a mystery so forget weapon you mention there's this inclination to think like how I figure out a way to use this as a weapon to destroy Russia or China as opposed to seeing it like like going to Mars colonizing Mars or going to the Moon originally there is some competitive element but mostly it's a human pursuit of understanding and human pursuit of overcoming our limited knowledge to serve unlock mysteries of this universe, physics perspective from an engineering perspective release all the information I have and release it in a way that gets the other guys Tyson folks in the loop so it's it's almost like an inspiring effort for us as a Humanity to understand what the hell this thing is versus let's keep it secret and see if we can use it as a weapon this thing and maybe we could you know use it for good but you got to realize that anything that surpasses any and all technologies that we currently enjoy in terms of fighter pilots and jets and Military superiority if there's something that just is above and beyond. If everybody has a Model T and you have a Ferrari or better yet you have a Tesla Model S and everybody's got a Model T U R urine are you have something that is so far above and beyond what everybody else has not really a fair race it's a joke you'll dominate if that if you were in a you have a Model T and the other person has a Tesla and you're racing in the winter get to decide who has all the food who gets all the women who who lives in the nice house like you going to win every f****** time right now if you have a UFO if you have a spaceship that comes from another planet with her a million years more about a million years of evolution and technological Evolution dealing with elements that are common in their planet that didn't have to be created in a particle collider here and they only exist for a brief amount of time if they have something like that is powered by something that we can even imagine and you figure out how to use that here on Earth you will have technical superiority technological superiority over every other civilization every other country in that technological superiority it's so funny as chimps are like talking about our village we won our village could be better than the next Village when there's an alien civilization that's a million years more advanced that would easily destroy us if you wanted to or actually understands the nature of existence in this universe on levels that it like we Champs aquaholic meditation and finding inner peace and understands on such a deeper level like the nature of Consciousness nature elgin's the meaning of life all that weird stuff that we're so obsessed with understands another level and here we are thinking about what the Russians are doing versus like understanding that mystery I think in the face of that mystery of something that's far more intelligent than us I think we can't it's a ridiculous notion to think we're anything but one human Village and in terms of wepa I can cuz you said that get all the girls or whatever I think the weapons things the key thing and we are ready at least the major Nations have all the weapons we need to destroy each other it's like winter need extra weapons while I mean it feels like it feels like if an alien technology was here and would figure it out would be able to have something that destroys other chimp Villages an order of magnitude more efficiently than nuclear weapons there by having an asymmetrical sweater from a game theory perspective of power over other nations and we can tell China what to do we can tell Russia what to do that's that's the perspective from which they're thinking I just thank you all so that we are constantly innovating when when you when you talk to people that are designing Jets and planes and fighter pilots and they really talking about new systems if they're created in the new you know nude new weapons they don't just sit back and say we have enough weapons to destroy Russia and China and the rest of the world combined so we're just going to stop did this is not how human beings innovate human beings are in this constant state of wanting the newest latest Innovations we want to improve upon every single existing invention until we hit some sort of Singularity Point whatever the f*** was striving for is a culture and that would be that propulsion system if that UV do really have something go from 60,000 feet to 1 ft in less than a second you're dealing with something that we don't understand we that we can't do that right now if we could figure out how to do that and Propel people that quickly be a game-changer now how much of a game-changer what does that mean we were in this weird place where we kind of agreed to not use our best weapons right like when there's a there's a Face-Off between the United States Jets and a Russian Jet and they they come close to each other like overtime or something like that it's weird because we're not shooting at each other but we're real close and even the messages that we have there not nuclear like but we're in found in in a skirmish with another country but it does we don't use all our weapons like if we approached War the way people approach to war and you know the the Middle Ages we would just nuke the f*** out of everybody that talk s*** right anybody anybody would have charged you say what did you say f****** launched those missiles f*** those people stuff where are they if we had something that made us fly better and fly faster the real question yeah how much would that change the world I don't know I don't know how much it would if we got in control of some UFO and we're able to get to China quicker with how much of a difference would that make in terms of like the way they responded to our military we're in the position now where there's multiple countries that have the ability to destroy other countries there's a Ron has some sort of program Pakistan's nuclear program India's nuclear program you know of course United States Russia China has many countries that have the ability to f****** Wipeout huge numbers of the population like that just launched just one crazy psychotic leader who just decides to just listen we're going to f****** make our Mark here everybody together on 123 go boom episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify shows of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

first of all congratulations on the recent ruling was a 9th District Court of Appeals was it said that what you exposed with the warrantless wiretapping was in fact illegal and there are many people that are calling for you to be pardoned now yeah it's so much has happened this ruling this is actually not the first time the federal government has the appeals court struck down from the federal surveillance programs as on lawful but this one is really important because it happened from an appeals court Butler from a single judge it was from a panel of judges and what they had ruled bulk collection of Americans phone records was illegal 2013 so this is a huge victory for privacy rights what it means is there's this provision of the Patriot Act Like You Remember the Patriot Act of zillion years ago they get to look for your email. I mean it's like the word Patriot is attached to that in a very disingenuous way I calling that the Patriot Act is is it's really creepy that they could do that should have like a number like Bill A1 saying so you can debate the merits of it it's just so much propaganda attached to that name like the Patriot Act puppies you know act there's actually one that's been they've been trying to push through recently which is basically outlawing meaningful encryption from the major internet service providers like Facebook or Google for whatever reason got out of bed in the morning and they actually wanted to protect you or the security of your Communications in a way that even they can't break like right now from spying on your Communications what if Google wants to Rifle through your inbox right at Facebook wants to go through all your direct messages. And give that the federal government like it you tap one button and boom they've got all of it happens every single day well companies like Facebook have recently realize that's a real problem for them because all these censorship demands that you've seen where like there's deplatforming requests if it happens in one country right like if the US government is allowed to decide what can and can't be said by this person on this platform for the US goes look we got a Court warrant they said and they do it shut down. Country they can no longer longer operate and so the idea that a lot of them have that they've considered in this is actually a bigger thing in the covid contact racing Billy and Bobby both had the keys to unlock that message and it could be sent through Facebook we can be sent through Google if it could be posted you know on a bulletin board in the Town Square but without that key which the people who run the bulletin board right the people who own the Baltimore Google Facebook they don't have that key only the phones banned laptops hand over the encrypted message right and Facebook goes well here you go here is our copy but we can't read it you can't either now you got to actually do some work on the government side and go get that key yourself and then you can read it right but we can't read it Congress is trying to stop basically proliferation of that basic and an encryption technology and they're calling it like the child online Predator act or something like that where they say it's all about protecting posting of like child exploitation material really really horrible stuff but that's not actually what the laws about the laws about making it easier for spies and law-enforcement to reach deeper and deeper into your life with a simple warrant stamped by any Court Everything Is this never used to be well usually I think it means if they can come in your house and search right there the the real issue with warrants in when it pertains to encryption like when you're talking about the child safety act or whatever they're calling it anyone would say yes we have to stop child Predators but the problem with having the ability to use something like that to stop child predators in my eyes III start well if I really wanted to look into someone what I would do without send them some malware that would put child pronography on their computer and then I would have all of the motive that I need to go and look through everything I say if there if they were a political dissident if they were doing something against the government and you were someone who is acting in bad faith and you decided okay we want to look into this guy but we don't have a warrant what what are the laws what what can get away with it while we have the child endangerment act and so because of that were allowed to peer into anything but we just have to have motive so we have to do we have motive and we both know this it's very easy to put something illegal on someone's computer for not paying attention it's very easy to install like you could send someone a text message that looks like a routing number for a package they're going to get they click on that and then you at what is that with the Israelis have Pegasus you've read up on this well it's it's from Brian fogle's new film The dissident which is about Jamal khashoggi murder and how the Saudis use that to use they actually tapped into Jeff bezos's phone and that's where all of this is the suspicion isn't that what that's where all of those National Enquirer photos came out and all the attacks on him they had access to his actual phone through this so someone could easily get into your stuff if you're not paying attention and then they could use you know whatever acts they've come up with whatever it's the Patriot Act or whatever act when they could just get into everything you're doing look at your WhatsApp messages look at your your Facebook messages it's real sneaky and it's it's dangerous it's a it's a dangerous precedent to set so you mentioned the NSO group in their their Pegasus malware set and this is very much a real thing with your well-read guy this is like this company CEOs named I think it should let Leo is running his real it was previously owned actually buying American Venture Capital firm I believe they've been re-bought out but doesn't really matter their entire business is praying on flaws the critical infrastructure of all the software running on one popular twice in the world the number one target right is the iPhone and this is because the iPhone is secure is it is relative to a lot of other phones is a monoculture right like if you if you have an iPhone you get these little software update notifications all the time that the people's devices get screwed if it's user error right like you answering your password somewhere you shouldn't it's like a fake site it looks like Gmail but it's not actually Gmail you just gave the guy your password that he uses your password to login actually break into a device that is not patched right patch means getting these security updates the little code updates on the fix holes that researchers found in the security device well time for everybody to world problem is basically all these different iPhones right you got an iPhone 6 he got an iPhone 8 you got an iPhone x e on iPhone you know three whatever these are all running a pretty narrow band of software versions and so these guys million different people a half of them were completely out of date but what it means is not one version of software the running it's like 10000 and the section bad for security on the individual level but it's good for security in a very unusual way which is the guys were developing the exploits the guys like descendants of a group or trying to find ways to break into phones they now have to have like 50 different where they're all changing that got different Hardware that got different ship sets for the good God different like all kinds of just technical variables that can screw up the way they attack your phone and then when they find one it only works on like this Samsung Galaxy line it doesn't work on like the Google pixel line or where is they realize this is difficult stop now it works against basically every iPhone and who has iPhones all the rich people write all the important people all the lawmakers all none of the guys who aren't so they made a business on basically attacking the iPhone and selling it to every two-bit Thug who runs a police department in the world and these guys are really like the best in the world a tracking what NFL group is doing if you want to learn about this stuff the real stuff look up citizen lab in the NSO and what they have found is all the people who are being targeted by the NSO group of class of people to countries that are using this and you know it's not like the local police department in Germany trying to bust up you know of terrorism rain or something like that government spying on the head of the Mexican opposition or trying to look at Human Rights Defenders who are investigating like student disappearances or it's people like the friends and Associates of Jamal khashoggi was murdered by the government for its people like a distance and Bahrain and these like petrol states that the Bad actors will pay literally tens of millions of dollars each year just to build you break into an iPhone for certain number plants cuz that's how these guys do they sell their business plan to go will let you break in any iPhone just by sending a text message to this phone all you need to find the phone number for something which will give you specific on the the physical phone answer the question or the answer to this is it really depends on the exploit like the easiest forms of exploit the easier types of exploit or where they send you a text message right and it'll be like an iMessage or something like that and it's got a link in it that'll be like oh gosh terrible news you know your buddies father just died and we're making funeral arrangements are you going to be there it's the day after tomorrow and when click the link for the funeral arrangements it open to web browser and the web browser on your phone is always the biggest most complicated process in it right there's a zillion lines of code in this as opposed to an instant messenger where the fuel lines code in it and they'll find one thing in that where there's a flaw that let them feed instructions not just to the browser but basically escape the little sandbox that the browser supposed to plan it supposed to be I can't do anything to harmful and it'll run out of this sandbox and it'll ransack your your phone's like hardwired operating system of the de system image it'll like give them privileges the to do whatever they want on your phone as if they are you and then as if they have a higher level raita and they'll lose access to that but if they've already use that to gain the passwords that you use to access you know your iCloud or whatever when they have control the phone they've already got your photo roll right they've already got your contact list I already have everything that you've ever put in that phone they already have all your notes they already have all your files they already have everything that's in your message history right they can pull that out immediately stop being active but they know you changed your phone number all they have to do is find a new phone number and then they can try to go after you again the benefit is with that old style of attack if you get that message and you don't click that link you're somebody in a vulnerable class right before it looks suspicious you don't know who this person is the number isn't right something like that and you save that link you don't click the link you don't do anything but you send it they can basically use that link to basically use like a dummy phone like a sort of Trojan Horse to go to the site that would attack your phone and catch it and this is what the sort of process that all of their research is based on their other more advanced types of attacks that actually don't have the defense against episodes go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll 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. don't have a concealed carry we're going to fix that okay like super fast alright that's good to hear that you went to protect you exposed to the whole entire world and telegraphing if I walk into a room that's like the first guy Mike one you're probably useless to is concerned about you and not as an asset that rather as a threat I don't know if you went out to the guys out here any of my friends the black lives matter protest with a case around their neck what are you doing accidentally discharged their weapon into the crowd of peaceful protest that kind of bravado of open carry in that sense where they're like really Freedom not exercised is freezing one of the reasons why the comedy is because you are pushing the limit of what people are comfortable with especially the first amendment I think it's super dumb but I like people exercising the freedoms a protest of support it dangerous to be there right now so I wouldn't the cost vs gain of what happens at those peaceful protests and then the thought of even open caring is is idiotic feel like showing up one of those protests with a gun like unless they're coming to you and trying to take your house or break down your door why do you have a while you walk around with a gun just supposed to give it supposed to be a peaceful protest and the ideas so you're inviting them almost with that. Yeah, we had a poor kid killed here in Austin Peay an AK and a pour-over driver got in the middle of a protest and he's like holy crap his pissed when he dropped me to drop off and he went to go do another pick-up and Uber like automatically routes though the way to go so he's following his Looper out and he turns and he's like a protest he's a soldier from Fort Hood and I use concealed carrying in in in his Uber vehicle and he got stuck in the protest and the protesters just warm his car and this this this kid that died he's actually really need kid cuz you know his his girlfriend was black he's there to support her she had lunch with physical impairments and a protest you seem kind of some inflammatory things beforehand but like point in his purpose was really good and pure and like trying to do the right thing but then he runs up to the side of a car and pointed a gun at an Uber driver that is scared and confused and to get shot that's the recipe for disaster I saw so many different versions of people had Twisted the facts people that said he was unarmed people that the guy who got shot premises to drove into the protest purpose do so many edited what look like sped up cuz you was trying to get around a person and they cut right there cuz it looks like the guy speeding up to go into the crowd but super it when you watch the whole video it's really obvious with that poor kid was trying to do with the driver I saw a fascinating this PhD communication broke down from the initial release of the information of the story how immediately started being distorted yeah fruit for two different sized about this detail include this detail and by the time you got the game telephone or like he hears this catchphrase and by the time it gets all the way around the room it doesn't sound like any semblance of what it did when it started when you got in the final version I'm super enraged at one version and I'm super enraged and another version but neither of them are true and that's what every single issue happening from the funny the police to Black lives matter to antifa it's like can we just be reasonable and talk about what's really happening and we have some real good examples of the worst-case scenarios are in this country right now and one of us Portland like Portland is one of the best case in eras of completely unreasonable ridiculous s*** that's going on every single day 101 days of the most massive mayor in the country and they like f*** you resign to move out as they're going to burn this place down so I was just coming back from Africa on SFA Mission Security Forces assistance like we the military go to places that have insurgents and we try to legitimize the process of government so in counter-insurgency there's like all of these different missions from joint combined exercises for training to foreign internal defense to sfa's Security Forces assistance and I'm over there doing a counterinsurgency mission and I'm coming back and I'm seeing the same kind of horrible dangerous recipe in Portland you know the the same types of organization structure and and it's an Insurgency is a charged idea that the Insurgency buys the dod defines it is an organized group trying to delegitimize or overthrow a constitutional government I got style that. And I think if you went to almost anyone in Portland like what are you trying to do right now like that's what they're trying to do about it all right and that creates are really hard how do you combat that cuz you have to combat the Grievances and the ideas you have to NSS dangerous as it is those ideas are like a cancer because when truth and information is being adjusted just like we talked about with the shooting here in Austin and we have two different versions and some people are the echo chamber of only hearing one side of it it just keeps radicalizing more and more and catching more momentum and then the reason that they're there is is so convoluted with enough year are you there for black lives matter or you there by systemic racism or you here to like what are you protesting about like I think you'd get a lot of different answers to do anything that's good the other thing about it when when you're allowed to throw fire into the lobby of the apartment building where the mayor lives and no one stops you and you're out in front and people are playing music and dancing and everyone's going black lives matter is excitement to that right something's happening and we talked about people that are out of work the economies f***** no one knows what to do everyone's scared covid-19 a certain percentage of people can't do anything about it there's no vaccines there's all this tension in the air and then you have this movement and then this is the most exciting thing that's happened and then for people that don't have jobs and can't go anywhere what the f*** do you want them to do they're going to get sucked up into that especially if it aligns with their political ideologies there a left-leaning person and then like we have a real chance for real Revolution here and then what they don't understand what I was talking about Seattle you're doing the same thing you would hate for people to do you're taking over businesses with force your you're occupying land that you don't deserve your stealing buildings you're literally occupying building that other people built and then once you get there you're establishing boundaries you putting up barriers you have a police force that will attack and brutally beat people up for just filming what they perceive is in justices or what they're going to put on the internet and then people get shot and you calling the f****** you call the police and ambulances when people get shot their goddamn crazy it's so poorly thought-out across-the-board and if you do that if you take over an area what's the stop people from doing that to you you ready set a precedent very said we can do this with Force we're going to move in with no law behind us with no Court ruling with no reasonable discourse we're going to move in with force and we're going to take over there with numbers and threats and then we can someone from doing that to you nothing you f*** you already set a precedent already said this is how it's done and then it's just chaos and Anarchy violence and larger group will win so from a the mission of counterinsurgency how do you fight those ideas is stability and security right if we want to see positive change and in you know kind of destitute poverty-stricken areas of the country urban areas where like really your talk about systemic racism you start looking like Detroit and Baltimore in Chicago how do you fix that it's not fewer police officers police officers the way that you fix it is provided providing stability and Security in an area so that then businesses can flourish capitalism and wives more job opportunities more wealth more education more immediately in 10 years the transformation of a block when a when a good business and good things are happening that business can't go there if it's dangerous if it's writing and it's looting if you look at every one of the city's add serious riots in uniform like Rodney King how bad those areas still are it takes like 50-60 years if they ever bounced back to come back from that so if you're like Yogo black lives matter but then you're going and why didn't you are absolutely condemning yourself to more poverty and then you'd go Andy from The can you remove the one thing that can provide stability and security out in the area that will bring in Commerce that will bring in business and jobs like you're screwing yourself because it's a long game and then the short-term they want Justice and they're like no justice no peace and I understand how this plays out you're literally going to f*** that area for a long time and a lot of money is going to be have to be spent in order to bring it back some of the money is a hard thing insurgencies are really cheap you know if if I want to ruin something it doesn't take a lot of effort for me to destroy it for me to build and protect something that takes a lot of men powers and that meant our nowers insurgencies are also a more successful than a conventional even if it's just warm ideas. That were in a civil war think I wouldn't have a geographic lines that these radical groups could align themselves with cuz that would be a different problem it takes not just Manpower funding if you're going to flood say Baltimore with police officers that's a lot of money and it would take a long time for a business to feel like it's safe and secure for them to go in there and start affecting positive change opening more stores more jobs more jobs more wealth more wealth more education more education that our schools and then boom we have a flourishing Community or people can prosper but it takes you no one idiot with a Molotov cocktail to bring that all crumbling down again weirdest of ways because I don't think anybody anticipated everything going this far south so quickly will not. 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for the aliens land aliens are coming buddy of mine the other day and another billionaire got a few billionaire buddies and and whatsoever that aliens are dancing among us and then a hundred percent convinced I used to be 60% I do Raptor 100 Commander fravor is he the Air Force and Navy Navy pilot I believe Commander favors in the Navy and he encountered this thing that they called the Tic Tac UFO this is an object that they tracked on radar that went from 60000 feet to 1 foot above sea level in less than a second they don't know how fast did it cuz it was literally a blip on the radar went from 60000 feet down to one they have no idea how fast it moved they have no idea how it did it it shows no signs of propulsion does no heat new exhaust signature does nothing that has any indication that it's acting in any way like in any propulsion system that we've ever observed before I yet I'm trying to track down to get this worked out I are you know I really don't even it was kind of odd that he and I were talking about it but he has a really nice playing and he lives in Malibu and Austin and so every time he moves from one city to the other it happens to fit my schedule exactly right so I like that's weird I was going early Hills today just for a couple of days you know I hop on it. I really enjoy this guy's mind and I consider him a mentor in business in life do you talking about and sold Patron I think last year for 5.1 billion dollars and still owns 6660 other companies including Paul Mitchell with you started visiting her never he never wants to stop for whatever reason he did and then if I said something made him laugh really hard because he told me about it you called me and told me it's how I sold it to McCarty for 5.1 billion and I said that sounded like a lot of money but it sounds like more money when you realize the point one is a hundred million dollars watch a show which I never watched because I think he got an advance copy of it which was Close Encounters of the fifth kind is what it's called and I looked it up and it was in was coming on something but it hadn't been on yet so I think he just got an advance copy of it and he said that it'll it'll take every single dad out of your mind it's ever been there in a minute yeah he's a he's a UFO ologist are quotes sideways face right skeptical hippo face right blank monocle is a lot of people that are making documentaries and lot of people that are there's a real good one know about Bob Lazar called Bob Lazar UFOs in Area 51 I think that's exactly the title of it but it's by my friend Jeremy Corbell it's about this guy was a physicist who worked at area S4 and the Nevada desert back engineering this craft that the government had recovered and immediately thought of working there realize like what in the f*** is this like right away I knew this was no technology that we had currently available as a physical he was a physicist nuclear physicist at Los Alamos labs worked on weapon systems what is this and they were basically explaining like these are recovered UFOs and one of them apparently Cordon to him was a very old and it was from some sort of an archaeological dig they found and the propulsion system that these things used was that they use this element called Element 115 that wasn't even proven to actually exist until I think it was 2013 they prove that it exists in particle collider but this guy was talking about in 1989 and he said that they had a stable Supply is that your phone to keep doing that describing exactly the same that Commander fravor had described in the Tic Tac UFO that they found off of just got it shut it so it doesn't make I just turned it off did you know that they witnessed this Tik-Tok UFO using in 2007 or whatever it was a David favorite scene this thing off the coast of San Diego so what those people that these crafts that were monitoring in the military they're saying they CDs like every few months they see these things they don't know what the f*** they are don't know what to do with a scrambled Jets to go watch them they actively block their tracking systems and then they disappear faster than you can look at it just take off they have no idea what they are they don't know where they're from they don't know what they're doing and then the Pentagon recently has come forth and release the statement and one of them being a day recovered crafts that are not of this world 86.6 I'm up to 86.6% I'm in dude I'm on my like 95% you're down from a hundred and I love to 86 I got to turn my phone back on cuz I got to show you what is the Miniatures a teacup pig and a girl great who wouldn't want it that you know it has to be three of them go back into the pigs the Bob Lazar documentary is a must see if you're if you're curious and on the fence about UFOs and I had that guy in here I talked to him he gave one of the first interviews that he's given in a long time and I picked his brain 4 hours I'll go back and listen to it it didn't seem like a bullshitters to me there's there's some weird part of it but there's always going to be weird parts are you talking about literally back engineering something that someone from another planet invented and using some technology that we don't understand and one of the analogies that he had was imagine if you brought a nuclear reactor to the Fourteenth and introduced it to them which fourteen hundreds of years ago of the age of the universe is it like this technology is it is technology it's clear that they figured out how to manipulate this element and use it to defend gravity and that's the propulsion system instead of using something that pushes like a fire that pushes against you know the wind and pushes you in a certain direction or propeller that pulls you into a certain direction instead of that it bends Gravity the way you described as like if you put a in a massively heavy bowling ball and center of a bed right it just sunk everything into the bed that's basically like a rather crude description of what this element does and with their this reactive that they have any spaceships that it literally bends gravity around it allows you to just instantaneously jettison that that ship into another position in the new place I'm getting a bloodletting what did you say again I think they've been here forever I think they've been coming down here and observing us and and waiting and it also coincides with there's a giant jumping sightings right after the Manhattan Project started blowing up bombs they they're like Google news alert on their phones oh my God Christ look at these things look at these crazy monkeys what have they done what have they done 91 what are you down to go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

how do you how do you feel about all this weird it out like I've been here since mid-February was in New York City right so we're going to get past this is not like the zombie apocalypse so I'm not one of those people that you know what's hiding in my bunker even though I like my bunker but I bet you do it's serious and of course it's tragic to lose anybody and then we have lost over a hundred fifty thousand people but you also got to keep this in contacts right I mean we've had pandemics before pandemic just means across International founder is so there is no snellman here is the coverage because of political reasons not to jump right into the political thing but I can't help but think that we wouldn't have quite as much confusion and we wouldn't have quite as much you know the asked that people are feeling if if it weren't for his notice or they've the visceral hatred that exists out there on some sectors for the president and I don't have a dog but I have a feeling coverage will change in November of biting winds and and not as science doesn't change right and still the same like a virus but I just have a feeling that we'll see a tone change suddenly it'll be a little bit more about it biting winds will be more. tested turned out positive in the the doctor asked him what his political leanings are and he said why and he said well I really believe in hydroxychloroquine but a lot of people who are Democrats are don't like the president don't want to use it I don't like that is hilarious in the early stages of the virus seems to be very effective now there's all these people that are coming out I talk to my doctor about it why do you think that it's it's because the doctor that I use currently he recommends it for people that are high-risk as a prophylactic that's the way Trump has supposedly taking it and he's like it's actually there's a study that shows that it's very effective study from Italy that shows has very effective as a prophylactic and he says also when you when you get it you get the catch the virus and then you can't get it quickly so if you can get hydroxychloroquine and you quickly but you know I'm a moron I don't know who the f*** to believe so I you know the s*** I'm like well do I believe the doctor do I believe all these other doctors say it's b******* do I believe that whole team of doctors by the way Andrew scholz has a f****** hilarious video on Hydrochloric win like what is it that you did one of those Instagram videos to go check that out but it's it's one of those things where it's like I wish the president didn't talk about it cuz then we would know what the f*** it is is it good is it bad that mean are people really not taking it just because the president is the one who endorsed it like that is about that information is partisan during normal times What you talkin bout a Public Health crisis and you would think we'd said all of that b******* aside and if we can't come together as a country during a f****** Public Health crisis what the hell's wrong but it's both sides both sides of toss and Hand Grenades at each other so it's not just one side of the other I'm going to send Jamie this right now cuz this is from Newsweek this is why it's really confusing this is from Newsweek and this is from a professor of epidemiology from I believe from from Yale School of Public Health already exists we need to start using it and he's recommending this is a real doctor a professor of epidemiology like what the f*** patients who are already seriously ill right you have to the headlines for the most part right and more and more people getting their bulshit information from Facebook you know user groups and nobody reads down and then and efferent media Outlets know that so they'll bury they the contradictory information you know the 20th paragraph or something Ben ya wearing masks so you know I don't see what the b******* is about the masks wear a f****** mask when you're on public why listen to this lady then it turns out the lady who leaves that the cause of impotence is spirits and she thinks there's alien DNA in vaccines is that what is that what she said Native American lady off the chain I think you can say that it's not crazy s*** I need a new crazy term what's a non-offensive crazy term is not well I shouldn't say not going to find anybody because there's no such thing anymore f****** nuts how about that the 2000-2015 sermon that laid out a supposed Illuminati plan hatched by which to destroy the world using abortion gay marriage and children's toys among other things and then you'll claim that DNA from space aliens is currently being used in medicine she also offered prayers through her website to remove generational curses transmitted through placenta yeah I see where she's coming from lady who believes in Alien DNA and Witchcraft and generational curses transmitted through placenta with children's toys I mean I got right now I got to worry I mean cuz you never know when they're going to sneak up on you and use these things and so but that's about all we got anymore of that and we do have some Lego so I'm hope she wasn't talkin about Lego she's talking about Legos that we know she's really crazy yeah but I think to your point again you know part of this as it would be nice if if if the messaging from the White House was was better but the number of things we wouldn't have quite the chaos that we do it right now Bruce Lee using the same strategy used to be a famous person says wacky s*** he speaks off-the-cuff he doesn't care doesn't filter in it you can't you just can't play seem like you could do that and become president but you can't do that and be president

just because you don't like Trump as an individual that suddenly you're okay with hard Life policies but I think the Democrats make that mistake they think they're their there think that that's the solution to Trump as far away from him as pause yeah and then I think people are more than ever now that it's it's very strange very strange to watch them try the break into that what was the building in Portland they were trial dad-to-be Old Courthouse a federal courthouse got to why why is why I just don't understand why would you try to break in the court out there did trying to recreate what went wrong but didn't work in Seattle right that whole Zone Chasm job board give me the worst version of the United States they put up borders immediately to stop people from coming in they had armed guards they wind up using policed I didn't have cough but they have people that act like cops beat the f*** out of people for filming the whole thing but over the years and end you know I'd I know Republicans and Democrats who feel the same way or in Portland in the surrounding right and they all feel like this place is slowly you know circling down a toilet because of local and State Management right and so what happened to Portland not really surprised you know it's it's a shame that the people that did that do this sort of activity kissed whatever the same sort a trustafarian bottom-feeding folks and really any city in the world who engage in a WTO protest because it's cool to get out there and protest and ask them will why are you doing this and you'll get ten different answers that they really don't have it's not like that and that the sad part about it is they they hijacked very legitimate protests over really serious important questions about how do we how do we improve policing around the country how do we get to that point and I'll tell you the most disappointing part about it is after after that the tragedy with with George Floyd if the focus had been on okay here's what we have to do we have to seriously not just lip-service we have to improve the police to solve this particular issue how do we do that there's certain logistical things you can do you can improve your wedding and hiring of police candidates right of of applicants for the job you can do that that's a that's a protocol you can put you can improve the training that cost money so you can improve the training and make it continuous not just a one-time thing it's continuous training on how to respond to situations it's like it's like weapons training if you don't keep doing it if you're not always practicing it just doesn't work right and then we can you can also improve disciplinary action concrete things that you can do they're not easy right but it's it's not as heavy as left as deciding in the aftermath of the Georges Voyager what we're going to do is we're going to remove racism from the hearts and minds of people that this is not going to happen I'd like to think it would infuriate gray get rid of racism but you know what you should have been was a protest about doing things that actual impact meaningfully people's lives and it in it in it veered off because people wanted to feel self-righteous and very often to what you have to prove how pure are you are you have to remove racism right now I know black people that object to white people I know why people that have ject two people of not of their rights I know Hispanics it don't like people of non-hispanic racism exists sad to say right in all mankind human element of of of nature you would you rather spend your wheels and act self-righteous and try to say well we're going to have this exercise we remove racism from from mankind actually make a difference and that's what we didn't do and then legitimate protests over over the anger and frustration about all this got further hijacked by again antifa Anarchist whatever you want to call this conversation about the protest term where they are large mostly peaceful protest and he had a hilarious point he said OJ Simpson had a mostly peaceful night the night he killed his wife it was only three minutes of the entire day it wasn't peaceful that is a f****** great point but it is true in the protests that most of those people want the world to be a better place right if the problem is the people that hijacked at and are trying to light the federal buildings on fire and in Smash monuments that you know we might mean like they're going after Abraham Lincoln 20/20 and understood what we know now about systemic racism however you live in the 1700 when you wrote with a f****** feather okay give the guy a break trying to judge people of the past by current morals our current understanding current thinking is is is pretty absurd right it doesn't justify past bad actions you know what did this idea that you're going to erase history or remove history or not learn from it going forward it is it discredits the ability of people to have rational thought right to it to understand and look at a context looking for something in context and say okay nowadays that's unacceptable but okay I get but you know why these things occurred it's tragic but in the UK Churchill the things that happen to people that made a difference and how we got to where we are today and Lincoln is a big part the 1865 the Emancipation Proclamation that's a big part of how we are who we are today it's look horrible that the early settlers brought over slaves from Africa it's horrible that slaves still exist today all these things are horrible. They're horrible but taking down statues of people that made a difference and made chain look if you want to take if you want to take down statues of Confederate generals of a good argument there we shouldn't have those or maybe we should have them somewhere yet somewhere somewhere mongolia's got to be right pure enough for the self-righteous mod no matter where they are on the Spectrum unify the country and in the aftermath of the Civil War and and there was a really true that was the really cheap ones to a really shity we made cuz they're real quick if you want. statues Trump wants it was next to get to take down George Washington and it was laughing like they're not going to do that but yet they are going to do that now yeah yeah and you know what two things again is always the same time somebody could be doing some things you disagree with vehemently they could have also done something that helped move the country forward did something that or had extreme positive play with these terrible acts and deeds but I don't think that removing statues of people try to make a difference you know what within the context of their their time and it was Lincoln 1865 with George Washington 1702 mean you're talking about people that when they were doing this they were the best example of humanity that you could find are the best example of what we had me when George Washington was the first president of the United States me you won't talk about f****** radical undertaking this crazy experiment and self-government while they escaped the grasp of of Europe mean it's really nuts again I think there's there's an element here that we we missed the we missed the boat maybe again right we've gone through this knowledge we haven't had protest before they don't black lives matter protest in Andover the same issues of police brutality and all that but it all falls in that same Bucket from my perspective that we we don't do the hard things right the hard things would have been to say state and federal position let's an act these different protocols that can improve policing let's do those things that we need to do that's a heavy lifting away the easier things are let's date on the Statue right or you don't find a find a way to to to make us feel better about herself that necessarily have it and it's like this this shell game I think that the politicians sometimes play in Portland where you know okay let's just play Kate this for a while protest will die down of love how do we do community-based policing how do we defend the police yet still have something that resembles a response to Citizens need for security I don't know what any of all that dribble mean if you want if you want to improve the policing it's an investment it's not the funding but I guess he's funding and saying that and saying that's what I'm for it's a easy f****** way right to feel good and a placate people and then you don't do s*** and then five years from now we have another incident because you didn't actually do the things that make policing better even worse for the citizen because now the police don't have any face at all in the government did not respected then unappreciated and you seen his giant up taking crime because their presence isn't there anymore it's really crazy man it's like a movie I've never thought if you went back to March when we shut down I never thought I would be sitting here with you at the end of July early August here and we would be talking about this I know but never thought that this would have taken place that we would have looked legitimate civil unrest in this country people getting shot in the streets and Pro you know I know that there's a real concern is a lot of these cities that they're going to someone's going to try to recreate what happened in Seattle recreate what happened in Portland and they're worried about it the thing about it is it seems so organized it really does it doesn't seem that haphazard it seems organized how does how does how do these things get started like how do you get something as big as the Portland riots well it's really good question and sometimes what you see is a what appears to be a Grassroots movement or Grassroots activity has swelling up from from a couple of neighborhood yes there was an element of that but you also see if you're talkin about in financing in in legal assistance and support from National groups right and yet it's in there it's in their agenda it's it to their advantage to make it appear as if it's a Grassroots movement so that all stays in the background I'd argue that in lbs some of this disappeared on some rabbit hole were some elements that help with communication support or Transportation Assistance or legal advice or whatever it may be absolutely they very rarely is there an actual genuine organic Grassroots movement that has no outside organizational support this spontaneous I left my phone in the car but yeah Michael get it working for the CIA you know how it works atheist but sometimes I sometimes you got to follow the threads of that you can pull on and and sometimes it takes it down in the shooting path and you think okay maybe there is something to this I wouldn't say you're there is but I would say you're open to the possibility of conspiracy like when you and I talked about the Martin Luther King assassination and you took a big paws and you said that one does not make sense yeah that's very strange and it's the way that you sometimes can get actually further into it without kind of Disappearing down some of these you know peripheral Side Stories and issues is is money right look for look for funding look for issues of where did money go because that sometimes will take you down a more legitimate Pat Theory or whatever and you're never starting firm ground sometimes when you follow the money it it it keeps you a little more grounded coming from that organizes and and and help these people get out of jail and and all that jazz media journalism in general isn't anywhere near as curious or or concerned with investigation as it used to be all right it's it's it's easier now to just say this is where I'm at I'm subjective of course I'm subjective you don't so here I go here is my is my the idea of objectivity in journalism is pretty much out the window with Portland early on friendships they they published mugshots in names of maybe a dozen of the individuals who arrested for violent activity activity now vestigation that's what journalism used to be made you know but it doesn't seem like it is anymore but that doesn't happen most journalists are left-wing there's a giant number I don't know what the percentage of is but if you want to go with whether it's Newsweek or CNN or the New York Times or Washington Post many many many many of these papers and organizations lean left there dirty secret the dirty secret is antifa attacks as the thug enforcers of the left the people that do things like this whether you approve of violence or disapprove of violence what they're doing is that they act as the people doing the Dirty Work that many people in left think has to be done in order to enact real change now you had the same thing in the right imagine my friend Tim Dillon said this imagine if the proud boys were lighting Portland on fire but do you imagine if we had a Democratic president in the proud boys were trying to break into court house in like Portland on fire people would go f****** crazy in it would be terrifying if it was a different political ideology but the same exact actions so because these actions are done with the correct political ideology you know under the guise of you no racial justice under the guise of reforming our government so then every okay with people literally burning books you just throwing books on a pile maybe that's a Bible what they been throwing the Quran right losing our minds but

say what I don't like is these f****** covet. The one with the nose oh my God what a weird feeling tell me when I get my nose open up Coke rocks in nose glands in neck

but then there are the people who are selling the antidote to their fears in the book I call these people that dread Merchants right the people who are going to sell you the bunker you know Jim Bakker just in case my TV more than one by yelling maybe got a big family maybe you want to go Old Testament of tickets really weird have you ever seen the the Vic Berger remixes of the gym Dayton man they are so much fun I got really addicted to those when I was working on this project the back in the 1980s I mean I remember that remember the Jim Bakker like he had had an affair with this woman and it became for whatever reason is big news like the same guy is anything anymore noted makes anything anymore yes I love that one Bibles 6 buckets buckets make stable get the food or she just get the Bibles with one bucket of Bibles and five buckets of food but I love watching and feed the audience from the giant trough real good freeze-dried food that'll last forever yeah and hitting and they do a big thing of rice and then they mix it all together could have slop is poured on top of the Google Peak refuel, this is my friend Chad Mendes has a really delicious company that they make actual is it freeze dried I think his stuff is freeze dried or dehydrated I'm not sure if aliens are real I'm not 100% convinced but if they are real bulshit this like it's a UFO says can they see it believe that that's a dope shirt past experience and you know there's like drawings like even in the Mona Lisa there's a weird thing or whatever in the background and s*** but there's a spike it's a spike in like because it's getting pretty weird here the spike they think it's hard to tell because sometimes when people talk about UFOs bunch of other people hallucinate or lie there's a lot of that UFO you get a bunch of nut just nutcases we just want to tell crazy I was probably 16 I was at in Upstate New York and it would just stay there so I will let me precursor this my aunt and uncle were very strict and we had to go to bed at a very strict deadlines probably 10 p.m. and I was looking out the window with my cousin and it's just a light that just stays there and then just f****** goes off I mean it just you can't explain it well if you're 70 R17 that I'm 16 how will probably how strong is this memory when you're looking at it we try to remember medium medium but I mean they weren't there for sure something took off and did something that didn't make sense to your sure and then Utah I mean their s*** happens all the time I mean even here in La I can't tell you how many times cuz I used to live in Tarzana so there was like a balcony here and it looked kind of like it sounds corny but like a classic like force field whenever you forcefield and it just kind of goes like this and it's kind of like a dome in a circular shape and it just goes like this and goes back in in Tarzana looking down at the f****** City and I'm like how did no one else see this all across the country there are situations where cops have to pull their guns and have to use up there are but they're not right but if it's you if it's got to be ready like this idea that that's not an important it's it should be of critical importance also being played maybe not never mind you are very rarely going to need any of you know that less than lethal force of the least lethal Force because you are managing situations if you need these a lot. Talk to somebody who's maybe on drugs and not able to know how do we manage those situations verbal with interactions with communication so that we don't have to go up the chain of command of you know of levels of force that seems to me to be an incredible amount of training that must be necessary and it also has to be constant and consistent Academy they go through some academies are 4 months summer 6 some longer you know when and the makeup depends on who's running that Academy has to like the breakdown of you know how much is in the classroom how much is physical how much is tactical so I'm not sure what the numbers would be on that and I think that is a really good idea because that at that level you have a real understanding of how to defend yourself and how to control body I saw a video on both seen quite a few of them but one of your pathetic videos of everything was two people trying to hold one guy down completely ineptly the guy gets up runs gets into his car and shoots both of them and then takes off and I'm like Jesus Christ went into his car got a gun like they had no control over this guy to people like that should never take place freak of nature either wasn't like they're trying to hold down Herschel Walker for some super athlete now it's a regular guy just they sucked and it was it's terrible to watch so I wake up at 5:30 first noise and then laughter I'm like these f****** doing fart jokes at 5 in the morning and that's the thing that people don't realize it when you don't have TV internet entertainment and you're just with your family and your homies all day you're bored as f*** so they joke morning till night like I don't know what they're saying laughter laughter someone cuts a fart joke and I'm like alright let's go so you saw the pictures they're ripped back muscles six pack the kids have six packs I was very out of shape I'm still out of shape but I was the most out of shape and think about waking up at 5:30 in the morning and the thing that's the final animal that's like kind of left is baboons I called they almost call them in that part of African like the baboon men cuz that's what they eat tastes horrible to me baboons look human so we're in a cave man sleeping in the top women on the bottom wake up there's another cave and you see all those people not another baboons and they're pointing at us their point. Like look they're coming so I'm like this s*** is crazy we're hunting baboons family think about like running again I was pretty fast in high school I can do the 50 pretty quick I can't run at top speed for hours and I and I got these I'm drinking water and in this environment it's Advantage to have black skin cuz it's cooling these guys are sweating what's going on like a handful of brown water and that's enough for them and I'm like dude what the f*** like and they're telling the translator this m*********** looks like he's never caught anything in his life and he's like he hasn't and to me I'm an alien right to go he he gets his food from supermarkets what's that they hunt the food for him they cut it up and package it and sell it like they don't believe it. Should I tell them to like that you guys like a f****** supermodel can I bring you to America and do a fashion thing and get you guys paid and why would we want to go to America tell me what you know about America isn't that the place where people jump off buildings to kill themselves like that concept is so foreign that when someone explain suicide to them and was like oh my God they don't know that I'm there like I said that first week is withdrawal and like Fockers my phone and then all of it goes right now I'm not thinking about any of my addictions I'm not thinking about like I feel peace I'm not I'm not miserable my depression goes away and I go morning till night you wake up you hunt for food you get home celebration everyone's happy that the men brought the food back the women you know gather the berries we have a big dinner celebration cuz every meal you got to be grateful for dance party by the fire are the berries we have a big dinner celebration cuz every meal you got to be grateful for dance party by the fire and you're out couple fart jokes and you're out repeat the next day there's no time to be like bored and sad and upset and been worried about some b*******

train hop I'm going to hit you like Vice give me like one of the first vice shows was thumbs up Gavin McInnes Shane Smith those guys I used to have been writing and drive into the Congo looking for a dinosaur that was the first thing I ever saw you I think that's like then I talked to board about you and he was like you got to talk to this guy and when I saw your shows like look at this dude this is crazy he's looking for a f****** brontosaurus in the middle of the Congo in 1994 I was living in Israel in a farm called from Taco fish and it was a kibbutz and to live on the cookbook you have to work and I was the illegal immigrant there so I try I have no money so I'm making enough working on the farm just to live on the farm and after point I'm 18 years old I've been hitchhiking since I was 15 and I've seen the whole world have hitchhiked through Europe I pitched hike through the us back and forth and I'm bored this isn't nighttime like would you go to the Eiffel Tower to take that same picture of an explorer so I'm living on this kibbutz most of the other people that are from Australia and South Africa and what I love about them is they're so racist that they don't even know they're racist like I'm the only Asian guy there like Nintendo Sega Genesis and I'm working illegally in a casino illegally at a wedding catering place and then working on this farm so I have to three jobs I'm making like you know under the table and there's a library on the farm of books that have been left behind by past Travelers and of course is the old from the 70s or 80s National Geographic catalog and I start reading about mocha and then they I don't know if that's how you say it but it's scientist National Geographic people have spotted this f****** brontosaurus like thing in the Congo and the and it's still there in the Congo was still the Heart of Darkness I got a f****** find this thing I got to go there like I was I was 18 you decided you were going to go there I was like I have to go there how old were you when you went 18 years old on a plane and tons of lying and manipulating to get the visa cuz it was an open the tourism is only open to business and so I can make up the story that I'm a bodyguard to a toothpaste executive and I work day and night to get a ticket to the Congo and there's no tickets this Air Airline aeroflot and I'm in Israel which is close to Africa but because it's this Russian airline I get on this flight and goes to Moscow and then Malta and then sticks other African countries and didn't land in brazzaville the ones that got to get out right so when they're coming back breeding chickens and goats and all kinds of s*** on the plane and smells like s*** and I don't know this is pre-internet right I don't have any information on the Congo except for I heard that there's a dinosaur there 94 94-95 I lost track of time but it was right after high school so 1890 nothing and the second I get off the plane it smells horrible cuz they're just burning trash everywhere in it hot and it's oppressive and I go what the f*** my tiny why am I here and everyone there asked me what are you doing here they don't speak English we speak French I didn't know that they're in the middle of a Civil War I think the two factions were called the ninjas and the cobras like little kids shooting at night that every third bullet is like a tracer bullet so it looks like fireworks ago what is that shooting into the air first break out of malaria and people go why did you do that that's not normal behavior and I go the LA riots happened in 1992 I watched normal civilization normal civilized manners you know this is how people are you go to the store I saw that crumble overnight in one night it went from f*** you everything let's burn down Rob pillage steal everything I go out it happened that fast and once again that same kind of OI think I'm accepted in this country I think people like me for me and it's like no we don't want you get the f*** go back to where you come from so I think you know when I could go on and on about all the traumas I've experienced in my life but I hurt people hurt people I was in a lot of pain I was like I didn't like Korean people I didn't like myself I didn't like I'd experienced a lot of love abuse from black people and I just wanted to I didn't know anything there's no internet I didn't like I felt like an alien I like I'm like I don't belong anywhere I just so I would go everyone goes don't go to Bosnia don't go to the Congo don't go to the Gaza Strip and I'm going to go every f****** place my life has been very reactionary right my life has been like you don't tell me what to do you don't tell me how to park a cinnamon stick a butt plug do what you know so I'm in the Congo and it's in a full-blown War there's people being and everyone's like who are you who is this blond Asian here like I had my hair dyed and they and so I could go and tell a million stories about the Congo but at some point what I know the kids like to say 100% I've heard you say to 99% just to leave 1% 99% I was there for the dinosaur like like I was so young and dumb and stupid and ignorant where I truly truly thought I was going to find it like I died I didn't know enough about like the everything made sense to me cuz anyone listening to this right now we're talking about a story from 20 years ago right I was a stupid kid I believed in Santa Claus very late you know like I was a bed-wetter I'm f***** up man so when I finally did get to the Jungle I got out of brazzaville I got and I got to this jungle area called way so then I believed because the spiders are they speak in the frogs are this big and how big just everything is looks insane the snake they got snakes out here this big like it was like okay now I believe like every year scientist were finding a new species of something that they thought was gone and I'm like okay and it's and then and then I meet the pygmies and and that was f*** I don't know what version of the story I should tell cuz I can't get so dark I met a German Guinea name German guy there who was the same age as me and he could that this is in the city and then he could tell that I was lost I didn't know who this guy was he was being groomed to be like the next big politician in Frankfurt or something and so I didn't I didn't get this until later but he was here as is like sex vacation the f*** is many black he like black women who's going to f*** as many curb your language to have as many in relations with women as possible so I better know myself that's what I do language I want people that don't like you know that they're people that they want I came here for G-rated Dave and I want my money back or PG-13 so I'm with big frogs and big snakes I'm like maybe it is and what happens is we go to the last spotting of it right and then I meet but there are scientist that go out there and in the meantime I've never seen anyone murdered before until I got here right I've been through the LA riots I've seen things broken and burned down in gunspoint but I've never seen anyone hung I've never seen anyone Stone to death and Anna and it's absolute chaos I'm seeing people murdered I'm scared for my life I got attacked one time so I go I need to find it now I have to find this dinosaur and I also know that there's a chance that I might never go home so I write a letter to my parents they don't know where Amber think I'm in Israel on this Farm like I didn't tell anybody so I wrote my parents this long letter of I love you guys I'm about to embark on this to the Jungle have no money I've only one change of clothes at f****** blonde hair and I I go into the jungle and we get lost immediately I'm a f****** city boy hell do I know about the jungle what do I know what the jungle do you have any direction nothing I just I just knew what you know you know what when I landed in the jungle there was a guy that I think I want to say his name is Chris that was a Peace Corps guy and he was there to help build wealth and respond to Village and he said the place what you guys are looking for a second you're not going to find the time you know he was like the reasonable one and I go I know if you don't try you know I still believed I still wanted to believe I was willing to risk my life for it so we get seven f****** told the storm and so on so we get to the jungle and and we start walking there's a minor Trail and then it disappears it's just gone and I'm like we're f****** lost in the jungle we're lost in the jungle so I'm with this guy that the what we told people he was here to f*** his women is possible but we went with the story of he is the toothpaste executive and I'm his bodyguard that's a fake bulshit story he starts to think that story is real me a pineapple I'm not sure he's like you're not a real executive bro like I'm not going to get any starts like telling me like like I'm like hey you know that was a fake story right like he's like so we get lost for days and he starts to really be like humiliating towards me and right on my nerves and we had rations we went in with some crackers and some like tuna in a can thing and I go hey man we're f****** lost I don't know how to survive we need to ration this food out I come get it all he had it all and and and and now like have you ever been in that kind of situation where you like I'm going to die here never going to act like hope is gone like I'm in the thick thick Congolese jungle like I don't know how to get out and we've been lost for days like I don't know how to survive I don't f****** know how to like this is it you know making fun of me and eating my f****** rations like I would pump all the f****** water and put the the water purification tablets and be like face and I'm like dude what the f*** man like that I did all that work so we could shirt and so he was just he was a dick and so man and you're stuck in the jungle like that before so we set up a tent we have 110 and so we're in close quarters with each other at night the Moon is like this f****** big like it's humongous and you hear the entire jungle come alive like f****** monkeys and like things are bumping into the tent at night like huge insects in like I'm I'm I'm like I'm going to die here I'm going to die here so the few times in my life where I've been in this kind of hopeless situation the only thing that's going to get me out of it is if I can control my mind cuz if I cuz I'm I'm like falling into Despair and in the daytime I'm doing stand-up to the trees cuz we're just walking in like circles and I'm like hey how you guys doing tonight and this guy is riding my last nerve and he's and so I could safely say I lost my mind and so we're down to our last food and he and I and he did it again and I said bro what the f*** did I tell you we got to make this last I'm starving you ate the rations that were supposed to Bealls it and he's like whatever and he's he has a more like the associated like checked out like what like we'll get out of here somehow and I don't know his coping thing was to like talk down to me or whatever and so that night and we're lost at this point a week and a half maybe we haven't you know I'm f****** 90 lb I've lost all this weight I'm going to kill this guy I'm going to murder him I'm going to f****** murder him cuz I don't like people talking s*** to me like that I don't like I've been a punching bag for this guy for 4 weeks now and I'm just going to f****** kill him and if I have to eat them to survive I guess I'll do that and so he's out cold he's got f****** crumbs on his face tuna f****** juice from the food that was supposed to be shared and I pick up I go outside of town to pick up I pick up a huge Rock like bigger than this and I go I'm a f****** kill this guy I have officially lost my mind like I can't I'm barely going to survive I can't do it here with this guy so he shall that's f****** looking at his face and I pick up the Rock and I I don't even have to apply any pressure if I just drop it he's done like he'll he'll be f****** dead is there anything left is there any common sense is there any light left in my and then I just I didn't do it I am not a murderer I can't like in the mind I'll do it I'll do it murder Dave come to the front no one's ever going to know he does his family doesn't know he's there your family nobody knows who you are this guy Chris that Peace Corps guy he's not going to f****** say anything you can kill him right now he has a ton of cash that he hasn't been sharing with you you can get out of here you can f****** get some of your pride in your ego back those f****** guys treating you like a f****** like like a Chinese waiter or something do it no one will ever know no one will ever f****** find out you were you're probably going to die 2 you want to die like f****** catering this guy just do it and I'm sitting not I don't I don't want to I'm not a murderer and I didn't kill him I woke up the next day and I'm just looking at my Walker you don't even know you don't even know what almost happened last night for walking around hey what's that there's a f****** pygmy up one of those 200 100 foot trees he's just sitting there chilling like what is that is that a person with 200 feet above you from the place he was to get in front of us with second like this short Woods this jungle that was it mean when you when you're in there do you even see sunlight through it or is it just snow it's so dense I mean like yeah there's some crack but it's just this was also in the National Geographic why that the dinosaur would be here it's cuz cameras can't see it cuz it's such a dance thick forest and there's things in there that are like moving and you know did your description sounds terrible tear on a sleep in the tent oh my god dude I'm freaking out over here of the the guy comes up he's this short he's like tiny and then you guys want some honey what and this is this is where my skill as an artist has got me out of so many situations right cuz if you're if you're in jail and you have any kind of skills singing dancing telling jokes your celebrity so this guy didn't speak English we don't speak whatever language she speaks so I start drawing stuff like food like you know in the dirt and he's like oh yeah I got you and he NE and he goes and he brings us some meat that's all charred and I'm like I don't know what that is and I took one bite and it tastes horrible and I'm like I'm going to starve to death but I can't eat that wow and so it was like a movie he's like you know it's us like stumbling machete trying to he's just like like we get around the corner entire Village of pygmies they've never f****** seen an Asian person before I'm C-3PO and there that you walk so blunt they're coming they're touching my face they're like there was one older older guy in the village that I just spoke a tiny bit of French so the German guy can translate he's like the saying you come from the Stars you're coming from the stars and I'm like oh my God it's heavy so I'm like I'm like we're saved they bring us some honey they bring us some fruit and like they're laughing at us and you know it's like the National Geographic a woman's tits and looking guy. 1995 I was 19 years old yeah 19 years old yeah and they put that they put their clothes on for the picture they were all naked when I got in there hydraulic dinosaur I go here's a dinosaur and what were they saying there's never like no it's always like and it's through Wetlands like this there's going to be leeches like there's a disease called bilharzia where there's like a snail's under like still moving Waters in the second a mammal stepped in the water little f****** parasites shoot off the snail like like heat-seeking missiles and they go in your dick hole and then you piss and s*** blood till you die and I'm like okay so they're explaining all the the track in the way to go find his dinosaur and I'm like I went I went up until the leeches and then when I came out with the leeches I go all right like this is this is it you know I go help us get out of the Jungle and they're like it took less than a day that's how close we were to like in less than a day I get back home I'm 19 years old I start writing for for Vici start drawing pictures for them I do, cuz I'm writing and oh no I was writing for a magazine called giant robot and Gavin and Shane would read that magazine in there like they were they were ahead of the curve right like all print magazine right existed they were like we need to go to digital like like they were vices always been free everyone fiends it to go to those magazine shops or whatever and then yeah and they're like we need have online presence the internet was brand new and they said Dave that is the f****** and I told you not to PG-13 but that story gets very dark darker than will you go back with a camera and a camera crew and I said that was one of the most traumatic I almost died I saw people murdered there was a f****** virus were people bleeding out of their eyeballs okay I'll go enough time to pass it was 10 years later actually it wasn't it was that was 95 and then it was like eight or 10 years later and so that was the one that Vice filmed there like can you go back photo of the Mickey Mouse shirt with Robert Bowers from when I went with a film like just my camera so I go back and I don't even get to this met the doctor there was a doctor that lived in the village close to that River look at the track and he said he'd seen it and he's like not legitimate biologists of looked at those tracks could tell you by the way the footprint like they can tell whether things are fake or real not based on like how where the weight is distributed like someone who really understands how these animals would would walk I think he'll be really fake dinosaur footprints right cuz the weight would have to have like their description I just said it wasn't that big Oceanside. Big but it's like 30 feet 35 feet how big those f****** alligators worth oh I'm going to keep my clothes off and I go there normal penis for like a proportion correctly it like their s*** is down to your knees and this was back in the city when I got back to brazzaville and they like bro you know where dicks are so big and like why there's always naked kids running around like cuz we never wear underwear you never been Africa I'm begging you I know you're into the haunting and the bow hunting please like so when I texted you like this is the This Is Us please please so there's there's hunter-gatherer tribes in like the Arctic Papa New Guinea the Amazon Africa but very few like they're almost gone there's very very few people that live off the land and I just whenever the podcast went off the air and I and I and I ghosted I just lost my mind I hit my rock bottom and very similar pattern of what I always do when things get rough is I just go to Africa I go it's a weird thing to be like rich or being a country that's rich or half stuff and some as an adult someone else to teach you gratitude like I hear you say it all the time I'm like thankful I'm thankful I'm grateful I go but I'm not I have everything and yet I f****** complain like crazy and I need to get the f*** out here I need to go someplace where where I can I can I can learn to be grateful so I get to I'm traumatized now by the Kongos I didn't go to my second contact story when I would advise that was even crazier with his f****** Chief try to kill us but so Congo is the Heart of Darkness I get why those books are written I get why people have you mind losing an experience is out there cuz it is one of the f****** darkest countries I've ever been so I don't want to go somewhere different European settlers that they tried to live in the Congo for a while I'm at 1 did you see the houses that they left behind when I got to this bond to Village and truck his name is Chuck Chuck if you're listening and it's 20 years ago long blonde hair for Morgan Peace Corps guy he got malaria while we were there any goes please contact Francois and I know who the f*** is Francois Tri-Cities deep enough in the but it is still near a village it's not you know so we going to the in the jungle and there's like a giant Victorian French European house in the middle of the f****** jungle and I'm like how did this happen is like so we go in there and Francois is just like like some f****** weird French dude that just said I'm going to stay here at like 12 Bon two wives please like half black half white babies crawling around and he has a ham radio and he's like what's going on in like truck is f****** dying can he said to come contact you in Psychology I'll contact the aircraft carrier and they'll send a chopper in front of s*** but yeah that's that's the one time I saw French Victorian I don't even know how to describe the architecture is like a beautiful French home in the middle of the f****** Congo jungle bull the try to do that and it just detailed how it all went terrible for them in the jungle just over cranking the house like you can't keep the jungle back it's too powerful is too much there but jungle is grow so quickly trees trying to grow through the side of your sewage system like they're just it's just too much wild when my light when you just said too much like I just wild when my light when you just said too much like I just thought right now every time I hit a rock bottom in my life gets too much I go back to Africa so when someone says go back to where you come from a beast Africa we all do right we all do

I know you were doing to say some crazy s*** and you're going to torpedo your life now that you're a cult Guru with strawberry blonde hair it's more what you don't like and I hate gingers so I said why don't we just become way into discomfort if there's something that like I'm in a men's group also and they said and I told them I said I'm going to go back on The Joe Rogan Experience after 4560 I don't know when the last time I was here at 5 right I don't know it's been a while and so they go lean into discomfort start with what you least want to share this is me trying to sit there I'm driving over here and I go okay start with what I least want to share I pulled over on a Van Nuys Boulevard and I puke I have a I don't get nervous that you know and like these things like I'm I'm able to just almost disassociated like whatever and just crying and just going to any situation and I just felt you know and maybe is the breakfast I had a hard boiled egg and chia pudding that's what I had for breakfast so that's it that's it and do I really want to share with Joe that I tried on like four different outfits last night do I want to share with him that I got caught yesterday at I was eating at the dessert place called Johnny pastrami's in West Adam such as open its old restaurant that just reopened and I know that the guy that runs it Danny and he said outdoor I only Dan outdoor spots right now and Papa Joe give me the beat find a way to this then I go I've been canceled so many times I kind of like it now on the social media and the effectiveness of the pylon has been established so now whenever someone anything happens to someone all the the the the pylon people but but I like I like getting canceled like you enjoy it you see the Michael Jordan documentary end end it's 12 episodes I could have probably been like 4 and the story is the same and it just this guy didn't give me the best seat on the airplane this this guy overlooked me in high school if it's like all these lights and he takes it and uses it as fuel and so I sit here and I go home driving to be cancelled and I sit here and I go every f****** horrible thing that's happened in my life physical abuse sexual abuse verbal abuse spiritual abuse prison getting my car you're taking away or this or that you know anyting is always led to bigger and better so I'm like kind of like it you know yeah but that's just because you are real person like you're not you're not full of s*** in any way shape or form you might be crazy but but you're a lovable crazy and in one people know who you actually are it's like you have these moments where things are uncomfortable and you know and you're confronted with you know bad a bad scene but then you above thank you I appreciate that what is your threshold with receiving compliments what's your comfort level haven't seen you in a long time can I give you can I give you five I'm like this guy like all artists and sculptors out there listening paint the sky Skillet beautiful you're unbelievably curious inspirational you give me hope you're funny you're entertaining and your leader just talked all your guys right now like you're leading this charge to Texas right now and you're a perfectly imperfect unrepeatable Miracle of the universe that's having your great man I appreciate you a lot of people feel this way you're just on all the time you're in on YouTube or on a podcast on someone else's podcast so I'd still like f*** I think about you you're in my you're in my head turn on air gift store outfits last night want to make the bed so you see the ghost you see the ghost on the front you can give it away they're really scary and see them when cool times like at the pool so I got all the embarrassing stuff out otherwise I think I was at a restaurant eating at the corner and not having a full-on panic panic attack but I have a nice beautiful wonderful quiet life now I'm not on the air I don't do podcast I don't do interviews I'm not like my life is amazing like I completely changed my life since the last time I saw you and I go I I do want to talk to Joe but maybe you know me I'll just talk to you on the phone or go visit you in Texas like I do I need to go in the air so I had this sculpture that I made and it was in my car and I just brought it out and I sat next I said I was going to prepare a little bit so I started preparing for The Joe Rogan Experience and I start talking to this sculpture at the and I'm like looking in like 3 there was no one eating there and I got caught I got caught oh yeah I'm going on this thing tomorrow I just wanted to prepare a little bit on a little bit nervous I got my nerves because I talk to you what Thursday know I talked to you a few days ago and we talked for a while and I'm like this guy is a professional talker he's a commentator he's a stand-up he has his podcast that goes on for hours and hours thousands of hours it's an art your painter your a MMA artist in my world I'm also an MMA artist mix media artist right that's the bisexual of painting like you use everything everything anything goes so I go this guy is so f****** good at it cuz I got off the phone with you and I'm like he's so good at talking for a few hours which is against everything everything Lexile kids they have no attention span these days like 10 seconds 15 seconds on Tik tok's or Instagram hears this guy's talking to post Malone for 4 hours and and making it seem to seamless and effortless and that's because you're a master at it and I go I'm my confidence level as far as this art form is low I don't talk to people anymore I'm going to talk to my friend but I don't as storytelling or entertainment my memory is shot to s*** I can I watch three seasons of Ozark and I can't even tell you anyone's name I go there's Jason Bateman and there's the kid and the kid with the Drone and I don't know the wife I don't know anyone's names I can't recall anything and you have all these scientists that are brilliant you have Comedians and it was like dealing with it I'm like soft-serve I'm like comparing yourself to the other people while I got to let that go right now that's true your abstract way of thinking like the way you are as a person are you at you're so freely yourself that's what allows you to create such amazing art like you just your free some people can't be themselves and not good at it you're really good at being David choe thank you what taking Compliments by the way it's uncomfortable for everybody I think unless you're a real creep that you did a great right now so I wake up every morning racked with anxiety and nerves and it starts immediately your piece of s*** you're no good. I'm like you this and that and then like what did I say when you showed me my from 2018 immediately have to self defense not that good I could do a better one so I talk to my therapist about I say I don't have a self I don't have a high self opinion of myself and they go well an average human living in society today from morning till night will say thousands of horrible things about themselves like thousands like not good enough but I'm ugly listen that just and for you to say just a few nice things I'm like one of those some f****** Stuart Smalley s*** like and I'm getting out to go see you did it again you just went right into it like why can't you say you're a good painter you know you're good painter why can't you say your and so they go give me five right now in 5165 f****** things about yourself that I couldn't give him one and they're like. I think so I think it's to go into that kind of self-hatred is I could sit here and say it's a Korean thing ka-rage but it's right I am enough mirror so you see it every morning and I go I'm not doing that they got your penis you're here just do it alright fine I'll do it I go and I write I am I misspelling Enuff I am enough and then I go next week and they go so how's it going you don't brush your teeth you again I'm enough but I can't see it what kind of deodorant to use the clear invisible one okay and I and I said I can do it but I don't believe it cuz I can sit here and tell you the amount of times in my life that I wasn't enough like I can sit here and go through with many many stories of women dumping me for richer better-looking more famous better this better that I can tell you of jobs I didn't get so I'm not enough and I'm not you know so and it's the struggle it's this Burning f****** like the Michael Jordan s*** like I got a f****** I'm not I'm not at war or not you can't f****** cancel me I've already cancelled myself how are you going to cancel someone who's already canceled it there's nothing you're going to say there's nothing you're going to f****** do that's going to outweigh anything I've already said to myself that guy sucks he's ugly he's fat is full of s*** that I already said that you know so fit absolutely but you know if there's been that there's been that debate forever how do you create great are I'm talking about good art and but like the Transcendence art the art that like you remember at your it'll live on for generations and Van Gogh and all the comedians for me when I look art that I enjoy the comedy that I like the music that I like you must f****** suffer you must suffer you have to suffer Comfort is the is the killer of creativity as ways to say and you know and you know I'm saying it now but like I'd be like in a room like a ranting this you keep sharp you keep sharp by not being comfortable in other ways so I sit there and I'm going off on this random like in a f****** Echo chamber like how long you been telling the story for my whole life I've believed it's not a debate for me do you know great artists that are comfortable in their happy in there like they have loving families and then there is always something there's always some bright I think you can have a balance but you have to have this thing right wait for me I go there has to be that struggling to go but what if you take it away like what if you chose happiness over great art what if you chose and they call Dave for someone who's rebelled and like made your own rules and done everything your own way it's so weird that you just kind of accepted Lego can like what you just said Can great Transcendent Next Level art be created without that thing without that edge without with you pursuing joy and peace and love in your life and I go you know what never tried it I never tried it and why haven't you tried it what you just say I don't know fep sh fear Eagle Pride shame humiliation that's why you never tried it all right I don't know s e p s h e r Eagle Pride shame humiliation that's why you never tried it all right I'll try it and today I'm the happiest I've ever been

like it you is you might find this hard to believe but I never talked growing up I was a kid in the corner and like girls would form groups and talk about which guy they want to f*** and I wouldn't even be there like date Dave sitting right there and then he's not even on the roster and like so I I go wait is this racist yeah but what has it how can I turn this around what it did for me the Asian superpower is not seeing and you're not heard and we're seeing as non-threatening I can go anywhere I can go anywhere and people open up to me I've been to the Congo I've been to third world countries I've been to every f****** state in in America I might be the most American person like I've been to every f****** State I've hitched hike from the time I was fifteen to every f****** state every country and I've talked and and because with a black eye be able to do that with a able to do that when people see all that guy's Chinese he's like Jackie Chan or he's whatever they think they don't think that I'm going to do anything or say anything or I'm going to you know pose any threat so they just open up and they say the most I don't know like when I started hitchhiking people said no one's going to pick you up right like 60 seventies everyone gets stuck then something weird happened in the 80s were like you're going to get raped kidnapped murdered you know but I go I don't think so I think if I put come out and ask for help someone going to give it to me and with that I got to see the world for free I got to go everywhere and much like what happened was I would sit shotgun and I'm getting these free rides and two things will happen either the driver has a long drive and they want someone to talk to or they want me to talk to them and something would happen in like I'm in the car right now with a complete stranger Anything could happen in the first hour is always so how long you been on the road when would you do you know it's all that kind of stuff something switches when they know the rides about the like I'm about to get out or whatever I'm never going to see this guy again I'm never going to see this guy again so now we've been talking about News sports and weather for an hour last 10 minutes I f*** my sister when I was twelve everything comes out so I've heard think about how many rides I preheat how old was he drugs incest you know why I killed somebody like murder murder confessions I've heard the most him today that he was thinking of raping me when I stayed at his house I was in the Deep South house in the Deep South it was like my I was trying to hitchhike from LA to to New York City I was with my friend Brian same thing was going to pick up to two f****** dudes and John Wayne picks us up Cowboy guy and what are you ten gallon hat you know shrimp po'boys and you know he's just he works on a offshore offshore oil rig and it's a two weeks on two weeks off and it says two weeks off right now so he's like where you guys heading where like to get to New York New York want to go there for a bunch of queers out there to check it out you guys won't stay at my house tonight like this guy looks like grandpa just cowboy boots cowboy hat just big gut like he's a dude young I'm 17 or 18 at this time we get to his house in Tiny Town in Louisiana Deep South don't like this house Die Hard movie collection Rambo movie collection shotguns and Lube just just just a dude just a man's man and he has his side in his part-time anesthesiologist that part-time anesthesia hard time and then part-time offshore oil rig and I'm you know this is summertime Deep South covered with grease and mosquitoes living outside on the road hitchhiking he's like you guys want take a shower like f*** yeah I'm the first one in the shower and and then I come out I got the towel wrapped on he's like he made us like a frozen pizza or something and is a protest on the television Sanford 1993 or 94 there's a protest of something with gay people in in San Francisco and there are protesting and he's watching it out there protesting and I'm like you know it's one thing to be gay and then it's one thing to be picked up by like a you know a gay guy with the cowboy hat takes to his house so here's the thing I don't want to discourage people from hitchhiking this is one weird incident that happened in like 15 years of hitchhiking so he's like what we do you do I do a little powwow on the corner he's like he's old we can take him if he tries anything we're tired we were f****** so tired we like he's he looks like he was like falling asleep on his on his couch and he goes to sleep soon let's just stay the night it's f****** air condition in here and then we'll leave first thing in the morning before he wakes up I don't give a f*** it was just do it in we take the couch and I go with sleep in a formation and let's take turns you we should have just left you stay up for an hour and then wake me up I'll stay up for an hour and I believe crack of dawn you know I had a pocket knife so I slept like this it took the knife and I and I stayed up for the first hour and I see that his him walking around his room the lights are on this guy is not going to sleep midnight 1 in the morning you still act like what the fuc why won't this guy go to sleep with his mask song so I know it's Brian igoe hey your turn gripping a knife and then sometime around 5:30 in the morning or something at my eyes are closed but you know when you feel someone so he comes out of his room and he's standing there and I can see and then when I grip the knife and I go this is it this is it it's going to happen right now and he just leaves he goes out the door and I go off like that I wake up right now what carrier is it what was going on she just left me to take a shower then or something like that he's not going to you guys leaving without saying bye I just went to the market to get some extra and breakfast and like so I'm like I have the knife in my hand the whole time I got like it's that that thing where I am a people pleaser you know like I'll even put my own life at wristed like this guy went to the store and the guy starts talking about his wife and how he works on his offshore oil rig with like a younger dude it's just two guys running this whole oil rig and the other guy just talks about how much you hate gay people the whole time not knowing that this guy is and and then he just like like like all the other times I've been picked up start opening up about how he was married he has a bunch of children and they figured out he was gay and then he was like I could see if he knows we're on our way out here you boys look so cute on the side of the road let their last night and is like I also like I'm so lonely I don't get to you know you don't know what it's like to be a queer guy and in the Deep South and man when I came out this morning and I saw you guys sleeping together you guys on the couch you look so beautiful and perfect and I'm like oh my f****** god dude and then he says I thought about just if you guys wouldn't mind if I just touched you a little bit and I'm like what the fuc and you know once again black like he was like in a black neighborhood in like the houses are on stilts because of the swampland whatever and I don't know if he's done this before but as we ran out like I like the kids laughing it like Tom did try to do it again or and I'm like oh f*** like this isn't the first time I've liked looked all over the world but a lot of times people will do this or go back to where you come from cuz they're like this I can do anything and this is not the way the world works you know like someone was explained to me the other day that no one ever wins a war Angela What you talkin about we come in we bulshit up and then we take the and psyche if you look at Germany and Japan right to countries that are very small you look at a globe and you look at how small they are these are two countries that are very tiny that have tried to dominate every country around them and Japan is start you know Germany starts every World War right and so you like all but we won those worse but we drive their cars now we drive Lexus we drive the one Indian and then you think of the soldiers that come home the PTSD the drug addiction the homelessness it's like look at our country now it's like dude did we win like you one like on the charts you look at the numbers we took this town we did this we did that and f*** with people when you hurt someone it stays with them forever like it stays with them for a long time unless you have tools and different things to like work through those things which I have been working on a lot but yeah beat being a f*** that's a little racist that no one really thinks of me as a threat how can I turn that into an advantage I'm going to travel the entire world rules and different things to like work through those things which I have been working on a lot but yeah beat being a f*** that's so two races that no one really thinks of me as a threat how can I turn that into an advantage I'm going to travel the entire world

brought this up early and I wanted to ask you now like you were talking about like physical stuff like you get angry and get anxiety because like you don't you let yourself get overweight like how much does that f*** with you and how much would you give to not have that anymore but isn't that wouldn't mean if this one major thing that keeps f****** with you over and over again that you can fix I have that's a fixed one. You can fix that I have a disease of more like I was saying that I have a 5 of the a Chasm of black hole that it doesn't matter how many women I have sex with how many p*** have jerked off to how much money I've gambled and lost in one small fortunes huge fortunes I have had an eating disorder which is like I thought that was a girl thing that's what I thought I got to when I went to rehab for gambling addiction this is the first rehab Atlanta into every f****** rehab mental health Wellness Center in America now I said hey do you guys deal with process addiction assure come over and when I went there there was only methods there they didn't even know they just wanted my money I just come over here and I've learned there like serious gambling addiction like one out of four killed themselves and yeah it's it's it's the reason why there's no balconies in Las Vegas the only place that has is the cosmo I think and they had like two suicides the first Monday open I think cuz it so I am like I have things that when I talk about it funny can't stop jerking off is all I can't stop working just f****** with me working for advice and I got my podcast I got this i got this next project and when I meet when I watch the Jordan documentary and I meet famous people that have succeeded at the highest levels I go how long were you happy for maybe a day maybe 24 hours and then what happens the next day back to the Grind it's not enough got the gold medal back to the Grind back to the grind and I go it's it's never going to be enough I'll never have enough women money success it's this and I go have so many friends who've killed I have so many like Bourdain asked me for help he asked me for help looks like yes what do you said he said I'm f****** miserable I'm miserable do you how do you deal with this and I was like I've been waiting for this f****** phone called thank you how recent or how close to when he died was a it was within the year it was in like right but so he said his miserable and then what would you describe it he said you're successful I'm successful do you find yourself suffering and I absolutely please in call them and this is what I mean when I say asking for help in receiving for help that was a f****** you know people that know Bourdain I know his friends I know his manager you won't find a f****** person that will say a bad thing about him that guy is a f****** he's so awesome he's always looking out for you he'll show up for you and whatever you need he'll take care of you is an amazing guy very very interesting sound like you're f****** a****** dude you're an a****** you murdered yourself you murdered yourself you killed someone that person having to be you but you couldn't even show up for yourself I'm sorry I'm getting real from I get it you love the guy I love them to get some I've known many people that have killed themselves now it's a very sad thing that would that you can't you can never that that sadness is always going to be a part of you you're always going to think maybe I could have gotten to him maybe I could talk to him maybe if I was there but that was at least he did it we reached out he's like I relate to you Dave I connect with you so what did you end up doing I talked to him I said hey man he was all the things I've done I'm in a really good place now I can help you I can I can refer you to places I got you and it was almost like caring for me thank you like he was he was severe codependent like he was a people-pleaser right he's like I'm like he never said no cuz I'm going to f****** help everybody except for myself it's okay so and I've done this to before like I kind of half-ass ask people for help and resources and that's enough just to know that you cared and that I know that there's places I can go to that's enough I don't have to actually. My life and change until you know so that's what I mean Wednesday we don't as a culture I don't have to actually. My life and change until you know so that's what I mean Wednesday we don't as a culture of people teaching how to ask for help and then receive help

and that way you can't do anything I mean LA's the one place in the whole country where you can't open a beauty salon you can't always hairdressers and barber shops are fuct right and they've been closed for six months you that Nancy Pelosi s*** did you see that turn around got a blowout when no one else could even go to the beauty salon they caught her on security camera they uploaded and you know what she said it's a setup she she said it was a setup like they set her up like you know the f*** I don't even have any hair and I know you can't go to a beauty salon you don't know the rules course you know the rules it's so slippery that lady handed Trump a bad gift basket of deplorables yeah I thought you're supposed to be smart she is a politician she is greasy they just been doing it long enough so they know the the moves to do in the right steps and I like they're all gross and they they they feed off of the fact that they have control they feed off of the fact they have power over other people they have more power than anyone else and that's one of the reasons why she would do some you told me she can't get somebody to come to her house and wear a mask and give her a blowout she's worth a hundred million dollars of course she can do that right but she's like me I'm going to White gradient hair Chicago Chicago these people needs peaceful protest and everything's fine but then they tried protesting on her block she set up f****** armguards she said it made a mandate you can't she just said you can't protest on her street right I have a right to protect my own safety like this that's what everybody's trying to do when someone gets into a position of powers an intoxicating to tell people you can't work shut it down shut it down it's intoxicating and once you have some power boys very difficult to give that power up I anticipate that even if they figure out a real cure for Coronavirus I anticipate lockdowns now for flu I think there's going to be locked down for all sorts of diseases that kill a certain amount of people you could you could you might be my might be wrong but you could it happened you can see it happening because they set a precedent for them having the ability to dictate whether or not people work whether or not people are allowed to move freely and do whatever they want cuz that's what happens when you have it and but I don't think you know I think we find a other we find a vaccine we move on and episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

is what's your beautiful man you're you're in the universe I'm in the universe in the universe Ben Shapiro's in the universe people are we had we're out of control we don't know what the f*** to do when they're going to try and control all of us one way or the other but the internet don't need any of that except Mastodon you got your own network you don't social you don't know for sure but there's a lot of people that had prominent voices that are silenced but they're not very prominent in a circle it got bigger once I visited you and I hope that yours got bigger as well and that you can be completely in the network starts to grow it's a whole new way of communicating forever from some social media platforms that might not some other ones that's my point yeah but in this environment should we take into account look if you were going to ban someone that likes a rational expectation that a person should be go to say your beliefs are not in the line but there's they're going to kick you off as business that they own as long as the bit like but blank is to be YouTube 31 million subscribers and how many hours rules on whether or not you can ban someone I so don't give a flying f*** about what Facebook or YouTube or Google do it's so unimportant in the vast scale of what we can do this and that and I agree but in the individual the person who has YouTube channel who is earned this position and got up and got screwed move your in couple of things I believe on the commercial platforms that were talking about in this case the problem is the business model advertisers don't like controversy advertising has gone down drastically since the word coronavirus or covid-19 was blocked because they didn't want controversy said that's the reason why these networks that I don't think they yes there's people who band conservative specifically but that's because of the elite messaging system the mainstream also the pharmaceutical Industries the lot of Finance is this message so that's what advertisers want look at the p****'s at the NBA are in Nike and how they kowtowed everybody yes I said it look at how they kowtow and what they will and will not allow so that's all money bass very capitalistic by the way that's totally cool but now we go to the way you and I were raised a dude what is 50 + 52 5356 tomorrow basically halfway dead Target 98 yeah mostly fun and like anybody that does while s*** you can get lost in the woods and if you get lost in the woods of race or or or or whether or not people should be able able to able to do drugs or whether or not people should get paid a minimum wage has a livable wage you get lost in the woods and any ideology it becomes a problem and back for whatever reason when when someone shifts one way or another and we can flick the door those ideas we never give Buddy any room for for just being a person most of time I've been around that guy he's a nice guy to the basics of how I was two things I was taught growing up sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me secondary I will do so we had that and then the I don't like what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it these are the core values that I was raised with that is our constitutional deal go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

is it possible that we were in this weird state with people because we've decided that we are we're losing power and other aspects of our life so we're getting more more determined to take it back and other places because the fact that so many people have been denied the ability to make a living and then it's kind of crazy me I don't know what to think about it but it seems to me if I'm allowed to go to certain essential businesses with no one's dying I mean if I'm going to the supermarket and everyone's wearing a mask everybody seems okay right and scientists think seem to think they're okay like a what point in time do we allow that for everywhere and it would point in time do we allow people to take chances we allow people to flip dirt bikes we allow people to f****** jump out of helicopters we we allow people do all kinds of crazy s*** we allow people to wingsuit why why don't we allow people to not wear them why do we allow people to open up their business why don't we allow people to do whatever they wanted to do do is it the really the right end in the ideas while you have to protect us the other people I agree you do have to protect the other people who want to think it's going to make the other people more invulnerable is a collapse the economy and we're not saying that for some reason there's this weird thing we're politicians want you to love them and they wanted to love them so if you are leaning towards defunding the beliefs and and making sure that all the socialism ideas get accepted into major universities and it gets taught in the curriculum and grade school if you drone on and off in the person who's running for mayor knows the only way that they can win is to embrace your ideas they're going to f****** do it dirty system doesn't make any sense and you should be able to vote from your phone right but but you can't it's all Voodoo well first of all every country gets the government she deserves the quest the question is not why do we allow people to tell us what to do it is why are we allowing them to actually tell us what the f****** do who is playing Minecraft the Carmine crash and overdose it's another thing some of the f*** without a mask might kill you b**** that's some real f****** fear and that's not to be taken lightly that is not to be too and they have they have f***** with us over this I don't care whether it's true or not a what's true or not the Cavalier nature of this shutdown and fear and colors and stages and numbers and charts and connecting it to the stock market I don't like that about President Trump at all but see he looks at what he calls the economy I don't know if he's behind this digital or not but I think we're all going to be taken care of the 10 million are going to be on a universal basic income and that's going to happen I'm not worried about that but what are we left with and just where we go from there is going to be the question because what is it what is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's slogan do you know what their slogan is brain damage build back better so that's pretty that's pretty clever okay it's so clever that the same slogan is used by the United Nations the the green New Deal organization 36350. Org Boris Johnson is using it as his campaign Francois using it as his campaign Justin Trudeau build back better this is a globalist plan build back better going to shut down all coal and and gas and fracking and we're going as much as possible to transition to solar and wind and good paying green new job or not right now I don't think so but for sure I know that Bill Gates who's a big part of this green New Deal that he's investing in nuclear plants because when the sun don't shine in the wind don't blow you need some power and it's going to come from his nuclear plants does Bill Gates have any ambition left maybe he's being blackmailed what do you think he knows Sam's got a picture of him with a tank top on doing doing the f****** most muscular and you can't this is another thing man this whole Epstein business this is gotten Millennials but that Bill Gates meets with Jeffrey Epstein many times despite his Paso this is gotten everyone nuts to the kids are going like you seem to be one of those guys really into conspiracies know when was Bill Clinton 26 times episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify photos of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

those are my routes from Ireland Scotland Germany jacket to say so what if we're very sensitive I think the root of most of this is coming from the racial issue black white and if we need to we need to Define some terms and I think it's very helpful instead of saying African American black American black Negro whatever we've had in the past I prefer a Doss which is a lot of people understand this now which is American Dad ending of slavery that that makes very clear who you're talking about so you can say black but Kamala Harris not black black yes black in color but not American just ended slavery before he became calling United States of America is have a white man or black man sit down at the table and work the f****** s*** out that's what he said I've been doing that for a year podcast but I've been talking to him and we were talking for an hour once a week I said f*** it this is a podcast and I have gotten education in Hindi cam m o e f a c t z Moe facts about the 45th president 45 Savage that's President Trump somehow that I'm younger than you but all the new I got lucky this time I got f****** lucky anyway our problem when when you have a Doss American descendants of slavery which mower when the black and brown Community f***** because it's not just the black deserve to be recognized as such this is why they've always been LED down the path of voting Democrat and now there's all the s*** isn't play that's why black white is always played on his cuz that's our weak spot that's our Achilles heel embarrassed about it yeah I agree with you f*** yeah America I love my country I love our country but we have some f***** up s*** that instead of dealing with it we're letting other people hijack us over it that's what's going on here and it's not racist we suffer from its nepotism nepotism and I'll explain what if it truly was and I can tell you racist Emma Grace is absolutely existed in America and it went all the way up into the 70s with no man about the house rule when they came up from the south and went into the projects created by I guess FDR and create their own food now they're coming here to work the project would create and Welfare but you could not have a man house and its way into the seventies open trolls making sure that there was no family with children and a father now we have 75% of all children America without a father in the household you and I we got parent privileged White Privilege parent privilege a man my bad was it didn't work out that great with us but he did put some s*** into me and I grew out and he was around and he there was some that influence was there that's our problem black lives matter name me one male leader of black lives matter know it's all women and I have no problem with it but I do question what's going on here I can't argue with you because I don't know who the leaders are trees colors is a number of women who and they all come from old radical kind of 6 you don't want to come and overthrow America's been going on for a long time we try to export democracy they tried to bring socialism in Das clear we do it by blowing your country up and rebuilding it they do it otherwise they came in they wanted to propagate this message and no white people came but the poor black people came and so they became very associated with Marxism and leftist ideas and they were basically taken through into what is today is that I get the Democratic Party that's not working anymore because this just strife and there's no real solutions and even the first African American president not a Doss didn't really deliver for them so this is this election this time right now it's f****** if they're f****** with us because of this one thing for their own power left and right is it a is it a joint I smoked early it's very good very good stuff congratulations episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st to go to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

send me this text message he was dude check dish it out and it's you train with high fail Cordero and I remember looking at going oshit what happened what happened to the last time you were in here you were talking about you didn't want to workout go the right perspective and she said well why don't you just get on the treadmill for 15 minutes a day 15 minutes away from 15 minutes a day to 2 hours a day 15 minute route new in 2 hours a day and I just started losing weight and then I'm somebody come and brother-in-law said he might be the one but somebody fit would you fight this guy for like 40 minutes 30 million bucks Bob is big and strong as the whole one minute how would they like me to fight them can I fight them in the market with Queen Babe Ruth and if it will minute Mike he actually I think I feel yet I said I'll fight them right and. Was the first one that was brought up from him to somebody else and never gotten in the maiden this guy and then somehow know some other fight Advantage than one from who else was another heavyweight champ we just a bunch of guys out there and fight and next thing you know it came down the road I don't know what the hell's going on you you would probably know because if you getting in shape and getting condition to two different animals they don't even work out you can't do that on the map and you can't keep it for very long no it is just people need to understand that right emotional state to prepare for that is normal get ready to work out s*** that's when I saw that video is like that video that's now but I'm told me before that 32nd the first time I ever did it I had a quarter what speed should you cover you can walk outside so when you started training again did you start doing it slowly after that and then I started stuff stem cell research therapy and some other interesting stuff that I just don't know and it's just beautiful stuff like what kind of stuff I don't know the hyperbaric chamber than just everything everything to help you recover it's really interesting it is you look fit and that's awesome and I'm starting to feel fit that's what's inches them so I know what they do is do you think you in shape and then you start having like I'm Raphael start throwing punches at me that's like you're fighting I can't punch back when I Got a Boy and then two rounds different types of operation and how much time has gone since you first started exercising like when did it when did it start so here we always like August 23rd or something like that 22nd when did when did it start and had to say something like that so and now here you are 5 months later 4 months later how how far away do you think you are to being in like fighting shape oh when the time comes by November 28th soon it's going to be me and everyone else that's involved Eros anyone Innovation that we go to start up the Legends only league and that's going to be really breathtaking specially starting off with me and Roy yeah and I'm looking forward to that everybody who was who believe the someone they are going to come back and all feels and tell me something that me and intervention created together and I think this is going to be pretty awesome so Legends only legal be like all sports baseball bat yeah I mean minute piece Minnewaska for Metta World Peace like seeing you hit the bag again and seeing you hit the pads and get excited about it is very very interesting to me because I knew that you had that thing in your head where you didn't want to ignite your ego and then you had this quote that the gods of War reignited your ego excuse I can use a really great excuse that I can use episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify

are you saying that to about training that you would get up in the morning and trains because you wanted an edge you want to know that you were training while they were asleep you you're just enforcing your mindset to allow those delusions to be the reality of your assessment know when you're doing this and you getting up in the morning and running is this like do you feel like you felt in the old days do um and I don't mean physically I mean the mine like you preparing for war again do you desist is this like reignite those old thoughts the way you were when you were the champ the way you were when you're on your way the title like this is a this is a whole new way of my life and I was really interesting that sometimes. If you're not real but sometimes I struggle with the fact that was a possibility I can really hurt somebody like you don't want to hurt them what do you mean by struggle struggle with a possibility that you can hurt them that is sometimes it's orgasmic sometimes yeah like some fights like particular like Tyrell Biggs or someone that you had problems with someone that you you had animosity towards so we can finally get your hands on them what does it means when fighting get you erect what does that mean the question means you getting excited yeah so that that's going through your mind right well that's how I get when I was a kid and I ain't you. Sometimes I get the twinkle the twinkle yeah well that's what I'm saying is like you reached a state as a human being as a champion as a ferocious fighter you reach the state of availability and of accomplishment that very few humans will ever ever touch and feel that's why I'm asking you when you're running when you're hitting the bag when that hearts beating again and that you know who you are you're Mike motherfuking Tyson you're still Mike Tyson have got to be burning inside you again it's got to be pretty wild it's why I believe is is rightfully so to be that way and I used to know how to I don't think I am asked if I wanted to deal with it I don't let it overwhelm me. Get your orgasmic so strange things well that's just what I wanted to find out for you really bright and I thought you was being very serious no one will understand that other than you like that's your mindset like knowing what I think that like all the things were talking about before the way you drive yourself will you push yourself the way you put yourself in that frame of mind no one can understand the other than you so no one can understand you get an erection something about her diesel more than you will have to be somewhere fear-based maybe or maybe just maybe not fear-based but maybe embracing the fact that you're going to go into this with everything that you have the chaos of it all and and the ultimate goal is to hurt somebody the ultimate goal is to be extremely successful the way you can be extremely successful that thing you do great is to crush people 2in to have that Encompass everything this fighting is only thing I don't ask Allah for is still acting for help for that you don't ask him for help her fight her cuz you think you got it no I just don't think I could you should still wanted to be involved with that kind of money so think of that time will this is what's so interesting to me about you fighting again because of the conversation that we had the last time you were here that you didn't want to reignite Your Ego clearly your egos blazing right now I mean you're ready to go when maybe because I'm an addict a 4matic and I'm on a narcotic bring the cameras on me yeah the big narcotic and maybe that has something to do it as well but I like to think it's under control until the night of the event. Yeah so it's the addiction will get purged with the with the performance yeah that's why I was doing if you don't mind me the book that talks to you where they caught audiobook and it was called the gene key okay that we are who we are and that perspective that most of the people like you and myself and people people in general who is not at that level even anyone to have a creative mind is victimized to depression in the reason is because I'm when that created when that moment that whatever it is that causes that creativity is not fit the proper information that is successful in that it is accepted and whatever space in the brain and the mind that once it wants to be accepted it is not accepted it crumbles does that make sense episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all around Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

how to be really odd to be working that much and be a young girl the balance at train me to have it something that I don't think you are going to get taught any other way besides jumping in the deep end of the pool and hoping you know how to swim that's the only way I there was no way I could have prepared for the amount of balance I would have to learn to kind of cheater because you know at one point again it it went from there was school then it went from how many how much we can actually smoke and still play a teenage superstar in the Disney Channel and then like and then like you know once you have your drink you end up smoking and I kind of I have a I've become the face of a lot of things kind of a against my will I guess but my opinions when you're someone in my position your opinion becomes your identity and it also becomes kind of almost like you kind of become just like preacher are you become this you know they don't really let you just always have your own opinion so I've decided to start telling people I live my own life style alcohol was never my Prof there was other things that I end up you know I like to go up so I now just avoid really drinking cuz I I like to wake up at 110% but it's never really been my problem and I could see myself having a drink of Celebration the future but I guess so f****** hungover now that I'm like why would I celebrate with like just feeling like a volcanoes erupted in my brain you know so it's really just a personal preference but it's definitely not anything that I promote in I think it's a lifestyle everyone should be everyone should experiment it's a good time and you learn a lot of things about yourself and the people around you but now I'm watching out of younger siblings and they're going through that and I don't know how my mom did it with me cuz it's scary going to get it from other kids if you learning about sex from another fourteen-year-old will you learn about Coke from a fourteen-year-old gas or we try to pretend that you know they live in a movie that I really have time to do my own children's book series of realist children stories because I don't like the idea that we teach them that this is sunshine world and everyone want to go to Rainbow and everyone's equal and you need to say like that's not what are you going to do about it that's what you going to do about it and I think there's a way to not terrify children of life even though I go in and out of. So I think life is really overwhelmingly terrifying and that's coming from my position and my position I told myself all the time if you're not enjoying this life honey you got to come in the next one cuz I better fucken love this life is the best one I couldn't imagine being in a different body. It's an awesome life and I also I didn't hurt myself Beyond repair in my experiences I survived and I don't even mean heart still beating survival I mean I have a lot of people that love me around I didn't kick all the people that have my best interest at heart out that's the that's where you die if you kick everyone that says hey are you okay interested heart out that's the that's where you die if you kick everyone that says hey are you okay you know out know I've course I'm okay and so now that I have people that I've had in my life I feel that I have people in my life that I've known for 15-20 years and not many people my position get to say that my parents are awesome my dad's loopy as hell but I've loved him so much

all those stories that like it's just amazing to me that the public kind of thinks that there is no gap of time that they didn't see that could possibly be what led to this like it's not wonder you were happy on the carpet in the next day you were making out with your friend and Italy what the f*** there was a lot of time in between that the you didn't see it didn't go I didn't like I didn't you know what's crazy is my dad again you know my dad's been a real figure in my life and my dad when he got his Grammy nomination he wore he went to the Grammys in a John 3:16 shirt and he didn't get the Grammy and the next day the New York Post someone put even God can't save Billy Ray Cyrus and his career and he was sitting next to Johnny Cash they were going to say something I have a Johnny Cash tattoo that was handwritten to my dad's from around that time he said what the hell just like right now cash you know he said what the hell are you doing reading that and my dad said I just never really picked up picked up the paper again but again my dad didn't buy that paper it was just kind of in-your-face and he does now now he just says well whatever will get Johnny Cash to come and sit next to me and talk to me and it's been really good to have him click on this s*** you know it it comes into my life by buy magazines damage I like to walk on the street and it says like Miley is on drugs and Pregnant and then I think one of those things are true but not the other f*** you for lying about me but that's all they have when someone's in the public eye and someone's as prominent as you are you become a way for them to access money that's all you are get it it's that unprogramming of also I think it's interesting sitting here with you is that all of this is kind of new I mean even just like the idea of podcast what I used to do when it was like promo time for Anna record okay so I'm 12 years old and I'm print and physical copies of my album so I have to write my f****** music you note 6 months before you actually so I just had all these new album for Christmas and I had to record a Christmas song Until it was the weirdest thing I've ever done in my life but when you make physical copies that's what you do and you're telling a story from always being behind especially when it comes to the media so now what I love about this what I love doing you know a show like yours is like we talked about it right now and people here right now so you're getting the real information you're not getting information from all right you know I shot a magazine cover I did an interview I was LaLa in love with my boyfriend I mean that literally happened when I did Vanity Fair I flew there like a week after I go by the time the damn thing was on the stand I was divorced is old news I was like come on you know so you really not able to tell your Story in real time and that's what I love about the new way that music is happening and streaming and I love the idea that like I threw up that Flaming Lips record I did on Soundcloud and it was like you know no one had to buy it or I sound 105 but it's very exciting because I really hated always being behind myself and I think that's what now I can use my art as my car I guess the way that I can talk to the depressant what bothers me is kind of the public you know and then I got in this have it where when people would meet me I guess I didn't get to have it just became a thing that happened constantly was I meet someone and they go and you're not as crazy as a thank-you I don't know what you thought I'd be doing right now if you thought I'd be in like you know space buns dropping acid or something but people say that to me all the time thought I would be a weird thing to say to someone yeah but the Public Image like what they sold of you you know who you are Hannah Montana and then all sudden you this very sexual singer you doing all this crazy stuff and you're on television shaking your ass and everybody seeing that and how Miley Cyrus is out of control now she's worked so then that becomes the narrative Vanity Fair the write the article you're deeply in love by the time it comes out your Eddie divorce I've had two now I don't read those types of things but I've had to unlearn that they're not true cuz sometimes I might think I write things down when I want something to get put into my head even if I'm going to have a hard conversation with somebody you say I kind of write a little mini script for myself so I kind of know where I I don't like going into something with no Direction Where do I want this to go what are my goals what do I want that's what it's like I know that I have that as an artist I want to have a long career do the things to be able to have that longevity and so I would write down you know a kind of a kind of an idea of where I'd want conversations to go even with the people in my life and what do I want out of them and I had to stop going hey just cuz they wrote that down it's true because something about writing it down gives a lot of power I don't like to write down things that I don't mean that's why I don't write songs that I hate because once you write it down there like a live you know things that other people wrote about you made you think that those things were real so f*** with your own personal narrative yes trying to prove something that I didn't need to prove like all of a sudden I be trying to prove that I'm not crazy when I knew I wasn't crazy and yeah I just think also mean we're talkin about realistic children's books I think the stigma that kind of surrounds you know you throwing up rebelling and then craziness and what's the line between Aden and mental illness and you know I do have some kind of genetic family history of alcohol I mean that totally gets a race when your celebrities like Hollywood did this to you it's like no dude my great-grandma was an alcoholic do you know my granddad was an alcoholic my grandma's an alcoholic you know so I obviously had it wasn't Hollywood you know it's genetic I I understand myself from a human there's nothing about me that thinks I am superhuman think that I think I would I would take that as something that that makes me unique because I don't think that I'm really I know that there's something special about me and my life but I don't feel that on this level of being a human that I'm different and so I know what it takes to keep this motor going into end-to-end I also know when to take time as long as you have doubt do you want to be I want to be better you want to figure it all out you want to work it out through and you have his weird guilt from growing up in this weird way to be possible that you can find people that don't get weird around you yeah you could find them but they have to be strong people who got that you have to have their own personal sovereignty add someone recently tried to tell me that everyone in my life is afraid of me and that like that really makes me upset just because I think everyone in my life that I have in my clothes in her Circle really loves me and so to say that every one of my life acts out of fear of me my mom I'm almost reckon 30 she will whip my ass it's like my mom watch a hit me awful thing you're you mean this there's no getting away from who you are you got to kind except your Miley Cyrus yeah yeah they're the best indicators that you're trying to do better Hard Road there are other f****** mine but I didn't get as much later in life and it was a slow drip at the end of my thirties in my forties I think how severe it was way off here blue power corrupts absolutely so a common expression right now I'm trying to have a good relationship with the power and feel feel a healthy dynamic world and I think I could probably also Mark that up to animals and how much I love them and I think that's what led to my veganism for a time is like the fact that tonight I have to put powder on my dog's ass that makes me happy seals and someway how disgusting it's very very out there and in your face and I think it's more of like a concealer but I'm really happy that Kate Moss Moss make me put baby powder on her ass just use that as a teaser that. Makes me happy and like my one of my dog's he's obsessive drinking out of the pool and so he likes throws up all the time and it's disgusting and it all in the same always makes me happy and the one thing that I like about my dogs that they don't know who I am coming to know that they got a good living situation they're probably wonder what she does for a living but also but yeah my dogs don't know why I'm so I'd like that and the cat scratch to s*** out of me all the time in the pigs are horrible they bite my ankles I love it about him episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

I've been thinking about this a lot lately and here's an issue I am Progressive on just about every issue across-the-board gay rights civil rights women's rights whatever woman's right to choose from fill-in-the-blank Pro Medicaid Pro Universal basic income Pros so many things but there's a thing that happens in large cities or large cities are always blue and I'm trying to figure this out cuz like New York Zoe and I used to think it's they're educated you know and educated people are more likely to be compassionate and compassionate people more likely to be Democrats but there's a balance that has to be achieved and when the s*** hits the fan you need Law and Order and I think that some people who are Democrats or Progressive people they don't understand that aspect of human nature or they want to deny that aspect of human nature look when the mayor of Seattle was dealing with that whole six area lockdown little small little country that they put up barriers and Sheridan in the like literally were had armed guards there that was it called again Chop Chop or Katherine the mayor said maybe this is our Summer of Love other people's businesses with Force like just because they think the way you think or they subscribe to Liberal ideas like you like you're a little too so these at this like your gang of thugs take over other people's businesses do we have to be able to call out everybody and just because somebody is on your side you can't let him take over city blocks and just Institute their own government and then say it's the summer of love this is crazy talk and this is how this is get to get cities destroyed and this is it would get the police defunded and they would get people saying crazy things like we we need to disband the release everyone from prison and no more prisons and no more laws and no more police know the way things go well if you have to be safe the only way you're safe is if you have a strong military and a strong police force and there's something about liberals you don't want to believe that they see the bad cops they see these videos and we all agree we got to get rid of bad cops that got to reform the police they have to call the cops that's crazy you just want to see the bad filming excellent interactions with friendly tops and comply people that's not what you feel not going to get a lot of it is you do download the way my mind goes is not going to be like red-state Consciousness when it comes to that s*** cuz when I saw that autonomous down pop-up I'm like let's do it baby. Americans identify with this it's George Carlin did a great job of designating if I think it's called The American Dream because you got to be asleep to believe I love that joke but I love the American dream and they're what's so beautiful about it is it's this idea of like I think together we can do something new that's going to be better than anything that happened before and from that Spirit you get all great Innovation that goes across all political ideologies right to me you know and they always call it always love they caught the American experiment f****** love that man if it's an experiment it's like what see what we can do here together and for an experiment to work we need to be able to look at what didn't work in the experiment and improve upon a that being said it's like for me I've been trying to like pull myself out of the even though I identify as a progressive I'm going to vote Democrat what I'm going to do but that being said how to pull myself out of that cuz I don't want to be cubby old man and I have a lot of friends who are like hardcore conservative and I know that there is this idea and I think a lot of the the idea gets perpetrated by people who are into tribalism Blue Rat and the blue people they propagate conceptualization of the red people which is kind of what you said there will there not compassionate f****** life they would die 4 people episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freaked that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

and I say this many times and I'll say it's more to give me that you got a friend Jones he's he's made some mistakes and some big ones but he's also actually expose some real s*** any owns up to the mistakes he's made they're not good he doesn't think they're good there's nothing about finding conspiracies everywhere that's not good for your brain I really believe this I think that if you go looking for those things and that's all you look for and you look from all time you can get real turn on real crazy and then there's also a bunch of people to try to stop you from doing that because you do expose some crazy-ass you know he was talking about Epstein a long time ago and they take all these rich politicians and and some celebrities and they bang these kids and I was like come on he was telling me this a long time ago so he's also the one who told me about the Bohemian Grove former presidents photograph of Ronald Reagan with Herbert Walker Bush and a couple of the people all standing around and it's like these that people used to hang out at this place and they would put on robes and they would worship an hour got it I will God and they would burn in effigy and they're playing it and Alex snuck in and made video footage of this s*** and then no one's denying that it's real this is really didn't happen so they're in with these bankers and former presidents and their dress like Druids and some guy brings over something that this an effigy that supposed to be a body a wrapped up Effigy it's a bunch of sticks in blunt in a blanket but it's like shaped like a body and they drop it on the fire and they're all worshiping and I will God why is that bad if you saw those if that's what your business is just finding those things that's cool man there's this great teacher who changed my life Sam Scoville and he's one of the things he taught was so beautiful he still teaches there whether they thought was figure out a way to take in all information and then filter out the s*** that's not real and you keep the real stuff and like Alex Jones song about hills yes he was Pastor size are turning frogs gay and I'm like that can't be real know there really is a pesticide that change frogs genders yes yes but some pesticide fux with frogs genders that sucks maybe doesn't I mean depends on the phone for the Frog it's it's a pesticide that has some sort of an effect and unintended effect on frogs gender dude that's another thing that people talk about pesticides that have been used and like golf courses and like this people live around those that's a chemical dump yeah golf courses hey I'm not getting sucked into that f****** black hole road and you can keep that s*** to yourself but hey I'll get sucked into another black hole infiltrator look I went to a summer camp we have bonfires we were robes I mean not like maybe what you do I just want to say hey come on invite me please I won't tell anybody anything I've heard you guys are pretty to get a bunch of Hardcore neocons together and then mix them Artisan in the hopes it like having like brushing shoulders of the artist put in some way shape or form loosen some people up a little bit and I've already have a tram that connects campsites there to other campsites mean he's getting the tram so they're hanging out with Dick Cheney listen I won't tell anybody I got a podcast I want to tell Joe let me and I'll worship moloch if it means hurting people it's like in our country we've got people who are Christian and that's beautiful thing and I do love Jesus I was reading the book of Mark today regarding the parable of the sower but that being said I don't think it's fair necessarily to tell people they can't worship an owl or burn an effigy in front of an hour and some kind of symbolic magical ritual that represents the disintegration of your negative energy or whatever it may be I really don't know but that be now is like Superstition is running rampant I'm friends with lots of witches I know a few satanists I know a few people are one of the occult and I don't know a single one of them they would tolerate child abuse I don't know a single one that wouldn't kill somebody or some of them would kill people if they thought they were hurting kids not in and make it so that nobody found the body some of the same as I know they would kill something they would kill someone probably I don't know for sure but I'm just saying like that we can't have alternate alternate Pagan religions in our country run without immediately being associated with human sacrifice or child abuse I think that goes against the American Spirit is like look if people don't want to subscribe to your particular like very popular Global religion doesn't necessarily implicate them in like something that is truly a horror which is human trafficking conceptualization these people again I don't know what's going on the f****** Bohemian Grove but from what I've heard it's basically a summer camp for billionaires where they try to get Artisan there till like loosen him up a little bit that's what I've heard I could be wrong who told you this come with me to Burning Man and you will see that oh I'm sure every 50 ft I don't think it's that big of a deal I really don't if it involves hurting kids it's a big deal and if these m************ are doing anything that involves Human Sacrifice hurting human beings not that we don't know what else happens what you're seeing is them burning sticks in front of this I will God and it's like this crazy crazy speech they're given what's going on it's really weird hate speech and now they've been letting the effigy on fire and everybody cheering it looks fine Stanley Kubrick had this quote once to Nicole Kidman wasn't working on Eyes Wide Shut TV and fine which she said about the elites that he that he had said so I can find out if I have a chance to look at my laptop but it was something about him you know what talking about the powers that run the world and that they all have something on each other and that's how they all can stay together they'll compromise each other that's what's goin bones is Bali that's it with the other stuff about 2 quote on that but when you see something like that you like maybe it's like fun that they do it that nobody knows they do it you know I'm saying it's like one of those rituals we get together you dad thinks it's hilarious and you both put your hoods on you go out there and you burn the towel or you burn the sticks in front of the owl and what's fun is that you're not supposed to be doing it and it's a secret but nothing really is happening that's also on the table episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify go to The Joe Rogan Experience are now free on Spotify that's right there free from September 1st to December 1st going to be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be freak that includes the video the video also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking Go download Spotify

there's also guys okay I shouldn't even say this but it's fine cuz it's a kid once who moved to Las Vegas when he was this is crazy story to tell damn but it's a good story details perfect person who was considered the best car cheat ever meaning the guy this is the guy that the reason that Vegas has those instead of like the dealer peeking the the down card they have to put into a machine and push a button he's the guy that the movie Casino was built around with the computer in the shoe like he was the the best card she ever but among the Egyptians he's like a phenomenon he's working on moves not to entertain anybody he's working on move so he doesn't get his hand smashed up against the wall Binion's right so he's working on mu so he's not going to get killed survival about him moved to Las Vegas and buys a craps table she puts a craps table Tim and his mom right single mother and him that they live in this small apartment very close to the man I was telling you about and this kid throws dice 15 hours a day on this craps table by the way there little bed is like under the tape you know I mean it's a small space and it's a real craps table like a nice one the only thing he does is repetitious Lee throw that and he can helicopters so you can't see them doing this if such Force going around but when they hit the wall one died won't break the number and he can throw it exactly to this part of the of the table missing this from across the table so that one day locks and every time you can guarantee that number he did that every day for almost a decade until he could throw dice better than any other human being in the world then he went and got a job at one of the casinos at X4 cart seats and worked in the craps tables it's all he did and as soon as he turned he won he went out travel the world and when's exact amount of money that he should win playing craps where you're not detected but but you can What's the sex addicts saying I mean I just think that's one that's unchecked for so many people and so acceptable and p*** addiction I mean I I can't get off without watching p*** Ogden and if I don't have corn I'm just not getting off I've never been someone who can do it manually and end with my imagination it's really problem because the poor guy watches like not good Jo Jo Jo Jo like a DM from the simple control a while back that was like if I put out a hit on the dark web for you to be getting raped and asked to pay the guys $100,000 to do it I can make that happen and you know someone would accept that and I was like jokes on you that that's my fantasy g******** in like women tied up I pay for my p*** cuz I feel so bad was happening to the women in it I hope that they are being compensated for it so I pay like 30 bucks a month for kink.com I'm watching really f*****-up stuff and I've always been to Lebanon to like being tied up in like I'm someone who doesn't feel like I deserve pleasure without like having pain like I don't ever celebrate anything I can only celebrate or like relax if I put in Seoul work that I'm just like Dad so I can it's really hard for me to like enjoy myself in life I always had that it's do I have to punish myself first and so orgasms are not something that like I feel I feel it's hard for me to give myself one and let myself have that much it's like it's too much it's like Christmas you like you to wait a year for Christmas you can't give yourself Christmas everyday so I feel I like to be tied up in like forced to have Christmas and like I that's what I that's what I tend to like it's like you have to do this and because I'm so so I don't like losing control either in the orgasm is like the most you can lose control I just feel like I don't I don't like being that out of control and I don't know what's going to happen I'm scared I'm just going to like s*** everywhere or something like that got his cooties on it it went through his arm and his even cleaned it good that it really go through in the morning honestly I'm not even a sharp puncturing a steak and it wasn't you picked the spot is a better place to go through think he would first like doubt himself it's almost like a power suggestion thing where he'd be like none of it might be fake test it out and might be fake number the Frog is there something psychological about him doing that like touch it maybe it's fake make sure it's not fake I don't know anything about magic but I would imagine anything you can do to overload the brain like if you are tracked if you're sparring with someone or fighting one of things you're doing is you're trying to overload the brain so you're moving you do things you faint you fake like you're going to punch then you kick them but you what you're doing is your f****** with their heads 20 things to think about these kind of doing that to check the car's Helene and he says things and kind of doubts himself and it asks you if you're sure there's so many techniques involving but he is a mess amazing him doing that s*** to he had so he did the Magic Castle so f****** mad at me underneath like they actually had a car like little divots in their hands and hold the coins will give it to their hands and that's how they hold the coins in your skin

so I have been resolved. Times Argus article drug ketamine and stabbed herself eat it doesn't get it over and get the worst part done pigs it's literally a nickname Blaine whenever he would have you do something he would first like doubt himself it's almost like a power of suggestion thing where he'd be like none of it might be fake test it out there's something psychological begin like if you are with someone or fighting overload their brain you do things you faint you fake like you're going to punch then you took them but you what you're doing is you're f****** with their heads you give them too many things to think about he's kind of doing that to check the car's Helene and he says things and kind of doubts himself and it asks you if you're sure there's so many techniques involving but he is a mess amazing him doing that s*** to he had so he can magic happens but I don't think that this counts as like but there was this guy that I knew that dictum coins crazyshit I don't know really is there really no way to find out how magicians do their tricks everyday the neurons I'm going to do it just it just goes and I was kind of him with his hands was watching a move the cars around like someone who plays guitar really good

my Joey Diaz impression so if today someone said we can schools can open up clubs can open up venues can open up we can go back to normal if you wear this bracelet to tells me where you are at all times where you were last night and who you hung out with this is a problem with shutting down The Tick-Tock house this goes okay you shut down a house that has 200 people what if it gets down to five what your family up what if you have 10 people in your house you can have more than 10 what if you have to work Grandma comes over can't come over or they until you can have a party and not just the city and not just to State the federal government and of course the people that were releasing the information from Wuhan that's the that's a big step cuz they're the ones who f***** it up cuz there was a lot of legit doctors and scientists that were in Wuhan. In Chinese they were trying to get the word out there was silence in the main one the first one that did it actually wind up dying from the f****** creative it's crazy telling people that can't do things count but you can protest make the rules you can't give him power to make new rules cuz everybody becomes a f****** Tyrant and then you tell me how many f****** the hospital do you have a beauty salon I never pay back are geniuses live in this house and there's no real law that says you can limit the amount of people that can go to a party where I don't think there is house is normally has a party like Dan bilzerian's played if you're in college and have too many people at your house still come and shut down right but that's the cops and that's not your house this is marshmallows are in shed every is going crazy having a party who doesn't obey and I'm doing it for press to kind of let people know what's up it's like a threat to this is the same f****** guy that offered reward for people who turn folks in testing liquid Chappelle's doing in Ohio me to do my backyard cuz this is getting crazy I might need to shut down but you going to let everybody know where you live girls have too many people but I think you should just be arrested if that's a law weird power off on louder unruly Gatherings known as The Party House ordinance hate Dan Bilzerian that ever work on you officially took place August 15th 2018 they never use it on him the organs claims to curb repeat offenders of out-of-control party the residential neighborhoods with escalating fines and do enforcement from Los Angeles Police Department I don't think that's connected the schools 2018 show me their kids and they're all the cutoff for property owners who skirt building and safety rules or city laws which Los Angeles party house or does the same law right already in violation of covid-19 Public Health orders in the city's Party House ordinance which becomes the law in 2018 that the talking about that law and it said it wasn't clear whether garcetti's announcement was related to that motion cancel ad hoc still exactly how long it's still sneaky I like that penalty Water and Power shut off permit prohibitions and having certificate of occupancy held or revert revoked for large cop close contact largely maskless gatherings in violation of City emergency orders and County Health order so the City emergency in the county health order they make an order so you can have a large Gathering and if you do going to do a new thing which is shut your water and power off when do they never do that unless you're a fugitive you have to have like a gun and pointing out the window, show our water off where we are making people use Candlelight like and did this probably you know it's it's a high likelihood that people going to die if they keep getting sick and they infect someone you know and you know it's like 0.04% of people who catch Co the. That's what the current standings are so it could lead to a death or two it is possible but I just I just don't think you should allow people to do that High likelihood the people going to die if they keep getting sick and they infect someone you know and you know it's like 0.04% of people who catch covet. That's what the current standings are so it could lead to a death or two it is possible but I just I just don't think you should allow people to do that

not better than other people because you think of certain why there's so many people there like I'm right obviously and you're wrong I was saying it's like that's not how things were canceling all the Twitter stuff they're going like down this line of which now we've given them it's better you're just giving people a transcript of like all the s*** you said over the years but it's like the expected have this perfect record like you're never and there's no room for that anymore why you spending so much time complaining about other people all day tell you why because you're not healthy but you're not doing smart things about 12 hours a day it's the vast majority of the way people are communicating and none of it majority of the way people are communicating like for a lot of The Fast and none of it

you cry over I cry for happy things I think about you know I people that I miss and you know stuff like that and I definitely cry yeah I cry a lot for like things that make me happy that's so that's you know I ain't scared of weakness I don't like weakness but I don't think crying is weakness I think we ought to not want to cry to not want to embrace the full spectrum of life you know I'm life is filled with beautiful things and amazing things and salt will fill with horrible things like they're all there and to deny that I think is to deny reality it is in that has to be delusional I'm afraid of delusional more than afraid of crying I'm not really important that you just said that you cry and you think it's important you know that it's not something that comes naturally to people but I think it's important to do from the lawyer and they were talking about the Innocence Project he works at the Innocence Project and they got this poor man who is an immigrant I believe it's from Guatemala who was unjustly accused of murder and they they got him out and you know they were just going through the whole story about the prosecutors are trying to keep him in jail news innocently they finally got him release they're talking about this thing and I just heard crying those poor guys thinking about this guy I like makes his way to America to try to do better for himself and it whines up getting caught up in this this fake murder accusation and I love it can I really put that out there I'm the one time my ex-boyfriend cried in front of me I was blowing him while he was like still like this is so hot that you are opening up and you are unloading and then I don't have to deal with these feelings on it and another way which is you being mad at me or you lick bottling up your anger out somewhere just was so erotic to me to see a guy like

like your body and your brain gets fixated on particular activities and those particular activities occupy your mind so much and it becomes a detriment to your life and it did it with video games with sex is with p*** gambling it with drugs and they used to think that they're different things these things obviously drugs have like physical consequences like heroin and a non-alcoholic alcohols when the worst to get off of this when you get off of Alcoa people were like legitimate alcoholics they can die in the cold Amy Winehouse that's the hell she died bulimia no one talks about it look it up because she was puking her brains out at the end and that can cause cardiac arrest like that and so I think I mean it could have been a mixture of both but I do think her bulimia had a huge I like regular playlist so much pain you can hear it in her voice it was such a beautiful voice voice I just think the vet gets swept under the table so much eating disorders when really that is and you know it's killing a lot of people with eating disorders two people that on the other side of that food addicts who can't stop eating and obesity makes you so much more susceptible to covet I mean can I get to watch it but this the sex addict saying I mean I just think that's one that's unchecked for so many people and so acceptable and p*** addiction I mean I I can't get off without watching p*** isn't working and are plugged in and if I don't have corn I'm just not getting off I've never been someone who can do it manually and end with my imagination it's really problem because the poor guy watches like not good Jo Jo Jo Jo like a DM from the simple control a while back that was like if I put out a hit on the dark web for you to be getting raped and asked to pay the guys $100,000 to do it I can make that happen and you know someone would accept that and I was like jokes on you that that's my fantasy really aggressive g******** and like women tied up I pay for my p*** cuz I feel so bad was happening to the women in it I hope that they are being compensated for it so I pay like 30 bucks a month for kink.com I'm watching really f*****-up stuff and I've always been to Lebanon to like being tied up in like I'm someone who doesn't feel like I deserve pleasure without like having pain like I don't ever celebrate anything I can only celebrate or like relax if I put in so much work that I'm just like Dad so I can it's really hard for me to like enjoy myself in life I always had that I have to punish myself first and so orgasms are not something that like I feel I feel it's hard for me to give myself one and let myself have that much it's like it's too much it's like Christmas you like you to wait a year for Christmas you can't give yourself Christmas everyday so I feel I like to be tied up in like forced to have Christmas and like I that's what I that's what I tend to like it's like you have to do this and because I'm so so I don't like losing control either in the orgasm is like the most you can lose control I just feel like I don't I don't like being that out of control and I don't know what's going to happen I'm scared I'm just going to like s*** everywhere or something like that sing something that you regret or like just do it I don't know having a Kramer moment when I'm still terrified of what might happen that's why I only have sex with people that I like trust so much so that if I sit on them they wouldn't I know that that guy wouldn't hate me and like wouldn't tell people oh my God yes oh it's in the drawer Force then you have you have been it's not your fault what you did or what you said or is it always like my problem is I do not like the women to be abused I don't but you can't find g******** where the woman is being treated nicely you can't find one where they're just like so much like I talked about this to my special but I am can I please get a respectful g******* p*** with listen and heed my request and Mako banking when they're just like they're proud of her for her you know tenacity and her strengths during this really arduous Journey personal journey and they're like a pig on her head they spend their face honestly Joe I'm not kidding you I watch p*** with half the screen covered up because I don't like what they do to her head but I like what they're doing to it so the rest of her cuz I just it's too they're so mean but you know choking are you like doing a fish hook I don't like any of that but I like I like the idea of g******** I like the idea of a girl being like kind of used and taken advantage of and I do feel guilty about all this because I'm a feminist obviously I love women and I want us to feel empowered and I'm so sad for these women but that's it's me off like I'm a conundrum yeah I don't want to be distant Joe gets me off and watching when I get sent to me but yeah dude I'm watching I'm watching like it just it just is a slippery slope dude it just gets you know it you go from dislikes light bondage where girls tied up in a guys maybe like doing some stuff to wear with a wand and like fingering her and choking her little bit and then it's it's just like seven guys writing pig on a girl's head and making her own oink and like spitting on her bookmark those I have I have a file I have a I have an email that I sent to myself called p*** I like and I just keep sending myself to the next anytime I come from a video I sent it to myself so I can go back and I can also see my my descendants into depravity for the year I can see where I started and where I'm at and how what I like about this is that usually the girl is I don't like to see a girl in distress I don't like the Asuna cheat ice I think that she's not having a good time I get out of it because one of these girls are having a good time they like to be pushed to the Limit one of my favorite p*** actresses and I just wanna give her a shot at because she does really work is Kristen Scott and one of her the best videos is called School of Seduction I think that's what it's called and or no what is it called its and there's like this Academy Academy that these girls go to where they learn to be s**** and there's like five days where they go to the school and they're tied up and they're just like f***** by a bunch of people and they're made it like Plank and get f***** at the same time as they're planking and it's just like they can't they just they have to do what you say when someone tells you you have to do something you have to be like I guess I have to do it it's not my fault that I'm a hore the people and their Maids it like Plank and get f***** at the same time as they're planking and it's just like they get they just they have to do what you say when someone tells you you have to do something you have to be like I guess I have to do it it's not my fault that I'm a hore and they I just like that that's what I'm into

so I'm in my f****** underwear and I'm Living On Top of the Rock in this cave and the oldest guy in the village is you know when he starts talking it's like I'm in like Lion King Arms like when I was young on all have a translator with me he's translating David to Swahili to English he's like elephants lines at the hippos like everywhere and like it was like a buffet we just wake up we could kill anything in my lifetime that has been gone it's gone it's like but there's very few animals left to hunt in the ones that are like they're endangered you can't kill them so like there is very very hard and they do you want to come with us and I'm like dude look at my body do I look up and there was a Catholic priest that set up a mission in that area and he's been I met him he's been trying to convert the hodza to Catholicism 20 years and he's like they use the The Bible Pages to smoke weed so the bow and arrow homemade homemade bow and arrow like like just they'd they take this wood and they spent all day making the arrows yep that use 32 that might be rasouli and then there's a plant that they they harvest and they they do all the stuff to it and then that's the poison that they put on the tip of the arrow and these guys yep there it is how crazy people Hunted so first the first day of the hunt I like do they teach you how to shoot a bow first bow shooting is so off and yeah so we practice had you had a shot of Boeing the pad never shot a bow in the in the in my life there's one of these one of these guys that he could shoot the arrow through the zoo oh my God they're f****** ripped dude my God that guy is Jack the Ripper very strong but the kids know how to hunt the Myspace I have that PB cut my face yeah I asked them to cuz I like paint for real. you have to be fit it's it's unbelievable that crazy went to live look at that I mean walking these m************ are so in tune with nature that they do make a bird sound and they talking to the bird and the bird will show you where the honey is like and then there's a pack of 50 dogs following us and the dogs aren't pets there hunting tools right so the dogs are the first line of defense they've sniffed it out and I'm like this is this is mental right in psycho like I'm on a f****** against an experience right now never did I thought I would just wait why why am I going home so if I walk with one of the kids who Pune clicking language I try to be careful right if you're making up a language like you might accidentally hit on some real s*** there I tried I tried just say one or two forbidden words so if I walk with one of the kids and it's like him giving me a tour of his house like Ball come to Joe's Warehouse in he's showing me he's like thanks climbing a tree with just grabbed the snake and he takes out a slingshot the rock the pebble this Big Bam hits a f****** bush baby out of the tree breaks his leg breaks his legs puts his ears like a snack for later everything is talking there it's like it looks like they're just goofing off and playing but there they have like must they have some what-do-you-call-it microbes in gut biome kind of things in their stomach that no one else on the plane so the translators explain to me Canadian site like scientist come and literally steal their s*** they find them in the Steeler s*** and I'm like actual poop their actual to get their biome because there's biomes in there that don't exist anywhere secret to a healthier diet the light them up and he's eating nothing to him so we go climbing the tree guy sticks hand in the tree Scoops that out starts eating it like it's a f****** hamburger bees and I'm like bro I'm cool no no no come on come on like we've been doing this right I go in one sting like you've been getting stung since you were kids so you're like immune to it and they're just doesn't bother them doesn't bother them they're fine with it and their bodies also gotten immune to it right crazy good biting that honeycomb like it's a snack and all those bees are on his head his hands and the thing you never see in all the National Geographics and all the Nature Documentaries is that it's always serious and here's the odds of warrior and here's you know whatever Nate these guys crack noodle they like do you want it do you want to come with us tomorrow like none of your eating Clif bars and hang it back like you want it imma get I meant okay we leave at first you know the second I have the translator with them in the you know it's like worst case scenario when they don't they don't do food this this is the sad part they do the fake show for the tourists like the tourists come in usually European and then they put on the fake it's a fake it's real but they dress up and do dances and stuff and they give him money so I wake up at 15055 31st noise and then laughter I'm like are these flowers doing fart jokes at 5 in the morning and that's the thing that people don't realize is when you don't have TV internet entertainment and you're just with your family and your homies all day you're bored as f*** so they joke morning till night like I don't know what they're saying laughter laughter someone cuts a fart joke all right let's go so you saw the pictures they're ripped back muscle six pack the kids have six packs I was very out of shape I'm still out of shape but I was the most out of shape and think about waking up at 5:30 in the morning and the thing that's the final animal that's like kind of left is baboons they called they almost call them in that part of African like the baboon men cuz that's what they eat tastes horrible to me baboons look human so we're in a cave man sleeping on the top women on the bottom wake up there's another cave and you see all those people not another baboons and they're pointing at us their point they like look they're coming so I'm like this s*** is crazy we're hunting baboons like there's enough to feed her family think about like running again that was pretty fast in high school I can do V quick I can't run at top speed for hours and I and I got these I'm drinking water and in this environment it's Advantage to have black skin cuz it's cooling these guys are sweating what's going on we've been running for 5 hours and they don't get tired like a handful of brown water and that's enough for them and I'm like dude what the f*** like and they're telling the translator this m*********** looks like he's never caught anything in his life and he's like he hasn't and to me I'm an alien right to go he he gets his food from supermarkets what's that they hunt the food for him they cut it up and package it and sell it like they don't believe it. Should I tell them to like hey you guys you look like a f****** supermodel can I bring you to America America isn't that the place where people jump off buildings to kill themselves like that concept is so foreign that when someone explain suicide to them and was like oh my God they don't end in in the time that I'm there like I said that first week is withdrawal like f*** was my phone and then all of it goes away right I'm not thinking about any of my addictions I'm not thinking about like I feel peace I'm not miserable my depression goes away and I go morning till night you wake up you hunt for food you get home celebration everyone's happy that the men brought the food back the women you know gather the berries we have a big dinner celebration cuz every meal you got to be grateful for dance party by the fire and you're out couple fart jokes and you're out repeat the next day there's no time to be like bored and sad and upset been worried about some b******* and so I'm trying to keep up with these guys you know they're at they're running at top speed like say this is Sadie's at the bathrooms on top of the they're doing a perimeter they're doing okay we're going to come up all the sides and the and the dogs are on the Forefront right there running faster there's a guy named all the money he's got some dreads he's he's the The Villa at the tribe spotted he's got the Bible he's rolling joints for everyone he's about 50 ft behind you know he's running at like a he's not doing that seems like he's got I may be like to three hundred feet behind you no come on so he's running and he's running rolling joints and have you done any running before this not really man I'm a sprinter I I don't I can't I don't have any insurance oh my God dude cuz if they're like going back and forth were like my dude I'm just going to chill here on everywhere run everywhere just running ended that you know they don't some of them have shoes like they make homemade shoes but some of them don't sweat it just Barefoot and I'm the runt it's the it's the drive Bush right so there's like plants that have like thorns and like it looks like just like that white scratch to me I'm getting cut open I'm like bleeding everywhere just f****** they're just Clowning me to it or clowning me there like bro how did you ever survive and I'm like I'm like come on come on guys I put a GoPro on the dog so I go back and I watch it the baboon is like a human like it stalking for me types of the tribe hit the talk is his nutsack rips his f****** dick off I'm running the guy holds up his Nazis like look we got the nothing like why you show me that we're getting close they finally f****** hit the guy like sort of here and I to you not just saying the baboon you saying hit the guy who looks human man yeah and in all the dogs the dogs are dope I love these dogs so much they're all hunting dogs so they all have scars and f****** Tails missing like the baboons have fangs and these dogs are so hardcore that there's a dog that had one leg missing there's a dog that you could see his ribs and they're still down to hunt like they're in the back with me but they're still like I want to show value that you know cuz I talked I interviewed each person in the tribe and I what is the happiest day of your life and they all have the same answer the day that I wanted the biggest animal in I got to feed everyone and I wasn't hero and so I'm wondering all baboons for how long how long are the only hunting baboons I mean it's been for a few years now but let me be built on anyting will kill anything and there's nothing left of baboons just recently it's getting to just that and even the even then cuz this day that that day that I was on the first time cuz there was many days we want to go to reading and that's like super Downer for them but this is my first time I had to go pro the guys shot he backs into a tree like his last stand and the dogs just start ripping his guts out and started f****** and I'm watching this and he's like and it's like he's going well I wasn't even close guys they tie the the foot and the leg and they make a backpack that's how they carry it so we caught for that day so they bring it back to the Village I don't know if you saw that picture I brought my top Ramen with me so it's like they don't waste a part of this thing the person that killed it gets to eat a dick in the balls they eat the head to eat the brains they turn their fur into like jackets and just eat the brains dude so at night I thought I thought dinner time was over think about it how much protein in nutrition is in the brain right and it's the final thing right they stood ahead that's in that pot and so the brain gets cooked and then it's like a delicacy at the end they like tap a hole in and it's you know they have black skin like I remember that it was fire it was in the cave it's night time and I hear he's just here eating and I turn my flashlight on and I like the whole tribe just channeling the brains at the end of this is our favorite part and they're even for the end yeah and they're just like her face and I'm like yo you want to get in on this so I have some brain and everything yeah good once the the the look look there is a thing about primate brains prion diseases that you get the they find them in the cannibals eating a human eating human brains also they did get a bird there yeah sometimes they get birds to so I am eating mostly baboons I tasted I wasn't eating it I'm like I have a million Clif bars in my backpack are they got up some sort of an antelope or something there and then the drink now that water but they're so there's nothing left in the gas tank I pass out in the next day or not for me it's and I eat everything what it taste like I've never eaten a hue I'm imagining that's what humans would taste like it was just I don't know Jamie that's the only it's it was just it was strong but you got to think of the physical strength of those animals and everything is being really good but they loved it I don't know Jamie that's the only it's it was just it was strong but we got to think of the physical strength of those animals and all the testosterone and everything is being released them taste good but they loved it

you need another one of those what is the reason why you need so much water to do this is it so that the Frog as a place to be so the Frog never enter the frog or anyting I'm sure he feels very comfortable knowing that he goes didn't hear anybody get a bath the more and now we can hang and talk for as long as we stay in there but so long as you kept them in there and they live like 3 hours or so wow right now I don't want to 10 and time anybody complains about needing to pee when shown this video and I feel like get him to swim up to the how do you do that 10GYM your face becomes I worked on it I started like three or four years ago and it's been in your mouth 3 * this is so bizarre Here Comes so much so that I have to like locate at my you have to locate I'm a highly recommend you go to the video you're going to have to no no no no no no we're going to keep this up exactly the way it is people need to say I Spit on biggie I've called the water spout outside usually put out the fire oh my God gallon of water do we need another bucket in the back it is quite preposterous better where is he at right now, they're putting my hands serious little fella Nevada Road buddy so that's the Frog trick little fella Road Nevada Road buddy so that's the Frog trick

you you first get on television you first do the 6in then you are magic involves and your magic goes from being just magic to some of the more insane things you've done like standing in a block of ice for how long as you do it for 70 the lion cuz I had to make I want to be on time so flute the ice Thing by what made you decide to stand in a block of ice cream 60 plus hours so I'll tell you that you were saying how to go from the magic tricks Starrett I love that poster since I was a kid if I Can Do Magic books you see that poster and anyway so bill again the guy filter about Bill kloos comes up to me and he's like what about this and he shows me an image of Indian fakir that was buried alive for a month cuz I put a few pretend to be buried alive and Central Park will sneak you out and he'll come back a month later and I was like I always wanted to do like a beanie like things and I never want to copy but that one he never did so it's kind of like well that's interesting What If instead of doing it the way he did it what if I did it and everybody could see that I was buried alive so what if I was really just buried alive like it can't be that hard he's like yeah you can't do that and I was staying at his place so we got a coffin from Queens were actually Houdini was buried I bought a call if we put it back to his house and then I would just practice sleeping in the coffin then suddenly and then then I pushed the idea of doing the bird alive and I'm convinced people to let me do it publicly and what's funny is like firemen and stuff like would come to the store in the middle of a bike and they would shine like Holograms that me and their lights and stuff and that's the guy but and then they would assume that I wasn't actually in there okay so here it so back to this one well York City on the West Side Trump had like this bunch of properties that he was developing and I was like I want to be buried alive I'm one of your properties as I possibly like sure if you just sent me his driver and went around and that's what I did my first start and end see those two big holes to the oxygen was being see the holes above my headphones so the air was being blown in and out but it's pretty straightforward like at that one's not to me not that impressive like if I said two years away there for a week but if you're not used to like peeing while standing in front of lots of people it's actually really hard so Mom and all that stuff which is like a cone with a capital whatever and people are there the whole time like it's suddenly became like an event and so there was never like they were like old will cover it snowing and see him like no then people going to think I'm sneaking in and out so I had to learn so I would close my eyes like when we were kids sleeping but that and by the way I didn't eat for a few weeks before so I had no foods that was the other was an issue but what happened by Midway through the stunt I'll be waving and smiling and laughing in your house you didn't eat for how long 2 weeks before you do all of that into the body's really good with that so you were comfortable with the fact that you were able to fast and that that wouldn't be an issue of yeah and you were comfortable with the fact you were getting and where you drinking water from getting water and that was fine it was like it was enough how much water you think you drank over the week that you were in there a little bit but I don't know probably pipe 3 liters a day or something out there to tablespoons or was it was it was like a normal amount and body was full recovery and my starvation expert was like one of the top guys in the world and London my doctor at the end thought that I was cheating so they put me on and I filled water H2O in there thinking it's just pure yet this exact right right which is irrelevant by the way but so I had nothing but pure H2O 444 days lost 60 lb bone mass index dropped 33% you do magicians and the guy building there like you need to take these vitamins and they can be a handful of sugary vitamins and I'm like no it's just because I know if I'm going to do what I want to like actually do it right and if I would have taken those vitamins I feel like my metabolism would have gone into starvation mode and I might have had irreversible damage from me so the fact that I actually did it I went into starvation mode in the body protects itself doesn't show what I was saying is this Publix in the New England Journal medicine with them which I'm pretty proud of it but he he didn't leave me so he put me on an IV and right away the phosphate levels reacted and I almost went into shock so I almost actually did die when they refit 5 miso does papers called the refeeding syndrome they say like after World War II when they rescued the from the from the camps that the Jews and everybody was starving the camp and they a lot of soldiers gave them like candy bars and stuff and all the sudden their system went into shock and they die from not being referred the right way so what is the correct way to refeed someone if they have any in the NFL today slowly bring them back so that you don't have what happened to me which is phosphate levels go all crazy from Harrah's full of food and loaded like a fried egg In-N-Out Bagel it was like the most high also didn't go to the bathroom for a month-and-a-half think about that how long does it take you to recover from one of these things that what I feel like I never fully recovered from but like a guy wouldn't recommend anybody does that like goes like super super long with no food but but by the way it's only the recovery you might my body always goes like this now it's always confused when I like training I go up down really quick really easy and it was since that so I just feel like that but there's no way to prove that but that's a common thing though with people cut weight for fights really yeah they have kidney failure and yeah yeah yeah that's that's a real common one with guys Daniel Cormier I actually had to drop out of the Olympics cuz that I didn't know this kidneys failed kidney failure is a big one with the fighters kidney stones to for a lot of guys in Conway so you're that was probably in your opinion the one that damages most or left the most residual Dental most difficult one was the ice by far the The Ice was a monster and the reason why was because and now there's also something great about it so it was a warm November so they are coming through was like you know it happened to be a 68-degree 3-day spread which led to the ice keep dripping the cold on me and it's radiating this way but I'm also standing up in one spot completely stolen can't sleep due to fall asleep when we present to I to get frostbite if you cut your skin off right so I'm staying completely awake the entire time it's a difficult situation on our 55 exactly are that look back at all that my friends knew my eyes just go out and I'm now hallucinating like you could never ever there no hallucinogenic drug will ever give you those kind of hallucinations amazing but it's also when it goes into that Nightmare part it's scary but there's also that amazing part of it if you have people after that stunt now when hallucinate on stunts I have friends there that I say I'm going to start hallucinating just talk me through it but so here's when I started realizing that I was hallucinating cuz you don't know when you are right and by the way that wants something ever did was sleep deprivation that if you remind me I'll explain that whole thing but I won't forget but so so what happens is when I start realizing it is I need to know like what time it is cuz I'm done at 10 p.m. because it was life got to go through this stuff there that got by the way and my door man would come in like news or whatever Fox News that David Blaine is not really the I dated a special special on fox saying that I was never in the ice and I had a double of me that was at the ice I'm switching up and down with them so my doorman who get away with doing that at my door man who comes this this is the funny further to my door man that comes to see me he's knows me so well is it buried alive and he's so nice right he comes to visit New York and he walks up to the ice and he sees me he's looking at me all weird so I wasn't hallucinating it are you sure that that was you and Ice could that have been you as like what do you mean it he's like okay well it's getting so here we go on that special airs now he's convinced that it wasn't me and I haven't already thinks because he doesn't believe it she asked me is like theirs was that really good because they said that you were a double of yourself and you were switching it as I Kenny but you looked at me like the house if I have a twin brother like where is that identical twin brother and wife is so back to the back to the when I get to 55 hours so I'm looking around and I need the times like this what time is it and the guy goes 402 yeah so I'm like okay that means we have like another 6 hours whatever it is right and by the way my time estimation service so I have my cat wait might have been two of it and wait wait wait and I wait and I'm indoor it's hard and like things are moving everything's weird spiders walking up people are like sitting in the ice I'm waiting waiting voices are talkin to me don't talk back to drum waiting I'm waiting and I wait for like a few hours before I ask anybody the time again and I see somebody I'm like in the guy and the guy goes 4030 no was coming through I tried to grab it yeah so look at that but now that I've learned that sleep deprivation is one of the most amazing ways if it's controlled to go to another place it's like that the native while you're in there what are you doing occupy your mind like did you have for you using Haitian we just thinking we just winging it like without okay so for some of them what I do a big but firstly a lot of things you get to your free time to think like there's no phone distractions aside from the physical but but the one thing that I use with everything is kind of like a breakdown of number so I'm like okay have this much I have to get to this point than when I get to this point even when I run on a treadmill like okay if we get to this point which means let me get to the halfway point and I'll consider that when I'm holding my breath okay I need to get to 15 minutes I'll let me get the 7 and I'll start at 7 and its 7 I'm like okay I'm at 7 left I forget to another 3 and 1/2 in three and a half and then what I always do is whenever I'm training I always go past it so it's the same thing so like when I'm running a treadmill I'm like if I have to do let's say like you know 3.1 whatever it is I set that as my target but then I always go like another half a mile past it because I won't can't quit before because then you'll be in the mindset that okay I can stop before so anything that do I use numbers to get there I get halfway and then I push the go further every single time no matter what which is such a mathematical system of ironically necessarily have any sort of meditative techniques you just concentrating on the numbers meditation for breath-holding all the time everything swells up I could be in a really bad and all that stuff in the pain is excruciating and unbearable but yet I mean you're waiting and you didn't have any residual effects of that just my ankles and legs are really swollen I couldn't walk right but yeah I'm going to try that I think it's too weird so people aren't really like to do that billions of people I would imagine that someone would step in and try to emulate that obviously was not and that's why I pray my daughter never becomes a magician even though she's so amazing are your ability to overcome adversity and then you shall to your children from adversity all my favorite people are all the all came from a very tumultuous childhood they all came from like turmoil and no one wants that for their child you want to protect utility okay

mind forces the body into moving over and over and over again do you know you do it to this level of perfection that for person like me who doesn't know anything about cars I don't know anything about card tricks I don't know how they work I can't shop while you watch me Shuffle you f****** laugh at me but I watch your your hand movements in like amazing amazing around that I wouldn't even pull a deck of cards out of my pocket we could have there that guy that doesn't 39 like the guy who moved to Las Vegas when he was this is crazy story to tell damn but it's a good story I won't go into details so he moved to Las Vegas when he was 12 he moved there because he wanted to meet a specific person who was considered the best card sheet ever meaning the guy this is a guy that the reason that Vegas has those instead of like the dealer peeking the the down card they have to put into a machine and push a button private the movie Casino was built around with the computer in the suit like he was the the best card she ever but among the Egyptians he's like a phenomenon because he's working on moves not to entertain anybody he's working on move so he doesn't get his hand smashed up against the wall Binion's right so he's working he's not going to get killed survival knows about him move to Las Vegas and buys a craps table she puts a craps table Tim and his mom right and his mother single mother and him that they live in this small apartment very close to the man I was telling you about and this kid throws dice 15 hours a day on this craps table by the way there little bed is like under the table I mean it's a small space and it's a real craps table the only thing he does is repetitious Lee throw that and he can helicopter spin the dice so you can't see them doing this if such Force going around this way that when they hit the wall one died won't break the number and he can throw it exactly to this part of the of the table missing this from across the table so that one day locks and every time you can guarantee that number he did that everyday for almost a decade until he could throw dice better than any other human be in the world then he went and got a job at one of the casinos at X4 cart seats and worked in the craps tables it's all he did and as soon as he turned 21 he went out travel the world and wins exact amount of money that he should win playing craps where you're not detected but but you could unstructured places and he can throw dice like I've never seen anybody throw a dice it's crazy people that are really good at cards like my friend Dana White has been barred from casinos because he wins at Blackjack probably just counting I don't know what he's doing is counting that you can go to a place and do really well and I like your doing too well you got to get out of here while they also it says right to refuse anybody which is important because it has to question table called the fire and it was like a game where you have to hit all the numbers open and close without but crapping out so when I walk up to the table right away the Pit Boss and everybody to make a big deal if you can't touch the dice and then their life that you can call up I can touch a Dyson because you know they invite me and conceiving though I'm not cheating I still feel like you know maybe I'll get it I have a little bit of an ability that's giving you know what I mean right not a cheating ability but maybe I'm a little better than a random Persona right got it so the pit bought they make a joke and then the woman to Buster's us she says well if you take your shirt off of let your throat joking anyway what I do is I bet for everybody at the dentist I go to the low stakes table always so the high-stakes Super Bowl team right over there now I guess they're all crazy excited with these big butt so I put the fire but down for every single person at the table including the dealers that they mean the Pitbull you know that you know what the dicing and I'm throwing the bags do in the dice and this goes on for 2 and 1/2 hours I keep throwing the dice I didn't hit us I didn't crap out Evans in between each number so you have to roll like a 5-foot say and then I'm like oh no I need to roll another five which it is statistically much more difficult than a 727 is the most common number to come up so if you roll a 5 you're like oh that's hard cuz you can only get a 2/3 or 3/2 on both dice or 1/4 or for one so you have a 4 out of 36 as a 1 and 9 so you're probably going to crap out before you get the number that's why the game is to their favor so throwing the dice and it's two and a half hours later and they stop everything and they're like your fire but just hit one I heard of like the odds of hitting that bet is pretty rare but it just luck nobody should hit that bet I mean statistically it's unlikely and I wasn't cheating so yeah so do day but the question I'm looking for some reason with dice but I can tell you I would be if I was great the story for this reason playthrough have a daughter can you mix it like that and then squeeze it when you're done so keep it hidden but put it on the table but make sure you can see it and I can't see it you like no one can see that right you sure you want to do it again and the five is he basically how do you know that and they flip it and they want it to be Keno so it's like you throw the numbers so you said you wanted a 5 right yeah and that booty away from a f*** is that it weird for you though just to blow people's minds like that all the time but with seat so it's not you know I don't think if it meant so what happens is the digital fixation part of like the love of just like learning something new and exciting that's like really the stimulus is like that that fixation almost as I'd like the meditative thing that you're talking about but but as a magician that is performed it's like really the stimulus is like that that fixation almost like the meditative thing that you're talking about but but as a magician that is performing in trying to make TV shows it's a really difficult because you have to like keep coming up with new things which is that hard to do

10 person ice pick through my arm every night which is like you don't want to hit a break you let you know anyting nerve and there or an artery or anything so I let them choose a spot by the way I also brought the ice pick if you do do want us to cuz I know that you know it's real but I should Ford but I brought one with me and I got the alcohol from the here is a look at that girl so years I would imagine you would accumulate some Scar Tissue now that I that one's easy through the hand hand and I developed so much when I get a shooting pains I stop doing the hands next to here do this to use as what's going on here for your side okay wide okay so you two were on do you want the left or the right let's do the right since it's right next to me do you want them to come in and see it as well I mean they're just a standard ones that you get we believe he's doing it for real and he would take rapiers and he would have them pushed through right through the middle of his body his lungs and everything he would show on all sides and then they would pull them out and he'd be perfectly fine and every every doctor 70 year old man was on his boat and a stingray jumped up out of the water bong him in the heart and then start Stingray was gone but the you got really cocky with cuz he's like I could do anything that is f****** insane in the heart instead of pulling it out which he waited till they so doctor's waiting with the heart they let it beat out the other side and I slowly let it come out through his whole body it's crazy but this is too much I wouldn't show it to like to listen to get too cocky he started to think he was fine there's that trick where they do needle through arm and then I was like you just because it's usually sharpen this time is not as sharp but how do you know where to do it through how do I know I'm not going to hit an artery that's fine but what do you want me to do so it's hard to believe that it's real to keep pushing keep going keep going wait hold on Again by the way okay from the bottom like a straight path through no we have something but it's fine now when I do it through no it's a good sign Aries Blood on the other hole and your body is healthy so it's clouding up pretty quickly put it out and that's it okay

so in that section I pulled out a book and I was like 6 years old and I see a guy chained to the side for building staring out looking like that this apartment and that was easy I didn't know anything about what that all men I look through the pictures and he was hanging upside down and stuff like that but when I went to sleep I would have these dreams of this guy change of the side of a building and that began my curiosity and love of of Houdini and then begin my curiosity of like not just like the magic tricks stuff but like this stuff that's to me it's more like real those Two Worlds Collide because some of the things you're doing there they're just insane endurance and mental exercises and then other things you doing or what you would consider magic right so so I love both separately like independently like I always loved like I had a karate teacher at the YMCA that used guess I'll run Barefoot in the snow in the winter in Brooklyn and the other cuz we are young we like 6 7 all the kids like I'm afraid they were going to cut their feet on glass whatever and I would run in it and I felt like I could do this because I wasn't good other things physically like I was born my feet turned in and stuff like that so I felt like this I could do these things so then I learned how to hold my breath and the reason I learned that hold my breath was simply because I was on the swim team at the Y also and the other kids with I'm back and forth and they destroy me cuz my feet then function perfectly well and what I learned is that if I didn't breathe if I just swam it would save me time cuz I didn't have to move my head dip it out and you know right so I was just swim coach would yell at me but suddenly I was no longer in last place I was like now second and sometimes first and that began my like oh God you can actually do what the coach doesn't think of possibly could swim there and back without breathing and then the older kids would come to see me do that like challenge them I'd be like Lexi you can stay under the longest and go up and down five times I didn't understand the physiology of it that like going up and down doesn't help it's more effective to just sit through the bay to just kind of chill but I would just sit there and they go up and down and come back down at which makes it worse do not make this CO2 build-up more extreme you can actually hold more efficiently so when you have that feeling everybody has that feeling where you need to breathe for example in 20 minutes from now you will not recover and I didn't believe that either some magician friend of mine who's amazing and in one of my like heroes in life he he told me a story as I was doing like buried alive only thing he says you know you know the Navy Seals you know they black them out under water so they're not afraid of drowning and I'm like that can't no way like cuz it seems so abstract of a you do so but it's stuck in my brain and then when I wanted to do the water tanks. And I started learning about freediving and stuff like that I suddenly realized blacking out is pretty straightforward like you blackout and then you get your head up water and if your supervisor fine so and I went to San Diego with the seals I watched what they do and I actually did it but I didn't black out equipment back and forth a few times in full but they have that feeling full and they broke the seals up to some 45-pound weights and they have to walk across the bottom of the pool and the instructors are swimming above them and when the when the seals blackout they cut the rope bring them up to the top and they're fine but what that teaches you is that you do not need to worry about being underwater because if you're with a team and you by the way that no try this again out there is Extreme dangerous to shallow water blackout which lead to death but if you are in somebody that's training and you have a team and you want to push it as soon as you blackout it's like getting knocked out so it's but it feels better it's not like getting knocked out with a punch it's like you getting out of it at you for no but no but yeah right exactly except this one's even better that part of it went whenever I wake up from a black unlike online there's no trauma right under water thing probably not a good idea to do too many times alright know you could do it I mean I've blacked out underwater a lot by the way life of a chef 2 seconds and I had Telemetry there and I have pulmonary experts and everything like that and my heart rate dropped to 8 beats per minute and they pulled me up cuz they were freaked out that it was because you hear about the kids in the news like in 1984 whatever it was a kid was under an icy River for 45 minutes yeah with not blacked out unconscious underwater for 45 minutes they rescue him out pulling back recover him and full recovery so there's something that the body does it we don't understand it but if you actually is so because he blacked out because it was so cold the blood shunting occurred we're all like the same as when you get called the blood rushes away from the extremities and protects vital organs and because he didn't inhale the water cuz it was completely out of it when they were covered up they didn't even have to get water out of his lungs and he was perfectly fine wow so but that just shows you that there's like a certain levels of of what the body can tolerate that we have no idea so you in and learning how to swim in learning how to go all the way back and forth and holding your breath this started this idea of holding your breath bring stream long. Of time like what had been the record before you like 20 minutes and how many seconds to seconds when I was a kid I heard that is I start reading about Houdini his like proud record of his lifetime and he's the underwater Escape king for a hundred years ago and he had he was around the best swimmers and he had access and he got up to three and a half minutes so by the time I was like Teenage early teenager I got two three and a half minutes as I came out but I didn't know what that all meant right so I blacked out was that size like okay that 3:30 seems like the edge but then when I started working on the actual concept of like how long can you hold your breath for then I started looking into them like oh wow there's like people that can do 5 minutes 6 minutes 7 minutes and then there was a hypothetical record of of hypothetical 13-minute record but no evidence that was on pure O2 so is a hypothetical Puro to record of 1302 was here also said that flushes everything out and leave your body to yeah that I just went up to 25,000 ft in an airplane ascending at 500 feet per minute doors open everything no oxygen and I was Luke aikins who jumped from 25,000 feet with no parachute Landing that he was with me and two other at the pilot to other guys we just right under 25 is a 24/7 with it and I said let's see who goes hypoxic first so in a hyperbaric chamber Oklahoma City am I level my oxygen level shot up which nobody believes as possible so I get into the airplane and we put them on Amazon and everybody's around the same I was actually lower than Luke I was like at 90 whatever 596 he was at like ninety seventies I go and when are you going to get a Joker with it and as soon as we cross 15,000 ft his slowly starting to come down and I start doing the breathing technique. like I said write my oxygen levels and we filmed all this shot up to 98 and then 99% is I went up to 23 + 1000 ft now these guys think I'm a magician so they're like like fake so I took his monitor off of his finger and he took mine I put his mother on my finger put mine on his hang his was dropping around 70 and mine was 9899 then I switch with Dax switch with everybody on the plane and the oxygen levels with the breathing all the way up to that altitude and I'm not recommending this cuz I haven't tested enough in it but they did stay up at 9899 and so my evidence for that was you hear about all the Sherpas that go up to the top of Everest of the 29,000 ft and they're not bringing oxygen I get it but they're still at 29 plus thousand feet so they're doing something that's allowing them to rewire their ability to Naco hypoxic so this breathing technique you're essentially exhaling more than you're breathing in so you're breathing a small amount in and then and then I fill up everything for a second and then exhale slowly and I'd like for example of when we're done here if you have 20 minutes I'll get you up to a 4 and 1/2 minute breath hold in 20 minutes in this is just through these breathing technique when we're done with this out I'll show you how to do it and you will get up to four plus minutes for sure you've learned you could go three and a half minutes or 3 minutes plus right and then how did you have it in your head that you were going to eventually get a 20-minute Okay so it's a long I can I forget where I'm going it would like drink a gallon of water drink a liter of kerosene he would float all the kerosene on top of the water and then he would spit out kerosene out of his mouth look like a human dragon and then put the fire out with a gallon of water so it's that it is Magic but it's it's art it's mind-blowing like lots lots of people I love him it's not like it's incredible now look there's guys that are card guys that are like that also like lots lots of people I love and when they do the cards in a way that's like but but that act to me was pressed a button it was like whoa

I'm the one that would break into Joe Rogan house and still wants you and you still want you get me into the interview room in the after what's going on I'm talking to the guy showed up the guy pulled the gun Mexi and I was home and then I feel what happened to the guy with the machine gun I don't know did you know I don't know Miami Vice that night I had to be home by 9 that's all I cared about was this wedding so I'm f****** with the cops and like I'm just going to go in there and talk to him tell him the truth that yeah I went over there what's this got to do with what we talkin about dog hike tormented and then I agreed to get the guy information and I would just give him like red Vans drivers they would figure out the f****** Jamie I was playing them I was just giving them fake license plates how long you do this for I let him know that's the hard part yeah yeah the momentum of losing the weight is good but most really get to a point they want to take a break and then wants to take a break then it all slides yeah it's a bit of a break but then I want to get to that next level and so then get back on it and now he's shredded will put a lot of weight on you nice pictures they take what they do and I'm like we're heading that direction my trainer about 3 days a week sometimes two days a week and then on top of that and we'll do you know just different circuits back chest you know whatever whatever legs and then then the other days I'm always just trying to make sure hit the treadmill twice a day for 2 mi sitting in front of a computer podcast and playing games on Twitch and stuff like that so I feel like all that long I guess started a treadmill and the Dave treadmill discipline Bugattis look at me like man you like you're looking f****** good man you got your s*** together you look like you're about to lead your own show and I hear s*** like that and I'm like okay I better get on that what you do you are very positive like you're you're very warm and friendly like all the s*** that you do online you're all smiling and positive and friendly it's cool it's it's got it gives off a good play When I look at your Instagram posts or read something that you posted like on the good path people have a very poor judge of character doesn't seem as it seems forced people that are like that all the time if she doesn't seem very Force please walk around afraid for their life and it's like Abu ghraib where they're hooked up to wires and they he was like you had to go around and apologize a million times for like they're going to find this thing if you don't go away you got it you got to have a good run and we have a good running step back and go okay I'm still going to do my thing but like I'm not I mean it's only a few jobs Charleston's got war criminals her and pushed you jumping around I mean by she was buddies with but that was like one of the first CIA agent Allen really weird and then they went on if you can find that clip they went on with a weird like diagram of how it happened in Ellen's like showing the people not liking emotional like how are you feeling how you holding up it was a weird diagram of like and then he went to the left to the right it was very strange to put what the hell's going on this is a daytime show which is the guy in the sky from some of the pointer is this happening on like a daytime show this is weird I know that block of Beverly Hills that she is fired up The Vape at The Vape to jewels and camels coffee in a smoothie that's not good for brain not good at all learn half steak half chicken or something that way they give you more this and half that they're not going to put half in the scoop or they're putting a full scoop or in there and then you're getting a full pooper on the couch and College in the car that's when it happens I was honestly on the drive up here I had a little bit of gas and I was like just wait until you're there hold it because you don't want to take any risks right now so you know it actually worked out I let it out by pinching my remember who it was but I might even set it on the air remember it happening but I don't remember who was in the red barely got out early tomorrow set of college so like I feel like me trying to hold in a poop is the most cramming for a test I feel like I do not like procrastinate until they know they just they have to hit like I'll gamma stay up all night

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Marshall I wanted to meet the dog unfortunately I'm going to go shoot guns after this next week and it really freaked me out and then I started to have fun and I like the other way but veneer of civilization pulled off and how easily people go crazy it's a bummer but it's real I just hope it all gets better and realize it's all pretty socks regardless of whoever wins no matter how good the candidate is but I also think that this is shown us like we do have so much power to influence what happens it's not so much who the figure is are the person wearing the suit it's more about like people coming together and like making some changed themselves right now this is really about big businesses and special-interest making as much money as possible can people fat and stupid and they do their best to keep us uneducated trapped inside our house with low vitamin C just want people hopefully they use their voice in like a positive way I think that it's really easy to like attack people regardless of whether it's political or not nowadays with anything going on it's so easy to be like a negative voice when I think you feel angry right so even if you are already like a angry person you can be really a I'm frustrated and it doesn't seem like a way out I almost like the way people are did the Wii paper way people were behaving today with all the tension and all the infighting and all the chaos it's almost like this isn't it's not even their fault I really almost feel that way I feel like most people are so unprepared for something this stressful and anything's really stressful if that gets you so out of your head and when everybody's out of their head and no one could just calm down it's not a good combo not good for anybody and the real problem is there's not a real clear antidote for it is not a real clear path out of this that's what makes me real nervous people have requirements in one of the requirements that they have to be able to make a living as much as I think the universal basic income with one of the things this whole pandemic s*** when it's shown us that it's not a bad idea to have a certain amount of money that you have allocated to everybody so that they can pay their bills and pay for food seems like we should figure that out and Andrew Yang was talking about this in terms of automation but it's just as important with or more important with desk ume choices everybody hat means like we've automation comes and takes your job maybe you can figure out another job but if there's no f****** jobs because no one's allowed to work then that's the best argument ever for Universal basic income Bank we have to delete that keep it in its funny I need any funny what is a bit because you're totally right it is like comedies dad and there's it like I can either sell chicken wings but like I don't know there's only so many I want to go back to trading but there's only so much you can trade and like the only thing I have is my feet

super high once I think it was in the tank and when I came out I had this idea that alien life if it wanted to communicate with us would come up with a way of a type of language that everyone could understand like a language that got right into your brain a language that instead of you having to interfere with the sounds mean and turn them into words it's some new kind of technology that allowed like as they're making this sound as they're putting out the Sig going straight into you and you automatically understand without knowing what Bob said you guys should come to the spaceship instead of sent you know what it means without having hearing sound like you have to disassociate the idea of these sounds meaning these words or just know what it means spray Black Ink into the sky right what do they do for light let me see what it looks like again yeah there goes display black ink and it makes like weird patterns and that's how they would communicate that makes sense some series of patents has come up with me and he's really like a legitimately genius, and I got a chance to interview him once a way back but one of the things we talked about was he was talking about downloading Consciousness into a computer and they think that there's going to come a point in time where you will be Eternal because you're going to figure out a way to take whoever Alan Makowski is and put it in a computer you going to exist as you inside the this computer inside this thing I've always thought that that's probably what alien life is what alien life is something that is gotten to the point where it doesn't need a physical form any more like whatever Consciousness is it figured out a way to contain it in non biological systems so they take whatever you are when you're born and they began his things like how does that thing replicate what are they doing to make it what do they do what are you doing to make sure the power stays on like what are they doing I think keto probably squat I think life could be all kinds of shapes I think life could be that there was some speculations You Scientist were trying to figure out whether or not light could be a life-form like there could be as forms of life that were made entirely of life don't think of his life we think of his like frog or like and Ali macofsky or Jamie Vernon but it's possible that life might be like I thought about ideas like when you have an idea and then that idea gets your hand like man I don't like that idea and then you start working to fulfill that idea you build a thing like maybe have an idea like how to build a thing forced you to make it it's like you had an idea that bumped jumped in your brain and it's like that literally allowed itself to be borne by getting this idea that invades your Consciousness and tricks you into making thing doesn't that make you think that everything's already kind of decided like you know you have free will and control but to some extent everything's kind of already what's going to happen is going to happen to have free will but I think you also have determinism I think this is something that people have argued successfully where you you really have to take a step back and go okay what do I think about a person who a person is right now because I meet a person do I meet this woman and she's all f***** up she lies a lot and she likes to do drugs and she doesn't know what she's doing her life and she cries like you should get a b**** is that what you think what what do you think when you meet a person like that do you take any consideration like oh this is a person who is the granddaughter of Alcoholics and it all boiled down to genetics and terrible to all of her systems that came online when she was 2 + 5 + 6 they all came online during alcoholic household physically abusive and you're hiding in the corner of your bedroom and it's all chaos and drink drinking on your 12 like when you get to that 35 year old person and they've gone through this insane pattern without any intervention doesn't nothing switch how much of their life or they really responsible for it's a real question it's like who are you you are the combination of all the things I've ever happened to you your genetics are all the weird s*** that you inherit from your pair you and heard a lot of ideas they think even from your parents not just like learn from them but actually hurt these ideas and then you do the best with what you got and some people's got is f****** terrible like reality itself changes too much and things come up that seemed like if there was going to be a simulation this is how it go down when I first started reading about simulation theory was right around the time where I Anthony Weiner got busted for sending pictures of his death, what are the odds no more weiner but if we're going to come up with one Sunday and obviously not you and me but someone really smart can come up with a simulation it's going to eventually get good enough where you can't tell that you're in the simulation opponent of this concept and he was explaining it through like probability Theory and I'm a little too dumb to understand what you're saying but basically what I'm saying is if you do if if it's possible that someday someone essentially I'm paraphrasing someday we'll have a simulation like what are the odds that this is similar it's more likely that this is a simulation than not the other possibility is that we know the simulations, that's the other possibility that's why everybody's freaked out everybody's freaked out because even though it's not here it's inevitable if you follow the pattern of innovation if you go from Pioneers to people live in cities to cell phones and internet and f****** space force and you just keep going eventually you get to a point where someone figures out how to make an artificial version of life with his Ray Kurzweil staying or what you and your computer or there's a thing you sit in connect to the some someone can come up with some look for Trump if somebody brought trapezoid looks at Trump besides it mr. Trump all of this seems highly unlikely doesn't it will hear us why you are in a simulation this simulation was started 78 years ago and this is the pattern it plays out you you're you're giving a large amount of money to start your own business you've lost your life people mad at you though they going to be dressed and have the best things the biggest you have a business everything going to be amazing and then you come up to me like you wake him up and he said this and that this seems crazy it seems crazy because it is and you settled upon a very bizarre pattern in your simulation and this is how it came out and everyone else is mad at you but they did this. Don't understand this wasn't your fault you didn't mean to but they need to think of all the things we counted before like poverty abuse drug addict parents all the different things that make a person who they are right those are really kind of like factors in if you had a game like if you were playing some sort of a large-scale role playing game you like what is my cat's going to be like all the characters in The Matrix will be if we if we're we're staying this human form essentially someone going to figure out a way to put a helmet on you or put a f****** spike in the back your head that like locks your central nervous system into this gigantic computer that starts sending signals to your brain and tricks your brain into thinking it's riding on a horse to the f****** see the Saudi Arabian Desert that's going to come whether or not it's here yet to come out there's going to be a cell phone you see God you going to you going to like call God. God's going to be in front of you hugging you giving you love that's similar to what exists already in nature like maybe they're interconnected in some sort of a while maybe someone will figure out and maybe someone who is anti-drug we'll figure out a way to recreate psychedelic experiences using only technology that interfaces with your brain and turns on those chemicals get to could be like a state that's similar to what exists already in nature but maybe their interconnected in some sort of a while maybe someone will figure out maybe someone who is anti-drug we'll figure out a way to recreate psychedelic experiences using only technology that interfaces with your brain and turns on those chemicals on

talking a little bit about the video game stuff right when I was in my mid-twenties people couldn't wait for Warcraft 3 to come out cuz like the new shitt coming out I remember right. Like it's going to come out and they delayed in it and it finally came out and I didn't I didn't have any money then and I got Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 2 the interface for their kids out there listening like God in her face like your little peasants and paladins and removing them around or Warcraft three on the f****** explaining videos and I got on there and because the entire world was waiting for Warcraft 3 no one was playing Warcraft 2 so I was the god of Warcraft to you know when you go on online games like 20 years ago and I'd be waiting at starting map and I'm like who wants to play and if we have to wait for people to join my career was just getting started I was in a for relationship with this woman that I dated for 7 years my life was like on the up-and-up and this thing completely took over my life have you ever seen the documentary called Web junkies about the internet problem in China but I'm aware of the problem it's a document from 2014 and it starts with a kid just crying and they're like why you crying and so China had the clue PC rooms internet video game addiction a national emergency so they said it's okay to be set up these centres and you could either poison or drug your kid and just drop them off there like or you can lie to him and tell him they're going to like a camping trip and then just drop them off there and then they stay there for 90 days cuz that's and it's like a prison and the start of the movie they can't stop playing video games they can't stop watching porm they can't function so this thing in in the movie at some point I'll spoil it the Escape like like from this a documentary documentary they escape from the madhouse at one point like the kids you know the former plan and they where do they go they go to the PC room down the street like they can't stop so the visit documentary very interesting cuz for me you know me I don't smoke I don't drink I don't do any of that but I f****** I've been to over a thousand AA meetings and I don't drink what people why do you do that and I'm like cuz I can't stop pouring I can stop video games I can start stop gambling and I know that they have meetings for that too but they're harder to find them or shameful there's less people and if I go to a room and I'm talking and there's a guy speaking about how he got clean from I just listened to him and every time he says alcohol I replace it with p*** video game on and I and I'm like not just that I'll do that in the last case scenario but I'll I'll go to all the meetings I go to meetings and so I'm sitting on Warcraft 2 and I'm and I'm something's missing from my life and my rage and my anger and all might my addictions and my my mental illnesses are coming out in this world crafting and find this map that's perfect it's a small map and it's called paintballing in it's just everyone dies everyone has one hit point so one hit and you're dead so it's more like a like a chess speedball game so the games don't last more than 15 minutes you have one peasant 1 Paladin and one Wizard and I killed at that game I killed an infant in within 5 minutes you know like the way it goes you bring down a blizzard storm and that you build a cannon Tower whatever and you know if you're going to win and this is before that minutes cuz it's a fast game everything goes fast and you don't have to wait for the wood to chop its really fast and those games I didn't have the this was before the earpieces So within 5 minutes the game is sort of on auto so you know it looks like who can do the things the fastest then I start talking s*** I'm going to skull f*** your parents you done mother has a kid like and I'm like I feel like I am a horrible person and then one day I was the king of this map like in this one area in my life where my art career is kind of going good but not really and I don't know how to be in a relationship and I'm just sort of lost in my my mid-twenties I don't know who the f*** I am in this game I am God I'm God like and I'll go out and I'll be checked out I'll be out with my friend I got to go work and so is the first time in my life 18 hours 20 hours a day so I would play this game and I would lie I started lying I started lying to my friends about what I was doing and when I was out I be checked out they be talking about hey what does new thing going to go here and I'd be like ice storm icestorm you know if it's like so I would play this game and I would lie I started lying I started lying to my friends about what I was doing and when I was out I be checked out they be talking about hey what does new thing going to go here and I'd be like ice storm ice storm you know if it's like

remember the VHS tapes that were in the hell yeah so I live in a house with small house 3 Brothers me and my older brother my younger brother and my head exploded cuz I saw scrambled p*** and my friend all hundreds place I was like I think I could see at it drive to Showtime price you take like HBO over and HBO Showtime package you would decide where I was just kidding HBO but there was some of those channels like skinemax right there was so much they were like fake movies with a show like video but something one of my friends got to appoint an actual point we're watching it like in stunned disbelief in the f*** right and so that wasn't the f*** I see the scramble p*** and I can't function as a normal human that I'm 13 14 years old with the three boys that are all hitting puberty and I need more I need more so I go and where am I trench coat I walk into a adult book store on La Brea and like Highland and sorry Santa Monica it's where Trejo's tacos is right now cuz I wanted to look like an adult you know I'm like a f****** like ZTE Asian kid and I walk in and remember they used to be like 40 bucks and like in a carton they were like expensive like the packaging was really big and it when I went in there and I saw I saw a package perfectly up-and-comers Raylene's first you know and I'm touching the box and it's taped up and there's a metal detector in those cameras and I go I lost my mind I lost my mind I was like I have to have it I don't have forty bucks and f****** 13 year old kid I use my fingernail to take the tape off at take the tape out and the guy sees that I'm paying what's going on they're f****** Jam another coat bukit I run home when your 13 and horny 13 and horny and I get home we have VHS and a beta machine cuz my dad chose wrong and we have to eventually get the VHS and my mom and my grandmother is watching WWF wrestling so you got understand the Dynamics of a tiny home to my grandma my two brothers and my parents and I in someone is always home someone is always home so this things I got to watch it the wind can I watch it so I finally put a plan together I go I'm going to watch this and I don't even know how to masturbate I don't even know what that is I have no sex education I go at dinner time on Wednesday I'm going to eat my dinner really quick run to the f****** living room and so it happened so weird no we're having family dinner and I went to school was going to tell tell me if I run to the f****** living room and you can it's not that far I don't live in a huge house so you can still hear the silverware clinking like they're eating I pull out the like a Disney movie in there I pull up a VHS I put in my thing does the FBI warning I'm fast-forwarding unlike looking I'm looking fast-forwarding you hit play in fast forward and then I see tits and it's and then she's wearing jeans and then that's the cover no no Jamie no don't do this to me and I'd seen print Playboy at scene the movie in the car in like you know like I'm like 5 man so I am everything's dopamine serotonin you know I'm like my dad to walk in any second like what why you breathing hard while I do nothing nothing and then I I get to my room and I share a bunk bed with my brother I don't know and I'm like I'm on the bottom so I have full of like I don't even know his breathing slows down I'm on like sitting there I'm pressing my dick against the wall I'm like and I he's like finally he finally falls asleep and I got lucky like hold my whole arm squeaky it's like a shity bunk bed but it's still doing it cuz I want to wake up my what I want to do is I want to f****** cranking and then I hear David my brother why you shaking the bed so much anyways I can go on and on about myself David my brother why you shaking the bed so much I like and now I'm like God damn I got to find a place in my anyways I can go on and on about brothers a cock-blocker he's a cock-blocker he f****** cock me blocked me from myself

look at where they were 2014 look where they are now with faking the Chris Cuomo thing they've they've biggest show is the only one that seems to be a man doesn't crack a million in the ratings I think it's like 800 and 900 I think we might be wrong but I think that the co-producer him and said let's go to your house will fill his big deal think so and I think it wasn't that bad I think had mild symptoms that dude went out the guy left his home was not what he was talking about the issues he was having he was he seemed normal right like it was here's what I would expect from someone who is as sick as he seemed to be I don't feel that good but hey I'm one of the lucky ones quite a while ago at the end of the night I'd be like really a key cuz I was tired and I was as I was tired my immune system would be depleted and then I would feel the effects of the cold more and then you wake up in the morning feel a lot better baby pop some ibuprofen Tylenol so you probably got sick you tested positive but I think he it seemed fairly mild in comparison to other people like Michael yo when I talk to him what first of all when he was doing a video talking about recovering from it was coughing and in the video he was coughing when you talk about everybody but he had a bad case of it we got pneumonia and it was rough and you know Michael's a healthy guy so it that was disturbing to me but they Chris Cuomo version coronavirus didn't seem that scary the dude wasn't quarantined okay he went out to some property 30 minutes to his home cuz Emily with his family he was witnessed by somebody else to do that right I need and want to do it about the tracking the Cova tracking that they can get people to agree to tracking if it's your job to do that you're going to keep going doing that in China yes this guy just got back from a trip in China to give a 14-day quarantine and they put a f****** camera right in front of his door that's weird is like what you're not going anywhere for 14 days and we're watching you people in politics to encourage Society to snitch on people that's weird that's a level of cracking if you're saying if you lose snitches get stitches but this one it's a weird step towards this tracking system that's going to be implemented that they're starting to be like oh it's okay we're going to reinforce you guys being stitches thanks for letting me know that Karen was out not doing the proper protocol have been that many deaths were like relatively to what they thought they were going to be and so that means it's a success so that means the way it's being implemented so far as been a success like you're getting it more aggressive with it even though those numbers are way lower than we thought they were going to be you shouldn't have f****** party but you also shouldn't give people rewards the snitch something like if these people ain't dead in 14 days imma go out when I first looked at this and I heard about we want I heard that there was a lab doing research in infectious diseases a couple miles from these wet markets where they're saying that this thing broke out there are cases in the former Soviet Union of them doing these this Research into infectious diseases and weaponizing it and then having it because the protocols weren't followed or whatever Allison kills a few people and they Oshkosh it because it's a 1960 something nineteen seventy something so there is precedent and it wouldn't be Beyond The Pale to think that someone was doing some sort of research it doesn't have to be weaponization it can just be there just studying this infectious disease not even weaponizing it and someone contracts it somehow in that lab and then brings it outside starting the coronavirus pandemic and says the case against a Wuhan lab and so it says why the Wuhan lab remains a suspect in the coronavirus investigation I mean it's really likely that we never really will know but they most certainly were working on viruses similar to this one right there at the end of this article says there's another one called are 96% of the same genetic material of a virus the to share 96% of their genetic material that 4% Gap would still be a formidable gaffer animal passage research says Ralph Barrick virologist University North Carolina probably in bed with the Russians who collaborated with a guy got arrested because he was taking money from Russia or excuse me taking money from China cuz he was doing something with them I mean it's real spooky what's really spooky is the World Health Organization is essentially in bed with with China and they're not giving us a hundred percent clear detailed information everything is filtered down through the Chinese propaganda system no shirt very dangerous and they also at work but it seems like they were a little more prepared for this than we were if you're doing recent there's a lab what are you doing research similar to this close by there there's a history of other countries maybe even China to doing research into infectious diseases not following protocols that we would hear in the United States are not all as safe as they are shocker here in the United States what we're doing the same type of research and then it gets out and then they just happen to have a lot of these kids ready to go for testing I don't know what else you going to do killed sometime the aftermath of Tiger King killed some more time but then we still got like six more weeks of what what do we do now I think we're supposed to be May 15th right May 15th I think that's the latest projected date but the governor just stop people from going to the parks and beaches what was a new thing today yeah I think you know what it is like we can't have nice things you know whenever they give us something nice we don't. You know like a little kid we got to let you go to the beach it's like no you're not supposed to be playing volleyball and lay it like it like just you're supposed to keep moving right you're supposed to like walk or ride a bike or go sir for this little but you weren't supposed to just mingle Gathering groups and of course we're Gathering groups were partying at I got right now if you can't you don't have a haze uh and you would see people they parked their car along PCH right and they sit on the car and kind of like look at the beach and stuff like that so I guess you each one of them had a car's distance between them cuz you you're sitting on your car the next person sitting on their car but then I passed this Neptune's Net which is like a big motorcycle hang out and there were maybe 20 bikes in a row part and the guy call just kind of hanging out and it was like no man like that you can't do that you know I mean like like a motorcycles the ultimate social distancing vehicle right you're you're by yourself you are in a jacket gloves and helmet you're not breathing on him but when you stop you can't just all have like normal you know and that that was the part that that I think that that's what they're like no we're not going to do it cuz I think you know that this Georgia and Florida whatever it's like that I think that that's what they like no we're not going to do it cuz I think you know that this Georgia and Florida whatever it's like they're like the experiment man they're like yeah let's let them get out and then let's wait two weeks and see what happens

no diseases ever make us better cuz it's like a Marvel comic book yeah how come I can't get hit with gamma radiation the s*** out of me you know that he's the Hulk now constantly 24 hours and then he's smart and intelligent Hope come on he's so he's Bruce Banner all the time he's Bruce Banner but he's also the Hulk we were talking about reading which is what I'm doing now and I got this book it's like 10 years of the Hulk is like a thousand pages of Hulk comic a 10-year run and the story is it's great it's the gray Hulk who was smart but not like the movie one but he was smarter than the regular one that you and he would only change at night like a vampire like a werewolf most the time we need him as a hawk so I got an idea yet somebody Mark Ruffalo the Hulk all the time the Hulk has glasses now it's so ridiculous that he's a really smart guy and then he's basically a model like unlimited power working as a fighter and he has like a room he's he's taking baths and stuff like that was at movie Ragnarok and the fighter he's like a gladiator but he's treated like a hero and he has all the Gladiator stuff for you know and it's like that hunk wouldn't be doing that like the Hulk would just be smashing and destroying but the folks like a gladiator in Thor ends up on the island and thorens up in the ring with him but he's smart enough to hold conversations cuz I was a big Marvel guy and I tell people wanted a big things and they brought it up in the First Avenger movie and this was a storyline I remembered as the Hulk could never fight Thor because they were both so strong they would destroy the planet cuz like the Hulk's The Hulk strength was unlimited to the matter he got the stronger he got and Thor is a god which never play in the movies but in the comic books every now and then thought I would remind him like I'm a God that my dad is the god that's a problem if he's a God then what the f*** is Captain Marvel cuz that chick Trump's everybody he was like controlling a son right when they this is what I love and this is what what why women laugh at us cuz we're having this discussion UFC strawweight champion she shoot like she has a gun but no one they fight can be killed with bullets missions of weapons technology primp articles to become Goliath anagram Master Marksman haven't been trained from childhood in a circus by the criminals trickshotting oh boy well I'm a big Jeremy Renner fan I like that guy a lot and when superpowers and aliens and stuff come in that's when you got to you got to make some phone calls by aliens coming at you and you shoot them with a bow and arrow I just know what's his name of Wolverine heels instantly okay has agility speed endurance and reaction time Superior to any Olympic Athlete athletes who ever competed LOL the super soldier formula that he is metabolizes and hands always body to the peak of human efficiency Playboy philanthropist yeah I'm going to I'm going to go fight I'm going to go home for those would be my two in a fight do you know who she was but it wasn't that great you know and didn't match up with someone who has the power that she has like she look if you're playing a game and the game is good guys versus bad guys on your good guy side you want to have like you'd be like real pumped if one person had way more power than anybody was ever lived or you would just wait to play that card you know you'd like let people know like I don't let me have to pull comes down here everybody's but here's the thing like they they can't figure out a way to make a good movie with that I don't know I mean it again the movie was was all right but it wasn't it wasn't great it didn't show tune up. shut up. comic books but he's not Hercules Hercules right like when Stanley didn't create Hercules can steal any other mythical character right and and it was cool with Thor because in the comic books he was human to write he had like a human form and then he would turn into Thor yeah in the comic books he had a human form I don't remember that but but you know what you would think that someone else could make a Thor movie like why can't they make a Thor movie Like An Origin movie about Thor the God could you remind they might they have never done it yet but who knows a store that God could they have done it yet but who knows that the Elder gods

and I feel like what we are doing there in these great martial arts teachers that we've had teach us is had to be sort of almost like you're fighting this fight but there's no rage you're not actually even angry at the person it's actually just you're just doing what you're supposed to do right now can I be completely relaxed and do this under stress under the stress of combat choke the life out of you literally I don't look at myself as a fighter right at that time when I saw you last you left your lights on your car and I said no I have a I have a Saab that you need the keys to turn on the to get the lights on so I can't pay my car but my top was down with convertible sub in the top was down and my lights on and I realize that there is this dude in my car trying to start my car and my wife left her keys in the glove compartment and I guess he will open the glove compartment when it was open can you put the keys in it and he just couldn't start this wasn't like he's so I don't know if it was because of yoga or Jiu-Jitsu or whatever it was but I was so calm about it I just said hold my sweatshirt and I was super skinny then I was like I don't remember my diet was I was 100% raw food is vegan like you know about 47 soaking wet with a crystal in my paw and I just said in a very calmly does it hold my jacket and I I ran I jumped on the back of the trunk I jumped over and jumped on his head and then and I'm small so I'm real close to the steering wheel and I slipped behind and tried to choke him but couldn't get deep enough behind him to choke in and it was this big dude I couldn't really tell but when I jump it was a big dude I just said and he said you trying to choke me I'm going to kill you but it was such a stall me because he couldn't move I couldn't get the choking deep enough and it was just a stomach and it went on for like 3 minutes just there is your first minute is a first date it's midnight in Santa Monica right now and finally we stand up in the seat for Santa present my windows are up but the top is down iCup his neck and a punch him twice and he grabs you by the shirt he grabbed him by the shirt and we throw each other through the windows snap and shatter we fall out of the car over the door and roll in the can I put on my guard and they just at that point I think he just turned and ran and I pulled a shirt off check this out I had his shoes his cousin shoes fell out they were sort of like on tight Adidas his shoes fell off his pants dropped Sunday we're pulling up his pants into socks and that's the story I think it's because it was sort of like the in that mood of this is my duty I have to protect my car and also the other thing is you are used to like pretty intense conflict when you doing Jiu-Jitsu all the time and then you do we do MMA pictures of a tap you let go but you're that was rust yeah you're going as hard as you can that's the difference you're so accustomed to that so when you're wrong with this guy also people that aren't accustomed to that they they feel vulnerable panic you look like my size you know you look like weed and I should be but you're You're vulnerable You're so vulnerable right this second but it's almost like you're learning a game and then you realize how this game is completely deadly it is a deadly game has exactly what it is you're playing a game of I'm trying to kill you you're trying to kill me but we're really good friends that's the crazy thing is like a lot of guys who have technically killed me and I'll cuz I have a tab there my like the people that do it all the time so peaceful I don't know of any other item really study Marsh other martial arts except a little more Thai in Thailand but but I wonder if it's you get the same feeling as you don't have to pull that was like that's brutal I'm in Thailand it was like I didn't want to kick a guy in the block it with his shin and I lifted his knee and I got a bruise from my ankle to my knee that was like that's brutal is brutal.

the idea in the in Vedic thought is that there's Davis or higher beings and then there is the David T Deva the hot like a judeo-christian tradition would say God how much of what these people are experiencing and talking about in the Bhagavad Gita and all the texts that has to do with Soma and has to do with the Psychedelic rituals that they were participating in while they were doing these things said that yeah it's a commonly known thing I think that's only as a beverage on the Moon the Moon you can try to recreate on Earth this plants they say that grow that don't grow here and those beings that grow and we just hear the stories Smith but you know what the zebra Smith I live in I live around a bunch of beautiful turkeys but if you've never seen a peacock turkeys look like boring his name is Robin's occasional Cardinal we see a Quetzal or peacocks like Rocco is blowing on me he's just thinking danger danger danger I'm actually be Emma being, being with family with ideas with fought with the home so the yogi say you don't know but there's they said everything is a personality not just you because one says I look at you you're just a big lump of Earth and flesh water blood whatever you whatever you want whatever lens you want to look the periodic table birthday in Chinese elements in Indian elements are they going to look at matter but you're not the only say you're not that you just have that so they say the Earth itself is a being it's a living being and all the animals are living beings outside of the earth there are living forces that all the planets are beings that's why there's a detour that's why if you study there's different mantras to the different planets cuz the planets affect your karma so some people want to they said they realize I would love to get your chart done because when you have people like yourself or even myself on a lesser level where we have some types of extremes in our life you can read it in their chart is it becomes very obvious same with criminals it's in their chart really if you really knew how little control we have our life it's shocking know this and what do they need to know nobody needs to know your your birth time your longitude and latitude of where your example I was born on a great astrologer once these guys are real likes simple humble like humble people and I said I want to know my chart and you just said I'm not very good I said, I've heard you're the best you said I'm not very good and he said but I will tell you what parish are thinks of you apart Shara was Lafave of the person they say scribed or spoke all the beta's vyasa Dave which of the Great sages of India soap are Shar with his father and he's responsible for gotv or the was called the horror shastras where to get the word horoscope from and these are all to do with studying the luminary study of celestial bodies and to pinpoint you in relationship to them so he said well at a certain. When you were born there was a rising sign and rising star in from that store we can calculate your chart so I gave him all my statistics birth time and date and longitude and latitude and then he opened up these books that he had on the Shelf doesn't know me from Adam and just goes this is the star of music and spirit and you will spread music and spirit throughout the world Palm readers Mystics who don't even need your palm they say they're stronger than they say the Palm readers it look right in your face and tell you all about your life and I like it and I'm like I met many who can blow your mind that would have to be someone who doesn't doesn't know who I am but in Indian I'm not one of these new-age guys like I'm a New York skeptic okay but you believe in Ganesh but I believe this could be could it be could be most likely to appear to them then or I think psychedeli I can bring you into this otherworldly Realms and even according to The Vedic concept is there's other Realms and everything's Divine and everything that everything's a person and there's 33 million gods and then of course out in the material universe and planets it has lower planets like the Christians would say hell but they talked about whole mandalas are discs in layers but they were the differences from Christianity and I don't know where the Christians actually got a got it from her when I was added or subtracted but The Vedas teach about none of them are Eternal meaning you don't stay there just like we don't stay here we're just started doing time on this planet we do time we learn a lesson you get some Karma you got some good good good or bad, but if you don't learn your lesson a sentence with lake or they get the library you're not dangerous you're not threatened good behavior so according to how we behave in this world were perpetuating ourselves we're going way low we go high and people go high all the time it's impressive and people go high all the time it's impressive and you take that in micro and put it on a macro as well and to the degree that you sort of don't learn your lessons you just noticed

you were the first guy that I knew that was really in the yoga back that I knew Hicks in like on that document with choke piano right back there was a great documentary it showed how much Jiu-Jitsu and yoga together made Hixson this really incredible force it was the yoga had affected his mind in this great way cuz he was able to meditate and he would do all these incredible yoga poses you sell flexible and he had such dexterity of his arms and legs mean a lot of people. send about yoga because of Hixson but you were the first guy that I knew that really went so deep into a you actually became an instructor cuz when I first knew you I knew that you were in a band and that you you did yoga then a little bit cuz I already called you yoga Ray but it's like I felt like you were on this path and this this yoga packet Al and then paying attention on social media and following you it's like he's really into this s*** I remember when you were moving to New York we talked online and you were going out there to teach Jiu-Jitsu or excuse me yoga and I was like I don't even think he's just all doing yoga now and that's what happened right you know I did music for most of my life with the Youth of today youth of today was the band before I became a monk and the night and at the height of that career this is a New York City hardcore straight-edge band weed and drink with and smoke and we know strict that's me more relaxed form so that's what I did the idea of the so we started this when we were 16 17 and make your own music and stuff like that but when we got youth of today together it was about sort of a message of Better Living positive mental attitude these spiritual principles like Karma and what goes around comes around and respect dignity controlling your senses in your mind and what what led you to that really I've always been my idea of a good time was this was like a tease in New York City was you find these like easty Westy book stores that have books on yoga and metaphysics and reincarnation and just plop it down and read books all afternoon by Swami's and saw dues and Weirdos and palm readers and stuff like that that's my idea of what a good time was and I always felt like life is meant for our self edification that's why we're here we're here on a mission of growth and when I read books by stages are Mystics and things like that I was always like I want to be like that that's what I want to be that's bigger than anything out there that I want to be so truthfully the band I never really want I'm not a musician I play a little bit of everything I wrote all the songs but I'll always looked at myself as more like a seeker and maybe a spokesperson but then at a certain point in the success of that band I started realizing okay now we're big and there's a lot of people who follow those sort of principles of controlling your senses we don't drink we don't smoke weed we don't take drugs no we can care about what we eat but that's not the goal that's like a doorway to something bigger and so for me I had to step away from that even though it wasn't bad or anything it wasn't what I wanted to become and it was a certain point in my life you know in your life at the time was the height of the band's career as well you started touring internationally and stuff like that but I realized there was no amount and inviolate this was 80s in New York time Run DMC Madonna the Beastie Boys you never knew like what was about to like blow up and you were with all these other people that they were your inspiration and they were your friends and stuff like that so at that Titanic when I just said there is no amount of like material success I want that's going to feel sort of like a god-shaped hole in my heart there's nothing out there that I want and it was also a very precarious time of my life for the precarious but a time where my father went into a coma for 3 years unknown lemon lung infection was young 64 unknown lung infection and there was some neglect in the hospital and his lung collapsed and sell Comas or one of these places we don't want to see. Dead He's Alive and it's so confusing for a person that loves that person had to even react and you know in it I'll say in a humiliating way real I couldn't deal with it and I shut myself off and I went in just started working on my music something I could do and then at his death when he finally left his body I would I was cultivating a strong desire to go to India and and study more and I was at that time was also studying yoga ayurvedic medicine so he went into a coma for three years and then when he died animal need money left his body I decided I'm going to India now this is that was a sign for me and I quit the band and this is at the peak of the band it was at the peak of Youth of today yes. Hard to walk away from all that you know what I was at a point where and you probably experience is 2 mm sheready probably just too sometimes when you become very successful at something that same things or the thing that you love so I can eat away you as well sometimes sometimes the peep I'll share it with you I saw it I remember sitting in an ashram on 24th Street and she even under ashram she been on there was like yeah he came outside India and he brought lots of books and there's a library books were bookstore on 24th Street Bree has a notch from the New York City I remember reading this one quote by him in the midst of my life is in a band being a teenager living in New York City and it was before first the first one was really interesting where is your happiness coming from is it coming from your day-to-day living or is it just happiness from your ego and I thought where is my happiness coming from is it me being a person that I said want to be is it from in a people people nowadays they collect houses they collect cars that colectomy thinks I collected records act like a rare Punk records and in my brain I thought the music seems like that if you're unfamiliar with it there was a band that was great and they put out 1007 inch records and then a band broke up with a punk scene always groups of these people pay $100 for that record it's so me and my guitar player for sale we had like thousands of incredibly rare Punk records that if you remember the world of records no one played the records cuz you could damage them what you did was put everything on the cassette and so I started thinking about this quote by the Swami who said man where am I getting my pleasure from I'm thinking Walmart record that it was the first shattering of my concept of self and where what is joy and what is pleasure based on my ego and all those record that I really valued and I really valuable records and we start a record company of the time so we would basically print limited editions of their bat we put out all our friends record sick of it all Gorilla Biscuits bands that we grew up with our own band youth of today and so we put out these records we make limited edition and then we trade these it's like printing your own currency basically make a long story short after I read that one quote my whole concept the pleasure changed and I took all those records I threw them out on stage 2 all fans record collector fan that was a roundabout story but the second part of what that that Swami wrote was and I'm paraphrasing this of course the diseases of the Soul are not new their ancient the soul is pure the spirit is pure but it gets covered by lust greed anger and envy and I started thinking that me Rusty I'm not greedy I'm not angry I'm in a band have no money you know if you ever been in the band it cost money to buy a guitar got a guitar cost money by strings. Strange by an amp so it's it's it's a money pit to be in a band get paid 50 bucks or whatever so I was thinking not me but as my band got more successful I realized man I do have that there is money out there that I want and I never got I got offered money for the first time and I Get Money I should get you know I wrote the songs I should get more of that money they get in a fight with a drummer know I should get that money we should split four ways everything and I realized I wasn't not greedy I just had no money my uncovered with greet Drake cuz I didn't smoke I was a very big deal big deal and it was descended spirituality start to work on these subtle things that are plaguing me and you're the people are really want social justice out there it's very easy to point the finger at everybody and watch what everybody else is doing wrong but in the yoga path it's about like putting the microscope on herself where am I wrong and I really want to chain how can I start you really do some psychic surgery of my own ego of all these other things that are baked down to the spirit so anyway that was my point was My Success oh you said you said what was it hard to give up the band and I was like no I'm so over it I was over another one ND that plays the soul they say so there's people that are looking up to Joe Rogan I want to be like that and there's people that maybe you're looking at your pretty big right now I don't know if you're looking up to anybody but but the feeling like in the corporate world or someone wants your position and that plagues a person the person who's not gracious or a person who's like there's a scarcity mentality what is a band coming up and it's a band I want to get too and I realize that all these real subtle things they were playing my heart and these are the things I wanted to work on and so yeah it was it hard to give up that wasn't was great relinquished it you were on a spiritual Quest all the time like getting spiritual or being on a spiritual went on this Quest and that's why I found so fascinating that's that was what was so appealing to me is like okay this is a real one cuz it's not a lot of real ones there's a lot of people that pretend to be on these spiritual, but they really did just want everybody to think they're spiritual it's like you were talking about the pleasure was the pleasure voting records hold the big punch with people coming over your house I think you're cool because you have these record aeschylus record man that's the same thing with spirituality in a lot of ways what would people love is the fact that someone finds out but you do yoga everyday someone finds out that you meditate someone finds out that you've read these books the Eagles So Damn Yankees I know it's so sneaky it sometimes like his door and walk in anybody could open this door people would walk he would come downstairs and there was a homeless lady cooking and is is Kitchen to go Sun you got going on and then he was like what a book I forget what book it was it was something obvious like Catcher in the Rye or something like that Denny's like you're so right about that we're both Holland laughing but that's a thing the people do like people want A well-stocked Library not just to read those books read the books then but it all looks yes but it's also then there's an issue where people want people to think that you're This brilliant erudite interesting person because you have all these books in your house like that's that's there's a there's a factor in that they say that jeeva or the spirit has to go through a elements in each element to leave the material universe is according to the yogis and they get progressively double in size and the last one to the first one is Earth and then that last one is you go is the hardest is the biggest of all of them and it's so refined even people that we do altruistic things you do things for yourself betterment it gets wound up in religion because Roundup and Diane Impala take to get to end up in in race against Roundup Roundup in animal rights Advocates Roundup in against animal is the biggest thing and you can see that person too and I intend and almost better than seeing us some someone else's to see it on yourself that's like that's the work of the yogi is try to stay motivated by that play it again so yeah it's a constant checking in with the ego I think that was part of my I didn't think about it I came from sort of like a scene where everything every had to be cool certain whether certain look a certain dress sneakers who wore short haircut for a robe

this is the crazy thing that you've done and it begs the question when you do crazy things like it does this change you as a person does like walking across Antarctica has one rowing across the Drake stretches that was backpacking hostages another like is this changing you as a person like what are these diseases experience with you tell someone hey you're going to sleep 90 minutes. A clip then you going to roll for 9 minutes and you going to poop into a bucket and you're going to sleep like a sardine with a bunch of other dudes on this boat and not going to sleep much you're probably going to loosen 8 sometimes unibrow in the dark but yeah but you'll get through it though but weeks later you'll be done yeah like these these are weird things that you're doing a sort of changing but your personal life experiences are so much more extreme than the average person's yeah hundred percent I mean you know one of my reasons for yes for sure is to test the limits of my own potential and grow I'm not doing them just to like so that I can be the exact same person on the other side of Antarctica The Other Side Drake Passage to take that learning and you know I've been asked a similar question I guess before my answer or the way that I kind of think about it is I've started to think about life like the about life in the totality of life experience between like one being the worst day of your life and 10 being the best day ever and you know one might be going to a day that have a family member passes away or one might be being wet and cold and freezing and ocean rowboat you know spooning with this other guy and you know bench it in the bucket and being exhausted and tired and I like just like rough moments in your life right and 10 is hedonistic Choi the most pleasure Field Day Ever to happy joyful maybe you've succeeded in something you've accomplished like always going to stop and some kind of looked around at the world will say what are you afraid of you must not be afraid of being alone you know these heart challenge of the stuff like that maybe not but what I'm really afraid of is actually living a life range-bound between 4 and 6 I think too often people you know the typical life experience unfortunately cuz we have some Creature Comforts particularly in the western world where you know you can live a life you just stuck between 4 and 6 maybe the happiest day of your year your week it's like the Super Bowl and your team wins the Super Bowl and you crush a couple beers with your buddy and you high-five miracle that was awesome like that was cool but it's not Cinemark maybe the worst day your week is like a Monday and your boss yells at you or something like that and you're just like you're like a man like it's kind of a bummer but you know I don't give a s*** about my job anyway so I guess I'm not really that bummed about I just like is I can just kind of like in this like life of like quiet desperation in the middle and I think a lot of it has to do it because we're hedging a were afraid of the one for just like I don't want to experience the one I don't want experience discomfort I don't want to experience pain like but anything to do that but what I realize I think of it like a pendulum is swinging the totality of life like to get to the tens you also need to embrace the ones like the totality of life in the experience it's not I'm not experiencing these high highs with these hedonistic joys of these beautiful flow states are things like that you know in spite of the ones in spite of the challenge but it's because of them out my ribs are sticking out I'm exhausted I can barely pick my backup to put it in my sled my body is completely compromised I'm exhausted but then I tap into the deepest flowstate of my entire life I find this place in my mind and my body and my soul and you know I pushed 32 hours without stopping to the finish line and I wouldn't have gotten there had I not push myself had I not be no gone through this difficulty you know I like to say that you know pain is mandatory challenges are painful straight-up pain is mandatory make no mistake about this obvious things I'm doing are painful. what does suffering part is optional you know you don't have to be in these moments so when I do my God that's horrible I'm in this is why I get my stuff out there's a terrible bubble bun go down this path you like I'm doing this because when I step outside of my comfort zone I grow and as I grow I can share that with other people and hopefully have that ripple effect of positivity and inspiration that's lasting in the world for others as well yeah you mentioned one of my favorite quotes over the Thoreau quote most men live lives of quiet desperation I'm quoting so damn true I think you're right I think you really need very difficult things in your life in order to appreciate real comfort and relaxation absolutely I don't think it hit it if you just if your whole life is just soft cushions and everything's made out of a lower and people feed me grapes I think you live like an a****** appreciate calm you don't appreciate peace I think there's just far too many people out there seeking Comfort I agree with that and I think that it's funny because people are going towards that they're hedging against discomfort like okay well how to make this as comfortable as possible and then they sit there and then like why am I on satisfied why am I not happy and it's like because you're hedging against discomfort because you're trying to mate like you said it's poor education really people are not educated on what it takes in order to be fulfilled in life it did the ideas that material possessions or some modicum of success is the goal it's not you know what difficult tasks is what make you make you do something that's hard to do do something that's interesting do something it's complicated intricate do something that requires you to stretch your boundaries

different times of great Prosperity being a hose choice but there's a lot of reluctant hose music cuz it's fun but that's not doesn't Define you how funny was that Ben Shapiro sang people get the wrong impression about him all the time I think he's a very nice guys a very smart guy but he yes is blind spots like we all do and when you think that wet ass p**** is a gynecological condition whoops let me tell you something if you see someone who does like performative work about politics cuz it was part of what he does is funny like he has a mug that says leftist tears you know and when he serves you water like when Ezra Klein from Vox was on his show he drank out of a cup that said leftist tears the person in f****** hate them just silly such a thing in fight and then but with him he was so good at it because he was a guy who was very safety first as a boxer look incredibly skillful like arguably the best boxer of all time but he didn't go after guys and just engaging Wars he fought very packed and he's fighting the best fighters in the world so he has to fight very cautiously sometimes that's the correct way to do it but he figured out a way to get people to pay attention because that generally like being the most skillful great but you want people to pay attention so you want to be like Mike Tyson getting knocked everybody out well if you're not a Mike Tyson got knocked everybody out the best way to get people to pay attention to make them want you to lose show them all your money cuz I watch the million dog soskic it's kind of funny I mean if you really pay attention to its kind of fun will Ben Shapiro is that's kind of what he does like says things knowing it's going to piss people off and then they're paying attention to him but he also said some things that make sense and he's a very good at debate is very good at arguing with uneducated people who just like automatically subscribe to left-wing ideas you can chop those up quick if you don't have your your thoughts dialed in and your argument. what is the solution hoping this is the this is the if I can but if we just be nicer to each other is the solution

and we need a break but we need a break with Whitley everybody can't be a political pundit like my aunt cannot be writing about trade on Facebook I think we just leave it all to Alyssa Milano your opinion out there it's super important and that's the way to be relevant now is to just be you know like be political all day everyday will you go from actor to activist very interested in getting good at this. Let's just be real you're just not thinking about myself my jokes like how do I get ahead how do I get on television for 3 minutes like so this idea that these people are now going to pretend that they've spent their entire career thinking about global warming and my friends were open for some of these Pete and I know that like these people going out there and they're like you know listen we got to do this we got to do that they got to move the country for but I've seen them make people cry backstage you to see door because there's not enough water in the dressing room so it's those same people that are really cruel going out and telling everybody how good of a person they are all the time they find the pattern to talk about Haitian they find whatever the line is where Hollywood wants whatever the line I always left and they f****** ride that line like a f****** Railroad train is 220 deviation oh my God you can't you don't have the money to pay your rent like you have no idea what's going on in the world and you're tweeting at Garcetti about the end they're doing it so that they can get a job they're doing it to the somebody can seem ago you know what he'd beat you know he had a great Garcetti tweet he should write on BoJack Horseman but I'm also terrified it's very we're going to die it has both of those things it's like he's laughing at how stereotypical everybody is terrifying if you disagree with somebody they are your anime in comedy and they want you to not have a job but I and I've never felt that way about it and I don't care what you if you're funny I truly don't care if you're out whatever whatever you are. You don't have any power it's not like you're affecting my life you can believe whatever you want if you're funny you're funny I don't like to say this in general I don't believe in generalizations they're they're the best I mean we need reservations, but more people on the left or doing this than people on the right yeah I don't see that many people on the right I see a few but he is many people the right calling can be able to get canceled forever for the people in the latter like burn their house burn them to the ground not without generalizations, but more people on the left or doing this than people on the right yeah I don't see that many people on the right I see a few but I'll write as many people to write calling to be able to get canceled forever cuz he's on the lateral like burn their house burned to the ground

right will do with the right I mean the qanon things kind of a way they're doing it where they're like David Spade's got an ankle bracelet on and leaking information about a shadow war that we don't really see happening and the shadow War involves Trump and the people on the side of lightness battling the you know these deep State pedophile pedophile cannibalistic I don't know why I like I don't never understood why they have to be cannibals they do cover up shade of high levels a hundred percent Pepsi stuff is 100% real Clinton's on that plane is on that island all over the world as you like the idea of real human trafficking but the idea that Donald Trump is fighting the human traffickers and the human traffickers are Alan he's a little while that everyone in Hollywood eating children tunnels under Central Park I mean it's hard to keep up with and the to drop so to speak are like these these you know they're like they're like poems or they're they're coded information so it's never like hey this is what you get these dropped let's not get too very real think the government shady is f*** a lot of the elites are doing things and getting a pedophilia and probably worse like some of those kids are probably did disappear but the idea that like that that Trump is fighting his underground war and it's all about human traffic I just don't think that's borne out by the fact that there's no facts to point I mean like friends with a cleanse for life it would be so hot character imagine this one thing is doing is the most noble thing that is ever done ever important I mean it's little and I've been around a few like really wealthy people this is how they talk when you say something bad anything bad if you go you know you know John's wife had cancer you know that kid at Addie we he's got a problem in a couple incidents are at Harvard I wish him well tee off it's just like I'm a conspiracy guy but this is exhausting. I don't care what you jacket the jacket I don't care do you was Ivanka doing the whole thing they could be season 1 like stroking your chin like a boss man you know Steve Bannon said something and there's a documentary about Errol Errol Morris made a documentary about Steve Bannon Steve Bannon said it's very interesting thing he said you know there's a guy out there was a horrible life like he's divorced his kids don't like him he has a shity job but when he plays like League of League of Legends World of Warcraft one of these game he's the hero in real life nobody really cares in the game show me people come out life is the real life so which of course it's the real one that you're living not this Fantasy game but I think the qanon thing I think the Trump Administration is like yeah let people believe they're hunting pedophiles online it gives their lives mean it let these people believe they're like hunting the clintons it's like fun video game for them which human nature don't believe that the Trump Administration has the resources to do that but they would really have to be encouraging LOL I think they may just pour a little gasoline on it that are mistakes like these these interviews that he does where he argue about s*** like he'll he'll argue about how well they're doing or what you know what's wrong or what he got ride or what is IQ is or how well he did at this intelligence test like anybody's playing like 3D Chestnut and just Crush I mean just he's really going by Instinct he's like a perfect he's perfectly suited for this era because he's like he he's hypnotizing like you start listening to him he can't stop like I'll try to watch one five minute clip of an interview I end up watching the whole hour because he's like there's a hypnotic thing that's going on you can't not listen predict era because he's like he he's hypnotizing like you start listing him you can't stop like I'll try to watch one five minute clip of an interview I end up watching the whole hour because he's like there's a hypnotic thing that's going on where he just has up and down and you just you can't not listen

it's like a beautiful name Isis Ellen's rough it is like an old but it's a rough one now it's a rough one now cuz she was running Abu ghraib in the back of her shell that's a rough one she's so nice people that are like that all the time it doesn't seem nice and very forest and whatever you're allowed to be a b**** why you're allowed to be bitching allowed to be nasty to people your accomplished or comedian you did the whole thing what you're not allowed to do is have a Guantanamo Bay situation in the back staircase of your show where everybody's walking around afraid for their life and it's like Abu ghraib where they're hooked up to wires and they yeah I'm with you I mean you know I would have bad she's around for too long to have all these people walk away even famous forever walk away like eventually everybody they're just going to figure it out now found on an apology door because the apology tour cuz of the black face like this well if you don't go away do my thing but like I'm not I mean it's only a few jobs so I think a lot of those jobs how long is it going to be dancing I can dance with Hillary Clinton Stephen Stephen Paddock who's that he was the guy that shot up the Vegas concert that was very weird how are you feeling how are you holding up it was a weird diagram of like and then he went to the left and the right it was very strange to put what the hell's going on this is a daytime show which is the paddock guy and there's two guys there why don't you just use your finger like if that was you it was your show the Yeah Yeah Yeahs looks like a member of her staff what kind of outfit you wearing I don't know if she wears a where's there's weird like militant lesbian to tell you with all those buttons like why do you have so many risks buttons he was giving her in Langley I'm trying to see is her house got broken into while she was at home realty do Place Montecito they broke in while she was there and those people still being tortured to this day probably still in an underground jail she's like it's okay don't worry about it got a survivor he's the guy I met Paddock she's holding on to his she's allowed to do that because she's a woman with a man holding on to a woman's arm that long I'd be raped

so you just decided to go out there did you previously have experienced Wisconsin, but I was in a car and then the people the riot started so I was in a car and a riot started and I literally instead of going back to my house trailer right on Sunset and instead of East 5 / every chain that this country is committed right to be like he probably did something right to deserve that so I'm out of here because I get lit up immediately and I'm not doing anything I can drive into do podcasts I can easily drive in how long does it take you to get here under 2 about 2 and 3 do any of the East coast East Coast is where I was born rich little bit placement of people and then I think this could be the route to the city and cool again to maybe younger artistic people coming in Architects doing cool s*** reimagining public spaces New York on the way to the comedy show you better kill you better make it work attention you better make it work if it's safe and you and your friends like skipping down the street you don't you don't ever feel that you no pressure right pressure is good and I think that now you're going to get it you know you better make it work with a lot of tension you better make it work if it's safe and you and your friends like skipping down the street you don't you don't ever feel that you no pressure right pressure is good and I think that now you're going to get it you know

double water bottle when water one protein shake got me all set up anyways good but most of the get to a point they want to take a break and then wants to take a break down all slides yeah it's a bit of both sometimes I want to take a break but then I want to get to that next level so then I can get back on it well you said it was Bolin right for sure he had to codeine will put a lot of weight on you what do you do for work out my trainer about 3 days a week sometimes two days a week and then on top of that and we'll do you know just different circuits back just you know whatever whatever legs and then then the other days I'm always just trying to make sure I hit the treadmill twice a day for 2 miles I've been playing games on Twitch and stuff like that so I feel like all that long I guess started a treadmill into Dave treadmill discipline good man you got your s*** together you look like you're about to lead your own show and I here sit like that and I'm like okay what you do you are very positive like you're you're very warm and friendly like all the s*** that you do online you're all smiling and be positive and friendly it's cool it's it's got it gives off a good vibe like when I look at your Instagram posts or Sunday post it's like a good path that you know cuz it's just it's so easy to go the other way and and you caught up in what other people are doing and what you think you should be doing which I battle all of that too so I don't ever try to act like all I'm just like I think I choose to support my friends I choose to support positive things because that's what I can control and Tumi fighting against that negative his supposed to like just joining everybody in The Fray to the negative and I've already but and that's why I have to balance what always helps me actually is talking to people like you were talking to people labor talk into any comedian that's been doing it like 20 years plus when I'm at like 14 now and when I talked to them and then they are like oh hold on so the f*** now man like look at where you are and what you're doing for how long you been doing it you play it out don't freak out in the that always Lionel and when I talked to them and then they are like oh hold on so the f*** now man like you look at where you are and what you doing for how long you been doing at your f****** Aces mental chill the f*** out and play it out don't freak out in the that always Lino having faith that always helps me out

you think you're going to wind up I don't know I text is very interesting amount that's a very interesting I mean do you have that is very interesting and I put up the bat signal for everybody that's very interesting to me I mean he's like Billy Carter because he was stealing things from the mall while they were leaders like leaned up against. I like that with that kind of money I said get more weapons get up get a bioweapons lab you should have it back coronavirus going 24/7 get anthrax good and I try to make that is funny is that can let me look around a lot of place of La like I don't really fit in with the actors and I'm not really one of these kids it's really hard to look at social media guy and then I'm not one of these, these writers that you know tweet about global warming a black you like my community of people which was the store and they stand up comedians are have now been like dispersed so it's like a weird YouTubers anybody what is these guys walk around you know like hypebeasts and is crazy shirts and everything just I'll be one of those guys just someone knock on my door wanted to look like I've had money and I've never look like it and there's a type of guy that's from a lot of them live in New York or Long Island or Boston by the way I look sunburned and they both Jelly's brother yeah yeah I mean but that's the look we have to look you dishonor the look the Izod look I remember when I was a kid and a fake izods we we couldn't afford a alligator alligator bulshit thing you buy from like you know something stupid Department guys would glue an alligator over it all really pressing

shotgun a few times I go upstate New York I should I mean I don't have a guy should get it I didn't think I need to go ahead and sit on my balcony with a gun and you know it seems relatively safe when I moved in people were annoying but I didn't kill me kill me but now that I got Centrist I believe in pedophile call Tin lizard people I think that's Centrist I think that's in the center but the pedophile culture real you're making a lot of it real or not real walk away like a truly like a lot of them have like a degree like you're a lawyer or doctor and then they use their skills to actually help people run and they give up really profitable career to do that s*** but dude your Twitter f****** posturing your virtue signaling doesn't do anything it's fake I know it's fake and there's just more to life than red and blue and Republican or Democrat and all these m************ are trying to kill you and they're all f****** loser and they're all just there more capable they pulled the CIA all these people they're just too good they're good they've beat me they're going to win they're going to win the cia's going to beat you maybe should join I don't know who needs to hear I'd love to but I don't know who needs to hear this but like stop investing your emotional and all your emotions in your your time and energy into this thing like you would be so much better off if you just found something you enjoyed and did it right but you don't want them taking away your rights and closing in on your email account are there any sure your voice there's no winning here most worried about with Portland Seattle at the end of the day you know I mean I don't know who you know this country is not designed for massive reimagining that's sad to say I can say I'm a comedian it is what it is but the reality is it's just not it's going to disintegrate like everything else that ever f****** is Justin on the planet and you just hope that it's the plane land slowly and doesn't nosedive into the ground but the the best days are over here the bright like the hopeful me an hour the moon. Stat. Really you don't think so I think we could be in a little bit of a blimp when we make a nice Resurgence in a year and a half from now everything so I can go I don't know I think we just had into a dystopian insane kind of like techworld where we just all live on can be like reality barely existent problems more interesting that's going to happen and listen most P here's the problem most people don't care they don't want these rights they actually don't you like them cuz you're like a successful person most people don't give a s*** about their rights they want pizza they want chicken wings that they want f****** soda they want cheap credit the one that's why they don't give a s*** about their rights they don't care they want Netflix and they want you no garlic knots and you can pretend like America's just not a country like freedom-loving there's a few of those people most people just like hey whatever and they're the happiest people a lot of those people I'm talking about are actually the happier people they're not trying to build an Empire they're not trying to succeed they just enjoy like putting something warm and do in their mouth and f****** wake up the next Bingo s*** I'm here again and they're the happiest people I don't know Lake and get railed up and Lugia and it's fun we just sit around all day worried about with darpa's doing it's like kind of like this. It's over this and happens to be hilarious and there's still food in the food stores that's a good point. it's not that bad as ends go as think as ends go this and happens to be hilarious and there's still food in the food stores that's a good point. I like your Optimus is a good end it's not a bad it's not the worst end

I want to see what happens when Joe Biden gets an office only a lot about have no clue, he'll run for a turtle live for call Vic Shelby Yachts cleaning all over the place if he does run for a second term he'll be in the 80s and you barely hanging on now probably unspoken but I think that's probably I think why he picked her is because she's everything and vital government the larger our centers of her happy with her that she'll throw minivans she'll brand you date a lot has her VP God only knows I mean someone else to share their values which are named running mate give me some when one arrives and what plans are being made for we talked about significant about the racial disparities that exist and how it is covid-19 is affecting the different races differently and we talked about the continued lack of PPE protective equipment and testing capacity in the like butt and I put out a comprehensive plan over the last Tremont Sean each of these things but today I want to talk about one thing very straightforward Democrats Republicans or Independents it has to do with a simple proposition every single American should be wearing a mask when they're outside for the next 3 months at a minimum every governor should mandate every governor should mend a mandatory mask-wearing the estimates by the experts are will save over 40,000 lives in the next 3 months 40,000 lives the people act responsibly and it's not about your rights it's about your responsibilities he seems to be getting better then they're injecting him with something when he's getting better we know that those individuals represent families loved ones grandparents parents just using Brothers aunts and uncles could have put in jail she's so upset because we could have put handcuffs on all of them choices Trump or this old fella like this is kind of the beginning of the people feel comfortable in there that will Collegiate Village shop who is he I don't know that it is patriotic to wear a face mask when there is nobody more patriotic than me your favorite President defeat Invisible Child virus many people say that it is patriotic to wear a face mask when you can't socially distance there is nobody more patriotic than me your favorite President

I want to see what happens when Joe Biden gets an office only a lot about have no clue, he'll run for a turtle live for call Vic Shelby Yachts cleaning all over the place if he does run for a second term he'll be in the 80s and you barely hanging on now probably unspoken but I think that's probably I think why he picked her is because she's everything and vital government the larger our centers of her happy with her that she'll throw minivans she'll brand you date a lot has her VP God only knows I mean someone else to share their values which are named running mate give me some when one arrives and what plans are being made for we talked about significant about the racial disparities that exist and how it is covid-19 is affecting the different races differently and we talked about the continued lack of PPE protective equipment and testing capacity in the like butt and I put out a comprehensive plan over the last Tremont Sean each of these things but today I want to talk about one thing very straightforward Democrats Republicans or Independents it has to do with a simple proposition every single American should be wearing a mask when they're outside for the next 3 months at a minimum every governor should mandate every governor should mend a mandatory mask-wearing the estimates by the experts are will save over 40,000 lives in the next 3 months 40,000 lives the people act responsibly and it's not about your rights it's about your responsibilities he seems to be getting better then they're injecting him with something when he's getting better we know that those individuals represent families loved ones grandparents parents just using Brothers aunts and uncles could have put in jail she's so upset because we could have put handcuffs on all of them choices Trump or this old fella like this is kind of the beginning of the people feel comfortable in there that will Collegiate Village shop who is he I don't know that it is patriotic to wear a face mask when there is nobody more patriotic than me your favorite President defeat Invisible Child virus many people say that it is patriotic to wear a face mask when you can't socially distance there is nobody more patriotic than me your favorite President

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call Lynn right from the job when you said I'm going to lose weight did you or did you vacillate did you know decision and I make it so my decision was made it was more like okay it's out of my hands I will do what my trainer says and that's it that's been the crazy thing cuz he recently he'll talk about other clients and you know I never comprehend that I could be like yeah I know I'm tired bucket you know I thought oh I'm paying you this is your job so I just listened to you you know and but I think you know some that way it's just me having a good attitude about it I don't once I was in it I was in it and then later came to think of like oh I have to mentally now undo like the fact that I was still want these things you know it was easier to just going to die but once a healthy way it was like okay now we have to deal with the mental aspect I went to the lake Overeaters Anonymous for a couple of classes I didn't like that you know talk about it but donut and then put it on top of the trash and then came back and got it and then had to put it deeper in the trash I can't physically go scuba diving they won't let me at my way so you know I'm just not interested in any of that you know and now it's like I don't do anything I wouldn't do you know who's pro wrestling school for a few months next ya think about going to college idea man I think you would kill it it clown what the f*** is clown school and what do you do as a lot of water bits some crop work out of nose honk and yeah documentary yeah I know about it I just watch the trailer for them like this motherfukers killing himself like the light bulbs and shut my whole life and decided I want to do it when I lost the weight I was not aware of what my body was capable of any more you know I was still be like pushing myself up off of things and my trainer be like what the fuc you're much lighter than you think you are my car got stopped working out the and one day they were just mad at us so they made us do I 375 Squad so that's a fun day the next day huh

vision board is Ultimate vision board the ultimate thing is a show and movies and stuff like that is there anything that you would have made manifest that's actually happened because his vision board off living in my apartment and what it does for me is just kind of the focuses me gives me direction instead of his being this guy who doesn't have his hands on the rudder or whatever the f*** the thing that steers until I got to get this house and so in order to get the house I had to stop just like not pay attention to my money I had to stop just buying random sneakers every week I had to start being like okay I need to build my credit had to pay these old bills from when I was 20 and didn't pay those off because I didn't think I'd ever have f****** money so who cares if I skip out on this rent you know I had to go back and do all these things so that I could get to that ultimate vision of getting the house and then we end up I have had my house for two years now f****** love it I put that I want to be on Reno 911 in there and II tape that I don't know if I got cut out or not cuz it's you know 6-minute quit everything but a lot of things I put on my vision board end up happening things that you f***** up like what made you brought you to that decision was just that I like dealing with with my ex-wife and things like that I had to go to therapy I had to start I wasn't trusting anyone I was like anyone who wants to hang out with me just because I have a little bit of money or because I've been a couple of shows it in that and which is so ridiculous and sometimes that would happen people will be hanging out with me just because they thought I could get introduced into a fun party or someone else cooler than me and I had to stop looking for that and in being so worried about that and I had to go and do just a mindset I think it's rapper I also really like Waka Flocka Flame many people talk about this change my mindset from survival mindset to a Thrive mindset of like oh I am okay I am fine so I can go ahead and just take care of this business I'm going to get more work I'm going to get more job because I've proven myself is not a fluke you know is not a one it's not a mistake that they 8 in hiring me then you know I'm going to be here what made you like what where did you come up with this idea to exert correct your mindset was it just like realizing personally that the way you're looking at things was wrong or did you read something or it was just mostly that things in my life are getting better but I wasn't getting happier I had more money I had anything I could buy video game wise all that stuff I was a bunch of sex happier I'm so lonely I still like not doing all the things I wanted to do hugs I was chasing things just for money you know and so I had to just kind of take a step back and go like okay like don't just Chase every single thing you see figure out what you really go back to the lake when you started stand up for like what do you want and I want it when I started stand-up was it be able to pay my bills and do the things I want to do and that hasn't changed was this a gradual process so you just realized you were sitting in this would not from Reading anything's just from you recognizing that something was wrong it was me and recognized something was wrong in me and me watching the people around me me with watching people with more success than me me watch just saying that like oh like okay I feel this way and I have this little bit of money maybe if I get more money I won't but then meeting people with millions of dollars and be like oh holy s*** like some people still don't have their s*** together no matter how much money they have and some people know who exactly who they are and they know what they want their they are at happy within themselves and I wanted to be that that's it's very interesting that you recognized it and made the adjustment you know that's a sign of a strong mind you were you able to recognize that the current patterns that you were operating under weren't weren't they weren't fulfilling your needs so you had to like a success but then also move forward to make a change does very difficult thing to do yeah it's difficult but not coincide with weight loss take you know like I came from just being a College Dropout with son over when I was 22 he was diagnosed with all his most 23 I don't have any money my ex-wife was more of a albatross around our thing like you know I have full custody of my son so it was just like I got to figure this s*** out and once that we had a little apartment everything okay I get my health together and that was a big ones as my daughter I tell all the time to diet exercise diet exercise you need to lose weight you need to get better you're going to die I tell this to the people all the time and you do you know how many my f****** patients have done anything about it and it's just you that's it you're the only one that I know that I've talked to about this who just done it through diet and exercise so you ever just like you have a strong f****** mind so I took that to heart and if I can do that if I can lose 100 sounds f****** throwing you know I work out throw up and in what you've been covering up a bad decisions that's all it's so true your doctor said and it's so interesting when you think about the goals that people have like one of the major goals if you asked Americans like what it what do you want to do besides be successful have a family have a career they want to lose weight but what I said the beginning this podcast you've done one of those difficult things a person could do cuz you didn't just lose weight you lost a fuckload of weight and he kept it off and that to me is so it's such a it's the craziest thing it seems like it's not like gaining weight Bryant like gaining weight requires you got to eat all that food like you got to like you got to really get after it like if you really want to gain weight man you got to f****** put on that you know you got to be there to eat you got to get it done people have no problem with that you know but then not eating you're literally asking someone to not do something just don't do something and it's harder to do than to do something yeah and then the exercise is maybe even harder to do than to not eat was it to really difficult things to do that you need to do both of them in order to really get your health in order in order to really lose weight and everybody knows it everybody knows it but nobody does it this is hard why am I doing this is like this is what you do because this is what you do and that hardest part is making that transition because you go through that first three weeks and you just like a f****** hate this you're looking at it back and we could go to Jim's you looking at other people attractive and I don't exercise I don't know in there so f****** proud of it you know I'm just like wow okay we'll see you in 10 years when you change your f****** mind and or are you just aren't successful so you know just got to be healthy so just get good at it yeah that's one thing I would tell young me you like everything I've done I might well that's my process and I'm glad everything I wouldn't change a thing the only thing I would have done is told young me like hey mother f***** if you want to be successful you just got to be healthy so just get good at it

when it's when it when it came to Yang I felt like hearing a guy who I'm not a big fan of UTI but I think the way he put it spoke more to me than the way anyone else ever framed it and I actually felt like he shouldn't have called at Universal basic income right but if he came with it Amazon Google is big companies becoming just insane behemoths that can't you know they can't be broken up absorbing absorbing absorb and there's an argument for some kind of dividends the American people for potentially what they do outside of United States it's it's very complicated economics I guess I'm not smart enough to you know pretend like I know anything about but you look at Royal drilling the people live in Alaska get a portion of that Revenue nonprofits that make sense you bi the way it's framed in general makes very little sense and it eventually I think we're actually seeing now with the government stimulus one of the biggest pitfalls to it to hear there's a there's a story there an NBC a woman for employees were like in Revolt because she acquired a a loan from the paycheck protection program that ensured their jobs meaning they would receive less money because under the cares act they would have received a bonus of $600 per week on top of the salary they normally get actually preferred to have lost their jobs so you have people who are complaining that they're keeping a job now so there's sometimes one insta there's a couple stories like that but the challenge with just giving people cash cash is the assumption that the cash has inherent value when the value of it is based upon what you can get for it so one of the lessons I think we learn now with the economy being shut down is doctors and nurses got to work you know that we need them on the front line they're also getting paid what do they use that money for pay their rent by food things like that we're facing food shortages if you can't buy with the money what's the point of taking the money I mean like if you were going to Choice you're going to work during to go work your job at a grocery store in a central worker going to pay for the bucks your buddy. You weren't there because the universal basic income was not designed to deal with a pandemic goes designs day with automation which way does not stop the supply chain which is not stopped which wouldn't have created food charges this is a sort of a unique situation so you're you're comparing apples to oranges you're applying Universal basic income to our current situation with nothing to do with the reason why he wanted to implement in the first place he's worried that automations going to take away jobs right it well it probably not well I consider this problem though there will always be some kind of essential work right essential worker when other people are getting money and don't work that you have no choice because your essential even in the automation system so let's say every job but they're only getting a small amount of money to stay alive you would rather have a good job where you getting paid well and if pets and all that other stuff I think that's an assumption of welfare like some you know these programs that are in place that automate all goods and services they take some of that money and give it back to the people cuz no one can work like that's a that's a depressing dystopian future man that's a terrible place to live you ever watch Battlestar Galactica yes love but there is one in episode of the movie just bring up two different bits of fiction to make a point because they have to move things around cuz if they don't have all human life dies so they literally go in the back and they take children away from their families women reject this in Battlestar they had children who are also taken for a similar reason to work you had people who had no choice but to work on the fuel processing ship otherwise all of many we wiped out what I thought about you know how do we get to a post capitalism world where we still have incentives but we're post we know Pro scarcity the problem is in it that were in transition there will be jobs are essential which means one of the one of the glimpses we get I understand it is different you still see a glimpse of people who have to work you know kind of low-skilled boring tedious jobs like a grocery store wow other people who have higher skill jobs are getting their their needs met by the government at least in terms of the cash so we're here telling you know these people right now are told your job is not essential so we're going to guarantee your your food and resources for the time being you are entirely doing that the soundtrack is effective I'm just I'm just saying that as we move towards automation there will still be jobs that are essential what do we do how do we you know incentivize and compensate make that worth that people have no choice but to keep working while the rest of us don't I don't know if it's a keep working while the rest of us don't issue I think it's a problem of jobs being phased out I think the real problem is automation is going to phase out job is not going to be about what's essential was not essential I think you started applying pandemic what's what's removed from it and let's say yeah right now what one of the things I looked at it we talked a little bit before I met a homeless guy in Chicago and you worked at a job that became obsolete back like 1980 told me that you had a job for 20-30 years older is family you know the way lost contact after different times some friends and family I died when his company became obsolete technology that matter he was cast out you know we're working toward his expertise was very specific so he got a severance package that right now you got an appointment that ran out and got kicked out now he's homeless I look at that nice a how do we make sure that doesn't happen this guy should not be punished simply because times have changed but if you scale that up you know and take keeps happening at every different sector eventually you'll end up with 90% of population saying my needs will be taken care of and 10% saying I still have to work whatever the industry maybe like what best best traditional. Going to be very difficult we oughta make most jobs at Zephyr some some people will have to work does anybody really think you went to automate most jobs though I mean there's so many jobs at Camp emotivo automated weird sort of futuristic and housing and everything else you got to do on your own if we're looking at when we look at struggle right we look a struggle like across the board can't feed yourself can't put a roof over your head can't lose what was attractive but Universal basic income to make what if we all agreed that some semblance of dignity is a part of being an American and then we will provide you with food we provide you with housing everything else you have to f****** learn and that's everything else you have to f****** learn and that's interesting interesting I like that I like it but I don't know people don't work well when they don't have to exactly when people don't have an incentive in the competition is important

do something today I wanted you to see Jamie it's some thing there's some s*** going down with UFO sightings oh yeah yeah before yeah but new Pentagon formally released three mysterious UFO videos captured by Navy Pilots the already leaked video showed what. Insist on calling unidentified aerial phenomenon moving at incredible speeds and Performing near impossible Maneuvers this is a weird subject because it's one of those subjects were people automatically dismiss it because it's been it's been so touted by koox to somebody wacky talked about UFOs that anybody talked about UFOs has to be out of your f****** mind but then when you see these videos and you see them performing these impossible tasks like things are moving in a way that we've never seen anything move before flipping upside down and sideways moving an insane rates of speed like they don't know what these are ya and they possibly mention that the siding was near a technology on a US Naval like technology station of some sort of like a top-secret development and I'm like things either right it's developed by the people that are at that base or they're monitoring the people that are at that base these aircraft we call them aircraft are displaying characteristics that are not currently within the US inventory nor any foreign inventory that we are aware of maybe they see the ships going down with China and all the be moved in like listen to f*** heads aliens yeah maybe like listen you f****** morons territorial Apes I'd like to think that but I don't think so Manhattan Project man I mean the US has probably got some crazy but the Manhattan Project was also coincidentally right after they start detonating bombs in the alien start showing up after they think right yeah well that was one of the bulk of us sightings started jumping and worldwide iblee to maybe we weave slowly getting more and more information about this I've been actually bring a lot of the stories of the past several months more admission from government release of documents and more sightings so there's been a big well a lot of people murmuring that April was going to be the month when we finally learned the truth April's almost up forsining which ones that so this was like thinking like oh six at Chicago's International O'Hare UFO came down and hovered above I think it would external terminal it was a few minutes I think and then shot straight punched a hole in the clouds everybody saw it happen now I had just quit working at O'Hare around this time when deciding happened so I had friends were still there I had a friend tell me that when this UFO came down people on man Road where which is the road on the side of O'Hare got out of their cars by just stop the light. Up and we're looking and staring at it and the people were or working where we work we were for American Eagle Airlines walked out of the room and we're just staring at it float and then shoot up and punch a hole in the clouds and if they said weather phenomenon like very early phone camera has a very grainy awful picture that's that's not it no these are all people trying to fake it's really hard to find that one is not that one might be it but I don't think so it barely looks like cargo O'Hare UFO sighting 2006 is that it right there I do not believe those right now so it will click on that article and not working it was a very very faint photo from up from the cockpit it might be that one right there in the middle on the left side for might be that well there was a really crappy photo of it and that might be that might be is a really it was out of the cockpit of a window up I'll take a photo and you know what I wonder where have all the sightings gone since phones became ubiquitous I mean this is a simple you know excuse the aliens are sentient they know we have found there like okay. You know decloaking or whatever but I want or I wonder if you know why is there so many UFOs in there on the time cell phone cameras come out like on most people are full of s*** therefore aliens don't exist I think aliens could be real and people are full of s*** and I think that it could be it's very rare that they visit us but if they do like how often do scientist go to the Congo to study Champs I mean how many people did they send let me let me the bottom of the ocean to look for new life-forms how rare is it let me check you out what if you've actually met a decoy person maybe you bro maybe it's me that's right that's why you're able to work so much shut up was hanging out with the decoy I might could you imagine like you seem like a duck decoys in the water with your duck calls and the ducks like who wouldn't fly honey I might come over and check this out in Sandalwood block could you imagine like seeing like a beautiful woman or someone you're attracted to a decoy just to like probe you in like better understand or something well the decoy just to term decoys weird because D chords are used for hunting like turkey is turkey season right now guys hunt for turkeys to take a rubber turkey you put that f***** out in the middle of field and then you hide behind a bush with a shotgun nothing about putting things up your butt the most doctors don't even do that like to have MRIs now aliens need to probe you in your ass I think it's just what everyone's afraid of their afraid of things going there a so that's what they they think is going to happen if the aliens get them in the freezer somebody and it was the most Sensational version everybody had to have it so they were like that's what they want with you know maybe or maybe they do that to keep your mouth shut yeah and he comes back and he's like they think they won against me I think they beat me they put up with my but they're weirdos. Everything of Betty and Barney Hill now it's the very first UFO Abduction story it's an ancient story and with crazy is Angela Hill who's the UFC fighter I had her on the podcast and after the show she told me her Grandpa was Barney Hill flow and I was like holy f*** UFOs but the account that they have I did get hypnotized and he's recalling the abduction and they have like the same story is very terrifying to hear him crying and screaming and another that he was taken aboard this craft and examine then brought back and they have missing time but here's the thing if they only did that occasionally the only came down once every few years and just scooped some person up in the middle of some rural place I give your flying over me and I think they're instance was in believe it was in Maine have your flying or somewhere like me which is a very low population state and UC alone car and it's his traveling on the highway and this places in Maine will you go from like Portland to Bangor when you're traveling on that road it's like 60 miles with nothing not a gas station nothing if you were at a lien you saw a car by itself why not cuz we don't have the capability of doing something like that I don't think I don't think the capability of the scientist working for the government is any different than the capability to science scientist that are working for you know Project X or you know it would fill in the blanks in terms of like what Raytheon the publicly traded companies how long quadcopters take take that concept use thinner you know Jets and surrounding the desk so that it's you know universally like I can move in any direction because it's got you know it can only go for a mean you get 307 miles if you drive like a grandma but if you drive like a maniac you don't even get half that you know that they are I'm pretty sure they had this flying platform in the 70s that uses gas power and they sort of like 30 seconds the whole thing was the fact they were burning gas and to propel you in the air they only had a certain amount I thought I was like 20 minutes 20-30 minutes maybe now my understanding of why we abandon jetpack technology was that it was inefficient and heavy and you couldn't carry it without it being turned on so they opted for larger like you know like where they called Chinooks helicopters that can carry multiple people at once when you're wearing a jetpack on weight which means that you're walking around which means you get a good 20 minutes. Abandon the tech thieves steal his radio show and he had this guy who is a jetpack pilot who came in and in the parking lot the radio Studio you know fans of the radio show came and did it to and watched it rather and this guy flew in the air for about 15-20 seconds and then landed this guy was so banged up both of his legs were blown apart he had he had big braces on both of his knees I'm like what happened you need he's like just crash landing both my knees are blown to s*** head no ACL and either one of those bees the flying to is if you take something like a quadcopter you can absolutely feel it with with no gas or what allowed as f*** it went but it would it would depending on how you like that these people are describing things that are silent that go from 0 to a thousand miles an hour in a split-second the things that defy physics as we understand this is not something that I think that the US government has I don't know if you looked like okay like Elon Musk company Project X or SpaceX SpaceX is right now one of the Premier civilian company private companies that's making rocket if they f****** all the time they're in the middle of innovating all the time he's one of the smartest people on Earth he's one of the terms of Technology he's what he knows as much about propulsion is anyone and they still can't get it right there still trying to figure I was trying to come up with something that could be viable in terms of commercial spaceflight and they're working on it daily and these these people are the brightest Minds we know of right now they're in this jet propulsion space travel business there's you no virgins working on something as a couple other companies that are working on things as well and then you have NASA which worked did the best I could come up with was the Space Shuttle do you think that there is something way better than space shuttle they just never use they had and they played Captain on the backburner didn't want to let anybody know but the way they would use it as they would pick people up and erase their memory and exhorting with her a****** that's crazy likely than the hundreds of billions of galaxies just in our own Universe write each one with hundreds of billions of stars each star with who knows how many f****** planet that's somewhere out there that's something more advanced than us maybe a thousand years a million years has figured out how to come here then why hasn't anyone discovered them white why is said he failed search search for guns really recent and we going to use lights high power radio transmission is only in the past hundred years or so right contact with space and with aliens how it's going to go. today actually when the 1st broadcast signal was Hitler announcing the Olympic Games to start the Harlan games and this was the first signal they got is that really controversial Moana movie or controversy it you know him the plot with that once they trying to decipher the image that was being sent to realize it was Hitler the first thing they see is a swastika I know what the f*** is that image that we sent out to space they wouldn't be the political or historical context of this and I got a few pictures I see in terms of aliens and Earth contact right we are substantially more connected to ants then we are alien so we can't communicate with them for the most part we have can we understand how they communicate but when ants he's a super highway highways right above us we can't tell what it is same as a dog doesn't understand other than stay away or one of the issues I I think it's often neglected in the conversation with aliens is the we assume aliens would be a very similar planet to us we assumed that they would have some kind of gaseous atmosphere practice of liquid atmosphere and one of the things that I would ask me to be like fire which allows us to separate elements and then create computers and components and fuels wouldn't exist on a planet without the same you know catmosphere we existed to stop by their own propulsion system for any of these crafts these things are not using fire they don't have a heat signal there they don't know what they are they don't know how that works out I don't mean propulsion I mean the separation of elements the manipulation of elements right so we melt things and separate them and break them down they don't believe it that's how it works how do you even start from answer you know about species that lives on a planet with no oxygen has an excess of fire what energy like what dance energy source do they have that will allow them to manipulate matter do you know the robbers are the bottles are story I do well one of the things that he talked about when he first stopped working for area as for the government was tapping his phones and you know this is a lot that can be documented about him there's a lot that can't be but one of the things that he talked about was a thing called element 15 Element 115 this insanely dense element that they use to bend gravity and that the way he described the way the propulsion system works it's like putting a bowling ball in the center of a very soft mattress and that all of the other matress all the rest of the mega the mattress bends around the intense mass of the bowling ball and it this is how these incredibly Advanced aliens from this other planet use this is their propulsion system that was being used some Star Trek though warp was around for a really long time the concept is based on Einstein's theory of gravity I mean this is the whole idea if you could find something that could do that but here's the thing when Bob Lazar talked about this in the late 80s early 90s this element didn't exist right now does it wasn't it wasn't proven until they did it in a particle collider I believe that 2013 was talking about this element before it was it was any apparently this is the big rumor he apparently had taken some of that from a lab and through George Noory and it was a George Noory yes they did some experiments on on television and showed that this stuff had made light and fog band in a way that they couldn't describe a small alien creature that was sitting down but he doesn't it was a model that they were using like if they'd created something that was supposed to be the size of a thing that could fit in these crafts because he's crap she said we're design for things that are far smaller than human beings I'm pretty sure and initial interview he gave when he went public was that he saw an alien and then later on changed it saying I don't know if it was maybe a model or a puppet yeah he said he thought he saw something sitting down and two people standing over it looking at it he said he thought he saw an alien you know he's probably mean Milwaukee said it was literally for like a half a second I got walking by a window and he see something inside of it being a guy was in your twenties and you're a propulsions expert and it's been proven he worked at Los Alamos labs has been proven they did put a f****** PS4 and they show you this thing that you know doesn't even exist and they tell you propulsion method that they don't understand and they say that they found this a long time ago in an archaeological dig and they want you to back engineer it because you're a propulsions expert and they're running out of options they've been studying this for decades no one knows what the f*** it is or how how you can make it work and then they do test flight to this thing and then he tells his friends about these tests flights after he gets fight you know I got fired story about him getting fired so when his wife is f****** a flight instructor they told him he couldn't work anymore he's like why not while they were tapping his phone because when you have top-secret clearance to work on UFOs I guess they don't want your fight you or your wife f****** her flight instructor and you're going to go crazy and you have a lot of imbalance at home right so he doesn't know why they don't tell him why so he takes his friends and he tells them list this is business real they're running these experiments I know you think I'm crazy this is what I've been working on so he takes to this area where you used to be able to have access to but once he did this they closed off access and pushed it far back to where the public has access to and he showed them these things doing these impossible Maneuvers in the desert in the night sky that I remember and so then he gets arrested and 20 gets arrested he was a fear he was in fear of his own life he goes public until this whole story and then they erase is past their race is social security number the erases education background even though people that knew him and knew he worked at Lowe's clabsi take George Noory of a tour of Los Alamos labs knows the people that work there they all say hi to him he takes the motor around the laboratory shows them around shows them the the devices that use for biometric security and I think the one thing you can't ignore is that he there was there was documentation that he did work in one of these places paper like we sounded like he clearly was there who's in the employee right now but but you do for me I'd love to believe it all he's been insanely consistent about that story for 40 years I want to believe lyrics I'm more so joking right with any Theory people want something to be true and so they end up looking for things to justify what they think it already is of course instead of starting with what you got trying to figure out where it goes from there but when you start with what you've got you've got a guy who was living in Vegas was taking these flights out to area S4 knows the place no inside-out can describe it very accurately also worked at Los Alamos somewhere else and they're trying to figure out how to work it thing that has come from somewhere else and they're trying to figure out how to work it how to use what if I run a simulation and this was something that was left over code or you know wasn't supposed to be placed in this curtain decoration or multiple Dimensions that we don't have access to and that these things do

the conversation that dude about the Sphinx was like 9000 BC or something with this is Graham Hancock and or Robert schoch Robert schoch who is a geologist at Boston University is actually taken the time to examine the erosion around the outside of the Sphinx of the Sphinx itself has been worked on a lot this has been a lot of Rehabilitation of the pause they should rebuild it which is kind of a shame but it's it's made out of a sort of a soft Stone eroding in falling apart and when they found the Sphinx like when Napoleon found the Sphinx it was buried was buried understand so this is the thing that had been buried and Andre exposed many times they think throughout history and what Robert schoch and found in discovering this the temple where the Sphinx was carved in the area that surrounds the Sphinx was as deep fissures in the walls that were indicative thousands of years of rainfall the problem with that is the last time there was rainfall in the Nile Valley was 9000 BC right right so they're dealing with like and you have to go back thousands of you or nine thousand years ago maybe 7000 BC when you have to deal with thousands of years of rainfall prior to that too great that so that means that this was something that was clearly carved by man has thousands of years of rainfall that eroded it and you're dealing with it . where the last time they had this rainfall in this area was thousands of years before they think people were even capable of building things like this was a lizard people theory about the super intelligent dinosaurs Underground planet and after they destroyed it and then receded and we lost our way of life is possible it look if we're going to go to Mars like what is the f****** origin tail going to look like a hundred thousand years and that once we go to Mars climate change with a very small crew of how many people do you know have some checks though I think I'm going to populate the Earth right so it's got to be men and women and the people are going to have to be boys heterosexuality is going to be favored yet cuz you're really can't have gay people that are going to breed you know you have two lesbians like all we need you all to have it only populated by lesbians well there's no over there I was reading that they're going to go with people who are already coupled and they're going to let you know can couples or whatever I don't know about you specifically but that was my wife swapping going on in space made it talk about that too I was reading like that the most optimal theory for colonizing Mars would be like all the cameras people something like 10 people already coupled not at their polyamorous what they expect there's going to be commingling but I truly expect commingling but we've got and then Earthwise itself out runaway greenhouse we can control things nuclear war whatever the planet becomes a desolate Wasteland there's no more communication to those who are on Mars so the last remaining you know hundred or so people who are now on Mars the adults to remember right. A book hears everything happened really shouldn't shouldn't do here's how we lived and they give their kids another kids never experienced nothing about it in fact those kids only have a fleeting image of a technology that they once had two more Generations down cold pack where we used to colonize Mars now decaying and falling apart then I'll get it fix it the original colonists are dead go down three more generations and I got a few thousand humans start moving off looking for resources and no one has any idea Earth even was a real thing other than stories they heard about the military leader in the in the in the orbitals orbital space station whov long since died so now they have this book they don't fully understand their languages now changing as they separate from each other and find different areas of the planet now English or whatever language they were speaking becomes 10 different languages Buck now it's a thousand years later than the universe existed and they have this weird book about the way things used to be and now of the billions of being on our 10020 thousand years in the future and they find you know these old ancient relics and they're like I wonder what if you don't even smoke pot there's a group of people from Africa that actually does the dogon to do John people that would his dogon people and they they talk about the very specific area of Mars where human beings came from and they have a really weird understanding of cosmology like they know some things that they like and their origin story said people were living on Mars and that they destroyed Mars and how to escape Mars and come to Earth negative sort of a very similar version of it and now when you add that to what they know about Mars that Mars used to be like a hospitable place to tell Auntie water over the new planet or terraforming what kind of government would exist let's say Earth has wiped out the only survivors an orbital space station over Mars the small, and the base it's going to be a military dictatorship not intentionally not from this evil perspective but from a you're the general your second-in-command we've always operated swetha military Mission are the persons in charges in charge and then eventually you build up the colony to a certain point where second and second in command or one of the favorite Lieutenant says it's time to enact democracy and the general says f*** no and then a civil war breaks out in the heavens people on the ground watching the shoot each other in blood feather up and then all the technology gets wiped out you should really start smoking pot but this is a lot of ways to interpret like various ancient spiritual religious texts science fiction you kind of way so I actually talk to my friends about this we like kind of what if what if the Bible and you know the Old Testament were viewed from a science-fiction perspective not be justified, but like what if we try to apply a lens I'm a futuristic perspective of our understanding technology to how they may have viewed what was going on back then they come back or whatever another question is what would we do if we destroyed around Planet like people say we are and how would that how would that you know result in a government house stories you'll be so funny if we destroy this planet we go to Mars and repopulate Mars and fix it up and then destroy that place come out what's going on right now during this pandemic the skies are clear than ever before the Venice canals in Italy of dolphins and I'm now you could be a crowned jellyfish you realize it's a different world now imagine that's what happen if we go to Mars with f*** that place up come back to earth look it's fixed we're back you know I guess if we can sustain our technology story of Pain if you can't it's a it's a weird thing in terms of like the cosmology like what they understand in this is you know relatively primitive tribe that has this origin story was like the end of Battlestar have isn't very good at all sentence with them discovering habitable planets with spoiler alert spoiler alert with a species that's compatible with them they find primitive humans and so if that story you know some interesting story we would lose all knowledge of the previous planets and technology and will imagine if we flew to another planet for the first time we've landed there and it's like 1940s America what if what if we find a spaceship underground with ancient Tack and we don't know what it is and turn that SARS the dogon tribe the nommo and they're fascinating Cosmic knowledge deep in northwest Africa more precisely in Maui we find one of the oldest Most Fascinating ancient cultures to develop on Earth so the ancient dogon tribe is known for their religious Traditions ritual dances their massive ritual mask their wooden sculptures in their architecture however they're also known for their in astronomical knowledge and they're fascinating mythological accounts the dogon have a compelling ancient tradition they mentioned myths and legends that go thousands of years into the past predating possibly even their own history some authors like Robert schoch was also the guy from Boston University he's a geologist to talk to at the spank argue the dog on where people who originated in Africa though who'd been forced to leave ancient Egypt due to their religious persecutions and it is in his opinion dogon May preserve ancient Egyptian traditions and myths that may even have been carried into the present age claiming that the dogon have a powerful Cosmic connection I can go on for this will take too long to read but you seem Zeitgeist where it where you know the first time he talks about the three kings of Orion's Belt pointing to the star in the east before the sun rises in the third day maybe maybe their stories are just just that you know we could we do but stare at the sky and just stop and look if you were traveling across the country as you are did you get a chance to stop and look in the middle of nowhere at the at the sky Golf Course there's a story that I think in Los Angeles the power went out the black on the 90s and the police got tons of calls from people who didn't know what they were seeing this guy it was a Milky Way galaxy those same people that are injected twice all right now calls from people who didn't know what they were seeing in the sky it was the Milky Way galaxy those same people that are injecting Lysol right now

my favorite I want to call the conspiracy theory about my favorite stories is Humanity emerged on Venus and that we destroyed the planet with the greenhouse effect so we created the ark project and took the DNA of two of every animal and loaded up on us on the last vessel the ark and went to terraform Earth and that the dumbest idea how many copies of those things do you make before they eat each other what what people do I think it's a fun story they argue that the Bible was like the stories being told and retranslated over hundreds of years to A Lost Civilization that only one ship escaped the destruction of their planet and I'm not saying it's true it's a fun story I love that story sort of colonize the solar system are colonizing Galaxy I agree and I think if we don't discover about a repulsion then hard chemical energy we're not going to do it so that's why this is so compelling this idea that they're using some element that apparently is impossible to find here you can only created with a particle collider but maybe in whatever solar system they are coming from you have a very different environment and maybe this element was the primary source for fuel maybe they figured that out a long time ago I wonder if I'd love to talk to an actual physical about this if there's only with negative density what's that mean so like you know things of density create an attraction through gravity because they they the pressure like the help their their influence on space-time I'm not an astrophysicist so I can't explain to you perfectly but you know the larger than more dense the object the more pull it has a very dense black hole sucks you in then you know Mars has thing again despite being out for this inside just laughing right now what a moron but negative density something that would actually have a report effect in terms of gravity in which case you could have some kind of object with where you can control X panic and tracked density so that you're pushing and pulling I don't know but Bob Lazar as prospective is if we showed a nuclear reactor to a civilization from the Fourteen hundreds they would think we are doing witchcraft they would think it is absolutely the craziest thing that anyone has ever seen or heard they would try to tamper with it I'll get radiation poisoning and die they'd never be able to figure it out in a million years if you just left it with them if you left some sort of a nuclear reactor with them and your he said this is really how far Advanced he believes these these aliens whatever you want to call them are that they're their science their technology is indistinguishable from Magic cuz they're so far ahead of us do you think they'd wants to be involved with us behind you're suggesting that I wouldn't do we study butterflies we study mice we study we study bugs in the other side of the planet we send people unscientific Journeys to go and look at the Frog short or even sure are real anymore are we giving guns to temps are we are we building forts for them and teach him to use down and I mean we've seen now there's more to this coming out showing Stone Age gap on a regular basis are we going to go and teach them that our culture I mean do we drink are chimps things all the time Tarzan just jacking fish eating lobsters we would be absolutely happens because people are trying to improve an initial designs that why they try to prove an improvement initial design they try to make things that are better make things that are more efficient make things that I can do tasks that they can't do without these tools and then they their curiosity and their creativity causes them to expand upon his ideas of course if something's going to be so far Advanced They didn't accept their current place in the universe they don't even accept the fact they want to stay on this planet they want to travel to other places you know f****** insanely curious you have to be to lock you and three of your other three foot buddies and a giant f****** Flying Saucer and Propel yourself through space Oh yeah we get to have to be incredibly curious incredibly but they would have to be thinking about things be exploring things and of course you would want to come to a planet that is filled with people who have hundreds of different languages they're all full of s*** they lie to each other constantly send videos through the air they have weapons that they could blow each other up with I mean of course you would be faster open this way I think if we saw like a group of chimps standing near a water water bed and then one champ fashion some kind of bag and pulled it over Ted jumps in the water and try to go as low as you can for as long as I can before coming back out we would look at that like that is the stupidest attempt at scuba diving I've ever seen but oh my God it shipped just tried to scuba dive so if there are aliens and amazing we're likely to die in there like in stupidest attempted actually going to space space space station it's up there and live on it they shoot themselves that they were very crude form of propulsion but they figured it out because they don't have Element 115 in their environment naturally so these dummies have to light things on fire and use a push off the back of it to shove themselves through normal air and you know why they're not going to give us at Tech right now why would they give us why why didn't I say give us to buy they wouldn't have been able to give us Tech why would any good luck if if if they came down and went to Russia and said here's anti-graft repulsion we think Wes is going to do all right our planet now they're going to immediately expand rapidly their their populations going to grow exponentially and it's going to cause massive turmoil between nuclear power to destroy themselves bodies like maybe that's the key to to stopping war in the North no incentive whatsoever for people to be sexual or attractive everybody looks exactly the same we get over this idea of biological mating they reproduce through genetic engineering why not just be robots I just finished season 2 season was awesome but basically they have a thing called a stack you said you finish season 2 season 1 is awesome that means season 2 sucks season 2 the C plus plus plus yeah sleeves and they kind of don't care when they die because they just get you know it's if you're poor you get really crappy sleeves right but if you're if you're rich you get premium axe military upgrade like high-tech very strong but their body is just become separate and you can also transport your Consciousness Interstellar like other planets and then you wake up in a body on different planets that's how you go places now your Consciousness travels so yeah I mean maybe aliens do that maybe there's there's not I find the idea of the various alien life but body is curious one of the one of the things I've read about is that it could be human from the future I think about what we look like as opposed to like what a champ looks like and then you keep going further with that like all they had will get bigger the bodies and get weaker and then look there's a sort of a trend in this society today to do to be less masculine less feminine more gender-neutral and they them pronouns maybe that's all just part of the programming into another one of the globalists is that in order to get access to alien planet aliens are going to give one world order in order to get alien Tech you think the Galactic Federation is a planet in which is got numerous governing bodies and nuclear weapons play with us Russia or China and so the argument that was one of the theories is that interest on the United States have access to the aliens know that they have to do everything their power to unify the entire plant under one Authority so that we can be entered into whatever alien you know access would exist but so long as we are nuclear-powered competing territorial factions they can't do it and one of the things that I find interesting is that when it comes to this argument about removing masculinity there's this kind of overlap with this idea of domestication you think about wolves Pro dogs and dogs dogs are effectively wolf cubs perpetually so wolves are aggressive territorial independent independent assented like free with you where they don't your interview following you know so an adult masculine tough human is going to be like I'm independent I'm in charge they've got to remove that and domesticate us so you get a bunch of weak effeminate genderless humans who are going to be passive docile and agreeable and what dogs are used to be what men are now I was thinking of this really cool idea for a sci-fi film where aliens come to Earth and most Humanity except domestication and then 300 years from now you've got regular looking 24 Century kind of men and women but then you have these five-foot-tall super armor jetpack with plasma rifles that love and serve the aliens and we view them as freakish genetic defects so have you seen like Oblivion with Tom Cruise yes the aliens basically genetically engineered a whole bunch of Tom Cruise's that's cool I love it very good movie if if aliens came to Earth and most humans agreed and then overtime that the humans that got access to life-saving technology special armor were the ones that were agreeable and less likely to be aggressive wolves don't like versions of humans you know desperately in love with the aliens you know eat those dog like people the way wolves eat dogs well for the sake of of a fiction know we wouldn't have them do that sneaky smaller 9. I guess our species I'm saying like they think they really never got domesticated yeah that's what's interesting it's like they're coyote version of human right Maurice Vidal Portman who is a pervert / explorer who you know would measure dicks and detailed descriptions of people's anatomy and genitals something about like you do realize the aliens who come to Earth Arthur cool nerds want to like talk science it's their the rich assholes who thought their planet and dipping out us a silly way to look at it from the future like what benefit would it be to get richer and all of these they have their giant heads and they can travel this flight like this is this is why I really don't like I think it's Hawking's argument that we shouldn't we should be excited about aliens because whenever I'm more powerful civilization approaches it a weaker one they dominated in Moline what would he be saying is like you know when when the Europeans came to North America and spread disease and then stole lands are wiping everybody out like when when when I'm work van civilization be so you know you know I don't think that at all it's like why not the way I approach would be more like a gigantic vessel coming down and just slicing a skyscraper in half and stripping on the copper and elements while ignoring the people and when we go to a habitat for a we're not going to like haha will kill all the squirrels where I can take a lumber squirrels be damned so we going to have a task for other creatures live take what we want and we don't care about the animals we don't we Farm we kill all the mice in a little critters and every don't care so I don't like the I don't think they are going to make sense that at more advanced civilization come to Earth and be like haha humans now you will serve us and it's all real and now they would completely ignore us and just start taking stuff in crushing us and ignoring us it wouldn't be but I don't I don't think that's the most likely scenario either I think any ice sufficiently Advanced enough to travel the massive size of the universe would have little need for the Primitive elements on a planet be easier for them to go to any other Rock like this might be an incredibly rare place we are incredibly rare as far as everything we've been able to observe they might come here because they found this Goldilocks plant that has liquid water and incredible biodiversity and more life than any other place on Earth you know that was that that's a multiple orbit for a planet that every 300 years comes in, comes in close orbit the Earth has elliptical around our sun and he's widely been criticized by other Scholars who understand ancient Sumerian website called stitching is wrong season go to it's itching is wrong. Calm because all the wack-jobs like me the who love the idea of you know all that's why we're selling the gold man right because the aliens use the suspended gold particles in their atmosphere real use of chemicals and toxins is destroyed their environment do stitches itch in is wrong. Cam is an interesting website and I don't know who's right or who's wrong and I think if you want to go over the Anunnaki and the ancient with what's really interesting and not just about sitchin but about sumare in general is one thing is they had these tablets is Clay tablet that had a depiction of the Galaxy or the depiction of the solar system are you talking about 6000 BC they have this depiction of the solar system that shows the sun in the center and it shows all the planets in our known galaxies are known solar system with a proper perspective in terms of the size of the planet and the proper distance like they're in the right places it's not like there's a big one really close to the Sun and there's a little one three planets out like see if he could find that it's a weird image see that's the image that zecharia sitchin had was that they were trying to tell us that they have come from this other planet and they were trying to explain to us what our solar system is but just the fact they have this sun in the center and then they have all the planets that we know of circling the Sun and this has been criticized our goal and all they didn't do it right into it first of all day did it in clay okay so relax there so it's so goddamn clothes that you would have to say and that might be what that is and if that is what that is what are they trying to say with this thing because there's also an image from a clay tablet of a very large being that has a very small human like being with a monkey tail on it slap and this is what situation points to as some sort of a depiction of the genetic engineering that took place to turn primitive primates into human beings this is the reason why we are so dumb print from every other animal on this planet and the real thing that when when people talk about aliens and alien Kelly what would aliens be doing here why would it what if human beings are the product of accelerated Evolution like what if they came down here they found this incredibly Rich planet is filled with biodiversity and all these different life-forms and then they found these primates and like we know where these factors are going like this is us 10 clean years ago or whatever the f*** is let's accelerate this little party let's inject some of our super Advanced DNA into these primates and let's see let's see where it takes itself so we think that's a fun story they told Bob Lazar but Bob Lazar said I don't know if they told me that to throw us off the trail if it's disinformation or was just some wacky thing that they came up with to just like I have a crazy story that the scientist tell anybody so if you do tell people like what do you working on I'm working on reverse engineering and propulsion system from an aircraft that came from another planet and by the way right we are product product of accelerated Evolution they came to us and they injected are DNA and notably like abrahamic this idea that we were created that we were told we shouldn't should do certain things so things are fun stories but yeah you could look at the idea of someone being the Son of God you know hybrid right yeah you can look at the stories of regular Genesis taking the rib of Adam crave so you know I got a lot of heat for my more religious friends for pointing that out that I believe the Bible is more likely than odds base to be about aliens and about the actual creator of the universe and I'm talking clots like ridiculously astronomical but I think we actually know some things exist Janet make relation cargo Cults we know how how primitive life form reacts to more advanced technology understand and that would make more sense to me then you not believing in a hard religion about the Creator and you know Carpenter something like that we're dealing with translations that was told as an oral tradition for a thousand years before that but boy the saying hard-and-fast exactly what they meant in the Bible what this means and what must have happened for them to write that down to me is just Bonkers I mean who who knows but what we do know is that the older the stories get the weirder they get like that's one of the weird things about the ancient Sumerian taxes of you or your dealing now you're in like the 6000 years ago range which is what we do know is that the older the stories get weirder they get like that's one of the weird things about the ancient Sumerian taxes of you who you're dealing now you're in like the 6000 years ago range which is really weird like that's a long f****** time to go

I worked for you know one of these companies they told me to side with the audience we talked about it last time I was here they wanted me to create a narrative that the audience agreed with because we were there to serve them young progressives whatever they say so social justice so whatever young progressives say are you saying that if there is a factual news story that would be upsetting for against we won't cover it that people shouldn't go back to work that they shaken Revolt like I said yeah they should protest like not when I go back to work that to me was one of the craziest things I've ever heard of politicians saying like it if anything we need to get the goddamn economy back on track I wonder if she's going to lose inner primary she's going up against a woman named Michelle caruso-cabrera who is a moderate who actually sounds very reasonable and it and it kind of breaks my heart used to be like you can look at the things we talked about and she's a very real she's got like a book she was an anchor for some I think they're like CNBC or something and she comes off like I don't know, like maybe you were me just how what used to be left before they went became radical activists and for social justice why do you think they went that way why doesn't Arizona is there like you know they get wiped out a lot but you look at the real talk about conservatives getting banned whole lot cuz they're very active but I think so how are you saying that they're less likely to have good internet We Roll We Roll towns I think is that you got a lot of older people that are conservative lot younger people that are liberal and there's there's issues there with how people interact online so my assumption is my opinions things I've read older people more likely to just follow and read younger people more likely to engage most people not engage at all it's something I think like 2% of the country is actually actor on Twitter but you end up with internal bias in social media companies who is authoritative and who isn't Echo Chambers so really good example is like a buzzfeed news write a story that the Wuhan bio-lab leak theory is a right-wing you know popular right-wing Theory Trump supporters are pushing it and here's why it's wrong what's CNN ran about this and so when when you have digital media framing things as always liked you ever wonder why they never say left-wing you know like in the medial say conservatives did X they never say liberal text because they view themselves as those people so you end up with Anaconda does authoritative left-leaning you end up with left-wing activists and acceptable marketability there was a study done where they tracked essentially like visualization of location for various aspects of the internet conservatives are in this bubble liberals in this bubble marketing digital marketing companies overlapped with resistance Twitter anti-trump opening is Big Marketing firms based in New York City based in Los Angeles much more likely to be blue have a Blu perspective they run commercials based on a left-wing perspective politician see it with the television is saying they see what the websites are saying and they say this is what America wants it's not it's what the hyperactive 2% of Twitter once so they fall into that trap where they believe all this stuff the reason ocasio-cortez election was an exploit it was exploiting the system so you end up with someone views that don't represent overwhelming majority this country in a very high-profile position influencing Nancy Pelosi and what you know one of the reasons they think they even went for with impeachment was because ocasio-cortez give a statement where she said was a bigger Scandal that the Democrats would not impeach Trump next thing we know Nancy Pelosi hops on board with the idea and that blew up in their face Trump ends up sings approval rating go up has a ton of money did him in was the Lysol s*** do you think is going to happen in November as of right now there is the Panic Factor could be good for Trump the fact that when a crisis May mean people are desperate for security and they don't want to take a chance they don't take any chances Ryan Trump is a bully like he has like he pushes people around and a lot of people like that about him that he yells the Press bass was clapping standing up saying thank you for finally calling these people out it was a good thing you take that attitude next to Biden you think by him to make anybody feel safe I don't think so so that the argument for it is look man I'm a moderate person my politics have always been left-leaning pro-choice progressive tax government programs all this good stuff group in the city but I'm not super far left I need an argument from you Donald Trump has come forward with the economy was booming lowest unemployment 50 years Summers of our lives up until the pandemic travel ban that they've got the Democrats or even a green without this point if you want to convince me to vote for you and many people like me I think you got to give me an argument as to why buying is better but they're not they're saying stay alive Joe Biden we just don't like Trump but they really really really doing that that's a good point and I think if the economy does manage to show some signs of resurgence around November and in Lino towards October and September if he has some sort of a real rock solid plan he can show you where it's going this is what we're planning on doing this we're going to have this by that and that buy this and that by the way Joe Biden is not going to get better his cognitive decline is going to increase and it couldn't you could drop it off of a f****** clip even might come around to where November is where the gaps are constant and they pulled him off of the public eye and they never show him that the Democrats want to win Michelle Obama we might have a f****** CGI Joe Biden with some I'm not kidding does it from some sort of a remote location and they CGI the s*** out of his his face well I'll tell you one thing that there's there's some that positive trumpy look at in terms of pandemic worry you know people trust him his approval rating was going up when they were televising his his his press briefing as soon as I stopped him and we see this in the Press right now everyone keep saying at the the longer Joe Biden is hitting the batter is campaign is doing because people can't see him struggling the speaker just going against Trump mail-in voting I agree with you about Michelle Obama but I don't think she really wants to run if if mail-in voting for Nancy Pelosi I believe she said she wants to have mail-in voting confirm the next stimulus package if the lockdown persist Beyond November November and May voting is the is the go-to way that the challenge you see a bunch of Republicans saying that mail-in voting could lead to fraud and it can write if somebody's mom is like you know old and just like not paying attention you fill out for her but the bigger issue I see if Republicans is that uninitiated and uninterested people be voted for and that means in big urban areas you'll have a mom and a dad telling their kids who normally don't care just fill it out just fill it out just for the guy and that could potentially hurt accounting brought right Friday so Republicans main concern is fraud that someone can take their kids pack and just put out for him but I don't know how it's counted right tracking on the mailbox in the post office. I agree with all that I think I think you don't need to go so far as to assume someone's going to snatch up all the ballots possible replace them I think that's a bit too much for me I just think right now we know the youth about swings left and they don't care about voting you put the ballot in their house they don't think it turned out for Bernie they did not turn up. Turn on some areas they didn't turn out so you get this very active base online ranting about what they want they don't actually go out for it with about their pocket send it to their mailbox and then Mom says There It Is fill it out there to do it and so that's going to make sure the people who normally aren't bothered to go vote will go vote set a trap for Bernie they did not turn out they turn out some areas they didn't turn out so you get this very active base online ranting about what they want they don't actually go out for it with about their pocket send it to their mailbox and their mom says There It Is fill it out there to do it and so that's going to make sure the people who normally aren't bothered to go vote will go vote

narcos is an interesting they did a damn right I think this s*** is going to Miami they killed it with Pablo they killed it show that killed that guy so good and the guy the guy I like that they hide was that dude that got like two thousand years in jail the one who ran the island like his story is hilarious cuz he was a John Lennon fanatic but he was Spanish okay and he was on these guys they became the extraditable this guy to put the radio and they show scenes of him on the radio f****** like because you are the number one export portrait of a product and he's snoring awfully seems like an assistant while she's blowing that was the one who went to Pablo and said I'm going to I'm going to fly to cook back for you but we're going to make a stop on an island so they bought an island they f****** through the doctor off there was a white doctor that allow that nice to meet you and then we'll listen wow this is what they want everybody out but there was just one white Doodles and kill you from Florida to Germany from Florida to Germany originally from Germany he's his father's German he's got two thousand years so what they did was this what they did was that doesn't take a genius and he made them a bunch of money but then he started doing a podcast from the island with cameras and naked women 20 - 20 million a day and you're just a dick that the coke there's bags of blow behind you he's just ripping bags open snort them just talked and he was a John Lennon fan so he would talk about comforting he would do these videos for hours for days so he was like he's the first one they gave up when the s*** got deep and the Colombians were in trouble to 5km sat down and talked about Jim Morrison the doors they gave him $1,000 because he gave them information years later about he gave them gave him a vital I gave you really great information that if the country f****** knew we would sink like he gave him he gave them information that he was he also not beside having his Island that that was also up of a distraction his Mane contribute his main resupply was Fidel so he Fidel was letting him go to Cuba bring the coke to Cuba stock it and for every ship that went out from Cuba to the United States with a Cuban flag the devil get a kickback of $800,000 but that was sending 3-4 shift today so he testified against the Dell which obviously everything he knew about the ins-and-outs of money moving you can find the online all this s*** money moving you can find the online all this s*** is based off of

how'd you two weeks ago when I went to CVS, I saw a white guy and a hot African-American chick having an argument outside to CVS at 9:20 in the morning he was little chubby and they were having some type of loud discussion I went and I got my medication when I walked out he's yelling at I want my wallet back you f****** b**** always dirty b****** up in Van Nuys and shake this is how bad is why I live now so this is my CBS This is the main when I've been going there for 10 years and also as I walk out I walk towards my car but I hear him go I want my fucken wallet back you f****** b**** and she's like I didn't take your wallet and what are you going to do call the police and tell them what I suck your dick drinking my f****** wall and he hauls off and smacks a dexa like f****** name a knockout of UFC this is way better than you have ever seen the f****** pimp was down the block he took off on his f****** car bra people ran to him me I didn't have a piece so I got in my car and took off because of the shooting I go down the block I go down f****** without going to hook on Lankershim I'm stuck by the train station on the third car in the inside Lane so I'm going south down Lankershim okay I'm about to hit Magnolia the federal all that stuff but I'm sitting right there across from the train station and all of the sudden out of the left of my eye I see this commotion woman looking up and listen I see an axe handle or something hit her she goes down into the street and it's a white guy with a vest on just hitting people with accents and then going down one-by-one and all the sudden I see a chubby guy running across the street at 5 and I'm going to shoot down the street and catch him at the end of Venom with my car it's been years since I hit a motherfuker with my car to get some more what is happening that's why I'm leaving. She sits in her car so I mean like a quarter to nine with talkin it's a chicken play Haydn hot chicken hot chicken Valley Village Park a guy was walking his dog at 2 in the morning for identified men jumped out of a car into a b now you know what get in the car one day next week I've told you and just go say your goodbyes to time to stop by yourself you got to bring nobody but your hand on the wall make a left on La Cienega and then pick a street and make a left so you can make another left to get on the 101 and make a mental projection of when this will come back but you know what everybody wanted the zombie apocalypse you got it b**** I want and make a mental projection of when this will come back but you know what everybody wanted the zombie apocalypse you got it b**** I'm saying you want everybody

let me tell you something along top I FaceTime Facebook instead of torturing him and he was involved in the JonBenet Ramsey case Sully talk the same people from Facebook at me when they go your buddy that got retired so I sent them an e-mail on Facebook a listen hey dude this is the f****** crazy thing I was not wanted but I was questioned on the credit card situation in August of 85 somebody had destroyed that more with a credit card at the description so these two cops with uniforms kept asking me questions I worked at Foot Locker they kept saying pretty soon we're going to start getting the receipt and you have to go in for whatever and they were coming everyday and shake me down and have a good guys if I was a f****** credit card Thief will I be working the flakka so I was just buying time and going to catch me eventually that one cop even came and said as well turn yourself and unlike do you get the f*** off my doorstep that night I want that morning I went to San Francisco a year later I got arrested for kidnapping he gets promoted to detective he doesn't remember me from the credit card thing the whole time I'm sitting at going what is this f****** cop going to remember me from the credit card thing get on the floor cuz I was about to be kidnapping kidnapping to let him know what I was packing what type of person I was so they can company put me in a room that was white made me wait for half hour then they came in and played their technique which I've been doing the people on my f****** life you know I'm the one that would break into Joe Rogan's house and still want you make sure you take one shoe you throw it away that destroys people psychologically for years they'll keep looking for that one shoe what happened then every time you see me guy with the machine gun I don't know did you know I don't know so how did you get there I had a bike but you just said you drove yeah I drove to get the bike to I was just f*** with them cuz I wanted to get out cuz Don Johnson was Mary and Sheena Easton on Miami Vice that night I had to be home by 9 that's all I cared about was his wedding so I'm f****** with the cops drugs when I left to do but kidnap what are you talkin about so we went back and forth like 6 hours and I still remember them sitting there like with their hands down and me talkin about like you know my uncle came from Cuba in 1952 and he work for f****** this guy and then like what's this got to do with what we're talkin about dog and then I agreed to give the guy information and I would just give him like red. hey that's what I would give him Jamie's license he's not a drug dealer but I would tell him that Jamie was running kilos internationally from Europe they were f****** they would go to Jamie's life Columbia he knows the Ochoa Brothers so you were just making up this crazy is Bernie Marcus he want to keep the kidnapping but I might not even find no fingerprints or nothing Sorry Charlie not this time so if you was chomping at the thing he went to all the earrings and said that that you don't let them like we don't see nothing else on the racket so if there's nothing else on the record white evangelist type guys he even was so mad at me that he joined forces with my ex-wife and Court afterward for like child hearing this s*** like that that's how crazy. Oh my God he was there when I went off one day Cuban style and that's the last time I saw is the beauty I can write them letters every month cuz that's a type of motherfuker I am writing letters for the letter say how you doing every month on the 1st for me never never never play smack them in the face at Safeway so they try to get me for a tremendous afternoon listen you f****** come back in here again with this s*** is contempt of court and it was that bad but it was 4 years of getting tortured think of you tortured me for 4 years I'm financially done I'm financially ruined I'm trying to feed you and I'm getting heat cuz I'm dirty a lot of conversation with me on the showing you know I wasn't that no no I wasn't throwing heat there no I just was doing while I was holding myself when I met you when the beginning you were dirty yes yes that's up for some people. That's like a deal-breaker

earthquakes since fracking what's before I talk s*** use broscience earthquake activity I've been out the ground but for people that live there it's horrific or just going to visit Josh box was a book Gasland or a documentary Gasland I believe that's his name he has been on here before person to feel in North America at the moment hey man seriously we only cause one earthquake for every 300 don't frack and dig in the ground and good luck if you have like a water source it's connected to that apparently and sometimes that the gas gets out of the ground f**** up the air quality and fracturing related earthquakes are chronic they were thought to be minor but new research showing they can be quite large and damaging the focus of the study of a 5.7 magnitude Quake near Oklahoma damage 14 homes and other structures in the area you're in Prague Oklahoma be like at least I can just sit on the porch and relax we're away from most folks and the government has to decide like how deep under your house is still your house if you buy a plot of land and they drink your milkshake remember that for that movie baby blood milkshake dude do women ever see you again you see me anytime you want anytime let's make schedule times we see each other most likely

it doesn't mean just because you don't like Trump as an individual that suddenly you're okay with hard Life policies but I think the Democrats make that mistake they think they're they're very think that that's the solution to Trump go as far away from him as pause yeah and then it like what's happening in Portland and Seattle I think people are more aware than ever now that civil unrest is like it's it's very strange it's very strange to watch them try the break into that what was the building in Portland they were trying to ask Fields Courthouse a federal courthouse how do you how do you argue tattoo why why is why I just don't understand why would you try to break in the court out there did trying to recreate what went wrong with didn't work in Seattle right that whole Zone Child Care job give me the worst version of the United States they put up borders immediately they stop people from coming in they had armed guards they wind up using policed I didn't have cough but they have people that act like cops beat the f*** out of people for filming the whole thing but over the years in and you know I'd I know Republicans and Democrats will feel the same way or in Portland in the surrounding area and they all feel like this place has is slowly you know circling down a toilet because of local and State Management right and so what happened in Portland not really surprised you know it's it's a shame that the people that did that do this sort of activity right darkest whatever the same sort a trustafarian and he had a bottom-feeding folks and really any city in the world who engage in a WTO protest because it's cool to get out there and protest and ask them what are you doing and you'll get ten different answers I do think a lot of this is coming from empathy which is a good thing and I have to say with regard to the issue with transitioning children I do support to this thing and adults I think it can help adults who are transgender I think if you were an adult you it's your decision is your body it's no one's place to tell you what to do but I think a lot of this is coming from so I grew up in the gay community and I remember seeing how homophobic people could beat or my friends and I think things have things have gotten better in some ways I think so we can talk about that because I do talk about how that affects a lot of what we're saying in the book but I think for a lot of people they look at that and they say okay we were wrong about that we were wrong to treat gay people differently we were wrong to say that being gay is something you can change so now they've gone completely it in the opposite direction saying okay no matter what anyone says with regard to their identity with regard to their gender this is something that we should not challenge we should fully support if you eat question it in anyway even in the most nuanced or sensitive as I tried to and I think you do but still not acceptable I find people who are if they read my work or they talk to me they said I never realized I didn't know the sign said that and they change their perspective but I think for some people if they are very much busted in the Identity or very very invested in activism or for whatever reason this ideology mean something to them it's you cannot you just cannot reason with them it doesn't matter what the sign says they will find something to pick out and it's really with the assistance which is that that the research I was mentioning where shows that most kids will not work anymore when they reach puberty they just people some people cannot accept it and they will call you transfer call you back you know I don't think I'm any of those things I'm really just trying to help prevent these children from making potentially a very bad decision that they're going to regret and especially now we're seeing in the UK that this happening where more detransitioners are saying this was something I regret this was a mistake why did the adults not challenge me I really think so right now we're in August 2020 I think within the next 5 years or maybe a little bit longer we're going to be seeing an explosion of children coming out and saying I did not want to transition this was a mistake and it's going to be awful when we're already seeing that there's a lawsuit that was a very prominent in the UK recently about a young girl who transitioned to be with you know the lawsuit I'm talking about it's heartbreaking because she's essentially ruin her body to the point where she's not going to be able to have children she's still you know she in in too many cases while these girls can have orgasms ever again what does it mean whenever I want to show if I'm on TV and I talked about this the backlash after is just crazy and I'm thinking people need to wake up I'm trying to stop this from happening right the whole point of this book and saying these things is trying to prevent was about to happen penalty as I respect your view but what percentage of innocent people are you okay with executing right because the system is fundamentally flawed and even if the system was reformed in all the ways that we could sit here and think of right now I have some ideas on that they're still going to be errors there's always going to be there and so I think we did a podcast episode about his case as well James is either going to be the hundredth guy executed by the state of Florida or the 30th guy exonerated from Death Row Clemente was the 29th and I'm representing who should be the 30th so they're not even if all the people caught on fire and had to exit electrocuting three times but even if they got those right they aren't even batting 700 right and then in in Louisiana and do your point before Joe a guy named John Thompson rest in peace was a good friend of mine he came within a month of being executed by the state of Louisiana when an attorney investigator staring into a microscope and saw the DNA evidence and he wrote an opinion piece in New York Times where he said I don't understand why the prosecutor who prosecute could he prove that they knew he was innocent before they prosecuted afraid he knew it and it was absolutely proven that was not in question so he said I don't understand why they tried to kill me and they knew I was innocent but human beings when it comes to anything where there's a game and the problem with policing and Prosecuting people and convicting people and it's a game and meaning that there's winners and losers and winners winners and losers people cheat there's a lot of people with poor character and they just want to win and they get caught up in this game and you can call it a game you can call the pursuit whatever you want to call it there's a there's an end that you want to achieve if you're successful and if you if you don't eat cheese that end your Unser so when people are trying to achieve this end they will do all kinds of things you know the thing about Farley was he hand Spade used to fight over me like I was the girl sweet when I took I took the gang out to Barbarian Steakhouse in Toronto great steak and if they're still there Chris ordered two bone-in to bone-in steak porterhouse steaks ate both of them but on top of each bite he put a cube of butter and when I looked at him like what are you doing he was like so if you want to put a hat on your steak and some people just genuinely don't give a fuk nofucksgiven obviously he's a wild man I met him once on the set of a news radio is partying with Andy Dick gray like wet cardboard you look gray and I'm like a man is it was just he was gone it was sad was weird he had gray skin and I remember thinking but he was sweaty and just because all f***** up yeah he he had major major demons in a lot of us really work you know we're workout for down but you know it's some people can't they can't make that lead man to think about him know is so good so stunning we would just go f****** crazy it was so fun I would wonder like what is is that same thing what makes him and because it was so real is that what made him just go crazy with Coke and go crazy with everything else and I think I think like normal people like I don't see a lot of normal people drawn why would any normal person want to be in entertainment entertainment why would they I think just by default damaged people are people with more articulately people with a hold of Phil are drawn to entertainment to fill the hole

I bummed a lot I just can't believe that I don't I told you I had George Lopez on my podcast two days ago and he was talking about bombing but it is as if you want to expand like comedy is there's a there's a bunch of things going on right there's you relating to the auto them liking you there's this concept to trying to flesh out especially to workout room like a comedy store like you you have to take chances there's no way around it and sometimes those chances fall flat on her face the good thing is those through those painful failures those are like the biggest springboards to improve and growth like every time I've ever had a bad set my next that has been amazing cuz you just feel the sting and you prepare better and also like I think my past bombings have dared me to not bomb again because the fact that I know what it feels like to suck except there's probably someone out there that likes sucking a thousand Jackson father and mother so we'll listen listen I will bet you that no one is Bomb her than me, bro my trusty servant next to us will pull up pull up me bombing in front of a billion people what did you do warts OU hosted it 24 24 years old I'm doing movies Academy Awards asked me to do a big opening number for them Michael holy f****** s*** so I'll play it for us so we want you to honor 86 and I should have like probably thought it through cuz the idea didn't great to me words you don't they know better than I do so and the idea is it's going to be an omage old-time Hollywood and one of the earliest stars in Hollywood was Snow White animated figure so we're going to have a lot of Snow White and we're going to do a duet cuz the big opening musical number the Oscars always used to open with musical numbers for the Ramada logs yeah yes descended it send it okay okay great okay and anyway Marvin Hamlisch is going to write it Marvin Hamlisch yeah I'm not going to tell Marvin Hamlisch that I think that the lyrics are cheesy I could do that so when they get Ike and Tina Turner's Proud Mary and change the lyrics to did a lot of work for Walt Disney what is it on the Hollywood reporter's website I don't know why it's there probably is the title of the actual bombs Oscar opening February 20th 2018 watch it and then we're going to pick this up after robbing I watch this Lily Tomlin at the end now that's it that is truncated version but but but can I tell you something we're by I that was the year that Barry Levinson I can tell just from the first bar is that good forever hold on we'll be right back about to wind literally 11 Academy Awards as an actor there's no one you would want to impress more than Barry Levinson it's the year of Rain Man and I look out Joe in the middle can I see his face I'm not kidding and he's this is what he literally was going with what the f*** you see him actually make the I see him now the words what the f*** and and so without a healthy dose of denial so I'm like you know what f*** Barry Levinson what is he know anyway f*** that guy and go backstage and it's in the Green Room in its early cuz know it's early in the show and there is an older lady in the corner with like flaming red hair and I'm kind of looking at her in and she sees me she was young man I didn't know you were such a good singer come sit down and it was Lucille Ball and I went over and we sat down and she held my hand and we watch the Oscars together and you know what it made it all made it all almost worthwhile almost here's why that's not as bad as bombing doing stand-up because even though a billion people watched you didn't write it and be you knew where you were going you could just sing the stupid song and get it over with its terrible it's bombing it's bad but when you're bombing doing stand-up you are the writer you are the Creator you are the performer put it together you edited it prepared it you got it ready and then you're just up there eating s*** and people are angry at you they're angry they're angry cuz they can do that they were angry that they needed to license the whiteness of Snow White so generous so that I would have thought I would have got I think I would have gotten away with it a little bit and turns of History had there not been massive lawsuits the next day over the likeness thing which made them people thought about it people went back way worse than I thought it did I feel like it might have been bad influence with Kurt with James Spader underwear my favorite movies I got to do at 24 not say no to the academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences they don't and every year every year I'm treated honor high honor of being on the list of most embarrassing Oscar moments every f****** year and it in my thing is as I go hate weight guys you couldn't figure out how to announce the best picture 2 years ago and I'm still jumped up there and saying that and had it made any sense maybe Jim Carrey May yes maybe Jim Mariah Carey have gone. Ventura over-the-top and people would have been just laughing hysterically at how crazy he is it's it's one of my great career lowlights life highlights kind of makes me laugh with with with the onset of perspective in history great career lowlights light highlights kind of makes me laugh with with with the onset of perspective in history that's the beautiful thing about failures they eventually become funny yes

but we're almost at next week might want to go quietly in your sleep rather than live for 500 years and see the the harz humanity turns into that too and I want to like my body breaks down I'm not I'm So Physical I love I love doing my stuff I I I don't think I'd be one of those people that you know NyQuil f*** that's great meme of the guy can't f****** walk like I want to be able to do my thang yes yes the machine working that's a lot of this one it's it's not though cuz the minute you realize your discipline has nothing to do with it that's the only way you can do it if I had if I had one so you broke out that like beer or tequila that be a different thing if you if you and also with the 80s so if you had a Kamikaze for those drinks would it would go Santa be like you know what would be really good to get with me some coke Downey crane with the pound keep your memory probably and it's really good if you want to talk a lot and successful people do a lot of successful people do it and it's not addicting to be a young really famous really good-looking guy during the age of no internet and you know the world was a wild placement you were really famous in the 80s I wouldn't I wouldn't trade it for anything I mean you know all of it look all the mistakes that I made all the things that I learned got me to where I am today and I could not be happier and I needed to I needed some f****** comeuppance and I needed some of that tumbling and stuff on the other side it's like what's the point of being f***** famous today really I don't know if there's a sign I know right I don't know I mean forget the lack of privacy the lack of like crazy fun but you can't have everybody's lying and wait I saw an article written about Leonardo Dicaprio and it was just about how he dates young girls and how gross it is that he's dating girls 25 like 25 f*** is wrong he's a good-looking man he's wealthy and happy and successful oh my God he dates someone who's young and vibrant there must be something wrong with him while if a woman does it nobody gives a s*** they celebrate her Hugo Kate Beckinsale you go take those 21 year olds down that's right roping Wrangler right when it's a woman they look at it like she's just she's doing her thing she's having a good time but man it's like he's abusing its power that Leonardo has power over those young ladies I figure like if you're if you're you know Leo or Bieber or any of those like you like you know like this is like what part of a coming-of-age is figuring out what you want in life and you know when you do that you're going to do if anybody would try to judge someone like that like the Bieber in particular right because he was really really young when he got famous Manson and you know that whole thing that that theory that at whatever however old you are when you get famous that that's like freezes you in carbonite emotionally and and and intellectually will that make sense with child stars like you get famous the people who are famous to you then fast forward a hundred years or whatever and like maybe they haven't done as much and you have when you meet them you think they're the most famous crazy successful person it's the same it's the same type of thing if I were to meet you know dr. Smith from Lost in Space ID like no f****** way The Six Million Dollar Man I can't believe it he's real right I'm more normal with it then when I was young when I was young when I would meet like I remember the first time I was on the set of Newsradio and I met Phil Hartman I was so weirded out how does like he's right there this is craigside met a lot of famous people back then only a small handful

Michael Landon Aquaman Patrick Duffy Patrick Duffy Atlantis I saw the first thing to do the first time I ever saw something being filmed in California I had just come out from Ohio was 1976 and traffic was all blocked off with a Malibu Pier and I got out of my and I saw the light Susan the date it was so long ago they still have lights for daytime shooting and they were to do a stunt or Patrick Duffy is the man from Atlantis going to jump off the Malibu Pier and I was so f****** excited I used to try to swim like him cuz remember the man for that helmet Atlanta Sky anyone without ya f*** I love it I'm trying to figure out where it was found it they think they found something that represents exactly what the depictions of Atlantis were like these these Rings concentric Rings they think that there's some place it was not an island or one place it was all of it but whatever it was you know there's there's so many different versions of that somebody different versions of this like spectacular Seaport civilization that was destroyed in the flood like the flood of the Bible like Noah's Ark there's also there's an ancient story called The Epic of Gilgamesh in that store is very similar story about a flood and this is one of the things that Graham Hancock points to that there's all these civilizations that talk about had no interaction with each other in theory and yet they all have the same oral histories I did a show with my boys couple o files and it's it was basically it was an excuse for my boys and I to run around in a souped-up Raptor around the country and explore urban legends and Anthony Bourdain meets Scooby-Doo he was a f****** dream come true when they put us with Ancient Aliens for one night we blew the roof off the place credits for prefer one of the Lowe files it's not my proudest moment 4 years ago credit so then if y 500 is it it's right at the end government Right Here Right Here Comes for bigfoot we did Bigfoot twice we did Bigfoot up in Northern California in Walnut Creek the family know that the Patterson-Gimlin film was shot we did turns out the wood ape of Arkansas Oklahoma is the most active place and that was where we really where we had some really radical experiences where I've heard stop and you her Matthew oh yeah I heard like lip popping chest beating really what you really think it was real tired chest beating on a Bigfoot movie Bobcat Goldthwait yep he made a great Bigfoot movie Willow Creek he's been with all these guys were like real legit people they're like regular people and they spend their time out in the woods and they know how many are out there and it was crazy Matthew my youngest son's to the thermal imaging so I'm hiding but like doing the thing that I find the tree like the slogan for the Lowe files was it's more fun to believe it's like I don't have a dog in the fight but it's way more fun for sure way more fun the problem is a people looking at it also wanted to be real and not really really yeah I looked into that tell me everything I did a show called Joe Rogan questions everything for Syfy and me and my buddy Duncan went up to the Pacific Northwest and we did we brought stuff to real biologists and we actually had samples and primate DNA it's always right yeah there's no one just stops granola bars in their backpacks they're hiking out something to get your sweat on into can show up as human DNA or animal DNA mixed with human DNA it's the problem is the people that are into it the real the real problem is they want to believe so f****** bad that they just have this crazy confirmation bias and the only look at the good things are my favorite identity of kids you know having a blast the thing about Bigfoot that's interesting is that Native Americans had more than a hundred different names for that animal guess they don't have names for other mythical creatures and then on top of that there was an actual animal called a gigantopithecus and it was a huge ape ape like creature that stood on two legs and walked upright and is probably some sort of looked like orangutan like it probably looked exactly like what we think of is Bigfoot was an actual animal images of itsfunneh the deep connection between Native Americans and that Legend is really really profound I have had in India in one of the episodes that we did we we talked with with the some of the elders and they would say no one reached through the window and touched my chest and like it's like you like this guy's not cry right but they also peyote Native Americans would let you see Bigfoot interdimensional when you're on drugs that could happen absolutely could be real on the right side

did Outsiders we were kids you Cruise me and Matt Dillon and we all everybody we were we were young I was 17 17 turning 18 in St Thomas Howell play Ponyboy the lead in the movie was 15 and when we would finish shooting we get in the van to get her and back to the hotel and there would be as much beer as you wanted is 15 can you can you pull up photo up to see our feet is it possible cuz it's okay look at look at Swayze he's standing on bricks whose feet he wanted to be taller nitrite Swayze standing on bricks in the back of that migrate people love that movie Grace it's f****** great it's great he's a bouncer bouncer and that's part of the things like I thought you were going to be bigger than that that's like one of the lines of the movie cuz he's a Legendary Bouncer that they bring in to fix really bad honky-tonks the bat problems at the door I mean it's so good they don't hurt us actual line the movie pain don't hurt cuz 80s lines are so good song She's Like the Wind in Youngblood like in the butt watch supposed to throw that money that's the joke bad kick he was the best man did he know he might be the most intense guy ever worked with bodyweight push-ups with his feet up against the wall all night long and not slapped and wanting you to hear he was like a why is great great but now I remember I remember she's like the wind and I was like I don't know how it fits in a hockey movie bro I don't know how that fits in the hockey movie big family ghosts great movie that's a great Point Break was a great movie I thought it was a French Canadian goalie really I didn't know he was an actor I thought I literally thought he was we hired this amazing French Canadian goalie

and so be like working with him and sit and he's sitting there like I've seen you on TV by the way how can you integrate was Phil he was amazing he was I buy scariest one of my squares professional moments involve Phil Hartman I was I was hosting the show on Saturday Night Live and filling it fill out a character called mace that he did reoccurring character pretty boy roasts they would throw of coerce me into a cell with Maisie turn around their chicken legs that was like the predicate of a I just remember a pop-up nothing it was the week that the Lambada dance was a big deal that tells you how long it was amazed and I were doing the Lambada and a prison cell and the whole sketch built towards AAA fine and for whatever reason I blew the set up line like like blue blue it's like there's no there's now no end so I had to ad-lib something really really really really quick it felt like time stretched out in his eyes got huge and night I ad-libbed live something and it worked in a got a really big laugh when I think that's when I would sort of sealed my relationship of Lorne Michaels cuz I was able to keep back backstage me like you're really Houdini aren't you it's the host show like you can take as much control over as you want and most people don't just being stupid and naive did and always did and set it on the writers all all night right all night with all the different writers going from room to room was the f****** heaven but the dress rehearsal of course right before air and its full shows exactly the same show cancel the whole thing and then they cut things or not with one of my favorite things that got cut in so I Will Ferrell and I paint oncologists who would deliver the bad news that people had stage 4 cancer but only with our mouths full of food so that was that was like that was the total predicate of of the sketch it was like so weird and so dark it made it to to air express wow really crazy she said everybody was kind of working together he said the wrong things about when you do SNL everyone's battling to get their sketch on so they would sort of sabotage each other and they would kind there was a lot of like backstabber s*** going on and he didn't like it and he was really hesitant like to be friendly with people on the set like when you first got on the sitcom it took a while for him to loosen up and realizes others a different thing cuz that that environment was every man for himself yeah it's it's funny ensembles or are funny that way like there is a an element of teamwork which I getting team there's an element of teamwork that's intrinsic and you want and it's great and hopefully it's there but then there's that that element of of you know competitiveness even with your sort of Band of Brothers but yeah that gets toxic in a hurry with the with the right with with the wrong culture and and maybe the wrong people in a bit that SNL it's like it is what it is how many slots for sketches and they're only so many people writing and the best is when people try to tank up and read through like you read all of them on Wednesday big huge stack of them and people will like laugh really really hard at their own stuff for like rolled her eyes at other than it's fun to walk your dad but people don't even know what we're talking about so I'll do a table read or see the most unrelatable podcast ever just now seeing and read the most unrelatable podcast ever just now it's a prepping and earthroamer

James Cameron Nails something in that Avatar film that resonates with people in a very strange way not just that it was an awesome moving it was a f****** awesome movie but that he he nailed something that made people want to live like that you know there was a thing they were talking about after that movie called Avatar depression where people were leaving the film and they were depressed that their life was nothing like Avatar like Pandora like living like the nod or there was something about what he nailed he nailed something in that movie was like the spiritual connection is very Ayahuasca like to this is connection to Mother Earth in a nature and and spirits and that the connection of all of them it was there's something about that film he he he hit some nerve with people I've never heard of another film generating depression that you know Star Wars depression see some of the ones that have recently come out here this depressing well that's what happens when the executive get ahold of us got to go to Cuba and put them in some sort of Elemental area of the psyche that people it just resonated with people you know people that talk about folks that live like a subsistence life then I'll people that have gone to the woods and they they just live off the land they talk about this like deep connection to Nature that they get from that and how it makes them feel fulfilled I don't feel depressed they feel very engaged and you know there's a guy named highmount he lives in the Arctic and vice did this whole series on him called the hindmost arctic adventure and one of the things that he was saying as he came out there like in the 19 Denise work for the Forestry Department I just live there for the rest of his life he's up there right now with his family like he's married to this indigenous woman and they live off the land needs caribou and fish and his whole life is like hunting and Gathering please like this is how people are supposed to rain is a very intelligent man very articulate weirdo that lives in the woods he's a guy who recognizes like there's something about this resonates with humans this life is like the being you're you're you're connected in the way that you're supposed to be and he thinks that what we've done creating cities in electricity and electronics and you know social media and all the b******* that we deal with today that we have disconnected ourselves from the things that that really make us human and that I believe that his his life is more connected to it but there's even a deeper connection and that's how the navi lived and you know if you read about there's just many stories about Native Americans were they would especially Comanche would kidnap people who would kidnap like young scrapbook which one under the Harvest Moon she did not want to go back to Western civilization she's like you guys live like idiots like this is a b******* way to live there's something about that movie that tapped into that but also tapped into this like spiritual realm that exist and psychedelics a Cameron f****** nailed it man he now a lot of people like I'll never had him on know I love that guy he's the best was one of my best friends and he and Jim were in Rodger corman's production Mill together they were the both sexes standby painters so he's been in every Jim Cameron movie ever ever made and he introduced me to Jammin there was a minute while I was going to play the Billy Zane part in Titanic and the gym is Like There's No One Like Him literally like f****** guy went to the bottom of the ocean with a so Bill and he went to these build a goddamn Thursday and and they went down to the Titanic they have lunch on the deck of the f****** Titanic and then bill came up and everybody was like ashen-faced and freaking out and 9/11 it happened go pack some was on the deck of the Titanic when 9/11 fast and freaking out and 9/11 it happened go pack symbols on the deck of the Titanic when 9/11 happened Holy Jim Cameron is that crazy

what's the weird one right when you like watch a movie you like where the f*** did that guy go like that guy from The Mummy Brendan Fraser Saturday Night Live closing you know the name of his movie that was opening that weekend sold what the f*** are you we don't hear what it was about to promote bedazzled some backroom smoke and then he was going to go out there and he's probably a little drunk May y'all bedazzled anyway we watch The Mummy watch couple the mummies and we watch Tommy Boy stand-up funny movie Matt Funny awesome God damn was and a great actor my my among all my regrets about Chris's passing was where he would have gone as it as a as a as an actor cuz he was cute and as fate stay the same acting in the movie forget the funny which is great but like they're like legitimate acting moments in that movie yes and I think that's why it it has the this sustained power but Chris was really going to develop into a into a real serious actor of a good one I think he was such a f****** Powerhouse when you go ape shitt look at those two idiots he was awesome man that's the cow tipping scene which I was a high-pitched to the writers they've never heard of it and it made it into the movie who's your mom / girlfriend again Derek that's right but I was a great thing cuz we supposed Derek and her husband John famous John Derek was very protective of her and she hadn't worked in a long time and he made her come all her hair off today before she showed up on the set of Tommy Boy so that sweet we thought we were getting Bo Derek from 10 with the hair and she showed up with hair that's busy my my like now cuz it's because John made her do it really smart great woman and I mean I got to kiss Bo Derek I mean I know I'm for people who don't know like what she wasn't an original white girl with cornrows but it was okay you couldn't get canceled for that she was the original Gigi Hadid about that as a reference that my cool and young now is her dad got sued cuz it's built a house that's too big no permits and absolutely no promise perfect bone structure right yes she was at she was amazing and tell me what you know the thing about Farley was he being spayed used to fight over me like I was the girl Barbarian Steakhouse in Toronto great steak and if they're still there Chris ordered two bone-in to bone-in steak porterhouse steaks ate both of them but on top of each bite he put a cube of butter and when I looked at him like what are you doing he was like it needs a hat so if you want to put a hat on some people just genuinely don't give a fuk nofucksgiven obviously he's a wild man I met him once on the set of a news radio he's partying with Andy Dick gray like wet cardboard you look gray and I'm like a man is it was just he was gone it was sad was weird skin all f***** up yeah he had major major demons in a lot of us really worked you know we're workout for down but you know it's some people can't they can't make that lead man to think about him though is so powerful demons that made him so good he was so good so good I mean horsepower things we would just go f****** crazy it was so fun I would wonder like what is is that same thing what makes him and makes it was so real is that what made him just go crazy with Coke and go crazy with everything else and I think I think like normal people like I don't see a lot of normal people drawn why would any normal person want to be in entertainment by default damaged people are people with a more more more articulately people with a hold of Phil are drawn to entertainment to fill the hole and you unsend some and some of the people that have other damage to rage anger whatever it is but without question the more normal someone is I know like a fortunate listeners like I'm just letting it like really really nice and really really decent and I'll go I wish you were crazy and damaged like me cuz then you'd be really have you ever met but can you think of a normal decent well-rounded unfucked up person who's hilarious know I'll tell you real quick right think of a normal decent well-rounded unfucked up person who is hilarious no I'll tell you real quick right now is a big part of humor is saying things that are radically inappropriate

is a sober guy others part of me that wishes cuz I like you I like mushrooms but only like once or twice a year cuz it's so f****** fun and get like you said you get all that stuff going but mushrooms I could feel the mushrooms and I was getting high to he was smoking pot but then we're drinking Bud Lights and with a lot of chaos but I think about people go and do Ayahuasca and do those those that really appeals to me that's different in that you know you could call it a drug but it's DMT which brings up right not drunk that's what's weird about it why don't know what it is but if you wanted to get real woo you would call it some sort of a chemical Gateway into another dimension or to another realm that you can't access without it it doesn't seem like a drug how is it not any different then I got stoned and I saw crazyshit so well I'll give you do Coke right like I'm sure you're coked up for a long time write your body is all f***** up for long-time dimethyltryptamine only last like 15 minutes cuz yeah your body recognizes what it is is the roots of one plant and the leaves of the other so you have DMT in one plant in the other planet yet call Dan MAO inhibitor is monoamine oxidase that's produced by your gut to break down dimethyltryptamine in bunch of other chemicals but it breaks down dimethyltryptamine because dimethyltryptamine in a bunch of different plants so you you could trip just eating phalaris grass if you didn't have monoamine oxidase in your gut so when you eat this if you ate the grass nothing would happen because your body would break it down but if you had an MAO inhibitor then you trip balls and then talk about weather is like I vomited for 5 hours and I shown below your a****** out you going to diarrhea throw up its disgusting stuff you know that I don't do that you getting all the the stuff that you know not the active ingredient from these roots and these leaves two and then also your body is freaking out if you ever had any Awakening or Vision or yeah and he's anything that you could that you once you got what you were done tripping that didn't seem like the ramblings of a Madman for Resistol you're like oh wow I had a revelation it's hard to say it all seemed impossible to describe to anybody else other than people that have experienced it but what would it does make you realize is that how the thing that I always felt when I came back is like how is this that you could go to a place like this or you can see something that's way more Vivid and way more powerful than regular life like whatever it is it's not it's it's not like it's it's dull and confusing and you feel drugged and you feel less know you feel more you see more it's more vibrant it's more powerful and whatever is over there seems to know you it seems to understand it seems to be you're communicating with something something that's far more intelligent than you far more advanced and not hindered by all of the things that were hindered by like our egos and our our our nonsense or insecurities in our our civilization and culture it's like it's it's some sort of other kind of Consciousness you know and they joke about things they do they make fun of you like one time I did and all these gestures like this like a a geometric pattern of jesters like a fractal like the Infinite Jest as we're giving me the finger like this f*** you like mocking me and the message that I got was that I was taking myself too seriously like maybe even like wow like my intentions going to the trip I was taking myself too seriously and I remember relaxing on a car and rent in there like that is there nodding your head like yeah yes like it was a message like hey stupid you know you take yourself too seriously f*** you f*** you I like in your life now like let's say you are stressing out about something as very seriously do the fractal just gestures do you remember them and go home yeah I had this very very this Dimension this time humility is the humility that comes from real psychedelic experiences that you just cuz you know that they are possible it's makes you and makes you second-guess the significance of regular existence cuz it seems like the whatever that didn't think that might be where you go when you die I was waiting for them I was waiting for them makes you and makes you second-guess the significance of regular existence cuz it seems like the whatever that didn't think that might be where you go when you die okay I was waiting for them I was waiting for them for the moment

got to be something done to push back against this this this idea that we have right now with a weaponized this idea of defunding the police that the police are evil you know that the police having money is the problem and it's it's crazy like there's a reason why we have the police folks they're necessary it's very important and to abandon them or to treat them like anything other than members of our community and very important members of our community is so Shore I didn't so crazy and done by people that I don't think understand psychology that I don't think they understand violence I don't think they understand crime and it's again it's it's weaponized it's this thing that they're using now to push a political agenda to to align themselves with people you know so that it helps him get re-elected it helps them gain power with their constituents it's so dangerous and it's such a weird thing to hear coming out of mainstream politician do we need to defund the police make you guys are crazy I mean when people talk about defunding along the lines of take some of that money and put it into communities like that piece of it could be if done well beneficial last five decades have had to take on more and more and more jobs within the community I mean a lot of people would say that that that key change came in like the sixties when deinstitutionalization happened from the mental hospital so it used to be if someone was mentally ill they went to the hospital open the way it was supposed to so that the Community Mental Health never got funded properly and then all those folks who had mental illness did not get proper treatment went off meds all sorts of problems and now they became into social services and in helping these folks in a way that makes it so police officers don't have to do those jobs anymore I'm all right with that and I think most of the cops are because I've spent half my career on this side of police psychology sub training folks how to talk to people with mental illness so they don't end up shooting them right CIT thing where we have cops and clinicians that go out together but I don't know any clinician that wants to do that by themselves so if you on the police and everyone says yeah but you're going to send me into a potentially violent dangerous situation where you've got to be do you know what retirement is the right thing for me right now because I can't do this this is the lack of support and and what's going on is just too much it's not worth staying anymore and overwhelming and in to see how rather than you know trying to come in and figure out improve what we've got it's like it just doesn't make sense to throw hands up and say okay get rid of it because what's the plan b I'm so dangerous yeah it's it's very unsettling and overwhelming and in to see how rather than you know trying to come in and figure out how to improve what we've got it's like it just doesn't make sense to throw hands up and say okay get rid of it because what's the plan b

there's a stigma there's that do I really need this it just is hard to pick up and the person that wants help all the time OK and help me it's going to be about doing that all the time so for these cops that are in that situation so when I say look I need to take some time off you you basically just leave me alone and say if you want these resources here they are or did they I mean is what they're one of the things it's kind of painful right now is you know every morning I get a news recap from the International Association of chiefs of police they send this email out to all the all the members of there and they have you had that Psychological Services Group and so we get these updates tonight I usually just kind of passed them over but lately with all the police reform so just headlines from around the country and the piecemeal randomness of of this City's doing this and this City's doing this and this you missed in this it and it's all over the place saying that's driving me nuts cuz I'm like there's already been groups that have studied and reported and told us what we need to do to help the the world of policing rise up and do better with that information out there from from wonderful brilliant people who come together and have laid it out for us it's there but yet we don't have that National Standard each state has certain that you know have a group like in California to California post you know it's the police officer standards and training so they said all the rules for training with minimal training requirements for all the departments in California so all the agencies police agencies here in this state are need to comply with all the post recommendations but they're all standard and our post California organization to have something similar to like what we have so they do set some standards but there are so many things that are not included in that and so it is a bit you know random it's hard I think to make a one-size-fits-all Everybody Must do this because if you think about it I think there is about 18000 different police agencies in the US and I think I read about 50% of those have 10 or fewer full-time officers so when you got towed out tiny little town in the middle of you know the Midwest in a very rural County that that you know that's a whole lot different than LAPD so it's hard to have everybody on the same standard in the same expectations when we've got a lot of different make ups for a lot of different departments that said there are some fundamentals that I think every Department should be held to and one of those is the debriefings afternoon in and the one that that almost no one is doing that's been talked about for a while as regular mental Wellness checks you know what this point you get a psych eval when you're hired or before you're hired and if you're in a critical incident you may or may not get one more more or starting to do that and then the only other time you're going to be required to see the psychologist is if you have messed up and you're in trouble and you're referred for a fitness-for-duty evaluation and at that point your job is on the line someone is saying that they think you're not fit for Duty and not as a scary evaluation to have to be a part of cuz then you're going in and and yeah if the psychologist judges and decides that you are not able to go back out then you're then you're off duty until you can fix whatever that problem Maybe how do we stop what happened in Minneapolis how do we stop that from from happening or at least mitigate it I mean I'm sure there are things beyond my realm that that also answer this question for me the things that I think we could be doing different that would really make a difference are the regular annual mental Wellness checks if from my perspective when I look at people like you know Derek Chauvin the the officer that that murdered George Floyd and we see what happened there he I would say I would be willing to guess and I don't know him I've never met him I don't know much about his career other than what I read in the news and and whatnot police officers that get to that place become that they're not that when they're hired process where they are digging and poking into every aspect of your background a background investigation which really I think hugely powerful key part it and it should be well done background investigation people who you know people from your past your landlord your ex-wife your girlfriend your boyfriend they've all gone through and it is in Oconto this background they also do a polygraph they do social media checks they you know they make you list all your tattoos and you know so they're they're looking for and if there is somebody who is just flagrantly racist has you know you know been out there holding white supremacy like they're going to they're going to see that somewhere in that digging around the blatant racist folks are likely weeded out during a good background process say maybe they're not as openly cuz you know we all know that people know better than to admit to such things most of the time these days and it could be more subtle so at that point what comes next you got oral interviews with you no police administrators a polygraph you know coming along in there and once they pass all of that that's when they come to the last they get their conditional offer of employment so they're basically like as long as you get through these last two steps you're you're good to go for the Academy in the last two steps are the medical evaluation so by the time we get them they have been heavily vetted poked around in and look through in their past and we get a we get a pretty clean group of people but then we get to do more digging and we get to ask questions at this point that they're not able to ask before so about mental health and background and psychological treatment in history and so you know if they get through these evaluations then they go on to the academy so for us that wedding that psych eval is a really important place and I've had a lot of conversations with other psychologists you know in the past few months like what are we missing I've had a workshop a couple months ago for other police psychologist on you know some of the things we do in these pre-employment send had someone say how do we screen out the cops to kill and I said we can and that was not a good answer is that we can't we can't because we have to what we're doing here is predicting the future right where were saying how do we know who is going to be that person who does that later predicting the future is incredibly hard figuring out who may be subtly racist or bias is also incredibly hard so that said we do a whole lot of things we've got our psychological test that we give we ask a lot of questions and we dig as deep as we can to try to again we doubt anyone who we think could potentially become a person down the road who could be a cop who kills are who you know is racist and bias in his treating people in properly so that's one big thing that we want to be very cautious and make sure we're doing a good job of screening up front but I would say so much more to say about the test in the screening but gets really nerdy and in detailed I would say that the officers who end up having the most problems are the ones who once they get on or in a department where that is the culture that is that that that those types of behave where are acceptable so as a young officer they learned that have you ever seen the documentary the seven five I Have Nots it's a great documentary about Michael Dowd who has been a guest on the podcast who is a he was a terrible cop and talked openly about how he was corrupted and how his first day on the force he he witnessed corruption and was told to shut his mouth and further went on to become a drug dealer and robbing drug dealers and just pizza crazy documentary you'd enjoy it a particular from a psychological perspective cuz he talked about it after having served time just showing the damages from the time and telling the stories it's the culture of each individual department is different and some there's a great video of Floyd Flint Michigan where these police officers after George Floyd death they show up for these protests and tell these people protesting we're going to march with you like we're part of this community to like we are your friends like we are police officers but we are not the person who did that thing and we wouldn't do that thing and we want to show you that we support you and that we're here to help that's what that's what really want it's beautiful it's so cool to see them all March together and are hugging that's what we want right officer level but I think I think that is very limited because I think the racist angry cop who kills has developed that way over time and I think one of the pieces is the culture in the department is this something that's acceptable is there corruption in that department and so certainly better oversight and tracking is a really important thing you know that that should happen but the other piece in the one that that I focus more on for my end is the wellness you know is this somebody who is burning out is this who has gone into a dangerous place you know psychologically that they started out and they were fine when we spring them up front but you know what were 5 or 10 or 15 years they've seen so much and you know there's someone that things happened in your brain that change the way you think and see and perceive the world when you do this type of work and when you get to a place where those were that those processes have really taken their toll and somebody has gone down this kind of dark path it's hard to come out of that and the end their way they react to the world and the individuals that they see on a daily basis is going to be very different than what they look like when they were hired so for not regularly checking in and seeing who might be at risk for going to that dark place that bitter and angry place you know we're not able to catch them before something happens and that's where you know for me and my my big platform is regular Wellness checks I'm not the first one to come up with this idiots and suggested by task forces and study groups and people who know a whole lot more than I do for for a while now but in Reading there was a wonderful report to Congress that was put out by the cops which is community oriented policing Services they sent this like 60-page report to Congress March of 2018 and described in detail you know all the things that we should be doing to pay attention to officer Wellness one of which was we see think that some regular check-ups are probably help but the problem is no one's doing them and we have literally zero research on you know what what are they helpful can they prevent this and I believe they are so my you know my next big thing is to go and explore and and do that research so that we can show hey this does help weekend we can if we're touching base and we're getting people in then we can catch the problems as they develop and before they become a major the problems as they develop and before they become a major problem where someone's interacting with the community and they go awry and do something awful let's take care of them along the way and catch the problems before they before they become behaviors that are problematic

seems to be a lot of discussion now about police brutality but there's not a lot of discussion about the psychological troubles and did the real the difficult path of being a police officer and appreciation for the people that have to do that job all this defunding the police talk scares the s*** out of me because I see what's going on right now in New York City and it's a goddamn Shooting Gallery it's crazy and the reason why is because the police officers have no trust in the mayor they want to quit they don't feel like they get any respect they feel like they they've all been lumped in with this one murder is cop from Minneapolis now they're all bad cops and there's a license to call them bad cops scream terrible things out then when they've done nothing wrong with their dad just there to protect and serve a lot of them are good people and the vast majority so when you're seeing this giant uptick in murders New York City city in China taking shootings and then you still have that d****** of a mayor calling for the defunding of the police like my God like what I know so much of the things they say or just political because they just wanted appeal to their base and if so many people out there that have this very narrow-minded perspective they just have blinders on and there I dislike racial justice social justice deep on the police's exist Mantra that they have to say with no depth to it they don't under consequences of saying such a thing or implementing such a thing now we're seeing a call for police action because there's a lot of people there's a lot of community groups a lot of people that are Community leaders that are in these communities that are just experienced unprecedented gun violence and crime and now they're saying we got to do something about this so they're trying to reinstate some of these policies that they had pulled before I'm hoping that through this what we talked about with training and with funding the police more instead of defunding the police train them better fun the more we you obviously need police this idea that you don't need police with a Criminal just going to go away like it's crime going to go away until we have a problem we have an enormous number of people and added enormous number people there is a certain percentage of them that will victimized other people they will steal they will kill and if they don't get caught then you develop a culture of crime and then you develop a thing where you you basically have a torn down in Mexico where are the cartels have more power than the police which is a terrible situation if you have that an individual locations like in New York City if all the sudden is Criminal gangs these criminal gangs develop more gun power more more support of the community they have more people than police officers you've got a giant problem and did the actual peaceful citizens are the ones that are going to be in trouble and all those people that are out there protesting that think they're immune from it because you're the one saying defund the police hey man don't f****** robbed you two don't shoot you too and you don't understand humans and you don't understand violence and so this utopian world that they're trying to push her teeth on the police we're just going to we're going to refund looking to put that money into the community and everything's going to be fine it's not going to be fine you need to find the police more you need to train the police better we need more oversight and we need to recognize this is a time where everybody's got to come together on this and we got to figure out what's wrong fix what's wrong recognize there's some problems but you can't blame all cops and you can't Sadie from the police cuz that's nonsense that this. Is a a silly like a version of life that doesn't it's not real you need good cops better cops are you saying we need to get rid of bad cops yes definitely how do you do that that's where they start training the more like this idea that you can't spend 20% of the time training them well if you did spend 20% of the time training them and there was a lot less crime because of it and the interactions with with people were much better would not just be over all bet is that an impossible task I mean what how much money goes into the police department you tell me you can't add 20% to that and train the more I said I bet you ten. I bet you could find it financially beneficial I would see overall if you could reduce crime that way and reduce the animosity between citizens and the police wouldn't be better for everybody it would and I agree I agree with with you I mean on the defunding thing you know I think and you had other people say this to and you know this I meant amazing hear that like it means different things to different people and I wholeheartedly agree what are you doing I don't understand anybody articulate so then what born in their church and I can't quite imagine like that so I completely understand the anger in the frustration cuz if you're right we don't need bad cops there's nothing worse then you know the person you called to protect you and to help you and you're in an emergency doing the wrong thing and in doing harm and I wholeheartedly agree and and the right type of training and getting that time because I also think that the training gives you access to see where people are and if they're on a good path or if they are that problematic person you saw all those things to do that was part of what your your podcast with Jocko what's this whole idea of you know the interaction with the community with community-oriented policing you know and it's it is exactly what Chaka was talking about when he was talking about being overseas and I think you're talking about Petraeus and the Order of you know you don't just roll up in your tank and cruise through you stop and you talk and you humanize yourself and you engage with these you know with the folks here and you let them know that you're you're here to protect and to serve and you connect with them and then helps both the community citizens soldiers that's the same thing that we were wanting here at home in this country that that your police are supposed to be your supporters in your resources in in the people that you trust interconnected to and that is what community oriented policing is it's not a new idea it's been around for decades but we still don't have that going on now it's still Community instead of we are Community together and we need to work with each other to denote it to keep this place safe and understand what the biggest problems are what are the citizens concerns and it isn't easy to do it's not an easy thing to do but it works was telling me you would be stunned at how inept some of these cops are the come here he goes date literally barely know how to shoot a gun and I wouldn't believe them except I've seen so many cops that are so fat and so sloppy and I'm like how are you going to defend yourself like the idea of you serving and protecting like dude if someone throws you in the ground you're not even getting up like how does that happen to have standards for like able to shoot a gun knowing how to handle it properly being accurate being consistent with your training and also physical fitness like that's the job of a police officer is dealing occasionally with violent criminal when you have no capacity to defend yourself how are you able to help people being accurate being consistent with your training and also physical fitness like that's the job of a police officer is dealing occasionally with violent criminal when you have no capacity to defend yourself how are you able to help people

not clear-cut Solutions and the problem law enforcement to me is akin to the problem of Education in that there's not a lot of money in it but it's an incredibly important part of the world and Incredibly important part of our society but yet the people that do it don't get paid well you know me some police officers can make a really good living if they do a lot of overtime that is true but also you got to think about what kind of what are you talkin about you talking about someone literally giving up 80 hours a week of their of their life and when it comes to officer Wellness that's one of the things I recommend against mental the mental state off track overtime was written in a book is older now I think it was early 2000s a guy named Kevin Gilmartin wrote a book called emotional survive for law enforcement officers and their families but that's probably not exactly right but that's close best book I've ever read on police mental health and he describes in such an easily digestible way what what happens with police officers and their mental state right he talks about your normal humans we kind of we live between the lines like this is a normal state of alertness and functioning so we all are kind of in here when you're on the job and has a police officer you've got to live in this state of hyper-vigilance like you're on your alert you're always ready and you know sort of energize a little bit of adrenaline flowing and so they have to live up there and that's that's our bodies are meant to do that for short-term you know that's our nervous system parasympathetic nervous system and it dips down but instead of going back into that like middle Zone the normal Zone where most of us are functioning you know kind of going about normal level of energy they dip down below because once you've been on that high, that that that why you been on the job your body needs to recover so it goes down into the slow State and while it's down there you know you again this is your nervous system is kicking back in your recovering you're out of that beast mode and you're in that you don't feel great you're tired you kind of want to be alone you want to isolate a detached you know a tent and a lot of cops kind of go and Retreat when they get home and they need that that go to my cavetime your body and it usually takes a body 18 to 24 hours to get back into the normal Zone great so if we did that one day and then we dip down to recover we come back but what happens within 24 hours will you go back to work again so what happens for cops is there up then they're low then their way up then they're low and that's not the way our bodies were made to function you're in the state of hyper-vigilance for so long it starts to wear on you it wears on you physically it wears on you mentally it was on you emotionally and never get that recovery time to get back to a normal state so they constantly are in this life time the other thing it does kind of trouble functioning at home if they're working too much and they're so into it that on Penn State feels good until then what do they do they crave work more overtime shifts and they hang out with other police officers and they start to kind of become their police self and they lose their personal self and so this is I love gilmartin's book for this and I recommend it to any officer that I've come across if they haven't read it because it really beautifully explains this cycle and kind of what it does overtime and he also goes on to recommend what we don't how do you and the long and short of it is that the end can you lose too much of your personal self you become that burned-out bitter angry going to snap and you know and do some make a bad decision kind of place so how do you resolve that you know you got to protect your personal self you've got to keep from getting hard and bitter and becoming too much of that police self and so one of the things is you protect your off time and you use it you engage you you do the things you love you don't give up your hobbies you if you have a fan and kids you do things with your children you have to get back into the real world so you remember that the real world is out there because if you are only in that state we're all you're seeing is the things that cops see which is negativity and and stress and horror and Trauma and angry people and hand hurt people and victimized people if that's all you're seeing your spending all your life in that state you forget what happens on the outside and I think it's really hard to Stan from the outside looking in this story that I got a little bit little bit of a taste of it from my years when I was before I went into the academic route and I was working in the prisons and forensic hospitals and so here's maximum security setting you know being a young small female so after a few years of that I didn't notice it was having any effect on me until I was working at a federal prison at the time and one of my college roommate came to visit me and we were hanging out and having a drink or whatever and joking and and after a while she was like have you what do you mean you're just kind of hard like you know what I thought when she said that it really kind of struck me and like two weeks after that I went to visit my sister and that the time she had young kids and I remember sitting outside watching somebody playing a ball game and and looking at all these families and I remember having the thought like what are they doing Happy don't they know of what all that's going on about all the horrible people in the park they scared to be omigosh she was right like I've my brain has started to go into a place where because every day I had to steal up get tough be ready for anything Have Eyes in the back of my head cuz I was working in a really dangerous setting at that time and I had to protect myself and when I flash you know after that I stopped working in the prisons and I saw him back up and came back to the normal state of functioning I can turn it on or off depending on if I need to but it really was telling to me to see how much you're just your your daily Persona can shift when that's your day-to-day functioning so that Gilmartin stuff with the you know that the waves in the hyper-vigilance in the recovery and then more people start to become their police self more and more and lose their personal self it's a really important thing for officers to be aware of and to track and monitor if they want to stay balanced the best of the cops that I know and I do a lot of really good ones but I think of a few that stand out who I just simply adore as humans and a really wonderful officers they have that balance really down when they're on their on but then when they're off their doing stuff with their families are coaching their kids football teams there you know active physically they're fit their mentally they have a real personal life that they hang on to that balances out what they see and the negativity that comes out them constantly in their in their day job something that most of us have to deal with in our daily lives and it's a really big deal and that's you know those mental health checks that I push so hard for and then I really want to get going and sit in to study and figure out how can we do these well can check in on that stuff and to help stop that cycle help to get people into a healthier place so that they don't become bitter and jaded and angry and more likely to do you know to be the Bad Apple as we like to say so important for people to recognize that there's an actual physical thing that's going on that's the first place I go because it feels so comforting to know this isn't me being weak or me losing it this is something physiological going on you know these cops are tempted to do overtime just because the money so great absolutely I mean hundreds of thousands of dollars a year they could literally double their pay you're doing it to avoid being at home because it's being on the job is the only place you feel functional and alive and good that's where the dangerous that's in if you're doing it because you know you're you're trying to make extra money to get that you know to take your family on a trip summer vacation or whatever absolutely like do it get that extra money that's great but if you're doing it because that's the only place you feel alive and on an alert summer vacation or whatever absolutely like do it get that extra money cuz that's great but if you're doing it because that's the only place you feel alive and on an alert you might be getting a little bit probably to a place it's not great

you feel like that sometimes when ideas come to you when you f***** up like it's almost like like as a gift from somewhere I have no idea I think all of my ideas are kind of like mistakes it's like cuz you never wake up and say today I'm going to write the email congratulations or any or any song and you kind of just it's it's all a like right moment right time like I had oh I had like eight Bud Lights right and then I took this a tiny bit of shrooms and then here it's like and then it just happens it is an accident it is just like a spur-of-the-moment type deal to where you like let me sing this be over this beat or let me make this be even and it just kind of happens I don't know what that's the flow state right when you just you can get out of your own way and you can let ideas come to you like I was talking with this dude named Joe desena he runs a Spartan Race he's really smart guy very interesting guy he does a lot of stuff for kids. What is kid programs these kids do like difficult tasks and it like to do it over summer camp it gets a better but we were talking about it and we're talk being healthy and all the benefits of being healthy sure I don't like this there's a lot to that but there's also a lot to like the person who binges and create something incredible like we're talking about Stephen King's books like some of the ones he doesn't even remember right of the best ones cuz he was on coke and drinking a f****** case of Bud like you just blast it out of his head chain smoking cigarettes and he doesn't even remember writing I think it's Cujo doesn't remember writing it like rokeri have blacked out today man that is at the end of the day it's like you know what I mean I mean Whatever Gets You Through the through the night now some people can definitely do it straight and then ideas without any influence of anything before right but I feel like sometimes things come to you when when you're like a little high at least I don't know if I would have ever thought about this at the weed out of nowhere thing to like drink and Rose are drinking you know Bud Light and then a little bit of just something else Weatherby eunos smoking a little bit of a j cuz I'm an anxious person you told me before you're not anxious person but I used to smoke a lot but now I'm not so much maybe I'll smoke watch movie and then chat but it's it's that stroke of Genius and you're like if I was not nothing in my blood right now but just blood no booze no anyting would I have thought of that and that's it that's the whole different deal it's it's it's wild really I think about the way I think of wakeboarding sure because when you wake boarding and you're on that wave if I don't wait for it but when I watch people do it before it looks awesome right when they're on that and catching those ways but then when they wipe out man they go down hard if you're bored forever magic that goes into making a record or you know if your Pantera painting or if you're a dancer of f****** cool dance moves think they're all related in some way and you can't control it and you can't say when it's going to happen but it just happens things they know other people going to enjoy and if you can just get lost in the beauty of just creating the thing and get out of your own way then these ideas will come to you but if you getting your own way you have less bandwidth for the ideas when it comes to it they it feels like this isn't it during even yours like it's like you're interacting with something they took these ideas just like if you have an idea for a new bed or some like that sometimes you just come from nowhere what is a weird where our premises from what's an idea from it's like creativity comes from the weirdest part of your brain that no one knows how to I mean there's like you cannot breathing exercises you can do all sorts of things try to stimulate it throughout the realities you can't even measure humans that other humans yeah that's exactly how you feel good that's the most there's something there yeah when you see it like when you're in concert and you see 15,000 rocking out to yourself to be a crazy feeling well whenever you know whenever you kicking somebody in the face actually just one person is like a mithril as it sounds I'm with everybody you was as well as in One Moment In Time everybody is there doing the same thing with the same energy the same good intention yes it's it's it's f****** magical you know it's weird that's what's what you doing right you know it's weird yeah that's what's what you doing right you're tapping into some magic I'm trying but that's what it is if if you if you think about what kind of alchemy is involved making the right sounds to make people feel just short cuz with a great song man you giving a person a drug

aliens are real I'm not 100% convinced I'm probably like 90% but if they are real I leave in the room for bulshit just like believe that that's a dope shirt well then f*** I'm 25 right I can't speak on anything but just looking from past experience and you know there's like drawings like even in the Mona Lisa there's a weird thing or whatever in the background and s*** but there's a spike it's a spike in like because it's getting pretty weird here the spike they think it's hard to tell because some people talk about UFOs bunch of other people hallucinate or lie like there's a lot of that are real legit UFO you get a bunch of nut just nutcases we just want to talk crazy and it would just stay there so I let me precursor this my aunt and uncle were very strict and we had to go to bed at a very strict deadlines probably 10 p.m. and I was looking out the window with my cousin and it's just a light that just stays there and then just f****** goes off I mean it just you can't explain it well if you're 70 R17 the * 16 probably how strong is this memory when you looking at it when you try to remember medium medium but I mean they're starting their took off and did something that didn't make sense to her sure and then Utah I mean their s*** happens all the time I mean even here in La I can't tell you how many times cuz I used to live in Tarzana so there was like a balcony here and it looked kind of like it sounds corny but like a classic like force field whenever you think of a force field and it just kind of goes like this and it's kind of like a dome in a circular shape and it just goes like this and goes back in in Tarzana looking down at the f****** City and I'm like how did no one else see this they might have but I was there with like f****** for other people and they saw the thing about unique events is a very unique event happened and it never happens again it's hard to remember it's hard to be sure what you saw it's hard but if aliens are visiting us like how often other doing it unique events would probably be what it would be like occasionally once every 6 months someone sees one somewhere but they're here all the time it's going to be able to know when they're being watched when they're not being watched that's why you got to wonder if it's like intentional I think there's enough talk about it now that we're probably going to find out what it is in our lifetime I never would think that before I think the government withheld information for whatever reason maybe they think people are scared maybe they think it's a threat to go to you know the National Security. Bunch of people worried that aliens are flying the time is nothing we can do about it maybe they like how the conversation they thought maybe be better to keep people in the quiet or keep me in the dark so that they don't freak out cuz there's nothing we can do about it anyway we just tell them that there's aliens are visiting us all the time that's not going to be good they're not going to pay attention to taxes and mortgage rates in the stock market and they care about uranium just the recent one they said where they can just say covered crafts that are not from this world not made on Earth we didn't make it and I think that's going to lead to more and more information coming out about it we're going to try to get a sense of understanding how long have they known how much of like all that Roswell New Mexico ship right through a text what was going on it backtracking you got to wonder if like oh we've been hiding this the whole time or this is the first time for real that we don't know this is what I like to think I like to think that the people that are in charge at the Pentagon of Patriots and they realize it's probably better especially when you're dealing with the United States this kind of turmoil that they're in right now it's crazy we were between racial turmoil and turmoil with the police in turmoil with people protesting in cities and blocking traffic is showing crazy turn while they're like no one's safe now to say yes or no and it's just Norm is Asian are you in you think about movies is just normalizing you to the idea that like the Canadian don't quote me on this but a Canadian someone in the office was like there's like seven species of aliens in the US government please fact check that for me any person though I have no idea people can get elected and still be crazy that's a problem you know what just forget it like when you hear about someone having like a really high-profile job and they say something crazy it doesn't mean they're not crazy just cuz if there is a prime minister of Israel can country they could be out of their mind what do we got until how close Defence Minister claims that aliens are real is a humanoid ask race of aliens called The Tall whites living among us you know how it would how do you feel about ghosts right when you think about like an alien sighting week if you saw an alien they never saw one again for the rest your life you would beat you it would f*** with your memory even if the only was real into your basement to go get a screw for something and you turned and you saw an apparition of a woman choose a ghost to adopt kids dark movie what is it called mother what it what is it called its 4:00 in curly 3B his two kids haven't seen that she'd well I don't want to give it away I don't give a story away but it's crazy to find these kids in the woods and racism she's a ghost and it's a picture get the best of both worlds right you get a creepy like Mom's found in you get creepy kids which are like double terrifying it might be Swedish or Norwegian or something vampire movie was it Let the Right One In I think it is or is that the American version of it Let the Right One In is a scary movie that's a scary movie right that's a vampire movie about vampire kids right is if you saw one and it was if they're just real every now and then you saw one it was right in front of you you're in the woods for go to walk your dog and you see some old man with no legs floating in front of someone what's this one about same kind of deal spoiler alert did you see something imagine if you were an ant your whole f****** life everybody's chilling working everyday chopping up leaves going out and getting popcorn whatever should have fun and then one day some person comes along like post Malone just Stomps the f*** out of that anthill to that moment all that thing is ever known was that that and he'll never even knew that it was possible for something that could have been alive for a couple weeks during a couple weeks no one's ever stomped on the NL but then it happens and you realize that there's no pattern to these things anything can happen like if you're if you're a person aliens can land you land on the White House lawn tomorrow and take over the world and there's nothing we can do about it like that could be our new normal okay f*** masks The New Normal is there's alien spaceships that hover over every city and they tell you what to do and you have to work for them now forever to the argument we're smarter than ants in comparison probably dumber than aliens are like we're done in comparison to aliens than ants are people so this is dope fire school but what the f*** is that that has to be Godlike man has always looked up for answers true and so that's that's that's why it's a scary thing because do they want to hurt us or do they are they did we come from them I don't think it's impossible I don't think it's impossible that were a product of genetic manipulation I don't know if we are I know we're definitely primates play things maybe we just look so different than every other monkey all the other monkeys are covered in hair this is this weird semi hairless monkey and who knows how to use Electronics who knows how to send a video through the Anunnaki the Nephilim or Anunnaki from planet Nibiru all that zecharia sitchin stuff you read those books no sir the books are weird man you know what's weird like there's stuff that he was saying in like I believe is like the 1970s where he was deciphering these tax and one of the things that he said is this is the craziest one of all humans were genetically engineered from lower primates and they were used to harm to a Harvest Gold and that the Anunnaki needed gold because gold is very plentiful here and very hard to find very rare on their planet and they engineered humans to might that's why people love gold so much if you think about the usefulness of gold like the best metal like why is it so valuable cuz they're pretty even the prettiest s*** like rubies are prettier than gold emeralds are pretty why is gold so goddamn expensive where does diamonds fit in the think it was I was reading about like she had a diamond and then to protect them from the sun because they were losing their atmosphere but we're losing our atmosphere and one of the things that science suggested is hanging reflective particles above above the Earth like putting them in orbit all it like over reflective dust in orbit so that it would mute out some of the effects of the Sun so that's what they suggested what he was saying in 1978 is what they suggested in like 2018 right so when they're talking about how to fix some of the global warming issues they were literally saying some of the stuff that was in this book that he reading you know he's deciphering the these ancient Sumerian texts from 6000 years ago no s*** I don't know where he is just a guy who is a linguist who studies these ancient languages and reinterpret them but it's very highly and dispute that's the problem like you are not you out URI we're not going to figure it out we're not going to lose right refute all of it I don't know who's right who's wrong but it's interesting to see the argument but again what the whatever the f*** was going on back then 6,000 years ago whatever was going on they were writing about some wacky chairman is that the rooms or is that Advanced contacted all throughout history in that famous people who the f*** knows but now if you look at the last 200 years it is accelerated like a motherfuker and there's so much like 200 years ago go and look at the Bronco or anything like that and be like what the fuc yeah what is that it happened so quick it's happening so quick right now I mean they. SpaceX thing they were they figure out how to get something to fly into the sky and then bring it back and land it it since we are in a weird f****** time and if the aliens come right now it's the probably the best time to come over we're going to be the most relaxed about it the number to work for six months are you going to say hi are you going are you going to grab your boat for sure I'm not stupid Tyler Up 3 ft tall 40 lb dude with a giant bulbous head in like antenna like fingers in his explaining how they Traverse Spinners should interpret those sounds matter what language you're in all over the world you instantaneously and turbo weeks. play the sound of a square FM78 you with some sounded so complex you would understand exactly what they're saying even though you don't know the language and everybody we like what in the f*** is going on oh my God there's a alien on the JRE and that's a big me talking to some alien and folks we going to look for something sturdy person with a wide back that's where that's what's Gately valuable gold I don't know like a redundancy bring some f****** material probably they're probably just f****** ethereal well maybe they figured out a way to make life so maybe they figured out a way how to make life where you can transfer your Consciousness and some Eternal mechanical thing bucking material probably they're probably just f****** ethereal well maybe they figured out a way to make life so maybe they figured out a way how to make life where you can transfer your Consciousness and some Eternal mechanical thing

good good to be out of the loop I think it's really why is that you live out there I really do I agree cuz you're so wild like for a dude like you it's good to be in a place where you see nature and it's probably in a way it's balancing and stuck there's just something about the the Utah mountains to like that that's a real mountain range all the time I'm a f****** entire Globe also it's like Natural Art let me see mountains than Natural Art like if you drive through the mountains it's like your tent an art gallery like a nature it's beautiful to look at its free yeah it does something to you like it excites you in a weird way you can see a waterfall coming out the side of a mountain everything is Lush and green you should go into a flowing river man that does nothing to your body Dada things your brain that lights up and that's the best especially for making music that makes sense especially for making music cuz it's just like without sounding corny it's like you you feel like you're part of something bigger but you're so insignificant and then you can just say I accept everything around me and I'm relaxed and at peace you know knowing that you're just the world spinning around you and everything happens for a reason and you can just sit there a hundred percent piece at ease and say I don't have to worry you know like I said earlier La always something going on I couldn't do it so play someone hitting you up and you know I don't want to speak on behalf of everyone in LA or from LA but there's a lot of people who kind of want to drain you and well and when it is what it is they're greedy they're concentrating on themselves and when they're constipated you know they're trying to make it to trying to get something happen right and they're ambitious and they're self-centered in that way I don't mean that as a pejorative so they always want from you right so they're draining like and when you're successful and you're a guy who's got a lot going on they think there's a rub I got to get to get the post Malone get that Rob right I got to be able to somehow or another gets what he's got hey man hit me up hey hey I'm here hey hey a Libra guy makes music using Auto-Tune

I told you my friend Jack car got it dinner of a f****** book signing he caught it for a day a day that's weird man that's what happened to his mom was in the hospital for a long time and for like weeks and his mom got sick for a day one day right even coming here getting pricked in the universe I mean you're nervous before anything right getting it even if you think it's just going to make me sit for some days I'll kick its ass even if that's true it's scary was done to the economy honestly it's terrifying and I saw you can get a fine for not wearing a mask and sometimes it's up to 600 f****** box yep that's crazy Jim's open I've seen that how did the same people that did the rest of looters I think this is the exact same people yes arresting people for opening gyms like give people that like there's going to come a certain amount of time I don't know what that time is but here we are in August it's basically August right and everything still closed how long we going to do this for we got to stay close for a year or two years left nothing so it's a complicated question cuz you don't want people to dine you don't want people to get into have diseases and get sick so I didn't you have to everybody has to live their life know everybody has to survive and if I can be able to pay their bills and this is like one of the most truly human problems we've ever faced cuz no one really knows what the right thing to do is armchair quarterbacking after it's over with people who need people died people look back on it said they should have done that so they have done that that's great and maybe maybe some people had a better idea of how to handle it but it's just guessing right now it's just guessing it's a it's like me and school having a f****** tuck in my shirt how to get detention or whatever it's weird to be forced to wear something right so that's when you feel that the mask Japan sorry Japan they they didn't shut their economy down to just wear masks I mean I would like to see like a documentary on Japan managed covid-19 but you can't find it I'll send you the article but it's pretty crazy it's it's all in how they never shut the economy down they just all wore masks Everybody follow the rules and they contained it that's the end that's I mean at the end of the day it all comes down to respect for other people sure right you shouldn't you shouldn't be forced to wear a mask but you should wear masks right as a fellow human it has nothing to do with being six hundred bucks that's what cost that some places it's 600 I saw what what is it in Beverly Hills right now three hundred bucks fine for looting three hundred bucks for not wearing a mask in Beverly Hills just hope you will feel better for now mean we got to get through this together are they giving people money or never gave any money out advertising you would give to give away rewards for people who turn in people who are not social terrible person like bro I turned you in I need the money to pay my rent meanwhile months later but the money still hasn't come if you can handle a snitch and I know I slept in a closet $300 because maybe someone sees you eating and you don't have a mask on and then you were stuck with a f****** ticket yeah that it blows my mind it's weird it's all maybe someone sees you eating and you don't have a mask on and then you were stuck with a f****** ticket yeah that it blows my mind it's weird it's all about f****** the responsibility of and your character really

they're doing the best gation of The Chainsmokers dates involved in this investigation cuz they did essentially a car show where they did they were onstage and there was like 600 cars in the audience and they did their show to people in parked cars like what the f*** is wrong with that why is that bad no f*** it let's get out of cars and stand but not play that let me see what that is a Jesus Christ This is a DJ I think for the concert Watermill ticket range from $850 to Uber VIP options for $25,000 that accommodated RVs all profits were earmarked for charity that's nice city of state of New York is now probing the concert are they probe including too or just the concert did they have a probing would happen in SoHo or just just recently I just want to know mansion party enters going around on Twitter for and down so weird now I'm still curious about that The Chainsmokers deal was it a drive in concert supposedly they sold cars they sold, but that's even on them if the people got out of the car that's the thing like was it are you supposed to enforce that if it likes it here if they only had it set as a concert without any enforcement whatsoever on how close people to do each other whose responsibility is it if people get out and start talking hey jerk off at S1 sparked and has restrooms at were disinfected every 10 minutes so awesome well 9 Minutes giving people cooties and then on the 10th some dude comes in and hose it down told BuzzFeed there were dividers separating individual parties in the pit area and that gas were also instructed they would not be allowed to leave their does designed use the restroom but obviously that's not really what if it's a driving show why is there a pit right and also that the dividers between people that's horse yet f****** the errands and give a s*** if there's like a little piece of cardboard here between you and the people next to you that your spit goes through the air and it gets to them if you got it they got it and I don't think it has to do with with the boys in the group I think it has to do with someone else that's doing cuz I know the boys in the group that's exactly what I think I think the total like it was a shitshow that just got out of hand for the shows they're cooking Burgers having a good time and then the show starts he's just pull up really close if you get away with it nothing happens if you get away with it nothing I was like oh my God it was so safe trust me it was so safe test if I don't have it after I go to that concert it was so safe it was the safest

you know I think about this imagine this scenario imagine that the that the lithology rate on this virus was like 10% like what do you have to do to convince those grocery store workers to come to work and you not point no one's coming to 72 hours to Anarchy or 72 hours to animal right it's like once you shut down those kind of supply lines right our entire mentality start to shift into a different mode it doesn't take long before you think I'm going to I'm going to take something for my neighbor at this when I'm hungry my family's hungry or cooperate with your neighbor hopefully so I have a lot of meat and so one of things that happened during the pandemic when I hit I had a lot of people come over and I gave the meat cuz I have three commercial freezers here at the studio I'll let you know you if you shoot an elk Elks 400lb me it's the great thing as long as the power stays on and I have electricity I have frozen meat so I can I can give a lot of it out cuz he got a backup generator prepared some ways and then when all this came down basically all I did is I stockpiled on a lot of dried stuff like rice pasta things that you know you can cook easily that's the thing is people get fixated on prepping as this kind of you know I built a multimillion-dollar whenever whenever spectacular stories of people here which you know I'm happy to happy to verify if you want to get into those but you know like prepping on a on a practical level like everyday prepping is just it's just common sense is it seems to be conflated with conspiracy theorists in some way like Preppers or up it's the tinfoil-hat Brigade it's like those those type of folks folks who think 5G is causing covid-19 prepping which should be just Prudence you no common sense preparing you know having something that can purify your water if everything goes weird you know I'm going camping every once in awhile the sense of what it's like to be outdoors on Poplar Tent and put your water out of a river and you know it's great to have those practical skills yeah it's as fun as long as you know it's not permanent isn't that weird well so I mean the thing about disaster right is it if if it has an endpoint it's something that we can cope with write it you know like send message to ballistic missile with incoming right to imagine we get that message right now and you're like well brand we actually have a bunker underneath this the studio right so you go into the bunker in it but we know after LA snooped right as gone that if we stay in this bunker for 14 days the radiation levels are going to be a fraction of what they were when that new kid right so so you have an appoint there we have to make it today 14 and that's why people are psychologically cope with that situation right now like what it we have when is the endpoint like that's why people are cracking is a good can't see the end of it it's terrible statistic the other day I was reading online about all the different businesses that have been impacted weed know what's happening with comedy clubs it was just gas work right now but I think in Los Angeles a lot of them are probably going to wind up going under across the country a lot of them are going to wind up going under restaurants I had the owners of Felix and the head chef Evan in the owner Janet on the the podcast recently and they were explaining how guilt is a really great restaurant Venice that almost every restaurant operates with a very small amount of profit you know that their profit margin what did 15% 14 % like that so imagine all the sudden that's cut 2-0 for several months and then your ass. Occupy 50% of your restaurant which is obviously going to diminish your profits radically as well but gets a visit just a survival game and there's no end in sight right so here we are in July no one anticipated this in March we thought you know by the time June rolls around everything's going to be up and running no here we are July lockdown again and if there's even talk of another stay-at-home order in Los Angeles which is even scarier to it so let's get back to your conspiracy theories if someone told you that we would be in the situation a year ago would you believe them sure you would have thought I would have a pandemic seems like a real talk to these doctors that work with these viruses and they scared the s*** out of us we did we went down there for a television show that we're doing for Syfy and it was basically on the idea of weaponized viruses that the the basic premise of the show was it would have someone engineered virus released it on her on you know on the country like a weaponized virus and they said that's not what we have to worry about we have to worry about his nature that's we have to worry about turns out both because this virus most likely had fermilab what we're dealing with covid-19 according to my friend Brett Weinstein who is a biologist and he detailed on a podcast but it did with him all of the different points of evidence that lead to what he believes is a very likely scenario that it was released from accidentally released from a lab and not actually for wet Mark at the wet markets to cover up like diseases to Advanced it it has too many Hallmarks and indicators of a virus that have been bird with for study for free for studying the lab and for the examinations and all the different tests they would run and so you got both those things right you if you have the possibility of something just more thing in nature like many other pandemics that have happened in the past and then what we have now which is this weird virus it doesn't make any sense when we were talking about all the different different symptoms of people get from it neurological problems blood clotting I was reading it over there saying that people that have died from covid-19 done autopsies on the thumb blood clots in every major organ and they they they look like this is astonishing like this is so weird yet does he have a liver kidney but just blood clots everywhere it's like people are hemorrhaging it's is very strange it's a strange bucket virus and the the transmissibility is that word the transmission is find so it's so contagious ridiculously contagious virus out once we went to that Center for Disease Control I started getting scared I saw the 2015 Bill Gates Ted Talk on pandemics in about that with the possibility of a pandemic and I got scared of it too so I would have thought it's possible impossible so here's the thing regardless of where this virus came from you have to imagine that there are government and individuals who are now keyed into how effective this visit this virus was at kripalu crippling capitalist economies because the thing the thing is we created Pathways right I mean it's international flights international trade its people moving around its its you know the neoliberal global capitalist system that we built over the past 30 years that created the pathways that they took the virus everywhere at once right so if the where to be a test run it's now proven to be extremely effective and so you have to imagine the governments around the world probably including the United States or thinking we'll what up you know how could how could we weaponize this potentially and this is nothing that I have been multiplied exponentially right in the past in the past you know who Post Road to write we had I mean this is the first episode of global catastrophe right you know world world war but then once we develop nuclear weapons and we're just past the 75th anniversary of the the Trinity test now you know once we create that ability to destroy ourselves and potentially the entire world we have to live with that with the possibility of that happening right now on top of that climate change synthetic biotech or something that we have to kind of holding our heads all the time I think it's cracking us mentally to like think about these possibilities so yeah I need some of the preppers are conspiracy theorists right and there's that they're spending some really outlandish scenarios but a lot of them are just trying to work through these things right and rather than get caught in this kind of Perpetual future tense like you know thinking about something terrible happening they're trying to take action now in the present and that gives them some sense of a piece right like it gives them a sense of like it gives him some solid footing in the present and a lot of the Preppers I talk to you where are not actually very anxious or paranoid at all right because they have a plan it's those of us who don't have a plan that are that are Bang sjes Emma told me is that this was a mid-level crisis right about that right I mean if Yellowstone blows this is going to look like a cakewalk for the power grid we got real problems this is minor in comparison when you look at the the actual fatality rate for healthy people is very very low you know it's less than 1% much less than half of 1% for most healthy people so when you look at what would happen if Yellowstone blows that's a continent killer. I mean I mean we're talking about volcanic volcanic ash cloud in the sky red herrings of our time that you know that all of these wealthy people are going to flee to New Zealand and find safety there also find it totally ironic that a lot of them are so you know libertarian free market capitalism are quite happy to make money off this system but when it goes wrong they want a really strong government to clamp down and take care of it libertarian free-market capitalist that are quite happy to make money off this system but once it goes wrong they want a really strong government to clamp down and take care of it and Wildlife Resources and real natural beauty

situation is shockingly under-covered oh my God and the video of the the Chinese Ambassador in Britain they asked on the BBC about that tape the BBC interview or shows him the tape of the people being pushed onto trains right and he says what is this and the Chinese Ambassador says I can't see it I'm not sure what you're talking about this is where in the world the whole that this or that undercover in this morning world is the is the blowback on the NBA gave to Daryl Morey that did Houston Rockets game for Century Hong Kong and Cuban said something like well you know I don't want to I don't want to get involved in the internal affairs of another country. Dad is not an internal affairs question it's one thing to Santa want to get involved in the tax rates by country is nothing to say Shannon Fields had shipping them on trains to concentration camps where you force them into labor and sterilize them and so much of the money that they generate is because of China I mean the NBA films there's a there's so much so much of our culture that kowtows to China were so connected to them that's one of things that we really found out from this pandemic is how many things are built their how much are medicine how much we rely on China will help him out economically will have mutual trade it'll be good for both of us and to liberalize because once they realize it's good to be part of the world economy then they won't be tired anymore instead they took all the chips off the table and said she is the most powerful

when you look at people that are anti-capitalist the relena socialism 1 things you find is a lot of rich kids that's weird it's because they don't understand real struggle because they've grown up without it and they have these ideals like to feel guilty because they've grown up without struggle and they want to help the world and they think capitalism is evil and I never saw my dad so we need to need to get all these rich people need to give that money to all these poor people and we need people around the world white people are in socialism and socialism tend to be upper class upper middle class people probably got a reason to not like them but then they assume all white people are the same and you end up seeing this you know racialization of politics also they find themselves in a position of affluence and they didn't earn they want to burn it all the ground yep you notes and they assume you know what I think there's some truth in that you know that does people have money they can earn and they're leeches on the system they make money from money they've never done anything in their lives or arrogant sure there's a lot of people like that but you know take that generalization and apply it to anyone who has money or everyone front and you take it to a dark place exactly when I when I first started you know entering the public space in terms of news in politics of Occupy Wall Street and before I did any notoriety I was being heralded they called me a good example of what's wrong with system hears Tim Poole High School Dropout mixed-race guy and he is just leaving in a dirt Park using his phone and tell the real stories of the world after I got featured in Time Magazine what they say pimple is white I was going to silver spoon by which is not true is absolutely not true but the the the Socialist types activist couldn't accept that I had you know jump there that the class system I guess their view of the world as rigid that the rich people keep the poor down there's no chance rapper mobility and it's not the case you know you have absolutely can become successful from you no homo mean one of my favorite quotes was her talking about it's literally impossible to pull yourself up by your bootstraps when she used to be a waitress and houses or congresswoman it's not impossible but it's not even that's what we need to dress it's not even the reality is some people have a far easier path absolute some people of a far more difficult path it's just easier this is just but you have to deal with the hand you're giving if a life is a game and why I'm not saying it's a game it is life but it's similar to a game and that you're dealt a set of cards you're dealt a set of circumstances and yes some people just get four aces from birth year dad's a multi-billionaire in your whole family's always been rich and you never have to worry about a goddamn thing for the rest of your life will guess what those people turn out to be f****** miserable and crazy there's some benefit and being born this shity hand of cards as a motivational benefit for sure gumption perseverance and it's true now I think there is there's always going to be certain limits based on your ability like I'm never going to play in the NBA tall enough nowhere near as fast and jump high enough guy skateboard but you take people who don't have top-tier intelligence not the strongest but if they work hard enough they can find their their Apex they can find that point where they are successful and they can make it I prefer everybody some people are are below that to that threshold no matter how hard they try they're going to need help I think those are problems with any sort of generalization you know perseverance is the most important thing yes sure have to be intelligent can't be doing the same thing over and over again. I'm not going to quit have to be able to figure out what you're doing wrong as well as have perseverance perseverance is a necessary part of the equation but there's many pieces to that question but define success in that regard depends on the field that you're choosing right if you're not smart enough to be an astrophysicist shouldn't be an astrophysicist I think the average person has the potential and capabilities of being successful wealthy if they want famous I think we're that one of the challenges we have in our culture is power raising kids and what words what the values were giving them what's also what are you trying to do like what are you saying there's a bunch of different things that you could just you just don't have to like some people can't sing in talent I just don't have it their voice sounds like but guess who else is voice sound like s*** Bob Dylan terrible voice probably probably well you know there is there are there a lot of people especially in the internet Dane age that you would not expect to have made it who made it there's a lot I mean there's rules today that I don't think really hold true you know people say do you know you have to be good-looking have to be thin-walled Adele's Nothin she is what was your name that was on America's Got Talent America's Got Talent right and but she belted out the song that made Simon Cowell cry over and over again to keep bombing and then you know she never would have made it yeah I can't learn something bad is it if you can learn if you can you know what were the problems do people refuse to accept when they're wrong they did not they don't have an analytical perspective in terms of their own issues they can't analyze themselves and see the flaws and be objective and introspective some people just don't have that because they've been protecting themselves they have these personality traits to protect themselves from self-deprecation from understanding where they're flawed when I was a teenager I reading that Michael Jordan would watch tapes of himself playing to figure out what did wrong I do if it's true but to me that was like if you want to be the best items you need to actively look for what you're screwing up call out immediately if that's imperative for sparring when you're sparring like we used to film a lot of back when I was competing lucasfilm's morning sessions in fights particular fights but sparring sessions was critical because you could see how you were telegraphing something and then you got countered you could see how it sometimes you don't think you're doing it then you realize you'd be better off seeing massive his gigantic self is like primer that's number one a little bit little bit the last good is listening to yourself and at a certain point in time in your career you can get away with just listening turns of like but there's a big difference between people who monitor their stuff and go over it and analyze it versus people don't it's just it's it's accelerated learning it's like taking advantage of all the tools that you're given and you can apply that to anything that you're trying to do live if you have the time in the energy if you were doing a job and during his job you know you just show up at work and try to do your best and you go home you f*** off and do stuff you'll get better at whatever you do exactly but if you go and do your job and then afterwards analyze what you did pay attention to it write things down make a diary perhaps or review your work and real you'll get better faster it's a matter of how much time is long as you turn out I don't take days off ever I took a day off yesterday had some bad Sushi everybody if if they're really nice to me but you know maybe maybe lay off Sushi if they've been closed for a month because of pandemic and will you driving from the other side of the country text I don't take a day off and a lot of people say I'm crazy and I've actually in my Monday through Friday is now double shifts every day then Saturday and Sunday or single shifts in terms of production so I do Monday through Friday 3 hours and 40 minutes about Saturday and Sunday is about an hour and 40 minutes and and what would I do if I wasn't working. He playing video games and then an hour and a half half of recording is like 10 hours of research I'm doing research in between fact-checking and then I work like once I get everything in line and I think I'm confident I'm going to let you know when I have it and of course I'm right I'm not perfect then I record for about 20 minutes then I get back to researching reading and I you know so it's it's another benefits yourself whatever you see what you do whatever you do I tell my friends every second you spend doing something as an investment it being better than better at that so if you want to come home from work and play video games all day you'll be really good at video games maybe you can make some money or maybe there's something you want to do that instead of playing video games you do that instead for me when I'm not working I'm just sit around like why am I not working what it like what am I doing you know I didn't work today cuz we're doing the show and so I'm sitting sitting around watching TV shows like this is awful I got to read the news man I got it I got to be driven but also you're enjoying it that's the difference between someone who's working and f****** coal mine or somebody's working in a field all day picking strawberries and I hate the job but you know people hit me up what you do you know when I was working for Vice World 10:20 emails every week from young people saying I really want to do what you do and you know that you know what what they would say to me when I was telling how to do it there was that would never do that I would tell them here to do do you have any money saved up no okay where do you work you don't work get a job Starbucks McDonald's whatever you can get maybe you can do better than that save your money once you save enough find a store you want fly there cover it you know I had one don't do what you do how do I do it I said you have money saved up yes excellent there's a story right now going on in Turkey all right you got to be secure you got to be safe but it's in both fairly okay fly there right now film it and you know I'll see if I can make any connections on what you find. They said will the money I saved it from my apartment in Brooklyn and I'm like right with more important you have in your nice Williamsburg apartment or being a journalist traveling on the world while I like my apartment, okay listen what I work for vice I was sleeping on a couch everytime they paid me I put in the back I didn't touch it I got a job working for Disney and ABC News joint-venture company after that they paid me a bunch of money I put 70% back in touch it when I left I went to a bunch of these New York digital companies you know I will spare them their names for any embarrassment many of them have become rather worthless exist and they're big and I decided after seeing what they had to offer the bias that is deception the baker the nature of it myself money every step of the way I was able to do so so that I had an apartment that I could pay for my plane ticket you know to to Sweden to France Germany to do these stories and started building up a base within about seven or eight months I had gone from red to Black so now all of a sudden I was no longer losing money of making money and I'm like there is a couple years on ridiculous ridiculous ridiculously successful funny shattered a fundraising record of a million bucks in a single day so that's that that's the path Army in the path of everybody but sacrifice you know what you're basically saying exactly what they're saying tedtalk perseverance what do you really prioritize for me what are you trying to do so you know what it's also like who are who is the type of person that would chase down or he's the type of person is really going to chase down the stories of person is driven to chase down stories what you're getting is questions from idiots you're getting questions from people do you how do I do it and then when you offer the answer I'm not going to do that taking care of the financial needs and you know for like a year and a lot trying to see far they can get in their career if they didn't have to deal with money and I said that's the problem is the type of person who's going to make it is going to make it not just in spite of the fact that they don't have any money but because of the fact they don't have any money day jobs those sucky jobs that you need to have when you're struggling those they f****** motivate you they're important and so it just comes along and gives you all the money you need for food you're going to have facets and some hungry guy in the other side of town is take all the gigs that you would get there going to write better jokes are going to be more motivated to go to open mics they're going to pound the pavement harder like a story for you my buddies company so forgive me if I'm wrong but he had a social media management company he started himself he knew everything about social media Instagram and all that and he started building the client base where I'm going to run your social media for you work like a charm hiring a couple College grads and he put up the ad saying in a college degree required they couldn't figure anything out they kept calling him having problems could manage anything we fire them rehires again more College grads same problem eventually have to fire him then he hires because he hires to I just couldn't find good people they worked swimmingly is amazing no phone calls no problems people who had worked hard save dat money in their small Bumpkin Hometown move to Los Angeles to make it big they knew what they wanted they knew what they had to do and they said I will find a way to do it is at the other people are hiring or just like drones they wanted the job they didn't know or care what they were doing that it bothers they want to learn but these people who are driven view this as just another problem to be solved on my path to success that's that's the mindset and that's the difference the mindset of success has the mindset of I will figure it out so I think the problem is how we're raising people in this country we're raising them to certain areas to expect things to be given to you you get a participation trophy no matter what you do you congratulations you lose in the problem socialism and is the problem with universal basic income over talked about particularly without any Financial feasibility there's no there's no real logic tour that money comes from like show me your work is right have more socialist I think they just regular urban-dwelling like liberal F-Type people there's one viral post on Reddit at said you've got these conservatives or you got these people are protesting so they can enrich their landlords and the these billionaires when they should be demanding that rent be waived that mortgages you know when evictions be canceled at the government take care of their needs and provide them with skim milk or something like that and I look at that like you very clearly do they understand as they say things like your landlord is in a job that there's a lot of very successful landlord to make a ton of money and do very little but it's a f****** job right is what you want that these people want the government to be reopened in are simply trying to enrich the welfie so I think maybe they make things and they want to keep making things they want they want their economy not the government that don't seem to understand when you live in a city everything's already there for you when I lived in New York the Williamsburg Bridge boom there it is I didn't see it built I didn't pay a dime for it and I can just use it I can cross over it's just there and I've never tried to fight for it so you just say why can't I just have it you said you walk in any store there's food hey this food easy but they don't see is a supply chain where the food is made the work that goes into it so they assumed that money guarantees access to it which it doesn't if the economy is shut down the money can't buy you things the value that might have going down if the Farms can't sell any of this to anybody and start dumping and I think all the following Fields no longer farming then there's nothing to buy so if products aren't I'd Services aren't being rendered because the economy is closed what is your money going to get you at a certain point when the economy is shut down for too long and we're seeing all of these businesses close family business as I heard a story terrible tragedy of somebody killed himself because there's their family business at 70 years was shut down that net product is Gone So eventually there's no food to buy and only then will people realize the government stimulus money has no inherent value it's it's the work we do for each other that's the argument being left out when you when you get a biased view on social media years with shutdown that product is Gone So eventually there's no food to buy I only then will people realize the government stimulus money has no inherent value it's the work we do for each other that's the argument being left out when you when you get a biased view on social media or when these people don't quite understand you know

but then there are the people who are selling the antidote to their fears in the book I call these people to dread Merchants right the people who are going to sell you the bunker you know Jim Bakker and the base of a table and just in case my TV more than one by yelling maybe got a big family maybe you want to go Old Testament of tickets really weird have you ever seen the the Vic Berger remixes of the gym Dayton man they are so much fun I got really addicted to those when I was working on this project Mercy back in the 1980s I mean I remember that remember the Jim Bakker it like he had had an affair with this woman and it became for whatever reason is big news I like the same guy we still expected people to be guided by has anything anymore no one admits anything anymore yes I love that one 6 buckets can you get a table at the food or she just get the Bible one bucket of Bibles in five buckets of food but I love watching and feed the audience you know what the jacket from the giant trough real good freeze-dried food that'll last forever yeah and hitting and they do a big thing of rice and then they mix it all together could have slop is poured on top of Google Peak refuel, this is my friend Chad Mendes has a really delicious company that they make actual is it freeze dry thinking stuff is freeze dried or dehydrated I'm not sure but the people are doing it now you can keep the stuff forever this is my buddy add stuff this is really good for you it's actually delicious and healthy and he's doing mylar bags to that's it that's much better than doing bucket great guy who's actually Hunter and he makes every everything's organic and really healthy and when you read constitute it actually tastes good by that Jim Bakker bulshit and they were this is a budding prepper community and they had built this this 50 foot Fountain ringed by the Four Horses of the Apocalypse in a town with like 300 people you know they bought all this land it's like it was a square mile of land and it had these these green lagoons in there that were dredged out for for grazing cows at some point and they were going to revitalize these into these kind of like crystal blue friends with white beach sand and they're going to build a bunker community in there called Trident Lakes so the the lakes are the the blue lagoons and he told me that they hurt their plan was to do a kind of Outer Perimeter wall around this that was going to be a a giant berm around shipping containers so essentially the wall would be Hollow and he said he was going to fill it with buckets of food and whatever would be Hollow and he said he was going to fill it with buckets of food and whatever I kept imagining you know Jim Baker's Bible bucket just two lined up down the wall

I've done in the past particularly with the Urban Explorer has got me into a lot of trouble I mean I got arrested my all of the people that I worked with end up getting arrested because the police got my f****** notes and I mean it was a it was a terrible terrible situation while I was I was underneath London and after we went into those sewer systems then we got into electricity tunnel then we started getting into bunkers under the city so you know five layers under the city right so we could we go from the sewers to the electricity souls to the infrastructural systems to the bunkers and then we started getting into what are called Deep level systems right and they're cut they're they're very similar to the bunkers that the US government is building here that they called they called dumb deep underground military bases right we started getting into like Siri critical infrastructure at some point how easy was it to get into those hits it took us years it took us years there's a quite a lot of research but I mean at some point we got into what are called the BT deep level tunnels British telecommunications deep level tunnels and we were like inside the Telecommunications trunk for all of the United Kingdom you know and at this point we're like you know a hundred feet underground 20 feet underground we're actually we're walking through this tunnel about you know about a hundred feet underground and one of the Explorers I was with his like there's a there's a manhole above us it's like what it what do you mean there's a manhole above us. We're like we're in the deepest level right now and we pop this manhole and a camera swivel do you know and stares at us what we did it was just it was just telecommunication hubs right it's just like the trunk of all of the the the the infrastructure for fiber optics and phone lines and they just have an exposed manhole cover and a tunnel that you can get to it we wiggled through like we wiggled from tunnel to Tunnel like through tiny crevices we were getting into like the Deep underbelly of the city I mean it was not it was not easy to get to but but here's the thing at the same time we have been cracking all of the the abandoned tube stations Metro stations in so we took a we took a map of the tube from 1932 and we set a map from 2008 on top of it and what you see or a bunch of stations that are no longer on the map right that's your first clue cuz they're like 40 some then we then we started doing research and we figured out that their there's got to be at least fourteen stations that still have like ticketoffices or platforms like there's something there that you could find so we started sneaking into the two to go and find these places like we would wait till the train stopped at 2 in the morning and then we would like climb up a bridge and get onto the tracks would run through the tunnels and refining me stations one after another incredible time capsules you know where there were artifacts Left Behind posters like we find tickets on the ground from morning 40 years old you know I mean really cool stuff some of that were bombed out during World War II but find Lisa's like again this kind of like like here's the archaeologist amiright like we were having his visceral connection history we're finding the stuff that was giving us like a real sense of being inside history in material terms so we're posting every time we crack one of these stations we posted our blogs like always you know we've cracked Mark Lane we've cracked down street we've cracked whatever and we're all excited about it and and like the windows naira and we we get we get towards the end of the 14 stations and we're starting to think you know like the cops are surely watching what we're doing right the British transport police and kind of know where we're going to go next cuz you only a few stations left so we stop posting stuff and on Christmas of 2012 we cracked the last station underneath the British museum like there's all sorts of cool stories about like there was a there was a ghost haunted station whatever but we did it we never got caught so for me this is the end of the research projects actively prosecuted search Project right like I'm Switching gears I'm going to go do something else and I fly back from Cambodia via Singapore and the plane lands at Heathrow and you know the thing goes of can you stand up and you get your bags and then nothing's happening and they say can everyone please sit down again I sit down I look out the plane and there's cop cars everywhere and I'm like oh s*** you know I came from Singapore someone brought drugs and the cops get on the plane and they're like 42k 42k Dr Garrett yeah you're coming with us okay so they cost me they they have me like retrieve my bag from the baggage claim and they take me through through passport control in handcuffs and obviously the UK government's like yeah we will go ahead and keep that passport thank you so they eventually charged me with conspiracy to commit criminal damage what's weird about England is a trespass isn't a criminal offense so you can't you can't charge people to trespass unless you're in very specific circumstances so they tried out this charge of conspiracy to commit criminal damage because it's it's about intention is thoughtcrime like if I text you and I'm like hey dude you know the bar is closed right now to say covid you want to break in and just like for ourselves a beer and you're like yeah let's do it like we've committed conspiracy to commit Criminal we've committed to you the crime so anyway four years were dragged through the British legal system and I got trapped in the UK for three years the plane landed at Singapore there was a journalist from GQ it was supposed to meet us cuz we were going to take him into some of this Subterranean infrastructure and show him all the space and he's like you know by the time I got out of jail like 48 hours later I had I have all these messages from like you ask who I came I showed up at the airport and you weren't there and whatever you do and I finally find this guy Matthew power and and he's like are you serious like you got cuz we had timed it to land at the same time and we unlock the door with these keys police giving me because they took down my door with a battering ram right and then you know like put some padlocks on their that they drilled into the the door in the door frame and I open it up in my apartment has just been ravaged right like stuff ever the mattress is flipped over all the cupboards are torn apart is like pieces of the door all over the floor and underneath all of it there was a job contract from the University of Oxford to do a postdoc after I text I just finished my PhD and the journalist I can go home right now I've got the story I don't need the wrestler anything I'm done and how did it resolved by the time we got to court and the prosecution was just in shambles and he was a total debacle because there was no evidence that we had a broken anything you know or into the next see it to the end and essentially you know they got They confiscated my computer's my hard drives my notebooks and that was a that was a central component of the evidence that was used to prosecute everyone so essentially like I just made a deal with them I was like look I'll I'll take a hit you know if you'd like if everyone else can just get off you know I'll take the hit for it so I plead guilty to no damage which included damage to his screw from a board that I had taken off and put back on to a vent shaft sliding open a window oh that was aiding and abetting side open the window for someone to crawl through this like a list of ridiculous things but they didn't care they needed there filed the complaint with the government and you know they would like severely harass me and then when I moved to Australia had the same problem like they put flags on my passport when you file a complaint and did it go through and I filed the complaint and they fixed it they took the flags off the passport yeah you know I did my thing you know yet like why do I have to keep paying for the over and over again the judges like dr. Garrett you're very naughty or whatever you know here to hear to take your passport back to have wigs on yes they're really good that's real ideas I was the obvious speaker right the guy swipes it and he's like oh yeah you don't want to use this what is it say what is the screen saying I can't I can't relay that but you should probably go back and then I could not get on the plane so then I I miss my flight and I had to go back I had to go to the US Embassy and I'm like at you I've just try to fly with my passport and it doesn't work at the embassy swipes at nieces oh wow and then I'm going to gets out a hole puncher and it goes right through my passport and he says you shouldn't use that and then like 3 hours later they gave me another passport and I flew out the next and the passwords London attack the flags on their later like you get worried about your income I was worried about being. They did try to deport me at some point cuz once you have a criminal offense down not too bad not a big deal shirt made some money off the boat if not I'm going to make some now I made I made all the money that I made on my first book explore everything went to my lawyers so I have to say we're phenomenal like they did a great job but it was like every time I get a royalty check I just sign it over to him and it did seem like karma is like well I broken all this s*** and I wrote a book and then the money went to the lawyers in the lawyers got me off and it all kind of worked out my first book Explorer everything went to my lawyers do I have to say we're phenomenal like they did a great job but it was like every time I get a royalty check I just sign it over to him and it did seem like karma is like well I broken all this s*** and I wrote a book and then the money went to the lawyers in the lawyers got me off and it all kind of worked out

I don't know if you agree with this there's kind of kids along the way growing up as I was building my business that was how I'm not into this I'm not into that kind of like you describe yourself and they don't do anything because they're looking for that thing and I would argue do something until you find that thing small things other people wanted to do for a living like the path like a career path but I think that there's a lot of people that don't have any there's no one there they're not modeling there life after someone that they see that they admire someone that successful someone that is doing something that they enjoy In Love sometimes kids have to see that and if their parents are living a b******* life and their neighbors living a b******* life and most their family lives a b******* life stages can laying around you know and then they they seek refuge and drugs or video games or something that stimulates them and video games are real problem they're real problem you know why because they're f****** fun then you don't yeah well I'm I have a real problem with them and you you you do them and they're real exciting but you don't get anywhere it's like you could do like like martial arts right you could learn Jiu-Jitsu you get upset but you just two and then three years later you are you're like an elite G to athlete you like you're entering and competitions you're a purple belt be moving up yeah you're doing well you thinking like I might be able to open my own school one Jack confidence if I have a hundred students and those hundred students are paying me x amount of dollars per month I can make a living holy s*** I can have this would be amazing and then you see your school and your jiu-jitsu instructor has all these you doing something exciting and fun and you or you can just later you can beat that same kid just playing video games waiting for the next Dick's whatever the f*** game is next Xbox game to come out and you're going to waste your time you have children I don't have children and a big battle in that you're going through this but my kids are now saying will Dad this guy made all this money with this video game that he's a male to you know like I heard the same arguing about comedy might you know my my own parents were like to know if you people make it as a comedian I was like okay it's just anybody make it somebody makes it right that you can figure out how to do it they make 11 I'm going to do that. I know what I'm doing I was real lucky that my parents were not around very much so I didn't get much advice so I guess I figured it out myself so there was no one telling me I couldn't do it so Greenfield I'm going to find my way since no one's telling me it's impossible no one tell me I can't occasionally I'll hear someone say what are the odds in this f****** loser that's my thought was always like that guy's a loser like if you think like that you're a loser but there are kids that make a lot of money playing video games but the thing is like you have to be adaptable the one video game that you get really good at what are the odds has come to around five years from now like fortnite after that and then there is a Call of Duty and make money off that what's the big money Starcraft used to be the big one right that League of Legends counter strike mod basically the same exact game they don't make money off quick do right not really game

how to get to know that the economy limit asthma is more than so I knew all the lawyers and I went over to Bimini one day to 2 to get some real information about them because they couldn't in the US they were scared to talk so I located through a defense lawyer and they had a lot of speed boats floating going out of there every night at the hotel towards the timmys very close to Miami and I was doing coke at that time when my wife I miss you as my cover and I you know and I Hollywood scream well he been a defense lawyer when I talk to him but in the past he been the prosecutor is that prosecutors off and flipped to defense attorneys to make more money so when I mentioned that name the two of these three guys got really uptight and they walked in the bathroom and I didn't know put on my way so a few minutes went by there and it was pretty hairy but I think I was paranoid because they came out and they didn't have guns in their hands but they they cut the meeting off and I went back to my room they were staying in the same Hotel all night I was tense because say the wrong word sometimes in your debt that's that's the kind of tension I wanted for this movie I put it into the scene early in the picture with mr. Pacino and Alec and what goes into get naked pick up making a trade and he says you know he senses something's off in this meeting in the undp comes that blood bloodbath with the dismemberment remember moments where I was like this is a real opportunity for us to come together and one of them was the moment the lockdown happened it it felt to me very similar to right after 9/11 where everybody was confronted with their own mortality holyshit like we we might be on the verge of a pandemic like in a movie where a lot of the people we know died and here we have to be kind to each other even at this is what's important family is important and I remember thinking I've never been closer to my family never my friends were calling each other all the time we were it was like it was there was there was real hoping that I was like if we get through this we're going to be tired of going to know what means something what counts. Fuc stand-up comedy f*** everything else man would what's important is Love and Friendship then it started to get angry only took like three or four weeks where people started getting like they were scared of people started getting shittier with each other online and then I basically turn off Twitter loves like this is just too toxic into hostile the second moment more thought we had the opportunity to come together was George Floyd So George Floyd died and all the sudden you have these black lives matter protest and maybe we could finally make a dent on racism maybe we can finally make a dent in police brutality maybe this is a moment where we can come together and realize what's important is community solidarity that in this together like this is cray and then the cops need to be reformed like they can't live like an ID we should take it into account PTSD maybe we should take into account the fact that these f****** guys are pulling up on people every day that might shoot him in the face they might never be able to see their family and their kids let's rework this let's think this s*** through Amazon the most Wing newspaper in America and you like not good enough okay I'm on board I'm taking this thing really seriously about parents in their sixties I feel like you know I'm in good health I'm fairly Young on 36 but for my parents ravage Spain it it ravaged New York like they're there a couple things you shouldn't don't take the old and send it back into the nursing beyond that by just staying away from each other and totally different things like this, kind of common tentacle stuff that people have known since the flu pandemic single human being watched that tape and then think okay that guy deserves to go to jail shopping rather the officer in that case in Georgia can I get hired at different places or solution but they quickly turn from Solutions are bad idea what we need to do is we need to shout about everything we can possibly imagine all at once and you know what was George Washington a bad guy a rigid concrete hardwired map speak is like damaged so I asked Eddie about this Chang my friend this neurosurgeon who is Premier world not kind of he is the world expert on Speech & Language in the neural Transformations and how control all that stuff and I said what's with the up speak thing he said yeah you know we see that sometimes and I'm concerned about that and when a neurosurgeon tells you their concern and this is what he just thinks that the map which shows up kind of normally and in a mimosa by the first time in human history people have used this up speak human history was on the phone with this lady who is doing speak when she was talking and we both looked at each other like it does kind of create a kind of visceral like like nauseous because most of us are clearly at least mostly influenced by the people around us this is not just that it's like you changed how you talk to fit in with this there's a tech world there's Tech language that's text speak it's English but it's text speak English it's letting you know and there does seem to be a body responds to I know what you're doing I think I think Eddie would say that there's some Distortion in the way they're using this map but how did it start I think it started with one really smart person who's probably a little autistic who talk like that because they were trying to keep it together and then everyone else like I want to be a smart-ass John and then they start talking like that and then it became a thing I like broken Wingers I like helping folks that I had a I grew up in Queens and end in Howard Beach and it was for whatever reason organized crime capital of world and it's going to sound crazy but my neighbor was one of the big bosses and one day when I was preteens he said to me know the best thing we can do on this Earth to help people is a guy to kill people for a living and because that that was hit his perspective but it stuck with me and help people one of those people I help it sometimes even people that are just you would look at me like they're bad people they have some good advice like even morons can occasionally say something like all right I got that you know like every now and then like even even a real fool will say something that makes a whole lot of sense he changed my life this guy he he he said to meet my parents were going through a divorce 12 years old and he he wants to help me Sweet Sue's come over you're going to clean our swimming pool for us not to pay a $35 a week so I come over on Saturday morning Scizorite the first lesson sit me down for lessons first lesson is if you're going to come at 8 a.m. you show up 7:45 right on time is late great lesson for Life second lesson is if I'm paying you to clean the pool I want you to straighten up the shed straighten up all the lawn furniture clean the windows to whatever the f*** you have to do but make it today get home I can't live without you you are irreplaceable as far as a service provider and number three never asked for money you'll get paid if you do a good job and just stuck with me for life in it and really really good lessons from and like you say lifetime most unlikely source I can't live without you you are irreplaceable as far as a service provider and number three never asked for money you'll get paid if you do a good job and just stuck with me for life in it and really really good lessons from and like you say lifetime most unlikely source

I like helping folks that you know I had I grew up in Queens and in and Howard Beach and it was for whatever reason organized crime capital of world and it's going to sound crazy but my neighbor was one of the big bosses and one day when I was preteens he said to me know the best thing we can do on this Earth that help people is a guy to kill people for a living and because that that was hit his perspective he would help people even though walk with me and help people so this was one of those people I helped isn't it sometimes even people that are just you would look at me like they're bad people they have some good advice like even morons can occasionally say something like huh all right I got that you know like every now and then like even even a real fool will say something that makes a whole lot of sense he changed my life this guy hehehe course I'm 12 years old and he he wants to help me suizas come over you're going to clean our swimming pool for us not to pay you $35 a week so I come over on Saturday morning Scizorite the first lesson sit me down for lessons first lesson is if you're going to come at 8 a.m. you show up 745 right on time is late great lesson for Life second lesson is if I'm paying you to clean the pool I want you to straighten up the shed straighten up all the lawn furniture clean the windows where the f*** you have to do but make it so that when I get home I can't live without you you are irreplaceable as far as a service provider and number three never asked for money you'll get paid if you do a good job and just stuck with me for life in it and really really good lessons from and like you say like the most unlikely source of advice genuinely good guys they were just in a f*****-up line of work and fuctupmind work well you know a lot of them thought of themselves as soldiers you know they really did they thought of themselves as soldiers in an ancient war that you know we're not going to understand you're not you're not talking about people that are shaking people down for money I'm talking about you know people who were doing work for other organized crime and they looked at the government is criminals as well they are like they're all criminals Wall Street you don't think they're f****** criminals that was the exact as a young person growing up in that I was the exact narrative I heard as I was being indoctrinated that the government was just as bad they kill people from these guys as what they were saying it was Wall Street does it with a pen what the f*** are you looking at this guy ended up giving me 700 customers by the time I graduated college that were that were mostly connected to and and I became friends with all these guys and thinking back you're in this neighborhood they got money respect beautiful cars like I want to do that that's the problem with that and you know what young kids growing up around gang members are drug dealers I can look at that and you like they they have things that I don't have and they live this life to get respect from people and I feared you know it looks attractive and and one of the bosses wife said to me one day cuz I know I was alluding to like and how do I how do I get my might make my how do I get my might make my bones and she said this isn't free I have red hair light skin a real side dark hair dark skin and this isn't for you to stick with cleaning pools this is from the wife

pull the whole world the whole world crippled are, and we are the worst at it if you look at all the other country at no one's going to worst job at dealing with this pandemic do you think it expose I didn't get exposed our weaknesses sure right Health weaknesses and our financial weaknesses as a lot of our weaknesses afterwards which ignite most likely is one of the factors in the kickoff of the virus again the second wave of it you know there's a lot going on you know and then also people don't like to be told what to do here so will I f*** you I'm going to go out f*** you I'm going to spring break f*** you I'm going to Florida talk to you I'm not wearing a mask I am we got a call I I took the approach of we could put on a safe event II that I get a state or a country that allows us to put on an event we're back on I'm going to put protocols in place because I believe fight me on it if I don't know what your thoughts are but I believe that you're more likely to get like we're sitting right now as opposed to being outside and I want people helping sweater the idea that the sunlight going to kill all of it it seems ridiculous like it's you and it's also going to get into people and they going to bring it to their home and it's going to get to them say they're going to go to work they going to give it to other people at work or other people wherever Gatherings that they get to when we get you haven't liked the way someone described it recently is like a music festival in every city all across the country for weeks at a time and that's what the protest for like I'm sure it had an impact and if you looked at the numbers like so many of the people that have it in our young people I think bars had a big impact on a to buy think a lot of you don't drunk talk and bars red on top of each other indoors you drinking your inhibitions are down you're not thinking you not washing your hands you're yelling you know you talkin loud sloppy sloppy so so we got a call from Florida to give a f*** Jacksonville I was definitely on the side of you said Joe what's your stance on the whole thing my stance was I think we should shut down prepare to time to get the hospitals in our in our medical system like in shape but I'm just not a believer that you could shut down economy for as long as we act like it has enough it has some negative consequences of people lose their we're shooting down there we could all the protocols in place I'm a little annoyed because it's not going to be the race I'm used to where everybody's like like you're getting together in the festival area and I can't have like mud pits where we're mingling people so I don't know how it's going to go I drive with my family's I got to be there if I'm on the leader of this organ I got to be there driving my family down the East Coast when I get to South Carolina there's no virus rockin everywhere else like it was game on so it's not shocking that the virus is huge down there if it was a country would be the fourth highest rate of infection in the entire world I got Italia and I'm not tell Sarah we put on a good safe event really good event and so far that knock on wood no issues but like there was no protection no protocol nothing down in the states down there so all of our employees we we tested with the swap your brain with it with a swab unlike your your rusty knife on my hand and in the event normally we have 8,000 at that event called a couple of thousand so I can't I can't make those numbers work but I thought it was important because there's 50,000 events around the world are shut down New York Marathon Boston put down the list and if we could provide like a path to have this could be done it was important to do but it's not a business right right right I got to keep paying people that I so how many events do you normally run a 325 45 countries 325 events and I'm down I'll be lucky I'll be lucky if we have 20 this year 2325 oh-305 down so how many events do you normally run a 325 45 countries 325 events and I'm down I'll be lucky I'll be lucky if we have 20 this year 2325 so 305 down down

the story moving out of here Monday leave soon somewhere in the center of the country somewhere it's easier to travel to both places and somewhere we have a little bit more freedom also I think that where we live right here in Los Angeles is overcrowded and I think most of the time that's not a problem but I think it's exposing the fact that the real issue when you look at number of pieces of people that are catching covid-19 of this overpopulation issue when you look at the traffic when you look at the economic despair when you look at the homelessness problem that's accelerated Rackley over the last six seven ten years I think there's too many people here I think it's not tenable I don't I don't think it's manageable and I think every mayor does a s*** job of doing it because I don't think anybody could do a great job of it I think there's a certain things you're going to have to deal with when you have a population of whatever the f*** La is like 20 million plus people it's too many people but I think I think you have a better opportunity at more Pros When there's less folks agree and it was so small town tax assessor just leave it at that but then my friends were in San Antonio and they got covid-19 there but those knuckleheads were out there talking to people and shaking hands take a pictures and stuff and taxes would be the Last Stand place to ever wear a mask or not shake a hand tell me about those knuckleheads were out there talking to people and shaking hands take a pictures and stuff and taxes would be the Last Stand place to ever wear a mask or not shake a hand

the Kettlebell you bring this f****** thing everywhere you go literally I do I lived overseas and I started it you know I started it I had a 696 pound guy come to the farm six years ago and he wanted help losing weight and I help them over 18 months get down to 265 lb as you lose weight I'll carry weight and events that was carrying a hundred pound sandbag fast forward and and we can get into it I moved overseas with my family and I tried to carry that hundred pound sandbags I had made that commitment to him and they wouldn't let it through TSA so when I landed and in Asia I asked my wife I said hey could you order a 20-count confused with kilograms and I ended up with a 44 pounder and it just became my stack my thing odds on this but I went and I'll tell you why we went raw fruits and vegetables only and here's a guy that was eating 888 Egg McMuffins a day for breakfast and two 2-liter Sprite how long does it take to get back to oh wow so this was this was over a long. Of time but he we did raw fruits and vegetables and then we did it we start a 10-mile hike every day raw fruits and vegetables we got to a point where he was losing 2 to 3 pounds a day Aika I cover the expenses which was like two stalks of celery and a glass hole I took his wallet and he had no plant-like closing a deal I was going to get out so I I got a phone call that somebody had just finished one of our sporting events that was extremely overweight and showed me the photo and I said get in touch with this guy right away this is our Jared this is our Subway stock with that so so normally that 5K Spartan would take let's say 90 minutes for the average person he took 7 hours so I tricked into it fought through it probably would have never come back but then I found out about him called him and said hey you're invited to the farm I want to help you do the document hi you find this guy he's 600 + pounds you whittling down to what you say to 6265 who's big fella already must be right yeah you got to see that I probably could find a photo of the pants that he wore coming in versus the pants he left with I mean you can fit three people in the pair of pants how did you organize his diet so so I didn't tell you when I was a kid on one hand was raviolis cannolis in guns on the other hand my mom been at the yoga meditation out food she was like both crunchy so why you working for the mob your mom was a yoga in the living room is very embarrassing so and the reason that happened was cuz her mom died of cancer and she walked into a health food store to kind of figure things out this is like in the 70s probably one health food store New York at the time that no yoga journal's No Whole Foods she walks in there happens to be an elderly Yogi that just landed in JFK from India in the health food store she strikes up a conversation with this Yogi changes her whole life by comes home throws away sausage Peppers eggplant parts are out of the house parents get divorced for obvious reasons going to go in a different direction and I am trying my best for the next 10 years to have my friends not come over because I'm embarrassed right there's like Indian pictures on the wall they're chanting there's mocks and I want to be a gangster and so yeah so anyway so she may be through just repetition wood would just instill this idea that you got to eat healthy oh my God this was like proper food combining this idea of intermittent fasting we were fat my mom my mom passed it for 30 days okay this is back in the 70s while meditating so so and so I had to balance these two things like like and so yeah I guess what I do now is a little tough guy a little yoga how do you know how to proceed there so if there's doctors listening they're probably going to say I'm crazy but and then I'll answer the question more succinctly mom introduced me to a guy named dr. Fred beshe you can look him up he's 92 now he decides 55 years ago that he's only going to eat raw fruits and vegetables that's it isn't Italian guy that was a weightlifter and he's going to he's going to test himself like a guinea pig doesn't work is this the best diet or not I'm just going to test it on myself he says and what do you is that feels better all the things that people agree or don't agree with so I wasn't necessarily knowing that and meeting. To be she and seeing my mom and I wasn't necessarily until like how many calories is it was just like if you eat good healthy food that's ultra-processed food you're not going to starve yourself what you need you could eat 40 salads I don't really care was my message to the guy but you're not going to right once you're tired of salad and you want the other thing then you want to go to have a cookie but you only eat salad you're never going to eat over eat salad so always eating his fruits and salads fruits fruits and veggies you kill it and I don't know what we are but he's probably down to 350 lb 400-pound he says to me I got to go to the doctor and I got to get my liver liver levels you're not a doctor and I'm really worried you got me on this ridiculous diet and I looked at them and I said you stupid m*********** I said you were eating a tag McMuffins every day and drink into 2 liter Sprite how many times did you get your liver levels check when you were doing that you worried about eating fruits and vegetables that that's f****** up your liver anyway I talked him out of it but we would have we would have battles like that losing that much body your body probably freaking the f*** out like we can't do this any think I'm staying this is like a 302 720° turn for him from from what he was the guy who'd he fasted for a whole year he did just vitamin drips and he was enormously obese and he just did vitamin drips and fast for a whole year but the crazy thing about it was he didn't get stretched out his body absorbed skin I mean maybe it's just his personal genetics and like some women that get pregnant have massive stretch marks other women a snap right back like a rubber at its does no Rhyme or Reason it seems to be genetic but this man who was really fat he lost all this way but he lost it everywhere like his skin came back normal sized you didn't have to have any of his skin removed I would I would bet if it wasn't genetic and unique to him I've done very long distance races where we had limited food and I've read about people that have been stuck at Sea let's say for 72 days and their teeth get extremely white and their skin get you know if not getting sunburned just beautiful I think I think I'm speculating I'm not a doctor your body eats any excess so that making that up I don't know if that out but I mean I've had friends that lost a ton of weight and they would have these big flaps of skin he had it and they want to get it removed and this guy didn't this guy his whole body shrunk with his sub Dom D'Agostino talk told us about this or with someone his fat and IV vitamin drips that's what it took for a whole year so you lived off of his fat is body had you know hundreds and hundreds of pounds of fat to lose he lost it all but that is skin shrank was fascinating to man like mad if we could convince people to try that again I don't know if any I'm a Believer again no scientific ancient times to myself we never had an abundance of food you and I couldn't walk into a grocery store and have access if we had food we had food and so I would think our stomachs and our digestive system needs time it's not used to just constantly taking food on demand wake up coffee Donut for that so I don't know about fasting for a whole year that's a different right but also you have to get to that crazy state abused your body the point where your hundreds and hundreds of pounds but that's it how long these walks take a knee doing 10-mile hike on the in the in the beginning as you can imagine those were really long hikes in probably two miles an hour so 5 hours to get that done but as he lost weight and he got more fit he hustling and on the farm on our Farm in Vermont it's hilly so I could either send the money or through the fields which we did in the beginning but eventually now he's climbing mountains to and and then I started adding weight of 10 lb sandbag bounce and back so we just kept upping the ante as his body adapted to what we were doing to him and he just kept taking off weight wow and so after 18 months to let him have a cake and then I'll head up the mountain you're going to sleep in the cuz I just went through all that time with the other guy and we're going to be much more efficient here first week or only eating apples and clean out your system and gave him a giant bushel of apples put on top of the mountain 30 days we had him down to 200 pounds and WeChat food you're not active you're gaining weight really good food you're very active you lose weight and and his girlfriend picks him up at 30 days make a f****** leave the farm unbeknownst to Maine to go straight to Ben & Jerry's 18 f****** pounds in a day 18 months ago just for a while the 18 months is a psychologically your building up some pretty spectacular endurance hours a day mean you putting some miles on your mind there I mean that's that's strengthening that that muscle of discipline no way that you probably never done in his whole life he got tough he finished a big event with us was that was like the big moment for him at the end and gotten gotten a single seat in Airplane when he left got a girlfriend likes stuff started to come together for him so he maintains he gained he was a 265 at our Bassin and my latest understanding isn't 350Z bounce back and better than 696 that's got to suck though like you get them down to like this really amazing weight you got to do I can't keep all these people know but still much anymore I'm a Believer I don't know if you are I'm a Believer the number one motivator for human beings is the avoidance of discomfort right because if we didn't avoid discomfort with fries in the snow we fall off a cliff we getting so we're always constantly even subconsciously avoiding discomfort and to be healthy like I was your high performer I'm a bit of a Maniac in that like I'm more uncomfortable if I'm not if I'm not optimal if I'm not being my best but most people that's not that's not the kind of make your mind into your mind has to seek discomfort it has to seek these difficult tasks you have to enjoy it and you have to figure out a way to make your mind enjoy those things and some people comes easy and some people what does tell me who takes a long time I always tell people the best thing you could ever do is force yourself to schedule shred it down today I have to do an hour on the treadmill at to do an hour no matter what even if you're f****** walking on it but will you do in an hour on the treadmill the next time you do any do it just did an hour and this is the amount of miles you got in next time you're going to you know add three miles put it put it in that one hour and just keep doing things like that right down at today I'm going to do a hundred push-ups and 100 sit-ups are chin-ups that's today and then force yourself force yourself to adhere to reschedule make a Monday Wednesday Friday workout schedule give yourself some time off you know I don't even don't even cross yourself to the point where you can't do it make it so that you really appreciate those Tuesdays and Thursdays but I'm Monday Wednesday and Friday you're going to f****** get after it and this is what you going to do most people just try to go work out and your kind of aimless and you show up and whatever you pick up the jump rope and a little rope maybe hit the heavy bag a little bit maybe do some we don't really have a name you know that's why people like to hire trainers to the trainer will tell you what to do well you can tell yourself what to do if you don't have money for a trainer you don't even have to f****** equipment you know what body weight squats sit-ups chin-ups push-ups you can kick your f****** ass you could give yourself a brutal full bodyweight workout and you can find these for free on YouTube there's a ton of them is a ton of these body weight workouts you could do just ShopRite it down Monday Wednesday and Friday hundred push-ups to do 10 + 10 + 10 + keep going all day Just Dance what you do 10 push-ups take a break for 20 minutes do another 10 but get those hundred in Monday Wednesday and Friday hundred push-ups I'm going to do a hundred a hundred sit-ups even if it takes me all f****** day you never have to do 10 + 10 + 10 + keep going all day Just Dance what you do 10 push-ups take a break for 20 minutes do another 10 but get those hundred in

thinking about pulling the trigger on what am I adding or taking away I love this kids thing I mean if you if you know that's why I asked you about stand-up comedy first the podcast or anything you do if you put a gun to my head or knife like it did earlier when you texted me I like the kids the kids are like wet clay in the sense that families that are saying Hey Joe they know me through somebody whatever my kids are a little they need some help I want to put them on the farm with you they're hard to fix the time at 2122 they're hard to fix these these little kids I make a big impact I mean the letters I got or tearjerkers after after the after the attacks I saw them writing the parents about how terrible I was and then seeing 14 days later like the impact I want more you know no I think you're dead right about that if you can give a kid like a transformational experience when they're when they're young something to really sticks with them the rest of our life right and the other thing I like about it is they can't really quit right you know if the parent gets involved and it's all f***** up but it's apparent stays out of it we're doing right now Vermont right now yeah and the Olympians at the mountain Warfare guy Eric Ashley and they're kicking these kids asses and and the older boys I found out last night when I got the California is hitting his dad up and saying you got to get me out of here you got to lie to Joe and tell him we have a family vacation give me the f*** out of here and the 15 and and the dad hit me up and I said listen next time he talks to you tell him we have an 11 year old girl by his side that is finishing this thing are you kidding me so you can't blame them because they've never tested themselves and never done hard things but I love it sit out in advance and decide what they're going to do like everyday and do Andy and Edie the Olympic wrestler when he 2008 Olympian didn't metal went to Russia and he spent a couple years in Russia to learn their system has gold medals in wrestling and they climb mountains in the climb ropes and they just f****** work hard and we took a bunch of the mountain Warfare and then we just had the Spartan sprinkles and the stuff my mom support and so you know they're waking up early there hiking the mountain there doing miserable s*** Karen rocks always purposeful so we're building we're building stuff out of rocks will be there for the test of time and so they have they can come back and see the efforts of their work and cold Waters always involved with the shower cold water sucks today it's healthy food probably keeping up a little bit hungry because you know a lion is most handsome when it's hungry we're not get through and we're doing two days on this particular much more wrestling focused so two days on and then one day to do a big hike so they did a giant hike today and then we had a fight club every day so there were some of them somewhere out there were girls in their never done it before and we created like a Brad Pitt Fight Club down the basement with Andy and it was awesome the kids f****** love that part of the camp every day they loved it so they beat each other up he said the rules it was like Hey I just want to get a high single leg this is what it it right there games like that they loved it on the mat they'd be screaming for an opponent it was it's almost instinctual or something it was unbelievable that long to was great games like that they loved it they pound the mat they be screaming for an opponent it was it's almost instinctual or something it was unbelievable to keep them from their phone for that long to ya-ya was great so so

freedom, freedom that's why we both live in this country but it's not a fair fight if if I'm not against I'm not a conspiracy guy but like I was on Wall Street and if your bird can get one of those big public companies that's making food that's not so healthy like you got scientist you got Madison Avenue advertisers you figured out a way to get into our psyche where you can't live without that thing right cigarettes they can't do that anymore they they stop that it's interesting because you can still advertise for a jack-in-the-box be can advertise for cigarettes but obesity kills as many people as almost any so that's what I'm saying would you cross the line I like will you annoyed that you can advertise two cigarettes that taken away Freedom good question it's a discussion the problem with those those ads a lot of them were at least initially very deceptive you know they made it look like Marlboro Man I want it I want it I want it I mean there's no way I'd swear you see the shity foods with obese people getting sick good that would make it creative very compelling ad showing fat people having heart attacks and literally like she if it were even or even a motivating want to do something healthy the best motivation is always positive underlying conditions which many many people do have it's not even their fault they just have for whatever reason they just history genetic history of heart disease 30 * he's very weird but it certainly is exacerbated and he'll tell you that by his diet yes that doesn't mean you're definitely going to die because your parents did of that right now could you could make some lifestyle Choice yes

kind of a third kind of secret there is a secret sauce in this whole mix and this is kind of what brought me to send my lab you know we do work with typical people but we also and do some work with people from David's former community and domestic and foreign Special Operations who were interested in this process for obvious reasons how can you leverage the nervous system to build better longer-lasting Warriors so really interesting question and you could do that with brain machine interface you could do that with a drug you're with supplementation nutrition all of that but since the nervous system sits at the foundation of any of those we tried to think about this problem and there's actually another element to it which is the reward Pathways involving dopamine so you asked about kids like why they can learn all day long so their brain is very different but it still needs some degree of focus and they still need to get their sleep they still have to obey those two rules of this process but they engaged which is really powerful which is play a lot of their learning is through playful exchange special with the little kids like in kindergarten nursery school and then as they get older the social dynamics can be kind of harsh but they can also be really pleasurable on fun so the molecule dopamine is a really misunderstood molecule we all make it from a location in back of her brain and people think of it is like reward feeling great but in addition dopamine is what's released any time an animal or human thinks it's on the right path and that's very subjective so this is not and I want to be really clear that this is not positive thinking or you know this secret or telling yourself you're performing well even when you're not be doing that mother nature built these systems adrenaline acetylcholine dopamine to be very generic in terms of what can activate it on purpose cocaine will cause a tremendous release of dopamine so will methamphetamine the problem is it set the focus on just getting more of that thing so dopamine is evoked through play it evoked through humor right if you ever just been working like mad or you see that sin you know teen guys know this really well tell me neither you can be in the war situation and somebody will crack a joke and all of a sudden it's like you have energy that I come to bring glycogen that wasn't cuz you're ketogenic it wasn't cuz you're whatever that's neural energy and that neural energy is dopamine is that what happens when you hear a great song and you get pumped up as our same thing solutely and the reason dopamine is so powerful in this process of neural plasticity is that dopamine has the ability to buffer so that stress that you feel when you're in effort is very hard for most people to keep that going but when you get a shot I mean internal release of dopamine through humor or through the sense that you're on the right path lipstick the fight example where it's stressful and you're getting beat down all the sudden you land one or you do something properly in the other guy starts to Timber a little bitter Shuffle little bit you gain chemical advantage and it comes in to form one is it triggers marking of the lapses that likely will change later we rarely forget the events associated with dopamine for that reason cuz they signal or whatever is happening now that was good and in addition to that they start pushing back on the level of acetylcholine excuse me noradrenaline in the brainstem and this is crucial because there was a study that came out 2 years ago not for my group that asked why do we quit you know I thought you said you know 800 or even five hundred pounds on the bar out there I can't lift it talking about a long run why do I quit if I'm not injured like what actually causes quitting when did when do we decide that something is futile and it turns out that for every bit of effort and even have ever lived in a glass of water or running up a hill or in a fight their little bits of his of noradrenaline adrenaline that are released in the brain and body and there's a counter there's a cell type with your code glia which literally means glue in Latin the cells are paying attention to how much norepinephrine is coming and if it hits a certain threshold. stops voluntary control over the muscular says that's it I quit I know these beautiful experiments where they manipulate the visual environment so that this isn't there certain that this isn't lack of muscle fuel this it or liver fuel this is lack of neural fuel dopamine pushes back that level of noradrenaline and it gives you more gas it lets you go further and you see this through teamwork when you feel like you're supported when you're cohesion play if you know if you're in serious effort and it's just things are going terribly maybe I've never done call me when you're trying to write a joke and 6th rushing and then suddenly you just kind of laugh at how ridiculous the processes there's a kind of loosening or a lightning and you have more energy that energy is reductions in epinephrine play if you know if you're in serious effort and it's just things are going terribly maybe I've never done call me when you're trying to write a joke and just rushing and then suddenly you just kind of laugh at how ridiculous the processes there's a kind of loosening or a lightning and you have more energy that energy is reductions in epinephrine

to bring it back to work one of the things that you talked about was eyesight and regaining eyesight or dealing with people that have weakening eyesight my eyesight's going to s*** man you have a tradition old 52 and just visit the macular degeneration like my phone I can read all these text messages that are coming in 14 new ones since I put my phone down but what I do know for sure is and my vision is not as good as 10 years ago I'm certainly not as good as it was 20 years ago what can be done okay so there's what can be done now and where we're headed but I suspect you want to know what can be done now have a clinical trial in my lap right now. My affiliation with opthamology where people put on VR goggles very separate from the fear-inducing thing it's actually a very pleasant experience and we use a particular pattern of stimulation that activates the cells in the eye that are most vulnerable and create vision loss it stimulates those in a way that reinforces their connections with the brain that's the logic so every cell in your eye has a different function but some of them their job is to transmit visual information to the rest of the brain are called ganglion so we know what patterns of activity make them healthy and what reinforced regeneration back in 2016 my lab published a paper showing that that particular pattern of stimulation come by with a particular pattern of gene therapy so this is one injection into the eye of a gene that triggers growth of the cells in mice that allowed regeneration of neurons that were damaged and it actually reversed slightly but it reverse blindness completely blind mice were able to see again so that we then took that built a human clinical trial using just the VR part however some people in this trial or receiving injections it's about once every month very painless injection into what we call the pictures to the I inject something called cntf ciliary in the trophic factor and the combination of this growth factor plus the visual stimulation we believe is going to protect cells that would normally be lost from getting lost so offset lost and potentially restore Vision now the results of the trial are done but we are recruiting people for this truck you've been through way worse this morning on your way to work trust me so it's it's nothing the other thing is that there was a paper published just recently a couple weeks ago not from my lab but from a group of Mercy College London looking at the effects of red light on mitochondria in a different cell type which of the photoreceptors of the eye so you got the cells that connects the photoreceptors we take all this Photon information turn into this incredible thing we call Vision which itself is a whole galaxy of information but is amazing and those cells to generate overtime the photoreceptors they don't do very well in part because as we age the mitochondria function gets disrupted this study luminary wasn't very many subjects I think it was only 20 subjects maybe it was 12 but getting red light therapy to the viewing a very bright flashes a red light of a particular wavelength I want people going out there blasting Rod improved Vision on vision test almost immediately and that's a very non-invasive approach and I be happy red light therapy in the other kind of red light therapy cuz I really like that Juve thing I'm not exactly sure what it does it supposed to like regenerate collagen and do a bunch of different that helps you but it feels good yeah it feels good and you know one of the things is remember her saying that the eyes are actually a piece of brain your brain needs to know when to be awake and want to be asleep one of the best ways to wake up your brain is to view bright light and you know they're all these people they're fanatic about blue light out there viewing bright light in the morning from sunlight is the best thing like in Southern California go outside to 10 minutes again bright light and then you want to avoid light from like 11 p.m. to 4 a.m. actually it's been shown to suppress melatonin it can disrupt sleep a lot of problems you don't really want to be looking at any bright light in middle of the night lot of people get obsessed with blue light being bad you want bright light during the day and you don't want any bright light at night really too much of it and people come out for me though like the blue blockers not called like a Blue Block on East has been coming after me recently because I we're saying life is like what about the inside look the blue blockers will help filter some light it'll make things less bright it's hard to see with sunglasses in your house so be my guest and wear them but really what you want to do is dim the lights in the evening deeper sleep melatonin suppression is it won't be a problem. That's all good get bright light first thing in the morning when you wake up and then the bright red light is probably having a dual effect it's probably increasing mitochondria in the photoreceptors if this study is right I do believe this. He hasn't it looks really good to me and the person who in the game a long time so I trust him and in addition that's going to wake up your system and get the balance of these hormones like you want cortisol high in the morning and and melatonin coming up about 16 hours later before sleep it's going to put all that into the right Rhythm so I say go ahead and do the the red light thing but if you want to pursue the red light flashes with a VR and maybe even the cntf injection that we should talk about that but the good news is the good news is that the VR would you have a condition in the study words just VR so it's a daily if you're essentially your neurons like to be active and these cells that connect the eye to brain the most above all others the most active neurons and cells in your entire do you know of anybody who's done this the results of a clinical trial but I can't see their promising and this is inhuman if you qualify for the study I definitely think you should do it but I can't reveal that the results of the study cuz I actually don't know yet in the name of cosines I'm blinded to the conditions no pain bright like I just don't know but we have we have subjects are patients that are as young as 17 as old as a t and the beauty of this is that if you decide not to get the injection is completely non-invasive and play once a month for a period of about six months so what I have to go to the Bay Area once a month no so there so there is another version of this where there's a slow-release polymer Capsule that's that's placed into the I I just kind of pissed it but getting things into your remember its brain and so there's a reason why you have this Tufts Calera okay to the brain and visual repair is soon going to go the way of two other strategies and I think we're going to see this in humans in the next couple years meaning two years cuz I hate that 10 years thing we were here in the 10 years thing forever when is the work of someone you had on here before David Sinclair great is terrific I both for sake of his work on combating aging and also just really have to tip my hat to him because he was really first man in terms of doing public-facing Science Education through podcast and things like that and you know I'm trying to do that and others are starting to do it and he deserves credit for that is it put scientist in a vulnerable place and I think he's doing it with a lot of integrity so David's not typically known for doing Vision research but he paired up with another guy slab again he was young he at Harvard Children's Hospital someone I know very well we work together a number of things and they took advantage of what it's called these yamanaka factors yamanaka won the Nobel Prize for finding these four factors that could essentially allows a cell to turn into anything any other cell type create steminist in in the South Macon pluripotent stem cells the problem was David lab has combined an anti-cancer Gene I think these workers still not published but he's talked about them so I feel comfortable doing this suppresses cancer while turning me sells young again and at least in mice they see some very encouraging results of that would be a sort of one injection kind of thing where you going once you get the injection and then never again if I did an injection once a month how long do it for so that he would probably run for about 6 months or the embedded capsule the cntf capsule combine with the VR VR goggles on for 20 minutes a day and watched it that's easy listening music do whatever you want is a very passive thing that triggers activity these cells activity is key because we know that neurons you know you hear fire together wire together and all this other stuff but the fact that there's a neurons that are quieted even if you cast an arm the neurons that support moving to that arm very quickly start to turn off and eventually they can die so you keeping neurons active and alive and healthy involves keeping them literally actively lattice WR components, so there's the Sinclair kind of turning back the clock stuff and then colleagues of mine at Stanford are doing incredible work with no prostate prosthesis a little robotic retinas as well as stem cells that are injected to the eye that settle down into your eye and give you the cells that you've lost and we're not quite there with the human trials yet but there's a group the retina repair initiative I'm part of this thing it has like kind of funny name was called the dream team which is a bunch of people brought together cure blindness to solve blindness in a particular disease called neurofibromatosis so there are dozens of labs working extremely hard on this problem this is one place where I can say there's been tremendous progress in the last five years there are clinical trials now France's the one of my lap and in two or three years you're going to start seeing people who would normally go blind you're going to Halt that and you're going to see people who are completely blind I think eventually those people will see again yeah I have a it's amazing and you do blind people that mental the mental real estate but like the visual real estate in the brain gets taken over by other functions there's this guy Dan mancina he's a skateboarder is completely blind amazing God and with a cane always on to him kickflips out this kind of stuff and I talked to him a bunch of times because he was having some issues with his sleep because of one of the issues that blind people because light is controlling when to be alert when via sleep is having some issues with us so he contacted me we're also in touch because we're trying to keep trying to build skate parks for blind kids so that they can he knows where they are but how did you know the scale of the ramp or the picture of the ramp he has an internal representation of it hog you better off right cuz the dog you Outsource your vision to the dog there now glasses that blind people can wear and walk down the street and it communicates with somebody in a like a dispatcher who says oh you know what they're somewhat sketchy over there to your right you don't want to cross the street and it works really well it's very expensive and of course your privacy is an issue yeah but that's a whole different business and I do believe that you're the hope is that people like Dan will then she see again but that's going to require new cells and actually for him he's going to need new eyes sedan actually has had because he had this coats disease that led to a nice Pigmentosa he had his eyes removed so whenever people say I don't believe he's blind it's like guys even MRIs anyway but if you would like to explore visual repair and restoration Austin and vision loss more happy to further

if your child you the things you hear in seeing you are shaping you my kids come home saying things I've never even heard before it's amazing and as an adult you have to crack into that neural circuitry and reshape it and why is that what it what is it about adult because I have my own Theory and this is just a martial arts based Theory young kids learn so fast they learn so fast but I always feel like it's cuz they don't have jobs they don't have a family to take care of they don't have a girlfriend who's on there they don't have bills and the IRS breathing down their necks so they can just think about it and their mind like if if they have a hard drive right in there they have a 1 terabyte hard drive they got like a hundred gigs. All this space You could fill that space up a technique and movement and and it becomes their whole life cuz it's thrilling and it's exciting to learn and their body heals quicker so they can they can force themselves in the situation with adults extremely difficult to find the bandwidth to find the amount of time to really completely focused on something because you have too many distractions was that makes sense that absolutely what you just described as it is a beautiful description of the top contour and below that what's happening is in in childhood the whole brain is literally more plastic because there's more space for the neurons to move around and making connections the whole environment the chemicals that are swirling around in there are set for plasticity we were basic design to come into the world and be customized to our experience I mean if the human-animal is exceptionally good at any one thing it's that so if you're an adult so if you're a 35 year-old man with a family or 35 year old woman with a family and a job and you want to learn a new skill what is the best way to force your brain to accept these new patterns and learn this quickly by attacking two separate parts of a pro neuroplasticity is not an event it's a process and has two parts the first one is if you want to learn and change your brain as an adult there has to be a high level of focus and engagement there's absolutely no way around this because it's so focus and intensity in that kind of the Goggins phenotype right I think dog is an hour now or never been a pronoun right it's like it's amazing we need to do is you need to regardless of how agitated you feel you have to lean in and spoke is extremely now the reason for that is that there's a neurochemical norepinephrine also called adrenaline the same thing that's released in the brain and body most people back off at that point because they feel this agitation but we have to remember that that noradrenaline with designed to get us into movement that's the purpose of noradrenaline to take us out of Stillness and into movement and then the other thing we have to do is we have to take that elevated level of alertness and we have to focus it and there's a second neuromodulator called acetylcholine which is secreted from this little structure in the base of the forebrain when we usually focus on something or in the case of maybe if you're doing auditory learning when you focus with your auditory attention from like you can get it from cryo-chambers you can get it from cryotherapy so using those strategies of taking like acetylcholine is actually an Alpha Brain supplements my company's house when you take that along with float tanks and doing or excuse me cryo-chambers and do some intense exercise or whatever you trying to get good at with intense focus on those things accelerate that process almost certainly increases the plasticity the rate of plasticity would actually accelerate the process of learning yes so so the reason for that though you don't necessarily need a crowd chamber what you need are so we have these requirements we need urgency and focus trigger plasticity that's one part of the process I haven't mentioned a second part yet neuroplasticity a triggered when urgency and focus combined acetylcholine is released for the $15 out there it's called the nucleus of a cell if it doesn't matter is a little compartment of neurons in the brain that doesn't like to release acetylcholine on a regular basis Rita gets greedy and it doesn't want to use that with your child it'll drain your brain with accedo calling but that's an adult 3048 because you know Mother Nature designed us to learn what we need to learn and then do that reproduce and die I mean not to be you know about it but you know what kind of Drew me into a biology is that all these complex things you see in the world it's all internal so you know if you get urgency it can come from let's use David is it he's a shining example this right you can sit there and just ramped up your level of urgency through purely psychological means you could take an ice bath you could do high-intensity breathing anything that brings your level of alertness up will need to get better at something when would you use that ice bath or the cryotherapy would you use it before would use it afterwards definitely before 4 before the Lord is a two-part process the first part of the learning trigger the learning trigger is gated by two things adrenaline which is also norepinephrine same thing and acetylcholine and so you need that level of alertness up and you need acetylcholine released at the location in the brain that corresponds to what you're trying to learn choline released at the location in the brain that corresponds to what you're trying to learn so things like supplements and certain nutrition regimen can assist the process for sure there's no question about that things like PPC caffeine will bring up the adrenaline and kind of anything to raise that alertness

Siri because that map is so regular cross cultures he's looked now in China in Chinese speaking people and English-speaking people and people have a second language is even had some interesting get about people who have APA speak the really annoying and you trust me cuz I'm going to Regional but it might reflect the subtle brain damage I think the data show that it's a distortion of the of the regular map I think it's the same thing as a Southern accent I think you just fitting in with your environment cuz I know people that have adopted that s*** once they've gotten into the tech world and like a f*** face you didn't used to talk like that or the people that go to get to England and start speaking with a bow by Madonna I'm going to try out y'all but some of the stuff is learned are you moving California we are not a completely clean slate there's a kind of a map that expects the world including language should be a certain way and we can't expect that we're going to be born in China are born in France are born in California or Northern California for that matter so the map is what we call Semi malleable it's not a rigid concrete hardwired map so what makes you think this up speak is like damaged so I asked Eddie about this what's with the upspeak thing he said yeah you know we see that sometimes and I'm concerned about that and when a neurosurgeon tells you they're concerned okay what do you think there's something wrong with the map but if you are forced to learn another language and I think it's interesting to raise this kind of cultural component because actually it was Eddie's advisor guy named Mike Merson it was really the one who discovered adult neural plasticity in the seventies and eighties and might actually scientific great-grandparents David hubel and Torsten Wiesel won the Nobel Prize for showing their critical. These periods of development after which the brain cannot change and they had important implications for amblyopia and eye stuff murders and it came along said you know I don't buy that and he started doing experiments with his students and postdocs where they would create an is an essential need or contingency like if the animal that doesn't eat unless it learned something then the brain can change if you break down learning events into his kind of smaller more focused event the brain can change as an adult that essentially Neah and so the strongest drive for adult neural plasticity is focus ability to say this is really important it's making a soda straw view of the world is almost like being in a state of stress and the best way to do that for a young person and adolescents or maybe even the older is the social pressures if they're strong they will shape and rewire the brain I mean I look at what's happening in the world right now and I think we are in a state of immense neural plasticity everybody is having to rewire their understanding what's going on so just a sort of put up the kind of a bowl of some sort on the the speech and language think I don't think brain machine interface is going to be all about sticking chips in the hell upspeak and it was like as clear as day to me like they were letting each other know that they're in the tribe and you know I remember Jamie had a tech problem once and he was on the phone with this lady who is doing up speak when she's talking them and we both looked at each other like it does kind of create at least mostly influenced by the people around us that is not just that it's like you changed how you talk to fit in with this there's a tech world there's Tech language that's text speak it's English but it's text speak English it's letting you know and they're destined to be a body halfway joking here if you look up speakers and a man I've always loved your show but then you said you don't trust people talk like joking but also stop doing that stop f****** doing that I know what you're doing I think I think Eddie would say that there's some Distortion in the way they're using this map but how did it start I think it started with one really smart person would probably a little autistic who talk like that because they were trying to keep it together and everyone else like I want to be a smart-ass John and then they start talking like that and then it became a thing sort of like accents like in Boston right they talk in a weird way and I picked it up and then one time I heard myself on television I hurt myself talk like that when I was 19 I was like oh my God I sound like a f****** idiot what is wrong with me cuz I only live there at that time for like six years but I adopted at Whole Hog and I was like what it what's wrong with me like I wanted to fit in hog and I was like what it what's wrong with me like I wanted to fit in that's what it was moved there when I was 13 and I tried to fit in and so I had adopted the speech pattern I didn't realize it until I heard it like you knew you listen to a tape of yourself you actually find out what you really sound like you like you

getting as well nicotine have some sort of a nootropic prop benefit to it to smoke but you know you can take various forms particular gum I know people taking him gum just for the nootropic benefit of it yeah I'm not encouraging people to take anything but there's a very very famous Nobel prize-winning neuroscientist who I went to his office to visit him in New York and he chewed seven pieces of Nicorette during that half-hour meeting and I was like what is going on here and he said well first of all Teresa's plasticity and second of all he has the belief in this is not a clinical study but he thinks that it can also hold off certain forms of Parkinson's and Alzheimer's famous smoker like it wouldn't even though I don't know I think I think he wouldn't even go on a plane unless otherwise a smoking section cuz he couldn't imagine not having his pipe for a certain amount of time will creative so you know when I think when smoking became because it's very clear that so Nicorette is Nick and the acetylcholine binds to the nicotinic receptor it so it when you take nicotine in cigarette former and Nicorette form you're actually increasing the release of receipt of the action of acetylcholine in the brain yeah I don't smoke cigarettes but I have and the only time I have is before shows cuz I have friends that are comedians that would smoke give me one of them things what's going on and I smoked I was like why would do to get high off these things this is crazy particularly if you don't smoke cigarettes you get this weird high when your receptors have never seen that level of nicotine before and they like that you're calling is like a spotlight it brings your vision literally into this more kind of portrait mode where you can see more like a narrow window of what's going on there behavioral ways to access this to before a fight you know somebody's really ramped up their world is not they're not seeing everything they're probably I've never done the Walk of course we're probably walking out to the octagon seeing Albert the color the Hat of the woman in the corner you know they're not relax their hyped up but that's a trigger for plasticity because the brain needs some way to Q This plasticity prostitute let itself know cuz it's a self-learning Oregon let itself know that something's really different that's adrenaline something's changed then there's Focus what's changed so in the Jiu-Jitsu example you gave earlier it's the ability to focus on what the sequences what happens when and okay I did that correctly right into that correctly but that's the racial passing out come again and having acetylcholine and noradrenaline up that set the plasticity trigger however that doesn't guarantee that does not mean that you're necessarily going to learn what guarantees that that process will be converted into literally the change in the connections between neurons sometimes new neuron for most of the change facts about it is states of deep sleep and any state where you're not doing duration pass out come so we know from to recent studies some of this was done by my lab up by other lives as well in humans which I think is important to distinguish between Mouse and human where we can a lot of the changes in these brain structures occurs after learning during deep sleep in particular slow-wave sleep but it also occurs during periods of cops and shallow sleep or even just trees were people deliberately decompressed where they're not focusing on any one thing in particular so if we were going to kind of operation like this process it would be focused intensely have an intense. Urgency and then access the deepest rest you can wear you're not thinking about anything where space and time becomes very fluid so stressed post-exercise or learning session would actually hinder your ability to grow and get better absolutely and Ali performers like Elite military Elite athletes I'm sure you're familiar with this they understand that the ability to toggle back and forth between these high-alert high tensional States and depressed is not just the key to performing what you can already what you can already do it's also the ability to get better over time like Elite military Elite athletes I'm sure you're familiar with this they understand that the ability to toggle back and forth between these high-alert high attentional States and depressed is not just the key to performing what you can already what you can already do it's also the ability to get better over time

Maybe not maybe not hypnosis is powerful and I think stage hypnosis has done a great disservice no disrespect to the stage hypnotist out there to detract from the power of hypnosis is a medical tool and a high-performance tool in the Boston comedy hypnotist the actual that the test would hypnotize people get him to quit smoking things along those lines but then would do this comedy hypnotism show where he would get people on stage and man like we would want me in a bunch of other comedians would go and watch it every week cuz it was crazy he would put them under they would definitely be under and they would think they were having sex they think they would be in a boat they think they'd be in the water that it was weird it was really weird to watch and I always just thought it was like really weak-minded people my thought was an absolute 21 at the time I didn't know anyting but my thought of the time was okay there certain people they're just Deb 9-volt brains and you can trick them to do anything and that explains Cults and a lot of other s*** and televangelist and all sorts of nonsense it should be like really obviously fake to people but they fall into it anyway and so that's what I thought I thought it was really dumb people that he was tricking will some people are more easily hypnotized than others and it's it's actually pretty predictable dyslexia test that we could do right now that can do it to me so I can use the one that that Spiegel taught me which is so you look up at the ceiling and your look and now trying and I'll close your eyelids you're not very hypnotizable lookup susceptible to hypnosis I asked how you measure this kind of back-of-the-envelope you know curbside consult as they call it and people who are more hypnotizable their eyelids will flutter in an attempt to go down the reason is that a lot of hypnosis is anchored on the ability to go into these deep really relaxed States and some people's autonomic nervous system gets locked in a state more of a more attention and kind of higher levels of alertness or levels of sleepiness so think about like a see-saw so you can either be really stressed when you're really stressed like you're analyzing time you're analyzing space differently great outcome what's going to happen when's it going to happen real emergency the other state would be sleep right that's the Other Extreme duration path an outcome are essentially nonexistent space and time are fluid whatever engine seesaw for some people is very tight they get locked over here or locked over there they can't get the energy or they can't distress hypnosis involves taking somebody from a state of alertness like you are and I are in now and bringing them into a almost sleep like State now for some people their autonomic nervous system isn't that willing to do that it's almost like the hinge on that seesaw is locked it doesn't want to budge and this fluttering of the eyelids is reflective of a peripheral nerve you're not that's that originates in the brainstem that's a central part of the autonomic nervous system the other thing that they'll do you ever see on the stage hypnosis where they'll have people look up at the ceiling and then they'll condemn shine a light in their eyes were they like have them luminolite they're looking at how how we call it labile but how rigid or labile how willing to move the pupils are because autonomic arousal impacts the pupils of the eyes so it's an external reader what's going on rain lot of people don't know this but your eyes are not connected to your brain your eyes are brain that they are central nervous system and their bring your neural retinas that you use for seeing things around you or part of the central nervous system they are the way that you know when to be alert and to be asleep and they are two pieces of brain that during development got squeezed out of the skull and placed outside the skull that is f****** crazy your thighs or a part of your brain and that's why when people tell me we know the eyes are the window to the soul of my mother I don't know about souls but they are definitely your brain so when I look at you and now it's weird cuz I'm looking at you know where is a direct read out of that of how loose that hinges so when they shine light in someone's eyes only take it away in the that's so weird that you can look in someone's eyes and there's something about what you can kind of tell what kind of a person they are in some ways are at least tell how they're thinking like if someone's uncomfortable being around you like you could see it in their eyes if you tried to write that down like what are you saying you try to explain to someone Good Luck Good Luck riding that down I don't know what that is like. But I know when someone's full of s*** right like if someone's lying to me or bullshiting me I'm not always aware but I'm aware a lot well and it's not just their individual eyes but it's also the way that they focus their eyes so you know the myth of a cyclops right one eye in the middle of head that myth has origins in the fact that the Cyclops was one-dimensional anger and it turns out that when we are experienced an increase in autonomic arousal so let's say we decide we're going to fight we decide we're going to learn or maybe we're going to write something important something's important our eyes the pupils change shape but because our eyes don't really move in our skull they actually do what's called Pho Viet in a little bit then there's an eye musculature reflex that gets triggered in and so you can see that sometimes in people that are getting ready to fight their eyes are actually brought in word that triggers another neural circuit to increase levels of autonomic arousal and start deploying resources internally fuel resources fuel for in about of intense stop whatever that intense thing is going to be when we're relaxed like we view a horizon or what walking or working with call optic flow when things are flowing past us we going to panoramic Vision some panoramic Vision you'd go out of that soda straw view of the world and you start being able to see the corners of the room the sealing the floor and what and that's a relaxed state so sometimes were even subconsciously perceiving how stress to relax somebody is not by necessary their pupils although that might play into it that's really has a role but whether or not based on your prior kind of intuitive knowledge about that person whether or not they're like cycle or whether or not they're in panoramic Vision tomorrow and this is important because it changes the way we perceive time if we are in Cyclops Vision soda straw view that high-intensity we tend to do two things one as we tend to be more in tune with what's going on inside us we start the brain does this other thing which called interoception is like paying attention to what's going on inside US forces outside us and when were stressed time outside of seems to go really slowly it's like your in the security line at the airport and you need to get your flight two very different perception of the person in front of you and what they're doing then when your relaxing time and that's because outside events start to feel slower this is why after a car crash people will say you know that everything was in slow motion or I've never actually looked at Fighters but I visited the UFC training center Duncan French went out there and talk to him about this work related to this, although not directly has important implications for that switches when you're in these high-adrenaline states you parse time differently and when I hear about Fighters you know sick like being able to time the fight or they it's almost like they can see things coming in slow motion that's because their internal level of arousal is really really hot but it feels like relaxation so there's like sleepy not feeling so good Everything feels like it's going on really fast I can't deal with life then you ramp up your level of intensity and everything outside you feel like it's going a little slower or maybe a match to that like I'm a pretty high intensity. When I'm in New York I feel greatly before the people walking down street finally feel like the tempo is kind of match between internal and external those high functioning people enjoy Manhattan yeah I come from neurotic lineage I'm constantly trying to get to the other part of the Seesaw but but I get it you know I get out of the subway in New York and I'm like the walking speed that the speed of everything itches I finally feel like internal to external match does this thing that the connects the fluttering of the eyelids to being able to be hypnotized more easily does that coincide with a personality variable that's wrong I tapped out and there's a whole set of personality traits and coping traits that relate to hypnotizability there's a small subset of people that just cannot be hypnotized you can't you can't really Force he works with Fighters he's he hypnotizes mental coaching but he and I was like I want to know what you're doing we'll see what's up was very weird very find it beneficial I think I did I only did it once but I was I was kind of stunned by a weird state where you're kind of there but not there like it's not like you don't know what's going on you do know what's going on but you're in this weird sort of Quasi relax sleepy thing it's a very unusual State this match of high focus deep relaxation is not a brain state we can access very easily without a hypnotist or other ways to do it but that would be super beneficial for preet for people wanting to learn something because it would relax them much more deeply than it would just or ordinarily everyday life while you're conscious that's right it's it's taking the two pieces of the plasticity puzzle and putting them in the same event so I don't think it should be the only way to learn new things are there things you can't do in hypnosis like World Jiu-Jitsu I mean but as a tool for accessing faster learning it's quite powerful just like sleep I mean I think the work of Matt Walker and build a mint at Stanford and others had just shown like if you want to pull someone apart you want to just make them insane and unable to do these duration. Outcome you know mental operations you sleep the problem faster learning it's quite powerful just like sleep I mean I think the work of Matt Walker and Bill DeMint at Stanford and others had just shown like if you want to pull someone apart you want to just make them insane and unable to do these duration. Outcome you know mental operations you sleep the problem

the Deep philosophy point and this it this is actually really the biggest problem right now in the racism point is the shifting definition of racism so I had the unfortunate experience actually reading when the best time to go to the country Robin diangelo white fragility and let me just tell you a greater portion has never been produced by a bevy of horses it is an awful book and it is basically the same Theory wait I find racism is probably tell you to find racism you believe in the inferiority or superiority of a group based on race of an individual based on their membership in that group to write in a racial inequality is itself racist to any structure that results in a not exact proportion between whites and blacks the NBA Racers exactly exactly the kind of yet except that being gay is not racist because obviously benefits black people right now except these just reinforced high-end with disparity outcomes and see what they say is in order to be anti-racist you have to want to tear down the entire system they literally said that I'm not I'm not really I know that I'm not misidentifying you already mad because the basic notion that you be anti-racist have to tear down free market-oriented turn down free speech or you have to and what that means is that of course that anytime is rioting and looting nikole hannah-jones lady that she appreciated the people were calling me to the 1619 riots because once you say America is rooted in slavery and rude and evil and the terrible horrible no good very bad place then robbing a shop is just the latest iteration of you fighting the system explain the 1619 correlation Declaration of Independence was actually founded in 6019 with the importation of African slaves to American Shores so the idea is that the entire history of America is a history of a system that is endemic Lee white supremacist and that all of the Declaration of Independence is basically a lie that the principles of all men are created equal that was why when it was written and it's a lie now that the idea that we have rights the previous government that's a lie it was built in order to enshrine white supremacy and no Evolution has taken place essentially make the argument that from 1619 to 2020 is a Continuum racism has gone underground a little bit but it's still there and still it's still implicit in all of our systems to 6019 project has literally everything on racism to disparities in maternal mortality racial disparity is attributable to the system that was rooted in slavery the traditional notion of America 1776 and that the story of America is that America did tolerate the great original sin of slavery up until the Civil War than tolerated Jim Crow up until the civil rights movement of the 1960s and that's a great stained a blot America the story of America is trying to fulfill the promises of the Declaration of Independence overtime make those promises available to everybody and this isn't my argument is Martin Luther King when he talks on the end of March in Washington about fulfilling the promissory note of the Declaration of Independence as a check and then you didn't let black American be American where to cash the check Douglas 1852 is the Declaration of Independence those principles that we should all basically agree on because of the principle of free all the things you see in the Constitution that those things brought about greater freedom and prosperity than anything else and help us overcome that sins that are present in all human societies are present in the United States in Extreme Ways as well but that's it that's the counter near the right to 6019 project says that all that was basically nonsense and white keeping blacks down and then no progress is Central even made it there is progress it mostly Ally and so every two sturdy now can be attributed to Historic despair between white and black is there Middle Ground so if we look at 1776 and we look at the Declaration of Independence and we look at America today in 2020 there clearly is some impact and The Echoes of slavery and then after that Jim Crow this clearly some impact in these deeply impoverished communities that don't seem to advance stomach racism or institutional racism I usually ask him to be a little more specific and what they mean. That one is history has impact of course that's right the trooper everybody is doing your family history to give a grandfather who went to went to prison on a particular charge that leads to Poverty for your parents with more property for your people have history as well history has consequences is not the same thing as saying the rules today are racist because the roads today are not racist actually the world today are quite not racist so historically it's fairly recent if you go from the Civil Rights Movement to 20/20 we're really not talking about that much time until three generations 50-plus years Jim Crow laws so that's where I'm saying there's a middle-aged and recognize the importance of history in people's living situations now and it's important for people on the other side of the aisle to at the same time every single thing to history because the truth lies somewhere in the middle add Center of that is people watching wanted to what I mean by that is the problems that have plates communities in the United States not yet the black community in the United States a province of racism or sexism the way those get alleviated his people making better choices overtime that is the problem that that's the way that those issues get to leave yet when Jews arrive in the United States in the in the early 20th century people when they when they came they were impoverished didn't speak the language the way to fight against that is to make good decisions and so the you fight against the system to make sure that the system has rules that apply equally to everyone has a big difference between people coming over here willingly and doing so in order to better their lives versus someone whose ancestors were dragged over here to be sold as property what and then dealing with the repercussions of that being your family history and red line laws all the other things that were put in place to sort of keep them in very specific areas which to this day remain crime-ridden gang-ridden deeply impoverished communities to pick up a gun and shoot somebody is based on him growing up in this f*****-up environment where that's what he models were everything around him is crime and gang and you imitate your atmosphere which would all humans do it right the dancer is there's only one way to break that chain what was that way is to not pick up a gun and shoot somebody simplistic way of looking at it if you're on the outside of that community and you're not one of those 18 year old kids that grows up with the incredible influence of all the people around him and that's all you see that's all you know but the problem is the only way that's going to be the thing that your kid doesn't know is for you not to do it at some point personal agency has to come in education and in teaching them about personal agency in in letting them understand that there's a way out of this and that the path they see being replicated over and over again by these people that wind up dying young the wind up going to jail that there are other options there's a lot of kids that never get that other information or if they get it to get little blips of it but the vast majority of the information the vast majority of the influence they get is terrible a kid is your born behind the 8-ball in no matter what you do you're not going to cease can take a look at what you should be saying is your grandfather was born behind the eight-ball and look how hard he had to work in order to get ahead and look at all the operatives true though but if your grandfather wasn't ahead didn't get ahead your grandfather was in and out of jail if your father was in and out of jail everyone around you is like that if there's literally no influence its positive in your life the idea of saying kid like that hey don't pick up a gun and shoot somebody it's way that's way too simplistic a version of their future in my in my large-scale intervention in these communities to do something about what what what is already been set in Motion in the momentum that keeps continuing decade after decade that doesn't have what could be that's the problem is that I think that a lot of the solutions that have been proposed have already been tried meaning that example LBJ thought that the way to alleviate a lot of these inequalities with the war on poverty and he talked about this he talked about what you said we're trying to guarantee equality of outcome and you can't hold the Rays or somebody starting 20 yards behind and then fired the gun until kittens can equal race into the idea was we're going to fight this war on poverty and alleviate poverty largely through transfer payments and and through the government taking a forcible step in favor of alleviating people's lives and we have about the same number of black Americans living under the poverty line is we're living under the poverty line by the way 70s the real issues that that are interred that are creating intergenerational poverty everyone knows that remains true the number one predictor of intergenerational poverty in the United States remain single motherhood the black community was 20% in 1960 to 70% today that's not unique to the black man in the white Community as well but 5% of white kids were born out of wedlock in 1960 today is upward of 40% that is not something has happened and it is not a matter of increase racism racism cultural change that does not Place Primitives is for black or white or for anybody on personal responsibility and personal say there needs to be a mindset training we do this by the way and all other areas of American life except for the most important decisions in the area of sports Nobody Does this routine and there is a point Shelby Steele makes in the area of sport if a kid is not does not have a good jump shot you base what you're trying to do on the parameters of the rules and the people that you're competing against that's how you look at it so you whatever culture from you you walk into this new thing with his very rigid set of rules preconditions for Success either meet them are you done with everybody but don't you think that a lot of that is predicated on the environment that you develop in and the people that you were around and the the lives that you imitate in the information that you have around you someone has to do something to influence those kids in a different way I was very fortunate when I was young but I discovered martial arts and it kept me from being what I could have potentially been up a bad kid gave me something to focus on theirs and I didn't grow up in a bad environment but it wasn't the best there's a lot of people out there that grow up in horrific environments and they never have that thing they never have something date they don't have a father around or they don't have a mother around or whatever whatever bad influences they have or overwhelming and they they don't it's it's very difficult for someone to just are quotes get their s*** together it's very difficult to this day there's so many books about losing weight don't you think everybody wants to lose weight that's fat they do they everybody who's fat wants to be sent they do but it's f****** hard for sure and that's nothing that comparison to changing your whole life but you would say about somebody losing weight you know how bad your family has had it with regard to losing weight like at a certain point if you want to lose the weight you got to figure out a way to lose the weight I've been able to absorb if you are in these isolated environments and everyone around you is involved in gangs and crime and drugs it's very difficult to model yourself after something that you don't see in real life totally true totally true and that's why I get more information needs to get into areas I agree with a lot of the opportunities that need to be provided by education getting people to be educated outside their local public school for kids that grew up in these environments seem to be people that have gotten out and then come back and talk to them right and tell them how to do it but nothing to do with telling kids that you live in an evil country to taking to keep you down maybe not but there are there has been a very small amount of emphasis placed on taking these impoverished communities and figure out how to engineer them out of the situation I need the amount that we've spent on a federal level and state level on educational programs and poverty programs overtime but it really is not a money problem and just terms of $80,000 check and the problem will be alleviated restarting but I do think that there is an argument that there can be some way of engineering whether it's community centers or education or doing something differently in these places to chip away at this problem so on that stuff we totally agree the only point I'm making about the 1619 projects when you teach people that they are the victims of a society it makes it very difficult for them to succeed the story of the Black America should be a story of unbelievably brave people something over systems that sucked right me that that is the story of Black America most black Americans do not live under the poverty line in United States huge black middle class upper class how do you fix Baltimore how do you fix Detroit how do you fix the southside of Chicago once you stop crime then businesses are happy to invest in those areas and I can get businesses to invest in those areas and provide jobs has gone you need in fact one of the reasons that you have such a vast differential and Rachel crime in the United States is because of white racism is appointed Jane Levy ready for their lifetimes made points out that the reason is because you have to make sure that law-abiding people are protected by law abiding businesses are protected the people want to live there that people want to invest their you have to have a re-establishment of faith in churches right need social institutions outside of government that are promoting things like family you need you need more than one reason anymore companies in these areas is make an offer educational opportunities to get internship deals to go to college and then come back and work for us for a couple of years opportunity to provide a safe space for business to work in for free speech to florist in for education to be valued you need to go and you need to make clear to every kid if you graduate high school then you will have a shot at College which by the way is 100% true today if you're a blackhead and you graduate high school with any level of achievement you'll have a very solid shot at least going to a community college and Peace Corp that one order Prevail here a safe space for life liberty and property and ownership of private property and we are going to make sure that you was inviting citizen have the opportunity to succeed because the biggest obstacle to young black kids growing up again in the moment the drugs the crime the fact that there are no fathers in a lot of these areas Roland fryer black buzzard Harvard he's done excellent work showing that I should the number one factor in allowing kids to it to rise is not even having a father in the home so you can eat a single mom but there's a lot of other male father figures around that helps fill in the Gap these are practical thing giving his the ability to pick the school they go to stay don't have to go to the local crappy public school if it's a local crappy public school would be a solution here but this all starts with the notion that it is not racist in the slightest to suggest a Law & Order have to Prevail and that people should be protected in their exercise of the right although that might be an unpopular opinion I agree with Libya solution here but this all starts with the notion that it is not racist in the slightest to suggest a Law & Order have to Prevail and that law-abiding people should be protected in their exercise of the right I think you're a hundred percent right on that and I think although that might be an unpopular opinion I agree with you

there's two moments where I was like this is a real opportunity for us to come together and one of them was the moment the lockdown happened it it felt to me very similar to right after 9/11 where everybody was confronted with their own mortality holyshit like we we might be on the verge of a pandemic like in a movie where a lot of the people we know died and here we have to be kind to each other we have proven that this is what's important family is important and I remember thinking I've never been closer to my fan never been close to my friends were calling each other all the time we will it was like it was there was there was real hoping that I was like if we get through this we're going to be tied up going to know what means something what counts. Fuc stand-up comedy f*** everything else man what what's important is Love and Friendship then it started to get angry only took like three or four weeks where people started getting like they were scared the people started getting shittier with each other online and then basically swore off Twitter yells like this is just too toxic into hostile the second moment more thought we had the opportunity to come together was George Floyd So George Floyd died and all the sudden you have these black lives matter protest and maybe we could finally make a dent on racism maybe we can finally make a dent in police brutality maybe this is a moment where we can come together and realize what's important is community solidarity then what we're all in this together like this is cray and then the cops need to be reformed like they can't live like an ID we should take it into account PTSD maybe we should take into account the fact that these f****** guys are pulling up on people every day that might shoot him in the face they might never be able to see their family and their kids let's rework this let's think this s*** through postfix killed the most Wing newspaper in America and you like not good enough in Washington DC the lockdowns the original lockdowns I was like okay I'm on board I'm taking this thing really seriously about parents in their sixties I feel like you know I'm in good health I'm fairly Young on 36 but for my parents ravaged Italy it ravaged Spain it it ravaged New York like they're there a couple things you shouldn't don't take the old and send it back into the nursing beyond that but just staying away from each other and totally distancing what kind of commonsensical stuff that people have known since the flu I don't know a single human being watched that tape and didn't think okay that guy deserves to go to jail shopping rather the officer in that case in Georgia I know she was bad cops are so they can't get hired at different places but they quickly turn from Solutions are bad idea what we need to do is we need to shout about everything we can possibly imagine all at once and you know what instead let's have a conversation about why was George Washington a bad guy when people really saying defund the police in my cooler heads prevail but they're going to realize and I think they're realizing it now in New York City in New York City has had record crime record homicide who would have thought I mean I would have never thought I would have never imagined I would look at Garcetti and go well he's better so weird he saw that you cannot protest but only black lives matter protest that would have been the moment when I realize that we were all out that was the moment when Global pandemic and randomly and then you get millions of people in the streets yelling at each other and breathing on each other and spitting on each other and got health professionals on so you think you can do that now I am for your freedom to protest I'm 100% for your freedom to protest I'm also for your freedom to go to the gym I'm also for your freedom to go to a comedy club if you so choose I'm for your freedom to go to a restaurant look they figured out how to do restaurants in a lot of places that the servers wear masks and many of them wear face Shields you distance to tables apart from each other you do temperature checks you take people's names and addresses down when they enter so that if anybody gets sick if there's any sort of cotton they've been able to do that transmission are typically closed areas people in solid proximity with each other for long periods of time I made this point on line I got shellac for it but I was pointing out that most Americans are wearing masks right now bipolar get a 59% of Americans say they always wear masks when they leave the house and if you look at the map of mass wearing across-the-board in the places where there are the most cases people wearing masks I wasn't saying masks don't work I wear a mask if you think it's like around you you're wearing a mask in your socially distancing so this is this idea that Gavin Newsom knows best how you want to live your life bars and restaurants and they didn't really have a day searching for comedy clubs they they sort of talked about it as a live performance venue but then that puts comedy clubs at the same place as the Staple Center which sounds crazy right and so they were right about to do that and then post this protest only I think it's bars to sing about bars as close talk people are allowed Warmoth guitar in close proximity with others and that's pretty much it. They are in the crazy thing was that they were saying like you can only protest if it the black lives matter protest what about a protest for increasing your immunity what about a protest for educating people to that the techniques and strategies for increasing your immune system it is that there are there out there and there's no discussion about this month's help professionals who sees me amongst our politicians if you listen to help people that really understand the human body they'll tell you there's a lot of strategies as a lot of things you could do first of all lemonade alcohol eliminate caffeine eliminate sugar eliminate all the b******* in your diet start taking vitamin supplement get outside get some vitamin D get get your body healthy exercise do do all these things and you will increase your immune system you increase your body's Health you don't hear a word of that all of it is just stay inside you know we have to stay apart to keep everybody safe and the number one factor for transmission Remains the home right at that still occur in every society people going home and getting into each other and when they were four for me one of the breaking point in La was was when they decided they were going to shut down all open areas it does feel like bottom line are a bunch of gas in American society and then a bad thing happened and everything is sort of like a house of cards and then there's a little bit of weight put right on top of the house and cars and everything just collapsed in on itself at the same time as the George Floyd protest let people to start looting and then people that didn't give a f*** about George Floyd or black lives matter which is stealing s*** and then this police was letting them steal they're standing down in Beverly Hills and Santa Monica literally cops standing there not peaceful hours between sunset and sunrise was unbelievably peaceful I've never heard this term before work a protest turns into a vast Riot wrecking all of Melrose and everybody's like what was mostly peaceful then I need to be treated as well breaker so I believe the first I believed you were protesters protesting if your Lutheran the rider then you should go to jail then he refused to make that distinction and then they act like the cops are the bad guys when they come in to arrest people for violating license in Portland right now they're trying to burn down the damn Courthouse didn't have a charge releasing them it wasn't like the Gestapo was thing I'm sorry but you decided that you want to throw a firebomb at the at the federal courthouse and your local mayor said he was going to let the police do anything until DHS came in and arrested you tell s*** I mean why does smashing the windows at Amazon go at the Steve Martin right they can literally tear down the structure of society

something that we're seeing with society and culture in general one thing that sort of does support the idea of maintaining the sort of rigid discipline is that when things start to slide just a little you lose like a little these little incremental steps they slide and people go out God what's the big deal what do you care and you like I see where this is going like I said it's going down that way this is not going to stop its lining the whole life and the the move from La being a pretty safe fairly nice city suburban and orientation to just overrun with horror shows is really I thought it would be at all for decades and then all the sudden early 2000s weird film down there and I'd like this is crazy like has anybody seen this is anybody know this cuz it was homeless streets like you have go down these gigantic in Downtown LA for people don't live in LA you think oh downtown like downtown New Yorker downtown Cleveland kind of picking up but I took my family there before 4 months before her so we went to we were going to go to it there's a famous donut place there so we said just wanted was Goofy Sunday things like Jesus Christ this is crack I don't want him to be freaked out but I'm like this is nuts area stuff in LA with her of localized I have a percentage of people who are homeless are drug addicted or mentally ill but you know is it for people who live in the suburbs like this it was localized is not like a pretty decent suburban area because I agree with you that it was it was very isolated Skid Row is very nicely downtown LA was very I remember one time we were filming in Downtown LA and we were on a gurney or I guess that's one of those things called and as we got up we could see people smoking crack and the guests on the Shelf real smoking crack welcome to LA right there but I didn't feel bad about it felt like look it's unfortunate but this is not like indicative of all of La we're just in a shity spot cuz it's really cheap to film here it was ever going to get to the point where you're on like Winnetka off the 101 and there's 80 f****** tents and they put a porta-potty there they put a porta potty apartment buildings we got some Porta-Potty to put every underpass shall have a porta-potty thanks to Mayor Eric Garcetti law enforcement all that what happened how did it get to this stuff away and they could Rouse them or they can rest them Bypass or boy during food and they said that this is a violation of people's personal property and the courts are allowed to leave and then there was the sort of equity movement business district but why can't they do it in like more Suburban areas why can't they just move into nicer areas after all there's 12 million people and they shut down the entire County to the douchebags could run around shattering Windows pretending that they were standing up for social justice they shut down the entire County douchebags could run around shattering Windows pretending that they were standing up for social justice at 1 p.m. so that people could run up and down Rodeo Drive talking about capitalism sucks while tweeting from their iPhone

that's why I was asking about like the Full House days was it hard at it just a little bit cuz you were you had a dirty act but it wasn't all just flew until after and Full House in the video show or simultaneous and they were Family Funeral 7 at night on a Sunday I'm hosting videos I can't say here's another f****** video. Can't do that right and I didn't say f*** that much of packed few years ago dice called Migos you stole my my s*** after you after Full House ended you start stole my I said what did I steal but you didn't you say f*** as much as radio and one day he died and I'm like yeah you're funny you don't want to be f****** beholding these c********** because these m************ need the movies and their shows he goes because you go on the Run we can you make a good living when I was thinking about the road so I just started booking gigs I literally just listen to him first of all I'm 27 years old you know and then when I really started going on the road like we're really was when I left the store that 2007 time when I left the store that's when I started torrent that's when I really started touring cuz I was kind of angry to I was like you know I put all that time of that place and in a I thought what we're doing like that Mencia thing I thought that was doing the right thing I thought there was a real problem and so when that was the reaction was like okay I'm going to show you motherfukers this this attitude like I'm going to show you and then I did my best work nothing wrong with that yeah that was my best work was after that because I was you know my best my first real big special was 2009 two years after that and then you know and I don't have any hate for that dude then I hope he gets better like I hope he's doing great I really do I think he I think he has learned his lesson hope he has how people forgive them to I don't I think that's a problem you know I think many people have had it you know some real famous people have had it that he was just a vacuum cleaner of of stuff he hated yeah and I loved him Beyond and he was he was Maria he's at he's he's from every hundred years of Robin Williams comes this is what you brought up what was going on doing those family shows and then do a stand-up special while the two shows were in the top 10 Full House in America's Funniest Home Videos Boathouse row that's a filthy but but I love doing family entertainment that's my many different sides I love doing stuff the whole family can watch together I don't look at that and go oh f*** that that's b******* you know that says it's not the cynical guy that can come out and be blue for the sake of blue I wasn't blue for the sake of blue I just did what I did and you know it just like you did what you did you know your UFC stop it's like but to I didn't HBO special and it did well but in the ratings or whatever but it was not good and I I made it so you can't see it and Richard jeni loved it and he would say to me I loved that special and I was I was saying f****** it but it was like an hour long and it took a half an hour it was about me being in a dream trying to missing my gig so I was trying to make a cuz I want to be a filmmaker and then the next half-hour was basically a half-hour stand up and I just didn't do any of it right you know and but there were a couple really funny moments in a couple good bits and Richard told me he thought it was one of the funniest specials in most invented that he never seen and thrown by that and I started to get more like what what I want to do and stand up and I was like I just want to make people laugh I just went up and then when the shows ended I started directing some stuff and then I did a special called that ain't right and that was the HBO special that upset a lot of people and also put me in Rolling Stone and a Newsweek and all the does your human self people because that's what you would always been doing but they didn't expect that out of you cuz they wanted Full House in America's Funniest Home Video who would go to see that what am I going to do hug people and clean you know of doing a bit that could get him fired from the show put on stage that if he says anything wrong and he's on the squeakiest squeaky family entertainment you know he went from Deal or No Deal to this other thing he's doing now was it America's Got Talent is just the outskirts of it how bad is it somebody wrote that down the whole world is Howie Mandel now yeah I just told me like he's a prophet I forget who it was I forgot who wrote that you're like datejust associated with Bill Cosby okay for the longest time people saw Bill Cosby I got it out on weekdays that I talked blue onstage cuz he said you don't need it and but I would see him I would almost here like you saying motherfuker in between I want to know that I would have loved to seen that proved anything but the truth is that is why that's what is club that he was in my boys club or hate to say that cuz it's so misogynistic but it was a guy that looks like what I look like I look like your dentist your accountant or somebody maybe your gynecologist if it's a good week but not yours but I'll continue I swear I just had a moment of doing like 10 of those that go nowhere but but the truth of it is for me to say that is the Joe for me to that get snow we're also so I have to have content and the more specials I did and The more I've done stand-up like I was about to shoot a new one this year I've got like an hour and a half. Corso everybody's going to have 12 minutes of coated but I don't know what it's going to be but it was really I was about to talk about racial Injustice ready to go cuz I've got all this stuff when I was a kid and segregation and I was living it and did not segregation and I was living it and didn't understand it when I was 6 7 years old in Virginia so is like I started that I have the more it much more in as much more intent and what I want to do right now and make people laugh I got to throw a dick joke and just to make myself happy

we don't have much time you do you have a heart out in one minute I just want to know what what do you think goes down November and how hopeful you for the future cuz it seems to me like we're f***** no matter who wins cuz the chaos that were saying the civil unrest or saying it's going to either accelerate or or or or spread one way or the other so I think that together either Amy direct down the entire system the ladder is not really a great recipe so we can have normal political argument with the former or the country is toast as far as what goes down in November right now and get it says from get skunk we're really wrong physically in Wisconsin and Michigan in Pennsylvania on this one because Trump is universally losing and like all the swing States and isn't spinning distance in Texas he's got a lot of ground to make up right now Trump who is innately volatile and looking for something to benefit as His Own Worst Enemy Has His Own Worst Enemy Hillary the untold story 2016 at the Trump and Hillary lost hated Hillary Scott and the people who hated both Trump and Hillary broke her from pretty heavily right now people who don't like our breaking nearly universally provided because Trump is so off-putting and that's it for a long time politics is about the art of making hard to vote for your opponent and easy to vote for you and Trump is fairly good in everyone and he is awful what time are breaking nearly universally provided because Trump is so off-putting and that's it for a long time politics is about the art of making hard to vote for your opponent and easy to build for you and Trump is fairly good in everyone and he is awful he has got off with number to making it easy to vote for him that that's that's a toughie

every single generation hopefully a society doesn't implode when I've nuclear war every single generation is going to learn from the mistakes of the past and hopefully improve that's what we're hoping for and we should be happy that we can look back on a lot of these people and say we understand now how deeply flawed they were and what was wrong with George Washington or what's what was wrong with Thomas Jefferson although he did you know draft the Declaration of Independence he was a slave owner and this is one of the contradictions of our society in our culture there was other kids with the slaves of America that that of checks and balances that prevents people from getting too much power to hurt other people and we also want to recognize the flaws of human beings are not necessarily the system and it just changing the system is not going to change the underlined Clause of human being between definitely have to thank you cuz they had it nailed it was Paradise for short. Of time it's the worst rate of this year because these people basically took over this gigantic chunk of Seattle and said we're going to show you how it's done they wind up being the police they want a beating the f*** out of people who did anything they didn't want to do including film things they wind up C-Murder you saw a massive graffiti you certainly saw borders their borders put up they kept cops and coming and they kept a lot of people from coming in after it was the beat up journalist they took over private property top-rated private properties not buildings they built they didn't make a deal didn't barter they didn't have some sort of a beautiful mutually beneficial agreement with these people that own these buildings they took him over it took him over to start spray painting should all over him it's crazy but it shows you like your child licked childlike idea of what you can do that's better you don't take him to you that you don't really understand that the founding fathers really did put into play place all these checks and balances to keep someone from abusing power and as much as Trump would like to overcome all that you see time and time again he's a great example and in many ways of how this system really is beautifully engineered from 300 f****** years ago cute minority of people write this what they called tyranny of the mob afraid of this and that stuff that is worth remembering you know that they tearing down that system because you want to build something more beautiful if it looks like jazz or chop then anything is myopia with which we look at the United States so when you're dating somebody it's very easy to see all the problems with the person you're dating when you're married to someone is certainly easy for my wife to see all the problems May and there are plenty but when he'll tell the other people ever all the problems we got the biggest problems that Humanity faces and has base are not happening in the United States they're happening everywhere else China right now is shipping uighur Muslims on trains after shaving their heads to concentration camps were there being forcibly sterilized there actual problems on planet Earth that is not to say there are problems in United States but they're not the same in terms of debris and they're not the same in terms of scope and to pretend that the system of the United States needs to be ripped down from the inside and that if you build a beautiful lie system that you will shave Humanity that is not to say there are problems in the United States but they're not the same in terms of debris and they're not the same in terms of scope and to pretend that the system of the United States needs to be ripped down from the inside and that if you build a beautiful lie system that you will shape Humanity such that we are all Saints and Sinners you're on your mind

what do you do in this environment when you look at the way people distrust the police now in particular mean I mean I've been reading stories about cops going to Five Guys Burgers and they can't get served because people won't serve cops and this idea that all cops are bad and this is really really disturbing perspective to me because you're seeing what's happening right now in Chicago you're seeing what's happening right now in New York will you have this massive uptick in violent crime because it's perceived that the police presence has been diminished greatly so how do you reaffirm the trust in in in law enforcement and what do you do to reform law enforcement because clearly there are some people that are cops it should not be cops if you don't do some bad has specifically had a precedent in law so you could do something bad but as long as nobody else has done the same exact bad thing before you're not subjected to civil liability you could a little complicated to a qualified immunity generally means that if I do something bad then as a police officer if I act within the scope of my general reasonable Authority you can see the actual weight is too broad is because that did the standard used to be you would have to act as a reasonable police officer if you acted as a reserve police officer and you took a reasonable action right Somebody went for their waistband they had an object in there even know who's gone you shot them right you wouldn't presume to be suitable because that's still reasonable you traffic in the back you can still get away with some bad stuff and not be sued for it so that needs to be curved that's one thing second police Union contract need to be utterly redone across the country police Union contract right now protect a lot of bad cop right because the police unions are designed to protect the members the members of the Union is that police unions who are disciplined for violation of procedure that they can't just leave LAPD and then go work for Ferguson PD but the biggest thing right now lack of faith between police and citizens really is the media because there's been a lot of talk about the racial constituency of a police force has the majority of the LAPD is minority and majority the Baltimore PD is minority I believe that a huge percentage of the of the Chicago is minority so really is not about you lots of white cops in black neighborhoods in Baltimore has a lot of Black Ops in Black neighborhood and that is not solve the problem of people Miss trusting the police on an endemic level good cops and 12 cops 12 too bad you have 12 bad cops if you have a 130 good cops and 12 bad cops but the hundred and thirty won't do anything about the 12 bad cops you've got 242 bad cops in some ways become much more stringent so for example cops for sure here's an example of the cops that push down that old band and where is it Buffalo New York is that where was old man down and the most Bonkers part about that was with the president reacted like watching an elderly senior citizen get pushed down by a young strong man all the different martial arts disciplines that I gained a lot of cops get involved in that there's a lot of cops there's a lot of good people out there the f****** insane job and so many of them have PTSD for sure I will say that one of the great myths is that the big threat in the black community in the United States is law enforcement it's just nonsense it's not only nonsense of counterproductive nonsense across the United States in a country of 42 million black people when it happens it doesn't matter what the statistics are people see that that you and that video gets shared 200 million times it looks like there's two hundred million white cops killing a black guy love and this is why I said that the media is treatment of the stuff is just a recipe just the media it's it's social media if you presented a that's like why are you ignoring people lived experiences that's racist how can you prevent the data the data is the date it doesn't take into account the full story nobody takes into account and awful lot of the story which is why it's called Data anecdotal evidence is evidence of an anecdote it is not evidence of a broad National friend nor is it evident that take me abroad National policy like cutting back funding to the police in a time of rising crime is a good idea because you saw a video on YouTube is videos the positive side if there is any positive side is that its they're accountable now on this has been going on forever if you talk to people that are black that grew up in in poverty-stricken areas they will tell you horrific stories about being abused by cops and I think the numbers like 25% more likely black person or brown person getting any sort of interaction with a cop is 25% more likely to be physical over them to be abused that's that's real statistics of them being killed do white people get killed more by cops than black people what does way more white people that's the Roland fryer study there a few compounds that have yet to be sort of worked out I think probably why people are less likely to believe that the cops going to kill them where is black people are probably convinced the cops going to kill them that that might play a factor in why there's more white people being killed by cops the one thing that we know for sure is that the greatest threat to Black life just like the greatest threat to White life is members of your own race killing you like to talk about actual murders white people are killed by white people black people are killed by black people people you know Terry Crews the actor goes on with the results on Lemon lemon doing the black lives matter and Terry Crews says we'll all lives matter and down but no black lives matter doesn't mean all black lives matter at all black lives matter police brutality right now is like why are we talking about all black lives matter because if black cops black people and why wouldn't those life matter to and this is where the sloganeering gets in the way of actual progress because of Don Lemon from 2013 chastising again all this is commonsensical entry for all Races is not just black people young white people in Appalachia need to get their s*** together everybody needs to get their s*** together again with the same thing was around them all the time is crime people taking pills everyone having babies out of wedlock people impoverished no hope no no potential for escape everybody needs to get their s*** together again young white people in Appalachia a deal with the same thing was around them all the time is crime people taking pills everyone having babies out of wedlock people impoverished no hope no no potential for escape

Trader Joe's Trader Joe's Trader Joe's is not racist I guess they have Mexican products that they were calling Trader Jose's and some board person in their basement side to create a petition that got time by 2400 other board people about why it shouldn't be called Trader Jose is because that's racist so apparently it's cultural appropriation Mexican people and other so Trader Joe's different pizza companies in all these Italian who is the white man who adores Mexico I love the guy I love listen to his videos I love Mexican food so watching this guy's videos it's like I love someone who's really into something you know I just got to get a kick out of even if I used to watch on PBS that would make furniture with ancient tools I could use like like ancient like a difference old timey sauce and chisels and s*** and you would make these wooden chairs and tables and furniture you kind of look like that but he was he was really dressed like an old timey guy and he had this old timey shop and would make the stuff I loved watching him I don't give a f*** about his shity furniture I don't feel what I cared about was the fact that this guy was really passionate about his thing it was very attracted to me and I feel the same way and I'll watch this guy Rick Bayless talk about Mexican Cuisine he loves it he takes regular trips to Mexico and learns how to cook these dishes in the traditional way and it talks about his great passion the guy just got s*** all over there were just like your culturally appropriating you shouldn't be doing a surrogate man and all the things that are good from everybody else's culture is like from all of the different cultures how much things would suck to be terrible so this kind of stuff is just crazy Taekwondo Korean martial art I learn to count in Korean I had to speak all the techniques in Karina Grand Washington Post saying that we should just keep changing the name of everything like literally forever was just keep changing the name of everything said you know there was this town and I think I found a non-offensive name for the found something else that was offencive like 3 years from now we should change the name of the town we are living in 1984 right you or we'll talk about renaming everything people will find a way to find a way to be mad offended over if you have to get go so far they have to be offended by Trader Jose's do you got nothing going on in your life there's a dramatic a man for being offended and acting like a victim and they're just thinks that like their actual victims in this country we're going to fix the World by renaming Washington DC cuz Washington was bad so what you do lately in all his wisdom's like what are you doing next what about Lincoln what about other going to take down George Washington and everything's like oh he's so crazy meanwhile that's exactly what they're doing that was what they were doing what I mean in Chicago will that I was actually Christopher Columbus who was legitimately a bad guy like literally all the people were like enslavement celebrate those bad people anymore that we know what they now that we know what they really really Christopher Columbus statue is not all the bad things he did the Arawak the point of Christopher Columbus statue as we are glad that the western civilization came to the Western Hemisphere I kind of agree with that principle I think it is a good thing the western civilization came to Western Hemisphere and yes there's a lot of brutality and cruelty me to talk about all those things but this notion that the only cruelty that ever existed in human history came at the best of Western Civilization that everything was in Paradise before Christopher Columbus came that Christopher Columbus doesn't deserve a statue in specific that we should do that like but everybody was a product of the time and therefore no one deserves a statue or recognized when there's a statue of Christopher Columbus we're not honoring how he treated the Arawak no one ever thought that we put up a statue of Christopher Columbus because he was really sweet the natives on the other end of that right that nobody's home what is the purpose of a statue like when you have a Christopher Columbus statue like what is the purpose of that statue we not we all know who he is we all know what he did why do we have an enormous bronze version of him in the middle of a park and then presumably say that Western Civilization arriving here was a good thing we are now the only good people who have ever lived everyone who came before us was just a horrible person and we are the only good humans would like to have us we're the only people who ever lived for a completely seamless and we can work from our perch at the top of morality everyone who came before us has people were all garbage compared to us another were people who was among the people who you can say it was garbage compared to you like I don't think that you living in a better person everyone who came before us and say that those people were all garbage compared us another where people who are garbage compared to us but I really don't think that Washington was among the people who you can say it was garbage compared to you like I don't think that you living in 1770 a better person and George Washington George Washington helped build

I think all right don't you think that at least some good has come out of him doing that where it's sort of raised awareness for police brutality just let it just put it to the Forefront let people let people understand that this is a problem no 7 ones that don't kneel for the flag but say in the name of the flag you should do x-rays Martin Luther King said in the name of the flag civil rights are necessary the name of the flag why is it trash an American flag to take an 8 isn't that in in some ways just another gesture of respect like you are not doing what everybody wants you to do which is put your hand over your heart but you're doing something that's also respectful and Silent you not standing up and going f*** the American flag f*** these people you're actually taking it to another level respect your taking knee you're bending the knee whether you're doing it for something that you want to talk about later saying I'm not going to stand up because this is my way of acknowledging the fact that there have been a lot of people that have been mistreated by police and murdered by police and this is how I do it this is how I treat racist police killing black people I take that moment to take a knee like how is that so disrespectful like how is that any it's a Jetta silent gesture it's not uniform like it's not doing this thing nobody else is doing but you're doing something that's very respectful you taking me and well that's certainly not the way that he intended when it first started that way I mean you can because he literally and don't you think that if you just look at the jester itself is taking a knee even more respectful than standing with your hand over your heart and then I imagine millions of us would routinely take a knee for the American flag originally knighted to me for cue while everybody else has their hand over their heart and silence the black power fist at the Olympics to say like we're fighting for civil rights Jim Crow laws still in operation around the country it's really kind of nasty but he's not a statistician right so he's looking at things like the Eric Garner case or you know it which is a terrible one right cases that you see like when the guys just selling loose cigarettes in Australia from the store is terrible case you see something like that and that motivates him to do that and I know what you're saying that these anecdotes and this is doesn't Encompass the full statistics of Cops vs black men and how what what is it exactly but that's not his area of expertise anyway he has he has an address quarterback Coshocton who is terrible in MA they bench Colin Kaepernick formulas that forgot bench that he started doing the kneeling for Life broadcast ebony legs bad the way that he characterizes the only was bad Kaepernick I mean I don't as an athlete is he not good like quarterback so I mean he had one fantastic one hit wonders and sports people can't figure it out season 2 and its QB rating started to decline the spokesperson really I don't like the idea that you were going to a tribute to all of America a sin that is anecdotal in nature and number two cannot be attributed to America's highest ideals were doing it wrong if you want to fight police brutality say America is not living up to her promises say that the promise of America is like there is a way to every successful social movement in American history that perspective the same thing holds true on Race the same thing holds true on police brutality if you make an indication and you say to Americans as American I know that overtime my fellow Americans are going to come to realize that they need to leave in accordance with the fundamental principles that founded the country that's unifying to say that the American flag is currently non unifying is is really bad like to the point where you have college campuses you say it's anecdotal that you do you know what he's reacting to something that's anecdotal but this many of those anecdotes and then you see them over and over again the problem is they're so they're so prevalent for so many videos does it my friend Joe Schilling is a kickboxer in his entire Instagram has been dedicated to bad cops I would last week on just showing all these videos of bad cops I mean yes it's a goddamn yeah I mean that's what was the initial interaction that wanted what was his motivation to do that with her in it at a a single instance of police brutality that caused him to do that for years ago black player Garden one is much cleaner or even cause of death so this is one of the problems is going to make a case that the police officer is not responsible for George Floyd's death and play the same way that the New York police officers made the case that they are not responsible for our thermostat and the autopsy the initial autopsy tends to support that what that suggests is not that they're traveling is good or clean or decent but if you're going to charge him with murder that's that's a hard charge to make an illegal level the morning people now that because the mood the next move will be premeditated murder can I take it off before I was going to put a video that's why I had to hear that actual first video from talking about him donating a million dollars I think he had guns drawn on him which is probably what started forgiving those opportunities Byzantine and as far as taking a knee Tonight Eric as well as myself had a long conversation with Nate Boyer who is the military vet and we're talking to him about how can we get the message back on track and not take away from the military not take away from 5 in our country but keep the focus on what the and as we talked about it we came up with taking the knee because there are issues that still need to be addressed and it was also a way to try to show more respect to the men and women that fight for this country and people of color to a different glasses for 5 days after these statements are made so he said he changed after talking to somebody made military

the book the first of all look ugly what they were going to close in I was but it was too well ultimately for them to close in but they knew we were there so we were praying the whole time with kind of nerve-wracking cuz it was my last two days you understand I was supposed to get out of there what do you roast leave the country I was due out I had volunteered volunteered for an extra three months in order to get out of the army 3 months sooner if a two-year deal so what I didn't want to do that cuz I was going nuts with the rules and regulations and I've gotten into some trouble with that so I can extended then come back for another three months and that ended up in this Mission how much did your time serving impact your you're directing and you'll get you had these life experiences as someone was just a filmmaker there really can't draw upon like you've had actual combat experience and when you're making movies combat I mean that has to be a gigantic advantage or at least it adds layers to it that are almost impossible to Creek to recreate for someone is just trying to imagine what it's like and that was very important we did platoon get the exact distances and what and the amount of Firepower is not as usual it's not as intense generally speaking is the movies make it let you know so much to show they bring the enemy much closer they they condense things and they they amplify as much as possible now I did that two here and there so I'm I'm guilty too but I think overall it's way overdone and newer stuff that's come out since 2001 you know what the patriotic stuff and have been heavily militaristic is way off way off and people don't die that way like you know type of films like Mark Wahlberg May or you know what those kind of films they just Wayne way overdone anyway whenever they make and what's been reported it right away that was pretty quick tan and wasn't hero I mean the the Tom Berenger character in the book in the face was scarred distorted kind of handsome like that but he was a serious guy and he the platoon Sergeant in the squad sergeants and they were very important in our lives so I really saw officers I was going to get in the jungle you deal with what's right in front of you so the sergeant was crucial orange is a crucial character so is the other character Sergeant Elias played by Willem Dafoe was he in another unit I had combined for different unit 7 3 combat units and combined them into one 1 unit 1 platoon for this movie purposes so the Willem Dafoe character was also based on a real person guess he was based on the guy I'm doing the loops long range Recon Patrol it was a great guy he was in the Apache kind of an Apache and Mexican mix quite sure what it was cuz I didn't get to know him that well but I admired him because he had that life Grace been around before he was on the door and a beloved figure after I left it at the unit he was killed about a month later in a friendly fire accident and I'll Friendly Fires we talked about it now but quite a bit you know because it's also underestimated people never hit the Pentagon cuts it all out especially in the movies that come from the Pentagon approval they don't like to emphasize how often I would say 15 to 20% and that's not just round fire from you get into a jungle situation you're close to people you don't really know where you're shooting sometimes you don't know where the where the incoming fire is is coming from so it's quite a mess as chaotic the radio people screaming shouting noise confusion and a lot of fear and that was highlighted for us when the Pat Tillman incident very important one we decided to postpone his NFL career and and go over and serve and was killed in Friendly Fire and it wasn't really reported that way for a while that's actually correct which is the point is if they don't really don't want the parents to know what's really going on so if imaginiff imagine 15 maybe 20% or dying from that friendly fire. This is not just ground fire this is of course bombing and certainly artillery fire because that is off placed it's not that easy to get the coordinates down in a tense situation where you can hit your where archery 20 miles away 40 miles away has to hit the spot when you're making a movie like platoon and this is it menu much of it is based on your actual real life experience how much preparation is involved and how much how much is it different than when you're making another movie cuz this is something that's intensely personal to you Bobby how much preparation well I got I got a great combat advisory been there as a marine they all died he came in out of the blue and the hien he was a real life for type so he remembered all the details of uniforms and fire and the and the Firepower and it's like a lot of details to put this together but the preparation I've been doing it for 10 years I started the picture 1976 I don't know what it I wrote it it wasn't made it was rejected by the by the powers-that-be the first time and then it was it was considered great great script but Too Young Too realistic a bummer a downer if you remember back in the seventies and Apocalypse Now and Deer Hunter Rambo Series where he goes back in fights a war again cuz I was driving crazy yeah the first one was pretty good but they're playing up the we conceived war with a lot of misinformation I go on in the book and talk about the lies that were spread by the military they propaganda they were winning the whole time they were using the body counts heavy body counts it's a mother free killing so much at so many of them they're not going to be that many left and but on the other hand as the years went on so they dependence there for their land man that was their country and they never gave up ever you could have nuked them and I that's what Curtis LeMay one point suggested you could have dropped a nuclear bomb it would have done it would have made the difference that God they didn't but America went to extremes to win that war poisoning the bomb is it the bombing of Vietnam crazy War instead of precedent for our lack of trust in the military the lack of trust in the government that guides military at the particular and how they deal with the veterans that are dealing with things like agent orange or you know they come back that were sick where they denied that this was part of the problem sure we didn't even have PTSD I never heard of but I think we all had it what did they call it back then shell-shocked I guess so but it was not diagnosed diagnosable it was not an ailment that you could officially catalog because if you did the Army would be admitting to a huge amount of insurance to get back to the issue of the original question was the platoon was rejected on for these two almost came to be again in 1983 it fell apart again in so heartbreaking story it's in the book and it's resurrected I mean I forget about I just put in the closet after those movies came out Midnight Express I had Scarface I wish I was another things my night and had directed The Deer Hunter told me he wanted to produce it with me as the writer as a director and that we would we would resurrect it because he said Vietnam is coming back and it would be took 3 years or two years for him to make it but the fact that he made it certainly gave us some impetus to make we made it very low budget and by the way was made by the same company as made Salvador my previous film they made him I made him back-to-back in Mexico and the Philippines back-to-back Finance very low budget by hemdale a British company led by a gentleman named John Daly and who is my mentor credit name in the book so we were nothing filming I don't know where were the bottom I mean we're in the Philippines and nobody really knew much about it at the Barnyard we were struggling to get it made and weather problems there was all kinds of logistical problems but we've been to Hell on Salvador the difficulties of making low budget films in between the time you wrote it in the time and actually got done was there ever any effort by the studio to try to water it down or to try to doctor it up and sure know that went on quite a bit but the do it at the very end with the MGM was supposed to be the distributor and Henry Kissinger was on the board of directors along with the Hague Alexander Haig you remember him I don't know but that's what the store they cover their ass by Tommy we can't make this movie we can't distribute this movie because the board would be against it now sometimes they say they tell you that without checking but in this case I don't know results film fell apart again this was a heartbreak like maybe I can move it a little bit or change it a little bit or do you just said to me Lyndon Johnson pulled out of the presidents March of 68 that was a big moment I think I'm all the shows everyone kind of knew that this thing was not going to work out and who wanted to be the last guy to get killed in Vietnam so I think 6971 more and more fractions more fractured fractious and there was more and more incidents at one point there was a pentagon document that came out I've seen it it said this situation in in the Army is getting so poor so bad morale is so low example is beginning to resemble the French mutinies in 1917 in the world war one that was a big concern of the Pentagon they knew what they were they thing was not going to work it was cracking from within so if we gave more and more and more and more credit to the Vietnamese South Vietnamese and saying when you look back what year did platoon come out 80 finally made it out and 86 86 number when you really think about it you're only talk you're not talking about that much difference distance between that movie coming out in the Vietnam War ending I mean in terms of how we look the world now I mean if we look at its 2020 we look at 2,000 that doesn't seem like 2003 that doesn't seem that long ago but that's kind of a timeline you're looking at and so in a lot of ways was probably very fresh in a lot of people's eyes particular people in the Pentagon it was quite something when it came out it was it was like a bomb went off went around the world wasn't just America this film played everywhere and was guessing a shock at the time because it was more realistic than honey Warfield that they had seen and of course it was dirty you know I mean it was a drug use in it description of the Division division in the Army we were we were drafty and my name is so it wasn't all volunteer you know and it wasn't all like gung-ho at all it was a split and I just showed this place as much as I could I would be in the I joined the camp by the people that I would say we're anti-authoritarian I wouldn't say they were anti-war because we didn't have anything like that the Army sucks the man sucks you know a lot of the black troops knew this one was a lot of dissension with a black shirt was too cuz when Martin Luther King got killed in April of 68 that had that had a negative impact over there it was a lot going on in the country and people were seen feeling it and new troops are coming in all the time from the Country Craft Eve so we were you know you got a feeling for what's going on did they feel different to you than anything else you've ever done in terms of a obligation because I really do think that that was the most realistic at that point for sure war movie ever made and the the one that left people with the most conflicted feelings and just this this feeling of as much as you can relay it in a film with notable actors that you you you showed the horrors of war in a way that I don't think it ever been portrayed before and it fell out the details right I mean did Bonnie and you see it being lifted into a helicopter that's really looks like a Deadman and then the pain of death I mean you feel the danger is never what you think it's going to be it's always comes up in another way it's like sloppy sometimes and battle and that's what I don't like about a lot of things don't work it's like Mike Tyson said you know at the window when you get hit in the face it's that's the way it goes it never play the little guy they meet resistance pull back bomb artillery 200 things take minimum casualties that's not what the Marines different that's what the alarm it works to a degree but the bombing is is very sloppy friendly fire but you have a lot of civilians killed to imagine when you finish a final cut of that movie and it got really how to be a very strange almost like you releasing A Child near you was in so much more personal and so much so much more significant I've been through so much I really I didn't it was about a dirty Civil War down in the in the Central America in which America again supported some pretty bad guys that squats and I showed that and that picture had not done very well because it had been America have been very little no interests really in the Central American issues of the 1980s in Nicaragua went down there to research the Salvadoran what I saw in Honduras was the beginning of another Vietnam that's one of the reasons I really committed to Salvador heavily when I saw the troops American troops now their women men and women young in uniform any of them National Guard troops are reserves for this I think it was pretty clear that Reagan was going to attack but it never happened because of CIA got busted for flying a cargo cargo over Nicaragua and it was a huge Scandal that led to the Iran-Contra unraveling was Reagan So Reagan was unable to do what he wanted to do in in Nicaragua although if we had mind the port we done everything possible supporting the contras all that pissed me off in other words it was like 20 years after the war 15 years after work I am back in Central America I'm seeing the same young guys like me in a country it is believing with her hearing from their superiors so you felt like this obligation to not just released Salvador but also released platoon as in platoon your experiences showing what the Vietnam War was really like and with Salvador saying hey this is happening again yeah that didn't work Mount so I didn't have much faith in it when it did come out how much of a surprise was it when it was a giant hit while I knew that the moment put it this way they shooting was you can tell from the young people the actors in the their enthusiasm for this say there was a hunger they were so delighted delighted to become so soldiers for the purposes of the movie we trained them on a 24 hour basis for 2 weeks and it was a it work if I wanted them to get no sleep and they'll die help me with that we we put them in a bivouac training situation by real when I'm sleeping you you basically pulling Sentry duty all night kind of you have you split your duty with foxholes three guys and thank Dellwood stage attacks and stuff in the middle of the night Airhead we have to make this more realistic what's the best way to do it and then I wanted young people as much as possible in the in the roles people who are fresh didn't look like they've done other movies and types everybody I know from the south a lot of people from the south of people from the Midwest a lot of University people Chicago especially Louis New Orleans and California and mix it all up but the whole idea from the beginning was that we're going to make this with our little bit of money would I make this as realistic as we could so we planned it that way the camp worked we got the full cooperation of the Philippine Army and some shity helicopters that they had that very dangerous ones but at least that was when it was a start I don't think so I don't think so cuz that it bothered me a lot until maybe in the old days but I don't I don't know one know what made you fall on that like what why was that there was a sag sag Union sent you you have to have 12 hour turnaround so a few of them quit we like gotten older and I went with Charlie who came of age about that time was my age when I was over there now so he was 19 20 so you know what that's what I want I wanted those faces once you have two faces you can train them Behringer into for the oldest and they that helped enormously than they were the anchors of operation when the film was this gigantic success. how did it feel to you that validate is idea that you had and in a shotgun to Ichetucknee it shocked me I mean four years has it been rejected 10 years you know that mean Idaho sick of it but when I got some people on my side that's a big that's a big difference and the Suzy azzam of the cast and they all died in all these great people in my camera man everybody they loved it and we made it and frankly we finished it we didn't budget 5150 days and 154 days but that wasn't we had the money in the in the in the that 10% contingency we finished it in 54 days and it was tough and we got out of there just in time because upon Sooners game and in the editing right away you can feel it people reacting to it in a different way we had it in there was no we had it in a little bit but you know we played with it playing with you massage it but right away I would say from the first screening on you could tell people were responding to this is real I'm never seen this Ryan pictures with existence. They they put a quality release a few theaters at Christmas in 86 and it open euge first day in New York there was a line of veterans young me veterans Overlook young I mean not World War II very little talk for a little anyting not a lot of the gung-ho stuff you here and at the end of it they were quiet and then some of the men get up out of their seats quite a few of them were sitting there still Interstate you somewhere crying it took off and then took off like I can't I've never really seen the world is like the third highest grossing film in America that year and it was it was a blockbuster because Buster because no children are allowed in you know you and you don't have much of a woman's audiences first so you don't figure on these things unit it took off and kept going and then the women started to come in the third week as it was getting more and more talked about stopping it

the thing about your films though that I think I can keep getting back to this but because you did go over there it's almost like it in your films like you have something you have to tell people but yeah it's like you have to give them medicine but you got to give it to him and sugar I wanted thorny subjects he was not the most popular guy for me it was a challenge same thing with a JFK murder I mean it was so so gnarly extra complex right because you took some Liberties there to try to move the plot along out but Liberties in the spirit of the I didn't violate the truth right now in this I mean I had to combine characters learn a lot from a person in what their opinion is like what do you think happened at Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone you get these very specific character types with these people have these predetermined patterns they plug into and the Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone is one of the weird ones that is one of the weirdest arguments and went when I talk to them about the Magic Bullet like in the old well that's actually been proven that can happen I mean I'm a guy who shoots guns I'm a Hunter and I know what happens when bullets hit bones it doesn't ever come out like that ever and I'll show you I think you know it was a hell of a shot but the bullet hitting those two people and finding its way on a Connolly's Gurney magically with very little Distortion the boat all is straight-up horseshit and the fact that that that still gets touted as being popped while this is actually how it could have happened and weird things happen with bullets sure weird things happen with both but one weird thing and never happened with those when they hit bone and shatter bone they always distort always about that we went back to the case again I'm taking all the information from the assassination records review board that came out of the film they were they passed an act to JFK Act Congress did was amazing and they allowed the board to exist for five years and they went through a lot of detail they were now to prove anything but they were they found a lot of little details that we put into this documentary the bullet but it also goes into so much else on the autopsy that screwed up the two autopsies the one in Bethesda and also the one in Dallas there was none that magic bullet work the guy who got hit under the underpass there was not one person and if the depending upon how much training he did between his time in the service and his I'm actually getting ready to shoot Kennedy you can get a lot better I don't know how much training he did when you can take someone who's three years ago a terrible shot and then they kill someone your way he could have done he's a terrible shot look three years ago he was a terrible shot well if that guy was driving a hard time the rifle it can be done but again whether it's likely or not that could be debated but it's the least ridiculous thing about that story will wait till you see the documentary pretty much proved that there's no chain of evidence on the on the rifle either I don't know I'm sure I'm sure did you read that David listen to book best evidence years ago a friend of mine and I read it unfortunately all day right before my stand-up comedy shows that night and I was so depressed I didn't think anything was funny and I went upstairs I had a terrible show and then I had to shake myself out of it for this because I was bummed out I was like I'd never considered it before I'm like Jesus Christ they killed the president they covered it up and we're paying for it to this day cuz I think mr. Kennedy was one of them really on the road to being a great president I think you did a lot of great things that people don't even know we put that in the documentary what he was actually doing in Africa he was about to get rid of him as vice president for the next election it was a big divide in thinking between Kennedy and Johnson and he was without doubt pulling out of the way there's a directive we we we bring it up and then from the deaf conference in Hawaii from earlier that year he was pulling out even made that very clear mother was also the Northwoods document which is hardly crazy in kind of conspiracy theory this is all from the Freedom of Information Act signed by The Joint Chiefs of Staff they were going to blow up a jet airliner blame it on the Cubans they were going to arm Cuban Friendly's and attack Guantanamo Bay they're going to do all this to get us to go to war with Cuba and it was it's it's stunning that this this isn't this is an actual plan by the United States government vetoed by Kennedy wasn't their plan was the plane into a building pull up a drone jetliner totem take a jetliner fly and blow it up in the sky and and you know a tribute all these deaths to that came about actually the Northwoods came about as a result of the movie because that was what they was found by the assassination wow to like what what is it like when you have this passion for this story and this is a critical story in the history of the United States and a clear piece of clear historical record of an assassination of a president and most likely who are there who I mean I don't know who you think was behind it I've been Florence and I think he needed some organized very organized top people to help them so I think it could have been a group of people that were involved in that maybe involving certain people in the Pentagon to because there was an awful lot of strange things that happen I mean we come from a pro-military system and year was Kennedy questioning it and then what do you know when after he was killed I mean it was insane for Lyndon Johnson to appoint him to the Warren Commission where he managed to control pretty much the earrings and who who was her who wasn't higher than what the CIA was delivering to the was a joke it was transparent a joke Arlen Specter being the guy who comes up the Magic Bullet there is another joke there's a there's a lot of that it's just very disturbing when it's one of those things where you go over that subject and you just believe in this state of the discomfort and unease and it's very hard to relax afterwards

funny about a movie or you riding with a guy like Tony Montana addictive how do you you you did you walk this fine line of telling telling the story accurately but actually making him likeable in some strange way he's not a hypocrite you see he tells the truth even when I lie the system bureaucracy that press down on by the way let me know let's be honest let's talk about the drug war I mean this is an invention too much my bureaucracy I noticed this in Vietnam it bothered the s*** out of me because we were sending five people non-combat people over there for one every combat person we had an infrastructure a Las Vegas of the of the material we had PX has a we had everything we wanted they said cars or a lot of the stuff was sold on the black market in the end by my master sergeants making a buck on the side you know there's a lot of s*** going on crime and the Vietnamese were benefiting from it they love the Americans of course they love this it's the same thing if it goes on and on and around what happened in the I think people need a lot of people just picked up on it they knew the War on Drugs was a lie yeah well most people today at least have a scent that it's not going well protected by u.s. troops washer and it's on Fox News so he's trying to do this weird propaganda job of explaining why in order to get these poppy Farmers give us information about the Taliban we have to somehow another protect their crops so you got American soldiers it's a crazy story this was born on by the way in the 1980s when we were when the we were supporting the mujahideen against the Russians troops and Edgenuity and them talking about it openly on Fox News and some up don't worry folks this is why they have to do this like it's it's it's one of the weirdest parts of the war at the beginning of the war we're fighting the Russians they got us going on that I know you didn't see that close early in the war making Gyros out of them action that the guys we support the we have the most money was too we gave him the most amount of Aid materials like the Killer the shipping that was CIA shipping out air America remember that movie yeah there was a guy who was in denial of this and I showed him the CIA drug plane that crashed in Mexico with several tons of cocaine in it just a few years ago I might this is a plane that have been to Guantanamo Bay multiple times like this is still going on all that s*** that happened with Barry seals and I mean that stuff still going on at the ugly story got a piece of it it's one of the most brutal brutal groups terrorist groups in Nicaragua killing civilians blowing up Farms scaring people and we supported them and she wanted a lot of bad guys everywhere in the world

give me about Rebecca you're asking me about you know why why I get attracted to these kinds of subjects and they don't seem attractive on the surface but when the more you get into him the more they can be exciting so I am a dramatist at heart really that is mine but I do best which is a dramatized situation I knew it could work I felt like you could work it was a surprise hit like platoon I mean basically I can you take this war is boring there's a lot of details I was in four different units you know time. Not much happens in this only things happen it's not that easy to make it happen in the movie time movie space so I took two different sergeants from two different units and I imagine what would they be like if they were in the same unit they were did they would Clash one would be the Law and Order guy guy who believed in what he was doing and farted fishes Lee and the other guy is this a guy who was an anti who's the rebel because they were like doing the marijuana people who are doing alcohol you know that split got a lot of the black guys I hung out with we're doing marijuana and they were doing the music the music was unbelievable there different kind of music than the Okie Music City on the Vietnamese civilians cuz we used we had we did Jungle duty but we also did a lot of Civilian Villages searching just searching whatever suffering searching searching we find stores and weapons is that they not necessary they were cooperating but sometimes they were forced to but a lot of guys screwed with them you know didn't like the Vietnamese at all which was not the black problem that was you know that was more of a it was a white problem so I felt there was a lot of that going on and I I couldn't that was not my thing and I just really didn't like what I saw a lot of cowardice to only imagine and that's a shock education I mean you talk about like a No Escape just thrust into this as completely too volatile chaotic world and then introduced to a bunch of different people that you weren't around when I got out I got thrown into jail in the book 2 announcer to really that's it money without it I would have been sunk into that prison it was awful prison was filled with blacks and Latinos I mean there are 5000 people in there for 2,000 beds why was the beginning of the drug war Nixon was elected but had not yet declared war on drugs but it was filled first stop was instituted when they they passed that sweeping psychedelic stacks of 1970s Civil Rights Movement a big part of what they were trying to do they were trying to make everything incredibly illegals schedule one so that they can have a reason to infiltrate these groups and start arresting people and break the group's up marijuana and then the devil drug character he was real footage of all the crazy s*** that he was actually into we get understanding of how nuts it was that this guy was in charge of spying on people and Lyndon Johnson the black civil rights movement had a communist base communism was supporting it very much Hoover's thesis to get people motivated to see your side of things back then you know during the whole Cold War communism being a motivating factor for any group yeah well that was a great way to get people motivated to see your side of things back then you know during the whole Cold War scare and the Red Scare is like communism being a motivating factor for any group

well it was a masterpiece and is it is that your finest moment in your your proudest moment you feel like as a filmmaker was one of the highlights of my life it's the climax of this book the 10 chapters he would lead up to that because my story starts in 76 I'm in New York I'm broke and depressed written 12 screenplays nothing's happened I've come close a few times nothing's going on and my marriage is ended my first I haven't accomplished my life and things it matters what the age of 30 you kind of wake up you say you know what can I do my grandmother dies I talk to her and talk to her on their deathbed she's she's dead but in France they let them my mother was friends she said then they laid they lay them out and I was talking to her and in this movie and scene where he communicates with her because she loves him and his own family life is quite disturbing in many ways it was for him a traumatic divorce between the mother of his mother and father and he goes into he goes into lizard what what happened in Spanaway Family 2 it's about have a family life can break apart you can become a child of divorce so his life kind of falls apart and he goes out for your hands Hugo said Vietnam as a teacher and he goes joins a Merchant Marine and all kinds of things that happen comes back to school goes back to University drops out again it writes a book write his first book about his experiences I did this before back in 1966 I was like 19 years old didn't work out it was rejected it was all too many published about 1997 is called a child's night dream so I was a writer from the beginning too much of a narcissistic I can't write about myself so I joined the army and volunteered for combat heading for Vietnam I didn't want to miss it and I want to see it right away cuz I do it for the experience Eisenhower supporter he was a lieutenant colonel in World War I met my mother I mean he was a strong he never been over there coming from a sheltered existence relatively I wasn't like I would I couldn't take my father's word for it anymore on anyting so I had to learn for myself that's why it was different from your father's perceptions of what would a border the war like many many people did the first several years until he got older and then he came around one day and he said you know I think it's at the age of 70 about 65 he said you know what what what difference does it make this Dominos bulshit Long Island I didn't change I know you're going to go to later in my life but basically I didn't change until I went to the strip in the Honduras which I just told you about with my friend Richard Boyle for Salvador in 1985 and went down there and what I saw in Central America confirmed that we were doing it again we were going into these countries we don't know what the f*** they were about we didn't and we were fighting this a most cases the interests of most of the people the majority of the people they had to pollution in Nicaragua cuz it was so corrupt major Revolution 1979 and the we've been opposed to that new regime ever since so when you first when you entered into the army when you signed up did you did you have clarity about this. Would you just have this idea in your head that you needed to find out what it was like no I wanted to get out of New York parents would divorce my father I want to get away from my father I want to get away from everything I knew I knew I didn't like Yale University I was in the class was George Bush you know I come from that generation of Donald Trump George Bush Bill Clinton play with those people because maybe they didn't have that sense of service at all I did I had sense of patriotism but I think call it I really think it was misplaced but I felt that I owe my country something I can't work just for myself

so when you put together JFK you have this film that is about this incredibly important subject but yet you want to make it interesting and you want to make it a great film and you succeeded in doing that but what is what is that like doing that Balancing Act of having so much information to tell that story so complex I needed a protagonist and the protagonist and who was the guy the only person who ever brought any kind of charges publicly was Jim Garrison and through hell came back to it and wrote another book and that's the book I I bought another words he was devoted to this he believed lot more than me he would eat better Patriots World War II and he served in Korea he didn't even sheep that mean he's been called every name in the book but he has a patriot he firmly believe that was killed by these intelligence forces and he went after and in those days you just couldn't do it you couldn't prove a covert operation we found out a lot more about why what was going on we know a lot more facts about how the media went after him with bulshit a lot of bulshit accusations and made him look as bad as possible you got an interesting sexual charger then you bringing all these crazies that you read it you read about people like Jack Lemmon mouth Walter Matthau all the lunatics around Orleans Dallas involved in the war against Cuba but he seems to have been definitely in the employ of the CIA yeah that we want to bring that out to but that story become and then the third story would be the Dealey Plaza the actual assassination so Garrison is not there he has to go back into the past 2 to find this out right so yeah so then that's that's three stories in the four-storey if you want to know the truth in my thinking at that time was a Donald Sutherland it's too much freaking for the coaster character he can hang out here he's Blown Away by he knows he's up against forces and what's larger than you ever thought and this truck what was the motivation for the Donald Sutherland character Fletcher Prouty he was a lieutenant colonel in the Air Force he was the focal officer between the CIA and the Pentagon and he was in charge of basically providing the CIA with military equipment for covert operations he worked in Tibet he worked in a lot of the operations in the 50s in the late 40s we had operations going on in Ukraine Ukraine at China Tibet he was he's trained Tibetans in the the Colorado mountains and any stores he's written several books Udall has used to brief him and told me stories about that everything changed after Kennedy was killed faster than you can imagine my combat troops another crazy character in that hole that the whole historical record is Jack Ruby a book called chaos by Tom O'Neil about the CIA and Manson in the 60s Jolly Jolly West thank you who was the central character in MK Ultra who they believe was involved in these various bits of plastic cell. Comes off of LSD during the whole operation midnight climax in San Francisco and they ran free clinic in Haight-Ashbury that's connected to Manson where they were giving people LSD and running studies on them in prison and Ruby who had shown no psychological trauma or distress after he left was a mess curled up in the fetal position on the ground and was thinking they were burning Jews in the streets and literally was in a psychotic State and they think they dosed him up while he was in jail yes yeah you can put you on back-to-back yeah it's a no rubies his contact alone he's goes back many years the forties he was going to he was mobbed up completely didn't want to do it he was forced into doing they didn't have the power to pull this thing off I think that they there now admit to it yeah you want to tell me to rub out Oswald Oswald was intended to die they are done that day and he couldn't be allowed to go to and we know that Ruby was there so groovy I think was pushed into this thing because they have to make it it was a quick operation we got to get to him you know and it's really crazy the story plays out 12 years later when on the Geraldo Rivera show did Gregory brings us up router film and introduced to the American public yeah and then you get the chance to see Kennedy's head going back into the left here and everybody's like what on the Ruby Affair don't forget the also he was urgently asking the Warren Commission to get me to Washington I want to talk but he knew we didn't know everything I don't think anyone knew everything so the whole idea was how can you get cancer out of the blue like that so suddenly apparently there was a doctor in New Orleans I forgot his name but working on it and dairy David ferrie was one of these people who know him. Had a lot of mice and he was operating on his mind he was using his mices cancer doses of cancer the idea was that they said they were going to kill Castro with it and tell him because it's so strong is named old enough to these mice and a cancer that was so powerful that get you I mean I heard everything off this ride seems to be truth to this do you feel like you're going to put it to bed with his documentary and best we can do is bed with his documentary in your ear mind like you can do the best we can do is I mean I know Jim to Eugenia working with me he's he's followed this thing like he's a fifth-generation researcher and he's very very up-to-date but I don't know yet

another movie like we're saying that.. Is the introduction for a lot of people a lot of people especially outside of Miami really just didn't understand how crazy things has gotten there and I have a good friend of mine who's an opthamologist who did his residency in Miami and he would tell me stories like he was there in the eighties when all the crazy s*** was happening and just seems like it was a war zone if you would just everybody was you just everybody coming in was shot people coked-up and all these overdoses and well let's I think there's a lot of sensationalism in that you know America likes War they like they like to play up the the machine guns and all that 1930 Chicago Time Magazine internecine Warfare because he was in the ER Cutthroats that used to used to see my toes next time I went over to Bimini one day to 2 to get some real information about them because they couldn't in the US they were scared so I located through defense lawyer a couple of some guys in the environment and went down there and I met with him and they were talking to cuz out with them anyways another kind of world they wasn't the government was on the take there and they had a lot of speed boats going out of there every night at the hotel towards the very close to Miami Hollywood screenwriting wants to talk to you did Midnight Express they like that you know they want to know about the business but then in the middle of this we are all coked up in the hotel and let you know the way conversation goes and I drop a name just like that you know a guy I talked to well he been a defense lawyer when I talk to him but in the past he been a prosecutor prosecutors off and flipped to defense attorney so when I mentioned that name excuse themselves when in the bathroom and like I said I f***** up I knew I f***** up and I didn't know it was going to come out of that bathroom you know if they thought I was some kind of cop some kind of underground in former because they didn't they hated that prosecutor that put them away and put one of them away so a few minutes went by there and it was pretty hairy I went back to my room they were staying in the same Hotel all night I was tense because you know I know they could come and get me it was their hotel they owned that they own the island but it was nerve-racking and I got out of there first thing in the morning the whole point is you say the wrong word sometimes in your debt that's that's the kind of tension I wanted for this movie I put it into the scene early in the picture with mr. Pacino goes into get naked pick up make a trade and he senses something's off in this meeting in the UND becomes that blood bloodbath with the dismemberment remember it was disgusting but you didn't have to show it do you when you are talking about someone who is in that world when when you're trying to make a film about a guy who is in that world who is not a good guy you're your main guy Al Pacino's Tony Montana is a bad guy but he's the hero it's a very strange movie will it is because he is a hero because he not like that movie when it came out I was disappointed at first it was a blacks and Latinos in the inner cities and went and they loved it and also the people white people who were doing some drugs they want that was a kind of audience we had we were a bad boy movie so the movie we didn't do as well as I do because it cost a lot of money went three months over budget it was a very tedious shoot I was there the whole time but I'm the film garnered a reputation and made money for the big money from us to come this iconic drug war movie mean it's it's the movie for gangsters dresbold yet in fact Wherever I Go it's it's the movie for gangsters in fact wherever I go on in the world I mean I pretty much people that you wrote Scarface you know I can I got into Salvador I got into the fascist party

I came back alienated and numb I didn't come back as a protester but confused how did you feel about that he would like father how much quite a bit stronger black talk to him did you feel like you had to do it because like you you knew what kind of an impact it would have on them then opens all hours fighting with him know we were fighting about the war if I knew about everything I just didn't like his ideas and wanted to destroy his mindset for the next War his father was wiped out in the in 29 and get his first job as a floorwalker you can have anything so you work this way up on Wall Street and very hard hard worker research in the back offices so when the war with the second world war was the highlight of his life and what are we going to do with all these men and they thought we're going back into that show it was just militarized economy that we had and they kept going basically kept going and built up by 19 tended in 45 with by 1950-51 we're back in Korea where we were building up again so the whole concept of an enemy was important to the American economy and of course fit the bill although they were our allies in World War II they became our our biggest enemy right away right away it was no hesitation about it it was that often the political decision you know to have Anatomy to create fear and to keep the militarized economy that we have and it got Eisenhower talked about it he was built up the most but we're getting ahead of ourselves are schools they were North State Department I mean he wasn't Joe McCarthy but still there's a lot of that mentality Nixon was like that Hoover was pushing it I grew up terrified I have an American Tire was made out of American flag right and the restaurant owner who kicked me out because disrespectful still 70s on the older people were were offended by that yeah let's say it's interesting how that shifted right now the more American flag the better on everything socks underwear whatever you want to think is respect

so when we would sit there and it was right before he got Saturday Night Live It was one year before he got that and before I I've been in a Richard Pryor movie that was the first thing of consequence and then critical condition it was after the fires at 8 did Jo Jo Dancer and and critical condition was directed by Michael apted a great director who did Coal Miner's Daughter made a lot of important people through their lives from London and filed them every seven years to the documentary about them is just a real special brilliant lovely man who is head of the academy for a while but but but work with pride we were you know when you're doing a movie we were in a shower stall in an old hospital and it supposed to be Rikers Island or whatever the hell that prison is up there is a visit Rikers which one in New York what what's the text cops really cool cool weird eclectic group and it's like subdued floating in space man and we became friends and we would go to dinner I was the guy I'm I'm always wanted to make things better somehow I was raised that way by my dad and my mom to try to make peace for people that's the thing and and he liked that I would invite him because people didn't invite him to s*** cuz he was unapproachable some people so we we go to dinner and we would laugh and I would make him laugh we had to do one scene 40 takes because one shot that was a long Steadicam shot we had a dead body and it was covered in water and I was supposed to say something like other guy was in the drink we found it but it was such a fake looking body and every time I said this serious line of this young Doctor Richard just cracked out until he's looking in my face and there's no bigger on Earth 2627 and he couldn't the fact that he couldn't look in my face and quit kept laughing so I'm sitting in the shower with him and graphic he shows me scrubbing brush on one side soft and it says just bristles and he says I don't think he'd mind me telling you this guy always think about when you talk about someone that you love that's deceased would they be okay with what you're saying so it's not TMZ garbage so he would take the the hard scrubbing part and he said this is what this is what they took my skin off with after the fire they had to scrub my whole body but this s*** and I'm just sat there and I remember crying I think it was a combined empathy and then I told him both like a sister that died and then he was telling me that we just get close with people and then one night I didn't invite him to dinner cuz he had a hard day and he was mad at me the next day and I was like oh my God so he was enjoying so I sent but he but he was he was in a rough place he was complicated human but I remember say tooth cuz when you're acting you just I don't know I was green I said so you're upset with me I'm so sorry this means we're friends right cuz I have set you right and then we went to dinner again

3rd dimensional plane we can see the planets the galaxies the sun's hundreds of billions of galaxies photographs universes we live in an amazing space time continuum and we are on this planet and Einstein physics shot at Max places cuz it shut off is at least 12 dimensions and now that's why bleeding in to this universe that's what they called Dark Matter so we're like a thought or a dream that's a wisp and some computer program some God's mind whatever they're proving all it's all coming out on this planet the third dimension which is a Launchpad all the other dimensions transmission Zone below the third dimension this just turned over the most horrible things what it resonates to and its trying to get up into the third dimension that's just a basic level Consciousness to launch into the next levels and our species already way up in the fifth sixth Dimension Consciousness leave our best people but there's this big war trying to like basically destroy Humanity because Humanity has Free Will and there's a decision to which level we want to go to we have free will so evils allowed to come and content and not just good people who are psychically genetically available to interface in this incredibly diverse Universe with all these Dimensions above and below and all around us with consciousnesses and the truth is no energy that were destroyed all continues on the truth is our bodies is a fact or a communal Hive organism of all of our ancestors and all of their race memories but not in just some compressed epigenetics it's beyond that it's an electrochemical antenna they proved in this that connects the higher and lower Dimensions show our bodysuit start cuz our our our our predecessors would put us in position without giving us a bodysuit to this them our families are loving us they're holding us they're wrapped all around us their strength or will there bad they're good their sins the good things they did the battles they won the battles they lost the woman they love the man they love it's all in all these people are able to look into thanks have so many different experiences the elite are all about Transcendence and living forever and the secrets of the universe and I want to know all this summer good summer bad Summer Mix had to all the shaman all the ancient religions everybody says there are the good ones that are the bad ones but the good ones don't ever want to organize the bad was in organized they lost her power and the end people are interfacing so you say where does it begin from the Tibetans to the mesoamericans the Egyptians to the Druid to every Society describes the same thing there are bad things that look like elves that have horns when they show you who they really are and there are good things but they don't contact you unless you contact him and then they said they're almost not even concerned with what you're doing powerful consciousnesses don't want other people they want to get together until things are really late in the game then they come together evil always defeated ships don't arrive from Alpha Centauri or DD Prime for wherever they're coming from Beetlejuice they come here to interdimensional Gates are much closer to fold space and so we have to discuss the different influences their own universe and on fact that we have free will and we decide we want I don't believe in any of this I'm simply telling you what the elites believe going to think about what I hear when I was a kid what did I see what was coming out there in the documents what was being admitted when I read all these books about World War II in the Nazis and Hitler obsessed with the dolly llama and it's at mattinson what they were able to do without drugs to interface with this and all the rituals they would do and how they were believed that be on the Aether I get skull and bones is a German death toll to take drugs to talk to the goddesses were there just appearing as real sexy beautiful women whatever you want is the spirit guys could lower entities will come in and violate your free will God and His angels Witcher below him will not get involved in your everyday life they will not manipulate your free will unless you ask them in to the devil masquerades as an angel of Light themselves believe they're racing will using human technology to try to take our best mind and build some type of breakaway civilization where they're going to merge with machines send and break away from the field species of his man which is kind of like a false transmission because they're thinking what they are is ugly in bad projecting it onto themselves instead of believing know it's a human test about building on top and God will send out a transmission for a larger plan but evils willing to come in or does it State demoralize get rid of children don't have kids humans are bad will be will be better once you're all done and it's because set up 18 19 years ago this was that they wanted to build a giant artificial system and Google believes the first artificial intelligence will be a super computer based on the neuron activities of the hivemind of humanity with billions of people wired into it with the internet of saying and to all of our thoughts go into it in real time Planet creatures so that they will have current prediction Powers future prediction Powers a true Crystal Ball but the big secret is once you have a crystal ball and know the future you can add stimuli beforehand to make decisions that control the future and so then it's the end of Consciousness and Free Will for individuals as we know and a true 2.0 in a very bad way I have my Consciousness with an AI turn on some PKD wirehead system where we plug in to give up on Consciousness because of the limited pleasure because we were already wired and absorbed before we knew it by giving over our Consciousness to the system our daily decisions that it was able to manipulate and control into a larger system but like the Bible tells you any pharmacy or any of that always leads to destruction cuz only evil is going to come through that way so we're basically have these light socket the evil so you can jack into evil you can't jack into good right away it was quicker it's easier like Yoda says about Darth Vader quicker easier more seductive or made the image of our creator our brain is able to tune into the lowest I mention the highest Dimension humans are basically really powerful creatures that can live right close to Sons they're highly radioactive nothing else that very short lives because we're like a hive organism that actually lives and we transmit our data up to have a live next to likely Stargate jump Gates that are their sons so because we live so close to these Sons we only have like milliseconds to be alive so we're actually a hive organism to the next species in are in are in a hierarchical system and it down below it so we're alive right now in this Continuum and we're trying to progress and and and make things better and any leads or try sure that we don't doubt Linda. Incredible knowledge we've got as a species and basically dies and species so we're not competitors on the next level at the Bible says of their dimensional plane and its own you study at the globalist go to these events and they take bigger and bigger doses of drugs that you electroshock they were they were a people turn their heart off to like try to communicate with you staying to try to be dominant and get that so you go back thousands of years but Merlin is the archetypal or or or these magicians or these these Wizards are taking drugs in these temples and interfacing with these palantir these crystal balls with chocolate crystal balls their psychic Focus putting into glass to then be able to see the future and understand what's happening to give them temporal power over this planet this is an interdimensional force that wants to influence us to build something that absorbs us and kills us rather than the Divine free-will were given to build something much better than powers of the species to the species is not making a decision where you can

how often do you come across people that will fight you tooth and nail to the death to hold on to those preconceived simple one I came across was even involved with this carpet stuff was trying to talk to people about how the the Matt in the mainstream media has had bad narratives from the get you know they were given bad information but they f****** double down on it all the time or if it's a who and they're running interference for China whatever right there around something that is not that is it's not subjective viruses are subjective that you just can't play this game with that kind of thing and people would fight me tooth and f****** nail to defend the mainstream media over it and I go look here's example 12345 look at other all f****** wrong their f***** up they're doing this to politicizing they're doing all these different things for different reasons but none of it is really for your own betterment of understand and to be safer and healthier and or even just to say we still don't know yet cuz we just don't have the data and people fight tooth-and-nail over the ship because there's so many people that use the current meteor apparatus as they're mainstream sense-making apparatus and if you tear that away from them now they have to sit back and go what do I really know for what what is the reality of what I think truth is what is what is the metric upon understanding now that you've just showed me that and of course even at its best course media is going to be faulty at times because just made up of people are always going to be in perfect was going to make mistakes but there is no admitting of mistakes anymore there's no saying I was wrong we were wrong no problem with mainstream media into the same problem that we have with the police you're giving people an inordinate amount of power and when you give people that amount of power they don't want ever let it go and they don't ever want to say the wrong and then don't ever want to admit fault and they don't ever want to open the door to nuanced correct and that's what you see with whether it's CNN or Fox News or any of these m************ they have this idea that they've been selling you whether it's this idea about Russia with her CID about covid-19 PID about Trump was the idea about Biden I mean they're selling you some s*** and it's it's very very difficult to get an unbiased perspective on the world they came after you there are no reason all this kind of completely disingenuous around a person who brings people on has conversations and tries to tries to flourish that idea of the marketplace of ideas like having conversations and trying to earnestly clearly explore things I got to tell you the stories I went to Peru to research this book because I wanted to talk with like as close as I could get two free agricultural hunter-gatherers right now I can't get it to close but they're there are people called the matzo ganga that much again in the rainforest that I got to talk to you and I got to ask them about you know their relationship with technology and all that stuff I'm never going to forget I go up to this this guy and I asked him solar lights installed like in the main sort of area of their Village how do you feel about having these artificial lights installed and and and I'm thinking myself you know what this pollution right isn't it better to have the stars in the sky in the moon and he looks at me and he goes he goes this is good we can see at night videos like that they had it you know they had a better pump like running water installed face clean water right so you can wash your dishes and and your clothes and I'm thinking oh my God this is ripping them away from the natural way of life passes Lami how do you feel about the water and she's like if we don't we don't get bacteria anymore from the water coming from this place where every wants to get closer to Nature right because we have been alienated from it and I'm asking from the perspective of someone who thinks it just must be paradise living So Close To Nature and she's like close to Nature very very wise man he's got a cellphone also right and I'm like well so technology band he's like yes yes yes or no is on Tinder you can use to divide up the world into good and bad and now people now that organized religion sort of the sphere of authority shrinking right you don't go to your priest to find out what to eat you don't go to your priest to find out how to cure your disease now that that Authority is shrinking I think people are looking to other similar kinds of authority until they like a priest but if I'm walking through the store what sort of criteria can I use to divide the world up easily into of Good and Evil clean and unclean just lie at his feet and make hers wasn't say as he makes are his Wednesday there was the first time anybody had an official County Bond like that I don't know. I hope I don't love that how I love you look in that b**** in front of everybody look she's pouring tea on her head what is that a lot of people lying down today cleaning take that hat off Snapchat messed up let's go have some day I did enjoy Tyler and I enjoyed it a lot is a good time yeah I went back last year did you the same thing shots taken in 2016 by a passerby who recognized the king wait a minute so cycle will she she has to wear the crazy hat just it's so that's just how he likes to rock it he likes tank tops that shows belly button that's cool it's cultural stuff going on there and I kept getting pneumonia isurf allowed it at Ocean Beach and I thought that was the reason so I kept getting bronchitis pneumonia a year after year that just kept happening so a doctor friend of mine suggested a breathing class might help I didn't know much about this but went down signed up and was sitting in the corner of this studio cold room legs crossed breathing in this rhythmic pattern nothing crazy just and then we low and I sweated through my t-shirt to my socks my hair was sopping wet sweat all over my face so I went back to her and I said what happened like your doctor you should know this and she said oh you must have had a fever or the room must have been too hot so she had no idea but I didn't know what to do with that story so I just kind of filed it away forgot about it for a number of years until I met some freedivers either people who have through the power of enabled themselves to hold their breath for 6 7 8 minutes at a time and dive to depths far below with any scientists thought possible so I thought wow there's something in breathing here that I don't know about and I figured other people might not know about as well that's that's really interesting you know a bunch of free divers and I've known a bunch of people that got really in the Oogum primarily because of Hixon Gracie Hixon Gracie do you know yeah I know you're famous probably the most famous of the of the like the classic Jiu-Jitsu people he's known as being the very best he was like one of the original real pioneers of Jiu-Jitsu in America as well and there's a documentary on him called choke if you seen it I have not know it's really fascinating documentary he's doing all this crazy stomach breath stuff that yoga stuff no cuz he's or he's really into yoga swellpro flexibility and how tall was different things and he was probably the first guy to introduce yoga to Jiu-Jitsu as well but him and his son who's also world champion in Jiu-Jitsu just stressed constantly that it's all about the breath and that breathing is it's everything but it's everything for jiu jitsu it's everything from martial arts everything for your mindset going to find out in the foundation of so many different sports I think a lot of that has been forgotten coaches in the 50s used to have their Runners take a big mouthful of water run around the track and then I'd have to spit out that same amount of water into a cup to force them to breathe through their nose to force them to move their diaphragm up and down a little more because breathing is so essential to the recovery their endurance and their performance to have their Runners take a big mouthful of water run around the track and then I'd have to spit out that same amount of water into a cup to force them to breathe through their nose to force them to move their diaphragm up and down a little more because breathing is so essential to the recovery through endurance and their performance

people don't remember Bill Gates the old Bill Gate right people see Bill Gates now I see Bill Gates now and I see a guy was wearing an outfit outfit looks like he's got a Spider-Man Spider-Man this is my really nice rich guy walk into a room it recognizes like how you like the temperature like you're a band he called this though he called that we weren't ready to pandemic like years ago steam 2015 is businessman take-no-prisoners he's but he's pretending like he's you know when people on stage 15 years old look at that cruel like the Forrest Gump of a lot of money teaching about life brawny guy and his three chicks if you were a guy if you felt like the brawny guy but let's assume most Lumberjacks are probably big strong men 3 you got to have for the Grand Slam yesterday Jack the lumber of one full man this is going to take three three of them being on a team it looks in that picture he looks like a guy who's about this pig Lumberjack clothes that's what a lumberjack Lumberjack shirt is stolen valor put on the paper today you're right that one lady with their sleeves rolled up are you about to go to work is the is what they're trying to convey we need to be more respectful about what the f*** it means to be a lumberjack I would think you would you would think that would be romantic until you did that job 8 hours a day 5 days a week and your f****** body is broken down cuz you're carrying logs in your shoulder and s*** need shopping at trees oh my God was your father Lumberjack cuz I was very 10 she's a coal miner West Virginia getting black lung you can't cuz she's not I'm thrilled by the fact that this whole system gets thrown into a f****** just a blender and spun around and no one knows what's going to get spit out and a lot of these people they're getting you getting really clearly reveal their frauds these people that are in positions of leadership bizarre human being that don't even live in reality I was watching Nancy Pelosi her way out of saying that in February she was telling people to go to Chinatown hang out have a good time to worry about it like like what you are doing the same thing you're accusing the president of doing your choosing Trump of not warning people you didn't want anybody either you everyone's playing gotcha with this nobody saw what the f*** was coming like I said the f****** World Health Organization in a tweet with saying it can't be transmitted from person to person but no one knew Valdese people getting revealed that I like I enjoy because I have above all the people that lived before us is if we have more access to information we see the flaws better we see the flaws better right before we were lied to and bullshitted and I could see it better doesn't mean those flaws are those people going to have to be going to have to be authentic authentic right now like when you see someone the record will show that I was there in Chinatown to tell people to not be racist the record will show you can't do that anymore we demand you be authentic and if you made a mistake like that like in February look mad if you were hanging out with me and February we are barbecuing probably the flu people going to get sick going to die but I'm not a f****** expert okay I'm not a politician and if I said that I'd be like man was I wrong thought that I wouldn't say a show the reason why I said that is I want you to not be racist to Chinese people if you believe that like this is like intricate plot to that Nancy Pelosi had to search stop racism against Chinese people like the Secretary of Health in New York City who was it that was telling people to go out take the subway I forget who it was but there was this lady leshurr call Frank nobody know the World Health Organization telling people that can't be transmitted from person to person at one point in time no one knew it's a new thing you know where mistakes made of course they're made oops oops into the hole pandemic this is a conspiracy theory not real the whole pandemic was a plan to get people to go inside store up food get them off the roads and like wait for this whatever this event is the past and as soon as the event passes you'll you'll find that it's it's all the sudden it's like what do you know the the curves are all dropping off what do you know and then we'll all be back because the thing they were worried about also could be a test for it for that so that try to stop you physically so dumb it's hard to believe there's a real virus image it nice to meet you like Dunkin do you think there isn't a Cove advisors like you think there's no virus out there do you think that like maybe like so all the scientist that is like identify covet are all part of this thing to keep us from the meteor thing and then I'm like yeah you're thank you but I'll answer your question covid death count 50000 today this morning 50,000 here's something that I found out that's kind of odd if you die of something else if people are still dying right there still dying of high blood pressure stroke heart attack still killed killing more people than anything right if you die of a heart attack and you have covid-19 listed as a covet def so you can if you're going to die of a heart attack you mean to people are still dying right same amount of people other than traffic accidents which I think of the same those people are going to die still not like they live forever without the Cove it it's not what they don't get the flu as long as you don't get a cold snow but they don't get pneumonia always things exist with it with or without covet do people still dying from them but if you died of one of those things and you have covid and having a mild reaction how many people are having no reaction how many people are dying. What is that's when they did that new UCLA study that came out that showed did they think there's way more people have been I think they extinct California Loan somewhere around 400,000 people have affected the fatality rate is still pretty low but if that's the case like so what we do we just let my people die or do we do this every time the flu comes around 2 now I saw the fatality rate is still pretty low but if that's the case like so what we do we just let my people die or do we do this every time the flu comes around 2 now if we get a particularly rough flu or what is this a practice run for we're going to do every time cold come through

can you now have a successful Netflix show number 2 in the country on IMDb it on Rotten Tomatoes whatever it's so Duncan it's the most Duncan thing you've ever done yes it is it really is great I got lucky that they let me do that to you know that's to that s*** that change because that you know a subscription-based service versus like any old TV they've got a lot more creative freedom and they can think they could take bigger risks then you know coming into a look at the house it's a lot of like a hundred and fifty other people at titmouse Studios Jesse Moynihan like just these brilliant people like Mike Mayfield or like hugest and they're watching your podcast while they animate the midnight gospel you know is one of those weird that's you know that that just isn't so many odd moments like that but yeah that's not just that's whenever you see any animated thing you're looking at a squadron of brilliant eccentric artists or Asian slaves you know there's people that live in bunks if you you've seen those those set up so they have for some of the cellphone factories are they have bunk bed people just live in these dorms tattooed all over the body it's going to happen for sure Sons going to do their whole back with that DJ I know man I know if you if you do get that done shout me out on the Instagram and I'll find it doesn't that someone is getting that for sure yeah I I I mean it's it's the art these P these are the folks who worked on this man we're talkin like these are like that's the fanart already some of the fan art is just amazing and Clancy and all these different ways it's so cool man giant back tattoo of Clancy I mean like doing animation and you know I'll never be able to look even if it if it if an animated series I don't like are the plots with him or whatever I'll never be able to be like whatever man when you realize how much and how many people going to have to do just one frame how much time goes into just a millisecond and how many people are sitting in these rooms that are lit 50cc all the colors having like real deep conversations and debates over like you know what color they should make a pizza cutter in the show I like how like what should the shade of gray be for this one specific area so much stock has ended at Knotts part of making one of these things it's it's called the dailies where you'll sit and you'll watch tiny tiny little bits of the show and why do you have to every single frame you have to look continuity problems in like you got a catch all these little things that I know I'm not an animator obviously so I'll be sitting there in like Pendleton or Mike Mayfield would be like can you go back to frames it looks to me like there's a he said there's some kind of warble on the 28th Chinese thing to talk and you have to cuz otherwise you know once it's up there it's up there I know it's my it's my it's a little magic it's like 10 Mile Studios you did that is like you know I would go in there so stoned and I would just start getting that feeling like this is a temple I don't think this is even if you could call this a studio as much as it's a temple I mean why wouldn't you call it a temple and then you see all these people you know focusing their life energy on essentially bring anything to lifelike Clancy little I've now that's a living being in some in this universe who lives you know in that Medium of Animation that's a good way to put it right yeah it almost seems like that right that's why people get so upset if you change your character's Behavior like what are you doing it would make Clancy seem like to mean cuz he's not mean you don't like the moment a character seems like that and don't like it loses all likability people like what the f*** you know who lives you he's not mean there's something about what they captured again don't give me the woman's had no vagina gives there's something about one of the first couple images that you pulled up they they look like you yeah man I don't mean they look like you I mean like yeah Duncan starts that's a Duncan thought yeah I mean like he looks like a fake guy that you would create like it's kind of perfectly fits another the magical aspects of Animation which is I don't know how they do that like the spoiler spoiler if you haven't seen it put your fingers in your ears spoiler I'm sorry if there's a spoiler the last app was not too much was Ford the last episode is the podcast with my mom when she's about three three weeks away from passing on and you know they never met my mom but they did the exact same thing with her so suddenly I'm watching you know her like and not her like I'm looking at a video of her but looking at her like her like they got her spirit in there somehow and that was one that. Is it just a testament to the meat to the medium of Animation cuz that's that's one of the things you can do you know what can grab a spirit and hold it inside the art and like that spirit is alive somehow affecting the things that comes in contact with at least through a one-way Dimension right like the things it says hit people the animation seems like it's a living thing I know it's not to doing that that we maybe don't know cuz we're not I mean I got used to draw a little but I'm not really good and I'm like a really good artist there's something that they can do where they just can kind of capture you in like a little symbol like a little thing a little character the app but they capture you in there somehow beautiful to destroy their just Pendleton is his art you know in like then I would see how you like that maybe I'll try to draw a little Pendleton and then it's like what the fuc had I can't do it cuz it's so simple icon one level it looks so what's so powerful about it is how simple it is very similar to stand up the Way Pendleton is treating working on the show it is one of the cool things about him it's like his ability to cut the fat and get right to it like simple that's where the power is when you're drawing something or telling a story or whatever the more complexity that gets added to it not to say the show doesn't have like chaos and wild psychedelic stuff but any decision we made ended up like a creatively in anything like what is what is the artery that is running through this and I'm trying to express and then getting as close to that as you can and then get out there without put cuz otherwise you eat the whole thing gets blurred by although I guess you could say like extra bells and whistles you might want to attach to it you know that's when you taught me to stand up man like you just like cut just trim the fat trim the fat 2 minutes be great though that's the thing you just have to understand that you you're growing attached to a note the writers expression kill your babies yeah it's very difficult to tell your baby's when you create something it's for you can get attached to it a lot of bits I left on the table left on the cutting-room floor was like it has to be chopped up it just too wordy I'm too verbose it's to this is to that as too long why do I think so much about this why I am not showing a real reason why I'm so connected to this so chop chop chop chop chop chop is hard and almost always works better in Trapped In The Narrative of the store your caption is the very different thing it's equally entertaining it's play funny like when it gets to the punchline but there's a difference between dad and say like Burr right birds hitting you with f****** punchline of this f****** guy with a thing and another guy that like your friends drawing like you would hear Burr talk and you go why can talk to seems like he's just talking the app you do realize this is like and a masterpiece of of syllables and pauses in the right amount of outrage and segueing it in and me with this at the end and all these things that have put it together that make a great Bill Burr bit so I can if you don't know it's hard to draw when he's drawn yeah it's hard it seems like it's simple lines but could go to that picture again like the Everything Is Beautiful about it like look at the perspective it's like the kids perfectly sandwiched in the front is the dog in the Triangle in the world that's like that just sits simple in the said it's not just not like it looks like a real person look at drawing sometimes like as the realistic ones of the really good ones like cameras now keep it he said you have to take that character and put it in a completely different drawing that is that character and still maintain the body language that you're maintaining and that character to produce continuity that's one of the challenges of the show is like and also the conversations you end up having just to come up with like you know his hat or is what you going to wear like for example dislike people who have Adventure Time is one of the things you things you know people are probably going to want to cosplay Clancy at Comic-Con and stuff and and he doesn't have any carry anything he does not Pockets so people or cause playing in they're not going to have anywhere they can put their stuff so we should let's give him like a bag how can I have anywhere they can put their stuff so we should let's give him like a bag.

you coming back from another crazy trip right I am indeed what is that nonsense that you did on a kayak crossing right about time I saw you last year I got a funny phone call actually of all things people ask me you know what's the next expedition going to be what you going to do and I said you know I just bought 54 days by myself across Antarctica give me give me a minute give me a minute to relax and I got a phone call College connect me to this this guy is Icelandic I've never met him before his name Sufjan Paul don't know what store I do now is an absolute Legend and he says hey man you were just in Antarctica right and I was like yeah he's like I think we should go back to Antarctica alright well were you thinking he's like in a rowboat I think we should rub a boat from the southern tip of South America to the peninsula of Antarctica across Drake Passage how far is that about 700 miles and I said please delete my stomach 700 miles rowing a boat Drake Passage is known to be one of the most treacherous if not the most treacherous kind of passageway in the world you know you've gotten your the Atlantic and the Pacific in the Southern Ocean kind of all conversion between an artic peninsula in the southern tip of South America so you got 40 foot swells you got no crazy ways icebergs to get close to Antarctica and the the mission of the goal was to see if we could that's it I'm all the way down to the main the main put inside there been artifact ultimately it took us just less than two weeks to do the entire row but it was a long journey in the planning from that phone call the way through to that year but it was it was a two-week her 1212 day Crossing so in the two weeks you had to have two weeks worth of food two weeks worth of drinking water boat yes oh well water actually we have a desalinator so off turn off of solar panels everything seems so there's no engine no se or nothing like that is complete human-powered rowing have a portable desalination how big is it fits inside one of the boats tiny the boats like 20 25 ft long 3 Guys running time for six of us total in the team ultimately barely anywhere to sleep in this tiny little compartments like the size of like you know sleeping in the back of a you know hatchback of a Toyota Honda Civic or so bright that but that's basically kind of in one essential components was probably like I don't know maybe 2ft by 2ft square something like that and he doesn't doesn't make a lot of real fast you make 10 liters of water in like you know an hour or two depending on this house monkhouse of phone is good but it does it taste like whale dicks 33 Fahrenheit me practically Frozen cold water and I think that was kind of starting to tweak out the system but as we got closer to cross the Pacific or the Atlantic Ocean that you don't use work the entire time, but it is one of the things that that breaks down to add extra spare parts for some we don't have to use any of that but but yeah it worked and then you have course you had to bring food for the entire time as well on on there so that was a key part of it how much food so there were six of us like I said pretty much all the compartments were full tiny little compartments hate to think so we we had freestride me also like Mountain House freeze-dried meals and weasel jetboil where can I get crazy at the waters like it's 40 40 foot wave or bouncing around in this trying to hold a jetboil to try to boil some water was pretty tough but some close calls with that but we also have you far so last time we talked about last time I was on her ideas, custom nutrition bars that were made and so that works really well for me in the Antarctica Crossing we've done all this kind of people at work unsupported Seminary supplies of food or fuel no crossing the landmass of Antarctica 54 days and so I wanted to get like the most optimized nutrition I work with this company called Standard Process was all like a whole food supplement company and they've got all these 4th doctors food scientist and that's my win their lab for a year and they did all this kind of custom blood work on my body I'm trying to figure out you know basically my exact sort of physiology and they create These Bars based on all of his research that they did that bass what he's really high calorie the most high calories that I needed to optimize space and they were kind of they were all their all plant-based and ended up and then I know there's no coconut oil nut seeds know for a different vital nutrients in a particular macronutrient blend that I needed was about 45% fat cuz I need the high fat 40% protein and then 15 tomorrow with the math on that 15% but yeah it worked really well for that and so when I was doing the real I called up Sarah pross again they've been amazing partner mind they were like really okay I'm doing this row those bars work so good last time like I just had with you I'm trying to boil water and you know all this stuff is really challenging on the rowboat the best would be to have this really kind of high optimize nutrition that we could use again for the project like this but the parameters are different you know the humidity different the temperature is different there's six of us now there's not just one of me you know optimize it for that so they kind of made out of specialty blend of the bars again they called the Collin bars like pie company better now but they're not for sale about doing that so maybe in the future but you can you can see online on their website like all the different supplements and stuff that went into its and kind of by the component parts but yeah one day we might we might make them but they've been kind of disgusting for these two product they worked really really well particular in the rowing so many work amazing in the Antarctic Crossing as well but in the rowing it was 90 minutes of rowing on 90 minutes of rowing off continuous 24 hours a day so there's work I've been to 236 of us total three people rowing three people resting and in that 90 minutes that you're off that's also when you got to eat drink sleep with your only time to rest basically in so as much time as you can kind of optimize eating and stuff meant more sleeping so they have these bars get done with a 90 minute rowing shift be able to eat in a thousand calorie bar highest you know quality nutrition in your body I mean Center process now that again it was amazing to You Know How These Bars and have it work really well for all of us to kind of optimize not just the food but also the efficiency of is asleep. f****** crazy out there like could imagine that you basically sleeping every 90 minutes for one hour or so exactly if you can get it in like when Once the swelling start cranking up here in this tiny compartment like on African Pope a picture of the boat for a visual or some of my Instagram covered or not covered like really not covered at all like so it will just covered in the tiny compartments of the rowing Parts not covered at all so when you're rolling waves are splashing up like over top of you and you're getting completely soaked like you're getting and I'll complete second time in a new tire compartment you know it's like it's like lower than the table like you'd be like kind of Crouch down like in there other robot right here so that's us so that's the floor is that where all the food is stored underneath the underneath those compartments you can see that tiny little kind of compartment on either side one smaller ones bigger than the bigger one but still see you got you know three people in the three people going in three people in the compartments anytime I think of you kind of screw up to the Top members want to just it shows like the whole boat or like what it looks like maybe they're they're so kind of a shot of it so you can see in there like the back little compartment that's where I was I was alternating with this guy fee on her mention the Icelandic guy who's the captain the boat and really experienced ocean rower and we alternate inside this little cabin and then the other four guys they alternated to people cuz that one's a little bigger in the front that's the bow cabin in the front door like you're like head-to-toe in there or your crashed into a little ball it's not it's not glamorous at all and did you know so not really not really excited to do something you do as a team and doing something in a completely gone exploring a completely different kind of Avenue of exploration the ocean something I've never done before and I had actually and I do not know these guys I like maybe like I recognize their face a little bit but I didn't wear it like good friends during like that three of them I'd never met my entire life and I had also have never rode a boat in my life ever before and so when fionn he called me up and told me about the project he's the one the most world's most renowned ocean rowers he's got me know 30 World Records or something like that complete Legend he's Road boats across every single ocean this was like the kind of last you know big ocean that he never crossed no no no never done it just like this before and so he kind of said hey I wanted this idea but the logistics are super complicated like going in order cuz all the stores like treaties that you need all the paperwork getting a boat down to South America importing it through the Panama Canal excetera I mean it's like a tough thing he been like kind of thinking about it for a year or so and he said like hey I seen you pull up some big projects together can we team up and I know you know your team is got really good at figuring out the logistics would you be interested not actually looked at Ocean rowing a couple years ago something that I was wanted to do one day so it's kind of a after I kind of got that first one calling cuz I can like dude I just got back from Antarctica I don't want to go back tomorrow but you know of course the Curiosity aside we got the best of me and I call him back up when I said hey let's do this what are you thinking and kind of drove into it from there, my my team, Raptor arms around the store like logistic and billing out the project and he is definitely the Visionary of something to eat dreamed up and it was super cool to team up with him after doing something alone curiosity inside we got the best of me and I call him back up and I said hey let's do this what are you thinking and kind of drove into it from there, my my team Panda Raptor arms around the store like logistic and billing out the project and he is definitely the Visionary of something to eat dreamed up and it was super cool to team up with him after doing something alone

what do you do next cuz I know you do one of those dudes you have to keep doing these things you've done to these things you're going to keep doing these things before that too but I think last time you were to me was stop stop my potential I like exploring different places like I'd never I guess I never wrote a boat before and it's kind of take this project on and say and I done Expeditions before I push my body and you know deep in interesting ways but one of my biggest Curiosities is certainly about the mind but you don't particularly like growth mindset can I say like I'm not a rower but in the course of a year of training I'm going to train myself up get on a team with some amazing that you know accomplished Waterman and learn the skills required to know make this Crossing and it was cool to kind of that out this year because I think that that really applies across so many things and I'm just a generally curious person and I think I'll keep pushing myself and pushing my body cuz that's one of things I love to do but I think that Curiosity throughout my life is going to be you know a lifelong path of of diving into a sort of different things and taking them I think that to me one of my biggest sadness is 1 things I like to say to people with like new people come to a certain point in at their life and they're like you know I'm I'm a lawyer or I'm good at math I'm terrible at art or like I could never do, because I'm not the funny one around like you know these limiting beliefs inside of us it's like I could be like dude I've never rode ever in my life up there are 34 years old you know I never wrote about but actually but like doesn't mean I can't learn now to rub a bow but I just coaches names Mike mccastle and he's just a legendary guy he's you know done 5800 pull ups in 24 hours he's pulled a truck across Death Valley night and he said like what do you think how can you train me up and he came up with such cool training methodologies for that like he had one things yummy doing for Antarctica was he had me you know I was doing planks my hands in ice buckets and you know if my heart rate is getting jacked up beside me hold that and all the sudden he's like all right get out and I doing a wall sit but now my feet are in the ice buckets and he puts a weight plate and top of my legs and he's like okay and then he hands me Legos and he's like solve these Lego problems until you don't solve this Lego build a little like you know aircraft will Lego man or whatever your you can't get your feet out the ice bucket like what the hell is going on but he's like look you're going to be in Antarctica your life is going to depend on you we're coming down the Rope properly or this Natty or thing you're going to be cold your hands are going to be frozen you're going to be tired but you're gonna need your mind your dexterity to be there yeah there's that there's a picture of that of of Mike bringing me through that and so with the row it was super cool to come to him again and say like hey man like there's no blueprint for this like there's no blueprint for that there's no one that's human-powered Crossing Drake Passage before like there's some ocean rowers but this is different like how should we are for this a Mike it's not like he's like what I know everything about ocean rowing but that same curiosity that same growth mindset I trust his you know survivability to train me like I don't know man like let's start thinking through this and so in the gym I mean we did all sorts of crazy things you brought the ice back he started putting a rowing machine on bosu balls like half bosu balls basically and I start rowing you know different normal running motion but he starts shaking it around because basically the ocean is going to be moving me around so much or just the rolling motion is it going to prepare me for the lateral movement to know level at the obliques you know the all the kind of side to side stability stuff then he took it one step further which is he actually shows up at my house knocks on my door at 2 in the morning thank you. Sit with my wife knocks on the door he's like get up and I might what was happening he's like we're going for training right now and he gets me he's got those bosu balls but now it's the middle of the night so I'm sleep deprived on ice water on me and we're doing these lap yet here I am you know getting into this the yeah you can check this out the Discovery Channel did bike distances training for the Drake The Impossible Rowe episode 3 you can find it online Jamie's on the Discovery Channel YouTube page playlist Rose disease a rowing machine with use the rowing machine on the boat about that's like in the gym also a lot of deadlift was really useful in a lot of Civility stuff so Mike would have me do certain things like we'd have you know like a seated row or something like that or more thongs I thought that was the most interesting cuz I was going to be disabled to the waves are usually come in from they change direction but any given time they're coming feeling from One Direction so you either leaning and really hard your left side of your being and really hard to your right side that's a difference of the ocean rowing and just like a pure River rowing and you know he would have me basically like holding imagine like a like a like a deadlift bar and then I'd have my eyes closed I'll be holding it there and kind of in an isometric motion and then he would pull the plate a light playoff one of the sides and so I have to stabilize and catch you know what my left side on my right side so a lot of stabilization and balance stuff and then the other piece that was huge you know Mike and admittedly doesn't know a lot about rowing specifically in terms of the technique of rolling in the technique of is actually very specific and so a friend of mine a guy named Chris Ward from Portland I called him up and he's like this Champion Roller Collegiate rower rowing coach and he took me out on the Willamette River in Portland in a single man like rowing scull so very different than ocean rowboat Aldean all the ocean with a lot bigger different different ways but he taught me on the river the actual purity of the rowing motions of love it training in the physical aspects of getting stronger was with Mike and the mindset in the ice and all the things we did their butts stuff that we did on the road on the River Inn in Willamette with Chris was was huge me to actually understand emotion cuz I just like you and you're like how hard can it be to the blades and out of the water back in and gliding all that kind of stuff so there's a lot there's a lot to the motion and so it was a short. Of time I didn't take my first stroke in a rowboat until July and in the in the in the river and then August in the ocean robot when we came together as a team for the first time to train in Scotland and then I was running across the Drake and December so it was a pretty short. Of time to can I learn about rowing and get stronger but it was a fun process to dive into something completely new about until July and in the in the in the river and then August in the ocean robot when we came together as a team for the first time to train in Scotland and then I was running across the Drake and December so it was a pretty short. Of time to can I learn about rowing and get stronger but it was a fun process to dive into something completely new

Yeah Yeahs play I believe in there's other other life-forms out there they might well why not think it just because he hears one thing I do believe most people are full of s*** to come still like most of their stories like it's it's hard to find a person that could just tell you what happened based on what they really remember people wanted Jazz things up and then one at Salt and Pepper they just sex with me to test it that they don't necessarily tell you the truth to tell you what they think is going to be in engaging story that kind of represents the truth maybe especially when it's a weird thing like you saw something in the sky what did you really see how long did you look at it for how many seconds was it here's the problem I have with UFOs and I believe there are UFOs but I don't think they're coming here first of all if they're coming here that means their technology is far way more advanced than ours why would they care if people saw them they would show up if I was an alien and I was that far ahead of us I would lay in that b**** right in the middle of Times Square and be like what we are here why would you do that but why wouldn't I why am I getting in fields where nobody can see us you aware of how we treat uncontacted tribes yes still point but what I'm saying is if you're that far Advanced they know if they're coming here they know they're there way smarter than us right because they traveled here and we don't even know other from Far distances we can't even imagine and they're here they don't have to hide it just like they do it because they have to hide or do you think maybe they do it because we can't handle it because we can't handle it why would they care if we could handle it or not because here's the problem whenever any civilization has ever encounter civilization far superior to them the results have always been catastrophic every single time every time Europeans have invaded North America every time the Spanish visited the Mexicans every time that this is happened it's been a disaster this is human beings if there was something that came down here from another planet was so unbelievably sophisticated that I can travel through vast distances in space and had insurmountable Simple Technology we would look to it for Oliver answers it would become our new daddy it would completely disrupt all of our governments would disrupt all of our religion so we just wrapped every single belief system we have and people would fall apart they wouldn't know what to do psychologically it would be devastating look I'm not. But I know most people would not be able to handle it I understand that but why would they care cultural care care care about animal has a reason we have Wildlife protection agencies we have that because we care about animals and animals don't even know where thing if you're a deer live in the forest and you're two years old you might not have ever even seen a person even know what the f*** we are but we're trying to keep those beer alive we spend billions of dollars every year protecting them we do that because we care about Wildlife if we cared about a rare monkey that we found in Indonesia and it wasn't strange we would do whatever we could to make sure that monkeys populations thrived if there's a way to help them and that's one of the reasons why zoos exist they take rare animals they try to breed them in captivity and but we're also sharing the same Earth what would they maybe they look at the universe that way and nuclear civilizations like our civilization mean our civilizations of very dangerous one because we're a bunch of semi hairless monkeys with nuclear weapons I mean we're f****** nuts bro we're obsessed with sex jack off to our phones where we're taking pills keep our dick Hardware on speed music people did do us we pretend things we pretended we didn't do things to people we lie about stealing we lie about money we lie about all kinds of things many people are so so you're thinking you're thinking aliens are thinking about all that before they come down of course they would why wouldn't because why wouldn't I guess I'm coming from a human point of view where we don't give a s*** about anything and that's not true we do give a s*** about think that's why when you go to the Galapagos Islands you're not allowed to take your shoes that you walked around Los Angeles and walk around the Galapagos Island because people have done that and they get seeds from their shoes stuck in the sand over there the ground over there and then new plants grow their invasive species there that were worried about ecosystems that would really are worried about invasive species human point of view where we don't give a s*** about anything and that's not true we do give a s*** about think that's why when you go to the Galapagos Islands you're not allowed to take your shoes that you walked around Los Angeles and walk around the Galapagos Island because people have done that and then getting seeds from their shoes stuck in the sand over there the ground over there and then new plants grow their invasive species there they were worried about ecosystems that we really are at the time this will worried about invasive species

see a story like the Jeffrey Epstein story which is playing out right now right way to talk to my son that is one of the craziest f****** stories of our time because it's a conspiracy theorist wet dream and no one no one would have ever believed is an island or a guy brings prominent scientist celebrities and politicians to f*** underage girls they film the mall and use it to somehow or another black male or apparently according to Glenn Maxwell there's tapes you know what I mean there's so much to the store that sells grow something murder from outside when is suicide watch the film doesn't work that the surveillance cameras don't work and Michael bad and the forensic scientist reviews the autopsy news like this man was strangled look at the the break in the bone of the neck that's consistent with strangulation look at the position in which he was choked like which which part of the neck that's not consistent with hanging all the factors point to the fact that the guy was killed and then the fact that I mean the guys on suicide watch and how is it possible Witnesses in case against a gigantic number of very powerful people just wanted some committing suicide whoops no worries sorry it's a mess it's a mess but that's one that I would think would Intrigue you I mean if at the end of all this when the pieces all fall into place is that something you would think about covering for a film if I had to write it I had to get very interested in the subject matter it seems lead anywhere doesn't make sense I mean the world is in a much more important places World sense of world peace and this is the most important issue of peace in our time and we are building up nuclear weapons in credit incredible right under this guy Trump and it's a huge it's a return to the worst of the Cold War and that scares me that's an issue I would like to I think if I were to get involved again in another movie that one about the accumulation of arms of the building of ports in the in the The Madness of of our leaders Democrat and Republican on our perceived enemies China Russia and North Korea Iran Iran and Venezuela enemies China Russia and North Korea Iran Iran and Venezuela y more peaceful place off the pedal

difficulties in making films preserver film that you wanted to make that you never could was several me lie about 2-3 weeks away from shooting it in 2007 in Thailand and some of it in Vietnam I've been the victim Eli Vietnam great story because the massacres on knowing they don't know we don't people don't know the real story it was investigated that Massacre you've heard of it right I've heard In Cold Blood in baby's mother everybody that old people shot and not one enemy bullet was fired not one and we've heard all the options stations of that the whole thing was you know it basically I miss planned operation because of basically CIA it was in the war and they were torturing to death of some no torturing some poor soul who gave him information it was faulty happens all the time right torture works right doesn't work and there's a result they operation they were told that there was NVA in that Village they were not there so the guys went in thinking they should kill did you write a screenplay fast know someone else do it excuse nobody wants to make it have you thought about trying again I did I also tried to make the Martin Luther King story years ago many years I worked on that Martin Luther King's a great story but it's a two toughest story to tell I mean I think there's a large portion of the black community that's really kind of creature likes Saint martyr where is this is more of a human man and his fault you know his failings but you know he's relationship with women is fascinating and we were into that whole aspect of it and what happened with that it just never got together never might be a good time to revisit that now yeah I I wrote a I needed someone else wrote a whole script but you know you can't be so many films get planted not made from you feel you do this like 535 abortions damn right now abortions damn that seems like a great one now and he's such a incredible an important character and boy does the world need a Martin Luther King jr. right now things are changing all the time

can you put together the Snowden movie what what was your aim like what we're trying to get out of that fell and I do is important story because surveillance I never imagined surveillance at this level I realize that it could be everything I mean beyond my imagination Beyond anybody's the control of information the user information can destabilize many regime's they went after regime-change became the new new new modus operandi for the United States was okay to change Ray James we're good at it and the way we did with it was soft power so what happened in Brazil couple years ago typical you know the whole forcing out the president. from the right but essentially Brazil was completely changed completely changed their still working at it and Venezuela. They got they got they worked in Bolivia think they got rid of the guy illegally Honduras how hard is it to put together at mean the Stoughton film is so disturbing because it's it's current right we're dealing with things that are happening right now how hard is it to put it down and make it this dramatic piece that's going to be in tell several times met with the leader of the PLO why what was that like I was more I didn't because of my connections I had more contact with these rally side I was in Ramallah so I mean I was talking to Netanyahu before he was prime minister I was talking to the leader and then I went to Ramallah which was it knocked out that knocked out the the lights and how they stay isolated we got out at the last second we were we were seeing our fun and Leah Israelis and them realize he's really could be tracking with their all their they have all this equipment you known the s*** out of us when we're in there that's what I'm scared you have to be careful when you fight them until they requested that you wear a mask when I turn off theater. you know we can bum other countries to death and call ourselves a good guys but we kill a lot of civilians around the world with our mommy. That's true that you have that you you you're not just a guy who makes movies but your guy makes movies and also a guy who's very outspoken about all of these issues in the world knows to get in the way of each other sometimes yeah there was some people that think sometimes my outspokenness overshadows my work and they might be true for the but you both ways to which is very fast I'm glad you have the courage to not stick to that I mean I think it's when someone mess we're in we don't even have the guts to to talk about stuff we shut up we censor ourselves we self sensor needs to be discussed as a podcast guest a lot of people are saying he's really stay away from that they don't understand they think he's some kind of Russian agent is crazy you know he's very very clear about it while he's it's very clear when you listen to all of the interviews with him and and then when I get a chance to talk to him myself he is who he says he is exactly a Boy Scout historical moments of our time that we recognize that this overwhelming surveillance state has his existed without us even knowing it and cyber Warfare 2 rage is the only issue of who's doing what to who you are very quick to say they're doing that to us China Russia. They're doing their steel Butler blah blah blah what are we doing what state has his existed without us even knowing it and cyber Warfare 2 rage is the only issue of who's doing what to who you are very quick to say they're doing that to us China Russia this. They're doing they're still do blah blah blah blah what are we doing

what happened what happened to Sam I sat next to metiner Booth he got on stage and he did the whole bit before he had done the young comedian show that I was on with the Rowdy did Rodney's first young comedian show and it was whole thing about you know the the kid in the age of those worldvision commercials with a starving kid and Lena's famous most famous one of the most famous things that any comedians done which was just a truism much starving kid get out of the desert that I use in a conversation with a guy who's a weird conversation through the guy wrote a book on, he was teaching a comedy course at a university and he was sitting here talking to me and he said that the best comedy always punches up because if there was a time when people really believe that nonsense like that there was a formula to Comedy and that comedy show at attack the large power boxers and that the small people should be you know elevated by, this is he sitting here telling me this nonsense about starving children there's no listen to Carlin and this guy f****** them I mean a bit where he says unplug the mic is my dick and he is having sex with his wife from behind and it goes this is what happened to my marriage and she she's like we got to fix the fence it needs a new coat of paint so we can't you can't do that now really I mean you could if you were Sam he could do it again he could do it first of all he was uniquely he was uniquely qualified for that kind of Comedy because you he was short he was fat and he was going bald and wore a beret hanging out with all the rock and roll and pouring people I mean Dallas look at that picture that's him a Bill Hicks that's crazy picture bill was the sweetest most timid guy onstage use that was part of white worked cuz I think there's a lot of people that really could do more than they're doing and they know they could they want to make excuses and it's part of the reason why throughout history they've left people behind the certain people that if you had a tribe and you had to make it over this mountain and Bob is f****** lazy and he's like you got to carry me bro my Bob we're both walking come on man Bob's not supposed to make it he's not supposed to make it we want them to make it but we don't want our kids to die we don't want her mom to starve we got to keep doing Bob you lazy f*** come on bro there's always been people like Bob and it's part of the problem with keto so I'm a country young people who don't know any better didn't have enough life experience this is understand because a guy like you who really understands economic can talk to a guy like me and we can explain it to everybody because otherwise we just have and I'm definitely not arguing with you but your argument versus people who disagree with his argument you have this but there's that there's an opportunity to make this bridge and for us to understand each other I want to help people evolve from being socialists and capitalists get this but they don't everybody in the community benefits from having a fire department. They're just for one person everybody in the community we're talking about where the government takes money specifically for one person and gives it to somebody else or their specific benefit because they think they need it for whatever Problem whatever reason they need the money I'm all in favor of people voluntarily helping out their fellow man and Americans will do that I mean we didn't do that we did that a lot more in the past when the government didn't take so much of our income and taxes we had a lot more money like I mentioned Grover Cleveland when he said that quote about the government not supporting the people there was a bill to appropriate $10,000 for some farmers in Texas who have been hit by a drought and Grover Cleveland veto the bill because she's there's nothing in the Constitution that allows the government to give money to people just because they need it you heard of this problem you knew of people that their children were going through this and how long did it take you before you decided to commit to pen-to-paper on this University Public Health who looked into that since you found that there was all of a sudden this huge epidemic in America of teenage girls deciding they were trans with their friends after social media margin and and pushing for hormones and surgeries and there would be more or there's a lot of women who would turn trans become a it would be more but they never had had that door open to them before and then maybe there's more trans people than we think amazing amazing so it's a great point and I thought about you know I tried to look I'm a journalist I like to look at ideas and both sides I didn't have like I did not have a dog in this race so let me tell you three reasons I don't think that's compelling number one when when Lisa let me look at the prevalence rate she found it it's 70 times what we would expect with in a friend group which means is highly concentrated in groups of friends but there's two other reason so we wouldn't expect that if it were randomly distributed along the population with the two other reasons I don't think that's right number one if we're just we're boarding to normal now that there's greater Society of societal acceptance right we're just say we're just a boring reverting to a normal base rate of transgender women wear while we're all the women in their forties and sixties coming out as trans they should be coming up now is there time moment we should see tons of women in their forties and 60s coming out as transgender we're not seeing that we're seeing the same population that gets involved in cutting demonic possession witchcraft anorexia bulimia and convinces themselves there's a problem and and there's one there's one last reason is that suicide rates are going up but if these women who were living under a prior-year supposedly these all these transgender these real transgender people were living under a more repressive regime are now just finding themselves I think the suicide rate would be going down with greater acceptance teens who turn trans stearate of Trance of suicide among this popular frittata among the girls in general is extraordinarily high this is just one part of the Mental Health crisis there in and second of all we know that the rate that these did these kids these trans identified kids have very high rates of suicide suicidal ideation it's it's really you know an area of real this is the other paper I want to tell you about it it does mention aliens so it's a it's it is a recalculation out of my trouble reworking of the calculations and I can't I can't read it reference document an introduction to the statistical Drake Equation so this is something that they they created for the defense department so they could get information is about all those different topics I told you about it then this one is How likely is it that we have Galactic neighbors and how close might they be the key question how far are they don't answer it's like 30 pages into that but you're the first person outside the program you know if you had Bob on and feta favorite people are talking about this in the Zeitgeist I've had more people serious people come forward to me in the last year of my life than ever before and it includes soccer moms and people that I want hugs the documentary yes ever since the Lazar documentary you know and and people found out that I kept my word to favor and didn't tell his story New York Times told that I kept all that you know people started to trust me we can keep his mouth shut if he needs two people come forward to me and drove since the Lazar movie and of course it's like soccer moms and people that just say I don't want to be known I just want somebody to hear this because my husband would think I'm crazy me to tell you what happened me and I'm out of you like and what are they telling you I mean Joe it's everything you can imagine from seeing crafts that are right there right in front of them to abduction stories which I don't get into cuz it's too crazy for me but do the report sightings in counters all UFOs. That's why they call me they don't call me for other stuff right but also very serious people people that have worked or do work within our military and say I had an encounter there was an incursion I know George. With this for 30 years so it's just it's just new for me that the the amount of people coming forward to me and telling me their stories and giving me documents and stuff like that I got to be careful cuz a lot of it's got to be bulshit this is new for me that the the amount of people coming forward to me and telling me their stories and giving me documents and stuff like that I got to be careful cuz a lot of it's got to be bulshit a good handful of it is power lot of it is you know it's like bait

you should tell Joe about how the government program ossip was created directly because George wrote this book about a little place called Skinwalker Ranch with the government was studying this property that happened because of his books mdia guys what you should tell the story of from your work it's fascinating, so we did that story and and the series in 89 one of the first people to call me after that was a guy never heard of before name Robert Bigelow billionaire calls me up and says I was really interested in that I've been interested in you for a long time can I help you meaning any help fund me I said I work for a TV station I don't need any help but he was not to be deterred he then reached out the Lazar they had a little he was started meeting with him and and pumping up for information and that really amp find of Bigelow's lifelong interest in it he created something called nibs the National Institute for Discovery Science which he made a science Advisory Board of the best and the brightest in the both of U of O field and the peel of Consciousness so they're looking at two questions is there is there life elsewhere in the universe is it here and it is a human survive after death and assemble this board former CIA guys to former astronauts who walked on the moon Edgar Mitchell doctor help put off physicist psychologist a really a brilliant little Think Tank to take on these two topics I was allowed to be a fly on the wall for some of it. All of it but some and I told Harry read about it in 1996 and he said can I go and so he showed up and set it on the meetings and he was kind of hook Harry Reid was the first person I told about Bob Lazar outside of our Newsroom before we heard the stories I've known him since he first ran for Congress in 1982 many become Senate Majority Leader so he always had an interest in it but he didn't want it to be known publicly that does not help your reelection chances so in 2005 we write the book about Skinwalker Ranch needs that team bought the ranch they were on the property for seven or eight years at that point and had hundreds of different incidents that they investigated they approached it like scientists would they look for prosaic explanations they look for Gravity enough they look for look for psychoactive plants could there be hallucinations caused by magic mushrooms or something or the witness is lying they investigated the background of the family that lived there and they found out that they could not be explained that all the range of activity there there was not only um activity because that's what got their attention the Uintah Basin in northeastern Utah has always been a UFO hotspot everybody who lives there basically has seen them balls of light orb structurecraft daylight nighttime in 1976 a guy named dr. Frank Salisbury wrote a book about it the Utah UFO display any took hundreds of these cases that have been collected by the locals there was a local science teacher named Junior Hicks who because he had taught generations of kids science in that area when they people would see UFOs they call up Junior hex and he went then go and investigate how many hundreds and hundreds of files he gave them over this guy so brake rotor book about it and he said these are real you know they're going on but Junior Hicks would disregard any High strangeness cases that came along with UFOs anything weird Bigfoot ghost anything like that he thought it was too incredible and any discarded that Bigelow buys the ranch he hears about these stories going on on this one property flies in meet with a Rancher and by this time that rancher in his family had lived on the ranch for 20 months and they were so scared he his wife and his two kids were all sleeping at night on the floor in the same room because it would mess with them so badly their property had had ghost-type activity Poltergeist kind of things trickster activity for example the wife goes shopping to the grocery store she buys it all this food comes back and puts it on the table 6 outputs in the shelves leave the room comes back in all the foods back in the bag she would take a shower in the morning locks the door put the towel and a hairbrush on the cabinet gets out of the shower door still locked hair brush detangler gone dad's out in the field he is a digging a post hole use a post hole digger happy piece of equipment he stops for a second wipes his brow looked back and it's gone and they find it two weeks later up in a tree they start hearing voices at night and in the are speaking a strange language they start seeing shapes outside the window at night big lurking humanoid shapes hearing heavy footsteps outside then hearing footsteps inside their animals started being mutilated cows the tracks will lead out in the snow and then just be gone cabs mutilated cut up with surgical Precision cats wiped out cut up carpet up dogs that were vaporized hundreds of these incidents they would see holes in the sky like a a great big hole in the sky and things flying in and out of it and this Rancher college-educated guy ground strict religious guy thinks the government is trying to run off his property to lease out there at night working with a gun trying to catch whatever government agents are doing this stuff and it's not that many to do was something else they start seeing UFOs of all shapes and sizes the first one they saw was like a they thought it was a Winnebago this Ranch is a beautiful place and it only has one way in and one way out to lights that look like headlights down in the third Homestead how did this guy get past the house hearing Mary must be stuck let's go down and help him out the light start coming toward he in the sun then they go up into the sky up over the trees and then poof gone these different kinds of orbs of the white ones that were intelligently control not fireflies. Bugs blue ones that would go they seem to touch the the fear Center in your brain that get near them they look like a little bigger than a softball made out of glass with a swirling blue liquid the hell out of the animals and then it scared the hell out of the that the people to this literally drove them to their knees with beer these red orbs that would Stampede the cattle they lost so many cattle that they began to think that they were going to go under these for prize bulls and I'm jumping around but there's a lot of the stories that these four prize Bulls 2000 pounds each behemoths very expensive animals cuz of a raising Simmental cattle in the Corral and wife that was felt like they're being watched he says to the wife as their drive into town man if something happens to one of those bulls will go under will be done they come back a half an hour later all for the Bulls are gone they jump out their freaking out where did they go did somebody steal them or they're rustlers looking around all over the place in this Chorale is a metal trailer where they used to store tools and there's only one door into it Krystal on their the guy just as a last resort he looks into the grading on top of this trailer and there's the four bolts inside door still locked they're all crammed in there now you could take a forklift you can have a team of 50 people and they couldn't get those bowls in that trailer but they're there where he yells does wife hey honey they're in here and when he says that the Bulls wake up as if out of a trance kicked the door down and all got out the needs team which it been on the prop couple years that point flying they've been in Las Vegas they fly back in they look around they check out the animals the whole Corral which is made out of metal had been magnetized so whatever technology was used to get those Bulls from the Chorale into that trailer left a magnetic signature they were there on the property at the news guys for several years Bigelow owned it for 20 years but eventually they gave up whatever this thing was this intelligence it did not like being stalked and it played tricks and they never made the stop public because what are you going to do write a paper about this who's going to print it you can't make a documentary about it cuz they weren't there with those cattle mutilations I guess that's some evidence but that's the only evidence of cows and we can meet him like cows what what about all this other stuff like for the first 20 months when the Rancher is there they don't have any evidence because he's not a Paranormal Investigator they're not taking photos or something they wanted so they don't have any evidence of that except for what the Rancher told them but then they talked to the larger community and the same thing has been happening to all the neighbors the guy lives next door had lost all these cattle as well cease the craft sometimes these craft would float around they look like stealth Fighters with Christmas lights around them floating around silently again again activity it happened before the thing moves over here you you move the pop at the cameras and focus their it goes away for the end of the study whatever it was that was there rip the one of these cameras would rip to shreds if they're up on top of a telephone pole 30 40 ft in the air and there's wires that are secured all the way down the telephone pole and they noticed that one of their cameras goes out they figure there's another camera on another pole that should have a view of whatever it was that I'm going to animal whatever or whatever it was was invisible and I know it's very frustrating it certainly was for them and for me to try to write about it in that this thing didn't want to be caught it want to do demonstrated that it was there but it didn't want to have evidence the calf that was mutilated was in I know it's it's it's a lot they're tagging newborn calves tied their ears and they tag this one right by the ranch house 50 yards from their home and then go off across the property it's a clear day is unobstructed that their dog is with him and makes a noise that pointing back for that first calf that they had tagged and the and the dog indicates that something's wrong and they see the mom cow it's in distress like a running back over there and this cap had been completely stripped of nothing left but hide and Bone and one of the femur bones been ripped out and thrown on the side while they call in the Nets guys they bring in trackers there are no tracks there's no human tracks no no vehicle tracks snow animal tracks that thing it been completely stripped of blood there's not a drop of blood on the ground it's gone 75 lb of meat gone again over time. Of 30 minutes is there a team of Commandos it comes in. and there's this is there's evidence of this so some of it is a demonstration I mean it seemed to be a demonstration to get their attention this trickster element has been reported in other places around the world there's no hotspot quite like Skinwalker and I know how weird it sounds there's no spot like that because it's never there's no spot that's been study to that extent the needs guys were there for a while big loan the property for 20 years needs was acting for 7 or 8 then another secret study funded by the government came in under an organization that was the money that we got you got 22 million dollars I went to Bigelow as a contract and they hired all these people and fanned out all over the world to try to find UFO information but other related phenomena things that wouldn't seem normally to be connected to UFOs but which are a guy from the DIA read the book and became interested and he asked for permission to go to the property this guy's a double Ph.D a brilliant rocket scientist who had seen it and thought there were National Security implications the hole in the sky in particular with things coming in and out he wondered if someone was using technology to make these they found that hole in the sky know when the Rancher is there by himself so he's not but is there any evidence of anything other than mutilated cows play something invisible they had something to do so in the video you can see the camera being torn apart can't see anything you can't be there's nothing you can't see anything you can see before it happens it's normal and afterward so I think you're how much time has been taking place between before and after I can't remember but I mean could that be hoaxed yeah if Bigelow wanted to but again they weren't there to in the beginning at least four nidz they weren't there to to try to prove that aliens are think they're just trying to figure out why all this weird stuff is happening in one spot it mixes in a lot of Native American lore that got mixed in the picture but it's been going on in that you went to Basin for 200 years why don't know our government has studied the medicine would like what is so frustrating to me to when I was introduced to the skinwalker thing through George man I am with you like what's the evidence what's going on the weight of evidence is when you talk to people in the air and they all have these commonalities some people died of exotic cancers from burns from above World lights came down and hit him and that's evidence their face is completely irradiated and they f****** died so there's a hold on for a second that's where they found it at that did they scan the area to look for another spot where could have been slaughtered before it was moved to this area as what they concluded is I've been taken somewhere and slaughtered in and brought back back out food has that little larger please can you zoom in on that cuz I doesn't look very surgical to me that looks like wolves nose just actually didn't analysis and it was done with two types of metallic tools but look at all the jagged edges call just said that two instruments have been used one was a heavy machete type instrument that has been hacked and then there is a scalpel that it surgically removed a lot of The Flash underneath killed it and then they moved it to that spot if I had to guess the way it's eating though I mean it looks like he was eating while there's no teeth marks there are metallic marks is this was happening on this ranch with owners prior to owners prior to owners I got to talk to a lot of people that so here's the deal with the connection of this to George does this thing he reports on this for for 20 years that the government is now studying this ranch right because of deployment or because of all this weird stuff why is the government spending money through all sap to study this Ranch and other things and that's where it gets really f****** interesting what happens after with our government programs that's what you know this song is before we get to that this image like that the jagged edges around the rib cage that's supposedly slice that looks like hack hacked okay Farmers to get them out of there let's save some program I mean although the cattle mutilation thing you've gave me a stack of documents this big has been studied by the FBI it was it's happening all over the country no one has ever been caught not a single person on a 10,000 case with all the same types of cuts I mean this is not my life it's really weird the lack of blood is the weirdest part of it cuz if see like what makes sense to me is that something killed that they they butchered it they Chopped all the meat off of it and then they removed the carcass from that area and dropped it up there that's what it looks like if I had a gas amidst thinks there's no way that it was killed right there because you're seeing fresh clean hay underneath it everywhere there's no blood which doesn't make any sense at all I think the question is is this the government program is this something or is this a scare tactic it's been happening since the 50s like what is that's a weird one too Country Inn was weirdness like organs removed but the weirdest part about it is it's almost always there's no blood yet I just investigated one which I never thought I would do but I got a call from a guy in Texas yet to see if isn't gas right before lockdown I go out and I got to check this out the guy calls me it's a pretty freshly one at this point I'm no expert but I went and got samples and took him to labs in this war thing to see if there were tools used so you got here is my experience that he might I'll show you after I got my phone so I got my foot great f****** photos weird under the guise of UFOs since no one would take UFOs and cattle mutilation seriously they just do it in helicopters and instead of just stealing these cattle their tracking how far this these indestructible prions travel through the food supply cuz it's in cattle and pigs it gets so fed into a chickens and things of that and feed it's in dire it's called chronic wasting disease and in some circles is not it that's a different prion disease then mad cow well it's a variation Crutchfield Jacobs disease I think too so the same kinds of things in different species it is indestructible again so you hit a deer that's got this and you grind it up and you feed it to the pigs the pigs get it and then and then it could be passed on to other species and it shows up in different ways Kelleher was exploring the idea of whether or not it it might be the cause Alzheimer's or version of mad cow in humans they're all going to you right now this to this isn't freezing it so it says downloading so I'm downloading them and then they know but it's coming through here about to go to you says waiting because this is my very limited amount of Fredro drop is open I don't see you bro bro hold on so this is this is the stuff that you physically encountered okay you physically saw this cow and I'm looking at these images right now and we're going to show them short and a second and this is you said Texas yasso everywhere in Texas that's it so I made the the the movie based on George's work of the same title for the skinwalker right and that movie was telling this story about how the United States government was studying this property land because of UFOs and weird stuff that and weird stuff included things like cattle pull up this morning there's a lot of weird images removed around the face right this is my first chance to see this for myself cuz last time I was on your show it was the ones in Oregon had just happened up at that ranch and I thought well okay if I'm ever going to do it now is the time to do it so I go I get this call not remind you this is a Rancher this is like this is their livelihood it's this huge huge area of land that there are very religious community nobody we go out to the middle of this land and in the middle there's this dead cow no blood no blood and he had seen it prior and the reason he called me is cuz in my movie you could see the special kind of sliced like a jagged slice that is not common to these types of things I think are really delicious and he is looking at it he's like that's exactly like in the movie and this is a straight shooter he's a religious guy had to act as Pastor if he could even like go on camera with me it freaks him out so he sees it and he sees dead animals all the time he saw this cow you said before accident while he was out shooting BB guns with his kid and he's on this big part of land he sees this down Bull and he goes over to it he's looking at it and it's unlike anything he has ever seen in all of his years before it had surgical cut there is no doubt somebody killed cut up this animal with those classic like the ear gone to types of tools like a scissor type but I tried to cut it is not easy to cut so they have sharp tools and then there's like a very thin slice type kind of cut so I got to take it get samples take him to labs and try to see what type of tools did this how did they do this with no blood on the ground and all the soil around it was dead so it's like a why is it all dead is that a natural thing so I took soil samples and took them to a lab and again I'm outside of my weird to me is killing these animals someone has hit something someone is killing these animals in a highly specified technical way that has been repeated since the 50s on our FBI has studied it he has shown me so many reports of these in association with discs saucers association with discs weirdly weirdly mutilated somebody killed it and he's like his this demonic is this some sort of Satan this thing I said I don't think so man this goes back in history like I'm looking at their Cuts is specifically with their very unimpressive what the hell does that doesn't look like a laser did it or not Texas land where the guy would shoot you in the face if you go and try to touch one of his cats that's the other thing no one's ever been caught never so that's what's weird weird more than two dozen times I've never seen anything the neighbors I've interviewed the scientist these are phd-level guys a lot of times they have cameras that fail I mean it's you know you've heard that story before In This Very it happens just wanted some giant disk shows up but it does happen that their car batteries would die in the same spot whatever it was messed with them and maybe it's humans maybe it is human technology but no humans were found to be doing this stuff needs was there for all those years didn't want to tell anybody about it they shared the information with me but you can't publish it there's no real physical proof so they just left it there like I had tried to do a documentary ended up I talked him into letting me write a book about it if your people if you're looking for physical evidence and solid proof and they don't have it what is the what's the primary the are there any primary theories of why they do this to cows why someone's doing this to cows you need to catch somebody laugh they don't have it what is the what's the primary the are there any primary theories of why they do this to cows white someone's doing this to cows you need to catch somebody mask

did The Tick Tock craft or Tic Tac craft craft that was spotted off San Diego it perform something spectacular terms of its ability to go from the surface of the of the water to 60,000 feet and how long is left in the second but there's actually more to it than there was a crap member I was talking about a favor before this is public there was a craft under the water to the Tic Tac would drop from 60000 feet is what they're saying 6280 but that's the scan volume up by one radar so everybody I've talked to said they were coming from above they were coming from outer space dropping down within a second and stopping on a dime and then making the movements Commander fravor song then he said to me in our first talk ever I'll never forget cuz I'm talking to a fighter pilot I got to talk fighter pilot man I don't know and he says to me it noticed me niego what do you mean it noticed you you says as I was descending rapidly to engage it it turned its nose and began to intelligently mirror my movements can write up by me and he says faster than you can see a boy like you can't even see a bullet Lipa done no it just shut off because we don't have anything like that I wish we did we whatever propels that is not a reactionary propulsion system not pushing something off the back to get it to go full like everything else you got to have something going back to go forward Rockets were still using the same one for back today this thing instantaneously without effects of inertia can move now and that Distortion that's exactly how Bob describe these things would work or do work his opinion so commander fravor got to see it now and these incursions by the way look their stuff George reports on there's a lot he doesn't as a filmmaker myself people tell me stores all the time these incursions it's not a rarity these are happening to this day I just heard about one in Guam incursions over high-security airspace over our Weapons Systems and in Guam there was just recently an incursion pantex facility with the igloos where we hold our nuclear weapons and stuff like that there are incursions over these Two Georges point that the reason why maybe all this is Secrets not cuz we can't handle it people flip out maybe we just want to make sure we can get this text first cuz it's a game-changer let's talk about the people that have try to debunk this and why they're off because they've made some debunking claims about some of these videos and about the technology that was used to track these things that's incorrect they where they don't they don't really understand what they're debunking right so please please explain that because that's one of things that people are immediately going to go to they're going to go well Midwest is already debunked it and I read the stuff that he says it's mental gymnastics to try to explain it the way he's explaining it without recognition of the fact these things were actively blocking radar these things were actively blocking tracking system these are Isabel crafts this is not like a bird never so they look a lot of the wacky theories that he has or like I wonder you know it's real weird like that a smart man can make such really bizarre conclusions very weird almost like someone wants him to do those sure I'm in look it's so exciting that it were seeing something in the government's hang okay these are UFOs we have not identified them they have propulsion techniques that we don't have we're not the videos talk about the debunking talk about the debunking and what his claims are in the debunked okay so one that I recently liked attacked that was so ridiculous as he was saying that the go fast video which is this you know object that goes along in a straight line one of the three videos that was really said it was probably a bird that was his first theory of the go fast video I recently went deep into talking with bowling experts who who work on these Fleer pathetic their tummy how they work what they can capture yea4 for looking infrared so basically on fighter planes you have a camera there's a video with mounted and it's essentially recording in thermal imagery these things are this is not Instagram these things are Weapons Systems that are highly trained to be a to accurately represent spatial awareness and to be able to Target enemy combatants that's this is not an an iPhone and Instagram these are weapons for us so out of the three videos if we've just look at this one although I like the Tic Tac one Commander fravor to like the gimbal one those are awesome this one gives us very little information but that the idea that this would be a bird if you talk to anybody that uses these pods you don't you can't pinpoint you can't lock a weapon system on a freaking bird look how fast it's going to what years was so interesting is everybody can debate speed so this is where it's locked in on it right over the weapon system is locked in on this thing is tracking it now right and it got real excited when they locked it cuz it's the set box the moving Target right so here's the deal do at anything I could say about this video cuz there's not a lot of information in there what I can say is that object you're seeing is older than the surface of the ocean. I looked up the surface of the ocean temperature at that location at that time cuz we had the information it was like 65° what propulsion systems okay so a bird a bird is about a hundred in the safe 5° like a seagull segos can go maybe 15 miles an hour I don't know how fast I can go but it wouldn't it wouldn't be colder than the ocean to be hypothermic and dead it cannot be a bird because this what we're seeing is a colder object dim the surface of the water that's why you're seeing it white and how fast is it going that's under debate there there's different interpretation yet so I'm I'll give you one interpretation about your 240 miles an hour some people say and then they can argue well at the fastest bird in a nosedive could go that fast backup we have an object that is colder than the surface of the ocean that immediately gets rid of the bird Theory because of bird would be hypothermic and paperweight into the water it cannot fly at that so that's the piece of information I would attack that debunking with but this video when you're watching that if it is going 200 miles an hour that's not outside of what's possible with with spacecraft or aircraft or or just plain right but I bet it's cold I understand that but it's not moving anywhere near much bigger series of events feel like the gimbal craft itself that's another debunking thing they said it's a plane banking away and you're seeing it through thermal for small talk with the pilot not f****** so this is the gimble gimble pulling up right now and how fast it was spinning like a top and for like a 10 hours without refueling I mean the thing was just sitting out there this was not this is An Occurrence that happened over a course of many many weeks now when it rotates like that the debunking theory is that you're seeing a plane bank so as if our military doesn't know what another plane is other planes look very different when you see them through thermal this thing was self rotating and I just did an interview and how fast is this over rather how warm is this thing supposed to is this supposed to actually be hot I am unaware of it to Thermal Randy I'm unaware of the specifics of that one when it comes to heat all I know is that it is self-actuated it is not something that is a glare or flare of a heat signature making it look like it's turning the actual craft is self-actuated and what is the that halo around it. Just an artifact of the of the Fleer thermal it's not the premise that government would tell you all right look we're going to release these videos reluctantly Lou Elizondo the guy that got him released and then the US government formally released them a couple of months ago the idea that the u.s. government would release it the Pentagon says these are unidentified the end it you know if it was a bird or a jet engine the pilots would not have the kind of reaction that they had that you can hear on the audio our government does not tell members of Congress to Pentagon doesn't go to the Senate intelligence committee videos and say what identified if it isn't and you know the reaction of the pilots that the fact that they would were forced to release at the begin with suggest it really is unidentified addressed it they have a spirited conversation when he was here but he created an organism Lou Elizondo who ran that program came forward and brought with him those videos I saw them 2 days after Lou Elizondo stepped on the stage with Tom and said I was in charge of the program he and Chris Mellon have been sort of the engineers of getting that story Into The New York Times that changed everything as I said the last two-and-a-half years everything is turned on its head the New York Times covers the story the result is other media covered as well for it forever and end it and that allowed people who keep the secrets that pressure meant that people in Congress started asking questions two days after the story came out I interviewed Senator Harry Reid who was the one who got the money to create that program that became a tip and he said his phone has been ringing off the hook from other members of Congress who are now suddenly interested I didn't know that was a program they're telling him how do we learn more about this it started a series of closed-door briefings on Capitol Hill that continue to this day of the pie like David fravor Werehog before Congress first in front of the staff of the Senate intelligence and then Senate armed services and then the elected members these the Senators who get briefed on it and they were impressed and they wanted more pilots to come in so it's been going on for two-and-a-half years and two weeks ago no excuse me about a month ago now the culmination of a Senator Marco Rubio is now the chairman of the Senate intelligence committee drops his bill and it's the budget for the intelligence budget for next year and includes a call provision in there we want Congress wants to have a mechanism set up or where we get regular briefings from the Pentagon on UFOs that's an astonishing change of events it's because the media pressure and then Congressional interest it made it more acceptable for everybody to pursue the subject matter it's got out of the shadows and the Pentagon is reacted in fits and starts oh sometimes as they said to the New York Times that program and it had nothing to do with UFOs I said it did then he said it did they were admitted Lou Elizondo worked on the program then they said he didn't they said that the. Which is the other program the mother program that became a tip that that had nothing to do with you UFOs what it did so they continue to sort of lie and obvious gate and muddy the waters but the fact is that there's too much momentum from media and Congress and the public to hide this anymore that which is the other program the mother program that became a tip that that had nothing to do with you we Are UFOs what it did so they continue to sort Ally and obvious Kate and muddy the waters but the fact is that there's too much momentum from media and Congress and the public to hide this anymore

Georgia I think that you're probably like one of the most important figures when it comes to journalism and UFOs and when you broke the Box bizarre story was that is at 89 when was that 1989 89 1989 I remember reading about it I remember hearing about a remember watching Clips on television and watching countless Bob Lazar interview it all came out of you I mean did you think at that time that's about UFOs before you admit Bob Lazar and how much did it change while you got to know him and hear his story changed quite a bit I have not really given it much thought at all you know it's probably the same level of curiosity as most people you go about your life you pay your bills you go to work you at your love your family and it's always out there somewhere and wonder what the deal is on the weld on it until 1987 into the studio comes a guy named John Lear and I had heard sort of a a little bit about him his family was famous as Dad developed a Learjet the 8-track tape John had run for the state senate and he had a certain amount of credibility with our news organization klas-tv because he had helped us break a really big story the story was the stealth fighter the F-117 he had told my boss Ned day managing editor about this amazing plane that was invisible to radar flying up it's gonna pie and Area 51 we had an interest in Area 51 related but Ned broke that story it went National so John Lear comes into the station one day with a stack of what turned out to be UFO documents you plop some on dad's desk and says Ned this is going to be the next biggest Story the biggest story in history at the UFO cover-up aliens are here Technologies been recovered Ned takes a look at it and says I'm not doing this story if it was true I'd already know about it this is crazy but I'm eavesdropping as I tend to do only curious person twice as he's going out I said Lear let me take a look at this material and I looked at it that way at the time I was producing and hosting this little public Affair show 30-minute interview show it would are Sunday morning at 6 nobody watches it would be interviewing a city councilman a county commissioner what the heck I'll put leader on there and I let him go and he told me this big scenario about secret treaties with aliens and Recovery technology in a giant cover up some of the information sound outrageous some of it seemed like it would be worth checking out suddenly the phone starts ringing off the hook I'm getting calls about people that one who was that guy what was the deal on that UFO stuff is it real I had him out again 6 months later at the response was bigger Adam on a third time with a guy named Bill Cooper I regret that any told him and even more elaborate conspiracy he's the Behold The Pale Horse Fascination and bases on the moon aliens are there right now where he had seen these documents when he was in the Navy and he's going to tell the world about it then he's going to go away well every time he told the story the documents got bigger and bigger and anybody who criticized Bill Cooper became part of the secret government including me so we do this third show with Lear any hints that he knows a guy who might be Bearden give me the name of that time couple months later I am anchoring the five news on KLA us and we have a nightly or evening interview segment 5 minutes segment live interview Our Guest doesn't show up and we're scrambling to find somebody to fill that hole and I thought about Lear so I called him up not knowing what have been going on and lazars life or lear's life and I said hey what are you doing interview just turned out that Bob through the wringer the lot of stuff going on in his life he felt threatened and he said yes we had a blackout his face we do this interview and he spills the basics of the story I worked out there at a place called S4 I saw a 9 flying saucers and an underground base this is technology that came from somewhere else I'm in fear for my life holy cow the phone's not ringing off the hook my news director comes to public we arranged to go meet Bob Lazar my news director Bob stolo a night that following weekend and putting through Paces where we would ask him questions about his background and how he got the job we spend a couple hours with him when we walked out of that meeting taken holyshit what if this is true you know this is really risky for us as journalist it risky for our personal reputations if it blows up in our faces we do the story and it would really damage the reputation of our news organization which is classes at Jewel it's always been a leader and in Las Vegas one of the best TV news operations in the country we're putting a lot on the line while we decide let's take our time let's look into this guy story and in an order to understand Lazar would have to look at the bigger picture of UFOs so I started a Cram Course on ufology and I read everything and I spent eight months like cramming for a final exam that never happened I read everything I interviewed people that same year mufon had its is an International Symposium in Las Vegas and I'd they're all the world's UFO people came right to me I got to interview them traveled around went to Los Alamos Lazar talk us into the lab we took cameras in there he walked us around waving to people we didn't even have to stop for security took us into the the lab like it was a rabbit going through its own Borough he knew it would like to his way around we were allowed to take a camera in there we put those stories together put them on the air in the and man it just went through the roof every night of these 9 - 9 part series people got the audience got bigger phones are ringing off the hook people calling giving us information something it's on something called perinet which was sort of a precursor to the internet and it was huge and and it changed my life for sure I had no idea that there were so many people out there interested in the topic and I was hooked and I really got hooked on those are not only because his story personally you know I was interested in him we became friends I saw what happened to him after that live interview and MD 7 and 1/2 months before we went and revealed his identity people really mess with them I mean they were you cannot convey what it was like how weird it was then breaking into his house leaving the windows open messing with things in his in his home breaking into his car leaving the doors and windows down just messing with his head and you think that was the government was doing why do I think so and then so I had put out a call to people I want other people to come forward I've been asked for his identity was revealed I am actively seeking information from the public if you ever worked at Area 51 or S4 you know anything about this you're at Nellis Air Force Base reach out to me so I started getting calls and six people right in a row who would talk to me on the phone and offered to give me the information or visited right after the call one of them was a guy who did returns for people at Nellis Air Force Base needed got to know these guys really well and got information about crashes there was a guy who was a golf pro at Nellis who had gone on our road road trips with officers and told him about what this weird stuff out of Area 51 that seem to be from somewhere else he gets visited and there was a lady who worked in the court system a cop told me about her and I talked to her on the phone and she had worked at the court system but before she'd work for a company called homes Ann Arbor which is a defense contractor and she said she sat in as a stenographer in these meetings and heard these conversations between the government contractors and Air Force officials about crashed saucers and they went after the meeting that took take the tape out of the typewriter in and destroy it and take all the notes and she agreed to tell me the story it was just a tiny piece of the store at the next day she's visited by these two guys in they tell her look you are still subject to your security clearance I hope you know that and then they said we know you travel to La to see your daughter and we know she comes here it's a big desert out there would be terrible if something happened to either one of you this lady is scared shittless she didn't make that stuff up so six people who would offer to give me information on the phone one right after another good visited and it it made me mad it also made me mad that dealing with your trying to fill in pieces of Bob Lazar his life no there's some gaping holes I know it better than anybody I've had to deal with it for 31 years but I always thought if if he worked at Los Alamos in classified projects and a scientific or technical capacity then it would make sense that he could get hired into a program like S4 as somebody who thinks outside the box despite personal shortcomings or whatever they might bring somebody like him in to help him crack a problem that they hadn't been able to resolve themselves so I focused I knew he had been there I talk to people who remember them for being there but the lab kept telling me no no record of him he's never here and then I can show them will look I've got the Los Alamos newspaper It's a Small Town paper there it is on the front page of a front page story Bob Lazar physicist Mason facility Los Alamos lab it's a story about his jet car don't still have no record of him and then I found his name in the phone book from the Arrow when he was there he's in the lab phone book you've been hired by kirchmayr which is a company that set a Headhunter that fills positions at Los Alamos and places like that so great I'll reach out to kirchmeier they said yeah we hired employment records that would show where he went to school whatever information you guys had yes couple weeks ago by nothing more weeks again I start writing a two and a half years and finally by the end of it any records that pissed me off it made me mad and I think that that is really what got me hooked in the story is that I was being jacked around by government and National facilities like that we should explain the Los Alamos thing cuz the Los Alamos thing coincided with him doing work at MIT right that's how he's explained it to me and explain it to me I don't think I'm at Liberty to say what the project was because the project the way he was describing it is essentially internationally illegal like what they were working on and that's one of the reasons why he was saying he explained what the project was sounded very feasible also very evil and then it was it was basically a weapon and then he said that this was the reason why there was no actual record of him studying at MIT it wasn't important he got a degree it was important that he understand that the technical vacations of what they were attempting to accomplish that's my understanding as well and you know it's always been the most problematic part of his background and it's where a lot of people in the Bob Lazar story that's where they stop when you listen to him talk and when he describes thing it's very clear. MIT or Caltech and get a degree you got to take classes in something other than science you. I could not imagine Bob Lazar taking an English Lit class to save his life but he is a brilliant guy he got it I'll give you an example in April Cobra thing is is Raging my wife and I are as staying at home we're getting packages delivered for food and things of that sort I'm a little worried they didn't know about the contact with you can get it off a cardboard boxes or whatever and I mentioned a bob in a phone conversation I'm thinking about buying one UV screener systems because wait a second don't buy one I think I've got the parts that I can make you one of my garage and a week later it arrives this thing he's got it in his garage handmade this big Scanner with these UV things that don't work they just whipped it up in his garage I'll remind you you got that the scanner I got a laser cutting your laser gun it is super powerful handheld toys it looks like a handheld toys that it's actually Roy but he put a diode in there and it's super powerful I can light s*** on fire but my taste budget so I got the laser gun you also got the flamethrower undeniable concrete things when it comes to science when it comes to elements when it comes to propulsion systems he clearly knows what he's talking about and the really confusing thing for people that our detractors is he really hasn't changed the story in 31 years really is the same story and that's really hard to do comes to elements when it comes to propulsion systems he clearly knows what he's talking about and the really confusing thing for people that our detractors is he really hasn't changed the story in 31 years really is the same story and that's really hard to do

is the ultimate who knows question but God damn I wish more people from S4 would come forth if Bob really did work with all those people and they really were breathe the same way he was if we could get more of those people to talk that would be utterly fascinating well at your show has a big reach so maybe this time somebody old it here could not be verified in the back I think they were lying to me and probably the people down all the times of the guys f****** Center on UFO Stageline b******* I mean you know he hasn't even he was hoping one of them however I have had people that work at Area 51 confirm Parts above Story one in particular saw him coming off the jet where he says he saw him coming off the Janet like I said will you go on record with me that you met Bob there on the tarmac why everything we did there was confidential we couldn't even tell our wives why would I go on record with you and if you did go on record he probably get harassed or arrested or he can't even tell you what he ate for lunch out there you know that so and one of the guys I was really excited to talk with just recently passed away he actually started the bar there was a tear if it was everybody told the bartender stuff he started as a flower fun because no one would send flowers when people died out there but my point is people have come forward to George to me a lot of people are lying but it adds up over time and I got more than two dozen people who have come to me with bits and pieces of the story who would worked out at Area 51 that I can firmware out their security people who had seen a disc under a tarp in a in a hanger different people that work there at different times 50 60 70s and 80s who had little piece the story not to confirm Bob and then there was one that I pursued I don't know if you want to keep going on this but I pursued this guy I was trying to find in the early nineties people who were in a position to know about what goes on out there and I found one and he had been active in the nuclear weapons program he'd work for eg&g he had the EG had the contract to manage area 51 from the beginning all the way through the first 30 or 40 Years of it and so I started basically stalking the guy Suns was a state senator and he had told me he confided me that you got to ask my dad about UFOs and aliens and another son have been FBI agent so I stuck the guy introduce myself there were a couple of it if public events where I would just show up and he finally got confident enough in me to invite me to his home and he start gets out the scrapbooks and he showed me these stories and clippings and photos from the nuclear weapons program and I'm watching the taking notes and stuff and suddenly he does The Bunny Goes you're not here to talk about this nuclear weapons are you I said no not really in his wife walks in and she says oh you're not going to tell him that stuff for you and then he started telling me that nobody course of 2 years I would meet with him have a cup of coffee somewhere I couldn't take notes I couldn't record anything but he told me the story now this guy actually is someone that you've had reference to on your show my Brandy Jacob Cinder book of everything yeah well it's the same guy but the story they told me was different he told her he said that they eventually told me that they had a live alien out there that I could not go public with us until after he died that they that they had crafts that it was in a special spot originally was at Indian Springs which is now Creech Air Force Base and then it was moved Area 51 when 51 became active and that it was a very small group that try to analyze this stuff they didn't know where it was from they didn't know how we obtained it he said this thing was alive and they eventually were able to communicate with us and told me that he was going to make a video tape and it was going to make it available so that after he died I could have it well suddenly two or three years later it totally changes his story but it happened was there was a congressional investigator his name was Richard D'Amato and he work for Senator Robert Byrd and he oversaw black budget projects and he got onto this UFO story from Whitley strieber and so he was assigned find out what the deal is so he went around the country talk to different researchers and came to me and wanted to know about Area 51 and lows are so I told him the story and I told him about this guy and he got permission for this guy to violate his security oats and talk to him about it and they had multiple conversations and they went to the founders of egg2 company in and it became a dead-end but after that Congressional inquiry this guy completely changed his tune so he made up the story which is the one that you heard from Andy Jacobson what crashed at Roswell was a Russian technology Nazi technology flown by the Russians containing a little concentration camp victims who'd been experimented on by dr. Mengele completely ridiculous you know story but I think he got scared he was a real guy in a real position to know and had shared with his family some of this information I think the story that he told me was legit but if they eat tape which I think you did I didn't get it how much time has been wasted talking about b******* in this subject centuries pay more doubt there with live aliens and I'm getting letters from his supposedly written by his neighbor's hey you got to check this guy out doctor I'll just say x he was taken away by armed security in the middle of the night I think he has something to do with aliens and from out of the blue then suddenly I am at a planetarium event and I'm going to speak about UFOs some event at this community college and the guy shows up in a men's room hey my name is dr. Axe standing there at the urinal you're not do story about me are you so know who are you what this was a concerted effort to get me to believe that he had worked out there and went on for a couple years and of course it was complete b******* when I finally did dig into his background like I was able to document where he at work and what you been doing through most of his life and it was just like a fantasy role-playing thing at least I hope it was was a concerted effort to get me to believe that he'd worked out there and went on for a couple years and of course it was complete b******* when I finally did dig into his background like I was able to document where he at work and what you been doing through most of his life and it was just like a fantasy role-playing thing at least I hope it was

one thing that Bob talked about from some of the the documents that he had been given when he was working it asked for was that they had actually taken apart in engineering human beings and dad is to me like if you if you wanted to sell what's what's the things going to get people to roll their eyes the most will you would say a while that the aliens came down here and they they they they got a hold of the lower hominids and they accelerate illusionary process new created human beings people a lot of people go get the f*** out of here that's crazy but if you look at people one of the weird things about people's how much we very we're so different like not like any other animal like other than dogs and dogs are the way they are because we f*** with them cuz we manipulated my we are the dogs of the rest of the world you know I'm if you really think about it we're so different than every other primate this. Days Inn close to us and I know there were some other human species you know was the how do you say it's a denovi ins right there's neanderthals homofloriensis which is those little hobbit people did a bunch of other humanoids but nothing that came close to what we are and if you look at Ancient Ancient primates and us the leap between them and us is so quick W the human brain size over a. Of 2 million years is just Bonkers like they don't know why they don't know what happened I have no idea but if that really is what happen if they said listen they're going to get there but we can help like which it was his jump in cuz he stinks like like chimps are still Champs right there still murdering each other they're still tearing monkeys apart and eating them alive they're still doing the same things they've been doing for thousands and thousands of years whereas we're living in Condominiums and watching cable you know it's like whatever has happened to humans has happened so that the advancement is so unique it's so different than any other animal if we really have been visited since the beginning of time since history of all those biblical stories and all the stories from the Bhagavad Gita and all these ancient tax that do talk about the Manas and flying crafts in the beans that come down from upon High if all that really is aliens intervening with of the biological evolution of human beings how f****** weird or we stupid science experiment well you know people say I want disclosure I want to know we're ready we can handle it are you sure I mean I mean are you sure you can hand because we don't know exactly what it is that can be disclosed but what if it turns out that we're an Agricultural Product you know that we are being harvested for something or we're being allowed to to breed and kind of science experiment let's see where this goes and then when it's time to end the experiment I mean I'm not sure people can handle look at how they've handled if you would think about if aliens coming down and interfering with weapon systems and interfering with nuclear launch codes and things one of those lines if you think about the uptick in alien sightings and activity post Hiroshima and Nagasaki that would kind of make sense like all right these f****** dick heads they've gotten to a point where they can do some really crazy shed and they literally might ruin this whole thing they figured out how to light the match if you take this primate this animal and you embed it with the Superior or at least more evolutionary Advanced genetics then you manipulate it to a point where you make it weaker but smarter far more Curious and obsessed with Innovation you just leave it there it's just a matter of time like how much is that time is it a thousand years is a 10,000 years overtime they're going to figure out some crazy s*** cuz they're just going to keep working together like they do and then boom bombs go off in like crazy Fox figured out how to split the atom we going to get down there and and keep a closer eye on these people I'm open to that possibility of that being the case I mean it's crazy weighted with let's throw us were aliens let's throw us a cellphone into a chimpanzee cage here how about it see how you do for a while I don't know if it will ever going to figure this stuff out of more than that it would be like let's let's take a chimpanzee and manipulate its brain and leave them with a bunch of tools and I'll give it give it some things and see what it comes up with and then come back and try again I mean maybe Neanderthal was like well you know they're not going to get any further past this like this this project scrap it start with something new I don't think that's not look we do weird s*** to animals I mean we study them all you know I was just talking to a friend of mine about zoos about how bummed out I was when I went to this wolf sanctuary cuz that's what it's like how it's amazing to get to see these wolves they've rescued I got there I saw a bunch of castrated wolves they were living in prison I didn't think it was cool at all a freak me out I got really depressed I think what you look at what we're will do chimps mean I remember going to forget maybe was Denver I forget where it was the zoo but there was a zoo where there was this monkey that was in a cage that was screaming just scream like he was going crazy with a small cage and people are walking around he's just like he's probably going mad this is not how a monkey supposed to live there supposed to be in the jungle in the wild you know harvesting food and living with other monkeys not supposed to be in a cage where these other weird primates walk by and stare at it it just overwhelms all of its defense systems and Survival Systems we're willing to do that two things that we know at least slightly intelligent like what what would be willing to do weirder more advanced experiments to primates the Creator and hat how do you tell a population if you do study UFOs if the government you find out okay s*** there are Grafton they're probably studying us like how do you f****** tell people that like how are people going to react and the way that it's so compartmentalised that's been the best proof to me as well if I talk to somebody who's worked on a project and they're like all I saw was a supercapacitor in 1974 and I know this was not something we made he was told nothing else he just saw a technology that was more efficient than anything he had ever seen so the idea that people are funneling listen station whoever is fun and protecting this information as we see how ossip and a tip didn't get special access permission that's a special type of program they knew about Crash retrieval programs so they said we want to compare notes and information with other UFO project they were denied access do other goodies and they said no other retrieval programs material program stuff that Bob is talked about to just the fact that it's it's so hidden even within its own mechanism that they won't allow this scientific team to work on this project it tells me as Robbie says something's up I mean something's up and they said no other retrieval programs material program stuff that Bob is talked about to just the fact that it's it's so hidden even within its own mechanism that they won't allow this scientific team to work on this project it tells me as Robbie says something's up I mean something's up

this is the other paper I want to tell you about it it does mention aliens so it's a it's it is a recalculation out of trouble for having been released the calculations and again I can't read it as reference document an introduction to this to statistical Drake Equation so this is something that they they created for the defense department so they could get an understanding what the Baseline of our information is about all those different topics I told you about it then this one is How likely is it that we have Galactic neighbors and how close might they be the key question how far are they it comes to an answer and it's like 30 pages into that but you're the first person outside the program Bob on and feta favorite people are talking about this in the Zeitgeist I have had more people serious people come forward to me in the last year of my life than ever before and it includes soccer moms and two people that I want use the documentary documentary you know and I found out that I kept my word to favor and didn't tell his story New York Times told it I kept all that you know people started to trust me with hey we can keep how should he needs two people have come forward to me and drove since the Lazar movie and of course it's like soccer moms and people that just say I don't want to be known I just want somebody to hear this because my husband would think I'm crazy me to tell you what happened me and I'm out of you like and what are they telling you I mean Joe it's everything you can imagine from seeing crafts that are right there right in front of them to adoption stories but I don't get into cuz it's too crazy for me but the reporting encounters UFO stuff that's why they call me they don't call me for other stuff right but also very serious people people that have worked or do work within our military and say I had an encounter there was an incursion I know George. With this for 30 years so it's just it's just new for me that the the amount of people coming forward to me and telling me their stories and giving me documents and stuff like that I got to be careful cuz a lot of it's got to be bulshit a good handful how are a lot of it is you know it's like bait the real estate tax credit or a little bit of interest in others and the general topic this paper says with a 75% probability the nearest extraterrestrial civilization is located in between 1361 and 3979 light years from us so there you go in the solar systems in the universe but they ain't coming here but then you look at what Bob said and how gravity wave application would and then you look at the testimony of like Commander favor and how those craft move you see how the gimbal moves and then you start thinking well distance doesn't matter anymore that's just icing physicist we're right we'll hold on physics has changed as our understanding has changed so now we're looking at a propulsion system with distance doesn't matter man that brings us all f****** closer together if any of this is true if any of this is true this you mean there was a lot of naysayers back in the day that were quote-unquote UFO expert said had more traditional ideas of how they travel to look Stanton Friedman he had his hot potato theory that they just did it in short bursts like very fast travel in short bursts you could tolerate but if they had any he didn't believe in bibles are too but I always felt like there was some weirdness there like UFO guys Andre you are so used to people being full of s*** that everyone but them full of s*** and that's what I felt like with Stanton when Stanton would discredit Bob's education pass and all these different things I be like yeah but I don't know I don't think you know him I don't think you talk to him I don't think you get in the empty out empty out all your predisposed Notions of who the guy is and look at it what if he's telling the truth like what I be telling the truth is that place actually exists area S4 Yes does he have some weird knowledge of it yes did he really work at Los Alamos lab yes do people who work there remember him yes does he know how to navigate the building From the Inside Yes was there a f****** article in the newspaper where he built a f****** jet car and it said he was a physicist at Los Alamos lab yes these things are alive alive because he was a really smart guy again these UFO experts all believe that everyone else is full of s*** I had a 20-year dialogue with Stan Friedman and I respect the hell out of him because he really plotted away and really plow the ground on the topic in general try to make it respectable but he had a blind spot about Bob we had multiple face-to-face conversations and exchanged letters over the years did you ever say what if he was telling the truth what is the stopping point for him and you bring up like I'm sure Bob told you the same story told me about working at Los Alamos lab in his education at MIT. Tell him that story but it would not have mattered because Stan didn't hear any of that stuff all the things about how does he go out and know it's going to fly on Wednesday but it would not have mattered because Stan didn't hear any of that stuff all all the things about how does he go out and know it's going to fly on Wednesday night and take friends out there three weeks in a row and then record it on video doesn't want to hear that why not didn't hear it

I find more interesting as what's happening now with the the government study that started here at Skinwalker Ranch also the one that was in the New York Times and and where the information is going now that these are new times things are starting to drop to the public and what what is starting to drop well they so the skinwalker story lack of physical evidence so there may be attention of the defense intelligence agency he looks around he has an experience he's not there 15 or 20 minutes in something appears inside a house that only he can see he doesn't say anything about it goes back to Washington meet with Harry Reid in a skiff in the capital and two other US senators he presents them as the proposal for a study of UFOs and related phenomena not just like a tip looking at flying saucers that encounter US military but something more expensive they put out a contract Bigelow bids on it organization called bass again puts together a team of Experts of 50 or 60 employees and they start spending it they go around the world they interact with other governments they get their files they send out teams to hotspots to try to figure it out looking at whether there are connections between what we call flying saucers possible aliens and all these other different phenomena the program goes on for a couple of years and some of the Yanks the Yanks the funding and get this the reason that the I suddenly became worried about all this weirdness that was been reported at the skinwalker elsewhere it's cuz they thought it was demonic and they thought if this comes out that we're studying this weird phenomena hey it's going to end up on the front page of the New York Times which it did and B we might be invoking Satan in here these were fundamentalist Christians in the Pentagon who pulled the money because they thought it was the devil I'm not making that up and the program it hasn't stopped US military has been studying UFOs since the beginning in every branch of our military they continue to do so and now every time they get caught in a lie so it is continuing to tell him about it is continuing so but the a tip program and creates this fewer it got funding and it now has a structured organization and it is looking into cases where the US military sees these things and off the coast of The Virginian they've been seeing this stuff I think braver talked about it when he was here these beach balls with the cubes inside of them and they were sitting there for hours off the coast right where are war planes would go out for training exercises as if they wanted to be seen and it went on they were 70 or 80 or Witnesses during 20 2016 Pilots some of them were willing to talk about it some more it continues to this day now the program has on more solid footing now Congress has been informed and they want to expand it and get more information we are told the New York Times is working on another follow-up story to look into reports of what Lazar said crash retrievals reverse-engineering the existence of these metamaterials bits and pieces that grandpa had stashed in a barn somewhere whether it's Roswell or other alleged they're taking it seriously to figure out if there's something about these materials that we could not have have created the bass program that you've also program created a baseline of what we know about the state of our technology right now in different disciplines lift and and propulsion things of that sort they commissioned 38 papers that would be the Baseline for what the state of human knowledge was in 2009 and and those papers were I were published on a an internal Department of Defense website but they never been made public six of them have no leak out and I brought along two more for you if that have not been made public of UFOs queso they commissioned these papers only a handful have been released to the public George happens to have that you're the first person outside the program this is a defense intelligence reference document this paper is on metamaterial so how you can engineer existing earth materials where you could duplicate what you're seeing up there none of these papers are two of them actually mention aliens or UFOs they're strictly on what the state of our knowledge is or was as of 2009 and they reference aliens and UFOs and how do they reference while there's one of the papers that looks at effects of people that come into contact with these unknown craft and it's sort of like the effects of radiation or microwaves there are physical effects hundreds of cases that have been investigated and that's what that paper looks at and that's already out there that is done to the body what they called close proximity to a UAP which is a UFO there are known effects to the human body that are horrible and there was a study that focused on the witnesses they do know how close encounters like military people and how it negatively impact their bodies of each of these reports as he obtains them are as people find them they're very Illuminating to what our government know there was one that looked at how you would track a Hypersonic vehicle traveling through space how difficult would it be now it doesn't say UFOs but it's looking at things that really travel fast that are coming in from space and Rapid fear how would you track that no one that paper was written in 2009 we didn't have Hypersonic weapons now the Russians claimed now it's a great time because we're in a rush to develop those things so that was one of the papers that I made public last year and I interviewed the engineering Professor who wrote it he wasn't writing about UFOs he was writing about the state of knowledge about Hypersonic weapon systems back then it's a similar thing for metamaterials that's what this this paper is how would you engineer material so you could travel through space that would have say you shoot it with the microwaves and it could develop certain special property so just did put in text maybe because you know here's the deal our government has now admitted There Are UFOs. That's the world we're living in there unidentified objects or crafts that seemed to outpace outmaneuver actively Jama radar systems even go over our military installations High sensitivity their incursions all of this is now said it's a different world we're living in however the next thing that people are talking about now is well we also have materials Madden materials materials associated with UFO craft they might even go as far as to say we have whole materials crafts from somewhere else so when they're saying we have materials Associated from crafts are they saying that they have a crash yes who was a physicist who worked with Bigelow on both needs and bass made a presentation in Las Vegas in June of 2018 where he says yeah we got these materials we're trying to figure out where they came from and how they were engineered because some of them appear to be multi-layered that are beyond what is known engineering capabilities of humans it looks like they would have had to been made in say zero gravity of space and we don't have any manufacturing plants up there he implied that they came from crashes doesn't mean it's a UFO from Zeta reticuli it's crashed from somewhere and we don't know whose it is so they're trying to figure out whether we can duplicate it or not and I got a bunch of samples have you seen any of his know I haven't seen Bigelow and I've seen what people claim so the Army now has these metamaterials that were famously put in through the Ashley the coast to coast show at Mccall Arts part I told his last time I did I was able to obtain them briefly and have five scientists from New Mexico that I knew material scientist physicist interrogate as they say the samples for numerous days I don't believe that I had access to the best appointment we didn't find anything extraordinary other people have to write out the Army how do you say didn't find anything extraordinary did you find anything ordinary know they were the materials here and worked on with my team and I filmed it all but right now because of ttsa they've made a deal with the Army and I think the Army has these parts but I feel like we're missing that the big note here at the Big Mo a few years ago UFOs are still laughable military doesn't look after that turns out we have programs that do I'm suspecting and maybe you can talk more about it that the next piece of information is that there are reverse engineering programs which will then make everybody have to look at Lazar story a little bit differently once again if we admit that we are trying to reverse-engineer either materials or actual craft from somewhere else in Telugu designed metals or craft and somewhere else if there are crash retrieval programs for vehicles with we don't know where they're from that's going to make me look at Bob story even even more differently if they discuss some retrieve craft right been asking people about this stuff but I mean to get that into print to get a pastor editors it's a hard deal from the bottom of a wedge shape crafts in the late 1940s made of 26 alternating layers 124 microns darkbeast Muse said I say that is my business and 100 to 200 microns of silver magnesium zinc alloy each of the six pieces receive from the US Army stores were formed with a curvature that tapered so basically they're saying there's no process that we know of that would create this alloy layered in that type of layer system actually have a piece out about this archive the interrogator right now and his studies do show isotopic ratios that are not from this Earth so he's confident with his research my big Point UFO crashes or a runoff has anybody independently analyze those things yeah you got to hold whole teams of people will how come this isn't public knowledge why you listen to New York Times we got to get you got to get to talk with jacqua do you have them as guess I'm not good to talk with how old is Jack now getting up there cuz as soon as hell yeah national security reasons to be looking at who these who's flying these craft things are still being seen over our military installations at Pentagon wants to know who's lying and that's a perfectly legitimate inquiry regardless a little green men no one wants to say they're at the Pentagon that we're investigating UFOs and aliens they're just investigating where do these things come from are they a threat can we duplicate that technology if the Russians of the Chinese get the stuff before we we do if they can do what the ticket we duplicate that technology if the Russians of the Chinese get the stuff before we we do if they can do what the Tic Tac did it's a game-changer so they want to know how whose it is and how we can duplicate it in that is a perfectly legitimate inquiry whether there are aliens or not

your exams have you gone back and forth on this if you have like opinions that you abandoned I'll tell you one the one that that I think I really struggled with her and that surprised me big-time was people always try to get me to say it's child abuse to put your kid in puberty blockers and whatnot is child abuse the parents are committing child abuse and I don't say that and I don't say that for a reason cuz I'm interview the parents and once you interview parents of kids that you know transition their kids you start talking them and you realize that they thought they were doing what was right for their kid they were really scared they didn't know like they're very concerned I mean they're worried and they've been encouraged by mental health mental health professionals who should have been looking out for the child that if you don't do this your child could kill him kill herself or himself and that's terrifying and sometimes I'll bring up the about them you know just just check do you know what what about the long-term you know maybe foreclosing orgasm like your if your kid goes through all this and goes on that you know me know that to testosterone and then go see no gets the surgery is you because they never went through normal puberty they may never experience orgasm what about that and I'll never have heard of that or we're putting so many capacities at risk way address the negative aspects of transitioning and one of the one of the things about hormone blockers it drove me mad was they were trying to say that you could put a child on hormone blockers that the child change their mind there would be no problem whatsoever with a perverse that hey let me relieve you of any of the stress about this because we know that it will be no problem at all you could transition right back but I can't that's not true you do to affect your development contagion as you put it or of your kid is actually trans like how do you know and how would anyone know the person that's transitioning themselves how would they know right so that have evolved persistent consistent insistent severe discomfort in a two-year-old and four-year-old doesn't keep his feelings to himself if he hates being a boy insists that he's really a girl is punching his in o p Ness and whatever people vary widely in the way they they deal with things that bother them right so I think that the DSM is a list of generalizations about different mental health disorders and different reflections don't sit in my experience and now it's almost everything I mean they're really oh but I hate this whatever they you know it's not the kind of thing a parent won't know what do you thread book kids should be on hormone blockers I don't I have never look I'm a journalist so I explored I talk to everybody and I explore every side of every issue and I I think that hormone blockers are really significant interventions that can be dangerous we don't fully have a handle in the long-term effects but am I someone who believes they should be totally banned you know I have never said that I've never taken a position because a lot of psychologists that I really respect haven't said that a lot of doctors that I roast fact haven't said that there's no one they could help could you imagine that those doctors and psychologists would be in fear of expressing that they don't think it's a good idea the same way you were discussing the therapist will really talk to you about the problems of them expressing themselves honestly right this is how I say there's one kid who can be helped by puberty blockers and tell a lot of these issues a lot of people until you know psychologist I respect people who've been very open on a lot of this stuff until they tell me there's no children who could ever be helped by puberty blockers I'm not someone who will come out in favor of a band of banding could be beneficial that could benefit from puberty blockers versus one who you really should just let become an adult and go through all the various changes that children go through is probably in many cases a totally safe bet another words you don't have to go in there and immediately means part of what's crazy about our immediately part of what's crazy about our age as we think the moment you're in our kids are in distress we need to medicate them they can never be upset right we are in a pushing this accommodation of every discomfort and every right everything our kids say

now they're telling their watching these you through these influencers which is another thing you know you have these trans influencers and they promised these girls that if they just go Auntie everything will get better and the problem okay a couple reasons so 1 is testosterone has certain good effects so it delivers Euphoria and it's it suppresses anxiety and anxiety is one of their biggest problems so they wanted and they feel great and I can't wait to tell their friends it makes there. Go away and it redistributes fat so now these girls feel like I just beat puberty I feel amazing I want to tell everybody how great I feel and they are brave all of a sudden they're braver and socially Boulder the problem is of course it would they don't like to talk about online with all the really dangerous stuff that comes with testosterone to like at least a hard infertility like risk of cardiovascular Italian heart attack risk of heart attack was way up there are no body hair facial hair so I think Shadow for life how does a kid know whether they are someone who's being easily influenced and someone who is giving in to this anxiety and you are a part of the way you're describing a contagion amongst your friends versus someone who genuinely trance-like someone who genuinely is born in the wrong body so we have a hundred year diagnostic we know that it is in this whole history it typically percent in early childhood ages 2 to 4 is when we see it starting and it was overwhelmingly boys little boys who say no Mommy I'm not a boy I'm a girl call me a girl only want to play with other girls only want to do you know play with girl toys and they sometimes they hate their sexual organ I mean sometimes you know it's a severe persistent and system consistent feeling and then a lot of them would grow out of it and some of them wouldn't and they would become what we used to call transsexuals now we're seeing an explosion women you know suddenly deciding their trans with their friends and they are doing it in friend groups will have a whole friend group of trans kids they are you know doing it after social media immersion consider adults never did it because of social media and it certainly never won them friends so what about women the word Tramp who wanted to be girls but what about girls who won boys that existed too and that's also typically began in early childhood and most most of these kids have left alone would outgrow it sewed it gender dysphoria is something that you know most most kids if they even if they experience the real thing will outgrow and some won't the gun so wacky but they were talking about there was a study done on men who experience gender dysphoria at a young age and then transition to become gay and just be just became gay just forget and they realize like this was just a part of their process and they're happy as a gay man and they did transition so that's very typical most of these most of these kids being trans and we are obviously especially adults why you know why is it better that we like this idea that if you just leave them alone they become gay men or would we let me know how many of them would be trans if they were encouraged that direction how many of are they happier this way or that way I did a very very human Problem by human problem I mean there's not really a good answer it's their human problems are slippery problems where it's like you're develop you like particular you're talking about young people there weird hijacking their development you're deciding okay if you made a decision to do forever alright we're going to stop your reproductive cycle introduce hormones that were never in your body and we're going to do a little bit tiny tiny mouth we're going to jack it up to the roof like f****** Hulk Hogan and you're you're you're going to be a different person now and I I hope you can make this decision at 17 that will affect the rest of your life I hope you're you're mentally capable of doing that that's how tall order right now Panda 40 times what her body would normally have okay we don't know we can talk about the rest but we don't know but is not presented to people as a highly experimental medicine which it is it's not reviewed by an Institutional review board they make it sound like it's something you can just sign a waiver for and no big deal that were like more Progressive now more open mind but because of that things have gotten a little slippery in terms of what we celebrate and what we should rationally step back and objectively analyze and say Jesus really the right way to handle this I think one of the things that happened was in 2012 W path which is the transgender Health you know organization worldwide organization change to an informed consent model saying that people should be able to get the the drugs they want or are you no claim to need on based on their own recognizance you sign a form you're aware of the rest can they get it and the problem was maybe they felt that there was too much gatekeeping as I call it or too much questioning they felt and you know that there were people who aren't getting the medical care they they needed the problem has you had 18 and the age of medical consent varies by state in Oregon is 15 it varies and you hit that age you can get it you walk out the Oregon it's 15 crazy and you don't need her parents approval we were talking before we got on the air about children like really young children transitioning you were saying that most people who transition know when they're very young that is a real that's a hot-button topic for people children and Horn blockers and children but I keep going to is if you are a woman and you you know you're a woman why do you need to get these hormones injected into your body but why can't you just be a woman I'll call you a woman like what are we doing with all these hormones like why are we complete like imagine you're a person who says I need to transition to be a woman and I know that I need a chemical that have add my body before and if I get that chemical injected then I'm going to be happy you know whatever an opioid but just relax let's see what your you know I mean that's effectively with you know what to sell say the opioid crisis doctors just handing over the prescription and we're seeing that right now with anybody who claims to have gender dysphoria they get it they say self-diagnose they say no no no I know it's my problem they don't have a mental health professional who says oh wait a second hold on you have a very high anxiety depression you have a lot of other mental health stuff going on let's deal with that first any therapists who dares to say that might violate one of the 19 conversion therapy laws we now have 19 different states turn on gender identity which means that therapist could lose our license if they say hold on I know you want to transition I know you think your promise gender dysphoria let's talk about some of your other problems if your fifteen-year-old can you come to therapist new say all my friends are going trans and I think I'm trans to the doctor has to essentially go with you on this little path you're on the doctors feel that they have to I mean the American the number of associate American Medical Association can you name an American Pediatric Society you know all these medical professional organizations most of them have adopted affirmative care which means their job is to affirm the patient self-diagnosis with regard to this one issue I mean they're there you know it's turning doctors into I don't like coaches right I mean they're how much time we've been doing this for the time. When this really started to escalate the last decade iuk you know Scandinavia we're seeing numbers across the West all of a sudden it's teenage girls it's the very same girls who spread every other you know contemporary hysteria or every other hysteria I wouldn't be surprised I mean these. These girls are getting these things so easily in their 15 or 16 or 17 or 18 I conducted almost 200 interviews so how many teenage girls or specifically I actually don't know I interviewed a lot a lot of people and and a bunch of adolescent girls as well and I have been through more than 20 yeah more than 10 but I don't know why I have to have a like spreadsheets for this fence and iron Reed adolescent girls and some of these girls have you no kids stayed with their transition and claimed to be happy maybe they are some of them but the problem is if you ask if you find out objective things about their lives right are you still in school or did you drop out or did you cut off your family or did you not do you have friends what's your social life like what your job do you have a regular job very often the picture is is a dark one it's not a good one it's not just a case of a lot of people in general though I mean especially people that have the kind of problems they have to begin with and they make this gigantic decision the question is did this decision of transitioning help or hurt and where would they be if they didn't you were talking about them before saying they were already in the dark place they're already awkward teenagers the kind of girls who cut themselves kind of girls were prone to anorexia and Witchcraft this is your your dealing with someone who doesn't have a Rosy future or right but I think we used to call that thanks teenage angst mean they got past it the problem is you're right not everyone but now they're getting their getting prescriptions they're changing the whole course of their lives so easily with no medical oversight okay point of 1% of the population so 1 and 10,000 people so probably no one un ties go with but today we already know that 2% of high school students are identifying as transgender and 2% of high school students you're talking about 1.1 million teenage you know High School Kids In America 2% we see that in 2016 between 2016 and 2017 the number of gender surgeries for biological females quadrupled so we know they are the biggest and fastest growing population wow that's a stunning number to percent you go from 1% of the whole population population to to high schoolers and the vast majority of them are teenage girls 80% what is the number I don't know we have to look at every indication that we know of that and I can give you a bunch of other statistics one of the reasons it's hard to know exactly how many aside from the fact that we don't have a centralized control this is because you don't need an actual diagnosis of gender dysphoria to get testosterone so you just go in and get it you don't need the diagnosis in England where you where you have a centralized Medical Care and they're you do need a diagnosis they know that the numbers for adolescent girls are up over 4000% holyshit so you know all the stuff before you wrote the book this is all the numbers that came out in the course of writing it yeah you run the risk of pissing people off and offending people and staying out you know you're going into an area where it's unless you are 100% in support of their decision and their rights and you you you celebrate them you're going to get into real trouble just don't think this is right for my daughter I can't even talk to my friends about it I'll get fired from my job if anybody finds this out but my daughter is not she's got a lot of problems with gender dysphoria is not one of them like I don't think this is right and I don't think it's going to cure her you know how much time do you have to even convince your daughter your daughters with her wacky friends 8 hours a day you know how much time do you have to even convince your daughter your daughter is it with her wacky friends 8 hours a day Jimmy Wright for a year they don't even tell you

irreversible damage the transgender craze seducing our daughters boy that's a hot-button subject right that is a this is a Minefield it shouldn't they that know people surely as adults are transgender course yes we fully support that I have friends who fall into that category your concern is about very young children to do with adults who are transgender okay many of whom are amazing people they you know went through mental health in a therapy and they decided they made the decisions they suffered with discomfort in their bodies from the time they were young and as adults they made a decision to transition we support them has nothing to do with my book what what what was the motivation to write this book and if it's about teenagers why is there a very young girl on the cover call infertility yeah that's what that's what happened I mean originally I thought I was going to void a reader wrote to me I write most often for the Wall Street Journal a reader wrote to me and she said listen I try to get every mainstream journalists to pick this up no one will touch it but my daughter got caught up in this all of a sudden she went off to college all the sudden it with her friend she had a lot of mental health issues anxiety depression and all of a sudden with her group of friends they all decided they're trans and she went on hormones and this is parents all across the country teenage girls all of a sudden decided with her friends there trans wanting surgeries and hormones and getting them and at first I thought I don't need this and so I tried to get another journalist to take it out a real investigative reporter I'm not I'm a I'm an opinion Journal as usual let you know that's what I've done and I couldn't get someone to take it up for not represent transgender adults that I met at all but the activist had convinced the world that because you know they they you know object to anyone's transition being questioned we can't talk about a mental health issue facing teenage girls know I've heard there's an issue with some teenage girls who are on the Spectrum who wind up getting sort of roped into this idea that that's what's wrong with them is that the things you covering your yeah I actually don't deal with that specifically very much and the reason is that's a whole bucket of itself because a lot of it is true that a lot of girls who are high-functioning autistic and I did interview some experts in autism and that's when I realized that's a book of its own which is that a lot of girls who are high-functioning autistic you know they tend to fixate and they had they are particularly susceptible to fixating on the idea that they might be a boy when it's entry to them so yeah I know exactly what you're talking about in there they are one part of this phenomenon but they're a big part so the teenage girl part so it doesn't you're talking about teenage girls that are susceptible to influence or you talking about teenage girls that are confused like why why are there so many teenage girls that are going in this direction like what do you think is happening they would have been bulimic and they would have been there high anxiety very pretty girls but they don't really fit in they come to high school and they don't have friends they don't have a click for them and there were so smart and they're so lonely cuz they're on the internet all the time and there with Mom all the time and they don't fit in at school and this is a way to understand they're just they're at their pain that they're really feeling they're in pain but they decide their problem is that they're supposed to be a boy and the fix is testosterone so you heard of this problem you knew of told that their children were going through this and how long did it take you before you decided to commit to pen-to-paper on this maybe a month or so just hearing the reports of the parents and reading the original study there's an original study that in the book is you know jumps off from which is the Lisa Littman paper at Brown University Public Health researcher who looked into this and she found that there was all of a sudden this huge epidemic in America teenage girls deciding they were transferred there from after social media margin and and pushing for hormones and surgeries have you had a conversation about this was someone who's a trans activist that says well maybe what's really going on I mean just taking the argument of it maybe was going on is there are a lot of trans women and there would be more or there's a lot of women who would turn trans become a man there would be more but they never had had that door open to them before and then maybe there's more trans people than we think amazing amazing so the great point and I thought about it so you know I try to look I'm a journalist I like to look at ideas and both sides I didn't have like I did not have a dog in this race so let me tell you three reasons I don't think that's compelling number one when when Lisa let me look at the prevalence rate she found that it's 70 times what we would expect with in a friend group which means it's highly concentrated in groups are friends but there's two other reason so we wouldn't expect that if it were randomly distributed along the population with the two other reasons I don't think that's right number one if we're just we're boarding to normal now that there's greater Society of societal acceptance right we're just say we're just a boring reverting to a normal base rate of transgender women wear while we're all the women in their 40s and 60s coming out as trans they should be coming up now is there time moment we should see tons of women in their forties and sixties and so on coming out as transgender we're not seeing that we're seeing the same population that gets involved in cutting demonic possession witchcraft Family Man convinces themselves there's a problem and there's one there's one last reason is that suicide rates are going up but if these women who were living under a prior-year supposedly these all these transgender these real transgender people were living under a more repressive regime are now just finding themselves to see what think the suicide rate would be going down with greater acceptance with its the rate of Trance of suicide among this popular frittata my girls in general is extraordinarily high this is just one part of the Mental Health crisis there in and second of all we know that the rate that these did these kids these trans identified kids have very high rates of suicide suicidal ideation it's it's really you know an area of real concern it was on your show that I really like this light bulb went on when I re-watched it because he talked about exactly that's connected to social media and he talked about on your show the huge rates were seeing and anxiety depression old among these same girls and you know putting it together will be so that means research and the other investigation I done I think it's really pretty clear that one more manifestation of these girls were we know or involved in a lot of cutting and all kinds of self-harm this is one form of self-harm for them so there are two so it was essentially say there is young teenagers that are confused and they're looking for something that makes them feel whole or something that makes him feel normal or something to give them some sort of an escape from this angst that they suffer from and you're thinking that turning trans is one of those Pathways that they gravitate towards but it might not necessarily be a good idea yeah that's exactly right if these girls were transitioning to boys and they were living great lives and their mental health was great like it is for so many at transgender adults I would never in this book that's a great story like the transgender adults have been helped by transition but these girls are not being by transition just universally I think it's a population yeah I mean that's that's what Lisa said Lisa Littman study showed but also to my investigation you know I hear from interview a lot of parents I also interviewed transgender Youth and they you know they'll tell you their anxieties a mess or depressions a mess transitions not cheering these girls they drop out of school they cut off their families they're not living a great life it's such a strange call strange in a negative way I mean it's your dealing with hormones in human body like you're you're taking a woman and you're injecting hormones into her body and you're saying that these exogenous hormones are what's going to fix her and I never I never understand that like this is my arguing about this like how do we know how do you know that that's what's going to do it and when you are doing that what damage I'm done year old woman and they say I have always wanted to be a man and I think I'm a man I think I was born in the wrong body but when you're going through this developmental cycle from 17 18 19 20 there is a lot of chaos a lot of hormonal chaos there's a lot of confusion I don't think there's anything specifically that you could point to that could say some sort of an intervention chemically some sort of if you do step in now and start injecting his body with male hormones is going to fix all your problems but yes really popular to do that on their own diagnosis so they're just going in the self-diagnosing nobody questions that we now have informed consent means you walk into Planned Parenthood you sign a waiver you decide you have gender dysphoria you walk out that day with testosterone Sumter is Transitional therapy session with get your breasts removed with no therapist note so you could be a confused 18 year old girl and walk into a Planned Parenthood self-diagnosing with no therapy at all and they'll prescribed testosterone and you can get your breast removed absolutely sign a form get your breasts removed from a surgeon surgeons some some of them require therapist note I interviewed him in my book some who did not and you know there are both kinds that's a big decision decision that you can't really come back from what what did The Surge of you talk to surgeons and what do they think they think never used them as well they say you don't destroy the biological function like I didn't become a doctor to destroy someone's biological function for you know something that they've decided they have without even you know any oversized her but but the ones who do it say look this population is really desperate for surgery it's a civil rights issue you know if I'm you know I'm giving them what they what will seem to bring them Comfort seems to bring them Comfort the problem is if there's no like follow to see how their mental health is afterwards do surgeons basically mechanic right they just remove the tires well yeah the problem is we're not cars right it's all connected so unfortunately very often the mental health deteriorate mean I talk to you at 1 young woman Desmond who's amazing and she she decided in high school she was trans he got celebrated everywhere her teachers her therapist told her yeah you're definitely a man you're supposed to be a man affirmed her everywhere she she got on testosterone and it caused uterine cramping which can happen it's one of the many bad side effects of testosterone she had to have a hysterectomy so 21 she wakes up with a hysterectomy and she realized this whole thing of in a giant mistake her mental health and not improved it on this was a huge like mistake and patchy and gone on and all of a sudden she didn't know what to do if there was no one cheering her on anymore why do you think people get to your for this decision America we have a weakness for anything that gets clogged and civil rights and part of that is very Noble and good obviously the Civil Rights Movement was extremely important in our country and and and extremely you know valuable and valorous but but now anything that could called a civil rights issue you can't question so I interview parents and they'll tell me they're almost all politically Progressive pay most the parents have called me or politically Progressive almost 5,000 of them now and they'll tell me like I support lgbtq but I really am not sure this is right for my daughter like I don't I don't think she's really gender dysphoric she's getting worse like what is going on here and I'll say to them would you take away her binder in a binder is that compression garment they wear to flatten their breasts and they'll say to me I can't do that I mean you know I support lgbtq and whatnot and cigarettes cuz cuz the binder will deform breast issue it can cause rib cracking it can cause shortness of breath you know squash and if you're in a big breasted woman is going to squash even harder I mean it's going to really try to flatten you to give you the physique you know the appearance of a male physique with a binder

twins more capital is the we are in Sweden than we do you do they don't even have an inheritance tax if there's no estate tax in Sweden Sweden Sweden but they decided to try it and of course it failed and so they had to start rolling it back once they saw all the damage that the welfare state in Sweden was creating so they started dialing it back and and that didn't know they've got a long way to haven't eradicated it completely by Joe Biden I mean we're going to go so far above Sweden wants to do with the income tax the corporate tax in the personal tax he wants to raise the corporate tax from 21 to 28 but then he wants to raise the dividend tax from 24 where it is now to about 40 something is I forget the exact amount but corporations are taxed twice right there tax when they earned the money and then when they distributed to the owners so you have to add up both but then he also wants to apply social security taxes to those dividends not just a Medicare taxes so he basically wants to take the corporate the effective corporate tax rate up from about 3% word is now to about 60% that's where he wants it the income of a business I mean you patiently on that business I made it your business or didn't happen more than all these corporations of the income is going to someone else and I wanted to stop you for a second but I wanted to hear that rent there's a connection that people make from Italy connect socialism to empathy socialism to kindness socialism to people that are less greedy socialism to people that are more interested in in a community this is this is coming from person like myself was no economic 86% of what I know about the economic world is from you so I'm an idiot I listen to people who are experts but when I think of the idea of community and a peck people out I think of the idea like what what's wrong with some socialist policies we have the fire department that's a socialist policy nobody wants to fire department to be only for people who have money we want the fire department to be for the community it doesn't matter if you have $0 that your house is on fire we're all going to pay for the fire department to come put it out we all have a vested interest in keeping your house from burning down and you dying in the whole Community from burning right we have these dreams hold on hold on a slow jams you're right you're 100% right but it's the idea behind it that comes from idealistic people and I'm putting myself in this category I am often naive and idealistic but also ruthless in my assessment of human character the big contradiction cuz I think there's a lot of people that really could do more than they're doing and they know they could they want to make excuses and it's part of the reason why throughout history people behind the certain people that if you had a tribe and you had to make it over this mountain and Bob is f****** lazy knees like you got to carry me bro my Bob we're both walking come on man Bob's not supposed to make it he's not supposed to make it we want them to make it but we don't want our kids to die we don't want her mom to starve we got to keep doing Bob you lazy f*** come on bro there's always been people like Bob and it's part of the problem with you so I'm a country I understand but imma give you that's what attracts people to socialist ideas it's just they're nice that they wanted what is you better choice socialist ideas are very appealing you didn't get that and that's why they're very popular with young people who don't know any better didn't have enough life experience this is understand I'm definitely not arguing with you but your argument versus people who disagree with his argument you have this but there's that there's an opportunity to make this bridge and for us to understand each other they don't understand that they actually backfire and make all the problems that they're trying to solve worse it isn't a problem with your lady department is in the part and you have a local Fire Department fire department is there to put out any fire anyhow right so everybody in the community benefits from having a fire department. They're just the one person everybody in the community we're talking about where the government takes money specifically for one person and gives it to somebody Are there specific benefit because they think they need it for whatever Problem whatever reason they need the money agreed this would be like Bob wanting money from you or lazy friend talking about I am all in favor of private charity I'm all in favor of people voluntarily helping out their fellow man and Americans will do that I mean we didn't do that we did that a lot more in the past Cleveland when he said that quote about the government not supporting the people there was a bill to appropriate $10,000 for some farmers in Texas who have been hit by a drought and Grover Cleveland veto the bill because she said look there's nothing in the Constitution that allows the government to give money to people just because Farmers got more than 10 times that amount of money inside the donations from Individual Americans who wanted to help out good money at a charitable giving that is great that is Noble yet but when you steal money from somebody else and give that money there's no nobility in that that's what you do with the money after you stealing stealing is wrong we need less taxes and more charitable donations and it's both possible and you would probably save money and we could figure out a way to distribute that money in an equitable way that you have control over so there's certainly Charities that you really feel strongly about like it cancer research axes and I was doing up I was paying about half of my money in taxes before I move to Puerto Rico and I didn't have any special tax breaks I paid about almost half my money in taxes do because half the money went to the government I had a lot less money that I could be terrible with I mean I have I had all the money I needed to take care of myself the money that was taken away from me by government was money that I would have invested to help grow the economy or maybe I could have used it the other benefit of when you allow more private sector charity private sector Charities are much more efficient because they really care about the people they're trying to help governments don't give a damn you when you have a government program that program exists the benefit the bureaucracy of the program so they squander the money and the last thing they want to do is is in poverty because then they there's no longer need for their program they want to perpetuate dependency do you go back to the the Great Society in the 1960s if you look at the declining poverty rates in the 1940s 1950s 1960s leading up to the 1960s when we had the all the Civil Rights and all this big war on poverty they should have allowed free market capitalism to keep lifting people out of poverty but the reason people are poor is because they're not earning enough money while how do people earn more money they become more productive how do you get more productive you acquire skills and you have Capital you eat your ear employer provide you with capital that makes your labor more productive and because you're more productive you can earn more money and this you out of poverty so it's free that was people out of poverty and so the smaller the government is the more capitalism we have more wealth we can create more employment opportunities we can create company just gets in the way can I put so what you're saying is there's an opportunity to be compassionate without like the demand for you being compassionate by the federal government and if people have to spend less money on the government there's opportunities for them to donate more money to charities when does the NBA better this would be a better way of managing our money and our charity in all these things yes it's much more efficient volunteering giving up when people give money voluntarily their own money they don't want it to be squandered they don't want it to be wasted at me whenever you give the Charities you always look at the chart and you want to know hate if I give you $1,000 how much of it is used in bureaucracy and how much goes to the recipient pay $0.10 to run the charity and actually $0.90 is going to go to the to the people that were trying to help actually goes to the people that need the money the rest of it is is absorbed in the bureaucracy there's no incentive to be efficient Charities have to be efficient or nobody will give them money but then the private charity wants to help people out so they no longer need the charity the government wants to keep people in poverty so they're in constant need of the charity cuz that way they can get their vote the government knows if they steal money from Peter and pay Paul that they'll always get Poulsbo and that's what they're concerned enough they want to keep people in trap and poverty so that they'll be reliable votes is it is that what they wanted to they just want to maintain the system that they have control over cuz if they just released every the public sector like a V8 or the private sector a big butt but if they everything from policing to the the water purification everything they do if they just went into instead of the government handling everything they just allowed it to the private sector what how would we manage whether or not they were doing the good of the people overall like that's what everybody's worried about whatever he's worried about his big business assuming this Monopoly big gigantic monolithic crushes everything before it and pollutes the rivers that's what we're worried about so the idea of the government stepping in for businesses to keep business from only growing and not growing with concern for the consequences of all the other people around it that's where everybody gets real suspicious right when you agree people just a tribute Sinister motives 2 businessman yet they think politicians are angels and just there to do the Lord's work I mean there's just as many greedy people who go into Politics as it going to business in fact probably more but there's a big difference see I have protection because if a greedy person goes in the private business is green can only help me write because the way of business grows and gets bigger is by selling more products and services why would I buy those products and services I have to think they're better than the products or services that some other businesses offering me and I have to Value those goods and services more than the money I'm voluntarily exchanging to get the rugged beauty of the free market is that you have all these businesses who made me Greenie competing with one another to best satisfy my desires my needs to make me happy and if they don't make me happy if they can't satisfy my disease they say they have to woo me and seduce me to get my business so I don't have to be worried about a greedy businessman who wants to make money because he can only make money by making my life better on the other hand you take a greedy person and you give them the power of government they can make my life miserable and they just do to me whatever they want so where you have to fear greed and power is when it's in government working damn you having a private sector with the help you going to say well what if there's a criminal what if somebody is stealing my money violin the wall and we need government to protect me from thieves good businessman that are honestly convincing me without father deception but are being honest and I'm buying a product doesn't help me violin the wall and we need government to protect me from thieves but businessman that are honestly convincing me without fraud or deception but are being honest and I'm buying a product order green doesn't help me

let's get into that so you you think that Biden has a very high likelihood of when we were here we are let's just too if people come upon this in the future today is the 14th 14th of July and we're few months away from the election you feel like it looks like Biden is moving into the direction of eventually winning change that direction between now and election day and I think it's going to be very challenging maybe his best opportunity is going to be the debates we'll see I don't think I'm going to have a big problem or for Trump and the first time and and so everybody who thinks there should be a woman president I actually agree right now and that's what we should have left but then you can't vote for the president and you don't have any member of Congress you don't have to send her so being in Puerto Rico I have no representation in Congress and I can't vote for president but the trade-off is I don't have to pay the taxes my right to vote for the loser is is not much of a sacrifice but I would still be living in Connecticut and it would be a total waste of my vote to vote for Trump because he has no chance of winning Connecticut so I would vote for Jorgensen even though I know she can't win I would rather at least give her a vote of support because I wouldn't be wasting my boat because bikenetic or Trump and I was one of the few people who was in the media saying that I thought Trump had a real good shot at winning I didn't know it was in the bag but I thought that he was more likely to win and lose that the Obama administration had been telling her that Wall Street has been telling about how we had a real recovery I knew that we had a bubble inflated by the Federal Reserve and that beneath that bubble where in a you can see the stock market at record highs and he's phony unemployment numbers I knew laid a weak economy and Trump do that too and Trump spoke to the Forgotten men and women of this bubble economy and his message really resonated about how we were former South that are industrial might had to Cade we had all these big trade deficits that the stock market was a bubble all the numbers were fake the real unemployment number rate wasn't 5% but 20% 30% 40% and then he was a non-politician he was going to clean house he was going to drain the swamp he was going to put politics aside make America great again and that message resonated with a lot of people in a lot of those people were named maybe afraid to be honest with the pollsters because they didn't want to admit that they were going to vote for This Racist misogynist or whoever the media was portraying him so I thought he could win is bigger than ever even before coded all he did was nurturing the bubble that he inherited from from Obama and helped make it get bigger he became a cheerleader for the stock market and he didn't care it was a bubble all of a sudden history of the world the greatest economy ever and none of that was true and so you have the same people who voted for Trump thinking that he would shake things up thinking that he would throw a monkey wrench in the system and make their lives better and better they're worse do swing voters those blue collar Reagan democrats in the Rust Belt who decided they had nothing to lose and said to take a chance on Trump why should they vote for him again I mean now they may take a chance on represent what do you think that he was deceptive when he was running or do you think the influences once he got into office or greater than anticipated what what do you think happened really wanted to shrink government and media campaign about getting rid of Department of Education Department of energy that is the important thing that you have to recognize is that government spending is Taxation and what happened in government spending under Trump even before it went through the moon with covid-19 huge increases in government spending caught income taxes but the income tax is just one way the government pays for spending because all government spending has to be paid for by the public one way or another we don't get any government for free government money so every dime they spend represents taxation in some form and what they've been doing is they've been printing money at the Federal Reserve print money and it back right now the Federal Reserve is printing about 55 cents out of every Federal dollar that Spencer War money is being printed and spent been collected in taxation but all that printed all that spending that is being paid for by printing past we don't get that for free there is a cost see when the government takes our money through an income tax they take my money that I earn and they give it to somebody else who didn't earn it if the government doesn't take it from me they just print money and they handed to somebody else who didn't earn it and didn't do any work and produce any Goods or provide any Services they just gotten money from the government prevented prices from going down and so now my purchasing power has been diminished and so either the government takes your money through an income tax or sales tax or something or they take your purchasing power through an inflation tax and so that's what Trump decided to do to pay for government through inflation rather than taxation but we know from history is that is the most expensive way to pay for government and in fact I have a lot of access they have a lot of debt where they not Consumer Debt like on a credit card but where they borrow money to accumulate income-producing property to buy companies stocks things like that and so inflation helps those people where did you give you have debt to buy asset inflation wipes out your dead but if you're just saving money and working for a living and getting a paycheck the inflation tax is very heavy on You Higher all the talk about all these big government programs and we'll talk about that that he wants to pay for by taxing the rich the rich are going to pay those taxes most of the money is going to come from the poor in the middle class bring the inflation tax but getting back to you know where I went wrong very small government government was state federal and local maybe it was 5% of GDP we didn't have an income tax corporate or personal we didn't have social security we didn't have a minimum wage all kinds of strides the greatest economy in the history of the world was produced from the freest people in history the world which was the United States well Trump wanted makeamericagreatagain to do that would be so that they can be used again but the problem is once you're there you can't cut anything unless you're willing to stand up to all the politicians in the special interest groups and apparently Trump wasn't willing to do that I mean Trump when he when he got into office became a politician or maybe he was one when he ran for office but he was more concerned about getting re-elected which is a shame but she probably won't be used the bully pulpit and used his office right away to level with the American public and tell them the government is too big and and and spending needs to be cut including things like Social Security and Medicare and all these sacred cows that nobody would Gwar Trump should have been the guy to do it then you should have said the buck stops with me I don't care if I don't have a second term and he should have be towed all of those bills that he sign he never should have agreed to allow the ceiling to go up 120 trillion so we've already added 6 and a half trillion since he became president I would not have allowed the debt-ceiling to go up at all not one nickel and I would have forced the government to cut government spending and that's what you should have done Puerto Rican president played my brother in an episode of Newsradio really yeah she played my older brother was a priest to beat us up at Kaplan show that was the 1970s

you are a person who was advising a president or Governor how to fix an economically disabled Community if you have a community that's always had a history of poverty and crime and drug use and gang you send these communities like what would you do like how do you use this idea of like capitalism to fix something that clearly requires some charity and they require first of all first of all weekend we can stop making the problem worse we can decriminalize drugs in end the war on drugs just like the war on poverty it's backfired the War on Drugs is a failure right people in a free Society people have a right to to consume what they want to catch the course they want to do drugs let him do drugs turn into just as bad but the problem is when you when you have the war on drugs and you end and you make it a crime now you incentivize criminal activity because whenever something is illegal it's much more expensive than it would be if it were legal and now you create this huge profit opportunity for criminals to come in and fill that the man because people still want the drugs they just can't buy them legally through a reputable Source the only way they can get them is illegally or criminal so this is your best of what we've created in Mexico the best example that right and then what you do is you increase the cost of the illegal drugs let's say there's a heroin addict and now heroin is illegal and so heroin is very expensive well where is this heroin addict going to get the money to buy the hell he goes out and steals I mean most of the robbery is committed by drug addicts legal it would be much cheaper and they wouldn't have to steal of course I do other people do it to support their habit when you have heroin are you sure you want to use this stuff with this is going to really hurt you and you really want to become an addict movies watch what happens to you I mean most people probably wouldn't necessarily make that decision if they were confronted with a lot of evidence that shows why it's a very destructive way to live your life because they don't have the skills or they can true enough money they're not productive enough to generate income above the poverty line if you have people who are poor way to make them less poor is to increase their productivity One Way obviously is through education when they're young one for the benefit of the bureaucracy of the school district teachers unions I want free enterprise I want vouchers or private schools to compete for educational dollars just the way you do the cell phone companies are competing they want me to buy their cell phone we got these poor kids trapeze fail government schools they waste their time they learn nothing why these kids graduate they're not even literate I mean they can't even do basic basic arithmetic and he has a seven-year-old son and I kids going to school right now like how do you fix that right now by open he. He doesn't get an education cuz he can't afford. MIT tuition in first or second grade is probably going to be less than in high school because in order to teach a second grader the teacher doesn't happen know as much as a teacher needs to know the teacher 10th grader so you wouldn't have to pay a second grade teacher as much as a tenth grade teacher or a good teacher whether they're teaching a first grader or High School it's a crazy crackpots system but only the government could devise and it's only because I have a captive audience with people the customers don't have a choice and the parents aren't even involved If the parents were actually writing a check and paying for the education they would make sure the kids did the homework they would make sure they were getting their money's work when you get it for free I mean you just need to take it for granted we need real education for the kids that can benefit from it we need to get rid of the minimum wage law we need to get rid of the minimum wage law and all sorts of Occupational Licensing Laws and other things that the government does that prevent people from from getting jobs are starting businesses the government is creating all sorts of barriers artificial barriers that would not exist absolute government

do you think that first of all we had to do something to stop the spread of covid-19 do you think great yes I agree but we are going to have to bail anybody out we have a problem we can't kind of hear each other and you're not wearing headphones so it's it's I got a earpiece okay okay there's a little bit of a delay to just let me this is one of the reasons why stress it's so much better to do these things in person and I understand that it's impossible for you to do that right now when you have a situation like covid-19 and these medical experts say hey we've got to do something we've got to shut down most of what we do we've got to shut down a lot of businesses we going to shut down schools and make things remotely there's going to be a 6 where this going to be a lot of people that are not going to be able to work but we want to keep these businesses alive this is a very unique situation and this is not like any situation we've ever faced in my lifetime what do you think could have been done that would have been a better solution than what the government did in terms of bail out in terms of telling people to stay home like what could have been done any money currently has money it takes from the people one way or another by Grover Cleveland who is the president in the late 19th century he was quoted a good quality said while the people must support the government the government should never support the people and so I agree let's say we have to shut down the economy temporarily should have enough savings average American has lots of money in the bank they weren't loaded up with that didn't have credit card debt they didn't have student car loans they weren't they were solvent even after a Great Depression they were solid we lived in a bubble economy everybody was paycheck-to-paycheck nobody had anything businesses couldn't survive stop couldn't pay the rent if they didn't get their salary so the fact that we were so ill-prepared for rainy day is because we had no rainy day fun you should have been able to deal with this on her own right now getting hold of me from the run is now we we we basically lockdown somewhere around March we're we're four and a half months in or four months in now that's a long rainy day for months is a third of a year this very do human beings that have enough money to last for months I'm sure you do and I do but most folks out there listening don't have enough money to live and feed their families and pay their mortgage or pay their rent and in and pay the car payment for 4 months that's a long f****** time but they're going to end up suffering much more in a year or two or three as a result of the massive inflation that has been Unleashed tube to finance all the bailouts in the stimulant don't you agree that it's it's a good idea to do something just to keep everyone alive just to keep businesses alive just to keep people in their homes just to keep abreast of all first of all a lot of the businesses should have failed even before I mean the FED has been keeping a lot of businesses afloat Lifeline but these businesses are damaging Yurconic see businesses that are not profitable in a free-market should shut down okay because let's talk about my business I'm in the business of comedy comedy clubs are suffering terribly right now because his very few states that are allowing people to go out wear masks socially distance and go to Comedy Club LA is not allowing any of that they haven't since March The Comedy Store which is my home has been shut down March all these clubs have been shut down all across the country through no fault of their own it's not like you see it doesn't it does not sound that it's not their fault I understand anything wrong it's the state of California if the state of California is going to order business is shut down and then the state of California wants to provide some kind of relief we can't just use the Federal Reserve is a piggy bank that the Federal Reserve pure is going to do more damage in the coronavirus disease and I think if the state's knew that they would have to bear The Economic Consequences of their own decision-making they would do a better cost-benefit analysis on what they shut down and how they do it right right now every state u.s. government do we don't care if we shut down businesses because they're going to get these PPP grants from the government but if the federal government decision I didn't show last few times this is going to be much worse we are compounding the mistakes in the past with much bigger mistakes and if you think it's bad now with the civil unrest it's going to get a lot worse when there's nothing there's no food or predicting the bubble of commercial real estate in a lot of other issues what what do you think is different about that situation and how how much is that compound what we're dealing with currently obviously the coronavirus has made the problem worse for commercial real estate collecting any rent so you want a default and so now your landlord's not getting paid and he might have a mortgage and now he can't pay because he's not getting rent you got all these Office Buildings were a lot of offices now like my company almost all my people are working from home now I mean I got some people to come into the office on Rancho that was already happening you know you had we work that blew off and they had rented all this space that was now you know on the market for sublease but all this was inflated by the FED keeping interest rates artificially low the prop up these bubbles made that real estate bubble very very big and so now it's going to be when it popped getting a little bit but you make the Day of Reckoning much worse cuz now you have additional mistakes that you need to reckon with I understand so it's essentially like a pull off the Band-Aid situation and we we we have to have a healing moment you have to let things cool apps that need to collapse that should have been done a long time ago because of mismanagement where did the first play yes free market never would have screwed us screwed us up this much it was government interference in the free market that's why you know capitalism gets a bad name know that's why you know we talked about earlier podcast blame the government for providing the bailout for making them available when the Federal Reserve for funding all this and inflating the bubble but you're the interesting thing I tried to do that today if I try to go to one of these protests one of these black lives matter protest the loss of Civility and Justina 10 years well it's it's not just a loss of Civility it's a lot of opportunity and the loss of faith in the system and the future if we stay on the same path that's part of the problem it's the people don't believe that if we keep going the way we are going to things will work out in an equitable fair and balanced way and that's where young people today too when I went back to America in 1940 was to show that the American middle class was real strong they could afford to pay for World War II World War II because Americans have the capacity to pay back what they borrowed to fight the war we don't have that capacity now I mean the debts never going to go down the Jets going to keep on Rising rising Rising until the dollar implodes see that is the real crisis that we're headed for it's going to be a collapse in the value of the dog because the world is no longer going to accept US dollars as the reserve currency see that's the unique privilege that we've enjoyed for several Generations now and that we've been abused to the point where we're going to lose it to right now we're able to print money and we use that money we print to buy all sorts of stuff free Windows crate money is here you go and they send us stuff and then to make it even better for us they take the money that we send them the paper and they loan it right back to us at very low rates of interest mortgage back securities you're never going to be brought under control that we're going to have to Infinity 0% interest rates in perpetuity but none of that printed money adds any purchasing power they don't grow any food they don't produce any products nothing they just bring money if the government gives money to people they will be able to buy things people still are making things but now but when the Dollar's value collapses you can't keep printing trillions and trillions of dollars and expect the dollars not to lose purchasing power all that does is that allows us to divvy up what we produce right you have all these Americans now who used to be working doing something right they were helping to produce a product they were providing a service and now they're just at home collecting a check so they're getting money for nothing as an economic expert what would you have done differently if you could have advised this government and we were let's let's go back to March when everything was shutting down what would you have advised differently to be responsible for their own policy in what what you want to do and you pay for it and if you think that certain businesses or individuals need to get money then the state will provide it based on local taxpayers but what I would have done on the federal level is I would have dramatically cut government spending is a drain on the private sector it's a drag on the economy it's the government taking resources away from the private sector where they would be used efficiently and Spa what would you have what were you when you say lighten the burden what would you have cut and how would you do that when you think about all the different aspects of the government that are essential things that need to be in place what would you have cut most of the government money is is transfer payments where the government takes money from one person and get it to somebody else I mean the government shouldn't be doing that that's not why we have a government America to secure our rights transfer payments and just hands it to somebody else or now through inflation the government just prints money and gives it to people that it thinks needs it Play Everybody Wants to brag about what a complete fraud this was I said from day one this would be a cesspool of Fraud and we found out last week that there are 600 approximately hedge funds private Equity Funds asset management companies that got PPP loans do you stop right there that most people don't know that these hedge funds got this money most people think this money went out to American businesses to keep these businesses from collapsing cuz we need restaurants we need you know movie theaters and all these all these various American businesses that we assume this money went to prevent from collapsing explain that please according to the small business administration as long as the money you asked for was less than 2 million didn't ask any question because in theory you were supposed to need the money right you are supposed to have some disruption like if you run a restaurant and your restaurant shut down the workers will give you some money to pay your workers but a company like mine Mike I have two or three companies I could have taken money from and I didn't but you look at my I didn't stop managing your money because a cold I mean we just keep on managing it and we keep on billing for our Feedly bill every quarter we weren't even shut down off the even in Puerto Rico where they were shutting down everything I mean I was considered an essential Business Financial Services so call me on the phone and so there's no physical contact isn't any disruption all of the revenues at the hedge funds were getting at the asset management companies all that Revenue continued unabated not a single job was in jeopardy to make a profit even bigger on top of the fact that the Federal Reserve print it all this money which inflated asset prices we charge fees on those assets and so is the bed inflates assets Wall Street has inflated feeds we make more might was a double bailout for Lobby's Wall Street firms but the government is actually giving companies giving money to companies that need it right that otherwise would have fired that workers look I don't know what the future demand for restaurants and bars in theaters is going to be I personally believe that demand is going to be diminished for a long time it's not just a temporary thing I don't think it's going to come back to the way it was especially since the way it was a bubble that's what people don't get they say we want to go back to the way it was before are savings again so there's going to be less demand for restaurant is going to be less demand for a lot of things we have to let these companies downsize look at the airlines Americans are going to be for many many years to the extent that the government prevents businesses from laying off workers that really should be laid off they ultimately compromised by Billy those businesses and in the long run they may end up putting people out of business it was stayed in business maybe they maybe somebody had a hundred employees and maybe they could have downsized employees would have a job but instead when you say hedge funds were able to receive PPE and you're saying that they did so while they were still earning profits and there wasn't any diminishment of their income why were they able to receive ppppp my business was affected I mean people work at home that used to work in the office but you had a you had to basically testifier certify that the money was necessary to support the operations of your business which promotes in these forms it wasn't that you had no other source of capital which again he were lying but they said if you ask for less than 2 million dollars do they actually say that or non-recourse there's no collateral for a lot of businesses that were going to fail anyway and that we're going to lay off all their workers took the money they're still going to lay off all their worker but now they're not going to have to pay the money back because they're going to bankrupt their business and once your business is bankrupt even though you fire all your workers assume that you're filing an honest claim right disco saying it if you if you ask for more than 2 million dollars we're going to vet the claim and we're going to take a look at your situation but it said on the small business administration that will just assume you're being honest right so if you ask for less than 2 million everybody tries to qualify like just like the unemployment benefits this crazy deal with the unemployment benefits you have a lot of people now who are being paid twice as much not to work as they were learning when they were working now you create that kind of incentive to go back to work and $15 an hour $20 an hour chances are you don't love your job I mean you're not working because you enjoy what you're doing you're working because you need the money you need to pay the bills well if you can make the same amount of money or more without working I mean who's not going to go for that I mean I don't blame anybody for not wanting to work if the government is paying you more not to work the way your boss was paying you to work and of course you know there's more than just working you have to get up in the morning you got to fight traffic you got other expenses maybe I got to put your kids in daycare and you got laundry to dry clean your clothes women women could spend an hour in the morning doing their hair doing makeup but they got to do all that and at all that the commute time I mean so there's a big cost of working and then of course you give up all your leisure when you're at work and can't have fun the government now has create a situation where people are getting paid to have fun so I mean how do you end that what politician is now going to take this away

there's plenty of people that are bidding against me for those same workers right and so I have to pay the market rate I can't just under pay them they'll go work someplace else so just think there should be a minimum wage employment opportunities that they want to accept see the minimum wage doesn't hurt businesses it hurts individuals that have low skills they are or opposing their wage hikes they always say I was going to hurt businesses because you know it's going to increase their labor cost find ways to do without workers they Outsource at they think they hire people in other countries the minimum wage law hurts the most low-skilled people and they tend to be young people teenagers minorities we had all these laws it was actually lower because they got disproportionately impacted by the minimum wage law which prices amount of work I mean basically your lungs to your man as an experiment like maybe a town or city well first of all we had no minimum wage before was implemented and we had much lower rates of unemployment real unemployment so it sounds good but all you do is you destroy jobs and you destroy employment opportunities but their countries like Singapore for example has no minimum wage no Singapore weird minimum but it's no it's not the same as is ours I feel like you could be a minimum wage and we still hold the same values that you're talking about in terms of competition to keep people from getting f****** s***** with their employees have you ever seen an employer like yelder employees or like being like one of those corporate Gathering situations where someone has a lot of control over their employees now imagine if that guy was making all the money and he was only Wendy's employees a dollar-an-hour and making them like this and nobody will offer you're free to work for yourself nobody forces anybody to accept the job everybody can start their own business everybody can be self-employed right so you don't think your boss is paying you what your worth then quit and start your own business completely but couldn't we just say that there's a level of paint if you make someone work 40 hours a week and they don't have enough money for food or shelter after 40 hours of could we say that maybe that is not a good level like meatless switches as a community so everybody agrees we're all competing but let's let's make it so that if someone is under your employment it's a human being and they're doing 40 hours of work every week they should have enough money for food and shelter that seems reasonable as a community I know what you're saying and turns I know what you're saying from like this economic standpoint I know what you're saying like let you free market capitalism let it ride get paid what you're worth and if you don't feel like you're getting paid enough quit I understand what you're saying but wouldn't be in general if you don't have any skills right if the most you're able to earn at your job if you don't have any skills stop it for the owner of the business because that businessman is taking a lot of risk is burying the potential for losing money has to be a businessman is not going to hire somebody if they're not adding value to the business so if somebody can add $5 in value to my business I'm not going to Pam 725 an hour because I'm going to lose 225 for every hour that person works so the only way I can hire somebody who is providing $5 worth of if I can pay him $4 and I can make a dollar for every hour he works on the business is not there to lose money are there to make money so let's say you're a young kid and you can only provide $5 worth of value and so you get a job for $4 and your employer make you so f****** our off of you chances are you don't have a family you're young you're living with your parents you don't have rent you don't have important is the work experience having that job developing some skills getting your foot in the door step on that first ladder of the job the run at the job ladder so that by the time you're 30 and you're ready to settle down and get married and have kids you now increased your skills to the point that you can make $50 an hour where you can afford to support a family if you try to tell a business that you need to pay somebody who has no skill and as minimally conomic value if you have to pay that person enough so they can support a family nobody's going to hire that person all you're doing is pricing those people out of the job so it's really good to say it's not right if somebody is working and only making $10 an hour they can support a family it's not the employer's responsibility it's not his fault that he's hiring somebody that doesn't have a lot of skills and if you impose that minimum wage all you're doing is making it impossible for this guy to get a job it's really what the minimum wage law is it makes it illegal for you to work unless you have enough a certain amount of productivity so if the minimum wage is $15 an hour what that means is if you only have $10 an hour for the kitty you can't work that you have to turn down every offer of employment you get if someone offers you $10 $12 you can accept those jobs even if even if you think that that's the beginning on the road to higher wages in the future there, so don't you can accept that unless you can find somebody who will pay you $15 an hour it is illegal for you to have a job and that is not pretty, policy that is and it's not even compassionate cuz now you've taken away all the honest ways that somebody can make a living in the end up bringing the car and a lot of times if you only provide $10 worth of value to the company do they pay you $15 and I agree with you I see what you're saying I see what you're saying you're making me think about it in a different way for sure I think a lot of people would say well if they're really only providing $10 worth of value do you really need that person. and the reason for this is because they replace the human beings out of the market you know what a horrible about this for all of us is when you when you do do that and you know you you're dealing with these goddamn computers it's like we're we're losing part of our connection when it comes to doing business we're doing I like if I do business with a company I like to be able to call them up I like the I'd love it if there's a thing when I'm when I'm doing something I'd like to make contact with the person if everything done through automated system is getting weirder and weirder for us more more original member when when heat when he goes back to 1955 the first time and he sees that car pull into a gas station and like 5 people to send out the car and start washing the windows and the tires do know what happened to all those people get working at gas station deliver groceries are delivered Pizza I worked in the shoe store I had all kinds of jobs in high school. You know the probably kids don't have those opportunities today they just think they know they think they can get going back to the gas station because I used to know what happens when you let kids pump gas there's some weirdos got a highly flammable fluid next to a piece of your property and they get to stick it in the bag but I think if we didn't have minimum wage you have a lot more kids working may sleep or tips I need to tip that was they're working on cars and they would get a free education auto mechanic and actually learn a trade have you heard some of his guys and me we have more auto mechanics I get a skill some of these guys would end up as good to allow young people that have employment opportunities not to price them out of the market by just by banding a minimum wage in the minimum wage benefits high-skilled workers and unions bite by eliminating competition with younger you know lower-skilled forcing employers to hire high-skill people instead of a more numerous the number of Lois kill people. That's what happened have you ever seen the movie The Hustler with Paul Newman Jackie Gleason Paul Newman pulls into a gas station and he tells the guy check the air in tires check the oil do they all this and the guy filling up mister they go out there and they have like they do all kinds of s*** for you it's not just as simple as they pump your gas they pump your gas check your tires checked your fluids they do everything but it was left people at the park at 2 those were those cars were bulshit postcards like you had to check the air you had to check the tires it was bleeding a oil but it's just interesting to see the difference get rid of all the workers anyway ultimately all these fast food restaurants are so I could be anybody there they're all going to look like self-serve gas stations

I'd like you have you have a government let's say you know he if you want to be a florist by all these states they have licenses you have to get a license to sell flowers why why can't I just buy flowers from whoever I want I mean what's the worst thing that can happen to me I buy flowers from a guy that doesn't know what he's doing but we make it a lot harder there's all kinds of regulations and rules and permits just let people go into business I mean for people can start business as if we didn't make it so expensive and so hard and if they can flourish flourish in the marketplace if they can find customers been great if they're no good at what they do they're not going to have any customers you feel like this applies to everything this applies to all businesses all the time I mean pretty much I mean we don't need government having you certifications I mean the private sector is certainly capable at this point is is a consideration social media and holding people accountable like holding businesses accountable for their actions and like he is a different world in terms of like the ability to like alert consumers as to what's good and what's bad is a different world when it comes to that kind of thing but people especially now with the internet consumer reports that go out and rateliff looking what happens look at the banks by the banks are completely regulated by the government right everybody who opens up a bank account knows that the government is guaranteeing their deposit that wasn't always the case that the deposit Insurance didn't start until the 1930s because of the bank failures in the Great Depression way more banks that we have now now we just have these massive Banks before the government got involved we had a very very competitive market and get lots of little Banks out there taking deposits making loans to entrepreneurs to start business as an employee people not no funding Wall Street Banks before you put your money in a bank you and do a little research just like you do research now before you buy a car if you try to figure out which is the best bank for my money which bank is the safest which bank is in here repeat on reputation on honesty and I'm not being aggressive and they knew that if they if they made bad loans and they went bank and something happened nobody would bail them out the government bail them out their deposit would lose money so we had a very sound banking system back then today is very unsound the banks are doing all sorts of Reckless things with their deposits because no one gives a damn nobody cares what the bank does with their money once they deposit it because government guarantees deposit One bank is just as good as another I'm just going to put it in whatever bank is closest to me a free market and and now we have a banking system that is completely you know Reckless spell because it's so big why is it so big because the government ensure their deposits and allowed them to get this big and allow them to have access to all this cheap money from the Federal Reserve I mean we won't even have a vibrant competitive banking system if the government got all the way we don't need the government did the banks are much more Reckless and much more clock now because of government then we had free market forces why is a free-market guy out there as I said if you have Jorgensen the libertarian candidate she'll save some of this stuff I'm sure there's various discussions about how we should do things economically moving for right here it from a bunch of different experts I don't hear your perspective your perspective is very listen honest and some people would say maybe you're not considering the people that really don't even have an opportunity to get into the system and compete they'll be held down that we put into this while I'm not being rude get a power position in government because we're not the whole into a special interest you have any special interest better beating off the public trough you're so much corporate welfare in this country right now which is not and so they're not going to find candidates that want to take away their corporate welfare a quote that he ran for Libertarian president you said the government is great at crippling you and then handing you a crotch and saying you see without me you could walk so so many people have been crippled and they think they need that government Krutch I don't want them to be crippled I want them to walk on their own right to be free in July just recently and you do you celebrate America it means to be an American people just don't appreciate what truly America was all about right it's about it's about Liberty and individual opportunity it's about being left alone from government and being able to achieve all that you can achieve without anybody standing in your way without anybody erecting a roadblock and we created government in America that gave us some privileges people and we seen in some of our sovereignty to a government the secure and protect our rights and that's it and that's what made Americans rugged individuals right with folded or begging for government it wasn't it wasn't about trying to get free stuff from the government I mean look at all these kids now where they want Free Housing guaranteed jobs that's not what America was about like all of my grandparents by all for my grandparents came to this country broke barely spoke any English some of them were teenagers from poor countries and they came to America they had no welfare no food stamps no minimum wage they didn't didn't want anything from the government they came to America because they could be free of government they left governments that existed in Europe to have American freedom because that that's what it meant to be an American and it was unique and we created the wealthiest Society in the history of the world because of the freedom that was uniquely American so that's what we need to restore that's all is to be free not to try to get the government to steal stuff from our neighbors because we think we're entitled to it Asia Society in the history of the world because of the freedom that was uniquely American so that's what we need to restore that's all it is is is is to be free not to try to get the government to steal stuff from our neighbors because we think we're entitled to it

talk about student loans but I think it's right now what are the big political issues especially among the left right they want to forgive the student loans and they want to make college free like a big thing with all this debt and it's it's bad which I agree it's a terrible situation but what the left doesn't want to accept responsibility for creating the situation in the first place it is it once upon a time people didn't borrow money go to college nobody borrowed my to go to call my father went to college and his parents were poor and lower-middle-class and he worked his way through school which is what most people did you work your way through school so here's what happened around the 1960s once the 18 year olds could vote you should go to school and enjoy yourself and we're going to make it possible for you to borrow money to go to school by guaranteeing the loans because normally the bank wouldn't lend you any money cuz you have no credit history I have no assets job you just pay back the money and it sounded like a great deal hey I want to party now I don't want to work and have a good time when I get my college degree and I'm making a lot more money I'll be no problem to pay back alone so that's how it all started for banks to make loans to kids with no ass no credit history once the college's saw that all these kids can borrow money to go to go to college this is great I was going to raise prices to all the sudden tuition starting off I mean for a long time they started jacking up prices and then of course the university started competing who's got the best Tunisian who's got the best in all kinds of other incentives and then everything became bloated and they kept raising their prices and then in order to get the boats of the students the government kept raising the limits on how much loans they would guarantee so it became a self-perpetuating cycle where the more money the government guarantee that the students can borrow Florida colleges could charge intuition skyrocketing and then became students if there were no student loans at all if the government just said no more student loans all of a sudden the colleges would be oh my God we need to cut costs otherwise we'll have no customers nobody can afford to go without these loans and they would cut costs they would start looking they would they would streamline their business like everybody else I mean any business that could charge whatever the hell they wanted because the government could borrow the money right if you had a restaurant where the government was going to guarantee did the pay the bill at everybody who died in there I mean she could charge her ever wanted hamburgers $1,000 other governments are paying with their own money to keep the cost down and this whole situation has been going on for so long that it's just now how it they do business Harry Harry Brown crippled you and then give you a crutch you're free, you're not being made in college so expensive you're freaking me out man Jesus Christ free kids do school online for $40,000 a year was that with you at this point is a racket I mean most people will never recoup the cost of a college degree I mean the colleges are out there perpetuating this myth right that you know going to colleges your ticket to success garwyn if you if you don't go. Did I mention the video on your show the podcast last time I was down on Bourbon Street in New Orleans and I was interviewing all the people there that we're working that have college degrees but we're doing menial jobs you have a bartending downstairs and stripped Cubs pedicab drivers Frozen self-help you can educate yourself you don't need to buy this over by certificate that says that you graduated from some college to prove that you're confident I mean it it doesn't even prove anything the government did two things they made a college degree very expensive and then they made it practically worthless I meant something in the marketplace now since everybody goes to school because it's you know you got the money for the government everybody's got a college degree that mean nothing so now you got to get a master's degree to get a PhD baby going to college when they didn't even go to highschool did billionaires who dropped out of grammar school but today with the internet it should be even easier for people that it ever was because one of the things that the college's had is they had them that had the library's but they had all the books so if you wanted to get access to these books books of crazy it's such a good point professors write these books and they and they force the kids to buy these books paying $100 for a textbook is ridiculous it is a racket and it's also if you come out against this educational racket oh you're bad person you're anti-education I'm not a bad person I care about the kids who are getting ripped off I'm not a bad person I care about the kids we're getting ripped off we're getting a Doctrine and not educated and were being saddled with a mountain of debt solution is free education

I got to go there more I was starting to come and went back to you when I sit up in the back gag 83-84 I don't know that's crazy because 86 he was famous what happens this so he'd already been TWP for Mitzi to watch but I had set up the I told her to watch him I met him in Houston and he was kicked out of the comedy Workshop in Houston because of shity would say on stage cuz he had been running his you know tent show of Faith healing with his brother Bill and they would they told me Supergirl f***** stories about s*** they would do it was a bit charlatan and a bit try to help people but also talking about Jesus quite a bit and he he was cynical about it but also very confused very conflicted about it about what what is it cuz he's dying on the ground to post Italy he looked up at the sky and was talking to God as what Bill tells us when I met him calabozos call about was their car was there that's a whole complicated non non story right now cuz that's a very f****** heavy so what happened was he shows me he posted shows me this telephone pole and he had put a picture of himself on it and he kept putting up that kept taking that he was in the Houston Chronicle on the front page of the Arts entertainment and he dressed himself cuz they banned from the club in a diaper and a crown of thorns and blood coming from the crown of thorns down his face with his eyes rolled back in his head and said that he had been persecuted just like Jesus from playing The Comedy Works but it's pretty f****** heavy you know and he admitted quite a name for himself and had a following there when I don't know what to do the man I want to come out to LA and I want to help you out in the last stop in Houston River Oaks yeah I liked it remember dessert first Dead air what happened what happens to us am I sat next to metiner Booth he got on stage and he did the whole bit before he had done the young comedian show that I was on with the Rowdy did Ronnie's first young comedian show and it was whole thing about you know that the kid in that went over the age of those World Vision commercials with a starving kid and Lena's fan most famous one of the most famous things that any comedians done which was just a truism which is the cameraman can give them the sandwich starving kid get out of the desert at a university and he was sitting here talking to me and he said that the best comedy always punches up because there was a time of really believe that nonsense like that there was a formula to Comedy in that comedy should have had attack the large power structures and that the small people should be you know elevated by, this is he sitting here telling me this Starving Children to pay money to be with the freshest male corpse those are two bits where you punching down as low as you can someone's dad died and his guys f****** them and Kennedy was having sex with his wife from behind and it goes this is what happened to my marriage and she says I'm trying to f*** her and he's like she's like we got to fix the fence he needs a new coat of paint qualify for that kind of Comedy because you he was short and he was fat and he was going bald and wore a beret and won the Broncos and he was hanging out with all the rock and roll and pouring people Shadows but that was Sam has a sweetie then so when you see him then I mean when you go on stage he's that was part of why I worked you know it wasn't like if he was John Mulaney and he had that act not handsome and slim that you know know that pull off right you had to be over he told me a story where he had been I was going to tell her but it's f****** weird so that they're at the healing people so this there in some godforsaken place I don't know where and he goes come up here and we're going to we're going to heal you and a 7ft tall guy with drawstring pants and a t-shirt he was said he was like Lennie From Mice and Men there was he was mentally impaired he said he was going to and he was going to do the whole thing with him and get out the spirit and all that and as you guys coming up he's runs up to the stage and he's so tall he hits his head on a beam and he splits his head open but he doesn't fall down build his brother will tell you the story and the guys pants fall down and he had the biggest dick in this world and to his head is gushing blood and his dick is swinging at he's going to Hopewell bad it's horrific Lee up cetak and the way I've been told me I don't know if these stories whisper down the lane is that they went back to the same place after a while the guy came back and he had some other mishap I don't want to say he hit his head again but he fell he healed until you've got a giant cock maybe it's a blessing and a curse I don't know it's probably a few gals that hit him up after that but drawstring pants means there's not a lot of cleanliness down in the junk make that sound again I can't I can't and I can't roll my R's either and how quickly pop was after that set like a week later Rodney came in to see him and I'd known Rodney Rodney like in La Jolla he came up to me you're funny man you're Jus you never going to be happy you got a Fast Mart you're all f***** up man and he was trying to clean up at Lacosta and he comes in Copart no pills I can't do it and he kept coming to the condo and hung out with the Kennison he saw Sam and I love this guy so I do the young comedians special on HBO I had a great set right before Sam I had a 15 minutes at Sam had a 15-minute set I was in it for 3 and 1/2 minutes and was going to 15 minutes because it was Monumental it was a year later he was in back to school so that's why it was a three-year deal with him that's crazy and he was a sweetheart when I was 19 I worked as a security guard at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts in Mansfield Massachusetts is there it was backstage and I was like I didn't get a chance to meet him but I was backstage was like a hallway it's hard to know if this is a real memory when your 19 your brain is mush and if so long didn't had a lot but then I remember they were talking about how he didn't have any pants on no never a bathrobe balls-out pacing back and forth and looking down the hallway on stage with a bathrobe on but I remember looking down the hallway seems, like how crazy pants on is going to go on stage like this is why I just didn't give a fuk I mean didn't give no fuks give he was a movie star at 58 by the way was Caddyshack that's how long it took him and apparently smoked a shitload of pot by everyday Rodney Dangerfield that's how he was named by global that I don't know I don't know but he had a rough go get it is rough ago he had to no respect thing was if you're going to pick up a brand catchphrase and wasn't the catch phrase it was his mantra he always said and I've said this before so I'm sorry if anybody has heard me say this but he always said he mad at you just go like a tank like a tank cuz nobody wants you to make it everybody's trying to stop you just cuz he had come up so long to get anywhere and he would go on Tonight Show and there if you look at any of these clips that they're running all over the Internet it's f****** killer and Carson's hit in the den can it's just real special while he was a special guy at the store was special to because it showed that you know he was trying to make it and it fell apart and then he took a lot didn't like 10 years off aluminum siding was many years and then he came back and became the biggest star in the world but he couldn't it took him to 58th and they put them in Caddyshack in a lot of the jokes where his and and then a lot of them I mean it was you know hey mrs. So is the A-Team genius movie at movies were so good Bill Murray in that Chevy was great and everybody he had some classic man Caddyshack he had some Classics he was awesome I officiated his funeral it was pretty pretty intense to put him away I was with him in the in the emergence and the sorry I got a little while in the intensive care so I can go into 84 stop doing coke he just like pot but he did a lot of coke. I think about 10 years before he dies he'll amazing 74 years old doing coke years

yeah I never had any desire to be a musician at all zero number place a drum set he came to my wedding and then he had to go do a gig and he does the gig and his wife stayed and he comes back in a different outfit like a pink jacket he left my wedding and is such a good friend he came back again cuz he was so happy for because who the f*** else would want me then my wife and he's just I was there in Philly at the at the in Camden at the Tweeter Center it was called when we were on the Opie and Anthony virus tour so it was Tracy Morgan myself Louis CK he literally attack the crowd it made Bill Burr legend that was Bill Adelphia I was standing there I was at under the f****** monitor right through the curtain that I was going to come out I had The Sweet Spot in a bobble do like 25 minutes in the middle cuz I'm just a b**** so then they put me there and it gives a sweet spot cuz you take a lot of bullets coming up with a Philly audience and Bill I known him but I am through clubs but he got out there and they were booing him fuckingawesome is to the way he's made that whole f****** Boston Brilliance and he just started to Pummel them back and said the worst things you can say every inappropriate thing you could possibly say calling talk about your cheese sticks and the Sixers and just you know and f****** great and at the end the booze were as loud as the cheers I think he got a standing ovation he didn't see it comes up sweaty remember this you don't know what just happened here it doesn't tape of this this is this is going to change you don't even know bring it up to him and he's like he just want to talk about it but it is it it was a defining moment for his everything yeah I know he's he's that guy that can just take a moment and ramped on things that he knows how to rent better than anybody I know in terms of like in the moment pick things apart and piece it like that's what his podcast is one of the brilliant things about his podcast he does it two times a week and it's just him yeah it's just him ranting which is crazy he's got that sort of muscle that he can just ramped on things by himself just Arts reading things and getting pissed off about this you know what he is with the f****** promise and then it just goes off and went to amazing is he knows what you know what I what I know that you're not he's not alone he's talking they're all of it he knows what you know what I like what I know that you're not he's not alone he's talking to all of it so he knows they love him he's comfortable and he loves people

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Standridge Right There Rose namajunas let's see let's see UFC right yeah for sure it's crazy that Rose just decided to cut her hair off just like I don't it just gets in the way cuz like she's beautiful mean her face I mean she's like she is our Covergirl model herpes just perfect bone structure but she doesn't give a f*** she's not even remotely concentrating on that OSHA just thought I don't think since that and she looks very sharp she's a Trevor Wittman disciple I mean it's just crazy what she did to ioana the momentum of the train that how how fast do you go on a train was rolling you have to put a stop to that is completely insane out of nowhere left hook optimizing all f****** greatest this is so good that's so good I think the little polish girl I love play the kenworthys open up in love with her she's really love with her forever why don't you think she come to a fight and you were going to take her out my friends were friends we text Valentina what is it say she comes to my shows when I'm in Palm Beach or door Outreach attracted to it like I like how she fights very technically she was having real problems with weight cutting the past so damn good real sharp counters she's working well off the jab jab Snappy lost some muscle mass she used to be a lot thicker she used to look like a tank she's to go in there and look like a small female Wanderlei Silva but now she's probably realizes after a while most of them do you care about all that muscle Master cost in your in your conditioning and endurance also like harder the cut the weight she probably had to cut a lot of weight she was very sick before I can tell you from experience the smaller your frame the lighter you are the so much harder it is to cut way like I know that's common sense but those last few pounds that's all just your liver in your lungs little bit of liquid you have left yeah they say the guys who cut the easiest actually are big muscular guys those big thick muscular guys because muscles like you know 90-something percent water not really water it seems plasma and other s*** but a lot of fluid you can you can lose water yeah we did back in high school that's for damn sure it's like one of the best coaches for weight cutting the sport he explained it to me I was like oh okay that actually makes sense I never thought about it before but these like the more muscle mass you have the easier it is to lose water weight there was a couple times where I wait in with just straight-up bone skin and the innards foot doctor called because everything is beautiful except your potassium is too low what is that mean that's easy nothing you can do or you don't even need banana I just got all kinds of vitamins sodium okay potassium is something different potassium is just another electrolyte but it's a critical electrolyte it's I think they'd stayed patat when people are low in potassium it's when they get cramps that f****** liquid IV s*** like starting to take electrolytes on a daily basis changed on my body operates cuz I was always getting cramps anymore literally stop getting cramps again I'm still dehydrated and run around dehydrated dehydrated f****** time man you really do you have to drink water all the time and if you don't do that you're operating at a less than optimal method you know your your your brain is not functioning the way it should invite obviously in the hotter places like you know those games stalls so much at a game and they're f****** going full-tilt you know I mean imagine imagine being a 290 lb super athlete just do one pull tail to just strive I mean the amount of explosive exertion those guys put out in a game it's f****** nuts it's not like anyone else if you really think about you in a fight you know there's a lot of moments in fights with their pacing themselves that like that they're moving and then they cagely football has these giant burst while you're running at each other full clip just all full sprinting you know and then you stopped they just said they also have longer breaks than even here cuz when you're on defense you're on that sideline for maybe you know 10 minutes and that they have on listen to wondery the podcast network is very good there really well produced they have this really good one on Aaron Hernandez in his life and why he was so f***** up who it's crazy but he killed a bunch of people is it kind of things do people got away with it he killed more than the people you got in trouble with you kill the guy in Florida yeah he killed a few people to watch the Netflix one that I did not know it was great can brain damage 20 years old when he killed himself they said he had some of the worst CTE did ever seen and you know he grew up playing football so he study on kids like all the way up through professional all the way down to high school football players who had CTE and they're like it's most kids most people play football on a regular basis like more have don't have it raised my towns are very big football town we won the state championship kids went to Penn State from there and I watch them and I've been watching them just for purposes one guy killed himself but I'm watching these guys and either that or like one buddy is in the hospital and I absolutely you know it's so it's it's Wallace football player roses roses TN off on Fridays on charges getting really pissed up here look at that one to Rosas just sharper and her footwork is better a constant movement and her counters on point that block perfect timing new one that punches come in and Rogers just looking for openings to just looking to swing big hammer shots or the Roses kind of peace and route I think when it comes to ICT it really starts in college it starts when you're in high school bro colleges I think it starts in high school but colleges were really because it's so competitive dollar and you really bang it out of there and you're young you're strong as f*** you're juicing offseason you train basically 11 months out of the year six of those months with a helmet I mean you do summerswood helmet helmets and shoulder pads no contact and usually the better you are the more you're going to naturally hit your head than more than more than once you play this fight is wild there's a while fight roses catching her with all kinds of big shots come over when you want Tony and I don't remember it being that dangerous of a fight for a tall is dangerous but you wanted was so technical she's so good that was when she was like legit in her prime I got to say I went back over the Whaley Zhang fight and you could see her winning a decision I'll look at that combination by the Entourage good left kick to the body there to you can see out but it's not bad enough where you couldn't see Zhang winning it either but she could she could have wanted to it reminded me a lot of that sort of like Nate Diaz effect to cuz the damage that you want to see what she looks like now to affect the judges decisions and perception there's no doubt about it saying it isn't every Nate Diaz fight where it looks like he's gotten beat up just cuz he has a two cuts that opening in his eyes as soon as he starts brought you want to head that a normal swelling or 400 who was crazy but meanwhile she acted like it was nothing but it didn't even exist she didn't even didn't even slow down it is she look totally different by the end and to keep fighting and Whaley man God damn she's so good just so aggressive both of them in that was absolutely one of my favorite but doesn't f****** painting of it out in the hallway hear you saw it we care about that will the promise after that was stylebender vs yoel Romero and that was a very tactical fighter to the TV like you haven't been in the bar at La Jolla like that main lobby open like half because I closed out I took off five minutes from the opener and 5 minutes from the only time I ever did that in my life because that I wanted to do my time to not miss a thing and that was one of those times cuz I go I said light me when II fighter in the main event gets to the Octagon give me a safety light and I was already in the middle of my closer and it was so cool and end the majority of that audience and they were slammed in there you could never never there will be five people Slam in five years they won't be that many people slammed in that room for any reason all on top of one another cuz they all knew that I was on that room beneath the bar the bar area. So it's like this yeah it's basically down there but there's one County outside of San Diego that has a shitload of I also think they're realizing like people just can't be that close to that when people see other people doing things they like and do it we'll just do it ourselves we just all hang out like yep he's waiting for the results from the weekend to see what the f*** goes on it's easily make the announcer Monday they take her down though that's a down but their cases are up high so the cases are as hot as it ever been are hiring at believe they opened up Disney World in Florida you seem not be able to put on his manager just trying to put it on a vertical you guys have no idea like that guy he had to follow other kids when he went to school every day to remember where it was he was one of those f****** morons really that's so close to Miami. That's What I Call Music. Yeah Miami's got like so the Improv Miami shutdown yeah but West Palm still open those either roll those dice LOL, go back to town and Shaw both tested positive and Stevie blue eyes I wonder what they did oh my God her nose is a mess all excuses croston on my Frank is a mess has a tank man but you didn't have it didn't have it good technique are good guard use two legs up there all nice good job kicking off yeah she might might be too busted up man whatever is going on with her face not good she how she'll quick as she covers up that under our check is hard strong them hammers the power consumed his thick thighs would hurt her that's right with it part of her face it's injured oh man oh my God she is busted up dude and it wasn't hurt as bad shape everything her whole face is a bloody mask Roof oh my goodness what a fight and then you get into these exchanges one of them is just throwing Hammers and you keep getting hit like when I drive to get the clothes she just winging these big shot so every time they have in these exchanges that's a nice left hook there but Rose doesn't have enough energy to really keep her off over CXC time she's tired so she's hitting her but she doesn't have enough energy to really keep her off of her and then in these exchanges I'll do that take down a whole look at this dude that left eye is f***** up when you have a guy that's that closed you're so susceptible on that side but yet they might stop it it's over this the end of 3rd oh my God look at her eyes. Cheese's have fries that's one of the worst I've ever seen her dog and I'm getting a f****** potato turn on my own. So I don't want no misunderstandings I understand why people use to have Tabasco like I'm supposed to be impressed what is that is what we will pray by Frank's Red Hot total strikes but we're talking too much it looks to me like she was winning the first two rounds but when someone gets that badly beat up in the third their faces. Much of a mess that infects the judges depends on how liberal they are with those 10-8 rounds to you know, cat litter I that's bad that badly beat up in the third their faces that much of a mess that infects the judges depends on how liberal they are with those 10-8 rounds to you know, cat litter I that's bad

here we are about to see Jose Aldo and Peoria now what's interesting about this fight is people think of all do as being done some people do but also was only 33 that make sure that's correct easier than 32 or 33 he might be 32 like he's not old but he burst onto the scene when 33 that's crazy man I mean he's as Prime all those in his prime and Amaya opinion he beat Marlon Mariah's he lost a decision the UFC agrees with that opinion which is why he's fighting pewter yawn for the title and not Marlin merized that's a very rare time where someone loses a fight and then get the fight for the title and everybody agrees and this is where it's at right now mean people people saw that fight that like yeah I think he I think you want Let Them Fight for the title and so as soon as Henry sahuto step down person who does trying to fight that Ryan Garcia guy that boxer know is Ryan Garcia's like he's the latest really popular up-and-coming young boxer he's ridiculously fast heavyweight no no no no lightweight 135 oh my God he hit him right in the solar plexus 11 gotta punch him or excuse me in Ghana let him punch him with a body shield on and it got no didn't even feel it but then in Ghana started letting big people punch him with nobody shield and kind of so big man he's scary as hell Over All I'll never forget being there when he knocked out so real but yeah that was insane you should have been there for the last one what was that swinging Jamie what happened we have ghosts in here the last one when he knocked out Jersey no rosenstreich there was no one of the audience so one of those Apex fights so and they did it right in front of us like he charged him and just hit him with a left hook and then roses strike drops and then he pounds amount while he's he's already out cold and he hit some of these two big bomb so you hear them both of them are 265 and they just collided Quaaludes and they took I was ready to drop balloon you know meat though it sounds like whatever you want to lose weight but then when he went down to 135 he nutritionist for the first time in his career and now he has zero problem getting a 135 his cut to 1:35 is way easier than cut the 45 it said which is crazy and energy levels the same again King tremendous his last fight with maluma rice he was just attacking the entire time his whole career you should have been at 1:35 his whole career and he can win a belt here for the first time since Connor knocked him out huh oh yes felt he won the interim featherweight title after Connery lost it to Max Holloway I think that's true right 99% positive that's true I think he he beat beat but he knocked out Jeremy Stephens he knocked out and not so more Connell and both those guys are big powerful 45 hours and he decided to try to fight it 35 and you look better 35 they never liked the guy later in his career when they cut weight is sort of a last-ditch effort and you start thinking man skies in trouble it's got that Chernobyl power behind them right here born and Down the River how dare you clear power I want to do that one day so I had Hannibal on the other day Hannibal is such an interesting guy who wanted things he did he took a whole month off by himself and just went to Thailand train Voight I not even like doesn't even have experience in it it's not like his whole life always want to be a Thai boxer thought it'd be fun to train and live in Thailand for a month no just decided to go went to f****** Thailand train there and I just happened to be in Thailand time with my family so he came out from a sink using Bangkok he came up to Chiang Mai where we were at hung out with us with dinner and shot the shadows out here man he's like I'm training Muay Thai he's an interesting guy you know what he's doing now he's going to Ghana get a live in Ghana I do for how long has no wife no kids do whatever the f*** you want real estate is made Investments got money like when someone lives like that is like to live in Ghana Ghana Ghana ancestry test and is on his father's side a lot of its from Ghana and you know he felt like hey man what a great way to get material in what a great experience is the life experience to go there and live there but also imagine how much material he's going to get living in Africa for 3 months Africa not wear f****** Jim Jones Congressman they had the whole thing and watched it and then years later you know you ready to get on Hollywood whatever we were this morning announcements he'd make on the f****** PA system using say whatever creepy said he was shooting speed wasn't sleeping for the days he was a meth addict Island like that 99% sure that the Guyana and Island I think it's just it's a country in South America where he set up is called I think they feel like they're being persecuted United States which they always are because it's always the same story as woman is it just a part of South America European in the news I remember Jonestown was when I got way more than that was a f****** the first one that I was dead people man in that crazy that's what's so crazy they're all just lying there poisoned so scared I poison doesn't work as good as everybody thinks it does it takes a little time fight this is a great fight cuz this is like the big test for Ian and for all dog man you want to talk about Jews been around the block you can't fight a more experienced guy and world-class competition that Jose it although he's about as experienced as they get he was the best kicker like he was dressed like people's legs almost never kicks anymore almost never kicks now he just concentrates almost entirely on his boxing if you watch him find out it's very rare that he throws a kick very rare it used to be like you would chop with those f****** leg kicks man and it was like the most important part of his game because you hit with what like when he fought Urijah Faber I mean he was just a matter of time and now although very rarely throws kicks and I really want to ask get some a translator and ask him why but I don't want to tell anybody you know I'll tell him like just tell me and I won't tell anybody I just wanted I mean is it an injury like what is it cuz it might be it might be like his knees f***** up you can't take anymore cuz all these guys you know he's been in the sport forever and then before that he was a high-level Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt training forever right yep so soccer guys all have f*****-up knees soccer is like one of the best ways to tear your ACL those guys Taylor AZ house with a big right hand the thing about this at this weight class to all there's a kick at this weight class although is so durable he's so strong because he's used to fighting those forty fivers but look although can take it at 35 cuz he's used to getting hit with like Connor big ass 45 or so you know he's used to getting hit with you know I'm not no more, went up to lightweight damn this is good right away Ian switching stances is very clever he's setting up traps he also doesn't want that left leg out front because of although keeps kicking at it you know everybody was always wondering like when all those going to return with his leg kicks because they were the thing that everybody avoided forever and you see lucky throws to win this fight and both of opinion around those guys that come from that soccer background man they can f****** kick the amount of leg strength you have and like your ear used to whippin your legs around oh we look for when they're human sperm cell phone or not Mariah throws that he throws has a really sneaky left switch kick to the head it's like a whip another kick by although I like it although back to Kickin Landing that straight left to throwing a lot of kicks I like it that's that that's a lot to me that means a lot cuz that means he's got all the weapons cuz when he's tracking how to throw bombs on them with the punches I feel like he's just not the same guy not as versatile as many things to think about like when he was in the wec he opened up in this fight with Cub Swanson with a flying knee and knocked him out in the first few seconds of the fight wild there he goes again see he's spinning around with that kick when Aldo kicks your f****** legs man it takes a lot movement away is Fox a lot of things up in fighterz cuz they have to think about that now and this is only the first round this is a five-round because it's a title fight all those keeps chopping at that leg and I hope he does Ian with a big kick to the body goodness what's he doing what's that rap doing OSHA has mean he's mean he doesn't want although with his fingers inside the gloves that's what's going on you you're not allowed to do he got hit with a big shot this John's f****** them up man in the round he got hurt real bad with a body shot real bad so that redness around the right side of his body that's where your liver is need to see when he got hit he covered up and winced I hope they show that and replay look higher up to me but maybe I just missed it. Went he hit him right in the body boys are definitely got you some Wars but was it was interesting as always at right hand but it was his movement that spot around that low kick it was his movement because I protect the body and left hook his moving the cause that wound up being on his back to this is the end but this is not what cause the body shot I want to see the box of goodies big bombs getting hit with oh my God Ian is hitting it with a big f****** shots didn't show The Body Shop in the ground unfortunately been ieuan is fired up coming into the second round we was all there trying to take him down that f*** that up for him alright let's see what happens now okay both guys assuming you know that's the light front leg it's also you can throw at eat from there and throw that inside leg kick is ready to chat to both doing that so you think they're both are both passed out right now and your legs and all those already what is an ego to the body Jets oshit Stephen Thompson just tweeted that he thinks he has a rib is broken delivers a big Target quite a large large patch leaky really f*** someone up and when you get hit there it's the weirdest feeling man everything goes like this and some guys can suck it up and make it look like nothing but most of time when you get hit there your body just kind of seizes up it's very rare that a guy can play that off I'll do just hit him with a liver shot although hit him with a good left-handed deliver their he switch stances again left leg for it and then immediately chops at it this is like the Aldo of old oh good right hand of the body by Ian Dennis fight is good buy the right leg John's leg is in trouble that left legs in real trouble ready when he clenches up with dudes he's just one of those guys is very very physically strong and he's f****** mean you know this like extra meanness that some guys have and yawns got that damn this is good Russians are wild man I just watch this Oliver Stone interview thing you ever see that on Showtime Oliver Stone interviews Putin live part series across it cuz I watched another crazy documentary on Showtime about the kid that gets its brand new it's it's about a high school football player that gets accused of being a pedophile of sexually abusing a child and it turns out he was completely wrongfully convicted Ono yep for years he was in prison while the other guy went on to do it to more people by unreal what happened to him can't remember if they even give out the actual payment we mean you changed his life has no number you could ever put on that right and someone lie on the witness stand like what why did they convict him it's so crazy. Yeah it's well worth not knowing this is the most kicks I've ever seen all do throw in recent years look at that goes High London travel you heard of there without combination the kick to the body that left hook to the body man ball player on my Dell scholarship and his plan is to be in the NFL and he probably would have been able to do it when they show you the clips of them as a Texas high school football player and he's just up star athlete collapse and crushing quarterbacks and how old is he now deliver they just showed it this is I can't f****** imagine being wrongly accused in jail they just cut deals you basically a piece of me imagine if your public defender and guys are lying to you all the time and you don't know who's innocent who's not everybody's going through a no-budget there's no I don't have a budget to hire an investigator to go talk to the people there that night when you're at a dino this so many different obstacles you have you know what I got sentenced I got sentence with an attorney the difference than going in there with a public f****** defendant the big difference and not paying that guy's got 80 people he's got to take care of he's just in business of cotton cut me out of 3rd here get that one moment in the first where Ian hit him with that big body shot do and Ian is forced to switch stances yawns fight in Southpaw now because all those guys left leg all f***** up he's got two more rounds to work on that right leg and now is throwing kicks with the left leg but he's going to charge shop at that that right leg as well good shot with the left leg good f****** fight man is a very good fight this is the first time Ian has had to fight five rounds in the UFC if I if I'm correct all those done it many times he's been released scheduled from multiple multiple five-round fights all of his championship and went five rounds lights went back when he wasn't cutting weight correctly either by the looks good nasty weapon River digging that liver Ian the trouble is in trouble that left hook to the body and now Jana standing Orthodox again he's heading there so many times that song that Ian is throwing a punch it's going to it's going to be like 35% powerful because of that leg is leg just he can't generate power off that left leg he could do it a little bit but it's got he's going to be missing something. It's crazy that although drops down to three 5in just like Becomes of a reinvented fighter unbelievable and then when you find out it's really only 33 like wow he's been around forever I mean he's been a world champion forever first-ever featherweight champion in the wec for the first-ever featherweight champion in the UFC me when they instituted the weight class he was the guy they brought him over from the WC again that left hook to the liver the nation would they call the dutchie it's a left hook to the liver and the right leg kick that's like a anesto who's special that's the thing about Ian that is so clever he's filled with so many he's got so many techniques again oh my God get out of there left hook deliver by Aldo on a counter shot to the head by Ian oh my God by Ian last minute of these rounds to him that this is a crazy but this is a crazy fight I don't know if that's the right mentality when the round for the first four minutes and give him I'm one minute away I'm trying but I know I know sentimentalities is just getting this is a really close fight in there I watch the bats breakdown of ali-frazier a guy that went back and looked through all the interviews of both of them and tells you how they're feeling in between each round and everything on YouTube so cool telling you at one point like at the end of this round Muhammad Ali said this is the closest to death he's ever felt and it's just the end around 11 around 12 or something I think that was Rumble in the Jungle throw in Manila I think it was the Thrilla in Manila was Joe that was hurt was Rumble in the Jungle Ali and Frazier foreman right okra done with James Brown came out going to concert and sleepykinq concert promoter Don King part of the building for the Ali Foreman fight check out his live at Radio City Music Hall with he does live is so crazy especially with that song with the use me fight man cuz he uses the crowd like an instrument uses their claps and everything he keeps looking for that left hook to the body and then Ian counters with that right hook to the Head o album over the top what a fight oh nice needed a body have a good time you go swimming in like your pool cool what is a golden retriever they there another duck hunting dogs the retrievers like they're the sweetest kindest dog but like they were developed to hunt birds really pretty sure I'll look at that late one for the trip all those a little tired here it's these moments where one guy needs to catch a breath and the other guy doesn't allow things can change and happen in those moments John is still being forced to fight from that Southpaw stance that opens up a lot of s*** though it opens up power kicks from both guys cuz the bodies open-toe Yong with a good combination but although it was so good with that right low kick to the Orthodox component that's why it's such a big weapon for him that when someone fights him Southpaw it kind of changes that John was a jumping knee attempt wow I'll do it landed more significant strikes already in this fight than any other fight than any other five yet said his personal-best wow that's crazy sex landed on keeps coming one thing that Aldo has had a problem with in the passes when guys pressure and he has had problems maintaining the stamina and that's what Max Holloway did to him and bullfights particular in the second fight because although fights in such an explosive way that when you explode like that and dig in with big shots your looks Printing and you need some need a break or is Max Holloway everything's like pop pop pop pop pop we put that pace on you and that's what he did to Aldo and Giannis doing it right now as long as all the leading like he was leading in the mall and Mariah fight and never got tired but he's not being pressured and Ian is pressure no s*** is not good that's not good this is not good but it's great beyond is going to beat him up this might be at is my BF is a whole minute to go try to grab the rest he's just he's just risk control that's how do you mind goes right over through with the knee that's been allowed to hit some big shots 1/5 four significant total total strikes 156 significant 146 are the significant strikes that's crazy he's got some strong bond over the top 30 seconds ago it just takes a few big shots from here looking he's looking throw those legs this side just doesn't know which way to go and although is not he's not a big threat license office back especially not now why is this not weird for a Brazilian like that well I mean it's just never been his Forte he's never really in my recollection ever really submitted anybody would like an armbar anything off the back when he's on his back he's just kind of hanging on and holding on although he does have great Brazilian Jiu Jitsu skills he's never been like a guard specialist his nose as f***** up that's a great school that he came what's novolin yeah yeah top top of fight one of the very best and Andre pederneiras who's his head instructed this the guy in front of them not. The UFC cutman there's another guy so all those looking for the left of the body and Ian is waiting for him to throw in the account we got job he's so good at fighting from this position man that's such a up a big plus that he can fight so good from a southpaw position as well because even though is left calf is f***** up he basically took leg kicks out of the equation by switching stances cuz all those not having nearly as much success with that right leg kick to the right front leg as he was to the left front leg is it the fifth and final round wonder who's winning this is a great fight till it's always a good sign when they're hugging at the start of the fifth how much energy man so you want to try to slide that arm down to lock up the right arm so I just need to cross and lock up the right on Valdosta I'll look and defend himself and that's where he's at right now full crew to fix things right leg is trapped in the middle and a half car but still might as well be a crucifix that right arm is just totally taken out of the game who's got no defense at all on his right side right now get through this is using that leg turn it down although almost wish I could almost recaptured guard there no I'll do is grabbing the fence with his toes in a sentence the referees tell him not to do that since yesterday and yeah he's now to get that leg free if he gets his leg free it's a full crucifix. Holy Blood nice taking his back so that's it it's blowing right now is over it's over anymore stop the fight stop at your f*** that pour out though fight over stop in this fight stop this f****** fight already please please stop right come on in many other cases look at how much blood is on that cam is worth that is that's nuts man but now Ian is punched himself out look at this going to take a little break he's got two minutes to go though I mean I just feel like every time I've watched fights in New York it seems like it always stopped very quickly and no reason he had to take all those shots and just getting hammered in the head it's not enough it's basically like you're getting punished for not going unconscious that's good point Dam has no f****** joke made some big ass adjustments switch stances smash them and when he died top on the ground you see how strong is that's what I was talking about like how physically strong is like although is always been very good off his back defensively he's always been able to hold on to that dig into the body leave that drops in with the uppercut blockman I mean in the Pro long beat him beating he gave him in that Fifth and Final Round it was a prolonged bleeding prolonged eating that referee had five bucks on Aldo

opra people-watching home turn sync up we're at 454-450-3452 for 51 or 50 of the first round Amanda Ribas and Paige VanZant in the Scrolls stocking page pigeon a nice kick their used to eat fish fillet from McDonald's 20 years ago when we come home from hell yeah if I'm still he doesn't know you don't like fish fillets in my God uncomfortable position at page is trying to hold her in place by my Griffin arms like that but that's all she has to do Rebus all she has to do is fish her arm through see her right arm fish it on through she's trying to do that but Paige got a tight if she can figure out a fish her arm through and clamp our heads together that's a legit submission man only this page about to take her back look at this look at this it's up against the cage who's in a better position she might actually be able to take her back from there but it's hard when you're up against the cage like that it's hard to maneuver so Amanda Ribas had some blood coming out of her nose stupid if we both can get her arm through all of that page is going to take her back oh s*** she took a chance to all Rebus is going to take her back while that was slick slick armbar armbar pages in real trouble here so slick man see this is the same thing as she wants a flipper over but the cage is where she wants to talk her she might still get it she might get a ride from there when I get to get it right from their page gotit app Pages where she wants to talk her she might still get it she might get a ride from there when I get a call when she's going to get it right from their page got tap can't she can't pick her up

hallway oshit I don't know how I feel about this hair that's full ass haircut I'm not sure if it look maybe there's no Patrick Dempsey from the old timey movies following quarantine Halo at bet him was The Comedy Store because he's very nice actually told me not to let it get to me Patrick Dempsey father kills it is unbelievable show Joey the show is a drama but it's done by these comedy guys that only know comedy so it's a super serious show and then when the comedy hits you it f****** hits you like it hits you like Goodfellas or Tarantino or The Sopranos when it's fucken gets you out of nowhere cuz they sneak out on you during serious it's happening oh it's so funny legs tree trunks Crocodile Dundee hat on imma keep it on standby yeah but if he wins I got to wear that way you could put on if Max ones or something or pineapple maximum support animal vacation one of his Fighters I believe it's a grappling event I'm not sure I forgot I'll find out your windows that he was cornered in a fighter submission on the shore I don't know where that is submission on the shore so would say a lot of these events where you know God can win a couple of grand for winning and they can do them a lot cuz unlike striking you really can't have fights every weekend but you could grapple pretty much every weekend you make a couple Grand here a couple Grand there and some guys like like Ryan Gordon they actually make real money doing that means probably made a million-dollar grappling Gordon Ryan excuse me I said Ryan Gordon so I switched his name wrong. I blame the weed but Gordon Ryan has been winning big grappling events for 3-4 years and he just bought a f****** house but like a million-dollar House of grappling money which is crazy here we go baby they got a lot of good sponsors to yeah they're always throw his exciting his rule systems the best I'm in the world because it's it cuts out all the the bad s*** about stalling and Ulf stalemates rather not installing stalemates you know where Four Guys cancel each other out if force them into a position where the guys on your back ready said go or guys got you in no position Ready set go when the guy got has you in that spider web position it's hard man that working at work but you don't have the audience you don't get the money from the audience you think about who's selling out the Orpheum right was the Orpheum that's two thousand people at least right you can put 200 people in you want eventually going to shut you down especially West Hollywood going to be the last thing to open because of Ralph's that destroyed Hollywood it's well-known West Hollywood is the last place to open yeah so that's it I like with the stores doing the outside patio area Eden graduation I was under a tent so this is what they think about is that volkanovski in the first round did a lot of chopping at the legs and took Max a while before He adjusted and he started adjusting by switching Southpaw but he got his leg chewed up early in the fight and it's going to be interesting to see what adjustments Max's made and what what volkanovski is going to do differently bokanovsky just such a tank I watch the great breakdown by Dominic how to explain it volkanovski also made a big he's circling to the right side now but then he sets them up that way and then takes a big side step to the left and when then when Holloway tries to adjust that's when volkanovski strikes after he steps to the left then trusting the same do the opposite now what he's been quarantined to in that he hasn't been able to go to City kickboxing in New Zealand cuz he trains at City kickboxing Australia but he a lot of time to go to New Zealand for his camps and he has a man would do that for this fight too and I don't know how much if any of an effect that's going to have so Max has been being a little more slick so far in his first-round keeping his distance and avoid nose leg kicks pretty much got hit with one I believe but much different than in the first fight real aware of it cuz it seem that took a lot of the movement away from him but was interesting he came in here after the fight after loss could not have been like more relaxed and happy and having a good time just accepted it didn't have any problems with it wasn't limping at all how soon after about couple days that's crazy and he was like I'm telling you man he's in great spirits he's a really good guy like in his head is really on straight he has a great saying goes a it is what it is and you know he really means that and he's honest about like his style like the benefits the pros and cons of stop that you was talking about Aldo and he's like those guys with power man because that's why I get so tired to get so much power he's he's like you know I don't have that kind of power but because of that he can go longer and hotter those guys with power they try to use it all the time and a guy like him he can knock people out and he does not a lot of people out but he knocks people out with volume and precision he just put the pace on you and wears you out Beach down where's although can stop God's with one shot that's the difference isn't really stopped too many guys with one shot volkanovski connected there I'm just interested to see what changes he can make right now is he's getting kicked a lot less in the legs so he's moving away more as well kanoski tries to engage turn up front kick up the middle he's keeping them keeping a backing up to keep the pressure on him keeping him up against the cage are you got hit with that one I did almost forget I almost forgot is in the best one why was so looking forward to this for a Homewood right hand over the top God damn is MSG 1/4 like that a lot real like two more fights left and I already so tender to it's so hard to get hit there sucks I'm sticking by that Patrick Dempsey thing I know it's in the weird reference but I keep looking at my just keep saying it over and over again 31 significant strikes 220 but that head kick was big he heard him with a right hand earlier in the fight Laguna's is his left his right cheek is swollen let's see this clip them know what's funny about that s*** guys that wouldn't Fighters have a good time in the ring is so much more loose they do so much better we learned that from Ferguson for a long time after last night but if you're honest they don't always lose goodnight the original room when you just don't give a f*** oh yeah right where you feel good where you feel really good and you like I'm going to f****** kill your already sort of screwed going in with that mentality double helix toys with people he f**** with their head means a lot of what Max does like he's having fun in there for sure but he's also letting you know I got you I got you he does all the time so he drew first blood for sure I mean volkanovski definitely got offset lazy chewing up that inside he's definitely getting off some good inside Loki's hurting that like that like election trouble nasty combination by Holloway God damn that was nice that was nice he's piecing them up but again bokanowski go inside inside low kick over and over and Max trying to return the same Kik which means it probably sucks he had him again and every combination is hitting with that inside low kick that pays dividends man Beck's got a block that wow still pretty though she is like Jesus and she's a beautiful girl got that too like that bothered you that I mean it's so funny cuz I always pictured the girl beating you on a being like my mom's to rekey monster yeah just a full beard that never happened JMU Baptist that's unusual nothing seemed like a good bet your your sounds weird soap for Rose she moves on and gets closer to a shot at the title of the body by Max I mean that we li Zhang you want to fight with so good you really could make a you can make an argument they have to have a rematch was so good it was about as good as ever been you can make an argument that that's actually better than Rose fighting N Roses face is so f***** up like it might take her a while before she's able to find him he went inside and outside without leg but Max isn't limping or anyting it can't be good but so far he's moving pretty good I would try to go up top oh good right hand by Max they're both really good guys to this is one of those fights where you know it would be hard to root for somebody unless you're good friends with them Max is a very funny relationship with dc2 he's always called DC out tell him we want to fight him that just plan it mean they're just friends you want over-the-top that head kick gambus time does Grey's his head he sees a damn anomaly to me how that guy is so good it's Martin the octagon and a commentator and Maxxis really smart natural he's very smart he's really smart always thinking always thinking he's telling somebody to shush, shush that's interesting to go back and watch this at home I want to know what's going on I don't know what he's doing there that would I wonder what he was who is shushing so he's point to someone on or maybe someone in volkanovski is corner so that's two rounds for Holloway for sure the route we dropped him with the head kick the round were dropped on the upper cut those are his in the last item is beautiful Curtis think that's a third time he's made his knees Buckle open and then again it's whenever coming the way up and he games he does he goes on right volume that's what's Wild to me about this main event is Masa. endurance to be able to go 5 Covington who I thought had the best gas tank out of everyone well there was no wrestling that's one of the reasons why there we go 5 like that yeah you know why Kobe's in nightmare for a lot of people in fact it was mine didn't just beat them but stopped him says a lot but you know who's monism I keep talking about his knees being so bad that after some training had to walk on the grass cuz you couldn't walk on a concrete does it hurt too much engine that then imagine he's fighting matches him a flying knee but he's kind of just resigned himself to the idea that when he retires are going to have to get his knees replaced so he's just fighting just you know dealing with a seam training those that need braces on her knee sleeves on he talks about it openly he had that they do this thing where they they they didn't microfracture your knee like to try to get your cartilage grow back and actually did was want it being worse for him it's f***** up he wants to eat in these I've heard that from more than one person that's had that operation. I think it's probably fine for somebody who does like regular s*** but if you want to go back to some hardcore wrestling and MMA training is probably a terrible idea Chalmers I just had some crazy surgery huh what was that he had his hip replaced ya got a new sockets really crazy sent me that picture that you see the picture as the weddings to do it or in some cases how they do it and he he will be able to fight again apparently which is just nuts and he's also walking around now pretty much without a limp 13 days after the operation it's really crazy the way they do it now and it's not even just for young guys my friend Graham Hancock got his hip replaced and 6 weeks later he came on the podcast and was walking normal and I was like what 6 weeks ago your hip replaced every day with different game that's why I like what about the stuff you do for these but like he has but a lot of guys have TJ Dillashaw shoulders Me Talk Pretty openly about it a bunch of guys gone down to Columbia as well Henry sahuto on the show was talking about how he went down to Columbia to get stem cells down there and they fix the shoulder it's a real shoulder problems when they could do in these other countries that they don't have the same regulations they have here in the United States United States they can only do certain amount with stem cells and even that has been amazing beneficial to me but if you go to Panama or you know Cuba has a lung cancer vaccine Hep a vaccine yep how about lung cancer is not a virus after they have a vaccine day and made some weird thing it's only available in Cuba for lung cancer back but she my aunt tells me all the time they just fix you there's no pills after with they just fix you okay gima vac cgf is a lung cancer treatments developed and Cubed the type of immunotherapy that harnesses the body's immune system to fight lung cancer wow 2017 you goddamn right Smoke City smoke cigars cigarettes and having the time of their lives imagine getting a vaccine for everything my buddy had was Fiasco cancer if you get that that should be to soften the blow that's how the doctor should break it into you I got bad news for you. yeah we had this discussion when you were talking to me about your boy with his eye socket that healed after the fire yoel Cuba run for Championship rounds to the body is only a couple of times and on the outside to Mandy's he's getting back to what was very successful for him in the first fight but you got to think all the way one at least two rounds I don't know about the third but I would imagine he won those first two rounds dropped them twice so let's say volkanovski won the third who knows who knows what's going on here do this leg buckles from that low Tech again a chop the same area man bright red it's f****** up man crazy the great Herb Dean what Joey what Jesus Christ why I'm too much into this s*** I don't want to talk I cannot believe how red halo Wade's leg is it is ketchup unipunch talking with right hand to another right hand and he smiled at them to Island guys New Zealand in Hawaii New Zealand I guess but he's not from New Zealand from Australia which is the big gym where oceans diagram that takes a body that's where adesanya that's where he trains is City kickboxing and New Zealand Dan hooker also City kickboxing guy and volkanovski does City kickboxing but the one that's in Australia there's a lot of like real high-level kickboxers in Australia man it's kind of amazed why do you think that is cuz of soccer and rugby and stuff so just tough people man their men their manly men you give them something like Jiu-Jitsu or kickboxing they sell it that s*** they're hard people over there you know it's a different breed that's why I Crocodile Dundee worked as a movie you know it's not like he's talking about guys from I'm going to want to disparage any country but pick a country where thought to be more feminine you know yeah Australia like you love it over there right ohyeah they called them Bears I promise you that cuz things are f****** dares do they look all cute but the second you stop feeding at eucalyptus as soon as it's like where the f**** my if they get mad within seconds to get mad at you at anything that the world that the only one thing I figured it out real quick and food is there drug it just feels like it's like a drug to them because they're just addicted they start to get mad normally if you don't if you stop feeding something for 3 seconds it doesn't get that Max has been eating that's what I was thinking about it because I hope box not opens first which is probably going to be the same I got a couple weeks up in Oxnard on Wednesday nights just to warm me up anything that's happening I'm all the way book till December Joey I've recently resigned myself to the idea that everything is canceled that's my my recent resignation I'm hoping I'll be very happy if they came out with some sort of a really effective treatment and then they opened everything up again but here we are in July and you know some big gigs booked in August and October and I'm not confident I'm not coughing a lot even thinking about those type of gigs it breaks my heart beat tell me my anniversary Thursday and I can't be on stage 90 days guys it didn't really bother me. It bothers me a little bit it's like met you and started getting me that I shall was in mid-march what's your last show is in their last show is March 2nd I read I went to the store March 2nd I can smell it in yet I was chasing that thing all the way down to the last second I was doing show how it got so bad at the end the last show I did was at the haha cuz they were the last place open and I closed it 45 minutes that you can do as long as you want after a whole night of a show only like eight people there but I knew cuz we found out right before the day to close that night they're going off here as Fifth and Final Round they're going for broke I think they think this is anybody's fight Max always pushing it he's definitely been way more effective in this fight than the first fight powerful man has Jabs like a right-hand he's got crazy endurance to for such a power Striker man they are beating each other up oh big African a good right hand behind it by volkanovski looking for the takedown I wish you guys could come with me to one of these with no audience at big fun it's awesome they won't let you know I tried one of my security guys was in Vegas during parts and I got tested and everything I'm like he's good-looking man I can't do it they won't do it Vegas is particularly strict they wouldn't even let me go into the Octagon to interview and maybe know everyone's been tested it wouldn't let me interview the fighters Petty interview remotely like they had I had to be there and they had to be there's another room I could see them there were like Fifty yards away was real weird I was going to say you're so connected them usually that distance and energy break us to just as good it's not as good for questions you know you want to look at them and you want to you want to make them comfortable you know this moment that you want them to know that you appreciate it you know that the fight was awesome nice little kick right there by volkanovski kind of busted up oh right hand by Max they're both so inaccurate yeah this is a wild-ass fight looking for the takedown again all week at it look at that crazy up quick IMAX is amazing that's a champion right there so so weird try cuz I haven't seen him Holloway's Sun you realize like oh yeah he's probably not they're always there do you think so I think so I can't believe that for a second this is anybody's round man could be the fight right now looking for takedown numero dos last minute who wins this one who wins this one anybody's fight I think Max is probably done more damage in those two big rounds were dropped them but volkanovski is getting his in as well and if okonowski steals this round will f****** nose man soar like the opposite than the last fight cuz Holloway won the first two and volkanovski has been picking it up ever since 12 big one second ago wow who knows that could have been that could have been his round for that got two takedowns not round I mean that could have been fought that could be the fight I might have to be wearing a Crocodile Dundee hat Max Holloway total strikes 152 significance so you bested him in total and significant strikes 148 to 144 for volkanovski you're actually how to see 1212 people the last Comedy Club I get the Chinese guy from the bartender to check the temperature is at the door Rent-A-Car there's a place across from subconscious Jiu Jitsu breast place is Feliz for 12 seats in them so what is the other option I have is my uncle has a liquor license from 1969 if you want to liquor license in La that's the one you want you can light bottle rockets in your a****** you could have live bands you can have a gay bar he's 82 when he goes out every Friday and Saturday and it's been closed and the girl that was his mistress when he was married he had a mistress that he got the mistress's cousin knocked up he's a beaut he's a beauty I love my uncle so now he got the and she's living with him this one thing about my uncle you don't like people around Crocodile Dundee dude

Siteman holyshit this fights crazy here we go baby gimme gimme a little volume since I don't have headphones on going to hear a little of this a great Bruce Buffer I can't wear headphones with this beautiful kind of what do you think like the most the moniker haunted Relic you have in here is it feel like so much of this crazy steps probably from some hidden temple or something right in here give us that again the energy from that those things for Menses and the horns going did you eat that animal his heart and every cop big was he just took me like a year to eat them damn weak and then I'll eat it for breakfast I'll slice it up put hot sauce on it I eat cold smoker because I've done that the kitchen but as far as me looking at a chicken or raw chicken and touching it all that s*** I could picture you over a grilled you didn't know every character that stands over a girl as they said his name this is going to be crazy this is very interesting very interesting cuz this is the biggest strongest guy that Mazel dolls ever fought at welterweight Lookout but physically tomorrow is a different animal I mean he's a national champion wrestler and just spectacular specimen play this low kick right away from Mazda tall another low kick and equipto a left hook inside low kick a good wrestler though he's real sneaky very sneaky with his grappling interesting down this fast yeah it is interesting but he's kind of holding on to see what is able to do just fart is that you know he thought it lightweight most of his career Mazda doll did and Usman is much bigger I mean he's e in enormous lightweight he's about as big as a lightweight excuse me enormous wealth away is about as big as a welterweight can get in the only got it be too small and was a lot taller than him right is not a sin. Caught in his first pro fight he got caught with a rear naked choke you just didn't understand you just do then yeah he's out he's up interesting not much damage at all for nothing by little happen there but now on the feet I give a big advantage to mosswood all especially when it comes to how especially when it comes to combinations he lends wild combinations in Silo kick again my door i8 he's a goddamn Superstar who what did you say in Cuban a second ago the thing about this fight is it Mazda tall was training for a fight on July 11th but then the negotiations didn't go well and then give it to Gilbert Burns because Gilbert Burns was willing to take a different deal that but I wouldn't take but he was still training now he says he was ready anyway because he thought the one of these guys is going to fall out cuz lot of times got to do Fallout guys get injured all the time I would say it's like 40% of the time and these big fights some s*** happens and Things Fall Apart I mean comporium look at khabib and Tony Ferguson of never happened every f****** time does supposed to happen it doesn't happen that fights been canceled five times so when you're at this level it's a smart move if they're negotiating with you for a fight on July 11th to keep training man even if the negotiations fall apart because if you do get that call six days out and you are in shape for the questions like is Maza tall we don't know we don't know how much he was trained and we don't know what he did oh big shot by Osman little blood over moskatels eyebrow he set stuff up he does like some crafty veteran s*** in there seems like he'll rush you hit you with shots coming in accouchement so calm and steady calm and steady but I was with Colby to calm and steady just kept that pressure on didn't really throw 100% heat until he knew we had him hurt he just stays, steady he'll stab you in the stomach a lot with those front kicks to but see Jorge oh this is not good for Usman dolls just too clever and fast with his hands is going to get away from that cage pain with right now big shots the wild thing about my Hospitality basically outboxed Nate Diaz who he beat the s*** out of gas man who Fox Conor McGregor who won rounds against her round at least against Mayweather will they were talking about Conor McGregor and doing what it was like get the f*** out of here and then what was like get the f*** out of here cuz they were talking about it right after he knocked out Cowboy when Connor knocked out Cowboys like boom old the right hand their bows mom to break doubt it all look at that take single leg got out of it I know way hi to stretch them out hard to do he's deciding you're the best wrestler in this division get ahold Eggo get a hold of this guy dragged him to the f****** ground and Mall him that's what you do cuz he's getting hit too many times and he's only human his top of this bond is a guy like Mazda tall Clips you a few times that little video game Power Bars keep dropping he doesn't like have it doesn't look like he's trying at all to stop takedowns looks like he's in a boxing fight is like got perfect upright posture but his balance is so good and his takedown defense is so good he usually can avoid them a weird position there in got risk control taking a lot of foot Stomps give me some doesn't perfectly perfectly you can you can you can damn someone's foot but it's often times is just annoying things like I guess in the new video game you could do like Florida backyard octagon I think I saw why does it look like I was like white stuff on his face what are you talkin about you see that like how it looks like he sort of has like a sun suntan lotion on her something definition for guys leaning on you definitely just doesn't want to just being smart physical size and power and the more he does this to my house with all the ways digging into the body the more he does this morning to take away from Asia dolls ability to explode on him because my spittle need to do here big step to the left and pushrod electron mackage for sure you got to try to turn them he's got Escape he's got a Semana to get out of this clinch but it's like how much energy is it going to take to do that and if he does do that will boost mobile to put him right back on there he's got to do something or he's losing this round he's only got 55 seconds to go right oh and he keeps shoulder checking them meme ahzidal smiling but he's for sure given up this round but I'll still has a full gas tank right now mid body camera shop that was a nice little kick big control are you stand up what is that mean it's good yeah it was the contrast by the way there's no you must listen to my podcast with James Nestor. A lot of gook over his left eye look at that s*** they should wipe that off that's always your Romero sure it'll get into his eyeball though I think it's just Vaseline but adrenaline to stop cuts to stop bleeding which is interesting I wonder how that even works can I get the cream I think it's like an ointment like an adrenaline ointment that they use to stop the bleeding I've never asked the doctor about it but I know that they have heard commentators talk about it how they use adrenaline if you ever interviewed Tyson Fury yes he's awesome any chance you got to use the kick machine machine I'd love to know what he'd score on that if he tried from a part of that dude could kick if he could land a kick with his punching and just brains well ngannou punches almost as hard as I kick like when you look at the meter like what it registers he is a hardest registered punch on that thing before while I the hardest registered some other dude bested me damn I f***** my Liam Neeson kick as hard as negreanu can punch your harder harder holy s*** yeah but it's all right oh 3rd round here things are heating up anyway I tore my Meniscus doing it like an idiot me and Joe Schilling were doing it I had my pants on no warm-up 52 years old full blast kick and spat like an idiot and then the next day my Meniscus was sore I got an MRI have a little tear in there now been working on it ever since trying to fix it at stretching is important it's not even stretching it's getting warmed up but like sweating this is nicaea Taylor break here for Jorge what are you doing here I'm confused I didn't see that maybe it was a different shot the groin but I think they may have shown on punch after that well what's that that's the part that was weird because it cut his nuts yeah yeah that was that it wasn't the punch because that's when he rat reacts on the other angle Cup going to let him squeeze my junk like that who's your favorite Referee Joe Rogan Herb Dean is the best but there's a lot of guys that are really good is like there's that level that Herb Dean level now especially now the Big John McCarthy's retired but there's a lot of really good guys I just want to see her being I get a feel safe going to f*** this so weird I'll look at that big takedown for Osman this is big this is big if we can get a couple of takedowns like this that's big and here is inside control big 89 this is the first fight where is mom's working with Trail until he's down in Denver with Justin gaethje and and that's where Rose namajunas is training to shout out to Pat Barry that they all training Denver I know some people say you're better off training at sea level because it's sea level you could put in more work cuz there's more air and really what the altitude is 4 is 4 recovery so you should sleep at altitude but train at sea level that's what a lot of people think that's what like the current cutting-edge science seems to indicate so you think that the may be the best thing to do is to train at sea level and sleep in an oxygen tent sleeping ever was when I lived in Snowmass Village waking up in the middle of night should end it in my life I would leave the window open to in is there Joey you can't find sleep like this in Los Angeles you're there will be a helicopter at some point within 6 hours I mean I didn't realize until I woke up I didn't hear a peep for 8-10 hours something crazy there's nobody in the hotel so it's on the 12th floor fought it off it's so different with no crowd menu hear the shots when you're their lives you hear them breathing is crazy it's wild because I'll do it has even when it's packed Arenas you can hear so much so I can't even imagine what it's like it's amazing when it's empty to be honest I kind of like it better energy of a big crowd that's pretty amazing too it's not like it's bad but there's something extra special about being able to watch these fights with no audience when you're there live because you first what you feel so fortunate that man I can't believe I'm here watching Tyron Woodley and Gilbert burns live you know no audience but not that many people got to see that fight live he's just fighting off his takedowns all the time now man or he's just having a hard time with this wrestling and here we are in the fourth just got him covered I wonder what if anything would have been different if he did have a full training camp for this because Usman just looks Sensational saying something it's 9:30 in the morning there right now so when was the first fight I can't imagine them ever getting going trying for that schedule though to them it's got to still be so the first I was like what 6 hours ago please start fighting at 3:30 in the morning they did that once and we had to do that one, the one we were at in Sweden I'm Obama and yeah he's try to lure him into something so he does he does he's rushes oh s*** oh that take down nice damn straight press these fights are so like these kind of fights are so interesting to me because it's like you see a guy who's as strong as it was wanted such a good wrestling figures out how to get a guy up against the cage and I know for a lot of people that s***'s boring cuz it's not a lot happens but it's so hard for him to avoid like as us Signing Time nice elbow as a fighting type it just cuts out all the Striking cuts out all the danger and then Usman completely controls what's happening I was really interested in seeing Gilbert Burns vs tomorrow to cuz they train together they know each other s*** wow this round's going to be tremendous guys I bet this is going to be tremendous what do you tell him I said all right now if you're in his corner do not let him touch you do not let him grab ahold of you and if you guys will hold you you got to fight for your life you only have 5 minutes just give everything you got for that 5 minutes but do not let him grab you do not let him press you against cage don't resign yourself deposition either I will go around 5 it's just that clinched so hard for Usman to be denied you know he's just so good at getting it and then what do you do if you can't get him off you he's had mozzarella on the cage like like khabib keeps people on the ground yeah but there's a big difference between those two things right not as good as good as getting it out of the ground getting out of the ground like we could be moved us has the most dominant yeah but it's still it's like that was Randy Couture's move to get guys up against the cage and beat him up against the cage they couldn't do s*** wear you out. There it is Rosemonts on top here Relentless pressure minutes just know there's no substitute for that Elite wrestler grappling ability those Elite wrestlers when you get that National Champion world champion grappling like Daniel Cormier tomorrow except one of these like top-flight wrestlers they get ahold of motherfukers and it's like that's just a such a big Advantage this is not good for Mazda doll 3 minutes ago stuck on is here right now. I just got his need ya Camaro does it looks like that yeah it does it looks like he's that's his his left knee that's interesting right police move see how he's using his toes so crazy Boswell got to get out of there man he's got to figure out a way to get out of there if he's underneath this for the remainder of the fight he is not going to win this f****** fight no chance but if you can get up and get out of here Anything Can Happen 155 all sliding in the mount it's going to be a lot of energy to try to get up from here man lose one's keeping that wait on them got that front headlock anyway manhandles which is f****** crazy what is he doing here it looks as he going for an anaconda choke it's hard to tell here you might be gone for an anaconda choke I don't think so look at his right arm you could see it down he can only use mine can only meet him in the body right yes or the legs oh he's up he's up 40 seconds that's why people don't like these positions but goddamnit they're both on their feet 10-second well the winner and still for sure right absolutely

you have no idea what I've done for my life from the fist fights to the arguments to the beatings I still remember my mother taking me into a restaurant bathroom and hold them in the was that when they had lock I'm thinking about talking about 1968-69 please and my mom and my stepdad and then somebody else will be there like a chick that would help my mom and sure enough he would come over but did the mom in my ass and then look at me in San Jose to give you a needle think about it at my mama go what's going on he has to think about it so that they were going to f****** Paula to put on Cuban music and I was like put cartoons on like it was in that whoever evitable and then then he would have liked to drink that means it's going to hurt they would have to hold me down and give me a shot so then my stepfather mom the babysitter and my mom and my mom will be like I'll f****** Knock You Out stop crying your f*** be a man I stopped it so the next day my temperature will go up so he knew he was such good friends in my this is a continuity thing why don't I just leave you with a penicillin put in the refrigerator I'll give you a couple syringes and whenever he gets sick just f****** stick them so we were at a restaurant we went to a fancy white people restaurant next to Kearny New Jersey violins like white people this isn't like these are very conservative white people and I'm not this is a double whammy of the day you ready I don't f****** like milk and my mother used to look under my eyelids I don't f****** like milk I just didn't like milk but at my Cuban people have this thing that they look on the eyelids and my mom will go year your week somewhere so she would make me drink milk or whatever sweater restaurant okay and I'm like my mom's like drinking milk I go I want Hershey's chocolate you know the powder in those days we were here to talk about it or the strawberry strawberry the chocolate please put a piece of ice cream will give me a milkshake or not this m*********** did you got a glass of milk and he put ice cream on the f****** thing like a scoop of ice cream so my mom's I drink the milk I go it's just f****** milk with an ice cream out of my mom's like I'm a no f****** movie is today I'm going to drop you off at the school but you better drink that f****** milk with a white people restaurant you understand me and my mom goes you got about 5 minutes to drink Bishop Michael Catholic futon does that a bring you back with a suit but mom cuz if you don't f****** drink and I'm going to Port over your f****** head this restaurant and I was like I'm telling you right now what to do my mom's like wipe your face so when she wipes my face Joe Rogan do you have a fucken temperature because I was such a sickly f****** kids is crazy ladies room lock the door please don't make me give you a beating in this f****** bathroom store I'm not doing it and that's when the beating started and she got me in one of those f****** things shoot me that thing about a 9 to get a blood clot because my ass for me tightening up we've got like a purple thing all the way down my leg like I'm by the nurse they put me in the hospital at night for lung infection in the middle of that I was so scared I pissed the bed there was a rubber bed for the pissed on going to the mattress you just swimming in your own face in the morning let me get my head together to bother with a needle play the shape of me and she told Matt the 12 the doctor says we have to do right now have balls but this b**** activated me so much you wanted to see what I was telling her I'm going to go down I'm telling you I'm going to go down stand up it's better if you stand up what's going on the hallway and the noise will distract you you won't get that scared feeling I said this is not going to end like this b**** was not leaving she put the f****** toolbar on my arms your little cart I'll never forget 1979 show little f****** car she put the thing around me all I know is she stuck the needle in next thing you know I'm hearing Sirens okay and the car play the wake me up pick me up something I'll never forget that shot me through that day I still remember from September they let me out the day I'll lie lost the Larry Holmes own goddamn 28th 1979 they let me out to the party with the bracelet the whole thing we will f***** up but one thing I remember about that experience was the third night hours there how scared I was and the guy next to me was in The Old Man and I and I'm blowing farts in the whole night season that died and he keeps just farted a two-man bad the two-man room you either shittin tonight are you doing surgery in the morning the dock I'm listening for the dino you can hear that and they didn't have PPE and this ship was coming out of his ass dr. Kaweblum who do you call when you called like that they make cold who the people who make cold like whatever make cold I don't know I like f****** rub my shoulders let me know they came in very time an alarm off the water up his ass and that night I had my own room I'm in that f****** by myself like mr. Diaz was sorry about that I don't worry about nothing what do you mean my friends were coming in with cases of beer you were partying what is a pack of nips cuz I knew from grammar school is Jersey City so the good old days they were like you do on September 20th the good old days they would like you know what you'll be fine go see your doctor I never went to see the doctor again I think I said that night September 28th was laying Larry Holmes Muhammad Ali

violet light kills it almost instantly and simulated sunlight kills it almost instantly and they believe regular sunlight kill killing almost instantly and this was something to Brett Weinstein at talked about on the podcast that I did with them that it's sort of indicates that this thing might have developed in a lab to spread faster indoors there's so much creepy s*** about this this f****** disease it's definitely but it's a man-made disease they they manipulated this virus and they made it more potent I made it that way so they can study it and it got out and that's why it spread so fast and that's why it's so weird that's why that's such a weird weird effects on different people and you know Callens got it right now and I was talking to him on the phone he's like it's so strange it's like one time because I'll feel fine and then an hour later I feel terrible I'm coughing like crazy my head hurts and goes and then after that I'll be fine again he goes like I feel fine then I don't feel nights are rough did he mention that sometimes nights are up to wake up in middle and coughing fits of and sometimes his head hurts and says like flu head like stuff to eat like real bad headaches but you know he didn't take hydroxychloroquine here's something funny his doctor said to him this is what the doctor says Shawty said I don't know what we're your political leanings are he's like what he goes because this drug hydroxy when is a drug that Trump kept promoting and he goes but put that aside he's like I don't give a f*** does it work yields yes it works so he gets on his works but it's particularly effective he said in the very beginning of the infection so he gets on hydroxychloroquine and he does vitamin IV drips 5 days in a row by the fourth day he's good he's still has a problem is taste and his sense of smell but he doesn't feel bad at all four days in Calallen 11 days or whatever it is 12 days he still f***** up he still feels like s*** he's got no energy he didn't do anything now kalenjin want to take the drugs and he didn't even want to take the vitamins he said he you know he's got a weird thoughts on vitamins I don't understand it like he thinks there vitamins don't really work unlike like what do you think all about vitamins you should be able to get enough from your food I might do you eat spaghetti you should be able to get enough from your food I might do you eat spaghetti

if there's a limit one hit is Okay Google's little thing for this little bit of the limit Eagles and wait I was running a Nickel Creek Italian translate listen to you you don't want to put a cotton swab in my notebook when I woke up. The line was just one my nose and the spots are coming out of my nose this year f****** stupid person wait online a result of what that did to people if we go backwards I'm going to see how many people are gay because for years rats like a minute and said that with a f****** in your ass and look at him like make eye contact and talk to him then he would take it out wipe it and then I look real close tell you your 91.1

talking about the changes in human diet and eating soft foods and how it affects the way the job develops and the size of the jaw and that there's a way to improve that which I found fascinating that this was something when you set out to write a book about breathing the last thing you think you're going to be doing is handing you know around a bunch of ancient skulls and end looking at teeth but that's where this journey led me I had heard from some biological Anthropologist that are face changed and that our mouths have gotten too small and that was one of the reasons so many of us were breathing so poorly and so I thought well this sounds interesting these people are legit I want to check it out and if you take an ancient skull anything older than 500 years old 5000 years old 50,000 years old you're going to see by and large by 99% chance these girls going to have perfectly straight teeth then never had their wisdom teeth removed they never had braces any orthodonture thank the head straight teeth because I had these very wide and Largemouth and his powerful jaws to start getting into the modern era of industrialized food mouth starts shrinking so why do we have crooked teeth not from genetics because our mouths of grown so small that the teeth have nowhere to go so they grow crooked and what else happens when you have a mouth is too small for its teeth have a smaller Airway so this is one of the reasons why so many people have snoring copying other respiratory problems this sounded so bizarre cuz it's nothing I've ever learned in school but all anyone needs to do is look up some ancient skulls if you're online and check out their teeth and check out how they have these huge Jaws is big flat wide faces powerful faces and they all had this and then you go into the wild 5400 different mammals and check out and see how many of crooked teeth the answer is 0 so some some Bulldogs to do because they've been bred to have a flat face just like humans but but animals in the wild have straight teeth and and we did too as a species we we have straight teeth but I'm but because of industrialization specifically because of food are miles of grown too small you would never believe that someone told me that other than reading your book and and kind of understanding where you're where you coming from I would think this is nonsense it's genetics yeah I like them why people have small hands or people have big feet or whatever well it's become a heritable trait so so what's happened now is they found the researchers who who who done this Robert porcini worked on the stuff for 30 years is 250 scientific papers on it they found within the first generation of switching to industrialize Foods about 50% of the population is going to have malocclusion which means a crooked jaw crooked teeth after that about 60 to 70% Next Generation after that about 80% after that look around that's us now about 90% so if he's looking at fetuses in the womb and is seen their mouth size is too small and they have the backward slant to their faces just like I have just like so many people in the population have if you were to measure a skull and you were to draw one line from its ear to its Elvis and another line perpendicular to that almost every single ancient skull would be above that line very powerful jaw now 90% of modern schools are below it so they are behind it so and this is happening now it is becoming a heritable trait so it's so kids are or messed up to to begin with which is why so many kids are have sleep apnea and snoring now which is so injuries to their to their health and this came about because they weren't chewing copper food didn't need the muscles and what can be done to sort of reverse out of mitigate that in adulthood it's harder and in for kids it's not easier because their muscles are and their phones are much more malleable but that's exactly what they found is once you introduce we used to chew for about 4 hours a day okay. That's just how it was from the dawn of time to to about 500 years ago but as we started getting chest in white flour as rice became we started taking the determine the brand with rice it's just the policyed as things began to get canned and bottled if you think about even what's considered healthy food right now smoothies avocado oatmeal all this stuff is so much power bars so I tried to do in my own face as as a experiment for kids what they're finding is these problems need to be diagnosed very early and they need to be treated and what they do is they widen the mouth to the way that they were supposed to be 500 years ago so we're changing our bodies by by force of will to the way that the nature had made them before we messed them up what was that you were talking about that develop some sort of a retainer that actually change the volume of your jaw as an adult and change the volume of your mouths right so I had crooked teeth growing up I had braces I extractions I had beer and me and everyone I knew had the same thing it was never if you were going to get it it's just what when are you going to get your braces but they're not looking at Airway Health right so so what happens just as a principal you've got a mouth is too small for his face that teeth are growing in crooked you extract teeth from that get some head gear and go you're creating there's a significant argument by many people in the field that you're making a smallmouth smaller and and one leader in the field dr. Michael Galvez at 50% of people have Orthodontics are going to have more breathing problems because of it Embraces as well to make them there's this the very first Orthodontics weren't craning teeth in to make them straight they would expand the mouth cuz even back then hundred twenty years ago they knew our mouths were growing too small that they knew that so the first devices I thought this is fascinating they were using this for kids with cleft palates had it all of these other problems where they were having problem chewing and and breathing so they would expand their mouths with this device that went to the roof of your mouth and had a little dowel screw in he slowly opened it up to expand the map what does it feel like it doesn't feel great so this is where I think a lot of Orthodontics is heading because it allows you to have straighter teeth but it also opens your Airway but how long do you keep it in your EQ in your mouth like braces all day long and now that the one that I use is called a homeo block and this guy been using it for 30 years and I used it at night so if you put it on pallet upper palate and you slow you have this little screw thing this little handle that every couple weeks you open it a little more to slowly so if you have one of those on your upper palate so that can open okay that's that's what it's made to do it can open and you can widen your mouth and adulthood and I showed this through two cats cans and by that you can open your Airway and you can breathe better and how long did you wear it for I work for 1 year 1 year 2 to the week I took the other cat scan and you gain how much volume in your mouth I gained about five pennies worth of bone in my face which is crazy yeah five pennies yeah so it's a lot of bone man so we've been we've been told that we can't grow bone past 30 right it's just entropy we're only going to be losing we can we can stop it from from disappearing we can do some things to help prevent that lost but we can't build it but we can we can build it in the center of our face in the next Hill you can really change the structure of your face from doing in your face you can add more bone you can model bone inside of your face you look better all your kitchen tell you good looking man but I mean did you think you look better I will not say better I want use those maybe just know it worse worst people be before warned don't build bone and about I did notice after after about six weeks of wearing this thing people were like food what happened what are you doing listen you can see it for yourself in the knee thing is it's not subjective it's not what I think I look different from those cats cans and there's metrics to it so so and also open my Airways it it it allowed me to expand I don't know how much is probably a 15% 20% but it was mostly the toning of the airway why did you stop using it after a year I'm still using it you are so right for the book for the research I said I'm going to do this for one year and I'm going to wear it every night I'm really going to be dedicated even after having a few few beers it was like the last thing I want to do is put this thing in my mouth and go to sleep but I did it because I was curious cuz I heard the stories I've seen the case studies I've seen the data but I wanted to see what would happen in my in my own body and I tell you on the subjective level I breathe more easily now than then I can ever remember breathing I haven't had pneumonia and bronchitis any of those problems but there's a bunch of factors do to right there's the nose breathing the breathwork so it's a combination of all these things yeah but but nose breathing when to help you build more bone rider for the horse so a lot of that was due to the this device not only spread open that suture in the upper palate but also stimulated chewing stress so on one side there was this little bump so every time you close your mouth you got some chewing stress which would stimulate stem cells which would go into the sutras and build more bone the differences when you clench your jaw is right now just like you know what you're boxing you're intense you're clenching your jaws that does not stimulate that that good beneficial chewing stress okay because our bodies identify that as sympathetic stress of cortisol levels go up right that means growth isn't going to happen but if you think about eating a big piece of steak or a carrot you're not chewing on both sides of your molars you're chewing on one side or the other so when you stimulate the stress on one side of the other you're if you next time you're chewing on something thing I think about that that's why you salivate and and you become more relaxed and that's when that growth can happen on one side or the other stimulate stem cells that don't get stimulated if you just like biting down on a mouthpiece because of cortisol and I'll see to see what life was like on the other side so nice but but I got curious I talked to the guy who gave me this device doctor Ted Bell for and he's he's use this thing for it for 30 years and his case studies are pretty fascinating and I talked to him he's like we should do another CAT scan see what happened didn't quite admit to him that I had stopped using it so I felt a little guilty and now for the past about month-and-a-half of up and back on the back on the train to see what happen going to take another one just for kicks I'm not going to write about the books already done but I just I'm curious to see what will happen if you keep wearing this if you can really keep him prove you the Swami Rama of Orthodontics if you can hold that bad boy in your mouth for a few years I mean I'll be really fast and if you change your face and all sudden you have like this big Clark Kent Superman type jaw can you let me check out here for a couple years and then I'm just going to focus on this all day get ahold of that bad boy in your mouth for a few years I mean I'll be really fast and if you change your face and all sudden you have like this big Clark Kent Superman type jaw can you let me check out here for a couple years and then I'm just going to focus on this all day to stay in a sauna to do what you got to do

Somerset this technology is cheap now to get so even if if you were to show up with with $2,000 worth of equipment you could see if there was some scientific basis to what these people are doing but from my understanding I didn't go down to the chi hole too too deep but a lot of these people aren't showing up and and offering volunteering to have their skills you know tested and and that's how science worksheet you have to test it nobody wants to do with Swami Rama did right. Who wants to sit in a while some people do sit in a cave for 30 years right away fruit for years at a time in a dark cave and just sit there and breathe so I just in the modern age I don't know what was cool about him is he wasn't the only one who could do this so they were researchers in the twenties and in the forties who went out with a bunch of equipment whatever equipment they could Cobble together and tested other yogis who were able to do this exact same thing right so so Swami was part of this long lineage of people who had this knowledge is it still there could be but again I don't think it's online I think you really have to get out in the weeds and an early who's trust in order to get that story and what is what is the history of these people doing this like what what was their initial motivation I mean is there a written history of this the earliest evidence that we have for breathing practices dates back about four thousand five thousand years from these little statuettes in the Indus Valley which is in Northern India so there was this huge thriving civilization they had paved roads they had running water they were dealing with in Copper and they had no in this in this whole civilization they still have not found any political or governmental buildings they haven't found any religious iconography so these people in some ways could have been more more advanced than we are now and they had all of these figures of these people in these these yoga poses with their stomachs out so that's how they date the earliest archaeological evidence of that and since then then all of these practices were moved to the rig Veda and and all of the earliest yogatx and they were codified in The Yoga sutras of patanjali is that's where a lot of the yoga methods come from that's about 2,000 years old when they were creating this you would think that people were hunting and Gathering it was probably a very hard life well not not in that Civilization writer they got to a point where they had some sort of Agriculture or some some structures and buildings but how did they get to the point for cuz the rest of the world didn't obviously didn't do this is not like common practice in Germany or in Italy or in all these other civilizations like what made these people focus on breathwork well it could have been but we just haven't found anything related to that yet right so if you think about hunter-gatherers we're imagining them as man they're just working all day they're hunting all day the gathered that they weren't from from what I know and from what I've seen of the science there in probably three or four hours of work you know and then you have no other distractions to spend time and in Building Systems of breathing and health which is what started in in ancient China which is what start in India which is what's ancient Greece think about all the distractions were dealing with today constant interruptions if you've already done your work for the day there's nothing else to do you're going to get more interest in your going to have the time to do some empirical studies to to see what works and what doesn't just seems to me that like learning something like that learning something like prolong breathwork in the benefits of it mean it seems like this is a really long Turn Practice it doesn't show you immediate benefits yes and no I think that you can take someone who has a serious problem maybe someone who's who's already very fit it's going to take a while to really see those big benefits we see that with athletes with nasal breathing takes them weeks or sometimes months to really see came to Performance but if you've got someone with a chronic condition like asthma or anxiety who are struggling to breathe every single day and you teach them some basic breathing some normal breathing patterns their lives can be absolutely transformed we seen this and study after study so these people they're breathing has become so disrupted their breathing in such an unhealthy way that they don't know what proper breathing is just shifting that has a tremendous impact

what what made you want to write this like where this come from is actually two things about 10 years ago 11 years ago I had this really weird experience was in San Francisco it's a lot of breathwork yoga stuff going on there and I kept getting pneumonia a surface lot at Ocean Beach and I thought that was the reason so I kept getting bronchitis pneumonia a year after year it's just kept happening so a doctor friend of mine suggested a breathing class might help I didn't know much about this I'm down signed up and was sitting in the corner of the studio cold room legs crossed breathing in this rhythmic pattern nothing crazy just and then really slow and I sweated through my t-shirt to my socks my hair was sopping wet sweat all over my face so I went back to her and I said what happened like your doctor you should know this and she said oh you must have had a fever or the room it's been too hot so she had no idea but I didn't know what to do with that story so I just kind of filed it away forgot about it for a number of years until I met some freedivers either people who have through the Power of Will and Naval themselves to hold their breath for 6 7 8 minutes at a time and dive to dap's Far Below with any scientists thought possible so I thought wow there's something in breathing here that I don't know about and I figured other people might not know about as well really interesting you know I've known a bunch of free divers and I've known a bunch of a Jiu-Jitsu people that got really into yoga primarily because of Hixon Gracie Hixon Gracie do you know his famous probably the most famous of the of the like the classic Jiu-Jitsu people he's known as being the very best he was like one of the original real pioneers of Jiu-Jitsu in America as well and there's a documentary on him called choke have you seen it I have not know it's really fascinating just documentary he's doing all this crazy stomach breath stuff that Yogi stuff no cuz he's over he's really into yoga as well for flexibility and balance all those different things and he was probably the first guy to introduce yoga to Jiu-Jitsu as well but him and his son who's also world champion in Jiu-Jitsu just stressed constantly that it's all about the breath and that breathing is it sad but it's everything for jiu jitsu it's everything from martial arts everything for your mindset to find out in the foundation of so many different sports I think a lot of that has been forgotten another coaches in the 50s used to have their Runners take a big mouthful of water run around the track and then I'd have to spit out that same amount of water into a cup to force them to breathe through their nose to force them to move their diaphragm up and down a little more because breathing is so essential to the recovery Thuringer the performance about your book was the experiment with plugging up the nose for what you guys do for a month is it was 10 days send it and that that tend to dye my nose was broken most of my life I had a useless nose 12:40 and then I got an operation to have my deviated septum corrected and that turbinates shave down and then it changed my life it really did like I didn't realize like what like the term mouth breather is a really interesting to term for moron but I I felt like a moron like after I get my nose fixed why didn't I do this before like I was robbing myself of oxygen yeah and there's so much science supporting how injury is it is to constantly be breathing through your mouth there's there's no debate about that but what people don't realize is about twenty-five to fifty percent of population eventually breathe through the mouth they don't realize the neurological problems that this causes the respiratory problems this causes problems with snoring sleep apnea even metabolic disorders I mean goes on and on and on so I have been talking to the chief of radiology research at Stanford done many interviews over series of months he's a big nose guy so he said this is the most amazing organ no one's talking about it at the NIH there's no school for studying the nose and its effects and he thought that was criminal so he had warned me how bad mouth breathing was but no one knew how quickly that damage came on so we we knew that after years it can change the structure of your face it's so common in kids that has a term called adenoid face if you see these kids with very long faces cuz they've been mouth breathing so long that their faces have actually that the musculature in the skeleton shirt has have changed so so but but no one knew if a month and year how soon those those issues came on so I asked him I said will want want you test if you're one of the best universities in the world you have the means to do this and he thought in his words it would be unethical because he knew how damaging that it could be for people and so I volunteered I said want you tested on me I'll get somebody else to do it they had no money for this so we had to pay for the study just to experience what what that was like and then the point was to do some like jackass stunt it was to lower ourselves a new position my body certainly knew I think I was mouth breathing too much of my youth and that twenty-five to fifty percent of population knows and actually measure what happens that's right and it could no one knows for sure because the less you use your nose the less you're going to be able to use your nose just like any other muscle so when people start habitually breathing through their mouths their noses going to start to close up and we know this from the doctor speech language pathology at Stanford she measured people who had laryngectomies holes drilled in their throats so they could breathe she found between 2 months and two years their noses were completely blocked zero are coming in so the more you use it then going to be able to use it to the less you use it the more after you will you will be to have problems with wings when is the process will why does the nose close up it would seem that it's a whole like why would that whole clothes it's not in use this terminates all those tissues just just start closing up and so using your nose actually makes the opening wider absolutely relay for absolute my nose got too physically wider after my operation it's really strange like I look back on the photos from and I was 40 on my actual physical and I I attributed to that fact that they put these big foam things in these plastic spacers in there because the doctor that did the operation he forget the. Of time afterwards I had to have these things stuffed into my nose and this plastic that was sort of sutured in place to hold it into position and I attributed that to why my nose got wider but I noticed it like with a year two after it like a nose is wider like it's different like if I look at older pictures of myself my nose is more narrow and now it's more flared out and I felt like it was because of that but now that you're saying is now I'm thinking maybe it's just from breathing out of it well surgical interventions are going to open that are way there's no doubt about right but but we know the more that you breathe through your nose the more that it's going to open up and you can see this with people who are habitual mouth breathers or also joggers decades they start breathing through the nose at the beginning it's really really hard that I can't do this this is awful then weeks go by months go by and their noses open up and then allows them to to breathe through the nose the benefits of that there are innumerable so many benefits of nasal breathing out only oxygen but it helps defend your body humidifies air conditions are on and on and on and this is something I just don't think a lot of people realize and in from the researchers I've been talking to they were bit frustrated too seen so many chronic conditions tied to mouth breathing and how so many of those could either be improved upon or sometimes at work here by switching the pathway in which you breathe so just breathe through your nose make your actual nostril opening wider I don't know that I am and I haven't seen any papers on that so it's what my nostril holes and everything's probably with plastic and stretching it out I would assume so now what did you do for you referencing a book he doesn't give a f*** about mouth about nose breathing mouth breathing he just goes just breathe breathe through your mouth any impact on you I'm talking about cool mouth so what he's done is he wants to make this easy and accessible for people to so many people can't breathe through their noses so they got they can't get that breath in those 30 huge breaths you need to take right they take too long to do it so he says it doesn't matter don't pay attention you need to get that breath in you need to expand your lungs and for the rest of the time you know the benefits of nasal breathing that habitual breathing is is so important to help it seems so strange to me reading your book that I'm just learning this in terms of like I mean I've been doing Athletics my whole life how do I not know that breathing through the nose is more beneficial how do coaches not know this this is something I just got running up against over and over again and when I first start writing this book my friends journalist and author said you write a book about breathing what why would you write a book about breathe there's a good new book about walking on me quite quite a bit until they heard some of the details of it and the stuff is like it's been right in front of us the whole time and it's so obvious that no one's really paying attention to it and the scientific Foundation all the research is there and that's what makes these these researchers the scientist so frustrated today we have 50 years of Rock Solid science here showing the problems with mouth breathing prawns with snoring and sleep apnea no one's really been paying attention we're treating all these separate problems that are associated with these core issues and we're not looking at the Quarry issue and I think that breathing has to be considered along with diet and exercise as a pillar of Health cuz even if you eat keto vegan paleo whatever even if you exercise all the time if you're not breathing right you're never really going to be healthy we know that to be the truth so air comes through your mouth air comes to your nose what is it turn the air coming through your nose your nose if you were to take your fist you've got a really big V so someone with a slightly smaller Fist and to take that Fist and imagine just pushing it inside of your head that's about the volume of your nose and all the sinus cavities so they even stretch up above your eyes so volume of your V that's crazy it's about a billiard ball depends on what size fish so-so in Endicott Concha because it looks exactly like a seashell if you were to split a seashell and in half and look at it that's what's happening in your nose and all of the stuff evolve this way for a reason so that are the comes in through the nose is slow down it's filtered it's humidified and its condition so by the time it gets to your lungs your lungs can absorb that oxygen so much easier and the the nose is really the first line of defense another amazing thing with a nose is it produces something called nitric oxide which is this wonderful molecule that is a vasodilator that plays an essential role in oxygen delivery and also helps battle off viruses bacteria and other pathogens so this is all happening in the nose and slowing down that are all of these other function allow us to gain about 20% more oxygen breathing through the nose than breathing through the mouth so you can breathe less more by breathing through the nose wow breathing through the mouth even though you know you're filling your lungs up even though you're you're taking a big deep breath you're feeling your lungs up you're not getting as much oxygen that's right because you can over Breeze went when people at a gym or when people are jogging see him really going to get the maximum amount of oxygen in that's not what happened what is happening to body so you are offloading the CO2 by off too much CO2 you're causing constriction in your circulation so right now if we were to breathe 30 huge breaths you'll feel some tingling in your head to feel something maybe your fingertips looking cool your toes will get to cool that's not from an increase of oxygen to the opposite that's happening this from a decrease of circulation so your body wants to be in Balance you want to have the right amount of CO2 and oxygen for Optimum delivering and that's what the nose helps you to do that was one of the craziest things about the book talking about Yogi's that were able to vary the temperature between each hand know on the same hand in the same as same hand one area was gray the other was red in the same not even this in this on the same hand and you know when I came across this people think this is impossible who did the study some guy and garage it was at the menninger clinic which was the world released in the US at least in the US the largest psychiatric research facility at the time and a Navy physicist did these tests was reported in the New York Times they haven't found someone who had the powers of Swami Rama they found I think wins about as close as we've gotten to that guy

it's so interesting to me that breathing and breath work and knowing how to breathe properly is it's not common knowledge but it's so critical to help and it's free it's not like we're not talking about something that requires devices or or like it could but Joe long learning curve for just just some of these benefits of so many of them and especially the most simple ones right anyone can breathe in 6 seconds in 6 inside out if you want to really go up to the next stage and figure out what breathing can really do for you on an on a bigger and more powerful level you can do to mow you can do when I'm off you can do holotropic you can do Cree as you can do pranayamas they're all doing the same thing I've done it but it makes you trip right interesting experience in a hospital 11,000 people were put through this thing and they said it was more effective than any other therapy me personally that the science is much more thin in holotropic breathwork and what I've been told by the instructors kind of threw me off where there like they sit you in a room and a blast music and for 3 hours you breathe as hard as you can and they told me that you're going to be able to enter into the space because so much oxygen is getting into your the opposite is happening you or inhibiting blood flow to your brain and so your brain is processing that as a threat and sometimes you inhibit so much blood flow that perhaps your brain is interpreting this as though you are dying which is why so many people have this reaction where they said I am reborn after holotropic and that's awesome I don't want to take that away from anyone but but what I've seen is that the site there is no there's been a ton of subjective anecdotal the studies not a ton of a few of them but the actual science behind it no one's gone into an fmri and looked at what's really happening and that's something I really want to do and hopefully I'm going to be doing in the next next few months just for curiosity that makes sense if people haven't psychedelic experiences cuz many psychedelic experiences are tied to near-death experiences why do people have near-death experiences they report these moments that what a lot of people experience on psychedelics so what they're doing but through this holotropic breathing that are harming themselves right or do we not know this is not not that I know of the the doctor who put 11,000 people and said there's nobody had any problems there were no side effects so I've heard that some people can can freak out I heard that there's possible bowel issues in Volvo and some some real meltdowns in in the class that I took I wasn't sure how much was somatic and how much was actually because of the breathing I had a pretty strange experience with a guy turn into a wolf for a while maybe he really became a wolf we will never know which is why this stuff should be studied you know there's a lot of talk that breathing this way will trigger endogenous DMT and that's the reason people trip out so hard I tried to do a study in which I would read this way and they would take blood before and after but the scientist that I was talking to said it would be such a small amount they wouldn't be able to detect it so there's there's a lot of gray area with which to me is not a bad thing it's great there still Mysteries to breath there's mystery the human body right and if people are finding great benefit from this and there's no side-effect than then that's great I just found it was a little little thinner than the other techniques like wemhoff method or like Crea super-solid he was a lawyer working in San Francisco and then left and went to live off the grid in a cabin Casino which is completely legit and admirable and he was he was a groovy dude and afterwards really warm welcoming guy so I don't want to take away any any process that he went through he said it was very cleansing for for himself and I think that that's that's great you're a very nice guy talk to you know where we can find them he's out in the tundra right now you got to go hunt him down that was cool but the whole time I was watching him breathing and he wasn't really breathing any differently than me cuz what you do is you have a half the class of the sitters for the people who are breathing and watch over these people in case they have problem so I was a sitter during this process I was not breathing I was looking as respiration really didn't look any different so I'm wondering how much of this is is the setting setting of this year in Mendocino are the hot springs there's really loud music fake Louis the music is this you know that's that's something I wish they could have worked on a little bit about Allah wish but it was a lot of like fake keyboard Lutz & the faked any symbol crashes that the macom and good good good for them it would be interesting to mix it up with with 3 hours of Death Metal and just see where that would take that one some good Upland that that would be fine so when you did it so you were a sitter but then you also did it right and when you did it what did you experience it definitely affects you because you're breathing in a certain way it's going to affect your physiology so I got really cold I got really hot and got really Spacey I fell that was kind of dreaming for a while 3 hours is a long time to breathe as hard as you possibly can but the shifts in temperature in in circulation cause the body's trying to compensate right so the more you're breathing your pH is going to be you know I'm going down so you can becoming more alkaline so so your body doesn't like that it really wants the pH because all the cellular function happen at a certain pH 7.4 so it was to me it was fascinating to feel my boss fighting against this and constantly trying to balance itself throughout the whole thing but it it's definitely Spacey there's no doubt about it Spacey Woody blunt you are extremely light-headed and feel very high side of Ben Greenfield about it and he said it was the most profound spiritual experiences he's ever had just by breathing a lot of people say the same thing you know what those subjective experiences are cool but I think would be a lot more interesting to to find out constant to everybody not just one person when they do this in to look at the brain and to look at the body and really Analyze That to see if there's some physiological reaction would we know what's happening with blood flow to the brain we know what happens to the brain when it's deny blood pressure blood flow to certain areas but but how does that affect us psychologically afterwards how does that affect us physically I think these are good questions and how long does it take you to feel pretty quickly I went outside afterwards and drank a beer in my car and just sorta re-centered but but it was mostly just that the feeling of extreme lightheadedness dreaming us and then everything just sort of boils back down and in your back in Mendocino at the hot tubs you know when they sell you on this like what they have a class for holotropic breathing play many medical benefits but they say it is a spiritual journey and for many people it is and and I think that's a wonderful thing that they're getting benefit from this and they use this this fuzzy language like like that because they can't say it's going to help with your asthma the independent studies and is so similar to holotropic the difference is you don't breathe super hard for 3 extremely intensely about 5 minutes then slow it down but let me ask you about the actual technique like how does it how do you do it you breathe as hard and as fast as you are able to bring in big deep breaths whatever you want to do whatever you want to do whatever you want to do state route to the mouth is going to allow you to get more air in in a real this was larger volume by stanislav grof who was one of the first test subjects of LSD and he started using LSD Johns Hopkins other universities and found had this profound effect for people with with schizophrenia and other serious problems you got banned in what 68 and so he wanted to the way to allow people to have these experiences without the drug and so he developed the specifically to mimic the effects of LSD so and he's he's written 12 books on this stuff some of the science mostly the psychology of what's happening with it I wish that there was some more hard science to it there's there's not yet but hopefully that's forthcoming and that number 3 hours is a consistent they've been if it's interesting when I did this and that this was several it was three hours so you you had to go 3 hours now they're they're doing I guess that was too hard for a lot of people to do in these our sessions which is which is news to me, nobody wants to live in a cave for 30 years 3 hours able to do that for that long I've had some friends have done the holotropic breathing when the reason why I asked you this and these friends are pretty hardcore psychedelic experimenters and they found it very profound they said that they could achieve states that are very similar to psychedelic experiences you hear that all the time and couldn't find that I did not go into the universe and you've done that before had psychedelic experiences before I I have I went to college but but I did not do not Dabble. had psychedelic experiences before I I have I went to college but but I did not do not Dabble.

gambling problem for a little bit yeah what kind Sports & Casino album a lot of sports gambling problem like what made it a problem with made it follows that it was really taking up a lot of time and I never got into real trouble just because I was you know constantly working I had a great week I have bad weeks but it was as if you're you know betting on stuff every other day or whatever then that means you're kind of on tilt and not able to function most of the time in this when you were drinking a lot to just when I was drinking too it's also his drinking and gambling together getting gambling and then getting up at midnight how was serving me and look at the other stuff that I was doing and that's also gambling investing and also realized I had that outlet it just wasn't in sports or you know throwing some dice but you can gamble while you know invest in a company early you can gamble by getting a building you can gamble by you know trying to produce your own show out of pocket all these other things you know Investments go bus companies you know people that put you know millions of dollars billions into two companies that quit that and so that was invested at people they were really hyped about it and wrote big checks and it was when I was looking at a game matchups and so I can spend that time and and mental energy on something else is more productive but a lot of people don't when they get sucked into something it's very hard to get up we were just talking about video games about my addiction to video game I just had to go cold turkey I just had to step away and go I can't do this anymore and just I figured it out and I stopped but that's not easy to do sometime like sometimes like whatever it is about gambling like whatever switches that pops off in your brain that gives you that dopamine charge yeah it's I mean this certain bats that are just super pleasurable baby if you bet the total in a NBA games you back over and you didn't live the total is a the total is what you know what the two teams will score 200 points and you're rooting for every score everybody everybody you're just so you know a couple Grand on a game and you rooting for both teams live and learn nothing yeah the over bed is super hot I guess text Sarah that was a brutal knockout I had over everybody except for me a gigantic I'll tell you that I thought I told you I'm staying up but this is the most this is where it was like it was really Fockers so I started I was I was betting with a bookie but I'll use a site you know but it was you know if I won the guy with send send money sending a bunch of money and $500 money order or you know how it sits in the PayPal whatever and it was it was but the thing was that since you could just do it like that it made it worse is like sending a text to sight and so it doesn't that the same as holding the cash and batten where you really have to think about is that you just type it real quick and so you doing you know he's large bats so after while my tolerance was I need it more than I was on a hot Street and so I asked my friend for another bucket with a higher limit cuz the limit on my one would like to is so he found this is it Huey Newton's guy that to 5000 the game and so but then it's 5,000 on the hundred so it's not you not putting up five he's talking about putting up five with my physical and each time I probably would but because it and I had a hot streak I was betting on a lot of hockey at this time and I was getting I have High Street Ohio gambling buddies Bozeman to season eggs are calling me hockey Hannibal cuz I just was betting on Vegas golden knights were doing really well that was their first season it Blackhawks with hitting some stuff so I was doing parlay so if you could parlay up $5,000 bet with you know with the total or something then I-5 is a unit 1215 West so I had a good run after week I was up a hundred thousand and I love a heart and soul in it but I never put in any much so as I got this a hundred thousand from typing so I meet up with the guys Chicago and and I mean I pull up next to his car and he and he had me a hundred grand cash and I had a brown baby back and it did you do like the Demi Moore thing we throw the money on the bed and roll around naked I just put it on the table that might I didn't value it like that and so I am I headed agamas why is not happy as it's like it want it so I'll let you know what let's get them for a hundred more and the next week proceeded to go down go down at 90 grand out of it and so he started hitting me up hey I get that 90 and so I was too prideful at the time give him the cash I just want to eat we had an agreement to do PayPal on some stuff but he of course it wasn't for any money to PayPal for no 92 do PayPal for you know who it was two 3 but I was in the Zona I don't want to I can't deal with giving his cash back and so and so and then he says that shitback something hot potato hot potato and and yes so it was really it was intense cuz I'm Yours just hit me up if we see you going to be in Brooklyn Brooklyn. I got make sure I tried to talk some s*** to come to Brooklyn you going to get touched took it but yeah that was definitely took a PayPal this week sorry to put you through that and bring heat on you and and it wasn't aren't but it was that that was the wildest one man while I was out you just had me in a in a in a real irrational who's on my friend Daisy doll that my friend

yeah so, we worked hard on it man is it's one just cuz of the situation with that the false arrest if so is really his personal cuz I kind of had to keep living that story every time I told it and then living in the edit and it's just a funny situation to your drunk and this guy is arrest you for going back into a bar I didn't that bar I hadn't been in that bar you went to a different I went to the bar after we spoke I went to the bar but he was still he was upset about what I said so he follows me into the bar but then you know that they made they cut it on their body cam footage they cut his make me look what he really left his post and follow me to be on bullshitt so yeah we probably that's abusive yesterday it's a lot of thought and emotion in motion a lot of ego based policing on the on the super Patty side you know what is obviously that you know the issues on Extreme with the killings that was a terrible but then it'll iPhone 4 without ruining lives with Patty Erasmus somebody got to go they got to miss work or something please get mad cuz they I looked at the wrong way and then people that go to so it's a lot of cops should be able to handle somebody talkin a little s*** to them drunk you copy Miami you should be used to my brother talked a little drunk s*** to you without you putting the cuffs on and if you can't you shouldn't be a cop if you're supposed to be better than us of you you should be better in the house you should have the mental fortitude than that like freaked out because somebody says you don't like and you have extreme responsibilities you have a gun on your hip and front of everybody like it's not like whether or not I don't know you have a gun you might have a gun do you definitely have a gun it's right there and you're allowed to shoot people you're allowed to it's part of your job trained to shoot people as part of your job you have to be elevated you have to be above normal discourse you have to be able to handle all kinds of s*** and the reality is that's not the case with the most police officers he's not cop I was I was walking away from him but I was just talkin to have the s*** because he just follow me into a bar and so I'm walking away and so that s*** was really you know absolutely instigated that situation but it wasn't arrested and the cost I had to pay for that is it's pretty hot as far as you know my public s*** on there just for a drunk night just for toddlers I'm on TMZ I lost some corporate gig because of that cuz they just saw it and then brought you got arrested and his wife to Gig it was a decent pan that you know it was a it was a hockey Hannibal type of gear get the peace out get the special out even put it out Friday like a huge weight like none of the other spouse's because it was the other special kind of done on a two-year clock to and they were kind of in this one filmed it twice out-of-pocket so super is so many other elements that made it really heavy and that's party I'm sorry party I just I just needed to blow off some steam to let you know if you f***** up to a man they will let you know it. They'll drag you they would drag you to the darkest part of your imagination yeah man it is everything silent darkness is the way to go sat is Saturday is better, a party everybody's

how do you get through this right you write your book and you getting this this robot Journey had the Robot Jones Journey been done before so the rowboat before there is a story history of ocean rowing social rowing and Rowing society that has you know the records of different Rose going back over time there's this race across the Atlantic happens call the talisker ocean talisker whiskey Ocean Race across the Atlantic from from the or is it go from from the Canary Islands to the Caribbean every winter that happened to Ocean rowing and needs a subculture to small subculture don't get me wrong but it happens like it's a thing you know there was a guy who's into swell I wish I wish she was still alive cuz I love to sit down with anything this guy thinks that Juliet a true true like Explorer timing actually got killed on a late 90s I believe when he was climbing in the Himalayas in Pakistan and he got shot by someone who came to the camp out in the whole story of super sad stories done all of these projects going to be for social media and stuff like this out there doing these things and he called the sea tomato and you took it down to chili to try to conduit what was like hybrid rowing sale and so he has a sailing Mast on their he's got or is he's got four guys with them they try it the first season they actually can't even launch their boat off of Cape horns they wait a whole other year and in the second year they want to see tomato understand illinihq standing waves come up so whole season they sat down there with the robot and then even launched it then the next year came back him in for guys the best time of year to do it would be December or January because that's the southern hemisphere's summer until the temperature is a little bit warmer you got longer days we purposely did it over the summer for the summer solstice oh December 21st going to be June 21st for us in the northern hemisphere on the longest day of the year we still had tonight today's the few hours of Darkness every single night but we least have a longer days because when it gets dark and there's waves coming at you from every single Direction I mean it is we're leaving in 38 people died in a plane crash and Drake Passage as we were about to depart on are open. The whole other hole other crazy story but but Inuit does that mean there's shipwrecks out there there's both should have gone down there was a a cruise ship I think that went down in the 2000s cruise ships hears me a fairly calm sometimes so I mean some of the times if you got some swells but I mean you'll see this next part to this is me and the tiny little cabin is coming over the crash and anchor that's when the way it's got so big or the wind and swell with Kansas so much that we couldn't run anymore and it's like throwing a parachute that basically like Hannah tries to hold you in place if you look at the huge parachute basically and you put it in the water and it fills with water and it holds the boat into place may not be wild even amidst if we had the volume up it's me basically talking about how we're getting pushed back in the wrong direction but we can't even we don't have the strength to rebel against it anymore just getting hammered back 15 or 20 miles yeah you lose 15 or 20 miles of progress until what happened to his like I said you saw on the boat there's three people growing free people in the cabins at any given time and the cabins are tiny when you're even with the in a one person in one side like I was too in the other side like you're like smashing Erica sardine but then when you put the sea anchor out no one's growing anymore and that open decking it's like really dangerous is be sitting out there so we all try to get in the cabin but like does Icelandic dude with the Beyond Palm and he's like amazing growing a 6ft to broad shoulders whatever all the sudden the two of us are jammed inside of like the smallest looks like 2 ft round 3 ft wide by 3ft tall like spooning each other when wet or cold winter for 26 hours that time like I did you guys poop so if you looked at Sweet yeah that this one shows kind of waved a big swell I'm the I'm the one in the back there and I'm sitting right next to really fancy toilet a little something called a 5K yeah and then the fish can snack on that but you know how often times those other guys never compartment either three three of them were inside the compartment at a time and one would be sitting out and taking shifts or sometimes Smash 4 in there but even though I literally on top of each other so we got close but then also obviously goes no space on the deck so it's like hey man just turn your head away I'm going to be pooping of basically a foot away from you while you're growing this bucket like don't mind me like Mountain houses will Kratom horrible smells all your body I've had those Mountain houses while hunting their rough I don't need a lot of carbs yes 100% so why the things I can do people ask me was going solar in order Crossing harder the real whatever and it's like they're very different when things that was so bored about this Antarctica and the crossing was with a lot colder than the Drake Passage row it was about average temperature in we're out there was probably like in low 30s you know if it below few times but the ocean temperature like I said it's 32 and 33 on chest above freezing is iceberg in the water we're getting close to it and I'm just getting splashed the entire different Mike minute one hour one leaving Cape Horn we are soaking wet and what kind of equipment are you wearing what kind of gear you wearing that keeps you from selling really cold so we we started out in Justice Court acts as a stick like staling cortex basically and that works pretty well for the first few days but one of the other cool innovations that Beyond thought of having done so much ocean rowing is he was like to the only way this is going to work is if we have some sort of drysuit it's just too cold but you start looking at dry suits and you like you could never roll you can't be functional like wearing like this like crazy drysuit right and so he basically says he he spends the year 1 things that he did is he found this like polish manufacturer we all got our bodies measuring a 25-6 different measurements and all this and basically created these custom dry suits that were a lot thinner than a typical Tri suit but kept us drive it also allowed us to have the mobility on the oars and it was really actually built for the sitting position in the leg you know the leg press in the arm ocean that of rowing so is awesome Innovation and we got just I mean thank God we have those cuz we were getting soaked I mean we were getting so so so so doubt they're in the 90 minutes you would think I found the 90 minutes quote" rest phase you would get in there you know maybe change clothes and like that no absolutely not like me we had these suits on we're soaking wet we get in the cabin we are all sharing like one sleeping bag like I just one sleeping bag that pee and I were alternating it's soaking wet after the first day it was just like it's basically like if I showed you what it look like the last day you can like I wouldn't sit in there for 1 minute let alone like try to sleep if I go pale as a quad like the brown water on the bottom like in her just like you know it's the smells from us living in and out of there for this time and it was grimy and wet and cold body suits soon as pre-roll the one thing that was great and obviously we were clipped in for safety so we are clipped into basically these ropes that you saw on the edge of their so if you're going to get knocked off on the boat hopefully we wouldn't be able to clip dinner the boat itself actually fully self right so if it rolls hypothetically rolls back over the top we had some close calls we never fully rolled it and I thank God I'ma we did test that I want to things about the suits at the suits based like neoprene booties it's all like one kind of One Piece like you were having a drysuit which was awesome for keeping us safe and try but I didn't take the suit off for the last six or seven days at all and so when I finally took the suit off my feet like you think about your fingers getting like pruney maybe like you do in a swimming pool a couple hours or hot tub or something like that like I imagined 7 Days of wet and cold and sweats and like all the things like when I took the suit off like I almost was ripping off of my feet I get with nasty do you recover from that I don't know exactly how to put the point on like all I'm recovered but definitely took a few weeks to just kind of get everything back in all this disability back in body mind right all of that so yeah yeah it was it was interesting for sure

I am very curious now that this jalayne Maxwell guy or lady got arrested you know the Jeffrey Epstein's confidante what how quick before they kill her if they don't kill her what is she going to say and who's going down cuz there's a lot of people going down is is pretty bonkers well first of all Trump used to hang out with that guy whose picture was Melania and Trump and Jeffrey Epstein and gullane and Fox News cut out Trump they cut the the edited the picture so that Trump was it in the picture and they're like wild made a mistake like I bet you did make a mistake there's a picture they were posing partying together they said that he had all of those tapes and all of those rooms will being taped so I wonder if she has access to that or that they burn that was a good question what's up a picture of Bill Clinton and address in the foyer of his house damn it's a crazy picture like you are my b**** cuz he had killed Clinton flew with him like 26 times we that that's a the real picture that was in the foyer of his house in real life friends and he came on my house and I got a painting to Hannibal want to show you something is you an address of you and I've been partying together and I flew you to some Island and we f*** kids together and then you came on my house and it's a painting of you in a dress like what have I done because it's one of those things where you would hear about that from like the craziest conspiracy theorists there's an island they take all these Elites and they have these underage girls in this island you like get the f*** out of here with this crazy talk that's crazy talk and then you find a weighted true and he had scientists think the lawyers there and politicians there an island like they had the prince whatsisname prince Andrew prince Andrew was there but I don't remember I'm a royal royal Don't Hug he just kept me but I don't I don't know those are what it is what it is will bite you set interview that you did the full interview I just saw in the in the dark there's an interview with him I forgot who the woman was interviewing them but when you're watching the interview you like Holy Ship why did you do this like you know that you're guilty and you agreed to do this interview but this isn't even that cops this is like a reporter and you're talking to this reporter and you're clearly full of s*** and really nervous this is Crate the whole thing old money white guy confidence in the UK like they can get away with a lot over there because like they could sue you for all kinds of s*** and the royal family I'm sure it's extremely litigious Dwayne Maxwell is allegedly secret video footage of prince Andrew oh Jesus p****** and we come Dwayne Maxwell is allegedly secret video footage of prince Andrew Oggi's p****** and we come

hello Hannibal what's happening man to see my friend to see YouTube the last time I saw you was in Thailand it was inside of 2018 by myself for several months I just a month and train Muay Thai I needed to I needed a reset after doing tag I wanted to kind of just reset my brain after doing so much press cuz it was a lot of press and a lot of just you know repetition and so I like I need to go do something extreme to get into a totally different Zone do you ever train more time before then no glasses the first day so I went and in Bangkok first class I just didn't want to want in my Camp was in Phuket and so the is all the all the gems outside so the warm-up I was drenched in sweat at night 10 minute warm up this is good for it was nice I stayed on the count for a little bit so it was it was nice to just have that focus and live there and be there in and just work out and in and lean into it was cool with you ever like hitting the pads gun so like doing a roundhouse I wouldn't be able to sew my elbows were with decent my knees and so some of the trainers they caught they started that wasn't my nickname it was elbow elbow the decision to move your legs like that and that kind of dexterity takes awhile it's a slow gradual build-up yes the the hips have to be looser and it was just but I'm also bowlegged so starting yoga things that I can't do or even sitting Indian style you seem normal when you're walking around how are you both really bow-legged now walk is a little bit it has a little bit to it really crazy I don't look how I think I look at my head while I'm walking I think they the music in my head is done to do but my walk is kind of broken who is that guy it it it affects around house game you know I can help you with that I guarantee you I bet some stretches and some learning how to do it slowly the thing about roundhouse kicks and any kicks in general is people try to do them like fast you really want to learn them slow you want to learn it like that you got to resist the urge to try to hit things what you really want to do is just go through the motions just go through the motions do that for a law long. Of time like many many many weeks before it is and then you supporting leg cuz you're not pivoting reflect themselves and then it's hard to unlearn that see one when you learn something if you weren't wrong like Minds to teach the worst students were students that learn something wrong you would think I already have five years of karate and you better off taking it a young kid with no experience at all they can get way better way faster cuz they don't have any bad habits cuz as soon as you get nervous or soon as you get tired you go right back to your bad habits you go back to your lips you have to relearn everything it was seeing the kids I went to some of the fights out there and is wildly in the kids in the in the undercard what are you seeing seven-year-olds crazy right I got to see the main event to so I can't leave its culture it is it is chi feels wrong but it's their culture and it's also a lot of the families make money mean they literally send their kid off to the camp but I was out I was trying to figure out if part of the culture is national sport but it doesn't seem that you know you have people invited that I Legends there that's the equivalent Mike Tyson and you can probably get a private with them for four hundred bucks so what's going on with the model over there where is been a national sport for a while but it seems like the money isn't there is at the corruption or what happened very inexpensive to go to the fights you know that everything's inexpensive in Thailand and flip flops right it's an interesting place like my friend John Lennon went there when he was a boy he was a young teenager and live their lives as a monk and he's Australian multiple-time World Muay Thai champion and he he spent like a good deal of his time growing up there and really embrace the culture and he's like they just as the land of smiles like everyone's everyone's friendly like one of the things I noticed they're like people are genuinely very friendly there's very little materialism there be bored a generally happy with like wearing a pair of shorts cold out so you can wear shorts and flip-flops and that's how everybody's walking around and I don't think there's a lot of money in the business you know I think there's enough cut it not cuz I was scared but just cuz it isn't it didn't fit but it's about how he you know you have to stand up during the national anthem and they play it at certain times during it any play before the movies so I went to the movies out there to see Ant Man 2 and after the previews the king of Thailand's hype video comes on and everybody has to stand up movie theater but it was the worst produced it was a terrible video I seen Instagram fitness models with better videos in the king of stop is like what you eat a king get some King like production value ain't got no top notch editors films then it quickly yeah let me get on that he needs a king and she got demoted and so she had a like like bow down in front of them in front of everybody like she was talking s*** like the the mistress probably wanted to be the queen like I'll get it there she's like begging for forgiveness and makers was it say as he makes are his concubine attended by his butt when she became the official concubine and by the way I think that was the first time anybody had an official County Bond like that deers hello. How I love you look in that b**** in front of everybody look people laying down in a cleaning Snapchat messed up let's go have some day I did enjoy tile and I enjoyed it a lot as a good time yeah I went back last year did you the same thing recognize the king yoga class wait a minute so cycle will she she has to wear the crazy hat if he's in there so that's just how he likes to rock it he likes tank tops that shows belly button that's cool it's cultural I want to go see if you ever seen let way do you know what that is that's like if you think I'm Thai boxing is Extreme they take it another level left way they use head butts and they they kick you when you're down to do all kinds of crazy s*** I think about other bare-knuckle to when he's on his way down it's just it's way more hardcore it's like one more level of Hardcore and headbutts a lot of headbutts yeah but they basically use all the techniques of moytie but they just take it to a totally different level this the second time I went when I went to Koh Samui last year and this girl I was said she we we go to a couple classes and I didn't know she had a Muay Thai before so we had a private and she was hitting the bag up with the kicks Ono bowlegged kicks is there my bow-legged kicks

right right do you like sit down right or stand up or do you just like have ideas and working out on stage a little bit of some ideas game show idea is you get 4 people line them up put mask on them and it's a game show called out who said that who said that and then my other one has bad joke you got to get these out your system before you head now that you know is everybody's wearing masks the the bank robbers got it right robber on his mask obsession with becoming a game show host that you have in your your special when I took Fear Factor I take it again because it changed my life changed my life gave me Freedom like real freedom but it's job there's a big difference between doing that doing stand-up when you do stand-up you're having fun when you doing Fear Factor sometimes you having fun but it's a job you're working it was a great job don't get me wrong at the game show Steve Harvey retires from Family Feud that's an easy one I would do Family Feud I would do Family Feud survey says I think it as a regular gig I got to be the one creating it cuz he said that even knows about it comic though maybe maybe he was at one point in time maybe I don't think so it's not, give her a Pat Sajak is enough former weatherman somebody says something I would like it if one of them was Kobe positive one of them cold it positive why it's on YouTube who said that who said that bad idea for a show as long as he didn't like you could guess and it especially if it's like they said things that were like closely related to what they did like maybe you can ask them what they did like and then figure out who would say what I think keeping it simple and quick but he's short attention spans and then maybe that's somebody that becomes a legend on the show and they just kind of his somebody and maybe a script it maybe is real but if somebody say who said that was fast is episodes over intros longer than that episode intros 15 second episode 4 seconds now intros longer than that episode intros 15 seconds episode 4 seconds

that's why so I've been thinking about where you going I think about going to Ghana for a couple months don't sell that part make sure you don't catch that but this is Singapore a random jacket I got over the holiday. Just cuz I took a African ancestry test apparently I'm on my father's side and I think America is going to be it's very annoying now and it's going to be pretty annoying in November so if I can get out of here October at least four to three months just as an exploratory trip and get a different perspective to to live from right from work from and just a whole different zone for bed and really dive-in out there I think now is the is the time to watch I love the idea I love it especially now right you just released a special available free on YouTube right now so like what better way to come up with new material than live in Ghana for a few months right before the world explodes for him to pass it off as step down that's still weird if that's not going to be stats not smooth to know I'm stepping down that's that's going to create a hose off the only way that would ever work is if whoever his running mate was was preferable to him and everybody was excited about it like someone who you would have voted for anyway we don't even know who the running mate is right now as of today July 8th we don't know who that is running mate is preferable to him and Bloodgood he's going to be a woman could give it to her let her run it if it's like that maybe we'll be okay but he's not even around he's hiding somewhere in a basement I I just skeptical of him just because he he was vice president as an old guy for eight years that means he was just jealous one day one day is so that's too weird too weird of a wait to make that move at this age it should be a cab 64 president well and I'm only saying 62 be nice and then dementia Alzheimer's right was it all timers I think dementia never forget when I was at open-mic her like 1988 this guy named Jimmy tingle was a Boston comedy Legend the other joke about Reagan on trial goes right was on trial and they asked him if he ever sold arms to Iran and he said he couldn't remember and Jimmy Chang was like mr. president if you ever sell to people who hate us down make a note put it on your refrigerator went out and we thought it was bullshiting like if we were like she's just pretending he doesn't remember but then in the end he didn't remember anything like who knows if you remember that yeah is that the age thing is to be a sort of cap because why you shouldn't be first of all you're any Ambitions you have in your seventies should be private things like carpentry or fly fishing music production did when you were 32 that's not involving millions of people I say that but then I was I was willing to vote for Bernie Sanders I was Bernie Sanders supporter before he lost the primary I felt like his policies were interesting and to be an interesting way to shake up the country like with put focus on human beings and people and communities instead of just money and for an interventionist Wars adding Bernie as some edges and policies and just you know what them shits on a PDF give advice you know guidance be the wise Sage but at that at you know it's up to travel is to travel is tough on a young healthy person

but you know what another great story about it was when I find after 6 months of getting in his ear about smoking weed I was like trying to convince them to smoke weed on my bed so funny he's so funny I finally convinced them to smoke weed he's got to feel that s*** cuz this is it I finally convinced them to do it is there an ice cream place Baskin-Robbins hot fudge sundae and we went to The Comedy Store and then I got high for the first time today and damn I didn't realize it was hot fudge sundae

okay so one of the things I do you know you had like the junk but the junkie folder yes so to remind myself of how blind I might be and how I could like how I need to change my mind right Confederate monument in my wallet right here so I keep I don't know if you know so the Confederate $2 bill right there that's Judah Benjamin that he's that he's the only Jew who ever made it onto American currency if you want to call it and is Confederate money Federate money historically I mean it's so touchy right even saying anything about Confederates like I'll tell you why then what size got a little help and he had slaves so here's this guy who's a Jew in America in the 1880s who's who's one of his most important holidays is a celebration of the Jews Liberation From Slavery Who had most likely slaves in his house serving him the Passover dishes and certainly washing them and what that means to me at least it's like there's going to be something in my life that I'm as blind to as back I was to the evils of slavery and if you can have your most important holiday be a holiday where you're celebrating the liberation of your people from slavery and still end up on a f****** Confederate bill probably some kind of thing but that a hundred years from now is going to seem like how could Allen how could this idiot have not seen that right it was right in front of his eyes I know people are going to be like all these people who were talking about how slavery is bad right and chattel slavery is a very very different thing from other kinds of slavery but there are ways in which people are trapped in horrific situations were manufacturing the goods that I have noticed I'm not sure exactly how it all plays out but I can imagine a future in which people look back at me and you and the things we are consuming and saying how blind to the conditions in which those items were produced shorewell one of the best examples as someone tweeting about slavery on an iPhone that's made by someone who works at Foxconn who has the giant Nets around the building to keep people from jumping off because they live such horrific lives that they they lead to their death so often they have to protect the building with Nets and this is the exact point at which if you wanted to ultra process this conversation you take soundbite and you'd say look at these two assholes comparing working in a Foxconn Factory to chattel slavery which is precisely not explain chattel slavery different forms of slavery so chattel slavery specifically were where people are turned into property and bought and sold and have no opportunity to earn their freedom is a specific kind of slavery that was the kind of slavery we had in the United States uniquely horrific Lee bad and so that kind of slavery is not the same thing as working in a Foxconn Factory but we know when I think about you I'm thinking about this right here what happened when that pillow gets made you know I think it's actually instructor parallel right like I'd like us to think about what you know how were the goods that were using and consuming and where they're made I also don't want people to think that for a moment the chattel slavery is the same thing as working in a Foxconn but it is farmed animals yes I mean III it's messed up that I know comes from a place you know where the animals are not treated what weather in hell is animal help you know and we have these animal hells and I mean just yesterday when I went out and eat like baby back ribs baby back ribs didn't come from Joel salatin polyface farm and I think that you know what that's something I think about but I but I do it anyway I can imagine a time when we look back on our current eating habits more like why wasn't everyone arguing for ethically sourced meat how was it that that people didn't didn't want to force everyone collectively to pay more for me that was raised in a way like the kind of way that's out and Pioneers right in I'm really on board with salt and I think he's I think he's right to say look there are context in which animals are happier and less Happy The Happy Hour on my farm and they're f****** miserable pressing him on whether or not you could feed New York City that way and he's like do you really need New York City I was eating sounds delicious pork I'm sure it was an incredible Place polyface farms and I was eating his board and like the people they're awesome he's awesome and he announces to everyone he says look we're going to be doing a bit of a change we have a new thing that we're going to be doing we are going to be producing chickens for a growing segment of our Market that doesn't want soy fed to their chicken so it's out and chickens get a lot of their calories not from his farm to get it portion of the calories from non-GMO soy that's grown at another place outside of polyface rentals that do their chicken if they feel like they don't want it so they're going to start feeding their chickens there's a certain percentage of fish meal ground fish meal and you know what you looking at you said I'm a hypocrite you know I'm a hypocrite like anyone else but at least I admit it and what I wanted to say to him what does nothing wrong with feeding your chickens fishmeal if some people want chickens that are fed fish meal and you're treating your chickens in the way you think is ethical there's not some kind of purity test that you need to apply to your farm even though it's on a road called Pure Meadows Lane right but you don't need a purity test for your farm you're a good guy who cares 92 you know and and it kind of made me sad that he thought of that as some sort of hypocrisy well the only hypocrisy that you could see in it is Factory farmed fish is awful I mean it's it's really bad I mean it's bad for the environment it's bad for the fish it's there's there's not a lot of sustainable factory farm fish operations it wouldn't make you wince if you actually saw how they process all that fish meal.. stuff until I started this research I'll tell you story crazy story I was in the Netherlands researching the food chapter this book which is about vanilla which I could talk to you about vanilla which sounds very boring right which is why I picked it it's vanilla vanilla and people want natural vanilla and I don't know if you know what you know where vanilla comes from this beautiful white orchid is where are vanilla beans vanilla ice cream has it work it on the yeah so there's a person who goes and you can watch YouTube videos of it's crazy no-sew vanilla used to be only in mesoamerica the only place where grew naturally was mesoamerica it was the Mayan silviculturist which is like Forest gardeners Who had who who grew this and it was pollinated by its only known natural pollinator which was this thing called The melipona Bee I don't know if I pronounce that right and then Edmond albius discovered how to artificially pollinate vanilla flowers and just like that you not have the ability to grow vanilla orchids in non natural habitats right so it's still expensive to make natural vanilla cheaper and the Netherlands is where all of the best growing technology a lot of the best growing technology is so I went to a university there would have a greenhouse where they're growing vanilla orchids pineapples bell peppers like coconut meu name it everything they figured out how to grow all of these natural plants cheap vanilla beans that can be labeled legally natural and that whole story comes back to the salmon and the fish that you were talking about before because in that same place there was a machine like out of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory with like pink sludge whooshing through it this was you know a couple of places down from the from the vanilla Orchid House from salmon to be pink and it's not pink because it doesn't eat the diet that against nature so it's naturally gray but people people won't pay for that so he's farming algae which is natural so he's that's the stuff the pink stuff and then they feed that to the farm salmon just so it can be naturally pink so when you go in your Whole Foods or whatever and you see that your salmon is all natural and it's pink we want stuff natural so bad that we're developing new technologies to figure out how to like with a orange but they don't want artificial and I was like I get I get I get what we're doing I get what we want right we want stuff is better for the planet we want natural how do you get how do you get Joel salatin meat to people that can't afford it I get what we want right we want stuff is better for the planet we want natural how do you get how do you get Joel salatin meat to people that can't afford it

who's a story about about a about a terrible person there's yeah yeah know that that big Pharma is is corrupt and chemotherapy is a sham and if they just come to his place which I went to in in Florida he should go to interview more I did I did I went to interview him because he just looks like he's like a caricature of a snake who is getting people's hope up the writing is not right because it's also he gets to the people and they could have seeked me out out real big treatment be cured live and people got people die because the crazy thing very close to me has never had cancer like these are people who you know when that happens you're looking for anyone looking for anyone to tell you a story that gives you a sense that things are actually not chaotic right that things are simple but there's an answer that there's a community that they can help you and so and so they go right and he and he Taps Taps into that and he gives them what they want right in assets he gives them what they want which is it which is a feeling of certainty and belonging and Hope and any ages terrible terrible human but but but it ends up it ends up being really bad for these people and it ends up being bad for you know society and certain ways and that and so I struggle right in the problem is if you attacked that guy I don't know if you run it at all but if you attack the charlatans they've been turned into Saints by the people that look up to them so when you attack them you also end up attacking all of the people that believe them that believe yeah I've been there before with chiropractors you know I don't know if you know the history of contact I do Seance the idea that he was going to manipulate people's spines and cure them of tuberculosis and blindness he was murdered by a son who drove over with a f****** car and then took over the practice and somehow or another this has been grandfathered in like I told her friend of mine the other day was talk to me about chiropractors I'll go do you know how much time a chiropractor spends a medical school they go how much are gold 00 time their doctor of chiropractic medicine but they're not a doctor's people not right now though we've been there chiropractors with feel like they've gotten relief to respect their cut you some relief and someone manipulating your body folks you should get a deep tissue massage and you should get an MRI and find out what's really wrong I came through this because I used to go to a doctor or chiropractor excuse me and I had a bulging disc and was f****** me up for a long time it was really bothering me and this this chiropractor was assuring me definitely was not a bulging disc and is probably a muscle tear and we're going to fix it by manipulating this I'm going to change your that toi got it there let me adjust this boom in your hip this it was all horseshit but he was a saint compared to another one that I want to I'll tell you a story about a guy who is ripping people off this guy was really ripping people off he was doing this thing that he called his own healing be ready for this he would I'm not bullshiting he would touch your head and he would press your head here and press your head here pressure it here and then press it really hard here and he was all you feel that Andrew yeah that's that's L4 is off and just let me know you squeeze hard on my f****** head I'm not stupid and then he would have just you and tell you that this is going to fix you know whatever autoimmune disease you have whatever this and so I was going to him because all these other Jiu-Jitsu people are going to him and they're all telling me all this guy's great at cracking backs and he's amazing you fix my neck you fix my desk because people want someone to fix their thing right if you have a neck injury and you just spend time off and it gets better it's a treatment from a chiropractor will heal things heal your body knows how to heal and it was all he fix my neck know you're f****** neck healed okay things do heal but this person touching your back saying he's fixing your gallbladder is a scam or right so I had this guy and I'm talking to him and so I said what how does this work and I keep going how are you fixing this you tell me what is going on here and so it goes down to the placebo method he literally tells me he said if you believe if you believed in this ago so you're telling me I have to be so f****** dumb to think that if you push on my back it's going to fix my liver and then it will fix my liver will you heels while you do know the placebo method does work I go so you're taking money from people to lie to them so we have this tense conversation and office and I'm looking at him and I know this guy's got a nice house and it was got a nice car and it's just f****** stealing money from people but give him these false hopes it's it's creepy s*** man it's really creepy s*** when you're alone with a guy you're talking to him about it and you get them to say it's the placebo method and meanwhile other than that nice guy which is even more f***** up like I knew him like you seem like a nice guy I didn't I didn't know I didn't even know practor stop was both sort of hard to believe that people like it's still a thing is classical Chinese philosophy about you know if you take my you know Mercury mixed at night with this and you eat in this way I'm looking at this stuff going on today and you look at the history of Chiropractic and it's vital forces right Homeopathy is a similar thing as vital forces that are actually was causing illness and if you look at the history of that it's quasi-religious Reiki which is like and it's these words I'm it's really interesting these words energy is one of these words that can easily slide from explicitly religious to seemingly secular right as like as some kind of Science and as you know I discovered my first but I used to joke with people like I got out of religion cuz I didn't want to talk about touchy stuff and then I started talking about food and medicine and that was when people really got pissed like when you when you start to talk about what they eat so you got out of religious because it didn't want these uncomfortable conversations thought I wanted to look at how the stuff I learned about how religion works or about the history of religion and apply it to you know how people choosing the foods they eat how are people choosing the medicine slipper Chinese medicine right you know acupuncture is natural right but that's not something people Embrace and so I saw these weird uncritical in braces of of dietary regimens and healing rituals that to me we're just obviously right out of you know ancient China or you know any ancient context where people would never believe them and yet today you know you're going in your having your your back cracked it's so weird that it's so prevalent but put back on it just because I don't read social media luckily so I'm not going to hear from it but and let me do say this there's a bunch of people that are chiropractors that do use some valid methods for a rehabilitation right there's a lot of them to use deep tissue massage cold laser therapy actual real methods a lot of them use Rolfing there's a lot of them that use a bunch of different methods of stretching that are very beneficial but the practice of cracking back secure disease is fuckingn on front right right and that's a problem and the practice of calling yourself a doctor Dove that is also nonsense it really is yeah and you guys want dr. pepper yeah yeah yeah absolutely difficult when when people are in pain right or when people when people in pain when you're in pain either psychic pain physical pain you really need someone to tell you they have an answer for you and to explain it and fit it into a system they can say to you I know why you're sad I know why you feel empty I know why you're f****** back hurts it's because of this simple thing and I have the answer I'm going to fix I'm going to fix it and actually just hearing that itself is therapeutic and that's the the problem with going to a Healer because there's many people that have gone to people that have claimed to be a Healer and just this process of embracing this new new situation this like I am here I'm getting healed oh my God it's happening and you're a lot of what makes people ill is anxiety is stressed and the placebo effect of having some sort of a in your mind perceives solution is anxiety is stress and the placebo effect of having some sort of a in your mind perceives solution does have tangible physical benefits for some strange reason which is really weird like what wood goes on the human mind

one of the things that I found interesting is the concept of what is natural and I've gone over this many times myself my poisons natural like everything's natural what computers are natural really because they come from the ground and made by people they're essentially like humans version of anything like a bird would create right Birds create a bird's nest or those natural but this pyrite is it pirate right which is fool's gold pyrite Fool's Gold but it's actually in these cubes in this Abyss the square form this perfect is perfect angles would you would never believe you would think somebody left the s*** there I didn't believe it it looks like it looks like aliens left them in The Matrix not know that it came like that I found pyrite when I was a kid in rocks you know when they call it Fool's Gold by James going to bring that up to you they're fools gold but it's like specs and flex and stuff there's another one called Illinois Miners dollars or something this is another form that pyrite takes sand dollars but they're gold one of the things I had to change my mind of a writer like over the course of writing this book is it to take on these different completely unusual forms so I tried I tried to find a local rock store where I live and I asked the guy and apparently I don't understand how it works at all but the way all crystals work is they have different kinds of structures and the way those structures come together determines whether you know makes like a quartz crystal or what shape it takes it's very surreal this is very bizarre I did not know until you gave this to me that that existed for me like you said there's some people like often scientists who will soar scoff at the idea of natural humans are natural we're animals we made all this stuff we made the microphones we're all made out of space dust everything's natural it's stupid to distinguish between natural and unnatural and honestly that's where I was when I started writing the book I was like I'm going to make I'm going to show this is a stupid idea I'm going to I'm going to be Richard Dawkins but for natural that's right but I was wrong I don't know because there's a difference between knowing that that was just spewed up by the Earth forces that are not human right versus human sitting down in deciding to make a cute bright like a diamond that has been shaped by millions of years of natural forces and what I realized is that it really does make sense to distinguish between natural and unnatural miss you have to maybe it's a spectrum obviously it's not an easy binary but New York City is not as natural as Yellowstone and what I realized was I wasn't really against the idea of naturalness or even valuing nature right I mean well. Hopefully we'll talk about I went back country in Yellowstone it was unbelievable everyone values naturalness in certain ways it was worshipping nature that I had a problem with this idea that the more natural something is the better it is or that what we need to do like if you want to raise your kid right naturally you like in the corner or like elimination communication I think so some slip some celebrities really like Alicia silverstone's did with her son bear and it funny that that automatically dismisses it if you're if you're really obsessed naturalness right and your toilet training your kid then you don't you don't want to like be using diapers and you don't want to be using the toilet you want it to be like nature right like the one I talked with with an apologist to work with hunter-gatherers Nothing Like Us know how does potty training work and they're like what do you mean like people just piss in the forest in someone's lap but there's this idea right there at the end so that's how glass what we should be doing with our children and and I don't know what you look like when we had our daughter I was online and I'm like okay well how do I pair my child what are the right things to do like she should be in my bed should be in the crib and time and time again I was right about how hunter gatherers parented their babies right and it's always like this is the natural way to parent your kid so it must be better and and I realized that was that was where I had my problem that it's fine to love nature but you shouldn't worship well human beings have done horrible things to their children from the beginning of time it without anybody telling them to do it or not to do it and I don't know if that's natural but it occurs enough it's kind of not like pedophilia occurs a lot is that natural so it's so there was a there's a there was killed by human beings we have Natural Instincts and kidnapping slavery in Katherine Cameron and I was interviewing her she said you know it is as natural as the nuclear family to have slaves right so she's slavery is a thing that has been done forever and ever I mean imagine rights you pre-agricultural your tribe your group requires population can't get too high can't get too low and so can tapping other people's children off in a common thing so is that good right or you know dying in childbirth these are all things that are natural but obviously not good and so I started started to see the way in which this world was being abused basically people use natural describe whatever they favored and unnatural to describe what are they didn't like people do it with child-rearing people do it with economic theories right you want a natural market with no interference and that's how people justify free-market other people who like actually money is a natural you really want to barter system that was what emerged naturally out of humans and I'm sitting here looking at both these are consumed like The Works was you were talking to Joel salatin who I love and he's a strange man I'm a beautiful person I really love what he's doing with polyface Farms but he drinks the water that the cows drink out of so that he gets that in his biome you know he's a real freak but when you were talking about New York City and either would his method of farming work to feed a city as big as New York is like do need a city as big as New York then I might hit the brakes right now Love New York it's f****** great place to visit I want to live there but it's awesome I mean when you go to New York to view your if you're in a hotel that has like a 30th floor and you look out you see this Kitty the cities skyscraper and I see all the skyline all the different beautiful buildings lit up at night that is an amazing spectacular sight that I am very thankful exists I love it there if someone's listening to this podcast here we are we've got microphones we're beaming this conversation in the millions of people and to think that that simultaneously people would be thinking of themselves the criteria I'm going to use to judge whether something is good or bad with a capital G or a capital B is how natural it is this is totally unnatural Lights of the problem is urban density or the problem is that you shouldn't be going into the jungle and getting things like this is actually an argument against that though the the virus itself more evidence coming out daily that it's been manipulated that it most likely did come out of that lab I had Bret Weinstein on the prop podcast was a biologist and he was talking about all the the various aspects of the virus that really don't exist naturally in in in this form without having evolved for conquer the time the fact that it just emerged and made this leap from bats to the form that it is now people he's like it's far too contagious is far too prolific it's there's so many different I'm going to f*** it up if I talk about the technical details of it but when he was describing and he was saying more evidence points to the fact that it is actually something that have been manipulated by people then that it was a natural virus I would want to push back on this is a religious studies got it right because this is why I came to all the natural natural stuff to begin with is if something's bad I think people are immediately going to think so it makes sense that it was unnatural it makes sense that this bad thing that's hurting us couldn't be natural but but the truth is some things that hurt us or natural so there you go begin 4 to research this book because I wanted to talk with like as close as I could get two free agricultural hunter-gatherers right now I can't get you can't get to close but they're there are people called them out to ganga that much anger in the rainforest that got to talk to you and I got to ask them about you know their relationship with technology and all that stuff I'm never going to forget I go up to this this guy and I asked him if they've just had solar lights installed like and sort of area of their Village about having these artificial lights installed and and I'm thinking myself you know it's this pollution right isn't it better to just have you know the stars in the sky and the moon and he looks at me and he goes he goes to it we can see at night install base clean water rights you can wash your dishes and in your clothes and I'm thinking oh my God this is ripping them away from the natural way of life I asked the same like how do you feel about the water and she's like it's we don't we don't get bacteria anymore from the water that we're drinking from the river I was like I've been alienated from it and I'm asking from the perspective of someone who thinks it just must be paradise living So Close To Nature he's got a cell phone also right and I'm like woah technology band he's like yes well I guess yes or no cuz on Tinder categories you can use to divide up the world into good and bad and now the people now that we're going as religion sort of the sphere of authority you don't go to your priest to find out what to eat you don't go to your priest to find out how to cure your disease now that that Authority is shrinking I think people are looking to other similar kinds of authority and so they like all my priests but if I'm walking through the store what sort of criteria can I use to divide the world up easily into good and evil clean and unclean organic organic and inorganic send you our language Joe like artificial starts artificial artificial might be a thing Sunday artificial right is is linked to artifice which is deception right so you've got manipulated which really just means humans got a hold of it and changed it with their hands also means something bad so really built into our language we have this idea that natural means good artificial manipulated that's bad think maybe it's because we have this insane power to manipulate things and we we all collectively use the power to manipulate things that was created by scientists that have a far greater understanding of what the implications and like what the process of this manipulation is and we just come along and use their technology and that's I think that's that's a problem with so much of what people do like weave weave find this power just by virtue of being alive and being able to trade in goods and services for whatever that they've created and then we don't think about the consequences of utilizing this stuff like what is there's got to be there's some sort of a balanced right there's a balance between if you want to have a fireplace in your house that's wonderful fireplaces are great it's a nice smell right you will you walk in the house to smell a fireplace if you're walking down the street and someone get their fireplace on smells put the whole f****** places on fire it's terrible you feel the smoke you can't breathe like there's a balance and clearly when you see polluted cities clearly when you see polluted rivers and we're destroying the environment there's a lack of balance with utilize this power that we have to manipulate our environment but we've done it completely responsibly or we've done it without the without awareness of the consequences of 8 million people doing the exact same thing yeah well I mean the scale you can do stuff on with Technologies really incredibly powerful right there Stewart brand the guy who started the whole earth catalog you know so basically we've become like God so we have to be able to wield his power responsibly I think it's easy to see that and say Wilden the evil is in the form of the power itself but obviously then if we got a nuclear bomb or we've got you know if we're polluting the world then the problem is with with the technology itself so you locate the evil in that you know what your semi take burning wood is a great example you know we got a lot of people on earth now we have them because kids are f****** dying all the time right I mean the so there's there's something there are something so I discovered I was reading this for example if you seen that cartoon where there's two cavemen in a room it's a New Yorker cartoon and they're talking to a room there cavemen during cave sorry nobody's looking past the age of 35 what's going on that cartoon is bulshit so people didn't just died at age 35 I was average lifespan because some of the kids were dying between the age of zero and five truth is if you made it past 5 then you had a pretty good shot at like 60 or 70 so so wasn't so bad at the same time another vision of what's happening just now getting that Evolution there's like an evolution cartoon where it starts with I don't know it Paleolithic man or chimpanzee or something and then it gets like a big strong Hunter with a spear and then technology comes in and they hunched over at the end and they get obese and they've got like a Coke in one hand and there's this idea like we'll technology is now we were perfect when we were natural and then Technologies made us worse and for me it's what you were saying the balance there are ways in which technology like my dad my dad is is 91 I talk to you I talk to anthropologists and like despite what you might you know what you might think that down a lot of 91 year-old hunter-gatherers they're just not out there at the same time as we're destroying the world so we got it we got to work out these problems without using simple binaries to figure out what's good and what's bad is better to have solar power than billions of humans burning wood but solar Powers obviously to me at least last match Ben billions of humans burning wood obviously to me at least less natural then lighten the password

hard to be comfortable with yourself so it's very hard to be comfortable with other people that's why I always stressing people like you've got to accept yourself for what you've done wrong do your best and also find some difficult s*** to do cuz that gets away a lot of the anxiety that you carry around your body a lot of like difficult things make regular life less difficult and it sounds so simplistic but particularly physically difficult things because when you do things that are fish play difficult the strain of making yourself do those things it's very valuable it's not just valuable like exercise and fitness and martial arts and running and whenever you doing this really difficult is that is valuable in terms of like Health in the way you look but it's also valuable for your mind maybe even more so because regular life can be confusing and little things that go wrong and little problems that arise are exacerbated by the fact that you're not accustomed to dealing with hardship so creating your own b******* whether it's through f****** some brutal kettlebell exercise or running up hills or something is extremely valuable for you also not not just accepting the nuanced perspectives of other people but also being able to navigate through this world with some sort of an understanding of just how complex it all is and how weird it all is and and not be overly thrown off navigate through this world with some sort of an understanding of just how complex it all is and how weird it all is and and not be overly thrown off by every little dip in the road and pothole that you encounter

that's one of the weirdest things about today right is that we are faced with these unparalleled crisis where we really we don't have anything to go off of we don't have a similar situation that happened you know in 1985 we are we are today with the coronavirus and then with the subsequent lockdown at the economy where everyone's terrified and then you have the George Floyd murder and then you have the looting in the riots in the chaos in the protest the coronavirus kicks in again and our leaders look impotent and we we can't look to want me when you have a guy like Donald Trump in office already you have a situation like cheese I hope the cabinet can keep this thing together I hope the Senate can hold this bonuses Madness we had a reality show host who's the f****** president but then all the Mayors are f****** up all the governor no one is that no one is equipped to handle this so you see unprecedented anger particularly online where you do you put your dealing with people this is want one of things that Drew me to you is one of the tweets that you made about processed information that online information is essentially processed information we dealing with like social media versus like actual communication like you and I are having right now which is what resonates with people I think it's one of the things that resonates with podcast is one of the reasons why I prefer to do in person it's the closest thing or conversation with a real person where is this viewing of text white on black and white letters in my case I used to night mode on a black screen it's so weird like you you have to interpret intent have to try to get in then you're not getting any social cues from the person you're not there's not a back-and-forth just you spit something out they spit something back and it's you're trying to approximate it's like to actually talk to a person it's very processed I thought that was you the way you described it was really the perfect definition of what ails us would it were so many people today are communicating in this way and it's very similar to people surviving off of processed food and becoming sick it's so if you think about if you think about how processed food was was created basically and I mean modern ultra-processed food because these terms are all released right just like the term Naturals this is on a spectrum write the history of cooking is a history of processing food right you like to cook I like to cook that's processing food desert is a kind of food that's been made to be highly palatable you know so it's not about processing being intrinsically evil but with ultra-processed Foods what you got a bunch of companies that are like all right what can we exploit about human appetites to make foods as compulsively readable as possible something like we have two Concourse stomach share this is a term that use so like there's a Coca-Cola fill the maximum amount of stomach share in in the humans of the world is our way of looking at people stomach share right and one of the ways they did it also would make it cheap inaccessible there's vending machines and every school meeting for a second how crazy that is that there are vending machines with just Coca-Cola and candy-bars me every single school we haven't you know it's in which extremely cheap highly palatable and very accessible food is everywhere no wonder we have a problem with our diets and that's exactly what's happening with information right now so I as as I understand it the way in which Twitter was designed for example they consulted with people who wanted to figure out how to keep you compulsively coming back slot machines right they consulted with people who build slot machines to figure out they were Pete what keeps people pulling the lever right so they could just have it refresh you just have your tweets about but instead there's a little alert button right you pull down a little noise like or whatever the noise is when you when you pull down on it you know and so they've made it compulsive they've made it highly palatable right you want it you want to keep coming back and the thing is the difference between Ultra process information and ultra-processed food is that I think we're were the company's now and that really freaks me out the consumers were also the manufacturers and we're also the Distributors we make the someone is going to take some cut of this show and turn it into a sound bite that's highly palatable in the way that that information becomes highly fallible it's going to be oversimplify it's going to have heroes and villains it's going to have a listen to demonize someone and it's going to be something that gives you a sense of belonging those are the three things I think that make information highly processed and highly palatable we want a hit of information that's easy to understand that. eyes of someone and that gives us a sense of belonging and that's just like exploding with humans want right you're saying you know we're creatures that want to love each other we want to belong right it's just the same way we want to taste salt sugar and fat we want to feel these things and the information that we have around us now it's but it's the same thing as a Snickers bar except the differences were sneakers were making it and we're behaving like junkies Junkies look at I don't know what percentage of Twitter discourse ends and people being angry with each other but it seems like it's half at least I mean it's just there's so much rabid discourse does just people piss each other and insulting each other and it's so unlike anywhere else in the world in tournament unless you're in a f****** war zone like the way people talk to the people talked to each other in real life the way they talked in on Twitter the emergency Ward would be filled people with broken faces and in shattered eye sockets it'll be chaos and social media and in certain ways facilitates being angry in the way you get angry. You like hockey because you're you're aware that split-second decision making is it's important to survival so when you're going 65 miles an hour and you look around everybody in this guy cuz if you're already at 7 or 8 and I think this is also part of the problem today online because the the coronavirus and because of the the lockdown and economic instability and we were at unprecedented joblessness right now I mean people are really hopeless there's a lot of people that they we got one $100 check from the government and then that's it and then you know you hear that Kanye West got this giant loan and Judd Apatow got this giant love is really wealthy people getting all this money but meanwhile salon owner small business owners didn't lot of people are just f****** furious at everything because it's like driving a car you're you're already heightened so this information that comes out you maybe wouldn't have pissed you off under normal circumstances but now you're f****** furious right it's like stress eating yet we have is I really thought about that with a with rodich but it does make sense right so when you're when you're already at that when you're already at that level then you're going to be even more likely to need that kind of information want to participate in that kind of dialogue stop focusing on problems with the system and problems with ourselves right manufacturing it and we're the ones consuming it so we can do things about it it ranges from you know I don't like I don't have I don't have a smartphone you don't know it's always be like using her phone so I don't know like if you don't have fun you can just go use my phone right now I'm installing things on my computer like Freedom which is this app that blocks you from I mean it's literally like you do with food right people have lost the only open Saavn app that like locks me out of these sites I have a folder on my desktop or on my I just yeah my desktop of my phone that says junkie and that's a reminder of my Instagram Twitter and all that start with Michelle you but I think we all need to but also we need to realize it's not just about natural unnatural not just about technology we've had this kind of junk food information around forever and this is where I think for me is a is a scholar of religious studies right if you look at myths and folktales and fairytales and if you look at the structure of religions there are he's to tell stories to get people heightened their ways to tell stories to make people feel belonging they're always tell stories to demonize people write these troops have been around forever right what do you do if you create a billing you tell a story about Redemption you tell a story about a fall you tell a story in which the people who are hearing the story just by hearing it becomes Heroes read these are these are things that have been sound for a long time in the same way that if you go back to thousand years if you were super rich and had access to lots of delicious salty sugary fatty food you could get fat it was just a lot harder back then and in the same way now we facilitated the manufacturer of this kind of these junk narratives that in small doses I think you're fine but if it's all were consuming it's a it's a disaster and we're going to end up I think with some kind of some problems that are analogous to the health problems that we're seeing because of what we accept these problems in our soul diabetes corrupting of our humanity and I and I catch myself doing it so that you were talking about about Trump visiting visiting the church and holding up the Bible is really angry pee smells like like yeah it's terrible and the people that disagree with it or either never going to read it or they're going to see it and there to be like see people keep attacking Trump like they're all crazy and it was more like a Chrysler I want it I don't want to be putting anything into this machine if it's just going to get processed into junk information so that we can feed our habit and this is a habit that we really don't know how when did Twitter get invented 2007 very recent that's not enough time for us to figure out how to do it right I mean like during the 52 so when I was a kid watching television for four kids all day was fairly new ride it only been like a generation or two that that was even possible to just watch TV all the time and it was consoling thought of as the corrupting saying like get out get away from the TV you're all you do is watch TV get up get outside and that was sort of the first indication that this there's a potential for an unhealthy relationship with technology and with distributed content right but I think Twitter is far more toxic than that because you're actually putting the content out yourself and then you're waiting to see how people respond and you shift the way you interact with people based on how they respond to your tweets right it's the belonging Facebook post of what it would have you was about food and how we came to fear certain foods like fat or salt or sugar and I'm thinking about it in this way right you needed technology to be able to process something to get it cheap enough so that it can be widely consumed right so information that allows you to belong right for a long time only certain people I mean for wild rice only people who could read and write right so that's that's all does the only people 2% and then now and forever it's so cheap to produce information that makes you a part of the community it's free right run to we do it all the time and like you said we haven't figured out how to navigate it and that's another confusion I think that people have natural vs. unnatural which is that we also just have problems with novelty as human beings write something people from eating too much we don't we don't know how to do it collectively as a society we clearly have not solved this pump and yet it's important remember that for most of the world the problem is still not having enough right so there was a time when the problem was people had no information you just didn't know anyting you know nothing that sucks to write so it's great that we have the internet that was far worse that was far worse or at least it was really bad and it was bad with a hunter-gatherer thing right weather was better in the state of nature I often hear people that's a great book called Against the Grain written by a guy who is Ezekiel and he thinks that we need to be easier on the past and hard on the present in this book and one of the things he points out it's like all people these days like humans modern don't have a have the knowledge of the natural world that hunter-gatherers do but at the same time they don't know theory of disease they don't know about you know Planetary Cycles and so it is always important for me at least as soon as I start to get sucked into one of these binary is right it was so bad it's so bad now today to remember that that it was all so bad in different ways in the past and we can't make the mistake of thinking that the problem with information in R&R consuming of it today we can't make the mistake of thinking that that the evil is in the four problem with information in R&R consuming of it today we can't make the mistake of thinking that that the evil is in the form it it we can make it good we can make it better we can learn how to deal with this I think I hope as long as we're conscious of the problem

honesty people have you seen this group if the people that are like you never lie about anything so it's this weird social experiment where they're just like you know but their way there with their loved ones or whatever and 11 ones like you like my shirt no I can know that it looks bad and you've gained weight right in like there's it's radical transparency about everything that I understand where they're coming from each other pecan right we're all watching each other but it's not the government's not big brother were big brother right and that I want to keep stuff I like it like that I love about being a stand-up comic is my friends are all brutally honest and they f*** with me we f*** with each other like I said you like the shirt and he be like no dummy stupid on you they will say something like that we both do it would say something like you think I gained weight like you know you gain weight motherfuker get on the scale you fat f*** and I'll say that to you and I started laughing there's no in the comedy world like an ugly world of my friends there's no room for dishonesty and if they think you're bullshiting they don't want to talk to you because it's no fun strong in that way though I like my argument with you right but like one of the things I realized in this want you know when I was there at that place in in Florida where this f****** charlatan is killing people or honesty that's just not the that's not they're going to suffer either they're going to suffer I agree I think you're right about that that there's there's certain people that you really shouldn't like you know if you're talking to a delicate person and they ask you a question and it's there's nothing wrong with just being complimented you look daddy look great you look great I like doing that to one of my things my wife what do you what is wrong with you she just wants love from her dad you tell her like that's a great love or like themselves put it on difficulty level like pretty easy setting you know my personally life and like I've been lucky I haven't been like super sick like who knows what kinds of crazy healing therapies I would be into running there was a guy at there's a guy at Duke who specializes in ALS Rick bed Lac photos of her incredible because he dresses wonky outfits like flashy like Tuxedos and crazy ties and stuff like because it's the best because it's the best thing I can offer my patience is these is I don't I can't tell them the scientific studies they're not here for that right I don't have anything to offer my ALS patients in terms of life science or rationality but what I can do is just make them feel light-hearted for a moment and I was like you tell them like when they come in pain the truth or at least you don't there's there's I don't know for me I really pulled back from I really pulled back really recently from from the idea that truth-telling is the way to engage with people who are in pain right I think a lot of Racine right now with black lives matter a lot of what we see with with with transgender activism political issues often write change is there's their groups of people who have been in pain for very long and individuals within those groups have been in pain and I don't know I think it's just important to sort of acknowledge that I had a lot of trouble doing that I would be like well here's the truth that's not necessarily that will give very upset if you do offer anything that anything that contradicts their narrative or someone's like literally trying I mean if it if you're trying to change the situation for the better write this out you can always throw nuance and you can always have a logical argument about something but I've become and I'm not saying I'm very on board with like you want freedom right like I want to be able to say chiropractors b******* I want to do that but like if there's someone who was struggling with chronic pain forever and found a chiropractor and they come back from that chiropractor and they say to me Alan for the first time in my life I feel like there's some hope this chiropractor helps me if I have that thing in my brain I'm with you can I see I saw I saw you I love this moment you were like you were talking about something and then you were like you look down and you were like wait I think I think we're making fun of this person what you said and I feel like and I was a moment or illogical things are the kind thing and I'm really Berlin now and I hope I just wish everyone was struggling to realize that that those are those are sometimes think immeasurable values sometimes be honest or tell the truth and also be kind at the same time right there's this book about a kid whose I can't believe I'm really just figured it was a book for young adults in it and there's this moment in that book where one of the teeth the teacher puts on the board when you're given the choice between being right and being kind always choose being kind sounds like the my first read that I was at. So stupid man you can be the way to be kind is by helping someone be right like tell them the truth right but I used to share that thought but I'm now in the group of be kind and as I've gotten older first of all I never I never I never I never went out with the idea that I would create something that millions of people would say never this was not something that happened along the way and as it was happening I became more and more aware of the impact and then the responsibility that comes with that impact and just through that process has made me a far nicer person because I'm I'm really aware of you know mean she like I never attack people I don't like it then I'd rather just not you know and I don't I don't even want this to me before the podcast before he would you do me a favor and not talk about this thing that happened to me I'm like I don't want to make you uncomfortable I don't we could talk about a million things you're a human being I'm a human being is not like a specific I don't want I want. Your moment if you want to talk about something that's in your heart that you want to get out I'll talk to you about it but I'm not I'm not a mean person you know and when I was younger I was and when I was younger I was I was in the group of f*** that telling the truth they need to raise reality it together and then and as I've gotten older I realize like there's not that's that's me worried about myself falling short that's me worried about worrying about my own failures and then wanting to sort of reinforce my own philosophies in other people because I was insecure and as I've gotten older I realize like there's not that's that's me worried about myself falling short lets me worried about worrying about my own failures and then wanting to sort of reinforce my own philosophies and other people because I was insecure

I don't want to die tomorrow today not even five years from now not 10 help if given the chance I would f****** live a thousand years if I could because I think that this world is so f****** amazing that there is no I don't think I could learn all the languages eat all the foods even the ones I don't like see all the mountains all the architecture meet all the people all the cultures of the f****** everything that exists in this just glorious f****** amazing place I don't know that I feel sad that my life can't go on long enough to know these things and but I've lived such a life to this point there are things that 10 year old me would just a just f****** had aneurysm thinking that this was ever going to be the way his life turned out considering what an outcasted bully f***** with you know really sort of twisted up a confused young lad and getting to where I am now and I can leave this place and die and my life has been f****** great Ivory I'm fulfilled I I live because I want to experience I want to create more I want to do more with my life and my life has been great enough Springer I've had all the things I need that are essential and laugh hard to find it is hard to find but getting through the all the adversity and coming out on the other end better for it I'm more concerned way I want to die right I think more about that you know where like the store I want to die right I want to go to Valhalla I want to I don't want to die apathetic way from living an epic life that's more of a concern in in terms of death but otherwise now death is there death is coming that's alongside me that's riding in the car with me everywhere I go and that's fine he's a good is a good f****** wingman it's great well there's there's that energy that comes with death that's that makes life so exciting if you were Immortal it be like playing God mode in the video game is it's not exciting no video games play Doom scared me as a kid when where can I buy friends I checked in the library computers but a video game where you playing in god mode is terrible and the reason why I cuz there's no consequences no wrestling thing is like there's no risk that there's no risk if there's no struggle there is no proper suffering in overcoming to use them just a generic words perspective you just go to your lowest state of energy are all things in the universe is subject to entropy and humans are no different and so obviously our bodies break down and if we don't have proper overcoming if we don't have a certain kind of suffering in our life or our agitation we don't grow a big fan of Heidegger so like being towards death knowing that this is inescapable stop trying to to look for anything to alleviate the burden of your own death and the responsibility of your own creation of an authentic life you cuz at the end of the day you can change your mind so you're that you created all these little things you can be a Christian or Catholic or whatever I you can you can if you're using these things to replace your your ownership of authenticity and the carrying the burden of your own being in the world then eventually regardless of all the sheet that you do when you're laying in bed at night and you're looking up at that f****** ceiling you know that you're a f****** fraud and that you're you you have a flow you've tried to offload something you can't get rid of yes yes a hundred percent well put I tell people don't ever seat Comfort seat Clarity and seek Improvement you're not going to comfort socks you tell a couple hours you want to chill and watch a movie but comfort as a lifestyle is b******* like you and you're not going to get any Improvement you need to be tested that that term agitation is excellent he Comforts eat Clarity and seek Improvement you're not going to comfort socks for a couple hours you want to chill and watch a movie but comfort as a lifestyle is b******* like you and you're not going to get any Improvement you need to be tested that that term agitation is excellent

often do you come across people that will fight you tooth and nail to the death to hold on to those preconceived I came across was even involved with this covet stuff was trying to talk to people about how the the mat in the mainstream media has had bad narratives from the get you know they were given bad information but they f****** double down on it all the time or if it's a who and they're running interference for China whatever right there's all this manipulation going around something that is not that is it's not subjective viruses are subjective that you just can't play this game with that kind of thing and people would fight me tooth and f****** nail to defend the mainstream media over it and I go look here's example 12345 look at other all f****** wrong their f***** up they're doing this to politicize and they're doing all these different things for different reasons but none of it is really for your own betterment of understanding to be safer and healthier and or even just to say we still don't know yet cuz we just don't have the data and people fight tooth-and-nail over the ship because there's so many people that use the current media apparatus as they're mainstream sense-making apparatus and if you tear that away from them now they have to sit back and go what do I really know what is the reality of what I think truth is what is what is the metric upon understanding now that you've just shown me that and of course even at its best course media is going to be faulty at times because just made up of people are always going to be in perfect was going to make mistakes but there is no admitting of mistakes anymore there's no saying I was wrong we were wrong no problem with mainstream media into the same problem that we have with the police you're giving people an inordinate amount of power and when you give people that amount of power don't want to ever let it go and they don't ever want to say the wrong and they don't ever want to admit fault and they don't ever want to open the door to nuanced correct and that's what you see with whether it's CNN or Fox News or what any of these m************ they have this idea that they've been selling you whether it's this idea about Russia with her CID about covid-19 the about Trump was the idea about Biden I mean they're selling you some s*** and it's it's very very difficult to get an unbiased perspective on the world they came after you there are no reason why they would write all this kind of completely disingenuous around a person who bring people on and has conversations and tries to tries to flourish that idea of the marketplace of ideas like having conversations and trying to earnestly explore things and try to have a better grip on the world and try to better Orient themselves toward healing and knowledge in addition to even have a f****** good time about it being competitive where there their they're interacting with people and they have this potential to really influence things in terms of the political process and terms of the way people view things that have a different perspective on things or connected to a traditional machine true whether it's newspapers or whether it's you know I have friends in both those things I have friends in media and I have friends I've people that have apologized for things that other people are written like listen man is part of the game you're not going to ride with me I'm okay I get it except you're not you're not sitting here saying that it's okay but what you're saying is I know what the landscape looks like me and I understand why you even look at very small things are taken out of context and develop your own perception of me that's an accurate I get it I don't I'm not angry about it correct but I don't I don't want I don't want it to be any different kind of like I like the madness relate to that yes this world was logical person like me wouldn't have no place where someone just comes from doing some livestream on a f****** laptop and then 10 years later as hundreds of millions of dollars it doesn't make any sense Universal I think you know when it comes to like studying history and religion because those are some of the oldest insights into way people think and the way people act and Within These Frameworks are tons of Windows into human thought process in Psychology and it's the same as yours in none of it has changed over the oldest religious text the oldest historical things we can find the story that exist the myths all these think they're all this listen to same s*** over and over and over again the first time ever thought I was reading the hagakure and seeing that the complaints and issues a criticism that this monk who is a form Samurai had of his current are in the 19th century the same criticisms problems in the same issues with people's actions driving from the same human places of insecurity and and psychological LMAO it's all the same s*** it nothing has changed in the Roman Empire in there like that in terms of which language you use but we don't act differently we're not driven from different impulses we're not in a we're not Russo we're not a blank slate you know I don't I don't buy that concept at all because we history would look so much radically different but in f****** doesn't and I've written you so many times and at times whatever has your old number probably a person like you is critical to what towards the interaction of the current Paradigm is you are a necessity because right wrong whatever Europe personal opinion is whatever it's a fact of creating the ability for people to get out here and speak nobody ever had Tulsi gabbard and Bernie Sanders in a place to feel more open and I'll say probably work as open as they could be but they're f****** politicians in this current Paradigm of the western politician who knows I'm legitimately sincere any of those f****** are but this has been probably the only place that you could have had someone like that and allowed it to to that window into their their least politician self you know I got to sit here and listen to Andrew Yang talk about UTI and be like nah dude I don't know if I can buy it but I like you I like you I like you or do you just it's just a matter of not being so pent up on OK Google on my narrative my my ideology my my f****** I got to travel eyes all this time to such a degree that I have to tear down everything else around me so the mind can exist and that even goes to it this evening I do like I don't need to Toto for other people to enjoy it you don't have to you don't have to tear apart the mainstream media for yours to exist you know now mind you the mainstream media tries to destroy you all the time but what is just players end in the media media itself is just a it's just a pathway for people to express themselves very limited I would say the media among a lot of things like there is a egg good for a term managerial Elites and so most things are big bureaucratic structures that have managers and all managers everywhere and they're all operating into that human resource Paradigm that we talked about that earlier than they usually create anything in this but how many times has anybody worked in a place where they have managed that has is so divorced from the creative or from the the actuality of creating a product or maintain or whatever the job role is and yet these people are making decisions all the time and bleeding into telling people how to do their job instead of managing people to be able to be best at their job while they're invested in as well because they have mortgages and they have bills and they have all they want the money to keep rolling in so their idea is to make sure that never this thing that they're doing whether it's a newspaper or whether it's a television show they want to make sure that they stay in the most wide mainstream of lanes it's going to bring in the most money and that's the weird part about media and Generals that it's motivated by people that are trying to seek a profit that's what they're doing and there's a giant machine behind them we have to video editors and Jamie that's the whole deal bring in the most money and that's the weird part about media and Generals that it's motivated by people that are trying to seek a profit that's what they're doing and there's a giant machine behind them we have to video editors and Jamie that's the whole deal

everything that you do should be in worship so to speak to what your ideal you're trying to create and you can't do that if you're insincere you can't do that if you're if you're just trying to be the packaging and not the item we were talking about that earlier that there's two part of the problem with social media that people are intoxicated with this idea of having other people think they're awesome so they they put a all this stuff to make it look like you know like there this amazing person in the NFL put up these quotes and put up this s*** but it's it's not really what they're into they just want you to think they're into it and it comes off that way like you get like one of my biggest pet peeves I can. And I was going to I posted a quote last night not a quote rather but an image of Miyamoto Musashi cuz I got I got into the book of five rings again I cannot wait to hear what what somehow came out of nowhere to tell you what it what a jerk you were how wrong you have any criticism but what I was going to criticize is I was going to say that I have an issue with there's a lot of people online it's not even that I have an issue it doesn't resonate with music better way of putting it without being negative there's so many people they're posting motivational s*** but they haven't done anything true it is trying Me Maybe feel that go do this this is this is how you go get it that's what the f*** have you done did you something and I didn't say this last night but this is what I meant when I posted it like if you want to take inspiration there's something about the words of me and Moulton Musashi that are profoundly inspirational because he's a man who bested over 60 men and one on one sword fight so was when he's talking about strategy where he's talking about technique and he's talking about preparation and you must search this you must look into this and this is how you go this is how you go about attacking this is how this is how you play off your opponent's strategy he's talking about life or death with a f****** sore can't get more serious in that comes through in his words might even translation from Japanese to English even though it's 400 years later there's something about that guy that gives me goosebumps man I read it s*** all I fell in love with Samurai philosophy long time ago from Toby and the hagakure and there's even one called budo or Samurai philosophy of the Samurai forget the name of it but it's a short succinct book that really nails down some things and I think part of why what they have to say is so so so thick and so so real so to speak is because it's life or death for them pills reading and you're reading this guy take my being in World War 1 and it's not that he was never afraid it's not that he didn't understand what war is it's just butthead from his position as a soldier in the way he approached things in the way he even still saw Beauty in these moments in living in that part of his life it's it's clearly somebody that I believe has a good grip on being towards death as Heidegger would put it like being embracing what it means embracing that you're awesome breaking the fact that you are going to die it is not going away that the death is alongside you and you don't know when it's coming and there's no need to because you're not supposed to be thinking about whether or not you're going to die or when it's going to come or anything like that but you need to be thinking about what you're going to do before that time does show up and how you're going to do it and why you know what is it how are you finding meaning and fulfillment in life so that when when death comes along and tugged on your shoulder in on your shirt you're like alright well this is it and those guys people that you've described whether it's Musashi or any of those people but what comes out in their words is authenticity because of the fact they have led these extraordinary lives and they have faced incredible danger they have lived there's there's something about that where you can genuinely learn from those people whereas there's a lot of people that really haven't but they know that people long for those things so they try to create it try to recreate these quotes or they try to find some words that will inspire you to get going in and seize the moment and make the most of the day and go out there and Conquer and right and then kick ass and then it doesn't mean anything to those kind of start attempting to take off its at presenting the Persona of that kind of individual mainly because they know that deep down all of us realize that there's wait to those kind of you know and I'm sure Peterson would be like

which one of your podcast a guy hits me up on Instagram is like so excited so I tell him what I want and he sends it on the mat and I smile and he goes what do you want to come in your mouth like that but it means different things the same way Malacca means jerk off and in Greek but they'll say he doing hey how you been f****** funny hey why don't you go put the comeback in you can you make me another one that just says my name

this thing that you did when you walked across Antarctica very impressive incredible but I'm sure you seen the National Geographic article Gordo about you and they said that there was another man from was it Norwayne that it done it already the yes wasn't the first time someone has gone across Antarctica actually a further distance call you know it's a little bit unfortunate I'm actually just practiced a 16 Page Letter asking that you had her retract the entire article on the reason 16 pages is unfortunately the entire article I wrote is so riddled with inaccuracies and kind of misrepresentations and omissions that you got this wrong I was in 1996 I mean a 20 some years before that I attempted my Crossing is he crossed Antarctica from the edge of the coastline cross the ice shelf all the way across the land mass across the other ice shelf roughly eighteen hundred miles and what he used to propel himself was use the kite for a good portion of the time and it's an absolute extraordinary project and what's really weird about this National Geographic article number of census is one of the premises of it was saying no, never talked about Borg Iceland like we never talked about him in his book he never mentioned in he never this and in my book which really bizarre and why were asking for a retraction cuz it's just really an ineffectual is that you do here I am on page 49 of my book literally it says Norwegian Adventure board in many ways to find the terrain of astonishing modern antartic feet becoming the first person to cross Antarctica solo when you travel 1800 miles in 63 days from 1996-97 not only did across the entire landmass of Antarctica but he also crossed the full run ice shelves from the Ocean's Edge Allison's Expedition is deeply inspired me and was unsupported hauled all of his food and fuel with no resupplies it was weird as like the journalist like wrote this article but we didn't read my book and I had done I don't know a lot of speculation I did this big project in the film Project around the roses with Discovery I don't know if Matthew is coming at Discovery whatever but it is it's really bizarre we can talk about all the different kind of fine points of that but the big distinction and like I say I said Shuffle route to breath. But I'll say it here again Borg Iceland is absolutely incredible like I'm in awe of the guy what he did in 96 is phenomenal that's why I write about it in my book that's why I've written about of my social but after I finish my Crossing I wrote about it on there as well and I said wow it's snowing people have inspired me I'm standing on the shoulders of giants the only way I was able to do this impossible first he did it first right so the difference is is there kind of to really specific distinctions in the world of polar travel supported which means not using not using. Getting sorry not getting resupplied with food or feel like I was talking about with the food and then there's unassisted which means not using anything to propel you other than your own body so that's called human-powered alone so what he did is considered assisted in that use a kite what is twice the distance to me which is amazing two instances where the wind was right so that's another one of the things that the National Geographic article unfortunately got wrong and my 16 Page Letter that anyone can read its on my website call nobody. Com blog later than that geoworks link to my Instagram it's not like a he said he said they were I'm like okay that's got wrong kind of documented and Source document that has links to everything and one of the links that shows is actually his entire kind of project afterwards in the aftermath been talking about including talking about Parowan which was the one of his sponsors that guys actually built and manufactured the kite and they're talking about how he used it for about at least 1/3 of his journey 6 600 or so Miles as well as you know he was able to use the kite going a hundred and twenty-five miles in a single day which is like I said it's amazing it's really incredible what he did in the time that he did it it's just really kind of an apples and oranges comparison when it comes to Polar travel in the distinctions of that in the world use some assistance so there's basically these different distinctions in the world of polar travel not another one of things again I'm not sure how they got this wrong I am in the Lincoln the 16-page thing I show the text message when the journalist asked me will tell me about these definitions of unsupported an unassisted when I sent him a link and there's these links it's this kind of publish thing on this website called an article Logistics and Expeditions the main source of expedition facilitative person who like runs Logistics down there it's very clear unsupported means no use of reason unassisted means no use of kite or dogs answer thing that I did so low that people I guess I've gotten somewhat confused about or that a first was I was the first person to cross the landmass of Antarctica solo unsupported no resupplies an unassisted no kites laporta Allison did is he was the first person to cross Antarctica not just the landmass but also the ice shelves so there's frozen ocean on his ice shelves so from The Cove cross tire shop across the land mass and across the other ice shelf and no one yet including myself has ever done a solo unsupported unassisted Crossing of both the landmass and the ice shelves I hope someone doesn't matter be amazing I had 375 lb flat and I almost ran out of food at the end crossing the landmass and if you need maybe a 600-pound slide or something like that or maybe more optimized food solution that no one's thought of yet but hasn't been done yet Iceland sled similar-sized me so he was out there for nothing is out there for 63 days but roughly I was out there for 54 days so we are not out there a lot difference in Generations time so the sled really did make a big difference that if he's going that much further than you exactly exactly calculate back tomorrow like a hundred 25 miles in a 15 hour. Of time that's unfair haven't evolved as walking pulling a sled they're just two different things it's like difference between sailing across an ocean and rowing a boat across the ocean. That wrong then because the way they wrote it it was you know is they made it look like you're just a famewhore and that you know there was a bunch of other explorers and Outdoors people that were in support of the fact that house when was the only one the first one to do it make this distinction and they actually made it seem as if this the sled was an ingenious solution but it seems like that was a planned thing and that was an engineered thing and that it wasn't something that he built up on the Fly this was the method that they used to help him get across the snow total a deep like I said if you look in the pet letter that I wrote It's got links to actually manufacture dates kind of talk about is being with elegant solution is like he put a kite up randomly intelligent Kai and like I said it is not Me Knocking on that actually think that project gets one project inspire me the most to do what I did it is amazing that tells me how is there any photograph of Jocelyn Skype want to see what it looks like it's just what you did 50 how many days again 54 days alone just pulling that thing and you showed us what it was like last time you were here and some of the areas we had to pull it it seems like an insane physical undertaken totally I mean so many times but it felt impossible I think I can talk about it last time but the second chapter my book is called Frozen tears because on the first hour trying to pull my sled during a 75 lb fully loaded food and fuel I started crying like I literally started crying but the tears are freezing them the all-time pathetic feeling I mean it was really really brutal and really challenging any one of the things for sure in the National Geographic article they're not they're not disputing that I did this is all I could say you didn't walk 930 to buy yourself across Antarctica credit for doing something really freaky the difference between the time it took you to travel that in the time it took us one to travel a far greater distance for that use that kite to go within a hundred miles in a day think that yeah I hope we can pull up a picture of the house and Cat with the kite and it's it's linked in their hot finding his specific types difference is a big ass f****** tight I'm sure there's a lot of power behind it too and I bet that really helped him totally and it wouldn't ski with those things like the fact that he's got skis on and he's getting pulled by that kite I mean you're gliding yeah you're not propelling yourself they're both really cool things are. yeah it's like if you imagine got bored like boarding on the water so I just dropped at the waist he's holding on to that that kite but it's pulling him while he's on skis yes where is what you did was pull with trekking poles and across country skis with skins but just give me traction so I didn't think too deep in the snow but I'm just walking basically just calling it with my own body fully he's not doing that it's a different thing there's a Shore thing I'm sure there was times we had to walk right yeah yeah he man hold for parts of it as well like I said knific in distance but a lot of it when the wind was with him he I put up his kite and pulled along and it's acting he was able to go more than a hundred miles and a day makes me go wait a minute what a different thing more than one time in 13 hours f****** ridiculous different thing completely completely Geographic Jesus Christ yeah they should have been really clear about that they were trying to make it out like some elegant solution that occasionally is not big deal but what he really did was made with what he did was f****** amazing there's no no doubt image of him getting pulled by that giant ass f****** kite on skis strapped to this harness with all the weight behind them also being pulled by that send a Skype that's a different thing hundred twenty-four miles in a day pulling 300-plus pounds get the f*** out of here in the day let alone who holds the world record for the fastest 24 hours ever run ran it full clip at 11 hours here and a hundred miles and 15 minutes hundreds of pounds or 50 minutes is a 15 minutes 15 hours and 24 miles while dragging hundreds of pounds a year all in 15 hours is insane. That's insane if Zach bitter can run a hundred miles and 11 hours and break a world record or record American record American record I did a hundred and twenty-four with hundreds of pounds of gear in a sled in 15 hours exactly that's a different thing and so being able to do that running is incredible that guy being able to go further in Just 4 hours law hunger pulling hundreds of pounds of gear come on National Geographic. Just two different things at different ends not unimpressive it's incredibly impressive Niger has a f****** steel resolve to be able to do that and get all the way across the ice shelves and all that s*** they had to do absolutely and I'm being the biggest thing for me is a person I've ever seen a portrayed in a certain way and if it wasn't back tractor what that but like for me the whole purpose of any of this the whole purpose of writing the book and sharing with the world and being on you no talking to people we know fear podcast or whatever my whole goal is to inspire other people to step outside their comfort zones do things in their life challenge themselves like it's this is not about me it's not about notches and the Beltway be a little bit about you you wrote a book I like it and the notes were so brutal I gave him the money back punchline set upon sounds like this is not how you write things guys like they wanted they have been without the intonation of the voice and the yeah they actually wanted to take my stand up the offer to just take my stand up and transcribe it into a book I said I'd never do that come on man but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to write a book that well I'll tell you I have walked across the landmass America by myself I wrote about what I've done some other crazy s*** in my life but the hardest thing I've ever done is try to pull up and thinking about you know there's but it's subtitles from fire dice or talk about utopian burn the Spire in Thailand being told out never walk on my way going for his peace in my life but one of the things that happened when I was an article which it was interesting to me maybe you'll find it interesting is as I was out there by myself and it's empty white landscape 24 hours of daylight and was white nothingness my mind started feeling in with all of these memories so I completed almost on my music I'm in silence I'm up. Alla to and like I said you hate Joe the day you graduated from high school and like someone's going to pop in your mind right now we're going to keep talking and you're going to move on from that when I was walking out there by myself pop my head like hey, remember that your first swim race when you're a little kid and all the sudden like I'd be back there like I could like dive in and I could see my mom on edge of the pool deck in the you know the winds blowing across my face and I can see the kid next to me and I can taste the chlorine in my mouth and visceral memories like a lucid dream were coming back to me throughout for weeks and weeks and weeks at a time so the book itself it reads about Antarctica but it intersperses the way my experience wasn't an article which was actually going back in through my life tapestry of visceral memories and flashbacks other Expeditions in childhood in the ups and downs in my personal life and kind of all of these things kind of conspiring into one but it was it was wild to go deep into the brain like that I'm sure that we should point out we've had a podcast before in this podcast that we did before was right after you got back from this journey and Antarctica and you describe the whole thing and Thailand you described that getting adjourned and how you never thought you're going to walk again and yeah all that stuff we should tell people so stop go back to the other one back here again set you when the National Geographic article came out like what did you see like while they just got it wrong let me let me straighten them out you know it you know it hurt my feelings obviously and I was kind of just it was because it was so factually inaccurate and National Geographic is a magazine Iran I've looked up to you throughout my entire life is just like a really beautiful in a platform and so I was just surprised I was surprised that I was never asked for a proper long from interview this I was surprised that I was never contacted by a proper fact Checker there was just some things that were just like weird not a place and no I guess it was a freelancer and again I don't know the whole story behind it would have very little in like praising people there's a whole lot taking people down if they could find that you did something that you did something incorrect or you lied about something or exaggerate about something mean they may you out to be a liar yeah I read it and I was like wow like they're they're saying he's a liar you're saying how much of it is fiction literally said fiction but how much of it could be fiction if you f****** really did walk before God damn days I'm not the kind of weird but I also had a GPS on me the entire time it was completely transparent Journey we're life or deceive the New York Times covered it they had my GPS tracker up live the map of my route is in the first page of my book let alone online 24/7 there's been hundreds of Articles written about this by Outlet to effect in research or whatever so far not to make all those claims it's like saying like calling somehow tricked every person ever from every news Outlet that's covered this in fact check it and reported on it and editors of the book and the impact it has like a crazy conspiracy weird like because everyone knew how do you say his name is Iceland Iceland Iceland had done it everybody knew that I was only done it maybe they just didn't understand the details of it so they started complaining hey he didn't do it first Allison did it first and this guy is like I got a story so he goes to try to go after you but then realizes it's kind of a kind of did it entire article he takes a quote from page 50 of my book and a quote from page 214 of my book. As if they're single statement and I'm like they're about to completely different things that I'm talking about and you're like dude. That's what people do not want to sell dirt you know or he says like calling made up this thing about no rescue zones no one's ever written about the fact of inner Carney talks about me getting picked up in Antarctica like I can call an Uber he literally says in their uses I mean getting picked up in Antarctica is like calling an Uber which is by itself is really really so that I said that in the article which is just crazy in the woods in Montana okay Google Borge ousland in 2018 right after 2019 right after I finished my Crossing he's interviewed about all this and interquartile linked to this I might you know my letter it's him saying there are parts of Antarctica particular in a large Distributors exactly what I was talking about where rescue is impossible like he the guy who used against me is also quoted saying the other thing but then he says it's like the whole thing is just you know there's so much money and that's that's what it is I'm sure I wrote that article is probably a little bit of a hater yeah you know probably saw you in like a f*** this guy you know is if the world we live in enforcement I try to let you know keep my head up like I said I read this book to inspire other people to step outside their comfort zone to amazing what you did and what you really did do was walk by yourself 54 days through Antarctica and then thinks he's even saying something about it was on a road yeah and I'm like hey b**** why don't you walk Dragon 300 pounds on a road like does that matter everything's covered in snow and ice with all my GPS which by the way I talk about my book with fries with a widely acknowledged and it's called the South Pole Overland Traverse and so the South Pole station the US military the u.s. research station at the South Pole is resupplied throughout the summer season from the coast and a drive is kind of a bunch of tractors basically up this area called the levirate glacier and a paved Road has been driving over ice and snow Annex Building and crevasses along the way excetera and there's some tire tracks and some flagging that are out there so first wife already traveled almost 600 miles without any of that and then as I get there and we know this part of it and I'm talked about why do with all the poor expert all of the people that make the classifications and unassisted refers specifically to Kites and dogs and they're trying to make this claim that the road somehow Court Uncle Eric big are quotes Road basically some brought it up tracks in the snow you know I'm I'm outside of paved road bike what do you think happened is blown over immediately so I never saw these tractors oversized Vehicles flags of course that's awesome Reddit tracks but I link to it on my letter to this not much different than walking on flat ground no not at all and still there still is still huge bumps of snow and all the while the timer for ten feet in front of me is parent about the fact that I use that route it was safest route was the only route to Logistic Company Wanda support and it fell completely in the distinctions of what is known as unassisted and he tried it kind of makes his Claim about that's not true or people are we thinking that and we're weird things is there now because of some of this the polar Community have gotten together after my project for my project squarely falls in the definitions that they were followed all the rules and all this now they're sitting together and they're saying you know maybe we should rewrite some of these rules or make certain definitions different the problem is it would be like this this is what I'm calling me so like a liar something be equivalent of this with Major League Baseball got together and said you know what all games in baseball are going to be 10 Innings now instead of 9 Innings and all of those guys over the last hundred years that played 200,000 games or whatever who played nine innings they cheated they lied they didn't play the full game if they want to change whatever distinctions are classification of stuff but we're looking great and what would the distinctions be that they would change this you can't do it on a road I think they're trying to make it finer-grained which is like there be like a kite distinction there would be no supported distinction there would be a distinction for using you know partial of a if there was a fighting or or this like you know road which by the way is not a road to be cleared snow and ice to put the rest of it I don't I don't there's no point in time was it like flat ground ice fluoride who's the other guy horse racing out there in Antarctica he wrote a whole blog post about this link to in my letter and you know of course he did the exact same thing as me by the way the exact same thing same distinction and you know I finished a couple days ahead of him what he did was absolutely incredible is this is this race we talked a lot about it in the book and ton respect for that guy's well friend of mine and you know he about this you know quote" Road at the South Pole Overland traverses it's actually noun and he's like it's rugged up tracks like you couldn't even if the parts where I saw tire tracks it's like actually worse then cuz it won't sleep because you don't slide across the snow is all grown up its trunk up it's actually like tripping you it's like even worse than hitting on broken ice Rice's powder golden Antarctica but that's how it sounds when you say part of it was on a road it sounds like like this the Christ that's it that is the road that I'm not really a f****** road man that's just Flats know exactly yeah that's wrong melee deceptive because they made it seem like all then you get to the highway and just walking 54 f****** days across Antarctica and I know they acknowledge that in a small way in the article but they really like that just that just a description calling that a road like that it's me sort of technically a row there's no f****** ground mats just all ice and snow turn about that was my route as all the people there like you up here within the rules you're doing the right thing no one's ever done this before and then he know damn everybody's a f****** hater that's where we're having a fortunately because when they try to get out the other one when they try to get out the other ones grab them and Dragons yeah exactly exactly are piled on top of each other you look for apps now I can't walk 5040 you can't either

the fear of death and the attitude of the finite life being insignificant that the like what is the point of existential angst that the many of us struggle with right right that's something that you touch upon really early on that this this thing that makes us unique is that we know that we're going to die yeah yeah that that to me is the vital distinguishing feature of our species you know we can reflect on the past and think about the future and recognized so we're not going to be here in the future at least for some. Of time and it's him it's an idea and it's powerful motivating influence is one that has been explored throughout the ages aderonke was one of the early Disciples of Freud who ultimately broke with Freud develop this thesis that our awareness of our own mortality is one of the driving factors in what we do and then when I was I don't know was in my twenties or thirties I read a book by a guy named Ernest Becker called denial of death I know if you've ever heard of this book it was in the 70s who won the Pulitzer Prize in the 70s and it's a wonderful distillation of this way of thinking about why we humans do what we do and in many ways you my own book the one that's coming out actually today until the end of time it's some it's extending this notion that Becker developed in denial of death but now seeing it in a cosmological setting because it's not just we that are going to die it's every structure in the universe is going to disintegrate in time are our best theory suggest what it even protons the very heart of matter their Quantum processes that in the far future will ensure that every proton disintegrates falls apart into its constituent particles and that point there's no complex matter around at all what would it would timeline we talk later pretty pretty big long timeline in fact I'd like to use a metaphor to try to give you a feel for the X in Fallout I like to use the Empire State Building and imagine it every floor of the Empire State Building represent adoration 10 times out of the previous floor to like on the ground floor it's like one year first floor tenure second 400 and so forth so you going exponentially far in time as you climb up the Empire State Building and and that's things everything from the Big Bang until today you're about at the 10th floor 10 to the 10-year 10 billion years and as you go forward you are looking at things very far in the future and to answer your question we think and I_think because we're now at the speculative end of our theoretical ideas protons will Decay roughly and say by the 38th floor so 10 to the 38 years into the future we can relax for a little bit here's the here's the thing the amazing thing obviously is it sounds trite the time is relative right too many duration that seems long it's only long by comparison to another duration and onto the scale of the entire Empire State Building up to say 10 to the hundred years into the future which is what the peak would represent 10 to the 38 years is like less than the blink of an eye and nothing on those scales so he's going to have to be careful with your intuition you're willing to entertain the kind of fantastically long time scales that you necessarily need to if you're going to think about the very far future is their speculation as to what happens when protons do cease to exist yeah we anticipate that are all complex structure will fall apart so if there any stars leftover we believe that by the fourteenth floor most stars will have use up their nuclear field early building dark Embers just sort of Enos Smokey out they're in the cosmos but if they're still hovering around by the 38th floor they will all just dissipate into their particular ingredients so it's hard to imagine past say floor 38 that there's going to be any life for any mind or any complex astronomical structures out there in the universe so the window within which the universe as we know it exists it's kind of small when you think about it in terms of the entire Cosmic timeline so impossible to understand the actual span of it because it is so long but yet so small like any in the human mind yeah it's a very hard to hold these duration in mind I mean I don't I don't feel like I have been thinking about this stuff for a long time I don't feel like I have an intuition for the durations that we are talking about and take the Empire State Building that little and algae helps me to sort of give some relative sense of when things adventurous what happened the universe but you know we're good at understanding days weeks months years the times of no conventional experience we have no basis for understanding the universe over the scales that we've never experienced you know that's true not only for time is also for space right I mean we have very good intuition about everyday phenomena time and about to take this bottle of water I throw it at you catch it you know where to put your hand you wouldn't have to calculate its Newtonian I can figure out where the water is going but if I was to do the same thing with electrons you don't have another do I a Quantum intuition about the wave function the probabilities that govern our particle like an electron behaves and that's simply because we were unfortunately or fortunately born as big creatures relative to the scales of quantum mechanics and because of that our intuition was never under any evolutionary pressure to understand how electrons behave that guy like to say forebears wandering around the African Savanna who started think about electrons in quantum mechanics they got eaten right there the one who's James didn't propagate onward and there for those of us who are the beneficiaries of the survival of our ancestors were good and understanding Newtonian physics but we're not good at understanding anything else about the Deep reality of the world do you anticipate that someday in the future whatever is next after human beings will be able to understand this concept because it's you something about with us for about a hundred thousand years that's right and it's it's a good question and it's a tough one I like to imagine that as we get ever better at creating Virtual World virtual reality or whatever augmented reality whatever version of that kind of Technology taking over in the far future we might be able to experience these distinct Realms in such a powerful way that our innate intuition May begin to shift to change so that we grasp the quantum realm the way we grasp Newtonian physics I can least imagine that as a as a possibility what it would take to actually get there and whether our species will ever last long enough to actually have that kind of an impact on her intuition I don't know but it's all about experience in survival we have been programmed by Evolution not to understand the true nature of the world we've been programmed by Evolution to survive and those are two radically different propositions cuz you don't need to know the true nature of reality to survive it's a distinct attribute and one that is not necessarily one that has any survival value to understand black holes or the Big Bang or general tivity or quantum mechanics or entropy of thermodynamics entropy of thermodynamics these qualities we develop as we go forward and try to understand the world go beyond mere survival and figure out things that excite us but it's not something which obviously has any survival value May someday it may

iPod touch the only that besides that and iTunes you bring to a museum I have no interest in having any Apple products I use a laptop that's a Windows laptop though I use Windows everything everything super programming geek or anything like that but I remember what it was like you have to operate things you had to learn how to use Doss and then other operating system before that or using Unix type base stuff to get on the internet and do things from the library back in the day so for me I just want the ability to get what I need and I have them out proper amount of storage is necessary and and then that's it my phone isn't holding music on it it's not for its I have Spotify which the way I've just took over what used to be the adrenaline workout Spotify playlist and now it is the warmaster's work out until I put together 96-97 songs for this playlist for people to just go absolutely f****** 8shit in the gym and and get their s*** done and so so I I now if you have the warmaster's work out if you guys are out there and you want to be filled by the the incredibly powerful thing that is metal I only want to get. Stains 50 people off the stage at night Andy Williams he's an 80w with a pro wrestler right now as well blonde thing who may be weighed 110 pounds at Honor best day who I checked her once and she comes back she goes I'm going to do it while holding his beer the whole f****** time but still I have a picture that I got from someone where she's launched into the air still has your beer she lands on the crowd when she comes back to Backstage you guys hadn't spell it that's hilarious through the glass would you get a little drunk oh no risk no reward man maybe a shot glass I'll throw someone with a shot glass rack the shotguns Hard To Break Free heartbreak yeah but appear like a regular beer glass that's all I think that's bad news bad news

there once and I did like it I would I had it was a Grizzly but I've had a lot of black bear and I have no idea what kind of bear this was I'm not too hip to the bear population or buried bear genius genus of Far East Russia North where its -30 degrees below at night and I'm up there where in Espana and they haven't set up where they have a an oven with rocks and stone and it say they will put for water over the stones and things like that it's not it's not exactly it's not finished but it's it's a similar to any other sauna set up so you can come across without a steamer and that's also famous for they have a process where they take these bundles of tree branches with leaves and everything on them and they'll use White Oak eucalyptus other and put Blends together and what they'll do is that take these two bundles and I'll Whip the air around you as you're sitting there they they whack your body with it and the leave these bundles are made of mostly fresh so they're still oils they're still alive or are there still elements within is not fully dried out or anything like that so this thing is all being hit upon you and I'll hit your feet and I'll do all this kind of stuff to be honest so the first time ever went through this this guy is like eating my ass with these things 3 minute sessions or whatever and I'm on the third one which is like towards the end and he sees things around me and circulating all the super hot air and I swear to God my pay less sensitive white boy skin was just felt like it was on f****** fire at to the point that I started I'm like I'm yelling in Japanese in Russia and jumping into a cold pool because I I that's f***** up from getting my ass beat by the Russian guy with a pile of sticks Japanese I have no idea do you not know any Russian no I don't know and you're trying to get through it are you trying to ascertain the beating from the sticks is like the next level right it's frustrating enough dealing with the heat it up your taint all this s*** your cycle really there's no way of stopping this can't often really neglected part of the human body that I'm going to start somewhere specific around a how you need to massage and stretch the paint and you have to you know I bet your taint is all locked up at the Fashion part of the human body. I'm going to start something specific around a how you need to massage and stretch the paint you have to you know what your taste is all locked up

this is batch 2 which has like a big dark chocolate note to it and it like how do you make a dark chocolate I'm at every Okie I tasted tannins on my thing is thinking so one of one of the people apart of this company cat she's whiskey Somalia so when I asked her notes from her yeah you smell what you smell you related to the things that you can relate it to me and that's it for a long time with a note they told us to look for with cat piss what is the number one problem with having cats man they f****** pissed me up whenever they're out if you don't clean the people don't know if they have cats they think the cats are food near adorable there they are adorable but they're responsible for billions of mammals and billions bird in the United States every year does have a cat pee note encourage people to want to drink it and what are you in the mood for you know this cat pee would go with the steak right now in master of wine scatological tasting terms are comparatively this smells like specific like Bangkok street food diarrhea from the 80s at a Guns and Roses concert China man the spider Alyssa and I got Alyssa this fight in in China prior to this whole tour I had set up so Alyssa Garcia is a 105-pound fighter of mine but I got to this fight at 1:15 in China and I was shipping her to go train with Santa noise and then she was going to fly back to Tokyo finisher I was going to meet her and then she fights and Rising so we're over there and we're being taken out to this big fancy dinner ahead of the event and the promoters there were in Shanghai so all this big deal with this private room and I like is Chinese wine and are the Chinese fermented liquor and I'm like well that's that's on it and I drank it I'm just a dude from here yeah that sucks I hate it you know to on your fancy want your fancy booze and she tastes like this tastes like an old abandoned home that is being rained on for years and what you've done now is all this water has leaked through onto the floorboards dirty floorboards have been collected and it's been filtered out Hobo's sock the f*** man I go by what I ever do that I need to know next time to set it up I need to know if it'll probably happen in Texas so rude elaborate people describe it as it tastes like something you run you like clean a carburetor with its its fermented sorghum and other stuff

a great micro version of what we're talking about is the Capitol Hill autonomous Zone which turned out about people wanting to be on Capitol Hill so bad that they were willing to live in shared apartment shared shared living space scenarios where they're sharing bathrooms and kitchens and all this and paying stupid money for a room and I don't mean a room in a house I mean purpose-built habitation scenarios to to do that I don't want to live there that bad I mean April ship they're all over Seattle what was it about Capitol Hill because I'm not a Seattle guy I was just you know it was the gay or LGBT I guess now as you would refer to a epicenter there was a lot of their had some head shop stuff it was a sort of a counterculture District you know and I remember as a kid here we go up there and go to the weird little store then you got to be the place where you want to buy some crystals and all that kind of stuff it would be there a groovy very densely cultural place and famous for a lot of things you know some things unfortunate like me as a pot of getting killed behind the comet Tavern or but also for many many great things to but it was it would definitely be the place where you would see something like a Chaz pop-up it's just that the separation from idea to reality with something like a Chaz is and it's always going to be this case it's always going to be just mountains between the two you know the funniest part I think from me is watching that altercation video with Raz and his his his new police stating where the police now and the guy being approached for graffiti in a building going wool and what's up with all the no big deal I'm well all the worst aspects of a country they put up a border immediately they kept people from going and they had no medical they had no police there police was a bunch of thugs and something went wrong they beat people up attacking one guy was filming things they didn't like each other which to one side I'm thinking see I f****** told you people violence isn't the worst thing in the whole world like you know to be perfectly honest violent can bring people a lot closer together than you think you know we've never trained together but we know what it's like to train so there's already this inherent Rapport between us and then they're the Rapport between you and anybody that gets on the mat is almost sucked out immediately because you just cannot be cannot be on in a situation like that and then be living on Persona alone you need to really be who you are and that might be a really great fighter might be a really mediocre want it doesn't really matter everybody is generally towards their purest self when put into that kind of scenario it is Chuck I can't see his last name lying about you never know who you are until you've been in a fight like yeah so long you really want to know who you are getting to a fight yeah but but watching that and then you also decided he's going to see like perhaps you know a little bit of fisticuffs could could make things a little better you know especially if we're to talk about the blob mutual combat that exists in Washington where those get ko'd you're going to Mike he might die about the Conch that has to be included in in such a lot if you have to be like look you're taking your life in your own hands like legitimately if you doing out in the dirt scenario for everything you can't there's always going to be that 110 whatever it's it's just not possible and so and then you see this guy in Psycho it's all good but it's got to just Mac people all the time in that part of the problem with with police issues in general right I mean we can go on about I've seen that you do you get the arguments about stats from the FBI and about the shootings and unarmed shootings and all this kind of stuff but they don't have stats for how many times has a cop's is beat someone's ass but with the the Chaz you give you this thing that the saddest thing about all this even besides I'll take an argument on this even besides all the f****** property damage and they're just tearing everything up and obviously loss of life right there is there Ides I'll take an argument on this team besides all the f****** property damage and they're just tearing everything up and obviously loss of life right there is there are at least two right

when people you know like the idea of backpacking hunting that's what they're liking is the idea of a kiss me up glamorise the s*** out of it they say that like like Alaska sheep hunting in terms of like just the difficulty of the terrain and the the dangers of it yeah somewhat yeah I would say that I've only been on a couple sheep hunting Alaska right most of mine have been in lower 48 or the nwt in Northwest Territories the thing with the last cuz it's easy is you're not getting that much altitude distance is far you're not but the weather is bad like generally the weather is pretty bad and then that the amount of pressure now and again I'm not an expert on Alaska the pressure is much worse than it's ever been in Alaska animals Grizzlies and s*** crazy stop right you called the grizzly and I'm coming into a music all right so I'm like hey let's get this on video cuz he was looking for a moose calls so any f****** this other dude so I'm like you can see my camera shifting right a little as I'm taking these photos I have a weapon at a bow and so here pretty quick I'm thinking for shoot this m*********** it's like 15 yards from us and he fired off around its feet and I knew his gun jammed on the second round sometimes so I'm like it came again I things like 12:10 yards when it finally turned off and all my man away but 10 yards is nothing I tell you like that's almost like that wall and you know that that's part of how I think the tobacco industry approach to this they would they would have counterfactual where in a world without tobacco without cigarettes and then they would imagine what that would be like and of course I'd always imagined it was what much much worse more than right also that the man in question 1 the quitting cigarettes so right you live your life to to be deceptive in a way that you know is going to I mean there's I don't know how many people have gotten cancer from cigarettes but it's probably killed I want to make sure I get this right I think maybe both Wars World War 7 million a year I think is the is the global death toll in the US it's 480,000 here now and in this is where the process I try to explore a little bit in the book they're working in an industry they're confronted with some accusation that they have caused harm they checked their gut and their gut says no we didn't intend to cause harm we don't feel guilty and their tribal instincts which are never more than just a millimeter below the surface for pretty much any of us so they immediately think well these people accusing me must have an ulterior motive they must be they want money they want Power they want attention they've got some Sinister political objective and then there's the other part of that tribal dynamic as they start thinking about themselves and end their truly lofty Mission which isn't justice sell a product but something else it's to protect Freedom or if you're a slave trader it's to rescue the Africans from terrible bring them to the comfortable plantations assault would be you know making a small but you know racially Salient comment in the presence of a person of that price Jamie just pulled up here on Microsoft does explicit racial derogations character look at that expression a Microsoft is an explicit racial derogations so you put somebody down on purpose I know but that's a weird way of describing an explicit racial derogations plural and singular characterized primarily by verbal or non-verbal attack meant to hurt the intended victim through name-calling there's your - avoiding Behavior or purposeful discriminatory actions edu reason. Kzoo.edu nice and it's like this is supposed to be for education is barely literate what is going on with that's a problem when using they and them as well right yeah I really supposed to I mean for the most part indicate multiple people yeah right hard to use it that way all the time right it's hard to use it intentionally Ashley it's it's wanted to go to the store they could go right and there's something like kind of totalitarian thing that's a great name so you can argue with you also can argue do you support black lives matter and of course his house January of last year January 2019 Tiffany haddish took me to his house and last night that I was really not supposed to be there I wasn't invited but Tiffany like come with me and I'm like hell yeah so I went and it was then it was this incredible f****** knighted Eddie Murphy's house where I walk downstairs first person I see is Jamie Foxx can I hear behind the yellow is this what you comedians always do a hangout with each other and I turn around its Q-tip from Tribe Called Quest and I'm like what I want when I walk in the base with Russel thanks for coming I'm like I met him once with Charlie Charlie Charlie was so great the Bud Light Comedy Tour end with John Heffron and then just randomly I was in Maui and it just Charlie's it now and I went over and sat with him and Eddie Murphy was weird was so strange how was he when he was with Charlie for a friendly man everytime I turn my head and I'm standing in the doorway like that and it's it's me standing beside Eddie and then Chris Rock Jamie Foxx and Neal Brennan and they're all trying to convince him to do stand-up again wow and I'm just there like I have nothing to add to this conversation like I'm not on Jamie's level nice but that is nice but there was like 30 years I'm like I'm pretty sure you still got it so he's got it but I know he wants to do it

all that Robin Williams amazing yeah but you got the worst movie ever Patch Adams that has to be a joke come in and do silly things to make the patients laugh to try and help their Spirits yeah but it was bad because they all died anyway yeah but they died with great spirit obviously said no I don't remember but I did a show at the Improv was quite a few years ago I was it was during the time of the podcast I did show The Improv and then afterwards I'm Shakin hands of people and taking pictures and is very slight older man with a beard heavy beard wearing a baseball hat comes up and he's like really complimentary but you obviously knows a lot about stand-up is asking me Jin's about writing and questions about you know like a certain bits like a really laughing and one of my holyfuck this is Robin Williams thanks man I really appreciate that's really cool and I just need some cool guy going to realize in the middle of the conversation this is Robin f****** Williams that that place of being that famous is f****** overwhelming that famous and known for whether you are not but you're known for being always liked on and then there's the pressure of having to be on now so you don't disappoint the illusion yeah that's got to be f****** taxing it's got to be always on and then just also you know it's just dust just up Beyond now so you don't disappoint the illusion that's got to be f****** taxing it's got to be always on and then just also you know it's just dust just the pressure of everyone recognizing you everywhere you go and

I was told everybody that I bet that's why Eddie Murphy stop doing stand-up mean it's just like his his movies are doing so good and he knew you're more insulated in that world 2.2 famous to a better way to do it yeah what do you think is going to be like what Coming to America the next night family movie night what was that movie he did with Owen Wilson like spy or something like that something spy I spy wasn't I don't know don't get the respect they deserve for some strange reason like I was that one that he did was Steve Martin I hope that the Heather Graham character was allegedly and hash was supposed to be based on Anne Heche really I heard based on her how she was dating Steve Martin and she ended up with a woman and then in Canada for a little while that's why I matter but not a problem with what happened with that he was his movies in the 80s were so f****** huge opening with a phenomenal joke of the jokes are so many of those movies were still really good they just didn't get the respect for summer who's the man and then you got another 48 hours and then you got Beverly Hills Cop 2 and 3 even Steven they were good yes it was the first time I saw sequence that's just as good as the first one wasn't there like a time. We wasn't doing films or they weren't as popular and then you get films like Bowfinger and after he did that one movie with military movie save somewhere around trying to Branch out after Golden Child it kind of fell apart a little bit o it was free or post my girl wants to party all the time that was supposed that was an issue that was song Back in the Day called Skip to My Lou yeah it was a really dope R&B track like early 80s I remember I was in New York City and Eddie Murphy had that song no I was in Boston house in Boston Eddie Murphy have that song come out on disc I can do anything what came out like 3 years ago if it's like whether it's him or Jamie Foxx or dudes I just have the Lakers really diverse set of skills they're probably just always doing something with you know about it or not they got to their they're just creative people I think what you need is the Eddie Murphy red light featuring Snoop Dogg thinking about doing stand-up again but I do not know if he's actually don't stand so I was at his house January of last year January 2019 Tiffany haddish took me to his house and it was this night that I was really not supposed to be there I wasn't invited but Tiffany like come with me and I'm like hell yeah so I went and it was then it was the incredible f****** knighted Eddie Murphy's house where I walk downstairs first person I see is Jamie Foxx is it going to be outside and then and then I turn a c Neal Brennan and then I and then I look at the bar and I see Sacha Baron Cohen and Isla Fisher sitting at the bar. Chris Rock game and walked into but the good thing is you know cuz you were, so we all know each other and then I can only met Patty once for like a split second that a fight and he knew my name then but when I walked when I walked in the bedroom Charlie and I did a tour together for maxim the Bud Light Comedy Tour end with John Heffron and then just randomly I was in Maui and it just Charlie's amount and I went over and sat with him and Eddie Murphy was weird was so strange how was he when he was with Charlie a friendly man you're funny m*********** yeah I was like oh my God yeah these are the things that whole night I honestly didn't say a f****** word to anybody I was just in shock the entire time was just like every time I turn the doorway and then Chris Rock Jamie Foxx and Neal Brennan and they're all trying to convince him to do stand-up again wow and I'm just like I have nothing to add to this conversation like I'm not on Jamie's level on Chris's level Antonio credits browser I'm like I'm just there but they didn't make me feel like what are you doing here they made me feel included so it was nice but that is nice but I'm pretty sure you still got it but it depends on how he approaches it you know what depends on how he feels rup just decide you want to do it the thing about stand-up is that you have to do in front of people you know yeah you got to go out there and doing okay but no fury to it it's not like music you can create an album with just you and your friends you can't really create a comedy set without being at a place where you going to have random people coming pay money to see you talk and that's the other problem he's got overcome is that people are going to be expecting you know maybe them expecting Delirious or Raw coming out of them right to 60 year old man 11 kids I think he does his baby was only maybe a couple months old or month old wow and then end of the night I got stuck in the basement of his house what happened well everyone was leaving and I didn't know where Tiffany went and I'm literally standing against the wall and I'm the only uninvited shouldn't be in like all the Netflix people who don't know what the bottom and I finally like as me and 1/8 of Eddie's kids were sitting at this one table and I'm just stand there like a creep like right across from them and I see Kenya Barris going upstairs now they don't leave without me so I left and went up with him and as you walk up to the door open to suggest just get the f*** out of the house Kim at Tiffany and she's kind of my ride she pick me up and I'm like I don't know where she is and then they're like to the backyard I go okay course ya put in that really exclusive gated community they're like where Denzel lives and almost know those people who those people are when you're young and then I'll send you one of them people it's I mean I can only imagine I mean there's like an exclusive A-list celebrity group of humans and I guess like when a guy like him has a party like that like those the only people that is going to be semi-normal around him he can't have that late Eddie is going to be a funny speech I'm stupid and be like right before you brought this guy you can't have any normies and I felt to normal yeah I felt like a mortal you go to the commissary fit right in around too many celebrities

microdosing at all the Truffle so it's the the top the cat mushroom cap is the illegal part we're in the process of getting a dog legalized and done the right way and it'll be available in in the Netherlands first microdosing and eventually we're hoping goes away marijuana both professionals at this I'm not had one guy f****** crying in the corner nervous about it with a friend who knows how to say one cap to something like I don't feel good the mushrooms want you like them and so the first time you do it they're going to welcome you because I feel like this is what you should be doing all your personal problems all these weird personality ticks that you got all this strange s*** the trouble you get yourself into I can do to help you and then one dimension that we live in is it's connected to neighboring Dimensions that are accessible to certain psychedelics and then once you see that you can never unsee it if it's regular life loses its seriousness it loses like 20% of its seriousness still serious so regular life but 20% of it goes away forever cuz you know that that's possible you know that these other worlds exist and that other people are just out there running through their entire life from birth to death I never experienced those worlds and it's that's that's weird because like you're running around like I run into people because people know that I've done a lot of psychedelic drugs so I'll run into people that do and then they've done it too and they look at you and they'll talk to you like a man you know I did this because you like a body might do that to me the other day you gave me the courage to try this psychedelic truck and I was like Advanced I would imagine when this guy's up when everybody does it what you get when they're describing it is just sort of like trying to use words to describe something where there's no references it's not the words don't work like you could kind of tell Anoka County go yeah, I kind of see that cuz I've done it but if I if I hadn't done it there's no way I've known I've nothing exist in the human body and they believe that it it comes out in your dreams they believe that when you're dreaming your body is releasing some of that stuff they don't they don't totally understand it right it's one of those weird things the really only found out that mammals created in the pineal gland within the last few years the Cottonwood Research Foundation which is connected to Rick Strassman who wrote that book DMT The Spirit Molecule here and a bunch of a FDA-approved they believe the only FDA-approved test on DMT where they shot it into people in a clinical setting really yeah like a fiend yeah like a fiend looks like a glass bowl connected to like a tube and you like the bottom of the bowl the DMT sits inside the what is the looks like a white powder I'll take a white almost yellowish white powder depending on which one you take did the five methoxy DMT is white and then the other stuff was more like white with a little bit of yellow to it and you take it taste like burnt plastic taste terrible and you take a big deep breath do you want to take like three big inhales first time I did it only took one and I just got to the door I got like to the door of the DMT Dimension I was like what is that is weird was really weird but I didn't even know what weird was cuz it's like 20 minutes later I did a second one in the second one I took way more I took like three big hits and then it was almost like you're in a slingshot for catapult it was like you could feel the tension like through these colors and lights into what felt like some new places what is your physical doing during all of this laying there laying there no one time recently died a couple years ago I open my eyes it was very strange so I can almost see reality resolve real pixelated and was like I was seeing life through like dirty Saran Wrap or something it was all very When I close my eyes back and I went into the experience of the Psychedelic realm is more Vivid than regular life which is real strange cuz it doesn't feel like you're on a drug cuz you're still you that's another part of it doesn't change your like when you're drunk it changes the way you think but I think different this is not that this is like you think the same way but you're being confronted with something that's insanely alien just alien everything that you know to be true and then there's all these things around you but seem to be alive and they seem to be talking to you and communicating the last time I did it was a bunch of jokers they were giving me the finger like Jesters gestures with like you know they have little bell they were all like shaking and give me the finger in like spinning around like the thing that I got from it was like oh I take myself too seriously I need to be mocked and they were my they were mocking me a lot of relaxed and then there they like pointing at me like that you got it cuz you know you can get lost you can take yourself seriously and you want others to take you to like what is the grossest kind of man like the kind of man who wants everyone to tremble when he walks into a room with rose petals thrown at his feet he wants everyone to call him sir and be uncomfortable everyone right so I think that it was like letting me know like a b**** you got a little Latin you need to get that out of your system especially is a person whose professional mocker we are we aren't stand-up modders how long does it last for 15 minutes I don't know how exactly we're having tryouts Ayahuasca different it is and no as it lasts longer because it's orally take to see that's that's probably more similar and you can get there on Ayahuasca and DMT the same thing it's dimethyltryptamine it's just when you're taking it with Ayahuasca your body is processing it orally and you take it with something called an MAO inhibitor MAOI inhibitor MAOI oxidase it's produced by your gut and it processes DMT naturally that exist in plants so I just a lot of plants that have DMT in it and if you just like if you were eating grass like some sore like phalaris grass or someplace that's really rich and DMT so if you were to get high off you would get high but monoamine oxidase it's produced by your gut it breaks that stuff down so it's not orally active Saudi if you ate if you took some DMT do you Freebase and just ate it wouldn't do anything to you that would break it down but then if you took it with an MAO inhibitor preferably the kind of plant-based MAO inhibitors they use in Ayahuasca because they know like those MAO inhibitors that people take like sometimes people take them in as a medication those can be dangerous there they're much more much more potent and there is also too weird side of her people taking pharmaceutical MAO inhibitors and then they take the mushrooms or something else with him in a really can f*** them up like real bad really can f*** them up like real bad drug used to do it all kinds of wacky s*** to your brain that your brain is probably not really desire redlining your brain your brain may stay together or you might go f****** Shine On You Crazy Diamond take

according to its it's almost like some people would think of it as a frivolous activity in our glorious results of a misspent youth if you know how to help absolutely skateboard when I first started foundation for public skateparks started a petition fundraising or just raising awareness that they need to park we started give them the roadmap to do that and funding to do it that's designed help and things like that so it's been great we've we've helped to fund over 900 skateparks now all 50 states giving away almost 10 million dollars incredible there was a point where I was we're trying to get funding and in trying weariness and you know I'm I'm doing I'm doing visits to Children's Cancer Ward and stuff like that and it's some point I was like I'm trying to build skateparks and I remember this conversation at very vividly actually with Lance Armstrong when in this is when he was the face of cancer research you know what I mean like say what you will about his career but he did so much for cancer research and I'm visiting children spit up with Lance Armstrong and Lance Archer walks into a Cancer Ward back then like the Seas part you know I mean it was just like this having lunch with him that day and I was like it's so weird to be with you you're you're doing so much for cancer and cancer victims and I'm just trying to build playgrounds yeah like concrete waves and he said he said look the the the number one the cancer number number to Casa cancer in the u.s. is obesity and by building of skateparks you are preventing cancer you're preventing obesity and that was heavy for me that is happening and they really gave me a lot of inspiration motivation City I mean when I was a kid like I felt like an outcast I felt like like I didn't belong in in sports I didn't belong in my school and when I went to the skatepark and there was just a band of Misfits listening to punk music and look in a weird hairdos from all walks of life I was like this is it as my crew and I want the same sense of community for being billed training grounds for Olympians we're just trying to place for them to feel like they belong and feel like their Community actually cares about them it is a loved Pursuit I mean it is even though it's had these weird views like there are people that have had weird views about it you think about how many people love it and how it requires this sort of a place like what you're creating right really do it right and now it is it's way different now that sort of give on skating or the attitude towards getting is that parents are doing with their kids like you know a little girls are encouraged to try it and that just wasn't the case when I was a kid like Bruce because of you in a lot of ways people like you're you're too focused on the hairdos in the music and stuff you got to really look at what it provides someone's mint yeah but that's always been the case with things that kids do that their parents didn't do like how many parents told their kids to stop playing video games and now kids are literally making millions of dollars I think video games and parents have to kind of make this adjustment like okay either they're encouraging other kids skating or they're actually skating with them that's awesome that's kind of make you feel good impact on the thing that you love yeah I'm in the coolest part for me is that I still get to participate and I get to Bear witness to all this

it's interesting to me that that's the thing that we look forward to the most of the average person if he thinks about they think about space they think about intelligent life that is far more interesting to them then the fact that there is black holes out there that are planets Stars into its Event Horizon of density that we can't even really begin to imagine with our own little brain yeah yeah and and the fact that all this a rose without a guiding intelligence black holes and there are active Galactic nuclei and there are black holes slamming into each other credit and gravitational waves that we can actually detect I mean it is a wonderfully Rich reality that we are fortunate to be part of experience much pushback or much conflict from religious people who don't like the fact that you describe things in that way they didn't need an intelligent for you and tells your creator to to us Disney question because the biological community people like Richard Dawkins and the like I think have really born the brunt of the religious pushed back because they're dealing directly with phenomena of life and that's the precious commodity that somehow we want to be sacred and therefore a religious sensibility will push back on a just being the mine was laws of physics and evolution yielding real life on planet Earth they haven't just hard on the quantum physicists in the cosmologists as they have on the biologist but I have that conversations many of them are are are are respectful as opposed to antagonistic where the view is that I am wrongheaded that I am missing the point and some of these religious folks are fantastically accomplished scientists that's weird yeah I know I went to a gathering I think I can talk about now it's closed or gathering meant to describe you don't get to do but if you ever try them really open myself up and dumb and I thought it was it was Sonic with cold signed his spiritual Quest and it was a bunch of scientists that were being brought together and I thought it was going to be an interesting but ultimately OneNote meeting I thought everybody's going to basic say the same thing there could be a god there's no evidence for God we got the laws of physics and we're going to just press forward under the assumption that physics is all there is until the clouds part and God reveals him or herself or it's out to wash in at that point we may change your tune it was not one note I was the only person who had that perspective in the room everybody else was coming at religion from a very different way of thinking about the world impact there's one Nobel Laureate in the room who got up and sang Psalms as part of his presentation and I was sitting there and I was like what is happening here this is so unexpected to me I know it really meant was so close-minded into the varieties of religious engagement that happen in the world and it opened my eyes and is one Noble Lord in particular I did say to him at the end that's when you look at me when you hear my view what do you think any kind of put his arm around me and it won't kill her way and said you know you're you're real smart guy and you don't understand the true reality and I think ultimately you will cuz you're open-minded and you're on I hope your journey will finally take it to the place where I have been 4 for many years that was so unexpected that does Nobel Laureate why respected for his his concrete mathematical experiment to work saw the world differently spectrum of belief arrange the meeting to have a spectrum of perspective in does not something that was randomly designed and it just so happened but it was an eye-opener and I am from that I went to read you know William James book of varieties of religious experience if not maybe just a book that William James great psychologists wrote In 1902 and it was based on a series of lectures I think he gave in Scotland and it is the most heartfelt and rational approach to religion and son said I think it's ever been written and yet most people don't know much about it because what he does is he goes through any documents through his own research and through Reading biographies and interviewing individuals the vastly different ways that people think about religion and why they think about religion of value that religion has in their lives and an end when you read that book it doesn't convert me I haven't changed my views on whether or not they is a God but it has changed my views on the value of a religious sensibility the role that it plays in people's lives now what can be you know you talk to people like Sam Harrison and you know it's a destructive force in the world and it has been a destructive force in some ways but that's not the full story for story is that for some individuals they give the connection to a historical lineage that's deeply valued for some individuals life in a larger setting that allows them to be in the world in a more productive way so their whole range of roles that religious engagement can play the problem is when you start to pit against scientific Insight then you run into trouble what religion was never developed to give us factual information about the world religion will never give us the electron Magnetic Moment to 9 decimal places that's the purview of scientific investigation as you can keep these rate in your mind there's a definite and Powerful role for a religious sensibility in the world I feel like it gives people in a lot of ways of scaffolding for ethics and morality and allows them some alleviation of anxiety feeling of purpose but like you said as long as it's not conflicting with rigid scientific reality I like right scientific provable scientific reality yeah do you know that his his Mo in the world is very anti-religious I I think you would agree with me on that I don't want to put words into his mouth but I did a event with him in New York The Beacon Theater the year ago or something like that and it was very interesting because in a one-on-one conversation his views were very similar to mine public we don't agree with but I was saying to him there are times I go around the world and I will do things that are utterly irrational I'll knock on wood for good luck I'll speak to my dead father I know that he's not really there I'll pray to God on occasion if I think that I could use that backup not because I think there's some bearded individual in the sky it's just a behavioral tendency that I find to be comforting and useful and I said that to Richard and he said I totally get it I was like what you suck at telling I said he's in fact he said I don't like to sleep in a house that has a reputation as being haunted being human being that that is what it means to be human you will engage in the world in ways that are not necessarily strictly adhering to some rational perspective of how the scientific World operates I would love to see Richard Dawkins outside of A Haunted House going in there the world are many ways to live life and their many ways to come to terms with our own impermanence and it's not as though something is right or something is wrong it's a question of is it useful to you and I think that we have to be very open-minded in the kinds of behaviors that that we allowed to happen in the world you know not even wrong with it it's naughty stuff you know but if some of those individuals who go their find allows them to live in the world in a more productive way alleviate anxiety feeling like they're on a spiritual Quest so be it yeah that's the thing that's really mean it's hard for people to understand if you're not in that space that headspace at their you don't need this structure but for some people even Scientology or something along those lines it seems loopy on paper can provide them with legitimate structure and end benefit their lives tangible ways they could describe to you yeah exactly am I feeling is that if there was a I don't know the trivia case maybe some biologists will push back on this but if there was a a race of for want of a better word you know Vulcan like individuals who approached the world in a completely rational manner evaluating the data figuring out the most sensible course of action competing against a crazy group of individuals like us will come up wild fictional ideas gods in the heavens you know demons haunting the world I think it's the latter group that ultimately would Triumph because would that kind of freedom of thought you get novelty you get Ingenuity you get creativity and so I feel as though this is part and parcel of who we are and why we have survived and to sort of come at the world with a scientific Club it's meant to smash away anything that disagrees with the scientific worldview is an unfortunate way of of looking at the world yeah there's something about creativity that it doesn't necessarily have to abide by any laws of logic and it could still be beneficial by so stunning when somebody comes up with some where did that come from income from a rational approach to working out no Brahms 3rd Symphony it emerged from the churning emotions of an individual who happens to be made up of trillions of particles Guided by physical law responding to the environment which is impinging his senses with an incredible array of influences and threw that whirl emerges the spectacular piece of music that's breathtaking turn on the people and then causes different thoughts and their mind and then that causes intern another branch of creativity another another new line of thinking that they might have ever never pursued but yes and that's me establish is that the notion that language is the only way that we can know about the world on Pitkin Stein had this perspective know the limits of my language limits of my world that seems to me other leave wrong I mean the Xperia of Music where the experience of cogitating about the world but not trying to Overlay a narrative upon it just feeling your way into reality reveals things about the world that I think are are Beyond Linguistics you can talk religion with a really intelligent person is objective who has a belief it's it's such an interesting subject because it's it requires suspension of disbelief in order to absorb some of the stories but there is clearly a history behind this of thousands of years of translations and trying to get to the what did they mean when they wrote this down and how much did they know and what were they trying to do with it just trying to get everybody to come down and stay in line right or where they trying to find some means of gluing the group together by a sheriff other folks who basically say that there are qualities of the human that naturally leave it open to a religious sensibility since we have agency detection systems in our brain where we look around the world and we tend to assign agency to things that happen that's useful right because you know if you mistake a windblown branch for a Jaguar yeah it's fine you thought of Jaguar but there's a branch but if it were Birds happens you think it would be a jaguar how you do that so when the wind blows we tend to think there's a mind up there when the river gurgles we tend to think that there's a mind in there and this is sort of the seed for the kinds of perspectives that you'll find many of the world's religions so there's there's natural course of events that can lead to a arising of the institution or at least the ideas behind the institution of religion and for students that have never encountered that idea or it can really shake things up and I think Anna in a very viable way you know so I think you're absolutely right having a conversation with somebody who has a religious perspective is deeply interested to understand where that mine came to the place that it got to ever my personal sensibility I'll give you you know I just give you one little anecdote my dad died I was 23 years old and unexpectedly sitting home or I was at Harvard at the time I was visiting from Cambridge and we had a nice weekend by the time I got back to Cambridge on the bus my mom called me said dad's dead it was so shocking it was like so sudden it was so complete and remember I went back home and my dad was not a religious man but we knew that he would want to have a religious ceremony and and we and we did it and we had you know a minion of Jews coming to the house to recite the kaddish prayer cuz we weren't religious we didn't know what we're doing you know and I no idea what these men were saying but it was deeply comforting it's like I didn't want to know what they were saying to me was just a collection of ancient sounds but the sounds connected me across the generations to a culture that have an extended back 5,000 years and in a moment of Crisis that was a very comforting and useful connection to have yeah that that that is where I find people get the most out religion in in the fact that it brings communities together and this sort of cohesive ritual everybody acts together and everybody you feel like there's completion to it yeah like you you're putting someone you know into perspective and you're doing so with this religious ceremony groups of people get together and engage in a ritual Behavior something magical happens you know I've spoken to my psychologist like Steve Pinker is a wonderful thinker is skeptical that this kind of ritual behavior Can yield the kind of cohesive bonding that some people suggest that it does but you know you probably have it I have it on occasion engaged in these ritual behaviors no Mass drumming and movement find transported to a place where you are now part of a collective and you feel yourself melting into the group and you are one and if you've never had that experience I think it's something that you should have because I think it's a vital part of our heritage it is part of how we got to be who we are the other something about group acceptance and a group of people acting and doing something together that does create is very strained Bond yeah it doesn't necessarily exist amongst it's a weird bond is a very weird Bond because it has nothing to do with the individuals I don't do with the personality of Jim or Mary it's it's irrelevant that point it's somehow joining you together into this mass of humanity that's all engaged in the same practice and somehow you feel as though your identity melts into the larger whole I don't know why it happened so it's negative aspects to that sort of thing you ever been in a situation where chaotic and you really had this feeling like anything can happen if you have a moment I've seen it happen I've never been part of it but I weird but I haven't started doing in the air yeah I have an analogous one which is annoying brother is a Hari Krishna you know and so you know he is 13 years older than me and and left College in the 60s which was a tumultuous time in and went to Europe and ultimately joined into what many people think of as some kind of cultish activity and so but but he's not a cult thinker he's an original thinker he's a brilliant thinker and yet within this group mentality you can imagine a certain kind of groupthink can take over these people imagine that this happened so yes it is positive aspects and they can have negative aspects but in the end I think there is a long lineage in which those of our forebears who survived were the ones who could join together into this more is more powerful groups and that way we're able to triumph over other groups you know the ancestral environment you know there are there's different readings of the archaeological record whether it was a dangerous place in the hunter-gatherer pastoris or the Placid Place but one reading says it was a very dangerous place and therefore those groups that survived we're the ones were able to establish this kind of allegiance to the whole Bond if your ball believing in the Supernatural entity that's a powerful in-principle powerful glue I mean I don't want to say an arrogance in some academics maybe it's not the right word but this being too quick to dismiss any positive benefit at all about religion yes it's the knee-jerk reaction Among Us a certain group of academics and it feels deeply unfortunate to made almost feels like a religion of its own sort when it's just the response as opposed to a careful thoughtful heartfelt analysis of the situation I frankly wish that more people would read William James his book cuz I do think that it's the kind of cuz here's a psycho scientist write a deeply thoughtful scientist who knows how to analyze data knows how to rationally engage with a who was Plumbing the depths of religion in a very very meaningful and sensitive way you know by the end of these lectures though I think is election number 20 or something he describes religion as this as as something that helps the Journey tour the Doterra and the beauty of phenomenal he describes it as the the voice of the Thunder the gentleness of the Summer Rain he described it in terms of the Sublimity of the stars in this kind of transcendent approached religious experience I think Brees it out of the academic guys that is often thrown upon it which is something that is contravening everything we know about the world it's causing people to think in ways that are irrational I mean this whole Trope that you hear it's not that there isn't some truth to that but it's an incomplete truth and if you're willing to approach religion in a way where you discard the pieces that offend you throw away the parts that you think are other or not tents only keep those aspects that are useful to you in your life then there is a place for it I think there are lots of problems a lot of people they're not willing to do that this need for suspension of disbelief troubles him so much that they feel like fools if they buy into something right and we're also dealing with all religions except the ones that are super questionable like Scientology or Mormonism right that are very old and did the idea of maybe it would be if we came up with something that we could all agree on in 2020 right maybe it would be wonderful if we have something at that maybe has science in it maybe something that has are a genuine understanding of how human beings react and what would the benefits of community yeah and having these in environments were loving conscious people communicate with each other in a very positive way that this could be a new form of this thing that we seem to desire so greatly great and I have to have make this point in in in in the book because the point that I make there is that to truly engage with the world you have to use a variety of stories were fundamentally storytellers that's what human beings are now there's the reduction of story that physicists are well-equipped to talk about with particles and laws of physics on top of that you've got the chemist or the complex molecules got the biologist story that begins to talk about cells in life you got the psychological story real story that brings in mind and Consciousness and within that you didn't have all of the activities that conscious beings undertake which includes religion and includes telling other kinds of stories and include creative expression you need them all and to sort of say that the scientific account is the only account by which you're ever going to gain true qualities of the world has a very in my view limited description of what truth is there is objective truth in the world that we can measure that we can describe the equation so forth but there's also internal true spiritual true that you get to buy self-examination it's real in the sense that you are understanding how you respond to the world and that is something which is deeply personal but utterly real and whether it's through psychedelics whether to Ayahuasca weather through a spiritual journey whether it's the religion regardless all of it adds color to the story of what it means to be a human being respond to the world and that is something which is deeply personal but utterly real and whether it's through psychedelics whether to Ayahuasca weather through a spiritual journey whether it's the religion regardless all of it adds color to the story of what it means to be a human being

ovarian same time people overreact though it's because it's not the same for everybody like I have a friend who got covid-19 37 he was clear of it in three days and three days he felt like s*** he couldn't smell it couldn't taste three days later he was on z-pack and something else and just stayed home and got vitamin IVs everyday and then 3 Days Later he's going on 25 mile bike ride but I want to see what happens I'm not saying anything as a mask yeah I want to see if it makes him feel like s*** Pecos on the bike ride or feels great I was talking to DL cuz you know he are you watching him just slump into unconsciousness on stage and whoever that guy is that caught him that guy's a f****** hero it's as a road manager I think his Road managers a f****** hero cuz if DL fell he would have smashed his head on that stage and you got real problems then cuz he was just sitting there and he's slurring his words and the audiences like what how is a f****** great guy is a great a great guy. Open Formula 23 years ago he's smart as f*** he's a really smart guy but a really good guy really good guy really honest and I think a lot of the and he puts down and he's volume unfortunately there goes there goes f****** are up cuz that guy was there little little bit but there was a stroke cuz sometimes that happens people this is like we have everything okay and everything like that right to control the the real scary thing was the slurring of the words

one of my favorite papers he did was fat body that's what it turns out Peter has a friend and Richard Baldwin and you should pull Richard Baldwin up Richard Baldwin is a real professional bodybuilder he was like what was it mr. Olympia 1978 or something right he's also history Professor so jacked even 70-something he's jacked and so he said we could use his identity Yeah Tim is in the 70s in the black T-shirt where it's like he's 71 years old and it it's it's just the one the one doing the most muscular pose right there bam he's still like that and Jesus Christ so he let us use his identity that that's older he still jacked isn't it so we're like we got a right bodybuilding theme papers cuz we have a bodybuilder and so we claim that his is there is the black one is related images down there is where is in the black T-shirt actually Photoshop to copy that that specific image of put fat bodybuilder on the T-shirt I used to have that picture that's him like when he was letting us use his identity yes we got this paper fat bodybuilding saying that bodybuilders are abnormally large fat people are abnormally large muscle and fat or just two types of tissue and it's only fatphobic science that distinguishes their worth and if a public society that says one means more than the other so we even have lines like you know you have to build a political there's some quote the paper and so we said that they should be in fact that professional bodybuilding is a sport needs to add another category they're four categories for each men and women little heat in an apparently something like bikini and I don't know what they are or what they are building where people of any body shape and size can come in and they can't be competitive because that would be fat shaming and so it has to be political display rooted in Judith Butler's politics of parity which we got that idea from reading an actual fat scholar maybe the leading fat scholar Charlotte Cooper and Charlotte Cooper is just like totally not job activist in the UK but they hate the Olympics as you might imagine it's that maximal a fat fat phobic environments Sumo in the Olympics I think it is 2012 Games summer games and what they did is they held in a park like fatty lympics is what they literally called it they literally call it that and it was like them playing dizzy bat and like yelling about and holding a protest signs about how the Olympics sucks and so we're like what the hell is this and so then we decided to write this fat bodybuilding paper based off of the idea of politics of parody of like making a joke out of the things that we're going to make a joke at a bodybuilding with the competitors can wear the fat that's their word not ours of their choice which is clothing design for fat people so it's really hard it's really hard to talk about explained to criticize that the fat study stuff without like it's just so Preposterous how do you walk the line of like tipping them off like as it seems like I mean seriously so I'll give you an example with that exact paper right at the end Pete you know is a big sci-fi guy who's on the Star Trek so we called The Last Action was fat bodybuilding the final frontier for fat they went berserk about this there like you cannot call it that for two reasons you can't use the word flying all because it would imply there's an end to Fat activism which can never end and you can't use the word frontier because it reminds you of genocides the frontier of the American West that's it said it evokes imagery of the American women this is literally commonplace I mean it's it's so hard not to laugh as what I mean like so we talked about health at every size do you know who made up Health at every size Linda bacon that's her name she's not real play we wait we had to learn about scissors this thing in probability theory is named after mathematicians whose last name is Weiner and so it's actually called the wiener measure and so we had this Chinese teacher he was talking with a wiener measure and we're all laughing and he had no idea why we're laughing cuz his English wasn't

prognosis is that it will break itself break it so it will just the backlash to it which can be reasonable and liberal people are going to wake up and then they're going to have Peak woke and they're not going to have more woke and it will chew itself up from the inside with these fights between is here's an example of a flight 1619 project from The New York Times you know all about slavery slavery has everything to do the United States in regard from the beginning and still and then what are they doing now right so there's a huge intense fight between the black population in the Indigenous population for most racially oppressed and they both have a pretty good claim on it right so that genocide thing was pretty pretty big and then slavery was pretty big and it's complicated so they're going to fill their fighting for status so you had the indigenous side of that assert that black people in North America are Settlers of which is a problem and then you've had nikole hannah-jones try to point out that lots of Native Americans held black slaves which so they were slave owners which is a problem so they're fighting over that in fighting for status for the ultimate victim status and then they've got like that trans things coming I saw a video of some black women the other day yelling about what is this black power fist on the trans flag about that's not you know that's not what this black people that black Trans lives matter rally right Rises like you might be the only people they can get away with this right now this is no one else can hop in on that but black Trans lives matter and there was like hundreds of thousands of people because everybody felt like you had to just keep keep protesting yeah exactly say anything like that particularly if they get so much mass of pushback from the people that their you know the teaching right I mean the number of people right now that are saying they want deferrals partly because of the Cove in online classes they don't want to go back to college and this stuff blowing out and every College presidents like we're going to be a full and the other thing imagine you run a business business so all of a sudden you know this event happens everybody supposed to have their statement there's tons of social pressure to make your statement if you don't make a statement compelled you know say all your business didn't say something a blacklivesmatter so you have to say something one way or the other so everybody's making saving everybody's trying to do the thing and they don't know what to do so I hear from a lot of people that you mail me about the other job whether they talk to the boss and the boss is like what we have to do something and there's this you know there's this anti-racism program so we have to do something and that's the thing and we'll just take it out in a lot of people are successfully pushing back on that and saying look there are other ways we can actually do other diversity programs in this one and when they realize that you know a lot of bosses are saying maybe we should think a little harder about this statement of policy of your company that says something like that you believe that all white people are complicit in racism or are racist and you've now called all your white employees racist that's not good that's probably discriminatory my point is that a lot of people are going to try but I think that the courts or even deciding towards being more woke because it's society's cultural shift some yes some yes and some know and that's there's a point to that but on the other hand for example if you look at the title 9 cases where those mostly boys it wasn't always boys got to lay Railroad in kangaroo courts they got accused of sexual misconduct the university ends up expelling them or whatever near the girl with the mattress or whatever happened and then they're suing in civil court and they're almost all winning is that it did that kid the mattress boy did he Sue I don't know if he did specifically or not but I do know that there a number of civil suits that lady was bringing her mattress on the stage when she accepted her her diploma I mean it's performance art yeah it's just performance art it's it's really like we can't run the world and performance art though yeah what's really strange to is that if you accuse someone of something and it turns out that not be true you don't really get in trouble for that that that's thing that's a real problem at the things it cuz there's no actual precautions for being deceptive and ruining someone's Wi-Fi I have a friend who was accused of sexual assault by woman it was proven that he didn't do it then nothing ever happened to her that's that's made some stuff up about him and so we got laws against revenge p*** right accusing of being racist and it blows up their lives like there may have to be legislation built around that so the question becomes will the political will be there at depends on the people and it depends on the politicians I know you're lovely stay here California just the state legislators voted to take the anti-discrimination language out of the State Constitution which I think is a bold move I think do people get to decide on that in the end and maybe November but what is the anti-discrimination law I'm going to pull that one up like article 31 or something like that it is unbelievable that they voted to to put this up to be pulled out of the Constitution what was there it's like you can't discriminate or favor by race gender sex sexual orientation so on and so forth because Equity requires discrimination if you listen to this guy that's blasting all over even candy that how to be anti-racist sentence in the book where he says that you have to evaluate everything according to whether it has racist rant erases outcomes so if you have discrimination policy it says you cannot discriminate and then that makes it so you don't have Equity then that's actually a racist policy so they're actually Advocate Equity requires affirmative action and reparations Aladdin possibly discrimination against if they aren't cheating what they're trying to do is this clear that this is their motivations is I mean they didn't lie about it they just say it all the time if it's if you don't have equal outcomes than the system must be I mean conceal this is like putting like you know wallpaper over a hole in your wall if the system has an equal outcomes it must be discrimination so you're just going to going to change the policies to make up for it and that I mean to say it explicitly they're actually out there's a lawsuit at least one lawsuit won in New York City where they were openly discriminating against Asian students like they were they were discriminating against Asians to make it cuz they're you know USA California does this I don't know what happens because it's in violation of the federal laws so I mean it's directly against the title 7 of pushing for that I mean all of these kind of Mufflers that are getting for it but then again as you stay amongst themselves it goes it's like there's no map of the territory there's no like if we do this then you know what we're going to have this kind of success in the future because you know will will discriminate to the point we will reach some sort of homeostasis I mean equality no map of the territory there's no like if we do this then you know what we're going to have this kind of success in the future because you know will we will discriminate to the point we will reach some sort of homeostasis I mean equality

that's one of the problems with some ideas that promote are quotes feminism is that they treat women as if they they can't see things the way that men do so they need extra attention extra help or extra assistance my favorite one with would like that kind of like navel-gazing critical approach solo that said one of my favorite patterns is is a thing happens to everybody and then feminists think it's oppression against women feminists playing patriarchy so it's like you know people interrupt it is like people interrupt women in so that's patriarchy so you doing in your profile your last October we're doing some talks and I was actually explain one video I did where I didn't even realize it was manspreading like out of control and he was like embarrassingly bad I looked at it the first ones to live video very I was actually distractedly mindful not to manspread and said I was telling the story to the crowd and a man spread to demonstrate what I meant by men's birthday just did it again and somebody snapped a picture of it while I was doing it and sent it to me and I'm like that's my profile picture some like you know like a jacket and it's high and manspreading like laughing or whatever I don't know if I did or not that men are natural the way they're their legs sit in their hips it's natural for the leg play out where is with women their hips are built differently that's probably true well can you find that out we also have I don't know which how you would Google that yeah but I know I could do I'm totally with you I think it's unnatural I think it makes sense I actually have really large legs and so it's actually very difficult for me to squeeze my legs here goes the overall width of the pelvis is relatively greater and females in the angle of the femoral neck is more acute that's right these factors could play a role in making a position of sitting with the nice clothes together less comfortable in men good posture in sitting would be the avoidance of testicular compression from the thigh muscles the pelvic rotation goes some way to improve compression in both fx20 the way they say that way I have to say testicular Chase on my thighs so there's a problem behind Chuck Norris drop-crotch jeans that he had us when he uses kicks that's what boxer briefs were invented for I can't wear regular shorts like if I just wear shorts and boxer briefs it'll chew my legs up that's right I workout kills me that problem they didn't design clothing with that was in mind start my workout kills me and large ladies have that issue to write overweight studies would say that that is a problem of body Blueprinting and that it's actually a sign that fat public Society hasn't designed all clothing around that problem they didn't design clothing with that was in mind

my point so I was sent a video I'm going to skip track student video cuz I want to make a point that we live in a we live in a mediated world now write a mediated epistemology is what I would call it then the media itself social media of so all of us participating are able to spend narratives around like a 30 second video so the other day this guy sends me a video on Twitter and I watch it some black guy with a microphone in the middle radio studio and he's like going east you know these white pill I can take it no more like yelling he's like going to rise up you know when it's obvious what you're watching like man that's like these riots are out of control and so I wanted to share it wasn't me on Twitter and I couldn't figure out how so I looked it up on YouTube and so I had like a 40-second cliff sent to me I'm like you know about this Riot and I wanted to show it to somebody and so I go and I find it on YouTube and I watch it and it's the same thing 40 seconds and it ends but the video that I watched several minutes and then the next guy says is this President is divisive this President is the problem it's so divisive because all the division and it's like holyshit exactly talk about Trump and I kept watching and at the end and so it depends on which part of that clip you see the story changes completely I watch the 40 seconds and I was like holy s*** this is a riot and then oh my God it's about Trump railing about Obama several years ago and the video was sent to me because it was going crazy with the implication that was about the riots but and it was about Obama that's crazy so this is like the deal right what we're seeing isn't always the whole story and there's live in this clip culture now which is a real problem Brighton we piece together the story We Believe based on you know our prior assumptions about it like the Covington case exactly where the kid was just standing there in the Native American drum and he was smiling Atkins Phase Cindy got a photo of it and it would really looks like this kid's a prick and then he's taunting these Native Americans rise peacefully bang on their drums as exactly right so we live in the situation now where they are and you said you know everything upload their story of what they wanted have to be true into that clip and it becomes like it's like we're already talking about religion is like a miracle like you know back in 2003 thousand years ago you know some something weird happened and then you know people one person tells another and another and another and it's like an angel came down from the sky and touched but partially informative it's almost like you know everybody's scared the deepfake is coming where they can basically put your face on whatever pornstar saying some horrible thing that you never said or whatever it's because you can cut that clip just right and then all of a sudden it means one thing if you cut it just another way it means something exactly the opposite or totally different and different groups that want to push a narrative which is like everybody latches onto it and runs with it and this of course causes depolarization so that same clip I saw I don't know that would be a good example but you know you could take it as the riots and you know that that's like I sick of the riot and so the right Wings all over it like look at this guy you know and then boom this present so divisive and now it's the left store and you cut it right there and then I seen and all of a sudden and then the whole thing is like an hour so what really what was really the whole got the whole point and so we're getting away from being able to understand because you know our attention spans are so short you live in Twitter it's like attention span of a goldfish when you can't pay attention to anything or marinating and dopamine all the time brain doesn't work right so you don't time to like Parks anything together you see this thing you're pissed off by itself is just I think it's detrimental to people's mental health Big Time communicating through these small little sentences and start and end little paragraphs of 280 words around the idea that is that we're going to take a thing apart make it look absurd or going to show it show it in particular light and then you can pull it apart into it if you don't really trust its validity anymore and that's it specifically its purpose is to make it so you don't trust the validity of the thing anymore in so anyting you put on Twitter once you get an account of a certain size at least anything like I have an account and or somebody's going to take it out of context or they're going to tell you what they thought you mean and now that's the thing you mean earlier to screenshot and it's going to go around and look like it's like I mean you're famous enough for it's obviously happens to all the time I'm sure it's like they take something that you say you don't know podcast Twitter or shows or whatever and they clip it up and then there's like you know who Joe Rogan is but then there's like this new Joe Rogan that they created that's out in the universe right so they take you apart they deconstruct you Joe Rogan and your real intentions and your real meaning and they put it out in the world and there's this new Joe Rogan that this horrible thing or that does new Joe Rogan maybe that's a saint people to like if you have an issue with some of the things that I say guess what I have an issue with some things I said you were here with me when I say things and you disagreed I'd listen your point I'm not an idealist or an ideologue when it comes to read to anything that I right so we need to be able to talk about it right to say a thing and then I'm like they can't talk but no they can't have to tweet about it so we could because they're not in the room and they don't have your attention Friday then they get angry and that's part of the problem podcast as well as like right right now you and I are having a conversation but millions of people are listening to this conversation or listen to this conversation there's a lot of them that wish they could chime in angry and they put some stuff on Twitter I have the motivation I understand the thought process behind it I really do but I personally can engage because it's just too unhealthy

there's like times have changed you can put your mad at you for something you did when you were little witches funny that's one of the things that's going on now as people retroactively getting canceled for things in their kids that's ridiculous I mean it's like everything's a permanent stain on there's no growth you can't become a better person you can't like angle side of it which is like us moral Purity thing that's going bonkers or we can talk about it in terms of the the idea is the theory that's fueling this and that's all about that has this idea that that comes from French philosophy that that words and ideas and thoughts and patterns have traces that don't ever really go away and so if something you know used to be associated with something bad and we still use the word or even if you pretend that it was the case and you still use the word then that carry this negative tree the moral panic in the psychology side of it's fueled by this kind of like stupid idea that words always have to mean kind of what they meant in the first place or conveniently actually aware of this concept Flex like they kind of go to church and maybe they go to confession sometimes and they don't really do they do it but they don't really do it and then you have like the hardcore psychiatr friend in high school that I took notes at church right I'm like want to feel like a good person so you've got like the woke academics like the seriously the woke people that are teaching it to kids yeah that really teach it as like critical theory like critical race theory is right yeah those the ones that are probably aware of all the nonsense they're making the nonsense I think they pick some of it up from culture you know from activist groups or whatever but then they were fine and turn it into something and you know it's really weird feeling to it like you get the impression that this like the wrestling with their inner demons riding it down like it like that this book now white fragility right Robin D'Angelo's book White fragility is destroyed yeah that's right I walk up and then see there's two parties and where to park and there's two groups of people one of them's all black and one of them's not and I had this moment of panic that I might have to be in the all-black group Miss like lady what's going on you know and then it's like all white people are racist is like her conclusion from this and it's like maybe it's you she was going to have to party at the park with black people because of that and therefore all white people are racist something is going on right so I'm thinking I thought this world a number of years is that a lot of this stuff for you get these like woke activists doing their blogs are these Scholars writing this stuff down is that they're looking at their own lives so you have these people that are like they're walking down the street you know maybe whatever they walk into the hotel they walk to the restaurant in there like that sell black guy and then it's like I'm not supposed to notice that and then they start having like this thing in their head and then they go right in angry blog the whole idea that everybody wants have sex with their mothers and Western psychology is all how you resolve that problem and it's like maybe you just wanted to have sex with your mother Sigmund Freud you know and then now it's everybody's a racist is is kind of the vibe of the new thing like this weird religious kind of happened around it that's really the thing that gets me is how similar this is too religious or religion religious ideology it is but also indoctrination like religious cults how they reduction people in one of my friends Kurt Metzger really funny guy who was a Jehovah's Witness when he's younger and so he's really really really sensitive to this. I was like I know where this is going in that I got when I was in the Jehovah's Witnesses Veer from the course that's right right so every single single one of these things set you up so for example for example these kind of like setups right is if it historically in the book I talked about historically another black feminist came along and feminism is to White feminism isn't paying attention to Black feminist issues black women's issues about their ability and then three years later the lady writes a paper saying oh you're just sticking black things in and it's faking your tokenizing and you're fetishizing it and it's like so you can't do it right there inside that that is called the indoctrination yeah so it's like you and I could be you no talk about something like this and you could say something like you think it's a little bit racist and then the next step is like what are you going to say you're going to say yes or no if you said yes and now you've owned it right now you're like racist and Sunlake Boulevard interrogate did you say no I can say what one of the symptoms of participation in in systemic racism is is an inability to see it if you're white and it's invisible to you and so maybe you need to look harder when it seems like a little defensive no don't from Canada reviews from people who are in different different like levels of stress with different things are happening their lives around this woke explosion that happened in the last month or so just ladies like I had to go through a brown for agility training at work what have brown fertility like like in India like no one ever thought they were racist Ryanair over you never hear about racist Indians right maybe Russell Peters would joke around about it right what happened was brown people in general like it's some kind of block of brown nests or whatever brown people have black racism to and that uphold white supremacy and then they start eating right and made every single one of them confessed and here's that double bind cuz it gets to you right and so what do you say you say I don't really know what you're talking about we're going to State your hearing it and then if you confessed to it then then you're falling in Game of Thrones those those people that almost like took over the crown which humans you know and I think it comes down to our natural religious impulses that I think I mean you know pretty well for my background you know I don't believe in God I'm an atheist and you know it's like I still do think that we have certain impulses underneath that lead people to build religious structures around themselves and have religious you know thoughts and feelings and want to have Spiritual Development and all of this and so religions can kind of do one of two things do you know I used to be kind of hard about religion and look topic angry atheist kind of picture but thought about it more and what you're not allowed to think about things and change your mind now but I did and what I realized is it some religions look up there like looking at God and they're afraid to send but they paying attention to God forgiveness and some religions look down and all they did was look at the sin and they focus on the sand and that's where the witch-hunts came from that was when the Calvinists got like you know fire and brimstone screaming you know sinners in the hands of an Angry God yours hanging on a spider's thread above the fires of hell and God didn't knock you into it cuz everybody's full of sin next thing you know they're killing witches so it's like you start Focus if you look up you know then religion can be great it can actually lead people you've stayed Spiritual Development community so on if you're looking down you're going to start obsessing about everybody if you're obsessing about saying you're going to start like this feeling with again reading Robin diangelo white fragility is just feeling like that she doesn't want to feel alone like she has these struggles and she just want to be alone so there's a white lady it's their feelings when they when they get defensive about it oh my goodness it's like the biggest corporate corporate training hustle ever and Aradia white fragility you can't disagree with it there's no way to disagree I've absolutely like rambutan some people on Twitter or the Smokies to come try to trash me and I just say you know that looks a little bit like white fragility and I give some reason that's kind of out of the literature and then they are like I can't have white fragility whatever and it's like on whatever and it's like oh that's definitely your getting defensive defensiveness is one of the symptoms of high fertility you just wanted to know your complicity in the system of racism that you benefit from and then you can't get away from it because

there's this weird language thing happening there with all these like like did he called it desensitizing or sterilizing language and that's what's happening so it takes all that meaning away so nobody knows what it means except for the guy preaching it so the guy doing the diversity training I watch the diversity training somebody sent me from their job the other day and This Woman's like just droning on it felt like you're just getting a job for work you don't want to do it and they're just watching this webinar this lady just ramrodding like 12 syllable words that you should like woah case we have to talk about microaggressions and their different kinds of microaggressions are micro assaults there are my goodness it's like what the hell is this micro salt and insults and then micro comment in the presence of a person of that race so it's not even really racist no it's not violence is all words and assault can just be an insult and they're all insults micro everything has to just be like words or standing in the wrong place salt is an explicit racial derogations so you put somebody down on purpose I know but that's a weird way of describing an explicit racial derogations plural and singular name-calling there's your - avoidant Behavior or purposeful discriminatory action it's a mess and that is a kzoo.edu reason. Kzoo.edu nice do I mean for the most part indicate multiple people right singular you could say they thought or they thought they would get away with it I mean you could say it but it's hard to use it that way all the time they could go right there's something like kind of totalitarian about making people do things like that that are difficult like jumping through these little hoops and then holding it a massive account and it's like I mean even like the blacklivesmatter thing is obvious forcing somebody to say an obvious thing that's a great name James D sport of course I can try to catch me which one was at least five I support one of them and I think the other four nuts right so there's black lives matter all lowercase letters is a sentence he can't disagree with it because it's obvious that black lights actually matter and you shouldn't be forced to say obvious things but what is that that's all right white people we have a different experience the society and its bad and we need you to hear us and we want you to care and we want there to be action taken that we can work on together to figure out who couldn't support that movement I think everybody in the world supports that but then you have the the official one and their websites full of like literally neo-marxist stuff and they're like weird like queer feminist something or another like seriously it's all on there about page on the black lives matter website and it's like that's a lot of baggage man I don't know if I'm for that and then you have like the training video and they are they're trained activist you don't actually have to go along with all of that to agree with the sentence then you have this thing with white people there's like a black lives matter movement that white people that are like washing black people's feet and like calling him and apologizing like freaking him out and I mean this is actually horrible to amazing could you imagine what it's like being like somebody calls you the person I know it's so awkward my favorite one was the white actors that all got together in that black and white film no kidding that was so oh my gosh Breaking Bad Guy I wish I would have talked to you before that I can tell you what happens next then they found out what was the you said that she was pissed off because I got this email from her there was like short but it was like I would really hurt that you were deceptive to me and it was kind of like that I felt bad it was about the ideas about the scholarship it wasn't about the people and I felt like it was really unfortunate that there were people implicated in it actually did feel bad for them in almost every case they're a couple of them that actually right pissed me off with some of the stuff they wrote to me but so I didn't feel bad about them so much but that's a human failing at you know I'm not a perfect person when they pissed you off cuz they would they write so there is I mean besides the obvious wanted to Ogle checks but that main reason was that they could order like a double meaning of the word order right order their food they could order pretty young women around that have to do what they say at the end of the patriarchal order taking their orders what is a pun and this one woman wrote like this long review of it and she was like this paper it was remember it was submitted to a journal called men in masks it was a paper that's was supposed to study the masculinity and she wrote back this paper talks about men instead of women and it victim blames and papabubble in like all you can go to hell you know basically I like come on because of that and it's like this so annoying most impressive more actually like really nice people so I think you're feeling is that there there's really nice people to get bamboozled in a really bad ideas and then when you snuck in these hoax papers that you're you're essentially speaking their lingo and they don't even know that they have a link it's right and so I actually think that the boat were looking at with this woke movement and you always been compared it to call to confirm actually think it's evil and the reason is because exactly what you just said it plays on people's best nature it takes good people in twists them to its purpose and that's horrible like the whole game is to try to make you a nicer more caring person so takes your care and turns it into something literally totalitarian you're not allowed to disagree with it anything you say you get brand of these horrible stigmas they try to cancel people and it's like it's literally use people's best fairest most just in caring instincts to make them program into this way of thinking particularly with people in their cars when they have marches that they just decide to start smashing people's cars and doing things to people's cars whether it's because the people don't agree with what they're saying or they choose someone or I don't like the look of that person but they feel justified in the violently packing them in their car because they are there to do a good thing that's right yeah that wouldn't whenever somebody's going to punish people and think it's the moral thing to do that's where you got some danger going on and the reason they do that by the ways because they think everything happening is violence why do they feel justified in throwing a brick through Starbucks yelling about targets why does this keep happening is this is going to sound absolutely insane but it's actually true is that they believe that something like Starbucks is a big Corporation and when it comes in your neighborhood it starts taking resources capitalist resources money from that neighborhood and then dumping into Corporation and they see that as a form of violence against neighborhood so they're justified in using violence to disrupt that by throwing a brick through the window even though it's probably some franchise owners are trying to make a buck a job that runs it that's crazy justification is with with regard to to that aspect of the series people were actually doing this know this that that's why they're doing it or that mean is his written anywhere we had the collection of being a form of violence that Kelly seems like epistemic violence and in some of the literature they call it discursive violence and some of the literature so nice they just call it violence in queer Theory all the violence of categorization so there's all these different types of violence that did the marinating in this idea that these things that are happening the way people talk micro assault is a violence and I mean I even saw thing somebody sent me today from some University Indiana maybe where the person saying that you know there were tearing down these physical Monument think about discursive so verbal monument and then in the middle of this which is otherwise cracked was you know not violent he actually says something to the effect of that we we really need to be prepared to do violence against this violence and so they're marinating in these kinds of thought so you get these like like with antifa what are these dudes are like hopped up mostly young men trying to put out them there some women in their two of course but there's a lot of young men who are like doing their young male rage and they're pissed off at society and they've read all these books saying how America sucks and hurts you know Ali what hurts you do minorities and so on but a lot of people are feeling the sting frankly because the whatever the Republican policies since Reagan have really kind of like put some squeeze on people it's really Amplified now because of covid-19 living on Twitter rationalizing that they don't have to really make coaching points they just have to have like some iconic enemy in their head right we really should have saw at Target getting set on fire when Target got deemed essential and then people started making a big deal about Target centralized Target essential cuz you need to buy toilet paper you f*** like combination of events that happens in a perfect storm order right and so it's okay I'm not let me start right and this is already bad but I'm not a conspiracy theorist I don't actually buy into conspiracy but we are in a situation because of a lot of political currents for the last 50 years where there's a lot of billionaire philanthropist groups write that generate a lot of money they win a lot of think tanks they run a lot of like policy forms and organizations and 501c threes and so on and so forth to study things the rapidity with which the materials like the like Instagram ready tracks that you could read and little videos the speed in the educational curricula and the guides for here's a bunch of resources for a fur how to remake your your business this stuff came out fast so what I think is actually going on is political operative types wait for I mean sings never let a good crisis go to waste right so they wait for a precipitating event and then they've been making easy digest materials for a long time and paying people like you know hey come work for their Forum but we really need to do is look at how we can get books for like anti-racist toddler books you know and erases kids and people riding these books boardroom nasty stuff and then these materials are just ready to go out fast and so this we had those you said A Perfect Storm piss off Trump is everybody pissed off is like impossible to watch any listen up you just pissed off my I have to be careful cuz I actually starting to get frustrated and emotional about it the amount of being lied to this is so obvious you know to a lot of the news right now at these protests especially in riots is just going whether the article that I showed you that shows that the covid-19 cup the up taking cases had nothing to do with black lives matter but probably had to do with people staying inside yeah gaslighting man that's the craziest gaslighting ever like so why you making everybody stay inside then cuz that means a disease is going to get even worse bright like if we're being forced to lock in shut down and shut-ins and stay home that can make the disease worse go to your article sounds like what in the world is going on here protesting and it's long as it's a good cause everybody could die exactly but it's real trust me I know right now once you're protesting and it's long as it's a good cause everybody could die exactly because racism is a real virus is what they actually said well that's a real virus to but that kovacic it's real trust me it's it's I know I don't have it right now

no you cover how many different subjects in this book cover eight different campaigns of denials for you in particular climate change has the most disturbing or that's well that's the one that present or future of human civilization radium radium the crazy crazy story radium is insanely radioactive element that was discovered you know I run just a right regular 1900 by the curies in France and it was a mystery I mean it was way more radioactive than uranium and people didn't even know what radioactivity and when they discovered it they didn't the first thing they discovered and they discovered this it was that it burned your flash didn't burn it right away but you carry some around and then a few days you would have a burn there because it was sending off all this energy so they thought okay we have this flesh killing still killing element what can we do with it and they thought well let's try to kill cancer tumors which was it actually a very good idea and they experimented with that that was the medical use for radium we're going to put this radio the next tumor and so is very efficient that form was radium in they would put it that they somehow still attend and so the government so we'd make sure it gets used to actually cure cancer and and in Europe that's pretty much what they did in the US we try to do that but the industry that was a brand-new industry that was just forming and they step forward first company was called standard chemical they step forward and said no no no no no somehow it did succeed in so what happened was this mysterious and potent element became another commercial project commercial product to be exploited by this this company standard chemical there were some others that later popped up Sandra chemical was founded by he told Congress to cure cancer you had a good motive in the world in 1913 Pittsburgh and he invited patients in and hired doctors and thousands of them were injected with radium or they drink made him so if you can somehow prove that consuming radium is healthy than you have a market right and many of these people did have cancer but it turns out that injecting him with radium would actually kill them a lot faster than the cancer would having one of the clinic doctors was questioned before Congress and and he explained they weren't just treating cancer patient they were treating anybody they were treating arthritis they were treating joint pain and so they were you know giving this very toxic substance to people with low-level chronic problems and then he would he actually formed his own medical journal and he would have his doctors write up the results of this and put it in there and send it out to all the doctors so yeah I mean it was really pretty crazy but he did succeed in launching this helps bad we're suddenly there were lots of products that contains radium some of them said they did with it but but many of them really did and you could buy your radium get your radium in all kinds of different ways if you wanted a radio after active drink you could drink it you couldn't still get injected you could take pills you could do you want to stoke in in Radium you could buy bath salts ointments there was radio is radium toothpaste and and oh and and one of the more interesting ones there were radioactive rectal suppositories and these were marketed basically for male sexual dysfunction that's not what they called it weird they said this was for men who wanted to perform the duties of a real man that was you know I think what happens if you're if you're going to sell a quick product you try to identify problems that people are kind of embarrassed about so they're less likely to go to the doctor that will buy it out of the back of a magazine and then if it doesn't work they're not going to complain about it or not going to sue you so but these were not just for that they were marketed for colds they were marketed for obesity it's pretty much fizzled out in the 30s largely because one particularly prominent and Wealthy individual could afford to poison himself very thoroughly by drinking these radium drinks everyday and ultimately his his facial bones started to dissolve Diles which is actually a more well-known part of this history a lot of young women were hired to paint radium on to watch dials not just watched as they put them up Yahoo radium for 20 years well yes I mean the industry got going in the mid-nineteenth teens this this one man I was just talkin about died in the early 30s got lots of press and that helped the health fad part of go away the the worker exposure for the young women usually who were disfigured and died from from this that part of the industry of radioactive pay lasted a bit longer into the 30s they when they began they taught these women and young women they might have been 15 when they got hired they taught them to make a nice sharp point on their paintbrush with their lips and tongue and because there was this help fat around radium they told him that this would would put a glow in their cheeks and you've seen these pictures that they really had some some pains in their cheeks but it wasn't the glow they ended they told him it was good for and so a lot of them not all of them I mean so you know not everybody died which made it easier for the industry to actually blame them and and measure of Industry would say that these people with these horrendous disfiguring diseases that they were suffering from a pre-existing condition that this was somehow not the fault of radium that they had hired cripples and and other people who work super strong because this was easy work and when they sick everybody blamed them and they were being punished for their generosity of hiring is folks in the first place by the way these women had radioactive breath at this point out that they had radium lodged in there appalling but one of the things we did see is that the leaders that industry including the guy who invented that radioactive paint and including Joseph Flannery died and and certainly the the rated the inventor of the paint died because of radium exposure his teeth falling out of Time Magazine his fingers have been removed Flannery the guy who launched standard chemical will have this great idea that he had all those radioactive waste right so he hired a botanist to find out if it could be a fertilizer and then they published a report that you should yeah spread radioactive waste on your food crops because it's great he actually had him spread waste on his own garden and then six years later Flannery died and the industry didn't mention this but his birth certificate with them up he had a contributing factor in his death of anemia which is something that radium exposure causes enough to actually kill himself as well as other people so it seems again that this is there's a human characteristic that this distended say when you start making money start justifying you want to keep that money coming in so you start justifying your actions manipulating the facts and just continuing to push out whatever it is that you're doing that's allowing you to earn this profit send that we celebrate because they invent things and they make things happen and they build businesses the founders of industry and we we know from the psychological studies that there's a model when you think about how the mind works that governs a lot of This research that we've got it goin sister one of the things that activates the approach system is power and if you have an approach an active approach system you are focused on your goal you're focused on reward mean while the powerless are focused the inhibition part of the mind is more triggered by powerlessness and you're more focused on risk so if you're focused build as a Visionary and Joseph Flannery was hailed as a Visionary and he did you know he was bowled he was invented we worked hard to build a business he just didn't ask you know should we actually feed this cell killing radioactive substance diffuses into people's bones permanently to people without any evidence of safety or should we just go for it and see how it works and so you know that that I think is is troubling sense that you've got industry leaders who fit a certain psychological profile who rise to the tops of their Industries precisely because they are rewarded focused but if they are not balanced out by other people whose job it is to say what about the risks what about the consequences what could go wrong here you have a recipe for disaster and also ignorance at the time no one really understood the general public probably didn't really know what radiation did General Public didn't know it all and that's a problem without you with a case of a lot yet me to do with the case of a whole lot of these folks the consumers of these products we really don't know much about what happened we know more about the radium girls who were the ones who use this paint

interesting subjects that you cover because that doesn't get discussed anymore but I've been Australia and you go outside and you burst into flames everywhere you go there's he's Billboards that for skin cancer that show tumors and show you know people that have skin cancer and talk to you about the damage in the dangers of sun Hubbard this youth problem which we need in the diamond that was kind of serendipitous and yes the industry denied it and this kind of came into chapters first it was aerosol industry saying this is an attack on free enterprise probably the KGB is behind us and what else they'd already faced all of these you know demanding environmentalist saying take the letter to gasoline and do all kinds of other things has been so they were starting to feel like attacked on all sides and and eventually it was so there was some denial they're mostly political eventually that got handled it was in the springtime chlorofluorocarbons CFCs which were invented ironic by the same guy who invented leaded gasoline at GM houses that were thin in refrigerators and they would sometimes leak and kill people so people were just transitioning now from Ice boxes to fridges and and so they needed a non-toxic gas to put in there so he came up with this it was non-toxic and so you know what the time all together and realized we are wrecking the ozone layer and by 76 I think it was the Ford Administration said okay we're getting it out of the candy got a couple years and this industry their assault Industries would been screaming and yelling about anti-capitalists air conditioners and they were for putting up a plan for that then Reagan got elected and then in the concerns of the sixties and seventies about how do we protect the environment were replaced by concerns about how do we avoid environmental regulations because they felt it was hurting business and so they basically dropped the ball on this completely and they have been working on substitutes once the the pressure of Regulation went away they just dropped it they didn't keep looking for substitutes even though they have the the same science telling them that there was a risk here but they decided we're not going to have to worry about it then eventually the ozone holes discovered and scientists are shocked because the models had predicted in a gradual reduction ozone and suddenly you've got this production in Ozone and it covers like you know this huge space over Antarctica NASA had not discovered this with their satellites was that they were expecting so much less that they had apparently programmed the computers to read huge readings like this as instrument error Kevin we had the Montreal protocol and even though Reagan had run on this anti-regulatory platform he signed the Montreal protocol send it ratified that I don't think of any dissenting votes so you know that was a big success story and by the way by the time we're going to stop making a denial but an example where the product wasn't their core product it was a little sliver of Revenue that wasn't that lucrative they could replace it with something that they could sell and they're going to clearly get regulated anyway so it's so clearly that you know the benefits of continued denial has sort of disappeared and so he can't count on evidence leading to the end of corporate denial more typically you have a situation like tobacco and fossil fuels we're even if it does mean to denial they don't stop selling the product right so then again obviously oil companies can't just stop selling their product but they can be part of the process for us all to figure out how we're going to replace it as quickly as possible stopping emissions meant that the old stuff was still going up there and it was on the team decades to fix it we do seem to have signs of healing now of the ozone layer so it does seem like we have solved wealth all this week we have stopped the harm and it's going to get better two natural circumstances but people don't let us celebrate that as Humanity and getting rid of a product that had been really useful and valuable to us but what happened to mediately after that was this political backlash even when you had the chemical industry saying yep we're destroying the ozone layer we're going to stop doing that you had these right-wing groups Fred singer actually was one of the witnesses who is also in in merchants of Doubt who goes and and he gets to testify before Congress he's a scientist and he's saying that the main stream science on which you have just based all of these decisions at your being Bamboozled and they have an anti-capitalist agenda and you had then I think it was Tom DeLay saying he doesn't listen to the ozone Trends panel all of those hundreds of scientists who hammered out the data on these issues he listens to Fred singer and that was sort of the beginning science deniers who's ever had this all-purpose agenda that looked at lots of different Industries in the funny thing was here you know you had the industry saying no we are fine with this for a long time and to some extent they also been funded groups with an idiot logical agenda who continue to push that doubt and then some of those Industries stop denying the science maybe because they were going to get sued or maybe because it was just time but the groups that they have funded now through outflank them on the issue and for example Exxon used to fund ExxonMobil used to fund this little crazy little group called The Heartland Institute and they they stop doing that quite a long time ago but it's Institute just getting more Nordstrom play they had a dispute between ExxonMobil in the Heartland Institute in the Heartland leader called ExxonMobil part of the anti-energy global warming movement monsters going to keep going around out there and it keeps getting a lot of money the problem is it doesn't necessarily know who's funding these groups anymore for long-time Exxon funded a lot of climate and I are groups they got a lot of public push back and pressure they stopped funding the most extreme ones not all of them then the Koch brothers started funding their Foundation started funding a lot of these groups they got a lot of attention then we saw a lot of the funding of these groups Going Underground into these dark money stations like donors trust that promised anonymity so that if you want to fund a politically sensitive issue nobody knows you've done it so these you know the more extreme groups get a lot of money from these dark money organizations and and therefore there's even deeper and an embassy and end no accountability suspect that it wasn't that I think they really have just created a monster here really would be brilliant if it was true that you and you don't actually want to do anyting you you spin off of denial and other groups that will actually stop things and this little group Heartland this extreme edge of these advocacy groups they are deeply involved enormous influence so if you can back off like like Exxon especially ExxonMobil especially if you're being sued and you've got angry shareholders and you got the SEC you had a lot of reasons and and you have Angry European countries that are taking this more seriously in your multinational you a lot of reason to kind of keep your mouth shut and and maybe say the right things but you can indeed still benefit from the denial you have spun off into the world that is in fact but you can indeed still benefit from the denial you have spun off into the world that is in fact say rolling back the fuel efficiency standards I don't know what Exxon Mobil has said about that but clearly the more inefficient our cars the more oil gets burned

what you're doing with this book is essentially of a magnifying glass and some of the worst aspects of human behavior is it depressing kind of its you know it's kind of depressing reading which you know I really didn't intend that I kind of thought well because it was and then we were going to look around and go for us all did that happen and how do we make sure that never happens again and I would be able to say look here's some factors that have contributed to this world history and and yours you know maybe this will lead to some reforms and obviously didn't work out that way this book has come out when we have a climate denier running the country still pushing back the regulations I said that several times and I know at least in one maybe more a Chinese hoax I do try to keep some perspective here and and you know look at look at the good parts of this history which is to say in each case you have members of the public you have scientists who have journalists you have movement stepping up and confronting that denial and eventually in most cases overcoming it and you know we do have other segments of our society that are designed to try to not just Pursuit add butter stick of truth scientist intern listen that doesn't mean they're not also trying to sue profit sometimes or at least get paid for their work but you know we do have systems in place that have successfully confronted this and so it's not like we're starting from scratch we are just in a very big hole right now and particularly about climate change and particularly with so much corporate power over Congress and and frankly the states as well what what's up did you see there's actually progress been made well you know people have been fighting climate change on the state level and we have done some things also federally for a long time over the years I mean many many states have put in place climate targets to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions many have put in place renewable energy standards would have been enormously successful in building up the wind industry the solar industry and and those Technologies Floyd improve I've gotten so much cheaper I mean it's really much much easier now to imagine getting rid of fossil fuels than it was in a 40 years ago when the industry first confronted this or when Society first really started looking at this on the federal level late they've made major improvements in required efficiency standards which have been really helpful or major appliances Obama put some strong Compass world that was back again so that's going to limit the progress exactly when it needs to be accelerated so that's that's maybe not one of the good news you were asking about we have well I mean I think that's going to be largely focused even though we have that Trump has said we're not going to be part of the Paris agreement anymore which by the way every other country in the world is a part of there's a handful that have ratified it but everybody else is even though many states and in many cities stepping forward and Saint will we are still part of it and we are going to be working to reduce our mission so that's all very good news the technology that we do have a deep bench of policy experience weed and we know a lot of good things that we can do that will work and we have the rising concerned that youth movement in all around the world really have got to deal with this have the rising concerned that youth movement in all around the world really that whoever who are really stepping up and say enough we have got to deal with this and we've got to do with it now and because you grown-ups of wasted 30 years we've got to deal with a particularly aggressively

protect Freedom or if you're a slave trader it's to rescue the Africans from terrible lives in Africa and bring them to the comfortable plantations that was actually an argument oh yeah the slave trade had a complete rescued narrative I'm talking about the British really intense campaign of industrial denial I could find the the British dominated the slave trade in the seven and Vicky they faced a very powerful abolition movement at the end of that Century which was really going to the public and saying look at how brutal this is they had Witnesses they have a torture devices they have all kinds of evidence and the British were really responding because they even though straight so the Traders and the Planters got together they form display Lobby they had a very organized campaign and response and slave Lobby there was a very powerful thing about the slave trade was they had all this evidence the industry comes back and they knew they couldn't just say oh it's not so brutal they actually came back with this complete counter-narrative which was we are rescuing these people that that they're the Africans are eager to be purchased they actually try to Market themselves that's how good they are for for work they enjoy that Crossing across the Atlantic there is singing dancing games of chance and when they get to the plantations is incredibly comfortable they get comfy little houses it's like a cradle-to-grave welfare state they don't have to worry if they get sick we take care of them we feed them and they're doing way better than those poor peasants back there in Britain or those poor miners or those people working in the factories so that was that was part of it in the next part of it was that they they said that if they had left them in Africa if you didn't continue this trade all of these prisoners of War would be massacred or they would be eaten by cannibals or they would die of famine so they were this was a rescue narrative if you believe that you are rescuing them because as one one traitor put it that the house of bondage is really the the house of freedom to them that I've may have misspoken that little bit but with a truly orwellian quote and and and so that way you you translate abolition into inhumanity into brutality and and you portray the continued slave trade as a way to to save these people want one quote with great that if you were to free the slaves and and by the way they were actually talking about freeing the existing slaves just stopping the flow of New Slaves but one of the quotes was that freeing the slaves would be cramming liberty down the throats of people incapable of digesting that was working to try to distort the perception of reality so that they can continue with their doing right and we've seen modern Industries doing they they you know I mentioned the reference to the poor peasants and and they also talked about you know how would you like it written if if people came in and started telling the peasants and the soldiers in the sailors that they had rights so basically this kind of help us or you are next to your hole. in between their industry and their interest in the whole country or rather you know kind of an early version of what's good for the country is good for GM and vice a versa they said if you abolish this trade it means Universal bankruptcy for the kingdom so they basically you know just created this incredible slippery slope that every that any kind of Reform or certainly abolition of this industry would would be disastrous for the entire Kingdom so well-documented like open discussions about how to spin this in a way that it's going to get people to think that slavery is a good thing well I don't know about internal discussions the books and pamphlets because this was all done writing we also have some hearings and we have parliamentary debates they were recorded not you know verbatim the people try to write them down and so we have some version of what was actually said in these debates in the various hearings that our parliamentary hearing so there's actually quite a lot of evidence of the arguments being made in their own words so and then this was primarily in Britain right this is what that's what I'm talking about obviously there was this we had our own abolition movement here did those same arguments did they actually get presented in the United States and one reference when historians saying that about half of the defenses of slavery came from the clergy it wasn't quite the same sort of clearly he industry in and here's an audience that they're talking to so that's one of the reasons I didn't Focus quite that at all it really I'm not American into those but I did by the way though find one source and now I don't remember if he was a plantation owner or something else who described the called slavery you know basically a way to make people as happy as can be and and called it the ideal of communist what was funny cuz you don't even think of Communism that debate as existing this was would have been an 1800 now but he was saying that the north is exploiting these workers not taking care of them but in the South we take care of them we make them happy as slaves start make money doing something whenever a corporation at particular corporation right because there's a diffusion of responsibility in a large group of folks and they have this you know this obligation to earn money for all the people that are involved in the corporation so they start rationalizing their decisions and then twisting things around what is this is this something that can be traced back before then is this a natural human trait is kind of deception when I can't specifically answer whether it can be traced for them because I didn't try to trace it but I would not be at all surprised because I do think it's a natural human trait I mean I one of the issues that I started to struggle with and I realized and they're both equally destructive and they're both I think equally responsive to these kind of external circumstances that we create in corporations when we form corporations and we put them into a part of human nature I do think we've created this system that brings this out and people and really encourages it in in so many ways I mean you mentioned the diffusion of responsibility and that is huge because we do know and I dip into social psychology in here not a ton of it because that science is still relatively new and and kind of you know a little bit thin compared to the environmental science very very deep but we do know that when you when you diffuse responsibility it makes it very easy for people not to feel responsible for the harm that's done so if you got a corporation horse you have division of labor you also have division of management from ownership so if you are a lower worker you told a lie about something or cause him harm well you're minding your own business and you and you left your boss take responsibility if you are the boss you're focused maybe on your employees and and certainly on your shareholders so if you're lying about something or causing harm it doesn't necessarily feel like a personal selfish Act of deception it probably feels like loyalty and responsibility because first of all their far away usually they don't really know what's going on they have maybe just a temporary transactional interest in what's going on I just bought the stock they want to sell it quickly makes it so so you don't really have anybody there who feels really responsible for this but there was a definition of a of the corporation from the early 20th century and something called the cynics dictionary as an ingenious device for obtaining personal profit without personal responsibility and and of course that is exactly what we intend from corporations because they are we Grant limited liability to the shareholders and and that's why I was that that protection from risk that people are willing to pool their capital in in that serve Berry key to the very idea of a corporation and then of course that's the focus on profits means that you were constantly focused on on money and you know it short-term way not even long-term profits which would be a narrow enough Focus but then there's a lot of other things to add to it you've got competition by definition competitive markets so that means you are already in a kind of tribal mindset and you've got the ideologies of the marketplace which you know we can go back to Adam Smith the Invisible Hand pursue your own self-interest in the marketplace will automatically convert that to public good and it doesn't work in a lot of cases and probably worked a lot better in the 1700 when you've got these enormous organizations that have incredible Market power and these very new whiskey Technologies often it is much harder to to be confident that that's going to work and then it more recently we've seen that that idea that you don't have to worry social consequences of your commercial action just get intensified week we had in Milton Friedman in 1970 writing this very persuasive article saying that the only real objective the only legitimate objective of a corporation is to maximize shareholder profit and if they're talking about protecting the environment then it got more extreme in the 90s and and in the 21st century where you've got this this strain of intense faith in Market forces that was manifested by Alan Greenspan at the fed by the Koch brothers David Koch has passed away and the network of influence groups that he created the think-tank's the free-market group sees different academic groups you know what one of the things that I tried to trace a little bit in the book is talking about the rise of the consumer movement in the environmental movement in the sixties and seventies and people saying wait a minute we need corporations to beware of these problems and we need government to regulate corporations to make sure that our cars are safe in our ozone layer has not destroyed but then starting in 1980 when Reagan was elected you suddenly see those those concerns faced with a concern over regulation and end really a backlash that that you know has come and gone but basically intensified over the years and and now of course we have a situation we're not only do we have a government unwilling to regulate that we have one that is rolling back critical regulations that were put in place by previous administrations of course influenced by I do think for example about Charles Koch and Koch Industries it's based in oil refining so that is very much based in the fossil fuel industry but but that the Koch network is very it illogical passionately it illogical and they just happened to coincide with being in the in the fossil fuel industry but you have a lot of other groups that have received money from oil companies from the coal industry so it gets kind of integrated I do try to not treat them all the same in the book I tried his kind of differentiation and you really do have a difference between the the kind of coke perspective the coal industry perspective the oil industry perspective and then all of these little free-market groups actually they fit more run the coke side but they all seem to have one thing in common with their rationalizing and justifying their actions because they want to continue to make profits regardless of the impact on the environment or the people and this weird thing about operation self it's almost like a diabolical vehicle for for allowing people to do things you know did to be able to do something and say hey we're going to do this as a collective and therefore no no individuals are responsible for the results of the collective particular if you're not the one who gets to decide what gets done you just taking orders and you was doing your job and your job is segmented and it's all compartmentalize so you're not you're not dumping anything in the river bomp you not to worry about that but new car and it's a beautiful house that you got you bought with the profits of poisoning Lakes that's exactly suggest in the book that if you were a super villain and you wanted to create a society that would ultimately destroy itself by imposing huge risks on each other and on the planet you would probably create something that looks a lot like our current corporate dominated global economy in the sense of these organizations that amplify your self-interest that diminish your sense of responsibility that amplify all of your biases you would have a justifying ideologies to make adulting fine you would have the the responsibility so diffuse that nobody would really feel too badly about it and you give these folks incredible political power including constitutional rights so that they could dominate your democracy so that they could basically corporations can do what is legal used to not be that way they could do whatever they were authorized to do by their Charter and then they'd have to stop so they've get it their permission to build a canal and then they'd be done and go away eventually we made them Immortal and said they could do whatever they wanted as long as it's legal and then we gave them huge amount of power to determine what actually is legal by influence our democracy during the slave trade they were they didn't necessarily call them that but they were essentially owned by shareholders and so they would in a pool their capitals that was very similar we've had corropolese actually corporations are centuries-old if you go back to I think summer league universities and things but we we didn't have kind of general-purpose corporate laws in this country I think until mostly in the 1800 they're only a couple of significant corporations around even at the time of the founders and so that's why you really don't see corporations in the Constitution knowing they're not mentioned because they weren't very powerful when they did get more powerful and you have some quotes from some of the founders think this is a little scary and then of course they became very powerful folks like Teddy Roosevelt open of Law and so we get to determine how much power it has and he responded with the kind of trust busting movements breaking down some of the really big old trust and and that was in a probably the first big push back where it where the government said wait a minute you corporations are too powerful we're going to try to reduce that power and then I think the next big phase of that would have been in the depression where you have the the New Deal singing and saying okay Banks you just wrecked the economy were going to regulate you or going to give workers more rights we're going to create Social Security do all kinds of things that that diminish corporate power over the democracy and then it happened again in the 60s and 70s and what I think is it is that it might be about to happen again given that there is now so much concern about corporate power and of citizens united influence over our democracy people worried about concentration of wealth at the very very tippy-top and obviously people worried that we are unable to deal with climate change and another Factor would be the power of social media corporations to influence elections to influence public discourse they seem to have kind of snotty and in a way that was really unexpected and people didn't see it coming right well I mean that's actually the pattern doctor's pretty much begin with some kind of Discovery and some industry races in there and takes advantage of it I mean even slavery the discovery would have been the new world and this enormous commercial opportunity if you can just get the workers in their tooth to grow their tobacco in the continent of sugar but but to have the discovery you have an industry springing up to take advantage of it and making a lot of money and and changing social norms along the way then problems are emerging obviously was slavery parents but problems will emerge other people outside the industry discover those problems and pay attention to them draw attention and then eventually you get to a lot now that's kind of an artificial ending because you have to make sure that law gets enforced but but in almost all of these chapters you get to some form of government action where they say no you can't do that anymore process first of all it takes a long long time and enormous damage can be done in the meantime but that process doesn't work you don't even get your you're somewhat happy ending if the industry has become so powerful that that it determines whether it gets regulated or not and it blocks those regulations damage can be done in the meantime but that process doesn't work you don't even get your you're somewhat happy ending if the industry has become so powerful that that it determines whether it gets regulated or not and it blocks those regulations

can someone to do a psychological profile of those people predicted the tobacco people because he's like such a direct correlation between tobacco and cancer like it's the climate change thing it's almost like it so hard to track cuz it's so far in advance and if you say the climate change isn't real what deaths are caused is it directly attributable to that like how do you you know I'm saying but like cancer and cigarettes like here's a person they smoke cigarettes they have cancer you said it didn't come from cigarettes what does that feel be that person that actively tries to essentially lying there line for money dandelion let me get back up one second and then talk about that just because I want to make it clear that while that the link between smoking and cancer may seem entirely obvious there's enough of a delay that opens up the link between putting greenhouse gases in the air and established as the links between smoking and cancer it's just that there it is a more complicated problem some internal documents in and certain things that may have been public utterances but work clearly just a part of their internal rationalization for example I start the book with a quote from the head of Philip Morris who says who knows what you would do if you didn't smoke maybe you'd beat your wife maybe you drive cars fast and you know that that's part of how I think the tobacco industry approach than this they would they would imagine the sort of counter-factual where the world without tobacco cigarettes and then they would imagine what that would be like and of course I'd always imagined it was what much much worse more than right apart and also that the man in question 1 the quitting cigarettes so right yeah he had there's how many people have gotten cancer from cigarettes but it's probably smoking killed I want to make sure I get this right I think was a hundred million people more than maybe both Wars World War 2 death toll in the US 480000 a year now to sing for people to go pretty far down the road when they are working in an industry and in the process I try to explore a little bit in the book their industry they're confronted with some accusation that they have caused harm they check their gut and their gut says no we didn't intend to cause harm we don't feel guilty and so their mind starts to come up with reasons why it must be wrong and their tribal instincts which are never more than just a millimeter below the surface or pretty much any of us but but certainly in this case get trigger so they immediately think well these people accusing me have an ulterior motive they must be they want money they want Power they want attention they've got some Sinister political objective and then there's the other part of that tribal dynamic as they start thinking about themselves and end their truly lofty Mission which is ingested still a product but something else they must be the money they want Power they want attention they've got some Sinister political objectives and then there's the other part of that tribal dynamic as they start thinking about themselves and end their truly lofty Mission which is Injustice still a product but something else

how did you get started on this and how did how did you get interested in the subject got interested in this subject through climate change climate denial specifically I'm an environmental attorney and back in the 1990's I worked for the state of Minnesota and we found ourselves very briefly serve on the front lines of the scientific debate over climate change in the way that happened was the state of passed a law saying that utilities leaders should try to estimate the cost of the environment of generating electricity we get most of our power from coal or we did then and so we looked at coal emissions we looked at the traditional pollutants that we had regulated for a long time and and my client was the pollution control agency so I was familiar with those what we also looked at though and and I wasn't familiar with was CO2 and its effect on climate change is a big issue globally there was already a global treaty signed on to fight climate change States had not taken a look at that and what happened was we struck a nerve with the coal industry and they sent to Minnesota a bunch of witnesses bunch of scientists to testify that we did not have to worry about climate change and it wasn't going to happen that all of those scientists that ipcc intergovernmental panel on climate change those scientists that the rest of the world including the US government in the treaty signed by George HW Bush the ones that they were relying on those scientists were basically by us it was clear they did not want us worrying about this issue at all they told you that it would be just a little and that you would like it would it would all that well a couple of things one of the arguments and you will still hear this sometimes is that CO2 is a plant fertilizer which is true and therefore more CO2 makes the world a happier place for plants and and therefore better for everybody else and did it to the point where one of the coal interests who were we're parties had put out a video saying that the Earth was deficient in CO2 and by digging up the cold and burning it we were we were correcting that yeah so that was one of the arguments the other was it's gotten a lot worse but there were certainly enough to leave me shocked was that the first time you were aware the corporations do sending people to try to defuse arguments or pollute the water's pretty extreme and a lot more extreme the ones I cross-examined were mainly the scientists also sent in some other witnesses as well so they actually work in Coal Company they were hired by the coal industry to testify and presumably they're paid to do this so is that if you have scientists and they come in and they say things that you know are not accurate or deceptive how do you find out what their motivation is did you did you ask them if they've been paid we were able to put some things in the record regarding how much money they got in from different fossil fuel interests over the years so we definitely did point to that argue about that we didn't realize some of the witnesses had a much deeper history than we understood in science denial one of the witnesses was a very prominent scientist named Frederick Seitz who has since died but what we didn't know what I did know when I cross-examined him I mean this was it a shoestring operation was that he had spent a lot of time actually Consulting for the tobacco industry so that would have been nice to bring up the man-made climate change very involved in Cold War weapons program so he kind of came at it from that direction and it wasn't until really he retired from his remain scientific and academic work that he was brought in to work for the tobacco industry but what happened was this handful of scientists profiled in that movie and end in the book by the same name they would also them work with these nonprofit groups these free-market groups that were strongly opposed to nation of Industries and soap in those same groups than wood address lots of different issues from tobacco to Ozone and and now the climate-changing and really a lot of other scientific issues as well for Industries facing regulation another really divisive aspect of left vs right audiological issue like there's a lot of people in the right that conversations with people that really don't have any idea what they're talking about where they instantly deny climate change is real issue and when you press them on it and just get this one of the benefits of having sort of longform conversation is that if you're doing this on CNN and it's one of those talking head things we only have 7 minutes and it's three people shouting over each other is very hard to get to the heart of why do you believe this but when you're talkin over long podcasts hours-long you get to these people and they'll adamantly deny that it's an issue but they don't know why do you know I'm saying it's like a thing if you're a right-wing pundit or right-wing person are you saying right-wing things you're going to say climate change not our issue what are we doing right now is the economy Pro economic standpoint and it becomes a denial of environmental problems that's becomes left vs right it's very I don't understand why anyone like how can not believe that not be a universal issue how could anyone not want the world to be better for a grandchildren I don't have anybody not want less pollution but it it becomes this thing we have all these different categories that are left and right and once you're on one side you automatically seem to oppose those things that are there in the other parties idea well in fact survey site in here that showed that climate change was the most polarized issue in the American political landscape even more than abortion really and you're absolutely right I'm very polarized and I don't think you can understand it if you know it's not in I don't think it makes sense from an idiot legal standpoint I think it makes sense from a tribal that we have divided and and it feels good to believe the same things as the people you are affiliated with us and its 10 students and not believe the same things I thought that's a source of hardship and you know the reason it's such a big problem here is that this isn't just about making the world better for our grandkids it's about avoiding catastrophe within the Democratic party I mean it's been ignored or or downplayed for too long and certainly in the National campaigns it was never perceived to be important enough or winning enough an issue to get a lot of attention now we see largely driven by the youth movement and insistence that yeah at the time it is absolutely time that we get married and and so I don't know what happens now with with covid-19 obviously there are other issues dominating the news right now but I really hope we we hang onto this issue as a critical one for the election and and and don't stop there because this is going to continue to require lots of pressure to make sure that we make the changes we need buy social media it's one of the weirdest things about it is that a corporation could legally create hundreds if not thousands of fake pages and then use those to make like I'm sure you're aware of the internet research agency from Russia that had an impact on a 2016 blackberry and Renee diresta did some pretty fascinating work on that where she did a deep dive into how the accounts Wizards Facebook or Instagram or what-have-you has been manipulated and how they how they use them where they're in one point they had a pro taxes group meet up at the exact same time as a pro-muslim Groupon the exact same block like they they manipulated like there was no one trying to play exactly it was like they were moving pieces on a chessboard and they literally set up altercation and you would imagine that I mean I do know what these fossil fuel companies or or any kind of company that's involved in any something anything that would be considered sketchy environmentally I don't know how many manipulating site they run or manipulative social media account they run but I would imagine that's got to be part of the game plan because online discourse it's so easy to throw a monkey wrench into the gears of stories ESO throw sand in the gas tank it's so easy and so. monkey with the numbers and change the ideas that are being disgusting change the narratives that it's it's it's a turn it's just a way that you can sort of shift The public's interest in opinions on things we we get polarized basically and that's even before social media so then you serve weaponize that polarisation that tendency and and you got an algorithm that says well if you like that video how about this video and suddenly people are getting totally radicalized on climate change or on other issues and so yeah I mean it is it is a huge problem how do we overcome the social divisions the social distrust how do we overcome the denial you know I think is if the patterns in in the book come to the fore we will Society will find ways to build trust again it'll probably have a lot to do with maintaining long-term accountability and not just a flash reaction to what you hear but it could very well take decades and we will have a lot of damage done in the meantime I wonder if there's going to be a time where there are laws against social media manipulation like that because right now they're not and there will be seems like there has to be cuz if you I can't imagine I'm not naive enough to imagine that what's happening with the internet research agency in Russia is not happening here it has to be they understand the effectiveness of it's been well-documented the idea that corporations are going to step back and go on our business and Incredibly effective tool and if you were going to use it to manipulate opinions on whether it's climate change or if you know anything that you don't pharmaceutical drug whatever whatever it is you want to manipulate people with I would imagine that that's a gigantic issue but it's not something that really gets discussed in terms of in terms of passing legislation to prevent that stuff in and hopefully it gets more and more discuss because it is very scary I mean it turns out we humans are easily manipulated and easily manipulated even before social media but now there is this incredibly sophisticated engine drive us apart to drive us in the direction that those bested manipulating us want us to be addictive completely addictive mechanism that when people are upset about that when angry about things they post more so it's more valuable so the algorithms favor people being upset so they'll send you a few of you find abortion Hot Topic or environmental issues they'll start sending you though that's what's going to show up in your feet are going to get more of this is what you engage in and it's what's fascinating is it's it's not even really malicious in that it's just pragmatic because I have a friend who did an experiment my friend re wanted to find out what would happen if he just looked up puppies so he just looked up puppies on YouTube and look up puppies everywhere and it's feed was overwhelmed by puppies so it's not like this some vicious plot to only feed you things that you hate just human nature we tend to look at things that piss us off it was yellow and that sophisticated machine is clearly using the same sort of deceptive deceptive tactics to try to diminish their responsibility for what they're doing and that makes these tactics that they really are based in human nature I mean I think that if you are an executive you know your instinct is that you are doing fine and your instinct is that the other side is wrong in that psychological reflex then you know becomes the foundation for a corporate strategy and then that corporate strategy becomes the basis of kind of its own new industry of of public relations folks and advertising people as lawyers and promote that and then that becomes an ideologies that's certainly what we saw the progression for climate change denial and that's a dangerous trend public relations folks and advertising people's lawyers and and think tanks who will promote that and then that becomes and ideologies that's certainly what we saw the progression for climate change and I and I think our climate denial and that's a dangerous trend

moderation in where I used to lift super heavy for power like crazy head with now I couldn't walk from me to Jamie and back without getting winded and so do you like so I've taken 250 mg or 1 of an 1/8 every 3 days so basic West taking three shots a week of enanthate on but I was also taken equipoise that's for horses yes it is boys I was taking that makes you super purple Deca I took trenabol and for a while but I could not handle Trinity I have a building like it's superhuman strength for a little bit and I didn't take it for that long the one thing I found out its 1 there's a reason that you're not supposed to be on that s*** and I'm not a religious guy so now I can say God didn't mean you to be that way but somebody didn't mean me the f****** be that way like a monkey and with your your structure you know if you have a chemical and biological and hormonal structure of your body and your monkeying with that you know you're adding massive amounts of muscle to your body you're adding superhuman levels of hormones to your body well and I I'm 1/8 like the first time I took equipoise at the horse decongestant so I don't get no heat as it cleans out the Airways are opened up to bronchial dilator some hacking s*** up like what am I getting sick was cuz I know there's horses and pigs on the container anything to Hidalgo right in the horse fell in the pit with my daughter and I started crying I was that dog is the movie right I'm crying and then I had another bottle I got a mixed up so it's doubling up on Deca get this done with Dumber sheets for a year-and-a-half did you get yourself checked out afterwards back surgeries did you say you had something crazy yeah like more than 10 back surgery and that was probably his entire back is basically fused but when you look at him when he was mr. Olympia and only was winning yet Jesus yeah Jesus I mean that a human being can get that big lives by us and Denver you'll see him every now and are you used to and he's a new, one guy like Ronnie Jim and grab two 200 lb dumbbells and you start to lift that heavy ride that that's there's some help involved in that but I got to a point where I was super emotional and not like a I don't believe really in the road rage thing cuz I never got that you just tell me you're hanging a guy up inside of a building that's why I think if you just take an increased amount of like testosterone anabolic in general if you're happy guy you're happy you're a sad guy you're sad and if you're a dick head you're more of a dick head the thing was well Trend that's why I got off at that was one thing for me to definitely I just I was changing psychologically when I got off it was the like emotionally I was a wreck like that's the closest I'm not like a suicidal guy that's the closest where my brain just didn't function right and then I got off cold turkey and whatever I did that is a big issue with kids young kids their endocrine system crashes and just like we're talking about with soldiers that have been blown up in Montour football players are Fighters your body stop producing testosterone correctly after you get off that s*** you get really really depressed for some people figure XD as what they were telling me cuz I was afraid to go to the Justin crashes in just like we're talking about with soldiers that have been blown up in Montour football players are Fighters your body stop producing testosterone correctly after you get off that s*** you get really really depressed for some people bigorexia as what they were telling me cuz I was afraid to go to the gym cuz I was shrinking

show me some hair situation on cliffs where storms rolled in blacked out and just had to hunker down in like a cave right and just wait it out but nothing nothing horrible you kidney stones bad but really like some of the things you'd think they would happen if I died back there it's me from up there and pray for Cliff like that's the one thing that I would I would guess what happened that's how I died and Cliff cir Brandon worst ones ya lightning is another f****** scary one huh but that's a normal experience out there is lightning storms because of the heat from the ground in the cold from above the lightning storms there we go down there just a photograph what do you do if your in a lightning storm near trees because of you getting your trees with the trees get hit going to give you horrible advice I don't do s*** really so when there's a lightning storm you just laying your tent and hope it doesn't hit you as they blow over you may be causing and I'm not an expert at this it's just I have the if it's my time with my time so I just get in and I listen to an audiobook trench. There is probably horrible advice but the reality is my buddy audiobook would you listen to when you're almost dying from a lightning storm killer Jeremiah Johnson go to sleep but get hit with lightning in the spot where we killed a boy and he text me and he said something about this reminded me of it got hit with an RPG or something and I'm like whoa dude are you good do a story with no finish right he's got scars where the lightning came out of its oh no it that's where the internet and it blew the front of his or his buddies shoe out at the same time and so I would guess they were probably more strength and I was and whatever they did didn't work so anymore Frank and I just hunker down and listen to an audiobook of smell yeah something wacky like that number that movie with the what was it that big of a big dude actor where the guy gets hit lightning he's like she's been hit by lightning multiple times looking for it like he's a he's particularly attractive to lightning for some strange reason I think I'm particular tract how many times 7 times he died in 1983 United States park ranger and Shenandoah National Park in Virginia between 1942 and 1977 Sullivan was hit by lightning on seven different occasions and survived all of them I would I would go home and talk to my see if she put some voodoo on my reminds me of that saying I have if it was raining p**** you get hit in head with a dick that goes bad luck definitely one where I just kind of hang out in the tent and it Cooks you from the inside out like being in a microwave says man 61 survives being struck by lightning ten times Melvin Roberts made headlines in 2011 for being hit six times in one year why said he's been struck another for time South Carolina man suffered memory loss headaches speech problems and has nerve damage in his hands and legs like I don't I'm so confused I don't understand why I keep hitting them let me see what that guy looks like he looks like I've been hit by lightning ten times decks Yugioh blow the in your toes off really that we're at exit is made up of several 100 million volts what the f*** man that we've been in lightning strikes were they hit Trees close by it just blows them up and do the shrapnel it's pretty wild. Kill people nerve damage in his leg and foot as a result of lightning strikes change your current world record holder he died in 1983 by his own hand oh no that's not good yeah you got to Wunderlich what's left after you've been hit 7 times like your ship must be scrambled I don't know man but those are things that will probably get you talking about the last thing I worry about light lightning so it's a it's a real problem what is there a way to get it to hit something else like if your in your tent would it hit the tent and not you or what is go right through the 10th I think it goes through the 10 I saw it hit an old growth tree wants to blow a hundred 80 ft tall tree into pieces and I'm like I did not look appealing you know his kid he was going by me literally 400 yards and I'm watching cloud-to-ground and I'm like texting Frank I'm like dude buckle your s*** up it's coming and it went right in front of me and over Frank and you don't think so funny he literally called me like I'm okay sir and I'm like that was not cool and he had video of its striking you know all around what do you supposed to do in hunker down is what two other times once when he was a kid but it didn't hurt him so he didn't claim it and then another time is wife got struck while he was helping her with the clothes but he didn't get hurt that time either so I guess he didn't claim that time so weird like what what about a person's biological makeup we so different that lightning would be attracted to them I don't know he's got some serious static electricity the thing is like with your the more you're out there epic s*** happens well I guess you might not consider it affect but I mean the more he's a park ranger epic but I mean the more he's a park ranger right that's what I mean like you're out there and then you know you think about how much time I'm out there crazy shifts going to happen if you're in the Woods Lot mean there's no well the Wolverine the one-in-a-billion chance literally but the more you're out there just going to happen

you're not a big basketball guy but have you been watching that at all that's where I literally thought of you during this last one of them like I know Joe isn't watching this cuz of basketball but you would f****** love it because I'm especially this last one there coach Phil Jackson and his brain and the way he can motivate people I mean it is f****** shocking and never out of everything I've ever watched at iPod something and just thought got it for a few minutes and then hit play again and Rewind again on a documentary it's insane but he's a super winner to be such a winner like you stand out amongst winners is being so exceptional everybody like who's the goat Michael Jordan is always the first pick there's there's Wonder like how would LeBron how it how it is. But everybody was his Michael Jordan like to be not much of a super winter you think about all the people playing basketball all the people around him that are world-class athletes professional athletes me stand out amongst them please so wildly competitive that he will beat you in your own game he will ask you what you're playing if you were playing with something ago what is that and he will immediately start in his only goal is to beat you at what you love and what you think you are good at whatever it is so it just happens to be the basketballs the one he chose but also then he got that way with shoes with like he's like Alright well if I'm going to sign a f****** shoe deal then I'm going to do this the right way doesn't do that with golf to gambling with golf everything is against the wall and he's gambling with the security guard said he can't wait to take their money he can't he cannot wait is talkingshit to these guys that are protecting him crazy to get the closest to the wall with 1/4 he used to have a celebrity pool tournament Chicago and I heard if you're being a bully hate you that sounds about right everything that I'm gathering from this documentary is that he's so off-the-charts to be that kind of an achiever you have to have a Madness about you that's probably intolerable for most people just a desire to win conquer other days man those are Gladiators and other days were Generals and I know there's a lot of people to get into pro sports that it is it's really in a lot of ways it's it it moves them away from war in the best way that we know how possible but if we didn't have those if there was no Sports and people just conquered each other be the king of the world I came up in the Jordan documentary 2 he was like maybe 200 lb for the first couple years of his career and then booked up to 215 solid muscle in the direction he was taking so he would know how tired he should be and what he should be doing for the next day or not play what you say don't do today he played it all all 82 games he was rarely ever hurt because he knew that people were coming which was true to see him play and if he didn't give them that performance you feel like he's cheating everyone and every time he would play anyone for the first time he needed to show like he could never ever let anyone ever make them feel like they got one over on him so not only each game for the audience that are seeing him for the first time in which he needs to dominate but especially towards his opponent who literally thinks that maybe the maybe today will be my lucky day and I'm going up against Jordan this is you know it's the middle of the Season he'll probably he's not going to who puts up 60 points or whatever in your face like a faris's you you fall on the ground he crosses you over he does everything that you know you get embarrassed he would try to make a fool out of these people I'm at the first time I saw a photo of him it looked like he had left from center-court flying through the air to dunk and I'm like who how does a human even do that yeah how does a 200 plus pound human fly to the air like that and you know even towards the end of his career they just showed one where it's the All-Star game so he got to go up against Kobe Bryant for the first time because they're in two different conferences that don't normally play and Kobe's this eighteen-year-old that just you know went straight from high-school to the NBA completely dominating his side of things going up against Jordan for the first time ever and everybody on Kobe's side is saying you know Kobe asked us to let him have Jordan and Jordans on his side they have actual footage that's what's crazy about this documentary is it somehow this f****** camera crew Jordan let them come along and the bride and this green room for all this crazy exclusive content and he's saying to the guys you guys you guys all know this is in the green room but the locker room before you guys do you guys all know this kids coming after me right like he's going to want me to let me have them bababababa cuz he wants to show the kid and sure enough even though Kobe's 18 and Peak Peak Peak physical condition Jordan Wednesday MVP of that All-Star Game crushing it against young Kobe Bryant what's going to be the best of baseball that comes up Thursday go deep into which is interesting how the media and not a social media time. Was f****** hammering them because they built them up to be this young guy out of North Carolina Olympic Superstar all this attention and now he's the man and they started like beating them down with some of the gambling stuff he was doing it got leaked out and then quit I'm out. Wow cuz of all the negative attention that's what happens when you become that guy there's so much interest like to to be that guy first of all you have to have a fire burning inside you like most people will never be able to comprehend I like I like that's going to be in the other kinds of wild s*** to like gambling is going to want to have thrills ich of like what I mean if you think about professional basketball you watch an NBA game and all the thought that's involved in which way you're going and ability explode and inability to in the middle of all that land a Precision shot into a hole is really not another sport like that I mean baseball is you're trying to hit something is coming at you like crazy or swinging as fast as you can and there's a lot of skill to that as well obviously in his lot of skill to pitching but there's something unique about basketball and that in all this chaos you got to find Stillness in all this chaos you got to find the ability to stop and throw a perfect shot off so it's not just an incredible physical ability it's incredible physical ability and then touch real weird that's a very interesting sporting that way they requires you to have your s*** together together and you have to have mad practice love about growing up in Boston was Larry Bird stories Like Larry Bird was apparently just an insanely disciplined professional basketball player he would get there and practice before everybody stay after everybody process things left and right and when they would have those three point competitions we would have those All-Star three-point competitions in the locker room he just which one you guys coming in second that's DVD just walk in he personally execute Under Pressure into he was just better he could do things better than most people and even he said sometimes he thought it was God pretended to be Michael Jordan Legend is completely they have such good interviews with one with everybody magic they have such great stories it's crazy how you know I've always a documentary has the potential to destroy to be better than any other type of story whether to be a movie or a book because if it's unbelievable it's like the Tiger King if it's f****** amazing and it's real you can't beat it and that's what the Last Dance is doing it's crazy to be better than any other type of story whether it be a movie or a book because if it's unbelievable it's like the Tiger tank if it's f****** amazing and it's real you can't beat it and that's what the Last Dance is doing it's crazy

this resonates with everybody delicious pasta resonates with everybody that's why so many women were mad when Adele lost all that weight like no b**** I don't want to give up on this f****** pasta I was with you when you were big yeah she's a new photo of her yeah now I sawed this morning and first thing I literally the first thing that I thought of the second my eyes laid on that picture I'm like this is going to be crazy because people are going to say in these comments that she's be Shuffle and that's going to be hilarious because you're basically saying that she wasn't beautiful before by saying that she's beautiful now in a weird way sort of insinuated and and I I didn't even realize until 2 hours later an hour later after I had woken up that it became like this like new story so it's just funny to me because like it's like is your voice the same right cuz that's well it's it's funny that in that why wouldn't you want to applaud someone who did something that's really difficult to do and is now healthier if you are an Adele fan wouldn't you want her to be healthier wouldn't you I meet you wanted to be able to keep singing for longer Bryant you love her you wanted to be healthier you don't want her to get this is one of the main things they found in New York City about caught covid-19 that was a real problem with obesity big problem she was at one point I'm much larger and now she's like really slept and people are mad and saying this is what they're saying I don't want her to be applauded for losing weight as if it's some some to some boarding like this like that I don't want to adhere to these beauty standards that she's better-looking because she wait what she is and you know that the only reason why anybody would want to fight against that went so many people overwhelmingly think she looks better is because they don't look at themselves it's that simple they don't want change and they want you to just do what they're trying to bully you in deciding their beautiful if they're 210 lb is what everybody should like that's crazy can't do that if people have decided worldwide that fitter healthier bodies are more attractive that's just what it is that's what you need to find a beauty standards the beauty standards come from what people are attracted to yeah it's not fair you're right that's just how it is I know it's a difficult choice to try to move your body down and lose weight and get healthy we really talked about that we were just talking about it but you can't say that it's not attractive when someone has a good body cuz it is so if someone has a better body than they used to have it look better so that's what a beauty standard is this is what would people are attracted to income to bodies they're attracted to fit body that's not a that's a shame that's not a bad thing we need to avoid putting undue pressure on people it looks great if it's pressure on you because other people look great well what do you do with that pressure do you decide to be better better yourself take care of yourself better decide you decide that it's not worth as much to you to worry about what your body looks like and you're more concentrated on maybe art or whatever the f*** out that's fine too but you can't be mad at people that put a lot of energy in that direction and look better right because she looks better it's not a bad and isn't saying that everybody's body is beautiful no matter what doesn't that make it like worse for the people with ugly faces you know what I mean because like then they're more part of just a smaller group like if there's some lady that has like her eyes are on like the side of her head a banging body right that much swear it's a beauty standards of just what people are people attracted to its people generally attracted to people that are healthier that's just a physical thing that's a part of and we're only talking about attractive like sexual attraction right we're not saying you know if you were 20 or 30 pounds overweight like you look horrible and I want to look at you like I have a lot of friends are fat but it is what it is it's just it is what it is and maybe they'll find somebody that's into that but you can't like decide the people going to change what they're attracted to that silly you can't do like that they are attracted to people that put out more effort they're attracted to people that have the strength to get up at 6 in the morning go to the gym before work something really hot about that it's attractive attractive someone to take care of themselves it is it just is now it might not be to you but that's why the worlds beautiful because all have different things we like and different things you don't like it when a giant chunk of people are into this one thing like nice bodies it doesn't mean that the salt shallow or terrible or somehow to the demeaning to people that don't adhere to those standard know it's a competition there's if it's some sort of a physical physical physiological competition between males and females in terms of like trying to be attractive that's what I think they do they make their body look better than they do is dress nice they wear jewelry did you stop to make themselves look better the idea that making your body look better is somehow or another this is a bad standard to adhere to when you take your big body that you're not taking care of any wrap it up all this crazy clothes and all these ribbons and bows and you show your bare midriff cuz you're brave and get your big ol ass these jeans like you still looks pretty good don't get me wrong still look great she look cuter a little bit thicker now she looks sort of looks I mean granted she looks healthier but she looks a little bit more just basic you know what I mean sort of just like every all the other pop stars well in every movie where this guy was kind of a f****** was going to get in trouble it's a guys built like you with a woman who's like 250 lb he's got a Big Y for a big girl is always a few of those maybe that's your thing maybe like to deal with Channel how operatic right powerful powerful boys conversation with a buddy told me let's have a ball gag put his mouth like really look what people are into him saying you know I'm not saying that people can be in a big girls there's a lot of people in the big girls but a lot of people are into everything you know but that's okay to like a lot of people really weird stuff you got to try out different things I think if you can if you can get it it's fun

directions of supposed to be lifting up here in Los Angeles on Friday which means nothing for us for comedians that means something for like some retail some other stuff but they're doing it nice and slow and you see a list of s*** that the governor's office put out of stuff you're allowed to do you should pull that up Jamie cuz it is it's quite hilarious soft martial arts martial Martial Art of War it is what does that mean badminton singles singles throwing a ball a baseball softball. Here's the problem with that if you're throwing a baseball you're basically shaking hands and you doing it with an organic skin right baseball the outside of it is cow skin throw ball by yourself but that's not right okay thank you you're allowed to canoe singles like it specifies what's singles are they talking about crabbing like crab walk catching crabs you can go crabbing it's really big in like like Maryland and you know those guys love crabbing in Alaska to the do a lot of crowds and think it was just a California less that's why I was like I didn't thank you oh wow golf singles walking Tony oh my gosh you can't have a cart watching have a cart with his my car I can't take the cart doesn't even hurt the environment like what is the how can I take the car at you or why can't they clean it and how is it any different than the cart at the supermarket around like a cheapo rabbit rabbit at the supermarket now I know but it's like the places we absolutely have to go there even the shopping cart I was shopping the other day and I opened up the the kitty part you know to put other stuff in and I'm like they didn't there's no way they wiped that part well there's just no way if it was on here I got it after while I'm sure the people that work in those places the kids especially like 18 year olds are going to slack off they don't see it you know they're not go to the hospital hold on don't don't scroll down yet there's a lot more we messed go back up so yeah so we're at no cart golf hiking trails paths allowing distancing how is it okay when you're running because if you're running pass through the walking is going to come in time when you're right there is that alright I don't know this is very bizarre dealing with multiple different diseases to trails open I thought there was still close are they opening those up open them up again will find that out next board home household members only can't meet up with other people that aren't sick by quad biking rock climbing roller skating roller blading it's weird we're asking people to be extra super responsible with this right but we we don't ask the same thing about car accidents. Go back soft martial arts what do that tai chi chi Kung what's Chi Kung is it like a breathing exercise I pretty sure and you know what time she is it's almost like a series of rhythmic movements soft martial art such a weird definition and not in group statistics so specific like if a person wants to go outside and they have a Shadow Boxing routine they doing they like to practice Muay Thai why can't they go practice more time they can't just go outside like imagine like your apartment and you can go on the beach and just like spark up a little and just throw some combinations Under the Sun this and you can't do that is that threatening to people why but you're allowed to do all this Jazz that's not even a martial art was just be honest it's great people that do it they find it very therapeutic and get to the body you know you're doing these slow poses so it gives you your exercising control over your body that's not really a martial art not weird so what is it you know I'm saying like you're not going to fight with Tai Chi I've never heard that terminology before is there such thing as soft and hard martial arts would say that Tai Chi is a soft martial art they would I guess they would kind of suck but it just doesn't make sense to me it's not a martial art martial art of something that you would use in a fight if you are trying to have a thing with there's rules to martial arts oh so you can stay lit boxing is just boxing how come you're not allowed to kick you or take you down like is that a full martial art right here somebody's up what better way to get integrated with the grid den-2 created virus that makes you wear a mask takes away Humanity can't touch each other. Stay away no social contact so you're getting more and more addicted to your TV in your phone more and more addicted to your laptop I'll free you but you got to take test and then I got to put a tracking thing on you cuz I want to make sure that you're a good boy Tony you're a good boy you don't go catch no covid-19 spreading it around so I got to know where you are so I could try it out the health of the public frightening who can't give that up folks five-stage reopening process based on risk from stage 1 safer at home order planning for Recovery stage 2 if you're about to go into that's not right low-risk businesses manufacturers office retail Essential Health Care outdoor recreation and libraries I thought we already said outdoor recreation there's a joke around about it before liking someone passes you when they're running like how close are they to you but it doesn't seem like there's any sort of science to say that it spread that way I know that's what I've read that and didn't think that was too too but I texted Brandon shop he said he got a ticket for being on that trail did it I don't know what the ticket was for but thank God they can open up LACMA and you can stare at a plexiglass box at some f****** d****** glued together and if that stage 3 separated Velvet Rope stage 3 high-risk business is body art massage bars nightclubs for Peppa Pig movie theaters in bowling alleys so we have to wait we have to wait for the next stage stage for hire wait a minute yeah like what is an entertainment venues at like that like a a large Arena people more like a concert account else Ohio's just passed a law they said to to change with the Department of Health is doing so that they're like over superseding the rules like and their Congress so I can only have 14 I don't know so well with California's doing like ultimately this way less people that got it here then got it anywhere else so it's probably a good idea but as a comedian that f****** sucks as a person who is not in the highest of risks its it sucks I know quite a few people that have had it and we're going to actually have Michael yo come on next week I'm really interested talk to him cuz he had a real bad and he got it from New York and then there's been some speculation that the people got it from New York they get it from Europe but the people that got it in California a lot of them got it from China which is really interesting cuz like I wonder if as it went through Europe it got worse I guess that's possible right and wasn't that something that they speculated that there's some sort of different strains yeah but we couldn't New York people just come to La easier from China but I think the one they tracked the origin think that's a reason I guess that's possible right and wasn't that something that they speculated that there's some sort of different strains yeah but we couldn't New York people just come to La easier from China but I think the one they tracked the origin think that's a reason

they say that she thinks the hardest they say that like like Alaska sheep hunting in terms of like just a difficulty of the terrain and the the dangers of it yeah. That somewhat yeah I would say the only been on a couple sheep hunting Alaska right most of the nwt you know what the weather is bad like to know the weather is pretty bad and then that the amount of pressure now and again I'm not an expert on Alaska the pressure is much worse than it's ever been in Alaska in terms of the amount of Hunter x Hunter I'll tell a true story okay I thought I quit calling him moose and I'm like looking and I'm like I think there's a moose come in a Grizzly pops out I'm like a get your camera let's call this thing in the true story actually made it sound like it was that login she stands up she's looking around and I'm going to call you can hear my shutter on a video f****** hit the ground it was coming and I might go in immediately me I've been charged enough to where I'm going to eat you can see my camera shifting right a little as I'm taking these photos I have a weapon at a bow and so here pretty quick I'm thinking to shoot this m*********** it's like 15 yards from us and fired off around its feet and I knew his gun jammed on the second round sometimes so I'm like and it came again NBC NBC in reality do you talk to bring up the little Lancaster's wrong with when I stayed in the nwt for that two months time frame those guys live up there I bet if you asked a Bart or a clay Lancaster how many times they've been blessed chard what's charge it's like triple digits like this this guy's deal with they've been doing it since birth right and so was telling them like like Amy and Frank I was like okay you guys know how much I've done and I was a different thing in a hundred how many animals are put on the ground it's a fraction Lancaster's been on 320 sheep hunts 320 That's not including Caribou moose he's been all over the world so the amount of experience where is because I know I just got to experience at two and a half months section of it we were literally from a light bulb from a paved Road hours for men electricity like it's a 12-hour drive to where the helicopter picks you up and then you're flown in another 2 hours

Lancaster's rhyme with when I stayed in the nwt for that two months time frame those guys live up there I bet if you asked a Bart or a clay Lancaster how many times they've been blessed charred what charge it's like triple digits like like Amy and Frank I was like okay you guys know how much I've done and all the different thing in a hunted how many animals are put on the ground it's a fraction Lancaster has been on 320 sheep hunts 320 That's not including Caribou Moos he's been all over the world so the amount of experience those guys have in the stories like when I get those guys on the podcast it's hilarious because I experience and a half months section of it we were little front from a light bulb from a paved Road hours for men electricity like it's a 12-hour Drive tour the helicopter picks you up and then you're flown in another 2 hours so when I got bit by that why it was funny it by that bus spider it was funny at work leg swelled up more draws circles around it too well the first couple circles right when that big of a deal so clay cuts it open listen to podcast diesel Arius cuz he squeeze that thing I've acted like it didn't hurt as I was going to pass out from f****** shock so squeeze the pus out yeah dangerous yeah but I don't think they're overly poisonous I think I was allergic to it but the moral of the story in 6 hours my legs locked up straight there was veins going up towards my heart and I had cold sweats heart rate was racing and place I could we got to get you out of your getting f****** die like we are a long long long ways from anywhere how far for our helicopter ride it wouldn't be good so I called my my buddy is a medic and eyesight dude what you would do and he's like I piss on it bleach ibuprofen f****** get some s*** yeah cuz I guess like bleach cleans everything out like he's giving me I can't memorize stuff how do you let your buddy Fionna so here's the thing one of my buddies wants to hurt a big Johnson cuz he was ready to pee on it right there and I like to pee on my leg and so you wouldn't want it right off the top somehow another letter if you pee in a bottle then pours it on you then pour that pee on you then pee on it I guess looking at it that way yeah I get it I feel like I'm right there with you understand your your thought process and then locked up in a quarter and circumference inches that's how much my legs swelled up we just duct tape towels around my calf muscle to go on moose hunts because it was so f****** painful when the infection was going down cuz of the Willows were beating it up and I'm like I really want to see can heart started racing like and I'm like hell you will die head veins going up my leg that is a pretty much sure thing you're going to f******. I don't want any antibiotics with you or anything when you go into a hunt like that I do what I go to Canada now cuz they're weird government I can't even say that I have friends that will prescribe them to me to take with me now last 18 remember my hands look like Deadpool's face from that milkweed or some s*** I was hooked what happened so I'm on that mule deer hunt and my hands are swelling up and I don't know why in a look like Deadpool's face and I'm like what the hell is wrong with my hands I'm looking around like what could be around me it's not Poison Ivy in my hands are swelling up like I knew that movie big trouble little China that does that and if you if you have a Google and you pull it up as f****** nasty but if you want to Google hogweed on certain humans it has this crazy rash inflammation so my hands it's affected by sunlight it's worse so I'm at 13000 feet and I'm on a spotter with my hands in the sun all day to a point like on Thursday in South 13003 the sun is way stronger perjury charges up your s*** twice as fast cuz you're that close to the Sun oh my God look at that giant hogweed look at the hands it wasn't good let me tell you so my hands look like those ones in the middle left they look like that so Frank comes over and he's like what the hell is wrong with your hand I'm like you know that's a good good question so we come out cuz I was bad and I go to the doctor right and I'm like you know I go to the emergency room and I'm like hey I just so I know did I said that stuff that's beautiful giant hogweed and it's toxic cousins wow that's crazy maybe so to mitigate that what are you do you wear gloves is there something you can put on your hands and I know it is out of the lake lake Cowichan perfect so just that we'd has like some sort of an oil or something like that they said the doc was an IV type deal yeah well it's funny cuz my buddy from Alaska what I think it is they Googled it just like we did they were like oh well that makes sense cuz they didn't know and then they gave me like a steroid cream to put on it and I don't want to wait a couple days Jesus Christ so between that and the bite what was worse all the bite the bite was that much work I could have kept hunting with that I just not knowing what it would have been in there 12 days Akiane and Frank's already got his dear we go back in and Frank I thought his appendix burst is it turns out he just ate too much Sushi and it got clogged up in the stomach with Frank is harder than woodpecker lips we get on this disease to Deer were trying to get and he's not getting out of the tent and Frank is not like that he's like with pulmonary edema he literally his lungs filled up with liquid and that's an altitude sickness for altitude sickness in 9 miles with pulmonary edema Jesus Christ when he got back he cough and was like empty in a water bottle so he's a tough individual so I'm like to this guy I even texted Amy on my K Rings f***** up I might I might have to hit the beacon like I may have to help so anyway I go over Yes dear, just sushi sushi in Denver the day before so I think what it happened we had starved ourselves for 12 days right dehydration and Hema in the woods in the woods we came out you know I took we all went out to dinner and I think he ate all that white rice and it just clung to his intestines like a woolly mammoth cuz it kind of just have to take a big poop right but right in the middle where you know your appendix is he's like it hurts right here and gallbladder issues I got an addict I passed a kidney stone like 6 miles in so I was like he had his appendix is a rough he's going to die back here and so is it show you how the meaning of moxie the Frank has he and filmy shooting that mule deer and he hobbled his ass over there after I shot in this f****** mile and a half from where he's classes in flagging me in and he just sat by the dire I'll get most of it you good and he's like yeah I'm okay I'm okay and I'm like I can tell you're not f****** okay like you're in pain and he made it out and then he can poop and everything is okay but they like really hurt out there trying to think the kidney stone that was a bad one either pissed that out of Horrible no mule deer night after I was but it was pretty high elevation but anyway went after this bowl and some like knocked loose in my kidney I didn't know what it was just all the sudden I had the shooting pain and I looked at that dude on The Green Mile trying to pee right then I'm like what the fuc what the hell is wrong with me but every time I tried to pee I literally would drop me to my knees and so I was like okay let's assess this and I'm I'm trying to think through should I take next to no gear and try and Hike out take enough gear to stay the night but then have the burden of the weight know what what's going to be the best option cuz I didn't have any service and I didn't have a because I didn't have anything back with me that I could get ahold of anyone and so I'm like bucket no guts no sorry I grabbed the Basic Essentials and hobbled my ass out and at one point I did have a phone by them service I texted my buddy Tony and said hey what is the nearest hospital to this Trailhead and I lost service and so all he knew was I'm f***** up so I get to the trailhead and I get my Jeep and I had a giant cheap and I'm doing like 90 down the road and I get pulled over well the cop was looking for me because my butt called and said I don't know what's going on with somebody will ectopic, dick right I get out and I'm like hey man he wanted to call an ambulance and I'm like lifted I just hiked at 6 miles I'm not paying $3,500 for a f****** ambulance ride I just hike 6 miles out I can make it to the hospital and so he was a little bit of a dick but he followed me into the hospital and I passed it little spiky little basket little spiky little basket

text you right when the Looting hits haha that's in people's perception the Second Amendment this is a good time for you again pretty sure your brother because you're out there beating the drums and sound the alarms and all these people that are anti 2nd Amendment people wear a lot of these m************ were lined up in California trying to buy a gun last minute because as soon as the lockdown people started getting really nervous when people start getting locked in their home and then people when they realized they weren't in a work people start to worry about people stealing and is things on those lines I heard about people getting carjacked and or or get their groceries Jack wrather where they're headed to the car from the grocery store things got real weird and then you saw these giant lines at these Allied gun stores and that's when I got a hold of you because I think it's very it's a really important conversation I think you're the best at explained from a very rational perspective that you know people during the times before covid-19 wallet my keys and put my gun on and go about my life and it's not much of a it's not much of an encumbrance on my life where it's like okay it's not worth the day-to-day of me carrying a firearm but if I ever needed it that's going to be the most important thing I have on me to protect that life so it's it's a small price to pay for something that has such a huge upside if it ever happened though your lawyer tell Junior really nice guy but you also love guns with what people are worried about is worst case scenario they're worried about someone who's a criminal who just wants to rob people has this ultimate power over folks and that's what everybody's worried about when it comes to guns so worried about a school shooter you know they're worried about a mass murderer they're worried about a guy who breaks into a mosque and so it's going to be put down after they're worried about and I totally get it once we move past that understanding until you know you have the best case scenario which point I was directly me so I can speak and then you have the worst case scenario where you have no criminals you have crazy people not you two things of that nature once you get out of that realm so let's talk about the reality because you know there's over last night so people are you going to come up with us and they said he was there said he was healthy no under no other health issues they said but then you read the article deeper turns out he had diabetes he had type 1 diabetes and he was 400 lb that's not no issues these articles are full of s*** and they write those articles just so that you click on them because they get the f****** ad revenue from clicks then so their incentivised trick you into being scared I got a 17 year old died what happened my seventeen-year-old can. Holyfuck and then you click on it and if you don't read you know six seven paragraphs into the article you don't find out if this is a 400-pound diabetic kid that you know would have died from the flu three months earlier would have been the same shift so the numbers are fudged so I don't know what to believe your numbers don't come to me with more Scare Tactics both numbers are spiking what you already said that 50% of the positives or false positive at least finally they're saying when they say the numbers are spiking I haven't heard the 50%. If you have 1% of whatever and we test it than 50 you know about half of the positive or false positive and then don't wear a mask and you have to wear masks the whole reason we have to flatten the curve is because you can live on anything for up to like nine days and even an asymptomatic person can still transmit it then it comes out that's it exactly opposite I like being scared to like f*** you God damn guess what happened right after the protest at least they're saying they're being forced into saying is probably connected to the the protest of course I miss you Auntie right now I really do this is a perfect time for you it's kind of crazy that you're not hosting that show anymore there's so many people doing that the 24-hour news cycle and how f****** redundant it is and how cyclical and at a certain point I was like I don't know what else to do with this and so I didn't want to stay just cuz I could I just done it long enough until I thought will let me just it was just time I felt like the audience needed a fresh perspective I needed a fresh perspective inspired you know I appreciate that you decided to go out at the literally at the very top but it seems like especially work right now like the John Oliver is killing it and Trevor Noah's doing your show and it's like this is this is that there's so much to mock it's almost like an overload and doing real commentary and politics today in my pit it's almost like you're doing commentary on pro wrestling like this is a rigged game and you're out here pretending like this s*** make sense this is the very same that Vince McMahon wrestling instructions you're going to say alright our show revolves around your the right you're from the left whatever comes in we're going to filter it through that we're going to keep it producible but it starts to like you say it becomes inauthentic but the same thing would happen to me sometimes with shows and and you would know you weren't necessarily feeling the outrage of something-or-other commentary was going to be a Sears deep as you my wife but you might kick it up a notch anyway cuz I always do not give in to the gravity of like what was expected Sears deep as you my wife but you might kick it up a notch anyway cuz I always do not give in to the gravity of like what was expected

2008 economic housing market tanks in the derivative mortgage things go down and the world economy grinds to a halt thousands people lose their job foreclosures all over the place so they can come in and they pump billions of dollars into the organizations that some to f****** ship in the first one that's where the money goes and I remember asking the treasury secretary at the time you know this is a mortgage question right cuz they the derivatives made it like the geometric pump so if they're bundling mortgages and 8% of those mortgages still underwater it sinks the derivative Market which is trillions of dollars just made those mortgages that were under water hole because don't you do that doesn't that fix your derivative problem don't you haven't you just made and plus then people get to keep their house and what he said to me was you can't do that because of moral hazard to moral hazard is a theory that you can incentivize bad behavior the people that took out mortgages on their homes that went underwater that's there so you can't bail them out because that would be sending a hazardous message morally about the economy so I said what's the moral hazard of then get making the people that actually blew up the economy whole again what's that how is that not moral hazard and he said the plane was on fire and we had to land you're rewarding them for that yeah yeah it's both sides of that argument I've heard the argument the know-nothings too-big-to-fail but it fell and then I've heard the argument that if it did feel fail would be so catastrophic but I'm saying it wouldn't have failed so it was a failure because they base of that okay so what's the 10% of the mortgage loan Under Water by you know so let's say you had a $20,000 mortgage and now the house is only worth $150,000 million dollars to AIG at the top to $50,000 to that mortgage bring it into line with its value suddenly that thing's not underwater anymore it's like putting ballast into a ship that's sinking the ship comes up rather than just saying seems to logical though that's kind of party what's the problem with all this small businesses that are going under because of the sanctions cuz everybody's been locked down rather if those people need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps it's a great example analogy sucks cuz like this nothing to do man you can't work there's nothing you like what do you want him to do there's no opportunity it's everything shut down if you go under at this time it's not your fault one of the rare times it's on the government right now. Something I could do this like that again like it seems like a simple solution which is like just suspend and extend and the next time you know what we're going to do a six-month suspend nobody is going to be the landlords need to be helped out that's where we'll focus will make sure that the landlords don't go under from having to pay too much in taxes or having to pay too much in repairing but attacked the problem at its core which is people's insecurities about their unemployed they have to still pay the rent in them or other built last take a big chunk of their not often times two people mortgage and rent is is one of the biggest not just f****** say like the wherewithal in a money everybody is like a chance to breathe just for a moment and give them some kind of rent real estate tax break or something the operating expensive it's almost like like your patient on a ventilator like let's just keep everybody a f****** live till we get past this moment cuz they keep saying we got hurt you know we got to reopen a time we are so I don't understand it seems simple and addresses like a real concern Grassroots off on the on the floor again you speak into logically I think it's it's just it's such a difficult time to politically because the ideas get segmented into left or right right like even the ideas of how to dress covid-19 would dress the economy how to address how to address all the delay everything becomes politicized and

you know we're trying to do this thing for veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan who gotten sick from Barn cats so in Iraq war and Afghanistan Mass waste to hazardous materials to computers everything they light it with jet fuel so now you got guys that are out be it's not being if they have to Advocate against unarmed so we're trying to put together working with this team Coalition Windward group she and people vs arms and groups like that to address this legislatively similar to what was done for the the 911 right so I thought cuz it's always about money to pay for what are the absolute fishing, two mile away consequences of what our veterans face when they come back right when they're when they're out of sight out of mind and so mighty was all these tears on Holabird all these groups in war so that when there is money they take care of what is the natural damage that's done to these people in the name of fighting for a country so that they do and their family yes not kinda very much so you know the UFC how to program back in the day where we were working with the Intrepid center for excellence to work with the traumatic brain injury patients and to raise money for them and we were doing this UFC fight for the troops to raise money for it and what got me sick was how is it that we have to do this I can't wipe that this isn't something that's taken care of the budget clearly in advance you're blowing people up and you're you you're not preparing for people to come back injured you're sending young Brave women and men to die for their country or or risk severe brain damage and you don't have enough money set aside to treat them when they return them like that's insane everybody thinks so related so you can even sleeping next to an open-air burn pit where we work with his wife and we were literally like wouldn't be in front of the Texas Supreme Court Yanceyville absolute intention to deny Healthcare and it goes all the way back to Desert Storm you remember Amber the whole Vietnam us a government over agent orange bright and still being denied yeah but yeah it's crazy and the depleted radiation sickness that people are getting from the Iraq War and then the guys that went you know that irradiated tar on their boots and they can't get you know there's blue water ride there's I'm telling you like every or inevitably and they're always told the same thing and we don't have the science yet these people and help the other jet fuel burn the Trade Centers another excellent example for First Responders right that were terribly sickened and many many of them died because of the fumes and then people in the surrounding areas in fact Donna Summers died of lung cancer and she lived near there yeah those guys develop the pile cop like a day into the search-and-rescue but and they kept trying to tell him that a person was in his head and then it wasn't it nothing to do with where you were and and working on the pile in 9/11 and then they tried to say like it's from snorting drugs you know everything you can possibly imagine from a pulverized building asbestos rhinestone cyanide like it was an utter disaster and and they just keep fighting people and they're doing the same thing to these veterans now and it's I think along the same lines were talking about reform of the police department there has to be some reform of the healthcare system that deals with veterans because it seems to be just as long history of doing it a certain way to save the most money possible and that the idea that these guys are sacrificial anyway you know they're sending them off to potentially die if they come back alive we you know we do our vet they do their very best to not treat them and to not spend anymore it's sick it's amazing we have so many guys are still patriotic it still want to go and do this considering the fact they're treated so poorly when they returned and they lose you know this is being in the military is isolating in the first place remove from your unit that's even further isolating you know if you're worried about your future your family's future and in that moment when you when that's when the government should step in and go amen you fulfilled your service to us you should feel that confident we will fulfill that Covenant to you and we will send that that you will do the right thing right and they do the job and you do Wonder like how has this system I'm so corrupt and corroded that we can't anymore as a people do the right thing do the right puppy out of that I would get here how you do Wonder like how has this system become so corrupt and corroded that we can't anymore as a people do the right thing do the right puppy out of that I would get here

he's got to be more emphasis on testing and there's got to be more emphasis on showing people how to keep their immune system healthy and then recognizing people that can't do that and doing what we can to protect them. do you know anybody yelling at me but also do when you get tested all the time to find out what our greatest bar I love him he's so funny I almost love you more like a video of like a great drummer that he loves so yeah yeah great. I love getting warmed up that's what I was doing with the whole mask thing and I was like really arguing you shouldn't wear a mask for your a b**** God it's but that's also the problem with sound bites on Twitter but I can't complain about it because that's part of the game it's part of the game it's what I do I say the movie with Mel Gibson where he knows what women what women think because there's a lot of mentally unwell people that spend their entire day camp down on Twitter having argument and if you want to venture into world and risk your Consciousness in your health your met your literal mental health by communicating in this really crude manner with text messages and you know arguing over semantics of people that you don't even know it's a terrible way to exist are you on read it on Instagram they go to Twitter occasional post things on Twitter but I don't read it get it you know what I know when I f***** up and I know when people are mad at me when it's legit invalid and I know when they're mad at me for nonsense and I I'm my worst self critic so I don't need other people yelling at me I know what I did wrong I say clear healthy I think that's the only approach you can have you know yeah sometimes you can't do it but yeah there's value in criticism it's very important but not too much it's like anything else like you this value in a little bit of snake venom you develop a tolerance but if you get a big fat dose you're dead and in many ways that the same with interacting with people that are upset with you is going to be with people that are upset with everybody for no reason no matter what the story is in the news even if it's clear-cut to you and I was going to be someone who has a violent opposition to that idea it doesn't mean it doesn't mean you're right it just means people have a lot of different f****** ways of looking at the world and if you want to exist in conflict in perpetuity stay on Twitter and stay on Twitter all day long and just argue with people I don't want to do that you know and again it's not that I don't have any room for improvement it's not that I don't appreciate her accept or recognize the value of criticism cuz I definitely do it's that it's not healthy it's not healthy for me it's not it'll take you directly affect the kind of contents I put out it's not good that's what I feel like one of the hardest thing to do is to maintain your kind of creative barometer so that you don't let those kinds of things when you feel like you're not constructive pull you too far to the outrage world or some other things like to maintain that and that's why because that you do feels like at least from my perspective the healthiest form yeah but even that case people will take long form added things out of context and then it becomes the same problem that we have a Twitter with everything else you get these little sound bites there's a little video clips and you don't understand the full context of the conversation or what the what was actually said and then people get outraged that it's we are living in a very strange time and I believe it's an adolescent stage of communication and I think it's going to give it our frustrations for this are going to give birth to a better form and I think one of things at podcast what it would it's in response to the popularity of the long form is in response to people being upset with like these a traditional late night talk show things where there's a window here with one guy in the right and window here with gonal-f and his personal Center in the yelling at each other and he cut to Commercial and you don't read set with like these traditional late night talk show things where there's a window here with one guy on the right and window here with a guy and left and it's person the center and they yelled at each other and he cut to Commercial and you don't really feel like things got resolved so the response to that where people gravitate it's 3 Theater yeah

I miss you I miss you on TV right now I really do this is a perfect time for you it's kind of crazy that you're not hosting that show anymore but there's so many people doing that reply to that Rhythm of the 24-hour news cycle right and how f****** redundant it is and how cyclical and at a certain point I was like I don't know what else to do with this and so I didn't want to stay just cuz I could I just done it long enough and thought I'll go let me just it was just time I thought like the audience needed not yet been then inspired you know I appreciate that you decided to go out at the literally at the very top but it seems like especially like right now like John Oliver's killing it and Trevor Noah's doing your show and it's like this is this is that there's so much to mock it's almost like an overload and do real commentary and politics today in my it's almost like you're doing commentary pro wrestling like this is a rigged game and you're on here pretending like this s*** make sense is the very same that Vince McMahon you're going to go with kind of a boilerplate structure so you're going to say RAR show revolves around your the right you're from the left whatever comes in we're going to filter it through that we're going to keep it reducible but it starts to like you say it becomes that that the commentary was going to be a spice years deep as you might want but you might kick it up a notch anyway cuz it was informative the gravity of like what was expect but really like if you're doing The Daily Show right now like we really are in a legitimately trouble time I guess it's all your trouble time of 10 years ago or eight years ago this is a real trouble time when you walk away from something I think you're kind of nostalgic about how you know while I was there and Charleston happened when I was hosting that show Ferguson happen the Iraq War happened 9/11 happened like cheeses were always and you started to feel like you were expecting just say something profound about it that you didn't really have that Inuit X or just that's a bar that was Bianca know you really did just want to help your staff get through it more than than everything else and so these events would come up and the weight of feeling like you had to say something meaningful in that moment for people status the role that either they had let you know that you had in their lives where that the show kind of took on Uno became a difficult to navigate because the s*** is so cyclical like like all I could do was stare into the camera and just Express sadness and help against grow stronger and kind of collapse on top I think people began to look at the show like it was supposed to change them and and that's a hard that's a hard place to be for for a comedy show you like it but I'm certain point about your job I think it I think people began to look at the show like it was supposed to change them and and that's a hard that's a hard place to be for for a comedy show

who did the episodes on the game changers and you know nutrition is also like Diet is such an important part of what we do to ourselves that we don't where daughter lack of access to it highlighted the vulnerabilities both in our economic system and in our health system like the way we are as human beings of what who who's vulnerable to give these people people diabetes older folks mean it it highlights all these issues where you don't we we really need to concentrate on for the future if you want more people to survive this there is there are strategies that can be implemented and we really really need to talk to people about just being a normal stuff being dehydrated being well hydrated making sure you're not dehydrated well-rested teach me for meditation techniques is not hard to learn some breathing exercises that have been actually proven to increase your immune function hard to teach people about vitamin D and and supplementing if you can't go outside so how do you get people then remember like a car it's like hierarchy of needs you know how do you how do you work into the idea that those types of theories are actually important to the betterment of like in the stability of the larger part of the rack when they're fighting so hard just to stay afloat and told by people who are doing it successfully so people that are doing it that like maybe were struggling with their immune system and turned it around and got healthier like those people are the ones that the people that are in a bad position right now they really respond to when it comes to Olivia's an emotional connection with see if you see some guys in the cover of Men's Health Magazine he's ripped and starts talking about Fitness so I get the f*** out of here I can't relate to you I'm never going to look like that but if you see someone who is in this the situation that you're in currently and they turned it around not me but listen every working out my whole life I've never stopped for kids but if someone is fat I'm talking from their perspective and they see some guy who's really thin and chiseled then it's not going to make sense to them that they could ever be like that but if they see someone is a lot of really fantastic photos and and and Instagram and Facebook pages online will you get inspiration from someone who actually start to a diet actually start to an exercise routine and then speaks really well about watching improve the way they feel their emotions their depression all the aspects of their life and that's I think one of them are like David Goggins is a great example. I use them all the time because he's this incredibly inspirational guy who was is a Navy SEAL and it one point x 300 pounds is drinking milkshake and you put those pictures of himself on Instagram all the time just to let people know hey I'm not some alien I'm a person who is weak just like you I was lazy I got fat and then I feel how to train my mind to be disciplined that I'd figured out how to be happier and I think that that's really important for people to see that it's not in the static State we're all in a constant state of improvement and grills hopefully or deterioration if you're not careful you know the thing that I worry about those sometimes is similarly to economic distress does it make a person's he'll be a function of there or she does it change something that is beyond a lot of people's control that isn't that a little bit of like a man if you just pull your pants up you could do it like this and I can show you how I did it and maybe you can do it too that's what it is we don't have to look at every success has somehow another thumbing in the face of people who can't achieve a similar goal but there are enough people out there that can that we should concentrate on that because I think it'll have a significant Improvement on the overall health of us again as a community and I think this is really how we have to look at the the the United States and human beings on Earth in general we have to look at each other as a bunch of people that could very well be neighbors we're coming we're community and if you're my friend and you were fat and you were willing to listen and I used to be fat too and I can tell you he man this is what I did I stop drinking soda people that are understand the point they're in and I'm I'm an advocate for plant-based up I think that's the healthy way to do it but obviously eating is such a personal experience that I hesitate to ever impart that it in any other way but I just feel like sometimes for people it's almost more debilitating for that mentality of this is how you doing just got to and and go to this way I do think you have to present more options but know that it's maybe more complicated and people can be overweight or whatever and be healthy it's not necessarily you know something that's corrosive to them but it is healthy than being at an optimal weight that's what's important it gives you some sort what did that burden is sustainable is debatable maybe for some people it is for some people it isn't but some people can smoke until they're 90 and they're fine other people get pancreatic cancer like Hicks and die in their thirties it it it depends wildly on the person but the idea that you can be fat and you can be healthy I think is a dangerous narrative cuz you're telling people listen don't improve you don't have to you can be healthy and being obese the same time but the Met science does not really support that the more weight you lose up to a certain point you know but when you if you get to a healthy body mass your body works better it's really simple it doesn't tax your immune system is but doesn't text your heart is much it's better for you it's better for your joints it doesn't mean that we should ignore people that are overweight and you know when pretend that you know that they're they're not worthy or they're not not good folks I have a very emotional day because I feel protective nice over people and I I just yeah I think it's great it's a good thing though it is it's the reason why you're thinking like this we're talking about people doing well and you are morbidly obese and they don't want to listen and there's nothing I can do I just hug him when I see him and you know I hope that one day they come to grips with it and they change but they don't have to you know you you live this life for certain amount of time if you want to live it eating cake and drinking beer that's you you do whatever you want bro on the end in the end we're all going to be in the ground it's all pointless turn it around and in a very fatalistic all of a sudden the end in the end we're all dying that's how the story ends were all dead so the the story what I don't want people to do is suffer and I want people to feel better while they're alive I think that's something that's missed in the message of Health Improvement that you are actually have a better experience on Earth and it'll help you mitigate stress it'll help you and help you have better relationships because you won't be burdened down with a lot of like Friday and strapped it literally comes from a physical release of energy I look at the body like a battery and I think that some people's batteries just overflowing with corrosive material because they never exhibited the never blow it out a battery a battery is a bad analogy but there's there's a certain amount of physical requirement I think your body has to has and if you don't give that that body that physical exertion it doesn't feel good where we've evolved to hunt and gather and build homes and survive survive from predators and we'd carry around all the burdens in our body of this past and there's no getting around that and you can either deny it and just deal with all the attention or you can exert your energy find some way to calm your mind and live a life that's better

let me ask you a question that cuz now this is I'm wondering cuz you're talking about sort of evolving to a place where you buy and like when you had James on and he was talking about but a moral qualms about me for do you not like you said both things there's a health issue deer is a moral qualms with factory farming does not call Quan Quan with help with hunting cuz I know the reality of the life of a deer if you don't kill that deer it's going to die a horrible death from a wolf or a coyote or mountain lion or whatever the f*** gets ahold of it it's got freeze to death it's going you can either die quickly by the hand of a person you will respect that life and will nurture your body and the bodies of your family our problem is a disconnection more than anything and let me tell you something Linda Corbett lockdown happen I got more requests from friends and more information about hunting and gun ownership how do I protect myself and how do I feed myself and how do I grow food those were three really big questions that I kept getting from people such a different perspective on it in terms of just the the relationship between myself and I didn't either did you go cheap and things like that and it became untenable for me to make that decision you know that that sort of that decision of ice think you'll be better off if I kill you and then it became it was something I could no longer manage once I knew the process of it and that it was a hard very hard process it's only been about 4 or 5 years how is your health I mean I'm an old Jew so Baseline pretty much we don't age well to begin with you know if you look at markers like cholesterol or blood pressure those things it's better but like you said it I don't I don't know enough about how the body processes to know if I'm I feel better the numbers say I'm better but you know genetics get into custom and once your gut biome changes you know you really get accustomed to whatever you're eating good or bad unfortunately that's one of the reasons why people have such a hard time quitting sugar and bread and Pasta & Things along those lines your body just crazy that's what it wants me to start eating healthier food your body does drink that go off and still the world is certainly not it's not built for that and it certainly feels a little bit of an area where rain if you have to do and I also think emotional top for me but I I always say like but it's such a personal and individual Choice than you everybody's got to do for themselves you know we saw many antibiotics trying to educate yourself how your meal gets your table I think that's very wise of you and I think that is a lot of people that share your position on animal death and I think that's one of more promising aspects of laboratory created meat as long as it can be done in a way that's actually going to be healthy for us it seems like there's some real science behind that and they're very very close to releasing that a large-scale so it'll be actual meat that doesn't come with death which is really fascinating $10 for a chicken breast at one point in time but they've gotten it down to a burger now like they can actually make a burger out of this stuff and they feel like asking if this technology improves they essentially flash when it's not if you could still have the part of me that you like what's the difference between a dad and a hunting there's there's a conservation aspect of it one thing that leads to protection of wildlife habitat is actually the money that comes from hunting tags and hunting equipment there's that there's also the the type of relationship you have with your food when you actually work very hard and hunt it and kill it is very different than buying food from a store and I would say similar not going to send me away growing when you go to Whole Food sometimes you really got to stop that you know there's that's a micro micro form of what it feels like to hunt an animal and then eat it and feed your family for unify shutan I eat it literally for a year so one animal death equals like a year of my meals and you know there's also the moral high-ground position you know I think a lot of people love to look at the moral High Ground of eating vegetables and only eating vegetables as being a superior way to live their life and that's that's a good decision I understand where you coming from I understand that there's people that look at life very differently the meat that maybe don't have the sort of fatalistic perspective even though it's respectful have a very fatalistic perspective when it comes to just all organic organisms competing for resources and for life these animals I mean I've run into them when they killed each other I've seen animals that have been taken out by other animals have come across their body torn apart by wolves in the in the woods it's a wild wild thing out there man and I think we're so insulated by it in the in our culture of today that is one of the reasons why veganism and all these things are becoming so attractive I would hope that along with that we're going to be nicer to each other that we're going to be we're going to grow to be a Kinder human race I really, really hope that Boston to reply to replies the wind but I never really asked ride like individuality to them and I think that was the change for me was interacting in in individual way to farm on the farm to what I wanted it to be with Adam and it it it just made it untenable in that moment for me but I truly understand like that that is in a really individualized personalized experience that the that I made and like I said I would love it for people to make that connection cuz I think it's profound there is there is something about directions for people that when they do she had you know that's why I'll talk about the pigs and I'll be like Estacada because we give them food and we kind of remove the the natural fear that they would have any you know eyeball facing forward Predator which is what we are like you can't believe the fragility of factory farmed animals like they are to be like pneumonia like genetically the design to gain too much weight for their leg it really is you know the Island of Misfit to like Dave Dave genetically modified or done whatever they've done and and the health of these animals that are in our food supply you're eating an animal that's a wild animal you're getting an athlete I mean they're they're sinewy in thick and they're strong and they survived and there's so much more nutrient-dense when you're when you're talking about Factory farmed animals you talking about I mean what will Factory farmed animals is the worst version of what human beings are capable of they were capable of ignoring suffering to the point we lock them all and warehouses they're pissed goes down in a tunnel and feels a small Lake up and flown over these places with drones horrific writes the pig farms in particular their horrific but when you're talking about what you're doing on your phone of course you can eat those things there your pets there would be that mean you're naming them and feeding them and touching them by extrapolate that I think I extrapolate to the Animal Kingdom in a way a different matter I feel like because of my wife and she's been she's kinda smarter version of me so because of her kind of showing me that relationship and experiencing myself like it's just change the way that I view it I feel like because of my wife and she's been she's a much time to her smarter version of me so because of her kind of showing you that relationship and experiencing myself like it's just change the way that I view it

seems like trying to enact change is so difficult that when actual change happens is one of the reasons why it happens in such a big way it's like there's so many people bounding at the wall and pounding at this wall that when boomed when the George Floyd protest broke through then all the sudden it's we've got real change and this is feeling of change and of chaos that is also representative of the fact that it takes so long. cultural Battleship it's like to actually get a real turn it's so hard that's so everything stays the same no matter how mad people get even at that point that's still the easy part like it's not going to get it fixed by HBO Max Going Gone With the Wind like when you pull a movie nobody was planning on watching on a streaming service nobody can find symbolic stage doing the s*** that is symbolic when and this is where leadership become such a crucial component so you have this Great Awakening of energy it has to be channeled into something lasting and meaningful and we have to diagnose the real problem underlying this moment so that we don't make a mistake and just changing the window dressing and and the guy on the building's yeah like this has to be this has to be foundational in a way that will create something lasting and that's that's the hard part it seems like the shift is big enough that something's going to happen in that regard it just seems like this shift is nothing like anything we've ever seen in our lifetime and it's worldwide which is really crazy like the George Floyd death sparked all these protests worldwide which is really never happened before with anything really is taken America just seems like there's also a lot of frustration during the bailout. Of of the Cove in crisis that all these corporations are getting so much money the people got one $1,200 check and then then there was no more talk and it just you don't know where the money you know there's really no accountability this horrible crime and murder spark something but what's underlying that is not just the racial inequality Dunedin equities but this whole idea of we build our society economically for the top down essential workers who are the ones that are the fabric of our society and cultivate cheap the the wheels turning and the trains running like who are those people will it turns out there the most poorly compensated people in our society the Paradigm for some reason since the 80s tour class has gotten the break and working has got minimum value were while overvaluing investment is such a good point I don't think we can have the structural change into more than not having your health insurance tied to your job but in your life are you hear that if I can get a chance I go for something if I try and change my lot in life my kids will no longer be covered by it like all the things that we built up to except I think we have to turn it over and it has to leave more people should be able to have like a dinner you you should be able to work a job and not before you go to work and not need food that's where we fought we stand found out that what the essential workers are right people who work at supermarkets people build homes like all all these is stencil job I'm in f****** danger when I go out and Yeah welcome to being down range like in a lot of ways to what a great vast majority of the world faces in terms of having wise and yeah you know that's what it feels like when you're in a war but I signed up for that but like a grocery store more than I need to protect my life and maybe the help my family really did highlight what's essential that which is good specs your point about this idea of income equality like people will balk at that like hey this is a game if you want to figure it out figure out how to make more money invest and do this and become a banker and you f***** up and you want to be an artist or you f***** up and he wanted to be a carpenter you should have been you know whatever but what they don't understand or don't consider is when it hits the fan like it did with the Kobe crisis recognize like he all that stuff is nonsense if someone doesn't take out the garbage all that stuff is nonsense if you don't have health care all that stuff is not none of that money means anything if the fabric of society deteriorate to a point where literally everybody has to stay in their home and you can't work and that's what happened and it really flipped the whole thing on his head because we we had consider survival we had to really consider survival instead of just existence we were saying oh my God we have to protect our cells from this viral viral attack and what it makes you realize is how much money it takes to Antioch to the American way of life what I mean by that is like behind the 8-ball for the rest of your life now think about you know black people not being able to build equity and well through generations you know government policy that excluded them from your from whether it's the Homestead Act and the federal housing Administration for the GI Bill government interventions socialism if she will entitlements if you were made to help white families build right over why do people were explicitly excluded from that so bad that on top of the amount of money that you went and you start to see the hole that we've dug for people now and if we don't address that whole I don't care how many bucking comedy sketches we pull and how many things don't like we were not doing anyting yeah we haven't addressed the whole that exist from being a hundred fifty years removed from slavery blink in time it's nothing and how crazy is it that like and you always I always hear it from like the but people don't like George Floyd thing and I was terrible really rocking Jim Crow like those things aren't there they're not memorials to the dead their hagiography to a war over slavery like when we Shot the movie Down Salman so I would think they would say like does it say that this is great man like of course people are going to pull them down cuz they've been begging for us to do something about it for a hundred years it's also the origins of those a lot of those statues were actually put up during the Civil Rights Movement and their cheaply-made they were put up as a middle finger to the Civil Rights Movement white there has to be a process and I always think about like what South Africa has to be a painful lead process that allows us to I still think to this day and I don't know how your experience I still think there's a large sloth of white people and black people for not being able to get out of this hole that we put them in or that the government put them in but they think it's a problem of culture and virtue like if they would just pull his pants up and talk different you know they would have such a perspective that you don't have anyone who think like that doesn't understand how human beings develop and grow if you have someone it's widespread I would say it's a dangerous narrative whenever you blame people for their if their circumstances are grossly out of their control and really severely limit their progress and that exists also for if you want to talk about coal mining populations in the same s*** it's people that we don't all start out at the same starting block so all you pull yourself up by your own bootstraps motherfukers you're lucky you have arms okay there's people out there born with no arms like we should all be thinking of ourselves in this country as a community not as a bunch of people in patient with each other we're all piling our money together every year we throw our taxes into the mix of try to take care of the infrastructure and the government and the housing and other all the different things you get paid for by our taxes where Community man and we not thinking like a community was thinking like a bunch of people that don't want other people to have the same shot in life that's his yeah conflict between when you would consider like that the more nativist wing of American politics and then the more Progressive sign is this idea of resource guarding let's all get together and the project of this next generation is to build a stronger Foundation a granite bearing for everyone to stand on so that there's a few people standing on Mount Everest and everybody else is in sand man isn't the way that we run the society and and think of these programs not as entitlements but investments in the mean in Dignity of work s*** start building at up will food stamps and welfare start to go away building something more substantial we built a great middle class in the 50s the wifey we have to do the same now for the country and and and also reassure you know people who are resentful of that but they're not being left behind either that nobody is saying and your lives are f****** cake can I change your life that much either man this this mentality that all Bernie Sanders when I was a supporter of Bernie Sanders when he was running I got pushed back from people that we like so you want to give your hard-earned money more of it away to the government and you think the government's going to solve this my perspective was if you just looked at it this way if you could give was just crazy if you could give 25% more money to taxes but the world would be 50% better get what you want I understand the people check the check I understand but if people like me people that earn a good amount of money or the ones going to be hit the hardest if you wanted a better world wouldn't you be willing to invest some of your money into that better world if that money goes to making sure that no one has to do this in the future and that we develop this better be better communities needs places that have been f***** for decades want that you want a better world for your children you want to know what to say but we wanted to die with all this money in the bank like it's crazy Theory so every ministration comes and he's going to stimulate the economy they all do it we don't have a free market the FED right now is driving so much money into stocks you are driving everything away from bonds and and savings so that the stock market which for some reason to look at like a pulse oximeter of the nation it's not it's no 800 Dallas today like we've come to look at it like it's our temperature yeah so everybody they're investor well do not as well about trillions of dollars of stimulus right that are just going to that same. Take those trillion dollars and less invest less stimulate the economy but not from up there and f****** Marshall plan our country and and build it so that it's so that it's 30 on the lads you know you know you're a fighter sturdy on the rag if you're not still going to Legend nothing might ideas we should get Dick Cheney involved and we should hire Halliburton to fix up the inner cities like a did all the places we bombed in Iraq

open the chat situation is there doing exactly was talking about it with holding on the war of the other day they're doing exactly the same thing to get mad at when they take about a country they put up walls they have borders they have police enforcement they beat the f*** out of people there's been murders inside it's not all Kumbaya you know it's like you just made a shity or smaller version of a city of course you did Albuquerque delay in there's a thing that happens when a lot of these protesters get acquainted with progress right with her it's antifa or any like you know real Marxist left-wing Progressive socialist movement they have good intentions right and they get lumped in with the idea of progress so people let them get away with stuff they seemingly loud to their Justice program most brilliant move ever are you think you can do better so you have kids right when you kids like good luck week I just don't understand how that happen just let it go I think it's a good publicity stunt if you talk to be my friend Rob Wolfe reached out to me because some folks from the Seattle Police Department reached out to him to try to get their message out to try to figure it out and the sense that they were saying that the media is not telling the true story and the true story is every time like the media will show them tear gassing people did they don't say that they had set up boundaries and they said yes they are the precinct got to stay out of this area you guys can't just invade and every time they put up these boundaries they would push through and vile and then they had to use tear gas leaf Defender position in any event we had to give up the whole Precinct to give up like six blocks and they don't feel like there's a lot of support for their position in the news and they also don't feel like they're they're being given the freedom to defend it properly like they'd the really couldn't had to get out of there that's why they took that's why those people took it that's why it's still locked down today in the mayor's been saying lately it's time to go home now but the mayor before gave a f*** to answer of it like saying that to protest. He's been great maybe this is the summer love like okay good luck lady like these ideas to get connected with progress right so those people who really want better right they're angry that George Floyd got murdered but we all are every normal rational person angry they all want to f****** see change but we all do but they decided to see change and six blocks of Seattle that has nothing to do with George for this took over and they took over these building so they basically did what coin does did they came and took over but they didn't they did with Trump did they put up a wall and then they did with us constantly beat the f*** out of people I mean they did they ruined their own idea within a couple of weeks so it really was like Seattle just gone cuz you can't even get people out of San Francisco they basically taken over Portland Portland filled with tents San Francisco's nuts man it's nuts you drive down the cedar stump some neighborhoods in San Francisco and there's five pence in front of the house is this what would you do if there was three tents in front of your house because in the yard and he's right there and you have this little little tiny patch of grass where kids can play and you kid runs into a heroin needle if someone checked over the fence but we have to be Progressive we have to be night way to go knock on the 10 hey man you can't I retain her gets f*** out actually won't you're going to get the f*** out here to get f****** got to go later you got to go see I think somebody else funded that I need that was a big joke I think that wasn't going to be something I don't know probably somebody in the Deep state or whatever the guys that found all the other stuff that goes crazy right does that money go around who gets it blindly believe any of these narratives anymore its just beyond to me

now he's standing like a it was super necessarily I say that became like a big #super necessary hilarious game you can't play your b******* for sure nonsense and hurt game if everybody's pick in the a gimmick or whatever they try to push there was trying to be Connor why not be yourself who's f****** late yeah meme Edwards Edwards is a slick Striker especially back then that was Yves Edwards when he's Edwards was arguably the best hundred 55 lb in the world that was actually knocked out Josh Thompson that highlight reel where he throws that that round kick off living back then before the first cat ever stop Nate Wright has good as it gets you know it when you see that fight me that was two guys easily could have done the same to each other and just tired it played out that way disheartening but they were hemorrhaging money man this is all pre Ultimate Fighter didn't know what they were doing in terms of like the future they would feel alright yet a million dollars in the hole in this cage fighting shitt August is is too brutal for America that I'm really into it but then they figured it out the ultimate fighter show they finance the whole show paid for all of it pay for the whole thing paid to be on the network and then boom that one final fight with Forrest Griffin and Stephan bonnar and these two crazy Fox are beating the s*** out of each other and it is a wild melee of a fight and then the viewership just keeps going up during the fight Millions is the people watched during the fight like tuned in extra people tuned in because people calling a friend like bro you got to watch this is nuts even know what it was like what is this little gloves on what is happening here before the fans of UFC or cage fighting or whatever but they didn't really get to know who Chuck Liddell was that once you get to know those people with Ultimate Fighter was when you saw this insane fight is going to play. Better to do those reality show fun reality show to watch instead of the bring it back by the way Paulo Costa and Israel adesanya adesanya oh really really holyshit Batman

tocovid and then the George Floyd protesting in the riots and looting everything it really highlights how fragile are our civilization is really really shows everybody and how easily we are controlled to the media easily were controlled like it's you just getting brainwashed and once you realize you just being brainwashed like you just control how you feel about everything that controlling you hate this guy change the channel black eyes good guy this guy's Buck this guy and it's all misinformation The Who and fauci one day that don't do math you don't even ask the next day or you need mask Como needs 50,000 respiratory ventilator is and put them all in the nursing homes and all the news people died but let's not talk about that like why we incentivising are even going to the men why are we incentivizing hospitals to say that they were covered us what is the purpose of that it makes no sense and they required more like financially it's more difficult to treat those people that they allocated more money towards people that had Kobe beef bottom Ark Des as cold as people to get shot really quiet covid-19 died but did they testing recovered lot of them are just words are there in the numbers come out too so the idea is that it could even possibly bounce-it-out they don't know but there are a lot of people that have liked their here's a deceptive one that I've read it was really f*****-up they were talking about this kid who was I think you 17 who died from covid-19 never said he was healthy no under no other health issues they said but then you read the article deeper turns out he had diabetes he had type 1 diabetes and he was 400 lb that's not no issues these articles are full of s*** and they write those articles just so that you click on them because they get the f****** ad revenue from clicks then so their incentivize to trick you into being scared 17 year old died what happened my seventeen-year-old can. Holyfuck and then you click on it and if you don't read you know six seven paragraphs into the article you don't find out if this is a 400-pound diabetic kid that you know would have died from the flu three months earlier would have been the same s*** you know so the numbers are fudged so I don't know what to believe your numbers don't come to me with more Scare Tactics Bowie do numbers are spiking what you already said that 50% of the positive or false positive Willy's finally they're saying when they said their numbers are spiking I haven't heard the 50% at fault video that was the chick that is with fauci that other one if you have 1% of whatever and we test it and 50 you know about half of the positive or false positive and then I don't wear a mask and you have to wear masks they said the whole reason we have to flatten the curve is because you can live on anything for up to like nine days and even an asymptomatic person can still transmit it then it comes out this exact opposite all the time goddamn mask love it but who's going to protect your family me and the spikes guess what happened right after the protest at least they're saying that now at least they're saying they're being forced into saying is probably connected to the the protest of course or it's just one more way to get them back are them to stop revolting with schisms as get them chill out and get you now the numbers are spiking guys yet willing to come in before before the election I got to do something I got to figure this out all been approved by the governor everybody's you know distanced six feet apart they all maintain social distancing during the show they wear masks during the show how long it was doing this of the Austin protest you seen it it's crazy you know Austin which is the most Progressive city in Texas had this insane protests which listen I think is great I do I think it's great that people want to show solidarity that people want to to get out there and and let everybody know that they're they're not down with police brutality and that their there they're down with Racial equality and that you got all these thousands and thousands of people together to have the same positive message I love it however that covid-19 f****** people but one thing they have found out if you guys if you guys going to protest protest during the day and this is why there's been a new study that came out that said that covid-19 dies almost instantly in contact with sunlight like 2 months ago and everyone thought he was crazy the nighttime is just as dangerous in the summer it is as it is during the day it's not heat temperature issue I'm sure some temperature kills it to do this thing is not real bro this is not real bro it's not real it is a f****** flu from a flu every year and die I think it's a bad thing I don't think that all of this nonsense is going on and they keep keep perpetuating and keep perpetuating keep fluctuating ass come on I just not buying anymore I just you guys you change your your views and change your opinions it's like it's like if you were the writer of a TV show safe friends your job would be the right a 30-minute episode that was funny and intriguing and dramatic and f****** scary or whatever the f*** and the media just writes an episode and then the next day they look right in so to write a new episode might change their s*** have analyzed the actual virus itself and they find all sorts of problems with this virus I had Bret Weinstein on the podcast of the day he's a professor a legit biologist and He was discussing all of the indicators in the virus that seem to point to the fact this is probably been leaked from a lab and explained it in terms of the way viruses evolve imma do a terrible job of paraphrasing it cuz I'm more on it and he's brilliant but when he's sitting in the long run what he's basically saying is this is a very legit virus is very complicated because of the fact it's been f***** with because this is not a virus like you know like a regular cold or like anything else that we've encountered before this is something that's really complicated and may have evolved because it came from a lab his perspective is it may have evolved to transmit better indoors and it's very vulnerable to UV light which I also might be part of you know it being from a lab and not something that existed in the wild that actually just jumped from a bat to a Pangolin to a person or what-have-you so legit scientists and biologists who are not a part of the narrative did not working for any government agency they're not the part of the news media is trying to transmit propaganda they are concerned with it and their concern with it for very specific scientific reason now me as a person who doesn't know what the f*** any of that stuff I just said means really I just repeat it it sounds like I'm smart but they that the smart people actually worried about it for very specific reasons that explain to you now it's not vulnerable for a lot of people they're not going to be vulnerable like pro athletes were talking about those NBA players that get it this is our top of the food chain stud athlete they shake it off over and over and over again there's a lot of people that get Idris Elba took it off a lot of people to get it shake it off they barely get it they barely even know they have it but they're really robust healthy people the concern is people that aren't old people people that are vulnerable when they get it man they got it bad and I was reading an article today about a woman who's been sick with covid-19 days now and she still has days she has like it's horrible you like symptoms and she gets really easy but I think she has multiple sclerosis and she's got some other underlying health condition so those people have to really be worried about this cuz is not predictable they don't know how to treat it totally especially the beginning turned out when they put people on ventilators my buddy Michael yo got it and he got it early on and his doctor told him if I put you on a ventilator you're probably going to die because your body's going to stop breathing for itself is going to let the ventilator do all the work the van 90% of people put on ventilators for anything ever died the true that's what I sent he brings his own beer it's funny how he's jump balls deep in the weed and CBD dog CBD I f***** up with cbdmd and I took some of their dog CBD is delicious peanut butter flavor I think it's fine what is the Beaufort what is the oil that what is a Rams Head I think it's a goat head as I asked him once about it I can't remember what the answer was but I think it's always been like his thing that has the goat head is it Beelzebub sounds good yeah be careful you know you get people so high that they get super paranoid they look down that goat head Baphomet Baphomet that's right I seen him on things before that's like something donkey with no a lot Houston ICU capacity could soon be exceeded as covid-19 hospitalizations were all the videos come out and it's like people in going to the hospitals and there's no lines that they try to make it out to be you know there's a lot of a lot of fuckary going on with this misinformation then tropical medicine at Baylor College of Medicine he's brewing guy Houston which is known for its top medical schools has a large concentration of beds and research hospitals and what not and they're very close to running out of all of their ICU beds years ago are very close to running out of all of their ICU beds state to reimpose more aggressive social distancing restrictions to he's not a he's not a foolish person if he's saying this is it legit scientist in a doctor and he knows a tremendous amount about diseases I met him many many years ago

such a f****** crazy fight going to bring the side you brought that up so Everybody's Talkin about this week in the fight where the Drysdale there's tell him to stop the fighting and he's like Drysdales like just trying to be close to keep going around there's a lot of people are saying it's a fighter says he doesn't want to do it anymore whatever that's Simon Marcus by after 3 Rounds wasn't begging my coach to stop it but I did not want to go and another f****** around and did I win one more imma call you can't do one more I don't want to do one more I can't even want my coaches like f****** you can do it one more round and we do it but a lot of Fighters experience that and it's the coaches job I think they keep them to try to keep them going outside on that but he didn't find any way after the conversation is over yeah maybe you should have called it when the guy said call it but in the moment he doesn't know that you can't talk the guy in the fighting and then maybe the guy wins like you don't know what a person's psychological mind says like unless you train with that person and there are some people that you can talk into performing better that said he took a lot of punishment right maybe he knew something maybe maybe it was a good thing to stop there's sometimes when your body is just broken sometimes when you shouldn't go on and this debate I think is very healthy the debate of whether or not the coach was right over there. The guy was right but ultimately the guys right cuz you can't go on so he doesn't he quits and he's you know that's his decision what he only only he knows what was going on with his body went Gerald McClellan got criticized for taking a knee against Nigel Benn I don't know if you remember but it was the fight to put Joe McClellan in a coma and in severely handicapped M40 McClellan at the time was a f****** ass ass in man he was scared he was another guy that cut way too much weight you cut a lot of weight man it was hard for me was really big and so when he would get into that if he's fought 168 I think it was fine a Roy Jones division is it 168 or 175 get pull up Gerald McClellan vs. Nigel Benn this was the dark destroyer dreadlocks in German coal and knocked him through the ropes in the first round cuz he was smashed people who just smashed people he was such a guy right so he thought lyric rhonchi just moving forward behind a jab big right hands just nasty vicious puncher well Nigel Benn gets up and he makes it through the ground and and then turns into a war and then jump clone starts getting tired and then they Clash heads and then Nigel Benn hits with a couple punches late in the fight and when Nigel Benn hit him to is early on mean this is look like this would go a little earlier than this so we could see this combination this was Gerald McClellan and everybody was like real keen on him fight Roy Jones jr. this is when Roy Jones and it was in his prime and this was like the big challenge was Gerald McClellan Roy Jones jr. everybody was thinking that was eventually going to have to happen because Gerald was just smashing people and not go boom boom boom do the f****** rough she could see he's like really out of it but so tough and so conditioned but he makes it back we that barely can get through the ropes got a lot of seconds there though right that's probably more than 10 seconds so anyway and look at the referee there's more seconds and Gerald still. Nigel starts teeing off on Gerald's and Gerald's punches are coming real slow and he's getting tired and Nigel starts connecting and it mean the crowd is going to f****** bananas it is a wild-ass fight and at one point in time they had butt and then Nigel hits him with the punches and McClellan takes an A and everybody's like I can't believe that she's going to quit he's going to quit and then he goes his corner and then he slumps and and goes unconscious like he knew something was wrong when anybody anybody that criticizes yeah they're saying I can't believe he's doing this I can't believe this f****** you just going to quit but he knew something was really off only the fighter knows I mean maybe it's psychological but maybe something's wrong and maybe you can't think maybe his brain is just f***** maybe knows not to be able to punch right maybe he knows there it is so he goes down and just decide to stay down he's like something is f****** really wrong he's like out of it and you see this is I mean just looks something looks wrong something looks wrong you know he's hurt bad and Nigel Benn is moving in for the f****** kill and he drops in there that uppercut in this is where he quit seat and this is where like you see him he's struggling man but if I remember correctly the commentators were shocked that he decided to stay down he's quit so they that way and you know I think they were you know expressing such shock that he quit and pretty pump that Nigel Benn beat them but they didn't know you know and Gerald McClellan that injury scare the f*** out of everybody because he was you know one of the golden guys he was one of the guys that everybody was excited about it was like if if that happened today you know to Ryan Garcia or something like that you know someone who's you know real exciting up-and-coming someone who's you know Canelo Canelo just against Canelo is a bigger star than Gerald but when someone who's of that nature like an elite super Elite fighter whines up going into a coma like that that's f****** terrifying s*** and give out of it okay but apparently that was responsible for Roy Jones kind of altering style and being very Safety 1st and really thinking about eventually you know getting out of sport which is ironic right because he wanted fighting later and later and later and it was like me has last fight just couple years ago

play civilizations fragile do you mean because of this covid-19 s*** that's going on right now well I don't know where that's what's crazy like you go back to November nothing and here we are December January February March April May six months totally different world so from nothing to everything's locked down there's so much conflicting information and conflicting opinions about how to proceed what what has happened you you find things where there was a meat packing plant I believe in Missouri where 300 + people or asymptomatic tested positive for asymptomatic and then another place is hitches ravages entire communities and kills people and it's it's so weird it did almost appears on the outer like if you didn't know any better you like what it seems like as a bunch of different viruses doesn't seem like it's the same thing or has a bunch of different reactions to the biological variety of Peep I mean I kind of saw this whole thing play out in China before they played out in the US so it's kind of like watching the same movie again in English then what say the World Health Organization said it was it's very much my glasses I probably was very deadly to very specific kinds of people with specific problems and the sheriff if you're below 60 and and have no serious health issues the probability of death is extremely low when they first started to lock down the country it's very difficult to correct course that's why people really wanted a panic when you see all these people on ventilators and so many of them are dying and you see these nurses are dying and doctors are getting sick in some places that fears Justified but then another place is your you're reading these stories about hospitals that are essentially half-empty they're they're having the furlough doctors and nurses because there's no work for them most of the hospitals in United States right now have him T procedures and normal things that people would have to go to the hospital for yes I mean I'm not talking about just send me the election procedures are quite important it's like you have a bad heart I have gone out or my knee and I don't want to go to the hospital I can't go to the hospital to extreme pain feel like I have like white serious issues that are choosing not to go out of here so I think it's from it's not good it seems like the state of public reception not as fatal as we thought it was still dangerous still worse than the flu but not as bad as we thought or we feared it could be objectively than what she is much slower at least a factor of 10 maybe a factor of 50 lower than initially filled do you think that the current way we're handling this the social insane the mask the locking down is it does this make sense is it adequate or do you think that we should move back to at least closer to where we used to be well I think proper hygiene is a good thing no matter was her hands and you know and if your if your coughing stay home or wear masks this is not good you know I could do that normal you know, people I think that that would be a great thing to turn it off in general throughout the world washing her hands 9 years off at nine year old boy thank you care I don't give a fuk by wash my hands so improved if we meet at some point there probably will be a pandemic with with a with a for the high mortality rate today that that's fine that is like a high mortality event that the business is at least practice for something like that and I think there's some such pandemic bugging. Of course I'm not disrespecting their death no loss but I'm saying overall as a as a culture is a community as a human race as a community this is not as bad as it could have been this is a good dry run for us to do appreciate that we need far more resources dedicated towards understanding these diseases what to do in the case of pandemic and much more money that goes to funding treatments and and preventive measures absolutely coming out of this that we will develop vaccines that we didn't have before for a coronavirus is not the other other viruses and and possibly cures for for these in our understanding of viruses of this Nature has improved dramatically because of the attention that so it's definitely easier if we act correctly in the future have a serious really high mortality rate and we kind of got to go through this with with without without it being something that kills in the past numbers of young healthy people with without without it being something that kills in the past numbers of young healthy people when you made a series of tweets recently you know I don't remember the exact wording but essentially were saying free America now because I don't think that I

this this particular coronavirus issue that we're dealing with right now seems to be a great Illuminator of that very fact is that there's so much data and there's this is so much as open to interpret the so many things cuz it's all happening in real time right and like particular right now in California where in stage 2 tomorrow or Friday 2 days from now saves to retail stores opening up things are changing with no one knows the correct process that needs to take place to save the most amount of Lies but yet ensure that our our our culture and that our our economy survives it's a lot of speculation and guessing but a certain places they'll tell you we know why and we know this and we know it's hard information on our civil liberties and civil liberties a lot of people a lot of people died to independence with the country and and fight for the Democracy that we have and you know we should treasure that and not in and not give up our liberties to easily I think we could probably did that actually to require people to stay home require people to not go to work require into to arrest people for trying to make a living this all seems wrong and I said it's the wrong approach is an infantile ization of the society that dad is going to tell you what to do the arresting people for protesting because they're protesting in violating social distancing in these mandates that tell people that they have to stay home if you're at risk you should not be compelled to leave her house or leave a place of safety but usual so not be if you're not at risk or if you are at risk and you wish to take a risk with your life you should have the right to do that at this point I'm particularly protecting the people that are at risk versus penalizing the people that are not at high risk for living the life the way they did particulate having a career and new living in feeding your family paying your bills keeping your store open keep me restaurant open yes that you even if you're fine even if you know you're going to be okay there certain people that will not be okay because of your actions they might get exposed to this thing that we don't have a vaccine for we don't have a universally-accepted treatment for and then we need to get in the business there's two arguments right the one argument is we need to keep going protect the weak protect the sick but let's open up the economy the other argument as stop placing money over human lives and let's turn place until we come up with some sort of a decision and let's figure out some way to develop some sort of universal income Universal basic income plan or something like that to feed people during the during this time mff some reason like that well that's my opinion so the now ya know that you can just sort of send checks out everybody in and they will be fine is not true obviously there's several have this absurd like view that the economy is like some magic Horn of Plenty like stuff do you know what the goods and services they just come from this magic one of Plenty and then if like if somebody has more stuff than somebody else's cuz they took more from this magic one of Plenty just break it to you out there if you don't make stuff there's no stuff so make the food medical treatment teeth fixed legislate money and Sutton Sophie's things if you don't make stuff yet there is no stuff obviously we'll run out of the stores we ran out of the room pictures of the hold the machine just grinds to a halt but the initial thought on this virus they're the real fear was it this is going to kill hundreds of thousands if not millions of people instantaneously in this country is going to do it very quickly if we didn't hunker down we didn't shelter-in-place if we didn't quarantine ourselves or lockdown do you think that the initial thought was a good idea based on the perception that this was going far more deadly than it turned out to be maybe I think briefly briefly briefly but I think if you know any any kind of like sensible examination of what happened to China would lead to a conclusion that that is obscene not going to occur this this virus originated in Wuhan there was like at through throughout China threats the world and fatality rate was with low the filter the information is coming out of China to accurately really get a real true representation what happened they did the propaganda machine is very strong implicit with a lot of their propaganda the things that American companies have massive Supply chains in China what country has leprechaun we have hundreds of suppliers like to hear 1234 suppliers throughout throughout China so we know if they are able to make stuff or not we know if they if they have issues or not then they had their China's back back at Full Steam and many pretty much every us company has some significant numbers fighting trying to see how you know if they're able to provide things or not or if is you know High mortality rate by 7,000 people in China so run parallel do you think there's a danger of Donald Trump's it's his goal it's his in in than anything he does is sort of theirs there's people that are going to oppose it and come up with some reasons why he's wrong for taking this climate was as we're leaving of November and you know that the 2020 elections do you think that is it a real danger in terms of public perception that Trump wants to open up so they need jerk oppose it because they oppose Trump I think there has been some rest so it's not great what is the question of like it went way too supposed to civil liberties from this picture may know adjustment to realize like okay we thought it was one thing it's not it's not good but it's not what we thought it was going to be. We feared so let's let's backup and reconsider let's do this publicly and say we were acting based on the information that we had initially that information appears to be faulty and here's how we move forward while protecting civil liberties while protecting what essentially this country founded on which is a very information appears to be faulty and here's how we move forward while protecting civil liberties while protecting would essentially this country founded on which is a very agreed-upon amount of Freedom that we respect and appreciate absolutely

write more and more books you find it to be more difficult or do you find it to be easier well my early books were all focused on trying to bring scientific ideas out to the general public and the elegant Universe was about String Theory fabric of cosmos space and time hidden without is about multiple universes and so in that role my basement trying to translate from the cutting-edge research into ordinary human language so that people who don't want to go to graduate school can get the basic idea what's going on in this book is a very different opposition I I feel like I've moved in a in a in a significantly different direction through this book because yes there's science yo entropy Evolution the history of the universe in the beginning to the end but the focus on why we humans do what we do why we tell stories the emergence of language why we tell missyb engagement religious experience why creative expression is so important to us this felt like it was drawing upon things I've been thinking about for decades but never put into to writing so it was a harder exercise than anything that I did before cuz it was a different exercise but in the end one that I felt was even more gratifying because it was making clear why these ideas matter as opposed to just trying to tickle the brain of the reader I'm trying to actually if you will touch the heart and soul of the reader and that's something which if it's successful feels very gratifying I would imagine that would be very hard to end to feel play cat it to put the cover on it and to go that's it yeah right it is and I feel that true or miss with with all books you know they're the famous adages that you never finished the book you abandon them whatever whatever happens and that was true in Spades in this particular case because the subject was so big and you can always imagined but at some point you recognize that you know life is an ongoing process and work is ultimately a snapshot of where the author was at the moment that the book was written and that to me is really what happens here this is a snapshot of my view of The Human Condition set against the cosmological and fold them and how much of your perceptions of these things has evolved you know as an educator as a scientist and has a person is in the public eye how much is how much of your perceptions on these ideas have changed over the course of your career huge huge that was a very hard-nosed science thinker when I started I think part of this may have been I became a professor ready at a relatively young age I think I was 27 when I got my first faculty job so many of the garage is students for the same age as me so I think I felt the need to have a very rigid scientific outlook on the world Peak because of that and I know as I've gotten older that has changed my willingness to entertain a broader range of thought and experience and ways of being has as absolutely grown the other thing that of vast and vital impact on their students you know for 30 years the only thing I really taught was technical physics courses quantum mechanics or relativity you know thermodynamics and what do you do there you're at the Blackboard you're putting equations up there you're trying to get the kids to be able to solve problems and understand the mathematics about to be the only thing you really ever doing is touching the cognitive part of their brain the last few years I've been teaching a course the students didn't know it that's actually based on this book so I want to try out the ideas with young minds so I taught a course of Columbus Origins and meaning and in that course I had students from across the campus not just a physics students at the neurosurgeons the anthropologist see how their understanding of how their major or subject fits into the cosmological and folding changed many of their perspectives on what it is that they're studying and what they're doing and to have students come to my office until shuckin up shaking up whatever the right format that verb is where they're saying you know I've lived my life in such a way but now I'm going to think about religion as perhaps an evolutionarily interesting and useful development as opposed to theme from on high or when I think about creative expression at something that might seed Ingenuity and Innovation as opposed to something that is just pure inspiration coming from the outer world I'm thinking about my life differently and some of them frankly would be upset that had students come in tears and I never had that one at each quadrant addicts and you know more than one what I am in the world what was the key aspect of his that was shaking them well for some students it was the it was an ocean of religion because many of them or the some of them had a traditional religious upbringing and their academic life in the religious life or completely separate and now when you have a chorus in which you're focusing upon how it would be that this institution of religion might naturally evolved on planet earth based upon what we know about humans and human brain. evolutionary pressures that we've been under some of them began to think about religion as a very different proposition than the one that they had when they were growing up and I was in a position I've never been before of basically Counseling of students saying hey it's okay to have your world shake a little bit it's okay to think about things you may come back to exactly where you were before this course but if a collection of ideas can make you rethink your life at least it'll casted in it in it and light it illuminated differently go with it see what happens and I never had a conversation like that when teaching Schrodinger's equation you know and for me is most gratifying pedagogical experience that I've ever had because you're reaching the whole person as opposed to just reaching this cognitive technique of solving equations conversation like that when teaching Schrodinger's equation you know and for me is the most gratifying pedagogical experience that I've ever had because you're reaching the whole person as opposed to just reaching this cognitive technique of solving equations

long-time my operating theory on Aliens was when I see something that's interesting then I'm going to pay attention to it right cuz it it just it's too attractive and it's a part of the thing of whether it's ramped or any of these wonky things there's something about woo-woo stuff whether it's psychics or the antlers that's really attracted to people yes I'm sort of a weird way and so is so are aliens the idea that if we were visited by something from another world for advanced space daddy or whatever it is they comes down here and Brad can you show us the way that's that's so attractive that it is I think it messes with your ordinary ability to observe and to objectively analyze what's real was not agree with that and I think it's an unfortunate feature of the human mind that we tend to look outward for weirdness that will inject into World more than the everyday that we experience through through common everyday encounter if we want there to be more we don't want it to be that were just on this rock around this planet and we live for a while and then we're gone we wanted to be more than that and so we imagine that there's some answer floating out there in the cosmos and maybe that will be brought down to earth through our space daddy is he referring to it and my view of that is it's much more noble to recognize that there is no cancer floating out there in space there's no space that it's going to come here and say this is what it's all about the answer is you and I and everybody else we manufacture our own meaning we manufacture our own purpose and how much better is it that we come up with the our own meaning to having it bestowed or forced Upon Us by some external entity I don't think that diminishes things I think it aggrandize has them because it's coming ultimately from ourselves that makes laws I think the hope is that spaced-out is going to prevent nuclear war and figure out how to fix the ocean but the other thing that's worth keeping in mind and this I think is surprising to some people you can do a calculation as to whether Consciousness can itself persist indefinitely in the universe you can ask yourself sure Earth may go way you and I were going to go away we recognize all this but is it possible that some kind of conscious being can continue to cogitate indefinitely far into the future or its progenate continue to cogitate and you can pretty much established that thought itself will come to an end in this universe thought itself is a limited lifetime phenomenon in the cosmos when at least our universe right yes I'm going to focus just on hours is it from drop-down of protons when we get to that point there's no room for thought no idea that's part of that but I'm willing to go for the unwilling to imagine that even with a breakdown of protons that there's some way that the particles that its ponds electrons neutrinos photons whatever somehow through some configuration of widely separated particles is able to have signals going back and forth that allows this particles to think I'm willing to posit that in order to be a general as possible and with that assumption you can still prove that the Relentless rise in entropy that we were talking about before ensures that any cogitating being that happens to still be able to persist in this unusual round with particles will ultimately burn up in the entropic waste generated by its own process of thinking to the process of thought itself in the future will generate too much heat for that being to be able to release that heat to the environment and to avoid burning up in its own waste when you think you will fry food are ideas of the importance of thought are so egocentric when we take into consideration the vast scope of the universe and How Majestic in the cosmos today no thought at least as far as we know whatsoever like like hypernova is like like you give the more you know star nurseries infinitely larger than us and responsible for life itself these processes create the very elements that are needed to create life but we're so concerned with this one animal's ability to think and Ponder create and emotion write stories and that to us it is so egocentric really self-centered when you take a look at sitting and in the valley wouldn't desk it's really weird that I think about it says so important and it's hard to not think in those terms but I encourage people the part of the point of this book is to encourage people to think in the cosmic way and recognize point that you're making which are with these little tiny tiny finite beings crawling around on this planet we're here for a brief moment of cosmic time and that's all there is to it and some will feel like oh my God that's disturbing that's distressing and my point is hey extol celebrate the fact that you were here for this brief I mean think about the collection of quantum events stretching back from The Big Bang until today that had to turn out exactly as they did for you and for me to actually exist each one of these Quantum events and they're nearly infinitely many of them could have turned out that way instead of this yielding and universe which neither you nor I nor anybody else would be here and get against those astounding odds astounding us we're here that is cause for celebration and you can go forth or not only over here we can figure out how we got here we can create art we can write the stories that you are referring to we can create play we can build monuments we can create films we can do things that inanimate objects can't so this to me is where the value and purpose and meaning comes from as opposed to trying to look out and hope space daddy comes with the answer of no flashing neon signs and that's what it's all about it comes with the answer of no flashing in neon signs and that's what it's all about that's never going to happen

you ever thought about a boxing match like you have you really thought I was going to instead of MMA I'll actually wanted the Box really yeah cuz I was living at the Olympic Training Center and my girlfriend at the time was an Olympic boxer and oh yeah and so I was like man that's wrestling thing is not really working out because I've been hurt a few times and it's hurting my motivation to want to be Olympic champion wrestler tell my motivation was starting to die now and I'm like what else can I do like I can but I still want to compete and of course you know dating a boxer and having this kind of watch them now you start to being gulfton what they're doing in the preparation and I'm deeply in Richton it now to wear and I was already a boxing family now I might be starting to learn what's going on and I might maybe I should just come back and box for the next four years and try to make the Olympic team and go in the Olympics but then I might wait so I'm going to throw away the scale that I just work heading almost 10 years perfecting learning just throw that away and then you start a new sport off the rip your idiot 2324 so now you've been striking for many many years now and so when you see something happened like with Conor and Floyd Mayweather if something like that comes your way would I take it thing with that is a lot of people are going to say that you can't box are you can't box like he's got to know it looks at the end of the day no I'm not condition to be able to box like them to be able to go to 12 3-minute round even though yes MMA rounds a 5-minute rounds might be more intentional three-minute rounds but different conditioning to be able to slip punches move and then throw punches and block punches be efficient efficient comfortable it's a man it's hard work to where we going to MMA fighter around you feel like you want to die there a box you can come into it you know mme and might not have been able to get through around you know it's just different mechanics you know just being able to work the mind and relax the mind to get to work on it it's different. I would definitely give it a 35 lb title I mean that would be the big fight why would I get some some big-time boxes in there to spar with me and it really helped me prepare how much time would you need cuz I'm saying is like Floyd was genello he gave he gave Connor a very short window of time to get ready boxer Canelo just go out there and do I mean yeah of course I can do it in less time but but if you were right I need to do it right to feel confident going in there the boxer boxer not and not saying that I would definitely win know it's me imma give it my all like I'm going to come you not going to just walk over me you going to fill me right now because the UFC is getting involved in box absolute and they do have some plans on promoting some big boxing matches and perhaps having some raphides Crawford is talking about fighting he's like I'll fight you won boxing match with Connor he's like I'll fight you won boxing match and will fight you one MMA match I think he can do it I think Terrence could do anything I mean that's the thing I was going to say is and you know that's a God that I like to watch a lot to boxing there is an art to learn something or learn some things from him he's he's very good he's an orthodox fighter switch is South parties deadly he's just as good if not better yeah he can do anything and he's like a computer he starts seeing where those openings find your weaknesses and then starts putting it on you and put it on your hair turns a special he's got a dog in them too he loves that he loves it that time that a lot of people might not take away but when he turns on that dog in trouble I think you could too I just don't know if he's famous enough to entice you know like not make it not making Floyd and Conor McGregor right I mean who knows, maybe Conner wants to have a bunch of that maybe look kind of got probably a hundred million dollars in the bank right it probably is due if he's doing it right now is barely doing anyways doing it for the challenge and for the rise it might be something that he would be interested in but he just said he wants a billy like a million dollars in career 2050 million I think TF not retired I'm do other job as well but 250 million I think because at that point it's generational wealth oh yeah it's something that you know my kids kids and my family is going to be able to live off of not retired I'm do other jobs as well but 250 million I think because at that point it's generational wealth oh yeah yeah yeah it's something that you know my kids kids and my family is going to be able to live off of that's that's that's all I care about

so you don't get high at all now no never hype I have I have my 26th birthday was the first time I tried it what happened nothing nothing nothing I mean I guess I didn't know how to do I didn't know how to inhale it I didn't know how to smoke it and then that same year I had to yeah I was thinking the last year I was at the training center Olympic Training Center and then I had to do I did The Ultimate Fighter season 14 I was a wrestling coach for team Mayhem Miller and and me and may have with sick and we were in the in the same house and we would sit on the balcony at night after filming all day will come and eat without weed smoke and we just relax and eat decompress and I was a crazy thing about me I'm too smart guy I mean yeah he had a crazy smart guy who just come back and sit there and relax and just think he would say certain things and then he was like yellow you should try this you should just try this that doesn't do nothing for me already tried it that you doing it wrong what's like a fat piece of my brother's don't we doesn't do it doesn't affect me bro isn't even for me and I had to edit by big piece to I'm eating cuz it was like it was good with chocolate eating them eat nothing and I need to go get water so I let me go get some water and you walk in the balcony sliding door you walk inside my room our rooms are this way down the hall his rooms further my room is just to the right and the kitchen's right front so I walk in I'm like okay get some water I'm like two steps before I get to the counter but I'm just like they're what's going on I never touch you water I eventually just somehow turn it to my right just stumble into my room I fell on my back like this I woke up 10 hours later tell them we were shooting the show in Vegas until I was my first time being in Vegas and but it was fun time and I was just like wow okay but then after that I smoked again with my friend down in Florida years ago maybe four years ago and that was when I actually got high from smoking you know I hit it hard at first I might cuz I'm the same I might this doesn't affect me guys so I already wrote that out my Wii doesn't affect me guys so I hit it hard then I told her you got holding in I'm holding start coughing i coughing like maybe 6 minutes again like right away pack me that I hit it again hard coughing not going to do nothing for the hit it again bra told you guys this does nothing for me man and we're sitting on the couch and my little brother calls me and I think this was when he was making the transition he's leaving football he calls me talkin to me on the phone and now we're talkin I'm not mad everything is good manual you'll be fine we'll do something else and I forget everything I was just talkin about I was a I'll call you back so I can and I immediately I'm one of those guys if I don't have control. I feel like I don't have control of my body my thoughts was going on I kind of gave it anxiety so I kind of start going to the panic mode and so I'm sitting there on the couch and he has to look at me and I look left of these guys sometimes something's wrong something's wrong something's wrong something's wrong I don't know what's going on I was just trying to talk to my brother and I forgot everything I was talking about something is wrong and they are laughing hysterically laughing at me bad and I'm in the now I'm like okay now I got to be cool I got to try to be cool while I control is Happy cool happy cool but the biggest thing is I couldn't control what was going on the fact that I was feeling what I was feeling I couldn't shut it off that was it for me I was like yeah I can't happens when you cough like I don't know why it's a deeper I don't know if this science behind that is there any science behind that tree like coughing get you more High cuz it is for me when I would if I'm smoking pot and I cough I go oh no no I'm not sure maybe it's a small because I'm not used to having smoked in my life cuz even now if I walk through casinos I'm I'm sick for a while with pot use one if you're not if you're a rookie Vietnam veteran you don't do it a lot you want that serves right that's it stop stop right there sometime after that it was like almost like he didn't pressure me but it was like he was Rashad funny guy so we're going to Country waiting Wayne yeah he's big following out and on the south end and I don't he doesn't hold you under he curses at all really funny guy if you look him up very funny guy and so we're at the show in before the show starts and he's I'd like to take a walk so we're walking and it has like me and him like it the wisdom that he passes on to me this is crazy I love being around him I love spending time with them that's a weird walking and then he's out and he's smoking I'm not sure I've always heard like you keep people to things get funnier when you smoke weed I hit it I cough a little bit but not as bad you know what causes a little bit and I'm okay and see we're still walking and then I hit it again light and all this time I didn't cough Micah Hyde that should be good I should be perfect at the shows going to be phenomenal so we get in now we're sitting in and we're sitting at it cuz you know those improv comedy clubs are very very tight especially the big nice ones but the VIP tickets you're right there on the floor next to him like maybe three seats away from the stage so we're there and it's a packed house is everything sold out and we're watching him and watching him and watching them and I remember like now I start feeling something I'm getting paranoid now Michael so I'm I'm talking to Richard well in my head I think I'm talking to him so I'm thinking I'm I'm trying to whisper because I don't want to interrupt the show cuz I want the comedian cuz I've heard Comedians and go hacks with you so I'm like trying not to interrupt the show I'm like I'm thinking I'm like Rashad Rashad and thank you. Could I almost I was this close to running out of of that at the Improv Comedy Club you can handle this so I'm like trying to reel myself back in my mind I might just breathe relax. Relax watch the show read and I'm I'm getting to the shop and get into it but every now and again in the creep I can't your hi bro your I get out of here get out of here but that's it. Was it for me after that when I might you know what he's just not for me it's not not for me I've had those experiences a hundred times maybe more like what I just get so high it just gets ridiculous but you still do you still do it I like it I always learn something when I get that high when I get real high I'm probably like my probably have an issue I need to take care of his bother me in the first place where I feel bad about something maybe I said or something I did it did this like marijuana like if you have something that you you are like maybe pushing in the back your head marijuana's I put a flashlight on it

mentioned he has mentioned your name right. The only reason we've been talking about, kind of in the conversation because he came out and said that he wanted my belt you know like I don't give it I don't get your s*** about Connor will the idea what time that 4570 if he could win a title at 70 me goddamn 55 and 7 because because he's trying to make history redundant to go through a class and get a belt and all 3-way classic no one has ever done that well the UFC champion for a hundred million bucks he's not in the business of talkingshit he doesn't have anything to do with that but he said one of the darkest things ever heard of a guy say before he said I want to change his face you always talk now do this and this whole mess with all character do all this talkin and then you know I used to I respected massive a lot before you know but you know after years of years of being in the game and you finally start to get a little shine and this house you're going to do it this is what you know now you're you're that give me Chi-Chi yeah but now you know all about him him to this point what he's got this hype around him now but that's what it is a little bit of a good job but knocking out Donald Cerrone talking out there until and putting Ben askren to another dimension with a flying knee all that help and then popping up Nate Diaz and open up two vaginas on his face that is that is why he got popular right you know that yeah but you know like where those the hardest fights at that time well Darren till was taught to be a very hard and until was a good one above the Tyron Woodley fight but still Darren till was taught to be a very good fight yes and Donald Cerrone Donald is real 55 pounder yes yes yes so Donald Cerrone Darren till and then the Ben askren one that was no matter how you slice that's goddamn crazy what he did to him that was it that was the gamble I think that was the gamble fight that paid off and sent him I took all that high from Ben askren I understand I get it rightfully so but you know now that the kind of make all this noise and tell you this and now you going to do this like I've heard him gone as far as I know he's going to break my face is going to do all of this and do that but then I see you backstage and nothing was said nothing we sat in the same role counterspy the same 10 people apart nothing was said you know I'm that type of guy if you are going if I say what I'm going to do. I'm going to do something to you when I see you I'm that's it's on sight I don't that's not me I don't like to talk to s*** and this and that but if I feel a certain way about you when I see you I'm going to confront you about it so your number one picks GSP number one hits yes number for legacy for history for everything number to Red panty night number 2 number 3 equals 92 yeah yeah I mean it is what it is that we don't let's just be honest unless they somehow cuz they're doing everything possible not to fight me right back and forth at 5 because like I get it let's be honest it is if my manager said it too if I was his manager yes I why would I fight you I would do everything but if he goes back down to making 1550 or whatever he's making before I get all that hype is done and also yeah why would I fight you the opportunity potential problem is everyone has been sent all they need to give him a title shot give me Joshua guess what you just might get what you wish for but now you realize don't I don't I don't really want to talk I want no I want I want this money over here I want this guy to pick me so I can get that money I don't want the title shot because we both know what's going to happen him and I both know his management team know everybody knows what's really going to happen but that's the nature of the game because he's got his fans who really believed that he can beat anybody in the world that he can't be touched there is that all you had asked the guy that's going to beat you in a knock you out he's going to do whatever you want to do to you know it's not going to happen not even remotely possible for it to happen being certified to set up I mean I don't care like I'll fight anybody behind it would be used to carry around with them but everybody wants your belt yeah I so you know at the end of the day that's you know Dana said that's the fight that he wants and and we're in the business of doing business with Dana right now so if that's the fight to Danny wants to make them we're going to go in the room and talk and what kind of time I do think you looking at me looking for you well let's see April's taken already March has taken what about a run livent and I will see what Dana says if it makes sense for them nice that's what I want to see all three of them at a hundred whether it's GSP I'm at a hundred Mazda, 200 red panties night come on I'm f****** talk I'm a hundred percent pump for all three of them want to see I ain't know at some point we just look at him like that kind of makes more sense than even in Odyssey the master dog being in the welterweight it has been doing his is Sting you know but it's like anybody in the top five top-five well if Connor jumps right ahead of everybody and gets a title shot like people who don't want to help people with frown upon it but same time and same time they get him out he's fought a just fought at what the way yeah you know I know get it because it looked, it did the same thing for lightweight he went straight into a mythical creature that can go in creature that can go in and win three titles dude and all like that I mean it makes that they've kind of want that opportunity get who am I to try to stand in the way of his opportunity to try to to be great I don't mind

trying to do almost everything to limit the amount of options that someone wants to have a gun has here to talk about it a little bit harder and so if you start adding cuz all these lost their not to not freed you and I not have a problem paying for but you know who will people live in City environments and don't have a lot of money that's who's going to have a problem buying guns for protection who arguably probably needed more if you don't understand I think about that or people don't understand the laws are designed to make it so hard and annoying to own but you just don't want to do it it's just too much and people like why don't you like mandated training what because I have already seen what they've done with other law so all that's going to happen is they're going to stop for saying okay if you need three hours of mandated training then it's going to be for this is going to be 7 then another shooting will happen 20 now as somebody who's an entrepreneur who can generally speaking make their schedule maybe they may be able to do that somebody working two jobs for door or five they can't take it there's no way they're going to be able to satisfy that you know and people don't think about the real implications of that and so and even even then even from a an Intercity perspective people who are talking about policing debt that we police the Intercity too much well where do you think you're going to go and enforce these lost if we have more of them where do you think you're going to enforce them they're not they're not going to to to Malibu to enforce gun turn forcing them in south-central like I mean that's just is what it is so people don't think about the actual real consequences of these lost they look at them and take that badge pretty reasonable no other laws on top of that they were considered just reasonable enforcing them in south-central like I mean that's just is what it is so people don't think about the actual real consequences of these lost they look at them and take reasonable no other laws on top of that they were considered just reasonable

another perspective thing I've noticed to that's that that's the mentality that is way more pervasive than it needs to be the way that people look at success I was raised but my mom and I should be a f****** failure to be honest with you I am like the epitome of a having a background where I should be nothing my mom was like look if them one at you and not meeting any specific race or any specific type of people but just anything if you want something and you see someone that has something that you want work and figure out a way so that you can get it that should be a motivation not something I look down on in safe or why do they get to have that that's not fair I should have that I think there's too much of that thought process of mentality in this country and its in mind is he there and it and I think it's scary scared because then what it does is Abilify success and so now instead of sex accepting something that people aspire to it's not become something that people attack and I think it's incredibly dangerous incredibly dangerous of someone who's doing some shady s*** with with loans and you know I'm talking over people with no subprime mortgages and that there's two different things that make you successful you know The Wolf of Wall Street money do you get from ripping people off but I think that goes without being said though it's weird people are weird and the reason I have it and I I know it's a little naive to degree but I do believe like a gun change the way I looked at the world and I think the gun like a lot like you know you would say like a physical symbol of self-reliance not that I don't need anyone but to trust in my own ability to find a way to deal with any problems that I sometimes that ability means go to somebody who's better at it than you that can help you do something to learn exactly find the strength within yourself to overcome issue that you're dealing with the gun show me and I don't told me that responsibility because now we're talkin however I want to buy it as far as the sporting Enthusiast aspect of it it's still something it's life and death that is a tour of life that can be used to take a life and can be used to say one so because of that that is a big responsibility especially when I'm carrying that very thing on me everywhere I go so it had me really appreciate life more I thought of the value life a lot more most people think you get done and I'll send you just want to take life no like the assault stop the day after use a gun to defend myself I'm going to need therapy flat-out immunity therapy because it's made me value like that body like before but it's something that brings it to the Forefront of your Consciousness when you have a gun and you understand what they've done can be used to do and so that happens to way more people than people realize most people think everybody when in reality number of stories of people out there who I know a guy who the firearm helping get out of his depression I know I know it sounds crazy sounds crazy please speak about and he's in he's very he should be I mean he grew up in the streets of St Louis and he didn't even have a good life he was young and he was depressed when he got in the fire on that allowed him to deal with his depression because it found something he was passionate about that is crazy but that's something that does actually work when you find something you really love and pursue it and you get some like that's one of the problems I have with the term depression like boy that's a blanket throw over so many different factors like what it's almost like the term drugs I can say you on drugs yeah I drank a cup of coffee, it means you really like that in that their people and I know these people that have a real problem with their brain and where the brain produces chemicals same way some people have problems with your liver some people have their born with ineffective lungs these are all just parts of us being the person and some people have like legitimate issues that I think they need medication for and then there's other people that just don't feel good and they called depression because their life sucks and their job sucks and no one wants have sex with them and then I have any money so they're depressed and they say I'm suffering from depression and if so what do you do with that will some of those people get on medication and I don't know if that's really the answer because there's a lot of those people that I know that have discovered Jiu-Jitsu or discovered other things that Yoga evil is physical things often because they release endorphins and cuz they're actually healthy for you but also you get passionate about something and you see this Improvement and we were talking about that with guns I was trying to describe to someone why I like shooting guns and I said one of the reasons why cuz I'm not very good at it you know I like learning thing I like learning all kinds of things. friends because they're actually healthy for you but also you get passionate about something and you see this Improvement and we were talking about that with guns I was trying to describe to someone why I like shooting guns and I said one of the reasons why lie cuz I'm not very good at it you know I like learning thing I like learning all kinds of things

wanted to thinks you either pivot find something you're good at and go that direction or if you willing to put any effort figure out how to get better at what you're not good at and then and then apply those things now it's going to be hard it's going to suck you still may not even get to the same level degree of somebody else's naturally talented in that in that sense but what's the alternative it's about it and like you said complain complain that you see people who are not very good commenting on people who are successful they start saying this is one of the reasons why I could never make it cuz the people that made their sellouts or their this or there that and like okay you know who doesn't leave comments like that winners make mistakes in the thing of the different so is you do it publicly you mess up publicly oh yeah that's a lot to take in at like even like when I went on when I was on a man when I was on Fillmore and I'm going to Round Table I didn't think I did a good job I don't think I could like a lawyer I thought I can go on reason and to be honest and I was out class because they had a great command of using emotion I don't think it's a good way to communicate and I said it would go on the show he's trying to talk me into doing the show and I think I agreed to it but then I found ways to get out of it this is why man talk one-on-one is hard enough like you ever thought sometimes you're expanding and I have a thought I'm holding on to it but then you keep talking and I'll know when to get it in there lose it now when it's three other f****** people and they're all trying to get sound bites the hoping you're going to be on YouTube while performing it is a lot of it a lot of his performance make a point and I'm like it's a bad way to communicate to others to chime in and reinforce your thoughts cuz it's like that I think a lot of pro-gun people haven't been able to get go to hopefully I communicated in a manner that was that resonated with a lot of people in the same same way here it's I'd be lying if I said I did not value the ability to have for the time being within 2 hours 3 hours Pace access to your audience at the same time because I don't understand take me I'm saying why but I'm just passionate about this in a way that sometimes even I have a hard time articulating and so when I see all of these new people cuz I know your audience is very like I have a big there's a base in my audience gun people and a lot of them very conservative and your audience if it gives me the ability to speak to a wider Gap people who would otherwise never even looked in my direction because of what I talk about insole in aren't that many platforms that are available right now that are willing to open the doors to the opposite perspective because you got a smart guy you know that this puts you in a very peculiar situation you can end up looking really bad because you're literally confronting and testing out all of your ideas in front of the your audience that thinks to do everything right and so many people aren't willing to because of the worried about looking bad which is why I give mad props to Bill Maher's well because there aren't many platform most people just want to sit there and will Chambers yell at the audience so I can't think about any other type of platforms that may have a different perspective that would let me come on like this and that's just me being not well I think it's important to talk to people that have all sorts of different ideas you know the thing that's the thing going on today or people talk about giving someone a platform you shouldn't be giving them access to your platform Michael what the f*** is the purpose of a platform if it's not to test out ideas it was not like if you want to talk to someone when I'm not talking about someone like was in the KKK controversial viewpoints one of the best ways to sort those viewpoints out is a challenging there and in fact there's a lot of people support a lot of people that have a tan where I've confronted them on their ideas and it did lost a lot of fans because of it cuz these ideas now fall apart under scrutiny under someone who could talk to you for long periods of time and just start go okay well why do you think that and then they say this and that and then you go but where's that coming from there and then they see this as you get deeper and deeper you get to the basement and you go out apart under scrutiny under someone who could talk to you for long periods of time and just start go okay well why do you think that and then they say this and that and then you go but where's that coming from you and then they see this as you get deeper and deeper you get to the basement and ego all this is a s*** there's nothing in here

nothing that people don't want to hear it I want it I want to hear that but it's a dessert thrilled to shooting I mean think about it like New Mexico sometimes a thousand meters that's crazy it's extremely knowledgeable but I don't know the exact seconds because it all depends on you you talking about different bullet speeds make the sound travel slower it's crazy traveling faster than speed of sound you don't realize that and it's not even being in a beautiful environment oh my gosh you can't beat it up to like 200 and that you hear Boom dink so there is a difference. by the Boom Pow what's a lot of times it's like that's how suppressors work because people think suppressors make things super super super quiet I really don't what you're doing is at its mitigating the noise at the muzzle right and people don't realize that when a bullet break the sound barrier you get a crack when you shoot a gun typically speaking you hearing to sound at once you're in the bullet leaves the muzzle and then you're hearing the crack of the bullet break the sound barrier is traveling text so it's like a but it's happening at what it sounds like is happening at once auditorily so when you put a suppressor on a people are surprised cuz want to mitigate the noise that the muzzle all your hearing is the sound of the action if it's not a bolt-action and then you're hearing the bullet break the sound barrier he actually gets really damn quiet there but the problem is is unless you're shooting a bolt-action the sound of that bolt smacking back and forth it's loud as hell to put about a pistol same thing yeah. But it also it's so loud because you got your outside of the cone of blast right until everybody on the side of you I think that's a that's a health issue I think so too I do you healthy for your ear like this loud man ain't nobody have his ignorant idea the people going to sneak up on people shooting suppressors and they do it at a courtesy say the other people yeah yeah I mean look it really would be good for people if they they had suppressor but it's a thing in California I think they're totally Elite based on movies people that don't understand because you head-on just got people making policies based on movies movies movies so

I don't like when people are telling other people what to do and not to do in spaced on their own personal ideology I don't like it I don't like it at all either cuz I'm I'm very much of look you do what you want to do with your life as long as it doesn't interfere with mine step on any of my my right we're good how Texas of you 100% in favor of law enforcement and I think they need to be better trained and I think you need to get rid of those bad motherfukers I think there's a lot of them I think there's a lot of bad cops and need to get rid of those and in general the idea of having a nuanced perspective on a particular issue is so far gone now that you can't even really have a conversation I can say one breath I'm Prokop Ian Prokop I have a lot of friends were cops however there also will get number from her evils f*** probably racist and need to be f****** dissolve from the from the I'm with you but I'm also Pro these peaceful protest yeah I think I'm peaceful protests are important and there was some guy did a bad job of explaining what I was trying to say but whatever basketball player was mad at me the other day cuz it was something I said that I think a lot of people are fighting like an invisible enemy when they're when they're protesting what I mean by that is yes we need bad cops yes cops should stop shooting whether it's black people or white people anybody bad cops are really good cop bad cops and bad cops shoot people whatever race they are are f****** terrible there's a problem cop shooting black people statistically not even just shooting people if what if you look at it see if you look at the statistics for cops black people is a thing that people like to do where they say well actually cop shoot more white people than black people think there are more white people than black people. More important is cops or physical with black people more than they are white people got their physical with brown people Mexican Puerto Ricans their physical with them more than they are white people more than 25% there is a problem also there's a problem with people that don't know what they want they just think that getting defending the cops are bad that's what I meant by fighting an invisible enemy I still have shity job explaining it thing we should want is a safe Community including people to get pulled over by cops there so that's the one thing that needs to be addressed first right fun them better trained them better all want this this this deep on the cop she is crazy I think a lot of movement has been co-opted and I always always hesitate because they're a lot of person that wants to topple the current structure of the United States that's pretty much it. That's why I like I make a delineation people ask me about Black lives matter for instant black lives matter the sentiment I can get done with black lives matter organization I cannot because they are not for the same thing went on stage with Bernie Sanders at one time to leave so don't quote me on that whoever the two women are who were who were the founders of black lives matter the organization they are trained Marxist said it with her own mouth on the show what do they want I dispose of them because they are rebellious and nature and us will topple the power sector that's in place vent so that's where they useful idiots that you think they are utilizing people running around Frank Black lives matters while riding and looting and what like what needs to be done at what needs to be done to keep us safe is not defending the police on me to go through the police department with a fine-tooth comb and every one of these m************ that has multiple complaint just get rid of them just get ready to find out what the f*** is going on if there is the multiple please don't make sense we have to leave me alone yeah but find out wrong with you when you should never been a cop in the first place and we all know that there are people like that when you talk to people that were in the military there are folks that they will have to work with her f****** sociopath and they hope that Bud's training and its SEAL training is going to weed those guys out at ranger training or whatever whatever the f*** it is they have to do but it doesn't always doesn't always and sometimes they get in a situation and Chaka was talking about how you'll get an entire Seal Team that they have to disband Andre and Andre set up because they have bad leadership guys and they come in with good leadership and they get trained correctly and it turns around and turns out you know what's cooking for me if we joined some sort of a military group and you're being led by some f****** piece of s*** Commander what do you do with where do you go and get your face in the entire organization is f***** so lot of this stuff is top-down so you have a lot of these cops that are in these bad neighborhoods and they've been dealing with corruption for there's a there's a movie called 275 and it's about the 75th Precinct in New York and Dowd who is one of the guys in the movie was a bad cop and he's out now and the time she like that movie and I had them on the podcast but his first day on the job did they throw a dude off of balcony or some s*** like that he was told to shut his mouth something happened like first day on the job he has some crazy s*** and they were basically told hey mother f***** this is how we do s*** I get all that f****** goody-two-shoes Dragnet bulshit out of your hair this is how we do things here and so then you're indoctrinated into this Forest it's already compromised I think that's where a lot of people kind of that's why I think a lot of people come from when he talked about the systemic aspect yes I do believe and I agree with you I'm like you got a guy who has multiple multiple complain to me at a certain point where there's smoke some fire somewhere and so at that point if you can't really really justify why this person is getting a lot of complaints and it's like you said if it doesn't make sense why they okay cool but if you like real suspect four of being able to tell someone do what I'm telling you to do this appraisal video watching the day of a white guy pulling over another white guy and he's telling the guy get out of the car and the guys why you want me to get out of the car he goes cuz I'm f****** telling you to get out the car he pulls out his is pepper spray and he goes hey man goes I'm going I'm speeding I'm going 5 miles an hour over guy and he goes to Hidden ghosts out your lucky does your lucky day goes no because you're f****** crazy he's like you're going to pepper spray me cuz I'm going 5 miles an hour over the speed limit so this is an example of a person who should never be in a position of have an ultimate power over someone like that is it was a really good time was a veteran that you would have been able to defuse a situation he would have walked up to you and how you doing sir you know why I pulled you over you're going a little bit faster than 5 miles an hour over the speed limit pepper spray to go just just cuz he's filming you when he's filming you he's allowed to do that that's you you this is like an audition for you to keep your job and he didn't do anything wrong and face-plants her weird naked choke and he's a screaming at her and these other two and these other people are standing by watching this and filming it and it's f****** Madness is a terrible way to handle the situation just a person who's either got PTSD and my buddy Jojo I think the problem is the relationship between community and the police should be a symbiotic relationship that's that's why I should be because even the same to the same degree that needs to be trained I think there needs to be training that mandated training but people should be on a car inspected by owner understand the Dynamics and dealing with people who carry guns and vice-versa so obviously needs to be understanding be aware of the fact that okay you're living in a population more people carry firearms so the idea with the present of a firearm in the hands of civilians should not terrify you that much now I get it there are bad apples all over the place that brings full circle men's citizen should understand because there are certain people who are bad apples who carry fire on it may want to do it will towards the cost that I as a citizen the responsibilities that says there's certain things I'm going to do whenever I'm interacting with the cop that signals to them pay I mean you no harm I mean no threat I get pulled over at the first thing I do is I pull over what one is down I have my ID and I have my concealed carry license in here right everything I'm doing is just to put the cop at least I understand you don't know who I am and I Know Who You Are and generally speaking at the time I was I was in the car with with my girlfriend and so and so I think I think I like I am six at the time and so I was speeding and is my information request with you Wikipedia but I do want to make it easy for you but it means you won't have the problem with me now about it but and inactive had people threaten me before gun owners that don't like guns there are people out there like yourself that are the best example of what you would hope for gun owner and if you're if that's your f****** neighbor you should be happy that that guy's armed some s*** goes down and need someone to help you and you want people to be able to help himself in my neighborhood Monica they have police write the police and they were told to stand down there were told to stand there white people looting I think nothing to that I think there is a semantics issue going on with the Define the police at least from what I'm saying cuz I heard about the defunct play some stuff about I guess there is a segment even within the defendant police there different Sexes are the people who are like no we just need to reallocate certain portions of the funding police in different places and then there are people who are like no we just need to absorb all police take away the funding and get rid of those people are out of the funny thing about that looks like what's going on in Seattle how fast do we realize that crime is going to happen it doesn't matter unit in for my hair was pretty much a hit was it but not the one from yesterday but the one before that cuz there was another shooting and apparently it seemed like it was a hit like a they were looking for this person they went to kill them and I'm like you were supposed supposed to be this Utopia it's not the way to handle this in my opinion is to fix the current structure to do it in a logical way that makes sense it's not to take over the council to take his black back to what you were saying about black lives matter don't you think is probably people in Black lives matter with don't have the sort of marxist ideas they just don't want black guy getting shot by cops black lives matter I am all for it because they're essentially the leadership of this so you think that the leadership has I do have ulterior motive packing dinner I basically saying that they don't really care about black gun ownership so forth and so on it was like an attack piece and I think it was the branch of black lives matter that's here in La actually and so I did a response video and I and I and I Russian ships and some other stuff that I have no idea what it has to do with anything with respect to now it's become this kind of like all-encompassing umbrella of lgbtq and some other stuff but then and even aspects of I guess I do want to say antifa is under the umbrella but that the whole marks is kind of communist socialist aspects of a politics kind of creeping into that as well and then when you couple that with the idea that you have the actual founder saying that they're training Marxism and then you have what you see now playing out will you have the very peaceful protest been co-opted by violent people who are now just engaging in rioting and looting and then branding it black lives matter there wolves in the wolf hiding among sheep I think there's there's a bunch of things happen at the same time and I think when it comes to the rioting and looting I think there's a lot of just opportunists to all the time he's telling me he was like you know all the windows are broken out and really they really was just a bunch of kids just running around taking advantage of the chaos and just kind of windows on the streets cuz you know when you're coming so they're filming this so many videos of people filming on the streets were all this madness is going this one crazy video where all these people breaking in his s*** and it's got runs the street another guy hits my car and goes flying to the end of car takes off bro it's mad and then you just smashing through Soho and breaking into art galleries and stealing everything and it's also have chaos chaos you inevitably will get destruction I mean that's that's what happened why you need structure is why you need to keep my I am no fan of the government I'll be the first one to tell you I am no fan of big government however you do

call it in the hunting world there's like a dispute between the hunting world and the Tactical world in the guns easiest world and they called the hunting world fuds the gun remake of Elmer Fudd his work is crazy folks Elmer Fudd who's always been hunting Bugs Bunny now he's hunting Bugs Bunny with a scythe which is it's the eating Bugs Bunny with a shotgun at least he dies quick Vegas shooting so they like everyone in media wanted to stay away from God so I'm like with a siphon explosions or okay you know Looney Tunes so this is a new version right this is completely new it's not like they took the gun out oh my God this is so weird. It's so sick and he just stick of dynamite in his mouth and he blows his f****** face off that's okay I mean what is first of all what kind of f****** s***** Dynamite I know right that's the worst lesson you teaching kids no Dynamite safety because Dynamite just makes your face dirty first second and then and then teaching kids there's no consequences to Dynamite but then it fixes it with dynamite and it says coming soon that is the dumbest should have ever seen in my life. It's so weird depending a gun-toting my mind goes okay this is more of a cultural thing but I think I think there was an attempt to be made to erase the idea of firearm ownership in this country because I think there are a large lot of Pilates like me like we grew up even though I didn't grow up with Firearms I still grow up with an understanding. I was I was taught about to commit to a certain degree in school now so what it tells me is I'm assuming the demographic of people that are going to be watching that are large it would be largely you and I who kind of grew up with that in the past for the Nostalgia effect but then also a new generation of kids going to be watching that as well and we all grew up without my front having the the shotgun the hunter with the shotgun the gun debate in this country by like you get people like Joe Biden talking about you know what you need is a shotgun you don't you don't need AR-15 shotgun shock who needs an AR-15 for hunting you pasteurize Elmer Fudd and you take away his shotgun bilar you get people like Joe Biden talking about you know what you need is a shotgun you don't you don't need AR-15 shotgun shock who needs an AR-15 for hunting you castrized Elmer Fudd and you take away his shotgun

Magic the Gathering is now racist Magic the Gathering is it's amazing how many people did blackface it's very strange it's very strange strange on Primetime TV Jimmy what's wrong with you everybody's like oh you're mr. t for Halloween it was never like it's a very strange thing you know you can do white faced no problem. What is Magic the Gathering invoke Prejudice card opponents only using some of that match the skin color of their opposing creatures shows how f***** up everything is there's a lot of things going out there right now apparently it seems like a perfect storm engineer the downfall of society you would do it and several steps you would have a reality show president where everybody's mad at him and then all the Liberals get their feathers in a ruffle and everybody gets real super uptight and and then this is big divide between the left and the right that's kind of manufactured and you have this disease to block everyone inside force people to not work so if your business falls apart you could be the most hard-working diligent disciplined person who's always at work an hour early always has your eyes. In your teas Crossing you still go broke you're still f***** and then you have this George Floyd thing and then boom it just ignites the Powder Keg the other thing that's around all this is this social media which is you know I'm only going to post things that are just going to completely make everyone that sees whatever I'm posting emotional and and filled with rage whether you're on the left or on the right my goal is to enrage people that's the golf and then I just get spun up over and over so you're taking all these little incidents and you're multiplying one times thousands and thousands of views like when he was Tony Soprano he was more like a hippie you know he was very laid-back you know he were like Birkenstocks and like a bandana on his head and I told Marsha kelly didn't really talk like that I wipe my ass with your face that guy at all he would say to me like before the season let's go down have dinner diversity he was in O an actor theater God tell you what I wrote a kids book called Nikki douching it turned it into a movie and Michaels in it and Paulie Walnuts and Johnny sack and I was in Jim's trailer and he did the movie with Brad Pitt and SE with Jim and Chip said I won't beat the f*** I will beat the f*** out of him for the money he paid me I'm not f****** doing it swear to God for all the people go up all the various people that eventually talk s*** about him go up and praise Harvey why oh my God it's so bizarre it's so strange cuz they were intimidated that he had that much power over people's careers and they didn't feel like their voice would be heard of that people would you know take him serious about the f*** you basically I half-ass hello maybe he was way above I was beneath him he never got punched in the face a map in your mind of where the territory is yeah I mean I would say there are several ways it could go but unfortunately the Dynamics look almost unresolvable if somebody does not speak for the movement and with it being unresolvable you've got a conflict between rural people and urban people you have a conflict between and those who are self-declared allies and Ally doesn't really mean a lie but foot soldiers on behalf of this movement and people who won't go along with it and what I'm trying to raise people's awareness of right now is that there's something in us being raised in the US there's something in us that thinks that the Great Leap Forward in China cannot happen here what happened in Cambodia cannot happen here that Nazi Germany cannot happen and you know the Soviet Union couldn't happen here I don't know what characteristic it is that people think makes it impossible I don't think it's impossible I think if there is a characteristic that makes it unlikely it is the structure it is the Constitution which I would argue is showing its age but none the less the values that America aspires to the isn't that the world does pay attention to us and still even with all of our Brokenness allows us to lead it that reason is that the values that were described were honorable even if they even if we didn't meet them but what we aspire to be was great and I resent Trump's make America great again because their populations for whom it has simply never been great right so I think that last a in Maga is just a finger in the eye for people and it was designed to be but the structure what'd aspires to be as great and heading in the direction in which it could be great for everybody is obviously the right thing to do but what we are now doing and the thing that troubles me most about this movement is that if you listen to it closely and I have listened to it very closely it is explicitly about disassembling the very things that make the West marvelous right it is anti-science. I feel bad for any listener public apology already f*** this thing up but both having trouble thinking to 2020 the greatest year of all golf cuz I like talking about positive stuff but what are you thinking is that people realize society and civilization and you know when the series of events can happen it could derail our life radically I don't think people really aware that that was possible before I think there's a lot of things going on a lot of competing mindsets and can cook the competing ideologies and there's a lot of anger going on in the world right now and then there's this fear that comes with a pandemic everything like pandemics ramp up everything like cuz I have to think about it was thinking about it as just a pandemic but it's also there's a mind diseased like a fear disease that's sweeping through the land to your resources are being used up in so many different directions that it's like you're a little over run some of the reasons why people reacting so violently to things lately there's everything is just add up I feel like there's this like a certain level of other things that you can tolerate in your life when you have so many things compounding and piling on top of each other it's like the reason why I said if he would get road rage is because it's not just here in the car and someone does something stupid but your your senses are heightened because you know you're going 60 miles an hour so you're very aware it's a very different feeling right road rage is people being a p**** like you being mean while you're locked in this little box cuz you know that you can't nobody can say anything to you but it's not just that it's fear but your f****** driving fast and it's like if it causes us to be like extra ramped up and I think that's how we are right now with everything because of covet on have covid even if you're not worried about what it's done is this made ramp up so everybody's almost got road rage so everybody is a little bit more stressed out than they've ever been before living or ramped up and everything is exaggerated and everything is blown out and there's so many more instances of scary things that you're being seen in the news and so few instances of really nice things and it's like weird combination of things to try to manage amped up and everything is exaggerated and everything is blown out and there's so many more instances of scary things so you're being seen the news and so few instances of really nice things and it's like a weird combination of things to try to manage

I'm happiest when I'm working really hard on like when you make one of those videos and then you get a bunch of positive feedback from it that's got to be amazingly satisfied for free it's undeniable it's so good tell me those are so good and so mean yes evaluate someone's impression you have to pretend you like it does know the saying you can't lie you can't say it's not good it's really good guy will that he would when you said all let's play it he was like I'm leaving if you put your friend to leave your plate at and by the way I don't want it another rats that he does the beginning of a show I haven't seen their great man the great he's doing with no audience but they've been really funny and really good point it's like he's actually ramped it up this pandemic is beginning of the show Ranch although the act exactly but I also acted like anyway I think it's funny and I think it doesn't make him any less brilliant it doesn't make you show any less great and show is great I think we both admit it to make a video where he was getting g********* your wife into like what's wrong with you. There is a comedy different taste different strokes butt I would Bill Maher do it swing with cocaine is her voice what she does that because she has a lot to answer herself she'll be like

the problem is is no balance cuz almost all the stuff that they're angry about cuz that's what they want to text and so tweet and Facebook about and very little of the stuff like what the ratio of like really cool stories like that make you feel good to like other Horror in the news with the ratio 90 something to want from Africa across the f****** ocean is going to work out what is a what is a still could fly that far all the way across the ocean in that crazy where is it right now like I know what happened barely, but what is it what does it do monster and eats people every year it happened and it's getting it's getting worse right right say that and it makes sense it's getting worse and this is not an excuse for like the carbon emissions what it was like I don't think so I mean that's not what the other article I just read that video though what is a massive dust storm turns the sky red and Cindy's capital.of possible for I think how long is a dust storm last in there man you got to go to the grocery store and you're literally walking through a dust storm so you dressed like one of them dudes from The Lord of the Rings right right but those same people now you are the fluffy ones who are the San people just stays the same it doesn't it doesn't but we have to listen to climatology a hundred percent human impact on the climate change its real I'm f***** up the Earth how ever even if we didn't f*** it up this place is so unstable even if it wasn't us to asteroids the hurricane under it like 10000 years of second you just see the hole in the world except those days we got to figure out that Astro we're not looking enough of the sky at 3% get different answers from different folks and you ask them how long it would take before they could deflect something forget clip just could come on the news today we we just saw this asteroid and a different day and Hills on Ventura Boulevard and had this f****** billboard and he had a bunch of them all over the place but they are those billboard that showed the very Day the Earth was going to end like it was like it had a date on it do you remember it was like somewhere around this week we listen to people who just like put leeches on people that are allergic to the sun actually you know why they did have a weird culture the mines had a weird call Sarah was his real name much about it I know the temple and they didn't they kill virgins who knows how beautiful like these amazing structure that one of their pyramid because one of them was for murder for their crops speculated that there was a certain platforms that they would do sacrifices on the as texted I think the most sacrifices in one day and he was like a couple of days they they killed somewhere around I want to say I want I want to say more than 80,000 people they sacrificed yeah when they completed this one of the temples how do you boil that made them one after another that takes a log victims of human ancient Mayans who threw children into Waterfield Caverns were likely boys and young men not virgin girls as previously believed so by human sacrifice children into water filled Cavern imagine that what you you believe in superstitions so much you want to drown a kid so that so that the crops come back that's a sign you feeling out of control they don't know the answer is just something they can't figure out and then the people in almost all religions especially the ancient ones they they lean towards these really ridiculous things like that who's sacrifice brings that up if we do this killer kids that make us act like Cain and Abel right and if you're God wanted you to kill your children that's a horrible God that tells you to kill somebody saying yes because you have to trust God even ride tells you something you can imagine is real right even rhino in your gut is wrong to murder your kid is God telling you to and you were about to lie like okay good I was just checking bro..... I like you now where I think things are Elijah these kids were yelling at him and they call them bald head is a bald guy and so he asked God to sic a she-bear on the kids and it killed like 40 kids is she there I wish I could remember exactly what what Metzger how he explained it to me but it was the insult was much worse than just calling him bald head you just have to give to put it into perspective with the time like the way he was saying it to him was much worse than we would imagine we're looking at it in terms of modern language as he was walking along the road some boys came out of town and jilted him get out here baldy they said get out of here baldy he turned it looked at the okay the curse this is his I think that's a real weird translation I don't think that's the the best translation the way I've heard it before it's not written exactly that way cuz it that more than one translation of the lore the two bears came out of the woods and mauled 42 of the boys I got a bear story the ancient way of saying it and that was what Metzger explain to me this is finally got another there's another there's another way of putting the words together that Metzger was saying it. They were going to kill him his version as I could tons of translations of it like they were threatening violence I think that's one of the things that Metzger was trying to say like they were threatening violence to the guy sent a bear I think two dude I was in Baldi

I want to talk about covid I do what are your what are your thoughts thoughts on the lockdown yeah well let's put it this way I'm not speaking in a vacuum here I've heard a certain amount of your take and my take is a bit different I am very concerned about Sardis Cove to I'm not concerned about it because it is as lethal as we feared it might be it isn't as lethal as we feared it might be I'm afraid of it for other reasons one it is brand new to us evolutionarily it just showed up in human beings and so in my opinion we screwed up the lockdown badly because we went half way that a very short very intense lockdown could have ended it in at that would have been the smart thing to do and unfortunately the political will was not there but if you're I am looking at Leland with other Envy imagine at this moment being free of SARS code to locked down severely for 6 weeks or something along those lines and we should have driven it to Extinction and the problem is that that runs afoul of all kinds of things putting civil liberties concerns which I also hold I hate the idea of a government Crackdown in which they're dictating with whom you associate and all of the rest and I hate it as much as anyone but we are dealing with a brand-new landscape when it comes to a global pandemic and what's more we are dealing with a virus that I think is not what we have been told it is how so so I have initially I thought that this was a borne virus that had been transmitted to people from the wild probably through the bushmeat trade probably through the seafood market in Wuhan in fact Heather and I were in the Amazon where we had no connectivity to anything for a couple weeks when we came out what was then called novel coronavirus was just beginning to be discussed and it so we became aware of it as we came out of the Amazon Echo what the heck is that and I looked in and immediately I saw the story adds up you know it's a coronavirus of a kind that's known to circulate and bats there's a seafood market and I thought okay I know what the story is a night tweeted I don't know enough about the story yet but looks to me like the blue Hound on seafood market is the source that the virus comes from bats and we have to talk about the bushmeat trade which is always been a terrible idea and immediately people tweeted back in me so you think it's just a coincidence that there's a biosafety lab level four Wuhan where this started and I thought one that's a heck of a coincidence and so I started to look into it I retracted the tweet I said maybe I don't know enough about the store yet and I started to look into it and I went down the rabbit hole because as much as we have been assured by a huge range of experts that this has to have been a back born coronavirus transmitted to people possibly through pangolins do some intermediate host that we don't yet know that story looks less and less likely and the story that is looking more and more likely when I would call the lab leak hypothesis is looking ever stronger and anyway I've been in contact with other people who have reached that conclusion we have faced all kinds of push back but innocence again we still don't know it is possible that this came from the wild without and meddling but the the virus itself has several components that suggest that it is actually the result of manipulation in the lab and I'd escaped probably from the Wuhan Institute of virology but there's another lab in Wuhan it. It may well have escaped and we may be dealing with consequences are the result of the the fact that it is manipulated in the lab so one of the techniques that allowed to study viruses like this that uses something so the research is called gain-of-function research gain-of-function research means you are taking a virus and you are adding a capacity to it in order to study how it works and then one of the things that is done to study how it works is something called packaging where a virus has infected creatures infected with the virus and then the virus is allowed to between individuals of that species that can also be done in tissues and cellular tissues where tissues are infected and the virus is allowed to spread from one cell to the next and what happens is evolution so there's a strong possibility that this virus was understudy that it was enhanced in the laboratory and that we are dealing with consequences that are the result of that enhancement that make it more dangerous then it would otherwise be and what it what do you believe those enhancements are well so the enhancements a one of the enhancements there is a something called a foreign site a fern site in the Genome of this virus foreign sites are not known doesn't mean they don't exist but they're not known from other beta coronavirus has and this furnace site is conspicuous it's conspicuous in that it is in the genome as an insert rather than mutation of nucleotides that were there it's like somebody spliced it in that's one thing which could happen naturally but it may well not have and it has a flanking sequence which has this is probably going to be hard for people to follow but nucleotides that is DNA code for proteins which are made out of amino acids and amino acid called Arginine and there are two argentines coded for in the Genome of this virus but because there are so many possible codes triplet codes and only 20 or so amino acids there's redundancy and so which code is used to trigger the production of where they the inclusion of an arginine is variable and the two argentines are coded for in a way that is not seen in in nature in this way very frequently so let's just say there are elements of the genome that are usn suggest possible laboratory manipulation the fern site that I referred to that has been inserted either by a natural process or by a laboratory process greatly increases the transmissibility of this virus which means various things it could be the explanation for why this virus is infecting so many different tissues and people who get sick right the list of symptoms is huge here and that's a very troubling thing from the point of view of treating it medically is all of the things that can go wrong with the body wants your infected it also means that the virus is very good at jumping between people and that high transmissibility is obviously one of the things that makes covid-19 such a difficult pandemic to control right it's hopping between people so readily that it just runs away so and then there's a third question that I have which is maybe that there's something about the fact I don't want to Safe act as if it is a fact but if this was an escape from the laboratory then the virus I mean just as you know maybe we'll end up talking about the telomere problem in mice which you spoke to Eric about when he was on your podcast last but evolution to the lab evolution in the lab takes place and changes that the p InCharge want to happen occur and then things they're not even thinking about occur there's adaptation to the laboratory environment the people who work in labs are unaware of and so one of the questions I have is this virus is highly transmissible unless you're Outdoors then it seems almost not transmissible that's a very conspicuous mean for one thing back to live outdoors right so is it possible that this virus has adapted to the laboratory environment in indoor environment and then it has forgotten how to get transmitted outdoors and if we are casual about the outdoor environment that actually it could really learn that trick that we should take it we a we need to be outdoors for various reasons one the. Vitamin D is very protective in the case of covid-19 prevents the transmission and you end up way less sick if you have proper vitamin D so in the northern hemisphere here while the sun is shining we should be outdoors we should not walking down those environments at all we should also be very careful Outdoors right because any time we allow it to be transmitted Outdoors that is going to get creative evolutionary signal signal that's going to retrain the virus to be transmitted Outdoors which is not something we want at the moment this might be an advantage that we have and we're going to lose it if you're not careful which is why I'm very careful and why I wear this thing so that you know I can pull it up at a moment's notice if I'm going to talk to somebody because even though I think the virus is very difficult to transmit Outdoors which is something we've seen in the date out of South Korea for example it could learn that trick is it easier for a while now and there's no good reason that we don't know we should know because it could be that it's UV light UV light is very powerful destructive stuff but if it's UV light than that suggest it's difficult to transmit Outdoors during the day and it should be easy to transmit Outdoors at night and not UV light then that's not likely to be at so there is something weird going on with viral load maybe it's not weird but it's it's weird for those of us who learned how viruses work from the the usual textbook diagrams were a virus gets into a cell and triggers an infection but here it seems like if you talk to someone bro your chances of picking it up from them even if they're sick is pretty low but if you talk to somebody for an extended. Of time where you're constantly breathing air that they're exhaling then your chances go up up up and up and this is so there's a possibility that just exposure to UV light as people are even if they're outside talking for the same amount of time just a fact that these particles are going to the air in the sunlight that it kills the virus's ability to transmit it's possible I don't know what I would say first of all I do think I am very much in favor still of driving this thing to extinction by being properly sober about it briefly is one issue that seems to be sure when is he seems to be an issue when someone says that it might have come out of a lab this is a right-wing left-wing thing for whatever reason you get label to a right-wing conspiracy theorist if you think it came out of and you people on the left are so they're so willing to dismiss that without any real evidence we've been poisoned by these these ideologies when it comes to conspiracy or whether or not something is actually true but we've been fed the wrong information that that stuff is if you don't believe the official narrative that's being discussed on CNN you must be some sort of a right-wing nut right can I face that of course I faced it and it's hard to escape it right so I've tried to be very careful I've described it as a hypothesis which is what it is I have tried to show that they're different probabilities for the different origin hypothesis even China now he admits that it wasn't from the seafood market one of the things that is in my opinion the strongest piece of evidence that there that the lab leaked hypothesis may be correct is that there is a missing phase in the evolution of this virus when a virus jumps from one species to another it is not well positioned is typically very poor and it's job because it doesn't have any evolutionary experience with that host so it's not good at Lee between that host cells which means that it's always in very small numbers and it's not good at leaving from one individual to the next that's the key question when something leaps into a new species and then it becomes a pandemic is because it has solved that second problem it has figured out how to infect that creature in such a way that the creature spread to others of its kind there is no evidence in the case of this virus that that happened it showed up in Wuhan and media it became pandemic it already had experience now how it got that experience we don't know there are evolutionary ways this could have happened right it could be that we have not found the initial population that circulated in right or could be that it circulated in a creature that we haven't found either but the fact that there is no evidence that it shows up in Wuhan and immediately spreads that this virus was well adapted to ourselves and well adapted to transmit between individuals and that is conspicuous one way you could get there is if somebody a had added components to a virus in order to make a transmissible to humans so the research question would be research that was interested in discovering what a pandemic and humans of a bad p*** coronavirus would be like we could do something about it maybe we could prevent it maybe we could create a vaccine ahead of time but if you're creating a virus that has enhanced capacity to infect humans in order to study what will happen if a virus ever escapes into the human population then you are running the risk the virus you are studying will escape would they have added something like a fern site absolutely it is established in the literature that the addition of a fern site makes the virus much more transmissible in human tissue so we're going to study this would be high on your list of things to do you could also passage it through human tissue in order to effectively train it on the Infectious pathway inside of people which again we might be suffering the downstream consequences of that if it escaped the Wuhan Institute of virology so these things have an amazing impact and I hear a lot that what does it matter it's now we just have to deal with it which is nonsense because a we need to have it never happen again be there may be things that we could understand about what its nature is that would help us fight it but see we have a really serious problem now because all but a few of the world's leading virologist the experts in coronavirus in particular have sworn that this must have come from nature and couldn't have come from the lab which is nonsense why do you think they did that unfortunately this goes back to our earlier discussion our scientific system is broken we need our scientist to be empowered to tell us what we need to know and we need them there for to be freed from a system where they are fighting for grant money in order to continue their work this entire group of people is now in Jeopardy because if this turns out to have been a leak from the lab then we are all suddenly going to become a gain-of-function research puts Humanity in Jeopardy that one accident in gain of function research can cause the evaporation of who knows how many trillion dollars it could cause and this is one of the other things I wanted to say to you about the danger of letting this virus run its course if we don't stamp it out we a don't know that people who have been infected are not going to continue to have outbreaks we don't know that yet we don't know whether or not people who've had it are going to be immune to it in the future that's probable but it's not certain and we don't know that it's not going to become a permanent fellow-traveller of humanity the way flu is and even if this thing evolved to become flu-like if it became as unserious as the flu the flu is very serious and the cost of humanity pays for having flu circulate every year is it so even if the only thing that has happened in the long-term if we let it go and it evolved into another flu-like pathogen then we have increased the number of flu-like pathogens that we have to deal with annually substantially and that would be a major loss to humans so my sense that we should be much more aggressive about dealing with this is really about the fact that I think we have a short time Horizon in which to deal with it that it will learn new tricks and it will become harder to defeat the longer that we play around with it and so an aggressive short to remove it's really you know if the lesson the pulling off the Band-Aid or not doing ourselves any favors by pulling it off slowly what do you think we should do right now well I would say it mean the problem is a much harder argument to make now than it was at the beginning because we're also SEC of lockdown I mean Portland still under full lockdown but not when it comes to protest of course not that's the other problem right is a massive hypocrisy in the way we were treating businesses versus treating protests it's an epidemic of hypocrisy in New York City allow people when they're asking people that have tested positive for covid-19 you not allowed to ask them whether or not they've been in a protest they're doing contact racing without valuable data because they they want to be Progressive that's insane he's insane so you asked me what I would do I would and again I don't want to be in this position you know months in here I want to be in this position months ago of saying the right thing to do is a 6-week lockdown that will be unbearably painful but hopefully it'll be short and then intense contact tracing but we've done a lot essential businesses open well we've done done a half-assed lockdown and the thing that we've done that I find the most troubling is that we have not bootstrapped a mechanism for high-quality ubiquitous testing because if you want to do if you did a 6-week lockdown a real lockdown right hold your breath and get through it then you open back up with testing that's so high quality and so Universal that you can spot anything that happens and you can treat it locally right you don't come into work if you don't pass this test and if your work put you in contact with other people are going to test you regularly right if you did that we could have driven it to very low levels and then we could have dealt with the flare ups but what we're doing now is richest gambling and it's insane right we're gambling and no that I can detect there is no movement that says open back up and be very aggressive about things like masks my feelings if you're pushing open back up you ought to be pushing things that would make opening back up as safe as possible that I can detect there is no movement that says open back up and be very aggressive about things like masks my feelings if you're pushing open back up You Oughta be pushing things that would make opening back up as safe as possible

how did we get here it's 20/20 we are facing a global pandemic which incidentally I do want to talk to you about okay we are facing a global pandemic we are facing rioting in the streets a movement that showing signs of a maoist challenge to the most fundamental aspects of the West right and we are going to have to choose between Donald Trump and Joe Biden what neither one of these people is capable of or inclined towards the kind of leadership that you have just described we would need the grade so that means that a very at the very least if we do not divert our course right if November comes and we are choosing between those two than that means we're putting off any solution at least four years because the president the president would be essential to changing our course right and this is just built into these parties now right Obama I can't figure out why it's the case I really like Obama personally he seems like the right guy to me but his his administration at a at a policy level is indistinguishable from Bush and some ways it was worse so what we've got is parties that decide what we get to choose from and the game is to provide from having any choice that could possibly solve the problem so we have to fix that we have to address that problem and we have to break their Stranglehold and you know that In fairness Trump was a challenge to that two-party duopoly he's not really a republican right front but he's also not really an alternative it's like a third crime family right now it's not a solution so we have to get that solution which means we have to get by the parties Trump prove that was possible right I think if there was ever a time where an independent party has a chance now is the time for someone steps in and has a real solution and I also in terms of the distribution of that information and Now's the Time because you can just post something on YouTube where you are demonstrating like their step by step process could take hours to do it I just want to do and this is how I'm going to do what you break those down two clips almost like a podcast and if someone was a person of substance that we really believed in we said that a person can really do this this actually could happen let's vote independent what could happen they don't have a monopoly on the distribution of information anymore and that's terrified them to the used to be able to count on the shills on the left and the right to get the word out for them but they don't have that anymore you have people that really don't have an ideological foundation in either one of them that are talkin and the reaching millions of people that's a rare moment I'm and this is in my opinion the very best time for someone to step in that's not they're not compliant they're not they don't have to give it they don't they don't need that policy machine behind them there or the political machine behind the well I've got a plan to find a really big podcast to get an appointment of those out there you haven't encountered a big cock in the Rock and Jocko willink is the Dark Horse plan and the plan looks like this we draft two individuals we find two people one of them is center-left and one of them is center-right and these people have to have certain characteristics of a minimum asset they have to be patriotic they have to be courageous and they have to be highly capable right but that's it and weep together we draft them with the following plan that they will govern as a that is to say every important decision will be discussed and they will decide what to do as a team and only in cases where they cannot reach agreement or whether something has to be whenever something has to be decided on the very short time scale like a military decision does the person who inhabits the role of the president governor loan can we draft these folks and then four years down the road they switch and go ahead run for president now runs for the vice presidential spot in the one who was vice president now runs for president and they continue this way until one of two things happens either we vote someone else in or one of them is inhabited the office of President twice and is no longer eligible and then that person has to be replaced so we have a patriotic team governing together from Center left and center right try to run this country well that's what happens to everybody that doesn't agree but then that's an obstacle your spelling out an obstacle that I would argue is solvable that we know these people who died so that's the plan so far and talk about what problems it solves as much as you want so I could be wrong I'm happy to see other people swap Jen but my proposal would be Admiral William mcraven on the right you know that is okay he is a Navy SEAL former Navy SEAL he was until 2018 the chancellor of the University of Texas he is a very cogent center-right Republican he was the lead on the Martin rate and he is I think universally respected by people who know him I've never heard anybody say negative things about him on the center-left so here's my point guards together on Admiral your country needs you it really does never more than now and I know that the job of President is a sucky one I'm sure the job of Vice President even worse but please consider this plan because the Republic is in Jeopardy now we already know but Andrew Yang is up for the job because he ran for office you know faced appallingly stupid obstacles that I in my opinion may be the reason that he's not the nominee I'm so here we got two people one of them I think we'll do so out of Duty the other is crazy enough to want the job in the first place and what are they well they're both Patriots they're both courageous and they're both highly capable the road out don't know the Navy SEAL gentleman but last part of the plan right which is that we Americans have to get over the idea that when somebody runs for office especially the Office of the President that the right reaction is to ask them a million questions about what they will do in office What policies they Advocate this is absurd presidents don't make policy they certainly influence what policy is made but the important thing about a president is that they listen to the right sort of people in that they have a mind Capo processing with the here so that they can integrate the information necessary and in the case of this plan we're talking about two people who would do that as a team so what I would really be interested in as they are running against Trump and Biden is hearing who it is that they would bring into Administration how would they make decisions about the things that matter to us and figuring out who they would bring in I think it's bound to be far more informative than dogging them about you know what they're going to do about Healthcare and how they're going to pay for it this thing about asking someone what they're going to do though is it does Influence People whether or not they're willing to vote for that person they want to see a plan I know what you're saying is a reasonable person who understands the system but for the average American they do want to see a plan to how to get out of a lot of the message that we say well you know the funny thing is we think a lot of things are true about what people want for one thing we've been told that people are stupid and the they're hopeless and if and I mean you're really one of the earliest innovators here you have found that people that we've been told have an attention span so short that they can only deal with a sitcom are interested in a three-hour conversation about complex topics with people from all over the map right people are ready to listen to what I'm trying to say is we have a wrong idea right in our in our sense of what elections are in really that wrong idea isn't stop the fact that we think we want to hear the plan it's about the fact that we know that our power in the system is so limited that the only way we could possibly exert any influence on the policy that gets made is if we can get somebody to promise us something into a camera and if they're embarrassed not to do it when I get an office and we also know that doesn't work soon as I vote for any competent courageous Patriot actually don't care in what direction they're ruling yes I would prefer that they were Progressive because I believe we need to make progress or we will perish but any courageous capable Patriot is good enough because a courageous capable Patriot will do way better than we are doing with the current method here in what direction they're ruling yes I would prefer that they were Progressive because I believe we need to make progress or we will perish but any courageous capable Patriot is good enough because of courageous capable Patriot will do way better than we are doing with the current math

graduate students studying bats in Michigan and I was interested in evolutionary trade-off that's my signature thing and there was a very good piece of work from a gyno George Williams great evolutionary biologists about the evolution of senescence that is to say the process by which we grow feeble and inefficient with age but most people call agent and basically that's classic explain why it is that creatures like us get old and die and the answer was basically does that you have a genome that's complex full of jeans but there aren't enough teams to have a gene for every trait that you have infector a tiny fraction of the number of genes you would need to cover all of the various characteristics you have so jeans always do multiple things and in the case teen does something that's very good for you when you're young at some cost when your old selection tends to favor it because you may not live long enough to suffer the cost and so if you have the trait that makes you powerful when you're young and you've got some cost that you're going to pay when you're old but you're not going to live together to maybe a freebie right so selection sees early life much more clearly when it sees late bifen it prefers things that help you early even at a cost of that's the basic answer it's called the antagonistic pleiotropy theory of senescence but at the point that I started working we knew that this was right we could tell that the hypothesis was true because it matched all sorts of observations about wild creatures certain creatures live longer than others even when you correct things like body size so creatures that fly live longer than creatures that are of the same type and size that don't fly why fly away from danger she can fly away from danger you're more likely to make it to an older age the better selection can see the harms that afflict you when you get there so selection doesn't prefer a bias in favor of Youth if you can fly away from danger same thing applies if you're poisonous if you have a shell you're a really good defense and selection sees your late life better tonight so we knew that this hypothesis was right but we had never found at the point that I was working in the very late 90 on this was a gene that match the description we knew that selection was finding these jeans and accumulating them but we have never found one of the genes in question and I was very conspicuous I called that the missing pleiotropy so anyway I was sort of an alert about this was a curious fact and I saw a talk given by somebody who is talking about telomeres and he was talking about Tela mares and their relationship to cancer tequila mirrors are repetitive sequences of DNA at the ends of our chromosomes and they grow shorter every time a cell divides right so it's like a fuse or a counter that takes down each cell division and it drops to zero and in or not Zero by drops to a number that the cell refuses to divide after that and some people were working in one set of Labs on the possibility that this was causing us to grow people with age because if your cells can't divide anymore then they won't replace themselves and your tissues won't be able to maintain right another group was studying this question of telomeres with relation to cancer and they were saying Eureka every time we look in a cancer it has this enzyme called telomerase turned on which elongates Tela mares and these two groups were not talking to each other they were each claiming that they were about to cure their respective disease hundred percent if we can activate km then we can lengthen your life and the other group was saying if we can turn off the alarm right we can cure cancer right and I put two and two together and I said this is the missing pleiotropy here we have something that is protecting us is helping us in youth we have a counter that is limiting the number of times a cell can divide and presumably preventing cancer right and the cost is you can't maintain your tissues forever so you grow fuel inefficient so that made a hell of a lot of sense to me I couldn't convince anybody else that this was sent why couldn't even get them to understand what I was saying because in evolutionary biology there has traditionally been a biased not against mechanism the study of cellular biology not because there's anything wrong with studying cellular biology as an evolutionary phenomenon but because early in the study of evolution we just don't have the tools to look into the cells to evolutionary biology used to thinking about the form of creatures in the behavior of creatures but not thinking about the internal mechanisms cuz it just wasn't a lot that could be said anyway I retained an interest in the cellular biology I saw these two things that needed to be connected and I started to work on the puzzle it turned out that that hypothesis would answer a great many questions that were otherwise very difficult to answer with respect to how ageing functions but there was one huge obstacle obstacle was that a fact that was well-known about mice did not fit with the idea that ceiling mirrors were fundamental to the aging process and the fact that was known was that mice had extremely long Tela mares and yet they live short lives so if it were true that the length of your telomere is dictated how quickly you were going to age then a tiny creature with very long tail and ears out of be able to places to fuse really well and it should it should a dick should the age very very slowly so I thought there's got to be something wrong with this hypothesis answers to many questions for that obstacle to be real and I thought maybe it's maybe one person has run a test and everybody else is just parroting it and I want and I looked in that wasn't the case and I finally realized that all of the mice that we had been looked at we're coming from one that there was a laboratory in Bar Harbor Maine called the Jax lab that was the source for all of the mice being used in all the Laboratories in the country and I started to wonder if there's something going on at that like maybe Mouse telomere is aren't long the ultra long telomeres of my eyes aren't real maybe that's a feature of laboratory mice and wild mice would have short telomeres in which case the hypothesis would make sense and I called up one of the leading people in the field woman named Carol greider has not won a Nobel Prize and I said Carol you don't know me, and evolutionary biology graduate student I have a question for you is it possible that all mice don't have long tail and mirrors that that's really just laboratory mice and she said well I think mice have long telomeres but it's interesting if you order must previous rather than mus musculus and order them from Europe then how long until the mirrors are. Markiplier you get them from so this is interesting so anyway we both agreed that it was really interesting she decided she was going to test the hypothesis you put her graduate student my heymann on the case we exchanged some emails and anyway they tested it and I got some ice that weren't really wild that they were much more recently in captivity and lo and behold that short dealers that was an amazing moment my prediction about senescence and cancer and aging might well be true that was important but it also raised a bunch of really difficult problems one was if it is true that all the mice that are being used to study physiology are broken in this way then how are we blinding ourselves is it possible that we are using all of these mice that would be terrible models for wound healing for sickness it's for cancer for a whole number thing how is it that we are allowing ourselves to take these mice who have been altered and using them as models for normal physiology the other problem maybe even more serious was that we use these animals in drug safety testing and the way we use them is to think about Feud come up with a drug that you thought was useful and you wanted to test whether it was to administer to people you can't really afford to give people a drug and then wait 40-50 years to figure out whether you shorten their lives right so at the point that you start testing these things on humans you're really in the final stage the way we test whether a drug is safe for long-term use or whether it is safe for your long-term life based on short uses we give large doses of it to small animals that live short lives on this and if it's going to shorten your 80 or 90 year Life by 10 or 20 years that it'll shorten the mouse's life long enough to see it but here's the problem if you've altered a mouse in the laboratory environment by favoring the radical elongation of it stealing years then it has the ability to replace its tissues indefinitely a toxin that will harm you by killing tip you may not harm that Mouse in fact it may I we help it because these mice are very cancer-prone so when we give a toxin that will damage you to a mouse that is highly resistant to tissue damage you may slow down its tumors and in fact we've seen this a number of times where a drug is given to mice and we get back the Paradox or is that not only is it not toxic it actually makes the mice live a little longer right so my contention is that we had a problem where we were testing to see if they were safe on animals that were predisposed to tell us that they were and then when those drugs were released into the human population it turned out they were not safe and people. Not a problem is I was absolutely unable to alert the world to this problem for reasons that still elude me I published my paper I went through I don't think we need to borrow your audience especially if they've been through Eric's description with the details of what happened in the attempt to bring this public attention but the world of scientists working on the question was unwilling to respond to the discovery that their model organism had this fatal flaw that was going to predispose us to see certain things and not other things in the laboratory environment the governmental commission that was charged with studying the vioxx Scandal which I believe was likely the result of something and it's 300 Page report doesn't mention mice it doesn't it was a drug for arthritis correct actually probably not heart damage and by that what I mean is if you take a drug substance that damages tissues in the human body it will show up as heart damage all of the special nature of the heart let's say that you took some drug do you know killed every 10,000 salary every thousand cell that would be destructive all over your body the heart though is a special tissue the heart has a very low capacity for self-repair at a cellular level very low for reasons we could go into if you wanted but because it has a low capacity for self-repair it is also very vulnerable to something that does some kind of General tissue damage and it's also an organ that when it fails it's absolutely conspicuous so you would expect that if we had substances that we're body-wide toxins and we released them into the public having tested them on mice and not discovering that they were dangerous that you would see relatively young people die from heart conditions which is where we would detect if there's a problem before we would detect it anywhere else so anyway though the government study this problem after after vioxx and it put two a report and reports 300 Pages it doesn't mention mice it doesn't mention the genus mocity think they did that to protect themselves well what I know is that I attempted to call their attention after the report came out I looked at it and you know it had a physical form that also had it lives online you can search it and I could see that telomere is weren't mentioned my threat mentioned rodents aren't mentioned and so I tried to alert them to the fact that they had screwed up and they blew me off it wouldn't talk to me so that is it raises a question and I to the state cannot answer the question I can't even say whether or not so when I tried to raise this issue I have run into various kinds of resistance I raise it with journalists what I get back is typically I get interest back at first and they said okay I'm very interested in the story I'm going to pursue it make a few phone calls and they come back to me and they either Lego silent or they say well I talked to some people and they said it's been taken care of right well I don't know what it's been taken care of means I published a paper that said your hypothesis about what's going on here is my I propose a mechanism whereby to Yulia telomere elongation would have happened in the breeding colonies in question and it's been taken care of as described something that could be in a normal problem well not only let's say that it was taken care of right let's say that they have altered the the breeding protocol and they fixed the problem you still have all those drug tests that they've done for you got all those drug test you've got all the papers you've got my God paper which proposes a hypothesis and I have a right to say actually it turns out to be correct or it wasn't right but so anyway we got back all of these weird answers it's been taken care of or even more curious is the argument well everybody knows that the mice are bad models which is insane because this telomere that response from several people went to several different that I was told who they contacted what I was told was that they contacted somebody and this is what they heard until they ate their enthusiasm evaporated at the point they make a phone call so aware of the consequences of this problem with these mice again this is we have a serious problem it's not about mice it's not about virality right it's a general systemic failure of reason so what I encountered as a young somewhat naive graduate student was an instance which frankly woke me up to the fact that my colleagues even when human life was it on the line we're going to pretend they didn't know what was quite possible they didn't know until I put out my hypothesis and Carol drider later pretended she didn't know what I was talking about public the empirical work that revealed that indeed lab lab mice are unusual and having long telomere after that work was out there's no excuse for not investigating what the consequences were I cannot explain it except to say that the culture of science has so rotten that this sort of thing is maybe standard operating procedure just protecting their ass and protect me ass of those who give them jobs and and all the work that's been done that sort of establishes that they should be doing these tests in the first place I'm sure they tell themselves some story in which they are the heroes and they are protecting us from something but I look at my own medicine cabinet and even though I am aware of what likely happened I'm in no position to protect myself or my family the only way to be protected from the downstream consequences of this error is to just not take Pharmaceuticals Jesus Christ yeah it's a it's a it's a really huge problem and the response of the system generally to shut down the lone individual need to point out a serious problem is it just breathtaking when you've when you seen it when you lived it you never go back you know you've looked into the eye of something that is willing to ignore I mean it's willing to ignore not only human life but it is willing to ignore the requirements of good science you never go back you know you look into the eye of something that is willing to ignore I mean it's willing to ignore it not only human life but it is willing to ignore the requirements of good science

anybody sound of the alarm that all this madness was going to come to fruition in the real world it's user you will you were the guy like you were the one who sang this is what's happening at Evergreen and you don't know Google it Bret Weinstein Evergreen and now it spills out into the real world just like I said it was going to you did I did I said it I said it in several different places and pretty clearly you know it could have been a bit more Precision but it was highly accurate you are highly accurate and often maligned and mocked young people didn't think it was a big deal to think Much Ado About Nothing you making a big deal about some kids that are voicing their opinions on things but what you recognized early on was that there was an authoritarian aspect of it forced compliance aspect of it that's very dangerous yeah it's all about force and you know I've started to get calls in the last week or two the people who who mocked me and others including you for making too much of what appear to be college kids going wild on college campuses some of them have started to call and say I got it wrong what do we do now and actually I appreciate those those calls in those contacts because really that is the question to tell you I'm not optimistic I think this is actually the people who are catching up to the fact that Evergreen has now spilled over into the world I have not caught up to the fact that this is Unstoppable at this point with the current configuration the absence of leadership is going to prevent us from doing what we should do and that means that the next set of predictions are far more dire what is your nexo Productions well I would say we are headed for a collision course with with history I mean really staring at many scenarios that end in some kind of Civil War and while I do think it is still possible to avert that outcome I don't know the name of the force that gets in its way that's it's really troubling what do you think these kids want what do you what do you think the people that are facilitating chaos what do you think they want what I think is some danger in casting them as one thing because we have several things fused together and that until you understand what has joined forces with what you're not going to there's no way to answer the question one thing that we're seeing is and we really have to take this back a number of years to understand why it happened but seeing occupied 2.0 now I participated in occupy originally occupied made a lot of sense it was a complaint about the tarp program and too-big-to-fail on the fact that the American public was not protected when those who had created the financial collapse were and that was a legitimate gripe and it was also a legitimate gripe at the beginning of the Tea Party Movement occupy then morphed into a an anarchist that was just simply hostile to civilization and it became absurd and so when I say this is occupy 2.0 this is the anarchist version of occupy that has now re-emerged and it has fused with black lives matter which as I've said lots of different places if black lives matter just simply meant with those words imply I'd be on board with it it doesn't it means a great deal more than that and we're beginning to see that in the last couple of weeks let's put it this way for some reason it means abolish the police which is possibly the stupidest proposal I have ever heard and it's not like we haven't seen what happens when you do that I don't let the fearful response to the obvious police brutality that we saw in Minneapolis what's the best respond we had to do something we need to defund the police and then everyone's like good job great great First Step At least well know it's at sinus presentation and I'm concerned that there is as I've also said in many places the proposals that are coming out of this movement are quite foolish the strategy is incredibly smart and so that is confusing to people because when you hear folks in the street demanding to be abolished the police you think we'll okay that's never going to happen if it even started to happen it would be so complex to make it happen that it can't possibly be they just need to blow off some steam that's not right the fact is the police in some places can effectively be halted in their tracks and really if there's one most important lesson out of the whole Evergreen Fiasco it's at the police can be withdrawn from a situation and Chaos takes a matter of hours to emerge which we are also staying in Seattle the defunding of the police which is happening in Minneapolis what are they doing in replacement of the police well I don't know and I will say the thing that is trotted out as the example that tells us that defund the police which doesn't really mean to find the place that means about the place we are told that that's safe on the basis of something like the Camden example with Camden just days sort of broke the police down but then built up a new version of the police shifted it to a different jurisdiction and look I'm not arguing that we don't need massive police reform and frankly I'd be up for a discussion of a total rethink of the way we do policing the idea that you could withdraw the police first is absolutely insane Marc Lamont Hill had a very good point about the guy who was killed what it was a gentleman's name that was killed in the drive into drive-through fast-food Place Richard so they say his name who was just drunk and compliant and peaceful until they were telling him they're going to wrap them even get me an Uber and what his point was it's a very good point why were the police even called for that this is a non-violent person who just happen to be drunk was he doing something he should have been doing yes but obviously compliant polite speaking will just like very reasonably until it escalated into this tussle and then he lost his life if they had just had some sort of a program where they were going to park your car sir or drive your car to your house we're going to call you an Uber or we going to take you home and we're going to just write you a ticket and work this out in court you're not go to jail you don't have to be arrested you want to be handcuffed you'll be treated like a monster you f***** up you made a mistake by not bad person you know as a person is trying to hurt people the police should be there for robbers murderers rapists that's that's why we need to please for and this is another one of those things this is just a guy who f***** up drunk and then as they were speaking to him clear real clear not a bad guy like the way you talkin the cops it just talking to him very reasonably even ask for an Uber I am no fan of this aggressive style of policing not a fan of the militarization of the police I've actually I mean I've had run into the police I've been hit twice by cops so it's not going to happen well one of these is a long story that goes back to search Gig in Jamaica and the other one was I was participating in a protest and when I was very young I was probably 20 and there was a protest about homelessness in Berkeley and frankly it happened without my awareness that there was going to be a protest but I happened to be nearby and I was sympathetic and so I joined it and I was coming down the street with the protest in the cop hit me with the with the Baton knocked me down so anyway it's not what this movement is really about and even if it is to the extent that it is what this movement is really about it doesn't deal with the root cause we're dealing with a symptom and it's not a symptom that you can treat an isolation well I had Jocko willink on the podcast on Monday and he had a great Point obviously Chaka was a Navy SEAL commander and worked with the Navy Seals to create programs for training and what he said is that these cops have the minimum amount of training it's at the time he's not training cinnamon street tacos 20% of their time should be spent training 20% it should be the escalation drills simulation drills educating them on how to communicate with people and very situation educating them as hell if one cop is in a confrontation with someone the next cop should step in and say let's Lissa's come down microscope go deal with this over there and I'm going to handle this and let's listen let's take this from scratch like let's work horses out and that having hire qualified police officers better trained police officers better compensated police forces so they're not taxed out is really the answer to all this and these people are there right now so who is doing the new generation from now out when when people sign up to be a police officer who's going to do this this is you've a few that we going to answer that call because they feel like they have a duty but going to have a lot of people that just they can't get other jobs until they choose that and maybe the not the cream-of-the-crop and that's very bad for people with guns to tell other people what to do I hear two things in what you're saying and one of them I fully agree with the implication what you just said is that less funding isn't the solution if anything more funding is so that we get better qualified people better training train them right we get people who are better suited to the job in the first place and then we train them better so they know what to do and I agree with that the part that I'm worried about is that I also I think I hear you grasping at straws and frankly they're familiar I hear everybody grasping at straws here and what I think is not getting sad is that brutal policing is a feature not a bug right this is part of a system that is about something else and to the extent that I think we can all recognize that there is something absolutely organic about the anger that has caused people to spill into the streets in large numbers anger is the result of a process that does not begin with the lease begins with economic phenomena and political phenomena and one of the things that Spooks me is this movement in part because it is leaderless and I would argue rudderless it is not correctly addressing the actual problem it is lashing out at things that it can see it's lashing out of anecdotes but the only solution you're the only proper solution that Saves The Republic is a solution that addresses the core problem economic despair communities that are filled with crime and violence in gangs and the people that come out of these communities with very little hope and all the models that they operate under the what would they model themselves on is what they see around them which is all this crime and they they don't have the sense that there's a very clear path out of this but let's some I want to step back to something that will stay too remote to be useful but I'm sure it isn't I would claim that this actually goes back to a shift in the Democratic party during the Clinton Administration during the Clinton Administration the Democratic party effectively switched it took up the Republican party's business model moving away from defending the interests of common people as its reason for gaining power and that created a problem so during the Clinton administration we saw the end to Aid with family to families with dependent children we saw NAFTA we saw basically an abandonment of the core resin d'etre for the Democratic party and Republican party at that point was the party of business but that doesn't really mean the party of business with Republican party was was the party of well-established large businesses which frequently meant as it was catering to their interest that it was preventing small businesses rising up that would threaten its constituents are the Democrats took up this model they went into influence-peddling as well during the Clinton Administration and they became the party of other businesses so now you have two parties that are basically dealing with competing business interest vying for power but what that does is it excludes the interests of regular folks and some regular folks have been getting the shaft ever since nobody is representing their interest they're getting wise to it and they're feeling the effects on the street there Ewing the system is rigged it's rigged against them it's not even Even lyrics against them so you know in Black communities there's a perception it specifically right against us and you know what it is but the way it is is very subtle right it's not a matter of racism being ubiquitous you know inside every Whitehead it's not like that this has very little to do with modern racism but what it has to do with is a property of our system so you know what is a cyber principal the purpose of a system is what it does it means that don't listen to what somebody says that the system is for look at what it accomplished its that's what it's for and our system basically has two things that it accomplishes it basically keeps real change from happening and the reason it keeps real change from happening is because people who are winning in the present system will continue to win the system continues to do what it does and they may lose if enchantress and starts doing something else what creates what I would argue is it kind of organic conservatism those with power don't want change cuz it threatens them and the other thing that our system does is it reproduces present patterns of distribution into the future and what that means is racism that has almost died out is still alive and well in a sense because all you have to do is take people who are born into a neighborhood that is devoid of opportunity and continue that pattern if no opportunity shows up then people who were oppressed are now going to continue to be oppressed and so it feels personal but it isn't it's just reproducing an existing pattern and a lot of that emanates from these communities that have been disenfranchised and economically distraught From Slavery like literally from that we're dealing with the Echoes of slavery and it doesn't get address and when people do bring it up and they start talking about reparations people roll their eyes and people go all so long ago but the results of that are still alive today in the South still alive today in many communities that were redlined as recently as the 1960s right that's exactly right and so we basically have set ourselves up for a confused response because there's a subtlety the fact that ancient racism people who are dead there racism still haunts us today through mechanisms of the reproduction of patterns of distribution and mind you when people here distribution they freaked out because they think you're talking about well I'm not talking about wealth and we can talk about why I wouldn't bother but what we're talking about is opportunity opportunity has been hoarded has been concentrated in some zip codes and almost totally excluded from other zip codes and so you're right the patterns of slavery moved into Jim Crow and it moved into a phase where they are very subtly infused in into our system and so it is causing people to have the sense that there is an enemy and it is out to get me when it's not exactly an enemy that's out to get you it's a pattern of having a definitely needs to be addressed and so the natural place would have been the Democratic party but the Democratic party because it has taken up with big business is not going to do it even though it would be a winning political strategy credit party is more interested in serving the political the economic interests of its actual constituents then it is serving the interests of its nominal constituents and so why are you seeing something that looks like a Communist Revolution beginning in the streets for the natural reason which is the people are feeling excluded from from their share and they are being excluded but this revolution that is beginning in our streets is no more coherent or desirable than you know then now is them and it's going to be brutal and in the mouth way or possibly the way that it unfold in the French Revolution or maybe it'll be someone you know unique version and it will get its own name but if you want the Republican survive we're going to have to prevent this from happening and because of the leader of this movement who do you even talk to who you reason with also in England send it's an all all parts of the world people are protesting and in many ways I think that's it's probably cuz love-it-or-hate-it America sort of takes the cultural lead for the world in a lot of ways when it comes to movements and particularly art and and and you know expression and I see this leaderless movement and it it seems so active two young people that do feel disenfranchised by the system so I watch them seen so many videos of these people out there screaming and cheering and chanting and they feel like they're a part of something right and they are right but what is that thing that they're a part of like what's the end goal that doesn't seem to have been really clear as day like there's kids out and they were out in Woodland Hills out there chanting no justice no peace and I'm like okay Justice you talking about are you talking about George Floyd will that in that case it seems like that guy's going to go to jail for the rest of his life and I don't know if that's Justice or not that Police Department's been disbanded I don't know if that's Justice or not but what is Justice and what is peace it's just a slogan but they feel good saying it no justice no peace but what I don't know what you're saying but you feel very passionate about what you're saying and I think of you pulled one of those kids aside and said what's your message and what are you trying to do I think a lot of them would have nothing to say and that's what that's very concerning to me I'm very concerned about that because it seems like they're very enthusiastic and passionate about an invisible enemy and an enemy that they can't they can't put on a scale they can't tangibly describe it in a way that I understand completely it just seems like the structure of things they feel like is is just it is unfortunately a zombified collective fighting a boogie man that they have invented which again doesn't mean that their frustration is not about something very real that does require a solution but to the extent these people have deindividuated and they've become a true mob and they are pushing policies that make no sense and in dangerous all men there is no neighborhood in the US that is going to be safer for the absence of the police and it really doesn't even matter how corrupt the police are the absence of the police is going to create a power vacuum and we're going to get Warlords as we're already seeing a miniature in Seattle as we already saw it Evergreen so it's not a coherent proposal but I have a concern that the reason that this is leaderless is that something that I think is unrelated I really think it's unintentional but there's something about way that influence happens in this era that has taken all of the would-be leaders and it has trap them in the gig economy and so we have a lot of people who would be in an excellent position to steer this justifiable anger at an enemy that is actually worth attacking to curb the violence and to make this a moment of useful and necessary change I would argue overdue change but those people instead of being leaders but they are influencers and influencers don't have the kind of power necessary to Faith movement and they don't have the position to negotiate on his behalf and this is very dangerous where do you think this escalates to do you have a map in your mind of where the territory is yeah I mean I would say there are several ways it could go but unfortunately the dime Amex look almost unresolvable if somebody does not speak for the movement and with it being unresolvable you've got a conflict between rural people and urban people you have a conflict between blacks and those who are self-declared allies and Ally doesn't really mean a live but foot soldiers on behalf of this movement and people who won't go along with it what I'm trying to raise people's awareness of right now is that there's something in us being raised in the US there's something in us that thinks that the Great Leap Forward in China cannot happen here that would happen in Cambodia cannot happen here that Nazi Germany cannot happen and you know the Soviet Union couldn't happen here I don't know what characteristic it is that people think makes it impossible I don't think it's impossible I think if there is a characteristic that makes it unlikely it is the structure it is the Constitution which I would argue is showing its age but none the less the values that America aspires to the reason that the world does pay attention to us and still even with all of our Brokenness allows us to lead it that reason is that the values that were described were honorable even if they even if we didn't meet them but what we aspire to be was great and I resent Trump's make America great again because their populations for whom it has simply never been great right so I think that last a in Maga is just a finger in the eye for people and it was designed to be but the structure what aspires to be as great and heading in the direction in which it could be great for everybody is obviously the right thing to do but what we are now doing and the thing that last a in Maga is just a finger in the eye for people and it was designed to be but the structure what aspires to be as great and heading in the direction in which it could be great for everybody is obviously the right thing to do but what we are now doing and the thing that troubles me

what we are now doing and the thing that troubles me most about this movement is that if you listen to it closely and I have listened to it very closely it is explicitly about disassembling the very things that make the West marvelous right it is anti-science right it does not want policy based on science infected also last week Caltech it got all of these just absolutely top-level scientific institutions to broadcast the hashtag shut down stem what oh yeah we're losing our minds because to me the idea that you would be unaware of this is hard to imagine because it was so much going on it was so thoroughly all over my feed though but I'm discovering this their stuff absent from my feed to that didn't know about and I'm finding the same thing where is it saying I don't read my feet while you don't read your Twitter feed but you're plugged into enough people your conversations in this room to be like almost nuclear before I'm paying attention to him these days just for my own personal sanity almost all social media other than posting aspire to great wealth and never have but there is power that wants to be wealthy enough that I can afford to ignore my feeds right now I have to plugged in but but anyway though the thing that's really concerning here and I you know I don't want this podcast to be all about concern the racial inequalities in science the strike files 2 weeks inspired by the police killing of George Floyd a black man who died after white police officer put people on social media or spreading word about the strike with the hashtag shutdown Academia shutdown stem and strike for black lives shutdown Academia is terrifying shut down stems equally terrifying but I mean like what takes place what do you expect well if you shutdown Academia what does it mean is representation in terms of like the what are they saying so this is so sad because truly if you if you really wanted to to raise black people out of the Quagmire to economic Quagmire they find themselves in if you wanted to do it on mask you would arm them with the most powerful tools write the most powerful tool and the tool that is best to address biases especially subtle biases is science that's that's what the scientific method does that's it's one reason for existing is that it takes that what you think and allows you to see why it is wrong right it takes your biases in forces you to see what's wrong with them that's what science is for another reason that this movement is attacking stem has to do with the connection of this movement to critical theory and critical theory didn't come from the science of the word theory is basic pilfered right is being used in the most ironic fashion critical theory is a narrative that's now becoming a religious movement and it is Auntie stem on the basis that it claims that stem at South science itself is racist inherently what do they mean when they swear they're saying critical theory investigation of biases that exist inside of our courts racial biases and that it has now morphed into something that its Originators don't recognize and don't respect that it has become basically I mean you know you've had Jordan Peterson on your podcast many times once with me and you know he what he talks about with respect to these These are cultural marxists and they are wielding this post modern Doctrine what he's talking about is critical theory right critical theory is basically a a trojan horse that exists in academic departments that are dedicated to his study and what it does is it on invents progress in other fields and that's a very uninteresting process when it's hiding away in some corner of your University or you don't have to listen to it but what has happened is it is now reached enough people that has Spilled Out into public and the nonsense that you hear about shutting down Academia shutting down stem abolishing the police all of this is standard fare in those phony Department invents progress now what do you mean by that well I mean that we have a system and you know I'm as upset about what doesn't work about it as anybody but we have a system that accomplishes a great deal and this style of thought that all of these departments that end in theory that don't actually function by Norm rules of logic or the scientific process these things are an attack they're like an autoimmune disease of the academic culture and by and large the scientific part of the academy keeps his head down and it stays away from people who believe in this stuff and it tries to do its work but what has happened is that the Dynamics the demographics have changed such that these departments which weren't taken seriously by The Sciences are now. terms of the Sciences which couldn't possibly be more dangerous because to the extent that the the argument more or less is that the Sciences are unfairly biased in favor of those who are currently successful and that that by us is actually preventing people who are not succeeding under current conditions from getting there and therefore we need to hobble these disciplines to level the playing field well imagine that America rendered its advantage in The Sciences in order to even if you could level the playing field inside of the US by doing that with you can't but even if you could this would so hablas in the world that it would be an insane policy to pursue is there any debate going on about this if you're looking at the vast majority of the scientists they represent what women what is it in European is there a lot of them there's a lot of various people of European ancestry. Asian folks less African Americans less Africans so they're saying that because of this this is clear this is clear evidence of racism total nonsense what is it sending Academia when on any normal day I would be telling you Academia was so incredibly broken and science has been so incredibly incredibly corrupted by its contact with the market that we have to fix these things because that is in and of itself a threat you know the West here I find myself saying wait a second he's people are actually telling you what they think they think science is the enemy and instead of democratizing the tools of science and giving them to the people who need the most they want to end science SOL the problems are several unfortunate they're not tremendously interesting assertive dry inside baseball stuff sort of take the legs out from under this racism argument when it comes to representation sure so first of all let me just say Academia is from Men's Lee liberal and that I mean that in both senses let's take the honorable part of it right inside of a university there every desire to bring people who do not look like the old white guys that have done so much of the past work in science there is a desire to to broaden you know so it is not true that privately scientists are harboring racist views and talking about them and then you know behaving themselves when they're around people who are of a different color it's not like that okay there's a desire to have those people show up and get the job for one thing it takes the pressure off to the extent the Department's don't look like the demographics of the country in which these departments are housed you know that raises questions and so there's a desire to bring anybody who makes it clear that that's not going on however let's say that you were you were black and you grew up in a neighborhood where the odds are stacked against you and you made it let's say that you know you had people who said wise things to you and I got you to focus on the right nothing you managed to dodge the stuff to capture so many and you made it right I said you got into Harvard you got a really good quality degree in a in a in a proper science what are you going to do with it you going to go into Academia that would be insane because I don't know what the numbers are I don't know what fraction of people who get phds actually get the jobs they praying for but it's tiny yeah because there's only so many positions and every year your graduating hundreds and hundreds of people with those degrees well but there's also a very good reason for the submissive terrible reason but there's a very easily comprehended reason universities are fueled in large measure by what's called overhead of the grants so if you get $1000000 Grant half or more will go to your University right so that's what builds the buildings and fuels to place so the university has an incentive get as many people filed Grant applications as they can and they have an incentive to hire people has Grant applications will be large rather than small so this for example is one of the reasons that science has taken up arms against theory that is to say proper scientific theoretician like me and it is instead hired people who run big expensive experiments because big expensive experiments have big ramps in those big grants bring in money but if you were University and what you wanted was to have people ride expensive Gramps were capable of getting them then what you would want to do as you would want to free those people from teaching and you would want to get people who weren't so expensive to do the work of the university and the way you do that if you bring them on his graduate students and you pay them an appalling way you claim you claim that they are not actually workers that their students and they they do most of the teaching and they do a lot of the work of the university for incredibly low amounts of money they live under poor conditions and increasingly they have to come from abroad where they are in some sense getting a deal it still makes sense but this means that we overproduce phds we give people degrees instead of money to do the work of the university in order that the people who are capable of getting the grants spend almost full-time doing that job and it's a racket so in that Eric my brother so what he honors was actually that there was an explicit conspiracy to game the Visa system in order to keep the system running then infect effectively a fake shortage of science students was created to allow the University's to basically flood the market to drive the wages down but all of these things mean that if you are coming from circumstances that have been challenged and you make it you don't want to go to graduate school in The Sciences because it's a dumb move you're going to take having gotten your head above water and then you're going to voluntarily drown and it doesn't make any sense you're much better off even as bad as you know being a doctor has become used to be a great job now it's kind of a sucky job but you're better off doing that because at least it's a job you'll pay off your loans you know you'll make it and so basically what we see is that there are lots of reasons that are rational person from certain demographics is less likely to go into the Sciences that's not racism in The Sciences it's again one of these Echoes of a past racism or a past indifference that is having huge impact on the present so these people that want to vent that think that stem is racist and they want to dismantle it what do they propose like what what Posen replacement of stem and Academia so what they want is so strange and Preposterous that it damages my credibility to even stay at I will I will answer your question okay but I know that what I'm saying sounds Preposterous okay only reason that I am so certain of it is that I talked to them directly and I watched this happen whatever rosacea but I can say that to the extent that I've actually had these conversations with people I was left completely shocked by you know there was an there was an example at Evergreen where we were in a faculty meeting and I said that the proposals that were moving through we're at threat to the enlightenment values that were the basis of the institution and what I got back was something I had heard before which was an attack not only on the enlightenment but on the idea of Enlightenment I was just so stunned I was a college professor amongst faculty and somebody was actually saying out loud that Enlightenment was a problem and nobody in the room said anything what did they mean by Enlightenment is a problem well so here's here's what I say to to people who ask me about the students in particular the enlightenment was a European project right it definitely had a light skin tone ride was it was European men was not a Jewish project but I'm not embarrassed about taking the tools of the Enlightenment and wielded they don't belong to Europe their human tools they were a discovery in Europe and arguably the discovery in Europe happened because of us exclusion of other people but at some level who the f*** cares that's of the most powerful tools ever and you can't uninvent them the thing to do is distribute them as broadly as possible but if you're in critical theory first of all you end up in critical theory any one of these fields women's studies queer studies whatever it is you have already foregone this option you don't end up in critical fee if you have the chops to do science so in effect you have people who don't stand to personally benefit from opening those doors wider because they wouldn't go through them arguing that nobody should go through those doors so those are not valid avenues for people to pursue well because the method is non-existent if you were to do these things properly you would study them with the tools of stem right but we know from we know that's not what goes on inside of these departments and we also know that the product doesn't add up from the point of view of science you can't take the claim for example that if a man decides that he is a woman than he is a woman that's not a valid claim it just doesn't stand you can't claim the Sexes Spectrum either that claim doesn't stand up these are empty and we could have a discussion about what we are to do in light of the part of gender that is flexible but we're not having that conversation because we've got an ultimatum on the table either you agree sex is a spectrum or you're the enemy so all I would say is just empirically this is what happens now I will also say one of the telling incidents that happened during the Evergreen riots is now finally it's been covered by PBS I've talked about it on my podcast a student of Heather in mine an excellent student one of the best ones we ever had as a young woman named Odette is half-black her mom is Africa Caribbean she was known to be my student and Heather student during the riots and was actually confronted and physically bullied by the rioters who accused her of being a race traitor for studying science this actually happened and what I'm telling you is that when they say your race traitor for studying science what's what specific discipline well she was studying Neri biology because because science is racist yo it's nonsense and I hear you're trying to parse it as if it makes sense and I think that I don't understand as a person who spent three years barely pay attention College I don't know how it got to that I don't know how that becomes an actual course I don't know how that gets funded I don't know how that you can get a degree from that well so what I've heard of late and I'm it may be James Lindsay who is the originator of of this phraseology but there's a term racism of the gaps and racism of the gaps is a reference to the god of the gaps hypothesis anything we can't explain and Sciences explained by God which is obviously nonsense but racism of the gaps has any place where that we see a success differential the explanation is inherently racism so if we see an absence of black people in math obviously is racist do they apply that in areas where black people Excel know because this is a self-serving modality right and so let's go back to Odette for a second trying to parse what they're saying is if it has content logical content is a mistake trying to parse it as a tactical move makes a lot of sense okay let's imagine that Odette was not the courageous person yes and that she had caved right imagine you're cornered you know you're alone you've got a mob that's actually physically confronting you for studying science if she was not a person of strong character she might have signed up with them if they had signed up with them then a now they have a potentially powerful Ally write a black person former student of or at that point I guess current student Heather in line who would say in fact science is racist evolutionary biology particularly so I was in that class yada yada yada and people are easily influenced and that many Believe by that would probably cause a lot of people to Cave into that and giving it at just for Conformity just of the people accept them yes and so thank goodness that Odette is somebody who is up incredibly strong character who really got the message of evolutionary biology very deeply and there is nothing that they could have said or threatened her with it would have caused her to make the move. processing a tactically is important what they're doing is tactical and what they did with shutdown stem tactical they were proving their power right they were able to get the most important scientific institutions to broadcast a demand to shut down stems that's an amazing level of power and actual scientist that are in disciplines that are legit like evolutionary biology what a long time contacted Richard Dawkins as this was happening because I didn't see anything on his feed that suggested you know he had made a statement I thought would be powerful him to do for him to do it he was totally unaware what's going on right to have the most important institutions broadcasting this thing something about our environment is not calling it to the attention of people who might be in a position to say something and the whole thing is it's setting us up where we're from Mendes danger and what what do you think their motivation is power power shutdown stem and what do they do are they thinking this far ahead they're not playing this long game okay I would just I would tell people who aren't aware of me and what I think and believe that I am very Progressive I am very interested in making a fair resume I know you I know you are so what I'm about to say sounds like one of those right-wing crazy things what they want well imagine the following but first of all this talk about reparations for second okay I'm not a fan of the idea of reparations I think it would be a terrible failure would be a disaster but I do believe that something of very substantial magnitude is Justified I just don't think reparations is the ants completely gray okay I think reform in terms of communities I think spending massive amounts of money to rebuild communities and give people hope yes economic opportunities massive investment communities that have been systematically and American blacks and American Indians at the top of the list because I believe they have a special claim is a protected Native Americans distraught because they've been subjugated to this weird position when they're stuck on these reservations I will come back to the city maybe but I think there's something very special that happened with black sand with Indian it's not exactly alike but it has to do with their different origin stories of these two populations have both suffered parallel even know what to call it an obstacle unlike anyone out there imagine to do what this movement is is an attempt to create a slant in every single interaction that does the job of reparations its reparations 24 hours a day 7 days a week in every room in every institution in every context right now that will be the on invention of America it is in some weird a mirror for the America that blacks and Indians have faced they have faced in America in which everything was slanted against them in his grown less so but again we have the Echoes of that deeply slanted America that are broadcast into the present at a high level of intensity but you cannot do reparations inside of every Institute every hour every discussion that is not a plausible plan even people who support the idea of monetary reparations the solution if they understood the Dynamics of trying to infuse it into every interaction there is no way it could possibly work and it invalidates all of the most important principles on which America runs so we are really talking about on inventing America and substituting a reparations program for it which it just couldn't possibly be a bigger think think for a second trying to imagine what the hell I'm talking about imagine the courts right now there is a problem there's a process called jury nullification and Eric has pointed out that jury nullification is a huge hazard in an era where people are saying as much nonsense about who's guilty and who's innocent and what it has to do with race as we have because effectively you can instantly create a situation in which the law doesn't apply certain folks because of the color of their skin right that would be an advantage You could argue that it was compensatory four years of being on the other end of that deal but it cannot be made to function but the other thing is also possible right you can not only have the law not apply to people on the basis that they have a skin color that's suggestive had a raw deal but you can also make the law apply to people because of their skin color we can have show trials right I was effectively expose the equivalent of a show trial Evergreen and I was convicted of racism and it happened at for various reasons I knew damn well that the charge was completely empty based on my history as a human being and so I felt I could stand up to it and we stand it and I guess in a way I did on the other hand my wife and I were driven out of the college so yes I survived it but I didn't survive it intact right I made it somewhere else but that show trial men that show trial mentality mean it would be a perfect fit for the maoist part of this of this movements ethos mean we're already seeing struggle sessions people being forced to admit things that aren't true right

everybody has their own Awakening you know it and if some people may not have that in this life you know they may never they may never have that that Awakening but some people are burdened by their environment as well right there's too much stress and anxiety and you can't even say space somebody who was who was doing all the meditation because all you really need to do is feel it to understand why you need to do it and that's why I was unlucky that I was able to feel it so now it's nothing for me to meditate and then go to all these you know spiritual practice because I know that is something real but beforehand I was like man that s*** is not real. I don't believe that man like guys but until I went through it I'm just like you didn't have that understanding it's hard to see the result you kind of have to trust the process it's hard to see the result before you experience that you kind of have to trust the process go through it then something for me for me a big one is Yoga I'm a big believer in yoga and not just for physical reasons for mental reasons it helps me tremendously and when I don't do it I'm good I'm good like legitimately iced yoga twice a week cuz I'm really only good for about 3 days after yoga class like I need to just really bounced out if I was doing it three times a week is nothing in the world like a f*** with me mentally I feel like I'm fine everything everything I've done I've done that the Bikram Yoga and that she was just so hot I couldn't I really couldn't focus that's the key though I know about that yeah well Mike my place not affiliated with Bikram anymore because he's arrested for some scumbaggery he's easy give your scumbag and Heat this a thing about this he did not invent those postures and he didn't even invent that sequence he brought to America and he popularized doing it and in very hot rooms the benefits don't forget him take him out of the equation because there's so many people that practice it and they've had incredible benefits from it it's it's really unfortunate that it's connected to this very controversial individual because then people associate Bikram with this guy that's been you know accused of multiple sexual assault and rape snow is different things they take that away from him as a human being and the people that practice it what they get from it personal you know exactly what you're going to do everyday there's 26 postures and two breathing exercises one breathing exercise in the beginning 26 postures one breathing exercise the end it's in 90 minutes 90 minutes and 105 degrees and it's f****** brutal and I did it right before I got here I do it like you in the morning first thing in the morning I do it before I eat anyting I go through a 90-minute yoga class or really like doing it that way and then at the end of the day have a couple different places that do it ad like to mix it up but that hot yoga from me is the way to go because first of all I know the postures they all they're all serve a purpose and terms of like helping my body helping my balance keeping my flexibility strengthening my joints there's so many really positive physical and then to the meditation aspect of it because no matter what kind of b******* I have going on in my life if I just breathe and think about the exercise and then me and my brain starts racing and I'll forget what I'm doing also thinking about other s*** but I bring it back bring it back bring it back breathe just breathe not going anywhere so I am just breathe and going through these and I know that I can get through it and get through it and there's a cleansing of like all the your brain does like residual residue of like shity thoughts bouncing around inside your brain anxieties and fears and regrets and anger and frustration and all this s*** that's in your head that just gets in the way of clear thinking it gets in the way of being able to see things in an objective beneficial way and to be able to see things the way other people seem as well but sometimes I have an issue adding a lot of people do that I don't see how other people are seeing things I see how I I see things and then I can let me look at it from their way let me just abandoned on all of the weather f****** wrong abandon all that s*** and try to look at it from other peoples toys that feel like what yoga does for me is that allows me to be free and allows me to clean up all my preconceived notions and clean out all my misconceptions and just see things she thinks or how they are and always feel better I got to try on this vegan diet I'm telling you you're on that path anyway yoga is it's just so good for straighten your f****** head out man always want to try to yoga something like it when I do like the DMC I don't have like I don't have a it's weird I don't have like those divisions come from NN diamond like one time I did it I've seen like this half like it was like I was awake and I'm going to place and I'm just with these three massive beings like tall is a building and they were like half human and they're half snake and I got a snake from the waist down and the ad in the human from the waist up but have like a snake face that was one of the divisions that I had you think that represented it was weird because during that experience is like they were all like I was all three of them were staring at me not and they were looking down and then one of them Reach for me and then I started going up and then I started going around their body and then I went around the body and then as I was going around the body every once in a while I will see the face of of of it and it was like open up like a cobra and then it will close but it wasn't scary it wasn't terrifying and I went all the way over body it was like I was able to see from another angle like me up in the body and and then it like open me up like a like a like a flower or something like that it was weird and then my trip went like super super fast so you definitely invite Visions yeah I just can't can't quite make out like what it what's it supposed to be supposed to be giving me the finger the last a bunch of jesters like Court Jesters ridiculous they're all like machine f*** f*** you circling me like infinite numbers of the basically the feeling that I got was a I take myself too seriously and these these gestures were just going to f*** you like you don't like that you don't like when someone goes f*** you gesture surrounding me going to give me like this vibrating finger it was and I was like but we was clear what they were saying like hey bed she take yourself too seriously and then you're right you're right times you think very highly of yourself like that's what you like I should you know my Netflix specials going to be the s*** I'm going to this is going to be the best one I've ever done I'm going to f****** show everybody how good this isn't and they work fuk fuk fuk fuk fuk you and I was like I mean something we don't have to think that way to do the you know yeah I said so that's a thing like I like those visions of being able to like when I did Ayahuasca I didn't have any Visions man I don't have anything like I had I had it I got into it pretty pretty good space but I wasn't like I didn't have like the typical teaching lessons everybody else has when they do something that seems like you're probably the thing is with that and I'm speaking just from people talking to me about it cuz I've only done the pure DMT I haven't done the Iowa people say that a lot of these people that are making it than not make you to the not making it correctly or they're making a light dose cuz they're worried about Gringos going crazy and they don't want to be responsible for that s*** so I know people that have gone and they've had these experiences where they've done it with someone in America or someone who's done throw more commercial sort of organization and it wasn't that strong or profound and then they when did it with someone who's real someone is making some f****** super high grade you know 97 octane s*** and then that's what I like it was it brought like I didn't even give me experience that I wanted but it gave me the experience that I needed you know and that's and that's something that I got after I was like over the disappointment of it was like you know what I didn't get what I wanted but I definitely got what I needed you know because whenever you sit in circle and stuff like that it's always an amazing cathartic thing where you just kind of just like shed and just go through those emotions just watching other people just be so wrong with their emotions and just kind of you kind of just like shed and just go through those emotions just watching other people just be so wrong with their emotions and just kind of feeling that you know just just through somebody else's you kind of like start to feel like the work come through you you know that's that's how I felt anyway

Bensalem boxer oh yeah I was training at their core gym when I was in town cuz I work with that his coach sometimes and and I'm like what they were saying besides back was tight one day or something like that cuz I got a good chiropractor Hilo you see you know what you mean they make you worse off there for you and and and and I just been seeing chiropractors for that do you know how chiropractors were invented you ready for this chiropractors were invented in the 1800 by a magnetic healer during a seance he apparently came up with this idea that you could fix all the ailments of the body by manipulating the spine he was murdered by his son his son I'm over with a car sound with a con man and his son took over the business and his son started promoting that chiropractic healing could fix all these problems literally the whole art of Chiropractic manipulation in and I'm not denying that some people do get pain relief from chiropractors and most chiropractors today really acts Morris physical therapist that do a lot of deep tissue work a lot of other things but the origin of chiropractic medicine came from a f****** b******* artist Meetup b******* but it happened in the 1800 so it just got grandfathered in where people took it seriously but there's a crazy article by a woman who was a guest on my podcast in the past how do you say her name Yvette to chiropractors are b******* how do you say her her last name is it complicated last name but I didn't know I had no idea cuz I had gone to a chiropractor once I had up a bulging disc in my neck and Jiu-Jitsu and I was like this just is not getting any better and he's like who's going to manipulate you everything would be fine I went to a year and it never got any better and it finally went to a real doctor is like a f****** bulging disc man this is my hands are going numb why is my hand going numb and is pushing out how do you say her name Yvette D entremont she was on the butt Arctic medicine got started out and they call themselves doctors write a doctorate in Chiropractic what percentage of people get accepted to chiropractic school take us 10% a hundred percent I understand everybody I know I will attest to that I work with your mom some some good ones some good guys. They they told me they get me right I don't like I work with this guy dr. Maggie and also dr. Davidson and they they do a good job and really, cuz I'll go on in my neck be tight and it popped up here and there and I got you just feel a little bit of relief I feel a little bit that's what I said think for me to is like I'm very aware of the whole placebo effect of of certain things like I was a skeptic I'm a skeptic sometime and so going in and then actually feeling relief there's a doctor Maggie that we worked with a lot of a lot of football players as well and he's like you said you know those guys the other here just you and get you right but he does a lot of physical therapy work as well that's what more they are now kind of helps you know some of those elements that I have and he's helping you for a few Camp as well as dr. Davis in these guys have helped me a lot and my fight so you know that's what I was like when arrows like not just crack crack and pop me back they are actually you know physically help work some things out. We're good to go as soon as they were doctors I did too I thought you had to go to medical school to be called the doctor you don't

with Kobe as well I mean you know that fight was a lot more personal than a lot of people think you know obviously with you know that the whole situation with my my dad and then I'm saying whatever you said and and I know he like people say certain things in Connors a master at this to try to get you off your game to try to make you the rattle you make you mad enough to where you come out and you just crazy and all the fighting them into where you can be the best nasty when you get in there and get an adrenaline dump you look like you haven't trained a day in your life and I knew that's what they would like I'm not stupid I knew what that's what these guys are trying to do anyway especially him he was trying to do but I was going to play into that had a very steady Pace it was very interesting you could see that when you're fighting like right away in the first round first of all his pace is f****** crazy it mean that guy throws a lot of volume but you you had you could tell that you were not going to blow your water Lee you were fighting vert measured very disciplined and you were throwing a lot of front kicks to the body man that front kick the body is nasty yeah I mean you know just looking at his style stylistically in and match him up with my like I could have came in there we would have wrestled each other but pywrestling because everyone Tyron was a two-time All-American tired tiring did better than him in division 1 wrestling better accolades and we saw what happened with that fight so I knew he was worried about me wrestling me taking him down cuz if I take you down you're not getting up unless I let you up so I knew he was worried about that but then they they came a moment in the fight to where we used to just looked at each other and it was just now not today lately do it let's do it again and I was fully aware I was fully prepared that to bang it out with him it was very surprising because it really did turn out to be basically kickboxing fight yeah man that was yeah we just we just looked at each other and we'll just like alright let's go bowling tonight depending on how the rest of the division stocks up because it's just such a f****** talented division there's so much not division this so many good Fighters but depending on how everything plays out you guys could have two or three fights and easily we'll see we'll see first of all I want to see how you bounce back from that because like I said there was a lot that went into that fight he said a lot he did a lot like getting all that weight on having all that weight on your shoulders saying all the things that you said ruffling all the feathers that you ruffled and then coming out and in he took a beating from the fans after that like the backlash that he took it was was I don't know if you could saw some of the ship that was on my like he took up shoe monkas so I'm sure and so many of them can do it I knew it I want to see how he bounces back from all that because he's never had to do it do it before psychological yeah he's never had to do it before you never had to talk all that s*** and go in there and get your mouth shut literally and it's literally it's going to be interesting to see like who they match him up with you know I mean who who they got possibilities what he's doing a massive. Early on I like these videos online with with with a dove and then it's like he can fight Tyron Woodley fight like I think they both fight for the number one Contender it's like the possibilities are endless because it's so many guys that want to kick his ass but I don't think so you got you got possibilities he can he can fight guys and it's also possible that he can learn from that fight with you and come back a better fighter that is pop yet so we don't know how much it's going to take out of them but it is possible that he can come from that me that was a f****** crazy fighting that was the first really crazy fight that he's experienced other than one submission lost that he had the UFC where you had got an injured rib he had to take the fight was that Worley Alves or they are so when you when you see him next then we'll get a we get an understanding was that the thing though it is there's just so certain guys you can't be I don't know what it is or why didn't they just certain guys that you cannot be and I think I'm that guy that he's just not going to be I will not allow myself to lose to him do you think of you have two good hands of your hand wasn't her it would been a different part you love to hurt him I think I heard him earlier but I don't think anything's followed very good fiber me how to be the most of it be the most I've ever been hit ever and it was I was never really hurt bad but they were stinging shots like they they stung me a couple time like this would be the most satisfying to you it was when I when I got back to the hotel and I and I sat there just I mean it was like and I just bought by myself cuz I like to decompress and I'm just saying we got it done I mean all this s*** that this guy said even my dad was that you know like you said but take care of business you know to know that I went in there and I and I did take care of business it was extremely satisfying and it didn't hurt when I freak I mean it's sharp lessive like celebrities crazy celebrities and you know there's a lot of people little support you because of that yet man is so many like if you fall down there's so many they just can't wait to piss on you and kick you it's such a polarizing position that he took he did but you know President Trump now saying that you were going to go visit the White House and you tell me about the boys go to the White House reading a book and it pretended like he was reading the book and then I'm at the airport and I'm like oh there's a bug and I'm like I've got time today and I and I and I take the screenshot and I and I posted it seated speed the reaction for bad after that it was it was refused ridiculous messages back all the trucks personally so you know I can't go out there and I go I'm bashing them just because this idiot was attaching himself yeah them so I look forward to meeting them and actually talking to them that would be a great moment for you to bring that title to the White House to spite of all the b******* and just let everybody know do you rise yeah I mean it would ever imagine that you know coming from the village in Africa that I did you know and then get bring that title to the White House to spite him all the b******* and just let everybody know you rise yeah I mean it would ever imagine and I ain't coming from the village in Africa that I did you know and and getting to the point and actually going in there to the White House

social media I just got did you see that I just got half did you really get high or just know I got hacked your manager we were we were preparing to go to the fight weave. Liked it they will come in and get us cuz if I started started the prelim just started and it was about to start the main card so we're preparing to go is Saturday and you don't know my phone just getting text message text message text message I'm inside maybe switch one person you want to get there on my dad cuz my phone is blows up sometimes so I'm not really looking at my phone I'm just trying to get out of there and go and I somehow I I just I picked my phone up where we get walking down to the car I slide it up and I have 26 messages what just happened so then the top one was what's the name Paige you know used to work for the UFC is like looking at your Twitter right now like what are you talkin about yeah that's what I thought I thought you were right now phone I try to go into my Twitter I can't I'm locked out to someone that got in and change the password and the email so I can't even get into my Twitter and and then with Ali cuz he's with me and we're walking now I might go I leave I need to see your phone now I need to see your phone because I can't even see what they were tweeting until I get his phone and I go to my page and the first couple of the defensive like the first one was like it was wrong on so many levels funny if you are troll you know but he's tweeting Connor it was like I'm going to be raw doggin to do something with your wife tonight I was I know that that's a little you know that's a little much you know and then that the next one another one comes in another one comes in at another time like now he's going all the way left and now he's a Taiwan play me said something by Mike Tyson your and word like you effing and words you're this is like you email your effing n-word or this and that like like going in like that and then crushed screen screenshots my bank account somehow he gets got into my bank account got into my bank account screenshot this and put it out now I'm getting my messages like yo what it's like and then of course that was right there they got my bank account and now they know we're getting calls from a message from everybody. Gill we would have just not the u.s. is working on getting the Twitter shut down and by the time they called and got the Twitter shut down here Twitter my bank is in a screenshot of my bank account. You know they tweeted random people are disrespectful things he was like on 112 you know if I get over a hundred thousand followers or a thousand, two retweets on this I'm going to put it peanut play Pink or like internet password the password for that out there cuz I have my phone like how did they get in to my I have everything now Instagram they shut down my Instagram right away before he could post anything you know because that I have a lot more followers on there and it was just like I was so like just flustered by it all to wear I couldn't do anything but Somaya like Ivory I just does anybody ever posed for you that used to be using yeah but I still like to have some level of control but mean the other people besides you I get password yeah yeah yeah but it's it's it's someone that I know someone that I trust you know it's not like random people know it's one person one person that's what is it possible to that one person left their phone laying around or something and someone saw the password now candy cuz it wasn't just my Twitter they can my bank account with crazy I mean I don't know how they connected how's the bank account into an iPhone when I'm learning now as they can easily hackers can easily hack you from and I like you are Starbucks Wi-Fi they can eat that's why you want a virtual private Network VPN and we use expressvpn but there's a bunch of them you would use that and dig the good thing about it is also you get get in the account so you could do stuff like you know you're another country's they lock you out of things yeah like you can't look a certain parts of the web you can if you have a VPN yeah I could miss it this was wet and then obviously something they were using because they sign when they sign into my they try to get into my email they got into my money sign in cuz now you have that two-factor authenticator or whatever and then when they sign it it showed one of them show that they were in New York another one showed that they were in like Bali so they switching up yeah yeah whatever knew what they were they knew what they were doing because they were it would getting in there saying something and it was like and of course and I saw that and it was unfair to to it to my manager for people that actually say that because you know of course everyone said something about it to which which was very low I understand that the comments that that was tweeted out with work very very disrespectful first of all that's not me I don't even talk like of course you know and I would never say anything like that even though cuz I want to beat him up if you kind of want to fight we can fight but I would never has lines that you don't cross that's not you at all I would never I thought he was just trying to stir up the pot now 9:30 extent I didn't know the extent of what that's the only way it's worth it that's true it was just some random crazy due to Russian and I'm thinking like booty time and and this is before I release all the tweets he's like you had a talk with Connor I'm thinking like a s*** about Connor I got hacked we talkin about until I saw the comment and what was said towards him I was like oh s*** okay I understand this guy's going into on the biggest fights I mean he's this is a return fight and it was everything is going through and having that hanging around or someone saying for like it's just not that thirsty I'm a champion the belts going to move I'm going to fight going into on the biggest fights I mean he's this is a return fight and it was everything is going through and having that hanging around or someone saying for like it's just first of all we're not that thirsty I'm a champion the belts going to move I'm going to fight somebody now you know so I don't really care who it is I'm going to fight somebody

you know this Ben, click Ricky Gervais is a great example of done very well and I love when he was hosting the Golden Glow up you know what I'm saying my friend do you know what that is these m************ haven't gotten any attention exact for months because they happen f****** horrible cop is a really bad guy who killed somebody it's not like these actors are out there being racist and holding people back while you're doing this stupid do you do you take attention or sucking it up like a sponge that do stuff for the money this looks of the rest of the world they think they're going to do a good thing and they think they're through their celebrity may use their platform and their voice not going to make it different now you really think that as it a professional actor you going to make a f****** difference with racism and crime and violence and police brutality you should stop acting cuz you should go to a f****** doctor and get your head checked but the video was little bit of sanctimonious and very you know I got it from that means I'll be honest with you he he he he does Caitlyn Jenner like f****** it's one of his Instagram page is the funniest f****** Instagram page on the planet Earth by far but he's got this new one that he did where he go to a Jamie go to Kyle Dunnigan Instagram page where he has these characters that he does with the face swap and he shoves them into that video wait wait till you see this cuz this is the perfect antidote for that cringe here we go Jamie woke you this up here the guy is a goddamn genius responsibility for not listening to Megan and deleting me knickers on the floor that called Underpants I will no longer throw away the African-American part of the Oreo cookie just to get you the creamy white mid I will hire more black hookers I guess we are no longer bystanders that's nothing compared to some of his page if you need something to laugh at his Caitlyn Jenner unfortunately I think they're great I just think somebody should talk to them if somebody outside the business just grabbed me by the shoulders unfortunately I think they're great I just think somebody should talk to them if somebody outside the business just grabbed me by the shoulders and call feedback

because I don't cook much no no no and I don't need anything you don't listen I eat nothing short sometimes that could do something I can make breakfast like what what's your goes to Umberto's Clam House is where they killed Joe Gallo in Brooklyn where I grew up and was killed Monday I mean like f****** hundreds any to come and get the f*** out of here take them to the movies piano squeeze the lemon thing I did being around all those guys when you're younger than that help you when you're in The Sopranos that it helped you like sort of cuz you knew people like that I grew up in that neighborhood like where I grew up in Bensonhurst Brooklyn at the time in the 70s was all big mob and clav big they were everywhere and you didn't even know they were you know like and this is a guy that I went to little league with wind up doing 25 years for murder and they were just in the neighborhood they would just you know so yeah I knew that world I wasn't in that world I went to college but I knew that world I know people that friends are you know it was just that kind of a place and two days ago Italian deli ravioli store and I didn't know that he was a hitman and he sent me an article and he murdered two guys and Coney Island yeah and I had no idea about that and I should really lift up the block for me I didn't know that all the Titan American you know and it's changed a little bit in New York because that whole area look at when he would have those block parties and you know people that was part of the the people that would love to him 79-80 so I was gone through all that made these you know I was in Vegas I think it is is legit MMA fighter he's really f****** good he's shredded the kid looks a f****** killer me looks like an MMA fighter covered in tattoos I think he's undefeated and I think he's got the majority of his fights if not all of them by knockout go to a lot of people he was pretty nifty as a fighter and they still get caught even the even the guys move like s*** they still get caught I don't know what they did to avoid prosecution those Old-Timers you know those Old-Timers used to just I don't know what they did with the money while they were trying to avoid prosecution didn't work out

do you cook oh yeah what you went Top Chef chopped celebrity tournament, but I'm good at taking what's there and making something out of it like random stuff really really yeah whatever is that mean and I did it because my wife doesn't cook she's you know she's a designer she's good at building things so if I wanted to eat good I had to learn how to cook cuz she's that's how you learn. are you going to do this you'll win if you do the show cuz you're good at like cooking with random ingredients and it was sixteen people like one day it was actors for actors for comedians for athletes and for like musicians than the winner from each day does the last day and how they judge and a used ice cream made a dessert you have to make this three rounds every day right so is it appetizer rounded main course and then a desert but for the desert that made ice cream and I put like booze in the ice cream and that got over really good like bourbon peoples of all kinds of other vegetables and will it be in the Box fake blood like candy blood or like an unpopped dry corn on the cob unpopped you know like the cats like popcorn but not off the cob squid it was like that's kind of more of a normal thing the thing I didn't think about that's the hardest thing of it is that there's cameras in your face the whole time which is really good then if they follow you around do with it take me to family win 50000 for charity that's the thing but I want up winning the the last two people are me and Brandi Chastain you know she was on the US Women's Soccer Team not the recent one but back then she took off her shirt was wearing a sports bra that was a famous photo or something that was her and I were the two finalist no you don't do that when you coming are you going to do that for first place corn with f****** and you have to make and then there's there's all different machines to there's like a food processor this an ice cream machine there's like a sous-vide machine which is you put stuff in the in the in the plastic seal and then put it into like really hot water to cook it. Kind of s*** if you want to get adventurous a machine is like a sous-vide machine which is you put stuff in the in the in the plastic seal and then put it into like really hot water to cook it that kind of s*** if you want to get adventurous

great thing to do to go back and review it just to kind of give the people that are fans at this the sense of it was like for you guys and what it's like to see it again and it just to put it in the context in history when that's the show that started off these kind of shows when you think about the show that you have today like the Ozarks and all these different like really what kind of wild shows we have to follow one episode to the next and you have to know what just happened to pay attention The Sopranos started that s*** that was in was also the first show where there was a real antihero a cinematic quality to television traditionally go to the movies for he wasn't your typical leading man like we sexy just like they love them just go back through his whole history of his career but that show doing Tony Soprano just f****** synced whatever it was got to get f****** killed you know you're watching it and in in one scene right there's some incredible scenes where he's happy mad Furious in in 1 3 minutes in he goes to four different emotions he's amazing you know like anything you start to see what you have like one of these actors bringing you know what are there playing to their strengths and what kind of qualities they're bringing to it yeah just like there's that one scene in the pilot at the end towards the other Pine like my character tells Tony Soprano I can go to Hollywood and sell my story or something and he in the script it was kind of he was like fatherly like you don't want to do that and sell out you got to stay with us and build a family or whatever and instead Jim just grabs me they don't by the throat or something like that it became very menacing and very intimidating and he released you know and I think David saw that was like oh wow that's the guy that's the character then and it probably influenced how he took the story and how would he would write it but I think a lot I think a lot of that tone was already in his head but seeing what the actors were bringing to it I think you know influenced a lot hippie you know he was very laid-back you know he were like Birkenstocks and like a bandana on his head and it's hard to wipe my ass with your family matter fact he would say to me like before the season let's go down have dinner at Hill Court Tia what should I bring it to you that way an actor theater God I wrote a kids book called Nikki douching it turned it into a movie and Michaels in it and Paulie Walnuts and Johnny sack and I was in Jim's trailer and he had dusted the movie with Brad Pitt a mob movie and he said Jim said I won't beat the f*** f****** calls me again I will beat the f*** out of him for the money he paid me I'm not f****** doing it swear to God I won't beat the f*** I will beat the f*** out of him for the money he paid me I'm not f****** doing it sweater

that was an interesting take because that guy was he was a young guy and he had never been the star of the movie before and they're making this movie and because they did you know they put money into this the executives were giving him a line readings there was a guy who is wearing cufflinks offensive watch and it's really nice tailored suit and he was saying he was telling him run and this was after that that's who it was it was just painted I was I was in the car we're in the camera car and I was driving on the New Jersey Turnpike Kenna they will just tell me what you want because then you get your now you're not discovering it you're not you're not creating the moment you're just imitating it it's not organic and it's not might not be as interesting as what you're going to come up with us tonight I've gone off on DirecTV I find one hour drama like that show much more different beat I don't think I'm very good at it and I've done quite a bit of him giving me a note and tell me what you want I want to make the director happy I want to do a good job tell me it doesn't bother me that much you know I have had directors I did a movie with a young kid it was a really good roll a younger kid after every take he came over to talk to me finally I went like just let me do my thing I'll figure it out this whole process you freaked out though yeah because you're playing the scene reality the scene whatever it is this guy saying something and it pisses you off so douchebag say something a certain way you know what I mean face I don't know what that means be happy do you want me to be ecstatic over-the-top really excited make a funny face and then I don't know what that means we're also working with the director you there is the script that you're supposed to be following and maybe this some changes to the script and there's so much going on till try to create your version of it that the more the people are f****** with you the more that's going to just throw you off the rail it does and I've what I found is the best people the best director that's actors and writers make it so you feel very comfortable and that you are free to create and that you're not being Dominator dictated to and stuff like that like the best example is Martin Scorsese where I only worked with lunch in a movie I felt like I could do no wrong he creates an environment will you feel completely creative and free and get better than him look at it from the perspective and just took it to figure out how to be the least annoying the most Board of and then just sort of convey what you trying to get down to see hundred percent I mean both ways you know as an active to you got to learn you know you learn how to deal with different types of directors and give the give them what they want and give and satisfy yourself at the same time when you're not learning it's harder to do that you know I got fired from my very first professional job I was 21 I've been studying for a long time I've been auditioning never got anything I got to play the lead in a play Off-Broadway but a lot of attention cuz it was based on a true story and I got fired after the opening weekend because I didn't respect the director I thought I didn't think he knew what he was doing and I didn't know how to give him what he needed and still do my own thing I wasn't skilled enough yet so they fired me I was devastated that's why he kissed you so a lot of a lot of a lot of directors even big ones they don't even give you any Direction They Hide that's okay you did you so a lot of a lot of a lot of directors even big ones they don't even give you any Direction that's okay you did you do your thing and I'll take it away and he believes

see the academy award speech thank you compilation for all the people go up all the various people that eventually talk s*** about him go up and praise Harvey Weinstein every three or four times like I wanted to know Madison Square Garden and there's a restaurant Rebecca Grille which he had on the piece of at one point and give you a half-ass hello maybe he was way above I was beneath him he can f****** all the breathing smoke and chain smoke and he was a tough guy stuff with assistance you know if you thought about a character in a film Harvey Weinstein is almost to on the head almost unbelievable this is just what he's been convicted for I mean he apparently was behaving like that for decades if you get this amount this amount of cycling / sexual harassment case they had it that he wouldn't have to pay this much it was to he have to be that much it was three imagine if you're signing up for a place like Steve I know your piece of s*** so this won't go to work in the contract Behavior we're going to write it down and you going to be penalized per piece of shitt big people that knew this stuff that's all the stuff that set him off that he was meeting the girl in the lobby then she comes down and says Mojave needs to meet you up in this room she was part of it or he or whatever then it was like I mean I would never do that big that played Dumb and there's also but you also you don't have to and when you think of an assistant in particular you're thinking about someone who has virtually no power and there's a thing called diffusion of responsibility for this too many people involved you don't feel like you're responsible you don't feel like you know that's it's easier to assault someone in front of a hundred people than it is. It's also in front of one person does one person might step in and stop it but a hundred people will sit around and go someone's got to stop this. You you know when that's when your assistant you're probably what would you work in check the check you got this guy was the king of Hollywood he's a f****** he's worth hundreds of millions of dollars intimidating yes always going to come back like in a horror film it's a hard thing to talk about I don't want it they don't want everybody to know amazing falling apart can't even walk I mean is what a fall from grace there's not a whisper that's right so 7 years later the guys in jail can't walk you know his body's falling apart that's the way just got to get somebody to give him the cyanide pills planning a comeback and you know he was at the meeting that was there early on and he fired him and I ran into him right before he got sent a few weeks before and I said he's going to get off and he said no you're not forgot why 24 years it seems like things happened in the court of public opinion on guys like that most certainly did. I would have just there's no way I would want to be what kind of life is that he's such a character as disgusting face and his body and everything about it would you like he was okay with me you know he had opinions he was all right I mean it was just work there was nothing I mean obviously set a beautiful wife does that even happen and it's one of those things that if it's if it's in a film it just it's almost like he's too much of a villain ain't that some of the the women that have denied having sex with him had section yes yes I want that if I would have probably play I'll put you in the next movie they wouldn't lined up that would be people lined up around the corner I think that is probably part of what he did no no I think I don't know if that's true from what I understand Rialto's lusting over you know you put some actress in a film and you know she's the center of everyone's attention she's got a you know a small dress on she walks into room and that you don't need the whole place lights up and she's sucking Harvey's dick grabbing her and he's like just come back to my place come out just like you get your hearing it like a guy asking for heroin his wife and they were just gone right I mean unless you just said make them stars but they want something and then you set up this Dynamic that's existed since you know the f****** times view it's brilliant he was a comedy star a huge star and he did something with a woman we stuck like a bottle of her father done toast done the girl died directors in. Just a horrible year minute and Jesus that he was getting away with it for the longest time for the people around them and then he got away with it what's also interesting is like if you help someone murder somebody you would get an accessory you would get you would get prison time you would do would be charges but there's no charges against any of the people that I absolutely knew what he was doing doesn't apply to that I know I got you. I don't think my daughter no matter how much they wanted to be in the business would being accomplished that and tell the girl and Shake will Harvey's going to be up in the room or whatever add a type of gangrene that you get from diabetes affect cereal on his and his dick was horribly malformed so I had this we were talking about this and then I Googled it and then I said to my friends do not Google this and then they like why not so I sent him a photo of it I don't know what it looks like all my God it's like you're your genitals just rot away like all the skin around it rotted away and that was one of the things that the actress is it said is that she thought that he was maybe intersex or transgender vagina cuz he was so scarred up so it's like it's like a movie character he's almost too disgusting which movie concussion Christian Bale

what was it like when the dude through the steel balls at the window and there were supposed to not break and it broke well yeah I mean place where I can pick it up and it did and this thing's ranking of that before that the demo in the studio throwing steel balls at the window is Bounce right off you're so sure like this is Mike exoskeleton you can take the wind up with a sledgehammer in a full-on double-handed sledgehammer and hit the door and there's not even a dent school but we think that that crack the corner of the glass at the bottom and then once you crack the corner the glass the game over so then when he threw the ball that that's what practical sledgehammer then when he threw the ball that that's what practically the first sledgehammer

well I think we're rapidly moving towards opening up the country it's going to happen extremely fast over the next few weeks so yeah from an informational level is when reporting cases to separate out diagnosed with covid-19 because I'm a list of symptoms that could be covered at this point is like a mile on it so it's like the heart to tell it all it's like so definitely diagnosis covered or those two so that one looks bigger than it is then if somebody dies is a primary cause of the death or not I mean I mean somebody has covered get eaten by shark with my underarm the arm has covered the road to hell is paved with good intentions I was mostly paid with bad intentions but there is Reno some good intentions Paving so it's in there too and to help with the hospital's I will be over on with with with code patients created of to record something that is difficult to say no to especially if your husband loves going for lack of other patients to the hospital right now they're following doctors as you were mentioning that the other gospels half-full your heart hard to make ends meet I just checked that situation we have what what's the way out of this what do you think is like if if you had the president's here or if people want to just listen to you openly what do you think is the way out of this is listless throughout the day to clear up the data so like that requires covered only if it is somebody's been tested one of my kind of symptoms and then if if it has a cover. That must be separated us with Covenant primary primary reason for death or did they also have stage 3 cancer or heart disease emphysema and got hit by bus and act of it despite other variable recurring and where you reading this from where you getting this from the public health officials have literally said this is not this is not a? This is unprecedented right like if someone had the flu but also had a heart attack they would assume that that person died of a heart attack Penn Financial incentives yes there are in a tough spot here they actually don't have enough patience to 2 to pay everyone for 2 with without Broiler ain't feeling doctors and firing staff and yeah the similar spell says if you know we get all this money if we say if they if it's a covered death like okay they coughed before they died is diarrhea headaches dehydration yet you don't even need to have gotten a cobra diagnosis you simply need to have had one of many symptoms and then have died for some reason now we should keep whatever you know there and empty people in the homes so we need to break out of this loop from people that are the Panic there's a lot of essentially well at least a month ago were clearly in a panic I mean right where did you know when you were look around April 5th April 6th people really freaking out but here we are May and may people are relaxing a little bit yes they're realizing okay I actually know a couple people that got it it was just a cough and I know some people that got it for nothing happened I do a lot of people got it 0 people who died. I mean if I know a lot of people that got it it's not what we feared we feared something much worse so that's cracked so with the adjustments difficult to make so you said first of all we need real data you need to just pass out the data don't throw it all together an actual covid-19 osis or was it a test test came back positive or do they just have some symptoms that those two out and then I parked out just if somebody died that they died did they put that they even have a common test for or did they just have one of many sometimes like he died without weakness what's the weather Quantified what was it be at the back of a test and end the test come back positive and then if they if they died did they die Workwear where covered was it didn't have to be Bebe Main Court but it was a significant contributor to their death or was it not a significant contributor to the death. time to have like flu and another cold it's so popular and I use that were in a weird way but it's so popular that we've kind of Forgotten people died in ammonia everyday I'm going to be on the bench I'm going to wait until covid-19 before I jump back into the game killing people know the flu still here killing people jump back into the game of killing people know the flu still here killing people every year in the world several hundred thousand people died directly off the flu.

let's talk about what you can talk about to what neuralink is cuz the last time you were here really couldn't discuss it and then there was a I guess a press release some of that sort of thing so what exactly is it how do you do what what happens if someone ultimately does get a neuralink installed what will take place one of the device it would be it basically it implanted in your skull so it would be device in there you put the the Electoral region so the electro threads very carefully into the the brain and and then you switch it up and you I know that somebody has and then at the end so that you can interface basically anywhere anywhere your brain so it could be something that you know helps cure say eyesight like a give you that even if you fly cluster optic of everything acad done restore functionality so if you've got an interface into the motor cortex and an implant that say that's like a microcontroller near muscle groups you could that create a certified neural shunt that restores somebody who is a quadriplegic to full functionality like they can walk around maybe slightly better slightly better overtime with future iterations and your skull Protect by the way the service calls or 14 mm believe you so the advice would be like Adrian it takes the surface of the ice hole in there so this is like that your ice fishing on the top of your skull and then you cork it yeah I replaced that say 1 inch diameter piece of skull with the device and that has a battery in a Bluetooth and inductive charger and then you know that then you can go to at the electrodes electrospray Cafe inserted wood without a robot that we developed that's putting in the electrodes and avoiding you know and any veins or arteries so it's great, so through this device electrodes be inserted and they will find their way back tires Facebook okay dispatch up the the whole and and they just kept it look like a little Scar and that's it would be replaceable a reversible withdrawal amazing is there any cognitive benefits do you anticipate from something like this it's a generalized sort of thing for fixing any kind of brain injury in front of like Apple apps or something like that in real time and then counterpulse and stop epilepsy gets a stroke they can lose the ability to speak in that battle stack also be fixed. Should be like stroke damage or if you lose muscle control over part of your face or something like that selling it to do that like the wires these the small wires that stimulating is Arizona brain and then is it that the areas of the brain are losing some sort of electrical force like what it what is happening to you Civic her in that is the process of figuring out how much or how little has to be how how much these areas of the brain have to be Juiced up a lot of work to do so when I say we got a shot at probably putting it in person and be healthy and and restoring some functionality that there if they've lost the fear is that eventually you have to cut the whole top of someone's head off and put a new top so it was a whole bunch of wires if you want to get you know the real turbocharged version the p100d brain stimulation if you if you want to go with full AI somebody else's you'll probably how do something like that is a scary word we come to AI it's optional I mean once you enjoy the doctor Manhattan lifestyle once you went to become a god seems very very unlikely you don't want to go back to being stupid again when you literally can fundamentally change the way each other yes yes you don't need to talk I'm so scared of that but so excited about at the same time is that weird yeah I mean I think this is one of the paths to yeah we're not going along for the ride we're just too dumb so so I kept missing limb syndrome that's like really so partly partner part of the cyborg or an anti-semite essentially it's just that the data rate to the electronics of slow so especially with your thumbs optimistically 100 bits per second that's being generous another computer they has like toiletry how good is boring. Dre spray painting so the data rate issue especially output input to then you can improve the symbiosis that is already occurring between man and machine you won't have to talk to each other anymore we should joke around about that I have joked around about that a million times in this podcast that one day in the future is going to come a time when you can read each other's minds and well you'll be able to interface with each other in some sort of a nonverbal non-physical way where you will transfer data back and forth to each other without having actually use your mouth take me to somebody else and how do you do that well spent a lot of compressing complex concept into words and there's a lot of loss information last that occurs when compressing a complex concept into words then you say those words those words then interpret then they're decompressed by the person who is listening and they they will look best get a complete understanding of what you can say it's very difficult to convey complex concept with Precision because you got compression decompression give me a not even if correctly and so words in different ways and their depend upon tone depend upon social cues even facial expressions sarcasm is a lot of variables such as if that's created through computers that a particular young kids would pick up very quickly like my kids do Tik Tok and all this Jazz and I don't know what to do they just know how to do it and you know how to do it really quickly I did learn really quick in the show me how to edit things and it's if you taught a child from first grade on how to use some new universal language essentially like a Rosetta Stone and something that's done would that interprets your thoughts and you can convey your thoughts with no room for interpretation clear very clear where you know what a person saying and you can tell what you're saying and there's no need for noises no need for mouth noises no need for these sort of accepted ways that we've sort of evolved to make sounds that we ignore all agree we've been through our cultural dictionary and we agree or bypass all that so you would be able to communicate very quickly and with far more Precision ideas and language I'm not sure what would happen to language you can follow that you would be able to do download the program so at least for the first iterations for a few iterations would just be able to like I know that Google has their some of their pixel buds have the ability to interpret languages in real-time like yeah you can hear it and it'll play things back to you in whatever language you choose so it'll be something along those lines yet for the first few iterations well the first Generations are I'm at what I'm talking about a psychic in the overtime you know with a lot of development the first few iterations really in the first few verses over going to be trying to do is is Salt Fat brain injuries continues to accelerate then maybe like 5 years 5 to 10 years because of you look at like the size their heads and the fact that they have very little muscle and then they don't use their mouth Hollywood Carnival slimming the archetypal an alien that you see my Close Encounters of the Third Kind they there like if you went from like Australia pithecus or ancient hominid to us what's the difference less hair less muscle bigger head and then just keep going thousand a million whatever your or five tiers whatever it whatever happens when your leg goes on online and then we slowly start to adapt this new way of being where we don't use their muscles anymore we have his gigantic had we can talk without words could also Save State official perspective probably but yeah you could save State and restore that stayed in to a biological being if you if you wanted to in the future principal is like nothing like for physics and point that prevents is that you could be a little different but then you're also a little different when you wake up in the morning from yesterday and you're a little different if you say like you five years ago versus you today is quite a big difference you certainly think you're you but the idea of saving yourself and then transforming that into some sort of a biological State like you can hang out with thirty-year-old you in the possibilities are endless Daffy if you got like it so far in the future you could you confirm that you could recall everything but just like it's a movie. if you had like a truthful thing right now could be a replace memory what's the odds of this being a replay memory go to guess more than 50% there's no way to sign I probably with accuracy here but roughly if you just had just got Instinct well I don't have any relation my brain so I'd say right now what you do have in your link then it rises above 0% memory is when people talk about simulation Theory they talk about the potential for this currently being a simulation it's even though your life might be wonderful you might be in love you might love your career you might have great friends but it's not comforting to know that this experience somehow or another doesn't exist in a material formed you can knock on it feels real. Ultra toric parameters like how do you know you're not a brain in a vat you know he has a thing you are braining event then that fashion school and everything you see feel hear everything is electrical signal to two of rain event with a package was cool and all your hormones transmitters all these things are drugs adrenaline's a drug dopamines a drug you're a drug Factory with love and oxytocin and and Beauty changes your state right music change your state infant projects which verse be true then we know the universe started off as basically quarks leptons and you quickly became hydrogen and helium lithium by cristianas the periodic table mostly hydrogen basically and then and then over a long. Of time 13.8 billion years later became sentient where along the way to conjure where is consciousness what's the line of Consciousness and unconsciousness between hydrogen and here or when do we call it when we call it Consciousness that was watching a video today that we played on a podcast earlier of a monkey riding a motorcycle down the street jumps off the motorcycle and tries to steal a baby it seems like it is f****** motorcycle and then jumped off the motorcycle try to steal a baby scene that pretty when people think about the potential future versions of human beings especially when you consider a symbiotic relationship to artificial intelligence it will be unrecognizable the one day will be so far removed from what this is will look back on this the way we look back now you know simple simple organisms that we evolved from and then it won't be that far in the future that we do have this this view back what I hope Consciousness propagates and future and guess what and that it understands the questions to ask about the universe do you think that's the case yourself you're clearly trying to make conscious decisions to be a better version of you right this is the idea of like getting rid of your possessions and realizing that you're trying to like I don't like this I will try to improve this I will try to do a better version of interface with reality that this is always the way things are if your moving in some sort of a direction where you trying to improve things you're always going to move into this new place we look back in the old place and go I was doing it wrong back then so this is an accelerated version of that yeah super accelerated version that I mean wrong in your ass to go through less wrong I don't think you're going to succeed everyday and being less wrong with you if you can succeed in being less wrong most of the time you're done right that's a great way of putting aspire to be less wrong but then when you know people look back in the staff about simpler times connected to the grid and you have some skullcap instant place of the top of your head and interfacing with the international language at the rest of the universe now enjoys communication with people instant place of the top of your head and interfacing with the international language at the rest of the universe now enjoys communication with people

Ali came to the set one dance Sopranos visited he was a fan of the show and he he his manager contacted my manager and I met him in front of the studio and brought him onto the set and nobody knew he was coming and Gandolfini was like in bed he was doing that when he was in the coma was all that stuff is like taking a nap between takes and I brought all the in the whole crew just like throws and then I brought him up to the bed light app holyshit took pictures I recruit people gave me a standing of a people crying it was crazy he was such a star and such an iconic figure that my parents who were hippies they didn't give a fuk about fighting but when he fought Spinks in the rematch they made us watch it we're living in San Francisco boxer because hard for people to realize that now in retrospect but when I was a kid during the Vietnam war he was also a symbol of the resistance to this unjust war that we didn't want to be a part of the guy lost three years of his career because you wouldn't fight in the war until they stripped him of his title in his prime like he beat Cleveland big Katt Williams for the finest performance of his young career and then for 3 years he doesn't do s*** until he comes back and was it was a he was more he transcended Sports all over the world all over the world she's also a cautionary tale for pro boxers you know if you think that getting hit in the head has no consequences when you know towards the end of his life is very hard to why he wasn't but he was very present neurologically he wasn't capable of like really speaking and also everyone to watch him and listen to him the only one is avoided that George Foreman

New York like right now you know I've been there I left I've been here a month now and I have a place down in Orange County and New York was all f***** up and it's so boarded up my daughter's there I live downtown way downtown and I was going out like an hour a day you know that's it I just went out and take a walk and the streets are empty 320 a night now after the Looting they destroyed Soho and I was just destroyed you know and the cops are very timid and and it's all f***** up I mean it's all f***** up I I don't I don't know what happened in the art galleries in SoHo while they were smashing Fifth Avenue scary and I'm not a political guy but he's the worst f****** human that maybe walk the face of the earth I kid you not and you know I do that apartment in Manhattan for like 9 years and when he became the mayor within a year you saw even six months right you saw like these f****** changes I'm going I'm out I'm selling my truck cops that basically that have one hand tied behind their back feet change all these laws stop-and-frisk some needed to be changed so I'm not just the homeless is everywhere all of a sudden the train to Impossible there's all kinds of s*** going on that you know and I have to blame the mayor I mean you know where I live. Which is why I'm not the f****** mad but they're everywhere same thing here are our governor was the mayor of San Francisco which is the craziest f****** place you've ever seen your life becomes almost because it's a problem then and now after cold like ramped up 40%. The homeless situation there is it doesn't even make sense like you seeing these beautiful homes in his campsites in front of them and these people have to come out of their houses and you know tiptoe around needles and broken bottles and and people s*** this might get worse you know collapsing that's what that's what that's what was happening with the cove at 2 in New York because these guys standing on a corner that panhandling there's no one there was no one to get money from I mean there's no one that panel the streets were completely empty Broadway downtown you can shoot a cannon to it not a car yeah Mark Normand you know the comic Mark Normand hilarious guy filmed a bunch of s*** with him just running around New York City with empty nobody around how Weird Al Wall Street is that the oldies places that have packed or empty I don't know the answer and what the cops I don't know I mean I just don't know it's all so bizarre and I think so many people are either going to resign from the 4th but definitely not join the forest there's a lot of guys ever think about that if God forbid I had trouble I called cop I'm in cop a cop now I've been on Blue Bloods for 5 years my daughter had just got back and is it really depressing man yet you haven't been no I've been in California since March 1st I was in New York before that and so yeah I got couldn't go back really but I live here and they're both places in Santa Barbara area perfect size but I mean I was in New York today shut us down March 13th with two-and-a-half episodes to go we just got shut down and then you know that you couldn't even go out of the house two days later I mean I wasn't aware of anything I mean maybe at that concert watch the elevated order food and I was just crack makes you crazy wipe off the package don't wipe off the gloves don't wear gloves what the f***

that's something that is always called you being an acto not really I was going to go in to be a doctor or something like that you know I'm really really good in school but my father was a bus driver in the Bronx and he started doing community theater somebody to do that and so I always saw cool movies and even saw some theater in New York cuz my parents took me but then my last year of high school I was like what the hell. What do you really want to do I mean if you can do anything I really literally asked myself what would it be the big one flavors the way they live their life they live their life starting out of the gate and their career hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and not just doctors even people who don't even go to grad school into it more and more my last year to a high school I wasn't acting I didn't do any acting then and then after I went to an acting school in New York and took a couple of classes there and then stayed for a for a long time actually with the couple of the teacher and met a lot of people that I still work with today back then in a couple of War on The Sopranos performance is that your love like theater I mean it's it's always about the specific project in the material and the people you're with but doing a live is really special because hey you're doing the whole story every night from beginning to end right and you have that you're onstage for whatever 2 hours it's that concentration of that commitment in the movies and television as you know is broken up into little bits throughout the day and and it's a different kind of concentration but there is something special about being in front of it different every night the reactions are different every night and there's an interplay that's very exciting so do you still do it now do you go back and forth and having in a while I mean theater I mean I did I hope to start doing it again soon you know at one point my wife and I built a theater and we were producing new place West 29th Street Manhattan like what was there before I was just like a raw space I think it was a it was a club at one point and then literally my wife and my father-in-law built it again and it looks like a theater from from like a hundred years ago is beautiful 75 seats was very intimate and we did only new place that has never been done and I'm we also had classes there I think between 3 and like 2010 so this is a real labor of love we had a few private you know donors who really loves what we're doing and I mean I feel to see it or basically I did a movie kind of not so good movie for Harvey Weinstein yeah I didn't ask that much there I did more directing and I mean we produced all the plays I did a directed a bunch of them I think I only acted in one of them but but it was kind of the inmates run the Asylum really cuz it was really a company but it was accompanied by default cuz there were a lot of people that go to people that I you know worked with but it was yeah it was really one of my wife built all the stats for all the shows as well as built the place itself so intimate really intimate that's a wild decision to make good to build your own theater was her idea I wouldn't have done it probably cuz I done worked in theater company in and I knew what you know it's hard it's it's not a good business model and I knew what it do know it's hard it's it's not a good business model but if it's you have the kind of passion and we just found a way to do what she's like no we'll build it was like but it was really fun while it lasted

when there's been disputes or things have been wrong the seems like there's a clear path to to sort of work things out doesn't seem like a clear path is he it seems like everyday kind of gets a little worse so I could get ramped up even more and then there's this event that's a looming on the horizon is November event the selection event and no matter what whether it's left or right with her Biden wins or Trump wins is going to be Madness and chaos it seems hard for me to understand that Biden could maintain his health you do through a presidency that seems very challenging to me I mean it seems like he's been going down you know with his coherence level you can kind of see it over even months right he's on a really really rapid downward spiral f****** reason that guy eats it up but for most people running for president alone just the grueling just that the schedule is involved in traveling and doing all these speeches and it just breaks them down mean one of the reasons why Hillary lost was she just wasn't willing to travel as much it was all these different events that she was supposed to go to she just couldn't go she couldn't take anymore she thought she was going to win anyway so she just laid back it's a brutal thing but it's really also just completely insane that the two candidates are these two people that is hard to comprehend f****** anybody but but anybody I mean we don't even know who is vice president is right and that's going to make a big deal that's to be a big deal because the vice president's compelling and interesting says going to pick a woman whether he picks probably was going to pick Klobuchar responsible for Minneapolis so well that's not good and then if he's going to go with Kamala Harris Tulsi gabbard kind of took the legs out of that lady so then who's left mayor Pete you seems like a guy was just like he's got a Playbook just kind of like following this Obama Playbook and I just don't feel it from him at all the ways he's gay you have a gay guy in office that have lighting people up a little bit I believe that we are powerful gay leader I think it'd be great for the country like I think you don't like one of the things about Obama being office beside the fact Isn't So well-spoken Statesman that is like hey look we're making progress but we have a black president like I felt that if I felt like a wave across the country people like you can be present in this country like even if you're born out of a single fan with single mother family and you are a black guy you can as long as you got the goods you can make it but this is great this means we really are living in a meritocracy and it'll be great gay guy that have the same experience like like all the people that are homophobes like a butt at f****** Mayer did the Democrats scared of her she doesn't play games which is so crazy I know she's got everything served overseas deployments racist lady she's willing to talk to people on the other side she's out she's a Estates woman she's the way she speaks she speaks like a leader but they won't even consider her too dangerous leader but they won't even considering it's too dangerous well I'm going back to DJ Dwayne The Rock Johnson as an independent

I have to at least bring this up a little bit to clarify little bit what I did to John Dudley on the Jiu-Jitsu mat so I'm giving him his wife I'm just completely you know I'm chilling and I K this is this this is that and I'm not even I'm not even doing it like this that we are in one weekend Andy John and me we did we did archery which I have never done before then we did Jujitsu which John is never done before anyone down the wind tunnel which John and never done before you know cuz and he's like a goddamn parachuting bubble Lots we can really let Beyond it so it's you just to time so I'm like Okay cool so I'm going over hey this is the guard this is the Mount going over all the basic stuff I'm just giving the basic overall kind of Concepts so I get done with that you know and I'm done but I'm done I I'm just done you do grades good introduction and then Dudley is like well let's go a little bit and I'm like that's the wrong language I would pull him aside he freaking attacked me he came at me and W a big strong athletic guy 6 what is e65 and yeah I know G is equal to what I have a little have a good technique for doing it but no big deal Ezekiel truck he's this is the thing that I really wish I should have explained more because we hadn't rolled I wasn't like hey when you start to feel like you got if you got to tap out right if he knew to tap out but I kind of figured everyone was out so I put the choking on him right well he doesn't know what to do so he he's grabbing me any you squeezing me so he's on the bottom High mounted I've got these Eco choking and in order to defend himself in his own mind he's squeezing me into him which the way I do my Ezekiel choke it hurts I mean it compresses the choke even more and so basically I put my hand make a fist and I put my fist in my sternum and then I can go grab the form here and an arch my shoulder so there's the neck right here it closes it right so it's cool craic is an air choke gnarly and so I'm just doing this and you can see that hole and you shrug but as I'm doing this he's panicking and pulling me into him and he only did it for a second hyoid bone and then it built calcium up around it so he calls up Andy one day and he goes dude I think I got throat cancer cuz there's something growing in my throat what happened so I guess in my defense wasn't it wasn't like a big deal it wasn't it wasn't crazy it wasn't crazy it was just normal be like if if you grab somebody that showed up here like hey you know I can you roll with me you'd be like oh cool and you put them in a kind of whatever maybe even though I was just chilling he was not he was doing level 7 prisoner kermode I'll be there probably feel like they can just kind of go crazy and you'll just absorb it and deal with it so they just try it let's see what happens when I go crazy so now he holds it over my head we're up in Montana and I said hey man he's like you doing all this awesome stuff man you're the man dude I really appreciate what you did for me broke my neck I thought you meant it's all good between it's all good with you but so there's something in that is f****** with his truck making him coffee

CDC another world hear the falchi said US Government held off promoting facemask because it knew shortages were so bad that even doctors couldn't get enough so is he just saying that now so guess what and it regular people shouldn't be wearing masks and then the World Health Organization said that asymptomatic people it's extremely rare that they transmit the other people to we were worried about asymptomatic language the reason why we kept stop for anybody people have the flu and I want to miss a day of work these f****** show up and give it to everybody that's normal and kids actually died from the flu and it's not a small number so small number of people that died from the flu last year was 60 mm and it's not as many as covid-19 we're getting incentivize to report death as covid-19 podcast said if you got killed by a shark but you were covid-19 David listen is a Cobra Jet obviously he was being facetious but not entirely because there's a lot of people with leukemia obesity heart attacks listed as a Kobe because it doesn't positive for covid-19 Cove in covet death can we hear those statistics and you see these things that they're saying and just a lack of trust that you end up with the government when the government is already people just generally don't really trust the government a lot right right there's no one that's always thinking the government is always give them the straight skinny and goes back to this clip baby bulshit my wife pointed out the store yesterday when she's reading about this kid that died seventeen-year-old kid perfectly healthy it says she reads in the article type 1 diabetes type 1 diabetes is not perfectly happy and f****** dangerous you have to take insulin to stay alive and think you can get complications from type 1 diabetes fauci telling us the only reason why you chose not to wear masks because they knew you didn't have enough like holyshit how many people died because of that you f*** and then the World Health Organization says actually no one died situations where I did not know what's happening by the way we're seeing examples where this is actually not happening inside America right now if your leader tell the people the truth about what's going on that's what you need to do and then people come back to me they say well what if what if I don't know what what if I don't know the truth then what you do is you say hey I don't know the truth hey guys I don't know I don't know exactly how was going to play out these are some contingencies that I'm preparing for that is so much more acceptable from the troops then when you try to pretend like you know what you're talkin about it turns out you're wrong right I mean Trump does this so much that people lose track of it right where he thinks something and he just goes out on a limb find out that they actually did perfect like we're worried about we don't have enough mask then you know what you come out and say you can buy you say listen everyone we're not 100% sure what the masks do for people but we do know this inside of a medical environment we have to prioritize getting those people that are absolutely exposed these masks that is why we are going to put some kind of a control over who's allowed to buy them you just tell the truth was kind of happening at some places like Amazon was only doing that doing selling those what is it and 9595 now we can't trust you ever again exactly that's the freaking problem you're looking at this guy next time there's some kind of disease next time is wrong how do we know if we can listen to we could we could face permanent damage LOL you know if you should have and that this is actually something I'd talked to you about it I said hate it seems like maybe some people should be quarantined and other people shouldn't and he's like yeah absolutely like my dad who's older guy who's a year old daughter should they be in isolation should they be quarantined absolutely not absolutely not first week 2 weeks you can make an extra Miss call you can say hey guys I don't know what's happening but in Italy it looks real bad shut down for 2 weeks might be impact our medical system will shut down for another two weeks just another two weeks never goes you know I got to pay my mortgage but okay two more weeks and then you say then you got to have the courage and nobility put your ego in check until you know what thank you may may not have been necessary we don't know right now but it looks like we can start opening back up let's rock and roll. The problem is once they tell you what to do they don't stop having that power and control are literally said wear masks because then we can get back some of our freedoms will restaurants you want a restaurant to operate on 50% capacity that restaurants aren't making this kind of money where they can throw away 50% of their profits how much are 25 you don't make any money so there's going to be a lot of businesses that run that dated a month-to-month paycheck-to-paycheck to try and stay afloat that's me up that's what America does

Jack connected to the ocean what is it about the ocean that you you always post pictures of the sunrise in the ocean. I don't think there's no going surfing just going to just go in the ocean and plus my my life was kind of being in the SEAL Teams was always we always had that it was part of our life you know part of my life with the ocean growing up in the ocean just there's some I don't know you know I guess I guess for me it's a huge like nature write your people you should give you should go outside go outside and go hiking a mountain you know go go to Montana and hike around see what that feels like go to go to Idaho check that out go to the mountains go to California mountains that you feel different you feel different I feel humbled you feel small you feel prospective so the ocean does that for me and it's just mind-clearing right you go out surfing like your mind is kind of kind of like you did to hey you got to get out there done with a good role in Jiu-Jitsu and you say won't even remember it cuz your mind is just gone you'll just monkey mind is total Zen State same thing with her being in the water for me surfing same thing like up I'm out here and my mind is just empty its monkey mind and and I think that's really good for you plus the fact it's humbling plus the fact it's healthy so yeah I just have a strong connection to the ocean like my son's do real Waterman you know he's out and he's ours all the time I'd hate to do that to him and then my little daughter is getting her surfing out so yeah it's just one of those things man yeah the major components is the ocean an operation that involve the water it just sucks it just everything about it sucks everything about it sucks you're getting to know you know you're parachuting from a plane into the water it's night time you got both your freaking parachute like drifting around you got to get your motor started it's freezing cold boats flip over then you got to drive that boat to the beach and you got to drive through the surf zone your weapons are covered with sand you're free it's just everything sucks everything sucks about it so when that's kind of your starting and by the way you have been conducted your operation yet uses you haven't even started the operation and you're freezing cold your tired your radio got flooded out your your night vision goggles are freaking filled with sand everything sucks and now you got to conduct your operation so in order to survive that way on a regular basis that's one of the things that makes the SEAL Teams good as we're we're used to this one additional component all the time that you survive that way on a regular basis that's one of the things that makes the SEAL Teams good as we're we're used to this one additional component all the time that you always have to deal with you have to figure that out you have to be able to cut through it that's why I'm basic still try to put you in the water for a long time

as much of a difference between like a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu and what would be considered an equivalent you know world champion 100 yeah DIY rules restart on a guy's back and you know you have a really good chance of submitting him if you got a great we're naked choke this is not that 20 feet away from the guy and you're standing and you know you have to close that distancing you're not a great wrestler either component right in the UFC Mark Schultz fought in the UFC only fight one UFC fight but that's what you want to go to see like a world champion Olympic gold medals top of the food chain wrestler you're only on your feet if you want you to be like you eat a good luck throwing that punch or kick because you have no chance he's going to close the distance and dragged back then part of the whole skill set of MMA yet you basically had what you came in there with your karate guy that's what you had your moytie guy that's what you got you got to hope you land that elbow before that guy clenches with her there is a overall strategic advantage to grappling because you can close the distance and if you're going to punch me you have to get close enough to chaos Factor especially in a street fight the chaos factors like bodies are flying is bad timing that clinches have it sound like you know what you're watching occasional street fight where a guy he's off on some drunk guy and you know it lands the perfect punch and knocks Michael that does happen but you know what also happens melee fight a Grappler who's good at takedowns when you're on the Conch that is the absolute worst in the world to get suplex on your head on the concrete and one of the worst things that could ever happen you basically getting hit in the head by the world well this is why I want to talk about the kind of self-defense if you come to me and you want to fight me and you like square off like in a boxing stance I can run away from you right I can just run away I got to run away I'm a if you want to kick me I can run away from you like there's my primary self-defense is I'm just going to run away from you when you grab hold of me now everything's different I can't run away anymore now I have to actually know how to handle myself in a grappling situation so that's why I start with jiu-jitsu and look absolutely absolutely no doubt about it but the very first thing you need to learn is cuz if you want to fight me I can run away if you swear off where you push me good I'm running away that's fine I'll take that but when should you grab ahold of me now I got a problem cuz I can't run away run away no problem is the ego or people don't know how to fight and someone put their Dukes up and they decide to see what they can do they decide in that moment to either fake it or just like see if they can possibly hit the guy and then they get the bank Summit he's off on them yeah I think that's the right now YouTube is going to continue because it's a large part of fighting grappling in general I think it's going to continue to get more and more popular because because of ct13 right they get older they should they know how to throw punches absolutely should they get in the boxing ring sometime to do some more time at absolutely you should absolutely do that as a human but you know you can do that when you're 17 maybe 16 you can start getting that stuff in but the kid's jiu-jitsu I don't think of anything else better form does this when someone does this and then there's this is coming when I do this this is, like you should know that some people don't know that that you you should know how to protect yourself how to keep your hands up how to duck under things you should know that it should you should understand the timing you should understand distance and timing those are important things but want to have like some sort of a kickboxing match with some man on the concrete like I don't advise that advise clench and Tripp advice get out of there what's high and somebody hit me up in 5 tried it but I don't I don't like to fight and I'm like hey if you don't like the fight to fight you more than anyone else should learn Jiu-Jitsu because if you know you probably will go down a lot just by the way you carry yourself just the way by the way you present yourself the chance of you having if I go down a lot you're involved in real life struggles the thing about like karate sparring a lot of Point like the lights boring is it's not the real chaos that comes with an actual fight where is Jiu-Jitsu is full blast with them you know what it's like to resist with a 100% non-compliant body you know someone you get accustomed to it you know what to expect as someone swings for you and clench with them you know what it's like to resist with a 100% non-compliant body you know someone

a lot of it is this right so people are feeling a certain way and they're not they're not sweet like this girl that wrote all lives matter do you think that was her clandestine way of showing that she's all about white pride you know what I mean know she was thinking hey everyone matters you probably haven't said nice and I think most people are pretty I think most people are pretty reasonable I think if you know anybody looking at at the Gorge boy tastes like yeah that's completely wrong that's disgusting it's horrible tainted to watch I haven't heard anyone say anything other than that so how are we just getting so completely divided on this whole thing and start attacking people attacking each other just over over absolutely everything that's a good point because no one is saying there's nothing that cop did no one know 100 people but yet everybody still at each other's throats 0 people have have stuck up like I in any way shape or form in law enforcement and the guy to lean on his neck for about eight minutes 40 40 45 seconds 46 seconds no one saying that right which I think is crazy crazy if you want to get someone to be under control and you can't choke them you know what you have to do you have to hit him in the head with a baton seven times and you got to risk giving him brain damage permanently injuring them if people know what they're doing I mean obviously if people know what they're doing people that are doing it wrong is the problem the people that shouldn't be doing in the first place it's on train people it's but if you're if you're not you're a copy or a fight for your life and you can't use Chokehold that's f****** crane saying you're going to get shot and killed or somebody else is going to get shot and killed some of them take your gun and the idea of the police and I understand the premise okay and this is once again we're many people that Sadie phone the police they don't mean hate you get rid of police of course there's a there's a fraction people that are saying defund the police mean we don't want any more police anymore there's a report of people saying that there's some people are saying well if we default on the police we can relocate some of that money and we can do you know better schools and we can put money into the infrastructure inside these neighborhood but here's the problem you know what the police need more than anything else they need money for training and there was a way the police departments are set up they do the ridiculously miniscule amount of training for what their job is so we would train for 18 months 18 months we were trained to go on a 6-month deployment cops they train they get like 2 hours or 4 hours of combatives training a year a year that's that's complete Insanity it's complete Insanity the thing I've been saying is cop should train 1/5 of the time 1/5 of the time you should be training whether it's 2 hours a day 4 times a week or whether it's a one-day-a-week where you're going to go and you're going to go through scenarios you're going to do combat as you're going to work with simunition you're going to do dee escalation drills because it's really hot who is going to be fired up to be a cop right now who's going to think you know what when I grow up I want to be hated by entire know by Massive portion of the country I want to be viewed as someone that's that kills innocent people the recruiting in cop for police going to go down so hard it's going to be ridiculous and then who you getting there you're going to get people that are worse level people worst level humans are going to show up to be cops so the training so they should do very very scenario driven training right where you come into a room and this isn't like super expensive stuff either you come into a room there's a person there they appear to be compliant you asked you you learn how to talk to you very quickly learned that instead of yelling them out of the out of the gate you say hey man what's going on hey what what's your name then you learn what to do when they're not when they don't respond the way you wanted to respond then you learn what to do when they start to do something drastic what's the best thing for you and you play through these news it's just like you did too in the fact that what what makes you just a good what makes you get your good as we can go hard against each other over and over again and not really get hurt not really kill till you get really good at it that's what you need to do in training for police you need to go through these tough scenarios over and over again cuz you do get you do get better at it you become you learn how to mentally detach and not get emotional and realize that there's other things that are happening when you see the the George Boyd case the other cops too short. Time no one in that group of four obviously you got the killer himself he's he's actually conducting the ACT but all the other guys are not paying attention. are all emotional themselves they stay back in and they're probably watching him sing with the wisenet guy moving and they're just caught up in it where is if someone would have showed up on the scene or one of those guys had been through some good training in their life they were said what's happening here hold on my partner over there have been on this guy for 2 minutes he's not moving anymore on the walk over into hey man let me take over I got this deep go over there decompress this takes training you have to train people in the Seal team training guys you get a young kid that's coming through training for the first time they go into a room in there getting shot with simunition bullets are there someone yelling and screaming or do we put we put Arabic women coming walking out of rooms we have people get blown up with wounds we would do this to them over and over again so they realize okay I just got to relax I got to take a step back I got to detach from the situation so I can process what's happening and I can make a good decision because as I said earlier no one is a good decision when they're panicked when they're freaked out when they're scared as a Jiu-Jitsu guy when someone puts hands on you you're not actually scared right you're like no okay I know what to do here if you don't know what you did to if you've never had someone grab you before or you haven't had someone grabbed you in 17 months or 14 months no one's laid hands on you cuz you got a badge and a gun so people do something 95% emotions are spike your adrenaline Spike and the only way to overcome that is through consistent training that happens on a regular basis you can just transfer me one time it's like rain rust you know you can't do now I don't need it anymore no you need to do continuous training so so that fact right there if we want to help the police through these situations we need to invest more money into them we need to get them better training we need to you been out of the field to train and pull them out of the field to decompress because you're going to ride along no like you what are you doing a ride-along whether you're going into any situation where you're thinking you could be killed and even it's just a remote chance but you're doing that all the time all the time and your hearing your seen on the news Euro you hear this know your buddy got shot your buddy got whatever this other guy got Yo take his gun taken away stuff happens that stuff happens people get killed I mean there's been a change has been 31 cops killed this year 31 cops killed this year and a lot of those That's not including you know like a car accident or covid-19 Bunch that acovet but just people that have been engaged with bad guys and they got killed a cop mindset builds in that mindset build then you're working 10-hour days and you're working 12-hour days and there's no training and there's no brakes where do you end up right where do you end up you end up being a little bit paranoid you end up being a little bit angry what happens when you get in a fight with your wife you know it's like all these things you add them together it's a freaking hard job and from a from a like an entire systemic way of training and recruiting and keeping police ready to do their job whatever that job entails because let's face it most of the time that a job entails or well I guess most the time and Tails hey I'm going to have a bad I'm about to go have a bad relationship with another human being that's what's about to happen right I'm pulling you over being called to your house cuz you were yelling and screaming people who have your wife screaming or whatever that's what's happening I'm showing up in a bad relationship you don't like me and I already don't like him that's where we start that's where we start so we got to train people for that we also got to trade him for all the times that they go in to help people save people the first people on the scene at car accidents people are bleeding out we got to train them for that and then they have to also be trained for hey this is a bad guy that's going to this is the guy that you just talked about a gas station with a weapon that wants to kill a bunch of people you got to be prepared for that whole Spectrum as a police officer and yet we send them to a three-month-long police academy and then we send them out in the street and that's what they do day out day and day out it seems to me that they need to be vetted too much better than they are now just like the seals but you can't get through buds unless you are a superior human being you have to be able to tolerate a bunch of s*** but most people are going to fall apart during and this is this seems to me that this a great way to weed out people that just don't have it yeah there's what will one thing it's interesting just from a physical perspective most police departments don't even have a minimum physical requirement to continue to be on the force that you have to be a certain level to graduate from the academy but often times there's no standard beyond that I've seen cops before the closing the distance on you like you yeah yeah but the mental aspect is stuff that you can get you can get better at it but you only get better at it through training and you only get really comfortable through training a lot and yet we put these people in this horrible position over and over and over again and we get we don't give them the proper training encouraged to want to defund the police that's a great way for them to get brownie points from their constituents I want the police to find it which is it's the dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life it's it's so crazy that this is actually gaining steam to the point where it in Minneapolis because they're trying to quiet down the mob they've actually gone ahead and done it what the f*** is Minneapolis going to look like in a year from now it's going to look like Mad Max I'm it's going to be crazy that's going to be it's going to be crazy it's going to be there are you crazy energy drink is the s*** that's very good yet. I just don't understand where they think this game ends and I don't think they planned it out if they're not playing chess the other the other thing that you're you're talking about this brownie points for the politicians in and there's brownie points and there's people trying to create sides my side versus your side and that's a completely political thing right and all that does is increased The Divide between the police and the civilians and end this reminds me a lot of of counterinsurgency right to counterinsurgency the insurgents are no bad guys inside of a country the country is not bad. There's some bad guys in a country so what you have to do if you actually have to go out and build relationships with the good people inside that country so that the good people inside that can help you get rid of the bad people what happens if you go out in this is so this is ramadi Iraq this is but my last deployment to Iraq there's a bunch of just totally normal good people Iraqi people that are living in the city of ramadi to do you know what they want to do they want to send their kids to school little market they want to do that's what they want to do they have the same goal as a normal family inside that group of Elisabeth bad people and these are insurgents, more foreign Fighters some of them are for and regime elements from Saddam but they're bad and he want to create chaos and Mayhem so Americans we go in there if we go in there super heavy-handed and while I go to capture or kill one bad guy kill or maim a couple of those normal civilians what happens well a couple of those normal civilians family to wait good you guys are bad you guys just killed my brother he didn't do anything wrong and then we do it again and then we do it again and then we do it again and each time that we do this we're creating more animosity from the local populace who by the way like I said they're just not good normal people so what we had to do is really focus on going out and building relationships with the local populace how do we do that in one of this this happened after I left but you remember the surge that took place in the end a bunch more troops over there part of the reason that they sent that certain part of the reason that that was allowed to happen was because the Battle of ramadi where I thought went very well and since it went well people said well maybe maybe we can pull this off so they sent more troops and one of the directives that General Petraeus gave is he said there can be no more drive by counterinsurgency and what he meant that by was when you go to a neighborhood you can't just drive through the neighborhood in your Humvee in your bulletproof Humvee with your windows up drive-through show of force and then leave that doesn't work what you have to do is stop your vehicles you have to get out you have to talk to the local populace just to ask him what's going on you have to ask them if they need anything you have to build relationships with the local populace the good local populace that just wants those insurgents out of there and that's what I don't see happening and the more we increase this divide between the police and the civilians the worst that's going to get and so the police have to start doing a better job of Outreach of hey you know if you did a ride along they should be offering ride-alongs all the time till the local kids 17 year old kids 15 year old kids hey come and see what my job is like to come and help me out what it looks like from your ankle get out Meet the Parents meet the families that's where we're failing to build relationships between the police and the civilians and not causes that that causes these problems I think you're 100% correct but I don't hear anybody repeating what you're saying that's was terrifying to me I think everything you're saying is logical it makes sense it comes from experience I don't hear anybody saying this what's happening cuz they're too in it right there to in it there were wrapped up in it and that's another part you know I talked about recruiting who you recruiting recruit those kids recruit those kids but you have to build a relationship with him before you can add before anyone's going to go to the police and looked I think it's there I think at the LA Police Department if you look at the LA Police Department compared to the racial makeup of La they they're pretty equivalent and a pretty quick on purpose they do that for a reason so you got to get that you got to continue to build that those relationship so that we talk to one another you know we actually communicate with each other because anytime you know I'm allowed to sit over here in my area and you're sitting over there in your area we're building animosity we build that kind of animosity between each other and now the littlest thing the littlest thing I mean there was a woman that was killed in Minneapolis to 3 remember this one female yoga instructor called the police the police called the police report a disturbance police showed up and there's no video no footage she gets killed by the cops she gets killed by the cops it's insane that does that these things happen but we also have to remember what like I said what is a police officer thinking about and what kind of training and we give them and what kind of psychological screening so you what kind of strike man is not just one time psychological strength screening cuz that's what people get burnt out and it happens at different times two different people you take 35 guys in combat I've got some guys at the end of a 6-month appointment they are you know what they're telling me can I stay longer I'm doing fine you get one month into that deployment you've got other guys they're saying hey do you need anyone to head home early that happens so you think in a police force of a thousand people or whatever you're going to have some people that are steady mentally stable they can deal with it they can go they can they can get being an officer-involved shooting today and tomorrow they can go back to the job and be perfectly fine there's other people they can never work again after there an officer-involved shooting what kind of investment are we making into this psychological health of police and look I hope it doesn't sound like I'm sitting here just putting it all on the police because everyone is playing a role in this and one of the things that you need to look at as well as how to get arrested right there should be a public service course on how you should get arrested this is what you should do if the cops are pulling you over if the cops ask you if the cops approach you about something here's what you should think one of the things you should think it's okay this cop may not be bad. Maybe looking out for my welfare right now that's a great hopeful thought the other thing that you have to think is kind of worst-case scenario this cop might be a this cop might be looking for somebody that fits my description. My buddy just been in a fight with his wife you might have just lost a part of this a million bad fix use that scenario in your head use that sneering your head to to to contemplate how you're going to interact with a police officer which is you know what they're looking at their looking at your hands you know why because that's where the threat comes from the threat comes from your hand so when you're making quick movement with your head don't do that listen to what they say move move slowly remove this should be Public Service the police should be putting out hay if you interact with the police we hate to have to say this but since our police sometimes are in bad situations here's some things we recommend and we highly suggested we beg we beg that you do this we beg cuz what happens to these cops when they kill somebody what happens them their lives are just totally destroyed about that guy in Minneapolis he's already killed people he's already been involved in at least two shootings and he had more than a dozen complaints against him by The End by the end result. That's the type of guy he was pretty obvious by the fact that he was able to do that to a man the guys literally calling out his dead mother you know I mean that the type of man that can stay on someone's neck while they're doing that when all that guy did was have a counterfeit $20 bill that's it this is where when you talk about psychological screening and not that's why I'm saying it has to be to be constant because people people change right and red flags I mean like you said hindsight's 20/20 we're looking at this case now and by the way interesting we enough if you talk to Internal Affairs at Police Department's the vast majority of the complaints that they get about other about we are from police so they can they report each other that's a little known fact most of the most reports don't come from the civilians out there saying hey this happened to that happen to most of them as cops and hey this guy was out of line here well that's that's a good sign during this climate what what what scares me the most is I don't see a way we don't talk to each other. That's where there's no solution because you look for every 10 viral video that you see of a of a cop hitting somebody with a baton or a ride or throwing something through a window for every 10 of those viral videos there's another viral video that has you know the guy with the free hugs t-shirt on that's out talkin the cops and saying hey you know I get it and they're communicating with each other and talking and when you communicate with people it's just like a hostage rescue basic technique you want to humanize you want to humanize instead of dehumanized and right now we're just dehumanizing each other completely and that's what scares me more than anything else is if we can't talk to each other cuz look you take the most hardened soldier in war something you know some badass holder this done for deployment six deployments whatever and you put them into a room with a a kid in the mom on Iraqi kid no Mom or no and you put them in that room and say hey to sit here for 15 minutes and find out what they're about here's an interpreter that that guy's going to come out of the cognac I get where they're coming from its and same thing vice-versa you take a hardened jihadist and you said hey talk to this guy over here about what he's trying to do inside your country just just just talk to him when you open up the communication to and are you going to get some extremists on both ends yes you will so maybe I should have said the most hardened soldier in the most hardened Spartan soldier becomes a killer becomes a killer that happens happens all the time you know why it happens from time to time that's how you get the me Lai Massacre it happens that they're not going to change their mind they're not going to come to any any rose-colored view of America but barring those total extremes you got people you got to other human beings and if you can get them to talk to each other they can find consensus they can find common ground but if they're not talking to each other then we don't move it make any progress and what to your whole kind of point about what's happening right now there's less and less communication between people open communication because if you if you talk to someone and they say the cops did this this in this and you said oh okay being a cop when he sees that when you see something going on how many domestic violence cases happened and the person shows up and getting assaulted by both parties so maybe that's what you just Compass thinking we showed up and saw your mom in this situation and did this to your dad right like this is real conversations but we don't we don't have them and then we don't have them it seems like seems like there's forces that are actively trying to prevent us from talking to each other from sitting down at a table and saying hey man what tell me what's going on Who wants who wants to Country to be divided the people that you're talking about earlier than that how do they score points how do I score points with this group how do I score points with the other group is by making making everything as divisive as possible it's it's it's horrible to watch it's sickening to watch I was reading a whole series of tweets were the journalist that was talking about how cop shooting black man has a real problem but another real problem that's not being discussed by this black lives matter group is black on black crime and how do we stop all the murders that are taking place in Chicago this this is something that should be discussed and this guy was getting attacked and one of the one of the another journalist literally tweeting at him saying you have been told not to discuss this but yet he ignores these commands that the he should not discuss is a very real issue that it is if somehow or another bring you up another issue that is also a problem diminishes the original issue of this guy getting killed by cops which of course it doesn't but this day ideas this problems does real problems it's not just the cops killing these people there's there's the cop killed this guy in Minneapolis he didn't do anything in Seattle how the f*** did that s*** happen in Seattle what happened in Seattle because of his reactionary world where it where one person does something somewhere it gets through social media that gets through the mainstream media becomes this huge inflammatory subject and then you know windows are getting smashed things are getting lit on fire cars getting turned over blocks are getting taken and that's what we find ourselves I think it was May 29th there was a cop killed I want to stay in Texas and he was killed when they roll them to assume they got they got a call hey suspicious person running through the neighborhood they roll up on the scene they start a couple of a few cops are searching for this guy and they see a building with an open door they go Atlas maybe he's in there let's go clear this building when open door they go in this building when they opened or their shots fired one cop killed when the other cops so it's so it's so just you know friendly fire Death that right there if you if you take that and you just extrapolate that over how hard it is to be a police off that you can be going into a building and you shoot one of your friends because you think they're bad that is a real problem that's how hard this job is my point is that's how hard this job is but we have to do a better job of explaining that we have to do a better job of explaining how hard this job is as far as the hey don't talk about black on black violence I was trying I was talking with my podcast bro Echo Charles who's the black guy and we were talking about that and I said you know I think it might have a little bit to do with this if you were if you're watching UFC and there's two guys that are fighting and the round ends like at the end of the round all of a sudden the referee comes in and like punches one like just Muay Thai kicks a guy in the head and knocks him out everyone will be completely utterly outraged about this right cuz that guy wasn't in the game what was that guy doing so I think there's a little bit of that that's that's the if the referee is supposed to not do that and when you see a cop thought his hate that guys like that guys are viewed as a referee that guy is not supposed to be doing so I think that he's kind of where some of that that that outraged comes from because this is a cop this isn't supposed to be happening here this guy is no not supposed to be killing people and he did that the cop is just a person who has extraordinary power-gen is a responsibility to if you wind up doing that and then how do you get back out of that we can we do refund the police did you do wrap it up and do it better next time I mean this is a long process you're looking at a lot of trial-and-error here over you know perhaps multiple years before they figure out what they f***** up yeah and I know there's some there's some City I think it's in New Jersey that Camden yes that completely disband dismantle their police police department and actually get that like you could get a department that was so completely and utterly corrupt that you said we're getting rid of all of them and she has a corruption during the cocaine era of the 80s for the entire graduating police force retired from the police academy the entire graduating Year everyone was either murdered or went to jail for corruption everyone being tired graduating class that's how bad it was so if you have that kind of that kind of problem I guess you might want to dismantle that police work you know what happens in the Seal team sometimes sometimes there's a platoon that's so bad that they just very rarely so it's always come down to the leadership so sometimes they'll replace a leader but if the and usually when they replace the leader you'll watch the protein will turn around almost instantly because someone steps in and says alright here's what we're doing. We're doing it and they they make that change but sometimes you have just like a bad platoon and they say you know what you guys are done but if the and usually when they replace leader you'll watch the Pokemon will turn around almost instantly because someone steps in and says alright here's what we're doing. We're doing it and they they make that change but sometimes you have just like a bad platoon and they say you know what you guys are done

vintage at the answers is choco gummy answers like I thought they like magic the Gathering I have no everything's everything's am everything is problematic everyone's getting canceled it's amazing how many people did blackface yeah it's very strange it's very strange when I was in high school my friends are mr. t for Halloween nobody gave a f*** nobody was like Jimmy what's wrong with you everybody's like oh you're mr. t for Halloween it was never like a problem it's very it's a very strange thing you know but you can do white faced no problem. It was magic the Gathering invoke Prejudice card he brought me on to talk about this I should leave now and then all the Liberals get their feathers in a ruffle and everybody gets real super uptight and and then this is big divide between the left and the right that's kind of manufactured and then you have this disease block everyone inside to not work so if your business falls apart you could be the most hard-working diligent disciplined person who's always at work an hour early always has your eyes still go bro you still f***** and then you have this George Floyd thing and then boom it just ignites the power tag the other thing that's you have to wrap it around all this is this social media which is you know I'm only going to post things that are just going to completely make everyone that sees whatever I'm posting emotional and and filled with rage whether you're on the left or on the right my goal is to enrage people that's the Gulf stop over and over so you're taking all these little incidents and you're multiplying one times thousands and thousands of views and mainstream media is the same thing right it's not like there's a huge difference between why because it's going to end up bad every single time every single time and yet that's what our that's what our society is based on right now but it's based on these emotional reactions because of things like YouTube and user created content where anybody can kind of make videos so many things are vying for folks attention that mainstream media has resorted to clickbaity cut type shyt whether it's New York Times articles which you know used to be Beyond roach that they're they're gone social justice Warrior and clickbaity and all these other websites are 100% clickbaity that's the only way they can get people to pay attention like I saw it like the dumbest f****** article that couldn't believe how dumb it was it was an article on Ozark is like has Ozark been canceled and I'm like f*** they cancel that show that shows amazing so then I click on the article the entire article is about a guy who couldn't find season 1 on Ozark because there was a glitch and then he found it and so it's not cancer the whole article was just bullshittin but they got me they get everybody out there advertising dollars because they can show this with the audience CNN showed a guy got shot yesterday in San Bernardino Hispanic man got shot in San Bernardino Hispanic man gets gunned down by the police in San Bernardino leave out is the guy had a gun and was shooting at the cops so this guy's Got a Gun there's photos of this gentleman with a gun and there's a cop on his knees about to shoot the guy the guy standing in front of a gas station that has gas pumps maybe they wouldn't shoot at him because the gas tanks were right behind them that though the pumps were right behind them but why would they leave that out guy with gun in gun fight with cop dies is the right title Hispanic man gunned down by cops like they're literally trying to incite anger and violence they know that you read that and you say Hispanic man shot by cops like these m************ their murderers they won't stop and they leave out this picture of this man with a gun pointing it rage people actually opened it up and would actually probably say something like sounds like the cops did a good job on that one and kill the bad guy before he blew up a gas station in her killed a bunch of innocent people but that's obviously not in this neighborhood that would be a nice headline to read but you're not going to see it today if your wife tweets all lives matter you can get you can get fired all lives matter is it so controversial that you can get fired that did not happen to soccer player or something yes a soccer player's wife tweeted something like that controversial that you can get fired that did not happen to a soccer player or something yes a soccer player's wife tweeted something like that yeah

I've actually been shadowing Michael I cut my ties for like the last time I'm good friends with the with his manager Rob Rob Hickman and the Chester said that they're doing at Tyson Ranch mine is pretty cool and they're bringing medicine to the world so cold let's do it then my Uncle Mike said he's been talking about it for a minute so you know so we go out we go on this island off the of the Caribbean we have a African water called the person that a shaman Shaman I'm sorry and that he's out there and then your mic goes first so might imagine this is Mike Tyson he's doing these he's going he's going to be crazy because a lot of them what what that what that does that brings out your a lot of your as you say you do you open up stays a lot of your demons a lot of things that you probably been holding onto for a minute so I'm seeing I'm seeing Mike over here twist and turn and kind of thing talked about a lot of that don't want to share that stuff but you know talked about a lot of his past minutes as me and she said help at the same time and treat you know because so then I go up and I do it and the man to take me to especially out of retirement here man like I would almost kind of somewhat wanted answers I was hoping that it would give me a Pokemon this is like the path will not and it took me it took me to like it took me to my mom's like your mom's like first love you know and it showed me like in the store almost like in the movie you know how I was born how my mom add me how why how about time I was eight years old like I had my sister so will no longer the youngest of my mom kind of like you know if not fair is kind of someone pushed to the side leaving home at the age of 17 and then substituted my mom's love for self-fulfillment wrestling mixed martial arts and they brought me back to a little kid when I was maybe four or five when I would cry to my mom cuz I remember as a kid we would go away Lego from LA to New Mexico like in Greyhound number stopping at McDonald's and things like that but to me you know as a kid you don't know you're poor but what that it is that brought me back to the person that created and I brought me back to my moms love men sweat like it like resurrected something in me and I was crying I was asking for like forgiven So speaking in Spanish I'm off I don't like Mom forgive me it was something it was something scary in some ways because it does a lot of your your body like it's it's it's almost like you're in Judgment Day and you're the one that's being convicted and you're the judge to feel like the athlete thing was like okay they're super athletes and they don't have any symptoms for a operated in the past right II said anything against the church a shame you ostracize you who the f*** are you how could you say these things that put you in your little box where you get excommunicated any of us were like really kills everyone like are you sure come out and tell him what's going on they just rail at you nonstop and II and the second a single thing you are what they label you as I think Amazon even took that are booked a heretic if your asymptomatic you can't transfer it as easily they thought it's almost impossible to the grandmother's they're not going to only reason why elected it could be but it could be people were scared of people dying on their watch because now it's not the economy to get to re-elected its people dying on your watch well if someone comes along and says the reason why x amount of people died it could have been much less if you adjust done the right thing and kept those people safe and kept everything closed for another month you and your career you were known for lifting large amounts of weight to yeah yeah yeah lifting when I was in high school you know I had to like that against the strength you know I was pretty strong in high school and on my all throughout my college days and you know what that's me and a nice braids I'm laughing at me when what happened to your arm in a left to get a cast on a broken right there yeah I was kind of Eagle is it there from anybody so I kept getting bigger and bigger so nobody would catch up with me and you see me big up there like that but you know it took a long time for me to get there but I didn't happen overnight I put on about 5 lb of muscle between 5 and 10 pounds of muscle a year and that came from all that you know that heavy lifting a lot of eating a lot of eating I mean a lot to me you know but if it's somebody you know normal try to either probably a lot so I'll probably like a pound of chicken breast in a half a cup of rice that was a normal meal and go back to sleep laws that passed recently where the government can just look into your internet searching with no warrant whatsoever this is something that I don't know if you know about this part of the Patriot Act that this was one of the things that was people are furious at Senator Sanders Bernie Sanders didn't he wasn't there didn't show up for the vote and if he had shown up and go to the other way it wouldn't have passed he won't comment he won't he's been reached out for to comment on if he won't comment on it but it's disheartening in a lot of people who are progressives are furious at him and they they feel very very betrayed by this because not no one even knows like most you didn't know right most people don't know what the government can now look at all your dirty little searches for whatever reason I know James at home what if I have some code and go just look what it was Jamie looking at a bunch of people can peer into your life and you can't hear into their life when you see that that old man gets thrown to the ground the one that Trump said is Faking It That Bass just said yeah bleeding out of his f****** head and Trump's like they are f****** Daniel Day-Lewis actors like you know like sometimes I even said like dumb YouTube videos of funny YouTube video of somebody's girlfriend deleting his 2K NBA account and and he just destroyed everything for him like not to like or like whatever I was crying what is a f****** Emmy Award Oscar winning actor that s*** as fake as that is not easy to do people think everything is fake protest you are an off-campus apartment and tell the story I'm going to tell the quick version two of my buddies left to go upstairs you know they came back one of my buddies shoulders with separated the other guy fat lip and have flat top to remember this big f****** gash coming right down here and blood coming down his face and we would like to f*** have what the f*** happened we just ask party started beating on us so this whole mob goes up the stairs to go fight the party right and I'm going to see what the f****** my dick f****** hit I'm going to get knocked out here but I have to go up there and we hear the party so my buddy the mouthpiece guy like the most innocent boy ever knocks on the door because hey sexier party going on in there right the f****** door opens up in the wild west movie and the smoke f****** clears and it all settles it was all like f****** 15 second melee and then I'll f****** Saddles and we look at the party and there's like six or seven guys six or seven girls in this like a board game it's tipped over and we had gone to the wrong party swear to God I know it sounds like a joke the real party where they got hit with upstairs and I don't know what happened but they they were actually rich kids and they sued my friends whatever the dumb s*** they did we all went into the wrong party and they were in there having like a couples thing and they were playing like f****** Monopoly or something and all the sudden there was a knock on the door and then everybody just came f****** running in couples thing and they will plan like f****** Monopoly or something and all the sudden there was a knock on the door and then everybody just came f****** running in

this place is always been weird like that there's always no that's why you're the king do cuz you got outside of it but you totally in it and they can't they can't get you they can't get you high IQ no piling up some stories here being in the Matrix I won't get into him but it's the same it's just the same old corporations only know how to do business one f****** way and that's that's what they don't have a problem with that it's when they go beyond that and they just straight-up steel are they stealing look like they're losing money and yeah to Hollywood Hollywood have its scumbag accounting that's just how they do it and they sleep at night than it was at the accounting section of the building not over here takeoff they started to try to get in with the old model and weasel into podcasts and end by pieces of podcast and like if your deal what they're going to do now is what the music industry did what they said it started signing straight across the board deals some young kid who's got no power in the business and it's just like I will help you create a podcast you know what suicide was so and so above and what they're going to do is they going to own the podcast the advertising money is going to go to them and they're going to rob them f****** blind I guess I'm going to steal from them Rob them f****** blind and then when they get audited and they get caught stealing they going to label that kid that young, difficult to work with meaning difficult to steal from I mean names but their come out to Mango hey signed to this management company want to sign me but they want a piece of my podcast now I want a piece of this and they they wanted you got to grind you just going to hang in there and keep going I mean I got a lot of offers to buy half of the podcast where to buy piano nothing I wouldn't I won't I won't do it I will never do it but then Spotify came along and he said we'll give you a licensing deal so just put it on that work but you still on it and that's that's why we did it that way but he was telling me that is a piece of his podcast forever eventually will become yeah cuz what they're going to look at it is they're going to make it like if you started a podcast while you were which this manager or why what's this occasion to be like back in the day when you book the sitcom exactly and then if you left the agency of the manager throughout the lifetime of that sitcom you owe the commission to them back then that you needed them to do that you don't need them for the podcast but they're going to do that so then you're going to leave this manager and then for the rest of your f****** life you can repay in this never-ending alimony big eyes eventually we'll try to take 5060 Ionia podcast managers will start agents will start podcast networks because there's nobody regulating them to not do that anymore turn off for just five years ago from a company that was a radio company they wanted 50% the podcast I'm going to give me no money the one 50% the podcast just to be associated with them and like we're going to pull together all these advertisers and is going to help you Revenant now it's 50% living with what they say they're going to and then they come in and they just they just they got the thing with a beautiful thing about podcast this podcast all get big on word-of-mouth advertisers podcast I never did anything with it I never bought Billboards or put adds up anywhere it's just from where to mount and the way other podcast grow is people get on people's podcasts and they say Hey you listen to Bill Burr podcast Monday morning podcast podcast has no do not sign those deals ever do not let the fox Into The Henhouse because they are going to f****** rob you blind I just need a night I saw this documentary one time on this heavy metal band Anvil write this crazy thing about this band that just was around forever and never quite made it and there was a I think it was I think it was that one something 100% and only sell 20,000 copies then you are to not own it at all and sell 20 million like you're literally going to make more if you just sell 20/20 crazy on they dump that on you yes yes I forget what it was was with this network and I had a CD that was already made I already made it and I just wanted them to put it out on their label and they and they wanted to own the CD I was like nah I'm not no I don't want you to own it I just need you to to to like distributed I need you as a distributor and the guy said to me goes well you know ownership shouldn't be that big a deal for you it should be about exposure I said I would let me ask you this if ownership shouldn't be that big a deal to me why is it such a big deal to you and he started like stammering and then he basically said well you know we getting company name a couple of the comics who CDs didn't sell and we have to recruit those losses it's like that ain't my fault that's what I could have told you not to sign that you didn't work so that's the way I had another one what time is unregistered back when I made like CDs and I did one and I had a 60/40 you getting I was getting 60 and they were getting 40 but they are 40 was off the gross mine was off the net and all expenses for the album was on me I thought we were doing this together every f****** think the artwork printing it all of that all of those expensive came to me and in the end that's 60 40 60 net 40 gross they made way more money than I did it's just saw that you like okay well I'm getting $6 on every 10 a while ago right the guy was going to bill is 2500 bucks a month uses copier machine and did you did another forty-five hundred bucks uses editing this we have both of those things we don't need those let's take that money and put it on the screen we're trying to get this thing to go and the guy like he should ever he goes like f****** thief and you actually had the audacity to be like taking a bath like expanding yourself like I can't believe how many f****** shows you charging twenty-five hundred bucks a month to Go Dino f****** apartment sit for a couple hundred bucks a f****** month but even to buy a copy puppy has 9 shows paying twenty-five hundred bucks a month from the heavy commercial grade copy machine cost I think he's bought a couple of houses off the phone copy machine and you know this that thing where you want to take it to the next level and then these these guys come in and then they're all just like now hey we're going to take a piece of it and take a big fucken chunk out of it and what they do is their risk is all the way down here yours is up here and then somehow they just I'm telling you like you better you better to sell 20,000 copies on at 100% than 20 million and not on any of it that's just how the game is played in those who steal from people they sleep very comfortably adjust podcast just the stress of dealing with other people's eliminated just the stress of dealing with production people I was in town it slows it down yet so awful I mean do you know who the first guests will be and already I'm like oh yeah like I can't just sit here like Joe Knows we have a conference call I'm never available and that's nothing though that's nothing to me they're great but could you imagine if you were doing that with a network like imagine if what you were in business with ABC or something like that and there they were helping producer podcast you have to go in for meetings you have to go in and sign into the office building sign in here you go and sit down and waste your f****** afternoon having some Dopey conversation it kind of complain a lot when you read these letters Bill do you have to be what do you think how do you feel about product placement because we've got to get a great deal. I just wanted to I just wanted to tell a few of those for younger people out there because it actually really bothers me that people do that to people it really bothers me and I love comics and I love seeing new Comics coming up that have talent and I hate seeing them get f***** over so hopefully people listen and they do it but f****** worms man if they weren't worms there's a lot of worms out there and there's a lot of warm to try to grab Comics real that they're talented but real raw and they try to lock you up some enormous lifetime management deal when in when you take off and you have something here in specials before, started shooting them and the amount of guys that got that yeah we only got enough money for to shoot one you know it's only you could only see one time but you going to crush a man you got this hour down we only got enough in the budget and then they'd show up early and they be shooting another comic special off their money the deal to double them as management company what they would get or RN agency the amount of f****** times at that happened with the same audience that the money for the ticket sales was there because is all about the production because the money that people are paying for the production he's like the f*** are you talking about this is my audience but that's my money his management tried to steal the money from ticket sales and say that it went towards production went all the way to court with it as managers on the way to court to have the f****** panic attack goes to the hospital thievery thievery like these a tick people are paying to see does I have I ever a million of those f****** stores and that this is what kills me about a lot of this this rhetoric that's going on out there which I agree with 90% of it but if you if you agree with 100% of it like you and I are not supposed to be having stories like this we're supposed to be the ones doing it and it's just like you have been like is far the whole you know you're a white male heterosexual you know doors justfly open and people like hey what are you drink date like I'm not saying it I'm not obviously not bitching but I'm just saying that like like people will f*** you it's all about money big dog on Monday don't give a fuk and they and they all those people that do that s*** really yeah who made killer hit movies and never got paid because Hollywood's like luck you know we had this much had to go to happen I was thinking this is a production date I believe it did Toronto and you never travel the world because his manager had something going on with his visa and he's worried if he left he wouldn't be able to come back so that kind of like Elvis in iron wanted to do keep doing these movies Elvis on the road that is hilarious the best version of breaking down how corrupt the music businesses was by Courtney Love exactly how much you get paid versus how much money gets generated and where it all goes and how they f*** you how much you get paid versus how much money is generated and where it all goes and how they f*** you now it's always the way they've done it

Douglas in that fight you do you know the whole story behind his mom died and he was devastated and so he was always a really really talented guy that just didn't work hard enough but that fight he trained like a motherfuker you train like a real Champion by pretending to be a man out and I didn't want to face then when I think about it they're probably just focused on Bose. Maybe also is like doing are you dedicating it to his mom but he I am I am is this what you finding out from this the pandemic being locked up and having too much alone time like that you will understand my anger now I don't know how to fix it but I understand what is it what what is your anger it's feeling like I'm not going to be heard and things are going to go in a way I don't want him to be so the second isn't there's a suggestion different than mine I catastrophize in my head and I don't know actually I can't do that cuz I'm doing Jose Park maybe I could do that tomorrow I just hear the information and feel like I have no power and then I don't know what the f*** I have to like 2 minutes I'm sorry no one to blame but yourself like that and I apologize like an a****** I also in this and that will love my wife more you know gave me a son and it's just like it's one of those things where you going you don't know how to solve them that's what it is I I realize that I had issues that I thought I was past that's what what f****** up but see you feel like like all right so I've taken care of that now I can focus on this and it's like none of this is still in this pile you thought it was 6 feet high it's 12 feet high and it's it was way to fix it though of course it's not like it sounds like you know like the dr. Phil episode yeh made understand you f****** yellow paper whatever the f*** are you okay thanks Phil and like you just going to go do that it's it's like men need then you have to do the f****** work and it's so easy to just go back into your your it's a deep Groove worn into your personality and you're trying to get out of the rut and it's just easy to go back into it and just be on autopilot that when people are autopilot that's why people take psychedelics cuz it separates you so much from who you are you get a chance to look yourself it's one of the things that that comes out of it I should have done that when I was younger can't do it down like right now on this podcast I don't get to it I don't think that little bit of a professional sauteed mushrooms be good for you I know you're an influencer but yanking to win on the great people hopefully if I did the job then okay we'll go to take you somewhere it was freaking me out is cuz what I experienced as a kid straight across the board made me go to this mental place of like I don't care fuk it I don't care I don't need it I don't give a s*** and that cause that cause that's what caused everything to get walled off and that actually feeds into rehabbing injuries because of the big moment for me where I got this f****** console thing trying to put in my podcast studio and I was supposed to deliver it and bring it in there right so the day they're going to deliver it my wife went into labor so I went to the hospital and then they showed up and I didn't want them going out in my garage I got all my memorabilia and should I just didn't want people in there unless I was there so I said I just have to drop it off I thought I was going to be a box and it was already assembled it was f****** big right and it was also the weight load of it I was just I keep my arms in like this I was going to do this stupid german-irish f*** it and it was going to do was going to set me back once again like I had a big setback in February I had an acting gig and they say it was just a stupid little action thing is a wall put your hands on it pop over can you do that and my shoulder feels pretty good in the second one like that it feel like lightning go down my shoulder right back to the f****** tuna canning and all that s*** so I actually had a friend come over we were going to do it I said you know what to do you a f****** dinner or something I'm not doing this and I called up this guy that I knew where the construction company are you going to couple of strong young guys that can just move this thing in there and I just had them do it and in like an ex like something that I'm pushing through where it helps me as a comic and also helps me deal with highly emotional s*** cuz I can just shut off and just what I have to do which works like back in the day when you going to do Letterman which was f****** terrifying it's freezing cold and you just have to be like f*** this just it's just f****** people this is just a different shiny floor that's freaking me out and is an icon sitting at that desk had the tools to shut that up which is great for that moment but it's terrible for the rest of your f****** life like this s*** that's the guy just really just shittin me that I needed that I have not dealt with death of friends all of that s*** is just sitting in here and I think that's also like when people then go like I can you do this a lot of that is like you got all of this s*** that you're sitting on so you're sitting on all that you haven't addressed it so then it just it is the only wait for the steam to come out is like for you to snap or whatever so which is real not fair to the people around you to be honest with you so I don't know every time I'm using this really soothing care invoice that makes me face all of that s*** that I didn't get growing up which makes me angry at this person that's trying to help me yeah quarantine is not a bad thing if you're always fun to hang around with I don't have any issues with any you crazy listen my wife knows me hang out with her one time she'll tell you some f****** stories I'm sure yeah well the you that I get I like that helps you yeah you know the deal you don't know anybody till you live with them you know I will and I will not accept your compliments the guy that's running the meditation app that's annoying you do you know who's after using I don't put the guy on blast but yeah I do okay let me know when in a crate and you know I'm at my head down and we play no contact him because I had those really my fault that my head down this guy f****** knock me down on the other team he goes that you are right when I said that guy still f****** regret I was so mad at him that he was caring in that moment is wrong with me wow yeah because I don't want to pass this s*** on my kids that's what happens and it's just like when people like if people say my kids are not like me like I'm like good as weird but I do think that a lot if they're like nail comic made the comment you don't think it was going to hurt me and I was like yeah dude that's f****** music to my ears I don't want to be like me don't hurt you a joke hey happy destroying your mother's uterus day and I just remember laughing like a little more work than I have to or I can say I know but I mean I know what it is it was a Boston comic and he couldn't just say happy birthday because that would be gay so he has to go to so over correct that has to go to that level it's so f****** stupid is probably what guys die before women and it's all that stuff you know can't say Enjoy Sunset Joe you can't do it why can't you shut up I know you do so you got that so people could be like oh wow you know she want to hear that from you when they see your spinning heel kick they want to know that you enjoy Sunset cuz like I don't know if this guy's is angry as I am and could do all of that s*** what a my odds of getting out of here so you I want to see that out of a guy like you but you don't want to see it they want to see you enjoying the sunset I don't read I don't I don't know what it is to understand me but the rest of it looks like Fred Sanford yard I have a very weird thing I have an ally of my personality that works that I somehow turned into a living but the rest of it looks like Fred Sanford yard

DIY Russell Simmons he lives in like what are you living like Bali or Indonesia or something that he was doing an Instagram live and he's doing it cross-legged with like some crazy yogesh all over his knees and shittin like look like an ashram and he's like he's basically talking like a yogi in a notch with this guy was the head of Def Jam and he got like really yoga and now he lives in some country somewhere and f*** a does yoga is doing in time live talking to people like like a like a guru we're certain age if you don't I mean you know you kind of got to do all of that s*** so anyway enough of that that's why I went to the class and the position she started out with the with the twisting was happening too quickly so I kind of just went down the mat I was doing all the things teacher got like all freaked out by it busting out all these different office and I just started f****** laughing where I was just thinking like this is all supposed to be about listening to your body and you're literally you're like the oil man in here trying to control this is your own little f****** economy and just the fact that I f*** you're walking around like you got it all figured out you got 99% of people here all doing what the f*** you say and one guy goes down to his mat because his back is f***** up and you process it like I'm f****** with your Authority in a yoga class so with my broad brush I said f*** hot yoga advice and telling you how to live your life you got to learn to let go of things like for me and then tell some personal story and so but I got out of that like Jesus Christ we f****** move on here I didn't come yet to hear your first grade I used to go to school psychology was a great class it was a great class but the dude he had and was fuckingawesome I like I was after why I would go I was just psychologically breaking this guy down and something happened to him at a Gold's Gym I don't know what happened to him and he just was forever making fun of muscle heads and I was thinking no cuz I've had the hybrid thing going on like going to the gym and all that s*** and I liked the energy in a gym you know I liked it and the old school ones Forever shiting on it and then another thing that he would do with he would also somehow steer it toward like a subtle comment about love making in the way too and I was putting out like his vibe that he was good in bed at the same time funny this is like it was like a real life like Will Ferrell like like just really just like I know everything kind of what he wasn't as bad as that but it was just it was funny remember when he would walk around the class and you would have just people he'd always skip me and then it just some hot chick who is way more flexible than me so I couldn't hate on him for that but it was to get through the class cuz I'm five such f****** add I was just it was like a comedy show going on within it like you know like house and then I got a couple buddies out there you got to go on the gym what does he say he would talk about talk about coming in there and they had no flexibility and you know how everything was all like overdeveloped but you know he has some f*****-up or something and go sis works on your soul as like what machine in the gym you know they're so as machine and then it just became funny to me there's a specific type of guy that's like that I went to a yogi I want you to sing classes maybe wound up like she want to bang in this lady that was there cheap who's so disingenuous like you do these like yoga songs and like you are so gross like you do these like yoga songs and like you are so gross

you had the Cove it she had it she got over it she get you kicked it I got a prize more comics didn't get it the way we shaking hands and meeting people after shows yeah I somehow I got time I fed the kids where to get tested so I was like yeah they're fine now why I like people who had it now cuz they have the antibodies they think they can like walk on fire it's like they're the same as a brand new thing I don't know if you want to be testing you know I got a buddy of mine ended up getting it and then he was just like so now I think he feels like he's bulletproof so to find out on the highway like I've noticed it's just at some point I mean considering people are just kind of doing what they want to do and a lot of people were after 2 weeks everyone just sort of depending on where your ego was like to me a f****** something just going to just go back I think we're just going to go back then if you get it you get it and if you die you die if you don't you don't and then eventually they're going to get Doug and get something that'll slow it down or stop it or something like that do you like f****** Oprah when she attacked him meat industry I just saw a clip of this guy on Rogan Nightcore sad Indian research something who the guy was social like a lot of comic so I haven't had a problem so is something like painful in my life I think that that's what I do is I just go I don't care I don't give a f*** that's all I really learned a lot more about myself during this quiet time but not running around and going to airports and kind of sitting with myself and being like what I thought it was way further down the road working on myself than I was but I have a lot of f****** childhood issues left over I got a lot coming in and I was able to look all the way back where I was to where it where I am now and how I got here and these little f****** things that happened to me you know good things and bad that just sort of just knocked me down this road that I'm On It Was Written alone with alone time yeah well you know my wife was going through the third trimester you know I finally you don't get my daughter to bed get her to bed everything was good make sure all the doors were locked and then I was just sort of like you know all these years of doing stand-up I'm just up at that hour so I was just sort of you know sitting by myself like I'm worried about a second wave of the coronavirus been worried about them locking things down someone's going to step in and stop them from doing that next wave you guys got to be proactive you got to do something about people's immune system lockdown old people and sick people regular people do whatever the f*** they want you can't you can't just walk people's freedom down for something that killed a small fraction what you thought it was going to kill the whole thing is is his f****** creepy to have guys like mayor Garcetti be in charge of telling people whether or not they get to work but that's not what the governor supposed to be it's ek-kit 40 Comics to pull in the same direction so they have like an impossible they didn't they did there was still people f****** right the whole f****** times has been f****** assholes on my street walking around no masks you know knots quarantining like the people that come by the house as you see the f****** you know the same people that were going in and out of the house who are not part of the family still going in and out of the house quesadilla with no medical degree listening to you with no medical degree with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC all I do is I list I watch the news once every two weeks am I rollerblading and then it was that one f****** homophobic joke and then everybody acted like they never did it and then thrown into the ocean we all wore masks I didn't people in there but you don't have to buy you're so tough with your f****** open nose and throat tea joke and your 5:00 shadow this is a man ask why does it always become like that it's always like the man's worst a b**** things anything anything that seems like you're not taking chances right that's unless you are already wearing them you didn't at all the sudden people watch your thing and then they all pile of loot as bich we're in the mess that you were f****** doing it two weeks ago I was scared out of my mind in the beginning in the beginning like when the first when whenever they shutting down the beginning and people stockpiling food I was convinced I was like Jesus Christ in your basement could you feel like I'm breathing heavy my breath is something like my breath is coming short I did I did like psychosomatic about it I know you can't go now and get yourself I'm going to go and I'm going to drop off free food for those folks those fine protest with a major American city were seven blocks the people of took over it and I had no idea what you were talking about so

just really bad what I got one for you cuz you got me watching those f****** videos of animals eating other two principal I love bears but I can't watch them kill anything cuz they don't bohicas he f****** alligator on it he was like I'm going to kill you is he kind of did a little sweaty he gave me a job and then that thing just grabbed her music what the f*** I think he could have pulled that thing in and crushed a No-No a praying mantis is so f****** strong there's so much stronger than you would imagine them being cuz every little stick arms watch want to eat a hummingbird date all kinds of s*** they do everything that they get ahold of we're lucky that little praying mantises are amazing I f****** love those little things they're crazy what they can do to a bird or something much larger than the lizard was the most impressive cuz we going to eat him and that thing was totally immobilized it was like cuz they're their clamp is so it's like somebody got you in a d'arce the same thing someone gets like a like this grip and then cinches it up to a d'arce choke you like trapped in there that's what it was like he was there it is this is for f*** he thinks he's going to get him and then he's like b**** you ain't getting nothing he started his mouth to start slowly to one of them have you ever seen a praying mantis versus a murder Hornet and everybody's afraid of murder Hornets look at it again and slowly starts pulling them apart and at the end he's dead he starts eating his brain cool that skin apart and bite right through it but it seems so much bigger than him that's like you eating a cow that's like you holding a cow down you I wouldn't taking down the Buffalo was only two days ago I was in Yellowstone to link me to a 30 minute video of it just f****** up all sorts of animals video there are amazing animals men we can say we met about bison what did they due to that bear to get him to get on a f****** bicycle is that how you did it that guy's not dressed to get a f****** to be attacked by a bear no will the Bears got a muzzle on and it's a little as bear but bairstow is Luckenbach you man I got the Freddy Krueger claws I didn't I didn't I actually watched the whole training video of how it like at its where do you find what part of the internet are you want well I don't know I was I was trying to figure out why people look the f*** that guys get a giant grizzly bear on the back of his bike lane a hornet this person that's filming this is an idiot you think it can't break out of that seat belt and disc thinking about ripping a person apart like I used to be in the woods to f****** eat whatever I wanted the weird thing about bears if you train them when they're young they're like almost like dogs they become your buddy there was a weird day that it's riding b**** weird thing about bears if you train them when they're young they're like almost like dogs they become your buddy there was a weird day somebody's house that bear that it's riding b**** that guy f******

Define protest a major American city where seven blocks the people of took over it and I had no idea what you were talking about so at all I don't like making decisions with hysteria and I'd like to hysteria other parents I would just I would be looking but I wasn't listening cuz at 7 weeks already f***** in the head I'm already sucked in the head I don't need 24-hour news never who's that guy on Fox news always joke with me he's got great hair but horrible points like if it's points were as good as his hair which he was talking about black people with that f****** dead that Ike rooster at the end of chicken the end of his life looking guy like here's your liberal doing it all my relatives or conservatives like I mean look at him it's like this thing is cast like a show that he was with Henny and combs Burns right spine he wasn't strong argue or how you say he was there that he was to with the Washington generals and the other guy was the Globetrotters this is why I wish that there was a comedy club cuz it's already come and gone what I loved was when Colin Kaepernick when he was taking a knee right all the Liberals would just like well hey man it's just like his opinion man and man and then everybody on the right side racist piece of s*** I'm going to f****** cancel you they literally do this everybody believes in like freedom of speech as long as you're saying what they want to f****** here is basically and that's why I f****** hate both of those news channels if it makes my blood boil when I walk into a house with people I know if they're watching CNN or Fox like I can't get past the flecked when people watch like the Kardashians it's like why would you do that to your brain it is what it is like I mean it's very toxic is very toxic both sides and they they didn't ever see any good points for the other side has made every video on the internet starts after the thing happened and it's like you're always like it's like you're getting 8 episodes in and you like what the f*** it's like is enough sharks dying out there if you didn't see that this thing was specifically targeting human beings and he needed to do this right cuz that relate to the news I'm saying when you watch the news people don't like big they not filming what leads up to whatever f****** confrontation have us okay so you're getting a very skewed you don't know what happens what what what what what they're saying happens could be what happened or a bunch of other s*** I don't like I don't like I don't understand good version supposed to watch something you know like this is obviously obviously like that s*** Minneapolis was the most obvious shitt ever that guy's a murder and those other three guys sat around just watch them f****** do it when guys call it out I can't breathe in all of this s*** I'm calling out for his m************ sickening that guy's a monster had the audacity have a shocked look on his f****** face but like what I'm saying is that thing had all of this thanks there's so many cops. I'm just talkin about anything taking a little piece of somebody's stand-up routine or a politician says this or voted he voted no on this and what it is is the s*** that it's usually the s*** that was attached to it which is something I don't understand with politics like why can't you just vote on what you're voting on like should we have clean water yes we should and then like the ship that's attached to it all week so we can still f****** dump toxic and then when the guy goes to the woman goes to run it's like oh this this person voted against the Clean Water Act this is your tree hugger I'm Joe Blow and I approve of this message here here's a good version that remember the Covington School case that was the other kid had a Maga hat on and then Native American was beating the drums the kid was smiling looking at them and they took it pretending that this kid walked up this Native American beating the drums and was smile on his face and mocking him what really happened as his kids were on a field trip for high school they're selling Maga hats the kids are 16 they're being jerk off their bodies had to put on his having fun and very little supervision while they're there these Native Americans are beating their drums in this guy walks up to the kid and gets in the kids face and it's beating the drum Now CNN all these people went with his narrative these kids were mocking the kid just stood there smiling what does native american got his face but there is a kiss I think what way back there was a rule of sevens like no one person could own 7 or any combination of radio TV cuz you can really influence public opinion and that's why like I've watched and 12 years ago I went down the Federal Reserve you didn't want to talk to about the Federal Reserve New Year's we're at it just all of a sudden they stop being just sort of everything is always preferred it to some level and now it's just it's just you sort of watching like op-ed pieces so I don't watch anything and reads like you know autobiographies of football players in the 1950s issue a retraction I don't know what they did but they pay them I don't I don't know what they but that's why I don't I don't like either one of those channels because of that and then going on Facebook and writing in capital letters pieces of paper out of a little girl's hand like that they didn't even know Eleanor running up to her that Mother is yelling you stop touching her get your hands off talk to that guy and be like me asking this when you watch that you know Floyd video like what is it that you see because it's yelling at 7 to cancel him and make him lose his f****** job you just going to make the guy even more angry and he probably has grandkids that he's going to fill their head before he before he dies and it was a solution I think that should be part of it like buddy let's just sit down for a second you aren't a bicycle you want to burn some calories Galaxy into it by the way you're dressed okay America's great Parks right you come across these kids you know do you like kids have you ever attacked the kid before it did just putting a piece of paper up with a point of view like what what do you think led up to that level of a response because I have to be honest like we've all f****** snapped and Dunn she would like to I have an afterwards at me like what the fuc why did I argue that why did I say that water I do that and the only way to kind of prevent from you being a f****** a****** again you have to kind of walk back and look at it right so going at the guy which I totally understand because it was it was it was so bad it was almost comical borderline growling at them clench their fists down held on the paper my favorite part was the sound of his the bottom of his shoes that clip into the pedals only 8 years older than me so he graduate high school like 8 years before me so is this guy is almost part of my generation like what experiences did he have that he looks at this whole thing like you know I mean it's like you have to get those guys off of the force that's what I think so I just don't understand like that was what they were putting up that was specific to the Minneapolis case so my thing is as a human being how could you have issue with somebody trying to put something mean about honoring that guy or something positive about that like I bets what I was confused I don't know what you put up I'm not sure what you put up those definitely about the George Floyd protest you know maybe but I really couldn't get over the sun almost them movie trailer for a horror film grabbing the paper while woman screaming at him to not touch her touch her and I mean imagine yeah I mean it's only one response is a father murder murder know what do you like meme I want him to remember that he did it. stop white people wear those shoes clip-in I know they do but I'm like what is the advantage of that is there an advantage when you're coming up this way you can you can still pull with your legs so you're getting more of an efficient ocean liquid I think that's before but that's before he grabs her Jamie yeah back it up from the beginning cuz this issue with your Martial Art background you got to be impressed with the way he's using his bike there no he's sort of like trying to be a little herd of Maryland to see right there that's where it was caught on video early attack in teenager posting Flyers is runs up there is yelling at I mean look at these tiring oh my God look at her. I don't know if that's a woman or her friend but that girl's got balls or ovaries I like there's a little skip Step 2 like a cornerback whatever happened to that guy that promoted my movie right there I'll be in the news for the big old f****** orange jumpsuit on if that was happening to my daughter a real problem the biggest problem would be what do I use the time is going to come out of this because the fact is so many white people are also approach and getting involved in it and then somebody cops with vocal saying you know they shouldn't do that so I think something good is going to come out of this I just want to be more and I also hope that as a piggyback thing to then do some other which will then escalate will make people who want things to stay the same they'll be able to shift focus of like you know like the protesters in the rider 50000 f****** people filled the streets and no crime The Miz or very little nothing that heard of it was just mostly people chanting and holding signs I look promising like they did the thing that disturbs me is this idea that they should defend the police you can't get rid of police what you need to do is spend more money and train them better and I have higher standards and do it the way you do the military or it's very difficult to get in and you weed people out there a week like that guy was a p**** The Colony on that guy's neck like that because a monster there's no way that guy she's ever been a cop just had to know yeah that's like Uber or something like that makes your things together and they they they argued about the way that cop was treating the customers they work together at security at the same club and that cop was a f****** call two people at the club and they argue about it so they had a personal issue and there's some people that want it to be elevated the first-degree murder because of that that he did it on purpose that he knew he knew that guy that George Floyd was always town that guy he's a f****** a****** the way he treats customers cuz he would makes people and s*** that kind of stuff pepper spray folks he just was the first guy to you violence right away 2006 my friend Joe Schilling the kickboxer talking about him again but his f****** page is the most disturbing page right now because all he's done over the last 5-6 days post videos of police brutality then it's police brutality on black women white women white old men black old men young guys or is this just police brutality over and over and over and over there's a problem of racism in this country for sure there's also a real problem with people that have the kind of power the cops have that are weak people that are that are sociopaths and that's that's as much of a problem is any of this yet you tap the racism on to it and got a horrible situation but those people are psychopaths there are no monsters that guy cuz he knows guys to put together Kruse guys too I know it's like rock concerts and stuff and he said you didn't want to get guys that wanted to fight you didn't want to have those guys cuz those guys will be a f****** headache and every night there was going to be something and it was going to be lawsuits like what what you what he was saying you ultimately wanted was nothing to happen kitchen stuff and you said you didn't want to get guys that wanted to fight you didn't want to have those guys cuz those guys will be a f****** headache and every night there was going to be something and it was going to be lawsuits like what what you what he was saying you ultimately wanted was nothing to happen

I remember cuz I was joking with the memorable long time ago the grill 93 this old dick Dougherty room I remember that joint so two guys were about ready to go out at the club in the bouncer gets him outside okay and this guy is trying to say is point of view and it put his hand on shoulder what the fuk you just Twisted the guy out then took him out and I can get over the f*** I was with we will f****** dying laughing it just became a catchphrase between us so he would, hey Bill you what you working this weekend get it is eyebrow level I have to come back with something else it was another II he said that first of all don't touch me I did like the 3 slide step down cuz I learned that young watching fights you know you don't want to have a really good seat cuz it's like a tornado I like Smoky bars and since we went in there and everybody was hammered I was hammered drinking like f****** haffenreffer smooth the green death right so some like one of those fans fighting which is always great cuz like the people that are a row up or just throwing down and it was the Boston Garden there was nowhere to go and I remember this big cock pounding down the stairs he literally had a handful of this guy's neck it was like his whole neck and his jugular in the sky how to watch your fight which you watch a fight and you're looking at your exits cuz like I said it's like you don't know where it's going to f****** go and I learned that lesson so when I saw that guy say that I was just like okay but some other people settle in in front of me I just I knew I I mean I just know I was like this is not my thing I can't slip a punch I am slowish it think I'll be the funny guy is weird things go sideways like that feeling in the air when it whenever chaos breaks out like that is a real melee is a feeling in the air it's like you feel it not this is really dangerous Boston for about seven years I was gone for seven years before I finally walked into a bar and just felt the normal energy a but I think the city's changed a lot but like that sort of that tail end of the the craziness I walked into a bar and you could just feel it it's like somebody's going to get stuck at 90 minutes away Mike Blythe he's working the ratskeller he was a bouncer he would go where he would wrap his hands could wrap his hands on his way to work I know a guy I knew a guy was a bouncer and he used to bring a mouthpiece Skybar equipment and I remember one time he got he got suckered he knows he'll be fighting I pick him up some dumb reason he sat down on the stairs in the guy was standing above them and one of his friends jumped down and just punched him and I saw the mouthpiece was like f****** Buster Douglas Tyson along with extreme and names and what happened was we were in an off-campus apartment and tell the story I'm going to tell the quick version two of my buddies left to go upstairs first floor and then they went upstairs and like 20 minutes they came back when we buddies shoulders with separated the other guy fat lip and have flat top gun made his big f****** gash coming right down here and blood coming down his face and we will like what the f*** have what the f*** happened we just started beating on us so this whole mob to go fight the party right and I'm going to stay big fucken hit I'm going to get knocked out here but I have to go visit my friend so we f****** go up there and we hear the party so my buddy the mouthpiece guy like the most innocent boy ever knocks on the door because hey sexier party going on in there right the f****** door opens up just like everybody's just throwing us to jumping over my back and the smoke f****** clears and all settled and we look at the party and there's like six or seven guys six or seven girls in this like a board game it's tipped over and we had gone to the wrong party swear to God I know it sounds like a joke the real party where they got hit was upstairs and I don't know I don't know what happened but they they were actually rich kids and they sued my friends were going and whatever the dumb s*** they did but we all went into the wrong party and they were in there having like a couples thing and they will plan like f****** Monopoly or something and all the sudden there was a knock on the door and then everybody just came f****** running in real bra that I ever saw was then I was like 17 then was a senior in high school and it was a rich kid that moved into the neighborhood you want to make friends so he put on this crazy party he just invited everybody so Kayla from all kinds of different high schools and the right place at the right time when I saw pop off a people are already robbed in this guy I saw people taking stuff out of bedrooms running down the stairs it was real sketchy cuz it was way too many people, but then this girl I still to this day don't remember what she did she either slap is kind of face or she threw a drink in his face I don't remember I think she slapped them but I would have what I remember is he Uncorked a perfect right hand on her he know how to punch I remember thinking why was guys trained because he pretty sure she slapped him but he went like this I mean it was a perfect right hand hit her right in the face her head goes back is guy behind her catches her she's totally unconscious and then and it would do is pile I didn't I didn't hit anybody and nobody hit me I f****** was like a movie like brawling and Jimmy and where is everybody we grabbed our friends and got in the car and drove off we were laughing our asses off but it was like when we left the cops are just starting to rot vs. piles and perfect beating the s*** out of each other on the lawn separated shoulder in that fight with popped it back in and he went back up through a punch with the same arm and missed it came out again mmm flopping on the ground like a fish out of water get its revenge but you do you made it part of his body like a karate movie like when people talk about you know you're a funny comedian and plow about the characters that I grew up with and what I loved about what they did and what they said was they weren't trying to be funny like he was dead serious the three of pressed in in the f****** the the pickup truck was this guy's dad's truck and he had the flat top so he's got dried blood on his forehead and we're just driving home and nobody saying anyting and the dude in the middle has got these sunglasses on and he's just sitting there like this and then all of a sudden out of nowhere he just f****** he goes I was looking at this bug he goes I thought it was on the windshield because it turned out it was on the inside of my glasses I don't know if that was true but there's only ever reenact how much he flipped like how much you would freak out on acid if you thought a bug was over there but then your mind told you that it was on the inside of your f****** glasses and I just remember all three of us just crying laughing driving home at this is just the whole f****** situation that was like that was a like every weekend of my life for like probably like two-and-a-half 3 years every single f****** weekend we used to going to this there was a club in the bar in Chelsea with outboard and they would like selling f****** blow out of there so they didn't give a f*** if you look like you was 12 years old like I was when I go to order my my vodka collins was looking like I wasn't of age like 19 or 20 probably 20 and I would go in there and I just remember one time standing outside that bar and there was just f****** do to look like Rob Halford God of his f****** mind standing in front of his motorcycle and he was telling the story about riding his bike and it's in this drug thing he got stuck he just kept saying I go around the Apex I never did understand what was going on I'm going to leave it at that I don't understand what's going on but all I know is I just seem to be the guy that wanted to go home first f****** legs guys in then I was like what the f*** in Ocean my dicks already out I'm taking a piss and they open like the thing hasn't had a latch opened up and they had like they was doing blow and I was taking a piss it was a lot there was a lot I don't know why because a lot of like like easy targets really got hit and I was beyond an easy time somehow I just never let you know I never added that yeah I did I did cuz I would have got really I was not as tough as my friends with my friends were f****** lunatics you know but I would like some f****** crazy your friends that grew up in other places that they they were they didn't have the same amount of fight stories I think Boston is a particularly fi'ty Place Long Island tri-state area it's all sorted this same Savages Savage children of immigrants fight news on PCP got bit his finger off and he had his toe removed and replaced his finger with a teller Toyota's so that he can still so his his when you shake his hand he would always give you one of these he was like do you know my run 6th grader is just insane sixth-grader I think I'm going to be here but yeah there was a lot of the sports scene back in Boston is just was insane

history of censorship but it never works right never works it always drives people to Walter let you know so that's doesn't matter people are stupid just because you say you know it and we do know it tell me people are going to think that way and then operate that way that requires restraint and it requires foresight it requires some sort of an objective understanding of history in the UK in an atom the leader that part that wasn't aware they were winning millions of votes right because I would love people with the same franchise to clean working cause diarrhea and I would definitely some kind of Nick Griffin went onto a main political discussion programs Question Time BBC One Primetime and he was humiliated and as soon as that happened to being paper over within a matter of months it exposed to those normal people the Ludacris and upset nature of his and that I think is a really hot and I did actually a few weeks if you hear more from these people they have self discrediting right but if you if you burn them you almost given the kind of glama a kind of martyrdom state is that they don't deserve in the end and that attracts a lot of people to their worldview that's there's definitely something to be said for that yeah it's definitely something beside me like I'm not in favor of banning these people yeah to espouse hate speech everywhere they go and to be able to indoctrinate people's Wells like I don't know what the actual do trust while I do not trust this state to decide what constitutes hate speech I don't believe that I mean in the UK they proven that they don't capable of doing things Canada right okay so I'm for abolishing the idea of hate speech that's right we have a thing where the police will investigate you phone on crime if it's defensive right on crime so there's a website the government website and hate crime has a paragraph on non-crime hate incidents okay and what they specifically say is if you've heard something offensive to you and you believe that the person said something because of you you were one of the protected characteristics because of race gender sexuality whatever then you report template logistic as a hate crime crime beside and he retweeted a poem that was the safe to be transphobic and people were upset about if I didn't write the poem you just retweet the time the police investigated his retweet and he said to them have I broken the law they said this isn't a crime this is a non-crime hate incident and the actual phrase the police officer used I'm not joking was we have to check your thinking right about Sinister and then when the police we will replace with Challenge on this but in the media it turns out this is standard practice in the place that isn't just one road police officer going to bed mad this is standard practice commission guidelines in the College of policing LS who's qualified to check your thinking and you should be it's crazy to be difficult it should be able to tell you that you can't retweet some you agree with right and we have we have people in our country who have been you know how many people are arrested in the UK how many people do you think are arrested every year in the UK for offencive comments I posted online what would you guess just as it including all the many thousands of known Cripe known crime highest incidence dialogues 3000 people arrested and what is it from some website put it on his own Facebook page three months in prison for that I don't know what good is laughing for 3 months is eating terrible food serving worth it right now he's a felon record the famous one in the UK adorable the dog was that he might hate train the dog to jump about enthusiastically what ever heard the phrase gas the Jews any trained it do little Nazi salute whenever hugsy Kyle right now those phrases out of that contact unpleasant you can see why someone would be offended by that right but the joke was at this cute little doggie what is doing quite busy, but now look I accept that people can be a Note 3 video before you chew took it down you know and a 3-minute one complaint no one complained the police actually went to the Scottish Council of Jewish communities and said do you find this offensive and understandably they said yes now we can prosecute this guy two-year investigation found guilty in a court of law ultimately find 800 pounds have a criminal record for whatever you think about the right it is clearly meant to be funny any remote connection to have someone who's been prosecuted because the judge believes that he knows what secretly going up with his secret intention is Sunday the actual phrasing of the Lord under which he was prosecuted is that it is being grossly offensive which is a very subjective ideas view 3 million different views no complaints no complaint right I defended him at the time and then it was in the Illuminati apologize cuz they sent him 351 is of every tweet you ever like to have the word f****** it wow he said I had to get a background check for my job and it turns out the report has a 300-plus page PDF of every single tweet I've ever liked liked with the word f****** it enjoy your dystopian BS of all 351 pages of it obviously the dystopia cares about wasting paper so it looks like they use this to justify not giving in the job without the giant bottle of peppermint vodka and mom running after him like no no no no no no no only said flag type bad flag reason alcohol post type like so they they changed what he right he's he's making a joke about a toddler they sell running across Trader Joe's with giant bottle of peppermint vodka that it did taken from its mom in the mom wasn't so they flagged it because the there was alcohol at the baby had a bottle of alkyl there's nothing offensive about that whatsoever back to hurt the company in anyway and mess with their bottom line mean that is crazy even liking a tweet in all caps big dick energy I've ever seen in a video I don't know what that is the guy that like called his dad when he wants to be a millionaire right okay so he called his dad tell Devin he's going to win because he knew who is going to win that look at this flag reason language bigotry sexism what's the biggest tree in the sex is in the I don't understand it I don't see any bigotry or bigotry and protect sexism that he's a man and he's showing big dick energy cuz he's big dick energy is an expression and its expression for someone who is super confident and the idea that you you say well with me big dick that's the joke about the internet meme big dick energy is an internet meme and that this is flag type bad language big as you sexist right here's the best part post type liked he just liked it like you saw is like a big dick energy move it's a new American thing over the last four years or so f r a n c e kmle Frank Franck Ma France on Twitter Bruce Bruce Almighty hilarious agree with everything I say in that for you were big and then I make you just under my jaw hopefully it's gross but liking tweets I mean this is a company that's doing this so there's a company do they hired that's willing to do this end the company labeled it bigotry so is the company woke is this the company famo the smartest way to screen toxic workplace Behavior software okay so it's software that's part of the problem to help identify problematic Behavior among potential hires and current employees by analyzing publicly available online information out boy would I have a hard time getting a job. Just looked up said that another company used this company to get that information so I can background check yeah it says Town screening software so it's basically they just scan you to make sure that you pass our purity test which no one will no one with any sense of humor I mean if that guy the big dick energy guide that get you flagged you're a bad person because you thought that that guy who knew who's going to win $1000000 to call his dad that's funny is that anyone there is no way that is anyone on the planet who couldn't be canceled if you had unlimited access to their private know what texture who's going to win $1000000 to call his dad that's funny is that anyone I there is no way that is anyone on the planet who couldn't be canceled if you had unlimited access to their private no way text

it's about that too cuz you brought up Ostrom what are your Bostrom relies on me he was relying on theories and terms that like mathematical theories of probability to to say that he thinks it's more likely that were in a simulation are these three categories that you describe two possible outcomes I think the first one is we destroy ourselves before we ever create a simulation the second one is that we would lose interest in creating a simulation some point in the third one is we living in a simulation clear that is just three by thing is going to be a huge amount of possibilities of the kind of simulation like to me I keep asking you know if that's the alarm musk about the simulation what she said of the Twitter Internet troll I mean and a brilliant engineer and designer in one it's like a it's like a Quantum state that you can't quite figure out what it What was the coupling cuz I don't know if you strolling but I'm the same way I love acting people at the simulation even though I get a little bit of hate from the scientific Community but literally that because it's not a people think Voodoo don't know how to test like why you talking about this why do you sit down with Elon Musk to talk about the simulation or when you're sitting with a world expert in particular aspects of Rockets or the body like I'm an expert but I know a few things about why don't you talk to him about that everyday details of science you can ask big questions about like the nature of our reality and I I like to think of it is like what how do we build a simulation like what would be a compelling enough virtual reality game that you will not stay there for all your your whole life that's a first step there that's useful to think about like what is our reality what what aspects of the most interesting for us humans to be able to perceive with our limited perception cognitive abilities open and interact with and then the bigger question then is like how do you build a large-scale simulation that would be able to create a virtual reality game they think is a possible future we're already creating virtual world for ourselves on Twitter and something else and so on I really believe that virtual reality will we will enter will spend more and more of our lives in the next 5200 years in Virtual Worlds and the simulation hypothesis is Russians part of that I think I think there's that question of what's outside summations really interesting that's the other way of because like what created us what started the whole thing it's the modern version of asking what what is God what does God look like what you know it's it's asking what is the programmer look like I think that's a fascinating question but arguing with that were already living I think you got stuck in that little point I think it's not that it's a bit of a language barrier to there's a technical I think so he's been fighting battles disagree with him when they are about language in about terms and so on but I think it's very possible that we we live in live in a simulation I think one of the constructs of the physics theoretical physics with many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics and Sean's talk to you about the reveal some interesting set of fundamental building blocks of our reality there's something I don't think people talk to you about which is like the coolest thing to me the most amazing thing that nobody can explain yet I things called cellular automata and there's a guy mathematician of John Conway who came up in the 70s was a thing called Game of Life and cellular automata are these two dimensional one-dimensional but game of us two dimensional grid where every single little cell is really dumb and it behaves based on the cells next to it and it's born when there's a fuse when there's like a sir buy three cells alive next to it and it dies otherwise since I got simple rule for birth and death and all it knows it's it's nearby surrounding and its own life and if you take that system with a really dumb Rule and expanded in size arbitrate complexity emerges you can have touring machines so you can simulate perfect computers with that system and it can grow and all these behaviors grow if you watch your people Google like a game of life and you can watch this extremely dumb simple system just grow arbitrary complexities and will you start to realize that from such incredibly simple building blocks that don't know anything about the bigger world around them you can build our entire universe can build the kind of complexities we see unless it's like we think like God is like designing little aspect of whatever of our world a simulation hypothesis with the simulation is designed by hand like I'm going to crack these things will you realize is all you can all you need to do is just set some initial conditions set some really basic rules and allow the system to grow as long as you can grow arbitrarily just crazy stuff amazing stuff can happen from like from Simplicity complexity can emerge and that it for a queef you study this a little bit closer watching people to watch a game of Life on YouTube and think about what it's showing like for 10 minutes it will blow your mind the fact that from Simplicity arbitrary complexity Beauty can emerge is like incredible so for the simulation the creator of the simulation is probably some thirteen-year-old there living in like in his mom's basement is probably just have some rules in this video game and press play and then temperature in complexity can emerge have a Joe Rogan you can have an Elon Musk all the technologies that we've developed and probably millions of other alien species that are living throughout our universe is much easier to create that we might think and but there's a lot of variability in the kinds of simulations will create like I think the simulation lots of things like in others like 1:15 is there going to be a lot of varieties is that there's a lot of possible different rule says there's about a lot of different physical mediums in which dissimulation be created and can be completely virtual world the role of Consciousness whether you make most people conscious or not when they're most of them are philosophical zombies are there just like Nom Nom player characters and it's just you or you have or is your mind stimulated like the role of suffering so Consciousness brings with it this idea of of basically they know subjective experience it was subjective experience comes the idea of pain and fear and so on the thing again my Russian romanticisation of it but I think fear of death is essential scarcities essential for from UT for life I could be less individualistic less less Consciousness can be present in different kinds of form so I see there's a lot more options than those three that he'll highlights and we can destroy ourselves in a lot of interesting ways entire civilizations from AI to nuclear weapons to biological doll kinds of weapons it's almost like whether it's a simulation or not is almost irrelevant the complexity of the existence all of the various pushes and pulls that keep everything together there they're almost operating like some grand plan whether they like it or not whether it whether or not a grand plan exists all these different things are happening and everything is moving in a very specific direction right it's moving towards for the complexity like I was having a conversation with a friend of mine last night where we were talking about and we were like you know like when they're ever going to look at a phone and say I think we're good we don't have to the camera works great still signals great and call people you can text people it's just stopped innovating right here and we're both laughing like it's never going to happen but even though we admit I'll give you have an iPhone 11 or a pixel for that we have need anything better like in terms of the way our car it works you get so much done on these things you can Bank on them is it okay if I'm drinking all your Waters by the way we have a lot of water please existence itself whether or not there's a design to it it seems to operate in a matter that would indicate there's a designed the design doesn't have to be real doesn't have to be a simulation it doesn't have to be a grand plan but it moves in this the same way as if it's a grand plan it's weird it's hard to put into words but there's a different force and momentum like The evolutionary process the fact of life was created the fact that there's kind of a progress and also like I just like with the Native Americans the fact that suffering seems to be a constant story that was weaving in like we constantly progress but we seems to be I creating the other and torturing seems to be conscious suffering in Warren so on through this growth process and that seems to be the death is a huge part of that and conflict conflict even social conflict exists it's almost like the world creates a space for them and people find a way to fill that space the death is a huge part of that and then conflict conflict even social conflict like we're talking about social justice Warriors and that type of thing I think they almost have to exist it's almost like the world creates a space for them and people find a way to fill that space

I don't know I haven't been watching TV like the news you just brought up three things you see it's going on in Seattle with the f****** FCC whatever he says I don't know what I don't know what is what is Tifa antifa and there they wear masks and the carry sticks and helmets and shed and they intimidate people this is occupied by the people Seattle and you can't use money in that police freeze out you want to fight motherfuker Niger yeah I want to fight the cops will let you fight because it's some wild west mining s*** from like the f****** 1600 in Seattle and cops standing around watching willing to do it and they they they know the risk you know if you get hit you going to fall and crack your head on the back of the curb there that mean drunk though they don't know the risks it was one of them this is this kid I think his last name is photo or I think Carlos photo or he's a MMA fighter and he would dress up like a superhero wouldn't remember his name anyway he actually knew how to fight and he was dressed like a superhero so it's kind of baiting people to f*** with him and he's walking on the street and these guys f*** with them and they Larry's they decide to go out and then you know he's bouncing around like a real Pro Fighters. Swimming leg kicks in on this guy you see this guy's face like oh my god what the f****** for it just some drunk assholes and some dude ass like a superhero walking around dressed like a superhero I be like that guys out of his f****** mind and I will give him a wide berth hoping he was on his way to his place of solitude whatever the plan so Seattle is run by a warlord someone f****** dude is apparently according to my friends run it was a seal is running this entire 7 block or 6 block area Seattle to spray paint all the windows in this intended mean he's going to run out of men they have guns okay that's the problem the problem is they're openly carrying rifles inside the six I know but they need to eat okay and then no supplies are going to get in that seven blocks they're just going to wait them out or they going to come in with Superior Firepower and it's not going to end well drill how many are there how many of them are there that's a good number of Vegas number we likes what did you say they open the door for them they gave them City Hall so this is City Hall they're walking into right now when they get in they don't know what to do the Laugh Factory Long Beach Got Loaded last night how God I can't imagine Meat Puppets they took country mortgage mannequins you know I love that place I love performing there but some of the Jamie's Decor I love my my favorite things to do in this business has she don't Jamie Masada he knows I love him

you know I didn't know about stand-up comedy when I was growing up never heard of it really TV and then it seems like just completely different genres in this new art form is like a heart music for the first time and I was like holy s*** is rock and roll music and there's you know hip-hop so it was so interesting because I remember I really gravitated towards Comic View that was so interesting because it wasn't just jokes or me trying to learn English it was me also try like learning about culture how each race saw each other blah blah even though their stereotypes now that they're joking about but it was cool where is I watch a comedy central premium blend then really laugh I don't know why it like so I always gravitated to its wasn't me, d'you know and they're having more fun because of the beat that don't care about the beat and only listen to the lyrics I was more like the beat guy you know and I just love that side performance and only later on when I got into comedy I was like oh wow everyone that's doing that premium blend stuff maybe maybe not my cup of tea but it made me laugh like as an adult because I understood how hard that was in the movie theater I couldn't believe how funny was like I'd seen all these funny movies to watch this guy just talkin on stage I was fascinated he's one of those guys when he wants you like I can do that cuz he's just talkin he just did you write this insane Talent ways you can get introduced to Comedy it since I've loved like when people like when the seed get planted in people's heads but when did you know that you were going to try to do this and I hear like grey stories like the Richard Pryor story or like it's just me and my brother used to sneak in the movie theater watch Eddie Murphy live after you had a heart attack I promise I'll be a comedian right like you don't go in the Arts when you're Asian that's not a real job in so because your family would discourage it so nobody in my family did it in the Arts like anybody that made money was in finance whatever real Jobs quote on quote you know so I was just I was about to graduate college with a economics degree and I hated the internship I had it financed and s*** and I just saw my life flash funny I'm like oh my God for the next 40 years behind this desk f****** mutual funds who cares you know so I just tried I like a quarter life crisis right when I was about to graduate doesn't have to do something to meet new friends to meet girls to whatever so night I took jiu-jitsu classes for like two months horrible I was I was the smallest guy in the week is going to class c or t me up with the girls and they were twist me up like a pretzel it was very discouraging two months if that and then I tried like different things like boxing classes gyms whatever you know and then I I say the story I wrote this book and then and I send the book like typing in local open mics in your Google search It's one step away from typing and what's the best way to kill myself that I needed open mics went to the haha paid $5 you have to pay stop 5-minute station. Haha so five other Comics can not laugh at you it was that still felt better than me sitting at home making no friends cuz I saw a camaraderie I was like if I'm good I can make some friends like here in the open mic and there's a new world out there out for me so soon after I quit that Finance you know internship very promising internship and I just try to do stand-up you know I did every work the door I at the comedy Palace in San Diego this Greek restaurant I'll turn into Comedy Club at night I work the door folded envelopes did everything they let me sleep that I would have slept that answer the phones and everything I just drove into it not just for the love of common Arts but for the love of this new life is a new fraternity that I found you know that's awesome so a lot of it it was an improvement on my life that was that interested me in in stand up and threw stand up I got laid for the first time and I kind of had a crisis were okay I'm doing fine you don't have a lot of friends now I have you know I go on dates like it's fine like my life is fine and I started making money on Silicon Valley you know so I stopped doing stand-up I was like that I don't really need this you know but but then like I wasn't getting depressed either so it was a really good feeling cuz it wasn't a crutch it wasn't an addiction I need to feed and then eventually I did stand-up finally I think for the love of it I was like you know what I do miss this I'm going to go do it on my own terms not just because I'm trying to make friends and trying to pull girls I'm doing it because I enjoy the process of it so let's f****** do it and that's the recent I guess resurgent of energy how much time did you take off outside from stand up on and off like a year or two when I was a couple Seasons during Silicon Valley I would do stand-up maybe at Max I was just go down to Comedy magic club once every two months just so I can know talk some friends or something I kind of got pissed I was cuz everybody that was coming up to me in the streets at Eugene Yang Silicon Valley whatever and there's some YouTube clips you watching me doing stand-up you know and let me prove to the world I'm not just like a Vine guy or act of trying to do stand-up I am an actor who used to be a stand-up and that is my f****** phone I have a stand-up I start as a stand-up I think I'm a better stand-up that I am an actor you know it's so let me prove to the world I'm not just like a Vine guy or active trying to do stand-up I am an actor who used to be a stand-up and that is my f****** Forte

how does it feel to be a martial arts expert somebody that can fight like do you feel more confident going outside to you like you know cuz I I'm always looking around like a look at it make sure I got doesn't f****** Ivy candy until they kill me like you know whatever there's always danger and being a person especially around bad people beat up man that couldn't defend themselves and horrible to watch it's sad many videos online of people just getting beat up by somebody yeah cuz they don't know how to fight and you see some person really doesn't even know how to fight they're beating the f*** out of someone hurting really bad hurt them but it doesn't ever get to that point I don't have you have you gotten in fights lately I'm not a fighter I mean I know how to do it but I'm a nice person but just knowing that having a self-confidence and they come from horrible backgrounds or abused by their parents family and they're a mess and they they walk amongst us free until they commit crimes they get locked in jail so if somebody wants to fight me when I do I just run bro you got to see it, seeing it coming a real that's a real important part of it like seeing coming right away seems sketchy people and no one got to have that spidey sense get the f*** out of there but it's exciting to be around Danger Cheerios and be around weird people it's like when things are a little bit little sketchy little CD people enjoy that is like it's like what do you what would you rather have would you rather have everything be f****** boring and vanilla and just write everything is Hermosa Beach or you know every now and then you want something to be just a little bit really gravitate to that I think feels like we like a little danger yeah like what you're doing when you're doing stand-up is a kind of exposing these truths that everybody kind of knows about but doesn't talk about and if reason it away like yeah yes yes like there's like their thoughts there there for sure it's a weird job man and everybody does a different right to get the Hedge bergey doesn't Mitch does it did it one way you do it a different way Joey Diaz as different way everyone's got a different way of doing it but it's all ultimately you're trying to find those those perspectives the different way everyone's got a different way of doing it but it's altimate Lee you're trying to find those points to get find that those perspectives find the use those comedy weapons to pop through on these people breaking their mind and get those sparks flying

your family give you a hard time about wanting to stand up quite the story there a feel-good story let me preface with that so my dad wasn't Finance you hook me up with that Finance job and when I was like I don't know I just don't want to do this is like what do you have another job give the stand-up thing a try and this is like a year or two in August I was making any money so he was very disappointed he was hoping it was just a phase you know he doesn't stand-up was old Chinese guy who just like a talk show that you just keeps calling a talk show still till today talk show just never got it so I was finishing my last year School in San Diego I got you some random jobs I worked at the used car lot during the day I worked at the comedy Palace collecting tickets and trade for like stage time in the evening after that I'll go put another shift as a DJ at a strip club just so I was like trying different things you know I didn't want to lock myself into something and then eventually the acting starting to do a little better you know my first job was Two Broke Girls at two lines you know and I'm so proud proud of myself you know watch CBS tonight you know I'm going to be on there and stop CVS so he was just really not downright and then eventually when I got on Silicon Valley the old man understands what a contract this is serious regular job on HBO he's acting like he got it so he was finally happy I was financially secure so instead of ever giving it up and say like hate Jimmy good job I'm proud of you maybe I was wrong good for you you know what he said he was like it's so easy you can do it I can probably do it becoming an actor I was like okay dad you know what if you think it's so easy but I was like that if you think it's so easy I was with a very small agency at the same time I'm like you know what I'm going to sign you up with her see if she needs an older Asian guy cuz there's not a lot of guys out there competing so she signed him and then good good good now you got to go to auditions and understand how f****** hard my life is all the nerves I got to deal with play completely backfired because he went to those auditions and killed it look like his first six out of ten jobs which is like an unheard-of ratio you know me like you be lucky to book like 5% of jobs but he was killing it non-union gigs even got on the show I talked about this a little bit of my stand-up he even taught he even got on the show that shot in San Francisco is a Chinese show with thought it was no big deal Kmart the f****** Modern Family of China and then my aunt from Shanghai will call the house. Richard you such a good actor your son wasn't take a nap to you I was like what the fuc but now I've accepted it that's who he is I'm happy that me and my dad's in the same business in a way that's crazy and it's a fun story to tell people right so I was jokingly saying that story to John Malkovich Depends for its on space force everybody gets a kick out of this little story episode 9 Sports comes around we're doing the table read and it's a China vs. America thing in this episode and they needed a couple older Chinese scientists that are authentic Mandarin speaking Chinese people after the table regret Daniels to showrunner he's at Jimmy's dad have you thought about you meet that I didn't have thick enough skin to volunteer my dad and then that night I went home I cut together and acting reel for my dad and I sent it to Greg all I said was that Greg maybe give the old man a chance he's got a good look I think he fits this older scientist and China just let me come in and audition but I guess Greg was so impressed with the tape he just hired him wow episode 9 of spaceforce my dad is in it great he comes in no fear and a scene is Toto with your mouth wow and how long you been acting I mean two years if that never take a note classes so crazy on Skype last seen you know I was like that don't make me look that don't f*** this up make sure you remember your lines right and then he he was he was practicing screengrab me record me so I can see my own performance I hate to watch myself so I recorded him I sent him that tape and then he looked at it he was like wow I'm really good look at me like I'm like listening and also the fact that he never thought to be an actor so there's no fear yeah I was nervous as hell my first they were John Malkovich and Steve Carell my dad came in with just chilling yeah totally backfire Father and Son story and it's so funny that he saw you doing his like I could do that Jay Chou put your name in the Hat about that or something crushing punchlines bang bang bang I want to say I will be happy for him but there's probably a part of me that site you guys but he's always been the one in the family though he's always a ball buster and everything so they kind of came natural has he written stand-up does he have any ideas of stuff you would talk about you know what I should have them write this set to see what the materials would be hell I don't know fucken put in 10 years do you can't just go do a goddamn theater open for me one day when my next special that'll be fine with the lack of respect for the Arts or is it over confident in his own ability overconfident if you pulled it off and so much about acting is it is confidence not being shaken mean yourself it's correct he's so relaxed I video I got to find on my phone and show you so it's in the hallway between set-ups me and malkovich's running lines and I'm nervous but you worked hard like at his level you still works hard he's amazing with running lights you know in between takes the camera pans pans a bunch of empty chairs and the pants to my dad and I act mature fell asleep just dead asleep so relax Malcolm it's hilarious no nerves wow my parents and just to kind of finally get their approval and then he gets it he gives it up he was very emotional you don't have to Crazy Rich Asians and all that but his his goal is not to celebrate with a son there his goal is to get selfies and the after party the table and then Mark has this table and his boys and a security and then my dad just leaned over to me and I hate you think you doing go get a picture with Mark I don't I don't I don't want it I don't want to ask cuz I have fought so hard to not ask for pictures with people I work with I want a picture malkovits but the same time I want to just be a colleague I don't want to get fat I think it's still kind of lame but if it's like hey Mark my parents a big fans can they get a picture and they just shoot very serious about the Boston Marathon bombing and I was playing a based on real-life Chinese person you know very detailed stuff like he speaks with a Chinese accent but it's a suit one Chinese accent when he mixes his elves and tease a guy forget I forgot what it was but I studied it for a long time it's not just a generic Chinese accent right and then his parents of course speaks this is fun dialect or at least just a very proper Mandarin and the actor they first hired to play my dad it just a Skype seeing very simple the actor they first hired to play my dad spoke Mandarin with a Cantonese accent so I wanted to pick broke the director of Pete man with the whole point of this movie is honoring these Heroes and be authentic and this guy you guys might not be able to tell I know and the Chinese audience will know this guys from Hong Kong from Guangdong or something he's not from Suits wine or male China you know a guy the few times on stage and you like what the f*** if he if he comes on this podcast maybe he have his own Hannah gadsby asked special and just only talk s*** about me in the special very funny of like you Antonia whoever a bunch of great writers and Craig comedian start plotting against me for his success what was this he was always like a really successful salesman he had his medical device company that he sold and salesman you have to have personality and you have to know how to read a room I took after I never really had much stage fright so that that he's he's a natural and you say Bust balls so he's always joking around he's too funny One In The Family Table how to do well when I really do think it's really a joke about the jealousy I really don't care he's an old man Let Him Live his bucket list with John Malkovich he doesn't want to do open mics but you got to or maybe doesn't got to I mean it depends on how how much of a perspective he has if he has like real takes on things that he could just go on stage with you never know man if he goes onstage without the context of this is Jimmy's dad and he's just an old man doing a set a long road but if I bring them up he's my batting people just kind of eat it up give him a little more slack maybe but that might help you accept the fact that he kills what if he goes onstage without any recognition of you whatsoever is when someone introduces them he goes on stage and just f****** murders wi to take can't immediately be good and stand up you need to put in that 5-10 years but if he's just good tell me when he's going to do it please it's just good yeah I would question myself like I'll be like, please tell me when he's going to do it please and I want to go I want to go watch

time I was doing upright Girls Club in Vegas MGM I was like understand Vegas I'm going to hook him up with a nice room I was I think opening a meddling is years ago I was finally going to see me in MGM cuz they know that's a nice place going to Comedy Club I could set you know afterwards you and the headliner and everyone's out there shaking hands meeting people my parents walked out right my mom's just positive you know and then my dad walked out and then my my my buddy Jack was next to me he was the middle house open right now my buddy Jack Coan older comic he he went up to my dad he's like oh my God hey Richard aren't you so proud and then my dad just looked at me in front of the entire audience of everyone else shaking and he's like no Jimmy's not funny how and and I don't know if he was years later he said that was a joke because because it's not he said this he said it's not funny if I tell you you're funny but it's funny if I tell you it's not funny there's a story there house I don't get the references I don't get culturally like what you're saying about whatever I can get it so he's kind of just being honest also so he's trying to be funny in his own way while being honest about his own take on it I don't yeah yeah he's honest but he's also still being the ball breaker he's a funny guy but sometimes it's hard to be his son if he's using me inexpensive Comics is it like the style comedy like insult comedy Lucille Ball ball breaking like what kind of yeah that's what does older Chinese Don Rickles Chinese people tell exact what the f*** is wrong with your face like Thanksgiving you know my mom would tell my girl cousin like oh Christina you got so fat being fat or gaining weight is prosperous is it's good it's auspicious or whatever she's a girl f****** say that you know a beautiful young woman you know and yeah it's it's it's hard to grow up with a high self-esteem in Asian household but there is a weird honesty to it I don't know I don't buy it they say it's honest I think it's passed down they say parents to talk to them and now they're doing it I don't know what there's something about work ethic in Asian households when I was young one of my good friends with his kid his name is Jung sik Jung Suk Chang and he went on to be National Taekwondo Champion while while he was in medical residency like I'm a lazy f*** cuz this guy was he works so hard but he was telling me that this is just how it was with family nothing you ever do is good enough like he's Korean and he was like my parents are so ruthless like everything had to be better nothing was ever good it didn't matter if you get straight A's you could do better you can always do better you never never good enough how to repair a tiger mom I think it's a real term mine is I guess a little nuanced like they would give it up for academic and they always call me smart and stuff but they will make fun of me like I remember after Orchestra practice in high school once my dad came very proud of you know so that you know but then a girl this really cute white girl came and talked to me after Tracy was her name my account at a crush on just came and talked to me she's like oh my God you're so good hey hey I'll talk to you later gave me a hug and everything else I was hoping he'll be proud you know and then he looked at her do you think he's competing with you a little bit there in that way I hate to think about that but I think there's got to be a part of that that's got to be a part of I want to get into acting confident because he shoots on you if you can do it I can do it she never know it's like yeah yeah Stockholm syndrome and I was like that why don't you why don't you a personal tell me to dating advice and also why did you never think I could like Deku girls or whatever and he was like sure but like I always said you were smart right so what sort of like he's excusing the fact that he dismissed your ability to I think whatever he wasn't good at he projected on me like I was as small as I was I was a pretty good athlete I could run pretty fast I can jump really high I used to play basketball even though small as like the underdog but you know but my dad do that you're flat-footed just like me you can't come on that's so that's a very opposite of what some weird like feeder parents do or coach parents do the thing that that happens when kids get their parents failed and sports and then they get really invested in their kid being awesome yeah something really weird about like it's it's a burden to for the kids like I've seen it with kids or the overbearing parents just want the kids to succeed so well because it booted like that's my boy out there kicking ass I'm 5 seen enough therapy I'm I'm fine it's fine it's fine he's flawed we're all flawed Good Will Hunting like I'm afraid you're going to be like Robin Williams it's not your fault it's fine it's fine he's flawed we're all flawed Good Will Hunting like I'm afraid you're going to be like Robin Williams me like it's not your fault it's not your fault

insulting thing I've gotten this recent I don't even talk about it but anyways I should because it's just funny scripts there's an email my agents going to be really angry at this not a good way to start an email and they want you to play a lead yeah but it's the biopic of William Hung I was like brother are you kidding red stuff 250 pages of that script I've never been so angry reading a script vomit and why can I do producers pick them out of a crowd and featured him just make fun of him and why the rest of America laughed at this guy that might be an interesting story but wasn't that the whole thing about American Idol it's like you had real talent but then you also had delusional people and the delusional people was part of the family I love watching there's something to be said I get that the guy signed a release and I get that that's part of the fun with the show but there is kind of a difference between people that are mentally challenged and someone just not very talented but people are laughing at exactly what I'm saying there's nothing wrong with his intentions want to make it right so there is a very nuanced way to write about William Hung that could work but we just shouldn't make that movie have we ran out of Asian people out there that I can do by a f****** William Hung she plans on my desk that's a part of the problem with reality TV in general right it's like what they're trying to do is that there's some reality TV that's based on actual events are taking place but a lot of it is like they're taking go to sign these releases on a lot of the shows that allow them to edit your words in a very distorted way but you can have a conversation you could have an answer to one question and they'll put that answer on another question is totally unrelated Brian you look like a real piece of s*** and there are one hundred percent allowed to do that when you go back home I have access to the raw tapes you can't release you don't want me to believe you but that's they victimize people on purpose just so that they can make a good what they call a good show yeah but they're doing that with him it's different because he's got a problem it's not like he's a guy likes not like if I decide I was going to be a singer that went on American America's Got Talent I was terrible I got probably suck but if I have a problem with a mental problem like there's something wrong with me and I do that and you know there's something wrong with me and you still put me on television that's where we're getting weird. Of mental disability he's on that Spectrum it's not you it's not Jamie it's not me like I was Regular Guy regular but you can talk to them but they like perfect perfect actors in America right I'm very fortunate to be in that position we all kind of know each other it's a small circle and very proud of all of us but early on in my career I got some flak from so come out my character you know it was accented character which I mean for me it's a little different because I came to this country was 13 I couldn't really speak English earlier version myself I understand his character whatever it's like this is offensive stereotype blah blah National character cuz the jokes no longer on him just being foreign it's on him being like a diabolical coder person but it's tough being an Asian actor Chris now not only do I have to decide on playing a part of not by looking at is this a good script I got to look at the cultural revocations is this good representation because there are so few of us each of us that does something mean so much more right that was to be Pooh character because there wasn't a lot of Indian and then you characterize route whatever that's what's great about crazy Rich Asians and I had a lot of fun on that movie because for one of the first times I wasn't the only Asian dude on set and I can just play a character my character is an a****** in that will be but I can just lean into that and be a character actor and play it and there's a whole spectrum of Asians it's not just one Asian representing all Asians and it's your handsome Asians your a****** Asians the Romantic lead and also the Bitchie ex-girlfriend whatever so we can just actually be actors for the first time and not be actor / Asian representative someone something like William Hung comes to the table racial stereotypes Society puts it through this filter of whether or not it's a valid and I'll give you Example The Sopranos the Italian-American Anti-Defamation League or whatever the f*** it is on or they were they were pissed at The Sopranos they're pissing it was it was reinforcing negative stereotypes about Italians and I'm Italian in Italian Yeah Yeah Yeahs reality is real do they eat pasta like that yes that's real yeah like that's because Italians are really discriminate against so it's doesn't hold any water so is not the only place where you see it so surprised nose is not the only place where you see a white people you can play whatever mentally handicapped got a not so smart guy or complete assholes because there's a million other white people

what's the fear that people have here in the United States of competing with China is that China has these advantages because their businesses are so their corporations are so intertwined with the government that we might do the same thing here I mean it's just it's a weird sort of slippery slope as a sort of as laws and all your different rights get eroded you get closer and closer to the government being in control things like these laws that the past recently where the government can just look into your internet searching with no warrant whatsoever this is something that I don't know if you know about this part of the Patriot Act that this was one of the things that was people are furious at Senator Sanders Bernie Sanders didn't he wasn't there didn't show up for the vote and if he had shown up and vote of the other way wouldn't have passed he won't comment he won't he's been reached out for us to comment on if he won't comment on it but it's disheartening in a lot of people who are progressives are furious at him and they they feel very very betrayed by this because not no one even knows like Mount you didn't know right most people know what the government can now look at all your dirty little searches I don't care about that I should be able to just go look like for whatever reason. I know James at home what if I have some code and go just look what it was Jamie looking at the government which is just a bunch of people can peer into your life and you can't hear in their life when you see that old man gets thrown to the ground the one that Trump said is Faking it that bashed his head yeah they still f****** Daniel Day-Lewis like they are actors like you know like sometimes I even said like dumb YouTube videos of funny YouTube video of somebody's girlfriend deleting his 2K NBA account and he just destroyed everything for him like not to like or like whatever I was just destroyed crying that is a f****** Emmy Award oscar-winning actor batshit it's because that is not easy to do people think everything is fake Jesus Christ protest yeah that was real dude if activists the president United States say that okay bro you would fall that way to he's a Meisner trying to actor and his a blood pact in the back of his head like how can that think that please try to be a good idea to tweet that the keys falling apart all this protest s*** he's falling apart and also the fact they denied that they used teargas to clear out that square so that he can go to the church to my game and there's video there's video of teargas you know you want to call it's pepper gas okay you know that pepper gas in war violate the Geneva Convention like a bio bio think I'm pretty sure the argument that they're making is you can't use tear gas in war but you should be able to use it in protest and these cops are shooting rubber bullets and you know people losing their f****** eyes here it is the military's banned from using teargas on the battlefield but police can use it on crowds at home here is why this is on CNN that just think about that the mill is f****** banned from using this but you're using it on civilians that just want to protest the tortured death of a guy who was being detained by a cop who had a 14-year history of being a piece of s*** and dozens of complaints of abusive behavior and they're going to use teargas these people and just shoot rubber bullets randomly it folks I don't know what it takes the lowest common denominator like he has to murder someone like in front of you and people still be like it's slowly but surely stuff like this he can't help himself and under pressure when they when people are angry at him because of all this and I think one of its kind of crazy but one of the big things that started off we really lost his composure was all that s*** that he said about Lysol like maybe you could get disinfectant and put it in the cleansing and then the next day they were asking about it I was being sarcastic to see how you reporters would Kant like no you weren't you were rambling you were like I've done that before I caught rambling but he would say flick about health issues Salinas CDC some Americans are gargling with bleach or putting it on food to fight covid-19 Is that real washing stuff with bleach younger than your young you don't know any better I guess you not uneducated but at a certain age like you should know not the f****** gargle with bleach right tide pod challenge all over again it's tide pod

what kind of steroids were dudes doing back then can you get prescriptions for steroids what kind of steroids do they give you a prescription for my Uniden where y'all doing they had kids out there without taking it and committing suicide see I didn't know what that was when I was a kid getting depressed from the steroids actor that was willing to prescribe everything so this was this while you're doing mr. Olympia so all that stuff was about board was all legal if you didn't have description they took your stuff so they find whatever you had taken from me and I didn't know where it was you told him when you are at your house without no you can't get that big to have to it's genetics yes baseball players that's taking stuff and look at us yeah but probably by 1% that can get as big as I got and I was the only guy nobody duplicated that sense in you being that condition and be healthy I don't have any health problems frequent test every every 3 to 4 months on the doctor would go over after I make sure everything's always seems to be the big misconception about steroids Dorian Yates said basically the same thing wasn't he was taking a lot. Compared to a lot of people think I was taking a massive amount to stuff it if I didn't take him get off of that 3-month. Would you cycle off of everything cold turkey cold turkey I didn't take anything or nothing and what did you feel like over those three mama just feel normal body temp normal didn't bother me a bit. So crazy didn't get depressed and nothing you know yeah until then after three months anyways slowly went back up so we ran back up and all this under doctor supervision three to four months so a lot of guys after they're done competing then they have to get on testosterone replacement therapy because the endocrine system kind of bag back did you have to do that as well yeah yeah hey babe it's interesting though because like for the longest time these guys were doing these ads in magazines and they were attributing everything to some supplement that they were selling or some creatine or some disappointment and all that stuff. yeah yeah I'll talk about it I didn't have no reason to hide that people could see my people stupid not having it prescribed and all this kind of stuff also the more is better get bad stuff you can ride but there were some guys that would just say well the way to win is to take away more than everybody else yeah but he was just on everything yeah but he didn't make it to 30 yeah he died before he was thirty some people yeah they do the wrong way and I didn't start taking it think I was 30 got to get my ass kicked one of the competitive suggested that to me feeling okay best friend in the world somebody that somebody that knows what they're doing is somebody that successful at it not something dumb trainer that think they know you don't major contest and 1617 somewhere in there I never did that kind of sucks because we didn't have it where I was from how much of a Night and Day difference was it when to start taking stuff as far as the condition blind a 9-day in your abilities at work put in work no no

I said that you look like a dude who they invented in the Marvel comic book To Kill The Hulk everything everything was just so scream yeah Wilson 1213 Allison teen powerlifting in high school so I can pilot continue and you know I got one from Louisiana's real small-town most of the lot of the guys are kind of big like me kind of strong like me seeing a lot of people understand but strengthened some like a national natural gift you know you can work on it and get better at it but you also have to be gifts little bit space and you have to have a real talent how to weight as a lot of weight you have to have a lot of weight to a bed and pull out the way like that to you in your career you were known for lifting large amount of weight to yeah yeah yeah born with a little bit and you know you don't just start lifting heavy weights like that all the sudden and you have to have a I said you have to have something natural talent for it but there's some crazy photos you during the days when you were a police officer is that you stop playing football and I think I fell on my wrist or something and crackers or something and that's Miss Universe turning pro in the middle and ask me winning the 99 Mr Olympia for right there how's 295 my seventh one as I got up there to keep up with everybody else and everybody just keeps getting bigger and bigger know it was that thing I was trying to distance myself from everybody so I kept getting bigger and bigger with me it took a long time for me to get there and all that doesn't happen overnight I put on about 5 lb of muscle between 5 and 10 pounds of muscle a year and that came from all that you know that heavy lifting a lot of eating a lot of eating real breasts in old with half a cup of rice that was a normal meal to eat like that so I would have to wake up in the middle of the night to eat and go back to sleep when you eat like that you get your hungry every 3 hours El really every 2-3 hours you hungry cuz I'm not I'm not eating a lot of fat you know this is lean and all I eat a lot of carbs so it's just it's a little little bit of it was and you would get down there, what percent body fat I was point 33.33 when I want mean 0.33 like what .33 how does a human get that low so at 12 weeks out how much body fat do you think you were carrying around then 3% that's the highest yeah Jesus I'm 300 I'm 330 lb detecto oh my God but you get tired all the time I remember looking at the magazines and look like shaking my head today I would say all that's photoshopped getting crazy when the judges at Mr Olympia telling you multiple years ago I didn't have gas get that big taste right like it's the look at and they decide anyway he is kind of subjective anyway what year was the seventh one that does look like a guy who comes out of a lab to kill the Hulk and I like some Evil Genius Like The Hulk is working for the Avengers yeah yeah so they they how do they make that conversation with you and they say Ronnie are too big bring it down Notch of you when you're still on the police force and you are also I don't know if your mr. Olympia when you're on the police force with you and then you will eventually left the phone you were so big you sitting there with the uniform on might there is no way that's a regular uniform know if not know it we did wear shorts though we didn't have shorts I think you see that picture right there and in the briefing room but they not showing my legs right there we had about four or five station every station has a gym have a training center with a huge gym beginning this idea that one day that was this Italian guy gave me a free membership to the gym I never had a dream my feet and I couldn't afford membership still for a big guy mr. Olympia event and most people in the audience thought that I should be on stage back then really think so you know what they thought that I had 22 23 and 24 like I'm going to 24 inch waist for like 29 when I first started wow that was good thinking that happen I want the first one in 98 how do you enter it what would makes you want to enter something like that well I like to say that the guy said if you compete I give you a free membership to the gym okay so I was just competing for a free membership to the gym cuz I work full-time Police Department I had that job had like security jobs on the side so you would need money for a free membership and obviously people go this guy's got real potential I guess they were saying that to themselves that everybody say that Olympia bodybuilders right now want to jump out of a building is being an accountant make good money there so I never had no dreams or aspirations being bodybuilder but you never were in accounting no I never made it you never had it I never got a job so you just got a job in the police department said in the United States okay I'm done this ain't nothing happening here you know that's 2 years and and I always saw an ad for police officers and when I got the newspaper weekend and it was always a big ass out so I might and you don't need experience so I might as well just give up on this you know just go get me a job we don't have to have experience and if I say the police officer ask what is the thing that stood out the most and I'm like you know I had any dreams of being a mr. Olympia I never had in dreams Amanda bodybuilding I only did it cuz the guy gave me a free membership to the gym and you won mr. Olympia and you realized wow I'm the best I got to throw myself into this exactly the way you worked out man I watch a video of you working out once and like just the intensity and thinking like this schedule for 12 week straight the intensity that you had in the gym aguiar there's a certain level no matter what sport is Champions have a certain level of focus and dedication find joint working out when you won the first mr. Olympia how old are you then 34 okay so yeah it is solid 8 years of lifting you know this is exactly the first mr. Olympia how old were you then 34 okay so yeah it is solid 8 years of lifting you know this is exactly

you've also since then you had a bunch of surgeries and 13 so far and what what started that off my back in high school and college football hit my back and neck Chiropractic for a long time and then one day and the gym I heard it like in 96 and I guess it just got worse over overtime so when you herniate that disc what did you do to treat it nothing nothing with the chiropractor nerve text me whatever they call it and so 13 of those huh or was it like you get a surgery and then you better for a little while and then you hurt something else because the first one was back second was back then I think the third one's neck and then back back and hip back back back it is it's just having a little bit better now than one account with bad the f*** is broke and I had to replace both of them and dolphin it can I just broke the sockets well I follow you on Instagram and I watch your workouts and it's it's inspiring and after all this you still loved working out you can really tell and you enjoy it the other hobby look forward to it every day give you any pause at all knowing that you've been through all the surgeries and long time so really the daughters of how you know how you feel cuz I'm still in pain and all that kind of stuff but are you in pain all the time I mean yeah I can remember in high school and college you know I wasn't paying some days all the time so why you can't get used to it doesn't really bother you that you have a spectacular tolerance for pain I was coming up on route number 8 and all the sudden it was a loud gunshot sound I do 600 for like 12 13 race all the time this time I took a couple weeks off and I thought I was still as strong as I was when I took the time off but I wouldn't I lost a little strength snapped on me like that but you know the athlete in you is like you know what let's go on finish finish this up so I finished every time after I finish working out doing legs I always had a real bad pain in my back every single time but it was always go away in like an hour this day it didn't and I was about to just went home eight put on my uniform was headed to work and I like wait a minute my back is still hurting this is 2 hours almost 2 hours later something's wrong I ain't going to work today I want emergency room yeah I like video see nothing wrong with your back if they probably couldn't get to it no I don't I'll get ready for the show so so it was okay yeah it's okay two weeks after you herniated disc and doing squats again but how much weight 10 years 10 years I was just intolerable pain like that's going on I couldn't I couldn't walk like no more like 25 ft without my my leg being on fire by feet being on fire and a whole lot of pain so I knew it's time to get some serious done here now use it connect me with a shaved it off oh, that's how I was the first one there for a while you know II about a year or so later I started having problems again been in pain to get in same area so is that bit more difficult so it just kind of went bad on me again and I had to have another surgery same time surgery they trim more off of it they did what you call like a 2008/2009 I'm a little bit more often do but down here from there and so after that injury and not surgery then how do you wind up with the other 11 surgeries well like the first time you herniate a disc just like you can you stack a bunch of cans on top of each other and you snapped one out well after while the other one is going to start falling how to place too and that's kind of what happened the other day starting gets herniating on their own course I was working at 2 and I still have one now the last one so what did they do with your back they basically fuse everything together now how much Mobility do you have your spine that's like that what is that feel like amount of stretch of the doctors are they confident that this is the last one I mean you've got them all fused yeah it's always something though when you and activating you always working out and I was in the gym this morning would be something you just accept that view I got used to it now has been so it been having sit like a 7 or 13 years now wow are you in this wheelchair all the time so I've been up for so long my legs get real weak and is it because of your back yeah by cutting off the nerves or something a bunch of places that they do it where they can do it at with a lot stronger stem cells naked do in America with Colombia does it and there's a place in Panama that actually sent my mom now my mom they wanted to give her a knee replacement and doctors just didn't want to operate right away and I was like let me let me see dad was in real bad shape when he was 92 and then now he's a hundred needs fine I mean is gone back there a bunch of times keeps going back for stem-cell long story short my mom was scheduled to get a knee replacement I sent it down to Panama and six months later it started to feel good eight months later no pain at all talk to a lady think it'll do me a lot of good so is it there's scar tissue around the nerves that's pushing it to nerves now cuz if the all the discs are gone and everything's fused what's irritating the nerves Scar Tissue all that Hardware I got 14 screws to cages I got to ride but this long and there to socialize a lot of cages in the cages look like so it's a cage around your spine what's the purpose of that together keep them in place you got an x-ray of any of this yet live and I still workout everyday I'm still normal so I'm good no way no way now no more heavy-duty the size of those screws in that picture on the left they are about 3 inches long 2 to 3 inches long and they got screws on the end of them boats on the NW we have your whole back yeah so there's no wow for 3 4 5 and 6 and so in doing this they've saved your back but they all the Hardware's was f****** with your nerves yeah yeah all the hardware on the nerves causing pain and stuff but this is some major surgery to do that you know they got a cut me from always top to bottom and and I'll take all those out as 14 of them that started from the top hallway down to the bottom would that be possible that they did that it would alleviate some of the pinching on your nerves you think about taking it up top just the one on the top is the one that's herniated now and Peyton Manning have an office in Dallas they have an office in Santa Monica and I went to the one in Santa Monica and they they take your blood out they spin it and they apply some medication to it and then it becomes as yellow serum and then they injected the yellow serum directly into the area where the disc is and it alleviates all the information in the disc goalie goes back into place for me within two weeks I had extreme relief more than two weeks and then now there's no no bulging disc that all I went back up after I did a full round of treatments which I think was remember correctly five or six different treatments I went back I got a new MRI and there's no bowls anymore do the PRP stem cells and no that's why I went to the doctor cuz they said after a couple years everything would be used up for you if used up and I can take the screws out Hospital work every couple weeks ago but still in pain and I said still pinching me and say got nerve being pinched and I think you know I'm too my foots totally know and I get some strength back I also do you think you're going to wind up doing that if possible one day I would like to man I'm hoping someone hears this that's a specialist that has a solution for you how many different doctors have you seen one just the one doctor that's the one Mount Nala fourth the fifth one they operate on me for about 13 hours they cut me in the front turn me on the side cut me on the side and then they put me on my back and cut me on my back and that gave me a lot of problems what what kind of surgery was as another Fusion yeah why they have to cut you in 20 places probably had a few so many screws and that wasn't 15 I think wow I was walking fine to the hotel the next day my Mobility got worse and the day after I was on crutches and I've been on my own ever since just so out of nowhere nowhere from the surgery was this front inside the back and then everything is downhill from there is urine Fort Worth dr. Reardon is actually his offices in Dallas that's pretty close to you and see if there's anything that he could do five years now a guy who is all the level of athlete that you were when you were that crime and how old do you know I just turned 56 two weeks ago you look great at working out everyday and eating good I'd like to get home this background while I get my strength back guaranteed doctor weird and probably help now I don't want to guarantee but he's a real expert and you know I stem cells and the benefits of stem cells

show me a seventeen-year-old girl filming him with her camera 17 year old girl got the George full video there's a lot of people out there when they're interesting what are your thoughts on what has transpired since that gives me hope when I see fifty thousand people wonderful downtown LA already to bail out why couldn't you find the money to all these cities that have the systemic crime and violence in the races has been gone forever forever Baltimore and figure out a way to get to do something with her that does know nothing on the table is just crime-ridden neighborhoods just how they are again doesn't matter until it affects the pockets like his crime is having an appointment neighborhood it's not affecting somebody's money that nobody cares II that crime secondly started breaking windows on Fifth Avenue now all the sudden it's more about the Blasio it was really interesting cuz we had to like I don't like really process how I felt about it because the Looting obviously was wrong and we did that clip want to be like the writing I understood and I think I can justify I was talking to his name cuz he's a college professor I want to get in trouble for talking to us and helping us out you know the distinguished gentleman and where these Ruffians but he was like he's like me a really sad with constitutional law and stuff and he said this argument at those really interesting benefit yourself when you Loop right you're taking advantage of the tragedy write the tragedy smokescreen so that you can benefit right and we made him stay the same from like any Instagram model that's also taking a picture like at the thing but not really actually do anything that's like you're alluding to your enriching yourself great looting wrong in the middle which is destruction of property right to like send this message and as Mark and I were putting together 2-piece we're talkin this dude he seemed a decision point he goes as a citizen you have the right to your life liberty pursuit of happiness but also property right and if the state is destroying the most valuable piece of property that you have which is your body right you have to take some sort of recourse in order to protect that right you broken broke the sofa concert contract they broke it right when they maybe you're shooting you were shooting our neighbors Etc you peacefully protest if that goes on deaf ears for decades what the f*** else are you supposed to do like what you can keep saying peaceful protest but if it keeps on happening there really isn't anything else available to you so the next thing is destruction of property I think the best way to do it probably destroy public property not private property but if you destroy property actually be taking the high road because that's a response to having life destroyed you destroy my life I just f***** up your park pools reasonable here well it was all coordinated and thought that way yes and I think what happened in Minnesota in particular would happen with the priest police precinct the cops and then looting and the Looting is different unacceptable unacceptable more evidence of police brutality instead of the cops saying hey this guy killed this guy it makes us all look terrible that we are not like that we're better than that most of them probably did do that got a lot of them they fell back to their cop ways they fell back to their ways of Smashing four field in two people running over pedestrians and all the crazy s*** that we saw shooting a guy in the f****** face with a tear gas canister see that they sell pepper spray them and then they shot him with a flashbang right in the f****** faint really oh my God f****** a****** cops are doing chick so he's putting video after video after video a video after video of cops grabbing a Woman by the neck and thrown into the ground slim she should just do what what are you saying to me why why do I have to listen to Mason people Mason young girls Mason people for no f****** reason this one guy was was talking s*** to the cops to the cops just walk right up to pepper spray and drag him throw away his freedom Jeff the guy's not committing a crime you're violating the First Amendment violated his constitutional right but one of them gets pepper sprayed in the face and then they can cure gas can and here's why I have no Talent whatsoever for police brutality when we were in a wreck the mission changed and it went from going there and fuckshit up that's how it is when you're trying to win a war to win minds and hearts and they explained to us while we were there for winning minds and hearts and that means you guys are have to take on more risk that means you'll just kick in the door and then light it up you have to make sure that you're not taking out innocence at least try you were taking on more risk you risking your 3 goes when I see police Battalion like if we can afford that luxury to a country that we're at war with how the f*** can we not afford that luxury torrone citizens he goes if I'm told to take on more risk than maybe these cops have to take on more risk and pay them for it increase payment increase training don't defund but increase rest requirements and really make them Heroes but he said that he was like it seemed to me that the culture at policing in America and I could be wrong way I talk to Cops about it but this what he said it seems to me is the idea is no cop ever gets left behind no cop ever goes down instead of protective people don't cuss I can head out the brownies to the blood come out of his head and you just a guy said something you didn't like so you threw him to the ground you knew it was old and feeble you knew it was and you did it with potentially a confidence of knowing that nothing would happen to there wouldn't be any ruins the bunch doesn't you just remove the Bad Apple but if you can't remove the Bad Apple if your systems in play that don't allow it then it ruins the bunch so if there's one systemic change we make maybe it's people get prosecuted or cops will get prosecuted for violating the law cuz I really would allow that allow I really love if we had this relationship with the cops were like f*** you guys are brave man thank you dangerous job and thankless in a lot of ways a lot of words so it's like white how do we shift this and how much risk do they have to take or what change we make so that we can look at that Miguel thank God we got these guys around Facebook block it scares us know what you said about your friend be in the Marines his f****** hard to get through boot camp man it's hard it's right there that you have to travel to be a Navy SEAL assholes are sociopaths the people that would would be willing to lend their Shin on a man's neck for 8 and 1/2 minutes near those people are sick to find those people before they get to the position where they could do that to a person how do you do that how do you say owls are like that potentially could f****** kill somebody for the wrong reasons that potentially could f****** kill somebody for the wrong reason you got to train them like your weeding them out like this is a great honor and we know we can ship that but we have to think about it in terms of allocation of resources cops don't get paid enough

questionable MMA for you okay why do we keep hearing about that underpaying stuff well right now in particular there's probably less money because the fighters have to agree to certain deals and then become more popular and then they want to renegotiate their yeah and the UFC is like what we're just trying to stay open yep we're not going to renegotiate anyting today like to leave it but this is what it is I think it's a matter of that but looking at it from the fighters perspective Fighters would be certainly better off if there was more competition that's always hotworx yep so whether it's Bellator one FC or all these different companies the more of those there are the more World Series of fighting the moral professional fight you would have the f****** call now the more of those rise the better it is for everyone it's just how it is it's like if there's only improvs and then you get banned from the improvs you're f***** but you have funny bones if you have places but there's one clear top of the food chain but it's because they do it the best they're also the only ones that are having fights during this quarantine the only people putting on any live sporting event but they're also a part of a company and WME that's hurting and needs it yeah really bad so there's not a lot of money to throw around like to keep the doors open to keep people employed a lot of money is is missing shows got cancelled yeah there's all these audience members that are going to be there buying tickets and so It's Tricky mad so this is why I think they're complaining about fighter pay I think they should get paid more right I think everybody should get paid more a crazy way to make a living I think you should get the most amount of money you can possibly get but it's also a business and I think that if they are struggling as much as I think they are I don't talk finances with I know the WME people own it most businesses are hurting its entertainment business millions of people to say yeah yeah it is interesting because you have you have a situation where like the quality of the fights is undeniably better because it's not in the free-market you have people that are really good at picking out fights and for the most part I say this as a boxing fan right so I grew up in boxing where there are tons of different divisions are transition companies if you want. and sometimes I do sometimes I don't write but like a mess and it sometimes it happens if you have guys were like really boring Fighters but they get a position where they have the belt and then actually hurts the sport in a way but they earned and they deserve it so as like a sportsman I'm like they deserve to have it like a lot of people I love Floyd Mayweather I think he's the best fighter in the history of fighting right I need actually one of the greatest people at their job ever has Michael Jordan boxing one of the greatest boxers if not the greatest boxer that has ever lived and I feel like I don't know if that's just because of the sport but also because of the way that they're matching the fighters and it's not specifically hey your rank here we have to match you part of it is your interview right here but also your Styles and make something interesting so I wonder if it's better to not be completely free market and it's better to have the fights for the quality of the sport if you are a fan it's certainly better for you if the fighters get if they all get together and one organization and then that organization makes them fight each other that way there's what is many dream matchups you never get to see like one of things that everybody got upset was by the time Floyd fought Manny Pacquiao is like past Manny's Prime shoulder and five years earlier and UFC light heavyweight fights but what do you want and they say when you get what you're paid in your contract that's what you get and he's like well I'm not fighting then and they go okay and paper view 600 700,000 how much money how much money call are they right how much how hard is it to make money right now how much can you afford how much do they make I don't know these answers how much do they make for a pay-per-view were $700,000 a million buys the ticket prices like a live gate people all spending on average on a $50 ticket and on top of that there's merch there's all sorts of s*** that you know I'm sure they probably get some sort of a operate didn't fire anybody it's one thing about the UFC they would not fire people so they stayed open wouldn't wouldn't fire anybody while they were going on for months today in people they tried to do that one at the Indian place Lemoore California they are real close to doing that but then the f****** Governor got a hold of the head of Disney and eyes during the called and told the pull-out Florida's light come on in so then we do one in Florida with no audience loved him then finally they're allowing us to do them at the Apex Center in Vegas DFCS operating with full cost for months right with without any money coming in at all they have to think that yeah that's right it's like WME I think I paid 4 billion or something for them or something that's really so they and their clients and if their clients can't work because of Corona the agency has no Revenue coming in none 0 is no TV is there some TV shows getting made but like still they're not they're not doing production like films or something like that and you know it is interesting cats Corona it is and now you want to be the NBA commissioner kilgrave published omigod orbi UFC promoter that you fighter gets sick goes home and kills his mom works for them you know let me your mom helps cook for you your mom get sick maybe moms helping you in Camp your mom gets sick and dies from Corona because they had the fights I don't think that's going to happen I think particularly now when I don't think that's going to happen I think particularly now when you're hearing these reports of the cases diminishing the other viral load that there are finding a like in Italy is so small it's barely detectable the same s*** happens here as it gets hot out

now we're just talking about it before like there's all these articles now about how doctors are saying that the people coming of them are less sick than they ever were before yeah I was like skating in Italy rather they're saying there's such a small amount of virus it's almost undetectable now it's run through the country yeah yeah you think that's all it was was right turn off the problem is Monday morning quarterbacking weird like the second pops all Tom Hanks as I got it for the whole crew got it a lot of people hospitalized it was in Australia is okay at the end it just gets really bad if to a conspiracy I would say you would kill Tom Hanks I wouldn't say you let him walk away free because he gets it and he kicks it I remember I didn't know a single regular person that had it but all these athletes had every basketball team a few people had it all these actors had it okay but then it just Alba is just a really good shape in shape after he seems okay with Tom Hanks is an older gentleman who doesn't movies in great shape yeah he got through it read it in the past right II you said anything against the church a shame you they ostracize you who the f*** are you how could you say these things that put you in a little box where you get excommunicated any of us were like you sure it really kills everyone are you sure are you sure wasn't that what determines I think you were with blasphemy or something and then all the sudden this information start to come out with it it's not that bad the curve is kind of flattening it comes out today it was obviously said if your asymptomatic you can't transfer it as easily they thought it's almost impossible if you have a cough if you're sneezing if you got the flu since I come that's it crank it open. Crank it open another month so this is where we could be because now it's not the economy to get to real people dying on your watch people die you would just done the right thing and kept those people safe and kept everything closed for another month right so I think it's that it's also these people are not healthy people right I know a lot of really intelligent people that are not healthy sufficient levels of vitamin D you take care of yourself getting the song I drink a lot of water don't get f***** up every night don't eat sugar all day like you probably going to be okay and maybe what's devastating even more so is how many suicides we thought we had how many people died because because of the depression you did you hear that stabbed that like Corona actually save lives cuz people are driving in a car accident people car accident death car accident deaths what else was there I mean there's a lot more domestic violence but a lot more child abuse to really a lot of child abuse a lot of domestic violence and then what's really scary is the f****** suicides because people who are already barely hanging on but might have pulled through if they had a good job had a way to make a living now they're broke and have to beg for money and they they got one $1,200 check if they forgot it everybody I know that's a comic is making more money like mideling on the road and they're barely doing it they get the $1,200 Stanley check they get furloughed from their job so I think you get like six hundred bucks or something a month when are week or something when you're furloughed they're leaking like a grand a week like everybody had money what is it the other thing we're just in the pandemic Price at right and it dip down the protest right now they priced out at the protest petition

I'm doing good what does it feel like what does it feel like having step-back you step away you get to look at it from a fresh perspective what does it feel like there's satisfaction in my life a little bit to Daniel you know if Daniel would have be stupid me on chick and he retired on top almost at the two division will champ and that I don't feel like I have that chip on my shoulder you know it as a wrestler retired from the Olympics at a very young age you don't decide to come back 3 years later but you know what I mean it was it was already. He retired at the age of 21 and then now they just 33 I'm truly Calling it Quits unless there's there's a couple fights that if I do come back I like that word unless a little bit of time before it was about the money a little bit with the UFC and obviously know everybody does have a price but I think there's there's there's a fight that I would really like in the UFC and that would be against Alexander volkanovski wake me up in the morning three Division World Champion a chance to be a two-division world champion that you know a lot of people have counted me out against Demetrius against TJ against Marlin at inmate me maybe it was you to joke I think it's I think it's at a couple things if I was to explain it to you like what's Woods made me successful in and I've seen it going to be nothing look at training center and as a high-school kid and living out there for four years and that's actually what I meant Daniel and I was a six-year-old kid when I first met these guys and I was able to analyze a lot of the greats like you know Stephen abas Daniel Cormier a lot of the Olympic team and what I've learned now that the age of 33 have separated me from it's two things when I call heart and ability and I was actually able to tell this story to to Chachi then with the the founder and CEO of one at Sea and it also it's two things I caught heart and ability what is your heart your heart is your passion your will your desire your determination your heart is something that you want to suffer for in order to obtain now the next one is ability you know ability is as a gift that you have since since she know they took coordination it's something that you've wrapped over time when you become a master at it and it happens a lot of time it's always tell people it's good to question one of the other question the mind I'm sorry I'm sorry the heart or the ability because to be the 1% of the one percenters like both these things have to match what happens is a lot of people have heart but their abilities that way down here and now there Billy doesn't match their heart or their abilities up here and there just a little lazy and can't move the peacock because there is a separation between mind and body and your job is to connect them both tonight and I'm going to use an example with Marla Mirage you saw me getting my ass kicked you saw me getting late kicked you know from the first so I went to the second round but I knew that I had a connecting to make that transition I was a combination of combining the heart in the ability you know so I was able to kind of show with separated me I'd say that I think is being being gifted it to the ability and then just having a in a wheel that should second-to-none there's a lot of other factors that wasn't there's like not just ability it's also you have to be coached by someone who really knows what they're doing it's there's there's so many guys out there that are really tough and they have will and they work out hard and they're in shape but they just make tactical mistakes and that they've never correct those those mistakes yeah well I think that also goes back on the ability would put that into the ability portion the reason because you got to put yourself in the right situations like I didn't start winning until I let go of my coaches the first time I lost Demetrious Johnson it was it was hard in this song is some very crazy and cynical but it was kind of hard to blame myself even though it's coming from the Olympic sport that I had a coach that could take me to the top and there is no ifs or was like I knew he knew the recipe and it may was still fairly new and it's still fairly new sport so I that I have to find the professors I knew that I had to find the scientist and all this again ordered for me to become that perfect storm so that's exactly what we did he know putting putting the signs the recovery of find the right coaches listening to my ability understanding my biomechanics like it was a mixture of all these things that's that's made that separated me from the first of my father Demetrios so just being a just being a Legend killer man to being all these guys that they said that that is Demetrious Johnson TJ polymerize Dominick Cruz man that's that's a hell of a list of A-list you know what the hell it is one of the reasons why bums me out that you've retired like conflicting feeling so happy I'm happy retired young and healthy and you could do anything you want man I really believe a guy who can accomplish what you accomplished inside the octagon and also winning Olympic gold medalist winning Olympic gold medal in wrestling at 21 years old retiring from the sport then getting into MMA becoming a to division camping in MMA and then stepping away water still healthy in at the peak of your abilities Part of Me loves that I love the fact you did what you wanted to do and then you step away a part of me looks back at like say when you fought benavidez or say when you fought Demetrius the first time and it looks at you now like you were two completely different animal nobody had been able to shut down Dominick Cruz has footwork game but you came in and just chop the s*** out of his legs just right off the bat you you whatever Advantage we thought that he would have with his footwork and movement what is it was actually becoming a disadvantage because you were using that against them you were you you found the Angles and you found the perfect time to attack his legs and then you put them away which is also something no one's ever done before except your I caught him in a submission and finish finish them but no one's ever put away put away the way you did cuz you were using that against them you were you you found the Angles and you found the perfect time to attack his legs and then you put them away which is also something no one's ever done before except your I caught him in a submission and finish finish them but no one's ever put away put away the way you did

let's talk about that fight because that was a crazy situation right first of all TJ look like dead man walking going to the Wayans like I said as bad as anybody I've ever seen besides Travis Lewis was a dehydration thing TJ and starved himself down to a skeleton it was real weird and then when you found out that he is taking EPO and then he said that he was taking EPO because he just didn't have any energy from cutting that weight I don't I don't know but I don't know what the answer what it was but I'm just I felt sick inside when I found out you like it's it's stuck a sadness that it brings to you because dudas like yeah we may talk stuff you know to each other will not but it's it doesn't get that personal or shouldn't get that person for somebody to take an EPO man something that a drug that you just will never get tired in a fight that do with these 4oz gloves you know what I'm saying like it's a little bit of malastare Mance remember that day big Skillet as we grew up with now I got it this is hurting him what you've done if you found out before the fight if they gave you the option I thought it turns out we just got TJ's drug sample back and you tested positive for EPO you can still find me if you want to we're going to strip them we're going to even if he wins you wear strip on we're going to find them and keep them from fighting for two years he's going to get convicted of using the stuff crucified him just don't tell anybody in about that something one of the one of the commentators might have Dominick Cruz he was talking about guys missing way and then wind winding up winning the fight cuz they have an advantage they didn't cut the wait like we all know there's a certain point time with you shouldn't lose anymore weight but we also know there's a dark land where most people don't travel through we can make it through you could get to that point where you don't want to do any more your f****** dying inside but you staying there in after 20 minutes to make the wait or some people don't but the guy would doesn't look as bad for your body to cut that much weight the guy leaves with extra five pounds on his body that's big yeah it is but also it is actually it is why that's when I felt like the most prepared you're like I felt even till now my career I convert time like I'm really done and that's the best that I've ever felt men against TJ Dillashaw so I think to answer that question I think I still would fight him for that reason is I did everything natural that use science and like the most prepared y'all like I felt even till now my career I convert time like I'm really done and that's the best that I've ever felt men against TJ Dillashaw so I think to answer that question I think I still would fight him for that reason I said that everything natural that use science and

what you got here Native American lady gave me this I came in to talk to us about I got in this long kick of reading about Native American history but this lady came in and educated me on a lot of issues and brought me some are these virtual the one actually not too long ago I was actually with the with Uncle Mike he told me that with Mike Tyson and dimethyltryptamine that's excreted by the Toads skin they they take this type of toad I forgot the name of the toad but they get excited and excrete this stuff from its skin onto glass and then they leave that glass out in the sun and it dries that excretion dries and then the scrape it up with a razor blade and then you smoke that stuff or you could just get a synthetic version of it Colorado River toad on Twitter Sonoran desert toads and you can find the center of the universe through the excretions of the stove by Nowitzki actually wanted everybody to be able to he's the one of the first guys to say it's not sensitive it's not a performance enhancer although with Nick Diaz I think it might be yeah I think it would Nick Diaz in might actually be a performance enhancer I really think so he had to have gotten hot so much weed in his system when they tested him that he had to have gotten high right before the fight so I'm going to share my story with each other and I want you to share yours with me Tobacco on the outside so it's a blunt inside it's the weed I get this from speedweed shout out to my mangino I I get high with my can I get nervous just when I'm nervous when I meet him look at he was one of my heroes when I was a kid Mike Tyson was the f****** man I mean in a way that is hard for people to convey today to understand what a cultural figured my Tyson was in like 1986 it's hard to convey you're not going to no one's going to understand youngest ever heavyweight champion and I'm knocks out Trevor berbick when he's 20 years old he wasn't going to be Raleigh right late in his career when it was real sad was a real sad fight is real sad fight I swept the last time I'm good friends with the with his manager Rob Rob Hickman and the Chester said that they doing at Tyson Ranch mine is pretty cool and they're bringing medicine to the world so might have been on this pod cuz he's always talked about the toad you sure you want I'm like yeah but you've been talking about it for a minute so you know so we go out we go on this this holding real nice settlement with rituals or not even go out 220 which is an island off the of the Caribbean we have a African what they're called the person that a shaman Shaman I'm sorry and that he's out there in the game of Mike goes first so might imagine this is Mike Tyson a lot of wood with that with that does the brings out your a lot of your as you say you do you open up stays a lot of your demons a lot of things that you probably been holding onto for a minute so I'm seeing I'm seeing Mike over here twist and turn and kind of thing talked about a lot of that don't want to share that stuff but you know talked about a lot of his past minute as me and she said that's the way I look at my two because so then I go up and I do it and the man to take me to especially out of retirement here man like I would almost kind of somewhat wanted answers I was hoping that it would give me a Pokemon this is like the path will not and it took me it took me to like it took me to my mom's like your mom's like first love you know and it showed me like in the store almost like in the movie you know how I was born how my mom had me how I how about time I was 8 years old had my sister so will no longer the youngest how my mom kind of like you know if not fair is kind of someone pushed to the side leaving home at the age of 17 and then substituted my mom's love for self-fulfillment wrestling mixed martial arts and they brought me back to a little kid when I was maybe four or five when I would cry to my mom cuz I remember as a kid we would go to go from LA to New Mexico like in Greyhound stopping at McDonald's and things like that but to me you know as a kid you don't know you're poor but what that it is that brought me back to the person that created and I brought me back to my moms love men suede like it like resurrected something in me and I was crying I was asking for like forgiven So speaking in Spanish I'm off I don't even like Mom forgive me it was something it was something scary in some ways because it does to its at that takes you out of your body like it's it's it's almost like judgement day and you're the one that's being convicted and you're the judge to and it's telling you but it's giving you the certain piece it's like you're so dead that you're alive is it true I don't know which was you had but this do you know you have the rights to to make these decisions and and sheriff is good and I feel like the toad was one of the best things that's that's happened to me like honesty cuz it makes you realize and reflect on what truly matters I think there's a fear of it just because it's illegal the really think that's it and it should be respected it's very dangerous in that sense that I could not do harm to physically if it's the real deal it's not going to do harm to physically your body has it in it I don't know what to do with it when the reasons why such a quick trip your body knows how to bring that stuff back to Baseline very quickly so I don't like a 15-minute trip but it's not it's not bad for you all the time I think it's like many to it's a really powerful thing that's got to be respected it could f*** you up if you're not ready if you have some distorted versions of the world that you're operating under from me one of the things that made me feel like right away one of the first things was realizing how much of like the way I talk about things is like calculated I was like I was trying to figure out like I would say things in a way that I wanted people to say woohee phrase that cool like which I would try hard to impress people with the way I was saying things and is realizing that as I was trying to describe the trip after it was over I was like that's interesting like so that probably leads to a disconnect between me and someone is listening because it's not a hundred percent what's going on in my head it's at least a little bit Showmanship and b******* and it made me realize it in that moment like anything I probably made me a better everything probably better comedian probably maybe better podcast early 2000s so I guess we're looking at like 2002 ish somewhere around then yeah that was like the first time I did it last time I did it was about two years ago but the last time I did it I did the other kind that n n dimethyl treat a little less than two years ago little less than two years ago it was a n n dimethyltryptamine which is that's a different version that's the version of it that's in Ayahuasca the version of there's a bunch of different synopsis and different ways that people try to to get that stuff in their system smoking it is the quickest smoking it gets you you vaporize it and it gets you right to the center of the universe immediately and all those things you know I think man one of the cool things about life like what you're talkin about your journey your journey as a busy as a man your journey as a champion your journey to become better in 2 to show what you're capable of this all of this because no one gets it right you don't just get it right like you f*** it up and you try to do better and you you fail and then you figure out what went wrong and you you just constantly analyze whatever you're doing and obsess on it and you can become better at that thing in through that you can understand that you could be better at anything and I think when you any kind of psychedelic will you have an opportunity get yourself just really look at yourself accurately you're not going to like it but it's going to give you great benefit because it's going to give you your going to be able to see yourself honestly and see whatever those what does don't get mad that you have all these flaws just fix them just fix them to you about to fix him he's not going to get it right in your life and ego still going to hold on your leg and drag you down while you trying to run you know hanging on your ankles are you trying to run Lake Caroline stay the same but you can't say the same and get better the way you get better is to relax and to to realize that you know all your f****** all the fails all that that's not you just cuz you lost a match doesn't mean you're a loser you just lost what you should be happy that you got this opportunity to feel terrible because through that opportunity opportunity feel terrible that's where all the growth comes from if you can survive it some people can survive we all know those guys that were really good in the gym and they had like one or two matches or one or two fights and they just couldn't handle the pressure for whatever reason they couldn't handle the things that went wrong and they just didn't want to do it anymore but they could have been like a world-beater you know everyone knows that guy yeah right and what is wrong with that guy one aspect of your two-part thing you were talking about heart inability right he's got one aspect he's got the ability he's got a missing part and you don't want to look at it cuz if you wanted to look at it he would concentrate entirely on that and he would get better at that but it's hard it's hard to look at yourself psychedelics let you look at yourself like hey stupid what do you mean the last time I did DMT there was a string of Joker's like Jesters with the Bells on dance in front of me going like this f*** you openly mocking me just need that that's good that's good to say it's definitely Stephanie go check lamp big. and he talks about his podcast so many opportunities

fake video that I sent Jamie today these m************ they keep getting me there's a new fake video fake humanoid or robots that kind of resembles something like crazy stuff with guns yeah this one they gave the robot a gun and have him and see if he pulled up Jamie what it what is the gentleman the corridor digital on YouTube is the guys that keep that make a quart of true as a YouTube channel it's not real it looks so real and so the the robot they kick it they hit it with a hockey helmet or a hockey stick rather to the Boston Dynamics is bosstown Boston Dynamics it looks so realistic but here's the thing we're not that far off from this thing out it's not realistic and what kind of movement when not to getting s*** this so there's a lot of movement it does for the purpose of Comedy right like it actually is on purpose trying to look like a human for the comedic internet affect like getting a human is getting pissed off at salon Terminator robot that I put they do have legitimate robots that can do backflips now and do sit for real all of these robots that depending on what we're talking about here but those are remote-controlled and these are single demonstrations that they've perfected so there is really important to distinguish between the body of the robot and the brain of the robot so these bodies unlike anything else I'm like a Roomba on like a drone who can also be very threatening the these body somehow we end up with more files them and they terrify us I don't know what it is I met spotmini in person that was one of the most transformative moments in my life because I know how dumb it is but the experience of it like it's not even a head supposed to be a hand but it looks like a head and it like looking up at me with that hand I was like it was magic it was like it was like Frankenstein coming to life is this moment of creation and what I realize is my own brains from anthropomorphizing the same way you're like looking at these robots and you're thinking these things a terrifying thing that's a threat to humanity or an exciting possibility for Humanity cancel the robots the brains the mind and these robots have very very little intelligence so so in terms of being able to perceive and understand the world very important very important to be learnt to learn about the world from scratch so the terrifying thing is you talked often like with the philosophical kind of notion of Sam Harris talks about exponential Improvement be able to become human level intelligence superhuman level intelligence in a matter of days become more intelligent than that that's all learning process as being able to learn that's the key aspect we're in the very early days of that there's just an idea of your big bang is a funny word for one of the most fundamental ideas and nature of our universe same way self play is a term for I think one of the most important powerful ideas an artificial intelligence that but people are currently working on to self play hey I don't know if you're familiar with a company called deepmind and openai Google deepmind and a game I know your first person shooter guy but Starcraft and Dota 2 so the last year these are what he called them real time strategy I guess in people with millions of dollars in Esports competitions and so openai separately had open at 5 which took on Dota 2 Dota 2 is the computer game based on RS3 that's the most popular esport game and then deepmind took on Starcraft with their Alpha star system and the key amazing thing is there so much Alpha going alphazero that learn to play Go is the mechanism of self play that's the exciting mechanism that I think if we can figure out how to have an impact on more serious problems than games will be transformative okay what is it it's learning from scratch in a competitive environment so thinking of you have two white belts so I could go to jail so you have to wipe both straining against each other and trying to figure out how to beat each other without ever having black mold supervision instructor and so on and slowly getting better that way coming up inventing you moves that way and eventually they they get better and better buy that competitive process that's the machine playing itself without human supervision the interesting thing is there's a lot of cases in which if you set up the competitive environment well enough for those two white balls they'll learn to be black girls they'll learn to be not only black both they'll learn to be better then like exactly the kind of evolution is happening at mamaia right now if you put that a digital space and speed it up you know a million-fold you'll continue to improve because this is one of the things that I think probably translates to AI as it does to Jiu-Jitsu you need more than one opponent like you can't have one but one person training with one person specifically and singularly you're not going to develop the type of game that you need to become a real black belt in Jiu-Jitsu 100% so that's part of the release of this mechanism so imagine you didn't just have white belts you had an opportunity to generate a new random white belt like I like a fat big one little one and all kinds of different one passive one one and then and let them play and then what you find is an get to might be simpler than the general problem for different kind of like Starcraft and so on but there is set of strategies in this giant space these complex hierarchical strategies like high-level strategies in the specifics of different moves that emerge, which you didn't even realize it existed and that require you start with a huge amounts of random initial States like the the fat person the skinny person aggressive person so on and then you also keep injecting Randomness in the system so you discover new ideas so you know when you reach purple belt you don't continue with those same people you start your own squeeze start like you start expanding to totally random new ideas and expanding this way and will you find out if there's totally surprising to human beings like in the game of chess during the game of Go in the game Starcraft these lists of play mechanism can do what to the Bay I people have dreamed of which is be creative great totally new behaviors totally new strategies that are surprising to human experts that's why I was so astounding to them right because it's such a complex games yard game and and it's able to walk the first astounding thing is able to beat the world champion totally new ideas that have I'm not good enough adjuster go to understand the newness of them but Grandmasters talk about the Way Alpharetta Alphas gyro plays chess and they say there's a lot of brilliant interesting ideas there like a very counterintuitive ideas and that's such a and that's all the first breakthroughs didn't have as much self play they were trained on human experts but alphazero and Alpha star and openai five these systems are all fundamentally self play meaning no human supervision starting from scratch so no black all the stuff you just and that means so they learning from scratch that's the that's accept me papi I'll get you that that's a process from zero you can get the super human-level intelligence in a particular task in a matter of days. That's that's super powerful super exciting super terrifying if that's kind of about the the challenges we don't know how to do that in the physical space in space of robots there's something fundamentally different about being able to perceive to understand this environment to do common sense reasoning the thing we really take for granted is our ability to reason about the physics of the world about the fact that things weigh things that you can stack things on top of each other the fact that some things are hard some things are soft and things are painful when you talk all that like there seems to be a giant Wikipedia inside our brain of like comments on dumb logic that's very tough to build up that this yeah that's that's seems to be an exceptionally difficult learning problem that will have to solve in order to achieve even the same kind of physical movement behavior that was on those videos and then on top of that to have the ethical Bean the that not the ethical sort of the objective the complex strategies involved in first following orders and then getting frustrated and then shooting everybody that's an exceptionally difficult thing to arrive at because ultimately these systems operator unsend a set of objectives and what a lot of people that think about artificial general intelligence say the objectives we need to inject me systems that they're trained on need to have one uncertainty so they should always doubt themselves just like if you want to be a good black belt you should always be so do always open mind instead of relax always need to learn techniques it's okay to get submitted so always always have a degree of uncertainty about your worldview the kind of thing with criticized Twitter outrage mods for not having so having uncertainty and the other thing is always have a place where there should be human supervision I think I just I think we have good mechanisms for that and place that I think I am very optimistic about where these kinds of learning systems and take us exciting thing is Boston thing yet or terrifying depending on whether you think I'm a trustworthy human being but the Boston Dynamics is not opening up their platform so they're working with a few people I'm trying to make quite busy these days I'll try to make make it happen to work with them to build stuff on top of the platform to the same referring to spot mini as a platform for this robot is this dumb it's like a room but it's a dumb mechanistic thing that can move for you but you can build you can add a brain on top of it so you can make it learn you can make it see the world and so on that's all extra that's not what Boston Dynamics offers they want to work with people like me to add that Cannon capability and that's exciting start to add interesting learning capabilities that's all I mean I mean I have to retract my words about how far away we are with the capabilities of these robots once you now open up to the Internet so I was speaking to Boston Dynamics I think they're solving the really hard robotics problem but once you open it up to the huge world the researchers are doing machine learning at 10 and doing computer vision and doing a research the kind of capabilities that my add to these robots mites Dallas where people are concerned right the big leaves the big sort of just not being aware of the consequences of these big leaves and once you let the genie out of the bottle you can never put it back right the genie and the stuff play mechanism where you grow from 0 to becoming world-class yes player that's that's the genie being out of the bottle just not being aware of the consequences of these big leaves and once you let the genie out of the bottle you can never put it back right the genie and the stuff play mechanism where you grow from 0 to becoming world-class yes player that's that's the genie being out of the bottle

also on the podcast just like you got just to talk to you I must meet him talk to him in person and realize that there is you know this people in this world they can make the impossible happen so he is a legit engineering designer which is like a pleasure for me if you see elves talk to Eric Schmidt the CEOs and their little bit more business-oriented Elan is really really focused on the fundament like the first principles to like the physics level of the problems of being solved was that SpaceX with the fundamentals of rock and reusable rockets and and you know going into deep space and colonize Mars what does that Senora link for the getting to the core the fundamentals of what it's like to have a computer communicate with the human brain and will Tesla on the batteries saying he he threw away a lot of the conventional thinking about what's required to build first of all an appealing car electric car but also one that says a long-range that's something I don't know as much about but they're on the AI side just I mean he boldly said from scratch we can build a system ourselves in a matter of months now a couple of years that's able to drive a Thomas Lee a most people would laugh at that idea the most robot-assisted know from the DARPA challenges most of the nohar this problem is she said not at all we're going to we're not only going to throw a lidar Justice laser-based sensor I'm going to say cameras only I'm going to use deep learning machine learning which is learning bass system so it's a system that learns from scratch and I'm going to teach it to drive from 8 cameras and so on so just talking to somebody like that was not fact that he thinks like that I think it's just fun to talk to people like that I don't get them off and then say I don't know. This b******* of thinking that this task is impossible let's say why is it impossible is it really impossible you find out when you start to think about most problems from first principles is that it's not actually impossible and then you have to think okay so how do we make it happen how do we create an infrastructure that allows you to learn from huge amounts of data so one of the most revolutionary things that Tesla's doing and hopefully other car companies will be doing is the over-the-air software updates just like the update that you got the fact that just like on your phone you can get updates over time means you can have a learning system I machine learning Basics them they can learn and then deploy the thing I've learned over time and do that Weekly that sounds like maybe trivial but it's nobody else is doing it as completely revolutionary cars once you buy them learn most cars that's learns that that's a huge thing of forget about us a lot about all this stuff just the fact that you can update the software I think it's a revolution the idea and then they're also doing everything else from scratch this is his first principles type of thinking the hardware so the the hardware in your car I don't know when you got the Tesla but they should be hardware version 2 but that Hardware performs was called in French so it's already trained it's already learned its thing and it's just taking in the Raw sensory input and making decisions okay they build that Hardware themselves from scratch again Ball Z move now they're building what they're calling again he's such a troll but they're calling JoJo is the the name of the the specialized hardware for training than you'll know for training the models what training is is the learning side of it they're building their own likes computer Google has a TPU to improve the training that all the nerves all the people like me have been using on for machine learning to train you on that works it's what most also Gamers used to play again but they have a quality that you can train specialized hardware for training you on that works gpus allow you to play video games and train your own that works gpus clean some stuff up to make it more efficient energy efficient more efficient for the kinds of competition you'll know if need Google has them which other companies have them you know most most car companies would be like okay let me partner with somebody else to you from Google to use their TV user use Nvidia gpus that says building from scratch from scratch thinking is it is incredible and the other two things I really like about musk is the hard work we live in the culture like so many people like I often don't sleep I do crazy s*** in terms of just focused stay up nights and fines and I'll often people recommend to me do you know balance is really important and taking a break is important that you terminate yourself you return to with fresh ideas all those things are true sleep is important that the people on the podcast tell you how important sleep is but what most people don't don't advise me is hard work is more important passion is more important all of those things like that should come first and then sleep and Powers it rest and Powers at Rejuvenation Powers especially in the engineering discipline hard work is everything and he's sort of unapologetically about that it's not like come come to us come work with us you'll be a friendly environment with free snacks it's like you're going to work the hardest you've ever worked on whether you agree with him or not on the most important problems of your life okay I like that kind of thinking because it emphasizes the hard work the other part it was interact with that because Mike with you he was very very kind of it was hard to bring it out of them yet in person before that he was very jovial and friendly and Huggy he's great and then once he got on the microphone I was like oh this heavy lifting or brings out of him and then we started drinking oh yeah the thing that's really interesting is he is gone if you look at his biography like the kind of stress he's been under terms of he's been at the brink of losing his his company's several times and he has a child and he can be a good dad while running so many companies because I often wonder about you know the kind of hours I pull I'm doing can I have a family can I really get mad cuz I'd love to be a father and it can I have a family can I be a good person like tonight very very difficult if you're working 18 hours a day yes to give your kids the time that they need but it's possible not not eating out there's always I believe in this in life date in months maybe years they have to do the 18 hours a day but not always this time forever do the Sprint Sprint first of all it's very difficult to find a replacement for the way he thinks right so if he's if he's a CEO these companies and he's the one who's the Mastermind behind all these things and then he wants to step back finding a commensurate replacement is insanely difficult because most people who would be a potential replacement are already off doing their own s*** and there's not many people like them anything to me is that he is his kind of thinking is a severity I'm not I'm not sure why that is exactly a joke around about it but I think there's a there's a spectrum of evolution and his mind is clearly way more advanced in my mind there's there's something going on in his mind in terms of his attraction to engineering issues solutions to Globe problems solutions to traffic problems pollution problems all the all the things that he's the internet was trying to put his trying to give the world internet and he's got all these things going simultaneously and one things that I got out of eye when I was talking to him was that he almost has a hard time containing these ideas that are just pouring out of his head like a raging River like he's trying to capture handfuls of water and is Raging River of ideas is going through you know when he described his childhood that he thought that everybody was like that and then as he got older I thought he was insane yeah I can relate to that I'm trying to learn how to talk but have trouble talking because it's like a million ideas running in my head again using you say out immediately start disease like weird tension that go off and I want to start thinking about them the comfort is I'm just surprised that a CEO is able to continue being that kind of puzzle solver like you put a tweet up and I think it was 2006 and then is essentially done all those things he's done all those things now the thing is most people a lot of people love but there's a quite a large community of people that don't love him so much I don't know anybody great I don't I don't know if that's always the case when is it not the case accomplishes many things that guy does where everybody loves them it's a difficult I mean I'm not a historian Steve Jobs terrible example so many people hated that guy people that were engineers under him they said it was horrible and mean and it is required so much would scream if people insult them and you know he had these ideas in his head that he needed to get done and if you couldn't work the hours that you needed to do what he wanted to to accomplish and who treat me like s*** yeah you're right I think like with all people like that like we Steve Jobs and was he when he dies people you'll remember the greatness right so that's just sad that you can't celebrate that Carly but I do think there's one particular aspect of his personality that I also share that pisses people off really bad which is like you said he had a plan but he's late on that plan he's promising things and that really I don't know if it actually angers people or if people are you don't like you use that as a thing to say why they don't like you but it's certainly a thing that people say a lot and but I think that's an essential element of doing extremely difficult things is over promising and trying to over deliver that's the whole point is a year 2 years people pay full price for that Roadster like you going to live at a time so you paid a quarter of a million dollars for a car that's essentially vaporware but the thing is I don't know there's a bunch of financial people to get like me boring thing ever in people it's it's a guy says gambling and so you trying to say you're an expert investing in the stock market that I got blocked I remove those people from my life because they don't say anything interesting ideas but yes that's that's a really important but if you're commenting on the fundamentals of engineering problems that real Engineers are trying to solve that's not had to me the so it's that kind of stuff upsets I think Financial folks but the beautiful thing is when you have people buy vaporware and you bring that vaporware to reality that's the amazing thing that's will definitely bring that Road to Reality he doesn't die that Roadster will happen if he dies out now Cybertron lives long enough you better believe there's humans being put on Mars whether it's him or he gets everybody else

research done on making artificial insects that have like little cameras inside of them that look like like a dragonfly or some some sort of bug they fly around and they can feel things and the thing that terrifies a lot of people is going more of microscopic sand that more like robots inside the body that's help you clear the seasons go on certain things at the nanoscale then they if they learn they can be pretty dumb butt on a mass scale do you have to be intelligent to destroy all of human civilization so about this artificial intelligence stuff that everybody seems to the ultimate end of the line but what Sam Harris is terrified of is it becoming sentient and it making its own decisions and deciding that we don't need people that's what it was really scared of right I am not sure if everybody scared of it yeah they might be I think that's a story that's the most compelling the sexiest story that the Philosopher's side of a Sam Harris is very is very attracted to I am also interested in that story but I think achieving sentience I think that requires also creating Consciousness I think that that requires creating the kind of intelligence and cognition and reasoning abilities that's really really I think we'll create dangerous software-based systems before then they'll be huge threat I think we already have them the YouTube algorithm the Twitter the recommender systems of Twitter and Facebook and YouTube from everything I know having talked to those folks having worked on it the the challenging aspect there is they have the power to control minds The Masks of what the mass population thinks YouTube itself and Twitter itself don't have direct ability to control the algorithm exactly like that one didn't have a way to understand the algorithm until they don't have a way to control it because it but what I mean by control is control it in the way that leads to an aggregate a better civilization meaning like set of Steven Pinker the better angels of our nature should encourage the better sides of ourselves it's very how to control a single algorithm that recommends the the Journey of millions of people through the space of the internet is very difficult to control that and I think that intelligence instilled in those algorithm will have a much more potentially either positive or detrimental effect then sentient Killer Robots I hope we get to sentient killer robot that problem I'm very optimistic about the positive aspects of approaching sentience of approaching general intelligence there's going to be a huge model benefit and I think there will be there's a lot of mechanism can protect against that going wrong just from knowing the we know how to control intelligent systems when they are in a box on their singular system when they're distributed millions of people and there's not a single control point that becomes really difficult and that's that's the worry for me is the distributed nature of dumb algorithms on every single phone to serve controlling the behavior adjusting the behavior adjusting The Learning Journey of different individuals so like to me the biggest worry in the most exciting things recommender systems what they're called at Twitter and Facebook at YouTube YouTube that one that one has just like I think you mentioned there's something special about videos in terms of educating and sometimes indoctrinated and YouTube has the hardest time I mean they have such a difficult problem on their hands in terms of in terms of that recommendation because they don't this is a this is a machine learning problem but knowing the contents of tweet is much easier than knowing the contents of videos like we are all going was a really dumb in terms of being able to watch a video understand what's being talked about all its look all you did was looking at it the title and the description and that's it mostly the title is It's like basically keyword searching and it's looking at the at the clicking viewing behavior of the different people so like it figures out that the Flat Earth supporters enjoy these kinds of videos of corn different kind of cluster and noodle makes decision based on that by the way it seems to make definitive decisions about it doesn't like Flat Earth YouTube I think well YouTube in particular are there trying to do something about the influx of conspiracy theory videos and the indoctrination aspect of them that one of the things about videos is like say if someone makes a video and and they speak eloquently and articulately but they're wrong about everything they're saying they don't understand the science safety talking about artificial intelligence today they're saying something about things that you are an expert in there they could without being checked without someone like you in the room that says that's not possible because of X Y and Z without that they can just keep talking so one of the things they do whether it's about Flat Earth or whether it's about dinosaurs being fake or nuclear bombs being fake they can just say these things and they do it with an excellent grasp of the English language right so they said they're very compelling in the way they speak they'll show you pictures and images and if you are not very educated and you don't understand this is nonsense and if you're especially if you're not skeptical you can get rope then you can get roped in really easy and that's problem and it's a problem with some of the people that work in these platforms their children indoctrinated and they get angry their children get indoctrinated now what's interesting is they get indoctrinated also with right-wing ideology and then people get mad that they're indoctrinated like Ben Shapiro videos so they will get pissed off at that way but you're okay with left-wing why because your left wing so that becomes like okay what is a problem what's really a problem and what is just something that's opposed your personal ideology and how who gets to make that distinction and that is where the arguments for the First Amendment coming to play like should these social media companies that have massive amounts of power and influence should they be held to the same standards as the first amendment and should these platforms be treated as essentially a town hall like where anyone can speak and there's a you know it at and it's a real problem in that there's not that many of those are real problems the real problem is like Twitter is the place where people go to argue and talk about you and intuitive maybe as a competitor on Facebook but YouTube certainly doesn't have a competitor YouTube doesn't have any competitor I mean there's Vimeo there's a few other platforms but realistically it's YouTube YouTube It's a giant giant platform what is this alphabet reports YouTube ad revenue for the first time video service generated 15.1 billion in 2019 holyshit ad Revenue was supposedly around 500 to 600 million a big difference and what about Facebook Facebook is stupendously valuable probably way higher than that remind McDonald's burgers yesterday. Wright Facebook and Twitter and Instagram pick up paying you I'd like directly but there's a lot of calls to break up Facebook I'm not I mean I'm on Facebook but I'm not on it I don't use it I just it's just connected to my Instagram when I post something on Instagram I post to Facebook as well I don't I never go to Facebook. Joe Rogan Facebook up that's that's a dumpster fire brilliant folks billion dollars is the fourth quarter Jesus Christ just a fourth-quarter the majority of which were generated through advertisement company now over 7 million active advertises on Facebook during the third quarter of 2019 and probably also has an Instagram that thing with YouTubers just YouTube not Google YouTube premium General open in the research Google research Google brain Google deepmind doing open in research like they're not doing the add stuff they're really trying to build its if that's a cool thing about these companies having a lot of cash is they can bring some of the smartest people and let them work on whatever in case it comes up with a cool idea like autonomous vehicles was waymo let's see if we can make this work let's throw some money at it even if it doesn't make any money in the next 5 10 20 years let's make it work that's the positive side of having that kind of money yeah that makes sense that there is as long as they keep doing those kind of things the real concern though is that they're actually severely influencing the Democratic process is difficult I want the wild west Twitter but he doesn't know what he wants he wants a good Twitter he's kind of thinking about wild west he wants his ideas have to one that's filtered in one that's like

that's all so in that sense people that are genuine and have ideas like Andrew Yang is another one she has like this number of ideas I know if you seen like this website I disagree with him on his evaluation of the state of artificial intelligence and Automation in terms of its capabilities and having an impact on the economy it's a tool to describe the concerns the suffering that people go through in terms of in terms of losing dialect of the painted people feeling throughout the country has agreed to take a mechanism he uses to talk to people about the future in that you know there are people that they're well-off like the different tech companies that should also contribute to invest in our community I mean the specifics I want to kind of sit back and relax a little bit it's like when you watch a sci-fi movie and the details are all really bad I want to just a pension or just believe whatever and just enjoy the movie in the same way the stuff he says about why he's not very knowledgeable about Ein automation so it's a little it touches me a little bit the wrong way and we are not as far along that the transformative effects of artificial intelligence in terms of replacing humans in trucking autonomous vehicles something I know a couple things about is not going to be as you know I could speak relatively confident either the revolution autonomous vehicles will be more gradual than Andrew is describing but that's okay good ideas and Ubi nevertheless the universal basic income of some kind of support structure that kind never left could be a very good idea for people that lose their job for people to be Mobile in terms of going for one type of job to another type of jobs and continually learn artificial intelligence in this case I don't think we'll be the enemy will be there could be other things that are a little bit of the the world eating up some of the mechanization of factors and so on you know maybe maybe the the fact that you know the kind of way that Tesla and Elon Musk are approaching the design and Engineering of vehicles that are a little bit more software Centric will change what sort of move some of the job from Detroit Michigan in terms of cars to the Silicon Valley on a different a person would need to be hired to work on cars a little bit more software engineering software Centric versus the sort of Hardcore mechanical engineers more so do you know the different call The Car Guys trucking jobs there's actually a lot of Need for jobs like there's not the truck that that job there's already people leaving that job site it's a really difficult job that doesn't pay as well as it should it's really difficult to train people so on so the impact that he talks about in terms of AI is is a little bit exaggerated but like I said really good ideas he's open-minded terms of I think the nice role of a president is to have ideas like the purple bell one set of inspire people and Inspire Congress to still Implement some of the ideas and be open-minded and not take yourself seriously enough to think that you know all the right answers Andrew Yang Bernie is like that although Bernie's like 78 years old so you know what I didn't know yeah that's so I think Hillary Clinton endorse Bernie and Tulsi gabbard for president reverse endorsement I think she's super insulated I don't I don't think I think she thinks that she can actually hamstring and by saying something like that and she doesn't understand that it just makes people realize the things that they say about her correct Eddie Bravo thinks he's in like Dominican Republic somewhere eating bananas and drinking mai-tais it's a conspiracy on the conspiracy levels deep but ultimately will be correct in terms of the automation timeline do you think that maybe he doesn't know but clearly as much as you know about automation artificial intelligence but do you think that it's possible that you know I think he's looking at a timeline I think he was thinking it within the next 10 years millions and millions of jobs going to be replaced do you think that it's more like 20 years or 30 years but something is a concern is more stretched out for 20-30 years and they'll be they'll be certain key revolutions and those revolutions it's a incorrect word to use but they'll be stretched out over time I think that I found was vehicle Revolution it's something to achieve a scale of millions of vehicles that are fully autonomous he navigating our streets I think is 20-30 years away and it won't be like all of a sudden you'll be gradual lb people like the formal Google self driving car waymo company who is doing a lot of testing Now Incredible Journey a visit them for a day you'll be expanding their efforts slowly they're doing also way more trucks at Thomas Trucking spending their efforts slowly they're doing also way more trucks at Thomas Trucking they already deploying them in Texas I think and then of course Tesla who's this year going to approach a million vehicles and they're trying to achieve full strength self-driving capability at but that's going to be gradual

about Sean O'Malley I'm just I just want to break things to describe somebody like him listen to his interviews and you study these guys nussi work will their mindset isn't were there holes are going to be it's like they had asked him and who you want to dance show on Immokalee want to fight next and he's like no I just want to fight and I just want to fight the best strikers that he never mentioned about I'll take anybody out or take anybody the top 10 or 15 or whatever cuz you're in my opinion hasn't really beat somebody that's like okay man you the real deal even though be wildin he was a container but it's it's been a long time and I hear young kid that's learning to sport while we're watching them on the UFC that's what's crazy about him and you won't you go back to Dana White's Contender show and he was a loser Wilder you know fun to watch but not nearly as sharp and now he's on a completely different level in like that and then just following over the top of the straight right hand catch him slipping I mean fantastic but that's that's the point that I'm trying to get to is it's it's it's a striking thing for him right now you know what I'm saying like there is a hole in your taking it to Deepwater then I'll see you a real colors then I'll be like okay man you are ready to take on anybody in the top imma give you good example Frankie Edgar that was a good example. This Frankie Edgar was just that wrestling was too strong that ground-and-pound was too strong they couldn't keep my phone just couldn't do anything about it and that was a great example that because yeah year was this super flash kick or me or to me as some of the best cake I've ever seen inside the Octagon he threw against BJ's pull up in a fight 360 roundhouse kicked him in the face yeah it was a beast and everybody was like really thinking you know he's on a short path to the title but the big hole was that wrestling that was it was exposed by how Elite Frankie is and how well with nasty Frankie's ground-and-pound is it was a major beat-down you know and that's one of those fights where you watch a guy and you go disguise all about Styles cuz it's all about you know whether he'll give you foot if he found someone that played his game like oh s*** he's good at that game but would Frankie did is just completely impose his game just drag him down and beat him up and then we don't know what would happen with O'Malley when it comes to that but I know who he is as a person and he's working he's working on everything that kid is he's focused as f*** he keeps getting better and better and better come back after 2 years off your 2 years dealing with a bunch of bulshit I forget what he was suspended for I don't remember what it was was it was it marijuana that doesn't make sense anyway I'm interested I don't remember what it was was it was it marijuana that doesn't make sense tainted supplements anyway I'm interested

it's never been more exciting you know it is still guys like Jimmie Rivera still a dangerous dangerous spider is like there's what I'm saying do you think right I was crying I was crying like a baby bunny Senator doing the video and then I was like what am I doing what you did that's what Conner did this is what she also said it was probably the best at it then with the original chill son is the original mean she got to give credit to jail because before chale there was you know I'm going to f*** him up I'm going to kick his ass people we talk s*** but they never talk s*** with it with an Entertainer's Flair which hell did I mean even though you kind of know the channel was in over his head and some of those fights like with Jon Jones real deep feeling he was in over his head with Anderson Silva in the second fight in particular you know I just had a feeling he was in over his head he still talks so much it was so fun made the fight way bigger they should all thank him thank you for what you said about my mother because that's what really sold that fight they all made more money because of him Chicago Bears pillows with your belts and the pillows at EJ's hadn't DJ's head larious the king of cranes bend the knee so what what did your friend that you won't say the person that we could say what it what the name rhymes with after I beat Demetrious Johnson I went to the to the Apex fight with and I happen to be there and randomly and then obviously Dana was at the fights and I pulled a massage I didn't let you know how are you what you want to talk to me so I ended up going from the fights to his office has Fred Ferrari there's new blood and the he told me straight up and I'll just like I have to do something if I don't start speaking up if I don't start being hated like my division never did so I buy it was entertaining it was was so dominant that he heard a division because there's like it gets boring there has to be a storyline storyline two people in the mission wasn't the most personable dude in the world so that took that upon myself when he said that it will I might become with a gimmick you know I was originally supposed to go to the right originally originally supposed to go 235 lb right and 235 lb they were going to strip before my belt as I get to the contract with the original plan for me to go up but then decided to come down and keep the division and kind of fight for it

you do know Henry who don't say if you do decide to not fight again you like I'm done I did what I had to do and Triple C and 2 world titles and Olympic gold medalist my name is Samantha in the history books that's who you are fuckr like name someone has done more name someone won two World titles and a f****** gold medal Olympics wrestling and did it all in the most technical of divisions iPhone to a very secluded group but I'm one of a lot you know but I think you should when you collaborate both of my actors that have been in sports that's where the greatest come out of all time you know comes in and it's a lot but you know part of it is part of the I am telling the truth I don't know what they think it should be GSP ended the conversation some people say you guys must have forgot how good Anderson Silva was when he was in his prime that's true too that's in the conversation to but you are as well man you really are I mean whether you you know it was you were joking around about or not you're in the conversations by the greatest Combat Sports athletes of all time and there's a real good argument that you when you beat the guys who you be potentially beating Demetrious Johnson who Untouchable you know beating Dominick Cruz the way you did which is Dominic Russo is known for not getting hit and you know you hit them and you hit him a lot and then coming back for the Marlin rise V holyshit after that first round to come back and dominate him and just glue yourself to him and the second and then put them away sock man I mean those are pretty pretty powerful accomplishments no doubt about it there's a there's not only the volkanovski fight that that you don't take cuz he's he's not that was tall 6 lb but I wouldn't want to like I would try to do it as natural that possibly can just have a little more mass but that's a big jump yeah it does get dangerous those 45 or some of them are enormous you know but the other one is going to talk with Ryan Garcia fight with boxer you going to box why not why the hell you call me crazy if things are now financially and you know the cars are played right yeah why not atw event I was with them so there's even a potential even crossing over to the WWE when you were talking about possibly boxing I think I think McGregor I think McGregor's Lennon with with Mayweather I think her friend wants to do it then I think it said how much time would you need to prepare for something like that 3 months to about three months three months and like three months at least

pewter yawn vs Jose Aldo for your title to still feel like yours give me the date today give the fight too although even though Mariah's won the decision hasn't real interesting choice isn't it because although I agree with the decision I think our excuse me I agree with all do I think all the one that fight that he was a really close fight but I thought all the one the fight but it was closed it was really close but the fact that the judges gave it to Marlin and then the UFC is like nah player to have Aldo fight. And part of it is because all those and one of the greatest of all-time in 50-degree greatest featherweights of all time how to make sense make sense that make sense for both flights I would happy I'd be happy if Marlon fought. John for the title or be happy if I'll do farm I'd be happy if Marlon and Aldo fight again like this great fights in that division now that you've stepped down computer it was Peter for a while we're supposed to call Peter and then they said No it's it's like fate or you know they tore his real name's not fade are steel door play fights guy like you avoid fights a guy like Aldo that's only find out what's up so we know he's really good you know the weight beat up Uriah is it's not just that he beat him he beat him up and you know your eyes is always going to be a tough out he's a tough guy that you saw the super skilled super Seasons guy your eyes been around forever you know he's he's fought so many good guys who knows how to survive and beat him up like that wow strongman he's f****** strong like he's got weirdo Russian strength you know he is dangerous he's got power throws knees you don't have to clench up dangerous when I see someone that's that's what I have technical when I see a guy like that is like he's technically has Mouse and what's the most tender going to have mouses like that's that's what I have and I can recognize a good way of putting it with Mike Tyson McCall bad intentions

10 years might have different hasn't been you know what I'm saying is last 10 months last 10 weeks things have been crazy so weird time to be alive things are happening very rapidly from the invention of the cell phone to social media to the ability to share videos and for people to get information for people to find out about world events for people to get together and then try to make change it's just a different world it's different world in good ways and bad ways it's a different world people more disconnected than ever while being more connected than ever was a lot of things five things about this life that are really weird you think I was getting better I have hope man when I see like yesterday there was part of the George Floyd protest in downtown LA Hadfield this is the craziest picture man you see the picture of the street filled with people all nonviolent so all the Looting and all that seems to have stopped and now the people that remains seems to be they seem to be dedicated to change in a way that I can't remember anything like this in my life I think this is is has a real disc is this man's murder has a real chance of changing the world and changing America for sure I think it really does it has a chance and then further Bridging the Divide between people and 2 to get people to look at things in a in a better way like look how many people got together for this look at me when it's it's had the real bad parts in the beginning with the Looting but I don't think there can I don't think this the same people I think those are people that are broke cuz covid-19 them locked up in the f****** house for months at a time without any ability to make any money and I think PeopleSoft free s*** and then everything got wild and it was jumping off and people smashing windows and a lot of people just do s*** that's what I think but I don't think that's the same thing that's happening I think that's happening along with this tap stand about the protests protest is pretty f****** amazing when you when you think that this in our time we've never had a Moment Like This were literally the whole country is getting together and saying things have to change and stop there be funding the Minneapolis Police Department man what what about rasoul after the Rodney King s*** but the thing about the Rodney King ship was it was confined to La you know if people weren't right riding about Ronnie King in New York it was just an LA thing these rights were all over the country man I mean the Freddy what happened is was that guy's name in Baltimore Freddie gray yeah that was the last big when I remember that was about 5 and when Freddie gray was killed by the cops they went crazy in Baltimore and let everything on fire and smashed everything but it was still just Baltimore you know with George Floyd it's the whole country still aren't back at work right so they're broke and their f***** and this is a chance to steal some s*** I don't condone it I don't condone it but I saw a lot of good looks like high school kids running out of those things holding boxes of sneakers like they just were taking advantage of free s*** and yeah there's some bad people in there to do some criminals in there to do some people that you know church is on fire dozen people did some horrible s*** but I think the whole it's not connected to that that's just some people that did some s*** taking advantage of a moment in time where everything went haywire but the people that are Marching to doing it very peacefully these enormous groups I think it's got a real chance of being something that that changes the way cops interact with people get a real chance cuz it's so big you're a little kid and then all the sudden there's like a mosh pit Nick she know you're freaking near you know you're you're being suffocated but I'll buy everybody's way like that feeling like these cops you think you know sometimes the people that are being arrested there they're fighting through that's a lot of pressure on the neck or that's a lot of pressure on the stomach I was lying down when he had to Shin on his neck he was lying with his neck against like this drain so this is like this like cement drain area and his neck is right there so his shin is on the top of his neck and then the drain areas the bottom it's f****** horrible it's horrible to watch man it's so you watching. Getting tortured to death but you something has to be done and I don't think it's the fun the police I think it's definitely get rid of anybody like that guy and it's retrain them and train them with where the realize it like there's a chance to does a chance to do this correctly you you have an amazing job being a police officer is is incredible responsibility and it takes an incredibly powerful person to do it and not abused the power that you have because people have a tendency when someone says why do I have to do that cuz I f****** told you I'm the cops like that's what they're doing when they have that kind of power just go to it right away it's you get you need exceptional people and there's a lot of people that are exceptional and some of those become cops and you see these non exceptional people who are cops who abused the f*** out of the power that there they've been given that's a problem I don't think the problem is that we don't need cops like Jesus Christ as soon as breaking your house you want to be able to call the cops if you got a real problem in your life and you know there's something going wrong you want to be able to call the cops if they have the cops have to have a better relationship with the people in their communities David given that's a problem I don't think the problem is that we don't need cops like Jesus Christ of someone breaking in your house you want to be able to call the cops if you got a real problem in your life and you know there's something going wrong you want to be able to call the cops if they have the cops have to have a better relationship with the people in their communities

alcohol can cross the cell membrane in this absorbs very easily into the human body oh how about this my friend his wife is a school teacher in Utah and they have a problem in middle school cuz kids are taking tampons and they're soaking them in rubbing alcohol and stuff them up their assholes and then getting high didn't and so they have problem in a f****** school when kids are putting tampons dipping them in rubbing alcohol and it definitely up there by and by the way I don't have any million to listen as you have how many people are now going to do that a lot 40 40 40 40 nice and cool and feels good thing a little bit

have you seen these bricks that people been finding at all these different sites were people are protesting these organize stacks of bricks know that that's the question is it someone who wants someone to throw a brick so that they can impart martial law like what is it yeah you know my my brain always goes to conspiratorial appear throughout major protest cities I mean these are the ones that don't have a reason to be there Jamie I'm going to send you this video that I already sent me because this is all your drama to Bud so they left an old shity police car out there and then on top of that this this is not okay Jamie I'm here dropping to you right now so this old shity police car and then these three have all these protesters and then these three people move in a very organized fashion and there's a a guy who made a video about it between the video Jamie where the guy breaks down these at the end that I'll send you the video cuz what's up yeah okay put it up on the screen so these random pallets of bricks this is very organized it's on Ventura Boulevard out here in LA or in North Hollywood so these pallets of bricks or just sitting there like this what you just like like Riot supplies doing this this is very organized I mean many stacks of these bricks it's very anti Anarchist what is organized but I mean was fuel for Anarchy but I just I wonder like look at this or do you think do you think I mean here's another theory could be possibly performance art I mean I mean and performance artists like go to that length but that's very very organized and very ominous very weird I mean I hope that those are reported that the police like pick them up is happening that's promising is it these are provocateurs are getting caught by actual black lives matter protest and grabbing them and these assholes are breaking windows and spray paint thing like they're grabbing these people to hate f*** and they're turning these people in like these people are smashing things the Lord real change he mandated that nursing homes take back in and 43% of coronavirus at the nursing home take back in recovering covid-19. And he happens that he got immuno million-dollar + campaign check for his re-election through Affiliated committee before he got re-elected and so he also put made sure to put into place of liability for all their executives if they don't do a good job they can't be held liable and that data shows is correlated with increased covet fashion infection rates because they know that they're going to be held responsible so there's a lower threshold there so there were very specific decisions that were really bad and fueled the worst outbreak in the entire country but because he can get on TV and give a command and press conference that's all people really care about minute to the nursing homes because his brother on CNN is prime time for Chris Cuomo and they do these ridiculous interviews where they like joke around about how big his nose is rather than asking questions like that and look and be one thing if you were going to your brother on once or twice but no night after night after night it's the show of the two brothers chumming it up what people are dying this is a politician supposed to be held to account that is supposed to be other joking about the size of a nose and a swab well there are like literally thousands of elderly people who died because explicitly because of his decision now we're not saying the decision and on the right there total Hypocrites to Fox News picks it up with this like liability story and how he gets this through me while Mitch McConnell's browsing the same thing at a national level and they're like a okay with that. I mean a central concept of the show a big big problem again going back to this moment that we're living in because no one trusts anyone and for good reason even if you are an MSNBC water and you know it and you love it and you love Rachel Maddow and whatever know you're getting spun you know that they're picking certain stories that are going to like Peak your interest Fox News The End conclusion of every new story cannot be Ergo Democrats are evil and right to do what they want to do I don't know if they're right I don't know if we have to inform people and then we have to give them the ability to make decisions and I don't know if you're right I don't know if I'm right I'm right I'm scared you're scared yeah for what could you imagine what you're saying everyday I love you I love what's happening right now Frank's different different ideas different perspective different biases not a lot of people were serving this out of pasta that I wanted to serve as I started giving it away like a gateway drug learn how to make pasta I mean it's an apprenticeship you have to put yourself in the in the students chair and and be a sponge I didn't speak any and not a lick of Italian but the times are very expressive so you're able to communicate through just being Italian I guess and I spent three months you know 6 days a week 10 hours a day just making pasta. same to me things you just you just take for granted oh here is a plate of pasta like the what what is involved in learning how to make it that good it's not just ingredients when people sit down at a at a restaurant people aren't just paying for for the experience of sitting there and the cost of food there they're paying for the experience of the people that are making the food that's a big part of it that's the way that I look at it and 11 years of pasta by hand there's a lot of depth at some of the younger guys just aren't willing to pay the time cost and a lot of the younger Cooks out there they bounced around from job to job six months here three months here and they think that they've mastered it but there's just no depth there's no depth you're not thinking that each one was like pressed out by hands like extremely labor-intensive and a lot of people when we were opening Evan did have his own restaurant bucato before which was also basically it's focused around pasta as well that's a whole other story but when we were going to open up this restaurant and we put in the middle of the restaurant the temperature controlled pasta lab which is taking up table so if you're a business person a respiratory you say how many tables how much is each table Worth to your your bottom line you're using up that space to put in a space to put in a pasta lab are you crazy also you know when you're thinking about you know training the people and how labor-intensive it is people were saying like we're crazy doing doing this again people and how labor-intensive it is people were saying like we're crazy doing doing this again

you got to know where you're at to a getting fired for me we got kicked off Opie and Anthony in 2002 best thing that ever happened to me because it showed me they could all be taken away from you so long before this whole culture of just cancel cultural this s*** happen I had had that moment of life is good and then you're out have the people and they had sex in so that was 2 years off the air but that show me that they can take anything at anytime so I've never thought I was Irreplaceable I never think I'm I got it forever anything I have I know it can be f****** yanked immediately can that was a weird one to maybe just a big thing was that these people had sex in Catholic Cathedral that was the reason why they got fired right cuz he didn't ask these people to do it in there did they Rochester was known like you would get what they call a two-point conversion if you had anal like it was all these weird thing and it was a bad move to go in the same path you in the same Pat's and there was an arrest arrest it became real and it was so avoidable on so many levels we're talking about Ari before the podcast where it's you do things you're not supposed to do so people go I can't believe you're doing that and then this is like the real to that there's a thrill to it and then what happens if you have to keep upping it have to keep popping it and it's almost like you get a fear like if I don't top last time the people who like me or no longer going to like me I'm going to lose this momentum have picked up you become afraid that the people who like you you're a fraud you're not doing what we want you to do you keep topping yourself and keep topping yourself the kid who eats bugs and you don't I mean you don't then he's eating a roach and the next thing you know he's f****** easy doing this because he he's afraid of not topping himself and all the sudden being ignored Bright Like Pat like the intern Pat vomit keep he was at literally an indestructible f****** man are you the type of mentality you want oh yeah for sure you want to get him when he's 18 and turn him into a full six outage yeah what is he doing these days I don't know I don't know what about Pat from Moonachie there's a couple of the people in the studio as well as one of my most fun times ever on the radio never ever we're in Opie and Anthony the in the studio the floor was covered in plastic bags because they had an opening at open Anthony had in eggnog eating contest and everyone would throw up there was you get there certain level of eggnog we just couldn't take anymore and Pat had to throw up because he was diabetic so he should have been drinking that anyway shouldn't drink gallons and cons of eggnog and when he threw it up we said like he was ready to go and I said let's get Pat Duffy to lean his head without your suggestion over this garbage pail and pappu knockout blows like a fountain like the most insane Stephen King like that movie Stand By Me No More the kids out of the pie eating contest and kids throwing up all over the body that's what it was like literally didn't seem humanly possible that a person could have that much fluid in their body and then when he was injecting it was like a cartoon he's doing it in Pat's face insects 2007-2017 I can't believe I forgot it was there that day glad you were part of right after that I was happy I got to see that was so fun that show when it was in its prime when he was in his Peak was so fun and it was it was a hang and it really influence in a lot of ways the way I do podcast because it's there's no structure it's just hanging out with funny people just talking about Jeff yeah just bullshiting river that goes It goes it is only go somewhere I mean you can tell me a conversation is always going to flow somewhere exactly controlled and regimented and jokes you know one of those and I go I don't do that I don't not going to do that and like we need subjects like the guy was like pissy with me yeah it's hard to do cuz you feel embarrassed if it's foggy feel just feel dirty like when someone's doing your bit and you know you're doing in there and you know you would talk to the guys and you would kind of working your bits did it everybody did their bets yeah I guess there was a part of it but I was never good at it well cuz your authentic but Opie and Anthony was the first to meet Lee Howard show was much more control do you know how it's behind the mixer he's kind of controlling everything there's a certain amount of time that he would talk to you and then other people come in and then you know he had like a more more of a structure where is Owen a you would go in there and Anthony have a gun and f****** you know I'll be behind the mixer just was her is chaos go on different, come filtering in and you know maybe I mistyped marionberry walked in yeah and he was going on sway next door and we he was like a little out of it and loopy and we f****** we just hijacked lens any kind of walked in like he had no idea who we were was really are counted I knew he was going to leave soon so I immediately started asking about crack pipe f*** you talking about man in the public but there was a new station they were talking about two people about his rest and all the stuff and they interviewed this guy goes, come on man everybody smokes a little crack every now and then everybody smokes a little crack every now and then great Bears wasn't him that he wasn't saying that someone else about him okay and defensive him pylori who was him say that that would be hilarious him say that that would be hilarious that was another guy that was on the street who is alike LOL

if someone orders a steak are you cooking steak or you sending them sending them pre-packaged crab act steaks with instructions and you know everybody likes their steak cooked differently so give General guidelines and pro tips of how to rest and you know high heat on high heat and then just intervals high heat take it off let it rest high heat take it off before you cook more especially the T-Bones so when you do that so you're you're not doing it in one shot you're kicking it a little bit and then letting it run up to an hour to cook like a 35 Oz T-Bone real absolutely bring up the temperature very slow and gradual cuz if that's all you got in restaurants high heat low and slow stupidly for brazing but if you're dealing with dry heat it should be balanced should be quick and then let it rest so she did Teavana go to start the T-bone on the actual bone ride so vertical started on your feet so if you just throw the T-bone on side and then sign it part that's connected to that actual T-Bone the separation phone it's going to be raw and everything else going to be medium or medium rare but you started on the bone the heat is gently radiator through the meat so Bistecca Fiorentina the master is Dario Dario cecchini one of the most famous butchers in all of Italy he quotes Dante's f****** Maniac but 2 years ago I'm so happy but he starts the T-bone on the bone so he's so you learn from him you learn the fundamentals and then throughout your career you upgrade those fundamentals with new and relevant techniques or loss or whatever cookies the same thing you get a foundation and then you upgrade noon relevant techniques and so are you using a grill that uses wood are you cooking on wood they were cooking on the California almond and and Whiteoak almond almond almond for the smoke is it it'll go to fire like that cuz it's saturated with almond oil and then oak for long and slow cooking sets burn superhot so they the Almond Burns really quick and the oak Bruns very slow and so you put different Woods in four different times like you started off with you on our with almond and then we add Oak and then we add almond and then we had coconuts just kind of fire maintenance is 90% of wood fire cooking so it's just about how hot it burns in the distance how evenly dispersed the heat is we'll have a cool side and hot side and then Fireside all within like a you know to square feet is there images of your grill set up online the only way you cook steak you prefer cooking over wood or the design of Felix the actual shoe box of the kitchen that we have is really the design was based on the restrictions of the size so we've crammed the hell of a lot into I think it's just just under 220 square feet some like that there's a f****** Pizza Oven in there as Wood Fired Grill are you cooking 500 meals tonight in the I think top-end is like 350 350 people so few times that by three or four different different plates per person wow someone built for Speed I build restaurants for Speed

put together is pretty remarkable cuz thank you the food they are so good it's it's kind of ridiculous like your pastas got Voodoo in it don't know what you're doing and I guess it's because it's handmade right cuz I want the first time my wife and I ate there we sat right next to that open area where you can watch you you guys make the last up and it's such a painstaking process and you realize you really truly appreciate that it's an art form you know like making stuff like that like cutting no corners making it as good as it could possibly taste without that mean that's the ultimate goal is to create that connection between pasta maker and someone who's eating the pasta like if you look through the glass and you see a pistachio or pasta in there so you know there and you looked on your plate and there's like a hundred and six pieces in your pipe you like f*** this guy is rapping just for me that's a connection and once you get it sometimes I get it but this is something different at this is this is craft this is tradition this is continuing this conversation of that's been passed down from generation to generation and all I'm doing all we're doing it at Felix is just a small in a massive wheel of Italian culinary Traditions just exactly how long to cook it to which is amazing like that you must be experience right is the right amount of two specific cuz I cook pasta very different in Naples versus Rome forces bolonia it's just preference is based on tradition and the thing is this authenticity is very personal write your mom makes macaroni and cheese with Velveeta my mom makes macaroni and cheese with Tillamook Cheddar that s***'s authentic to me it may not be authentic to you Italy different but the differences and the diversity are so specific not only Parisian but town and then house to house and it's it's been that way for thousands of years that's why I think Italian food next to Chinese food is the most diverse there is and you can literally study your whole life and not even scratch the surface they know Evan is an absolute Master you know he's Evans obviously not Italian but has studied all over Italy and it's the really the dying art of handmade pasta and Evan is a custodian of keeping this art alive like he's am I so he's unbelievable Wheaton General is that American wheat is a different kind of weed that is a different kind of weed it's also process completely different I don't I don't use a lot of American we just because it's it's just been manipulated so much and a lot of the the digestibility of in my opinion people are going to freak out but in my opinion the amount of work that goes into denaturing postinor to get it flat via machine has a lot with its digestibility just like sourdough bread is more digestible because it's broken down a different way but handmade pasta is less manipulated then mushy make pasta in my opinion so also the the types of weed the amount of wheat germ attended the nutritional value at all has to do with those elements within the in the flower and to be honest like I've developed a gluten intolerance because I've been Bree raw flour for the past Dino 12 years as soon as I stepped foot in the lab and I start rolling us for you my stomach's just start it's acid straight up that's crazy so you've developed an intolerance. So do you wear a mask I do not Jethro I have another friend who also has a kouzoku calamari who is instrumental in my kind of understanding of of modern pasta I met him and bologna has a Japanese guy who has a lab in Tokyo called base and he has the same thing he wears a mask all the time because she's just breathing in raw flour all day given the painter things tubes that be so weird. Like I'm not eating that f****** pasta Arnold for me he enjoyed before you had the really good pasta it's like it's right it's like having water in your ear and Pasta in North America whatsoever I don't need fresh pasta North America I only eat pasta in Italy I dry pasta in America most people don't know what they're doing but it's got to be some people other than. even fewer people who know how to make pasta with the mozzarella with just the long rolling pin even fewer and when I started I started doing this 11 years ago there was nobody there was nobody I checked you know I moved Abalone in 2007 tail and a 2007 and started this journey with my Maestro Alessandra spiess Neolithic Escuela Velineon same and she kind of opened up the door for me to start seeking out other pasta maker straw Italy when I came back and I I ran a restaurant called Rustic Canyon for about 4 years and you know not a lot of people were serving this out of pasta that I wanted to serve as I started giving it away like a gateway drug I was just extending tables for free I mean it's an apprenticeship you have to put yourself in the in the student's chair and and be a sponge I didn't speak any and not a lick of Italian but the Italians are very expressive so you're able to communicate through just being Italian I guess and I spent three months you know 6 days a week 10 hours a day just making pasta. oh here is a plate of pasta like two what what is involved in learning how to make it that good it's not just ingredients when people sit down at a at a restaurant people aren't just paying for for the experience of sitting there and the cost of food there they're paying for the experience of the people that are making the food that's a big part of its way that I look at it and 11 years of making pasta by hand there's a lot of depth at some of the younger guys just aren't willing to pay the time cost and a lot of the younger Cooks out there they bounced around from job to job six months here three months here and they think that they mastered it but there's just no depth there's no depth my hands looks like extremely labor-intensive it a lot of people when we were opening Evan did have his own restaurant bucato before which was also basically it's focused around pasta as well that's a whole other story but when we were going to open up this restaurant and we put in the middle of the restaurant the temperature controlled pasta lab which is taking up table so if you're a business person a respiratory you say how many tables could fit in there how much is each table Worth to your bottom line you're using up that space to put in a space to put in a pasta lab are you crazy also you know when you're thinking about you know training the people and how labor-intensive it is people were saying like we're crazy doing doing this again the people and how labor-intensive it is people were saying like we're crazy doing doing this again

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part of that but the thing is that wouldn't explain why Trump has been skeptical of the Global Financial System since like 1978 there's that old clip of him on Oprah and like 1980s one of my friends I mean I think that's another one where he's always kind of been there he's always had the instant I mean His Real Genius was looking at what did the base of the Republican Party actually want they want better trade deals and they want less immigration and for decades now all the professional has been able to give them as it will cut your taxes that's a priority it'll never actually happen and then that is that vote for us because we're good on abortion and we're good on gun control and that wasn't enough for a lot of people and you can that's what I meant about making it the cenacle choice when you adjust your position on immigration in on trade you in all of these Obama Trump voters all throughout the Midwest and you become the present I mean and even then I'm not saying it was enough to realign more to the issues of what I'm talking about but to say that it's all just ate is just his driving force you see the way he interacted with him there isn't condensed ideology behind what he is otherwise you wouldn't have run the way was he wouldn't have had those positions for such a long time on the core issues that actually matter to why he was elected and so the real issue and I think the criticism of valid criticism is he wasn't able to enact those political instincts into the actual Staffing of the White House cuz in the White House Personnel policy and there's a great great book all the years of Lyndon Johnson then Robert and Carolyn best biographies of all time, Corcoran who was FDR's kind of right-hand man he's like what is a government government's not one man they all have to be United in the common purpose nor to actually get it done in a bureaucracy the truth is the RNC and all these professional right-wingers the conservative establishment they were the thousand and so that's why you get something like that text tax cuts and jobs Act is because a guy like you Paul Ryan has been fantasizing about pushing that for such a long time with Trump on trade blatantly disagree agree with Trump on immigration completely located it matters a lot who the deputy secretary of Commerce is like you and I aren't going to know that person's name that person CertiFit certifies like steel tariffs economic response were corporate CEOs Wall Street Executives like that's who he went to to get his advice that's who I thought he trusted and that's how you end up you know floating ideas like we're going to have a capital gains tax cut as a response to crisis or we're going to have a payroll tax cut which okay if you have a range of responses maybe that's part of it but when you've got 40 million people aren't on a payroll anymore that's not going to do a whole heck of a lot of good so I just don't see that there's any maybe he has the ideology but doesn't really matter if you're not willing to push for if you're not letting you see who's organized in the town because immediately once this crisis head immediately the first trilly multitrillion-dollar Bill gets passed very very quickly with all the goodies for big business the stuff that was custom-written every other goodies there was a massive tax break for Real Estate developers organized and ready to go in a crisis and so they basically one I mean they rolled everyone they tied the little bit of paltry small business and workers stuff to the massive corporate peace and held the workers and the small businesses hostage and so if you vote don't vote for it and you're voting against workers and it was all ready to go like that and that is what you were overcoming in the town that sort of bipartisan 9809 you talking about Trump and his history of understanding trade and business decisions I think it's all stuff that benefited him that's why I was concentrating on them and I think now you're dealing with him spread so thin because now he has to deal with the environment it is to deal with the international politics and there's so much and it that's why you catch him nothing what you said to that he lives up the ID I mean I think that's very true and he's always in the moment right he famously said lives off of his instincts and Trust his instincts which is great but he had preparation when he was dealing with those things before we talked about this before his present that's why I had a deeper understanding of it because they meant something to him yeah but now you're dealing with the entire broad spectrum of duties of being the president and he says s*** like inject people with Lysol in my sick dogs on protesters are you still planning so he's that guy now but he's that guy with global thermonuclear consequences and it's even more to the point on that which is that when you don't have this is this is another kind of establishment always wins point is that when you don't have very firm beliefs on cuz like trade and immigration are two things like hundreds of billions of dollars behind the neoliberal around how it should be like what you were saying on the environment or or anything else that is how they win because stat status quo always continues in DC unless you make the very concerted effort of like know you are not doing this anymore and I'm appointing your boss and your boss's boss in your boss's boss's boss's boss in order to make sure that you don't actually do that that's that's actually what the hardest way to fight back if you actually need a coherent ideology on every single one of these things but more important to understand government works and I think that's so many people don't seem to grasp that is not just like putting a guy in the Oval Office like The Look by the time its reach the Oval Office it's so f***** right that 10 levels down they would have made a decision so that's the power right like you got to make sure that you're what you want is being reflected 10 layers down in the bureaucracy and you look at the way you are within the bureaucracy behaved and you can just see like how arrogant some of the people within the bureaucracy behave just blatantly disregarding will of a president or blatantly just thinking he's a legitimate delegitimize him and from that perspective that's f****** scary because they're not even accountable to the person that we all voted for

and I agree is it Law & Order needs to be re-established and reasons why I think that needs to be re-established has it there's a fire of Consciousness and this fire is you're allowed to loot and smash and steal and people are doing that now and I don't think they're doing it in the memory of George Floyd and I think you got to put that fire out because once you allow people to do it like the Blasio did New York City and force the police to stand back people know they can get away with it I've seen some horrific things people running over people with cars and smashing into buildings and it's f****** Madness when Madness happens you have to Crackdown you have to do something about it that's where I support whether it's the National Guard or it's a police have the resources used the police but something has to be done when you saying like President Trump be escalating on television that is not going to do a goddamn thing about those kids smashing windows it's not going to change their attitude they're not watching the news they're not paying attention they know that they have a very simplistic perspective George Floyd this is bad black lives chaos smash that window take that shitt they're not going to say hey but I'm not going to do that anymore then deescalate in the f****** people knocking them over it's crazy like a breakdown of a society are broke you can't pay for food you can't pay your mortgage you can't pay your rent and your f***** and there's no job I had it's not like there's anything these kids can go out and do to better their p**** what's the amount of jobs that existed just three months ago it's practically reduced to their opportunities which were already slim to none have it Whitney were talking about people getting at a college in 2020 that how bad their economic opportunities before all this is the solution the solution is to actually do something at other material condition ultimately solution about the fire how do you put out the fire cuz there's a fire when these people smashing Windows all down Fifth Avenue that's a fire right but I've done that in my view the tactics that aggressive tactics that the police have used have only made that were in the military call I find it I find all of I think we are getting far too comfortable and this is partly part of The Perfect Storm with the pandemic like we've become very comfortable with all these extreme limitations on our actions Behavior wearing the masks in public would create the level of anonymity like all of that goes into this so when when we have a curfew imposed of 1 p.m. or 5 p.m. or 6 p.m. we're just good to go with that but that should be taken in and of itself very seriously as infringement on 1st Amendment right so my point is that if you bring in the military it is frightening in terms of our liberties our ability to protest our first amendment rights which are incredibly important and I think ultimately only leads to additional violence so how do you stop the Looting you've got to do something to stop the Looting if you don't stop the Looting it is going to f****** continue protest because I think the people that are doing all the looting in the Smashing are not the people to peacefully protesting and there's a ton of videos who is screaming if there's a one video of this girl who's yelling at these these girls in front of a Starbucks in Hairspray Penny Black lives matter than African American Girl these white girls with white liberalism and their inability images as a whole element of white guilt and so much more there's an entire industrial industrial complex set up to make white people in upper that's why people in particular feel uncomfortable condemning looting and violence in this particular scenario even though everybody agrees with you Joe I mean pretty much everybody is like yeah protester fine looting is bad what her great would agree with something like that nobody was defending George Floyd no one like what happened interesting is that these riots have not just been in the poor neighborhood or in the black neighborhood I mean they have been all I think that's part of why people are so freaked out as they've been sort of intentionally in the wealthy parts of town is part of what makes it so unsettling for everyone across the board and so you know look I my only point is you know yes looting bad violence bad absolutely all of that but you can't imagine that the military is an answer to the situation that's what's really frightening in Minneapolis as a direct result of a bad cop killing a man that was handcuffed and not a threat whatsoever then people say okay I get these people smashing windows and Beverly Hills like what the fuc how are you justifying this and they're not but that's what that's the thing is it's not just a bad one bad cop or even just policing right I mean let's remember right it wasn't just one bite other three other guys do Target right down the street from here what the f*** does that have to do with anything I just do nothing to do with lawlessness that has to do with people taking advantage of the situation and escalating also exciting and board and they got something but it is in many ways similar to war and this is why because when people are they have a real cause and when war is going on there's a lot of people that I know that have served overseas one of the hardest kind of scary truth is it some of the best times their life was over there for long periods of time as a journalist when you are involved in this and you feel like you're fighting the good fight and you like Corporate America but you know you're f****** 20 years old you believe that s*** she was talking about some papers that she found that she wrote when she was 24 and she was like those reasons like holyfuck like I was so dumb I don't know who makes their sneakers they don't know what it would cost to keep the electricity on they have no they have no shoe in the game and that's exactly where that hopelessness one of a Flint Sheriff from Flint Michigan talking to these people and saying look I'm a puppet on down we're going to we're going to march with you if you want you to have a voice versus Batman but you know the militarization all of that that approach lead to less violence that approach that the Crackdown tear Gap happened after the Looting that's the that's the impetus for it it's not like they saw these people protesting they just going to start shooting tear gas into the first people protested get away with s*** like that he's like okay now there's a fire of the mind and that it was a beacon it was a message any of the s*** has a you're talking about you look organized gangs like people with car getaway cars Lookouts posted on the corner all that wears the NYPD that breakdown is a very precious thing in this is on the riots I mean look Baltimore 2015 they had these level of riots what happened massive economic destruction but worse than that is that police and many of the others had took a much more risk-averse approach to the way that they were going to a community the community screaming for police for this reason which is that in the aftermath we know from many of these rides in the MLK times and after Baltimore it caused massive economic destruction to the cities it is not a noble thing to allow this to continue it's actually your job as a city go out to eat or do anything and now I've got s*** like being blown up in the streets like a couple blocks from my house like I don't really know if I if that's the city life is all that enticing Qatar sale

that is what what I like why are you why conservatives have to care more about government that's something I like one of my pet what causes look like we are living in a society where the culture is against you like we are living in a society where in Elite cultural Elite the commanding Heights of American culture and you're living in a society where you don't have real power there and so and you're also living inside of corporate America look at these protests it's the people with the most accumulated capital in America are also on the side of this protest why because in my view they use identity politics and racial politics they want to split the country along those line every single day that were talking about identity politics and having debates about race does the party's right so the Democratic party Caterers largely to these like white affluent women basically it's like the the base that they mostly they've got their health insurance One On Demand right there way of a virtue signaling is on identity issues and if you only confine the conversation on policing to like let's deal with this let's let's have more body cameras like if you keep it in that lane that's very comfortable for them right if you have a broader conversation about a society that you know has decimated unions has decimated working-class power about who has power in the society and why that's more of a threat to them so yes for corporate Brands it's very comfortable to have like let's have a diversity initiative it's less comfortable to say no no was actually value the worth of everyone let's actually have a different set of houses actually not have corporations able to give unlimited unlimited money and buy up our politicians and then be able to go work on your boards at that are like that's a very non-threatening conversation that's how you end up with was a Bank of America who sponsored the the movement continues yes continues with DeRay McKesson is a pronghorn activist to be another reason why Amazon would support this protest that this is kind of a death of retail mean this is one of the final Nails in the coffin of retail when you think about investing your money in a brick-and-mortar store after all this horseshit was a very prominent person Bezos wants 10 to 15% unemployment what's the best job in the world Joe in real place Amazon warehouse where like the Shell Gas Company sponsors a 1619 project event with nikole hannah-jones t19 projects the year that the first slaves were brought to America and was about reforming the way that we talk about race and slavery in America so that the very first a say what she wrote which is very controversial is when she claimed that the reason for the American Revolution was because people wanted to keep their slaves not because of your control from England and all that what happened is that a bunch of very prominent historians are in the American Revolution the Civil War or Panda still won the Pulitzer Prize for journalism 4 commentary I want to say for that specific essay which was with which was there and they partnered I think it was with the Pulitzer Center in order to create curriculum that schools are now using to teach now this was attacked the 69 team project not at first back in service of course reserves were pissed off world socialist website and socialist and the reason why is because which is that it's a cynical attempt in order to say America is an irredeemably racist nation that that is the only single and most pressing problem that we have in our society and if you hold that frame then you don't ask questions about corporate power in America you don't ask questions even of leaders a friend of our shows that Johnny had a fantastic appearance on Archer I really encourage everybody to go watch it where he talks about if you look at the black community In America which is what had the most pressing impact on their life economically and destroyed so much of their livelihood it was the foreclosures under Barack Obama and it was the Wipeout of black homeownership and black wealth that the that the 1619 project and the framework of politics is that original sin which of course is the original sin is the be-all end-all for why we are where we are today absolves current political leaders and recent political leaders like Barack Obama himself or like leaders in the city of Atlanta or leaders in the city of Baltimore and that absolves public policy which is non-racial and so when I say that why does Shell Gas Company feel comfortable sponsoring an event in which the main message is that Quizlet Americas and irredeemably racist Nation because they that is one more event which is being talked about in the political Zeitgeist by the cultural Elite which is not talking about their own power in the marketplace and if you look at who what is the predominant control in her life in America it is Capital it's not about race it's about class class but class disproportionately affect people of color in America and so the way I look at it is that identity politics is so cynically grafted on by the billionaire and the corporate classes reason they're all super woke it's because they want it to be this way so that we don't talk about their power in our society and I think this was a very sick like the way this all happened is kind of crazy because geology departments in the 1970s all of these crazy nowadays from the post on the sixties era they were you know any sociology department and they started cranking out all these absolutely crazy papers around you feminism in Corporate America and indoctrinated in the University system they're going to go work at places like MacKenzie and racial politics how to be recognition from the top four people at Goldman Sachs if Goldman Sachs if the pressure on them is to stop the way that they trade derivatives or to put a black person on their board while they continue to you know do the derivative trading it absolves them for the sins both know towards economically disenfranchised in America but it's also a very cynical tool which is that why is it that you see all these Corporation Scout weeding out black lives matter Instagram black out all that stuff how is it that you see like not you do Nike isn't it the great irony that Nike you know went and did the whole Colin Kaepernick thing the ad campaign and they still got all their s*** looted in this in this most recent that it's a lot more about classes then it is about race I'm not saying that there is not racial problems in American racism that so you know all of us but that if you focus on these classes shoes it's the best way to help people people were disenfranchised or disproportionately people of color but the help everybody that's a much more I just don't know how else we can live in a multi-faceted multi-faceted nation like this different religion I am the son of Indian immigrants I feel fully and completely American that's an amazing thing but didn't just happen is a product of a result of very specific political choices that we made over time and it's moving toward that that we needed to go to war than that's what but by doing so what you've talked about me not just distribution but about the power until you can't separate class and race cuz it's not an accident of course that black and brown people are disproportionately but lower in common and poor and working-class in society every night I see it much more simulator like what you were saying left company right but because they use those are branding tools and we don't black lives matter which is no threat to them and in fact is they're pointing out May very much benefit their bottom line ultimately there so they get all the benefits of being for progress and being for this Rising Coalition in America without actually having to do anything that's going to benefit their bottom line black lives matter which is no threat to them in fact is you're pointing out May very much benefit their bottom line ultimately there so they get all the benefits of being for progress and being for this Rising Coalition in America without actually having to do anything that's going to benefit their bottom line

question to you how do you fix us so on the roster with the riots cuz I think my view is clear re-establish Law and Order you use that opportunity to seize upon again the 50-plus one thing where we all learn through this pandemic it's pretty stupid that are corporate Elites and our political Elites allowed many of our most critical jobs and industries in order to go over to China that's an empirically stupid thing makes us safer in the long run Freakonomics respect from National Security perspective Health perspective excetera the China thing is like a 90-10 issue and right now and make sure I call this out which is that there are elements in the White House more corporate friendly ones who are trying to quash up by American order that was put forward you know within the Trump Administration it doesn't even call for mandatory like ensuring a medical supply chains but just look like wants to use Sub-Zero tax rebates on other stuff to encourage over 10 years and I think it's something like that any tennis shoe after something like this hasn't been past I think on trade it's the same thing is it a broader question of so much of what we have is overwhelming relationship but it's like a great nation makes things worse self again and autarky is like making everything here if just because it's cheaper thief the altar of globalization the altar of cheap prices has made us make horrific political choices over the last four decades and going on that and praying towards that alter has made it to the we re less safe lasted less robust less I mean socially to to live in a town and have a factory which is producing something and to feel pride in your work and get paid a good worried and to know that the Explorer decision of Congress in order to let China join the WTO China joining the WTO restoring permanent Norman relationship permanent normal trade relations with China and watching that factor go away like this you know why that went away and people made that choice because they said f*** you you're better off if it's cheaper TV has been like if you have cheaper stuff and you can buy more like cheap Chinese crap you're going to be happy right that's going to be the key to happiness and so everything has been used to justify those ends and it hasn't made us happy it hasn't made a satisfied hasn't brought us any sort of spiritual nourishment or community and Community is something that we have completely sort of dismissed with and dispatch with and devalue in the country as well so like easy here's Allah you can pass then you're good to go but I think it does start with this fundamental idea which comes back to kind of the core of our show that human beings are worthy that they have dignity that they have rights that should be secured and if you can take that kind of FDR economic rights model and actually implemented into place where people feel that they are valued seen and heard and have agency in power in the society than you are not going to have to call in the military to American cities you're not going to end up with a situation like we see right now that's spiraling is spiraling and spiraling out of control life and economic policies to incentivize the building of communities in the building of Institutions that exist outside of just the outside of just a direct check from the direct check from your Workforce it's if she needs to be about the way that America was like the probably most united we ever were with around like in the 1960s look I know ever been there were terrible things happened there were exposed in the Civil Rights era and all that but you know broadly what was it was like unions it was about higher wages and it was about the strength of the American family and that's something that I mean every day that we see the lowest marriage rate on record in 2018 one reason the people decided not being able to get married doesn't very much part of like the new Right Movement there's a new organization called American Compass run by friend of mine Oren Cass keys to work for Mitt Romney and now he's trying to do is move the GOP on these issues toward centering economically restoring like economic conservatism from economic libertarianism and what I mean by that is free market fundamentalist at the free market is always good look like the free market was it is it a good thing once again that we couldn't make ventilators in our country when we thought we needed them like was it a good thing that we couldn't manufacture our own medical supplies and then broadly like in the terms of the immediacy we do it's this payroll plan it's so critical that we restore Americans payroll and that we try to make it so that these businesses don't become failed distressed assets that get rolled up into these huge private-equity conglomerates that buy them all off for cheap that f**** over workers f**** businesses and it just make them do you want to live in a highly in a world where there's no mom and pop businesses are no dive bars anymore that's where we're headed right I think two people will put up with a lot of s*** and they will persist and they will invest in the commuter invest in their lives to invest their productive Civil Society if they feel that they have they believe that life will get better for themselves and their kids and I really think that's kind of the corps breakdown is that people no longer have that confidence that for their kids it's going to they're going to be able to have it better than they had and when you lose that sense of hope life will get better for themselves and their kids and I really think that's kind of the corps breakdown is that people no longer have that confidence that for their kids it's going to DARE going to be able to have it better than they had and when you lose that sense of hope that's when things go off the rails

feel like there's a real movement towards what you guys are doing now I feel like it's the future cuz I feel like people are fed up with that Chris Cuomo s*** they're fed up with that Rachel Maddow she had no disrespect to either one of those those people but like I was with Chris Cuomo doing something the other day and I was watching him where he's basically justifying riots Trump needs to be removed from office so let's come up with some sort of a reason why he's responsible for these rides needs riots are good and he's rides that have been a storical e done when people feel powerless and wheat bread that's all true and that's really what's going on about a hundred videos of people looting I might have seen for black people it's always white kids stealing sneakers which is that this is a Gorge Floyd's family has come out and said please stop I mean how many times you say that understanding what to do right because if it's just what I have seen has it just been you know in terms of looting I don't know specifically but I think it's very easy to say I was just this type of person is just that type of person and to take out of it any of the sort of like more radical not just mashing up stores in that kind of stuff but like graffiti and more you notifying curfews in those sorts of things and so if if you view the problem just like violent person like the problem is violent protesters we have to deal with that than that merits one response and that's the direction that Trump is going and it's like all in the military which I think is f****** scary like calling in active duty military in every city in the country like we saw with the protesters who got you know the tear gas and rubber bullets in front of the White House or peacefully protesting that s*** to me is scary and frankly the fact that Democrats and quote-unquote journalist on TV have acted like the world is ending every time Trump does anything when he does do something like invoke the Insurrection act and say we're looking at sending the military into American cities there is no more language of this is unprecedented this is outrageous this is you no different than what we've seen in the past left because they burn that up on every single thing that has ever. They have cried yet that's exactly the case different very dangerous and volatile moment but if you think that the protests are about the the structure of a system that doesn't allow any redress for you no problems of people living peacefully protesting about for a long second time and not a thing has been done if you think the protests are about your political system they will offer you the quote on quote choice of Donald Trump is like the Central Park five dude and red lighting with his daddy and denying black people housing and Charlottesville is fine on both sides versus Joe Biden who wrote the 94 crime bill is unrepentant for it was justify against with Charlamagne just recently and saying Hillary's wrong apologize it for etcetera etcetera as part of this whole thing went out and said it you know police shouldn't be treating people in the heart and stuff Hoagies are bad people these are people should deem as terrorists we have to crack down on then let's call in the military that should ultimately never works because look at 19 years in Afghanistan what do we learn yeah you can take the ground you can't hold it you can't hold a society together with an aggressive militarized response that's not going to work overtime so if that's your only strategist like okay then what then what are you going to do we have curfews at 1 p.m. everyday military's holding down Americans motorized response that's not going to work overtime so if that's your only strategies like okay then what then what are you going to do we have curfews at 1 p.m. everyday I get a military holding down American cities everyday because you have a significant chop chunk of the population that will no longer consent

what would you have done so if you had a magic wand and you were the president like how do you how do you mitigate this how do you this is my biggest frustration with the White House which is that you have this populist president who like actually understands like very much why he got elected but you have so many of the people either. and those are the people who were like let's cap the paycheck Protection Program 2.3 trillion dollar plan or what fish will let's look wait and see how it goes as you know the unemployment numbers began to take up Mass small business failure all these other things and that's the fundamental tension of the Trump Administration is that there was no like there were no professional populists so to speak right like there was no professional apparatus of people on the right who actually held at understood why Donald Trump is President and this is like this is what gets back to her I talked about earlier about the incentive structure about that system the think-tank the revolving door that is an effort to maintain power over the policy spirit because of you control that it doesn't matter what the people say yeah he could do it but the reality is he spent his whole mess of political capital is first term like giving them away tax cuts to corporations same thing any other Republican would have done so that's why it's a roll my eyes I don't think he cares about anything through the layers to talk to a human before in a hundred years veterans choice he was taking care veterans through like a veteran spouse like a healthcare program doesn't really have that like he doesn't really think about things in that historical context lives completely in the moment and he doesn't really have that like he doesn't really think about things in that historical context

yeah you know when I was a teenager I was so I was right I was young I was drinking and I remember I was so anti-klan I'd read some book on the Ku Klux Klan and there was a preacher for the clan his name was in the book so I called the information I called the FBI and I tried to stop a Klan rally but I called this guy at home this this clan preacher and I started that's wrong you were racist and yeah but I was before you can beer kill I was stuck in just 14 and drunk and try to make a difference how cool is that the lady talked to you he did talk to her yet but I'll never forget it and I my father I think you are drinking after work cuz he's like he heard some of that conversation about to get started with me calling the FBI or the CIA I know that you're why'd you quit doing drugs yeah I did that when I was I want to say I was 17 or 18 and we used to get drunk in my friend's house and it was a it was a something that you could call for like help from nuns so I would have my friends sitting around that I would always call up and pretended like I would make up these horrible incest stories and terrible sexual things that were happening to me and my f****** friend to be laughing and then none to be trying to counsel me on the phone LG's and then I called a bomb threat I did it a couple of times it didn't work in the third time I get the final time I did it they actually had people leave the school and go outside while they searched to school drunk bomb threats take a f****** TJ Miller to that recently but it wasn't a woman but didn't you call bomb threat in remember what the conclusion if you're really f***** up when you think somebody might have a bump like paranoia like real like full-blown paranoia like I remember you know Jim Breuer course legendary pothead and one time he quit and equipped for quite a while and I said listening to me Most states of Consciousness when you take like the normal way you are and you start changing a little bit with a little bit of booze little bit of booze little bit anxiety would have depression little bit of bad things with her this would that take the edge off so I can go to sleep and take an Ambien if the volume doesn't work and you keep going cuz you insert in your body the more things you do the more you shift from like you're comfortable Baseline of who you are when you're at your healthiest you change you become a different thing and I think pot is just as likely to do that as anything if you were doing it the wrong way if you abused it I think alcohol can do what I think pot to do a pills speed if they all those things can surely do it but it's strange to see when someone starts to slip away and they start to go towards it's like very strange version of themselves that you know they don't have control anymore how you felt like when you were very young age it was a weird sexual addiction first stop it started you know I don't remember the first one but I remember there's a picture I can date it because I did a picture of me when I was a kid when I split my head open and I was I remember I split my head open running from the boy who is a year older than me and I used to blow him but I was scared of him he was abused terrorized me but I would do it like I did remember I was in the hole in my pants were down this f****** take away smell like mothballs cuz you work more f****** Budweiser bathing trucks they had Budweiser on them don't it so I went and I was born underwater and then he goes I popped up cuz he pissed in my mouth so I popped up on my don't do that anymore I was already involved so I have an absolute photo that dates exactly so you were blowing kids when you're 5 yeah so what do you think started that off don't know must have been you know it's just one kid one can open the door the rest of us f****** ran through it I mean I don't know I just don't know what star that I very vague leading memories at 5 years old you were all sexually-active you and your buddies who is first who is second I remember my one friend got erection that I didn't get them like I didn't know what they wanted was fives going to reminder 6 do me after all right I think that was kind of the goal of course there's a lot of it man and I have it again I can date it because I moved Halloween a fourth grade to North Brunswick to any experience that happened within this place I know it happened before then that's crazy so do you think that this kid did you know that if his kid was molested don't know I mean it had to be somebody had to be getting f***** because there's no way all of us for that sexually active for no reason don't remember I have too many memories like being a basement and then not exactly remembering I have weird memories possible adults like it's it it's kind of like watching a fades in and out and I wish my memory was better but it's just no one's really is you know that's the weird thing about memories when it comes to being you know a young person no one's memories are very good you have like flashes I'd like some things that I definitely remember but because they like facts like when I was 7 we drove across the you know I remember those yeah I remember we got in an accident on Lombard Street in San Francisco and it's like the crookedest street in the world right remember that cuz I remember some try to pass us and remember scratch the car I remember that but like this little tiny things like sometimes I'll talk to my sister and I'll talk to my mom she's like to you remember that thing that all seems like I open up a folder sometimes it's scary though many times drive back to that area cuz it's in Edison and I'll drive back when I'm doing the stress Factory or gig and I'll just I'll drive to that neighborhood know what the fuk happened here something happened here and it might not just be one moment but something happened here that kind of shifted me because I don't know exactly what it is and dr. Drew told me I was molested me and maybe he's right I don't know the very least you were sexually involved with someone else who might have been yeah what I do without a date did the odds are it had to be 1,000 other thing that came of this article that I was saying that the origins of homosexual that's one thing they were saying that I was home before because the origins of sexuality homosexuality is Dem people being molested when they're younger is not what I said and let me explain that to people if you're gay if you read that you feel bad that can happen to people who would not be inclined towards homosexuality if they're molested when they're younger dr. Chris Ryan the guy wrote sex at dawn was explaining it to me is that there's up you like what is the term not necessarily patterning imprinting that you when you're sexually active I have someone sexual with you when you're young and that person happens to demand you can imprint and you could develop sexual feelings in response to that like you get your your brain triggers sexual feelings towards men where you might not be inclined so like even if you're not actually homosexual you're still turned on by men in a certain way because you were molested it's one of the reasons why they say they don't really know why people who get molested wind-up molesting people but it's really common it's like they know somebody describe your best like it's almost like a vampire bites you and this thing like you're passing it on to the next person this this creepy thing but that you know that this is another thing where people took out of context saying that you know I'm homophobic adult memories but not anything concrete I can say with sexually like it just kind of smoke that comes by and it leaves and that's kind of how those memories are but with there with the kids they were all kids in my age within a year or two of each other so it wasn't like I bet you probably don't know why you were doing or why what happened before that that started it and cause it I bet the person who you're doing it with no maintenance you know when people get molested when they were really young one of the big issues as they block it out yeah I don't remember a goddamn thing they date their brain protects them from all the darkness yeah I think so and I've heard that it wasn't that bad maybe it was just me and my friends and developed dominant force behind that I just don't remember but it's weird because it's like most kids don't blow their friends somewhere in history I got an idea open my mouth and see how they feel. 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Shibuya we had talked about your dad and your dad being in jail and people Man Kim Kardashian has had I think some like 28 people wrongly accused released from prison she's all about like prison Justice Reform and she makes these regular trips to the White House to talk to the president about prison reform and about getting people out of jail that that got bad deals yeah and I mean that's it that's a worthy cause that's amazing, stop making fun of her so you know I could have never really speak on them but for someone to come out and actually cuz there's so many people that are behind bars because of something being wrongfully accused and the fact that she celebrity like her of her stature is really shedding light on that in and actually taking the steps to to go on these guys it's just amazing it's amazing and then speaking to my father like I said like this is no accident that we here like like life is this is no accident Joe but like last time I was here and it was the first time I ever talked about it and open up about it and this attorney great a shout out of South Florida actually contacted me like a you know I would love to take a look at the case and and and you know look at what's going on here and so you know he's kind of been like looking into a working on it and you know sending the letters I need to be sent and making the calls I need to be made and Joe the moment I just walked in here and I know this is no lie just showed you the text I just walked in here and I'm in the bathroom and I get the text that says he's going to be released soon. Incredible incredible I will definitely try that would be the big thing to me that would mean so much to me is is that my dad front-and-center for MiFi have my dad come into the cage and and then put that belt around me that that would be dizzy moments in life that I call it like being floored and that's just went by your heart hits the floor and I think those moments arrived and maybe she's worked for me when you think about the pursuit of happiness these are the definition of the when you can you can make your parents heart Hit the Floor by doing something like doing something to wear your recognized so much to where they're recognized for the work that they did Raising you that the good work that they did you know whether it's your winning the you know Road scholar with his winning the Nobel Peace Prize I can you imagine as a parent watching your child accomplish something great like that feeling is a feeling that I long for I want I want to make my parents feel that as many times as possible before they're called home and they passed from this Earth and and I'm sure my daughter won't point is going to want to do that and you know I think winning that title and I would have loved to see my dad's face when I won that title and just then you should just look into him and see how he felt so I can't I can't wait for him to be at the next one I can't wait for him to actually feel that how long has it been locked up for 2009 Chevy 11 years I think yeah and I know my dad did Miss beat to go see my dad the same guy relives the same guy you would think this is something I would defeat somebody that would crush them and kill him and of course I'm not with him day in and day out but my dad still the same guy to me until I'm not going to cry I can't I can't wait for him hold my dad again if you could choose who would you like to see him cageside when you fight who would you like to be fighting when he's there for the first time if I could choose you could choose would it be red panties night is worth to get to the point where the car decides I want to get my ass kicked by huisman that's his choice you know he has the right to make that decision because he's put himself in that position and I'll bet it's not a fight that I'm going to beg for her that I really want but I think someone brought it after my last fight that I'm sitting at the right under Georgia's record for most consecutive wins in the welterweight Division and I think I'm like one behind until I think imagine me breaking that record fighting the guy that has the record that that would be insane, I think besides, that's the biggest fight ties to the other the other biggest right to make his could be could be decided to go up to 170 yeah that would never fight to be really yeah that's my brother a mutual respect I don't see myself ever I don't see myself ever fight could be I don't see myself ever fighting Israel just need to file your knee if I don't see myself fighting them you know if you haven't yet plenty people having to Belton Nigeria's better than just having one guy holding two belts yeah I always everything first of all his striking is some of the most intricate complex and creative striking of ever seen just flew angles not just the champion and you know Israel is is he special his wagon and I'm I get kind of investor my damn I wish I could do that s*** I wish I could do this with my hands around the way he does in the way he is one of those guys that special and Israel is one of those guys that special hunts I want to be able to swing it somebody and they fall over I want to be able to have power like that francis's power supply it doesn't make sense

I think you're so right and to make it like a not a partisan thing our politics are so shallow Hollow theater cable news base there like Twitter politics and you can see it not just with Trump who's like the ultimate incarnation of that but during the pandemic Andrew Cuomo is like the celebrity Governor Democrats are like Hartley on hip is it on him but also they shut down later right then other places like washing like California which had much lower outbreak he mandated that nursing homes take back in and 43% of coronavirus in recovering patients and he happens that he got a you know million-dollar + campaign check before his re-election through Affiliated committee before he got re-elected and so he also put made sure to put into place a liability for all their executive so that if they don't do a good job that can't be held liable and that data shows is correlated with increased CO2 and infection rates because they know that they're going to be held responsible so there's a lower threshold there so there were very specific decisions that were really bad fueled the worst outbreak in the entire country but because he can get on TV and give a commanding press conference that's all people really care about the recovering being readmitted to the nursing homes you know but no night after night after night it's the show of the two brothers chumming it up what people are dying this is a politician supposed to be held to account that is supposed to be your turn around MSNBC wants to touch with each other and of course I mean people on the writer talking about it because he's a Democrat let's talk about it if it's a republican we're going to do the same thing and that's the way I mean at a basic level that's the way supposed to be and it it's a big big problem again going back to this moment that we're living in because no one trusts anyone and for good reason even if you are an MSNBC water and you know it and you love it and you love Rachel Maddow know you're getting spun stories that are going to like Peak your interest there nor the end of Every Blessing of every single news story cannot be Ergo Trump is bad like every single news story cannot be Ergo Trump is bad like literally every new story

it's like did you see that in India the monkey stole the coronavirus gang from the monkeys that were like give me that and they gave it to him but the funny thing is they didn't get into it so they actually were able to keep the specimens and taxes crazy yeah yeah yeah oh the barter yeah they make deal depending on the Monkees depending on the territory but it's up to the baby and stole the baby oh my goodness I don't want to say Indonesia on a leash and if you notice that came back so fast oh but it was it was like the monkey rode a motorcycle down this alley to these people that were sitting there grabs a baby and starts Dragon the baby away on the motorcycle motorcycle kid dragged to do is just holding its Keith holding on to the baby and he's being crazy for the kids so the guys trying to probably get them away from the kid that's insane and that's why we're the guys so casual to I mean just Illinois spring how the f*** would a monkey know how to ride a motorcycle if somebody that teaches at Mount definitely someday I can't wait to ride a motorcycle there's a photograph of famous photograph of a orangutan that is spearfishing and it learn how to do it by watching people who does monkey so it's hanging from a branch with a spear and sticking it into the water stabbed a fish just like it seen humans do cuz that's how the people fish there right now well how dope is that how crazy he's hanging with his feet in his hands into the water and the fish we were that yeah we were some form of that some form of that something happened something happen that causes two different if they start talk I don't know but you know something we're going to figure out some kind of a computer that's able to like read every tiny micro movement and interpreted into words you know and I'll be like mood and then like words and like how I think it's saying this and it's just going to get better and better and better is that gorilla that they taught sign language was in sign language got it and that this photo in the in the Zoo gorilla that could really talk up a storm like had like pretty I mean imagine if you're mad at me weird chimp that they were really confused about it they actually thought it might be a hybrid between a human and a champ because I want to say this is like the 50s or the 60s was really freaky and this lady kept it I think they eventually had to bring it to some sort of rescue center because it developed a very on the sexual relationship with this lady and her friends probably not this Humanity thing I can't find accuracy of it it says you put these on your luck I have seen a picture it's creepy if this person go to that one on the far left in the second row second to the far left at the black and white one look more and more just like a champ but one of the weird things about and see if you can find a video of it Oliver the humanzee he was to walk on his back feet so real creepy and so that's part of the reason why there was all the speculation that maybe it was like some sort of a hybrid that makes sense that they would be like definitely a there's got to be outliers you know because so much genetic information is shared between like all of the animals on the planet including us and we have billion pieces of all of it oh my gosh interesting weird yeah could be an outlier bald-faced as well I think they had some speculation human in it but they found I was just a champion still weirdchamp we've only been around in this form for somewhere in the neighborhood of 250,000 to 450000 years or something like that they don't really know but I think on the short and it's like quarter million years I mean it's weird if you look at the evolutionary like the lines we just go it's just a departure something something happened I know I first my percent wrong but I'm also Papa probably 100% yeah something some alien I mean mushrooms are aliens you know I think so extreme cold interesting idea of panspermia you know that I think that it's really possible that some sort of fungus could exist on an asteroid you know we have chunks of the Moon and Antarctica and other parts of the world where are some big asteroid hits or a meteor hits the moon a big chunk flies off to get sucked in our gravity and slams into Earth and if that can happen and you can get moon in Antarctica and other parts of the world where are some big asteroid hits or a meteor hits the moon a big chunk flies off to get sucked in our gravity and slams into Earth and if that can happen and you can get some fungus on that some sort of some sort of spores

Facebook and Zuckerberg and his like Enos continued position of like well good balance think it's like it all it just comes up like the reaction to Kaepernick or Facebook's reluctance to do anything or even like it's basically saying like we're not we're not here to edit anything and I'm not saying that I'm for editing but it's okay if you have a few have if you're in charge of a company the fear the face of the come so what you do is a reflection of what you believe in right in his particular case he must have actually believe this but he just believes that to say nothing to do nothing about the things that are posted which is which you know you can argue in court all day doesn't incite violence or is it just someone being free they're expressing their free speech or you know whatever the deal is but if someone's consistently hitting a certain angle and the response is pretty palpable in Fairly miserable and yet you choose to just allow it to be what it is because he know people will figure it out the legend Kate themselves that type of a think you have to take some kind of a position from a humanitarian point of view and I think that I'm very disappointed in in social media in general because Jenna because they're trying to protect the bottom line and that's really what it comes off as it doesn't come off as like well I want to protect free speech he comes across more like we need a protector our bottom line because if we restart editing something then it's going to be a huge Landslide everyone's going to be like will screw this screw these guys for a stifling free speech and all that stuff but in actuality it's it only the only reason why you would make decisions like that are really just to protect the bottom line I don't really understand any other because I'm even Apple takes a position you know like Tim Cook will issue a letter that's then able to be circulated you can read the letter in my okay that's interesting that they don't believe in this and they don't believe in this as a company Zuckerberg is more like well I believe in in whatever the greater Bland generalization is for my operating system of systems is a technology company social media platform the difference what technology company responsibilities with social media platform has sugar Norma's it's an order to consequences or Norman Apple makes phones and computers and they have an app store and you know they they they take down bad apps and you know things that they find their spying on people in the like but they don't really have the same dilemmas it's unlike Facebook as when you talk about the importance of free speech when as soon as you decide okay this person can't talk but person can what you're essentially saying is my viewpoint is better than the Viewpoint of the person I disagree with now if you have very specific things like you can't docks people you can't threaten people you can't say anything racist or sexist homophobic or you want to establish those parameters you know if you decide that this is how you going to operate it if this is your company there's a real good argument that you should be allowed to do that because your company but then when it gets when the company gets big enough where it's like Facebook or Twitter then you get a real argument Powell the best argument for bad speech the best antidote is more speech is better speed so someone says something is wrong there's a real education value in being able to correct that and having other people correct but just eliminating it in some ways strengthen the resolve the people that hold that marginalized idea whether it's racism or sexism or whatever when you just eliminate it then they go off and it tends to strengthen their that there was all it had her you know it mean her and then but typically when it comes to things like right-wing issues or left-wing issues if you're if you're running it there's no right wing social media sites as popular as a left-wing ones but if there was and they decided we're not going to tolerate any trans stuff we're not going to even start talking about how a man who has a sex change is now willing to tell you go f*** yourself that's not real we're not going to tolerate abortion you want to talk about abortion rights you killing babies get the f*** off our platform and that's the kind of s*** that right-wing zealots would do to people that hold left-wing ideology but conversely you do see that from people who are left-wing zealots who are angry about peep who have right wing ideas and maybe even not so right wing like Megan I'm sorry if you've heard this before I use this example of times you listening Megan Murphy who is a what you would call a trans exclusion exclusionary radical feminist the color of turf and what that means is she's a person that's a feminist that doesn't believe that you can just change your sex and then you can have these arguments and deal with women's issues like a trans person she believes is different than a woman and in a sentence and there was some sort of a debate she was having online wear it with someone on Twitter and she said but a man is never a woman and so they told her she has to take that down and Associates on what on Wednesday a man has never won but if you wanted to talk biology a man is never a woman so if your person who is a left-wing Progressive salad and you don't want anybody that's not adhering or complying at all to the to the ideology of progressive people you ban someone like that and so I must yeah you let people correct the people to correct her and you get a lively debate where people get to discuss whether or not they are different things and intellectual argument in that there's a bad grade 2 sensor I'm just saying weighing in on the conversation and how you do that though specifically are we talking about well I'm just saying like for instance if I look at my comments say I post something on Twitter and then there's all these comments are they were like Nike a lot of my friends who have Twitter accounts they may they may read the comment and be like other guys in the house or whatever and never say anything and there's just like all of these you know comments that are some of us just troll people trying to get reactions stuff like that all that all that I like to personally engage all of that s*** and I like to come out there with a conversation and the thing that ends up happening with something like Facebook is because it's like I'm just a I guess I'm biased because I don't think I don't think very much of Zuckerberg at all and he's just kind of it a little bit of a thief or a lot of bit of a thief is a thief and he's not he's not innovator in anyway he's running a company but the ideas that time. He just basically stole the initial code for Facebook which was generated by a few different people just kind of made off with it and he just like you know it's like it's like how many companies are formed it's like someone had an idea there's no way for them to protect the idea because someone capitalized on the idea of I think it's like where that came from where they came from and so forth is arbitrary so I'd I know that they're Furious you know and I know that they're furious and I know some other people from startups that also know all I know is that in the beginning there was that and then in parallel as it was growing as they were making decisions I would hear from people that are in his orbit that we can describe his decision-making process processes and so forth and I don't get a sense that he he understands is is responsible his social responsibility responsibility to the identity of the company seems very far removed and in his actions kind of dictate that it's like a little bit laissez-faire in a sense that if if I have like going back to my comments I'm commenting on those things because I'm letting I'm letting people comment but I'm engaging in a conversation with okay and hopes that we can talk back to you they want yes of course yeah but you know what is the explanation that YouTube did for this but this is the problem with Banning comments or deleting comments it gets that stuff can get co-opted and there was a situation recently where YouTube was caught deleting comments that were critical of the Chinese Communist party and what Dave said was it was a software glitch but I saw that I said okay that that's what I'm talking about like that kind of s*** like once someone comes in and says hey really like it if you remove those things to talk about you know some of the mean stuff that we do yes yes I'm just saying be more accountable as the face of a company would you like him to do differently while I know you don't like them but like so is it just Facebook or do you have this problem with YouTube give us problem with Twitter I mean here's my problem at whenever you whenever power is Consolidated and they're always going to be promise cuz cuz there's going to be all these different ways that people wish that it were and it's not working for them in this way and so forth my thing is the future is distributed it's a distributed Network distributed social networks I have my own app watsapp that I created it's just a nap it's ya WhatsApp it's only on iOS we can look forward to it it just has it has exclusive content created a bunch of like interviews with Jack Wyatt and Leslie Feist and Fred Armisen are on there in the stupid series I called relations with shot entirely on drones and I can't really hear the conversation but I took it out WhatsApp it's out there but it's got live streaming I have a store that I sell my old electronics on but you know I have other artists are interested in making it happen apps are notoriously caught the cut cost-prohibitive I mean was Oliver Klein Klein designed single-handedly the whole app is a maze has a static is awesome but my thing was if I can create a template and keep getting the price down to make an app and they're just using template that I created for other artists and other bands then we can have a distributed network of apps that can enter communicate with one another without the need of Facebook Instagram any of these new social media platforms and that way when a fan comes to visit my site they know it's my s*** it's not being tracked no one's getting tracked there's no social for my for my there's no there's no social component to it people can't comment on anything there's just content to observe events to behold and electronics and headphones to be bought and that's it so when you go there feels like a safe space and so if there's an interconnected network of distributed apps which essentially just kind of interactive websites I guess that's what a nap is ultimately now you got some trust that it's not owned by Facebook it's owned by interview Corporation so for me it's about power consolidation it's never going to be what it what you want it to be it'll be convenient and it'll be ever-present like Google and for whatever reason Google I have a better opinion of than Facebook and mainly I will say also the other big factor in the basement to me is the Aesthetics piece of s*** it's a it's a confusing terribly design piece of s*** it'll be ever-present like Google for whatever reason Google I have a better opinion of than Facebook and mainly I will say also the other pick factor in Facebook to me is he Aesthetics are piece of s*** it's a it's a confusing terribly design piece of s***

is but it's almost inevitable I mean I feel like we have to accept this new reality one day going to be a thing of the past and not just in terms of like what you browse and but I think what you think in the ones they got you on said to me in the last conversation I had to really creeped me out is like going to be able to talk without words was just talking about neural Link Link going to have hive mind my condensation or the go to the condensing of technology in general its we are fascinated with creating the things that we already do that we already do inherently so that idea of like being able to talk without words it's like that happens all the time anyway so you ever go on a dance floor and watch people like dancing like someone's like communicating adjusted Body Language they know what's going on or you're about to call your friend and suddenly your friend calls that words are going to dance for is a perfect example of like when them Porsches for the ass end goes out yet I'm going to stay away from that person dance I would make I want to make an example of you in a those women aren't real fall asleep when you wake up as a deep pain in the right side of your body like what the f*** is missing know about the picture on living I'm shooting for the shooting for The High Ground man we're going to do it do it I don't know our foundation is really being tested cuz we've had multiple blips in a row yes no big stress test Moon. Of peace or we can digest ease and recover yeah we're deteriorating which is like taking these hits in another Age of Enlightenment United Spain had one another every every most large cultural epicenters have had these moments where things can I came in the balance after some great turmoil and we were able to just put on cruise control for a little while and like Explore More in-depth nuanced things about who we are but those things existed before social media hahaha let's evil now like all this reality that you're in is a very Bland two dimensional projection of the reality show that you can experience yes it's our little fungus friends yes it is a little bit of an escape from this tired realm into a land of infinite possibility of love and understanding and connectedness in it and the dissolving of the ego in the air like the witches experience before that we can all do that could be legal with marijuana has radically changed the culture of California radically change the culture of Denver to change the culture of everywhere where it's been legalized in strip and it's changed the way people communicate with each other it's changed their ideas about law enforcement because we're no longer worried about Jack booted thugs knocked down our door because like to smoke a plant that makes us happy how we are as a human race and that's us it's a mild psychedelic inside right they come in very you know if marijuana is a gateway to anything it's a gateway to the real psychedelics it's a Gateway are mushrooms oh yeah we need Schewels some sort of psychedelic rituals best process by real legitimate Professionals in real life British establish centers were people actually know what they're doing we could to help people get passes this bump in our evolutionary travels piano the trauma and got a deal with the trauma we can't we can't you know that we we try to run away from it. Most of the time we try to feel good about stuff and and you just need to take it on understand it and then transfer yeah transforming it is to Part of Yourself that makes you stronger and then psychedelics really did just like a reminder to reminder of how we are you know cuz it cuz when children are born in their eyes are wanting everywhere and they're trying to absorb as much as they can about the world they don't care about color they don't care about any of the s*** that we have problems with this today all that stuff learned that initial state is essentially what happens with psychedelics we go back to the interconnectedness of Consciousness into however you want to Define that but the experience of it is very interconnected and it's a reminder that while yet we're parted word natural organisms we're part of this planet is fine as a part of a solar system the solar system Chicago pop-up pop-up tent that you set up in the wilderness of real consciousness Ctrl zip that tent and go onto the f****** Wilderness of psychedelic little baby pup tent this has been my reality and 100% if skinhead we were sitting across from each other or iOS but we kind of like he commented on something I was wearing or something like that and we started talking for a second we were talking about Mutual things and then he got he got up to get off the bus music and looking mean just going to it and they just kind of shrugged and walked off and I was like that's interesting basically a Neo-Nazi guy I was on a bus and for whatever reason we connected on this one thing and it reminded me of what's the name of the cartoon with the Sheepdog and the and the morning if you're if you're smart you're intuitive in your emotional intelligence if you can always intuitive and you're emotionally intelligent if you can always find your way to that person's core and you can share of value if you can share one value you can make it you can learn something even if it's a brief moment just for a second and interconnected moment with another person who had shared none of your values at all

well you're you're an unusual guy in that you're very left-wing like me but you're also very second amendment pro-second Amendment Usher like me I find like you and I are very big parallel so that that's true it's like for everything free but when s*** like this goes down and people just randomly lighting Targets on fire and you know and then out smashing windows and stealing things and knocking cars over and pulling people out of trucks now you understand that the veneer of civilization is very thin and they'd the chaos of being is very deep and it's I don't ever want to have to use a gun ever known a man being ever in my life if I if I make it to the grave and never have encountered anyone that I needed to shoot to protect my or I loved ones lives happy person yes of course I'd be much happier if I get to make that choice you know and I get to that I have the opportunity or the ability to protect myself or to protect someone I care about let me the sick it depends on the climate that you're you know we live in a climate that is like for very so many reasons that have we've gotten to this point at which essentially I could just say a blank the blanket blame goes to capitalism in general women than Siri like talk about this on this on the show a lot and capitalism in its most fundamental state is just essentially trade it's what humans did it Aveeno you set up a Fruit Stand in like someone's got bread and some of the trade and then there's kind of like an understood value for things and on a basic level it's just kind of what we do is human beings we barter we trade things like that but then you flash forward to any like overlay complexity over complexity or complexity that is then Guided by people are like I get all these hoarders and orders and people and choke points of resources rights and then they're they're kind of dictating Valley pop above the arms you know it's like yeah I enjoy the reason why I enjoy my ability to have a firearm is because I respect their power I'm in I'm in engineered mind minded person so I like the engineering in the craftsmanship behind it and I'd like the responsibility in the Safety Fair river that people take it seriously when I grew up people are really adamant about the safety of guns everything that whenever I touch the gun looked at a gun before you to pick it up they be like never put your finger on the trigger never appointed anybody unless you plan on firing it all the things that we all hear about gun owners are supposed to be taught and so growing up against I didn't really fear them they were just a thing you know in my mom's side of the family is all police police people and my dad was a military police military guns like that's just a part of the thing Farmers hunting all that stuff Great Falls same thing growing over my friends house and seeing them a deer on that strong opinion on the Rafters with a bunch of cardboard in the ground you know getting ready to be processed all of that stuff and for me I came back to guns like maybe like 10 years ago or something like that because I wanted to I was interested in training and overcoming my fear of handguns and and so that Fascination was great and went to Anna and Mike's parents like how long will it take me to get a handgun you know and I walked into a sporting good store at one of my favorites walk-in timed it 20 minutes I walked out and I had a bag with a handgun and ammunition in the bag and I was walking out of the store so there's no waiting. which which part of me is like part of me is like if you're responsible gun owner and you respect firearms that seems kind of normal you're like I'm responsible I know how to use this weapon safely I'm going to buy this guy and I'm going to walk out right and that was my first firearm ever bought whilst it was an interesting experiment I will say I'm going to talk to all my law enforcement friends and month in Montana like you know who was the guy walked in walked in his suit and have a full-on three piece suit and then had his carry concealed carry on him and then walked in with a huge bag of like crazy guns but he is a prosecutor and has to have security when he goes to cases and things like that because when they get convicted sometimes people suck their friends on him and stuff like that anyways he's never any altercations but an interesting guy really liked very heavily armed blah blah blah blah and I start talking like what would happen if order to get a firearm you had to like back when the NRA was the it would truly was the NRA when it was a bunch of like war vets who are like this is how you use Firearms safely like way back in those days if people had to go through training and had to be evaluated dad to pass driving like when you drive there like I don't have a problem with that yeah because you're promoting you're only doing yourself a favor you're you're you're promoting safety and you're educating people about firearms and stop to them if you want a firearm or you don't want to have a firearm but if you do you have to know how to safely operate a firearm and there are many kinds of firearms and all the same thing so anyways just beat around the bush that may be a good idea but people learn how to use a gun before they buy crack all the time for their professions in Great Falls and I'm sitting down with them about firearm on I never feel like nervous or anything like that but in but they're highly opinionated people who open carry open carry their always liked those people are almost always concealed carry permit people always say that those they don't like those people because it's you have a weapon that's visible and it doesn't have a fancy biometric lock on it there's nothing it's like if you're in a situation this man walks up behind you and takes again they just now they've got a gun and you just told everybody just showing everybody that you have a firearm and so there's this weird thing about open carry that conceal are people in like this is ridiculous wow you can do it if it's legal in your state certainly is it a good decision I don't I don't I don't think so it's probably not a good decision to do it when you just going to Walgreens but I'm saying you probably exists so that no one can ever infringe upon your rights to have one in any capacity so if you're her you know I'm saying it's not a thing where you want to do all the time but if he if some s*** goes down and you have a gun outside of the law should be you can do whatever the f*** you want like the law says you're allowed to open carry so you can have this gun outside your house doesn't mean go to the movies with a f****** AK-47 strapped to your chest yeah which people do In-N-Out and I get it night in the whole thing about like the gun issue is that it needs to start somewhere and it should started education guns are very into the safety aspect of it and I understand it's yeah it's very important to them yeah but it's one of those things where first of all weird now so many people there are all these Liberal Liberal friends of mine are asking me that like I know you have a gun dizzy like a gun text people that are anti-gun are hilarious because yeah they don't know that there are rules like this idea that there's no rules no rules awareness is always about education and the thing that the conversation always breaks down on either side or it's like if the gun that they're like any hint of something that says we're going to have to talk about this yet out there like now and then the people who are really anti-gun they're like any hint that there might have to be a compromise made then they're also equally like no and nothing's ever going to get done unless you get soldiers cops people use guns for an aunt who have to use guns profession talking to people who are Heritage gun owners people who've been growing up for Generations doing that to people who live in urban situations where there's illegal gun sales and black market guns and their problem with guns in their combined their communities all that stuff needs to be talked about but but the sides are so entrenched it's very very very difficult friends that are very interested in getting a gun now this open people's eyes you realize like this is not no one's on a power trip you just talking about your ability to safely defend your loved ones and yourself that's what that's how you're talkin about absolutely 100% you know and I'm my thing is to it's like technology is amazing and and gonser an interesting form of Technology because obviously if again in a healthy situation you like the new blah blah blah blah for the silencers did you have for this child I have a class 1 license all that geeky stuff sugiki is people working on engines and hot rods right there's that right then there is the whole cultural thing that you movie is going to like that bad boys nothing just guns or just stuff that people just have in the shooting and the thing is like people never understand when you talk to a war vet about guns and it's an gunfights in firefights especially recent firefights there like I never ever would ever if you two ever be in a gunfight ever and so and I and I believe them cuz I know things can change so quickly a bullet when you shoot a gun and it hit somebody and it in their life even if they're like threatening you support that is one of the most traumatic things that can happen in the human beings life and they have to live with that all the time women soldiers at least they have like I'm on a side and I'm trained you know and their psychological help and all that stuff for police officers most of them never even draw their weapons but when they and they do fire at the consequences are devastating on a psychological level but I will say that you know my friend who carries I was like what if the first three rounds that you have in your personal protection gun like that home whatever your handgun whatever it is one of the first three rounds were Rubber and then their life around after that and he was like oh that's an interesting idea and I'm like anything to protect yourself but not necessarily guarantee that you're going to kill kill somebody if it's you know if it's a weird situation situations happen fast and I understand when someone comes into your house all bets are off whatever you need to do however you feel if someone breaks in your house that's why I understand that completely but for me I'm like what can I do to make it really hard for someone to even get to me in the first place and my last last Last Resort is a weapon that can kill somebody that's my very very very last but I'm going to do everything I do for someone to even get to me in the first place in my last last Last Resort is a weapon that can kill somebody that's my very very very last but I'm going to do everything I can to be as pre-emptive is possible to not be enticing for people to want to come up and attack

you seen these bricks that people been finding at all these different sites where people are protesting is organized stacks of brick know someone who wants someone to throw a brick so that they can impart martial law like what is it you know my my brain always goes to conspiratorial appear throughout major protest cities I mean these are the ones that don't have a reason to be there Jamie I'm going to send you this video that I already sent me because this is all your drama to buddy man it at the cartoon so they left an old shity police car out there and then on top of that this this is not okay Jamie I'm here dropping to you right now so this old shity police car and then these three have all these protesters and then these three people move in a very organized fashion and there's a guy who made a video about have you seen the video Jamie where the guy breaks down these at the end of everything that I'll send you the video cuz what's up yeah okay put it up on the screen so these random pallets of bricks this is very organized this on Ventura Boulevard out here in LA or in North Hollywood so these pallets of bricks or just sitting there like this Riot supplies supplies and exactly so who doing this this is very organized I mean many stacks of these bricks it's very anti Anarchist what is this organized but I mean was fuel for Anarchy but I just I wonder look look at this or do you think do you think I mean here's another theory could be possibly performance art I mean I mean and I'm like but that's very very organized very weird I mean I hope that those were reported that the police like pick them up that's promising is it these are provocateurs are getting caught by actual black lives matter protest on grabbing them windows and spray paint and that real change this is like you get this and it's really the perfect storm in terms of its horrific nature you see this guy whose nonchalantly got his knee on this man's neck for 8 minutes and 38 seconds to just there's no no justification it's very clear that horrific there's no blurriness there's no gray area. It's just dirty dies and everybody is a fantastic reason upset and they want change and they're marching through the streets only see these bricks and then we see the chaos and there's cops cops the people knew were cops wearing police officer gas masks Like official gas mask like the ones that the cops use military issue s*** yeah and then these people chasing are you a f****** cop like this guy's breaking windows at Target and then someone in a comment was like I know who that is that guy is a cop and they were they were calling out the guy's name so this cop is going around firefighters that lights buildings on fire so they can save them right it's an exciting this of what was going on here it's a I think some people just wish they want it to turn into something massive and they wanted to be like a Civil War and and there's also like their whole race war thing that you know you hear about in a white supremacist like that talk about it now and there's then there's like the right with the thing is like your mind can swim in all kinds of like conspirators ways and it's probably it's a mixture of all kinds of things yeah it's definitely like probably like hey I'm going to do this or like hey we should do that or someone kind of kids around someone's listening you know in the police police department whatever in there like yeah we would if we were doing that whatever and they hear that I like I am going to do that who now has been that's some dangerous and I think that that's amazing that that that that protesters who are seeing this because those people if they're just not helping in any way and I'm sure there's a good one so that this a****** is smashing things and this guy comes over and grabs him a f****** body slams them and then everybody holds a guy down there screaming and yelling at him yeah they hold this guy I don't know if real shity darkest that are like you know they're basically they're like we're doing this this is our time and you know that there's like a whole wave of those people because I mean I remember going to Brandenburg Germany friend of mine out there has like they're a bunch of a kind of antifa anarchists feel like kind of mellow version German mellow version of that lot of funchal that was actually sky like a weird shaky history because I can go Bulls training camp for the Nazi youth at one point and then it was before that it was like a Polish I don't know like Air Force place or something weird shaky history but they bought it and they've converted it and now it's like a very accepting of all people like all kinds of people live on there and then they are people who work on the what's it called Fusion Festival which is one of the biggest festivals in the world in Germany that's in Brandenburg has an amazing festivals all just love based techno you know but it's got that hard edge of like Auntie corporate it's all DIY but it's massive it's like 70,000 people festivals like burning man in the woods and very interesting conversations that you hear from them but they're interview I don't I don't I mean a tiny bit ambition but not not a lot I actually was trying to learn them I love the German language do they speak English in an Audi R8 V10 plus and and I drove it onto the grounds when they were tearing down and this young woman came up with a spray paint can and was like shaking the can and going like what are you doing here with this kind of a vehicle and it was this weird 10 stand-up but I was with one of the people who is like one of the patch spray paint your car oh yeah yeah yeah I know and anyway like I was like you know what if she would have done it that's fine I was in her territory you know when it comes to stuff like that well I guess I just asked out a trip like this fascist anti-fascist whatever symbol on the know now and again as an initial response under if something happens and people go out in their young especially in this in this climate you know being cooped up no jobs what do you want to do I was literally behind this this is ridiculous whatever boom initial like who knows what's going to happen in that chaos when everybody goes outside I get that the continuation of it as the standard Behavior that's that's a problem that any leader any civil leader is going to condemn in friend frowned upon because at the the day I'm a pragmatist and it's just an efficient it's just very inefficient and inefficient it's like how how are you going to use that energy light harness the energy for real change you got to like you got to figure you have to strategize and for me I'm about hacking like we got to hack the system to tear down capitalism and who's making your shoes where did you get your car you f****** idiot I know I'll give you a hint. America yes I know it is really like it is and I agree with that 100% so they bought yes yes of every without a doubt every this is what's so weird about it is that it it's such a paradox right decisions what you're describing so like if you want to effect change you either going to fit into the feedback loop for going to feed back into the feedback loop or going to figure out a way to shift it so that you're able to spiral away from it and that's really what we need and I like people taking responsibility for getting rid of the fuc wits that are that are like f****** for everybody because guaranteed whether it's the police or there's protesters it's always a very very small percentage of those people are going to f*** it up because also the news love sensationalism so we're going to work on that everything went chaotic people lost s*** tons of money and then all the sudden you have this pandemic in the pandemic comes along and people cannot work so for the first time ever through no fault of your own you literally can't work for months and months at a time there's a staggering number of people right now that are in Desperate states that there is a terrible position financially they're about to lose their home they're about to lose their car there about they don't know what the f*** they're going to do to feed themselves and then you get this murder in the murder just lights all this dry wood and then everybody says look these people are all full of s*** Donald Trump's full of s*** Nancy Pelosi's full of s*** they're all monsters are both Gavin Newsom full of s*** with f****** burn it down and that's taking a part that that's that's that's happening wow these peaceful protest all the while people just got done watching The Joker so the joke I know f****** billion dollar movie where this guy kills everybody and Burn It To The Ground choose people on TV and here's the problem you kind of cheer for him to cheer for him if this is a movie but a bunch of people like look we're going to f****** end this corrupt system of capitalism start smashing Windows burning things part of you would be going let's see how this turns out interesting choice do they have a plan but then if the movie in the movie like if you saw these pallets of bricks just mysteriously appearing at these areas where people are scheduled to protest and where these these marches are supposed to go by like a what is the f*** is going on here yeah it's it's there's something else at play that's like trying to like push it over into that fantasy to move from the fantasy into the reality of friends think it's right wing people stores that are trying to start this sort of chaotic scene so that the military can be called in which would essentially Trump apparently did today oh yes is that something that happened after his speech was essentially saying that if they didn't call in the National Guard, I don't know if you can do that I don't think you can do that taking us martial law essentially in a weird way it goes against I mean like you were you know you're talking about left-wing people saying like it's the right wing and I'm sure there are right-wing people that are like winning for their point of view because they're like well we're doing and no one knows who it is and we're just doing it from the time I mean they've always done that Hitler burned he did that to incite the people of Germany to get behind him and he was going to take control the Citron Nero burn Rome same way I mean it was all done in order to get people excited about this idea of this one person saving them from this attack and that that is a been done forever you had a great video called 911 the road to tyranny is the first time I really understood that agent provocateur is our government strategy and he detailed like very this is like I guess it was like 2001 or 2002 that he put this video out and he detailed how the World Trade Organization when those people were protesting against the WTO and this is in Seattle yeah it was there okay so when you were you were there in 2000 what was there just before it blew up I actually don't know it's too early to early 2000s male 2000-2001 or something and these guys dressed exactly like that guy was talking about earlier real black face covered military issue outfits military shoes Vibram soled shoes all dressed the uniformly started smashing Windows smashing cars pushing over a post office box is lighting things on fire and then they wound up shutting down all the protests and even had they had a no protest Zone without showing up at work with WTO stick or your W-2 pin with a red line through it they made them take that pin off of their jacket before they went through the line because you couldn't have anything that was anything any any sort of a protest and crazy like this is all documented this film then they eventually all these guys who are the agent provocateur hold up in the building and then the police negotiated with them and then release them so there was some sort of an or order from higher up and they were all released and she's saying that use these guys The Used military people for some branch of the government who knows what the f*** they were who they were they use them to turn a peaceful protest about a legitimate concerns people have about the doings of the World Trade Organization and they turned it into a violent encounter that they could then justifiably bring in the police and shut everything down make sense they're worried about these brakes these bricks this is horseshit that this is this is done to shut down the peaceful protests where people are legitimately and righteously concerned about ending police brutality cuz it's been going on forever it's been going on too long yeah I mean yeah I mean it I just at this point it's like I don't I don't put it past any measure done by people that want to maintain their bottom line like they'll do whatever it takes and it's like again you know when it it comes to stuff like that I'm like I want to stay informed and when I returned those I want to keep those ideas in in mind and is the most simplistic way which is if you got a lot of s*** you can do whatever it takes to keep your s*** in the end you'll do all kinds of crazy s*** to try to maintain power and control and and what and what really sucks is that if you did the opposite if you did with that sheriff did you actually get not only get what you want but you get more yeah and that's what I don't understand the virus of doing evil badly that's what I good so I think of it as being very inefficient and terrible at being selfish and greedy if you were really selfish and if you're really greedy greedy you would make sure that the well-being of your population was Matt so that there was reverence for your position and if there's reverence for your position then you have the Goodwill of people it's easier to make things happen however you don't get that at the 5D chess reverence for your position and if there's reverence for your position then you have the Goodwill of people it's easier to make things happen however you don't get that at the 5D chess man I mean

rubber bullets that these cops are you he can't get f***** up is this and they just shooting them in the people yet directly I lost an eye that happened to announce that the WTO riots you know like one second you're like oh cool the chief of police is talking to the lead organizer and he's got his helmet off and everyone's I go this is cool they're all talking and then from behind the police lines you hear a bullhorn we're going to be launching tear gas please clear the area and like wait a minute you guys were just talking and said by someone that wasn't him and then suddenly turns into pandemonium in the next thing another dude loses an Arabic guy that I knew that was a friend of a friend lost his eye in the WTO riots because the guy that the police officer shot at him directly instead of bouncing it off the ground it's just like and it comes down to my gun my gun Guru dude that I was in a training with her for a film and that's kind of wants me back into into stuff but he was saying training training training like when it comes to police officers it's Community outrage reach being able to actually establish contact with you community so that you they can at least have some form of trust or someone that they can talk to you that they can relate to so they understand the police were there for the protection than the other thing is like training a lot of these officers are just like they're just sending them out and go and pay good luck deal with stuff as it happens and then some of the cats are like they don't know their anger gets the best of them someone's being indignant and they let you know what I'm going to lay it down I just think most people do not have the kind of permit in character to deal with being in the position of having control over the people really ultimate fatal control over other people I just don't think they have that I think most people I mean I think that takes a really powerful person and there are powerful people out there that handle it handle it well and they're great cops yes and then there's guys like that guy who put his f****** neon that man's neck for 8 minutes and 38 seconds or whatever it was and finally did the family got their own autopsy and they the autopsy showed the man did die from from not just his fixation but also from the blood being cut off to the brain which is really what it is it's a blood choke you cuz you're you're putting your shin on the side of the neck is cutting off the Carotid artery it's like a joke like I could you Jitsu choke you know need to get me to get ahead of this and sucking out just probably tell it like it is formed against him over the years and if you're copping you you you've noticed another of fellow officer in the field doing some s*** that they think is like not cool or just straight illegal whatever or they have a feeling that it's going to escalate with this person if they're if it's left on check they really it's hard for them to communicate to because there's this whole brotherhood loyalty thing that locks everybody until like this Code of Silence and it sucks because well it how do you expect Police Department's to get better police Amazon allowing themselves to get better some people that do step out they get in trouble if some people to do call out other officers for shady Behavior but there was one woman really recently I think it was either yesterday or today there was a guy and he's arguing with these protesters this male cop and this woman gets on her knees in front of him and said she's on her knees and he shoves her to the ground when she's on her knees and this female officer gets in nice face and starts yelling at him and he's worn him down yelling at him and it's all on video it's so there are example of a mob turn back or you get that sheriff from Flint Michigan did you see that video of that was amazing that was amazing and put him in that situation with those people yet it's a magro attitude he'd be yelling at people and tell him to shut the f****** push them away and probably escalated or imagined that cop within the other scenario is that woman on the ground and probably like me and I don't want you on your knees how you handle a situation in the moment and again if they had a little bit of training a little bit of training to say like stop before I think stop think then assess the situation and you know unless your life is in danger like you know but that these situations are not that these are cops that are like something happens there's like something clicks and there's chaos all around and the instinct is like essentially the same mentality as someone who's taking advantage of it on the other side that you were like that people to come out after the initial rage wave of like you know which is a natural kind of biological Instinct and it's a rebalancing but then they're the opportunist that sneak in behind the wave and those the people that you see like targeting in a very organized way targeting you stores know exactly where they're going to go and they're going to take advantage of these moments chaos instead of the majority wavelength which is just like yours know exactly where they're going to go either going to take advantage of these moments of chaos and then the cops see that and it's like will they kind of get on get in on that wavelength instead of the majority wavelength which is just like we're pissed we're emotional we're loud but we're allowed to do this

is there a struggle to find time like to demand as the time between work and family relationships and I had that accident accident was the the the best eye-opening experience ever and I mean it's it's I was married to my career dating my family right like I'm I'm all about this work and all about this hustle kranitz nothing wrong with it it's a good thing but after a certain point you got to prioritize accordingly when you when you get to a certain point where the decisions that can be made our little more control and you have the ability to maneuver differently because of the successes you've obtained make those adjustments I didn't make those adjustments I was still hustle hustle hustle credit crate Dad we're doing stuff I'm home I'm getting back home but my in-and-outs three days I am out 2 days 3 days I'm out I got to go from the movie y'all come down for the weekends all right I'll see you guys will eat dinner with do stuff and it's great cram it all in all right y'all got to go I'm working and it's not bad but now all right I'll from the movie after I'm done filming a movie while I got I need to take 30 days off I need to take 40 days off should me and the fam now and you go tour it was just a year-and-a-half we out for days out the f*** week-out year-and-a-half I got to get it now let's go a month and a half. For 3 weeks I'm with the fam so I still have my three days a week that I was here but then I'm going to stop at 3 weeks this is dedicated to Pam times and nobody do anything with me or talk to me, I'm home now office I was in that office when we f****** open office open at 9 I'm there 8 you know there's a chance that I may be in that office to f****** 6 now you have no matter what guys that day in the office has to end it like three I got to be home for dinner I got dinner with the fam my priorities have changed but it brings me back to the decisions that you're now able to make based off of lice circumstances life's lessons so because of all the s*** that I went through because of the things I now got to see because of that hospital room in those four walls and me seeing my family and what that love did for me into me or I'll be damned if I f****** look past that I'll be damned if I'm not do what I'm supposed to do and give that the same amount of attention and return when you going to do your thing with Norm again you got to swing we've been planning for a while now so now we're just going to we just need to put all the the nuts and bolts into place and then get it Go studio get a camera and inches do it but you're going to be the first guess I'm in or I could so I'll let you know being singer have a great story about Norm me and him on a plane and randomly this is crazy but true random like twice I sat next to him on planes just random oh yeah totally random but one time we're flying back and he's like yeah tell me all this month to stop smoking this that were talking soon as he went he walks right into the f****** store buys a carton of cigarettes and he's opening a cigarette he's a lighting it before he gets out the door and I go what are you doing with all that talk about smoke I had to have one and the flight from just like having an audience of one of the greatest is ever do you stocks yet. He's probably you know he's he's probably like in my top three favorite stand-up comics of all time and have been Norman Spade that just been so good to me and I love them both and they're both equally hilarious and different ways but Norm I'll never forget how quick he was he was hosting that podcast we had Larry King on one time and Larry was like give you a show you know the way cuz he was just f****** outlandish saying the most crazy f****** s*** to learn I always listen that's why I always learn from the gas because I'm always listening in order to me interrupt you there is the hidden King of the internet if he decided to have a podcast through the biggest podcast of all time I'm sure he's read the book several times okay good I need to talk to you about it you have the best fighters in the world can always match a good match but it's the first one that makes mistake is the one who loses that's where it and momentum is so important in sports momentum a mistake you're like a wave you slowly get a little bigger and he's totally get a little bigger now you start to capitalize because once they make a mistake that pattern starting to create and then once you got someone making mistake after mistake after mistake that's when you crumble on him and I feel like that's what he's done really well three fights prior to that he was just a capital able to capitalize on the big mistake but credit to Tony Tony is one of the most gangster dudes in this Sport and for him to go through the damage that he did a continue to walk forward is something unique is one of the coolest things to experience as a coach to sit there and watch his mental not change even when it cuz I was calling for the ref to stop the fight it about halfway through the 5th round and when he got hit with that last job and shook his head I don't think it was like I don't want to go on no more I don't know if it was the orbital cuz I know he had a little issue but there was something going on where his body is his shin from the check he was still kicking there's never getting cracked and it was super unique to watch but again it was it was great to see someone who can listen and understand that if you stay in control yourself that's the key to everything in this world if you listen to anything else on the outside and you start to adapt at the other things you never go live the way you want to live in to be a fighter you have to be in control yourself all the time their self fake it to you make it till you get to the championship and you have to live that way you have to obsess never being broken and even if you break except it in the next don't deal with it man I had such a bad day 0 good sit around and talk about shity day where did you store everything but was initially I didn't to be honest I didn't expect to see a Wolverine I never have and I just wasn't something on my Consciousness and so when I got the Moose I put all them meet up on the Shelf I built and thought man if a bear comes it'll be great I have a chance at a bear you know I'll wake up in the night and kind of be like a bait pile basically I was maybe expecting a bear to come but I went to sleep the first night I got the moose and woke up and it came out and they were just tracks everywhere somehow I hadn't woke me up but Wolverines a lots liar animal and you'd come and pulled out all the kidney fat I'd like a jug of kidney it was it was rough and so then he was pretty excited I'm sure Wolverine just kept coming back every day I figured out of there like I figured they were nocturnal but I'd be like out there in the middle of David come running up in like try to grab some meat and run off as I called he smokes those things bulb a photo of him sneaking around the butt which is gold up there Wauconda gun, I thought I would hear a bear coming but didn't think it will drink bears chasing Bears off the kill they didn't they did everything right in you know ya know maybe in hindsight is going to turn out that it was the right thing to do and then it stopped the spread of the virus and even though there was flare-ups here and there it made people more aware in the virus eventually goes away maybe it's possible but even if it's not the right thing to do I think people are just you know doing it out of caution because we don't know what it is but it's not the only strategy strategies that could be employed and they could have made people more card to send them protecting themselves that would have really greatly slowed the risk of transmission I think you could have let people stay working me tell people they can't work I don't I don't like that you know I don't like that not just because it's unconstitutional I don't like that because I don't like people telling people what to do and I don't like that because I don't like one person being in charge of figuring out what's right or wrong I know it's one person or a hundred people what's right or wrong for the entire state of 40 million people today and to make up the the mind for them based on what just cuz you have voted in the office that doesn't make any sense to me you should be dealing with like legitimate problems not controlling the population through some orwellian mandate we just deem it that everyone has to stay home then you even offer rewards for people in La the mayor was offering rewards for people turning people in who weren't social distancing search on somebody not wearing a mask or not doing what they say yeah yeah yeah this is a terrible idea you were encouraging people to turn people in for rewards do not understand psychology because people that have grudges against people these people that they don't like their neighbor hand sanitizer stay safe stay home watch her husband I'm going into a cop car that I know what the f*** they're doing man they don't know what the f*** they're doing no one knows what the f*** they're doing for them to tell us what to do like definitely you have to do no maybe you should do it that way maybe you should wear I'm asking you to stay home and don't don't tell me what to do Kaiser stay safe stay home watch her husband I'm going into a cop car so I know what the f*** they're doing man they don't know what the f*** they're doing no one knows what the f*** they're doing for them to tell us what to do like definitely you have to do no maybe you should do it that way maybe you should wear a mask and don't don't tell me what to do

that was really what life was like you started off as a single-celled thing and then that died in the next life to come back as a multi-celled organism and in that. And then you work your way to the worm World insect World a spider world with we're at the end of a long process that started not just biologically started with the the first single celled organisms but like that's a graduation that the life-form has to go through I think I'll be done but I think it would be cool if people had an idea that that's what was happening I think people would be a lot more mindful you'd be like cuz you've experienced every level along the way it would mean something to be at the level that we're at right yeah people wouldn't take life for granted as much because like man I have to go through every step of the way to get to hear you feel the same one you also run into people that seem like they got a f*****-up roll of the dice from the start like almost like even almost like they're starting out life at a deficit from another life like they owe money on their past life like their past life up so bad they're coming back in this one they're doing their best but you should pay the tickets off bro that's that's crazy is it so crazy that you do the same life over and over and over again until you get it right is that crazy I don't think it's crazy it's almost satisfying because it's like I'll have another shot at doing it right because this one wasn't his wanted wanted to be but I think that mine f**** you if you really knew that that was true you'd be so mind f*** you would I don't know if I'd be able to live in the moment concerned in their lives and I'm not worried about it we're not just that but you would be taking like what's the point it's just I'm just going to do this forever and ever and ever my cool with that you think the human mind wants like a like a kind of a structure and ending like they want to know how this ends in the shifts that we all agree are necessary like sleep like so we are have on and off and on and off and nobody violates that there's no no one gets to not go off on and off you could hold off off for a long time eventually I've been up for 48 hours is a part of this thing that we do so I think we take comfort in like having markers like it's lunch time so it's dinner time let's watch a show and then I'm going to take a shower and go to bed and get to these markers or that they're in your head and it kind of makes life makes sense like girl you just looking forward to the next thing and looking forward to the next thing but if you knew for a fact that this life goes on forever forever and ever and ever go on a millionaire you got to get it right right is this life doesn't give a f*** with the 1950s were like or what what cars people drove in the 70s light doesn't give a f*** it's just going to do the same thing again over and over and over and over and over again or some kind of maddening kind of crazy what if it's even worse what if you start off as a single-celled organism all the way through Furniture is real but what if you like you get to the top of the game and then boom start off as a bug and you go through the whole thing go to the whole thing all over again until you become you again the exact same you confronted by the exact same situations with different outcomes maybe like a hint like something the back and has like him and I think we've done this before don't do it this time amen but that's what yes you know that's that's what would changing and 9 Focus too hard yeah I sometimes I feel like you do you have something because we know that like dogs have like serious instincts man like crazy instincts are built-in they all have them where is that coming from where they get the information why do they know to smell piss why do they know that pee on the spot another dog did like I didn't have to teach my dog where to get that from I think it's getting it through its is genetics or programming that the ancestors of left in the Saints not blank slate dogs are not blank slates I mean they say everything has you know some kind of level of of programming even planted the molecular level they say they have like kind of like a binary code in there if you look deep down inside I've read stuff online and is like I kind of believe that it's all part of like some kind of program of some sort slate dogs are not blank slates I mean they say everything has you know some kind of level of of programming even planted the molecular level they said they have like kind of like a binary code in there if you look deep down inside I've read stuff online and is like I kind of believe that it's all part of like some kind of program of some sort

it's going to be real weird to see what happens when they going to take for us to even out cuz it's going to your Rocky restart Rocky soon stay home stay home enough we can't just stay home forever this is not a valid strategy for dealing with a virus does not work is all this talk all this talk like it is if anyone has the correct answer it is sad yeah. Maybe in hindsight is going to turn out that it was the right thing to do and then it stopped the spread of the virus and even though there was flare-ups here and there and made people more aware in the virus eventually goes away maybe it's possible but even if it's not the right thing to do I think people are just you know doing it out of caution because we don't know what it is but it's not the only strategy there was other strategies and could be employed and they could have made people more condescending protecting themselves that would have really greatly slowed the risk of transmission and I think you could have let people stay work tell people they can't work I don't I don't like that and you know I don't like that not just because it's unconstitutional I don't like that because I don't like people telling people what to do and I don't like that because I don't like one person being in charge of figuring out what's right or wrong I don't know it's one person or a hundred people what's right or wrong for an entire state of 40 million people to run and to make up the the mind for them based on what Basin just cuz you have voted in the office right that doesn't make you should be dealing with like legitimate problems not controlling the population through some orwellian mandate we just deem it that everyone has to stay home then you even offer rewards for people in La the mayor was offering rewards for people turning people in who weren't social distancing yeah that's your setting people up to yeah it's a good thing which is normally it's snitches get stitches turn people in for rewards do not understand psychology because people that have grudges against people these people that they don't like their neighbor stay safe stay home watch your hair then I'm going into a cop car cuz I know what the f*** they're doing man they don't know what the f*** they're doing no one knows what the f*** they're doing for them to tell us what to do like definitely you have to do no maybe you should do it that way maybe you should wear I'm asking you to stay home and don't don't tell me what to do muscari magic catch their plate you should turn that in because you're a good citizen and should they want to give up the information about that crime with there's a license plate or description we got a video or some like that you do that because you're a good person you don't want your mom to get robbed like that you do that because you don't want your name to get robbed you can do that because there's a problem in your community there's a person is committing a crime and as a community we organize we look we look out for each other it was found on his person f****** up like the Inception of this program wasn't it like a like a neighborhood watch program and you always see Neighborhood Watch program how much are they watching in the people so lazy this is kind of what there's a bunch of actual rewards up here right now they're looking for information on a bunch of shootings and $25,000 reward they don't have the time to show many things are going on in LA are all the times somebody breaks in your house like you did you die we got to do what is it that they don't have the time they don't have the time to show many things are going on in LA are all the times somebody breaks in your house like you did you die we got s*** to do a full-time Colombo on the job of the f****** dusting for fingerprints that kind of bandwidth there's no way

that's the crazy thing right like you don't you're not just doing something bad filming tips before you go out to have a camera cuz I've been like fur trapping in Siberia it's like you're just alone alone and everything you do just feels like nobody's ever going to know about it like I've been out there for a few weeks and I came into like ice beautiful Woods in Siberian L&I member being like the first time I've spoken out loud in like 3 weeks tell you when they give you the camera equipment and tell you to go out and film yourself how much battery life do you have why you got this big like car battery size pack that you can like recharge your batteries with and then they'll occasionally come on like Med checks to to see make sure you're not too skinny or something like that give you a bell to ring or something. It's the thing you would give up with like if you were ready to tap out of red. play dependent not just on you succeeding but documenting every you guys have to document everything we need 8 hours of footage a day minimum so when you're swinging a wolverine if you got all that on film and because my hands were a long ways away and that's kind of where it came so that would be a giant distraction because there was a different moose that I'd shot at that I totally missed but big giant dinosaur his legs are stupid. It was a real kick in the pants of the night like in the morning hit the cans and I figured I would just warn me want you know if something hit the Kansas would wake me up and I can go out and try to hunt it what actually happened is he went through the cans scared himself and ran like perfectly in my direction and turned around and looked at the Cannes like broadside to me like I came out and it was just a perfect shot but it was 40 I Pace it off afterwards 43 yards and he was such a big animal that I thought he was closer so I put them in like 30 yards guessing you know and I missed my first and only shot did you call him in every day I would just pick berries call Moose literally it was a good Berry Patch just sit there and eat berries and call and eat berries and call and yeah I think both the bull moose that I saw came into that calling because it would take him a long time in the morning vocal mimic their voice with your voice yeah I think about mooses how many people made it to a lot of people just threw toughness you know I just starving out like do do you know who you were pointing out yes just catching a few rabbits here and there you know the fishing is a big thing he not like it was nice to have the moves someone would but I mean again with a recurve it's pretty hard plus you and haven't ever scouted your territory so you don't know how things are going because I was so focused on getting one right from the bat like right when they drop my helicopter off it was like I went out and scouted like where might moose come in and you know like yeah building a shelter away from where moose might walk by so that I wouldn't blow up a spot that kind of stuff so how did the other people what did they eat today's it was a girl named Juanita and she and another guy named Nathan made it you know the his shelter burnt down and I was kind of in for him both of them made it right up to 71 72 days is chopping all up everything that's nuts f****** Ball Z people to do this good for everybody that sounds of it raining in a day as much as I could I was just tired I guess I was having fish so I would have fish for lunch and then breakfast in like dinner at moose and I was just a basic I told myself well I can't quit until I finish this home

we're doing that project trying to get me know guys from Detroit to stop drinking out in Siberia we had like a little hunting cabin we were based at and I woke up one morning and we had a stupid dog that just barked at everything and I just hear the block like less than a hundred we could have watched the whole thing if I would have just woke up right away but it came to kill the Moose right next to our cabin when we came out it sauce and took off running and when I come in so we walked over there like she's a whole warm still here out there barking and it felt like a ghost in the Darkness cameras I handed the gun to this dude then he's just like I figured he knew what he was a bad choice but I got my camera he got the gun and then again we're looking at where the dogs barking and the bear like pops up right here and stand up it's like and do just took off running with the the full almost a minute later I was just like they're like I'm not going to situation but what they would likely like cut the head off and put a size under a rock because they didn't want the like Spirit to see what are aware who got it so they are in the village so that the bear thinks those are the people although you can if you boil the heck out of it over 160 right now yes I don't know I felt like his muscles like you can feel the little the little parasite worms everything is in pain but I know that some people who eat bear have cut open the bear and seen the worms literally crawling underneath the skin you can see him even on the bear that they're in there they're like bear big old brown bear I mean it wasn't an old one is probably it's hard to say but it was a full-grown yes I'm where I put up a picture of the hide but anyway he has a big bear I don't actually know what I did with that video which is very sad interacting with him when you're always in the woods like that happy people the guys talking about losing his favorite hunting dog to death that happened the way they do dogs over there they think you're interesting cuz I have a different dog for every type of animal so if you got like a dog that's really good at rainbirds and you got a dog that's could have gone after bears and you got to get dog is good and stable give dog had a nose just randomly either white mutts looking things are not very big but they're not small is average sized dogs and the dogs like texting pretty happy but they also like to go out and super cold weather and this dog love melted a big hole in the snow and it snowed on top of it and it like pops yeah it's eating motion like certain scraps and stuff but yeah I would not an enviable diet they had their usually kind of thin but but

how are you catching fish if you brought them up. Paul and rigged up a little thing that made me so I could cast and I could cast a long ways out and it was the funniest fishing I've ever done similar to what they use in Soviet likes old Soviet reels so I had been the gave me the idea for making that style that Realtors are just so basic you know and and it takes a little practice to use but anyway we rigged it up or work great I could cast way out there took me a long time to catch my first fish a few weeks but after I did I kind of like dial the van and it was Sunday dried moose meat and they loved it so I was just catching them all on moose meat or like fish belly and I catch a fish and cut out a strep test strip then they love that and it was mostly lake trout but some of them over 20 lb paracord I was I was just testing out making like a fly line out of paracord their leader as well like using a paracord and like Brayden it down that's not that that's not the thing I was just experimenting did you bring fishing hooks relations or something finally wears itself out which you know it take stripping the line in or you do you have had my little real so I could like put my thumb on it and it would like a dragon seating for a couple days between eight and twenty something out there you know starving and you need fat it's like a lot of times I would eat the fish and kind of put the main Meat part of it away for later but you need to belly the head all the Daddy's Hands all your fish made into to get all the nutrients out of the you find any edible vegetables or anything

what about fat do you need fat that's why you eat the whole animal you know suck the brain out of the rabbit try to get every bit of fat you can get in. I learned a lot about that out there because then I got a lot of rabbits and squirrels early on but I still just lost weight as fast as if I wasn't eating it felt like Just Energy start eating it was like maybe enough to make up for the energy I was expanding by running around like I don't think I lost fat their weight faster than someone that was just sitting there has been about the same but I was able to run around have fun we're moving and stuff so you didn't have any supplies that you it's it's a fascinating experience when that helicopter drops you off flies away and you're even ever scouted this place before you didn't get to choose where you're at as flies away and have to leave here potential sustainability boiling on my water but then I just slowly drink bits of Raleigh water until I could pretty much just drink while Raul water because it was it was a big old Lake up in the far north it's like pretty clean and I didn't get sick but done in Siberia too and it's always forget even in like moss puddles it's like this yellow water but know this differ I didn't go so you for shelter tarp was one of the things we took so I built a little like a frame shelter just out of logs covered it and like chinked it with moss but the frame of it I spent less time on shelter more time like for curing food in hunting Sonos a quick shelter through it up I knew I mean I've lived in a teepee in that weather so I'd like knew I was going to be fine on the cold as long as I could provide enough calories to keep my body warm how many days it take you before you got an animal rabbit on day one that was nice and then I continued to get rabbits but it was 23 days when I got a moose so that was yeah cuz you definitely eating more fat than you are protein tillage rice stores of fat and stuff so where did you store everything but was initially I didn't to be honest I didn't expect to see a Wolverine I never have and I just wasn't something on my Consciousness and so when I got the Moose I put all them meet up on the Shelf I built and thought man if a bear comes it'll be great I have a chance at a bear you know night and kind of be like a bait pile basically I was expecting to come but I went to sleep the first night I got the moose and woke up and I came out and they were just tracks everywhere somehow I hadn't woke me up but Wolverines a lots liar animal and you'd come and pulled out all the kidney fat I'd like a jug of kidney that was like you know weeks of fat there I would find it it was it was rough and so then he was pretty excited I'm sure every day I figured there like I figured they were nocturnal in the middle of the day heads up Michelle are you sneaking around the butt who's fat contains roughly 35 thousand calories Wauconda I thought I would hear a bear coming but didn't think I will drink I'm not shocked ferocious little things in Tucson what are muscle ball like going to eat him I was actually killed it with my axe but when you do that you've got to eat the heart out of it so I cut it open and a drumstick of course but it tasted like skunks so you what you ate is drumstick and that's it the right organs for the vitamins in the rest of them for bait for something what I mean to be fairly still a lot of fat on a moose I get those all the ribs you know that the butt that Trump has a big old thick layer fat you got the bone marrow once I lose that now I'm at a disadvantage again so they put the fire under me to keep getting more but he must be like closes eyes snuck away and I never I'm leave from behind the bush opportunity the next day I saw him again the next night coming down through some shrubs and hide like set up some Warning Systems around like cans on string so I'd hear him coming and I heard like like like like do the grounds look like top of the arrow was in the branches and it just gave me enough time to grab my axe run over there he was just like those little guys terrified I wasn't a cool like you picture me like

when you say you do other things like what do you think you'll do when you stop fighting I'm still passionate by I want to be a marriage counselor a marriage counselor that wasn't what if I won finals what I'd be that is hilarious I was always I think personally I was always very good at being able to step back from situations and what's going on keep a level head and being able to dissect what's going on outside and give advice and an N I do this with my friends were my friends tell you like think of you Boy tell you a story like this happened with my daughter's mom my mom my wife for this and that you know she she came home and she sat there and all that and then she take me out of the house when she's wrong for this but when they're telling the story it might have know why but in my head how I'm taking it in is he said all she called me a b**** what did you say before that naturally that goes into my head what did you say before that and then she threw this at me when everyone tells your story when they say there's three sides to every story that yours hers I literally live like in my mind that's what goes on when someone's telling me a story but you know how funny it is that you want to be a marriage counselor brain surgeons will be a fighter pilot marriage counselors office number 100 like that's definitely not real accounts of some sort of shape and mold what I want to leave this when I leave this world I want to leave it better than when I came in or when I live through it I want to leave it better situation but one thing you can do you had you can have a tremendous impact on young people because of what you've accomplished wave come from how inspirational you are and then just a physical difficulties you're dealing with while you're doing that with your injuries and all the the preparation that you have to do to fight for the title in your honesty about it when people order a young person here's your story like that it'll make them think like a with hard work but anything is possible with the right mindset in the right discipline almost anything is possible yes absolutely anything is possible because you know where everybody thinks nowadays I'm limited I can't do that because of this I can't do it again and it's funny cuz of my daughter sometimes you know we'll be more time you know her shoes were there was a certain point where I'm taking her entire shoes and she gets her phone when she can do it she's doing it and doing it and then she'll just decide one day that she doesn't want to do it so she'll play this game I can tell you I can't do it why why can't you do it she's like because I'm for I can't do it cuz I'm only 4 so I don't know how to do it my way you did it yesterday right you can do it no I can't do it I don't know how to do it and like she mentally she just wants to feel that she can't do it because everyone's I call you for years old she knows she's 4 years old so she wants to just come for so I should be do I don't want to do it and I might know you can do anything that you want to do or she'll be outside playing soccer so I got her into soccer and she's like no I can't I am not good I can't play I can't I don't know how to do it but yeah you can do it no but I know I didn't get the ball today I don't know how to play on you can do anything you want to do if you put your mind to it baby you can do anything and it sits out and when I even when I say that to her I might she's only five but if I say by the time she's 10 it's going to stick in her mind it's there until that the fact that people live go through life like that now all I can do it because I'm nothing I can do I'm not supposed to do it might do people just feel like no I shouldn't be able to do it but it's a matter of putting the work in like you can't tell somebody like if they do something well enough over and over and over and over and over and over there not going to improve you going to get good at sucking at some point like you were going to improve and some people just don't want to try sometime because I just like I can't do it I can't be good enough of that so I won't do it and not and I learned that lesson the hard way because when I started wrestling I used to see there was this this is poster that Asic put out USA rest and they put out this poster of the best wrestlers in the country in high school and I remember the first time I went to Fargo I was looking at the poster and nurse looking kids I mean it's 1-1 KJV super nerdy glasses I just like Mike you know the kind of kid that you would like I know kids picked on in my school and then I I hear the nasty the name I read the name like here in like all okay I don't know that is because he's from other state in Pennsylvania or something and then I can hear through the loudspeaker they call they like all the is retinol Matt one to deny look am at 1 and yeah he looks goofy goofy looking kid she walk up to the Matt takes his glasses off puts it down goes out there and just whips the s*** out of these other kids like I mean he was rolling kids up I'm like what I'm like what what Rollin kids up I don't think if he can do it in and you know that's the kind of kid that you would look at and judge my arm and I can believe this kid I'd be a bad day for a bully

circumcision you know agree with that right now really yeah cuz I'm not like the passionate about that or you yeah people lose their dicks a lot of kids every year to do children die from that big children all the time is very comment like multiple children per year lose their penis from an unnecessary Antiquated operation will you cut off their dicks to make it look different kind of cutting skin off of their dick and they wind up getting infected and they lose their text its it mean it doesn't happen all the time it happens enough time where you go this should never happen this isn't completely unnecessary operation Robert Bay going to make 229 deaths per year from circumcision the United States Bollinger estimated apparently approximately 119 infant boys die from circumcision related each year in the u.s. 1.3% of all male neonatal deaths from all causes there's several case reports of death in the medical literature yeah it's not simple you're cutting skin skin is an organ your you you have an unnecessary uncircumcised of an unnecessary operation you doing to an infant and it's decorative and I add a joke it's like how many of them have to die before we say this is a ancient ridiculous ritual doesn't make any sense for and against like that it's prevent STDs like let me know. I prevent STDs condoms and abstinence that's what prevents STDs and end in some cases vaccination this is what prevents STDs this circumcision is ridiculous stumbled into this cuz I was talking about Andrew Yang f***** up I guess I did I didn't know this was like a strongly-held during intactivist is that what they're called until I mean it's not as disgusting what would they do to women's clitorises and Indian answer that makes yes it's a different reason for doing it to lighting the kid this is there in that Community is their acceptance is there open is it just about like they don't give a fuk just as long as you're a real pal Gander yeah yeah yeah long ago and he's just like the community of the strongman this so is awesome because like we all realize what we have to do to get this level of support we all have to be a little bit of you know sick and twisted in the head to look at a truck and get excited to pull it so s*** no long as you're okay I mean you're doing your job like that's all that really matters and we know some that are in the closet and we're like, on man just no one cares come out here right okay that's why I was a late bloomer in the gay world was it like when you were in high school and when do you know you know I don't know that I have like I don't remember it like I never had like an aha moment per say for me it was going through high school like I was involved in a bunch of stuff you know it was a cheerleader actually also played football with doing the weight lifting thing like the class president so I had my hands in a bunch of different pots College super into everything is well really just focus on school and actually dated a girl for like a year and a half in college and college Yeah Boy know so but did you like oh damn I wish you was a boy I bet she's cool but it was more like a friendship in a relationship Elsa's really going on when you came out with she like I broke up with her because you know me while he know I'm dating this girl but I'm watching gay p*** when she's not around like this isn't right there something else going on here so did you like was it gay p*** like finding a poor me like that's what I like pretty much really my best friend the reason this one night we were up on the roof drinking and smoking weed and he we got to talk him just about life and he was actually born with a heart defect I can't remember the exact name of the disease that he had was in the hospital so is whole life use eventually going to need to get a heart transplant and they're going to do their life was asking me what I want to do when I got to the Moon and what do you mean what is my life well I always wanted to fight and expecting him to laugh at me about this he's like why don't you why don't you do it you know I told him I watch old already I was 18 at the time I thought he felt ancient then you know when I told him all my reasons and all my fears and doubts and in all these things he's like you know women just like if anybody can do it you can he's like I think you should and I really that I was stuck with me Patrick Meehan continue to drink and all these other things I just put a suppressed it into the back of my mind and then about a year later he was in the hospital and he needed to get heart transplant and they basically it was basically at that point was like you're going to be here until you get one or you're going to die and you know I don't think any of us realized how serious it was or maybe we just didn't want to he ended up passing away while he was waiting for the transplant end that just obviously devastated me to no end and threw that knife through my drunken coping me outside I'm going to do this I'm going to go after this dream you know my friend he didn't even get a chance to fail at a dream and I'm too scared even tried for no reason just out of fear that much literally in my only reason not to do this other than you know Financial beer and I was like you know what I'm going to do I'm going to go after this for him you know he didn't get a chance to live on my on my live for the both of us but you know fortunately his his deaths at me even harder down that downward spiral of alcohol and depression and three years later I just had a realization one day as if he was still alive the f*** out of me for wasting my life I've been wasting my life Forever 21 is because of afraid you know I'm afraid and am I'm too afraid to fail to afraid of all these stupid reasons that that all of us give ourselves in order to make ourselves feel better about not going after things but really they're just that I just said they're just excuses are just things that make you feel better and that b******* they're all b******* almost every excuse we have is total b******* cuz there's people with those excuses and with all those reasons and more and now then they do it like what is your excuse it was it right away like it just you just walked into the lions den of people doing drug who is the f****** who's patient zero like who cuz it was wasn't that many of you right now I think that I think that came to stay there until early in the morning but we were serving drinks and half the people that attend Hulkamania sitting around and and four or five other guys in the other guys are cops there in the drinking what cuz what is this place and we had heard about the ding hoes like it was spoken in hushed tones and I was like you know that's where it started what closed in a happy because he the owner lost left the club and playing Chinese dominoes sport demands a different perspective it's an it's not the same thing as a ball going into hoop and I'm not the same thing as crossing a line with a football different it's very intense and very personal and it's also very f****** dangerous and two to play it off like it's just a game I just I don't agree with it and I just think that we have plenty of f****** people out there that understand the sport there's plenty of them yet but the thing about him is he's really popular and Jamie was when you say Giant. because he's so his personality is so fun it's fun God watching people love s*** talking to people arguing about shed one person's better an argument and then Stephen A Smith is really good at that stuff but it's not the place for MMA it's just not the same thing it's not because because the guys themselves fight you know when you see what happened last night what Kansas and Kansas State or whatever they started throwing punches or just like it look like a bunch of girls to a Windows you know what I mean like to talk about a guy who can't show up on game day talk about a guy who keeps dropping the ball talk about God and you s*** on those guys but it's just a different thing with fighting and it's also with fighting but you you you have to know it or no one's going to respect you if you don't know what you're talking about and you're talking about in front of millions of people like man that's a bad look for everybody up it's a bad luck for ESPN that's a bad look for him it's bad luck for the sport it's like there's other people that can do this you have to know it or no one's going to respect you if you don't know what you're talking about and you're talking about in front of millions of people like man that's a bad look for everybody up it's a bad luck for ESPN that's a bad look for him it's bad luck for the sport it's like there's other people that can do this

Beacon spooky cardio let's talk about Tony Ferguson research on him leading up to the fight I'd never really showed him any respect up until like I he's just occasional sloppy's this is that once I did the research on him leading up to our fight it impressed me what impressed me was dude the guy can take a shot give a shot the guy doesn't slow down the guy doesn't care where the fight goes anytime you have somebody who doesn't care what the fight goes it changes them Amicus how you approach him cuz you take a nap what does that matter how tall is he doesn't care if he stays Lafitte guess what he keeps his distance in his range of his long-range push kicks in his and his Jabs in his combination she doesn't care where the fight goes neither does khabib but obviously could be would like to keep the fight on the ground press against the fence doing work what he's done and it continues to work in does does what he does best. Look for me I feel like the only way that Tony went is by a cut I don't think I don't think I don't think that he can stop him now. I'm not saying it can't happen we we understand like when cut Tappan deal with more slippery things slide in a lot faster okay especially in that dark position like he's really good at that Darcy from any direction he made it from Toledo from Asgard and let it from his but he'll hit it from anywhere so if you're hanging out with the placement of his head in the right spot it could be a really really tough night for him he's got all the intangibles to become world champion I don't I'm he's already a former in the interim Champion which I still considered him leave with the Champions. I have nothing bad to say about him I just think that physically strong key is not and I and I don't want not knocking him just the same strength-wise he's not in his hands will go around yours probably twice his fingers wrapped all the way around my hand almost engulfment early so that makes the power no not just that but when there was a moment there where he hid his control so when I got into his guard he grabbed my wrist and I couldn't get my arm free and in the meantime he's overly my head now I got to Mercedes-Benz Cuts right here in the front if khabib gets put in his guard it could end up being a tough fight because it cuts Cuts happen and when they do happen you have a shaved head there's nothing stopping him from flowing right into your into your eye your eyebrows are not going to stop all that blood and if you recall member the Joe daddy Stevenson fight in a fight where you eat do you shave your head your head is your hair's always really show her to know it's it's not going to look good to the to the judges are to the doctor and things like that and like I brought this up this fight in New York extra cautious in New York right now cuz the relatively new sport is what I believe I believe you know and then I believe they have that death of that Boxer that was there so then that it just they're just trying to make sure which I understand like the safety the fighter down most important yeah I would prefer that being in Vegas yeah yeah

can we watch if you ever watch American Idol and how come you only know how come you're not having it you're not a star yet because I don't know how the business Works how to get in front of people that can make me a star it's what we started about this week cuz Brandon was saying that if you're not in the UFC you're not s*** now I mean I think that's a crazy perspective cuz when I look at like we're talking about Lima like there are guys out there like I look at Lehman I go he might be able to beat everybody I really believe that. Guys f****** terrifying we knocked out Michael Venom page yeah he might be able to beat everybody to say no like to come on man what is f****** leg kicks Maddie tortures guys with those leg kicks he's so powerful let's hear something though let's not forget when Roy left he was still one of the top guys UFC and just because but what does very well is he he develops The Narrative and then the media runs with that narrative very well so they date before he even before they even put pen-to-paper Dana's already wrote the story for that because he knows cavemen are just like you and I are talking about earlier with Connor he made Donald Cerrone Cowboys bad look that good that narrative was written for all the media to go ahead and follow because that's before they will pay the paper that's what the narrative was he wrote The Narrative for them I just feel that like look there's guys out there that can cross boards all across them is one of them Patrice one of them there's guys I think it a hundred 35 lb have that can do it as well we've got tons of got notches us even in one but I would put our guys I would have been on the ER but I just say because I came from Strikeforce and we got no respect man it was so hard Joe I'm telling you guys had a great with the UFC when realize how many of them became Champions Luke rockhold and how many of them were world-class God was Saucy there's so many got Tim Kennedy got so many guys came over from Strikeforce remember this is I've been getting criticized for not criticize I've been being taught been told for years that I was never a top guy for years because I was in Strikeforce right and I said well I also know what that the guy didn't UFC are making and I'm making more and Strikeforce so I'm going to stay here like at the end of the day to me it's about making money like this is this is I'm a prize fighter that like this is the only sport MMA is the only sport where you have these names of these organizations and they're more like boxing nobody gives a f*** was a WBC title for the WBO title they don't care they care is it Deontay Wilder fighting I want to see him fight Tyson Fury I don't give a f*** if it's for the bubblegum title it doesn't mean anything to me but for MMA for some reason because the promotions become like the NFL or the NBA it becomes the big thing we know this world-class is everywhere it's not like basketball or football where the best guys are definitely playing in the NFL this so many different organizations and I almost feel like Fighters are hampered by the names of these promotions I almost think like we'd all be better off if it was just MMA you know to call it the UFC the problem with that is it's great because everybody knows is a very high-quality to the UFC Advanced the production values amazing it is so much attached to it and so much but at the end of the day it's about MMA fights that's what it's about and whether it's in Bellator 1fc it's about how good are these matchups how good are the fighters what am I going to say well and I believe it all started when I believe it all started when credentials were taken away from top anime media organization our website and saying hey if you don't like what you say you're not going to get a credential so then they replace they brought in the mid other media websites are whatever was USA Today at whatever was other media sites it came in and just said it's all about UFC it wasn't a sport anymore it was a UFC brand and we had the best fighters and once you took away chertok's credentials you do all the other people that were doing what other companies at that time they took those credentials way now whoever came in was like they're going to do it to the big time you know a website why would they would do the same to me if I don't toe the line and that all the sudden became like Fighters now when you see them it's all about UFC it's not about anyone that they're doing like you as a fighter I think look even though it's an individual Sport and I'm sure you guys should be pumping your organization I get it but you should also be pumping you because after you're done the UFC will be fine you need to worry about building your brand whatever it is you do to make you big it's also I'm off for the organization your station does a lot for spiders I'm not to piss on any company or any organization they need to make sure though that they're doing what they can to make as much money as they possibly can't like to go back to the Strikeforce I was making almost double with the guys were making in the top five in the UFC at the time now there was a lot of talk about backroom bonuses and this and that but I wasn't privy to a couple of back your bonuses when we got bought out and I was over there they were not what I was making on the other side of the throat so just to give you an example I'm over there like a while you're making that they were like well what are we going to do we only have one fight left and I think what he caught a match or at least beat it you don't like what I'm making now in the light in the in the thought process was where the f*** am I going to go low Joshua, f****** step on your own dick year how long and I know and if Scott was going to stick with UFC or if he was going to try to go do his own promotion again I might know a lot of a lot of my relationships are come from people that have been around with Coker to me is I think one of the best guys if not the best I've ever done business with I've learned a lot from watching him on how he approaches not just Fighters but the promotion itself you know the one thing I admire the most about him is that like you just don't you don't need this s*** on other people like the UFC you're one to say that my renovations you take that martial arts attitude and approach to a lot of things and he never I've never heard him say bad things about Dana White never in the public a private conversation and I have golf with I play golf with them a lot I have lunch with them a lot I've never once they hit heard him say anything bad about Dana White or anybody else in the UFC that's not his approaches approaches I'm going to have fights I'm going to try to make my guys that are Fighters as much money as I can and my organization to do something that we're going to do and let them do what they're going to do the UFC that's not his approaches approaches I'm going to have fights I'm going to try to make my guys that are Fighters as much money as I can and my organization to do something that we're going to do and let them do what they're going to do I appreciate that he's a very universally loved guy I would really like cross-promotion fights

what's my ecobee will make space to throw punches which could get them in trouble against somebody like him cuz his left-handed f****** nasty f****** ridiculous thinking to myself this is hands-down the greatest MMA one round fight ever seen in my life it was a man ever had amazing he just wore him out but he just put that f****** Nick Diaz Pace on them and warm out but when he clipped them and rock them in and dropped him I was like oh my God puppy leaking to stop Nick Diaz is crazy the history of Nicki has started with Robbie Lawler like to come on motherfuker elevated level I called walked into the Octagon it started like what is happening here if you don't understand this is so funny how I have talked I was talking to John in a day or so I was saying like a nap so damn tired when guys talk to me come on get up like their butts do something I'm a f****** sub you I'm going to do this I'm going to do that and you're just like shut up man shot was going to punch you harder and it makes you more tired than the fact that Nick was doing it and out cardio in him explain the opposite of your Legend Do not sit down there like that you're a friend and that's what people talk to me all the time about my fight with Nate and I say look man nothing but respect for both those guys guys as well. Brought with Mayhem Miller Jake Shields Nick Diaz but guess what that whole scrap pack that they die for each other and you can't knock friendship like that and I look at those guys and they're really good people from Gilbert Melendez his wife Carey Nick and Nate and Jake Jake's I still one of my good goodbye still is as well but even though I don't talk to you anymore really like but it still greed and you know Nick Diaz change the game in terms of his Elite cardio he did something that it was a new thing and that new thing was he's not going to hit you with a hundred percent power he's going to hate with you percent what is going to hit you twice as much you never get to breathe and he's going to stay on top of you and he's going to talk to you the whole time so he's going to f*** with you psychologically he's going to disrupt your breathing by constantly hitting you and then once he realizes you're hurt and on top of that black belt Jiu Jitsu skills down good wrestling takedown defense f****** chin made of iron and an Unstoppable will I just will to beat you was just Unstoppable when Nick was at the top and Strikeforce to this day I think he's on the best fighters it's never done it yet to this day I agree. Otherwise I'll lose my time and I'm only got five more miles until I get to the losing your mind is an athlete you're always taking like I'm almost there I'm only going to run to the to the 2-minute Mark Hamill going to run to the five you set goals for yourself as you go should I smash to go take one more go ahead and those are things that top athletes do and I feel like that's what he's done with his career to help get him there Just a Touch. Bam Bam that's next level boxing that we hadn't seen them at the time in sparring with Andre Ward on a regular basis I mean he did he did really changed cardio of his he has some spooky cardio

I looked at your Instagram yesterday and you had that video of Stephen A Smith and immediately I was like oh my goodness this explains so much play this play the playlist Jamie watch this watch this first of all someone needs to explain to me what's Happening Here just going to cut him a little bit of slack only am I serious we have this year's English Strike Force we had kind of a similar situation not like this though by dohe with Gus Johnson remember that makes people like oh wow their grip to the TV this I can understand what Steven it but this is from Twitter first one got a broken orbital bone okay he's a quitter his face mask he got cracked by one of the biggest punches in the sport he he has the most wins in the sport he has the most wins by finished he has the most bonuses I mean come on his the most fights come on hear you calling that guy quit if he got cracked that's what happens if fighting is the only sport do you get ended early right Frontline was so strong your f****** quarterback was so badass you could storm a football game and 40 seconds to be a different sport my concern with him though was that hit like it look at his fine just did the video I get it like you're trying to learn either top guy in any organization I don't care but UFC Bell on one of them every time we're not slapping the puck or hitting a baseball K we're really out there getting hurt when someone calls you a quick that you better be saying should be careful like watch his back but don't expect us to be very curious to you next time you walk in the hall different thing there's the the emotional cost of losing a fight is so much different than losing a game it's not the same and there's a culture in sports broadcasting whether it's radio or television this just diminishing of people there's a s*** talking that goes with sports you know people love it's cuz if you're on the job site and you listen to the radio in your you know you're f****** hammer nail gel mentality that goes along with that kind of sports radio sports guy talk I hate that s*** I've resisted that from the beginning of s*** on those guys from the beginning because it's not the same thing you're not talking about the same thing you're unbelievable physical consequences ya know it's true but everything else who is that you're criticizing someone for being a quitter and someone who's been been there on every level of the game but not only that but you look like you've never played basketball or baseball or any other sport in your life either I'm sorry you cannot criticize people to be able to talk show like you're saying those talk show radios that's the energy you need to bring them your conversation with them but you cannot can't look like sorry man culture the culture of the sport with masks album is a different animal mask over his incredibly knowledgeable when it comes to sports and it really so when it comes to boxing he's not s*** talk he's just more honest about fantastic career that's why and he carries that over to MMA I think it's a bad idea is it a stick though that's my thought my process like you know how Shale has the camera turns off Kobe has it's not that person in real life play is like one of the best impressionist ever he does like he does John Travolta and all these different even is amazing and inexact would you all these Impressions and you would do this guy The Dice Man and it would do these f****** Rhymes and he put his jacket on and everybody love that so much he just became the Dice Man and then after a few years he was a Dice Man 24/7 he's wearing his leather jacket happens to people sometimes we're people love one thing you have to lean into your fans and I think Stephen A Smith I don't know him as a human being I've only met him a couple times. Nice guy nice guy to me we had a nice conversation on are we had a little weirdness cuz he was just saying we didn't learn anything about yeah I agree with you 100% but he did learn something I learned something for him like somebody who taking that that amount of time off and I'm going to say this to be frank obviously I work for belethor and I do a lot of work for them but the thing is you can't have to give credit where credit is due I give credit to all the fighters is enough. One look Eddie to me is one of the best of the five powers that ever walked the face of the Earth the Greek model McGregor to me I thought he did things in that fight against could be that no other guy has been able to do. If you want around that's something new do people sell welcome you took the Rama Yankovic maybe he try to finish him at the end of the second but the bottom line is he still won the round and there's not only that but it was a lot of times and opportunities were could beat had a hard time getting the takedown we didn't see that against guys with wrestling background like Abel Trujillo and those other guy when he was playing around winning record basically for the most takedowns in one fight yes there's tons of things that Connor does the people Overlook an underestimate because he's such a knockout artists and he's so good and his stance his style he brought this to the next level and you cannot discredit what he's done in the sport what I learned from that is that from somebody who can take 15 months off and come back and perform the way that he did against someone like Donald cerrone's absolutely amazing that's what I you need guys like you doing post-fight commentary And discussing these you not people who don't understand the sport and practiced it punches I want to ask you this though cuz it was funny cuz I can see your face in the middle of it all awkward is that for this game between the two of them and go what are you guys f****** talking about I mean I would have preferred to talk to DC or Felder or you or where anybody who understands the sport I don't think it's the right way to do it the one gentleman to my right Michael Jamie what is his last name he was great and it did Stephen Smith was very nice to me too and he said he's going to get in the podcast I have no problem with him as a human being I don't know jackshit about baseball I Don't Know Jack schitt about basketball I literally don't even know the rules I don't know what when people file people not sure why I don't know what's happening now I know I understand it's so if you want to talk about MMA I'd like to talk to him and be about someone else who knows anime like you were saying like what he does in front of the camera K4 for him to call him and I don't have to like that I still like him as a person that's what we need to make sure that we differentiate between the two things I probably is a really good guy and I actually have met him I met him at the Floyd Mayweather and Conor fight and said hi said hey how's it going like Aunt what are you thinking that was the conversation was real quick will brief maybe 2 minutes but he seemed like a nice person at that time but when I was listening to him talk and calling someone a quitter Kate and you need to make some sort of adjustment whether it's dick punching or something else that you need to figure it out you need to like I understand I get that it's a good idea for all people to have never cover the sport to try to get into it maybe hold off on the videos like that for a while or awhile always been great every time I talk to him in that with them in and watches them side-by-side as well call me if I said with Strikeforce great person but his Forte is basketball and for him whatever his Forte is Stephen A Smith he's got I think he may have to stick with that and I think that I agree they have to bring DC back into work with you along to yes because you look there's no positive in downplaying the career of Donald Cerrone or what he can do as a fighter what that showed to me without phenomenal Connor perfume that's what it showed me and if either you or I was talking about Cricket on TV doing commentary Cricket We would look at a place we look for it would be f***** up and Real Cricket fans would be upset at us right now that's nothing that's just a sport naked in the most literal sense of the word I can physically you're naked emotionally when Fighters lose its it's f****** devastating for Connor to smash Cowboy like that in front of his wife his kid his grandma and then the whole world like that is that since you got to have some respect for that man you know in this sport Demands a different perspective it's it's not the same thing as a ball going into hoop and I'm not the same thing as crossing a line with a football different it's very intense and very personal and it's also very f****** dangerous and to play it off like it's just a game I just I don't agree with it and I just think that we have plenty of f****** people out there that understand the sport there's plenty of them yet but the thing about him is he's really popular and Jamie was when he sends you just got a giant deal or something like that I love two people arguing about shed one person's better at argument and then Stephen A Smith is really good at that stuff but it's not the place for MMA it's just not the play it's not the same thing it's not because because the guys themselves can fight you and I when you see what happened last night what Kansas and Kansas State or Emily started throwing punches it was like it look like a bunch of girls through a window what is these are college kids that can't fight obviously we just saw their life has been around this Kraut and now you're going to say things like that it's very disrespectful it's just so common with sports to talk about a guy who can't show up on Gameday talk about a guy who keeps dropping the ball cock and you s*** on those guys but it's just a different thing with fighting and it's also with fighting but you you you have to know it or no one's going to respect you don't know what you're talkin about and you're talking about in front of millions of people like man that's a bad look for everybody it's a bad look for ESPN it's about look for him it's about look for the sport it's like there's other people that can do this yeah we got a lot of flack for Gus for awhile be over Strikeforce did like cologne up to CVS now the Mayhem brawl does honestly you just said that we does reflect badly not just on ESPN itself at the UFC as well because they're their business together and it kind of looks bad for both like a you guys meeting tomorrow who's behind that microphone because we're representing our town and our town is what makes us the money but what's funny is with Stephen A Smith he's his personality and his brand is based on that kind of s*** talking to this is all good for him it's all good fam like the more people talk s*** about him better it is for him and then he just wrapped it up did the ratings go up until he sees cowboy in the elevator dial back a little bit. Scott Cowboys a f****** he just an amazing person everybody knows what happened what happened is Connor had a spectacular performance Cowboy got caught off guard and you get finished quick that's what happened to all the other stuff is the emotional Devastation of a 40 second KO is we have as a widow as a respectful human being you got to leave all that other stuff alone all that s*** talkin if you want to say it in the gym to one of your homies and you just hanging out and maybe one of them doesn't like cowboy and you know when someone talks trash and that's private and no one hears it that's fine and good but we want to do that publicly you want to broadcast and also do it on ESPN finding him right now he's he's a wonderful person because he likes to do this weather right now sense of expression where is you literally using your body to try to stop another man's body now it is intense as it gets and I think it deserves more respect that's just my opinion that's how I've always treated it that's how I've always when I when I talk about Fighters or my my concentration is always been to elevate my concentrations never been to demean someone unless there's something that they did that's illegal if there's some sort of a sort of blatant foul that should be stopped or something it's really dangerous that they're doing that Beach ass. But let the sport is it's just it's it's a higher level of consequence and risk in air and it needs to be respected that way I feel quite a bit and I like a lot of what you had talked about before when you first got him to call me about talking about how some of the other Comics was like kind of s*** on other young, up-and-coming and you came in it was like a different you try to just ingrained in people like a I want to build you all of you guys up to we on the same set for doing the show we're on the same night that's all just f****** make each other look good I feel like it's specially in fighting with his boxing MMA anything wrong with one we got to be elevated each other to make each other better yeah hey this guy is good this guy is good without talking s*** cuz we like yourself as specifically as well as like even up myself and other guys that have shows and podcast and sore tongue on a different level of platform that can really kind of either make or break some people's careers with all the sport is confidence MMA is a confidence level anytime you do wrestling it's a one-on-one combat sport in 10 wrestling MMA confidence is key if my lower and lower when you want to hear it from f****** people that don't know the business by just right here it's just another thing added on and for other MMA guys to shoot on other MMA guys all that does is tear them down even more and you can it's just another thing added on and four other enemy guys to shoot on other MMA guys all that does is tear them down even more and you can potentially I'm not saying ruin their career but you're you're not helping them get to their goals no levels it's better if everyone shines and we all handle ourselves with class and respect

did you find any root vegetables or any like wow much there's a there's not a lot of that up there there's like inside boiled reindeer lichen yeah I do but man I didn't miss it at all it was so good from the first bite to the last dislikes you butchered the Moose with 11 how long did that take finally at like noon and then I think I was done cutting it up and Hauling it by like 10 at night do you have a sharpening stone so many items around I wanted the wire cutters I wanted the little saw for crafts and stuff figured if my worst problem is it have a small knife to cut up a big game I'll be pretty happy risk I took and ended up not being so that was pretty good though it was a nice for building I built like a 12 foot tall moose meat and stuff there was night for a nice for that so what other objects Barbed hooks that you have 25 Aaron rabbits I put hundreds of snares out and then I built enough for building a fishing pole stuff like that I would have taken a gillnet I ended up making a kiln that out of the Paracord but I think that would have been useful wow that's crazy on your 10 things that puts the pressure on my goodness it does and then what did you do with your time after that moose like preserving it smoking it trying to store it where it would be safe cuz everywhere you put it something's getting me hanging in trees in the birds are packing in everybody's going for it do you got the Wolverine out of the picture was there any other on the internet a good Wolverine sound but but sure enough he started coming around but we're only we have regulations right so you can't kill you only kill one Wolverines defense mode trying to set up like I'd like to set up all these cans you only kill one Wolverines defense mode trying to set up like I'd like to set up all these cans so they don't walk through with the Eno did Clank and then

Wanderlust huh yeah I guess so I mean yeah I guess so it was just a cool experience and once you get that taste of kind of Freedom like little bit hard to go back to a 9 to 5 I guess I can only imagine I can only imagine that feeling when you're 19 years old and then you know you I was a young guy trying to figure out how to live a meaningful life or whatever you know what I'm going to do in my life and aspiration straighten Me Right Out means a lot of things a lot of people but for me it was always like is interesting cuz it was summed up in like in the Bible like God is defined as love Dan at the time I heard of a guy it was over in Russia building orphanages and needed help and so felt really strongly that hey that was the right thing to do and it turns out she had another son who was going to go over there and I met him and he told me about so I basically felt it was the right thing to do and bought a ticket for a year you noticed a full Year's go to Russia and and I headed over there now it's kind of how the next chapter I guess started in life this guy that I was building the orphanages in american guy but I went over there and I didn't want to live in the Americans I want to learn Russian so he sent me to a neighboring Village or with these two families both of them were like ex-cons and prison so they took me in like one of their own and and I spent the better part of that year with those guys learning the language and how much did you know before you got there I mean it was pretty cool you know so you could write things to people in that we could read it as well as I learned of course I could pronounce it just taught me all the prison slang and stuff wow so that's a crazy thing to do to just go move there with no rushing off an English to Russian but I found the best way if you ever go to a different country town do anything just have a notepad with you and throughout you'll start till I get familiar with words as you live in there and then at the end of the day I think I'd write those words down as I recognized them at the end of the day I would look up the definition and just five to 10 words a day just slowly learn and and by the end of the year I was pretty Dino starting to get to where I can be comfortable there's no form in the sentence like it you could say you liar love I you know you can throw the words in any in any order but the word actually changes based on its role in the sentence so when you're learning the language you just get all these words dumped on you and you have to like try to sort through you know how it's formed how would you say I love you in Russian a reason why it said in different ways I think you could emphasize him that make different if it is a flexible language in that yeah you could switch it up to emphasize certain aspects and they're taking care of them do they Shield the other Caribou from seeing one of them gets slaughtered I don't seem to be too worried about it like it's a very like mutually symbiotic relationship in the reindeer they're always getting attacked by wolves and tore up and stuff and they always come into the people for protection in those times not only from wolves but even from like mosquitoes and gnats in a little bit Big Smoke where's the other reindeer know people are their friends and I guess sort of are okay with an occasional and wild reindeer in like with saddles on and shift people riding them has been there one of the first animals to be domesticated actually go yeah then when they get to a place and they decide to then they pull out the sticks there you have it in the summer you're moving every 3 days or so just following the reindeer herd through the forest you know in the winter they said everything's a little slow or you'll be in a place for a month or so but just the Nomad nomad a little wood stove in the in the in the teepee in it nomadic is very nomadic and it's so fascinating to live like that and compare it to the modern world like cuz not too many people get the opportunity anymore and it says you're so wired for it it's weird where is like a normal everyday life here in town and stuff when you get that excited you know you don't have any schedule so everyday you wake up it's like well or do I need to do today and you can kind of you're just free to choose you know you can go try hunting and go collect berries you go find a reindeer and a number of options all available to you and they're all directly related to your life so you don't have any you know there's no money being turn around out there as it's kind of I'm hungry let's go fishing let's go to that spot cuz it's cool is there right in half and my other needed recently had a knee surgery so I was just laid up literally like 3 days I was just laying in a teepee couldn't move I'd to roll over to poop in a bag it was brutal and it actually healed and I could have swore it would get infected but they're just packed it with pine sap and listed as being weak so my surgery knee hurts more than that mean the middle of the river and set it and leave it in there to Stratton there's a setting it right now and then do that thing that they do on the ice when they do that when it's frozen in the hole and slide then like push the stick under the ice and John the one and you have a string tied to it so you push it and keep trying that till you get it to slide under the ice to the other hole and when you do you pull the stick out of that hole and tie your net on the end of the other one and you can pull a string through string or something yeah it works good I did it on that alone show it was fun the native that I actually first met that I was telling you about that you're a guy he isn't a nomad in selfies a fur trapper so he does all that real similar to that Werner Herzog documentary and actually where they film that isn't that far from where I was in Siberia so hit one went for a trapping with him one year you know it's kind of showed me the ropes on and I told showed me a topographical map threw some noodles and eat your mind and then he just dropped me off instead of see you in a month and a half or whatever just was out there it is stupid little people and when they talk about like no depression other all happy there wasn't anything they love what they do they enjoy what they do but even though that's like everybody's goal but I would probably choose that way of life but you know then you find yourself here in America and you're stuck on your phone and that it's it's interesting to experience both but it's kind of hard to where you are in some way you know here. speaking of which you read those like Quanah Parker and stuff movies books and stuff me to and having lived with those natives like there's so much good there you see like they really are happy to Giant difference between the people who live in the village in the people who live in the forest and the people who live in the forest you would genuinely call like happy people like this is their knowledgeable they're being productive they're doing all this stuff The Village it's just like everybody's drunk nobody's doing everything it's like just a total wreck especially Villages that don't have any reindeer herding connected to him cuz they kind of don't have their cultural context to remain connected to so the least in The Villages that have reindeer hurting the kids can go out in the summer and live with the reindeer herders and kind of experience that and it gives them a source of Pride it gives them like the experience of living in the forest becoming like kind of really in touch with nature and all that and whereas in the village it's just kind of a dark hole everybody drinks in that is native Villages it's like the statistic is that one out of three people die of suicide homicide or accident so it and you feel it those people live in a real shity way they're connected to any other Villages you have to only get there by helicopter you fly in and it's reindeer herds and I don't know I think a lot of people live off of like Grandma's pension what you know and rushes Frank a hundred bucks or something you know Administration is this not a lot going on but a lot of people are sustenance like Hunters Fishers and Trappers that live in the village but yeah it's it's it's so weird cuz the first time I went there get out of here just go into the woods they sober up and it's just a night and day it's so weird and their two little kids well the first time I was there I got back all right at the family and I lived with him in their teepee and all this and that and then I went back to America throwing up right after I left a tree fell on their daughter out in the woods and killed her and then they after that got you started drinking a bunch quit the nomadic way of life started Living in the village I went back over there the girl the guy got stabbed and some drunken brawl or whatever and was in the in the hospital slowly recovered he had this big old gas for the piece of glass someone would cut him open with it slowly recovered and then went back to his village the drinking continued sure enough they killed him they took his body to back to the morgue which the the freezer is broken right in the middle of the summer those bodies there was a murder so they had to wait for the police to come and investigate but it's way out in the middle nowhere so took like a week and it's like a week later it was just brutal go over there had to go pick up this guy who's your buddy and his wife is helping me like dress this body cuz they're basically like pick him up in like skin slips off and all that stuff and then take care of her and buried it very dumb it was pretty rough and then a year later I come back she'd gotten remarried you know kind of starting your life again turns out he hangs himself not long afterwards so again it's this one husbands and her daughter just her and her son I just found out a little while ago she got too drunk passed out in the snow and died so now it's just the one son left from this whole family and you like hear those stories often up there it's like really rough that's balanced with what is could be so beautiful it's like such a juxtaposition cuz you're out in this life for you I like people are happy you know ultimate freedom and they're doing great but when they put the village in the alcohol just this whole other thing to him and it's like these people who are so beautiful so nice so friend but you just see him suffering so much from this take out to the woods and will drink for a few days until it's all gone and then it's also there. of their culture and I are like you know cuz even the evenki is cools our way of life is you know they had a 70 years of Communism where they came in and they collected all the best reindeer herders and said that they were like kulaks or what do you know like the Bourgeois because I have too many reindeer sent them all to prison and it's like well there might be enough cause just from that kind of thing to explain some of the alcoholism but I imagine it's combination of both you know out there Quanah Parker's mother she was kidnapped by the Comanche when she was nine and then recaptured by the Texas Rangers I think was a Texas Ranger with a child and she was begging to go back to the Comanches she did not want to live and she found a way of living that the settlers had was just pathetic the Comanche lived in a world where everything was unlike the sky was a guy the wind was going to Nature you lived off the land ride the Buffalo herds and then all sudden you're in a village up in a house and you got it exactly the same thing over there it's like going to be good in Russian Society because they live in some remote Village no internet you know like yeah and then but they're also the ones that aren't connected to their way of life are also not going to be great as Inky because they've just lived in this little house and drink in a bunch so head that people get caught in that weird in between place and the way of life the native in a black but I lived with them and it was awesome and it like spoke to me deeply same thing even on you know things like the alone show it's like a man this is what we're built for Forest you know like I have all these vivid dreams that seem really meaningful it's like my memories way better I remember people that have long forgotten just because you go so long without distraction you can really delve into your thoughts and yeah it's a fascinating new thing to experience in once you do you kind of realize you know what's missing listen to you talk to like Elon Musk March of progress moves forward it's like we kind of lose things but we don't actually know what we're losing you know as far as like the natives in like one of the reasons I want to see their preserve their culture culture and their old ways and take it for it is just as kind of a memory receptacle so that as things move forward we can still connect you know with with what we've lost cuz it is a lot is in like one of the reasons I want to see their preserve their culture culture and their old ways and take it for it is just it's kind of a memory receptacle so that as things move forward we can still connect you know with with what we've lost cuz it is a lot

you know and that's why I'm only cooking a few now to is we got to do we we got to be in this together and you got to trust me and I get it I got to be there for you and if you trust me send every decision that I make for you you've got to trust whether it's they don't take this fight I mean with the fight the last night I was like no you're not taking a fight and he's like the first time 11 days right wasn't hardly anybody hit me with all these points coronavirus going on who cares let me get in there I need to fight someone right now all this in his little basic points I looked at him I said all right is a good are you going to do it again you can stick to your go on the next one cuz I might let you off on this one and he said I will never take a short notice fight that's why the second time he was offered he was even more pissed about it delta blues you know I go out of my shield so this isn't be clear for everybody that's the first time was the Lemoore California on the cheap hard round felt great you know I've been sparring so much and so he was like I was like let's do it and I talked him into it and then so we we go hard and then I think it was when do they cancel I think was 10 days before the fight they canceled it and that's when I went out the window and then I went hard I was just terrible choices I would like to eat would you eat I would go to my God he was helping me with my cooking and help me around the house during the days and yeah we went hard I like you notes may not know is like f*** that I like I don't take short short notice fight like this last one was out of it being a late late notice fight and now they want me to mean I feel that that goes out the window that does not now it's not really a late replacement fight it is what it is for me it is in general but you know that the general public would think you know this is Dee got a full camp in this is a real fight no like, doing it let me get this straight so you're not doing it because you fell out of camp start eating again because because so that the 20-day notice was like something very special like that was something that I definitely could have performed and I would have her phone I think that's my April 18th this is not what I do it's not how I do it this way but because you weren't fully prepared there's no way to fully prepare in that amount of time but my mind when I go in there and do I have to give a very very special place yeah so I was just I was my partner for Neil Magny when they find biggest in shape I was in shape a better way better place to be from a conditioning standpoint because he was already in shape for the first two weeks so hard like we are trying to get his body and in shape quick and to do Endeavor we are 4 weeks out that point which is perfect is the fourth week out I was pulled back on and let your body recover cuz your third in your second week are peak week so so weak that we need to really hit it hit it hit Prime and it really push hard and it was perfect fit I might do we take the time off you going up and eat now you're you're ready to go again you you got that little that little fire back in your body cuz you're able to eat whatever you want and I thought it was perfect timing from how I train my athletes from a conditioning stand for and I actually had to talk him into that one I was like this even better like if this is perfect for you for a 5 round pill for your perspective is like he had a chance to recover you know that food take a little break and it's good cuz your body gets to charge back up again and then grind back down and we five are hardly a start to those those last two weeks of peeking cuz our fight week we slow down a little bit I'll take like 3 days at a really light and then push it a little bit and then we three and week 2 or the ones that I'm trying to get him to Pete get hit five rounds we're not doing six rounds we're not doing 7 we're making sure that we can go five minutes hard for every round B Sharp not get lazy and I thought it fit Perfect 2 if you're out of shape 12 weeks if you don't lift weights for a little bit and then you come back and lift weights and you at live for 6 months or 3 months you're going to get real sore so you've got to have that break in process gilded that was not a good fight the May 9th so I had no idea my body would respond as well as it didn't I didn't think I could be ready to 100% without I've always been 12 weeks that's all I've known that's all and that's all I ask for that was my mind so when they called me because I knew they were going to call me today before I like watching in the f****** call me and I don't want to fight May 9th or something like that and I knew it and my manager called me is like midnight let's go out like no what are you talking about the same thing I'm like no it's not the same thing like to me it's not you don't like cuz I don't know what conference is everything I know I can before we know but you wanted everything to be done right side of my life to have old school wrestling mentality you know you you have to see the prize and every single morning you wake up you know the guy the guy they are going to fight you and that wasn't there that wasn't there when I woke up in the morning so I didn't feel like I Was preparing in the proper way to wear something that was at this level and I just need 10 weeks for your body you want for your mind as well that's the that's the most important part to me you know I do I didn't know I can get ready in that amount of time. That's what it comes down to I have no idea because I've never tried it but I wasn't better I have done better between fights since the Cowboys and I've ever done between fights in in the in the in the fact that I was staying in shape running on treadmill my house I was sparring I never I got that call and rage is hard to settle down with someone has raised like someone said something about your mama I'm always like they don't even know your mama after the second round after you get hit with that uppercut will you take something off your punches take about 10% off just hit McLean probably know someone that had but it's f****** with them that they're starting to get tired it's f****** with them if they got hit and then they lose some composure that get emotional and they go out there and they wanted making mistakes you immediately adjusted and you went out there and you would see like a buddy in that second round with Tony hit you with that shot people like well maybe this is a shift in the direction to fight nope that the shift was the opposite way you came out in the third round more Technical and you came out and did exactly what Trevor said we worked long and hard on on that I trust him with you with everything as he said you know we wouldn't be who I coach if I didn't trust him with my life and with water everything I go in there to do so when he said that's you Mike cuz you want to hear it and I don't remember passion between me and him and it's so important for fighters to see that adjustment and how his endurance level down cuz it was like you were having these wild exchanges and you were you were f****** hit and Tony first of all Tony Ferguson is made out of metal ways to go to sleep or not like on understanding coachability is like you have to have your reactions but you also have to have your responses like reactive stuff is like like Jabs positional stuff is reactive like you have to be able to react positions first I love you just because its position before submission you have to react to two positions before anything else so there's reactive stuff but the responses is why you have a co-pilot to help you see what you can't see noticing that or how are you playing defense in using a job to find openings where you're still working but you're thinking and going all every time he does he's dropping it and you're able to see things that's where you have to be responsive and you have to be aware in the moment or a lot of times people can't they just like down despite down on that my boundaries and very similar to way you used to fight was right down their eyes are getting big any athlete understanding I am there to help you with your responses in the gym I'm going to create your reaction time to create your patterns your basic fundamental patterns that's going to help you win positions and slightly wooden round swear you're controlling the fight the other pieces of how am I slowly creating momentum to get finishes it was pretty stunning how well your you adapted and then also how your endurance leveled off like so cuz you you did seem like you were slowing down a little bit at the second round but it was because you were sprinting because you were throwing these full power f****** Haymakers but then when you leveled off in that third round then it's like you had an endless gas tank and that was injured you're in control yourself Raven understand that all you know it was crazy by hits Vic Barbosa and I was so surprised it went to sleep I didn't understand why I think it was position mostly but yeah I was sleep with that should have went to sleep then I'm sorry I do I haven't figured that part Johnson is a very wise and out you lock down did you see it. So you're letting it is again that linear or rotational was causing a concussion and when you don't see you shot those are the ones that cause the most damage if you're able to brace for it and and and bite down the punch it's a lot better so a lot of times when you seen two hooks both people hooking and I don't see it unable to take the shot so if a lot of times it's the shots you don't see coming and that's the the time you but there are people who will punch you in any moment and you're going to go to sleep with the right technique but it is oh my gosh like you have a sharp heavy bone it's so you hate Tell Me What You're Made Of

split-second timing and counter shots with Tony was that pretty spectacular erased going to be here and that's the race that will have if it was there I would take it and Daniel Cormier said that the other day I'm not that Fighter for 1 that I have a opportunity to do something that can be unmatched in the history of our sport to go in there to come off the circumstances to beat to beat only like I did Kobe Habib galbi Connor that's legendary but is it really cuz I know that's not real he doesn't want that I think he would take the fight with my mom or you to me I think you felt like he was smart but now you know because when I get to 540 there's 500 some more people on this roster every single one of them would want to be in my position right now but I also have the ability to bring some kind of politics run the show they ultimately do but there is a small chance of you going to say in your destiny and eliminate politics and that's what I just did politics were going to f****** I wasn't going to get the fight Conor was going to somehow or someway get that fight and now I got the chance to go out there and I did what I did but it's also the way you win like you and also went and you winning the way you did in Florida when there was nothing else going on in the world have no live sports and so you winning the way you did and in doing in such spectacular fashion against the hugely respected guy like Tony Ferguson that makes you undeniable and when you're undeniable weird things happen you know timing is everything Destiny whatever it is you know I don't put anything into any of those things I just do what I can do today but you know timing is everything and it feels like that was part of my destiny to have the opportunity at that time under these circumstances is a magical story line if you mean that would be out that's what I'm here for that I can Inspire the world do do they have anything lined up for Connor now because Connor keeps talking like something's happening Titan 3 months or do whatever he said and the whole thing is is people stop listening when you're not sticking to your word and if you're going to fight fight they really take away Class B just consistent as you are when you fight cuz he's super consistent so he has to go and fight a position of beating Cowboys nice but he's got to kind of get another win 100 something else is going to happen to really sell the public on hundred percent that you can sell a certain percentage of public based on I came in Pickaway Class B consisted he's so big for you ever made that way he's big and strong as f*** guys that drives into the ground with me and he's is incredible wrestler in his mind to Israel's very very powerful so when I was looking at that was like wow that's really happened all the way you know it's not that stuff I saw it happen if I even texted Dan about that one okay call show ultimate goal is to do that to be Connor and then what are you do you have a long time. and I took control of my destiny which is all I asked for was good might be no business-wise could be you know right now to fight Conor because obviously that's a lot of money I think you have more leverage but beating to be by make way more money more money want more money when I be able to invite right now if I buy them to with big paydays and I'm good

cuz you're afraid of coronavirus oh my God he's a personality like that could be as smart as it because of the reaction I don't cry because it's over will you have a stye I mean if you wanted to say okay what kind of style do you think would work against the guy like could be the first of all guy was a fantastic defensive wrestler like you said and then a guy was a superior Striker and do those two things you have you got to stay at the fence openness to drive you to the fence to finish takedown he's not going to take that as an open you go watch all this fights you're going to see maybe 5 a handful if it if that was in the actual center of the kid who starred in the middle but he's going to push to push you to the Cajun music age feel slightly uncomfortable is he stupid because the distance I was keeping you do you have to be in order to shoot a double-leg you have to be at a distance and it would you feel comfortable in wrestling it's always you know I shouldn't unless my head touching your head I should never take a shot cuz I'm too far away so he's going to be the most important thing in the world when it comes to that fight Batman Superman fight with you and the baby both of the same manager would I hear talk about September or they say that with you because I'm at that Park Theater the one that's right across the street from T-Mobile I'm there in July for what doing a comedy show at supposedly going to actually happen they haven't canceled it they haven't canceled it Chesapeake. It's the biggest challenge of khabib's career it's a biggest challenge of your career at 100% siding is having opportunities to be able to step up that's what I'm really excited for I know he's excited for and again no one's got to see his wrestling and I met this guy watching his wrestler what he does was so unique it's a total different style of wrestling then that's hard to train for the sound like Aiden weapon so I feel like we're bringing something unique into this then it's a variable and it's also pull up on his feet told him you fighting you and you stopping him like you take that spot now and also your style in my opinion is better think about Tony Stiles as Tony can fight off of his back is not worried about takedowns needs to Miss Mulatto fight that fight with the mindset of being okay on his back especially the confidence you must have coming out for that five rounds with Tony is out doing I mean I know how bad those kicks hurt if I can touch your calf I'm not I'm never kicking about the Bendy anymore spider the different distance to so much more safe and her so many nerves and ligaments that run through that part that have no protection your thigh of your quad is a big muscles hard to get through your quad to your nerves you can touch sooner if that's why you know what he said Henry's can't you thicken soup but he has to have the fence he doesn't have the fantasy f*** there's no f****** way yeah promise you that has to be in the middle but if you want to take you you need eight weeks is that what you want to get prepared yeah but I'm taking I take 30 days off but they didn't give you a specific don't know anything more details than I do Google Google Map if I can get back right that's the thing right where you going to land a flight if you lose your boat in Mexico Tijuana and then you have a boat to get to San Diego and then would drive you home right yeah that's the thing right where you going to land your weight about inclusive flight if you lose you got that boat no or Mexico you landed Tijuana and then you have a boat to get to San Diego and then would drive you home

he's done for good van 170 I mean I don't know any manager that ever had that many champions in the stable I think Henry a year and a half from now is like it really is me you might look at a guy who won the gold medal in the Olympics and then is winning by stoppages against the world in your hand you have to go to war for yourself yeah no other time will you be able to put the only time he's going to have those cards as when he's actually the champion right now he is the champion if he decides to vacate the title like he has they remove them from the rank and I put it in they don't respect you enough and so events do they have to at what point do you say no right I think he's probably done to when you stop and think about the fact that you retired from wrestling at 21 not even at the peak of his powers right after you win the gold medal and then the fact that came back from that first round stoppage to DJ and then beat them in the rematch what was it like craters later fight and Annette DJ fight will do crazy overcoming that he has nothing left to accomplish what I was incredible send it like that like it or just came back later they do things outside the box be remembered I didn't use it that was done it I would say two things outside the box be remembered I think he'll fight again

I don't even know where to begin so when when did you first become part of the called so I got sent away to this Cole it was like a cold boarding school I was 14 I just turned 14 in 1990s kids to get some help and then yeah they had no idea was a call wow what was it it was called Seadoo bedu and they call it that because you could see yourself how you want to be and then you do something about it something called sinen on which you think is more well-known but it's not 1993 I was I was living in Tarzan a girl getting into fights at school and I was punching holes in my wall and Angry Kid and so it was sort of an outlet I guess and then they kept sending me up to the Northridge cycle so I got sent away up to Northridge and in the youth psych ward and then I think my parents probably would or they said if you do this one more time you know anything else we're going to have to send you away somewhere with you no more serious probably well and so I did it again and then we took a tour up to they said they were we were just going to go up to take a tour of the school that I could be sent away to that was it they said if you do it one more time we're going up and we're going to tour the school and if you do this one more time then we're going to bring you back here and drop you off you're going to stay there and so we went up to the San Bernardino Mountains and got it got out of the car at toward the campus is a beautiful campus it was like this giant cabin up near Lake Arrowhead and it used to be owned by the Houston so you know all of Walter and Angelica and John Huston and and they were telling me you know just about the school and stuff and all the rules are a lot of rules they called him agreements and then my parents I came back and went and talked to my parents told me that I was staying there and I just said well f*** you and then I left and and they strip-searched me and then and that was it then I went into what they call a wrap hand wraps are intense so what they did rap was a three-hour-long kind of like a group therapy session but everyone is just sort of oh my God it was so bizarre so I'd only been at the school to two hours I just been stripped first and I've been put into one of these three-hour wraps and the the girl next to me was like rocking back and forth on the chair sorta like sobbing quietly and then the kid next to me got up walked across the room and switch seats with someone cuz you weren't allowed to talk to someone next to you had to be across the room and that kids started screaming at the kid and right next to me over here and then this one just started screaming at the floor unlike started like screaming floor like I hate you Mom I hate you Dad and then someone started putting all their like this Kleenex all these tissues too and I'm like why are they putting all these f****** tissues here and then you just see all the snot and spit in like mucus empty out of this this girl's body cuz she's just screaming and like blood vessels are popping in and she's crying and screaming and it was most disgusting thing you've ever seen and I was like oh my God I'm going to be here for two 1/2 years and this is how this is going to happen three times a week there's a lot of sleep deprivation they had your parents think it was they thought they were told by the counselors at the psych ward that it was like a place for troubled kids when you didn't know what else to do with them it was like maybe they were fooled I think they were probably fooled I don't think I don't think anybody really internet right by this is all. you know it was a really weird mix of of students it was like I think Paris Hilton went there at one point and then there was like just a lot of kids there on court orders and there was a weird mix of people wow these 24-hour with a called prophets and they were all named after a different chapter of the book called The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran you go through the program with a peer group so everybody that I was enrolled at the same is you in the same like two months you go through these almost like these Rites of passages called prophets and there were these 24-hour long workshops and they're all based around each chapter of this book called The Prophet and the first one was called the truth and it was like the truth will set you free so you basically tell everything you've ever done that you felt bad about and it's like confessional most and what was set all the staff members were there a lot of stair were like two or three staff members who are the counselors at the school they had no real credentials they weren't like therapist but they acted as therapist but they all have f***** up lies to and so and some of them and so some of them like there were people that really got off on the power like any cult leaders do and then there were some that were former students there that were sent away for being bad kids do their worst confessing to her one guy said he claimed that he said homeless guy on fire another one would strangle cats and they're like these are the f****** people that are asleep Vanessa Scientology element to write and then also Catholicism you have to confess right this said there's a thing to Scientology does where they they go over all sorts of aspects of your life and they they like say that yeah you know well. The different different organization and then the main dudes banging their buddies wife hey 4 days Solo or they give you like a bag of Trail Mix and some water and a whistle and they said I will come back and 4 days but it's a fourteen-year-old it's like what the fuc I don't know I just yeah yeah you were alone they give you an area about half the size of this room the studio and they say alright we'll come get you in 4 days Sears for granola bars a bag of Trail Mix and a bag of water and a whistle in case you get bit by a rattlesnake or some s*** and then a lot of beating off 14 years old I think I spent most of my days and I came up with a cult that would be one of the rules that sounds like a fourteen-year-old like I'll never forget to do when we came out they told us Kurt Cobain it just killed himself it was Lowe's 94 but I remember if you get in trouble they put you on something called a full-time and that was never fun because it was like it was the amount of time so remember it was either you ran away or you had sex with another doing or I know not me between snotty scream therapy on a full-time like you wake up and you have to like try and dig out a stump that's been there since the seventies no one is ever going to f****** take it out I used it for photons but you're not allowed to laugh or sing or no human contact you can't talk to anybody for 3 weeks and everyone is telling each other their lives stories but it look like you remember Johnstown when like the 909 people are just drink the Kool-Aid and was just body on top of body cuddling with each other oh my goodness like all the staff members are f****** rubbing hair of like the girls you like it seems highly inappropriate would like girls 13 year old girls had in their lap yeah dude was f****** it was trippy but my buddy are buddy Jeff Garlin put me in touch with this fantastic writer writes a lot of episodes of Better Call Saul and we're almost done with our pilot we're going to pitch it in about a month I feel like that's what it's going to be fascinating to see how they play that narrative at like whether they will show that kind of s*** like a third child girl on a guy's lap like that seems like you can't do that people be like what you sick f*** why did you do that but you're not doing that that's true yeah you're you're relaying some crazy s*** that you actually experience and how many years are there for almost three yeah some of the exercises were crazy they did this one called Lifeboat where they choose to students I was one of the students that shows and you're on a chair and you can only save two people and all your best friends and s*** are stopping and they're like and you have to look each person in the eye and tell him why they they die and then they and then everyone had to write their own eulogy f****** weird a girl slit her own throat she jumped off a cliff when they get into it in the first place and fire I know that for sure that's why he did it he got put through this b******* he was going to inflict it on somebody else about 7 or 8 years after you run away but then you get caught or you water you come back to the school once you find out your parents are going to take you out but a lot of kids never came back and we just got so that was just the fact of the kids we don't know what the happened to him they would always tell us that the parents pulled them out of the school that some of the kids that ran away and never came back but it was on the side of this giant like almost like a cliff this backside of a mountain and some kids would walk down into town through the road and some kids they said would run away and go down the back side of the mountain and they said some kids died going down the backside some kids got kidnapped but close they found out that there was actually a serial killer that was working at the school he was like like the night janitor kind of guy and confessed to murdering like a handful of kids that we thought ran away and he got caught for something else and then confessed to all these murders he had committed over the last decade and in four of them were kids while he was working up at the campus holy crazy Bonkers Park pretty wild so it took you a few years was in a relationship that you were in where a girl was explaining to you lose while I was talking to a former students starting to opening my eyes and I was like Pac-Man and then when Facebook it was even longer than that because I think then went Facebook came out then it was like they're all these groups and everyone's like yeah we were in a cold once you got out and you realize you were out and you talked all the other people that were out to and you all realize that you were out how did it affect the what did you have to like remap those years in your head did you have to kind of think about what life is really like it was too it was interesting cuz I got out when I was team so I had to go out as soon as I got out I have two more years of high school so I got thrown down the street at Taft went to Taft High School Woodland Hills and then did a couple more years there but it was it was tough to get re-acclimated and then yeah I didn't know I had to retrain my brain or like I felt like I knew it was almost like I knew what they were trying to do I almost felt like I was being brainwashed and we were taught to self police each other in and I may have had otherwise would put you on full-time and you have to dig out a stump lucky ones I was like you know what I did it I took I took the positives I was like you know it wasn't all bad I learned some tools and if I didn't go through that I wouldn't be the person I am today and I'm not the one you know I'm not the worst f****** guy in the world so I made it out I survived f*** it right I'm not going to do a lot of people that wouldn't let go they were just hold on until this very day they hold on so tight and to this bitterness and this anger and they they can't sleep at night and play think about is what they went through they lost three years of their life I do hate that I do bummed out that I missed out those three years of Junior High yeah that's true that's true I could go back and do it all over again is there was there was a camaraderie there was it was like there was something about it I didn't have I had all that other b******* to worry about but I didn't have to worry about a roof over my head job you know all the other b******* that you have to worry about it. it was like there was something about it I didn't have to I had all that other b******* to worry about but I didn't have to worry about a roof over my head job you know all the other b******* that you have to worry about as adults

hours of the first one I ever saw as a good was The Shining and that's still there still something terrifying moment because unlike it different ways they became like a collaboration between cubic cuz it was clearly his original idea but he wanted I believe Stephen King wanted that character to go crazy he didn't want to have this f****** image like right front from the beginning and then became insane and then you know well I know what it's like Jack that movie was so good it was top top 10 all-time favorite 1980s I think cuz it is so 1980 people you've got understand what we're talking about a whole different world there's no there's no special effects if there are there they're not very good they're all like Empire Strikes Back I'm really not much else though but there is a lot of clunky so they did this movie with just just that mean just all of the all of the different crazy moments like that bathroom moment with the ants coming through the door he was so many of those moments Master at creating suspense and in using the sets in the color contrast like just the color patterns are unsettling and the 30 use those twins weren't exactly they weren't twins they were just little differences that makes it unsettling there's so many different ways you know he's to do complex mathematics for fun that's how far the number on the doors exact same amount of thousands of miles 237 and it's 237 thousand miles away but not constant think it moves a little bit so I think it goes as far as 265 thousand feet out if I'm rather than 65,000 miles out and it goes to 237 I think it very that goes like this do you have like an elliptical orbit around the Earth a little bit that made that up is that true that sounds like a Native American Native American music playing in the opening credits little kid did have an Apollo 11 sweater I just remember in the back room in the stockroom there was like a can of a product with a giant it was like geronimo's had on the on there that I'm sure they operate you know what he's the guy that the the conspiracy theorists when they get the most crazy when they when they really want to dive into who did it they think it was all kuberg that shubrick literally filmed the fake moon landing to the American TV satellite internet body killing him because he made yeah mouth Kona that's what it was

call the PC bulshit in the social justice warrior s*** is going to be tempered after we know because the real danger like a real threat in the real fear temperate and now that's gone away the real fear is going to give way to a new level of anger because of this level of Despair people going to be experiencing financially over the next few months so this is going to be a heightened it's almost going to be up there was a slingshot effect West County and I got to get more country and more self-righteous more more self-righteous more people chastising criticizing people and on Twitter you really see it because people are literally forced to be at home so if you're forced to be at home if you don't have the discipline to stay off Twitter and you happen to comment something in someone comments on your comment and then you start talking s*** to each other that's your day and they said something pretty good God damn it back so you start Google and statistics and this is what a lot of people are doing it's making people sicker and sicker I have almost completely avoided Twitter other than check my DMs occasionally and occasionally I check what other people have posted that I'm friends with her that I follow a check little bit but I'm not give it I might give it five minutes a day I deleted my Twitter icon about a year ago I and I just reinstalled it may be about a week or two ago and I'm already starting to see like what am I doing why am I even looking it's just getting me pissed off it's just too many people are angry yeah just too many about nonsense right when you post it it's important but when you're dealing with whatever the f*** it is a hundred million people that are on Twitter or more probably more that are opposing on a regular basis and then most of what they want to say is angry most of what they want to say is negative most of his complaining lipoic 60% complaining so when you tune into that like you're getting all the problems of all these people it's just too many people you're supposed to deal with the problems the people that are around you so there's like 10 people around you and Tommy's got a problem what's wrong with Tommy let's go talk to Tommy it's not supposed to be 10 million people right and then there's hundreds thousands of Tommy just flooding your f****** your feed with b******* Nantes my f****** girls lying about this and they say we can't vote in November f*** that I say we Sue and low all this craziness and it's like you you just deal with the worst aspects of every Wednesday or everyone's thoughts or everyone's opinion you just dealing with all this negativity and so rare that it is really a very much appreciate it when you do find it like a really well structured conversation or does about something where people don't get shity at all like wow that's beautiful that's Pleasant to see what they want to Doc's people cuz you know that you know they don't like this politician that they support or they don't like they want you to not have to wear a mask if you want to talk to you like this there's so many people are so f****** angry and weird online and then you add this pandemic to it and you just got this boiling pot of shity thinking and anger and meanness just meme yeah there's a lot of that is not the best part of your day when you rather be friends with people like I know you can you can have disagreements and not be shity it's possible and that's what I loved about the comedy store has people that you know didn't disagree but they f****** you know they they're still. Comradery and they're there at the end of the day they're in the same felt like they love each other and yeah it was anything that's odd but it's pretty it's pretty rare I think there's probably more than we know that they're just just not onstage there their they're avoiding it 99% which makes me think that can't be real it makes me think that it's probably a lot of his people shaping their opinions so that they're more accepted and loved by the community that they've chosen try to excel

call Trump this is actually Donald Trump Snapchat and he put this this is these these guys are here this and it comes to this f****** music this so many knockouts. use the internet man and this is Donald Trump Jr memes and getting these short attention span motherfukers to hold on to a narrative is possible Russia Russia Russia whatever it is ask people to upset you don't even know what happened that's 90% of people out there man we live in and now it's going to be weird because everybody's going to be so stressed out because the economies in the s*** the economy going like they're super-rich don't give a f*** about people dying they can stay in their Mansions actual danger of the virus but then there's other people that are like hey I don't lose my business why don't you restart the economy so I can take a chance I'd rather take a f****** chance of losing everything vitamins like let me do what I have to do and let's let's quarantine the people that are in danger what's quarantine old people let's keep them away until it goes away do that I don't know when reason left the world different aspects of the world anywhere it's just not at its doesn't make sense doesn't work right cuz everything the Washington examiner what one of those is a weird newspaper and it was like it's it's one of those ones like there's more people dead from suicide in Northern California then the war from coronavirus death California then the war from a coronavirus test well if it wasn't for Korean baseball I would be f****** on my f****** head off

I would really like cross-promotion fights you know I really would Bellator just did it was Rising now you know and what's your what's your take on that I think it's good for everybody like I said I'm obsessed with Douglas Lima fighting at a hundred seventy pounds I'm still fight in the UFC is so f****** town status I'm comfortable with some of these matchups I don't want to see I really am interested in seeing a rematch volkanovski and I think Max Holloway with just a few adjustments checking those leg kicks and maybe a little bit more movement he he know I think you can win that fight but I think volkanovski with a few adjustments might be able to put on even better performance and now that he's beating the goat featherweight I mean who knows I mean a lot of guys you don't really see what they're capable of until they win the title and then you see the conference take over I mean I think cross-promotion with all the Champions would be fantastic I mean but I'm a terrible business person play August promote everybody I'd be like f*** yeah belt or let's be friends f****** a blow you guys up to I wouldn't I don't think the way the UFC does the sort of an isolation is prospective like when Satan was a champion they would get bummed out that I kept mentioning him when it was over in Pride and I was like you got to take into consideration Fedor Emelianenko leave me I might be the best boxing heavyweight a lot and there was a lot of guys over there they were f****** phenomenal Fighters and we absorbed a few of them and it was some problems with that you know that city was problems with the fact that the contract they got from Pride a lot of them weren't real so you know there's a thought we had paid or we didn't leave without a lot of guys headed just put him under new contract mark on it was a good example he wrote out his contract and then there was a problem with supplements in a lot of those guys were on the Mexican juice because it wasn't in the contract I agree with cross-promotion and want to see that I hundred percent want to see that but I also think that's who you got to look out for all promotions right across from let's not have Champion versus Champion let's have your number two Guy versus this number three. Let's make the best fight UFC cuz I don't know if it would I think it would definitely help Bellator but I don't know you already did already spent Millions probably close to over billion dollars and trying to make sure they was marketed properly back then what Scott came in like let's not try to Rebrand this and Scott's Scotts brilliant when it comes to doing this thing these things but you know it's how he got rid of the he made it very simple the logo is simple everything is simple now and it's easier to say oh that's our logo right there are horses this big word that says Bellator fighter or whatever was gone look at all these things it takes time to get branded remember King of the cage when they used to have the king of the cage at Giant bodybuilder dude yes it was like the mascot yet is a really good friend of mine actually sold him my old house he lives in my old house he's a real good friend of mine and I never met him I don't think but Bud and Terry were Partners in the adventure and they used to have this guy who was this enormous f****** bald bodybuilder dude who was the King of the cage now and he was like a mascot strange was like but he's not the fighter no weird mascot fighting at UFC had the dude who was the bald muscular guy in the logo remember that you didn't know Lego part of the UFC logo with some ball do I do remember that I do remember that it look like boss like when boss won the title cuz I just asked him for you the name itself has like a do we want to Rebrand this know you don't want to waste all the money you did trying to Rebrand a new organization that's just too hard and you know what the end of the day it's you know the exact talk and then let's just try and make some changes make it simple to make everyone fall in love with this all over again but you know for a different reason for our fights every Friday different weight class and I never paid attention cuz it was just too hectic to try and keep up now you have fight scheduled you know every you know once a month you know what the what the tournament Fighters so like this weekend we have a cyborg find Julia but for the title which are you find nominal area under looked fight the monster he's an animal and I mean people are overlooking her and she don't know Jack faucet or extremely early in her career she's been on a tear ever since then and she's been doing phenomenal again talk with John Oates her confidence needs to be at a different level cyborg doesn't throw straight As punches in the world you know she throws a lot of hook so if Julia compression of the fence get inside the clinch maker that dirty getting that dirty boxing get rid of those loopy punches and be inside that pocket right there that I think she's got a good chance we'll have to cyborg up Flatline by Amanda Nunes the whole game just changed everything changed when you realized I forgot badass she has I look at it though to that cyborg had been undefeated for so long hadn't lost in so long that she just like I'm just going to walk to this chick and it just cost her I think her confidence was that none of these girls can hurt me I could beat her you know and when she got hit I'm going to hit you back she was thinking she was going to impose her will like she did against everyone out okay and she's going to try to do the same thing to Julia but weather Chula is going to rise to the occasion or she going to step back and let's I work dictate the paste like a lot of other girls have run I think with Amanda when she puts them in the back I'm a no-hitter and sour got rocked in a manifest Ford and she thought she going to hit her back and it became its exchange it was a very sloppy fight on from both side but a man has big dogs and was able to land the clean good punches and time and then what she did very well in that fight with his she made sure that she didn't blow her way voiceless punches she pick and she was picking and choosing her shots so she was making sure that they were Landing versus just throwing you know aimlessly and not land you see that a lot of times people get rocked and the guy just comes a nice Mother's and stuff so much that nothing lands in the guy recovers and your back to fighting but I knew that Amanda Nunez was f****** dangerous dangerous fighter was first of all the first round went well if you don't like this a lot of fights where you saw it you know you started it to see with cat zingano the first time she almost had cat zingano out but then she faded and then she could she got put away later in the fight was just shows how tough Cat zingano Vs cat zingano so fucken Savage she's very happy to see her over there but when Amanda Nunes beat the f*** out of Miesha Tate and then strangled her I was like oh goddamn stopper and beat her down before she stopped her you know you just realize she was on another level at that point time but still with the cyborg fight had questions like is she going to look what you did to Holly Holm cyborg just bully Holly yep she's just on top of her being her down in The Hollies a phenomenal strike yes and I was like man isn't but the difference is Amanda is her hands Holly you know has good power to hands excellent timing good counters but Amanda has like legit one shot knockout power Gris I just would have liked to have seen them do a second fight because I think I think that's our would have fought a smarter yes fight and I would have been a different option we made it different to numidia just guess you were maybe a Jostens not just made the adjustment Germaine de randamie with Jermaine far and Amanda at the fight goes on she not the same fighter why do you think that she decided to move over to Bellator why do you think she didn't pursue the rematch you know the answer to that come on Joe certain ways people talking behind her back saying no calling her you know a man whatever it was those are there's not just that but then also to a little bit of them I think some of the mistreatment in that in that whole thing as well she's Coker Strikeforce and they've always got along he's always he's always answer and get her number he's the one that first put women's MMA on the on the on the big stage know her and Gina Carano we're the ones that women's MMA that next level of what it what if there was something that happened between them were DLC was like we're getting out of the cyborg business I'm trying to remember what it was I don't remember what happened but there was some sort of a dispute that they had was it before it was before the amount of no no no no no no they put out a video cyborgs boyfriend put out a video where she put words in Dana White's mouth and they were fake yeah they they miss translator on purpose willfully and then she had apologized for it and in the osseous I get the f*** out of you can't do that and that's when they released that wasn't her boyfriend very first question lost yeah but when ever since then it's been 15 years had one loss after a man when she lost him that she's done but she wants to fight jumps on board and the fighter jump on board and it becomes an issue that's why I feel like we're not seen cross-promotion think it's a business Bellator Bellator would get bigger along the way but I think Julia bought hangs with any 145 in the UFC and I would like to see her fight in the UFC I would like to see cross-promotion with her as well I feel like it's just one of those things where it's it hampers that the the the fans cuz the app they're just not going to face each other let me let me go to this is we already saw cross-promotion when UFC was basically asking or trying to force the issue with Chuck Liddell fighting and truck over there and then probably didn't send anybody over here yes I had to I had to fight caligiuri it was supposed to be they sent Aoki over when it was dream and they send Aoki over and Scott was supposed to send Gilbert over afterwards to fight each other to Aoki fought Gill in Strikeforce and then after gilby. He was supposed to go over there and fight him in a ring that didn't happen so I got to call in like 12 days notice and Scott's like you need to do this for me and I was like I'm literally sitting Courtside of the word game eating chips and drinking a beer when I get back to you call him at night at midnight and he's like I'm like yeah I'm good I can go so that's how I took the final College Ariana Grande's notice and just so look when people want to talk about how the Japanese do business and what happened with UFC I can understand I can understand what they're hesitant to do cross promotion because I actually accepted that fight with 10 days notice I was supposed to fight Aoki but when I got there they change it to caligiuri there they changed its caligiuri wow that's a big difference difference but what they do is what they do is want the wrestler was a Jiu-Jitsu guy sure but the other thing too is what they do is they said hey here's another amount of money here's the check for this if you switching you take this guy

you're getting out of how did the Comanches in particular because when when these Dodge and Catwoman these various people saw Comanches in Texas and 1830s they just flat couldn't believe what they were looking at they they couldn't believe their buildings with horses breaking them I've never seen anything like it before I never seen anything like it no more kissing you can find one of those explorers Spanish saddle or anyway but yeah they had a particularly to the shooting there it is right there but song leather Loop that would allow them because otherwise think they would need to be supported as high as they came down underneath that they were fairly small people they weren't they were fairly small few so they're like they would, I climb off the satellite hang on the side to side full Gallop full Gallop shooting under the neck accurately it would kill a man 30 yards underneath there I don't know the answer to that I don't know that anyone does what the white men start just ask Woodleaf Lord them with abilities with arrows and they set up a dime and a tree or a coin and they go can I hear you stand here and I close your eyes and you can't even see them from the other side of the horse and again this was something that you know trick riders after you know when the wild west shows and Beyond would do these sources things but I'm sorry for saying so when they were standing still why was so with the commission like shoot that diamond by their rules and whatever and again if you see the Lars Anderson video there was no such thing Closing one eye there was no such thing almost as standing still and shooting it was constant movement it was a shooting from movement wherever they were going so then what stationary anyway so you all that that dance you I have no idea how they think I could at that right that's a real shame that they don't have a written history that mean that's one of many many things that's a real shame that they don't have a written history cuz it's and I would have loved to have seen someone be able to do that I mean God what how incredible would it be to see what would it look like to see them that mean we're just we just missed the most picture by 67 years ago think they were doing it for hundreds hundreds and hundreds years is almost like she has to magical to capture sorry it's gone have gone right before you'd invent a camera no means least we have some photos and still photos we do and we have now I put in pretty big chunks of text into my book of people of the time who saw them into described it that's all you can do is just what they saw and how astounded they were larz Anderson guy oh yeah it is pretty amazing people said they could do yes I have become less that's a trick I mean he's clearly doing what he saying he's doing there's no if ands or buts about it and are they tricks in terms of like is it something that like maybe wouldn't be as effective but it's really cool to see yeah right or but so what so what he still write showing you yeah he's showing you that you can do things me what is he throws a ball and then shoots legally shoot it with his the head with his also the rate of discharge which was one of the things I had trouble believing he when you see him shoot it's just whenever he had a second throws and catches it and he can shoot an arrow like right after he catches it throw something in the air and then shoots two shots to he throws it in the air and then by the time it hits the ground he hits it twice his incredible and he's really accurate with this thing he also one of his cases that you know that he is always moving its continuous movement he never he doesn't close one eye he doesn't stand still he's moving all the time yeah buddy said was a trademark of the great the magyars in the great you know Archer cultures jumps in the air gets off in Arrow before he hits the ground mean amazing and he's even catching arrows and then shooting them back like anybody that says that what he's doing his nonsense is a fool like you are not sure how this is really impressive stop for me I don't shoot traditional archery I shoot a compound bow with a site and I can line it up to the exact yard and stuff but but I know enough to know that what this guy's doing is pretty special so he's showing arrows in the quiver versus arrows in his hand how you can just grab them and pull them right so his his cases that we all think that it is a quiver right nobody nobody good ever use the quiver you can transport them and equipment in battle you were holding him in a bunch of the clustered bunch in your hand that's just the way we're seeing these people in these ancient depictions the actual drawings from in a hundreds of years ago of the way he did it holding the arrows in his draw hand and so he can do it very quickly really interesting it is it really in the end of this is probably mean because of this one gentleman is probably the only way we're really going to know that this was possible cuz no one else is doing like this guy he's doing drive-bys on a back of a bike and he hits me back that up again so you could see that cuz that isn't saying much are you doing this right there I mean three times he hits in in a second he hit three Targets on a bike as he's riding by which would emulate a horse other than difference between the elevation change you know that you go up and down on a horse but that was the other thing about like these are the stories of the Mongols he had developed inability to shoot as the horses in the air because it wouldn't like that The Stomping I like date hubs would during that par a Sol as a horse was up that's when they would release so we have the least amount of impact on there or their accuracy pretty incredible stuff but it's one of the things that made Comanche Comanches the Mastery of the horse plus that would now combined with this ability to shoot from from a moving horse that was was known amongst Native Americans what was extraordinary amongst other tribes I don't know that for a fact but I do know the reaction of people who saw them who is seen plenty of other Indians nobody never seen anything like it at the time now what's her a group of Northern Plains Indians that could do I don't know but the reaction was almost Universal by people who have seen a lot of Indian tribes and you know they never seen it before who has seen plenty of other Indians nobody never seen anything like it at the time now what's her a group of Northern Plains Indians that could do I don't know but the reaction was almost Universal by people who have seen a lot of Indian tribes and you know they never seen it before

I've been talking to Norm Macdonald a lot lately we're going to I think we're going to start the podcast up again so thank God for that and but you got kidnap a bunch of people and give him an acid I think it's been awhile now we just need to put all the the nuts and bolts into place and then get it get a studio get a camera and inches do it but you're going to the first guess I'm in we're shooting the first one in the fall so I'll let you know about Norm me and him on a plane and randomly this is crazy but true randomly twice I sat next to him on planes just random but one time we're flying back and he's like yeah I used to smoke and I had to give it up before you sometimes I miss it but glad I quit telling me all these months you stop smoking this soon as he went he walks right into the f****** store buys a carton of cigarettes and he's opening before he gets out the door and I and the flight from from I forgot where we were two times both times you just like the best flights like just like having an audience of one next one the greatest Comics ever need to talk s*** yeah he's probably you know he's he's probably like in my top three favorite stand-up comics of all time and he's been so good to me and I love them both and they're both equally hilarious in different ways but Norm I'll never forget how quick he was he was hosting that podcast we had Larry King on one time and Larry was like no I'm going to give you a show cuz I'm always listening in order to interrupt you there so I can't wait till I can't wait to come back to this podcast no filter there's never a place for it Charles Manson Manson Charles Manson, he loves Manson will definitely get O'Neill

about this audible thing audible is an amazing part of my now my first book I can't make this up life lessons New York Times number one bestseller and I got bit I got bit by the bug wow as an offer I wanted to write a book I did it look in the successive had the opportunity came up for me to voice that book on Audible and the audible success was just as good if not greater my heart cover and people love the fact that the stories were real but hearing my voice and hearing me be personable while being real was a bonus from other things and they've ever had the privilege of listening to so I said I want another one man but I'm big on this motivation self-help inspiration thing I'm really big on trying to do my part so as I was telling you earlier I said in my life man I got so so many stories of all of my twists and turns in Right Moves and wrong moves and decision-making that enhance those moves or that devalue them and made them incorrect ultimately if I were to give information it's just the open up here hi to open up your eyes to to the reality of you competing with you I want people to understand that we lose because we are okay with ignoring our faults right is not until you can accept your faults your b******* that you can grow and do better we point finger a lot by we myself included I'm an example of it yeah I didn't do that because nobody told me I didn't get up I don't hear the lawn why don't you call me and get me up yo I don't know he's going to go eat going to go eat and tell me others for that a truly our responsibility and it becomes a habit force of habit so it's not a t break that habit that you can do bigger and better s*** so this audible original of mine called the decision is all making you looking s*** differently making you realize the tone of today and make you understand how much you're part of it I got a big thing with social media there where my social media is mind for people and the people now that is what the world thinks social media has mind f*** people into thinking that the comments below a post or what the world must be feeling and thinking about you the insecurity levels have raised to an all-time high because my belief is now I posted something people are saying these things underneath I don't want to go outside because this is how they feel so now put that s*** in my head I'm opposed to talk about that's why you looking at me like that what we now think that this is the way of the world and was so engulfed into it that the negative is so loud that you don't even see the positive even if it's overwhelmingly positive yeah there was a black billionaire that paid off student loans it was a story about a day-and-a-half love story popped up and reality star suck somebody's dick in the bathroom it went on for 3 weeks is f****** crazy news breaking in love with bad information and bad conversation by it was a natural human instinct the days when we were in a living in small villages worried about animals attacking us you had to be always worried about negative negativism thing you had a concert on cuz I could take your life positive with something that's great that's good and all but really got to concentrate on negative and unfortunately that human instincts carried over into this time where we don't really have the same fear of danger that we had before for the most part but we still concentrate on these negative things we still concentrate on negative comments negative Lawry's these negative things carry more weight because we have a natural inclination to keep an eye out for danger so it's like our human reward system has been hijacked been hijacked by social media this new thing that we're not prepared for reading Anonymous written things that are negative in the book called The coddling of the American Mind by Jonathan hate and he wrote about this with children about how many especially girl so many girls are experiencing was super high levels of self-harm suicide depression all because of social media because they're writing things and their friends are commenting on them and people are Anonymous saying you stupid fat b**** and other Generations before didn't have to deal with before social media there was nothing that could affect them in this way and you know stuff because there's gifts in his curses of course it is amazing benefits there was now we're seeing the you know the bad within it so what I encourage any and everybody to do is just understand who you are truly understand who you are learn yourself Jim learn yourself learn your pros and your kinds get your flaws get them out the way but with you not nobody else nobody this is a you and you think of the s*** that you know need to work on I'm telling you people when you really look yourself in the mirror and you start to pick yourself apart by yourself there's only room for improvement it's easy to ignore your b******* my audiobook a Live Like Me tutorial it's not a do what I did tutorial it I would never do that because I don't have all the answers all I have is stories and information that you can now be privy to that can allow you to make different f****** turns on this road of life it's not a do what I did tutorial it I would never do that because I don't have all the answers all I have is stories and information that you can now be privy to that can allow you to make different f****** turns on this road of life

knock knock anybody that is dealing with any type of mental struggle because that is something that's so serious because nobody understand right what that is except that person from I never I never talkative that too easy thing I talked to that the thing that I don't fully know about so you can only you can only have some type of remorse and in feeling of understanding for people that are battling any type of Mental Health I meant to help you get that this a different it's a different monster and different machines so whatever the reason to escape that are for you and from you you know that's that's something that's TBD to be determined between you and where was trying to help you people on the outside we got no right we have no right if you're not f****** dealing with the same thing you got no right to judge that ever cuz I know trying to put it into words but that's one of the more interesting things about talking to people it's like when you when you talk to people and you find out how they feel and think about things that shifts your own ideas of what life is and in the I'll try to look at life through other people's eyes and the only way you get that is sweet them talkin I mean I'm dealing with a nail in my kids and my daughter you know my daughter got mad this is why won't she got so messages I don't attack afford I said there's something that made you do that it's bigger than just this it's not about what we're dealing with now I said that wasn't that was something else that I've never seen and I said imma give you a second take some time to yourself I send later if you want to talk about anyting your dad is here so let's talk if you want to and we got this thing called free speaking Zone and a house free Spin Zone means as a parent I can't get mad at you about what you said I got to give you a conversation based off of what you said and I got to act as if you're not my child for that moment you cannot abused free speakers on though you can't abused it that don't mean every time you want trouble free speakers on your beauty and now you risk free speakers on going away voice and I was like yeah I said what's up and she just start talking to me about something they were bothered and when when we talk what I found is I can relate to my daughter because I know for sure that where I come from its allow me to see exactly what she seemed put so much more for so much more in this is on the timer hair was issued my daughter went to a big hair thing you know she wanted her hair to be a certain way and the hair wouldn't there's no way to her hair was going to be able to look like what she wanted to so the discussion was plenty of the young black curl your hair is not going to do with your friend here does you know my daughter goes to a private schools is white girls here you have to mix girls and you know these girls are out and they can jump in the pool get out and here's a certain way to make honey yours isn't going to do that but if you want a different look than that means that we can work on ways to obtain it but honey it's not going to happen overnight and I had to make sure that my daughter understood how beautiful she was I had to make sure to my daughter understood why it's okay for hair to be different and be unique and not the same I had to play full father programming of making you understand your value and my daughter needed that but it wasn't it wasn't something that just came out of nowhere like that I want to talk to you about my hair it was a anger that she later than came and wanted to discuss but if I didn't have the free speaking Zone that's what it just would have been in as a reason to say what I don't like it don't judge me that but this is really making me mad what's yours and you developed this philosophy that applies not just to work and not just his success but also to family and relationships there's a lot of carryover in all this it's like accepting things for what they are but looking at a positive way to improve them even terms of just communication with your family I mean that's priority it's it's so it's so dope to be able to build what we're building cuz it's not a tradition this is not we don't have a family tradition where the rarest I don't come from Mom and Dad same house kids dogs and dinner at night at 6 p.m. I don't come from that I don't know how to do so we are now learning that you know divorced ex-wife new wife step kids new kid brothers and sisters coincide with ex-wife new wife make sure that we all understand this is our world how do we co-parent bumps of course figuring it out of course kids house in our household let's build something dinners to make this a thing conversations no phones it's making the same movie night taco Tuesdays game night all is silly s*** that you may look past our memories family trips family walks walking the dogs together all of this s*** we're building so I'm fascinated at giving my kids ways to hold onto when they get older remember that time when we did set things said things said thing where are we at that summer remember when such-and-such happened and you fell in the thing and dad had to come get you omigod you know what that we do I want to go back to you know what we want to do we're building it so my hope is that as I grow older I'm able to look at a new a new era within the heart Dennis Hart family name this heart Legacy I'm looking at I'm looking at Generations you know I got two sons I got two sons man that's an unbelievable day because his name goes I got a daughter that's my oldest I'm about to have another daughter like now it's like f*** have you really it's bigger than you it's about this and it's about what they have but it's about what they remember I'm done my part in life to go back to what we talked about earlier by making this generation better than what I was I'm giving you the f****** tools guys you don't got to do what I do you don't got to be what I am but I'm giving you the tools to at least want to Aspire to be by making this generation better than what I was I'm giving you the f****** tools guys you don't got to do what I do you don't got to be what I am but I'm giving you the tools to at least want to Aspire to be

did you see did you watch the Jordan... I know I have to you have to watch them because he's he's an alien he's one of us he's one of you one of those aliens of aliens identify with and for people listening when I say aliens you know some Etta for people that's it doesn't mean I can Embrace aliens here. I did so much for everything okay but he he's different he's f****** different in with this shows you is how different MJ was that man was a f****** winner he was a winner and and that's it like that's it MJ one there was no there is no other conversation when you watch this Dock and you watch he approached his days and why he approached it and the things that he did in his reason for doing them and ultimately what he wanted and what his priority and what his goals were you go fuc he did it we know why get it it's not a coincidence that he's a champion it's Destiny he there was no other option it was Champion or bus there was no six-time MVPs All-Star and three Defensive Player of the Year and you know most likable player in the league and most remarkable know know if it's not a champion attached to my name was several f****** trophies attack there is no other conversation and you motherfukers around me if you do not understand why I am the way I am then this is not the place for you do your job I've never heard Michael Jordan talk the way the documentary show them talk do your f****** job when I pass you the ball hit the f****** shot that person now have to get better cuz I'm so nervous that it might pass me the ball not miss this f****** shot I'm never going to get a shot again do your f****** job when Mike is talking to you like that I thought we were just playing basketball I thought I was out here having a good time oh wait this is my job this is my profession I'm supposed to do this this in this if I don't do this I'm failing at my job you see these players today and you see the way that they are I promise you man rest in peace Kobe Bryant every bit of the same they give my guy LJ Flack and s*** I promise you LeBron James is nothing short of that I promise you these people that are winning f****** win because there is no other option you have to watch this. yo you got to text me after okay text me after and just go holy f****** s*** holy s*** man I get a cab and not the fuel that you're talkin about and that meter I promise you your meter fuk it I got it at the. I got up I don't know I promise you your meter fuk it I got it at the. I got up I don't know my fuel fuel fuel

uiu know Eddie Murphy Eddie Murphy I don't know him very well but I know his brother Charlie very well Eddie we had a dinner one night and it was Eddie Murphy Dave Chappelle me Chris Rock Chris Tucker and Dwyane Wade Gabrielle Union and Usher had came right so at this dinner and Chris was like yeah we should get let's just put dinner together or we all just come out because me and Chris love to f****** just he ready go like Eddie is pound-for-pound the funniest person you can never be around like effortlessly not trying Justin story this dinner goes down in history is the funniest the funniest night of my life and conversation and you got to see Comics be in all of one another you got to see it's appreciate each other like like everybody talked in it that this wasn't a 1-up story this was a conversation but you saw the you saw why the goats were the goats yes you saw want to go somewhere to goats you clearly saw that I was young in class and I'm the the guy that's coming up in the room turn up mic I'm happy to be there in about to get static man I'm f****** smiling ear-to-ear man and Eddie would say something in the Christmas light come on Rock and then I'm just being quiet I'm just f****** quiet and then I would have more power tuning but literally you saw why the goats were two goats as I'm telling one of the most epic games I have this picture framed in my house that's amazing tuning but literally you saw why the goats were goes wow as I'm telling one of the most epic games I have this picture framed in my house that's amazing

you come in here moving and shaking my you come in here making deals you on the phone already got to do what you're always moving I mean is there anything else to do is there anything else to do with extra gear in my step. Day I was like I love being around people like you my guy people around you people like you you're you're going for s*** all the time and it's infectious it's like a year you give off energy and when people are around you they want to they want to get s*** done to this location is not just me. I think that the last time I was here I conversation was such a great conversation because there was there was we both had point of views and when we share the point-of-use you elevated the other person's POV like when we were talking and I was telling you why I live the way I live why I am the way I am used springboard and then you said yeah because kept for me I've been doing this and we had this thing and yang thing going and it ended the conversation I told you one of the the best interviews that I've ever done and from a feedback process what people that just love with the discussion was love the tone of the interview two things that was said I felt inspired motivated after it was just great all-around permit check all the boxes it was for me too and I got a bunch of great responses from my friends from Pro that's why I know it's good when I get friends in my friends are all like pretty nails like that is a motivational motherfuker get s*** done now that it's fuel is fuel for puppy we need that everyone needs that you know I don't even this is this is not a Cheesy Segway alright this just makes sense from what you just said what you just said is the reason why I did the decision you said people need that it's fuel right I feel that in today's time what people are most selfish with his information you asked for it then I maybe maybe I'll tell you some stuff but it's a search and find me real good information information about how to get to success that's the that's the one from everybody across the board on some level information from someone that's done it or that's partaking in it and some degree will only add to the value of your journey it's only going to make it easier if not to say to you got to do what they said but what that information you're able to process it maybe use it maybe not but you got it that's what I wanted to do I got a life I got a hell of a life that I've lived pull-ups Downs potholes Cobblestone speed bumps Flat Road u-turns some smack brick walls that aren't ran into you know some revolving doors of back-and-forth and through it all my mental is only got better because I feel like I've been in I've been in a mental gym the mental Fitness that that coincides with life you know it should get better as s*** you should get wiser you should get smarter you should be able to make better than in all of my decisions came from the massive amount of f*** ups and I can now share those f*** ups I can now share the rights and the wrongs in the way to handle all the things that I've done and people can just take that information and go wow I never looked at like that who stars in the world how does he become one of the biggest stand-up comedy stars ever how the f*** do you do that you almost seem like an alien you know what the people on the outside but then when they hear you talk about your real life and talk about these f****** talk about these successes and talk about the lessons that you've learned man that's fuel for folks in a way that nothing else is because it's a lot of people that are bullshiting online just a lot of these motivational speakers that haven't done s*** and it's a it's a weird things like they're they're trying to give you Motivation by like sort of recite things that they think they're going to work leaving think that they think you want to hear something when you say it people are going to listen they're going to go all and you're so honest about everything which is every that's everything to people because when you're pure when your your your words are pure people take them right in they come right in there's no does not like hugs guys kind of f****** telling me something talk with Chase I got Chase JP Morgan Chase Apartments in mind and we were doing this morning that we were we are we doing the thing call Advance and black Pathways right over trying to cure financial literacy in the black community we've been thrown like your number to right now right and there's a conversation where you know they wanted to have set Bankers go and talk to the kids in the other city and I was like you can't you can send a white man that works for JP Morgan Chase to the inner city of sad Community Hood whatever to talk to these young black kids that has no idea about the life that the black kids living I said what you needed people that have actually come from these environments they have made it out of the environment and now understand how money works because when I talk to you I'm not talking to you with hypothetical preaching to you about what you should do what you got to do cuz I'm telling you what I did that didn't work I'm telling you I f***** off money and I'm telling you what I didn't know hey guys here's a fact there is no education that comes with money in the black community it doesn't you can go search for it that there isn't one that does not exist there is no one that is outright teaching the kids and a black community how to operate financially how to set up for your future there by talking to you about ownership homes mortgages Investments stocks that doesn't exist it doesn't exist it's not until you get out of that environment that you meet some people that are planning their life accordingly that you start to ask questions it's not till maybe college and on the later side of it that you're with people that are getting jobs in the future that you start to do it there is no prep or education young age you need a f****** man that can go then go amen let me tell you why you got to stop taking these free credit cards let me tell you why you got to stop putting the cable in somebody else's name and continue to f****** up let me tell you why you got to stop being okay with not having a bank account let me tell you why you got to stop using the check cashing place in a relationship let's build off of something that people can go I get that since then go back to your point my relationship has been based on me telling the truth I told JPMorgan Chase I want to go to the Ender City and I want to have these discussions but let me have on my way I don't want to have it in a JPMorgan Chase way and I got to credit them for backing me because the airline me with other people that share the same stories that have achieved certain Love Lucy best speak to the same thing so everything that I've done everything that I'm trying to do when I do talk about it I come proven I'm only talking about this because I really got knowledge about it I don't got knowledge about because I'm as smart as motherfuking world that's not what I was coming from Joe my knowledge is coming from don't walk the dog little monsters that I knew the other monsters Warren is bad and Door Number 2 but Door Number 3 is finally where you should go I messed up man I went to the first two doors wrong why can't I give that to somebody that that hasn't experienced those doors yet why can't I just get that information and possibly prevent them from walking into those doors and that's what's really locked up. That means so much to people it really that you're you're advancing people's possibilities it's I think that's what life should be about as as adults as adults we have a job to do what do you want to admit that your job is to set up the Next Generation that's our job what do you want to f*** in the middle of that kids it's your friends whomever you're supposed to live a certain way do certain things to set up for the next Generation to come in to be able to do better if you don't then you're not doing your part and if the world never f****** grows you got to raise your hand and be responsible because you're part of the lag what means that are f****** groundbreakers that was doing all the s*** doing that 15-20 years never shared the information so these new people come through and break new ground somebody got to do more than what the f*** I did I don't care who it is but you got to do more

some of our favorite stories that are someone who comes back like Dave Chappelle's a perfect example that I can do what the f*** I want only that Dave did it in the legendary way they are from all this money to do this Comedy Central show in a different way they want him to change it and tone it down they want to make it more suitable for advertisers too many voices is like you know what I'm just going to go to Africa and he just went to Africa amount just took off and then came back and said I quit stop doing stand-up he was doing he was doing stand-up in a park with a f****** Box Seattle sold out Arena f****** thing I'm doing to Seattle and we have two shows same night but do about 30,000 people pranks fun great day Seattle I get word to Dave Chappelle is in Seattle Dave Chappelle randomly put up a theater show he's performing tonight yeah he's performing tonight debut f****** in Seattle when you book a show here I want to f****** came through I'm here I'm at the theater I didn't know mine if I can get down there to you. I just put them up what time you think you going to get here I don't know I don't know why I push the time back my Dave Thelma doing that show up man I just call and tell him I'm going to push it back man I Rush after I show Dave has a trailer and it's like a little motor thing on the back of the trailer so I can go bus f****** motortrend like bus and then it's like a little the things that you push it in attached to it we've been doing cross-country taking our bikes man right across countries are just when I need money I just booked her show and stuff but the freedom relationships in the CEO hat in the the company's so you know I can't do certain things because the consequences aren't just for me it's for the people that are underneath this umbrella if something were to happen it's I have to be I have to be responsible I have to I have to understand that it's not just about me and envious and jealous of Dave's ability to go and be free as a comic in the but we desperately need to be us with desperately need to be and Dave can be and I bow down to him I called the I don't give a fuk by these numbers anything I got Dave and my opinion you're the goat in my opinion your last special has allowed you to surpass the Richard Pryor in my opinion Dave Chappelle I got to witness do groundbreaking controversial movement as a comedian and the times were comedy was being frowned upon comedians were being held accountable for doing what we thought we would never be ridiculed for the one person that stood on a pedestal that got the attention that no others can get outside of myself a rock a Seinfeld he said in the time where the f****** fire is the hottest I'm going to do what nobody else will you got a f****** applaud that you stood up for, he stood up for comedy weather you want to see that or not he did that when it was the most f****** pressure and when the times of we could cancel you by the way to the stupidest s*** that I've ever f****** witnessed in my 40 years of life the whole idea of how can kill you today with it what the goddamn in your life by the way this is a real feeling I mean you can't live no more this is how ridiculous it is the meaning of cancel culture do you say that my life is over I can no longer Survivor or provide for myself cancelled I don't know figure it out you canceled Dave Chappelle says f*** all that do what you want to do imma do me that is epic that is groundbreaking that is goat like Behavior so I bow down to mr. Chappelle he's very important is 1 most important figures in the history, it's because because because the fact that he's willing to do this when the scrutiny is the highest you know and also just his his just his story the back the way he did it the way he walked away for 10 years and then came back and immediately went right to the top you know that is my as my brother from another mother I love love him come out to the seller man Morgan Jose tonight I seen today what up I'm going to go up in Chris what up you don't come and watch you all right babe goes on stage does a moment with David probably in about 40 45 minutes in me and Chris both look at each other and at the same time without saying the word balled up the material that we just worked on atomizer book and Chris's bald of his little f****** thing and we were like he's unbelievable what we came in crafted we got some s*** that we wanted the f****** work on Dave just went up there and talk it's like he's living like a legend you know the man like if you if you wanted to have a legend of a comedian who talked about a guy who created the greatest sketch show of all time I mean it only went for two seasons but when you talk about like sketches like Clayton Bigsby when you talk about the Rick James gif these are so classic the Unstoppable and then it goes away is vanishes he's going to farm in Ohio is your where is he he's going to farm f****** farms and farm in Ohio what I'm doing stand-up and I get off stage and I open the green room and Dave's there I go Dave what are you doing hey Joe Denver you don't have a show schedule nothing sit down and he does 40 minutes and destroys I love that the best part of that story is you want to go up he's he's he is one of the one he's one of one one of one one of one that's what the f*** is should be embracing embracing embracing someone has nothing wrong with that there's nothing there's nothing wrong with embracing someone is doing f****** with you can demons great schitt's supposed to you have to you have to sing praise shower Praise on people that are doing it the right way and no one's ever done it better than the right way do down there Dave what do you want me to do it you got to come down man it's a good time we're going to have a good time and it's a Bard fires music Dave it's a farm you got to promise me alright I'm coming back I forgot I like literally I can only hope to be remotely close to his creative as he is at that point in my career and finest Jello like he's an amazing Jello right now who he is right in that compromise and no one can tell him any different he is who he is I mean he just he's unapologetically himself and he gets it he's his part of his Brilliance is not just being in a brilliant Observer and a brilliant orator and describe her of life but also and being who he is perfectly like he doesn't have any conflict in being who he is he knows who perfectly IQ doesn't have any conflict in being who he is

NFL that was a Tyson documentary the time when he's talking about walking into the ring that has he steps in the Ring Of All the nervousness or things are going through that is his confidence bills is get Sports Arena steps of the road I'm a God what he says in America that Mike Tyson is that there's so many different levels and in pieces of death down to Mike Tyson in his story one of the I mean it's one of the strongest docks I've ever seen but he's he's one of those guys one of those super winners that just mean when he was young I mean everyone knows the story but if you don't he was the base that No Love in his life until he met Custom Auto and Custom Auto became a father figure but he'll also custamado is a hypnotist and psychologist in a lot of ways and a fantastic boxing coaches well and took this young kid and showed him that you're going to get love from accomplishment you're going to conquer and you're going to become the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time and through his tutelage up until the moment he died Mike Tyson was just I just have Phenom II thing that we have never seen before he was the pitbull with no leash that that respected one person yes and anybody else at any given time fear the f*** out of his Pitbull because nobody else knew hey man whose what is hay what is this with a little nervous system no reason for sure okay oh my God I wish him the best I know he's back there trying and stuff you do you just want him to be safe and and and healthy and the time but you know that's a man I don't ever count out but goddamn seeing them just put those little displays of terrifying fight is its what is terrifying anyting like a year ago when I had him in here for the podcast who said he didn't want to stroke his ego you didn't want to work out because if I work out my ego fires out there is like a look at this look at this s*** here was crazy is one of the best MMA trainers when the best striking trainers in the world he came from a legendary camp out of Brazil siba Brazil called shut the box it's like the legendary team of marauders from Brazil they were like the golden Glory Days of pride pride was in a competitor to the UFC was defined in a lot of ways to Glory Days are defined by this one team from Brazil that have filled caldero was a part of and then that guy training Mike Tyson and he's been super successful training mixed martial arts fighters to but I found it very interesting Hennessy the way they're going out at me he's not boxing he's trying to destroy motherfukers listen you you I respect the trainer I respect the trainer for standing in that in the way that s*** like that's the one accidental oops missiles that's was still in the presence of greatness and as people I don't I don't think we shouldn't forget that but what's crazy is he's 53 years old he's doing this and he's only been doing this again for like less than a year so it's only been like 4-5 months has really been training hard and everything is just coming back it's I mean I wonder wonder what it is I wonder if it just was bored I mean I really wanted this is this is the crazy s*** Jesus Christ if you saw that guy training he was a 22 year old kid like man this motherfukers going to be something because he's just got an intensity that you rarely see from any fighter there's a fuel RI that burns inside of him that you can't manufacture that you either have that or you don't and he found a way to re-reading knighted do you beat me to it because he's just got an intensity that you rarely see from any fighter there's a fuel RI that burns inside of him that you can't manufacture that you either have that or you don't and he found a way to read reading knighted do you beat me to it and beat me to it

what what was the motivation to do this was there a one thing or was there it was it was it A build-up me being me being one of the only black guys and our entertainment space because it's a handful of us that get to look behind the curtain. Is a curtain is another room and it's a curtain and then that room is some s*** happens if there's a room that you get in any information and understanding that comes in it it's it's unreal the stuff that you started discover but it's a discovery it's a discovery you got to stumble upon this Treasure of information and Discovery and if you don't maybe you're in the right environment to you here's some stuff you can ask him questions 9 times out of 10 is not offered to search and find and when I was constantly in those situations and I find myself saying so how but why will then what did you do wrong damn after that then what what the f*** did you went out to have that even work I was in a room with Jeff Bezos and Robert Kraft this was the picture that won the Super Bowl and where room after in Tom Brady's like giving a speech thanking Robert for all Robert thanks time and I'm with my wife and her friend and Jeff Bezos walks in my friend go to call Jeff Bezos so it should have nothing to say what's up are you going to that Kevin's room full of people don't look like to dudas thirsty thirsty for what for f****** information dick face just chill it's relax now she's about to quit to me that's the problem everybody's too cool everybody's too f****** cool right everybody wants you to think that they know you don't know you know s*** we don't know s*** he must be to talk to you to find out you being a guy that f****** creator and accomplish some s*** that is a phenomenon I want to shake your hand I would love to talk one day can I have a man good meeting you question will Bumpass one day hey if we do it don't you remember this I just want to tell you I admire you I don't need you I'm not asking for anything but what I did I set myself up for another conversation but when I got the opportunity you're talkin here but I'm a come over man I admire you I want to f****** ask you a bunch of question does Amazon ship and that's why you came up with it I don't think there's a time and place but I want you to see my face if you ever seen a photo of him sitting at his desk and there's a banner behind them a plastic nylon like hanging Banner that says amazon.com didn't like the 1990s when people are selling books on the internet and this is shity looking Ikea desk with his dad look at him this is him are so you this marker spray paint desk that dorky looking dude with the cords buff and jacked and s*** Sheezus now he's a Savage that's basically Conquering the business world richest man well I think there's a bunch of them oil billionaire yeah I didn't there wasn't a level of cool that I had that that would keep me from just going and saying hello or asking a question for that matter and it's being in those spaces that Intrigue the thought I'd like the way this is what I'm going to do my part by part and say it, say hey when it comes to producing and production here's what I've done his walls that I've hit and here's where it's really hurt me but here's my learn and here's why I do it this way my ambition is fueled from possibility I'm giving you all this s*** with me with me listen to you talk about these things and then one day succeed and run into you the same way you ran into phazyme got run into Kevin Hart I'm a guy got to tell you I got where I am because I listened a listen to talk about your life I listen to you talk about your fa cups and that you made me feel like you were human like I thought you were just Kevin Hart like when people see you your Kevin Hart you're walking the red carpet your urine Jumanji really all over the place is Bucking comedy specials for 50,000 people in arenas and ship people don't know that you were human you don't seem like a human cuz you're not like a human no but when you talk you talk about your life and some kid might just get a spark off of that and blow that spark make that ember flame up and take over and next thing you know you'll run into that person and some other Super Bowl party I can't even that I can't even tell you that there's a meeting that's that's what it's about and it's going to impact impact some people you know there's going to be people that don't have room for it right they're all closed up it said that if a cop has no room in their cup full of their own s*** other people they can have a spot for you they don't respond that you're going to be going to make that engine better you going to make the whole engine of their life better this there's things that I think about all the time when I'm working out or when I'm tired or I think about inspirational things that people have said and they they through the shift shift my mind steals me up makes me makes me think about things in a different way and I can accomplish more because of those thoughts I can accomplish more because of that energy that some person and you did that to me man you did that to me the last time we had a conversation I remember leaving our conversation going that motherfukers motivational and I got a lot of text messages from a lot of friends and a great one but it was it was a shift like when when when someone is really gay bastard in their life and you around them there's a shift in your own life and that's this is a tangible thing it's like if you could see it on a meter you know it's almost like your meter goes up and you feel it but you don't you don't quantify you don't it's not something you put on a scale is not something you'd see an immediate but it's real and you got to believe it's real know it's real and when you doing this when you putting out as audiobook and even his conversations that you put out there when you people know what you've accomplished and you put these conversations out in resin on a scale is not something you'd see an immediate but it's real and you got to believe it's real know it's real and when you're doing this when you putting out as audiobook and even his conversations that you put out there when you people know what you've accomplished and you put these conversations out in resonates man it's so valuable

I say this man in Psych that's the story you just putting that story together and I don't I don't think you know with without without the stories what do you talk about what you talked about what is the interesting side of conference conversation about your growth or your journey if it's if it's if it's just the easiest I just took the highway do the exit I found the gold everybody else did it snow and I have a trust fund and I never have to work out what is it with the interesting side to that like I don't there's no there is no bonus in that like yeah I just f****** broke my goddamn back right the dopest thing for me about doing that was not being able to walk but then being told that if I'm patient I can recover fully I can get back to myself and meet instantly thinking in my head I can actually be better than what I was if he told me I can get back to understand be better for the game is to be clicked on tomorrow we start we play new level I can't f****** walk goddamn here we go can't wipe my ass I'm not f****** getting it so I can't get into gym PT is some weird s*** I'm just taking two steps on the f****** booster ball and I'm like this is a little discouraging but I know they said I'm supposed to do at 3 days I'm going to listen to him but on those other on those other four days is there anything else that I can do to be working on can we can strengthen your lungs at work on your breathing his breathing machine okay what about my my hands there anyway my senses tennis ball can let me squeeze in the shop doing anyting know we don't have anything like that we don't recommend it so if I found something and I researched if it's just motor skills and working on his at 5 yeah that's fine but you know it's it's it's okay if that's what you want to do okay I saw that yeah I'm not getting the same the doctors are just telling me that stuff that I need to know stay within those lines from the find out things I can do cuz I'm playing the game now and I'm going to overexert myself but the game is to be better how do I be better than what I was because if I do that for me I just beat me beating myself pause if I can keep doing that then that means that I'm in a battle with only person that f****** make sense I'm in a battle with the only person that I really want to f****** beat and it's me I don't care about anybody else I have no worry or gripe about the next man or woman the journey or or or or their level a success that's not what I'm what I'm up against if I can continue to outdo me from the day before then then I'm ahead and I'm heading that's that's what I that's the new found the Newfound energy that I got out of life now you know I'm known this amazing Rocky story what my son is in my head nobody else is watching this movie but me it's in my head this is rakhi this is the comeback this is exactly imma come back better than ever I'm going to be 41 my body's going to be ripped up I might be about 8% body fat and then and then I'm ready ready for what Kevin text me before the podcast but I want to talk too much about it cuz I wanted to hear it now wouldn't so everybody can hear it what what exactly was the injury I fractured so I fractured my my spine right and it's from my it's either from my T10 to my l14 my l12 might eat in whatever order that goes in so I how many fractures I mean that's f****** that's your that's your spine that's about so you fractured basically everything I mean you got like this face and my back so you think I'm already small right so this is practically my whole back if you look at it it's right here cuz you look at this so all of his fractured and what happens is they had to fuse my spine so they have to remove the discs in between they basically had to fix so so the bones Wentworth fracture base of your spine is now out of whack the things that keep your spine connected and that allow you the flexibility are out of whack I got pieces of those bone fragments that are out of place out so so they got to think out a fuse that s*** back together so I got I think I'm one I don't I don't know about the disc I don't know I don't have that answer that's that's a little too technical for me and I should know that cuz my body but what I do know is that this thing that's my spine has eight screws and he's a screws now hold it together so through this time of healing because I now have metal in my back it was about getting your back to be comfortable with the metal but also back to a normal level of flexibility so where people f****** when you get the type of energy you stay still you allowed at metal against if you don't don't you're not moving it so so now your movements become robotic with it so because as soon as I got out the hospital I started and I didn't have days off as soon as I got out I started physical therapy I did not wait I didn't I got off medication I said I'm not taking her meds you know my dad was on drugs I think I'm not f****** around with that so I dealt with the pain but I got to start now because every day to die makes it harder to go so because I was you know back and forth side to side doing all those things I got I got my body to get accustomed to it and I got flexibility so now you see me working out it looks as if I'm back and you know I'm probably 98% back to myself right now but the work that I put into my core and my upper body over the years I would save me outside of God of course because you know I want to tell us to just for just for you to know this health and wellness it is so much bigger than what you may think it is taking care of your body you don't know when all that stuff comes in a play and adds up correctly you know the the human body is amazing recovery the ability to snap back and go back to what it once was the body muscle memory all that stuff plays a major factor so my healing was a lot faster because of the years of work that I put into it before now if I had enough and I didn't have that cord or I'll be paralyzed I've been f****** paralyzed I mean it said you literally talked about this much doctor look me in the eyes you're lucky to be walking your this much if your core wasn't in the shape that it was and if you didn't have the play strip to take whatever that impact wasn't stay you would have been snapped and you never be walking again so that instantly thank God I go you know what thank God for my trainer who jumped into my life at a certain time and change my way of thanking boss Ron boss everline and you know we've been rocking for 7 years and in the consistency of four years before of every day everyday so now I'm like you're not wasting your time ever Sonos people say what are you working out for what are you getting in shape for why you going everyday you don't know when you going to need to f****** tap into all of the work that you got you don't know you don't know if you ever need it but to just know that you've taken care of yourself to know that you've given yourself a chance to f****** not only survive but you giving yourself a chance to perform at a high level of day today by taking care of your engine this is this is my machine so I'm taking care of the engine just like any car oil changes just like you know your f****** your brakes your your tires the road is all initiate you taking care of that sort of the great ride every time you got to do the same with your body don't ignore that s*** people you know my flies right now heart attack Strokes you know kidney failure you got people with diabetes you got people getting legs arms cut off from Bad eating from from Bad eating over course of years take that shitt serious don't wait till the end that's serious that's not that's not a joke so when I look at people dying around me we have no control over when the day is going to come going to try to help amplify my time here as much as I can but the big one right amplify your tongue you have energy you have different kind of energy that someone is unhealthy you have the ability to push forward you have the ability to get you that you have more enthusiasm cuz your body feels good so you can you recovering from your your back injury look how long ago was it injury how long ago was it crashed now September so was that September October November December January February March April was his mate Amazon Barbie dreams about Tina and you said you like 98% 98% I'm down to probably 10% body fat right now and as far as like movement you basically do everything and throwing everything wow doing everything I'm up to running again I'm probably had I'm probably at 3 I can go three and a half miles straight before my before I get tight what are you doing for the Physical Therapy you know that's Desiree Michelle at the doctor Pat you. Make sure that getting a massages get no work done because I'm doing so much within working out I don't want to not take care of that as well so from heating it from you no treatment just just literally doing things to to make sure that I'm I'm constantly working on those muscles and not forgetting I'm getting older I don't want to act like that's not the case or that's not a reality I'm 40 now so how do I take care of this machine so at 50 I'm not moving as if I'm 70 Roanoke I would say that's been that's been a great adjustment but one has really made me feel better like stretching you know I didn't understand the importance of stretching of actually resting you know I was got to get it let's go clanging and banging baby girl hanging and banging but now you don't make sure you get your rest time so that you can come back and give you energy your cardio changes row machines I'm on I'm on a bike you know how I'm pelotone and I'm I'm hydro and I'm running so that the workout change and you become more consistent with your system with my new system so I think by July July my my goal is to my 41st birthday this July 6th to be around eight eight and a half percent body fat at the age 41 so it's all about looking good with the body fat for me for me the body fat means that I've just been super focused like to eat I don't people take that I don't eat I am not a foodie though so it doesn't really count but you know I'm not on some strict crazy diet I'm not a foodie man I don't know I don't eat red meat I mean no red meat no no fish no Seafood I'm a plant-based eater behind every once in awhile I get that or understand that it's like just because you make the decision to go and try plant-based doesn't mean that you have to engulf and that World Learning understand and see if there's benefits that work for you and then you got to be open to making adjustments to do you know CT Fletcher I do know of him I don't know him but I know of him love. Got it done and he don't know how he feels or like he's had some weird feelings about having another person's heart inside body and he went a hundred percent plant-based just changed everything changes and tired diet and put all these videos updates his heart came from the Asian woman uses heart came from an Asian woman I don't think he's confirmed that cuz I don't think they tell you but I think he's he would you want to know do you want to know ya, want to know ya maybe who knows now he didn't I don't believe he knew last time I saw him in here but you know the first time I met a powerful God you know it's still your mother f****** and he's just always disliked booming voice and just gigantic muscles and he's all drive and go and then when his heart failed and then he had to have his heart replaced I saw him about a year later he had this remarkable calm that had to come over and he was just like that's different person very loving and embracing and all this happiness and all this joy and all this appreciation and now all you just play and he swears by the headlight for him that's that's the way to go to my bed light at night when you come close to that light and it's in that lifetime talking about his death yes if you come close to that light when you do and if you are fortunate enough to come back from that light you value life differently you you can't there there there are no bad days for me there are no bad days for me at my biggest crying life came from the first daylight came home from the hospital because I never I never had to see that house again like there's there's an option I mean never seen that home again there was an option I mean ever walking on that driveway again there was an option of me never seen my wife and my kids again like the bigger and I mean it wasn't it wasn't like a like a build-up cry it was pull up get out feet touch the ground what the fuk just came over me boohoo like what the f*** what just happened by the way a painful cry because my back my back was f***** up so I'm crying hard and I'm in pain but the realization of none of this has to be how to control ride Hey Kevin you're not in control buddy you thought you were you move for a minute like now I got this imma do that don't worry about it I got it will be good imma make sure it happens as if you were in control that's what it is it's literally that at any decision at any given time you can be over cuz not until you get close to that like that you truly respect that I respect that there are today's a man miss me with any b******* yeah I'm smiling because I have no reason to be angry because I don't have to be here you appreciate that Sunshine cuz you been in the pouring rain man hey hey that's a f*** yes who you talk about CT Fletcher you talk about his calm you know what man I've been on the other side he's he's been yeah let's go and great it doesn't mean that he doesn't still have that but now there's a different energy in the different level of relaxation at can come because I know how fortunate I am to be taking these steps yeah it's not just the theory everyday really truly is a gift it's not changed everything really I couldn't do that I'm talking you you take it for granted you take it for granted man all of this all this conversation is clapping the zzo hey come here all this s*** here you just you just think it's okay you go go to go through a situation with compromise how long does it take for you to start walking again normal or semi normal Allied in the hospital because I didn't want them to know that that I was having pains I thought they were going to stop me from letting me continue to try my walks in like day 7 and a hospital and I had the Walker and it was slow walk. I was dragging his upper body and and I was masking it as if I was feet right because I didn't want to trying like that was my that was my that was my f****** my my my go get my drive for anything was those that half hour of 40 where I can get up and go walk because I was just laying in the bed all day and you know God blessed me and my wife and my kids there was this times like this is the remote control and I'm in the bed just want to get to the control well I can't get to it if it if you didn't position to control down here by my hands so I could get it this here throws my whole f****** but now I can't press the button to call nurse and every second is babe can you can you grab the control for me have do one of the time with my son my son was like f****** my son just slept in the bed with me he was like I'm here. I'm up my son didn't want to go to school my daughter want to go to school cuz it won't leave my side they stay there and middle of the night if they hurt if they heard me what you want they were up my son doubled his nurse my daughter double does Nurse Nico doubled as it you know they they were there my brother came and that's when the that's when they care about what was important really changed the s*** that I thought was important to think that you think are important you get to looking around and hospital rooms for walls none of that s*** that you think is important in there it's only these people none of the other s*** was in there none of it none of it was f****** in there the the discomfort of not being able to do the love and energy made me go it's going to be alright I'ma get there cuz you definitely feel defeated a little bit and so how long before you walk without a walker out stubborn man's probably two and a half weeks too but it was I'm giving the perception that it's that is better than what it is and I had the back brace on you fake it till you make the it was out I definitely I definitely I definitely was was smiling to worry yeah I got ice me let me I'm going through it and figure it out I don't want that worried placed on anybody else I told you I stop f****** taking meds so every night was it was a horrible night that's so much better for you though just accept that pain every night I did that with my knee surgery and it's obviously a much less painful thing but I took that s*** once from one of my knee surgeries one day and I was like this I feel so f****** stupid I said no no I was talking to pieces I was by myself alone in my apartment and I was thinking this is Beano live in New York and I was like I'm not doing this again this is one day I'd rather I'd rather be in searing pain and have my senses than to be stupid I felt so dumb dumb dumb I'm not looking for that back sensation it's a terrible sensation but I know what it is this is letting me know that there's a problem and we will fix that problem actually I don't like the look that comes with being like what I see what people look like that I don't like that look and I don't like that I don't want to look I don't want to look like that is there a struggle to find time like to demanders the time between work and family relationships and I had that accident accident was the the the best eye-opening experience ever and I mean it's it's I was married to my career dating my family right I'm all about this work and all about this hustle kranitz nothing wrong with that it's a good thing but after a certain point you got to prioritize accordingly when you when you get to a certain point where the decisions that can be made our little more control and you have the ability to maneuver differently because of the success that you've obtained make those adjustments I didn't make those adjustments I was still hustle hustle hustle great Dad we're doing stuff I'm home I'm getting back home but my in-and-outs three days I am out today 3 days I'm out I got to go from the movie y'all come down for the weekends all right I'll see you guys will eat dinner with do stuff and it's great cram it all in all right y'all got to go I'm working and it's not bad but now all right I'll from the movie after I'm done filming a movie while I got I need to take 30 days off I need to take 40 days off that should have made in the fam now and you go tour it was just file year-and-a-half we out for days out the f*** week I'm out year-and-a-half I got to get it now let's go a month and a half. For 3 weeks I'm with the fam so I still have my three days a week that I was here but then I'm going to stop for three weeks this is dedicated to Pham times and nobody do anything with me talk to him I'm home now my office I was in that office when you f****** open office open at 9 I'm there 8 you know there's a chance that I may be in that office to f****** 6 now you have no matter what guys that day in the office has to end it like three I got to be home for dinner I got dinner with the fam my priorities have changed but it brings me back to the decisions that you're now able to make based off of life's circumstances life's lessons so because of all the s*** that I went through because of the things I now got to see because of that hospital room and those four walls and me seeing my family and what that love did for me into me or I'll be damned if I f****** look past that I'll be damned if I'm not doing supposed to do and give that the same amount of attention and return cuz my I got open f*** is that why that happened what are you saying to me was I supposed to what okay I'm going to assume I'm going to assume and I'm going to look at the signs that are clearly being given I'm going to try my best to do my part I'm going to try my best to grow so my time now is it's so valuable but the priority within my time or making sure that the people that I love and that love me have some time when it's all said and done I want to know that I made those adjustments I want to know that I did my part you achieve that balance absolutely but it was learned which was go get it I'm out I got to go get it to do which I still do do I don't want to make some like that isn't in me but there's a balance there's now a balance that's a tradition life is it balanced and appreciate especially appreciate family right it's it's then I had to learn and then I'm still learning it's not something that I'm knocked out the park completely up because it's a growing f****** you got to just keep being a sponge and being willing to f****** grow

I think that we're living in his age now of you know like this all the time everything is just being broadcast all the time and there's no such thing as like digging up a pass anymore because everyone just put their foot there life out there making us go dig into someone's twitter theater YouTube history whatever you want to do so there's this wave coming up like the oh yeah I tweeted out stupid s*** when I was 18 years different now than they were in five years ago but there's a generation of people putting luminol on people's online history that that will die out and then it'll turn into I'm going to go yeah you should see the s*** I like that won't that won't land awaited it is now we don't we not under the illusion anymore that these aren't real people because we want them to be presidential or we want them to be represented we're not under the illusion anymore that they that are that they're not real people it's almost like when they had to admit the WWE was fake like okay now we can just enjoy it for what it is you don't have to have these arguments with you your friends over whether or not it's fake it's scripted but it's scripted Mayhem and destruction they are scripting out these people these men and women going in the script you're going to fall 40 feet onto wood table of glass yes we scripted that to happen but it's still a person doing that yes Venus and racism that goes beyond I think Athletics wrestling fake got it it's it's it's definitely definitely scripted it's not like they're risking it all because if they don't know what the outcome is going to be it's different than an actual athletic event but it's still pretty badass like is as far as what they're able to do I mean they don't get enough credit for either cuz while we were doing it before the the lockdown if they're doing it 250-plus days a year traveling all over the country throwing each other on tables and then in the nineties like X Games came into play and then all the sudden my name was was being well and was well-known not mainstream but getting there and then our video game came out and then it was just like all you're just a sell-out why and it was like cuz of the video game and 14 is McDonald's and asked me the commercial I would have jumped on it are you kidding me like I wasn't even done with my whole life I still do so it was more like they thought some I change my values and was just like I haven't changed my value system it's just that I'm getting these opportunities finally I've been doing this for most of my life for the most part it's your opportunities that they're not so the best way to dismiss that or diminish it is to say that you're a sellout cuz you're on a video game but but you're not but so what I'm saying is that just sort of that sort of Steel my resolve we're so once social media came into play people talking s*** online I was like you're not getting to me that you were cheating by using that technique how that must have sucked yeah it was from a it was from a skater that I really respected to he was quoted the magazine that was it was crushing that such a b**** ass approach other people s*** on it and but the idea that you doing it your way would somehow or another be cheating is to me it seems so strange that doesn't make any sense like I said at the time and it was like why are you why are we fighting in our little tiny world you know I kind of given up on my peers on my schoolmates I knew I wasn't going to fit in there and so was like I found this thing and then just like you guys don't like me the way I do it rough a real parallel is when you were talking about these large-scale meat processing plants a perfect for petri dish for viruses to grow so are factory farms and so are these Farms where your stuff in pigs next to each other you doing all this unnatural stuff it's unnatural for people to be stuffed into a warehouse right next to each other shoulder shoulder working all day it's unnatural for them to be stuffed in these homes shoulder-to-shoulder bad food and and all the things that you would need to keep your body healthy and strong the same can be said about these factory farm such situations one thing that I find so attractive about the way you run your farm is that there's no weirdness and watching these animals during the day they they seem like animals just doing normal stuff you see a chicken wandering around just packing up the grass looks normal see a chicken in a cage getting fed out of a little cup or something it does it looks all kinds of f***** up right it doesn't feel right now we have the phrase respecting the pinkness of the pig and the chicken is of the chicken and we know that these diseases are all coming from these place I mean there's a ton of agricultural diseases you know that are based from these Factory on situations with these animals live in these real horrific conditions and then the bacteria jump and look I mean they're eight look if you ate in your toilet every would you like to eat your toilet everyday that's and that's how that you're there breathing in there fecal particulate matter which is putting lesions in their tender respiratory membranes making making a lesions there and and so when you have those kinds of conditions at end of not getting exercise or not getting free and so the not getting salad or not getting any Vitamin D from the sun shine and so what happens is you get an extremely concentrated host host facility for pathogenicity that's what happened you get a break concentrated host facility cuz there's always a host there close to each other the pathogen doesn't have to say wow I wonder if I can make it you know that half-mile over to another know they're always right there and so you're right it it's like it's like an incubator and so if we wanted to sit down if we want to sit down and say let's say we had a James Bond conspiracist you know and said we're going to form a committee and and make a pathogen friendly Farm friendly Farm well we would have only one species weed crowded up we take out the oxygen that's the fresh air the sunshine would give it we give it a minimal a minimalistic diet at what I've just described is modern efficient industrial factory farming you couldn't design a better system for for conductivity of pathogenicity the government doesn't really seem to have any sort of straightforward plan as to how people can bounce back from this I mean it was one of the weirdest quotes I think it was Trump that said this was talking about businesses and restaurants that they'll be open maybe not with the same owners but they'll be open again did you see that quote no I don't I don't I didn't see that but what does that really mean is that just mean like a different business will be created probably how it's going to go down is it Trump says restaurant to make comeback just maybe with new owners yet she said I mean that don't that does not make me feel good bad if I'm a restaurant owner you know when there's a few restaurants that I'm always shouting out on the podcast that are owned by friends of mine that these businesses are hurting so bad they they went like that to no customers or a very small percentage of customers were to take when they were you know they had dining every night and they have these bills and they had their business set up in a way that you do you have to make x amount of money in order to stay open and they were successful in their doing well in one of the toughest businesses to be successful in and then all sudden the rug gets pulled out so what's the solution should people just be able to go to restaurants and everybody works there was a waiter or cook or they just hit maybe get sick and then more people die but that doesn't sound good to anybody either so what is the solution I don't know but I don't think that an Arctic particular case I don't think Turner has the answers Moana thinks he's been criticized for is he's decided to open up production for television and film but not churches you know there's another thing they've done it's really not so my friend Adam Curry turn me onto they closed Alcoholics Anonymous meetings but liquor stores were in a central business that is yeah I was approved and not approved and I don't I just don't think that it's in a small think the information constantly changing and I think that they're they're going office hold information they haven't made adjustments and then on top of that I don't think they're qualified to I don't think they're qualified a president like one person is involved in the economy and environment all these different things I don't think won Governor can really be smart enough to know a what kind of impact going to have eggnog close all these businesses down and be which ones get to open up and what is essential and why and it's just it's very frustrating for all involved and it highlights one of the reasons why you know the way we do government is you know it's not perfect it's it's not it's definitely better than a lot of ways the lot of places in the world that still has lot of holes in it it's just it's very frustrating for all involved in it highlights one of the reasons why you know the way we do government is its you know it's not perfect it's it's not it's definitely better than a lot of ways the lot of places in the world that still has lot of holes in it

schedules are one of the very weirdest elements of society where we are we're allowing people to just lie but clearly lie but we feel like the LIE is so obvious that you have to be so dumb to believe them I can't help you and this is how I made this now did you recently cuz I was talking about YouTube censorship and how YouTube is decided they're going to pull down videos from doctors who have different opinions on how to handle the coronavirus and criticisms of how things are and I might gets really interesting that they make that line but that's the line that doctors practicing Physicians they'll pull their video down but people talk about the Flat Earth believe that up cuz it's it's like it's so dumb it's like you can leave that up that one's that one so dumb you have to be a moron to think the Earth hollow and if there's aliens living inside it travel around laser beam videos that say that they'll leave those up and they'll leave televangelists up but then it to these doctors that are saying we're looking at statistics this is the deaths this is the deaths in terms of age groups and this is why it's not nearly as dangerous as we thought it was and these quarantines are not the the best way to handle it we think is better still take that video down even if it's someone who's saying rational things and I don't think that's smart I don't think that's a healthy way to handle things I don't think it's good for the debate I taken in fact it strengthens the resolve of the people the watch those videos and some of those points resonate with those people I think that's not the way to handle it I don't think removing those videos as the way to handle it I think the way to handle it is let other people with opposing point of view put their videos up and let people discuss and debate and see which one makes more sense to you and usually the weight of the information overwhelm the b******* and at least with most people I don't understand why it's okay to leave some obviously full of s*** videos up but take down things that are very very controversial but debatable so this this now gets into that part of your episode with Bridget from over the weekend that I saw where you basically accurately characterized the view that I had last time I was on with you about the regulation of social media but take down videos that YouTuber whoever disagrees with one can make an argument that there is no real action someone would take because they believe the Earth is flat that would endanger others I mean I guess you might try to go to the edge and see if you fall off or something right like but there's no actionable thing for the most part that Flat Earth belief these quarantines are dangerous because if you're not exposed to bacteria your immune system will be out of practice essentially and it's not is going to shut down it's not going to work as well and then another doctor another YouTube YouTube channel did a Counterpoint where he said he's talking about the hygienic Theory but he has it backwards it is true that if you were never exposed to dirt and bacteria in it will impact your immune system but it's actually the opposite is what happens it's that because you're not regularly exposed to things your immune system will overreact and it'll start attacking things that aren't really a threat okay so what's the harm I guess right like there was a video where these doctors identified what they think is the problem with the quarantine and then another doctor came in also it's also been proven that people that are around a lot of different people and consoling supposed to people have stronger immune systems because of that that it does get practice and it does get strengthened by exposure is good but that what is being asserted will happen from staying home for 2 months is is both wrong and it wouldn't happen in 2 month anyway the idea that we can't see me until I was wondering about that whether or not it was like a cardiovascular system I did it only responds to the level of you no work that it needs to to do like your cardiovascular system email you if you run you take some time off it slacks was really quickly it'll be a real shame if that was the case the immune system I don't think it is but I mean I guess the point I was trying to make was a few there a lot of people who are understandably frustrated by what's going on they're looking for any excuse to just let it rip let me speak and going to whatever end so I think that I play Devil's Advocate there is a different level of risk from allowing some of this disinformation to be propagated that doesn't exist with leaving Ladder Up need someone to stablish some guidelines or something like that real quick what are the problems with this argument though is that particularly liked those doctors in Bakersfield they weren't spreading disinformation they were basically spreading the actual facts of fatalities and age groups and you know they just had a different person back to their participation not even the different interpretation cuz they're basically just a different Viewpoint of how they should move forward and they also discussing things like furlough doctors and nurses because hospitals are no longer doing elective surgery so in the many hospitals are in the verge of bankruptcy which apparently is true but the problem is that's not disinformation and it's so if you're saying that it's getting people this information makes them make poor choices and they could be putting themselves at risk for putting loved ones at risk because of that yes okay I'm with you yeah I agree but this isn't this information this is an actual information it's just in with a different perspective other than what we're getting which is only one point of view from the World Health Organization of people subscribe to those ideas so it's not a lie but I think your point of if someone believes in the Flat Earth there's no harm in that that's true so if someone believes in pizzagate they think that there's kids being held in a basement somewhere they going shoot up the store then it is a problem right and all that kind of a video I could understand where someone would say Hey you know that shouldn't be up there because this is b******* in this is this is what gets cost in that don't think it's the same argument we're all trying to figure out what's going on with a medical situation and two practicing Physicians to actual medical doctors are talking about their perspective on this virus so now I don't think they're really on the same line I totally agree that these are not all equivalent situations regulation should be in place play tour the sort of thing the point that I had made last time we talked about this was not necessarily that I'm in favor or against having some kind of infrastructure that says here's how is social network has to operate YouTube Twitter whatever we can talk about that and I'm glad to my argument last time we talked was I don't know what the legal case is how do you define legally what it is that is supposed to happen is it and there's also a double standard element of it because there's a lot of really really loud right-wingers or saying the left is being propped up on social media and the right is being suppressed to put it very simply and they're calling for regulation they're against new regulation on gun safety there against business regulation there against stay-at-home or Etc now they want to regulate tweets like that's where now they want regulation extremely cynical and hypocritical to me but we don't even necessarily have to dig into that to think about like okay if we regulated how do we regulated who gets to decide where you start in the 17 hundreds had no idea what it's like do you still have freedom of speech if you could just talk and and you can't tweet while I guess you do right do you have still have to get the word out well you do but you don't have freedom like you are I do what are you good to eat or you can make a YouTube video and who gets to have that and is that an essential service is that a thing like the post office or a thing like the electricity and utilities is it essential oils and essential thing I think one could make the argument that in 2020 it's used by so many people to convey so much information it's so significant that I believe it isn't a sin and I think that just Banning someone because you don't like what they say or you don't like how they say it I don't think that's the solution nor do I think there's a clear solution because I think that if you have someone who is hateful and is doxing people and insulting people and stalking people online and saying horrible things that's not good either right there laws about that in person you can't harass people in person why can you harass people online why can you put up your address and have a bunch of people send terrible why is that okay well it shouldn't be okay either we need to figure out what's okay and what's not okay and I think one of the problems with isolating acrylic Tac I think tech people and people that whether it's Google or Apple and you made a really good argument that they may appear left socially but they absolutely operate right when it comes to finance when it comes to their business I think that is true but I think that when you're dealing with the ability to discuss and you might say that your perspective is the one that you want to hear because you're a left-wing person and these are your beliefs but you're isolating the the whole other team from being a part of that conversation and maybe they have something you want to hear and maybe they don't have anything you want to hear but to not allow them to communicate you are alienating a giant chunk of the population and if someone gets to a prominent level where they're they're communicating a certain way and you just decide certain ways unacceptable and you kick them off you don't just take them off you also silence all the other people that are along or aligned with them because they have similar ideas and they don't want to speak out either when you when you ban James Woods you don't just ban James Woods you've been a lot of other people from saying something they might be furious about you know the Russia investigation whatever they want Express themselves and they they they they Panic they get scared they did worried that they're going to get that sensors the form of censorship and I think these companies I don't blame them because I don't think they had any idea what they were going to become and I think they're all adjusting along the way I think when Twitter was first cut 1/4 Twitter first came out remember that like you would write at David pakman is going to the movies you like you like Joe Rogan just had a great pizza that's what you did wasn't this thing where you got to express yourself and 240 whatever character is in we're in a different world now and I think different world needs some different examination about what the ability to communicate online is and this is an important Point does Alex Jones made some crazy video out after a conversation that I had with him yesterday where he was saying that I'm going to war against censorship in a war against YouTube That's I'm not doing any of those things I made this for the company as opposed to like a company just put my stuff up on their platform where there's apple or YouTube I don't like that YouTube censors things I don't like that they do that like those doctors in Bakersfield but I'm not at war with them and I were with anybody and I'm not okay I don't envy them their position I don't think it's smart to sensor practicing doctors when they have differing opinions I think we need to find out who's right I think the way you find out who's right as you get people were experts and they disagreed this Nobel laureates watch several videos that are talking about this lockdown and that it's not a good idea these people that believe in herd mentality vs. immunization and are vaccines and I don't know who's right and I would like them to all be able to discuss it equally and openly that said I don't envy Twitter I don't envy YouTube I don't envy any of these people the idea of trying to manage this in real time while it explodes and takes over the way human beings communicate over. Of a decade just like that it's so instantaneous and mistakes have been made and in my opinion when it comes to the way things are censored and the way that it's it's these mistakes particular on Twitter if our favor the left and they're they're not balanced still exist in some horrible things to people on the left say about people on the right and it's nothing it just gets washed away but when the people do it we're on the right about people on the left they get banned it's not fair and when things aren't Fair one side has a better argument are being censored and if there's some sort of conspiracy and it divides people even more it strengthens the hate instead of company instead of like that I think most people the vast majority 70 80% are reasonable people do you can have a conversation with him you were in front of them one-on-one when they don't feel like they're part of the conversation or when they speak their side their stuff gets deleted or removed or put into some you know it was some shadowban category it's infuriating for people it's not good for all of us community and I think that is the burden that these places like YouTube or or or Twitter date they have to shoulder this burden and I don't know how to do it I don't know I mean Republicans have one perspective there's many people like yourself that have the perspective like Lissa it's their company should not they be able to make their own rules I think they're too big I think they're too big for that now and I think that it sits in this position where it literally is a part of who we are as a human beings the ability to express ideas and communicated so critical right now and as we're evolving and as we're are we revolving our culture and our civilization discourse is so important it's it's it's it's a giant part of being a human being in 2020 I don't think it should be just flippantly removed from people so my personal view is very similar to yours in terms of you know sort of like a legal content and really very specific things my instinct is leave it up and let the the sort of let people evaluate it let people put publish counterpoints that that's my personal view now the conservative view on this is you know if you if this cake baker doesn't want to bake a cake because of who you want to marry you don't do anything to the bank or you just going you know the market will if there's a demand for those types of cakes for those types of weddings bakers will enter the market and that's it if you apply that here and we'll get to the differences in a second if you apply that here if the James Woods has want to say stuff and a whole bunch of people want to hear that stuff why don't they just go and make their platform and bring everybody over me to say why don't you make another Twitter will there be a thousand Twitter's it's obviously very difficult no one's ever been able to do it it's not something that's it it's your to talk about something takes it metal resources it's it's not that it's not that simple it's so you know where they secret cameras filming executive talking about how to censor conservative people little bit of it what would I do remember is from the Planned Parenthood are aware what they published was it was pretty dramatically dishonest from what I recall but I've not seen the one you're referring to specifically it's been so long that the details Escape me but I number that there'd I remember that incident I've not really seen anything recently that they don't ever you have deceptive you know the problem is even if in the future you don't you don't do that anymore so I can everyone is always going to remember that you did do something yes you did do something that wasn't straightforward cut-and-dry no emotion journalism just here are the facts Planned Parenthood it awarded $2000000 in lawsuit over Secret videos interested organization but I think that let's say we agree about something needs to be done once you're at a certain level you enter a new category and some kind of Regulation has to be done who does the regulation when you look at redistricting for example this has been like a multi-decade thing where it when Republicans are in power they draw the districts in a way that's favorable to them Democrats are in power they take the opportunity to redraw districts that are favorable to them you have these ideas of okay will have a commission with Democrats and Republicans and together they'll figure out how the districts could be drawn fairly how do you apply that at the lesson from that how do you apply it to does the Trump Administration decide what kind of content must be left up versus what can be removed but then that Administration gets replaced now the next Administration says here's Howe Twitter is supposed to operate like how do you do it it's a really good I really like Jack Dorsey as a person I really enjoy talking to him I think is a very thoughtful guy and in in discussing this with him both on the show and off the show you know they they don't really know exactly how to handle these things so it did did they don't really know what the perfect solution is and he's even proposed a wild west Twitter and then a Twitter that's under some sort of moderation and I don't know where they stand on right now but that was something that they were he was actively bringing up like what type of Twitter where anything goes you get a credit in the early days you could do whatever the f*** you wanted vs. what they what they have now but here's another example when a person get so big like Trump you can get away with you could do s*** on Twitter that there's no way you could do right like if you seen the recent thing where he's accusing Joe Scarborough of possibly being a part of a murderer or something like that I saw that please bring up some apparently totally I don't know the exact details the story but been investigated and nothing to do with it it was just somebody worked with and and Trump is he's putting out this thing just to try to Target Joe Scarborough get his fans to go nutty and f*** with him you know and that's a weird way of that. That's a right-wing guy who is literally the top right wing. Right so yeah right-wing bias doesn't seem reply totally we do negative ions when it when it comes to the president in the president when you get to a certain level like you could just do s*** like that like you could just threaten North Korea like you could say we have the best missiles will f*** you up I think I'm glad you fake your death and I know you're still alive and he tweeted that like whoa I'd like the justice system for the elites and then for other people to focus on Street crime instead of white collar crime I mean a lot of different is to be profitable and shareholders because if it is all the stuff we're talking about about how we would like to see it operate a sort of irrelevant because they now have this fiduciary responsibility to just make money and it's imperative that for Liberty and for the ability for people to have free speech everyone has to have access to this and so when you go to maybe it's like one of those things you go to jail for a horrible felony you lose your ability to vote maybe you go to jail for something you lose your ability to tweet you know I mean it could it be 300 billion I have no idea I wonder how much it is and how much they spending on these goddamn stimulus packages I wonder if they could probably buy it cheap right now to really makes money either weird situations where they worth something but I don't I don't know if it actually does I don't I don't think it's in the in the profitable area but I don't think it's I think it's made when we talked about this fairly recently yeah it's complicated you know some things make sense like Google make sense right these Google ads and make a shitload of Money YouTube make sense it's profitable it all makes sense Twitter's like where you at where is the money coming from like you it's so valuable but and it's such a useful tool but how does how do they make money I mean so it literally they're at their ads on Twitter as well invite boosted post from mode advertisement that I have no idea how much money they're making from that versus what is the value of the user base wasn't there a point recently where a very very conservative investor bought a giant chunk of Twitter and was thinking about kicking out Jack Dorsey was not something I was brought up really recently now I don't know about that. Jamie situation that's how it went down like a fairly recently someone just bought a controlling stake or large steak let man I just think is there anyone you would trust to regulate Twitter and YouTube and Facebook like like a public utility that's incredible I think something that has that kind of power when it comes to expression it's it's valuable for human beings and I would never want to take it away from the people that own it obviously but I just think as a concept that we should consider that what we have here with something like Twitter or even maybe there's a good argument for YouTube as well that what these these new abilities to ask yourself are there they're incredibly important terms of the process of our culture the process of going over ideas and involving those ideas there's no better way to do that than open communication there's no better open communication than Twitter and YouTube like in terms of regular people you can start a YouTube video right now on your phone I could just set the phone up here press record and start talking and then upload it and Bam my thoughts could be available to anybody and I think that's so valuable it's so it's so port in terms of our ability to go back and forth with ideas and we're changing those ideas like obviously the way we thought about life and 1960s very different than the way we think about life today and a lot of that comes from this course a lot of that comes from discussion and up the evolution of these ideas Jamie has something holistic I think there was a potential corporate takeover I couldn't agree more strongly with you about the importance of these platforms my entire business is built on that mean I don't know business if it weren't for this problem I think I think the difficulties are what it what are the standards that are applied and I also like I don't want to sound like one of these free-market right-wingers but what's the legal bait you would have to first establish a legal basis you have been established law that says once you have this number of users number of page views or whatever you now we're Bound by this new set of of laws and that is complex to least complex it's very complex and I don't have no idea how would one would even begin and how long the process of figuring out what the rules should be how long it would take before we all agreed on that but Anna and I think that would be another great argument for the ability to express yourself because informing these laws would want to hear all perspectives perspectives from people that have been harmed by social media and you know and Twitter mobs and s*** like that and what should be done about that and the same thing can be said about YouTube as well I think but one thing that no one can deny is how significant these these tools are whether it's Twitter or YouTuber you know any new one that comes out with it stick talk or whatever they're they're really powerful there's just something too damn that's unprecedented in the history of you know and we can't just apply the old rules to them just doesn't make sense I don't think it's good for us when I talk to conservative people about this there if you're not accustomed to it if you're not accustomed to feeling like you're censored and and you're angry you don't know what it's like until your round these people and then you see their frustration in their anger and their their Fury at Twitter for if you're doing that and 4% soaring voices that are for their perspectives instead of just letting the process take place like it's always has been it just in a different form the process of being able to talk through ideas one of the risks of this is that once you assert a right to a platform to exist on a platform that supersedes Twitter or YouTube's ability to say for whatever reason because they're a company that can have terms and conditions and they say we just don't want that they don't want Garden in content on YouTube I can't think of a legal reason why they can't say no gardening content I mean as long as they're not by virtue of banning gardening content in a Banning people on the basis of membership in some protected class or something like that right like a Gardener's were of a certain race you can make the case that by proxy by Banning Garden in content they're banning people of a certain right I don't know how you prevent that from then being applied elsewhere like what platforms with people have a right to in this gets to speakers who say I was censored because a certain School wouldn't have me to speak their you don't have a right to speak at any particular School schools can make decisions about what they want and what they don't want as long as you're not being discriminated against based on your identity is it not sort of the same thing with YouTube like what what is the legal basis for saying they can no longer make these decisions first of all a school is a single destination at the physical place right beside you know this is a conservative school we don't want people coming over here and talking about this or this is a very Progressive school we don't want to have someone from the KKK come here and tell us how all races are not equal that that's a different different thing when you're when you're doing something like YouTube the real question is is it just a business is it just a business owned by people and they have the right to do whatever they want or is it least I mean you're on YouTube you call the partner right they didn't refer to you as a partner David pakman is a YouTube Partner you know and in some ways you are right cuz you put a lot of content your huge you can put out a lot of content and that content is an integral part of they have a progressive news sort of Empire really when you really stop and look about in end homemade shows like yours you know like there's too many tell them that you could watch Kyle kulinski Jimmy Dore and all these folks are doing these shows basically from scratch right there's no large production company behind it or any of the things that so they got this whole empire of your part of it you're part of this whole news Empire and its many categories but what they are is not as simple as just a business they are a business they all are as well within all the executives all the people that YouTube as an entity is one of most powerful tools for expression the world's Evernote so if you have this incredibly powerful tool for expression at what point in time or when it when are you able to deny people to use of that thing and why you know it when what is freedom of expression if it doesn't apply to these new tools what is the first amendment if it doesn't apply to these new tools if someone can come say hey I know you're a doctor and a practicing physician but I'm 28 and I live in Palo Alto and I say f*** you because I believe the WHL and I don't believe in you and I'm just going to delete your video and it seems to me that I follow the rules that YouTube is set forth about you know if you don't agree with the WHL and you giving some sort of contrary coronavirus information delete and I don't I don't think that's wise I don't think that's wise I think it's a very very complicated issue that should be debated publicly and discussed publicly whether or not these people have the right to be heard and this is just one example that we keep bringing up with as many different kinds of things that fit along those lines you know when you just want to ban all conspiracy theories are quotes the problem with conspiracy theories his first of all the word as a pejorative was created to try to steer people away from the Kennedy assassination which is like one of the greatest conspiracies of all time some some people did that weather was Lee Harvey Oswald by himself highly doubt it I think there's probably other people involved I think was a conspiracy so call me I don't know enough about this I don't know about you but my point is when when that was created the really what other than writing something in print or yelling something in a Public Square the were in a lot of ways to express yourself now the most powerful way the world has ever known has come along to express yourself and that's social media that's YouTube and Twitter and what are those things and how much of responsibility do the people who own those things have to adhere to the fundamental ideas that got us to this Republic in the first place I think there's a real good argument that they're more powerful than simply just a company that they have this amazing ability to get information out and that this is Amina it should certainly be profitable I don't deny them their profitability I mean they've made an amazing thing that created something that we all benefit from this should make a shitload of money but I think we should really be careful about who gets to use this and who doesn't get to use this just because someone says something that you disagree with it get other people to also agree that doesn't mean they should be shut down if you don't agree with what they're saying if you don't like what they're saying you probably shouldn't view it or listen to it or read it you should probably find something else to do or examined why you don't like in this were thinking comes in is where critical thinking and discussion comes in and this is a huge part of managing a community a managing a civilization so the where the biggest parts of managing the civilization this kind of discourse is limited this is a huge part of managing a community a managing a civilization so the where the biggest parts of managing this civilization this kind of discourse is limited and it's limited and censored and people can arbitrarily decide to just remove you from it

can you get will get into the stuff I'm sure you're not just voting for the person you're voting for who are they likely to have working for them what is likely to happen in quartz what is likely to happen regulation wise and so of course you want to think about it is that a person is but you also want to think about who do they bring with them and for me that's a lot of how I see boating in November at this point concession we had to make if it was Tulsi gabbard or Bernie Sanders or Amy Klobuchar or Pete buttigieg or you don't go down the line there's a lot of very credible candidates that would have made like entry like maybe this person could be the next great president maybe this person could be a great leader but now we're in this position like oh God okay so listen we're voting for the cabinet like Biden is so whether or not he's having moments that are slated to cognitive decline which you could speculate or whether or not this is just his reaction to the most extreme amount of pressure he's ever faced in his life and that does happen with people we know people lockup I would imagine that a guy that's been in the spotlight as long as he has for so long probably would would be able to handle stuff but I think running for president is a whole different ballgame I think that everything gets turned up by 10 and I think it gets turned up in this society that we're experiencing today it gets turned up even more so because of social media like no president other than Trump as head really hard to deal with this kind of wave of social viral feedback online with Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and maybe a little bit but then head on and he's he's showing you what can come at you I think that when Biden is running through the steps to try to become president he's experiencing a wave of attention and scrutiny but he's never experienced before and that could also exacerbate what a my doctor here I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with his head on the Biden cognitive stuff that's wrong that I've seen their cognitive decline from fighting I'm not saying the Bible is the same as I don't really know him from you know I don't know him over long. I don't know it all personally but something's wrong the way with any of your friends are they close to eighty any of them no problems and it's it's very I don't think he's there where it without me know cuz he could still talk to him like if that was just a guy that you knew and he was like and he said something like we've all been endowed by you know the thing that one famous speeches to you wouldn't say all Jesus what's going on with rat you would say are you locked up did a brain fart in a mental lapse which I've had doing podcast all the time is it can happen but in that moment in front of those people to do that way why was running for president and wife had a few of those before dealing with anxiety to there's a probably a lot of s*** going on but I would be concerned yeah I mean listen so I guess I don't have any I don't my view is just based on actual professionals that I've talked to you in people that have been in a room with him cuz I I'm not a professional and I've not been in the room with Biden so Andrew Yang was on with Sam Harris recently I don't know if you saw and this topic came up and Andrew Yang basically said listen 8 years old if you compare a video of Biden debating Paul Ryan in 2012 divided in a month ago obviously it's different and to some degree. That's normal when someone 78 years old but beyond that so that's like one doesn't tell us anything definitively you know Neuroscience neurologist and mental health professionals who are very concerned about Trump like the oranges of an investigation the where he is he seems to sort of like lock up when his shoulders the whole bunch of stuff maybe maybe he has a verbal mistake that he makes and it coincides with the shoulder thing and then it's almost like there's a half-second gap and then someone hit the reset button and he'll get back on the teleprompter or whatever it's weird is like 10 or so examples get a search for one so we search for I think if you if you want to like search. Twitter.com and just searched in videos the way you can do and you put like Trump brain glitch I'm guessing that some of the peace come up but the gist of what I was getting to us some of these same neurologist in mental health books when I asked them privately about Biden and Sadie's are you seeing like the same type of thing they all say no so again I do they're hardcore Democrats I don't know for sure something doesn't look good right I agree totally assumed that absent any evidence is maybe unfair real problem it's absolutely for real I'm still voting for him over Trump right I mean like so I think last time we talked you mentioned you were pro-choice do I remember that right would love to overturn Roe v Wade I mean there's not even a chance said that he is that he's pro-life and that he would pick someone that would for you is just by virtue picking conservative there's that there it's it's actually it's there's two parts to it one is Donald Trump with pro-choice almost his entire life or life when he was I think 68 because he met a kid he liked and he imagined if that kid wasn't warned 68 after being pro-life is whole life he said he would pick justices that were recommended to him by I forget which conservative think you're only going to get you know protocol the pro-life justices from these groups on the other hand Joe Biden will absolutely pick a pro-choice justice so if I was wrong choice like you are how do I justify voting for the guy who's going to replace potentially Ruth Bader Ginsburg with someone who would want Ro be overturned like I couldn't do it in good conscience that's that's a good point but Imma get into it but Jamie just pull up this video of trump and I'm going to get a watch him to have this weird twitch for the first time. Hit me with a Jamie okay so he's talking I'm watching it is that it made Trump neurologically malfunctions with a full spasm that's silly baby so real problems with him annunciating words and you know there was speculation like was he falling for these sick was it was he on a sedative was it was something something going wrong almost seem like his tongue wasn't working correctly write with a paralyzed tongue matches mine but I think I really like this stuff we're not probably ever going to really get an answer to this and I don't know that it's imperative to know the answers for me to know who it is I'm going to vote for I guess it's the point I'm trying to make perspectives matches mine but I think I really want from me it's like this stuff we're not probably ever going to really get an answer to this and I don't know that it's imperative to know the answers for me to know who it is I'm going to vote for I guess it's the point I'm trying to make

really complicated right it's like who should be able to decide when you can or can't go back to work it's not it's not straightforward it's not cut-and-dry because if you say the people should be allowed to make their own decision you run into the very real possibility that especially if you have to go to work at that factory and you can't not work and you do get sick and you do go home and do spread your family a loved one to die that's that's real on the other hand the government does really seem to have any sort of straightforward plan as to how people can economically bounce back from this I mean it was one of the weirdest quotes I think it was trump it said this was talking about businesses and restaurants that they'll be open maybe not with the same owners but they'll be open again did you see that quote no I don't I don't I didn't see that but it's like what is that really me does that just mean like a different business will be created just being pragmatic and maybe cold whoever made that quote that is probably how it's going to go down is it Trump says restaurant to make comeback just maybe with new owners yet she said I mean that don't that does not make me feel good bad if I'm a restaurant owner you know when there's a few restaurants that I'm always shouting out on the podcast that are owned by friends of mine that these businesses are hurting so bad they went like that 2 no customers or a very small percentage of customers who were to take out when they were you know they had dining every night and they have these bills and they had their business set up in a way that you do you have to make x amount of money in order to stay open and they were successful and they're doing well in one of the toughest businesses to be successful in and then all sudden the rug gets pulled out so what's the solution should people just be able to go to restaurants and everybody works there was a waiter or cook or they just hit maybe get sick and then more people die but that doesn't sound good to anybody either what is the solution I don't know but I don't think that in our particular case I don't think our governor has the answers Moana thinks he's been criticized for is he's decided to open up production for television and film but not churches you know there's another thing they've done it's really not so my friend Adam Curry turn me onto they closed Alcoholics Anonymous meetings but liquor stores were in essential business that is yeah thinking this is where they put into place these list of what's approved and not approved and I don't I just don't think that it's in the first of all I think the information constantly changing and I think that they're they're going office hold information they haven't made adjustments and then on top of that I don't think they're qualified to I don't think they're qualified a president like one person is involved in the economy and environment at least I don't think won Governor can really be smart enough to know a what kind of impact going to have economically to close all these businesses down and be which ones get to open up and what is essential and why and it's just it's very frustrating for all involved in it highlights one of the reasons why you know the way we do government is you know it's not perfect it's it's not it's definitely better than a lot of ways the lot of places in the world that still has lot of holes in it constantly changing messages what is essential in one state versus in another state the issue of churches is a big one I mean on the other hand in Massachusetts churches were included in the first phase of reopening and a lot of Public Health officials say that doesn't make any sense and the suspicion is but it's there because of a lot of pressure and that it probably should have been in Phase 2 or maybe even phase 3 but I think it's hard to really talk the state-by-state without acknowledging the disastrous response from the federal government and I don't know where you stand strong men that are being put in place to argue that Trump handled it beautifully use his term but I think if you start with the idea of the coordinated Federal response we could have had a lot of these other issues that we're having now just wouldn't be issues and I'm glad to get into it more if if if you want I don't know if you've talked about what could be really interesting to talk about this because what do you think they could have done differently look what do you think the government should have done differently the federal government got it so he has been a lot of two sides that are arguing people who just vaguely say Trump bailed he didn't do enough and he was slow without like really giving specifics which I will give and then on the other hand you got a lot of people who are just reflexively defending hey he shut down travel I'm tryna really early and he took it seriously and we've done the most tests which is a whole other Fiasco a talking point that we can get into but for the most part I think that the critiques and the praise is just not tied to real dates so in January we had our first case January 20th I think it was and South Korea had their first case January 20th we often skip over February so a lot of people will defend Trump by saying you're going to shut down a country when you got one case and I totally agree you're not going to shut down a country over one case at that point to say shut it all down but just to like pick a date and then we can work around it March 5 okay March 5th I had 4000 cases so this is this is March 5 so we already had proof that it'll travel really far and it'll get bad far from China and we had 221 cases on March 5 it would be very reasonable on March 5th for Trump to say this is a problem FDR like delivery is hard to imagine from doing that but we've got to work together this is going to be difficult we're going to do a 30-day I need all 50 governor help me on this let's do 30 days of stay-at-home it probably would have been on April 5th have had to ask for another 30 so we would have done like 60 days March 5 to May five and where would we be right now we being really really good shape so it's really easy to just say dude you're not going to shut down a country with five cases I agree but we had the information on March 5th March 10th March we did a real shutdown we'd be in such good shape first of all I think that the support for shutdown. Early would been almost zero I think you would have a really hard time convincing people that this was going to be that big of a deal and that there wouldn't be something they could do to stop having a lot of this is Monday morning quarterbacking right we're looking at what happened factually like we're looking at it in the past this is when we're there was this amount of cases when it was happening live there was a lot of confusion first of all the World Health Organization is when is January was saying that according to China this is what they wrote Our twitter-tweet it's not it doesn't get transmitted from person to person to this in January right in March they were saying you don't need a mask this is there's been a lot of confusion it's not like there was like real straightforward clear advice it's hard for us it's so easy for us to sit back here we are in late May and say oh he should have done this and if he'd done that everything would have been great this word for shutting down the whole country for 30 days at the beginning of March was Zero I don't think anybody would have never guessed that if we if we write any retrospective analysis office Monday morning quarterbacking its then it's not even worth discussing right because we could just say throw it out it's Monday Morning Quarterback we could have shut everything down boy that is a set that is such a hard self remember when Cuomo was saying that they're not going to shut down New York it would be too hard to shut down New York DeBlasio I mean that they're they're not you know they're Democrats and Trump the Republican I don't care about that I mean certainly there there's no doubt that Cuomo and de Blasio are deserving of some blame here as well and one other example there was a. We have to look at code tracking. Org to get the exact numbers but there was a. In either late March or early April where South Korea remember South Korea had their first case the same day we did we've been out within like a 6 or 8 hours it might have been January 19-20 or vice versa but there was a point in late March or early April where is South Korea had as many positive tests in a day as we did test total so this is really important to understand that the discrepancy here 800 positive cases and so the the the slow testing response is a disaster and the proof is no we can say it's Monday morning quarterbacking but South Korea got it right Taiwan got it right in terms of places in Europe Greece did really well New Zealand did really well so we may be looking at it retrospectively but there were examples of countries that were on the ball with testing it made a huge different morning quarterbacking but South Korea got it right I want got it right in terms of places in Europe Greece did really well New Zealand did really well so we may be looking at it retrospectively but there were examples of countries that were on the ball with testing and it made a huge difference

there's a thing that keeps getting repeated and it's that we only have 60 more seasons left and then our topsoil is the thing that gets repeated it almost as if there's no solution to this that because we have to feed so many people we're doomed and what you're saying is no we just can't do it this way cuz this way is unsustainable it's unnatural to begin with that's exactly right so we so we have to fundamentally change we have to we have to we have to use are carbon are biomass strategically which includes food scraps by the way you use everything for you can't just throw stuff away that's supposed to be decomposed I mean the fact that landfills get get green environmental awards for poking methane methane tubes in the landfill and running running the the excavation equipment on the methane from the decomposing material in a landfill it's it's it's just what we need to do is hook up with we need hookups we need to wear the waste streams like they move right into the the use of streams and you have circles not linear not linear thinking and I mean just another one for example is is ponds realized that before the Europeans came to North America America was 8% water today were less than 1% I mean I mean surface area think about the United States being 80% water intake 8% 8% in Utah Nevada New Mexico all right we're all that water come from beavers massive massive Beaver populations I mean there were 200 million beavers and we now no archaeological digging up skeletons some of them were as big as a Volkswagen Car really these were big big the megafauna the megafauna is incredible it's the same as the Wombats in Australia you know now these wombats are like you know 80lb a little little wombats will they know by digging up skeletons they used to have 9-foot wombats in Australia the fact is that the planet used to have more animal weight on it than it does today with all the animals all the factory farms and all the people so if it's not people and animals that are messing up the planet it it's it's our it's the human management of the ecosystem it's messing up the abundance here is is through the roof so so imagine imagine if if we end this way we doing on our farm is every time we get a few extra dollars we build another Pawn now we're not beavers but but we have you know we have excavation equipment that we can go in and build ponds so that when we have a flood and and everything is flooding we're actually trapping a lot of that not all of it but trapping a lot of it up on High Ground permaculture style that we can dispense for irrigation and a dry time so that we never pump from an aquifer that's the comment an aquifer you're depleting the common but if you're if you're reducing flooding and using that in a drought to keep vegetation growing when they're so much sunlight then you're actually increasing the comments and we believe very strongly that as a result of our farming we should not be depleting the commons we should be increasing the, that's a result there should be more soil more water more breathable air more no more Wildlife more pollinators more there's also been a false name tributes most of our greenhouse gases are a significant number of significant percentage of our greenhouse gases coming from cows and they end Cal Agriculture and one of the things that they found through using satellite imaging and when they're trying to detect methane they're finding its landfills that these landfills are a huge right huge problem in terms of greenhouse gases that this the the total wrong way approaching at the way you were saying during this biological material in the ground instead of using it as compost is actually not just counterproductive but it's actually detrimental yes that's a wrong way to do it because it doesn't serve the soil it actually f**** up the air and it's not a zero it's a it's a if all the biomass that we have what's the word non-leveraged or or thrown away if all the biomass we thrown away in the last you know hundred years if it had instead been leveraged for soil building feeding chickens out today we would not have all that methane and today we would have soils that were that would be Richard we'd have you know better earthworm populations that we'd have a tremendous amount of of soil maintain soil abundant fertility and the beautiful thing is that this this is not that difficult to bring back I've been preaching this message you know all my life and it's exciting to now suddenly have people stepping back and realize wow you know we just kind of put a pause and there are now dolphins in Venice against theirs in Shanghai you can see across the street you know I mean amazing pictures amazing pictures so so when people say let's get back to normal look I don't want I don't want the the whatever the tragedy that we're having but I also don't want to go back normal cuz normal was his foot on Nature's saying it we're going to so so that's where you start saying we know what what does the future look what could have future look like and that's where we start talking about decentralization integration integrating our all of our streams and large-scale change but everybody has a job the new thing I mean my thing about the carbon economy course you know where they're in that hardwood region of Virginia you know near the Blue Ridge Parkway Shenandoah National Park all that stuff and the end of the federal forests are atrocious I mean dead trees the fuel build up his fuel build-up is just ridiculous it be cool if if mommy or daddy could come home and their six-year-old says you know what did you do today and Mommy and Daddy are able to say well we we stewarded you know five acres up on Jack mountain and and kept it from having a fuel load to burn and took that biomass so that a farmer could feed his earthworms so there be soil for your future there will be abundance and soil for your future I mean what an affirming sacred righteous Alicia that would be and end it with affirm people who want to work outside and have calluses and blisters on their hands in a week been a week spent couple Generations marginalizing what we called Blue Collar people and and one of the big issues right now as we go to an AI techno future is what do we do with people that like to work outside with their hands and and sweat the Michael Rowe you know that the Dirty Jobs I'm suggesting that a carbon economy is one of many so many Pathways to actually envisioning a future where thousands and thousands of people would be employed in healing Ministries so that we'd be caressing our Nest so many times the the idea in agriculture he is that that nature is a naturist a reluctant partner that we've got a we got to get him in our wrestling whole week Dominate and Conquistador actually nature is a benevolent lover that just wants to be caressed and we haven't and we haven't put attention on caressing in the right places for a long time Dominate and complete the door going to make you you know we're going to Bush when actually nature is a benevolent lover that just wants to be caressed and we haven't and we haven't put attention on caressing in the right places for a long time

so one of the things that we're key on because our fertility program is carbon and that's what feeds the soil carbon right not 10-10-10 chemical fertilizer carbon and so alarm use fertilizers at all no no we don't we don't we have a big industrial chipper you love this machine I miss the ultimate you know boy toy 120 horsepower diesel engine that can that can chip 19in you can take a 40-foot tree and just stuck it in there and it just and and we integrate the carbon from before so we cut jump trees dead trees crooked trees week trees and thin the forest and that enables the good trees the healthy trees to grow more vigorously better reduces fire potential because you're younger thinning it out taking all the dead stuff and that then becomes are carbon base for betting the animals for you know and for all the compost in that we do we do you know mountains and mountains of compost where I'm going with this is when we talked about costs right now how much is our country spending fighting wildfires and how much are we losing fighting all these where in California right I mean look at the devastation at fires have caused imagine imagine if those if we had thousands of people with chippers sitting the forest turn them into almost Park like like they were before the Europeans came the Native Americans kept them going with you with fire but there were there was megafauna here megafauna and so we graze through we convert a lot of it into you know silvopasture widely spaced trees that are growing unimpeded with grazing animals underneath so that there's no fire damage is no build-up of fuel and suddenly we're producing our own food and we're eliminating the danger of wildfire with technology called chainsaws and chippers and that carbon becomes the fertility for The Vineyards and the and the the agricultural lands it feeds the soil so now we have earthworms instead of hard soil we don't have erosion or organic matter is up on our farm using these principles we've gone in we've gone from 1% organic matter to over 8% organic matter in the soil and every 1% holds another 20,000 gallons of water per acre low so so if we do if we are 60 years of being there in the show is polyface we have gone from 1% to 8/8 settlers to say that seven klicks 7 * 20 is 140000 gallons of water per acre now that we can hold that we couldn't hold before and it's because of the grazing the perennials and the composting that's building up the organic matter in the soil that can be done in California when you start talking about holding water it's not just about how much rainfall are we getting its how much are we actually holding him in the spine how to reduce your flooding and run off and things like that so it sounds like you are method could keep from the situation they find with some Farms of the road and topsoil with a hike to Confluence element right but how would you how do you grow enough corn like if you want to have like those monocrop agricultural fields we see hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of acres of corn just corn or just soy beans or just Alfalfa whatever it is like if you want to do those monocrop things you how are you to read fertilize the soil in the same manner with that you don't have to scale you don't have them you don't have those tomorrow to 30% goes to goes to alcohol for fuel that takes more energy than the than the fuel we get so after we don't need that ethanol is a byproduct of what we used to think that we needed ethanol exact talk when I run out of gas right right that's not that's not necessary okay since you fracking is to feed to to feed cattle so another huge percentage like 20% goes to feed cattle and then another huge percent goes to Hogs and chickens of course but they're one of the problems with the Hogs and chickens is that they are not integrated with the food system so right now right now 50% almost 50% but it's arguable you-know-who somewhere between 40 and 50% of human edible food on the planet is never eaten by a human it's spoiled to throw it away and 75% of everything that goes into landfills is biodegradable so when you start matching up the weight that the waste streams in the Lost losses in our food system and our waste streams what happens is very quickly you start seeing that it's the aggregated it's this if this single species single-crop single segregated notion where it where it's not related it's not symbiotic it's not synergistic that actually creates the problem City and Belgium this was this was articulated in cat form and wonderful book the title is City Chicks and she talked to some Urban chickens in Belgium offered three chickens per household by The Wanted a chicken and they had two thousand families racer hands does yep we'll take three chickens they got 6,000 chickens distribute them through this to the city and in the first month it dropped a hundred tons of food waste to the landfill and so not only did they eliminate the landfill waste all these people now suddenly had chickens and Pat done all the math on this and shows that if one in three household had enough is eat your kitchen scraps there would not be a there would not be an egg industry in the United States it would be completely on non-essential really so that's the power of integration That's The Power of of of proximate of actual putting stuff clothes you know so they wouldn't have an egg so then the chickens don't need the corn from the cornfields so the fields can be turned back into Prairie defeat herbivores which now would be cows not bison but that's alright that's her herbivore of of value and so now you're at perennials instead of annuals and perennials instead of annuals perennials put energy in the soil annuals extract energy from the soil so now suddenly you're producing instead of producing an annual fertilized with petroleum to feed beef for somebody else instead you're not growing the corn you don't need the tractor you don't need the petroleum the cows fertilize at themselves and The Perennial buildasoil like it did with the bison and you have the beef instead of coming out of feedlot it's coming off like the Bison did and suddenly You're Building soil to losing soil and your production doesn't change 1iota it doesn't take any more land to produce the beef with what I've described then what it does with corn don't take any more land okay so you're you're you're essentially saying that they have to convert to not just growing corn that's right they're going to have to do a different kind of farm that kind of monocrop mono good thing is is a complete I mean we we started the interview talking about standing on nature on her neck you know that is a quintessential example of standing on Nature's neck and the reason our farm was so when we came to it was because we're we're in Virginia Shenandoah Valley and you know that was the breadbasket of the Confederacy during the Civil War if you know your history and and essentially the war was finally won when when they burned all the crops in the Shenandoah Valley and and and during that time the valley lost somewhere between 3 and 5 ft of soil during that that time. So the soils are worn out and then we got the westward expansion and I'll move to Ohio and Indiana and then finally The Dakotas and you know kept heading west so this this head West Head West young man had West because our agriculture destroyed the soils and if we don't if we don't start using our agriculture to build soils we have a lot more to worry about than covid-19 deal a lot more to worry about if we don't figure out a way to produce food abundantly and grow soil while we're doing it the pandemic is going to be the least of our concerns we have a lot more to worry about than covid-19 deal a lot more to worry about if we don't figure out a way to produce food abundantly and grow soil while we're doing it the pandemic is going to be the least of our concerns

stress plays a big factor with people's immune systems all the time with people are stressed out they always get sick it's real real common it just makes sense and I think this kind of fear particular I mean the way I was experiencing it when the when the lockdown was first ordered in everyone's at the supermarket known was wearing masks yet but everyone stockpiling food and you know we were nervous we're real nervous cuz we didn't know what this is going to be like and we were all so I was nervous particular because I feel like the information we're get China was not correct and I was worried that when you see those videos of them spraying disinfectant on houses and buildings so maybe this is way worse than we think it is and it's going to hit America really hard cuz we've been lied to by the Chinese it was a lot of fear so never lying in bed at night and like catching my breath let me have it now it was going to get worse as a lot of that was a lot of that I didn't sleep real good at all for maybe the first few days of lockdown till I sort of calm down and realized I'm not going anywhere I can't get it you know that I got tested and like okay well this is nice to know that I don't have it currently like maybe if I just keep doing what I'm doing I won't get it but all this I'm totally with you and I think that that brings up the issue of how our society now views death I read an interesting article just in the last couple of days about how as we have left it used to be when we were kids we will use the term somebody drop dead member that you know that they just dropped we don't say they drop dead we say apparently medicine failed them or the hospital it's like it's like instead of just people yeah we do drop dead instead every death of some sort of a failure of our techno sophisticated cryogenic you know system that's supposed to keep everybody beautiful and perfect forever perfect forever the fact is you and I think that's an advantage of on the farm where we are I mean we we see death every day I mean we know that things and and in fact in fact death makes room I'm in a compost pile is is death in life I mean it's it's if you got microbes eating stuff that was living and then and then that makes new life and course my family knows it that when I go they're supposed to put me in a cup do you know dude really that legal though don't they have to cremate you put me in the ground or something but that's my joke how to get was a special-use permit for a family graveyard so we we've got we got 10 we got permission for 10 spots so it was really good for a couple they don't have to use formaldehyde but nothing is is you but anybody write your bones I guess about the bones will stay for a good while we know the bones last a long time but my my thing is that look I don't want I don't want a bunch of people to die but but the fact is that death is is transformative and I don't get all too mystical and spiritual but whatever your spiritual tradition is beegie Adair Christian ethics so I think there is an afterlife but but but even even if even if there's nothing even if you say well I'm dead and there's no spirit and I'm gone even so that makes room for tomorrow's babies it makes room for new ideas new things I mean you can't you can't have you can't have life without the regenerative regenerative capacity of death and end the foundation of ecology is Life Death decomposition regeneration life regeneration might be look like something else okay but but that's that's that's our digestion and when we get sterilized and and and move away from that I think we I think we lose the beauty of the transformative capacity of that part of life yeah I think it speaks what you were talking about earlier that they look at dad has some sort of a failure instead of just a part of the natural cycle

has anybody ever come to you and said hey our community is kind of screwed up we don't have a good food source here would you help us establish something like this yeah I've been have you designed these things for folks not I mean not for a whole Community like this sounds like they'll be a great thing though it be great I've always had this that it would be great if you had like the neighborhood had like one large plot of land and everyone in the neighborhood lived off that plot of land sure that it like have a little mini Central Park and every neighborhood right right you're talkin my language I mean the idea of of urban agriculture run-down parts of the city that have vacant lots and there's there's a lot of productive capacity in these places I was one of the interesting ones I was almost in St Louis and these three young couples had come together and they had they had purchased an old it was an old crack house that the city bulldozed so there's this vacant lot it was no half an acre it wasn't very big half an acre and these three couples date they got apartments nearby like within you know two minutes walk and it was in a pretty run-down areas of the city rundown neighborhood and they just start farming in this in this half acre and told all the neighbors brings you food scraps they got some chickens start making compost they put up a little greenhouse and put up a kitchen and very very simple poor boy bootstrap you know and they quickly became a whole Community whatever place for kids to come because kids were mesmerized by the chickens they had a worm bed the plants growing they cook stuff and I was there you know I was there with him for a couple of hours in here come here or come kids down the sidewalk you'll pull in wagon with food scraps in it and and they're feeding the worm beds and it's fantastic they were feeding like you know Thirty families out of this old crack house foundation as a gift so how much of St Louis could be produced this way they said if you take out the dairy and the beef have the big the big Mega stuff St Louis could feed its entire city within the city limits this way it's true in Baltimore it might not be true in LA but the but here's the thing we don't have to solve every single person problem to start solving some and our promise X I start down this path and somebody starts throwing at me the most extreme situation and you know what I don't have all the answers for the most extreme situation you know the the single mom of four minority and a food desert in whatever okay I don't have the answer to every single situation but I'm looking at Suburbia I'm looking at at incredible things that people are doing an opportunities and if we do did what we know I ran into a lady in Edmonton Alberta and she was single lady living in a 5th floor condominium just wanted to one of the farm in a worse way she had no money no land nothing and she just had this Epiphany one day she said I know I have one friend has a backyard who is this from George said dumb would you mind if I grew up like a 10-foot by 10-foot Garden in your back I just want to grow something friend said sure shorter Garden the ladies neighbor saw the garden and she said do you think your friend will put a garden in my backyard and after the initial conversation with her friend she was farming 18 backyard had a part-time employee was a full-time farmer hurt her Oliver tools were on the side of a bicycle she bicycle from spot to spot to spot with all of her tools and her she started a business called on borrowed ground and growing food so the thing is is their creativity is her opportunity it's up the Wazoo if we would become as interested in this we are the latest dysfunction in the Kardashians or or you know though we don't have money for it if if there's one really positive thing to come out of this pandemic I hope that it's a restructuring of what's valuable in life and if we can if we can even grab up a 30% bump in that value a restructuring of what's valuable in life and if we can if we can even grab up a 30% bump in that value trajectory it will have been the best thing that ever happened to that's a large bump

a real parallel is when you were talking about that these large-scale meat processing plants a perfect petri dish for viruses to grow so are factory farms with so are these Farms where your stuff in pigs next to each other you doing all this unnatural stuff right it's unnatural for people to be stuffed into a warehouse right next to each other shoulder shoulder working all day it's unnatural for them to be stuffed in these homes shoulder-to-shoulder bad food and and all the things that you would need to keep your body healthy and trunk the same can be said about these factory farm such situations one thing that I find so attractive about the way you run your farm is that there's no weirdness and watching these animals during the day they they seem like animals just doing normal stuff if you see a chicken wandering around just packing at the grass looks normal see a chicken in the cage getting fed out of a little cup or something until it looks all kinds of f***** up right it doesn't feel right now we'd have the phrase respecting the pinkness of the pig in the chicken is of the chicken and we know that these diseases are all coming from these places I mean there's a ton of agricultural diseases you know that are based from these Factory on situations where these animals live in these really horrific conditions and then the bacteria jump and look I made their there they're eight look if you ate in your toilet every day would you like to eat your toilet everyday there fecal particulate matter which is putting lesions in their tender respiratory membranes making making a lesions there and so when you have those kinds of conditions and they're not getting exercise or not getting fresh air and so the salad or not getting any Vitamin D from the sun shine and so what happens is you get an extreme concentrated host host facility for pathogenicity that's what happened you got a very concentrated host facility cuz there's always a host there close to each other the pathogen doesn't have to say wow I wonder if I can make it that you know that half-mile over to another know they're always right there and so you're right it it's like it's like an incubator and so if we wanted to sit down if we want to sit down and say looks like we had a James Bond conspiracist you know and said we're going to form a committee and and make a pathogen friendly Farm James Bond Nemesis right and so we form a committee say how can we make a pathogen friendly Farm well we would have only one species we crowded up we take out the oxygen the the fresh air of the sunshine would give it we give it a minimal a minimalistic diet what I've just described is modern efficient industrial factory farming you couldn't design a better system for for conductivity of pathogen essity now here's the big question is it possible to feed all of Los Angeles using your methods can you can you feed big urban areas of methods absolutely so so so two things to realize is the the body in the food system right now the reason the supermarket is low on meat is not because there are animals in the field it's because of the prop the processing is the but it's not the trucking it's not the production it's not even though it's not even the store shelf it's it's the processing so it's the processing that the bottleneck and so so so my vision is that so we can get the two questions for the production production solutely if we if we spread out the production it if we'd if we did for example you know if we took all the confinement chicken houses and put those chickens on pasture no problem. It doesn't take any more land to grow the feed for a chicken on pasture than it does in a confinement house don't you get a lot more lost though do the Raptors and things on those lines protective shelters that removing everyday across the pasture well yeah you can get losses from from rappers but we use guard geese for their guard dogs guard llamas there's all sorts of guard animals there's there's really cool I understand there's a lot of research being done to jam the radar of you know Eagles and stuff there I mean really oh yeah oh yeah when you go it's just not just their Visions insanely good right and so for example I know one guy that's it it's not it's not ready to sell yet but he claims to have had great success putting reflective coat can bottoms on like a traffic cone hanging it out with his chickens and that displays the raise all out and messes up the eyesight of the of the Eagles and the Hawks they they can't zero in in fact this was exactly one of the defensive measures the US Navy used and still uses for incoming missiles that they they they have a can of that blows out pieces of aluminum foil basically and it like a graffiti graffiti out of the air and it jams the you know the the holding devices of a of a missile the same way what I'm getting at is that they're there are we don't lose very much we protect them greatly there a lot of things that you can do to you note to mitigate that kind of pressure but but the fact is the industry loses tons of bird 2 in a flood in a heatwave in a whatever you know and and the idea that these birds in this big confinement house are actually protected from malady this is simply not discipline. Gear in there going to be much more of an we're going to get sick absolutely now one of the things that it would require is many more people on farms so you know I thought of about obviously as unemployment has skyrocketed through this right now sitting here it's hard for us to imagine what it'll take to bring you know to fill football stadiums again to Caribbean cruises to fill theaters music venues you know whatever boxing matches it's hard to conceive what it'll take people are so terrified it's hard to appreciate how much of this is going to come back to hospitality industry and all that so what's going to happen so so we're going to do and I would suggest that one of the things that that people can do is that we can have a lot of these smaller plants and we have way more people actually growing food participating in food production personally is food going to be more expensive maybe so but you get to be healthy and we have a healthy planet and what's that worth and how much more do you think it would cost for it mean if you just give a rough percentage if you're thinking about food production right now with the current situation there's a lot of automation right lol these factory farms they don't require too many people to be working there sure you would require much more people get beat up to manage these animals you have to do it sort of the ones the way that you would be involved in a large scale farm. I don't have a number there but I can tell you that that prices would go food prices might go up to what they were 30 years ago and it also would it be fair to say that food prices might go to where they should be like a cheeseburger really shouldn't be 99 Cents no no absolutely very friendly with the argument of the externalize cost they don't they don't get captured what's what's the cost of right now 50% of the cases of diarrhea in the US are caused by food-borne you know what bacteria or what's up what's a case of diarrhea worth they have if we start running if we have hundreds of square miles that don't grow anymore toxic from the runoff from the Mississippi from chemical farming so there's there's a lot he's externalize cost and not only that but if this actually became normal the new way the new Orthodoxy there would be definitely economies of scale that we don't have right now I'll just give you one example that probably nobody would think of so we play we pay workman's compensation so how do you the exposure level the risk factor of a poultry worker I mean think about if if you have a Tyson chicken farm and you higher up an employee to be in the chicken-house think about his workman's comp risk particulate all day long that he's breathing you've got augers chains feed bins electrical connection dust I mean it's it's a v it's a high-risk situation for us a poultry worker goes out in the field and move some move some chickens and I feel there's no fecal particulate there's no dust there's no you know there's no auger there's no spinning fans so part of the cost the reason that are chicken is more expensive in the store is not only externalize costs but it is it is unrecognized unrecognized savings that we offer that can't be captured in a square peg in a round hole for you health for the food how much is that worth right that's interesting that we're not really taking secondary concert come about from doing it the wrong way yeah yeah we're not we're not I mean there's there's a lot of those much of much of our increased cost has nothing to do with actual production cost it's it's the non scalable regulatory overheads is why we don't have more Community small-scale Avatar the country is not because they're not a demand for them it's because the the the paperwork the house of plants hazardous analysis critical control Point plants in the paperwork to be able to launch a business like this require the are so high that the the both time and money are so high that it's very difficult to launch a small business yeah cuz you can't spread the overhead of capitalization / is there a solution of solutions certainly one one that's being Champion right now by Congressman Thomas Massie called the prime act he's had it in for 5 years and amazingly it's kind of just floundered for 5 years all of a sudden the last two months he's got 18 new co-sponsors because of this and what the prime act would do it would allow it would allow a uninspected custom processed meat in state to be sold by the piece that's not legal right now right now the only way that you can sell a T-bone if you want to buy a T-bone steak for the only way for you to get it is for me to go to a federal inspector slaughterhouse get the animal processed package under inspection and put in for you custom houses are do you want to buy a half a beef 1/4 beef alright and goes in with your name on that quarter and their custom processing it for me yeah then then I can buy it and what what Congressman Massie is saying with the prime Act is why should we discriminate and only allow people to tap into the lower-cost and lower lower overheads of the custom processing facility to only those people who can afford to buy a quarter of beef at a time that's very poverty discriminatory let's open that up so that people can buy it by the piece we're not going to ship it Interstate we're not going to sell it at Walmart okay there's but if you and I as neighbors want to do business together as and I'm using powerful phrasing here as consenting adults if we want to exercise freedom of Joy toys and participate in a consensual relation Commerce why should that be a bureaucrats business between you know between two consenting neighbors to make sure that people are using the proper sanitation methods making sure that the animals are healthy making sure that all these things are in place so that unscrupulous characters don't take advantage of the system and then screw over the consumer gets sick like this is like best case scenario for the regulation right that it's there to protect us that's that's the that's the Assumption yes and I would simply ask at some point when you have a very close transparent relationship one on what you don't you don't have your truckers and warehouses in big slaughterhouses and supermarkets in between us there is there is a lot of protection in that relational transaction that beat all the paperwork you can amass on the industrial scale we we recognize scale in a lot of things in life for example in Virginia where I'm from if you want to open a if you want to do daycare let's say you want to do a work-at-home deal you know you want to do a side gig and and and keep children you can keep up 3 in your home without subjecting yourself to the licensing and compliance of daycare regulations because they know if all you're going to do is keep 3 in your home those parents are going to have a close relationship with them it's this is not this is not a daycare center the same thing as true as Elder Care my wife's grandmother spent her last year in a lady's home who is allowed to keep three people as elder care she was an RN she wanted to not have to go to the hospital and started to side gig in her home she cook for them she took care of them three of them in her home cuz this very state-by-state it does very state-by-state I'm just giving you an example of where where where where where is reasonable to appreciate that a different relationship at scale can create its own safety in that particular thing can you keep a hundred in your home without a no but three if you're only going to keep three you probably going to see them you're probably going to have a direct relationship with each of their of their caregivers there you know their people that are signing off for them so different relationship and so all I would say is that from the safety issue that there needs to be some place a point at which we can to do business with each other without a bureaucrat involved has if you wanted to slaughter cow and then you wanted to give some of the meat away to your neighbor would you have to bring it to some sort of her fertility perfectly legal a perfectly legal so this is not as if it were all about safety you wouldn't be able to do that so the important thing to realize is that the the prohibition here is not Honda in fact our neighbor can even buy it legally a really I just can't sell it so the prohibition is only almond what if you can't sell it how they're going to buy it black market so if if if if I if I if I did this under-the-radar I butcher a chicken in my backyard and they were comes over and buys it from me okay it's legal for him is legal for him to buy it hazardous a controlled substance a hazardous substance the prohibition is both on seller and buyer and I don't want to go down that rabbit-hole either of I'm a pretty libertarian you know drug let it all go but but but without regard to that. The prohibitions are equal on each even possession if you want to if you want to have a ton of cocaine in your house even if over there in a corner on a pallet. I've got a ton of cocaine hear what it what's wrong with that you can't have that all right but when it comes to food products the prohibitions are only on one side and they don't include if you give it away so if it was really dangerous you shouldn't be able to buy it you shouldn't be able to possess it and you shouldn't be able to give it away I see what you're saying kind of but the difference is 4 Isabel cocaine is illegal beats not illegal second of all it's like you're trying to be ideas you're trying to protect the consumer right and I think that they have exceptions for these small situations where you're the farmer in this maybe this guy's growing tomatoes and you trade him some filet mignon for some tomatoes and have a good deal there that makes sense that they I think it's more reasonable play step back and let that happen but it is odd that they can buy unregulated beef but you can't sell unregulated beef so it's like what if I bought it is it regulated know all right don't even know who was the criminal selling you the beef the buyer is the customer is not but the same thing is true I mean that the important to Chapel at wildlife and and you can shoot a deer and your about temperature you don't have to worry about any inspections nothing or a wild pig right squirrel you can bring that home and there's there's no inspection no nothing over that and you can dress that yourself I mean butchered package at whatever feed it to your children you can have a block party invite all your your block and have a and feed everybody with that food that's perfectly legal but to do with chicken pig or a cow on your own and and sell that what is what is it about about selling something that suddenly turns it from benign to hazardous I think it's his protection for the consumer and I think it's also like it'd be fine if it was a small neighborhood where you knew the farmer had a great relationship with them but they're talking about doing things at scale when we talked about selling food to you know a large city you can't really just hope the guy did a good job that's the argument for regulation the argument regulation is when things scale up or you need someone to step in and protect consumers because if there is one Bad actors not taking care of it he has the potential sickening thousands of people right which is which is the argument exactly the argument for decentralizing and D amalgamating as opposed to centralizing and amalgamating is it is it a land like if you wanted it like the factory farms that I've ever seen in videos where they have these pigs their stuff next to each other and is large Warehouse in the same with the chickens how much space would you need to have the same amount of chickens in the same amount of pigs and if you let them free rein alright here's here's my point what you don't see in those videos is you don't see the hundreds of Acres growing corn and soybeans to feed them in that house the end if you want you to that this is some sort of a you know an island you know where I work this out of this house they're not showing you the tractor trailers bringing into grain bring it into and Hauling out the manure and the square miles of of feels to spread the manure okay they're not showing you how dependent that is on this massive land base and so-so on in the pasture model the decentralized pastured model instead of having 15,000 our farm we're going to raise like 45,000 chickens this summer we're not we're not backyard by any means but guess what those are in 275 bird shelters that are moved every day across pastors it doesn't take one more acre to produce the fee door handle the manure pile of the chicken is outside or inside the difference is when you come and see our operation you see all the land when you see but the factory farm you don't see any of the land but isn't it possible that these factory farms are set up where the Farms where the animals are raised are completely separate its separate Business from The Farms where the soybeans in the corner real are absolutely we grow these animals and grow that food would they have enough land to do everything together in the same Farm there's no need to do it on the same Farm I'm a big believer in mutual Mutual interdependence not complete Independence we don't have any intention to grow our own grain we we don't have the soil sport we don't have the equipment for it we don't have the skill set for it so we buy from Neighbors who do GMO free non-genetically modified GMO free grain and and we give them more than they would on a commodity on the commodity scale and so they love us because we're giving them more 4 bushel and they have a nice secure buyer and their local their clothes you know we're not getting it from foreign countries and it's all closed so what happens is in in the kind of situation I'm describing instead of having a fundamentally segregated food system you have a fundamentally integrated fusai to play Los Angeles and we can discuss whether there's where the Los Angeles should be as big as it is I mean that that's a valid discussion but a very mellow discussion it but but but we can go there but first let me just say that if California for example did not export I don't hook the percentages but it's huge you know almonds all over the world if California centered on feeding California there's absolutely no Murphy California okay I mean iowa-iowa Imports 90% Iowa is probably the most fertile place in the world and they only eat only only 10% of the food consumed in Iowa is grown in Iowa and processed in Iowa that's pretty crazy it is crazy Hawaii only 5% 95% come from Hawaii I mean why would you have to import stuff if you can grow pineapple and macadamia nuts in your backyard come on you know so there's a there's a huge disconnect I mean and this is one of the reasons that we're having this I think this this blow back from nature is it instead of having a fundamentally integrated system I mean think of how in Switzerland take take the cows up to the mountain pastures they milk and the milk flows down at the end they make cheese up there the way from the cheese goes into the into the pegs the pigs eat the way and so instead of transporting milk to a centralized cheesemaker and pigs to a centralized processor they're actually making the cheese on site to all they've got to actually transport is cheese and and and pork so they slaughter they slaughter you do continuous nearby not on the same pharmacist early but but nearby so you don't have all this Transportation what you have is a fundamentally decentralised we could even say democratized do we say food distance that creates resiliency in the system so instead of being tied to these Hunter 250 Mega processing facilities where decentralized throughout the land base how much much more money do you think it would cost for food we would kind of touch on this earlier but it's right what you're dealing with this more natural based system and it's more complex it's going to require more people and it's going to require complete restructuring of the system is currently employs Sherwood I think I don't have a figure for I think I think in general it would be probably double what you pay at Costco double first of all you're going to you're going to offer a lot of jobs are a lot of people that are going to be looking for jobs right now so so this offers a lot of job opportunities number to it's much more healing on the land number three you don't have all the for the pathogenicity and you don't have to use drugs antibiotics I mean rrr meat doesn't do drugs okay our dinner doesn't do drugs people don't realize that you're two-thirds of the drugs used in the country aren't in people there an animal's okay so you don't have those issues there are a lot of issues that you that you don't have and those those add up in the big pictures so people are food is the cheapest aggregate food there is we just put all the cost in all our call Ark ostarine okay and and so we're not we're not asking taxpayers Society the planet we're not asking them to pick up the tab for no for cheating for for cutting for cutting corner and that's what it cost and what is that that 40 years ago right now today 9% of the average person's income 9% is spent on food that's our average in our country 40 years ago it was 1840 years ago 9% of our personal income was spent on Healthcare today that's 18% isn't that interesting how those of inverted pyramid list of u.s. dollar to US dollar created the food pyramid and put Twinkies and Cocoa Puffs on the bottom as a foundational you can track the diabetes you can track obesity you can track all of these things right through from that time

come back Matt really appreciate it this is a perfect time to talk to someone like you about our food we're in a very strange crisis now and you just keep hearing time and time again in the news how much ranchers and farmers and people are really suffering right now and how much folks who don't have anything to do with that are now forcing their they're being forced to understand the importance of the food supply chain and ranchers and farmers and all the stuff that we've taken for granted for a Qui time now well they sure have and what's interesting about it is the juxtaposition between the I'll just call it the industrial the more you know commercial industrial food sector versus the sector that I'm in which is a local Centric you know a branded product from the farm the pandemic is the best marketing strategy we've ever seen we're having the best season we've ever had and the same thing was a farmers around the country is I'll talk to them every one that's like us that that that did not go into the supermarket system basically that that's selling in their community in their in their region regionally directly off the farm I having the best best year we've ever had it is the it is the industrial Mega System it's cracking and so for the first time we're hearing talk of well maybe maybe we need to add a resiliency to efficiency and so so yeah but that the system is cracking that there's plenty of food I'm eating plenty of food on farms being produced but of course as you know milk is being dumped pigs are being euthanized the problem is not at the farm level the problem is in the chain of custody between the farmer and the Sumer and primarily in the in the the large-scale processing situation large Meat Processing places that have been hit hard by the coronavirus probably in the United States the only place is right now where every day thousands of people come together in crowded conditions meat processing plants the offices are closed the theaters are closed convention centers are closed and so the only place where people are coming shoulder-to-shoulder thousands every day or in these Mega processing facilities Teresa nine my wife actually co-own a very small abattoir slaughterhouse Community slaughterhouse we have 20 employees and the difference is the difference in the vulnerability in in the Bossier and risk factor between our little 20-person facility where we do you know maybe 5270 Biebs a week hundred Hogs versus these Mega plants that have beads beeps like beef beeps what's the plural of beef is not beefs its beefs was just the meat I never thought I would have assumed you would say cows well as a farmer cows are are females who have had calves run agent he's out you know Presbyterians and methodists and and we just stay with their Protestants so so and now for a little bit less than 10 years but the difference because we do stuff by hand workstations the stainless steel work tables or what no 6 7 8 ft wide 3ft to 4ft deep and each one is a workstation and you've got three guys out on the kill floor you got two guys out in the other cryovac room you've got four guys in the boning room you got a guy over here running the sausage stuffer or the you know the grinder it's inherently small ski spread out completely different environment than when you having the 3,000 people in a cool damp environment from and I don't want to get into a rabbit Trail discussion but but frankly in these great great big plants most of the workers are doing that Americans there their they're coming from other countries looking for the American dream and so they're living in crowded conditions because they're trying to save every penny to send home to get you know Uncle and aunt and other family members here from Ethiopia Somalia you know wherever it is and and so they're they're living in a house that we would live for in a house they're living in 20 and they're eating poorly there in a during a stressful there their they're often separated from their family they're just a lot of stress in their lives and and and so then you throw these big processing facilities or not they're not eating well and if it's just it's just an incubator me if you wanted to create an incubator for a virus they wouldn't be a better place for a small facilities are inherently the workers are spread out they tend to come from the community they tend to be career Crafts People rather than just you know make this cut Mac the average poultry processing plant in they say that every job can be learned in 20 minutes so that whereas at our plant wheat we crossed you know we we crossed do we need a while then we go pack of wild and you're on the floor and then your you know you're doing different things so it's a real different environment and so these big plants are very vulnerable and that's why the recalls come from there the you know the microbial come from there an average an average fast-food hamburger has pieces of 600 animals in it wow when you get a hamburger from us it's one animal you know so just the sheer whatever mixing you know for sure we don't know a lot about this learning everyday and you know you got to kind of take a little bit of salt to but one of the things Early Learning is that there's an advantage that there is a density factor a people density factor and it like an urban-rural up the whole thing seems to be valuable thing and so if we take that into the food system wouldn't it be an amazing thing if instead of having a hundred fifty to two hundred Mega processing facilities 98% of the nation's meat if it's dead that were 200,000 small-scale community-based ecologically nested facilities all around the countryside that would be an incredibly resilient system instead that work 200,000 small-scale community-based ecologically nested facilities all around the countryside that would be an incredibly resilient system

elected to be there to try to to try to bridge that gap of the the non skating viewer who is interested and explain to them why the you know why this this Nuance is going to score way higher than the southern even though they look the same to you all last year where we went to all of the world with a China Brazil France and they built these parts that they left their but I was doing all the the commentary for the events and that was kind of where that's where my strengths are is is being able to explain those things to non skaters YouTube has an opportunity to sort of let everybody know like like show them how cool this is really spark up the interests of new skaters I think that's the Silver Lining with the Olympics I mean they're there is a lot of controversy in the hardcore skate scene where it's just like we're not we don't want this to be anti that type of thing anyway yeah and then this is all those things you love us getting will still exist right you can still go hop fences and see the hundred like that's not taken away from you if anything it's going to bring it to a bigger audience that is going to be interested and I believe more International audience think that's the really cool part about it that's the thing though man when things start going mainstream people always Panic right if you think that the competition element is what is somehow sanitizing skating we've I grew up skating competitions like I literally at age 10 that is the only way you got recognized when I was a kid like this is not some used to skateboarding it's just that now there are different opportunities in skating and there is a way to make a living even if you don't compete and so because that exists people are just like Olympics are a c*** you know that's not the sport competition like yeah but we already have straight leg we already have the due to our we already have X Games those things all exist so we're going to have this other big event once every four years have people always want to s*** on something that's different than what they're doing though I'm sure it seems like I've lived with so much ridicule my whole life that I just think it's like yeah sure whatever you say well for you if you cross over to the other side that's what's interesting you mean you don't even need a thick skin anymore yeah I mean haters like you're a sellout and whatnot but it's like those comments I like to see what the what the general Vibe is on something but when I grew up like I think my journey allow me to really be prepared for that because when I was a kid I was doing this Outcast activity right so I was already not cool in school and then I started skating and I was like a scrawny little kid with a really sort of what they called robotic style because I was focusing on tricks so I was getting made fun of in the Skate World so I was like cast in this Outkast activity and it was really isolating and there's some point of sick I love this too much to listen to these people and not do it but you explain to me what you were getting s*** on for like you have robotics style basically had to be super cool look like your style who is super strong super short kid and so all I really knew how to do was to maneuver my board and so I was doing these tricks ride like spin my board under my feet and do these weird sort of hand plants in an aerial tricks and end things where it just wasn't that wasn't the normal and it wasn't really considered a cool way to skate and so they just they were like there's they call me Circus Circus cater and there's someone I just like I loved what I was doing and I didn't lose it and then I got I got more confident and I got stronger and then I started doing the stuff like way up high in the air and then it was sort of undeniable that is like that is something so was there pressure for you to change your style and sort of blend in I didn't have the the bulk to be able to do it anyway so I didn't it was when back then in order to do Ariel's out of pool if you had to like reach down and grab your bored as her muscle it into the air and in above the coping and I learned how to launch into the air without grabbing my board and then grabbing it at the peak and that allow me to get the heighth when I was still really scrawny and weak and they said that technique was cheating like they literally wrote that in Thrasher magazine sheets cuz he always anyway that way he can just grab it wherever and I was like yes that's exactly it that's what I'm trying to do that's so we so they would judge you on that's so crazy here's this invented thing right right artform and then you're doing it your way and they're saying you're cheating Fringe and then I start doing that and then and then a lot of my Pier is where my age they all figured that same technique out and then we just kind of took over know that became the way to skate and but but then through the years like in those days you know skating was still very much a novelty and then in the nineties like X Games came into play and then all the sudden my name was was being well and was well-known not mainstream but getting and then are you going to come out and then it was just like all you're just a sell-out why and it was like cuz of the video game for Doritos and they were just like I was like when I turn pro at age 14 if McDonald's and asked me the commercial I would have jumped on it are you kidding me like I wasn't even done with my whole life I still do so it was more thoughts in my change my values and was just like I did I haven't changed my value system it's just that I'm getting these opportunities finally I've been doing this for most of my life for the most part it's you're getting opportunities that they're not so the best way to dismiss that or diminish it is to say that you're a sellout cuz you're on a video game like that's so short-sighted to me this I know this is like you're hiding behind your Twitter username I don't care what you first saw someone say that you were cheating by using that technique how about that must have sucked that's so weird because I guess it makes sense because it always factions in any discipline or any art form anything with some people respect some things other people s*** on it and but the idea that you doing it your way would somehow or another be cheating is to me it seems so strange that doesn't make any sense like I said like why are we fighting in our little tiny world that's just humans wasn't going to fit in there and so was like I found this thing and then just like you guys don't like me rough but look you hung in there and came out of the other end yeah and I don't feel like you should go back to school I can go to your union in Revenge for me I just want love. I'm just so thankful that I still get to do this for a living like this is seriously living the dream like I get to do this for a living I get to come on your show because I'm a skateboarder like the stuff that I've gotten to do over my life is beyond any dream I could have ever written or imagined and it's all because I just kept skating that is the American dream to me for a living and to continue doing it skating that's amazing do you still talk to that guy on you back then do you know that guy is a mean d I think he fell on some hard times and thought usually goes with haters

it's starting to slowly come back really win the X Games came into play where is suddenly we were we were on TV and kids could see how much skating at evolve with Holt public could see how much getting an evolved from the time that they last saw it in the late 80s and then there were saying it was like well these guys are this is for Real in your this is this is a sport things in and it takes discipline it takes it takes determination and end kids recognize that and I think you know that's really wins getting started to spark again strange little scattered cuz it was like skateboarding and bungee jumping and rock climbing and Sky surfing that's extreme and it was like what are you doing extreme sports know I'd skateboard games their Niche a few years later when they really started surgery weed out all the and I'm stopping it was more about skateboarding BMX Motocross like those became really the highlights and the reason for tuning in and then that's when things really exploded and we would watch it to see someone fall spectacularly guys would go you wouldn't hit those ramps and you would watch people just f****** and all my god look how far he's falling right yeah for sure and then once they got involved that into what they call the big are ramps the mega ramps then it was just like the the Aerials in the risk factor was tenfold the risk factor I mean I've seen some wipeouts that are just the baffling I think when when things started to really explode with that with a bigger thing and then Shake Brown had his big accident the one that kind of everyone so I went viral you probably seen him resist falling from like dirty feet up that's when they started to tone it down but but really they started to figure out how to do it in a way that is still Progressive but not just throwing caution to the and not just trying to break all the pythons spin records if it's just I mean surprisingly he I think he broke his hand maybe his his heel and had like internal bruising but it was unbelievably lucky to live yeah I was but but it was definitely a shock to the system and like I said they start to refine that event where it's just like are you guys leaving Alyssa's we're comfortable at the certain height let's just stick with that instead of trying to go to the Moon refine that event where it's just like are you guys on your list we're comfortable at the certain height let's just stick with that really work on New Tricks instead of trying to go to the Moon

it's interesting to see you even just f*** around with your skateboard just the way you maneuver it you're so Adept it's really weird like you the way you move your feet and just pick it up and it means it really is just at this point, extension on my body but seems like we'll be in a city I feel way better about doing that then like parking and then walking somewhere and it just you know I know I can get around people and Sir to be Indiscreet and stealthily keyboards that are they look like convertibles whereas these guys flip the board the wheels flip up and go together yeah that's that's sort of phenomenon sort of a social-media thing going on boy yeah that's it's very specialized that I can't say that the movement it's too few key people they're doing any bones do you have to break the perfect that dude sliding down rail some like how many times do you f*** that out but yeah I went through a different different waves of disciplines basically and in the early 90s it was all street right and so what I did was was vert skating that was kind of dying out so I I was getting Street too and I realize I was not fit to be a street skater the third time I rolled my ankle like both ankles twice then the third time the other one I was like I don't want to handrails anymore at this is not working for me this impact is these kids have it's a little deceiving cuz people do know how to fall relatively safely from from stuff like that but they get addicted right there doing that probably everyday yeah for sure there's all kinds of different style so there's textiles worth more people skinning Ledges and benches and they're thinking of their board grinding flipping out stuff like that where it's low impact but super technical and then there is just the stunt man who are doing the big rails the big gaps you know jumping fences and like what was like how did it go from just riding a skateboard when I was a kid you and I are the same age but when I was I guess I was probably like 11 or 12 out of skateboard I was just riding on the street when all my friends we just ride a skateboard in the street like what happened like how did it get to be like grinding across benches and railings like I think there's a will there's a pretty deep history there of how it got there but can toy and then it was really the Dogtown crew that took it to a new level where it was like oh you can use this to do Aerials and skate swimming pools and they were just trying to emulate the surfing and so then skatepark started cropping up skating not popular in the late 70s early 80s and then it was all swimming pools and then maybe like 4 years later the skateboarding kind of started falling a popularity skateparks couldn't get their insurance anymore cuz the liability was crazy and so then the streets became the skatepark because there's nowhere else to go and there was at this there were a few key skaters that figured out how to use like the urban landscape as a skatepark and then that was it like it was all best of Ross getting kind of took off in the underground as the street culture streets for it and then people start doing handrails stairs figured out how to use like the urban landscape as a skatepark and then that was it like it was all Betsy Ross getting kind of took off in the underground as the street culture streets for it and then people start doing handrails Ledges benches stairs cuz they just do not parks

so when we talk about San Diego being like a very fit place do you do any sort of strength and conditioning or anything for skateboarding is that something that people do some people do it I never found it to help my skating and I always felt like skating kept me fit so I never really did it I mean outside of swimming and surfing which is more upper-body than scanning obviously but but I do feel like that would have benefited me later in life got stuck in my mud and then just getting was in it you don't do anything I don't do anything outside I do I do make an effort to like swim some laps cuz my mom lived till swimming everyday we are where I live the residential area had a community swimming pool that was like Olympic-sized so don't you we were talking before about surfing and I was saying that I think that surfing at least partially would kind of mimic some of the muscle that you use in skateboarding and then you're telling me about getting towed in by Laird Hamilton and he got me into skating cuz he skated in the 70s when that was the thing was they were trying to emulate surfing with the skateboards and so he actually gave me one of his old boy that was my first skateboard and then he would drive me to the skatepark once a week I come home from college and take me to the park and then I just got hugs like that was that was my own way from home from that point on and so I serve pretty regularly I would say left now but but it was hard not to with my brother's influence and we were in Hawaii my brother actually used to be the editor of Surfer magazine so he knows all the surface journalist really good writer and so we went to Hawaii we went to Maui and he said hey Laird said he take us out tow-in surfing if you want to go we're going to go towards her with Laird Hamilton like that I don't think his level of what mellow is something that is what we would consider and he's in I go but you know we got to go like this once-in-a-lifetime so they took us out to Spreckels which is near Jaws which is there a big spot this is like early 2000s Soto and serving was just starting to come into play I'll never forget Dave Kalama is one of the servers and one of his homies he was trying out the first foil board there and he had he was wearing ski boots ask to the foil board that's how he was riding it I was like you guys are out of their minds and and so attached like a ski boot if you fall I never saw it attached killing me and Larry just telling my brother and I'll never forget them being outside and then you know they're saying it's a small day and I think it might be like a 12-foot sets and I know what 10 or 12 foot in Hawaiian measurement means just don't tell me any one of those okay and I'll never forget I got ready and I'm getting towed and all the sudden this this thing just Mountain just swells up underneath me and before I know it I'm just in the pit of the smooth this way there's like double overhead biggest wave ever ridden for sure and for me it's backside so when you're going back side you're you're just sort of looking down the line. Looking back at the at the barrels any buybacks on this way and my back to the face of the wave besides a little more challenging just because of the turning and in the way you're facing so when you go on front side you're facing the way you can really see it on the line you can easily so I'm going back side and I remember looking looking at the wall thinking like I've written 20-foot skate ramps and I'm like that's that looks like about a 20-foot skate ramp so I was gone I was cruising and then I did a little cut back so I started going to back towards the barrel and I looked at the bear on writing thing I've ever seen in my life cuz it was you know it was like a massive Holloway of the UC and movies that you seal are just dancing around in and I'm like I can't I'm not getting near that thing immediately just heard back even further to get ahead of it and then I did find myself after a few is getting cocky and I tried to pull into the barrel and it just clobbered me in the head and then I you know you weren't a life vest and then I went down I'll never forget like I felt myself going down one shelf and you know trying to swim up to the top and then I felt a good down another shelf and I was like I was bad and then finally made it up to the surface and Rush is like 384 me he's just been chasing it was there the Masters experts yeah yeah not conditioned body it felt like a long time and I and I told rush I was like oh that was so scary and I've never been out here and pull it up here it's he's at 250 f****** degrees in his sauna I mean understand why he would do that but he's like I'm pissed at this thing doesn't go any hotter yeah he lives on a different plane he gets in there with oven mitts at 250 degrees without here it is 50 degrees in the smoker this is crazy and it's 200 it's actually like probably it's it's pinned at 2:50 cuz that's as hot as this thermostat once a 220 I was burning like the inside of my throat from breathing in the air as I thought of ever been in my life I would just collapse on the mat after I got out of the song I'm so I got to stop doing this to podcast like I was having a hard time talking infrared ones are different where it said that they gave him a real bad skin condition and that like to something about is particular the temperatures in is putting them at yeah but I used to go in for a little bit and like will watch one episode of something and I got game. Have you done his crazy water workouts and gold Malibu know I would never survive that no I have a bunch of friends up there and trade with them and then they just text me afterwards what the f*** yeah cuz he's just not knowing no one can go easy now he's not eat there's no easy with lyrics he came in here and show me his ankle isn't ankle that broke that he never did anything to you never bother getting a cast and never bother getting a surgery and it's it's like the root of a tree is this f***** up thick ass need of an ankle it's so weird and like while that's next level he's just a Next Level human yeah yeah absolutely I mean I respect him and in my room but I don't want him to train me his workouts are so crazy like they take a 75 lb and they swim with it like the whole lot while holding the 75 lb dumbbell whatever I like that out there out for sure it's important leading the charge was just so he's so psycho about everything the guy sends you a 250° so now that he's mad that doesn't get any higher just so interesting

you are the Lance Armstrong skating in this is what I mean I don't mean that you got caught doing drugs but I mean is that you're the got like when people talk about professional skaters Tony Hawk like I don't know a single f****** bike rider other than Lance Armstrong I mean Greg there was another Guy Greg lemond will mostly longevity by surviving the first wave of skating in the 80s with Bob's like to come the second wave of skating the 80s where I had a pretty good career I was doing really well in competition especially in the in the mid-to-late eighties and then that's gaining kind of went underground ever quit and started my own skate company in 1992 and then when the X Games came into play I was still come on top of my game I did really well there and I a lot of people carried over my name from that that first-round where they were scared in the 80s and now maybe their kids skate and they're like honor that guy you know in and their kids are watching their games and then when our video game came out in 1999 that's when everything changed for sure when you were like 17 or something right getting was this little tiny scene so when I first when I literally went pro iFit was filling out an entry form to competition and I had already reached the top amateur ranks and there was little boxes Cipro in a little box that am so I clicked I check the ProBox knows it as Pro no one was offered me a contract no one had champagne that's it but you had a coach we had a we had a team manager he he's the one who put me on what does now consider the bones were gay but the the company is Powell Peralta and that was sort of the elite crew of skaters in the in the early 80s and I was the super young nuby on the team like super skinny dorky kid in a lot of the guys that were established or like this guy really what are you orders that I was at you that's me at age 17 time flies so by the time I turned 17 I was kind of doing well in competition and in making money so I'm literally sitting outside of my house that I bought while I was a senior in high school a photo which was a challenge trying to stay focused on school work when you have the party house crazy you own a f****** house really yeah because he saw me really not understanding finances are or how lucky I was and I was just throwing money away and on car isn't trips and Sharper Image just the most ridiculous things and then he's like I really think you should invest your money I used it once she is it cuz she it was helpful to her skin not going to say why but you know she had a legitimate reason for a bit but you know the time in North County San Diego Carlsbad and you're you're doing well you think that some other form look like a status symbol did you sleep in the house by yourself when you're 17 and he was the only guy that actually had a job and he was tortured for like 2 years cuz we were up super late all the time making noise and you have to get up at 7 a.m. go to work he was doing line stripping like back when you have to color separate for magazines and stuff like that I did yeah he must have been like a f*** this I can buy a house I don't know I think it was more cuz my parents values education my mom was an educator she was actually like taught in a college so I felt that I was going to be a disappointment if I didn't at least graduate high school and I was always pretty Advanced like I was in the gifted program and you know I was a grade ahead and a lot of the subject so by Amazon senior I only need it for classes to graduate so I went to school until lunchtime every day and then I was out wow and then I got my diploma and my dad not strongly suggested I go look at colleges and so just to humor him I went looking at like a City College in our area that's cool I guess sure and I just knew that it was my opportunity to cases and to embrace all these opportunities I was getting a mean I was I was literally out of high school onto Hollywood movie set Gleaming the Cube so I was and then moved to North Hollywood for 2 months wow what a crazy way to go from being a young kid to like right into your manhood it's it's deceiving though I mean we special me have that much success at young age you think you think it's never going to end you think you're invincible and I definitely sometimes treated as such where I was just like what you know just throwing money away and and like I said my dad was encouraging you to save it and then it all came crashing down in about like 1991-92 where my my paycheck was all based on royalties skate products and it started getting cut in half every month just from lack of Interest lack of sales why did it drop it was a just a liability saying it was Dad and just skating was considered of my stylus skating I was I scared the ramps skater skating was just instantly not cool cuz she's getting it taken over so I was considered sore and it was just like you're out skating is not cool and you're not cooling skating wow so it was it was like of 92 to 95 s were very lean so you were trying to figure out like hey what am I doing getting so that was never the objective it was just because I loved what it brought to me I love the self-confidence about to me I love the creativity I love the misfit crew the the community of it and so when things started to go south financially I know it wouldn't quit I just had to figure out how to make ends meet and I actually had a video editing system and I learned how to do that very early like right when nonlinear video started happening I had a system so I started doing freelance work for he's doing video editing super random some skate companies and then I did exhibitions like we were doing exhibitions in amusement park parking lots we weren't even in the museum Park we're like in the parking lot as people walk in as entertainment you know and doing that for like a hundred bucks a day but it allowed me to skate and allow me to pay the rent and there was like that was good enough for me you thinking that this is going to stop totally it well it was definitely felt like I was heading that way but like I said I was trying to I was just trying to do whatever I could so I was trying to learn different skills and you know maybe skating wasn't going to pay the bills but I couldn't let it go for my life wow that's a great story it was a I was trying to learn different skills and you know maybe skating wasn't going to pay the bills but I couldn't let it go for my life tomorrow that's a great story it was a

butterfly kayak when's you on stuff that I hate but I don't give a s*** the reason my specialist called I love everything is when you get to age 54 still something annoys you and stuff you don't like but you're like what I know where this is coming right I know why he's acting that way or I I don't I'm not a fan of Donald Trump about his childhood and how he was raised and I know why he is the way he is incredible monster like I know why he is the way he is so you can only go so like hatred is a luxury for you when you're young you can go faces but I think of them as babies that grew up and when I was younger I used to think if I knew you now had no I think I'll patent has always been this patent but now I can see because I've seen little babies become little people when I got off okay you just got terrible input terrible feedback bad epigenetics lot of s*** wrong here you're a victim of circumstance as much as you are you know being an a****** you're you're actually you're the reason why you're an a****** is cuz your victim the case and a lot of a lot of times and sometimes people can be coming obviously some people can be coming outside because Trump had a lifetime of systemic abuse but also people can become horrible for them having one bad day one bad day and sent you the wrong direction so all this blows and setbacks and reversals of Fortune to Hugo okay let's maybe give someone a little bit of breathing room even if it being horrible think about why they're being doing this also it's also did it's not beneficial to anybody to be confrontational and to be angry about things all the time even though it seems fun when you're young as you get older you realize it's a terrible way of using your resources and it also doesn't create any Harmony it just makes the people on the other side fight back harder like there's no middle ground given there's no compromise there's no forgiveness there's no there's no moment where you feel like this is a human being and I'm a human being and I make mistakes and they make mistakes and let's figure out how we can be nicer to each other and that's what everybody was like I would like respite centered life and death runs your dad other person runs your life and think of all the jokes and albums and movies or whatever you were going to do that you never did as you were focused on them, there's a lot of people I follow on Twitter while just go there at their Twitter feed it's just just railing about Trump all day I want to go over their house and you can't anymore but hug. how much time do you have in a day how much time is spent on things you hate and how much time is spent on things you love you need to figure out a way to shift that for me hating Trump is become like a glass of wine I indulge in it every now and then I enjoy it when you do something really crazy really funny tweet like that house has to be fun because you're right there aren't there people that I love whose Twitter feeds have just evolved into a bit about how do you write a joke funnier than this s*** he's doing in front of us you know what it's like to hear a joke turn the harrin the madness and not willing to admit he's ever wrong and sleep Jesus Christ this is someone why didn't Pence wear in that one time remember when everybody was wearing at the Mayo Clinic and he didn't I feel like somebody that I feel like Trump was like you're not going to make me look fat

comedian tells you how dangerous and Edge they are like he's not he's not he was on Stacy would sit backwards in the Cherryville welcome to the inside of my mind and need some mushrooms who am I and make you more secure with like oh this is actually bad and I'm tiny in it knowing how tiny you are actually gives you more strength and freedom cuz you like if everything I do is insignificant than I can do anything like in Philly all crumbles just do whatever you want will sometimes when I get really high and I feel real vulnerable I feel like there's almost like there's magic in the world where is like when I'm sober everything seems sort of 16 everything's just as it always is I'm accustomed to all these paths and I'm accustomed to getting in my car and driving so when I'm high the whole thing is Magic it's like this is madness this whole thing is crazy me a lot really does it's it's responsible for a lot of my activity you know like some people say that it makes you lazy like it's not I'm not getting lazy I'm getting I'm getting scared and then because that I go I go I got to go got to do something drugs put my God if I could write on this level maybe I would totally gobble them because he's operating on a different level right now or sign that Hunter S Thompson had given this couple on their wedding anniversary or they're with their wedding day he stole from San Francisco he stole his office he stole the sign outside it was a sign that said you know if you are scared of sex acts whenever there's a guy I follow on Instagram The Jacka understand_lope and he's a Hunter S Thompson enthusiasm post this Hunter gave it to this couple along with 20 hits of acid and the woman of took all the acid and was immediately checked into a mental institution got out so on the day of their wedding Hunter S Thompson rude at there's that there's the photo I don't know if you could see it you can say they're yeah so but the story is so quick scroll to the store Jimmy yeah so you can see where it said gave it to his friend along with 20 hits of acid as a wedding gift. I took the acid was committed to a mental institution never came back very four people if you want to experiment with psychedelics but I'm also very for set the correct stage for it also don't take all 20 you f****** crazy b**** take one hit what the f*** 1 day pregnancy this is a 92 Robinson Matt weinhold Department in San Francisco and Matt weinhold and his roommate is Illustrated in Derek Robertson action figure and then battery with Maxon don't start thinking about your mother all dancing on stage when they were boards McClinton I looked over the wall and the figures weren't going crazy but as the music played they were all just come to subtly I just kind of Bounce like they were in line outside of like a sound check just listening to music and it gave me this thing of everything in the world inline out better by soundcheck just listening to music and it gave me this like like everything in the world is like bouncing to a better beat right now and he'll really really good

but there's a generation of people putting luminol on people's online history that that will die out and then it'll turn into if you dug up something someone to 10 years ago everyone's going to go because we want them to be presidential or we want them to be represented we're not under the illusion anymore that they that are that they're not real people it's almost like when they had to admit the WWE was fake like okay now we can just enjoy it for what it is you don't have to have these arguments with your your friends over whether or not it's fake and destruction they are scripting out these people these men and women going in the script you're going to fall 40 feet onto wood table of glass yes we scripted that to happen but it's still a person doing that yes like there's a level of of of adrenaline junkie Enos and athleticism that goes beyond I think Athletics just got his skull not open you punch the whole thing was Phil doing a stunt so you're you're you're dismissing something your definition of fake needs to be tweaked a little bit in this case it's it's it's definitely scripted it's not like they're risking it all because they don't know what the outcome is going to be it's different than an actual athletic event but it's still pretty badass like is as far as what able to do I mean they don't get nearly enough credit for either cuz while they were doing it before the the lockdown if you were doing it 250-plus days a year traveling all over the country throwing each other on tables different time zones a bad jet lag bad food no sleep like these people that have to be in Peak physical condition under the word conditions to maintain that when the WWE was struggling play mom-and-pop Operation trying to launch itself and they had even left resources they do now and put those guys were still doing that over and over and over again there's no money there's the traveled brutal than they have to do is brutal still doing that over and over and over again it's brutal the same way those guys there's no money there's the traveled brutal the amount of mattress they have to do is brutal omma yeah yeah it's it's all brutal

see myself dying like George Carlin and a hotel room in Vegas somewhere in between shows I don't think I'm going to quit it's too much fun and I I miss it I miss it so much I had crazy ended with the seven dirty words because you know I got to end my show then he came roaring back with that the one about the earth the earth is not dying we are with you know maybe I'm done like maybe I'm a relic and no he stuck with it and then he came roaring back and you can always do that to see him in Hampton Beach Casino in New Hampshire I think I was 20 something like that 20 or 21 and I took my roommates to see him and he bombed it was a weird time for his career it was one of those weird moments where he had this routine when he was working on where you basically say f*** everything he would say f*** is real and f*** comedy clubs you looking at this list of things that he was saying f*** to but it did a lot of weird stuff in his life then there's substance issues that he had had money problems with the IRS showing too much money to the IRS who's a lot of s*** that was going on in his wife those times and also I think that he was a little bit freaked out by your kid open the door and then prior profession terms of language and subject matter and now here like Sam Kinison and Andrew Dice Clay coming along and Chris Rock that are pushing it even further in both good and bad ways and he's like do I even f****** Blake run why do they need me like I think there was a couple years where he felt like a my John Wayne at the end of the surgery I've rescued everyone and I've helped progress the world that title belongs in the world and then I'm just going to walk away into the desert is always sometimes your bravery of spring about a world that ironically you don't belong in anymore I mean women and for talking about certain subject matter and then at the end of his career he suddenly saw all of his stuff gets parsed by this new generation but like this generation it's attacking her in person or stuff you're enjoying the freedoms you're enjoying partially because of the s*** that she did she didn't lay down barbed wire you could run across it and then pointed her for not using the correct language day she didn't know that she was like I'm not apologizing for s*** this is what I do I make fun of things and I'm going to make fun of you and I make fun of me and I make fun of my family f*** you and she she held onto her guns forever forever and never never let it go Never Let It Go never shifted fear that all of us at some point there will be another wave of podcasters that won't understand the stuff you would Marin people like that did podcasting wise and we'll do it in the back of you guys like what do you even talk about the reason you're doing what you're doing this because of the shift that we laid down like the music needed it happened to filmmakers everyone shooting on Martin Scorsese not a fan of the Marvel films these are made the guys who direct your movies you like go I want to do that right like you can't get to be he gets to have any f****** opinion he wants also what's wrong with not liking certain things like I have very good friends would like things that I think are terrible still like him like you're allowed that if you don't like my friends hate Marvel comic movies I f****** love them I love comic book movies I'm not watching that stupid s*** that guy is definitely going to live in. Nothing's going to happen he's the hero my listen man I get it I understand how you feel a certain way but the other thing about film to think about a guy like Scorsese where he needs to be put in much much better perspective is that when you think about some of the stuff that he didn't like the 70s movies had only been around for like real movies for like 40 years King Kong like the 30s and then here you go 40 years later you're talkin about some of those Scorsese movies or the Coppola movies like Apocalypse Now like I think about how crazy that movie is when you really stop and think about what it was actually created and how short time films and even been made like that yeah and how crazy the execution of it is it's like pulling out when I go to the independent Spirit Awards the year I posted it in 2014 it was the 50th anniversary of John Waters first film it's an interview with the teenager in Baltimore called black leather jacket and it's about an interracial wedding being over by a klansman at the clan from marrying is it the 50th anniversary of John Waters first home if you guys are like we're pushing too far we going to he's already done all that work for you f****** go for it was an openly gay teenager in 1960s Baltimore shooting an interracial wedding on his parents roof with a klansman openly gay teenager in 1960s Baltimore shooting an interracial wedding on his parents roof with a klansman doing the family you want it's okay perfect

a video where Trump was on the WWE have you ever seen that yeah I think that the current president used to be on the WWE Zone and episode the WWE he was in a match of a gameshow just became president and pardoned one of his former contestant okay dick would read that go yeah I'm done against hurry up when I'm done I don't know how I am ever needed it so strange it's so strange all of it so strange conspiratorial thoughts are that this is this is AI and that AI is slowly bringing us deeper and deeper into the into the hive into the Matrix and the way they're doing it is by disconnecting us from each other make social distancing to Norm cover your face of the math don't touch anything everything you going to do virtually and slowly but surely it's going to lead to this new way of life where you're you're you're no longer Risk by going out there and making yourself susceptible to all these biological nasties you going to stay home and going to plug in or what if the AI knows that were in the protein pod let's make this fake reality so f****** insane and awful will have Trump be president will have this virus it we do unplugged thank God okay good fine I'm okay with it I'm going to be in the birthing pod good like first Cypress character in The Matrix a bike Bell plug me the f*** back into this thing on so I'm nude with no muscles atrophied muscles hairless and a jagged Wasteland of radioactive slag or I could be in this world where I have a nice job and I eat a steak and marry someone you guys involved with bottling machines like you got it's f***** up the Earth we're doing the best we can for you guys we could have just let you won't die in the Wasteland but instead we found a way that you can. Right right there just letting you have a better existence than you real one did The Matrix it was just flat-out paradise and you guys couldn't handle that and you rejected it like we literally had you we're probably the first burst Matrix everybody could fly and orgasms lasted 3 months and you can just eat all the truck what you wanted probably the first person made everybody could fly and orgasms lasted 3 months and you just eat all the truck what you wanted

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remember when I had a bucket handle tear you hurt drive me to the f****** doctor get an MRI control my NSX poor stick shift means you're poor and I can in the Mexican Hood once you get your automatic are like the bounds of those ideas the doctor D I never seen this boat by myself as far as shifting cargo 98 at the latest. grinding weed I was like trying to convince him to smoke weed in my bed so funny he's so funny without weed I could get him to smoke weed is everything everybody thought I was crazy and then I finally convinced them we were in his NSX to keep pulls over and go suck a f****** pull it out right now but it was while we were driving we got to go to f****** Baskin-Robbins you got to feel that s*** cuz this is it I finally convinced them to do it for hydrocodone is there an ice cream place The Comedy Store when he got on stage the first time you smoke weed and the joke I'll never play that goes dude I got high for the first time today and damn I didn't realize hot fudge sundaes were so f****** good how many store and he got on stage the first time you smoke weed and the joke I never pray to God dude I got high for the first time today and damn I didn't realize hot fudge sundaes were so f******

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Trump just said you said I'm going to f****** make it announcement we're going to have one, detour and just one and if they wanted to put you guys in The Comedy Tour in Trump's head how many calories are in a donut Watching God can fill stadiums how crazy would that be hey bro what's up is there a problem I don't want a cup is that old is that old f****** a beginning do something crazy about Joe Biden like some meme of noble and after a while pedophile see you later alligator what did she do representative the lady said f*** Trump or popularmos brother representative would ever get on a public forum like Twitter and right but for the last three years trying something lame like it's fake is podcast stood there trying to ruin him on a daily basis you brought everyday I take a s*** I put on my phone and there's a headline Trump there's a f****** a****** every f****** dad take a s*** that's a fact what I just said but I'm feeling a little sensitive but coming in hard in the paint and I'm feeling a little sensitive today

look at look at it like this was you established that the players like maybe you didn't know them in the beginning you believe them whatever and then now there's so much obvious to see in deception and lies at that point you got to go we got to go maybe all this s*** is deception and maybe there's other reasons everything was wrong I think this was a Black Swan and it presented itself and now has Joe said the people in power maybe it's tops not like a f*** that you f****** crazy dude this is all the crazy s*** all of us would be like being in that position but the other thing is I think it's very it's almost impossible for a human being not to want to project their vision of the world on the world we we we seek to control it's a natural part of how we got here in the first place we just have to avoid it now we have to recognize what it is we have to be very steadfast and not giving into it because when I went when ego starts controlling people and when people in power consolidate that power and don't want to relinquish it when the defacs come in are very slanted and don't in any tire sensor they get to decide the certain point time what should what should be argued for and what should not be when you get to a certain level of ridiculousness you know a guy bread with Bigfoot you can put that up sure that's cool you can get to a certain left like my point was what about the Evangelist you know they're stealing money from people why they're videos on YouTube just stealing money for the dumbest cities on the way example of vitamin C cures I think the solution is you put a note that says like when you put the video up when you go to click on it on YouTube you should have like whatever working ization you want that could refute that essential for healthy immune system super essential vitamin C reasons which is probably the potential for that reading sports information so they took down the actual red right lens she said they might have they might have just looked at the studies from these three countries with they wore masks and their their everything declined so maybe they're just because this and then Brian goes if you got to realize it's if they're not do it if I wear a mask and what's the next thing she said they might have they might have just looked at the studies from these three countries with they wore masks and their their everything declined so maybe they're just because this and then Brian goes if you got to realize it's if they're not do it if I wear a mask and what's the next thing

so I'm in there and the doctor said no one can come see you so I'm going if these are the last two days of my life I'm going to die alone in this hospital and and it just broke me up so bad that you know I've taken care of myself I've done everything I can to take care of myself right now and it was there when I did think about my wife it was never see my wife and two kids again that's all that went on a ventilator know my doctor saved my life my doctor said if we put you on a ventilator he said that he says cuz the nurse brought up should we put them on a ventilator because no way if we put them on a ventilator he's going to die because his body is going to say OK this machine is work anymore and your body shuts down if you've heard in New York 7 people put on ventilators died and that's why you think I think that's why it's fine I've heard that I've ever heard that being speculated by other doctors as well and it's very controversial because so many doctors put people on ventilators and the last thing they want to hear is another doctor saying you put someone on a ventilator their die but you know that my doctor said that straight up in the room in front of me hold the nursing like if we put them on it he's going to die referring to his body's not going to it's like working out you don't work out a muscle gets weak this machine is doing are you lifting so why would we want to put them on that unless it's it's just we have to put them on it you know but you've heard doctors were putting on people so fast because their oxygen levels were so low they like this isn't this is not normal so we need to do something to get their oxygen level up I think doctors are like everything else right there's really good ones then there's are oranges good to know it's true with everything else with everything Carpenters plumbers everything everything and it's really I look back I'm still now become very close to him and the dude say my life cuz if I'm going on a ventilator bro I may not be here because well it depends what they mean by that I mean you know when you talk when you hear the governor talk it's you know he's moving it along and in these phases and we're pushing it through and it says it doesn't I don't think it's going to be breaches beaches reopen May 13th yes but you can't hang out on your Lounge you can't hang out on your towel you got to go in and go back to where it was you can do watersports no lying or sitting on the sand right canopies coolers or picnicking right you can that you can be active down you can swim you could ride the waves and then get out of the ocean and get back in your cup I don't know biking through it with those should be banned all year walking Edwards view so you can get a f****** towel that's what you need to get a towel on that's it is how it's always been reopens tomorrow is what they're saying yeah baby well that's good that's it that's a start I think we need to move in the other direction I think we need to quarantine people that are at risk that's what I think really and let people make their own choices is not true not correct work with Michael yeah I was telling you this before we started and the doctor said that if you put him on a ventilator he would die because his body would stop trying to breathe and it would just sort of give up and this is what Michael Yo's. I told him and he he survived and then we're finding out that a lot of people they put on ventilator don't make it and I wonder if what he saying applies to those people the main one of the main things besides age that regulates immune system is like previous exposure to virus like so I thought that was really interesting in particular one one virus this idle medic megavirus DMV between 50 to 80% of the US population has it like by the time they're like an adult how is it permanently or but most people are healthy they don't know you know that they're infected with it and say it again what is cytomegalovirus CMV there it is so right and it changes the immune function it's totally different between young and old so so when you're younger and if you have it it actually enhances immune function so there's they've done studies were like they they they have given people influenza vaccine and often times he's vaccine studies are used to kind of test the immune response and like how you're you're you're given a vaccine and there's all different types of vaccines you know pieces of all different types of ways that you can you can expose someone to bacteria or virus but you have a response to it and the responses of Nino involves your adaptive immunity you making was called neutralizing antibodies that you know basically eventually buying to the virus and neutralize it prevented from entering the cell so people that have CMV their young have a really robust response to the vaccine much better but older people have the complete opposite where it's like Tina deleterious and the reason for that trying to think is because basically this virus it's stuck with your wife long and and kind of reactivates every few years and like every time it reactivate it kind of trains your T-cells Witcher part of your immune system to have to become focused on that CMP and so as you get older your your T-cell population becomes more focused on fighting that virus and less so on other virus you're exposed to but this virus doesn't have any symptoms both healthy people don't have any sentence with it I know it's really like it's really weird and so they're just very sparse all the waiters had face masks on that was calling you a scumbag and try to break you down when you're in a position of power there's like an archetype of a person in a position of power and then all the potential things that can go wrong when is in a position of power all the abuses of that power I mean there's documented right throughout history even though it doesn't make me sad but their grip is getting tighter once they're taken and this is what the problem when when people want to talk about like Marxism and all the positive benefits of socialism it be great if everybody like helped all the people that weren't doing so well and chipped on in and it would be great but the problem with the big state the big government is what you're seeing now regular people making s*** decisions he's a human being who grew up in the United States of America and he has incredible amount of power over 40 million people and he's decided we're going to go stage one step want to be go outside and look at the sunset you can do yoga Don't Go Near anybody you can you can golf no cart and he's got mad when you can't do and then they get to tell people you can go to the beach now but don't sit down now you can't freaking sit down and tell me what to do like that doesn't make sense this is what you tell people please be cautious please use social distancing let's be smart let's take care of vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable people and let's take care of our house but take care of our bodies correct this is a good opportunity for you to cut all the b******* out of your diet stop eating so much sugar stop drinking so much stop smoking cigarettes let's take care of vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable people and let's take care of our house but take care of our bodies and to eat correct this is a good opportunity for you to cut all the b******* out of your diet stop eating so much sugar stop drinking so much stop smoking cigarettes

you got we all have about this I thought about this I knew some Garcetti with it they have no choice meant that the numbers in Ohio Atlanta Florida Denver day of the going to have to San Diego 3 have no f****** choice not many but it's a lot technical name sporting concerts done and it happened you think they could just driving and driving illegal there's going to be a great if this impeachment if it's impeachment Dale they're going to come hard with that were out there there's a big difference between the way they approached it if everybody was open in society the way it was it would have spread quicker it would have been more people before that says hold my margarita Sweden says hold my slow down the transmission to make people aware if they wash their hands more if they put masks on if they did all that s*** the beginning maybe it's loaded down you got to think that that number is higher it's like 80 something thousand now write the numbers higher than the flu and they did that so it's worse than the flu it's it is f****** dangerous if you're not healthy it's f****** dangerous speaking to some Grand conspiracy to overthrow Trump when I think it is is they got some power when we were forced all collectively decide to let them take the reins and lock everyone down from a very real virus you know those people are wrong with a lot of time by the government bulshit going on and all these lies forging death certificates all the numbers through realistically though there was when they when they had this moment would identify the World Health Organization was saying that they also very trustworthy saying that you couldn't get it from a person wait a minute starts flying around hard to figure out together so much b******* with the padding of the numbers for June of the death certificate in statistician I don't know if those numbers are accurate and I don't know how to talk to nobody know the fact that it's a concern in the hospital why would the why would a hospital get paid to have a covid death like why would be why would that happen play send them a bunch of money has the resources in them in the beginning you believe them whatever and then now there's so much obvious to see in deception and lies at that point you got to go at some point maybe. I think this was an opportunity the people in power controlling people

pleasure so tell me what's up are we in trouble what's going on man it's well worth 3 haven't heard is it you know I'm here to Burnside bubble I think not that it was going to say it was amazing how how fast the up up with that closer than it was amazing how fast the The Narrative came out and I was nervous because it was such a shock to the system we have the last time we dealt with this fashion harshly worded the marsh or a note or maybe an extra sanction here or there but that it was such a strange development that I think it did in the natural reaction was to say oh my God here we go out there so but that Trump could make that call cuz they had a bunch of different options they have like or we could kill him is like he's been at Target before US servicemen but thousands and thousands of people this guy it was a completely bloodthirsty douchebag I mean there's no way about it and what it was like the second most structure why is the second most important person was in the Iranian regime next to the Ayatollah so but the idea that somehow we took out a foreign leader right or a military Jen will like he was some sort of Eisenhower boss who was the head terrorist for a state that is the number one sponsor of terrorism around the world and Zoe but he's been on On Target list for a long time you go back to 2008 there was an operation to take out a guy named mcnea who himself was also a bloodthirsty psychopath and he was running Hezbollah operations so the Israelis have been tracking him as had weed and at one point an opportunity to take out mail and also sulejmani and they backed off at the time essentially because the US wouldn't you don't get behind the idea they were going to take out to Imani that was at that point that was a step too far so they eventually we got him but people talk about again activities in a rock against US soldiers and against the Rockies soldiers Nawrocki civilians but it goes back to the beginning of that I mean you could go back to 2003 and the sumani was he was the architect eat shrimp Tapas idea as the US was going into a rock that he basically authorized mean he's in charge right so he authorizes the release of a bunch of SUNY so they've been holding on to she at Arch Rivals being the sunnis essentially and the Saudis are are their arch-enemy soonie nation and but he released all these Sunni extremists that The Rock has been holding onto essentially ever since we don't adapt can stand right after 9/11 and you release them into a rock and including against dark out who became the head of al-Qaeda in Iraq and within a few months of our getting out to a rock the the sunnis under basically under supervised tutelage had a series of bombings and started bombing everything from Shiite mosques to you want facilities in Jordanian Embassy a variety of targets killing thousands of Shiites I'm going to push this year in Iraq to arrive make them come to us for protection coverage essentially we can ride in there because he what does he want he wants to exert their influence within the rock he doesn't want a strong Rocky doesn't want the US and they're building a strong stable Rock mini go back to the iran-iraq war sumani started his military career and you know he's not there's no way he's a True Believer there's no way he's ever going to let It Rock become stable again and he's insane enough that he kills thousands of Shiite his own people right in order to push the Shiite population in Iraq to Iran I know if I'm capable it and walking a fine line between his own Shiite Belize population of it and at times being able to be sort of a puppet master for Sunni extremists when it suited his claws and it's if it's anyone's it's fascinating that weather was dealing with Palestinian Islamic Jihad whomever he deserved what he got no doubt in my mind and I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner or maybe not from us but from others they just back in October the Irani and you know claimed they foiled it an assassination attempt against to Almaty by Israel and someone named Arab agents so it's not as if we just plucked his name out you know he spent two decades get engaged in in death of man on him dying has not been like to take on baghdadi unpack daddy who's won the most disturbing things that I saw it was the Washington Post called them in a store religious dollar did you see that they called him in the store religious car and people that that I talked to the understand who he was and what was going on there were f****** fuming they're like what is this not who the f*** wrote this right you talking about a goddamn terrorist a real legitimate murderous terrorist you call them in the store religious scholar that you giving him his credibility that is. I don't understand people who are kind of lean in that direction and and and also if you get the same thing was Philemon and I understand he's wrapped in the cloak of a military uniform and you know all the people saw him sitting next to the I told okay but I look at the same way and it is busy this is not assassinating a foreign leader this is not assassinating ate a revered Scholars is taking out terrorists of a killing people and what and it's not a he was he was not you know you was not choosy right which was so am I was talking about again the Rockies got your man he's they talked about maybe some 1500 or so protesters being killed in Iran in the past few months as a result of the protest against the Iranian regime, because of corruption you know that the fact that they've driven that turn into a toilet at the expense of the Iranian people lack of of Rights of any sort and Superman again as head of the quiz for you. Number two person there he is responsible so I don't understand anybody who doesn't just say yeah I think the left had a hard time with it too hard left you saw them spending a little bit saying okay we don't say he shouldn't have gotten it and we don't say he didn't deserve it but and then they had to try to figure current President Trump whenever Trump does anything even if what he does is fantastic they can't get behind that they almost have to get to go against things that are great like if the economy is great I got to find a reason why it's bad the economy is great. If it's his decisions lead to something positive they can accept it unfortunate when we lost our bility to I think to look at things just in an objective fashion and it's separate the politics from little guy. You're not again I don't care whether people like Trump or not I don't I didn't vote for him I don't need a mister I care for the individual but that doesn't mean I can't like policies and what are you talkin about what's going on with wrong with a talking about another way that we've been dealing with China lately other issues I like President Obama didn't like his policies and I don't necessarily like Trump I like his policies I don't I don't see any conflict I don't see any conflict or either being people are complicated and I just I just didn't know that Trump could make the call but he could be the guy that goes take them out like when it when I thought that was like there was probably a panel of military leaders and like really important people that understand the ramifications game show at like in America's Got Talent there was a great deal of conversation that goes on. That's it was a president you know I have no idea how he processes information but there's a great deal of the conversation and discussion that goes on in the Pentagon within the Intel community and and National Security Council you know what happened but he does have that Authority yes / season in the Middle East and the legality of it but you didn't see a lot of people saying cannot impart okay I admit because it wasn't against you sue tamales wrapped in the cloak of of his military uniform and it's also people are very concerned about this possibility and they like started that off yeah yeah I hear is yeah the regime is brutal and n on an awful they're not crazy and the one thing they want more than anyone else has to retain power that's it and I think they looked at the idea of a military conflict a direct military conflict with the us and this is not to say that their proxies won't you know strikeout it is someplace around the world some point but they're the regime look at that but you know what we're not going to do this in part because level than just taking do you know a terrorist of his stature it's important for deterrence purposes and so I think they looked and felt like the calculus and dealing with us has shifted now and they don't understand it then I comfortable with it and also they can't afford it if we got in the military, but that was the idea that you know somehow we're going to get World War 3 evening literally will be over in one night we have the ability to take out their entire energy structure missile bases their key military facilities and I don't want to oversimplify this but after that first night's activity that's it they're done so the idea that somehow there's going to be there at me that if you know we should do that if he wants military conflict but now that we're doing the military deterrence and they understand serious economic pressures we got diplomatic pressure is primarily to keep him isolated I think you know I think we're on the right track with with it wrong I think I want to see a different reaction from them well I was a little bit relieved when they attack back and disorder like launched missiles on the outside of bases nobody died I was like okay so it seems like this is almost like they're making a signal like they're attacking but they're not really doing anything yeah I think I would I think you're right and I'll only that they felt like they had to do something yeah I told his guy on the way called Saving Face or not but we had warning we have warning ahead of time and didn't print in their paper did Nate say that they killed a bunch of people they didn't exactly exactly and that was them right oh that was that was definitely them when do you think that they shot it down because they thought it was a US military plane shot down wishing well there's a there's a lot of moving parts and it's never going to be a zero Risk game so if you're wanting to done this as tragic as it is and come out and said oh my God weed you know did this okay but they they did this to themselves themselves to be truthful and they got a long track. And so they they engaged in this and and shut it down when you find missile debris in a in a in a field where you're doing an investigation of a plane crashed that's pretty good indication and then there's the video on top of that other is a video of the missile hitting the planet to missiles Jesus Christ second missile hits another Fireball in the plain states Jennifer you know I appear two times cuz it's not devastated but it's it if it was some 20 miles from the airport it actually kind of made up as if it was turning back to the airport probably right after that first Missile hit but here's the thing aircraft fuel coming in for bombing run after they launch their ballistic missile strike so nobody saying it was done on purpose but it's it's it again it's it's indicative of the Revolutionary guard force and the regime itself that they spent several days denying it and saying it was mechanical failure and pressuring the Ukrainian to come out and say it was mechanical failure which they then reversed course on that one game obvious yeah so tragic situation but not a protest sound in the streets of Tehran which are a continuation of the past several months which were targeted out of corrupt regime have picked up strength and in light of that because the people are just tired of this so for decades and doesn't happen because it's a pretty brutal regime we don't understand that we don't understand how how how difficult they are right now serious-minded they are about holding onto power so I've been down everything okay here come the protests going to topple regime and it doesn't happen so maybe it's different this time I don't think so will you concern it on this is one of things when you say that we could go in there and level them in a day the real issue is their allies right the real issue is China and yeah but then I can't do anything China and Russia I can't do anything it's not in their best interest and they they if they are consistent about one thing both those countries it's that they act in their own best interest and they would look at that and go ye sorry I mean so what are we dealing with and in that immediate area you know billions of dumb that they couldn't afford to in the should have been spent on its population arming training equipping and dealing with the Syrian war and keeping his pal Assad in power so around in the sudden and Syria are tied together but is Syria in a position to somehow rise up and you know engaged this is not going to be this wouldn't have been a conflict as we imagined it right it wouldn't be a conflict of occupying space in ground unless with nobody want nobody needs it's not it's not good for anybody I'm not saying that I'm just saying that in the scheme of things you would have overwhelming superiority for its superiority and I can't imagine a scenario where Russia you know we come in and we packed we would probably has anybody would we would say going to lay eggs with you going to advise you you know it's coming down and cuz we'd Alaskan Way he was dragged them into it by hitting some of their facilities or Personnel or whatever so they would be that level of coordination which are always is no matter who the parties are there's always some elements of coordination but anyway yeah I did that I hope we perverted for the military conflict I think that again I think the rotten regime understands it's a new day said don't you come to the table eventually that's what this home maximum pressure campaign is about is to again create sufficient economic pressure ensure that they understand the idea of deterrence which I think they do after this strike on soleimani tax in their various operations in that region for a quite a while and we have been talking to them about it or getting the signal to them that you got to stop this and back in December they were told if you continue this path we are going to take Serious action and with that

how difficult is it to get Intelligence on what they're up to and what what they're planning what they're responsible for like when when you're here in America and how do we do it like who's over there like how do they do that how do they find out exactly what these guys are up to well a lot of its allies so whether it's the Israelis or the jordanians are the salaries of whomever so they know someone who's on the inside or like how does it work they've got a source they've got some recruited ask that you know it has been a tough Target for us just like North Korea has a tough Target and so we rely heavily on our liaison partners and but often times how could technology gets you can't beat having an asset having a human who sitting in a meeting somewhere and then for whatever their motivation is whatever their reason for doing it the cooperating with you or our liaison partners and they're saying that here's what happened or here's how that person looked right I mean maybe you get signals intelligence because you're you're picking up no Communications and then what you got you got something on piece of paper and you read the transcript of a meeting but if you got somebody was in that meeting and it will tell you what people look like or what the actual what year was in the mood with way that mean that's invaluable right and so we rely a great deal on that but you basically Uhuru up everything you can from all the various different types of of of intelligence capabilities but it's it's a it's a tough Target Fremont breakout time well when you're talkin about how long it's going to take them have a nuclear weapon you'd like to get that that those parameters a little closer together right so that you're not having a complete gas but it's tough and spend a lot of time working on that but I would say that we have tremendous allies in that region and I know the people it's fashionable nowadays to say while the Trump Administration we've been pushing away our allies and they don't that's enough you know what they do in the park because I get it the same old story is in their best interest and so is there any benefit to having someone like Trump who's very difficult to read cuz he's what you know he's he's the kind of guy like when when back Daddy was killed he said he died like a dog like he says crazyshit and he and he talks about like with Iran that he was that they might respond back with disproportionate results over the disproportionate response in comparison to the initial attack Iran attacked us but that was so crazy to represent the 52 people that were kidnapped in the f****** Carter Administration oh my God you know. But at the same time that doesn't mean you can't like you have policies that are in place so I wish I was put that out there I see I get it that's that's ridiculous right and it's a self-inflicted wound and you could argue that you know that most of the problems they deal with out of this White House are self-inflicted wounds because there's a lack of of discipline and so it'd be nice if the president was more buttoned-up course it's not going to be the way it works I think a lot of why he got elected as cuz he's wild and people like it they like it there like something different there their tired of these people that sound like politicians you know you hear you don't pick a person Elizabeth Warren to hear them talk and you feel the b******* coming out of their mouth while they're talking you know that they're playing a role you know that there with Trump he might be arrogant he might be crazy he might be ridiculous but that's him that's that guy I bet if you're around him all day long he's like that and that's that's thing that people one of the things that people like about him he's like that all the time that's that's who he is but he's not but he doesn't need the b******* he's Donald Trump he's a f****** multi-billionaire who is now the president of the United States so it's like he doesn't feel the need to put on an act for anybody so when he comes out and says he died like a dog like that's that's how he would talk consistency Dennis the what are the chances that you get to 21 Warren 2020 look at that but we get down in November the election and people just exhausted by it and so they wanted something different now they've had it are they going to get to this point November and get ready to vote and think I can't take another four years of it even though it's entertaining I'm exhausted people don't like change to get scared of change and things are going well economically and if you know if it turns out that this thing with Iran doesn't turn into anything disastrous by the time November I think is going to win in a landslide I really I don't see it unless Bernie Sanders and Tulsi gabbard get together and then everybody goes you know what that would work like this is a this is a real combination of people that I could I could get behind unless it's something like that where there's like some overwhelming candy but I don't see that then they seem to be pushing for Elizabeth Warren I don't see that maybe it's just me but the but I don't see a consistent policy message there I don't see I don't see that happening 444 her this go around maybe maybe he'll change maybe he needs to I don't know but the problem is I feel like these people just wanted I feel like it's a self-aggrandizement thing they just want to be president about anybody the Republican or Democrat Club in high school and that's all I wanted to the nearest State Senator and then I'm going to run for Congress that's that crazy as I didn't know what they were going to do that no one's going to get in there and help with him for a primary you need someone is already in the public eye you can't just jump to the headline like that especially from the Republican side if he like she never do it but would be Condoleezza Rice and super smart good person terrific yeah the Iraq war never has felt like taking up your ass I'm going to hang out my Ranch whatever the f*** she's got

Pennywise solbiato Amazon's doing business with the with the new Chinese company already limit the ability for all Personnel to stay off a tick tock you know or not. these discoveries can argue all they want to get their independence from the Chinese you know authorities but ultimately the Chinese authorities knock on the door and say we would like access to your database because we want to move her up all the information about every US military person you know that's station wherever or they're going to do it I mean I know the kids kids using kids like it and make Tik Tok video considered a cyber threat Robin OSHA and army spokeswoman told military.com we do not allow it on government phone cyber threat blow up if you need some an hour or is it just another version of comparing Tik Tok videos really weird yeah I can't I can't I'm too busy I'm not interested I was just a cat videos until 11 whatever it is 1 + really high-end phones as well how come they don't get the same kind of scrutiny I suspected they do it just hasn't hit the Preston takes off blew up I guess it's a app that will kids you know like and so it became but I didn't realize generative how again how old is Generation Z let's check out the ten-year-old we have no idea what technology is how it's going to impact in the long run we don't have enough of a test case you and I can look at my kids and their it it just within my little microcosm of little dudes their attention span proceed impacting you can see the back the way that they study the way they learn the ways and I don't think I'm not a lot but I don't know that we're doing ourselves any favors I don't think there are we're doing ourselves favors either and I don't think it's any way to tell your kids to pull back you can maybe get your friends kids to pull back but culturally no one's pulling back from the stuff it's they're getting more and more immersed in their phones more and more of immersed in apps and internet and the big things apps to me they all get on these little social media apps like whether it's tick tock or whatever it is then and they're all direct messaging and look into each other's stuff and it becomes a giant part of your life you know these kids like you look at there for like my daughter has friends that don't have any restrictions on their phones my daughter is like a time limit on her phone chat 1 hour and the whole day other than that you're not have to do you have to do that anytime and this little friend like you would think this like her f****** skin is growing onto this phone she never goes anywhere without this phone or hand and she's always looking at it like you can't talk to anybody for 5 seconds while looking at a phone check-in Tik Tok check in Greg is sitting on a bus waiting to get to those let's check my email real quick that makes sense that's not a bad time to use your phone start up a conversation with a guy next to you call Homeland Security anything suspicious yet his f****** got to talk to me on the bus with a conversation that's my favorite if you see anything suspicious call this number everything suspicious

talking about he's on our side you think you seem locked up you would think she hangs out I mean whatever. Another hour but anyway and he said the things he said about the lockdown and tearing it all out at first. he's he's like he's like that's real that's beautiful my conspiratorial mind would think like what if I don't know these are just conclusions don't make fun of me but this would be a great idea for okay I'm praying that he's okay but what about this teen lockdown tells Elon Hey listen be a rebel controlled opposition be a rebel say you're just going to open up your plant and then we say f*** it up house in Corona deaths and then we restart the lockdown because now everyone's afraid to step up like Elon Florida right now just talking about 15 minutes ago and he really try to help you out cornea open up his plant 3-way game it's ridiculous the guy invests all his own money in his businesses Realms he's digging tunnels to Vegas he's shooting Rockets into space he's making the these most insane electric cars look if you times we can't talk to you do you live like that but you live there are you on messenger do you live like that but you live there you on messenger

it's some kind of brontosaurus real mask my God there's a conservative politician in San Diego do you hate can you brine the first 5 minutes not talk about penises or cuss are you cuckoo as a f*** do Diaz YouTube YouTube demonetizing channel taken when you cuss in the first 5 minutes 6 out of 3.3 million hear me out boys I loved takes much of the next guy La Jolla Comedy Store there as much as we can serve fish tacos are open up more than us Atlanta Florida if you want to help people talk about health no one know no one's doing it all these people are talking about it's fear the talking about the disease how quickly it spreads how people carry and they don't even know they're talking about all these things about the disease which is great but put that you want to help people put out a message to change your f****** diet about the Belgium Health minister of hilarious Troy's people will be destroyed it was one of them number one factors in in people that are really horrible real out of Isaac Labor Day like obese and people with pre-existing conditions human beings alive today in our homes and he's f****** people are dealing with sick pay the difference between what happens to them and what Swatara and what would happens to the rest of us and what can be fixed with nutrition what can we fix medicine what we fix Empower right now is that you have people in power especially in and I'm sorry but I feel this way about Eric Garcetti and and Gavin to make decisions that affect all our lives and destroy businesses probably by sandwich with some healthy Regrets by saying well you know what everybody has to wear a mandatory romantic mask and we're going to extend another we flatten the curb and by the way the hospitals in Los Angeles or empty or health system is not overrun and we have flattened the Caribbean another 3 months what is executive overage and it was challenging Wisconsin and overturned in my opinion rightly so in Illinois will see if the death toll morbidities and Radiology I'm sorry I'm amazed and I think that you want to hear what I think I think even people like this the CNN and and and Garcetti into I think they're really interested in restructuring Society can you keep an economy shut down long enough you have to look at is 3 trillion-dollar stimulus package that's that's 3,000 billion dollars $3,000 and what happens with government what do what you're doing is really essentially spending your way trying to spend your way out of a problem what that really means those government has to take over these aspects of the economy lysed that they didn't before and I think this is about power I think this about the expansion tank on the way up here but they should see it Garcetti had a quote that we have to wear masks and if we we do the right thing and we're mass will get back some of our freedoms Garcetti orders angelinos to wear masks whenever leaving home we can recall him you just need you have to stop this thing because it kills it a giant percentage of the population can I run through us if you get it but if you get it for the most part you're probably going to be asymptomatic or are not going to have bad symptoms question what would you rather have someone give your whole family cold it or that same person get drunk and ran their car into your whole family on the freeway exactly but think about that crap about how many car accidents there are every year about how easy it is how easy it would be for someone to make a mistake and kill people doing a number of things that we do all the time right now all they got to do is say it's start doing what they're doing with the codes I like forging the coded certificate BBQ drunk or driving while barbecued who have to make a business work here are the most condescending or he's never had a real job in my opinion but that's a different story speaking of evil is people who have spent their lifetime building a business and it's going under and may not come back or somebody has spent all their time building a brand and relies on that and so there's never any consideration for that because those people have never done that and we've never done that you don't know what it's like I think I didn't I they want to destroy the economy he's been right about the whole Trump stuff all that the Russian collusion all that about why they won't link job was at Greg Anderson and Craig Henderson Washington I'm sorry about with a about Anderson Alabama Eufaula Alabama Anderson starting linebacker used to Alabama and I'm going to try football and he's Imma Try fighting and he's feeling behind that long-ago people when they get older or it doesn't work like that and I think it's not the clay dry resources think you don't have the resources to think about it all the time volkov Bellator heavyweight champ and before he fought Derrick Lewis a lot of people thought he might be the Dark Horse the division hundred percent Pokemon starting might be the dark horses division hundred percent. 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play pays a little bit more of a price I think every time you do it towards the end I thought about Tony and the gaethje fight that look I was saying it's pretty gangster who decided to make weight anyway but then people that you know Dana said this couple of people said it's like why would you do that when you know you going to help to make music he had felt something from draining his body just a couple weeks ago but he is so much better than everyone else to breathe when you're getting hurt if you're getting hurt and you're stunned that's what your cardio goes out the window when you get energy everybody everybody in the world is is suffering financially and I got to go in there and make a whole bunch of money and my family security I need the V I would have thrown in the towel that crossed my mind but I would have never done it but I thought it was I have never been a head MMA coach ever in my life never wanted to be never wanted to be walking to the fighter that sit down on the side like think about that he knows out there and you know what he does when it fight when the fight ends up on the ground effect on The Scrambled someone took him down Kevin Lee takes him down handed track Weight maybe ever not even for one second let's let's start how boxes come Tony Tony Tony was like I'm going to go out there and nobody said a hundred percent of us going to work you know what I mean so and it was weird everything about it was weird when you get there and there's nobody in the arena in between the first round and second round they only allowed one coaching right and they said who's it going to be and I was the first one to say not me like I don't want to be there Rashad Holloway is his boxing coach and Billy is Muay Thai KO one of them went in I'm on the outside I had nothing to say all I could say was Tony you're looking good that's it either of them consider okay now it's going to start to turn around like that point after the second round he knocked them down if you would have 30 seconds who knows what the what would happen who knows but then at that point now it's the third round okay man maybe around like he always does that point it was we weren't like I wasn't ready to walk in there so I walked in there going what the f*** am I I'm not an anime head coach this is the fourth round she's hurt and plus to my car got broken into last week they stole my glasses I always I need my glasses on at this point I thought maybe that's pulling guard or doing some imanari rolls works in the beginning when it's fresh like the way Ryan Hall is the best advice here what is the score I need help here and it's so quiet it's so quiet the first thing I noticed is he's cut up more than I can see from the corner from my vantage point I couldn't tell ya big brother man that's my brother I'm thinking like f*** like maybe the best thing to do is stay on the outside for the fifth round and just get through this with no more damage I was thinking maybe cuz if he tries to shoot now and he's really tired and it could be what what kind of advice you might want to try and everything else I've never been in that situation the Met business since 2000 I think I work for the UFC for 8 years and 50 UFC I seen everybody come and go but you shoot you for sure have an understanding of how to coach someone in MMA the thing is there's like levels right there's like Faraz zahabi Matt Hume level the Wizards of Tech game you know he would match human was on top of his game he's amazing incredible pulled Garden both of us fight early in the fight and he got really tired you know he was really tired at the end who's trying to pull guard at the end but he didn't have the energy to pull guard how do you fart earlier that night in the finals the finals were like months later it's not over there so many good f****** match on number one win one when he's right there for a guy's dangerous is just an empty and compete with the five now since they're both coming off losses right now Tony and khabib makes the most sense right now to imagine that Ian Connor he's right there right there could be want to do in his dad in bad Health if he's out for a little longer than he can do gaethje, that's true khabib and Tony Conner Shankar oh my God prodigious for man tournament and gaethje vs khabib on the same card. there's some other Dark Horses for Tony like Dustin Poirier is right there Charles Williams

I am going to make it to the election in the same room and have some sort of a debate I think I think Donald Trump going to eviscerate him dismissive you was when he was talking about something to bind said you're the Vice President Joe Biden said he was depressed about buying something say that because a democratic operative said that he was buying probably doesn't even know this is happening he told everyone when you can't find something I think I think this made it into one of our earliest episodes of dumpster fire cuz we hot we have a whole segment on the show called Troll and Chief and it's basically like every week what the f*** is he doing to whoeasy trolling now it's not the only one. Like to the culture #toddler Trump on Instagram again it's Trump's face on a baby and she started the baby and the baby doing things the baby didn't have you seen it who made it she's got a bunch of fun Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy Kimmel #on Instagram go to toddler #toddler Trump is there's a that's too bad some of the ladies abusing her baby cuz she's choosing the baby or something the baby clearly doesn't know what the f*** she's saying. kid was born and that was actually a real date that the kid got a f****** s*** head the roll the dice kids get a 7 year old man's face and you're like in a liberal place taking a liberal place to the supermarket I mean stuff like that

we have a f****** election coming up on the heels of all this s*** digital elections in Hillary's behind it so as soon as Hillary says everyone should be safe to vote in voting in this b**** is running the game something's going on virus expert that's what he's always been conspiracy can I get paid and finally it's coming my way you would have ready cash in his chips he's not a bad guy. We need we need some sort of a vaccination we need to vaccinate everyone can a vaccinated like okay but have there ever been a virus that's ever been a real vaccine that would work for a coronavirus I don't think there has I don't think they've had I don't think they had a virus they were working on a vaccine rather than working a vaccine for SARS but it never happened and I don't think they've ever had any sort of a vaccine for Coronavirus that way he's saying he's saying saying they need a vaccine and they're going to come up with a vaccine and that's a solution everybody has to be vaccinated but I don't know if that's even you know the ideas it'll take 18 months or vaccine maybe or maybe they won't come up with one right it's possible that they won't have a vaccine in 18 months of what do you want to do Bill and if they do have a vaccine where's the money go for making the vaccine who's getting paid how many how many dollars is it that money going like how is it a business now so if you have if you have a vaccine That vaccine turns out that we have to vaccinate the whole population okay she going to vaccinate 8 billion people and where's that money who gets the money from the manufacturer the vaccine is it are you going to do it completely egalitarian are you are you going to be like finding one by January is a credible goal pharmaceutical executive he sounds like a character in the movie monster flowey former pharmaceutical executive at the White House chose to lead a crash development program acknowledged that the 12 to 18-month timeline cited by dr. Anthony fauci was already very aggressive but one by January's possible the credible goal so maybe it is all the possibilities did you see that one guy that was walking around I think Sam Tripoli headed up on his Instagram page the guy was walking around at the protest in Newport Newport or might have been Huntington Beach and this guy is walking around the megaphone why everything we'd open back up California hope you and I you either die a hero or you live long enough to become a villain he is because he's lived long enough to become a villain and all over the world when you go to these any of these places you know what he's done in Africa did you see the whole documentary like he built freaking toilets forgot and everyone's like foxtail gates in Rome everything's crumbling and grease because they don't they don't have the money to maintain all their Antiquities and so the Gates Foundation is everywhere keeping all of the our history basically from like crumbling guy and I didn't really know much but he he was asking me out of the blue he's like and then did you see Melinda Gates there's like Irish it I'm here for me right now I would be on a beach there Soma it's a class war if somebody gave you a hundred million dollars you would wait about a month and then go right back on Twitter right you know I'm right you love doing it's fun for you and you're great at it this thing is that they're doing where they're at they're telling people they're going to have to get vaccinated this is what that is a part of the problem cuz there's a lot of people that have Kik this disease we got to figure out why they kicked it whether it's nutrition whether it's genetics with it we got to figure that out and this thing that you say and we know they don't know they don't even know and all of this talk because I wrote a piece about I was like a satirical piece I was saying why stop getting mad at anti-vaxxers for bringing disease until I heard and it was all about it cuz it was wondering like the measles outbreaks which is almost eradicated and now it's making a comeback and there's so much overlap in those communities now at this but you can't really conflate the two because we know how to get rid of them now it says but you can't really conflate the two because we know how to get rid of the measles we know we can get we have something that works

when do you think the people should be able to like talk again the Pete the dead person Interstate I'm saying like he'd been on at the Hudson scandals but he had stayed on YouTube right and basically followed the rules right so what happened and mileage there and Gavin's there and it's a little bit like Twitter but it's kind of like for the band and for people who I think you definitely said some stupid s*** but that's part of the fun of what he was doing he's a provocateur you know and he was definitely doing some stuff that there's like a question of whether or not there was multiple accounts that they were using that he was using two accounts that's that was an accusation but Twitter didn't want to substantiate the legal ramifications we address. end up you know it as someone who's kind of offers free speech I often get told that I'm bad because I I have to defend people whose language I don't agree with that is what free speech is not defending everyone who says things that I love is all the time I'll give you only defending the things you believe in atrocious and that I can't I would never get on board with because that's what free speech is otherwise and like you said it is at slippery slope of who gets to be the Arbiter of what is said to you should be able to express yourself and respond to the criticisms that you Borden or choose not to the idea that only my ideas should get broadcast because your ideas are contrary to my ideas I'm going to cut off the pipeline for you to express those and work those out and look a lot of people that had some terrible ideas early in their life and then they changed yeah is that there's a guy named Christian picciolini who was in the KKK was the origin of some sort of white supremacist organization when he was young and now he talks about the dangers of these organizations being asked you when I was young and you have to be able to if there's no path to Redemption what is the point of people with no nothing and and hopelessness is the worst so if you're taking everything away from somebody and then you're saying you're you're in the bad place now forever what is their incentive to even open their mind and have a different why not just doubled here's a good one London real London real had interview with David Icke I don't know who any popular YouTube show the lizard lady right but you want to look out for people that are so f****** dumb that. Did you hear about the lizard people yeah they're real man because you think that somehow another is going to save you and God's grace going to be upon you because you you tithe all your money Joel Olsteen he drives around the Bentley and you're happy for him as dumb as f*** but it doesn't work on you and works only dumbass of dumb people so then I guess it's okay and the lizards that are secretly transforming into politician and then going back to lizards with no looking come on come on so if you take that guy off you just make them bigger is a giant story that this David Icke podcast was removed from YouTube that keeps getting removed people keep uploading it it's like that plan demick documentary that everybody keeps sending me David Icke interview I mean it would because it's on London real and it's a popular program so some people to watch it but nobody would have really thought that the f****** lizard people are there in the people that do think that they're going to think anything you could talk him into cutting their balls off and riding the f****** common with joining here to help I know but they get to the 5 Genie like nope too much to my house of David I was talking about 5G there is clearly a lot of entertainment value in some insane Preposterous s*** that any intelligent person knows is not true there's some weird entertainment value and someone that really does believe that aliens live amongst us and if they're shapeshifters and then if you look back all of our leaders of all been that use a related together in their forgot one gene pool that the ancient Sumerians brought together they can are from planet Nibiru and there's something I mean really entertaining about people watch my YouTube show who is that crazy stand-up guy Andy Kaufman it's like everyone become Andy Kaufman my name is Jack value and him saying he's going to eat his neighbor right but there's something to that like to to stop that and band that you are you're not you're not stopping anyone from not you're not stopping anybody from anything bad by not having Alex do this entertaining thing about eating is marrying us saving anybody you got it with what are you doing with what is he doing the so awful I don't know how to fix any of it does it say it's entertaining but why is it only acceptable if you have some kind of entertainment cuz there's so many rap videos that you can watch that I enjoy but they're talking about shooting people and robbing people and it's on YouTube there's so many rap videos that you can watch that I enjoy but they're talking about shooting people and robbing people and it's everywhere on YouTube

think that people will put up with that though. I mean is this how America breaks breaks up is this as it doesn't become the the pro open and pro close States and then we just divorce will this is what they want everybody to get checks they want everybody to stay home forever until there's a cure so I can be a cure for this is something is going to be around when we might have Community you might be able to wipe it out that way this is not something that they can just spray away or inject away so this is something we'll hopefully one day they'll have some sort of real treatment with his vaccine or whatever it is we're probably going to take a vaccine every couple years or every year Dennis herd immunity right we're more than 60% of people get it the virus her dies off that's that's a that's a positive possibility in the future but the peat that people that are wanting to want to get back to work and there's people that don't want anyone to go anywhere and do those and it's become disorder again is ideological Battle Ground where the people that want to go back to work you're putting dollars over money you know like when someone said you going to be the richest man in the cemetery to Elon Musk open up his Factory like what what what are you talking about I can we going to be just stay home forever we be scared of everything why would you drive when you know how many people died and driving accidents stay home don't do anything that we make these calculations all the time about how many people is it acceptable to die it's just not so in our face for instance with opioids or they open using these to help people manage pain but you know a certain amount of people might become addicted or die there's all kinds of trade-offs that we're making driving another good example so we're constantly making these cost-benefit analysis in our society it's just not usually you have to make it yeah you have to be part of the person who saying am I going to be but it's it's also there's so much false information or confuse information and I don't again I come back to where we started talking about I don't know that a lot of people know who to believe and if you just believe your tribe it's much easier I think if I was just like gobbling up all the Sienna and are gobbling up all the fox I would be happy little freaking no nihilism Bridget say that I was going to get all those all those things but if you just look at the wrong numbers and this doesn't discount any of the deaths doesn't discount the tragedy I know people are but my grandma but my friend and I know a guy he was young everybody knows a guy you're right but if you just look at the overall numbers this is not what we thought it was going to be it's really simple and this is why I love that you have to stay home they're telling me you have to wear a mask when you go outside know if I'm around people you want me to wear a mask and a business sometime. Okay with that okay you can't tell me what about if I walk around my backyard do I have to have a mascot what does that mean yeah that people do what they want to do but can't you take them educate them in terms of their immune system educate them in terms of Life here's where it could go back this is why you need to wash your hands less than man other people touched it and men are gross guarantees that has to play some sort of apartment yeah yeah that mean it's it's been somebody I think I'm a writer I forgot to imagine someone she had a tweet she said it's a black it's a blacklight know it's a cat the backlight on like the sperm filled a hotel room basically the pandemic it's just revealed like all these institutional failures and all of the structural failures and all of the ideological Battlegrounds up to 11 now and I find that most people are wrestling and don't know really what to do but I think most people are grown-up enough to want to be able to take that risk for them self I walk around I see all these businesses in my calories business is going to come back something it's cost businesses it's cost a lot it's cost a lot of people's livelihoods so it's not like there's no loss here there's a loss here and if you don't think there's a loss of life talk to people that are dealing with suicide talk to my I know a guy would talk to this Sheriff should be a bigger story because the narrative is always stay or say first day at home this this is crazy we went out a real loss comes with your business going out of business loss of livelihood and that could lead to loss of life using and we can tell people they can't go look at nature and so I think it was Cinco de Mayo we went down and everybody was out it was so many people there no cops I couldn't believe it was the next day and appears of where they got out and they had turn the ferris wheel down at the pier into like a weird creepy dystopian message it was just like hey support our cert are healthcare workers and then there was a Red Cross and the ferris wheel and the police were there and they were like creepy Vibe with the like Ferris wheel and the messaging that is totally changed overnight you hear from and what what's the general yeah and let the government make these decisions they're doing this with sound science and that number they're not but they're not if they were like okay I get it cuz I was like okay I get in the beginning I didn't protest in the beginning hundreds of thousands dead in California alone no thousand people 1800 people whatever they do you think it'll be worse

she's at the LA is there they have a number now we can turn in businesses that aren't complying what is going on why talking about giving people information and how to strengthen your immune system 00 talk about this concentrating on the the new date of this coming in about vitamins and all the different vitamin deficiencies how are you supposed to make money I don't understand this week what is the thought but here's the crazy thing Garcetti said we're going to keep LA on lease partial lockdown until there's a cure I'm sure we met is like a viable treatment that you know vaccine but they're saying that even a vaccine there's never been a coronavirus vaccine Mayer La will never be completely reopen until we have a cure that's his quote that just seems we don't have a cure for the flu that poor lady who is the health lady someone needs to give her a steak and let her lie outside in the sun do the health Lady it's a little bit light like a pandemic life is certainly not like the 1918 why you say hey everybody self lockdown and don't work and it was like yeah I'm not stoked about it but okay I'll do that for my fellow man and then a couple of months go by and the numbers come in and you're seeing you know you're not seeing that I'll break in Florida from the Spring Breakers you're not seeing the there they've been opened set down how to stake had a glass of wine my friend Eddie Bravo that donate together like gentleman and a couple of all the waiters had face masks on I think that is just like your Colt friend that was calling you a scumbag and try to break you down when you're in a position of power there's like there's there's an archetype of a person in a position of power and then all the potential things that can go wrong when a person is in a position of power all the abuses of that power I mean there's documented right throughout history but this is one of them control daddy says going to put your mask on even though it doesn't make any sense it's like we're all grounded it's not like things are getting worse but their grip is getting Tighter and right yeah that's what it is deeply rights are generally not given back once they're taken and all the positive benefits of socialism they weren't doing so well and chipped on in and it would be great but the problem with the big state the big government is what you're seeing now regular people making s*** decisions is a person he's not a wizard he's not from another plant he's a human being who grew up in the United States of America and he has this incredible amount of power over 40 million people outside and look at the sunset you can do yoga Don't Go Near anybody you can you can golf no cart and he's got masks they put this f****** list of s*** that you can do when you can't do and then they get to tell people being to tell boo not yet not yet we're going to open up a little bit of May 15th distancing let's be smart let's take care of vulnerable vulnerable people and let's take care of our house but take care of our bodies to eat correct this is a good opportunity for you to cut all the b******* out of your diet stop eating so much sugar stop drinking so much stop smoking cigarettes this a good time let's take care of vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable people and let's take care of our help but take care of our bodies to eat correct this is a good opportunity for you to cut all the b******* out of your diet stop eating so much sugar stop drinking so much stop smoking cigarettes

speaking of calls I was just thinking about this because I ended up on a call it's kind of like accidentally didn't have a place to stay no I was talking to Sam Harris yesterday and we were talking about all of this time I didn't know that he spent like 10 years has like a Wandering hippie had no idea and India and so I was like you know how a lot of people don't get out and when I was traveling for two years around the world ended up on a lot of ashrams and one of them was a no-show washroom which was that so I came into my room I wrote a whole piece about it from now imagine it's so I walked into my here I walked in and my roommate Samantha Shahi who is amazing with watching the documentary there's this like exercise where they dance and go wasn't osho's he's obviously dead but it was his lineage and it was it was while I was out of there for like 3 weeks she looks like a girl and he said that he was 80 but it came out there's actually 60 he was like you are scum bags out there you don't have work and I was like actually are pretty right and he's like say it say you are a scumbag and I had to yell I am a scumbag in front of this whole group of strangers last time just that when I was like the 3rd and the open marriage Selma I remember vividly sitting just on their couch and being like should I do this it's so weird but then like I said it's such a great story knowing nobody I went to Australia on a one-way ticket and you nobody and so I was like I'm five broke out right when you land in Australia I was stuck in in India was $7 I had to have somebody like buy me a ticket out that that time and ex-boyfriend thank you dad traveled around the world when he was in his twenties and I was like how did you do it you know he's like oh you know I wouldn't talk to my parents for they have no idea where you are I mean that you have to just do everything by paper you look for bus schedules when you get there you know you go find out hotel when you arrive in the city it's crazy randomly pick me up is it going to kill me yeah yeah and then you would read stories stories about this guy kidnap his girl and cut her hands off like what what the f*** I'm so afraid of of that and my most recent podcast every once in awhile I do story hours where my cousin Maggie interviews May and I was telling you about my traveling and she was asking me and it turns out I like for near abduction stories I forgot about but I have those I have that fear but it's also been reinforced so when you join I mean well because he was he had just come there to kind of recharge he was in getting his degree in philosophy and occasionally, and he was a musician and then he left and went to Melbourne and then I went back into the city to drop them off and we were allowed to drink or anything and this is when I was still partying like a legend and and I got three bottles of wine and I drank an entire bottle of wine my friend came and took me back to the ashram and I was hammered and I was crying and making a scene and and he was like what are you drinking and he's a do you have enough for the rest of everyone so then everyone then he let everyone drink it was weird then it became like a it was a weird thing that's where in and so I was breaking into bars up and down like Byron Bay to try and see the playoffs who's wild we had to wake up at 5 and we didn't have we had it was a wood grill we had a grill that we put wood in it and that was how we kind we would have to get the fire going to even like make coffee or porridge or anything and then we'd make lunch right after breakfast is done and then there was no dinner is just like whatever's leftover for lunch of raking that was really interesting where we would mow but then you break it all into a line and you'd have to put it in a tarp and take it all the way out of these fields and it was like a really interesting way of taking away all that scraps make cold showers there were all kinds of bugs and s*** trying to kill me all the time it was while there was a wild it was a wild experience and there was so much drama because everybody was swapping partners I was supposed to be this place where you go and meditate and get in touch and I was like as of the TV turn-off drama it was like all that and he encouraged it and loved it and that's what's weird about these places they use that to manipulate you into saying yeah he's got crazy call Background at all he watched the first episode of wild wild country and he was like this looks great having so much fun wouldn't be great we just wall all love each other we are embraced our fears and understood our our our position in the universe and we're kind to each other and and and let go let go of all this fear and all this b******* and what better way to do it than to get a bunch of like-minded people and move to a living the lack of waste we had the compostable toilet so that poor the Pooh became man or you know like man knew her this was the same on the way firms to and it's nice to just not feel like you're you're creating all that waste because I know that every time we got like a package from Amazon like became man or you know like man Newark this was the same on the way firms too and it's nice to just not feel like you're you're creating all that waste because I know that every time I got like a package from Amazon and like

I don't I've been not getting news but I just asked him through things he says there's too many series to follow is the obamagate series I don't follow that or gets the FBI to investigate Trump town of obamagate that was pretty harsh where the guy was like it's basically relies on you having to believe a series of conspiracy theories in order for it to even hold up and I am going to sit here right now before everyone's I like and I actually don't give a s*** the administration did illegal and that you're essentially using the FBI to spy on Trump and then when it turned out that all that Russia stuff that they were claiming was going to happen didn't take place and that they knew it wasn't really happening to begin with that what the what they were saying was all exaggerating and Hyperbole and they were trying to turn it into something that it wasn't please follow the other serious is Joe Biden losing his f****** mind oh they have them locked in a basement somewhere and it popping up with steroids and Coke right before he doesn't hear me Tycoon simulation you know Kevin Rose from did he put something up on his page a couple of days ago I retweeted it it's the new Unreal Engine unreal 5 and it's in game actions of the character that you're playing sat third-person game in your moving this girl she runs up this hill and as she runs up the hill you see like rocks falling and you see the Shadows it's spectacular and Kevin said you know he tweeted it to me he said look at this and imagine I believe he said 2550 hundred years from now of course we're in a simulation because this is this is going to be just as realistic and 2550 hundred years from now as the world that you're experiencing right now another this isn't a hard time, but he's basically saying that according to probability Theory we are in a simulation it's more probable that we are than that we're not leading you to believe you're in a simulation that you can doubt it course will built-in Fail-Safe from him Jimmy Dore and Kyle kulinski the hill is Crystal and said that they have a really good political show and very well what's going on in these critical both sides as is Jimmy Dore like to meet either one of those his part is in both those guys even though they're left both Progressive guys they're very open-minded and very honest about what what's going wrong and what's wrong about Jimmy Dore special he has some f****** epic Rants and epigram did your standard you know this is this is the relationship right a guy goes into office he promises a bunch of stuff can't really do them but people like the way you talked does some things that maybe aren't so good you find out later and then he gets out he makes that loads of money doing speeches and Jimmy Dore highlights he's making easy even openly talking about that press Correspondents Dinner you know that joke he talked about I was going to try those lines out at Goldman Sachs yeah yeah I said he's going to make him some serious Tubman's game and I've read somewhere that the clintons are that could be wrong who the president is I mean he's a handsome guy he's incredibly articulate really well-spoken the way speaks is like a Statesman you know I mean he's always calm and collected is a lot about him I really like there's a lot about him but politics is a crazy messy impossible to do right business and no one is mailed cuz I don't know what they reveal damn I don't know but when you listen to someone doesn't a cure job of breaking down what went wrong particularly what's going on with this Flynn case they're trying to drop all the charges and then some new judges coming in Zion saying and I often hear even in my comments on the dumpster fire they're like oh I get all my news for you and Joe I mean I don't know the show we just basically make fun of how Bonkers everything is and I but I don't have any answers I don't know what the freaking pathway forward out of this ship show is it seems like it's going to get worse before it gets better which is my fear

crazy about this it's so there's so many variables in terms of like how people how people are affected by it and what goes wrong and there's been no studies with starscove to but they're having influenza studies showing that Viral dose really interesting studies that have been done where I don't know who Island play studies but like sign me up to get influenza I want to be like in various titers of influenza virus in the point of the studies to figure out what viral dos and they have like some measurement like in tissue culture number or whatever and they found like take to make people have symptoms right and they found with influenza AAA or something I think one of those screens look like they could do a certain do sight end of the 7 in tissue culture whatever units were 70% of the people would get like symptoms ranging from fever no cough and all the influenza you know flu symptoms but then when they went down to from 10 to the 7 to 10 to the 5 only like 10% of people were getting feel like it's kind of interesting that Viral dose at least Within and then there's actually been some other studies I think measles also that it is it is a thing not something that you want to like going experiment with yourself but you know that's another possibility right especially in the beginning when you were seeing these people there were like using a makeshift masks and she doesn't do much to prevent you from breathing in maybe a respiratory droplet or something or aerosol but it will prevent you from spreading it to a certain degree like I get that people don't want to wear masks like it sucks like without you know he wants to wear a mask but maybe to open up the economy again like now maybe like everyone could wear a mask if they're going to be inside around a bunch of people grocery store going to be forever you know why it's not going to be forever because we're going to figure this stuff out we are like it's already were already finding repurpose Therapeutics and monoclonal antibodies people working on it that's going to be coming soon and eventually they'll identify kids can start the Monaco so like from Des affaires already been identified and there may start to identify other ones like the pancreatic pancreatitis drug in Japan cambistat something there's a Pepcid I mean there's a lot of different repurposing drugs that are being investigated you know and I think over the next couple of months and then regeneron's already you know doing one of these monoclonal antibodies I think in the next couple of months will have more Therapeutics then we have right now at that'll that'll make things less scary people will be less gay getting sick because The Hobbit you know if you'll have a better idea of all we have some more you know things that can therapeutic Retreat this you know successfully hopefully people are going to start looking at the vitamin D I really like that I really hope that if not just I hope people are going to be no take their vitamin D or after doctor to take it you know but yeah I think they have the people wear the mask because the class math isn't going to prevent them from getting spreading an asymptomatic which is that that's been shown that you if you are asymptomatic that CDC said he had mentioned a while ago but how pre symptomatic vs. asymptomatic after a week when they came back to measure the people again they found that out of the Thirteen ten of them actually dig it sometimes the other three that were asymptomatic had as much they were they had were spreading I'm sorry that could make them I think that I know people don't want to wear masks and I have I have family members that like think it's like infringing their freedom you know and like it it does suck and I know people artwork I mean the thing is like also children I don't know how to tackle that issue cuz it's really hard that's that seems a little more difficult but like adults you know and you know I think that if you're working when I open your restaurant back up here you know like I think that that seems like a good compromise foster children I don't know how to tackle that miss you cuz it's really hard that's that seems a little more difficult but like adults you know you know I think that if you're working when I opened your restaurant back up here you know like I know I think that that seems like a good compromise right

formula to between the percentage of humidity and then the increase temperature the way it feels like if it's at 180 but you have 10% email humidity it's like many of the people there are using the humid amazing to have a song on outside song it's right next to a frozen lake like the way they do it in the lake and then get the party and it was cold and it's right on a lake and so they have like the day I want it was not coed day so you know it's only women sauna that I went in there is like like sectioned-off but so you go and you do need if they have all these different types and I don't remember and they like what with like Birchwood you know which branches to do that they called the Banya Russian Banya branches that are wet he's got a you know but huge property in in like the country in the woods like in in Finland and select the first time I ever went camping and it was like snow camping it was crazy it was like the worst thing ever like he had like there's like two tens and a conference that I gave it some people paid extra to like go to this event that that was after it said there was like 30 or so people there and they're all from all around the world me down and some other guy I know for Americans that I think but anyways it was my first time camping like outside like not in like like me but I like stay in a cabin because all night too because it was snow camping we had to like there was some weird that fire thing and he was at this guy was in the military and so we had us do this thing we're like everyone in had to wake up at forgot what it was every hour someone get a pass this this year in a big Walter we're in a big I don't know what it was called but I didn't sleep the whole night and was awful experience so he doesn't believe in you can't wear like swimsuits or anyting in the sauna so you have to be like no clothes or if you really wanted you could wear a towel like if you were modest or whatever okay so they were too I know they told me they told me to Ono desano's an asexual play some like really really you're human being I know so so it's only three people were telling me Dan and this other American and so everyone was in there naked lots of like there weren't that many females but there were some from I don't know the UK or some German I don't know but they were all naked like it was like I guess Europeans are like that you know like they're more used to it I love your podcast in this house like I'm not going to get naked before I said there was there and you think I'm going to be naked like in this they're doing downward dog naked wonderful get out of here like my my first Finnish sauna experience where it was like people are too open-minded they really are Olaf and jump in the lake like 420 difference in the benefits of it leg Avenue was just like the truth like I was hot as f*** right so I like I didn't care anymore like I care about my table I didn't care what was going on I was trying not to look everyone and I like I didn't want to see like you know I'm married cuz he passed out like this flyer cuz like we were doing all these events in all these events were happening this flyer passed out and it's like we're reading it and I was like this you have to let you can't wear any clothes or swimsuit or anything so I packed my things like like this you have to you can't wear any clothes or some suit or anything so I packed my sounds like

told you my Xylitol story I wanted to tell you this so dumb I know you do I remember like after show like you to come right sure Xylitol gum make the urethra tall kind of thing affect where it's like too much GI distress but when you're chewing gum or using toothpaste many Studies have shown that it kills anaerobic bacteria like streptococcus coctostan mutants that cause cavities in dental decay room so it's like a big deal so I went to my son I went to the dentist my Dennis is a really great and he didn't act original cleaning you know that's hiding thing and and he comes back and he's like he's got two cavities and oral microbiome the way I am is I always like to like look into everything before I do anything it's like okay this is not my field I understand I told him I'm like I'm going to do some reading research and see if I can find you know if there's any no possibility that don't have to like it a filling right and he's like okay well if you find anything please send it my way so so then I found out I was pregnant and so I can't go back to dentist and at that point I was like looking through everything on my toiletries and everything turn phone sounds like chloride like in my toothpaste so I was like I don't want to use fluoride toothpaste anymore and the stories are going to connect but so fluoride fluoride has been shown a lot of people worried about the effects on the brain and the only solid evidence I could find on the negative effects of fluoride on the brain or in utero meaning pregnant women you know the effects on babies and I don't know if toothpaste has enough to do anything but in my mind I was like nope getting real I got a water filter that got rid of the fluoride in the water and I was like doing all that so I came across this is Xylitol toothpaste while I was looking for consonants and then I found all these studies these bacteria that cause cavities that pregnant women that chew Xylitol gum by the way the studies were with gum not toothpaste and pregnant pregnant women like they're like six months pregnant all the way up until anywhere between the child unit the baby being 6 months and there was is that one out like a year and then they met the researchers measured the oral bacteria of the Toddlers and then they measure multiple years out loud as they became children and the mothers chewing it between the gum it lowered the incidence of the mutants in the children because you know mother's kiss their kids and you transfer oral bacteria and so they're like they're chewing is that at all, had a positive effect on the child oral and I was like yeah I'm going to do this I was like I gave myself TMJ like I chewed so much xylitol gum I was pregnant and like I still like to the Statue I have some with me right now but the best of Dennis because you know pregnancy makes your teeth worse there's like all the stuff about you bleeding your gums bleed there's like there's some kind of term we're like women get like like what's that periodontitis or gingivitis one of those two anyways so I go back to Dennis we do the x-rays and I'm like and and I was like that's amazing as it gets the pregnancy is there any said no he's like we hit women coming in here after pains like worse and only thing that I did that I could think of is like my obsessive Xylitol gum chewing which I still do and the fact that it does decrease that you know I don't know how it would affect an already formed cavity but my cavities are gone you know any dentist could just feel like they're still there like I don't know what the X-ray supposed to look like I remember there's another one that causes dental decay but it didn't affect any of the good bacteria in the mouth so so is like and now I'm just like this all stuff that's the same same family that you get from staph infections staphylococcus mutant that that that's the same is that the same family that you get from staph infections blah blah blah blah

how to get one here we're probably going to wind up doing that get one here and before you know like for you podcast and I'll time it will have an extra hour so I can get in the sauna that's awesome yeah makes a big difference for me but I also just I think it might be a little too much before it like I'm always trying to regulate how much activity I do with whether or not I'm be exhausted when I do a podcast cuz I used to do yoga and then I would come out I would get out of yoga at 11 or 10:30 and I would do a podcast at 12 and I was like wool felt better wait till 1 cuz I just be so cuz 90 minute yoga classes in 205 degrees is f****** rough with intent and it's rough yeah I've only been a couple times I would love to like do it more I loved it I really loved it going right now measuring all sorts of markers and people that have done hot yoga and whether or not it mimics heat shot Pro who created in the sauna because the thing is like you are getting this incredible cardiovascular exercise is your heart's beating like crazy and you know you're not doing cardio per se but your heart rate goes gets jacked because of the heat in the struggling and then on top of that even though it's only a hundred and five degrees your body is heating up your you're really sweating up a storm in their mate gets I've taken some friends there that have never experienced it before in the life and they get in there and then I look over and I'm 15 minutes anyway and I'm like yeah it's not what you think it is because you're like the hot part yoga is is also like it's pretty intense like holding those positions and stuff and like it's like just from that alone mimics moderate physical activity I mean that's like it's it's it's super intense it's the really cool thing about and I want to get my mom I think once we move the song I Like to our home where it's not like the office like I want to people that are not people that are sedentary and people are sedentary for whatever reason maybe they're sending her because they're disabled or maybe their sedentary because they've had a lifetime of being sedentary and it's it is just hard to get them motivated to go exercise like this sauna to me is like that's so important because it's giving these people a potential cardiovascular workout know it is I've been shown is giving him a cardiovascular workout without having to force them to go for a run or go down a bike you know that people think like when you tell him go sit in the sauna they think of like a spa like yeah I want to go do that you get someone who's like like my mom you know she's not like a physically active person and but like my goal is to get are doing and walk start slowly because you have to adopt you know what the sheetrock proteins help with that as you the more the more times you're exposed to heat stress and the more adapted you are like the the heat shock proteins increase quicker and so it helped his party adaptacion process as well if you know being able to handle the heat stress but like I want to get her to do that because like any you know any cardiovascular improvements going to help her moods can help her you know all-cause mortality that's been shown you know 427 week 40 40% lower all-cause mortality cardiovascular mortality 50% lower you know so like I I think that's a really cool thing about the sauna is that you can get people that are disabled people that can't go for a run you know I mean I still think exercise is the best thing ever. For everything you know for everything it's just an overall improve the way you age and that's going to make you more robust and resilient to anyting I'm Sama to me is there so many benefits but one of the big ones is that muscles feel better they feel looser they they're not as sore like when I have hard workouts and I get in the sauna afterwards I feel like where my recovery is more rapid interesting that's interesting call that had a limb and mobilize I don't remember what limit was but after a week people that had the heat treatment local heat treatment had almost 40% less muscle atrophy and it's animal chewed and animal studies and like I remember I like shared is animal study or in an article I wrote your years ago before the humans said he came out and went through a critical is animals years ago before the humans said he came out in like they're critically with animals and you can't say it does this and the mechanism they showed it was heat shock proteins and there's all you know like and I was so happy when I human said he came out so I told you

run up hot baths that's something that I wanted to cover before we got off track on talking about Saint I want people that don't have access to a sauna how much benefit 10 to get out of a hot bath about that up because there was that showed hot bath can have an antidepressant effect and these people were put in 104° Fahrenheit that where they were up to their shoulders for like 20 to 30 minutes and the Sham control was like a green light like people thought they were getting a treatment during some kind of green light therapy or whatever you now so is it was a placebo control because p****-whipped Stephanie real perfectly with depression and it it it it had a pretty powerful antidepressant effect very similar to Charles raised on study with the the hyperthermic chamber thing potential biomarkers being identified C-reactive protein being one inflammation inflammation plays a there is like a huge link now between the immune system and chronic inflammation and depression brain function in general brain aging but inflammation so I mean that's there is there is a push for a looking but not all depressed patients have it's like there's a subset of C-reactive protein but yeah depressions measure it's a very much like to have someone so measurement would be a clinical old person like measuring a whole battery of things they do I forgot the name of the test but yeah that's that's the test was like basically the battery of feeling things is not like a hardcore quantitative biomarker which it's so badly is needed but the Hawkeyes have also been shown so he charged proteins hanging out in the brain or so important like preventing proteins from aggregating the brain that's how I first got in that like one of my first biological experiments ever cuz I was a chemistry major in college those aren't all chemistry stuff organic chemistry and like chemistry but after I graduated I went to work at the Salk Institute for biological sciences in La Jolla I was working in aging lab and one of the first experiments I had that I was doing like one of my first projects with your taking the human amyloid-beta Gene and an injecting him and he's wormed his nematode worms that only live like 14 or 15 days and you're making them form amyloid plaques in their muscle so that face when you look at these little worms under microscope so you know they move around like they get older and quickly lower a little more than a couple of days they become paralyzed or they like Wang and their little plate play food you can you get me them and they can't just move around like her nose just moving around and so when we would give them tons of heat shock proteins in addition to the amyloid totally reversed it like completely black but they would move around Beyonce depression but satin 163 degree Fahrenheit sign up for 30 minutes had heat shock proteins let their levels were 50% higher over Baseline and great and that usually like animals they can stay elevated for like 48 hours after that there's a hot bath study where they also elevated wasn't quite as high but it was like no 40% higher than Baseline levels and it was 104 degrees but this study instead of doing it from the shoulders down call about the Depression was like only 20 30 minutes it was like from the waist down so they had to stay in there for an hour but a Jacuzzi you know where you're sitting there from the waist down and like it's hot like saying 104 that's the three hot but heat shock proteins to increase so I think you know for it for people that don't have access to a sauna that hot baths absolutely are a good modality for heat stress and I used it for a long time like I said I just got a saint like I've been I've made a career about talking about saunas you know what I just got one like last month so like like I understand what it's like to not have sauna Tattoo Utah pass but I was also using the gym saunas but right now it's like there's no gems that are open so difference is it between taking a really cold shower ice bath vs. something like crying cryotherapy as a place that I took you two so I mean there's differences in so it depends on how long you're staying in a cold you know what it like hold shower like actually being submerged like from like if you like in the ocean or something or lake and you're like from your shoulders down like that's probably much more powerful than just having the shower on but by the way the shower like some days I'm like what does matter this this is not cold at all you know it's just so variable Southern Southern California live in the right a board of Mexican today so so ever sold most of time now I shower right after song that's like my shower now and so it's like it's like I do about 6 minutes and it's so easy for me I totally have adapted and I'm not sure if I've just totally adopted or if it's just like my faucet doesn't get his like this doesn't get cold at cold like I really doesn't today I took a cold shower from home and had my son is not there and I did it just because I wanted to have food affects the norfenefrine has been shown to be increased and it was much colder but then again of the different shower I'm not sure if it's cuz I didn't have the hot before he knew beforehand like the Happy hot and like getting in the cold shower like it just feels really good but the most of time with colchuck is norepinephrine release and norepinephrine plasma plasma upon cold exposure asthma to in the brain involved with like mood and focusing attention so it's been studies were like you could do a 2-minute cryo whatever the average temperature it's really cold - 240 nothing like that yeah and then that could be compared to like you know a longer a longer duration in 50 degree me no degree Fahrenheit water or something like that doesn't think I don't remember the exact time but but it is comparable to have to stay in a longer duration Some people prefer ice baths some athletes prefer the ice bath vs. cryotherapy even though it so it's probably more painful because it lasts longer have you down there she's also very relevant both cold and Brian hot they both have been trying to increase lymphocyte numbers and also like other myeloid cells and stuff I mean people but but like there's something like I've done the sauna and then gone into an ice bath and then you know it's just really hard it's cold I mean you feel good but man you know I think just like the guy's house I was doing so was it was pretty intense I do I do eventually want to get some kind of like they have those like like ice those baths that you can like regulate you like regulate the water temperature

I just seems like in the beginning at least they're trying to figure out what the correct treatment was for these people as they were just showing up in mass in the emergency rooms and they didn't really know and doctors they varied and how they approached it my friend Michael his doctor didn't put him on a ventilator and he said if I put him on a ventilator he's probably going to die because he said his body going to stop working cuz it's it's going to let the ventilator do the breathing for him it's going to give up and what he was talking about after the fact would Michaels talked about was how that is proven to be correct in New York and that some monsters number like 80% of the ventilators wine or it's like a you know there is someone on my team we were looking we're doing some research on this and I and I didn't survive into the whole thing but he was he was telling me that ventilator do actually I cause more damage to the lungs and like it like you've been reading since that he's too like confirm that he was pretty certain that the ventilators actually cause damage and actually could induce damage where it's like making it worse so that's so bad now I don't know the specifics they're so f***** up by the time I get on the ventilator they just want to dine right that the there's been some really interesting data looking at like in the stairs on the Philippines and Indonesia or else as well they've looked at patients that have died and their vitamin D levels and been bitten basically like in the Philippines you know people that for like every standard deviation increase in vitamin D what's your vitamin D levels you know the people had like an 8% or were Eightfold 8 times less likely to have a severe form of covid-19 and if they had and they were 20 times less likely to have critical critical form of covid-19 in the Philippines in the Indonesia was a really interesting study where like they measured vitamin D in this is measured in the patient there's been some vitamin D studies also over there like looking at you know what countries that infected the worse and they always have low vitamin D and it's like okay well anyways that the correlation but also is this but a little stronger data the in the in Indonesia patients that died 90 of Almost 100% 98 point something percent of patients that died with covid-19 vitamin D deficient 4% of patients that died from covid-19 vitamin D fish 4% only 4% we're fighting vitamin D sufficient so basically they're all vitamin D deficient all the ones that are dying crazy right and that New Orleans had some crazy crazy number third less than blood levels less than 30 milligrams nanograms per milliliter actually if you're exposed to us on a daily basis that's the best way to get it but the problem is we don't go outside anymore and you know I'm even more deficient you know like like someone like 28% of the US population is actually deficient like less than 20 nanograms per millimeter like that's Define deficiency so it is a lot of people in the United States as you mentioned you make it from the Sun so particularly UVB radiation there's a reason why I want to talk about this you make it from UVB radiation exposure you know basically your skin and but you know there's certain times of the year depending on where you live and where Northern latitude where that UVB I'm making vitamin D also if you have darker skin melanin protects you like the whole you know people with darker skin people from maybe Africa or India or South Asia there more equatorial Regent there closer you know closer to the Equator and there's more UVB radiation throughout the year and so as a protective mechanism to not get burned you have melanin which protects you write the problem is is that melanin also block your your ability to produce vitamin D but if you're out in the sun all the time you know in a place where you're getting UVB radiation it's not a problem with this is the very reason why people and places like Scotland and England have such pale skin exactly cloudy all the time so your body to sort of developed its own ability to absorb more vitamins from from South Asia from India from Africa and you put them in Sweden or in Minnesota that were in the UK a place where UVB radiation doesn't hit most of the year and you don't give them a supplement happens if they become severely vitamin D deficient severely and what happens when you take I mean you can throw this on the you can flip flip this over and say okay what happens when you take the guy from the UK the bread and put them in Australia like without any sunscreen or without a hat or no so African Americans aren't there's lots of African-Americans there are in the United States has been studies African-Americans are severely deficient or 28 times more deficient in vitamin D than than caucasians I'm out in the sun all the time inside all the time when school work in an office cubicle for the CDC in obviously there's been studies showing that African-Americans in Moorhead but they didn't really correct for tons of like other factors cuz socioeconomic status is important help other health factors you know and but there was a big said he just released not long ago from from like the national office of Statistics in Britain or something like that I don't know what their official name was but they release some statistics from England and Wales and the I don't know what the correct name to say I'm in the black they're basically living in England and Wales are four times more likely to die of covid-19 than than white when they swim they're just all that data for socioeconomic status and four other health factors there were two times more likely to die so clearly socioeconomic status and other health factors are playing something else and identified and I vitamin D I think that you know so you know the vitamin D like it hasn't looked vitamins I'm not saying that vitamin D is going to prevent you from getting covid-19 or is it treatment although I am involved in a clinical study we're going to be testing that's very small open on Saturday we can talk about but you know I'm not a position in a medical doctor I've never intimated anyone so don't think I'm saying that I don't want people thinking it's a hypothesis that needs to be tested and thankfully there are Clinic files randomized control trials that are now ongoing and there's some that are recruiting but what's the statistics that you've already listed about vitamin D and the people that have had covid-19 those are insane there's a huge population of somalis that have migrated to Sweden and they have been identified as being severely vitamin D deficient because a lot of the somalis evolved they're also like autism rates are really high there and there's a link between a Polish peeling off at between Indian autism but so there's been studies looking at vitamin D levels in the Somali population I mean they are so deficient because you're taking again you're taking someone who's supposed to be who you know evolve to be getting a lot of sun but not burn from it and then and then putting them in a place where they they can't get any Vitamin D from the Sun and if they don't get a supplement like they're going to be deficient you know and there was so much more like they're they're like it's it's wreaking havoc and Sweden on this that is so logical it's it's it's insanely more deficient I forgot the exact number obese also obese people are like three times more likely to be. Vitamin deficient the United States because vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin and it's less it's been shown to be 50% less bioavailable so you have to skin it stored in fat and you know it's released when you know basically gets converted into a hormone this hormone regulates 5% more than 5% of the protein encoded Human Genome with a lot of the hormone testosterone your man I mean like there's a lot of people that are deficient in vitamin D and it's a steroid hormone is converted into a hormone like this isn't just a vitamin you know it's important it's really important so I went off on a tangent but anyways ask you this boy wear off in the Skagit what is what is happening to people when they are vitamin D like what's happening in the vitamin D deficient what is happening in the body that's causing their immune system this this hormone deficiency not having this vitamin D weather through sun exposure do stuff that you know regulate immune function you know there's there studies that have shown people and I love these studies because because they basically take away the people's complaints about you know there's lots of epidemiological studies showing that low vitamin D is associated with disease X Y or Z and everyone's like it's at the end of the day Association right in everyone's like correlation is not causation which is true but sometimes you got to like look at the full body of data you know there are genetic polymorphism so so there are people that have variations in genes that cause them to genetically have lower vitamin D and so this this is called Roman Delia randomization when you can take a person that's that has a genetically like it stood there genetically low vitamin D so you're not categorizing them based on their vitamin D levels your categorizing them based on their Gene and no people are more likely to die from respiratory infections just based on that Gene alone so that Gina is known to lower it lower it leads to lower by Mindy levels and so like those people are more likely to die from respiratory infections and people that don't have that which that's a great way of kind of randomizing people by their genes as opposed to doing a randomized control trial those have been done as well there was a study that was over 25 randomized control trials people that were given a vitamin D supplement during doses either week Dior daily monthly didn't work there the people with low Baseline vitamin D levels of people that were like deficient they were 50% less likely to have a respiratory tract infection if they were taking the vitamin D supplement or 50% actually and people that had already normal levels still had a protective effect there's look 10% less likely so even people that were already considered normal taking a biotin vitamin D supplement helped prevent the respiratory tract infection can the rights of the tolerable upper intake has been set by the nutrition for advanced medicine to be $4,000 a day but there's been studies that have shown that you can I mean people that have taken you know 10,000 I use a day for for multiple years haven't had any hypercalcemia or had you no problems but too much vitamin D can be toxic it's not good to take that best of luck get a vitamin D blood test and I think that personally there has been a trend so people that have blood levels higher than 60 may have just a little bit higher calcium level but not much not like it's not like anything to be hugely concerned about but there are studies also showing that either vitamin K1 so there's been a meta-analysis looking at 12 different studies or think we're vitamin K1 or vitamin K2 were given and both of those improve bone mineral density and prevented any hypercalcemia cuz when you take vitamin D you absorb calcium better like something crazy like 40% more dietary calcium themes or so the problem is is that calcium can easily form a precipitate in general and particular phosphorus is around and phosphorus is another thing vitamin D increase the absorption up but again like I said that you know it's real like it's real hard to find any studies where vitamin D is causing you know hypercalcemia unless it's like really really high dose for for a while I personally think taking the vitamin K what's interesting about the vitamin K1 vs. vitamin K2 with without going into too much of a tangent is basically the vitamin K1 normally it goes to your liver and it's involved in blood coagulation but when there's enough vitamin K1 around the periphery and it moves calcium prefer being bloodstream it moves Kelsey how do I trim it takes it to places where it's supposed to go with the bones in the muscle vitamin K2 usually stays around the proofreading it doesn't really go to the liver so it uses that's usually what it's just doing is you know moving calcium out and bringing it the bones and I actually have K1 my multi that I take but I also take a K2 supplement MK4 I take it like a couple times a week and what would a lot so I'm getting a lot of K1 vitamin K2 is not as it's not as readily found in like the Western I mean it's like the food that's high as soon is that fermented sweeping my toe but it's like a small quantities of oxalates or getting kidney stones messed up you know so I am not concerned at all like even like the oxalates oxalates actually I don't want to go into this but they have no I don't consider vitamin D thing is so important to me like that the the reason there's a big reason I think that vitamin D is so important it's for the lung function in the respiratory function but what's really interesting is that you know the the very receptor that this passage Coast-to-Coast virus binds to to gain entry into the cell to call Ace too. Very receptor plays a really important role in preventing lung damage and and basically in preventing acute lung injury preventing acute respiratory distress syndrome ards and what's been shown with stars Cove one is that one also binds to the receptor a stew is called patches in my food is like weird and. Cytosis mechanism it takes the receptor in and decreases the receptor was called down-regulate downregulates receptors you end up having less as to which causes like can cause severe lung injury with not having a Stewie plays a big role in protecting that cinchona multiple studies like so the Stars Cove one virus does that it's thought that goes to the same receptor and it's been shown that like if you for example if you give mice lipopolysaccharide or something that's going to cause lung injury and then you give them vitamin D to the lung injury itself also causes the taste receptor to decrease and it was like this vicious cycle of like making the damage worse but if you give my vitamin D before that happens they stew receptor increases and it protects them from the lung injury but you give vitamin D to control mice that don't have the long injury it doesn't do anything to the east 2 receptor levels so it's not like. it's not like you no drugs the way drugs are designed as they like the target molecule in the boom they like do their thing they either increase or decrease it a lot of times with like hormones you know vitamins things like that there they maintain homeostasis you know what I mean. When she goes wrong they fix it they're not just like boom. Going to Like increase something when everything's normal so and that's important because there's been some concern about taking vitamin D creasing H2 receptor and there's another study that was with hypertensive rats where the hypertension cause Ace to go down in that like makes long and it makes all sorts of problems it also causes a kidney problems and other things right but but the vitamin D increase the A's to but only in the habitats of rats not in the normal control again so you know and then there was another study that was like some other messed up diabetic animal model where the vitamin D actually didn't increase the h2r increase was called soluble Ace to which is in like it's in the periphery and that actually potentially could bind starscove to buy hours and prevent it from it's like sequestering it preventing you from entering the cell that's actually being explored as a potential therapeutic so the bottom line here is that sometimes you'll hear this H2 receptor and that's how the virus gets in and I don't want that is always way more complicated just a simple taking it out of a big picture right you know so like the H2 receptor that is too is part of the renin-angiotensin system it plays a huge role in inflammation it's also like when you when you decrease a stew all these signals signaling Cascades happen and it it's like a stews important for producing pro-inflammatory cytokines at the end of the day without getting into all the stuff you know specifics so it causes massive inflammation to have a decreased it basically causes acute lung injury dr. Bates it I mean it's crazy so I really I just I really can you imagine if item indeed really did help like if it if there was something that could be given along with the other stuff from Days of yore whatever whatever it's going to be the stuff that we identify but like vitamin D so so cheap it's so easy and so many people are deficient and insufficient you know like so yes as you mentioned there is you know you don't want to take too much vitamin D you don't want to like you know over on it but I think in the short-term you know particularly like in the short-term and in particular patient to take people that have already been infected you know it may be wise to to to try giving your patient like if your deposition you know dealing with this maybe maybe wise to try and didn't see their vitamin D levels and perhaps give him some you know drug remedies potential vaccine to work on the future I'm not hearing anything about methods nutrition that boost your immune system this is one of the reasons why I really wanted to talk to you right now that are looking looking at Vitamin D effects of vitamin D on already knew no patience with covid-19 which what would be great is like giving them to First Responders are healthcare workers and seeing like how does it how does it what it what role does it play in prevention cuz that's really the easiest thing right I'm involved a friend of mine dr. Eric Gordon he he's put together so I kind of with his help I've helped him design open arm trial very small 40 patients where were or he is going to be giving them 50000 I use every 5 days of vitamin D classical weekly dose because a lot of times these people are severely deficient so you want to give him a higher dose you know and and throwing you know doing doing 50000 I use weekly isn't you know something that's going to be toxic and then we're going to three times a day and then as well but so yeah there are right we got this business so I think vitamin D really is the is the star you know I think that if potentially you know I think it really should be explored I think it has huge potential it has to be shown like this isn't something that people can just you know take it home and think I'm protected like that is not the case we don't know that let me know because there's no date of showing that but I think it has huge potential you know so I said seems like in addition to their going to in addition to standard of care whatever the standard of care is and that's that's what is happening at the Huntington Hospital in in New Jersey but before they get it yeah I would love to see that how to get the information out there and have Nursery nurses and First Responders take it I mean you know vitamin D is something again like 70% of US population is insufficient levels you know that is such a crazy number it is like $4,000 a day it is mm bullets me to I got one pill it's $5 and measured literally like I did went a lot to quest Quest Labs like a month before all this lockdown happened so I got my data back pretty pretty recent and I still have around 50 nanograms per mil even though before I was taking 4000 it's generally speaking 1000 I use will raise your blood levels by about 5 nanograms per milliliter different variations in jeans that are related to vitamin D metabolism work they have lower levels need a higher dose the only way you're going to know that is 5 course measuring your vitamin D level three times and then potentially been doing like a genetic analysis you know as well but you have to measure levels like that's the only way to know for sure right now it's like you can't go it's like hard to do any of that like I just I have so much I have high hopes for it you know and maybe maybe I'm a bit enthusiastic with it you know I do like I've studied vitamin D so much I forgot to Publications on I certainly like you know you said so you did you know they're take that with a grain of salt as well but I just think that they had strong I really think the date I think it's a mounting data and I think that eventually something will come out and it's going to just like the randomized control trials showing that it protects against respiratory tract infections believe anything until it's amazed that the numbers of people that have deficient it's so stunning and when you point out the number of people that are deficient that actually wind up having severe covid-19 problems the anyways I mean you know so of course I want to believe it you know but like interesting study were African-American to our very deficient in vitamin D they were given a vitamin D supplement for like a month and it it decrease their epigenetic age by like two years I mean yeah I think it was a mud most must be about a month Yeah Yeah by 1.8 year so what it was indicative of their suffering from this vitamin D deficiency this alleviates that's offering and then put the body in homeostasis can you imagine it's like what happens when you go into menopause well you're not making your estrogen I mean stuff goes wrong I mean it's a hormone like estrogen estrogen hormone you know hormone for preventive symptoms of covid-19 or preventative measures dealing with covid-19 that's your base I take vitamin D I certainly don't know if it's going to prevent covid-19 but went like you can't like it's something they have to be motivated to make the change themself or just otherwise it doesn't work you know so I think that in this case people are motivated especially people in my parents generation that are older because they're they're more scared they're more scared that they could be affected by a severe let me know case of this right so so I think that's the certainly you know the issue but in this case people are motivated especially people in my parents generation that are older because they're they're more scared they're more scared that they could be affected by a severe let me know case of this right so so I think that's the certainly you know the issue

thanks for being here I really appreciate it I am super always happy to come well we've been talkin and we've been talkin about immune systems in this is one of the main things that I wanted to talk to you about like one of the strictest all we're hearing is shelter-in-place wear masks don't touch anybody don't go outside we're not hearing what can you do to strengthen your immune system and I think that as a public health a public service you know a health thing this is what are most important things that I think you can really focus and concentrate on and it an actual thing that you could be proactive about during this weird time focusing on lifestyle factors that you can you know possibly modulate your immune system and strengthen it is is important what's interesting is that the immune system after doing just so much of course the past couple of months I've been nothing but like trying to understand horses new virus are Coke to but I've just learned so much you know a lot the past couple of months and not an immunologist and not an infectious disease expert so in a while I've had some training and Immunology I definitely didn't know don't know everything there is to know but what you know doing some reading about like why are people immune system so different like that decline I mean there's lots of changes that occur but like in general like people have different immune systems and what's interesting is that there's been tons of like genetic studies done on my you know identical twins and their followers over time and was found is that genetics is not the major regulator of immune function it's something in the environment this is what surprised me and it's not totally it going to answer your question but we can totally get to that but the main one of the main things besides age that regulates immune system previous exposure to viruses like so I thought that was really interesting in particular one one virus this idle medic megavirus DMV between 50 to 80% of the US population has it like by the time they're like an adult has it permanently or well yeah unless you're immunocompromised but most people that are healthy they don't know we know that they're infected with it and say it again what is a good cytomegalovirus CMV there it is so almost 80% right and it changes the immune function is totally different between young and old so so when you're younger and if you have it it actually enhances immune function so there's they've done studies were like they they they have given people influenza vaccine and often times he's vaccine studies are used to kind of test the immune response and like how your the vaccines you know pieces of an antigen are all different types of Fino ways that you can you can expose someone to bacteria or virus but you have a response to it and the responses of you know involves your adaptive immunity is called neutralizing antibodies that basically eventually buying to the virus and neutralize it prevented from entering the cell so people that have CMV their young have a really robust response to the vaccine much better but people have the complete opposite where it's like you know delete aerius and the reason for that scientists think is because basically this virus it's stuck with you lifelong and and kind of reactivates every few years and like every time it reactivate it kind of trains your T cells mature part of your immune system to to become focused on that CMV and so as you get older your your T-cell population becomes more focused on fire virus unless so on other viruses that you're exposed to but there's a virus doesn't have any symptoms most healthy people don't have any symptoms with it it's really weird so what I'm wondering and the reason I'm even like going here at nothing to do with you taking vitamin C or zinc and we can talk about that stuff but I just thought it was so damn interesting because we are all these stories in the news where you know some people are asymptomatic some people are you know and some people are just really getting a hard hit and and these people let's say they're more agematch right we know that elderly people are more prone to a severe form but it just made me think what if you know previous previous viral exposure to something like CMP is is kind of like also kind of shaping people's immune responses in some way surely people are going to be looking looking at that but I just thought that was a really interesting thing to come across you know and then the other sort of on the same same lines as previously in a previous virus exposure is like something that really seems to be something that is a main regulator of how people like what how your ramune you know what your immune response is you know and so some of the flu how many times you've I mean if you if you get a sample like they're spending these zero surveys where they basically that just means they both didn't get get a sample of plasma and look for different antibodies viral antibodies and we'll find it any given points a person has liked antibodies against 10 different viruses just randomly you know so you're constantly being exposed to viruses you don't you're not always kind of thing is like you know there's to the Stars code to virus is part of a family of of coronavirus is called the beta coronavirus has soaked Stars Cove one than the virus that was responsible for the original Source outbreak in 2002 or something the Mariners won in the Middle East and then there's two different ones that are responsible for the common cold now coronavirus of common cold cases so it's not like but what's interesting is that there's been studies showing that these two beta coronavirus that are responsible for some of the common cold cross-react with so there's one that cross-react with the Stars code 1H has a very it's very the sequence is very homologous to tsarskoe to virus and it's also been show that The Stars 2012 antibodies against the Stars covid-19 can neutralize the the common cold one is like cross community happening between these other viruses right and so there's been some Studies by the CDC on Starz Cove to where they found basically that people that are infected with starve Sarge Cove to also boosts their antibodies against the the common cold one so you know there's they're certainly I think a good hypothesis to be made that potentially you know one or two of these common cold viruses could antibodies you make against them could also somehow maybe maybe you know interact with the sarge Cove to buy respect and realize it I mean that's a big open question that seems possible without we don't have an answer to that I think we will like there's large there's a large-scale zero surveys being done I know at least three that I think his name is dr. Michael Bush he's at UCSF he's like he's doing large surveys were there their they're going to be analyzing the seraphim people from we need blood donors and stuff and like Following over the course of several years to see you know that the space you understand more so what is the speculation if there's any sort of uniform speculation as to why you want to hear about prisons where a lot of these prisoners why don't know if you seen that there's a video going around where one prisoner had Stars Cove to covid-19 whatever and spitting into a cop and then passing it around to all these other inmates so they can get it so that they get released so these cuz they're releasing people especially California which is so wacky they releasing sex offenders and there's been some really high-profile releases of these horrible people that should be in jail probably forever and they're releasing him just like it it's really disturbing but what would cause other than something like that what would cause all these prisoners to not just be positive that make sense but to all be asymptomatic any speculation as to why these large group there was another one that was a meat packing plant where most of the people are asymptomatic as well I wasn't I wasn't aware of in Meatpacking one being asymptomatic I did read about the one in prison and it was like blowing my mind like what there's asymptomatic so there was a study done at the CDC I don't know a month ago maybe a little more where they they measured like they did it they did the nasopharyngeal swab test and in a nursing home 70 something people and 13 of them tested asymptomatic like they had no symptoms but they tested positive but then they went back a week later and 10 of those people had symptoms and three Dre symptomatic so and less like there's another like if you test someone and their asymptomatic testing they could be pre-symptomatic right in other words like you have to go back a week later and see if they have symptoms because that that's really important so let's say even you know you know 60% of all time I don't know the CMV you know percentage there but what if the coronavirus is are going around there what if what if you know some some common cold coronavirus has gone around in that you know those antibodies that they made to neutralize that coronavirus via coronavirus it or somehow helping with the sarge Cove to like I would love to see that tested one of the types of vaccines to do for TB I think they do it in like Japan and some other countries where they've got a really low death rate and said they're kind of data test that's a clinical trial is now going on where they're trying to test but I was trying to figure out if there a vaccination is there I mean it's just you could go on and on and on but the whole the thing that I just think that I would like to see more research and I'm just hoping you know that that CDC another people are investigating these these other the cross and unity right like if there's out if there's antibodies that you're making against another coronavirus betta coronavirus in the same family as this arson so you know if it's 15 to 30% of the common cold is composed of coronavirus is we know at least two of those coronavirus are in the same family that have been identified to make at least in one case has been neutralizing antibodies there has been Crossing Unity then you'd think why when I test that like his get some animals that he started on that you know that they're hoping they're going to be able to because it's you can find this because of these antibodies and llamas they they they're hoping that you need to transfer them to people or learn something about how these antibodies are created but llamas seem to be a meat hair does llamas could be the key to fighting new coronavirus has research says or make that larger it says it may sound bizarre animals but llamas can be the key to fighting new coronavirus research from Belgium remember this a baby lady that are showing you earlier she's a health lady and the United States publish an article this week in the journal cell that highlights the potential use of llama antibodies to prevent covid-19 infections antibodies from a four-year-old Belgian llama named winter show promise in blocking coronavirus from infecting cells according to research from the University of texas-austin the National Institutes of Health and the Gent gent g h e n t e study early forms of the coronavirus is research has found an antibody in Winter that effectively attached itself in neutralize Spike protein in Stars Cove one and murderers Cove body which has been found in other llamas as well can be injected into an uninfected individual to protect them from getting infected with the new coronavirus that's very interesting addition to like repurposing drugs monoclonal antibodies you know being able to basically identify antibodies that do neutralize Stars CO2 virus whether they come from llamas or Humans Ain't You know and basically identify the specific antibody that can bind to that Spike protein that you just mentioned which is that region is known that the antibodies bind their neutralize it's also the region that that is used to get inside of the cell so monoclonal antibody I think are really big you no possibility for a promising therapeutic because you can then I'm in the problem is growing like large scallop manufacturing them right so like if you can identify these antibodies and then manufacture them you can inject them in people and then potentially get some protection the problem is is that that's not going to like it's going to be short-lived protection like it's going to be it's not like you can does not like a vaccine or your body is making its own antibodies and their and they're more longer lived but in areas where people going to expose perhaps you could give it to them it would stop them from getting but how long we say short-lived if you are healthcare worker people that are definitely like being exposed to large doses of the virus that that could be a promising area but also I think even just treating patients like that about infected you know so that's that's also another so it's like in combination with some of this other stuff like from Days of yore which is you know it's not like a silver bullet but it seems like it's also promising promising probably with combination of other other factors as well but yeah the moment monoclonal antibodies is a really I know there's like regeneron's a big company there their they're growing some large-scale ones I think there is a isolated from Human Rights mice or something but there's other companies out of eyesight humans have been affected so you know that's that's definitely a promising area for sure and it's a good thing about that is that have you heard of antibody-dependent enhancement to know so that's a big concern so basically when you when your body is exposed to a pathogen like a virus your your innate immune system you know the first line of defense like neutrophil things like that are making hydrogen peroxide to kill the virus but then in the ground your adaptive immune system and then just totally generalizing is Torino is is also working in the background and you know part of that an Adaptive immune response is you know to produce antibodies do you have memory B cells are making antibodies that are specific to bind a different regions epitopes on the virus and neutralizing prevent them from getting inside of the cell and so that adaptive immune system usually takes about 7 days after you're exposed to the virus right the problem is antibody-dependent enhancement so sometimes a neutralizing antibody is an antibody that can bind to the virus and neutralize it stop it from entering yourself right so you're it's doing its job but you sometimes make antibodies that are non neutralizing or don't do as good of a job they don't find his height or something and then you can have what's called antibody-dependent enhancement and this was like a big problem for the RSV vaccine back in the you know most kids get RSV it's a respiratory tract infection the most kids get it by the time they're too like there's no vaccine that that aren't that's given back in the 60s there was this antibody-dependent enhancement happened in some clinical studies with toddlers and some probably got really really sick and a couple died so what happens is basically the antibody binds that there's a couple things antibody binds to the virus and can basically change its confirmation and allow the virus to get into the cells better then you become like you know you get like a higher viral load and then you don't have antibodies to neutralize it and it just you know it could be more we can lead to death the other thing that happens if the antibody binds to the virus doesn't neutralize if it it like makes us crazy immune complex that like activates your immune system to just go haywire and it costs Ellsworth pathology and that's what happened with the RSV toddlers so there's a few viruses that this happens with and unfortunately coronavirus has one like this has been identified with this one as well we're so this is also promised vaccines so like people like giving giving the vaccine people's immune response on some people can have that antibody-dependent enhancement and that's what was going to happen with these with the sarge Cove one there was some non-human primates that he's at that did that and also animal studies as well so you know Mont the thing with monoclonal antibodies is there a little more specific cuz you know they neutralized and you're like growing them turn on that test as opposed to just letting your immune system do its thing and then potentially you know you may have this like non neutralizing antibody that could cause problems but that's kind of the concern and I know that the vaccine people that work in vaccines are working on them it's like they're concerned about that completely trying to like figure that all out what thing and then potentially you know you may have this like non neutralizing antibody that could cause problems but that's kind of the concern and I know that the vaccine people that work in vaccines are working on them it's like they're concerned about that completely trying to like figure that all out

he's old boxers coming back a band Yes have you seen the Mike Tyson video really terrifying are even more exciting than his fights they were they were a cultural event oh my God so exciting that you're going to spend money and you were going to get it back look at it right funny dad on the podcast when he was in here he said he didn't want to work out again because his ego would get fired up again and he's actually said that in his post that might my ego have been reignited is that mean is Rage he said something about how the gods of War have brought him out again was like really headed to s*** at least the real recent real reason to see if you can find the quote but it was like oh my god when you were with him but I think that you knew for sure need a guy who's really good at fighting to keep them off you will now the gods of War have reawakened today and want me to go to war again great things are way different than the thyroid hormone replacement like being a 53-year old man in 1985 is no chance right everybody fell apart like you really really really rare person who doesn't take hormones and can perform like a 30 year-old ride but when you're on hormones you can kind of do it it's in use like a guy there's a few guys that were in the UFC one of the bigger examples is Vitor Belfort who's in the first he won the first tournament that I ever worked on that was at UFC 12 in 1997 so he was 19 years old back then okay and then when he was in his late 30s he had a giant resurgent and it was when they made testosterone replacement therapy legal for Fighters gastro but they had an old man's brain but it did by moved like a younger man so it's basically they had all the experience of a lifetime of fighting but because of the hormones are body actually performed like someone way way younger than that like how much longer do you think I don't know it depends on the body depends on what kind of damage you're dealing with what's wrong with you some of them needed those hormones because they have done steroids so when you do steroids it shuts down your endocrine system the endocrine system doesn't make the proper hormones anymore and so they needed it was a real weird sort of conundrum because everyone was kind of knew this but there was a weird loophole that went on for a few years was a real gray area and MMA and so say a fighter could go to the doctor and say Hey I want to get a blood test and see what my testosterone levels are because I am I'm very tired and they look at in a testicle look at this your testosterone levels are low you are you or you could take this hormone and injected into your body every week now you you're eligible for testosterone replacement therapy but the thing is they might have like the whole reason why they need in the first place might have been the date they were using it illegally are a part of this world Parts testosterone replacement therapy think they were ones that were kind of accused of possible using performance-enhancing do me a favor pull up Belfort vs Luke rockhold is that was one of the perfect examples in there fighting I don't know if it was in Brazil or what that muscles on his teeth when he's laying into that phone like it was crazy and he just Blitzkrieg and it was okay we can't do this and so damn the UFC went the whole other way and they brought in usada US anti-doping agency now handled everything they randomly test fighters in the middle of the night and all the time doody's dude f****** Vitor when he was on the trt was one of the scariest these drugs in fighting each other ideas for your health right but for fighting is a weird gray area like when when should it be legal might see some crazy he's a perfect funny maybe he's not on anything and maybe he's just out of special athlete Lord knows Herschel Walker was Herschel Walker was a guy who fought in Strikeforce after he played in the NFL and was really successful when they're 20 usually could move like that Siri is 53 moving like a World Champ throwing bombs again it's only on the pads we don't know what happens if you sparse but but still oh my God this is Leathers ever was the Marvis Frazier fight cuz it was really like an execution is Marvis Frazier also is like a really good fighter and was Joe Frazier son and you knew what was going to happen in life Frills no nothing no robe no socks no robe muscle time for or did you feel like real nice yeah I know he's real nice guy but he's he's still like that way to describe it is the perfect way to describe being around him like I just want him to like you if you want to be nice to me and you also will be cool can't believe he's here such a b**** I could feel it as a Lori are the worst he's a cultural icon be around him is like what are you real that you're right here

lady who got into it with Trump now this reporter for someone who's asked a question with a mask on was like settle down that's so crazy about how many Americans have been tested at the United States test would anybody right when the 80,000 people have died likewise as competition for you and so he says he said that you should ask China said people are dying everywhere if you want it you want to ask someone about that you should ask China and she says why did you say that specifically to me because she's Asian so and then and then it goes thank you next question someone else has Lady steps in and she was going to she was like I have a question cuz I went in and she wanted to let her talk was going to give her questions that lady president the president says next so they say Sir overhears was you because I'd like to give this question my colleague he went back to Bob and some crazy keep away game plan and you know he goes into was why you saying that specifically to make you know because she's Asian and because I'm not saying specifically to anybody I'm just saying Global competition to you if everyday Americans are still losing their lives and we're still seeing more cases everyday and maybe that's a question you should ask China don't answer me has China that question Jenga specifically to anybody I'm saying that anybody would ask a nasty question like that please go ahead OK anybody else please go ahead remove come up with ways to deal with angry substitute teacher I don't understand why it would take so little for him to have his numbers will be through the roof but this is what happens there they're playing a game right and they just won that hand is the game is talk condescending to you why is it a competition to you when all these people are dying all over the world that's a good answer but then makes it racial because it wasn't with a hardship he did China with a mask on playing by the rules anymore are you racist it is a it is a beehive of an environment there greater TV show it's watching the TV show we're not watching the adult telling us if it's going to be okay you're so right and it during a pandemic does the worst time for some s*** like that but then after 9/11 he had some speeches that made even people that I knew there were hardcore liberals that alright I love this guy I love me some Asian 211 he gave people a sense of comfort that's right Barry controls the Cincinnati people gravitate you just like okay just want to hear that you just want to go I can Juliana was the same way I brought 911 it was like okay you're making me feel better giuliani's reputation the way you handled it like a hundred percent switch keeps having these exchanges with his like heated exchanges and word gets sad and it's bizarre it's really strange went off the f****** script was talking about therapies maybe we could get some disinfection that kills it in a minute in the life reporters asking me to sarcastic he should have said look I'm not a doctor this is just an idea cuz that's really what it was it was like I wanted done that on a podcast if I was up with an idea to get when intubated people to get a ultraviolet light tubes down through that into the lungs and illuminate cuz using ultraviolet light you can kill bacteria and kill viruses and that's one of the reasons why they have those things like steripens where you go backpacking you can get some water out of a creek and you just uses Ultraviolet light kills everything inside that water I so they they actually have this bile company publicly traded company put out this video on this can be done with your account was banned from Twitter biotech company from Twitter another brought them back once was explained to them any other time in history of this was going on 10 years ago and there was a virus and the viruses infecting people being intubated we can actually stick a light through the same two but the ventilator uses and will illuminate the lungs and it actually probably kill a good deal is back to Beaver Medical breakthrough benefit that's the result of a breakdown and that's what's been so that's why it doesn't work in communist countries like you can't trust thesaurus for your information right that's what we're at in a democracy where no one can trust the sort we're all scrambling like does this one no does this one out does this was a direct result of his toxic relationship with the Press yes because people are so people who with him or so with him if people are against him or so against Jeff and it's almost like people Within part of the reason why they were against all these other whiny b**** liberal people that f****** that size is so annoying massage is so annoying he makes those people angry

is it strange when you know what's weird I've never seen anybody break in all the years I've seen fights cuz it's pretty delicate Paul dude I woke up this morning and I spent the first hour of my day watching Russian slap fighting videos of course he did it might be the dumbest thing that's going on today slap fighting yeah they just you know what it is no and they let each other slap each other in the face Adidas shoes these shoes guys and they swing from the hip and the other guy doesn't even move and they open Palm strike each other in the face I spent an hour is this new tradition I don't know makes you when you wake up think you know I'm going to look up like when you when you first pick up your device as I remembered it was as one video of a bunch of people standing around and this guy slaps guy in Cayo Tim and all the people that were standing around like a cool violent brain trauma remember there's a table or not but all the people were standing around and they were laughing and smiling while this guy went unconscious I was like that's so odd that this is a really bad so terrible things happen this guy like they think it's fine or laughing no idea what's almost like it's not real because it's slapping oh my God they be freaked out each other and everyone's like hahaha sitting on the beach if you're watching a fight what is this one here Jamie here goes one new 167 on the left is a former MMA fighter for Brazil it says oh my God this is all Russia oh my goodness why do they understand why they're looking at the powder one of the techniques would be get his ear and bring it down towards the chin do they have rules how do you ask someone is no roll of 30 minute video stop a minute oh my God thumbs up please find yes okay I close my eyes and you scared the shot out of me oh my God someone's going out keep going to set up his flight last they gave up why it was great it was good and look how you slap me I slap you play MMA I am such a successful Sportsman and I know how to fight write thank you so much for invitation it was an honor to fight against such a legend I would love to come back so apparently flew in he flew into smack smack the back and he earns respect respect when you do a spectacular put on my Instagram today because that one is due to eyes eyeballs tattooed to see if they got money for that 150000 Ruble price such a mismatch and this is a real a****** because they got this kid like force so little look at his nephew look so weird cuz he's got tattoos everywhere his eyeballs tattooed boom Amana got first of all that guy looks like he's never even punch someone the way he did it was scary he's like a little kid his looks like a skater kid take down of it put put up Robin blacks from his Instagram because he had some great lines in it shirtless Steve and now Indian activity will bind the hips Rob and Blac my friend in this video real actual fights he's a martial arts he did a bad news kill Saul it's going to beat the murder hornet mapping the outer curve Kung Fu mantis stays Beyond and behind stinging distance murder Hornets simply cannot inject his Venom dining on murder Hornet Hornet continue forward still alive I don't know if I feel good that murder Hornets can get schooled or that pray mantises both things we need to just make more mattresses and relieve some of these f****** p**** ass motor Hornets

what were you just saying Jamie we have LA's stay-at-home order it will likely remain in place for the next 3 months unless there is a quote dramatic change to the virus and tools at hand officials to say how are people supposed to feed themselves like really realistically how do they expect this to work you go out to work and then you get her back home work yeah but at the same time they're opening up businesses and you have to get curbside for retail I heard our governor in the state of California say that 70% of businesses are open now well if that's the case even if they're open they're not open at 100% capacity or they're probably working from home like offices he's probably counting offices and those people are still working getting paid what they're doing it from home to this is just lalalala someone in the health department talking at a supervisor meeting or something so is a suggestion wasn't a non-official in America have a bat yeah New York City's the thing about New York City that makes it great is it everybody sort of mangles together everybody gets on the subway together everybody walks together on the streets it's also the reason why everybody about the reasons for New York and he lives in New York and he said Staten Island have the highest number this was written before I think Brooklyn is now edged it but at the time the Staten Island was the highest and it was the least densely populated and Manhattan which is the most densely populated had the fewer number of cases together in prisons it's not that at all right that's weird. What do you think this is because my friend Kyle kulinski he was like I think it's because their immune systems are strong cuz they're just interacting with each other constantly and I was like that kind of makes sense if you're in prison bad food and yet your immune system strong right cuz you just being bombarded all the time people who are isolated fancy place and it gets stronger yeah so your immune system right now is being put into a state of atrophy because it's not being exposed to anything new it's it's it's in a lounge chair we're setting ourselves up to get really sick if something comes down the pipe was very strange in the beginning of all this when people are saying that you you know the people just found out you can't do anything for your immune system you can't make it stronger I know it's got a hundred fifty thousand likes this is got to be real it is Bob said it it's just I don't understand it's going to be I don't think it's going to be like what it was in April and May why not July because I reopen May 13th yes but you can't hang out we're sitting on the sand right canopies coolers are picnicking right you can that you can be active if you can go swimming or closed Park individual family activities and exercise only circle with a slash through it with a giant canopies those should be banned all year have you ever been next underselling Beach fences you set it up you stick in the sand and you mark off your area 25 people hate it reopens tomorrow is what they're saying yeah baby that's good I think we need to quarantine people that are at risk that's what I think really let people make their own choices you know what this the idea that these hospitals are going to be overwhelmed is not true correct were very fortunate and either so and then also if that doctor that work with Michael yeah I was telling you this before we started the doctor said that if you put him on a ventilator he would die because his body would stop trying to breathe and it would just sort of give up and this is Michael Yo's. told him and he he survived and then we're finding out that a lot of people they put on ventilator don't make it and I wonder if what he saying applies to those people is a special case of why they didn't want him on the ventilator nose doctors just a Wise Guys just smart and just figured it out Queens it was horrible what would have the results have been the question would we have achieved places that did something fared much better than the places that didn't the end result was you know all these people died it goes through the same amount of time but just you have a lot more fatalities you know and it's this it's always been this kind of calculation like you know people are doing the math I feel like people are doing the math and they're saying okay x amount will die but we've got to get back to work and get these people to work and they're trying to figure out that equation or this is suffering of the people that are probably going to I'll even if they get it is that suffering going to be greater than the suffering for families who lose people right so that's that Balancing Act and you can see where people are coming out on it certain places for like now it's just time to go and yeah they'll be casualties but we'll deal and other people are saying save lives at all cost things that are risk this is one of those things that's a uniquely human problem because there's no real answer for it cuz most human problems risk and we're allowed to make those decisions not allowed to make those decisions any ideas will because you put others at risk on crime but who and why and do you know when do we decide like how long can we go on with this if we don't have any new Tools in July what is going to be the difference between July and now and you need to be prepared to with testing and stuff to to deal with this in the right way or else you're back to what we were dealing with in April and May and that you've got to be you got to learn from of it and be prepared into the testing the testing the test just opened up his Factory in California the Tesla Factory and said come to come arrest me right violation of civil liberties are not allowed to go to work and that this is seeing I mean but you also are looking at the books every day and realizing that your state is in need of a trillion dollars to survive like it would be mean it might be a lot more than yeah like you know it's just based on what we know is active and the businesses that are open right now how many people are unemployed right now falling apart so you're in this in this spot I do not envy it it's all so when you start telling people what to do is very difficult to stop once you have the ability to tell people what to do it's very difficult to just turn that off and go God go back to normal do whatever you want to do now f****** Preposterous is really long list the California put out of things you're allowed to do outside you can meditate if you can do this off and martial arts you can watch the sunrise and the sunset meets it's just so you're getting people in this case you're getting people that have no business telling people what to do stupid f****** list and its really offencive it is a weird thing that's f****** dumb one particular list and how Preposterous it is a bunch of different states I'm just walking running exercising surfing fishing no chairs sunbathing sitting in chairs group sports groups of people swimming and here's what he says here you go no chairs because we are saving lives high fives all around ocnj that's New Jersey right yeah yeah yeah high fives all around ocnj that's New Jersey right yeah

Texas is Buckwild bro to bring a gun until 2022 or some s*** like that I might chat yeah I'm not kidding yeah I'm not kidding this is silly I don't need to be here the only reason why I'm here is that I'm close to be like you write a lot of my friends live here in stores here but they won't let us do the store we could do stand-up other places why would we stay here I don't know man Austin I like Austin a lot I like Dallas a lot but yeah I don't know if I live in Houston got brutal down spray trying to read through this I think they're starting with 25% of listed occupancy call calendar update yeah find out what's going on 50% when that point is reached so they're not there yet I've got to I'm supposed to do Portland crazy when are your doing the Improv in Houston Savage 220 30th how many people are allowed to be in the audience how many people in the crowd what is the normal capacity yes it's 450 people it says yeah 444 the seats in Congress what's going on I don't understand why would you think would be about that is there a absentee ballots in this in this state I guess they've asked for a number of reasons that I mean that. Seems like a ridiculous thing to eat for something you already have winning I think it's probably more of a liability thing if they're worried about if they make a decision and somehow it gets connected to a larger amount of deaths you know cuz he's people get paid while this is all going on like they are not the people that own the small businesses there not yeah where we moving where we moving to Texas talked about it on the podcast that the average age that people die from this disease is older than the average age people die and that they're moving forward with stages so the next stage will be Jim's and they're going to have certain disinfection salons things like that they're going to have to have a certain rules and plays hand sanitizer things along those lines if they choose to be quarantined because they're still scared of it that's what I think can you ask him if he if I can open for and I would be called person responsibilities and all that stuff we're not dealing with that I don't know what Eric Garcetti is doing I just don't get it poppin what's open for you he's here right now and what's open for you in May call you your workshop I'll call you after I love you buddy

I want to get off me but like how how was that spacing at this venue for you during a fight cuz it cuz it sounded like you were next to each other then I heard like it in Astoria or separate it we are about as far as Jamie is about as far as John antiquas and then DC was like a little further than that because there was a separation if there's a like the Octagon post and so for him to get a better angle you couldn't be sitting right in front of the post so they moved his table like another he was probably 15-20 feet from me somewhere around that were people do you feel that I feel like fighter you do Fighters a tough you know and I feel like an audience is tough to in the people associated with his tough did they move around freely or was it really like all I need to stay away from you or everyone was tested everyone in fact one guy tested positive he was asymptomatic Jacare Souza who was on the card and he had an inkling that he might have positive cuz he had a family member that I had it and he was super healthy ready to fight but had it in system and so they removed him from the card and he had been wearing a mask and gloves entire time he was there and everyone else had wristbands on The Wristband showed that you've been tested they had temperature monitors had all these different things but everybody had been tested thoroughly tested for antibodies tested for this why I got the swab up the nose I got everything done so and then when I got home I immediately got swapped again I got a swab yesterday and then I got the vitamin drip and every stop I didn't get much sleep Saturday night cuz I was flying back 8 in the morning fights were done I was back my hotel route 230 so I crashed woke up early got to the airport took off landed and then just kind of took it easy yesterday but until I got the vitamin drip I was dragging I was feeling but then that's what happens when you fly and you'd flown a couple of times ever. Time and then that drive to Vegas all that stuff you have to think of your immune system like troops you know you really do if there's a battle to be fought your your it look of your body was like your mom's where you know you had a good night sleep every night no traveling you can fight off a lot more s*** but when you do those trips especially this is one thing that I'm getting out of this quarantine his man I feel so much better when I don't travel oh yeah how much better when I wasn't dying I feel great I feel great now yeah rest is a big thing is everything everything and you know I'm going to change my travel schedule in the future cuz even this trip this triple I want to just get in to get the f*** out of Florida and get back home and you know but then after I did it I was like it would been wiser if I left at like 6 p.m. or something like that like just kind of chill out to sleep sleep so I'm fully recovered and then you know have some breakfast then go to the airport I'll take a 3 p.m. flight or some s*** how was it with nobody in there did you enjoy the experience I wanted to do it because I've never done that before I don't watch the one card from Brazil they had to Kevin Lee vs Charles Oliveira fought in Brazil and I watched on TV outside, that's so strange cuz like Gilbert Burns he knocked out Demian Maia and then he yells out and why is that so strange he's screaming and there's no one there there's no no audience reaction my so I got to do one so when Dana White asked me if I wanted to do it all. Yeah I want to do one I definitely want to do you feel like the fighters were listening to go see set okay I can reach up and touch the Octagon so when a little bit further than we usually are but still like what what devices he was saying in the commentary is the adjustments that she made that's great that was weird you know I love watching like a I watch the prelims but I loved it because you could hear everything because normally so loud yeah but when somebody hit somebody in the face you can hear it but specially the body yeah UFC where I think a lot of people appreciate it more with not having a crowd yet where you really get to feel the pain you don't you see somebody fall but you don't really loud but when you hear it about a wild finish in front of a packed house at the T-Mobile Arena that that's a factor that's a real thing like there's something magical about a wild finish in front of a packed house at the T-Mobile Arena walk to the octagon and everybody's going crazy they just something to that it's valuable

long does it take you to research to us you know I did this partly while I was at a day gig so I'm not really sure probably three or four years something like that there isn't as much as you would think it's because it and in the reason is I mean there's a fair amount and it's all in Texas which is good but there's a one curious thing about writing about Native Americans is that they don't they didn't write anything down so so if you're writing about say Winston Churchill and you can track him from like his bath in the morning to his 7th note to ask what in his note to ask with two to his notes to his wife to all of his proceedings in Parliament and everything you ever did it's like Moment by moment you take someone like wanna out on the Plains and you've got pretty much nothing is so what you have what you do have are flashes that are seen by say the Spanish originally or the French or Mexicans or Texans and Americans they come to your ear seeing them in flashes as they're presented to because there are no Parish records there's no legal records there's no interviews there's no things like that that sucks. It's about where they are today in 2019 this idea that they don't have really reservation or specific giant chunk of land is theirs they serve Preserve at least some of this history ya know it's it was way because there are other states as we talked about earlier whoever do we have large large reservations to this day but yeah so it's it's so and when you get if you're writing about them when you get to the post reservation. So let's say into the 1880s and 1890s the world does change in terms of things are being written down quantity you know Quanah becomes a big part of this society's setting up cattle leasing deals he's School Board I mean he he does all these things that you know that you wouldn't necessarily think a glorious chief of the Comanches would do but he does those things in and those are very tractable I mean you know exactly what he's doing and you can research them in the in conventional ways I was fascinated by the Peyote rituals to normal part of Comanche life or is it something that he adopted from other tribes are going to the Border in the Mexican border but if he became the founder of the Navy American Church which had a Peyote ritual in which he and it became famous for it so there was there was this great place I would really like to go back to in American history would be to cuantas house Corona got his Cattlemen buddies to build a new personal he wanted the US government to build in the house cuz coronavirus Muffler and can I please have a house I say 500 square feet double porch with these giant white stars in the roof it became known as status house right there that's star house is falling down but they're it now but yes and its Heyday it looked really exists to this day it doesn't it's about to fall down and they found a guy who lives in cash or Lawton Oklahoma and who doesn't who has been unwilling to accept help or money from everybody from the Comanche Nation tonight is always have the stars of yeah yeah I did because he he saw that us generals had these stars and their colors and he wanted he wanted but more than they had and but that's that's that's that's there in Cache Oklahoma and I've been in it but it's gotten so beat up now that they they don't let you go in and anymore Bill 95 if you went there and it would have been one of the most amazing scenes we had people like Geronimo coming to dinner Roosevelt came to dinner with Nelson miles to Graceland located dinner he had a I think it was a Swiss Mexican cook he had Six Wives he had 19 to 21 children 19 who grew to adulthood the house is full of kids it would have been surrounded by lodges in the reason it would have been as cuz people his own tripod come in at 4 help you money or pay for a funeral or Ouroboros going back to the peyote peyote ritual she's a he virtual and see you would have seen one of the great scenes in the American West then and people went when he died in 1911 people found out that he'd given most of his money away to all these people who come in asking for his help and in fact help them and given most of his cattle ranching money away that he had made now this house is owned by one individual yes on soap but but it's a historical landmark and no one's Preserve details of it but it sounds by Wayne Gibson and his sister as far as I know still and they've owned it for a while they don't want any help it was that house was put into an amusement park years ago to preserve it that was owned by Wayne's Uncle as far as I know he's so when can a part it was was it taken apart I don't know they didn't move it though so this is not the original location where the original location was out on what turned out to be later to be at Fort Sill Gunnery artillery range and so they they moved it and so cuantas the daughter I guess it was moved it down into cash and then it was move one more time into this amusement park literally that when I went into this amusement-park it was like something out of it I don't know what Spielberg movie I mean you go I was told the house was back there and I couldn't really believe it but so we go in and you're going by these defunct old and roller coasters that are all overgrown with vines like Sleeping Beauty's castle you know and and there's his cows everywhere and and rise and carousels all grow all overgrown and then you go through a series of houses that were also moved there like Frank James's house or something and keep going keep going in the back there that thing was the house was sitting there wow it is his he owns it he's been approached as I said by all sorts of different people Consortium of people with money who want to buy it or or just save it you know from literally the Comanche Nation I know who has wanted to and Texas Tech as and some Dallas people and then a number people and so did that to my knowledge that's far he refuses to sell or or to take their help is that him right there with him you're going up the main stairwell there was a 4 foot by 6 inch hole in the main in in the roof above the main stairwell when you can't really have a 4 foot by 6 inch hole dumb replace the wood is it still the same house like there's arguments about boats found some ancient boats and they've done some rebuilding of these boats now also you looking at new wood in the shape of this old boat like what is it is it what is it if I tell you the first time I walked in there which was 15 years ago you wouldn't have needed to do that much work to it 15 years ago you would not have needed to see what it needed some bolstering for sure in the foundation would have needed some work but it has gone way down hill cuz nothing's been done to it so now I don't know when I walked in there you really could have a good Carpenter and you know Carpenter team and a month you could have showed that things as Christ yeah that's so sad and I don't know how much of it I mean a lot of it was the problems with all those holes in it and actually really replace that wood was going to be new but at least you could sort of get a semblance of what it was and do your best to sort of Britney if you had like a real good architect on hand in a real good engineer and is someone from some sort of historical society where they could look at it and say okay this is what we want to maintain as much of this old stuff as possible while making sure the sink and lasts for more people to see it I think they could still do that but I have a little underwear expert but it's there's plenty of it that you can save and you know that famous picture of the table the floorboards are still there and they're all the same you have the same stuff so I don't know I'm no expert on it but until the owner of because it's his until the owner decides to do something to it come on bro what's his name I think it's Wayne gives playing because it's his until the owner decides to do something to it come on bro what's his name I think it's Wayne Gibson Gibson

and I would laugh about that you know my kids would have musk ox sandwiches are musk ox tamales near go down to school with that's hilarious that was great my kids like freaked out other kids at school you know like like kids in my my kid's school be like oh what's your favorite food my daughter be like I like bear bear she likes to tell people what the f*** kids that have never experienced any wild game and my kids have eaten you know since 2012 when I started hunting they've basically and everything Devine elk they've eaten deer they've eaten Ducks they've eaten wild turkey they've eaten everything what's their how were they viewed in their Community but how are you viewed in that that likes School parent Community I don't know it's hard zgold event yes I got to go to one today yeah I'm a weirdo for sure but are you off but I'm a nice guy so friendly and hugs but some guys are pulled me aside and asked me about manly activities cuz they feel like I hate you you're actually allowed to be a man and you're everyone's neutered then why the yelling at him and I'm off doing cage fighting events you know where we at 4 like Middle America rednecks was okay for you well they know me right now parents the most the most important things that I find is good parents respect good parents they see that you love your children dismissive parent and is not interested a disinterested parents like one of the most disturbing and disappointing things of you love someone you care about them and then you find out they're bad person or bad parent you have to re-evaluate your perspective on them cuz to me being a parent in my wife is huge on this like it to everything she will not talk to someone or hang out with someone as you feel like they're a bad parent and she too but she performs her relationship with her friends based on whether or not they're good parents and it's everything you know you're contributing to this community so when I'm around these parents you know I'm a nice guy so it's all it's all friendly but they all have questions all these poor men that are stuck in cubicle jobs you know men are tortured and it's like that who was it throw ya most men live lives of quiet desperation and it's one of my favorite most people are just living this boring ass f****** life and I'm living this life or I'm telling jokes in front of thousands of people and then I'm doing podcast in front of millions of people and then I'm hunting and then and then occasionally I go off and I do cage fighting commentary caricature of masculinity really about you is because at a glance look like all you know discussion of drugs and then like dirty humor and cervical like those are not congruous with parenting but you take Super HD take parenting like extremely seriously concerned with you need to spend shitloads of time telling everybody about how good of a parent you are didn't love you know and as a kid who grew up with a deficit of it and it's very important for me to spread as much of it as I can whether it's to my friends or through a children and two children Psych the most important responsibility cuz my friends with their fine I met him there grown-up stuff figured out and around help him when I can but but kids don't like that one shot raising kids man you know but kids you know it's like yeah one China that you're the one shot raising kids man you know it's not he can't redo it you can't go this one sucks only rip it up and start from scratch like you have to do it right and you have to and you're going to make mistakes for sure but you have to spend as much conscious time talking to them and interacting with them and you know I like it I enjoy it

with that came from do you know what that's from hookworm hookworm yeah it's really crazy The Stereotype of the lazy mouth-breathing Southerner came from massive amounts of people that were infected with parasites and these parasites are extremely common particular when people walk around Barefoot and they would get these worms in these worms would get into their system and one side effects of these worms was it a decrease brain function so that's a that's a real stereotype that came from a real thing so yeah pull up a hookworm in the South and then stereotypes because yeah I forget who told me this end up going on a deep dive one night and just reading article pain article about this where they didn't even find out that this was a thing cuz it was like the 1960s they found is hookworm parasite and this parasite that was extremely prevalent in the Southeast thing as many of like how hookworm give the South a bad name hookworms once sat the American south of its healthy if you realized they continue to affect Millions so this is this worm would infect people that make up a larger more than three centuries of plague of unshakable lethargy blanketed the American South it began with ground pitch in in quotes a prickly tingling in the tender webs between the toes which was soon followed by a dry cough Weeks Later victim succumb to an insatiable exhaustion and an impenetrable haziness of the mind that some called stupidity adults neglected their fields and children grew pale and listless victims develop grossly distended bellies and angel wings emaciated shoulder blades accentuated by the hunching all gays out Deli from sunken sockets with a Telltale fish iced are the culprit Behind The Germ of laziness as a South Affliction was sometimes called was nectar americana's the American murderer better known today is a hookworm millions of these blood-sucking parasites lived parasites lived said multiply and died within the guts of up to 40% of the population stretching from South Houston Texas to West Virginia hookworm stymie development throughout the region and bread stereotypes about lazy moronic Southerners wow oh okay well that s*** that makes sense I always used to think was just hot there and it's hard to think like you know what thank you visit touch to touch you know you didn't know that there's no touch in there just a touch from New York

stories about you no like I have a bunch of Asian friends and they're getting bullied a guy and his two kids two and six the guy because he thought they were Chinese people are going nuts over this thing you're not like we all in this together but you don't need to take it just because even if he was chinese-american probably you know he didn't bring it over here group of people you know that's why I hate when certain people go white people is a very small number of white people doing it I hate when people generalize a group like even though the whole Michigan thing so open carry state they showed up at this lady's office you know this 356 million people in the United States isn't it I believe so people there you know and probably a third of them just wanted to protest to get their jobs back just go back to work ridiculous take over the governor like what are you doing like why you bringing guns are you expecting a war are you going hunting like what are you doing why you bringing f****** gun that's what that's some weird s*** when people do that when they they protest with like f****** Kalashnikov and s*** what are you doing if your protein that's the thing about the Second Amendment and I I'm a pro-second Amendment man I believe in it I think it's important but there's a lot of dumb motherfukers out there there's a lot of dumb dumb motherfukers out there and they get to have guns too I mean not support that in a lot of ways I have to support that if I support the Second Amendment but it was a certain time you got to go why the f*** are you bringing a gun to Sam's Club why did Whitey have a f****** AK around your way when you're walking through the aisles looking for toilet paper like what are you doing it's it's it's amazing how much they're giving a pass you got to you got to USA pass right now to act like that those are good people it's just it's a stupid thing to protest with guns like one of the nice things about this country is that we can protest that's a beautiful it's important this is one of things has been infringed upon by this whole lockdown thing where people you know they're being told they're didn't they're not allowed to assemble it's a gigantic part of who we are the ability to assemble the Billy to protest but that's just what they're doing when you're showing up with guns you letting them know that you are ready to take over your ready to do something you might shoot somebody you know you might and if you are threatened you might use these guns like okay if if if we're in that with your ass collating way past where we're at you know if you if you're in a situation where someone saying hey your family has to starve to death here yet stay home hey I don't give a fuk about you okay then I understand why you want to show that you and you get to get a bunch of people together you're hey we need to stay alive here and we are our rights being infringed upon but that's not what's going on if you go back to the Back store you find out like I don't know all the facts but I know these people that showed up to this rally they didn't put on that rally it was by another organization through through Facebook or through some social media outlet that put it together and they told you to bring their guns another organization through Facebook or through some social media outlet that put it together and they told you to bring their guns and now they just told people to protest them up to show up so political game

but there's also something to just the spectacle of Tony Ferguson and Justin gaethje just going at it mean what wild five rounds slugfest with no on it just would have been different if I had a game plan and he executed it brilliantly and I think Ferguson he's always going to be Tony Ferguson he's one of the top us men That Ever Walked the face of the Earth but I think he was preparing for a Grappler and he's preparing for khabib nurmagomedov off and that if I didn't take place was supposed to take place in April so he'd been training for khabib by the way this is a fifth time that fight was cancelled fifth time the fight with Tony could be was canceled so training for khabib for f****** years right so he's ready for this Elite Grappler take survey down smashes I'm he's trying on the bottom submitting I'm scrambling and getting leg locks all these different things that he's thinking of and then he's writing an All-American wrestler what does not want to go to the ground and was nasty striking does a totally different game plan and he has to make an adjustment over a. Of just a few weeks and So Justin's fight is mean Justin always fight the same way so Justin's adjustments weren't nearly as big as Tony's tell me how to make some some big adjustments but Justin just fought a masterpiece the way you fought with just magnificent and he listened to his coach is so well does a point during the fight with Trevor Wittman to tell him you're hitting up too hard you're swinging for the bleachers he is just take about 10% off your punches hit with good clean shots in the immediately made that adjustment and then is cardio leveled out cuz he was getting tired towards the end of the second and cuz he was just throwing bombs everyday to take out but you can't knocked out with one shot he's inhumanly tough inhumanly tough so Justin Baxter off a little bit and just his throne clean shots and wind-up just dominating him and then then they stopped in the fifth-round what's that one thing you learned like like was there something you took away from this experience that you like you didn't take away from any other interesting very very fortunate to be there I might go to all the people that can be here to watch one of the greatest fights of all time I felt super fortunate that I was one of those people that got to be there I felt like real fortunate for that like everything about it was like I was like taking in the moment and then just like really cherishing it like this is amazing not a lot of people get to do this not a lot of people get to experience this not a lot of people get to do commentary for the UFC. But it do commentary for championship fights in this Arena where there's no one there so we're not 15,000 seed Arena and there's maybe ten people in the audience wondering why they did that but is it a spectacle of having a big arena just to say you did it or something to that to let everybody know Haley so these are strange strange times you know we're in the middle of this Health crisis and so this is the response to this Health crisis we're going to do this s*** in this Arena

City videos about a couple weeks ago and I started laughing cuz all that popped into my head was you but they release the footage of those UFOs if the government came out and said there are flying saucers that defy our understanding of propulsion in physics the world will go crazy but in 2020 people like nothing has anybody seen those Pilots well one of them on here oh so he experienced off the coast of San Diego running into one of these things I mean there's people that Bonkers but they need to understand this is not just visual they they had very specific like actual real data including radar they track these things they use sophisticated military tracking these are real objects this is not like there's a lot of dummies out there that want to debunk everything and they're just as much of a religious person as someone who is a True Believer there a True Believer that everything to be well not everything can be explained in these things can be explained when the when they're explaining how these things traveled at these proposed like they went from like six feet off the ground 60,000 feet in a matter of a couple of seconds did they fly in some way that these military aircraft Pilots can't explain they don't understand it and they don't know what they are and whether they're from another planet that's never been proven they might be interdimensional might be something from here they might be some super sophisticated top of the food chain top secret stuff that they're exposing these people to just they freaked out and like let's let's see if they can get a you know get an explanation for this let's let's launch these things and have them fly past people at these Preposterous rates of speed and see what the reaction is do you think those those type of Secrets if there are far higher than the present do you really do you think there's an organization that's above president presidents come and go in the popularity contest Trump's perfect example that his lifelong businessman who will wins a popularity contest gets to be in the most powerful office most powerful position really really the world's ever known president United States commander-in-chief of the Great Is Our me this entire planet has ever seen you going to tell him lifelong businessman who wins a popularity contest gets to be in the most powerful office most powerful position really really the world's ever known president United States Commander in Chief of the greatest army this entire planet has ever seen you going to tell him

healthy when you were in Florida I want to take a bath in Florida it's being wealthy when you were going back and forth did you like kind of stay away from people in airports or or don't do anything stupid do anybody cough on you or anything like that like everybody I was around for the most part other than the people in the hotel everyone was tested all the people do UFC were tested all the fighters are tested the workers and everyone was tested and you know the hotel everybody had masks on all those people like Ada Morton's Steakhouse was very nice sit-down me and my fam Mia like a grown-up but he's amazing Psych the real world again I was there anybody in a restaurant with a couple other people yeah there was one older couple no mask and some young people the bar no mask I tell you what when I first got out when they first cleared me in my neighborhood cuz everybody knew like literally a walk outside and go for a walk say the name of the coffee place but I went to my local coffee place and since I didn't post I was cleared they the manager of the store sent me a nasty on my Instagram sent me a nasty how could you in danger all our workers by coming in and you have Corona this is after three weeks I've been cleared and it is reach out to me personally on my Instagram and I called I called their district manager this is Prejudice like I've been clear for 3 weeks and I have a manager just because I didn't post that I was cleared on Instagram it's all so shity shity shity there was it was it was really bad and I was angry but then I saw it like on my street but I was a plate like people like literally with running side alleviated is subsiding I G & I in this is anybody's there's an antibody test you can take at this place called nexhealth where it's not FDA-approved but it shows you like your strand is it long immunity is a short immunity and they said I had long immunity people that get it the worst to me it was all bulshit at the beginning is like why wouldn't you tell everybody I guess it was like last month was last month from March somewhere to have something that makes you not going to protect you a cool math when I saw that advertised though that they they set this mask up this mess like seals to your face they set this mask up in this tube and they blew cigarette smoke into the tube and then on the other side of the Mask was clear if you know they knew people are asymptomatic people with problems but you know people are asymptomatic and you need percent of people catch this are asymptomatic really crazy even if you know 3% like in February where asymptomatic this is what I'm hearing they knew it in February the people racing for the conflicting information in March they didn't know that so if people can get it in droplets why would you have the only people that are having symptoms wear a mask if you can get in drop us that means if I'm healthy I can get it from your droplets so why wouldn't you just say how much confusion you know the World Health Organization in January tweeted that according to China it cannot be transmitted from person to person comes in January is changing so much the World Health organization's been in bed with China for the beginning and it's really a big part of the problem with this is that the disinformation that the Chinese government and put out to try to alleviate some of the blame mean that's that's what their game their game is I blame and take control of the narrative so the World Health Organization was invent them and that's why Trump although it's widely criticized that he stopped funding to the World Health Organization this is his rationalization for that like they have done Terrible Things what also Fitz is narrative do to it's their fault that we're in their fault that we're in this even though we knew about it before it got here we did know about it before it got there but the World Health Organization did say that in January 100% date they said this and then you're looking at it like all week Christ I mean my thing is just going back to March 6-11 desk and just a short amount of time over 80,000 Montana Montana

Michael Yo back from the brink it's crazy you are the first guy that I've ever bought my friends Sturgill got it and I talked to him but he didn't get it real bad like how bad is not real bad okay you got it right after you were on this podcast podcast you flew to New York to Gotham for four shows little run-down yeah little rundown as soon as I landed I did Wendy Williams on Monday and then I flew back and went to Vegas for a day soon as I got back and then had three auditions so I was run down and that weekend we felt sick already know there's no just tired tired but we're always tired the road gets you perform you trying to learn lines for an audition so I was I was very stressed out I was traveling a lot and that was like the third weekend in a row so it was every night I got a great sleeper I was just I was just tired of work maybe but Saturday I didn't feel right my temperature went up to like 101 this is the fluid in New York what day it was I performed I was there Wednesday which would have been I'm guessing at dates May 4th I mean March 4th March 4th I perform the 6th and 7th stage the 8th did Wendy Williams on the night flew back on that Monday went to Vegas Tuesday Morning came back that same day then what you do in Vegas besides heroin play feel right and this is you to remember when I performed and New York there's only 11 deaths and it was like three thousand cases that's how much this thing has changed but Saturday I didn't feel right 101 it went I said I should isolate myself because I in New York that's all you heard about so I was like let me just be safe and can you do the weekend at Gotham and then you fly home and then you go to Vegas on Tuesday and then you drive home on Wednesday back Tuesday night to sold Jesus during the day I hang out I isolate myself but I'm between 100 and 101 second day I'm like 101-102 but I'm still at home if you have symptoms at home because they're taking the more serious cases so the Sunday Sunday came around I kind of went down a little I was taking aspirin a lot of aspirin because one doctor at the times it take it every 4 hours and also taking aspirin and something else to bring your temperature down I forgot what it was but aspirin and what you said when you started taking ibuprofen that's when it's f***** you up that's when I felt it did so Sunday I start getting this massive headache so that's when I really started popping aspirin 3 every 3 hours but aspirin or ibuprofen it was ibuprofen there's a big difference between aspirin ibuprofen is a non steroidal and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory take ibuprofen while you have this okay well whatever reason I don't know what that is I don't know I don't know if that's been discredited or is that so on Sunday but then I had a massive headache so then they said well your temperature is going down this is our doctor friend Monday at noon I couldn't breathe like gasping for air and my wife had to call 911 to the house to come get me so I'm gasping for air 911 shows up they bring me outside a throw me on this huge this oxygen machine right away they like weed not a minute later just a normal oxygen they say we got to get oxygen in you and it is almost like a movie the Neighbors all out ambulance is overlooking me you know the ambulance is a all the neighbors I can't breathe my son is in the window this is the worst my son is in the window he doesn't know what's going on but he knows it's not good and he's only three and he's crying and I can't do anything I can't breathe and literally when they pick me secure me to the ambulance cuz I need to get me to the hospital right away it was a whole window thing he put his hand up it really hurt me really bad so I get into the ambulance and they take me as soon as I get to the hospital the doctor goes you got so they take in both locks so double pneumonia and you have Corona we believe but we got to text you so that you know swap me and stuff but they took all the precautions like a Corona I was the first Corona patient at this hospital this out earlier was you know so they took me to ICU in the doctor came in and I go hey this is escalating real and I'm still can't breathe I go in my going to make it and he goes will know in 2 days is going to go really good or really and we'll know in 2 days and every nurse or doctor that came in when they can't tell you if you're going to make it or not you know they try to comfort you but they can't really say you're going to make it and it and I was in the worst pain I've ever felt in my life to where had I mean just think of the worst migraine you've ever had * 100 my body was hot and cold it's so hot my temperature got up to 103.8 and they had to bring it down and then we'll go up to a hundred 3.8 again I couldn't move my body was aching literally the second night I was there and I and I know this is the wrong thing to think but if they had an eject button on life I'm a hit it I was in that much pain like that I couldn't even think clearly I can't put into words how bad it was for me so your head your body everything you just wanted to be over it's either you going to make it you like and it was so bad where you want to think about your family but I was in so much pain you know I thought about him but it was I can't make it this is this is the end and I can't see my family because they already told me that no one can come to the hospital and I'm texting my wife lying to her saying hey babe I'm going to make it through I make it to where I'm talking to my parents going this may not go well you know and my parents the first thing I text my parents is I'm scared I'm never texted him something like that and they knew how serious it was and I said look clear as my wife Claire is at home with the two kids I can't let her worry about this you know she was already stressed out enough she saw enough you know so I'm in there and the doctor said no one can come see you I'm going if these are the last two days of my life I'm going to die alone in this hospital and and it just broke me up so bad that you know I've taken care of myself I've done everything I can to take care of myself and why am I lying in this bed right now and it was a thing where when I did think about my wife it was I will never see my wife and two kids again to all that went through Amaya is like I did they put you on a ventilator know my doctor said my life my doctor said if we put you on a ventilator he said that he says the nurse should we put them on a ventilator and it goes no way if we put them on a ventilator he's going to die because his body is going to say OK this machine is breathing for us we don't need to work anymore and your body shuts down if you heard a New York 80% of people put on ventilators died and that's why I think that's why it's fine I've heard that I've heard that being speculated by other doctors as well and it's very controversial because so many doctors put people on ventilators and the last thing they want to hear is another doctor saying you put someone on a ventilator their thigh but you will that my doctor said that straight up in a rug in front of me over the nursing like if we put them on it he's going to die because his thing was it just makes sense why you would because now this machine is going to breathe for him so his body is not going to this week this machine is doing are you lifting so why would we want to put them on that unless it's it's just we have to put them on it you know but you've heard doctors were putting on people so fast because their oxygen levels were so low they like this isn't this is not normal so we need to do something to get their oxygen level up I think doctors are like everything else right there's really good ones then there's ones that aren't as good know it's true everything else with everything plumbers everything everything and it's really I look back I'm still now become very close to him and the dude say my life cuz if I'm going on a ventilator bro I may not be here because I kind of knock you out so what did they give you what kind of medication do they give you while you were out what why y'all I'm healthy Don't drink don't do drugs I was a perfect s up and maybe that's the problem do you know and then she tells me it's cuz you to hell that you need carbs in need carbs that's the thing man you know look I'm a guy I take a lot of vitamins I work out a lot I get in the sauna everyday but I just flew back from Florida if I saw you to Florida and came back yesterday I felt like dogshit and just from the flight man just from the edge so I scheduled an IV vitamin drip I had the vitamin drip people come to my house hit me with glutathione zinc vitamin C everything and I felt better almost immediately when I was in the hospital doctors reached out to me too and said there's so much information out there and I texted you about one that people should know about when people get out of the hospital with Corona like there's no magical time they're saying 14 days literally when I got out the hospital I was in the hospital for 8 Days the last three days I didn't have a fever so they let me go after that I would be fine but another doctor told me look after your clear after 14 days people still have Corona there they're taking the chance that is not contagious and that's why hospitals don't test people and he said that this is why hospitals don't test before they let him go is because they know they still got Corona but hopefully it's not contagious so that's why he never texts because if they did that means they're still going through but when it was at its peak if they test everybody that left most of those people would still have piranhas so that would back up the system even more and then insurance has to pay for an extra three weeks so I learned that I learned that my other doctor said this whole pre-existing conditions is b******* he goes you came in he says this how much b******* is you came in if I would have died in the hospital they would have said my Pre-K pre-existing condition with migraines they would have gone down as he said they do are some pre-existing conditions that weaken your immune system like obesity diabetes there's a bunch of them that they're saying New York of the primary factors that lead to other people fine but it's not true he's like they're using it to calm people down because it's not true. He says I see people that are fine just like you might I see people that do have pre-existing conditions I see the whole gamut it's not just people with pre-existing conditions but they're finding those people and highlighting nose and he's even at the even adding death to that pre-existing conditions total because they they need something if I were to die in the hospital he says oh well he had migraines in the past so they would have put that down as a pre-existing condition when you get migraines I mean ever since I was a kid but really but it wasn't a condition I have a once every I have one every five six months maybe but he says what you come in with since I had migraines and didn't know my history of migraine but he goes we would have had to say that was a pre-existing condition I haven't heard that being migraines but I have her diabetes is a giant Factor obesity is a giant Factor emphysema smoke cigarettes it is a giant Factor obesity is a giant Factor emphysema purple smoke cigarettes or suspicious and I didn't even read the article was an article that said that nicotine may help people with coronavirus I was like that's the f****** cigarette industry

always going to be something you know what I mean but to me when hate is involved with it and I I think that's where we should draw the line but that's that's more of where I'm going is like how many people from us like we're it's just you don't just kill random people jogging down the street you know it's hard it's hard to imagine that that still goes on today right but then when you hear about your dad and that your dad went to college in the place where he couldn't eat places as white people you like white on campus on campus yet in his lifetime it's changing it's getting better but that is that doesn't exist and this is what I don't like some black people I don't want to say just like me but some black people when they go I'm in my house I can go to any restaurant I want you know that interracial relationship doesn't mean anything anymore 4 is showing how much less violent the world is today how much less crime there is how much less rape how much less murder in this is essential the safest place the safest time ever in human history and then people like your discrediting all of the horrors that happen if we do not know not I'm not and I'm not dismissing all the terrible things that happen in the world but we're saying even though those things do exist they existed a far less frequent Bartlett I was frequently then did a hundred years ago 200 years ago and anytime throughout human history there's a trend and that trend is a society is getting save her people getting nicer if people are getting getting better for growing and learning now like I'm from my family my dad side I'm the first person that dealt with racism so it's kind of like and I'm teaching my kids not to be that way I feel like these kids that are young growing up they're going to be so much more sensitive towards other people then we were for sure you know what I mean like my dad went to a school in Houston Texas where only mixed couple I was only mixed kid at our school I believe because I didn't it wasn't even a thing you know like people do you look different are you or white couples what is the thing where I saw what happened to my mom did teach me to be my mom didn't teach me anything about my Korean Heritage cuz people made fun of her accident so she didn't want me to go through that so she try to americanize me as fast as possible you know my dad he's that guy because you said that's real I think that Leonardo DiCaprio movie with Samuel Jackson complain about social justice Warriors and the ridiculous calling out of everything being racist and everything being sexist and I agree but the fact that that is the trend that allow these young people are going in there zits too far in a lot of ways but it'll all balance out like you got to have that sort of overwhelming left-leaning ideology and it is overwhelming any ideology for people to sell what is rational but the trend seems to be in a positive way like it seems to all be going in a positive way like it seems to be like racism is weightless tolerated among the most of the people that are in the middle of most of people that aren't crazy and aren't aren't you know aren't overly sensitive like it seems like things are bouncing out should be in a positive way like it seems to all be going in a positive way like it seems to be like racism is weightless tolerated among the most of the people that are in the middle most of people that aren't crazy and aren't aren't you know aren't overly sensitive like it seems like things are bouncing out

saw the video of the kid that was jogging Ahmad yes I mean what is going on like I'm not surprised I can say I'm not surprised like something jumps out and he's trying to grab the shotgun from they shoot them like what my thing is how do we have laws that say that you could Chase somebody with guns and here's a thing if you notice in the video in front of them so they chase them got in front of them the guy that's running behind those like like a mod was trapped a guy chasing you with a camera the truck was already pulled up so it was certainly trapped and it's vigilantism even even if he did something may I don't even know if he did anything actually photographed videos of him walking into house being built like what I tell my wife what would do that s*** when I was a kid me to tell my wife we just did that the other day they're building a house and which is also let's see what else is in in and any jobs on didn't steal anything didn't have anything just jogging now how do we come to a point in our country where two men can chase him down with guns and then get in a fight with him and then say it was self-defense well I think Georgia has some crazy laws they have time to law enforcement father was with the DEA and then the prosecutor the local prosecutor wrote this letter that said basically he burglarized to get a mod burglarized something which you didn't and they had every right to pull them over and when he didn't stop he got in a fight and so they had every right to kill so now the the government came in like the people in 2 days and it was just like we don't think so social media I took the outrage of people finding out about the case but when I found out that it happened months ago 223 February him and then that the guy I do try to take the gun away look who's going to free you when I'm doing the southern accent and two white guys in the back of a pickup truck with shotguns pull over and there's no one else around what was the kid's supposed to do just stopped and talked to two men with guns exactly it's it's in then and then I was listening to reports like before this video even came out as crazy as the police had the video at the beginning and they still just missed it they had this at the beginning they didn't release it the lawyer released it like you said so they have it at the beginning I think he shot the video whoever this guy was a hero video they start talking to them pulled a gun out right away when you just jogging well some coasters I just feel that you know anytime you bring up race you'll have the audience that goes all you got to bring up race but this was a black guy that got shot by two white guys with a shotgun shot a white guy well you've heard this some people don't even think racism is real there's no racism in America people go through so if you think about that right 3 people go people own people so you were racist and then your kids were racist my dad is that third level being black had to go through racism so we're still in it that you can't go away that fast it takes a long time to go away when you get the roots of it that's still deeply embedded in the cities right like Baltimore Red Line allowed to sell a home to someone who was black insert tricks me and my dad has a PHD in nuclear physics in went to a college where you couldn't even eat at restaurants on campus and Oklahoma State my dad was in marches to try to get the local restaurant The Lettermen so it's a thing where when people go racism isn't that bad my dad is only 75 right and he went through it during his life this is how my dad said he didn't even know he was poor growing up because they never left the area they couldn't go anywhere he never knew they were poor people because they weren't allowed to go anywhere anyway so he never knew they were in poverty

you know I was reading this horrible story about even after slavery was abolished one of the things they would do is they would capture black men for loitering and force them into going into labor camps so they would literally in for slavery but do slavery by having them in prison yep and forcing them to do labor now when I'm the reason I bring this up right now there was a garbage strike garbage workers strike and they brought in prisoners they kicked find out where this says they this is I don't remember where it was when I was reading over what in the f*** these guys the garbage man made $10 an hour they fired all of striking garbage man and brought in prisoners to do this here it is prison labor replace is striking garbage workers in New Orleans stop and think about that you know what you want more than $10 an hour I got a better idea we'll get people to do it for clear essentially reigniting slavery in New Orleans when it comes to taking care of garbage that this is like well I got a solution in the fact you don't think someone should get more than $10 an hour to take care of people's garbage that's literally slaves can be paid only 13% of what garbage makers to the good garbage workers who are only making $10.25 an hour so they're going to get 13% of that which is what is that is that I got buck-fifty flooring that it's like $0.75 right that's insane what some people would say you know their inmates they did wrong that's right hold on but won't go to scroll back up their butts in this Metro Services Group has a lot has long been an advocate of helping persons who have been incarcerated return to society in a meaningful and productive way to the city sanitation services in a statement Metro makes no apologies for this policy as a core element of our commitment to being good corporate citizens under trolls prison inmates employed by Metro services with paid only 13% with garbage workers make f*** what is that mean built widespread Community spreads from unions and Community groups but still doesn't mean they have built widespread Community spreads from unions and Community groups but still the city has refused to meet them and discuss their safety concerns widespread Community have built widespread community support support unions in too many groups they wrote spreads instead of support I think it said that they're they aren't trying to hear us says Woods They Don't Care About Us they would let anything happen full-time job is f****** insane it's insane into a grown man in a union that can't get more than $10 an hour how f****** crazy is that this is this is what we're living in and I often wonder you know I always think about your three people go and I go how long is it going to take how many people from us right is it going to take you know I'm like maybe 5 maybe 6 if the world is still around necessarily always cuz we could get to a point where there were indistinguishable right or it'll be it'll be a financial thing or intelligence thing you know unless unless they get to genetic engineering in Russian etic engineering reaches a point where literally there is no disparity in human beings terms of intelligence looks all those things but what is that yeah there's always going to be competition is always going to be weirdness right there's always you know there's always going to be those women that can bounce back from pregnancy quicker is always going to be men like you know super Geniuses were Knuckleheads like a sir scratching our heads on how the f*** do they even think of that every time I talk to you on every time I have that dude go f*** him up. I'm the one that walked out of the room like him but he's right and unless we figure out a way to make it fair which is almost positive opk is going to be Prejudice is going to be disparity smarter than me or even close he's a large man to he's bigger than me to he's the world's not fair right and unless we figure out a way to make it fair which is almost to be Prejudice is going to be disparity

I mean this is horrific this is a setup is reservation and everybody got syphilis everybody everybody's bag and everybody and they all got syphilis and people hair is falling out the other ulcers all over their body people are going crazy and dying the Indians are like right now all the top of the freezer by the top of the Looney left the top of them they're all going to go down for something they want the day before 9/11 Donald Rumsfeld 11 happened to no one brings it up so if we have a World War right now those people who go to prison or would you rather would you rather go to prison or World War greatest thing ever and now being famous it's not so great it's like you're just a Target you know it's like nobody has no right over the wrong about everything over and over three years of Trumps of Russian agent they gave Trump the Russian that's the worst thing you could give a politician he's a Russian agent Russia racism rape even if I didn't win the person that would be president right now would have a body count think about that s*** a person with a body count can Trump just cuz he's arrogant and over-confident and more prosperous what we're seeing now is we're seeing clearly now clearly who is above the law there are people that can do whatever the f*** they want we're seeing and I used to be a myth conspiracy theory but we're seeing it now who is above the law with all this going on with Epstein and all that and the media is backing them off to that if that's all just a distraction till I can get people arguing make it so obvious that it was it wasn't a suicide meanwhile he's still alive and everyone's trying to figure out how he died and all they care about is that he's dead but there's virtually a media blackout on it for the longest time but they talk about something cuz the longer the mainstream media doesn't talk about it the more obvious it looks and it's waking everybody up you know how many people were super anti conspiracy theorist Jeffrey Epstein and there's a guy on YouTube Every Day puts out all he does is Steve he's written books on gangsters and all and every day he puts out a Epstein video on update and supposed to eat protein on Atwood who was originally doing what Epstein was doing Epstein took to everything started Bangin just laying she takes him because you know what you going to take over the family business the family business is it's not just blackmailing the elite that's part of it but the big part of it shut down our throats with obvious now it's all out in the open so any plausible Theory you can't laugh at jumpsuits Baker definition of go to one of the islands in Japan and one of them probably have so many spots set up when do we smart instead of some spots and in like the Greek Islands or somewhere like what the coast of Norway Greenland Greenland Greenland they can have all these cities a kill switch with the wrong family controllers and surveillance and now we haven't the internet was intended for scientists to share information at University was in the University's why they invented it was all funded by the CIA was all the way to keep it's always about the New World Order it's always about the easiest way to control us we can go on for 5 hours for this s*** it's almost like you can't and then the directors are only there temporarily that and out everyone that goes through it but it's a real like if you find out some evil ships going on for sure in my heart I believe it 100%. There is some stuff in the Bible that the real s*** there is no it comes from the real ship it got distorted and translator like maybe God is the idea maybe God is the in Jesus's the frequency you want to get in that frequency of life don't deceive anybody don't tell each other each other out that you will be in that song there's more there's way more s*** to this reality this Dimension that and then the more the more I get into your trying to find out what we're on and what what this is all about and then you look at the Main Street I think someone created what we're at whatever you want to whatever you think this isn't assimilation will you know came up with that becoming really just came up with that, Jesus said I'm no longer Pagan / luciferian I'm no longer an ancient Babylonian ship where we like Christ to Christ we're going to do they made Jesus and what I'm saying is they would never end to Jesus when you look at the Vatican you've gone too far you think the Vatican has been is a beautiful place I love it after kids born Catholic Catholic and for the Catholic church I love the Cardinals I love The Bishop's I love all of them depict the L they reported that they killed Carrie Americans so it looks like a real Retaliator face going on so it the rumor is the rumor has it that the president of Iran wasn't getting along with solemani anyways so Trump said so I got to take them out I'll do you a favor I look like a bad motherfuker Jiu Jitsu in a beagle why are you can spare stairs and I said why isn't everybody of God damn conspiracy theorists we all know the government lies and then you believe official stories I'm sure. For sure you know what out of those four people they're all saying the exact same thing and they're all full of s*** and who else sang this exact same thing CNN MSNBC so we already know okay so by process of elimination you know that people that think Hillary good Trump bad Trump good Hillary back and then there's the third type that think both of them are bad f****** someone's willing to kill a motherfuker just to avoid you don't have to do any more people you just have to figure out which who are the good people here I believe Bob mizar believes all that s*** I believe he don't believe it's true I believe you set up they let him talk too much like aha they're going to let him do Netflix and they're going to come on JRE if you're on Netflix they want the Deep State wants you on Netflix you eat that they're trying to get us to believe in aliens so they can fake an alien attack so that'll Usher in the New World Order cuz what happens if the aliens attack we all unite and all the movies and see him in the movies like other attacking this called I'm happy that the comedy scene is slowly getting braver with jugs and seems like it's a weird thing because in the 80s it was like the cool thing to be a liberal and I'm Democrat and Republican they just they're just Christian they have family values they don't want to get high or go to Republican and I don't know what happened I don't know what happened but it seems like now the cool kids are Republicans cuz when I grew up there were no family values and I thought Family Values is a way to control you control you with the family values in Christ on the older you get you like a f****** idiot of course it's all about family values dude with no values is a dude you can trust with the s*** you know what I used to think growing up that giving in to your desires was like that you're right it's my right thumb horny I'm going to f*** if I wanted party I'm going to drink and these f****** right-wing people from Alabama they're trying to throw Jesus down my throat and try to push you do a push their family values and but I swear now dude I'm not Republican I'm not claiming Republican at all or anything but I get it now I get it because I have a kid and there's no way anybody is going to convince me that because some f****** kid pink hair all looked up on Pharmaceuticals shoots up a mall that it makes sense that I give up my guns and I can't protect my family so long, everything up is people getting blackmailed and people being compromised and those are the people that are making the laws and they are the lows law affect my family gets all f***** up cuz everything you're saying is right but that's not what these people be certain people not everybody there's a lot of good people in the government lot of good people and it's I'm fat I'm fascinated everyday finding out who they are those are the good guys and the bad guys let's make it popcorn and you watch the f****** show you know what people tell me you know like if it's all you do is study conspiracy theories on the weekends dude on the weekends I am blue pill in myself on the weekend baseball with my son karate we've got the f****** watching the Disney cartoons with all the spaceship and a blue pill with the f*** out of my don't try to get my son into life every minute is happiness just love and happiness and we just beautiful want to make henna for every deck he loves School more than anything he loves to go more than f****** you love school and then after school karate and then we're going to eat all the baseball to and then we're going to go to the batting cages my boom I think we're going to I'm going to take a relaxation day worth a lot the last couple days but let's go get a order pizza from the from Dino's in Burbank amazing and then we'll watch some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle he's all about Teenage Mutant 19 kid I was one of 19 yet at 8 different checks he was banging and he never I found out I met I met a couple of my half-brothers and half-sisters they were actually part of his real family and we met one day we went to the Old Spaghetti Factory in in Hollywood and he put they told me all about it but I didn't know I thought he had five kids he had a family with five kids and my mom was some chick he was sitting on the side that's what I thought I didn't know how many my Sassy Sister go sister half-brother how many kids do you think your dad has I said 6:00 train 19th and Gracie holyshit and one thing that he never told anyone he never said the words I love you to anybody to his like real family you never said it to me cuz I would seem like once a year the words never came out of that never told my mom back apparently he's one of those guys that will never say hello to anybody and I tell my son I look him in the eye everyday so you know who loves you the most you know I don't know I love you though you know I'll kill anybody for you you forget play I won't forget I call you promise I won't forget it I just want to make sure you don't forget and it goes okay because I Daddy I won't forget I promise another everyday I'm living for him that's why I shave my head in my washing my hair

I want to get back to something you said earlier you said the way restaurants were before the Food Network like what happened you know I think Food Network end and food shows in general are a great thing you know it empowers people to cook and there's all different levels and I think it's the the greatest thing it also has given us a chef's a platform to do some incredible things too but there was a different type of motivation between between the cooks in the kitchen and a good number for Cooks today so before you know there wasn't celebrity involved so you were there for the reason for the love the art of it where as nowadays I'm not going to say everybody because I cook with and I know there's plenty of people that are very serious about it it's about about the craft of putting in the hours the repetition that doesn't make sense until all the send you doing something without thinking about it and that's what it was like before we were just everybody was in the kitchen was there because they loved cooking not not for any reason of celebrity or or whatever it is so it it really it did change good hit me up patients like so people like the progression be like oh you work as a line cook for three to four years and then you know you then your sous-chef for number years and then you're a chef and you know there was a progression and then when the whole thing came along menos everybody was like culinary school to Chef you know they want to jump right into it and do you think there's a significant number of people that are actually getting into cooking to become famous there's something about it yeah there's an Allure I mean it it that it has it has a thing I don't know. The famous is a little bit different notoriety and other like ready to show like hey I can this but with cooking the there's a certain number of hours you just you cannot avoid you have to put this in you have to have the knife in that in your hand for thousands and thousands of hours before you really are starting to cook because it's easy to do a dish but it's difficult to do addition to cook you know consistently with all the different things getting thrown at you like this coronavirus thing or like okay how do you adapt how are you resilient you know how can you bounce back how do you understand like matter what I'm going to get this dish up at 9 if that customer wants it at 9 not anything else while I think we're rapidly moving towards opening up the country it's going to happen extremely fast over the next few weeks so yeah informational level is when reporting two separate out diagnosed with covid-19 what size is which was covered a primary cause of the death or not I mean I mean somebody has covered get eaten by shark finder arm the arm has covered find that you've covered you will be required as a covered by would they do that though well right now so covid that is difficult to say no to especially if your hospital is going bankrupt for lack of other patients to the hospital right now they're following doctors as you were mentioning the other or I got to find some doctors and what's it what's in that knows how far upon Dre is it what words can do so nice to be semi-normal again yes for f****** Shore supposed to be lifting up here in Los Angeles on Friday which means nothing for us for comedians that means something feel like some retail some other stuff but they're doing it nice and slow and a list of s*** that the governor's office stuff you're allowed to do you should pull that up Jamie cuz it is it's quite hilarious it's it's kind of like you're a moron like hears things you're allowed to do one of them said soft martial arts martial Martial Art of War anti cheese it is much more of a meditation of War I think it's very beneficial to test Athletics number one what does that mean badminton singles singles throwing a ball a baseball softball. Here's the problem with that yeah if you're throwing a baseball you're basically shaking hands with an organic skin baseball the outside of it Houston to throw ball by yourself but right are in Northern California big deal Blue Crabs I think they are I think they're blue there's a lot of areas around San Francisco or people catch crabs it really big in like like Maryland and you know those guys love crabbing in Alaska to the do a lot of crows gardening groups oh you can explore Rock pools thank you oh wow where can we do that Malibu but you can't get to the beaches closed cycling golf singles walking no cart Tony oh my gosh if it's your cart is there a logic to that and how is it any different than the car at the supermarket like that motherfukers getting passed around like a cheap hoe but that lady that new press secretary she isn't he sent me that video to they're prepared and you know why they are prepared cuz they're trying to play gotcha yeah but she played with them she checkmated like Leonardo DiCaprio he was like that she could f****** fire off the machine no I don't know if I don't happen with her because she said that travel from Asia is because they're worried about the coronavirus they tried to take what she said and then take it out of context or frame and take a look at what she was saying that Trump is not going to let the country get infected by the coronavirus he's not going to have free travel where people have coronavirus because it's going to bring the virus in not that it's the only way the virus is going to get here the virus got here anyway but came with them who trying so hard to have these moments where they they f****** play got you when did when do these journalists quit being drones me come like f****** trolls off Reddit like some of the questions to Trump that's why Trump is so hard in the paint on them I know but he goes too hard the problems years to months guy f****** rider for the way she handled as though oh my God she just dropped the folks it was a coyote with a TNT zaxy coyote with a TNT and then she had a big smile and walked off as a trying to say he's like you prepared for that she went thank you have a good day I think she prepare for it with all those stats and she read right in front of you

congratulations thank you you will never forget what is going on in the world when you think about when your child is born you will know for the rest of this child's life you were born during a weird time that's for sure that is for sure the probably the weirdest that I can remember knows the perfect day for you how do you say the name well 12 is my contribution Archangel 12 the precursor to the SR-71 coolest plane ever to Ariel travel as you are and it's a perfect 3 grade pretty great does it feel strange to have a child while this craziness is going does it feel like you've had children before it does any weirder it's being older and having a kid I appreciate it more any of my own I would see other people's kids and I didn't not like that better but I wasn't drawn to them to her but now when I see little people's kids and let them come out and then grow and then like your whole idea what a baby is is very different so now as you get older and mature fully formed adult it must be really pretty one wonderful spring for Babies R Us well see things fight so you're talkin about the neural-net you're not talking about it an actual baby natural baby both of them so it comes from the brain is like a net of neurons so you know it's like the yeah humans are the you know

I think Mark Cuban to do a good job I think he'd like to be president agree I probably will talk about this stuff isn't I don't think the NBA should be back listen get worse we should shut down shut the fuk up dude make another Marvel movie so he's worried about that which I get dude from a personal standpoint I get that but I also read the statue of smart he's super smart you're smart dude man I'm literally Eli is also a little bit of virtue signaling where people are saying thoughtful people are supposed to say and then they get sap reminder check the tweets all of those people agree with me yay I got them to like me more thumb and f****** Spider-Man at 9 thank you for saying that you're amazing. Every life matters every life every life matters it's fine yeah that's not cute man it's like really bad for you yeah dude this is too easy and that if this doesn't scare you or someone public health will step up and have some sort of a public health campaign saying look folks you gotta lose weight you got to stop eating sugar it's terrible for you system get yourself down there reasonable size and all the people that try to counter it with emotions and b******* it's alright nominal shape is like a hundred kids everyone slim that's how it should be man I know I'm a little sick but I'm in shape to my heart's crate motor Summit Racing saint but these kids were all in shape man all these kids you know high school now a letter from his mom he can't work out because of Billy have sore ankles doesn't respond well pressure leave him alone leave me alone from this is that there's so many people that don't know how to deal with any sort of diversity of people to talk to and when this thing came out was going to Bunker down and I think, stores me close 2022 we're not going to be on the road anymore what who am I what was the names wrong when I get to Duarte after it's okay I learned what we can't be friends anymore all this ain't s*** Bubba but here's the thing pneumonia still real people still get pneumonia and that still survive don't come on here and I will f*** you up don't come on and scare everybody dude we happy we get enough man you ever watch CNN you would think the world's on fire what's that guy's name Brian stelter my favorite he's a chubby guy is like the Baldur chubby guy he's really on there all doom and gloom SportLemon yeah but I love when he gets when he's all doom and gloom and tweeted this last night this is interesting I start Bradshaw from its on Newsweek

am I going to be able to buy more than Roasters when's The Happening well I can't but mean things are going to get it done I had a brochure are wrapping up the model y production that that'll be a car this great car that getting the Berlin gigafactory volts and a white and a Truck my truck Roadster so I mean I plant powertrain we're going to have that in Model S so that's like pot one of the ingredients does needed for for roadsters The Departed powertrain there more bass. Unit battery back like how do you feel about that I'm afraid that go ahead Jazz and stuff up with carbon fiber and doing a bunch interior choices you're cool with it you can't f*** with that you don't have time so is it good that someone comes along and has a special the company stuff with a do I don't know if civically but it is pretty dope pretty dope looking they take model ass and they they widen it and give it a bunch of carbon fiber that's it right there you are you going to widen the track and doing a bunch a bunch of different I know you guys are testing at the Nurburgring cannot talk about that well I think we got to leave that for I understand I understand last time you were here you convinced me to buy a Tesla I bought it and it's f****** insane it makes other cars seem stupid they just seem dumb like I don't have love dumb things I love dumb cars like I love campfires I love campfires I have a 1993 Porsche that's air-cooled sure it's like really it's not that fast is really slow compared to I really really quite slow engaging about the mechanical this was like they're the gears and it's right analog but it's so stupid in comparison to Tesla like when I want to go somewhere and then I hit the gas and time like a cheetah stands so yeah so it's so it lowers the back Jesus using it really had her the instant torque the instant torque and just the sheer acceleration is baffling roller coaster on tap it really is like a roller coaster on top without the loop de Loops but it's the painting to your seat it seems like you're not supposed to be able to experience that from some sort of Rick you know consumer vehicle that you can just a regular person could buy if you have the money it seems to too crazy and then the idea that so we're going to take something from like Yeah from Cadillac rock Rocket World and put them on a car so explain that it's there won't be sorry 0269 is that the

am I crazy to think Dominick Cruz can beat let me see who don't decision Dominick Cruz is a legitimate bantamweight Henry so who do beat mal-de-mer eyes but Marla merized it seemed like kind of fell apart got tired and fell piotrowski broken we haven't seen in she just got off another surgery is 36 37 now which is old for a 235 lb fighter burial but man it's a tough fight for Henry Soto for everybody he's not an easy fight for anybody and also you know I mean he's got to realize there's not a whole lot more opportunities left now y'all if he wins this one there are but he loses it's kind of like in DC have a fun time and we get silly this is one of the guys yeah yeah he's getting mad waiting around for you know but I think I love Steve yeah yeah there was an article about it today when there's there's some sort of some sort of a discussion when I don't want is to come back too soon when he's not ready to lose that fight and then you don't ruin a little bit of his legacy but I re-watch that first fight you got poked bad in the eyes first fight with you see I don't know if that's where the eye injury came from but it could have been cuz I know I don't see DC jumping on the bed to fight Francis f*** that I think it's D-backs off and says I'm done you know my eyes her too precious I think DC retires agree unless they come up with some sort of while 205-pound fight for him that allows him to make that cat again turn on the bed to fight Francis f*** that I think if she backs off and says I'm done you know my eyes her too precious I think DC retires agree unless they come up with some sort of while 205-pound fight for him that allows him to make that cat again

I think I should be doing I think they should have the fight in California for Newsome's b**** ass then come and stop at your with precautions why is it such a big deal I don't know I don't misquote Luke it stays irritating for a long time stays irritating feel like 15 minutes after it's over that better than the prick testing better it is more active whereas the other one is just testing the antibodies and the other one they can tell whether or not you have a current infection or you recovered from infection but this is like are you sick with it right now . and it was negative my antibodies are negative everything is negative I don't have it but you can do that with everybody these aren't it's not these these doing that this is a thing and it's not like these tests are hard to get any more right there was a time the beginning of the outbreak 2 months ago was very difficult to get these tests now it's not you get these tests you get the results back fairly quickly very quickly 15 minutes of the anybody test it takes a day or so with the nose swab you can test everybody so you test everybody why is that hard if everybody's negative let him fight it's it's not I don't want to talk about it damn it. It's listening it's not what everybody thought it was going to be everybody thought was going to be like the Spanish flu or the f****** black plague it's not about how about Dana said reporters called in and complain to that the Newsome to the government and that's why I got shut down reporters that's the word and he is a list am I right on that Jamie do this and then that's why I get stopped so that's why he said p**** to p**** media you know I'd love to hear that list I want to see but that the of the of the people back then a month ago was different The public's perspective the information the more the information comes in the better things look you know the the worse it looks of your fam or someone in your family died or your grandma died. I understand that but the more the data comes the more it looks like it's not nearly as deadly to get open your eyes. Be willing to take the information in those many 70% of the people that get her a symptomatic which is just Bonkers and then every dozen people I blocked on Instagram I got a request sound pay-per-views over here like was not nearly as successful as it was now as it is now which is really kind of funny because if he had just like buried hatchet with you back then you would be an ally will be helpful. She could come on the show pretty basketball pump up the pay-per-view be great for every million views it's a different world now like now the shows bigger than anything is on ESPN by far and they don't have show me friends see when you don't have a connection to a network like it's basically a meritocracy like the shows good people TuneIn and more people tuned into more fun the more they like it the more they enjoy it the bigger gas for realness yeah it was not over producing stones in your ear and you got a banana jenda yes holding you back and slowing you down take it easy shop

no you are in the middle of this this strange time where you're selling your houses you say you don't want any material possessions and haven't seen all that I've been really excited talk to you about this cuz it's an interesting thing to come from a guy like yourself like why you doing that I'm slightly sad about it actually but why you doing it turn their kind of an attack Vector you know you'll say hey Blaine are you going to list stuff like no other stuff and I want to see what you going to do I have two other things that have sentimental value for sure I keep those Define you by the fact that you're you're wealthy they Define you in a pejorative way for sure I mean not everyone but you know for sure in recent years billionaire has become a purge election Senate majority people in a in a better way to produce products and services that are better than what existed before and you have some ownership in that company then that that is actually gives you the right to allocate more Capital so it is it's that there's a conflation of consumption and capital allocation so we take for Warren Buffett for example he does like Capital allocation and he reads a lot of a lot of sort of annual reports of companies and fully counting and it's pretty boring really he's trying to figure out is that he does Coke or Pepsi deserve more capital I mean that's kind of a boring job if you ask me but is that are better than others are worse and should you know your favorite type of company is making compelling products and services it should get more capital and if it's not a chicken less will go out of business money designing and Engineering fantastic product versus someone who's making an incredible amount of money by investing in companies are moving money around the stock market doing things along those lines it's it's a different thing and to put them all in the same category seems it's it's very simple and as you pointed out it's an attack Vector in finance we should have of I think fewer people doing low on your people doing finance and more people making stuff people are kind of learning that particular because of this whole pandemic in this relationship that we have with China that there's a lot of value into making things in the making things here yes it's somebody's got to do the real work yeah you know and you know that's for sure gutter entertainment get information that these are all Bible things to do you know where is there something that this idea of getting rid of your material possessions or something that built up over time or did you have a moment of realization where you realize that yeah I've been thinking about it for a while I do spend a lot of time and most of them and that doesn't seem like a good use of assets like somebody could probably be enjoying those houses and get batteries with done me so he's a legend his soul he want his Essence in the building and there's like doors to nowhere and strange like car doors and tunnels and oddbods paintings on the wall and yeah but why do you buy all these houses to just get bored and go I think I'd like to have that well I had one house and then but her house right across the road from me from from my main house and it was going to get it sold and then tore down and your bib a construction zone for 3 years and I was like well I think I'll buy it and preserve the Spurgeon water and not have a giant construction zone and then some privacy issues and so then I said like for the house some of the houses around my house and then F1 Point well you know it'd be cool to to build a house so then I quite some properties at the top of Samara Road and purchase got a great View and it's like these older houses you know I don't know artistic like that you know Dreamhouse everything can I get a CD on the little details and the Zion and or should I be allocating that time to getting us to Mars walk through the ladder so you know

I thought about you restaurant online I was just Googling new places to go for dinner and I don't know if maybe a couple years ago and I was Googling steakhouses and then I saw that you specialize in dry aged steaks and I have steak that you cooked once that was more than a year dry-age we have so if it was delicious but it was really weird and made it weird like a regular steak and taste like it's like a different animal like you're eating something you know some exotic animal and I just thought I'd like to do I mean you no more age doesn't necessarily mean better but you know it's just different and that's enough for me as a chef you know I called my drainage room and environmental chamber of me and Adam in the basement that f****** meat locker room and it's it's for people that have never been to a dry aging room it's very odd there's fans blowing around everything's a very specific temperature you got all these different things labeled as far as like what date it was put in there and for no one for people who haven't seen dry aging is very too because you like hey what is wrong with that meat exactly the outside crust of it. Here's a photo of it folks you can see it in the background of the not working going to text you later it is so you can see in the background the meat has like a black cross to it and then you slice that crust off what do you do with the cross get rid of it but is it edible it's not enjoyable for dogs eat myself the dog and he eats dog food with regular dog food there's a friendly oxidation I referred to in in the whole process okay is that white ass like the same as you get on outside of salami it's like that it's part of it there it's a mold and the whole concept behind dry aging is based on three things air velocity temperature and humidity are Velocity yes and it's really important I like to you know when I teach people about raging it's like if you want to Beach in Jamaica and there was no wind and you just start getting sweat then you just uncomfortable but then if Tradewinds went through it would have at the same temperature to evaporate the water off your skin so we're trying to do is we're trying to at the right ratio evaporate the water off surface so it doesn't get like a smelly stinky bad mold and dehydrated slowly what it does is it concentrates the flavor it transforms amino acids into whole different compounded changes the flavor all together and then also enzymes within the meat through the process of rigor mortis it breaks down so becomes more tender so you get flavor enhancement you get tenderization and it just it just blows it away it transforms into a whole nother compound it's like a flavor it's it's like when we talk have you ever heard of my concept of like my yard reaction yes but I don't know what it means anymore expression but I forgot what it means to buy a reaction is basically like when you're cooking something went up a pellet a i l l a r d you know when you're ever you're Browning are you doing different things at different rates I mean when it says transform into different things and you get different flavor compounds and that's really what happens you know with me you know so if I dry age you have to handle dry-aged meat a lot differently can't go on like okay I'm going to slow cook this one to try it cuz then it just developed a really nasty kind of like funky flavor but if you cooking under high heat like really aggressive like that's why I'm Steakhouse Broiler there's something about stop Browning of that triage me that transforms that just like awakens your senses you know I don't I don't even if anybody wants triage above medium I tried talk now cook it any way you want but if you start cooking past medium it's almost like you know seeing someone like transform like it just ages like when you cook it a long time it's just age just turns into something else is just nasty offencive you should go any Burger King you monsters what's wrong with you when I have it when I go to dinner with someone they order well done steak I just cringe like who am I eating they have some it's a cultural thing I noticed through with some people like they just want to cook that if the vase want a well done steak and I recommend a wedige state to do well done because you know at least you know you have a fighting chance for some type of flavor that what is the only weird yep yep you know it's true like Joe that's for me to know Criminal and it's also there's an art to the perfect temperature right what's the perfect internal temperature of a medium rare steak with which to be like 1:35 or something no it's it's a bit less but it's not necessarily the temperature it's kind of like how you get there okay let me explain that to you so I had this method we're particularly for thicker steaks where I'll cook it I start the cooking and then I get it to about a hundred 5 degrees and then I allowed to rest at 105 and when is it happening is is I called him at the just like tempering of the meat and it basically it starts transmitting the the temperature in towards the center and then I put it back in again and then they'll heat up the temperature if you like take it I would say for medium-rare even though like on many logs will say Okay 12125 is rare but it's not you know for me if you going to do that dead-solid medium-rare OB about 120 really 120 is rare like I don't really understand it exactly you know they'll get there I think they're overshooting it for me it's not rare like rare is is is 110 using the method that I use now. cast of Fantastic Beasts and rest amazing it's an amazing place to will you walk in there it's just visually it's really interesting because of that they have these grills with live logs me to take it live honestly but they take their cooking all over fire and they have these greats these grill grates at rise and and lower and you can see how they're doing it when you walk in the door I guess you're walking to table you're passing by in this method of this idea of cooking over fire logs like cooking over fire Some people prefer that and then some people like those crazy broilers wear their gas but the broiler it's on top and bacon and it's lowering down exactly what is the is there a difference and why it really comes down to what your taste preferences like where I'm at right now dry age without any type of smoke what is more preferable cuz I really want to taste the dry age when you start getting into the wood fire cooking and you're burning logs that aren't burnt. I like to cook basically my wood down to Charcoal like to ask so that it's cleaner okay so then you really taste the meat when you start you know burning on unburnt fuel you know that block themselves it has like these creosote sand different flavor compounds that will get on the meat and it's just kind of just like coach your palette I like that from a wet aged beef okay but for the triage I really like the cleaner I like the steakhouse Broiler I like using a Plancha you know and that's just like a heated piece of Steel it's like you can do that in your home with a cast iron Plancha you know it's just kind of like this flat sheet of Steel and it's all about crust development surface contact so like I like to cut the steaks on a saw so it's a perfect line and it's all about contact Direct with the surface it's about the Browning of the meat you know if you're going to get in there and you're going to cook over life would like that he's doing it obviously right cuz he's amazing but you know when you raise and lower the Shelf like I was saying how I rest it and like you can start on the higher higher level of the Heat and then you bring it up higher the actual Grill higher and it's actually resting while still getting like the tickle of of heat up there the tickle of he yeah so I imagine it like so the flames actually touch the meat it kind of tickles it so it's kind of like it kind of wisps at the bottom of the meat and so the way he's doing it Bazaar Meats he's using wet aged steaks cuz that's how you would cook offer over that kind of I don't know if he's doing that's my personal preference I mean I think he does do some aging it does amazing it believed over there so it's just I watch YouTube videos and how to cook the perfect steak they like what they think about dry aging though I mean old raging is not critical I call an environmental chamber so think about it like making cheese in France you say hey out of goat cheese and you think you'd get one type of goat cheese across line I'm creating an environment just like a cheese maker okay that's unique to my own I actually have the culture from 1516 years ago that I've traveled with Paul. Put on you put culture so I have like a method I basically take meat that an aged and I bring those spores if you will from that agent because you know there's a mold on it's a friendly mold and friendly I like it I don't know Simply Clean at a hundred hundred days hundred twenty days because I get there slowly my temperature is very low I like to in triage at 32 to 35 degrees I like a high humidity so I don't dehydrate the meat too soon I like 85% sometimes a little bit lower if I won pole it's really depends you know someone lots of fans the previous in a dry aged room and I bring it to that and so I put it up by the fan and it will circulate spores you put it by the family. How do you do that is a fan in a cooler and it's blowing around it's like blowing the whistle blow the the spores around the room so my dry it has unique flavor in my try you know some great guys who like master purveyors in the Bronx which is through these guys like my heroes you know they taught me practically they have their own flavors that dry aged taste different you know Pat lafrieda is another New York guy does amazing dried beef as well you know his that's a different flavor so you know for me that's why I take a lot of Pride even though it's not the most cost-effective thing to carry in a hundred thousand dollars in inventory but it gives me unique flavor profile that is my unique selling point for my restaurant so you have these pieces so like those steaks that we saw in that photograph you would take one of those I'd States when it's ready and then you would trim the pieces off then you use those pieces those dark and pieces who just has a sports on it and that would be how do you know how much to put in there as much as I can you know I'm really I don't want it to look like clean clean in there I wanted to be an environment so it's like a cave and you know I'll put a couple trays then and then I am very tactile so I'll touch the meat and feel it and you know I'll paste it I'll see where Adam always cutting into it's like a lot like you say taste it lead you cook it yeah like I'll cut off a piece like how we looking at 30 days how we looking at 50 days so each room is different because you know I try to Truman Vegas and we had you No Ceilings that were 30 35 ft lot of circulating air it was just it was just like a different flavor profile we're able to age 150 days and that was like our sweet spot okay and then he ran in Hollywood it's a lot last time a lower ceiling it circulates differently it's just you have to really kind of taste it's not just like I have dry aged or you go to the supermarket psycho you sell dry aged okay great I'll take it and if you think that's what it taste like it's a good indicator of what it is but if you really want to get you know like down to it you know each triage can taste a lot different than that that's really weird so it's it's very experimental it's constantly moving I ought to take you to die within well when I first did it was really by mistake particularly the extended age cuz you just weren't selling the meat so I had a couple of people out of pieces like like left you know back for a long time and you know that's like a taper cut into my tastes like woah I mean this is incredible and I was talking to the old school guys who drives like all you're wasting your money nobody wants take over 42 days you know it's just hydrate what I think now I think I'm onto something you know there's a there's a big difference here in the flavor and as you know we would see like a huge difference of jumping to flavor and like good quality not like the funky stuff like that the full-year that's like that's another level that's very good though I only want to see you don't want to eat too much like people in like a whole steak I'm like no you just want two slices of it savor it like a fine wine understand it get to know it but don't like hunker down on it because sometimes too much of a good thing is not good okay and I say the same thing also for the Japanese Wagyu like alluc all that fat in the marble ization it's incredibly rich and if you eat it like a Westerner it's not right it's just it's too much so certain steak certain types of beef you should be eating only a small amount and appreciating anything more like you just it's just I don't know what gets me it's it's too much for me when did people start dry aging a year like when when did this really cuz this is not something I mean obviously I know nothing about restaurant yet other than that they're great dry I never heard of a yearly cuz it's a new thing you know they were doing it in Spain for sometime particular with the older animals like the oxygen you know animals that are 5 years 8 years 10 years old and they would a cheese for long periods of time I was not aware of this when I started doing it that they were the first people that I heard about it was doing it while I was doing there was amazing a food writer Jeffrey steingarten who just like dialed into me and we did a tasting with one of my culinary Heroes Harold McGee who wrote The Incredible Book on food and cooking which is a scientific manual to all chefs around amazing guy and he had put in his book that there's really no difference in flavor when you get to that that point and so that later stage so we cook three steaks and we cut a cube out of the center of it and at that point you know he says wait maybe there is something different I'm not sure I mean now. to hear more about it because we're shops we like to play with things we like to push the limits on things but not many people want to make the commitment cuz it's so costly to carry the inventory and they're scared to actually do it because if you screw it up you know you lose all the money so I see more of it now but back when I was doing it there really wasn't anybody else pushing the limits maybe a few people I don't want to feel like I was the only one but you know all the money so I see more of it now but back when I was doing it there really wasn't anybody else pushing the limits maybe a few people I don't want to feel like I was the only one but you know possibly it could have been a few people but you know

I have enjoyed the restaurant many times my favorite steak restaurant in all of Los Angeles thank you for the reasons why I wanted to bring you in here because this is really crazy time for restaurants and I mean that's basically that that's the gist of it just a crazy time it's it's bananas it's absolutely crazy trying to just get a handle on it it's just overwhelming so for me it's just head down and cook try to help people you know that are need and then we'll figure it out later I know you been doing a lot of cooking for First Responders and for hospitals and it would have you been doing with your time now that this is well it really first started we're basically everything just everybody was just staring at each other and saying what what is going on what's Happening and I had I didn't lay off any of my employees and it's all happening everybody else is closing up shop and you know I'm just overwhelmed as a business owner what am I going to do and I actually had my GM come up to me and you know cuz I'm trying to figure it out if that's what's going to happen mygm came up to me and says Hey listen you know we're with you we know you didn't create the corner of a virus you know you do what you have to do and we know your heart's in the right place and I was just like I just like I'm just let out of breath invite okay well I appreciate you saying that and then I was just head down get down to business with it and we had to cut back 90% of the staff and we were just like just cook know who you know who's going to buy it or anything it's just crazy so we just tell her but it's the steakhouse call APL and it's in LA in what what is that like the Theater District what is that called night of Hamilton Premiere which is a big deal for us as business and you know all the sudden it's like it stops we I went to your place right after we saw something that was always Frozen podcast is what so devastating about this is there's a lot of people that have lost lost businesses in the past because Mark is changed and because maybe they didn't do what they could have done or work as hard as they could have work but for so many small businesses and restaurants and bars they been doing the best work they've ever been able to do they have they're putting in the hours they're showing up they're putting out these amazing meals and then because of nothing that's their fault it just shut off it's crazy and without any real understanding of how long it's going to take or when when you're going to mean we just had a conversation of saying we should just talk about this on are we were just talkin The Green Room yet like there's no clear indication of when you'll be able to go back to work and serve food to the general public and what that's going to look like and I know it's it's it's the unknown but how I'm investing my time a lot of other restaurant towards our investment of time is trying to serve take out to the public but also doing charitable and things to provide for first-line you know Frontline you know that Jimmy Kimmel and I teamed up to for every meal that we prepare we donate a meal to St Joseph's Center so I was the first thing was for our attitude was like you want to help people and let them know that they're cared about and then the other thing is to really just keep even just the five people working switch we don't even know if people are going to order so we jumped into it like that and then these services such as a Frontline that way which comes in and brings it's like the glue between us in the hospitals and we we prepare meals 450 at a time for the hospital workers and you guys package them up and then have them delivered to the hospital so we'll just sit there they'll say hey we have a need for this particular Hospital you know Hollywood Presbyterian okay great 150 people we package up the meals order off the menu or do you just prepare we prepare healthy things things that they wouldn't appreciate and then also sometimes I just serve meatloaf gravy and mashed potatoes healthy sometimes they just need a little bit more of like you know warmth and Light comfort food you know it is but that's what makes it but it works like that Comfort like when you say macaroni and cheese comfort food yeah that's what people are gravitating towards where my menu is right now it's all comfort food and barbecue really is that because that's what people were asking for well cook steaks right that's my read on the market you know I had experienced a similar thing where things shut down and people needed help and that was around during 9/11 you know our attitude was like how can we help people those you know those who need and and really comfort food really country has blossomed out of that so when you're doing right so you're doing take out as well and how does that work today order online or do they call up account how's that working prefer curbside I'm as opposed to just doing Postmates and GrubHub mean if people can do that and so will get people to come deliver that was good to that cuz how does that work Postmates and GrubHub is that good for your business is that is it less good than people ordering directly from you like he doesn't work it's great for a business because it gives us a greater range and we really can't deliver so it gives us an opportunity so it's a whole nother Market but you know they charge a back-end fee on it so we have to upcharge it a bit and you know for us we prefer just to kind of cell directly to the customer curbside which we doing good clip of 2 is probably about half and half so what would if you had to guess like what's a cup city is as far as like three businesses like full-on wide-open where people can come and sit down versus now like how much is it deteriorated it's it's maybe 10 15% of the business while I'm too yeah that's why I'm just focusing on like I just got to keep moving that's how I'm emotionally getting through this thing and also keeping the business going is basically just cook for people that are in need you know folks hospitals and then and the neighborhood just ride around us so it's tough spot and you have obviously have a lot of friends that are in the restaurant Bill yes and if so what is Hawk all the time what's the general feeling like what is what's the temperature like how how's everybody dealing with this you know first of all knowing that a good number of us are not going to be around because just even figuring out all the rules in the laws that are going to happen Stingray or unfolding and they're just very hard to read and get a clear understanding what's happening so a lot of people just don't know the unknown you know landlord so you know we're deferring rent but the same time you know they're not accepting of that so we're like on the hook and we don't even really know where we're going to end up with it even just the PPP loans what is BPP it's that paycheck Protection Program and that's really a government-funded assistance to Supply restaurants and all businesses I think of all the loans given out I think only 5% of all the ones giving out were actually two restaurants so they they give you a chunk of money essentially that covers 8 weeks of payroll and also a portion of that for twenty 75% has to be spent on payroll coverage for 8 weeks and then the other 25% is for rent and utilities so it's like an 8-week let life so and so far how long has it been now we're looking at like 6 weeks of lockdown so far or something like that like what is like longer it's got to be a little bit longer like from me and feels it it probably is that I don't even have concept of time I'm working so hard it's just me and four other people and two on the front and two with me in the kitchen we're doing dishes or cooking or cleaning or doing everything has a great sense of you know what you accomplished call from a nurse Thanking us for the healthy meal that we prepared for them and that makes it worth it but you know like from me I'm actually like inspired and just kicking it into high gear I'm not going to like just wallering it I'm just going to keep working head down do what I do and just hope at the end of the day at the end of people have to eat so the world's going to be different you know probably not going to be the same at all and charger for my business but what choice do I have fcbd drink delicious like that so when you're operating at 10% capacity obviously this is not sustainable 10% of your business is not sustainable that's right because operating costs and all the above and then you're obviously in a very high-profile area which must be extraordinary rent to would just not paying the rent is not sustainable that's right because operating costs and all the above and then you're obviously in a very high-profile area which must be extraordinary rent to would just not paying the rent you know we're just pushing it off we can't we don't have the money for it so we'll have to work it out

I'm really hoping really hoping is that some sort of a rapid test for covid-19 like the 15-minute one that we came because I heard something about some saliva test if they're trying to develop it's extremely rapid that would be amazing if you could just test people right before they come in your restaurant or no one has to worry about s*** yeah you know gearing Up For What the new world is going to be temperature things not good enough because of your asymptomatic but you're still spreading it like why we're pretending like you that's avoiding science we need to find out whether or not people actually have it this temperature thing is just whether or not you're sitting right now it doesn't mean you don't have it if your if your temperature is low it's it's real weird and that's what's being that's what's going to be mandated on us I mean there's a certain series of things that we have to do and it's either nobody knows for sure or what not but you know well at a certain point in time I think we really need to make a decision as to whether or not we're just going to allow this to take over our world or whether we're going to do what we can do to protect the sick you know if you're in contact with people that have a weakened immune system you're going to have to have a different life than someone who doesn't if your person with a weakened immune system if you're going to have a day if you're an older person you're going to have to have a different life but for the vast majority of us this is this we're going to have to give people the freedom to make choices and to do what they want to do with their own life their own help if you're giving people the freedom D terrible food the card attacks or killing people as quickly as anything right cancer is killing people as quick as anything cigarettes kill a half a million people a year there's no government mandate is trying to get stop smoking cigarettes in fact there's not a single word ever spoken about in presidential candidate campaigns and governor governor campaigns Congressional Campaign no one's out there trying to get people to stop smoking cigarettes but yet it's killing a half a million people every year in this country alone we're so strange and I don't understand cigarettes the choice and infectious diseases are not worried about protecting people who have a compromised immune system but it's not most people you know did the vast majority of people that are going to get this or not it's not going to be fatal we have to figure out how to protect the people that are high-risk but to quarantine the whole country it just seems like maybe it was a good move to do initially but we can't sustain that so now we have to figure out how to move forward and there's all these protests all over at California now I'm sure you seen it in the Orange County and dissent in Huntington Beach and there's counties in Northern California that we're opening up everything open up restaurants are open in a bars we're going back to business Texas is basically back to business Montana is doing the same and you know they have a modified approach to dealing this and we're going to have to figure it out on the wrong way but I just don't want us to lose I don't want to lose any people but I certainly don't want us to lose restaurants either I don't want to lose bars I don't want to lose comedy clubs I don't want us to lose small businesses what it look like I mean here we are talk about a comedy club like how do you even like okay no speed apart and then doesn't have a certain energy in the room like what type of world do we have you know in front of us the way it's slated right now I don't know what kind of government overreach are we going to have our people going to come in and police this you know I quit I mean there's not real science to that either by the way you know they have a bunch of people jammed into a room with her six feet apart or not you're touching things you're breathing on each other mean I don't I don't know I think you should allow people to do what they want to do you know if it gets to a certain point where we have some sort of a viable cure or a treatment like there's this was that stuff called again this antiviral medication that dr. fauci has been rims Boyd we're hoping for that right we're hoping that there's some sort of a treatment where it's not a death sentence for people even with immune-compromised systems so I mean I just I feel so bad for people like you and for all the people out there that only has amazing restaurants that for my favorite things to do is to go to a nice restaurant and it would be in for me to go to work such a shame if because of this pandemic all that goes away I mean and what kind of A build-up are we looking at try to bring those places back I know I don't have the answers so you know for me it's okay to be done if you had a magic wand what would you do if someone said Adam fix this it's difficult for me because you know I hear your point about I've just such great empathy for you know people that would get sick just by someone else's negligence and and for me so that it's a bit of a tussle here because you know I want to just you know and you have liked an economy that is just tanking and businesses that are going to go to be no business but then on the other hand you know you have people that are defenseless some people that look healthy fantastic you know like a friend that 45 years old goes in and they're on a ventilator it's like you can't give the answers I don't know if I'm even prepared to give you a summary on it I haven't formulated in my brain the way that I've just been coping and I'm just trying to hold on and you know for me I'm just trying to put Faith in the fact that people have to eat and people like you really want to have restaurants around and in the end we're going to find a way and the only way I know to get through this is just a head down and work and be really helpful to people that are in need and be there for the community and feed them but outside of that you know no no God like if I had the I don't know how to answer you do you know nobody else that's what I don't even if I was in control I mean you know because I don't want people to die and severally by people's negligence but on the other hand I just don't know what such an incredibly messy situation was no clear-cut answer because of the fact that you do have these people that are seemingly healthy 35 year old people that are getting it and dying and it doesn't make sense and then you have you know you're all guy World War II David you know it like you see that too so it's like what how do I think about this do I think about it like the common cold will think about it like the flu do I think about it like some new thing that we I mean everyone is unsure and that's what makes a key is for us to get the vaccine olipac seen as quick as possible you know so that we can get it you know at least have some type of defense for this because and I don't know how long that's going to take people talking about Achilles amount of time but about takes a long time to develop a vaccine correctly mean they're they're going through a bunch of Trials right now we've talked about it before there's several ongoing including ones with human beings that they're testing the vaccine on there was a woman in Seattle she was the first ever person to receive is Coronavirus vaccine there it is story on her in the monitoring her you know what does what is that the only way for us to be sure yeah I mean because responsibly I mean even just me into the restaurant don't get me wrong I want the business on I want to have a bar that's pussing I want to have a bye bye want people to be happy and well-fed enjoy themselves but you can just get Twitchy about it yeah it happened so quickly too that's what's weird like do the whole world shifted so rapidly and people like you were the ones I mean obviously the people to get hit the hardest of the people a with a disease and be that work with people with the disease right the people that are that have a disease and then the the First Responders and Hospital workers and and all the different people that work to help those people there there the most devastated by this there are so many small businesses right now that are in this position that you're in where there's so much uncertainty is the keys going to be the rent game I mean at the end of the day for ladies business that's the looming factor is it's being on the on the hook you know not not only just to make rent the following month with compromised immune a 50% occupancy you know if you could imagine if you're paying rent for that you know you have a model in terms of how much income you know someone brought out the the the possibility of like instead of in a forgiving the rent taking the rent and putting it on the back end of it so right now essentially the for the three months you're not you don't need to pay the rent but you'll be at on three months at the end of your lease you know that for me makes sense but frosted turn around then you know work at you know Ken 15% capacity and then all the sudden get a bill for six figures say okay you do this in a work at 10 15% capacity and then all the sudden get a bill for six figures say okay you do this so who's going to who's going to fill my shoes like so if I can't make it at my location was going to come along and take on that rent any but nobody's going to do it so they're stuck we're stuck what are we going to do

Shelby lady in Louisiana she got bit by an alligator should try to take a picture with it so I can hold on to it video of a guy running over one in it even though it is so big at turn back and bit his f****** calf really yeah even though it's like Dragon rabbit it's not it's not good it's a night for the world you keep saying that man and he is four year-old you ever seen before isn't fair you'll get some kids they look like they literally made out of marshmallows like marshmallows covered by a thin it's a bummer thin-skinned to bumps like did you see that that 5 year old that stole the car to go buy a Lamborghini dim but this video of his family talk enthrall thick is f*** and he stole this car cuz Mom can we can have a Lamborghini five-year-old driving an SUV on a Utah freeway and then he goes out I'm going to California by a Lamborghini and how much money have because I have $3 in my wallet so they spotted the vehicle driving 35 miles an hour in this five-year-old is just driving on the highway that's what a confident kid pulled over just how crazy is how old are you 5 you're 5 years old wow his sister fell asleep while she's babysitting going around this gigantic baby it's about 3 years old I think he looks creepy adult giant giant big mama big baby tells haters he's actually healthy

which is Rachael ostovich going to fight Paige VanZant fight with a panther walking off this guy ever had it on her that is going to be the hottest fight ever ever and Rachael ostovich like that's her husband to deed tapped-out Boogeyman I was super impressed I said a monster International competitor he's he's a gorilla man he's so strong the way through them around 2 I was like I was so impressed at how he got out of an armbar we explodes out of stuff like really explosive really strong but that clamp down on that head and arm choke and apparently cording to jail shows one is doing the commentary in the pay-per-view he said that's Austin's favorite to Mexico to 7 people watched the tapped on Craig Jones snapped his armpits snap his ankle what are they saying to each other but Venom saying you broke my leg while they're still going holy f*** yeah yeah you got it more than once to has broken shin bone and is digging on it with another heel hook my people watch that for the very best Grapplers on the planet Earth is like I don't tap the heel hooks I don't tap the heel hooks so right there he's right there you're so because when you get a break like that you can infection control is really bad it's really bad on his right leg

downtown show begins with this it's so good it makes me so proud to be part of the UFC countdown show is so good man the countdown show so good and you see Justin personal Justin how hilarious Justin gaethje he was I hope he breaks my nose so I can get it fixed crazy cuz if you hear him talk his personality is mine set the way you purchase latitude but we know what to expect me a b**** dude but you know what to expect with gauges like scuba diving or snorkeling and you and hurricane Waters and you got to get past the initial part and it's a motherfuker get past that you'll be all right but good luck man cuz he's ways are f******, yeah he's he's a different kind of guy because he gets hit yeah he'll stand in front of you is a really good example that but I think the land of a notify first we took on short notice and second of all he knew was good man is very awkward he doesn't just cracked is no space doesn't give you any space jumps all over you if he gets you hurt or throw himself right into the fire is like he's not worried about losing and that that's a real life people say that sometimes but I don't think they really mean it as a gift he really mean that they gift the real gift for him yeah he's got a very unusual mind helping Tony as either but this fight to me is more entertaining I think so too I think so too weird to say I think he's more entertaining than anybody he's so f****** wild and then Tony's more entertaining than anybody to like grey everybody fights Tony looks like they fell off a train everybody there they're all look at the Cowboys faced with a f****** mess on the list of the last like nine or ten people that Tony's fought everyone looks like got shot in the face looks like Ted Bundy victims it's not everyone's face is just a f****** holy wreck everybody looks dead and the cardio the Tony Ferguson cardio that's why you got to get past that first 0 takedowns in UFC 00 takedown attempts zero who's going to win the fight I don't need as far as if you want to make money get use a good dog but being popped with against Tony Ferguson that lasted eight years this thing is gaethje comes in and he does he comes in with his head lower than that snap City for Tony Ferguson vs anacondas and what kind of he has he hasn't been in a Scramble with a real high-level guy the big unknown and I think the Tony is one of the trickiest submission artists in the sport he's very sneaky he catches Doris's and scrambles he's got leglocks he's got triangles tap Kevin Lee off his back with a triangle he basically can do everything I wouldn't be surprised if Tony at one point starts diving for those ankles cuz if you're not supposed to birds in Jiu-Jitsu that's that's where it gets dicey for guys when you get in this Rabbit Hole menu can't keep up a specimen training it keep up and Tony has a leg lock game is so creative with his striking and it's almost like he moves I can't tell you I love it though I love it I can't wait. When I cannot wait cannot wait to me this is one of the most Stacked Cards in the history of the Sports UFC 102 bottle UFC 100 I love it I can't wait I cannot wait. Wait it's a giant card the card is stacked is one of the most Stacked Cards in the history of the Sports UFC 102 by forgetting

here we are we got Friday and then Saturday's fight and I got to go I'm going to be in Jacksonville Florida going to be doing commentary and Empty Arena no one's going to be near me everybody has to be really far away from each other we're going to be on separate corners of the Octagon which is which f****** sucks you DC and and Anna kiss is when things go crazy agree like that will risk him and we're all healthy real fun will not only we all healthy and fine with tested for clean we don't have it it's not like we don't have to be far apart from each other I got tested yesterday I got the results back from my nose swab that's negative and then two days before that I took anybody test that's negative to 100% negative so whose idea is this the state the state just has real Richard guidelines more to come with me he couldn't come you can only imagine what can we do to Kelvin it doesn't come on man what the actual death rate is versus what everyone thought it was going to be good at reading said I don't know 10 to 50 times less deadly than they thought it was going to be pretty big especially when they start getting things like if you seen the there's a prison where they test these prisoners and 98% of them what had it and I had no idea to UCS but it's not true about the heart attack the heart disease could someone else brought it up to me today someone else who's a pretty smart person in New York I looked like I couldn't even find the numbers so I don't know where they got those numbers is it weird that the the death rate went down once the flu seasons over they talk about that other account and fluids covid-19 but it's not what we were worried about what we thought it was going to be shut down you need to be precautious they need to follow social distancing guidelines where massive possible special until we get it all wrapped up and figure out what it is and in terms of like what the treatment like they have this new antiviral treatment that they say is underlying health conditions if you don't it should be up to me if I want to wear it did you know that the average age of covet user of people who get Cove in die-hards higher than the average age of death that's nuts that's nuts I'm so glad you liked came on is that a crazy frog some f****** knowledge fat people are so scared of the doctor again say that we're looking at Stats I think you can reach that tomorrow so you can build a f****** planet you know where we are right with the respiratory disease people up with the respiratory disease it's really bad for people that are obese the really bad for old piercings bad for old people these people though

but that lady that new press secretary she's recently that video to a question in your life Jamie stop f****** Elon Musk flamethrower video play the video like Leonardo DiCaprio get it all like I tried to play got you with her do you want to take your word back because she said that Trump is not going to let the coronavirus come to the country and which he's saying the reason why they're shutting down of travel from Asia is because they're worried about the coronavirus coming to Country and Trump's not going to let that happen and they they tried to take what she said and then take it out of context or frame and take a look at what she was saying that not going to have free travel where people have coronavirus because it's going to bring the virus in not that it's the only way the virus is going to get here the virus got here anyway but came with the fly regardless Jamie read it like under a question to Trump that's why Trump is so hard in the paint on them I know but he goes too hard the problems yours too much too much too much about what they think like you ready you want to do it now and then she had a big smile and walked off as a trying to say he's like you prepared for that she went thank you have a good day you think she prepare for it with all those stats and she read right in front of you do they need to have your boy Elon Musk to get on that phone because of the sum of the middle of doing five things and switching the camera that we need to talk and however I do know that he's on the wrong side he's on the side of the bad guys full page and make it loud similar questions does Vox want to take back that they Proclaim that the coronavirus would not be a deadly pandemic to The Washington Post when it take back that they told Americans to get a grip the flu is bigger than a coronavirus to The Washington Post likewise. Of the coronavirus does the New York Times back of the virus may be spreading faster than the virus itself and finally once again the Washington Post would they like to take back that the government should not respond aggressively to the coronavirus I'll leave you with those questions and answers to ask her a question and that's what you asked this the f****** and then you can see his Mega Knight that is a question

he said that Dina I got to talk to you this weekend if he tells me I can't tell you or I'll tell you fight for and that's what my fight brains going towards Connor not at. Love Is Just beeping I don't think so happy you know why no belt no belt not to worry about GSP taking off and taking off GSP fights my husband all that beach hike and a nice guy versus the bad boy died and Conor fight GSP Nick Diaz Daniel Nick Diaz GSP Connor same card fight Island Islands the Virgin Island guy actually these days that's why I thought it might be but you did Nick Nick Diaz or Nick Nick would work because Mazda. Beat up his brother exactly and Redemption he asked for that fight but it's always tough with the negotiations of the DSs future Diaries to hit off camera at him and his manager would like to know it's Connor Mazza. That's our fight they told us they want it to that the fight that was months ago last wow that's a big fight most about Connor Jesus goodbye get talking will be off the charts depressed or that man yeah you can't scare Mazda. Either a big fella 55 before I mean for a long time but it wasn't his weight class that's what I said that's that's what they're talkin about as much as I love my New York hot dog in town so you got to meet him a little bit halfway he's a Top Dog in town but I'm telling you man when you go to the UFC nuc the pop that moms it all gets there just change in the star over the world as Connor is is not Connor's kind of eclipse a sport but Mars When I was one of the biggest stars would be Bonkers just straight-up Bonkers, said he wants to fight three times this year but that's not happening so they can give some big fights damn man Mazda doll Connor easily I think that fight would be Bonkers just straight-up Bonkers, said he wants to fight three times this year but that's not happening so they can give some big fights damn man Mazda doll Connor

you see the Canada banned assault weapons they banned all salt weapons is like a 2-year Grace. You got like 2 years then you got to turn in your AR-15 that is not making the the gun people here happy very very upset and people pointing something out 2018 a video of a Canadian Sheriff discussing it he said out of all the shootings that I've ever been a part of where this illegal activity like that and horrible crimes are being committed to goes it's never with a license going over he's not licensed gun owner sees people that got these guns are going to get these guns illegally anyway just cuz they're not legal doesn't even like it they're going to do any legal thing you'll need a legal gun to do an illegal thing and if you think that's something all you going to do is make it more difficult and more money for the Gun Runner's it's going to for sure it's going to be something where the it's more risky for them but it's also going to be more profitable can be hard to get a gun over there if he were still going to do it they bring Coke in from South America they're going to bring guns it's going to happen but only criminals going to happen now yeah getting any legal weapon is the nicest thing anybody getting an assault weapons doing perfectly put I wish for sure but that's not this world doesn't mean you don't love people just means like you got to look at things practically can't look at things the way you want them to be you got to look things the way they are the way they are as there's more guns than there are people and to say you can't have a gun anymore it's like okay well who gets to grab a gun and who's going to take the guns away and what are we going to do with the Constitution and why can we vote on this or should this be a part of the Bill of Rights where this is how we are and this is how this country is established is it things we agree on we don't want to vote on whether or not we have free speech we need free speech should we vote on whether or not we have the 2nd Amendment some people say no some people say has a mental health problem we're not dealing with a gun problem the gun problem is that the mentally ill people get the guns it's not a gun problem and there's a lot of people that want to have guns to protect themselves from mentally ill people that are violent and it's also the news again there's a lot of this goes back to news for me and then glorifying these people this is what they say you know what I mean they know they're going to get average they know that their name is going to get out there it's not it's not acceptable if we didn't do that then they wouldn't do that much more to me than the guns if we take away the guns we have the guns like if we cover it differently things will be different without a doubt it's true but people want to know what the name of the guy who shot up school is just one of those things about human nature like if there's a video of Tom Cruise falling off the back of a plane you would watch it he fell to his death you watch that video wouldn't you well yeah yeah I think that the government could help with that if they're going to before I think before restricting guns I think they could step in and and then maybe run it by some psychiatrist and scientists and whatnot and see what they think about the media part of a crying because again I mean like these people want to be Legends they want to be it certainly has an effect on this applies to what we're talking about if I mentioned Eva Braun didn't have go to the bunker to die with Hitler and this person said that she did it because she knew that by doing that against Hitler's wishes that she would inevitably die with Hitler and therefore because she was kept behind the scenes and on the back burner so much become a bigger part of History so she could have decided to live a normal life maybe get prosecuted later or whatever but sort of live or go to prison or whatever could've decided to live a normal life maybe get prosecuted later or whatever but sort of live or go to prison or whatever or go to the bunker and die with Hitler and be part of History forever and be represented as the woman that was with Hitler

kids all the time like when people leave a python in a room with their baby this horror stories I've read a bunch of those python drops down and kill the baby I've heard even like a python comes from a neighboring apartment drops down to the ceiling kill the kid wow bro and you see the face coming over your head and you realize what's going on and it's clamping down your head it detaches is it spread around you like oh my God you can't move your arms you think your shoulder is broken I didn't squeeze as doing this and it's got his mouth on your f****** head that slowly starting to take you into its body I get scared of animals that like aren't even threatening like I get scared of like squirrels and what not if they look at me the wrong way Lutheran right next to you in a tree and some of those things pretend like cuz I live right next to a really awesome Park and I run through almost everyday in some of these squirrels they're like people squirrels like if they must get that alot of something from humans walking by and they will pretend like they're going to like they will just get right up in your face aggressive squirrel I got scared at my chair then my hallway the other day I thought this is so stupid but I was coming out of the bathroom was the end of the night and my chair that I have this one extra chair that sort of like moves around the living end end up at the cross the end of the hallway and it was just sort of hanging out and for some reason it's sort of looked like there was like a crazy person like Cecil I like super scared like like the type of scared because I thought it was a person leaning back smiling and immediately my brain register that as if there's someone leaning back smiling in your living room or completely fought to write like my soul my heart literally like felt like it was I'm like f*** here as in a 7 minute that you just watch the joker now that's some crazy person was in your house now it's not just watched but I did watch that he would just lay on his back and pick up peanuts and holder squirrels that come over and put their hands on his hand and then take the peanut in and run away with it they did it all the time and it won't even go that far they go few feet from him and then just start eating their peanut and then other squirrels of come by and they apparently had some sort of a they didn't do it so often people know they could just as long as you're not making much movement you look safe and hold it out there they'll come get it from you but did you see the video of the f****** monkey riding a motorcycle stop and try to steal a baby unbelievable if you haven't seen this this is the most 20/20 video you will ever see it is 20/20 incapsulate like the world's gone here's a monkey on a motorcycle that goes zipping up his street Bales off the motorcycle and tries to steal a baby my favorite part of it is I I watched it like 20 times in a row and I love how the guy taking the from his top story apartment like is laughing it starts and you don't see the monkey and then he sees the monkey on the motorcycle and he starts laughing and he's laughing more as it gets closer and he even laughs one more beat when the monkey grabs the kid cuz he's like haha you know like horror movie at that part dude and the guy runs out chasing after the monkey monkeys will kill you and eat you that's a fact if you're a baby in particular monkey kills 12 day old baby after snatching it from his breastfeeding mother and family home where is that at where that take place popped up on the cities in search for food amid environmental destruction this is November 2018. I was going to say because did you see that thing about what was going on in Thailand but it was nobody in the street so there was just like hordes of monkeys rather street that are starving their used Taurus feeding them so they just hordes of monkeys running through like where the f*** is there but where's all the food is crazy it's so weird it's so weird and then on top of that rats in New York City rats in New York City there's no restaurants open anymore right so the restaurants are not dropping off the normal amount of garbage and these rats are accustomed to it their whole ecosystem is dependent upon a look at this starving monkey gangs battle in Thailand as coronavirus keeps tourists away into that I guarantee they will kill you and eat you guarantee you you're a four-year-old kid you'll stumble into that your dad they'll tear you apart you know they don't have rules such a strange animal like they're smart and they're sneaking ugly this video no social distancing was still ever this is rats those like rap yeah they're so dangerous other monkeys being mean to them and everything trying to eat him and kill him look at that f****** apart oh my God this is the thing about rats now rats are cannibalizing each other for sure they're going to kill babies and eat babies these these little crazy monkeys don't people feed them good but keep feed them better feed him poison too many of them rats are cannibalizing each other for sure they're going to kill babies and eat babies these these little crazy monkeys don't people feed them good but keep feed them better feed him poison too many of them

get what else you going to do so you so Tiger King killed sometime and in the aftermath of Tiger King killed some more time but then we still got like six more weeks then what what do we do now I think we're supposed to be May 15th right yeah I think that's the latest projected date stop people from going to the parks and beaches what was a new thing today yeah I think you know what it is we can't have nice things give us something nice we do not you know like a little kid flipping something nice and they break so it's like okay we're going to let you go to the beach it's like no you're not supposed to be playing volleyball and lay it like it like just you're supposed to keep moving right you're supposed to like walk or ride a bike or go sir for this and it but you weren't supposed to just mingle Gathering groups and of course we're Gathering groups were partying and I got right now if you can't you don't gotta hate but you do walk around I was riding I wrote I rode my motorcycle on PCH and you would see people they parked their car along PCH right and they sit on the car and kind of like look at the beach and stuff like that so I guess you each one of them had a car's distance between them cuz you you're sitting on your car the next person sitting on their car but then I pass this Neptune's Net which is like a big motorcycle Hangout maybe 20 bikes in a row part and the guys were all just kind of hanging out and it was like no man like that you can't do that you know I mean like like a motorcycles ultimate social distancing vehicle right here you're by yourself you are in a jacket gloves and helmet you're not breathing on him but when you stop you can't just all hang out like normal you know that was the part that that I think that that's where they like no we're not going to do that I think that that's what they're like no we're not going to do it cuz I think you know this Georgia and Florida whatever it's like they're like the experiment man they're like yeah let's let them get out and then let's wait two weeks and see what happens

80s was a special time and there's so many things this so many things 80s Miami Vice right there so many things 80s that were just 80s pastel suits with no socks or no socks on always loafers no socks not a bad show back that was a Ferrari that car that was a different Ferrari I think that was what he had earlier he had that one and then he got the Testarossa that's weird being the other guy though right right and you know in the first scene in the Transformers when they're in the desert and it it's like there's like five military guys you know and then the first three to get killed as like mad at me one of those guys and then you watch Tyrese Gibson in the other guy go on to this billion dollar franchise in like you got killed in the first scene like you live fu movies I've done maybe 5 I am very strict in my casting I can be a security guard or bouncer play the security guard as a bouncer and it's almost like a cartoon right to listen I let you down first fast and furious came out it's like okay we got cars we got women we got guns do we even need a script to even need a script just turn it loose and that's what every movie right that's like yeah just make the car is bigger make the gun's bigger make the guys bigger drifting right that women are hotter if you watch The Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift apparently every school girl in Japan is wearing a Catholic School mini skirt at all times but look at I mean why wouldn't they know it's a it's a cartoon formula that works that's amazing it's a formula that works only 6 billion worldwide flash stuff like that you know how could it not work how could it not work listen man I love muscle cars and I hate those movies so what does that say what that was part of the first the first movies were muscle versus tuner right that way even got you they got you in the beginning you know what I'm saying in the beginning all the time right he had that Dodge Chrysler whatever it was yeah he had he had that through like the first three movies right movies man Biker Boyz biker thank you Biker Boyz has to be one of the I just turned someone on to it it's it's Laurence Fishburne in a motorcycle drag racing movie when was it made and it's not just him Orlando III is Kid Rock with a dog collar Kid Rock in the dog, it's a life oh my God yeah man I love I love bad Car and Bike movies I love those in the other bad movies I like the badass chick like she kicks everyone's at but it's like a bad movie but she's badass going through it whenever you know whenever they're like they hit me with you may also like I'm like you damn right I may also like to see it I want to see it yes yeah Biker Boyz and torque fight towards another one biker boys wear the same movie they tried to do a Fast and Furious on motorcycles with no torque Stars Ice Cube and it's like a little white Biker Group in a black biker group and ice cubes in it and and Dane isn't it Dane Cook's in it and just yeah they were horrible move but they were, and is a motorcycle rider there even better because it's even worse but what the hell why not I don't know yeah he's a bad guy in a lot of movies really good as a bad guy could you not watch this a lot of movies come on man how do you not watch this

looks like that was a thing right when they first said guns are not essential right then they pulled back on that Mesa no I owned a gun back in the 80s I used to target shoot with some guys I worked with up in Oakland but I I bought a gun right because it all it is went down and be like why'd you buy a gun I said because the purge went from a movie to a documentary and you make an appointment with the gun store can you show up and you wait outside like date they come when I bought a Glock 45 so I checked with the gang Bangerz they like that it's the one you hold sideways but but anyway you had to wait outside you know six feet apart or whatever and they brought you in one at a time and and then I was able to do what I did the background check right away the people who fight against it tested the background check like you like you understand how have you done this do you know how easy these questions are there currently a restraining order out against you like well who who would check yes or no at box and the guy was cool this was this was one of my concerns was I was cuz I don't you know I don't know what gun store to go to write so so I was harassing man don't let me walk into some place where there's a big Confederate flag on the wall the one of the big things was the size of my hands right side big hand so he's kind of like yeah but you got to try it literally try it on and see how it fits and the Glock fit my hand really well and then I was asking about shotguns and he was like telling me cuz I was fired shotguns I've done that skeet shooting stuff and he was talking to me about tactical shotguns and so so he said yeah you want to get he said you probably won't quantities but you don't really have to aim too well when you got one in he just blast in the direction I like that sounds good so I'm probably going to get one of those too but yeah but it was cool and and you know I get it like I'm you know it's funny cuz people say that people have accused me of being anti-gun and I'm like no I'm not anti-gun I'm Pro common sense I'm Pro common sense but United joke I said listen I got 50 round clip for self-defense like if 50 people want to kill you at the same time maybe it's you part of your personality you need to look at I'll tell you one thing I've always got about guns I'm a motorcycle guy I'm a car guy and I know some gun people and from the mechanical artistic Point like this is you know what I mean I get that like yeah that are beautiful Michael Stampley you look like this is a beautiful thing and if you want to shoot it and shoot Targets in this and that that great if you want to hunt like you hunt I called you you remember I texted you why I said Joe is dish it goes down I'm coming to your bunker cuz I know you know how to kill animals or like I got a friend who knows how to kill animals imma go hang out with him it would be way more difficult because you break an ankle and you die you you get infection and you die and good luck finding animals all time and what if you're one of the heroes or what if you run out of bullets you can't make your own bullets if you get real weird real quick but but all of that aside but don't those are the people who I'm like those are the ones we need to watch the ones who like I got to have this whole Bunker full of ammo and the government's the government's coming to get me and all that like those are the ones so went when I talk about gun laws and red that's why I say Common Sense there's a common-sense level to it you know that that I'm okay with but but no I'm not anti I'm not anti-gun I mean we're all one side or the other and Common Sense is in the middle if if we had a government of Congress whatever that could debate and talked about and have input and say hey the hunters say that we need this in and you know now it all makes sense then you come up with it with a reasonable gun thing like for instance I think that cars are a good example like we regulated guns way we regulate cars and it sent you have to have a license and when you sell it even privately if I sell my car to you I notify the government that cake I just sold my car to Joe VIN number blah blah blah he's not responsible for the system worked we have a system of common-sense unfortunately we just have one extreme to the other did the thing about no guns it's like what even this this already millions of guns out there so that that's impossible like that's an unreasonable thing to say because like okay first of all a there's only 20 million people in the f****** continent and it's the size of the contiguous United States with more people in California than there is in Australia unfortunately used us as an example do you know in Canada had a mass shooting not too long ago but it's one of those without an answer that's the problem and you don't see the other side of it then you're going to always have this polarized argument right people wouldn't would lose that if they lose the I have to win and just like letters come up with a compromise that works but the people like ridiculous NRA people they don't think you should give up any ground cuz if you give a Benny ground from where we are right now it's just a slippery slope and then keep taking and they do have a point with some people now a lot of people that used to think like that now or buying guns or 6 but you need to get a gun he said that it was a 180 switch and happen immediately when everything was shutting down in the worst-case possibility rather than we live in a nice area what we're fine yeah and and again you're right either extreme is is impossible neither one wants to give up in a ditch and you both have to give up and itch you know neither one wants to give an inch but you both have to give an itch and you let you know and again it's what we were talking about earlier where the federal government the federal government does need to be involved in a sense where you have like Chicago that has a huge gun problem partly because you can just drive over to Indiana and buy anything you want and bring it to Chicago is that what the problem is Gary Indiana to Chicago Drive some of if not the strictest gun laws in the country guy new guy so you go down south you go to Virginia North Carolina South Carolina buy any gun you want open sell them in New York because remember we are border so you know there's no border between France you drive I hope that stays the way it is I know that's a terrible thing to people bringing guns from Virginia but I hope the Border thing stays the same type of federal oversight to this so that again what what you can buy what wired to buy what's required if you had to provide ID to show who you are and where you live so now if you're in the guy you should have more than that you should definitely do that but that's what I'm saying one of the more lacks States like Virginia and I'm just using the example I don't know specific laws but or something like that you know you can't just go there and be live in California live in New York and go there and buy one like you got to prove yeah I live in Arizona so I can buy the EXO I'm subject to Arizona's laws if your Citizens United States can you drive to Arizona he just buy a gun like you live in Arizona from what I understand and listen I'm far from an expert and I noticed I think that's where they said you have a lot of another and that's where it gets really big yeah that's a little what the rules are, by all kinds of illegal s*** right so I think you you know I think in a gun store you need to provide ID and stuff like that but the gun shows yeah it's really kind of a gray area didn't Bruno from Sacha Baron Cohen is Bruno character go to a gun show at Super gay you know I get you I like guns I have friends who are really gun nuts in our friends have so many guns they don't know how many guns they have they love guns and they love him for the mechanical thing it said hobby like some people really into muscle cars some people have motorcycles absolutely cool with that because I'd be worried about you know he was one like that guy's waiting for a reason I have a friend who's a nut and he got carjacked in the shotgun kill them most of the gun guys I knew they collected them like you said it was like muscle cars or motorcycles or whatever it was just their thing and they were good with any other thing is the gun safety you know these idiots like this so many stories like that a gun was in the back seat and the Kid shot the other kid and it's it's like come on that there has to be some kind of safety and liability issue you know you'd like tomorrow you never do that I would never do that it's the problem is you taking something with god-like powers and you give it tomorrow you have to somehow get you dump Oregon regulate tomorrow night that you have to somehow get you done forgot regulate them talk to a few people and it should be like competency test

example of how things can change rank is Michigan used to be Detroit used to be the most profitable or the richest state or the richest city rather me get this out right Detroit used to be the richest zip if you used to be acutely rich city back when they're making cars there when they still make some cars there but back when it was the place don't don't even get me started on the American car industry but cursing you talk about a group that took it for granted and didn't adapt to the times and literally sat there and watched it Denise take all of their business day they watch the Camry become a Chevy used to be by AJ Chevy versus Ford right you will you remember your family you had Chevy fans pizza at market and they just sat back and let built crappy cars and blah blah blah and let that whole thing go it's ridiculous cease to worship jobs overseas things are cheaper to make in Mexico or the cheaper to make a China that exist but but as far as the cars they I mean American cars in the 70s and 80s were garbage garbage the factory could have made they could have made better cars and they just chose not to be more open to the idea of American-made businesses supporting American-made businesses after you realize how difficult it is things from China during a pandemic and how we're so reliant on China from Madison and for electronics and so many different things one would hope I think that this two ways to do it either we do that support American businesses or and this is a worldwide thing open up to the idea of globalization where thing where it's a global economy not an individual Nation economy you know that f*** out of here about people who run it now right the bankers right thing I mean they don't give a s*** I don't give a s*** about where the money comes from their run in the money worldwide that you know they're there in in contact with each other you know I mean that and I'm not even talking from a conspiracy theory thing like that's just how it works money flows throughout the world and and so if you're financing I don't know if you're financing Apple computer an Apple computer is building their computers in China if you're the bank on Wall Street you don't care you care about Apple paying their stock dividends or paying the bills unit you know what I mean so so the bankers who run the who are behind it they don't give a s*** right right right right but if you can show some if you can show way to profitably make an American you have to get people from America to really find Value in buying something that's America cuz it would cost more like how much would it cost to attend we've done this before how much would cost to make an American phone everything everything made over here is that even possible forever well can't we just as if other countries bring up their standard living to ours and their income level ours then the price of Labor becomes the same cuz that's the big variable that's a big difference you make so much value in things being American that you'll pay more for the same way you pay more for labels right like to pay more for Nike than you do for some no-name sneaker but then you have to make better product well Nikes a really good product but there's some sneakers that are not as well-known they're also really good products of their costs like half as much because he has a lot of name-brand Valley I don't know why I'm using the word Nike but you could be anything you could have a DDS there's a lot of things that people buy now pay more for because it's a brand new branding makes a difference but it's better this was a thing right when an American car automatically meant it was Nike phone Something's Got a great label what about a pride in owning something that's made in America but you also have faith in the label in other words when you buy a Nike shoe that's true you have faith that this is a good shoe it's a quality right now so if if there was a time when made-in-america meant it was better the cars are a perfect example so you automatically bought it so now you have to once again build that in and it takes a long time this is another thing about American economy versus world right American economy there based on the profits in the next quarter do you know where is like Toyota was making plans in the seventies to run the American the world car market in the 90s like they plan long-term you have to look at it like that that it's not just a matter of quarterly dividends you you have to look at what are we doing with this company I have to constantly make more money every year has to make more money than the last that's how you know it's doing well and you have stockholders that you have to you know you have to listen to them can you adapt and try to make a better product I mean you look at like Windows right like what we're on Windows whatever we're not still on Windows 100 this didn't work we got to change that oh this works better and that you keep adapting and changing the product or same thing now sometimes you know like with the Applewood iPhones sometimes lucky you just change it for the sake of changing it like there's a reason there was no iPhone 9 right there like all right we can't fool them anymore we got ahold of you can do it but you have to build a value into making it a merry and part of that is is marketing right like that the F-150 there's nothing more American than a Ford pickup truck but it's made in Mexico is it really yeah there's F-150 plants in Mexico they're not all made here in the US just like BMW SUV's are made in South Carolina part they figured out while it was cheaper to make because America buys the most SUVs so BMW said well let's just make him there then we don't have to ship them across an ocean Baris you know like it's a Ferrari so it if it has a value to it in the fact that it's Italian adds to the value of it right just falling off or whatever but it was just the fact that it's Italian so yes and we could do that but I don't know that that anybody will adding Valley like some Italian like we just like what yeah that's even though a lot of times equality was like you know falling off or whatever but it was just the fact that it's Italian so yes that we could do that but I don't know that that anybody will

place I go to which is f****** tremendous and if you need a massage you go into some nights are going on date night with my wife they f****** put your feet in the buckets they rub you down and do your shoulders your neck sometimes I don't even I don't want people rubbing my feet I got that f****** phone guys doing now patient zero WhatsApp if the rubbing your feet and it spreads all these people and they have call trace it back to you I'm the mother f***** I got a fun night so now I even got it the Groupon to get a blow-torched really as you go up in the valley and the lady comes in with blow it cold there like cryotherapy time play tried to burn the fungus off all my garbage don't work on that was on Friday doesn't work let me show you how it spread to the other one applied topically or does it have to be a pill I've done everything I've done everything but the best thing I do is I cut it and I take the grind and I grind it's like Coke powder you have to smell that powder to believe it it is so stinky but I will grind those first two toes is like a f****** thing photos of God that I got the extra Rock for I got in my wife go on Amazon and get like the f****** hard Obama Stone Autobahn ain't nobody s*** and I just f****** saint that f****** toenail down

a really disturbing thing today and I'm not even sure if it's true so we should find out right now of crazy Clickety click did the CDC stop tracking flu deaths for this year because this is what I read and might have been some wacko right-wing websites where was on so you never know but I was like this can't be true because the real concern is that the CDC tracks Blue and they find out that flu is lower or the same as covid-19 can a big deal out of covid-19 you know people ride in the streets people can't and you see everyone trying to make a power grab and use this as a way to make power or heard an opponent or whatever it is and even with the give me the website I'm saying information updated as of last week April 18th for flu deaths for like it's on the CDC weekly flu surveillance install of the flu information which is not a small number it's a lot of people but then you find out that that that's a bad year for the flu that's normal but obviously this year we've locked everybody down worldwide even and you know there's there has to be a slower spread because of this quarantining and because the social distancing so your I would imagine you're getting far lower numbers and they would have gotten if everybody had just gone out into the street why does my turf any because in that fourth novel that I'm writing right now is deep into the study of infectious diseases after work after the war the Soviet program from the end of World War II up to the collapse what happened to that information and then our programs today from the end of World War II up to data continuing I was cheated into all that at a time and so maybe a little hyper sensitive to this I've been talking to doctors people that have worked in that space doing my research but from obviously I'm not a doctor. But from what I studied the difference here is that the incubation. So for us is so in the military go overseas and I were fighting insurgents and what they look like they look like the people that are insurgents what is that car look like it's pulling up to this this checkpoint it looks like the one that didn't have a vbied in it or is that looking a little low on the suspension so they're not in uniform they're not driving a military-type vehicle so same with this it's like second Insurgent this adapted who adapted it to those other diseases and how we fought them it's adapted by thank you baby. Buy that 9 days so hopefully you get the flu if you're down you know you shouldn't go into work if you show up at work so it's like bro go home you look like you look horrible get out of here that time frame so it's like that Insurgent that hides a month-to-month deposit it's the same type of thing I gave adapted SARS was different fluids different all these other ones have been different and that's the adaptation of this one is that you go out and you infect other people without knowing it so that's the difference between it and the flu but if it's a hard thing to wrap your head around you just look at numbers but there is a difference in that flew you're sick a virus because there's a there's a video game to my wife plays she used to play doesn't play anymore now that this is going down but it was a virus video game really and you send a virus throughout the world and that the key is if you make your virus too strong to video game you play on your iPad or your phone if you make the virus too strong it kills people too quickly and it doesn't spread so the way you get a virus everywhere is you have one that sits in your system for a little bit and sits week in the beginning and slowly spreads its way across the world and that's essentially what this is in a lot of ways but this is this one so weird man I mean Newsweek actually had a store yesterday saying that they think it came from a lab so now that that theory of whether or not it came from a laboratory I think I tweeted it I think I tweeted it so you can find it on my Twitter page was reading it yesterday but okay Newsweek not really Sensational lipstick publication tell me something to this and there's a lot of speculation mean it's not so hard to imagine I mean you're talking about something that literally was a few blocks from the epicenter in Wuhan where they had that level for lab right so the deal is with the video game your wife was playing and that. You can go love that game it sounds like what you infect the world to kill the world but if that's not your girl do you want a hit with a weaponized infectious disease you going to burn out in that City so instead of going over and dropping bombs on it like it was like World War II like firebombing Dresden or whatever else for Tokyo and just destroying those cities while you know what after the war you can go in with an infectious disease in men always burned out and there's no damage the weapons lab but at least a lab and doing research in infectious diseases a couple miles from these wet markets where they're saying that this thing broke out there are cases in the former Soviet Union of them doing these this Research into infectious diseases and weaponizing it and then having it get out because of protocols weren't followed or whatever Allison kills a few people and they Oshkosh it because it's a 1960 something 19 70 something and it wouldn't be Beyond someone was doing some sort of research and doesn't have to be weaponization it can just be there just studying this infectious disease not even weaponizing it and someone contracts it somehow be in that lab and then brings it outside I mean it's really that we never really will know but they most certainly were working on viruses similar to this one right there at the end of this article says there's another one called ret G13 which is very very similar to the Stars cover to one that we're experiencing now the genetic material that 4%. But still be a formidable gap for animal passage research says Ralph Barrick virologist University North Carolina probably in bed with the Russians who collaborated with like when you found out that a Harvard guy got arrested because he was taking money from Russia or excuse me taking money from China cuz he was doing something with them I mean it's real spooky what's really spooky is the World Health Organization is essentially in bed with with China and their giving us a hundred percent clear detailed information everything is filtered down through the Chinese propaganda system no shirt very dangerous and they also at work exceedingly but it seems like they were a little more prepared for this than we were always close by doing research into infectious diseases protocols that we would hear in the United States are not always as safe as they are shocker here in the United States what we're doing the same type of research and then it gets out and then they just happen to have a lot of these kids ready to go for testing long before there is no evidence of person-to-person transmission of this disease this is days after they knew for sure it was being transmitted from person person so China has been deceptive about this from the very beginning and they think that if they were honest about it and then they they stop everybody from leaving it could have covered they could have covered this in the point where it would have been 95% less so that 95% less people would have got infection as much as you can anyway let the rest of the world now I'm looking back. Seems like but you're doing with China so much for this obviously we gave up so much information about ourselves voluntarily we would listen to 50s 60s how many days we never would have given up an hour like I'll click accept or whatever it is

when we first met I knew you were an author and I knew the Chris Pratt was involved in doing that thing with you and that you guys were working towards making it which is happening now but until now so getting ready for this actually listen to the audiobook which is really well done the guy who reads what is his name for a porter he's f****** great yeah he's also a little disturbingly does a girls voice but no getting around that like it's a little weird but you you take because he's so good at like Russian accents and then South African accents and it's a really good book man it's hard to put down it's it's really good and most of it I listen to either on workouts walking hikes with the dog or in the sauna are the people that were inspired by actual because it was John Dudley or barklow or you don't have faceplates like Black Rifle coffee more effective and efficient on the battlefields they really get to go all in and then just answered military same thing everything gear guys will be strange just to say he pulled out a rifle in the Seal team did you think you were ever going to become an author is something that you'd always had in the back of your head you would like to dabble in some day like and back to him myself early eighties it's hardly anything written about seals but what there is a lot of times from fiction so far tagonist in different stories by guys like Tom Clancy David Morrell Nelson to mail a check then I would write so I just said so you would join the military and then after you retire then Anne and how many years were you in for that's why you're in Fort Wayne IN during that time you would always mapped out you were going to be an author when you're done yep I wasn't writing I wasn't practicing but I was reading a fan I'm always a reader fiction and on to all those guys are right in the 80s in The Art of Storytelling and then I couple that with the academic study of warfare terrorism insurgencies counterinsurgency the practical application from Afghanistan from Iraq and then it all kind of came together at the right time and place else is all getting out over the last like year year-and-a-half then I started writing cuz I wasn't taking guys down range anymore my job was essentially to get out of the military and cuz it's you feel like you're the first person to do it even though people do it every day but you walk in and you get something signed to go to a meeting or out of a secret program but I know you can so in a way so you were planning all along to right and so during that time while you are being deployed and while you're you know you're being a seal in the back of your head that was always a part of the plan yet those when I'm done with this then I'll do that so I wasn't thinking about how to set it up anyone in publishing didn't do anything but I knew that one day that's what I would question that's why they had to be separate so I had to be one hundred percent all in on being a CEO cuz you have two guys under your command what you owe their families with the country the mission but when I got home from that last Iraq deployment and took a breath and looked around and saw what my family needs me I've been gone for quite some time even when you're training training you're out for three weeks are getting ready to deploy deployments it's all that time spent training up my family needed me time to get out so it's very hard decision I got into the end of my time while the tactically lead guys on the battlefield that's a true Commander or so that's where Joshua was when he did his last appointment of the troop commanders and 04 which is a major in the other services of Lieutenant Commander in the Navy and after that you're still a leader but you're leading from behind part of my life was over it was time to transition take care of the family so it's time to start writing did you take journalism classes or writing classes or nobody's all the reading all that reading I did Growing Up and my mom introduced me to a guy named Joseph Campbell back in 19 that book and I watched all those interviews and I read the book that came out all the power of myth based on those interviews and I think I applied that Paradigm that model of the hero's journey the monolith she really every every movie I watched every series I watched every book I read from then on and that really helped that I made the transition because I had this Foundation it wasn't just like I woke up one day and said you know what because I did it in my whole life and it was that foundations that was already there and while I was in the military I kept reading for fun rate read those fiction books still and I discovered Stephen Hunter and and movie play video games he was always if I wasn't out operating we weren't even together Target package was reading that most people that would eventually become a professional novelist they would have some sort of background in writing like cuz of some sort of Education some classical education English literature or something resonated with me obviously it's resonated with people from the beginning of time telling those stories around campfires usually told in a way to pass on some sort of a lesson about something to the Next Generation so they don't have to learn the same lesson blood but they're told as a story and passed down that way and I think that's why there's so many Death Wish movies movie theater and you can see somebody that goes out and gets its revenge and it makes you feel good cuz you know you can't do it in real life if you do it going to go to jail true whenever biases I had or whatever my past experience or whatever and then put it into a fictional narrative no I just took my experience and then just morphed it and put it into the narrative so it's very therapeutic so did you approach an agent first like how did you get started thank goodness I didn't know you're supposed to do that today so I can study how to do something too much everybody but you know some people can study how to do something that whole life and never actually do it he's only have certain amount of bandwidth and for me I read it so Steven pressfield he's become a great friend now who's on this show a while back you. I'm listening to him on this show before I started writing gave me the idea of writing a one-word theme down to keep me on on point so I wrote revenge for that first novel on a yellow sticky but he's talking about somebody else and so I did the same thing and I wrote it down and that really for the first book Revenge second book Redemption and then 4th Buckeye North Arthur Buckeye motor for a little bit Dark Side of man but those are the things that really kept me on track but you're on the fourth chapter and outline something like that would become a sports or politics bless you have to have the whole manuscript I'm so the first one took about just drive two years and get it as good as you can possibly get it supposed to do is go to an agent but I didn't know that thank goodness turning pro do the work read those with Stephen King's on writing David Grill successful novelist that was like okay got it and I put those within sight. Me and my computer but I didn't touch him again and I thought they were there so I would look to them for inspiration as far as Steven Hunter says your professor Steven pressfield says you're a professional it right translation and I made the decision to not once I was a seal and now I write something that really help but I didn't know because at a one of these events for to raise money for a seal Foundation that thing and is I'm writing about 4 months in and my buddy says hey parking lot at the Terranea Resort parking lot up their sons beating down in my in my Land Cruiser that everything's off though the engines office so loud and paper there I'm sweating but separate call and interview why do you want a ride and I feel the same stuff I tell you or tell everybody that I was going to do this one day and so if you write a book what I can do for your friend told me some things you didn't the SEAL Teams and as a thank you for that I'll let my publisher know it's coming I can't guarantee they'll open the package can definitely but he said how long so series characters have one book a year and so I figured the best you can possibly make it and it seemed like it probably added a little bit but it's finished he's like all right call me back again at this stage where I'm still feel I still feel like this is a startup and I can't say no to a lot of things I need to take advantage of emerging opportunities just like a wood on the battlefield looking at the enemy they're learning from us we're learning from them it's really who adapts quicker you're looking for those emerging opportunity somewhere writing and I didn't really get that at the outside so you're not just writing and sending it to New York which is what I thought up until about the time I publish the first one I thought you just went back and forth with an editor a little bit and then shut the Nextbook well really you have to do advertising branding Co branding marketing stop your budgets your social media like anything you have to do with any other business that you're starting up do you have to do as an author are there and you just want to build this readership and let people know they have this character and see where it goes so so it's been at a Sprint so point being at some point I think you get to a stage where you can say no you don't have to Sprint off and all these different directions almost at the same time and it doesn't matter if someone calls for an interview or four hours and then after that then I'll check then I'll check my emails and if something comes up yeah we can schedule it out and maybe later in the week but right now it's just like oh really thought something on bam and then all the sudden I'm not writing in the morning because that's the time was quiet in our house with three kids a dog wife feel like they can't work like that and they only work good if they get up in the morning and then right immediately there right even before breakfast that wasn't getting up and working out like that until the publication of the first book and then things got a little crazy also working on the next one dialing that in and then you're editing one while you're writing another

going back to what you said about seals writing books interesting enough in the first book there's an interrogation scene interrogation and interview meaning not seen by sitting down with NCIS Naval criminal investigation service and do some bad things like three wasn't all wonderful very lucky and that one Tipping Point because in our community of the time they've been active Valor that movie with the seals active-duty seals playing characters in Natural movie there other books out there so it was already discussion happening like are we too much in the Limelight here was supposed to be flat professionals but going back in time about their experiences and that's part of the first-person account historians we'll use later to write up to that point and I was a Tipping Point so in that book came out that's when everyone said or not in one senior-level leaders or like okay. I'll stop and they really well because of that book they went and they went in and had a connection with they pulled in and investigated as a way to put pressure on him to get what they wanted so so I was one of those God known him for since 99 or something like that so we've been dear friends since that time and so we have emails going back all these years so I got pulled into this interrogation room and they pulled out single personal emails single sentence is totally out of context to try to get me for something that would put pressure on and they did that not just with me but with almost anyone that had some sort of a connection with them they investigated please already out of the military just statements about that in the first not look so I'm sitting there and they weren't tough enough to be street cops so now they're busting people on piss test in the military and everything and so they would come out of the Saddle Rack they had all these metal over all the windows it cut off all the ladders on the ship so you'd have to use a caving ladder to hook and climb up and eat at the breach and get inside these things and get them back into the Gulf before they hit rainwater's otherwise you got to get off a crazy deal an M60 machine gun was gone missing on one of the ships that you guys were on and terrible and how would you get one off a ship if you wanted to steal or machine-gun push it how would you get it off and be creative like we're on the same team they like trying to get me to take a 1060 off a ship piece-by-piece we're only on there for like it problems you're an author and I'm trying to think it all through you had some like you're you're being creative these guys are just like that anyway so I kind of figured it out near the end of my bow wow this is not feeling quite right here after all win their jobs than get a seal even better so after said after market going today same thing and you saw these guys across the table and years later she wasn't immediately I think it was him to it they wanted to build a case against him a criminal case against him for what for not submitting his book to the Department of Defense for a few and is that so they can redact certain things we have lots of fun that's classified get the the security clearances I had no one else to admit fiction but I was so just tired of this because of my experience with the marking one book and what they tried to do I just want to make sure absolutely ridiculous because then four and five then six and they get almost to the seven-month Mark when they finally get back to me so at this point we had to push the publication date in publicly available government documents just like on Wikipedia or from somebody else that wrote a book with no publicly available government websites government documents and this is not something you had to do my president know because it's fiction fiction by president now like we talked about those laws earlier three felonies a day laws are written if you look at them pretty broadly so the government can interpret them the way they want to and I didn't always used to be the case you go back 50 years involved how long they are how tough they are to decipher even further attorneys to decipher it written in a way that they can come after anyone they want for anything which is by Design and they used it to go after Mark Owen nonfiction I have experience I'll go to him so he went to that lawyer who said now you don't need to submit this so there's lawsuits and all sorts of stuff that are associated with that but for me what they did this is years later his second book you send it to me I'm getting ready to get out of the military what the government did to you and how you reacted people probably understand that so I wrote that this interrogation room with these NCIS guys and that's one of the things that they pull out and said so why are you editing classified material that hasn't been approved but like I don't know I think he was guilty not submitted not submitting it to the department defense office of pre-publication and Security review not going through make an example of him so that anybody else getting out would know that they had to do that and I don't think it worked as a funny non-fiction that have not been through that process given all that's the only part of this is so interesting is because I've known him for so long he's always going to give it all away and he had no reason to tell me that you know whatever however long it was before like he wasn't setting this up as some criminal mastermind foundation and when the book came out and I want to go bank account after that so he still had all the money except for the lawyer fees might going forward I guess they made a movie from it all those proceeds they just wanted to crush him and make an example of him to other people would submit or make people think about nuts not even writing anything anyway how did it all end up so it's lawsuit with the attorney that gave about advice not sure exactly where that is plus taxes so the double money so so all the money goes to the government because he lost his at the idea because cuz they finally put enough pressure on with the lawyers do their thing and they figure out a settlement of some sort and that was all the money so that one of the things that used to try to get him to to do what they want it so I know I wasn't the only one there's up everybody that knew him. Got pulled into this thing and but point being is that had that not happened then that interrogation scene in my novel or James Reese sit down after what happened to his team sits down with those guys across the table cop shows where they have somebody in interrogation logic alright with that looks like or feels like no that's what it feels like to be in there having these eyes on you having them tell you that there's no cameras on when you know that there are and all that sort of thing so I got to put all that together and make the book what it is it without that happening without them trying to go after me put pressure on him and everyone associated with that first book would not be nearly as good like that combat stuff is different but the other stuff and NCIS guys in that interrogation in particular in some of the bad guys that said once again you can't kill people in real life but you know what you can't eat an infection and so it made it so much better than it would have been otherwise so now looking back and I thank him to this day for some reason and a lot of his what happened down range in those feelings and emotions but a lot of it is because of what happened with with you as I was getting buy and sell it made it so much better than it would have been otherwise so now looking back and I thank him to this day I'm like you know what that first book that resonated was having issues her for some reason and a lot of his what happened down range of those feelings and emotions but a lot of it is because of what happened with with you as I was getting out

Fielder novelist is that is not, there are seals obviously who get out and write nonfiction World War before then but I guess that makes sense call the Delta Force and I think 1986 what really goes into the Iranian hostage crisis and does what happened at Desert one in 1980 and that was very formative time for me because I knew I was going in the military and at the time Walter cronkite's on TV we're watching it during dinner you count down the days that us Personnel have been taken hostage in Iran and I'm seeing those click down everything up every single night and I'm wondering I see the picture is black and white photos of us and different state department guy in a suit in a military uniform blindfolded in black-and-white photos on the cover wondering why are the why is the United States standing by and letting this happen even though I'm 6 years old at the time why is this happening why don't we go in there and get those guys in the desert what happens if course that's that's on the mind is still Shades everything we do is a special operation Special Operations in general people what happens after the hostages were taken in November 1979 and about six months they were eventually held for 444 days but about 5-6 months into that we made an attempt to rescue them so they're being held at the embassy still in the adjacent building I think and we was the first use that most people know of what's called Delta Force counter terrorist unit that is modeled after the British SAS and British SAS has been in service for a long time so we had guys that went through their program in the sixties even and they took those lessons and created ours because late sixties and seventies or hijackings we have that Munich Olympic we have all these events was Operation Eagle Claw to rescue the hostages in Iran so anniversary of it just happened the other day I'm so April 1980 and it didn't work out so what happened was we have Marine pilots flying these sea stallion helicopters from Delta Force who are flying in on c-130s from now until the Sarah Vaughan I spent a little time on there and they are going to meet up in the desert and outside of Toronto ran a few hundred miles outside the city so they c-130s land ec130 land that have fuel helicopters Land from the aircraft carrier kilos and the plans are going back to Miss Sarah and the helicopters in to get closer to Tehran to get closer they're going to land camouflage during the day and then some guys who have been on the ground in Saran this is the best part of the story that no one really talks about we had guys on the ground and ran with an E6 air force guy that spoke Farsi we have Special Operations Legend dick Meadows was also on the sontay raid in Vietnam and we have two special forces guys out of Germany and then to CIA assets and Muhammad and they had to get vehicles out there to the high side or the Delta Force guys are and then they're going to assault they're going to go in there can you get the hostages and then helicopters going to take back off land in a soccer stadium next door and they're going to extract from their expelled from there so what happened was the planes land helicopters mechanical problems they needed 6 to do the mission they washed with eight less than 6 make it to that link up point in the deserts that describes hell no go criteria if we don't have if we have four helicopters we can't do this Mission so instead of being on the ground say okay we have for how many guys do you have can we do it with this those decisions have been made ahead of time in the planning process so they helicopters land not enough scrap the mission to abort and what would have happened if they would have gone back and it would have reconstituted after the hostages a few days later but are the helicopters and refueling collides with one of these c-130s huge explosion at US servicemen died and so they don't go to go back to the hospital again a few days later Iran move the hostages different locations all over around to make it a lot more difficult if we had gone after them again but the next day President Carter makes an announcement said we tried to get sausages didn't work out this disaster in the desert and it was a big black guy for his his presidency and for Special Operations together up until that point will now we do now we have a Special Operations Command we all train together so Pilots are trained you're doing all the stuff together so when 9/11 hit all those years later we're much more prepared because of what happened desert one so that's how we honor those guys that died that's the owner that mission if I taken those lessons and apply them go forward and that's what you to have all that information to have that legitimate background like to be writing about these things like we're talking about guys were writing about taking safeties off clocks people that really don't know what they're writing about when they do it's like me and you can be creative and pretend you're a ballerina without a ballet dance but I don't think it's going to be the same and there's the authenticity to the way you write and to the one book that I read at least Savage son where are you it is a frequency that you tap into that is a frequency of a person that has experienced this stuff in real life you're not imagining you know there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff where people write about things where they're imagining you know there's a movie called Warrior or it's an MMA movie and when they do they fought two days around like it though doesn't matter. He's a mess everything swollen like this is nonsense they don't really know about and they're writing about this world where is your writing about a world that you were so deeply embedded in for all those years that when you're writing about it it just it's really compelling it's very interesting give me some real-world stuff in there too I got a shot that I didn't take into Jaffa rack and I fictionalize it by having a memory from Fallujah inside around a little bit but the passion is there the feelings and emotions behind it are there as woven into the first story and then something so it's very therapeutic I got to take a whiteboard something out here and we talked about tactics and all the rest of it range thinks it still goes out and people can't I then the other is opposite true and you can make all the wrong decisions quote" wrong decisions and thanks and work out just fine little and put them into the story that's fine little mistake or not you're going to have a hard time dealing with them later and for whatever reason was it was luck or whatever else I sleep very well at night because of the things that that was involved in down range but I still got to tap into them and put them into the story

different shows now is that military analyst they ask me things and I answer honestly I try to do it in a thoughtful way so example being the CEO of the Roosevelt that was relieved the last couple weeks because he wrote this letter senior-level officials as he sent out weird to me from the beginning because you'll be in command of a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier by being like just some guy you know the military 25 years at this point your captain and I would be shocked if he had not exhausted every other Avenue to try to get out what he needed to have done and he's responsible for fighting that aircraft carrier is also responsible for the man under his command and he and now we have like 900 on that ship the ship was in fact that start with an aircraft carrier docked in Thailand or something like that in January or something like that before really think I control aircraft carrier but he saw what was happening and he saw starting to spread he saw it as thought it was impossible to abide by social distance distance and guidelines and once you do when you actually haven't got your Social distancing once you have it how you isolate somebody and possible to do on a ship and so he saw that and then the story is that he wrote that wrote a letter and I got picked up by the chronicle in Northern California and that it was after this I've read the letter four pages it very very well done thoughtful has two courses of action 104 at War and how he can keep fighting the ship and two if we're not at War need to take care of these guys and be ready for when War comes out so it's a very clearly delineated in these four pages very professionals on Navy letterhead and it went out to 20 people and for me I thought this is very strange that that he's being attacked like this receiver level secret communication but there's official Navy emails at Art secret as well and yeah it did bypass the chain of command I guess but that at some point I think it's his responsibility to keep that ship fighting and who knows what their personal relationship was between him and the guy above him or whatever I think there's something investigational show it and now that the secretary of the Navy from Washington DC to Guam to give a speech to on the aircraft carrier and he says that the captain is just been relieved of Duty was either stupid or incompetent if you thought that what he wrote in that email wasn't going to get out to the breast mean while you're on a part is that whole thing is videotape that whole speech is tapes and there's audio that makes it out to the media but then also that's essentially the same thing as the captain of the aircraft carrier Road two days earlier that got him fired so it's really interesting I went on some of these these shows I got this down with the only one here and we'll see what happens because the other guys were saying on the show is that milkshake imagine follow the chain of command and you should have called that chain of command how to get what we need done and it's very natural for us but when you send out people like that don't think that way it's kind of interesting but I do get asked about these things and I don't really measure it against if I can alienate people or not it's just pain would be honest and be open to be authentic and that's what people can trust about me and taken just about my writing is that when they read that they know that I just didn't get it from somebody else like it's a part of me somehow and it's very personal even though it's fiction and that's what you can trust if I've hurt Agnes's using a certain weapon or certain knife couches that I Googled Navy SEAL knife and so are someone saying that he pulled that is Navy SEAL dagger into exactly who made it a relationship just because we're in the military to fight and delete the but that's what they can trust is my honest assessment and so that's how I'm I deal with it and was going to answer honestly but it's not going to be an off-the-cuff it's not going to be that's how I deal with it and was going to answer honestly but it will be thoughtful it's not going to be like an off-the-cuff craziness that I have to go back in retractor I hope it's not going to be thoughtful because that's what I that's what I also was that thoughtful

you have this plan to turn this into some sort of a series from the time you release the very first book yeah from before that and so what's crazy is that as I'm writing this how they tell you not to think of someone playing your character is your writing but as a child of the 80s it's almost impossible not to do so as I'm writing the crazy part is like usually think of like Mark Wahlberg but I thought Chris Pratt done in there and for some reason like that for guy real and I know connection to him and know what it would have been the obvious choice back down to 20 so I start riding in December of 2014 I think her early 2015 somewhere there so how do I seal a couple Seasons Intuit everybody love Magnum in the 80s women like in the guys like them I was nothing not to like about Magnum and he also does the first essentially what you would call a murder on national television with the other person not having a fire armor weapon and it's the end of the season season 3 but the guy a guy that I'd Hermes qw in Vietnam is that morning cuz that morning when his friend whose friend gets killed there's a sunrise and the guy turns around is like yes why was the first time on television and that Primetime hour where someone had killed somebody else the hero that killed someone else he wasn't armed I forgot about that I was going to invest in this and I heard he was like pro-military and that sort of thing and that's the guy and that's all that's all he doesn't think I'll Philadelphia in the early nineties and he takes out risk and sense that he'd be able to write his own ticket on the credits of his generation and I thought who's that guy in this generation that needs to stretch a little bit that needs to do something different like that's that Chris Pratt he can do this and so I thought of even crazier before the first book came out Thunder Ranch training and stuff up there in Oregon and I get this call from the SEAL Teams and hey bro you remember me and you know you know Jared and I was out there in Utah with us and he said to Abraham best I can but he really remembered it early copies of a novel I can send one to you I love to send it and he said yes so how's everybody in 2005-2006 that's where I got to think about this a little bit because every time you left the wire anything could have been an IUD and you could have either spent that time on the way to Target coming back from Target worried about is that is that donkey on the side of that is that going to blow up and kill me or feel that hit that in front of me that piece of trash right there is that covering something else is that it is or why are there you could spend every single Mission especially want to hear from Target about that or you focus on the mission books on the job get their do the job get back and at that time I was like I think I have to resign myself to fate here in a lot of these things otherwise my mind is going to be focused not where I need to be but on is that night he's at night. All right today that's just how it was that other than trying to mitigate that that sweetheart Leann but that's not going to be the focus of my everything that I'm thinking about you can't be I need to be fixed on this Mission any books on contingencies firefighter need to figure out what assets are available to come in here for to RF or whatever else what are we have overhead how do we how do we maneuver here all those things that's what I need to worry about vehicles have more Firepower than you do and and it collapses and the story is how each one of them got to be the ones that were on that bridge at that time and date so so I guess much since then other than that experienced in in Iraq and just having 2-hour feeling like I had to resign myself to it it's a little shut up hippie Crystal up your ass to you if I had Magnificent Seven I do work with Chris on on Magnificent Seven actually did know someone who knew him but so I did have that connection through someone and someone else but I love shooter which is based on the book point of impact by Stephen Hunter with Mark Wahlberg love that movie cuz I could I love a book so much that is crazy so weird man that you had those two people in your head what makes me think I don't I don't not believe that it's possible to manifest something but I think most of people to talk about that stuff or full of s*** that's where the problem like most the people that talk about that stuff they're trying to sell you something that will you know you can make your life happen and you just need a dream board and write all those things down there's a lot of that stuff is horseshit because you got to do the work that's it but part of me thinks that if you do do the work and you do have that Focus that intensity I feel like there might be some sort of frequency that you can tap in where you make things more likely to happen or possibly you can make things happen but the thing is you know you only hear those stories from the people that are successful like how many people I got totally crazy owl that all that stuff can I come stay comes together he is such a good guy he's such a great guy is almost weird weirdly nice he's a very religious guy very pro-military very he's a really positive God very very very friendly guy he's not your typical actor with weird it's like he's not that you know guy what does coke and goes to parties and he's a different different animal exists male and female actresses that are great people they just they just really genuinely enjoy acting but for the most part the people to get are people that need a disproportionate amount of attention and for the most part the people that need a disproportionate amount of tension or disproportionately annoying streaming service sing wasn't what it is today right and it will even when we do the deal it was like movie was kind of like that that was early 20s 2018 when we did the deal and it's like well series or movie so it's both it could be both got that was early 20s 2018 when we did the deal and it's like well series or movie so it's both could be both in the contract

fortuitous is it that you're writing about infectious diseases and then this s*** goes down mean if there's ever a person who got a gift by a tragedy it's crazy because I don't know that research in the fall and into the early part of the year really know what they're doing so I done all that part of it ahead of time so what really changed for me as far as what I'm doing now and what I'm incorporating from this is what our response has been to covid-19 because it's put obviously our economy into a tailspin so what's the enemy doing the enemy is looking at that and realize visible virus has done to the United States with the Soviet Union couldn't do in 40 plus years of trying great that the future battle plans can we have a strategy even a failure but if there's a threat of a bio attack what if there is a failed bio attack somewhere it's still going to affect economy especially right now with us being so gun-shy about all these words things so what are they taking from that and where they learning to apply going forwards over my fourth novel I'm taking those lessons of what the enemy is learning from this and how they're going to how I think they're going to apply it going forward and incorporating that into a fictional narrative so always learning so it's important to learn and apply it going forward you're also you're in the middle of writing a story but you're also living a life of a person that actually has to deal with this coronavirus pandemic where the whole world is kind of shut down like as a just as a human being when you deal with this what's frustrating for you about how everything is going down no I think it's what we just talked about as far as people not taking these lessons seriously going forward and making this a stronger country. do you get knocked out when you get back ever stronger for it you've learned something about in Jiu-Jitsu can't wait to see you can't wait to slide back into their old ways yeah so are we going to be a stronger citizenry maybe it may be certain percentage I don't know but it's knowing that people expect the government to take care of them and that's the expectation not you it's not you don't have to take care of yourself or your family the government self-reliant self-sufficient and having your kids look up and see how you're handling this as they are in the kitchen talking about how much they're worried about paying that Rancher that mortgage or there in that kitchen maybe talking about it even if they are worried in a way like a how do we do this better next time I do we prepare as on the other side of this and one of the things we can do now at to get better prepared at this happens too much for now for now five years from now and the kids can see that too or they see in the kitchen talking about half we are so lucky that we prepare for prepare financially we had a little food here whatever it is and so the kids will take those those lessons on take those two heart cuz they're very impressionable right now especially a 14 12 and 9 and they're definitely processing this and they're catching things on the news and they're talking to friends on their social media or texting back and forth while that sort of thing so either make them stronger citizens going forward or nothing really changed so oh what lesson are they going to take going forward so it's a very important I'm not just how you deal with this but how you get through it now you move forward better for it but because of the lessons that we're teaching our kids we mean to or not doesn't have to be a conscious thing like they're going to take lessons and his parents are going to be more fit and make them stronger frosted and she's a she's a part of it because she knows she got this out in Colorado last year now she's feeding are how old is your daughter but I like y'all can I transfer that to my wife and my wife and daughter go do this together and I'm with them also an actor family experience and he was like yeah absolutely that's let's do it. So she was 10 standing all sticks 307 yards one shot and the guide was he said Miss before 7 and she is good and I was like a tough shot 10 year old saying that cuz I don't want to lose face in front of the guide and Mom's there and Dad's there and everybody I just went all the way through minutes. He's on his back behind got one shot in the butt play some more research on to South Africa to help out train up an anti-poaching unit cuz I had to use Glocks and use them for a little bit of experience with those Weapons Systems and I want to do some research in the Art and Science of thank you with my family blonde hair blowing in the wind it's awesome that we use every piece of it that's what's great about over there cuz they see you use much more than we use over here everything confused in Africa at that young age so yeah that is about as a very amazing thing for them I don't even have to be self-reliant everything you have to do in Africa

the same people that are injecting Lysol right now they aren't you know he might yeah well you know if you're going to form of chloroquine that was the form that was a pond cleaner and and her husband took the stuff well there's new reporting that says the husband was an engineer his friends are shocked that he would do something so stupid that he trusted his wife and he loved her 20 years I think but there's also reports does not like something I've been diving too much to too deep into but she was trying to force a guy popping up is that of chloroquine taken literally worked with worst most at the opposite of benefit down the most negative conclusion possible if he says it we're going to run the most negative interpretation it's bad it's awful so when he says something like you know where he said he said about hydroxychloroquine in getting might work it might not but I'm optimistic what are the Press run with Trump recommends untested Dangerous Drug meanwhile but but look when Andrew Cuomo came out and said workers are trialling Clark when hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin where was the negative press didn't they say that that has actually been proven to kill more people than not using it though that they think one actual treatment used by many countries and we have Michigan she's a Democrat she was given the treatment should take her life and she personally praised the present for that shoes insured and being stripped of any I've heard of that there's a reason why they were using it The Strokes it showed some promise with random people I got the idea was that the extreme immune system reaction in your lungs was killing people swelling in the fluid buildup so by suppressing immune system you would stop it from happening these symptoms go to buy then you'd like to recover you know if the media is a graph showing the amount of undercover you know what man if if the media that there's a graph showing the amount of pres Obama got versus Trump what Trump got and I think to a certain degree Trump brought some self because he chased after this press any any Bates them in because after I'm right but it's like three or four times as much news

far as what I'm going to do next you know I want to keep experiencing these things which to me are precious and rare I want to keep going on Into the Wilderness I want to keep experiencing it and I want to share with people it doesn't mean anything to me if I don't share the people anymore I have no desire to go live by myself in the woods and not talk to anybody it seems like you could have a skeleton crew of cameraman editor you and put it on like YouTube that's what I thought about you I think that's a move man because you can real money off of YouTube now I mean obviously CDs YouTube celebrities are very wealthy and they just doing things on YouTube and you could just transfer your show over to YouTube and I can guarantee people that watch I mean hundred percent definitely would need a timer to buy definitely need a cam in editor if you had an idea okay I want to try this I want to make my own bow and arrow and do a shoot Caribou with it you know and do it with traditional methods and use the tendons from animals to make the strings and all the stuff that like the Native Americans did you could do that if you could do you could do whatever you want you can do whatever you want and that's what I think would be really appealing to people because just like if you start a podcast or just like anything else with his no one telling you what to do you get to find out who the person really is I think that would will be a great way to give you all the freedom that you want where you know I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to get enough Advertiser dollars to pay for an editor and pay for cameraman and and put up there and start generating Revenue. Some guys are really good like that you know Les Stroud used to film yourself a lot I need the interaction yeah less less is I mean he's the only one that really did that without horseshit that live in the woods for 7 days and survive off of whatever scraps he could find then find some sort of a scenario that the piece together for the show you know that the reason why Bear Grylls happened the whole reason why that guy got two shows cuz they were trying to tell last to fake things and he wouldn't think anything is like I'm not going to do that way so they got the guy so he would just go along with them Bear Grylls just slapped in a hotel he pretended drink his own piss all that stuff less is out there really survive in that way when you would see he would do like a 7-day trip and maybe he would find no food and by the end of that seven days you could see how much weight you lost me you look terrible and then he would get rescued as per you know how that you would have to go to a drop-off point or pick-up point but now he's all bigfoot Les has gone gone crazy Bigfoot 100% more questions about Bigfoot questions people always ask about global warming I'm not a scientist and Bigfoot I mean I'm not a scientist but you said you did notice that the ice is thin yes I can say that is deadly warmer where I am compared to what it was 15 years ago at the winners have been warmer but how many years in a row has it been warmer oh I didn't keep the data cuz I know there a lot of sinus keeping it and those are the people I'm going to defer to on global warming and I believe warm and I believe in the consensus of scientific opinion what I've seen personally is just over all the ice is thinner on my leg and that's a sign that over the whole course of the winter have been milder Winters 15 years ago I'd get around four feet ice now the last three winners have been times when I went out there in April which is when it says thickest and there's only two and a half feet ice and I'm like wow that's crazy I never saw them in about 10 to 15 years ago set been out there three times it went to colder than 60 below zero they were all the first couple winners first history winners I don't know if that was just coincidence or what I'm not saying this is global warming I'm just telling you what I've seen and like they've been recent winners where the coldest ever got was you know once or twice 245 blow one of the first one is out there in March for like 2 weeks and everyone above 40 below I haven't seen anything like that in the last four five winners get on the show the coldest temperature we ever saw was 1 time it went down to about fifty fifty five below one day for a little while and I seen times like I said where it would literally not go before you go for two weeks in March first or second year was out there so look I mean Condado all over the world because see the Arctic oceans as less ice you can you do measure the temperature of the ocean by sending sound waves through it you can just all different methods so it doesn't really matter what one person sees in one place but there's a consensus of opinion that's what matters yeah but it is interesting you're your own anecdotal experiencing that the ice is how much thinner in the world Winters are warmer it is on we wait for instance in Fairbanks Alaska they never used to use any salt on the roads at all the reason being that it was too cold for the salt to work salt will only melt ice if it's a certain temperature gets cold in that doesn't work so I didn't even store Salt their the Department transportation didn't use it which was nice your vehicle to entrust out but now there are enough times in the winter when it's warm enough to take actually are using salt and recent years on the roads of Fairbanks and you Khaleesi X when he gets up to freezing either freezing rain events in the winter witch didn't used to happen hardly ever and now it's not that outlandish to have it you know get up to 2 freezing in the middle of of the winter Sundays Bigfoot what about Bigfoot I just can't believe people waste of time talking about stuff like that Wilderness and you actually live in Alaska which is one of the places where people supposedly spot Bigfoot end of the rotors yeah you drive until you can't go any further than you camp out in the woods for a while and see Bigfoot does Les Stroud really see Bigfoot show people how hard it is then he got hooked up with this guy and he was filmed these Bigfoot shows and the guys completely full of s*** there's like a f****** these wearing a mask and pretending to be Bigfoot in the woods filming it high-resolution it looks so fake you should see the show that it's so dumb it's so dumb and hurt your feelings like you like what you're doing this but it's real popular that's the problem if you have like a survivor you might get x amount of people to watch it if you have a Bigfoot show you might get double the number what's that tell you about our culture not good look at this this is the video footage this is he says decide this is a close-up high-resolution of Bigfoot look look at that thing how fake is that are the people that are watching this stuff actually believing it or they just find it entertaining there's people stupid it's funny, sitting on their couch sitting in front of TV thinking about when they're going to go to bed on that looks man look at this f****** stupid fake bigfoot face and they're they're sitting there going when they wish it was real the wish it was real they wish it was wanted to be real to want there to be some large primate living lights out in the forest a small number of them not that many just a small number of them to thousands of them from breeding Bigfoot out of a bear kill a mountain lion like what would stop a Bigfoot you're talkin about an 8ft tall gorilla what the hell would stop. That would be the king stop apps for finding a body will stop us from finding phones yeah it's cuz skeletons in the ancient one you know like you know when they find these mastodons and saber-toothed tigers and things that we existed here 10,000 years ago finding a body will stop us from finding phones yeah it's cuz skeletons in the ancient one you know and you know what the end of site like you know when they find these mastodons and saber-toothed tigers and things that we existed here 10,000 years ago

intertwined with this thing about the tracking but covet tracking that they can get people to agree to tracking if it's your job to do that you're going to keep going see if they really are quarantine and you know they're doing that in China yes this guy just got back from a trip in China to give a 14-day quarantine and they put a f****** camera right in front of his door that's weird you're not going anywhere for 14 days and we're watching you encourage Society to snitch on people that's weird worse if you're offering rewards as you're saying if you're saying if you lose snitches get stitches but this one step towards this tracking system that's going to be implemented that they're starting to be like oh it's okay we're going to reinforce you guys being stitches it's fine here's a little treat for you here's five hundred bucks for let me know that Karen was out not doing the proper protocol have been that many deaths were like relatively to what they thought they were going to be and so that means it's the success so that means the way it's being implemented so far as been a success like you're getting it more aggressive with it even though those numbers are way lower than we thought they were going to be keep an eye on each other. When people do stupid s*** you shouldn't have f****** parties but you also shouldn't give people rewards the snitch yeah it was a hot was a packed house party at the icing it said something like if these people ain't dead in 14 days imma go out partying in my apartment is well and not my where I personally live with the building people have been having House Parties have a chilling I care if there's a Cards Against Humanity happening a lot if it's wild and buddy from this house party. 14 days why is it so bright it looks more like a meeting. Just let out and it in it in a business maybe it is maybe this is b******* these photos so many photos are doctored like you talked about the picture from the the beach how do we even know what date that's from I'm sure a lot of these things you can sort of track but then they posted a picture about you know the state of the anti stay-home protesters it was a photo from like an election from 2011 one thing I saw

look at where they weren't 2014 look where they are now with faking the Chris Cuomo thing they've they've pretty ridiculous I think what was the biggest show the only one that seems to be a man and he doesn't crack a million in the ratings I think it's like 800 and 900 I think we might was he on when he was talking about the issues he was having he was he seemed normal right like it was here's what I would expect from someone who is as sick as he seemed to be I don't feel that good but hey I'm one of the lucky ones was quite a while ago at the end of the night I'd be like really a key cuz I was tired and I was as I was tired my immune system would be depleted and then I would feel the effects of the cold more and then you wake up in the morning feel a lot better maybe pop some ibuprofen I know you're taking Tylenol so to take ibuprofen for this for some reason he probably got sick he tested positive but I think he it seemed fairly mild in comparison to other people like Michael yo when I talk to him first of all when he was doing a video talking about recovering from it was coughing and in the video he was coughing when he's talking about on Instagram thanking everybody but he had a bad case of it we got pneumonia and it was rough and you know Michael's a healthy guy so it that was disturbing to me but they Chris Cuomo end of coronavirus didn't seem that scary the dude wasn't quarantined okay he went out to some property 30 minutes in his home cuz Emily with his family he was witnessed by somebody else to do that right I didn't want to do it you want you to look man I worked when I make sense he can't call them out cuz he wants to keep the job when I worked for you know one of these companies they told me to side with the audience we talked about it last time I was here they wanted me to create a narrative that the audience agreed with because we were there to serve them young progressives whatever they say so social justice so whatever young progressives serve them what was the narrative young progressives whatever they say so social justice so whatever young progressives say going to side with that and I told him I asked are you saying that if there is a factual news story that would be upsetting for against we won't cover it.

like the last one to come up with a good one was like Scientology right that's the last when it's stuck that was a science fiction author by the way and really really bad science fiction author really bad but it talks a lot to the power of persuasion like it's the stops is Bonkers likes some of the some of the reading Like You Lie he would write the stories he would get paid like in a like a penny a word or some s*** like that he would write like a bunch of them for like strange Times magazine stuff like way back in the day but guess what he did before he created Scientology he wrote these stories and you don't like that John Travolta movie that they made of are you an AI it's all with the eyebrows that movie into one of the most Preposterous movies of all time you turned that book he turned into a masterpiece is the is that Forest Whitaker oh my God anyway this movie is it's like Showgirls never watched show girls for fun great movie it's the first time in queue it up so you can people can watch a long they'll just see you but they could like watch Battlefield Earth on one screen view of the other if they chewed up at the same time they'll get you reacting to the movie is it so is this like it just as bad as it looks really good at your moment was like it's so bad it's just like what is what the f*** are you doing the f*** are you doing people like that and I said this about Hitler and people who are just people who have these massive capabilities of persuading a mass of people Hubbard it's like a missed opportunity to do something good will just have you ever read that book Lawrence Wright's book is clear Lawrence right is that who I think it is book on scientologists amazing I mean f****** amazing and it was an HBO series on how he created it how El Ron Hubbard created the two going clear maybe it's going clear clear the the story behind it is he was self helping himself so he was psychologically not a f***** up and he was sort self-diagnosing and self-medicating give himself therapy by taking a lot of these principles of the different self-help books and different psychology books that he had read and then he started applying that and they started putting that together with some like f****** for UFOs you have director's name in the going clear on HBO it is it's f****** amazing and one of them there's this guy who's a big-time Hollywood guy who is in Scientology I forget what is the director I would like he's a really really respected Hollywood guy right makes movies and he's deep in this thing right probably given a millions of dollars to read these handwritten notes that he's been waiting for this is the year on to the next level but he thinks it's like almost like a test Super Mario Brothers salt sense of achievement like you've achieved something different and it's like what I was saying like do you think how in marketing there's like a Tipping Point to and Things become viral and more popular do you think there's like a Tipping Point to to Scientology to the floodgates opened and then everybody was sort of following if you follow a lot of the tenets of things like Dianetics all these self-help tell if you follow the good stuff you can actually do better and you'll do better because you're also focusing on the fact that you're following this path that's going to do better so your intention your focus and you during your day is improving and doing better or whether they take some Tony Robbins stop which is very motivational mostly he seems really good for a guy that's experienced what he's experienced reference to be that doing that kind of stuff for this long awake the Beast Within unlimited power like a 1989 or something like that the other motivational dude Jamie help people want something that guides them in a positive direction if they think it's going to be Tony Robbins or if they think it's going to be Scientology they're trying to do better right so if you say will Scientology help my life but why did it help your life and help you live because you decided to focus on doing better in your life and use the tenets of Scientology which some of them are really good ankle broken half doing Mission Impossible discussion on the wall 272 he's at least 56 building all the way to the other with his f****** rope attached to him and Miss hits it and slams his ankle into the side of the building you see his foot compressed ankles Knoxville why do they allow want to watch in the in the movie contract they like yeah we're going or do you think he dresses like f****** I'm going to do it he's going to do it and you eat s*** all day because he's f****** Tom Cruise you don't think he is watch Interview with a Vampire and shut the f****** amazing Tom Cruise is in the are you for real I'm such a like it made me understand how hard that is to do and no no because I wouldn't do it that to Scientology what I said about playing pool you watch someone play pool in the movie look like dogshit he look good in color money look like the flag of sociopathy that's playing there negative who is who was wild in this mother f***** because of Scientology I think you think he gets his own Planet when he dies was out of Mormon. Some Mormon right Mormons get their own planet from Johnny marine or The Osmond Brothers From The Osmond Brothers and in the inside the album when you open it up from back in the day the album the name of the album is the name of this thing that happens when you get your own Planet when you die and is always different people they all have their own planet okay we need to know that when Title the plan okay that looks like a cult look at the pink people there's one that you open it up and then the inside of it it's got all the different time being like Tom Cruise I can't imagine like someone is dying like an impossible to imagine how you managed that is there is the entity that they're praying to God they say things like to lrh and if I can salute him in check but I think they think of Amazon like a guy who just sort of like brought them the word and then the word is the true origin story of human beings with the thetans and they were frozen they throw into the volcano and energy and then you have this thing that's inside of you that really has come from my other galaxies and it was released here and I was trapped inside your body some f****** wacky share but the writing the writing so bad you need to get high to be called me about a battlefield Erica did you sitting there on the couch criss cross applesauce and every now and then oh my God he just hold on a million times better than the book the book itself I kept telling his writing was so awful that it's confusing it's like how did he do this and he even wrote quoted as saying if you really want to make money start a religion really quoted saying that we take pictures of him with captains jack on a bunch of metals gave himself going clear like what he was he was like this guy was mentally ill who was trying to self diagnose and then self heal and then came up with this whole system of like Dianetics this whole system of Hada like manager mind and and and and again for some people it actually is effective because it gives them a structure what's the weather what is Mussolini the guy probably believed everything he said it probably out of his f****** mind if you really pay attention to El Ron Hubbard why is he seems like he's lying consulate he's probably a maniac was a result of the CIA Tom Cruise is on with Matt Lauer on The Today Show and Tom Cruise's mad at Brooke Shields on psychiatric drugs he's so intense it on something look at his face it's so intense I just think he's very adamant about this particular aspect of the Scientology belief system and one of the things they don't believe in psychiatric drugs of the people who are followers of the Scientology religion what the common denominator is amongst them that one way stood on the podium and they gave Mike the most amazing man of all time metal they gave him a metal like a gold medal it's the size of a f****** hubcap and it's hanging around his neck was Flavor Flav and he Stanford ligaments and somebody leave this it is f****** amazing so the head guy of Scientology that guy I guess if they salute each other because they're in the f****** army they hug like in a crazy like they both probably came there and then Tom Cruise goes up they give him this gigantic dinner plate of a a metal and this this is like a pump-up speech it's like a pump-up speech that was like a Scientology thing as metal he want most awesome human of all time and so he's standing there in front of this huge Globe behind them does issued image of the earth behind them huge seal Freedom medal of valor Valor Valor amazing most amazing person of all time metal and then at the end they salute to El Ron Hubbard they look they look at the picture on the go to lrh secret society it's not a secret, I am going to do a thought experiment and I'm going to study all their work and I'm going be non-critical about all this and I'm going to live my life by and imma do it for three years do people try to do that probably just like for fun on their own cuz they're so bored but it's not like what would happen if they did in life they just were hoping it would help whatever issue they had I'm sure that's happened both ways how many people looked at the success of Scientology though and going I need to do something like this but they never did probably a lot

also the impact that we're having I know this is not sustainable for people to not work and stay home for months it's not sustainable I'm well aware but it's also amazing for the Earth you look at this the pictures they've taken about the sky above la but it's right right next door and that environmental stress that constant exposure to environment environmental stress I mean that affects your mood that affects your health to all move out into the rural area and ruin that Arizona going to be the new La I mean we're all going to move there thanks and occasionally have the Jaguars you know that's one of the rare places in North America outside of Mexico that we occasionally see Jaguars trail cams and the biologist he's wildlife biologist watch it very carefully because there's never been a really strong at least there's no real history of a really strong supply of jaguars in this country is primarily a Central and South American animal as well as Mexican animals f****** Jaguar that made its way from Mexico Arizona that's wild the cartels are sneaking Coke and just f****** shooting at you you like wandering around tattooed on me so see the skin down there in the middle side where there they're looking at that's yeah they found out that this one Jaguar that they've been spotting on trail cameras have been killed in Mexico that picture Miler my office right Jamie we need it on metal beautiful please screenshot right now that's the big is there big there solo Hunter's right but when you trip balls apparently in the in the Amazon when the guys do Ayahuasca and the Amazon AC Jaguars I think the more they're experienced and who they becomes a part of the Psychedelic experience for the next person and years they see things that these people who trip before then we're terrified of like snakes I want to start and not have to explain myself I'm very interested in doing it I just had to have to carve away the time to get ready for it and also make sure I'm doing it with someone who's a reputable person it's not legal so you know you have to trust people it's mushrooms or any LSD incredibly potent thing and you don't have a chain of command you don't you have a lab this game from you don't know it like when you get into the world of psychedelic drugs it's becomes very f****** weird very very likely my friend Jackie staying has a really cool psychedelic platform it's I think it's called meat Deli and she promotes healthy ways to have a journey in her the one thing she says cuz I talked to her about it like I want to do it but I'm scared she always has Safety First like it's so important to be safe the journey and her the one thing she says cuz I talked to her about it and like I want to do it but I'm scared she always has Safety First like it's so important to be safe need a sitter in Indy environment environment needs to be right I've never done it but I would only go off of someone like that who is like you know knows the step

I think I'm this is just one of the I think of this sometime I'm not married to this but I think that you have the possibility to occasionally get these glimpses of of maybe senses that are evolving in human beings and you can call it intuition you can call it some connection you have with someone special someone you really love like your family or loved ones or someone you really care about and you think about them and then they call it's almost like man is there was some sort of a between people that just comes in and out goes in out sometimes you thinking about someone they text you the kids that just total coincidence it might be but it also might be that there's some weird hard-to-define impossible to measure connection that we all share with each other send out into the universe to just let somebody else know they're not alone and maybe they grabbed them through some way through some realm erportal and it's important to like conversation is so important because of that because it makes it reminds you of things and you draw association's I was talking about my father one day and you know John Heffron he sent me a message and I was just very upset about it in the same thing that you did I want to let you know like hearing is one of the last census to go when people are sick so just so you know that your dad can still hear you and I have been afraid to call my dad during this whole process because I didn't want to know what he had forgotten and so I John sent me that message on a Sunday and because he sent me that message it made me think about my dad and I was like you know I haven't called him in so long I'm just going to call him tonight it was like 4 in the morning East Coast time he was in his what is it like hospice with the last place that people go is it like the nursing home is usually like right before people are are passing I think it's like a nursing home but because I said something and John thought about it and sent me this DM I never met him before that DM made me want to call my dad and I and I called the Night Nurse it was like 4 in the morning and in can I go I know my dad can't hear me right now but can you just tell him that I love him and I'm thinking about him and and I care and I think her name was she said sure I can go in and I'll tell him I'll whisper into his ear and us about 4 and you know about what was that one here whatever the time differences and so I fell asleep my sister calls me about 20 minutes later my dad passed away right after the nurse went in to tell him that and I can consider that there is some sort of deep connection that we have that we can't express articulate with words even though these words that were sent to me or the thing that motivated me to talk to my dad if there's something to the effect that there maybe there's something mystical going on maybe there's something that we're not meant to explain problems clients to sort of back it up $0 put out a reward where James Randi I think it's a million dollars if you can prove any psychic ability no one's been able to Win It looking at something like an emerging characteristic of human beings like for instance like we know that we used to be single celled organism is very unlikely to Durand time we were single celled organism interpretive dance no was writing books are single-celled organism so as these single-celled organisms like things are getting more and more complex and more more skills more more senses and more and more of an ability to manipulate their environment and I think that it's only it only makes sense that there could be some non-local connection that we have to each other some way without just touching or talking or through Visual there's some sort of a connection that we have with each other that we just haven't evolved yet it's on the way it's coming it's coming and that's why we long for it that's why we're really interested in psychics we're really interested in Palm people that know the few not just because we want to know what the future has we want some sort of a feeling of of hope interconnectivity it's also that I think we know there's something to it grander Beyond just as physical existence that we have and then it brings up the whole conversation about the creation or existence and introduction of Consciousness Consciousness when does that come into the picture and what is consciousness is it just sent you into just being aware and looking out for yourself because then dear conscious conscious cuz it seems they're pretty conscious to the Beyond you know that like consciousness there in the darkness until death I mean you can't even there's no way to really besides like grass and everything to really understand the workings of the brain and its firing all this electricity is going off in these little teeny molecules are doing jobs in there immune response where they send out this molecule it's almost like a Paul Revere of molecules where it lets at all the other molecules in the body know that since it's about to go down it's like it's like a warning microscopic things that are doing these jobs what the f*** do they start their day are they working out for an hour

I think it's a good idea I was I was joking around but also being serious like what you were saying you could do for plants why not why wouldn't you do it for yourself I wouldn't you I mean everything is made up of things we can't see self love Joe Rogan and Joey Diaz or even you know somebody who goes on to become a politician or doctor whatever it is what determines them going from that direction to people who are committing crimes in and there's something on a on a microscopic level that is determining these things and self-love is is a a tool to use to sort of I think help help you put yourself in the of a positive life for people to just change gears right it's hard for people who aren't healthy to be healthy so our people don't eat well. Well it's hard for people were kind of lazy to get the s*** together and be disciplined you going to get tired you know and if you're that person that automatically seeks comfort and nothingness all the time anyway it's going to be hard for you events are very there's amazing opportunity in advance and this is a big event what do you mean events like this pandemic already we've only been on lockdown for a month or so and already we freaked out when we see people hold hands movies we see people kiss people they barely know you like that when it comes to people like I can't believe the China's military dictatorship in 2020 yeah and if you're not careful that could happen here if it exists anywhere if it can exist here and we get all complacent in this idea that that could never happen to us and we're too f****** smart do you know how many people are rethinking their thoughts on safety on security on guns on on the food chain food supply chain people rethinking just basic survival you know us being so comfortable we're due for some s*** will this is for some destruction compared to a big earthquake or a mile wide wide piece of rock from space would do if it hit us it's it's a planet in maybe the Silver Lining is that we're getting a little bit of a taste of what a real you no more devastating Global pandemic looks like that's going to be the deciding factor on our preparations for something in the future occurring they didn't know but now they do for all those other possibilities I really want to I'm a gummy bear I am now we understand that things have been is not necessarily the way things always will be is a silver the Silver Lining hopefully will be us learning how to prepare a little bit more and you know not argue and debate over these stupid things that don't f****** matter but I think the reason why we're going on because we didn't have something like that that's what Lisa see was it breed complacency is that it's a just make up a cliche see everything is breeding contempt more familiar with our complacency we need to know what's important and I think now we have a better sense of it so the real question is whether or not we can learn cuz people are good at adjustments when they have to make adjustments then when things slide back to get this sort of the thing we're talking about earlier where you don't want to look at all the possibilities as you will freak out hell yeah I've been staring staring away from Edibles I mean I have been doing the blunts but I think people will change when their livelihood in survival threatened but will they change to protect themselves or when they chained to adapt a new way of life to protect the greater good because I want to be on earth of people who are protecting human race not Bob Johnson you know what I mean it it's then we're just back at square one if you look at the history of people we're doing way better now than we were before right we'll keep doing there's obviously been some Peaks and valleys and some mistakes and we're also aware that you can kind of navigate the future intelligently and if you navigate the future intelligently you make less and less mistakes I think we just now have to reassess the nature of our momentum the nature of the society that we're creating and what we're trying to do lakes and we're also aware that you can kind of navigate the future intelligently and if you navigate to Future intelligently you make less and less mistakes I think we just now have to reassess the nature of our momentum the nature of the society that we're creating and what we're trying to do

what were the biggest problems I'm looking at is who determines what's essential and what's not essential yeah weed stores are essential so we heard it like in in Michigan for instance they were closing off certain parts of certain stores did you hear about this now so a lot of people took it because there were photos of seeds at Walmart or something where there's like a tape saying you can't you know this part of store is closed and so the story went out that you weren't allowed to buy seeds anymore the story actually was that stores over 50,000 feet had to close off non-essential area like flooring and gardening and things like that and who to determine what isn't isn't essential about any of those Services gardening readily available in your backyard now the time will even think about just general Hardware if they're going to shut that down what if you would hold breaks up in your floor you know the kid falls through or something like that fixed I was like come on liquor stores but someone said actually it is to prevent people from going into detox from having problems detoxing where they would take up a hospital bed that we need potentially need be as of the virus that makes sense I also think about the reality of you take away booze and time of a crisis people's nerves snap real quick whiskey and wine and sake minutes from house to house is like good see what they've been up to or so stressed out

take a look at the social media what's going on with you know Twitter Facebook CEO of YouTube will start their sat on on CNN basically anyone who says anything out of line with the World Health Organization is a bad spannabis against our community guidelines World Health Organization is flip flop back and forth you know like several times already from person to person and did you know the AP reported at that time chinanu and withheld the information for 6 days so the day that the World Health Organization tweeted out no evidence according to try not human human transmission we now know according to AP that kind of did know I'm purposefully withheld at what you got going on with China right now I question whether or not we're getting close to an act of war and I know that might be a little exaggerated but they've got this is the story of publishing BuzzFeed news trolls working either for China or trying to slow down the response and other regions like Spain Italy Taiwan I think I think that the Boston was specifically about Taiwan sewing disinformation to would slow their response things like that one and interview the woman ass I'm about taiwan's response and he says I think China has done a great job right and then ignores yes NBA in like dessert that cold Hard Cash they're making a bold bet you and I mean you know what trap is no so this is I was reading about this the Atlantic what about this in 2015 are we headed for war with China and felicity's trap says that whenever a Growing Power seeks to upset the dominant power it result in war and out of 12 out of 16 times of the past 500 years it has happened so people predicting a us China war for a really long time because of this historical precedent is not absolute but it looks like it like that but it looks extremely probable to me I thought people get mad at me saying that I was fear-mongering by bring this up but the US just sent two warships into the South China Sea Witch trying to consider their own territory when you look at which wine has been doing in terms of misinformation clearly lying about the numbers that you know that they're removing China from the chart saying they're not real has been misleading the rest of the world with holding information on how bad the infection is it said that strike group an aircraft carrier group South China Sea near Taiwan put in Japan on alert the US's aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt was disabled because of the coronavirus they evacuate send the Personnel the US doesn't what they call an elephant walk in Guam where they have all these bombers him out cuz apparently kind of got some kind of weapon that can just blanket Guam Air Forces we sent the kind of weapons and have it can do that it's not entirely sure I'm not getting my information from just waiting for full stories about a military you know so the US just sent two warships into the South China Sea and I think they're doing this because one of the things I read from military website was that the strike force is testing us resolve the last time that China has done this where they send a strike force around Taiwan actually tried to you know taking some compassion the US Senate super carriers in everything calmed down now are super carriers in the region where disabled by Kofa China didn't they go into a group exercise with Iran after week we killed that guy I don't know ya took group exercise with China and Iran in the sea that they did a dumb thing like some sort of show of unity right after Trump had that guy's house and it is you see what happened with us Iranian gunboats they were swarming USDA US Naval vessels and then Trump ordered them if they do it again Singham blown up during a civilian Venezuelan naval ship crashed into a german-owned private Cruise liner they were trying to my understanding of the story cuz I know a lot of people are there was a a fake cruise ship with assassins from a door or something so they ordered it to come into their their Waters cuz they weren't Venezuela Venezuela naval ship started ramming it sank itself with it you know that Russia is withholding wheat exports several European countries have closed their borders with in the Schengen area there with old there people trying to order food and we just had a full-page ad in the New York Times Sunday edition I think it's from Tyson saying the food supply chain is breaking and we're getting ready for a major shortage of food kill 2 million chickens cuz it didn't have anybody to butcher them there's a concern when you have these nation-states Shoring up their borders even Within European Union that's crazy to me when you see Germany and France and Austria closing their borders to each other then you get these warships making his movements you can people desperate for food you see Venezuela ramming into a cruise ship I say that it could be that we're hyper focused on it because we're bored we don't really pay attention to the stuff we only pay attention to celebrity gossip in politics now that we're not doing anything we're really focus on what's happening in international territory or perhaps it's that we're getting desperate and we're scared at the economy tanks moving into a place of War when you have two nuclear superpowers like China and the US like what you know what they do what you going to do what you going to one. Going to launch a missile the other guys going to launch a missile I quit willing to do so who would be more willing to wipe out a giant chunk of the population would it be China or would it be the United States I don't they give you the United States I think it'd be Jenna and I think it really depends on how strange they are for resources and whether or not they're really going to lose the difficult look in China when this broke out what it was. Videos of them barricading people in their homes welding their doors shut the doctor whistleblower Vice ran a journalist was calling out all these things disappears for a month comes back a month later I'll happy you like diamonds right we love them really yeah misinformation maybe the u.s. is trying to you know. But I think it take a look at that kind of behavior the willingness to do anything by any means necessary and at what point you get one person is in charge saying I will not be the captain of a ship that sinks you know I look too well I don't to get super political in American history but I view it as you've got a leader of a country and its people are looking at him he says this will be the year my country ceases to exist at that press the button I will not be the you know I will not be the person with it press the button I will not be the you know I will not be the person with it staying it's hard to know though because it could be a leader saying I will not be the person who destroys the world I would rather go down in history as the you know failure of my country I think you back somebody into a corner and you can fight or flight

here's here's the prediction I made you know very early on I was talking my friends actually I think I said this what they're going to do they're going to say we're only going to keep things close until April 12th and that's what Trump said first Easter we're going to come open up and I said about a week before they're going to say what we got to push it back turn off April 30th then May 15th June 1st for who outside of New York City right is not going outside and he said there's a lot of trump argument with with camping in Georgia about going too fast and stuff like that so you know if you don't open things up behind whether or not we should reopen the economy or stay lockdown it's it's it's so you know I had a friend messaging me saying we're stupid people who want haircuts are going to get us all killed in their going out protesting and the first thing I'm like you you really don't think it's because one guy was on that dumb science what everyone is thinking right now it's not the case but what's crazy is you at the UN un advisor come out and say we're looking at a hundred and thirty million people are going to starve because of the economic shutdown and that's going to be much worse essentially an actual pandemic itself facts are ignored because of the tribalism what's happening there Trump tweets it out there for it's an outright left you know conservative whatever I don't think they know exactly what to do I mean I think there's some educated decisions that are being made by medical professionals and then they have to adjust those based on new statistics to come in and I don't know if they have adjusted like the the initial idea was it there was x amount of people that were infected in California turns out there's many many many more in the most recent thought is that there run 400,000 and it has been some dispute about these studies you know whether or not these studies are accurate whether or not the two tests are accurate whether or not you could get it again whether not even matters if you've already had it and you might be able to get it again but there's no adjustments need no one's saying hey this is way less deadly than we thought it was going to be now there is this sounds like the problem of government I've never been with a small government types how much is people might want to argue with me I'll in a little bit left in a lot of issues like government programs I think are good things it just seems like whenever the government ask something it's so slow to fix it if it goes bad or when things change right to adjust if they need to shift back more money into it if it's not working properly I want to know why some people just shake this off that's to me the most for this it almost seems like you're dealing with more than one virus so you're dealing with a bunch of different versions of a virus think you are I think they said they found multiple strains like that it exchanged a little bit or something I want to assure I know they did say that about India they said that the The Strain that they have in India is apparently very different than the strain there they're experiencing in Europe yeah I think some I heard something similar but like Washington liberal really acting like since the beginning they've doubted every step of the way and I'm like you have you looked at the spike charts it if you don't hear what I say if in New York City were saying thousands more dad were they dying of if not some kind of you know infection I mean if you can call whatever you want nothing going on but we're seeing huge spikes you got to just dismiss that stuff we can't even debate or dwell on it but what's interesting to me is well it is a bunch of parts that are interesting but what's interesting to me is like who George is opened right and then parts of Montana of open-source things that are open in Texas like it's going to be interesting to see what the response is going to be whether or not they come back online quicker and their economy build up quicker or whether not to get a second Surge and gave her a shot down longer is it being that maybe should have waited longer and we had glass infection like we just saw a city of 10 million in China under lockdown again did they call the Social distancing measures and start enclosure and stuff like that and they're saying it's because someone a student I think there's things from the US came back whenever there's a new disease and everybody's got to scramble and real-time to try to figure out what the f*** to do about it and then just weirded out you know no one knows like what is normal now what is what is reality reality we live in like you see movies now when people hug or shake hands and I'm like what you doing the same where it's like it's like we're all in this together and then it shows people banging pots and pans and it's like we may not be able to hug anymore but the love is there it's like all identical but then all sudden older commercial pops up and I got was watching this the other day and it's like a guy walks up shake his voice and pat on the back and then like give his wife a kiss on the cheek and I'm like that's an old commercial that is I can tell if an old campaign nope that why people want to ignore I think a lot of trump supporters were pushing it because they're in favor of growing economy but there is like that equation of at what point is having things shut down more damaging than you know what a certain point we have to recognize no matter what we do will there's a Bloomberg the mayor but there's a Bloomberg statistic on the economy that measures the downside like when when the economy goes down how many people died because of it and if you could kind of tree it's it's very disturbing and when we're talking about deaths were talking about to something that we can immediately deal with his right in front of us is the disease is happening right now go after it stop it but the secondary reaction to that in fact because you're closing economy might wind up killing as many people as you trying to avoid being killing in the long run it warm or 235 million starving because you're closing your, he might wind up killing as many people as you trying to avoid being killing in a long while yet warm or the big store on the UN was that their advisor said 235 million starving you know in the next year or so unless things get back into gear

problem is this idea of a proved truth what YouTube calls authoritative sources so I know I'm pretty hard on YouTube but did this does involve Facebook as well that name I sent you a Facebook will delete your post without notice if you type it from Dubuque on orthodontist named who has five kids and he's in his mid-50s I did that because that in no way to scratch that person is not delete it telling me it was just erased from the site gone so it's some sort of a filter that someplace no nose how many manually did it there for a while and then somebody came in somehow so you know what happened with CNN Chris Cuomo getting the other fake that whole thing right what do you mean effective so Chris Cuomo was spotted 30 minutes from his house on a property with a new cut with a new construction being built a guy on a bike saw him Chris Cuomo they got into it I don't want this jackass on Fat Tire Bike coming up to me I should tell him what I want I got in the box is he called the cops and said he threatened me so this place will confirm the encounter Chris Cuomo then then shot a segment for CNN of him emerging from his basement like this is what I've been dreaming of finally getting out of my basement kids but he was witnessed seeing his kids somewhere else with his kids had been Smith Senior Times-Call this out Ben Smith BuzzFeed news something effective it's it's like shocking Hacienda Lighting this whole controversy there are many like it didn't happen everybody knows, faked it in quarantine and three kids so we can we can assume his wife and his kids whatever I bring that up because you got a couple other moments right you've got Brian stelter on channel the anger for the people he was saying that journalists need to do that I saw you did that you said that like finally they're admitting it I mean lucky it's no secret that I work for these companies and I've seen them slowly getting worse and worse with everything I want to see Brian scream and scream like him enraged would be adorable I don't know if you talked about this yet but if you go to Google Play and look up Larry King show from 1993 you will see there so actually I checked many of the different months what people noticed was that one episode was missing August 11th 1993 the episode where Joe Biden's accuser called in saying my daughter had a problem with prominent Senator accusers mom play and there certainly were other episodes that were probably missing typically Monday's where I was so I would assume that you know Larry can get a day off or something 11th Wednesday why was this missing why did CNN why would they scooped on their own story they had this evidence apparently this was this was news so when you look at what she has been doing admitting that they're doing rage journalism you get people like Jim Acosta but isn't that would Brian stelter isn't he just that don't opinion you know I mean and it's not that they're admitting that they doing rage journalism it's he's saying that they should do that right is not what it was how do you set it on Twitter right yeah yeah answer if you if if you have the opportunity for follow-up you do and then you at your store and you talk to him you got your stories told us the truth that's what journalist used to do now you've got this idea of channeling the rage for the people what that means is it something I've I've seen an activist circles where was explained to me that what people are looking for is someone to strike down a symbol of what they view as their enemy or the cause of their problems so the reasons why someone like Jim Acosta would do so well you'll get somebody fall constantly doing this it's not that he's asking any real questions or actually challenging the president it's that the people who don't like Trump see him as striking a symbol down as a matter if he's telling the truth or not now you get performative journalism workers, pretends to come out of his basement where you know you get people standing at the White House Correspondents conferences just arguing instead of actually asking questions and then YouTube Facebook and Twitter say this is the truth we deem it so YouTube now puts them power outlets on the front page of the website guaranteeing hundreds of millions of views meanwhile independent commentators like myself we actually get hurt in the Albert like to go to my channel they only show you Fox News if you want to watch me then you are guaranteed in the sidebar the next Realty Fox News they prop up all these channels David pakman friends since you get MSNBC Jimmy Dore Fox News I don't understand why they're going to send Jimmy's you know Lefty followers to Fox News what they're doing seemingly everything their power to make sure individuals like myself another commentators are struck down while channels like CNN Fox MSNBC are propped up even though we know they put up fake news but isn't that but because of the algorithm though and you think that algorithm is engineered inordinately we can see we can see what happened it was May of last year you can look at my analytics around the time these smear pieces came out arguing that there was a rabbit hole where if you watch one kind of contents all you get is a very very misleading way of framing what was and I'm surprised that YouTube just bend over for this you basically have YouTube's competition these media Outlets using their media wait to hurt YouTube in at sales so you just said you got it will give you front page access will guarantee you you know people watch your content but they're doing that because that contents very popular and that generates and Revenue deer crossing for example you want to know he's hugely popular at school if you have a Tucker Carlson video is going to generate millions of you absolutely so YouTube with in their best interest so I'm talking about Alisyn Camerota is anybody really Google searching you on YouTube Alisyn Camerota is opinion on this I don't think so it's very famous personalities very obviously do get you no more if you look at houses with what you do with even said to CNN they prop up authoritative sources if you search for a new story guess who you're going to get if you Google search you know Terry Joe Biden CNN. they're trying to get like I understand what they're saying in terms of so like the CEO of YouTube when she said that they're going to go with the World Health Organization I don't think it's a good idea to go to the World Health Organization cuz it seems like it's very corrupt organization but I do understand this desire to go towards respected and established medical professionals have a protocol for dealing with coronavirus we should listen to them right absolutely Lotto wacky Fox online they're trying to say that it's not a real virus and its 5G and is it like all that kind of stuff is dangerous you know what they told me don't you think absolutely absolutely but they told me that they published guidelines very early on I did a video about this January 23rd when they first started locking down I did a segment talking about what's going on and I actually don't think was a big deal this was before anybody was really covering it I mean this is beyond what's happening and YouTube fully monetized can I have a thing on YouTube called self-certification where when I put a video they asked me to do your does your view contain any of the following my videos are always clean family-friendly Time Square and I was approved video monetized a week later they implemented a new change that time anyone anything anyone talking about coronavirus was instantly demonetized deranked possibly had your videos hard to find things like that and it wasn't until about a couple weeks ago they overturned these the rankings on my channel they told me Florida Publix the guidelines you cannot say these things one of which was that it may have emerged from a bio lab now we have an April I think it was the 16th a former Clinton administration NSC staffer saying that Occam's razor suggests the most likely place that this came from was breaking out of the Sun by 11 there was a story by Bret Baier Fox News where he said morning to sources he has with overseeing the documents they believe that Anna was trying to essentially prove their there they're worth with American by research by racing to do the development and there was a breach and this resulted in the cold outbreak that's that's Fox News and CNN CNN run multiple segments sang this when I talk about it I get the right demonetize confirmed they say you can't talk about the stamps I can you can even if I use them as a source even if I say like so if I try to do is you know way thesaurus how good are they Bret Baier that's a good source I mean Brett Bears won the last True News people I don't I'm not somebody followed him too much but he's a straight news guy he put his name on this net that's a lot to me. Like the Fox News what's CNN also ran the story saying us intelligence now believed or I'm sorry they're investigating whether this claim is it has Merit we also have stores in the Washington Post that asked the same question even got a professor from Rutgers University to say it's very the story actually emerged because at South China University of South China university in Beijing released a paper saying that somebody was doing experiments on that bath with rotavirus and one of the bats spilled blood on them and peed on him and get to self quarantine for 14 days being that the Wuhan CDC I think the CDC is about you know three meters away from the from the Food Market it seems like that was a likely scenario dang it I understand what you're saying but no but I get I get knocked down for this about it I understand but I think in their defense some of this has to be that they're managing its scale every day and they have to keep this dense disinformation from spreading out of control but I get I get knocked down for this about it I understand but I think in their defense some of this has to be that they're managing its scale every day and they have to keep this dense disinformation from spreading out of control

when you have all these f****** nutjobs are saying this is 5G is uneven of viruses radiation sickness someone sent me a guy that I really like sent me this video of this doctor that seems like he's got schizophrenia or something he's talking about this is a plasma disease caused by radiation and like a f****** Christ the Imagine I've gotten so many people hitting me up 10 you got to talk about 5G bandwidth for cell phones it's going to be really fast it's going to be in your phone so the question is like okay all this stuff flying through the air is always signals to the ER what effect do they have on the human body that's a good question that's a good question but to say that that's responsible for this coronavirus thing is f****** crazy if you're saying they don't have any effect and here's why this is why you don't need to be worried about UHF for Vive whatever different waves that are flying around to the air Wi-Fi and you are worried about all that kind of s*** they did really concerned it just does have some sort of effect on human beings they think that in fact cell phone signals have an effect on bees when I was one of the primary theories about the drop and Bee populations yeah, collapsed the cell phone signals are interfering with the ability to communicate I had a meeting that he put up on his Instagram I retweeted it and they have to do something when s*** like that is so egregious is so Preposterous so the question is that where do they draw that line if it would be nice if they can watch all your videos and say oh well temples are really reasonable guy they do watching everything you do put out a lot of f****** client I do so average right now as a past few months at about 3 3 hours and 40 minutes per day it's dedicated every single video I put out on my my my my main channel is 100% of them they just recently introduced my my other two channels so I have I have a total of three channels under my name where I put out at around 10 to 12 separate videos per day for total about 3 hours and 40 minutes they what they do so if I upload a video it gets reviewed through something so I first Seltzer if I say this if someone watches it and demonetised is it contact Google for me so I actually have someone who fixes this if there's an issue and so so something and I did not like it even start my own business I'm rather successful with it and it's because of YouTube and it's because they view me as trustworthy you know I've known them for a long time they work with me it's not perfect the challenge is fundamental human rights and in the end the end the collapse of the media industry when we have news outlets that calls for I thought for two I tweeted out between of the George George Carlin quote the one that's a think about how stupid the average person is and realize half of them are stupider than that sure enough it turns out they fake the story the real story is that since the start of the pandemic people have been buying more cleaner than normal so statistically with more people having cleaner they're more likely now to and accidentally ingested and since March the calls have been going up the New York daily news one of the main purveyors of the story tacked on after Donald Trump's comments unrelated unrelated unrelated so here's the problem if the Daily News if CNN if if fought MSNBC if he's Outlets are going to do these things in a desperate bid to stay alive as bare as their methodology fails and YouTube is going to give them preferential access which is what they've done then we're in serious trouble but they don't give the Daily News preference Elon Musk has not supplied all the ventilators that he promised and then he lied and said are you aware that Twitter has a search feature and then he starts retweeting all of these different hospitals that showing the ventilators people thanking him it has a Tesla logo on it and it and end it map of the requested them they were specific parameters so you don't CNN did argue semantics the article that was written to two to prove they were right was that those aren't ventilators real ventilators are invasive ventilators that go in your body and see if he has a CPAP is a ventilator BiPAP when they're called non-invasive for non-intrusive such a f****** gross with justify what you tweeted and so journalists are supposed to help you understand Telangana not confuse it for the goal of making money that's what it is right it's about clickbait clickbait that the smartest man in the world f***** up and didn't give the ventilators CNN anybody's Network make a fake story get a million views a day later apologized retract and they keep all the money they made what they know that if they do they get paid and they let you know what the fake news is a million hits the retraction it's 30k we get paid for both an editorial review fail or editors are not reviewing these articles that are being written by journalists I think they're also making a toilet circling you know down to the drain cuz what happens is somebody so I saw a story written I think it was a hotbed for the Washington Post or something about Trump's alligator moat that's fake news that was real alligator moat right right so the story from 2017 that Trump talked about putting alligators in a moat around the southern border or something was like ridiculous a source familiar with you know Trump's thinking said that Trump had discussed an alligator moat and I might even if Trump did isn't it obvious it was a joke the story was that a source familiar with you know Trump's plinking said that Trump had discussed an alligator moat I don't like even if Trump did is an obvious it was a joke

but now we see this pop up again and I'll tell you what man the scariest thing is how do social social networks remove like we we talked about last year they remove a certain point of view is biotech company they default on what is authoritative and authoritative Falls in One Direction almost every single time Falls left right so you know I can't tell you how many times I've gone through where it's like you know that Peter Navarro story where Trump said to the journalist you're a nasty nasty reporter and everything what you don't see what the full context where the guy kept voting Trump for like 10-15 minutes and then finally come Snapchat them and they take that one sound bite and say look at Trump is being a dick it's like well yes Trump got no filter and he gets mad but they cut out the entire exchange where this dude was poking and prodding in like really just insulting the guy so this guy Peter Navarro he saying things like why are you trying to give people hope don't you think that offering up false hope is wrong and Trump's like no I don't think so do you get a guy that keeps you know building a man arguing with him and that's what is the funnest thing earlier at least these people is First United whatever Network have realized they were going to get ratings of communicating its second only to the terribleness that in those late-night new shows where they have three different people like 2/3 of the screen separated into three chunks and this person on the right is arguing with his personal left in the Monterey trying to keep everybody in order and everyone's talking over everybody and everyone's looking for a sound bite and everyone's looking to get their shots in before the buzzer cuz there's like a bell coming without the commercial runs it is the dumbest way to really explore a complicated idea right and second only to that is these f****** things were the Presidents Day at the podium and people yell things out someone called the flu Trump said who said it I don't know I heard I don't know you know I loved when one of the journalists asked about the price of oil he goes where is it at and the guy says all I don't know what I need to know where the price of oil there Porter's I don't know then why are you asking next question in front of public officials as they prepare and I know exactly at talk to these producers of talking to journalists there like ask a question anything I've been thrown in front of people I got them something I'm supposed to ask him ask him anything make something up because they want you to get that screen time so I can say there's also someone like Jim Acosta for example don't you think there's an inclination when someone gets a certain amount of attention to lean towards that attention this is your base now these are the people that are supporting you and you find it with like online commentators and where was really weird is one like a person used to be left and then you see they got them getting a little bit of love from the right and it's kind of like entering over there and their comments and they get more and more attention and then they just jump ship and the inverse people who were leaning towards more right-wing talking points got attacked for it and then immediately came out in support of certain politicians yes yes yes you see people leaning towards what gets them the most amount of love Ryan for gym like that it seems like he gets a lot of love for attacking this guy because he's talking for them for the people at home 90% of any pro Trump point-of-view really gone man I pull up I pull up right and what do I get it's it's it's all Lefty commentary if you go to a car flash politics which has I think unified to six million Subs they use left-wing activists website does new sources so it's not a place for your political discussion it's a place to get your your biases confirmed this ain't the same is true for the Donald Trump subreddit which has been basically purged you know they used to have alaga real subreddit called the Donald and didn't kill I'm not joking that's that's the story that's a little strange to you that Trump supporters would be antique optimi no sense necessary move to ban the entire subreddit seems like so it's not banned what is it was quarantined quarantine so you can no longer email you go there you're going to hear only good things about the president and while they're certainly things will dislike and any rational person would disagree with I think a healthy discourse try so you know what you want you want to see the Counterpoint you want to see the positive points you want to better understand you know is there a real reason why Donald Trump did something or is he just an idiot and if you're only getting one side of it your your your your view of the world this is just totally easy to manipulate and control at ridiculously easy that you know I remember and what year was maybe 2015 political operatives were seeking ways to prop up politicians manipulating Reddit algorithms because users have direct control of it it's ridiculously easy to do like insanely easy they've since made it more difficult but one person with a hat with it with 10 cell phones and you could own the front page of Reddit very very easily accusations of and I think it's fair to say you know in my experience I know that the Universe tends to exist the sock puppetry when someone runs multiple accounts going to be different people to create the perception of consensus account had nine different people what are a nine what one person had nine different accounts over there were using to I like this guy and you can see the way right at work doesn't don't know is you upvote and downvote something if it has more upvotes it moves up if it has more downloads it slowly disappears so if you create a bunch of different accounts using proxy servers or you know other IP manipulation you can make sure your post is always in front that was their concern that the Donald's that the Donald Reddit site was being manipulated that someone that they were basically just using it early on you you know there was so the Donald post the front page of all so if you go to read it and you want to see every subreddit that Donna was always on top active will smash the upload button make sure those post always find the top because they're very enthusiastic yeah yeah but one of the things that the Donald got in trouble for I think was they would they would do is call the sticky post so that means if you went there one post was always on top of their page so the supporters new top voted guaranteeing it would get a lot of traction but we actually saw this is the craziest thing the CEO of Reddit manipulated in the database someone's comment with a trump supporter is actually this is imagine the CEO did this went into the database the hard database for someone's comment and change what they said I apologize for it so he was like oh yeah he actually edited the words to make that person with a piece of s*** like anti-trump or something about policy and the right way to solve these problems but I go on the front open Reddit browsing through it and I see these comments from people that clearly do not understand what's going on with protest of people want the economy to reopen and I try and talk to my friends about it and it seems like they're trapped because I think you don't like you were mentioning how people drift towards what gets in the most loved but now it's not just famous people's not just people on social media to everybody who does that and they don't want that world you broken these protests that people want the economy to reopen and I try and talk to my friends about it and it seems like they're trapped because I think you know it's like you were mentioning how people drift towards what gets on the most loved but now it's not as famous people not just people on social media is everybody who does that and then I want that world you broken

cancel don't want to lose the respect their friends were also subscribing to the train ideology yeah yeah that's if you're if you're not left-wing if you don't you know just instantaneously when the when there's an issue instantaneously side with the left you get chastised then you get called a racist or you can call the Nazi if you crawled up a trump supporter yet can have a rational perspective on things you can't say something like in hindsight it was a good idea that Donald Trump closed off travel from China because it was coming from there in a lot of people are calling him racist it turned out to be a good move and then they've shut it down from a lot of different places as what you can't say that so so yeah right so at the first thing she does is the Task Force 2 Days Later the travel ban Joe Biden said the last thing we need is from Savannah phobia wealth Trump suspends travel from Europe Joe Biden says a travel ban won't stop this April 3rd Biden says actually Trump was right about that now Joe Biden's launching ads saying Trump didn't go far enough now Nancy Pelosi is saying Trump should have been Americans from coming back in the video where Nancy Pelosi was talking about telling people to go to Chinatown on Fox News now you were down there encouraging it yes and the record will show she's such an ineffective speaker it's so bizarre that she got to a position of power cuz she's she's so disingenuous and so fake and the way she communicates maybe I should be on the show maybe she's just told maybe she was better before I don't know my name what is allegations is this the creepy there's a lot of things that are changing you know right now that's going to affect whether or not Trump wins Republicans win or lose but what about a woman of color as a probably not. Biden wants to I think he said he's guaranteed to be a woman and he's looking at a woman of color I'm not entirely sure to me that's that book that's absurd I mean it's easier if you got a good candidate I think you know I don't care what they look like what their skin color is their race gender I know a lot of people on the left do that is like short-sighted because I think there's decent reasons to talk about how identity plays you know into how you view the world do you want to implement I just think it's dangerous to create to that kind of we're not talking about prom queen pick them based on what part of the world their ancestors are from or what gender they are that's ridiculous on a scale of 1 to 100 that's not near like the top 50 but I think it is fair to say that there's a real reason why that would play a role you've got a lot of people who have never experienced certain things the left and one of the problems in politics is what we see coming from the left is really based on Urban living and from conservatives more likely to be world living so when you see people on the left argue flag red stripes and things like that well yeah your urine cities where your predominately renters that's your big issue it doesn't resonate the same with people who live in Arizona primarily own their homes what were talking about the 2nd Amendment like obviously people in cities they tend to be liberal they want gun control yeah because you got it population done accidents probably aren't issue and you got cops with a minute's notice you'll never alaria the cops are 40 minutes away you need to protect yourself so this divide created a difficulty in trade policy for the entirety of the country I could point I personally would never play someone's like racial Identity or gender in the top priorities but I do think it's it is fair to point out that you know a black woman is going to understand things about life in the black community that a white man's not going to doesn't mean you give him a job because of it you can point out the perspective will be different but agree with both those things that's a good point to in terms of the overall country is so enormous and it's so different and varied like to find some common ground amongst everyone is so incredibly difficult so it's a contest of who's got the bigger bigger bucket they are electoral bucket that's a good way of putting it too but either way there so people are just going to vote left to get Trump out of office in Oak are you going to elect a guy with dementia you got to fill out this article slayalive Joe Biden by the Atlantic know I'm not getting when do they put this in a couple weeks ago maybe it's called stay alive Joe Biden all all we need is your corporeal form because we just don't like Trump well they're right about that he's a bad candidate by yeah they could have done so much better with buttigieg with Klobuchar with did they're terrified so gabbard they're terrified of Bernie Sanders and Andre and I think probably freaks him out a little bit too I was a big fan of Elsie and like that because you know Democrats all the time I'd like more tonight I'm a very few know much tea Pelosi and shift Nadler and like you have problems we have with them and I'm not a fan of their paws. And you know they'd rather do nothing but you know within that I saw Andrew Yang and his website the list of things he's gone through what he thought about was was insane I mean the dude had a policy for everything was a brilliant absolutely and he's also not a politician so his approach is going to be from a guy who you could you can argue that a similar thing there was chomping a businessman but Yang's listo is he's a comprehensive list of policy positions with it was to me I was like I like it I do salsa. That guy is a giant person a person has wasted too much money we've got people arguing for the pipes in Flint and I'm like right on let's stop building weapons and employment in trying to control these foreign countries and start working with an America and I think that the reason why a lot of moderate and conservatives like pulsing is that it's it's kind of America first right you know why we the plane so much of our resources and time and energy this foreign countries we shouldn't be doing that she's earned that perspective with two tours of Duty overseas Sushi served in the armed forces she's a been a congresswoman for 6 years she understands a lot about how this works domestic policy issues nuclear energy and then Three Mile Island when you're looking at some of these issues that they have with Fukushima in particular which is kind of an Antiquated system that they had set up that they can't really shut off which I had whole bit about how crazy that is when talking about the nuclear power that they could Implement today will be a very different system right then I'd be bad and barely clean extremely high return energy investment and zero emissions because of the past that sucks he'll be a very different system right there I'd be fairly clean extremely high return on energy investment and zero missions but there's a fear because of the past somewhere that sucks up the whole country with it

The Singularity and not you know in this it's not we didn't make the singularity if it were a reflection of it that's just when this particular zone or note or whatever you want to call it it it gets open for business so to speak if it wanted to prepare us for abandoning life as usual this be a good way to start it yeah yeah I mean that's the that is the I don't want to either yeah g5g comet impact, yeah you're like a fly by like there's a meteor that supposed to fly by in the next time we want to have by we I mean they want to have maximum survivability for the planet they're not out till like they don't want people to die they're not trying to do is not a bio-engineer thing that's designed alike call the population which is another theories but rather that they're there was a plan which is like what their plan if we do see a meteor is going to impact the planet what's our plan do we let people know that the media was going to impact well it depends like that's not connected to someone of Our Lives or whatever see that they're going to let people know and then you know so that's a whole different I think method of like reacting but what if we see a thing that they don't know about and there's some probability even a 20% chance that thing impact the Earth right or there's some Cosmic event maybe we're not even aware I'd like the sun doing some weird s*** that we don't even know happens because it's so Dee it's like deep data right so maybe it's not it watching right and so there's got to be a plan it's like well if we just tell people that the sun's going to do like a mile blip which is going to destroy all satellites and destroy all GPS and just that alone would cause runs on the bank Mass panics liking people start looting and s*** and that's not you don't want that because ideas like we want them to Hole up in their house is still the ship passes so we get maximum survivability until the whole pandemic this is a conspiracy theory not real the whole pandemic was a plan to get people to go inside store up food get them off the roads and like wait for this whatever this event is the past and as soon as the event passes you'll you'll find that it's it's all the sudden it's like what do you know the the curves are all dropping off and then we'll all be back because the thing they were worried about didn't happen also could be a test for do that try to stop you physically so dumb it's hard to believe thank you a real virus image it looks like they've been able to test for antibodies there isn't a cold virus like you think there's no virus out there do you think that like maybe like so all the scientist that is like identify covet are all part of this thing to keep us from the meteor thing and then I'm like yeah you're thank you cuz like I'll start getting freaked out from it but I'll answer your question all the scientist that is like identify covet are all part of this thing to keep us from the meteor thing and then I'm like yeah you're thank you cuz like I'll start getting freaked out from it but I'll answer your question to answer that I would say oh no it it's real I mean

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at it and it's like whatever it is they give you you you believe it and they're like list not Joey know you're like we know that you're like a wild animal and we know that like you you don't want to be dishonest to understand that but we got to figure out a way to get this kind of information out to the world because if we don't like it's going to be really bad or just going to people like you and just trying to get whatever the thing is they want you to say a little thing and idea how they want you to be in the fight they're not offering you money they're not offering you money then and they're also like saying like don't worry if you say no it's the CIA listen butterfly Joe most of what they're doing is trying to protect us try to fly Coke back from Mexico and a Jets right that's true to that happened in Mena Arkansas you know we'll all that s*** that happened when Clinton was governor Barry seals when they were running Coke back and forth and dropping off in Mena Arkansas CIA contractor there's a lot of those guys if they're honest I don't know just assume they're honest you talk to people that deal with trying to infiltrate terrorist groups and deal with tracking terrorists and deal with trying to figure out if someone's trying to make a dirty bomb trying to figure out if someone's ready to blow up a mall and they're in there they're doing this actively everyday all day that's essential essential same people okay this is a giant organization's been around for a long f****** time with your hearing about from the Jolly West and the MKUltra people are dead those are not alive today do you know why is Isis you know where's a lot today a lot of threats all around the world you know who is allowed today Kim Jong-un the leader of China all these f****** dictators that are heavily armed all over the world I am your crazy crap it will the CIA is humans are evil and sometimes you need someone is paying attention to the evil people does that mean that they're not going to stray across the lines of what is correct and good and fair and and and start spying on regular people to know it doesn't mean that it means that s*** needs to be curbed the shitz on American but if you think someone might be a terrorist should be able to find out before they blow up a fracking School totally right we don't curse at 500% so the question is how good are these people at fat walking that line turns out pretty f****** good turns out pretty f****** good there's a bunch of s*** that's happened over time but also they've got an Intel on all these different terrorists and all these different f****** terrible situation all over the world and probably saved a lot of people it's not perfect but perfect tits on a f****** thing that's perfect but whether it's the f****** post office or police officers are fire department of doctors no one's perfect rap including the CIA yes I'm sure some of them I'm sure there's someone to the federal government selling guns to a bad guy right now I'm sure people just part of life like I got you know I don't bro

if you seen this video is the fetish videos of people who like to look at videos of people getting stuck in mud you know about that fetish have you heard about that dude that get stuck in the mud do it for now it's just someone stuck in mud like it first you look at it it looks like why did that do just throw himself in that swampy mud and then he gets out of the mud or they'll start just like wiggling around in the mud and like yeah it home open are now helpless position in the bushes with gun and the girl standing there with her hood on the guy runs out of with their legs no not like they're not there like a BMW I think any you know your kind of lucky if that's your fetish there's a lot of mud out there man it's like that's a loser loser very sticky mud how much do they buried us 50 bucks how much they have to pay you how much do they pay me for my mother yet if you want to do free yeah well you doing these are great Jamie haven't seen any of these maybe it's like an ASMR thing or something just getting down. There are lots of sock this is weird weird man imagine this is your whole life and you like to go on the forums some guy who loves his f****** head still smoking reasoning is well when we were kids that was like one of the ways you could die quicksand and sometimes you would like if you're out in the woods and there was a suspicious patch you might even poke it with a stick cuz it's like f*** that's that was a whole tropin like all movies like Tarzan stuck in the quicksand Helix Water Swim right ice tips videos on it Jimmy says no to take a video and then send that video to I love mud boys at gmail.com it's my private email I will come to you trust me it seems like I think you have a service and your services you get people out of mud and you give them 1200 bucks but you got to jerk off on their face while they're trying to get out of the mud would like big mud she was like snow shoes but only for mud and he come out there that's like the foot that would be great scene is like somebody does get stuck in quicksand and then someone like they see boots and they're like like you know I don't worry I'm going to save you but just you know they made their own mud holes they dug them real deep and you sir silty very fine sort of sand if you get in there you slide right in life is quicksand did they say from quicksand and you can build the perfect sandpit amount of water to capture 200 lb man Destiny likes you want to get like a big Burly like fireman type do to jerk off on their hair that's really real EC nurre catalog they've got a mud dip thing going through that somehow healthy for you like you know what I mean like it's considered like a healthy thing you laying it up to your head it's like I'm talking about man like it's like making sure it's like a couples mud dip and like you know there's like flowers in between him and stuff and you see it in the picture and it looks some out relaxing your brain parties like how could that I can feel good like it's like just sitting in my but it looks kind of cool and you know you're there like next to each other in like dude like see if you can make a Big E this is a normal thing for a couple to do and then also you realize they don't change the mud I'm pretty sure they don't refill them breeding in the mud exactly that but like it the ones that we were in I don't know if they would he did it wrong or whatever but anytime I ask touch like close to the bottom it was burning my ass so it's like racing also I might Asbury Highway

before we need to find a cul-de-sac don't buy houses there you mean the call yes I know what do you think of ranch would do the trick to get people live on a ranch the thing is getting Upstate New York utiful have you been there personally I've been there and then unfortunately haven't been there since its completion of its completed but I've been there in the early phases and yeah that for sure is a temple like it's no joke it's not like they're just staying at the temple that's a real in the way he printed those weird faces those use them in the corners the building again I'm sorry call cosmin. You know what he called those faces you have names for the name for the faces to is that the chapel of sacred mirrors and only has four but isn't that awesome is was used to be with it called the place in New York City right he had to place them in half there in like a small New York town right yeah you look like an don't think it's really quite there yet but holyshit coming up to that like walking up their front door and oh my God what in the hell am I looking at they will come things like imagine how hard you a trip inside that place do you know I'm saying I do DMT in a shity apartment and still have some crazy mind-blowing trip but you can't tell me that coming to this place and going through this empty on Portal you have a temple I mean that the idea is I'm not I'm not just going to trip or whatever but the concept is like you know let's acknowledge the fact that maybe our ideas aren't necessarily coming from inside our brain such as a fantasy imagine that there is a Divine intelligence that as one of the many beautiful things it pushes into this particular room is Art and if we can figure out a way to purify the connection with that thing and we become receivers for that and by doing that wow that thing to begin to exist in this world and a temple was a place that allowed that connection to be refined purified intentional eyes and in that there's a solidification called inspiration or art or whatever the name is you want to give it but it's really it's like output from a place that maybe is it you know a flute a few floors up from the one we're at it's having a pretty wonderful party right now and like part of what who is like allow it to drip into this round which is potentially the denser draw more in the realm of matter it's dense you know and like ideas if you look at your ideas there are light there like they don't have my ID is like they're not like heavy their inspiration feels like barely anything in fact it's a good idea how easy it is to think something cool that maybe want to write down for a joke light white and sew in in part of what they are I think they're all about or I mean again that's me putting it on them they have a wonderful description on their website about what they're all about the dummy part of what creation is is taking those things allowing them to come through you and then allowing this round to do what it does which is to crystallized them and then surform the other people can enjoy and you know that enjoyment that's enough some lofty Ash it's just like people get a little like tiny will smell of Heaven like a better place a lighter place a place it isn't encumbered by so much b******* is this particular round back in like completely take someone out of a depression man that can completely give somebody that you know juice they need till I get back out there and like open up themselves to the world and not be shut down just one little like tiny tiny miniscule don't worry there's this isn't the only place there's simultaneously amazing things happen happening with your part of you just don't realize it yet and don't worry McKinney's that they don't worry we're coming don't worry we're coming I know this place seems f***** up it's a little tense right now we're going to lighten it up and then imagination though how much of your own imagination stimulator trips you know I mean we want to assume that we're really interacting with something right on the other side experiences that sings twist and change and Morphin TF2 never say never stay any one thing for any length of time there was becoming other things and moving in and out of things like maybe that's just what happens over there maybe this things are are constantly shifting and changing you know maybe what we're doing is we're trying to apply when we think of how we are here in this this life we're trying to apply those laws to whatever we experience when we do that but it seems so alien when you have those experiences it seems so early that you're not going to be able to bring me that back you can give someone like little glimpses on the bass is capture like oh I know what he's doing like those faces those like almost Egyptian looking goldenface yeah moving and apart from each other like you go oh yeah I seen something something sort of yeah there's a trip to mean part 2 that yeah whatever that would it be in that dimension would change it become something else and didn't instantaneously and then become something else and then and a lot of it has to do with how you're thinking which is weird it's like is the way you are thinking actually affect those things or is the way you're thinking affecting your perception of whatever this energy and how it manifests itself visually what means write write in an incel it's so we have a thought and we were thinking ourselves I just got a good idea we don't know that if we had a different way of quantifying time and space we might have just seen some ethereal Mist drift through as that produced the thing we call the thought that we thought must be us so you look at a thing in that realm and it's shifting and converting and noticed that conversion seems to be happening in relation to like how you're feeling and you know what now you're in a chicken or the egg Haitian which is like who's we know who's reflecting who here like who which advice is like real and which advise isn't in our we just kind of there I am I just seeing who I actually am but because I live in a world of individuality and I live in a world where there is a separate quality two things I see I have to see you as separate cuz if I don't I can't see you and all I can do I'm seeing myself in you which is I think what is happening in this realm anyways like am or anything you're looking at right now is some phenomena being painted instantaneously by your imagination with all that's what the imagination is doing its painting colors on to the universe of infinite phenomena that your your brain is like doing out of habit so that's that's that you know anything that anyone you're around you make an instantaneous assessment of that person are you eating though I realize like wait I got a bad Vibe by that person I bet something's off of them and then you go into your TV psychic b******* like you can tell a person's off like they're not really connecting with you or the afternoon to connect Junior like well I got a weird vibe from this yeah what he said on paper what you said on paper would be totally normal patch trip there sometimes is a certain things of violation of space there's a weirdness to the way they look at you two occasions you know I'm just saying sometimes you're not right and this is like why you need empiricism and science because sometimes you're not right like just because you think that's how it is from some Instinct inside of you that mean that's how things is your bias and and so that that's the projection that's like the roof that's the part of you that you're like you're still dealing with some drama for your a kid and you're seeing that trauma and all the things around you and so you're an argument with someone who hurt you 20 years ago when you're talking to somebody who vaguely reminds you of that person and if you're still having argument and if you're not aware that you're still having that argument then you can start saying s*** like why you always end up with the same person on a different screen and being like I keep seeing this movie you know it's like at the same movie it's like you're seeing the same thing you're projecting is just it looks like it would now it's not time it's Alex or now it's not Lisa you're looking at Samantha but you're still seeing this thing and that that's the projection so anyway that's the imagination and the question is how powerful is that projection cuz sometimes you start projecting onto someone how you think and if that person's week or insecure don't start acting the way you think they are now you've your projection is sprung to life in front of you because the person you essentially animated a person with your expectation of them and then because that person is acting the way you thought they would act cuz they don't know what the f*** they are you're making monsters with your imagination with your imagination that's what you got to take these people and put it in their head that this is what they do I put in their head

look at this like okay now we know something can happen that we never talked to happen for the whole world shuts down now we know that's it we should we should act accordingly in like how we run things now we know what that's a silver lining I mean like that's a silver line it's like when you have a thing happened that you realized like you know whatever like in your car you get lucky and you notice that the tire is like super flat and you feel you fill it up whatever you see thing and it saves you from a later f****** thing they could have been a million times worse but you know man the wake-up call to me is like it's no joke that you need to at least be on like some terms of your neighbors and it's no joke that you need to understand how to do like how to grow food out of the ground and it seemed like basic first aid and stuff like that and I always have gas in your car trees in like f****** the Vino left a credit card at the house right in like the car was kind of low on fuel cuz I didn't gas it up like I should have right and no combination of settling not being able to put gas in the car and he's too dumb mistakes it wasn't just a normal shity day where your car I got a gas now it's your cars run out of gas during a pandemic meaning you got to call somebody to come and get put gas in your car or walk somewhere to get gas at the whole different Denver for not asking someone to come and help you it's kind of like asking to me would you mind like taking a chance and I know you're wearing a mask and everything but you know what I mean so suddenly f*** ups in this kind of environment they mean a lot more than f****** in like the previous world that we are in and that's teaching me a real kind of responsibility you know like having some cash on it like stuff like that I hate using every season with turn Silver Lining right now and it's like anytime you say I saw you at the Silver Lining on the people who drown in their own f****** mucus it's not the few know it's f***** up but I guess one of the Silver Linings in it is just that the fact that it's like look man Trump just was talking about maybe we should inject ourselves with a Lysol okay Yeah Yeah Yeahs tweeted it when you look into the abyss the abyss looks into you release date of an entire planet that it might be a good idea to inject Lysol in your body's here at let's hear my computer I had to get the sound out of it nothing anyway bottom line is he's saying wacky s*** in the focuses on this lady and now she's watching him she's like I can't even f****** believe I have to handle this I don't know how you doing there you go cuz you see a thing like that and it's like okay lean into that like that's going to fly Queen into that is a thing that you can count on that's a thing saying inject Lysol that's the kind of thing where you're crazy as friend if they said that to you you wouldn't be considering like calling their of their friends their mom to be like hey Jackie's having like a hardcore manic episode he's talking about injecting Lysol I knew himself you better do something that's a f****** president and it mean what that tells me is like Parker you need gas in your car you need to make sure your phone is do stuff you know whatever you need to make sure that you are like you got to be ready because if if we like think we're going to lean into some like imaginary hammock made of like people Doterra saying that we should inject yourself with Lysol then wormate then it's our fault cuz you know it's like let's say you went and you I don't know you went into the forest and you got attacked by a tiger but right before you went in the Tiger use the force you said to somebody hate you think I should go in that fourth or Tigers down there like no and then they start shooting up with Lysol you know what I mean if you go in that Forest that's your fault you f****** listen to a dude you thought you could shoot up Lysol you know what I mean that's your fault intelligent way to get out of this f****** subject and I've already started and I've already coming up with perhaps for instance maybe you could maybe you could hit somebody with a tremendous whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light and I think you had fun some of the way and I think you said you going to test that to sounds interesting right and then I see the disinfectant with knocks it out in a minute 1 minute and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or or almost deplaning cuz you see gets in the lungs and volume down put your lungs to a carwash like what what a crazy thing to say I mean cleaning cleaning give him a cleaning you know soap to me you see that and it's like okay well I'm not quite certain that that is where I'm going to get my data stream from because that's a Lysol person and then but then we but then there must be like a thing we can do regardless of the fact that clearly you wouldn't even talk like that on a podcast imagine you have zero expertise in a certain subject to talking to someone is like some expert in this said subject and you're proposing these outlandish like you're at a Podium you don't even have a private conversation in front everybody you're someone to have an aside conversation we are proposing these ridiculous ideas you can't do that you can inject this infection he probably upset and she wants to do the best work that she can do and this is just some nonsense just to handle along the way a lot of things might be able to be done and maybe you could do a strong ultraviolet light like in the skin that is like oh my God I'm laying out possible ways that you could tear this terrible to keep going I better have more than one yeah for support like I think you said maybe I think you said maybe looking at that yeah man I mean it definitely has that sense like when you had to give her a report at school and you hadn't prepared.

that's one of them isn't that now the people who went to recently went to jail for like bribe for getting their kids in a college do you know it's kind of a virgin with your kids right you're like you're like just ate the kids aren't aren't supposed to be in college because they haven't done any work in high school and they don't know what they're doing but if you pay enough money to get him in there it's like and also aren't they doing something where they get people to go and take SATs for your kid like you figure out a way to act like it's an identity thing where you can even get someone to go in like do the test as your kid using fake ID and s*** so it so I can you send in an operative that isn't your kid to take the test so you can get know a nice cool the whole thing was so crazy did they spent so much money to get kids in school but didn't want to be good students yeah that's right buy kids way too enthusiastic Focus call her Ashley rowing out on a boat that's part of the thing I can having people take test they went and staged photos to the iCloud I forget on top of my head is it like good for your GPA it's a way to get in to get in ya alright so that and the Bry activity that and then bribed the rest of it sure you know you're you're getting a picture taken of you to try to get you into the school that your dad went through or whatever you're complicit to some degree like you have to be a little bit good luck stop go up look at that that's a grey sweater grey t-shirt grey t-shirts it's really f*****-up is like there's some kid whose parents like like you're making 20K a year who's working as f****** ass off you know I just like somehow managing do I study non-stop to try to get into a good school and doesn't get into the school cuz of that s*** that's the that's the satanic part is like they buy their way in and that's someone's place they have a limited number of places meaning like theoretically somewhat doesn't get into the school who could be the person teleportation or some s*** schools are you have your first choice second choice 1/2 Billy custard Choice yeah he's going on where's it going South Dakota Illuminati with an embarrassing and if you don't know how I talk around my friends what if that's how it is with like Illuminati to like these kids don't even know their parents were the Illuminati breaking into your vaults you know taking your f****** like goblets of blood and drinking it Parts don't drink anymore my blood you have to stop this you know what they bring their kids and the school stuff like that's not enough I want to get in the secret cult didn't talk in society photos of it so that they they have something over them that was what's one of the crazy online conspiracy theories right yeah they they make every guy suck a dick and they take Polaroids of it so they always have it the hold over you I guess his fraternity stuff but yeah is that normal any discount yeah I sidestepped a bunch of my friends dicks whose f****** cares I guess they are weaned at time now we're like like a picture of me and merges sucking all my friends dicks I think there's more than or something to take pictures preventing bombs now you like who cares of course we get pegs yeah but the guys want to go costume like they take pictures of someone doing a f****** thing that's legit f***** up so that you don't they get banished for it it's like I'm God forbid like I can't even imagine the Polaroid emerge weird s*** I've done yeah I wonder what what I think what the initiation at I get it like it is at the look let's face it you're not going to try to be a part of a little tiny group that's a part of an exclusive group right you got the exclusive group that's Gail and then he gets a little get-together all Brothers in the room and will they probably have like Secret Wars have The Sandlot is way more boring than we imagined when you don't know what a thing is always my guess is it's boring as f*** it's probably just some college bulshit or people are in a frat sit around like make dumb jokes and do stupid s*** and it's nothing fingerprint told a lot about you what if the a****** is like really know whether you like someone just by looking at their a****** Santa Rita assholes I've been assholes tell you a lot just like someone's eyebrows do you like someone's Gaelic mean eyebrows like what for one here's probably for sure we don't know that you can't tell a person's future from their a****** yet cuz no one's thought of it could be the new thing that people pick up as a business turn this pad photos of are assholes you put them together on a grid it gives us the diagram of how to build a spaceship to get out of here 8 billion pieces 8 billion assholes and you put them on a grid and you'll see the schematics the hold it will tell us exactly when the sun's going to Supernova about 50 years maybe the first thing it says I need pictures of all the assholes in the planet like if you vote you have to show photo your a****** before your folks have it on your phone that's your thing exact exact and they don't get changed by workouts or they don't like to know you something to eat to get bigger be a little bit different some people burn their prints off you can really burn your a****** into unreadable weekend cuz you burn your a******* into unreadable that's one of them

I'm not like a paranoid person but I'll tell you a joke you got me to leave my house for the first time in five weeks since I don't have you left and I'm so happy I tested the first time in five weeks that I've left the house and yeah Airsoft but no great to be here thank you my pleasure and I haven't I haven't left my house in 5 weeks I've been isolating as a responsible Citizen and excited to be here okay at this point in my life there you go right before this happened and I kind of think of myself sometimes I think okay imagine if I had been in a relationship that hadn't been going well and this happened and then you have to make the decision to isolate with somebody I'm not in that situation I'm home alone and I've been talking a lot to my friends on FaceTime and I've been socializing and I've been you know living life in this world but alone in my house I'm going through my computer's started going through old footage I found that clip from when you came up to my house back in the day and now I just saw this moment were in the clip where we started talking about my old web show and you come up to my house back in the day and it was so cool that you came up then and remember the time your website was like way advance write like it had all sorts of extra stuff on it that people weren't really doing on the web back then and you came up we start talking about the web and that was because of my webmaster Andrew Blevins shout out to Andrew Webb creating talking about what we got to do prophetic moment how can we make money off of it now we're here in this beautiful Studio really planted a seed in my head to do something like this online this yours was a big one got done at your house and seen how you had servers is not a sophisticated service provider set up at your house like you could have run like a network in 2007 the whole rack set like it was much more like a sad than anything I've ever seen before outside of a set it would light screwed into those ceiling I kind of trashed my place even figured out how to take video calls from people that was exciting then I guess you and that's that was a bad Corner my living room there to Genie delete all the wires going up to that that's going up into the ceiling. Through the ceiling into the spare room which I turned into the editing room I forget what models is Sony's Witcher so you started with a tricaster and Mister system first I had that for a year then we got this the first person to tricaster that's Victor who was working on the show until you stuck that I'm here today I still talk to Victor quite a bit to shout out today but but still kind of legit oh my God cuz Anthony cumia had a kind of a pretty high-tech set up in his basement that was another inspiration cuz he was doing that while he was doing Opie and Anthony and you know they actually is important I'm wanted him to stop doing it they decided something or another it's not he shouldn't be allowed to do an extra show karaoke with machine guns in front of green screen haha he was always really funny and just like like a comic but he never did stand up I mean I'm just making this up right now but I think sometimes people that have never done stand-up who do radio or afraid of it because and that went out and it was defining what's happened in our world you were just saying you know like what we do we don't need the advertisers anyway we do you need the Network's anymore we don't know we can cattle go straight to the advertiser that video available anywhere I think I saw it on the internet about how this internet stuff is played out since then so I remember I got a call this is one of those like you know when you think about syncback user kick yourself I was so I mean how far in the weeds the guys from Denver is San Francisco San Francisco and Barrett Lions did he do some stuff with some guys from Denver that was that was sort of around the same time they were that was Mania TV but TV was the only people that were really doing live streaming and I said hey you know like I want to build this TV studio and the studio but I wanted to I wanted to be autonomous of them as well so I got my own servers through this company bit gravity where they basically invented the technology to upload video and then serve it up so I would link that to my website on green.com completely autonomous of the other website Mania TV so made a few mistakes all the stuff to be on my website and then YouTube started now what's this will YouTube all the school they're still doing things out of an apartment in Sanford on the member one point somebody called me from YouTube said hey man we really like what you're doing be on your server right so you have those fuse not thinking okay we could have it out spread it send it out but it was it was exciting everybody thought that ya done now it's like comparing two of them because all those other video things it's like yeah you'll get some views but it's just YouTube for whatever reason captured the day I have the market could never became my space you with your phone or camera development you can upload it like real simple anybody can do it and then anybody else I can get views like that is amazing that one company has that locked up in technology and they got the fun to be able to stay right on top of it just make it the strongest platform possibly I don't know I don't even Twitter like how they do that just like one Twitter I mean there's Facebook on Instagram but if I if I go to your page and I'm reading one of your caption someone will say something in response to someone that like a f*** you dick boy or whatever and then I try to click and find out what they were talking about and someone will say something in response to someone that like a f*** you dick boy or whatever and then I try to click and find out what they were talking about and I get to the beginning of the comments and then I got to go through all the comments to try to figure this out like why can't I just click

and you start thinking about all the possibilities what could happen and then this Panda happens and then you know I still live in the same place where did the show you know I just started seeing you know I'm here in Los Angeles to I was seeing Black Hawk helicopter Apache helicopter do you know I haven't watched it let me know it's crazy Walking Dead Seasons Ross hear about it now but maybe even better is the first season of the LA version of Walking Dead what's that one called couple episodes of spectacular felt like is that what time the beginning the beginning in the beginning it felt touch-and-go when everybody was hoarding all the tooth to toilet paper and I were fighting a gun the gun lines were giant Rife gun stores were creepy maybe it's not obvious enough so toilet papers big ass so because it's big takes up a lot of shelf space who takes up a lot of space so everybody went to the grocery store at the same time and there's probably far less toilet paper at the grocery store then it would appear too because it takes an entire Royal cuz it's big so everybody want but one piece of package of toilet paper on the first day he was instantly all it's instantly an entire empty aisle which is dramatic looking and it was the first sign of shelves being cleared and it was the toilet paper was gone and everyone went on their f****** phone toilet paper and all of a sudden. Compounded it exponentially and I was going to the toilet paper they don't need to be gone for the toilet paper and we had the great toilet paper shortage of 20/20 this is the type of investigative reporting you do when you're alone for five weeks Columbo toilet paper cuz it's big dumb people think about a lot of shiting write wash your ass with a washcloth back because s*** is going down alrighty that's the last thing you need to worry about is my toilet paper you need to worry about consuming food and staying alive don't think it's ever going to get to that and those the ones that stock up on toilet paper the ones who buy like rice and beans and stuff like that those the people that are planning their legitimately planning ahead you want to stay a lot corn and rice that's what I was a subsystem enough vitamins and everything you need so you don't get enough protein that way but you get some from being overly not as available sun is bioavailable as it is in other Foods so protein you just going to eat a lot of protein vitamins and everything you need so I'm sure you don't get enough protein that way but you get some from being overly not as available bioavailable as it is in other Foods so protein you just going to eat a lot complete some forms of protein

watch the movie about the free free free climbing movie that's playing on the plane but the guy that climbed Alex Honnold besides like I said earlier we're going to make pants I want to make tents I'm going to climb that you get to meet so many people like that yeah that must be fun well it's it's very important for me as a person trying to figure people out is to be able to see this insane spectrum of exceptional people right to see some like Alex Honnold has a really fascinating guy very fast really smart is really to India and he's really mellow he's got hands like saucing ass right you realize he didn't bring his chalk with him so he found some other climbers that were on their way out there were on ropes and said hey do you think I can borrow some chalk and they gay I have an extra bag here take it so he's f****** thousand feet up just hang it on finding other people were connected to the ropes with and they give him a bag of cherries over he leaves at the top of the mountain cuz he passes that cuz he's in he's not your man don't show me on freaked out food bro. Down to that wow holy s*** dude f*** all that look I know it's together with a group of people and I'd always said I'm never going to jump out of an airplane that was always my thing parachuting because we drove out there together group of people and I realized on the drive that I was the only person that wasn't coming out the airplane OG's and for whatever reason my competitive spirit that the best of me I said there's no way I'm going to be the one that didn't jump out of the airplane on the way back so we suited up and I just in that movie Charlie's Angels okay and there's a lot of parachuting in it and the stunt coordinators from that movie were taking the cast out to jump out if they wanted to so I went and Jared Leto was there you know my friends were there and I did and I didn't regret it but I'll never do it again it was amazing it was exciting you're you're strapped onto a guy doesn't your back right doesn't your body is getting a lot further away and then you're now the weirdest part about it was 20 years ago now but or 18 or whatever that you're now you're doing this right and you kind of realized control because there's another guy over there he's kind of far away and all sudden like you lean into it and you fly up to him like Superman this far away is far away I don't know what a papist you looking at each other and it's amazing and exciting and then nothing was weird about this then you pull the Chute or the guy on your back both the shoot and now you're hanging from ropes and you would be the time where it's you can relax but to me the one time I've done it talking about parachuting like I know about it the one time I've done at 18 years ago that's the scariest moment that the only thing preventing you in your face looking at your feet now you're looking at your feet hanging below you and your feelings ropes you're holding on holding the ropes gun these ropes gift like nothing nothing but amazing experience will never do it again surprised you haven't I think you got a contact high song there's no reason for that I think you would I think you would if I lived yeah yeah I'm pretty yeah I get it I get it but I don't I don't think I need that my life now I don't that's what I always said to where you end up going out to parachuting thing with a bunch of people unless you know here in a relationship and the person when you going to be that the chickenshit you got to do what you got to do save face ya almost. One of those things that you kind of you do it and you think I'm going to be okay and then one time maybe you're not and that's all it takes one of red bands dad his friend worked with a lady was little it was really in the sky diamond she's always trying to get him to do it and then one day he showed up at work and she wasn't at her desk and so what happened last night all that f*** all that dude

we weren't on the base when we were in town it was whatever the city is invited to almost to me more exciting that when you would go to a place like that already be corrupted by McDonald's this is something I would love to land somewhere don't get me wrong I would love to land somewhere and deal only with the authentic culture but there's also something kind of weird about flying for 18 hours and landing in some country and a Big Mac and then seeing it being served up by people who live in This Strange Land different different than you you know grew up in a different environment different culture different language different alphabet here you are eating a quarter pounder in the same place like there's something about it that I like when things don't make any sense I like when things are Haywire I like when you like what in the fuc of you done there's something about that I like and I like a Burger King in the middle of tile I like it I don't want to eat there I don't want to eat there but there's a part of me that's like the ridiculous Folly of humans and their decision-making and in what we do and what we don't do I'm thrilled by It Real by ridiculous videos of dudes getting on a slip and slide trying to ride a f****** beer keg down the side of a hill what you know it's going to go wrong thrilled by that you know it isn't part of me that I'm trying to really suppress that I'm not thrilled by people dying from this virus I'm not thrilled by you if you feel ill I'm not thrilled by any of that and that's real by anybody suffering but I'm thrilled by chaos I'm thrilled by the fact that this whole system gets thrown into a f****** just a blender and spun around and no one knows what's going to get spit out and a lot of these people they're getting you getting really clearly reveal their frauds these people that are in positions of leadership are human beings that don't even live in reality I was watching Nancy Pelosi trying to dance her way out of saying then in February she was telling people to go to Chinatown hang out have a good time to worry about it like like what you are doing the same thing you're accusing the president of doing your choosing Trump of not warning people you didn't want anybody either you everyone's playing gotcha with this nobody saw what the f*** was coming like I said the World Health Organization was saying from person to person no one knew this is all this chaos of all these people getting revealed I like it above all the people that lived before us is if we have more access to information we see the flaws better we see the flaws better right before we were lied to and bullshitted now I could see it better doesn't mean those flaws are going to exist but if those people are going to have to be there going to have to be authentic they're not authentic right now like when you see someone to record will show that I was there in Chinatown to tell people to not be racist the record will show you can't do that anymore we demand you be authentic and if you made a mistake like that like in February look mad if you were hanging out with me and February we are barbecuing I'm not f****** expert okay I'm not a politician and if I said that I'd be like man was I wrong here is why I thought that is what I wouldn't say a show the reason why I said that is I want you to not be racist to Chinese people if you believe that like this is intricate plot to that Nancy Pelosi had to search stop racism against Chinese people like was it that was telling people to go out take the subway I forget who it was but there was this lady of the World Health Organization be transmitted from person to person at one point in time no one knew it's a new thing where mistakes made of course they're made recipe sifted through his hydroxychloroquine what is the new stuff that the nurse will tell us about

in instances and I can't believe I found in like cave people and certain animals they found Cancer all sorts of animals has a weird thing we can assume like what would someone is born with certain diseases right we don't we don't try to make some sort of environmental connection always to the fact that they're born with certain diseases even people that are living in Paradise with no toxins in the environment you're still the weird Randomness to giving birth to people conceiving a child and the child coming out and what everything has to be in order all the ducks have to be in a row to make those no diseases like with there's so many variables man and one of the variables is cancer and the fact that some people get it and some people don't and some people live their lives terribly they abused the f*** out of their bodies they take all kinds of drugs and nothing happened people like you this is live normal they get cancer and if you didn't pay attention to you could have died that's just how it is the world is weirdly random in that in that sense what's not fair genetics or not fair intelligence is not fair creativity is not for there's no fair no fair and if you start looking for fair fairs in your household okay there is amongst your clan there's amongst your loved ones there is not the outside the outside world is a wild competitive battleground of ideas and actions it's not fair not fair at all and how do you prevent that Randomness from scaring the s*** out of you are you have to block it out completely if it wasn't terrified because if you're paying attention was going to be terrifying if you're not blocking out completely you look at the randomness of just the fact that were in this planet with no roof or hurling through the Galaxy and there's all these asteroids out there and let you know sometimes they don't see him cuz they're coming from behind the sun they just f****** slam into us and kill everybody Unity of being dead you know if you live forever and you can breathe in space and you didn't need food and you were just floating forever and go see what the f*** is going on with you can't touch ground go through forever for billions and billions of years without ever talk to anybody but you never going to die Sumter fun that might be the worst yeah that would be way worse than dying I think that would be wishing you were dead flying forever for billions used snowboarding be at the first billion years and realize you have an infinite amount of billion years left we're still going to be alive and breathing air with no need for food no friends you know what you know now been transformed by the gods into this this symbol of psychic torture your you're the god green that Tom Green in 2021 God came back to show us all lesson he let Tom Green breathing space and fly on forever and live forever and and then you use dreamed your thoughts and go look around looks like Lake Havasu will go have a top you off you go out drinking can you see it though how closely, but then back into space again

you have a very hard look she said you look like a mean that it's because you don't want to like give people that I knew you looked your face and you had a wider head than Randy so that's around to a man's Anatomy look healthy and now you do not look healthy but you live less no right you look less listening I said what he does and I go all right unbelievable you look like a f****** tell me it tell me right now you're watching a play about the forties and then and then. Halfway through he comes in your like that's the trouble thank you body you know what I mean wasting away for myself just get bigger some wondering if we can take to keep forgot it's colder than you probably just gave it to me when you are your heart beating extra fast because you got to get your finger pricked or because you in the room with us be honest let me ask you a question man you are your heart beating extra fast because you got to get fingerprint or because you're in the room with us be honest

my favorite videos that you ever did was that is it was it be bi the did Joey Seeley's car cars for sale is it really you want it 964 I ever drove but it was yeah that's what you said that it was really interesting was that this is the kind of car you build when you you know you make cars for other people who wanted to do something for yourself you build something like that host for Porsches and they make crazy fast things you can buy I mean that you can write a check right now you can just write a check walk away come back in 2 months and have like a 15 horsepower. These guys race runways out here now that's like the thing now is run Runway racing so they go out and they go side-by-side half-mile they're doing like to 2230 and 1/2 Mile would fly through the Air Jordan Fly you would drive the number being more than normal car that doesn't fly yeah I would drive something then by the way after that they changed the they read sculpted that section of track Brianna yes they for a. Of time Shane they impose the speed limit even during races through that section to prevent that from happening again they changed I believe the rules of the racing series to unload the cars down and then I believe they re did the track there is well after that incident like that or at least to make it substantially less likely scary crazy place at every every reputation that it every bit of reputations are ended it deserves and it's but you going to doing it is like one of the more unique experience of your life and you don't have to like you know like you said you have to go for time you can just go and drive it as a fast fun road which is what I've done as Americans we should be ashamed that the Germans have the Nurburgring Amelia but it was a Hitler it was a fourth Reich superiority thing right alongside the Autobahn best race tracks best race cars best highways as part of their deal and it is how to figure out speed people run speed and they're giving it to the pilot at a speed probably was doing speedballs like f****** John Belushi I mean it was it was crazy and yeah yeah yeah submarine base leaders of floating coffin and they sent these people out with like 10 tablets of meth and nothing else and this little submarine that had a little gun in like none of them came back just can't. That I have sympathy for Nazis but messed up soldiers and death submarines maybe a little bit is that what it was that little thing oh my God yeah, it's the picture I saw had the bubble somewhere in Columbia is a dude with a thousand pounds of Coke in one of those right now that a great idea anyway knocking on the bed early do they open up the jumped on top of a goddamn submarine and made the guys open the pulse open the sub bro it is Bonkers a submarine holyshit looking this 25 footlong sub so these guys are following behind it and he jumps off we was bad motherfuker so we do you think you think this sub is capable of fulsome urging or this is the closest to sublet it gets stops and filling them up with Cocoa FL in that made any way to another country in that big ship in Philadelphia that cargo ship that was supposed on by Chase but I had 200 or 400 million dollars worth of cocaine really Paris to Dakar Rally is the car race like cars like my Safari or like built for that and it's Grace and then there's these support trucks right and they they race the trucks to since like he's like, pause and like man trucks big off road tires huge engines and the trucks are in the race and so these Coke Smugglers that the trucks the bat in the back of the truck is enough parts to like rebuild the whole car and the truck has a racing driver and a v mechanic screw and they chase the car at the car brakes right and so Smuggler's bought one of these Dakar race trucks did it up like The Livery and just like couple miles after the start just like enter the race 13000 pounds I'm sorry it's like seven and a half times that is crazy and 37 Bales million pounds worth escape the built the sub Ray Liotta and Kevin Dillon invention No Escape with her on the prison Island they get the

first of all your medical advice for me with the World Health organization's ruling on you know what to do about this pandemic YouTube is taking down things and now I don't know how specific they're going to be about this but they were saying alternative therapies like vitamin C and things along those lines which is kind of unfortunate Because unless they're not being that strict about it cuz I would say if someone saying howdy if somebody made a video someone who's a nutrition expert and they made a video how to protect your mon immune system from covid-19 or maybe just protect your immune system during the time of covid-19 science saying that it's protecting it from that how to how to boost up your immune system is very dangerous time in terms of viral infections there are strategies there's things you can do like get more sleep drink more water eat healthier keep your body healthy with nutrients and making sure you're eating clean and don't drink alcohol and don't smoke cigarettes if you just do those things like this is real with this is actually been proved so I don't know what you can get away with saying what you can't get with the same but you can't always just hope that doctors come up with a cure because yes the doctors are going to come up with a cure and yes we need them to do that but you can't always think that medicine is going to fix you and you can just keep doing what you've always been doing that got you sick in the first place because a lot of times when you get sick it has to do with how you been living not always but a lot of times like is your immune system already compromised or are you weaker you beating up your body and abusing it and then boom then catch a cold we all know that's true so advice on how to strengthen your immune system so it's important for everybody now if you want people to say don't say that this is a cure for covid-19 is going to keep you from getting covid-19 fine great but not in with the World Health Organization is recommended which changes every two weeks they f***** up I mean there's Twitter the other day it might have been Donald Trump jr. but show the World Health Organization Instagram World Health Organization a tweet from them from I guess it was what time it was last year I think it was last December maybe the beginning of this year but they were saying that the World Health Organization says and it cannot be contracted from person to person this is a tweet that they put out listen to what the World Health Organization says what they've been wrong before I want to know how much they really know about nutrition how much they really know about health and fitness like I'm looking at these people they don't like the healthiest humans in the world these people don't like the healthiest humans in the world and don't really work out

such a huge responsibility here you know that obviously but but because you have so many people watching this show OK and kind of freaked me out time green responsible you like your kid yeah you know Patrice you say that about comedians like imitated him they're my babies Patrice you say like like Dave Attell got a lot babies out there cuz a lot of people imitating David tell when you have a lot of babies babies that's very nice of you to say that's hilarious baby of you and Opie and Anthony and Howard Stern well you Howard Stern. I'm all your babies I'm all your baby that is very kind of you to say I'm sitting here on your incredible show with everybody is riveted by your show when you say something it matters which is different than when you do a show on your audio podcast now I got a few people listening but it's not like it doesn't matter right that's responsibilities out but you're when you say something here it will affect the entire Society you have people now who don't believe in the stay home order there but they should until the actual scientific experts that they should go out but here's the thing who are the experts and are they different in different states and I think that's one of the benefits of having 50 states when I'm talking about the different styles of living Arizona lets you have a gun just carried on your hip right you can't do that in San Francisco right this different styles of living let's find out what different styles are right way to reopen the world we know the world got to be reopened okay we're not going to just stay Oscar winning run out of food I have to do things so do we have to do things after the vaccinations and can our society survive that do not many people are committing suicide right now my Suicide a week now they're doing a day this is something that needs to be factored in the drop in the economy equivalent to a loss of a certain number of lives and that every time the economy drops a certain percentage equal to x amount of life we might get to a place where it's conceivable that more lives are lost because of the ensuing depression and economic shutdown then we would have been lost if we didn't open up we didn't close anything and we just let everybody get sick it's a complicated thing and this is one thing that we have to really rely on the people posed to be in power to address accurately and honestly no one knows the right way to do this there's some real good protocols and replaced for 4p keeping people healthy and protecting each other and staying away from each other as much as possible and wiping things down and using hand sanitizer and stopping the spread yes for sure but no one knows how to get this thing started again no one knows what's going to happen and in the meantime what about the other diseases that are still around but about the colds and flus and what about all that stuff that kills more people than any of these things including covid-19 projections attacks not knowing I mean you don't know if you can prevent this right you know you know you eat well you can you look after yourself you'll be less likely to have a heart attack but you don't know if you can breathe can't breathe in a heart attack thing is all dependent upon your genetics as well as some people that have a predisposition to heart attacks but I'm wrong and it's so you must I'm just kind of curious how much time do you do spend research and cuz you know you know so much information 99% of the time you Jamie Google things to correct me in Midstream Instinct sort of the the you know the truth through the b******* and then you kind of cuz cuz I mean because everything is so polarized oh I've got to choose to say this because that's what everyone saying and they're just kind of saying it cuz everyone saying it was you definitely straddle that line in a way that to me seems incredibly astute but also must be some pressure to to make sure that you're right tell me about it this is b******* Go music is my daddy is being he's being like a real elf have a hard conversation things I make mistakes too if you're doing 1500 whatever the f*** shows plus by Companions and shut I don't know JRE MMA shows another 50 those at least write a hundred Jesus number of interactions that most people have with each other are positive right otherwise the world be a war zone on hey what's up hey this thing is podcast the vast majority of the stuff you do is going to be good this going to be moments where those some guy you were taking a left turn and he talked to you and you said f*** you need to know f*** you in like how do you decide to not and I don't feel like you do have an agenda to change or change things in it and it's premeditated Direction you just you're trying to be honest yeah yeah I can tell you just want to be real I wanted I just want to be able to talk to friends about stuff that's actually happening that's it but if you have any at all cuz I want people to do better included do martial arts really think about how you're doing it and More You Realize are others like a lot of stuff I could learn here that's what I want to do I want people to find things and try to get better at them doesn't mean try to be the best does it mean to be obsessed with it there's something that you get out of trying to be better

time I do any storm sort of organized exercise I feel right what are you doing more often I need to it's a weird thing it's like, that's what I'm talking about it's like this weird sort of you know you got to do it but to make the decision like cuz I made this decision every time I go to a new hotel when I'm on the road this weekend and then workout I pack my gym clothes I put them in the thing tomorrow morning when I get up dislike go get laundry to take a s*** I do the gym I do you give yourself an out but you can't give yourself an out this thing that we all have everyone has not just me mean everybody that does anything has and it's like this voice in your head that wants you to do nothing this voice in your head and he called resistance and he talks about this resistance that is in you had in that you have to decide that you are a professional this what a professional does professional goes to work and they they they give into the Muse okay the concept of the Muse whether or not it's real with the concept of the Muse is you settle in and receive creativity almost like as a Divine gift from this magical entity The Muse know whether or not it's real is not important what's important is it is if you treat it as if it's real it does work and what works is if you dedicate your time and your focus like realistically with a professional disciplined effort creativity you show up everyday like a professional but you show up to be creative if you just do it on a bassist ideas will come to you where are these ideas coming from his his concept was to think of it as your professional and you getting these ideas from The Muse and is what you do show up and do the work you focus on it and these ideas will come to you and it's really true if you really stop and think about it if you write something whether it's the most brilliant thing I've ever written or whether you're not good at editing and it turns out to be dogshit you're still at where is that coming from man you're just sitting down in front of your laptop and these want to come meet you. I'll send you talking about a kid who's riding a bike and gets attacked by a werewolf like where the f*** is this coming from if it's not coming from them used where is it coming from know something or perform any sort of physical functions repeatable know you don't it's a non-repeatable thing treat it like it's magic I treated like you're a professional and you show up doing gauge with magic that every day at the same time you sit down funny keyboard you start working and just put in the work put in the work and force yourself to do it before sit like a muscle like the same muscle that you develop when you go running every day and then you get to the point where I like 7 Days in you start f****** feeling good run it by right force yourself to do it before sit like a muscle like the same muscle that you develop when you go running every day and then you get to the point with like 7 Days in you start f****** feeling good run it by rights you start to feel like you're good at it you start feeling like you're getting better

describe how I feel about though that's why I've been staying home and I do know for the whole world was just need we need to lock into skip this is going to be the the honey pot that gets us to enter the virtual reality this is going to be the honey pot like you want to do with viruses in this world your soul carry on Research I heard he was saying that the attempt to get us to get implanted with you no biological test our phones set up more to follow us if this was there any sort of there is an opening for people to take advantage of that open it anytime there's a moment that happens with his some scrambling and maybe they can gather up more power maybe they can gather up more surveillance tools maybe they can make it easier to do. they'd like to do that have nothing to do with the Patriot Act I think there's a lot of stuff for the Patriot I said nothing to do with terrorism and they just decided I had some stuff and it's hard to control people and as the population gets bigger and it's time I was on they they slowly give into this idea controlling people more and more so they're going to definitely use this as a way to ensure that you know they have some sort of extended-reach whether it's some sort of a reach to make sure that you're vaccinated or some sort of a reach to make sure that your your antibodies are clear some sort of a reach to make sure that you're not drinking are you cuz if you drink you get your immune system shattered if your immune system f**** up what if you get sick and you pass it on to your friends if you're drinking you're being a bad citizen like who the f*** knows what could happen once someone's tracking whether or not you're healthy what are you doing man I see only slept 7 hours last night like what's that all about time 7 hours. A lot of sleeping do you not love your neighbors do you want to get sick or is there any been any evidence that that is happening now that there is with our phone specifically to do you know the phone tracking who destroyed like are they to the concept of it is definitely available right the concept of it of contact tracking is being talked about openly and then if if a company Shores figured out I say it's like there was a place to go right this is becoming interesting so say there's a place you go Tom Green you go and they give you a vaccination what's a vaccination comes available and you know that you now don't have to worry about getting this thing so we can track all the people that have been vaccinated as long as you sign up for the app and all the people not be vaccinated you see them and see them on the app well before we stepped in this mall will see what kind of shity f****** citizen through have been vaccinated you're not allowed in the mall on a map and it will get real weird yeah it's another step a really quick step in a dragging us into the machine and to take away you know the nuances of just human life they were accustomed to and it would become more more digitized and organized and people need Freedom man and if you don't have the freedom to just be somewhere without the government knowing that they're like it if you haven't committed any crime you're not a criminal and if they can just monitor you and you've never committed any crime that has a weird place that's weird things getting weird is supposed to be supposed to be following criminals only and I know it makes it easier for you to follow criminals if you can follow everybody but you were changing what everybody is you change if you follow them all the time everywhere they go if you listen to everything that they ever say through the microphone and they're f*** changing what they are and you're making up scared and everybody knows it and no one wants to admit it you're making people scared of people do things because they don't want censorship they don't to be censored then we yell at they self-censor they don't want to be not in compliance it changes their behavior we all know that we all know that it's dangerous to creativity dangerous to authenticity is dangerous to so many things it's not it's not a good way to be as a person like looking over your shoulder people to watch you all the time 2 we're just too weird too weird to force the hold and then who's got control that the government like what some people that got elected to a position the only one to get the look in and everybody and then would have that opens up with you know everybody can look in and everybody f*** it the information act what is kind of given to the evitable tell me to watch this s*** I'm going to watch you s*** from your toaster cuz you toast yeah man it's not going to be pretty but it's almost like we're taking a step closer and closer towards the digital world with this and that's I don't I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the sense that I don't I don't I don't think that robots are out to get us I don't think that the electronic world is looking to consume us but I am concerned with some steps that we could take that make our life more digital to take away too much of what it means to be a person some what it means to be a person is like fun is this find the weirdness of the world there's fun in the danger of the world you take away all that s*** with apps but and and alerts and you know and like where I can't go down that street there's a guy down the street that was arrested at one point in time s*** to do for safety and then we become what would have become his unromantic boring bulshit digital things that are locked in the pleasure sources it pumpkin pleasure to they taking the place you know me really they could do that if they could get to a point where you wear an implant it just keeps your dopamine levels up at a very high high note you get augmented reality glasses were buddies hot and be pretty cool do you like The Matrix member when the one dude was given into matrices like luck I just want to be an important person or Duncan actor some memories writing he's

some Jabs like a lumberjack like a lumberjack you up immediately think of a giant man what kind of guy men and women want to f*** that's right it's like a Marlboro man type character the new guy is that guys who died of HIV strength has no gender what is that it's a brownie that's true I guess why they looks really like a lesbian book club why is it assuming that I don't think that women are strong is assuming it that's why whoever does the marketing they're like little over the Don Draper's that go really want forever that image that insulting f****** yeah they're teaching about life because was a guy and I was really into brawny cuz it kind of look like the brawny guy and I got it mean if you if you were a guy if you felt like the Braunig I assume most Lumberjacks are probably big strong men well y'all do the job of one man man just asking questions during the winter and Lumberjack clothes that's what a lumberjack the women that do do that job I promise they're not going to put on the paper to your right think that you feel like a lumberjack while you're wiping your countertop is the is what they're trying to contact you need to be more respectful about what the f*** it means to be a lumberjack I would think you would you would think that that would be romantic until you did that job 8 hours a day 5 days a week and you're f****** bodies broken down cuz you're carrying logs and your shoulder and s*** shopping at trees oh my God was your father Lumberjack cuz I was very cover face with little bit of coal powder and pretentious a coal miner West Virginia getting black lung you can't cuz she's not black and he was breastfeeding Deborah I think yes just as likely Lumberjack is a brutal physical it's a woman's doing it that woman's going to be jacked to give me strong as f*** what's the one that like like the one that kicked off the whole I don't know he's a while ago was like and then I was like the me-too movement times up f****** the guys look in the mirror and self and then it cuts what station will then there was like a fake debate throwing out their f****** light razors and it's only sounds like it's brilliant because it's to the women who are buying the razor's but there's a thing that women are buying rate they're not into that either do a woman is buying razors for a man is also not into the f****** Gillette at so whoever's in charge of the marketing that it's their entire like what do you think that is they're going to cash in that and they just say maybe there's an opportunity here to make some money is there a show like that that's so fake alright man show regulus hand on that girl's shoulder and she had this weird look on her face like oh my God I know that's the craziest Like a Woman by Joe Biden campaign if you were working with the one that you put her hand on your shoulder like that will you be it would be nothing right statically they insulted you why are you putting this why are you talking about this don't think it's representative of the whole company decided they were going to like yeah right onto the back of this movement a bunch of things did is movement a bunch of things did they have some kind of research where they're like yes you are statistically the letter from Nigeria to

the Warriors have you seen the most the most woke know what is this going to look like you to think it's a joke I think he would be laughing at okay and people I don't read comics for like a kid yo it's like a nerd counseling like Star Wars and all that s*** was like nerdy guys that don't get laid stuff at one point and then it became kind of cool to be a nerd and they became a hot property and soon and got cleaned by like the Cthulhu Portland thing that's what it what comes of it this on ironically ironically they swap the gender colors whose jurisdiction is is but people are mad at that's the people they're trying to Pander to her like I don't dress like this you better not it's ridiculous if you dress like that even people that don't want to make fun of you will start making fun of you looks like you better than you're doing yourself well how you know that's the woman well I'm assuming cuz he's blue woman is the woman in the window he is a goggles over his eyes cuz he's exposed to his grandfather's internet gas and my father's experimental not making it up she just has a magical backpack oh my God a pocket Dimension with seemingly Infinite Space which you could pull out useful or random objects okay so she claimed to get her power from God but not the god you're thinking of Jesus Christ I can't do this to look at the drawing you can't be a superhero you too much it's like you know how dorit like how Wendy from Wendy's got real big when they showed her again this is like what happened to Dora the Explorer she she got a whole turn it up that's what this is f*** you to the people that are into that s*** but you can only do in a good economy like now people got to love your s*** you don't get to just roll them right good pornos that's what this is f*** you to the people that are into that s*** which you can only do in a good economy like now people that love your s*** you don't get to just roll them know it's going to be hard to sell things

no one's going to pass the purity test no one there just looking for something and I think that again it goes back to the thing like that's not nice like you've all your your constant now is not the time to be nice now is the time for rage Brian stelter that's that guy he wrote something about about angry journalism that this journal editorial is antennas Direct like push your idea I mean this is what we will go to the news really want is someone is going to tell us exactly what happened without any political been to it that's really what it was like that but not near to now where it's become like a caddy gossip mixed with news and now it's f*** online that's why they took targeting the emotions of women that that specifically designed this is with the same thing we're talking about with the Elan Mustang like how could you say that he didn't do that when he can he can show you all these tweets like how can you how can you accuse someone that's out together dude I mean that we are we in the news he just got on the bad side of it's an institution and all these institutions if you talk about they hate you like they have it in for you the bunch of people that made a meme out of it and we're passing it around him calling us for ever get the expression that he used but I read a real really wish I could remember because I looked at someone's tweet about it or Instagram about it and they were saying finally you know you're admitting what what you really do finally you're admitting that you're your rage journalistic instincts are shy you like we need somewhere that's going to give us the information just clear 100% dedicated to factual information without any political band at all there's no one's living there will be like it's not possible so it might as well be successful because there's going to be people who should be able to report on maybe dumb s*** that Trump tweets and also report at I'll report on the really important things that happened that are good for this should just stop reporting on Trump's tweets just try it just f****** try it for a minute all the time it's very Savvy dude you always very Savvy in a lot of ways that it's like the the fake not sophisticated language that he uses it's almost like he uses that the kind of throw you off the trail with crazy hair he's got his own crazy here it's almost like in some ways it throws you out or no no thing that I subscribe to where I don't get it some political bias one way or the other just clearly Mark the stuff is editorial or like you know this is not news just Market is that I'm have news and then out the news you save one for the part that goes just do their job you don't have to do The Daily Show not cuz it was bad or whole bunch of people that became news for them right and so then all like all the other ones Daily Show but more news than comedy so true telling them what's going on in their hilarious hilarious but I like him but I'm just going to have some guy that shows not let me hear all these all these shows that are like the emit it's always someone not from here that's interesting a John Oliver same thing I don't have that kind of feeling of like f****** we call it like a I don't have that kind of feeling of like I wake up I always have a level that waiting for you right

lifeguard and he f****** staredown the local gang leader cornpop is that what the story is and then they are fighting me to pay became friends and he was like I'm sorry I called you Esther Williams with razor wielding gangster name are we allowed to play this is his news out of work at the audio to what it says are you had to wear a bathing cap up on the boardwalk the guy named Bill Wright Mouse the only white guy and he did all the pools he was the mechanic and I said what am I going to do we should come down here in the basement where mechanics where where all the pool filter is and you walk to the car and say you make he said know if you don't don't come back and he was right so I walked out with the chain and I woke up to my car and that's that most days used to measure the straight razors bang them on the curb getting rusty put them in a rain barrel getting rusty and I looked at them but I was smart then I said first of all I said I shouldn't have called you I apologize for that we're almost done that was one of the things I was going to say when I pause it like no one's paying attention them all those kids have talked and they all went to a happy place they're all just talk and guys running for president and they're behind him and he's onstage diem Delaware kids on stage behind him not paying attention when he gets his long-winded story about razor blades and chains and basically they apologized to each other and then it's a crazy but that he's a presumptive it's crazy to run him it's actually f****** crazy it's weird man it's weird you know it was interesting some it was interesting talking to Owen Smith yesterday one of the best guys I know and he said I like the Biden makes me feel like makes you feel like things to be normal again like I think he's saying of the people that go like y'all will go for biting and that's not a small amount of people yeah there's like so Obama rub Bellefonte example of Team loyalty to talk about these crazy long-winded speeches and thinks it don't make another one I learned about it watching what I think Jimmy do I mean they weren't onboard Bernie Like Bernie saying hey go along with fighting people that follow Bernie cuz what they thought his policies would be not necessarily like a cult of personality so they don't give a s*** Bernie says about 4 but they're like they were voting for way more Lefty s*** and not the normal feeling they hate those can't stand like a Owen Smith Democrat right above all else the Republican side have their thing we're Trump's is trash Heatran said when he came in right and they had to keep their like his b**** now until they had that fight there's no one killed Bernie was never going to do that with the democratics likability and electability like that's really what it's all about when people lie simple clear message that was Owens take those how he felt him personally if they could make that into a slogan I just want to feel normal that would be like a Maga for them but he's got to come up with that what do you got to look back in time and you look at history at all the mistakes that were made throughout history you know that that's what you're reading about when you're reading about loss Wars and invasions that went terrible hearing about trials and errors and mistakes let me see people's f****** principles how cuz I mean what's the special at Vidant the thing of all the people that were crowing about believe her and all that s*** right. I like what you can't believe sometimes people I out there that don't do that that are in like the media that are in this that sort of video loves this s*** more than I mean how to hate Trump when it's like 90% they're f****** fault part is there's a lot of different things going on in sports you want your team to win that's a huge amount of that you know that movie Annihilation with Natalie Portman where they buy the same people can see that movie now alright well when you see the time to watch it it's pressing against the door she's fighting it and then she stops for a minute and then she gives it a grenade and pulls it in and gets away by being the more she would fight it would give equal reaction back at her reflection and you hate it the more they fight it the more it presses them back up against the door and that's that's there's nothing I'm never going to figure out how to just like give him the grenade and pull the pin and walk away cuz they can't like a Uzi he definitely makes mistakes but they are also so wrapped up in everything that he does in a way that they distort even things that probably turn out to be a good idea anything you like I'll do a thing every f****** day and what you going to do and people like there's like a bunch of us don't follow me they like his genius all the time you see Fighters talk s*** to each other right one of the reason why they talk s*** to each is it trying to get the other person emotionally invested in the fight right to try to get him angry and pissed off we're going to do something irrational they're not going to be logical right that's what you're saying front and he was like the people that vote for a feel like that Obama feeling that's what it's such an offense it's anything Obama did or didn't do its the feeling that it's send it right when you want that back always said about him I forget about his policies like he was a great Statesman the way he would talk that's because he was reserved and he was articulate and smooth and when you would hear them talk but that's an excellent representation of the United States where's like the thing with Trump is that he's you know like you said he's not really a politician so he's just being the guy who's always been there but it's like I thought you were going to be a president though I thought you going to act like we need cuz you want to be called POTUS people got him for specifically the opposite of that it's done now so people still want that The West Wing or whatever the f*** like that's what it is it's like your West Wing kind of people that you want well I think it exposes how not rigged it is cuz it's only controlled it no f****** way to know you don't like trolls some of it well this is one of the reasons why they're so scared of Tulsi gabbard cuz she doesn't lay down like that you see that moment was Kamala Harris in the debates they haven't either the internal thing you got to settle with all the people that are actual left that are like mad and they want their Trump so they're not going to go along with the same cuz cuz I think a lot alike just liberals don't get that the the lefties hate you more than they hate or not they hate you more than any right-winger just a regular liberal that's who they want to get them that's why they turn on Eleanor whoever the f*** cuz they're waiting to have a reason to turn on you cuz cuz I think a lot alike just liberals don't get that the the lefties hate you more than they hate a Nazi they hate you more than any right winger just a regular liberal that's who they want to get them that's why they turn on Ellen or whoever the f*** cuz they're waiting to have a reason to turn on you

was that that's where the benefit of bad things actually comes in sometimes like some of the best things or bad things that are good by accident right the room movie in New York for a promo thing for Comedy Central first but then I never seen the movie so I kept going back in like hosting it and then we made a fake sequel to it this guy George glass and he he knew Tommy sapani would leave me some long messages this f****** the guy who played oh hi Mark Greg his name is he wrote that book that they made the movie the one who got a b******* and his like yeah I remember because I thought a bunch of times I don't think I've ever seen all the way through in the theater I've never gone know I never went to that has like Rocky Horror Picture Show cat thing I never did that people yelling signs of a band playing in like yeah it was great but they do that because they actually like it yeah but I mean I had to have another friend dress kind of like s***** and distract him so he wouldn't see the parody thing we made before we showed it and leave a reviews yeah but that did nobody listen to Tamika thing that's watch ably bad is like that's a beautiful thing that can only rarely happen a bad it has become a cult hit trust me this is the worst movie you will ever see ever in your entire life ever but it's it's like watchable where it's not boring got to think it just not boring so I think that's like a real lightning in a bottle but it's the worst movie because they're trying to make a good movie that's not the worst movie to watch I think it's the best to go to a thing by the theater people it's like the best people shouting at the screen. Because you have cancer with cancer when did you only seen it on like I guess it was DVD at the time or what I can't do this forever forever the movie complect I've seen this life like I've seen it in person might have had it up still had a billboard up forever but there's a couple movies like that like Showgirls the movie like that or so I don't remember it I could die just vaguely remember it's a good one I hope the end of Elizabeth Berkley after that that's hard to bounce back from some of those movies but it cuz the movie so bad or because it was you know who knows man she went from Saved by the Bell play WoW looking good freak Mario Lopez looking good everybody's looking good so when they coming back as the other the parents remember when he was doing stand-up yes member of Judah friedlander was his roommate and then he would come out and be like to eat what it was like to have a sandwich and I'm not going to touch it for a while but I want that sandwich is that what it said Hugo like he's dirty now he likes give you get it I don't know he would always be there like I never met him I don't think maybe one time but he would always be on the wall I come in next week Skippy from Family Ties remember those the first guy that I worked in a club where he worked and I was like oh yeah that guy from TV is coming next week get it I don't know he would always be there like I never met him I don't think maybe one time but he would always be on the wall I come in next week Skippy from Family Ties remember those the first guy that I worked in the club where he worked and I was like oh yeah that guy from TV is coming next week

has there been discussion it like as anybody brought this out like a Dan Crenshaw was not aware of this when I discussed it with him when they were talking about federally legalizing marijuana right it's not just about saying it's okay for kids right it's a it's about mitigating these problems that you have with cartel sure is when there is an illegal opportunity to sell something that there's a demand for than the criminals going to sell it and that's what we have now exactly and it has there been discussion like to someone to bring this up like this is one of the primary problems with having marijuana federally illegal with California having its state legal that there is this massive confusion in this you know diminishing of penalties in California with growing illegally there totally is and you know you got the opposite ends of the Spectrum in and here's what we're learning with regulation I've always said this I said look if we're going to regulate and we need to regulate to stop this black market let's do it smart you know let's for one everything we we we really try to push here in California was regulate legitimate cannabis the correct way keep people safe child it tested make sure those pesticides cartel pesticides are absolutely man and other people they're not destroying waterways when I get in gunfights over it great you know no problem but for like that you know the outdoor trespassing with these cartels let's take that funding and put more effort into stopping that you know that's not water down to misdemeanors and infractions things like that and you know it's an even if we keeping take cannabis out of the equation show from the standpoint of I remember a few years ago as quoted by the Associated Press of saying if cherry tomatoes were so desired on the black market or illegal and people were paying $4,000 a pound for cherry tomatoes we haven't gun fights over cherry tomatoes and having band Poison Sun cherry tomatoes that are kids are being in the salads you know because of the black market so you can take you know cannabis even out of the equation and look at the environmental in and look at the public safety but we have to do something to regulate this thing uniformly over the across-the-board and we have to break the black market but what I've seen and I go into the last chapter of my new book hidden were extensively on this is what are the challenges moving forward after seeing regulation in play for 2 years boots-on-the-ground watching it and having a great relationship with legit legitimate cannabis Growers and I'll tell you a few stories that really open my eyes and and got us unified right cuz the whole thing is we the unified on this concept non-polarized left to ride anti cannabis grow cannabis let's get you to fight environmental safety Public Safety all of it but because of how we regulated and the licensing fees and the protocol and everything else we've had all of these you know Black Market growers in the 215 days that wanted to get legal and saw everything coming into cost to do it and being on Big Brothers radar or law enforcement's radar and they backed out like in Humboldt County we had it like I want to stay in the better part of ten to fifty thousand Growers ready to regulate and we barely got a thousand you know and they went you know I can't afford to go through this permitting process I can't afford the delay so I'm just going to go back on the black market I'm not going to be on the radar and that has to stop if we're going to regulate right now the thing it was what was really interesting and I never saw this coming but win and we're about to roll out prop 64 and you know it had been voted and recreational and in the medical laws were tidying up how's the first law enforcement guy being from a marijuana enforcement team to to go into these California Grower Association hosted grower meetings in Santa Cruz right over the hill from my place right and I mean I'm in the oven be to use the camo bottoms the polo I'm going in might you might rain attire for met and the look on 500 Grovers faces when I walked into that meeting just like what you doing here tell your story I'm going to show you a powerpoint it's going to be graphic I'm not here to work anybody you know I'm here to unify just hear what I have to say no judgement and so I was on these guys aware of how big the situation was before because bite but anyway I explain that literally would back in hundreds and hundreds of yards of pipe and tubing like roses on their back other tough yeah I've got I got photos in the new book on trail cam with felt on their feet covering their tracks with the sea bags 100 + pounds and a split pipe they're tough and there I mean to look at the environment they live in for 6 months man they're all Outdoors but I was at this meeting and I gave the presentation I talked about it and it was crazy to see look a shock on these these groups faces I mean some women were in tears some of the guys were just like pissed off and pump in their face and they're like that's b******* we are not about that we're not about doing anything bad with our water we like our wild life we just want to grow cannabis we want to be regulated you know and it was such a turnaround you know from the traditional relationship between law enforcement and a cannabis world and has to be the one guy there with all of the growing Community there and then go from complete horror that I was there isn't a berseria judgment or anything of that or you know to to do anything negative from enforcement standpoint to suddenly haven't real talks about was going out and and I could kind of see the authenticity but genuine is on some of their faces reacted to my slides to the videos and so when I left that first meeting I remember I just got flooded in my patrol truck and I had Apollo with me my little lab and she's an icebreaker I thought well could be an interesting meeting I should have the dog for pets you know and she jumped in and I always Growers were coming to my truck and I'm packing up my stuff and while this is weird and was always you know farmer supervisors from all over the state Mendocino County of the Emerald Triangle Santa Cruz just give me their cars and I have work I have resources we will hike and clean up a grow with you let us help the Met team let us help the Cannabis program whatever we can do and no no charge and and that was genuine man I was really really taken back by that in a positive way and I realized if we get the legitimate Farmers on her side and they're aware of this they will help Market that message nikhil they have money and they have money Cochran campus as it is right but if we could allocate that taxes absolutely to you guys would be incredible where's the money going let's have a certain percentage of it designated for wardens that's starting to happen to because what's now that we've had a couple of years and we're seeing some of the regulatory funding on the taxes trickle back I'm in contact with my team all the time I still get to see him periodically and train and do things like that and really give him a shout out for amazing Risser taken in the work they're doing and promote their message with her out there doing but the money starting come back to us now we're starting to get equipment we start to get more bodies or starting to get like overtime funding so the ridiculous long hours are small Teamworks are compensated for that just happened literally you know within a month or two of Abbey on the show with you so we should have some positives it's great stuff makes your mouth smacked out gives a little it does a little more problems they still have a black market you know and anything right now because we're not regulating federally and so every state anything that's grown stays in that perlot right but every all the demand is back east in these non-regulated states are I don't grow it sew Colorado has you know when Interstate Black Market that's done by the you know quasi legitimate Growers as well as the cartel element so they're still that black market thriving within you know the black market cannabis industry that isn't cartel public lands we got different mixes and we've got a different kind of a problem in Colorado so they don't have as many Epsom I talked to those guys work with him a little bit and they do have some but again they're kind of like where I'm at Montana now tight little growing when do you know early winners late father's plea don't have a very good growing season Outdoors the conditions aren't Prime like they are here in Cali this is a giant issue that is largely undiscussed and it's one of the reasons why I was so fascinated by that podcast isn't it and this is one more one more piece of the puzzle when you talk about border control somehow or another we've gotten into this state in our country this this place our country where some people want to control the border and some people don't want any borders right and do you have to understand that this is the number one problem with the border the number one problem with the borders cartel violence cartel violence cartel crime that's the number one problem and the giant percentage of these people that are coming over and doing illegal activity or doing it because it's profitable write a reason why profitable is because it's illegal and so they can do these things and then sell marijuana Friday all over this country illegally because it's illegal and if it was legal we could regulate it we could tax it the money go into schools and pay for guys like you and and go to fixing this problem instead we're playing this little stupid game where you know some states are legal in some states are and lets lets you know and it's federally it's still schedule 1 time when there's millions of legitimate law-abiding taxpaying citizens and enjoy it and crazy it is and into that point you know you you look at you know the discrepancy and just the inconsistency on cannabis regulation some states I'm not federally not but when you go to the Border issue you brought up that good point of it's not just that cartel element for Discount this poison cannabis stuff for this toxically Tina canvas as a better way to phrase it it's the smuggling traffic in this all those other crimes I may have sediment production so I'm not sure I get asked a lot like after you know what you had a great conversation with the with with my Baker on this was no are open borders going to work and no again about some regulation it's just not going to work does not even so that's why I open borders are going to wear it right if the world was even then start a dialogue in last week. Yeah boy is he scared the s*** out of you though when he comes to the stories about Maco about how bad I was down there and there's there's just an insane amount of violence it's going on down there and it's insane amount of crime and so much of it is connected to the illegal drug trade and it looked that you're not going to kill at all if you make marijuana legal but you would kill a percentage at least it would make it a little bit better and Woodstock that yeah it one of the things we we we get from from getting that regulation if we can stop that black market for you know cartel weed we're going to save a lot of wildlife we're going to preserve a lot of water weighs right because all those other crimes are very heinous and very destructive and I hate to see the human trafficking and all the meth problems and and anything related to violence or by deterioration of a soul but you know I love the wild man was Irma Church yours D I mean what you do for conservation the elk hunting that you're doing all those different things it's magical out there and it's just most people just don't even know I don't think know but I know you don't get a chance to experience what it's like to actually be a real Woodsman the real woods Witcher but what you're getting shrinker smaller and smaller and smaller even here in Cali that is so much Beauty but I look at it this way I said look if we lose all over open space to a problem like this and a compound the problem and we lose our wildlife and good water you may not be in the outdoors right now you might be a preservationist you might be you know on your freaking digital ice all the time and looking at Wildlife through through screen but if you ever do go out and you get that peace and Tranquility to get Center like we do run a trail hike Aveeno LA County Mountain Trail open space don't even get that far in the woods it's just soothing you know brings us back to our Center in you know if the new generations that aren't getting that from the cities can get that or they get their kids doing it with our grandkids are here about it but it's not there to go do that to me man we're just we're just not paying for it this is this is something I got to stay on and I really appreciate you and what you stand for because of the message I think just some people don't know yeah I just think that's a big part of it I said I don't know what's interesting to me to is that the allocation of resources that it's it's so when you have something that's illegal you're not getting any of that money no and if it was legal there's an enormous amount of money that could go to schools and fix the roads and we can allocate it to a bunch of different big time you leave ways to spend it and we're not doing that and it's it's the reason why is because that illegal and this is crime problem is very similar to what they faced during prohibition with alcohol and you the rise of organized crime and that's where they were getting their money from because there was such a demand it's really a disgusting dumb way to approach problem that is many people's ideas of social problem that money could go to so many. positive things for perpetuating it true that reason and many others we're basically you know we're basically embedding a problem in our country and Ed said this called romwe our dialogue in earlier this week and he said you know he's kind of look at things from the border and South and the issues coming in from the border from the cartel front he said you know now getting into your book and I'm starting to analyze what year you guys are fighting on the ground inside the borders of California the rest of country goes it's embedded now I mean it's not like it's just coming across mean the Enterprises in here in the nation because they have the pipeline they have the distribution they have a market and they don't have to deal with border issue and round for bull because of exactly where we're at and when people aren't aware of and in California that it's just a misdemeanor which is even more so yeah it's that's got to change a background and crime especially violent crime and you get caught doing something like that I mean it should be severe severe penalty it should absolutely severe the same Grace that is when we get the environmental crimes that we bring from the fish and wildlife standpoint to those charges for these guys we get it back to felony status because we had an interesting thing happen as soon as all that regulation started two years ago and the water you know those trespass programs or water down hangover talking about District Attorney's all throughout the state said oh man we're not going to be able to prosecute these crimes I mean we're not going to have you know we're not going to have a jury that's static to these issues it's not worth it some Sheriff's departments were saying hey we know how violent these guys are we know your team's been in like six gun fights man and your partner was almost killed in 05 in the first one you guys take these guys head on you know you want to protect your Wildlife whatever but they're not stopping and it's a misdemeanor and we can't convict him so we're not going to play so a backlash of those crimes be watered down Joe was team stop working it except us and like the feds you know and not only that. execute so I remember speaking for the California District Attorneys Association on this and saying guys are the solution everybody no matter where they sit on the Cannabis Spectrum everybody hates to see Bambi dead water poisoned everyone has a little bit of environmental passion in my both sides of the fence and that's why I say here we get to the you we can unify and not worry about where we sit on the performer against and if you take these water code enhancements if you take the felony in the penal code from the band you take these water code enhancements if you take the felony in the penal code from the band toxic Carlos here in if you take a streambed alteration diversion or dead Wildlife or littering close to estate Waterway you stack all those up you get all these penalties and you can convicted on that you know even in a sympathetic jury on Sia cannabis issues so we started to prosecute these cases and it started to come back and it's an arduous and around it's more work than we should have to do but we're doing

what happened to what do we know about the Kanye situation or used to talk about mental health but I was kind of excited about that you know if he wants to he can do it I'm not dumb he's he is a brilliant artist but oftentimes a brilliant artists not that's not the best format for them to just talk like sometimes is better for them to express themselves for their work made out although I found you I spent two days with him I found that when he's in a relaxed frame his flow state is just it's beautiful enjoy talking to him or talk to him on the phone I really enjoyed our conversation conversation he's I think he's a very good dude very sensitive human be a very cool guy but this is not a relaxed environment you know this right here everybody knows how many people are listening it's just that I have you and me talking and then I come out of here if you want our friends that illusion is more maintained it when you don't know me and you come in and I mean I have to be friends with words that's why I think she wanted me to come to his church and I want to call essentially everybody's wearing white or all day on some doing religious stuff I do that but I'm not in her walking down the road and you know there was this crip alert from Long Beach said you know, you better stay in Calabasas it was like a little bit of a 10 situations or walking along the road and like people were hanging out of the windows of their car yet, but it was very I was nervous how long ago was this this was humor when he went on TMZ or less last six months or so he's been off of his medication and he whatever they had him on was f****** with him creatively Olivehurst at this chapter in The Man Who mistook his wife for a hat about a drummer with Tourette Syndrome now and then he just took a drug to control the Tourette syndrome and the guys driving became kind of monotonous very regular but like not creative what that guy's got inside of him he's so prolific and then you listen to his music out more great s*** he doesn't have any flops I mean his pretty f****** amazing and he's just that's his s*** and he knows how to just get in there and create and he's got this whirlwind going on in his mind he's Fearless he is Explorer and only into the details but one of the things are really impressed me was he would go to places that I'm too scared to go to in my own mind and I'll just you know thinking about your inadequacies and externalizing them in your vulnerabilities knowing you know what is going to emasculate you and his point is like I'm so comfortable with myself that I'm going to mine that as a source of art because I bet it's in everyone and you know by exploring these contradictions and these false fronts and you know he's got a level of internal access I'm actually quite interested in the mental health aspect of this which is there so much so much mental on health as we return that I don't think it's all mental and health I do think that there's something about the artistic process that seems to be very informed by state that we call in hell yeah well we require people to stay inside his rigid boundaries and these rigid boundaries there the grade if you want to show up at a job and work 9 to 5 and don't use certain noises with your mouth because it makes people upset you know but that's not for the creative process of look at true outliers if you want to discuss through outliers like people that are really capable of producing extraordinary art or architecture Works different interesting things that are part of the creative process those people are all unwell every single one of them I mean in terms of like if you made him do what a normal person has to do everyday I think normal life is unwell in terms of this this requirement of showing five minutes early working all day long getting off maybe bring some of your work home getting some sleep getting up in the morning and doing it all over again all while raising a family and trying to enjoy your time you're limited finite time on this planet or this is why I said I've left left is that is not healthier five minutes early working all day long getting off maybe bring some of your work home getting some sleep getting up in the morning and doing it all over again all while raising a family and trying to enjoy your time you're limited finite time on this planet for this is why I said I've left you left that is not healthier

and he he got up they want to know what he learned from his human medical experiments so he they let him off golden pressure and like it's f****** Grizzly there and it's just the he did so many amoral like experiment he there's knowledge that helps a little kid did we did not know that officially officially tell us what you got just let him go imagine being that guy who killed like hundreds of people and they just let you go 11 development in application of biological weapons that you didn't 731 and how do you say that word meant you go Mantua Mantua, oh I say that manchuca button Juco that you and I were together how do you say that is it Anyway second sino-japanese war from 1937 to 1945 Bubonic plague attack oh and oh my God and the Planned attack against United States across the country dial Warfare they're going to drop by and play color of smallpox when I was in high school girls cute American civilians near Bly Oregon and Medford Oregon and cause a short circuit on the power supply power lines supplying electricity for the nuclear reactor cooling pumps in the Manhattan Project production facility holy s*** dude did you know that we dropping on it Balloons with bombs attached to him but was it supposed to that was part of it but what I did hear on it was an episode they did about this on one of my favorite podcast which is a Radiolab Radiolab did a whole series or a whole episode rather about these balloons at people Define these non detonated balloons and I think people accidentally blew themselves up a couple of times but think a bunch of them made it here and some of them went off and some of them didn't contaminated fleas. Robinson helmet Leo my God that's so dark Jesus Christ I'm so glad we're friends of Japan oh so everything is about a mean Japanese General and like a brave Chinese somebody is really everything is about Amin Japanese General and like a brave Chinese somebody is really China

Sears man we are just tested on yes apparently it's been some controversy about this so just let me let everybody know right away there's no shortage of antibody tests and what were using there's no shortage of them people say white people in the front light and it's just misunderstanding and confusion these tasks there's no shortage of I understand some people in some places have a hard time getting access to the test not the case here so I take it upon myself to test everybody as a coming to the studio is not taking away from anybody that's on the front lines cuz I'm taking test away from any medical workers that does the test they would use for them particularly that they're using swabs I mean look man those f****** people that are working in those hospitals in the medical workers those people are legit hero yes you know and if I found out that there was something we were doing that was somehow another taking away from there would you be tested I would never do it so people got upset apparently because people writing articles about things cuz you know it's like it's Hot Topic right and their own people like posted some story making comments from Instagram and using them as quotes just some random mcgough that's posting something in this one of them said that we were low-key flexing that we had tests higher time I just shared with you earlier today there was a new study that Jamie Siri pull up that study it is out of I think it's out of UCLA is that what I do it's it says early antibody tests indicate far more cases and a much lower mortality rate Ryan so they think there's at least four hundred. people have been infected in in California so the mortality rate is way way lower than they previously thought it was at least in California you know it's obviously varies there's a crazy disease if it's raised doesn't make any sense it varies depending upon your physical condition whether or not you've been smoking with a night is apparently up a great benefit to exercising regularly even while you have it if you cash it exercising but then it was his f****** what is that guy's name the fox thing we'll do the first there's a there's one on La, look at you indicates far more covid-19 cases lower mortality rate there's a decrease in number of deaths study indicates that there could be hundreds of thousands of people could be infected without knowing it that's what's so weird about it the only time they think that if they catch it before the symptoms set in you survive survive but if they don't catch it for the symptoms I didn't like you just get rabies you don't get over like I do every black person I know always cross the street the only time they think they if they catch it before the symptoms set in you survive survive but if they don't catch it for the symptoms I didn't like you just get rabies you don't get over like I do every black person I know always cross the street when they see a random dog

California the Farmland between here and San Francisco is crazy Republican up there you see these you know anti-abortion Billboards pro-trump Billboards and oh my goodness it's gone till like 7 p.m. and they crash they go back to the farm again trying to keep it together f*** man when it comes to like Farmers there's one thing you get a lot of to get a lot of religion and I'm not exotic value judgment it's just but you get a lot of religion and you get a lot of Republicans to get a lot of that it's not that common that you get to cows like that those kind of farmers it's nothing wrong with that they need them that those f****** are a lot of those people are Republican you got to wonder like maybe it's just like the party of the people that really bust their ass and they they want that they want that that hard-working farmer ethic is like there's no room for bullshiting at life if you got to get up at 6 in the morning and feed the chickens milk the cows and then do s*** all day long and you're barely paying your bills you don't want to hear anybody you don't want to hear any b******* and so I think a lot of them are Republicans because Republicans stands for like the snow bulshit perspective on life the think the Democrats want to hand out their money and take too much of the taxes but it's because of their reality it's cuz the reality is particularly grueling occupation these people have taken on you know it's it's almost like a mistake of perspective in the whole world and see where they're their positions play difficult position they might think the whole world is like that but it's not necessarily like you just chose something that's a Preposterous Endeavor I mean I mean that in an admirable way I'm admiring Farmers work ethic have you took a regular person's you were made in the morning mad and you're barely going to make any money and you're going to have crazy loan and you're going to need to be subsidized and some people do it and love it and swear by it is a whole Spectrum but that Dad has got to test you and if you think about how crazy that is that's not more lucrative what is more valuable. they should be taken care of fruits there bring you fruit and you give them paper you get their fruit and sustained you and the number 2 teachers do make a difference Mr friedenberg you'll never you never be able to draw a woman until you've had a woman already said that house and he was in Middle School when I was in I was in the Mary Curley Middle School in Jamaica Jamaica Plains which is at the time it was a real sketchy neighborhood outside of Boston suburb will not a suburb of Boston but you know Intercity remove there from Florida and that was the only place we could afford when I was kid and she was like 17 year old kids in my seventh grade class baby kept saying like all I need is radishes and salt and that's my lunch and I grew my lunch and I meant thinking how nice guys out there growing his lunch even out here in the city but this is the big thing you said to me because you never want to hurt your head he goes just go outside and look up at space and realize how big it is trying to imagine something that has no end if you really want to hurt your brain just try to imagine the space has no end that f****** up I was like 13 oh my God he's right but there's no end and I swear to God that became a big part of the shift and how I started view in the world

also at night there's something about the darkness where I'm like I just you know I do a lot of my really f*****-up think when everyone else in my house is asleep and yeah you know that's my sparkup that's when I write my best s*** to it was when everyone's asleep asleep I'm sitting around thinking like me an earthquake what if that's what is an asteroid hits one of the worst disease catches on what if there's a war between us and China over this b******* in China talking with the only reason why you're in Powers cuz the surveillance and what have you done to the world like what you guys have done cuz you cuz of your disgusting pride and you you've hidden the facts from people you've tried to distort the reality and because of hundreds of thousands of people are going to die or what it was deep and dreamless light like you never read a letter like that were a one world leaders shiting on another world leader is that it but you know because they ate they don't admit any fault ever whenever anything goes wrong they cover everything up and there's so many people to criticize the government in China they just wind up getting ghosted they just disappeared vanished yeah like they never hear from them again over there is that if we give into that kind of like they have apps on their phone right now but give them a social score you know so I can feed jaywalk you lose points maybe I'd rather keep your s*** together and be nice or maybe the government will be watching every goddamn thing you do all day long and hold that over you and then they'll use that order to gain more political power that's just as possible and more likely of your Social score is like manipulated or wrong the downside is a lack of freedom and that's the whole reason why the United States is so Innovative the whole Reese's is this this we have his Spirit over here this was Spirit of freed we can do more we can get more s*** done we can we can come up with ideas we we celebrate this sort of creative creative spirit and we think I've only think of the United States we think of Freedom we think of creativity so much Innovation done over here the moment you start clamping down on people and taking away Freedom you're also going to take away their creativity you're also going to take away that Innovative the thought mentality going to make people scared and you going to do it just so you can control them and it's f*** it still worse go to take away that Innovative the thought mentality going to make people scared and you going to do it just so you can control them as f*** it's the worst like one of the one of the things about the United States that makes it so great is that we have the ability to criticize our government to talk s*** and that keeps people in check

Gracie was another famous Jiu-Jitsu practitioner he was asked to describe to just chill and he's like I'm going to paraphrase this time I f*** it up he said he said it was basically like I move and then you move and then I moved and then you move forever ever bech32 fuk up you going to get tired you going to be using too much strength and you're going to get exhausted just like those boxers that were throwing punches and they'll get tired and then they got a piece of mom but it's going to be even more horrific cuz you never going to be able to accomplish anything you just going to slowly wear out you guys just going to keep attacking you and you keep pushing him off you and going to keep attacking you and you keep exploding and going to keep attacking dude be good for you yeah I really good for you but I have to be in there with kids when I first thought and to the pornstar who are the TV show on Showtime and he had this idea pretty bold of him really he's Brave to do is we just decided I'm going to do like a Jiu-Jitsu match I've never taken just before but I'm going to spar with a woman and see what happens and this girl just f***** him up Stop & Shops near California she's awesome but she's super technical so this guy hasn't he was doomed you just didn't know he was a guy he's in really good shape is Young and fit and pretty good bodies just bitched and triangles but again that would happen to any man didn't know anything and went with her even though she's a woman technical expertise it overcomes strength it's so for a guy like you who's a very cerebral person would like some sort of puzzles and figure things out it's one of the reasons why your commie is so good you're excellent at like economy of words and setting things up in a mysterious way and then dropping punchline similar I like that I think there's a lot of things like that in this life they are similar this little things that you you will learn like little ways to move around things in advance through these these games and systems and you can apply that to all these other different things you can apply to you in a comedy

people don't remember Bill Gates the old Bill Gate right people see Bill Gates now I see Bill Gates now and I see a guy wearing an outfit outfit looks like he's got a Spider-Man Spider-Man and you walk into a room it recognizes like how you like the temperature like you are a band yeah he called this though he called Iowa we weren't ready a pandemic like years ago 15 2015 take no prisoners businessman take-no-prisoners he's but he's pretending like he's you know you know 15 years old look at that crew look at that crew has like the Forrest Gump of the photos like this a lot of money

but to share that with everybody nationally in my world in the thin green line and for them to start having it happening on the refuges and even just a know this stuff's getting back to their parts of the world and poisoning there are cannabis users you unsuspectingly horrible information right but we need to know a lot of guys didn't know it and so that was one thing to see hey what we need a baseline training in the way we do it here in California is we all go through a really strange an academy everyone gets their basic tools arrest control defensive tactics and firearms training all of that and get good at being the traditional game warden doing all the traditional stuff and they get you know get get their feet wet out doing their own thing for a couple years and then we start to find the people that have the motivation I want to get onto a specialized unit like our met team or one of the Watershed teams or Wildlife trafficking team very seldomly do we put a fresh person there because you know I think to really be a good game warden you got to cut your teeth on all the traditional stuff Google just how how to check guys with guns all the time you know most cops look at that and go that's crazy I mean everybody you check has a knife or a firearm 99% on work I want to see a game warden and game warden wants to see us but for that one felon it's on parole and he's in the woods hiding out and we run across that a lot and I ran across a ton of that down here and So Cal at the start of my career and I'll get some interesting stories about that but so guys who are like Ben skip bail and then hide yep and they've got like a no-bail warrant their wanted on some warrant somewhere and so they're efficient they have an illegal firearm maybe there a felon in possession of a firearm they can't even have and now they're out and remote area where no cops going to find me here and then on the new game warden the Riverside County you know all freaking motivated really green I don't know totally what I'm doing yet and I'm in that truck cruising and something I got into down here that was just crazy but I will say this was a heck of learning curve and I'm really blessed it went out the way it did and it was definite but we would gang banger something from La here and they would go over in the Riverside County and get into my kind of rule Foothills on the edge of the national forest and they have AK-47s and they have you know automatic pistols and they would Spotlight through these Canyons gun in for everything they kill rabbits that kill coyotes they kill deer they get to the end of like a canyon that has like a an outlet of a damn bro Gill night out and spend all night or just gillnet fish turn freely and shooting and killing everything with the spotlights grab their gillnet grab hundreds of fish pack up and then head back you know back to the LA basin I just retired with what you and Marshall Ave Apollo yellow lab English lab she's amazing never to buy a bad guy but you can't lick them to death and try to shoot right you know turn them our way but I didn't have a companion dog the time and I would go and run into these guys and go okay this is what I learned in the academy that you know that that head-on spotlighting stop that you never want to have her get in behind and blacked out and track them down and next thing I know I got a case and I got all these freaking prohibit exotic weapons and I'm going this is crazy Tony's guys that alone I don't have a lot of last year it was just me how many guys did you run into some time to be to one. I pulled like eight people out of a man and I was alone ocean and they were all armed and it was one of my heaviest most intense cases and I've been on one year so this was 1994 and what we were doing in the Riverside Squad as we were just Saturday in the area cuz we're getting everybody from overlay side here spotlighting all our games are like okay with saturate this and back. Joe the game was to catch a spotlight a right-handed cuz they're so deliver his light spotlights all yeah I should I should have done that but there's a handheld Spotlight flashlight whatever and you going to remote areas and you look to find animals at night because they freeze the really relaxed their eyes glow and then you shoot him that way you kill him illegally at night after dark which is never allowed you know it's usually in or out of hunting season any ones go Spotlight a deer nine times out of ten they're they're not lice they're not going to do it during season like we do so they're doing that so in the in our world is game wardens that's the ultimate Wildlife criminal because they're going to kill those you know that have that unborn trophy Buck for good genetics they're going to kill a trophy deer weigh in the right you know that you know needs to go another year or whatever so that's what we focused on that was like if I can cut my teeth and get you know become a reputable game or in a going after the hardcore is that was the game then it was 94 and I'm pulling these guys out call him Alan Ladd I've got my weapon on him and I'm like oh man there's a lot of guys out there I can't get him to jail I'm calling back up I got Riverside County coming and I'm even have the Sheriff's Office helicopter come in several nights once we got to know each other and they realized who is this game or an order these game worms Riverside County going out and dug just crazy areas by themself they monitor our traffic and they come in on the helicopter and light it up and call them I'll call these bad guys out on loudspeaker system make sure we were okay and feels good when the calvary comes on those nice man let me tell you they just didn't know that you would ever run into someone that's that arm that many guys and a van or what have you ate people but it says hold there was a reason why your Patron by yourself because they didn't anticipate anything like this well and we do know the bodies right this was one of the things that was crazy we get back to the thin Green Line concept and realize it one game warden is responsible for 200 to 250 square miles give or take you know so I squat a seven-game words to put in perspective check this out brother so when I was supervising traditional Patrol before we started the special ops met team in Santa Clara County we always have vacancies because we always alone bodies we couldn't hire game Words fast enough we weren't funded for it over the case maybe so we might have for 5 game wardens for 7 positions and we had to cover all the Santa Clara County which is everything from the city to all those Foothills and there's a lot in Silicon Valley people don't realize all of San Benito County which is huge Hollister Gilroy right where I'm from in Gilroy that whole area down to the South that is just mass amount country full of Wildlife and then like part of Monterey County and I had five people in myself as Lieutenant that is insane I can't believe that so to go out on a spot to that point and have a partner with you just one other game warden that stuff you know you're basically pulling a whole other area you can work 9 or so is spotlighting common it is still going on in the state and its going on a lot back then here because we've been so little presents here in Southern California it was off the hook it was crazy one week in 1994 I remember I was at a really good ride along with me a wildlife biologist social Savvy Hunter great eyes he became kind of like my right-hand man Brian and we I said we're going to catch spotliter every night this week just think so I was a crazy let's see if we can do it and so we went and worked all night long you start Monday night how do you catch a body look for a spotlight like what you give me an appointment glass it's ya just like the glass in a big Basin for help write in a really good OverWatch you get the most visibility in a pie the truck and you watch and you find areas where it's likely to happen and it takes awhile to learn where that's going to be just because you got this huge district and you could have 20 places where guy spotlight you get into the areas a new war normally get to figure it all out you don't know where to be in it it's a trial-and-error but it took me six months give or take adjust just going out and it's gotten hard and in seeing where this road goes and how does that canyon look what type of water do I have down there what am I seeing a low light in the evening when animals are coming to Waterloo I got to hold her to healthcare I got a whole herd of deer got some bucks you know I'm seeing other animals run around this is going to be a hot spot because guys can get to it and if you just put the time and you just kind of lion wait you don't come up with tied together just like hunting big game eventually starts happening and by 1994 and I've been in District a year down here I pretty much had my spots figured out my partners in other parts of Riverside did too so we'd all be out alone so we can cover more area and talking back and forth I mean and I'm a date myself here but cell phones brand new so I'll have those flip cell phones and we're it was the flip phone you have the Star Trek Communicator, partnered really love those where you at their crate Haystack type thing you know but once you get into it you get really good at it but it it always is difficult because again just the percentages of catching a guy on the right night that he's going to be out there and then you got the guys are kind of get Savvy to North game warden lives driving by his house looking for his patrol truck to see if he's out that night where's the truck parked we start getting into that problem so we always kind of you know kind of maintain as covert as we can you know we're known in the neighborhood in the thing is we live at home we work out of our homes home crossword clue store Community because if we kept our truck in a field office we have no response time all spread out so we get very community-oriented in in community functions and conservation groups and everybody knows us whether it's a big city or small little town in the mountains so you got guys doing the cat-and-mouse thing looking for us and you know making sure he has his truck there or is he out patrolling I'll maybe I won't go out tonight but that would show in in 1994 was was off the hook I didn't get a spot lighter every night that week but I got 6 out of 7 at 1 a double so it's crazy Mom Season the time guns and you know some guys were going to jail somewhere but a lot of wildlife would say that night because they wouldn't they would it would have done a lot of harm you know most of these guys are they doing this recreationally forefathers unit for food like what are they the group I was getting into down here it was it was recreational it might have been to sell the meat I couldn't prove that or it was just to go kill stuff you do get people that need me you know that do Spotlight after dark because they need the meat and stuff like that it's still a violation we still deal with it as such but if we ascertain that we're going to be fair about it you know we said okay look you're poaching I know you're starving it's out of season since season you have a tag but you just really got to get that meat I mean there are certain cases we just kind of feel for that person to go I see what the motivation was you know and a very small percentage of poachers are that way but some of them were just you know they're just trying to feed their family and it's a whole different game we're going to be fair about it or we should be fair but most of them gang Bangerz are most of them criminals like what there's it was there a felony she Ridge down here seventy 80%. Criminal histories had illegal weapons associated with gains those almost like Recreation for that little boy that was practice guys pretty inebriated pretty liquored up and I'm as a head-on stop and one of them had a like a $50,000 no bail warrant for cocaine trafficking phone case down here that was a pretty crazy one it was it was three guys pretty inebriated pretty liquored up and almost a head-on stop and one of them had a like a $50,000 no bail warrant for cocaine trafficking out of Mexico and that was in that week that we had you know crazy Spotlight things going on so it was just the demographic of down here we're up north it it won't it won't be necessary that fell into that guy that just wanted a trophy buck and to get it cheap to get

what is the is there an estimate of how many cartel members are growing in this country right now if it with you save there's 27 28 States is that what you said what is the is there a rough estimate of how many cartel members are here right now doing this kind of this comes to it you know it's it's a real approximation because you only know based on who you catch your driving ability breathe but like in California when you're from the amount of grows we we deal with every year just on the trespass you know cartel front number of operatives it takes to run a grow and get it started and then harvested I mean conservative estimate 10,000 10,000 very conservative because it's such a kind of a silent Enterprise and it's really hard to get some of this data but we've we've just validated it through the numbers of things we run across you know when you look at the fact that it takes to skill Growers that are vetted because they cut their teeth done do do it effectively under the Federalist nose and they grow well in and you mention this weekend Mike Baker on the show which was interesting and you hit on the head when you said man these guys are really resourceful you know if you got to respect their work ethic and now you have to because they're there hiking water line of hiking infrastructure in their covering their tracks they're out there for 6 months at a time whole lot of photos in that book about things we've seen on trail cameras and they will put felt-lined line soft felt on their shoes time of tight and if they're walking like an Old Forest Road you know that's got a gravel base you'll never see that track I mean you know you've tracked a game I've done it you know it's the same type of technique and if you don't have any sign I mean the really good at disguising to actually found a guy and I have a picture of this in the book and also in the PowerPoint when I when I teach this throughout the country actually carved out of wood because a couple years ago we were in the u.s. forest service a lot of this grow problem is on or national forest you know Northern California Northeastern California not so much Silicon Valley where I started but the rest of this day even down here and what these guys to do with those cattle leases on those properties were in a Rancher can run cattle and part of the forest and you know originally on private property and we were getting tips on a bunch of crows you know where you seen from the air or Hunter Wrangler would report them or we do suspicion cuz of water weigh and we get see some plants from satellite or whatever and we go try to find the screen we weren't picking up tracks and we're we're pretty good at finding these things now we've been trialling are in it for a lot of lot of years but we're sitting like Halifax cuz we're running around with cows and sure enough they were putting on calipers and strap them on top or underneath their their boots clomping around to disguise themselves as cattle clever right and then once I get way up into a deep Canyon where they're going to put or they just take them off and throw my backpack in the light bulb went off with we better look at you know our tracks little more carefully so how do you guys try to go about finding these things do you do rely on people reporting them or do you have like aerial surveys how do you it's it's a mix of all event we get a lot of reports from people in the ground and are our best reporting parties or we call our peas are Hunters & Anglers I'm going to come to the outdoor public but across some butt Hunters & Anglers especially because where do we go when we when we're going to find a good water hole for Elk or you know what hunting black-tail we're going to go stay on the beaten path man we're going to go down to the headwaters we're going to find a pristine area we're going to get away from people so people that are going the deepest into the backcountry absolutely absolutely in their finding the water you know source and then maybe they're following it and it's dry or it's diverted like what I found in 2004 that started this whole craziness and running to aggro we also do find it from the area now we do all agencies it's no no secret and no tactical reveal we've we fly look for the stuff from the air I have a friend of found one on Tejon Ranch really yeah yeah a few years back and I didn't think anything of it I thought it was just some crazy person decided try to grow pot his back for is recreationally legal okay and it was no shootout or anything crazy like that they got there after realize that their grow up it been compromised and they took off but you know Tejon Ranch has enormous thick 270,000 Acres yeah and just the gall of these guys to go deep into that ranch and set up this grow site right on the guys who work there they I guess they just stumbled upon it I think they stumbled upon it because of garbage to if I remember correctly yeah that that that follows track in the thing now you're talkin about private hunting ranches got a catalyst and all that tones huge we've done a lot of good stuff supported you know good hunting programs are but an interesting statistic when I retired last year in December 2018 you know I mean we keep stats ever since one of the cool things about the are specialized team start in 2013 as we solidified all the documentation to be spot-on you know reporting was kind of haphazard throughout this day we weren't sure what other agencies were doing but we knew what we were doing now and so I'm keeping that data and there was a real shift in just public land presence of these cartel Growers and by the time I retired last year I won't have 50/50 split so ranches like Tejon Ranch a private hunting club in the Silicon Valley one up in Shasta County so you know where they're doing big-time conservation projects to get black tail and mule deer in Tule elk and everything else up and numbers and now they've got this presents on their hunting club hitting one of their sensitive waterways you know so so it's it's not just a public land thing is really good for everybody listening to know that you can find it anywhere in and you stumbled on it and it is 20 mm reporting parties a cool thing after I did Stephen show on a mediator and talk to those guys was hard to get tips actually got a tip and you know when it's it's in play and I won't say too much more about it but will definitely be talking when it's all over and done but it's it's going to get handled and it's so cool to see the guys like you and I didn't love it and love the passion of what's out there are out there stumbled on this stuff and getting out safely and and were fired up enough not to wait you don't work for calling people to say it's out there can you help us Ritz award a mediator and talk to those guys we start to get tips actually got a tip and you know when it's it's in play and I won't say too much more about it but will definitely will be talking when it's all over and done but it's it's going to get handled and it's so cool to see the guys like you and I didn't love it and love the passion of what's out there are out there stumbled on this stuff and getting out safely and and were fired up enough not to wait you don't work for calling people to say it's out there can you help us with the warden Sheriff's

don't these dogs that your training know Phoebe was like there was very interesting listening to how effective is using Belgian Malinois that were using your permit earlier main dogs Belgian Mel and Powerful dogs they are amazing so smart and I can't talk enough about it man cuz no matter where you sit everybody loves a good dog story and you know some people say well Dual Purpose you got a bike guys what's what with that is really aggressive and look at it's a lifesaver for everybody it's a lifesaver for us Lifesaver for the suspect to because it usually involves a potential gunfight at the dog basically you know alleviated because she or he was there so we got our K-9 program in agency going kind of full speed around 2018 I'm at 3 we have three levels of canine we have like the companion right along canine the kind of does everything with you she's never going to bite anybody unless Apollo that's like my lap right then we have the detection level dog eye muscles are Labradors like Marshall like Apollo because Labs have such amazing noses they really can hold on sent you know that they can trained it to Tech many cents and we certify him and different things and then there's the feebies you know the bells romells or the Shepherds and really it's become mostly males now in our age why Mount horse shelters in the heat you know Shepherds have longer hair and 100° weather we're on Long hikes you know or unsupported those dogs might have to sit quietly after hiking 8 Miles and sit in a prone quietly while we're watching observing and stocking it on suspects to make an apprehension in a rest safely and hopefully avoid a gunfight so and we also found with the with the males it's like I said they just hold up better on average and they're certainly exceptions to that but when we got our Dual Purpose program back on track these are dogs that will buy 22 on command but they have great noses so let's still detect wonderfully you know Finding evidence fine in tainted weed whatever the case may be a firearm a bear gallbladder all of that but they'll also you know like Phoebe was nicknamed the fur missile because when it was time for her to go to work and some guy was going to pull a weapon on us she was all business and cool thing about a dog like her in the end and Michael and I got into I'll hit you especially in he was going away he said I've never heard of a dog in a domestic law enforcement team that's had like a hundred sixteen apprehension bites in her career and she has 216 know JoJo Diaz on the cool thing about that was a stampede of life she saved and she also arrest another 8 to 900 that she didn't have to buy in her career why how many of you guys arrested when I retired with over thousand and in five and a half years yeah and we ran against all grow-ops grow-ops are related to grow up so that they are all guys that are armed all gussied up knives or guns you know that you're not getting bit unless you know you're a deadly force threat on some level or significant threat so yeah it's been a lot of guys so that number that you talking about 10,000 I think it's very much so yeah that is so insane because if you fly over like Humboldt or any any of these areas I can particularly medicino Northern California the density of the forest of the the the public land out there there's a lot of land there's a lot of land in a lot of potential we're not seeing so and that's still still thriving so when you you know when you when you look at Phoebe has a canine and you go well let's see if she was in the field doing these type of operations for about seven or eight and yeah that's great for my records standpoint and numbers in the life you save but it gives you a like a like a snapshot of the issue how many guys did we not catch that were out there or that we weren't involved in and the dogs are just say lives man they have saved this in the new book especially in 2012 but right before our team started Phoebe save my life Brian's life and all these other operators in Santa Clara County in Silicon Valley right where I grew up engage the guy that was pulling up a Russian automatic pistol on me and I was the support for the for Brian I was basically a k9 Handler or support guy and Brian had to deal with this other Growers partner that had a big Taurus Judge revolver on his hip and he was pulling it so he goes for that guy and says John just take my dog to be something by it and he's biting this guy in the calf and yeah this guy's nose down and we don't know he's got this weapon and I start to see it coming out and I get on him and I do what I need to do some physical control and Strikes and whatnot to get the gun Christian but had she not been on that guy in a bike show. Guns turned on me at 5 feet I'm engaged All The Rifleman behind me on you know I'm in a gunfight again we've been in too many of those already how many gun fights in 6 and I've been on the ground for four out of the six there guys have been involved in and they've all been around this particular problem we had a lot last once the team about formalize and so we started using dogs but we still had two during the window of the team being operational that we could avoid and dog four out of the six other guys have been involved in and they've all been around this particular problem we had a lot less once the team got formalize and so we started using dogs but we still had two during the window of the team being operational that we could avoid and dogs played a big part in that as I go into a new stories

we all need to realize like how you can't wait for s*** no cuz this can happen now that we know that this could help me feel real here we are we know it's real right we know it's really know you just got to anybody test we know we can't really go anywhere we can't go to restaurants everything's closed no, do we know it's real but it still doesn't feel real big pasture fundings please contact our website at the moment into the moment that's a style of radio that you would get I was when I was delivering newspapers I would listen to All Things Considered things all things to do something on NPR National Public Radio whatever those old-school type of talk radio that's what I that's what I knew I was ready to get married when I like listening to talk radio conservative talk radio think about how that happened like how did that room had that one genre that hardcore right-wing like we did that got real angry angry is right it kind of is and let me talk to like NPR Here welcome welcome to our show we're going to tell you about a new scientific experiment that shows that there are no such thing as gender somebody virus did not come from a lab it's a dangerous conspiracy and here's why I want to f*** you voice I want to f*** you boys but I'm low-key about it hello yes I loved one equal I do want to do a parody of of NPR show cousin cousin cousin at a place like dramatic music and s*** today what they tell stories like and you'll be listening to tell me about the daily she said she was supposed to say right in here three things you need to know WNYC news radio angry Brian count cuz you tell me something as if he had liked got it from a book Radiolab try to hit me with some scientific

Trump like even Trump like as much as he hates it he has tone down a lot of his rhetoric because of the criticisms he's faced you know and that's it's important it's very important to him and he has the that's one thing as viruses making everybody have to do their job everyone have to actually do their job wondering if you would do it again all over again if you knew how hard it would be and how much you would get s*** on I don't know I think it was so funny when he presented to me was like it was like like the hot new nightclub you know what I mean like everybody was in there you know what is like like a nightclub and you can pretend to be who you want to be and you can just in the coronavirus comes and that's like when the lights come on in the club and you get to see you know I have fuckedupshit really is and and so was when the cold country just kind of like I said I was going to go with your biting regardless of how loose if you feel he is or how sharp you thinking is when the whole country is like his Uncle Joe just let me think like Trump is like a fancy a nice resort like hotels is the number one thing I want to do that but after awhile you get tired of spending $21 for internet and $40 for pancakes and you just want to go home and enjoy his kind of sent it felt like he represent home you don't mean like people I kill all the kids dementia but I think he's going to be propped up by so many different people going to motor like President Obama's going to come out in the door soon and if he doesn't listen that's crazy what I'm saying because he's familiar he was dead next to the guy that we all felt more comfortable with especially in situations like this endorsement video straight up gaslighting matter whether or not I think he's going to lose I do think is going to lose record even if I thought he's going to win he shouldn't do the job he there's no way you can take the pressure of that position with the cognitive decline that he's already showing but there's no but you just want the Democratic party to be back in control I get it how much time does Michael open the damn trying to give you an example to me just the way that Trump is handling having any kind of criticism is anything it's unsettling it's like so you have to have degrees or whatever but to be in charge of everybody else that guy who's in charge of everybody else is just it's like man I just wish he didn't cost so much just wasn't the way he he was you know what I mean I wish you could just take the kids seriously once again into office and Uncle did expect him to yeah he's always been the guy that if anybody says anything about him he talked mad s*** about that person wonders never lied to you or respect all of that but it's just like in times like this one is required some empathy and say I feel for the people that are dying not give me credit I come over it so I feel like so what I'm saying is I feel like having Joe come up there and play those notes it feels like he will everyone just all of a sudden overnight goes Joe Biden's our guy it felt like everyone together but what is going to be like after a year in office dealing with International Politics the economy the environment for all these different things people how quickly who's going to be the vice president Elizabeth Warren who's going to put in there the country or would it be a good thing for the country because it's the best person for the job both both best person for the best person for the job I feel could be a woman of color in the Best Western Plus country could also be a woman of God because a lot of policies kind of stop before Consulting the people of color in a woman of color can see what we're leaving out this group male of color who's better qualified for the job I don't but that's not my point what is what are the qualifications for this job is is what I just said there's no test you have to take is just a popularity contest remember she just she just did a whole thing about something on Netflix and she was like we aren't even on Ellen's that we just like it was like yeah you probably should I think I'm not the right person to be talking about this but I feel like you know what they say Stacey Abrams is in the running and I don't think he'd be a bad choice but why she just puts things in context and she is very smart very sharp and she is not thrown like she would be extremely qualified she could be president she was the first lady so she's accustomed to the public eye she's accustomed to speaking publicly and that's why they say Joe Biden was the best bet because Joe Biden so Pennsylvania it was a is a swing state and Joe Biden is the only person out of the democratic nominees who did not say he was against fracking he was like you can't you can't be again you can't you can't do it all at once and then they have to have the clip of the fracking protesters at CoCo for somebody else man and he also supports he has an in with you know the coal miners and the fracking industry just like you know Trump so when it comes to Electoral College votes Trump doesn't knows he can't beat them Sy hence the whole Ukrainian get some dirt on them just announced something's happening. I think that was kind of like The Narrative of that and know when it comes to electoral votes that whole Midwest game that whole Michigan Michigan to buy in his right there and that's what I'm saying like them yes man oh no I don't know but what's going to happen once people start hearing him talk on the campaign Trail but I don't know I don't know how I don't know how brilliant or a ticket at Trump is like I don't know I think I think everyone it's a matter of being able to control crowds and have these exciting rallies he does Arenas dude he does sold out Arenas and he kills you want a woman of color to be the vice president wife and I would love that I would love for I'm not saying I would love for things to feel like that I want to say back to normal but I would just love to feel like when the president speaking with it what I'm talking about is his ability to excited base in the ability to get people behind him he's a unprecedented ability and depending upon how he handles this coronavirus crisis they could swing left or right it really depends entirely upon who Biden pics because remember when George W was president is really was like President Dick Cheney doing everyday and Cheney was consistently in the bunker he was in the bunker for like weeks of time they were saying he's an update demon told us he was in a bunker but just in case anything happens like why isn't Bush and government will you have a guy who was the former CEO of Halliburton company that countries after we blow them up getting no-bid contract to rebuild a country that we blew up while he's making the decisions to blow up his country powerful speakers someone who apparently and if they pick someone and I'm sure the groom and someone right now who you get excited about yuto okay this person this person could step if Biden lost or find lost it right or find died which is also possible bro there's a there's a photo of him that was on the New York Times yesterday we can see you like where they gave him the f****** the face is that like you know and just just just how the government works well what the what was it the pandemic agency was closed down in my pantry what's the his lawyers fight what can I do what can I do Shore what can I do what can I do and he just goes you know then he takes his stance based on what he is known he's no he's going to be protected legally and he doesn't equate that he's present of all of us you know I mean it so I just feel like that's what's missing and he is incapable of doing it I know when Prince had the Mike Pence was getting popular at 8 at Trump music you want to talk about advice but I don't know what that guy's voice sounds like somebody so emotional right like nnnn I feel like Trump's a businessman so he he's not approaching this if any emotion and it's a good thing that he did was blocked travel from China that's a good thing that probably saved a lot a lot of people saying you're crazy for doing that but so what do you mean you actually didn't I don't know I just heard that's why I'm saying that I was saying conflicting with Mikey block travel because of diplomatic reasons to go out and go to Chinatown with no worries bullshittin the way out of this while she was blaming the present it look everybody got this wrong everybody got it wrong everybody did fournette 30,000 people of travel from China to u.s. Sister coronavirus surfaced the coronavirus surfaced in this is just a this I think this is just an article about yeah I know but this is an article about when the coronavirus surface which was in January that's just letting people know how I made it over to America that's not how many people came to America this is since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak on New Year's Eve in two months after the president impose restrictions arrived in January at airports in Los Angeles San Francisco New York Chicago Newark and Detroit all places fuk by Coronavirus what kind of restrictions were they the bulk of The Travelers who were of multiple nationalities arrived in January at airports in Los Angeles San Francisco New York Chicago Newark and Detroit all places fuk by Coronavirus

see if you can find this conversation Jamie that they're in it it says they're joking but it also has a question it says who is a correspondent for Fox and then who is the other guy that got worse with New York Times play what it says cuz John let me explain hear John Roberts comes in and it's going to play an ad before this Jamie to kill the volume John Roberts comes in and when he comes in he's not wearing a mask and he tells the other gentleman you can take the mask off and he tells them about this La study go ahead play it there UFC 221 so anyway they have done some trial vaccines there are some vaccines that are in trial there's a woman in Seattle she was the first person to get tested and I sent this stuff to Matt Staggs earlier today and he said something to me there there have been several different there 70 coronavirus vaccines right now they're under development with 3 in human trials so they're there have been some things going on right now and the first person treated with the coronavirus is in Seattle there's an article about that it's hard to tell people like if you listen to comics and even took some of the s*** that we say babies are we say ridiculous should all the time and we get used to it right maybe they say ridiculous it to I don't so maybe maybe is correct I believe that it's way less deadly than they thought it was but they had to prepare for something that they thought was going to be real deadly cuz his real deadly in Italy but the question is like this question why is it so deadly in Italy is it because they're older people is because they smoke why is it so deadly New York City like is it because they're stacked on top of each other is it prices of real deadly in Italy but the question is like this question why is it so deadly in Italy is it because they're older people is because they smoke why is it so deadly New York City like is it because they're stacked on top of each other is it

you seen all the s*** that point to the fact that this came from a lab viruses there are a ton there's a ton of of scientists that are pointing to that just one French virologist Gmail send you this there's a French virologist who identified HIV and this French virologist was looking at this disease and it's like this is not a disease that came from nature know that this is a disease that came from the lab on Netflix the series on Netflix that takes place in China that like two or three years ago they called the coronavirus in Eli played the thing really yeah there's like episode 13 season 3 or something like that of the show Jesus Christ than they knew this stuff was happening while people knew that it was always a possibility TV industry like it feels like everything is becoming YouTube you know. I mean like all the time or I'll just I'll send you this right now Jamie hold on a second Bill Maher has some great f****** rants I mean these are tweeted twice to him that where I said Bravo yet are you playing it you know he's he's pushing all the buttons you know he's he's doing, he's doing like real edgy comedy while he's pointing out how crazy this all is I appreciate him right now is so sad guy who's on the left that I really I really like the fact that he doesn't give in to all the craziness he doesn't get given to the the lunacy of of left-wing policies he still he still like rational about it all although clearly left-wing bias he still rational goes with comedy but it was well yeah I want some I don't know man I like him a lot and I watch you like a bunch, I want to know cuz I watched some of his stuff and I feel like it's two things you should have me on this show basically cuz he's always talking about kids or he would be talking about he did his whole rant about why can't we call it the China disease and stuff and I was listening to a chinese-american on on The Daily talking about her experience of a feeling like being an Asian-American he was always like a probationary experience as long as I did the right thing and stay out the way people left me alone but when this came up just for going out why people like you f****** Chinese detective you know and and it's kind of like so it is it's me I love watching them because it's because it's also these blind spots that he just his whole rant was really about stop these wet markets you can do it you didn't have to do these but here the other like you know SARS or murderers are two middle eastern respiratory did make that point he was the head of China you know he would say that and then the Chinese guy was saying hey this is the whole world's problems whole world pandemic but yeah kind of but it did come from a f****** if it did if it did come from a lab you know we should call the lab-created Wuhan virus how do we know that this guy's correct it says analysis indicates the virus has a natural origin it was not engineered the so-called unique protein sequences her since found the 2019 coronavirus can be found in many of the organizing not just HIV but that doesn't mean it's organic or natural in origin I think that we are right now in this. Of conflicting information and you going to get it bouncing back and forth from con but I've read multiple sources that seem and end from respected scientist to seem to indicate that there's a distinct possibility that came from that lab one of things they're saying is the actual bats that they sequence The genome when it when it when they found the genetics for this virus the bats that tested you know that we're this originated from where the same exact they're from the same exact locations the bats are they do research on in this lab and Elizabeth form I mean it's not it's not outside the realm of possibility we're in the Wheelhouse what they're obviously I'm a moron I don't know s*** about viruses but when China says all definitely wet Market nothing to see here yeah well the web markets are f****** gross you know it is but that's also a sad thing about you trying to feed a billion people and you feeding them Wildlife a lot of what they're eating as Wildlife they're so cool it's like squirrels in

never been in a time where literally nobody knows I have a string of text messages from Alex Jones yeah I like that will change your opinion if you if you smoke enough weed and you don't smoke a lot of weed for a very long time but we use when I discovered Alex Jones you love that Buckcherry song oh yeah it's great I mean don't do it if you're a problem Alex left I haven't even gotten to them cuz I got the real change my phone number he's convinced that it's a weaponized virus that leak from a lab well there's a lot of people there saying that in bouhan obviously they have that lab write whether it's a bio Defensor bio research laboratory something there something is there something in Wuhan where the disease is somebody said there were people sat back door selling the animals that they were experimenting on to wet mark like if you are broke and you were guard at the Wu Han lab you like hey I'm just telling bats and dogs for extra money and he's sold maybe one of the wrong ones and now we have this issue Legends of the virus in New York City it comes directly from Europe apparently they can tell that interesting somehow positive everywhere at your car that you're positive to get into Applebee's and how are you going to help me what's what how are you going to help me Magneto's helmet they make nice shirts underneath keep my lower back my mid body warm so if I generate torque got to throw a kick. So I'm not going to push my back so my backspace you should never take anybody around to a man's Anatomy that's what's weird that you're getting older but when I saw you when I see I see all of you you look healthy look healthy and your band in a nutshell Manson believed that there was going to be a race war and he wanted to incite this race war because he had convinced his followers that through messages he received from the Beatles White Album from there lyrics from Biblical Old Testament prophecies that he had been told that he was going to be the savior of the world and one race war started he would hide his family in a bottomless pit in the desert and when the race war ended with the blacks winning the blacks would be frame for 4 murders they would the Manson family would emerge and repopulate the planet with their perfect opt Offspring and dominate the blacks ranch with where they lived in 68 and 69 that Manson would discuss but whether or not it was the motive for the murders is I raised serious questions about that in the book mansard would discuss it in that way that there was going to be a race war and that they would emerge and then their offspring yeah yeah except for the fact that I was questioned so the way Julio C was able to convicted Manson Manson wasn't at the Tate house when the murder he hadn't the official story dispatched Susan Atkins Patricia krenwinkel Leslie Kasabian and tex Watson to the house the former House of Terry Melcher they didn't know who live there but just to kill everybody and has mansinthe allegedly said leave something witchy he wanted it to look like blacks had killed these all in it was they were wealthy beautiful whites and he wanted to night the race war because of the Panthers got blame for these motors then the police will crack down and then they Revolt the revolution would happen they would be it would spread across the whole world and then when it was over and the blacks had prevailed they were too dumb Manson believed to be able to run the well that's when he will come out with his followers of their hole in the desert and take over the planet now Julio C said in interview that I didn't have until after he and I stopped speaking which is when he started threatening me with lawsuits and other things in the in the. 2006-7 I discovered two or three interviews he gave in the early 70s where he was asked if he believed that Manson really believe this craziness and we can go see said I don't think Charlie believe he got his followers to but he never believed in that he was too smart he was a con man Joe I don't want to feel like I'm CVS or anything right now but I want to stay we all know when it comes to come around and there's certain things that go before you know if you have a Corona or you kind of feel it your sense of smell and black ice you know I don't know I wouldn't lie to you know you don't know about the black ice air freshener is I don't think so do you know what it is you don't know okay you're going to is there a Cadillac you never had a ride with Snoop Dogg and Hip-Hop dudes right having your car if you want to get some p**** back in the day this is Donna Ross can the right and I want I want one of my Whitney Whitney Cummings has one Angela he had one they'll check it out tell me what you think so you know what that let me smell like you burn that can smell it in the test no check it out tell me what you think Jamie so you know what that let me smell it smells so that's another thing this is this helps you doing the corona like you burn that candle in the mini don't smell it n***** go get the test

there's going to be a comedy club that says f*** it was get opening somebody do it do it do it say The other clubs not responsible if you get sick tell people to get tested tell him to get tested when it's available when testing is readily available and treatments Reddit available I think only then are we going to relax yeah questions like what do you how do you tell people that you don't have it like if you go to a bar are they going to you going to submit to have an app that's prop heard that there may be some type I heard in Wuhan whatever they have some type of system where it is an app where I guess you register and you could scan and seat I know that has to be in development I was just talk to somebody about it but I think that that technology exists Willie D from the Geto Boys go to his Instagram and he's got a post where this company that's sticking a microchip in these people's arms they hired a f****** professional tattooist in piercer professional piercers what could they will have to come in before you to get what the f*** imagine if your company tells you that I know I know you don't want to bring Keys you know if I bring Keys everywhere I just can't give you a little microchip I want to make sure you show up for work on time enough to punch in anymore you're all set you literally like this video is real right and I got RFID shuts their hands those are probably people to know that anything they probably know that anything that the government wants to find out about you they can find out whenever they want get this when Patrick McMullan wants a diet dr. pepper while he's at work he paid believe with a wave of his hand but it will definitely don't carry credit cards anymore that's too hard to do there's a microchipping your pet with a wave your hand I think LaGuardia one of the airports in New York has got the experimental thing going where they have in one of the terminals a place we can go shop you just swipe your credit card when you walk in and usually with whatever you got and they charge you like like those Amazon stores the same technology I guess Amazon's licensing it out that makes sense it's still a credit card though like it's not you have as long as you can leave it at home if you can't leave at home this is what's so crazy about that how hard is it you lazy b**** you can't pull your f****** credit card out you were you willing to let them put a microchip in there so you can get a diet dr. Pepper with a hand move at his office he's one of dozens of employees who've been doing likewise for a year now that's very funny imagine that's how you give each other money like that stop app you can touch of Three Square Market a technology company to provide self-service mini-markets to hospitals Hotels & Company break rooms last August he became one of roughly fifty employees at its headquarters in River Falls Wisconsin would volunteer to have a chip injected into their hand f****** yikes what I saw was getting into his forearm I was it must be a different color so this is what scary is this going to be the new Norm like what if you get fired by these people when you get hired by Amazon do you have to put in one of their chips does it take out your old chip do they sell the chip to the company we've been when you leave give me my ship back but that doesn't that does not surprise me in the least it doesn't surprise me but it alarms me at alarm see the people are so interested in having someone put a chip in their body but we can company that tells you have to do it for, tells you have to do that f*** that company but I know it's but those are people that feel the need they need to feel the need of being a part of new technology I want it if that's the hot s*** m************ going to have it this was 2014 since microchips will be implanted into healthy people sooner than you think it's going to happen that's going to happen Alzheimer's you know what I'm saying they're going to find a smart read if somebody is on abducted and you'll I'm saying it's like it's weird to think about it but then if you really think about it it's it's going to be weird but it's still not there's going to be plenty of reasons why tell me where is Zone implant with a computer virus one that could pass on to other computer systems if the building's networker program to read his chip as gas all Breeze around the workplace spreading the virus and corrupting computer systems certain areas of the building became inaccessible to his colleagues Jesus Christ that's how that's how Wars going to be for Joe yo motherfuker give a f*** if you can fight it was like this who can hack this s*** that's where the worst them is not going to be the physical s*** is going to be like you got one motherfuking the room that could crash some s*** like that you know what that f****** do that everybody

I knew I was right I knew I was like what the f*** he do in Camarillo podcast I never looked at work and work it says hold on it says the Donnell Rawlings show on one side what is that the other side I do this right so I start going Tuesday I mean I need a bird I got the motherfuking sunroof and put it on my head just for fun he thought it would be funny and I showed him this podcast on the other day and he got excited about it but the thing I like about me having it smells like him so it's like a little souvenir Joe I don't want to feel like I'm CVS or anything right now but we all know when it comes to certain things that go before you know if you have Corona or you kind of feel it your sense of smell came up with a one-of-a-kind this isn't a specific to me it's the Donna Rowland show okay now I'm not familiar with a smell called Black Ice black ice Dino black I said no Royal Pine air freshener right your car like you've not been into a Cadillac a black a black owned Cadillac you never had a ride with Snoop Dogg in any of the hip-hop dudes write a dog if you want to get some p**** back in the day is the black lives matter of air freshener joke it is hilarious it's like a tree made out of so you know what that let me smell it smells so that's another thing this is a this helps you doing Corona like you burn that counted many don't smell it n***** go get the test but more importantly ingredients oils going from ashy to classy breathe in the memories of cold air hitting your skin on a Winter's day shades of your skin getting a sheer and a sheer as the brisk wind hit your arms and ankles capture the energy of a good lotion without having it black ass eliminate the smell of torque and replaces it with his exotic smells I don't know what that is Elon Jasmine and Amber Burgers ambergris from a well I knew you don't get excited to see what I thought about it was sperm from a whale that they mine for it right but come to find out it wasn't I thought it was I was like oh s*** my candle got a weld nut right but it's not that it's the byproduct of an actual sperm whale you know when the snow I needed to know more about who is jerking the well testicles it's like some form of testosterone or something or some form of stimulant sperm is feels like it's supposed to give you super super strength or something silly ambergris how to tell if you struck gold with the whale vomit or stumbled upon sewage oh so sometimes they find it like floating around yeah be up to $71,000 for a 1.57 kg lump that's like 3 3 and 1/2 pounds right time I get saliva what is the whale what what is it the whale sperm whale it's not whale sperm is a product of the sperm whale only a sperm whale makes the compound responsible for ambergris Allure it's called ambreen and different organisms bile synthesized different compounds such as caffeine made by Coco coffee or tea plants ambreen is made by sperm whales only to glue together squid beaks what the f*** died of sperm whales but the beaks can't be digested they need to be passed out without causing injury they do this by coating them with an brain so the sperm whale creates is amazing s*** just to dissolve beaks of squids any do this by coating them with an brain so the sperm whale creates is amazing s*** just to dissolve beaks of squids

just saw this yesterday don't know why I was coming around by this is Bo Jackson from somebody else flat-footed from The Outfield I just had to say something, but it says next one official Bo Jackson was one of the all-time his arm is so crazy I literally just ran up the wall play two sports world class at both Sports it wasn't until the football injury that he had hip replacement and that, anything and everything to certain do is just have the the perfect build the perfect you can barely walk now he'll still f*** you up Hershel Walking but he was f****** people up in Strike Force when he was in his late forties I was thinking Earl Campbell that's the one is like really really like that was almost until he was 50 who's fighting in Strikeforce older athlete already showing blank looks like he's f****** world-class ripped full six pack super Jack and he defeated in MMA and the way he would beat these guys was just first of all he had a long martial arts background disciplined work ethic that like his body is still in pristine shape in his late forties. I don't know if he's taking hormones or anything he wrote the way this guy looked in his forties in the wave an ancient over weightlifting that was like his big thing was that he did mostly calisthenics I had no idea that he ever did that dude Herschel Walker was elf martial arts fighter I wouldn't say look like the best in the world but he was professional and he even went to one of the best gyms in the world who went to AKA in San Jose Mike swick train there I mean Outfield come on the f*** looks like that in the late forties and does professional cage fighting after a long career in the NFL

I was talking with my buddies and I've been having a really good time with my son making stuff he said man I know this may sound crazy but just come on and s*** he said you and your son to look back one day you can be like a dad remember when we made that I'm slingshot doing it when the coronavirus out like you know he's going to be there all type of ways yeah your building memories that you wouldn't have ordinarily bill yep as long as you're alive and as long as you're healthy it's just it's I think the positive side of this you can always look at the negative side but the positive side is look how many people are complying look how many people are doing the right thing a lot of people and they're doing the right thing cuz they care about their loved ones and hopefully they care about your loved ones and people aren't complaining as much people not there like I mean some people are hurting financially a lot of people losing their businesses they're hurting but the amount stribild with the amount that you see in the streets as far as like riots and protests nonexistent people are understanding we're all f***** this is like we didn't see it coming we all got a deal I just hope this make people realize that all that pull them up by their bootstraps stuff like people love to think that that's how people should be you know you should just pull yourself up by your bootstraps go out there and f****** make something for yourself that's all true you definitely should go out there and try to accomplish some goals there's going to be times in our lives as a community with some s*** goes down it's not anybody's fault but they need help and that's when we have to evaluate what our taxes go to cuz my taxes don't go to some form of excellent very accessible Healthcare and making that more widespread then you're basically saying you don't really care about People's Health and their survival as much as you care about me now we're going to commit to that kind of a culture after something like this when we're insane we're not learning anything we should learn something from this and we can learn from this is like health-wise we're not prepared whether it's through Hospital build itu's ventilators social distancing protocol for the f*** it was we weren't prepared for something like this but now that we are we should all go hey yeah you know what man no one should not have the money to pay for treatment for this Noah what are we do Joe what are we change the way we look at our services it sounds like we got to thinking. He's got to go to that got to go to that but that's very important for everybody when people get sick it spreads to all of us now we also we don't want ever to know anyone that you love is going to die because they can't get Healthcare that's available for people that have money that stop that just stop with fire department Fire Department EMS fires on fire how to help Healthcare we should be we what is the what is the what is Covered California what the f*** is that all about that I don't know man I don't mean if you think about how much money gets spent on things right with her it's computers whether it's cars whether it's houses whether it's with his it seems that people by how much of a percentage of that if you could escalate just a little bit and all that money goes into just Healthcare not just taxes worth no one's accountable you don't know where the f*** is going to go everybody's dollar cost $2.05 for most things you buy up to a certain point all that money go straight to healthcare wouldn't you be willing to pay instead of a dollar a dollar five or something if you knew that $0.05 going to go towards Healthcare Ben billions and millions I mean after while it seems like it would be better for everybody and it would be better for us to not worry about what happens if you get sick cuz you don't know if you can deal with pay for it sometimes people get hit with crazy medical bills after the unexpected injury worried about what happens if you get sick cuz you don't know if you can be able to pay for it sometimes people get hit with crazy medical bills after you do an unexpected injury

but a lot of hockey players have no f****** teeth but that's a badge of honor for hockey players they don't get they got enough that they like f*** that s*** to take them out show you and Canada you said he's a millionaire that have you ever seen the photograph for that old school hockey player who has all these scars all over his face on his face over his career a famous photograph and you could see these it mean it looks like he's just been in a f****** box cutter fight his whole face is really butchered yeah cuz all they did was fully this guy's face yeah that's it and what was it just take it in the mug son imagine a guy slapstick in one of those f****** hard-ass pucks how fast can they make those things go now they can make him go well over a hundred hundred 2340 I think oh my god really long drive with a golf club do you know I'm talking about this is Jack dude this is really jacked who hits us. He's got this crazy step through Happy Madison or Happy Gilmore type stroke to it and he makes the ball out door ranges it flies over the bacnet the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life he holds maybe he looks like he looks like he looks like a pro baseball player but he holds the long-distance world record for for a golf ball driver drove at the farthest so he holds the record who is the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life there's a lot of things like that stand-up is a good example there's a lot of things like that we see it on TV light does looks good but if you're there sport where you can fight like look you do practice hitting the Park yeah okay we'll practice beating the f*** out of people they never like f*** you ever see you tomorrow is like Popeye got it there's some videos of dudes getting Flat Line though it's different than it was back in the day is back in the day they were tough guys who knew how to skate and could maybe fight a little bit until they've grabbed each other their jackets or their clothes and they be punching each other right hand reduce swelling out of he backed up like this to right there let it pass in the face well five hours Chapman Dam how do you hit that is connected with that s*** of when you watch a real amazing picture this is crazy body torque going all over this way this so much in that man just like this so much mechanical movement and leverage in your legs and important Andy Johnson rocket Houston tennis shut up he was excited he I don't know what his people were excited cuz all of the news I already knew he hit the bird right in mid-flight in the bird exploded at the end for that birdie black how the f*** look at the world has a plan he was your plan birdie crazy ceremony level dead as f*** imagine that mean throwing a hundred miles an hour right or 90s the part where Randy Johnson look at the look at the mechanics of how he throws his body into that pit you step off this so much like a little coordinated movement distance that anybody else you know so yeah it's a good way to look at it such a huge factor in some sports

World covered with humans everybody's got it it's on every in every continent except Antarctica in our cases that's wild about human contact me think about how will a Disease Control quickly spread from China just all over the whole world and shut everything down they said that if China was honest about it I don't know if this is true but this is what I was reading in more than one different story that China could have stopped 95% of the spread if they were just honest about and I know and they say if Donald Trump was honest about it they could have said in mandates for social distancing and everything a little earlier I think a lot of people are real skeptical unfortunately why do people real skeptical and no one no one anticipated it happen like this they were giving him a hard time when he was saying that they should stop travel from China people calling him racist now everybody stop travel from everywhere but I want a lot of people it's the reason why I don't want to f*** with this m*********** the things get cloudy right because like what is the thing the thing is he wants to stop travel from this place because of diseases in this place and then the reaction is well that's racist to say and we should be more sensitive and this is not get connected and disconnected with a candle that was like yeah I f****** rooted for him like right like him and people have that like mine which are mostly business people they don't fuk with emotions they only f*** with results it's like I feel sorry that you think about I bet I don't care about none of that that's not how I work but my point if you got to give the guy a hard time about not reacting enough to certain things you also got to give them props for shutting down traffic to place is Earl but nobody wants to do that cuz it ain't weird because the people that don't want to do that Joe is the ones that have caught up in the emotion the ideology he's like a loyal Trump supporter you. May know he's a he's a he's a he's a support Trump but I've heard him say I don't vote for policies I vote for policy and I'll give you an example for this is weird because no one has ever experienced it before you like like what people don't like I listen to watch both Outlets Fox and CNN that's confusing isn't it it's just really been seeing it just where y'all sitting in his life a nagging girlfriend is light all b**** shut the f****** Fox be like this with it like you listen to if you listen to Too Much CNN bro you don't even know what the f*** is going on with nothing other than how much you hate this motherfuking used to be that way I used to be priest it's something like when I started the point of making it but when I listen what I listen to both cuz you want to get both perspectives if you care really care you left listening both but at least here okay this is what our plans are this is what we want to do this is what the plans are this is what the President says he's going to do this with the government wants to do you go on the other side all you hear is like 1,000 people you don't have no solution to the problem is Joe people get f***** up on how they want your solution convey to them it's like can you give it to me Slow Joe can you have vaseline with it or are you going to be rough with me and they can't take a motherfuking you know how close I was to put the make America great again hat whenever Spotify yo people I'm a small-business you know I'm a vet I'm a veteran I serve United States Air Force I did my time zone to say how good of a but I committed four years of my life to this country you know I'm saying Bears it is not about to take away the s*** about but the way he made me feel and then he said that he's such a song so let's let's take away that in my situation is all the people that are on a small business and my vet in the things that he do for those type of people it's easy for me to say I'm I could justify it was all I'm thinking about is money and paper I can just because of that people the disconnection right now with this election I felt is that every body has been used that everybody stinks is on emotions it's all on how I feel or I like this guy like that guy like this guy whatever you know this is like I was going to come into His election just beat the s*** out of anybody the economy was doing well Joe what are you going to fight this m*********** you don't have no more fighting style s*** out of anybody the economy was doing well and hold my whole thing was with anybody get upset Joe what are you going to fight this m*********** with this time you don't have no more fighting styles yeah well being pissed

call Lean on Me lean song that song is the background theme for my roasting of Charlamagne Tha God you're I just want to say I have favs off of this m*********** Joe yo-yo times I pray for him you brought it up I didn't bring it up earlier I've known this crew for some years Joe Angela Yee go back 20 years DJ Envy go back 15 weeks to do Hot 97 together Charlemagne we worked at MTV's Geico together right it's all love each other right and then I should go up there but there's so much cuz I work at Carolines on Broadway you know that's where you promote it so I can update it they started this thing they want to play pranks on me right like all we got to let you know when Frank was when he comes in no one laughs at his jokes all right right this way it's like this one of them is like this when it comes in don't laugh at his jokes right so I'll go in and I ain't trying to be funny laughing at a time like John think like this I'm like I noticed I know the fixes on Jo-Jo I know you were suspicious Joe something was wrong have you ever seen me in a room and nobody's laughing I can't say that no okay that's pretty much everywhere I go I'm just being honest though marketeer everybody up in his room like I don't hit women but you hit you with something right and there's like we told him not to laugh, okay little corny joke like I know we're friends but at the same time I do have a resume I have done stuff I'll continue to do stuff as much as they want to be the reality of it is disrespectful disrespectful way like anything you've tried to call me not funny you see me stand up 6500 people Radio City Music Hall Charlemagne you said out of your voice that Donnell I went to see Radio City Music Hall Chris Rock Dave Chappelle down there before that night he said I love all of them and I ain't taking nothing to say but Darnell that night was on you saw that Niger you trying to say you corny which is allergic word to a black comedian you call me like know you trying to give the impression that I'm calling in that funny it's just a waste of time and it don't make sense so now that we get a little joke stuff off now give me a real interview but I mean it's only thing I say give me a real interview do you feel like this you ever talk to him off the air he has reason why won't stop because he won't stop right so what I have to do is continue to destroy them on the level that I need to destroy human the means I'm ruthless I've seen them and people are like I thought it was inside fun joke though I didn't know it was so serious serious and it's funny Joe I've said to him you know why I said I know why you think you're a sex symbol and you look good I said because I was in South Carolina this weekend right and I said you are the best looking person in stop Gladys you should feel like a king we f*** with each other like that but also know his radio background I'll never take this away from this is where we different His Radio background is coming from South Carolina you know how it is getting ready up break going from Mark like South Carolina to New York is the number one radio Market. You go from that from a PA or entering whatever entry level position where you go from that and you build and you grinding your country motherfuker you a country motherfuker and you and now you're Charlamagne Tha God he works hard I hate on that you're doing it you do a really good job at you you're doing late-night and all that type of s*** I respect that but stop with the same Clan you can't clown me you can't call me I'm not a you you can't tell me you giving people answers for Christmas presents giving people answers no you doing man just busy doing other stuff oh yeah we went through this again thanks Jamie that's nice you open the box and you open it and then as Jamie gave you this as a gift okay here we go let's see what is this how long for a little bit CC do you know that that's what they do you really appreciate it no one likes it like that anyway oh my God they get paid to get like moles of their body and then do so you're trying to say Charlamagne is a pornstar that's how they make those the only reason why there's a hole they put it there they put a place we can stick something in is that that's not what you gift your man you've got a family job know he's got a family in a dope Sundays but like he's a great father family now you going to understand and I understand the point I'm making is that I know that's your thing the booty subliminal you guys have fun you know like you are y'all have fun doing it I'm not of that place or space you not into fingering rubber butts and I don't know people on camera I went to The Breakfast Club with a bag full of the motherfukers and everytime he says I'm driving like that they had clipped up on his ass I was using windage you know it windage is on the gun right radio show it was about to go down by like the f*** out of here Angela Yee that's my girl G stayed Angela Yee said they said you going Angeles like Namaste they left the room me and Anjali in it now the interview I kind of wanted them to give me the series interview or whatever me and Angela click right into the Sears interview the motherfukers best I can I keep on f****** with me Joe you know I'm sensitive Joe you know I'm sensitive Joe on your face I have Arsenal should Sun hold on beauty Schumer be making these joints look hold on hold on bearded humor yeah that's my guy look at these headlines Beauty human he's so dope looking at you did you know this story jussie Smollett allegedly had sex with his attacker at Chicago bath house and then it's him and it's Jessie and who else terrible Photoshop. You got the message that's the type of venom out continue he's been rethinking that's funny he does how could you know anything about Everywhere I Go

stories crazy it's crazy and I think it's also a really important part of human history imagine if the Whistleblower had not come forward and we didn't know about MK Ultra and and then all those documents didn't get but they didn't find a warehouse for the documents fall back on you know we signing I was with the agency if we talk to you without permission and they're not going to give us permission we could go to prison imagine what life must have been like for them knowing that this is what they were doing people that such a strange way to also these people are agents for the federal government and what kind of precedent does this establishment most of the people doing the research were subcontracted researchers at medical personnel at prisons and in the case of Jolly West he was first in the Air Force and then he was in university settings and jolly was once it got to University of Oklahoma he was experimenting on patients and in one of his letters to God leave asking for more funding he's saying working with psychiatric patients actually benefits us because people can't not quoting directly weird behavior wouldn't be noticed by anybody at the hospitals because they're psychiatric patient so these people are getting LSD which is a pretty powerful drug and Other Drugs he was using and he was hypnotizing them and some of it many of his experiments without without their knowledge and their psychiatric patients I mean that it's worse than Nazis your mind is you know the next most important thing besides your soul and they're tampering with it you know one of the jollies take the guy who actually took over the department when jolly and 69 came out to UCLA from Oklahoma said to me cuz I would show them all the documents and he said he always has one of his best friends I think 45 years when West died in 99 he said what he said to me Jolly it doesn't surprise me that he would have done this this is the Jack Ruby stuff which I guess gotten to yet Jolly was Jack Ruby psychiatrist Jesus after Ruby was convicted of shooting and killing Oswald in the spring of 64 before he was going to testify to the Warren Commission he had never told him never testified at his trial about why he he killed Oswald his defense argument was that he had epilepsy and he had had an epileptic fit and shot him and was amnesiac of the of the the shooting yeah so that's right into the narrative like a key well it's gets better so West inserts and shine through his connections to Ruby's new lawyer you were Winston Smith his old other kettle of fish but anyway goes to the Dallas County Jail in thing was April 64 to examine Ruby in preparation for not the Warren Commission testimony when she was giving in a couple months before his next trial cuz he had you got a new or an appeal for a psychiatric review and West who had told Sidney Gottlieb and in these early letters from the 50s that part of his experiments were inducing insanity and a person without their awareness West goes to examine Ruby emerges from the county jail and there's press weight for him and he announces that within the preceding 48 Hours Ruby had had a psychotic break that was a irrevocable couldn't he couldn't return to sanity he had audio and visual hallucinations during the exam he said Ruby hit under a table cuz he thought they were people in the room trying to kill him told Weston he could hear children's screams outside his jail cell as juice children as they were boiled alive and West said he's completely insane that was the day I mean there was no evidence of Ruby being mentally ill prior to West exam West was alone with him in the cell and then treated him for about six months when Ruby finally gave his testimony the Warren Commission so Earl Warren chief justice Warren who was head of the commission down the Dallas with Joe Ford who is Congressman and on the commission and Arlen Specter the young while inspector who was an investigator for the Warren Commission to eventually came up with the magic bullet theory he called it the Magic Bullet anyway on the three of them Ruby Underoath and Ruby battle was incoherent grabbed on inspector who was like him. cities that don't you know that killing Jews and and that they've killed my brother and cut off his legs I hear them being tortured outside my other good news anyting West that was one of his objectives and his uncal to research was to make people into sinsanity without a person's awareness was there any contact with Jack Ruby before he killed I won't again that was one of the things I can't tell you how hard give me Western movie anyone anyone could have done something to get out to kill to organized crime and federal he was part of which later emerged the anti-castro Cubans effort to overthrow Fidel Castro which was Ron it was Operation Mongoose by the CIA with an illegal assassination program Ruby tonight in the book I found out that we can through West papers that I got access to Ruby admitted never that he stalked and killed Oswald on the orders of anyone but that he was working with these people who were suspected of being involved in the assassination if there was a conspiracy and he had never admitted that to anyone it's only an in West file and West with how that the the the primary theory of who was responsible if there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy and one of the thoughts was that it had to do with some sort of us CIA operation to overthrow Castro yeah well there was that by John F Kennedy was second-in-command to judge Warren on the commission Richard Helms who was actually Jolly West employer for MKUltra was the liaison between the CIA and the commission so Helms new that Ruby who they call their most important witness in their investigation the Warren Commission investigation because he was the one who silenced the killer there could be no trial for Oswald cuz he was dead so they try to learn everything they could about Ruby to see if he had had any meetings with Oswald prior if he had connections Beyond The Superficial ones to organized crime was there something deeper the commission which I believe was you know a joke from the beginning it was set to determine mean they said in the beginning their objective was to prove that Oswald acted alone they came up with that conclusion but after the first Intelligence Center in what is hearings in the in the early 70s that exposed MKUltra chaos cointelpro primarily that the Frank Church hearings are they found out that fellows and Helms and others had lied about the cia's involvement with Oswald and and with their own agents who have had these peripheral will not their peripheral not but definitely encounters with Oswald they withheld all that so the house voted to have they call the house select committee on assassinations that began in 77 and 78 they released a report which they concluded that was all a probable conspiracy to kill Kennedy that Oswald didn't act alone and you know it's there's lots of books about that and in their findings and then later the to the head of the committee Robert Blakely wrote a book where he said that that Ruby had acted on behalf of The Conspiracy to silence Oswald that he had stalked him premeditated the murder and that the whole thing was part of keeping the secret so was West apart of that and you know again I can't prove it I wanted to find out if what I said had any encounter or any interaction with Ruby prior to Ruby committing the murder couldn't find that and that's the kind of thing that maybe no evidence maybe it happened but there's no evidence but I wasn't going to put it in the book and I exhausted every resource I had you know cuz that that one is always been so puzzling for me cuz here's this guy that's not connected to the murder allegedly and then steps forward and shoots Oswald in front of everybody in himself mean like there's no doubt about it and you're the guy who did it go to jail forever report which was fabricated by his first lawyer who admitted this years and years later he told Ruby to say he did it to spare Jackie Kennedy from having to come to Dallas for a trial of Oswald that was made up and then Melvin Bell I was assigned to the case was I mean really fired like three lawyers in the first couple weeks and I took over and took it to trial and his argument was that he had had an epileptic fit and didn't know what he was doing when he was grabbed by the cops after he shot Oswald he said hey I'm Jack Ruby what what am I doing here what are you doing to me don't you know who I am cuz he knew all the cops my argument of my book is this important my most important finding is that a CIA contracted agent or researcher for mind control became the most important witness to the Warren Commission he came this is doctor right before he testified and told his story I go that should have been disclosed obviously to the commission but they're not going to say it cuz it's a secret program and then he goes crazy crazy by a couple of people who were nobody on the commission would talk to me that was alive when I started pursuing them Joel Ford wouldn't talk to me or I think I mentioned that to you before there's an interesting I approached inspector who was running for re-election this was 2002 and told him I had new information and he had all he had always maintained you know he would he made a lot of money off of his books about Justice and hit in the magic video defending is magic bullet bullet theory he always said if anybody comes to me with new evidence I'll look at it with no open mind so I had sent him a persuasive letter while his people they finally said all right if you have these documents showing this is Doctor Who treated Ruby you know within the 24 hours he lost his mind Specter will look at them and then decide if I'll talk to you fax them to us and at that point that was 2002 I lost a magazine story and I didn't have a book deal so I was operating entirely on my own I said I can't send this stuff to you because it's my Smoking Gun the letters between got leading and why scribing off the experiments so finally Spectre agreed to talk to me on the phone for a few minutes and it was amazing he called me from the senate floor while they were waiting to vote on whether or not they were going to invade Iraq this is 2002 so we were only supposed to talk for a few minutes and when I explained what I had and what it showed West had you know been involved with at the time he treated Ruby he said well if you're not going to send the stuff to me I don't know you know I need to see it and I go well I can't send it to you and he said where you want to meet me cuz I told him I was in Philadelphia visiting my folks and he he was from Philadelphia to he says I'm there in the weekend I'll meet you Saturday I have a squash game at the Wyndham Hotel meet me there squash so we had a meeting set up for like 3 days later and this is something I'm always second-guessing about I made a decision I don't think I got to I don't think I've ever really got paranoid doing this but it's factory been a long-term Senator he was running for re-election and it was the first time in his career but the polls were against him that his opponent was they were predicting that he was going to Spectre was going to lose he had also you know defended this magic bullet theory forever I mean more people knowing for the Kennedy assassination than anything else I thought so if I do meet with him and I show him these documents Maybe diosa me too I thought he's going to go my God I need to be part of their you know exposure cuz if he didn't and walked away from it I thought they were important enough that he would know that that would you know once they were publicized and he had the opportunity to say hey we need to look into this and didn't he was like bass and I thought well maybe he's going to two things he's either going to use it for to get publicity have a press conference and help him in his re-election or he's going to use it to be the hero of it and run with it before I publish the book and then I'll just be a footnote you know to all those cuz he took it so I cancelled the meeting the morning of I called up his press secretary and his cell phone like the three phones I have for my said you have to tell Senator Specter I am so sorry but there's an emergency I've got to go back to Los Angeles actually was scheduled to go the day after on Sunday so it's a lie and I didn't talk to anyone I just left a message and I said I'm so sorry but I obviously I've worked so hard to get this meaning it's embarrassing but I have to go back so I left my parents place to go to the post office cuz I've been there for three months I was actually writing the first version to proposal at their place to get away from my friends and you know all the distractions in LA and I was only going for like 15 minutes ago mom if that press secretary calls I told him I was leaving till tell him that I'm I just went to the airport and I and I apologize so I can't lie to a press secretary I got to go to the Post Office and I come home 15 minutes later she's like this why does it goes I go watch Senator Specter called himself he wanted to know what happened why you changed your mind so I don't know if that was a mistake on my part I think you know 20/20 hindsight I should have done it and taking my chances I did all those what that would have done come up with that whack iron without ya ya ya and the fact that never gets brought up if there were more bullet fragments in Connelly's body then there were missing from that bullet in the fact that anyone who knows anything about guns and if anyone has ever shot a gun as seen with a bullet went on what it looks like wood look at that f****** bullet and think that bullet went through to human beings Siri in the first place is because the guy was hit by a Ricochet on the underpass don't know the whole story behind that I did I tried not to lose myself anymore than I had two in each compartmentalize area I was going to so with the Kennedy assassination I just did a superficial like Manson I was never interested in any thing so called conspiracies yeah I never cared about Kennedy or that's was connected to Ruby and again that was a moment that I was like oh no I mean first it was West in the CIA and then I'm like and Ruby how can I not look at the Kennedy assassination so I kept my focus narrowly just on Ruby Oswald West Spectre I look a little bit of the Magic Bullet and agree with you but I never did a deep dive into a lot of that stuff first it was West in the CIA and then I'm like 10 Ruby how can I not look at the Kennedy assassination so I kept my focus narrowly just on Ruby Oswald West Spectre I look a little bit of the Magic Bullet and agree with you but I never did a deep dive into a lot of that stuff

I would do without Iowa seduce people into the story and get them as I would love to. I was like pretend I'm a guy and you trying to pitch me this book in the beginning of the first years just that the trial that had occurred that have been prosecuted by Vincent bugliosi had a lot of malfeasance in it by the prosecution I was able to document that they planted former prosecutor on the defense team to sabotage the defense I doubt that two or three of the principal Witnesses including Terry Melcher who played a big part in this and will probably talk about that at some point lied on the stand you know supporting themselves and in a murder trial and if you commit perjury in a murder trial you could be convicted of murder I mean you could be sentenced to a motor if you get up at murder sentence to because of that so there was about a thousand of those and none of them happened all at once. surgery during a murder trial you could be sentenced for murder for the same amount of time that someone would get sentence if they murdered somebody are subject to an actual Capital you could be elected you could be sent to the chair wow and the five people who were convicted of murder in the first trial once had I been around and able to prove this in the early 70s Vincent bugliosi and the three people who lied on the stand in a material way you know I'm a very important way they all could have been tried for that perjury and sentenced to the same or given the same sentence of the people who have gotten the Destin I told you that I just got to the 11 chapter of your book right and essentially what I'm getting so far I haven't finished the book what I'm getting so far is there was some sort of a CIA program where they were explain how they did it they they infiltrated these hippie communities and they allow Charles Manson over and over and over again to get out of jail they knew that he was committing all these crimes and instead of an operating careful required for the first year after Manson was released from prison and 19s Rodgers Matthew and he was a criminologist in the Bay Area Manson violated his parole the day that he was released in Los Angeles and this is one of the you think it's a little lie but it's an important lie that been fully OC presented not just a trial but also in his book a trial it's much more serious he change the narrative he said Manson have been given permission to try San Francisco from La when Manson was paroled meth and hadn't been giving that promotion he just showed up there they originally were going to violate them set them right back to prison and someone stepped in and took care of that and let Madison stay in San Francisco and he was assigned to Rodger Smith it took about a year-and-a-half but through a Freedom of Information Act process I got his Federal parole file and those with a kind of seeds of how I found out that Manson has its immunity prosecution for the two years he was out of prison from 67 until the murders occurred in the Summer of 69 who was Smith doing this for who was giving him the instructions to continue to let Manson out and they needed a modern well that's a problem I didn't get the whole file and the file I got had weird actions he would report to the head office and they would give him instructions and then he would violate those instructions and there be no repercussions for him Warframe Manson for instance Manson was arrested in July of 1967 three or four months after you got out of prison when he was under by Christmas supervision for interfering with an officer who was trying to arrest one of his first young followers Ruth Ann moorehouse who was 15 and he was put in jail plead out so he got a 3-day sentence a new probation sentence as well all that was hidden like this not believe she's booked the parole officer Rodger Smith a week later wrote to the head office at Mattson was doing fine and he actually recommended that Manson be allowed to go to Mexico and work in Mexico and the head parole office in the United States census Federal wrote back and they said that's insane he was supposed the job that he was going to do in Mexico was surveying soil for insect insect the size and they had nothing to do with it documents showing the who is hiring Charles Manson to survey soil it was a company and Nevada which disappeared a couple years later it was a b******* company's I believe so yeah 1959 the last time he free man he had violated his parole then he was arrested in Mexico right he was arrested in Mexico and brought over by the federales and and given over to Federal custody for I was a drug violation and then some other stuff so why would his parole officer send them back to this place three months after he been released and how do you supervise somebody who's in another country can I make a summary just for people who like what the f*** is going on right now what you're saying is that Charles Manson was a part of some sort of a program yes and that through this program they were using him and using but with LSD and all the members of the family they were turning them violent and why why do you think they were doing this together so I got to reel it in a little about not saying anything that I have been able to prove what I proven is if he was getting leniency from the federal government and the law enforcement first in San Francisco that year the person who represented the federal government there was his parole officer Rodger Smith Federal parole officer was getting him leniency Rodger was also doing drug research at the Haight-Ashbury free medical clinic which opened in June of 67 Manson during that period turned the Manson that were familiar with today you know the monster the embodiment of evil as been fully OC call them the guru who could control the minds of these followers so he would come into the clinic to see Rogers when he went for two reasons but it was a free clinic it was at the height of the summer of love summer of 67 and he will come in with a women two girls here about five or six followers then and they would walk behind them they wouldn't speak unless he spoke to them the man he issued towards then they would follow and they became very well known around the clinic and they were there principally for Manson to see Rodger for his weekly parole appointments and then the girls were going in for STDs and there was some pregnancies and stuff never getting free treatment that was the summer that the Manson family formed and then they left in late 67 early 68 and migrated down to Los Angeles and became is Killer caught it's crazy how quickly this all happened it's insane in Haight-Ashbury 69 the tate-labianca murders and then the trial and then everything else was basically just sort of a two-bit criminal who would spend most of his life inside the system and had been incarcerated for what half of his life his life when he was released about 8:32 and 67 off Federal institutions to which was interesting even pelillos he pointed that out in his book first of all his mother was a prostitute kind of she would get sent to jail for petty theft or prostitution and she had them off to her parents or other people and by the time he was 10 11 12 years old he was stealing cars committing petty theft and stuff so that he was sent to adult detention centers in schools reform schools are run by the federal government and then when he committed his first crimes as an adult which was again car theft the first crimes require that but when he stole the cars across state lines so then it became a federal offense and he got in prison but with much more serious sentences if it's a federal offense in if it's state and he do these long sentences back-to-back-to-back and then every time he was released he either violated parole and probation and they were actually strict with him in the 50s and early well still 60 when he finally went to prison for 7 years it wasn't until 67 when he came out that all the sudden with hands off and what do you think happened in prison did they find him in prison again I'll go there with you okay which we know was a good possibility as I lay out circumstantial evidence for a case with proof of each circumstance but when you put them all together that's the hardest part is linking them finding the bridges what I do is show what the objectives were either the federal government's case to MKUltra than other programs cointelpro and it and chaos and the enforcement in Los Angeles and San Francisco at the time so MK Ultra began in the in the federal prisons experiments on prisoners famously or notoriously Whitey Bulger I don't know if you heard about this but a few years ago it was revealed that Whitey Bulger had been apart of MK Ultra experimentation the fifties when he was incarcerated and after he was convicted he was claiming that he believed that all of his violence was a product of what it happened to him in prison when he was experimented upon with LSD through these scientists so theoretically Manson was in the pine place where the experiments were occurring in prison before he was released in 67 in federal institutions they couldn't do it in the state of Mo is federal parole file which was an accident never been released from 67 to 69 but I also have the one prior to that from the 50s and the 60s and all the correspondence and he would talk about these doctor's coming in to examine him and he didn't trust them and didn't know what they were doing and this was late 50s and unfortunately he never had the first names for the doctors over to one of them was dr. Hartman I can remember the other one's name that was in Hartman in Los Angeles who was one of the early psychiatrist using LSD and in the 50s Cary Grant was one of his patient so theoretically he could have come out of the program or the experimentation that began there but you know I hate to even I rather all this without showing all the documentation and stuff what was going on where he was and how everything matches up but you see that when you get through chapter 11 okay so far so 1967 he gets out of jail and he how long before he hooks up with this clinic so he got out in March of 67 the clinic open in June of 67 so just a few months it Will Rogers Smith he was a living in Berkeley Manson was and he got his first follower Mary Brunner and then two or three or four more and then Rodger was the one who suggested that he go to the hate to absorb The Vibes he thought Manson my benefit from the love and peace five that were happening in the Summer of Love Smith was his parole officer in 67 that gal Sedalia told me she was his assistant at the clinic at the Haight-Ashbury free medical clinic when he was running his amphetamines study in in 68 she said that Rodger had told her he met Manson when he was doing probation work and Illinois and the early sixties eventually interview Rodger several times and Rodger denied that and when I went back to jail she doxycyc I can't believe he's denying that that was a connection here. That's why I meant was able to leave Los Angeles he was sent to Rodger Smith so Rodger could be his parole officer I was never able to document that Benson had been in Illinois except for 3 days for in 61 or excuse me in 60 when he was brought from Mexico to Texas and then they brought him to Los Angeles to be violated in front of the judge there he did spend free days at Joliet prison where Rodger Smith work but he was there a year or two later know that was one of the one of the many frustrating moments where everything makes sense except for one but one very important whole which was will they weren't there at the same time at least as far as the official record shows so if Smith was a part of these experiments in Smith was also his parole officer and did know him before he did this 10 years before he got out which is when it's speculated that Manson was possibly experimented on and Smith might have been aware of the entire process of it and was supervising him upon his release they would just let him go and give you a little background on Smith is he told me he called himself he goes I was at Rock rib republican from the Midwest and I came out he went to Berkeley to the school of criminology to become a criminologist I think I'm 65 or 66 he was getting his master's and his PhD and his special area of study was in the beginning gangs Collective behavior and violence and then how drugs would make some of these gangs that he had people he was working with infiltrate students infiltrate mention that this isn't an Oakland in the ghettos and in like 6566 on the Panthers were forming then and 6866 he decided to become a federal parole officer while he was still writing his dissertation and he got assigned to something called the San Francisco project which was an experimental program run by the federal government to see how different numbers of parole clients caseloads for parole officer where you know supervision it was about recidivism so if you had the lowest low was 20 clients the largest was like 50 or 60 were you able to supervisor you wouldn't think that 50 or 60 is going to be a lot more difficult but it always wasn't so Smith join that program where he's supposed to be paying much more attention and care to his clients because are the special program called the San Francisco project and in fact you was I mean he was he was seeing Manson more than he was even officially supposed to thinks he's stopping his parole officer was actually removed and he said it was voluntarily so he could focus more on his drugs and violence research at the clinic Manson three or four women followers got arrested in Mendocino they had lured a cup young boys into a house giving them LSD they're advancing it sent them out up to Mendocino to recruit people for the family the three women were four women were arrested one of the Mary Brunner had the first baby with Manson in the group and Rodger Smith and his wife Carol went up to Mendocino and petition the court to take Foster custody of the child until Mary was until her case was resolved so they were the foster parents of Manson's son I mean nothing was irregular about this that actually that case is pretty interesting so Mary Brunner and Susan Atkins two women who actually killed for Manson in 1969 were given they were convicted of contributing to the delinquency of minors illegal drug possession and without a trial a plat out and then there was what they called the sentencing phase where a probation officer is assigned to decide whether or not they should the prison are given probation supervised probation so I got access to their files Brunner's and Atkins and in the file with recommendations to the core by Rodger Smith and his wife saying these are good women they shouldn't go to prison Susan Atkins who you know stab Sharon Tate and is that proven cuz she said it and then we went back and forth and back and forth murder she couldn't do it but this was later on that she did it and then when she testified to the grand jury she said that she didn't do it she held Sharon while text abdur later in prison she said that she did do it then she changed again she go back and forth that she was pretty brutal and probation instead of sentence partially based on Rodger Smith recommendation Rodger Smith identified himself as a form of parole officer you know what this expertise and he said he had known both of them for two years and which was also a lie I had only known Susan could have known Susan for 2 years but he knew her for about a year he did not marry pretty well and he never disclosed that he was Manson's parole officer a Manson hide in the same files as the person who lured these women into crimes that they were his communal wives that they would steal for him prostitutes themselves for him and the other people that they interviewed the probation officer are good against it saying they're going to go right back to this guy who's down in Los Angeles and continue the life of crime but the judge released them what they were trying to do was people into the family so they would offer them drugs and and and sacks and lot of women and bring them to these parties and where they screwed up is they got an underage boy who was Rick out right and he was the son of a sheriff so many of these instances where Charlie or members of the family were arrested and then it seems like the police officers who were holding them we're being told hey you got to let these guys go the others this is a higher the situation is above your paygrade and saw that I mean I think describes to arrest that Manson released on a technicality you know the shoddy police work or something when he should have been violated but what he didn't do was talk about three or four more and if you've got enough to chapter 10 you seen all that stuff laid out so when I got this record of a pretty substantial record I took it to someone in Lewis walk neck who was a retired judge and retired district attorney from the valley at around here Van Nuys cuz I needed somebody with the expertise and the knowledge how things work have to look at everything in context things work out differently today than they did in 2009 or 2100 him but he was there and 69 in the DA's office I brought the documents to him and we lay them all out on his kitchen table and he's looking at them in the poor guy was very sick with cancer and the recorder going and he's looking at all the documents and he's seeing this pattern of catch release catch release chickenshit chickenshit this is all chickenshit because he shouldn't he should have gone back the first time because they wanted him out he said he thought he was more important to somebody out than in he goes you got to find out who it was and I go out how do I do that and go you're not going to be able to that's using informant I go but who should I what should I look at because what he was working either for local law enforcement the federal government the FBI somebody wanted him out there doing whatever he was doing so that was important another turning point was a bunch of years later was when I brought similar materials to Steven K who was blue Yoshi's co-prosecutor in the case was an informant that's not just informing on crime and also can be doing the police's bidding that's where the CIA are the FBI part of a program where they're allowing this and also there's speculation that the the goal was to try to diminish the anti-war movement and that this guy was a part of the hippie movement and then so now people with associate hippies with violence and drugs and murder and all this horrific stuff and also there's speculation that the the goal was to try to diminish the anti-war movement and that this guy was a part of the hippie movement and then so now people with associate hippies with violence and drugs and murder and all this horrific stuff

so you brought up MK Ultra MK Ultra was a government program run by the Central Intelligence Agency originally started as something called Blue Bird and 1948-49 morph into artichoke and then in 1952 became MKUltra was a mind control program a brainwashing program the CIA was trying to learn how to control people's behavior without their knowledge now this is all came Senate and Congressional hearings in the 70s that was exposed but nobody knew about it until 1974 when Seymour Hersh the New York Times Reporter ever put it on the front page of the paper so their main objective was to commit to create what they called Hypno programmed assassins people who would kill on command popularly known as with Manchurian candidates after a book that was written 1962 and later became a movie movie again the people would be through drugs and hypnotism the objective was to get people to go and commit an act of murder against their moral code and have no memory of their programming and be amnesic even of the ACT after-the-fact often that was just one of those are mango but they were also trying to create careers people you know military people that they couldn't plant messages send them you know dangerous areas where they were at that time was the Vietnam War and deliver messages and then have them wipe from their remember in case they were captured that all kinds of objectives so Rodger Smith was supervising Manson when he became exactly what are he was able to do exactly what the mk-ultra program have been trying to create and do for at that point about 15 17 years when it was off supposed in the seventies and there were these hearings first the Rockefeller commission hearings and the church hearings and then finally Senator Ted Kennedy and Daniel anyway held hearings the CIA admitted that they had done this but they know one would say exactly what they did all the records have been destroyed when the two people who ran it Richard Helms would become the director of the CIA in the sixties and dr. Sidney Gottlieb who was kind of the mad scientist 2 had supervised doll that all the plants safe houses in San Francisco New York Los Angeles where they would experiment on people that were lured into these apartments and houses that were either look like brothels or hippie communes or whatever and the people who are working at the Haight-Ashbury free medical clinic that was run by another Smith which makes it a little confusing but dr. David Smith who founded it he had given and what's to a scientist name Jolly West Louis J West who was when when the killings occurred in the seventies identified as a top and kale to researcher he was an academic come out of the military have been at the University of Oklahoma University at University of Oklahoma sorry and that UCLA running psychiatric division he denied ever being involved in MK Ultra and this was one of the moment. 2001 when you know things really kind of shook the course of my reporting was I learned that West had been at the same place of Manson was in the hate in the summer that Manson became exactly what the CIA was trying to create and I knew lactide interviewed West about 7 years before for a story I did about celebrity stalkers with people who are obsessed with scars and then only to kill them or try to kill them is an expert and violence hypnotism brainwashing and he was a chair of the Psychiatry department at UCLA at that point he was dead when his name came up in the Manson story and there wasn't a lot of I mean I guess it was a lot of Google then or a little bit when I did a little research I found out that there been these allegations that he been involved in MKUltra he always denied it he was never prosecuted never even investigated he went to his grave threatening to sue anybody that said he would have anything to do kind of a program again through another long story but I got access to his files which is been left at UCLA and never been never been processed when I called and went when I made the request it took him two or three months to process the papers I went through them to the whole summer looking for a needle in a haystack and it was intuition God I just thought there might be something there and sure enough I eventually found it it was correspondence between Jolly West and Sidney Godley doctor that ran MK Ultra beginning in 1953 about Kentucky conducting experiments on people without their knowledge to get them to have a musics Asia of the ax after they were programmed and everything that he had been accused of and denied he did not only did he do it he created the blueprint for the whole program of God lead the fact that all these kind of interesting research problems emerged at the hate at the clinic and then Manson came out of it with the power to do exactly what the mk-ultra have been trying to create up to that point I thought was worth investigating further and that's why I kept going and going and going and a lot of crazy s*** back then do you wear of operation would like midnight climax that does with the safehouse play Lordi John's and fees brothels and then dose them up with LSD and studied them yeah George Hunter white was ahead CIA get guy and he would sit behind a two-way or one-way mirror and watch the the John's will be dosed with LSD they try to aerosol or just drinks different things and then they would study their behaviors aerosol sprays play The Wreckers are so scat because Helms order gotlib to destroy all the records in 1973 when the two men left the agency and the only reason anybody ever discovered that it existed was a whistle-blower somebody who used to work for the state department who remembered that there were records in a warehouse and they were just Financial records from the beginning of the program and 52 until the end and the possible and in 73 and it was just Financial records of where research took place how much was spent what kind of equipment was bought but nothing about the content the guy that found that ended up testifying to Congress and working with Seymour Hersh to expose it was named John Marks he wrote the first book about MKUltra that came out in the mid-to-late seventies called The Search for The Manchurian Candidate and after he wrote his book he never you know he spoke to the little bit of a tour and then retreated Into Obscurity and never would do an interview again until I approached them in the early 2000s and when I told him what I had what I had found West files these documents he agreed to meet with me at his townhouse in Washington DC and he told me he said the reason I stopped talking or writing about this is people were camping out on my front lawn you know telling me that they've been victims of MKUltra because I couldn't go anywhere in my whole life became crazy cuz everybody thought that they were subject to this cuz nobody knew they did these drug test on prisoners hospital patients John's hippies people that had no idea this was going on for 25 years so marks became the authority so he had never given an interview till he met with me and when he looked at my documents at that point I think I had about 10 or 12 or 15 pages that grew eventually cuz I kept going back to the files and get him or he said it was the unredacted uncensored account of what the real objectives were and what was really being done had never he said if I had had that my whole book would have been different so that's one of the problems about saying how much did they do or how far did they go there's barely any record and that's another reason it took me 20 years cuz I was trying to find out whether or not West it actually interacted with Manson and was a girls I know he was in the same facility I know that everybody that work there cuz I interviewed everybody that was a lie there most of them were still alive back in the late 90s early 2000s when I did this they all said oh yeah Charlie was eating them we knew it was Charlie in the girls they come in every day or every few days to see Rodger and and West was their recruiting subjects now west while he was there that summer had opened something called what he called the Haight-Ashbury project and in his correspondence and papers that I found he called it a laboratory disguise as a hippie crash pad and and just like the operation midnight safe how they calm safe houses which were disguises Bethea Cordello's and that type of thing or brothels these this was an apartment that was decked out or is he called a tricked-out to look like a communal hippie places six graduate students and I have his letters to them before they came to does grow your hair long wear jeans dress like hippies and lure people in there so they ran that for the summer of 67 and West was getting people from that Haight-Ashbury free medical clinic on Clayton Street and sending them around the corner to Frederick Street to participate in that and and they said idea what we're really supposed to be doing here we feel like this whole thing as a cover for something else what is Jolly want why is he making us bring these people in so I can do to bring people in and drugged programming go on to do legitimate work the ethical foundations of your career or set up in such a strange wife you're manipulating people against their knowledge will they didn't know who they were doing it for that's why they were always questioning at so you know I don't know how I found one or two of them after and they were very careful talking to me I'm sure that yeah that there's no statute of limitations on murder right I mean that's one of the biggest disappointments of my book is that people like West aren't alive you know that to answer for that to answer this and it was really frustrating for me because his name was on the front page of the New York Times in 1977 when they had the major hearings about MKUltra and it identified him as the head of the Psychiatry department at UCLA very prominent doctor researcher and he said he had nothing to do with that he never used LSD on humans and he wouldn't he said they had asked him and he said no I have all these letters between him and the guy who was running the program describing how they're going to do it hide it from his colleagues when he started at he started at Lackland Air Force Base he was running the Psychiatry department at the hospital there 1952 when he was there running that hospital that's when he started his prisoners human subjects and one letter to Gottlieb he says eventually we have to take these experiments out to the field of Jesus exactly does that mean well if you haven't gotten it through a chapter 11 yet you haven't gone to the Jimmy shaver a year after maybe Jamie did a year after I was contracted with the CIA to do these experiments July 4th 1950 for 3 year old girl went missing from the parking lot of a bar at about 11 or 12 at night and her parents with a heatwave they couldn't sleep they went to the bar they brought their two kids they let them play in the parking lot at midnight the little girl disappeared they organize a search party about three or four hours later they went to a gravel pit and two Arrow to Airmen itinerant guys had called the police the local sheriff and said there's a guy here that wandered out of the brush with scratches and blood no shirt and he doesn't know how he got here who he is the police came his name was Jimmy shaver he was in Harriman they did a search and they found a little girl's body not too far away and she had been raped and murdered by this guy who had no memory of doing it the guy no History of Violence had a couple kids and he was a flight instructor at the school he been in the military for a number of years I think it was in his early 30s well guess who became his psychiatrist in preparation for the trial Jolly West who inserted himself into the case and then extracted his memory from him using sodium pentathol where he admitted to the the murderer now in the context of what we found out west was doing and what is detectives were at that same time it raises huge questions about this was an experiment gone wrong you know that he was part of one of these experiments at Lackland Air Force Base where he was signed up during the trial it came out that he had had treatment for severe migraines experimental treatment at Lackland that's another you know smaller subchapter in the book but is it described what kind of experimental treatment he received nobody I mean I have all the testimony of there was actually a treat a trial or jury trial and sentencing and every time it came up it was really frustrating because he never testified so that it was either his wife or his mother who would talk about it was mostly his mother saying well all I knew it was they wanted him to be involved in this two years study to try to relieve his his migraines he would have such horrible migraines he would put his head in bucket of ice water the people who described encountering him that night when he was arrested and immediately taken out of the sheriff's custody by the military police and brought the Lachlan and then back to the Sheriff's he was in a trance the doctors tested him for alcohol cuz he's drunk Uno out just a little bit of alcohol in the system but he wasn't drunk and after the fact they found out that he had I don't want to get into this cuz it's really getting into the weeds but he had hallucinated that this little girl was a cousin who sexually abused him as a child and he was trying to kill her name was Beth rainbow all the stuff came out at the trial Jolly West in 1955 send a report to Sidney Gottlieb which nobody had seen it was another document I found in his files and now it's saying that he had learned how to develop the technology to remove true memories and replace them with false memories and a human subject without their knowledge which was one of the main goals the biggest goals of the MKUltra program it again when the CIA when they have the hearings in the 70s the CIA said nothing was successful everything we try was a failure it was a waste of money we shouldn't have done it and most experts think that that was a cover that they didn't want to admit they that they had developed these technologies that were effective they also claimed that they had released everything they had I found the same report where West said that he had learned how to replace true memories with false ones without a person's awareness but they had remove that from the report and then release it to Congress so that's a crime right there you know there's a lot of that stuff in the book is that this guy through these experimental treatments that they do stuff up with LSD and experimented using these MKUltra techniques and did that to him and then do some sort of this is speculation. I'll go there a History of Violence never been arrested upstanding citizen is only problem with these horrible headaches and he shows up by a small girl's body who been brutally murder with no memory of doing it a year earlier doctor West who became a psychiatrist within a week or two possibly had experiences with them before but there was no record when I try to get the record from the medical center at Lackland his file his name was shaver I think it was essay was missing so where shaver would have been in the medical records it was gone so I couldn't find out whether he'll actually participated in any kind of experimental program that so is the speculation the Genesis speculation that he did commit the crime that he was somehow another induced into committing this crime will go out and do things not even necessarily what to do things against their will against their moral Cody but how would they know that this child would be there how would they do know she wasn't targeted so was it just that they put it into his head to go and downplay anyone was one of the Premier Research new to it he had actually come out of here first gained national attention for being one of four or five doctors who treated Korean prisoners of War who were returned to the United States after they had made confessions of spraying the Korean Countryside with you legal biological weapons the United States so that we don't use that that's against the Geneva codes and these guys were brainwashed by the North Korea Chinese Soviets so when they were brought back after the war West and four other psychiatrists were assigned to de-program them what a lot of researchers believe is that they actually brainwash them into thinking they've been brainwashed by the Koreans where they actually were telling the truth because there's a lot of evidence has come out as recently as 5-6 years ago that we did use these weapons in Korea is that they actually brainwash them into thinking they've been brainwashed by the Koreans where they actually were telling the truth because there's a lot of evidence has come out as recently as 5-6 years ago that we did use these weapons in Korea double cross

other big eye opener for what's kept from us at one point 2011 I had a researcher at the Washington Post a woman there who has been there for years so I can get myself in trouble for this to I won't say her name but anyway she's very well known and she's their intelligence researcher she works with all of the reporters at the post on intelligence stories National Security stories and she had someone at the CIA fashion Department who would confirm or deny stuff with her and she said I completely trust these people I've been working with him for 10 years I'll ask them about Jolly West and see what they have on them and I said before you ask them don't tell them cuz she had the documents I share them with her don't tell them what I have proven that he was part of MKUltra just say you're working with an author of the book who wants to know whether there cuz I redone request we can neither confirm nor deny then she said they don't they'll tell me the truth like they're not going to give you another confirm or deny we'll just say we have something and we can't tell you if we can or we have nothing but we'll get the truth to see what they have so a week later she lets me know and she said they said there's nothing he never participated in the program there's no record and I go up and want to say her name I go well I don't think you should be using them anymore because they're not liable and you know that cuz you've seen the documents so she we think that I don't know we know what you did after that's the way they can embed themselves with reporters by letting me know that I'm your friend like I'll tell you the truth it's a complicated world where I keep people safe discuss three Woodson he's the guy that claim to it he'll infiltrator the Manson family no no no no is that after 11 chapters are there 13 including the apologue yeah yeah yeah what's a spook and unfortunately was dead by the time I start a record I wasn't interested listen to some of his close friends he lives in Los Angeles and then he disappear for months doing undercover work and he said we never he would even tell us who we work for but his wife and daughter who were in Sweden and other people who said it was a CIA he told before he died a couple years before his death three or four of his closest friends including his attorney that he had worked on an operation and he wouldn't tell them who but he had infiltrated the Manson family prior to the murders and it was. His dying regret was he could have prevented them but didn't he also said that he was at the crime scene after the killers had left before the police had arrived which was like a four or five-hour window and I was able to confirm not that he was there those five hours but that he was missing and that the police set up watch at his father's house he was living with the try to figure out what was going on he ended up helping Colonel taejon Tate's father who left his job in Military Intelligence to help police in the investigation even dressed up like a hippie dress up like a hippie and soda Reeve and Ray was a really hardcore right-wing guy I mean he was racist and and his daughter sent me pictures of him and she said once he dies in fact this is how serious this guy was he divorce read divorced his wife was a Swedish model first he sent her and his infant daughter back to Sweden from the United States in 61 cuz he thought there was going to be nuclear war and then in the mid-sixties he told his wife he had to divorce her and he couldn't have any relationship with his daughter because his daughter this is only vulnerability because of the work he did that would be how they heard even if they lived all the way in Sweden so the daughter Liza who I've never met but we started talking on the phone and she started sending me materials didn't meet him until a couple years before his death he reached out to her that I couldn't have any relationship with you because of my work but I want to do that now so he Florida Los Angeles introduced her to all of his friends and he died she went to his apartment and went through his things and found a picture of him dressed up as a hippie it's in the book and I mean it's hard to tell but it's in the parking lot and the cars are always late 60s models so this is one of the parts of the book where I work so hard to try to prove that the definite link interview probably 12 or 13 Manson family members and I show them that picture and they say he look like any number of guys you look like any number of guys that that came in and out of there they come for a day to screw us women would say Charlie would bring guys in and we didn't know if they were the ones we're providing drugs or who they were but yeah maybe or maybe not you know and they were all high most of the time too

the block there's a murder in there that I think the Manson family committed that was covered up by the law enforcement cuz it's screwed up it would have screwed up the prosecution I want that looked into there's also at the end of the book there these texts Watson audio tapes that I found out about in 2008 when Watson turned himself in when he found he was alerted and in Texas he was at his parents house so they call the police call the local sheriff who was Texas cousin and his parents and said he's wanted for questioning in is unsalted murders this is November 29th nobody had been identified publicly as suspects the police were just starting to figure out that these people that killed their victims so to LAPD flew down to Texas Watson was brought into the station question by the LAPD put under arrest they had to extradite I'm so that the sheriff there Texas doesn't put them in a Cell the family call up a lawyer Bill boy who would actually Arizona tax on a college case when he stole a typewriter from a college and a prank Bill Boyd told me an interview in 2008 that that day he had text tell him the whole story or Charles is he called him about how he met Manson why the murders were committed how they happen he said he spoke to me for 20 hours and he goes I've got all those audio tapes in a safe in my office he told me that in 2008 he said he also described other murders that the family had committed that hadn't been connected to them so right away when you're on 2009 working on it that long I thought other murders that's important to me but more important did he tell his attorney why the murders really happen you know why they picked those houses you know this was the first account that was recorded the next one was Susan Atkins about a week later after she had gotten her new attorney that the prosecution planted they audio taped her telling her version which became the official version so Watson's would predate that by a week and when I found out that they were in that safe and he's telling me this on the phone I thought he can't play that to me because that would violate Watson's attorney-client privilege but I thought have to ask is there any chance that's what I could come down and listen to those tapes and he said that's when he realized he shouldn't have told me that all will you I couldn't do that without Charlie Charles Watson Charles permission I go you still in touch with me also I write to him every now and then he writes me he didn't represent him a trial after he was extradited and I thought what you please ask so that began three or four months of me pestering and he would never take the phone call and then finally after 4 months I call open the secretaries and I'm sorry mr. Boys in China on business today and I said what you have to tell him I'm not going to wait anymore I'm going to write to Charles and tell him what he told me I go if there's other bodies I mean I didn't let them know that I was more interested in the motive story but I said if I was interested in the other bodies are victims out there who've never been connected or even the remains were because there's a lot of evidence that there might have been people killed out in the desert and buried there I need to know that and she said okay I'll tell him my phone rang like literally 30 seconds after I hung it up and I had caller ID it was from his Texas office cuz this is Billy boy you cannot call Charles and tell him I told you that I sent mr. Boyd you haven't call me back before Monday cuz why I'm telling you now you can't do that I go well are you going to get his permission I can't wait anymore he says if you do that and you tell him I'll deny ever telling you I said it's all on tape you don't have permission to tape that cargo yeah you gave me permission at the beginning and that's on tape to the goddamn they hung up on me bankrupt and then it was until two or three years later and it's all in there the backstory but I finally went to try to get the tapes again and found out he had died found out that the tapes were in the possession of the trustee who was waiting for the bankruptcy to be evolved over resolved and it took me three or four months of back-and-forth and to try to get them to release the tapes to me and I made an argument for why they weren't protected anymore again long story short I was sharing information with the deputy da in Los Angeles who I thought was friendly he was until he wasn't and he was handling all the parole hearings of the Manson family guy named Pat Sakura the woman who was in charge of the tapes the trustee said it's secure calls me and tells me that it's okay for me to release them to you and explain how it's not a violation I'll do it I said Alaskan so I absolutely I want to talk to her and I said great a day later I got a call from security cuz you're not going to believe that she's releasing the tapes to us I know you because you don't worry I'll let you hear him when we got them then I have lost any kind of control and sure enough number one the trustee had to notify Watson's new attorney Watson put up a fight in court and it's in you can read about the other times I reported on that the year for about a year and one from the local Court of the state supreme court for the judge finally ruled that the LAPD should have the tapes they sent two officers down to get the tapes in 2013 they came back and then nobody at the DA's office would talk to me anymore the promise that have been made that I would be the first one to listen to them reneged those tapes a million journalist have made a Freedom of Information Act request for them they won't release them to Locked Up less mountains attorney want some he thinks it'll help her at her parole hearings because he thinks there's information on there to show that you've been telling the truth all these years he's gone to the state supreme court to other courts they block them down 20 hours first account of how and why these murders occurred and they're not releasing them I think it's because the truth is on there information on there to show that you've been telling the truth all these years he's gone to the state supreme court through the other courts they blocked them down 20 hours first account of how and why these murders occurred and they're not releasing them I think it's because the truth is on there

is the speculation terms of gliosis connection was he given a narrative was did did you do think that they want to answer that he was compromised when he was given this case in 1969 it's in the book he has family out there but they know about this he was involved in a couple cases the first one before the trial that are crazy I mean when you see the stuff that happened between him and I you know all those years later it makes sense when you see what he was like before he became famous so in 1965 he had his first child Vincent bugliosi junior he decided that he wasn't the father that the Milkman was the father and back in those days you're too young to know people used to deliver milk to home remember hearing about it so he believed that the Milkman was a father he was a whopping coming this Deputy district attorney in Los Angeles and for about I think 12 or 16 months he stalked his Milkman trying to get him to take a blood test to prove that he fathered his wife's child it got so bad that they had to they stop letting their kids take the bus homeschool their two young kids they didn't know who he was he wouldn't tell them who he was all he would say was I was on the Milkman has left the job a month after his wife found out she was pregnant then says why then send his delirium decided that he was fired because he gotten you know clients are people who delivered milk to pregnant so he was writing them Anonymous letters following the kids I actually this is one thing I did hear I heard from the two little girl sent one who's now a grown woman read about this in my book and she sent me a letter and she goes you only got half of it he said he terrorized us he said my father she said my father than what we had a nervous breakdown she said he came to my school and pick me up and and he took me to a toy store bought all these toys me whatever I wanted brought me to the house and he had a driver and he met at the end of the driveway my mom came out and I was like so happy I was like five or six years old I had all these gifts and she goes get into the house getting to the house so what happened was Vince got caught I mean he eventually what was stalking and he sent his wife to the house to beg the milkman's wife to get her husband to do a paternity test and I've done all this from all these civil depositions when it came when the man sued him later Vince that the milkmaid eventually got his brother-in-law to follow them from one of his Steakhouse Pennswoods put the car outside the house he sent them letters like they changed her phone number he goes I noticed you change your phone number that wasn't nice I mean not so the Milkman followed Vance brother-in-law that got the plate number found out who he was and that he was at the DA's office called his personal attorney and the personal attorney called Vince and they meeting between Vince the Milkman the milkman's wife and this is Julio C and then admitted that he had been stalking them because he thought it was his wife here Tuesday as investigators calling this guy a material witness in a murder case to follow him get information private information on Lake big so Vince said he would pay them $100 and never do it again and the Milkman said we don't want your money just never bother us again so that way all about the end of 68 or early 69 the DA's office knew about this he should have been fired immediately instead he gets the biggest case at that point in the history of Los Angeles the tate-labianca trial this is where we get speculative you have a guy like Vince whose compromise he'll do what the hires up tell him to do and if you read in the book Apple younger was a district attorney at the time he was a shady guy who died OSS which was the predecessor to the CIA trained in Espionage don't think too much it's in the book that's where we got speculative it since was answering for something the explanation is because he didn't go into this case clean he had to do what he was told and to this day is the best selling True Crime book of all time and it's a wonderfully written block I mean I could take a page by Page and show your stuff is completely fabricated and made up and that contradicts the real record but you know best seller and that same year then was going to run for district attorney and the Milkman and his wife had never told anyone I guess outside of their family what it happened for 5 before but when I saw that fence was trying to be the most powerful long first person in the city of Los Angeles they went to his opponent and said you need to know this this man cannot get this job so they told the opponent and they had a press conference so the Milkman and his wife went public Vince responded by having his own press conference and telling the reporters here's here's what happened the Milkman We Believe call $300 in cash on my kitchen table when he was on the route so I'm just doing a personal investigation and through reporters that will did you hire let me did you contact the Pasadena Police cuz I know I just wanted to do it on my own and then it's other people pointed out later he was doing this this was 65 he was doing it through the end of 68 the statute of limitations on theft burglary robbery is 3 year it would even if he found out that he had someone the $3 they would have been able to prosecute it so the whole thing went with a live-in slide to the media and he lost the money lost that election then he ran again after Health escape this culture came out for Attorney General of California at that point the Milkman and the wife were going to go public again at the hey we have even more to tell about the Hoosiers I think of what the daughter wants to tell me she actually hasn't gotten in touch with me after the first email I said I want to hear what you have and see she said she's all these. but then a woman named return your car well that she was going to go public to she came out and said excuse me after Vince told the world that the Milkman has stolen $300 for him the Milkman his wife filed a civil suit against pins and Gail his wife because Gail also publicly said with ants in an interview that that's a true that was all about it at this petty theft they sue them for defamation and they settled and then pay them I think it was $12,000 in cash and hundred dollar bills and you know part of the agreement was they weren't allowed to talk about it they couldn't say they've gotten any money and he would only give it in cash so they couldn't trace it to him I ended up getting all the documents that took a long time but I got them then when they went public again when he was running for attorney general they were subject to you know being in violation of that but they said he can't you know them will tell everything he doesn't want to tell he lied under oath and deposition so did his wife about the stalking so in 73 Vince had an affair with a woman named Virginia Cardwell Virginia Cardwell was Catholic she got pregnant she told Vincent that she was pregnant with his child and then said she had to get an abortion and she said I can't get an abortion on the Catholic she was a single mother he said he would set it up he had a doctor it was still illegal and I he he gave her the money to pay the doctor and then he called her and she said she had gotten a abortion everything was fine then he called the doctor violating HIPAA rules the doctor said actually I've never heard from this woman I didn't give her the procedure so Vince went to her house and beat the hell out of her and I've got all those depositions to he he just according to the her Story 2 she reported that he dragged her across the hair about the four by the hair satin her and punched her and punched her again in the face told her she had to get an abortion she miscarried after that episode she went she went to the Santa Monica Police as soon as he left and reported it and nobody would have known about it but the reporter saw it on that you know the police wire service or whatever so the next day it was on the front page of all the LA papers that vents Puleo's he had been accused of battery of a man who said that he wanted her to have an abortion and she wouldn't so Vince went to the police told them she was lying she was a client that he had had one phone consultation with never met her face-to-face and she was trying to embarrass him because he wanted her to pay him two or $300 he defend her like he did the Milkman he he made up a story and worse this time he told that to the police this was an in their investigation of the battery he lied to the police that it did not happen but here's what happened the next day after the newspapers reported it and then said it was a lie and he told the police that Ben's went back to her apartment with his secretary and a typewriter and he held her hostage I know that sounds crazy it's in the book at the end held her hostage for I think three or four hours bagging her and then bullying her like he might hit her then so I can't remember to go to the police and say that she had made the whole story up his secretary was there cuz once he got her to agree to do it she wrote up backdated bill the bill for the money and had Virginia sign it so Virginia finally agreed to go to the police said look you're going to be charged with filing a false report which is a felon it was a misdemeanor but it could go to a felony and you I can take care of all that I've got the connections to the DA's office in Santa Monica what you did and he did take care of it so she called up the Santa Monica Police Department to say she was coming in to report that she had made the story up because she was angry about this money and the cop said right away he knew that something was wrong in the Tremor of her voice is it what kind of got you and Vince was on the other line he said no no no they can't come here this is no no no I'm coming and they said okay we'll see you when you get here and then they dispatched two cops to her apartment now this endeavor in public before I found a did become public about what happened Vince got away with denying it the cop that went to see what was going on in to get her Sunday Michael Landes he was retired in Santa Monica I got his name from the report he said oh yeah pencils at the house he wouldn't let us end he said he and his partner Steinberg were there and she's cowering behind them crying and we got her out of the house prior to the station and she told the the store that it was fake that and he said what we saw him there she goes you have no idea how dangerous he is I didn't I made it up please it was a false report so she got charged the next day's papers reported that this woman to come out and admitted that the whole thing was made up nobody said anything to the cops didn't talk to reporters about fence being at the house and then we know he prevailed he won then when he ran for Attorney General of California and 76 Virginia Cardwell went public and then then said told the same lie about her he'd never seen her face-to-face she was trying to get two or three hundred dollars from him for a phone, do not pay the money for a phone consultation he lost the Attorney General's race when she went public and again with the Milkman and mistress then she sued then dang he lied in the depositions and then when he got caught with the cop the other people who could show that they've been together and there was a history of that had an affair for like six months he was all that and paid her a substantial amount of money to go away so this is the kind of person who when I told Vince I was writing about this in my book he's like the number one I can't talk about either of those cases because they were resolved and there is non-disclosures and I do the things you know that's not true because number one Virginia is dead she had died so she can't see you and she went public and so did the wise owls that the Milkman in the mistress and I wouldn't you know I'm not interested in your sordid you know personal life but it's relevant because I'm arguing that you committed crimes in the prosecution of the Manson family suborn perjury hit evidence you know manipulator the defense by planning an attorney so I if I'm going to you know try to make this case and everyone's not going to believe it because you're Invincible EOC you know this prominent prosecutor author will I have to show that there's a pattern in this Behavior not only that you are lying under oath in the depositions in these two cases before you settle but you also lied to the police in the in the Cardwell case and you lied to the papers and both if I have that in my book then people be more prone to believe that you do the same thing in and the tate-labianca but you would break rules to win your connections did he have a Ghostwriter for Helter Skelter. Collaborate call Vince's wife came to her house and knocked on her door and said please do this my husband's making me crazy we know that he's your husband. Man isn't the father of my my boy but just do it to make him stop and the milkman's wife said we're not we don't want anything to do with you people just leave us alone and go away if you cuz you don't understand my husband is mentally ill he goes he'll never stop that's why there's nothing I can do to get him to stop at the end of our 6 hours I don't know put in the book I might not have he said to me no kill things I have some psychiatric issues and she's been trying to get me to go to a doctor for ever so you know I'm not saying that this is a reason some of this stuff might have happened but I do you know I don't even know why he would tell me that but yeah so I think that he was able to be manipulated because of these vulnerabilities compromised daughter and a mistress for the next 30 Years I interview the mistress I didn't put it in the book you know I didn't think it was necessary I guess now I'm telling it but it actually got reported after he died cuz the Mistress of told a few other people I'd known about her for years and I knew he had a daughter who was you know at the time of Vince's death she was in her thirties I think are you the mistress I didn't put it in the book you know I didn't think it was necessary I guess now I'm telling it but it actually got reported after he died cuz the mistress it told a few other people I'd known about her for years and I knew he had a daughter who was you know at the time of Vince's death she was in her thirties I think

so these groups were trying to incite violence now we get to the motive of of of the official Narrative of the Manson Murders are the tate-labianca murders which is what the prosecutor vincible EOC presented at trial which was the famous Helter Skelter mode of Manson believed that there was going to be a race war and he wanted to incite this race war because he had convinced his followers that through messages he received from the Beatles White Album from there lyrics from Biblical Old Testament prophecies that he had been told that he was going to be the savior of the world and once a race war started he would hide his family in a bottomless pit in the desert and when the race war ended with the blacks winning the blacks would be frame for promoters they would the Manson family would emerge and repopulate the planet with their perfect top Offspring and dominates the blacks but whether or not it was the motive for the murders is I raised serious questions about the mansard would discuss it in that way that there was going to be a race war and that they would emerge and then their offspring yeah yeah except for the fact that I was questioned so the way Julio C was able to convicted Manson Manson wasn't at the Tate house when the murders happened he had in the official story dispatched Susan Atkins Patricia krenwinkel Leslie Kasabian and tex Watson to the house Palmer House of Terry Melcher they didn't know who live there but just to kill everybody and has mansinthe allegedly said leave something witchy he wanted it to look like blacks had killed these all he did was they were wealthy beautiful whites and he wanted to ignite the race war because of the Panthers got blame for these motors then the police will crack down and then they Revolt the revolution would happen they would be it would spread across the whole world and then when it was over and the blacks had prevailed they were too dumb Manson believed to be able to run the world that's when he will come out with his followers of their hole in the desert and take over the planet now Julio C said in interviews that I didn't have until after he and I stopped speaking which is when he started threatening me with lawsuits and other things in the in the 2006-7 I discovered two or three interviews he gave in the early seventies where he was asked if he believed that Manson really believe this craziness and Lucy Lucy said I don't think Charlie believes in it he got his followers to but he never believed in that he was too smart he was a con man what the interviewers didn't ask him in the follow-up was well if he didn't believe it why did he send his followers to kill these people the first night at the Tate house II night and was valassis the upper middle class the labiancas then you know what was the motive and that's one of my biggest regrets is that I slept and they were kind of obscure when was a pan house interview the other was original newspaper but that I didn't have them I thought I had done all the research I thought I read every interview he'd ever given but I didn't have it at hand to say all right then. I get that cuz I don't think Manson believe it either then what was the motive for the murders why were they sent there to kill and that's what the book Explorer so do you think bugliosi was operating with the knowledge that Manson was apart of these programs that's the big question yet he invited me to his house and Pasadena April of 99 we spent Lily 6 hours together he was so kind and generous time I thought I scored I had the prosecutor hadn't given interviews of he always gave interviews about this but he hadn't for a number of years agree to do it for whatever reason and during the course of that interview you know I arrived at his house went to Kitchen his wife gave me Italian cookies with coffee and lemonade then he and I went out to lunch in the valley somewhere he showed me some of the sites connected to the murders then we went back to the house and cocktail Sunset and towards the end of the six hours I did realize that even though he was talking Non-Stop and I'm recording everything he hadn't given me anything new or different I mean I just finished Helter Skelter I read it for the first time so I never been interested in the case till I got the assignment so I took what we call the Hail Mary pass in journalism which is you ask someone if there's anything they could tell you off the Record not for attribution that will help them to get something fresh cuz I was still searching for a go to the first month of reporting and then kind of thought a minute and then goes turn it off turn it off so I turned off the recorder and he did I could tell he was debating but then he told me something which I'm not sure if I don't think I reveal it to the last chapter is off the record with salacious pretty shocking in the larger picture and it doesn't change anything really but it showed me that he is a very count of something very important in the narrative and I took that away and I thought wow I'm going to delete it was off the Record in 2005 when I interviewed him for the second time and all things went to hell and he started threatening me and with lawsuits and writing letters to my publisher trying to get them to stop the book he wrote about what he told me and he claimed that I had dragged it out of him and embellished it and all this but once he put that in the letter the lawyers at the Publishers that was not on the record anymore because these documents will all be in a Civil Trial when he soon as you what you said he was about to do not off the Record by the police the first day after the murders they found it hidden up in a loft videotape videotaping home video taking was relatively new at that point not a lot of people had cameras but Roman Polanski did and in Helter Skelter Vince says in the book that the police took the tape viewed it and it was just Sharon and Roman making love and returned it to The Loft Roman was in London at the time of the murders he came back immediately and then about a week later he went up to the house and one of the first things he did was he when I pull off and he never even knew that they took it allegedly that that's a story found it and took it Vince told me originally off the Record that the tape wasn't of Roman and China making love it was Sharon being forced to have sex with two men against her wishes and he said Roman was the one who's making it cuz you could hear him in the in the background you know if you ready to pull you read those chapters when we did a lot of bad stuff to Sharon yeah he seem like a terrible person when you hear what he did what the reason why I can never come back to the country go well okay it makes sense it makes once I have that that's kind of the first rabbit hole I went down cuz I'm like well if this was different in the official narrative what else might they have changed so Vince and I were talking on the phone about every week for two months he was so accessible so I'll be interviewing people and one of the first things after that that I found was the perjuries by Terry Melcher on the stand I found I got access to two separate files and found that Melcher Doris Day Saint record producer youngboy wonder who lived in the house with his girlfriend candy Bergen on Cielo up until January 1st of 69 then moved the Malibu and Roman and Sharon moved into the house and February melchior was the part of the motor for why the house is picked and again this is getting into the weeds but it's hard to talk about any of this without the sex position Manson sent his followers up there to instill fear in Melcher by killing all the occupants of his former house who were strangers to them I don't believe that that's the official narrative but melchior testified at the Grand Jury and then at the trial that he had three fleeting encounters with Manson one of these boy drummer Dennis Wilson's to there I think and then one there and then to when he went to the Spahn Ranch in April and m69 to listen to them play music with the possible possibility of recording them and he didn't think they were talented enough and told the trolley that in so many words and then again this is the official narrative that's my man some kind of spy role in one crazy cuz he been rejected by Terry Melcher so he decided it was time for Helter Skelter the race war and again a lot of these things don't add up when you back why did he kill Terry Melcher at the house in Malibu cuz he knew where he had moved to widen just go to this other place and kill strangers maybe Terry wouldn't connect it all that bottom line was Terry on the stand and then all the official Accounts at this case of which there are many nights is helter skelter but lots of books his relationship with Manson ended in May of 69 he said he never saw him again when the murders happened at his former house it never occurred to him it had anything to do with him wasn't Manson I stopped believing that a month or two in and then I found these documents showing that meltra actually had gone to see Manson twice at the Spahn Ranch after the motors and then once all the way out at Death Valley where they had the Barker Ranch where they were hiding when they were finally captured in in the fall of 69 once I could document that that changed the whole I mean it didn't change that impacted the mode of a Mauser was app witness the camp is Charlie wasn't at the Tate house Manson Hut Arbolitos he had to come victim of conspiracy and other words ordering people to go up there and kill and he had to have a reason for that house at Terry provided it by saying yes I did go out there and try to record them and then eventually the question that came out but I never had anything to do with him again I had no idea I never saw him or heard from him motivation was Revenge she was using but it didn't make any sense because Melcher saw him after the murder several times I think you could get away with anything then because the antics of the family at the trial and everybody was so horrified by what was going on nobody was looking at this critically and questioning stuff cuz everyday you know Manson and the girls are getting thrown out of the courtroom for screaming for singing for dancing for mocking the proceedings so all this stayed under the radar but once I could prove that melt relied and then two or three more than I knew that I had to question the entire narrative so fully OC started monitoring my interviewing this is all laid out in the beginning of the book so by the fall of the first year of 99 I got a call from one of my sources Rudi Altobelli with another important witness he was the man who owned the house with murders happen he was traveling he was actually in Europe with Sharon who would come back about about three weeks before to have her baby and Rudy it told me from the very beginning he was very close to Terry Dennis Wilson in the third guy Greg Jacobson Craig Jacobson was another important witness who lied throughout the whole all of us that somebody in the trial just did a narrative needed Rudy had told me that that's called him what are you telling this O'Neill no one was supposed to know about that means promised me it would never come out so at that point I knew that I was onto something even even bigger and then I got a call from Vince and he left a message on the machine saying he wanted to talk to me what's important so I called him back and he said you know I'm hearing can't remember who told me another little game of his he would never be the guy said to me or one of my friends events that someone told her that you're questioning my tactics in my choices at the trial is that true you're not time with what's going on here I go I'm looking at stuff missing you know you knew where this was going I mean I know we haven't talked at that point we hadn't talked for about 6 weeks I think you have I want you to assure me that I'll be given the opportunity to answer any of these questions because what might appear irregular to you as a lay person can be easily explained by me as well of course not definitely swing back around to you before you left and I thought this was going to be out in August and we were in like October I think it'll yeah I got an extension it's a booking that you lied that it's not a magazine so I don't know I'm still getting paid by Premera cuz I was at that point and I had no idea it was going to be a book cuz we're still in the first six seven months so at that point we stopped talking Vince and I and it wasn't until 2005 when I got my book deal that I went back to him with these questions I thought hope naively that I would get him to break down and say yes it was all the CIA operation I was Opera stupid as really freaked out by how deep you got into this he's going to hurt me like I've never been hurt before and he's going to sue me $400 hundreds of millions of dollars is crazy or when you get to the end of the book you'll see the outcome of that day and what happened when he's begging me he's saying he'll give me a quote on the cover of my book if I don't publish this stuff and and then when I wouldn't agree to anything then the lawsuit sweat started happening so I naively I didn't think it was going to break down and say I was working for someone else I had no choice friends but instead he was evasive threatening screaming denying here to recorders I had two recorders he went off the Record every two minutes so we have to turn off all the recorders and then switch not turning his attention in Turner's back I don't know you didn't turn it off wait no that's mine is yours so woman and he's screaming and cursing at me going they were already on because we couldn't keep up with all the off-the-record she's then when I got home that night so I walked out of the house 6 hours exactly almost six hours just like the first time 6 years earlier he's grabbing me by the arm of this isn't quid pro quo this isn't quid pro quo but if you don't put this ridiculous nonsense in because you know a blur from Vince Polly always refer to himself in the third person 1020 times a day mean the man Z goes you'll see that in the book when I get home that night there's messages, call me and he called me I think it's a week we can have almost every day the next morning a few days later trying to he would believe me and then he said this is going to do to my family my kids and all that went on and on and on unless you have them I know I know and then he knew he said when we finally goes at the very very last phone call which is the week and a half later he goes so you really going to go ahead and do it this then I'm going to report what I have I go if you want at this point I thought I had sold the book so he knew I had a publisher I told him who it was and he asked for Hooters name there he said because I will be sending them a letter because I will work on this letter for hours it's going to be a complete rebuttal of everything you argued all of your arguments all your points it's going to ruin you they're going to cancel your deal cuz they're not stupid so he wrote the letter they got it and I think it was June or July after February of that that year 2005 and I got a call from my editor he said you got to talk to our attorneys I hate those we have a letter from fence I go I told you it was coming it's 34 pages single-spaced with 50 pages of attachments and I've never seen anything like this so he said talk talk to the attorney so they sent me over to the attorney and he said my first question. I never met the guy before he was my first question for you O'Neill is is he suffering from dementia I was a law student during the trial and he goes I follow the trial everyday in the paper I've read Helter Skelter he was brilliant because I can't believe the person that wrote this letter wrote that book so maybe you were dealing with somebody who is impaired I said he's mentally ill and have a lot of proof of that in the book he is not the match I go he's finishing his magnum opus a 20-year effort to write a book The rebutting the critics of the information about the Kennedy assassination I was got a book coming out at or and sure enough you know he wrote I think two or three more books after that I go he's just I caught him all of his arguments don't make sense he's contradicting himself that letter goes off in the directions that it sounds like it's written by a Madman I go to going to inhibit us because I don't know where we're opening the champagne 50 pages of attachment of the first letter then about 6 months later another letter I think there were four total I quote some of them in the book it was not and unfortunately he passed away in 2015 or 16 and I get a lot of criticism by Demi to get it from her when he died I know he was sick off and on for a couple years but I've been accused by my critics of not publishing the book until he died because of these threatened I wanted him to be alive I wanted him to be accountable and have to answer to all this the reason I didn't publish it when I was going to polish it was penguin my publisher canceled my deal in 2011 date motive do to get back to the house the main motive is to ignite Helter Skelter race for the sub motive was to instill fear in Terry Melcher because he had rejected Manson so you're saying well then if it wasn't those then what was it all right if you look at the cointelpro objectives which was to to diminish the to neutralize left-wing movement and make them look horrible evil bad and this is what drugs are going to do to your kids the kind of outcome that this these murders had was to make the hippies the boogeyman I mean the biggest Boogeyman in the United States history I don't know forever but at least until the 70s came Charlie Manson and when Manson was and his family were identified as suspects the first week of December 69 I mean it was like Earth shaking because all of a sudden nobody knew who had committed the murders that the case was open from tell first of December you have photos on the front page of every paper in the world of these hippie women you know nursing children living communally who are accused of these horrible brutal slang and the argument was that end with the reporters were reporting was they had gone crazy on LSD and free love and and and the hippie ethic and that was same thing Johnson Control power trying to do their trying to damage the youth Revolution the youth targeted that house though he saying what we have to do this is when they were mostly battling the panther, trying to neutralize the Panthers and La was go after the whites the elite White's the Hollywood white or supporting the Panthers or something called a white panther party that began in La 67 or 68 Jane Fonda Warren Beatty Cass Elliot those three were actually under surveillance by the FBI they were part of this group Donald Sutherland and they were basically a support Leonard Bernstein they supported the Panthers they raise money so in this one, which I think it was the winter of 68 it's got the date said that what we have to make the whites think is that when the revolution finally happens when the blacks rise up they'll be lined up with everybody else and slaughtered so if you look at that memo that was part of their operation which was to they did it by sending letters making you know the whites carrots or if you read the book that this could have been okay I'll Circle until Pro operation to turn you know the world the nation the culture against hippies the left-wing the Black Panthers and they picked that house because it was high-profile because Sharon Tate bought it actually they were like the social Center of Hollywood it wasn't just movie people who was the music people Terry Melcher and Candice Bergen live there for two years before that was a party house everybody went in and out of their kind of represented the elite of movies Music Hollywood you know white people so that would have been a very high-profile place to hit Target Joan Didion wrote in her book The White Album that the morning she learned about the murders and she knew most of the victim she goes it occurred because I knew that the 60s attended they were over I mean there was also Altamont and I mean not a whole lot else but that was like a cultural watershed moment that the morning she learned about the murders and she knew most of the victims who goes that occurred because I knew that the sixties attended they were over I mean that was also Altamonte and I mean not a whole lot else but that was like a cultural watershed moment

but everything's going to be okay because Gal Gadot sang imagine with a bunch of celebrities wearing a Wonder Woman here's what I wonder why you don't shut your trap and a real hero everybody Gadget Argo dinosaurs well I hope one day you join us you know like a weird coat nothing to kill or die for this your f***** rather you get f****** whacked terrible people imagine her husband literally doesn't know how to wipe his own ass imagine your husband literally doesn't know how to wipe his own ass

Obama endorsed by I'm so old are you now know you can't remember anything you see what Donald Trump Jr tweeted or I put it on Instagram that Biden is is like a web browser and here we are it's April but by the time November rolls wrong I don't Abate what does his mind is like a web browser 19 tabs Rovan 17 or Frozen has no idea where the music is coming from and everybody you know but like do it was just like the fact that we have these options are just I don't know I'm a f****** idiot I'm not good politically but I'm not seems like the negative attention it is finally getting to him I saw the clip where he was like your nasty or whatever he was saying your disgrace to the to the reporter I'm number one on Facebook what is a minute who's I know I know I know exactly exactly it's so surreal they just can't be real life so silly about Trump is whether you like him or not he is funny you might be one of those who is that's that's that's that's that's where I'm at we can argue he's doing a good job right now I'm a bad job so right right but guess what this is the proof and shows this little piece of paper that goes like this so you know that they were lying and he flicks the papers what I thought but that's what I thought I thought finally a regular guy like me a regular guy and I was like okay it'll be awhile till that happens again and it came back I mean Trump's like he's like the guy in your family would like Trump in the middle of Greenland! That's f****** funny that's funny he he like retweets memes and s*** weird what is happening as if someone farted and she's not going to say anything but she smells it and like funnel God she does

calendar is it should be on his way out here like we set it up for him to get tested to when he said that yeah what to do and I don't think he's going to podcast today at 1 to get 80 podcast intellectual one and I was like a man drop that one Dominique. Too many conversations were bad but the title had to go I don't know I never I never listen to Impossible you can't do mixed mental Arts something like I might be blacking out I think it was that so funny when he was like I don't like a f****** Ironman thing and it's like a thing that was blinking at in because he was dressed for the scene and he was like this is my life man and it was he was like Bob Seger play it buddy who's listening one of our best friends we talk a lot of s*** cuz it's fun but he knew for a while go I do I tell the door cousin my buddies are coming sassa, do you know who he is but I'm in with a crew and I and I called at The Improv so you know Brian so that's how I know you're good friends of the Prime so I called Brian and I'm pissed I'm like this motherfukers wanted why would you do that they wanted to see me they never seem to stand up like it's fun for me for me to do it for them it's fun for them to see and I call Brian I'm ready to get heated at him to feel like what the pizitz motherfuker and he picks up the phone and before I can even talk he says you ruined the night how do I unblock you got to love a man you got to love him that guy is just a mile a minute and he is insane he's he's way more calm now then when he was younger when he was like 30 years old and imagine he would always had these girls that were useless they were they were like runaways and they were stealing from him what are you doing what are you doing one time I remember he came over my house and we're going to have dinner and we're going to watch something like a fight he came over my house for 10 minutes and it goes I got a party out to go to but I'll be back a little later I might of just tell them to go f*** off pauses who's that old Ian McClelland from the X-Men how does he look I'm right there right that younger straight or Talent thank you does this I want to be able to pull it up immediately and just say Kalen guess what we were talking about I love f****** making fun of friends man shut the door bro College cuz you're okay McDonald's is what you're saying you said that right crew mannequin at Jade f****** crew like it's 2003 have you ever want to color I want everyone it's 80° I got to throw kick. So I'm not going to push my back so my backspace you should never had anybody tank tops parking spot in fashionable but you dude you look like you have a wife beater on bro you have an actual wife

if you I think if you like any age is funny the shooting shooting herself I've never I've only s*** myself once and I was I think 11 yes you're not taking any chances I almost s*** myself and just made it so many times but the last time I almost hit myself and I had to pull over and was when I was going to meet Eminem yeah yeah you have to figure out what to do so you take your socks off and so I was in this the Sprinter van waiting for something and it had been right around the time we like Eminem's album came out or something so he was on my mind and I was like I was thinking about him and then I was just like this is how we wraps and then I just started doing it to the radio and I was just funny I'm going to record it and then I recorded it and it was like it had a lot of hits for me on Mayans great and then like a month later black Twitter took it and and and just was like yo this is this guy says this is how it didn't know nobody who I was there like this is this guy just how Eminem raps and then it got millions of things of hits on Twitter and then it got so big so big maybe it was one of his buddies must have seen it later my buddy text me one of the writers from that show I used to do Undateable and he was like bro Eminem and I was like what he was like you didn't see it check Twitter I checked and he was like I thought this was me and I was like what like that's like 20 year old me nnn. And then I don't know how much you know about this but then Logic the rapper hit me up on my manager called me and he was like so and he was like he's doing a song with Eminem and they are rapping together and Eminem Eminem put you your impression of Eminem on the back of the song and of course that's okay okay some talking logic and logic psych so I have a great idea for the video I want you to play Eminem in this week and now this is the crazy part of queso like I'm talking to logic here and I play this like super fan of Eminem and he's like I have an idea I want to be doing a video and I'm like I'm way ahead of this is we're way ahead of ya and then I take off my wig and I am I have always been an M&M kickstand and this is me doing and you seen the video why do the impression of Eminem at the end deleted doesn't play me I quickly at this is Eminem dressed as me that's Eminem doing me in my car in my driveway two years ago to think of me as a twenty-year-old like it's sinking like finding out and wasn't in him becoming one of my favorite rappers of course and then it's just such a weird f****** thing so that was mind-blowing and then on the way to meet him I ship my f****** I I had to put a sprinter van over and he has no idea but it was so funny I was just one of those things where I was like I think you know how you have your like I think I have Dish it and the next thought is I got a s*** right now so I say to the Sprinter did the driver anybody can you pull off the freeway I got to him like I got time if there's a bathroom near right so I'm like can you pull over and find the first paycheck into the bathroom and he said okay and then few seconds go by and I say hey just so you know like now you know and then there are two ways he can go and one way he can go there is only a hospital okay and the other way he can go is into town so I'm like in my head I'm like it sucks but we got to go to the hospital in the hospital end up mad so I said to the guy hey man pull over and he pulls over and I open the thing in the word Kleenex or I grabbed them and I ran into someone's yard it was in the middle of nowhere and pull down my pants and it all came out it was not was not s*** was not shed it was just it came out it was just like came out like a barking dog and it was over it was over before it even started do you know and and I was so much better and then I use the kleenex and my openers in the thing filming me I'm like bro Eminem and and so so now I feel great I wipe with the kleenex and I just I'm I'm sorry I litter but I left the clinic so what am I going to do a lot and I was like and I will and I left I got back bobcat in their yard like I just had we went and we met Eminem and he had no idea maybe he'll know now sure you seen that show but yeah

Breaking Bad ever and I'm on season 5 now from the quarantine like great you know I'm watching the show it end after 5 Seasons if a show goes beyond Five Seasons it's really hard to maintain after four seasons it is a terrible scene where is choking some girl in a bathtub in like at 1 you can go maybe ya lost lost was another one. It was over like what is this shity ShopRite that used to be amazing people forgot about lost lost was a f****** amazing Juggernaut other show yes I saw the first few seasons and it was just got lost I think it was so we talked about it I feel like people don't cuz JJ Abrams become such a big deal and other talk about him doing other s*** was his only for him unlike back in the day you can access all of them so it's not like if you want to watch Starsky and Hutch 20 years ago like but now they just pile up I know they just keep piling up he's no way you can watch handmaid's tale end Ozark and stranger thing that's why I give up you got to be okay with giving up your bad you got to give up like The Game of Thrones I know you love that the reason why I love Breaking Bad reason why Sopranos I love it so much is because there's f****** Schumer in Hitman there shumaring it sometimes there is zero humor in Game of Thrones style but I just can't be sucked into something 4 5 6 season where nobody trips where nobody is just like awkward at a table and they're just talk about dragons in the most serious problems that real problems people and I'm not saying the shows not right it's absolutely great and I could never f****** put that show together in my life it's all it's awesome but it's just awesome all the time and I need a break from it Sunday the only human that ever came is cuz Jason Bateman is humorous it wasn't like yeah but it's so good the only time I can be involved in a f****** movie or something with zero humor is if it's with like Liam Neeson in it and he's just kicking ass the whole time until the end I feel like he's too old I don't buy them with all these face punches and stuff but yeah of course he's going to I know but okay if you watch a show with dragons in it cuz they're going to duck I know but also if you watch a show with dragons in it but this is more realistic going to punch somebody they're going to duck

are these nails know those are wild boars tusks if you didn't know any better you like they didn't have no idea where they are you would think they're demons could wow Goodyear hey there and then out of nowhere this old lady was like can you guys keep it down because it was a ghost I don't think you should be u-shaped down you make us a meal and afterwards we f*** you in the wild

Diamond Princess cruise ship only 17% of people got it those people are living together very close quarters like a petri dish and then they're all breathing recirculated air only 70% this metal thing which is in the middle of the TARC ocean especially at night time right around literally in the center of the goddamn Ocean Medical and if you fall off the side your dad some people try to kill them set you know what's really this is true some guy tried to kill himself on the boat this is how it said this was they saw him to call them and they Impractical Jokers Cruise a one-on-one cruising with sister perform right mean a bunch of other Comics went and and I we were talking to somebody Cruise people and they said one guy pushes wife off to side this ship that was going through space but space was just like it was almost like there's air around you where you could kick someone off the side and they will just fall to forever right right that's what you doing the same thing would you be terrified spaceship and you hurt someone coughing metal in your little Cube like you are staying a little room ever on the Grand Princess was sequestered in their room honestly how is that different you being on a spaceship in the middle of the sky and you hear someone call in a boat and Ryan make your way across the country app which is the uber wealthy people that are getting on these Cruise animals Mary and I walked in on my cuz anyone check that a block of the guy goes from now I'm like anyone ever checked out at like who's checking out a book cruise ship what is the drug policy on those cruise ships can you bring weed on board and bring whatever you want I mean it depends right now you're in international waters and then you dock like outside of his fake little town in Mexico where they literally bought the beachfront and it's a third world country and they drive you pass roosters and shoeless guys running around what are you showing me so he bought like those hiking bladders that you put in your backpack we drink water out of and he filled them with booze cruise ship where they have all this booze but he wants to Real Deal stop it down baby hammered I mean just the lowest caliber of human being to have ever drawn a breath test cost like if you want to back to some fake town like we went to Costa might look up Costa Maya Mexico Costa Maya Mexico is a place it's owned the cruise ships just owned this little beachfront okay so it's like a trip like you float around the water then you come back and you come back and then they just have these little stands on the beach blow that out people don't care any coronavirus covid-19 travel advisories and view updates from the World Health Organization do to unprecedented volume of travel disruptions refund may take up to 30 days to process which you'll be dead Birmingham available it seems like August 30th is the first one they have available and they're banking on August 30th maybe one dude who lies about it everybody the virus it'll get rid of us as a planet come from a cruise the most disgusting unnecessary it's not an industry to the cruises $100 yeah it's garbage they're not dollars at the vacation for somebody who's f***** so but wait a minute it's not all booze included now you got to pay for book apps where they make their money that's why they send them imagine 5 days of food for $109 encourage you to get off the wagon like what you doing drinking water yeah well I'm clean and sober for 15 years. did you sound like that you go to The Cruise Room Martin 85095 they were first of all I'm an intruder all Intruders is too many and it was crazy and beautiful city and then you have this grotesque cruise ship would like paintings of dolphins on the sides has he was so white trash like America just and then and it would get into the Canal area filled with people and they would drive around it's not nice it's like it's nice but the world economy collapsed good trade-off there's the people got addicted to people coming in the Taurus and people all over the world people wild and people going to want to go up there. Love cruises they think they've discovered of gold mine will be like a hundred 9f people tell you I took a cruise for $160 it's so embarrassing that they would say at least say that do you rate if you go to cruise everyday if you're on a cruise everyday you that you're really only spending like a buck-fifty a week. Carnivals better so we can get a room and you get all the food you can eat that is a crazy deal you imagine it secure for homelessness there Carnival Cruise Line all year round that's the why not it's cuz you're a person but if you're not there be boys and girls you're not there by the level of big on those boats those are big boys and girls like Disneyland for $500

you stand but the Liberals is at home with nothing to do for now and then they're firing at the writing articles I went hard the paint Chinese virus but really correctly termed it would be the Wuhan virus call did the Wuhan virus it would be historically accurate breakfast racist going to do hate crimes wouldn't know if wilham wasn't tryna like they would be like is in somewhere I'm saying call Dad in China what they say the u.s. flow the American bug I don't know I mean I mean their first of all trade negotiations with China Nancy Pelosi all these people even fauci all these guys came out to this is nothing to worry about but Trump is President buck stops with him he could have ordered tests he could have been more Vigilant he didn't do it so I think they were almost everyone the World Health Organization until then had not been criticized the way it's been criticized now of course but you still have to I take if you're the president or in a leadership position you have to be like wait a minute what are we not knowing the CIA wrote a memo saying this could be a big problem I mean we knew we were watching it happen for two months in another country were watching it happen in China big area so you know have a scale up the test so what do you think a lot the him is he the one that is a president it's going to be like the flu in the United States what's a weasel eat I wanted very few cases just right by China but again A lot of it was testing so I mean I think the China Virus issue helps him the flag from any you can't go out during a pandemic with nurses wear garbage bags and falling down to go hey my my press conferences are getting the biggest ratings they've ever then the one we have for this equipment like there's got to be a way and that $1,200 stimulus is not helping anybody but we don't have the ability to get State equipment so staged like bidding for it there's something going on like a lot of states are going outside the system lecture the which part part of the responsibility is to do but it's just it's got to be a better system going forward you like New York and you got to look at what's happening in China you got to go there's a high population density there we should probably will try to shore up some of those hospitals I mean otherwise what the hell does you know but isn't that what a people who run the hospital's administration of the hospital isn't their responsibility to make sure that they have ppen plays the fact these people wearing garbage bags and don't have enough Mass how the f*** don't they have a large supply of Macon and it's not that I don't know I've no idea but they know now there's got to be some responsibility either it might be state government could be local government but there's got to be some responsibility somebody f***** up somebody f***** up supply of Macon and it's not that I don't know I've no idea but responsibility could be local government but there's got to be some responsibilities somebody f***** up

321 later today young Tim Dillon will find out whether or not he has the antibodies yes yes and if I do I'm going to Wuhan to do it like a fun little video in a wet market and eat a bat if I have the antibodies it's not okay is it safe I don't know what this is no one knows we've never been in change your opinion if you if you smoke enough weed and you don't smoke weed we ever weed smoke a lot of weed for a very long time but we'll use when I discovered Alex 13 when I was smoking weed no problem Alex left but I haven't even gotten to them cuz I got the difference of real change my phone number and all these websites he's convinced that leak from a lab there's a lot of people that are saying that in Wuhan obviously they have that lab write whether it's a bio defense or buy a research laboratory something there something is there something in Wuhan where the disease is somebody said there were people selling the animals that they were experimenting on to wet markets like if you're broke and you were guard at the Wu Han lab you like hey I'm just salad bats and dogs for extra money and he sold maybe one of the wrong ones and now we have this issue really where'd you hear that I mean that's on the internet Joe it comes directly from Europe apparently they can tell that intro somehow got no idea. How they can tell they trace it back like patient zero sent me this this whole thing saying this is why I have a flip phone and he's saying that he won't he won't do it. What does it say the early cases in New York originated in Europe Asia so it's some sort of genetic sequencing 15 study sample of the virus taken from 91 New York patients from person to person or sequences can help research out of me does that statement as viruses evolve ill he doesn't feel a goddamn thing transmission these f****** things they Morphin twist a different thing with different people like I was reading about George Stephanopoulos and job his wife he hasn't his wife has it his wife is deathly ill he doesn't feel a goddamn thing that's crazy

feel bad for people that work at at places where they are exposed to this disease and they're getting nothing for it so that's what I told her earlier like if you work at a grocery store and it's like you getting s*** money and you being exposed to that it's like we should do as a country we should do something for you I don't know what it is because we're all depending on those Supply change and those things put meat in the package if you're at beekeeper yeah that's why he was so protective goggles in the s'mores pie they have s'mores pie at Bristol in communicating he's doing what he does but I think they look at a system in Hugo what we just passed that you truly not available giving people $1,200 that can't be the solution gets minimize when it does something stupid yeah it's hard for people to give them for like strolling you can't do it closing off traffic to China early you know in deciding not smart back and forth with stop that and people are really upsetting him that gets the minute creation of Hollywood this is got to love the clintons up actually ran against them while he was just convenient you know it's you almost a new guy like him it's just this is a weird this is a weird thing to run a simulation this is a weird it's crazy is crazy a lot of people in Congress and that's how that's how crazy is God that's so crazy that she's not the worst not there I'll take long I want to see you in a Maga hat on I will go there someone let me know someone email me or call if I have a Hollywood career in my apartment what I want

weirdest motherfukers I've ever been around were home-schooled yeah homeschooling is interested in his 30s homeschool religion that's it that's part of it young man most of them deep real Christian stuff would be their motive the first boss Bill Gates literally has 90 billion dollars he's trying good things with his money and trying to use this money for philanthropy inoculated from vaccines he's making no attempts to control markets no attempts to get a thousand billion. Hundred percent not doing that he's using his foundation to try to help people get get healthy help people get internet help people get running water gladly get a profile legal battle with Bill Gates right now about vaccines what do you think about vaccines do well where'd you read this I read it cuz if this is this is a fact this is the reality you can't just it's a fact it's something that's been reported and it's been credibly report dangerously skewing Aid priorities by promoting corporate globalization priorities by promoting corporate globalization what does that mean quotes around everything everything's in One Umbrella right like his company his his his health initiative all of these things work together and that you know you have to trust that everybody's motives are pure I don't think he's trying to depopulate the world but you know these people stand to make lots and lots of money if people adopt certain vaccines right maybe medically advantageous Maybe not maybe maybe not yeah and this is one of the issues that a lot of the conspiracy theorist bring up when it comes to ventilators the hospital gets x amount of someone gets brought into intensive care and then they get why I'm out of there put on a ventilator so they say well there's a motivation to put people on ventilators perhaps I would hope never but there have been cases of people doing surgery on people that didn't need it there have been cases of people doing things to people and treatments on people it wasn't necessary to provide you know something so they can make make money and they they do things to people just to make money not to make them better thank you under Fire from critics in Indianapolis read it funded two entities that I played a key role in immunization program in a bowl Under Fire for conflict of interest okay it doesn't mean adverse reactions to vaccines 2009 several schools for tribal children Jesus Christ a weird names the man Donna been a part of undivided Andhra Pradesh became sites for observational studies for a cervical cancer vaccine was administered the thousands of girls so it's a HPV disease that's a dangerous vaccine that's a dangerous vaccine the girls were administered by the administer the human papillomavirus vaccine in three rounds that that you're on the supervision of State Health Department officials the vaccine used was Gardasil manufactured by Merck & by 20/10 five of them. estimated 14000 children studying schools meant for tribal children also vaccinated with another band brand of HPV vaccine cervarix cervarix on the nose like that I was get cervical cancer nipple called cervarix cervarix manufactured by GSK earlier in the week the Associated Press reported that scores of teenage girls were hospitalized in a small town north of in Northern Columbia with symptoms that parents respected could be adverse adverse reaction to Gardasil so some people died from this vaccine but it isn't Google HPV vaccine dangerous reactions that I've read that there is a certain percentage whether it's in a 110 Taiwan together whatever when there's billions of dollars and Institute something that's going to be very widely accepted as now necessary for life have to ask questions about it vaccine manufacturers the most common adverse reactions to Gardasil include include pain swelling redness stinging bruising bleeding at the injection site and headache fever nausea diarrhea abdominal pain and it keeps going it's not that bad but you have to watch tell us what is it is it necessary in how things are going to be right here intact Health whatever they are these are billionaires generally they can see TED talks and stuff like that people don't pay attention what they're doing there they influence the political system in ways we have know about it don't know about and you got to watch these people with our nobility have any inkling whatsoever that social media was going to have an impact on political Realms on the way just language what what sort of discourse was allowed what wasn't allowed with no never thought that this was going to be an impact and that these companies would literally earn billions of dollars by selling your data meaning what are you interested in what do you click on a grape podcast the Sam Harris put out I wish I could remember the gas but he was talking about how we didn't know that our data in terms of our search history of the stuff that we go to where we travel to with Google Maps we didn't know that that date was a commodity we signed off on one of the most valuable Commodities in the world that can influence to to influence aspects of our culture the way we communicate what's allowed was not allowed and that's that's squirrelly because these people are a lot of more socially inept I mean all the stuff you were talking about the beginning when you say when they're going to come to you into going to say you need a car do you need to ask you need that the free flow travel how you're allowed to travel around the country in the world a lot of these people with her skates or whoever are going to have a huge input in those laws that are made and they give us that everybody does everything because they think they're doing it for a good reason I bought my house cuz I believe was going to work I bought it cuz I believed in homeownership the point is that it's not my job to have every fact before I speak not when you talk about Bill Gates and vaccines with these vaccines on poor people that's what they call the school a tribal girl school I agree that kids put needles in their face and those little pieces of s*** give me a f****** look cuz I know I shouldn't be there but it's close to my house where have to walk when The Walking Dead are just see other people

and in the middle of all this isn't do f****** this the lady who said that Biden did something to her now she's saying it was sexual assault yeah but if they're smart they're going to swap by now right now they were wrong before like that here's why they're right now and they're wrong before anybody could come at anybody with an allegation for anybody could come in any high-profile when you say believeallwomen you have to live by that you got to believe Amber Heard tip of his finger on his pictures of the finger and is the audio recordings of the doctor looking for the fingertip they're looking for the tip the can't find the tip like where's the f****** fingertip the room oh my God look at the blood and you can hear them talking and she's like violently sobbing in the background, so they decide to give her three times whatever antipsychotic medicine there aren't that she's on so she's on this this dose they decided jacket up to 3x whatever the doses but meanwhile this I've had him me to do Mustangs to leave all women that's all anybody can can approach something you know the Press with a unsubstantiated allegation but somebody's high-profile I mean I understand that women aren't just willy-nilly lying about something but the picture changes when there's somebody is a politically divisive high-profile figure where there is a huge incentive to knock that person off right Brett Cavanaugh weather is Joe Biden is a huge incentive to derail that person so I think in that instance because I do believe that like most women are not just making things up that being said when you introduce politics there's a whole nother level the whole nother letter for sure I mean man who sexually assaulted women also for sure women have lied about being sexually assaulted those two things are they they're not mutually exclusive they go hand-in-hand right people are liars the people lie about the past on April people also or delusional people are also psychotic and schizophrenic people that try to get out of jail rapist you can't believe all people right you also can't believe all men will you also can't believe all women that's right you been Casey Anthony maybe just as bad as Fulton to pressure right close to the finish line that's weird Lady Gaga thing today with him and Lady Gaga where he's talking about how no one should ever put their hand on a woman and I'm watching this with the cuz I guess Lady Gaga was sexually assaulted but who the f*** is ever going to watch that and say you know what I was going to put my hand on a woman but now I'm not going to go back to that thing looks like Hillary Hillary haircut at look at it, looks a little I was just coming out now I guess people throwing it around now but if you were thinking about hitting a woman and Joe Biden is what keeps you from doing it I guess maybe if you're a woman who's being abused it could perhaps encourage you to go to the authorities right they couldn't perhaps I mean right but I would imagine but by saying but him saying no man should ever put his hands on a woman thinks they should disagree Public Service Announcement all that kind of s*** like okay who you doing that for like who who's out there going out. Joe Biden and he's like don't rape me like the people that we have ruling us I have been exposed as like Creations Rana these people everything they say scripted you know all of them are are in the pocket of big business interests and like and and these people have been exposed so now we don't believe anything

do all of us in the political world Joe Rogan's political leanings are like the great mystery in Franklin over Biden all these people I just don't think it's a good idea to take some and put them in one of the most propositions the world has ever known that's what I'm saying is not an endorsement of trump is it is a me saying you shouldn't have a man who's clearly clearly in the throes of dementia I mean I'm not a doctor but when you can't form sentences in public and you forget what you're talkin about and you you're you wander off into these conversations if you're not smoking pot if you're not high do not pills like what's going on well there's cognitive decline he's an older man that has mental issues and you know not to be cruel to him he's he's suffering medically this is it is the real issue and the Democrats want to sweep that under the rug and Trump is already to animal parties already dismissing him I mean that there is a recent thing that Kyle kulinski posted a video on his Twitter talking about this is what happened when you don't discuss the elephant in the room and Trump saying used to do it and ask him a question or something to bind Rodeo I didn't write that he's like that's a democratic operative he didn't read it he probably doesn't even know what's going on right now and he's going to he's going to continue to do that and it's it's such a vulnerable point and I I don't know why the Democrats thought it would be a good idea to take someone who's clearly got a problem and this is the guy we've all seen it that's not normal it's not normal to get like when he's talking about the Creator and he literally loses what he saying he's like you know the thing like the Declaration of Independence and the idea that he's going to be able to get through this and be okay on the other side to run the country for for potentially 8 years is crazy here's a better one Epstein FC's killer nobody thinks that if you have various theories are various stories that people come out and talk about with that one yeah and I just actually yesterday listen to Eric Weinstein solo podcast Jeffrey Epstein I love you listen to caught it he he talks about his kind of conspiracy view of it I wish I was there I would have been faster because Eric is too smart he's almost like to smart is one of those guys you talk to him I call you poor bastard you're burdened your burden trying to make sense of the world around Apes you know and all the trauma of an idiot like we were talking about he still also the 13 the twenty-year-old kid so you seeing hit a few run-ins with authority which makes it which makes him suspicious of authority and I think the r life experience defines that so you can see I've seen in a lot of different ways depending on how you've experienced but if you were there quite a lot of people that have met Epstein basically she took a picture with him your reputation is Tainted he was good me know how many people I don't mean to make it sound positive or negative it is what it is is the devil's going to be Charming so the other thing is he genuinely showed curiosity towards scientific ideas even out there big scientific IT specialist but maybe just look at it from the perspective of is the big Theory the big Theory right is that he's some sort of a intelligence operative right so he's an intelligence operative his job to try to infiltrate the scientific communities and there must have been a directive if he really is an intelligence operative is not like they like hey interest Big Love of science just feel free to do that in the side know what what what the f*** was he doing if he's an intelligence operative what is it that the intelligence having sex with underage girls we can't be that you know this is one reason people believe conspiracy theories is because a lot of them were true with you with the Epstein case like you were one of the first people that mean as a literal you're a professional skeptic and you looked at the evidence you like well you know what this might be a conspiracy you know I might be a conspiracy it's probably a goddamn conspiracy there's been enough of them about that one because after I posted something about the other two cameras broke or whatever somebody wrote me from that prison saying all those cameras are always breaking inconsistent with hanging and much more consistent with someone strangling you include including the actual area where he was hanging from supposedly like it is consistent with someone strangling you from behind not consistent with you hanging by your own weight after Weinstein got his is Harvey Weinstein got his conviction I thought they better have a real suicide watch on this guy play more incriminating to him though you know I think what he's got is probably hey I had sex with all these starlets and turn them into big celebrities and is I bet he probably doesn't want that out especially at this stage of the game nothing I don't think I'm going to make him look good and I think the thing with Epstein is he knew way too much about too many powerful people there's just some so many connections it could be made with that guy and that you know what to do gay people are asking questions that people like Bill Gates don't want to answer prince Andrew or any of these people they like to get you know I don't want to talk about this yeah by Gage but prince Andrew of course find out if it's true Bill Gates flu in the Lolita Express cuz that's what I was reading today there people trying to ask Bill Gates but it's so hard to know what's true and what's not true today that's the thing is there's so much data and so I mean one of the things that's really sad about the loss of respect for mainstream journalism and mainstream media is what we count can't count on them and who's regulating the independence who's regulating these websites who's regulating his people that are just you know so called independent journalist they're just tweeting things and finding things putting things up on their website says it's so hard to tell who's telling the truth and who's not do you want to see people piss in America fuc with football f*** with LSU football or Georgia football college football see what happens you think things are bad now f*** with the college football you know this is a weird time to because right before the election you know election comes in November or imagine if it was going on right now and elections like next week your boy Bernie dropped out yep Rap by Nate Bean Trump know that's your bath that's the guy it shows you how crazy the system is that they wanted him but they wanted Vidant it to to be there guy that they don't they can't admit that he's in cognitive decline all the time I speak for a living I f***** up all the time phuckable time to but we're also talking Library hours and hours and hours at a time if I had a prepared thing that I was doing like I stand up I don't fuk up in a sharp as f*** if you haven't worn those conversations they're asking you if someone wants to ask me questions about things that I understand like MMA or like comedy like if you want to ask me questions about things that I think about it and talk about all the time if you're blocked on but yeah I can talk to you and really clearly about those things and make a lot of sense he can't dad about politics and he's been a politician forever and that's your s*** he's he's and you know he's a guy who's suffering is in Decline and they going to try to win them out and whoever his VP is weather is Kamala Harris or whatever, maybe whoever it is but that's who you're voting for because of the timing of this right now we're in the s*** right where the April s*** is the worst time of the corona lot of people are dying this a slight drop off in New York people dying less today than yesterday slight drop off yesterday from the day before so things are looking pretty good California I can be hopefully everything's up and running again economy starts coming back on track Trump makes a couple of great speeches about Biden is more indecline it's not going to get better nose those two face off Trump's going to light him up like a Comedy Central roasts already dismissing him he's there he's like he's asleep Biden saying like someone said Biden said that he didn't write that was Democratic operative he probably doesn't even know what it says destroy a three-year-old is true

Burton birthday I came along to do a show think of the 80s or 90s you have to pitch it to network I have them approve it only bringing Riders you look and how long would that take to evolve into it a legit show there's going to be a pilot then test well down to seem aggressive production company and said what I want to do is smoke weed and talk a lot of s*** and say things I don't really mean by think it's funny the time that I regret it and I'm going to drink a lot of fights I'm at my feet dumbass friend, debate important topics is an author's yeah everybody what let me know they like you because of who you were before they came along before they came along you were cussing and then they want to do a sport didn't know what to do is they want to do a sport show us then they brought me in and go they go so we know what the funny kid what if we reach what if we replaced Brian with Michael Rapaport set the way dresses I can fix that that's crazy what a bunch of dummies we need half and I went oh that's not happening the last month and I think we're not Tobago that's fine we're going to go do our own thing and take all the money doing okay and they how do I hear about the same podcast just write out December and I went by can't do that do I know that the listener know I'm leaving he was don't do that cool next day I go in the pipes up so in December are contracts ups and 1/2 are s*** I tried going back the next day and we finish security out front they would let me in because my last day at Fox and reel into the only talent I think they own you the idea that they think they accept 50% but what are you doing what are you doing to my face cast to my face I don't say his name he goes just how you have your black belt in fighting of my black belt in entertainment TV no idea what you're referring to, Italy now out of the percentage that they really deserve give you the platform when you get more views did what now why would you get 50% as a guide on a man send my podcast to be part of a network not too long ago I was like what are you talkin about 50% if you want 50% what kind of has to be 50% cuz it's both of us right so it's like there's two of us yes so your party show unpunished show we need each other with the carrot together should be 50% and you're saying I can do without you. Just doesn't make any sense but that's what they used to do with TV shows nothing about Hawaii Five-O like the production company has a deal with a network and they put it together and everybody gets paid and the people that are putting it on television have a giant chunk of that that's the studio executives what are they doing what are they doing with their they taking your stuff and they're the critical mechanism that is necessary to get you on television will now the world is television our heads are through the f****** holes and now we're looking out this open-air there's no need for someone to take 50% anymore fun here fun here if they don't get it though these guys went through the fox system people went through the ABC system then went through the CBS system and if they were in that system 20 years ago this was the system this is you make deals you put together shows you're you're getting it on the air it's for your you're getting you're giving your very valuable it's a very important thing to if you got on CBS back and you know Tucson Game Change was a very important thing it sent but it doesn't make sense on the internet the internet is everybody's it's like everybody has a CVS like these gentleman who made that video on the coronavirus they don't have a network they don't need makes sense on the internet the internet is everybody's it's like everybody has a CVS like these gentleman who made that video on the coronavirus they don't have a network they don't need to do is get to one of these

and Jeffrey Epstein's house in New York City which was $70 worth $79 Bill Clinton and address them with Hillary Clinton's dress well whoever it could be either one so weird that was in his living room it's so weird so he had a painting of Bill Clinton dressed up like a woman. George Bush went to have you seen that it's almost like they held stuff over these guys to the point where they get umili a tormach in them so if you like if bill came over to his house he would see that he would say like I don't care if you're the former president you're my b**** I still don't think you should got more to lose than it does to gain cuz if he says something like that all those Hollywood Starlet they'll suck my dick sort of reinforces that games illegal and so the whole reason why he's in jail for the rest of his life is because that games illegal if he's already in there so if he goes hey celebrity she did this with me for years has Jeffrey Epstein's Hollywood pipeline ran straight to Harvey Weinstein have the rest of his life out if I ran some of them dubious websites f****** Wonder Woman really funny way of putting it to his reputation Rakuten movies I put them in movies and you imagine how stunned he must have been like with imagine your banging like some of the most famous hottest women in the world and you you're this monster you look terrible you look terrible an experiment right so vile belly Room comedy special that he did with his walker got it so crazy he's so foul looking but if a guy like him like grew up in that Hollywood System that's probably he's probably you know like a really extreme version of how they all do agree he's not the first one know that cat did the casting couch is an expression for a reason correct was real cute p**** channel to this day I mean but in but we know that that happened right it's yeah it's gross 100% as a historical reality the casting couch was a real thing make him famous and you can make a lot of money if you make good choices you smart about how you do it take an addiction just enough to keep making movies and he's with a bunch of young starlets he just looks like this monster

Nesmith fights home Intruder man charged with criminal trespass tell me about that the guy was tough to like Smith said and smaller than him said the guy was like a hundred seventy pounds said no normal human being is is able to fight like that he said I am by no means a bad attitude on the planet listen he's top 100. All the humans on the planet Anthony top 100 baddest motherfukers but he's a regular Joe and I had a hard time dealing with him and he took everything every punch every knee every elbow he took every single one of them and kept fighting me at one point Smith said his mother-in-law brought him a kitchen knife was she held to have Herman who continue to fight him he's choking unconscious have been said hey I'm sorry as he walked by after things calm down a man I'm sorry I'm sorry try to kill you computer and had swelling on his face yeah did he eat but he didn't say anything on that the answers beat the s*** on Skypark yet but the guy took it the fact that the guy only weigh 270 pounds and it says Smith fights at 205 lb is walking around 2:30 got a future in fighting to I want to let you know I mean I think after he fought Jon Jones he got the rub and he looked fantastic integrate with Gustafson if you remember that fight he could have easily won that fight with that dq8 remember that but I think John hit him and they go do you want you want to continue fighting do you want to come and go see him in the Loney I forgive you remember that used to continue the fight oh yeah I remember it vaguely he's a badass man he's very very smart guy if if you're going to act out and make the news Now's the Time just like with John like doesn't think like you would like even went to Kobe's deathlike have you heard anyone talk like that used to before this came out was it was so happy with, and what's really even mentioned it because I was so focused on this f****** virus interesting

I don't think movie theaters going to be dead because I think everyone likes the the experience of leaving the house right but they like Blockbuster to was great you get to go out of the house you can pick whatever you want like he's a little flirty you know that you're not really going to watch the movie cuz you plan on deep Dickens write get those red vinyl you'll let them come pick some stupid movie that you never had a wife you thinking of the mall and you're going to do I'll never forget my mom still while other forget when we get to the front door like you have late fees of $275 that had the pornos Section 8 to kick open like the outdoor Josey Wales yeah they had to have the little the curtains you know The Outlaw Josey Wales when do I was kicked open the saloon door Joey Diaz is famous rapper with one of the biggest reference is always kicking open saloon doors like The Outlaw Josey Wales but they always had beads don't forget to stay at around 10 or 11 just a peek back there till they were velvet like crushed velvet maroon curtains no one would be friendly knowing make eye contact the hell's so weird just picking up boxes look around like you're like you looking at normal mortgage good friends with Tasia they beat off Boris kawliche some dudes were so scared and so scared of the fact they beat off have to hide their s*** in the woods all my God headed out then you know it was never existed before so when I was a kid when I was in high school that's when the VHS tape became common in households did my neighborhood at least I don't remember what the year was the invented the VHS VHS tape but I remember the first time I ever saw a TV on a thing push into the television and watch it and play it and then people figured out that this is a good way to watch people f*** just after high school and there was also s*** like Barnyard Betty with it was in this poor fetal alcohol syndrome baby that grew up to be a f*****-up lady whose on drugs is having sex with all these different Barnyard animals oh my God I was at my friend Billy's house and we went down to the basement or he's making sure that he's like look out at the door but watch his chick suck off a German shepherd and not all my God this is crazy because you know we were like 20 or something like that and we couldn't believe that they sent to any twenty-year-old kid if you said you know that there's ladies and if you pay him enough money off dogs pics of bloat dogs VCR was released in 1977 the United States Faces of Death came out the next year and then a 1985 teacher showed it to his class in Escondido High School will do I have to see it now and I was in 9th grade and 1981 that was my first year as a high school student so that was like right when that was kind of kicking in when you know when it was getting if you know a new invention like a thing that you can play tape and you can watch movies in your house I should take took a year to back that came out in 1975 so it was you had to only use their stuff right and apparently was way better and smaller few times so you saw me later on top yellow plastic at the gym lifting ESP because it looked ahead and wouldn't forget but I was a big deal to skip skip I remember when they first figured out how to do that in cars outside they nailed it because before if you were driving in your car and you hit a bump your f****** music would ruin the song up like the 50's really old

I was a conspiracy not or if I was a country that was conspiring to take over the world this is not a bad way to do it I don't think that's happening right now I want to be real clear but it's kind of the same result that we're experiencing right now we're the ones being forced to shut down with who-knows-what consequences but it's also the right thing to do so we're all like whoa you know it's another one of those things about being a person the right thing to do still feels crazy since I was like all right we're just going to sit around and I guess that's what you have to do you know it's kind of in one way encouraging is so many people are willing to stay home and people aren't rebelling like f*** you this is my country I'm going to work I'll take a chance everybody's going to get it anyway f*** you weigh less people doing that when you consider that the government is controlling 320 million people pretty crazy almost everyone's complying with staying home is only a few essential businesses and we're going to have to I think really have spacesuits to leave the house and work goddamn not going to probably be like this is metal plastic thing that wash off you're sort of saying like I I look into the future to see where we're headed and I don't see a really see much out there cuz I don't know where it is but it's not anything good cuz there's nothing there and I'll see like going to the movies again seems like that's probably close to out movies were already dying anyway they've already opened up the Billy like put those right into your house between bucks perfect way better yeah I don't know that it's just that those are all the fun things we used to do so I f*** it's also once everything's in place where they can treat people effectively and they have the adequate number of ventilators then are we going to go back to the way things were or we going to have new standards and place I don't know I don't know man that they look they did an unprecedented thing they locked down the entire country to save people's lives never happened before we're in New Territory and you know it's dangerous when a moron like me is making sense when I'm one of the people talking about something like this give us your take on how we got here because this is it's been very strange obviously the president completely miscalculated what was going to happen in the way he was explaining it to the news he was kind of saying that it was just a few cases and they'll be gone and now obviously New York City shut down the entire country is separated from each other everybody is isolating at home give us your take on how we got here will let you know that the truth is we knew this was coming or something like it we had a heads-up and and even a even a heads up before last year because this is now our third major coronavirus disaster of the 21st century we had what's called * severe acute respiratory syndrome in 2003 that started in China terrible epidemic in Toronto and actually took the the Rolling Stones to do a concert to bring the economy back to Toronto in 2003 and then it was mayor's coronavirus infection and 2012 and this is the third one so we actually do realize that coronavirus is we're going to become a new thing and we embarked on a big rotavirus vaccine program a decade ago and each time Parker so the point is this sung fortunately is becoming me normal for the globe is terrible coronavirus epidemics and we saw this one coming up and at the end of 2019 in China and I knew we're in for trouble because that's what coronavirus is do weather to was this the other two SARS and Mayors now we called this new Once ours too so the reserves one than mares and stars to so both stars 1 and mirrors made you so sick and that's such a high case fatality rate that anybody who got it was almost immediately hospitalized and basically out of the community that the difference with this one ironically is it is it's pretty lethal it's about five to ten times more lethal than regular hello seasonal flu but also there's a big group of people who don't get very sick at all and so you have this Serta Perfect mix where it's not the most lethal infection we've ever seen it's not the most transmissible infection we've ever see but it's high enough in both categories that are combined in this very toxic waste so what you have is you have a group of people who are getting very sick or in the Intensive Care Unit like older people those with diabetes and high tension even a group of younger people who are getting it very sick and then a larger group who only getting mildly sick who could still walk around the community and be out and about and stores and restaurants and infecting everybody and so this is what caused the problem it's a it's highly transmissible news on big group of people walking around spreading it and a smaller subset but a big sub said we're getting very sick and even dying in intensive care units what's playing on in New York City right now. What it whatever is stopping people from funding medical research I hope they open up the floodgates now I hope they realize you need more of these guys and then you a lot more money and they need to be way ahead of this s*** we have because this is one pandemic there are multiple different scenarios of how this happens again sure will there was another guy that died recently on a bus that they are identified as having a completely different bars in China but he got a virus that specifically hasn't jump from human-to-human it's only jump from rats to humans in the way it jumps from rats to humans is by ingesting animal feces or animal urine you know animal fluids somehow or Another live bat fluid in his body in and was dying on this bus and they pull the guy off and then you test positive for a totally different coronavirus it's killing him you think would happen I can imagine some guy gets Corona and he's got it f****** bad systems are shutting down this is it he's going to die and he wants to have sex again but he doesn't want to get anybody sick as dogs I think I cracked it and what if it's only his dogs but if everybody has to come to his ass in front of his dog we tried f****** a bunch of different dogs is there's no way to recreate this thing as we f*** Marty Marty but I thought Marty now we're all going to have to f*** Marty people everyday outside to Marty's house killing people to come too many times for Marta needs a break does it help if he blows you have put peanut butter on my deck see what happens no no no everybody's like the pounds or empty every dogs oh my God realize that freedom is itself an export and one of the great dangers is the China has been exporting the benefits of freedom from the United States into an authoritarian system so that they get the benefits of Both Worlds they get the benefits of our middle finger which I think is the secret of American innovation and they get the benefits of authoritarianism where they can do things that we can't because they can order people to do the unconscionable so my feeling is I'm on team civil liberties and team civil liberties have to be somewhat nationalistic more militaristic more command-and-control like who would you take orders from so in a lot of fields I take orders from you you're the big dog in the space you know and to the extent that you wanted to coordinate something I would use my channel I would subordinate to you and I would want sometimes people to subordinate to me if I have if I was taking a lead on something important when we have this fear of leadership because we're all so individualistic that we never want to take a note like whenever I'm training a new assistant or something one of my best practices is can I get your coffee you know it's very important to show that the ability to ask to serve somebody else in the ability to lead art I have to be a follower to be a leader in a liter to be a follower you can't you shouldn't be one of the other we need right now a more war we need more of a war footing we need for President we need we need War Senators we need people of this mentality because the nap is coming to an end and I do think Nancy Pelosi needs to resign and Bill de Blasio needs to resign I think that this Administration you know made some good moves and fumbled the ball and I believe that past administrations made some good moves and fumbled the ball and the imperative is to stop back propagating what you want to have what you want us to do like defeat prisoner's dilemma and come up with a lie that would cause us to act selfishly ration like if you tell me that a mask is actually more dangerous in my hands because it becomes germ-filled then the ideas I okay so I guess I won't use the mask yeah because you lied to me in the idea that that's what you're trying to do to get you to do what I want like if you tell me that the mask is actually more dangerous in my hands because it becomes germ-filled then the ideas I O Okay so I guess I won't use the mask yeah because you lied to me in the idea that that's what you're trying to do your fingers trying to say what would need to be true to get you to do what I want

who's originated the Surgeon General right now at Redfield I don't know I'm sure he's a competent physician I also think that there's a whole thing about pretending that masks don't work masks don't work in the general population please don't buy them or Healthcare people need them that is nonsense it's deadly nonsense deadly physician killing nonsense everyone I mean what we have is a situation in which we knew that the mask and personal protective equipment supplies are wildly off to say nothing of ventilators in ICU beds and now what do we do about it so we have rules like please don't bring masks to work because it's the patients or please don't wear homemade masks because they might actually be more germ-filled virus felt so you're back propagating what you wish to be true to get the action that you're looking for what we have is a prisoner's dilemma for everybody runs and buys up masks who like the people we need to be protected most of the heroes were actually dealing with covid patience and taking huge amounts of viral load so there's no question in my mind that those those are the people that is a society if you would level with us like there's a speech to give which would go like this my fellow Americans as Readiness are I am forced to Tender my resignation effective Friday this week I have failed to heed many of the warnings in our academic literature because our reserves are severely depleted imperative that we not suffer further loss of life and therefore I am forced to make an unusual request having failed you I'm asking everyone who stockpiled masks for personal use to think about doing something sacrificial for the good of us all our heroes are currently exposed to the coronavirus and taking huge amounts of viral load and I'm asking you to donate any unused masks that you have to this population as we are desperately trying to reach how much are stocks please continue to shelter-in-place and recognize that the benefit to you is minor in the benefit to us all as major and this will be following your heroic impulse to bring us back together as a nation this is it if that's where we are then it's time to revolt revolt I'll let her know what we need people to visit civil Civil Disobedience to put our Healthcare people I have not been off my property for weeks the reason I'm here in part is to do what little I can and it's very little to support the people who we who are literal heroes are life-and-death putting this out themselves In Harm's Way idea for Hospital administrators abusing our physicians and nurses makes me apoplectic with rage the fact these people are told that they can't talk to the press and they write to me in there their family and the children write to me my mother was asked to do this my Uncle Works in a prison he's not allowed to wear a mask is not allowed to bring a mask I send a message Baba blah blah blah for us to remember that we have the ability to turn over government this is we are so unprepared as a nation and we've been sold out for so long by our self-appointed leadership class who nobody wants that we either remember who we are and how this game is played at me this is like this is a pre-war footing and this can easily lead to war the transmission mechanism is you have everybody stay indoors because you're worried about deaths of accountability which is you know I don't think they're worried about the number of deaths I think they're worried about debts that the result from triage and that would result in career-ending action this is what you would say on the phone that you think that's really what's bothering them yes and then but if y'all have to stay home while they replenish our supplies then the economy goes into recession recession can become depression depressions the darn conflict in our armed conflict leads to war that would be a transmission mechanism from these stupid masks something that nobody can handle and my here's the thing we are coming up on Passover and we Jews have a tradition that I wish everybody had which is that we read one stupid story every goddamn year just a drill it into your head to make sure it's always fresh and this is when it's time to leave when it's time to change don't wait for the bread to rise this is what I say to every Jewish person like are you sitting around waiting for the bread to rise because they all know the story which is you eat the goddamn that's because the people who waited for the bread to rise are no longer with us their descendants are no longer with us and it is time to revolt this leadership class is unworkable to reason that you and I both came to the word Tulsa instantly. I don't think you took much deliberation is because Tulsi would know what to do when she's also the least encumbered she's at least burdened by everybody everybody in the system hates me yeah you know in the whole point where she would put heads on Pikes this is the moment for heads on Pikes and its importance of Vengeance thing the importances what is the cost to you killing people by failing to heed the academic literature if if a supply was was depleted and you didn't replenish it what is the cost to you there's lessons in how other countries have of you this and how they chose to act particular South Korea South Korea acted quicker smaller population than us but a much more impact the virus they shut things down very quickly yeah yeah and making sure that they visited anybody was known I mean they had a different system and it is people like you and me who loved our civil liberties I believe it in part Singapore's Draconian Society lives off of things that only we can do to our freedom so you have to realize that freedom is itself an export and one of the great dangers is the China has been exporting the benefits of freedom from the United States into an authoritarian system so that they get the benefits of Both Worlds they get the benefits of our middle finger which I think is the secret of American innovation and they get the benefits of authoritarianism where they can do things that we can't because they can order people to do the unconscionable so my feeling is I'm on team civil liberties and team civil liberties has to be somewhat nationalistic more militaristic more command-and-control like who would you take orders from so in a lot of field I take orders from you you're the big dog in the space you know and to the extent that you wanted to coordinate something I would use my channel I would subordinate to you and I would want sometimes people to subordinate to me if I have if I was taking a lead on something important we have this fear of leadership because we're all so individualistic that we never want to take an order like whenever I'm training a new assistant or something one of my best practices is can I get your coffee you know it's very important to show that the ability to ask to serve somebody else in the ability to lead art I have to be a follower to be a leader in a liter to be a follower you can't you shouldn't be one of the other I need right now a more war we need more of a war footing we need a war President we need we need War Senators we need people of this mentality because the nap is coming to an end and I do think Nancy Pelosi needs to resign and Bill de Blasio needs to resign I think that this Administration you know made some good moves and fumbled the ball and I believe that past administrations made some good moves and fumbled the ball and the imperative stop back propagating what you want with what you want us to do like defeat a prisoner's dilemma and come up with a lie that would cause us to act selfishly rash look like if you tell me that a mask is actually more dangerous in my hands because it becomes germ-filled then the ideas I go okay so I guess I won't use the mask because you lied to me to get you to do what I want what he saying so if I say for example let's imagine that I don't want to put seatbelts in cars okay and I say you know Joe a seat belt could trap you should your car go into the water off of a bridge you could infect die from the seatbelt because you become entangled it would not be able to save yourself with this map thing but that masks actually can contain are viruses and they can pull. Can kill you but you believe that that's what I'm trying to do I'm trying to say is a related rate problem let's talk about everybody gets sick and dies from contaminated masks everybody gets sick and dies from a false feeling of safety let's just go through a huge list of every bad thing or in terms of I don't breathe in either aerosolizer droplets whatever blah blah blah The Chew are real but you're focusing on like the seatbelt deaths of entanglement because you actually have a covert agenda and like and you're going to think I don't know exactly but if I had to speculate we're terrified of triage deaths deaths that occurred simply because we didn't have enough resources that was mandated to be stockpiled or talked about in the literature that's one thing that is what is liability which is all we were following the surgeon general's recommendation at the time now somebody suddenly found you know I like all the masks in the world I think that the Surgeon General would suddenly said the science would become conclusive because there would no longer be a worried about liability you just get those masks that meetball you'd get the mask to the people who need them and then you stopped transmission slow transitions transmissions by there's also a lot of just figuring it out as they go along there is figuring this out as it goes along as regards The Mask I believe that everybody knows that masks save lives on balance they know that the people who need the most have very weird rules there's this whole thing that the States versus the federal government there's this issue about price gouging and price mechanisms there all sorts of things stopping the mask problem from being sorted out one of which is the masks that are produced in China in the fact that we may have sent masks and personal protective equipment to China so there's a huge issue of accountability and responsibility and that we're back propagating our response how much we quarantine and how much we locked down what are we saying about about what the why the positions are being told not to wear masks when they're seeing patients A Deadly nonsense structural nonsense and it people like you and me don't call this out using like these crazy channel that we have then the narrative just stands until partially what we're doing is a parallel sentence making operation to the standard media which is Twitter said we will now be removing tweets if you contradict official authoritative Health sources so that's just what I did surgeon general's line sense-making operation to the standard media which is Twitter said we will not be removing tweets if you contradict official authoritative Health sources so that's just what I did surgeon general's lying cdc's line who is lying come at me

I have not been off of my property more or less in two weeks so it's crazy to see another human being the dogs get close to each other go back like let's say the end of July everyone announces we got this thing lockdown we have a viable treatment it's no different than the flu and get you this chloroquine with the Z pack or whatever the current treatment is tongues were almost like just acquaintances I don't think that's a good idea still cold and cooties and all that but I think I think everybody's losing their s*** they definitely are I've been talking to a lot of friends that are on the extremely cautious I'd say that and you know they're not going anywhere and they're wearing gloves and masks when they step outside their house to go do some in the backyard and they put the gloves and mask down and they spray it with Lysol and come inside and it's not healthy and it is also healthy I mean the idea that we have not been tested in so long it's good to remember also that the stuff is live and real and it is always been live and real and you know if it was possible to live without the stuff that would be one thing but the 75-year nap that we've been in since 1945 is itself the greatest threat to all of us in our preparedness is just a wonderful indicator where you actually get to see this is the koala your experts this is the quality of your leadership this is what they look like when put under stress that's true right that is a good that's a good thing and I'm impressed with the medical community I'm impressed with the people that are recognizing that this is a huge problem not so impressed with the administration of all these hospitals that have them prepared and terms of like masks and ventilators and a lot of these other things not so impressed with politicians but also it just seems like everyone you said was in this nap State and hadn't really been tested and really globally no one has been tested since the pandemic of 1918 like this right 68 which I had I had the Hong Kong flu and 57 we're sort of the best parallels to this you got the Hong Kong flu and I had the Hong Kong flu and was sick as a dog I was like three two from 68 to 70 remember it oh yeah and I was in San Francisco my Grandma had to come up from LA to care for me it was it was bad there's like one of my earliest memories and 1657 I think are the best comprable to this before we go back to 1918 and almost nobody remembers these things because very weird many people that never heard of The Conch conch flu when I started talking vaguely remembered it until you just said it one of my 52-54 remember the Hong Kong flu but I do you know what I mean like I don't remember it personally know you as a health geek are up on these sorts of things that so you understand the ways in which you know for example you can never flew where the I guess the cytokine storm you know is you're either the threat from your immune system is like bigger than the virus itself or all of these various things that happened but I think that this let's call it the big nap the big nap is itself the greatest threat to us in this is this is bad but it is also a shot across our bow and it ain't this what was happening in my mind when I was on here talking with the twin nuclei problem of selling Adam we didn't stop history is not like we're past Atomic were like we figured that out we just we just hit the pause button for a little while we hit snooze and the fear is also that nefarious play will take this opportunity to a road civil civil rights to Road civil liberties and then China to gain power in the US market to gobble up a lot of stocks why everything is down and try to increase their stake in our economy and try to push you know his hands lovingly around her throat because our Elite have been moving into greater and greater States of China dependence right and so with the BDSM community refers to his breath play and I don't like it I run plays like he kind of like half choke somebody how do you know that not that huge hierarchy rules and my claim is is the China is they Supply so much of our stuff we moved all of our manufacturing base into these crazy supply chain and we are completely dependent on a strategic rival and inner China is very careful if you remember when they when they hosted the Olympics to have these amazingly impressive displays that are always friendly what they're really saying is we have our s*** together and you don't and our system was hackable it was open as long for example if you have a company that has Duty twitch shareholders that the directors of the company must do whatever whatever is in the best interest of the shareholders and everything else doesn't matter then you can have a situation where a director has to move things to China because that is in the best interests of the shareholders even if it's absolutely not in the best interest of the United States this is what Ralph Gomery who used to head this phone Foundation once said in an address I was at at the National Academy of Sciences he just said as a director I am incentivized to do exactly the wrong thing for the United States of America so I'm going to put one hat on and tell you as an American we must not move all of this over to China and then I'm going to put my directors hat on I'm going to vote to move everything over to China because I have no choice and so you know Essence the smart good people all 11 of them we're always fighting this thing about you cannot become to China dependent and it's during the big nap there was no way to make this argument convincing you couldn't say look we have a serious strategic Problem by your gate continuing moves to bring China in is the solution to every equation we can't balance and that that is really the problem is that there wasn't any ability to say we are way too dependent on a strategic rival you saw this at the beginning of the pandemic everyone was afraid of what I don't want to be. Is that a phobic I don't appear like Chicken Little until all of our friend the nutcases the marginal weirdos the supposed grifters and gadflies are the people who most got this one right and early and all the respectable people like Nancy Pelosi telling people please go to Chinatown to celebrate the Chinese New Year Bill de Blasio of New York City despite Coronavirus get out there let you know. Leave your lives don't don't let this thing hold you back these people need to resign Nancy Pelosi should resign is one thing to say we don't have enough information about this it's another thing to say take the information that's coming in disregarded and get back in there and keep fueling the economy this is exactly our leadership class there probably think about this in short-term you can Onyx be the long-term implications of us off shelter play nobody can compute the consequences of not one person in the world knows what happens when you run this experiment the made-in-america argument was always like sort of frivolous almost xenophobic like why do you want things made in America what do you care do you not do not like people from other countries do not want to buy things from other countries it was like this made of it made in America thing was like people to disregarded it in a lot of ways but when you realize that all of our medical supplies like Soma Tomar Electronics so much of all of the stuff that you need to kind of keep things exactly the way they are it's cheaper to make it over there because they will like what we saw at Foxconn but they put Nets around the building to keep people from jumping off and eat the weirdest things people trying to argue that the suicide rate at Foxconn was essentially the same as a suicide rate in the general population talking about that's where they work there's Nets around where they work is so many people where they work jump off the building to end their life because their life sucks that bad that they kill themselves at work so rare it is to kill yourself at work probably pretty f****** rare you know, that is where you have to put Nets around the building and look we're getting really tired of people going to the roof and jumping off cuz it's the easiest way to kill yourself they're going to get more creative yeah the problem is we are all hooked up to this or cheap product profits when we can't figure out how to innovate enough to actually create the juice in her own system and therefore we have to rationalize so we've gotten into this idea of every year we have to have a newer better piece of electronically if you had to go the rest your life with an iPhone 11 how much would you suffer not that much although I would say that many of us are not that excited about the next phone that would that that itself is an antiquated rabbit what I'm saying is like to why can't they make it so that you can just fix this I mean like who the f*** fixes their phone you don't fix your phone you bring it into going back to like the questionnaire I think you not depression-era thinking it's like why can't things be sustainable the plants obsolescence in the need to update so that you never a problem if you need growth to power your system then in a weird way it makes sense not to build the optimal phone because if you were to build the optimal phone and then people stop renewing everything your system stay in your system weirdly breaks down so it makes sense that the levels of the phone that you wouldn't want to do that but weirdly in aggregate if you can't start innovate if you can't figure out a restart innovation in a big way now you're stuck with either having to learn to live in steady-state which none of us Americans have no program for living study state we need growth that was the whole point of the embedded growth obligation idea that it's suffused throughout every institution every Pension Plan assumes growth right all right so now we have this problem where we don't have the growth and we need the growth and then in a weird way the planned obsolescence is like fake growth it means that we're going to re-buy our phone even as if they were now highly Innovative so there's like a weird way in which we become dependent on nonsense where we don't have the growth and we need the growth and then in a weird way the planned obsolescence is like fake growth it means that we're going to Bree by our phones even as if they were now highly Innovative so there's like a weird way in which we become dependent on nonsense

2004 have there been plans implemented to clean up and also restore waterways and all the different absolutely absolutely in now there's like a whole they realize this is an issue until there's a there's precedent there's very much so and and that largely came from what we saw you know in those early years the 2004 first stop on down there on Dexter Canyon Creek and then what we had on Ciara's all my partner was shot 2005 about then we started also see the bear poison Cindy's grows like the carbofuran bottles and just to give a background this stuff is so deadly it was made as an insecticide rodenticide just to kill anything that you put on any type of Agricultural Product and it was made originally back and I think like the 50s for legitimate Agriculture and then when they found out how toxic it was NEPA Bandit from you sore even possessions felony to have in the country and use it anywhere without special licenses through legitimate channels Ali banat like 15 years ago cuz I was so nasty but because it does keep everything off the marijuana plants I mean nothing can even get near it without dying almost instantly they still get in third world countries they can get it in Mexico and it gets smuggled across the border with the groups that the drug trafficking groups because it's so effective regardless how poison it is and we were starting to see more and more of that stuff as we were starting to grab more of a specialty to do in this job more you know thoroughly and safely and get into the cleanup of this is one of them I brought this up with Dan Crenshaw the other day and I talked about you and because he's against federally making marijuana federally legal and I said one of the problems with it being illegal is des and I was explaining these grow-ops at for the rest of the country where marijuana is illegal by the vast majority it like what was the number that you said the percentage that was his grown in California that's illegally sold through the rest of the country 70% marijuana population or marijuana product that you're buying if you live in in place like South Dakota went wherever I don't even know it's legal in South Dakota where is the illegal they're buying it from here exactly and it's because one of the reasons because our state laws say that won't first while we're close to Mexico so the cartel members can come up really quickly drive and then the other problem is that our state laws when we made marijuana legal recreationally here weeks severely lower the penalty for any legal grow-op became a misdemeanor correct that was the that was the thing you know when we started the the Department's special team that the spec ops marijuana enforcement team that had more goes into part of my job is being the co-founder of that and a team leader was Outreach so I was speaking to legislative groups before we legalize under prop 64 than the tide or medicinal marijuana laws that that came about that same time and I was talking to conservation groups that you and I would be I'll be part of preservation animal rights groups high school kids new assemblies right watch out you know if you're using weed make sure you're not using this stuff cuz it's so nasty things like that and my whole point was if we're going to regulate guys we see a common let's just regulates Mark let's not lessen any penalties for the trespass grow that the cartels are doing our public lands of private lands and also the other game groups and there's there's other groups you know that to a smaller extent but unfortunately when we did regulate and all that was passed two years ago they did Watertown so public land cultivation went to like you said it a felony to a misdemeanor and if you're at juvenal cultivator on public-private land in one of these juvenile you know cartel members and there's a lot of young ones learning if it's an infraction and that took a lot of emphasis away from that part of the problem and left us out there basically alone with a couple other agencies to fight it for the average person that would sound before you knew about the cartel that would sound like a good idea at will hey if marijuana is legal was probably had a big deal exactly the other problem is these people that are buying this marijuana in the rest of country it's highly likely that they're going to have some of that pesticide on it right and how bad is that stuff is that stuff ever killed someone from smoking this it legal marijuana we don't know if it's killed anybody directly because by the time it gets distributed throughout the country does dissipate a little bit but it's still highly toxic to put it in perspective about three years ago we had two Federal officers back he's not even in California in a public land grow that had all that toxic on it so they have cartel grows out there they do they do they actually Crow we have them in about 20-25 or 27 other states to a much lesser extent and something we need to look at is California I mean we're one of only six Mediterranean climates in the whole globe so we are great weed growing stages like our wine industry man we got great great weather for it so we can grow outdoor indoors I mean February almost December right and that's why it's growing here and that's why the black market Dothan you know the private land communities in the cartels are everywhere across the country with this stuff but they'll go wherever they can until you know diversify the network so we do have it in other states to a much lesser extent and it's something we need to remember is even though about half the country has these grows in mm2 to a lesser extent than California the same groups are under the same Enterprise they're doing human trafficking doing gun-running you know to fuel the fight down to Mexico methamphetamine production and now the new synthetic fentanyl that's just killing thousands especially on the East Coast are coming from these group so it's all one enterprising of course we focus on the Cannabis issue because that's what the factor while Lancer waterways it's right at the Hub so yeah it is it's it's Nationwide it's not a California problem and we may be really really careful even though we're talking about a team in California game wardens we're trying to tell when they the Cannabis issue because that's what the factor while answering waterways it's right at the Hub so yeah it is 6/8 Nationwide it's not a California problem and we may be really really careful even though we're talking about a team in California game wardens we're trying to tell a nationwide story because the nation needs to know

first time I went to Japan with house paint until we go home and literally take one set of clothes out of a bag thrown in another bag and leave so we got to Japan and on this particular trip I brought my girlfriend at that time and I think Danny didn't leave his own homie or whatever but I'll be brought a bunch of guests and it really gets through customs and as I'm getting through customs the guy reaches into his one jacket I have any closes hand out and there's this I'm not going to but he's like what is that and I was like what can you speak English cuz he said it in Japanese so I said okay okay what is that was like my brain just was like well f*** man just stand looks like weed so it looks like weed you know I just f****** owned it that's just a little right f****** taping the f****** finger like I have like my my lady everything at the time everybody got the strip search they never strip-searched me they searched everything I had all my bags everything right they tested one nug of weed whatever I end up after several hours the record label paid off whatever their to pay off we got into the country and we're able to do our tour and the point in the story there was a f****** hate my guts the whole f****** Bunch when we get to the hotel I'm unpacking my back trying to figure out how the whole f****** thing happened and looking at the jacket and I reach into the pocket that was as nothing in there I think that's crazy I reach into the other pocket of the jacket I pull out a f****** ounce of f****** weed they never looked in the other pocket of the jacket but at the last tour like had enough left over just throw it in the pocket not thinking about it on one side for a long time but I got it I called the whole I called everybody that smoked in the crew down to the room after that and I was like your check it out man I really didn't mean this to happen but I probably had more good ass f****** weed in Japan than anybody at the time stop and think of that moment that moment if they didn't go in that one pocket and it went the other pocket first and they found that giant bag of weed we wouldn't be having this conversation we probably wouldn't know I don't think so that's a lot of weed who knows though Mouse paint this was like when the only story like it was like Paul McCartney is banned for life because he got caught with some weed that's that was like that when I don't know if it still exists but there was a point where he was banned for life cuz he got caught with weed over there working yeah that's a problem what's the number one problems number one problem with laws against things like we'd like as long as you can buy some Wiz Kids part of the number one problem a lot of it too is why these prisons are private eyes and they don't want to let a lot of these guys go home and get money for the amount of f****** people in their prisons this whole leg urban legend that I mean it's very believable about this letter that went around like a bunch of people in the in the in the hip hop music industry got not don't know maybe it was within the last decade where they describe like this guy claimed to be a member of the Elite Class of like Executives of the music business in there in the mid-90s and whatnot and there was a time when the private prison industry kind came and got involved in our lungs fast and then kind of help direct like things like rap music and then you remember these to be like public I don't know if you have big are you a fan of music you were at the time of Clans and Public Enemy lose all these proactive like you know counters to like the party drug dealer guys or whatever you're there was another side to it that we existed and was successful and flourished you know amongst it you know and that disappeared that begin like they're this letter that went around was I kind of claiming this guy was part of this thing and he left a meeting when they just got through the whole conspiracy thing I could go but it's like totally believable guys with director music and a f****** media in a certain direction to encourage f****** basically a cycle of f****** prison

Ryan is one of the best that he's so silly like most of his podcast and he does at home with me and him are pretty cool podcast but we've known each other forever we've been best friends since 1994 that right yeah I mean I broke up with his girl and Brian she was she was calling me because she was horny and I was like look I have a new girlfriend but I'm trying to f*** you and he's just like me Brian on my ex-girlfriend he f***** her one of the funniest conversations I ever had with an ex-girlfriend she calls me I'm supposed your friend came inside me and I went what she goes yeah your f****** friend came inside me and I was like well did you tell him that you're on the pill she was no no I'm not on the pill and I was like well I don't know what to tell you girlfriend call you up mad because your friend ejaculated inside of her it was one of them hung up the phone I literally fell to the ground laughing I was lying on my back on the floor my house like it's just so ridiculous as Bryan Callen but I've been friends with a guy forever do all of our conversation so like that conversations are like jokes and hazing and shiting on each other but it's all hugs and love and mean and generous and anything I was looking at Instagram and he's seated next to I know it was a cheetah I like to get up in the morning scraps you a hug together Antelope nearby apparently you can get real close to them in some environments but cheetahs in particular lot of people keep them as pets like you see like a lot of chic's like Rich guys in the Middle East a driving around and they're f****** am G wagons with a cheetah next to them cheat on a leash in the Cheetahs just cool with it so you know but nobody never did that with hippos I think you want to go next level and then right now there are a ruthless f****** animal now I see it they don't play any games yeah for vegetarians it's not even like that wear their food they are vegetarians eat me I know you know deer and cows eat birds are not going back into the vampire. There's a lot of people don't want to believe it they think that but they did will eat a bird if you get a chance you know they know it's food weird and they haven't herbivores digestive tract of a bird is a lot of videos they seemed really playful and friendly real sweet it's real weird things guys like nuzzling these hyenas Vegenaise do hydeia that's your system they have they have like one of the strongest bite ever measured because they're at their whole thing is just smashing bones and trying to get out the nutrition that the Lions leave behind so they're all just about crushing bones so they're at their whole face is designed to Smash Mouth yeah and you know that they're they're f****** receipt here's a guy he's hanging out with these hyenas he plays with them leave this house all but date they're playing with them there either they seem to think he's like they're there buddy but they're they're biting him but they're gentle and the kid rip his arm clean off but they're biting his leg and you know he's not going with them living room light as face I do not know I do not know because I think a lot of these have to do with imprinting y'all yeah for sure that was the thing with my friend Phil demurs who worked at Marineland one of the reasons why he's so furious at them as cuz he's got a walrus name smooshy and the walrus imprinted with him when it was really young right walrus things that says mom okay that he is rather than the walruses mom you know so he's just on this f****** furious quest to get this walrus released and the shutdown the s******* known as Marineland he's been sued forever about the lawsuits as long as I've known him and he's been coming on this podcast for years for years we've been trying to boost its signal and trying to get the word out and then when Blackfish came out that the sort of really turn the tide right or people got a chance to see what Orca captivity is really like then unlike holyshit this is horrific it is absolutely barbaric for years we've been trying to boost his signal and trying to get the word out and then when Blackfish came out that sort of really turn the tide right or people got a chance to see what Orca captivity is really like then like holyshit this is horrific it is absolutely barbaric

so much content right now and never never been a time with his think about what a better time it is entertainment wise we quarantine quarantine cancel cuz there are lots of different companies that could do it they could maybe open up like maybe 50 people and you just separated by two chairs or something I do that after you open up the door during this quarantine to get new movies and shows it's Friday my son's punk as f*** for it I got pushed back to November everyone if they come out with a badass James Bond film would be all over and everybody text her friend do this f****** new James Bond movies that s*** Daniel Craig James Bond Diablo 89007 Daniel Craig James Bond of all time the greatest game of all time I don't believe him as a beautiful man I don't believe him as a murderous English fukin speak character I believe eat it is one guy Daniel Craig they can all eat s*** if you ever want to sell but I'll buy that really has to be a bad motherfuker legitimate bad motherfuker have you ever heard of a black James Bond now it's so f****** funny f****** good that's fine Daniel Craig it's right now as of right now he's the best ever the only one I believe but I believe if they had a similar movie with Idris Elba I believe that too Idris Elba I know I know you might be even telling the truth because they have character and then there's people who take Dives cuz you're the type of people and then there's people who take. So if you're the type of people who takes a dive how I got to believe you anyway

article in the Atlantic about tracking you with cell phones and tracking you in comparison to trusted people that tested negative like that that that could be the way that we can release people from quarantine and this is because if you have to have a health app on their phone that's really do have to keep the app up-to-date there's one on every iPhone already yeah but I think this is a different kind of it's not you know it's a different kind of thing that like you have to have like you have to be certified that you tested clean for covid-19 it's on your phone Isabel certificate just accepted that people can be sick and we prefer Freedom over a hundred percent safety we've always accepted but my point is we've always accepted that and if we decide to keep going further down that rabbit-hole where we make someone carry device we can track their location you have to have a travel weird man up to what have you been partying all night and go to the airport then like I see you have cancer like no no I just did Coke slippery road if you tell people they have to have a phone everywhere they go right now you don't you can have a driver's license and or a passport and you can get on a plane and you're fine you don't have to have a phone you don't have to have a phone right now and I'm not saying you shouldn't have a phone but I'm saying if someone's going to tell you that you have to have a phone everywhere you go things are going to get slippery but what it was going to be able to track you 100% what if it's just like that's what you scanned and make sure you're healthy but that's the problem is this, but think about all Google has done and is not a knock on Google but all Google has done with basically just the information that they give two companies of what your activities are right this is the reason why when you're talking about things needs Google add pop-up why why is that why when you look up something you find those ads and everything was trying to tell you things figure out the modern what you're looking at you try to figure out what makes you tick why would they do that with this to why wouldn't you do that with this to why wouldn't I give if you could track people you could try out who's going to pay for that software and all that stuff would you rather and while they're doing their light you know everything they do what's this app on them but they can't leave behind the checks their health a group that has more power over an individual rather than another individual is not like the thing about having a massive group that can tell one person that they can or can't do something is it can be abused if everyone's even it can never abuse if we all follow the same rules and same laws then okay we all agree that you we all have the same amount of control and power over each other's lives but as soon as you have more control than the person who you're monitoring then things can get weird it's just natural people are weird they they control people they like controlling people they like abusing power a lot of people that have power abused power so if you give the power of constant surveillance and exchange for the freedom to be able to go everywhere you want in the relieving of quarantine we just want to know your Healthy no big deal like okay well let you out more likely what's more likely is a crazy thing happens and people automatically take advantage when they find an opportunity especially the more SoCal tickets at f****** conspiracy I take advantage of things that happen that's more likely what's more likely is a crazy thing happens and people automatically take advantage when they find an opportunity especially the more predatory amongst us

I want you say it stand up in podcasting really yeah well podcast things right now its emerging as a different Beast see before people joke about it they will we doing like Howard Stern's to make fun of it I wanted you out your window what are you doing and you know what he was coming from you got to think he's a Pioneer and radio and traditional radio and he made his bones radio and he carved his path and radio then I'll send this thing comes along with anybody can do it the threat the threat but it's also see in a way I understand his perspective because in his day when he made it he had to compete against all these other Killers Arts you got all these other morning guys all over the country and then when he goes it's indicate so he'll invade Chicago he's invading Los Angeles trying to take over taking over but there was only a few slots right so you couldn't couldn't listen to his show later listen to it then so everyone's competing during these slots so you have the slot that is 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. that's drive time baby even now he doesn't know podcast and like I remember I used to listen to Howard for a long time and it probably like maybe a year ago they brought up something cuz you s*** on podcasting is to podcasters even make money and one of the guys got on there and I forget his Cruz name I think Joe Rogan if you like Snot long time listener first-time caller well doesn't matter what bum me out and again I'm a huge Howard Stern fan I think you and I think maybe I forget to send it to me by sense to you when Howard Stern it released that to his employees has like a a yearly like meeting with his employees someone recorded it damn it makes you feel so sick f*** did you realize how Hollywood Deuce by the idea of what first of all you need friends you need really good friends that are like you that are in your world I think one of them's is separates us all of us as comics from rest of Hollywood is like goddamn were glued to each other yes we're gluten we should on each other we laugh it would complement each other we love each other and call each other with each other different thing and no one that but also it's not a doggy dog know I know everybody is running out of that room telling everybody that murdered it and when is he Bill Burr Go on stage the main room and crush it you're coming out and saying it and I'm coming out and saying it and count saying it we're all excited like God damn that was awesome at holy s*** about telling people you see a love for the art and a love for each other did the camaraderie like the the wanting people to be good you realize like he doesn't have to just be about you and they didn't I don't think they I think that's what you were talking about competition earlier talking about Jordan and Tyson in the Balkans yes I think one guy like commit suicide news I guess I felt bad for that you know you don't like that that time that's what I had to do well that's what he did right whether he had to do it or not that's what he did what you know doing it it did work and you felt like you had to do and look he's also we have to be everything you have to look into you got to look at it with perspective and in my head would Howard Stern's always going to represent is that guy who paved the way like without him you got to realize there was nothing like Howard Stern before Howard Stern do it didn't exist you had on IMS was kind of risque and then Here Comes this really tall long-haired rock and roll type do doesn't give a f*** and you just want to have pornstars on my girls are riding vibrators and people farting songs in the microphones is madness and he's getting sued by the government man so that the government that their come huge judgements against the company that owns if he keeps going and he keeps Goin podcast all are you know Patrice used to say like Patrice you say about other Comics that like David tell Dave Attell got a lot of babies and what a man is that there's a lot of other Comics that would imitate David tell out of the fact that they were fans and they were insecure and if they're not plagiarist they just weren't good yet when I was young man I sounded I used to sound exactly like Richard jeni really heard myself on stage when I've been doing an open I caught myself doing like a bad Richard jeni impression with my material when I was like 21 or something 222 like, terrible it was such a Richard jeni fan at the time that is like mimicking him onstage purpose myself and a lot of mannerisms like Brian or delete anybody was he created this radio cab he created this chaos we had these these people this wack Packers were out of their f****** mind and he would interview them and and and talk to all these nuts f****** people that was the first one then remember yet but if he wasn't like oh how's your movie but we f****** and then he made it possible people to talk the way we talk and then Opie and Anthony were the next important phase because when Opie and Anthony where where hang where is Howard is The Man Behind the switchboard and Howard is in control of isn't is it is Universe with Opie and Anthony people just show up like I'd be on the air and it would be like four or five other Comics there and we would we would love it and Jim Norton download all the time whatever he's a very interesting. I loved his love of transexuals and he's honest and raw where were the first loose hang you know so I can get it would kind of be orchestrating a little bit we're like keeping everybody making sure you know keep an eye on everything making sure it didn't get out of hand and then Anthony is this very he's a guy who grew up doing construction and that's how I literally how it got in the radio but is also very intelligent very inquisitive since he's got like a regular guy sensibility but he's also very f****** smart and then he would have all these comics and then Norton was great, can South would be there in maybe Colin Quinn and Bill Burr and me and shaffir and all this madness man was nothing like that really know made podcast become what they are because like those guys Comics just hang out and talk no one ever like Comics just hang out and run the show before opening Anthony so the big steps to podcast and where Howard Stern is most important and then after how it's turned these are Howard Stern's babies Howard Stern's babies are like Opie and Anthony were Howard Stern's babies but they became their own thing just like a comic would imitate David Tao when he's a young guy up and then as he gets older he finds his own speed in this a lot of comics right now that are like top-level guys that I bet if you watch them 10-15 years ago they would sound a lot like someone else and then Opie and Anthony open up the door to podcast and cuz they made comics where they could just hang and then everyone's got their own style like Ron funches has his own style Erik Griffin has his own style you and Brian have your own style Theo's got his completely stopped all of us have these different thinks the girls got his style Christina pazsitzky have their Style Spartanburg yes the world is more Bountiful than it was back then it's not like Burt and Burr or competing against Bert was one run by one production company but Burton Barr will run by a different they're both going to be at noon and you have to listen to one of the other and Burton and it's f****** argument you now they're going to take us out of noon and that's that's that was what they had to do with it was a totally different Dynamic now it's a totally it's like we were trapped in these tunnels fighting for air and pop and we got to the top of the all the air you want is free are free are you can just put up a podcast video put up put up a makeup video makeup sketch fighting for Erin pop we got to the top of the tunnel in this all the are you want it's free are you can just put up a podcast video put up put up a make a video make a sketch and then it might get seen by a million people

by the way I got through the laundry series on I still have to watch the Netflix documentary on your boy that looks exactly like you and I threw my s*** out about Elizabeth Holmes chick that robbed every the Rhino that's right, is it good good one UK mantle different gas smell like what I say too much cuz I want Tom to explain you haven't him on next week that books so f****** that he knows the things that are absolutely one-hundred-percent provable just those things are mine blowers it's documented to Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco and and the cops they did a lot of s*** in the 1970s with drugs and people for experiment the 60s and the 70s and that's how they created the Unabomber man to Ted Kaczynski was a part of the Harvard LSD program Unabomber in his own words the first time that dick that he only let one person ever interview them and it's all the tapes from the interview and you know his defense team goes listen dude you're not going to get the death penalty if you just plead Insanity goes insane insane to you cuz I'm not insane and so he fired his defense team because they wanted to say was insane because I'd rather die than be called insane think I'm not in saying I'm a genius goddamn because he's not correct to kill those people but he is correct that technology is eventually going to overcome people

they're not going to miss a beat didn't didn't Gavin Governor say something about football not coming back he doesn't count when you talk to him he doesn't count when you talk to like Trump and some of these other people talk to Trump told the NFL the Commissioners like I'm planning for NFL season is not skip a beat f*** with football shoe football or Georgia football college football see what happened you think things are bad now f*** with the college football weird time to because right before the election you know election comes in November like imagine if this this s*** was going on right now in the elections like next week that they wanted him that they wanted that they don't admit using cognitive decline I mean not very strange f***** up all the time I speak for a living I f***** up all the time what do you want to ask me questions about things that I think about it and talk about all the time if you're black. And I could talk to you and really clearly about those things and make a lot of sense he can't do that about politics and he's been a politician forever and that's your s*** he's he's you know he's a guy who's suffering is in Decline and they're going to try to Wilmot and whoever his VP is whether it's Kamala Harris or whatever, maybe that's who you're voting for reminder Country George Bush was the present here and I don't know we'll see there's no way that's especially because of the timing of this right now we're in the s*** right where the April s*** is the worst time of the corona lot of people are dying this a slight drop off in New York people dying less today than yesterday slight drop off yesterday from the day before so things are looking pretty good California can be very good right now we're crushing it huh so and then you go June July August hopefully everything is up and running again economy starts coming back on track Trump makes a couple of great speeches about Biden is more indecline it's not going to get better knows those two face off Trump's going to light him up like a Comedy Central roasts already dismissing him someone said Biden said this was heated first of all he didn't write that was Democratic operative he probably doesn't even know what it says it's like Mike Tyson versus 3 year old is true that are in the middle that are you know a lot of people that are casually acquainted with politics listen to his message of doing good for the working class I think you helped out with more people is what it is you want to have a conversation that was such a bummer because I turned all the stuff that I didn't stand up and like things that are said drunk about Masada podcast and put it in quote as if I'm a homophobe or a Transformer racist or they just lied to make it look like Bernie was supporting some right-wing person with me while I'm left wing it made me feel like this is a dirty business like I want to be a part of your journey to the nerdiest they're trying to change people's opinions with deception it's not like they're trying to tell you how good their guy is the using deception the using fuckeries it's lazy it's a sleazy business is not a meritocracy I got emails released a lot of them will they reached out to the publicist but I'm not interested in look I'm only interested in interviewing people that I thought were interesting I was interested in like Andrew Yang and I like him too Andrew Yang and I liked him too I love Tulsi gabbard I just think she has her to know she's so dangerous those people that they they just they wouldn't want never tried changing the rules keep it from debating after she sang Kamala Harris they like this lady's too dangerous

no I want to kick his ass I want to talk about to kill him I forgot the bit but what events postponed indefinitely due to covid-19 Dana White says he's ready for multi-event but things were taken out of troll much much more complete government stepped on this s*** is do it if I definitely could get tested and then I would have to know the results before I come back so I can even then you don't know if they're testing was a little dicey it also said it was hypothetical on like if they can get that done or get it mass-produced or whatever it is and it works and it's accurate than they will proceed but I'm so disappointed looking out for human nature it's human nature to Edward Snowden found out about the NSA like a course they could if they could they're going to do it to find a way it's Human Nature you know how adamant Dana wedding go get that in there supposed to happen April 18th has been cancelled and white confirms ESPN Executives and he is doing so damn thinking the power of Disney government regulations by state government would be there probably can't do this they're saying it's not worth it. Imagine that having all these fights that you have to make and having all this pressure on you and you're also like a famous guy like Dana is only two president Family Dollars in the you get used to that you can use the help you do you do compensated well for it a man who doesn't give a f*** he's nuts did everyone Logan just f****** $5 as long as any other disease where we understood it better I would be way more confident you understand numbers though we do but we don't understand Michael Yo okay Michael you almost died almost. But he did it but he was in the hospital for a week but he's fine okay okay people who are less robust than Michael Yo to die so we got to figure out like what the f*** this virus is how is it get treated what's the most effective way and then then then it makes sense that we're a little bit more loose with our regulations 1% Michael Yo he's in this shape compared to the UFC fighter he's f****** Adele you know I'm saying like he's not in shape compared to Tony Ferguson works out alot you really does again computer Tony Ferguson that's fine anything you can do like that in the forest Island that's what I've been cool about this UFC thing if it really did go to f*** Island not anymore remote situation if it's a small island if you could control the whole island test everybody 100 how much money is the UFC and be spending on these private job how much money are they going to be making with the reality show about moving the UFC to the island cuz I'm watching that s*** f*** Tiger King I watching Dana White's with his crazy or screaming and running around trying to figure out a way to product Island international waters and that's what I do like bro that's one episode like this I'm hoping I'm hoping they obviously I'm hoping the current treatment is the one that works but two if that's not the one that works maybe they find something just as good I think we got a lot accomplished people that don't think it's a good idea but I'm not interested in putting myself at risk but my real concern was how do I know if I contracted it and then I bring it back how am I going to know and then I'll be honest to myself like I really wouldn't know so the only way I would be able to do it is to do it and then be in quarantine until I get tested it worth it packed it and then I'll bring it back how am I going to know and then I'll be honest to myself like I really wouldn't know so the only way I would be able to do it is to do it and then be in quarantine until I get tested that ain't worth it

that's all very promising you know it's it's really interesting to because it would become such a hot political topic you know there's so many people that are angry at Trump but they were angry at Trump back when he was closing the travel from China which turned out to be a great idea and you know Donald Trump Jr tweeted today a compilation of CNN and all these other different networks giving out bad information way back in January information saying this is going to be fine don't worry Dana it's not as deadly as the flu each worry about the flu you know don't change your plans don't do anything so a lot of people got this wrong and but so many people are trying to make this a political point right now and it's really it's so so useless it's it that you know about pointing fingers and everything at this point in time they need to concentrate on getting mask equipment keeping people healthy if they can and then Edge people on how to keep your immune system strong and lets you know it's try to let's try to get people to understand the consequences of not taking care of your body it has to be the worst job in the world president no matter what you do everyone's going to have two people going to hate you advantage of the of the pandemic to increase their power and civil liberties you know in hungry and and and turkey and Israel China of course Putin in Russia gets lumped in there like in Yahoo so you're something like this I mean you just clamp down on all travel until he would have been totally accused of being an autocrat he's you know he wants to be a dictator look what he's doing okay so he doesn't do that and then he's accused of not doing enough when it looks like we should have done more and then he said well I'm not going to tell all the governor's what to do and then I'm going to honor states rights for now and of course he gets hammered for that it's like you know but that's actually that's not what an autocrat would do in Minecraft would say yeah I'm telling everybody what to do in a drop all the polarisation politically rally around the present even if you hate him and Senators voted for the Warren at univ for the invasion of Afghanistan and including Iraq including Hillary right so maybe we ought to do that I know people just can't stand Trump and then he's at the idea like saying something nice or supportive or not being critical seems hard to do but maybe this is way worse than 9/11 2001 it seems like you just keeps ramping up and Trump is such a naturally polarizing figure that it's gotten another the left vs right has gotten so extreme right now it's almost impossible for rational discourse and this is one of the reasons why it's a good time now to talk about your book giving the devil his due to graph of the people that self-identify as Centrist vs. now which more polarized she had this two-hump camel here and that's from 2019 94 2004 and then close to today when did is that a trump shift that little hoe no no no no about 2,000 it will really under Obama by 2008 the polarisation got worse and worst far-left far-right young strong Republican strong the Democrat whatever and said that that middle ground has been is been drinking the centuries have been drinking in the polls have been increasing some more more people are polarized conservative talk radio and television or media but but in general I think we've just been more polarized in the sense of not just saying while I disagree with you I think you're wrong but that you're evil your more polarized in the sense of not just saying while I disagree with you I think you're wrong but that you're evil you're you're you're immoral you know this is the worst thing that's ever happened to us and so on this kind of ramping up of the cat catastrophism do you know is not healthy

identified though just a moment ago was that if people identify with their beliefs that is the specific say political platforms like an immigration abortion civil rights whatever secondary to the deeper core moral values that people hold I defined myself as a liberal and if I mess up as a Conservative Republican whatever and this but you don't need abortion thing I think you're wrong and here's what the impulses well but if I give if I gave up on that one then I'm going to lose all these other ones and then I have given up my identity rights out like when I get to debate creationist intelligent design theaters and so on you know I could tell that if I give people a choice like you have to choose between Jesus and Darwin for your life or not picking Darwin okay because it is sort of belief in their dogmas about Jesus that is their core beans who cares about Darwin and you know whoever the scientist was but if I say keep these as keep your whole religion I don't care what you believe what the science is really good on this and here's why you should follow the facts and you don't have to give up anything for it so I thought okay I'll listen Conservative then climate change is just a proxy for something else like I believe in free markets and free enterprise and I'm pro-business and those guys over there you know they want to attack that now unfortunately allegory success with his film and books and so forth then affiliated climate-science with a left-wing liberal cause there for conservatives have to go against it even though he knows how that much about climate science has become something else that you identify yourself is so we have to take that out of the formula like you keep your worldview that you define yourself as don't give up that but just follow the facts on these specific issues if you're right Wing you used most absolutely certain my skepticism about climate change right so when somebody publicly signals where they stand on say climate change what they're really saying is luck I'm I am publicly declaring my commitment to my team bet that's right in and saw a lot of cognitive science studies of reasoning shows that we we generally don't reason toward finding the truth but defending positions that are part of our team ideology or so Collective whole and in this case we've been talking about left and right but you know there's there's a religious idea or economic ideologies and so on that are part of that is that that's fine Defender team but you know what I try to do in the book has dissed entangle the specific issues let's just take them one by one like why can't I be personally against abortion I don't want to do that but I and I recognized say Ben Shapiro's Arguments for the rights of the fetus but I also think we have conflicting moral values are the rights of a woman and and the history of the way women have been treated and Men of always tried to Lord it order over women's reproductive choices historical this is always lead to bad things like infanticide and and back alley abortions and so on are on one side or the other I recognize and acknowledge your argument a really good band or whoever is a pro-lifer but I still hold this position I think there's a lot of progress that can be made socially to kind of reduce the tension when you say I acknowledge your position I understand it and Steel Man in the argument and then the person on the other side feels like I think that's a that is the best topic when it comes to that because it's when you get to a particular we get to a late-term abortions boy that's a very hard thing to defend morally and ethically and it's also one of things about the abortion topic is that it's so uniquely human in that it's such a messy topic it's not does not like here's a clear one don't murder people right don't guess it'll have to be yeah that's clean that's that's that's a clean subject abortion is not that clean like when is it okay is it okay when the fetus is not a fetus when it's just a bundle of cells most people like you when when do we decide will that such a messy subject and it's such a human subject and I like you I am on the side of pro-choice and I think that it is the woman's choice to decide whether or not she wants to keep the baby but I also recognize at a certain point in time that choice becomes very different the choice becomes very different when is a 6 month old fetus like what is what are we saying there if you if you are just I am pro-choice. Okay are you pro-choice up until the day of birth like when do you back it off when do you back it off and it it is a subject that people do not want to breach they don't want to touch and particular particular people on the left when it comes to deciding when it's okay when it's not okay because they feel like this is angling towards and elimination of a woman's right to choose and it angles towards this is very difficult conversation where are you you recognize that there is a difference between someone who's 7 months pregnant and someone who's 7 days pregnant there's a very very big difference and if we can't acknowledge that then we are being tribal we're being ideologic where's are sticking to our position because we feel like if we concede that this is a complex issue then we open up the door to possibly losing a woman's right to choose and losing these Reproductive Rights yeah I think part of the problem is that we tend to dichotomize most moral issues is right or wrong good or evil and in the problem is it the law has to draw the line somewhere we have to have a law and to get along teenage is this instead of that or the driving age is this the point of which you can have abortion is right here but most most of life is much more on a spectrum a Continuum so here I make the distinction in the book between binary thinking and continuous thinking most moral issues are on a continuum everybody know know where do you draw the line and another Messi human subject yep yep but if you think of it's like well it's a Continuum instead of a binary choice and you know whatever answer it's not just right or wrong good or evil that there's different places to set the the dial so something and hear the comparative method of looking at what different countries do is experiment thinking of those experiments like Japan has a very tight sweat it way down here they let almost nobody in Australia is a little looser but but the tighter than us and so on it kind of look at the consequences of letting just many people in or that many people and see what it does with all countries are different summer more diverse summer more homogeneous you have to account for that and I do not instead of binary thinking continuous thinking abortion you just articulated a perfectly I mean 7 days I'll come on you know it's just a bundle of cells Creed's thoughts on the Nugget place but we have to have a line somewhere so the lies to do that but that been forces us into that binary thinking which is not helpful between these two sides and I think that's so much of what people subscribe to when they do choose an ideology once they choose an ideology they they have this conglomeration of ID did they adopt and they adopt in order to be accepted by the tribe and its this is also a very unique aspect of human communication and civilization that we we have to adhere to the principles in the ideologies of that tribe so you just take on all these thoughts and it's one of the real problems with only having two choices in this country when it comes to politics and it comes to just styles of life you know and there's so many people that take great Relish in switching teams 2 is like I was a liberal my whole life then one day I woke up and realize I was being a moron and now and now I'm a pro-second Amendment Pro Trump Maga make America great keep America great it's interesting cuz those are sometimes the most the most passionate supporters of the new side whether they are there are newly liberal or newly conservative or you know some of the people that are the most interesting to talk to her people that used to be vegan carnivore with almost every style of living you can find a country style the people find appealing noticed people that used to be atheist to become Muslims and they they they they wear you know the hijab and they fully adhered to the Koran really really interesting because I've spent a lot of time watching religious Scholars online talk and watching them preach and watching it since something and as a person who is very agnostic when I watch that it's appealing to me there's a certain aspect of the confidence that they have when they're talking about what God wants or what you know what Allah has in store for you when you die or what you should do because it's written in this particular religious text the confidence that they have describe these things is very alluring even to me it's not like I'm going to join but I'm sitting there in front of my computer and I'm recognizing oh I see the appeal here but I see it I see how this works on people and I find it incredibly fascinating and I think it has two it has to have some sort of an evolutionary reason there's some sort of reason beside some sort of an evolutionary benefit that adhering and being accepting of the morals and the ethics in the ideology of the tribe is that that's how you stay alive that's how you find other like-minded people to stick with you

mr. Sherman how are you sir I'm fine thank you I'm still breathing good to see you again we were saying before we get started at the last time we saw each other was we went to dinner about six weeks ago and you're thinking that that might be the end of that kind of stuff that was my last time I've been in a restaurant actually and we made quit shaking hands and hugging to the extent that we used to although I don't think we'll ever ever go all the way to the say the Japanese model of social distancing but modifications like that the change of remote say meetings and education I mean I'm in the studio here in Santa Barbara where I've been recording lectures for my Chapman University class cups is in 101 and I just upload them and share them with the students and and then they watch him and then I said Wednesday take the quiz they send them back now that's not a complete replacement of a brick-and-mortar building with a small class seminar discussion say but but does not adequately replace a lot of traditional education that you don't really need to be in a classroom for do you think this is preparing us for the ultimate where we embrace the symbiotic relationship that we have with computers and become one with the machine and it seems like electronic community happening slowly already and this is kind of a jump starting it I mean already tech companies like Zoomer having to going to ramp up their game because you know the systems are crashing could pretty much everybody's doing Zoom meetings now theaters anymore and I love watching a movie on a big screen but you know that the screens we have at home now big television screens super high-def you know why not just watch movies at all so I don't think we're going to have much of a choice I was reading an article this morning but AMC Theaters might they might have to go under because of the really not good these companies are accustomed to having a certain amount of money coming in every month and I never no one anticipated anything like this or all businesses going to shut down gyms I mean how many gyms are going to go under how many yoga studios mini I mean it's a strange and trying time for people who have small businesses for sure that one of my cycling buddies owns the La Canada theater complex and of course rents out the the space two different retailers including the the theater the theater managers and he was telling me that they normally pay $93,000 a month in rent 7 and 1/2 million dollars a year or something so it's it all balances out but they just told him we're not going to make our rent this month so he has to go to his mortgage company or the bank that we gets pays off his mortgage and so I can't pay you this month because these guys can't pay me in case I multiply that by you know 10 million yeah well of course the government can't just print money and definitely then we're going to get huge inflation and then in that could be catastrophic compared to what we're doing to save people's lives dollar amount you can put on a human life there for total social isolation no matter what does the economy is what we're going to do now well it but at some point you know that you know there's a economic calculation like how many people are going to die saying the next year if we never open the economy we will but what point do you do that supply chain toilet paper stand and the idea of putting a dollar figure on a human life is repulsive to most of us I think intuitive laid in this context but in fact we do it all the time you know in terms of like an automobile company has to pay off the family of somebody who died in their car well there are people who do those calculations like what's the value of a human life and about 10 million dollars the family's got paid off I think it's $250,000 a person X the 3,000 something and you know it sounds so cold like who does those calculations well statisticians do that sort of thing and and attorneys and accountants work on that and judges and juries have to face it and you know that's kind of a normal part of other aspects of life that we're not used to thinking about most of us don't think about it but that's the kind of calculation going to have to do for what we're in now singing and attorneys and accountants work on that and judges and juries have to face it and you know that's kind of a normal part of other aspects of life that we're not used to thinking about most of us don't think about it but you know it's on point that's the kind of calculation going to have to do for what we're in now

like a campus eruption at Yale over again the Halloween costumes business with Nicholas christakis want to promote what's right and I want to be against evil and I'm all fired up here with my my moral module dialed up to 11 on want to go out on the street what am I going to protest those Halloween costumes. Cultural appropriation Tuesday is Taco Tuesday yeah that's cultural appropriation you know that the Mexican Community is being appropriated by these whites eating tacos like we're in Southern California where is there no tacos I mean this is it's like you know what today is and then he shows his talk Taco Tuesday and I was okay with you is he allowed to do it I mean the whole thing is preposterous it's delicious food you know it's not like we're saying white people created it or anything like that is so ridiculous in so many ways but one of the most ridiculous ways it is is that it prevents people from enjoying some amazing aspects of the diverse cultures that we all coexist with especially here in America this is such a illegitimate Melting Pot I think it's amazing that you can go to all these different places and that you know there's a guy I'm trying to remember his name Rick Bayless I believe his name is and he's a famous Mexican chef but he's not Mexican but he cooks Mexican food and he loves Mexican Cuisine he takes all these trips to Mexico to learn with the Mexican Masters and he has a famous restaurant in Chicago where he has a full authentic Mexican menu and people are furious at him because he already is this white guy selling Mexican food like what do you expect him to do like you have to be born a certain patch of dirt to enjoy a style of food and don't you think that he is actually boosting the signal and letting people know that there's some amazing things that come out of Mexico this is an homage to Mexican Cuisine he's not trying to claim it but you know hey this was invented Chicago you know this is not really Mexico PCS saying this is from Mexico we talked openly about the various parts of the country of Mexico where this style of cooking came from and and you knowing how it emanates and it is from the traditional ingredients and he cooks them in traditional ways and it's fantastic like really widely praised restaurant with amazing food and this guy gets hit on for it it's it's crazy cuz it used to be like in the 19th century there was this idea of kind of a pure European culture and other cultures Were Somehow not as good and they Define culture in a very specific way and then back again they're saying no no there's a pure correct culture that only the people born there can you adopt those cultural features that's the complete opposite of what liberals used to RGS the fact that we didn't have as many real problems as we used to and when you talk about Yale with Nick christakis I think this is thing that kids do when they're coming of age they're separated from their parents and they want establish that so many of these older people are wrong about the way life is never wrong we're going to show them what's right we have a new way of living we have a new way of thinking and we want this campus to be safe we want safe spaces and and a lot of it is about in control of their environment and enforcing their ideology and creating something that's in a lot of ways is very ego-driven because they're they're trying to show that they're making a change in the environment around them and they have good intentions while they're doing it it's just their brains haven't fully formed yet and they don't have a lot of life experience and this pattern this pattern shows itself over and over and over again it's a constantly repeating pattern constantly repeating pattern for these kids go away to college and become self-righteous and then try to impose their viewpoints on the older people it's very very comments and it has this these psychological building blocks to add that you can kind of see why they're doing this

Trinity College Boy by Meister wrote that great book on evil when she actually went and interviewed serial killers and rapists in prison and said you why'd you do it and discover that they all had this perspective like well this is why I did it I had a crappy childhood or you know how I felt it you know that it was totally justified that guy dismay or she cheated on me or they all had justifications behind their argument if the perpetrator is just pure evil he did it because he enjoys suffering at the suffering of other people now there are some Psychopaths that do that but they're very small and number very tiny percentage of the population most people in prison that are killers they did it for moralistic reasons you know he took my parking spot so I slept with my girlfriend until I had to do something and defend my honor and one thing led to another and here I am in prison they almost moralistic reasoning so the problem is not that we don't have enough morality that actually we have too much morality too much moralizing about other people that are harming us so go back to the Free Speech issue at the moment you say we're going to create a category called hate speech okay what goes in that Ben Brightwell state supreme court to uphold this conviction of this guy named shank he was head of the Socialist Party in Philadelphia in 1918 he was Distributing Flyers to draft age men telling them that the conscription is equivalent of slavery because the 14th amendment protects your right to bodily autonomy and when the government says we're drafting you in the military and we're sending you to Europe this case for the European Great War we now on your body for the next four years okay so this is what so here's the famous lines from Oliver Wendell Holmes Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Schenck versus United States that we're all familiar with the most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic the question in every case is whether the word used are used in such circumstances that are such a nature as to create a clear and present danger but they will bring about the substitution of evils that Congress has a white right to prevent it is a question of proximity and degree so clear and present danger and cause violence or something like that so that's going to be at the time I clear and present danger protesters of the draft and their argument their argument is pretty You can disagree with insano I think in times of national crisis we have to abolish set aside the Fourteenth Amendment and can script young men into the army and send them up toward potentially die that's alright to do it to protect our nation but we should be able to debate that but the moment that happened in 1919 then category creep or category expansion happened where more more things got put into the bin of clear and present danger Community or whatever so that category just got bigger and bigger and then go back to why liberals used to defend free speech and now it's more conservative doing it and Liberals are in favor of censorship begins with this idea of something like in the sixties where we began to become sensitive to the words we use to describe other people so the n word yeah yeah those are all hate speech to the bins starts getting larger and larger then all the sudden you end up with these list of microaggressions I reprint one in the book from UCLA University California system in 2014 issues this long list of things you can't say like where are you from or wow you're good at math to someone who's not Asian or why you speak English so well these are now considered hate speech feelings of being hurt and that is a form of clear danger to the sort of Serenity of our community and I'll send this category is now Hughes where are you from really on that list all the time because she's from Germany and she speaks perfect English has no accent and people go wow I can't believe you speak English so well or well I can't believe you're not from America or something like that and instead of being a Eli paid attention in school

talk to you about Michaels there's an article today in the Atlantic which is really interesting it's about technology it's contact tracking technology and this there's a real concern about this stuff first of all the idea is great that if you did this free America from quarantine this is always the risk right the risk is just give up a little bit of your civil liberties give up a little bit of your freedom and we're going to keep you safe and you know what brings you to the old Benjamin Franklin quote you know he who would give up Liberty for Freedom deserves neither neither liberty for safety stocked up that quote but this is very interesting because they're using it in South Korea and then using it in Singapore and the title of the article in the Atlantic is the technology that could free America from quarantine until today and they bring up this conundrum it mean nobody wants to give up civil liberties and civil he's lost her rarely regained and this is the real concern here that if you do allow people to track who you're in contact with and make sure they're okay your testing negative and you're in contact with people that also test negative so you're okay you're okay to travel now like this is this is a very weird thing and it gets very gray area how do you feel about this sort of thing I like privacy and that I do have a right to not be tracked and you know that you can't have cameras in my home or my yard and it's on in general I think across-the-board that's a good principal and Anna follows the Constitution I think there are times I think it is you know we do have a constitution we do have states rights we do have courts that litigate these sorts of things I could see a reasonable measure being taken for let's say we're going to do the following for 6 months until we see what happens with this pandemic and then once that's over then we're going to revert back now let's say the governor or the other presidents has one night going back well then you have courts then we can you sue the state are you sue the federal government for violations of civil liberties and then you can get them back what happened to NSA when Edward Snowden revealed how much tracking is actually going on I mean that's never been yeah yeah I know emails right yes and you know these started abortion so supposedly when Obama became president is like Xena the transparent president so we're going to stop doing that well. That's not the case we wouldn't have known that without. Snowden or the or the Pentagon papers and you know it's good to know what Mutual favorite subjects of conspiracy theories you know we didn't know about a lot of the things Kennedy was doing and Johnson all the way back to Eisenhower line about the Vietnam War for example until the Pentagon papers came out and then in the 90s that church committee on conspiracies from the 70s a lot of those documents were released and there was that that business about the operation Northwoods Kennedy Administration that people brought to him this idea of a false flag operation over Cuba make it look like the Russians were harassing our aircraft are airports as an excuse to invading Cuba or assassinating Castro and so it's like you know like when you had Alex Jones talks about false flag operations and most of us Skeptics doll that's a bunch of nonsense less than a year later right then all the shenanigans of American intelligence agents manipulating elections in South American but he's our son of a b**** anyway how to support the fascist dictator rather than the Communist dictators like what are we doing doing that anyway well that's what we do it's like wait a minute does the public know about this did Congress approve this know okay so you know this is one reason people believe conspiracy theories is because a lot of them were true

so you know this is one reason people believe conspiracy theories is because a lot of them are true not all of them with you with the Epstein case like you were one of the first people that mean as a literal you're a professional skeptic and you looked at some of the evidence you like well you know what this might be a conspiracy been enough of them I'm still not sure about that one because after I posted something about the other two cameras broke or whatever somebody wrote me from that prison saying all those cameras are always breaking in a way that Michael Batten the famous autopsy doctor says is completely inconsistent with hanging and much more consistent with someone strangling you include including the actual area where he was hanging from supposedly like it is consistent with someone's trying you from behind not consistent with you hanging by your own weight after Weinstein got his is Harvey Weinstein got his conviction I thought oh boy but they better have a real suicide watch on this guy cuz I had sex with all these starlets and turn them into big celebrities and Cindy I bet he probably doesn't want that out especially this stage of the game nothing I don't think anything he's got going to make him look good and I think the thing with Epstein is he knew way too much about too many powerful people there's just some so many connections it could be made with that guy and that you know to this day people are asking questions that people like Bill Gates don't want to answer prince Andrew or any of these people they like to get you know I don't want to talk about this the gates by prince Andrew of course I flew on the Lolita Express that's the thing is there's so much data and so I mean one of the things that's really sad about the loss of respect for mainstream journalism and mainstream media is what we count can't count on them and who is regulating the independence who's regulating these websites who's regulating these people that are just you know so-called independent journalist they're just tweeting things and finding thinking of putting things up on their website since it's so hard to tell who's telling the truth and who's not and when I was giving the devil his due I had that this was kind of a challenge to me because I feel like there's so much fake news real fake news and bogus theories and in my areas of medicine and cancer cure and I feel like well but I'm a free speech fundamentalist I really believe you have people that short of just lying about somebody or giving away the nuclear codes or something like that thousand flowers bloom and just see what you know what sunlight on all of them and see which ones rise to the top because they're supported by evidence there's a risk to that that is to say no people will take bad information and I'll go shoot up a pizzeria or something that is to say that theory is that 5G is causing people to feel ill to take you out and that the government made up of the corporation's made up the story about the coronavirus as a distraction from 5G stupid and only five countries have 5G Towers why the f*** would you dummies why the f*** is you idiots think that 5G towers are causing covid-19 it's oh yeah you know that was accused with four G in 3-g and you know it is cell phones back in the late 90s and early 2000 there was a scare about you're holding the phone up to your own we all started doing that and that this is may be causing brain tumors and Jay from the cell phone itself or even these 5G Towers is not strong enough to break chemical bonds like DNA to cause mutations in cells to them become cancerous is not a physical mechanism A&B the counter examples that you always have to what about the countries that don't have 5G different options in our Focus tends to be on the one cell so I always use this uristix for my class teaching 2 by 2 Matrix we have for ourselves so I did this with this there's this documentary film coming out about horror films that are haunted or cursed horror films that occur so like the which is the one where the actors died in the helicopter Act of The Twilight Zone The Movie and The Exorcist and the other films were bet you do bad things happen to the actors that are in horror films okay the problem with that is your only focusing on one cell that is horror films that are cursed what then there's horror films that are not cursed nothing bad happened to the actors in those and then there's non horror films regular films which bad things happened to the actors and then none films that are not cursed right someone we just focus on the one so it's easy to find examples that fit it but something like The Shining which is a super horror scary film you're nothing bad happened to the actors and or just take some other film like The Godfather with whatever that's not nothing bad happened you're just bet you just plucking out anecdotes do that cuz they love to believe in spiritual connections and they love to believe in Clairvoyance and they love to believe in haunted things I'm Jamie pull up the article in The Sciences Bill Gates breaks silence on Epstein admitting he made a mistake in judgment by meeting with the pedo Tycoon it says so story about it who knows but he is he is quoted in there yeah I don't know why I know that mean they're so I know some scientists and scientist because he had a lot of money and I can find your lab help help find your lab to the tune of millions of dollars and it's hard to resist that and then maybe you go down that road a little bit and then you start hearing these rumors about his personal life and he was like yeah but the money is good for the lab and what is it was a bad thing and it but it's too late you already went down that road so that when I say it's hard to judge people after the fact in hindsight bias and we look back and go how could anybody I've ever had any association with them it's like yeah but that's the stuff now that maybe not everybody knew the extent of it back years ago

shows that when you know somebody say who's gay you're less likely to be homophobic just the exposure to them and so the effect of them up to pass laws to get people to change like to abolish slavery in the United States we needed a war and some 150,000 people died about that and you know sometimes you have to send federal troops like that to desegregate Alabama schools that were segregated and remember the governor you know segregation now segregation tomorrow segregation forever and to make sure you do it sometimes you have to do that most of the change happens from the bottom up of just oppressed peoples saying you know what stop that don't do that I don't like it when you say that and it began with the n-word and just kept expanding where we ended up to today where you have this Big Ben of your microaggressions and so on but there was a logic to it like I'm just saying it's hurtful to do that and most of the effects have been good they've been positive just you know when Ellen comes out on her TV show that. Just a little thing there or when South Park yo makes fun of all different religions you know that perspective on things humor is good television scripts movie scripts the way characters talked you can pinpoint to the decade when a novel was written based on the words that are used to describe Jews blacks and women and but no one said they were going to pass laws to say you can't use these words describe choose by some women we all just change the way we talk about other people in a way that's more liberal that's more all-encompassing that's more egalitarian in that sense and and it's not clear how exactly what happened just incrementally a little bit by bit you know it's just trying to figure out when a word starting to be used it's like it's really hard to 911 or days that I remember in the late nineties there was a couple atheist that wanted to quit using the word atheist atheist and call us the brights we are the brights so that never took off you. Bye-bye trying to change language by Fiat from the top down okay here's the new real we're all going to use this word that doesn't work it's just expanding our consciousness-expanding tomorrow's feared it just including more people in your honorary circle of friends and family members are honorary family members or people that you will treat with respect that that has been happening just tiny bits everyday a little bit here and there and over the decades UCI your people that you will treat with respect that that has been happening just tiny bits everyday a little bit here and there and over the decades you see it when you look back at the numbers like The Thinker does but but it's hard to pinpoint the day that that happened

you know I talk to Ari shaffir yes or I text with all right he's quarantined himself in Maryland weeks he's run out of Edibles and he's not smoking it because he thinks it makes you vulnerable to Corona so he's living like a doing yoga living a clean life that's where there's the most cases in the country right now while they say more cases in the United States and more deaths United States than China and that this scientist was saying that is literally almost impossible you're dealing with a country that has three times the amount of people and it broke out there so this three times the amount of people broke out there that's been going on far longer than it's been going on here and they're saying there's less deaths in China there are here and left infected highly suspect China concealed extent of virus outbreak us intelligence says that's from Bloomberg yeah that should say duh million people missing from their cell phone database there you say it's only 10% of those people yeah what's a is that that's too many people died right what size 10% of that come on man 200,000 people. How many people how many people really died is really only 30,000 whatever they said they say died well they tried to open up movie theaters in the immediately closed the back down again what did you hear that the divorce rate went up shot through the roof and China 3000 does get the f*** out here yeah right come on dictatorship get to decide what information gets revealed in anything that would show them to have made a mistake or to be liable or to be negligent or incompetent is going to be suppressed what's North Korea saying screw question I haven't heard a peep out of North Korea South Korea apparently got on it very quickly they're saying that Germany has the best results they have a very very low mortality rate and they don't know if it's cuz this training see if their system the health of the people there it's a combination of things there you're very good Healthcare System but I think sounds like the thing about the Germans make cars you know so well engineer ISO well-thought-out North Korea claims no coronavirus cases that 18-hole really really what is Tiger Woods world class that would be fun. It'd be able to just tell people everyday like I print this I f*** 9 women last night they were all TENS for a 3800 part 34 by Lil Duval who's the best follow on Instagram right now he's all day has been posting about the the coronavirus and funny memes and s*** but he had one with the the king of Thailand the king of Thailand is sequestered in his palace with eight girlfriends is that sequestered yes it is it's just him and them and just a long bone session how many does he have you feeling any better girlfriends anywhere to stay put that with all those medals are for yes he won the f****** Olympics every year he's holding his dick that is so crazy is something is just different styles of life I think Lil Duval wrote aspirations he took away her military position because she was disrespectful to the queen he made her bow down from everybody you watch the video click it says watch the video you should watch the video he made hers official concubine and ceremony attended by his wife so that was when we met there is official concubine that was one video was another video where he took away the title which hasn't been bestowed upon someone in a long time apparently anyway cuz she she slipped on the tongue because Us official concubine bound down if she can just imagine living like that imagine the whole world he gives her something to eat what she doing she put in her hair like a leading of flower to put behind your ear like rules stuff you have to do this b**** Journeys in front of them I guess lots of different ways to go maybe he's got the best time of the virus Thailand Playboy King taking over luxury German hotel to isolate from the coronavirus along with a harem of 20 women 67 Keep On Rockin in the Free World sir it seems like a lot I guess it's so you know let me know something we don't know yeah he's eating whatever his diet is I need it will maybe it's just like you know this is going to take a long time to get to world leaders was not clear if his fourth wife former flight attendant was even with him right just to blow people's minds with golden underwear on just proposed at the balcony every now and then stand out of the balcony overlooking the city with a glass of champagne with gold and underwear just look around and go right back in sand and some more b****** with golden underwear on these proposed at the balcony every now and then the balcony overlooking the city with a glass of champagne with golden underwear just look around and go right back in sand and some more pictures

yeah it weird to bring a strange strange moment in history as really is something you got to look at like you said something to me when I asked you last week how you're doing you said you just you're just trying to accept and I think that's the key if you can accept it then you can be proactive about it you can be creative about it you can just take whatever life force you have and and you know look at what what what are the possibilities here don't have any expectations that gets Shattered by reality except what it is or this is a new thing now it stay alive be nice to each other and do your best and try to get through this and hopefully at the other end when science and medicine has gotten a handle on this hopefully we can go back to normal life they'll be wonderful but right now we can't so it is what it is if you just want to run around screaming and hollering and freaking out about it and it's not good what would makes me are concerned than anything is what is life going to be like once the economy rolls back again how many people going to be out of work how many business can be shuttered how many you know how how f***** up is it going to be that gives me the most fear of the unknown because I know that a certain amount of people going to get sick in a certain large percentage of going to get better and unfortunately some people are going to die and all that's awful but I kind of see that that makes sense my mind I kind of see a disease people that that all makes sense what doesn't make sense is an economy that stops and then restarts again I've never seen that so for that I'm like what is that like it is I just know model to base it on because our economy today is so much different than it was you know even 10 years ago the international economy it is it's a it's a digital economy there's so much of it that we don't we don't know how it's going to I was going to play out you know and I know that a lot more people are going to stop going I think that businesses are saying oh we don't need offices for 100% of our people and parking spots know we'll just have 50% of people work from home like we just did for the last 3 months at work that would be very cost-effective for people that don't want to have gigantic offices and then also how freed how much Freedom it is if you you can work from home I mean for a lot of people if that's possible that would definitely be preferable Hellyeah I can tell you from writing on TV shows over the years has been some that I've written from home you know what I'm like a consultant that's just handing them I do so much more work when I have to actually hand it in through an email that when I'm sitting in a writers room with 12 other people throwing out of line once an hour on meeting f****** Sushi I mean I work my ass off because I got it yes that's a good point think about that in terms of creation of material one thing I've been guilty of over the last month I've been written Jax yet I might have a couple ideas I wrote down but I really have been riding when I haven't been doing stand-up and I decided what I wanted to do is I want to know what my take on this is the best way I can figure out what my take on it is is just have a natural take on it like actually go through this and and find out what it is first how long it's going to last what what are you what are your thoughts on this and at the beginning I didn't know my thoughts on at work because my thoughts on or stay safe make sure family stay safe friend stay safe you know do whatever you're supposed to do and let's find out how long is going to take what are the experts say talk to some experts what it what's the prognosis look like keeps getting pushed back now it's June have the same June things going to restart June like f*** was that like what is that like for people that are Check to Check 3 months April May June when when is it when is it go back 3 months from now and it's already been a month you know what went what day do june what am I doing 14 you got more cases then what do we do when we do we ever say f*** it was just go back to work what is that like what kind of drunken Wild West parties go back to work and start going back to bars and a different I'll be out in a bar in a nightclub how many people can be pregnant when is this all goes back this going to be a giant loads but we need to make s*** in the way that doesn't destroy the environment and one of the ways they are able to make s*** in other countries is then on the same regulations environmental regulations as they do here that's always been the big problem with shipping stuff overseas they also don't have the same regulations like when the Foxconn Scandal came out and they found out there was gnats around the building to keep people from play where we met, we have the person who makes them makes good living you know the back of the old days when these two have like great cars were made in Detroit they're all made in Detroit and Detroit was his huge City Detroit was one of the richest cities in the country cuz everything got shipped overseas or everything got shipped to two different places the unions are a great Theory they have work well in a lot of ways but they also have huge problems and if there's got to be a way to get unions back in place that can guarantee people health coverage and retirement without making a cost of doing business so high that it hurts the industry I don't know jackshit about finances so I don't know whether not receiving comments on that but it would be nice if he worked it out make s*** in America where we don't have to worry about things going down and let's let's learn from this to learn from this and start making medicine over here why is all the medicine made in China what do we need to balance out we need to balance out for some sort of apocalyptic event we got to be prepared what's necessary and what's luxury and we're getting we're keeping it simple and they're going to come out of it having a better gauge of what each of us needs individually as a country military out of the population don't know ventilators yeah yeah there's a lot of possibles out there that was the things that we wish we were shipping stuff overseas they just destroyed something today that like we were sending metal medical equipment to other countries oh we got stupid about Thailand we were actually shipping stuff to Thailand right now and then it was some kind of mix-up in the government's apologizing about it now

I was just telling the story of when you sent Ben and I to the sensory deprivation tank float tank in Venice and with crash and so I was in the tank and I got to this point where I like started to panic and I thought I was just trying to sort of go somewhere and then I was like open the air vents and I'm going to suffocate and then I got it in my eye the shower do branched out I kind of sat there to towel before I started to panic like you do to the first time today 2:30 that's your Rebel suck my dick who was the first woman to say suck my dick was it was really Paterson great honor sir I believe in you I would be offended by a woman he has gotten that crazy yet the only way I could ever is Metallica touring I don't think so either let's hope that's not the case with this podcast is Injustice the appropriate a peanut brittle last over doing I'm pretty sure I said that it one of the last poker games I played and nobody laughed so I was like

do you think Ferguson and khabib will go down something happens this weekend just in case she's a monster Justin gaethje is a monster he's a monster cetera find individual he is mean in a sport that violent it's an inherently violent sport he stands out as the most violent I mean you watched his knockout of Edson Barboza you watch out that m*********** attacks people he's there's a reckless abandon to his his calculated wildness that is a terrifying he's something special and he's better all the time the question is how much has he been training you taking a fight on very short notice to taken Define essentially two weeks notice also might be kind of weird to train now and is Coronavirus times training Partners I don't know who I respect very much said that Fighters shouldn't be fighting because I don't know what you said they shouldn't be fighting but he said if they do definitely felt it wasn't fair the fighters because they they don't have a full camp and not going to be able to show who they really are. It's a really good point this is you know awhile situation where there's a guy who's going to fight for the interim title he gets to call let me that's also how Nate Diaz beat Conor McGregor and their first fight remember that that was 11 days out they call Nate Diaz he's eating tacos f****** drinking tequila in Mexico and probably doing triathlons but out of shape like you were I would get but for Justin gaethje really depends entirely on how much time you spend in the gym now he's the plan right he's trying to be the UFC lightweight champion so he's probably not getting too out of shape and he probably knew that in this case there is a potential that one of those guys could drop out because they already made that fight for f****** times and it fell apart this is the fifth time it's falling apart which is nuts crazy so it might be the Justin gaethje knew that this was a possibility that he could be called in as a replacement he might be in full Camp mode we really don't know we have to talk to him, turn you all along with probably getting ready but I'd love to see him fight and there's a lot of guys that have been through a full camper there paid for a full camp and they're paid to make weight this is something that's happened several times in the UFC's history we're guys show up because they're their 222 fight and step in if something falls apart especially if you have a guy who made maybe struggles with weight cutting and you might fall apart and get pulled from fight or someone is may be injured or sick and I like a little nervous with this fine we're getting super fights every week we're getting super fights every week do you think on the island

here's a better one Epstein FC's killer that's one nobody thinks that that got hung himself no one how about that guy so if you have various theories are various stories that people come out and talk about with that one yeah and I just actually yesterday listen to Eric Weinstein solopod guessing Jeffrey Epstein I would have been faster in the city because Eric is too smart he's almost like to smart is one of those guys you talk to him I call you poor bastard you're burdened your burden trying to make sense of the world around Apes it Alex and all the trauma of in the yet like we were talking about he still also the 13 the twenty-year-old kid so you seeing he had a few run-ins with authority which makes it which makes him suspicious of authority and I think the r life experience Define that so you can see I've seen in a lot of different ways depending on how you've experienced if you were there tainted a lot of people's reputations basically if you took a picture with them your reputation is Tainted I do think that he was an exceptionally Charming person so he was good Amino the devil's going to be Charming so and the other thing is he genuinely showed curiosity towards scientific ideas even out there big scientifically especially if you ever thought about that intelligence operative intelligence operative part of his job to try to infiltrate the scientific communities and there must have been a directive if he really is an intelligence operative is not like they like hey interest belgians having sex with underage girls you can't be that or the idea of that Erik Bush's Fault by the way I'm talking to him on the podcast I do tomorrow which is why I'm talking about him a lot of preparing for like a three-hour conversation Eric Weinstein which will kill most you have to call people out in their b******* which is very hard to do with their Quest then I checked out ten minutes is that theory I'm so far behind I try to keep up but recognize and I'm not going through and then go back and then listen to it again I hate putting stuff into words simply allergic to saying simple stuff because it's not Bute Woody so he always liked drenches everything in humor and wit and thus like beautiful language was initiated when he's describing complex things he describes him to people that understand complex things. But that's also me this is a criticism is he almost he hates explaining the basics of something hit he just skips ahead right even for the initiated nice to go to the basics. Explain like what are the ground we're standing on skips right into the depth of things which is beautiful but sometimes requires you to listen fall thing is a mess up on the part of the intelligent so they didn't know they didn't know and I know that he felt like he get me remember when this was all started out when he started out doing that it was all before social media right so he probably thought that he had this incredible amount of power because of the fact that he was connected and by the intelligence Community if he was he probably thought he could get away with it makes you wonder you thought that he had this incredible amount of power because of the fact that he was connected by the intelligence Community if he was he probably thought he could get away with it makes me wonder all the horrible things that happened in this world before social media before the spread of information was crazy

LOL X you might be wondering why what I'm wearing on my face I'm not wondering no no coronavirus time everybody so I'm assuming that's what you wearing on your face scientific study of how effective bras aren't filtering around that have put together a survey paper showing that masks work it started as a movement called Max fall #in the Czech Republic that's essentially one of the critical components of stopping the spread of coronavirus is everybody has to wear masks and the Sciences to fold so I mean I need to break this part but cuz there's an audio if you can't get it so much better nice so the before-and-after so you probably shouldn't be wearing a mask when you do podcast definitely not but everywhere else yes that's homemade masks work so there's a shortage of n95 respirator masks which should be exclusively used as PPE personal protective equipment by healthcare workers okay there's also a shortage of surgical masks which are these non-woven fabric masks that work very well for the thing I'm talking about but because there's a shortage of them we should not be buying them and should be saving them for healthcare workers and then open question was whether homemade masks like the one I just described work to stop as a filtration mechanism this is a confusing thing for the individual Centric society that we live in masks are the most what are they actually effective for what they're effective for is to prevent me if I'm infected asymptomatic from spreading the infection to you so that's where the movement of masks for all started which is your mask protect me my mask protects you and that year there is is not I'm not protecting I'm not creating a wall from the Restless I am contributing to the opposite of the bigger aggregate picture of it by not allowing infection to spread so masks is masks allow you to reduce that transmission rate to 1 to blow one so how long you to decrease the transmission rate while also long people to be in public before businesses I know boo Han is back up in business again but there's a lot of criticism about that and they're also saying they're seeing new cases I think the question I think you can be sooner than we think if we do the following things so one I'd hate to linger on this I'd love to talk to you about it but I'll make fun of you right back but just like fanny packs are exceptionally functional to carry on the things you need masks will be massive acquired slow the spread of this infection and would like one of the things start getting Governor's so politicians to wear them at our President Trump to wear them well this is the Boris Johnson and he was talking about you openly now he's in intensive care if he dies that will be the biggest wake-up call for everyone mean I hope he doesn't die but God damn people told me over there I don't know his policies I don't know I don't know I haven't been anyone in a long time I don't know how I feel about him but f*** people some people hate him that I would like saying things like they're hoping he dies he suffers and dies I've read oil the guy wrote woke Tatiana McGrath yeah is he but it was actually his own personal account he published some of the tweets of people have written about you don't have to put it up there I don't want up these people signal but it's just so heartless so yeah that's masks but testing really masks besides like washing hands masks testing and contact tracing so I don't know what it's like an open question what does it take to do that will you can't like that there's a strange effect to it at any other factors as a as an individualistic Society you wearing a mask not to protect yourself but but to protect others and that's the weird thing for us to do the truth that the that this is a nice positive as me wearing a mask says I care about not getting it's a really powerful social signal for when you're hanging hang out with people I think it's going on though I don't think people were just a large percentage of people is my assumption that are wearing that mask that are not wearing it because they think they're going to protect other people they're worried about getting it and I don't think who in the CDC this is where I I hate what they're doing with which is sort of there's truth and that there is ideas of how the truth will be misinterpreted by the public and so you shouldn't tell people the truth so there's a kind of sense like The Who and cdcf said that masks don't work for example or they said that we should be wearing Masters you say them for the healthcare workers at the beginning of the year World Health Organization set on the podcast yesterday it's terrifying stuff and you know and obviously newspapers were going off of that information and they were printing misleading stuff as well and the president didn't know no one know what's at the whole thing is very weird if you're if you're going based on what they were saying it didn't look like it's going to be nearly as bad as it is and then everyone has had to make adjustments I'm actually one I'm so freaked out about the loss of life and the loss of jobs and how people getting SIDS it's it's really weird that everything about it is weird it's weird In Our Lifetime to be a part of something that's just affecting the entire world like this but I've got a lot of messages from friends that are quarantined with their families and like we've never been closer and that we realize that we're in this together because we realize that you know during these crazy times you you realize what is important love that's Lord you were talkin about love and community and friendship make my neighbors have one so nice that one's way even now and everyone's like saying hi and you know talking from Over the side of the yard and how's everything you guys are right and anything we're right here there's a lot of this like comfort and warmth that you know I think I experienced a little bit of that post 9/11 where people get shocked they get shook up and then they realize what matters you know about masks it feels like you're protecting yourself from like you're removing yourself to me there's that look and we're going to wait for me dirty people get away from me so that a germaphobe kind of idea that's not what they are supposed to represent but that I'm sitting here on the science that says we have to all wear them and then thinking like how is that going to change interactions you're removing yourself with me there's a look and I can't wait for me dirty people get away from me so the germaphobe kind of idea that's not what they are supposed to represent but that I'm sitting here on the sign that says we're after all wear them and then thinking like how's that going to change interactions

the virus thing just made me think they got something to my dad a lot about my by my grandfather and just brought it and made it so real to me cuz I studied the World War II a lot especially the Holocaust and all that but they like the fact that just learning about my grandfather just made it so real to me it kind of connected everything together plus there's a book I recommend people read is by Albert Camus the plague that he wrote right after what is I don't know if you know if he is he's like an existentialist philosopher existentialists believe that you know you have to live like life is absurd Life Is Life is suffering and there's no meaning to it all you just have to live the moment and take take each moment as it comes and live it to the fullest kind of kind of idea so he described this town that got overtaken by the plague in the book The Bike and that kind of similar to bubonic plague basically similar characteristics and writes about how everybody's reacts in different ways the main character is a doctor who basically sees the the absurdity of the suffering around him that there's no meaning to it all the sad thing about the virus like with the Nazis and with Wars there's an enemy you can kind of Trace back and understand what was happening with the virus it just seems like you can't come I know where it breaks the spine of the way we think of regular life like some people try to cling on to regular life as if nothing is happening which by the way it's kind of like what a lot of our society is doing right now we're not yet we haven't really felt the pain yet and hopefully won't but there's this kind of dumb the Calm before the storm kind of. And then some people become like more religious they start to search for the bigot meaning of life the material possessions and then the doctor represents the idea that no matter what he he gives themselves fully to his to his craft of helping other human beings and overall there's a story that this idea that suffering is just part of life and the only way there's a natural Temptation when this cruelty and suffering all around you to isolate yourself at 2 to withdraw from life because anything you do in life is going to lead to suffering you know dating like if you get married is going to lead to suffering because eventually you going to lose to the people you love so there's a natural desire to withdraw but in fact what she found the doctrine what he saw around him is that love and compassion like giving yourself fully to the love of other human beings until Community is the only way to what that kind of stuff right but to me it's a really profound story about like about love being the right response in a time of Crisis cell crisis in a crisis that hits everybody that you want to kind of hide from it but it actually were more suffering happens so it's a kind of profound book that Rihanna that I recommend people read most people have read like in Hemet High School for this book called The Stranger but that one in particular seems so connected to an allegory for World War so the plague in that case is the Nazis that it just hits out of nowhere and his book is really popular in 1947 he wrote it World War II I wait to talk about these at the virus that first infects the rats and then affects the week or humans and affects everybody it was the connection and then allegory analogy to the the Nazis and so I saw the connection between now and and the Nazis of course the scale there was World War II was much more intense and and finally just how like fragile this whole damn thing is like that my grandfather had probably is your percentage chance of living you know like most people died most soldiers died in the early years of 19th 1941 when the Nazis basically Stalin was using Russian soldiers and just human beings as human Shields the actress through bodies at the problem so the fact that my dad my grandfather survived his crazy like and I do all these things I'm here talking to you wearing a stupid I like all of that is connected to like he somehow survived all those look really affects me doing research you know I hope compact billions people one day you know think that those like a little Ripple effects on how fortunate I am to be part of that I need is just all seem to be connected to me call those look real Ripple effects me doing research you know I hope to impact like billions people one day you know think that those like a little Ripple effects on how fortunate I am to be part of that I need is just all seem to be connected to me

I don't know what to do with that and I think you're an MMA fan what do you think about the UFC's decision to have fights next weekend on an island was that as of right now I don't have no information Island like I saw it's literally the storyline of enter the I mean this is this is like I don't know who the Bruce Lee is or the Chuck Norris 100% to me I think that's great because it if it's message correctly to show that we are while maintaining sort of social distancing all those kinds of things were trying to fight to bring our society back I fell off a train so there's going to be blood the Celica distancing you want to avoid is large crowds one-on-one so what if everybody gets tested yeah accessible how accessible are test right now 7% of the population of contested that in terms of testing everybody that's not accessible but in terms of testing special like special events yeah by the way John Cena rosenstreich is fight in front of is frightening gone on a f****** crazy fight with one of those guys has positive you know what if Justin gaethje taste test positive obviously have to ask the opponent if they want to I'm a little bit Russian I asked I will go ahead I'll go ahead and so might my main concern is how will the general public interpret it cuz you want to do everything you do now should be done in a way that is one is positive like inspires is for the toys at community and to get to do the right thing scientifically I don't know if a covid infected person fighting would Inspire others to say oh it's okay if they're doing it's okay for me the test everybody yeah that's by the way what contact racing is is Young once you find somebody on it and there's a technology for a mean that that's a really interesting infrastructure there but I still I love that idea that they're pushing forward and I'm doing the fights has a lot of people that are very upset with it it's it's very controversial the whole thing we're on lockdown right now and to them look even Nevada which relies almost entirely on Casino money I mean not Vegas at least Vegas relies almost entirely on Casino money right all the other businesses are so supported by the casino those casinos are shut the fuk down cannot have the fights in Vegas lies almost entirely on Casino money I mean not Vegas at least Vegas relies almost entirely on Casino money right all the other businesses are so supported by the casinos those casinos are shut the fuk down cannot have the fight in Vegas

she gotten a little before that it was Elon about about I think you said that the Tesla said something bad about Tesla not being good about tycoons about Porsche tycan cine lens that is very unimpressed with them but as you reminded me with me and somebody replied with a meme of not a meme a real video of Bill Gates jumping over a chair and they said I don't know I find him impressive and you can't he'll answer yeah that's pretty impressive Tech CEOs of major companies that have the I can be silly like that but you don't use it you don't mean I don't mean it in a positive way sweater with a collared shirt underneath a nerd as somebody as an ideal of a man you're an idiot like I was never like that about a lot of things now you're saying that but about is that science is not admired and ways cuz I've seen the alternative inspiration Soviet Union the way people admire scientists the way they admire great athletes great great creators of all kinds and nerd sometimes diminishes that and in ways that it it seems like a peculiar cork of a human being is just like it's a bit connected to like you know going to Comic Con conventions kind of Nerd VS dork dork dork is rarely positive dorf is good if it's. Self-deprecating car Salvador cost to f****** dork but it's very rare that dork is positive Wars nerd is often positive nerd is like guys science nerd heavy heavy like that's a fun way of saying someone's really smart about a certain thing but but I don't think the way around that is to eliminate words or even using certain words I think the way around that is just appreciate people that are really great at science that's the way around that it's not the words don't really matter its perceptions that matter and I don't I don't think necessarily that science has a bad perception it just doesn't have a glamorous enough perception how many people can name Oscar winners that are just really good at lying there's really good Pretenders but how many people can name Nobel Prize winners in science is very few right exactly and I guess the thing I was also speaking to and definitely keep using the word it doesn't preventing words is what to do with week that I always hated as a person who loves fighting like I like the appreciate like am I like the fact that people complimenting sort of the the pursuit of your scientific curiosity that is great but I just never liked it's good to think I've experienced in this country is nerd as an image is seen as weakness I could get to get picked on and I was and always annoyed me because give me intelligence and annoy me annoy me like lean into it like most people I know are kind of like don't work out much and it and it kind of lean into that idea those people workout is like I don't want to get into their thing those people suck they were always mean to me something like that you kind of create a narrative where like Jiu-Jitsu or fighting is like a brute thing just like you talked about with Greek statues having small penises barbarians with their big penises have a big penis dislike the same thing you don't want a guy with a woman or a guy you don't want a woman who's hot and smart you know it sounds like when people think of really beautiful women they automatically assume that woman's dumb and off of times that is not the case sometimes people just have awesome bone structure and if they you know stimulated themselves mentally if they pursued things that they had an interest in certain scientific or you know esoteric ideas and you things that they had an interest in certain scientific or you know esoteric ideas and you underestimated them you would be Bill really humiliated for super smart but super hot girl put you in your place let you know not only am I hot but tomorrow you stupid

this is the stupidest thing I've ever done a story in the desert with his hand and he asked me what can I do for you the meeting I should be living for he put a finger to my lips and let the old man speak they call me Brian Callahan in this cruel world there is a man you should listen to Reggie Journey on through life his name is Joe Rogan Joe Rogan barrel of snakes for a back really why back I already regret this Joe Rogan Joe Rogan barrel of snakes for by you f***** up you should never done that far no Seraph I forgive you for that thang about regret nothing

don't get in your own head but Let It Go my granddad was a soldier on the front and 41 the bullets took his brothers the sky was filled with fire Millions lost and Flame hate and love for all there in the world now for the same some days will sinking sadness and the way of them to Don't Lose Yourself to Madness the way out is low the New York Towers crumble we were all New York to four moment all just human not the same ol red or blue sapphire they'll never team some days will seem can Sadness the way of them to talk don't Lose Yourself to Madness the way how is llama the virus took our comfort it was never ours to own when the enemy designer together but alone this life is so damn fragile a leased car by the wind but every breath is tragic night I hope within some days will seem can Sadness the way of them to do Lose Yourself to Madness today's will sink in satin the way of them to do Lose Yourself to Madness the way is love

CNN article that was wondering how long it's been around there were saying see if you can find this was covid-19 around Inhumans longer than is currently believed they think it might have existed for months. Years before it broke loose and became a pandemic mutate because it didn't read the article yeah where'd you learn that CNM Library news folks it's the news leading scientist tell CNN that it's what they listen to CNN but they they have perception that other people don't agree with just like everybody else but it may have existed in humans many months even years before it grew into a deadly pandemic CNN's Nick Paton Walsh reports Bellacino's not doing a good job I decide I think the entire will they doing bad the incentives like they're they're choking out the investigative deep investigative journalism this is exactly you said that the clickbait like like look at the title look at the I think they're trying to stay alive but yeah but that's that's a problem I think it is a problem but I think in the defense of particulate online journalism trying to stay alive I don't think it's good time for journalism now I'm bleeding but I from what I understand the only thing that keeps New York Times functional is the podcast the podcast that broadcast it's huge and that the podcast runs a lot of money but that's not that means they need to innovate they needs to be they need to because of the cast we need the f****** York Times though the problem they need to figure out a way to make money off of it but we need we need the top of the food chain journalism right and that's what the x is always we need them so when someone is someone's done something for the times as not-so-good or flawed yeah okay but still not there. That one person that one article whatever it is is not the X the X stands for something right with the New York Times as supposed to stand for what what it always did when I was a kid and now to a lot of people still it's the cream-of-the-crop it's the very best journalism it's the very best is the ones that have the deepest inside the ones that nail It and Weep free of bias but there's by humans you know this is the problem CNN is the problem with any new source but we still need new sources but it's run by humans they need High salaries and there's a huge amount of people involved in making that system that is a CNN so there's several mechanisms acquired first like this podcast here podcast in general require very few people to run now that there's an infrastructure to communicate with a lot of people and then the Wikipedia model like Wikipedia is thousands of contributors that creates extremely strong factual information that's not like this is very little money required to run Wikipedia incredibly so so that there are some out there that are online though that are thriving because of the problems with Legacy Media it's an opportunity it represents YouTube temples of fantastic journalists he's he's really objective you might disagree with them or you might not find his perspective to be in the line with yours but that guy is he holds those journalistic ethics at the highest level to the highest standard with him it's everything and when you read his take on or see him make it take on things he is giving you the most honest objective take on it possible and really hard to get that from a network first of all through the hard to get what he does for a network because you're going to get these giant chunks where he'll heal he can talk about something for as long as it takes to describe what the issue is where is CNN has a segment man that's taking his f****** 7 minutes while you better be done by 7 minutes Trump is bad coronavirus deadly and holyshit Chris Cuomo's got it let's go to Chris he's in his basement and then see Christmas basement with Sanjay Gupta and they're holding up chest x-rays you know they think they have their segments man segments are b******* it's dumb you have these standards that you've created a long f****** time ago and this is the biggest handicap that Legacy Media has other than their inability to be free like a guy like Tim pool is there not independent they can't be free like he is you have too many working pieces too many producers too many people there telling you what the directions say this people that bring you the segments you're a talking head is a lot of s*** going on there man lot of s*** going on there but you have to innovate and make more you need to Aspire to it and not be polluted by other influences but I can see people like I think I'm objective but I have very different views than Tim pool on some things and not others actively so you looking at a thing of Jack till you're being honest about what what it says but you also have preconceived notions of what each individual aspect of that certain thing means and what's good what's bad that's where the subjective aspect of objectivity comes in when you look at certain things that happened there certain ways you can look at something and not have a bias but look at something and you have a preconceived idea of what aspects of it should or should not be tolerated and maybe times it takes someone else to come along so kill why do you hold these beliefs is yet you're absolutely right but the problem is that based on your skill set and your momentum in history you might look at a very particular aspect objectively and not see the bigger picture for sure like Tim pool has revealed and his focus on certain aspects of problems in the system and he continues to focus on them maybe not seeing the bigger picture that's impossible for anyone to see the bigger picture I think like I tend to I-10 to see in a lot of things the beauty of things and it does focus on the positive I focusing on and also the other thing is choosing the ways you talk about it so Louise you reveal that objectivity B+ and B- he can be very cold and fact-based you can be very flamboyant and very kind of excited that use a lot of visual with all those kinds of things in all of that changes the way the message is carried the void that's been created by this distrust and Legacy Media especially now. I don't know if you been paying attention but like YouTube there's so many people like my brother is not like put the camera themselves right and say their opinions that's crazy. It's over million I think it's kind of a lockdown Chronicles I think it's it's a symbol of where we're going right it's your you're becoming but when I do this thing I'm doing this thing for 5 days a week and I'm becoming more connected with people in some weird way that no one ever thought it was ever going to happen before where there's people that listen to my voice right now in their ear while they're running right a lot not a small amount if you could see the actual number of people right now with earbuds in running listening to this podcast ubill at whoa that's kind of crazy they hard you're running into the next Dimension that's what this is and it seems like it wasn't it seems like go on the internet then somewhere along the line came this weird thing that's what it is Now podcast for a weird thing especially one that reaches the numbers of people that this one reaches and for that to be in my hands is a weird position and I'm you know why what's happening 100-count f****** strange this is I didn't anticipate this I always anticipated this being some weirdo Fringe thing that very few people would connect with which line ever tried to censor it at all I tried to do a vast majority of it completely High out of my mind and hang out with fun fun people just talk s*** and have a good time and not have a different perspective some people have a public voice and a private voice. Try to have the same voice just be me just just do that Dad so I tell people when they say what was Joe like behind the scenes that be awesome if you're totally different almost like a super dick behind the scenes yeah yeah that be a bummer or like a totally different person like you put on that mini skirt and this is just one step that we didn't think was a step it's a podcast I thought it was just like a radio show that you doing the internet but it's not into the way humans are going and this is just one step that we didn't think was a step it's a podcast I thought it was just like a radio show that you doing the internet but it's not for some reason it's more involved and more entangled and more intense and then and then also it has an impact right

Healthcare in this is a healthcare issue obviously is so complicated and there's so many levels to it but it means I think one of them that we really have to dress is died in obesity there's a giant problem with diet and obesity in this country healthy food eating eating the proper food and you don't have a friend who said that they were talking about people who do drugs and people who drink and you know maybe they should access to those same Healthcare and maybe that's a good incentive to stop people from drinking and doing drugs and I said yeah what about people do fat what are people who are fat but you're going to use the same logic with them because you can't sat Jame so can you tell hate hate that so you can't get the same Healthcare that a healthy person does well if you get a healthy person who likes to drink and they did run and they did a job but they do like to drink and occasionally smoke a cigarette what are they fear than someone who's morbidly obese yes they are so why would we have a problem is people who don't self-care with a giant problem with that people who don't take the necessary steps personally now is this because of education is it because of ignorance is it because of a lack of awareness of the consequences of an unhealthy diet or eating poor Foods or consuming large amounts of alcohol or tobacco product I don't know what it is but that is a massive part of our Healthcare System is people who are not doing the proper things to their own body in terms of eating nutritious Foods hopefully they can afford in terms of exercise which is free for everybody and there's a lot of things you can do there free to take care of your body chapter 7 in my book I forgot I got to talk about my book and you know part of the part of the deal when we when we are founders wrote out the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and in and built the framework for this free society that we live in where government's role is to protect your rights as fundamentally the government's role you have god-given rights and these are life liberty property effectively speaking life liberty and property Kristen wrote The Pursuit of Happiness and they choose these words really carefully now part of the exchange there is is a necessity for citizens to live with a sense of Duty and to live as a citizen that this idea of citizenship and to do what is right to do what is good it's hard for me to imagine that people are just so uneducated that they don't know that they're unhealthy you know I think I think problem and you're getting it that problem I don't know if that's true I don't think it's that they don't care I think they have no discipline I don't think it's that they don't care there's there's a difference if they'd never been taught to push themselves there's a lot of people it's just so easy to guess that's one of the reasons why I love the title of your book fortitude is what people need and also they need to understand that there's a great value and doing difficult things and this what's it what chapters that is it what do something hard for you will listen man that's like you're a Navy SEAL on you you know it you got it you live it this is what we need we need more people who understand that I know it's hard to get up I know it's hard to do things I know it it's hard for me to but I still do want and you should do them to me it should be something that we encourage everyone to do and that we we all talk and then we all praise each other for and we all get excited about accomplishing these things and taking care of your physical body taking care of your meat vehicle if everybody just did that we would have his health care cost this country will be radically decreased about the fact that they took care of themselves and then had discipline to not overeat and had discipline to to try to choose a foods and to make a meal plan write things down made it can be done this we're not talking about breathing underwater we're talking about things that can be done by the average person like the notion of personal responsibility is talked about enough as it it's almost all the time immoral and I'm feeling and uncaring when we say you know when this whole I go to tell everybody to be pulled ourselves up by their bootstraps and whatever in like not that we use that term but but the point is is that actually important I don't think conservatives have done a good enough job over time explaining why it's so important and personal responsibility troll our own destiny it's if you're constantly in victimhood if you're constantly being told that that you can't control your own destiny that's fundamentally disempowering that's a terrible psychological states and what exact question is do you do you have or things that happen to you or are they within your control or outside your controller it's something like that in Germany the answer was was overwhelmingly things are happening to them outside of their control right like like you understand what I'm saying 3% of people said yes versus in Germany was like 50 or 60% believe we are in control of our own destiny we tend to overwhelmingly say more than European countries that if we work hard and and and play by the rules and do what's right that we will get ahead that we will find that opportunity and I think if you could immigrate right now what's your number one destination will it's the US of a like overwhelmingly the second place is Canada and Germany at like 6% of respondents the USA is like 21% of respondents the second place isn't even close and so for all of the left-wing like anger and and always saying prevalent for all this for all of that commentary it's it just it's just isn't true and so in any of the reason that use crisis language Okay the reason they tell you're going to die in 10 years climate change the reason they're always telling you that corporations are taking advantage of you in the 1% is just all of this policies put into place and you can't justify you can't justify revolutionising the whole system unless you convince people that the system is so bad and so corrupt that it needs to be revolutionized and created is undermining of this notion of personal responsibility if you're going to convince them that they need you to save them to me do you know each to each to their need each to their ability what you're telling people is that they don't have to work that hard but they deserve they have rights to all of these other services from other people it's their right we should distribute out accordingly everybody's perfectly equal what that does is it removes agency from people and it's truly a disempowering thing and we seen this throughout the throughout history because they just want to work hard and move up and they're just so excited about this meritocracy that we've that we've that we've built into our into our culture 8-bit about how communist Cubans come to America in the moment they step foot on soil they become Republicans it's really hilarious that it's true and they do appreciate that that aspect of this country I think you said earlier is that we live in the best time ever in history and I agree with that the consequences of it being such a great time or it's far easier to get by because it's far easier to get by people look for things to be more difficult than they actually are they look for things to be more stacked against them than they actually are they look for more of a woe-is-me standpoint when you find people that actually have a real difficult life they look for things to be hard they find hard things everywhere they look and often times you find those people that have a real struggle that it's a great documentary called Happy People by Werner Herzog it's about people live in Siberia and it is a brutal difficult existence in extreme cold but these people are overwhelmingly happy and it is really crazy documentary because their physical and their struggle just existence just to survive is so difficult that they found the sort of perfect vibration of existence where they're in the wilderness they're out there trapping and hunting and fishing and and farming and in and Gathering up enough food to survive in the extreme Winters and it's it it really shows you that human beings need difficult tasks we need things to be tough to do and we need to we go out there and do them to have a feeling of satisfaction and have a feeling of personal responsibility and the fact that you've actually done the things that you needed to do in order to survive it's built into us cuz I wouldn't wish that upon anybody I'm not saying you need to get blown up in the face and lose an eye to have the sort of Spiritual Awakening and how good it feels to go through something hard but you should you should have bitchily move into a a self-imposed suffering you're about to say something that have gone through as military or First Responders really difficult physical tasks to get to where you you are just that alone creates character creates a different kind of person and the type of people that gravitate towards those Endeavors those dishes they're special people they are but I didn't write this book for them and for everybody and Glisan seals have our hard thing and it's buds underwater demolition / SEAL training at 6 months of hell and it is it pushes you beyond limits you you ever thought you had hell week especially when you're done with that when you when you come away from hell week there really is the sort of Spiritual Awakening that you have higher confidence you feel prepared for anything even in the some of the worst situations you can think to yourself well it's not quite hell week is it much more perspective relaxing in perspective quite a bit also chapter 2 is is called perspective from Darkness Highpoint the stock doubt that too many of us have have gotten so comfortable we we removed suffering from our life to such an extraordinary degree and that's not a bad thing that's an element of the modern times that we live in and I'm happy we live there but the reality in my life I'm complaining because when I'm at 30,000 ft flying through the air to Wi-Fi isn't as fast as I'd like it to be like so we have very different complaints and it's good to every once in awhile just think you know what I have a pretty damn good and to remind yourself of that again to do something hard chapter is it's one of the Deep dive into the psychological literature which I just enjoy doing there's a or the Bible with all of these all of these texts these these ancient pieces of wisdom that have been around for a very long time they all talk about this bill talk about the value of suffering the value of enduring an Archer how this build character and it's actually quite literally makes you stronger and do something with a metaphysical sense in a psychological sense and a physical what hardship actually does but physically and metaphysically like those real real benefits to this but you have to do with Joe Rogan's wife because their true life experiences to bolster those those lessons but it just has to be harder than what you did yesterday and maybe it's physical you feel tougher the rest of the day there's you like you know what I just sat and 10 minutes of icy cold water I didn't do that the day before but I did it today and now I feel a little bit more like a badass like you know what I feel like it's small things it's this self-imposed suffering is so important for a lot something and I'm just saying you have to find that in and make it habitual can't just be warrants either the seals can gets off to we we all know that if you know we know who those guys are and because they stopped stopped listening from the value of self-imposed you have to find that in and make it habitual can't just be warrants either cuz he gets off to we we all know that if you know we know who those guys are and it's because they stopped that they stopped listening from the to the lessons from buds into the value of self-imposed suffering

so what's your take on what we're going through right now Dan for everybody in the future this is day it's basically a month into like extreme coronavirus lockdown for the country at all started sort of in the beginning of March now here we are in the first week of April and everybody stir-crazy and weirded out by this including me and I'm sure you as well what would it what is your take on this wow weekend where everything all of a sudden shift that it was the March 14th weekend I remember that weekend cuz it was my birthday and I remember how everybody was basically still going out to bars and restaurants and then all of the sudden everything changed I think the entire Paradigm chain and a long time how we got there might my general take on it we we are in a what I would call a tactical Retreat so many is a military term there to describe what we are doing we all of the sudden ran into a hail of gunfire okay like I think about this in military terms of gunfire we're not really sure what hit us we have a basic idea we know who they are we know the General Lee what the enemy is but we weren't quite sure how to combat it talk to anybody don't don't touch anybody to maintain that social distancing lock things down as a slow the spread in allow our backup are far help Public Health System to catch up at a certain point we have to come out of that tactical pause we have to come out of that Retreat and start engaging in the enemy a little bit and we do that slowly we do it carefully and so I think that's the I like to look at it that way into a risk mitigation strategy and we're ramping up our production of things like ventilators of PPE testing capability in order to do that there's some talk of when this is going to end and I don't know how you even make that distinction how how does one make a decision and it seems like one of those things were once it starts once you lock a country down and tell people stay away stay home. work don't do anything unless it's very Central at grocery stores hospitals media there's a certain things are allowed to be done right now when is that end and how does one decide when that ends from the public health perspective I hear them say certain things like after 14 days of a downward Trend in cases than we can start reopening AR is less than 1 then you can start reopening so are being less than one man very contagious person they infect less than one other person right now that numbers are at just over to okay so there's there's an obvious spread that occurs using those as our standards I would like to see a fuse other standards as well such as are we at a point where were testing and we have enough ventilators and little bit space and PPE to actually fight the virus alongside reopening our society because we cannot indefinitely walk down those costs are enormous and 401ks in our jobs can't do much needed surgeries procedures because you know what's called an elective surgery is going to be kind of agraria it's a lot of stuff isn't getting done from public health side into account elective surgery is going to be kind of agraria a lot of stuff isn't getting done from the public health side jobs there's divorce rate for suicide we have to really take all of this into account as we as we talked about 1 to reopen Society

yeah I feel it resilience is almost like a muscle it's something that you can build and it's also something they can get soft and I think that I look I love Comfort don't get me wrong but I don't appreciate it unless I've done something difficult you know if you look at like all the different things I do and say all you real productive and it's nice dude I also like to watch TV I like to put my feet up I like to kick back like to have a beer I like to relax but I don't like to relax if I'm not doing s*** I know me and I get mad at me if I'm not doing anything I don't like me when I'm not productive but when I am productive I also can enjoy to relax I enjoy relaxation and I don't enjoy it unless I've learned it and I think that's what people need to do these you need to earn their comfort of Shame I already know all this because it's true all right now I'm I'm I'm trying to give these lessons out in the clear and coherent kind of fun way but these things are just rude you feel bad when you don't act the way you envision yourself to be but you have this hero archetype I talked about your architect for you have this idea of like what you think is the right way to be you're trying to live up to that all time we often fail make your own if you've seen how how successful people are in your like I want to be like that maybe doing comedy or fighting or whatever it is I feel like they have a way of doing something that maybe I should mendicancy built this overtime and you know when you you know only you know really when you when you don't meet that standard we don't meet that standard there should be a degree of shame that you feel this is a problem I viewed in society anymore it's almost the opposite and it went when you do when you don't feel bad shame you can't feel a sense of Duty to be that citizen that we talked about earlier and I find this to be a big problem that you know what the small stuff like examples in the book like you should feel shame when you're that person who doesn't put the shopping cart in a little shopping cart section parking lot but like why won't you just want to just put it away and worse and if you don't put it away because you're in a rush you know because your kid is screaming and if you have a good reason not to put it away but the question to ask yourself is did you feel bad about it right did you feel bad about it and if you didn't feel bad about it what the hell is wrong with you this makes him mad at us like a damn easy to do just just put it back b**** just walk it over there put it in the little stall and you feel better like look I did it I seen what I do I bring all the way the fuk back to the supermarket, I put it back in the front steps take much time and I feel like I did something even if it's just a trick the grocery store doesn't even have to put those little sections out in the parking lot they could just tell you to put it walk it all the way back on the door. The reason why I like the little stalls is cuz of people that do have kids if there's a mom and she's got a baby with her gray give her an out a way out or hire some kid to gather those things up while people are walking out with them fine but if you're just a guy and you know you're shy for yourself and you don't put your car back f*** you you knowing that sense of shame that you're talkin about that there really is important people need to feel shame if you've come up short like that because you can do better you can do better and you should want to do better the way to get back the way to get ahead in life is to do everything that way the way you do everything is the way you do anything the way you do anything is the way you do everything with me that's really what it is if you just do the right do it the way you're supposed to do it you can do it and you'll feel better if you were supposed to get a workout in today like to sleep in and get your ass up and do it and you'll feel better when it's done you like damn I did it I can do this tomorrow to you can and its momentum and just developing that momentum it's a skill it's like everything else it's like learning how to be polite it's like learning how to be cordial learning how to be a nice person these are learn things you can't except that you're a piece of s*** and this is just the way you are no just look at yourself as if you were another person judging you like as if you are a person who's like a life coach judging you what would you tell you to do the psychology behind it but the problem is his like we've I feel like we've removed shame in our culture 2 to a huge extent to wear towards the most celebrated to you know to do these wrong things and one part I do bring up the example of of of how we view you know assistants on government assistance and there's the movie Cinderella Man where Russell Crowe plays the whatever the name is a boxer but we also believe that you shouldn't take it if you don't need it that seems like a pretty good good piece of in a civic duty to live by and experience leaving the Navy where we were actually encouraged to get on Social Security disability insurance as I was leaving the Navy so I was in a classroom full of the only one with a visible injury or is obvious as to why I'm being medically retired and they're all getting medically retired and by Nature getting medically retired from the military Insurance even though every single person in their walk right out of that classroom is perfectly capable of working was so frightening to me that it was that it is so ingrained in our new culture that it said it was actually in the curriculum at a government classroom and in this kind of stuff is cheered on being the sort of hoaxes that we've seen her why did jussie Smollett feel that he had to say that to Maga guys in Chicago what was enough what the underlying psychology behind that was because we change the definition of right and wrong and I and I see a need to get us back to some traditional definitions before we all lose our freaking Minds a very good point I think what you're saying is absolutely correct I think victimhood should be if you are an actual victim me and I feel for you it's terrible but if you're not a victim and you're playing up victim but it's disgusting it's one of the gross things that you see in our culture especially when we're talking about how easy Society is now when you have a person who is affluent and successful and famous like jussie Smollett who does that and you like Jesus Christ man I boarded you missed the point that's why it's so foul for us when we see someone who's just trying to be for their own personal gain their trying to game the system and make it out like victim of the grossest things that you can see in a successful culture and its people out there that wheelie are injured like yourself from combat this people out there that really are sick people out there that are really victimized by violent crime and to fake it it's such a it's such a disgusting insult to people that actually are injured real victims in victimhood culture capable of work yet I'm kind of blind and like I can't see even out of my good eye but I can work I'm not shown that I can work why would I take that but that wouldn't be just so that wouldn't I think I would go against their classical definition of of what is fair and just and yet in our current culture I do I don't believe that anybody would call me after that and I should be called out if I had taken that money I really believe that I do I don't believe that anybody would call me after that and I should be called out if I had taken that money I really believe that just because I was already getting benefits right as a result but

yeah we you and I privately had this conversation through text messages about the way reporters are using this moment to criticize Trump with with in Ridiculous Ways and one of them was this questioning of whether or not he should describe these drugs that have some promised which many doctors are describing hydroxychloroquine with the Z Pack and zinc apparently combination that keeps getting brought up and there's a doctor that has been using this to some reported success in New York City but what drives me crazy is that these are rare opportunities that someone has to talk to the president and they're using it to chastise him for bringing up drugs that do show promise and hope he's not telling people to go take it he's not advocating it he's not pretending that he's some sort of the medical professional he's just talking about some things that show Pro in the medical community you know what what is your take on all this cuz this is it's a it's a it's a weird situation that he finds himself in with the Press is very strange and antagonistic position we think we should be worth it mean to be a good American a good citizen the Press believes it is their duty to only be adversarial to to politicians mostly conservative politicians they don't treat them across the same way but educated Sapulpa full context full understanding of what's going on not press briefing room and actually asked legitimate questions that would inform the American public but but they don't they play he's got you again the last questions like what do you want to say to people who are upset with you right now and I think they're failing us miserably and then there's the opportunism that occurs like if you're writing an APA if you're a journalist writing an op-ed what's an opinion journalist especially but you always do that in direct questioning with the president just to try and play this gacha game it's not helpful helpful and it's not informing anybody in the least you know you mentioned that the president talking favorably about the floor clean or hydroxychloroquine and you remember the the couple that ingested that out in Arizona because spayed or something like that might be misspeaking bowl cleaner fish tank cleaner weather in Mass it'll actually work but but to express optimism over it to two after each other in the worst of ways and a new ability to do that I mean this what is with these new tools that people have to social media and through making these viral video clips which is what each reporter is hoping is there going to accomplished by being combative with the president and trying to catch him on something they're hoping that they're going to create this viral video that's going to accelerate their career it's very self-aggrandizing it's and it's disturbing that there's there's not someone who stands out what does the sort of press junkets that doesn't do that actually right about that exact point in my book like this what we've begun to do is reward this sort of overly passionate emotional Behavior so we've replaced sophisticated reasoning with outrage we grew up this way and there's there's like fictional characters like the Jedi hero archetype or Superman or or like or like real characters like Rosa Parks that we actually look up to and we identify and in our in our current outrage my culture like we see somebody who plays the victim and we cheer them on reality what we used to do is he somebody who overcame adversity who was the true hero in the wee cheer them on when we totally reverse that you actually get more points if yours more snarky if you're meaner if you're if you're if you're playing this kind of cheap shot game and like it in my book this example of like these these this group of Veterans Day they were waiting for me I knew something was off because we never wear the gold letters that say veteran on it don't I thought that was strange and it turns out they were just getting their own video camera ready to record and then they start calling me and like just go nuts like they lose their minds talking about Trump in the news play and I kind of engage with them and some funny ways but they were extremely emotional I'm either voice is starting to crack it was about you or to you how could you how could you how could you betray the country by supporting the president of me things like that mostly sloganeering like this call me while walking my boo that the scenario and then they like and then there's this whole deal where I have to get the elevator because that's how I get to the books like I leave my my office on the fourth floor and Cannon I take the elevator down the basement I walk across my route and that you think that you that you have to use as much emotion as possible and it's been express your anger in in the most exceptional of ways otherwise it's not worth listening to but we haven't stopped as a culture and we have to stop rewarding and that's what I thought. Rewarding that kind of behavior actually control good for you but you talked about them and that's what they wanted that means there's so many groups out there that I don't even know if they have an endgame that the endgame seems to just get attention and you know and Shine the Light on these atrocities or whatever whatever they feel like is in Frosty

China yeah so I just mentioned that one that story that just came out which is what they actually prevented PPE from being delivered outside of China so together we are our company's 3 and they produce that there should have been exported out they prevented that there was a study that showed that if they had if they had actually been honest and given us through the world three weeks extra notice 95% of the spread could have been contained okay 5 million people all over the world the reason this became so bad in Italy and Iran is because of the belt and Road initiative these are major Hotspots for China's Economic Development and the belt and Road initiative so the World Health Organization better can't even be transmitted human-to-human contact on January 30th World Health Organization said something along the lines of there's no reason to be shutting down travel or limiting travel so they're directly controlled by the Chinese government the World Health Organization it should also be worth noting I forgot the guy's name who but he's from Ethiopia Ethiopia is one of these countries that is huge as a huge investments from the Bell Road initiative until I mean we'd to be calling for a complete complete change out leadership of the WHL yeah he shut his connection off and then he said China doing a great job let's move on and you know like what very weird so deeply corrupt I so deeply and I mean point where there was the progressive left in the Chinese just repeated it latched onto it but this whole notion that it's racist to call the virus the Chinese virus was it was such an utterly absurd thing that we were focused on as a country when it just doesn't matter reading that quite a bit in February so they're doing things like that then they claim that perhaps it was the US Army that had started the virus in Wuhan they haven't let International inspectors go in and investigate the origins of this virus that we can better understand it they said there's going to be there already is quite a few things that were looking at it as what we can do to one rebalance or supply chain but we need a better industrial policy on bring a lot of important manufacturing back home and can be more competitive than that sense is there any evidence that this was a man-made virus you know this is the big conspiracy theory that they would have a level four bioweapons lab in Wuhan viruses like this anyway yeah we just we just don't know the answers and I don't you know especially my position I don't want to I don't want to assume to the need to manufacture things in America and I think both I think he's received skepticism from both the left and the right on that for different reasons mostly come to write because you know we we we have we have really good here very closely to the free trade where where the more free trade the better where where somebody else can make it cheaper than then we should just have them make it all right is comparative advantage and that's true in theory it is true but but we can't ignore the consequences and I think we have ignored those consequences for a little too long like what what happens when you when you close down that factory your t-shirts are cheaper per unit which is the really big deal for the margins but it's like a psychological benefits of these manufacturing jobs as well you're creating something people like that people like to feel like they're producing something and that they have meaningful work that pays pretty decent and so there's consequences and there's consequences to the efficiency big big Dire Straits right now we risk we risk the possibility that we lose energy into between Russia and Saudi Arabia now hopefully I think administration's Melodies and diplomatic pressure and figured that out but no but balance right now maybe yes and maybe we do need to look at changing our supply chains maybe that means some things are just slightly more expensive maybe that's what it means but for for a lot of element for a lot of items we have to be looking at the consequences of allowing us to have things manufactured over there what kind of karma do we take on for when you look at Foxconn those buildings were they made got your iPhone live net surrounding to keep people from jumping off a how many people have to jump before you put Nets up and like what what what has to happen there where you were your your life suck so hard to make an iPhone and how much would it cost to make those here is it worth it for us and you know is there some the real value in that the label used to love to look for made-in-america there that's that's not really that much anymore I think it would be wise for all of us to invest in that ID again in the problem is is like we we hold ourselves to those standards of good labor conditions and good environmental standards and we but we punish ourselves and was out of business completely until we punish ourselves out of business sometimes the energy sector whatever it is because we we we we simultaneously make ourselves less competitive while also forcing our people to compete against people who are who work their employees so hard but they have to build nests around for office they throw themselves off of it one that we just accept because we want an iPhone and I mean apples one of those profitable countries the company's rather the world ever known made is a spectacularly profitable company and it like there's a hole in government policy and and they do but I'd like to do more the reason they don't is because when they put out that job application nobody will show up early is not enough people and so-and-so what the what does that tell you it it tell you that we we're not educating people in the skills that are necessary to engage in these jobs is a lot of technical skills that we are not teaching because education policy Federal Loan program student loans why are we promoting things and Majors that actually get us to a higher-paying job why why should the taxpayer be on the hook for a major that is guaranteed not to pay anything once you graduate like what you going to do with that degree in whatever who knows you're not useful for the economy that that we want and so what kind of incentives need to shift is my is my point to encourage more that so that Apple when they do look at a place to build a new Factory they can be they can be confident that people actually show up to work there

quotes out there from media and from from from pundits from Twitter users am I in my my fear that it continues to be said okay you know and it prevents us from having a reasonable debate because we we truly need to have that reasonable debate the other the other thing of frustrates me about these kind of bad faith argument is that the people saying them made the same claims them self like a February 1st Washington Post headline in the coronavirus okay February 1st coronavirus is scary but the flu is deadlier in more widespread day February 3rd Washington Post why we should be wary of an aggressive government response to coronavirus the same papers are now destroying the present all you didn't act early enough you didn't do anything it's if you have the blood blood of people on your hand but like that's amazing who says it's not safe to travel to China so this is falling President Trump's extremely at the time of very bold move to restrict travel from China and of course all of these papers and prominent people are now saying something different I go through a timeline to buy look at because it ended my continue to accuse everybody how this is this is a good one on the same day that that Trump implemented the restriction on travel this was January 27th okay and then January 31st asare the prettiest the 31st the Trump Administration implemented the restriction on travel January 31st and also declared a public health emergency on that same day promoted a bill call Dino bandak you could limit the president's ability to impose travel restrictions that's interesting and then act like this when you remember this too and I pointed this out at the time because you know a lot of people were not talking about coronavirus in February and on February 28th which is a few days before February 28th already been spent by HHS by CDC that needed to be reimbursed so the Trump administration's or even dealing with this matter like a congress we need more money we need more supplemental funding he got slammed cuz this was earlier in the week we actually voted didn't know and I I just want I just want to point these things out because it's important to give each other to Grace to be like hey not everybody knew what was happening it wasn't until early March that it was exploding as a virus Tintin in Tehran and Italy and in South Korea he's things happened and it wasn't clear that there should be massive massive lockdowns play hindsight and enacting a holier-than-thou and point fingers but if it's highly disingenuous and I and I built this whole time light out to show it from grace and and solve these problems together because it will be very easy to blame each other for the deaths of Americans no matter what the decision is it will be easy because the counterfactual is impossible to prove it's so easy that political opportunism is so easy is is what worries me the most and like we have to have this conversation so about reopening society and when to do it and we have to have the conversations about this political opportunism and shaming it and and calling it for what it is and then really being honest with those quotes in the Washington Post a New York Times USA Today and letting people know know we didn't know what this was we didn't see it coming and when it was coming we were real confused as to what the consequence going to be and we're also not getting on his data out of China right China is just a day or not honest about the body count they're not honest about any of it we don't really know what happened over there the version that we're getting is got holes in it it yeah let's talk about that I did find a quote that I told you I had the wrestler victims of Trump's stupidity and narcissism prominent Washington Post this is from a prominent Washington Post columnist I'm not choosing random Twitter users you know New York Times President Trump was so focused on fabricating threats involving Central American Caravan that he was oblivious to the real threats so

so maybe discuss is is the balance that that needs to be talked about in this is where I would have taken the conversation from earlier about the media old people please take care of yourself stay home that provide assistance to get you food or do whatever they can to get to you but people that are high they want them to go out and live their lives they don't want the restaurants to shut down the pub to shut down this is a disease that you know it's ravage people of all nationalities and the old age and demographic groups but they're their ideas take care of your health be careful but let's get Society back on its feet again and they're widely criticized by that I would love to hear what you think that's a good strategy or not but there's three different strategies okay and there's a Harvard white paper that that delineates these pretty well I spoke with one of the professors from the center of Ethics that that was an author of this and you can describe these three strategies in the following way jump to the third one the third one would just be surrender okay let it happen will deal with it as we go but we're not keeping anybody at home that's effectively what Sweden is doing the second option would be sort of a mix of the two which I think will end up being the American option or better will should be where we have a defined. Where we remain in place but then we we confront the enemy and like I said we're in a tactical Retreat right now but I need to be prepared to do it Sweden took on the third approach which is like the basically they they think they can deal with it and we're going to see now their cases are jumping up pretty dramatically I don't know how much they'll continue jumping up the swedes are also very good at culturally following the rules Americans don't like a lot of rules I sweeten the swedes will stop at a red light at 2 a.m. cultural differences I think their social cohesion or ability to follow rules I like the Koreans is it different than our culture where we are we are just way more individualistic and we're going to do whatever the hell we want we want to flamethrower in our office organizer flamethrower at our office like don't tell me I can't have it right yeah it's always better lets you want to start a fire without the situation is move to that rather quickly now we need to be careful about how we do it but I'm very very concerned about these indefinite extension of the timeline to stay in place I think I think we have to start having reasonable conversations about the cost of that in the cost a lot more than just dollar sign the cost or hell of a lot more than just people's 401K is tanking the costs are actually people's lives also whether it's mental health or suicides are divorced or Applebee's all these procedures that we're just putting freezer so like and I have a lot of problem with this place is like Houston or hospitals are not overwhelmed 50% capacity prone to this giant City with enormous density the most it's the densest city in the country by far is also the most likely place that a lot of international Travelers were coming in and out of New Orleans will they had Mardi Gras these numbers in the wrong ways and not taking enough into the account into the fact that it we just we have very different lifestyles in different parts of the country and also take into account that we can Target certain Solutions once you slowed the spread by doing what we're doing again I'm not against doing what we're doing I just think we need to stick to the timelines and maybe make those time on sooner than later and then come out and fight what does fighting mean while we're in wait we're basically we're ramping up production of protective gear or ramping up production of ventilators again our system is as amazing we are producing we're going to be do the numbers before or talk about socialized medicine like one of the benefits of our system is we are actually way better prepared than people realize now we have a big lack of PPE there's a lot of reasons for that I can go into one reason is that China was stopping for from 3 a.m. for the rest of the world uses a lot of it in China are preventing those experts who they want before the supplies then they act like the good guy and go around the world giving it out and then trying to ask if we're going to have to really look at the door supply chains in our relationship with China after this but that's one of the reasons we didn't have the proper amount of PPE president is everybody's micromanaging boss and that's just not how our system works nor should it and there has to be some level of accountability of the local and state-level to again I just got the phone with some of the doctors here at the Texas Medical Center and I'm like how are you guys on PPE and they're like we have so much PP what I've noticed and all the finger-pointing and in a lot of it's just political opportunism I don't know if you if you like if you do put these people at school lie detector test I wonder if they really think it would be the president's fault that this happened like I don't I don't think they could pass a lie detector test and I think it's I think it's a lot of political Pediatrics but in any case it's away from the right way to look at power levels like California wants to try a single-payer healthcare system let's see it work in California or smaller say and then let's let's Skate City and then let's go it's it's it's it's a matter of the scale matters to a huge extent and socialism works if you got maybe like 50 or 60 people cuz you can hold each other accountable there's a little bit easier to maintenance when you scale things out of dramatically changes things we have to remember that as it pertains to dealing with the pandemic and dealing with public policy as well into a system where were simultaneously combating the pandemic but also reopening our economy we have to have that in the natural reaction from disingenuous people is well how many lies is it worth to save a job and I'm like okay that's not the right question also misses the point you know we we live in a world where we take risks and then we have to take those risks and then mitigate those risks accordingly and we can better mitigate risk and we better understand what we're dealing with and when we're better prepared and those are the two things we have to do over the next month new beds where they might be needed any more generators anymore PPE so that's preparedness side and on the other side it's just like you know like you'd explain in Sweden with cheap sick and vulnerable people away let's target are our efforts a little bit better listen to him or vertical approach as opposed to horizontal approach that's a terrible way to think about it I mean I I can moralize this situation so I could save 30000 live this year because I'm not going to let anybody drive and I am a better person than you because you have the blood of 30,000 people on your hands cuz you won't people driving yeah that's where it's not at all know you're you're absolutely right and I'm worried about that when we do go back I'm worried about that finger-pointing I really am because I think it's just going to muddy the waters and I'm also worried about it being used as political opportunism

remind everybody of this with their start to the drug price discussion that bill that hr3 bill it won't become law because it wouldn't hurt get bought out by the bigger companies that support system works and it's a very dynamic system it's it's it's why we RV by far the number one innovator in the world know what our country innovate like we do I don't do the research like we do if we implemented the price controls that are inherent and medicare-for-all or hr3 there wouldn't be anybody else in the world doing what we do should we have Medicare for all doesn't coronavirus prove that everybody should have free healthcare and again what I would have to remind everybody is is that if we had medicare-for-all what we're basically talking about our price controls because Medicare already pays below average payment for for anything before whatever service were over for whatever doctor visit 60 70% on the dollar right now what was the Medicare senior program at 65 and make sure that their basic needs are covered in terms of sickness illness injury and such and we could argue that we could we could even debate the merits of Medicare on its face would be available for everybody if Medicare for all was available for everybody what you're saying is it was essentially you you would fix prices on on everything in terms of medical treatments and and that would be a problem because of what will soap Sherman said that your podcast could could only take $100 for at and I was just the price fixed for now on what incentive would you have to really expand your audience what would you have to keep going or expand the business you wouldn't be able to it's similar under any industry it wants you to fix that price on you're going to reduce the supply that goes in I can only get $100 for add the reason why you would say that the sting shouldn't cost too much for someone who's injured or sick it's cuz we want to take care of each other as a community and the ideas that Health Care should be something that we we provide so many services to people that we we we are united right the United States of America we're supposed to be a gigantic community and one of the great things that we could do for each other is to make sure that if someone's sick or injured and something's wrong that we can take care of that like everybody do their share and we would like everybody to chip in so that this is possible but there's a big difference between that and fixing the price on an ad no but not economically there's no difference morally there is write instead of just an economic issue the reason I don't describe is it it's not in your right it is both a moral and a Mexican guy that is fundamentally true it is fundamentally another country we have overwhelmingly per capita more ICU beds in this country than any other Western Country overwhelmingly per capita we have more ventilator than any of these other people were all girl freaking out right now and in our ICU beds on a per-capita basis our system has way way more than the UK than Italy in Spain to Germany all of them like like orders of magnitude for also we're the ones who Innovative in the vast majority of research and development new drugs that come out that comes from this country so these are these are facts that we can escape if we do price controls and medicare-for-all is fundamentally a system of price controls if we do that economically speaking we absolutely will reduce Supply we still want to help people to do that good parts of our healthcare system which is quality and Innovation if we undercut those things were the last country doing this for the last country in the world truly doing Innovation either the world is left out the drive is there a way to do both is there a way to provide Healthcare to everyone but also encourage this Innovation and current profit so you encourage these companies to do all these great things you're describing and and and May in this incredibly high level of healthcare that we have right now that that's certainly the goal right in and that that should be the goal in this is why I think there's there's got to be room for compromise on the health-care debate because you can't compromise with the other party if the girls aren't the same difficult it is to get to that point while also ensuring that we maintain quality and Innovation so well I'm working on personally is is the primary care side of things because her primary care doctor is your bet your first point of contact in healthcare and the system that I think works best for that has direct Primary Care subscription fee of about $75 a month and they have full access to you so it's like less than a cell phone bill this already exists this model is prevalent it's growing I would like to see a girl much faster to how do you do that when we can't subsidize lower-income people in order to do that how we do that is very complicated what are healthcare costs like like you and me we can still afford that just like we afford any other monthly cost and you have access to preventive medicine you have access to telemedicine you actually have a doctor-patient relationship that makes it a lot easier to start solving the rest of the problem making our insurance Market more competitive companies that came out to be a lot cheaper than we originally thought it would in the early 2000s went when this thing was created this was a republican plan because Foundation that I think we have to adhere to and the other thing I pushed back on a little bit is is the healthcare is a right statement and I push back against that obligation to serve you not exactly no I mean wait wait we have public services that I would distinguish those public services from something like Direct Care and it doesn't change the mission of the military right thing away from them but these nonrival economics term for the sort of non rival attribute of these things it is different right because it's only a select number of doctors and we were burned out more price controls reduce supply and supply reductions in other countries girls don't get the same amount of money they're not going to rest in that extra I see you better not going to buy those extra ventilator they're not going to hire those other doctors eye doctor doesn't want to be a doctor because they don't make them out of money that they thought they would make their doing extra work because there's more people who now have access to them but there's less of them so wait lines are huge and they're seeing multiple more patients a day doctor burnout increases quite a bit quick answers to why why why that happens but that's our human rights issue it did we we kind of moved around with that The Vig either different than the fire department or the police department or well it's not a right either actually those but the fire department's not necessarily A a right as we would be the same if it's provided for everyone from a practical standpoint just because it's much easier again you cannot hundred thousand people more to your city and the fire department would have marginally more more work to do you know compared to like a doctor for instance it does that make sense like you just it doesn't that that nonrival attributes matter it matters quite a bit so what you're saying is because competition is necessary with medical Innovation and also like doctors profit off of being exceptional so you you they have incentive to be an exceptional no know what I'm saying is if you have if you have 10 doctors that's better serving the community every time that doctor is serving somebody that means somebody else can't see them signal that we need more doctors they're understaffed would be yes but I'm saying that's how it's different from a fire department which is sort of lying and wait for a fire to occur it would be a signal for there to be more doctors which is why the free-market price price points are so important because the only way to signal that is to actually there that demand raises prices when the government tries to do that is a socialist that they would say never works never ever work the Government Camp Spell omniscient as to know every single price signal and and anticipate every single piece of demand and production that is therefore required until they know it's not just health care that this is a problem it's every aspect of society so if I can go back to what you were saying earlier you said hey let's make the the government take care of everything was take money from the wealthy people and pour it into the government that the government will then have sources take care of these issues and you you're just looking at the first step of the problem you're not looking at the secondary or tertiary once you do Implement that first step is that we're saying hundred percent what I'm saying socialism doesn't believe in incentive doesn't believe that we need incentive to do things there's there's there's this utopian believe from the hardcore of philanthropic manner no matter what right now maybe for a few people if you altruistic people would be the ones you know doing all the work while everybody else is like pretending to work which isn't happening the Soviet Union you pretend to pay us we'll pretend to work right that was the saying from the Soviet Union these policies then we're not thinking through them correctly and I understand a lot of democratic socialism and I'm like yeah but it but it has very socialistic Tendencies effects of removing human incentive of forcing somebody's services and because you're calling it a right which means that you now have a right to somebody else's services I've been proven not to work and I and I and I think we and I think we have to understand that as we try to move towards the mutual goal of getting everybody access to healthcare department is in the fire department in a lot of ways a socialist Institution specific emergency service as a as a public good they come in and help you there's not a financial incentive for them to do so right but I've been a practical level on a practical level though imagine the scaling that has to occur if you're if you're doing that with medic with medical care they were talking about over what you're talking about socialism overall not just overall not just involving medicine talking about socialism in general and I'm saying isn't the fire department and example of socialism that works example of socialism and the people have these as a basic part of our society and our civilization this is an important discussion to have because oftentimes even Democrats aren't really talking about socialism doesn't call it socialism about Democratic socialism and you make some very clear distinctions between the two of them which I think you could apply to things like the fire department or the police department policies because he does talk about putting government control on corporate boards Elizabeth Warren talk about the same things now we really are talk about nationalizing thanks Industries on wage controls that you really are talking about more of an actual socialism what is a public good we've never in our economics we've never defined these things as socialist institutions and social institution effectively means your production and you're you're forcing everybody into a centralized planning State you're you're you're telling people what they will learn and what you will pay them how much they can sell the fire department is really not that again that is better than a public service it has a defined and has a defined budget of the definer roll beaches with Piers ago we're probably more of a free-market than we do in many ways when we look at their regulatory standards are quite liberal when we look at the corporate tax rate as it's very low they don't have a minimum wage and in many cases until they're not what they do have is a very Jen welfare state and and that's a different than again and even that is different than socialism as a giant welfare state now I'm still against that many ways I think there's consequences to that giant welfare state that that they now have to suffer with as a result and if you've noticed India used to be much more deeply socialist countries on the lot of them have just maintained their big welfare states which they are having trouble paying for just like we're having trouble paying for our big welfare state which is mostly based in Social Security Medicaid and Medicare when you say public good right this is what you feel that the fire department is it's a public good right what do you think that this is possible to implement something like that with in regards to Medical Care the discussion definition straight we're just saying okay we just want another public good in a more accurate way of describing it I think healthcare 30-something trillion dollars never over 10 years so about about three and a half trillion per year so that's basically doubling our budget just every year that's in addition to what we already spent additional federal spending some some some people try to massage those numbers and say all but that's actually cheaper than what we have now if you had it all together that is false that is that is completely false and that's not a controversial study everybody basically agrees Elizabeth Warren's plan was 50 something trillion dollars that's adding what we already spend to the new spending I would have to occur so what does that mean in practice it means doubling or tripling your taxes okay let's say they actually want to do that then you have the second and third order consequences which is okay what are you getting for this what is this new Utopia that we really live in where Healthcare is free and then I go back to okay in order to meet that price point of the the three and a half trillion a year that's that's by the way assuming that we continue using Medicare prices which is what all the plans do assumed by the way we're doing that were drastically cutting prices that we pay doctors and hospitals if we do that we drastically cut our supply of doctors and hospitals and we and we and we cut off and choke off the Innovative capacity that we do have so we're losing those quality the quality point it is too costly until rather do is actually Target the source of the problem make it easier to get insurance cuz right now I mean it's for so many Americans that insurance is just too expensive if you have it through your employer it's usually pretty good people to be happy with that but for the most part it's too expensive which is why I go back to my direct Primary Care idea because once you hit once you saw the primary care issue you mix all the insurance much easier you can do it then you can still protect people we like things like Iris pools at the state level or reinsurance programs you can make this you can continue to make improvements to the system that make it affordable for people people a fax just the thing weather in yours my question in the whole thing like Insurance still have to pay for it then it's too you're still paying someone still paying for all this health care if the insurance companies are making any profit cuz they're paying for all the healthcare then what happens then do we fund the insurance companies how does all this stuff get even doubt people can afford Healthcare so we get insurance insurance takes care of healthcare how did the insurance companies make any money then just like anybody else but they're also that they're there also what we found is especially with our experiments with Medicare insurance companies against each other and they lower cost I'm one side is driving up costs you know because the doctor wants to keep doing more tests or whatever it is or where patient wants to do more things the insurance company's job is just hold on a second why are you doing this what what is the reason for this was the outcome that we expect from this so that naturally drives that's natural assuming that the government will somehow be better if that then insurance company insurance companies are great that all everybody doesn't seem to like them but I also don't want the government doing it I don't want to be in a case like in Great Britain where where the government will say you know what your grandad's not on the ventilator anymore we're done with that or your baby can't get that care these stories and we don't have that issue in America certain things they might but they still good but the car still happens the hospital has to eat that care a lot and there's there's different funding mechanisms that reimburse them but no that doesn't that's not the way it happens over there any more there's no choice but that's that that is that is the decision and then that's what they have to deal with and so it's it is different but don't they have some private healthcare over there as well I think it might have elements of it but but but not for basic care I said you can eat for four other kinds of healthcare that aren't but not for basic care I said you can eat for four other kinds of healthcare that aren't really out

it worries me a great deal with weekly changed a few definitions like what it means to be a victim I think we change that definition overwhelmingly and we change the definition of justice also an injustice and what an injustice actually is we forgetting how to do we forgotten how to distinguish between discrimination and disparities like just because you don't have the same thing occurred there the real problem and it's it's made to be very difficult as it may debate with my colleagues the Democratic party is very difficult because every disparity is assumed to be originating from some kind of Injustice you know every time somebody is welder than somebody else the Assumption nowadays is that will it still be gotten money and that there's some kind of Injustice that occurred there is no renegotiating through this thing it was actually looking pretty good Nancy Pelosi comes then says he'll no blowing up the whole thing and we're going to protect workers and damn you know not these damn corporations okay so basically the same bill anyway that's a long story operation attached to it and we forgotten how to ask ourselves why is that did they do something evil what would it what exactly is evil about these entities you know that they employ lots of people who create lots of wealth and in this particular case or not do anything wrong worries me a great deal it worries me a great deal that's what I think that's what leads to be sort of topics of socialism is one of the bad aspects of the ideals of socialism is this inclination to think that when there is an inequality that than inequality is because of either corrupt corruption or greed there's also in equality of effort people do not put in the same effort and when you put in more effort you're more focused more discipline do more work you should be rewarded and there's people that don't like that idea they don't like that idea cuz they're f****** lazy and they're weak and that's a fact and there's people in this world that are weak and there's it's it's a unpopular thing to say because we want to say that no there there economically disenfranchised and there was the some people are yes some people are and there's also some people that work like a motherfuker and those people get by and they get ahead and those people should be rewarded for their effort one of the problems that I have with people that have spouse socialist ideals is that they don't want this competition aspect of our culture and our society to exist where you putting more work you get more reward that's my whole life that is my whole life I mean that did every everything that I've ever done I realized oh all you have to do is work harder than everybody else do is put in more time all you have to do is be more obsessed more focused and you can get by you can get ahead the people that don't like that or the people that don't like competition that they don't understand it it makes you feel bad when you lose everyone should get a trophy every once you get a participation trophy that is a giant problem with our culture and this inequality yeah there is income inequality some of it is corruption some of it is bad some of it is in equality of effort and that needs to be addressed as well and it's not like you can of his blanket thing that all the people that run corporations are greedy and all the money that they have acquired is because of ill-gotten gains it's just not true it's not true and it's it's anti-American frankly first one's personal responsibility one of the detail on that has mental toughness whatever the whole book about so it's important you said it exactly how I described it when I get speeches on this which is we need mental toughness because otherwise how do we survive in a free Society where we have to compete cuz the only alternative to a bunch of people is that we do live in a society where competition Society can't function very well actually do anything and you have to be mentally tough to deal with that and I think the American Spirit named Eric our history as a culture is a really really tough bunch of people to remind people of that celebrate you for it people tell their victim of stories are cheered but where's the part where you overcame it I thought that was the story were supposed to cheer competition with cruelty and I think that's that's foolish as well and yeah it feels bad to lose but that's just because it feels great to win there's it's a it's a Pecan Valley thing and you have to understand that and look every competition that I've ever had any anything that we have ever competed in Lost has old me beyond measure it is what gets you by it's what makes you better one of the reasons why I understand this is because of martial arts in martial arts you have to train with the best people you can and it's it's f****** sucks you get your ass kicked it's part of the but that's what makes you better you need those people you love those people they become your brother's is very very very important the bonds that are formed in Jiu-Jitsu gyms and kickboxing gyms and martial arts gyms with the people you train them mini train with is an intensity to those Bond that's almost Indescribable to anybody that hasn't experienced it I mean I'm sure it's not as tight as people have gone through combat together but there's something there's something in those people they they fuel you they help you and they help you by trying to kick your ass they help you by trying to be better than you they help you by trying to be the man that they want to be the best they can be and you think about those motherfuker you go to the gym you go goddamnit Mike is here and you get fired up for that person that you know is going to kick your ass and they provide you with fuel people that are better than you provide you with fuel competition provide you with fuel it doesn't mean you have to be mean it doesn't mean it's cruel it doesn't mean it's insensitive it doesn't mean it doesn't mean that it just means that competition is good competition is good for you it's good it shows you your better abilities it shows you delete that you you can aspire to Greatness you can Inspire to be better than you are you can do this and you can do this by looking at people who also do it they are your fuel inspiration is fuel nobody gets inspired by jussie Smollett putting a f****** fake noose around his neck and walking into a hotel still holding a Subway sandwich nobody's inspired by that maybe your Inspire to never be that guy and that but it's a week inspiration you're inspired by greatness you're inspired by great people stories does autobiographies in documentaries and stories of them putting in that work anyway. That's why there's so many people that you know they're their Instagram existence is essentially just all they doing is just providing inspiration to people like David Goggins that f****** got everyday means that guy's fueling millions of people just by being a badass just doing just life is hard motherfuker stay hard and just getting out and running everyday just by doing that I don't know him some help him who is who's filming these he's got a lot of money I mean he sold the s*** out of that book so it makes it fantastic book and I can't recommend it enough and you can't hurt me it's called and the audio version is even better because the audio version actually get somebody else to read it but then he comes in between and discusses each and every chapter so it's like the audiobook and a podcast together you know he he lives in incredible life and he's that guy is an amazing source of fuel for people but isn't amazing source of fuel because of his own competition with himself and he's a guy that talked really openly about being weak at certain points in his life and being fat lazy and that he got through that isn't had that he wasn't born this f****** Warrior that came out of the womb running a hundred miles from being a slob and he's real open about and he's even open about his own weakness currently he's like sometimes I stare at my f****** shoes for 1/2 hour run my shitt I don't want to do this but they don't go out and do it and while he's doing it he'll yell you know that people like that are fuel and there's certain people that don't like people like that cuz they make them feel bad they look at themselves to go God damn it I don't work as hard as that guy I don't have that kind of mental toughness and then the needs to try to find something wrong with it but it's it's because they're not willing to look at themselves objectively they're not willing God damn it I don't work as hard as that guy I don't have that kind of mental toughness and then the needs to try to find something wrong with it but it's it's because they're they're not willing to look at themselves objectively they're not willing to try to be the best person that they can be

concerns I think classical liberals and it is that how you would describe yourself I don't know what all of us political world Joe Rogan's political leanings are like the great mystery I just don't think it's a good idea to take someone who's struggling with dementia and put them in one of the most stressful positions the world has ever known that's what I'm saying is not an endorsement of trump is it is a nice saying you shouldn't have a man who's clearly clearly in the throes of dementia I mean there's I'm not a doctor but when you can't form sentences in public and you forget what you're talkin about and you you're you wander off into these conversations if you're not can pot and you're not high if you're not pills like what's going on well there's cognitive decline he's an older man that has mental issues and you know not to be cruel to him he's he's suffering medically this is what is the real issue and the Democrats want to sweep that under the rug and Trump is already too and Emma parties already dismissing him I mean that there is a recent thing that Kyle kulinski posted a video on his Twitter talking about this is what happened when don't discuss the elephant in the room and Trump saying used to do it during a press conference and they asked him a question was something to Biden Rodeo I didn't write that he's like that's a democratic operative he didn't read it he probably doesn't even know what's going on right now and he's going to he's going to continue to do that and it's it's such a vulnerable point and I I don't know why the Democrats thought it would be a good idea to take someone who's clearly got a problem and this is what do you mean the guy we've all seen it it's not normal it's not normal to forget like when he's talking about the Creator and he literally loses what he saying he's like do you know the thing struggling the guy struggling he's tired this is extremely stressful process to run for president and the idea that he's going to be able to get through this and be okay on the other side to run the country for for potentially 8 years his crazy looking at the coronavirus in particular in the handling of it and this is obviously the subject of hot debate continue in and politicians including Pelosi who continue to repeat that Trump has the deaths of thousands on his hands on my I think that's a horrible horrible overstatement I mean to say the least it's just fundamentally not true just recently acknowledged that he now agrees with Trump's decision to close down travel from China in January and a podcast no I don't know where I go to a timeline of what actually happened right like with what's actually look into this debate and in an objective way of who knew what and wet because you can criticize people for sure and what we all knew at certain times saying that was repeating Chinese claims in mid-January that this virus couldn't even be transmitted in human-to-human contact you know and Trump was ripped apart for that Biden ripped him apart for that by a couple weeks ago those are those are certainly issues and I need to go into it but it's that can talk I mean anyone who's not in in severe cognitive decline mean pick a person should I vote for Hillary vote for him literally the poor guy shouldn't be in the position he's in I don't understand why they're doing that I mean anyone else could have been Tulsi gabbard Amy Klobuchar Pete buttigieg pick a person they all would have been a better choice and this is crazy and I don't know what their strategy is I don't know why they decided to do this it makes no sense to me it's very very confusing I mean anyone else could have been Tulsi gabbard Amy Klobuchar Pete buttigieg pick a person they all would have been a better choice than this is crazy and I don't know what their strategy is I don't know why they decided to do this it makes no sense to me it's very very confusing

true it's true why should I should Joy have boundary shouldn't and we have this is what I'm really into I'm really into like people having a big stake in community and I think when you look out for other people that's when you have the biggest steak in community and I think that's one of the things were missing today we're missing week and we can do it around neighborhoods like we're talking about like you know your neighbors it's really nice but I think we could do it in the expanse of way as long as we didn't give in to the temptation to be shity two people that we don't know and I treat everybody is if we're all a part of a community I think that can be done and I think the best way to sort of enhance that kind of thinking is to make decisions that are for the downtrodden make decisions that are for the working class in the people to struggling and people they're just trying to put food on the table and keep a home heated that everyone that's in that experience there because they're lazy or because don't work hard or because they think that they just said but it is but it's it's all so that they don't know they have an experience with those people experience and if they think about every person alive you there's not much difference this is our unsurmountable positive thinking broke one of the problems that we all have our perception really look at things people also deserve attention exactly they need a hug or just so scared will Java raising their kids to the point of broken cats and those kids need to find some way back to the garden and that's the reality of scale that the factors 350 million people just in America is that the real numbers at North America the right way like you have to have no room for douchebaggery no room for density possible level of guidance and of understanding of the consequences of not behaving that way and the benefits of behaving like somehow or another it's a weakness if your if you show if you show any sort of sympathy or Compassion or or try to have some understanding from people are downtrodden or poor people look at you like you're weak but now you're looking at the wrong way you're looking at you feel uncomfortable about it because it makes you feel weird because it's too many variables and it'd be better if you just nailed down to 1 or 0 is a lazy or the good hard-working people it's a good hard-working people who figured out the delays they don't it's not how many of us the idea that like no one should get help that's so crazy I was on welfare when I was a kid it's important it's important for people to keep them fed like gives people a chance like that doesn't mean that people make sure that the government has our confidence we feel like we can throw them our money they're going to do the right thing with it and we're going to help communities where to help that's what everybody's worried about for good reason it's just who the f*** knows who's taking your money they don't give you an accounting cheat they don't show you what they're spending on you just keep it up and like all these are the people that are taking care of us and then you can also take care of yourself and each other and measure neighbors and recognize your community and an kind of bill from the ground-up know who your your local representatives are you know for fucksake like your kids and their schools in like all that stuff like that is a very powerful tool and even I mean those are official titles and official designations and all that stuff is awesome to but it's also just know who the f*** is around you and liking in and be nice to each other and figure it out together we're all acting like every buddy is not going to help you and everybody's not going to understand you and then that one that gets fed to a scale of this impossible number 350 billion people 350 million people doesn't make sense to us it's so hard for us to ever understand what it's like trying to like do what's best for 350 million people and if there's ever a conspiracy to keep people stupid that's a conspiracy make that seem like it's normal make that seem like a month everybody shouldn't you really can affect things and you really should pay attention is to make life better for everybody when you're really really really really rich let's say You're really really really really really rich what if you just really really really real you are contributing in a dynamic way to A system that helped you get really really really really rich see The Balancing Act is not wanting to get to a place where you stifle people's need to do well because they need to have some sort of motivation some people do you want me to have motivation stop this idea they're going to come steal your money so I can know what you are going to help you're going to have to steal any money you're going to help people that can't help themselves but there's people you might have got lucky might have got a good parents and in a good situation good neighborhood good school you did well when you get Boston words like socialism and libertarianism and all these different f****** labels that carry all this weight behind them and we just say like what's your intentions is your intentions to make the community a better place for everybody and make people happy make sure we will have food and make sure people are loved and make sure people are in a wart that's what we should do as a community that's the thing that's the thing these f****** labels with his liberal Republican you f****** cook you know you goddamn hippie all these different labels of people is so easy to dismiss people with these labels and they have such an agenda plays on that part of the human psyche that wants to be a part of a team that attack opposing ideas and it becomes a f****** tribal thing it's so hard to sort out what's right and what's wrong you know but I think we're in a weird space where no one at the wheel I think that's the first time there's no the government doesn't have a hold of Wheels mastery this thing is you know you said the word love and like music and art and you know things that are cohesive in communal environments and helping people come together like in terms of like feeling like like what what can I contribute like how can I help because this feels like an epidemic this this disbandment you know amongst us and all the sphere everybody so scared I am in a in and out of it I go in and out of my fear is fleeting you know it it's things that are a little superficial at times but at the end of the day like this the love thing that the energy that you could make fun of me I don't give a f*** you know like the fact is like we all need it you know will want it and we all deserve it so what what are going to do with that you know like we can sit here and dissect politics and agendas and this guy this guy and socialism all his stuff but we all need to feel that thing and it is love and is very very very powerful and it comes in many forms and it has you know different hats and I think that right now like like I'm sure that you feel it at a show right when you play music for people you know I'm sure you feel it all the time with your podcasting with your shows and with the Outreach that you have and you don't forgive me I don't want to assume you know it and I feel it it in all the varying degrees of the shows that I play and things in like at the end of the day this stuff it like where we're at is a scary place but there's like this thing is just like kind of one thing and it's it is the love thing and that has like a bunch of different adjectives around it and verbs that are like recognizing each other and seeing each other and saying hey we're different but we're the same and we're okay like let's keep moving you know the thing that saves me from all this like deep depths of fear is that. There's really nothing else I have to say like cuz it's a weird that we're living in but that's the thing that's it it is weird world and people can tip left or right or people tip good or bad one way or another depending upon how you approach them sure and this is a thing that a lot of us get wrong you run into someone there a dick your dick back and turns into a fight you like the other guy was a f****** dick yes but sometimes when some was a dick and you're not a dick they stop being a dick that's right we didn't like we used to defuse a situation where energy gets heated and some reason I don't know I don't know if I should retell the story but like you know you its accountability to like you know when you mess up okay to be wrong I smoking made a mistake I'm so sorry we're really helps your education as a person as a as a girlfriend or boyfriend a lover a father or Son you learn when you fuk up you learn you learn like God damn I was wrong I guess that's a valuable lesson cuz it's humiliating there's some when you're hanging onto righteousness like this like and ability to say that you were wrong that is a f****** burden it's not just a burden it's so foolish Pursuit like you should relish every opportunity to apologize and say you're wrong as a showing of strength does if you think you're strong you think you're strong and you know you're wrong and you don't tell the truth will then you are a fool you're you're missing out on an opportunity for you to be strong show the strong the show that you made a mistake I've made a lot of mistakes I make them all the time I'm a f****** dummy all right I do my best but but there's a lot of mistakes you talk to me about it and you want to have a discussion about it I'm not one of those people that I don't think there's any value in pretending you didn't make a mistake I think there's a real send it. The rules were written were written by people who really hadn't had a good grass for the territory yet they didn't really understand what they're saying they should have taught people that school they should have taught people like that in junior high school high school for sure it should have said your your failures those feelings that you feel like they teach about history and math know how your failures are a very valuable fuel you have that feeling you get when a girl dumps you what a feeling that when you crash your car or the feeling that you get when you f****** ruin something you say something wrong when something comes out of your mouth when you anything you did wrong you flunk out of a class that negative feeling is a boost to the next orbit it supposed to blast you into the next level of understanding what you were doing wrong and how to improve in your life and how to go forward with better habits and if you don't experience that pain that feeling that embarrassment then you don't really know how valuable it is to stay on your grind and people say it all the time it resumes of people that stay on your grind like yeah but it's not okay to be human speaking we can't just be like accountable and strong at the same time meaning is that why the like monkey brain enough that's like you have to be all that s*** like ancient instinct when they would it look if we barely had enough food to keep our babies alive and our friends alive and our parents alive barely had enough food we saw someone slacking holyshit do you want to f****** kill them if you saw them someone that was sneaking food taking too much food I saw someone that wasn't putting in their work and you were just slightly shy of being comfortable and you knew this f****** lazy motherfuker they just did their work we would all be fine but they don't do it we do they dated claim their foot hurt or they claimed it back hurts they go back to the cave nobody wants to kill him that's what the f*** that's for it's a resource balance relationships like that against like welfare people that need exactly exactly attaching ultimatums or ultimate rather like this is the ultimate truth to any sort of circumstance in a general sense like to pretend that f****** Let's Pretend Yuba City of x amount of people you have a million people that are on some sort of assistance with his food stamps or welfare or whatever the pretend they're all one saying is crazy to pretend it's all one story is crazy one set of circumstances once that's not that's not the question should be like there's no billionaires or sign up for food stamps right do millionaires they're trying to get welfare money right it's only when you're desperate so the question is like how do we engineer Society so that even the most desperate people never hit that spot never hit a spot where they need assistance the most desperate people are always taken care of but they don't have to worry about it and then what motivation is is just following your dreams what you enjoy doing whether it's nothing like playing music or writing books or whatever it is whatever it is finding that thing but that that motivation for doing that thing should be above all above the idea that you have to survive by doing some shity job to make a living to pay for your bills and just robbed you of your your your time and resources it should be like a f*** face recognize that people have a lot of resources need a job will give you the money you don't need a job but understand this m*********** you give it a gift you give it to give the Beethoven ever had Hendrix never had nobody had it you got you got money enough to live no go but understand you got lucky live 80 years everything over there tomorrow to look at the way we distribute money as being like we think about it right now as being this is the way we've always we just have to look at the way we distribute money as being like we think about it right now as being this is the way we've always done it this way we're going to do it but money didn't even exist

who led back to where did music come from you know sometimes I wonder if like the people that came up with these things and obviously you can go to school and learn a trade or you know become a master of your craft for engineering but like sometimes I wonder if it's just like some weird other dimensional source that comes out of nowhere I think we should think of ideas as a life on this trying to propagate cuz everything that you see came from an idea everything every invention ever eat everything every song that you've ever written and sang every book it's ever been all that Stan every book ever written came from an idea and then boom it's a real thing like imagine if ideas because we don't know where they're coming from something's giving you a yes like a chant like it was a Channel of sorts that creates things has a very narrative feel like it's coming out of nowhere like I just have to be there to get it you know if you spend a lot of time on it and you're working at it and you're passionate about and you're focused it's it's almost like a music even if it's not real men still real cuz it's it's there's an accuracy to the like if you pretended there was some God that was bestowing upon you these Amazing Ideas if you focused on it and if you eat you let the correct life and live the right path then it would give you these gifts if you focused on your art form and that that would be like if someone told you that there was a God doing out or creativity and you don't know where it came from and idea I will come to you I think it's equal not equal parts but it's you know when you put in the effort to like keep the muscle Flex like the creative one where you're writing regularly or you're practicing regularly and then you also kind of let it you know sort of come in its live podcast man Theory and he said it was almost like he was I don't know why this was what he said but he was a gingerbread man and there was a big hole in the top of his head and there was all this s*** falling into this hole from somewhere and every once in a while about 10% of it with light lead us the rim inside of the gingerbread jar and that was him and the rest was other stuff Morty Rick and Morty so much if you do live and then you put all that together and you know we were talked about the war of Art also about like I think everything is a weird thing that we call that you know we call procrastination and he calls it resistance in the book it's really interesting because you realize like what is is weird thing the tries to keep people from being their basket stuff there's like a weird confusion and stress about it that keeps you from focusing on what you really need to do to be a true professional and he's related out of the book in a way that makes you go like 40 years old figured out what he'd been doing wrong changed his Direction and then became like super successful as a writer really respected as a writer and this book is one of the most interesting things because you know like his history that he kind of figured out how to get out of his own way out and put in the work to grow and evolve Kohl's of like a habitat you know what I'm going to do this I'm going to procrastinate in this it's a powerful force you know and then that can grow into so many things you know your self-doubt and now I'm not ready I can't do that I'm not ready yet can't play that show or whatever you know example but has a wrestling match wrestling match between like creating stuff and and being disciplined putting in a lot of lot of work or slacking off and feeling like oh my God I got to get back to work again and then being really excited to work hard and get going again and some people fall too far into one way or the other and there's like a weird balance in there that you don't have to be scared Melody is a big part of of you know giving an honest thing to a crowd when you're playing music or comedy you know I think that sorry I feel like I'm talking too much. listen to in a knock against Conservatory students and things like that but I found that people that are really really smart in the musical education element and and you know again I got a lot of friends and I hope I'm not stepping on any toes but it's almost like harder for them to Vibe out because they're so smart and they're they're almost mathematical with their playing where is like Gary like let's just f****** Raw let's hang out and like find the thing where I think sometimes I felt like when I played with people that I know I'm going to get so much s*** for this I'm so I'm like kind of embarrassing I know the map frontwards and backwards but if you can't feel it when you're playing live and playing with other people then there's a huge missing element that's what I want to say I am not I don't want to but I think that you almost have more of an obstacle when you are you have that kind of intelligence with music because it's upstairs go to say but I kind of simplified like this I think of it like a radio like back in the day when you tune a radio he try and dialing whatever station and you get that Clear Channel sometimes you have to move yourself sometimes you have to just like I'm in that place to receive that inspiration for that that thought or or that Melody whatever that is I'm not Cloud myself with doubt or this isn't that what this person's doing or whatever I'm just I'm here in this with everybody but I'm like I I'm going to dial this until the noise goes away a little bit louder that clears thing and whatever you were talking about with the gingerbread thing are so consumed with giving what they know there their they're not taking the time to sit back and listen like just shut the fuk up for a minute and listen to this beautiful inspiration that comes out of nowhere just like listen to yourself when you show up to a place gives you everything that they know is it where the collective here or you need to like to now and like look at things from a don't get to like the way you're describing your ability shut the f****** and look at the world and draw inspiration for the world is that something that came to you in time or is it something that you always kind of intuitively knew I just I think it goes back to like sitting around smoking weed with my friends and just like not getting caught up with the b******* best type of an artist to be this is like just who listen to my so who am I listen to myself I feel like listening to the sounds

Unifour example and this is something I think would be kind of interesting to talk about everybody is losing their mind at the moment in the space that you and I sort of Cohen habit of ideas and trying to figure out how do we remain saying and plugged in and open-hearted and open to new things but also rigorous and fair all of these weird pressures of the ideas behind the intellectual dark web this this concept of having a bunch of people that have different ideologies but yet she common theme of wanting to have real honest communication and honest conversations and try to figure out instead of looking at things from an ideological perspective look at things from an honest objective Point end in try to see the way other people because it wouldn't hearted man. Not trying to destroy each other and effectively trying to become the adults in the room as we watch the kids run right right and not always achieving then because I refuse to actually say what it was or who was there's a lot of pressure to codify if I knew that if I codified it it would. You have one but if I don't get one you have what are the clubhouse we just don't tell the members where it is because the IDW that doesn't mention me on my ass yeah yeah I think it's pressure you know and I think I want two things that we're all recognizing from whether it's the internet and the or just celebrity in general which I think it's part of the culprit is especially if you're reading comment and articles written about you which I do not recommend if you are doing that don't do that if you're doing that you are subject to a massive amount of pressure it's a lot of pressure and sometimes people they applied sometimes that pressure can help you like if it's a good friend or someone who you trust and it's done with intellectual honesty and they just really really think that there is maybe a flaw in your thinking or maybe this could help you or maybe this is an issue and then you realize that and yourself correct that's great but there's a lot of people that are bending to the will of the masses and they also are responding to the pressure of the master I don't know is whether I recently read my comments is because I want to know what Russians think you listen to me Joe here we go let's go down the rabbit hole together for sure and we went we talked about this recently let me just say this before you go in that we knew something was going on years ago I used to have a message board and on my message board on my website it became problematic for legal reasons we were putting a bunch of illegal s*** up there and I was kind of responsible for them to issue came up earlier how many coming to get in real trouble we had an influx and by an influx I mean thousands and thousands of Russian emails signing up for my message board I mean thousands with really similar email address right and they would post and pretend they're from f****** Cleveland or post and be mad that we don't have enough Nazis on or whatever the f*** it would be you know it would just be but we just same thing that the IRA was do internet research agency was doing with Facebook and Google and we were seeing this like 4 or 5 years ago that this stuff was kind of happening where they were recognizing that the disease large portals of discussion and so they're trying to manipulate the discussion and turn certain discussions toxic and certain and you know and come up with Preposterous conspiracy theories and attack people for nonsensical reasons will this is the thing I keep seeing the same message modified a hundred different ways for a bunch of accounts that have suspicious similarity not one of these accounts usually is followed by anyone I care about and then they have a few high-value accounts with blurry photographs of a person that like I think somebody's like putting real money into that account to create a fake person which is dog doggedly follows you and is constantly trying to talk to you in your ear that account but how do you know that that's what that is and how do you know it's not just some personal time get to any of it really is really interested in Eric Weinstein was a couple times I've tried to like talk to the person it's nothing vanishes like you're so disgusting would never talk to you goodbye on the other hand there was this huge number of jokes about Ben Shapiro and a booster seat that were also play different versions of the Joker and all of the accounts were like a strikingly similar I was thinking I could imagine a little bit of this but it's way too many and this is part of what I believe I believe that we are in a new world in which a lot of the Grassroots stuff is is AstroTurf and if you start to listen to it you start to get pushed I start to watch certain tactics I make models of the tactic you like one of the tactics is Tosh Eric I once thought that you had a lot of integrity and now I know that X know if you don't if you don't address this situation I'm done following you goodbye but I believe that I believe that there are sophisticated players were engaged in trying to either boost our signal or start to alter the sea somebody will be up somebody will be down and then there's like really weird Dynamics I think that there's a very strange thing going on not with Dave Rubin but with the crowd of people that is just trying to eat Dave Rubin and Rudman blind him and confuse him and this guy Sam Cedar who sings Russian I hope he is but I do think that is his I think he has a it's following I don't think this is inauthentic that just loves to dark harass what dunk drag I hate this language the disconsolate shitt on them and they also think it's cute to take anything that he says and interpreted in the worst possible way possible and not think of it as him just being a guy who's trying to talk about things on the Fly and maybe isn't even prepared about the subject at hand like Mustangs it comes up on this show you know when we were talking before we were going to go in there when talk about my yeah you don't know what the f*** is going to come up and you might have a piss poorly formed idea of what a subjective where they just feel like okay we got a wounded antelope I pick him off and you know I think there was probably a move to do Shapiro and there was a. Where you were seemingly in the crosshairs but you're hard to kill and you know I have no doubt that was in the crosshairs that's the benefit of not paying attention and this is something that I've been pretty rigorous about over the last six months while the years you Sam Harris and Dave Rubin have all given me versions of this advice and I worry about it because I'm not large enough yet that I've been the target of a steady campaign but what happens is you see people's feedback loops interrupted and in part to course-correct you kind of want to know cuz I would like to harsh with that guy went on with Jordan Peterson on Dave show I was more aggressive because I think I'd seen Jordan and Brett on your show together and I come from an ethnic family be interrupting each other that's normal and Jordan is an interrupter in though what I found is that I probably was in tooting that I had to be more forceful a lot of the comments that wow Eric I haven't really seen you this aggressive was it there three of you on a conversation it started off Dave Jordan in myself and then Ben Shapiro came in for an hour and I think Sam Harris might have been scheduled to come in and over there's an issue always more than one person there's a reason why do one-on-ones almost even when I had Bob Lazar with Jeremy Corbell just just having a third person that wants to chime in like oftentimes interrupts the flow of conversation like in that case it was because I wanted a lock in on Bob Lazar I wanted to get all my feed but I'm going to find out who's this guy full of s*** what I want I want to lock in with them but it works it can be magical and wax when it doesn't you know it's a little bit like jazz guys if that group is meant to be then they don't trip over each other solos they're trying to come up with something with three great friends I have this issue I mean it's really great stuff with multiple people on your show when it doesn't you know it's a little bit like jazz guys if that group is meant to be then they don't trip over each other solos they're trying to come up with something with three great friends I have this issue I mean it just in great stuff with multiple people on your show doesn't work

tour the Vatican I had a really great guy that was really cool took my family through this thing and he was he was professor and he was really happy that I was so curious about things so I don't want an apple and a small like what's going on with that and he was like that's a really important question and he's like back then the thought was that bigger penises were brutish and that they were that these you know you got to realize these are people that were fending off barbarians and the idea was that their gods would be beautifully proportioned but they would have these small sort of less dangerous penises. Peni Lil Dex all of them might these guys like if you looked at these guys like just the way they're built the reality is most of them would have Hogs right these are heavily muscled Stickman with a lot of testosterone they would have big dicks most likely that's the reason why protecting you from said barbarians is it true that the castrati of Italy were sought after as lovers they could still perform really yeah but then you didn't need to worry about pregnancy how could they they could get erect yet but they will never Castor that doesn't make any sense that wrong I think that's why they would do that they would have Unix operating formed on the castrati but I believe that there was a way in which they were sought after as lovers convention away plural for penis that's the right way to say it talks about a cox-2 how do you say that to Montes Montes Qui Qui they would have inspired a taste for Gamora and people whose taste is the least depraved what and when Casanova fell in love with a castrato who conveniently turned out to be a woman and drag he asked her to dress as a castrato in bed. I'm done check please to in quotes in soft Unix Place their blissed and shun the scrubbing bearded kissed yeah they wanted someone who eats a lot of p**** Affairs were idolized and safe but bed-hopping could be risky for the castrati one was assassinated by his Lover's Furious family and another who wrote to the pope requesting permission to marry on the basis of that his castration had been ineffective received a reply let him be castrated better the pope said no you can't get married we're going to cut your nuts off better banjo better job all mouth and no trousers castrati had more fun than you could think hello Guardian Samantha Singer who wishes he'd had the chop it's an adventure has been around for a long time. Now the last castrato was recorded see if there's actually require we play absolutely ridiculous selected area is is that right yeah Alessandro morichetti Morissette more SG Morris G Alessandro moreschi the last castrato Christ the complete Vatican recordings what they do that man's mouth while they had in there the right yeah Alessandro morichetti Morissette more SG Morris G Alessandro moreschi the last castrato Christ the complete Vatican recordings what they do that man's mouth while they had in there

and today's podcast today's podcast so first of all you can reach it now I finally got a website just Eric Weinstein. Org and I told you that we have to leave this planet and that because we can't all be as far as the best beaches in the United States and by the way you pointed at the gods but for the wisdom and that became a meme so I gave these lectures best quotes ever isn't it don't know which one he's probably but it's so right it's like every now and then so we can get the whole thing in a sentence we now God's but for the wisdom so that's why we have to get off this planet diversify because too many people have god-like powers Donald Trump commands a tremendous amount of Godlike power thanks for physics Community was ratings so so the best hope that I can come up with and it's a slim one is his if we could figure out what goes beyond Einstein's theory the einsteinian speed limit might be bendable or breakable because we would be in a framework that was larger than Einstein people off interpret this is what they call ftlr faster-than-light travel but that's not what I mean necessarily what I mean is that the underlying source code gives us opportunities that we don't normally have so seven years ago I tried it released I tried giving these lectures at Oxford which is probably the university that is spiritually closest to what I care about what you think about geometry and physics in the in a relationship that kept the face with a Faith with that tradition through people like Rodger Penrose and Michael attia and I released this theory of geometric Unity rather I released the video of the lecture that introduces this Theory so this was the first time since 1983-84 that I talked in public but when I started this program when I was 18 19 something like that and I just released the video today on our YouTube channel it is the video of you giving this discussion was introduced by professor Marcus du sautoy who has Richard Dawkins old job is the Simoni Professor for the public understanding of Science and he met me in a bar and you got me a little drunk I said okay what are you really working on and I told him and the first it sounded crazy and then he started thinking about it and he ask me more questions and you brought me over to Oxford you got me an appointment had me talk to their experts and then he decided that he wanted me to give these when he called the special Simoni lectures they are an attempt to go beyond Einstein to look for a unified theory of physics between the two major branches that have resisted unification and that's usually in the modern era confused with the idea of quantizing gravity but the Quant the quantum gravity imperative is a it's a political program that comes out of what would have been the quantum field Theory Community before it became the string theory community ideas we have to take Einstein to make him submit to the will of bore and I don't think it's exactly like that then I don't think they got it wildly wrong and they synchronize themselves and took the field off the cliff and they weren't able to ship a product they couldn't deliver on any of this promised so when I saw that they were about to go off a cliff I switch Fields as an undergraduate into mathematics and I use mathematics as a stalking horse to study the same sort of underlying structures but not to get sick the politics of physics and I had this Theory which I cannot talk about for the first time in like 37 years or whatever it is and like today's the first day that I'm sort of free because I've kept this to myself so if you want to ask any question about geometric Unity but why why did you keep this to yourself cuz I don't trust these people I know there was some people that doesn't matter if it's not them your system that believes in pure review it believes in for citations you have to be at a university have to get an endorsement to use their preprint server it's too few resources too many sharp elbows there's a logic to that Preserve making about it I'll find out that I'm wrong version of the theory alright first time ever do you know that start off with escher's drawing hands so do you Jamie do you have a picture for that the key problem that we have in a fundamental theory that people don't think about is not why is there some rather than nothing I don't think we can answer that it's why is there so much that is that is Rich out of almost nothing and so this issue shows that if you had a piece of paper could you will into being the hands holding pens using ink to draw each other right that problem is akin to the problem that we face in a fundamental theory if you had the canvas how would the canvas bring all of the richness that you see around you in to be and what I did was I said okay we have to go below Einstein to we have four degrees of freedom but they're not yet space and time is Proto space time but before and then I said okay that those four degrees of freedom are like the stands in stadium in the stands somehow need to build the pitch and the pitch is a 14 dimensional space so if let's imagine that you had. I've got four objects here so it's four degrees of freedom chords by the four objects that we need a ruler to measure how much of each of these four objects we have that would be for additional variables and then you have angles does lengthen angles what Einstein gave us in space-time so the angle between any two objects of the same as the reverse of the angle so then you can count it up in there 6 angles to be had so there's four degrees of freedom plus four rulers + 6 protractors just 14 so there's a 14 dimensional auxiliary space and in my estimation you and I are in some ways potentially having this conversation in a 14 dimensional world that we perceive back in the stands rather than on the pitch as a four-dimensional conversation that is we're in the three-dimensional room going for so I called this The Observers and The Observers is two spaces rather than Einsteins one space stop y14 Dimensions because I'm saying that the fields that is the stuff is dancing not mostly on the four dimensions that we think we perceive but it's also dancing on the rulers and the protractors so in other words I have XY and Z I need ruler next rest of the wise directions AZ to measure things and I need a watch which would be like a ruler in the time direct so those four rulers are in fact in play as well and they're the protractors because Like A Spacetime is 4 degrees of freedom plus rulers and protractors I'm saying work over the space of all rulers and all pro tractors as part of where these particles and field can dance so the rulers and the protractors are part of the system the choice of particular rulers in particular protractors so by choosing particular rulers in particular protractors Einstein is grabbing a tiny filament of the space of all possible rulers and protractors sew-in in effect space-time has recovered as the act of The Observers contemplating itself that's a little bit poetic but I mean that the choice of a space-time metric inside of the space of all metrics is a section of a 14 dimensional bundle over a Ford wellspace now that's the first sort of mind-bending weird thing is that this is not happening in one place it's happening in two places in X and Y the stands and the pitch the things that are happening in the stands and the things that are happening in the pitch so you know what when a guy is like trying to make a free throw and everybody's waving their giant noodles trying to get him to miss there's an interaction between what's happening in the stands and what's happening on the floor and at The Observers is the bundling of spaces and saying hey you you're confused as to what's going on here some fields are happening in the stands some fields are happening on the floor and their Everything feels as if it's happening in the stands cuz that's where you're sitting in some weird way then you got this really crazy stuff which I think one aspect of it is everybody in theoretical physics is looking to figure out whether there were three or more Generations that is copies of matter everything in this Next Generation 1 all made up of up quarks down quarks in electron so that works and down quarks give you protons and neutrons and electrons give you the sort of interesting personality of the various chemical elements are also neutrinos but they're streaming through us I'm not going to count them and that's all Generation 1 of matter so everything in that thing that is like plastic Lego then there's another Lego set made out of wood and then there's another Lego set made out of like lead you know and we don't see those other two Lego sets and except if we're doing great energetic experiments so there were three copies of matter and everybody was trying to figure out three or more and I thought maybe it's two or fewer until one of the aspects of this theory is that the third generation of matter is an impostor it looks like this generation of matter in terms of its particle personalities but if you actually to heat up the system it would unify with a bunch of particles nobody's ever seen before and so their predictions for what does new part of Breezewood be there's also a fourth pseudo generation of what would be called spin 3/2 matter is not prohibited but has never been seen as a fundamental so it makes predictions for the particle properties of new spin half a new spin 3 has particles it attempts to say that there are sectors of matter that I think decoupled that the universe is not in fact Left Right asymmetric which would be called chirality and if you think about week 4 so if you have a new Neutron on a table little to K and I think something like 17 minutes on average half life when it decays there's an asymmetry in that decay called beta Decay and that was found by a woman ramp Madam Lu from Columbia and the cobalt-60 experiment so in the 50s this this gal Madam woo should have won a Nobel Prize discovered that when cobalt-60 decay do beta Decay the electrons come spin out one side and not the other meaning that the universe is like Marilyn Monroe or Cindy Crawford having a birthmark that lets you tell the left from the right so this is like the ultimate experimental badass who never got recognized fully she did an experiment based on work of Yang and Lee that for the first time showed that the Universe had a preference of one of its leftover it's right if you I don't believe that preferences fundamental I believe that there's another copy of matter that so the analogy I give is that if you think you look at your three fingers in the center of your hand your middle finger which is my favorite is obviously symmetrical bad self your digit ratio 2 and 4 is pretty close but is determined by the amount of testosterone you're exposed to In Utero and then your thumb and your pinky are wildly off but you could try to make it symmetric and say while you you know I think he's like a lame from which it isn't if you're just looking at your hand you're trying to figure out why is my hand asymmetrical but you don't realize that you got another hand and it's thumb to thumb thumb to pinky that is the symmetry so when you going to place your fingertips together you see that if you didn't know if you're like all oversexed out and you can only see part of your body you think about other world is asymmetric while my belief is that it in week gravitational situations this other matter couples so you only see one hand or the other and we're we're all in one handed so what I'm starting to do is that I'm terrified of talking about the stuff I don't have the right credentials not a physicist I've been out of this game for forever so I often say the wrong things and break rules and who knows what and I haven't really talked about it this is like really a very lonesome I've been completely alone on this project what do you think the end result of this project potentially could be cuz you're saying we could get off this planet what do you like what are you talking about in terms of the actual implementation of this this theory of yours so Jamie if you could bring up my answer to the final Edge question which is what is the last question John Brockman asked when the final year that he conducted the annual Edge question and that is the annual Edge question yes he would ask 200 people many of them physicists and biologists or mathematicians you'd ask question and then write an essay and then every year he publishes a book if I did that for 10 years finally got tired of it and he said okay this is my final year we've exhausted this what is the last question so this is the question that I asked so does something unprecedented happen when we finally learn our own source code and nobody picked up on this but that's not my concern is which is what happens when the universe finally contemplates itself when we are the first Uber always worried about the AI becoming self-aware I'll ask Ina it okay we are the AI and we're about to become self aware if we can figure out what around source code is so we are skyknit so you're talkin about the source code of reality itself and that are percent are limited perception reality are giving us a distorted view of what the landscape actually is where I'm trying to make sure I was somewhat holding this back because I'm afraid of what it unlocks and now that I know that we're willing to elect Donald Trump not store masks play footsie with China be Putin's b**** all of the stuff to hell with this we're going to Miss Manners this planet into Armageddon if we don't get some grown-ups into the room and so I don't know that I'm a grown up but I'm willing to Vie for leadership by putting something up having it investigated and seeing where it goes what is your number one fear about this this source code being I don't know the lack of a better term mastered well the last time we gained some serious insight into the way nuclei worked that with a little bit of geometry from Stanislaus William and Edward Teller give us the the namesake of the bikini that was a terrifying moment we change everything changed in 1900 that was 54 the namesake of the bikini a Bikini Atoll was an island in the Pacific where we blew up a hydrogen device is that that and set those insane images where you can see the water going a mile high into the sky gorgeous until you went to your question what if what so it's still expensive to create Fusion devices so we don't know of any individuals who owned the ability to create Fusion devices your call at some point somebody made a functioning nuclear reactor out of discarded smoke detectors and ran and got like 500 smoke detectors took out the radioactive element created a reactor probably kid who couldn't get into Harvard so we have a situation in which we don't know when he ordinary humans will gain Limitless destructive power going to try to imagine the Columbine kids weaponizing viruses or something like that so one of the great dangers is that great power I can't tell what the power would be at the theory is correct it might give us the ability Escape Escape though why do we have to escape this is so confused about like cuz even 21 talks about going to Mars I'm convinced that we don't have the ability to store this place why we were a thousand years so Genghis Khan was doing a better job Genghis Khan was doing a better job because he didn't have Limitless power just try to imagine it try to imagine a full-on nuclear interchange and then we're having this conversation afterwards so you you're concerned that nuclear war is not to possible but inevitable it certainly inevitable given them long enough time series is not possible but inevitable it certainly inevitable given them long enough time series because all these weapons simply will become cheaper there's no countermeasure that we it's too easy to destroy things relative to building

I don't think it is I don't think it's real think it's that's one of the things that I love about nature you know we were watching a video yesterday of an owl eating the head off of a hawk cuz I was explaining it was a sort of a hawk war that went on in my backyard one point time these owls kill these Hawks and I would find these headless Hawks like owls are me motherfukers over there so they they look wise the hogsheads that's like the way they do it and I found this out by Googling who the f*** he talks has I found find these Hawks in the middle of my my yard with no f****** had them like what is that it's great owls man they did they were these badass owls that would buy the weight detox great recommendation from you but funny UFC funny you I had never seen rabbits fighting oh my God animals that I want to see fight the most so giraffes are way the hell up there oh yeah they fight Wilder rap battles are the best of funny UFC is so funny fighting for sure until my daughter's got two male bunnies and we we left them in a coop together and oh well this is not good and they grew up together mean these weren't like bunnies I didn't know each other but they would fight to the death and they would fight all the time years were all torn apart we had to separate them yet so this is they fight all the time there. Have you seen penis fencing in flatworms penis fencing with flatworms so this is like in terms of why do people who like social engineering not like biology flatworms have two different life cycles a male and a female life cycle and they don't know when they encounter each other and romance called whether or not they will be male or female and it's decided by a violent contest so they've got two plural penis to stab each other and whoever penetrates the other succeeds in what might be termed a traumatic insemination and the loser is assigned the feminine gender right so the idea is but it's more costly to Bear the young than it is to pierce the opponent so female is given to the loser whoa so they just do battle until someone f**** the other one right and that person becomes a check now bed bugs bed bugs have no vaginal opening hey there a female can bear young is a female attacks her thorax and breaks it open in an act which is definitely called traumatic insemination so you know you have a situation in which violent rape is the only method by which females can leave young so what they do to you they are the the feminists worst nightmare species you and I talked about the natural world they blow up like balloons I think so if you see one that's flat it hasn't really gorged ish anyways we had them under control I believe due to DDT and butter on my of 10 nightmare species bedbugs and flatworms for the twin traumatic insemination I would be way up at the top so it's like so they they literally puncture through the thorax with another we go Christ yeah if there is a good Lord boy does he or she have a lot to answer for why did you make bedbugs and why'd you make it like that imagine what kind of natural selection takes place where the only way that you can reproduce is through violent rape what's interesting there's a different system which I think is fascinating which is there's a conserved quantity in dung beetles where they have weaponry on their heads in the form of antlers for fighting the males and it turns out that there's an inverse relationship so there's some research it's allocated between the copulatory equipment and the Weaponry that the that the that the that the dung beetle has if they have a lot of weapons out there goes the Sean Connery monster truck. If you don't have it going on you got to go get yourself so what happens is that the size of the copulatory apparatus maybe the engine of speciation that when a male's equipment no longer fits the female that maybe the Q that some dung be some dung beetles will speciate because they can't reproduce effectively and we don't know why the conserved quantity would be spread between fighting equipment which is used only to displace Rivals and the size of the package

Twitter said we will not be removing tweets if you contradict official authoritative Health sources so that's just what I did surgeon general's lying cdc's lying who is lying come at me do you think they're lying yes but why do you think they're lying or give me a specific example why you feel like there's a line for example you saw this interaction with it is it Hong Kong TV asking about the WHL about Taiwan I wasn't saying we'll explain that because it's f****** insane it was insane to watch first of all he pretended that the head of the who pretended he didn't hear them and then he had them say it again but he moves like you can see his hand cut off the connection people listening here in a little bit asked about the Taiwanese response to the covet epidemic and he didn't want to say Taiwan because China claims the Taiwan is part of China and because China exercise has so much influence over the who he wanted to say some very general thing which is like I think all provinces of China have been doing an excellent different country Taiwan because there's a dispute you think China's most interested in trying to pee in the People's Republic of China communist China Chinese Chinese want no recognition of their existing something called I want and why does the World Health Organization give into that well how do how do different nations get control of things you know we have influence at the UN we caused the UN to do things that are america-centric you do other countries have influence in Hindi. You do this by being on particular committees rotating directorships who pays the cost I I don't know how the who seems to be sew in meshed with China and I I don't want to apine about these things because I want to keep my voice but it spoke volumes to watch that guy do that do that little dance to avoid entire life looks like that interview dority and it might be critique is is that this is the generic expectation across almost all institutions now they are all serving bizarre goals because growth is what gave us our independence and when we became less Innovative and we Innovation dried up and we couldn't grow our way in to do things the number of people who could use their middle finger effectively and say I'm steering this this organization to do right thing and this is my bed and I'm working to go forward those people as a class were removed if you think about like what do you do with Churchill when there is in the World War II in we don't know when there's an emergency there's a guy named Jai prakash Narayan in India is very important he was one of the sort of founding father Modern India and after India Indian independence was achieved lots of the people have been founding fathers went to the next phase where they became like they enrich themselves they did standard political things to eat to gain power in the system he was the one guy who sort of stayed true to the Revolutionary spirit and bizarrely when Indira Gandhi created a state of emergency which was a disaster in India the people said we'll who can we turn to in a dark time and ugly I guess prakash me light so there's this phrase like in the darkness there is one light jaiprakash jayprakash I prakash they turned to the one guy who become the patron saint of lost causes because he never broke Faith with the Revolutionary spirit and he said he gets called up once but he's incredibly important because everybody knows in a dark time who they can trust right that's a very important parallel to where we are who are the break glass in case of emergency people yeah when you when you watch the people that are talking in these presidential addresses there's none of those I don't see any break glass me this fauci guy is obviously an expert and diseases and he's a doctor and he's trying to do his best to lay out the ground rules of what we need to do and what this looks like over the next couple of months but there's like Jocko willink you don't like I was not telling you don't worry you don't have to change your routine you can get up at 9:30 just a little bit a little bit discipline equals Freedom I'm up at 4:30 what are you doing in bed it's time for discipline while because he's a military guy and military people don't have any room for bulshit fuckyourfeelings get up at 4:30 that's that's how they feel that's what I'm pretty sells those you can just do a little bit and that's great that's great you guys are enforcing mediocrity can grab both ends and that's what I'm trying to get out which is which we have a situation where we know you have two trainers and one of them is doing the don't worry the other ones like you're going to be sore you're going to be miserable this isn't going to be fun which do you choose some people go with the former yeah Claudia you're going to be sore you're going to be miserable this isn't going to be fun which do you choose some people will go with the former yeah they like to stay fat out there okay

episodes of might have my pocket as I watched it off of this one episode OU brother no I did not listen that one okay I've only listen to five or six if you listen to it episode 19 which is the bread episode I think that's been the most important one in except for the one released today that sounds like for the One release today well free about his prediction that all the laboratory mice that we use from the major supplier which of the Jackson laboratory in Bar Harbor Maine may have been compromised by their breeding protocols which allowed the telomere is to radically elongate and that we thought these mice were representative of all mice and that they had radically elongated telomere at the end of their chromosomes which appear to mediate the level of mitosis that can happen during histologic repair so if you imagine that your cells can divide a certain number of times if if there isn't the counter that stops the number of Divisions everything can become tumors and since you have like 30 trillion or a hundred trillion cells in your body that means every cell almost can kill you so it appears that the reason we may die from senescence that is aging is that that's our anticancer mechanism so if you eliminate like infect Steve's like viruses and insult from Munich being hit by a car the two things that you have in the end is either you die from immortality which is cancer which were cells can divide an infinite number of times or you die from the recursion limit which is how many times the cell to divide called in biology the hayflick limit and Brett predicted from first principles that what we thought about my switches that they have radically elongated telomere is it was only true for Batory animals because all the laboratory animals in which we test things like drugs have been broken they've been broken because of selective breeding yep because the breeding rotations privileged much younger mice and removed all sort of threats from the environment and so because telomere is are not protein-coding sequences of nucleotides that repeat as a counter rather than coding for a translation in the ribosome into amino acid sequence what you have is that the body can mutate if you will until use the Jackson Laboratories concept of this very rapidly because it's not building something structural just a question of do we have 17 on the end or a hundred and seventy on the end because the exacting nucleic acid has multiple ways in which it can participate in regulating the body's responses sewing fat the breeding protocols constituted a novel system of selective pressures that destroy the efficacy of all of our laboratory animals potentially so not be predicted from first principles he said I bet if you test wild-type mice rather than laboratory mice you'll find that their telomeres are not long as you believe in this was actually carried out by Carol greider who did not acknowledge the prediction she didn't acknowledge you should listen to the shop it's it's it's no cuz it's it's it's the Nobel Laureate on the other side of this so we're taking some risk over there over there at the portal that's really interesting so the consequences of this could be grave could be that so much of the studies that are predicated on these mice tests are there useless but called at the Jackson laboratory and ask them when did you have you had any changes in your breeding are you missing we don't even count the number of telomere telomere like when I say do you have a history of when you change the breeding Protocols are you aware of these articles and she said like what I said you know these articles of Carol greider how do you spell glider like the Plain City Grider like the Nobel Laureate and how do you spell greider and sew in the next to me while we don't remember if we've changed the protocol I said you're producing laboratory animals I would imagine you would have a documented history of every change in the time series of how these animals were prepared why don't know if there's anyone around from it are you kidding were you absent the day they taught science who are you or if true I can't even we've been at for 20 years we've been trying to get an answer as 20 years no one will break the story I mean this episode which is almost impossible to listen to because at the beginning of the episode I'm absolutely insufferable to Brett because he won't tell the story he's afraid to tell his own life story story because in academics the idea of some punk kid alleging that they predicted in Nutella call to a Nobel Laureate that if they would test wild-type mice the telomeres would be radically along radically shorter than the elongated telomeres of the Laboratory test and then the person refuses to acknowledge that such a prediction was made even though we have emails from the lab that so she refuses to acknowledge it or she cannot find a single I've been over the literature there is no anywhere of I live this was bread in real-time sorry I I know the events were happening we have communications with that lab since there is I cannot find any acknowledgment from the Johns Hopkins University laboratory that this interaction ever took place and that because he called and wrote and did not write an email he did not have a paper trail of that now there's consequential consequential emails that show the interaction between the labs but how many times have you ever heard anyone predict a molecular result from first principles and evolutionary theory this is what Brett was supposed to be famous for and then you know he he became like this obscure professor at some ridiculous college and then this thing happen to him but that's not his origin story his origin story is that he is the badass biology it was able to make this prediction for first principles and may have advanced the theory of why we have to die balance between deaths from immortality that is tumors and deaths from recursion limits that is telomere mediated hyflux pay for equipment so if anything has been done since this information has gotten out the world went crazy for the episode and there was silence everywhere inside of what all the Gated institutional narrative because to technology they really have to throw out how much research we don't know I don't know but it puts the question out how much research is compromised by the laboratory breeding protocols and breeding rotations from a single point of failure the Jackson laboratory in Bar Harbor Maine wow episode 19 or you will just say Eric is the biggest dick I've ever heard in my life but it's all to push this Brett to actually talk you should have mac on the show to talk but it's it's killing adamant Beretta simply wrong it's a it's a result and a story that needs to be told if they're another side of the story we need to hear the other side of the story and my goal is to have Carol greider so you know what this interaction did happen and I probably could have handled this better because she has work that she's done which is beyond question some of the most important work that has nothing to do with anything bread is done but it does not give that laboratory the scientific right to deny the existence of this interaction the importance of the internet and because their potential Downstream consequences in Pharmaceuticals we need to have an answer and every answer is interested if the laboratory mice having radical radical elongated telomeres is not a problem in some way that's fascinating how could you have an animal that has this huge adaptation to the laboratory not affect that would be interesting if it does affect thing that's fascinating Tesla that have anything to do with Helen Mirren what do but if it doesn't have to do like for example let's say you have a really toxic substance right and it causes a lot of seldat that requires histological repair if you have a huge long telomeres you're going to have an ability to metabolize that toxicity very much better you'll be able to take the insult to comes from this and so these mice are probably preternatural Adidas towards radical histological repair that's why they remain youthful and young and if you test something that might be in a few doing toxicology studies it could be that the telomere is even though you're not testing the teal and mirrors what you're actually doing is picking up that these broken mice are like the world Champs of repair but they suck it cancer they all died of cancer all of them almost essentially all the mice elongated of cancer because their trick for one special thing which is the best it repair of death and clear away all of the noise there two ways that that nature can't figure out an escape from either you dive in mortality which is that you think all your cells wanted want to live forever you know and that's a huge death huge danger or we caught a resource lately can computers or they died the only thing nature can figure out to do is to say you only get a finite number of cell divisions up front now that there's some adjustments to the theory but if you only got it like if you if you look at the moles on my face with your people love to comment on comment section they probably started as a runaway Reptar replicative process that arrested at the border of the mole in order to keep them from killing me right we have sell the Grove all the we have sell the Grove all the time but then what happens is that there's some means of making sure that if the process doesn't take down the entire organism but think about 30 trillion assassins as the cells in your body all of which might kill you at any moment like terrifying

any weirder than some of these parasites that ever seen those videos of frogs that have the parasites in their eyeballs and they're swimming around their eyeballs I don't know s*** from the inside out parasites cause poor frog sitting at these worms are squirreling all around like a visibly under its eyeball Amazon he shot the first live I want to say Rhino or hippopotamus birth ever filmed that poor frog holyshit finding new ways to f****** animals testing their systems wow bro. Down Jamie please tell my brother-in-law was in he was in the Amazon he was shooting I think it was the first live hippo or Rhino birth and he comes back and he's visiting his Californian he's got this he's got this bump on his arm and it's got a red line running up his arm which means there's some kind of a bad infection so they shoot them up full of antibiotics they say you'll be fine so he's driving up the up the PCH Malibu with his family and. He's poking at it needs to pop it like a zit and all sudden this thing just f****** explodes and this being this creature f****** flies out of him and lands on the floor of the car and is like looking around it's like little creature and the kids are f****** got jumped out of me and like the freaking out and they they brought it to the tropical disease spread Hospital say what the f*** is this they sent it to the tropical disease specialist and they found out it was a bat fly larvae and it's like you know 20% of its neck enormous huge f****** God they're extracting it look at that he has got a little head how weird man that little f***** was living inside that guy's body yeah and so they come out so look at that man but that thing can't look around though it's flies out doesn't just come out like that maybe it's cuz he was squeezing it Deadshot out when does it become a bot fly like it's a larvae it's also looks like it into the ground and then becomes the scariest horror movie ever is the insect world we are so lucky that like spiders black widows and tarantulas we're so lucky that they're little so lucky so there radiation starts pulling the people out the back seats we'd all be armed all kinds of firearms rifle to penetrate the exterior shell scale how about the bot flies oh my God oh my God this more than one by fly Jesus Christ look at the size of this f****** thing look at the size this is the second one in this whole what the f*** man that's so insane that's so insane wow that's gross f****** thing look at the size this is the second one in this whole what the f*** man that's so insane that's so insane wow that's gross

you commit to letting someone use something on you yeah you know commit to a small to put a vibrator on your taint like hey hey hey is this girl in college and she's 2 Chainz smoke and drink tab all day it was everything everything about it was just kind of manufactured and you know just perfect perfect that's because I never play with toys and and she opened up her her bottom drawer her dresser and it was like a f****** hardware store all different and travel with a suitcase filled with dildos show you my Wares that mean they're 100% legal to have yeah so he would just get checked and every TSA to buy what in the fucknit open up his bags just dicks rubber dicks dicks don't listen I see that you like me and you've come back to my room can I assume I can put Hardware that's been in other women inside of you right now yes sure let's do it let's smoke cigarettes too what are you doing where you at right now for a while biking and Hiking Tucson is writing a book and she's so anyway she got him like to stop drinking for a while start eating healthy sizes are riding a bike and she's like getting up to do it on a regular basis how is this possible I don't know if you maintained I just assumed it was just a cleansing. For weed hot back yeah I think being a drunk to get boring if you never took a break and then going back down into the darkness cleansing. Poet hot back yeah I think that that makes being a drunk could get boring if you never took a break he got to step away once in awhile clean it up and then feel the joy of going back down into the darkness

Oracle Atlanta Kazooie disturbing where they were saying that if the people that are going in to find out if they have covid-19 can't even give them this was in New York they couldn't even give them a test because they didn't meet a certain criteria and if they didn't have it before they definitely have it now other people in this waiting room waiting they're all sick and coughing like f****** Christ so what's the point at which you supposed to go in because just get it should go to the doctor sit it out and try to convince a 90% of people to come in have pneumonia or the flu they don't have covet well that's the thing is that the flu still here right now it's happening at the same time as the flu but it's a new thing obviously we know what to do with the flu you can put give people Tamiflu you know you can get a flu shot much like we had a doctor hotels explain are you in if you get a flu shot from the wrong kind of flu that make a vaccine still have enough of the things in it that fight off parts of the flick of the flu is a virus has a bunch of different components and so it can mitigate some of the components even if it's not the perfect vaccine for that fire so still protect you somewhat protect you better than not having anything so that's the flu I just a bunch of s*** with this thing they like we don't we don't know talk about all these different treatments that may or may not be effective but this is too new for the most part you really just need a ventilator I mean that's the only thing you would need medical care for right cuz they can't do much for you otherwise well there's been some talk about zpacks you know but there's no there's no definitive it when they run it takes months right here yeah cuz they think they've already identified some vaccines but they said for it to be you know if you don't test it you can put it out and kill as many people with the vaccine in the world the same time a documentary on wild tigers they're in captivity at this crazy dudes Place who's married to two other crazy dudes who's in a battle with this lady who might have fed her ex-husband to Tigers I haven't seen it yet and that guy disappears and no one knows where he is if that happens I think people should be suspicious to be like where is he you don't know where he is at all human human human oh my God this lady fed her f****** the husband to Tigers meat grinder she must have a meat grinder so she needs Jesus she throws the husband in the meat grinder Rosa piles out there where the tigers eat and then tear him apart like Scarface Scarface was a real thing with the drug dealers was getting a tiger for that reason that's always been the same with people with pigs it wasn't that movie Snatch LOL that's right that's right

imagine the pterodactyl days what in the f*** was that like giant flying lizards carnivores f*** that you imagine It is Well to u e t z a l c o a t lus Quetzalcoatl Quetzalcoatl was that that flying god of the Aztecs just go back up to that I was reading that top part was there a pterodactyl petrisor from the late Cretaceous of North America largest known flying animal to have ever lived so that is like probably they probably named after Quetzalcoatl which was the city of my that word Quetzalcoatl cuz I think that's what that was was in Tech God that was like a bird wingspan of 36 feet of the ancient Mesopotamian culture I wonder if there was ever a time where human beings and that petrisor thing inside when was that petrisor when is that thing go extinct that Quetzalcoatl has imagine if there was ancient human in Oneonta calls or whatever Australia pithecus me looking up and get 35-foot bird f*** you f*** you goddamn scanfast for a time. Doesn't say right off the top for some reason it just whatever was late Cretaceous so I don't know when does that climate was warmer than that I even then what's the biggest thing that lived at flu while people were alive and he was at haast Eagle he said that was 3 ft by the way that to measure 9 ft golden eagles are the biggest North American Eagles and bald eagle as well and they swoop down and they grab the sheep that are trying to climb the way up to the top of these mountains they pull them off and they they dropped them on the rocks and watch some smash wow I'm down to the ground he grabs ahold of the sheep and pulls them off of the sheep or goat forget which one was pulled it off the side of this wall and as it's gone found the Eagles hanging onto the eagle hits the ground with it and bounces it and all my gods it's f****** Madness it's Madness that's beautiful they have any Eagles fine Eagle to fell bounced had his goat hit in the head bounced fine then flies away crazy flexible phones they have s*** so lucky we have one thing to work about right now other than normal s*** that everybody has to worry about all the time in life one new thing and everything just hits to a halt why don't one new thing mostly fish write-ins even says a condor is a 24 foot wingspan that's 28 million years ago those giant Quetzalcoatl things some others like they're too big T from fly maybe they could have been like an ostrich type bird didn't need to fly like a chicken like chickens can fly like a fly like 10 feet or something like that it's kind of run-flat the same time they get a little bit a little air when I was a kid parrot or parakeet I don't know Birds but it scared the s*** out of me like I would reach into the cage just to like you know you trying to stick your finger in its belly so it's steps on your finger but it bites you instead and I remember being a full-size human being scared of this take that and expanded by a thousand and it's flying above you out of a flowing river with their feet and fly away with it even grabbing a salmon imagine dunking your hand into a river and pulling a salmon out no while you're flying in you snatch it pull it out of the river and then fly away with it and that's our American that's our national bird pretty cool national animal ruthless c*** of a flying dinosaur would it be better if we had something compassionate that are closed so they're real close to bills are super dangerous is an ancient predatory carnivorous dinosaur that's that happened to still be alive getting close to his kid please don't do that well we can touch it bro and pull up my pants. I think it's called and he's filming on the beach in Australia what is a phalaenopsis Rex shoebill stork facts that's what it's called down exercise Rex T-rex dinosaur and it it snatches fish and lizards and all kinds of things walls and hole there's a fantastic documentary the BB BBC put out years ago about the Congo and the shoebill lives in the Congo in the in the Congo the shoebill eats this there's a fish that comes out of the land and then crawls across the land to look and find another pain and then slides into that pond and the shoebills eating that thingy like what am I seeing I am seeing a battle between to prehistoric animals with other fish that can swim and then climb out of the water and walk on the ground 2 prehistoric animals that can swim and then climb out of the water and walk on the ground and then jumping a new a new Pond right that's the that's the missing length Revolution the first animal that first fish to get out of the water

okay here's here's something underrated massively underrated Adam Sandler movies Adam Sandler movies are ridiculously underrated ridiculously underrated your daughters are hilarious but surprisingly funny like like benefit I didn't see that one dude it is hilarious some rough moments in it where you watching you go will you could never do this and it's one of those moves like if somebody whoever goes back on it looks like hey what the f*** but ultimately in the end it was a really positive movie but do there are hilarious moments in that movie where my house is really f****** funny Kingpin no no no I'm just saying Kingpin is another movie that I wish I could go back and watch them committed still too rough for my kids but that's how f****** funny that movie but it's like I don't know did people watch Laurel and Hardy back then it go like this is f****** digital get dismissed as being too silly it's like know those guys now that you know that they accomplished something they provide a style it's a style of movie it's ABS Ernest ridiculous style of the Zohan idea about what is acceptable funny and not acceptable funny and he always got pushed into this category of like you know if if critics would pan it like if you look at a lot of them like a Rotten Tomatoes like 14% 15% and then the audience is like 97 to be Pink Floyd you know Pink Floyd has their own style and the Ramones way more Rockwall High School it was simpler is a different thing it's a different thing about critics you know and they are they take sketches and characters from the show that are funny and starting with the first one must have been the Blues Brothers or animal house and they just started spinning out f****** movies from what they where were the kernels of something that was very funny started there and so a lot of them are you know he's in like it's Pat like you go back to work soon as we still f****** hilarious as long as you go in with the right mindset Nick swardson's f****** hilarious he's really really really funny yeah dude when he was like when he first came to the New York I can't imagine he was more than 19 or 20 years old and he was like hanging around with you know all the comics and he was just like already as funny as everybody else already had the confidence and just like the knowledge about that he's a really f****** Brewing guy while he's just got a style, too that's his his kind of punchline you know you know how to do it I ain't he understands how to put diarrhea in a punchline every one of these Adam Sandler movies Dan so is Rob Schneider Rob Schneider's and every one of them there's so many no more movies with a culturally appropriate you like all my goddamn stereotypical they put makeup to change his eyes it's hilarious it's hilarious yeah why can't you do that today like it's just it's just a character it's supposed to be over-the-top and ridiculous to play

regimen for exercising during the same as usual same as usual but it's not that big a deal but it's plenty of videos if you don't online if you can get any thing one piece of equipment that I would think you would need get a chance bar everything else you could do with your body weight if you just write out of body weight workout so chin-ups at chin-ups different kinds of push ups like Hindu push-ups and do push-ups are and your ass goes up in the air and you bomb dive shop those like an updog exactly those are great those are great do series of you know sets of 20 of those do regular push-ups do diamond push-ups nobody hands like this you could do wall presses where like you do you put your feet on the wall and you could do look shoulder presses that way where you pushing things over head and you believe me like a handstand and you just put your feet on the wall so you rest your feet on the wall and shoulder presses overhead you just push your whole body up so you could do that you can you can without even leaving your house and get crazy cardio workouts just by doing lunges and switching steps and doing a little Hindu squats and Hindu squats you go down there all just all bodyweight no wait no added weight at all you go down and as you go down when your knees go all the way back you actually lift your heels about the ground you go on the balls of your feet and then you put your hands behind you and then you stand up like this and then you go back down again in the same thing you just keep going over and over and over again and you can do sets of like a hundred so it's really pretty easy for the first 10 and then for the first 15 and 20 all this going to be Saturday who this is some work 50 holyshit I'm halfway there 67 you get to a hundred Hindu squats and your thighs are f****** would they would do them every day that would be like 500 Hindu squats every morning we ever had on Fear Factor by far but you do freaky s*** like swam and cold water holding his breath wild doing tasks for like 2 and 1/2 minutes didn't have to come up for air where everybody else could have tapped out a long time ago I was like this f****** dude is fit and this is before he was like a superstar in wrestling the people new although he'd been on some reality show the real world like crazy shape and he was talking about the different things that you would do for wrestling and one things was the air squats looking to Hindu squats for a similar kind of squats will you 500 a day wow and 500 of those a day that's a punishing workout on your legs you know if you anywhere on the website we got a bunch of different workouts bodyweight workouts and also if you want to get a cattle bugs kill one f****** kettlebell there's a ton of YouTube videos it'll give you an amazing workout with one kettlebell one candle that 135 lb kettlebell these like this series of high-intensity workouts from a bunch of different structures in order and they're trying to build up their Instagram Pages or build up to use to YouTube pages plenty of such a free information on amazon.com send a 35lb kettlebell to your house one Kettlebell workout in a bunch of different ways so the chin-up bar is just for pull-ups and chin-ups just pull ups I just like I could just see s*** going right I want a motherfuker that's not coming out of the door in there and then from that you could do those leg races will you hang and you bring your feet up and touch the bar and then slowly bring him down if he doesn't touch the bar brutal ab workout has a ton of s*** you can do from your home you could do if you want to get in Krazy kardio get these little egg weights they have a much different sizes and do rounds of Shadow Boxing so I have some that are pounds are 5 lb in each Anne and you you put on like a timer and then you just have to shadow box for 3 minutes and you're 13 seconds in you like oh f*** this or do some push-ups I've been family yoga been doing every other day we found a good video online we do and then bike rides took a long-ass bike route my son last night but they close the beach they close the parks with tennis courts everything I've been family yoga been doing every other day we found a good video online we do and then bike rides took a long-ass bike route my son last night but they close the beach they close the parks close everything tennis courts everything

they get rid of mosquitoes there will always be and I think that is a possibility that something they've talked about doing is engineering some new kind of mosquito that like doesn't breed or some mosquito that kills other mosquitoes or or something along those lines if they've had a couple of different things that they try to figure out how to do but the problem is you don't want to do that you know you let that cat out of the bag mosquitoes and the cats reading the lizards who knows what kind of s*** could go down to get rid of mosquitoes but they do the dirty blood give you a malaria disease that but that's about all these pandemics is like you know coronavirus is actually kind of a p**** and it's it's easy to kill there's other viruses with your much tougher but as a very thin membrane is it's a fatty membrane that goes over it and you know foam from soap make sure when you wash your hands the corona Psalms the new strain of coronavirus not previously seen in humans or other strains of cannabis are very common and usually only calls mild symptoms like the common cold yeah what we just talking about we're talking about washing hands Coronavirus and it scared me way more than that lets me and it's scary for sure don't get me wrong but there's is chronic wasting disease that they found in Deer and it's 100% fatal and it's a prion disease the same same kind of disease is mad cow disease was and the same as mad cow disease made the jump to humans then it became very dangerous and people to the some people to this day like they can't give blood cuz they were alive eating cheeseburgers during the madcap of days maybe they release that a long time they couldn't give blood cuz they had to be that you stole these prions in your system you could they took the surgical instruments that they used on patients who died of mad cow disease and they ran the surgical instruments through these sanitization machines the center process sanitizing process 3 * 3 * 1000 degree temperature couldn't kill it three times still had living prions on the surgical equipment yeah I know we got to do is soap It up sing Happy Birthday twice the sun nothing in comparison to something that could happen to us if chronic wasting disease ever made the leap from dear to Hummus my friend Doug Duren and Bryan what's his name again Planet Wildlife expert explained all of it to us like what what it is how it's happened how it's spread it spreading from deer and do the end is horrific we watched a video of one of them where they're wasting away and is spitting so this this this this fluids coming out their body is contaminated in the deer will come along and eat the leaves that have that prion on it and take it in then you'll get it'll get chronic wasting disease it'll rot away and spitting out the stuff and other deer eating it's horrific and it's 100% fatal so think about what we've got that your immune system you know for the vast majority of the people is going to fight off tragic the people that don't not to mention that at all that's not what I'm saying but there's a giant difference between something that Idris Elba gets and shows no weaknesses shows no symptoms rather or Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson get it and they get over it it's rough but they get over and they survived versus prions The Chill hundred percent of all the deer that they in fact they're all dead and they weigh the way suite at nothing it's ugly wow I know this guy was selling the warning Bell he was like the Visa made the jump to mice and they prions have made the jump from animals to people this is totally possible this this can't happen yeah and it's like right now it's like this like silent thing that they're just keeping an eye on and it's spreading across the country and people don't know like just places where people stopped eating deer meat and there's a checkpoint we have to bring the deer in like Wisconsin or my friend Doug they bring the deer and have to test them before you can eat this dinner chronic wasting that came from a deer that has CWD but it's never made the jump to people so have the sausage you're eating the prions they just don't affect your brain yet about 7,000 to 15,000 animals infected with CWD are eaten each year and that number to rise by 20% annually according to the alliance for public Wildlife which osterholm cited in his testimony scientists can't say for sure that CWD will crossover infect humans But as time goes on and more infected meat is consumed the likelihood increases said it's like a throw at the genetic roulette table he said f*** that yeah but if that gets into the cows what if that gets into your cheeseburger this is maybe with the whole vegan movements about maybe trying to protect us from an ultimate attack what if that's the only people that survive I really thin and I know the self-righteous all the guys would have to have man buns have to get a velcro man bun and put it on just to get through security meat eaters would like get a velcro man bun and put it on just to get through security

I think people are concerned that this is kind of setting a precedent and that this is going to be something that we have to do in the future is there a way to prevent something like this. Shut down of the of the country to happen in the future doing a few things with Texas A&M University and Baylor University is well and and and rice and so the the answer is this is why we have the 36 billion dollars annually we need to have a pipeline of Technologies getting ready for this epidemic we we should have you know if we had you know all the funding we needed coronavirus vaccine program we would have had several coronavirus vaccines in clinical trials and potentially we could have combined them in a way to be ready to go now so having figure out a way to support organizations that don't are art they're looking at vaccines and other countermeasures not in terms of products they can sell that are going to help help the health security of the country I think is is really important so 1 books that I wrote is called Blue Marble health and it finds this unusual and we spoke a little bit about this last time than usual number of illnesses from emerging infections like this one and poverty-related neglected disease is actually in the G20 countries the G20 economies the 20 wealthiest economies especially the poor living in those actually copper most of these diseases and the problem is the G20 economies are not stepping disappoint these Technologies we still rely too much on the US and the UK in the European Union we've got to do better with China and Brazil and some of these countries to help fund these Global Health Technologies still rely too much on the US and the UK in the European Union we've got to do better with China and Brazil and some of these countries to help fund these Global Health Technologies

is there any other way to handle this in terms of quarantine or social distancing like is there what day would it be possible to quarantine the people that are at most risk instead of the general population people over the age of 70 diabetes hypertension but now the senator Disease Control has been reporting we've had this big flocks of young adults getting very sick and in the ICU so what point do you say pretty much everybody potentially citric then among the children even though that the children generally are children adolescent seem to do pretty well with this virus now we realize our from studies coming out of China was published in the journal Club Pediatrics put out by the American Academy of Pediatrics. About 10% of infants are getting very sick with this virus Wing fencer wrist CNN and elsewhere about you know valued colleagues you know in their 50s and that kind of thing getting really sick or even even dying then infants after a while it's just it's you can't you can't slice it that fine if it becomes impossible to do it

he brought up that I wanted to discuss is the damage that this virus does to the lungs and two to the heart as well what they're scarring on on people's lungs of the talk about that and what if anything can be done to try to heal those people post infection well so what happens is in the virus gains entry into the deep passages of the lungs know the the all the airway spaces and then it if you ever see a cartoon a schematic drawing of a coronavirus it looks like a little ball with spikes sticking out of it and those spikes are called the S protein and actually the vaccine that we're making interferes with The Binding of a part of that as protein called the receptor binding domain for binding into the receptor so it's uses those spikes the tip of the spikes to get entry to bind to The receptors and in the long which is actually a an enzyme called an acetylcholinesterase in the lung cells so the first thing that happens is a large amount of viruses getting into the lungs and that triggers What's called the innate immune system eating your natural first-line body of defense and its signal something called toll-like receptors which caused a lot of inflammation and so you're seeing a big inflammatory response to the to the virus of the two components post all the inflammatory response and that's one of the reasons why you know what I heard about hydroxychloroquine I have some enthusiasm cuz it may be suppressed inflammatory component whether it clinically has the ability to make a difference I think the jury's still out yet but so you got those two things going on other thing that's happening besides inflammation in a condition known as a RDS acute respiratory distress syndrome where there's so much information and scarring that it becomes difficult to oxygenate the lungs and people go into shock because of this a RDS syndrome so that's why a lot of people are dying the other thing that happened so that we don't really understand a lot of reports XIV and Med archive is m e d r XIV Spotify Cold Spring Harbor laboratory the scientist have been great about sharing information they're putting all their stuff up on these preprint server they're not peer-reviewed yet but just that we get information into the hands of the scientist anybody could look at them but one of the other things were seeing with that is a lot of heart entry weather people are having heart attacks because they're intubated in the ICU and under stress and and they're in shock so they're not perfusing hardcore and we know that the old SARS virus ours one had the ability to go into the heart tissue and cause what's called myocarditis actual infection of the heart so it's really the heart and lungs that that are getting knocked out there's also some evidence that the virus can go into the intestinal tract as well and so that I could actually be a router transmission hammered is this direct damage from the virus and inflammatory component to the heart and lung infection particularly like damage to the lungs immune response to the virus so you can have an increased number of a virus particle potentially be so people are definitely looking into steroids other I am time inflammatory drugs but you know those who survive this and fortunately most do you know you'll find it there. Probably tell you they've been hacking and coughing for a long time afterwards in a lot of that is viral pneumonia is it stopped with the virus is all that scarring is is it takes the body a long time to remodel all the scar tissue and then before the coughing stop so we can anticipate that happening as well epidemic to know what's going on is it it's just really too early for so many of these things the treatment secures the dealing with the immune system's finding out which people are genetically more predisposed to make a contribution figure scientist has just been an amazing everyone's you're putting aside their Rico putting all their stuff up on bioarchive met archiving and then and the major journals are doing incredible things also Expediting publication of paper so you know the the flagship journals like New England Journal of Medicine Lancet Jama they're all putting that stuff out there as fast as they can you know as ensuring quality inn and Anna level of peer review r+ family journals Public Library science so good stories that are happening around this definitely the data sharing the journals not conducting business the stuff that their publishing could be life-saving and responding to a Public Health crisis I think that that's the nice part of the story the data sharing the journals not conducting business as usual recognizing that their the stuff that their publishing could be life-saving and responding to a Public Health crisis I think that that's the nice part of the story

is it one of the things that's come up about this is people are now aware people like myself are aware of the the number of people that die every year in the United States from the flu which is staggering it's a lot more than I ever thought before you know what do you know the numbers like what would between 12 and fifty thousand people die every year of influenza and the vast majority of those by the way you're not vaccinated so even in years where there's not a good match between the flu vaccine in the flu and could still reduce your likelihood of hospitalization and and deaths that's important message to get out the numbers here unfortunately looking worse so you from being hospitalized because it is partially protective so if you imagine a virus that has all of these different pieces to it and and the end and all the antibodies each reacting to a different piece of the virus and a perfect match all of the antibodies Target the virus and then in a less than perfect match only some of the antibodies Target the virus and therefore it's partially protective and can have whatever partial effect and so now the numbers of them of Americans were dying or all over the map so if you if you believe the number saying that they're between 4 and 10 times the number of Americans forget about Mary Florida 10 times the regular flu thousand from flu the minimum that's going to die from covid-19 is around 50,000 and at the high end times 10 could be between 500,000 so that's where you're hearing those numbers from the White House Press Conference today saying maybe a hundred to two hundred thousand Americans could die I think it's probably I like the institute for health metrics numbers that just came out they say 84,000 Americans will die in that peak season going from by April May May and June and then but we don't know what will happen again in the out here so the point is a lot of Americans are going to die I'm hoping it doesn't get as high as 200,000 and again the modelers are really looking at this that those numbers that I gave sophisticated those numbers I gave you that estimate was a certain simplistic version but there's much more sophisticated models but again their models based on assumptions about the new virus pathogen it's hard to get all the assumptions right but the point is I many more people will die of this virus than even in a bad flu season

I'm hoping so much of what comes out of this is a wake-up call so much of the new-found understanding and appreciation for the science behind dealing with these diseases appreciation of healthcare workers and First Responders mean if there's any bright lining to this that's what I'm really hoping for is it people wake up and recognize the good work that people like you have been doing and also you know that this is what we live in strange times and these things can happen again and we need to be prepared we need to put a lot of emphasis in effort and thought to that as a whole is a whole society but that's right I think you know maybe this will help us reassess some of our values and and you know appreciate some of the some of the things that the healthcare professions especially you're doing and how you're seeing people volunteered you know you know do said the hell with then I'm just going to put on my n95 mask and my PPE and dive in and helping that's really moving and safety equipment for healthcare workers and how did this ever happen while we just we didn't get ready for the surgeon time I think you know I'm holding back trying to throw stones at this agency or this person or this group because we don't really know what happened I think it's going to be really important that Congress after this and to conduct an investigation not from the standpoint of Prosecuting people or or calling them out but just say hey what the hell went wrong here and how do we avoid this again I mean the problems with the testing and not having all the protective equipment now we're getting geared up and mobilizing industry but could we have done better especially in that window. When things were collapsing in Wuhan and the other cities in central China when we knew this was going to be bad and we know this could become your one of the great pandemic threats in a wide how could we have better use those six weeks in order to get ready in one month than we do and hand and now is not the time to do it because worrying about you know Congressional hearings and that sort of thing but when all this is said and done and it has to be that have to be done in the right Spirit not again we have to figure out a way to stop these partisan lines to say there was is a country we've got to figure out how to work together I know that sounds pollyannish but you know Washington University I work with Congress a lot to get legislation passed around neglected tropical diseases and I was a different Washington then I mean I would go you know to Sam brownback's prayer breakfast Sam Brownback governor of Kansas before we center from Kansas very conservative Republican senator walk across the hall and go talk to Center to Leahy's people from vermonters or Sherrod Brown's people and we all knew we had to go across the aisle to work together and it's just not happening anymore and it's tearing apart our country so I hope the other thing that we get out of this is figuring out a way that Republican start talking to Democrats again and Democrats talk to Republicans again and figure that out as well sing anymore and it's tearing apart our country so I hope the other thing that we get out of this is figuring out a way that Republicans start talking to Democrats again and Democrats talk to Republicans again and figure that out as well

pecan Sweden and Sweden the way they're handling this which is essentially they're giving people the freedom to go to restaurants and bars and they're shutting some things down but there was quite a bit more open than the rest of the world and subsequently there they're experiencing a spike in cases ships would come into the Barber on Croatian and coming from Asia Minor and they were fearful they're bringing plague and they kept the ships for 40 days that's the word for the word quarantine came from and that's what we've got right now so we know social distancing is probably Our Only Hope and and there's a few pieces of evidence for that I miss real serious social distancing my colleague I'm doing a lot of analysis and modeling in one of the things he's shown is that it when he looks at the cities in China for instance where they did social distancing another aggressive measures and some of them were pretty aggressively couldn't even do an in the United States but they showed that the longer you allow transmission to go on before you intervene with social distancing another things the worst the surgeon the worst the epidemic and therefore us about Natalie the worst immortality so Francis in Wuhan where he estimates I think I forget the exact spot about six weeks or transmission going out before you intervene then it was lights out it was a massive Surge and hospital system getting overwhelmed in a lot of healthcare workers getting sick and and I want to come back to that point after we finish this as opposed to in southern China and other places in China where you intervened after a week then you got in there was a difference mm patients in your eyes used across the city versus 20 that's how the dramatic a different so that's a lesson we need to learn for the u.s. is that's the only thing we have and to really push hard on the social distancing and I think it's especially important in the cities because it looks to me like what we're seeing so far in the u.s. is more of an urban Suburban vs. rural / we're seeing the big surges and ICU patients cities in rural areas although dr. fauci Africa's last night of the other night said don't ignore the rural areas either because we don't know what's going to happen there so social distancing is absolutely Paramount and unfortunately what's happening because things got so f***** up with the testing that we've not we've sumped unfortunately Bop and found out that transmission is going out for several weeks only one a lot of ICU patients started hitting the door so this is what happened in New Orleans it's probably happening is Detroit the mayor of Atlanta just said you know all of a sudden we've had all of these people show up in in the eye and the ICU so that's a another lesson learned we really not only doing the the diagnostic testing but the social distancing is really important and I've been on calls with the leadership of people in Houston because you know you're right it's it's it's hurting the economy in so many ways but you know if you want to prevent Houston from replicating the New Orleans experience I've been saying to the to the mayor and everyone else in Houston this is unfortunately what we're going to have to do in the models are showing that the Pacific Oregon Institute in Washington Seattle Washington and it's looking at the things to look at the I'm not only epidemic diseases but also chronic non-communicable diseases diabetes heart disease and mental health issues but they've been you know all hands on deck at this epidemic and they've just put it out on their website it's Health Data. Organ you go to The Cove in 19th sign and what they're showing is that they anticipate the peak of this epidemic in the US is going to hit about the middle of April so we're not even at the peak yet this is going to continue to go up and in some places like in Texas is going to be delayed it's probably going to be around around May 2nd and I think California was was around there as well so their number say it's going to be the next two months that are going to be the crunch-time when it's going to start really going up and then as we move into later in May will start to go down and maybe really bought him out by by June of course again what I've been saying is you know the President yesterday or the day before said okay I understand I said Easter now we're going to go to April 30th and my point is well April 30th things are still going to be peeking in parts of the country let's use April 30th as a time to reassess and then make a decision whether we go another month let's go a month at a time for now until we know where this is heading now we're going to go to April 30th and my point is well April 30th things are still going to be peeking in parts of the country let's use April 30th as a time to reassess and then make a decision whether we go another month let's go a month at a time for now until we know where this is heading

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given that I think a lot of us don't believe in anything that happened before Google bright imagine kids today imagine trying to describe the kids today what it was like to grow up without the internet or not being able to reach people you have to make extensive plans and backup plans will it if you're not there at this time I used to have to yell when I was in high school my family got an answering machine house if this is incredible and you would you would leave like stupid music like to let everybody know you were cool like you have some cool music at cage Joe not here right now but if you leave a message I'll get back to you probably like the late eighties really yeah I actually call people like that I've been doing that more lately yeah I call a lot of people now I just feel like it's just it's better that the texting thing to problem is if it's very interesting how we separated ourselves into this electronic communication world where I will during the day be in communication almost constantly with a stream of people the only two stops it is a pause podcast is my rest for three hours I'm not talking to anybody other than you so all those texts that come through I'll get the end of the podcast I'll go and look at my phone WD-40 text sometimes cuz this is man that's if I had to make 40 phone calls that mean it would be impossible to manage it would be constantly becoming and you never really be able to say anything so we're we're feeding into this weird Loop where we just have these short form things tomorrow sure what time how about 9 I can do 7 okay let's do it you never mean to like these weird little bursts of information to oversee a member this program California and is it called the Californication guess I wasn't sure what the right so there's this scene where he's having some really hot intergenerational sex and this gal says like LOL and it killed it it out loud she said it and she says LOL and he who's the total interest that there's no amount of of heat in the moment that can compensate for the fact that she's using like verbal emojis yeah but he's just mocking himself over 50 it's intrinsically ironic but you know in terms of this weird thing about islands of time one of the things that we do is we have Shabbat dinner and every Friday no matter how atheist and militant people are against any kind of organized religion they will leave us alone if we say we're going into Shabbat and so there's this thing about like people will pester me in all sorts of situations but if I invoke something that is vaguely religious even Sam Harris probably wouldn't call me during that period of time. I find that very interesting I could you could you create a religion that was simply there to make sure that you had some time off line yeah I know if I text Ben Shapiro I'm not getting a text back on Saturday ever is dark yep the people I mean on one hand I think it's probably a really good idea to just take a break from all that electronic s*** and just connect with humans and in a very old school type of way I think it's probably very good for connect with yourself I had this experience I actually lived in Jerusalem for two years and we landed in this Orthodox Run Hotel and on Friday night everything shutdown you don't like the text and I then moved into a an ultra-orthodox neighbor neighborhood bread in the on the boundary of the place with the secular in the Orthodox mad what was really fascinating to me as I started telling people you know you'd never think that it's great not to be able to find a restaurant or a nightclub but it's amazing that it's this is enforced down time in about a month in somebody said oh you're in the wrong place of course you can go out on Friday I used to go to that of the Russian compound and that everything's hopping and you can go dancing and drinking and all these things after I knew that I went dancing and drinking and I was much less happy than believing that somehow Israel actually shut down on Friday night and so very weirdly I appreciated the constraint as soon as I knew you could break the constraint I was less happy and I would never actually a band anymore in that like it would provide you some Freedom by having restrictions but it does give you some Freedom like okay like now we have to think about all these other things so now we have the freedom to just be alone now we have the freedom to be relaxed now we have the freedom to just talk to human beings you know what the constraints and it's like totally that's like this motherfukers up at 4:30 in the morning throwing heavy weights around and grunting and acting like a Savage running goes out to the beach and he earns the sunrise every morning goes out and takes photos you know takes a photo of his f****** watch for 30 hit the gym like a Savage and then takes a photo sometimes of the sunrise are in the sunrise and like to but you would think God is like a prison till like force yourself into that but no no freedom in that because he knows decisions 4:30 is going to do you just you just go do it and that way if you look at the guy's a f****** tank why is your tank cuz he's always up at 4:30 f****** throwing weights around it just doesn't need never stops never never takes never takes a self-indulgent time to lay in bed and beat off and pick his nose and in the f****** check his text messages this right now and thinking maybe I do a little bit I think I remember reading his inner dialogue about going to a birthday party and breaking down and having a scoop of ice cream or something or slice of pie and it's like they are the drama of there it was Temptation eventually I became weak do you have the drama of there it was Temptation eventually I became weak yeah I don't fuk with that I just do it so I'm going to parties eat that cake I mean that's feel like I do enough I'm alright

how long can we go I mean what what if you take economics out of it what would you think if there was no concern whatsoever about economic loss in the damage to the economy what would you recommend in terms of just clearly just purely from a medical perspective so although not entirely true because we can make weekend in Acton or intervention so hopefully by the summer this is not going to be a huge problem but but we don't know and then we also don't know if this thing's coming back so what did the out-years look like is this does the even if it goes down this summer does it does it come back up again in the fall does it come back up again early next why would that happen why would it come back why would it want me to go away and then come back in the fall well is a few things that are happening one all the social distancing potentially could interrupt the transmission we use the number called the reproductive number which describes the number of people that get infected if a single individual has it so the number right now is between 2 and 4 depending on whose numbers you look at the ideas you bring up a little one by the social distancing there's also the question seasonality to this virus and again the Skylark lipstick has done some studies to show that they're there seems the virus infection doesn't seem to be as severe in areas that have higher temperatures in Greater humidity that's a bit of a soft call but maybe there's going to be some seasonality to this as well and then and so let's use an example of another seasonal virus influenza it speaks of course enter Then goes down in the summer months and never really disappears but it it it it goes down but then in the southern hemisphere is the opposite so in the southern hemisphere Peak flu season is our summer there winter in places like Australia and then in the tropics it's about the same all year round so we don't really understand seasonality potentially the virus could show it starts showing a pattern like that and then the question I ordered some kind of seasonality these are all scenarios that never being looked at so princes are our vaccine if it's used and goes you know go through all the clinical testing hurdles probably is not going to be used for this 2020 epidemic if it's used it all it's going to be used in the out years if this virus starts to come back on a regular basis are vaccine if it's used in ghost you know go through all the clinical testing hurdles probably is not going to be used for this 2020 epidemic if it's used it all it's going to be used in the out years if this virus starts to come back on a regular basis

let's talk about treatments that are being considered we know that zpacks or one of them and chloroquine can explain that and what went horribly wrong with the couple that took the wrong kind of chloroquine and turned out to be a koi pond cleaner certain things ready now so and then and then we can talk about what I want and then I'll let me give you the framework that answer your chloroquine question so the highest bar there is in terms of financial investment required in time to show a safeties of vaccine so that's what that's what we're doing and other groups are doing next tear down that's going to be in 18 months away according to dr. fauci could be longer than that next tear down small molecule drug new drugs that have never been discovered before it still takes a while maybe not as hire bars vaccine in terms of time the next tear down is repurposing existing medicines that we already know are relatively safe and then showing that those drugs also work against the coronavirus and that's going to be the chloroquine category and I'll get to your question and then the nearest one's the one that we could do now fluorescent antibody therapy which I've been pushing very hard on because I think we can actually have it going that right now so let's do the let's do the chloroquine hydroxychloroquine that's one of the repurposed ones that's not the lowest hanging fruit with the next lowest paying through this is a medicine that use for malaria it's an anti-malarial drug spin around for decades and check the World Health Organization was going to head in the 90s he's proposed in elimination strategy for malaria to treat everybody with chloroquine until we have chloroquine resistance in that derailed that but it didn't in some parts of the world that still works as an anti-malarial drug is also used as an anti-inflammatory drug for the treatment of lupus and other autoimmune diseases you can make a bucket of it it's cheap we know the safety profile we know can cause arrhythmias and some patient other toxicities but it is generally has a pretty profile we know that the truck and block the replication of the virus in the test tube so in Hibbets the virus in the end will be called in vitro in the test tube II we know this drug reduces inflammation and that's nice because one of the things you get with covid-19 pneumonia is not only get the virus infection in the lawn you got a lot of inflammation so checks a couple of boxes and attracted to look at it and then and then a colleague of mine is a fascinating guy I really appreciate his work as a scientist it was a very serious scientist in Marseille in France and Didier Raul and he's must have published two or three dozen papers in the journal that I found to call plus neglected tropical diseases serious scientist on all sorts of intracellular bacteria that kind of thing covid patience and what he did was he combined hydroxychloroquine with the Z-Pak Azithromycin drug and found found that there's an effect the promise was a very tiny study and so people put those three things together and all of a sudden said we've got the miracle cure I'm not sure that's going to turn out to be really need to do large studies to show that it really works and the reason I'm holding back is you know nothing to do with doctor Professor you know really important scientist that's a small study we were there about a decade ago with influenza that this hydroxychloroquine also inhibited the influenza virus in the test tube but then it didn't pan out in Clinton larger clinical studies so I think we have to be really careful and don't be too quick to to say okay this is this is going to be a time when we're not even close to that yet but we'll know are clinical trials looking at that medicine therapy and it was known for over a hundred years and it was really scaled up during the 1918 influenza pandemic pandemic that killed hundreds tens of millions of people it was shown that if you took individuals had one who had recovered from the disease who he got infected they survived than antibodies in their blood you could remove their blood in some cases give them back their red cells and take the plasma component and use that as a therapy to treat patients and and in fact during the 2003 SARS epidemic the first star starts one there's been a number of studies showing that it worked it actually you could treat patients for it especially if you gave it early on in the course of the infection if you waited too long then it didn't have nearly the same benefit be given orally on the course of infection it could prevent more serious infection and even death because you're actually giving back antibodies antibodies won't last forever but enough to help you survive the infection so a good friend and colleague for a longtime Arturo Sandoval brilliant Professor microbiology at Johns Hopkins you know started talking to me about you know Peter maybe we should be doing this for covid-19 and and as the number started going up I said I called him I said luck Tortura I'm going on CNN tomorrow I think this is an opportunity to tell people about this so I you know help amplify what he was doing paper I wouldn't with a colleague on different Johns Hopkins at least have her own angle her name for Bosque Albert Einstein and I talked to him about this race specific issues to get people to care about about certain things and I and I used it for this purpose and now his colleagues are doing together with the FDA so there's a branch of the Food and Drug Administration called sieber the center for biologics evaluation research which is this a man in a lot of bad things about the FDA all these brilliant scientist vaccines and biologic with Peter marks and he's teamed up with with Arturo to get Network together going over at least 120 academic Health Centers so that they're identifying patients who recovered taking their blood giving them back the red cells collecting the plasma so that when people come in sick they can give treatment in they'll have some clinical trial results I hope in the next few weeks but I'm really optimistic about that 144 saving lives First Responders that's prevented from getting sick cuz you're here I mean I don't know the percentage. First Responders on York and that's why they turned the Empire State Building into a siren last night and into a Johan are all of the all of the First Responders have gotten sick we know this was going to happen maybe this could help them so I think that's going to be really important as well that they're they're having some good results with that are people currently using that in the United States are doctors prescribing that was seated off label use meaning that is not an improved indication but they're going ahead and use it and you know I just maybe it'll turn out to be a good treatment but the evidence is is not strong the there's a study in Shanghai that suggested it didn't work so we really need Well Control trial you really need to spend on the dose because maybe it's a dosing they maybe if you give too high or too low a dose not going to work how you pair it with the Zithromax so it's going to take a little bit of time to work out in this is the frustration that people have you seen my God we have this terrible pandemic now we need to get these new therapies and vaccines are very quickly it's the hardest thing to do it's the hardest thing to do is to accelerate new technologies for a new virus we've never seen before while the epidemic is Raging while the pandemic is Raising its we don't have a lot of track record doing this we did it once with ebola if you remember in 2014 there was a terrible Ebola epidemic in West Africa affected 33,000 people eleven thousand people died that was in Guinea Liberian Sierra Leone and there was some initial vaccine trials started by that looks pretty promising Dad license to technology from the Canadiens the script in Manitoba a public health Canada and it looks promising but as the tribes got underway what happened was there was an international response to put in a health system because it turns out he bowl is not very transmissible you just have to have some healthcare infrastructure make certain that you're not directly handling the the corpse of someone who has recently died from from Ebola virus infection India and we even send in the hundred first Airborne Division we said in the The Screaming Eagle switch made a big impact on helping to let you know save West Africa from this infection so the WHIO came in there was there was a Doctors Without Borders Africa and so the vaccine never really got fully tested but then five years later when there was the terrible epidemic a Democratic Republic of Congo that's when the vaccine really came into widespread use and it's probably one of the most important Public Health stories never told which was under conditions of terrible conflict and War and political strife and civil Civil War they vaccinated 200,000 people with this vaccine and it largely help eliminate Ebola from Democratic Republic of Congo in that in that during those hostilities last last year and essentially saved I think it's help to stabilize the whole African continent so it's an amazing story and it was this multilateral effort that involved also US government we really should help stabilize sub-Saharan Africa will look at the time frame 2014 first epidemic the 2019 that's fine that's 5 years that's a more realistic time frame for a vaccine just to give people a sense of perspective

talk about Germany because I found that really fascinating when I was reading on Germany and their low mortality rate the tribute that too is that the well diagnosis covid-19 of died Which is higher than just about anywhere else I think what's happened there is when the health system gets so overwhelmed that so many so that another words of transmission goes on for a long time and you haven't picked it up and then all the sudden people start showing up in the ICU then it's too late then you start having massive numbers of people coming to the ICU the hospital can't take care of everybody they can intubate everyone they can't give everyone to the highest quality Care possible snowfall to the doctors and nurses their Heroes but the fact that they're completely overwhelmed with patient that's when we're tality starts to to Really rise so we saw this and parts of Wuhan and we saw this in Italy and that was a big worry about New York that the same thing would happen to New York hold that thought for a second in Germany so far getting it and the fact that the hospital system was getting ready and they've got that infrastructure in place to manage that surged although they're worried not to that it it may start going up in OverWatch people not large numbers of people getting infected number one or overwhelm the health system just like in Italy so there is sew-in in New Orleans right now the case fatality rate is between 4 and 5 but there's another Factor go on in New Orleans lots of people living in extreme poverty and poverty is very linked to diabetes and hypertension and we know diabetes and hypertension is a big risk factor for death so this is getting hit twice systems getting overwhelmed I think you have a lot of African Americans living in poverty was underlined diabetes and hypertension and that's causing that to the Skyrocket so you know I was just on the phone today with the leadership of Houston and saying you know you know we have a similar demographic to New Orleans and we're sister cities after Katrina and a linked at the hip and and you know there are sister city we love them but you know we have to recognize that even if we hit can handle the surge Medical Center we still have that demographic of African-Americans Hispanics with underlying diabetes and hypertension I'm really worried we're going to see high mortality in Texas Princeton Chinese older Chinese men and really high mortality rates and here's something very interesting smoking actually upregulates the receptor in the lungs that the buyer signs to so it seems to make more copies of the receptor for the virus to bind to so that may worsen the disease so I think you're right I think smoking is a factor the one question that we don't know is what is vaping do does is vaping also could that be linked somehow to the young and all the young adults that we're seeing in the United States who are getting hospitalized and their lives are being saved because they're being intubated and put on the vent but is there a vaping connection again new question we don't know it's something that's going to have to be looked up one of the reasons one of many reasons why I'm so thankful for you for coming on the podcast and and trying to educate us on this thing with my 20-year science partner dr. Maryland up Itachi we're trying that we've we develop vaccines including coronavirus vaccine or try to get those out the door in clinical trials in between I'm going on Fox News MSNBC and CNN that's not an easy need needle to thread either going and Fox News Ms MSNBC and CNN that's been really interesting but I love the opportunity and and I'm trying to get accurate information explaining trying to get accurate information also explaining the science behind but sometimes you hear something that doesn't sound right and it sometimes takes a couple of minutes to to explain that and and those three cable news networks have been great about giving me some time to to explain the thinking behind it which they ordinarily wouldn't do

let's look going taking it from the top let's let's discuss give us your take on how we got here because this is It's been a very strange obviously the president completely miscalculated what was going to happen in the way he was explaining to the news he was kind of saying that it was just a few cases and they'll be gone and now obviously New York City shut down the entire country is separated from each other everybody is isolating at home give us your take on how we got here will let you know that the truth is we knew this was coming or something like it we had a heads-up and then didn't even even a heads up before last year because this is now our third major coronavirus disaster of the 21st century we had what's called star severe acute respiratory syndrome in 2003 that started in China and caused the terrible epidemic in Toronto and actually took the the roll songs to do a concert to bring the economy back to Toronto in 2003 and then it was mayor's coronavirus infection in 2012 and this is the third one so we actually you realize that's coronavirus is we're going to be coming me sing and we embarked on a big run a virus vaccine program a decade ago and each time that cause devastating Hospital epidemic affected healthcare worker so the point is this sung fortunately is becoming for the globe is terrible coronavirus epidemics and we saw this one coming up in the end of 2019 in China and I knew we were in for trouble because that's what coronavirus is do that we were going to be in trouble because Cars 2 so the massage one then there's than stars to so both stars 1 and mirrors made you so sick and that such a high case-fatality rate that anybody who got it was almost immediately hospitalized and basically out of the community that the difference with this one ironically is it is it's pretty lethal it's about five to ten times more lethal than regular flu seasonal flu but also there's a big group of people who get very sick at all and so you have this should have perfect mix where it's not the most lethal infection we've ever seen if not the most transmissible infection we've ever seen but it's high enough and both categories that are combined in this very toxic waste so what you have is you have a group of people who are getting very sick or in the Intensive Care Unit like older people those with diabetes and hypertension even a group of younger people who are getting it very sick set a larger group who only getting mildly sick who can still walk around the community and be out in about and stores and restaurants and infecting everybody and so this is what caused the problem it's a it's highly transmissible has a big group of people walking around spreading it and a smaller subset but a big sub said we're getting very sick and even dying in the Intensive Care Unit in New York City right now for asymptomatic we don't we really don't there's a rough correlation page so younger people seem to do better and actually kids seem to do really well with this infection they don't they do get with it with one exception that I'll tell you about the minute most kids don't get very sick at all but they're helping with the community spread and we don't quite know why I also it but something is very important one of the reasons why I really want you to come on and talk to you about Coke is there's this Buzz out there in the community that it's only old people that are getting sick and dying and going to ice use but in fact the Centers for Disease Control came up with this very chilling document a few weeks ago showing that about a third of the very sick people in the hospital are under the age of 40 or 44 so between 20 and 40 for young adults are getting very sick and that word has not gotten out adequate because when in fact disinfection first appeared in central China it was all about older individuals over the age of 70 those with diabetes and hypertension and we didn't hear about the young adults but then for reasons that we don't understand we saw this big group in Italy and France Spain of younger adults and we're seeing that play out in the US and I know it on the people who you know listen to you and watch you that's a big group between that age of 20 and 44 and they really need to hear that they are for severe illness despite what they might have heard previously and then flew back got sick and here's what's really maybe you could help me with this he said he was feeling terrible and then took Advil and it got exponentially worse is that coincidental do you think I mean there's has been talks of avoiding ibuprofen Michael's 45 years old very healthy very robust guy so when he was I mean he was in the hospital for a week and his words were I almost died and he was really really concerned what what about what about an ibuprofen so there's been a lot of buzz on the internet about ibuprofen and then the World Health Organization came out with a statement saying those are rumors so there's not a lot of evidence to say that you get worse with ibuprofen probably he was just one of those young adults that's going to get very sick and that's what this virus does it has the ability to get deep into the pulmonary system in your lungs binds to receptors on the cells of your lungs and causes a terrible pneumonia and on top of it you get a big inflammatory response so it really so severe pneumonia ability to breathe and that's why so many people who are getting really sick of this virus have to go on respirators so is that there's a rumor that you shouldn't take Ibuprofen but is that unfounded are you advising people take Ibuprofen do you think they should just avoid it just in case and where did this rumor start from and what what is the concern as I've done and then you've got the problem you know some people how to say don't take Aspirin because if this is a respiratory virus infection there could be a severe reaction with with aspirin as well so for now today I might look like the biggest idiot in the world tomorrow or next week and that's because this is a brand-new virus and we've never seen before right so we're on a steep learning curve so we're learning new things about this virus every day so that's why you know how many things are going to say today might sound like I'm waffling or hedging it's it's because I am where we were learning so much that's new about this virus so it's really important that everybody be really Mindful and pay attention to real health information that dad from accurate sources because things move things change as we learn more about this is a virus that we didn't even know existed about 4 months ago and we've learned about an incredible. I'm the Chinese put up a lot of information on these preprint server is about what the virus is what the sequence is the genetic code with the receptor binds to when we had the original salt that we call this new Once ours to the covid-19 so the covid-19 the virus is called stars to SARS coronavirus to when we had the original Stars won how much so much for learning right now I'm so glad you brought that up cuz that is really important for people to understand people that maybe haven't looked into the complications that are involved in trying to recognize treatments and cures for a virus that it is it's you everyone's learning and and things can change depending on does not just the passage and it's also what we called the host the person to so the fact you know that the virus affected young adults in Europe in the u.s. in a way that did not necessarily occur in China is important and so we are kiwi and then who knows what happens when the virus goes into Latin America or India are sub-Saharan Africa just waiting for well that's one of the issues that people are having in terms of blood type there's there's all this talk of certain blood types may be more susceptible to the virus protector Lee blood type a Twitter I think a week or so ago there's dozens of different pathogens with including viruses and bacteria that behave differently depending I mean there's a whole I put one up on Twitter I think a week or so ago there's dozens of different pathogens with including viruses and bacteria that behave differently depending on a person's blood type so host genetics influence quite a bit

set a weird time right now that I keep thinking of what what is going to be like on the other end you know instead of just just living which I've never really do and never really think what's going to be like on the other man I was just do stuff you know like whether I'm doing a Netflix special or whether I'm doing podcasts or doing stand-up I just do stuff I don't think like like do it like this one day it'll be that then maybe people will like this and maybe that I just keep doing it but now I'm like what is going to be here what what is society going to be like with no restaurants what is society going to be like with 50% unemployment what is society going to be like if that does he's kicks in again and what's going to survive so I'm wondering about the future I was just kind of do I'm so lucky now I realize so so lucky that I can do that I can just concentrate on this s*** I enjoy doing and that's a big advantage of that to is it helps you be good at that thinks you have less stress is of less things are thinking about more sleep for everybody now everybody's got to be a prepper everybody's got to be a little paranoid everybody's got to be a little everybody does even people like you and I are they would want to just blow it off and they live in the moment and I can't especially if you have people you love that are relying on you food now if to keep food of your f****** house find toilet paper that was a weird one time you need stuff that you just met the fire in a pan and some water you need to be able to just have stuff they'll keep you alive for x amount of days that's what you need y'all need toilet paper need a rag and a sink and they got to clean a salted you know or get one of them ones that we got in here squirty up the booty hoses thing that you can attach to the back of a toilet it's like it's not expensive how much is that cost $79 so for 80 bucks you got to clean a****** and you save a million dollars on toilet paper Splurge you want to suffer music you get in there with that soap wash the old poop shoot and that water shoots at the bday is like the most unorganized mclee friendly thing that's ever been designed ever it's basically if you fall and slip something happens and you got like slippery socks on or shoes you you fall that pipe is going right up your ass whole stupid pipe it's in the fall kill people every year coconut robot dick that's why you didn't make sense and they had this bad day and it's looks like you know like if you slip like you're getting your butthole clean by this little little f****** pipe that's sticking straight up with little spray water you supposed to get up in there with soap wash it down no that's the way to do it though that in the way we do it all everything there it is so that one's that's a safe one that only some of them have a true Prince used to have one like that right all right I'm going to give up here at Circle the drawing to the left with the red circle click on that a person that had the house that I was there had not one but two hoses had a hose on either side I didn't get it explained to me that some cuz it was a fancy hotel and some people from other lands prefer to wash their hand wash their ass rather with their left hand so they left a style so for you to ask them to grab a hose on the right hand side of Hose down their a****** they'll be offended. Supposed to double your right hand or left hand I don't like that right like I like a hose off of it to Eastside industrial strength around if you had that s*** on your eyebrow hairs but your eyebrow hairs how much rubbing this one left one the right what the f*** dude look at that I like that you tried out that warm water on your but I guess it's a smaller little thing that I remembered say don't think you have to worry though the day is a bidet on their side the room to look if you see they're over there that's a good day so there was a bit dicey that's what I'm talking about I was super confused sing the pokes out in the middle and that's kind of what I was talking about and some of them are a little bit higher than others but they're these weird little I don't know what kind of ships are these people take a little earlier

the guy that they just arrested for selling the coronavirus pill that is supposedly kills the coronavirus he reminds me of that old bodybuilding guy with it Dan or whatever that used to sell fake chloroquine there's no studies right there's no definitive test but they're still letting people try is that what's going on with that take so that the couple that died took the wrong shed picture of trump is getting in the way of the accuracy of some people's reporting of the news and that's a perfect example like resorting to clickbait and saying that they heard it from Trump but he does now he said what he was talking about a different kind of chloroquine there's more than one different kind of it right right but if they just said real simply that these people die please be careful there is more than one different kind of chloroquine and Queen hasn't been shown definitively to work yet and it's not necessarily safe to take if they said that they would be great but instead they had to say the president told people to take it that's not what he said what he said is that there's hope and we're hoping that this could be a cure or this could be a treatment what he said but that's what everybody's saying like if you go and read articles about that when doctors were talking about potential treatment there's a bunch of different ones there's IV vitamins is chloroquine there's this corquin which is like an old-school malaria medication and then zpacks for talked about what is that called Death from Mathis in how do you say that time for talking about what doctors are talking about because legitimate people are talking about that combination of things but just cuz you hate Trump you can't distort this and make it seem like Trump did something irresponsible by talking about this hopeful disease medication and these people took the wrong version of it and died but this a cautionary tale it's not a chance to s*** on Trump but everything's a chance to s*** on Trump it's so exhausting it's just it's it's f****** weird let me see movie ratings but he's gotten a lot better at handling confrontational conversations with reporters you know I was watching this one yesterday and this reporter was asking a question about a few things but she asked about people dying because of the economy failing and him talking about like an is there anyone that could speak to he says it's in this playing a game the game is she knows there's no real data that shows if they do that this will happen if the economy crashes the way they anticipated crashing all these people are out of work for an extended. Of time x amount of people kill themselves but we for sure know that economic despair is is a reason why some people go into depression depression is a reason why some people kill themselves these are all facts that we all know like maybe you can't pull that out of your ass you're standing in front of a Podium and you're addressing vehicle and they're calling you out on this and what you was saying correctly is we can't put money ahead of people's lives so the correct Thing by most people's account is for at least some. Of time separating everybody maintaining this this distance and putting a stop to the the number of viruses remember people to get infected he saying is there's also a factor that we have to consider that all these people out of work could lead to suicide and could lead to drug addiction and he's right and you know he's right we all know he's right that's not that's irrefutable When people's lives fall apart through the unexpected circumstances some people are hanging on by a f****** thread and that comes along and it doesn't matter that does happen if people we all know that to be true just cuz you hate Trump you can't pretend that this isn't going to be rough people or you can't pretend at him saying that this can cause a loss of life to I think the problem might have been he might have said maybe more life there's no evidence that that's true there's no evidence that it might cause more loss of life I think also we grew up always listening when a stressful time when the president came on you feel comforted like his tone of voice how he how he acted you're just like a a a book

this virus I've been saying this about all viruses that diseases are demons you know and we we just if we were losing like have you seen the numbers to this is something that my friend Steve who's a doctor sent me and this is a f****** create a series of crazy statistics but the crazy statistics about how many people died like it puts it into perspective all life lost is valuable all I've lost is a try I'm not saying anything other than that but what I'm just I'm not diminishing anyone's loss of life or what I am saying is I was stunned when I saw the actual numbers so 2017 to 2-2-2018 h2n 3 pandemic killed sixty-one thousand Americans did you know that I didn't know that did you do that 17 to 2018 hospitalized 3453 in estimated affected was 894700 people buy that flu that's crazy overall death rate was 7.5 with a peak in January 2018 of 10.8 again I'm a moron not a doctor reading you a text message maybe I shouldn't be doing that maybe someone should look into this 2009 pandemic know this is the one that Burt said he had the H1 N1 that killed 80 3300 Americans death rates range from 4% to 33% for Pediatric 0 to 22% for 18 and 6402 4% for those over 65 man this is crazy u.s. case is 68274000 hospitalized 12469 deaths in the u.s. I'm just going over all these different ones that happened flu the year 2020 cases reported 45:9 Hospital hospitalizations 4 and fifteen thousand deaths 48,000 that's for the 2020 flu this flu season there's so many people that died of the flu but obviously this when you see healthcare workers freaking out you know this is different so what is different about it that's yeah it's all the same time it's new it's a new virus people don't then I have immunity for it they don't really know how to cure it and attacks the respiratory system and it seems to have a real quick turnaround from I'm not feeling so good to I'm dead you know it's happens very quickly for some people shockingly so some of these seems to affect different people in different ways but there's a lot going on with this one that has smart people going we need to f****** stay home for a bit just everybody chill no large Gatherings she'll get the flu shot every year I mean like I feel like I get the flu almost every year but I sleep well and I've been able to shake it off but it's a good move it's probably I probably should get the flu shot and if I got the flu again maybe I'd like f*** man I should have got the flu shot let me get the flu shot but mean whether it's diet or whether it's some all that s*** I'm on all the different vitamins and hormones and the fact that I'm in the f****** sauna for 25 minutes everyday but I rarely get sick if you make you would get it more just because you're around like you know Jim's and saunas in my places where there's a lot of sweating play cooties I've gotten in the gym it scare me is staph a couple of times that scares me to get ringworm times I got that twice at least maybe three times which is not that bad you put Lamisil on it stay out the mat for a little bit and then the products are start using prevented or save me from that company called defense soap good bacteria it just coats your body with this soap and it's all like natural it it it kills the bad bacteria but it doesn't kill good bacteria I don't understand how that works both people have known that forever the tea tree oil and eucalyptus oil good for infections and preventing infection chords yeah I've been I've been lucky with diseases knock on wood but it's you know this is a weird one if you're if you're compromised you know people that have lung issues or people that have had like even vaping yeah I think cigarettes and vaping and that also affects so many people like that list that I read off is that right I should I read right we think it seems like those numbers correct numbers again so what did I say was start off with the first one the first one was Michael you apparently put out a video today. JD he's back okay let's look at this one the 2017 to 2018 H2 N3 virus pandemic killed 61,000 American that up the hardest part with that right now is those numbers have been accumulated over a year plus and we only have had a month forever today 61000 people now the other one was the big one at the end the flu for this year for 2020 cases reported 45 million hospitalizations 415000 deaths 48,000 cuz it happens every right you know it's like the sky monster of the sky monster never appeared before and then one day the first tornado hit and tore apart Nashville we be like what in the f*** is God's mad at us right that's how I used to feel back in this just one person's case I remember last week I read someone that got tested for the flu and I tested positive and then weeks later got tested for the covid-19 and then tested positive for that but they weren't tested for the time they're tested for the flu because they don't have a test tested positive for the flu maybe that never had a covid-19 test could be available good bacon I'm testing positive is it mean could they ride that got some hand sanitizer before the Green in San Diego and Tom Green was the first person that I knew that was kind of like panicking a little that he just bought a crate of Lysol many Lysol and he was spraying the microphone down on stage and like and I was like he's taking a little overboard literally like a week later everyone's doing that f*** it's a bit spooky dude who was it that had a friend was it Tom Papa was friend was warning him long in advance no wasn't Tom Papa it was Bert Kreischer Bert Kreischer at a friend who's warning him Wayne Advance listen and you need to isolate need to get your family and he was like like what in this is apparently in February he's like this lady's crazy now and then he texted her like the beginning of March one of those on and Poppin he's like you're right my point about us showing those numbers is not to diminish the impact of this current pandemic it was just to highlight the fact that we live in a warzone we Livin of a virus Warzone that takes out thousands of people every year in this country and I don't most of us are really keeping our eye on that you know what you hear about deaths by the flu and the Never Say Never shocking death by some new thing for some reason even if it's the same number of deaths or less even right so far less freaked us the f*** out it's like it's happening more everyday like this that guy died of flu a total of 19543 laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations were reported by flu serve – net sites between October 2019 and March 21-2024 t1100 72.1% were associated with influenza A virus what's 14000 what I say whoops I want my dyslectic influenza okay 5335 27.3% with influenza B that's true to write if you get an influenza A shot and its influenza B you might catch it anyway that's annoying so that's a lot of people so we got 19505 thousand 304,000 14100 my theory is Warren sucking your thumb your supposed to suck your thumb your whole life and it was supposed to keep your immune system strong so that it was vital to the hospital station rate was 67.3% 467.3 per 100,000 population Which is higher than all recent Seasons except for the 2017-2018 season rates in children 0 to 4 years old in adults 18-49 are now the highest CDC has on record for these age groups of pass the rate reported during the 2009 H1 N1 pandemic hospitalization rates for school-age children are higher than any recent regular-season but lower than rates during the pandemic when they killed all those people they didn't shut anything down he had the H1 N1 he did yeah you did yeah he has never in his life and it was 2009 when it was all going down and he said he couldn't sleep you so uncomfortable in just constant pain and aching should never never felt sick or ever in his life and that killed a lot of people I got a flu like that before 5 years ago or something like that can get you they can get you I hope another thing that comes out of here is people take their f****** immune system more seriously support your immune system you know I mean it just makes a bit just a little shift in the number of people that get healthy little ship the number number of people to start taking vitamins and exercising and you know just do something man's something put a heavy backpack on go for a walk do something listen to podcast system you know I mean it just makes a bit just a little shift in the number of people that get healthy little ship the number number of people to start taking vitamins and exercising and you know just do something man's something put a heavy backpack on go for a walk do something listen to podcast

well that's the other things going on with people's the fear man when you have a hard time dealing with anxiety you have apprehension you just fearful of the future and fearful to disease some people have anxiety before this this can accelerate everything that's going to be real hard for just for mental health the people sit going to be people they're going to have a really hard time also accepting this is just something that happened to them it says something that they did wrong you know when something goes bad and you did something wrong account like I made a bad decision and I should have done that way I f***** up and we should have had that meeting and then you know you might know why your business fell apart but if it falls apart now but you didn't even do anything wrong and the government gets to tell you they have to sit back now if you were conspiracy theorist it's so many of them you would think will be the best way to gain more control the people the best way first Vault accelerate the spare and accelerate unemployment you do all the things that are just going to happen from what naturally happens in a diseased people are willing to give up certain civil liberties if they if they think they can get more safety and it's true we should stay home it's true it will be better for everybody it's true that we need to take precautions it's true that we need to self isolate all those things but it's also true that you're giving a certain amount of power to the government to lock things down and control you they giving people tickets in New York they catch them walking around again $500 tickets they're doing another place just to I'm sure and that's where it gets weird man because it's who are these people these people that are telling you can't go anywhere they're just the government they're just people there people telling people that they can't go somewhere which is fine if we need to do that like right now but what if it just sort of stays that way what if it stays that way to a lesser extent what they saw you know how it going to stop coronavirus from really taking place I want to know where you going I want to know where you going I want to know I want when you go through each state we're going to have checkpoints going to pull you over its give you height and police day so if you've been tested for the coronavirus and you put a f****** thing on your forehead what if what if this thing really does start coming back the way it 4 people tested negative and then they later tested positive is that happens here and we going to keep this lockdown thing going on with if it's something that we all have it comes back like when Jon Jones had those steroids in his system in the Pica grams and it just kept flashing back and with us with this stuff what we test positive for Coronavirus every couple years but if it's like herpes but if you keep it for life what for assuming we got rid of it we can just accept martial law we just make sense tanks in the streets except it's a question so if you were a nut right now you would be f****** going crazy because you would be saying all the pieces are in place for like a hostile takeover and they're in place because they really truly are the best ways to save people's lives like it's all so smart thing to do but if you are conspiracy theorists you said this is exactly what I would do if I wanted to take over and that's why we have to be really careful of we got to be careful of Summer walking that very fine balance of protecting people from a disease is Invisible Killer and preserving our freedom and preserving rights all those things are very important we don't just give that up cuz it's it's not the way to go it's just not we have to figure out our way through this disease and then we have to figure out some way to return to normalcy and that's got to happen we can't just stay like this where no one works anymore we can't just not ever take risks we can't just not go out so once this does get rolling again it's going to be real interesting to see how much if any control the government retains how much of that if any restrictions get get imposed how much of these restrictions we just absorbing to become new or new things I got a normal thing rather we're just go to the airport you have to take a temperature test and go to the airport they want to test you or would I have to start wearing suits like Star Wars breathing apparatus and everyone that works at the grocery store is going to be robots you know and pathogen that you get to the hotel and unzip you can enjoy New York City from your balcony look so pretty out there with all the murderous viruses swarming around killing people with the virus get together made bars tornadoes start just throwing people against walls or virus babies make it fly through the air like we seen why can't a virus tornado to slam you into a wall viruses accelerate billions of times and they've they form colonies and they become intelligent and they realized they move quick enough they can actually like they could knock you off your feet and they go down your throat like a demon just what we're reading about the H1 N1 all these other flus a kill so many countless thousands of people that can be counted them pretty accurate way to double-check just think about that the sheer numbers of people that died from those things if those were demons instead of diseases how freaky would that be if we're really look we're going to lose a certain amount of people every year to Demons little cut still little Godzilla just running up into your window and killing your grandma then a virus the silent thing choke you to death I need to know I've been thinking that all the world needs to get to come together is like that alien invasion he figured it out what if this did come from space like this takeover of the World by another Nation what better way to do it than that but if North Korea was behind all this resources likely that's beside the point I don't think it was intentional things like this happen people do take advantage of opportunity and you got to be real careful who gets the better hand and they take advantage of it's just it's an underground weird for people they know where it came from they think they've isolated that this thing did come from this Market in Wuhan they know it's just it's the way things like this can play out there's a bunch of these is almost just like someone starting a conspiracy it's not it doesn't have to be done like it just actually naturally this in the same people that would benefit from a conspiracy or who would Engage The Conspiracy to defraud people are f***** people over in the first place was going to jump in and take advantage of the quickest That's What's So Scary About It totalitarian ideas Thrive when people are scared they want someone to take over the reins they want someone to take over will block the streets No More Travel going to block this you can't go to work and I'm going to be poor and broke it scared I'm not saying what I am saying do something to really take over civilization it would be this way that's how you would do it you would do diseases I'm not saying they're doing that I don't think they are I think this is just a horrible natural disaster really clear on that but we might come out of this different than we went in that's real just tanks driving down the road in California thanks getting supplies or something like what he sent me a video from his phone of Tanks rolling down New York City armed Humvees and tanks freaky like military vehicles and Camo we hiding your New York City from with some camo is that even when they use them in cities they Camelot like to let you know they might hide in the bushes to b**** the drive to the city's to lock everybody down to had those murdered out matte black paint job that it would be a little more intimidating me pieces of pizza slices and stuff and you're not in the military have an eye on you anyway what are you doing right military style Hummer around like please check that guy's house you know please please read his Facebook please you just got to give up a microchip they put a microchip in your hand and your fine and it's also doubles as a Corona tester so you make sure that you had never get mistaken for someone Corona just have to scan you how you going to the bathroom to have your hand please with peace and harmony I mean really I'm trying not to sound like a conspiracy nut cuz I'm not accusing anyone of creating conspiracy what I am saying is if if I was a conspiracy not or if I was a country that was conspiring to take over the world this is not a bad way to do it I don't think that's happening right now I want to be real clear but it's kind of the same result that were experiencing right now we're ones being forced to shut down with who-knows-what consequences it's also the right thing to do so we're all like whoa you know it's another one of those things about being a person or the right thing to do still feels crazy still feels like encouraging is so many people are willing to stay home and people aren't rebelling like f*** you this is my country I'm going to work I'll take a chance he's going to get it anyway f*** you people doing that when you consider that the government is controlling 320 million people pretty crazy almost everyone's complying with staying home is only a few essential businesses and we're going to have to think really have spacesuits to leave the house and work Scooby a mess are you worried Jamie I've never seen you this word everything I look into the future to see where we're headed and I don't see a really see much out there cuz I don't know where it is but it's not anything good cuz there's nothing like going to the movies again seems like that's probably close to out movies were already dying anyway house for twenty bucks perfect way better sweet so when are movie theaters open again all right what's next concerts sporting events I don't know once everything's in place where they can treat people effectively and they have the adequate number of ventilators then are we going to go back to the way things were or we going to have new standards in place I don't know man that they look they did an unprecedented thing they lock down the entire country to save people's lives never happened before we're in New Territory and you know it's dangerous when a moron like me is making sense but when I'm one of the people talking about something like this when he was living in France and I don't know who is writing to I'll try to find the right now but he's talking about how they stocked up on a bunch of alcohol and people were being told it's almost like you're told not to go anywhere but some people don't believe it. He was talking about a writer friend of his who wasn't taking it seriously and like it was like real people Ryan and everyone's just like what's going on you got to read the newspaper like f*** what happened it's fake what a good way to end what happened it's fake how they get you I just saw that this was going viral during the pandemic and why people have been falling for it and son of a b**** what a good way to end

store that I was reading about where these f****** guys were working during construction in Maine and they rented a house and the neighbors had decided that these people might have the Corona and so they've been there since September they had they been in the f****** town since September working on construction sites big chop a tree down and blocked her f****** driveway and threatened them with guns are they they have to quarantine on them forcing them to quarantine Maine for you that's f***** that's mean for you dude main is a strange place it's a strange place you ain't never seen drunk God you never seems wrong to TCM like a bar in Bangor to the mainland were targeted because of license plate when they arrive back then no Haven vinalhaven exchange between roommates and some local residents apparently didn't go well she said adding that a group of local Vigilantes decided to take matters into their own hands and barricade these guys into the rental property response from several officials people don't get me wrong but you know there's a lot of diamonds up there they call Maniacs and they get real mad if you make fun of me and he was screaming the shop or shot hunting deer in mistaken for a deer shot by a deer at Cellairis and I was making this joke about it like I mean people live here in the sky singing magnets Espiritu small island town

do you think that you could do Tropic Thunder today would that be possible or you could do it when band called and said hey I'm doing this thing and you know and I thought yeah I'll do that after Iron Man and also it was impossible to not have it be a defensive nightmare of a movie and 90% of my black friends are like do that's great again not in my defense but Tropic Thunder was about how wrong that is and it might be the last time we'll ever see a studio take a chance on a guy wearing black face and the prolific use the word retard those are two things and by the way but the funny thing to was all the heat got deflected to Ben and simple Jack that's what people were pissed off about when I go did you have anybody my mother was horrified did you have anybody that was telling you not to do it with their buns the agents or anyone else in my mother was horrified

you know you look at I don't know if you've been paying attention to what these Senators did but there's some Senators they had a behind-closed-doors meeting about the coronavirus in China and what it means United States and you know the various impacts and they went out sold their stock immediately and then they were talking about how under control the government had it and how we're prepared and how it's going to be fine and meanwhile they knew they knew so they had two faces that a public face and they're given to us to try to keep us calm and then they had a private face which realize that the stock market was going to take a huge loss until they sold everything and made amends profits based on the information that they found out he's closed-door meetings about the coronavirus how are they supposed to know about legal supposed to do using that works like if you like what is the point of playing the stock market if you don't know things and if you do know things would you no more because you know the guy was a president tells you something about something to do and you're not supposed to trade then because of that information like alright okay I'm sure there's a logic to it don't run it by me but if that's what is it with the Senators do if they knew that the coronavirus is going to wreck our economy if they knew that it was coming like a f****** storm of hail that no one could stop if they knew and then they bailed out and made demands profits that seem so shady that they didn't advise but you're supposed to be a leader right if you're in a position of an elected representative you're supposed to be acting in the position of a leader and if your way to lead is tell people one thing but act in a completely different direction tell people everything's going to be fine but then start selling your stock prophet and you don't tell other people to do it because you're worried that maybe that information is going to cause some ripple effect is going to destroy the economy even before the coronavirus hits just had a panic and fear in people going to act wrong but you acted in a different way than the way you were talking you acted like this s*** was going to be real you act like there's going to be a real problem and then the question is like how much of a problem did they think was going to be maybe they dump the stock that. I was going to be a little problem would that be okay but if they found I was going to be huge comments not well that seems weird to me too like I don't know what the should the rules be with information in the stock market stock market is gross like it's what the whole things grow this f****** Madness so I saw an article where the photographer who took that photo was like he was like oh it's so sad that people are using his image that way because you know he pass play in and I thought it was kind of offensive that he was being used to prank or whatever and he said you know I saw the people started selling merch what this guy's face on it and he goes I just wish because I own the photograph and I'm not trying to come after you when I just wish they would share proceeds of that merch with the family so I saw that and I was like oh I want to do that so I launched a shirt with that guy's face on it that says wash your hands and then and then I go I go I want to give the proceeds to this Man's family so because of that article I reached out to people I was able to get in touch with the photographer the guy who took that picture and then I found I got in touch with his the the the models fiance who you know anyways I contacted her I found her I've learned a little bit about this guy in that photo and I'm giving them the proceeds from the shirt sales all of them all the profits will go to them and I also found that when he when he died like the family wasn't prepared like financially for anything so they had set up a GoFundMe for his funeral and Tombstone and all that so I'm going to blast it out but I talk to him either they're happy with it so that's my breaking news important news not really as big I didn't get into that with her mommy said that it's photoshopped I've heard that as well show me the original black dick I didn't even know this was a thing I think so how many dead husband LOL yeah so anyways yeah oh well bucks you can get more than that they make much money but we've never been in a situation where everybody scared of one disease it's so strange man it's so strange I don't think I'd be able to get past that and just do a show right now I'm 90% sure they're going to cancel it mean that the stuff that they're coming up with for treatment one of them is a malarial disease and old malaria disease or some other different treatments that hold hope and but there's so many old man that we could get infected if you got to show 12013 thousand people whatever it is how the f*** are you going to make sure those people are okay is that your responsibility do you say, at your own risk you know I mean what have you get it when you're there or what are we doing what are we doing you know I mean the whole thing's crazy hopefully unless this is the first thing that falls and then all those other things fall into place we talked about natural disasters appreciate piece we can appreciate freedom and appreciate being a roam around do whatever you want go out at 3 at night you going to be going to appreciate it you can appreciate being able to go to a diner and have breakfast with your friend at 2 in the morning laugh un appreciate it cars in the street everybody acting normal going to mean more to you now it's like the sun after I need a means more feels better has more of an impact and I think we've gone through a long stretch in this country where everything was static everything was doing fairly well we're on an upward Trend no real tragedy National nationally to change the way we live our life other than September 11th so we got like September 11th and then all these years of war of course crime of course always a but we're basically business as usual for most folks not anymore call the wake-up call that you have a finite amount of time in this life and this life the way you're experiencing it right now it's just how it is right now there's a million different factors that are in Play constantly and you've been real lucky they've out of the stretch of peace and Harmony but that s*** could change at any moment it really could and we got to use this time to be nicer to each other little use this time to to realize that we got we got a little confused we got crazy you know everybody trying to acquire things and everybody's trying to tell you to move their way up the corporate ladder like hey there's there's a f****** end of this ride okay this ride comes to a stop someday and he doesn't matter how much s*** you've acquired it doesn't matter you know how far you got up this ladder you know what what position of prominence you have in the community and how you're respected by the business World nobody gives a f*** when your dad it's not you're going to die we are together right now experiencing this thing in like really distracted way the thing comes into focus when you're forced into a situation like like we are now where you literally or nervous about your survival then nothing comes into focus and he only brought in tools to make tools and the big tools like that he made all of them self and amazing at home and stuff that you would know he would get enlarged batteries come and touch base. It would come to him people would fly out to him with Goods but it mean he built all this shitt by himself he built his whole cabin by himself and he documented every step of the way his name is printed proenneke dick krenicki alone in the wilderness of the whole series on YouTube and he's on the side of a lake with this this cabin that he built live animals that he hunted and firewood and you know whatever food that he gathered obsessed with this now and then I want it near a lake or a water source maybe preferably a well I can irrigate my own crops crops I need chickenzilla I need a garden you don't you cry or is it just you yes well it might be me and my several several lady friends my lady friends because I'm going to start my own colony so I have to breed you understand a lot of hair and beard I cuz I want to stay looking young what do they go up with something that reverses you and now you're talkin my language you'd be the guy David come out come on out and I'll see all the girls one more thing I want to do is I want to split with my shirt off while I have women watch me through the window of my log cabin at their baking a pie and I know this is a chauvinistic fantasy it sounds like it don't worry I can go to shows up sort of like Brad Pitt's Pitbull and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood correct I'd kill for one of those that pitbull with Pat was f****** great that thing just f******

my my my ears are covered for the second time today I'm just going to say that and I'm a time up fun right I've been doing it in my head Forever on your head it doesn't really work cuz the first-ever Hurst killing a gang many times I was pretty accurate without this kind of sick but yeah that's a good idea I could either waste them or Wing them bring them and then take them in and it's teaching their their way and the end they'll be loyal to you I tossed them an herbal herbal remedy an herbal wrap like Steven Seagal had that one movie where he's in a coma for like 10 years I don't know your way out of line Bail Bonds laws the first movie this was deep he was in a coma forever and then gets out of the coma after it starts doing all sorts of Chinese herbs and s*** become a battle since he was pretty skinny back then and then tomorrow Dawn wake them up horseback for no reason why why do you always because there's something very masculine you have when you're on a horse it's my entire back tomorrow or be there tomorrow and I want to rehabilitate at-risk youth but they're like 20 and then I want to rear up on a horse hurry up on course at but I want to appear out of nowhere we are up on the horse and rescue a group of women in the wilderness a group of women in the world and what are they in the wilderness for hikers they were their plane went down nobody got hurt but it's skidded along the glacial Lake first man Panther the man. Do you know about this guy is named his dick proenneke and he was a guy who lived in Alaska by himself in a cabin that he built for decades and he moved out there when it's 50 years old she got tired of life and just the way everything was the fast pace of Modern Life I decided this guy amazing videos on YouTube this guy built his own house out there in Alaska fashioned out of logs there's like a video of him doing the whole thing filmed everything filmed interactions with animals Birds would come and land on his hand and he was really them you know real measured with his words of course and everything you wanted and he would sit and every night he would write and he would write about his experiences and in the Deep satisfaction then he got off a living that kind of life doesn't make some amazing videos videos you can watch this guy is living his life out there but you know we would only see people like once or twice a year when they would drop off goods and things that he needed but this guy was you know he wasn't a spring chick it moved out there when he's in his 50s wow yeah and I want to say he had two ways back cuz I moved back with his brother I want to say in the early 2000s somewhere around then like about just you know learning how fatiguing in his to hike learning how fatiguing it is to gather up your own firewood and he made most of his own tools are right there he's making a mallet I'm selfie drill drills a hole in it with a hand auger and then he makes his own Peg and he only brought in tools to make tools and the big tools like that he made all of them self amazing at home what do you live on just dear mean Barry's he got some oatmeal and stuff you know some dry goods that you would he would get in large battles coming in touch base. People would fly out to him with Goods but it mean he built all this shitt by himself he built his whole cabin by himself and he documented every step of the way his name is printed proenneke dick krenicki alone in the wilderness of the whole series on YouTube and he's on the side of a lake with this this cabin that he built living off of animals that he hunted and firewood and you know whatever food that he gathered I'm obsessed with this now and then I want it near a lake or a water source maybe preferably a well my own crops crops I need chickens he'd be right next to do an experiment to have his f****** lab and I'm going to be as guinea pig come on out and I'll just Escape your your Wilderness of my log cabin at their baking a pie and I know this is a chauvinistic fantasy a real piece of s***

that is something the politicians do that utilize this moment to try to use it to leverage their own causes their own pet causes think they think are also important people that did that with the invasion of Iraq Iraq is harboring terrorists they probably are getting weapons into the hands of people that go okay there was a whole story that was woven up and that was a way of of essentially crippling the fourth largest army in the world which was a rock and make Jimmy here the Bill Hicks bet he goes they said bil Iraq is the fourth largest army he goes yeah but after the first three there's a real big drop-off he's like the fifth largest is a Salvation Army about size of armies it's a war when there's two armies fighting General in the Iraq in the Afghanistan theater every single every single year would say we are at a turning point where the Taliban will be under our control every every every time they would make up a case for the Iraq War of more money I'm sorry for the Afghan war More Money More Logistics all those things that they required more troops the generals would say we are is always the same wording we're at a turning and we are going to we just need a little more and that's what that's what they have to say but what's interesting is if they really did accomplish that they actually cut off the Honeypot the darkest conspiracy ever that war is prolonged in order to prop up the military industrial complex and what's really crazy about the military industrial complex is when there was Eisenhower talking about it on TV which was a really terrifying when the first people were introduced to this concept Trump talking about recently he is doing this thing is like the military-industrial complex in these guys want to go to war like he's just saying it's what I casually like who are you talking about I have to believe that the government is is way more incompetent that it is confident I don't know it's just a massive bloated bureaucracy that doesn't run well and I know I know guys I know there's a there's a little bit of that is definitely a lot of incompetence but there's also a lot of collusion is also a lot of people doing things specifically because they know it's profitable massive bloated bureaucracy that doesn't run well and I know I know guys I know there's a group of people controlling everything the f*** out of you there's a little bit of that is definitely a lot of incompetence but there's also a lot of collusion is also a lot of people doing things specifically because they know it's profitable make money

there's a few other factors that are taken into consideration when people talk about longevity and health and those are Community enjoyment friends loved ones satisfaction with what you do for a living how do you take those into consideration and what do you think is going on with those definitely big so things that relates to stress is very important and I drink it study centenary stressful situation to cope with it really well and that's going on inside the mind and the body that's how it the body's reaction to stress do you meditate yourself I'm just tell anyway well you're also satisfied so you don't feel the need to

you do you need to get one of those DIY don't invite me listen you don't do it anymore you don't really do it I'm dead I I'm gay my sweet I love you yeah this is the level between doing what we did were you have a rifle and get to the point where you can do it efficiently places if it's legal that would be no the place for that for you would be Hawaii really yes Lanai Axis deer work is under the first family that gets eaten inside their tent by wolves and that can happen and has happened in history folks the first family that that ever happens to we're all going to have a big wake-up call as to what a wolf is it's not that I don't love walls I do love wolves and I want to that wolf connection that rescue out in The Descent it the Palmdale I went to it really recently with the forrest galante and as you see Willie Mays or now therapure cool spot but it's your walls are hybrids most of them are hybrids and one of them was about as close to a pure wolf as you can get and you couldn't do a goddamn thing with them this guy said that one time he admonished them for food fight and he was incorrect and the dope the wolf hasn't spoken to him since 3 years ago it was like f*** you used to put them on leash camels if they like you you're good if they don't like you those piss on you spit on you and they will grab you and bite you and throw you the pick you up by your network seen that don't f*** around with Karo I saw a guy trying to kill a camel he was trying to yeah there's like a certain way they killed camels for some religious I was not having any crabs in by the back of the neck and is f****** with some to the are you realize how strong are camel it bites your neck you're a hundred 50 lb man you going flying this guy trying to slice yeah this is another one okay yeah right there look at that guy nothing picked him up by his head he got his whole head in there look at that guy has whole head oh my God that wasn't even disconnect that thing grabbed his whole head didn't let go what if it shut them I'm saying are you would just held onto the head of times cut off your right hand to eat oh my God what was left over the last one you'd have said in the cold crab you'd be the last one to eat oh my God you have what was left over oh my God yeah

90 million cell phone users are missing from China to 5G they switched from 5G in January so from January to March China lost 20 million cell phone users that what does that mean though it's tell but I think you could safely say whatever they say the casualty number is is bulshit exactly that's pretty safe cuz they've been bullshiting left and right about the whole thing but I do know there's there go on Twitter there's some branch of the government is involved in propaganda is trying to say this is the United States government creation essentially communist or really at the mercy of a central Authority and all the all-powerful central Authority for so long forever even did a population of religion what you are left with is something that takes its place sure and ideology like communism or whatever but then I really comments anymore but I do think what happens is you get a population that deals in practicality that is unsure very good to each other when they know somebody that is but also deals in things like causing the fact not so much the over than one of the things a friend of mine I'm I'm speaking for a friend of mine has a lot of business so it speaks Chinese both of them that you speak about morality energy dokish Christian way when you think about until I took the wrong way to do it that in dealing in business with a Chinese company is not necessarily that's not really the way to approach business they are way more practical than that that doesn't mean that the average Chinese person not moral or ethical I don't know but certainly you will get burned if you are playing by the rules that you are used to which would be just don't do it to this not the right thing to do that's not going to find its way a lot of times when you're dealing in Commerce with China will you're dealing with a military dictatorship with thinks about things the same way to think about war right they are not our Ally there are I believe they are our enemy will do whatever they can and they also now have enough wealth and they have a huge middle-class where they can almost start this trying to become way more self-sufficient we don't have the symbiotic relationship we used to with China need our consumers as much as they did not even close they have their own consumers in their own country with weird is how much we need them for the manufacturing of Medicine is it because more money or is it more cost effective better at making it because they are because you have magic yeah I'm part of the reason I think is that that I love the quote from from why Nations fail I believe China yes they they put their users in concentration camps youkai bunted measuring the first thing they said is you cannot speak about the government issue say anything about the government you will be sent home owned by the way here's a cell phone brand you can use WeChat you're not using your iPhone when was this this was when I did a movie this summer so they gave you a phone and they said you can't use your phone on you and you don't get on Google you have to find thousands of fire we get find all different ways to get over their firewalls cuz they control the internet there make no mistake you use a VPN I don't know what that is virtual private Network or expressvpn you try to do that and then they blocked is a great quote that I've said it before probably even on this podcast and I love it you can hold a gun to a man's head and make him move a box or a rock you cannot hold a gun to a man's head and make Matt a great idea and as long any country and you have great power and Manufacturing you you will never be a country of great ideas because they are broke because you oppress people and people can't give you the f*** is the fingering she is the most powerful man in China along with this is people his is in a circle and if you in anyway look at the whistleblowers isn't it interesting the whistleblowers it wasn't supposed on the coronavirus are dead and they were they were doctors in their thirties did they die of the disease or what happened your whole life I was there and he was an American and said people get disappeared here all the time. You don't you don't speak against the government just doesn't happen and that's what I worry about anytime we have a pandemic like this where the government can just shut you down I just get very worried when the government has that kind of power and shut off once they start with that kind of totalitarian power is very difficult to turn that off Nancy Powers civil liberties they started the fire so they could do that as a false flag they go they did that's the same way did Nero burn Rome same reason who governs the governor is very important that you see in China they're not going to give that up for it while you see that would career politicians you see that with this this bill that they're trying to pass to the to help people that are dealing with this coronavirus because they can't work and they're slipping all kinds Planned Parenthood announcement about the environment to leverage their own causes their own pet causes think they think are also important is in there about the environment try to use it to leverage their own causes their own pet causes think they think are also important

that's how I ended up meeting Mikey bruschetti who is now Artie Lange's already doing is he doing all right it was great to see him sober and so so alert present so they're so honest and f****** hilarious he's like as funny as ever been f***** up nose laughing about it glass his girl broke up these pills with a f****** a salt shaker and cracked it and got glass in Zim snorted glasses nose was bleeding and he also got knocked out a guy who you owed money to his guy who owed money to Heart some kid to collect in the got punched in the nose and smashed his nose in so he had a double whammy happen to things the same time smoking a starting glass and then that dude he was so funny he was so funny so alert it was great it was like the RTI I knew years ago but even better like I don't think I've ever known already sober spiraling out of control you get involved it when you when you're going through it you're not seeing it once you done it and you have the balls and you look back there are hilarious I went to it they're all hilarious that you just keep getting in trouble isn't funny though that that's a human's pattern pattern that is so many humans falling out with Heroin garage the cop came down its things that would never ever happen under regular circumstances but the funk of the drug it just hit you at one time with everything and listen nobody Lamborghini cuz they had a bad time doing it you do have a really good time at first so it seems like you're having a good time your body left an opening somewhere you know just how are you immune system could let him coronavirus it sometimes your soul just has a weakness somewhere and that's when the Coco the heroin comes at I know it is mine right now he's like really so then he went down this f****** just hold you know and that's what rehabs do they catch you they slow you up they try to identify the problem with him was this father was it the firing of all of you know the radio guy that's what the rehab does she know that's what sets you the f*** off and you got to get yourself away from that I found out what set me off over the years you know there was a time that I could sit here for hours with it and I'm f****** Adam Bell kidnapping Bruce Springsteen double set CDs Born in the USA that golf $80 whatever they were going for $40 I'm getting 22 a piece I'm taking through a damn walking with the small 220 I got a hundred for Coke 54 weed and 54 lunch I still remember like doing this for a month like this like my addiction had me on this but I wasn't going to work when I'm out on bail I'm going to go to Sears Roebuck everyday and Rob born by the USA have to do much work I just had a walk-in walk-in to see is make believe I was looking for a hammer and then on the way I like just take a four of them pulling my shirt and walking One Day More you going to move to you might as well move five you can move five you might as well do 10 what's the difference so instead of taking four boxes I start taking like tents like I would walk here I am getting Chase one security guard in the car and the other guy on foot I can beat them both up by the way both of them but I just can't have no problems so what am I doing 28th Street Boulder police is coming right at me and I have to stop and give a fake name and f****** listen I just smoked three joints what you hear from you now you look fine. No more good place Reiko bnha right now be clean and sober I don't do enough to Warrant being f****** unsolved this just lets me know I'm okay it's like a teddy bear that though that's all this is for me refund

traffic and Harvey get a test cuz he's in Rikers Rikers has a massive outbreak nose yes yeah he's a he's a maximum-security he's a buffalo now you know I mean you probably will get through this easily look at the guy can barely walk his health is deteriorating the stress from this trout killed took 20 years of his life instantly years ago and said I want to show you your future dying in a bed in prison for things you've already done right now you're walking around Toast of the town getting in limos climbing out people are waving to you and cheering you getting interviewed on the carpet everyone shouts you out I just want to thank Harvey Weinstein for his amazing amazing company in the boobs you put together that allow me to shine how many people have you seen all the people that the praise him and then four years later imagine that he sent the things he's already done he's already done them at that point I wonder what they knew yeah they went back they knocked on doors what is acting so I rape you you don't go to that party women so I raped you at a party and now the next year is going to be another kind festival and you going to show up again and apparently this is Whitney Cummings take on it she said he would actually give them the things he would tell them he would give them so it's a hey you suck my dick I'm going to make you a star and you would ask do it would actually put them in these movies do we give them what they so they were happy so they would get all this treatment and they have to spend some alone time with him every now and then so they would send them emails lovey-dovey emails but really they hated them and that's where all this came out he didn't even see it coming cuz he thought that they loved him he thought that they would send him his email so he sent the emails to the Press like look look at all these emails these girls love me even though he had done scumbag shut them it's just he had it set up with this was how you got by this is how you made movies this is how you want to be famous this is how you get famous I can help you get famous you got to help me get rid of some come also feel real uncomfortable apparently the producer did not have symptoms and was under close observation was not clear why he had been tempted on you there's a lot of s*** that don't sound right to me they don't listen in Vick's of the last people that care about

I just told you I had let's not give you one of these capsules you won't see daylight till tomorrow okay Quincy quick Z what is that it's a little container if you want to sleep you come see me anything that put you to sleep naturally they put in their + 100 mg of indica or hybrid marijuana and you drink it dog the first night I drank it I found myself usually I fall asleep like you do like this riding read the computer I'm away from the computer I ate two pills oh my God I hate to Lee's first nothing happened nothing happened and I drank the f****** liquid and something started to happen but it wasn't going fast enough for like 10:15 I wanted to go to bed so I popped my birth my back was on fire I woke up I woke up I went to the kitchen I opened up the refrigerator I pulled out a half a pound of deluxe boy that Jesus shed just bought an american cheese and I took a pack of saltine crackers cuz of my mind I'm not even Brett I'm okay I'm not even wow in the whole thing of American cheese slice thin with crackers and I just went to bed I woke up the next morning I took off my master was a big chunk of American cheese and sleep apnea pasta how do you get into bed before the morning I went to bed at 4 in the f****** like I woke up at 3:30 and was like what the f*** happened oh my God I must have went down at a quarter to 11 I probably wouldn't this position for an hour and I just fell off the f****** store I just laid on the floor Nobody song I was like what the f*** happened oh my God I must have went down at a quarter to 11 I had been I probably wouldn't this position for an hour and then I just fell off the f****** store I just laid on the floor nobody Swami

but you have to be able to call out s*** that's wrong on your side and this is one of the problems that the Democratic parties have right now is Joe Biden guy you guys got to be able to call it out you can't let this slide cuz everybody else sees it and Trump is going to eat him alive he's going to eat that guy a lot but I can barely remember what he's talking about while he's talkin to know which one it was there's a few videos he forgets what he's talking about we should be making those masks we should be moving on those that later we can do that why doesn't he just act like a president that's a stupid way to say that that's just an example the one down there when he's talking to that lady I think that one was a struggle to it was a struggle fast recommended. Yeah see he doesn't know what he's talking about when he's talking and this is not this I'm looking at this like a medical condition okay I'm looking at this like okay when I'm calling a fight and I see a guy limping and Mike I think you heard his name Thiago Santos Guns Jon Jones I think he hurt his knee there I think of something going on with me that's what I'm looking at this issue that's not a normal way to communicate blasted on Edibles going what are we even talking about I don't think that's what it is I think he's he's old he's very old and I think he can't he doesn't look good either and they got makeup on them the skin is all pulled tight like a lizard baby I love this attitude so far and he's been honest and I'm telling you if you unless you're a f****** idiot just go to any Street Corner New York you know looking f****** footage from July lat it's too many people it's too many people are you going Uber people are sitting in cars with the windows shut breathing whatever he's breathing open up the car and let him and then I would take my Handi wipe out the window and close the f****** door before I got it when I get on the ferry I stand outside I don't sit in that I breathe at Hudson River and that's good for you that's as good as it's going to guess in fact that all those bodies and s*** floating in the air Aleutian whatever the f*** is in that but I know looking within weeks Teaneck right Teaneck was the one that got contaminated today Fort Lee got it and all that. That's all my f****** neighbor so I don't think nobody has really bad they close Hoboken like you aren't allowed to go into Hoboken only people lived in Hoboken good party in Hoboken then they just had a f****** shut it down meme on their page but might have been Donnell I forgot who I do remember who it was but anyway they had a meme on their page that said you're telling people you going to put them in jail if they go out after 8 p.m. are you letting people out of jail early cuz they got the coronavirus and someone going like what like what the f*** what are you saying are you going to lock people up but you're letting people out just got tested by Thin Mint some weed

do however test more than California so they're more accurate in terms of their numbers is more testing being done in New York City by think by three-fold than California it's crazy man this is a whole new time and I really hope it's a wake-up call for us there is a wake-up call my face got me to where I am to Faith in what I always have faith in the higher power and I doubt if anybody knows about, is me I'm the f****** poster boy for, I know all about it for me this is like a power letting the snow like it's a reset button take a look around you guys have gotten caught up in selfies $50 and $60 to park you know you go to movie theater you walk out an American Family can't go to a sporting event no more the normal American Family cannot go to a sporting event no more we got a lot of control Joe we can't move in apartments no more 1504 Studio we just got greedy man degrees been through much you know I got to feel bad for Disney losing 6000000 suck my dick c********* 140 a day I think that's the least of our problems the way we're living is going to be permanent comeback get under an overpass if it does rain in Lorain 10 days a year you'll be fine you know this is this is a great place because of that but because of that also would not humbled enough you know the places where people get humble to the places where people have to deal with the wreck nature snowy places roll cold places like if you go to any places near an ocean that's a little slap in the face like wake up b**** take a look at that you ain't shitt mountains or another one same thing like you die up there stupid is Bears up there is blinds up there they're f****** kill a deer with her face don't do nothing to fuk you up to go go hike go hike and get lost hippie and I like that it's a wake-up call those places and I think this is a wake-up call for the whole country the whole world is a wake-up call gaurav honorable and it's also wake up call and I can't say this enough people take care of your health please is a one defense for this that seems to be agreed upon by almost everyone is that if you have a strong immune system of a better chance to get through any sickness and you can do something to strengthen your immune system your immune system is something you can work on you know you can work on it by cleaning up your diet you can work on it with regular exercise you can work on it with regular sleep all those things have a real big impact on the immune system also vitamin supplement with vitamins eat a healthy diet get some exercise and if you can get in a f****** song everyday tremendous for your body producing heat shock proteins for your body word information alleviating stress is great for your cardiovascular system it's just great for you there's a bunch of different things you can do you can use this as like okay I'm alive and now there's a wake-up call I'm so glad this didn't happen to me I didn't get wrecked by this I'm going to get my life in order and can be done it's something that will ever want to do in this is the time to do it this is a good time to do it if you're surviving you getting through this is a good time to get your health in line what you don't know about me really I would never I never believe from the age of four to six because of my dad dying and my mind going somewhere my immune system fell apart it was respiratory I always got cold always shots you know vaccines I knew the People by first name at the hospital at Roosevelt Hospital New York I mean it was real with me when I was sick something to announce while asthma you really which one untreated like I just said you have asthma still like my mother said it's a faggets don't worry about if you don't need anything right now f****** thing and then when I was 16 I got pulled off of 13 days for lung infection from paraquat services that like I'm not supposed to smoke I never supposed to smoke when I smoke pot griefing it would be an event that would have to take three or four days off it would crush me for that long to build a tolerance of who I smoke dope with like if I smoked up with me you and Jamie and somebody else the next day temperature do you get sick from someone yet 1314 I smoked weed once somebody else comes into that Circle I would get sick so I had to knock that out so I had to be very aware at a young age who I smoked with I got sick a lot when I was competing I wasn't taking care of myself back then I got sick a lot cuz it was always stressed out too nervous cuz fighting all the time so you know you get ready and the week's up to a tournament either that's the most stressful in the week of the always come down with something you want to finding sick. Sick in Anaheim I flew out to California to find the national that's what sick had three fights sick did we figure out what the percentage California find the Nationals that's what sick had three fights sick did we figure out what the percentage

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these huge anxiety attacks when I work out every like every wait I got to go to the bathroom before and right before I get my car I got to take a long does medication help you when you take a Xanax Galaxy, how I Joey B is a secret so, you ready for Joe Rogan aye if I don't know that we getting xanaxs from a pharmacy so I was getting volumes of he's the one with movies you know anything can we can we buy some if you got to meet me at the broker so I would make the oil and we'll come up and go buy more you're going to pass out you could die like that when people OD that's what they eat f****** Xanax in a f****** I thought it just relaxes you as you ready this is what I realized 20-30 years I was moping Mike I was selling them I was dating that chick that didn't didn't get high so for me to be around out about those Zanny bars and I would be high tide be good enough for me so I was used to pop like sex that's it just want to tell you how do you feel like f***** up f***** up two drinks and a couple Zanny bars you get f***** up this is before it is anybody supposed to drink 10 milligrams of a Valium 5 of it your body utilizes five it the other five go into your fat in your body holds onto it to use it as a science Xanax out of my fat if you jog would you get high for 12 years at the 7-year mark from find the time and I bumped into a Coke product but just went through my system and I get all paranoid creepy for a minute like I was still digesting Ash it throughout the years but I believe that those bars and all those little I only one of them I eat one of them sometimes I get really high anxiety before I'm about to go up and all your other one once I get down there but then I won't even afford that is if I don't need them until and then sometimes I remember to take it out and put them in the back in the thing sometimes I just drove back in the thing sometimes I just drove in the hamper my wife washes one of my friends would take some says it when you get off of very highly addictive full you also said that when you get off of them heightens your anxiety not a rubber band effect that's what he was saying for him personally

she's talking about putting on a fight April 18th you know I don't know how they're going to do that I don't know they're going to be able to do that in the United States the talking about doing in a place with less than 10 people and then they do you know that was just an open arena I guess someone's going to commentate it it's not going to remain and that they're going to be duking it out like in an empty place and they're going to try to do that on the 18th they did it last card in Brazil because it was ordered by the government the government ordered a large Gatherings to break up on the started seeing the cases of Corona rising in Brazil so they had to do the Brazil card indoors know people weird so but they're going to plan to be in Tony this way they going to plan it so doesn't even have to be a big place they could do it like a film studio like legitimately they could sit they could set this up in a film studio somewhere Tyler Perry's got a place in Florida they can go down a floor rent one of the Tyler Perry's gigantic film studios setup we did it in when we didn't fight for the troops when they did UFC did they just would use an airplane Hangar and the troops be there that they would be the whole audience of troops near you and it would set up this octagon in an airplane Hangar and is pretty powerful different different real different different kind of show but they could do that they could do that in the studio or just add large Warehouse UFC could do it set up the lights have some crazy high-speed hook up to the Internet with party getting uploaded and we're watching it from here I mean that they could definitely do that the UFC has the capability the thing is having to make sure that nobody has it you know you can have to test everybody and if someone has a d Let them fight like what if they have it in there like Idris Elba they have no symptoms but they got the corona like what if khabib as a Corona or would have Tony has the coronavirus khabib even fight him this fight is so f****** Hurst NBA Gamecast like I could be so hard to make it happen even if it's only 10 people to room at first for a couple of days now he's mad at Dana my f****** thing I don't want this to happen by itself in a f****** airport in Havana Cuba I don't give a fuk but we've waited so long is the fourth time 304 I think this is the fourth hospital visit broken me how many times has been canceled I'm going to say I think this is the fifth time it's many times though and it's the best fight just as maybe ever then the next test is positive then the f****** city of New York went under and I'm like all know everything is pointing the wrong direction I go by Vegas pay-per-view just to see khabib and get it over with you imagine it's 6903 trainers in each Corner. Everybody can one guy and a better view what's going on when you're watching it home okay so it looks better headphones on iWatch with headphones because I'm watching like us what I was down the screen sometimes when I'm watching fights I have to sometimes I get a better view I can't see what the f*** is going on is pillars in front of me or what's happening we don't need them they're within social distancing we are right here to put them in a test Bruce Buffer big old f****** scuba helmet does it have to be pay-per-view do you think cuz there's no system for of course it's really no, you a communist so you got to be a douchebag somebody loses how am I going to put a walk this that's three or four prelims 5 prelims and then four fights before that so I'm talkin 10 fights I'm talkin 20 people 3 or whatever the trainers that's a lot of people Joey Ramone f****** place of winter so we can't we got eliminate the early prelims and just do the main card they could do that with everybody everybody everybody cannot share a space either I cannot be in this room with yoel Romero that's all inside kisses he's about to fight but if everybody's tested and everyone's negative than who gives a s*** that should be the only thing in your negative space either I cannot be in this room with yoel Romero with that flow inside kisses he's about to fight but if everybody's tested and everyone's negative than who gives a s*** that should be the only thing in your negative but this should be able to wander around

universities letting students back in today Jesus is going to look out for him yeah there was an article on CNN on Liberty University opening up its doors again students like this just started you fox you can't just you know what do you think we are right now beginning you really think more cases every day there's more people getting sick yesterday and I don't quote me on this because it's a very special day to him a special day. This virus doesn't give a f*** and if you don't respect it people are going to die and there's people like the lieutenant governor I think is who he is of Texas who is like we should take a risk with older people just to get the economy back in line people like whoa what are you saying you think they're kind of you should we should get the economy back in line and bite do any kind of some old people going to have to die you're ready to sacrifice people for money older people would rather die than let covid-19 harm US economy Texas official said older people would rather die that's what he says Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick okay yeah and you know you saying that he's in that high-risk category himself cuz he's 70 you notice these politicians are terrified that this is going to lead to an economic disaster and their names going to be stuck on it you know I think they were terrified at first that they had they had to act that a close things down they didn't have a plan and now they realize like oh my God this might have to stay locked down for a long time what happens you, yeah you didn't have a plan so they locked down and now they're like listen this could last a long time we got to take we got to start the Rumblings now I'm getting this ball rolling again because if it's go 6-7 months and no one's working no one can go outside their house or six seven months like this is crazy what we won't have any money and China going to take over Tucker Carlson at his whole piece he did that I saw there was actually pretty accurate and where he's talking about what what could be possible do you like he was talking about how the NBA what did you see that whole segment where the NBA they had said something about China and then then you see all these people that were praised in China and saying positive things about China what was this what was the reason behind that Jamie your MBA guy the GM for the Houston Rockets tweeted like support for Hong Kong that's right that's right and then trying to get pissed at that until then they started tweeting nice things about China and they started at the time of that happened that there was like an NBA teams in China doing games and then just come back and then they start asking all them what they thought about this and then like the bronze started supporting China I think and then everyone jumped on them and money over people I think you mean that they face consequences for supporting Hong Kong yeah well would talk across from the saying in this piece was that imagine if that's the the whole country like understand that like a China's the ruler of the world of China becomes the ruler of the world not the United States because of something like this like this is all really possible like the idea that the United States is the ruler of the world so it has to stay the ruler of the world forever no natural disasters disease f****** asteroid impact has a bunch of different things that could shift the balance of power in the world ROM used to run everything right do you know that there's a European England UK English to run to have the f****** planet there's a lot of different countries that were on top of the world that are no longer on top of the world and we would be in a real sticky situation if we had to live under the same military dictatorship the China does and the idea that we would never have to live under that we we can't wear America but that's ridiculous because we're human beings and other human beings are stuck in a circumstance where they're living under a dictatorship so there's no difference between culture and the place where they live that that ships things change with natural disaster with disease with failure of the economy with war with all these different factors things change and our perception much like our perception of our society itself it's always going to be like this and also this disease comes along and shut everything down you like whoa that's a wake-up call need to recognize that this is kind of fragile is fragile if those things happen natural disaster disease wore anything catastrophic happen if the balance of power completely ship and who knows whose control the survivors are under who knows who knows how this is all real touch-and-go right now this is real touch-and-go this is Uncharted Territory where we have slipped into a place where no one's working and everyone's scared and the president wants to go back to work on Easter because it's a special day to him and Joe Biden can't talk the guy was running for f****** president for the Democrats can't talk did you see the deleted the latest hit Tim Dillon sent me two videos he's like what the f*** is going on but he's in cognitive decline Governor New York Cuomo put them in put them in coach put them in you want it you want a guy to run for president that makes sense you want a guy who's an intelligent guys a strong leader was New York Cuomo and put them in coach put them in you want it you want a guy to run for president that makes sense you want a guy who's an intelligent guys a strong leader was got a lot of experience press the f*** out of me the last 2 weeks

do they dip traced it to a very specific type of animal I thought this thing always transfers motion told me this then that birds need a pig the pig is the perfect conduit of transferring like at the Berber disease won't come from like straight to a person that needs to go to a pig and the pig can infect Whitney was telling me this that a Pangolin is like the most the most what is the word you would use where the someone is transferring animals I'm fucken slow today my brain slow today and you know what a penguin is dare to stop f****** thing look it up there the screen look that that thing that's how the penguin penguin that is the most exploited animal in the world and they eat them in China and so this f****** thing is where is China as laws to stop Pangolin trafficking how to stop the sale of wild animals you can't sell wild animals in United States but you can sell well you can sell wow fish but you can't sell Wild Animals United States that's weird things about fish what about those like exotic people in like that documentary you know like by are those wild animals I mean for food animal in the world how is that possible, she's the one who told me that seems to be true it's in the New York Post as well there it is the rainforest of the Congo Cameroon and Central African Republic lives in elusive mammal that looks like a cross between an anteater and armadillo and a Pinecone and thanks to poacher the Penguins the most trafficked animal on Earth in April 2019 Singapore sees the world record 25.6 tons of pain scales worth 76.5 million from an estimated 38,000 of the creatures in December the scales from some 50,000 African penguins were seized by Chinese authorities his wife volunteer for the Sangha penguin project and preservation Society the penguin burrow burrow to create holes so the skin associated with circulation it's used as an ingredient in traditional Asian medicines used to help mothers for lactation and for blood pressure but none of this has been clinically proven so it's like tiger teeth I definitely worked at all it's not even that because a lot of it is a status thing it's like so if you are a really wealthy Chinese businessman and you're into this kind of stuff like you want to show that you skirt the laws of right animal tracks shark fin soup across the world rhinos they want that tea that they make a rhino horn because he could discuss business over Rhino t the Wade China lockdown Wuhan when they decided to visit there's no f****** around spraying to handle this lock it down clean it up and they never trust me no State media says they were saying that all their new cases are inbound so it's Travelers coming in how convenient it's all these f****** Italians yeah come over here for shark's fin soup and Rhino T f****** virus c**** yeah it's the rigatoni virus now it is in cases as of this morning that's 5% of world cases that's what that's what the news was last night they say that for every one person that test positive 10 of them but not even been tested that have it yet there's for sure way more cases are you over 65 minutes out really Jesus do you have these symptoms you can order one online if you can get up test going right now you could be a great business that would be and it would be a great way to like you know figure out who needs to really be staying home

yeah you can go if the other thing is strange is that you consume the media you know like the news of it oh my God what's going on and then you can walk down the street or drive down the street and forget but you know I mean like there's a sense of another doctor and she's like oh I already know like what's happening so I just choose not to have be bombarded by it to your view of the world so can heighten your anxiety and you're paranoid people or anxious already people already have anxiety issues they must be a f****** wreck right now absolutely cuz they are like oh my God I was right the world is ending there's a mandatory lockdown across the entire country except Montana it's weird to have this going on honestly and promote you're like I feel like there's so many people at home I understand the whole marketing of and how that work that you just like you know that you're on these calls me like a special isn't crazy as a pandemic so what did you guys shoot it stories yeah yeah they were already that that's where I got the title I was on the road that was Jay and my date and I saw I saw a nice lady doing really expensive stuff to this guy's balls there's a whole sub-genre dedicated to this so I typed it in and they're like you might enjoy ball Hogs so that feature these ladies do some cells in the urine have a ball hog so they all do it and they really work on guy's balls like hardcore really dead and so in the special at one point just reference not that feeling but I just tell people that that their mothers are ball Hogs and then I think it's one of the hardest things you know pocketnow live from here you just the worst but you got good ones but anyways I was going back and forth with different titles and I was suggested actually Josh my manager who's the boss and I smiled ear-to-ear I was like yes no I mean you could but they don't want it to be called take it down take it down

you said that Imagine song. All those knuckleheads got together and saying this is not the time when everyone's Grammys dying you f****** idiot to sing imagine there's no heaven and there's this sense of you feel like they that they feel like they did something like she's seducing you I lost my job at the Meatpacking plant but Gal Gadot sang imagine terrible version you guys suck at singing why you even singing publicly I tried to do that then I did want you guys so let's just jerk off together and I can't believe Emily P I mean I guess that she must reach out to them sending you singing out they want to be like tight with her like she or Wonder Woman the market I think I have it I think there's some Comics did something like that yeah that's what they did right you know sort of like just capturing a genuine moment in your life which is really hard to do on social media anyway because you feel like a f****** dork it was a weird feeling for though is like letting imagine you had worked with gout right I thought about this to it like you did something you were in a movie or somewhere and then she hit you up Pam trying to do this you have that moment of pain specialist that, cuz you was like so much self-awareness but you're like and then you have to like figure out attacked just just don't respond hundred percent 100% first of all I could give two fux whether or not I'm ever in a movie again ever and another two fux whether or not I talk to her so I feel like I've heard she be like what's up she's like will you sing a line from Imagine and I think you're great let me tell you what I would do if I wasn't even if I wasn't a comic if I saw someone do that I'll be like what in the f*** do you think you're accomplishing with this I felt so much better today seeing celebrities sing imagine you made it better I made the one that is not really on her own vomit but I feel like the world's better because Gal Gadot so pretty imagine there's no heaven and at the end big smile she did like a really like sincere look into the camera like look what I did for you did she I mean to you I never got a chance to be exposed before they want Tonight Show they do these things to do these interviews everything was real fluff yeah just leave them alone with a phone or you get great stuff you see Tom Hanks wife singing along the Naughty by Nature I'm pattern of that. It's not easy to mimic she did a good job but it's also so obvious that she wasn't trying to be anything other than have fun yeah well when you're drinking children's blood every night for dinner you have fun did oh I think so I don't know with no makeup right she's not trying to get dolled up like this these people that it some people are doing he's like quarantine. Day 5 here we our day Farm it's like so contrived and super contrived I guess they want to connect with people and they want to talk to people but I mean what are we doing we are but we're having a conversation we would have this conversation if there was no microphone yeah I mean that's always have a good time it's fine

how's weed everything owl flying with a rabbit a big ass rabbit in his claws ones just so vicious head spins around have you ever seen that video there's a nest video of these Hawks that are in a tree and is Owl comes out and snatches won the Hawks and flies away you just from a distance or like what is that right when you met the one with eyeballs they're f****** monsters freaky animals man and we we think of them as being these wise like a professor is of the woods for some strange reason have you ever heard Matt braunger Zhou of it now it is one of the funniest thing his early on you know getting his his first big joke that broke and you know it was on Letterman and he was on Comedy Central at 8 Hilaire I got to see it I got to see it it's one of those weird animals that we have this very strange relationship with what we don't know what they really are bears or another one of this distorted perception with their heads you see a video that was going around about the guy who got his face literally eaten off by Grizzly and they shot the grizzly when it was on top of them know his face is gone is talking about like you can see one eye through this mass of Jamie shakes his head lice and it's just one of those things we're okay so this is the bear and this is the guy and that's his face and this is him talking where are you where are you seeing this and I'm good I'm doing good bro well that chimp worked on her for a while did you see the tree trimming out and go lower their Jamie Galore what you've never seen that we talking about dude and there's and you get to see the live because he goes into the guy's face and you can see even his completely destroy face panic and it's like he knows how serious his situation is yeah I mean I don't know I haven't seen the post-surgery stuff that dude at Regis like he cut he was drowning and like he just cut it and it's hurting me I just load up every year with a million rounds of ammo is go hunting bears you big one Nickelodeon Arcana swipe my friend watched a bear kill a moose with one SWAT broke its back he watched chases moose through a scope was looking at through a spotting scope which is like like a super powerful telescope that you could look at you like that my mile away can watch things happen snapped its back where you have to snap a Moose's back but we have powerful is that animal to big f****** animal man you know you're talkin about 1,500 lb of muscle and fat

Tina Wolverine Chase off wolves Wolverines are a little like a 35-pound animal everything gets the f*** away from it like Jesus cuz they're so ferocious today so crazy and they they feel like no pain this in the future this is March 24th on Tuesday in everyone's on f****** full lock down here they're talking about doing a UFC they don't know where it's going to be for khabib vs. Tony Ferguson they're talking about doing that somewhere somewhere in another country and I told Danny Stewart on a battleship doing a battleship International Water Supply everybody of them helicopter yeah you can't do that with any other sport know you cuz you don't need many very many people you just need the fighters yeah I don't even know if they're going to have an undercard and then the more the crazier the setting for a fight the more excited I could be like and they'll be Lions roaming and they'll accept imagine one of those cheeks that has a trillion dollars they do it in my puss this is no problem at all this is a fucken sanitize a s*** out a couple jets fly everybody in sanitize the runway just crates of Lysol absolutely everything it would be they would do it right actually could do it right they could test everyone well what do you do if someone has like a symptomatic they want to fight anyway you got to go you got to go if it's Tony Lee test positive resting heart rate slow everything's fine too much of a new go walk around after a big plastic suit I guess at the other fighter would like I'm cool with it what's the resting heart rate slow everything's fine too much will let you go you're shedding it manager shedding it as you walk around after he's over we'll just cover him in a big plastic suit I guess at the other fighter was like I'm cool with it

signs off on a lot of outrageous idea what they're doing I mean I made game every cycle of shows they always have one that goes oh my god did you watch The Outsider no Millions yeah it's it's fantastic it is such a cool f****** story the whole scope of that scam is it will f****** blow your mind what is the scam so was a lottery thing or something like that from so you obviously remember the Monopoly game that you would play right don't so they kind of healthy but twice a year where they would go the monopoly McDonald's game and what happened is you go to McDonald's and you would buy a Happy Meal or Big Mac and on like the fries and the drink would be like a peel-off thing and you could win prizes so you pull off a thing and you like you could win it could be something as small as like you want free fries so you could be like I got you know I want another order of fries or a Coke or a jet ski or a car and cash prizes million-dollar prices so bye-bye playing the game which was essentially by something by Emile it would drive up sales obviously right like sale to go way up because people wanted to win these prizes what everybody that one for this I want to say I forget now but like 15 year. Or something they were all in on a scam they were all fake winners a guy was Wing pieces and giving them two people connected to him it was all a lie nobody was legitimately want to do that that's the whole that's the series man it's been fascinating because two people and they're talking about it in the series like people connected to him they like after a while it's like it's weird that you know we have one in like this 300 mile radius and eight of them are Italian really tipped off yet because the guy was you know Italian was going to friends and family yeah it was it was really f****** crazy and then it was just it was they got tipped off FBI got tipped off and then this whole investigation that's what the series six-part series that's what it reveals is just the scale in the scope of this incredible scam it was a scam man did this got work from McDonald's no there's all these different characters in it but basically McDonald's had to hire a a company that would oversee the game like the security of the game and they would also have to hire another company to print you know like the pieces and all that and within those companies the corruption light McDonald's didn't know wow and it did it but the story is fat in the characters are outrageous to I mean the Colombo family is part of it in other crime family I got to watch it it's good man it's really good there's so many of those multi-series or multi-show documentary-style that are fascinating get behind of something like that like this Tiger King to thing to your like men do you know that's why you need that platform right like an HBO or Netflix to be like tell us the whole story as f****** awesome yeah like that about being killed his ex-wife yes dude and you just cannot believe some of the twists and turns of something like this it just and then there was like a part of that I mean I'm jumping around at the owl Theory where they're like maybe an owl came and attacked her and that's what I said yes and then it could have happened and then there was like a part of that I mean I'm jumping around at the owl Theory were there like maybe an owl came and attacked her and that's what I say yes yes yes and they're like they were owls in that area it could have happened like people have all these conspiracy theories about amazing

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when I was 21 and I was first starting to Comedy that's what I was really devouring as much of it as possible cuz I was trying to figure out like how to not be so lazy how to be motivated how to get s*** done and how to how do I find the correct path and think about things correctly until II that's when I really got to go so I can mine exercise to talk about things too like if you did do it it would help you but really what it's all about is getting your s*** together and moving just go do something like what you did by taking a job when you show up at a gig and you'd be working there Tuesday through Sunday and then take a day job and work nine-to-five that is more hustle and more hustle mindset than anything you're going to get out of an Anthony Robbins book is like just doing it just doing it makes you do more like do more hardship makes you do more hardship understand that you want it bad you willing to put in the work and do things you don't want to do it's what makes you have that confidence that you know how to push through and that the mentality that I'm the type of do to get s*** done like I'm going to shop not going to waste my day just sitting around a f****** hotel room now I'm going to go to work I'm going to work all day I'm going to drive 5 hours and keep that radio gig and then drive out and spend 10 hours of the f****** 24 in a day in a goddamn car Ford Focus gigs just did two gigs keep that radio get those things are everything I had on yesterday just got Dan Crenshaw he's a congressman is also a Navy SEAL we're talkin about mentality I'm like when you went through buds is it do they teach you how to think or do they show you by example if they don't teach I think they just show you that Harden you through all that work and through all that work to that insane hell week all the s*** do you have to do when you going to buzz train the six months of breaking you down and building you backup they teach you could do anything just by by making you do anything so you will understand how you can pass your limits what you thought your limits were are no longer your limit that's what I feel like is missing from a lot of people to get into motivational Des motivational. more louder that most people or doing motivational speaking should stop stop you just robbing people you not even motivated yourself like I want to see I want to wake you up at 3 in the morning oh come on we're going running like mac only see what you do when you're tired we see how you push yourself come on get up get up again tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow the next day get up get up get up get up keep going how long can you maintain a positive attitude teaching yourself people that you could do it the best motivational speakers to me I got is like David Goggins cuz that that guy that that's not f****** that coin right there every day and he's got video just did a hundred mile race the other day put up the results on Instagram showing up 22 hours after the race starts he finishes a hundred miles I got abs on a coin he's an animal you choose of them he's got the world record chin-ups in in 24 hours he did some Preposterous number of chin-ups what's up I believe he was beat recently being doing something there's a lot of people that are teaching your motivation they don't have a business they don't they're not their business is motivation like it's a weird those are real motivational speakers cuz they're actually doing something there's a lot of people that are teaching you motivation they don't have a business they don't they're not their business is motivation like as a weird business it's like it's like teaching someone how to drive a race car you never drove one

Psychiatry is the enemy of Scientology they have all these there's a big science of Psychiatry kills and it's like someone would like an electric f****** shock thing in their head going on in Hollywood like they're there on this Crusade against against Psychiatry that's like a big part of what Scientology is what's the number one headquarters Clearwater that's my sister lives down there she was real close to where the number to the headquarters as f****** weird down there man everybody just they're all walking with the got a secret do you think in this Society do you think Scientology will be the last religion created like when you really think about how recent Scientology is the 1940s or 50s someone that like it's roughly the same age is like United Airlines Delta Airlines which religion religion created so you can see IRS and they started thousands lawsuit the idea was that they were going to sue the IRS into recognizing them as a legitimate religion and the way to do that which is overwhelm them with litigation and crazier cuz Lawrence right goes into depth with all these different people that like as they were realizing that it was horseshit like bad as they were getting like the the ninth level of Doom papers and Hemphill button-up it's handwritten nonsense by a retard like that that guy who wrote it was he was self he was like self-diagnosing all of his his own personal ailments and dealing with them himself and then trying till I pass out off as like a way to live amongst all these people they're paying attention to him call with started for him from himself diagnosing is it is it natural for scientologists and I'm only I only know what I know from that Dock and Leah Remini lifetime she is it natural to not be like the way a Christian issues openly Christian just hate how you doing the lord loves you I'm here to tell you about Jesus I don't really feel like to get that from time to Chicago PD yeah I know you like you never find out that somebody was into that s*** until after that out of it now I think people keep it tucked in the bikes and you know what the deal is right now they keep it tucked in but I think back in the day they used to talk about it openly is probably a proselytized they try to get you to join like just try to get people to come to the free workshops I was different things on anxiety different things on the Mind Dianetics that's what he decided to write about Dianetics and is like the science of cleaning your mind and avoiding all external influences that are negative and that are ruining your your perspective and you should be commercials for that and 80s and 90s book of five rings I bought f****** Art of War I bought everything I was just trying to figure out what's the best I was in the psychology when I was young because fighting all the time and I was always scared so I was trying to figure out this got to be a way to like overcome these mental hurdles like does that was like for martial arts competition the big thing was the fear wasn't your physical ability wasn't as much of a hurdle as the fear you know if the fear of competition was terrible but sometimes I feel it'll be great and other times be f****** terrified and like a white guy figure out how to be consistent so I started getting into all that kind of stuff and then when I came to La so I could 94 I saw a Dianetics commercial volcano take over yeah I was like thinking that I was going to be able to figure out all my mental problems with his book now I got on the list and every week I got some new workshop to go to or this I contact to call the compasses because of Dianetics from them that much it was so much s*** was like letter after letter more than like the grocery store I was on a list of someone who bought the book but didn't go to any classes and they knew where I was like maybe I could get them clean up your brain that much it was so much s*** was like letter after letter more than like the grocery store also knew where I was like a bother me bothering me like it bother me that I was on a list I was on a list of someone who bought the book but didn't go to any classes and they knew where I was like maybe I could get him we just knock on his door hey you want to clean up your brain solution

should be nonprofit I got a f****** breaking story for you I forgot what I cannot believe I almost forgot this so you know the guy in those texts that the big black guy sitting with his sitting on the Angela bad looking like he's like have you seen a bigger dick right that's what his expression is but it's so so and by the way that the the bat meme of likes kind of had gone viral I mean like every 25 a day from different people Jesus Christ it's not just in like a crap I'm sure people listening or watching have have have seen it as well so I was like this sense of relief from the seriousness of the day you'll be having you just seem like they hide and you know quarantine text and is this guy so I saw an article where the photographer who took that photo was like he was like oh it's so sad that people are using his image that way because you know he passed away and he thought it was kind of offensive that he was being used to prank or whatever and he said you know I saw that people started selling merch with this guy's face on it and he goes I just wish you could the photograph and I'm not trying to come after me when I just wish they would share proceeds of that merch with the family so I saw that and I was like oh I want to do that so I launched a shirt with that guy's face on it that says wash your hands and then and then I go to give the proceeds to this Man's family so because of the article I reached out to people I was able to get in touch with the photographer the guy who took that picture and then I found I got in touch with his the the the models fiance who I contacted her I found her I've learned a little bit about this guy in that photo and I'm giving them the proceeds from the shirt sales all of them go to them and I also found that when he when he died like the family wasn't prepared like financially for anything so they had set up a GoFundMe for his funeral in Tucson and all that so I'm going to blast it out but I talked to him and they're happy with it so that's my breaking news oh please don't tell me that's going to take a while to pull it up please I found it took me like I was feeling like detective work to find her and she was like I found out about this meme today she was like I didn't even know this was a thing not send it to her I think so now she's saying to me she goes even though he was because he did those photos when there's a really bad time is life needed money to save the house that he grew up in that was his name will just show the deck what's the original deck two different picture but that's a different picture that's it's the same photo shoot right but the actual photo does a giant dick there do don't know what you talking about what the size of his heart different well that's a weird angle so we can I think he's doing looks like solo. You know

you see that couple what they did do see that today that so Trump was talking about oh and yes and then one of them want to say the name wrong so whatever it I forget what it is like to kill bacteria that's the one that they took the same name of it Nathan and another the same name without the - is actually a medication it's a medication for malaria malaria correct but they took Koi pond fish tank medicine we used to kill everything in the koi pond we figured hell jet took it needs dead well. The woman they were talking to her and they said now it was Frank is the the reporter was baiting her to report it was like now disses you saw President Trump say that you should take the yeah they were showing it a lot that's what she said they're showing it a lot I know it's a different name two different name has the same beginning I got a p i feel comfortable saying this public PSA you probably don't have the Cure at home right now I feel comfortable with you saying that unless you just got back from somewhere we had to take something for malaria yeah maybe men maybe maybe you have it yeah it's a different medication and blaming people tell people to drink Koi pond killer didn't do that he's been hilarious in this one lady I was talking about this earlier this is one lady who is getting she's an opportunity to talk to Trump in a press conference and she said did you hear that one of your one of the members of your cabinet referred to as the Kung Fu Lou you know what say that again play Make Her Say it and then they just who who said it and will I heard someone if you heard this is the one question you have the United States during one of the biggest Health crisis is the world has ever known and you were mildly racist term is what you want to check in on write a statement that like I love are asian-americans and same lady has kellyanne Conway same thing same question and you know and there is it she's like I'm not going to get into speculation here about a guy which kind of interesting is the most outspoken critic and she's his most Ardent Defender. Some people can be like hunters and do live they're both so vocal about what do you want to eat by the way how great would have been if Trump or kellyanne Conway had been asked about the Kung flu in their life are you going to think that they're going to say it's not a funny term I don't know man I read the terrible thing that the one lady said that some lady she's Asian and she was at a store and some lady yelled at a mascot Shield f*** you at our interface and then she took off her mask and coughed at her out there but I won't blame an Asian American person of Asian descent live in America has a zero to do with any of this on someone else and if it's an Asian person or all the all these poor seek PA it's bad enough that you're doing it but I'm not even the target yes we are trying to reach you or thank turbines everyone that Urban is Muslim you forget forget like you know the world's full of idiots to those are the people you really got to worry about you know I don't want people die from this disease horse but I would like us to lose a significant portion of our moron population it be cool if it's on low IQ individual kill because you're some low IQ people that are really nice but it would be great if it was low IQ people who are mean I guess there are a lot of older people dying so last few weeks here's one Silverline we went into the Facebook pages of all the people who died and 64% were racist that be awesome that would be nice the other 36 just nice old grannies it's it's terrible Battle of their neighbors terrible

thing about these texts kids and they were they were piled onto this this area together it's like this I don't know it looks like some outdoor party area but they were just stacked in there like sardines and people like holyfuck like yeah yeah you you didn't you didn't raise your kids right when I was a kid you know I especially when I lived in Jamaica Plain to make a plane was like this is area that we only live there for about maybe less than 2 years will a year-and-a-half and it was like on Urban section of Boston that since been gentrified apparently apparently it's nice now but back then was sketchy was like all kinds like everyone Irish kids Italian kids black kids Puerto Rican kids but no one was getting good parenting everyone's parents most people wrong people are there like it was weird there wild people at the whole block was filled with wild people that weren't bad people it wasn't like a crime-infested dangerous neighborhood of sketchy and everyone was a mess everyone on my block my next door neighbor we talked about this before they were a punk rock Band Called Death in the shopping mall and they used to play downstairs in the basement and they have these thick layers of carpet set up in the basement so they had carpet all over the door carpet all the ceiling many many many many many layers of these guys would f****** go off and playing guitar and f****** screaming and I was I guess I was 11 years old these Savages they just more playing crazy f****** loud music and you didn't see punk rock people a lot back then the bus stop on Dale Mabry I need a punk rock haircut every morning Garden school that will look at him and go to Gainesville Florida which was a college town with a Gainesville Gainesville Florida River Phoenix Ted Bundy so we live there for a little bit and that was like just kind of college people and in the apartments we lived in just regular folks it was nothing crazy you didn't really say too much craziness and fall as far as crime or a sketchy folks everyone's pretty normal different races different backgrounds but you know just people apartment life you know we moved Milo's kids while they break into f****** Warehouse buildings and they were in this day everyone knew how to steal a car to like 13 that they were all smoking everyone smoking like I immediately went into this crazy environment of whoa whoa whoa whoa I was like my dog Marshall and like a room full of like rabbit German Shepherds it was rough man it was rough when I was kind of mutual neighborhood where was very aggressive yeah you can you can certainly get ruined by bad kids and no one knows that more than dads like Dad see you hanging around with sketchy cuz I can hang out only can hang around with that f****** guy dad see where that stuff goes sketchy boys can get you locked up like we did a lot of sketchy s*** when I was 13 years old and I remember thinking my wow these guys been doing this their whole life and their 13 I mean why I just stumbled I just want to be someone's friend you know my f*** this. That's why I took up fishing reel value Community today when I was young I felt like really disconnected my parents split up and then my mom moved him a stepped out and he's a great guy. So I was never around kids and I knew for a long. Of time and I never felt like I was safe I remember two kids are always start fights like boys and then when I away from these kids and I found this Lake that was a near me I really got into fishing Jamaica pond in Jamaica Plain table stocked with trout it was bass and they're all kind of fish are all the time I met this whole community of people fish their most liked older folks there was fish there and but you'd learn about fishing and Starfish like all the time and all the time you know who you are cuz I just know who I am remember remember being like totally anti-pot and then my buddy came in so I can only get high and I was like okay and we got high on a dock or never forget he was the most criminal out of all of our friends and he was selling weed and we are 13 and he do dat like it's seen some s*** like even 13 wasn't mean or how to eat a 13 or you just call him he had the weed and you just like a dude that like it's seen some s*** like even 13 wasn't mean or anything like that was a nice guy but he just come on what what's up man everything cool you guys cool yeah

your house I wasted is my one of my favorite stories the way I met you is the last thing you should meet Joe I Wanna F your house you are at the door already and you were like a man I go in a pool table hey man you got to tell him every time you get onstage if you hadn't done that I don't know what the f*** I'll be doing if you know that was what happened that first night right so I tell the machine story to your podcast and you go to the best stories as one of the stories ever told you ladies and gentlemen you know when's the next week I go do my first show Thursday my you like maybe a hundred twenty people not sold out and they start seeing the machine and I go I hate this dude in the front row death squad ride-or-die death-squad covered head-to-toe goes to be good so go ahead cementum doing our weight loss challenge very very lucky I'm more lucky than anyone in the world right just I stand by luck but man the luckiest I've ever been is is making friends with the guy remember you telling me that member you coming out and saying I was I didn't want to make friends you came out with the ship we were at the ice house we're doing Dethklok Chronicles came out of the shot and a beer just got lettuce and I was like no no no that means like when we call you call us back and we want ya and you're like no one told me Joey already Tamir I'll try to be your friend when we have to tell you that I want I don't want to throw anybody under the bus as I explained this I'm going to be very careful you had been friends with a tyrant like you and I try to tell you what to do or f****** scream at you or belittle you we actually like you we're going to bust your balls but we must everyone bus everyone's balls the fun that is the ice house and I said I'm good and I hung up bright and then Tommy call me back in time to go see him and you got to let us try to be your friend f******, the Icehouse just come the f****** ice house and I went and then I heard you

hanging out on the top of a hat like when I lived in Newton we lived on this really Steep Street and there was a part of like above my parents bedroom where you could stand on the roof so you can go out to the back you climb up a ladder tree stand the roof and me and my friend Jeju it we were so I was John Jay Jay's Brother Jay was my friend to my sister watch Cars slide down this Frozen Street and slamming the curbs every car that went down the street was f***** because they didn't know that was all black guys the whole street with black eyes and we sat on the roof and it was not a goddamn thing we could do no not black guys black Jesus Christ just watching white people can't do much better. Got some winter weather black ice I'm sorry I probably we've had a lot of weed and pot and alcohol I probably didn't learn my words like two cars in a row have come down this hill and they're bouncing off the curb until the cops came down the hill and they f*** about something the same thing happened like we know better we know better we going to come down to drive is good for you I think it's spending my high school years in Massachusetts was really important it's really important to shovel snow like that was one of the ways we made money like you got pumped when it snowed out because you could charge people see we go to this lady's house and you know you knew she could shovel this f****** long-ass drive way he's making negotiation like when I'm looking at it I'll try to figure out what I would love to hear my daughter's price point on that some people great some people are really generous even Q-tip you know they pay you like you maybe $100 to do a whole long-ass Drive I put probably would take you all day when someone has one of these m************ that goes up to their house and you go to and it's like two feet of snow you don't even realize how much work that is in a f****** Idaho right and I are low on oxygen I'm we've been riding snowmobiles drinking beers all the way up to this year and I get there in the whole f****** deck is covered there's a fire pit I'm so excited Florida can I go imma Shuffle the deck and everyone's like I've been so excited about shoveling snow my whole life I've never done it I don't know I'm good I'm good I'm good I've been so excited about shoveling snow my whole life right I've never done it sucks dick

another Herschel Walker story and he actually got jacked from doing push-ups and sit-ups and stuff in between commercials of shows you would watch know I love I love nothing more than a punishment challenge like a putative like we were doing that won the road I was like what was Marky Mark in doctor Wahlberg doctor better than. Terrazas definitely like he's nothing but in my newsfeed I don't know like a PR campaign f****** ever movies ever movies illegally legitimately has a lot of great movies but like as a human being like when you look at like his dedication to Fitness protester I say hi you know I got a hug from Jeremy Renner I was very excited really never met him he came over give him a big hug like he seems like a really cool guy he's really cool he's really cool but if you look at his workouts mean that that guy goes after it you don't get built like that I don't care what you're taking you don't get built like that lets you work hard Iran testosterone replacement that's wonderful I'm sure that helps it definitely helps but you don't get built like that unless you're working out hard Dr.Oz and actually doing it better and that he has his elbows closer to his body follow me here like your hands in front of you and this and this is a motion for shoulders this is elbow out it's a different thing and maybe it might be better to do it the way Mark Wahlberg is where you're not going up all the way oh I'm sorry I got them confused Dr.Oz is closer to us music is Doctor Oz has why did I think that this is strong weed strategy here's the problem with like I love Mark Wahlberg I love him on this podcast but he's he's not he's not on the table the way he would be without cameras I love him on this podcast but he's he's not he's not on the table the way you would be without cameras

scale on scale let's go at the end of September like on the street 2 pack abs wearing right now what are you wearing today was to 232 what are you at around between 235 and 238 I rather push up my special February 7th 4th show show and yeah you have to wait / 250 each. You underway in the movie pretty boys are 475 and I weigh in together him on my back underwear for guy who works out so you got to get off first. You're going to get off for I give you up to date on our way. What is it would like on it is this the best shape you've ever been in as a grown up this time. this time. You were better shape when you're younger f****** Joe Rogan headshot on the counter wall he's 140 lb weakling

so why we should tell everybody what we learned today I'm revising my thinking about this virus because of Michael Yo Michael Yo caught it as healthy as f*** he's he's not he's not in a high-risk group like he's not he doesn't have any pre-existing conditions he's in shape and he got it and he got pneumonia too and he said it was a double combination and he thought he was going to die and he was in the hospital for over a and 4 days ago he said he thought he was going to die that's f****** terrifying cuz Michael Yo is healthy he's not some eighty-year-old man I talked to my friend dr. Peter attia he's a physician and he gets into the swim from Maui yes others Get Wrecked and he said I still think most people blow 55 sale through it I've had two patients get it shity cold and loss of a sense of smell and taste would probably return soon but still a small fraction of these folks get hurt I know it. Taking care of a 28 year old fitness instructor on a ventilator in New York City today why you said maybe some genetic predisposition we know blood types matters a is the worst Bo is best based on antibodies he said I'm O+ he said but I don't think that explains more than some of it maybe s*** like vaping he said still too soon to tell he is a straight-up no-nonsense no bulshit guy and I listen to everything he says so when guys like him are concerned concerned and he's concerned he's weird is he's nothing but he said it's weird that it seems that people spend more time with this get it worse is like it's not like you don't like like doctors and hospitals with prolonged exposure to get it really bad nurses in the hospital with prolonged exposure seem to get it really bad where some people get it and they don't get it bad it's weird it's a very very strange disease according to doctors and I think we're still trying to figure this out you know it's just wow it's it's one of those things where everyone sort of absorbing the information as it comes in and you got to be open to adjusting your opinions my opinions were I really was concerned with old people and I was concerned with sick people now after Michael yeah okay this is not that straightforward there might be some some other crazy factors here is like for some people yeah like Idris Elba who looks fantastic you know fine but maybe other people are going to have a real hard time with it like Michael Yo Sky that's Pokemon I mean your podcast with the foster home chicken little chicken little that scared the f*** out of me and let's go to bed that f****** podcast crazyman osterholm is he predicted this s*** literally specifically as to where was going to come from he was very inside the drink a lot the smoke overweight the drink a lot the smoke who's my one from take care of himself the worst it's you is me

faucet light quickly flip through it and then and then watch big cats big cat or a catkin amazing to I've ever seen it's about people who own big cats like tigers and but the whole thing is about about petting Cubs Cub petting so these guys make a living off Cub petting so they bring the Cubs on her one stop and then what happens is the Cubs grow up and then they end up with big f****** cats and it is I won't talk to you about it I'll let you watch it and enjoy it with someone who's like once you seen it there's no reason for me to tell you about it do you got to watch it right it is 187 cats on us Oklahoma property oh my God it is for when you watch it and then you can. just started eating part of you and you like I still got a leg I get this part of my foot the one guy found a job off Craigslist you like I have never seen anything like this to sign up like no matter what it is dude they both roppel that's not the crazy one The Crazy Ones the guy that lives in South Carolina this guy f****** Nine Lives who he Grooms so this is like everyone we talked through whatever that the end credits I put like all the stuff Tyler Perry party cake I put the I put in the credits I put like her test my Dad howling like an owl and and then big cats comes on Big King what's it called with in 15 seconds Jordan Tyler like alright everyone's up where we found our show people that want to keep those animals as pets like there's is Russian dude I think who has a polar bear and he swims with the polar bear have you ever seen a No-No No-No with a polar bear he's like hanging out with it like what in the f*** are you doing that you don't identify with that little bit cuz I do I definitely do with big dogs but I think it's cool you know to watch cuz it's not killing him you know it's like looking it's hugging and kissing him because if you keep Bears really well fed they don't did not just Predators they're omnivores right so you keep Bears really well-fed they're probably pretty chill and I wonder if bears are like people like I think if you feed people only vegetables I really believe that they probably get less aggressive cuz I think your body probably doesn't think you need to be chasing things and killing things because you're not eating animal protein everybody's like just relax and world's pick berries and eat grasses and stuff you know what I think if you do the same thing to a bear maybe you just gave the Baylor apple pies and a lot of people that like don't they don't train their dogs well and their dogs like really aggressive and they they jump up on people you know imagine it was a bear that did that responsibility what it is the animal that it is ridiculous that in your backyard backyard Oklahoma

Dogo Argentino and the guy was like right before I bought it he was like hanging up his dog in bed with you and I go yeah of course because I'm not selling it to you and hung up on me like like bullmastiffs but pitbulls on steroids tells you know I'm running this house b**** yeah it's leaving this bed with a f*** you get too comfortable my house 200lb murderous doggone to f*** your wife looking dog looks like Pennywise it looks like I got bills on that thing Jesus Christ a hundred 30 lb female dog try to grab onto any part of that going to stop it from killing you your house like you got to really be on top of things yeah those are good f*** it all look at the f****** muscles in the chapter that thing come on man that's just too weird and I feel like we have a dog like that also it's like you have this obligation to work that m*********** out everyday everyday that isn't that you have a super athlete you just can't have that thing into your yard being bored like that's a different kind of dog that's why that's why he was in bed with you I was like Station train them well from the time they're really young or your get one that's trained but even then when I've heard about like Belgian Malinois so particular like you got to be the boss like that thing is to respect your is that what is that what I've got he didn't feel a little bit decided Brandon was the boss leave this big motherfuker with the deep voice he now he's six foot five or whatever it is love you this big motherfuker with a deep voice he now he's six foot five or whatever it is

Joker when the old set it'll probably retired now that we're awful at least a week's man when I mean that it's probably going to be several months before easily could be longer it could be you know maybe they find medication that even though there's not a vaccine there's some hope for a few different kinds of medication one of them is malaria drug and there's enough one that shows promise is well and they think that it might be possible that people could catch this and you'd give them to medication it would wipe it out there's also there was some speculation about Tamiflu but I don't think there's any conclusive evidence that shows a Tamiflu helps it but there is some these antimalarial medications I think that they think has promised but what concerns me is it seems to be so different with different people that's what's weird about this makes it now for everybody's the unknown like we're in the unknown like now we've never been in this situation before as a culture we're at we're on lockdown in the whole world scared of a disease not not in our lifetimes mean not since like the Spanish flu and back then there wasn't as much Transportation there wasn't as much distribution of information to people probably wanted as we're as we are now you know of all the various cases all around them all the time cuz you know we're here in about cases and Italy and f****** Australia everywhere we're hearing about cases all over the planet I think that was the case back during the Spanish food days I think it's probably harder to understand what was happening right because you probably only got the newspaper in the radio back that and everybody has those are the masters of information whatever they said that was it but now you get all sorts of conflicting information from nothing and then I've read doctors that were terrified is like whoa nuts and then you know you look at I don't know if you've been paying attention to what these Senators did but there's some Senators they had a behind-closed-doors meeting about the coronavirus in China and what it means United States and you know the various impact and they went out sold their stock and mediately they were talking about how under control the government had it and how we're prepared and how it's going to be fine meanwhile they knew they knew so they had to face is that a public face that they're given to us to try to keep us calm and then they had a private face which realized the stock market was going to take a huge loss and so they sold everything and made amends profits based on the information that they found out he's closed-door meetings about the coronavirus how are they supposed to hit that legal to do how does that work do you understand how that works I'll give you have allowed you to make money wasn't that like whatever was trying to do like if you like what is the point of playing the stock market if you don't know things and if you do know things would you no more because you know the guy was the president tells you something about something to do and you're not supposed to trade then because of that information like alright okay I'm sure there's a logic to it I'm a moron don't run it by me but if that's what is it with the Senators do if they knew that the coronavirus is economy if they knew that it was coming down like a f****** storm of hail that no one could stop if they knew and then they bailed out and made amends profits that seem so shady to seem so shady that they didn't advise people you're supposed to be a leader right if you're in a position of an elected representative you're supposed to be acting in the position of a leader and if you are way to lead is tell people one thing with act in a completely different direction tell people everything's going to be fine but then start selling your stock at a profit and you don't tell other people to do it because you're worried the Navy that information is going to cause some ripple effect is going to destroy the economy even before the coronavirus hits just had a panic and fear in people going to act wrong but you acted in a different way than the way you were talking you acted like this s*** was going to be real you act like there's going to be a real problem and then the questions like how much of a problem did they think it was going to be maybe they dumped the stock that I was going to be a little problem would that be okay nobody but they found I was going to be a huge problem and it's not well that seems weird to me too like I don't know what should the rules be with information in the stock market stock market is gross like the whole thing's gross like what do we base our economy on this f****** Madness the stock markets crashed in a way that was you're going like it's based on I know that it's for commercial businesses their loans going to come up and it's going to be tough for them but at some point you're like I wish you could just put it on freeze and go hey let's come back in like 2 months let's start where we were let's make sure everyone was fed like that's the ultimate real because if it supposed to be about confidence and things rising and falling this is like the ultimate expression of that there's no confidence you can't work like crazy and there's so many industries that are happening and it's only jobs and unemployment the lowest rate is haven't been ever in history people then all the sudden it's not anymore or course is going to crash so it's going to crash this is the crash this is the big one is the big one of our lifetime maybe the biggest one ever because she could go on for a long ass time this is scary to could you think of all those people just like who are paycheck-to-paycheck you know with waiting tables or teaching a spin class or whatever it is that's where my brain goes like yeah that does let me know that's all I do all day to spend like McDonald's or like say there's a way to buy a bunch of Happy Meals I can send you a neighborhood you can do that with certain restaurants you can support restaurants with buffet restaurants in Vegas guytanno's is in Henderson and Eastman Calabasas we should go to him way back in the day but they are they're doing a lot of takeout and then they're also raising money for their employers which is very nice and I think the store doing something like that we're all going to donate for the waitstaff you know cuz the wait staff is completely shut out of locked and they were doing you no good business down there and tell those folks I'm sure they have bills like serious f****** bills and it's just piling up and there's no business you know I mean they went from having a great place we can go and you can count on x amount of money per week to all sudden gone and no one saw coming that's never happened ever you can't blame them for not being prepared but you know they're part of our comedy family man we got to we got to take care of them but at the store we should set up something for the Improv too and we should also you know just figure out a way to you know it's like find out who's hurting like who's in trouble because specially in our community a Comics that we know little people do proud because there's a lot of comics in our community we are Headliners with you and making you know x amount per week and you know you got to pay your own flight and all that jazz you getting by but you not killing it and then you have you probably have a f****** apartment across two grand a month or more you know I mean New York City those guys just f****** apartments in New York City are ridiculous

think about the news cycle is waiting for Hope like waiting for like to get online and get excited go breakthrough today or goddamn sideways that's when you need a really good leader you really do you need someone who is honest when all the b******* goes away when everyone's worried about it and an invisible monster that wants to kill your grandma wants a sneak into her lungs and shut them down when it when people worried about that kind of s*** you really want someone who has their character in order you know on this is this is one of things that we should really take deeply into consideration when we talked about someone being a president or any any politician anyone who's the leader how are they going to react when s*** goes sideways how are they going to keep it together are they going to make you feel good about this the reality of this world or they going to just freak bulshit are they going to make you feel less connected to it because you know that their words are not honest and they're not accurate are not the not heartfelt it's just spitting out b******* and you like f*** this goddamn car is going sideways down the highway and no one knows what to do for the Rock but no one should be president skit with the rock could like what you need is a figurehead to let you know how today is going to work out at spoke you said those inspirational speeches mean a lot yeah just like guys big daddy legs Hey listen to 40% of the people start hating it we love it or they start digging into his past love to know what's in the Rock fast and then a tribute to his decisions what the economy's doing and what this is doing in that I like that why would he do that they're just be me and talk about the me as it doesn't read just do this you guys got biceps a bunch of mean s*** to him and then a tribute to his decisions what the economy's doing and what this is doing in that I like that why would he do that

when you're done in the comic book 205 exactly what you get down to in sober October you posted 194 make sure you weigh in and you just lean on me.... haha what is it because it's not really oh my God 237

we have such a complicated relationship but we need one you know to have some guys dealing with a bunch of Maniacs like day and day out every week coming in and telling jokes and getting drunk and smoking weed in the green room and all the chaos to come Central to the art for distance of the comedy club yes I do see a change the business model like in the next decade of the beautiful things about the comedy clubs though is that we all use them like even if you're doing Arenas like you use comedy clubs used, comes to exercise like Chappelle comes in all the time does the belly room at the 70-seat room controls on in and be happy a lot of the Vets attack the as they call him Instagram comedians or the Vine Vine anymore because they get mad at him because the club will book them and they'll go well true most of them it's not the greatest performance cuz they haven't had the chops yet yeah but they sold 300 paid to and everybody ate and drank what do you think is keeping the lights on for your 30% selling capacity ass to come back in next year and the next year to go from 30% sold to 40% so then I make more money off of you but if these IG comedians can come in and at least help keep the lights on I think in the greater in the greater scheme of Comedy there's more good than bad real compliment and I also feel like this level of ignoring the two they've been able to use to get an audience in lieu of the fact that they don't put new stand-up on TV anymore unless it's contest yet Comedy Central just started with the live at The Cellar s*** but other than that I mean it hasn't been a lot but no one's even watching TV anymore I mean the numbers on regular TV programs are so low now I'll give you doing a set on Conan like what is it did we went over this right like the numbers are like less than 400,000 people watch it a night that's why that might be laughed 3MB just lying there might be live plus DVR on crazy so no one's watching anything anymore if you can get onto a state or the way I feel about Instagram comedians are YouTube comedians as if you're doing stand-up you're a comic you might be a shity comic and you might have be a famous shity comic with your famous from Vine or whatever the f*** is your comic like it's whether or not you decide to become a real comic and actually do the work and put in the time and then one day be I hope we see these YouTube comics and they're f****** terrible and then you go to see him seven eight years later and then murdering their crushing we need more to do open mics at open-mic once a month that takes that most people don't like Asian where the old head like when they didn't suffer the way I suffered there for your success is invalid I don't take that I don't do it the way I did it the only way to do it the game with balls to ask the point of access it's like it's like comedy is like to me it's like a f****** grocery store and you've been in line even in the checkout line at the new checkout line opens and then all these f****** just cruise through that check out and you still stuck in the same waiting to get a Tonight Show set line in the Instagram Line opens and people just start whisking through to success and you don't know whether or not to change line to stay in this one but that you can't like it you should think about that the same way you think about someone having success in same field that has nothing to do with yours like if someone is a Nobel prize-winning scientist like f*** I could have done that but you didn't really the same thing but some people are like that some people see someone would like a start-up internet start over to make a billion dollars and they get angry they get angry but don't worry about what other people are doing a giant waste of your energy Rebel Without a crew think it's a I think Rich Rodriguez think is think is his name and he was a filmmaking he made the I can't remember the name of the movie producer prequel to what became Desperado activity for like $55,000 fifty or sixty thousand dollars to put Paranormal Activity was dirt cheap they shot the first saw for $1000000 in 30 days in one building every every scene in the car is shaking the f****** camera and jump cutting billion dollar franchise getting rebooted now like that like what I see s*** like that I don't get jealous billion dollar franchise getting rebooted now like that like what I see s*** like that I don't get jealous I know what f*** I need to go and putting gorilla some s*** together so that's why I started trying to learn right video editing audio editing all that s*** man

someone that wants to do p*** you coming off better just setting up your webcam like Joe Rogan yeah J1 podcast you and Brian with a laptop in the microphone and just turn the webcam on and just doing whatever the f*** you want to do with yourself been dealing with the industry p*** who is jerked off the all of it no way anyone at all but yet they keep making newborn it's like it's crazy like there's no demand like there's no demand for new stuff is plenty like you would have to be some kind of crazy creep to listen to every point that have ever is ever existed it sucks. I think though the cam thing is the big thing girls f*** on camera you know they'll don't have the boyfriend come over and I'll f*** and suck his dick on camera and you pay to watch I think that's that's the big thing and they do private shows and like the guy could tell you know you can tell the girl hey I want you to do this to him and they'll do it on camera do you know that range you know the funniest so Steve Byrne and I we were in Pittsburgh three things lead to another and we end up at a strip club and it's a weekend until a pair I didn't know this but p*** stars tour strip clubs and they'll go to the strip club on the weekend and dance and sell whatever pocket p**** or whatever vagina mole they have and all of the strippers tip money to tip the pornstar that they came to see so it's like being a season comic and then the Instagram comic comes in who's never strip before like yeah you f****** camera but it's not stripping what I do as an art what you do is s***** behave cuz you look like there's like a beef between like strippers and prostitutes cuz like some strippers are sucking f****** the back of the club and it sucks up money for the rest of the strippers right that are playing the game straight up tension in the strip club all the pawn shop is on stage and I couldn't stop laughing stripping to me it's performance it's in a weird way it's the comedy strip and it's damaged people entertaining strangers so there's more of a Synergy so I don't really get anything out of watching the strippers in the back of my head I know you're thinking about groceries and some other s*** but it was hilarious as a comic to watch to do same but different type of a sector magician versus the stand-up versus the jugular and how they all kind of don't really like one another for one reason or another because they all think what they do is superlative to the other guys craft and it was it was goddamn it was f****** hilarious there's a there's a couple of strip clubs and I used to go to in Birmingham player like you know the Club close at 2 and police would leave and then at 3 the club reopen and then it was open season in as whatever you want to do and then you would see strippers in the parking lot yelling at the other strippers who are choosing to stay for the 3 a.m. session saying that y'all are messing it up and that's why nobody comes before 2 is because of what you're doing and so it's just brothel yeah yeah hilarious that you can f*** anybody you want for free and there's not a law about it but as soon as money gets exchanged you're a criminal and everybody's mad at you if you just a s*** no one had so many guys that cannot get laid but it got some money if they find out they can pay for it I give up. You can't you can't pay for it you pay for everything everything else is legal you can pay for except sex you can pay to have someone cook for you you can pay to have someone rub your back you can pay to have someone cut your hair you can pay down some ammo you want you can pay to have someone take out your trash you pay to have someone clean your house all things you don't want to do you can't pay for someone to suck your dick you can't do it for free if they like you there's no problem games for college tuition if you made a deal or do you suck my dick and I'll give you a house people go hey you can't do that that's prostitution that we don't want to do but we do it for money everything's fine there's no issue even think free money everything's fine there's no issue even think you know I grew up doing terrible construction jobs I've never want to do you know might be better suck a dude's dick for a thousand bucks to know drywall cement bags all day for $400 for a whole week

isn't it also partly because the discussion is out there and the discussion is a very attractive the discussion of one of the reasons why you haven't gotten by in this world is because of inequality and because of some sort of systemic racism systemic sexism or systemic homophobia transphobia and it becomes when you give people an option to find an excuse they gravitate towards all these pieces are in place as much as many many moving parts right and I think all these little pieces are in place where we also have these massive Echo Chambers because of social media we have these people that you know they find ideologically similar human beings and they bounce off of each other friend somebody who's indeterminate between male and female physiological so okay let's imagine that they have karyotype XY profile and that the developmental process did not produce an ambiguous genitalia okay is that a hermaphrodite pretty terrific and I look at all the forms it's a male female and I just you know my heart sinks like we're not even in trans here we're talking about somebody whose biological card that they were Del could have been you could have been me and through no no choices at all this person is being shoehorned into a paradigm which puts them in an increased risk of suicide and it breaks my heart we should change it we should break the male-female dichotomy absolutely now I have a different feeling about trans but if we solve the issue of intersex which is not pressuring just accepting that some tiny percentage of the population which is not vanishingly small just large is neither mostly male and female terms of genotype phenotype concordance we will do most of the work necessary to take care of our trans folks were suffering to might not trans is a much more Rich world because they're a million different issues taking place in trans and they're all conflated no part of it because of Developmental biology part of it because gender really in some sense is socially constructed in a way that like when people say mathematics is socially constructed I have to reject it you don't give this example of like jolts and lungis from Scotland and India are skirts but they're not female in those places so you have to learn about male and female relative to the codification in your Society in the issues of water are what are obligations to recognize hey this is really a female mind in a male body versus this is a regular mind in a regular body but needs instruction all these things are conflated and I was really hoping that we if you know if we used intersects at the test case to break the the the binary because the binary is an impression there's no question in my mind about it was it an impression because it was imagine that I say I have persistent mullerian duct syndrome so I'm phenotypically on the outside male and I go to my doctor and says hey you got a uterus what is okay that's an exotic situation maybe I want to identify male dinner because the outside equipment looks male it's a it's a it's a weird situation maybe the idea of it as being a present for a friend of mine who is in either situation yet oppressive like what is it oppressive if people are just recognized like most people recognize as being able to walk there is no category called disabled in a wheelchair sounds like to me like it's one thing to recognize that not everybody is in the standard category but it's another thing to hard-code like hard-code where you talking about job or female other or prefer not to say we have to let me Define lotion or female emotionally emotionally I think this is oppression oppression yeah I'm at the interests of defining people simply because for the most part yet dealing with males and females and it's for the most part they're just trying to figure out what's what for their statistical but you know this is fun I'm glad you're asking me these questions because you have to be on the other side of this issue and this is really where my heart is I care about these people and I know that in every single conservative Society in the world there are accommodations made for the failure of simple binaries to accommodate the population there's no Society this we have to recognize that every single population produces gender sexual ambiguity but isn't that also to get around the idea of homosexuality being a grievous crime cuz like I believe in Iran it's illegal to have homosexual activity but you can have gender reassignment so if your a game and you can choose to become a female that's true but there's also a thriving Gacy Tehran you know do they have to recognize and they're all sorts of music you know that there was a situation in India where I'm going to have more experience where you would sell those two people are confirmed Bachelors now that they're so dedicated to their professions that there's no room for family and they live together right so like traditional societies have everybody accommodates homosexuality and failures of simple gender binaries and do I always bring up the example of Turkish lira Turkish doesn't hard-code the third person singular pronoun as male or female it just has one pronoun for both so thank you for giving me the opportunity to know where my heart actually has been this entire time which is I believe this is impressive and I don't think that expresses that many people but I believe that it's an important oppression that we have to realize that we hard-coated in that ice was generated a lot of the feeling before we get to trans you can simply say from the position of intersex that the world is a richer place than male and female people so it took 6 versus XYZ for the most part for the most part it is so try to deal with but that is important to me like people who are outside of the Norms I think it probably a larger percentage of those people are going to be more interesting people because they're forged in the fire so it's not just a case that you know do you want to chase a couple of edge cases everybody was a really different experience is more important to me than everyone with the standard experience I think we have to keep take care of the standard case but I'm absolutely interested in outliers and edge cases so it's not just a case that you know do you want to chase a couple of edge cases everybody was a really different experience is more important to me than everyone with the standard experience I think we have to keep take care of the standard case but I'm absolutely interested in outliers and edge cases

I think our problem in this country there's this many problems with one of our problems is the loudest voices on the fringes and this is one of the things that I want to discuss with you is what's going on in Portland and I think what's going on in Portland is the loudest voices on the fringes that the people on the right and on the far right and recognizes recognizing as emblematic of the left they think it defines the left and I don't think it does I think it is it's a symptom of its it's a symptom of first of all terrible government of of of someone who's allowing this to flourish inside of the mayor of Portland who seems to be supporting this in some sort of a weird way and and ideologically believes that antifa just because of a name stands for anti-fascist if you had no name which you would have is a bunch of Hood wearing mask wearing violent thugs were eating people who disagree with them and cuz that's what we saw with that Andy how do you say his name go is it Higgins ending no no and it's angio is silent until somebody what you saw from that video yet anyone could support that of with a person who's just talking they didn't mean what I've seen of him but they've tried to describe that he supports neo-nazis that he supports the proud boys I've seen none of this do you know evidence to this but I've seen the narrative try it out over and over again as a justification for violence against him when the left supports bullying in the worst possible form be ganging up on someone punching them hitting them with the sticks crowbars all this crazy s*** thinking that it's okay to throw milkshakes at people thinking this is fine this is nothing if you think this is a horrible precedent to set and it's a terrible it's the terrible move if you're playing a game it's a terrible first move because things only escalate they don't DS but no one says wow you beat the s*** out of andino's and Mysteries right like what the hell is going on what the hell do you allowing people to wear masks and carry backpacks with weapons and there's a natural human inclination when someone gets hit to jump in and hit him too so if you see it all the time watch Worldstar go to worldstarhiphop.com and watch someone gets hit a bunch of people just jump in and hit them it happens at trucks Austin f****** high schools it happens people get brain damage people die each other all the time people who get permanent injury when you're seeing in Portland there was one of them where an old guy got hit in the head with a f****** crowbar for a some math kid because the old guy apparently disagreed with a all disagree on things I don't someone's decide guesses at the old guy is not exactly is portrayed I would leave that the old guy may have been there with a telescoping baton know that he was hitting people we will take this I think this is so worthwhile but like a let's do it right okay because I think this is so mysterious what the hell people doing supporting Andino being beaten up on video so it stay stay with him because that's the the best clearest example of someone who's a tiny little gay man he's tiny mean he represents so many different maligned populations right sectional Publican I thought he was left-of-center I've been told I'm a f****** alt right guy glad it's very confusing all right he's also diminutive in physical form as he's not he's not threatening physically right and they've chosen this guy as an example and one of the more disturbing things are how many people saw the video and we're justifying it saying things like get another hobby these and the Ant fascist will not stand for you know your your your bigotry in your hate like what are you talkin to you think it's okay to punch this guy like the fact that you guys all piled on and punched him in there I've been thinking a lot about it I have a model I'm happy to hear yours because there is a mystery we both agree to beat the beginning that you would imagine that that video would have shocked people into flying so many people sort of excusing it is really shocking well it ain't given that he's also clearly intersection you wouldn't predict this from first principles know you wouldn't do it looked at it on paper you definitely would especially if you allowed him to self-identify as left-of-center okay so here's how I think the model goes unless you want to give yours first the first thing we have to understand is that there's a Division I want to live this at Super carefully the first division is between the what you're calling the loudest voices and I'm going to call the most courageous the most willing to accept loss the voice is most willing to accept loss most of the left does not want to be dragged to the extreme left to hear this thing that why are you focusing on a fringe and the answer is because The Fringe is running the show in my pants what do you mean by willing to accept loss if you go in antifa vs. proud boys melee you're willing your ear you accept that your may get clock with a bike lock. I don't think that'll wreck on I don't think that's correct I think you're dealing with people that have no concept of real violence no experience of real loud if you seen yes there have you seen the image of the guy who looks like he's never worked a day in his f****** life looks like he's never been outside and I think these people are playing a shocking game you are willing so you think you're going to get into a Wylie Coyote versus the Roadrunner kind of a thing we're both of them always survive to the next cartoon oh how anyone's willing to do that but they're willing to do that and they're willing to do that because they're delusional delusion boarded and they're delusional perspective by the giant numbers of them they all had to get and then to wear masks which further emphasizes this illusion at their Bartow game assume that you are not even in a physical situation you're willing to be very loud on social media about very simplistic perspectives yes and you're willing to become a pariah at some level because are you though I think mostly your supported do I need are more support I'm not necessarily your going to trigger so many times on this explanation that I probably just need a little place in the table to start building this up and then you can tear the hell okay the first believe it is at the belief that I have is at the fringes are much more running the show then the people who claim that this is a small number of people believe that the fringes are scary going to go places the rest of us aren't I agree with you on both sides left and right so I spend a lot of time focused on the fringes because the fringes become terrifying and the middle is become cowardly the whole principle of that the whole idea will you thing was about creating a non cowardly for the could actually potentially hold the center because people are actually fairly courageous you would have to say my brother is fairly courageous Ben Shapiro Andino Sam Harris these are people that stood up to death threats you know I have a guy is threatening me everyday of my life in a coming through the internet in my family you have to have some courage in order to be part of this thing and that's part of my irritation when people come after it so there is a cowardly Center in a very terrifying Fringe in the fridge is going around the whole thing left and right the next thing is that people are secretly weirdly sympathetic but they're violent the violent Fringe to their extreme rather than making common cause across the center so for example you imagine that you run a laundromat and you're being visited by a member of organized crime every week they comes into the laundromat and he kind of plays with your stuff and he says I would be if anything happened your business and shakes you down there say oh you know I noticed that you have a daughter I would love to date her breath will go out sometime you hate this guy then some sort of Vineland Village vigilante element its operating extrajudicial e after you've gone to the police over and over again break this guy's knee caps you're weirdly sympathetic with the Vigilante because you're being terrified by a group that is not being taken care of I think that this is in part why some elements of the left there should be more responsible to have institutional positions that have platforms that they can broadcast a weirdly sympathetic to antifa and why Country Club Republicans are weirdly sympathetic to some of these far-right groups is that they view them as this is the dangerous group that's kind of taken care of the problem that I can't stand up to so you bizarre cowardly sympathy from the center who won't actually stand up and say I have more in common with a country club Republican like in my case I feel myself as a progressive released a liberal I have more in common with a country-club republican than somebody who's got a bike lock who's looking for trouble in a street demonstration trying to smash up a Starbucks right I don't want the help from my left the group that wants to play this out using the sort of proxy groups to handle the problems saying look we're going to we're going to sound an air horn before one of these things so that all reasonable people can get the hell out of the way and if you don't respond then your collateral damage and that's on you that's how they see this I think that's another words I think Andino is the guy doesn't listen to the air horn Bret Weinstein doesn't listen to the air horn Peterson Sam Harris don't listen to the air horn not that I didn't does very accurate description of these Fringe people doing the work of the people that are more reasonable but are happy to have these bad people do do their work to fight this battle for them because they think that ultimately it's for good yeah I need my organized crime group to get rid of your organize yes right so the idea that the Law and Order people like I know you don't want anybody nicecream group and I'm going to actually stand up to the Mob and I'm actually not going to pay you your goddamn protection money because I'm in a laundromat in this is the United States of American f*** off that's that's the view that I represent I don't want thank you Auntie if I don't need your help yeah you know what I actually a much more afraid of the far-right in the reason I concentrate my negative energy on the far left is what he trying to do trying to get the genie out of the bottle on the far right that is the danger that you want to see more tiki torches it's not tiki torches that you need to worry about its armed people who come and they not that I bring him by Chloe pushing ordinary human beings to the extremes yeah right and the thing that I get is that like I believe that the Republican party and I just I never got a chance to say the stuff I have never gotten along with Republican party I just don't like it if you would hit the thing that wants to exclude me from the country clubs I have an older model the group that wanted to put in condo developments in Yosemite Valley because they couldn't figure out why we would want to preserve the national parks they're the ones that laughed about the clubbing the baby seals hahaha these people emotional Cadence and we always had this thing where the Democrats will we have most of the smart people in a tiny fraction of time we have seen this giant evapo live intelligence if not actually threw a lack of Courage the people who represent responsible left-wing thinking who believed in structural oppression but don't believe in the extent claimed you know who want to keep making progress who want to make sure that traditionally marginalized groups are taken care of that we take our responsibilities but not our guilt as the reason for trying to make a better world the believe in structural oppression but don't believe in the extent claimed you know who want to keep making progress who want to make sure that traditionally marginalized groups are taken care of that we take our responsibilities but not our guilt as the reason for trying to make a better world

that's a dirty little secret. This is one of the things that bothers me so much about you being so misrepresented when I read things about you with there was a the article that we're just talking about the alt-right sage without the rage they called you and you're not even remotely alt-right in fact you were deleting Target of anti-Semitic abused for all of 2016 where you legitimately battling the alt-right talking about how evil I think their ideology is how evil I think white supremacy is meant personal like people, cuz typically not the favorites of the alt right and then beyond that I mean I think their ideology is legitimately a devastatingly awful Twist on what western civilization is supposed to be reviewed my new book and my new book has several sections and they're dedicated and then the interview they did with me about alt right stuff at all but they just assume I'm on the fence right that must mean that I'm all right it's like no you stupid that you're spouting at you thought these things I've been doing this for legitimately more than half my life I'm 35 and I start around 17 and I started writing a syndicated column at that point and winter 17 you think a lot of dumb stuff and then surely get older and you educate yourself and you spend a lot of time reading a lot of time studying hopefully you have some cogent arguments after 20 years of doing anything but it did the demonization is pretty astonishing knew we had Anton Andrew Yang he's the only Democratic candidate has agreed to go on but I do we did a full hour on Ubi a perfectly nice it was perfectly coherent and and and conciliatory and get people will suggest that everything I do is about destroying people on the other side because of all the Ben Shapiro destroys videos and certain groups of people were that's their stick they're like their goons right they just go after people online for attention yes this is a stick this is not you and this is what bothers me so much and I know that you said some things in the past like particular about Arabs and like when you were a younger man that you said I should have said that that's exactly right was a tweet that was part of a tweet thread which are specifically contrasting Israel and Hamas leadership and saying that the Israeli government likes to build leadership would prefer that their citizens live in sewage and bumping but that was a bad we obviously my entire history on Muslim relations is 1A I supported the ability of ilhan Omar to wear hijab on the on the floor opposed president finally proposed Muslim ban in the last three weeks I've had on Moschino eyes I've had on contact Med I had on yesterday before Muslim like he's our conversations that have to be had but to take this is one thing that bugs me so much and I actually go through all this look it up this time and look up all the things that I think I've done wrong and I apologize for something I'll say no more. I'm fine with your contacts but I hope that people try to do this is the problem you're not doing with honest people when people try to categorize you is all right or they're they're trying to put you into this category of Internet goon there quote tweet just taking some little tiny Praise You said seven years ago and trying to save this is you this is you now it's so that's such a disingenuous thing to do I hate it and I hate it across the aisle by the way you want to get rid of this person I've heard this person you're going to bring up something from 10 years ago and they're going to try and Club them into submission with it because if you actually ask them their opinion about it they might have a more nuanced view on what they said maybe they apologized and they maybe they think I don't remember saying that I felt the same way by the way I really do about about the stuff I said the same thing about the governor of Virginia who is excoriated for having this terrible racist photo on his yearbook page back in medical school in 1987 this is evidence of his career and he ended up doing what everyone now does which is you just don't apologize for anything you just trying to pass it off as a nothing is actually getting worse because are you say I apologize I was wrong and what why did you do in the first place because you're a bad person apologies are not accepted and then number two is you Brazen it out you do the Trump you know I never did anything wrong ever I've never been perfect to come around you and then nothing ever get the clan opportunity number three is Barack Obama did witches you come out preemptively and you try to remember all the bad stuff you do okay so you did cocaine when he was in high school that's that's cool what is it comes out during the campaign problem the problem is right now even if you preemptively come out and say I did something wrong like for example Liam Neeson talkin about years ago when he had a racist thought that he didn't act on us. This is now we're going to try and ruin your career for something that you admit was bad that you did 30 years ago we're going to try and run you over that if you apologize for something to eat at 30 years ago what you would have preferred I forgotten cuz his embarrassing and stupid then we say you're bad until all you're left with is like the most Shameless people in the world who are in the public space at the incentive structure is to be deeply Shameless to just stay and the culture of of going after people for things CNN finding anything to categorize them as someone who's a viable Target this is what I've seen thrust your way it's like there's nothing wrong with being conservative there's something wrong with wanting everyone to think the way you think though this is the difference like you will you wait what I like that you do is you debate your points you state your positions you have a philosophy and what I don't like is when people try to pretend that that philosophy is some some somehow hateful or somehow regressive or something that you condemn people for their thoughts you just you don't this is what I did not want to see with you I appreciate that and I appreciate the accuracy I think that's true I mean I've come out against virtually every Twitter ban including people who have personally targeted me I've come out against that have come out against virtually every what are your thoughts about this idea of deplatforming and you know this is something that we were just discussing before the podcast where the CEO of YouTube and carrots Kara Swisher they were talking about removing you from YouTube and I thought it was the CEO of YouTube it was actually Carro said I would if I could now being doxxed meaning just thinks differently from the down the line Democratic party platform you're not like them aligned with Hillary in order to make evidence-based point about discrimination and disparity and this makes him an enemy of people like Ezra Klein inbox.com say that your feet are for white supremacy right that they can't actually get you on what you say you know some members of your audience do things that that are really bad is it going dude I have 1 million two people were members of my own and have 5 million Facebook followers I've 2 million on some of those people are going to be crazy video switch what is a normal Jamie like a normal video that we get how many comments to get 10,000 pedophiles who are watching videos of children doing things and they were commenting stuff in the gymnastics commenting in the end like communicating with each other through the comments and it was sort of discovered that there was this connection that they were doing this and many many videos and YouTube rightly Panic they look really should have stopped this so the response I guess was we just have to make people responsible for their comments so is that all yeah good idea through it all right on one side of the aisle to take an example of congressional baseball shooting happened a couple of years ago guy happens to be a Bernie fan is that Bernie Sanders is false in a couple years ago guy happens to be a Bernie fan is that Bernie Sanders this fall.

the only reason why I've ever been in any movies that nobody saw it before but they like the movies that I did once I didn't need to do anything and anyone anymore in terms of acting was his movies I did two of his music zookeeper and I did here comes the boom and the only reason why I did it because I love Kevin so ridiculous man Sebastian Maniscalco condemned in all fairness some of what you see is not actually me some of it as me but there was this dude was a professional dancer who was like a stand-in who was amazing he was amazing so that the stuff worth clearly me I definitely did a lot of the stuff all the stuff with me and Leslie Bibb right holder and all that stuff that was me a hundred percent but this is so much better than me built like me and who would it was perfect until he was really good like when you see how hard it is to actually dance It Go my God like when you see a problem real professional it's one of the most dismiss things with people dude I did I did f*** Tom let me tell you something that c********* my daughter is my daughter's head my daughter's saw Tom's Video and they looked at in there like wait time can dance special but you got appreciate the fact that Tom did it and it's Steven Seagal out like if you I swear to God if you watch the video of me watching them for the first time it's a love letter to man reading a love letter from his boyfriend when Tom's made me feel very honored that you did that because I love you when he put that out made fun of it we watched it we giggled but the fact that inspired time to drop 80,000 whatever you spent a hundred thousand reply video made me so f****** excited I have no idea what time does they open bed going this how I'm getting Tommy I swear to God Sheen shirt on

free time I go into Washington DC damn every time I go into the Wegmans there's a big Washington football team Tostitos potato chips with the Washington football team name on there and and and of Native American groups tribes they've all let the team know that that that that name is offencive and they still won't change it they don't they say it's honoring it's honoring Native Americans of that term is used and you see it in historic records to count Indian skins or scallops that have been take from Indian people it it's an offencive it's not just derogatory or demeaning but it's signs of I heard that defense of the majority people are not talking to someone who's deeply ingrained in the Native American issues and culture like you are so you can explain to us that you know me to make sense you know someone somewhere and it was all based on Germans like a lot of really pissed off at that like hey you know that's kind of shity why Colin has. But it's the Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs are like what other Native American names has been a ton of them right still around I don't know the status of nem you know as far as NFL International Teams Syracuse Syracuse University had a derogatory mascot that they changed some years back because of the tribes they're there now in the state of New York fought for that turn orange orange visiting to Royals and a Ford Focus could run from the energy in the charged particles in the air what sing did like 15 miles an hour on a flat Test Track Running on are charged particles in the air has a charged particles as the entire 15 miles an hour could be a real speed wow around for the sniffing around and see this trippy scientist guy in his lab coat in this s***** little booth was like 6 by 10 ft booth and you know how to show where people like 200 by 60 foot the development for rail cars for semis for cars like an on and on and on as I get the biggest problem is stopping it once it gets going because the Troy deal structure meant that the compression cycle from you know 12 to 2 of that first cylinder was such that when the combustion occurred and it propelled the next piston into the next combustion cycle and kept going so getting that power out of the simple crank was a challenge and then how to stop the damn thing was like the bigger challenge did run on like horse piss ionic charge particles diesel gas at the spark plugs and I have to try to reach out to him website going to look at the Night Before Dawn that gobbled up 5 years later another Kick-Ass 2 a man was he a bitter man so I can never again cuz they bought it and they shelled it I'm never selling anything again f*** them I'm licensing to specific channels of application and that's it his new product so what do you think happened if your conspiracy theorist you think someone bought him out and just bought a small independent business owner real real estate deepest part of like sound like it's calling Mommy group so it's like a connection of online of all these mommies and unlike all over LA and what they do is they post people post s*** they need so like one of the moms just had two kids they don't have any wet wipes and so then all the other moms and then maybe transcend money for a second and figure out ways to set up in their Community like what do you need what do I have and then start some form of like trade or just giving people you know there was someone he set up a toilet paper Exchange old people who say they're Dickie to ship mad at you no it's not it's not good but I'm saying we can get a positive out of this through the people that make it through we can get a positive out of this in the positive is communities important to really important and it seems like it wasn't important cuz it seems like everything set up so you didn't have to engage with people it's not the right way to do it it's not good for anybody now that kind of life is not good in the Detachment that we had me that's why why do you think people have road rage on the highway you know when they are blocked in a little box separated from people in a way that they believe but they wouldn't have it in person it was just a piece of metal and glass separating from these people visit the other added factor of the heightened senses because of driving fast. I got to make quick movements so dumb things people do for elevated and turn even the more dumb yeah because of the world the beach because the sonars messing up their ability to communicate with each other it's like there's this kind of technological sonar that is completely made of disconnected from the earth essentially like our Earth connection has been replaced by a technological connectnow technology having exactly the same thing you have witches they want to be happy you know she's feeling the connection between people when you're with someone I know I don't know if you ever done that but just like the next time you're around anybody that you're like buying ship from or that you don't normally just kind of go by feel like that cannot even feel it there's an energetic connection that you can feel their that's easy to overlook the week is another good example start Sunday in the evening and ends Friday in the afternoon and you give out hours of sleep on Wednesday that's it it's horrendous to go through and it's pretty entertaining as an instructor cuz you can totally f*** with the students cuz they're off their rocker by Tuesday afternoon but almost all of the attrition occurs from Sunday night until I'd say Tuesday morning and beyond that you're probably going to make it through cuz you've invested so much but device that I was given when I went through was don't look at hell week as a 5-day pipeline just make it to your next meal they have to feed you every 6 hours so if stack 6 hours on 6 hours and 6 hours and just focus on getting to the next meal doesn't matter how much I'm in pain doesn't matter how cold am I can just get to the next meal or get a reprieve a mental reset and I can continue on that's that in combination with some you know the mental toughness is how you approach and set your goals and then resilience in my definition of resilience would be the ability to get bent and come back stronger than you were before how you do that is by bending yourself as often as possible which you do all the time by running Sprints or you don't mean that you're doing that stuff you're mentally tough because of that and if you can apply that resilience to approaching setting an approaching your goals from digestible perspectives you can accomplish insane amount so that's really what I mean it's a physical test or just testing the mind can the individual ignore the big and focus on the small can you do the stuff that you need to do and not get overwhelmed regardless if your exhausted hungry cold and it is it's not a complex training program that there's the ocean there's the beach there's some telephone poles or some boats and then later on WE introduce scuba gear and towards the tail end of it that you know some Demolition and pistol and rifle hungry cold it is it's not a complex training program that there's the ocean there's the beach there's some telephone poles or some boats and then later on WE introduce scuba gear and towards the tail end of it that you know some Demolition and pistol and rifle

no I was listening to a podcast I didn't know that you were involved in the rescue of Jessica Lynch it was the second target that we hit and the first invasion of Iraq that's crazy it was an odd series of events you know we went over there I had just finished the selection process for the East Coast command and they actually there are the best way to describe it there are multiple squadrons inside of that command that's what they're all have the same skillset but you need multiple so want to be unemployment while another one is training and the other one is resting you want to get into a mental rotation cycle so at the end of selection acts number of people get partitioned off each one of those and it takes time to get up to speed because the selection tactics in the way that you trainer they're good but you get better as you were working with the guys have more experience specifically The Real World experience and so they pulled us out of selection about a month early and see over to augment the Karzai detail in Afghanistan at the very tail end I mean nothing happened with a skating you know you're determined to that point and it's one of the worst missions because you can't is very reactive security detail stuff you can't really do anything until somebody else does something so you already behind the power curve to my least favorite Mission said I think but we came back from that and then the until started kicking off for Iraq and they sent it over to Saudi Arabia and we were there for probably somewhere between seven to ten days that's where I watch Bush give the speech no snob Hussain has any was 24 hours to comply or turn himself in whatever it was and we had already taken a look at we knew before going over there that there were two or three objectives that we were going to look at we had already basically planned missions that we were going to do while we're in Virginia Beach we were planning for stuff and Iraq's we continue the planning in Saudi Arabia in the number one hit was the number one chembio Target in Iraq so to do that you have to get all the s*** on this is called mopp gear mission-oriented protective posture so I can chemical chembio suit gas mask which compounds a lot of stuff you have all your normal shift on anyway like those guys carrying quickie saws in a hazmat suit with a gas mask on breathing through a blower on their back over working the blower and it's amazing how close to Suffocation of actually come inside of a gas mask it's the worst feeling ever but that you're sucking so hard for hair that the math is like stink bugs you're not supposed to be physically exerting yourself while you wearing that thing there's a there's a canister on the side how much weight do you carry it around in those days was probably bodyweight + 8200 lb and it turned down after that because the actual amount of real-world experience at that time was low and a drastically increased so you like you know I think I need the pocket and then you would need it for months so I need to get rid of this goddamn pocket because it carries sweat and oh yeah there's gear that I wore towards the end was substantially different than the you that I Ward towards the beginning I trimmed I mean I think I probably had 10 magazines on me like that first started I think the last appointment they do cherry 441 in the gun and no pistol things changed over time but the ability to move cuz then I would need less food and I would need less water not actually be mobile but on this target so is it for our helicopter ride in we're sitting there we have all of our mop your own but not our masks and we're doing a mid-air Refuel on a C-130 so yet a 47cc know the big double propeller Sobe the rotor blades on top of helicopter they're hooked up next to a C-130 in-flight refueling missile goes underneath the C-130 is like see you boys later bombs out and it like the C-130 bailed when the but so you're just sitting there waiting for 3 and 1/2 you know 3 and 3/4 hours in about 10 minutes out you start getting your gas mask and stuff long to get a stuff that drape and you know night vision goggles to repair your field of view sucks Terrible's weird which is why you've noticed when people who are actually using them they will all constantly have movement in their head because they're increasing their field of view and up and down and that's when you can Orient them to a good offset to your I now imagine putting a gas mask in between your eye and the lens of the night vision goggle figure taken already limited field of view and putting it into a so distraught the first combat Target I've ever been on so and you're 18 years 2525 you still going to graduate and then you know continue on and I was in like a third or fourth 47 that went in so you finally get all of your stuff on you know you have a blower on your back so there's ways that you can help the canister if you just have the canister on your mask it's a lot like breathing through a few straws shove in your mouth if you maintain a loan of heart rate and you're totally chill you're fine but as your heart rate goes up in your demand you know for oxygen goes up your really limited so they have no you can put on your back the blower to battery power blower that will basically push air into the mask and it gives you I would say more buffer space it's like almost like a positive pressure and if you're not doing much is actually really nice it's just Jammin Eridan face and it works well unless you put your weapon swing over the top of that to which is exactly what I did it was terrible so we come in number one can buy or Target in Iraq and we had looked at it from the perspective of like air conditioning specialists and when the owl from Architects to what we could encounter on the ground Potential Threat satellite imagery of historical stuff and we get there and by the time I even got on the ground there was already a firefight going on the helicopter that I was in head 27 rounds come to the helicopter not a single person with her guys are like reaching out to like scratch their ass and like around come through and dismiss everybody Jesus Christ the door gunner standing next to me got shot right in the head in about a minute out that was my first exposure to combat just over and helicopter lands and you go and by the time I got to the front door of that structure I was probably as close to being unconscious do this fixation is I often m coming down and instantaneously we could tell that it was agricultural school like the intelligence was so horribly and Incredibly off when I came to that I just ripped my mask off at some point I would have rather died from whatever horrendous disease could have been in there then suffocate and then you know we cleared through it and I knocked my night vision goggles off with a sledgehammer and go back to the shitshow so we get back from that the next morning we wake up and remember having a cup of coffee with a buddy of mine has like a man I don't think we're going to get out of this if things keep going like they did last night and shortly after that a few days after that we got word that Jessica had been captured so we forward staged and went up to Nigeria and the information that we had going into the hospital is that it was a FedEx hotbed like 50 to 500 people was the expected amount of resistance so we can have and we can fit 27 people in the helicopter so that's what we launched in the back of our head and force me to meet any resistance inside of the structure and it actually was kind of business-as-usual looking back like there was nothing exciting about that Target whatsoever people in the modern-day if they were to action that Target now with the experience if they have that you wouldn't even register on the radar Scopes amount of the little little amount of resistance that was encountered outside of the discs would be another day at the office of that and then there was a lot of dispute about that was accurate there was a member she actually tell you cleared up a lot of it she was not responsible for a lot of the things that were said because he was deep into the repatriation process into I mean her she's f***** up to this day when I sat down I thought I could sit across the table she had never sat down and talked to somebody who was there it was when did you meet her I went out again it was one of the earlier episodes I told my side of the story and we were able to like Salem gaps and we sat across the table just like this and she still wears a brace she came and gave me a huge hug and I didn't know what to expect them to her physically but my understanding the vast majority of her injuries came from when her Humvee wrecked I do not believe she was buckled her strapped in so she got just pounded and she would not treated well you know it's guys are going to get the same mind you're going to get raped if you're a male or a female really oh yeah for sure and he captured oh yeah for sure if you're male or female you're not going to have a good go of it for sure and again I'm not an exact expert on what happened specifically with her but from my understanding she experienced that as well as medical issues but when we she was in bad shape when we pulled her out of the hospital for sure but then so then I remember there were two people with us that were carrying video cameras and there was a little bit of footage that was taken from that like when she was in the hospital bed in the hospital and a lot the rest of it was from the cameras on the helicopters and some of the sensors overhead but the narrative from that not a word was said by anybody that was there actually getting that objective or from her and I think my hypothesis is you know we were month into that wore a lot of that war was based on we need to go rid this country in this dictator of there wmds we hadn't found any from PR perspective wise it wasn't probably going as well as they wanted it to do and they wanted to have a PR Victory but this stuff that was said the stuff that made the news all this stuff that got blown out of proportion none of that came from the people that were actually there all the layers on top of it I remember I remember some of the first sports they were saying that she was going to be the first female Medal of Honor recipient that she had fought until she had her you know she expanded her last round and then was finally overtaken and you talked to her and she or she never even loaded weapon or weapons Jam Chichi never said that she fought and then I remember people talking about you never said any of that I mean it takes time understand the details of what happened she was not in a headspace to give a debrief you know she was literally being flown probably did Germany for her first round of countless surgeries and she's going to need to spend time with a therapist and a counselor I would assume she what I'm saying before but they're going to let you know they're going to do it robust medical treatment and that's really not the time to dive into the details of her exact actions and we left the next morning and flew into Baghdad like 3 days later like it was just another day on the job off and running it was cool because it was the first rescue uspw since World War II and so the rescue of her was she was rescued from the hospital and so they had abused her and then taking her to a hospital I get a little grainy on the details of what happened in between the wreck in only picked her up because there are conflicting narratives there are there are I know what the correct word would be stories or there are reports they attempted to put her into an ambulance and bring her back to US forces but at the same time the fedayeen were using ambulances is basically military fighting Vehicles so they said that when they try to do that the ambulance was shot at which makes sense if there was a a trend of people using an ambulance as a military vehicle that would make sense and they would get turned around so they might have tried to bring her back you know that hospital was being used as a setting staging point because there I mean they're not dumb people they understand we're not going to likely bomb hospitals or relay structures so use them to their military Advantage Wow Wow in this is your second your second real how crazy that mean that story was a giant story in the media about the war and people trying to sort out what was true versus what was the you know the publicity narrative I would say on average take 90% of what you that story was a giant story in the media about the war and people trying to sort out what was true versus what was the you know the publicity narrative I would say on average take 90% of what you hear off the top 90%

seems like that's one of those things are once you get through and once you get through buds once you get through hell week once you get through all the difficult physical tasks and it you actually become a seal how many people maintain that sort of Goggins Jocko level of discipline and keep training constantly and how many people do the bare minimum it's hard to say there are people who slip what are the requirements once you once you've gone through all that s*** is very few when I was in in 2013 though I left last day of June to 2013 so if it is changed since then I don't know nothing about it but you know the Navy it obviously it's a Navy SEAL to you're governed by the United States Navy they make you do a PRT of physical Readiness test which is running pull-ups push-ups sit-ups and a swim I think because we're seals and your wife could meet the standards my eleven-year-old daughter could probably meet they're not crazy I'm saying to the bar if you trip over the bar at that point like you know your hamstrings not work her it just you suck but there are varying levels there are people who are very like the individuals that you're talking about and then there are others that will let it slip and I slip a percentage Point overtime and there's some you know obese disgustingly overweight seals not many bring in between so it's hard for me to give you like exact numbers on that I would say more guys Trend towards the Jocko Goggins realm because it's a very self-critique and community in most ways it's like working inside of a piranha tank and if there's a drop of blood there just delete you now we're very hard on each other for sure how much how many of them are involved in martial arts gym hard to say because I know it has drastically changed since I was in the amount of so I was before I sat down with Henry Gracie yesterday we were just talking about a lot about his interaction with law enforcement and how they got started and it was with the Rodney King riots actually didn't know that but that's when they started interfacing with law enforcement he had his dad the generation before him they started sitting on a panel you know talking about I think it's actually combatives with the hand on hand type stuff with it yes but that's where it started it's grown since then when I went through. I don't remember much discussion of martial arts at all there was Prisoner handling or you know detaining people and cutting them to terminating point would be to get their hands behind their back and flex cuff that we didn't use metal handcuffs way to use tie ties you know just cuz that you can put a lot you can slide him in your gear and just easily snatch on them but I think that it has drastically changed I have been in and I think a lot of that that was driven by individuals I mean I'm sure you see it I mean I feel so stupid being late to the game to Jiu-Jitsu and I know that it is definitely want to say invading all of those communities but it might be a good term inspecting it's just it's there's a Groundswell from guys we're learning on their own so it's increasing but it was not prevalent when I was in unless you were an individual practitioner doing it on your own or had a buddy that would do with you I would have assumed that it would have been a core part of training like from the beginning just to build character and to understand what happens if you do lose your gun if you are in a situation where you don't have a weapon well there's not a lot of situations in real life that you can point back to from my community where that has happened and quite frankly ego gets into the way and you'll hear guys say things like well what do I need to bro I do need to go Hands-On with anybody this is what I got right here best really just ego and what ends up happening is I was talking with him about this yesterday and I have a much better understanding of it now you can elicit actions from people if you don't know what you're doing if you do have to go Hands-On and you're trying to detain somebody but you're asking about how much I weigh right I want to hear I had so I'm that usually would float somewhere between 2:05 to 2:15 when I was in so add 80 to 90 pounds on top of that and now I'm kneeling on your back understand weight distribution I don't understand leverage I don't understand the way that the joints move that well and you're trying to comply but I'm applying so much weight to you that it's forcing you towards a fight or flight situation and you can you can increase the deadly deadliness of these situations unintentionally and get yourself into a position where you might have to take somebody's life but I didn't deserve it was actually your fault because you drove them to that point because you were not judiciously applying the pressure that you needed to see that with police when you watch videos get cops trying to detain suspects and then they lose control situation and it's purely because they don't have an understanding of how to control person a running of tools I had a ton of empathy for law enforcement if you're out on the streets and you have verbal commands than a taser and maybe a pepper sprays in there somewhere I don't even know if they still use that but then your next resources at gun and you rapidly go through all those options I other situations occur and I'm not trying to justify them in any way whatsoever but I understand what happens when you reached the limits of your tools and you're left with what you think is a life-threatening situation breaking down what goes wrong with the police when they're trying to detain someone admitted often times two and three on one and they wind up getting killed there's there's videos of guys having a suspect on the ground and the suspect is not trained in martial arts but unfortunately the cops aren't either and they're doing this things in hitting this person and trying to control me then the guy gets out gets to his car pulls out a gun and kills them and I've watched a video like that recently so the guy who got me into can get to the sheriff and I actually just the only reason I started it because I wanted him to shut up I had known him for like a year so we're my house drunk downstairs at the bar and he was like you know we're standing there drinking you try to play me like a standing head and arm pretty like this is how I would choke you is like if you start right now you'll never top music for stripe white belt at the time that it will be out shortly after he got pulled into and started Jiu-Jitsu because of Buddy at his attitude in your life or death fight where I live up in Kalispell Sheriff's Department on shift and a response time of 20 to 30 minutes in possible for sure so this guy goes out he's in the fight for his life and like two feet of snow in the winter time and I think that's a f****** problem right if you need to call for backup if they have procedures like I guess if you check in and then we're certain. Of time like me don't people start moving their car on the right direction start coming to you if you don't check in a long what time you know the lights and siren come on so other people came he was okay and he just got his brown belt not too long as a Savage what at so what happened to him obviously I wasn't there but it was he pulled somebody over for a particular reason I don't know what it was and this is an interesting thing to that I've come to understand better developing friendships with law enforcement you know they they come up to a car and they are just they're doing a stop and it's another touchpoint for their day but somebody in a car might be in the back of their mind thinking oh my God I have a misdemeanor or felony I might be going to prison for the rest of my life so two very different headspaces as they converge in this instance I believe it a pistol that was in between the driver seat and the little center console individual win for it somehow they came out of the car and it just became a scuffle at that point and they fought until other cops arrived and they squeak dog piled on the person and ended it and it was over I believe they were at that for like 10 to 15 minutes cheese and for people who don't understand how hard it is to go that hard for 10 or 15 minutes I mean f*** if they weren't in shape and that guy was that would have been deaf so he sound Jiu-Jitsu he just got his he's awesome but he started my buddy who made that comment and then I have started they'll do defensive tactics. I've helped him out twice while just go and I'll be a role player I'll just lay there on the ground and put my hands on my chest and I have to try to cost me and it's an eye-opening experience I mean I've been at this for 18 months I'll be the first to tell you I don't know s*** I'm at the point now where I'm starting to realize how little I actually know people about now correct yeah and it's it it's like a foreign language like I can kind of see a little bit of the alphabet but don't even think for a second that I'm trying to put together words yet let alone sentences and so I'll go in and I did I was a role player for two of those and pressing I saw some of the same stuff where you can elicit responses for people like I was I was resisting but not a crazy amount and the amount of pressure that they started like applying to me grabbing fingers and pulling my fingers back it it almost to me I like I wanted to ramp it up just like anybody else would solder without that skill or without that tool in their tool belt if you run out of options and its they mean they have a dangerous job back it it almost to me I like I wanted to ramp it up just like anybody else would so there without that skill or without that tool in their tool belt you run out of options and its they mean they have a dangerous job at it as it is

you have a hot take on this handy what's your hot take by get text messages from people saying you know give me the inside scoop as to what's happening and what I should do yeah and I don't have a good answer I have the same information sources that everybody else does my concern is protect people that are sick and people that are old my concern is that these decisions are being done by politicians and that they they want to do this so that they can be elected Cambria election that they don't want people to be upset at them for not acting and so they're making these decisions and they're not showing us exactly how they're going to get out of this like when you shutting down Los Angeles for a month did just staggering amount of people that are going to be in debt and then there's some number that we looked it up recently of the amount of people that live check to check it's crazy it's like half of America I saw I was that they cannot absorb an expense outside of the normal over $400 that's gone that's already gone so already most Americans are fuct now just with this dip and then they're talking about extending this to April 19th I just don't I don't know if they have a plan I don't know how they're going to buy their way out of this like what do you do how do you how do you help those folks I mean I'm the wrong person to ask about that but I would I would hope at least at the politician I'm sure there's an aspect always if you are a politician in the back of your mind I have to conduct myself in a way where I can get reelected like everything is probably viewed through that but I would hope at least that they're viewing it through the humanity perspective and as far as the decisions are making I don't think anybody knows what to do so they're doing something we all need to look at Idris Elba cuz that guy looks f****** great he does he's got it he's got it and he seems fine Tom Hanks he says he just kind of tired it's I can't make heads or tails of it because if you go the longer you spend on your phone I think the more or your computer I think the more confused you actually become because I don't know but to be honest who's telling the truth and who is not their stories of people saying hey I tested positive for this I don't have any symptoms hey I live in Italy three people are dead in my hallway and I got sick and I don't feel that good and then you watch people walking around in zombie apocalypse suits with you know mopp level 4 gear on not listening to you know how they look on the beach yesterday and you know the people that huge social problems that I want to be near each other and from what I can tell from what I'm reading it again it's so heads or tails you know what you basically have to be caught on her Snead's owner touches surface that one of these infected people touched word close proximity and the people on the beach walking around and hazmat suits it's a wild time because of that because there's no clear information because you sing some people look really healthy and then you seen the stories that come out of Italy Italy is Italy has one of the oldest populations they they have a lot of old people and a s*** ton of smokers those two factors a huge here because this is a respiratory disease. They also have in comparison to the rest of the world more Generations living in a single household yes I would imagine is going to be you know as there's those Generations move on you're going to have high-risk people living with people who are low-risk but mine are transmitting it crazy just got back from Disneyland how like the fact they put that he just got back from Disneyland's it's all heart string pulling stuff but then if you go deep into the story this this young man just got over a testicular cancer he had bronchitis and he had asthma so there's a lot going on that had the deck stacked against the deck stacked against immune-compromised for sure because of coming off of the testicular cancer and then I but that with asthma and bronchitis and then he gets a respiratory disease those are the people that really have to worry and I really wish there was a clear way to help them other than shutting down everything for a month I was talking to Evan Hafer this morning called out of the blue and we were having kind of a conversation about this and he brought something up that just about the you know the narrative and it to me what's happening right now is is it's interesting from a cup prospectus for one I traveled in World enough and seen people living in a variety of different living conditions that right now in my opinion at least people are getting a glimpse into what it is like to live in the non first world where when maybe even have a grocery store but if you do that you can't get everything that you want and you can't travel all you know when you always want to know you don't have the freedom of movement that you want a lot of people live their life take the virus out of the equation a lot of people live life day today and situations just like this or much worse so I think it's should be eye-opening hopefully for people that there's a thin margin between the old Xs and luxury that we have in the first world and how fast that can be removed we can start stepping down that staircase and it shows to me you know I try to view the videos you see online of people fist fighting for a toilet paper I think those are the anomaly not try not to let you in we paint the norm I don't think most people are doing that but there are people that are doing that and they're people who are going in and they're hoarding and buying it and I don't think the toilet papers are good example I can give you 15 different ways to wipe your ass without toilet paper like you're going to be okay like it do you have a garden hose maybe we can start there I'm not even as the most yeah the clothes yeah what do you want to hit me and I have had many make it cleaner I didn't really check I don't have too much time but I've had many days where I started with two socks and ended with one I've had t-shirts that became tank tops I mean there's options that you have none of those I'm recommending for anybody but what I'm saying is the toilet paper we're talking about right before we went on when people get drunk couple of the layers of their protective like this is who I want to portray myself as you and what I see are people who are super concerned about me and far less concerned about we and the conversation I was having with Devin was you know it'd be great if we were talking about you know the people who are going to get crushed and I'm not an expert by any stretch of the ones already talked about a living paycheck-to-paycheck elderly who are in the high-risk category there on Social Security fixed-income and they can't even go out right now because they don't feel comfortable getting groceries at people going to get destroyed and I would love to have a conversation about a social construct or relationship that we have where we start talking about you know what we going to do to get food and Aid to these people what am I going to do to come together and help everybody out so that assholes and Target hoarding toilet paper to me a lot of that is driven by and a lot of is driven by Panic and believe me I'm not an expert at all probably on anything in my life but one thing that I have some experience in his surviving and thriving and high-risk situations that are high stress which is kind of what's going on right now is a different type of stress in the most dangerous thing you can do is lose control your emotions or let your emotions take over your decision-making cycle which is what I see people doing and it's it's so dangerous and I think we need to start finding ways to back away from that and start talking about the we greater than me I don't think there's a toilet there's a shortage of people with common sense we're buying too much toilet paper which is freaking other people out so they're buying too much stuff which they don't actually be which is freaking up an automated system affect a fear Kaskade it's not good it's not good it's all so this is the first time we as a nation have been tested like this with it with a crisis where the country had to shut down without any experience in it so we don't know what to expect what I hope is it it gives me a little bit of flashes is the right after 9:11 because we have had time for the country shut down but was very very brief but I remember like the solidarity after 9/11 it was all about we and you had about me and I hope that it trends that direction because who knows when this is going to end I mean my kids are out of school I think for the year per day at school what is Artie you know they're actually doing a really good job, these locations you can get free meals that's assuming the kid has a way to get there because Montana's scalable write a million people in the entire State the states f****** massive it's not out of control California's 40 million f****** people in this in one spot it's so Preposterous and there's so much poverty there's so many people that were barely hanging on as it is and now they're off the cliff and they don't know what to do and there's no real protection set in place now to keep them from being evicted in leave you know I don't like unscrupulous landlords people have been looking for a reason to get released people in the first place f*** man who knows who know who knows what's going to go on what's real confusing it's real confusing and it be seen the stats like the Jamie maybe put this up on the screen because it's kind of it's it's it's really kind of crazy that this is the choice that they've made to shut everything down right now got to we got here Thursday so a day before they made that decision and the decision was made last night and went into effect in exactly the same amount of people are still out I mean there's no real law I mean it was more of a recommendation than anything but they do have to close businesses will I think they're helping the people do buy into a social contract like maybe we can care about the we over me but I just you see people not doing that one it was more of a recommendation than anything but they do have to close businesses will I think they're hoping that people do buy into a social contract like maybe we can care about the we over me but I just you see people not doing that when they're pressed and that and that gets rough

I'm pretty good thing about a month ago actually on the mats I was climbing on a guy's back was a good lesson for me to I was sleep over the top I got both of my hands involved and he rolled and snap my head into the mat and I didn't have a Chase planted and I didn't again I don't have s*** so I'm learning is a mistake that I haven't made since then but hooks in and was kind of just getting too involved in that traffic moving in the same thing the headache for a few days afterwards wild when they they try to get out of things not that's a particularly dangerous move when someone's on your back and you decided it's kind of a dick head move really what would have been okay if I had at least one post but like I said I was I wasn't thinking about that was me standing that he turned aliens turtled ending is tricky as f*** because they can just throw themselves backwards and on concrete or that's a game over it's a death sentence mean you're bi LG thought about that afterwards because you will see people who know I'm here because I want to learn to protect myself in the street and if I had done that on the street and had my head cracked on concrete and I have been waking up in the hospital or not at all you got to kick their legs out in those situations if you have someone's back and you're standing you got to you got to mean that the options that exist that don't exist in Jiu-Jitsu one of them is you kick their f****** legs out if you have someone's back you know you actually kick their leg you don't just just jump on them with the hooks in on concrete it's just too dangerous before you get to that position you you want to yank them and do something trip them do something to to get rid of their base but someone is strong that's so dangerous cuz someone is carry on their back and just throw themselves backwards me to hardwood floor anything or even against a building or a car to the ground or standing Guillotine front position so that's another one that's really f****** dangerous man with Guillotines I say guy shoots in with for a takedown and a guy grabs a guillotine pulls back and in this guy's head is the host of the wrong OK a guy on Team Alpha Male on Urijah Faber's team when it became paralyzed for life that way yeah in training in training shooting for the takedown and the guy gets 18 and they all all their weight together falls on this guy's head and his neck compresses in his neck breaks and he loses his his ability to move the rest of his life that's a common one in fact it's not common but it's happened multiple times and I'm aware of any imagine on the street you know someone tries to take you down on the street and you elevate and go into a guillotine position they fall down and slam if I can head first in your crack it open probably too yeah it's just there's so many I mean one thing that is a good criticism about you Jitsu is the lack of takedowns and that is a a real fact in any sort of real-world situation the hope is if you're in a bar or something like that there's a scramble most things wind up on the ground that's true until you deal with a skilled opponent and if you deal with a skilled opponent who has takedown defense and then you're stuck in the situation we're all right now you're in a realm where you're a white belt and this guy's a black belt like if someone is a problem wrestler who can strike a terrible position to be in and we saw that with a lot of in the early UFC a lot of Jiu-Jitsu black belts just didn't have takedowns and then they would get involved the wrestler would easily stuff their take down and the rest was a better Striker and those guys got f***** up yet imagine. It's not good I mean the only thing a lot of guys did their back and try to pull guard and try to entice a guy into coming to their back and then they would kick off their back like those Hixson use those those tactics when he fought punakaiki by kicking out his knee hyperextending is Nephi School rugged yeah that's a common common technique you know a guy standing over you and your on your back posting up you hyperextend Disney it's just like Jude always the best at my opinion for someone who's wearing clothes you know I think every Jiu-Jitsu guy would really greatly benefit from having a good comprehensive knowledge of of Judo how deep would you go to a good thing to learn magic. Fresno Kaiser so freaky chimp strong some of the freakiest champ strong guys ever roll with what you do people cuz you know players mad they're just all everything is to constantly this they're constantly grabbing it. Everything is a human body explosive moving like sandbag training with another 200 pound person all the time or or larger women like Ronda Rousey strong that woman is freakishly strong because she her whole body was designed to you know throw bodies around through a human body made it's like weightlifting right like when are you ever weight lifting your whole body well maybe if you're squatting or maybe your bench pressing if you accept was drunk or deadlifting advisable to do that with her whole body and your whole body weight is way more difficult to control cuz it's moving and resisting and if it's no try picking up a dead body or person who's out cold it's f****** hard you going to a person your wiggle I had to pick up a dude is 195 lb and I'll pick him up and he's out cold that's hard that person also resisting you know it's like they're some of the freakiest strongest people in the world just sit down when I start with you do people that really work with you and whose technique oriented not someone who just wants you to spot all the time cuz things that happened with Jude a lot when people are just getting involved in that there is a lot of scrambling on the feet that could put your legs in a compromised position weenie blows out how much your time watching the UFC how many of the takedowns UCR Judah based it's not that often but some guys are really good at it and the guys that are really good at it comes up you know there's there's there's some guys back when Karo parisyan was fighting Caro was a great judo player who is it in the early earlier days the successful UFC was one of the better Judo guys and he would hit he would hit hip tosses and all kinds of different judo throws all the time and Rhonda of course you would do it all the time too but with Rhonda that was basically the only way she would take you down with with like upper body grab should grab shoot her moves like to grab with grab the head and then take people down with that Andy and Yu's Judo but it does happen it but it only happened you know what happens with Sky grass shoot her moves like to grab with grab the head and then take people down with that in the end used you do but it does happen it but it only happened you know what happens with skilled players but it wouldn't when it does happen it's like it's a it's a big surprise often times like whoa

the numbers right to hospitalizations Intensive Care Unit admission case-by-case fatality percentage is reported for covid-19 by 18 covid-19 by age group so this is up until March 16th which is a couple days ago so 0 2 1923 cases 1.6 to 2.5 or hospitalized 0 ICU zerofatality so then you get 2244 that's U7 five cases 14.3 to 20.8 hospitalizations 224 ICU and 0.1 20.2 case-fatality you got to think those people pre-existing conditions just looking at those numbers 45 to 54 that's my age group 429 cases less for some weird reason 21 to 28 hospitalization 5.4 to 10.4 Isis 1.4 to 2.6 fatality again you got to thank those people pre-existing conditions and it gets all the way up to really old let's go to 85 + is Callens age that's count 844 Hospital 144 cases 31 out of 144 270 hospitals HR 31.3 to 7.3 hospitalization 62209 ICU fatalities 10 to 20 the vast majority of fatalities you looking at people between 75 and 84 which is 4.3 to 10.5 and then 85 + which is 10.4 to 20 7.3 so it's obviously not good for really old people it looks like you got a 25% fatality rate at the worst case scenario for hospitalized people that have the case but again for young healthy people it's not what it's being it's not it's not the big monster that everybody thinks it is I mean there's a people running around terrified that are young and healthy well then there's no concern is older folks Spectrum to their is the young people running around terrified and healthy and then there's the people who are mobbing beaches in Florida on spring break saying inaccurate but I would imagine the number because of the lack of testing but there's percentages are probably still the same you know I think there's probably bigger numbers yeah but kids are just going to be kids man you get 18 year olds on the beach in Florida there they're not worried about catching the covid-19 that is their brains aren't even form yet yeah my nine-year-old says they have monkey brains I'll try to explain to the 90 what are the development of the frontal lobe is and I'm like you know cuz you were just talking about I like I talk to my kids like their kids but also talk to them like they're adults I do the same thing that I I lay things out and then I explained so I lay things out like Adelaide to an adult and then I'm like your frontal lobe the part of your brain that makes the decisions and it's not fully developed you're 25 years old until you see the little nine-year-old brain spinning I go it's not really ready yet she said she's like so it's like squishy brain I go exactly 9 year old Dracula explain to my wife and then her and I had this little conversation about squishy brain and I'm like this is this with the frontal lobe is this is like when you see people that are young they're doing stupid things not even necessarily that they're stupid they're just acting it is there wild you know they're there their free their parents probably tell him what to do too much the school tells me what to do much their job tell them what to do too much and then they're out and have a couple f****** Miller High Life by the way we seen the coronavirus song yet Depot so that I so want to see it I want you to Jamie we can play it yeah I might have washed it fiber that's okay you're right but the gentleman who who made it these guys them at one of them reached out to me f***** up Reggie Baybee be2 and then there's a f****** Reggie Baybee e to_that's a fake account those comments and also I accidentally tagged the fake account at first but now I got the real f****** hoaxer who's pretending to be him the fake one is the one that has the underscore afternoon to those pieces of s*** that's the real dude Reggie baby about her mom you know which we should be and I'm concerned about my parents as well you know and more concerned that people are freaking out and it you know there's a lot of people around that have never been tested and they're not good under stress and this is a this is a very unusual stress because there's no clear answer not from the president not from the the doctors is not no one has a real clear answer of how to fix this when it can be fixed and when you hear things about like a vaccine will be available in 18 months it what will and if you continue reading that says if it is available in 18 months that would be three times faster than normal wow so that would be on the very front Leading Edge it would be possible to get in people's hands normal would be 3x that in osterholm who died was on the podcast really sparked a lot of people to take this very seriously there's excellent podcast by the way and that we are far too flippant about how we and if it's not there right in our face they don't allocate resources towards those kind of things I think are society's got a defined by its success and luxury yeah and when you live in that environment and I'm not saying it negatively at all but if you live in that environment if you never leave that environment if you don't bend yourself before the world ends of a little bit shift going to come off the rails when you get pressed itself I mean I have no over if I get the virus in how that plays itself out and I cannot control that but I can control my behavior and how I act and try to exude calm like when it comes to my kids are my family my friends and my Social Circle but yeah I wish I wish I hope that people on the other side of this because it's not going to be the end of the world but I hope on the other side gives them in it a greater understanding and appreciation in perspective of what we have how lucky we are and then just maybe to think about people what's the obesity rate in the US right now at 40% instead of allowing that access and you know luxury to Define you know how about that something you can control people in my experience to spend a lot of time energy and effort focusing on things that take not control and that is definitely one thing that I learned from my old job is that at some point you have to surrender the emotional and mental horsepower on the things that you can't control it only focus on the things that you can which is specifically yourself that you can't control what happens to you but you can control how you receive what happens to you and being scared allowing that to make the decision making process for you is what gets people in substantial trouble job sexy it can be quite terrifying and the number one rule of firefight if you get into a gunfight is to win but the first thing you need to do is you need to shoot back with overwhelming Firepower superiority and then you have to maneuver might have to pin your enemy in place when you have to maneuver but let's say that you get ambushed when you're on the receiving end of that and so you take any behind a wall and bullets are snapping over your head and you don't want to move because you're scared and you think I'm going to die so you have fear of death which is totally real and it can paralyzed people and instead of moving you sit there and other people maneuver around you that fear of death preventing you from doing the things that you had control over shooting back maneuvering coordinating with your team that fear paralyzes you and external circumstances with the Enemy that you're fighting maneuver around you and then they're going to end up killing it with the reason you didn't move is he allowed that emotion to take over your decision-making process you have to detach the two chocolate talks about it a lot and it's just reinforced consoling in training and in operations overseas and I'll be like that's if people ask what should I do when my biggest thing is just try to remain as objective as possible you see people freaking out that doesn't mean that you need to freak out and you don't know the way I've had it described me that made up a big influence on me in the way I think about things if you think about two circles like an archery target there's only two circles or the Bullet entering which is super small and then where are you when I need you with the big ring I guess it goes 10 9 8 out whatever the lowest scoring ring is that'll be the other ones you get two circles and the big circle is your circle of concern and the small circle is your circle of influence I see and the dangerous thing that I see often does people spending all their time with their energy and effort on the circle of concern what's going on in the stock market what's going on on Fox News what's going on on CNN Sharon back-and-forth things on but they're probably him have them aren't even true anyway no research put into it is there going to be enough toilet paper what do I do about this they don't have control over any of those things but that's the stuff that they're worried about and the only thing that you should spend your time energy and effort working on other things directly inside of your circle of influence and even decided that one there could be the circle of control and what do you have control over at all times the things that come out of your mouth how you behave whether or not you allow your emotions override your decision making process the way that you can whether or not you decide to work out as opposed to shoving 4000 excess calories in your face every single day you focus on those things and put your time energy and effort in there you're going to get through stressful situations just fine because you actually have more mental capacity because you're trimming off of the things you can't control the thing about things you can't control those some people or their they're thinking that this is one of those things that if you were a paranoid person and you Captain worried about the future you would have already stockpiled enough food and toilet paper and ammo and all these different things so that you were ready for this where his people they were just concentrating on day-to-day life didn't act didn't think a balance between I mean is it reasonable for everybody to have 5 years of food at their house stockpiled enough food and toilet paper and ammo and all these different things so that you were ready for this where his people that were just concentrating on day-to-day life didn't act didn't think a balance between I mean is it reasonable for everybody to have 5 years of food at their house

you're a sociopath and then they're out there they are out there a few I went to I went through bus with a sociopath leaving on her man with my buds class is still in jail for chopping people up and then disposing of their bodies with his wife back from at least once and might have had multiple times but they would go to bars find a couple continue the after party afterwards elicit an argument some type of exchange they killed I believe as a man and woman chop them up he used to work at a grocery store chain so he knew the day the very cyclical removing of the garbage cans are they got 10% of the landfill more often so we dispose of the body bodies in multiple restore garbage dumpsters and then they eventually got caught because in the middle of the night they broke into a Hooters to steal t-shirts and got caught by the cops and I believe it was in her purse they found a Spyderco knife with like hair and like basically tissues still on the knife I think the woman's ID high-level criminal it really thought this one through yeah of course you will. Why the f*** are you breaking into Hooters screens your knife you dirty b**** but again so this is a sociopath's out there and in this is another thing that I try to tell people off in the best people that I ever was around my entire life was in The Shield community and my mortal enemies in the worst people I've ever seen on the face of the Earth was in the seal Community as well he was the honor man in my bud class which if I look back if he had he had passed more Evolutions from a statistical perspective than anybody else in the class they weren't Act viewing him through the lens of is this person honorable or does he know they weren't grading and by his Integrity but it just goes to show you that no selection process is perfect and if you can't separate an individual from an occupation or a uniform or a black belt right if you think that because you have a black belt that you're going to be an awesome person or because somebody to seal that are going to be a great person stand f***** by and it's not the norm but I'm not I'm not I don't want him as the anomaly to paint the norm but it's important for people to remember that those people are out there and again they can leverage from my back when they can leverage the fascination curiosity people wanted to give back your most common questions that I get from people as you know how can I thank people for their service and we both a just say thank you and then am I answer them as be as you know provide him an opportunity if you feel it's necessary but don't allow them don't do anything for them and don't give them any special treatment make him earn it because then you can get a true look at the individual as opposed to perhaps just a shiny object but you were focusing on before so treat them as an individual thank them but treat them as if it is as an individual and judge them based on the merits of their behavior and there were one-hundred-percent not real thin there it's their background if you have a job you know you okay I want to provide opportunities for veterans no problem provide the opportunities for veterans but treat them exactly like the person who is in the cubicle next to him if it's in that environment obviously if you hold the person that was a non veteran to a certain Stan you better hold it back into the same standard don't let him get away with anything because it doesn't help them either you know it it it helps everybody in the organization if you set the standard and make sure everybody hold it it's Insidious to an organization to set a standard and why is this guy get special treatment seal and if that person is sociopathic or they are you know there's a bell curve there's a top 10% in the the top in the bottom 10% of his net bottom 10% by holding to that standard you're going to get an objective Viewpoint of that as opposed to just being blinded by whatever baby it's interesting but only you can say that or someone in your position can say that it's very difficult for someone is a non veteran to say anything remotely close to that will help they listen then because they don't need to say that they just need to if they needed to live that they need to structure their organization with that framework so its objective not subjective dislike people look at being a CEO it's not a Harry Potter wand I have probably at familiarity and comfort with weapons and tactics more than your average person but if I'm being completely honest about my old job I could teach a monkey to do most of the things that I did I'm serious I could teach a monkey to do the things that we did is not we're not out there doing you're out there doing you know we find an individual how are we going to get there okay let's figure it out when you get there the standards we get on target everything is based on tactics and standard operating procedures are ttp's tactics techniques and procedures and everybody is trained of those standards so you know what to expect from somebody whether they're from the East Coast team or a West Coast team you can meet in the middle and we are taught to clear rooms the same way and it's just it's it's not complicated actually the blade of make us less effective and efficient would be to make it complicated the simpler that you can make it. that makes sense I mean it makes but it's also the mind of a seal like the type of person that can get through buds that's that's complicated that's complicated than just being able to control your mind you know one of the things that you said in one of the more times you talked about it was someone who's able to keep their world small Utah small exit people that applies to what's happening right now too so what you're talking about you know buds is a physical test actually I would say haven't gone back as an instructor which I learned much more about the process applying the curriculum as opposed to going through it because as a student you just like her as an instructor I can look at the entire curriculum in the story arc of where you start on day one and the product you're going to get at the end it's a physical test but we're using the body to test the mind we're stressing the body we're going to make you tired hungry hypothermic we're going to get you so exhausted the point that you're going to hallucinate and we're going to take a look at how you behave do you value we over me know one of the first things they do in buds your explain the concept of the swim buddy and you don't get to go anywhere farther than 6 feet away from another human being for that 6-month time. that is the opposite of most people's mentality and you can test it really on you yell at him you said hey you got 30 seconds to go to run out to the ocean and get wet and in the first few days they just take off and they start running because they forgot about this one but either me Centric and so you bring them back and you punish them the individual that made that choice and then also this one buddy you know to reinforce that people there are consequences to other people from your behaviors and after about two weeks you really can't separate people from their swing by so it's a and then it should have been getting point where you can instill this philosophy of we is greater than me just one of the most beautiful things I think from the seal Community if you talk to people or my experience has been as in talking to people in their most dire moments where things are getting the worst are often more concerned about the people to their left and right than they are about themself my biggest fear probably I know it was in the seal Community but to this day is that I am not going to be there when somebody needs me why was my biggest fear in the seal community that I was live up to the standard of the people to the left and right held at me and that they were going to suffer for it I was more concerned about letting them down to myself getting hurt or killed and that starts with that ethos from SEAL training but it's not a complicated course we're stressing the body to stress the mind and if you look at the people who make it through so when I went back as an instructor as a student when you're going through training if somebody next to you quit so you never see them again but there's no hey dude what the f*** are you doing like they're just gone can you continue on with your day because you just want to graduate program as an instructor you can talk to those people and you can ask really important questions my favorite question is why you said you this was your lifelong goal this is all you've ever wanted to do you left a D1 scholarship to come here because you saw no for yourself no value in higher education and he wanted to come to the zoo with me didn't you quit why time and time and time again and try would get from the students as they got over with so they were doing the opposite of keeping their world small cuz there's two ways you can look at Bud's its 180 days long and then plus or minus one or two or you can look at it as a sunrise and a sunset hundred eighty times so you can look at pie and go oh my God I have to eat this whole thing where you can look at a slice and eat the slice and not worry about the rest of the slices and keep doing that and doing that until the training process is complete hell week is another good example of start Sunday in the evening and ends Friday in the Community about 2 hours of sleep on Wednesday that's it it's horrendous to go through and it's pretty entertaining as an instructor cuz you can totally f*** with the students cuz they're off their rocker by Tuesday afternoon but almost all of the attrition occurs from Sunday night until I'd say Tuesday morning and beyond that you're probably going to make it through cuz you've invested so much but the advice that I was given when I went through was don't look at how weak as a 5-day pipeline just make it to your next meal they have to feed you ever so if I can stack 6 hours on 6 hours and 6 hours and just focus on getting to the next meal doesn't matter how much I'm in pain doesn't matter how cold am if I can just get to the next meal or get a reprieve a mental reset and I can continue on that's that in combination with some you know the mental toughness is how you approach and set your goals and then resilience in my definition of resilience will be the ability to get bent and come back when you were before the way you do that is by bending yourself as often as possible which you do all the time by running Sprints or you don't mean that you're doing that stuff you're mentally tough because of that and if you can apply that resilience to approaching setting an approaching your goals from digestible perspectives you can accomplish insane amount so that's really what I mean it's a physical test or just testing the mind can the individual ignore the big and focus on the small can you do the step that you need to do and knock it over regardless if you're tired exhausted hungry cold and that's really all it is it's not a complex training program that there's the ocean there's the beach there's some telephone poles are some boats and then later on WE introduce scuba gear and towards the tail end of it that you know some Demolition and pistol and rifle how many days can you stay awake for where it becomes dangerous to your health I don't know it's dangerous for their health in hell week is there's a huge safety Network for them you don't see it as a student because you're so just task saturated there are MD's walking around all over the place that people constantly know we're checking the temperature of the water will take core body temperature is on the students were keeping a very good eye and we're bothering them because by about Wednesday they're brain-dead I don't know how long you can stay awake without suffering from severe physical consequences of sleep in the whole week on the wall at the bus compound it pays to be a winner and the inverse of that is incredibly true it does not pay to be a loser in the seal community in for clarity loser as anything other than first place in the community that I came from the podium has one platform not the great so if you win you might get 15 minutes off of work hammering the s*** out of the rest of class Bud's hell week boat crew race MLB students running with boats on their heads and people get bald spots from it and what do you race is like a take that boat that's supposed to be in the ocean and you're going to run with on your head as a crew of seven people three people on each side and the leader in the back and the end of four miles will be done with this boat crew will break and then losing boat cruise will get remediated for my yep there you got that neck on that front right guy this later on in life will do long ones and small but still probably 150 200 pounds and then go out past the flip the boat over for no reason other than it's difficult and forces him to get wet right the boat come back in continue the race but you might get you know 15 minutes while we're meeting in the class and we know what's going to happen at 15 minutes you see people sleeping standing up you see people space down and hi-lift track in the sand sleeping they're sitting there sleeping and it's kind of just a reward he just leave me alone for 15 minutes ocean wow five days of that and it took about people in that you learn a lot and you see people push to the point where do you care about me over week and we get rid of the people who cannot prioritize we over me arrogance comes out you see the light in the the leadership as well you know the students are largely the Same by from a physiological perspective there's ones that are faster Runners and promote contractile potential like stamina or a cardiorespiratory endurance but most of them are the same percent difference between the students but these little PODS of 7 people some of them can work together and they're just crushing it in other ones you'll see the other whores in the boat so when they run their stuff on the top and you'll see he'll be out paddling and then do the see a sword fight start with people knocking each other's heads off with oars do suppressed is a human being like from all the physical tools that we have that the real person comes out and sometimes boat cruise will just hit Jake Tapper snail hate that person so much because of their they might be selfish or arrogant or they're not pulling their weight and they will just harp on that person or beat the s*** out of person eventually they'll end up quitting now when they do get in a swordfight what do you do do you kick them out if they get in sword fight should you let them sort it out. now when they do get in a swordfight what do you do do you kick them out if they get in sword fight so you let them sort it out I'm 11 sort it out

that's one of the things like you really have to get into those valleys to appreciate to really hit those Peaks I think that's what's going on right now as you're saying that I'm thinking about like literally what's happening in this country and I hope that you know we get to the point where we see the sun and we do it but then we have to also not forget I think you're 100% right I think we have a really really easy in this country what you were saying about this is the reality of third world countries or places where me and you're under a military dictatorship can't get food you can't travel wherever you want to you don't have the freedom to move about whenever you want to and we're in a weird situation here today in California they put this lock down on everybody we're supposedly until April 19th you can't have a gathering more than 10 people and you're all essential businesses are supposed to be closed like a f****** good luck with that Goodluck Goodluck Goodluck with a whole month of work is crazy stuck with me that I use as like a lens of context from overseas news from Afghanistan I was in a sniper OverWatch position and I was watching a little one side of the valley there's a unit on the other side of the valley and there was a village in between and I watched an individual come out in the morning to the only water source in the valley small stream and watch him just take a s*** in the water and then the day another person came out and downstream of that took a bath in the water and later on in the day a woman came out with two kids and got their drinking water Downstream from both of those things and went back to their house and it's like okay we have it really really good really really really really good in that Village there was probably a light bulb why did you take a s*** in the river yeah I mean that's the thing about people that's the willingness to do something that you know is going to negatively impact others but you don't care because in the moment it's good for you when you see someone throwing a cigarette out the window of the car that's a perfect example that they don't want that cigarette in their car so they just saw somebody else will handle it but if you see enough of those things are in that it reframes the way that you look at what people complain about and about that day very often because it in that short period of time it's just like why don't ever really have that much to complain about what's going to go on right now for the next few months I would guess maybe the rest of yours going to be horrendous and I hope that everybody makes it out okay on the other side but the reality is people going to die and it's going to stalk and it's going to destroy families and then the economic destruction will probably be worse than the physical destruction from the death side of the house but we're still going to be okay the end of that and even as if it gets horrendous here we are doing so much better than so many other people on the face of this Earth their daily best is not going to even approach what it's going to look like at our worst as we navigate our way through this my biggest concern is not just the deaths which is a big concern not just the financial crisis which is also a big concern but it's also the government gobbling up freedoms in in exchange for the illusion of safety that's a real concern for a long yeah but it's it's also whenever there's a real crisis there's always an excuse to pass legislation that diminishes our rights made sister it's makes it easier for them makes it easier for them to do what they perceived to be their job only if people are scared it's no because they're finding the seams in people's attention span there instead of being objective they're being emotional and that clouds your vision in a cloud your judgment and when they're not paying attention because they're scared because they're online day looking at people taking pictures of the empty toilet paper aisle in the grocery store other people who might have malicious intent or moving on that men and nobody's paying attention to it yeah that's where a lot of people the more what's the best way to say I'm trying not to use the word retarded conspiratorially minded that don't think very well their first run was accurate people take advantage of moments if that's the difference that's what really happens when there's moments where they pass something like the Patriot Act of the Patriot Act to they do it it's not because they've set this up to the pass that know that use it as an opportunity because they know the people are scared and they use it as an opportunity to further diminish our rights cuz it makes it easier for them to control us and that's over that's a real concern right now it's a real concern right now and it's something people last thing you should be thinking about know it's one of the things you should be thinking about there's many things you should be thinking about right now besides your safety in your house and not spreading a disease and make sure you wash your hands and stay away from old people and maintain social distance all that stuff is important but also recognize what the f*** these career politicians and these is career lawmakers needs career people that are in in charge of controlling Mass groups of people at any laws that help you with any it said help you it makes their job more difficult they have something to be concerned with right now I didn't fear is totally natural I stink if you don't experience fear you might Trend towards the sociopathic side of the spectrum but it's totally natural should be expected but you have a choice and how you receive what is going on and you can allow the sphere to Cloud your judgment and drive your decision-making process for you can can recognize that the fear of something you know fear of death overseas fear of death overseas on what keeps you alive objective analytical thought process in doing the things that need to be done keep you alive regardless of how scared you are or fearful you are that's what keeps you alive it's okay to be scared but just don't let it just don't let it take over and control you

do you want to hear an Aztec death whistle oh my God who would the Aztecs when they were talking to enemy they would do that on the hillside like why they camped out sleeping there to keep them up all night psychologically f*** with him Jesus Christ the time blowing that death whistle that's coming sounds of a demon this is bad luck with the Warriors there's like one of those bad idea

you see what Trump tweeted now but we didn't delete it as f****** hilarious he said checks are coming to everyone in America except the people who used #not my president I wouldn't want to offend you with a check from someone that's not your president someone is Department's probably like mr. Chomp that's not a good idea but everyone's going to go hey you could have done this the whole time that's right people money can just give people more money and if I'm not saying we should do this but give people more money support their family that's on the right start on fire they know that it's like a bribe to try to keep people from rioting until whatever the f*** is bacon past or giving people a different environment to exist in one that doesn't leave them hostile if you could just get by and then you could pursue other things would that be better for society and that was like what Andrew Yang was suggesting if this whole automation Revolution took place and everything started getting automated and no one had a job anymore. There might be something to that there might be something that now even you know they're the question is like what are what are you happy you're your taxes get used for you know you sure that's almost like you should be able to vote on that like the one thing that we don't get real Direction on right like in terms of like with with the country actually want but if we could all just individually vote on things like that like where's where's my taxes go to education and you know what to do with the rest of the money Murray's how are the salaries of politicians private jets dress rehearsal is a dress rehearsal for people going to become Preppers it is going to be amazing for the toilet paper in the street they're going to they're going to experience a banner year if it got toilet paper stock you riding high right now do you remember that I don't know if you if you had this experience but like I can remember sitting at my computer and pressing the button on Amazon where I wanted to buy something and it's like this isn't available right now it's my birthday bracelet things it didn't like suddenly just realized oh my f****** God how completely week if I become that I got accustomed to pressing this button and people with bring groceries to my house and now they don't now it's like stop and pick up some food always been there it's not there dude I have an instacart delivery today you do cuz we wanted to get stock up on food $200 worth of food guess what I got strawberries hummus and I think we got like I don't know some like eggs that's it send everybody $2,000 a month but what are they going to buy if there's like no food on the shelves like what why you think that was a temporary freak out with people stockpiled stuff and I think as long as food keeps getting delivered on a normal schedule I think that'll normal out so fragile they're so vulnerable like it's an emergency happens and everyone wants to call it once the cell phone system can handle it like it's not like you have a phone and you can call anytime you want and I have a phone I can call anytime I want and everyone in the world is a phone they can call anytime they want know if everybody does that the system is not set up to handle that make phone calls yeah he's not going to get through yeah dude I just heard on NPR that so many people requesting unemployment that it's crashed systems in several States what what happens now when there's no food on the shelves to help them text message thread with Whitney Cummings and Nick Swardson and crystalia were talking about that very thing right now I kind of do it and how to set up a fund and needs to be done for sure you know people that can help should help this is not a normal time does not a time where people are lazy this is a time where the whole world got f***** real quick right now I got to do it and how to set up a fund it needs to be done for sure you know people that can help should help this is not a normal time does not a time where people are lazy this is a time where the whole world got f***** real quick and we're going to have to come together

but this is a good time for people to recognize the importance of community it's a terrible time for Humanity is a terrible time for us and terrible time for the people that are sick but it's a really good time for us to understand why communities important we live in this illusionary world this provided to us by the culture that we've created where you can just buy things anytime you want you don't need people to come home you watch Netflix you don't engage with anyone to get in your car you barely say hi to anybody at work or detached from each other and this is the only time ever in life we've been detach me to the number being detached by these goddamn Electronics yeah is sneaking up on us yeah electronics and cars which is also you know today it's also a creation of mechanical creation and now more than ever they're driving computers yeah man it's true like trying to watch the worst thing I'd like a Charles Manson Kaczynski and yeah it is who you know it is a little bit like kind of interesting Lee not that is so Imperial or something when you're reading it I like you all over LA and what they do they post people post s*** they need so like one of the moms just had to get if they don't have any wet wipes and so then all the other moms but we've got wet wipes and then right now they're just leaving them on the door so people come and get him so it's like I think the community thing is exactly right I need what do I have and then start some form of like trade or just giving people you know there was someone he set up a toilet paper exchange I don't know where are you then you got to help them and this is you know this is a weird time for us but it's a time for us to reset you know it's not it's not good I'm not saying it's good but I'm saying there's a we can get a positive out of this people that make through the people that make it through we can get a positive out of this in the positive is communities important is really important and it seems like it wasn't important cuz it seems like we had everything set up so you didn't have to engage with people it's not the right way to do it it's not good for anybody now that kind of life is not good in the Detachment that we had me that's why why do you think people have road rage on the highway you know when they're they're blocked in a little box operated from people in a way that they believe but they wouldn't have it in person it was just a piece of metal and glass separating from these people visit the other added factor of the heightened senses because of driving fast you realize you might have to make quick movements so dumb things people do for elevated and her even the more dumb you're you're in these boxes right it's like a weird dream with some weird s*** to each other yeah because of that we're all gummed up in that way it's like something it's like it's like a fungus that grew on the circuitry of society and start to communicate with each other sonar it is completely made us disconnected from the earth essentially like our Earth connection has been replaced by a technological connection of Technology about secondary things compared to your feet touching the ground being around when people when you're with someone I know I don't know if you ever done that but just like the next time you're around anybody that you're like buying ship from or that you don't normally just kind of go by feel like that can that you can feel it there's an energetic connection that you can feel their that's easy to overlook yeah we lost the biggest one which is through light pollution I think every night people were humbled and reminded of the Majesty of the universe when they looked up and saw the infants guy clear night half the infinite Stars just the whole Milky Way you can see the whole thing yeah you know when there's parts of the country where there's plenty of darkness and you could literally see the whole Milky Way and it makes you think like all our ancestors saw this f****** freaky s*** all the time we decided to shut off the greatest art the world has ever known because we want to be able to see better at night the greatest art and art that literally not not just his inspired science and one 2N fueled right but also as as kind of always put people in place always just just understand this is not a backdrops not a tapestry that up there is madness it's forever and you're not protected there's just a thin layer of gas between you and the universe which is infinitely your this tiny little speck of nothingness in this impossible to understand expanse of planets and stars it just goes on forever really forever and one little tiny piece of it and we're being held here with a spin and some are and there's a giant f****** Fireball in the sky to Keep Us Alive it's a million times bigger than it is almost too crazy to put in your cyst on a daily basis so we forget about it all the time it's the one of the most important things about our existence here as it were a part of the universe yeah it's not just at work in you know f****** Sherman Oaks or we're hanging out in Montana nut were right there connected in the universe and it doesn't get brought up in one of the reasons we don't see it we don't f****** freak out if you go to the country camping you f****** freak out you like me nachtmann to see him all it's it's a reset but the changes how you feel about life yeah yeah also seems like a lot of us have forgotten that we're going to die on top of all that I mean looking up at this void filled with stars but the thing you are is a temporary and that to me is I feel so lucky to be washing dishes right now I'm alive I'm healthy as f****** it with a different kind of washing dishes than a week ago when I was able to or two weeks or for the s*** started when I can order anything I f****** wanted off the internet I'm in a different world like this is the world a my house right now I don't know what this s*** is so it's like suddenly these are what you're experiencing is this kind of like what was it say in the Bible that we both loved so much fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and I think you could easily translate that to understanding your place in the universe should produce a kind of positive fear and trembling this doesn't last nothing about this last and right now everyone around the planet is getting a first-hand glimpse of that very truth right and now we know it going to and now we know it hey look this is a this is a terrible thing but relatively speaking compared to supervolcano asteroid impact compared to something solar flare something really crazy that can happen and blow out all the power which is 100% of possibility solar flares are 100% a possibility and four people did not recognize that and it just go through the life it's just because we we we look at life as if what we've experienced while we're alive is the norm but it's not it's not the norm it's just hard for you to recognize that your life is so short you life is so short that when they're measuring all the different catastrophes that have happened over the Earth with her it's proven sites of asteroid impacts are proven sites of volcano eruptions are all these different things that have happened for sure and wiped out millions of people all over the world happen over time span that's too big or head doesn't get in there or had doesn't go with what is 3013 thousand years is just some scratches on some paper in my head my stupid head and I don't know what 13,000 years means I can't I can't do it but 13,000 years ago they think and there's more and more evidence everyday that there was some big impact on Earth and who f****** knows how many of those humans have gone through who knows the scientist believe with what is it it's like 300000 + years we've been this isn't the idea Homosapien that's so short just in the time that the Earth has been here in the four point whatever billion years the earth has been here and that's so short in terms of the almost 14 billion year the known universe has been here all of its Madness every single step along the way is mad but we get stuck and he's little time. We're nothing changes and so we think that this is life so we built all these houses that only can work on electricity how many f****** people have a real fireplace in their house that live in cold places here and banning those now a hundred years Industrial Revolution The Roaring Twenties from from Den to today everyday is so dumb it's especially to say with in terms of the earth natural disasters space anomalies likes things that happened all the dad in the universe we don't know that there isn't something called like a quad treezy and ripple it happens every 16 million years is my name is Ozymandias ruler of rulers King of Kings behold my Works ye Mighty and despair all or remember me for a long time we don't know who you are it's all gone eradicated wiped out and this to me is like one of the really side effects of this thing this technology thing is we've all become completely self-obsessed self-absorbed out there making sure there are profiles are updated making you know what I mean like we have this idea of they were all the only way that we can finally see how connected we are is something motherfuker eats a bat you know what I mean really did have an effect on the programming of human beings in a few beings interacting with technology think we're internet and innocently in Iraq with a non-sentient thing but all the while this technology and you could call take the week we get confused with him to technology is like a digital clock or television or computer it is but it's also like a fishhook right like so that the Sony is innovation so he figured that out and imagine creating an ape that is aware of its environment like this is like the perfect storm but obsessed with itself nose in the back of its head that it's it's temporary but it's it's it's got a finite life-span but lives like it's going to live forever and lives in the moment there's in the moment and want to acquire things I can see who's the number one goal for the you know the uber wealthy or the Uber successful the Jeff Bezos types of characters right or the top of the food chain financially choir sings throes acquiring things which means people to make things which means there's a big consumer as well as as someone who's is making a s*** ton of money right and this also fuels Innovation cuz you have to keep up with these people going to keep giving them bigger and better things every year so it innovation of Technology 150 megapixel camera or Euro loser loser Samsung phone 7 inch screens now everyone's going crazy what is the Gold Coast to make better s*** and the go along the way I like this girl is it's working but you know be even better if we made it so they don't touch each other anymore and week maybe we could come up with a disease we can't shake hands they don't they don't come close or Ryan yeah just keep them a little further apart from each other more interested in the things more interested in the technology more more separate from each other and encourage technology that connects them with each other so through technology you find this human longing for contacted Debra Messing in their life they going to get an emulated version of it but that emulated version of is just going to keep getting better and it's going to keep getting better and it's going to get to a point where it's better than real life way better than real life cuz you like Jumanji you get to be the rock you know you get to be the like a superhero like you could you could live a magical life with no boundaries of physics and that they're going to do that people going to do that they going to give in if I was at a life-form that was trying to haunt another life-form and trick it into giving birth to me that's I would create a person I crave people we play some f****** Aunt we're like some aunt that manufacturing our successors one good thing of something like this anytime a tragedy happens people bond together afterwards it's a terrible thing that it happened but it's for the victims in the family members the victim's we all know this but it can be a good reset for Suriname going to have to get through it that's going to be the most difficult part yeah and I think there's there's going to be an opportunity for us to just assume a nicer stance towards our neighbors and towards our friends and towards our community and instead of embracing this idea like better get guns cuz they're coming maybe we can all come together for whether things are right or wrong in the news we need something to retune ourselves like right now we're tuning the guitar of our identities to these till like the most terrifying which is the news or like what people are saying and so many people become so accustomed to getting their idea what's happening in reality from the TV instead of from like how they feel inside what's going on with her engineer family that puts people incredible disadvantage because their Pond is being rippled by s*** you know I was thinking it's like one of those little prairie dogs Mizzou adorable adorable animals ever I remember when I was growing up in the old days when the news had an alert that was series some serious s*** with you you'll be what the f*** Fox News or any of the news stations to have an alert like every 4 minutes now start danger out here danger out here until we're all like even before this s*** we were huddled up a little bit now we can rationalize the huddling you know and that's what we're doing just huddling inside right now that's an incredibly vulnerable place to be I mean I'm not going to get conspiratorial here but

happening right now with this virus where everybody's being forced indoors and forcing us to stop work it's it it's a terrible thing for people financially but it is in a sense a reset button the real reset button to know that this shity job you hate going to go away at any moment because all jobs to go in any moment is a real wake-up call because even the good jobs are going away right if you're in San Francisco you have the best job in the world guess what you can even go there everyday you can't go you can't go out so that can be taken away from you too so if you were living a bulshit life like recognize that all of this for everybody could go away if Yellowstone blows half the people died right sometimes just to let us understand that the window of time that we've been existing in I've been relatively free of disaster is unique and that's not normal normal is madness normal is we're in the middle of a f****** Shooting Gallery spinning a thousand miles an hour around Fireball that's normal and every now and then ship flies into our atmosphere and wrecks Havoc this is why I left but Hollow Earth hollow hollow Earth is like to me my favorite of them all because like the insides for a long time and if we want to go into like the cool idea of the atlanteans an advanced civilization is some point if you can't create a way to protect from that meteor impacts and you're looking to create a sustaining civilization you're going to want to go in there man and so it took me it's such a fun cool idea did in the core of the earth is another son that has an advanced civilization that hasn't been disrupted by the s*** that happens on the surface of the planet it turns the earth into a spaceship inside the spaceship for these Advanced beings and outside the spaceship it's like a Celestial fungus growing out to the Sea you know us that are inside the thing who have basically been completely disrupted over and over and over again so there they have no idea what history is they have no idea where the planet came from they don't know anything and now we've sort of growing out of control all around the ship and so this kind of s*** that's happening is like turning on the windshield wipers it's like describe the f****** surface doing some earthquakes Yellowstone is just a windshield wiper for the people whose ideas what we are where the first thing that can manipulate our environment that has ideas where the first thing with ideas all these other animals that instinct right route the best patterns to acquire food how to sneak up on birds but if you think cats have ideas well guess what they all the same f****** idea there's a specific kind of idea that's unique to human being regardless of the sentient of other animals hours is unique in that allows us to make stuff not just little things we can make gigantic machines the traveling to space and all the the wild creations of human being I'm out of ideas we think it's all humans but true we will we're the ones that put full but if your a thing that wants to get born you need a host get that curious 8. Just been trying to figure out better ways of stab its neighbor with a spear get that thing and slowly infected with ideas ideas of a new stuff to make and then it goes out and does the work for you and then you take over the Earth the ideas of taking over the Earth just the toys the ideas now if instead of ideas you said demons I mean that's that's literally what people used to think was happening folks and I did terrible think they had bad ideas they acted on those bad ideas and ancient religions thought of those ideas like they were demons like these people were possessed there was a common thought that someone is possessed by demon swarms of idea what does he do look what he's done he's one guy that's probably had more of an impact on our perception of what the future holds in terms of Technology than any other one individual human being that is widely known of like he is a famous human like he is I mean he's doing Tesla which is the most advanced electric cars in the world are insane Denny's doing this f****** Loop thing right the hyper or the boring project was boring was in the hyperloop is doing the boring project making tunnels under LA and Vegas and going to be able to shoot through those tunnels 120 miles an hour jokes and ideas there's no Rhyme or Reason to why the what what they are is an antenna for ideas those ideas come at me like why I'm glad I thought of that and then you go to work on fracking to go to work all kinds of different crazy things that changed the world forever whoever invented Fukushima or that group of people whose ideas all coincided talk people into building a Chantix nuclear furnace you can never shut off how crazy is that that's crazy we have no way to scan human consciousness incoming IDF where was the idea was just floating in the astral plane gradually just shooting towards Hitler's is fueled by an ecosystem and fueled by nutrients right human beings are fueled by plants and fish and animals and vitamins and always everything's well these ideas are fuelled or fueled by insecurity and ego and lust and greed and jealousy and anger virtue in love and prosperity and Comfort Inn and community and all those different components of human consciousness all interactive this idea so the idea becomes like a just hitches a ride and hitches a ride with all these ideas that that already exists in your brain and then with these pre-existing structures like businesses and warehouses and all these different things that we use to make stuff and then ship it out then the idea becomes a thing and then the idea why it's up in the belly of a seagull because it fish whoops sorry your dad who did Seagal you couldn't figure out that's a bottle cap or not a fish and that this is this is how things change they don't just change because the people were blaming ourselves and it is definitely us that's doing the work but it's all coming out of ideas if we thought of ideas is a life force instead of thinking ideas like something you own something you hold even though you deserve credit for your ideas because your discipline to sit down cultivate these ideas accelerate the production of those ideas and exercise has the muscle through which those ideas come through focus and energy he deserve credit for it is not socialist way of looking at it but everybody that has an idea that's really good till tell you it's like it came out of nowhere like every great bit they've ever had a lightbulb goes off and you have the thought and it comes out of nowhere that's like most things that are really cool they kind of come out of nowhere I bet they've ever had a lightbulb goes off and you have the thought and it comes out of nowhere that's like most things that you write that are really cool that kind of came out of nowhere to sit there and then all sudden you think of things there an idea that you're wrestling you just catch him

I'm good may you please God bless this room and Odin two just in case they were wrong that's how you know Fame is a god he's like don't you f*** her see the lightning yeah that's who I'm throwing bolts he's like one of those guys and you go to Vegas and you see when those Billboards for a strange Casino in like distance Fox doors on Cameo imagine about that some some atheist was arguing against religions different gods the people who believe in the Christian God don't believe it and he goes 80 take it one step further. I believe I am I'm open everything person I don't believe stories about people coming back from the dead and I don't because they're written by people right yeah man I mean there's supposed to be a kind of fractal that has inside of it a lot of like symbols related to just human existence not they're not meant to be so much like taken literally then English all these different languages that are so different like if you ever use the the translate button like I follow a lot of Russian Fighters and they and their Instagram feed their right in Russian and I always like it's a really cool feature you can tell it's not exactly what they meant because it's all f***** up because their language is different Oye this is really fit all right now add time real or not but that's why it's like okay I get this because the Book of John when you read it you're like oh someone wrote it I don't know who wrote it and you ever f****** wrote this their mind was blown Matt like this wasn't written by someone he was just like a normal person is the person who was freaking out in the most intense way and something about how old it is and historical distortions the warping of It produced this kind of awesome glitched-out Mosaic of if nothing else human consciousness 5000 years ago where our minds were that's trippy by itself regardless of whether or not came from and why the so Universal is someone has to everyone has like a Creator everyone has like a main dude that did the thing and you know there's some other people that have like large groups of Gods like the Greeks had gods for everything the end of native a lot of Native Americans have gods for everything

it's a dress rehearsal for death I mean you're going to that's up to thing is is like that blink if you're an atheist what you do and I think there must be some like deep like a real blow out so I could do accession now I know a couple and those those are the most puzzling to me because the people have done like real blow-out mushroom sessions or blowout DMT sessions I always think that they would lie the door open to The Impossible because it is impossible and you experienced it's not like even if you were imagining it I couldn't imagine that so how am I imagining that I imagine something in such incredible Vivid color and in detail and her and knowledge and love and all these different things you experience in that state that state is otherworldly the fact that that is accessible at all I don't care if it's through a molecule or through a yoga session I don't care how it's accessible the fact that accessible it all leaves open to me the I don't know because I didn't know that that was a thing so once I've experienced out of my all this flat plane of existence that we take for granted that we think this is this is everything around this is the whole environment have to worry about for this might be just one f****** stage on the radio dial of experience right and up of Dimensions that are interacting with us we just don't have the senses to to TuneIn and when you can for me at least it leaves open the door for who the f*** knows who knows man I just the fact that that's a thing there's a okay so this is a trip this is very trippy so I got this book called The Tibetan yoga of dream and sleep when you think you're awake and when you're dreaming and so basically ideas there isn't much of a difference there's like right now you're dreaming this thing you call your human Incarnation is a dream and you know like when people are dying 50s are in the 30s Warehouse whatever their lifetime which means it when you're dying you're going to like spin through time to meaning that this could be you time right now spinning backwards essentially like what it's like to have nobody but still have this like this basically like your karma your identity disorder propelling you through and that's how you like it get your next Incarnation so we're just being run it's like running a simulation of a pandemic or or maybe this is the way that like an AI gets polished like maybe we're an AI That's being like polished and taught through this process of having a limited Incarnation you got to have that he's going to tell you need that to train the thing up so it takes it seriously you have to put the setting on Mortal then you got did maybe you just run a series of tests on the saying you know you start run this what is this what if we made what is it doing a pandemic and buy it I mean the sum total of all humans which is right now disconnected it's like a malfunctioning brain or not connecting did every single moment in an individual's life and in a planet the planets that wife of History could be looked at as a training or an upgrade at this could be an operating system upgrade this could be what an operating system upgrade looks like in the bio-computer that we exist in it looks like a f****** pandemic and that's what's happening right now is we're being like upgraded for some reason even though it's terrifying and obviously horrific you know we're being upgraded and when you anyway the whole point is man this thing that were in right now whether or not there's a God we just by Thinking Atheist gets to lean into the idea that when they close their eyes and breathe their last breath it stops and I just think that's a big gamble man that's I mean actually die when you get really sick you already start waking up into your next life you just wait you just like go through a weird dream like State call the Bardo where you Freak the freak out and then you're suddenly alive and another being completely oblivious to whatever your past incarnations were and not to or in right now so and then you're suddenly alive and another being completely oblivious to whatever your past incarnations were and not to Orion right now so you know I don't know if this is a great time for people to start looking at that in one and preparing for that

play stories magic what do you mean by that so we write a great book called High magic which is called it's a fantastic book on Magic is really the wrong word for religion that guy send it now cuz of Hollywood is like you know ladies riding around on brooms and ship it it just needs to be used to be like healing women who would like deliver babies and stuff but these are roots and you can follow back this branch of or Egypt ways of connecting with the universe that are ritualistic in nature but see mysterious do us because even though like if you want to see what it looks like just look at a Catholic mass you're looking at a ceremony it's C or G I guess you'd call it that is a magical ceremony where red gets converted into the flash of a God that you eat so that they're all wearing robes magic someone in the Catholic Church might tell you this isn't Magic this is me praying to the infinite and asking for forgiveness that's magic intelligence you're hoping from your connection with the Divine intelligence to produce some change in your own psychology in your own life and maybe create good fortune or whatever it is you're praying for healing whatever it maybe that's my so magic is that and that it's I'm not saying the Catholic Catholicism would necessarily be considered a branch of Magic by one of the things he said this interview is like if the Bible is one of the most powerful magical grimoires there is I mean if you really look in it there's all kinds of bizarre stuff it doesn't seem to make it on the Christian radio why are they saying why do they refer to themselves as a plurality when God stalking it's not like if when they're saying like why do we throw Adam and Eve out of the garden it's we if we don't do something about this they will become like us we there's a plurality that's being mention there and so what is that plurality of angels The Book of Ezekiel hyper dimensional beings I have some data set they want to bring to the world quite often depending on what book you're in it some terrifying prophecy about the end of the world it's coming but sometimes it's you know some message of Hope or some message of healing so you could say magic is a non-Christian oriented method for connecting with those various entities using ritual that's now I'm not saying by the way these beings exist or don't exist but you could say if you wanted to get like a psychological you could say that we have buried inside of us bits archetypes bits of the collective that are buried deep inside of us and that their ways to connect to these little fragments of the collective mind and you know many people know that have their own method for doing that one of them to do that might be doing a ritual and infirm moment allowing yourself to imagine that you're trying to talk to an extradimensional be Aleister Crowley famously did one of these rituals and contacted a but it looks like a grey alien Aleister Crowley's in the 89s overweight girl with large breasts adjusting her halter top look like man let's cut the s*** that's we're going to look like right when you when you see people that are Harry and and and brutish you we think of them as being like closer to prehistoric man right to see a guy covered in hair he looks more like a beast and when we see people that are thinner and some more slender to become more more a gentle version of people and we associate that often times the intelligence we associate associate intelligence with Frailty right we all do that when you see some some Super Genius Guy usually their frail anytime transport yourself from one planet to the other imagine what we've done with our stupid monkey brains now imagine it was 150% larger 150% more brain and then Incorporated all sorts of f****** Electronics to let you interface with space-time around you and all kinds of other wacky ways of communicating we couldn't even possibly imagine now just like people from the 18 hundreds could never possibly imagine cell phone this is the idea is like okay we're going to go there and sit when we get there the way we understand space time is going to be different than the way we understand it now so what that means is theoretically you could connect or communicate with a being that is outside of space-time which is a future version of us right now using like various methods DMT being one of the big ones on the planet right now but also using they're a little bit more precise because of DMT it's kind of like you're not really putting a GPS coordinates necessarily some people do with intention like a shaman will do it like with intention and I can let you know excuse me can you give me another bloody Mary I can stop you always do this she gets drunk says she's leaving I'm a f****** leave you Clarence I'm going to f****** leave you son of a b**** magic is like ridiculous on one level is it absolutely sounds and is on one level on another level is at the very least a creative technique so that you can sort of summon a dream state while you're awake with the intent of causing some change in the world around you using for a lot of people would be considered a non-standard what we'll just in terms of your perception of how you view the world you can alter that pretty radically I mean from someone who has an amazingly positive action versus someone has an amazingly negative perception you look at the results right over overwhelming benefit of being a positive person overwhelming there's something to thoughts and ideas that Propel you in a good way and differ having a good architecture having a good philosophy having a good operating manual for how you view the world and how you act and behave part of that to getting up at 4 in the morning that's what that is you looking forcing your ability to sort of dictate the positive aspects of your future you're deciding to take action in your bond with the with the way you interface with current reality stuck out Christmas God damn if you want to meet me here I'll meet you here we could do some 5 a.m. sessions I mean yeah I would love that

it's the best driving right before the pandemic when there is still traffic driving around at 4 a.m. you're awake you're half-asleep also is I think it's easier to work out that early cuz your but whatever part of you resist that s*** is just like week go to careful lifting weights in the morning cuz you can get everything going they say that people lifting weights is not the best it'll lift like your personal record deadlift and s*** like that first thing in the morning just eat your body up and then you can go in there workout at 8:30 p.m. for me that's perfect cuz I'm just do it was like 8 at 8:30 it's like man I got plenty energy I've eaten all day you know it's like I'm not tired yet like going to bed tired but back then I was going to bed at like 2 in the morning every every night anyway but it was like 8:30 was perfect you have energy but but it's easy to do cuz you wake up at noon you know I'm just f****** stumble out of bed do whatever bulshit you have to do that day if my day off you know doing stand-up at night Victory a little bit of having accomplished that thing you've gotten up and then next thing you know you're doing chin-ups maybe you're doing is a d-ring notebook yeah I just started bringing my scared there to right and then I would just sit and write and spend so much time writing is that part of you that doesn't want to work out we'd rather right it's like when you have to write you find yourself cleaning don't you know 5:30 or whenever the f****** gym open and you're always listening to this like I started listening mm I was looking at Goggins so I'll be blasted listening to Goggins running on the f****** treadmill tell people exploding I got build up to it calf muscle back on with twigs and becomes a Navy SEAL is this a switch to that guy has a we all wish we had where he can he can power through but also he's a a beacon of inspiration like for other people when David Goggins does the s*** that he does and and when he has those speeches while he's running hell has like a hundred 4 degrees outside and it goes why you running end it already out there just he's constantly doing it like he's constantly pushing himself cuz I do I know when I see him like he's like running through glass he's running in like just running through like swarms of mosquitoes and just to show people look it doesn't part of you that's telling you that you can't do this because of EX in your environment is probably wrong not all the time but for sure man a lot of the time wrong powerful like I met of all the self-help books Listen to I listen to my audible that's the best one by floor hands down that's the best woman but cuz it's real it's not from a guy who really hasn't done anything just trying to get you motivated to go out there and Conquer in life it's from a guy who's actually done some really f****** crazy s*** and is telling you that you can do at 2 and then he used to be weak yeah he's doing something right now because Cameron Hanes chin up record so Goggins was at he was like when he put the video on his Instagram page but he was at some ungodly number of chin-ups when they're making the video is right it might even be like a two-day saying I don't know how many days are supposed to be doing this but it's some does he have it in there with Goggins is there a video of Goggins doing chin-ups I mean the story I'm not releasing any information that shouldn't get out alive again whatever anyway whatever anyway you want to see the show

you talk to her at the CDC. f****** interview ever of all the lights we didn't just miss it by like 5 minutes either we missed it by like 20 30 minutes at the airport and it was empty if you've never had a or provigil or Nuvigil isn't a real similar I don't remember which one I stay up all the time no that's what he go crazy that's you can use it for that like if you're a real crazy but like I know some people that use that s*** for writing the right on that chair and they feel like without it they don't feel like I have any energy sleeping for days at a time and go literally insane and somewhere in there they write really good stuff that's what you know Newsradio the Staffing Newsradio these to do that on purpose porcelain Paul Simms brilliant guy the guy who created Newsradio and he thought it would be a good idea to have a writing style fill with a bunch of psychos who were willing to play video games and stay up till 4 in the morning every night and I was like this mad Vagabond crew of writers assembled and they would play video games and just talk s*** and then they would start writing at like 2 a.m. sometimes but they would come up with these amazing script to the end scripture so ridiculous some of them were so ridiculous in this because they were Delirious whenever instead of doing drugs they were doing the drug of Stew staying awake dude this is for me I've disguised started doing this about six months ago or longer regardless of when I went to sleep I was having some insomnia and so I start I realize like s*** I'll just like wake up when I wake up and then wake me up 4 a.m. if you have insomnia that is going to cure your f****** insomnia because when night time rolls around you're exhausted but not only that 4 a.m. is like the great time for writing weird s*** still half-asleep and the stuff you write is it's like really feels like you're tripping you know especially waking up at 4 a.m. and then like eating weed I was doing that so you do eat weed first and then start writing system before the f****** apocalypse was and again I wasn't doing this every day if I did do it first because I got into David Goggins cuz I was at the gym not swear I'll drive you are there that early will know cuz it would open it I got there once before the gym open Savage no I didn't but then I went into the car and I like 30 minutes to blow and I'm f****** Stone man and I'm sitting there in the parking garage the goddamn Hollywood Equinox now let me tell you something man that area of Hollywood is already f****** weird I'm sitting there with my eyes closed kind of tripping feel like I'm half asleep half awake I look over there two dudes creeping up to my car window creeping up there and I'm like what the f*** I'm driving through the parking garage stoned definitely walking up to my car I'm like tripping like what the f*** f*** f*** I'm not going to work out until I leave I'm like what the f*** I'm going to let these two like 4 a.m. weird vampire stop me from working out so I drive back in one of them's like leaning up against a pillar like just staring at me creepy breaking right that's what it look for a m people that are out on meth and they know that this is assholes like to go to the gym and leave their s*** in their car I dare you got there you go it was terrifying but you know 4 to 5 a.m. is the funniest mix of people I'm going to write because that's when like I mean this is a new idea feel free to like that s*** again but like there's a there's an idea of Prana which is like energy in in there's more energy in the morning then there is at night so if you get up at 4 you're getting like that the purest most amount of this s*** so that's why a lot of people meditate it really early why like a lot of monks get up really early is because like it's now it's just a very it's the most psychedelic. I'm way more psychedelic then like midnight exerting some form of control over your life and usually it says go time or something along those lines discipline like my friend Jack always says discipline equals Freedom he gets up every morning for 30 photo of his watch on Instagram and usually says go time or something along those lines

anytime a f*****-up thing happens to you personally it's a chance to become a better piece of s*** or a little more angry or a little more tired or a little more depressed or to become a hero anything whatever it may be any bit of phenomena that comes your way as a person you know anytime I fight like any time something's really side am I going to react to this like I always react the shity things in like become negative or dark or get pissed or can I like react to it in a completely new way and I think every time you do a new way concept you pop into a different part of the Multiverse it's a little better than the one you were in before and it's like you can go on through the Multiverse towards a healthier version of me that I wasn't getting in shape I was actually being inhaled into a more in shape version of me that already exists it that's the kind of s*** I have to do to get myself to workout every time you do that sure is s*** it's not just you that starts changing you'll notice like other stuff starts changing to around you you know things just tended generally get better I think there's there's thoughts that I've had the real similar to that we're wondered like if if multiverses are real and they're supposed to be different versions of you infinite version all over the universe why are we assuming that this is the same everyday you wake up in the same version why we assuming that the thing about sleep is you just go away when you come back with a memory of what life was like before you went away and you wouldn't notice if it just slid you 1 knots to the right or one not to the left into the Multiverse it is an infinite number of Duncan's out there with ghillie suits and gas masks on yeah and you just slid over to the right by letting a little old lady front of you and not even complaining when she was driving 30 miles an hour it's all right she's nice lady I'm just get around a nice and slow and safe and wave to her in the more you do that you can like that's where all the sudden you start realizing like oh s*** oh s*** I'm going to Temple I'm not even in a in a reality that I thought I was in I was just liking a deep state of contempla to meditation maybe that's what we'll call our group convection which is being inhaled into the Christ so who when you start like a black hole as it happens you imagine you're the one doing this stuff to get you closer to a but really it's just your mind playing tricks on you have no choice you're going to be we're going to wake up you're going to gain realization and in so as that's happening you kind of like you can quit something you can quit drinking you can quit smoking but you kind of long for it but then sometimes you noticed you just stop doing s*** was bad for you because you found a better way to live pause of whack. Convection you're being drawn into the Divine mine is it is that happens that s*** that looks like austerity when you're like further away begins to actually just be a natural way that you act you just become naturally more graceful naturally less inclined to do shity things naturally more tuned in with like the hundred fifty year old version of you you know that that he sort of naturally it's naturally more tuned in with like the hundred fifty year old version of you you know that that he sort of naturally and that just happens on its own cuz you were being infected into the Christ sucked into the Omega point the divine

question is where do your ideas come from exactly and if you're picking up whatever these creatures are and you've been blessed enough to get them yeah you should write them down and it's kind of like I mean not that I don't think of it like down to earth so silly man is a very down-to-earth person but his perspective on the concept of the music is is very beneficial if you follow it cuz his perspective is essentially that you pay an honor to this thing show up when you do the work like a professional and then it responds and turn it comes to you and then these are what it's like we think of an idea even though it's one of the most important factors in the entire construction of civilization but somehow or another we don't think of it is that we think of people being that we are because book we were being used by ideas I know that sounds crazy I really do I know it sounds dumb to but you are you're coming up with these thoughts and we're thinking of them is like random connections that you're making your brain which might be it might be that but it also be that ideas are like a life-form From Another Dimension is trying to manifest itself in our current realm and they do so through getting into people's heads in the more you call for them the more they are for you no more you show up and you can call that the Muse you can call it whatever you want until it was getting signals from some other some other again what did Tesla like Tesla had a take on receiving information from other galaxies had to take on where I did some some of his inventions were coming from so I kept quiet source of some of the Transmissions that he would receive I mean God damn it yeah bring them back everybody you create an AI Tesla I think a lot of people have that feeling and some of them just don't come out of the closet so to speak with it because they're afraid they're going to get judge ostracized I think a lot of people feel like they have a direct contact with some kind of sentience that isn't embodied inside of them and it's giving them ideas and they're just terrified to put it out to the world because it sounds like you're f*** is claims receiving signals from outer space were proven right a century later Tesla set up a field laboratory in Colorado Springs Colorado deposit to the possibilities of using high-altitude stations to transmit information and electric power over long distances one July he's getting radio signals from other planets after the ruling out I think this is about to send the ruling out solar and terrestrial causes he conclude the signals must be from another planet solar and terrestrial causes include the signals must be from another planet the following Christmas response to the American Red Cross request for a prediction greatest scientific achievement of the coming Century Tesla wrote brethren we have a message from another world unknown and remote it real it reads 123 in 1996 scientist Publix Publix to study replicating Tesla's experiment and showing that the signal was in fact caused by the moon low passing through Jupiter's magnetic field holyfuck he was picking up a moon passing through Jupiter magnetic field in contact with for sure wandering around trying to figure out how to send electricity through the sky the creator of your ideas to believe that you're an antenna maybe that's what makes a person intelligent maybe that's all it takes it. And discipline that you need to know to be able to study and actually Implement their technology so I think he was a genius and he was probably Visionary that way like Elon has he had an extra large magnet for ideas yeah yeah strongman I'm so glad anytime you give me weed I'm always forget how strong it is and every time I got to be careful. I think so yeah absolutely

all right this thing Netflix I told him I just called mint it's called The Midnight gospel the midnight gospel with Duncan Trussell in Pendleton Ward the guy who made Adventure do you know that is he was like in the group of kids who got accused of murdering someone in the woods there's a whole know oh yeah there's like a whole documentary about him I think HBO it's like basically executed he's on death row studying Zen Buddhism like Zen priest was working with him to like basically like it you know preparing for his you know soon as he was badly beaten on death row he was almost executed then he was exonerated before we start this does he get do they have to pay him the great question I think maybe part of it that they may not want to say cuz I've no idea well I know a man is going to cost you your life really didn't do it eventually that makes its way to the United States through the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn which was the order that Curly was a member of before you know when off to the Oto you had MacGregor Mathers Dion Fortune the poet WB Yeats all these people were members of the Golden Dawn that's how this current makes its way to the US and that's my last offer all right it taken place out of my minnows mouth but fine forward is send them over really really really cool to get the dick just taking a combination of your podcast and then some interstitial stuff that like that you is like scripted where people use Multiverse simulators to simulate universes so that they go inside and harvested and sell it and so my character has a malfunctioning used Multiverse simulator that isn't really working to produce technology and because it's malfunctioning every single world and it is going through some kind of Apocalypse until my character goes into his simulator and interviews people and they were in the Dying World what can happen if people are going to do podcast people are going to still have conversations so these conversations we just set them in these surreal universes where schitts melting down and you know where like Clancy meets these various people kind of learned from them within crazy as you started this whole long time ago and it's coming to fruition right when the apocalypse hits yeah I mean it's like it it's almost like it's almost like you knew someone like you had a type and then the universe was like this is a perfect time for Duncan s*** to come out and what's inside it I mean look at just look at how bizarre your show is strange and then the fact that it's a hybrid of podcast conversations and then written stuff so strange I think it is a perfect time for it and I hope I could some of the like every guess we was we chose for this they all had this like really like amazing thing to say like echoes in this episode one of the things he says you know I asked him like do you feel like you kind of like we're blessed that you ended up in solitary confinement in this when he's he says like I feel luckier than some Millennials out there right now who are like completely disconnected cuz that's the coolest thing about him as you would expect a person who's been on death row to be bitter sweetest most genuine wonderful person ever and it's like whatever went on in the situation of being on the brink of the Abyss where is about to get murdered by the state somebody didn't do something about that didn't turn him into someone who is like Shell Shocked or angry but like really turned him into like someone very compassionate and I guess grateful for his life you know not to me like it's not bitter after being on death row for something you didn't do and like getting physically assaulted wondering every day if you were going to die if what you can still maintain an attitude of service or contribution to society in some way or another than any of us can any of us can you know like any of his can I think that's from the show end of the world right now especially man cerveza contribution to society in some way or another than any of us can any of us can you know like any of his kin to me that's like I think that's I hope some of that stuff from the show end of the world right now especially man

I would think that for a guy like you who's building cars away your building on the real challenge would be staff I think that would be the real challenge is finding people to understand what you're doing finding fellow Artisans that also understand how to build cars there really get why you doing that and I love the state of California but they do not want me here now so they don't want me business they don't want anyone in California making anything except maybe solar assisted bicycles a did the business climate in the state of California and the associated HR cost and in insurance and workman's comp and liabilities like every couple weeks there's another absurd ruling that we get an update on that like wait what is like you mean to tell me if I catch a dude smoking crack while on the clock stealing my inventory I can't fire his ass on the spot what if you do you have to give him a pay at the time of letting him go and you can't make him sign anything that indemnifies nor protects you have to put them on probation and offer therapy and resources such as of safety of policy of company good like it has gotten so bad from the building inspector came by and he's like yeah you know those those Automotive lifts in your building and like yeah yeah I have 30 days to remove all those what thank you that was pretty much my response because yeah not my problem what about the last nine years of inspectors coming in all the time so you guys have the cleanest most professional aboveboard shop Kick-Ass well done thank you so much for making my life good because the other idiots on the new inspector so the new inspector says you're not licensed I'm not zoned appropriately to be in business where I'm at despite having permits and everything for did they change the zoning I don't know what the hell happened other than this new guy seems to be a prick and wanting to show his value what's his name actually don't remember but I literally at every turn it's killing me in like I'm a piece of s*** I think at this point to the amount of cost related per employee should be going to my employees not to insurance companies and all this b******* that gets tagged on top it's like for every dollar you pay someone now there's another $0.32 that should be going to them that's going to suck force you to work on these cars oh I can fight or you going to have to have someone I allowed to lawyer up and we're fighting it but I mean literally I honestly think they'd rather have a commercial weed facility in that building kicking out a hell of lot more tax revenue than us really you think that's what they're doing it to make it challenging for you to do business so that you quit yes and just about any small business owner I know in the state of California to challenges were facing or getting to the point of making us wonder about Iran intellect for staying in the state I don't know if you lose this you know if it gets the point that we we have to owe you mean this building situation ring phones and dig through my black book to find people with the clout to get the city to go see what's going on I think so and at first it seemed like you chilled out when we went above them and then everything was good and then a week later bubble back up again we got another notice so we're in the middle of it right now but you went above his head and you got to prove verbal crazy but look at the end of the day the reality is also I'm going against what trade schools are telling young kids that are going into the field what are they telling kids they're telling kids that here if you run the scan tool you'll be you'll make 150 Grand a year as a lead tech at a BMW dealership what they're not telling these kids while sucking other money out of them with crazy you know student loans and stuff is yeah that's like the kids in the street and Brazil all wanting to grow up to be Pele there's not that many Pele so there's plenty of dude that that dealership that are making minimum wage or thereabouts or dealing with the politics of flag hours or whatever but what would I'm having a hard time with his we charge $100 an hour for our labor I can't just keep charging more and more and more its level of what we do with projects that can run thousands of hours per job the math is it almost doesn't make sense like I honestly have guys that I think should be I should be 70 80 90 100 Grand a year to do what they do cuz they're artists and they deserve it the b******* of running a business in California all of the exponential cost there added on top theevandi incentivize overtime if I give a dude overtime it UPS his tax rate and they take even more out of the overtime will his whatever happened like GDP and employment and productivity and like keeping everything rolling their D incentivizing us even to offer our employ more money with more hours it's it's tragic and I have lost several guys now that have gone to do job that they hate but like Department of Water and Power I've lost several employees at DWP cuz though they get a pension that get killer Healthcare they get 90 grand a year to pick their nose and watch other people work sucks what is this is this a Democrat thing I think it might be the ringside of democratic because I am I think they'll do whatever they want to party systems is shitshow is it is anyway I don't think it's about which party so much as I think we've empowered attorneys to such an extent that it it says it's downright sinful because it's hindering industry it's hindering Innovation there's just so many constrictions cuz everyone has their hand out no one's no one's self accountable but everyone is liable I need a policy for that when we had a we had an employee wants to us he jumped in a dumpster to stomp on everything to compress it in the dumpster it started moving across the ramp parking lot and he jumped out of it clipped his leg on the way down and shattered his arm and forth but he sued me is like well it's not in your job description did someone tell you to jump in the dumpster and stomp on it military but it's my problem like what people whatever happened to like be proud of what you do be respected be well-paid everyone's contend everyone's like inspired him engaged and I just feel like more and more there's just so much noise and liars and policies all this crap plus eilers sublets and everything else but it's it's hard to retain people when when we we know we can't pay them what they're worth in this business environment I have a really hard time with the whole crack thing catching someone stealing smoking crack and you can't fire him that seems so strange have to give him a week's worth of money on the spot on the spot I need to be square by doing that but I generally like my back and my little leather studio and sell s*** on Instagram simplify life me and my wife and my dogs dealing with that'll shitshow you want to talk about something that puts everything in perspective you know we really made a stop and sit back and go okay that doesn't f****** matter like a lot of the b******* a lot of the noise in our modern world does not matter doesn't mean f****** thing so that kind of reinvigorated but also refresh my perspective to remind myself if someone's panties are in there not because their eyes been in storage for 6 months and then plug it into the tender in the battery is dead and they want to call and yell at me about it but I really like give me your bank info I'll send you your money back what is a lot of silly people out there for sure but it's just weird when they're empowered by the government when you don't have common-sense approach to Knuckleheads you know if you got a guy smoking crack and stealing things you're not supposed to reward that kind of behavior with a week's paycheck people there for sure but it's just weird when they are empowered by the government do you know when you don't have common-sense approach to Knuckleheads you know if you got a guy smoking crack and stealing things you're not supposed to reward that kind of behavior with a week's paycheck

do you remember that early Ford cars did the early Ford cars were made with hemp all of his fenders and everything were made with happiness a video of him taking a hammer and a sledge and bang it off the fenders and it shows you the insane durability that have fibers have ever seen that production right I think that was a war a couple of them still exist but I think it was the 37th or it was a 61 maybe T-bird was the newest and there was a third one that the entire body is made out of stainless and there's a so if I can tempt it yet so the entire body is clear like you see through the doors with the window regulator is the lock solenoid there any it is so badass and it's sold for what didn't seem like it was like prototype I think it was know that what is the company lotus lotus developed a hemp fiber car they did like an anniversary one of their what is it STD or whatever the f*** it is play it cracked and proved not to be viable so I'm never made it passed yet but it was in your man cave just like for your city trash cans and stuff in the durability the life cycles and everything were epic and I was thinking for a while I how badass would it be invested all the money in the platform of the vehicular engineering and then make the body literally by Design almost disposable so when it's at the end of its life cycle literally could turn into mulch and go in the ground and you totally neutral more interesting Lemoore liberating it for a consumer and a designer like let's say that same platform you had you could I'd like between buggy style like I'm going to take it out to the desert and we're going to go elk hunting or whatever the hell you're going to do that weekend right anyone like a buggy truggy style or you know we're doing construction at the house we're going to use it for you know hauling soil or whatever she could have like modular bodies and different applications use them the same platform but I'll buy a derivative materials I think I'd be super cool Lotus didn't make another hemp body car Gina Corvette still use plexiglass fiberglass but hemp is far superior it is Corvette but make all the panels redo them and hemp fiber hate to say it but you're going up against the petrochemical industry for you that big of a deal like they would come after you feel like if you took all the body panels off by the way would probably so much stronger if you watch the video of give me to find that video of Henry Ford banging the hammer off of reading about right now it might not have been what was like he lied he didn't lie to visit people that putting out the video live I guess some hemp in there but it wasn't his binder maybe it wasn't even 50% who doesn't know that looks like like a piece of Oak like it looks like it looks like a really kicking me feel it's really hard but it's really light it's the weirdest plant-like if I don't have you ever held a piece of hemp Hemp stock it's like an alien planet doesn't seem to make any sense down the center was clear coat so you could see the actual hemp fiber in the in the Lotus but no one's ever done anything I mean they still make Corvettes out of plastic I'm still making them out of fiberglass I would think that that would be like a real straightforward approach especially now that hemp is legalized and you can grow it in the United States and in Most states I think it's federally legal threat federally legal for my leather goods like this jacket is all hemp threat real super strong is all the clear coat natural hemp fiber is made out of hemp

derelict programme and I was like many things to my life started just from a stupid passionate idea like I did never never considered a business model of doing it it was just okay I've got two young kids I've got two Labs I like to do this I like to do that what do I want is my next car and let you know what I'm tired of over restoring s*** cuz that's like the pissing it whatever like I don't do that guy anymore so I think I like to find something that's already f***** up I'm just going to leave it looking all f***** up so I don't even I hate putting gas in it so with the derelicts all you do is clean the windows and vacuumed it a best party on then then I just put a massive gas tank so my old 52 DeSoto station wagon was the first derelict that I build a hundred percent myself nights and weekends just because I had this stupid idea and I wanted I realize it wasn't until it was done and it got back to cover a Hotrod and one of these awards that my dumbass went a different way of doing it pretty wild array of them and have a bunch of your first one was for you in the first place most people who you know high-dollar restoration you know are quote restomods or whatever you want to call them everyone wants them to be beautiful and pristine with you no handles that the disappear you know I mean that everybody wants to shave everything down and a lot of the original character of the design that they're supposed to be celebrating in the first place so that compounded by patina which tells a more personal story of like where's this car been how to get that Ding there's like romance and mystery all wrapped into one as far as the history behind all those finishes, how big is the gas tank on this thing miles to the gallon is a full emissions equipped modern SRT8 Hemi 6.1 and it'll get six builds that is the fastest and most fuel efficient of the Hemi build I've ever done I mean I think it's probably 15 first you were Mopar trannies which Phillip Builders avoid them they suck if you add even like 5 horsepower beyond the stock motor app they completely shut themselves so the third time I'm like that's it I'm done pulled a Band-Aid off throw that thing away and put a good old GM for early 5e in there so this thing has how many miles on it now fun fun ride but you know you going all the way back to the beginning of Icon even further back to the beginning of the first brand TLC they all started with personal cars like the icon idea was just another dumb idea that was rattling in my head was literally keeping me up at night and it got to the point that I need in this happens to me often like what you know what I did my watch and then all the different products that I've designed General start with something that gets to the point that I'll lose my remaining sanity if I don't actually create it inside the concept for Icon I could see it clearly in my head I had like a full-on 3D detailed model in my head and like my version of jumping over Sheeps at night in bed with like sitting there and zooming in on an element and changing that radius and scaling this trying that and it literally got the point YouTube because so many people on YouTube are interested and unique Builds an interesting companies are doing cool things like brev ology but your company particular it's so perfect because you do all those videos and you drive around the cars with this incredible detail and that's one of the first things you got me very attracted to your company was the fact like I go look at this m*********** he's so balls deep into this s*** so contagious though when someone's like really into something particular design and production and I totally agree and then like if you're not totally into it and you're not balls deep into it then pull out and zip up and go home shut up like to know that you do something else if you're not passionate about it you suck at it when someone's like really into something particular design and production and I totally agree and then like if you're not totally into it and you're not balls deep into it then pull out and zip up and go home shut up like to know that you do something else if you're not passionate about it you you suck at it

Just One More Story well-being but they're also speaks to like what the kind of stuff that you do I mean people like things that are crafted by artisans in I mean I love that major seeing that Revival right in the last years is just growing and growing and growing and slope with each other there's something about like when I drive your Bronco first of all I really like you cuz I love the fact that I'm driving Rock and then to I feel like it's a piece of art I feel like you know how I look at it highly functioning sculptures enter send the backseat the noise coming out of that third Point shoulder seat belt retractor is so unacceptable over modern car scanner is hitting your outboard ear and I'm like the whole witch baby at the retractors pulses next time you choose to drive you sit in the backseat let Mom and drive and report back years ago I developed the concept that I called the halios and if you ever saw that so I love like design challenges I like framing things right so I was like all right let's do a revisionist history approach to car design so what if electric cars had remained predominant in the late eighteen hundreds early 1910s what if we had taken inspiration from aircraft design a couple decades prior to when the industry actually did and then what if after he did the experimental plane the H2 I think it was what is Howard Hughes at settingdown and like he couldn't get that last Starlet to to go out with him right before he lost his mind completely what if he Buckminster Fuller and Gordon. Sat down and did a napkin sketch after too many martinis what would that car look like so that was my stupid Paula questions around which I framed my design designed it to work on the at the time and P85 platform and basically they received the copy of a letter that's titled like peanut butter and chocolate that was written by elon's core engineering team begging him to allow them to support me to do the built-in like since day one support we're because there's super shity about any repurpose turkey Shore Drive Teslas and Eli never address to visit major games think honestly I think dude it rich and due to the community that grows up around him that s*** been hacked now now people can open source hack the can data chain and people are repurposing Tesla component like I used Tesla batteries but I've been using their Motors are planetaries everything else cuz again what do I tell my client when the client needs an update or a part you go to the event but yeah like TV in fact has his new setup that they just started marketing where you literally take that IRS a part where the electric motors built-in there's little access to our you pull out a little circuit board you put in another one and voila is there an app that up like crate engines where you know or do you envision to set up where because you know you know that the new Hummers now going to be an electric vehicle which is really interesting and there's going to be a weather electric vehicles are coming out from Volkswagen that are really cheap and I'll buy a bunch of different companies are jumping in Univision there being some sort of a crate engine option for people that night so I do I do and I think there should be now proof in the pudding to this point is that everyone's focusing on the do-it-yourself Market therefore also on the cheapest possible equation which leaves a lot of in my opinion a lot of safety issues completely unaddressed and they can get down so the other issue is there all for ease of installation and conversion everyone's thinking about doing kits that literally re a spud plate in the short shaft to go where the engine used to be put an electric motor to a bellhousing adapter to the stock transmission which is stupid because electric cars going through manual transmissions there's a lot of Scavenging of energy it's bad enough to go through ring and pinion doing a right angle gear displacement of power efficiency and the best TVs in my opinion or transmission list or go through planetary said you know for gear reduction like that the Merc is the to my knowledge of the first for the retrofit TV that you know I'd being the goober that I am like I was like okay we've done a couple of you build but if we're going to keep doing them like and it exists how long do it take for a little bit over four years are infinitely better than had on I'm so proud of the valley retention in my vehicles and I'm proud of our foundation of taking something that in essence a lot of people would think is at the end of its already usable life cycle and upcycling it and breathing you like so it's good to go for decades again but now with Evie stuff is moving so quickly that am I like making iPhones all the sudden sore to years it's totally worthless right is the exponential growth and Improvement it just makes like no one wants an iPhone one so look at you no internal combustion engine development Cycles what I put in today is still relevant in a decade but with with electric it's a whole new space to consider management Electronics they just at PRI and it seemed made a fair bit annoyed about coming with a full array of EV retrofit conversion system so these seem to be the first ones entering the field that are going to offer a comprehensive Suite of products and solutions but then again being that it's part of this industry you know I go girl that dudes at their trade show booth and they're like well it's something we're working on it has all these press releases and all that the kennel. I think I might I trust it will come out but when you see Elon coming out with some like that new Roadster is going to have a 600-mile range that is when things get really interesting that you noted earlier that they were going to make the platform shareable and they're going to make it available to many different manufacturers large and small and I've heard stories like that over the years from you name it from Ferriday was claiming the same thing bulshit cuz now it's it's like I don't want to see vaporware but it's it's so much of that like VC money don't worry will be profitable one day and we're worth a billion multiple of nothing today so Buy in and then it's like so many of these EV startups and retrofit companies come to the scene looking for that elusive the FedEx Fleet contract that everyone thinks going to be easy to get and none of them get it and then they all go belly-up we're not only is the tech moving forward so quickly and not only that but the likes of brown and Lee only do two Tesla it's proven the viability in the market now there's purist and traditionalists and everyone's starting to poke at it and I see exponential more interest so I think you know for the next 5 years or so it's going to be a bit tumultuous but I definitely think it's the future of hot rodding II I imagine within 5 years I imagine half of my client Bilby electric wow that's a big that's a big statement have you seen there's a 68 Porsche 911 that has a Tesla engine in it very interesting when they do stuff like that the old cars but it is so many guys springing up out of the woodwork Nationwide to various levels of price expectation range expectation Etc but I think that's a really it's it's a lovely Community to I've noticed it's much more open than the conventional Automotive Community is about sharing information and suppliers and knowledge and helping one another and it's if there's a really nice camaraderie within that Community there's like movement Motors Austin's doing really nice retrofitz and Evie West has been around forever there really the Granddaddy's on the scene and early GTV Alfa they've done all sorts of different like pretty cool diverse range of platforms and then of course the electric down in Orange County that start out doing dogsnow the bugs in the buses and now 911 and it's like there's such a large and welcoming kind cool community of people in Dead Space easy you know you look for the Tesla superchargers are all over the place to press a button on your screen and it shows you where they are at all navigate you to them when you try to get one of those you can't charge a regular car to Tesla super station can you know and there's different so there's this standard I forget the anacreon week Rich the J blah blah blah connector but there's a standard Municipal connector in the news also the new fast-charge network but it depends on where you live but for example round here it's a joke so like I have a nap when I'm driving that 49 Merc and you know I was speaking at Barrett-Jackson and they're in town for a while I was visiting and then you networked apps and you find it but when we made that one supercharger compatible because the clients can install on in his house and the system otherwise public Tesla charger it has to do a handshake and it says no you may not charge here so you can have it supercharger compatible flick I have one of the wall back there so it would work yes that's my understanding but not a public installation those have to go through a whole handshake protocol getting plates like member in the Gadda on the play so that has the one interface connector and then the other one I machine this unnecessarily groovies for the gas cap under the original fuel door on the Merc and then that's for the other style charger so do you also you can charge it with different ones charger and then there's just two different pigtail adapters you can go either way with it do you anticipate up in the range on that thing do you think that someday you'll swap the battery is out indefinitely I think the reality is any EV project I build I have to not only do I anticipate but like I've lost many client because I'll be super blunt about making managing their expectations that look you're going to spend a lot of money to have the best of the state of the that is available to us but in a year that might all be garbage do you have to understand either you're cool with this moment in time and the range in the performance it is what it is or you're a techie like most guys that are engaging in that and you're going to be hemorrhaging money then coming back every couple years for us to upgrade and evolve as the Sciences of all the electrical Network 202 single-dose Tech 26 pin connectors Aerospace connectors so one day when that powertrain is no longer relevant but your truck still has good platform value unplugged that yank it out and put in the hydrogen or the micro capacitor or whatever the hell is working at the time

you ever conceived a possibility of coming up with something that removes carbon from the atmosphere giant issue with us right right commissions so definitely I believe negative emissions has to kind of keep the warming in in in check it's a much more difficult problem. if you think of the ocean it's it's fitting that the two dimensional problem it's the plastic on the surface and fortunately it's not even the whole ocean it's kind of concentrating in these accumulation zone so the garbage patch that's twice the size of Texas it's still 1.6 million square kilometers while the ocean is 300% of the ocean atmosphere is three-dimensional so it's just as one-dimensional increases just think it needs to be like oh it's definitely exciting for him to think about I do think that's definitely that's not a good starter problem to to work on no one talked about where they had figured out a way to make these king size Century vacuum cleaners they were going to put in the center of certain cities I believe it was in Asia maybe perhaps China they come up with this and I don't know if they implemented yeah but the idea was to have these enormous things a place that look like a skyscraper and really it was just a huge vacuum cleaner for car but here is one good smart people are are working on that problem not sure where they are in terms of the economics and sit right here this one giant for are the same way of filters for water direct air capture technology carbon engineering 10 years in the making of can capture carbon dioxide directly from the atmosphere on what that thing looks like it looks like giant f****** washing machines at right like it's washing the air wow structures and how many buildings are in there you know the people can make some pretty and Saints yet why could they make some giant insane vacuum cleaner for the air that's as big as a city block of course I love it comes down to economics or our system is not very good at evaluating things that are long-term directly benefit ourselves so so definitely people tax it will find a way to make it profitable just another one of what one would look like to capture billion tons of CO2 per year a of fans and then burn it that would be a great business model just be like a green diamond I had a diamond it's actually made and it's all pressured by solar power the solar power to f****** smash it there's many many forms in which carbon exists now so I know they are supposed they are doing that now they are making commercially made diamonds diamonds made of carbon so the form as carbon atoms under a high temperature and pressure they bond together to start growing crystals that's why I Diamond such a hard material because you have each carbon atom participating in four of these very strong covalent bonds that form between carbon atom read that word out loud Colville have you ever heard that word out loud that form between carbon atoms so they know they're doing they're making diamonds with certain machines high pressure if they did that would be hilarious that would be a good thing too because they would put a dent in the actual Diamond strange Market is diamonds aren't nearly as valuable as theirs Abita beers takes these diamonds and they stockpile I'm an alien release a certain amount of them they keep the price very high but Saul engineered the profit League diamonds used to be far more rare than they are now but with the innovation in mining technology and their ability to get to Diamonds they couldn't get to before they have a lot of times it's not as valuable as it appears when you go to buy one so we can make carbon against Alex Darin chainsaw Diamond imagine like if you like a really ecologically minded rapper you wear out all your ice could come from the ocean let everybody know from Trash to Treasure yes dude that the Bucking that's that the signature the company in quotes from Trash to Treasure these things dad bullion diamonds how about that death dude you can be the first guy to do this here we go plastic versus an ocean diamond is crushing the ocean into salty diamonds that's a dope looking Diamond two deposits in a high-pressure high-temperature experiment suggesting that many of Earth diamonds formed when the mantle crushes Ancient seabed Minerals Diamond deposits in a high-pressure high-temperature experiment suggesting that many of Earth diamonds formed when the mantle crushes Ancient seabed Minerals

I mean if you do get to do this here's another problem okay here's it is a big one for the ocean we are depleting it up Seafood a flight from you know I had how do you say his name again so hilarious right Louis Savoy us who directed The Cove on Den we were talking about the deplenishing deplenishing on the wildlife in the in the ocean and when you start looking at it on a grand scale like how much fish they're pulling out of the ocean to 3 so bring you know maybe you can come up way to replenish fish in the ocean so we can continue eating sushi while you're so of course over the past 200 years Humanity has made tremendous progress since Agricultural Revolution 10,000 years ago UNC has been kind of stagnant no progress or just very very slow progress number of people life span it was all kind of flat nothing really happened and then since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution and when we learnt how to utilize science and knowledge Collective knowledge to to turn that into progress every possible metric for Humanity has improved tremendously in if you think of wealth Health violence education rights all these things that I know you that Steven Pinker on the is much more knowledgeable than I am truly at this point in time to be alive today but we have made tremendous progress by one hand measuring think the inventing Technologies and also Eventing institutions and on the other hand to collaborate effectively in large numbers which includes the corporation which is very effective way for people to work together now all that progress has always has also had negative side effects which must pronounce of course in the area of the environment where we put things into an environment that shouldn't be long there and we take too much out of its then nitrogen replenish which includes efficient on the other hand you have the plastic going into the environment Etc so how do we solve that and one hand is to say okay negative way to to phrase about the reactionary approach of saying okay we should consume less of corporations are bad Technologies bad we should all get rid of all those things and everything was great to live in harmony with nature so let's get rid of all this modernity and try and return to that pure original what I however belief that first of all let's I don't think it's a realistic thing people want to keep their iPhones and their cars and people want to move forward and at the same time I don't think it's pretty the most effective way to to solve these problems because it would be like fighting a leopard tank with the bow and arrow don't use that power to also try and solve these these these these problems as well so rather than trying to reject business rejecting on G I truly believe that we should embrace those those forces that make a human and has created this amazing Walt to also try and solve these these negative side effects as well and that's why I believe now the over cuz jumped over cuz I'm sheriff station not going to end by people all becoming vegan but rather through fake Meats I think that's the transport emissions are not going to be solved by people not flying anymore or not going anywhere anymore realistically people are going to fly more so you better event technologies that allow people to do that without harming the environment and the same thing I think it would be the Case 444 for plastic and Sandra Lee other energy uses as well. I think that's very wise way of looking at it and it's the hopeful way of looking at it it's funny that today kind of Haven it though you're you're you're dealing with the statistics and factual information like the fact that is a safer to live today there's less violent crime it's easier to get by this more technology more Innovation medical technology has improved dramatically all these things are true be still have to say it's not what we wanted to be there when I'm not saying the world even though you're don't worry about people barking at you so worried about pee with Bill terrible and parts of the world it's got terrible for the people of color it's still terrible but Transit still no one saying that there's not room for improvement but you have to say that like you even though you felt compelled you like it's still not perfect and I wonder why it's important to learn from the things that we do well and then I don't think it is. Controversial I think it's a trick that I think there's just a lot of people looking for every single opportunity to complain even if someone like you who writes an object Ali done nothing but good you say one thing like I mean Steven Pinker Took a ton of heat were saying that and even though he's talking about actual scientific statistics usual just not saying the world's perfect and everyone should shut up what he's saying is we should look at this you know from a bird's-eye view look down understand it at all though there's much work to be done wearing a great place in comparison to rest of human history and it's it's helpful to realize that progress is possible just that every there's something that's feels intuitively rights as if every step forwards would also have to equal a step backward elsewhere and I don't think that's the case there's plenty of things that you can invent that are not that cycling that we see it for something with with carbon right now that it's countries where Sweden GDP has grown a lot last 20 years carbon emissions has come down so they call that the decoupling and I think once we need the the main challenges in this century is to decouple human progress from from those negative side effects and I think the way to do that is not reactionary it's really again train Ovation and through to collaboration I agree with you and I think that a lot of times people just assume that this is the consequences of innovation if there's a pro and a con and everything because there has been so many things there have been so many things are inventions that were there are pro Anaconda but that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be that way if that would be the case all the technology and everything else you would be neutral and I wouldn't it wouldn't matter what your events but it would mean that an atomic bomb is morally as neutral as an ocean cleanup system which I just don't find possible so I don't believe that inventors entrepreneurs they put certain morality into their Creations into their technology there is there is a certain use that you prescribed with the revention when you don't use nuclear bombs to wash your car right away you use it not for benign uses unless maybe you want to terraform Mars switch some people propose to do with Tommy bumps I don't know what this is but cosequin consistently develop net positive Technologies eventually get better and better if say to 60% goods and maybe has 40% downside and okay but then we can invent a solution for that 40% and maybe that's again net positive and you can't get this this Cascade of improving more people thought the way you're thinking I think the world be a better place I like the the positivity I like the optimism and what you're thinking in terms of the particular in terms of what's what's possible with Innovation but I just don't think that being against something is very productive protesting against the things that I don't agree with there so many things I don't agree with but I don't think it's very helpful are then doing that are built towards the future that I do agree with you listen man I think what you're saying is very very logical I wish more people sound like you you're a great role model for a lot of kids to use your energy in a positive direction and if it can be done very very logical I wish more people sound like you you're a great role model for a lot of kids to use your energy in a positive direction and if it can be done

apartment the airport when I see like like a drug-sniffing working dog but it's like a yellow lab I'm like Norco yellow lab I don't I don't I don't want to ruin the dog in his chances at retirement you could ruin it cuz I'm like what are they looking for truth but you can only teach a dog to look for one thing you know you can't Trae the Truth the truth guns and Coke residue or like what do you smell like what are you what are you training you do not train the dog smell heroin and mushrooms bring them back right scription drugs like that's more like it ravages of community and I don't think I like airplanes I think like weight being pushed through from other country but I don't know I think it's all things meth is everything it's the really f*****-up part about it is it's almost like we were talking about football that football be safer if there was no helmets it doesn't make sense to be safer if they were friends state-issued if you apply for funding for support you're going to school like alone or the States paying free to go to school you go scholarship you cannot be able to apply for a state-issued prostitute if you are a little socially awkward maybe you haven't had sex because men get weird if they haven't been made privy to the way a woman is or they haven't had sex and going to college let's get you a prostitute let's get you having sex twice a week so you're not afraid of women let's get you a little less weird let's find a prostitute well thank you for didn't have the social stigma behind it there's a lot of people that would choose it over working at Wendy's lot of people to choose what we have an issue with my body that's what's upsetting but it's also if someone is doing that maybe maybe they are a sex slave like maybe there's someone who's I think that's what to do with the puritanical idea of things that they were accusing Robert Kraft of remember Robert Kraft guy who owns the crofter craps crap on the New England Patriots what was that it was that he was participating somehow and sex trafficking and so they were accusing him of that they were that was a big part of what the police were saying what turned out that none of the girls that work there were sex traffickers there just prostitutes and the woman that did it to him she was like 40 years there was a new store where they used a buzzword yes it's very specific in terms of like the difference in the consequences that you would want someone to face whether they just went there to get your dog or they participate in sex slave so that is part of the issue but I do know that if you take away the stigma and you can normalize things very quickly weed is a great example right you could do that and even we've done this with women and bodies in the way that we look at people who are overweight and we look at people with different things like we are getting to a place where it's less of a thing I think it was prostitution look at it as like this is her choice and if there if there wasn't an exception for it any other way except when money is involved that's where I have a problem with it but it's it's it's not even that it's it's a it's a societal position because they don't want their daughter or sister or mother to be a prostitute that's it that's all or them didn't want to be a prostitute that's why they would vote on it but this the only thing that's completely legal to do like not only that but it's what cells are it is f****** selling cologne he sounded I'm a hot man if you if you get my clothes you might get some p**** and looking right at that mouth as many people as she wants for free charges then also like what the fuc when it comes to the idea of a woman taking control of her own body no taxes being paid and the idea of someone being a w**** because of our puritanical roots in this country all those things combined make it a volatile topic but at the end of the day if she's going to make money that's going to go back into your Society that's going to be put to good use of going to be tax is going to be in your community what do you care what she's doing behind closed doors that is safe and it's regulated just like we'd all of a sudden their standards now it was a way to sanitize this I think so and they didn't Australia they didn't Nevada minutes full on there you could do whatever you want they have they have brothels but I think it's also one of the things that we're conditioned to have a perspective on it's similar to the drug issue like I don't want my friends or my daughters or my mother or anyone I know to be a prostitute so we have this like this position on it I also don't want them do Coke but I don't think Coke should be illegal I don't I don't think anybody should do a lock you in a cage cuz you want to get coked up imagine if it were legal how many less people would be dying just in a drug trade yes and how many more people would be aware of how much you can do because you'd get actual Coke what would they aren't companies right if you're going to buy something from the bisco camp bisco sound Coke real coke disco flavored cocaine in Europe the way that they are with alcohol like Italy for example alcoholic freak out when you are able to do something they got to do whatever they want they can watch TV they could drink and smoke pot and f*** and they go crazy for sure. Time and then at the end of that time they can either leave the church forever or come back and most of them come back right because it's all you know also you probably so hungover out play any sports play sports I just don't live across so I made up for an aggression so there's nothing worse than an athlete that's not good but they're very Crosslake hair all over the place and f****** this face one time so hard that I wasn't allowed to sit with my team like what's a shade Beyond a red card like a black Beating Heart would you do hit a girl with a stick with my car good for you and Pat you on the head good girl pretty good so I wasn't really a part of it out of paper cross and high school and I remember to use like tell me I was crazy to fight I don't like what's to stop someone from hitting you with those sticks and what you guys are running into each other man I don't kid yourself, you doing something violent you're just doing something weird pretend are supposed to hit in your passport but boys it's like football with sticks did you like just pick it up like a baseball bat and cracked his chicken head like how you do it over your head and come down that's not okay my nickname was women allowed to be aggressive it's a thing where it's like on sportsday like you know where start deal represent you got dude just running around ripping people's heads off raping Villages and one girl takes her shirt off at a World Cup game Megan Rapinoe doesn't mean it's like wolves scandalous and I just got back from the UFC broke the rules cuz everybody was just swinging at each other would be totally different sport not I was not great and I own that what did you do cuz you just went over your head I probably just came down years ago getting concussions from lacrosse who's like a lot of violence for it and it's not a professional sport because I think it would be an exciting professional rugby should be our football that's what I think I think would be better to the athletes less concussions they had less concussions back when they're playing those little leather helmets and knee pads cuz you just couldn't do what these guys are doing you're just smashing into Smash Head as a battering ram

do you ever feel that it's almost like you're absorbing too much because you are looking at all the problems of all the people and 7 + billion around the world and all these different horrific and justices I try to focus on what I can do and what I can do is is challenge my own government and as American citizen living in this Society I think that the US Empire and the Pentagon is the source of a lot of problems around the world I look at the world as complex I mean you have to understand the issues that are going on especially with foreign policy and terms of the colonized and colonizers the oppressed and oppressors and the u.s. is role as well as other previous Empires role in shaping the world as it is today and a lot of the problems that have Arisen are because directly US foreign policy whether it be the global war on terrorism Weatherby terrorism in general I mean that no drone strikes basically caused terrorism Weatherby the environmental crises the Pentagon is actually the largest polluter World more than 140 countries that essentially every country in the world almost a bigger polluter than the top four chemical companies combined so it all kind of stems back from this notion that you know the US has the world's largest Empire that ever existed and it needs to be stopped to save humanity and so as an American citizen I look at all the problems and I understand that there is like a very common route and I can do something about this, Andrew and if you're looking at domestic the lack of healthcare the lack of Education I mean Martin Luther King called it decades ago he says you know a nation that spends more and more on military spending is facing social death I probably butchered is quote but that's essentially the spiritual death I think is what he said but I mean if that's exactly what's happening is when we're squandering all of our money bolstering up this huge Global Empire we're not taking care of our people at home are brothers and sisters at home my empathy extends as an internationalist all around the world I know I feel for my brothers and sisters in Palestine Yemen everywhere but I can only do what I can do based on what my government is doing and you know it's doing a lot it's doing a lot of horrible things and it's time for us to really acknowledge what those horrible things are because we need to reinvigorate of an anti-war movement in this country and when you're saying that drone strikes create terrorism what you're really saying is it well with people if they do first and drone strikes primarily kill civilians and it's very strange sanitized way of handling an issue where if you had a person and you had some Rambo character you send them overseas you said hey I want you to go get this Isis terrorists and in the process kill everybody the f*** that you see every everybody that's in front of them that person be a war criminal you had a guy and he knew that some Isis guy was in an apartment building so he just started going down men women and children in that apartment building until he got to the terrorist that guy would go to jail but if you do it with a remote control and you launch Hellfire missiles out of a drone and it blows up the apartment building and kills all these innocent people but also gets a terrorist its mission accomplished and it's crazy it's crazy that we're signing off on that it's it's a thing because we're not there where this is weird sort of a adjust a there's a bridge that we're allowed to cross into this really sickening act it's a very stiff when you have anything that's ineffective to the point where most of the people it kills are good people or at least our innocent people should say that's crazy I mean this is not saying that is not terrorism is not a horrible people in Iceland you look I'm a pro military person I think we need military and I think it's just like the same I need we need cops but to deny the cops sometimes are bad is f****** crazy to not deny that sometimes when you allow the military-industrial complex to do things like have drones that launched missiles into wedding parties because you think one of the people might be a terrorist and are often incorrect often to the tune of 90 + percent look at you knows the last 10 years you look at some of these terrorists to have conducted terrorist attacks you look at actually what their intention was in a lot of them the vast majority of literally sight US foreign policy revenge mean every time you kill 98% innocent people whoever survives if you lost your whole family that you have an incredible amount of motivation to get back at whoever did it right and that whoever did it is the United States stop normalizing this and you know militarily speaking Trump actually you know it's not his truck I mean this is a bipartisan effort throughout the entire Congress if there's one thing Congress can agree upon its to make nonviolent DDS efforts against Israel legal and also to just keep ramping up the military and egging on whoever's sitting in the Oval Office to be more militaristic and that's exactly what's happened with Trump in a bizarre way I mean Congress approved to like a 7 on your trillion defense budget and the increase alone in the last year was basically Russia's entire military budget more than Russia's entire military budget that's how much the s**** ramping up and then you have the space force I mean it's just like how far is this going to go to society is collapsing if you looked at the argument against this you would say we need this in order to keep people safe here they'll be the argument against it question would be what are we what threat is there Isis when has Isis ever done anything here other than I mean there was like a truck I mean come on we already know the statistics on terrorism in this country and they're very low right I mean you're if you're basically more likely to die from Mike Furniture falling on you or your apartment yeah yeah and the whole Isis thing I mean set still criminally ongoing I mean Trump announces indefinite extension of the criminal occupation of a rock it's just crazy how normalize this as you know far longer than Vietnam war in Afghanistan fatalities at an all-time high all of these things are a direct result of US foreign policy and look at the refugee crisis look at immigration the Honduras coup all the ships connected and that's what we need to start like expanding our Consciousness and our empathy worldwide to understand all of these things are linked in the struggle is all linked and our world is shrinking really rapidly what candidate speaks in this way like what candidate do you think understands and recognizes all these things that you're talking about I mean Mike gravelle hit the only one who's like we need to end the US Empire Bernie and you'll see my crevalle was he was the guy who the Pentagon papers into record he is a good guy really awesome but I need toll cease speaking a lot about regime change Wars which is extremely important but she still believes in front strike she basically has a little bit of Obama's foreign policy that I don't agree with that fundamental understanding I can't believe that she believes in some sort of just broad-brush use of it I haven't looked into that the nuances of that but I do think that no one is saying I want them to about us Empire about you no scaling back the US Empire and and stopping all of the Civil Society movement because it's not just about invasions anymore it's about you know usurping the Democratic processes of all of these countries like what we've done in Venezuela what we're doing all around the world to try to foment unrest all of this needs to be stopped for sea of time where our dependence on foreign oil is radically reduced to the point where it doesn't judge by these regime-change wars in our dependence on these resources that these people have I mean this is almost every conflict in the world you can boil down to the acquisition of resource protection of capital and that's like what a lot is what a lot of it is now is actually just Capital interest needing to expand and grow and continuing to up and increase the profit structure of these corporations and that's exactly why we've seen Imperials you know kind of go out of control in the way that it has I don't know I mean I thought that we were more independent oil wise I don't think it's good I think that climate change yeah I think that's it hasn't stopped you know it hasn't stopped the imperialist Misadventures of the US government so I think I just need to be a really big shift in Consciousness and then people to stop thinking that it's our right and that we have to know the right and the duty to do this around the world it doesn't the right we don't have it it's not right then it's really not and we need to really reinvigorate the masses here because again Society is collapsing that's pretty f****** obvious bro even if it's not obvious what is obvious is that we're not evolving right in terms of if we're still involved in drone strikes that kill 90% of people if we're still involved regime-change wars were still involved unnecessary military actions against Iran it's these things are people freaking out about this is all the same kind of s*** that people have been fighting against forever that we don't want our brothers and sisters and husbands and wives to die for nonsense we don't want them to die for some people that live in his air-conditioned rooms that are making billions of dollars that are profiting off of the actions of these these people who think that they're doing it to protect America I mean this is the narrative that they're being served this is what they're being told and when they're going to these places they're not going to those places to act as evil as as to as the the boots of some Empire they're going over there because they think they're protecting Freedom they think they're protecting their famine their loved ones back home that's why they're doing it and we're still doing that we're not evolving wanted to go out there they're the ones who are going to the sacrificial Lambs for these defense contractors and that you can argue anymore that this is for freedom I mean how can you what threat does Iran pose we had so it's so tough so I don't I don't know what what benefit would it be for them to start some s*** with us and that is the craziest idea ever. That's like my you know a nine-year-old kid trying to pick a fight with Mike Tyson's f****** doesn't make any sense like what are you trying to do trying to get killed I mean inevitably we're trying to get to the global confrontation with China and Russia I guess I mean that's it's scary to think that we only have a couple independent states left to knock down to be under complete subjugation from the US Military and global capitalism it's pretty nuts won't even if we do move into some sort of some sort of a situation we're in control then we're bigger Target and with the amount of nuclear weapons that are possessed by these countries that were I mean just what North Korea has just this one small f*****-up country could ruin life on Earth just this one country and forget about Russia we could literally annihilate each other right that's a possibility chose to launch an attack if they decided they have a justification to launch an attack then all sudden we're in a real war like a f****** war war people are invading us it's getting knocked down buildings and bombs blow up I mean or devolving capacity to cooperate to innovate and we're stuck we're stuck dehumanizing the other we're stuck with this Mass conditioning to basically perpetuate these these in justices and it's really a shame I mean we have all the information at our fingertips but we still keep reverting back to what's the myths the myths that underpin our society is conversations and what can we do what where does it end where does it go now these are the big questions and then also did what we discussed before it's impossible for anyone to really have a deep nuanced understanding of all these different issues right what we can do wheat you know the heaviness of it all you just have to do what you can do you're doing what you can do you have me on to to help spread awareness about these issues and that will freak out and also just understand your place you known and just extend that you can and just yeah I mean it's it's hard because I don't have the answer all I know is what's needed and what's needed as we need a movement of the masses if not going to come from the top down it's going to come from a Grassroots mobilized effort to try to change these policies that's the only way things have ever changed in the past and I absolutely have hope and optimism that we're going to change things and that we're going to correct this horrible path that were on do you think that the 2020 election can have a real significant impact of any of this and you think that whoever gets into office can really have an effect on the kind of policies that were talking about with the kind of influence of the military-industrial complex of all these lobbyists of Wall Street all about all these like Monsters machines that just pure good old-fashioned democracy can actually step in and and turn the ship away from the Rocks Bernie I really do think that he's won last chances not because I think that he's going to completely do some revolutionary upheaval from the top down as we know Congress is stocked with a lot of terrible people who will block a lot of these efforts but I think that he's going to mobilize the masses and reinvigorate the labor movement and reinvigorate unions and help workers understand that they need to fight for these rights that have been eviscerated you know over the last hundred years one thing that does inspire me as well as seeing people like Elon Omar is incredible she's a Somali Refugee she Advocates BDS against Israel and she does not f****** back down I love that woman what an incredible woman she got this viciously attacked for retweeting one of my episodes from Empire files and I think it just shows how scared people are of of her and her ideas and you saw how hard everyone came down on her for just saying that is real has an influential Lobby and DC she's also wearing religious scarves right right away is the job and then there's something somebody hit piece on her yesterday to see anything she married a brother that's ridiculous country that's a religious marriage but then she had another I don't know what's the only one in Congress other than a band of course AOC and you know some other very few people but she's out there everyday speaking against the military industrial complex being against the wars I think as a refugee she under and the effects of US policy and I'm really excited that she has a voice in there but again I don't think that the hope is going to come from within Congress and the system is way too far gone with the Electoral College and the gerrymandering and the voter rights you know that I've been rescinded its it's a lot and it's an uphill battle but that's why someone like Bernie I think we'll turn to the people and say I can't do this alone you have to come out and get my back and we have to have millions of people in then rescinded its it's a lot and it's an uphill battle but that's why someone like Bernie I think we'll turn to the people and say I can't do this alone you have to come out and get my back and we have to have millions of people in the streets demanding these things that's the only way it can work

what the hell is lotus doing these days like they keep coming out with all these Concepts and prototypes but then nothing ever seems to be actually happening or coming out I don't know they had that little car you know I guess is that one is that the one that really little one that they had and I was like what will you have a f****** pair of chipmunks running the the engine with a flicker Windows hamster wheels Mithun even that like last year to Quail we were at their car they debuted a concept that was low kick ass but from what I heard it was his name bajar de making such a disgusting amount of money and Licensing like keychains and b******* that like the court even the engineering tier-1 engineering aspect of lotus and then the production they're like f*** that that's complicated and business over the last 10 years bags whatever ship that anyone wants to put the Lotus name on where stolen license is left and right but they're not selling cars I don't think they have anything in production or concepts than multinational car companies that they have and said is awesome beautiful car but you don't see them you never see them kind of like a Malcolm bricklin situation of like just Malcolm bricklin so one of the best car books ever that you know Jonny Lieberman right dear friend Johnny's recommended and it's called the worst car ever built and it's the story of the you go around that car and behind all of it was Malcolm bricklin who's like the Barnum of the automotive industry the amount of stories and stuff this guy is lived through and calls and gotten away with this insane but like the Hugo the cars were like late they're going to debut at the LA Auto Show and they realize like oh s*** we don't have Booth models or anything we going to do some Malcolm bricklin & in the story goes around downtown LA and just where are the prostitutes where the whores hang out around here hired a bunch of the girls to human-like be here at this time for these days it's just like run the show and be there Booth models and rep the cars would like the cars as they came out of the container had to disassemble themselves and Transit rep the cars would like the cars as they came out of the container had to disassemble themselves in transit

Bloom boxes know really what is it thinking about them lately I remember seeing him on 60 Minutes years ago and I think Google headquarters was powered by one what does are these funky little black boxes that had some chemical process of creating energy and they were like early on massive news promising Tech in their super groovy little simple boxes and they originally did it for like campuses military like large large installations for you multiple complexes and stuff and they were also making them for automotive and they had a prototype I was so excited I think it was elements within the shielded box to create the energy but they were like self-sustaining and super groovy boombox literally is just a big black box doesn't what's in there it's just one of those things that seemed so promising that then went bye-bye seemed like to Royal engines there was a great engineer at the Lodi that was real getting to radials and get a Ford Focus that would do is like his daughter's old car with a blown up motor he had his own to Royal Motor that he had developed that could run from the energy in the charged particles in the air what thing did like 15 miles an hour on a flat Test Track Running on are charged particles in the air is charged particles as they are could be a real speed wow I saw him once at a trade show and I was exhibiting at the show as well since they're on setup there's bored out of my gourd we were done by was already set up in the fort boots that is walking around for the sniffing around and see this trippy scientist guy in his lab coat in this s***** little booth was like a note 6 by 10 foot booth and radial thing and then a bigger toroidal thing and literally like a chalkboard slime tube what's going on so start talking about it starts explaining the technology and what he was doing and like the smaller one at 300 foot pounds of torque the larger one had two thousand and he was looking to develop it for rail cars for semis for cars like an on and on and on as I get the biggest problem is stopping you from 12 to 2 of that first cylinder was such that when the combustion occurred and it propelled the next piston into the next combustion cycle and kept going so getting that power out of the simple crank was a challenge and then how to stop the damn thing was like the bigger challenge but they'd run on like horse piss ionic charge particles diesel gas boot gun empty done and I have the guys info and try to reach out to him website go on the website I looked at the Night Before Dawn that gobbled up five years later I see him again in another trade show with another kickass design and man was he a bitter man so I can never again cuz they bought it and they shelled it I'm never selling anything again f*** them I'm licensing to specific channels of applications and that's it his new product so what do you think happened if your conspiracy theorist do you think someone bought him out and just bought a small independent business owner real realest in that hell yes someone didn't like that and they shelved that s*** so they bought it and so is next product generator and you had a small battery in the vehicle right so this is a retrofit system the retail model was brilliant because you have like a pretty cheesy inexpensive 3 axis Mill a s*** ton of CAD files and one product on the Shelf so in a lightweight car it was like an electric supercharger to replace your alternator and had a tooth Cog and for the pulley and then your crank pulley wood added to the card to it and then to the Bell so the idea was it would assist the internal combustion through its compression cycle it would negate the parasitic load of all the Fiat all the front engine accessory Drive mounted things you know your alternator is smog pump or whatever like pushing engine through the cycle with the captured electrical energy from the deceleration use it and then the guy disappeared off the face planet again series Crisis guy should happens if you remember there was a video that was circulating many years ago about a guy who created a car to run on air no excuse me water get created a car that runs on water and then this car that ran on water make you apparently had a viable engine and it was really working and then he he he had a heart attack and as he was dying you saying they killed me they killed me and then he died but we can put them in a little box and called a conspiracy theory or whatever and he has therefore it never happened doesn't believe in conspiracy theories I say look at Jeffrey Epstein could do what physicists say is impossible turn water and hydrogen fuel efficiently enough to drive is dune buggy cross country on 20 gallons straight from the tap that's f***** up that's f***** up I don't know if it's true history of mankind have been a little off The Rocker sexual desires and love affair that we had and the distraction and presented that he in quotes destroyed his sexuality I do not know what that means I don't want to be walking around like a mini have a hip switch sort of swept aside that you wonder like there's a documentary who killed the electric car I don't know who he is but that is another example of the you know that was an innovation that was a little bit ahead of its time and the powers-that-be were like f*** you early patent troll horse carriages and we got these new motor things and you know what something to could be a Horseless Carriage so we like literally did like a chicken scratch b******* drawing and filed it and got awarded the patent so Henry Ford in his first two companies as well as the Dodge Brothers all the early Pioneers in the transportation sector in the US had to pay this break a massive royalty to even produce the vehicle and it was Henry when he read when he after he went down and under knee has reborn and came back out with Ford Motor Company the second time that I'm not paying this s*** and it was like eight years of Court battles to overrule it in the National Automotive Dealers Association originally didn't want any trouble and everyone was pan and Henry was the one who had the gall in the balls if they know where you're not pay this brick and they finally got a kicked out but they say that the injured innovation in transportation for a good decade only the electric starter the magnetic starter that Henry Ford integrated into his cars that really made the massive shift away from predominance of electric cars to internal combustion so when you flash forward in your look at mr. pains filmed who killed the electric car and you look at Firestone and dad who was it Pacific oil oil company Tire company and they created that bus company and then they did all the law privatized Municipal transport so that then they could slowly by them all up and you know California had an incredibly successful electric Trolley system through the Westside it was brilliant his pioneering was at everyone they're the ones that ended up stacked in the desert near this some of that footage in the film that everyone they're the ones that ended up stacked in the desert in this some of that footage in the film company that's doing amazing everyday put it on the Shelf

you know there were. Periods of time and in our history where people would steal our religious objects and our sacred items they still do and ludar Graves law called the Native American Graves protection and repatriation act that was meant to repatriate those stolen items in those stolen ancestors back to tribe so that we could help with our cultural revitalization as well as put our ancestors back to rest there are still at least 200,000 ancestors in boxes in museums that's just in the US in the US just in the US around the world French people in boxes in museums in the US are recently in our sacred objects for some reason there was a sacred Shield of the Pueblo of Acoma in about 2016 that was being sold at auction in in France the the tribe the Pueblos fought and even went to court in France to try to stop at auction and get that item back because there was evidence that it had been stolen in contemporary times and France said you don't have standing in our courts so even though they're considered Sovereign Nation here in the United States we didn't have sing in in the French court and couldn't protect that item this way so we had to use other means of negotiation and arm-twisting that item is finally been repatriated but it took it took about four years to for that to happen no this is a sacred object right these are items that are used for religious purposes or after their protected sacred items and the association we were fighting with the Metropolitan Museum of Art last year and the year before because they were displaying items from a private collection that were sacred one item was even a funerary objects with an item that is never supposed to be seen because it's buried with the ancestor and it was on display and without any kind of consultation with the tribes affected it's horrendous the way we still look at Indian people and and our cultures and our practices today I were still being called heathens everything article I think just last week there was a a religious man saying that we're heathens because the stage that I gave you because we burn stage as one of our medicinal and in spiritual practices the reason why a Christian group an Ohio where indigenous peoples have just been removed wholeheartedly is that tons of archaeologists and other people that like to loot they have taken so many things out of the ground there was a case that the FBI actually got ahold of in Indiana gentleman by the name of Don Miller who had huge Ranch House in farm and it was just full of Native American artifacts including human remains and there were even items from other countries that he had had looted and taken and the FBI actually investigated that Anne and because the man was like 90 years old they didn't prosecute him but they were able to take back those true that Native American Graves protection and repatriation act I've been Consulting with tribes to repatriate those items back but that looting and collecting and in areas like Indiana and Ohio and if so where this gentleman's get all this stuff including the FBI told media Outlets report Mueller report admitted he conducted illegal digging Expeditions we never face criminal charges before his death in 2015 so this guy was just digging stuff up and just showing around his house and then there were rules against this oh absolutely absolutely keep any records of where he got a lot of the items so our laws are really screwy with this to so Federal and tribal lands are protected so public lands parks and tribal lands are protected lands you can't go and Dig Inn in federal or tribal lands without a permit among other things but just in state private private lands it's really dependent on state laws are in and it's it's really inconsistent whether those weather looting is protected or not so that's where it's interesting because there's a lot of gigantic ranches in Texas that are privately owned that were originally Native American hunting grounds they they're the ones that a friend of mine is hunted on that they have these pictographs you go inside these caves and it says on private land someone owns this can artwork all over the walls of the cave and signs of fire like they'll sit on the ceiling of the cave where the lit campfires like this should probably be some sort of a historical site bright and it's it's usually not protected and and dumb people get real angry when Indians try to get involved in and we're there maybe development that hat will have an effect on Berry side of sacred site other other type of site people really get angry and it it's so it's really hard for tribes to work to protect these areas work to learn about what the areas are even about there's been so much amateur archaeology in this whole country was founded on amateur archaeology let's for for gold and other special things and oftentimes they just took whatever was in the grave and and and created all over the world today so the association is constantly looking at auctions and trying to return items it that private collectors have been improperly we just got a human vertebra removed from u.s. auction just a couple of weeks ago they were selling it because they said it had an arrow point still in you know so that that has value in in in some markets how do they prove that it wasn't just satellite that was killed by an arrow right I don't know and that's the thing about that's the thing about I'm trying to work with auctions and private collectors as they often don't want to work with us because they're trying to make money so often times items whether their religious objects or human remains they have a story or with call the provenance associated with them that is often made up to dry the price of the item so whether that was illegitimate a vertebra van Native American we don't talk to them how would they determine who the person was isn't necessarily going to tell you where it came from it could tell you that it was Native Americans in the state of Washington he was old old old old and the universities involved in the Army Corps who had possession of it we're going to repatriate it to appropriate tribes and what ended up happening is is that you know Academia stepped up and said I wait this isn't Native American we think he's something else and four years back and after a court case that the item wasn't that the ancestor wasn't Native American DNA test was done and it was indeed Native American and and the ancestor was finally so I say if you want and it's brought back and given to Native Americans to who until we're right so so so let's look at the best case scenario and in a lot of museums have maintained records that may have human remains and Associated funerary objects and have enough information to know where that came from Woodside was located at what county what state and we know from tribal histories as well as as Federal us documentation that that that area was likely affiliated with with you know this tribe or that tribe or maybe several tribes and so consultation occurs under that law about those ancestral remains in funerary objects and it's determined where those items should go back in the case scenario where there's not any information often times evidence of a will who were the collectors that were giving to that institution what has been the history of the institution and where has it obtained different Collections and through that you know it's deduced who may be affiliated with with those those items are the the ancestors so it can be a pretty long. process but what's interesting about it is is is museums and other institutions fought this law for a long time and they said well you know all of our collections will you know we won't be able to fulfill our purposes at a museum or an academic institution to study these things work to consult with museums most of these items are in boxes and often poorly managed and maintained so they're just sitting somewhere in storage right Americans do you agree with the idea I'll get want to hear Kennewick man finally it's free-to-play never found in North America what does it give us a date on his what they have car go to that picture that he's again that's crazy so so just let me tell you that looking at human remains for many tribal peoples is is difficult it's like looking at him a naked body I mean it's it's the essence of someone that you know we shouldn't be saying that that should have been in the ground that should have gone and disappeared it had a journey at got interrupted and and you know it some tribes and cultures believe that that's harmful to interact or look at or just it a little bit humiliating it's exposed an In-N-Out and at least in the United States you won't find that in any kind of Public Museum now you might in some kind of private institution or private collection other cultures that they're trying to get those back to some sort of a that be cool if that was Ronald Reagan you know what that be cool if that was someone from our you know our lifetime that died with had Janis Joplin's head you know in a box somewhere and then go stare at it when that weird you out or how about Amy Winehouse how about someone that died yeah she was saying yeah that way we don't seem to to to go oh that's not okay so it's no Outlaw their religion how would I feel if someone did that to me right

one of the things they talked about in Black Elk was the practice of the Ghost Dance to this idea that they were going to somehow or another bring back the old ways and it's a sad sad story when you hear them talk about especially because it's coming from the words of black alcohol with a guy that was there with the Battle of Little Bighorn and then from then now is an older man talking about what would his experiences have been haven't had seen as people moved to reservation I seen it basically every single treaty broken I mean was there a single treaty that United States had with the Indians and it didn't break that what that's insane mean every single one and most treaties had some similar language a lot of them talked about they had bad man Provisions so bad man Provisions were basically if our men the us if our men come in and to your jurisdiction and do something bad will take care of it for you you know just some simple Provisions like that but never was enforced the US let let their people come in and take over what we're supposed to be protective areas of land and that was just constant that happened that happened everywhere so there were bad Provisions through a lot of Provisions lot of beautiful Provisions that that the tribes still talk about today as long as the Grass Grows and we'll have our lands and in none of these Provisions wherever upheld and a lot of the East Coast tribes there their boundaries were changed a new treaties were made and accepted and Andrew removal happened and there were new treaties and nothing was ever maintained and the other tribes that were removed to Oklahoma and by the way because of that removal their tribes that were already there were removed so they're already tribes there the Caddo and Comanche another other tribes that this was our he their land so new tribes moved in and land dreaming I'm forgetting my dates now but there was a Dawes commission around 1906 or so there was a census and individual Indians were allotted about a hundred sixty Acres apiece and this was an effort to decrease the amount of land base that tribes held in common right and this happened all across the country not just in Oklahoma where there were allotment policies and I believe there were there were about heck I'm not good with numbers I think they were like 19 million Acres that that were removed this way of of land but what happened today there is a criminal case before The Supreme Court that is actually addressing these issues because even though our lands were allotted the exterior boundaries of our reservations the area that we had agreed to live in they've never been extinguished never been diminished and so the Supreme Court's is activist Supreme Court has actually looking at this issue now is to whether we still have jurisdiction within the exterior boundaries of our reservations in Oklahoma well so so not necessarily so so it's raised a lot of fear with with non-indians about taking back the Land O my God but what would actually happen there's a lot of places in Indian country where there's a lot meant and there's there's a non-indian individuals who have feel and within the exterior boundaries are reservations and then individual Indians only feel and within the exterior boundary reservation land how you would how you own land it's called it's not restricted it's it's it's in you own the title to that land right a lot of land held by tribes in trust during restricted fee so common Ariel and likes like let's look at them the Onondaga nation in New York state they have the exterior boundaries of the reservation they own a restricted file and so they own it but they can't sell it without us permission trust land is similar and it's treated the same as restricted fee but it's held in trust so the US has more control of of of what happens on that land or has been seen to have a little more control than it wouldn't in just restricted fee but with a boundaries of the reservation you can have this checkerboard ownership of land of non-indians and Indians and and but that doesn't necessarily mean that the tribe has jurisdiction over the non-indian feel and and the the civil and criminal jurisdiction issues on an area of land like that is extremely complex and continues to be argued in the courts and it most of the time our jurisdiction most of the time since the 80s and 90s and up until today we there was really a change in kind of how the Supreme Court decided Indian law cases so if we back into the history of Federal Indian policy you see this kind of weird schizophrenic you know those those those Marshall cases that I talked about they really stepped forward kind of schizophrenic principles that unions are sovereign but the Civilized so we have to take care of them and so you have a different eras of time policymakers who support tribal sovereignty cases to help support that sovereignty and then there are other administrations that come around not talking about current Administration but that that use those cases against us an integrated policy and degrade any kind of rights that we may have gained in in other eras so it's it's really been you know Indians today live in this live in such an insecure world you know our statistics are horrible the suicide rate for youth high school graduates everything that you could possibly think of there's a statistic on were usually the lowest were the worst and it's because we live in a society that is constantly changing we can never depend on whether or not our rights are secured whether or not we're going to have the lowest are the worst and it's because we live in a society that is constantly changing we can never depend on whether or not our rights are secured whether or not we're going to have land jobs being able to practice our culture

the things that I got out of this recent obsession with American Indian culture and the stories was realizing how little I knew about the history of this country you know you you might know you might have a basic understanding of what happened that you learned in school it's real peripheral and it's very surface and then upon reading these books and maybe realize like what happened here this is what happened here over the course of a couple hundred years is almost unprecedented in in history like that this nation was conquered by all these Invaders that just kept coming in kept changing the rules kept breaking trees making trees breaking treaties wiping people out calling things battles when they were really just massacres of women and children Municipal horrendous horrendous stories of justification of these massacres that were no no different than any other horrific Barbarian Slaughter that you might have heard about in history that's looked down upon but four years in this country they were taught as if they were actual battles in that did the history of this country with in regards to the tribes and the American settlers and the soldiers is terrifying it's terrifying it is just happened a couple of hundred years ago and that people are capable of these things and the ancestors of these people I just roaming around today and that's what this country was founded on this country was founded on the massacre site and and and that policy has been steady by folks like Adolf Hitler and in his book Mein Kampf but it wasn't just the battles there have been many different types of battles that we consider Warfare though it hasn't been done with you no guns and legal right legal battles exactly I mean since the 60s Europeans have been trying to educate us and assimilate us and in civilize us and have passed laws once the States became a nun new country and 1800 pass laws to take our children and move them far away and and punish them if they spoke their language cut their hair put them in the schools that were military based and they studied academics in the morning and then they did trade in the afternoon and in those trades were to help pay for cool so they were basically indentured servant slave labor making sure that the school could have enough funds to pay for their own education and the boarding school history in the United States and Canada has horrendous Renda stories and the schools were funded by the US federal government and dissociation and other groups are trying to get the United States to release records of of who were the children in the schools we think there's a there were about 500 boarding schools across the United States and about at least 20,000 children that we can figure out where were killed were duck died in the schools some of this work has been done at the Carlisle Indian School and in Pennsylvania which is now owned by the Army Corps Army Corps of Engineers and there are some tribes that are trying to repatriate their children that are engraved Aaron and bring them back home so this is been a process all over the country trying to figure out you know who these children were where they belong and in to bring them home it's been a really difficult process for the organization any of them cuz he's not being fed working too much all those things that could kill a child at all these think those records of all these different children probably doesn't have the records probably has mismanaged a lot of the records regarding these boarding schools in and there were different times have been different eras of Indian policy where the federal government was like oh wait this isn't working let's let's get out of this business of teaching Indians let's give it to the church has let them do it for awhile and then it would come back into the federal government and but the churches would have it at course we've heard all of the horrible things that different churches have done to children and there are still many boarding school survivors today that can tell those stories of abuse sexual and physical and who still live with that today there is a organization called the Native American boarding school healing Coalition that is really working on these kind of issues and have are pulling together the stories and are also working with survivors I to try to heal from that that trauma that's not just theirs but it's it's this insured intergenerational historic drama that has been with our communities for a couple hundred years now so they're there are a lot of stories like that in the end this again mrs. US federal policy while they were while the US was building the reservation system and and and putting tribes kind of in these Blockheads if you did not send your child to school you weren't given rations you weren't given your food if you practiced your culture you could be killed for practicing your culture using your language because and because this was the assimilation policy of the day and this happened I would say 18:15 70s through the 1920s there was this horrific. Of federal Indian policy of of doing trying to do away with language communal type living cultural practices in religion so this isn't just you know gun warfare this is been continuing policy that affects us today policies it even affects us today on warfare until they got the Indians to move into the reservation and then it was basically an annihilation of the culture international law

so we need if if we can't clear away the myth that gyro America or White America whatever you want to call it if we can't clear away those myths that we continually face everyday every time I go into Washington DC damn it every time I go into the Wegmans there's a big Washington football team Tostitos potato chips with the Washington team name on there and and and the majority of Native American groups tribes they've all let the team know that that that that name is offencive and they still won't change it. they say it's honoring it's honoring Native Americans of that term is used and you see it in historic records to count Indian skins or scallops that have been taken from Indian people if it's an offencive not just derogatory or demeaning but it's dead people yeah we get oh yeah that's an offensive word I heard that defense of the majority people are not talking to someone who is deeply ingrained in the Native American issues and culture like you are so you can explain to us me to make sense it was you no stink about some derogatory term for someone somewhere I mean even if it was kind of derogatory like if they were called the Washington crowds and it was all based on Germans like a lot of German people probably really pissed off at that like hey you know that's kind of shity but it's the Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs Braves there's a lot of Indians are the Braves still around high school colleges and I don't know the status of any you know it's far as NFL International Teams Syracuse a derogatory mascot that they changed some years back because of the tribes they're there now in the state of New York fought for that these issues I think we really need to start with our public education system we need to teach people that Indians are still here we're still alive it's amazing how many people don't even realize it that Indian people exist outside of casinos go to the grocery store buy some butter or some baking soda look at look at different pop culture Indian motorcycle in the Pontiac car back in the day I think the hours of old old Pontiac sure it's all around us but yet we don't even realize that what that means and so it really too many of us you would think it would open up a dialogue about about Indian people and and whether we're going to choose to do something different with this history because it is our history it it's our Collective history and we have throughout change the narrative in stories of our history you know when we ball realize that Columbus wasn't such a great guy you were what were their designation was but there was one Journal that detailed what they did to Native American babies out of their heads on rocks and cut people's arms off of they didn't bring their weight and gold them in horrific horrific Tales of torture and murder and it's like how is this the guy that we have a day off for houses Columbus and you realize we'll Columbus was a conqueror I mean he was just a symbol the times music 1492 is a brutal time in human history and when they arrived and what they mean it really didn't even arrived here but when they arrive wherever they did arrive it was the worst thing that could ever possibly happen to the people that were already living there and that this guy is somehow or another you know I'll part of our folklore you know 1492 Columbus sail the ocean blue and all that nonsense in the meanwhile he's a f****** murderer and it's it's kind of crazy the new this but it took until now that mean didn't they change it to indigenous people's day County states that are still in the process of changing that I'm not sure I think there is some cities in in California that have already done that in the end celebrate indigenous people's day but it Columbus out on bro I'm sorry I was trying to ignore that I'm sorry sorry thanks a lot I feel really welcome are named after Indians Columbus man f*** you Columbus changing it would change it to Ohio wow people that are not federally recognized but I know that there was Indiana Ohio that was there in Oklahoma but there are you saying that earlier and I was like I was going to correct you I was going to ask you rather have you meant the city of Miami is did Miami get named after Native Americans

let's go to that then this is the United States has a very strange situation with Native Americans were Native Americans have reservations and on those reservations they have sovereignty they can have different rules they can do what they want to exchange is like those Nations inside of our nation how do you feel about that start with the beginning like how did how did how did we get to where we are today there and there's a lot of information and so you got to stop me if I start getting too carried away all right so there are Supreme Court cases and there was his name John Marshall who is actually buying Indian land from from us the US Country u.s. Grants and so he was interested he was an interested party but he was making decisions that that set forward the kind of watershed principles that continue to affect who Native Americans and Indian Nation governments are today and so those three cases coming to court to try to determine who owned a piece of land in Indiana and there was one guy Johnson who is plaintiff who would purchase the land directly from the pinkish all Indians were related to the Miami Tribe today and then the defendant was MacIntosh and he purchased Land from the US government and so the case of course was who had the proper rights and through that case The Narrative that Justice Marshall created brought forward a piece of Discovery have you ever heard of the doctor to conquer Dennis Heathen people's so this was the principle that this case was based on and it set forward this weird relationship the tribes in the US government have today so if the us if the Christian European peoples had the rights to take land away from tribes because they were an inferior race which is this this is language from Meister inferior race they're Savages they're unable to govern themselves and they only have a right of occupancy so that was the first of three cases that Justice Marshall decided and of course he was an interested party in the whole thing because he had purchase land from the United States and he wanted to make sure his land was Secure the second case was Cherokee Nation V Georgia they gotten through Congress to remove the Eastern Indians west of the Mississippi River and Indian Territory which is of course now Oklahoma Kansas Texas area and and again this was the case that actually of the Cherokee Nation tried to bring before The Supreme Court and before The Supreme Court could even make a decision on the and I just realized I didn't even tell you the facts of the case I'm getting ahead of myself I apologize this is this is incredible experience to be here so I'm a little bit nervous so in Cherokee Nation vs Georgia Georgia was trying to assert its laws over the Cherokee Nation and so the Cherokee Nation brought this case before The Supreme Court to say that the state does not have any right to assert any of its laws against us and what Justice Marshall did is sit is said well you're not a foreign Nation so you can't bring a case before The Supreme Court and determine the tribes were pseudo Sovereign Nation that they were still under the tutelage they needed to be civilized again the same kind of Savage language in this case and held that the federal government had plenary power over tribal Affairs and that the Cherokee Nation couldn't bring this case to court so what ended up happening is some missionaries who were serving the Cherokee Nation actually developed the case and violated Georgia so they could bring a case before The Supreme Court in that case was called Worcester V Georgia and I think that was about 1830 to 1831 and in that case it was ruled that the United States had a guardian and Ward type relationship with tribes and so we were the wards they were our guardian and that set up this weird dynamic that still exist today the Supreme Courts and other case other courts site in decisions today to basically take away more and more rights so so that was that's the Watershed basis for this weird relationship that we have and it's based on racism it's based on tribes being an inferior peoples they not be civilized and and so here we are so help help directly into another question here so fascinating thing the idea that the United States government is that they're like the big daddy over the tribes and the only way the tribes can exist as if they exist the European way right the great white father and so all this was happening while they were trying to conquer the West so all this was happening around the gold rush time before then so this was happening in the 1830s was 1850s absolutely Civilized Tribes were in the Southeast at that time and that's what's so interesting is because you see through this is a this is a little bit why have a problem with some of the books that you've read is because they've taken small pictures of what was going on and kind of removed the context of what was really happening there so many tribes across the United States that tried everything to resist or comply or stimulate so that they can maintain their weight I've maintained their lands and continue to prosper as they had been but the United States was obviously for a formidable opponent and regardless of of of for example of Five Civilized Tribes and their their their tactic was to assimilate was to go to school and educate themselves and learn English and even though they did that and they did everything that the United I wanted them to do they were forced off their land to the West into Indian Territory the Comanche learned about through the book they that those events happened during a point of time and that was their effort and resistance they saw how disease wiped out their brother and from other nations than that folks were coming to get them and so that was their way of resist being simulated and having everything taken away from them in the defense of the authors of those books they did Cover a lot of that they did these books are in no way taking the side of the United States government you know most of them the most amazing thing about Empire of the summer moon was just how special the relationship that the Comanches had to the land in about how when did Jessica and Parker's at with no Cynthia Cynthia Ann Parker who is she's the photo out there the woman that's breastfeeding your child she was kidnapped when she was nine and assimilated with the Comanches and then was re kidnapped by the United States government when she was in her thirties and didn't want to go back she missed the Comanche life and threw her and threw her depictions in her descriptions of the way they lived the understanding of it they got a better sense of like what she missed about that life and that they had an incredible relationship with the land they lived basically just in teepees they were very nomadic they just followed around the Buffalo and they had you know what in her way of looking at it on a magical existence in comparison to this really boring life that these settlers had and when you know what she looked at it it was interesting because she was a girl who was born describe a white settler and then from the age of nine on lived as a Comanche so she had like sort of the view of Both Worlds and you know she very much took the side of the Comanches and she wanted to go back like she had spoken Comanche and in the book there's an encounter where they bring in someone who was the Comanche to speak to her and she grabs and she's like take me back we're going to leave let's get out of here now like her thought was like we got to get out of here like this way of life is b******* like I want to go back to the Comanches but she just didn't understand that that way of life was slowly going away and her son Quanah Parker who is that photograph over there that's on bullets that somebody made for me I don't even know where that came from somebody sent me that he was the last Comanche chief and they bothered during her lifetime and her son's lifetime was the last of it and it's a very sad story do the Comanches live today in Oklahoma but they do but they don't live the way they did right that means their way of life was removed mean they were wiped out Comanche still live today right in Oklahoma has quite a few of them is very cool but they do but they don't live the way they did right that means their way of life was removed mean they were wiped out

ulcers aren't static we're not static and I think one of the major issues that American Indians have is that we are often stereotyped into this this picture and if we don't fit that then we're not legitimately Indian rhetorical question so are you one-hundred percent Native American and that's that's let's talk about that talk about that what other so blood Quantum is an imposition from the federal government that is that has been used to weed out Native Americans so the whole the whole idea of US federal policy has to assimilate Indians to rid themselves of the Indian problem so that land and resources could be obtained right and so blood Quantum was one way that the u.s. government could do that so if you if you didn't meet what they thought was some kind of purity test then they could write you off right but that is not how many Indian nations View tribal citizenship for membership it's through other types of cultural continuity family relationships and it's not about race that's been an imposition on us so I'm polish and Choctaw absolutely absolutely Italian I'm Italian but I have a last name is Irish cuz I'm one-quarter Irish so growing up around Italians who was always like the way they made fun of me and it was like it was always a funny thing like are you sure your Italian you know like it's a purity test an ice last name with a lot of vowels you know it's a that's what they like and it's really interesting Association on American Indian Affairs we get tons of inquiries probably the top inquiry we get our people wanting to do DNA test to determine what tribe they belong to so everyone seems to want to be Indian and even some people are are emboldened enough to say I did my DNA test Native American that's a real issue that doesn't exist but there's some kind of of fantasy or myth that many people in the US have kind of believe about Indians because we don't know it's not like it's taught well in school if it's it's not like this is part of a normal dialogue identify whether you have certain genetic traits that might be from North America Canada or might be from South America as well right you have to do that genealogical research and if you know where there's 574 federally recognized tribes in about 300 other tribal groups in the United States on top of the fact that aren't recognized by the United States for many reasons and so each one of those tribes have their own laws they have their own systems of governance their own whether it's a more traditional form of government or a written constitutional government needs one of them have their own eligibility requirements for citizenship so you have to do your own genealogy and then if you do find who you may be affiliated with any that nation and you talk to them about what their eligibility requirements are some of them are residencies some of them are familial relations and some of them are blood quantum Indian federal law of art it's a legal term of Art it's a it's a defined Federal term that has a specific definition in u.s. code we tend to like to be called the nation that we belong to from south of the invisible Border North of the invisible border and and in the Western Hemisphere so it's a much broader indigenous peoples is a great great term I really want whereas the people that live on my friends live in Alberta and First Nation people can know they Dave Dunlop hunting seasons they just do whatever they want they basically say look let's just pretend like we never invaded and you just live how you would normally but with modern equipment and also it's it's a little odd but there's no getting around it. they don't have hunting seasons they just do whatever they want they basically say look let's just pretend like we never invaded and you just live how you would normally but with modern equipment episodes it's a little odd but there's no way getting around it being odd

when I'm asking this in terms of like if you had a magic wand what do you do with the reason why I'm asking you this is because I've thought about it I've sat down and tried to go over at myself and I don't see a solution that sits what's so strange to me is that we have Nations inside of our nation and I don't I don't want it ended and I don't want to continue it neither neither one makes sense to me like to take to end it would be to say you are assimilate you no longer have sovereignty we're going to break the last treaty and disband the reservations and make everybody just be a United States citizen that seems crazy everyone is a US citizen I'm just I'm just trying to look at it like from an overhead view like if I was an alien and I was trying to sort this out I had no no ties to either call Trevor like what are you doing with that like what do you do with that like I understand these people been massively f***** over that the genocide was perpetrated on their their their race that they were wiped out both with disease and by military actions and soldiers and treaties were broken I get it but the stay turn right now when you look at what we're talking about with these reservations are the horrific conditions in the problems of drug abuse and alcoholism and suicide and and despair and self-esteem and all these issues like what is the solution what would beat me if there was an unlimited budget like what what would you do if you were like it is President Shannon if you got elected you could win right you can be president and vice president you ran on the part of what your platform was was fixing this gigantic store that we have in this country our relationship with the tribes what would you do unlimited resources you do whatever you want I think if we were properly educated about about history I think if we really understand who native people are and their importance here and their importance to continue as Sovereign tribal Nations and it has to start it has to start with with public education we have to recreate what's important to us and I think Indian nations have have been here I think they're a symbol of of amazing Prosperity that the country could have and we've just never tapped into it and I'm I'm talking about just principles and values that that we don't seem to to hold any more in this country I feel like you're kind of being sarcastic no no no no no no no not one of the major problems we have in this country is we don't ever appreciation of nature we really don't you know we we don't look Seven Generations ahead of us to see what our decisions today or going to do to us in the future we're constantly looking for the dollar today and how that's going to reward our efforts today or not looking how you know what the lives of our children are going to look like with the lives of our great-great-grandchildren are going to look like in in and I think those are the kind of values that that we need in our country now and I think that's what's being debated in the Democratic campaign right now you know where our values are at what we want you know a hundred years from now even though their spokesperson we barely talk which is hilarious I mean to shows you how strong money and media and the influence of DNC is what would all this education do though and explain to people to the American citizens are outside the tribe how is that going to help the tribes themselves what what can be done to help these problems that we pretty detailed the problems with alcoholism the problems with suicide and despair and self-esteem all these her room conditions that exist on Mini many tribes what part of that is is is not anyone anyone's problem but ours that we have to deal with is as Sovereign Nations within our our own communities and how we how we choose to fix those issues but I think looking outside how how we can really affect change is there's something called prior and informed consent and it's in it's contained within the UN Declaration of indigenous peoples and it requires a state or government to include tribal nations in the decision-making processes that affect them so this Administration has been horrible at it absolutely horrible but need to be part we need to be the decision-makers in the things that affect us so if if you were going to a bulldoze and blow up our sacred sites to build your border wall it seems like the proper thing to do first would be to have a conversation with us in him for us to make a decision about how we may can do that a little bit better to protect those sacred sites and and natural springs in other things along along the border instead like the proper thing to do first would be to have a conversation with us in the end for us to make a decision about how we may can do that a little bit better to protect those sacred sites and and natural springs and other things along along the border instead of just blowing up everything

so what do when when you look at that situation the casino situation we're now all the sudden economically these tribes can Thrive and the the reservation that owns that casino can Thrive and as you're saying the money goes straight back to the reservation and to the people that run it and it ended it legitimately helps the people that live on that reservation what other things like that can be done to also take advantage of the fact that there are Sovereign Nation and allow them to economically Thrive without things like fracking and s*** that's bad for the environment other other things that are being implemented that could also help they're all different types of Economic Development going on in Indian country that can be very successful for external businesses because a benefit sitting outside business would get if they did for example manufacturing with in Indian Country they could benefit from certain tax exemptions and in and rebates that they wouldn't get in an estate so if corporations the Border or going somewhere else there would be great opportunities but and some tribes are taking advantage of those business opportunities not just gaming but out of gaming has grown a lot of a lot of investment a lot of entrepreneurial ship in tribes in a lot of the money has gone back to help educate and teach language and and ancestors and and the things that are important for that tribal Nation so there's many different ways of investment that that tribal Nations look at it it's not necessarily economic but it's about healing their people and and helping us survive in and live better than we have in the past so investment takes many forms and Indian country tribal Nations look at it it's not necessarily economic but it's about healing their people and and helping us survive in and live better than we have in the past so investment takes many forms and Indian country

what do you think would be best case scenario for Native Americans United States like I'll sort of give you the magic wand again like what would be best case scenario cuz the strange thing that we have in front of us here is that there is one country the United States but there's not just United States North American citizens here there's also Native Americans of various different right that have their own reservations and as you said they're Sovereign and they can come to make their own decisions what would be what's the magic wand how do you clear up all these problems associated with the mean that the horrific treatment the of everything from alcoholism to the problems with schools to self esteem issues all these problems in North America while also not that the Native Americans in the way I'm looking at it they want to stay a member of their tribe and they don't necessarily want to be just Americans they want to keep their Heritage right universally how does that how do those two things work together how do you how do we all live together in America and yet have these trucks and do it in a way that works best for everybody that's a freaking complicated asked questions even with a magic wand and not rely on others to tell our stories we need to be able to tell our stories and to reteach the general public about who Native Americans are where we've been and where we want to go Custer they've all been stories that have fed into the American politic in a certain way at certain periods of time and what I want is that this is the time now we're tribal Nations have a lot to lose and we're in a current Administration that is trying to terminate us once again what are they doing differently than other administrations they would there are a groups that are attacking the basis of federal Indian law and the rights that we do have so there's there's an act called the Indian Child Welfare Act was passed in 1970 and it's an act that the association was heavily involved in to get past and it started with some work with the Spirit Lake Sioux Tribe and a woman came to the people back then and said they took my kids they stole my children and after investigation it was found it it wasn't just happening it it Spirit Lake but it was happening all over Indian country were state welfare worker children in a disproportionate rate of quarter of all Indian children during that. Of time were taken away from their own families and adopted out to white white families and so the Indian Child Welfare act required state courts to do things before a child was taken away from its tribal Nation there are groups that are working to dismantle that and because they they think it's racist so they so it's it's like they've taken it and in an hour or looking through a backwards mirror so instead of it and to make sure that the children had ties to their culture and their families that that's not in the best interest of children so they're still looking at Indian tribes as we can't take care of her own kids that our way of life is is not acceptable and other adoptive families would be better and what's interesting is that the Indian Child Welfare act doesn't prevent it just requires a certain process to make sure that the involved in that placement adoption process and so that the child can maintain those those connections or that they try to find a family that's more culturally appropriate for the child so there's just been actually it came out of the Goldwater Institute which is a Goldwater when he was what was the senator he actually voted Indian Child Welfare act but today the Goldwater Institute is is actually funding cases around the nation to attack the Indian Child Welfare act what is the what is the reason behind what are they trying to achieve child welfare organizations around the country that say the Indian Child Welfare Act is actually the gold standard in child welfare in that that we should be utilizing those principles that are used in the Indian Child Welfare act to protect all all children to maintain familial connections

cam Hanes went to an Apache reservation in Arizona I believe last year and he said that there is actually a cave that they wind up putting bars on to keep people from stealing the artifacts but there's arrows in there and human remains and they've left them in there I mean just something like that is unbelievably fascinating that this exists and it just exists on this road patient is sitting there and that most people are not even aware of this is like an unbelievably sacred part of History that's right there constantly being looted there was a time in American history 56 where you can get these beautiful cross country Matt's right and many of those Maps would have places where there were Indian artifacts and places that you could go and and it's tough so so a lot of things like that have been published throughout time and so folks that are interested in doing that and make their living doing that you know they rely on those those old documents and and stories were things are and and are still looting and and selling those items today we should be able to look at it you know it was really go to a place the Smithsonian or this or that or and and go see it I think what you're saying is we have to kind of re look at that and that it's not ours to look at and that this is a part of the tribes in the part of your culture and this is not something you can just gawk at even I mean time I never even thought about looking up bones that looking a bone to be respectful and I thought about like Amy Winehouse his head sitting there at the Museum them like that is appropriate mist our Collective history and let us decide for ourselves what we want to share and what we don't want to share and I think what you'll find is is is that Indian nations of shared a lot so this this work on Native American Graves protection and repatriation act where those museums thought they were going to lose all their Collections and their shelves would be cleaned out and no exhibits anymore what they found instead I actually figured out what the hell they've been holding onto this whole time because now they're actually talking to the people who who have experienced expertise and cultural knowledge about these items that are in their collections so all of a sudden information that they never had before and so the relationships that have been built between museums in those institutions and tribal Nation has has a built something completely different than nobody had contemplated before just from talking to Native people and an understanding of what those things are and where they come from and what should be Sheridan and what shouldn't be there still a lot of museums holding out though and usually those are the big well-funded institutions interesting as is I wrote summer wants did you know we're just waiting for a lot of old white people to die I mean that's that's that's really the case that there is just this old perspective this old philosophy does hoarding philosophy not wanting to give things back and stuff right and so the the mission of many museums is to educate the public and there is this kind of arrogant what I would consider an arrogant a way of thinking about about the world like everyone should have access to knowledge and and and tribes don't necessarily feel that same way I so there is that kind of that philosophy and so those Institute people often use the law to work against the repatriation situation in and delays for one thing they don't have the capacity to fight that because there were so many things on their table already and another reason to bring that kind of Discord around these sacred items are around ancestral remains is is difficult so you don't want to bring you no bad energy around something that you need to care for and respect and in and put back in the ground so you know there's a lot of reasons why these bigger institutions are getting away with not following you know there's a lot of reasons why these bigger institutions are getting away with not following the law and they take advantage of it and so that's why my my organization is important cuz we try to help bridge that

where was the situation that was happening during the Obama the Obama Administration where they were trying to put a pipeline through and they were hosing people down and it was on private land and they were going to private land and people are protesting it but they would never force me through anyway where was that in North Dakota and is affected by that so there are some land right issues there but we're talkin about burials and sacred areas not to mention a water quality and the tribes I'm Obama stopped at but as soon as Trump got into office he he he he pushed it forward in and did not consult with tribes and it's been a fight ever since same thing happened with they put a stop to it right before he left office right right right I'm so cynical I wonder how much of that is horseshit how much is Isaiah. You know what's going through it don't worry boys to our reservation like the majority of presidents and he did actually he was adopted into the Crow Nation I think so he adopted tribal member has visited since then that had never been done before and they actually were looking to tribes and building a government-to-government relationship that no one has are really done as well every year they would help hold a big tribal consultation in DC where tribal leaders would come from everywhere and consult with Obama and his administration it was unprecedented and the doors closed so even though he appointed assistant secretary for Indian Affairs a Tara Sweeney who's Alaska native that Administration in the department of interior and under the president has just been so close it's been hard to get anything done or to get hurt or even actually have that government-to-government relationship anymore we've been left out of a lot of the decision-making process it's going on Oliver Indian country that's a that's a very good thing to hear about Obama that he did that and so sad to hear that the Trump Administration is abandon that but it's nice to hear that someone was making an attempt to do that so what I'm getting is it really is no no long-term solution there's no solution you're saying that the trucks going to have to deal with a lot of moving parts and I think I think it you know Indian nations need to determine for themselves how best to handle the problems within their communities but outward-facing to have a strong government-to-government relationship that takes into account not just takes into account but actually require the before effect their rights or or at least some diplomacy or negotiation with varying interest before decisions are made I think that that's the heart of of what needs to happen outward-facing and also we need to take a new look at at our curriculum in schools we really need to most of our correct all of our curriculum and in public schools is about looking at Native American pre pre 1900 so and not caring that into today and who contemporary Native American tribes are and what they're doing to help their people and in what's so wonderful about Indian country today is that though there have there are some places that are extil there some anti-indian hate groups out there that fight tooth-and-nail against anything a tri-band in there kid tries to do to develop economically there are other communities where tribes have been able to bring an economic development whether that's through gaming or otherwise and by the way mean is like no other type of corporate gaming and I think a lot of people don't understand this so if you're a gambler go to Indian casinos cuz that money goes towards Indian Nation government legislated that that money from those casinos go back into Indian Nation governance and are used for jobs and employment and Social Services in all of that relieves the state and other government agencies from from having that that responsibility Oklahoma State Oklahoma Indian nations in Oklahoma about gaming trying to get more money out of game but the Governor Stitt I think is his name and he's trying to negotiate that in order to bring more money into the state so essentially trying to tax that for State purposes denying The Sovereign Nation right well in the Indian gaming regulatory act which was passed it there's so much Federal legislation it's insane of federal Indian law I mean it has its own which is their inherent sovereignty to do so this act came which was kind of a compromise tribes can do what's called Class 2 Gaming which is based on Bingo and and there's electronic bingo games that are kind of like slot machines so types in the state they have to work with the state in order to develop some kind of compacting and revenue sharing of her class 3 gaming so the state the federal government again allowed state to interfere with that inherent tribal sovereignty to regulate their own Economic Development they can that's the class 3 gaming have to do it through the state it's so strange right it's like they get no help at all and then when something comes along that allows them to economically Thrive then the governor's like hold on inferior so back again to those Watershed cases of of Justice Marshall their inferior even being able to assert jurisdiction over non-indians who come into our territory and do something wrong we can't we can't guidelines or the state government's laws the tribe does not have criminal jurisdiction over non-indians with enemy comes in and robbed the casino then the state has to take care of it

is there a great record like a written record of all of the origin stories like you were talking to me about and all of the various languages I mean is all this documented to make sure that we don't lose this better than others and a lot of that is done there's no big text that I can I can give you answer with you all what you ever needed to know about Indians that doesn't exist I think whether they want to share that and and and and how to best educate people about who they are and that's what you know so many other people have told our stories and taking down those histories and all those people are telling the stories from a a western perspective and not from not having their cultural competency competency and having a lived and implemented that way of life so it's really depending on the tribes to determine for themselves how they wanted to put that forward there many tribes that actually have research protocols that if you want to do you want to study you want to research you have to get Authority from the tribal Nation to that and they have to have a say in and whether it was done appropriately so again it's back to us being part of our own narrative is there a documented version of all the stories end of the language so they can be passed out at the real concerned seems to be the one you talk about these incredibly impoverished communities they're the real concern is that some of these stories may be lost or some of these some of the language made would be lost let me tell you the story about the chitamacha who are in Louisiana like surrounded by Marsh is right there in the Gulf of Mexico their last language speaker died in the 1940s and even though they had you know language speakers around them none of those languages were related to theirs their language more closely connected with peoples in in mesoamerica so obviously there was a trade there was a relationship between who the chitimacha are and were with people from Mexico and South America amazing history a tribal languages and songs and dances they started repatriating those back to different tribal Nation so when the chitamacha got these wax cylinder is there like all we have a responsibility here we have to do something with this and so they pulled their Community together has an in building an and in crafting and all of those things pulled all that together with the wax cylinders they got some money from Rosetta Stone and Crete recreated their language that had been lost credible success story know they were able to do that because they had Gaming revenue to help support that and in when you go to the school and when you hear the story about how that happened it's it's it's incredible so there are stories like that among all tribes of how they've been able to recover from what was lost and so it's it's a long process to correct what is happen but there are warriors all over Indian country and that's that's what they're doing every day is is trying to recover what was lost when you read books about Native American culture you just get some sort of the like the most surface of what it must have been like it seems like there's this incredibly Rich history that could could be lost in time and that would be a horrible horrible shame it's right here in front of us and it's it's here right now and the fact that someone like you work so hard to get this message out here and to let people know what what is actually happening and the plight of these American Indians in the tribes and what they're still going through today and this is not a battle to get this message out here and to let people know what what is actually happening and the plight of these American Indians in the tribes and what they're still going through today and this is not a battle that happened in the eighteen hundreds is a battle that's happening today everyday everyday

what what is currently a major Focus for you cultural items back to their Affiliated tribes any institution that received Federal funding or federal agencies to work towards repatriation of items that they've received overtime back to their tribes but there are also tons of ancestors and items in in international Museum so we're working on developing strategies to go after those because a lot of those countries there there has been kind of a a real thing about the purpose of museums and in public education regarding indigenous peoples and how do we decolonize these institutions and so trying to work in some countries are easier than others because if you have sacred religious items from American indigenous Societies in some museums across the waters their country considers it their cultural property so you need an act of their country's government in order to DSS in those items in and return them home so there are some countries that are much more difficult to work with than others but we're in the process of developing strategy to help we're also trying to watch private collectors and people about the importance of of returning cultural patrimony and other sacred items that received over time whether or not or is it a legal obligation to do their there's definitely an ethical and moral obligation to return these items so that their culture is can be Revitalize and let those items can be put back to use so that's one Shenzhen in foreign governments took to work on these issues sacred sites I just was before the indigenous people subcommittee in the house a few weeks ago talking about what's going on at the border and bottom they were blowing up another section you know so it sits and that is happening because there was a law in 2005 that allowed Department of Homeland Security to waive all these environmental laws and if there was an emergency to do so and so the administration is is saying that the border wall is is an emergency that allows them to waive all these environmental laws and so it's not just about protecting sacred sites all the other environmental concerns all the the animal Migration Birds plants and water quality that are being affected by the border wall because people strong like think we need a 30-foot you know tall border so it's overworking we continue to work to protect sacred sites along the border wall where where they're doing this do all amenities berries have been designated as sacred science and so is that what you're saying they don't identify the bones New York for the rest of the culture that might have existed there and identify it was clearly about how do we protect and how do we make sure that the tribal consultation and other options can be presented so that the environment and other areas are pretty and the Republican Congressman that was there it was really quite seems like a nice guy basically said there is more damage caused by migrant traffic trash and defecating then there is by blowing up the ground and so that is the part interior Homeland Security and and republicans in Congress are saying about that border wall stop and think about how ridiculous you can pick up trash you can pick up s*** you can't pick up once you blow up sacred sites bones forever and replaceable these are irreplaceable resources definitely challenged him about that but you know it's I think the laws on their side is it safe to say that there's many areas that you're talkin about along the border that are probably undiscovered cuz you're at you're dealing with things that are potentially thousands of years old. Remember undiscovered has different meanings so people do not that they try to protect and so that's why consultation is so important and working with tribe so you can understand what's going on on the ground but usually they do some kind of of of minor investigation and supposedly that was done that is being dumb but nothing's being done to protect it so it's this is this area is essentially a burial ground from a thousand years ago and our ancestors use this all that school story we're going to put a wall here and those opportunities for public comments comment have been completely waived those stories always weird me out when someone's building an apartment building and they stopped construction because they found some sort of a burial site or anything like how many of those are out there I mean how many how many areas where people are digging into the ground they are going to find some incredible archaeological Discovery and it's it's getting you know smash by a bulldozer a lot of our a lot of the context for what was happening here before Europeans came is gone because we just destroyed all the evidence of it you know so that's why I often the archaeological investigations have have move forward is as they look at discrete sites without connecting the dots in a more holistic about o what's happened in a certain area so all most of our archaeological context and all that evidence is gone and it continues to be looted by amateur archaeologists and of course you know I've worked on many different developments across the country where different developments across the country where you know the bulldozers come into the Phil

you hear an origin story like the one we were talking about people coming out of the earth what how do you decipher that well I've actually been to that origin site and it looks like a female it's a place where we were birthed it it it's at a beautiful amazing and almost shocking place in Mississippi kids that were no longer connected with and it's our lives today or so out of context with the natural world that we don't know it's possible anymore we've been so separated from that Rose's you think that's possible though that seems highly unlikely there cuz I'll give you if you had money to bet I give you a thousand bucks and you can put it on this or that you can put it on well we probably people got here by all sorts of means the way people got Everywhere by all sorts of means or they came out of the ground like flowers or Adam and Eve stories that they create our identity they create who we are at the center of our being and they have lessons to teach us and they also remind us what we're responsible for and that's what I'm saying that we've been so separated from that part of us and our connection to the natural world into the Earth from the Earth we were put in certain places to be responsible and care take for that area so a lot of these stories what they're they're essentially trying to connect people with the idea that they are part of this great Earth they're part of this beautiful ecosystem and maybe this origin story is devised to sort of explain to them in a way that makes a clear connection is that make sense absolutely absolutely but but but it's but it's part of who many tribal nations are this is our place this is our homeland this is what we're responsible for and we haven't been able to do what we were put here to do our purpose has been ripped away from us so so a lot of the work we do is to try to you know work Birds environmental healing and try to bring lands back into our land holding so that we can care take for that land that's not that's not all over there are some places in Indian country that extract the environment people for the environment and nations are sovereign the tribes are sovereign so they get to decide what's best for them and whether they're going to be sustainable or not

look at the future of Native American tribes in the United States and again as you said you know Native Americans that are in these reservations are United States citizens but it's it's such an unusual situation that really really have a comparison to Canada with their first Nations what what do you think happens in the future what when you go from 1900 you were talking about the the path of 1902 today abysmal hundred twenty years other than the economic success of the casinos what do you what do you anticipate happening in the next hundred years it's it's hard to tell I know a lot of tribes have been diversifying their Economic Development without or cultures were won't survive in fact many elders and you may have read it and in Black Elk speaks that no longer who we are without our culture without our languages in likely will no longer be recognized by the federal government unless we are Indian enough things are really important to who we are in the next hundred years and I think it's it's those things that we will be rebuilding of the next hundred years healing from the last and and moving forward with a new-found understanding of who yarn and a stronger identity in NN self what that actually looks like an and what's important I think that we are so still so dependent on the great white father and what happens with us politics and whether we have a voice there or not we've got great organizations that help advocate for Indian Country in general National Congress of American Indians which has been around for about 75 years and it helps Lobby and educate Congress and keeps tribes informed about what's going on in politics and advocate for many of those interests there groups like ours that are advocating for more cultural revitalization and strengthening ID and protecting our use so I think part of what we've been building is is really a coalition of of organizations and and tribes to strengthen who we are and kind of correct the misfortunes of our history I know we we still have Tribal Nations out there that where are living with egregious poverty and hand and issues that still seems so far away from being corrected but you know like my grandma always said where there's hope where there's life there's hope so I think we just continue to I mean weaves freaking survived for this long and this coronavirus isn't going to take us out either I mean we're going to continue to to tipis forward and and and try to have a better future for our kids just like anybody else just like anybody else and I think that's that's what's important is that we're not were not on the stage with everyone else we're not at the table where decisions are being we're not in the room where it happens but we respect them as a culture like they're they're thought of as we're not invading Mexico and I'm saying and whether or not you agree we're not looking at them as something and fit we're looking at them is another country we don't look at Native Americans the same way we look at maybe it's because you are also United States citizens they would look at them the same way we have the same like the respect for people that live in a Sovereign Nation another Sovereign Nation you know this is a Sovereign Nation inside of our nation it doesn't I think you would agree doesn't get the same respect that other Sovereign Nation 500 absolutely we have the same like the respect for people that live in a Sovereign Nation another Sovereign Nation even though this is a Sovereign Nation inside of our nation it doesn't I think you would agree doesn't get the same respect that other Sovereign Nation 500 absolutely

what can be done like what what can the average person do I see people walking around with masks on wearing gloves is that nonsense largely first of all and then they had nine people that Simpsonville contact us we want to follow up with nail agreed well they got infected and so in the very first hours just feeling bad sore throat they went in and sampled the throats their their saliva their nose for virus they did blood they did stool they did he earn and they found it at that very moment when they first got sick and and that's where we're concerned because that's the kind of transmission it's always have said and try to stop influenza virus transmission like trying to stop the wind you know we've never had any successfully do that other than vaccine and we don't have a vaccine here so what's happening is it people in public spaces are getting infected and the way you need to address that is unfortunately if you're older over 55 years Mundelein health problems which unfortunate lot of Americans do we have obesity then right now you don't want to be in large public spaces and trying to potentially get infected so you can take care of that part as far as I can probably tells you where I can't we can talk about this where I can have a vaccine anytime soon that's Happy Talk what we know we can close schools one of the big challenges we have right now if we closed schools what we accomplished and influenza virus brothers and sisters and sometimes it's always great for a kind of effect on flu kids are not getting sick one of the really good news features of this disease only 2.1% of the cases were and we have that happened there's a disease called infectious hepatitis hepatitis A where we have outbreaks in daycares and wait we now have an outbreak is cuz it's transmitted through the stool fecal-oral is Mom and Dad in the daycare recent study done showed that 38% of nurses today in this country who are working in the medical area have kids to school and suddenly were closed schools for to take care of those kids you know they continue is Nani so I actually started MMA training as just a kid to cake ball Austin by Blake so I was you know that was when I was 214 pounds so that's something that obviously when you're when I'm farting and you say 240th and O Lottery machines that was about nine years ago and holding now and and I want to play football with my mates and I'll go drive away in the tots and I wrestling and stuff like that so you know I was just something that yeah I end up just playing for the night so I sort of gave it up and I was actually pretty good at so we wanted to win the Nationals like in his direction is known as Big in Australia as it is over here but you know what's the wind strength Championship twice and stuff like that haven't been training for a year you'd only done for you used to have a game tonight with cyc Place Boys Club it's just usually don't have locked games not tonight had wrestling day and I just went there one time and another tryna was just coming into trying so I just thought it was actually pretty good termites Albina Albina speak since I've been this big ol or going to be so I can look this all blocked since I was at 12 and fight with this woman John Whaley who is the strawweight champion from China's crazy epic like one of the best fights in history at the end of it you want his head I saw that look like a Frankenstein forehead with makeup on Landing next door that would be ridiculous no one cares double forehead now it's a double triple forehead snake and it was even the whole fight the whole fight was like back and forth back and forth back and forth was amazing and Donald Cerrone fought Conor McGregor Conor McGregor Lowe's and broke his nose so he came out of clinch like seconds into the fight his nose is bleeding and then he got head kicked in he got pummeled and I know it it. The fight in 40 seconds all the Innings it's like that's just how it goes yeah but fighting can end in 10 seconds we had fights it invented I think we'll who's got the record now it was Duane Ludwig but traveling because of this that's my wife asked me a lot like she she was really concerned about me coming here and I was like two we go we got to sell the game so I just got back from Vegas and I was a little nervous while I was over there but I did everything normal I went to workout thousand people at the T-Mobile Arena all stuffed into this one area and everybody was back to normal or what is high five in the hog and then Fighters me Jesus Christ won't talk about people exposed yeah Tyson Fury trying to lick that dude's blood and I don't think he's alright I'm worried about my parents for sure Mayberry should lose some weight and I'm worried about them I'm worried about people with respiratory problems you know a good friend of mine has a daughter by cystic fibrosis know it's rain he canceled his tour Everlast he canceled his tour because of that I mean that he's got a real concern mean see how the government handles it was one of things about love or hate Trump he's willing to do some s*** that's a lot of people think would be unpopular like closed down traffic yeah closed down flights coming in from other countries that are infected that have high rates of infection you know I mean I wonder what they're going to do and something I think something really radical has to be done to try to start the slow down this this f****** Illness but I don't know what they can do are we waiting for it to are we waiting for it to go away like I read a quote that like when the weather changes it'll little stop or something that's horseshit Michael osterholm set of straight on that that's nonsense he's on his second have any effect on it what happens if I just run through the population and people develop immune systems that can handle it you develop an immunity went to catch it and for many people it's just going to be like a bad cold for many peoples going to be like you're coughing and your in you just you just try to get better stay home drink a lot of fluids be healthy do your best and eat healthy and then get out and you're going to have an immunity to it and that's going to what's going to happen on the other end I saw one guy he had it and it was fairly mild and then they quarantine and he got over it was getting over it and getting better than the quarantine him with a bunch of people that also had it and they got it even worse or how he got it again and probably wasn't fully developed overwhelmed yeah and then it just overwhelmed his I mean system cuz it was always basically quarantine with a bunch of other people that were really really sick but he got through it and he was talking about it and all these poor people that are stuck on boats oh my God crazy this is going to kill a cruise ship industry

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thanks too-big-to-fail the banks failed in the people fail unbelievable man being all this s*** that we're spending the Venezuela's s*** all these sanctions it is Venezuela coup I mean were you following not that was insane walls falling it as much as you were sort of putting as much you were putting a very alternative you supposed to like what we're saying and either left or right-wing publication and then you face a lot of resistance because of that right right but you were there yes yes I was there and that's why I knew with my own I mean I saw with my own eyes the reality on the ground and what do you think is happening over there so what is happening over there I mean if you pull Venezuelan themselves they will say that their quality of life has lessened because of us sanctions to back in 2015 Obama declared Venezuelan national security threat very random there was no threat opposed to the US but it was just a kind of start the sanctions on them but who knows who knows pressure I mean there's always been pressured because of course of us is always hated Maduro and hated Hugo Chavez and the US Empire doesn't forget and it doesn't forgive and you know going back to 2002 Busch tried to engineer a coup against Hugo Chavez that didn't work and so what we've done with these Civil Society organizations is trying to foment radical discontent on the ground in Venezuela you know get some sort of Uprising the guy one why do was just some guy plucked from obscurity who was just well known in Georgetown in Washington DC much more well-known there then he wasn't even in Venezuela so you know this was completely engineered it was totally concocted no Venezuelans really knew who he was I think like 80% of Venezuelans have no idea who won why do was but the economy went into a spiral because oil prices dropped they would have been able to pick back up their economy but unfortunately the sanctions were so debilitating that it went to complete free-fall Venezuela's not a socialist country that's actually a vast majority is Private Industry and a lot of those private CEOs are very anti-government long story short is that the coup was initiated you know during the Trump Administration after he slapped like 70 sanctions on Venezuela and we're talking about medicine food all the things that they're saying that they right there trying to Stage these fake Aid Caravan deliveries I was all bulshit what they're doing is actually preventing the delivery from food and medicine from getting to Venezuela and then this crew was a failure because the resilience of the Venezuelan people they believe that they have a democracy they do have a democracy it's actually more free than our democracy there's not a dictatorship there Maduro won the presidential election last year he won the presidential election that us lobbied the opposition candidates to not run against him so then they can say it was that was a dictatorship and so he want he won the popular vote and they tried to implement all these things and they've been blocked and the opposition keeps crying to the us that they need help that they need to be invaded it's pretty disturbing when you have opposition candidate stain slap sanctions on us invade our country help us Trump help us I mean it's absolutely ridiculous but when I was on the ground I saw a flourishing democracy I saw dozens of people hundreds of people who said that they the process there that they believe in the bolivarian movement and that their tra'ves mode till death and we don't understand because those people's voices are totally censored from corporate media the only Venezuelan that we hear from and corporate media are rich opposition either you know expats or people who just have fled and what do we hear from corporate corporate take so this is even Elizabeth Warren even Bernie Sanders has been terrible on this I mean it's it's really bad I mean their take on a corporate media if you're looking at Fox News they'll say we need to overthrow Maduro and and everyone's starving and it's a failed State they never mention the sanctions they never mention the fact that us sanctions just from 2017 alone has killed 40,000 Venezuela's this was just a study out by steeper 40,000 Venezuelan have died from Trump's sanctions from insulin shipments not getting there primarily a lot of other things medicine the people have not been getting and they are dying so that is absurd and I we we like to think of sanctions as kind of like the soft power that just Target delete that the country know it's an act of war and that's exactly what's happening to Iran and Trump's implemented sanctions all over the world in a really devastating way but but the corporate media will say we to overthrow them their failed State their you know there a dictatorship reality know they're not their democracy and they we don't like their politics that's really what it is their politics are politics are that they nationalized the oil and that's really where it comes from this fake Ambassador that was trying to get into the embassy here Carlos Vecchio he's an XX on lawyer and you see all these people who are involved in ExxonMobil and all the oil industries that were flourishing in Venezuela before Chavez got up got elected and they just want their profits back they want their money back they don't like the fact that Chavez took the profits from the oil companies that's what that's what the the problem is Joe and it's amazing it's amazing how transparent it is so ever since these failed coup attempts over the last decade the US has been fomenting regime change through the Civil Society organizations usaid offshoots in the country and I'm basically trying to foment violent unrest violent unrest of the extent that they burn down streets there's lynch mobs I mean when I was there during the height of the violence in 2017 like 200 people died news just kept saying like insinuating that Maduro was going out there with police forces and actually gunning down people in the streets it couldn't be further from the truth we looked at all the deaths we broke then I'll down we looked at death records and we found out that the opposition lynch mobs are actually responsible for the overwhelming majority of deaths in the streets so that's happening people get lynched for being black they get lunch for being Chubbies now these people are targeting maternity clinics hospitals basically any Enclave of government services because that's what this is about it's about I'm kind of a fascistic bent of the opposition wanting to take back the power from the poor the poor people got power and they didn't like it and that's what the Crux of the problem is but when you're looking at the corporate media it's an absurdly cartoonish brush that's being painted and if you look at the liberal media with Maddow and all these other people they either don't talk about it or they say Maduro needs to let the Aiden even saw Bernie and Elizabeth Warren say Maduro needs to let the Aiden let the Aiden Maduro the 8th was the Kool-Aid was was a trick they're getting 8 everyday from countries that are not trying to actively overthrow them but we staged this big stunts on the border of Columbia and by the way Columbia is actually suffering more than Venezuela Colombia is in dire poverty there's people getting assassinated every week who are labor leaders and teachers I went there and I talked to a teacher who is living in Exile cuz you scared for his f****** life but we don't hear about that right because of their allies with the US so it's cynical stunt to try to get this humanitarian International outcry to say oh my God people are dying people are hungry it's not a matter of that there's no food is that food is very expensive because there's an actual economic War being waged by Massive corporations in the country and just external entities Weatherby the Trump Administration or us multinationals that RX fixating preventing Aid in food from coming in and the aid of their they're claiming that they need to excel basically a hoax at the stunt on to try to get the regime change to to happen we just saw Richard Branson stage some ridiculous big concert on the border of Columbia and they had like what they said were Aid trucks on this big bridge and got CNN on the ground being like it was it was fake it was a truck full of like I don't know like very miniscule things but they wanted to try to Ram these trucks through how to get the soldiers up in arms and try to get them to the fact it hasn't worked they've been trying over and over again to try to get something going and basically at the end of the day what happened was just a giant money grab it was basically a money laundering scheme you look at these people who are the opposition leaders now one why do Carlos pecchio they've just stolen all the money back maybe they realize the crew wasn't going to go forward but they basically ended up stealing at least 70 million dollars in just putting it right in these people's bank account pretty shocking I mean you have international as an international conspiracy to try to take the money back from from the people whose money was was basically administered by Maduro friends at all the poor I mean poor people got a voice and I never had a voice in that country their entire lives and not country was you know it was a colonial holdover and to the bolivarian movement started Midol across Latin America and it was scary was a giant threat to the US establishment and actually that's why I tell us where was founded tell us where the the the organization that I used to sell the show to it was started as kind of a counter to This Global hegemony and his corporate narrative trying to overthrow a democratically elected leaders but it's shocking when you see like the bank of England seized all of this gold that was rightfully maduro's They seized it illegally all of these days send International body just stole all this money and they just gave it to these opposition leaders so even though the opposition leaders weren't able to take you no take the power back in the country they still have taken all the money and no one's talking about that and everyone just acting like this is some crazy dictatorship that needs are saving how dare you do we think we are I'm really going into the nuts and bolts of what the economic crisis really is and my partner Mike Risner did epic take down of John Oliver you know the liberal media is just as bad John Oliver did some f****** absurdly false kind of like analysis of the whole Venezuela situation and we just went through and debunked every single line of it I mean it was extremely disingenuous I bet he had someone who wrote All right so I bet he probably has no real knowledge nor could you really unless you extensively started at the way you have and especially if you have feet on the ground right I think that most people just in order to understand a complex nuanced problem like some sort of an international conflict that were involved in that has to do with nationalizing oil like God damn you going to do a lot of work do you do if you run a show like last week tonight or whatever it was called Define that with a lot of these so-called online experts when you talk to them one-on-one and you get them off the Record without notes like they're just people there's this guy that u n human rights investigator named Alfred de zayas that I did this big interview with and he said he tried to propose this to the UN saying there is no no humanitarian crisis there this is all fake yes people are suffering and dying but it's not because of maduro's policies and Corruption because of us sanctions that exceeded the economy in Peru any sort of recovery from taking place and the economy still in free-fall they can't work with International bodies again we have the threat of sanctions with institutions that now work with Venezuela so they've been isolated they've been isolated from the world so was the idea that they just put these sanctions employees allowed this political unrest take Play support the opposition and then just have a slow burn until it all collapses and swoop in and fix everything and make it a part of the United States government and then these people will not have the flu any longer and another thing that they hate is that maduro's given 2 million free homes to people that's something that's completely unheard of to maybe Americans but that's one thing that one why do said that he would do he immediately implemented a new hydrocarbons law or he was proposing to implement a new hydrocarbons law which is again in ovary privatizing the oil and also just immediately privatizing all of the social services that Maduro and Chavez did so it it's it's pretty shocking what would happen I'm pretty devastating what would happen if if y dos could you did succeed and the whole Trump Administration I mean it's not just Venezuela its Nicaragua and Cuba to I mean we can't go to Cuba anymore we have to create some genocide or blockade that prevents food and medicine from getting in there to what was the whizzer adjustable did they say why they're doing this while they're imposing these new laws it just John Bolton's bizarre speech about the Troika of tyranny number the number the axis of Evil Nicaragua that is weird one right the Cuba ones is what what has happened over there nothing actually give out free HIV prevention pills and they act up which big Pharma it's so difficult because it's so new ones but that's you know I encourage everyone to maybe check out venezuelanalysis and Empire files and tell us or if they want to learn more about that situation

yeah I think you nailed it when you said the 2016 elections of sort of the awakened this reptile brain cuz that's what it seems like you're seeing you seeing so many people to think that there's a war going on like a war in this country right instead of discussing things they don't want to discuss things down that's part of some of the motivation behind in justification for deplatforming people wiping them out like remove them get them out you know we're at War right now we have to fix this we have to get a woman right game and you know like this kind of s*** but you see like they they feel like they're in ideological war that's why identity politics is so fascinating because it's just been adopted by The Establishment by the liberal wing of the establishment to try to Electric people that were somehow a progressive society that it's all just like corporatism with you know under the flag in the banner of like social politics and identity politics and it's completely absurd I mean with Barack Obama we thought that we were in racial Society cuz we had a black president and we know that that's absolutely a falsehood so I just think that we're just going down the wrong path here and neoliberalism has really done a number on this country in the world and we're going to see kind of more authoritarian fascist policies take root because people are really down and out with with how capitalism has morphed and has strangled basically the economy it's really disturbing because you know you're looking at like left identity politics but it's under the banner of capitalism so really it's just about privatization neoliberalism is just about privatization so it's not about like leftist you know social is politics Bernie Sanders is not a socialist he's a Democratic Socialist which means that he just wants social democracy he's not talking about abolishing private Industries not talking about nationalizing anything you just talked about having workers have a seat at the table and getting share so we're just kind of gone off the Wayside of like rhetoric and we just have no idea how to talk about these things in like a fairway because things are so heated and ideological and people are just blinded I think and don't really understand these issues well enough and it's really disturbing because we're at a point in our country where we need to have conversations we don't just want sound bites but going back to the center shifts the consolidation of corporate media people don't have the platform they don't have the voice to get these ideas out there which is why your show is so important I mean having people like me like Tulsi I mean bringing out these Concepts and and Shifting the Consciousness is very very important when people are hearing the same thing over and over and over again from one side and then an opposite view over and over again from Another Side it's it's very difficult to have and understanding what the f*** is going on it's it's very confusing to most people and I think they tend to either just give up or they tend to just find whatever side seems to get them the most social credit or the most most to reasonable the perspective in their terms like is whether it's left-wing or right-wing and then just support that just just given to that and then just have this pattern that they adopt this this conglomeration of opinion adopt and then they're so busy with our jobs are so busy with your family so busy with his wife and then all this other s*** when you're saying you know the deregulation all this other s*** you're seeing when the stuff that caused the banking crisis that stuff all the stuff is going on and it's going on without their knowledge it's all happening underneath the surface and then something erupts like the economic collapse of 2007/2008 and they like what the f*** is happening I didn't see this coming now the economy crashes we have to buy out all these f****** Banks and then then it rebuild back up and people are still doing the same goddamn thing they're still working and trying to get ahead and try it and then all this is happening behind the scenes and it's so incredibly difficult to pay attention to all of it develop a nuanced perspective of what the problems are how to fix them and then who was actually going to support a real tangible solution versus who's just saying some Elizabeth Warren type s*** to get elected the streets because there's no person who's going to change this there's no top-down you no implementation that's really going to revolutionize society and get people living wage and get people Healthcare even Bernie said I'm not going to be able to do this I need you to come out to get my back but yeah I mean there's nowhere in the country that you can live if you're living on minimum wage and actually afford a two-bedroom apartment I mean that's the reality here but when we bailed out the banks in 2008 no one had a Reddit about how we're going to pay for that I mean it was just it was just kind of understood okay we're going to pay and give the banks the bailout what about f****** us don't we deserve a bailout what the people and give the banks the bailout what about f****** us do we deserve a bailout about the people in the people fail

yeah it's it's it's sick I mean you texted me that video of the kid you know another medic was just shot so there's something crazy. Bilal Muhammad Uso brother UFC fighters out of his Instagram and I texted you that it's so against another so difficult that put their head in the sand and don't want to look at some of these atrocities and don't want to look at some of the video you sent me a soldier shooting at people that are not doing anything right I mean yeah I mean their whole argument is that it's all Hamas and they're human Shields any we looked through hundreds of hours of footage that these people gave us and it's mind-blowing footage it looks absolutely cinematic and epic but the footage is heroin and I didn't see one weapon I didn't see one not one weapon it was literally people with slingshots throwing rocks at tanks kind of a Rite of it's very symbolic they're not trying to hurt anyone no Israeli soldiers have been hurt or killed during 2018 which is what the film looks at his is through 2018 of the great March of return and there's not any weapon there's no militants Hamas has nothing to do with these with the March and it just shocking I mean it's shocking how many war crimes were committed on camera and it just amazing the propaganda that's just told to us about what this is and why they have the right to kill people that posed no threat to them when you were on last time we talked about this one of my email accounts was flooded with literally a chain letter the same letter like denouncing you and your lies and your anti-semitic protective in your anti-israeli perspective it was it was weird because it was the same email AstroTurf gas fake now that the campaign what has a lot of money behind it yeah that's a lot of money behind that I mean the film is mind-blowing go to Gaza fights for freedom.com if you want to check it out when it when it gets released and it just really on incontrovertible Joe I mean even if it were a war between armies all of these things that Israel is done are still documented war crimes and very Grievous violations of international law and were talking about direct targeting and assassinations by Israeli snipers of disabled full of children rest and Medics and that's what who resigned was she was a medic and as you mentioned another medic just passed away was killed rather I hate to use the passive voice cuz you always hear Palestinians died know they were murdered her whole being murdered by snipers and they pose no threat to them and so the film looks at this you went investigation basically during the march in 2018 and documents all of the Grievous crimes and atrocities conducted by the Israeli military and I mean you know Palestine has a right to defend itself and this isn't even what that is but if you look at the UN Charter of 1978 they say that you know occupied people's and besiege people have the right actually for armed self-defense and in the fact that this is not even want that is that there's literally people going out there in peace with their bare chest holding flags and they're getting killed and and sniped there's so many amputations I mean just in 28 phone numbers 35 kids were killed 900 shot the kid who went up to the fence and just put a Palestinian flag and she was shot in the head and died instantly it just goes on and on and on and so you know we're just trying to document this to really kind of push the needle for accountability because these laws have been agreed upon by the International Community some of the 100 years ago and I have kind of a rogue State acting with complete impunity knowing that it has Total Protection from the US Empire and given more freedom than ever under Trump with this Golan Heights thing and the moving of the Jerusalem Embassy or the moving of the embassy to Jerusalem I mean it's just it's abysmal and it needs to be stopped and no they can't control the narrative any longer because we're seeing this with our own eyes and that's what this film does is really lays it all out have you concentrate focus on so many different f*****-up part of your world but you sell your very friendly and upbeat like see like you're laughing at this how do you manage to maintain your sanity because I I I have a hard time if I just watch one of your pieces I watch one of your clips and I just got bought the rock I just want to cry and I don't know what to do and I want to hug my kids but you're in this year in the trenches every day and you go to these places all the time how do you how do you do it well I think that well first of all I go and Camp a lot I can denature a lot which is also kind of depressing knowing that you know climate change and blah blah but I try to get out and see the beauty of the world and understand my privilege especially as an American citizen because I don't have we can't afford to not be aware and we can't afford to not be educated and talking about these issues especially when our government is subsidizing this around the world 10 million dollars everyday what are tax dollars you know I mean this is this is going on and it's so close to home and we have to acknowledge our privilege and acknowledge the situation which is we have agency we have agency to Lobby our government to change this and to stop these criminal Acts it's so close to home and we have to acknowledge our privilege and acknowledge the situation which is we have agency we have agency to Lobby our government to change this and to stop these criminal Acts

no no looking for other people it's like Subaru warning like it's a selfish thing to be generous and kind selfish and light waves cuz it really helps yourself cuz you need to help yourself and you're a loser if you don't get rich and all the s*** it's all these impossible you know goals that we can't do without actually helping each other know the biggest losers right goddamn you're super success rate on your still depressed wow you've built a shity house like your foundations sucks who you are as a person would like the way you treat people the way you view the world the way you love your friends and your family like that's your foundation and if you become successful and you have that Foundation I feel like you can still be happy but if you become successful and you just s*** that Foundation just wanted to make it I'm just going to make it to call that stuff I don't need that I don't need love I don't need any of that and then you make it and you just sitting there alone tomb that's why I think that's why a lot of people like Trump because they think of him like I've actually heard this term like a blue collar billionaire it's like what no big deal to him that is a small won't loan now that's what's really bizarre but yeah he's someone I think Matt Taibbi described him as he's like what a stupid poor person thinks I was a rich person oh my God yeah oh my God it's literally just let's give them jobs meaning let's have corporations like basically profit off the occupation what's interesting to me is that even right-wing Trump supporters in particular to say right-wing Trump supporters do not seem to like them do not seem to like Jared Kushner Orlando they don't like the fact that his daughter is working at the White House and that the son-in-law is there running things like they're very disturbed by that they don't like that yeah nepotism totally recommend it to everyone what is listening Michael Moore's newest oh my it's amazing but the first 20 minutes just shows like how Hillary lost and it shows that Jared Kushner actually lobbied to have sicko in theaters all across the gun he was for socialized medicine and he was like working hand-in-glove with Michael Moore to roll this out it just shows you how fickle they are in like how they just have no actual values have sex think they do no I think it yourself in a cup and she gets a turkey baster if she's worth it in there at you catch them show where the host is just like Ivanka she's like what it what would you have the most in common with your dad and she's like real estate and golf and she's like Trump what do you have most in common and he's like well I would say sex whoa yeah says that well with your baby sex stalking you know and when you're always talking over a good chance of really contemplate what you're saying it was always just talking and then once you talk like so many times during the campaign Trail just seems like it would say things and then you would just have to like justify what he said when I was younger and then I would have to try to figure out a make that stupid thing make sense right what's the favorite thing you have in common with your father either real estate or golf Donald with your daughter well I was going to say 6 but I can relate. it's a good opportunity to say sex like he would date her you know hopefully have big tits or whatever like you said really inside good good point I don't actually know who Tiffany is I mean I think he had her with the Marlow's very attractive so it's weird but that is weird some sort of inbred lighting actually no Tiffany's I mean I think he had her with the Marlow's very attractive so it's weird but that is weird some sort of inbred

this time at altitude what is actually happened to your body that causes you to be really depleted for 6 months like what what's what's happening the other than the fact that you were at high-altitude low-oxygen like what's taking place so one of the things that happen to high-altitude that you don't really think about too much which is your body is not getting so they are actually has just as much oxygen in it as it's not that sea level but the air is less dense so that means as you breathe in the air you're literally getting less oxygen to your blood Les dents plus nitrogen and oxygen oxygen but in a less dense form so in the same volume of breath you're getting less actual O2 into your blood what are you getting out the toot I guess carbon dioxide if imma let you know when I'm in my most Elite Physical shape you my resting heart rate during a professional travel and career like 35 getting out of bed you know 38 low enough that if you weren't a professional athlete you went to a doctor with a heart rate at 35 to be like oh my God like you're going to die there something wrong with you when I like it's also a key marker of helpfulness you know that of course but what happens is your body can't probably biking so little oxygen even if your blood is acclimatizing you're sleeping with a resting heart rate at altitude on Everest it like 90 beats per min so you know that's pretty elevated heart rate 24 hours a day in Fremont Kaiser 139 days straight so essentially you're just your heart is as I took even at rest and so what that does to your body in terms of humor throws your hormones around it obvious do you lose body weight body fat body composition changes all of those things really shifted happen in a pretty intense way so coming back like actually just getting your heart rate back down getting your you know of parasympathetic nervous system so just relax and then stress-free and in all that kind of stuff it takes a while for sure so what do you do to help yourself recover when you come back as a specific kinds of food do you eat or supplements you take you know I'll start the few different things that I find to be to work by 1 sleep I mean I think that sleep in our culture in general is really underrated I think you know if you go in the corporate world never once I pull this all night or I working 120 hours a week by their side out of whatever like you know I'm telling you a story about pushing through the night and going there's a time and a place for big bushes without sleep and like we are not built to do that sustainably in any way shape or form so in my training when I'm training for these things I prioritize sleep I prioritize taking a nap the same thing when I'm recovering so really making sure I get that sleep is most for me the most natural way to recover and top of that soft tissue work I'm a huge believer in massage as well as chiropractor chiropractor since I was a little kid and to me that makes a big difference just to have everything and Alignment everything kind of you know working well fish and my body and then yes supplements you know definitely reducing inflammation so for me gothelf is huge so getting those probiotics getting the right stuff in you know it's easy to have you know that leaky God or things we are not getting nutrition observe absorb properly and I think we all in various States you know you deal with that you don't the standard American diet for sure will lead into that for a lot of people so getting that nutrition clean and right asleep rest recovery nutrition and then you know I've definitely been taking a lot of supplements to my life I diet for surely do that for a lot of people so getting that nutrition clean and right seriously press recovery nutrition and then you know I've definitely been taking a lot of supplements to my life I are more toward the whole food supplements these days but I find nothing's like tumeric that really reduce inflammation and your magnesium definitely helps a lot so there's a few things that I take daily but I think sleeping in a Clean Diet will goes a long way

nutrition Journey was actually fascinating and to be honest it in my people said well well how come other people died trying why the other people not be able to do it cuz one of the guy ran out of food and so when I was looking at this journey and we're grammar calling it The Impossible first like how am I going to make the impossible possible and I thought that the nutrition piece of it was going to be huge I actually my dad's an organic farmer in Hawaii like Whole Food health and nutrition is been a big part of my personal journey and so I found a company that was really in it with me is this Standard Process their whole food supplement company I'm really involved in Chiropractic and acupuncture and they presented them with this and I said hey what are you guys think I get there way to like figure this out and they're like well we have 20 of the Top Doctors nutritionist food scientist you know on our staff and its Innovation Center around nutrition like come in the lab with us and so they never done this with an athlete before but they were intrigued and so I actually went and did a years-long worth of 100 + blood test vo2max all this Fitness testing all around my physiology and they created ultimately a custom food solution is a bar form essentially called the Collin bar that was all Whole Food ingredient there was no young chemical Two Rivers anything with your coconut oil you know seeds nuts you know all these different pieces of macronutrients as well as micronutrients Blends that I need it but custom tailored to my physiology and that's what I came in that with the bulk of what I ate 7000 calories per day I was burning 10,000 so even at 7,000 I was losing about a pound of day Way of Wade almost to my body's that's why I needed to get bigger but these calling bars just burned super officially in my body like it was at the Perfect Blend of everything so eating the same thing every single day 54 days may have gotten a little bit boring but my body was just it was actually pretty dialed-in now when they did this and they they made these custom bars for you did they know how many times you know how many calories you're going to be burning while you're pulling is 300-pound sled was it depended upon the conditions the snow was more packed or icy difficult if it was soft right 100% so I mean we had to do is our best guess honestly we had to just say let's use our best gas I got that a bunch of smart people smarter than me or in this room all these doctors he's phds around this and we had to make some assumptions and ultimately they're like okay you're going to burn 10000 calories let's get you ten thousand calories in these bars and we started trying to wait on this land were like that'll be a 500-pound flat like can you make this LED light enough to pole if we can get the nutrition right how efficiently does that burn in your body how much can your stomach absorb you're hungry the whole time more or less yeah freeze dried field at Lincoln chunk of Colin barwacz got to do what it was like something green and alive if I sounded like avocado and Sally notepad a big burger too but then of course I eat my stomach has shrunk right I hate this big meal, call my stomach kind of hurts but emotionally I was like I'm back in the real world babies that was like it was just like my stomach was hurting Excel your body would like you probably craving all that life by Clive things green the exact vegetables and if it's weird to say me like I'm from Portland Oregon you know it's pretty green part of the world up there in the Pacific Northwest and set you're not even just the food component but and there's nothing alive out that there's no animals on the co-star but like in the interior I didn't see any animals into a bird I didn't see it you know nothing right and so interior I-90 any animals into a bird I didn't see it you know nothing right and so not only have I think as humans were kind of wire to see things living I mean you're not even here until a bit of a concrete jungle but like you see trees on the street you see whatever alive for 54 days it was like well I want to like smell trees fresh air in the trees I want to eat a salad I don't know like that's what I like my mind got to is kind of coming back to reality and that way

most outrageous article I need to find out this is truth Jamie help me out here they're saying that Amazon not Amazon Whole Foods was asking their employees to donate their sick time to other people who might need it if they get the coronavirus I love that instead of saying hey you work for us we got you will take care of you we know this is crazy time fortunately we have a lot of money and we care about deeply and take care of your problem because we're over here making it making most of money to help with got some good cheese dude only showed that a lot. do you got divorced and his wife was she the richest female in the world now after divorce to PTO paid time off time off to another admits the coronavirus pandemic look at that place returning item has 5 trillion dollars okay let's most protected and now they're throwing them under the bus hea here on somebody's why he doesn't get murdered like your boy supposed to commit suicide nobody knows who he is but every celebrity knows who he is and I knew he was too though they wouldn't friends with them they would say his name when they went to jail he's fine this is what you're saying is King Behavior right when you hear about mad King's when you hear about mad King's when you hear about people that are in these gigantic positions of power and they act like Savages and yell at people and off with their heads and absolute power quote is that an old expression absolute power corrupts absolutely and then he can get away with all kinds of crazy s*** and he could be the guy that was untouchable part of why it's part of why he was a piece of s*** that he can act out this power was to have immense amounts of influence on people and then he can get away with all kinds of crazy s*** and he could be the guy that was untouchable

Cassidy Diss a community have been going back and forth the text why would it if it's if I'm a conspiracy guy why would they do this Eddie anyway she was a press lady who asked a question like why his administration disbanded the pandemic office and he didn't know about it until he turn to some other guy that was on stage with him so you know about those are water beads on the floor of the that you know little argument with that he got with a union worker Second Amendment is it that they're going to take away certain guns he said that this is recent anytime anybody says anything like that like I don't fucken trust you at all why you worried about the size of my magazine you f*** face of her protect my family who cares if your life you looking at it logically you looking at like that's his real feelings the problem is when something comes along politicians have to make a move them to do something in response that they have a response for a crisis and if they don't have some sort of response there knock sensor response in terms of now the rounds are you going to eat if your trying to stop a mass shooting more effective way be better mental health that be away more effective way and then it's Common Sense yes, it's good like you okay 7 kid shoots up a f****** mall now I got to give up my gun your guns are too big like how does that make sense I'm just trying to protect my family any motherfukers coming to me that's some of course that's not when you're trying to eat you worried about the overall goal is to take the guns totally but I see what you're doing and you're going piece-by-piece inspiring and that is what I say so generally wants gun control and the other people want a piece to people in okay gun control I don't want to hear anything else I I think what's weird is that out of all the people in America like you give me a choice of Bernie Sanders or f****** Biden like that these are the guys from Bernie Sanders anymore tax scams going on throughout the United States and I'll Congress be eliminated on a chair really put our tax money to work we have two packs f****** tax Force making sure that the tax money isn't siphoned out and scammed on all these scamps we limit I wouldn't be surprised if we straight flat tax of 15% would cover everything beautifully it was just managed they're already stealing all our money and then you're going to raise our taxes more why don't we figure out who the f*** is stealing all our money and then we worry about raising and this much do you could see on YouTube those are the scams that are going on that one of them getting paid by Foreign governments right to pay for the fire department Ben monitors where the stocking money is going and his people siphoning and scamming and believe shortly could be writing these bills to siphon off money into their Foundation look into that ship and then I bet I bet when it's all said and done we clean that s*** out I've been if everyone just throws in 15% flat everybody is good for everyone that seems like something with a mathematician and they have to work this out and would take months and months evidence of scams all that s*** it just seems like over there have like a billion dollars removing the taxes in Florida politicians that are multi-millionaires yes I do think about that Jesse spot, Obama became Rich after he left office the tax thing but you're right different scam my bad by mag release and the Clinton Foundation yeah he's still take that long money so long do.

calculate Panda Paulo Costa did you see Logan Logan slap that guy unconscious first light slap you might be the dumbest thing people that were invented in the last dumb thing it was dumber than that was when they start a people's arm together and have an MMA fight do the same thing keep making YouTube videos yet he signed up for this s*** like wrestling with whatever Wrestling Boxing it's it's crazy part of what he does part of what his businesses yeah it is look at his headband is heads f***** up from when he fell forward he fell forward with all his wing power I stand in front of you guys going to slap him now will you tell the guys emotional so when you get knocked out used to thin to get really mad or really emotional that big guys really emotional flappening and less you know the guy has nothing like there was one there's one hilarious when was guy slaps together facing just kind of like fingertips and across the face and this other guy Grizzly clubs him it's the Whiplash that not the Whip and attorney his older is there anything more disrespectful it's the Whiplash that not the Whip and attorney his older is there anything more disrespectful

everyone so goddamn scared there's no way that she even WrestleMania this is the last f****** chance Oliveira did some crazy s*** to his hair kill people prediction 99 predictions down in the back hi love on how to label to two different styles but still f****** crazy doesn't have a weakness in his game either you know his stand-up is nasty as f*** and is ground game is terrifying they both need to step it up right a lot of s*** going on right now and doing the right things people think like locks are dangerous MMA photo give me back gif what we're seeing here is a punch you consistently offensive for Schlage Locks while you're on your back Jesus Christ it's hard to see from the other side like what the whole time he's throwing liquor store he could could go into a honey hole but I don't have relaxed or the various Camila Oliveira hit him with a really good shots but when Kevin leaves on top of the end of the round thing you up or do the judges eyes how did you went around all that s*** you did didn't really mean that much of this guy is on top of you big beat me down right so I give that round to Kevin Lee agree with about the price greater than 20 more minutes I'm a little upset they make my Beltran hide his f****** mustache mustache but he's so technical like nothing's wound up here the wind up with shity just fire stuff big big shot by Kevin anything whatever whatever what are you got okay I like it okay keep doing the uppercut getting boring don't got to do something yes sir I got up at back considerably the smaller guy she has a beautiful thing about Kevin Lee right now is he wants the back. You know that's his spot that's what he's known for the Michael Jordan look like Michael Jackson when a referee stops a child that's not necessary unless the guy goes out he took the teacher in that top half into a leg lock battle now it's a whole different sport whole different sport what is that what has a long ways ahead strikes that he was what's the most dumbest thing that happened this morning and he ended the round on top start fighting it on the feet it's hard because least taking a lot of shots for it and get it to the ground Brian rubbing against each other I got it got caught Olivera is asleep and then came back where you were right there can you put them in a million times half. This b**** half card he does this s*** all the time choke him out he must have choked him unconscious and woke up thinking the fight was still going on that's crazy who's better than

bodied up black dude misogynist big girls but real legit massages like I make sure female you say female right only only dudes I swear to God he was a gigantic man with the biggest f****** ass he was an effort African-American that's but he was in a albino African American I forgot what it was from that point on today dude I f****** go out I just walk right in my fingers you got the female give a female like strong girls thank you for this is about the spice about go down Charles Oliveira okay and 5 lb yeah I'm too old for almost too much that they give massages all day. I go I go do do do wrestle training Judo Sydney Olympics when you train was doing because I said when you left it when you lifting weights a lot and he said just

CNN Fox News all that I know you hate somebody but what if they just know they create kind of this this Panic what if they just on 24/7 car crashes and people die from obesity and you know we be f****** terrified we be terrified f****** bones in the mountains and f****** in Norway people would believe it they could do you like they found Santa Claus bones disease is just jumping the people he said that it happens all the time and can't control it Corona slow down booties for the lack of testing there might be way more people with it so it shows it how how it's not that deadly to know how many people died that's for sure but we don't know how many people have it so it could be less than the only thing the flu to I mean if this is supposed to be ten times more potentially 10 times more deadly than the flu right is what the worst case scenario predictions brains as to what is causing this and is there another way to generate food I'll talk to because when we're old and we're not 80s the kids during those times are going to look at this is weird because like old people love toilet paper they just talking about toilet paper like avian flu that was bird agriculture swine flu that was a pig agriculture when they Jam all these animals together occasionally one of those f****** bugs with jump ahead with plans are the ones that jump coronavirus food wide this does seem like a massive overreaction Trump confirmed coronavirus in Cook-Out it's just a bad motherfuker though that guy throws horror movie it's a horror movie Aspirus series well there's some real dangers that it might be as much as 10 to 15 times stronger media is running with us because it's bad for Trump I didn't kill the economy has made the virologist have that in mind when they make their decisions I think all these millions of people smallpox this is what they do they try to stop a lot of diseases are trying to kill us every f****** day it is if we have a war and there's a war against viruses it's a real war against nothing but we don't think of it as a thing because it's it's you but it's I'm learning how to find many people how many people have died in the US so far if it was like the zombie apocalypse from an old folks home in Washington you know something like wait a minute the average age is 8230 of the first round 229 to 28 to 27 to 26 225 so if you want to sync it up or watch John makdessi vs trinaldo Francisco tonight it is a weird thing to see no audience and it's a weird thing to think that so many people are so afraid of this that they don't do anything and go out but it kind of makes sense if it's as bad as they think it is now if it's not as bad as I think it is the problem is just going to be a lot of people are not going to believe them but next one thing comes up to the next Wednesday I know I wouldn't I know I wouldn't know I don't know I don't think it's the history of viruses in the United States and in the world or the Spanish flu right that was really bad for young guys with rate at 23 or something I hear you describe what the disease was a guy just woke up from a coma and that Mike NBA cancel there's nobody at the UFC my my my thing is maybe they were trying to get it does the scientist CDC might be saying let's stop a peak in cases that overwhelm hospitals not infrastructure cuz we don't have the infrastructure to deal with this come on down right now by hand sanitizer nobody nobody addicted to drugs are there life fell apart all these all these things to be contributors right but you're not responsible for them and pretend that we are and we just leave them there is ridiculous like it like if someone would just littering where they are and just throwing shade in the street throwing needles and sweet arrest them but but you don't arrest them and they're setting up camps under these Bridge like this is nonsense cheap housing for people as well as medical help housing for people are Smokers Choice Medical help

does it take to develop a vaccine for this coronavirus question I I don't mean to sound glib again but I can make a vaccine for overnight the questions is it safe and effective and that's the challenge we have right now questions about how do you make immunity to a coronavirus and what kind of vaccine do you have to have that brings in all the different parts of the immune system so we don't know that yet so some of this research there's a condition in humans called antibody-dependent enhancement adee and it turns out that if you have no antibody or immune response your gets a disease if you have a lot you're protected in between level and then you get the disease it actually enhances the disease immune response is really destructive and in fact there was a couple years ago got the vaccine actually may just a little bit of antibody and when they got the real disease it made him a lot sicker and so we found with the 2003 SARS vaccine that there was an ATV component to it when we made it in animals and so we're going to have to really study this to be sure it's safe and as you said earlier you know we can surely make mistakes we don't you know we need not too and so I think between getting the effectiveness on the safety data together I mean maybe this is not going to happen soon you know it's wishful thinking you every time I mean I go back to Cyrus in 2003 and look at every event zika 2015 we settle will have a vaccine for in no time. Are 5 years later vaccine and so this is one of the challenges we have we have to complete the job you know it's like we start on something and then we forget that it's important because it kind of goes away for a while but only to come back and so this is part of that picture we talked about this with Peter hotez you know we got to finish the job on these things you know I worry that we'll get through this situation and then people say all we're done and then we'll forget until the next one comes along and so so this is where vaccine research and development is really important how do they test for safety come up with a potential vaccine how do they make sure that it's safe what you do it gradually first 30 humans you know they volunteer willingly knowing to see what kind of reactions they have really bad people that are in jail and practice on them a lot of people before you know that the chance you might find that Brian 30 people for a while and it's just a joke and you say it's like if the Iowa farmer wanted a harvested corn and half the time it doesn't mean by planting twice as many acres you can do that in April you still can't Harvest October

I want to call I think food stocked up like a dick carnivore it till the end of the year legitimately then drink Creek water filter. Pump filter it's it's definitely bad flu in in some people's accounts in that it's causing some serious damage we got there Jamie oh it's it causes damage to lungs and brain damage saying we're all going to get it in one of the reasons why this is a real tricky one is that the symptoms don't show up for a while so you can be contagious for a long time and I wish I had it 3 weeks ago something like a million five hundred thousand chickens it's honest article and they just shut everything down there like this is fixed it this is something that's going to f****** kill half the population legitimately kill out the populations Arkham Washington Post that that gets like a bunch of experts and the kind of what the things that you agree on about the coronavirus and when you read that makes you feel better more than 50% of the cases that are serious like hospitalization are people that are under which is very unusual because the other people in other places that we there they're reporting this mostly older people with underlying health conditions weak immune system weak immune systems people with high blood pressure but you know you really should stop and look at the numbers of just the flu and this is supposed to be way worse than the flu but if you look at the numbers for the flu the flu kills a fuckload of pains a motherfuking 50000 in Euro reporting this mostly older people with underlying health conditions weak immune system weak immune systems people with high blood pressure but you know you really should stop and look at the numbers of just the flu and this is supposed to be way worse than the flu but if you look at the numbers for the flu the flu kills a fuckload of pains a motherfuking 50000 in Euro

Vault the game looks like to tell everybody who you are what you do is you do Martin and I'm the game director on Doom Eternal of Doom Eternal he showed us the game and show in ran through the sum of the first level holyfuck goddamnit so next level it's so next level graphics Regina my life it's awesome it's but it's okay because of the violence against demon yeah totally and and we we we work hard on that like you never there's no cursing that I have three kids there's no cursing there's no sex I do want it to be something that my nine-year-old could play don't you think it's kind of crazy that you could rip people's heads off you can shove their arm down their throat you could cut them in half that's fine just don't use any of those naughty word kids yes because I was joking with something the other day it's like my kids like he's not going to go to somebody in like Glory kill them but when someone says they will glow with like a Shader on them and that means you can go in to do a melee finisher basically which is like a a melee attack and you'll get help from in there there's really really cool animations so crazy like when my kids see that they're not going to do that but when they hear someone use the F-word they're like oh I could use that in everyday life and and that sucks so that would be awesome it is cartoonish violence so if you could be at its very much like a cartoon the first one with ID software we've had Carmack in before he's no longer with yes software but is will it still there no he's not there like whole sequence looks like I was like a CGI movie it doesn't look like gameplay like remember when we used to play games and used to have that opening scene there was like a video and then it would go to the game was crude this game is exactly like the opening scene which is so crazy no pre-rendered that everything those are the in-game assets that's how good they are the team is like insane the guys are true artist Craftsman you know like they just go crazy on the details and when you zoom in with the camera for the cinematics they completely hold up the rigging like it's like a feature film it's nuts are you guys there is right now let's play Let's play the the the old Taylor this is the old trailer me too know if you just listening this is just annoying music and noise but if you're watching it looks f****** sick 100 Angels Angels 2000 Jesus waste of time for people 3:20 so that's when it comes out it was 9 days from now yes that guy if your Bruce Lee that is your Chuck Norris yeah and you guys are going to admit the whole scene actually when you meet him there which is a little kid from that really inspired by that Tina is it Enter the Dragon or Return of the Dragon when he fights Chuck Norris yeah or for the Star Wars fans your Obi-Wan and that's your Darth Maul in the prequels were amazing they were really good yes I've watched the one against Obi-Wan and Anakin like a million times like I love that one it's so good like when they in the wild in Chittenango off on each other in like it is to make George described it in an interview that it would be like you would be seeing a Jedi at their Peak that that really in the first three Star Wars films they were not at their Peak and then in the prequels you would see them in their Prime you know I'd like kicks in his prime so like that's what's so cool about that fight that Bonnie Tyler it's amazing yeah well what you guys have done is create something that's going to ruin people's lives I hope you really excited about massive waste of time I mean we're talking before the show about video games in the addictive quality of video games I have a real problem I just can't play them that much yes in every now and then and then I shake my head and I got to go running or something cuz otherwise it'll get the grip on me video game. Cuz you're like in the movie and it looks like a f****** movie now and you see what the glory kills like you are your own fight choreographer if you're sick of Break In the arm and shoving it in his head then swing around from behind and cut them in half you know like you anything you want it's awesome what is unique about our single player is that it will give you the same Buzz that a multiplayer will give you because you're this time are the AI that opening level that's why I felt so you're messing with like easy dudes later on it will continue to level up and as you saw like that guy that comes out with the acts like again he is he is as tough as you are so you will get the same feeling from the single-player that you do from a multiplayer times one-on-one you run around the map and collect your rocket launchers in your ammo and armor and s*** and just f*** each other up we have a multiplayer Cold battle mode that is f****** awesome like it's really really good and then like Quake multiplayer looks no different is very unique the last multiplayer we made was not super well received it was a really competent good multiplayer but it was Doom 2016 multiplayer experience but it really wasn't Innovative enough like fans yes I do something new so we basically took the single-player experience that combat loop at your master and then we would give you away to do with your friends it's a 2 V1 so it's up to you guys versus one guy gets to be the Slayer with all the guns and it's really really cool and then there's Invasion so like you'll play the single-player campaign and then someone can become a demon like Jamie could become a demon and then invade you while you're playing you won't know where he is and I'll just come out and try to f*** with you like it's really cool but is there anyone but battle mode the closest we beat that we come to the one on one is to be one instead of one versus one you know it's the balance there no one demon can stand against the Slayer you know the doomguy is all-powerful he's got all these down it's right here he's got all the guns and the mods and he's at 8. secret spot to hit his arms are like trees so like that there were other men other jelly donuts is like a sword and the bicep just like his butt but anything like that in the future like that you never know like certainly will see but but we're really really proud of this like I think what you want to do is you got to innovate if if you want to make something that's really going to engage people like that fit like the whole point is to like give them something to master that they've never seen before cuz if you're just asking me to master a new version of a thing that I already mastered sure a lot of people would appreciate that but you're not really going to capture like a large audience so we really created something I was completely unique I'm so excited that now is there going to be a deathmatch mode where like all of us can get a room and f*** each other up by now or pillars of like we needed a lot of drama then I had a lot of pacing like that variations and pacing in the match and something with deep strategy so and and was primarily Innovative like unlike anything any anything anybody had played before and was like it's a multiplayer for people who love Doom Eternal Soul play the Doom Eternal single player you'll like this like an awesome Graphics are so off-the-charts I don't play this right now because I know I'm looking at this video to Jamie's playing showing the video of this guy playing in The Other Guys

yes when did you guys start on this about four years ago so it's been 4 years of steady work to make something like 10 in 9 days we're going to like give it to the world yes I'm like oh my God yes I'm just now they say that it's four days and you start exhibiting symptoms so okay I coughed at the airport and people looked at me like I felt almost wanted to apologize I was just clearing my throat I didn't cover my mouth everybody was like yeah it was last week with the fans like lines of fans and the beginning everybody was touching elbows that lasted like 20 minutes and if we were just high five trying to give you Knuckles and that you had but fifty and up or something or like it's the real problem is people with respiratory issues people who are overweight and and people who are old does a does a real problems refit and he is now on a ventilator and he was in Italy I don't know the specifics you know sometimes look like I've got the flu before and I'm sure you has have as well and sometimes what happens is your worn down from travel you're worn down maybe from drinking you warm down from too much exercise and then it gets you and then if you're not like and this is just the common cold and apparently the common cold is a type of coronavirus make sure that's true I'm pretty I was reading up on coronavirus is last name was like what is a type of coronavirus is this just here now forever like this is a part of the world like coronavirus question well Michael osterholm who wrote This Book deadliest enemy and who was on on Tuesday on the podcast Tuesday he opened up a lot of people's eyes as to like what what the issue is and what what you what you can do to prevent it but those wet markets that they have in China or just bananas man with the f****** bats on the tables and coronavirus or a large family of viruses that cause sentences ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Eeyore SARS a novel coronavirus is a new strain that has not been previously identified in humans so zoonotic or xonotic meaning they are transmitted between animals and people so what was happening is these four wet markets he was detailing how they have chickens that are in one cage and civets that are above the chickens and civets are shiting on the chickens and chickens are eating the civet s*** and oh my goodness is like it's just a perfect environment to create a disease is going to jump from one species to the next that is scary yeah and he's like in many of them with jump to humans I mean all the major whether it's avian flu that's from bird swine flu obviously from pigs they jump from farm animals or from these people and they're not going to stop us markets so it's like people by their food which is just crazy and making the videos and pictures of what they look like over there know that seems scary though Rock concrete bats laid out with their mouth open they look cartoonish didn't even look real and they have no wings at James oh my God and over there look how big these bats die trying to kill you and they're going to they're going to cook those that is how this disease got started if you're hungry eat a bat you could Glory kill that thing and get help that would be good as well so don't eat bats kids I mean that's one of the things that China is doing what they have to do there's too many people not enough food and a lot of what they're eating is just we wouldn't imagine eating it or are you not traveling because of this change and s*** that's my wife asked me a lot like she she was really concerned about me coming here and I was like we got sell again so I just got back from Vegas and I was a little nervous while I was over there but I did everything normal I went to work out you know I-81 to the fights which is 20,000 people at the T-Mobile Arena all stuffed into this one area and everybody was acting normal our brothers high five Fighters mean outbreak yeah I am I'm worried about old people I'm worried about my parents for sure I'm willing to help people are overweight you know I have friends that are not healthy to Mayberry she'd lose some weight and I'm worried about them I'm worried about people with respiratory problems you know a good friend of mine has a daughter by cystic fibrosis the train he canceled his tour shout out to Everlast he canceled his tour because of that I mean that he's got a real concern serious lung condition that is really scary people that he's got no choice he has to stay home and play it safe and I think a lot of people going to do that you know it's going to be interesting to see how the government handles it was one of things about love or hate Trump he's willing to do some s*** that's a lot of people think would be unpopular like closed down traffic yeah closed down flights coming in from other countries that are infected that have high rates of infection you know I mean I wonder what they're going to do and something the really radical has to be done to try to start the slow down this this f****** Illness but I don't know what they can do are we waiting for it to watch your show at this guy are we waiting for it to go away like I read a quote that like when the weather changes it'll it'll stop or something that's horseshit Michael osterholm set of straight on that that's nonsense and I can handle it he develop an immunity when you catch it and for many people this is going to be like a bad cold for many peoples going to be like you're coughing and your end you just you just try to get better stay home drink a lot of fluids be healthy do your best and eat healthy and then get out and you're going to have an immunity to it and that's going what's going to happen on the other end I saw one guy he had it and it was fairly mild and then they quarantine and he got over it is getting over it and getting better and then they quarantined him with a bunch of also had it and he got it even worse probably wasn't fully developed yeah and then it just overwhelmed his immune system cuz he's basically quarantine with a bunch of other people that were really really sick but he got through it he was talking about it and all these poor people that are stuck on boats oh my God it's crazy this is going to kill a cruise ship industry there's nobody there it's actually kind of nice I only ask and stuff but I'm just like f*** it what are we going to do by closing down buffets all-you-can-eat is f****** pig out but that's also how they do it on a lot of cruise ships have buffets only one-on-one cruise ship and by the end I wanted to throw up like oh my god look cuz the first day you like the food is amazing but it's so buttery gross and it's like being stuck on an apartment building filled with drunks but you're all on the roof and if you jump off the side you're definitely dead yes but tasty food it's like being stuck on an apartment building filled with drunks but you're all on the roof and if you jump off the side you're definitely dead yes and they're feeding you the fattiest grosses but tasty food

Carmack at a bar in Texas which was fuckingawesome and it's funny because he started telling me like well if you guys going to make it you know we were in production on Doom Eternal he's like if you guys can make a doom game here's what we thought we may doom and everything you listed we're all like that's what we think Legacy to live up to yeah it's the pits a really special place to work at the tremendous amount of I do want to say pressure but we're all motivated spot that's just they they they they are able to get away with things at a lot of mainstream AAA games struggle with because of how violent is I mean they are like again it it's it's Evil Dead 3 with a Transformers budget like who the f*** gets to make that like you know like we get you see we spent that shitload of time making that stuff like in a lot of situations I've been in a Craftsman you know working on the entrails later this looks pretty good and well and literally the notes you like I need the pentesting the kind of like flap a little when you get the thing off you know like how do you know if you cross the line is there a is there ever been a time when you had a scene and people are dial that back we we actually totally you know what you say hi to you start the project it's it's kind of like there's a fair amount of brainstorming in the strength of any creative team is the biz at least four game is how you brainstorm with each other at the Cinergy in that room has to be good you got to be selfless you got to show up you got to be willing to support other ideas other people's ideas we have f****** amazing group in that regard but totally we try to establish that the like look guys we're not making Saul we're not making hostel it's not malicious it's not meant to make you cringe and we actually got together a little video of like what we thought violence wise was inappropriate and totally felt off and then we made another video of what we felt right and that was Evil Dead 2 with like it's not a slow trickle of blood out of a sliced open wrist it is some dudes head came off and Hawaiian Punch to start Spa and shooting out of his head you know like that's really what it is like it it's cartoonish you know how it goes so far that you because the thing is you do this so much so often you are murdering demons per minute like I don't know what it is but it's fun crazy if it was off-putting and realistic and kind of like who you'd be so turned off it be sick like you did make you sick after a while but so kind of weird that would make you less sick well it was more realistic and less bloody I'll for sure I mean it's totally we could we could twist that where every one of those is mean-spirited and really off-putting for for sure I mean I don't want you to sell me some PR stuff to sort of defend your game against people that are anti-violence what you're doing is super bloody and disgusting and vile to say that somehow another that is less off-putting than less gory is it's a ridiculous argument I don't use any here or anywhere else it's Joseph it is not this is no PR this is so like this so you look at saw you look at torture p*** horror movies there they're cutting Achilles tendon f****** exacto knife and the dude is screaming in pain and he's a person like this is gnarly s*** he doesn't look like he's having a good time like verses on Evil Dead 2 when you wipe off the head of that one Grandma creature that comes up out of the basement and like f****** Buckets of Blood start coming out red people believe that because look Your Design Story is going to be exposed to the to the consumer into 10 seconds like they can see through your b******* in 5 seconds if they like dude you're trying to sell no like so we have to have an honest good design story that we can stand behind that is true and that that is the truth I mean we basically looked at like cartoons and like make it over the top be animation so every time he was a perfect example every time you murder a cacodemon which of those flying balls you pull out their eyeball kaco OCA Co you literally here like out I can't do it sound and that is absolutely intentional to take the edge off what you're doing because if it was more gruesome and they're like it's The Exorcist vs. Evil Dead 2 those are two completely different movie Sino house house was the movie that came out in the 80s that was inspired by Evil Dead that's like a f******, timid is a comedy and and it's a horror comedy versus The Exorcist which is f****** amazing f****** amazing but really very serious you know and that's that's how we're able to do what we do they stop selling it look like if you had a demon s*** that's what would look like like oh no tearing you up on the way out what is an original one that is the original cacodemon from the original Doom yes oh cool so it's an updated version of that but you know just more graphically intense yes

that's why working at it software and he totally is the guy at the end along with the rest of them to like Romero in those guys like that group f*** that's a couple times all of them there their they're like the Beatles you know like it was like daikatana was like the physics of Quake 1 but with the graphics of that error CD find a video of a daikatana in game it was a fun game and I was like this might catch on but people were down on it before it ever came out their shorts s*** talk about it because it took so long and cost so much money and they have these giant offices in Dallas with his huge penthouse I personally think they they are some of the best work that they can look at that that's a little dark Target online Internet bring a bunch of other stuff I think the best work that they did was when they were all together like keeping the band together that honestly it it's making games is definitely a team sport and then you got to have everybody working together really well if you want to pull it off like you need everybody to be in the same level of dedication same level hard work does Rockstar that would shoot and it would come out like DNA strands share share the rocket would like to Rockets with twist at the same time to get back and forth yeah this is what the game look like it's just just really dark for something for whatever reason go to forever since I played it I know that Romero likes we're making which is a huge compliment I don't know he lives in Ireland I think yeah I think so

that's my hope for the future is it games are like that and you're actually able to exercise doing that because I think that if you had a game where your in a warehouse and you're actually running for your life again you know and demons are chasing you and shooting down things like your heart rate would be jacked you could do that for an hour and get a sick workout in and have an amazing good time that would be awesome great shape running from demons you would I wouldn't have to get up so early in the morning play this game but you can play this game in a warehouse where you know you have all of the boxes and all those stairs therealreal stairs and real box yeah you're running around this pre-designed map and you're actually engaging with his VR demons with a haptic feedback so f****** Glory killing them half repair parts write Jamie David new rides today for I guess Out Here Disneyland the new Marvel campus is going to be in somehow they're tracking your hands so during the ride you shoot things for points weekly daily and monthly stuff psyche and your family could get dragged me along our the best at this ride going on with the games whether your mouse and keyboard or controller though it would be hard to achieve in VR I think VR offers like a very specific unique and f****** amazing experience and I would I would just like separate the two like you know when when and when we're making VR games we're definitely trying to do something else which is cool in and of itself in and of itself but there's like not just in our game but in a lot of games like there's just Resource Management there's likes the high level 2 skill medicine happening I mean you know you play so like you know that that's hard to reproduce in VR in certain ways at least at this time but it but I think that's the thing where people want to take how you feel or how a movie and gauges you and apply it to a I think it's like Let It game be it's on your blood game be a game but a movie be a movie what VR be its own f****** experience like that looks fuckingawesome but if we just so so I would love to kill waiting a platter and beyond our I mean seriously especially somewhere like Texas where there's a bunch of warehouses like oh yeah where you can get three or four of them and set them up for different maps in the game Debbie f****** off a laser sight on your rifle and you it is it's it's it's a lame arm I can do anything he wants but he's doing I now like he's not doing VR anymore I heard I heard he was Consulting with oculus but now he's he's pursuing a i he likes a challenge he's a very interesting got to talk to you I really enjoyed talking to him yeah he is awesome you really think about what he's accomplished in the world of video games mean he's the Mack Daddy amazing games that's the guy you guys like keep your eye open for like where VR is headed and things like that and go will not yet or not ready for that yet but one day down the road we'll have something kind of a different again like we're like it's sort of like with cars I went to school for automotive design and because I love video games you know the training in automotive design big clay models about that big there their they're f****** amazing and and really really amazing place did you know that the design process that you learn their you can apply to kind of anything anything but a lot of things certainly video game for sure cuz it's just kind of questions you're asking which is like how do you start from nothing to something you know like that involves large groups of people then you can learn that there I forgot your original but I know it's like you know so I use a lot of car now she's at the office quite a bit and and it's kind of like we make a race car and and if VR is something else that's like an SUV that's like just another kind of car so like we kind of perfected how to make race cars and is been doing it since the 90s so like Doom Eternal is just another race car. accessible to Consumers I'm wondering you know where video games are headed I'm wondering if you if you think that's where they're headed everything is always going to be a place for them on an actual video game I can get an actual computer rather than the actual video game I think the the that's where my focus is other people like Carmack are looking to see where will not anymore but we're video games were going to go next but I am fully focused on where they are now and how to make what they are I think the the that's where my focus is other people like our Mac are looking to see where will not anymore but where video games were going to go next but I am fully focused on where they are now and how to make what they are now better

so when you do something like this and you releases game obviously they'll be patches and some upgrades and some different things you do what I want and how long do you work on this game before you guys move on to the next thing where are you moving onto I don't want to take the next thing that is APR answer cuz I'm not say that but the episode of Doom that we would sell a downloadable content I blow it that sounds like anyone would know it we're talkin about I'm so used to speak but yes it is HBO series of it and then you'll have a bunch of other ones that are based on the same engine same characters different Journeys different things that'll come up well all centered around the doomguy basically the adventures of doomguy and how long do you do that for before you move on to the next game it's hard to say you know certainly we're always kind of dual-tracking and things and talking and you know I always see no lie because you never know when the cool ideas going to come along and your kind of John down notes always have part of my notepad out just thinking about stuff like I was him I mean you never know when it's going to be something cool you know you cuz you never know when the cool ideas going to come along and you kind of John down notes always have my notepad out just thinking about stuff like as a I mean never know when it's going to something cool you know you're playing something or see something or want something so and then we keep those conversations going on the side and see how it goes so is there any

I'm the only one in the UFC broadcast that doesn't put makeup on to their heads punched in straw Weight champion fight with this woman Jean Whaley who is the strawberry champion from China's crazy epic like one of the best fights in history at the end of it you want his head like a Frankenstein forehead now imagine me with makeup on standing next to that would be ridiculous. I refuse cuz she like never even flinched or heads twice the size of normal she didn't Flinch kept throwing bombs was amazing 25 whole minutes of chaos like it was even the whole fight the whole fight was like back and forth back and forth back and forth was amazing four heads twice the size of normal she nufletch kept throwing bombs was amazing 25 whole minutes of chaos LinkedIn it was even the whole fight the whole fight was like back and forth and back and forth back and forth with amazing

anyone contacted you before this or sense in particular and asked for your advice as to how they can better prepare like the president and and that's right yeah and so you know I I've never had a partisan. I'm just a private in the public health all right and so I actually service assignments Envoy for this Administration in the state department last year you know if still in my full-time job at the University until I've never been I mean I'm there to give the best advice I can see and do you think there's anything that you could do now that could help them make sure that we don't have these shortages of masks and shortages of medicine and IV bags and something that could be done to you obviously you've laid out all these problems and you laid it out in your book here to pick about right now go pick it up on Amazon right there an audio version of it as well I have no I don't know I don't read myself now there's actually a really good voice not mine I work at 110% time but if they were trying to fill all the orders they've gotten just in the last few weeks would take him years and years with the capacity they have in you can't build build these new machines to make mask overnight so this is something that should be set in advance of anything like this any pandemic happening like long Advance we should be prepared we look at what all do we need we don't do that in public health we've tried and so you know what stockpiling 500 million of these in 95 would have been the difference between night and day and when you look at the price of one of those VS1 airplane not even close if you look at the things like that it's like these medication at or think about our defense department employees are at risk of running when we can start now but we're not going to fix it now is to say what are the key things that we should do vaccines you know if we had been serious about this we might very well had a coronavirus vaccine work specifically for this train will it work for SARS and MERS but right after Stars happened in 2003 everybody was hot and then when the interest rate is it something like the flu where you know sometimes when they come up with the flu vaccine it doesn't necessarily address the current strain it could be and that's where a coronavirus family vaccine may not match up right here now but it could end in the flu and you've really had an important Point there's one where you know we do have in it in perfect vaccine but it still does a lot of good you know if 50% of people protect that text lot better than zero if we had a vaccine right now I can't wait until the crisis to fix these things you know what we spend about .0001 percent of Public Health compared to our defense department and yet look how vulnerable is the bugs is not a war is not a missile is bringing down the world economy right now virus and that's what I lay on a whole plan in here like these vaccines like to stockpile some ass you know we should have a plan in place already what we going to do with our schools when they close are we going to really close calls let's not try to make this on the Fly and I just mentioned if we closed schools we are going to really hurt some people this is a wake-up call cuz you're nobody I think really believe that I got to take you know the market today cuz you know on this particular day crashed badly and you know I think that up till ten days ago the market didn't even think this was a possibility they just be if you look at it with flying high on Friday I did a briefing for over 400 major Financial investors around the world and you know I am Halifax and make sure people understand it the questions I got from these people almost remind me of a six-year-old who's afraid to have to go through on a dark dark hallway and I thought friends and colleagues Friday night through this we know where we going to go with it no plans again is caught Everybody by surprise I mean you were the one of the few people that wanted to deal with this issue you don't we set this up several weeks ago you know and I think that's where the country hasn't seen it caught by surprise

China because they have this incredibly large population 2 billion they've got this food supply that is largely Wildlife that comes into these markets weathers is incredible contact between people in these animals and the crowded nature of that society mean I think one of the things that surprised who in Wuhan city of 15 million the entire metropolitan area of 60 million and so you have crowded so closely together that if you add in the bugs coming from these animals and then the potential for this kind of of contact word spreads quickly has been a vessel for a long time that's again why we have to protect ourselves here because massive number like these kind of cities these wet wet markets so that's what it is a lot of I remember one day buy my own half wild big mean in these titles every animal imaginal to humans and I swear to God they were some of the movies I think that were in there and they're all just right on top of each other and I actually have a picture that I show him some of my lectures there was a situation with all these chickens in a cage 15 or 20 getting a flu viruses if you wanted to create the perfect experiment that no no University you do research group and let you do is you put birds and ferrets like that together and so together as a ferret to put down some markers on what they're going to do to supervise these markets have to eat but I think this is a dangerous practice where we see it but you know what happens to look at Africa with ebola primary source of this outbreak in West Africa was so it went somewhere pretty big bats you know they're very literally 3 ft wingspan so they're big and so you know that's one of the challenges we have with with China we know that this was going to happen is going to occur we think of the flu viruses the same way and that's how we knew doing better flu vaccines usually beef flu pandemic the same thing hanging out and some of them are still alive and then they'll actually preparing for your right there they they basically kill him and got him and so forth to get some pictures up there's are there you go. Market menu shows over a hundred wild animals sold as food linked with virus unclear exactly dire crocodile turkey Swansea in Swansea how dare you kangaroo squirrels Nails foxes foxes and Civic cats were the cause of the SARS outbreak I've had that delicious I'm a hypocrite freaky looking sucker call area from rural area is growing these things and informing them or they some cases both some cases I can try but if we can't stop that we need to stop the infectious diseases coming from those animal starts looking them all wear masks hilarious that was I think with the outbreak was that that might have been since the other yeah there's a lot of people in China that got to eat that's where it gets weird right this is just like how do you tell them that they've been doing David doing this for who-knows-how-long how do you tell them to stop doing it or is is that impossible and is it more possible to just accelerate or vaccine program and try to preemptively create something to address coronavirus it addressed get various various different how long how do you tell them to stop doing it or is is that impossible and is it more possible to just accelerate our vaccine program and try to preemptively create something to address coronavirus it after the dress get various various different

weight classes when you jump up your Legos and shows 174-175 on Friday yeah yeah but with a lot of energy I mean when when he beat Mickey Gall that way I was I was incredibly impressed and when I like this kid my testimony didn't estimate all we was amazing so Prime Diego Sanchez performance 15 years into the game I mean it just even not even just into Dutchess into the UFC Frozen Four 2005 set for sale in the neighborhood of 15 years just amazing that he's so enthusiastic about it still that some that's a long time in a combat sport long time so that's the other thing man that is not the norm that's the aviation right I made it nine years in the UFC eight years actually and you know it's a broke down

trigger your scope the f*** out of your Daryl Walking Dead f****** strong and you got to hit a good spot yet his soft spot Like A Champion but like he just goes right through them with that stupid Aero but then it never passes through right never goes right through bottles that show I used to love I love that show for the first few seasons was a great show for like the first two or three seasons until Rick the main guy left I saw him out somewhere I want to say it was out of UFC might have been out of UFC in a crowd do somewhere in the crowd but you look depressed all like he was bummed out about his character getting killed that what I mean imagine if you're on a show and you're one of the big players on the shelf and he was one of the main god and one of the more interesting guys and he's on the show four five six years whatever it was and then one baseball bat you this new guy not only does this new guy on the show I was getting all the heat but now he baseball bats you to death and then you're just out there in public and proud people like mocking you on social media if you're not smart you read that s*** you feel bummed out what is the sun's gone to Rick's son Carl Carl Carl Carl Carl early from way back he was doing an open mic contest I think on Thursday on Wednesday or Thursday and then we went we got in there early cuz we have the radio back then and Josh was on stage was really funny and I said hey man you want to work with us all week Atlanta so much but he does like a play and you are did he really that's not good once you're done though with you by the mullet cool he kind of did but not really it's really just a punchline he lives he is it is but it didn't with Josh's mullet isn't it glued on the right I don't know about the top part I think they glue a lot in there part I think they glue a lot in there

that was all the rage cuz I'm from outside of Charlotte Tammy Faye Bakker to be shut down he was selling to intubate coronavirus apparently Sweden coronavirus cheer clinic that's what he looks like now $125 cure for the coronavirus that does not exist is out there rocking it only does the Jim Bakker Show shout out to the Jim Bakker Show North Carolina so you just going to sell it from his website left his believers Jim Bakker becomes the king of the world he's the only one left we don't have the key it just him and his believers

what did you think about adesanya vs. yoel Romero sleep a lot of people that you know she wasn't the most and it wasn't so many exchanges and stuff like that I guess you go to look at at the Y that happened in I think y'all in our office leaves just standing there waiting for for easy to come in every time easy deep commit to something he just come out like you literally was going to wait till you come in and I'm just going to fly bomb almost easy now is that so you trying to talk to him trying to get him to react and you know in a waiting for him to explode and things I just didn't happen if I was just a trick you on me and that's why I love the people that say whatever but you never even though you don't really know what it feels like to you can actually in that you can take care of that's not true because he didn't come forward and like he's he's selling his if he was chasing Izzy and Izzy wasn't doing anything but that's not what happened like Izzy was trying to get him to engage and he didn't want to get he was literally standing there at the beginning of the fight standing still left hands yet when is he did try to connect when he did try to get close to bought into it a little bit and you all through that f****** left hand they have crazy how fast that guy is as soon as he's just going to come down what is the inner animal again if you want to watch his mind if you're trying to find that might as well get a chance it's like Jean Whaley and you won't even Jay check is super super exciting but that's tiles no Styles matched up you don't mean not every fight is super exciting Robert Whittaker yoel in a very exciting way but I mean that's a bad way to fight with that guy even just hating evil even Locker I reckon easy from the leg kicks now. I would have been hurting that ramira but probably hurting yourself kicking it on me just Solid Rock is a solid imagine. And he didn't just a break-in hurt him affected. Uses length uses reach uses attributes down the outside use the he's a higher-level kickboxer use that you know and try to lure them into you know attacking encounter those those attacks but it's one of those things with ABC like when Tyron Woodley Wonderboy kind of same thing geologist are there let's just be in a really exciting but you lose if I'm going to have that sort of a special feature in your card right those hot those punch holes are valuable and you you let yourself get cracked when you didn't have to there's no need for that you should always fight smart it's dangerous enough do you let yourself get cracked when you didn't have to there's no need for that yeah you should always fight smart it's dangerous enough to fight smart hitting look at hit and I love that you know that's how I believe as well you know that's why it's just Styles it's just style the way Styles match up

when did you start training what year do start I started doing it for that you're not even 10 years knowing he's so I actually started MMA training as just a kid two cakes while offline bug lake so I was you know that was when I was 214 pounds so that's something that obviously when you when I'm farting and you say 240th and O what is exactly 6 on a good diet give me a good stretch at do some yoga sessions at 5:46 but you know what I mean it's just I wanted to stay fit in between ya and in between Luxor of the Season preseason so that's why I went and started and just loved it ever since that was about Guerrilla volume are you guys say it was size you so you were early early twenties and know martial arts training it all before that wrestled so I wrestled before I even done rug Blake arrested for about probably yeah I kind of remember was about a year and you know I'm pretty good actually pretty good at but you know what I play football with my mites and drive away in the tots United wrestling and stuff like that I was just something that yeah I end up just playing for the night so I sort of gave it up and I was actually pretty good at so we wanted to win the Nationals lucky Estates the wrestling is known as Big in Australia as it is over here but you know I still want to look around Championship twice and stuff like that to have a game tonight because that a PCYC Place Boys Club it's just a local Club usually don't have no games not tonight that wrestling day and I just went there one time and another tryna was just like Alicia coming into trying to go so I just thought of doing it and then I was actually pretty good again I was always the mother's room 12 person God wants us all to me and you know Tomatoes all that much older as well and I used to do well so that's why little people you have photos mad you know when I gave that up because I was doing so good and then the sign was about to be late when the play-by-play giving people photos mad giving that up as well because of something was pretty good as well so what made you decide to make a switch to MMA professionally football play of the match score for email try so you can imagine that guy running for teemagers was just so I was trying it and having couple of thoughts while I was playing rugby league pretty full-on solo happening you know I guess that's probably where I get some My Fitness today as well you know I mean up just always been a bit of a game and then I'll just it's just something I've always done but maybe from back in the days as well but I really do I look in American football mike I think rugby safer I don't think it's safe it's obviously a very rough combat sport be a lot of limits kind of a cop it's kind of like a team combat sport but you were at least not under the illusion that you're protected like American football players have been for so long with the helmets in the pads and that's what's causing a lot of the brain trauma don't run in a tepee no no no helmet as well but I get what you're saying I actually think that you know I think you're right I think it down there I think they they considered this but people are so accustomed to football helmets football pad so the idea is to just make better helmets and better pads but according to the guys who really study traumatic brain injury that's not going to help because it's the impact of the had the brains washing around inside your skull that is just so the amount of mass that you have these guys colliding into each other almost unavoidable actually when you talk in person and that is willing to love people you know obviously wake up the smaller clubs within the boxes that they have more padding but it's just so many more strikes to the head and they recognize actually and I can imagine is and then also there's nothing else you can't even louder it goes to the ground you can hang on you could try to submit someone you try to wrestle with them there's not a lot of options inboxing you know I definitely so what so you you did well in rugby and you had a couple of fights while you're playing right what was it was it just a one-on-one aspect of it like what made you decide to focus entirely on that. And I love the fact that you know you're in there by yourself you know I've always been so you can play the time of your life in USA Rugby leg and still lose where you can do everything right in a Nike thousands of meters whatever it is and if I am Papas and you knowing the gym you going to say that Comfort on and I'll go no one else to blame but myself so you know that's all boys love that and again I just always love martial arts boxing UFC even before I even started in a training MMA Outlook and listen to music and all that unites picture myself in the world to AutoZone can you can watch whatever time you want and the pipe of you was at Publix inside a butt in the pipe with you was on and I remember watching Chuck Liddell Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock that was the first time they first thought so the first time I ever thought about you in like UFC and that's when I just absolutely stopped loving it's always been in there and all that and I wasn't even trying to talk he doesn't mean that there's a lot of them are sure there's some pussies over there to cut their men you know what I mean like this like one of the ways people look at Australia it's like it makes sense yet great combat sport athletes who come out of Australia Gonna Fly to know what soda stop but when I was younger that that would happen and I saw the boys they known to fight and being able to flattop a thing of voice at this year so to defend myself and I want to start it but I have to finish it but it's just something that I guess I'm heading me so talented God you never got a lot of that very good athletes everyday but they're always in your rugby legs and I have fell or whatever it is now UFC and MMA is getting so big that you're wigging these athletes starting in a training tonight and you're only going to say it grow even more when we going to get a little more Champions coming out for me original they're good athletes everyday but they're always in your rugby legs and I have fell or whatever it is now UFC and MMA is getting so big that you're wigging these athletes. And in a training midnight and you're only going to say it grow even more I'm going to get a little more Champions coming out for me original.

wow Edition amamos Catskill and Edition an estimate 377 million birds and 649 million reptiles every year in Australia that's f****** nuts far out you know was actually predator of the cane toads so they go to introduce for Cottman Montefiore these are they bringing me in and now that just complete past like that they like brought Australia from Hawaii with the intention of controlling the king beat on the sugarcane fields in North Queensland can beetles live in the high upper stock to the cane plant cane toad can't jump up that far but it barely had any impact these f****** idiots the middle the middle kill the cane toads are going to bring in Birds campaign that's like death of 35 million people in China or swallows a small bird so they allowed people to kill them are like bang pots and pans to get rid of them that work to get rid of them but then all of the bugs and ate all the rice fields so if a man that led to 25 or 35 my people dying so it would have been better off with the birds when it's like a whole it's a historical event that people need to keep in mind when these things happen that there's a very sensitive ecosystem I think I remember seeing videos and there was like just the floors absolutely covered of in certain spots up in Queensland like absolutely covered. Actually it was in The Simpsons maybe those toads taste good maybe they should start eating toads eggs are delicious do you recognize who died from that craigslist.com animal to bring over to kill beetles you f****** a 35 and kick his ass but go back in time are the Toads they wind up dying cane toads have venom secreting poison glands known as parathyroid glands or swellings on each shoulder with poisons released if there are threatened when they're threatened if ingested the Venom can cause rapid heartbeat excessive salivation convulsions and paralysis and can result in death for many native animals great well maybe get the cats to eat the cane toads maybe that's the move I swear I could be wrong with the most humane way to kill cane toads and put them in the freezer alive humane inhuman you fux it's all those f****** animal rights people they ruined everything what about our rights I got poison toads everywhere assholes how do you get rid of a toad Temptations and make your home a cane toad freeze on you to sign you decide hey where it came toad freezing here cover or bring pet food in at night as it attracts cane toads remove standing water great what's what about ponds what about puddle remove rubbish another degrees debris so the cane toad cannot shelter under it during the day keep your outside lights off when not needed keep toads out by creating a barrier far-out indeed hire people to kill him give him a lot make it valuable to kill him I'm telling you I think it was remember if you save a lot of thinking of you had $2 poisonous toads estimated over 200 million

well what else can people do in terms of all this hand sanitizer Jazz and masks is that all right thing for stopping a lot of infectious diseases they actually are really good they're good for your hands do you know in terms of the skin they kill the bed bugs but the whole issue of using your hands touching your face be transmitted that way so I wouldn't tell you to stop using hand sanitizers but don't think it's going to have a big impact on this f*** you see that viral video that's going around that woman who is giving the address at the best of the White House and she she date she tells people not to touch their face and then immediately licks her finger and I did sausage and you know the data we have on this is so sparse to say that that's the case I think the primary thing about hand washing is is legitimate but one of the things people want to do something they want to be able to like they're doing something and so we tell him wash your hands often in 2% this to prevent this disease and I feel like we're not being really honest with the people can you stop this disease which there's two kinds terms of the air coming in on the side they're not they're not effective at all so people wearing they look like they're doing something or not now if you are sick they may help a little bit from you transmitting because if you cough then you cough right into that cloth and the other one that was called an n95 respirator but drawing I'm just saying that that's how I look at it all the time and helped her all the time and they use me about 90% of my using industry so when they're grinding things are asbestos osetra another don't breathe in all these parts so if we have one of those battle to some Costco don't have the money to do that those Preppers right now are so excited yeah all the properties across the guy knew it I knew the day would come yet will they are they are and this is really important because how healthcare workers go is how the country I think we'll see we're going the other been over 4,000 healthcare workers in China who are infected mini of on their job and a number of died and if in this country we have a real challenge delivering healthcare because we roll and then we have healthcare workers picking up the infection like we talked about the group in Milan and we don't have the protection for them I really believe that's when the public will say wait a minute what's going on here and and that's where I think the challenge we have lived affect your healthcare workers they are the front line of people and end the biggest probably have a lot of these those people get infected the doctor and nurse working intensive care it's not like you just took out another Soldier you took out a special forces person you just can't bring somebody in from Family Practice forever and put them in there and so we've got to protect these workers and why I'm really concerned that that's one of the areas we not done nobody stockpiles we have no capacity to make lots of small the sudden you know prior to this event the hospital purchasing agent would go online workers and I'm really concerned that that's one of the areas we not done nobody stockpiles we have no capacity to make lots of money all the sudden you know prior to this event the hospital purchasing agent would go online click a button send me five thousand of these will be there the next morning

you said when you sat down was absolutely perfect that the timing could not have been better tell everybody thank you I understand where they come from so we can make sure they don't happen in the first place but most of all trying to respond to situations just like this just like this and just out off the bat overblown or how do you stand on this first of all you have to understand the timing of it in the sense that is just beginning and so in terms of what hurt pain suffering death has happened so far is really just beginning this is going to unfold for months to come yet unless I think what people don't quite understand what we saw in China I'm convinced as are many of my colleagues as soon as they release all of these social distances is mandated stay and Holmes have Straumann weeks and weeks kind of thing when they go back to work there on Planes Trains and Subways buses crowded spaces manufacturing plants even try to come back again and so this really is acting like an influenza virus something that transmits very very easily through the are we now have data to show that you're infectious before you even get sick and in some cases and remind people that's just the beginning probably the best guess what we have right now on what limited data we have to say this going to be at least 10 to 15 times worse than the worst 10 to 15 X fatalities over 480,000 can occur over the next three to seven months with this situation so this is not one that to take lightly and I think that's what I can understand if you say 10-4 2450 desk just remember two weeks ago we are talking about almost no cases United States and now that we're testing for it and watching this bread he's like the second spread very quickly and it also can affect people I think maybe to put this into modern turn to this is something we think of often and we think of you know pre-antibiotic days you know the old time medicine we have an employee at our Center for infectious research and policy at the University Minnesota and she has a dear friend who lives in Milan Italy and she works at a hospital and she texted this to this employee of ours last night and this was an email that came out yesterday from one of their in Blount the largest hospital. He said I just got a very disturbing message from a cardiologist at one of them Milan's largest hospitals they're deciding who they have to let die they aren't screening the staff anymore because they need all hands on deck and have a very small areas of the hospital dedicated to non-coated Patient or they still screen doctors everybody else is dedicated to covid-19 so even if they're positive me if they're sick they don't invite they don't have a severe cough or fever and they have to work he says that they're seeing an alarming number of cases in the fortysomething range rage and is Holy hook horrible cases so we need to stop thinking that this is annoying Old person's disease but this is what I'm going to unfold not just a move on some folding Moline is unfolding here and Seattle and this is what's going to continue to Rolling Lee unfold throughout the world rumor come from that it's an old person's disease people that have died from it so far been older yes in fact that's the primary risk factor for Dyna Speedo old and then having certain underlying health problems for example in China those men over the age of 70 who also smoked ate 10% of them died 65% of older Chinese men smoke the case fatality rate the challenge we have is it that's the Chinese data but there are series of risk factors that we worry about that if they overlay on this disease are going to cause bad outcomes and we happen to be right at Ground Zero for one of the major ones here in this country has obesity we know that obesity is just like smoking in terms of its ability to really cause severe life-threatening disease and 45% of our population today over the age of 45 in this country are obese or severely obese we have is we're going to see more of these but I would guess I would call very serious and life-threatening cases occur in our country because of a different set of risk factors and we saw in China you mentioned that there's some sort of an incubation period before people become sick they're still contagious what is incubation. And how do we know about it when we call something an incubation. Talk about from the time you and I got exposed I was in a room somebody else who was infected with the virus was expelling out I breathed it in how long from that time. Tell the time. That you get sick and what is that is that we called incubation. So that's when case numbers can double or triple and every so many days in this case is about four days so and we actually have data there from people who are exposed one time for one time only and we know when they were exposed were there were exposed how soon do they get sick afterwards so the chauffeur in the car with an individual is sick showing symptoms than the show forgets it 4 days later they were there one time and one time only the chauffeur does not show any symptoms he's still contagious because he's okay this is what's unfolding here and in this is what I think is such an important and I said why the timing is so important cuz you know Joey really got to get information off the public there's so much mess around for information right now and you know we're going to be this for a while this is not going to happen overnight I worry I keep telling people were handling this like it's a Corona blizzard you know two or three days and 6 months or more that are going to be like this and you know so far this thing turn on folding exactly as we predicted it we on our Center put out a piece on January 20th and said this is going to spread worldwide have time people said I was just trying to be put out a piece the first week of February said this is going to pop probably the last week of February first week of March is what happens if it has what's called are not or a doubling time of these every four days do to increase is doubling every 4 days so if you go from 2 to 4 to 8 to 16 it takes a while to build up that's what we're seeing happening places like Italy we're beginning to see it in some ways up in Seattle with what happened in China and you know when people are confronted with that suddenly this low-risk phenomena there were talks about isn't solo anymore and that's we need to prepare people for now what can be done like what what can the average person do I see people walking around with masks on wearing gloves is that nonsense largely first of all ocean is just a restaurant just breathing in studies in Germany which just have been published literally in the last 24 hours they actually followed a group of people who have been exposed to so many automobile manufacturing plant and then they had nine people that with this exposure he said if you have any symptoms virus they did blood they did stool they did he earn any found it at that very moment when they first got sick they had in Crowley high levels of virus sometimes ten thousand times that we saw was SARS in their throat mean they were infectious at that point already they hadn't even had symptoms yet over and and that's where we're concerned because then vaccine we don't have a vaccine here so what's happening is people in public spaces are getting infected and the way you need to address that is unfortunately if you're older over 55 you have some underlying health problems which unfortunately allowed Americans do we have obesity then right now you don't want to be in large public spaces what we eat we can close schools one of the big challenges we have right now if we closed schools what we accomplished and influenza virus when we closed schools that kids are in school really good news features of this disease China only 2.1% of the cases were angry 19 years of age and you know we don't completely know because I still get infected with the virus but they don't get sick I get sick and the kids do symptoms are going to test against are all positive so some diseases will manifest my primary when your adult but not as a child this one appears to be the same so do we close schools or not if we're not really spreading the disease because it turns out that if we closed schools with a recent study done showed that 38% of nurses today in this country who are working in the medical area have kids to school and suddenly 1/4 of the population has no sick leave if we closed schools they don't get paid if they have to stay home so when you ask what can we do we have to really be thoughtful about what we do are we doing more harm than good by closing schools for example if nobody else I hope we got to do everything we can or do we just tell people you know it's going to be a limiting your contact as much as you can and that's really about what we can do and limiting the contact is that really going to help do not transmit as much if I'm if I'm sitting in a room with a hundred people and what kind of sharing are the Transmissions remarkable right here the off the coast of California you get your cruise ship cruise ships for recirculating air inside the inner cabins we've had a number of outbreaks that's why I'm having these outbreaks quarantines of some kind of a want and follow up on him but you're guaranteed they're all going to keep getting infected day after day it seems like we're not really prepared for something with this although the CDC has been telling us for a long time that we should be you know we are not prepared at all things to come you know what a flu pandemic would look like if it emerged in China and if you read it it's exactly what's happened to supply chains went down trying to lock down the country it spread to other countries people have pointed fingers and you know it's it's the kind of thing where we hear in here but we don't get prepared you know five years ago I gave a talk at the Mayo Clinic a picture of a building Puerto Rico nondescript building and I said this is our next big disaster turns out that 85% of all the world's production of IV bags with sailing we need desperately we're made in these plants in Puerto Rico and all we needed was one one Category 5 hurricane Maria this is a wake-up call the business Community I hopefully will wake up you know what are the other things were doing right now this is really one of the things that has been most concerned about this whole situation is our group has been studying for the last year-and-a-half with support from the Walton Family Foundation looking at it turns out that we identified that people need right now are they died on the crash cart all of them basically are made offshore the United States and large part mermaid in China and India and at this point we have shortages anyway everyday but just before this prices happened now they Supply chains have gone down our group is actively helping United States government try to figure out anybody else they are beholding in China for these drugs 690000 Americans have end-stage renal disease right now most of their private. You're coming from China and now with the shutdown that was happening with us and this is what I talked about in the book why I'm so concerned because we are at risk situation it's about what the entire system is rigged up to be and what does virus does once it gets into it does once it gets into it Jesus you make me nervous before we get done here to talk about what we can do to get people not nervous because this it's too late

the average person that is sitting around reading these articles that say don't worry or readings aren't these articles that say this is the end of humanity what would what could these people do like what what could they do and what do they do if they get infected or first of all and and let me just give you an example because we've heard a lot about Wells going to go away with the coronavirus with the seasons okay when it warms up it'll go away well you know the other coronavirus have that we've had to worry about was SARS which appeared in 2003 in China and when that came out illness in the name really Crash and Burn and many of them died but what we did was basically by knowing that identify these cases in their contacts quickly and so they had symptoms brought them in put them in these isolation rooms they wouldn't infect anybody else and it took until June to bring out of your control that had nothing to do with the seasons which is another Coronavirus by the way sorry it was palm civets and we the type of animal food the roads that we got out of the markets are in the Arabian Peninsula we're not going to use that 1.7 camels and there it's a hundred and ten degrees out in this virus is transmitted find thank you I mean it goes from animals to people that goes in the hospital's there's no evidence that seasonal there because there's a model for it and what will it be because how does a how does something like stars run through a population then stop being around anymore we had good Public Health had we had the same kind of transmission where you're highly infectious illness and you knew that you are in trouble and then you could isolate you and we didn't understand virus transmitted so that's why I stopped because we don't get rid of the camel switch keeps hitting humans day after day but then when I go to the hospital we no longer allow those individuals to transmit to others in the hospital cuz we do what we called good infection control soon as they get there during special rooms with special mass and all this kind of thing buddy saying about seasonal flu year you know we're going to stop this one if you don't have vaccine that works you don't it's just breathing that's all it is so what's the best-case scenario here come with us and so we don't quite know what it's going to do yet I think you know we've been right on the mark predicting where it's going to be today I think from here on out I can tell you it's going to stay around for months is not going to go away tomorrow we got to stop thinking about if we just get through tomorrow that's it so we're going to prepare to do that rods in the reaction I should say and then it stopped by itself but also because if your if two of the three of us in this room room you in right now to protection because natural protection that I couldn't transmit to anybody so that's what's going to happen if you had enough people get infected all family then slow down stop transmission that way but that's a heck of a price to pay to get there flu or something that's really ruthlessly deadly 1% of people who died and grandkids mostly older or younger people that's one out of a thousand with this one right now in China were seeing between 2 and 3% of the people die in summer this is okay but on the other hand we have a lot of different people in countries like ours that have even more risk factors for having that outcomes in China and so Spanish Flu 1918 that was about a 3 to 3.2% case fatality right now it did preferentially impact 18 to 25 year old brainstorm which is an antibody response in your body that's out of control and it basically you destroy yourself and it sets this thing up to trigger off so the healthier people have the more adverse reaction to exactly the part of that immune system that woman says this is not all me get rid of this like a rejection of a graft and the other part saying it's the most precious cargo / carry you know I got to make sure I don't lose it and when that virus got in between those two it started again that same kind of cytokine storm now the thing that concerns us about this fortress on in in 1989 really bad flu year at .1% and it could be as high up here you know getting closer 2-19-18 like and that's the numbers I just gave you a few minutes ago from the American Hospital Association of funeral 480,000 us here in this country over the next 6 to 12 months

Miss number to well I'm say Miss I should say rumor was that this was something from some sort of a biological weapons thing that was leaked by cuz Wuhan is some area what part of China that they actually do work on biological weapons and Warfare it turned out I was involved with helping to an interview and get information from some of the washing bio-weapon yours after the wall fell and Russia collapse be at all these experts coming out who's been spending our whole lives making bioweapons and it became very clear to me this is really a serious Challenge and is part of my work and I actually threw a series of serendipitous events play on this topic I got really into it I wrote a book that was published 911 of 2,000 called living Terrors what our country needs a total of 5 between vouchers catastrophe and I think I bought eight of the 12 copies were sold of that year afterwards and then when 9/11 happened to Carson became really prominent no evidence whatsoever that this is a bioweapon or those accident released from the Wuhan lab today with the genetics we have on these viruses how we can do testing we can almost date them almost like carbon testing you know so radiocarbon you want to know how old of a block is or something like that this thing clearly jumped from an animal species probably the third week in November like those in these animals and it got into a human so you know we've truly a lot of challenges with that but I don't believe that there's any evidence linking those to Juan an intentional release or an accident and we talked to them about that it's not man-made diseases that's exactly we don't have the creative imagination of this one mother nature doesn't so much better than we could ever do it personal take out loud people okay this what Mother Nature doesn't so much better than we could ever do it and you know whether was Ebola antibiotic resistance any of these things

you've done a great job doing it your way I really and I knew that and I also like you know Joe you've got a big hand in my career and in what's going on with honey honey and how you've supported us and like there's something very special about not just doing your weight not tailoring it to anyone else's agenda like pretty f****** cool what you're doing my friend the crazy thing is you know there was no preconception there was no idea this was going to happen just keep doing it and do what you like and then eventually it happens but like when you and I would see Sturgill how fun was that so good how fun was that I enjoyed that so much because like we went to see another one of our friends and there's like real cool intimate setting there was some communication back and we so we both worked with Dave Cobb on honey-honey last record was produced by Dave Cobb and he does all of Surgeons records for the most of us and Korea guitars fast run let's set tone it down for the ladies he played like a like a love song and I was like

earlier about probiotics is there a benefit of probiotics once you've taken antibiotics to refurbish your gut Flora you know that's where the study is really at this point have demonstrated that it's very temporary in other words if you're taking probiotics you can get a boost initially but it doesn't sustain itself over time in the natural Flora comes back but what I'm saying is is it beneficial to people if they do take a probiotic after antibiotics does antibiotics do have a devastating effect on your floor is it beneficial for people once they have taken an antibiotic to take probiotics with rotary flourish at least temporary support that they don't stay around what if you just keep taking it they just don't stay around your normal gut Flora will come back and take over so the probiotics and of themselves are not giving you that long-term boost so you don't think there's any benefit to having even even short-term boost now there's one exception to that where I would say this is a very different thing than probiotics but we actually have a disease called Clostridium difficile which is bad bacteria that happens when you take too many antibiotics and it's colonizers your gut cuz you don't have competing organisms there and then you can die from this there are treatments for that called actually fecal transplants drinking poop purified purified bugs from the poopy right but you take that and that's what that's that kinda is what you're talkin about that does have real benefit and there is clear evidence that if you take those those people transplants as opposed to just probiotics with such that that can have a major positive impact on your recovery from things like classroom difficile infection and so more more institutions now actually are doing which you never thought that that would be but are those who've had problem there their life saving there maybe we should change the name that would get you don't forget it if you that's what's going to be nerve-wracking to people I've never really done much better much better

I seek the advice of experts whenever possible and what what I was seeing was that there was a lot of weird misinformation and I could conflicting information lot of people saying don't worry in a lot of people that were terrified I'm like okay I got to talk to an expert and lucky you were willing to sit down with us and help us out hope you tell him the stuff they're going to panic can I say what what's Panic if you see anybody ride in the streets yet have you seen cars turned over smash you seen people hurting themselves over this issue if they're concerned they want legitimate information and so what you need to do is just tell him the truth and we have many experiences like that a few years ago thousand people were in so we had a big town meeting several thousand people showed up and I addressed them and gave me everything I knew about meningitis were going to do about it a cetera and then towards the end of the flock I said I just need to let you know about one out of every seven cases of this dies and then they got on with dealing with it we vaccinated the whole town 20,000 people affection one weekend for this bacterial meningitis but it was because they had faith enough cuz we told him the truth and we said what we know and we didn't know so that's what we need to do here then you just have straight talk don't tell him it's low-risk hurricane that's when you do today is just say this is going to be challenging and we're going to get through it. We are going to get through it I hope this wakes people up to the value of vaccines to there's so many wackos out there that think that vaccines are you know us scam or they're dangerous or if it's there so many people out there that won't vaccinate their children I couldn't agree with you more I think that's really important point that the you know we got to get this idea these vaccines can be life-saving if we had one right now think how different the situation being wearing right now it would be radically different. You see that the measles making a comeback and vaccines we are just finally bring into a closed this outbreak of Ebola in the Democratic Republic of the Congo far Northeast part of the Congo 20-something 2800 people have died from this okay been going on for almost 2 years totally preventable mean I think that's why I have to say thank you for what you do say about vaccines cuz people listen to you and we need every positive ways cuz we have so many crazy voices out there right now that are seated arm medical innovation in in human culture and that's vaccines it's amazing what is done have there been adverse effect effects on people course everything everything that people do there's some people are going to react in a bad way it doesn't mean it's not a positive thing and there's a reason why the cases of polio or so tiny is a reason why smallpox went away it's because of vaccines text Nate until we get enough people not vaccinated and then look what happened there's a famous photo of two twins from the early Twentieth Century one of them has smallpox and one of them was vaccinated have you seen that I have I have skin all over his bodies faces hands and then his brother right next to him with nothing and you know what's really important to note here is that in that body all those things are very painful but what's going on inside the body is equally bad and so don't get diseases of terrifying they're really terrifying and went something like this can be prevented and the reason why people don't do it is because they're avoid vaccines and they get that information from some wacko website or some person who really has no business talking about it you know whether it's the people out there that the think that causes diseases or that the government plot or that it's a medical scam because just trying to raise raise money it's just all of it all of it very very disturbing but it's part of people you know that human beings for whatever reason there's a percentage of us that lean towards conspi toriel thinking and did the lean towards thinking that there's some sort of a plot against them or the government's against them it's just got to listen to Medical experts the chapter on coronavirus is the title is SARS and MERS a harbinger of things to come I mean we don't we should be funding these things almost like we pay for our fire department if we had to go out and buy a fire truck

ask about Lyme disease Lyme disease is a scary one right then. I mean so many of my friends in East Coast have it it's really terrifying that that did that part of the country in particular seems to be like really badly infected with these these texts that would carry this disease what can people do to prevent that and what what can weed has no vaccine for Lyme disease and I know there wasn't one point but people were having an issue with a good friend of mine actually got Lyme disease from the vaccine before they discontinued it what can someone do to sort of protect themselves United States named after Lyme Connecticut it's a disease that actually probably originated in the Upper Midwest and I tell you that because it turns out that there is a focus in northern Wisconsin and and East Central Minnesota where there's Lyme disease is a disease called anaplasmosis a human deer kind of component and back in the CCC of the 1930s the whitetail deer population had been virtually totally depopulated from the Northeast and so they actually trapped here in northern Wisconsin and took them out and deposit them in the New York and Connecticut and so forth and most of those deer are actually deer that you know today Hillsdale College in my knowledge of Davis we're up in northern Wisconsin that has Jerry come into the check station and they would actually measure the number of ticks are attached to the nape of the neck and they had a lot of things wrong and they asked Hunters who are driving back to Madison and Milwaukee if they would be willing to check in at the station down there for just a second and then they're going to count the kicks again and it turned out that as the vehicle come rolling down from Highway 51 from northern Wisconsin get on the interstate 90-94 and go to Milwaukee or Madison but it's just kept falling off that this Lyme disease issue is a key 1 Lyme disease is really important disease it's real no question about the challenge we have is that there's a lot of people that assume that they have chronic lyme infection and you're the data on that is just really really not there to support that these people are chronically infected but they do have an immune response it again for the bacterial infection it's a fact that this bought at your bone body's immune systems we've talked about several times today I starts attacking you so I think it's a summer picture with chronic fatigue syndrome same kind of thing these people really are sick they really do have problems but it's not something you can treat someone people I have a challenge because when people take IV antibiotics that extended periods of time for Lyme disease had what we call a double-blind control placebo-controlled trial where half got the drug half got a IV but no drug and it turned out all four of these studies in Lyme disease the people who got the gist of placebo did just the same as the people got the truck and I worry that were using antibiotics a lot there in this is where I just mentioned earlier about claustrum difficile died from the IV treatment for what was chronic lyme disease helpful and so we need a lot more research in this area to figure out what are these people getting what is it that we can shut off so that they don't have this chronic lyme disease picture knowing that it's not actually just you have to treat him or treatment so I can help him with the antibiotics anymore and so I think that that's an area that we just need a lot more working and numbers are growing as you know game systems really cranked up immune system is playing something bacteria but if we treat you is that like it's like every other picture you can really get rid of it but I used to have this chronic illness that's occurring and what I think is hard is that we see people who have those who are desperate to have somebody understand what they have and they end up going to people who take advantage of a clinician to charge them an arm and a leg for things that are not going to help them and drugs can we used to it reverses immune system disorder I am a friend of mine who's a UFC fighter Jim Miller and he's he's got Lyme disease and it's pretty bad he takes a stack of pills I don't know what he takes every day what do you think someone is taking and what what benefit would they get from that I couldn't help but I'm not without knowing what it's there but again it's not that the bacteria still growing like it might be for a lot of people in autoimmune it's autoimmune that which is real you know that this is another thing you'll find interesting Minnesota prior to the arrival the first Whiteman the Native Americans burnt March 1st 8 all the time the Prairies for much of the territory even in northern Wisconsin Northern Minnesota we had the classic you know Pine Forest firewood White's room and so much of the forest that the you have a very different kind of mammals population d r a cetera et cetera and with the suppression of fire what's happened is we now have instead of having these old growth for us we have all those younger you know Nann Pine or any kind of like the old trees of the Upper Midwest Elms in the maples and everything else comes in in the Buckthorn all that kind of stuff and takes over so so what's happening is in in our state of Minnesota is we have a really good example of this is we're losing her moose and the big primary reason is brain worm the North in Minnesota and where that intersection is we're starting to see moose develop his brain worm infection cuz it's from the deer so the tick population has changed to due to the fire lack of fire in many places in the Northeast never used to be like it was with her all the time that would clear out natural everything so so one of the challenges we have with Texas is there here we're not going to change how we live suburbs and trees and all of that controlled Burns eliminate a lot of them ironically the Moocher population is expanded dramatically Isle Royal why because there's no deer out there and so they're not getting brain worm out there so people have said you know the we're going to lose our mood as well as well as the deer so so fire actually has helped the most in areas in northern Minnesota where there's been a lot of fire the Moose populations growing because the deer or not there because exactly those mammals or rodents and so forth are very different and burnt-out areas and they are in will they do controlled Burns in some states I got a lot of friends hunting in Washington state a couple years ago and he said it was really weird because there's these massive fires in the distance that were actually being controlled they do it on purpose which is a lot better than having the out-of-control fires where you have so much fuel problem with the east coast is you're dealing with a lot of these sort of almost residential area that it had all these ticks for Lyme disease for us we need is there any kind of an animal not enough now they're they're doing very well thank you text do very well as you know so heavy in in certain times of the year at the really literally takes a lot of blood happens day after day so that is a hit on it's a real hit on them to pull up the picture that took a freak people out there to watch online just didn't need to see this it means it's not affecting me until someone in your family has it UFC fighter Marcus Davis who he put He had his wife got Lyme disease and he spent hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to trying to help burn in do something about and treatments and all these different things for it it's it's a challenge and this is another area again you know when you think of the amount of money we lose in just lost time let alone pain and suffering now this is the kind of infectious diseases really need to Renaissance I mean when we do a lot of the United States where they showed the areas that are affected by these 6 + what what percentage of ticks carry Lyme disease they've tested and some places in the Northeast Us in the 60 for sale you still there they're very real coyotes in Central Park they do absolutely in the Bronx they have them in it makes weird it's weird to see because this is something that just didn't exist before and how these coyotes have that all over the poor dears when they got rid of the wolves and they try to do the same to the coyote they just actually expanded their territory and they're sneaky very clever little animals adaption just like microbes coyotes. How when they got rid of the wolves and they try to do the same to the coyote they just actually expanded their territory and their sneaky very clever little animals adaption there's like microbes adaption

did I ever tell you the story about my friend Phil Hartman when he was a kid he was a roadie for Jimi Hendrix for one night he was like what it whatever you would call it a grip someone who's on the road a stage text and and and he's there putting his hands on speakers making sure they don't fall over because they were kind of seriously close to the edge and away from me I could have touched them Hendrix Phil Hartman told me with great with me and Phil Hartman got high a couple times when we did lose radio together it wasn't wasn't much he got high he got high a lot I matter fact I might not have even gotten I definitely a drunk anyway he was telling me about when he was a teenager that he worked with Jimi Hendrix he was at the whiskey when he was a teenager Jimmy died in the late 70s right I think that was 24 years later that make sense if he was like 19 is a time or some like that wow so anyway he's a kid and Hendricks is right in front of him and his job is to make sure the speaker doesn't fall into the crowd and he's looking up at the stage Santa in his prime and I went out when everything is going down you couldn't believe it was real you couldn't believe you stand right in front of you exist before Hendrix Hendrix and everything else is like what you read about Eric Clapton quotes about seeing Hendrick play for the very first time it's fascinating cuz you realize like the top of the food chain guitarist go to see Hendricks and then Phil said it was happening right in front of me fill in a wood dabbling music for funny really enjoyed like playing guitar f****** around do for him to be a kid and be standing right in front of Hendrick performing was like wow that's a new one right dog whistles only been around for like 2 years has people calling something a transphobia homophobic our sex is dog-whistle like holy s*** like you can't say anything anymore I was on the internet very early 1987 before the world wide web and you may remember we had something called you snap group yes and you snap groups and the way used to work because we didn't really have a widely spread internet back then accepted universities now is on MTV and when I saw the unit like holyfuck I'm emailing with kids my audience who are not counted in the ratings by the way College audience don't count in the Nielsen ratings released didn't at the time and they want something very different from what MTV playing so I was like wow this is interesting cuz I got into these Usenet groups in the way that worked if you post something and then overnight it will be copied all around the internet and how to connect with special server when you pulled into groups that you had subscribed to and so really it was kind of a it wasn't immediate conversation we post something and then people would reply back and I just kind of jumped into feet and immediately f*** you commercial what's the quote like that you supposed to go to the bottom and the top and I'm like well what's going on and what that was is the minute you have the opportunity for people to say stuff anonymously they turn into giant dick bags almost everybody this is just an easier way to do it now we made it so easy and with all the little the and I think I'm big Louis have swollen because of this and then you get this you respond differently to what you think is an attack in the attack Reddit and you know this shouldn't have registered in your brain is it something really dangerous to go back on them but they're not and that's the that's the best thing than the blue checkmark became a little more interesting which I don't have and I tried to get one for a long time and they somewhere over there hates me and now really I've never gotten a blue checkmark I don't want one now now to me it's the mark of the beast you got a blue checkmark you know I'd be looking over my shoulder man is like so now that's become kind of those those the people that now risk being deplatformed because you have status until it's going to bang against these people like the f*** this guy so it's some human nature that is just exist within us know if you really easier for me to go online and under whatever Twitter handle had Joe rubbing you dick wouldn't say that to your face looks to be the fuc up some know both my parents converted from Judaism to Catholicism where they met each other that's what I'm getting to is during the during the second world war they were both in New York first generation American Jews they converted for different reasons from each other and then they met my father's family was Orthodox and his father and him shepsle deubner would come here when he was in his maybe late 20s from Poland he still lived as everyday in Brooklyn as if you were still in Poland you didn't change at all when my father converted and his father found out my father was in the war he was overseas he was home on leave and his father was cleaning up in from my father's pants that he left over chair rosary beads slipped out and fell on the floor that's how his Jewish father ships will do when you're found out that his son had become a Catholic so what he did is he proceeded to sit Shiva for him the Jewish mourning ritual or for 7 days you mourn the dead he he declare that he would never again speak to his son and he forbade everyone in his family speaking to his son so I owe the time I was born I was the youngest of eight kids in this family because they become very Catholic I didn't know this whole family of my father's was unknown to me entirely so they did exactly what you're saying now did the same thing but it was less dramatic cuz her family was less religious so they still did take it all that she'd converted but you got any children yeah I got a couple again though it's alongside my first of the first book ever with long before Freakonomics with called turbulent Souls although it got been republished under different title called Choosing My Religion and it tells us the story of my my two parents around me are children so no chance but but on the other hand maybe this is what Freakonomics is what I try to learn through doing Freakonomics is you know to measure the what and try to figure out the why but then not be the judge who says that was terrible this is wonderful because you know different people I have to look if she absolutely were here we can ask him what's your side of the story he could tell us a story that might convince us that you know what this son of his did a terrible thing to the family did a terrible thing you know he would say how could it be that we Jews existed for generations and generations and generations when everyone lived there was always someone trying to you know get rid of us and then we finally come to America you know the land of Freedom religious freedom economically and Hereafter generations and generations of forefathers fought to stay Jewish hear my son decided to become Catholic what are you thinking so you know everybody's everybody's got a perspective everybody's got an emotional experience so I try to respect that but no I would not do that to my children that their pool with a pulling it back with fishing wire to keep it up on his head that just seems he seems oddly stiff you know I'm saying yeah like it seems like everything is pulled Victor certain amount of laxity in a man's face when he reaches a certain age particular around the forehead area I'm just not seeing it I'm not seeing any movement either which makes me wonder about that like I want to see expressions in your forehead My worry is his lack he has a very big that he lacks the ability to have like a cohesive story but he's not good at being bunch of little black kids be like in the black kids will come up and they see my hair go up and Bubbles come up his brain is it he's losing a lot of I tweeted something this morning cuz there was someone put a video of models on the runway on a catwalk and they're all tripping and falling at the same spot these dumb she was there and I was like this is Biden's brain cells it's like they think you're on the right path of the they get there are now and then and then he called his wife isn't everything you know that you know I forget what it was ever forget with The Gap was but it was one of those we listen to me like what your what do you say it like it's it's like he has no brakes I want to have a different take on it cuz I listen to I said all I know what he's doing when do you think it is from the bottom on the second he doesn't want to hear it what's the old man who can't talk like this is not a joke like that right now you know nothing play that again 2 into a mental hospital they should be like Hey Joe you are right he had three Strokes while he was saying that the first one what does that word dude self-evident is that we hold these truths to be self-evident yeah dude either drunk or you can't talk me it will just choose your bezel evident he shouldn't be doing this and then and then he says when he goes he could have just said all men and women are created equal and gotten out of there been like f*** it and said he goes being like f*** it looks instead he goes I think he didn't want to see the Creator because there's a lot of the religious thing what are you trying to say you believe in evolution or not are you a science denier Joe Biden the science denier

are you saying from your perspective saying like he he was a martial artist right so then isn't that still true without the movie should he was a phenomenal martial artist was definitely phenomena martial arts you can compete really compete well yeah I guess that's part of it but I mean like can you not compete and still be the top of a thing I mean is that possible I don't know man you know that's the one thing that if I was going to make an argument against me as a commentator for the MMA for MMA identify like it's kind of hilarious commentator for MMA you know I'm a fan of it I know mostly what I'm talking about I have it it's really interesting Cruise or work with Daniel Cormier can you call me in particular so I can of the best wrestlers to ever compete in MMA an active wrestling coach coaching two and Lara MMA coaching two but both guys are so good at breaking down the Tactical it makes you realize how little you really know about certain Specialties you know what is a good at what you did at the differences are they good at also articulating emotion and Publix the public of viewpoint that the difference I can give expert analysis of ground fighting ground fighting I can do the expert but just you know not to blow my horn but I know what's going on like the way a lot of people know what's going on with boxing I can tell you what's going on with chokes and when friends in trouble when someone's not and I could see it because I've been strangled a million times so I can't see that most MMA fighters at a certain point in time they know most basic s*** in terms of positions and when things are dangerous is. Gets exotic like weird rubber guard transitions or strange chokes like people invent new chokes all-time Zoe's like something new that you haven't seen before I caught a f*** that he do that and I have to go come watch it again but your people think how many people think that you did fight and I don't know how many a lot probably. I don't know I had two in one and kickboxing I lost my last kickboxing fight but as far as taekwondo I have no idea I won the Massachusetts state championship 4 years in a row and I want and I think it's called the American open which is a big turn when I came in second place in the u.s. cup that was a big thing in that was in Connecticut and I fought the national champion in the finals and I thought I'd beat him that was when I was like 1920 that was when I was at my best when I was around 21 before I try down for the Nationals and try was going to try to make the Olympic team that's what I was starting to box and kick box and I was losing faith in Taekwondo I was realizing that there was I had a distorted perception of what I could do so just wait for you and you were way more engage with boxing than you ever were with like it up yeah that's what it was I would go to these kickboxing gyms and when I would just bought when I kickbox guys I could kick them so hard they couldn't get close enough to box me a lot of time so I'd kick him in the arms I kick them and they be like what the f*** and then I could even though my hands weren't as good as those my legs were so much better cuz why these guys couldn't take it all so long as we're starting at a distance I could my legs into them and they just be terrified like so many guys just be worth who's trying not to get hurt and you can't kick this is a terrible feeling someone to see if someone in a fist fight I'm done I'm getting this pain in your arm like motherfuker it sucks dude but when I was boxing with you I was getting lit up and particular there's just one dude there's a box with his name was dangerous Dana rosenblatt and wound up to become the Massachusetts or the New England middleweight champion really good guy and I was sparring with him a lot in the beginning he was beating my ass and I was like damn this kid wants to fight way more than I do cuz I was already doing, the time and I'm starting to realize like I got to pick one of the other and then as I was getting into boxing this when I got into, right after my twenty-first birthday and so when I was getting into a trike really into kickboxing was like 20 into 21 and the same time I was thinking about doing stand-up and the same time as realizing Taekwondo is bulshit not not really bulshit but not for you and it's incomplete right to protect yourself you don't know where the punches are coming from me and you get used to it only way to get used to his to learn how to actually box and I didn't know how to actually box until I was like 1920 when I started going to these other gems and then when I when I realized I had these giant holes trying out for Taekwondo like doing Taekwondo tournaments and I still competed in Taekwondo but last I wasn't excited about it anymore cuz I realize like this is if I want to be a complete martial artist like I want to follow like Bruce Lee's teaching I found a hole in my game search it up there's a whole part that I thought I knew how to do and I didn't I got a punch things like I can post things hard but you think that's boxing until someone pops with a double jab left hook up to like boring to you too cuz I still wasn't the best in the country and I'd lost in the finals to the guy who is this Kareem Jabbar think his name was sounds good he was good I lost a lot of fights but there was ones that I won that I didn't get the decision of what a point system forget the side I never understood but I love boxing watching my whole life and things don't get I still don't get boxing scoring when you're like one where do they come up with these numbers just people that aren't good at it you know if you had like a boxing judge just like that's what I used to love about a county judges Letterman to tell you what the score was who tell you what the score was like so he would say this is how I have it play I wasn't bored with it in that I achieved the highest of heights it was that I realized it had holes in it like big holes huh big hole dig holes in a street fight with one of those boxers and I was in a bar where I couldn't throw a kick out of being deep s*** yeah deep s*** and side learn how to box but that was right still like Mike Spirit like I'm no expert that's my point like I'm not a guy who should be explaining like everything is going on but it's entertaining all these NFL guys are mad cuz Tony Romo got a 17 million dollar contract and they're way better than him on the field than he ever was on the eleven guys are getting paid way lesson this dude was the f*** is this dude getting paid as talking that's what makes Guys Like Me on Sanders he he does have and this is something that you would share his Acumen for the game is so strong but his also like his onions are so real that he's not trying to save a job a lot of times these announcers they strategist save a job you don't like doing the right thing me and say he doesn't give a f*** he'll call out an offense or defense and say well this is why they f***** up that last play and I think America goes oh s*** that's great that's cool to know versus someone just going here's a play-in there's a plan that would happen next better than anybody has he played The Game Genie just came off the field, and he's great DC DC, and yet Donna Cruz Paul Felder who's great attitude and all these guys that have fought before especially at the the really highest level maybe even fought some of the guys are doing commentary for they give real inside as two things that God does what they train for Tennessee's now he's great DC DC, thing yet. Chris Paul Felder who's great attitude and all these guys that have fought before especially at the the really high as level maybe even fought some of the guys are doing commentary for they give real inside as two things that God does what they train for tendencies

we think living Boulder Colorado Boulder pretty big TK play when I was at Arizona State people that b**** constantly by Usher and House parties like what are you f****** think this goes around since 1896 they used to be in those parties these. So it's either f****** come over and get high with us or move because basically made it almost impossible for young and new businesses to own that would be supportive of like bars or restaurant culture they keep shutting it down cuz he's old rich people in Westwood don't want that there they wanted to be a neighborhood despite UCLA tooth and nail to make sure that it's like no make the kids go f****** live in Culver City or something University how about that Zac Efron movie you live right next door to these Fox f*** that Zac Efron Seth Rogen movie Neighbors to go to the guy's house they go to the Frat the f*** s*** up also the dudes are the ones of the problems in terms of like violence explosions and in chaos drunk men way scarier than drunk women just cry we're supposed to do dumb s*** with 4-star getting drunk and you're also supposed to realize how dumb it is that you live in the house with these f****** Savage man that he like I got to grow up and then by the time those three years or 4 years are done and you're out you like enough I'm going to be a different person a little longer to be a venture capitalist I'm going to be an angel investor and put two of those guys have two of those guys still want to keep that part of moving school for a hundred years how long do you stay in college for 7 years never graduated I don't know if you did or not is his parents income from money right top partier get a degree in hospitality too bad so funny how much does it cost to get a degree in Hospitality will never use what you got to say how many how much a year is FSU he's got an amazing career in stand-up comedy and I'm sure his experiences in the University probably did something to enhance his perspective that would help them on stage and stand while they made a movie out of it I mean yeah Bert Kreischer Van Wilder movie I was hitting some Bert Kreischer has an English major for 6 years baseball hat not even a baseball hat you know like one of them weird fedoras but no shirt or no shirt existed and then he bought into it or he started it so it says Bert Kreischer freewaters water that they're very solid flip flop toe thumbs up

I wonder if if you want alot the inside of your knees gets accustomed to it like I get to calus in there will know like it strengthens is that possible cartilage look it up baby cartilage is gone out of those ultramarathons how they do it year after year after year cuz it would have canceled their whole life you do for a chunk of time to your niece your schedule if you if you just a b**** you keep going if pushed through Wendy's window fixing himself legs just break and no usually likes Calas over once I can there's a campaign for a great cyclist called shut up legs if you look up shut up legs it's like a whole thing about his people worry about running ruins knees but a new study finds activity main fact benefits of joint changing the biomechanical environment inside the knee in ways they could help keep that could keep it works moot working smoothly made arthritis come on Ronnie may be good for your niece that's the New York Times you dummy You Don't Know Jack schitt epidemiological studies of long-term Runner show that they made that they generally are less likely to develop osteoarthritis in the knees and people the same age who do not run sometimes scientists speculate that running running may protect knees because his often associated with relatively low body mass caring less weight is known to reduce the risk of knee arthritis there's no evidence and proof they're just saying this is a possibility the widespread argument generally Falls the lines at running will slowly wear away the cartilage that cushions the bones in the joints and causes fries for this little evidence supports the idea that makes sense okay okay so what I was saying I was incorrect I was just tried to jump paragraphs I miss the context of it you would think they didn't these volunteer stop stop go back these volunteers visited Clinic where they have blood drawn from an arm to researchers also siphoned off a small amount of synovial fluid a lubricating fluid that reduces friction inside joints when the right knee healthy knees contain only ones that were soup console speculative to there's nothing to research supporting it to channel knows well it makes sense though that your muscles would be stronger and then that would probably support uni better than a person who doesn't exercise that cartilage wears out either way anybody you know that's a great athlete that was said that I need to meet cartilage and we're through so much like jumping a lot like cutting exploding I left you know I can move that you would you want to court you know and then if you're running on a trail or it's got some dirt get a little cushion in the other something other some George in there this is a 2017 this one is more updated off of a new myth toppling new study that says that middle-aged Runners do actually rebuild the health of their knees what did I tell you I had an idea what is the question again with the scroll up could it be that marathon training and racing are actually good for Arnie's maybe a new study you son-of-a-b**** Runner suggest the answer is a qualified yes the study finds that taking up distance running rebuild the health of certain essential components of middle-aged knees even if the joint stops off somewhat tattered and worn when I tell you b**** show me the results also contain a caution John mileage Cooter Road one vulnerable area within the needs the study finds if one is not careful focus on running activity harms needs to do scroll down the question is that the end of it so you're giving me s*** about I wouldn't know you wouldn't do it either I would do a half either I'm not doing it I don't wanna run with all the people very specific spot it says the Improvement to the damage subchondral bone of the tibial and femoral condyle lies make I know that they do microfractures and s*** like they do all kinds of different things to people to try to heal the cartilage in the knees right now I just realize how privileged running is that was like I just got to run sometimes during the day yeah just so you don't get so fat from eating all the food you want that's crazy all of our problem in America is eating too much food yet and we have way too much access its were spoiled with it but I just realized I got to go I can run to the gym and I'm home and that's a good nice day I get to have nice lucky dude man no I wouldn't you know I wouldn't run a marathon because I don't like the people that do that's genuinely at you see all the people that get accepted the thing the culture I don't want to be a part of it no thanks play music for hours before an actual Marathon plan things miserable if you had a track or go standard University track this is how how how many feet is that like was that quarter mile what's most are you paying me and Jamie but it seems like that would be a great bet if he's ultramarathon Runners ruined put their money where their mouth is the get-together on track see how long ago or s*** * 404 quarter of a mile that means four of them four of them are a mile so if you'd be pretty close to a hundred how you get to run a hundred four times to run a mile time to run a marathon on a track laps Yeah a hundred Laps on a track but now you're closing in on Marathon around around a hundred times it 100 four times as it is a marathon no way no f****** haven't you hit 7 you're like all right I think I did it I don't to loop around the same watch look at this look at this football field again miserable but you miserable football field again miserable miserable

really bad stoppage this past weekend in the UFC really bad really bad I could so much controversy huh but this one was a bad one was the worst stoppage I've ever seen there was this guy who will pull up the you can find it in the UFC's I got to remember how to say this guy's name what he claimed he stopped the fight don't need to I was hurt and he wasn't hurt he was faking it okay so the Michael Medved Enclave she's think that's how you say it and I forget I say kudo Bella's first name of things to Aeon I think it's aeon coulibaly on soku Bell was playing possum if you watch the video you can see the video it looks like he's playing possum so he's pretending he's hurt see he got hit for sure but look how is his head back and forth he's Sakura man for that right hand right trying to pretend that he's hurt and then so that right hand the referee stops the fight while he's throwing her yeah yeah yeah he's like I'm fine what the f*** are you doing that's not a guy who's rocked if you watch it again you can see that he definitely is getting hit but you can also see that like when he like that this that's fake that that's wobbly with the head because you seem like Haymakers and trying to lower the guy into thinking that he's so her that he can't control himself in these trying to throw Haymakers please also definitely getting hit too so I can see how the referee fell for it but you got to let guys fight you got to let guys fight and sometimes referees in the interest of the fighter trying to save a guy from damaged they step in and they make a mistake that's an easy mistake to make cuz it is a really bad stoppage but because the fact that he was faking like he was hurt but he wasn't faking like he was hurt enough to stop a fight now it didn't look like it back with big wild Haymakers he can win any time has been many many fights where you see a guy win a fight is getting dominated because he catches go get overzealous and turn right and that's what we got robbed up referee f***** up or the you know the referee booked up but he also was a little bit tricked by this guy trying to lower this guy in by pretending and then exploding he didn't even if the guy was really that rocked it wasn't enough stop the fight that guy was throwing back he was defending himself it was moving back with his hands up and turn and fight you don't defy just doesn't end when someone gets hit or ignore the fight and you can't protect yourself anymore defenseless yeah Ace is trying to soccer this guy and I mean maybe he's got this thing that he does and he rocketed sounds like he's hurt I don't know where could have Bella's from is that rough going to die number if he's rushing at Randstad yeah the only that's the other thing other sports have many refs you're the only one dude and you're on edge and Shih Tzus when I stop another referees to go ocean I do. Her I f***** up this one is like this dude engine shakes when I stop when I get a pressure than saying so many other sports can rely on other referees to go ocean addict we f***** up or I f***** up this one is like it's a bad

guy whose life extension specialist was only podcast last week and he thinks that that's the future of regenerative medicine is that they're these advancements in stem cell therapy and medical technologies that they're eventually going to hit some point where they can sort of treat aging like it's a disease instead of like it's an inevitability treating it like it's a disease and actually reverse the process Ho Lee fuk you're going to go ahead 30 when I was 12 it up you going to go so far I'm going to turn into a little kid and your wife to go with you I just miss the old Tarantino we've never seen this before Andrew how tall are you how tall are you at 6 to 6 months and sometimes you're 511 like what and you look like you're 14 going to get me younger you like when you don't think you don't we don't know yet when I sure and then you come back in four months later and you're smaller still I'm 9 a year every 6 months a 9mm holding in my poop my anxiety is at a high I'm 9 but I'm 52 look like you too and everything you're ready to write shutdown mr. baby you cannot let him sign this he's too sick nobody has a capacity is not going to get to a point in time we just going to make Google noises I trapped a 55 year old man trapped in the head of a baby go back to us live forever I don't want to live forever but like just double instead of going to but then you go breakfast today I'll give you just had to go back to school at 10 and kids be trying to bully you and say stupid imagine what you would do to those kids murder but I just just talkin to them you could suck the good mind f****** electrolytes what's the matter by know about your end about your father's Addiction in my back to your mother for the neighbor there's a great there's a great scene does a phenomenal seen in a show called pen15 this these girls are like my age but they play Teenagers on the show it's great it's really funny but those are funny scene when she get pep talked into talkingshit during a fight and she's like her friends at call him an aardvark dick and he's like okay what else did she have against them he's bullying the girl and she's like whatever Aardvark dick and everyone's laughing and then she goes yeah and that's why your dad died and everyone's like oh s*** that's me if it's such a good seed and she said she thinks she's like f****** intellectual capacity to just shut down

did Fox News is designed for old people on Loop in my data on Loop in the living room so many old people want to go over their house there watching Fox Box new men over 60 is mandatory I can't believe these lips I can't believe them Fox News may start getting really having to pop culture that's when it makes me laugh when they stare like did you see what Ariana Grande was doing the other day and like nothing to talk about a ton of s*** oh yeah give me the presidential candidates that have been on Fox News like I think Yang I know Bernie's been on Fox News and I think Tulsi definitely been on Fox News as well yeah and people just get real mad at them whatever. Buckeye bottoms are too I just wonder about his skin that they're pulled a pulling a back with fishing wire to keep it up up on his head this just seems he seems oddly stiff you don't saying yeah like it seems like everything is pulled like there's not a I expect a certain amount of laxity in a man's face when he reaches a certain age particular around the forehead area I'm not seeing any movement either which makes me wonder about that like I want to see expressions in your forehead My worry is his lack he has a very big his he lacks the ability to have like a cohesive story his brain is an easy losing a lot of I tweeted something this morning cuz I was at someone put a video of the models on the runway on a catwalk and they're all tripping and falling at the same spot these dumb shoes there and I was like this is Biden's brain cells it's like they think I'm on the right path of that I get to know did you see the thing that he was talking about God creating women or no and then what do you say it like it's it's like he has no breaks his car is not going on the Hills I got a actually I like that more already want to say to me but do you know that you know that you can't be president. We can't play any games here folks this is a really old man who can't talk like this is not a joke like that right now you know the thing play that again this should get you into a mental hospital they should be like Hey Joe you are right do you know that you know he had three Strokes while he was saying that the first one what does that word dude self-evident is that we hold these truths to be self-evident yeah I'm right here again doesn't do it equal and gotten out of there been like f*** it looked and said he goes he didn't want to see the Creator because there's a lot of the religious thing are you a science denier Joe Biden a science denier that's it but that's part of the problem with all these my biggest beef with anybody in the Democratic party when he watches debate is they all want to say the thing that they really feel but they're tiptoeing cuz scared of the f****** minds someone going Warren Jeffs at T and she's not DC's anti-trans because you refer to their waiting for them to f****** while they're making people behave the way they would like them to be right there they're forcing compliance right another f****** minds someone going Warren Jeffs Etsy and she's not DC's anti-trans because you referred to as they did their waiting for them to f****** while they're making people behave the way they would like them to be a life they're forcing compliance right

I think you'll love the story the illness Amazon trip I told you about we land in this airstrip when is playing when we get into this Village and I'm like cool about today to hear it took the bus 5 days we're going to head upriver and are like translators like you can't do that yet what do you mean you have to have the shamans blessing to go upriver and I'm like okay what does that means I come to the Moloko which is the spiritual house spiritual house and we talked and we talk him to go but just like almost like idle conversation where he's almost like interviewing us it will what are you doing where you going where you from any other really understand any of this right he's like living in this community long story short he goes okay you can go but you have to take the blessing and we're like sure whatever you need for us to go so he pulls out the snail shell I can show you a picture of it the snail shell with a monkey bone in the top and a tube worm to close it and in the snail shells with green powder and he's like this is what you for the blessing so he goes around the circle and threw a monkey bone pipe he blows this green stuff in your nose not know that word that we heard I couldn't tell the name of the pipe no no the stuff they blow up your nose is it ddmt it it's coca leaf and tobacco I'm like all together and around the circle and he hit three guys and my brain feels like yes or gets really close to get this long tubular Monkeybone piping and it just blows it up in your nose and hit three of my guys and I'm watching a little bit nervous cuz like I'm very like standoffish on drugs I got I know things affect me very strangely anyway hit in the nose all of a sudden I feel like I've got acid on my brain like chlorine in my head I break into the sweat eyes explode and I'm like wobbling like this and it's 30 seconds later I'm just crawled over in the fetal position just projectile vomiting cannot hold it together and Lorenzo this the tribal Shaman goes good good and we're likewise as good and he's like he had a bad spirit in him if he had gone up the river he would have been killed he's just got the bad Spirit out this is why I had to bless you now you can go and I was the only one that hit like that are five person everybody else my brains or whatever I was literally fetal position feverish puking crate and I've never done any drugs like hard drugs like it's just not my my thing and this thing just hit me like a ton of bricks after he said that did you think it was there a scientist you're very smart guy but was there a part of you that was like mad it's just got right yes that's what's so crazy here I am nobody else f*** affected I'm sitting in the fetal position puking my brains out in the guys going good now you'll be safe and the whole f****** trip I've got that in the back of my mind going maybe the whole reason nothing's going wrong it's cuz I just had green f****** powder blowed up my nose super weird and nothing is ever affected me like that I mean curled up puking shivering when you trying to make logical sense out of this we try it when we like was was there ever a thought we like maybe in this extreme environment that's so utterly different than any other place in the world that these rules are different absolutely I'm sitting there going going into it I'm like cool yeah I'll do the stupid powder if it means I can go on my Expedition you know I mean like I'm not like embracing it I'm just like going through the motion to get my job done as a scientist and then I had this experience and I'm not saying I was enlightened or awoken or anything like that but all of a sudden I attributed my success and my safety in small part to the green f****** powder blown up my nose by a shaman through a monkey bump in the thing about it is even if that's not true if you think it's true and then you wind up being okay and you have confidence that you're going to be okay and maybe you have less anxiety and make better critical decisions because you think that everything's going to work out exactly exactly totally cuz I was super focused on my mission we were very very successful in what we set out to do and I feel like because I had that crazy experience and cures this old little jungle Indian going now you're now you're going to be okay I didn't have any anxiety going into the situation and before that I had no thought of it ever playing a part of the placebo effect right that's real effect by believing it something works right but is there a fee for a change in the way interface with reality if you believe that you've experienced some sort of spiritual in richening and then some sort of the some bad spirit is been released from your body is that possible I think so I think it changes your own reality because of your perception of the outside world that is a freaky thing for a scientist to say I am a hardcore I've never considered spirituality religion anything and I had this this crazy experience that is like Change My Mind Set On on crazy jungle medicine and drugs and catching animals at everything because this one got blue crap out my nose and I puked everywhere you want to experiment with other plant medicines the only reason I did that is because it was a necessity to do what I was doing it was coming from an expert if you will but a person who saw it as a necessity to do what I was doing and I was under his guidance to go out is because it was a necessity to do what I was doing it was coming from an expert if you will but a person who saw it as a necessity to do what I was doing and I was under his guidance to go out and you know pick a mushroom and try it and having experience is I don't I don't see the benefit in that but when someone who lives in that Community Embraces that wild jungle said this is my home in this is how you do it I will absolutely do it so you do it like out of respect absolutely

you were doing this like you've been involved with so this is like the family business sort of my family business is my mom's business actually it was Safari businesses so like like you say sit in the Land Rover see the animals kind of thing and they did a little bit of Taurus walking safaris but then I grew up on a farm on the outskirts of Harare Zimbabwe and then whenever I wasn't in school I was on the farm run around Barefoot catching snakes fishing yada yada and then when my mom wasn't booked up she had this little Bush playing the cheese for safaris and weed Adventure all over Africa sounds great I mean it's like one of those things where it's what you're used to write on moving to the states at age 14 and like trying to find my place in the world be in this weird little private school kid from Africa way more terrifying than going to meet a tribe in the middle of the Bush for sure I go to school pull my part of sitting in my uniform sewing to a very proper English boarding school pull out my pocket knife start cutting my Apple 15 minutes later I'm in handcuffs then like what did I do what did I do I literally had no idea what I've done wrong because I had a knife at school everybody I'd ever been to school without a knife to cut their apple like it was the standard thing so here I am with like police and guns and badges and they're throwing me in handcuffs and taking me out of the school on day one in America and I'm like this is the scariest thing I've ever seen and I didn't even learn until later that day that it was cuz out of pocket knife at no point do I think having a pocket knife is a bad thing so they didn't tell you know they just grab me there was like this whole thing like the knife went flying I was chained up another what's going on what's going on in big trouble and it's everyday my whole life and now I'm like when you think back about that do you think that's just the consequences of being in a law population for sure I mean like we like it was nothing like that but then you come here where you know the stabbings and stuff like that and it's because you know we had to do you think that it's possible that there's no way you could live like that over here and there's no way you can have kids with a bunch of knives nobody talk to you about it before you left the house she's from Africa or things so you were doing these always doing is walking so far as you started out doing the driving ones and then eventually you start doing the walking ones far as well which is why I have so many Hippo & Croc stories cuz we'd be canoeing down the Zambezi River and then taking photographs and seeing Wildlife that way what a crazy way to grow up man relationship to wild life is so different than the average person in this country for sure I feel like I have like regardless of being a scientist by trade I feel like I have a very intimate understanding animals cuz I grew up completely surrounded by them now what other countries have you explored I'm over sixty countries now or for biology contract before I did the show or just because like for instance when I got done with college I was like I had a little tiny little business during college sold it to travel the world and try and photograph these animals and I went to 28 countries looking for wildlife

fall down yes and it's honestly she's a little old to be falling down he loved it loved it like her to get hurt find dead yes ding dong the witch is dead ellos f****** shiny Bottom Shoes them b****** are useless yeah where the followings there's so slippery those those really expensive shoes the gals like it always have the the shiny bottoms walking and I believe she's talking about balance which is LOL the irony of Staggering so flat ground places that will see how she recovers she said new shoes does route Fox elbow and then did a roll Rhymes or a lot of energy in a roll good tecnico not bad but she works out a lot and she has got muscles she went and ran a marathon recently don't you think it's nice to see people falling it's humbling to watch someone like that way imagine you and Oprah in a race she's doing seadust UPenn many miles yes 26 of them that's what's 6 miles an hour about let me tell you something it's humbling to watch someone so beloved take a little stupid spill it's just kind of like yeah that the bouncer universe will affect everybody nice and watch perfect people fall a little bit there you go she didn't realize the story is going on around recently but it was 25 years ago before she ran it for a late birthday she ran one of the marathon's for like her the Philadelphia something if birthday 60th almost everyday but I'm never going to run a marathon because I don't need to as an insane amount of distance yeah cam come on does I know but it's like enough we get it and that don't fall off his body right right now they're going to follow the newest good send me your knees Camp send me your cartilage or your lack thereof

brown little girls like my daughter and her friends and they're all like talking much like sometimes they have a birthday party and so does like 10-12 kids at the house they're all talking s*** to each other I'm right and you get to just hover and listen such a thing and they talking about like some boys schools always enjoy ya so some door pictures Weezer, sing a lot this is the government going to let you know that the neighborhood going to be changing radically of the next couple years would just suggest you be careful things are moving a newfound Powers owners owners are coming to fly to the boner have you prepare for your boner even tells you what's going on when you get a hard-on like that day on the bus when you get a boner on the bus holyshit it feel like your day out my friend John Dudley calls them bumpy road boner bouncing around somehow I get boners sometimes you're probably eating what is it's probably the pressure on your prostate is activating your dick to get f***** and also you're on the way home and you might catch a glimpse of you know Natalie who's got that it's already who's to two young giant Double D's if I had a hard-on and I can't afford to get off the bus with a boner even though you took it up you know you took it up in your pants and I was always afraid to admit a stop or two sometimes if I get a hard-on the way home or I'll have you so nervous to walk home f*** that I have a friend slapped me in the face start fighting with a friend had to go through that all again though and didn't know anyting like that's the torture of seen Island understand boys cuz I've never been a girl but that they're going through like being 10 11 12 going through school all the social things not knowing s*** and you're a boy it's so confusing once you finally become a man and you don't have to do that anymore you just be a piece in your own skin hiding jerking off to like it like that I feel like a f****** she look at me like I'm in jail know what you're doing the bathroom for 20 minutes. Magazine ninja see me you know it's kind of part of the Allure walk by walking their dog in your house I think you can get in real big trouble I think a guy got in trouble jerking off in his house with the windows open. Up your primary I think because you could see into this guy's house and he was beating off they they came and got them like kids or something like that what the story was but it was a big deal or people are the guys just jerking off inside his own house like what is the big goddamn deal they had the door open for the window open or something like that and they stuff a wedge in the door and start f****** and it let everybody walk by a watch leave the door open and the dirty cameras voyeuristic thing never was like a thing from a know some people like f****** in public cuz I think it's hot to maybe get caught never never got me it was always like my I don't want to know that someone's watching me that's creepy to be arrested you get weird charges to like if you f*** someone in public in some places they'll hit you would like a sex offender charge yet because it's 6 exposure isn't God damn thing that every man understands and that's his little game they're playing a dirty game you keep calling guy taking a leak and you're saying it's public exposure but he shouldn't be taking it like outside maybe everybody's done it trying to kidnap a kid right now in one of those rooms with people that didn't expose himself and I was like nothing like these dude man I'm nothing like these Five Guys I was pissing outside View and bar walking if you pissed your pants I should have never I can't say it right I know it's not illegal you pissed your pants in public though you haven't had my pants on still ABC News in Europe that talk about bringing him some places in America

flip flops once a year when I go to Hawaii I don't really wear flip-flops I don't I don't like the toe divider I like slides you know slides I like slides dudes like guys who go to the gym like muscular young guys get their world slides and socks and they'll go wondering about if you ever wear flip-flops and socks and you went out with people with smack you there's a difference for some reason some guy you're in for some reason slides and socks is acceptable wear flip-flops and socks or not to continue the Ninja Turtle tell you can't do the socks with the flip flop cuz then your toe gets divided and it looks really weird strange yeah but it was ridiculous the only pair of shoes you have this a choice I made it obvious choice Mercedes Mercedes how's that why cuz it's like 20 bucks you just buy a new so you're not in the Gucci know you of all people asking me that you would never wear Gucci f****** slides I have a pair of Gucci slippers that my wife bought me how often you when I've worn twice exactly jack off the light cool hypebeast s*** you know you do you don't Jordan's Ferrari got angry at him because he has a Ferrari and he put two pictures of his sneakers sitting on his fur so what did Ferrari said that he they didn't send him like a cease-and-desist saying that he's damaging their brand his car speaker Guy Phillips I applying to see how do you say nothing crazy this is that song that is a beautiful f****** color I've never seen a green Ferrari threatens to Sue that makes me want to make a Ferrari that color that's a dope color and causes Ferrari further material damage that his behavior of increasing his own brand and product visibility again the cars pictured Appliance own Ferrari is essentially claiming that plying is harnessing its iconic imagery to bolster his own brand and also denigrate Ferraris how did denigrating Ferraris don't like the scroll back up it's just a dope looking color Ferrari and some pretty f****** cool sneakers those are cool I don't understand how that denigrating the brand who do they think is buying f****** Ferrari Ferrari Ferrari didn't go to Harvard the only picture of his dope green Ferraris brand is to promote people who are like self-made money making that's what this guy is right is need to set up there it is is that it is there any other one side of it his girlfriend looking hot and him looking sexy and here's a dope card Lambo my gold Lamborghini is that it is there any other one side other photos of it yeah it's just all his girlfriend looking hot and him looking sexy and here's a dope car Lambo my gold Lamborghini

do you want to get done sorry let me ask you a slightly different question or text me totally different as I'm sure you know if you look at any indicator of like Prosperity longevity health literacy access to food Etc humankind is way better off and it's ever been without an average there still a lot of people with a lot of trouble there still Parts the world that are still in bad shape so I was trying to get an amazing amazing Direction why are we unhappy I don't think we know how to manage our life correctly in life doesn't come with a guidebook it doesn't come with when you're in this condition seek out these remedies start exercising get together with your friends tell them you love them meet up and have dinner and hug each other sleep well sleep well drink water you know there's also you know so many of us have a bad head start like you're starting off you know like how about your dad he been growing up getting kicked out of the family I mean and then starts a family of his own will you don't even know your grandfather made its Madness right Madness so you're coming out of this stressful pocket or maybe your dad goes to jail or maybe your your mom dies when you're young all these things that happen to people where they have this bad start right and then they develop defense mechanisms to deal with all their insecurities and they get around similar minded people and Euchre the world and fuckeverybody fuc the police and f***** of this and then you get in these communities of people that think the same way and then maybe there's gangs and maybe there's drugs and maybe there's crime and despair and sadness in any because negative people maybe there's none of it but maybe there's no dangerous just f****** annoying everyday people complaining about s*** and you're stuck in the mud of humanity with people it's real hard to engineer 350 million people out of that but for yourself you can take Act make your life better and if everybody did that if everybody took actions to make their life a happier experience by doing those things by exercising eating well hugging friends and enhancing Community everybody pretty much and they all sound attractive so why hard for so many people to do it because people are lazy and the reason why we're lazy is because it's very difficult for us to waste resources on something that we don't currently do and even though we know something to be true that if you do this Ronica long-term benefits because it used to be a very rare thing to achieve I so if you could pick one thing let's say let's say I'm aware senior why would I pick one thing I feel like you know what society says everything is great I'm unhappy exponentially okay why is exercise the one did you get your blood pumping release natural endorphins and you legitimately feel better and I also think of the by think about this all the time I think of your body as almost like the energy and your body is like a battery and it requires a certain amount of use and when you don't use it it overflows and then you get weird behavior and overreacting to things and you almost like it and see if you got to get up and move I find what do you do with let's say you have to take too long flights that say you're unable to exercise for like you know 24-36 hours fine you don't have no I mean you you didn't do nothing you don't develop regular habits I can prove you're sleeping it may be accountable like 7-8 hours every week 4 and 5 or sleep well sleep with earplugs and eye mask anything like that don't have a problem sleeping kind of sleep well really need to know you're not a napper know I don't know I just never enjoy it really yeah you never tried it doesn't work when I'm done I'm done do you drink caffeine yes have you ever tried the caffeine nap you know about that are shut down shut down there's a balance there's a balance between being productive and being happy right and I think it's hard to find that balance because we look at like the the numbers that come in with his money or productivity or you know the number of things you've been able to create and you think of that as being like but look I can get so much done but if you maybe got less of those numbers but more of the numbers in terms of the amount of sleep you got you would enjoy the whole overall experience more I worry that I think for a lot of people who were successful in different Realms could be Sports business entertainment whatever successes intoxicating and then you want more of it right and then it becomes very easy to see that as the main goal at the expense of loved ones other people I'm looking for I'd like to know how incredibly generous and spirit to people around them but I find that you are a kind of its success often is driven by sort of ambition that's a little bit unseemly and I'd like to know how to deal with that a little bit better but it seems like it would be if it's a number game right if the success meeting like you're in a business you're trying to sell the most placards or the whatever whatever it is you know you have this thing in your head and like you're really driven I just say puresalem placards you already starting behind it's in you you have this goal in your mind being number one and you're obsessed and you know when everyone's going to tell your story told Bob he wouldn't let it go but every time I got there it was in the office and he left after everybody but look now Bob's got a f****** yacht and he's also got a pacemaker right Bob's ready to take over any minute now but also I think the thing is in pursuit of success I think would often happens that I've seen in people I know and then people I don't know but I've read about is that your moral compass starts to shift a year true there's a lot of people that are successful and we're only talking about business right when I'm talking about I'm thinking of some people in Academia who you know even though the average person may not consider the stakes in Academia super high but like if you get in a big university department and you start to write papers and get published and then get grants and accolades and so on your on a trajectory that's very intoxicating and then all of a sudden I think it's it's more I think it's tempting or not even tempting I don't think it's even a conscious decision you start to make decisions that are not as sound not as morally acceptable as you would have made 5 years ago when you were starting out and I don't like I see that happening a lot I see it in media I see people cutting Corners I see it in business I don't think it's even a conscious decision you start to make decisions that are not as sound not as morally acceptable as you would have made 5 years ago when you were starting out and I don't like I see that happening a lot I see it in media I see people cutting Corners I see it in business

I'm an optimist yeah yeah 100% glass is half-full yeah yeah have you ever tried to turn other people into an optimist and been successful no one or two degrees to the right over time maybe it'll change their Direction but the reality is you got to want to change yourself and sometimes someone's inspirational words can be the thing you needed and that sets you off on a good path and then you do make change but for the most part when someone comes to you and tells you have to change it's really hard for people to accept just like you were talking about in your episode on changing your mind right but I'm sure that a lot of people who listen to this podcaster who watches podcast have you know drawn in the both the explicit and implicit optimism specific reaction with them a specific interaction where I got them to change but they're also probably here in a million other people here in David Goggins and Cameron Hanes and you know fill in the blank all these different people to do incredible things and they go do I get the danger I mean to be down there cuz I'm not finished I'm an optimist to but the downer is the danger potentially is that and this relates to Suicide so you know suicide little bit of a mystery because it's such a tragic thing if it affect someone that you you knew or even you know even people you don't know it just seems like such a drastic solution to a problem that it's hard to imagine right but if you look at suicide rates through history and around the world variance but there's one Trend that's pretty strong which is suicide rates tend to be higher in countries with more Prosperity which would seem nuts right you would think that if your life is kind of very very difficult on a kind of Maslow's hierarchy level right now enough to eat worry about paying rent or being safe that you'd be more likely to be suicidal but it turns out it's it's generally the opposite not always and what one suicide adjust deduce from that are the kind of theory that he came up with its he called it's a no one left to blame. Suicide which is if you live in an environment where let's say you've got a spouse that's cruel to you or you got a terrible work situation where you live somewhere with a government is repressive whatever you can always kind of see a light at the end of the tunnel and you can say that you know when that problem is done my life will get better but if you live in a society like ours where you've never had to worry about having enough to eat you've never gone too cold or too hot where you're surrounded by prosperity and you look around and everybody else in like they're not depressed and you think what is it it's me the no one left to blame Theory and that's one argument for why there's like right now is a lot of teen and young people suicide in a country like America where the riches are the prosperity is boundless love your red Jonathan hates work so his take on that is that these kids are experiencing social media and they're experiencing this addiction to the internet and this cruelty that they experienced that the bullying the meanness the coldness and that when it started in on people and when they're losing their position in the social chain and they feel left out they don't have the tools to cope with that they're developing minds and this is the reason why you're experiencing this uptick that's directly correlated to the invention of the iPhone and the eventual the invention of social media application to all sorts of correlations will you see the inventions of these particular things have changed everything and then you see the uptick trying to keep up with the Joneses and this this feeling that they're inadequate or judging themselves against girls that are you know supermodels that are photoshopped and they just feel inadequate I hear you on all that we have to be careful that correlations proving causation cuz it's really tough because I totally want it looks like they both travel together. Right on the other hand history is full of correlations it looked good you know we're talkin about polio vaccine earlier polio for reasons they're still not understood by the way cuz I never really figured out the disease that just figured out of vaccines I never figured out what caused the disease but it turns out that polio would always spike in the summer time so there are a lot of theories maybe to do with being outdoors so parents would keep their kids indoors maybe it had something swimming pools people keep him out of swimming pools but then there was one theory that what else happens in the summertime that doesn't happen in the winter time ice cream consumption so there was a theory for a while that all Wheels caused by ice cream on paper the correlation looks pretty good so I'm saying look internet and depression and suicide are little bit more complicated than ice cream and polio but it's hard to tease out effects for sure know you're right but it's also hard to ignore the effect of social media on people's seems people are addicted to phones people are addicted the license of reoccurrence it's also been engineered in order to attract the most eyeballs and the best turns out the best way to get you outraged I agree but again just to bang the same drum again and again where there's grill with you where there's cost you got to look at the benefits and this is what I hate about politicians is they'll talk about a policy that they like they ignore the cost they talked about the opponent's policy they ignore the benefits so with social media friend since I know a kid a boy who was a friend of the family who if you were born 30 years earlier and there were no way to connect with people other than in person or phone whatever he would had a very disconnected life yet he just had some issues with with doing that with kind of in person he was kind of you know Behavior that's a little bit on the Spectrum just would have been very difficult as it turns out because of the digital Revolution he was able to build a community that is unbelievably good are there downsides to these things absolutely but you know you got to look at the benefits do I do I do I do I do I think human beings are adapting to a new normal and The New Normal is constant connection with all the people around us all the time if we so choose to engage and Lead are free so choose a problem is when it becomes more invasive than that right now it's if we so choose to engage but we get to some point we're wearing something that I transmit stuff into our brain always someone's wearing us if you don't if you don't do it then you can't be a part of this Corporation because we're about succeeding in this is the best way to succeed is to connect yourself to the network to uptick your bandwidth so that you can keep up with us come on Steve what's up headband that are you a tree Mystic about the future and in a general way now and with so that you can keep up with those come on Steve what's up next thing you know you were in the f****** hemp the headband that are you are you optimistic about the future and a general way now

the house I bought to write my first book was unbelievably I was so fun I could focus for like 14 hours a day 16 hours a day writing but the reason I was able to focus so well was because of cigarettes hydrate for about 20 29 minutes total focus go outside smoke the nicotine we just reset all the focus was an unbelievable drug but it's a terrible delivery system I've heard someone recently say I recently heard reluctant Trump supporter say the same thing about Trump that a lot of the things he's doing policy-wise especially foreign policy or Economic Policy really they like it so they said he's like he's like a cigarette like the drug is good to delivery system is absolutely terrible but that this one instance where I stepped outside with my brother after this intense moment and we had a cigarette and a few years later the book have been published I was buying the house now and newly married and I know that you're supposed to buy life insurance and so I got this insurance broker and he knew my name is that I read your book I said that's that's great glad to hear and then we started to price out the insurance and he said you know what do you do are you smoker I said no not a smoker cuz I quit few years earlier and then he called me back and said you know I read your book where you stepped outside to have a cigarette with your brother all the sudden I got the smoking rate for life insurance so this message I would say is really serious for anybody even if you've been smoking for 2 years they say if you quit your lungs can actually recover greatly so worth it he quit and that's how he quit so the best science at the moment says that vaping is almost certainly much better than smoking because they don't know all the chemicals and all the damage potential damage of vaping may or may not do but they do know the damage is cigarette the combusted combustible cigarettes and all the chemicals there are demonstrably pretty bad that even though like you said we were told doctors do it this is the best we told the same thing about sugar sugar gives you a great boost and so on but again my take is if you want smoke go ahead but wait a minute live in a finite life or wait a minute let's see now we are talking about who pays right so this is it gets back to the externality saying if you smoke and I'm paying for your health insurance as a taxpayer don't I get to have to say it's very good question and how far we should we extend that cuz if you're fat should have to pay ring you keep eating why do you keep beating right okay if you if you don't sleep well and you prone to heart attacks someone supposed to pay you know there's there's so many variables are you guys rock arms or what if you fall and break your leg have to f****** pay for that there's a lot of variables you got to wonder about when you start breaking down how much how much assistance people get based on their life choices at the way to do that is to free free healthcare then there should probably be a premium or I should probably pay into a little fund that is a pool additionally right you you theoretically hard to regulate Behavior because again where do we draw the line it what about BMX riding what about people who do this and that there's a lot of things that people hate to do everything you do you have to pay for the parents have to pay about driving the car you know my bad then we got to measure the benefit to CrossFit right you're building up your body going to live longer well that's positive and you're also probably hanging out with lunatics like you were riding you know crazy vehicles right so I'm a driver but I think that CrossFit the benefit yeah as you're getting in shape so that balances itself out as long as you do it intelligently you're you're involved in athletics but should we reward people should they pay less so if someone does Yoga 3 days a week and we supposed to make them pay less I mean I think you get into some weird swampy area people start Juke the system the same way when you know people got paid for rats and let rats loose and then f****** kill them gross yeah but we're improving

tricky part I mean that's why I that's why I like economist's because Economist are ruthless bloodless they almost don't know what humans are but they're very good at measuring cost and benefits and that's what I feel that our kind of political social media discourse is missing people are all for the most part Advocates are activists they pick up Blaine and they stay in it and they want to pave over the rest of everybody's lanes and make it and it's not a good way to be now it's not you know that's another episode that I was listening to of yours recently about how hard is gay people change their mind on things and I forget who the expert was who was talking but it was a really interesting point that he had about the mind like it was a change your mind you don't really have a mind or the mind of the community and if you step outside the beliefs of the community they can be very bad for you in terms of like your personal connections with people and I really enjoyed that episode funny thanks it's a it's a paradox though cuz the way you just said it like if you are in your tribe then even though it can be healthier for you and for presumably many other people for you to change your mind at least think differently about things right you risk losing credibility or whatever sentence like now you've escaped our group you are you're you're an outsider to my father who can both my parents converted from Judaism to Catholicism where they met each other it was very unusual it's a long story I'll tell you if you really want to know but anyway I'll do the short when I'm getting to the end this was during the during the second world war they were both in New York both first generation American Jews that makes they converted different reasons from each other and then they met my father's family was Orthodox and his father and him shepsle deubner would come here when he was in his maybe late 20s from Poland he still lived as everyday in Brooklyn as if you were still in Poland you didn't change at all when my father converted and his father found out my father was in the war he was overseas he was home on leave and his father was cleaning up and from my father can City leftover chair rosary beads slipped out and fell on the floor that's how his Jewish father ships will do when your found out that his son to become a Catholic so what he did is he proceeded to sit Shiva for him the Jewish mourning ritual were for 7 days you mourn the dead he declare that he would never again speak to his son and he forbade everyone in his family from speaking to his son so I owe the time I was born out of the youngest of eight kids in this family because they become very Catholic I didn't know this whole family of my father's was unknown to me entirely so they did exactly what you're saying now did the same thing but it was less dramatic cuz her family was less religious so they still didn't like at all that she had converted but oh yeah I got a couple again though it's alongside my first of the first book ever with long before Freakonomics with called turbulent Souls although it got been republished under different title called Choosing My Religion and it tells us the story of my my two parents run me to your children so but you're so scary at scary but it is but on the other hand maybe this is what Freakonomics is what I try to learn through doing Freakonomics is you know to measure the what and try to figure out the why but then not be the judge who says that was terrible this is wonderful because you know different people have look if shepsle do me were here we can ask him what by the story he could tell us a story that might convince us that you know what this son of his did a terrible thing to the family did a terrible thing you know he would say how could it be that we Jews existed for generations and generations and generations when everyone lived there was always someone trying to you know get rid of us and then we finally come to America you know the land of Freedom religious freedom economic freedom and Hereafter generations and generations of forefathers fought to stay Jewish hear my son decide to become Catholic what are you thinking so you know everybody's everybody's got a perspective everybody's got an emotional experience so I try to respect that but no I would not do that to my children I understand the outrage I understand being upset but I can understand choosing that over your son and over the relationship you have reached the end of the story then when that Grandpa and my grandfather I never met it was a long time ago my father's father I was very young so I didn't know the story either that was why I wrote the first book was fighted try to figure out this all the stuff I'm telling you now none of this I knew until I was in my twenties when I was writing this book but when shepsle deubner was dying of cancer in the may be late 50s or so a nephew of his who my father used to be very close with and who looked a lot like my dad and this guy with maybe in his early twenties late teens when he walked into the hospital room Shep so you know on his deathbed really thought that that was my father and son my my my dad's name is Solomon he called him shleimah and he was he was calling out to him shleimah Shawarma as if he was you know happy happy to see him it wasn't him though and my father didn't go visit his own father dying in the hospital because he been forbidden to go anywhere near I'm looks this is my religion I've been long fascinated by religion and I think that again if you think about it the way that Economist think about things there are costs and their benefits complicated hardcore atheists where they don't see any value in it whatsoever even though people are that they're getting some sort of ethical value moral value in the way I always put it is like it's like a scaffolding to live your life by you can live within these can fines and it really kind of makes sense if you follow it Loosely that we're doing to try to for the benefit of community a real community that comes from meeting and Sunday with all those other or whatever day it is with your religion and you meet in a group of other people that are also in the community and you are basically are staying together that you should do good things and be good to people and treat each other the way God would want us to like all that has undeniable benefits and it also says differently is like you're deluding yourself like your points the atheist or hardcore make points about the Preposterous nature of a lot of religious text her on the money but it doesn't mean doesn't mean that it doesn't give people the benefit and that I couldn't even disagree with them continuing it cuz there's a lot of people that benefit greatly from religion someone wrote to Assaf loneliness episode came out and said how did you fail to write about this supposed epidemic of loneliness without addressing the huge decline in organized religion in America which I thought was a very good piece of criticism that would have been a good because you're right it's a community one other thing I would add to the list that you provided what it can give is humility right because you know if you have an image of some Superior being God do you do whatever you want to call it you kind of understand that one mortal is you know the world does not revolve around me the other thing I would say and look it it's hard for me to scientifically logically Embrace a lot of the arguments a lot of religions make a special about things like the afterlife right that said even to an atheist I would suggest one way to think about it is if someone does believe in those rewards Rhythm and economically terms were talking about them as incentives even if it's a placebo effect in other words if I if I'm encouraged to do to treat other people well on the on the chance that if I do so I have a reward in the Eternal reward hey that's not a bad reason to incentivize people to do well sounds like a nice justification for them psychic house has a drive-by at the neon sign to helping people giving people a sense with the future going to be like a bad reason to incentivize people to do well sounds like a nice justification for them psychic houses we drive by at the neon sign the helping people giving people a sense with the future going to be like it might be imagined if that's where the real psychics are those neon signs

imagine that I came down from Mars and I look at you no human civilization I think you know this make sense this makes sense this makes sense we we've been interested in people beating each other since the beginning of time dabbling Solana the people who have turned against football the last that's a 5 or 10 years fueled by the CTE which is obviously a legitimate thing we don't really know the magnitude and scope yet but a lot of people who turned against it do it for a kind of moral argument that I don't want to support an Endeavor where people are hurting each other. Write how do you feel about that I mean there's a Libertarian argument to say what do you talk about people can do whatever they want they can do drugs they can Eco bungee jumping bacon workout stock trading which is stressful you know can do you can do whatever you want so where do you lie on that well I think first of all there right and you are doing something is definitely going to harm you however I feel like if you want to do something that you enjoy doing that's going to take some time out of your life that's fine night anyway who the f*** am I to tell you can't do that right am I going to tell gymnastics calling the ball crosses in a lot of the sub-concussive drama just heading the ball causes a lot of C I know a lot of Youth leagues now we're starting to cut out heading which I think is probably pretty good idea going with that because we didn't even touch the surface of this I'm in favor of people doing what they want to do with their life if you choose to do something we likely are we going to take away race car driving because that's one of the scariest goddamn things a person to do not as much anymore 2000 Dale Earnhardt Jr on his body out anyone in depth about brain damage that he's gotten from multiple crashes he talked about the severe impact of the concussion he talked about the difficulty coming back into the different modalities a different medical treatment to these had to have I. Dale Earnhardt jr. this after his dad is gone right this guy talked like real extensively on this podcast about his personal struggle with brain damage that he's received from car accident scary way to make a living. Arguably more scary than fighting because there are guys like Mighty Mouse Demetrious Mighty Mouse Johnson is like this elite MMA fighter that barely gets touched there's guys like him they don't take any damage and then there's guys who are Elite NASCAR drivers who wind up me crazy collision and go sent through the air and they wind up in the hospital all f***** up the impact was the impact of Internet Cade just your brain rattling around inside your head f**** you up and we're letting people do that and I don't think we should I think we should let people do whatever they want if they want to do they want to take a tightrope walk across the Grand Canyon and film it on YouTube I can't I'm not the guy unless it's over private land for public land with there's a law against using it who are we to tell people they can't rock climb who are we to tell people they can't ski where do we draw the line where do you decide a person can you make a good argument I don't think there's a bad argument with what you're say it's saying that it's it. Causes damage to people you're right by the way I'm a I love the NFL I would cry if it went away on the other hand and I and I know a few NFL will now former NFL players one of whom stop playing in his 50-year way earlier than had to cuz he was worried about CTE but also he was getting a PhD in math from MIT at the same time while he had a plan yet an alternative but then there's another guy combination keys and you should have money or show John Urschel his name is Urschel Domonique Foxworth play for the Ravens but I've got to be friendly with them had a great money-making career because he kind of got his big contract in his whatever 4th 5th Year took out insurance on it then got her in there and really never played again so he banked enough money Daddy went and got an MBA from Harvard cuz he's a bright and interesting and ambitious guy he will never let his son play football like to hear these stories about the guys who done it who made a life you know out of it and it just really makes me think about your right everybody should have the right to do anything for their own livelihood or for their own excitement right on the other hand like if we had the Coliseum today per se like the modern version the Colosseum if we had the Coliseum purse a fighting the Tigers slaves getting thrown into fight the Tigers we don't like that like the line things are repugnant until they're not and it's hard to predict where that line is a lot of things that used to be not repugnant slavery fine the whole world if you had the ability to do it right and then go straight back to the Coliseum the same thing and whatever the cultural line is especially depending upon how many people died around us how much plague and murder and do you do it right and then go straight back to the Coliseum the same thing it's like we have a line and whatever the cultural line is especially depending upon how many people died around us how much plague in murder and how much you know how much you're dealing with war that line moves yeah yeah

as a person who performs it and also has an audience member when I'm an audience member and someone's killing I'm letting them think for me right I'm not even thinking I'm just letting them take me down and say it like Dave Attell Dave Attell was at the Improv the other night we work together and he was f****** amazing one of the best I've seen from him and he said always been amazing but he was on fire and we were all it was me and my friend Owen Smith and Tony Hinchcliffe we're sit in the back room and we we're watching Dave and we were in a trance we were just laughing we were letting him think for us you know I'm saying like he's doing all the thinking we're just on a little ride to Dave's taking us on this ride and as an audience member I recognize that there's a mass hypnosis there's nothing that happens when we all get into this mindset and if someone is like really well-crafted material like Dave Attell and they take you on that you let them you like me politician is speaking quick question for sure Trump has a lot of elements of stand-up comedy in his routines for sure 100% if you watch his most recent speech where he's making fun of Joe Biden saying a hundred fifty million people are killed with guns at the First Lady oci keep doing stand-up so someone took it and they made a video saying Donald Trump at the Apollo and so they put him doing this speech with audience reaction from people watching stand-up comedy and laughing at a laugh track over it and it seems real it seems like he's a comic what about Bernie Bernie has a powerful speaker but I don't think it's that funny funny thing every now and then when you talk about like going along for the ride like doing the thinking for you such an interesting idea bright is a trustworthy person people trust him they see him up there he's not polished right the thing about Bernie it's like when he's saying things so there's and theirs and theirs you know anybody either the different kind of Polish what do you mean look polished performer fill in the blanks loading up his weapon for the next line when he's going to throw and call crazy Hillary lock her up like a stand-up it's basically look he's doing stand-up that's my buying is so f***** he's so f***** cuz he can't talk right he has a really hard time talking he keeps screwing things up and it's a real bad horse to bet on cuz he's an older guy you're still a Bernie guy I'd love the guy I love what he represents who wants to do good for people that don't have much that's that's a sentiment there's a desert quality that I think helps us as a community as a community of the United States if we have this agreement hey let's see what we can do let's see what we can do to balance things out and take for the downtrodden for the people that are hurting concentrate on them and he's made that a huge priority of his life and always has and it to deny that like look what he's trying to do I don't know if he can get any of this s*** past I don't think anybody knows until he gets in there but the idea is were saying we want better for people who don't have much yet that's what he stands for and you can call it Democratic socialism but it's an idea the idea is like helping people just helping people helping people you don't even know waking the world a better place than the corollary what's the Trump idea and why did it succeed bunch of pussies out there trying to ban Free Speech bunch of pussies out there come on America's number one f*** you f*** yeah there's also he doesn't talk like a politician you know we talked about China you go to them listen motherfukers when they charge 25% every like it's way more entertaining ever lived and not even close he buries all of them and he drags him if his fight even Hillary's now talking differently about other people she said about Bernie nobody liked him you would have never said that before Donald Trump she would have never ordered those word his victory over her is deep in her DNA now she starting to exhibit some of his patterns aliens millions of people who say nobody like him or nobody liked him in the second course course people like him and then they started running I like Bernie this #I like Bernie start popping up that behavior is a direct reaction to her getting pounded on by Donald Trump through the entire campaign are you still there and let me ask you this you've talked to a lot of people from all different Realms in here right if we can agree let's say that being entertaining is not a great prerequisite for qualification for being if we can agree on that what can be done whether it's in the political sphere the media sphere putting something in the drinking water to let people to encourage people to have a little bit more of what you're after whether it's compassion with at understanding whether it's balanced where there's moderation another Ridge why is the entertainment Force winning right now and if you don't like that notion what can be done well the entertainment force is written for whatever reason is being portrayed through Trump only see he's not a politician he's a guy who's a media star he's been a media star for decades he knows how to manipulate the media he knows how to sit on the Letterman couch and kill he's been doing it for a long time is very comfortable being in front of cameras none of those people have those kind of skills and nobody thought of it as a skill they thought of a politician being a politician stuff guys calling you crazy Ted or lying Ted you know lying Hillary heated makes up dance or you sleepy Joe I mean and I'm smiling because it's funny cuz he's good at up he's funny he's good at it there's a problem you should have a goddamn popularity contest to see who controls thermonuclear weapons that's f****** stupid it's stupid tilt allow pee but it's vote but it faces the popularity system we've got and that's what I'm asking you is what now I'm in the way that these election no cuz I don't think it was me if you look at the Lincoln-Douglas debates those are actual debate but I mean let's say that you're not happy with the way it is and there's a lot of people even there are people who like Trump quite a bit on some Dimensions who are very troubled by other dimensions there's a lot of people out there who are open to like no let's let's try to adjust the thinking let's try to change her mind try to not be influenced as much by what we're being influenced by do you have give me pointers the real problem that we're having is this tribal Battle of left vs right and the the strongest voices on the left the loudest voices in The Most Extreme often times are the worst representations and the same with the right the loudest most extreme team member so the people at the front of life okay we're going to kick their ass with me and there's also these ideas that we have that are cemented in stone that you know if you are a left-wing person you believe in XYZ this is your doctor and maybe you think that maybe maybe we should incorporate a lot of things we do with the fire department and you know when do that to schools and do that to housing and do that. Make sure that all the stuff covered make housing like an important part a civilization but for every but we did a piece of Freakonomics radio Pizza year to go cold Americans hidden duopoly and it was about the Democratic and Republican party basically acting like Pepsi and Coke right they kind of divide and conquer the market and they built an industry that is incredibly valuable to me is this Trump won the presidency as the Republican that the RNC most wanted to get rid of Bernie last time found was the Democrat that the DNC wanted to get rid of they lost by getting their candidate Hillary in this time Bernie may very well become the candidate is again the party of the DNC is out to get to what is it say you've got a duopoly literally the machines running the system that we kind of let ourselves get manipulated into buying like you said I've never understood my mom my mom and dad were democrats for a long long time typical Catholic not so difficult as your former Jewish got the typical Catholic working-class big family meat potatoes issues no-brainer that they're Democrats okay and then but my mom is a devout Catholic she started the local right-to-life chapter in Upstate New York where we live New York state has legalized abortion before Roe v Wade so she was fighting that fight early when that happened and the Democrats lined up against in favor in favor of legalize divorce she switched parties everything else about her was still mostly Democratic but she had to become a republican because of life and that's a that's another powerful one that got integrated into the right and it happens to all of us though we take there's one issue that kind of sets people off and then they have to join the team that they met everything else about her was still mostly Democratic but she had to become a republican because of life and that's a that's another powerful one that gets integrated into the right and it happens to all of us do we take there's one issue that kind of sets people off and then they have to join the team that they met

retirement is a relatively new concept is only for the last like 1,800 years that used to work yourself pretty much and then you die and I do find that a lot of people get lost after they get up the thing and it's it it's you know it's it is kind of a rich kid problem and they just don't feel good I don't feel productive people they don't feel helpful yeah well that's the thing they say the single best if you're feeling down generally about yourself the single best thing they say you could day as though there's some Quorum of that you all agree on everything but a lot of people say the single best thing you can do in this was in our loneliness episode as well as service helping other people so do you have you run across anybody that you've been reviewed who you thought had a great kind of prescription for how to help other people like doable sensible know that if people really like I thought you know I work hard I try to love the people around me but I really want to have some kind of service component but I don't know what to do I'm to question I think first start with the people around you right start telling them you love them hug enhance the sense of community that you share with your friends your loved ones do your best to sort of be the person steps forward starts it off you know like makes an action tell someone how much you care and appreciate them I care about them and appreciate them when you maybe wouldn't have done that ordinarily you can we can all do that and we've all had it done to us and it feels amazing when someone comes up to you out of nowhere and goes hey man I just want to tell you I really appreciate you I know I know sometimes we don't talk to each other that much but when I do I really enjoy it I just I love you give me a hug I just want you to know I'm very fortunate that I have a lot of friends that do that kind of stuff real supportive group of friends and if you don't you long for that and I think that's a big thing like become that person really want and try to try to start that I can't imagine anybody hearing you say that would disagree such an Obviously good way to be and yet and yet I find that so many people kind of go out of their way to not just be generous cuz they're scared there's not a scarcity there they think that they have they have to make it and that if you make it 5-0 some are a loser yeah it's thinking it's real real real, our Hardware is the same in our software is not but you understand what it is and then you have that time to adjust that's why losing in life is so important weather is getting dumped getting fired losing a game loss those feelings where things didn't work out your way that's important because it lets you know this is a bad feeling that comes when it goes wrong and you improve and that it makes the good feelings of Victory all the better and I mean that you know when the relative sounds like even getting good at something good about Victory like making terrible book to get rejected by every publisher and then writing a really good one and people accepting like f*** I got better yes like the feelings of failure are really critical for your motivation that's interesting I've always thought of failure like or like like a failure or just like a bad event I've always thought that they were good because I'm like a scaredy-cat in some ways right and then if the very bad thing happens the very beard happens you survive it and then you learn to shed more fear and more directions you know what I mean so I could look at it that way but there's a lot of ways you can look at bad events you can't I a bad event is just who you are and you just have bad events in your f****** loser in life hates you and God hates you and look at that happened in the Mike again can't f****** believe it is a lot of got to go through life like that and you know they can say that they seek comfort in lowering the standards that they expect out of things when things go bad they say lot I f****** knew it for them alleviate some concern about what's going to happen the future cuz of Future's always dogshit know by doing that they've taken away the fear of Rights eating the fear of overcoming the fear of improving the fear of getting better as a human being has exhibit the same patterns you fall into those patterns other is alcoholism a gambling addiction tracks addiction people falling those because they are accustomed to it becomes a normal part of your life I think that's a scary thing for people want to buy pattern and to say okay I have to stop drinking how do I dress right what what steps are make and what's the best way community sponsor now and they work together that's I think the solution is as a really good so you know I have three brothers are all older on the youngest of eight and I don't mean to disparage them and I also know year younger than me but I kind of wish you'd been my old whether you would have been really good maybe Robin sucking up p**** come on man stop crying yeah that's okay with your brother and sister sometimes the only people that really know you like I have conversation with my sister sometimes she's the only person who really knows our childhood rain will talk about it was like 1 or 9 and ran and do you have the same option of it super honest right and she's what I mean you remember you remember yeah yeah yeah anything right we both have real similar Recollections of our past so it's a bit but those people that have experienced those things with you there like the only ones who really know you deep at your core and the more things you can experience with people the more you can share that sort of the people that's make me sad that people have no friends and no confidence they have no one they could talk to let me know when that knows their seat said there's no one that they can tell terrible joke to that you would never say an in mixed company right do you have no one who you know especially comedians We are the world famous for it we say things to each other all the time. Of the most horrible things and just to get a rise out of each other like one of my friends will say something terrible also in our culture there's a currency of being able to joke around like that of course physically if somebody makes one of my friends makes fun of me it's hilarious it's 5 and we do it to each other all the time because it doesn't actually like a currency and be able to take it to like you can make fun of Andrew doesn't give a f*** it's hilarious it's 5 we do it to each other all the time because it doesn't actually like a currency and be able to take it to like you can make fun of Andrew doesn't give a f***

chocolate poison has gotten so much better than the fact one wrinkle of climate change and global warming is that the particulate the soot in the atmosphere in the 60 50 60s and 70s with apparently what kept things little bit cooler because it refracted sunlight knee or ankle that's the irony is you clean up the air and you allow more bleeding where when people reduce it to the headlines and then divide people into tribes exactly the opposite of what you want perfect example because it's clearly a right vs left thing too and some people circles if you are on the right you're supposed to say it's exaggerated it's a hoax it's a distance and that's not my concern my concern is jobs my concern is if I give you repeat the talking points and if it's on the left that's how dare you think the biggest I know it's it was not a bad imitation I think one of Obama's biggest mistakes he plainly wanted to address climate change global warming but he did it in a kind of standard left Democrat Way by calling a global warming by saying that there were bad actors which is true the thing that astonishes me that Democrats haven't done is talk about it in a language that every Republican every conservative every Hunter fishing would respond to which is pollution which is what it is by the right right there why why it became a conversation about a much bigger much more abstract much more difficult to understand and act on problem is strange to me because you know humankind comes together we came to look polio vaccine it wasn't like everybody was working on it but there weren't enough people concerned about it and then you had a president who said hey March of Dimes let's have everybody raise money come up with a vaccine and then Christina liew no salt with the vaccine is just interesting about the way medicine works today you basically said no no I don't want to I don't want to own this patent he could have become a billionaire you know this was this is this is the way we have fought in our passes humans about solving big problems we seem to have gotten away from that a little bit and I think that's weird to me that tribalism is the most dangerous it's not about the political charades I don't care about that don't think that's particularly damaging why I think it's damaging is by dividing yourself into these tribes are so exclusive and they have these purity test what we're doing is weird actually diminishing our Collective ability to come together to solve problems the good news is there's a million people out there at academic institutions in garages groups of one and two people who are working on solutions that are that keep coming you know human humans a species Jonas Salk when he did create That vaccine the world was a different place and it wasn't this pharmaceutical industry that we have today that's you know what has such a strong ability to influence the way people look at things through advertisements and just threw the way the influence politicians where is it's a different world to compare what did the Bounty that was awaiting Jonas Salk for coming up with the polio vaccine it's just a different world to the world different he didn't give credit to the other people to help him with the back yet there was an I do I do you read a with money but not good with people I haven't read this in a long time so I can't I can't speak to it but I would even like I've been do you like Richard Fineman you know Richard Fineman so so you know when he talks about and I love hearing him talk about when he was drafted to work on the Manhattan Project and you think about America was it was an existential fear legitimate about all the complications that we have an enormous scientific challenge we have an enormous competition against the Germans were trying to do the same thing and then even if we win then we have another hole challenge is tomorrow challenge but there's a way of thinking about those things that again wet measuring the cost and benefits of people who'd might disagree aggressively and they did about Manhattan Project can sit down and say okay here's here's what we're going to do what's the what's the lesser of the two evils and I feel like right now as much progress as we've had I feel we've gotten worse at looking at the lesser of two evils pass that looking at weighing costs and benefits for what is the lesser of two evils in that regard as it dropped the bombs and stop the war or is the lesser of two evils never drop the bomb and stop the war later yeah I mean look there's a million books been written about this I could make an argument in in either case I mean Japan we were very very scared of Japan Japan and showed a lot of ability to punish the United States even though Germany was out America still felt very fragile so I totally get the argument that it was meant to be you know I get it to ya on the other hand your picking some pretty big city to drop it on and you're picking too so you know killing mostly civilians yeah yeah so it's hard to imagine that decision will be made today you just said about being a polio vaccine different different case but roughly same time you're in you know it's very hard to project your ma rolls onto you know 50 years from now we may have a very different view about MMA friends since it's very hard to protect it for more people literally out of existence but I think that just the fact that these brilliant scientists were forced into that moral dilemma like one of my favorite videos online shopping what is discussing what he said when the first atomic bombs detonated and he pulled the Bhagavad Gita and he said I am become death destroyer of worlds and is just to say that it to see have you seen it the video please let me let me play before you play Oppenheimer right after went describing what it was like cuz it's so Eerie ki'teer you have one of those brilliant scientist ever who completed this fantastic project Manhattan project that literally were nuclear weapons never happened before in all of human history as far as we know and hear the guy that did it that knew that knew that was going to be the death of untold amounts of people listen to this listen to what it says line from the Hindu scripture the bhagavad-gita Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince but now I am become death the destroyer of worlds I suppose we all thought that one way or another imagine being that guy I mean here's a guy first of all according to Bhagavad Gita in 1945 little ahead of his pretty pretty incredible or 40 it was 46 when did they detonate 40 the test where I think 44 and Hiroshima and Nagasaki 45 correct this guy who you know is just a brilliant scientist he's not supposed to be the guy who destroys a half a million people in One Moment One brief flash of light and vaporizes a half a million people he he went to the school in New York City called The ethical culture fieldston school which is where my kids went so Oppenheimer is kind of a patron saint for having the brains to do something unimaginable and having the ethics and courage to know that what he done was unacceptable on some levels you know on the other hand would look if we're talking about costs and benefits let's think about nuclear power nuclear bombs as a deterrent against others down the road rights you have to say killed a lot of people how many lives did it save impossible to say argument right then y'all drive to talk about then that's also talk about nuclear power which was the byproduct of this right and there are those who could argue and I would probably need this argument to say that if the US had continued on the path of nuclear power in the 70s rather than totally flipping out after well after Three Mile Island then later Chernobyl which is much worse accident at Three Mile Island if if that had continued what we have now is probably much much much cleaner cheaper safer nuclear Fuel and instead what happened because we basically stopped building nuclear plant instead for the next forty years we weren't a crap load of coal that's been terrible for the environment for lies a lot of lives lost in mining colder than the pollution so so you know actions have consequences with seems to be all benefit off and has a lot of costs and life is complicated but I think the more with the Wii measure and weigh things sensibly the list screaming there is I I just I love changing my mind I love hearing somebody make an argument that makes me say oh you know the way I thought about that before I see why I thought it I don't feel like a fool for having thought of it wound now that now that you've laid out some facts and laid out some counterfactuals I appreciate the opportunity to change my mind I enjoy that I don't know why I think we're so often you are a Diaz like our ideas are part of us and we're losing if our ideas that we've been discussing or incorrect if our assumptions were incorrect is a value judgment against us right you know I think the nuclear thing is interesting because I think one of the problems with what happened was the shity design of like Fukushima where they can't shut it off as freak people out rightly so and it's in there it's built in a bad spot and The Back-up Plan sucked everything's wrong and hotspot I was going to be like that for a hundred thousand years break there's a better way and they never had a chance to find that better way because they've had a better way for everything else in those later ones the ones that their operational now are far better than the Fukushima month and they could have gotten way way way way way better and that is it's one of those things that doesn't seem like a make sense like women nucleares clean it's working really clean it's really clean if it's done right and if they allow them to innovate over those forty years we would have got to someplace where it's like super efficient just like everything else if you look 1970 car right and then you look at a car from 2020 how did Tesla like maybe they would figure out how to really knock it down so that means there are still a lot of people working on next next next next Generation nuclear power MacLean Bill Gates's involved and including some that are working with using as fuel with called spent fuel in a traditional nuclear attack traditional nuclear a big problems at 1 so it's eventually going to crack do the bunker and toxify everything around it maybe before you could also theoretically use that as literally as fuel also

has grown now oh my God it's crazy changing talk about it too much I've lived in my wife Tina night we got married in in May and we bought a house together but Southeast Austin about we were living downtown right downtown I had a place there and we moved into an apartment together and we just saw it happening it really started with the with the scooters that's really what started to mess up Austin overnight like what the f*** is this I'm just there everywhere and Austin are been trying to create a bike Vibe with the bike paths and you know just all the stuff which is ludicrous when I grew up a riding bicycles and it takes maybe 50 years before everyone is accustomed to Bicycle traffic and has not just something with Bill Tina I turn right around the corner I still look look at my right mirror I look there so that make sure there's not a bike next built-in no people don't do that to people always getting hit and then the scooters pop up and it's just met him everywhere there on the sidewalk there mowing people down people it's nuts well now there's that yeah you going down if he's 25 is already pretty fast he flies from do about 15 15 17 miles but what I noticed because all the Silicon Valley companies are opening up offices in Texas a lot of men Austin and that's where they put the human resource heavy stuff so not the top programmers this is help desk this is the people who reviews YouTube video so you know they're there already kind of wax are the watch nothing but death and destruction fuckedupshit all day long he doesn't really have a connection to the city 2, like I'm here for a couple years and I'll go move somewhere else so they don't care and they're on the scooters don't really care about the city about that the whole life has become increasingly more Boston has some other problems kind of following what's what California at-will San Francisco Los Angeles to Portland Seattle neon following the let people camp it everywhere things less become a real problem and it's crazy here it all comes from a lawsuit in Boise Idaho and that's where this started where in the first went to the 5th circuit in 9th Circuit Court there was an appeal that said you cannot move people who are camping without having a suitable place for them to stay you can offer them because then it is a violation of 8th Amendment under cruel and unusual punishment that's why until that solved is cruel and unusual punishment to move someone who's homeless or not move someone who's camping if you can't offer them adequate housing so these people just camping on sidewalks they're just like they do here at the underpass medians and so it's just weird legal situation yeah this really started will they were they lifted the camp to know camping that lifted it so it was not a problem then they said but wouldn't let anyone camp and it went nuts and all the sudden downtown was just filled with people lay in camping everywhere then they went this is not going to work mayor Adler and city council so okay well Banette in the just in downtown which is pretty much with mayor lives you know the W Hotel that you can't no camping City Hall but we have a university town so you got UT and it's just this is whole half of a semicircle of camping and just met him right on the on the outskirts of the campus and your kids are afraid of getting harassed and I think Giuliani likes room in the East River or something but and now they're back in New York like this is not a not a good thing how do you fix that those people are worried about the cruelty in fixing a there you go you know that's the problem it's like you it's to be cruel to stop that no know how do you stop and soliciting is homeless right or because not necessarily something that they didn't choose a lot of people choose a vagrant Lifestyles tons with particular in warmer climates like here and I do a lot for the homeless problem in Austin as much as I can and none of it is sanctioned by the city they're f****** morons new affordable-housing is catastrophic loss of that's the number one reason someone dies and then it just it's downhill from there and before you know it you're out on the streets very difficult to rebound and so people need Community everybody needs Community where do they find the community under the bridge that's where the communities and the community is transactional it's drugs me out at whatever you that's a community is not a healthy one but it's a community there's actually a great project awesome called mobile loaves & fishes Community First Village Star by this guy was in construction and he just put down a whole bunch of tiny homes and people who are if your homeless you can go there and you can live in a tiny home but you rent it and there are some no some prerequisites but you don't have to be drug free because you're home so you can do whatever you want in your home but it's like $200 or $250 a month most people if they do the paperwork I can get the Social Security or disability which will cover that they still have to either work there in the community garden to feed themselves at different like I auto detailing at all this different stuff but there's no police saying it's not near as 500 people there now and it's working out fantastically can't get money to that because you're f****** god nuts or whatever it is but it's really working extremely well that's great when someone comes up with something you know I don't look at this Alan Graham is the saying what what he did and he lives there he lives in a small in a small home on Primacy and if you go there he'll be happy to show you around and all kinds of cool stuff at but it's just people are living together he says so if Joe walks out in the morning not Yu-Gi-Oh but the other he's got his his his dick hanging out and instead of the neighbors calling the cops the neighbors Hey Joe what's going on man will sit down for second step of coffee let's see what's going on 30 pants up your local city council your Mayors always a lot of people with mental illness who have houses so you know it's definitely mental illness and drug addiction but it really starts with catastrophic loss of family that's the number one reason people become unhoused out here it's the shift was Jimmy would you say about four or five years ago it really started kicking in somewhere around then yeah somewhere around four or five years ago you start noticing like Villages of tents under under passes and then at least you Fear Factor in Downtown LA like right down the street from Skid Row which is an extraordinary place if you've never seen skid-row and you drive by and go what this is real like this is downtown Los Angeles and you You're Beautiful by the way Kid Rock which is just you can't believe the Staggering numbers of people that are just camped out Stadium to see a game Adam Carolla said we got to do something about whatever you're doing and that's part of cancel culture people are afraid you know you could cancel culture was real if you have something to lose like you got nothing to lose I have nothing to lose they did your on your bulletproof do degree I'm bulletproof cancel all you want you taken away for me to do advertisers I don't have them stop listening

computer was the Sinclair zx80 Sinclair ZX and I build my own modem which was I think basically you could like 9:05 bald I guess to put the two pieces in boxes and then put another handset on top 14 4-way before and then my dad always had computers around the house and I was online on a very early in their amazing look at that thing so I was hacking with that stuff and then you're the Commodore 64 so when this first started happening and you started the internet it was AOL I got a I picked up an apple home computer from one of them office stores whatever the chain was I don't think they're around anymore like so it was actually CompUSA AOL and then I remember going to the first thing I did was go and try to find UFO files that's always trying to fight like what are the government's files on UFOs I want to read whatever the f*** you can read I want to know I want to know what they know I was downloading all this s*** from these like crude AOL boards and likely is online searches we could online search things he needs Archie get all the paperwork Veronica there different types of servers remember go for it to get into gopher gopher I do remember you check this out Jamie. Jamie gopher was basically the World Wide Web only was no web and so you could log on to a terminal and you could use a menu system so basic with the arrow keys but if you go to the right you might be connecting to a different computer to different University I eat a different server and then you can have a tattoo as they say all these information documents linking to each other and I started one piece of mtv.com like I went to him and said hey I don't want to do this thing on the internet and I wear a lot of our audiences and I want to register mtv.com yeah that's cool don't worry about it we have the AOL keyword so you go ahead and do a little in it that thing their son do whatever you want I got an email from the University of Michigan or that the Gophers is at their symbol Michigan thank you and they said dude you're using this commercial you have to pay us $5,000 for a license and like just for the server software which is open for free but they it was something in the license MTV and I said okay and there's a video on YouTube with me with a gopher t-shirt on MTV and then we like all mankind Urbana Illinois and those Marc Andreessen. He went on to create the biggest VC in Silicon Valley and when I saw that picture took an hour to download p*** video look at that I was like what the number what it was girl giving guy b****** it only lasted like 15 South was there ever a moment when was the moment I should say Obviously now today we all realize it's out of our control and it's a wild very strange thing that's taking over alive and then I want to talk about neural link to know something about that about Elon musk's invention neuralink I know a little bit about it but when you were we when you saw it kind of getting away like when was the moment where you were like this is a very strange thing it's never the people before I had the online part figured out because I ran a bulletin board you might remember those you could call in and maybe like five lines and you go in and do your business and then get out and who years that this is got to be early 80s maybe even late 70 so there's time for Innovation that right is big long strap things don't get any better well the speed got marginally better people got more online step the computers are able to do more than over there also some other things happening we had Windows Windows 95 came into play so now people were wearing a different world of computing used to be. And people have him wordperfect and and then all of a sudden we have an interface on top of it and we didn't have that the show that started to teach people how to deal with the environment so that was all there but the self would be 1987 and I login to get on the unit you had to log into a dial-up account launch a PPP session or slip and then had lunch the software on your computer and then you could open a terminal and you could type things like telnet and then a domain name or Indian IP address it could connect to someone else's thing and kind of look around was just all text-based but that for me was like holy ship you can connect from one to the next I understood the hyperlinking I understood how powerful that would be and if I just had a little computer today on my desk had a Mac plus with a gigantic external 20 megabytes cuz he hard drive 20 megabytes hdpt Mosaic browser browser the web and then the third moment was Carl Jacob Facebook but at the time and he contacted me so I can see what you're doing to send you a computer and sent me a Sun Voyager which is like a portable a luggable with an LCD color screen is UNIX which is even crazier and so he started show me stuff and he actually stream the song from his work station in San Francisco to my computer in Montclair New Jersey and I played I had him on the phone here I heard him start it and then it came through and it played on my on my computer I've never seen this before or heard it was like broadcast we can use this to broadcast since that moment I think that's the mission I've been on and look at Mama I have a ride here we are that's an amazing story man that's cool as f*** I love hearing it from someone was there from the very first steps and your we used to have the yellow page of the internet Yellow Pages which was a book I still have it it was published was published right that's it fell apart that's what happened with newspapers he was with the newspapers f***** up with the news when the internet came around and there were I saw it other people saw Craig Newmark saw it and it's classifieds because they were all hoity-toity about their advertising model but they're really making money off the classified ads everybody knows it everybody knew it and that's what Craigslist who you try to sell it to Tribune Tribune or Hurst for just a couple million bucks and it's like now we're not interested we don't need it not invented here whatever and so he ate up there their they're classified business overnight and they were left holding the bag saying but we have cool news to advertise on well-known and I will put some in there but not always about the classified that's where the money came from the more I can tell the story of the story about how they passed on it and he's very well the classified ads do they even have them newspaper Obits dead people is that still a good business the Obits dead people is that still a good business to have some but no not really how often do you hold a physical newspaper in your hand to read it whenever I whenever I'm at the airport I always buy the newspapers

I didn't want I did not like that at all like claustrophobic no no I just was so I couldn't I couldn't get into any kind of zone or why but just kept like I'm laying here in lukewarm water I'm like I'm not hearing anything and it's like no it's getting a little cold or warm sweet Zone but when you can get there it's really all about whether or not you know how to concentrate on breathing if you can just concentrate on breathing. Breathwork the ends very interesting it's not against anything and distract myself cuz I'm floating you know when you drift into the wall sometimes so I wait until the ripples died down and climb and there's going to be like a little bit of George Ranch and when you lay down once the water gets still then I let my hands go and then I just think about breathing and I thought I am not a wizard at this right eye goes in and out I think about I forgot to call that guy got to send an email and then if I just stay vigilant and make sure I was okay when I get back on the road and the road is thinking only of the breathing only of the in and out in and out I just visualized are coming in and out of my lungs and just died alone while line the tank and put me in a trance and it takes a while but I can do it quicker because I've done it for years because the tanks in normal thing I get in at the most I always think his I should do this more often that's what I usually think but I can get in the trance but just thinking about the breathing what line the tank of put me in a trance but I can do it quicker because I've done it for years because the tanks and normal thing I get into the most I always think his I should do this more often that's what I usually think but I can get in the trance but just thinking about the breathing

if he was the king or the president of MMA I would eat what would he do about the steroid situation with basically means that weed from a piss test I think I think I used to do it when he was clean finishing a deal with anybody ever approached you and said hey man I think we can we can get you on some see all yeah they say it I can afford it though because they were going through like a doctor and I just remember Dr I don't think you still in business and your insurance will cover to get paid cash

all of them it is testing nobody's testing if you are a young guy and you're indulging in various ways to enhance your physical recovery and then you get off of that stuff you're going to have an adaptation. And that out adaptation. I mean that this is an issue can you get off of it was a young guy if he's on it we're assuming we don't. Gordon yeah I don't know speaking completely honestly we know for a fact that some competitors are indulging I don't know that I would say yes when you do have that situation where someone is on something and then you get off of something then have this adaptation. Where there were there body's not producing testosterone as much anymore they going to have to get on something else in order to kick start it back up we can do that I can do that but here's the thing to do you know what this Jon Jones thing in the Pico cramping and smell with Vada right and they still on the fight will now let's say you are a Jew to guy comes the UFC and you did do stuff prior Andres Pico picograms get flagged entirely on what you're doing well no good with you. It does not it depends entirely on what you're doing no joke names of whether or not you get punished twice for the same crime so if they can prove exactly the same way they proved with John if it was things happening is that the testing is getting far better so they can test you for stuff now that a year ago is absolutely impossible for sure so the threshold right now that day or said his was confusing to me the threshold that they tested John was supposed to be more then vodka yes and then the deny the fight this is where it gets weird me the night of the fight to commission testing them all the same. Cuz I'm pissed commission USANA & Final Tustin St piss you sodded didn't report anything commissioner before anything right in about you claim to fight but then bada did with you Sade up in the rulebook no matter if it's Pecos whatever is if you get flagged it doesn't matter if it's from residue whatever is you cannot compete until that is out of your body that's the rule book black and white it don't say well speak still good doesn't matter we cannot Grant you the license to compete in which is why they don't suspect that's why I honestly think why they're doing this because they don't know exactly how this is happening I think they have been there series which you know it works right now but ultimate they don't really know what's going on so if they were to suspend John and he's really not taking Chase to the f*** out of them so I think double jeopardy stuff in the system is no indication that he has recently taken it which is not the same drawing Powers John what happens if someone takes say you take creatine the creatines tainted and you have some forbidden substance in your system and it supposed to only play in your system for 6 months if it's the certain stuff but now the testing gets better and so now instead of punishing you for something that you accidentally took and then they test you and they say off we can prove you accidentally took it so when we going to give you a six-month suspension bit after 6 months is over they can still tested in you why because it's got better what do they do now because in the past they would have said it's time served for the you want you don't want to punish a guy for something you've already punished him for if you proven that it's this is what he took with it but that the rulebook is it so you can only compete when you pass the tab you read this will guess yes discussions about this was he think he should be allowed to compete because getting a license to fight that is the rule that's explain the most all the fighters that the real problem would be is what if it's proven at some point I meant to say a big Thrift what if rather than one time that they can tell if you've ever taken anything ever your whole life and they just disqualify anyone forever even if it's an actual shift test you started testing their parameters are based off of Olympic that's right they stop suspending guys 2 to 4 years you know f***** up that is to do a fighter like Josh Barnett that house Smalls your windows not we're not the Olympics don't come every four years it's such a small one or two to four years baby got a guy who's hired some Victor Conte type individual back when Victor was doing this with the other clear any higher some guy in this guy get some on some s*** that no one knows what it is and he's just running through people and he's looking like yoel Romero on smashing people but he's rebuilding it and everybody's like I don't buy it something's wrong and then one day you catch him ever again how many people are cheating right and what should the punishment be should be based on how many people are cheating or should be based on the philosophy we're trying to get cheating out of the sport I don't know whoever can get it out as you do you wish that the Japanese were super crazy strict about steroids back before Pride point for letting a guy like him take something so he can recover you know cuz he's 40 years old he still enjoys fighting but his body doesn't produce testosterone the right way anymore testosterone use exemption VTOL jet

yeah I wish you really did say that that m*********** line oh yeah come on when that s*** would be hilarious if you did that as president what would everybody do your not allowed to do that do not do not cuss that's kind of like but I think that like when he's a little rocket man that was hilarious so funny fat like I tried so hard to be his friend and maybe someday that will happen to the consequences if you f****** with him not even close he is the f****** Grand Champion off of being entertaining for as long as he doesn't blow us up and he gets out without getting a box like it's highly possible that doesn't make it out of this one alive but if he does through the whole thing I think is going to be good Jack on will go man that's crazy it took that thing for us to talk about a lot of things like the me-too movement would have never happened if Hillary got an office for sure I don't think so man like Harvey and everyone our business have been so gleeful of this Hillary thing I think I would have still been like we'll cover it up like we've been doing yeah dude because Weinstein supported Hillary's Camp that's what I'm saying that is all part of the same with Obama die-hard liberals that are like Fear Factor when you said no way I care that's you that's who loses I don't know man I care so little that I probably would lose not to Goodwin I probably would barely like 10 minutes Joe I wish you came on your fired I would have McDonald's with you I don't need that shirt tied you eat fried chicken with a fork and a knife he's a he's a comic act like that he is a cartoon that's for sure heart Gallery see my never Trump exhibit at that was burned To The Ground by Mexicans how ironic I just think I think he's going to win again I just do I think unless the Democrats can pull something together in the next year-and-a-half two years of someone that actually is like a formidable component Superman it's entirely possible that he's got one round in the chamber for like right around six to eight weeks out totally for the election one thing where he like let something happen or s*** goes down and he has the perfect solution to put out that fire is going to go yeah sometimes people die and is this a where you do what is this present address of what he say will the space force with the Navy and a space for us he has a bunch of buddies that make spaceships so what he's going to do it so they make it I'm going to be on board yeah spacewar like overhead like we're in the sky about when we look at a nice guy and you see like a rocket ships flying back and forth was showing them something that they could do it wasn't really being talked about it makes so many people nervous and other countries like this like just having talking about a space War just it's just talking to so flippant letting a lot of a lot of other countries like him I think they're I think they're enamored by his his just complete disregard for rules I think people love that he just doesn't give a shitt you think so I think our friendly countries like England I'm sure that he's a nuisance you know about us or like that guy's hilarious a weirdo spacewar they're in the f****** hallway they're pushing each other right no one wants to keep hitting one or two books out of each other's hands and it's always right there and finally someone takes to hit it could easily happen with some little Banana Republic some crazy dictator in Venezuela could send a missile at some other dude f*** hopping like a little b**** that we're doing now and then we back this coming then the Russians back the other guys and next thing you know it'll Jed's a millionaire we're in a f****** War which were so weird about war it's like we accept the fact that war exists but only when it's not near us it's like you know like North Dakota are you somewhere where I'm not near some weird spot. weird spot in the Middle With You can have that area right here

documentary in Thailand the organization that I work for in the Netherlands broadcast company is it available online Beachwood on YouTube Veronica goes Asia and so is Thailand me the number things we went into a brothel in with the girls have all the numbers we film they're going to the long neck's never would have all the rings on the long necks and 1/2 hours and then a 4 and 1/2 hour 5 ourbus drive-thru beside Cruz right so we're 10 people producers and every and it's got to be around here and it's like a big sign almost in neon long necks this way I'm like f****** tours trap it really is you know but then we went up to the hill tribe I'm sure that they've done it before you head cruise over but it's only winning cuz all the men are in the Opium hot and just completely Stone smoking opium the women run the whole deal and and they they chew the beetle not route with with a white paste and some kind of cocoa paste intercourse for the documentary I tried that in their mouths are all read your teeth get completely read from the Betelnut oh my God and OSHA light version of it and I guess so just you felt this like to clear a lot of different drugs I'm not rude what's what's in that jazz Jamie could find out you got to see the women that you got you got to see that you got to see their ride there red what it mean open and Bleed it into a glass of alcohol and it's supposed to be very potent makeshift bring in the middle of the Jungle and all these people in the music magical you would enjoy it I think a lot of twisty and kinky stuff and I look at myself dancing I'm like oh my God this has to stop this video has to be eliminated I am actually that guy I'm so bad at least learn to dance improper dances together cuz then I can keep my posture up my frame right oh my God this has to stop this video has to be eliminated I am actually that guy I'm so bad at least learn to dance and proper dances together cuz then I can keep my posture out my frame right

is this allowed to go for t-shirts then just life back then that means you have that yourself just with a Jimmy of course but it is all still a part of me that MTB. Is so definitively closed because it's just not that will never come back when it was a magical time was fun and to this day it can be in the oddest places is usually a guy in a suit and tie people dropping a bottle I catch it on the way down that's my superpower you get to rest and you get a superpower that's my catching snow usually a guy in a suit and tie and also has like and then you know once once bet started getting the INTP had to buy bet because they were getting World premiers from Michael Jackson so that was the whole thing there the real world real world TV ratings during the day or 0.5 basically I was always proud that I was sometimes break one but had interesting shows that people like to watch like dial MTV that was the precursor to Total request live Carson Daly show I did that and you know that was just a top 10 of the day but people had the idea that they were making a difference in the in the chart which they weren't because we're number one can you number one requested every single day New Kids on the Block it was the biggest problem in MTV just sometimes it just didn't make it on or we're not playing anything under number 5 today New Kids on the Block or 6G it's so hard on Twitter they had to stop him from being number one they have today number one by Taylor Swift or Beyonce someone would be how to stop him from being number one they have today number one Taylor Swift or Beyonce someone would be

at least you guys will have bears that that's when it really is a pain in the ass people. IO Dee's now though I'll bet you do a couple of those walking through the yard and I have no pets so indoor you're opening it up and you're not thinking s*** very free the cats can't even go outside I had a castle in the in Belgium we had and two horses there and it was one of the first internet marketing and advertising companies and was big with 400 people Republican back then was like this is before the hold the real.com crazy so we raised 20 million dollars like holy s*** we couldn't believe it which is nothing these days and after all the lawyers and they wanted taken their money there was fifteen million laughed until we start to build a business and what we talkin about I learned what the dilution means but I invested $50,000 and some company and then in 2004 mm move to answer to move back to the Netherlands and the bank called me said you sitting down as a yeah what's up you know that company invested in well it went public was ask Jeeves and 65 million dollars on paper paper Joe lockup you couldn't sell any of it and you all this stuff so I can get some out but yeah basically wrote it down to wallpaper regulation so you won't be left holding the bag so I can all the ship goes down in value does a lock-up typically 6 months or 12 months or 18 months and threw some back ended way on what the hell is going on a banker's do it with Swap and stuff and promises and derivatives they were able to get some money out for me that I spent on helicopters I have the company in San Francisco this is a different company and podcast company and I was going I was living in London at the times I've lived there for five years damn your international travel I don't have live in a couple places and was going back and forth San Francisco London and there was a breakup between me and my wife and we got divorced and so I stayed in San Francisco and then moved to California to Los Angeles for about a year I always want to live in LA with the hills over by Highland and it just didn't work for me and I was doing basic the podcast and that's how it's me I'm like 12 13 years ago and I don't know it's just that area but had nowhere else to go and if I wanted to go somewhere I'm just sitting in traffic all day if I want to go to the beach know I was with a woman at the time was an actress actress man that I was warned about so she wanted to be in that general area that just wasn't working for me and then I did it tour from Virginia down to Florida to the Gulf Coast for the show with an RV doing the show from the RV meeting people doing meetups and it was it was just around the time when the you had that the BP oil spill in the Gulf that's what people really message was not a good vibe and I was going to go straight up to Chicago and a buddy of mine Greg Lawley who was one of the true last Independent Record promoters who I've known from San Francisco and I knew from Chicago back from the radio days and he said Adam come to Austin you'll love it comes to come stay at my place he says well I thought to myself Greg is flamboyantly gay single dad adopted a kid from Ukraine and if he's in Texas and he still alive it can't be that bad and there were 3033 people at the meet-up and happy and proud of their city and proud of their state and they loved it was just it was so much good energy particular after just came from the Gulf and one young woman her purse fell on the ground and out rolled a fresh pair of Underpants and and a handgun unlike Texas and they loved it was just so much good energy particular after just came from the Gulf and one young woman her purse fell on the ground and out rolled a fresh pair of Underpants and and a handgun unlike Texas

any further we should give you credit you're the reason why all this started you are the original podfather soda legitimate one like if there's a lot of people claiming that you're the guy who made the very first podcast you even keep up with the name of it right I didn't come up with the name of podcasting was invented in 2004 anyone was podcasting before there was an iPod interesting late I was living in Amsterdam at the time and working with Dave Winer Who had who really invented blogging and he hadn't created this RSS syndication format and he had software you could block and then an aggregator kind of like no Google Reader at the time that you can read blogs and it was kind of like a two-way communication thing was interesting and lot of people starting to use it in Amsterdam they had cable modems ruled out everywhere and cable modems was sold the time as always on internet it wasn't fast it was just f****** on you didn't dial in which was oh my God this is great this was a huge Improvement and have to kick someone off the phone line all of that so the the experience of multimedia was s*** like you want to hear a song or play a video is like click wait wait wait download-wake-me-up it would probably download an open up some kind of player than it was not an experience there's nothing nothing there that made sense so and I always want to broadcast on the unit that's always been my thing from the moment I saw it so I came up with this concept of the last yard so what if you had a little thing running on your computer in the background that would know if there's something you wanted let's just forget the Howard nose part it would download it and would tell you that there was something new when it already had it on its local hard drive so you remove the whole wait experience cuz you don't know you don't know that this computer's been downloading something you it just tells you how it's here it's not abnormal in Media or the 6 News most of its produced before the actual broadcast so I took this idea to Dave and I said we need to come up with something that can download a media file that I program somehow like this is going to show up and then it download it and only tells me when it's there and I can click on it plays immediately and it took some convincing he didn't exactly understand what I was saying he probably thought that's f****** MTV guy gets f*** out of here that's exactly what you thought and what I wanted to do in his own software and he said okay I'm going to do this but only on the condition never ever ever f****** use my software again because that was horrible what you just did and so we created the enclosure element in RSS and so for two years we were doing back and forth like movie files stop and don't click and would open up in the experience was good until I saw my first iPod friend of mine to look at this and like the white one with the big, it was a good one right there for awhile like hard drive and I looked at him went this is not a solid state receiver programming and so I said about again with my fantastic programming skills skills to make a little application and the dye pot at the time you still had to sync it to iTunes is how you got music onto it back in the day and so you could put a an MP3 file into a blogpost basically but it was a special attachment really and so this program would just be looking all the time it's just something new something new something new download it then QuikTrip it so that it's synchronized to the iPod and it works now not being a programmer actually Kevin marks the guy was working at Apple same to you a version of the script that actually work that was helpful and I set about creating a radio show but we didn't have a name podcast yet and I wanted to be able to talk to developer software developers who could create receiver Sony we had by Potter I Potter should I Potter lemon all the all these different applications which kind of did the same thing and because I was talking to developers I called it the daily source code so I did every day and source code is kind of what the developers working and I was really talking to them like the guys over in New Zealand 8 and they've created this version of the iPhone is really working well and we discovered all kinds of crazy s*** like you subscribe to a feed because we don't have thought it through try and download know everything you had feed all at once so try to download 50 episodes and we still had kind of always on internet help with everything with Crunch and die and this just kept building and building other people started doing these and we called and soliloquies and little bundles of joy and all kinds of really dumb names and the Denny Gregoire guy who was just listening to podcast and the name stock Ben hammersley from the Guardian years earlier had actually use the term podcast somewhere in article which has no podcasting at the time but he envisioned that and then called it podcast so really fast before I knew what the BBC was calling in the interviews here and then I'm like holy s*** something blowing up here and it wasn't until that that's a big moment was I got a call from Steve Jobs and he says I can watch it with Eddy cue big-man-on-campus there now so can you meet with Steven like an hour and it was and I had a lot of interesting that he busy dude my my best meeting to date had been Quincy Jones where I got drunk with him for an hour on live radio show that was Steve Jobs really heard before two of us is Maddie's f****** pissed off and is yelling about the f*****-up Wi-Fi and I learned later that his his plan always for the iPhone was to not be a cell phone but to use Wi-Fi networks around the world and it really wouldn't be that scene was for that was his his vision and actually I thought to myself probably come down just to make sure and then he was talking about Eddy cue says yeah you know the Raa called and they got a problem with the with our able to record sounds on the macneill breaking any kind of encryption and I said important because in order to record stuff we using like audio hijack Pro and all these different kinds of tools and I said Mom and I hope hope they don't do that because it's kind of important for production to see you f*** it down to f*** themselves this is tools are guys need on him and then he said I'd like to put podcasting an iTunes are you okay with that I like are you kidding me yes I'll give you my director that built the directory of pothead I'll give you that the started off absolutely and then I was kind of funny so then maybe what year was this 2004 2004-2005 time frame and then they can find if you want it's a pretty funny video so he announces this on stage playing my my podcast where I just rail on the Mac it's if they're really legitimizes me in the world of podcasting thank you Steve I really appreciate it. You got to check this out this is hilarious free radio invented podcasting and now he has a podcast called The Daily Source let me go ahead and subscribe to that and now we can go listen to his latest one and just click on it do with 500k do you know exactly what he was doing bro I'm telling you he went on to raise lot of money from those companies to build my podcast Network what was the first what year was your first podcast the first one you released also that was 2003 I guess what was going on before you was there anything was there any other people did putting a video and audio if you remember that low-grade streaming stuff and with this really made it did two things I mean it's all the problem for downloading that was the first and now that's no longer an issue of course so it but it did put the subscription model in the place and because neither I or de why nor have ever patented any of this it's completely free and open so no one owns it and that was that was the mission I'm very proud of that that's beautiful because otherwise if someone Spotify is now trying to buy podcasting by buying up all these networks and they'll make it exclusive and Grant trying to switch from a music company to an audio company but ultimately look at all the applications that are out there that are really good people love them the Apple podcast app I use overcast I like that a lot there's any of tons of different ones and it's all because it's an open standard that no one can control in Silicon Valley loves control in a Walled Garden locked into Apple stuff know then you have they didn't have many different ways they could do stuff or they could help but I don't know why I don't know why they're not I think it's I think they thought for the longest time that I was just this thing that people did that was no big deal and then it's become so enormous but they still have this Mount this model of their operating under that it's just they're just aggravating could be I mean what was interesting is when they started off they immediately start to highlight NPR programming which I'm not I'm grateful for WGBH in Boston did a lot with the putting their first programs make nose available as podcast but kind of the the beauty of the amateurism of podcast and got pushed down a little bit and it was all BBC and PR CVS a little too much for me the Radiolab Isle of Radiolab but I know what you're saying it's very produced it's right like people answer questions for the ghazt instead you look hot in it so what he said was this why you just let him say it

it's just nuts how much money is involved in in and how many people look away and people are trying to stop different flavored tobacco smoke I see you're a vapor will that that I actually look into that very very deeply and now this was that the tobacco industry had a problem the problem was this I kicked the cigarettes with this cuz it's just me or not things happen the lung issues and I don't know who you know personally but there was a surge don't know anybody personally there was a scare in the scare killed a couple of people like 10 people and would have turned out was that was people who would Vaped THC cartridges and some putting him the people who put the you buy your THC cartridge from a dispensary here it's actually package by somebody else not by that person so you have new king World whatever it is different here that's kind of a reputable brand but it's somewhere else that means putting it in your putting the stuff in and they put in some vitamin E acetate and that just have like created a Whitney of heat that up and became a web of some s*** inside your lung and f***** you up so that's an odd thing but that nothing to do with vaping nicotine with with the typical chemicals do you get from reputable companies The Vaping from marijuana with their processes more problematic than vaping of tobacco well he was in that case let someone change the formula then you need to have some some oil in there and work keep it near liquid in Fort just for it to be able to go into the Vape and not the issue was actually the vitamin E oil so that's top of course somewhere someone did something shity and that happened really high guy actually said this to me once he told me that he uses organic MCT oil for his you vape I don't even know you you could be a crazy person you can be a DMT Vape DMT Vape now you might be going into orbit for 20 minutes not quite the same as death by helicopter controlling the rotations of a bolts very delicate like literally the amount of effort you put if you like you if you watch a good player the amount of effort they put really accurately depicts how many Revolutions of the cutest Georgia and after its colliding with the object ball and you get more sensitive that when you're high is another one a lot of people do Jiu Jitsu it's really, most perfect Landing ever it when I was super into it anyway so we had a real issue also comes back to the States because there's this master agreement that was put in place decades ago that tobacco companies would pay a percentage of their sales to all states to free compensation for whatever fuckedupshit people get from smoking tobacco and all the states wrote big bonds against that money and so when the income from the tobacco companies would decreasing significantly because of vaping all of a sudden the states are going especially this one what the f*** Brooke so everyone had an incentive to get rid of vaping get people back on Tobacco so they Ultra bought juul the debate that the main thing this is Hardcore this is Jewel is a prepackaged product kids were buying it like over a juul you can control how much can you put a fan put whatever you wanted and not just limited by what juul wants to sell you and went back to the cuz you like the story okay so so tobacco States everyone's keyed-up they buy juul for 18 billion dollars they buy it as a write-off they want to get this company out of the market then they go to the FDA and they start all this s*** about flavors flavors flavors flavors you start everywhere it was it was a perfect storm 10 people dying from vaping something completely unrelated but vaping Theory cigarette he died it was actually now you babe but you vape too bad teeth THC cartridge and now got a severe problem so you know how the media plays that and it just kept like what we have to stop the children in the way you stop it is by taking away the flavors cuz children they want flavors that's what the problem is so that's f***** Jewel over and then actually Altria Philip Morris Bass pesos the biggest tobacco company they start they already wrote down half of it but I just taken L on it they want to get rid of it because in the wings they had their Computing products which is iqos I quit ordinary smoking small icapital qos and he eats tobacco so it's a it looks like a vape pen and has but it's actually runs on Tobacco and it doesn't burn it it Heats it up has whatever some kind of mechanism in the filter you inhale and is almost there dream which is the smokeless very close to it but most importantly it's not a nicotine synthetic nicotine it is tobacco product which is their business and they got they really ratchet this up so high that they got Trump involved and Trump actually with Melania is that they did a thing with Alex Azar the Health and Human Services secretary he said well we have a kid actually was one of those moments were I'm about to jump on Trump he said Melania has a kid forgot to say was his whatever it was and now she overheard saying I wish I'd never gotten involved in that f****** thing because he figured out he's figured out was a huge scam the bill has been stopped but now they're still trying to push through a bill that will help the tobacco companies even more by outlawing any type of flavored e-cigarettes or juice liquid or they just want to get rid of it so it's really like who killed the electric car wait exactly that they just go look at it out iqos they launching this news stories today to say oh my God it's the Saving Grace we have the new product we've all been waiting for that right at the moment that vaping is going to kill you it's hooking children because of flavors so do you think they're they're hiring people to write news stories and the News organizations are picking you up because they're being told to do this release to do press on it so easy to medium oh by the way we're all three so we're going to buy five hundred million dollars worth of advertising over the next five years would you please run our story or do you might want to look at this, tobacco so do you think that they make a deal before they accept a press release to do advertising or do they wait a little bit television subject and it would be a good subject a lot of people paying attention to it it would get a lot of ratings if you have a lot of stories about over-medication of children what is going on to be something you would be interested in and yet they don't do it because the advertising found these days because I'm sure that I'm being blanketed with so many ads that eventually I'm going to get Propecia eventually I'm going to get high blood pressure I'm getting my dick's not going to work cuz that's what you're telling you every every commercial block now Land Two Half Men and what's the other one Doug and Carrie I don't watch those are one of two countries in the world that allows advertised as far as Australia is the other either one but for whatever reason sorry either one cup call out the wrong one of those thinking but that for whatever reason that everybody else is like what are you crazy and once we got it in there it's like 1 something becomes something that everybody does we are crazy it's really difficult to fix

live right now please let everybody know we're talking about Cheech & Chong's album Big Bad bows Ashley key with a real rolling paper magic you just across that thing was across the double the double album you have a flip phone I wanted to be a little more connected to life outside so call people could well this is so this is actually a new flip phone from T-Mobile Alcatel and it has kaios which is so it's not really a trackable OS although Google put in and the further I got into it the more I liked it ain't no really need it now I have a device with me that's off this works as a hotspot so I can turn into a hotspot if I really really really needed to do something but what you need right asked phone call right and if there's something that I really need to look up you just turn around and say hey I really am serious about it well you should be should be at all this great technology but the business model f***** us all I mean 6 years ago at the first Amazon Echo and like this is groundbreaking Dvorak might my co-host he was laughing at me like why would you bring a spy device into your house that look I'm just testing this out if an Apple logo on everyone be losing their s*** right now but it didn't and I loved it hook it up to the light and all that stuff going and then as I started to understand what it was really doing and what's really communicating all these things by down to like your Roku remote you pick that up it's communicating with home base to all the steps I got rid of all of it and was something valuable the right we didn't realize it was a commodity and it's being sold not just a commodity that's kind of a lie but insanely extremely that's why we're Facebook makes all their money that's where Google make all their money everybody yeah everybody get from your data and you never really understood what you were doing when you signed off to give that data way up when you sign the terms of agreement so you like yeah yeah yeah whatever plaid for five billion dollars and it's the the financial back-end kind of like a bridge between all these apps that can do stuff with your bank account and your bank account so instead of so if you have an app like venmo or name any payment patch app I didn't want to disparage anyone who might be advertised but what you do is you sign up and you literally give this app your username and login to your bank account instead of an API or some kind of programming interface just lets the app talk to your bank account and put money in take it out he can do anything if in fact it is just like scream screen scraping it's going to can go through anything that's connected to your bank account it can look at and they do and and Credit Karma another great a great example of it and they are just sucking out all of your information you pay your bills will you pay first White you know if if you have know what your pattern is of of credit card payment moving stuff around so you think you're just using it as a as a utility but they're tracking your f****** life really concerned about this edible right that this connection that we have to technology gets deeper and deeper into our lives but what what disturbs me is that they're these giant corporations or notches profiting off of our connection but then they're using that money that influence to affect a lot of things in our culture will they just leaving you a credit karma is a great example which also just sold for 7 billion dollars it was literally changing your behavior to get a higher credit score and this credit score believe in official credit score someone that they kind of made up so they'll say pay your utilities on time then we'll raise your credit score your credit score is higher now we can lend you this money is he so they're training people to do certain things like the progressive app for insurance it's training you to drive in a quote-unquote responsible manner because you get discounts if you don't break too hard if you're not accelerating if you're not breaking speed limit to tetra so who knows your speed and everything is monitoring everything you're breaking velocity all of that they take that into consideration every month when the whole point is to train the user to be a good fiscally good person you never that. It's just because you want to save some money well course everyone does that mean you're going to be forced into it like I just got health insurance new health insurance and they're both download the app and if you download the app brake why because they're going to tell me to do things is Apple saying now it's small things but it'll start telling you to stand up and move around and if and if you'd follow it if you follow it then you'll get a discount so we're really really becoming and slave that way that's that is definitely way to look at it that makes sense I mean that they would be the best way to figure out if you're actually a good driver over just some dick it'll get so lucky. Well yeah I mean that's kind of the marketing is a good guy don't worry about it but they keep pushing the keep pushing and you don't have to have the app active for that to be tracked and monitored that was one of the grossest arguments are heard after the whole Snowden thing like what do you care if you're not breaking the law that's changing a little bit daughter and she definitely had that that mindset and her friends did was changing and I was like okay we totally get it there tracking all of our ships so we're going to might not use this will leave the phone at home there's a little bit of that creeping in but in general it's like crack you know how can you know it's not easy it sometimes like I could but no really mean to do this night typically now when I feel any sort of anxiety or boredom I just grabbed the phone it just instantly my little lamb a little soothing blanket or my little teething thing absolutely anything Key I play a game with myself walking on the street holding the phone in the hand one point women holy crap got two phones sometimes with little button plugs it doesn't fall off they got their bag maybe they got the kid or a stroller into Popeye finally doing on and just the all over the place all the time so it's 1.4 just holding it too if you're walking and doing something to see a lot of that how many points if you have a kid and you're walking and looking at your phone that seems like that be a bonus points if you're in the car 10 points if you're walking with the kid on the phone it's five points crazy zombies we start to really pay attention to it when you're above people have a truck and I want to look down on my truck you can see people texting and stunning how many people are on the highway texting at the same time got rear-ended with my truck say maybe two months ago in Austin stop light and turn left I wasn't in the truck and the whole front end is destroyed cheese days and like some trying to pry the door open and yep there I see the phone on the floor still open and then her excuse was on my break didn't work times 5 times a day I'm sure crazy yeah it's it's weird that that sort of snuck up on us at this thing that's incredi incredibly addictive I was with my family this past weekend in Dallas and we're at this event as we're walking through this crowd I'm like Luke how many people on their phones this now crazy like everyone it's the store and everyone is just looking at their phone just it's like a zombie movie they don't know they're zombies a zombie apocalypse truly in the weirdest why when he gives you a little bit of reward every now and then someone has a funny meme and I figured out is that the pavlovian response and the all the all the brain impulses you get from a like or retweet or whatever it is or even just That's not healthy looking Valley figured out is that the pavlovian response and the all the all the brain impulses you get from a like or a or a retweet or whatever it is or even just tell me

hearing aid cuz you took him out when you got in put the headphones on and just this is from listening to music too loud know that would you think you think you think now I have a genetic problem that I didn't know about until three years ago and so it's not and I went to the Audiology what happened I started noticing and I've been together for a couple years I start noticing I was saying excuse me wouldn't hear stuff or she would say something that I couldn't remember hearing and and I brought it up to her and I said what you think I asked you to repeat something a lot and then to the TV is very loud so really the TV is very loud so do I don't even realize that so much an audiologist and lo and behold my grandmother my dad's side was completely deaf almost from her teens I have some of this but it's been okay only as you get older everything the levels need to see like here here's a level where you can hear everything and I was already kind of there so now it's just due to age is everything goes down a bit and so I'm missing 1K and we kill her something missing different different tones an audiologist and said it's very mild but yeah this can make you repeat stuff and it will get worse over time and what actually happens to a lot of men in particular isolated from the world they don't even realize that they have a hearing problem and now the difference between having them in and taking him out it's massive just like I can hear how much less it is another clue was that I have a for my oh my podcast Radio work out of headphone but I put an extra amplifier on it you can see you can still hear it today sometimes I'm talking in Little League just a little bit cuz I have it so loud now that's not going to damage my ears but anything you put in your ears you don't you can't hear the sounds anymore and I like it are processing req is very important to me so I can hear that without the hearing aids but not with hearing aids so your grandpa's new geriatric Brown goofy looking piece of s*** that makes you look like a just a total moron victim card okay to get a probably a plate boundaries I do pine trees so these are the widex evoke these have 35 channels of compressor limiter multiple settings it's an ear so goes right into my ear I still have a little bleed through from the outside world but because usually audiologist dicks this thing in your ears makes you do all the tests and then they'll sit there and listen to cross me and they're going to program it so that you can then he abnormal sound I was just very it's a very good to get to get trained professionals very hard to fix someone who is never heard what is proper I'm a little different and I'm also waiting to sound and it's a whole rack of $3,000 it's a huge Racket and the way they do it is to manufacture you can't buy from the directly or retail can only buy it through an audiologist so they already getting half the money from the other 1500 lease and you have I have a 10 appointment with all this money that goes on top and then you come back after a couple months next week if you come back again so I said look see who I am told you what I do give me the f****** software she said I was going to give it to you I just wanted to do one session with you so you have to have this so I have any free programs like six different programs so I can do one just for music I can do one for television one for so situations and I have one that the night so I did it all myself all these 50-35 different channels of compressor limiter when I'm walking around What I Hear on my ears is like a radio show like the sound that I like when I'm talking right now I hear my own voice and it all resonate subject all that up so I've made my own sound reality of sound but I also have one I can set it to a setting in the mall I can conversation from 50 feet away is you can't have headphones cuz that that doesn't work having the hearing aids in with the headphones with the sound that you're blasting into the microphone and it really doesn't work that's crazy though that you can hear people Focus you can have an automatic so the problem is the way I set it up you can drop a pin there if I don't see it I might hear it over there now that's always going to be a problem they have to have an algorithm that will try to guess where the sound is from and tell your ears that so basically I'm not the guy you want in the battlefield ESO just doesn't work with headphones that's why I take them out it's amazing though they sound incredibly potent like oh yeah you remember me and you know what real sound sounds yes. Everything sound real to you or that very well what you automatically do because I was able to do it at different settings for different situations so if I'm at home quiet or we have some music on what happened to Tina frequency which is now kind of like 1 kilohertz and and that's where I hear her better and so that's jacked up a little bit I mean if I hear you talk I can hear it'll be a little eye candy is not exactly you so little to tinny maybe so but that's just me and that's not everyone's experience of course but to me it's the disability has become an incredible Joy because I like virtual reality on my head chat filter what cartoon is really Advanced I mean you can connect to an iPhone so you can you can stream wirelessly you can do it like you driving with directions with the maps and you can just be talking than in your ear all seems like the light turn right no one else hears it does no wires no nothing I got you wouldn't even know I had him in unless you look yeah the road to TransUnion is unripe but how can you say you're against the way you you're enjoying this thing this to me is more it's not a replacement it's an enhancement artificial carbon fiber legs you can feel but they can run Dallas light all this f****** cool just like I'm just looking at the Bleak landscape ahead of us by the way be where I just want to say something because there's a lot of they're not called hearing aids to cause hearing amplifiers they have some fuzzy legal language they're coming on the market that you put all the way in the ear the rechargeables got a whole bunch of them that much much cheaper from the audio standpoint I've done it for years that's not the way you want to go if you seriously want to know how to if you want to hear properly again so I see an audiologist is what I'm saying and has lots of different it's not all three and a half thousand dollars is more expensive but don't I just recommended this itself testing is not a good idea one of the best pool players in the world and Shane is deaf he was born deaf and when he plays he shut his hearing aids off and it just it's a world of Silence just playing a complete total silence and when he does that when he shuts his his hearing it off he feels like he's got super concentration of it doesn't matter what else is going on always doing is just focusing on the balls and there's no that that sense doesn't exist so he can he's hyper focused on other things and I noticed that sometimes when I walk with noise-cancelling headset anything give me more tuned in the deers are offline a mountain lion could be running behind you and you listen to f****** all things considered and I think about it if you can't hear the mountain line frequencies anymore and it today is mountain lion is new car engines all kinds of stuff you can't hear it's dangerous and no idea until I know we haven't new relationship no so we've been living together for a couple years and lucky wake me up we will completely open and honest like hey whatsup cool with that exist though I mean that's an elegant solution and for someone like you it's actually gives you a chance to take her which yet and I'm sure I'm sure you really enjoy that part of it and yeah that exists though I mean that's an elegant solution and for someone like you it's actually gives you a chance to take her which yet not sure I'm sure you really enjoy that part of it yeah yeah you love that small thing

yeah he's Android iPhone I have a stripped-down I called quotes that no SIM card VPN Pi hole is a lot of different parts on it that I do carries iPhone 7 if I need to just no ignore other apps on at no extra I was just just blanket use the GPS and also has an iCloud account that's not news not in my main iCloud account so right that's I'm trying to make that Adam Curry and remove my other digital footprint it over a little bit or something and he's confused wow linux-based I'm trying to think of the one that's on the Levites crowdfunded this company actually they make laptops that are completely out all Open Source Hardware should change the name of that country it's so stupid now it's the weed these companies are hooked on it so the data they have to keep getting data from us that's the system so we start to cut it down then move to the hardware they move to different different types of ways of getting data and you're right now I mean you still can't hide from cell phone triangulation near this all kinds of ways people can find you that's really the biggest problem if you can track someone's location you can build their life add a credit card to that meaning she does the company's taxes with family business and she kind of thinks used to do some kind of auditing in the past and she'll call up and say here's what I always see you do and she'll tell me exactly what I do where I go when I like to eat out cuz all these patterns for fun do you have GPS on your car 2015 allows you to completely turn off tracking when you got an iPhone 7 once again like a 69 Corvette slapping it looks like a real problem but it's still going to believe them bloop right I don't want it cuz I have control over keeping it off and not using it when I'm on the road but as a basic thing if I'm at home and I just want to serve I'm sitting down I'd rather use that absolute Apple I got to trust Apple to degree him that they're pretty good about not selling stuff they know so their Maps is wood would be what I use I trust that yeah but only as far as I can throw them and then I'm sure that the million guys going Curry have no idea how I do which is no I mean it's one of those things that it's like Mandela effect okay right like the Berenstain Bears Mandela effect but for whatever reason well that's it they okay so these guys who grew up under the don't be evil I thought it was don't do evil but that was in a was in the s-1 document and I remember reading it and I but maybe they change that halfway and wait from don't be evil to don't do the right thing or either way teal and this was a the company Inc you tell which is a venture capital company which is the cia's it's not a secret that the cia's they was a venture capital company and they invest in stock and they helped the keyhole acquisition and Keyhole is the mapping that's what they were Google Maps was the most important thing you can have it as a poor person's identity is where they are kind of grew up oppression of Russia but come from and they kind of came into the system if you look at the universities and the people involved and how they were almost given some kind of prizes for things they did and there's no alternative story to the general narrative about Google came to be so I think there was a lot of intelligence people involved in this involved in setting it up and the psychology of Larry and Sergey some psychologists have analyzed don't listen to a lot of different people is it they kind of become what they were pressure was to them and it's not really I don't think it bad guys but this is site and psychosis that happens if you grow up in some kind of stressed out situation your people who have been abused often abused others and so I think that's what's going on at the problem is I love all the technology I love with all these companies and everybody's doing the business model is f****** Humanity as it's f****** Us by giving away data and influencing people not letting us that day. Letting us share in in the revenue of the data we're having some control over it nothing Lord looks at it for what it really is like or what is data I mean what is money money is data money money is not is not Monday anymore waldeck is biting a serve it all day. It's all data relationship and it's their business model is what at it as it is now they don't change it no legislation will stop them from getting around the problem but now it's you get free s*** and we get your data you get a free browsers intercept your day the internet is although no longer quite the same way with up upstream and downstream being equal due to any of the cable companies how did implemented your personal connection we can still do our own servers it doesn't all have to be on YouTube on Facebook on Twitter No Agenda social.com is our own social network it's with open source software without algorithms and Yuri Federer age all these other servers much the way the World Wide Web grew up and and there's this mechanism for communicating with each other until it's kind of Twitter me to email only it's just it looks like Twitter just but you control a lot more of how it works and your community can be a small little community and you have no one come in you can block people are just at only want these cool people to also connector that server to connect it's all good seeing all these kind of looks like an ancestry.com tree that just always in the place is called the Federation if we build upon those kinds of things and don't let other companies companies at all there's no reason for them to get involved it's very cheap we believe or not of Linux laptop you can get started and you kids can learn how to do it they could be teaching it's cool how to setup a server how to get around some of the hurdles understand how email server work and we will not need these companies all the joy and a lot of the downside but they won't be a Twitter police still be only your own little Community say hey we don't like this guy was going to block you or your whole Community or we would love to have you guys with us and we going to happen to us similarly and that's how you build these networking eventually you connect to each other on the back and somehow anyway how often you think how long do you think it's going to be before were implementing augmented reality into our life in that way in like a social-media contacts when you're ready to do your ears yeah so would be unfair of me to say that it's it's augmented in that it's enhancing but I have enhanced it in ways that are particular to me but it's not some algorithm really determining things that I should hear and I am in total control of how that works and how it sounds I don't see the the case for augmented reality I just don't see it I mean Apple's Trinity with their glasses I think it's trying to get people from doing this to doing this is probably that's all that it is that's all that it is that it's also probably adding to the experience right if you can have like little animated fairies everywhere you go that you see through your Apple glasses everything else looks the same give to go to the Haunted Mansion ride at Disneyland yes he knows it Go sitting right next to you that you see through your Apple glasses everything else looks the same people go to the Haunted Mansion ride at Disneyland yes he knows it Go sitting right next to you if I see you in one of those glasses on head

spot-up in the belly room did you realize you cannot hear anybody you up in the belly room if it's one of those weirdo shows was where do we like them dance battle Battle 2 years ago my friend Justine Marino and the first day we were supposed to do it you actually bumped us coming out March what's it on it'll be on the E network I was hoping you didn't say Bravo well same thing play from one person the next and they date is just enough drama like how they going to resolve this but it's awesome no mind hypnosis cuz you're just watching they're like Naked and Afraid have them do something really difficult like a tire or just f****** anything hard their life is a means it's really interesting because I made it sort of a making fun of Kim Kardashian really doing something like a genuinely good so I'mma stop mocking her I don't have to but it's like she wants to be a lawyer at home just have her assistant do it and tell her what the answers are get the cliff notes banana bag of blood to bag of bloody clothes if you heard it first to learn about man of this true but I don't know I don't know I can't knock I can't I know she's doing good time like it sucks cuz I have liked videos up from like years ago and then I went to the of me just shiting on them and then I went to The People's Choice Awards amazing country western tuxedo but it was all their faces crying it was so awesome yesterday was so good he came over to me because you know they're sitting right next to you right I was like s*** she's like Mom look and then Chris is trying to turn around and she can't and then and then Chloe's there and then Courtney Courtney loved it and then they start taking pictures of me on their Instagram stories and I'm like oh my God and then I got up to go say hello. go say hi to them and that's when I security guard almost like body slam me really at the one at the bottom you'll get a full one overzealous security guards what is a strong jawline look what's going on here look at you that was a crazy person you look good though thank you it's not bad

put up content of your own you can do everything on your own I mean so many people like Tim Dillon we just got to remember but I told her to f****** calm down and now she's like well she's on her phone really yeah and I was watching The Purge so it's like in the moment she was talking on the phone and a f****** movie knows what she was on it she was like checking Instagram full brightness just know it's just sitting in the front movie hero and then as I went out someone was like that's the girl you were yelling at Paparazzi were all around and I was like oh I'm taking this to you know and then she blocked me so that I wasn't done yet I tweeted her boyfriend at the X mom who happens to be Victoria Beckham Posh Spice and was like hey your son is dating an a****** you know who didn't block me Victoria Beckham I stopped reading Twitter mentions and all that stuff a long time ago I need to get better at that s*** I'm going to do it though I'm going to read these comments because it kind of gets me hard like it's fascinating to me how to just you know Eddie it's just blows my mind you know and it's funny because sometimes they're very supportive like once once I left the show you know people are coming in and tagging me and stuff and be like we want Justin backwards Justin the shows not the same as just kind of ran its course you know I did my thing and I'm moving on but it just it's just so funny how some people are just like you know it did what's it called lights out with David Spade people are just like you know it did what's it called lights out with David Spade the other day and there was like

I'll send it to you right now but is this I sent it to send it to Kalyn cuz he's a shower both dog freaks but it it doesn't even make any sense like you look at the video and you go like what the f*** this one no that's not it but let me see this crazy that dog just jumped it looks like he jumped 18 ft in the air he did at least write 18 ft and so that it pulls him down slowly so he doesn't get hurt that's amazing for meter walls find this f****** dog also I wanted to ask you about this have you seen Mass wrestling do you know what that is mass wrestling do you know what it is type that in this is nuts Mass wrestling before I forget I wanted to tell you about it people like there's like a there's like a bar look at this a lot of weight has that's all that's all gripping leg strength than s*** it's wildish it I got it was like 50 videos of it I got so stoked into another cot why why are people doing that but that's why I wanted to see the alarms because little b**** ass legs I got my money on the guy on the right I don't like the way the guy on the right or the left rather has overdeveloped his arms and underdeveloped his legs that guy's going to quit the guy on the left did not run look at his legs like his calves that guy's not he's not fit see that's why I'm a good MMA commentator called it I know when I see a dude this is is like he's jacked you look at his upper body as forearms and s*** in his biceps in his shoulders and like the guys jacked there's no leg strength doing the real hard work nobody gives a f*** if you're doing squats you don't nobody notices okay you do push-ups you do bench press and you f****** tits pop out everybody sees it at least 15 he's at least 15 ft in the air what's even cooler that he it send it official on Instagram one all one word send it official that's one of them Instagram page that has a bunch of crazy s*** on it it's always there's a lot of those that are pretty good I follow a lot of them can sand it and it have you seen hold this beer on Twitter you ever seen that account Liberia hello this one weird dude is standing on a hill and a bale of hay is coming towards him and it's bale of hay looks like a my way 6 700 lb f***. He's going to jump over it my favorite is sleet overestimate how well there is run each other open an inside joke in MMA forums about sidestepping that if someone is coming after me I just f****** side side but I don't know what to-do list and therefore I got it planned out warm you swore Mueller has zombie bite your face fake martial arts videos those guys are my favorite cuz there's so many I can't keep putting them up they got is like a wind like with his breath is the other guy that's cool that's what we would call like cheesy shity martial arts schools mcdojo what's this guy wants this guy go to go full screen in this was once a f****** Preposterous the guy comes on with a sword and he uses his power in the guy goes flying I buy it liberal guys who probably call themselves feminists and they just fly into the air with her Aikido suits aren't he is f****** this guy up my God he's doing flips on his head breaking the boards and then flipping onto his feet so crushing for the the blocks of stone with his head was it sound like dick thick as a Taekwondo outfit on that doesn't make any sense to me that's so weird what could those be made out of the shittiest Rock known to man like if you pissed on it will probably break it can't be rock some sort of shity ass b**** ass concrete b**** ass concrete

some happy little place where if you know someone's feeding you peeled grapes that isn't what it is it's it's more like it's more like Victory on The Honorable Battlefield or something like that you have the perception that people have ultimate success and ultimate happiness is it seems motivated by what they don't have rather than an understanding of what success and happiness really is there their ideas at one day I'm going to go and I'm going to be in my golden years and I'm just going to be able to sit around and do nothing and tell everybody to you will be happy at all I talked to one of the people that I was working with a vision for retirement you'll be dead this like pathetic sunburned like fat cirrhotic dehydrated how long can you have a margarita on a beach like maybe you can do that once every 6 months for like 10 minutes something like that it's true but when you are working and slaving away think about that beach with your feet up and and the waiter comes over would you like another margarita mix to Peter Singer like this sixteen-year-old fantasy of paradise and it just doesn't work out really is the lifting of a worthwhile burden it's something like that because we're social animals right to be useful to the people around us because they're much more likely to let us live if we're like that it's been very fun talking to especially talking to young men about this is like well enough the other thing to is I think the world the world is full of Darkness let's say and we could say each of us have a little bit of light and if it we released that light if we let it shine properly Christ it's too cliche to go on with him some sense but the world is a lesser place if you do not reveal from within yourself what you have to reveal and the fact that the world is a lesser place turns out not to be trivial like if you wanted everything you could be more people will die more people will suffer more evil will be unconstrained more tyranny will rain more chaos will remain chaotic and dangerous all of that like the old proverb of the wings of a butterfly fluttering become a hurricane messed up then you are got your act together like 10% more your family would be 1% better than what the hell difference does it make what you do anyways like that is not how we're connected like you're the center of a network and well you know way more people than this but let's say typically you know without going to a thousand people in your life well enough to have an impact on them okay I need to know a thousand people is going to know what the housing people so you're one step from a million and Two Steps From a billion and we are network technically that you shouldn't do it's worse than you think and when you do something that you should do it better than you think and so you think well clean up your room so I call your room is actually Network to it's not that easy to clean up your room to set it so you want your room to be set up so that when you walk in there it tells you to be better than you generally are it's organized it's got Direction everything's in its place you try to do that in a chaotic household look clean up your room and just write down what happens as a con so maybe these are students in a chaotic household the whole place is a bloody mess noise taking responsibility for anything so they decide they're going to start to clean up the room and then the people in the household notice of the first thing to do is get pissed off so I can do you think you are like you think you're better than us like why do you think this is worthwhile Who Made Who died and made you God all of that so just by trying to organize this little part of their life they immediately run into the people whose actions their calf in a dim light by trying to improve themselves to some degree they might have to have like a throw war in their household to be allowed to do something as simple as keep a room or Julie if find out very rapidly that a that's way more difficult than it sounds and be that the consequences of it are far more far-reaching than people think that's quite fun maybe part of it is this little Rat Hole of a room in some run-down place in the world it's like fix it up there's more than you think see what happens if you fix it up and you'll fix yourself up simultaneously cuz you have to get disciplined in order to fix up the room then you have a fixed up room and you'll be a more fixed up person that's like you think that nothing will happen as a consequence of that like all hell will break loose as a consequence of that well people don't take what they have right in front of them seriously enough it's like the wasting time thing they don't do the arithmetic you know when they'd also don't understand they devalue what they have right in front of them like another another client I worked with was having a hard time putting his kid to bed at night and so we did the arithmetics like while I'm fighting with my kid for 45 minutes tonight trying to get him to go to bed okay so let's analyze that alright so what does that mean that's not so good cuz why would you want that it means that you're spending 45 minutes fighting when you could spend 20 minutes doing something positive like reading to him say means that you don't get to spend that time with your wife so she's not very happy with you plus you're annoyed because you don't see her plus you blame it on the kid because he's the proximal cause like that's pretty damn ugly and then and then let's do the arithmetic days a week 45 minutes a day let's call that 5 hours 20 hours a week 240 hours in a year you're spending a month-and-a-half of work weeks fighting with your four-year-old son think you're going to like them you don't like anyone you spend a month-and-a-half a year fighting with it's a bad idea fix it it's important get him to bed make it peaceful you do it it like these things that repeat every single day that's a motif in this book to your life isn't Margaritas on a beach in in Jamaica that happens now in that those are exceptions your life is how your wife greets you at the door you come home everyday cuz that's like 10 minutes a day your life is how you treat each other over the breakfast table cuz that's an hour and a half for an hour every single day you get those mundane things right those things you do everyday if concentrate on them and you make them pristine it's like you got 80% of your life put together these little things that are right in front of us they're not little that's the first thing they are not little and they're hard to sit right and if you set the right it has a Rippling effect and end concentrated lemon you make them pristine it's like you got 80% of your life put together these little things that are right in front of us they're not little that's the first thing they are not little and they're hard to sit right and if you set the right it has a Rippling effect and end fast to way faster than people think

boom and we're like 12 rules for life so without reading this so what you're saying is I just went to her Twitter page to read like an in with each one of her tweets no matter what she says someone right underneath it so what you're saying is and then some radhika but by the way the your fans were mocking her but politely not aggressively their yd I didn't read any rude things like it was no it was no insults or what may be a few insults but there's no swears it was just playful mocking of the interview that she did with you because the interview was ridiculous was a ridiculous interview Listen to It's ever watched it several times like this is so strange like her determination to turn into a conflict to the issues that I have with television shows they have a very limited amount of time and they're trying to make things of salacious as possible they won't have these sound bites this clickbait sound bites and she just went into it incredibly confrontational not trying to find your actual perspective but trying to force you to defend a non non realistic active yes while I was there I was the hypothetical filling of Her Imagination what was interesting to The Green Room beforehand what's going on in that well so so that kind of alerted me to while the fact that there was something rotten in the state of Denmark let's say he is going to kill TV because television by its nature all of these neural broadcast Technologies they they rely on forcing the story right because they did put the whole thing up on YouTube to their credit you haven't cease to amaze me yet I think that they thought that the interview went fine that's the scuttlebutt I've got from sort of behind-the-scenes because I you know I know some people who know what's going on at channel 4 and their shell shocked by the response you know and then of course there was the counter response the guardian the next day published a paper published an article saying that you know head of Channel 4 had to call in police security because of threats you know well first of all you can call the police in about anything and they never did detail out exactly what the threats were you know but then about 20 newspapers pick that up and went for the well Cathy Newman is now I'm being harassed by an army of online trolls for doing nothing but doing her job which well and then there was a backlash against that in the Press so it's being a well someone took an audit of the the actual interchange between fans and her and there was way more negative ones coming your way yes seriously negative Rude the way more and no one picked up on that all the narrative was she's a victim even though she was highly aggressive pain in the butt what you think you should have to hand in your victim card I think like when you go to an ivy league university like right down in their oppressor and oppressed at the same time that's just too much love one of the things you pointed out was when you were talking about competition for very lucrative jobs and you were saying look what you've done why don't you you must have had to work here and she probably was saying how hard she had to work oh yes of course not going to hand this to you know and this is why you were saying you are opposed to equality of outcome anything we could possibly strive for in our society that would make it into hell faster than equality of outcome

have you ever tried ever know why don't know why I have not tried heroin I have the writer who fentanyl fentanyl he used to be a journalist Easter right for La weekly then yes and he said they were reviewing all these Raves were people are dying from MDMA and mustard on hydrating themselves cuz that you sweat cuz those people will know what it is I'll just Rave until their heart explodes probably probably a few of those but a lot of it is overdoses on fentanyl cuz they're cutting it would be legal and he goes no wouldn't be legally goes well that's what decriminalizing this is weird conversation where they're trying to work out the legal Logistics of what's decriminalized in what's not but it sounds totally counterproductive that if you wanted to have a healthy happy Society you'd make cocaine and heroin legal right to promise if it's not legal that people going to get it anyway and they going to get it from the f****** cartels and you're going to get it it's going to be spiked I don't want anybody to do heroin I don't want anybody to Coke I don't want anybody doing it is drugs but the only way you're going to give them pure versions that drug is the make sure that it's actually from a reputable Source reputable I was like I think I was 22 and like a friend of mine at the time I guess was like Hey we're going to smoke this out of a lightbulb I'm like I don't know why the f****** bartenders are off just like 3 in the morning and let you know what sounds good I'm going to move all my furniture around was just in the morning and it was the worst feeling I've ever experienced in my life like my body just fell broken rotted yeah just corroded We Energies coming out somewhere once you do it you're addicted so you're going through withdrawals all it takes was like I am never doing this again into it and it finally it was like someone asked me there like if I was like that is you dumb f*** man I mean it was not not pleasant and you see how quickly people can become addicted to that one time once you're addicted all it takes so at the end of it you like oh my God I'm so wrecked I just need a little to get me over and the next you know you doing a little all the time

always been fasting to me is when you see like a study of the Law of Attraction works like you see something you like how your pupils dilate and how you how you kind of like pheromones and where should I got a cologne so it was called yeah you have like different like tonight is the night with the cologne a different cologne every month it's a clone club like Dollar Shave Club January through my December smells you have different sounds for different tie Milan there and they're nice have you always felt good I like people a tiny bit tiny bit 10 my month and then you know if I save them there is a cologne that I had it was called sex you while some assholes can you tell me where is the restaurant oh oh yeah hey yeah they probably took some fat guy and made him run on a treadmill and then they'd ripped his f****** underwear in each bottle o different Kreischer search on the gay term tell them she tell them that they should know they probably didn't know both bears in the gay community those are bears so they didn't get the joke they should know they technically a little buff to be a bear no just Harry fat Hur that's why I think that's why we I don't have nothing either good graduation I used to be a twink and now I'm not and now I'm not hairy what changed girlfriends or wives oh yeah it's hilarious cuz they got that yeah but then it doesn't work but if you see an 80 year old gay guy with an 18 year old boy Lego found himself a fella yeah that'll do pig the other way if you find a 2 year old lady got a 24 year old boyfriend and getting her to buy you a Corvette but you know what also the other way if you find a 2 year old lady get a 24 year old boyfriend while nobody's mad at her at the guy for like playing that old lady getting her to buy you a Corvette

you know music industry stuff I think I've been working really hard to go against the grain of like right now I'm self-released like I don't have a record company and I'm self-funded and it's really hard but it's also really gratifying at the same time because you know right now I since I left honey honey you know like honey honey kind of on ice for you sort of yeah well we were figuring it out you know well said but you know that the battle is getting head you know and and being a woman and envying in my 30s and and not like you know no one wants to hop on board until they know it's working even though I made this incredible wreck and it's so well-received and then folks are like yeah woke you know calls when it's when it's working rather than like get in now and you know I feel I don't feel discouraged by that I feel informed but that that's also a business move you know because it is we're taking art and turning it into Commerce and no one wants to bet on a horse that's not winning yet you know and you know I'm pretty I feel pretty good about what I'm doing I don't think I should be doing something else but it's still struggle you know so when I said I want to change the narrative it's it's sort of like I wanted kind of prove to myself and others that like you can do it like you find a way you know and it's it's really hard but you can do it you know when you get help from your friends like this is so cool to be here with you guys like I don't know if I could really convey that enough that this is a huge help to what I'm trying to do right now but yeah also this is the thing that keeps me up at night feeling like oh my God but at the same time you know the music industry I'll just speak to that right now it's tough was it seems to me if it's a big ship that had to like cut parts of itself off and now it's a small warship now it's like whoa it's still a pretty big ship but it's not what it used to be that the money doesn't come in anymore in the form of record sales so it's it's entrenched its tentacles deeper into the industry and other things like merchandise and live shows and all these different things to stay alive and maybe it helps yeah maybe it depends what you're doing at your point in your life we like to look this isn't f****** working like what what do I need to do like being attached to this group is not doing it being a group what's the fox doing it let me just try to not be attached to someone through the internet you have the option to put your stuff out there I know it's hard but it's all so yeah like you know I want to capture that thing I want to get into the right tune into the right radio station and also not have to worry so much about like not having enough to get by you know that kind of thing and it sounds silly but it's not like that's that is my reality what is the major function of a record label Venus early selling records so they are get to the event and set everything up and then then they would reap some of the reward so it's almost like an initial investment and then based on return from tickets at ride so it's expensive to be out on the people you know and that's the thing is like people coming to this thing, I made it I've got this this deal with it your record doesn't hit or never doesn't hit then they've invested all this money so it's kind of it puts his extra pressure on you to figure out what you need to do to make it and I think some people go down a different router with change up switch up their thing and they can be very helpful a lot of it is your attitude and what you think of like you are you being taken advantage of her sitting up and down you know depending on how to match will be hard to be free and creative and having a good time with it if you feel like you're being taken advantage of it put a dark cloud over where you think all of a sudden like you have to stop doing something and they're going to do for you that is like the biggest mistake you could ever make it in and if anything you have to work harder and prove to them that like your kind of worthy of their time and money you know sometimes it depends it depends on the company but they have a lot of your creative integrity and in some ways depending on the deal and how it shaped and you know on your copyright if they want it on your record depending on your deal sometimes you have more leverage than others and you know if that's the case like f*** yeah good for you self-release my last record ruby red and I learned a lot because I heard my own PR and distribution companies and I really got into the nuts and bolts on how all this s*** works and I'm not sure if this is change cuz sometimes this is no going back and forth but when you own your copyright the digital return on things like Spotify and iTunes are ten-to-one so when the record companies on your copyright and all of your streaming is is kicking I just f****** taking off their making tons of money on your pregnant it's like it's weird turn off but I have a feeling if you just look at the landscape that that is less and less of an issue with almost every year they have a distribution over the Internet just threw people finding out about it and sharing it tossing it around as probably as useful if not better than anything I'll find out about it podcast find out about it people on Twitter find out about it the retweet Sheffield Instagram repost off and then it hits millions and millions and millions and millions of people 100% organic happens all the time which is good it's almost like your your bank rolling on it not being a good idea if you do it with somebody else like what you're doing is like bankrolling and shelf do the label you have to so many people have to be in nothing wrong with it me I'm sure it's worked out great for both you and a numerous occasion to believe in you have to work with someone there's a lot involved not the case and you know people's jobs depend on your success and if they're scared and they go in and this in this way that it's not like it doesn't hit or something like they drop you fast and I'll speak is that is a perfect example yes imagine you are trying to keep a different stretches business goats of all time, I mean he's he was in before it was with high heels cuz it was so good I think about all the homophobe we were talking about transphobia homophobia 1888 or whatever the f*** it is when he put out their first album and it didn't matter any everybody was so good everybody just had to step the f*** back when purple rain is ridiculous movie about a singer who dress like handicap

lafc team is has been constructed by some pretty great folks in La like like Will Ferrell's a big impetus behind the team and Mia Hamm and and all these great folks that kind of tailored it to Los Angeles and my first game was you I'd never felt that kind of pride in Los Angeles like I've always sort of felt like a transplant here and I've been here for almost 20 years and it was incredible the game itself is is mind-blowing like it's Non-Stop and like the physical feet of and I grew up playing soccer so I love to watch it I love to play like it's great but the sense of community here and the enthusiasm and just the the way that they have built the stadium in downtown Los Angeles it was it was heavy I felt it so deeply you can make fun of me all you want look at that gorgeous stadium football fan can helmets off this nonsense nonsense carry around you while we playing games protect you in a little bit just protect you all the way home I got it from a distant areas to play on guys in the transitionary. They're transitioning does right when they see the original men were leather helmets are Native American Friends of the problems what when when they first start invented football is the Native American teens with download app the f****** old school angry that the Grandpa got scalped still station and it's the really the origins of the beginning of football team barely had pads that like these little shoulder f****** things that like dudes have now and sportcoats to make themselves look like they you know if they're more boxy is it dude with like padded shoulders and sport coat cuz I feel like a douchebag can people died playing football

I mean I will say I feel like like there was like a little piece of my Humanity that was lost when I was in a VR situation where I came back and I'm like I got lost time or something more fun sometimes when it's complicated one day if things keep you don't think it's already here I don't know I don't know and then look at like a modern brand new BMW but the amount of technology and I have this shift is so so crazy and not that long like a hundred years or so imagine what is going to be like a hundred years from now cuz things just speeding up virtual reality is this is just the tip of the iceberg I think you're right but I don't know if you're right and I don't think I think we're limited to what were we understand people are capable of right now I don't I think I'm 10 to our actual like resources collapse and you can't go outside and have to live in a bubble nothing can replace a live music show or Live Comedy Show like when you're right there I think you're right for now until the VR get paid from the pyrotechnics when you played and the pyrotechnics experience of being there live the question that was that was a request the question is is I can't believe that you could replace check me out here the energy that you get from a live performance with virtual reality I can't believe or subscribe to that thought that it is going to be manufactured digitally like you can get all the effects of the sensory stuff with the sound in the visual and maybe even have Machinery that gives you physical like air or heat or cold or whatever it would you know simulate that thing but I can't at the core of my being thanks think that you could you could substitute the energy that you feel when you connect with a group room full of people to yours love you guys this is so much fun you don't saying completely agree with you but I don't live at Coachella at a show where you are on stage live and get that same exact experience if you were at home on a computer or with a VR goggle I feel like right now yes but in the future they might be able to get to the point where it's better to do it through VR cuz I'm standing right next to you while you're singing on stage the intimacy of the crowd experience where you can look to your neighbors get to the point where it's better to do it through VR cuz I'm standing right next to you while you singing on stage the intimacy of the crowd experience where you can look to your neighbors and be like f*** yes

equal word to come on son to two girls and I mean that and I don't say that lightly but I can laugh when you're like yeah b**** did a show at The Wiltern in Los Angeles and December 21st 2012 that was the Terence McKenna think the end of the Mayan calendar based on the E Chang that was mapping out time and calendar the thing called novelty Theory and Novelty theory he based off to eat chink which is it's a divination system a Chinese divination system and it would throw these hexagrams I believe text cramps and they would indicate a certain pattern and they would try to recognize this so it's a Chinese method of divination is more than a thousand years old and they were trying to conduct with McKenna believed this would he believe they teaching really was he believed it was a map of time and that they had through some way figured out through hexagrams recognize a time was it was mimicking you could capture it in in hexagrams in in in mathematics and geometry he come up with some sort of assistant this thing and he called that system time-wave zero and what he thought that system was he thought that was a system of recognizing novelty like new ideas creative things whether it's the internet or internal combustion engine or the Tesla electric car anything where it was will you could map that out and you could say okay if you looked at this as a mathematical algorithm and you saw how this is going to be you could almost predict patterns in this wave and where do you where do you predict this happening in that happening and where does it end what does it get to appoint with so crazy no no shut the f*** to do and then parents his life he believed that time was December 21st 2012 and he Barracuda 1970 Barracuda and my license plate was December 2012 because of my gift did you think was going to end honey I'm going to be with my favorite people on the planet like legitimately great what was fun was fun it was like my favorite people on my family and my friends to be able to do a suit thank you for bringing us on to stop at the new presidential election so when was it November 21st 2000 what is it Whatever It Is 2020 going to be at The Comedy Store going to make that should happen we going to do another Life podcast this time it's just going to be me stand up in a couple other people last time we got too many people November 3rd and the world or not we can work together just saw this system that were on this f****** clock the wrong it's not good for anybody we're all worried no one's good at being wrong no one's good at being like I made a mistake I'm so sorry cuz you're a human and that's what we do and that's where I think there's this like real disconnect with the people that are quote on quote running this country you know there's there's no room for error in exhibit human qualities and also be leaders at the same time you know I think they're scared I think everybody's scared when you're in a position where you here for one killer you barely can keep your s*** together like ouu an alien have another f****** planet you're not are you an alien another f****** planet you're not

thought about Neal Brennan special from people to watch analogy of Ice-T your favorite comedian s*** he punches up 2004 was a long time ago but Steven it might have been three could have been three we fly out to New York and they're filming all day in this f****** old ass Warehouse with no windows and it's freezing everybody's and winter coats and those burner hear things with portable like in Ferndale he did a crackhead character Dave Chappelle Show do all every time we ran into each other throughout the day he look at manga

y'all deviate but what I don't want to do I don't want to work out brand new material for 3,000 people one night at the store and this was a year ago and you had to Jet right after the second go to Pasadena for another set me on my buddy that I brought with me we just like we're going to hang here so you comes out in like Jeff Ross with somebody comes out and he's doing his bit and right in the middle of it the back curtain opens in Chappell walks out and just kind of like Taps Ross on the I got this you know and just Jack the mic and pretty much everybody else's set who was supposed to perform that night and stands are for like 3 hours man just sitting there I will probably never happen again I'm not f****** leaving and we just sat there the whole time he said they're rocking tequila bombs and getting drunk and just really talk in there was times where was the funniest thing I've ever seen literally and there were times really good kind of got dark and you're like words with the fox happening or is this going and he was working and then later on those Netflix specials land and I realize I've already heard like 90% of these jokes and cuz the guys just going to go hijacked the main room work my s*** out cuz I got it like that on Dave Chappelle you know what is f****** amazing yeah he does that a lot will he'll just drop into place and just do a set and that's that's how he kind of works his material out you know he just kind of drops in and keeps tweaking it and it's it's if he has a structure right like if he has a few ideas he's talking about he can just rip and Specialty drink and just go on stage and then freaking and there's always got dudes behind them that are taking down notes letting them know like all you talked about this day and I'm sure they record it to go over it and eventually boil it down to like what that Netflix special was the to Netflix specials in a year later put out to Netflix just want this month and I'd like to put it down for all eternity are you cool with that most people like you write something and it's a good solid year before you even consider putting in a special you know some guys were doing like a special year but too much it was like half-cooked like if you just waited six more months this thing would be like an all-time great special instead you're banging them out once a year you never get the essence of the thing with his thing to part of his thing making it look like it's so easy realistic cuz they had a night at the county store just like it did feel like he was just sort of making the s*** up on the spot and then you see the Netflix specials and it sort of feels the same way like he's just being Dave and Becky with little subtle things I noticed like probably 10 times throughout the night at really awkward moments he would call the waitress to get him another drink but he would he would only say bar horror and every time you say it it get a little a little more like a little less appropriate each and every f****** town were probably get to eventually everybody the room is like that's not really cool Shelby Renee Todd Fillmore doesn't even he'll do that but that's booked he books that you have to build that shitt not like he'll work at a comedy club in just show up. I was in Denver once the green room after the show it was after the late show Friday night I went backstage and days of The Green Room back in people ready getting up and leaving I said date ladies gentlemen get back their spells here and we just flew in and I see him and then he does but his creative process is like almost like engineered around being loose like doing whatever he wants going where he wants to go do whatever he wants and then writing you know and then figured out on stage than Redfin and then just f****** around fascinating fascinating to watch slick Jazz almost yeah that's what Dave Chappelle wants to do that's the key I think that's the key if we can all be in the business of whoever the f*** you are whatever you do well is I like the right songs and make records and pretty much say no to everything else does what Dave Chappelle wants to do that's the key extinct think that's the key if we can all be in the business of where the f*** you are whatever you do well is I like to write songs and make records and pretty much say no to everything else

yeah I was just texting him the other day maybe real hopeful he keeps doing what he's doing cuz if that guy runs for president right they can have those f****** Giants peaches and that's one of the reasons why Trump is successful is his ability to stand in front of large groups of people and get big reaction that's what Trump is Trump's too, cuz that nothing but shity, Sabah form so all the politicians the form of even the most interesting was a really boring to listen talk to for long periods of time but Trump goes up there and it makes fun of Mike Bloomberg height by ducking under the fucken table and any calls Hillary went crazy her lying Hillary and sleepy Joe Biden makes jokes about them I'm not saying I'm not justifying what he does but the reason why he can't even do what he does besides him when it comes to communicating is so goddamn boring their messages so f****** boring something to wear the mask killer Mike is no mask he's guns-blazing oh yeah that kind of person is the future call a man that's what's going to happen with back to the jumping weird weird like sculpted fake scripted reality Trump is the antidote to that that's the problem they're all crazy to that might be the worst kind of crazy it's a broken system does nonsense nonsense people do for you it's like someone description of it. it is harmless and they just fans and they wanted to be like him they might not even realize they're doing it and eventually find their own voice with musicians and having probably with everybody in in are in everything right but the problem is doing something like that is like I can't listen you can't run the world if you're doing a character for doing this as you're trying to make it as a comic and you pretend you're Dave Attell fine but you want to run the f****** free didn't you do any Obama thing and you talking like this and you talking exactly exactly Ciroc Obama you're right that's what they all are almost every one of them

I had a dream that I was late for the Joe Rogan podcast and I also had a dream that Brad Pitt and I were dating and I was in fact late as we've talked about so I can't see it anyway the other one my parents and what's what was ironic is they knew who all the characters were like my dad said oh I bet that text I'll bet because those were real people so are some of them and you know that was kind of chilling to me to think about the fact that they knew by name who teased Charlie Manson heads were by watching this movie cuz it's you know way before my time so killed those folks you know how the story turned out right so you expect a happier ending this is wild but pretty grandfathered-in I think Tarantino's grandfathered-in right cuz everybody was always known him for having the wild as crazy as f****** scene from Pulp Fiction straight on the thing is he can still do a super UltraViolet movie and people consider it great art and I think that's getting harder and harder to do right I think I think he's like everybody knows that's a Tarantino movie new person tried to do it they would hit more woke reaction more people are we really celebrating a scene good job of like like getting up the good guy to win so and we all want that badly so you know if anything like he's got a formula that continues to work yeah I want to see the bad guys get the s*** kicked out of its there's Justice app for entertainment sag in a goddamn it's so nice having someone like him around Joe you're going to be in the next Tarantino movie

Lenny Kravitz pants rip some crazy Farm in Brazil on a giant farm dude he's so talented he's so talented I'll have you seen as a film where he produces make jackets record how's mean to him like what like little pieces of art things to someone left him think people can up the things that have like real significant meaning Timmy's talk to a twine what they are consonant there's whatever hole band stay over at my place or whatever whatever living the dream what is listless gas let's be conservative c73 I think with Mick Jagger one of the big thing says that Mick Jagger is like really really into fitness like he works out his heart was so if you want to see Mick Jagger that's from dancing in the streets is right there can you dance to your own sounds crystals and f****** for s*** I feel that freedom

Bronson that dude smoke 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 blunts in the course of One vodka will get blown over here it'll suck all the air out of the room and connect us with Jesus as a phone abused that I was like perfect right now we got one for smokers so fire up that spliff kind sir do not be scared of intoxication he's probably from another planet Mary and Joseph 12:50 I'm impressed I'm very impressed. Hills of dead in their tracks like farmers in certain areas would find the sheep-like legs up the last time I smoked DMT and I was prepared to have a moment old landlord Carlos would like and my bathtub was leaking and I was I was very high and it was a terrifying so anyway I haven't smoked since I'd like to at some point but it won't what this like that the drug use is versus f****** law enforcement should be on drugs do I do good law enforcement she all be on mushrooms have every cop on mushrooms like right now that guy's dad the bank robber or that guy has baby all cops why you playing games come on man you about their life and death in the streets for meditation and medication music and adjust the chemicals and I think that's I think every way that we know of that's beneficial to just the chemicals whether it's through yoga or meditation or or love or music or comedy or anything you can find that puts you in a better place we should embrace that and agree mushrooms are one of those things it's not listen to ACDC Highway to Hell all day long ac-dc-highway-to-hell 24/7 is going to be a bummer man I mean you might you might like the first two or three place I would like Bluetooth randomly to play a song of his bits would come up like one of the first things that I've done this old truck it's a little weird drug but you guys do is a little weird drug likewise so are we drug dealers so are we drug dealers is that what you're saying

did you get a chance that beer thing that would be cool to tell people I can really really yeah I guess so a lot of other things so it's like yeah you all day at four squares but my dear landlord friend invited me downstairs to play this game that was created by the Rich Dad Poor Dad author and I can't is it called suck my dick suck my dick it's about it's a financial game it's like an adult Monopoly because you're kind of like buying property and then you're like making deals and there's something about it that why did you read Rich Dad Poor Dad it's an interesting way to approach a relationship with money if you've ever struggled with it or weren't sort of given a crash course on how to handle it or not handle it with you know in a way that you can live a healthier life and you know not obviously in a can Society like you kind of have this constant like I need I need anything out of that stuff but Rich Dad Poor Dad first of all I read the book I didn't read the whole book so I can't really like a speak on the entirety of it but it gave me a different level of confidence that money was taken from me you know like the work as an artist like I chose the life to be a musician I could have lived in Cleveland and sold spaghetti and had a comfortable life and this is my family has a great a great restaurant if that ship has sailed cuz it's like out of my immediate family has hands but at the time I have had many many moments in my life where I was like should I move home and just like ditch this music thing because that would be so much easier and Money's been like this you know you kind of have I had a roller coaster and it can like roll my sleep and Rule my happiness in mind but when I read Rich Dad Poor Dad and then in conjunction with this board game I played with Russell it really it's so funny it it seems you know what it seems like part of the whole illusion of reality and obviously you need money to survive but the the stock that we put into it is pretty incredible you know things that we think that we need in order to to like yes yes and I feel like there's this weird mine came I'm always playing with it like in in terms of like getting to the next level of my music career like it's going to take this much how you going to get it in all that stuff but at the end of the day I think when you sort of like release your White Knuckles on on the thing it all works itself out I know that sounds pretty you know broad but I think of money is Tangled in the Life what you currently can do right based on your circumstances are facing your life your health your responsibilities there's what you can do and is what what's like what's humanly possible for and when you see people that are making a lot of money and you see that money the money source is it get you thinking that's what you should do you should do that money thing whatever that money is used to make less money now I make more money and that makes more money than even I make I got to do what that is to get more money but then you do that this isn't fun and I most of my day is spent doing something that's not enjoyable that's not what I want to do what you want to do what you can do with the possible and which one and they don't always go together sometimes what you can do is like you have too much responsibilities in your you are always going to feel the short-sighted by life because it's random and it's craziness chaos but the money thing can trick it like if you have a certain amount of money in the bank like Brian counted the best of me so once you go to restaurant and don't worry about what food cost because everything else is b******* you know your gas is paid your car payment paid you not worried about it at all you can just go eat let's go eat at tip thank you goodnight by that's when that's when you're rich everything other than that is like what are you doing cuz you just trying to score points cuz that's what we do and try to get the high score to get the high score I just just passed Pawn super old school door ship that's funny but that's what it's like you know always because you're more relaxed if you more relaxed you're better if you better you attract people that want to do stuff with you for people anxious people are the worst angry people because of the angry that they've been f***** over by the system somehow and I know how hard I work in like trying to get the things that I really want I don't feel dated or or you know cynical about it I feel really excited gigantic is going to be really romantic me and Brad Pitt just funky become gigantic is going to be really romantic me and Brad Pitt just funky doing the best you can do is hope

vat19 I'm in this Comedy Club Greenville, some black room Chappelle is on stage and he's getting booed and his Dismount off getting booed is something I've never seen before in my life it was fantastic he's like f*** y'all I'm going to be famous chance in comedy because he walked by nobody wanted to touch him cuz he had that that that that bomb on them to even say hey man the stages of iMac you thinking why doesn't he leave and he's sitting there and Tony what's goes on stage next and Tony was like wow man goddamn like just kind of a similar Cadence and Tony just destroy got a standing ovation like night and day and I was just 19 new like absorbing this I mean like I think I'm 5-7 but I'm stuck in a 6-5 but I'm just turning like looking what they going to do next and they get up together and they walk out I kind of just follow him out thinking I don't know what's going to happen even hey kids when they get in the same car and and lot longer and I knew that Dave that's kind of like how when Kobe came into the league and was talking like Mike and then Kobe Lena tahuko be separate from Tony but what I love about what they did in this is why he's great is he had he recognized Tony in his greatest like heated moment I guess the most honest thing you can do you don't even most people like I did this on me but he was like and what he said about when he could not have been true or you know what I mean and so it just like touched my heart cuz I was I was there at the epicenter when I was watching Dave figure it out so that we can get through to the point where we have kids before we talk guy and functionally downhill when I mentally or physically but after that Eeveelution doesn't care about us anymore and therefore we are only equipped to write that much terms of their ability to recover from the damage of just regular everyday life and exercise and abuse and running around back to the difference between a younger person and older person to let me answer that question by stepping back one step from one day to the next even stopping before with boa and those changes every time using the word damage to describe changes is because eventually things don't work so well so you're quite right that recovery from injury is one thing that doesn't work so well but plenty of other things the amount by which they become less good it's pretty negligible until the age of 40 or 50 it's on the decline start to acceler-ice so what do you do in your own life to try to mitigate that acceleration I'm already bad example sausage bake off and you know I'm fat by look younger than I actually am chronologically how old you chronologically the amount that is more than the damage I'm doing Myself by for example not getting enough sleep like using a black to car three runs everywhere like it's beating his wife as a car and he doesn't buy a car isn't he's not spending any of that money but he's he's the real deal like he's not posing that's that guy all day long 24 hours a day you know when he's honest about every step of the way. f*** you b**** you got to run run motherfuker because then once I run then I feel it because I get mad at myself for not wanting to run earlier so I run more like he's honest about like his vulnerabilities in his weakness is honest about who he is but it's also there's no no question he's going to get everything done like he's a complex individual and I think because of the fact that he's so honest about all that stuff tell me more intriguing like he's honest like all the pictures of him when he was drinking milkshakes near 300 lb and he loves showing those two people that was me that was me as a fat f*** I was a fat f*** I was lazy the first time he thinks everybody has that in them do you think everybody not to that degree it depends me everybody has that in them if you choose to act the way he acts but a lot of that book is insane and you learn cuz I read the book as well you learn from that book in the audiobook a book I would actually recommend Elizabeth because in between chapters he talks about all the different things that happened and actually elaborates in the immortal tense of whale makes you holy s*** like his life was hell his father was a monster and he did not have a happy childhood by any stretch of the imagination was horrible it was he it was filled with torture and racism and strife and struggle and he felt sorry for himself and his terrible but all those demons now he has those motherfukers locked up pushing the wheel you know that Iron Wheel at Coney for him now those aren't they work for him what was your first deployment like so my first one was with that why we're doing submersible work so I drove like a 22-foot mini-sub for 5 years real waterborne activities and Let It Go like you're in the water. Just underwater oh really yeah so you're wearing scuba gear while you're piloting the oven so the water gets in there yep well you can probably pull up a picture of it bro that's mine f*** off top of a mind for fpv just being in the scuba is crazy but being a scuba gear inside of a f****** submarine with the door shut that's what it looks like she is now that's nuts and I was so it's like a convertible behind those dudes the doors sliders if you have them open like s*** to be like James Bond movie landing on the back of a submarine is 22 ft long whatever call first world war submarines and they had a window that look like for back to your question how much hair do we got enough friends when they got to the bottom actually get down there and then anything like back to your question how much hair do we got oh my God I guess we have enough oh my God

mitigate when you go overseas the effect of being over there too long because I would I would imagine that the stress of constant combat first so this is my ignorance of it but this is what I would think is that what happens first is probably like you get better at being calm and more accustomed to it but after a while the pressure eventually starts to crack you that it did just many many many months over there dealing with it do you have to decompress you do and they have like decompression windows at the end of deployments how much that would it look with a typical deployment how long does it last so I was over there for 4 months and they do everything front but they've done everything from 3 months to 13 plus for Special Operations guys and the reason being they do the shorter ones because of the operation Tempo you're doing so much and you're doing it so quickly and they want you to be freshly watch be good at it because they don't want that stressed out what is that like this distress I quit. How does it affect people because I mean I would assume the affects everyone differently no but the but the process of being In Harm's Way consistently for a long-term I joke about it making everybody professionally paranoid like you're always like I'm not always wound up but I'm always on some sort of alert for things you know I'm always thinking about stuff I'm always quitanda II NYC doing that right in a way that I don't I don't know why that's there I mean I know why but I don't know what part of my brain is saying what the f*** is that car done is that hard to let go and civilian life or is it just there forever and I think it's there are forever I can't I don't know if it's still there Jersey jackals video a video recently where he's like people who sing why you looking over your shoulder some checking my flanks like what why you was in the dark he goes so the enemy can't see me how come you don't smile I want them to see my teeth that guy he's both a brilliant guy who is wise and humble and but also f****** gorilla yeah he's a little legit Savage ya had the chance to roll a little bit with him. Don't do that knuckle in engines throat doing something I think I want to say John that sounds right I think John that had it in full guard didn't know how to tap exactly like going yeah I think John had him in full guard might be f****** this up and Jocko put his knuckles into Johns neck and was like using a neck crank compressing his neck from like either guard or maybe even side control and then had a knuckle in the throat I think popped a bone is from the guard I think I was about like from me to you to this going on I broke a bone in his neck feel he's a gorilla big hairless gorilla your big guys that are skilled that's so humiliating a big guy that skillful and I've had that happen once in the past like the I think I'm cool then you find out you're not cuz I'm not a big dude right like buddy mine played played I think I would line at Stanford I came home from deployment and I'm back I got a little Blitz is like screwing around like for your size and puts me down oh my God I feel so emasculated real strong for your size is such a f****** weird compromised he was like he's like 300 lb like 650 your black belt 8 thanks Andy and he's crazy

so let's bring people up to speed what would have the what are the latest Revelations what's the the latest in terms of what we understand it in terms of what could possibly be fixed about human aging no before that is fantastic news because of course it means that we're unlikely to find anything out in the future either it means that we are pretty much on top of the description of the problem and therefore it's all about solving the problem is it possible summarize the problem any machine that has moving Parts is going to do itself damage in the course of operation so that we can get through to the point where we have kids before we talk guy and functionally downhill when a mentally or physically but after that Eeveelution doesn't care about us anymore and therefore we only accept that much Trinity younger person older person in terms of their ability to recover from the damage of just regular everyday life and exercise and abuse and running around us back to the difference between what body have to do to keep it alive from one day to the next even stopping before with those changes every time using the word damage to exchange it is because eventually things don't work so well so you're quite right that recovery from injury is one thing that doesn't work so well but the point is that the amount by which they become less good it's pretty negligible until the age of 40 or 50 it's on the decline start to accelerate so what do you do in your own life to try to mitigate that acceleration I'm already bad example things happen and I don't even need to exercise its bake off and you know I'm fat by look younger than I actually am chronologically maybe tonight when he know maybe the amount that I'm hastening it is more than the damage I'm doing Myself by for example not getting enough sleep and you still drink booze I feel drink how often Wunderground now we have do we have any beer do any Heineken Heineken Anakin doesn't taste like beer I don't know I'm in the mouth a little weed infused beer for a while back ago that do f*** her food up to lose all his gains by Logic station. Never smoked

Hans that you are really interested in doing they haven't done yet I really want to do a spot stock mountain lion hunt oh Jesus oh yeah spots in stocks yes we're going to do that there's a decent chance for it to have decent chance cuz the population density density and then I think Oregon and I want to say South Dakota don't allow dog hunts so organs weird play Let's Dance boys footed I mean foliage that would be hard I think of you. You know what I want that kind of chant like those are the things that really get me like way deep inside you were talking about this last night you going to give yourself away like 3 weeks I need a couple weeks so we really want to make it happen what's the process you get a tag you going to the backcountry and are you going to be shocked or you going to just sleep in the woods I got to be my that would be what I kinda want to do is solo baby Solo or maybe one of the guy I think more than that you're going to have so much presence in those words you're never to see a cat yeah you find a cat when you're by yourself so your plan is to get yourself in an area where the yeah but that's part of the cool part about hunting it's not just killing right right for me instead of California having seen a mountain lion when I was younger I just had a like a real deep feeling about mountain lions I think they're incredible animals and I think it would be a really really special thing to pit my training and brain with a bow against the cat like and eat it yes that's going to be weird sitting down there eating a cat that you killed with a bow and arrow it's going to be really cool if it's if I'm able to make it happen at some point we want me to get a lot of meals out of that cat huge do they really get that big 200 yeah that's a big cat weird animal that just sort of coexist with us you seen that photo that I have out there of the one by the Hollywood sign that's a real photo it's so cool right by the Hollywood sign the live though cuz it's literally on top of people good luck finding a deer up there for that reason that motherfukers Jack in the mall eating everything and dogs and cats and probably kids and some kid f**** up and goes off in the in the sort of semi-urban settings but it's only weird because of the setting and because we're not used to it so long and now it's weird cuz we separated the last few Generations so How Deeply how far away are you from planning this out probably couple years if I'm guessing correctly house at work because it's hard to get a tag or no because I want to make sure that my skills and my ability are up to Snuff where I'm comfortable doing that and pulling it off so it's right now just a thought like a plan absolutely put on the books for 2023 tag or no because I want to make sure that my skills and my ability are up to Snuff where I'm comfortable doing that and pulling it off so it's right now just a thought like a plan absolutely put on the books for 2023 or something like that something like that

what was your first deployment like so my first one was with that why we're doing submersible work so I drove like a 22-foot mini-sub for 5 years real waterborne activities and Let It Go not just underwater oh really yeah so you're wearing scuba gear while you're piloting the yelling so the water gets in there well you can probably pull up a picture of it bro that's not mine f*** off top of a mine for fpv just being in the scuba is crazy but being a scuba gear inside of a f****** submarine with the door shut there she is so that's not sound like a convertible it none of us up behind those dudes those doors sliders if you had them open like should be like bro that looks like something from a James Bond movie is 22 ft long I mean that's whatever call left in there that we can cool it was fake I saw that in a movie but they don't have one of those when did they first invent submarines in Leica tell my story to the cry back to your question how much hair do we got enough more than anything in the waters of Submarine the idea of being in one of them tubes and sliding around stop being a p**** using Sonar and you think like what's no water there's some big ass animals that water big big whales and sharks and dolphins and all sorts of crazy s*** down there on the bottom ones and we saw this like scorpion crab looking thing like walking around on a Great Dane like a crab a crab leg Great Dane underwater underwater is ridiculous. Know what it was but it was terrifying is it that is undocumented animal documented there's a bunch of those weird like spider crab come up when you get like a tsunami wash them ashore have you ever seen those websites dedicated like the stuff that was in the Thailand Tsunami I go way down the rabbit hole on some of that crap look real and they pulled like I think they recently got a whale that had a spear tip in it from like 200 years ago or a hundred fifty years ago like Sosa currently living well yeah yeah and it lived I think I've heard this recently yeah why all animals are crazy I mean to be like 3 or something there's enough scary s*** out there we don't need to make up a Loch Ness monster doesn't make any sense I just think that people see things in the water and then they exaggerate the size of him and the next thing you know they're telling a story is probably some s*** in their heels I'm sure or maybe a sturgeon or something like that hives Harpoon attack 130 years ago to become the world's oldest male looking at Harpoon I'm glad I wasn't full of s*** embedded in his neck Alaska so how they catch it so biologists claim the find help prove the bowhead is the oldest living mammal on Earth has a 13cm arrow-shaped fragment dates back to around 1880 wow 50 ton wheeled been coasting around is freezing Arctic Waters since the Victorian times that's nuts man wild and since they never took Cavs the estimated the bowhead was several years old when it was first shot in about a hundred thirty when it died last month also had died goddamn and probably died cuz they caught it I mean I can't be good for it yeah it's just weird how many different things died last month also died goddamn and probably died cuz they got it I mean I can't be good for it yeah it's just weird how many different things I used to do with whales this return with the lamps

what are you telling them to think of when you're telling them like reteaching combat pistols you teach him how to utilize a pistol what do you what what is the process of like I try and break stuff down as simple as possible so that it's easy steps for people to talk through to create a habit so that you're using it as a subconscious effort right like I want you to be able to draw and fire that pistol or shoulder and fire the rifle the way that you're almost not thinking through once you become very proficient at the shooting so that your brain can stay open to all the other pertinent s*** that's going on all the scary crap is happening out there right so it becomes an automatic movement you want it to be like that you want it to be an automatic movement and those guys out there with a ton more combat time in a s*** ton more teaching experience that say the exact same thing and they say it because it works because there's not time to screw around with having to think through the process it's similar to how your drawing a Bone hunting right to time to really think through it all now an animal walking out in front of you had that stuff simple and we can only handle so much information so I'll break it down feed you more pieces individually as they come up now how much in the military how much time do they spend instructing or coaching people on how to how to think during intense and stressful situations so they they started to do more of that when I was in buds does a fairly recent thing relatively recent and I know they do more now and what they're trying to do is get people to make sure that they can understand what they're doing and perform under the pressure right and a lot of it a lot of the training and a lot of the selection weeds out people that can't put stress and information into the same Lane of traffic you can always lose it so what they're what they're saying is it's all processed but they've been there weeding people out that can't handle that sort of shed and so does this something that they've written books on or their manuals on this and or is this just something that's understood no not remember that pinging us on this for me when I was in like psychological stuff we did have some guys come in and talk to us and then you know I don't particularly remember exactly what the advice was like word for word but I do remember it being like follow your training and overtraining you the right way and it's not to do as you're told is do what you know how to do and you'll do it well and is a lot of being able to perform in combat in these situations that are insanely stressful and give them information stress the same time is a lot of that just learned by experience I think so what was it like for you being overseas organic process yeah I was one of the guys there cuz I was augmenting meaning I was an extra person I volunteered to go ask to go so I was open ears open eyes and closed mouth for 4 months like these dudes that are over there have been had been doing it for a long time at that point cuz I was there in 2011 and 12 and it's all a process that is fatally consequential and I knew that so you're like I'm just going to shut up and f****** listen or shut up and watch those wise it's f****** terrifying is why it's not necessarily being wise like you're just I don't want to die stepping over there for a reason you know he's not leaning against that wall for reason he's doing this for a reason he's got his gear setup like that for it's not for fun you know they're not over the airsofting it's f****** for real so yes questions and the best thing that I've been able to get from the teams which was super evident there is you learn how to learn you know you learn how to be a student a good one cuz if you're not learn how to learn don't you learn how to be a student a good one cuz if you're not there's a good chance you could die a lot of guys have died overseas and a lot of guys have died in training still doing the right thing

so much mental management involved in that that's why it when guys like Jocko come along and they can take that understanding of leadership and mental management and and then teach it to other people. Teach it to corporations and teach it to groups and law enforcement and people that need that sort of understanding that's coming from a guy like him with the immense amount of experience that he has in a couple different genres that allow him to den teach that in a way that is comprehendible and super-efficient it seems to me that that would be one of the most important parts of that of that job about how to handle deployment how to handle coming back and do the mental aspect of it yeah you learn it from other guys like I think so I think it's just a I honestly think a lot of it is that process weeds out so many dudes it would be the the ticking time bomb or the guy that can't handle it by the time we're training for this stuff and it's super stressful everybody's pretty much on on their s*** you know and then there's like little stuff that you learn while you're doing shooting that you can transfer to all of it the breathing techniques right and then by and large we are so well-trained and know that we're so well-trained that you're just doing your damn job. Just do your job and do the best you can I'm not thinking about me necessarily as much as I'm thinking about everybody else also as fascinating to the training is so ruthless and brutal that it weeds out people can handle s*** f****** works then we doing it basically the same way since the sixties but hasn't there been some chit-chat about alleviating the standards to let women pass through I've heard of it I've heard I've heard that they want to put females to the program but not to change the standards how many women have gone through buds 0 don't say that women are going to feel like you're a sexist you should lie I'm not sure I do not see GI Jane cuz she went through well yeah but she said they weren't allowed to I am not sure but I think that they're trying to make that a thing now trying I wonder how many women have attempted to go through buds Jimmy see if you can Google how many women have attempted to go through buds ladies listening to this please don't get uncomfortable just trying to figure it out do the same stuff that they're doing for that they're probably making sure she can make it through the program also they want to make sure this physically she can probably a pre-screen screen pre-screen they do that for officers to make women is it coming from women that want to do it or is it coming from politicians that want to sort of show that they have a diverse lineup politicians 1% because he was a deal I've meant more than enough females that are Apache Pilots fighter pilots badass UD chicks which is explosive Ordnance like Hurt Locker right bad women in the military they want no part of that job I could be a Navy SEAL and that's not they just don't want that job why is that you'd have to ask them about Navy Seals is that it's like recognized that these are the best of the best days of the most Savage human beings that we can create the most efficient the most effective the one that can handle the most the ones who can get the job done when the shed is is Harry as it gets yeah and Hawaii change the program just to diversify the lineup there's nothing that they want to show do that they're not sexist this is equal opportunity in the people that want to prove it are the ones that aren't in the ring yeah that's the problem right you're not getting this from the actual team itself to nothing chicks I'm sure it's the same I feel for those women cuz they're going to take a lot of s*** oh my God yeah but doesn't everybody takes s*** so like s*** s*** yeah for sure the first woman damn right they're going to be like well you didn't do it the same as everybody else does is it going to take a lot of s*** oh my God yeah but doesn't everybody takes it so like this extra s*** s*** yeah for sure the first woman damn right they're going to be like well you didn't do it the same as everybody else

Google talking about was the difference between the way the media depicts it and the way it is is there anybody that's it got it right is there any movie that you watch and go that's pretty goddamn close I don't know they're all fish you know but a lot of them are very hollywoodized they have to be it's just a story but I can say that Saving Private Ryan was super close obviously I wasn't for that but my dad's dad said he had to step out of the theater we went to go see that because he could smell diesel he remembered it it's that strong of a memory for him was he at Normandy know he cheated in the South Pacific with the that f****** opening scene when they are on the beach it's it's it's tough f****** nuts man the idea that that was the only way that they could handle that situation that they had to do it that way. Imagine being one of those guys enough to get out those boats that was there that was a good better best scenario it was something that someone did to commemorate the anniversary of the event and they did something that represented everybody of everyone who died did it like on the beach so I quit with the number haircuts 425000 Allied Insurance German troops were killed wounded or went missing during the Battle of Normandy Jesus Christ I mean I remember my Grandad has and he told me these things before I joined about stormy a beach in South Pacific and everybody left right front back at him dying going up the sand everywhere you look so that if you were a person who really had this abstract idea that this war went down there that gives you a visual representation what it must have looked like you can kind of almost get it in your head to get makes it more visceral yeah just look and see. Me f****** bodies in it that was the best case scenario for these guys that's the best-case scenario that's why they did it that way before I went to Afghanistan it's about a month is when exercise 17 happen I'm like f*** I'm going there to replace those guys it makes it really really like some something sound home really well and some things don't and for me that did something happened I'm like f*** I'm going there to replace those guys it makes it really really like some something sound home really well and some things don't and for me that did

so when you do return you and how long did you serve for nine years nine years and when you made the decision to get out what was was a decision based on so I never really wanted to do Navy has a full-time career with my tire life cannot do 20 years and get out and collect a pension the war was starting to at the time slow down ish for optempo how quickly does going overseas name an action or seeing the way I saw it was it's like training for a fight that you never do I didn't want that to be my life and I was 28 you know I'm like and what might make some phone calls and see how guys are feeling about stuff overseas and cuz the only jump team of the time right so I had like I didn't quite have my finger on the pulse of what was happening at the team so I made some calls and those guys like a man if there's nothing really dream of this being your Navy Seal for 20 years do you want to go other stuff with your life might be a good time to do it dude I'm happy I did and I got out with all my fingers and toes and I'm glad that I was able to leave on really good terms and feel really happy about what I did cuz I feel like we were making a difference when you say that like what made you feel like you were making a difference things I know that we got to participate in the places we were and the guys that we removed from the battle space captured or killed or f****** s*** heads that were using women and children as targets and we're causing Terror you say terrorist people have this disassociated view of that now right across the newspapers they were causing Terror I don't think people or when a bomb goes off somewhere or there's a mass shooting imagine if that's your your entire life and you're walking around town and that's what's going on every damn day it's not your fault it's just some guy deciding that's there their job in life is to ruin yours and we were moving them so I feel like we were doing a good thing walking around town and that's what's going on every damn day it's not your fault it's just some guy it's deciding that's there their job in life is to ruin yours and we were moving them so I feel like we were doing a good thing

best part about the real long time that we did like everytime stuff pointed at 9:10 hour range it's like you're not eating anything right you come out and you're Haggard man just when I do the UFC and I don't really eat for like six or seven hours it's hard if box with you yeah your your brain is just your brains like a man listen to get a hot dog or something when I'm doing those but that's just that that's just sitting there talking incredible how much Burns off energy is playing chess they do these these world-class chess players in these World Championship events and they found out they were burning thousands of calories just sitting there playing chance cuz they were losing weight and they're trying to figure out why this guy is losing weight like what's happening over the course of this tournament their brain is firing that 6000 calories Robert sapolsky our guy Stanford Professor who well we've having a podcast who studies stress and primates at Stanford University says of chess player can burn up to 6000 calories a day or playing a tournament three times what an average person consume in a day they figured this out fairly recently because of lot of these guys are losing shitloads of weight that's why I got your brain I wonder like I don't think, Terry Burns off anything near what a chess player burns up but I wonder what it. Cuz you are thinking all day while you watching the fights I wonder how much a burning cuz do when I get out of there I eat like a f****** Wolf Trap activity I don't I don't think it's going to know mental because I don't think your heart rate is jacked if there are burning 6000 calories a day just sitting at can I guess measure calories burned off of your physical and also mentally taxing I got done Dives that are 6 to 12 hours long and you got water and you'd like I'm sitting there like I'm using my brain a lot but it's also cool to f*** a couple times and lost 8 plus pounds wow in the water in the water in the water you can get dehydrated when immersed in water it says that polar that company that went to they tracked a chess champion 21 years old in October he burned 560 calories in two hours of sitting and playing chess about the same amount as Rodger Federer wood would burn in an hour of singles tennis an hour of an elliptical is about 5 6600 but I would feel like better or just hopping around all that plyos in East Bernard Hopkins efficient elevated sustained elevated blood pressure is the Pinnacle of things that you do that aren't physical in terms of movement but are incredibly calorie taxing one of those the number I mean that's a very complex game brain surgery go barely moving but your likes concentrating so hard for hours and hours at a time after it's over I'm so hungry and that has to be our 10 hour 15 minutes that's because you're thinking and our 10 hour 15 minutes that's because you're thinking and you're managing it while you're doing it is giant audience there are you got to be f****** OnPoint yeah that's but I think that you have seen makes me more hungry but it's also like 6 hours 7 hours in a day

why is it that so many Team guys wind up getting into skydiving base jumping parachute what is that I mean I don't want to speak for you but so many of the highs and the Thrills of that stuff of base jumping and with what is it that's so attractive about that if it's the thrill as the thrill combined with the enormous amount of mental effort and cognitive load that's going on Focus because you know the consequences f*** you like if you're on the edge of a cliff in a wingsuit there's so much s*** they can go wrong between II you push off that thing and you can't turn around to this 60-ish seconds that it takes to get to the ground that has killed a lot of people a lot of people a lot of people 100 bait shops have about 700 bass Champs is that a good thing for veterans when they come back as well just to give them something that allows them to feel that edge again I would never suggest somebody learn division really f*** now I don't even called a sport I caught a lite choice so you only one people do with that are drawn to it yeah if you're a person that is so willing to do that thing that you will do anything it takes to make it happen and go around me to learn how to do it okay that's okay but I'm not going to be like the great choice for you don't go to therapy at Cliff how much can therapy help veterans I always feel like a you either have of the ability to handle s*** or you don't and then they can help you if you have the ability to handle shut I agree is that make it does arrogant assumption on my part because from no experience but the way I'm thinking of it it's like the amount of wrestling that must be done in your mind going from combat deployment to regular society and seeing the the petty b******* that people think of it as being like life-or-death a real real I need screaming and fighting any like you f****** babies yeah you see that a lot with guys that come back is there just like the f*** is wrong with you is this really worth it right and but I do think that therapy of some type archery shooting base-jumping Jiu-Jitsu there are things that you can take up that I think help guys on packet eyes like undo all of the ship you don't have to go to a therapist to talk doesn't have that's not necessarily the best thing for everybody there's a weird thing about the mind right where it has to be active you have to give your mind tasks oh yeah even meditating isn't being task less right you're focusing on focusing yes something going on and also it's like for people that have experienced combat deployments and then they come back to regular life it's almost like your body's accustomed to a certain level stress now it's not there anymore so I might start creating on its own or looking for it when it's not there I think I've no idea I haven't been tested nor has he if I know but you know so many of us are like adrenal fatigue because we're just well in the FA Cup 5th gear for years right is that real adrenal fatigue I think so yeah you know what I mean a lot of guys are very just like about so much right and I don't think that's because they don't care I think it's because they're their hormones are out of whack. Makes sense well there's also a lot of guys whose hormones are out of whack you know from IDs and from blowing down doors I've been dumped enough where I can I felt my teeth in pretty sure you're not supposed to be able to feel your teeth Jesus Christ will so many guys who get back have hormone issues too because pituitary gland damage from chronic brain trauma I'm not surprised in that stuff that really needs to be addressed and that's the kind of stuff like you were saying for the charity for the traumatic brain injury that s*** that you see it looked at during preventive work yes ahead of time yes and then monitoring people making sure that they're okay cuz that stuff is degenerative and people need to know that that's out there and it can be helped is it hard sometimes for veterans to ask for help I think so because I just feel like maybe asking shows a weakness or maybe they just it just took too difficult to reach out think I think it's the too difficult to reach out and I don't want to be the problem or there must be guys that are worse than me I think it's usually Daddy Surly the the fully inflated ego of ganja could be a hard-ass but there is no that's out there but I think it's a lot of guys that are like now there's probably somebody worse to me so if you come home and you're not dramatically injured right we did Legs blown off her arm blown off you feel like you're lucky so you feel like you shouldn't be asking for help people need help more let me go find somebody else when veterans return is really disturbing like the idea that there's so much emphasis put into training is so much emphasis put into arming and making sure that everybody's geared up your multimillion-dollar machine yeah but then when you get back they don't have a use for anymore used tire now it's getting better and a lot of the outside groups do a really good job but it's tough to realize that there's outside groups that are doing that job yes or a lot of guys I put the FED doing right right thanks. It's almost like there's no pressure on them to resolve some of these issues or to help when you come back is there any coaching the date they give you any sort of they do so I didn't end up going to any of that and they always tell you hey if you need to talk to somebody there are people to talk to you and all the people that you talk to other psychologist or the cam Frances well they colleges which I think is a good thing it's a good thing to talk to psychologist I think so any of those guys veterans themselves there from my recollection they're all on the military on the military but are they all did they experience action I'm not sure I don't want to stay out like off hand without knowing for certain I didn't end up talking into them so I don't know do you like is this something that you discuss with team leaders or do you like guys have been you have deployed never turns it's like a common thing we go hey yo what's it like when you get back is it how it how hard is it to transition to normal everyday life and keep your s*** together and what are the tools that use to get high to maintain think unfortunately that's the stuff is getting talked about now just now more recently because so many cents are you like the fighters right do they ask each other how do you recover after a fight now it's how do you look for it didn't make sure you win cuz that's all we care about what we're looking at front end front end and action front end action front-end action how do I train how do I mitigate all the risk how do I make sure that my buddy isn't the one that's killed because I fuk up right right so if that's what we're concerned about what's going on how do I mitigate all the risk how do I make sure that my buddy isn't the one that killed because I f****** right right so if that's what we're concerned about nobody gives a crap about what's going on with back in because you just going to rinse wash repeat that cycle Bryant till you're done

Bernie Sanders and Trump everybody thought that Donald Trump's f***** and that Hillary Clinton was going to beat him and that no one was concerned all these people like he doesn't have a chance Hillary is going to be the winner who's going to be the winner that same s*** could be going on with Bernie Sanders and Trump and people got to be real careful about that these people to think that Bernie Sanders can't win I don't think you understand what's going on in this country people are fed up with a system they're fed up with this idea that they work so hard and they did give their money up to politicians in the politicians don't really work for the people they don't they don't can I tell you the most annoying thing a politician says well you know I speak for the American people do that I think he's looking out for the interests of the working people and I think he wants people to have a better life and and I'm all for that and if that means I have to pay more into other people who owe you were socialists I've heard people say that or you're f****** socialist bro he's not even a socialist Democratic Socialist it's a different thing he's not he's not like everyone should have the even amount of money and we should all give up our money to the institution and the institutions to decide how it gets divided in you should be able to make more than x amount of dollars that's not what he's saying. Healthcare there's a lot of things that are already socialist ideal that we use we just forgot about it like the fire department the fire department if you don't have a private fire department to put out your fire we pay for the fire department comes out of our taxes pay those those very brave men and women and then they, they put out your fire that's a socialist IDEA Public Schools are socialist ideas beliefs of socialists idea fixing of the road there's a lot of things that your money goes to the idea that you we can't extend that and to have a better life because of it and to have free healthcare and free college education and to eliminate student debt I don't know that that's incorrect I don't know that is wrong I just think it's a thing where our government to me and I'm no expert but it seems like they throw so much money away why not if you going to throw it away do something good with it Diaz and if they're right is revolutionary and that's what he thinks he thinks he can enact revolutionary changes free healthcare revolutionary win pretty much the whole not just the drug companies have but a lot of industry has on the way politicians decide how to spend you warm and that's what he says that's that's one of the things he's saying that makes people scared that's why the the Democrats are scared of him too because they're all getting paid as well but it's not like this is a republican thing only has an established institution thing but it also proves that like with Michael Bloomberg spending all this money that when he goes to Super Tuesday he's going to get 13% of their guesstimating about 13% it's just that he's going to pass up a lot of people that have been campaigning showed you how much money you don't even get play in in our politics by being on every 5 minutes for him strategy what will you do to post us they all that posting the conversation instead of what they're asking to post which that was such a strategy is like these weird strategies they have Think Tank spending millions of dollars to get that done thinking it's going to pass out loud to him whatever his thoughts are so really if they go against each other it's almost the same person I'm not talkin policies at all I'm just saying this characteristics you know we're not going to back down from trunk one where it's like you know let's just see I want to see who the Democratic person is in and then we all got to roll with him if you're on that side Bernie yeah I think it's going to be president because he's old get Elizabeth Warren has his age more dangerous than she is useful okay like I don't know her that well don't trust her after that whole Pocahontas s*** all that the Indian stuff for she said she was Native American and turns out she's like one one hundredth of a percent of whatever the f*** it is me and maybe maybe she would get the women on their side I think but she's also established Democrat money I think maybe more likely that he would get someone that we haven't heard of okay it's in very important as his vice president Mike Pence but I'm saying because it's old because he's only had the heart problem you know the vice president is more important than making Obama vice president Pence same sort of renegade philosophy politics but you know Prairie winds when you go to White House is just as pretty boy right here cuz I want to go to White House with you about the last brouhaha after you put that video up and everybody got upset he'll have you I think what's going to happen is we're going to see that regular Politics the way they've been practiced for all these years in this country with like these two bulshit choices are going to go away and I think it's going to be harder and harder for a stye been practiced for all these years in this country with like these two bulshit choices are going to go away and I think it's going to be harder and harder for established people whether it's Republican or Democrat to keep doing that song and dance and having people buy it and that's a good thing it's a good thing

I want to ask you about this maybe I'll talk with the Dante Wilder excuse he came out with yet today what are you unfortunate do you do you think is there any validity to that if there's look so it's about 55 lb and I go hiking and after I could still do whatever the f*** I want and I'm just chill Rogan Deontay Wilder with a 40 lb outfit on that he killed his legs walking to the ring that's crazy talk I don't understand why you would say that I mean maybe it's true if it's true he said he had it all like 20 minutes before 15 minutes before he went out expert or anything so I just don't know if there's for the letter t in it and I f*** would let him put that on if that was that heavy it was 40 lb if it got to the point where it actually wore his body out as he's walking to the ring what he tried it on the night before they said and he liked it so he's like I'm aware it what makes the decisions the real big thing happened in the third round on Tyson Fury he he put that job in his face and hit him with that beautiful overhand right running the ear and dropped him equilibrium went off after that it does that cause 100% he was bleeding out of his and when that happens you don't know stand upright your body's all wacky it's not moving correctly that's what it looks like with him and that's what I was saying what I was watching it I was like his equilibrium is off until this is what's going on then eventually the commentator said it as well but there is his legs weren't under him but also he's getting bombed on Tyson Fury was hanging on him he would wrap his arm around his head and lean on him with a 270 lb he's carrying all that s*** to like and Tyson did something that had never been done before and then he bullied Deontay Wilder he got on and he came in the heavy and a lot of people thought he came into heavy but I think one of the reasons why I came in heavy is this is part of the strategy he went to what's up you got some did not have a broken eardrum apparently a minor laceration to his ear Wilder did not have a broken jaw some aspect of ignored you have a broken eardrum get a 2 centimeter cut on his ear that took seven stitches to close defeat the fewer was the first of all his professional career that interests so even though he didn't have a ruptured eardrum he still took a significant shot to the ear which often times f**** up your equilibrium and any shots to the temple to the ear a lot times at Fox up your balance but the key got bombed on Tyson Fury figure something out in the first fight that in the 12th round Deontay did not like it when he came after him so it doesn't fight well backing up so he's awkward on his feet and instead of letting Deonte come to him and he was boxing like he did for most of the first fight he fought the second fight the wave ottoman II in the 12th round Hitler right hand and he bully the bully you know and you know I don't mean deontez of Billy like in a bad way I mean he's like his style is he's very aggressive he's one of those ruthless punching knockout artists in the histories for not the number one I mean the guy has 42 Knockouts which is insane like his ass 4140 I think he's got 41 Knockouts 42 wins one by decision and one draw now has one loss Tyson had last Tyson went to decision with a lot of people hookah one of the greats and obviously a brutal knockout artist but Deontay Wilder has that touch of death it's crazy when he dropped Tyson Fury twice in their first fight and the 12th round looks like he was f***** but do you think they should have stopped it earlier I think it's better for his life and career that he wasn't going to come back I don't think it's going to come back he's getting f***** up if you're not going to stop punching him in the head either he's going to keep doing it Tyson was pure and clean and literally unharmed and looked fantastic to me and he been hit a couple of times but no problems down there was nothing that rocked him nothing that hurt him you know a few punches bounced off of them but he was put it on Deontay Wilder Amy he was putting it on them if that is true that he had it on for 20 minutes and then it really wore him out that's that's exceptionally silly on the part of his management to allow that to happen that someone didn't see that is Trainor didn't see that it didn't recognize that that was going to be a big problem calculator I think you just threw it on the night before and goes I feel good didn't really think I'm going to be in this thing for closest 35 minutes before I get on here 20 minutes then the walk-up is like 3 or 4 minutes and then you'd walk into the ring where he couldn't recover maybe it's the only the only comparison I have it like I said I know nothing about boxing but if I hope my son is 35 pounds I'll hold him for like 10 minutes I'm tired but I'm not a professional boxer I mean if I pick that thing up and I was just his train our big hey hey hey feel this now think about how long you don't have the song f*** this but just go out there normally guaranteed next time seems going to be dressed like Tyson that was so intimidating what am I signed up for it when I read this book and I interviewed he was scared but everybody's had Tyson Fury fights in that same way and stays on him can he beat that Tyson Fury vs Tyson Fury just boxes Faceoff who if it when this does have it who who would you pick out the gate on this one Deonte knocking down twice but now the knock him down in the 12th round but Tyson Fury came back and won the remainder of that round so you can almost give that round a draw and then the other round when he knocked him down you got to give the Deontay Wilder remaining 10 rounds are not in dispute remaining 10 Rounds went to Tyson Fury so if you just look at it on paper he should one that fight although most people weren't upset with the decision because Diante almost had him out and it's like it's exciting let's do a rematch no big deal but then in the rematch Tyson Fury just took the judges out of the f****** equation bombed on them it's really unfortunate that there is a question of whether or not that big stupid was wearing his legs out cuz if that really is the case that bums me out man he said he had on 20 minutes before the fight had to do the walk up had to get in the ring and it took it off he knew that was a game-changer Deontay Wilder fight has flatlined every single opponent he's faced except for Tyson Fury Stiverne he didn't flat bottom in the first place beaten by decisions beat the s*** out of them but the second fight you f****** mercum so he was probably thinking he can Mark anybody the way he did with Luis Ortiz same thing the first fight had a tough first fight with him second fight Mark some with one punch I think he just had this thing in his head that that's what he does and he's going to do that to Tyson Fury 2 and he never believe it Tyson Fury was actually in a fight that way there's going to jump on them the third one while they were talking about him fighting Anthony Joshua Tyson Fury find Anthony Joshua first and if that does happen I think he beats Anthony Joshua I think Tyson Fury is the best heavyweight on Earth I do and I think the only person that could beat him is probably Wilder if Wilder can recreate the success of the first fight and catch him I remember stop boxing or after I kind of lost a lot of interest in it because I grew up with like Sugar Ray Tommy Hearns and Marvelous Marvin Hagler and I felt like I don't see fights like that anymore they're possible today I mean that used to seem all the amazing fight anytime Terence Crawford fights in I love that guy Errol Spence Jr vassili lomachenko miss a great time for boxing is it really great prom 2006 now heavyweight to great time for boxing before you crouch jumps on me like I don't know anything about boxing so I'm not saying anything cuz I know some stuff about boxing cuz I'm a fan but it's not like anime like if someone wants to talk to me about MMA I can give you very educated you know opinions on things and I can I have some opinion but you know his other people are better at it it's a good time though I like it I'll get into it then I'll get into it again man third-round I screamed everyone in my house is like what the f*** is going on I know it's I think they should have stopped it in the fifth or sixth I could have done that to yeah but he's Deontay Wilder any of this look in his eyes like what just happened that is hit by God lightning bolt those through the lightning bolt by the sky like people can't believe how hard he is but the key to Tyson Fury's victories he didn't let him hit him just jumped on them and Tyson Fury other Unique Style like that big motherfuker he's 6-9 he's so big and so long such a character has jerked off 7 times a day to build his testosterone do you see that and go see me Usain Gypsy Lube he's got his own Lube his own personal Lube they beats off with he says beating up seven times a day increases testosterone I don't know I don't know if there's facts Gypsy Lube he's got his own Lube his own brand of personal Lube they beat off with he says beating up 7 times a day increases testosterone I don't know I don't know if there's facts about

by the way when I speak I'm speaking it's not it's not my feelings and whether I'm right around saying this is with a yoga teacher so I can teach ganesha's of being he's a g Vegeta mean to the soul like an idiot they say you don't have a soul you are a soul you have a body so the bodies change but the soul is eternal so that's called a giva Tut value understand that your separate we are separate than our bodies we are set like you said earlier separate them I thought receptive or subtle body or mind so you take out a different Rogan machine a Rockin Robin off machine and sometimes the machines are good at Warfare fighting sometimes machines are good art sometimes machines is your karmic has any of the car and I have this body that have such good fortune or poor fortune or some great success and it's the calm of the body but you have to leave that body so Ganesh is also a post Brahma is also a post you could have been a Brahma in a previous life or could be one in a previous life and you get a body just like you got a body in this life according to how you act and how you behave how you think and the people you associate with they give you a body for example if you and I grow up together and all we talk about is martial arts we got pictures of Arnold Schwarzenegger a narwhal we start to create a body that emulates those Heroes and we couldn't care less and we just like watching TV and do nothing we get a body according to do in this lifetime we're making bodies and we're making our minds will make your intelligence but the yogi set up everything that we do is a practice just like I just found out today that you were Taekwondo Champion by reading your bio on Wikipedia so you got that way from a practice it didn't just like spontaneously come you practiced and you bring that practice with you wherever you go and you can get better at the practice or you can get a little good but the yogi say that everything we do is a practice it's our thoughts or intelligence are skills or spirituality our addictions they don't just fall from the sky we work on them and you'll and that's why there's these things which another thing I don't have to study the lives of prodigies unbelievable 4 years old Musical prodigies where's that coming from the yogi say it's not random it's not weird is that quirky is unexplainable it's a practice that was a child chess player from Norway who could play like six people backwards and beat them and not that use that facing them is memorizing the board where do you get that type of intelligence the only state that the practice or Mozart and Chopin for her like virtuoso's at 4 spiritual virtuoso's like from a very early age like my teachers teachers teacher like a grandfather teacher was like a master of Sanskrit at age for Willow and could you class on it and cook it pronounce the world at 8 initiated 10000 disciples change the course of all of India at 8 at 8 hero, turkey go to Columbia University commentaries on the Gita by this person who at age eight walked away from his mother and said I'm I'm leaving for the forest it. It's unbelievable change the course of all of India at 8 at 8 hero, tears you go to Columbia University, Tarzan the Gita by this person who at age eight walked away from his mother and said I'm I'm leaving for the forest

somebody sent me why would I tell you how much everything is going to cost Trump the personality overshadowed everything else his personality overshadowed all the shortcomings so because of the fact that he could say things like when he's talking about China you know you could go to China and you've received a video which one was that explains the China or you could say listen motherfukers think about who Obama was right Obama this like articulate Statesman who you were proud that that was the representative of America spoke so well you so measured so educated Donald Trump is not that do you feel that some American people since Obama was like that felt like he was speaking down to them for sure okay I don't either but some people get upset about that he doesn't speak his mind he doesn't say what he wants to say I don't like him because he's a liberal to some people don't like that cuz he's black to some people that don't like him because he's young some people don't like him cuz he went to Harvard. Listen to this illicit play this cuz this is one of my favorite Trump speeches and somebody that is really the messenger the messenger is important I could have one man saying when did attached to 25% and I could say another listen to motherfukers he's dumb he's not dumb he's just not concentrating on the things that intelligent people concentrate on the great literary Works he's talking about not talk about great philosophers are great historians these are not things he's concentrating on his whole life he has a sharp mine but his whole life he's been caught trading on Donald Trump and Donald Trump kicking ass and Donald Trump's name and Donald Trump's ego and feeling that ego and cheating at golf and doing all the things that he wants to do whatever he wants to do that's be concentrating on it doesn't mean that he's dumb and that's what people get distracted that they get confused I agree with you on that but but I what I'm surprised about what I'm surprised about is some people believe he's doing things for the country's best interest not for his own well he's definitely do things for his best interest and also probably doing things that he thinks are for the country's best interest as well I don't think all of what he's doing is just for him cuz you wouldn't be president if you did that doesn't make any sense cuz the beating that you take in terms of light well that's also your ego boost 73 years old right when you're that old you don't change you know you're not going I mean that the way you runs companies to expect him to do any different once it became president it's kind of silly but that's how he's become successful I mean that's why it's f****** name is on his giant buildings all over the world right it's like it's this ego thing and the way he does business I'm the f****** bought listen you motherfukers going to 25% that's his attitude. attempt to do any different once he became president is kind of silly but that's how he's become successful I mean that's why is f****** name is on his giant buildings all over the world right it's like it's this ego thing and the way he does business on the f****** boss listen you motherfukers been attached to 25% that's his attitude that's just thought

if you if you are convicted going to jail son and that's just a New York he still has to get tried out here that's just one have you seen how much he is aged in the last month like me and my wife were watching them on the news last night we go a couple years I told my wife that because you're going to die in jail when he's probably depressed so deeply imagine going from being the toast of the Town posing with Oprah top of the world doing the red-carpet everybody loves you everybody thanks you when they get their Academy Award committee overseeing the compilation of all the stars thinking Harvey without him accuse him later of being a monster but meanwhile they're just praising it don't you I don't know I guess. But it ain't about this yesterday I once was and I were talking about this yesterday we were on the podcast we're talking about like how much I'm so happy I don't have to go on a ditions and I don't act and I'm not I don't want to be a part of that anymore does one of them when people think a guy why is everybody Hollywood so fake because they're all trying to get cast in something is true they're all trying to get accepted by producers and casting directors and and Executives and so they're all just hedging their bets like planted like a guy on the first date just a b******* artist just to look up f****** slick guy with loose morals and a first date trying real hard as it was just him getting arrested and how long ago was that was his f****** Walker looking perfect when you like if someone's I guess if you because him and he can run away if you mess with any kids old video apparently. So he doesn't look like that anymore that's probably two or three years ago I told him he looks that was one of things that the court artist there was an artist that Drew him throughout the case and she was saying that you could see his deterioration is physical deterioration over the course of the trial have you seen him lately he looks 20 I wonder if that Walker shoots real you think it was I don't think it's real but I think it became real that's right I think we're old let's play it for the court and then he just got so broken down through the process what she deserved and it just took a toll on a man like Adam the video you just showed us like two years old May 2018 until now has lost most of his hair looks so old and tired from not getting any sleep his f****** beating man and he was on top of the world if if there is karma right if karma is real that's the karma cuz this guy was on the top of the world but he was like forcing everyone. Karma saying do you want to suck my dick don't want to I don't want to hurt you like he would lose money based on how many different counts of sexual harassment he has they were negotiating depended upon him being a predator like they kind of knew what would you mean kind of if they are also liable here oh my thing is one of the agents going to jail the ones that kept sending all the actresses to the guy then when the new the new can say hey Harvey Weinstein raped me and then the agency says listen do you want this job or not like those those people those people but if you're an agent and you've known Harvey Weinstein for for 5 years or 10 years and you know he's been doing this but yet you continue to sin actresses right to this guy just a pig and you trying to talk those girls into willingly having sex with him which many did or did they think it was a rapist because he was both of those things apparently he was a guy who had sex with girls who were willing to hold themselves out to be in movies and he also forced himself on women who did not want to have anything to do with him so we had both of those things were going on but you don't think that agencies that were sending all these big actresses in they didn't know they knew the boat types some girls willing and some girls are saying there rape you don't think question you don't think any actress ever went back to the agent I'm never going in again I got raped and then that and then that agent was like alright I'm not going to send you anymore but hey over here go in the Harvey well I like the way you negotiating here because the way you're saying it doesn't give a person now you're saying you don't think cuz no one saying that they don't think that. No one's arguing that they don't think that's you said you don't think that so you learn from that book yes very clever what I would say is if there's a high likelihood that they at least suspected he had forced himself on some women and there was probably some rumors there was 100% likelihood they knew it was a pig there was a high likelihood that there was some stories about some things that he had did that were probably criminal High likelihood I don't know how many people are privy to those stories I don't know how deep it got in whether it mean like if you're an agent did you actually get to send to Harvey Weinstein how many you know I don't know I'm sure I'm sure whoever he wanted to see right but I don't know what that number is I don't know how much they actually knew we can be pretty sure of it this point is is no way all these women are not oh no I believe look icing made in advancement on Gwyneth Paltrow and Brad Pitt confronted and said I'll f****** kill you you do that again this is the thing Brad Pitt new Brad Pitt knows and he's one of the 1995 and he told him if you ever make her feel uncomfortable again I'll kill you but this isn't a joke this is a 1995 25 years ago bro so you're telling me that these agents in the industry we are I didn't even know the guy for the I heard the story but this would it said is that he touched her inappropriately invited her to his bedroom she told her then-boyfriend Brad Pitt about it see that's what I think most people hurt and that's gross older than boyfriend Brad Pitt about it see that's what I think most people would hurt and that's gross it's not great sea that I think most people knew about that s*** and Brad Pitt was willing to kill him over that which I love

where was that special that I saw of you that you have a special oh yeah yeah it's Amazon Prime that's what it's called is copulation what's crazy is it came out about 8 months last time I was on here but they just released it on DVD so my mom thinks I made it last week on DVD who buys DVDs in comedy Dynamics was like yeah company wanted to put it out so I was like all right cool but the main thing is imma be in New York I got this new tour new material I'm exhausted that's what it's called to talk about my two kids the family all the things going on in the world and I'm at Gotham Comedy Club March 7th and 8th I am I am you put the wrong date on the f****** by oh my goodness I'm an idiot on the largest podcast in the world this special that's on Amazon like why do they release it now on DVD they said, I guess there's a DVD company that invest in a couple specials a year if for some reason they vested in mind and thought I could do well so and I was like who buys DVDs and where's that though Rural America America has internet if you have a satellite the people of satellite you can't really stream Netflix to stuff a satellite unless you have a really good satellite right now like no they don't know yet they got rid of that please set Netflix DVD. Commerce DVD. Netflix.com that's crazy the deposit when he's flexing nobody nobody ever finished at the movie at the most watched a movie with a vibrator have you hardly 212 million DVD Blu-ray and rentals account for 1.3.1 .34% of Netflix Revenue wow that's just Netflix just noticed that's his real quick in the middle of the country you can get satellite internet when the upload is terrible but the download now everybody has good internet good internet fix that problem with seeing UFOs just evil on satellites what is

I know you've begun aliens I just don't believe me we talked about this I believe this other life forms to study small mammals in the Congo do you know that they spend giant chunks of their life to go look at butterflies new frog in South America and the national Geographic Society will give the money with the document this frog people are curious and anything that's going to be intelligent and Innovative anything's going to invent technology the only reason why you invent Technologies because you are curious and if you are curious you're not going to stop being curious you going to continue to be curious and if you have a f****** whole planet filled with predatory Apes that have thermonuclear weapons and they want to control various patches of land they've designated on map for the line they put stupid f****** fences up and they nuke each other and they f****** fly planes and drop bombs out and they have other planes that they f****** operate remotely with these little joysticks and drop bombs on people we kill terrorists and some of the people that run the country are terrorists and and then you have for the stock market like what the f*** are these people doing the stock market's what is that a bunch of numbers go through the air and it reaches their phone on the other side of the world instantaneously like woah this is really heavy stuff he's f****** crazy monkeys down on planet Earth are weird we should study them of course they would study us there were rockets and we're invading other other planets in our solar system to try to colonize if they're coming here. Best basic to them they have to have technology we haven't even know they don't know the Active technology that's slightly more advanced than us we will be able to unquestionably travel to other planets within a hundred years or 200 years let's say 3 317 20 long so it's like we went back in time to visit people in the 1700 will be fascinated and we'd be very interested and we found a planet somewhere 300 years now that I people on that planet live like people lived here in the 1700 we would be blown away I think it's the most unique and interesting thing we've ever found ever in life I just don't know what everyone having a cell phone can take footage why don't they have like why don't multiple people have the same footage of the same thing like it had they do there are some sightings particular the Phoenix Lights that happened in the 90s that many many people captured I don't know exactly what they are they don't know what is a lot of people captured these lights are in the sky my take on the Phoenix Lights in a lot of these things is usually that there's some sort of a military aircraft are working. But here's the thing they don't have to visit all the time if they only visited once or twice these unique experiences that have happened once or twice over the course of human history or three times or 10 times or a hundred times what are the odds of anyone's going to capture it especially if they're smart about it so I should be smart about how they come specially if they have some sort of cloaking apparatus are they have some ability to understand when they're not they're being viewed observed and don't knowing how to hide I had a camouflage the ships but of course it would be interested I know that's the least plausible scenario that they wouldn't be interested in us the thing that kind of the thing that was interested in me when you interview to know his he's been through everything anytime No Heaven no evidence hundreds of years and deeply diving into the subject of UFOs and has access to not only that like what does he have access to is that access to the NSA files and like everything's compartmentalised you know that's one of the big problems with the military said they NASA does not have access to what the Navy has access to which doesn't have access to what the Army has access to like they don't always cooperate and just fill for him to say that he didn't find anything about UFOs that make sense like he probably even looked a little bit and finally about UFOs that doesn't mean there's nothing about UFOs that just means that he didn't find anything okay there when you think about one person that's going to scour all the government recce understand the 1950s to present about what they've discovered and what they haven't so you so Area 51 what do you think it's in their secret military projects crafts and that's where the Blackbird came out of this with a stealth bomber came out of there was a lot of that stuff that a lot of people mistook for UFOs I think the real question lies in the very small percentage of unexplained sightings so if you look at UFO sightings you take the pie of UFO sightings I would say they're not me they say what they're talking about that's been solved to someone in the neighborhood of 95% of those 95% can be explained by swamp. ball lightning ball light needs a phenomenon that comes when depending upon tectonic pressure the Earth can release this lightning that have the ground that travels in a ball shape pattern and Zig through the sky and then vanishes and disappears they don't totally understand how it's being created but they do know it requires some pressure in the earth something about tectonic plates and possibly different atmospheric conditions but it's a real observable phenomenon that actually occurred on plane like it's flown down the down the passageway of a jet at one point in time people are multiple people observed as ball lightning and they thought they were being boarded by a f****** UFO or something it's a weird even ever seen it it's very weird phenomena because they have observed that's really fascinating that's that's responsible for a lot of UFO sighting what you said there's that 5% that can't be explained that 5% 4% they just haven't figured out how we see this is ball lightning okay having this guy but they move around so lightning crackles and then this thing will hover in the sky and then sometimes they actually come out of the ground you know this is Pierson probably but it's almost like an ash you know when uses a bad video see if there's you know I understand all this other people talking in it there's different videos with ball lightning in a watch is pretty interesting s*** man Balinese weird because it's like they're it's okay Lowe's of it and it looks like a ball flying through the sky are atmospheric occurrence if I was an alien species 500 years more advanced than we are I would be f****** fascinated by Earth and that's all you need five hundred years from now with the exponential growth of Technology like we're experiencing on Earth now if we don't blow ourselves up or if they're different than us like maybe they evolve different and they don't have the same battle for resources so they didn't develop the kind of territorial behavior that Apes have if they develop something more complex in a different sort of Cooperative evolutionary mechanism they could be very different than us but still way more advanced but interested in us all right I will you ever see one in your lifetime Advanced but interested in us all right I will you ever see one in your lifetime

girl getting butt cancer now fake butts butt cancer the one I was watching the clip off a box the other day this girl had a fake butt and they were just trying to fix it and it's just this disaster this poor lady just like the surface of the Moon just dented in f***** up and you know what it is free every generation or are even Century you can go back to the old days where the most of the the body that's hardest to get is the most popular body Kings were fat because they had a lot of food but they wanted to be fat because it showed a sign of money yes and then it was I believe the fifties was all about real thin no but no boobs just Rail and then because that was hard to obtain because most people now the Kardashians it takes money I guess for a lot of women to achieve that and money and money the amount of money where you don't have the disposable income to do it so not a lot of people can do it so it seems like the most popular body for women is the body's the hardest to obtain it's never like a normal body is beautiful it's always like no we need very large but what's also what you see and media right really good to be rail-thin because they saw models because designers clothing clothing designers like models to be real thin because then they like a hanger like there's no weird big tits and big ass that make it work clothing not stand out there just about the hanger but what changed because it's still like that as far as my social media social media girls online I had a problem with the other day my nine-year-old we're at a restaurant this lady walked by and my nine-year-old she pulls at me she was Daddy she's got diaper butt cuz that's what I call it a cloth diaper but when those girls get fake butts cuz it looks like to wear a full diaper but he doesn't fit your legs is just walking around waiting to get home a mess but you're right though it's the unobtainable difficult to obtain it's also completely exaggerated right like giant tits small waist enormous ass cuz it doesn't work that I can't I was thinking like magic guys did have like big dick implants and that they were all I ever got was Benedict stretched out with guys can't have even toupees that's guys can have like if a guy has like fake eyebrows girls like a guy with fake lips men in the gay community to do it though will they do with the okay lip injections they're doing the same thing that a lot of women are doing but it's just the lips are weird because I think people saw that it's worked and no one cared like obviously you see a lot of girls with fake tits and no one seems to mind and guys think it's kind of hot they did my the first like three or four like the internet got it but like it's a wigs for men or like that's gone viral online a few times in the last few months and then gluing on I have seen the house what do that must be no it's like next level that's amazing before after before before that body so there's a Sarah and says before Arrow there's ones that the person is completely bald and it looks like that after they're done I seen the ones with black dudes I've seen black dude get that and it's real weird like they Jesus yeah working on the clue is that app that guys want to that's so weird weird and interesting growing hair back through steps you have to have the hair to grow back if you have a little then you can that's going to like that because people weren't online or just didn't go viral and that way it's snuck back in and people go to this brand-new thing and it's like it's not new at all I didn't even know I don't even know women had to take care of some of the LA do weaves I didn't know you knew nothing about it so for a girl out here when I first moved here I went out like you know she was in a bad and I went out to the living room and I thought it was an animal am I download poke it was her hair like I didn't know that they did that end then I started working for eat they had a wall full of hair for all the girls a Wallflower hair so they would like four different girls they would have had to tell her that Master hair grow a hair and I never saw that and I was just shocked that it went to that the great I didn't even know that happened until you have a common thing the weave with the common thing the weave with the I don't think you know what that time I don't know but I think it's more of a TV thing

something that we always up against is the months that the people of got into about aging that they needed to get into full these Millennia that we have been unable to do anything about it but not think about it and get on with your miserable short life and I make the best of it right and across the way we can do that is by somehow denying oneself into denying that this is such a big deal by pretending it's not really like a medical problem at all that's what we paid attention to what the kite has the forever will it be boring and you know which I have to spend my whole life contending with how do you say when I get over the dictators living forever one Johnny come on when I leave the percentage of dictators versus the percentage of regular people is so incredibly small to not cure aging because of dictator seems like the dumbest idea ever now the inevitable like it though it's fine that's wonderful I'm looking forward to it it's it's essentially a disease that we all get cooling agent disease is a bit different from my house more comfortable with it I tend to feel that the problem is a problem with which is that it makes it sound like it could be cured with therapy and you know the reason why that's important is that it determines what kind of what kind of medicine we look for a lot of outside brother said we're right by the what diseases used to broadly contribute Naruto it's not to include things like Alzheimer's that actually about the basic difference between the progressive chronic conditions like outside what would you call aging if you don't call this is what I call a medical problem of potential future treatments stem cells seem to be very promising are there are there other competing treatments that you think are equally promising or so a bunch of different types of damage all of which we need to fix then we need to look at the I will fix it available for each individual type so what stem cell the last fix is so lost without it dying and then replaced in the body by television Elektra Beijing is that because Progressive because it's only because it's functional decline after a certain point does it right off that when I would have to keep in mind in time to time therapy between how badly one needs it and how rapidly the quality of the therapy is improving so you know if I open now start to need a bit more but it would have benefited from 10 years of research let's do a different thing to fix a different type of damage and I believe they accumulation of 85 South a bunch of different things we have to do that there's been no real change over the past 20 years in our understanding of what the problem is no real need to change preferred approach S2 Technologies found bad news that says OD of this potential approach to fixing this particular type of damage if I'm going to wear for this new reason that we didn't know before that's what we have to start again and think of anyone that hasn't happened to either

you have the same optimistic perception about the ocean optimism because I know that you are not doing it but I know a lot of people when they talk to me and call me an optimist optimist storing lot of carbon and releasing a lot that it's pulling up so we have to fix that as well but it's part of the same problem I've had boy Onslaught on a couple times can you wear of him doing his devices that he's created to remove Plastics and other garbage from the ocean might my concern is Wildfish the depletion of the fish populations is at an unprecedented rate and it seems to be there somewhere in the neighborhood of fifty years away from a catastrophic complete collapse of wild Fisheries how to connect artificial red Mate1 up make artificial fish that wouldn't that would be good that we can have artificial tears but that wouldn't necessarily make that population rebound we would have to make large steps to try to bring back the the equilibrium of the ocean I mean applications of population of specific fish fish species fishing to make this artificial fish or don't have the access to it or at least in the time. That it's going to take four Fisheries rebound as it did when I talk to people that have an understanding of wildlife in the ocean they say it's a desperate time and it's a desperate time that is not really being recognized by the general population because they can still get sushi they can still get halibut at the local market but that if you talk to the fishermen if you talk to the wildlife biologist that are really studying the levels he likes it this is nearing a point of no return we should be investing more in the development of new technologies that will - play with wild fish if they can make artificial meat and one or two people really get an artificial fish as well. people like the night I'm really optimistic about artificial meat I mean it seems that they're mean it one point I was like a quarter million dollars for a hamburger and now they've got it down to a point where you can actually make a an animal meat product that does not come from an animal die a very close to be able to make this mass-marketed way that's interesting you can actually make a an animal meat product that does not come from an animal dying their very close to be able to make this in mass-marketed way that's interesting about that I think that's very interesting

wow it's been 10 years really 2007 I moved out of La damn weird until recently 3 times appreciate it I appreciate you I appreciate you today I always thought truthfully I always thought Joe Rogan's going to do something good I honestly I can tell you that and it may be embarrassing to say but I'm proud of you can second thing besides stand up comedian the announcer want to be in the UFC even if I was good because you get pounded on it's a tough job right yeah let you know that I'll answer this kids fight their retired at 21 and rolling around with you the greatest memories of my time in LA is when Eddie opened 10th Planet yeah we had a lot of fun and it was such a special interesting time of Jiu-Jitsu I think that it was going to know no gay there's a demographic of Jiu-Jitsu guys who didn't want to be any more people wanted to learn things that would transition directly into MMA and to not have the clothes to grab onto it change the grips and Eddie was one of the very first to really truly concentrate I'm using wrestling grips cable grips over unders things along those lines and then the other people were still really cleaning to the gate he was like a and I think that I was attracted to about the ultimate fighting when I first saw I think the first one I saw with two in UFC 2 and I was like oh man this is any watch those Gracie and action videos and stuff is lackadaisical and I'd always have to tell the guys had do me a favor just try to slap me because this is getting a little unreal I don't want to I want a real life situation and I'm figuring okay I don't want to buy anything right now but I always felt like you no real practical fighting the guy may not be wearing a tuxedo I think both are good because like you live in New York New York gets cold if you get into a scuffle with someone I hope you never would do but if you did and he was jacking like you are as you could manipulate him with that jacket and they really probably wouldn't know what to do you know there's a real benefits like being a judo player if some has a winter coat on yeah are you had a fight with Karo parisyan to Ronda Rousey or something like that and they they're wearing a winter coat that f*** you up stop exploding out of things have to be very patient if to be if these correct technique and it was appreciation and it was one of my biggest Lamentations of moving away was not to be around that whole Posse and then I never expected it to get as big as it did I know it's unbelievable because back then it was like to see text to bring my my big kids were big now I used to bring them and they used to just box we used to do it at Legends know before that the bomb squad yeah that's 2,000 what to somewhere on that was cool I was running time I just got my purple was super excited and then Eddie just got his black he has brown eyes black super quick. Is brown and then he beat Oiler and then he goes black yeah I was there that day interesting error was an interesting error for us as humans was an interesting error for martial arts is a lot going on and that 10th planet was really a hub of exciting Innovation and still is but it mean back then it was this really unique things this completely noogie branch of Jiu-Jitsu this directly connected to John Jacque Machado which is a totally rigid always impressed with him to me still rolls man he's my age and he doesn't get injured like he might have like a little tweak here and every so intelligent and he's so Technical and it's just so good that was saying was only because I'm not there anymore but when I was going there is like this is such an amazing Place John Jacque Academy the quality of Fighters you would get there was also at a time where there was you have to be into it and go somewhere and could have that many black belts at a school that was like unheard of in hunger I was in his class one day and it was like 11 black belts was like this is crazy and it wasn't like that. No random roll black belt somewhere somewhere in Portland or something like that like I went I started with henzo in New York I went there the day that I met * got to purple. Wow that's crazy crazy gave me a crugen ghee wow that's legit that's one of the really nice things about Jiu-Jitsu that camaraderie in the Friendship it's like it's very different than I was compared to other martial arts in that the problem was striking martial arts is that you hurt each other all the time you never developed a sort of closeness that you do what you just said because you're always trying to kick each other's f****** heads off

we still never got to the bhagavad-gita sorry but we got turned I want to know why you think that that's real and what you think is going on in those stories wet first you got the dialogue of self which is cool wisdom for all people I am become death coloring sheet probably do Got Talent time that's a Sanskrit how did you say to me it looks like a creep preterito is that why am I am the Destroyer time I am the great destroyer and I've come to destroy all worlds translation in English because of an issue with the translation between English Rose different people translate let the different but it's it's similar meaning meaning in that particular section that you pulled out that was Krishna explaining like God is beautiful. As Charming as your best friend is also death personified so he's staying in that particular place I'm actually also the destroy of all the world's when we think of the Olga's explain it. Is everything both the Beauty and the destruction as well and so Krishna just sharing his attributes and in that particular chapter chapter 11 these is the most almost intimidating where do you think all these stories come from where do you what do you think the origin of the Bhagavad Gita of the Mahabharat of evolved the ancient tax what do you think the origin was what was the what was the motivation put the stuff down what was what was the original Concepts that led them to write this and where you're at all come from there has to be an origin of these these wisdom's right yeah what do you think that is enough to even answer the question I have to take myself out of Radu and just answer like a yoga teacher and crackers that to answer of what do you think it's one thing trained not to do in s far as what is your personal opinion I give you my personal opinion but I have to separate it from what the stories both will give me a personal opinion is I hear what the stories have to offer I find some value in the stories and I try to apply wisdom to my life it helps the direction of my life it helps me escape pod transmitted as certain time historically they understood people are getting Dumber do we have a tendency to think we're at the Pinnacle of evolution but The Vedic teachings is at as we go on in this age we get more more disconnected there was a time where architecture was more evolved for the Sciences were more evolved wearing Stop The Sciences were more evolved like the building of these has which one we read them mythological even Weaponry Weaponry they say we're done with sound if you start at there's one book on the Donner okay but do you think this is real I think it could be that use sound could could why not was no evidence archaeological evidence that there was a flying craft or is it grimsever any technology that allowed people to leave gravity yeah there's sometimes there may not be evidence just like this with him and his woman with two people psychosis with him and his wife I can say that there are things that make no sense to me get I swear to try them anyway and then after time they made sense like oh wait a second that does make sense or a different Vantage points in my life it didn't make sense when it's 20 but at 50 that makes a lot of sense so there's certain things that are huge leap to Faith that I can't say menosense mineral sense but over time I realize after that helps in this particular meditation and general right achieve certain States Of Consciousness and you can actually with fmri can actually monitor the changes in the way the brain is she this why I like about you you're one of those guys get into these very interesting like subtle sciences and then he finds like hard evidence James Wilkin breaking all these things down I'm more of a simple or guy I find people were a trust the way they live and if applied stuff and walk the it's more like I can tell time but I don't know how to take apart and put back together but then you see all the gears behind a watch like a self-winding watch me like I don't know what the f*** is happening here I'm like that with a lot of things and I'm always impressed when you dig into it with people like this but truthfully if you want to be honest truth I was like no man I've taken to it maybe cuz I'm not that kind of hard Science Guy if people what do you think right like the stuff that you liked about me fighting was endurance flexibility I give all the credit that to yoga you did at the time of people that you you had crazy cardio and your cardio was you never did cardio you just didn't really good endurance and my cardio is even better at once on day 17 of a 21-day fast wow they 17 and I remember fighting what to class and we're all tank more like I just kept on going and he's like man what is up with you I was like I don't know I haven't eaten solid food in 17 days so it's not like I'm a genius it's just that these are sort of like yoga fasting deep breathing I just been doing them yet I'm sure there's people that can give you the modern take on what the benefits are and that's not what I'm asking you what I'm asking is why you believe the bhagavad-gita is real my point is there's reasonable amounts of faith in these other things that have applied that it made me take a next step to whether I believe it's real I just split the truth so I can extract from a real whether the war actually happened there's a leap of faith benefits of those of the following those scriptures you apply and you you feel those benefits of so that's enough that's enough to make me move forward toward your free sample the idea of faith and especially in America the Blind Faith but if I saw you walking in downtown the other way you saw me you're driving your Porsche and you saw me walking in Manhattan and how do you get to Times Square and the first step is I could lie to you people lie all the time when you asked him for directions but you have some reasonable faith I know him he's a friend why would he give me the address and so there's a reasonable amount of Faith but even still people getting to the Egos and they just want to be the nowhere of directions but I say you don't have to 14th Street and you're going to see a McDonald's you take a right and you going to go down all the way to whatever care anymore Union Square and take a left and then a hard left so again you have some type of extended Faith towards me not Blind Faith but you'd go to 14th Street and there's that McDonald's as you go to next signpost you realize maybe he doesn't always going then you go farther there's Union Square okay I think he actually knows what what's going on and also send you see the Times Square in the distance so Faith isn't just like I believe if anyone was to say I believe this I believe in these Vimana I believe in Monsters to question them but it happens with small degrees of of things being shown to you that you want to take it what's the next step here what I say about this where they say about that and then you apply and see what does that work with me and like I said sometimes things didn't make sense I remember when I first met monks and they said a question about I was 17 I was like you want sex with your wife crazy now I am we do other things and I just couldn't understand that is a 17 year old boy for 18 year old boy and he said what do you do for fun and that he goes but it was where this person was one of his path of a really controlling the senses and finding his pleasure internally at different at time of my life it made no sense whatsoever the applying the stuff whether or not you break it down scientifically and objectively and try to analyze each and every word and whatever the translation is you actually apply those truths are quotes to your life and have real benefits yeah it could all these things we talked about like life on other planets and Aliens they all are very much explain or here's another good one one of these spiritual path have in common weren't we train ourselves to find the differences and all of them and the date of teaching don't you understand you should be able to walk into a moth into a church into a synagogue and say how nice these people trying to connect not that we got to win these people over to our team cuz they're all an illusion and they're all going to hell forever everyone's on his type of path and I appreciate them trying to surrender in the only thing that's going to get in their way cuz people say things like this all the time religion that caused all the problems in this world and particular that we have it our way and everybody else their problem and we got to fix it that's what gets in the way because you could say materialism causes lots of problems as well in the world so I don't think it's that the Eagles sneaky and sneak into your diet and sneak into your God it'll sneak in and that's why there's an appreciation instead of a instead of condemnation people that are different than us so I don't think it's that the Eagles sneaky it'll sneak into your diet will sneak into your God will sneak in and that's why there's an appreciation instead of a instead of condemnation people that are different than us

well I'm optimistic because you're optimistic when you tell me three to five years from now we're possibly looking at some sort of a breakthrough where things start moving into the public eye where people really take into consideration like this is this is real technology that you should we should all start implementing on are particularly on people that are older and ailing or right at the moment the most challenging areas are still at another stage so that's why I only do they have to individually guys you know it's all the way through clinical trial for life but also combined the beautiful people don't have any congenital problems I think I can get a lot of s*** done I learned about myself you know people I think it's I think it's I think it makes no sense to think about what one's going to be doing in the distance questions just one more time to go off at what time do you want to go to the toilet next Sunday the toilet is completely crazy so you're going to have better information on the topic near the time and you're going to be able to act on that information and also the idea of how long you want to live is going to be irrelevant if they can repair disease and fix all these issues it's just going to be the quality of life even if they can repair disease and fix all these issues it's just going to be the quality of life rating

do you think one of the motivating factors will be the price of healthcare that the argument would be part of our issue with Healthcare in the an incredible amount of money that needs to be spent on hospitalized hospitalizing Peaceable people in treating them with diseases we could eliminate that the immediate knee-jerk reaction is always a God we definitely don't want to fix that how would we pay the pension right if they going to be stupid in England where they have socialized medicine the enormous cost of that would be decreased radically it is more healthy it's it's got nothing to do with private with socialized medicine but actually I don't even minority of the economic benefit the real economic benefit comes from the indirect costs first of all the Father the kids will be out of there going to be more productive cuz I'm not having to spend time looking up with a sick parent anything to do with the retirement age this comes back to another aspect of the interaction between emerging Technologies so close we could Look At Me by Phil full employment you know last time that happened during the Industrial Revolution we got away with it by inventing Antonio sector sector that reply to all the job that people didn't have anymore in manufacturing and agriculture Emily Blunt instrument starting point but you know that kind of thing is going to have to happen I can totally imagine the situation in which year from now it's something like Global times about the health benefits of the benefits of the concept of work is sort of inexorably connected to society to the point we think you have to work but you know me while people live for hundreds of thousands of years without even the concept of that and I got a place where you go where they give you gold coins boots Canal rides at 8 of course you do have to have something that makes saying fulfills something to do you find fulfilling for Universal basic income right the argument against it is human nature that people need to be motivated and they need something to sort of guide them towards excellence and my check is and I don't agree with you or anybody who's been exposed to interesting things there are so many things in this world I mean if I had I would love to live five different lives concurrently I would love to have to plan I would I would I would love to I'm it would be really interesting to take up a whole new career at 70 you know and so this 325 your timeline what would makes you think that 325 years from now is when all this stuff will take place how soon are we going to be able to take my tattoo in the hockey ass and do nothing whatsoever to them until they are right I believe that would be sufficient anyway that's actually a little bit conservative I think I less dramatic brighter than that might be enough to switch most of my colleagues I've ever not gotten over the fence but I think that would definitely be enough

research done with my Sith myostatin Inhibitors did that not increase lifespan as well but yeah sure a lot of things have extended extended lifespan of fabrics but we have at the moment is not all the component of what I just said if you do something faceing math the best we can do it baby 4 months so that's the difference you going to be able to start light and get the bag. through some sort of biologics well yeah through the bacterial enzymes that can break down and it is the exploitation of a bacterial mechanism that allows bacteria to defend themselves against viruses is that it allows us to change the sequence of a gene in a particular cell it's very expensive and very clunky 40.88 to inactivate the initially the technology wish to Arabic ride it was trying to do what what do sharks have called genetic vandalism and have what could off Target if I had another was basically do other changes to the house where they didn't want no you can't do everything with crispr one thing you're definitely country with crispr is insert new genes into the Gino and that's something we need to be able to do but actually one of our big projects it is a kind of two-step thing while we use crispr to make a small change to the gene that allows us to that's they have done some work in China apparently on live human being so this was very controversial what happened was that a group in China use crispr to alter the DNA of embryos for IVF F5 into a mutant form that doesn't work but fat in an inactive form protect the body from infection by HIV end navigation gets people excited about it yeah but yeah so anyway the other thing was that why it's even worthwhile to make an embryo to resistant to HIV when I hear about something like that always assumed first of all I mean just American Prejudice tieu Su minutes in China that doing something crazy right and you also assume that if they're telling you about someone has been altered that means that they're probably doing this for a decade or since Christopher was initiated initiated eight years ago you never know I don't want them to do it on people but when they do do it on people and fascinators I don't know what that's why I mean that's the attitude that I have I don't know if it will have to medical tourism in general the some information exists about the advocacy and safety of these treatment Tuscaloosa AL everyone who who who indulges I'll show up blessings should be shut down as much as we can and personally I've had my family my mother has gone to Panama twice and she was on the verge of a knee replacement and now she walks without pain I bet you I bet you went to I don't know unless someone was placement so that when I sent it down there and it took G she's fifty-two she's 73 so it took her somewhere around six to eight months for start feeling anything she was really worried that it was going to work but then at 8 months and just the pain just went away and it's continue to get better and I sent her down a second time and I'm going to keep sending her down there so it's out a pretty profound effect what was fascinating to me as they do three days of intravenous therapy and the interview therapy has I don't know if it's just my imagination but she looks younger like she looks she looks more vibrant you know like when I saw her she came to my house for Christmas why she looked better she looked a year younger than she did the last time I saw this is what we would hope one that was affected by us only a few people benefit is Dallas must himself therapist and not that far along so every time anyone gets treated right now it's still an experiment and that's okay that have to know who to actually not just you know live off the stories of of high-profile people got good benefits and talk about but actually two goalies the day release the full. always have to worry about is cancer because activators between Cancer and everything else in other words what is wrong with in life we actually do not truly have in the buddy but which are not as active in older people if they are younger people and so close we have to ask why are they last active on a lot of folic acid make myself believe that a huge party is attractive in other words that is recognized kind of kept checking her not to become properly cancerous or more importantly of the cells that are put in signs that you are improving regenerative capacity weather of the Fells that you put in or more importantly of the cells that are nearby the salty put in you are potentially taking the risk of hastening the onset of actual cancer

what is your opinion on the benefits of fasting in that regard okay country without you putting a lot of minimizing how many calories you put in then you have a chance of starting the countdown to the therapist might have a better job that suddenly being found something about reproducible and Beth study phenomenon in the biology of Aging still there mysteries about how it works cold calorie restriction midnight X and you know that's good that's that's different schedules of being good for your house but in terms of increasing your longevity by 30 or 40% the way they do play she's got less benefits from fasting and short-lived spaceship you know that's why is it a bit controversial studies done really long expensive but it's not normal fasting with human beings you think is it's interesting it's something but it's not going to mimic these biologics and what what you believe is on the rise. you know you definitely see people getting sick less

terms of progress like what what has to happen for there to be a shift in the the biological age of people where you can actually reverse it or we can actually maintain the position they're at now for extended periods of time. Will let me watch that love Pazzo the result of exactly at the same speed that the damage is being like that which is ridiculous so since the beginning Foundation my organization has focused on the most challenging the most difficult type of damage because philanthropy the news about the Flies it's not competing with a lot of other people who have their own ideas about what to do and if the people who are deciding who wins that competition I'm not end up having to emphasize really boring low-hanging fruit funding things that don't lead to high-profile Publications soon Cutting Edge Veterinary stuff but the magnet Shades artist is real talking that's what's frustrating to you about the state of understanding repair and understanding the the ability to fix things this is how to deal with that improve so much over the years so I started putting out the idea that this was the way to go after aging 20 years ago chiropractor taken properly seriously by my colleagues in the scientific community and that has been no respect as well so what you and I spoke last five years ago really that was the end of the story I pretty much run the scientific arguments but still no that this is the next big thing that we will actually have fun with ID genuine Rejuvenation medicine in the foreseeable future drugs that selectively kill Waco senescent cells today the cells that hang out in the body in a bad site where they doing more harm than good. money is better spent doing the stuff that's still at an idea stage and beyond that you know we are able to even for things that are a couple of years behind that for another year or two what other companies now that I work with cuz that's not spinach from my Foundation but they doing closely aligned work and so I'm spending a week on average Foundation but they are y'all doing closely aligned work and so I'm spending the entire week on average just making introduction between you and

is this something you still truly enjoy doing I really feel you know if I was a young kid I have wanted to spend my life making a difference to the world improving the quality and quantity of Life of humanity and I've got teenager having pretty much decided that this is what I want to do with my life the first thing I did was I got into a special intelligence particularly everybody she was an angel Tabasco and by accident you're not going to let any fundamental truths about the universe from studying to Chi but but but it's bad for you but that's not my problem Sullivan and I happened to have invited myself into a position with what you filled with something I was able to do I had a very undemanding job at the University of Cambridge Enos. Pay my way to go to conferences going to go stop them nobody needed me and I wasn't being blessed don't be crazy and it took a little while for people to come around so when you when you say that an early age you felt compelled to try to help people like what what was that it was all down to my mother's for me to practice the piano poop some however my mother had already and still in me a sense of introspection understand why I thought what I thought I actually decided to think about why I didn't want to play the piano because they were already so I would not be you know contributing significantly to the quality of life of mankind by becoming another one that I wanted to make a difference and that's how I know by the time I was out of your future you know it nine years old recognize that you're not going to make a significant contribution to the World by doing something other people I've already done I started working actually out that bioinformatics project that I mentioned I came I had a lot of exposure to a lot of top-flight biologist and fashionable would be is going on here why are these small people choosing to do something that minimizes the likelihood that will have any impact another words whatever they whatever they find out so you've always felt compelled to make a difference is that something your mother and still in use or something you just had a baby I don't I don't really think my mother instilled in me I have no idea but when you look back at that now that's going to be an interesting course where you you recognized at a very young age that you wanted to make some sort of a difference but that didn't knowing that you would have that Epiphany at a young age when it comes to like being a penis or doing something that's going to significantly impact people it is not a standard path that many people are gone that's it it's a very interesting way to set up your life well I wouldn't say is that my life up I sat outside and tension but if we look at how I got from there to here so if you have been able to reach the Pinnacle of my child from Philippines Abba you know how anyone can say that you fit the part 2 you're a weirdo you know I mean I'm always instinctively looking for ways to do things that other people might have a lot do you understand that I am really sympathetic to email but that doesn't mean that anything of benefit it's a very strange thing where people put on intellectual blinders they're talking about aging and dying it is very weird have you have had heated discussions with other intellectuals about this because I would imagine all the time my first year 1982 stage hypnotists that stuck in my mind was that is the cookie cross because what happens if the guy gives a completely unhesitating Lucid grammatically correct explanation for why I couldn't do it and the explanation of course we'll have a hole in it besides him, but the fact is Bowling Green Ohio to have these discussions with people about aging and side to find out that people make the unbelievable arguments in favor of it

think about overpopulation 1 things that you should take into consideration is that as populations increase in places urbanized the actual birth rate goes down to the point where a place is like Japan is actually concerned that they're not having enough children Africa China's because of the one-child policy which of course I have not discontinued precisely because of problems like that other countries were little 500 years old how will people be okay so here is his a really important when we think about longevity one question is how was well actually be on the second question is how well people in the Nets and expect the world to be the reason why those two questions yeah but won't actually be any 500 Arrow paper for another 400 years so I don't rely the general manager straight starts to realize that the probably going to live a long time because they're not going to just got progressively sicker as I got older and pension plans very different life insurance health insurance play critical to estimate and to communicate the estimate of how soon that shift in public expectation is going to a car which means could easily happen in the next 3 to 5 years and but when it does happen it's going to happen incredibly suddenly that I think it's going to happen we're going to have sufficient progress in the DeBarge family or the clinic that most of my scientific colleagues are going to be willing to come out and say more Lafayette over to grab it right all along you know about that I'm going to hear that being said and written in the media and the going to say this is actually going to happen and I'm going to slice. do this phenomenon then we do kind of have a bit of a moral obligation to make it less time if we can't tell my fans is that once that happened the following day it's going to be and everyone's going to know it like the way the public is going to make that switch I just actually expectation black at once so it's going to be ridiculous once it happened and the first step is going to be that shift in what my colleagues in the community feel able to say on camera amount of progress is going to be required for that to occur one reason why my colleagues don't already said what I say is funding the fact that I don't like me those people Reliant for most of the money that drives our Sac on Fairview government money government grants and the two accused of irresponsible things for the media things that get people's hopes up unduly but this hardly at the end of the ceremony so I have to be really pretty, even though that is probably the person out of my colleagues who put as much as possible out of people who have regular faculty position no, actually it's not very much you know there's a balance between on the one hand not saying things that could be characterized as a responsible when they were already in middle-aged and refusing to get to the point where this is undeniable this is peer reviewed proven established science and also implementable this is something that can be at scale distributed worldwide yeah things going to get real weird thing in humans it is a really really polarizing subject I mean it is funny how what you're saying bring so true that academics and intellectuals have to be cautious about talking about even what is potentially possible even though in private they probably are more than aware that there's just a few steps to go before this stuff gets into my tendon we see relief katestraat me really spectacular changes that Pandora's Box gets opened then people are going to be looking to establish clinics everywhere and it's it could be change even if even if even if a lot of these things are not yet available for clinical you still at the beginning of the clinical trial price for 15 years away from The Real McCoy you know that will still be enough so true and prepared for this change in public expectation of how long they're going to live one day will be a gigantic public issue in terms of elected representatives that they they're going to need to have some sort of an anti-aging policy situation public issue in terms of elected representatives that they are going to need to have some sort of an anti-aging policy situation normal so this will be ridiculous

about being in a trap concert Busta Rhymes and is all white folks and I'm there and he goes all my real n***** make some noise everybody made noise, just like me and like a few other black people like I was like yo maybe maybe they didn't hear it but everything twice tonight I'll call you Niger for 10:10 dollars Niger sale Niger Clarence cash only cuz I know how you n***** all right so proud of this bit at the end of the show I'm selling my dumb DVDs you know and never be a white person always come up to me and give me $20 and call me Nick and then I would have been funny if I cuz I kept the money you know December call me whatever y'all want for $20

and I'm walking around it for about six and a half years and it was a great time in life and I traveled all over the world but it was that place after after being very materially frustrated and I said those two main factors were some type of material success I wasn't the Beatles when I wasn't email Michael Jackson but I had some interest I had fans and then realizing how life can get taken away from you in a moment with with with that precarious place my father was at it just made me start thinking what the hell am I doing the short short life what am I supposed to do give me some yes give me some where do I go from here what do I want out of life what is the what is a homerun is it to be a very famous is that is that the homerun is it to be collected tons of stuff is that aren't you know some type of art is that a homerun and so this was my burning question and now it's still New Yorker I was still sort of like you do New York in the 80s Street Smart New York I'm actually from Connecticut but I started hanging out in New York City my parents were New Yorkers and so we stood my older brothers live in the city so I visit them but soon the time I was fourteen I used to just go to New York City and just hang out on the weekends and when I became a monk and went to India I had saved about twenty five thousand bucks not a lot of money and I thought you my brain okay this is my cynical self I'm going to go to India going to get a guru on my money this how it works but when I actually lived with the monks in India especially India van 1988 there is no Central AC and it's hot there is no heat and it's cold in the winter the showers are freezing cuz all the water kept on a tank on the roof of the ashram in the summer water super hot cuz it's all kept in a tank top of the ashram there's no Creature Comforts whatsoever you go to bed early and wake up super early to go to bed 8:30 you wake up 3 in the morning there's nothing that there's nothing to buy there's nothing to purchase all the fun things that we like to ease the pain of existence are not there there's no comedy strip everything away from a person they lose it they hop the fence so to speak I've seen that happen or they learn to find their pleasure from something more subtle and so when I first went there and saw the joy of the monks I realized they don't want my money they don't want anything I have to offer them I want what they have that was sort of a game changer moment for me I want to figure out how to be connected with nothing what did these guys do all day sure they all got their thing different things but later I started doing my next band because the interesting thing about the bog of agita Bhagavad Gita is your familiar with its one chapter of the biggest epic in the world the mahabhart and it's it it's the most studied and discussed and commented on by all the saints of ancient India people even bring into politics and stuff but it's a real conversation between the spirit and divine divinity conversation about just about is just what it just considered ancient wisdom for all people so that one of the ideas of the Gita is you don't give up what you're born to do you do what you do but in the spirit away you don't try to like wipeout your desires it's not going to happen you take what you do and you do it in a way that is going to assist you in your Liberation and it was going to assist everybody else I'll say I love comedy but I want comedy that uplift me and not doesn't degrade me I like entertainment that when I walk away from it I learned something I feel like I'm growing I feel connected I don't want stuff that's going to just give me darker thoughts like the Joker and I've never seen it it didn't say I want to say that I live in a farm a little farm we rarely watch anything comedy comedy I think laughing so important but I don't watch so much TV so pretty and I do love the movie movies it's out of like with my wife let's just we want to get away from the kids and want to do something but there's no plan on what to watch but I'm open to good idea so Jokers are really good movie but it's really dark it's really dark you walk out of there feeling really confused like you like it did I like that it was awesome I know it's really well done but I like that and it's a it's a It's Complicated me we could get we could talk about the Joker for the next 2 hours garage and you become like what you store in that garage so the thoughts the thoughts that we put in the mine got to be careful with the words before they are like repetitive sounds but they're considered transcendental sounds Entre you might have known it from the soundtrack of hair Hari Krishna Hari Krishna Krishna Krishna Hari Hari Hari Rama Hari Rama Rama Rama Hari Hari it's considered a transcendental sound for the mind and it sort of connects the soul with divinity doesn't matter what religion you are is considered a mantra sound vibration as a potency on the mon was really get the word Mantra from and delivers them on or the Mind somewhat we snore in the mind starts to create our external being and if you don't believe in it it's one of those things we have mantras in our mind anyway I have things on Loop running through my mind that have been handed to me from parents from elementary school teachers from a crazy uncle for self-loathing you're not good enough and these are the mantras running through the yoga system says notice those munchers that's part of self edification or self-realization you notice what's playing in the mind and you replace those monstrous with transcendental sound or at the very least training the mind to see greatness and people that's a big thing cuz the Maya and the way the material mind wants to see it if shortcomings that doesn't make me better at all so that material mind which is Cease one is so insecure that I have to lash out at other people to make myself feel whole and it's just crazy crazy thinking stinking thinking whereas the yogi tree I specifically teach bhakti Yoga Yoga connection or The Yoga of the heart and starts to deal with all the essence the teachings of the Gita which is you train yourself to see greatness and other people and if I start to note it's good you could take this from a micro like my relationship with you I want to notice all Joe's great qualities now when you hear that you might think he appreciates us something to even see things in us we can't see in ourselves we want to become like that that's why these idea of changing the world really starts with yourself connection is I am a spiritual being Joe is a spiritual being and I started train myself in not seeing what show does wrong seeing everything he does right it's a great exercise for the brain what does that do person do right what is the good in this person that I that I'm overlooking cuz I'm just lens Define shortcoming some people and it screws people up tremendously even so-called spiritual people so you spent six and a half years living like this in this ashram just trying to sort things out no no sex no masturbation what are you eating out of that what kind of food they serve you strict vegetarian at 2 an estimated about it especially do I was a rough food is so that these wrong mister up everyone's got their take on medicine and healing let me share the yogi perspective of it the missing ingredient in food the vitamin the super food that has never spoken about is love food is supposed to be grown prepared and then offered in the other offering is not into a human offering us to God that's called prashad food is first called Boga Boga means it's for enjoyment and then you take that enjoyment before you enjoy it you offering it first back like in sacrifice the ideas that everything in this world is not for me everything is I'm not the center I'm here to serve the center so all the food takes on the consciousness of the prepare of the food so to eat junk food or to have people with very low Consciousness cooking your food you're taking that into your body you're taking the consciousness of the prepare of the food do believe that affect if I walked outside that line so for years I'd only eat food cooked by brahmins like like the priests of the ashram or I would cook it myself later have a very weird story which was I became a bunch of my friends that were monks we started our own band and we started a record label a second record label in the ashram I can give you not the first time and so what happened was this band we started that we were all monks and we would take a candy stove on tour with us and we pull over to the side of the road and we make kitchari with rice and Dal and fenugreek and coriander and cumin and we just cut him cuz you wouldn't eat outside food because if you did you would you would you would feel it you would feel it affect your mind maybe I don't know the effect of taking the consciousness of someone who is on a low vibration is cooking your food you just numbed what you just eat the food cuz you're hungry people are numb to it people aren't aware of that concept as opposed to some guy just going to make a burger at White Castle or whatever it is so so I don't know it depends on the individual perception or is it a is an actual energy and doesn't matter I think it's both whether I believe it or not but there's is there is a concept of once you get that food you don't eat the food you honor the food so it's not going to be like me shoving stuff in my mouth if you see my eating habits but it should be more than that the eating itself should be a meditation and it's been proven I'm not one of these guys there's something that's there's a similarity that's going to seem like it's not like it's not a parallel but in hunting when you hunt an animal and you kill that animal you butcher that animal and then you feed it to your family that's it sounds almost critical it sound like there's no way that would be a spiritual feeling but there's a connection to your food that's very very different well we've divorced yourself from killing animals for the most part for the most part most people hire people right most people have no clue where their fruits come from the vegetables come from what you know what a brussel sprouts look like when they grow bananas look like on the grill what is Ground Round Divorce Yourself from our food for the most part the most part most people hire people right most people have no clue where their fruits come from the vegetables come from what you know what a brussel sprouts look like when they grow bananas look like on the grill what is Ground Round in a divorce yourself from our food

buy wet Joe this interesting thing I want to talk to mention to you too cuz you brought this point like I like living my life right live why wouldn't you want to do that again because I didn't challenge it a little because you are saying in retrospect to heal that I don't want to take birth again planets in higher beings they say that that planet like Earth and they said his other ones like this as well there is some pleasure and some pain there's people live in a penthouse and his people are sleeping on the streets or you can be on the hundredth whatever floor was the World Trade Center and be a CEO and then a plane can be wrapped it up two floors underneath you you can go from Pleasure and Pain the most excruciating plane and most incredible highest in a moment so in this sort of that plant places that are like places in the world are like the rape capital of the world and then you've got places that are sort of like Indigo Switzerland or Norway with currency strong people are beautiful and everything you see is like a postcard so we have like great mass of pain and pleasure on this planet in such a condition you could start I'm like why am I here what is life about that it gives you a win to to even ask those questions now if there's just so much pleasure in your life they said it higher beings don't have the impetus to evolve because there's so much pleasure higher being higher being therefore the impetus to get out of samsara repeated birthday there's no impetus to get out some people are suffering so much there's no impetus to even see a spiritual light people are suffering tremendously maybe go to prison or they get to get caught up in more degraded activity so much people have so much time in your life you have so much good karma so to speak but because you're still embodied there always be sort of like a pinprick because it's part of having a body right but my point was this journey is enjoyable and that is that all it is because I've had bad moments of meat is is it all just made if you like the direction did you choose to push forward in the understanding of the push-and-pull the understanding of the discipline and the working in the kindness and the generosity and that all these things are connected together and then also the expression the ability to express yourself through podcast for through stand-up comedy. All these things are enjoyable and that there's a pursuit in that and that they're real benefit of it is at other people get entertainment out of it and that it isn't seeing other people sing songs but people don't play them back at their bands before the rain day like the Buzzcocks from the 70s but they just wanted the right time historically you are alive and enjoying life the idea of doing it forever is terrified people that was what my point was like why is it terrifying was not terrifying to do it now why is the Eternal existence so disturbing to people right unless they have had a traumatic life people have yes people would have not had a traumatic life whoever fair look if you are in America and you're not sick and you have friends you're doing infinitely better than most people on planet sure you know what that's just we're really fortunate in terms of like the environment so we exist in if you're not being abused and you have a job and you have no hobbies and things to do God damn you lucky you could be born in Afghanistan you could be living in the Congo suffering from a host of different pathogens and bacteria and viruses and but your thing is according to that person was at helium made up that idea I don't think you made it obviously was a great warrior as well as a great Jiu-Jitsu teacher but he had this philosophy on existence and that you had to live your life and do the right things always and if you didn't you would come back again and do it all over again will The Vedic system is it is similar things that you don't get bored as Joe Rogan again living than the parallel life and like I didn't take out the garbage that day I should have taken out the garbage and more be like according to your desires and your activities and your thoughts and the people you associate with you moved up psychically you got a little more degraded upgrade or degrade basic interesting life you carved out do you feel like your past life as had some sort of an impact on who you are right now for sure for sure for sure really why you so sure I'm well it's just sort of like my worldview is that there's not a random this that everything is building upon something in the same building upon tomorrow today so you can do my own thing on next week by week this week and he could take a bigger and bigger and bigger so in that sense it makes sense but there's a there's a little bit more to leave a faith like and I'm building up to a climax where I'll take another body or I'm coming from a place where I have some talents you know we call them your god-given gifts or your you know my daughter is a gifted artist but the idea is that it's been a practice that we've been practicing and bringing with us for lifetimes and both are both good and bad belief system that you just sort of a. Because there's not really any evidence it's adopted is that's how the Yogi's view Karma and Timber you taking this in yourself as well in this lifetime like I said that I don't know there's Blind Faith and then there's reasonable Faith so my reasonable faith lies in this lifetime I've witnessed my body change eyewitness my mind change my intelligence change I've witnessed myself cultivate desires that heal me make me stronger make me lighter make me more connected I've witnessed myself shoes bad choices things that are addictive things that are defiling my Consciousness or my body or my health so in this lifetime I know I have I can steer my karma and at the same time there's certain things that are out of my hands like you and me a flight to San Diego and what would you on that plane the plane Journeys are, what we do on that plane that's our Free Will so that's the difference between Freewill and Destiny there is there is a difference of the two just because there is karma doesn't mean you're bound to it you can move it but the yoga system is to bring us to this do all the things that the whole culture is based to keep the Mind peaceful and from the mind is peaceful I act Less on impetus and more from a higher chakras are higher thoughts are higher intelligence for example if I slap a panther Panthers going to bite me why does pandas bite when you slap them if I slap Joe you could act from different place hey man what's up immediately and sometimes I feel that also I feel like I'm acting from a lower place anyway I was parented and try to like from a higher place so there's always a human species there's always the chance to either upgrade your activities or degrade your activities and a snowball author like every good choice helps make a better choice you know what we really said it would die with exercise talk about that show that your karma is connected to what you've done in the past life sure people you look at their life and you think this person where they are right now is directly connected to what they've done in the past life they take you back and when you really study this Vedic thought you realized that there is no more blaming anybody I've just got what I've got for whatever reason now what am I going to do with that you know what am I going to do today while the wind never happens because I've got what I got and to be truthful I have a blind side a blind spot when it comes to anyting atrocious I've done in this life I forgot all the times of hurt people broke people's Parts you know it was rude or cruel or thought was so I got to get some, too in this life what the speed of a previous life Olivia stew and dance here's your option you can either be free from that be Acceptance in except that there's benevolent forces that are trying to teach us lessons to get out of it or you can just be better at the world why me unfair so this idea of benevolent forces that are trying to teach us how do you feel that this spiritual Quest is almost like a Divine puzzle that he when beings are proposed and that you're you are given this infinite series of options and in choosing the right way of thinking and behaving you can carve out the righteous path as best you can you will make mistakes but that there is there's a spiritual undertaking that is a part of operating this puzzle correctly and that this is what all these teachings are about and it's trying to we're all trying to relay what we've learned and what we've experienced personally and we're trying to relay it to other people so that they can relate and so that they can also make choices that will allow them to more refined their approach to life to achieve better spiritual balance do yamas yama-yama guardrails on the road you scratch a car has the guardrail but if it wasn't there would be complete tragedy so they're sort of like things that we pull in with our sexuality with our thoughts with our words it's it's how to use the vehicle in this lifetime for the vehicle the body run what we do what we don't do what we don't but we know what to eat what what to think what to speak how to make a relate to people how to relate to Junior to relate to seniors so the whole beta cultures carved out like this that in itself is not spiritual it just assist you and driving a car I still got to go north and so once I can take care of how to like take care of this machine and keep it on the road then I reach out for connection and that's the spirit so there's Dharma but then there's Dharma that it's supposed to get us connected of Dharma what is that did the definition rather be normal again darmanin sort of like a rambler right living it's not some people confuse it with one doing what you're born to do because I don't think it's just doing what you're good at cuz you could be good at leadership and be a dictator in an in and out your great later and was going to do what you do but Hitler was a great leader great leader is probably in his chart but then you also have great great leaders like Christ also so it's not just leadership is leading person towards connection so that your activity has a a benevolent effect on everyone it touches that's Dharma Dharma is true sense and that's a darn of your body like your Dharma is you entertained you could say a warrior you could also am also dumb as a father so that's it all type of like your carved out for that you know if you weren't doing that you don't feel like a little lack in your life but then there's like an intradermal what you and the Nicoderm is actually the Dharma of the soul and that's why in The Vedic system it's not like you're trying to convert somebody to be of your religion is not like a homerun to say okay change is up a joining the same church of the same ashram it's like a Souls assault it's a truth truth is truth there's no no no one's got a monopoly on truth there's no such thing as genuine meaning of yoga the Artmore the soul with Divinity 2 but with Bhagavad that's the real yoga that's when the yoga means to come together but in the original tax in the original ancient teachings of upanishads Bhagavad Gita it's all about is here I am lost in a crazy plan I'm driving my car everywhere how to keep it on the road and where do I go and that's that's that's the classical concept of what yoga is it's all about is here I am lost in a crazy plan I'm driving my car everywhere how to keep it on the road and where do I go and that's that's that's the classical concept of what yoga is keep it on the road and where do I go I like that way of looking at it

starting a friend of mine about impostor syndrome the Imposter syndrome depression now you get it when like when people think that you're really good at something and you don't have a lot of self-worth or you you have this perception of yourself that you're not worthy right now like maybe as an artist it did that's that's a big one that you have it as an artist I got it forever as a comedian and I probably still have it a little bit but less so Than I Used to Be I'm just more accomplished in more understanding of what it is and the more engrossed in the process and I know what it is now more than I did before okay and you buy Grammy famous people they know who I am I blood call I got to get out of here I am things happen will you go you know what I think I might be legit I think I might be legit like this is so crazy like I thought was imposter forever but I think I'm going to relax and just concentrate on the work and not worry about whether or not I'm an imposter anymore and I concentrate on the work that you guys always there is often more prevalent and people were legitimately talented and for some strange reason because when you're intimately talented one of the ways you become legitimately talented is to be ruthlessly self-critical cuz that's that's how you get really good at something and then Ruth was self remember Katt Williams was talking about himself once and Katt Williams is a crazy person but a brilliant comedian and he said something that I have always thought and he's like I'm not a fan of me and it goes It goes like I don't you know I don't particularly like me and I was like that is why he's great because that makes you work so hard at like the worst thing a comedian can be in the beginning is sure of themselves and then incompetent the same time it's horrible it's horrible because you're not good but you think you're amazing and then you understand you don't know why the world doesn't think you're amazing because you think you're good cuz you're delusional you have this sort of Art official image of the world that you've put up an in the world you are the center you are the center and you want everything to evolve around you in the worst thing in terms of for comedy you people have to enjoy what you doing they have to enjoy and not not everyone's going to you're always going to have some people don't join no matter what but you're trying to make it an enjoyable experience for the people watching it now if you are delusional clueless and if you you don't understand how people see you you you have a distorted perception of reality distorted perception of your own your own your own presents if box up the vibe for the audience at Fox updated date they recognized it to quickly because comedy in a weird way is a spiritual Pursuit for the person is making it because you're putting together thoughts and ideas and your trying to get it into these people's minds in a way that elicits a response that makes them feel good and the only way that you could really do it is you have to hit those notes you have to reach that that residents have to find that frequency whatever it is that works on them and you can't be thinking about yourself too much in you can't be pleased with yourself can be happy with yourself you always have to be analyzing you are for the sculptor you have to be critical always have to and so in doing that it's really easy to develop imposter syndrome cuz even when you think doing well you know what you had like your ego won't like your mind understands that you Eagle will f*** this up if you if you let your ego say on the f****** man you're going to ruin this whole thing but you have to give to be aware with this is like this this this ride requires you to stay within a certain frequency you have to stay inside that frequency as soon as you start going yet pleased with yourself I think you've gone for a full circle back to the bog of agita cuz the bog of agita is the Warriors have to fight the war you think you think the barbecue is going to be like here's Krishna telling Arjuna not to fight just want to fight service and I think when I apply that type of teaching to my life I sometimes I'm not a great singer I'm not a great you know Indian classical music but I'd like to do it and I'm enthusiastic too and to me it's not about me it's about like sort of like an offering it was in the ashram was when you're onstage don't do it to make sure you're doing it to serve God and not be God that statement changed my entire life and I was like everything I do is to be God everything have you heard kirtan no it's so interesting when is it it's it's it's it's chanting back a call-and-response chanting chanting mantras and use like this pump piano and Indian drums play some free later and then I play the harmonium worship on piano and we just sing publicly call and response and all the Indian people will come around and I'll sing with us since it's like it's overwhelming so there's one particular Temple I go to and one particular holy place where singers come from around the world it's like basically in a Rolling Stones Led Zeppelin it's like the best kirtan singers around the world, and they sing and I remember one time I came with a bunch of students of mine and they called me up to sing and in my brain I was like you guys are like the real deal I don't want to sing another no you sing no seriously I don't want to sing please you sing and like thousands of pilgrims come in at the time and somehow I have felt like I have to do this I have to sing because that's what they're ordering me to do I have to do it in a loving way to do in a way to make everybody excited I can't do with any Eagle whatsoever and it becomes like this incredible tightrope-walking can I do my best with can you get onstage it's not about me can I do the offering where I feel like people are going to walk away with something and I got to be changed a little there going to be lifted a little they're going to go home a little bit more connected it's going to help me instead of helping them and can I do it when we have this thing we say deflect our praise you let Grace your great yoga teacher student your great yogurt that was a great thing you did a quick answer is by the mercy of my teachers like we don't want to hold on to praise God praise exacerbates the ego of the teachers in my life all the people that love me care for me people that like screwed with me but they also taught me a lesson so the Yogi's conception is everybody is creating what I am and therefore I don't own any of this You Want To Praise me going to give the praise back to my teacher at a teachers mood is by the mercy of my teacher I look at back at my life and I realize I'm just like a ball of energy and generally the energy goes to like feed my ego feed my ego set to manipulate girls trip to people like me how can I use everything I've got gifted for my own self aggrandisement and so when you get these teachers in your life spiritual teachers who sort of like give you a loving slap or a living hey and they turn you on in some way they take what you already have and they redirect that North instead of South everything I was doing was just a snowballing devastation and now you can you don't you don't give up those qualities that you have but you use them in a way to bring people up is going to bring some down that's what we're saying about movies to or any entertainment or sounds in our mind that state of mind with no ego that's exactly the the frequency that you have to hit when you doing comedy you do your best but you don't do your best of the people love you you do your best cuz that's what you're trying to do crap that's your that this is your thing your thing that you do your your expression your art form you have to manage it and the way the manager correctly is you hot you can't you can't go out there with ego you'll turn people off they won't feel it yet you know there's moments where you can use that especially with comedy will you turn but even if you're doing it though, you're doing it for the effect of people laugh you're not doing it for the effect of pumping yourself up and you have to be very careful about that if they know that that's what you're doing that will accept it that's that's the art of yes that's the art of it it's a dance there's a strange sort of dance that goes on I would notice this is humiliating to mention but I will if I wasn't doing it in a mood of service as an offering if I got offstage and that wasn't my motivation I've been depressed because maybe onstage on the sensor on the coolest I'm it they're singing song lyrics I wrote on my bed and now they're all singing them and then I'm in another country so if you're not medicating with any type of drug or sex and all you're left with his bunch of emotions and this is why people who are entertainers can can move towards addiction or we are ways to mass that that I think this is why people who are entertainers can can move towards a dictionary us ways to mass that that loneliness that comes with being the center where the whole world is trying to convince you of the Maya you for that we're not at the illusion the illusion of life is that you are the center

ending upon your actions you reacted things differently depending upon your physical state and that's one of the things that yoga really helps when one of the ways that yoga helps your karma is Yoga relaxes you two consequences and two things that happen like I remember I was driving on the highway and it was his kid behind me his illegal alien and he was on his phone and he hit the brake relay and slammed in my Porsche have a rare Porsche it's a very nice car and he f***** up my car and I got out and they didn't have a license and insurance insurance card drove I drove it to The Comedy Store but I remember the way I reacted to him cuz I've done Yoga 3 days in a row was cool and calm because he slammed at the time of death that idea I haven't actually had almost near-death experience with this to where you are focused in the same way you're not angry you're not freaking out you become incredibly focused as if I'm about about to leave my body and you can say it once I was attacked and I had it probably the most spiritual experience my life and it was how you attacked such a story but if I was in the show I was with monks we are all monks and we are traveling and we played in sort of a ghetto part of Buffalo and a big show materially speaking it was great we are big people love those who sold merchandise and which band was the shelter and after the show it's about 2 in the morning and everybody's getting out of the club and I'm in the alley getting interviewed for some magazine and our van is parked you could drive a car in the van in the club and all the doors and windows were open and our guys were unloading all the gear and basically only a few people left in the club breaking down the club and I was outside getting interviewed and all of a sudden this car pulls up with these massive dudes who weren't from the they look like just want to get o dudes and they were ripped and they're big and they just grabbed one of the younger kids in our shows level 17 19 20 they grabbed one kit and just beat the living crap out of them and I was like I'm getting interviewed awkward 50 yards away from his randomly random third kid everybody to start running for their life here is like a really don't think of these things like fear and anxiety why don't you do that all I did was I ran back in the club to get my band I said you guys got to get out of here crazy guys outside and all my Roadies Bronx by the way but all the guys were my Roadie said we can't go anywhere in the car start loaded and all the sudden the bad guys there car drives into the club and Parks like like a t blocking our van so we couldn't get out of the club any longer and they get out of the continent not that many people around the club and the biggest guy gets out and grab the gun and he just goes in a really serious and unemotional way I've got a gun I'm going to kill everyone tonight that was one of these like Eerie sort of like Eerie organ music he could hear and I was like it it just felt like oh this is the day and the older devotees will your Krishna devotee monks are bhakti yoga monks and so all the other guys in the van came up to me what we going to do what do they weren't right near us at the time they were like they were literally going around beating people up and all the other monks came out to in a rocket what are we going to do and I had already sort of given up on escaping or anything I just an elevated soul but I said we're going to die tonight and so we're going to chant and I went into the the the price you know what Indian drum and we all started chanting these monstrous to to shrink a Dave was an avatar of Vishnu you usually champer type of protection but we all started really focusing enchanting this monster is unbelievable story true and as they were beating up people they finally came to us and all my guys ran for their life some guys run into the van in the van above the van and I'm surrounded by this gang and the biggest guy just grabbed the gun and he goes to me do you want some freaking trick question and so I just didn't by the way I didn't look like a monk I had jeans on her I didn't it's not like what speed up monk day it was just a random act of violence and so I said I just put my hands like a namaste and said Hari Krishna I'm a devotee of Lord Krishna and I have no idea why you are angry and then for the first time in my life I felt completely helpless repeatedly beaten I just punched and it's just one of those things not like you can even fight back you are just getting pounded but what happened was everytime I got punched iced chanting a mantra so sore like Vishnu Narayan stepping outside myself saying I'm actually in meditation on sacred names and then all the sudden my head was down and I looked behind me and there's these three girls coming to protect me in that baseball bats and then I realized no they're not there the girlfriends of these guys and then I started getting hit by baseball bat unbelievable one of the shoulder in the legs every time I miss is a random thing there's no reason as far as our show is in a ghetto you know there's always a cause of something but I have no idea what the cause was and so every but but miraculously and you read the stories in the Mahabharata rumiano the Great Sage leaves his body in front of him and I'm thinking oh my God I'm chanting these mantras at the time of death I'm shittin chanting at the time of the Perfection of my life that was what was going through my head I kid you not and I was like outside of my body and I wasn't fearful and then all of a sudden to wrap up the story everything stopped and I didn't really know what happened but what was happening was all the guys in the band jumped in our car van and plowed through their car and took off and I can't remember how but I ended up in the street and some ghetto street carrying the Indian clay drum I look like the movie Carrie girl is covered in blood and blood for my head all the way down all over the drum and I'm walking in the streets trying to flag down a car cars with slow down see me because I looked like a zombie or something and then I realized something and you know you're running sort of high on adrenaline I remember being very lucid and I went over to some light I saw look like a garage where they fix cars or house buses or something but it was open and there's a man in a booth and I said so you have to call the police cuz I thought my friends now we're getting beat up or killed or whatever and I said you have to call the police my friends are in trouble and they kind of literally looked at me and just said I'm busy and I said listen you got to call the police right now and if you don't mind I'm just going to hide in this booth cuz I think these guys might come back and kill me and so I'm kneeling down in this dirty garage at 2 in the morning the first thing in my mind is no one knows where I am my mother doesn't know where I am friends don't know where I am my band members on the Wareham they can be getting killed and everything was so good today like I had a great day and now it's over like a dream that I even have these lyrics are like this world's like a dream it's not what it seems we think it's solid but it fade as like I even myself talk became a prayer I start saying I really wasn't expecting to die tonight but that's what the dream is it seems real and now it's over and I started to think like oh my God I was sort of like an estate of like somebody when I was getting beat up I was focused I was connected and I was chanting at that time I said but now maybe my I'm just trying to think my my female Boy Scout first aid is like I might have a concussion my brains going to swell I'm going to fall asleep and then I won't be in meditation and I started saying I said I said I started praying sincerely Krishna I wasn't expecting to die tonight but you were so kind considering I'm not evolved to enter my lips so I could just chant so please don't let me die with concussion if you want to take me please take me right now with all sincerity I started chanting these prayers that I have memorized is very beautiful prayers from a ancient book but their prayers Focus the picture of Krishna in my mind and I started chanting and then unfortunately I lift unfortunately cuz I was so there was no book there's no teacher there's no pilgrimage there was no that taught me more about Mike my spiritual path and met than that beat down day cuz I felt like you were dying close to dying as you can get it accepted it like in that time of great tragedy I've felt connected more than I've ever been connected and I wouldn't wish it again but I'm so happy it happened

play my Mitch Hedberg story which one I did ask him when I was 26 somewhere in Chicago County festival and we clicked right and we walk around Chicago to time people that this velpro live and goes you see this ring I didn't see Adam based upon this ring so I can eat and then I would go eat and get a gig and then buy back I might have to do that no more so you just found some big deal so he needs a shirt for his HBO half hour special Saint Paul I spend the night in this in this home and that's when I learned he's like a chef and all that stuff at 3 really quickly bubble to each other on the road we're in Houston and he goes when I decided I want to do comedy acid taking an asset I got my notebook and everything I saw I wrote in the house the woman was a dealer and she came over and we've been hotel room and that's what I learn with cartoons come from like everything I saw was like a f****** cartoon and I was tripping man and he videotaped me tripping and I'm going Stay Stay Stay like I'm like and then like I started something like all I kept thinking about was p**** right and I was dating this girl and this is music on the card it all my mom's number and hers and I'm calling the girl and that was talking to her on the phone are you high and I was just f****** up the whole thing and I don't do anything physically see it and then in the bed next to me and misses like f****** the girl that bought the I want the phone and he's actually doing this reality and then like my body started shaking in the horseshit like left my my body is so that's how I like you know that was my experience I never did it again never desire to do it again but I did with Mitch and it was like it was like this crazy thing

we talked about yoga and he moved to Bali because he's worried about them extraditing he's worried because he gave me a month free a month free high-end yoga being like you just show up in your clothes they give you the mat towels real blocks body was awesome and I went everyday for a month and did yoga next to Russell Simmons and he was like amazing friend yeah and I was like really fun that I feel great and then there's no more important thing they're both very important but Joey Diaz is not polished at all and he's the funniest guy I've ever seen ya no one's ever made me laugh harder he's not polished he's Roz f*** if it alone is not good because some guys like Jeselnik is very polished and he's very funny you're very polished you're very funny yeah there's no one thing you know like, diesel impression of who you are if you're a Polish person and you try to come off raw skin a little corny so that was about that up because I am I don't know young 20s that Sam is having auditions it just moved from New York to LA and Beverly Hills athletic taping just ironic himself and but I was wrong I auditioned in the Bushwick Bill was one of the judges who was like I'll just indulge of society Chicago and I got picked I was one of the people to get picked to take that fan first time I was ever flown out anywhere first time ever came to gloat about that has not been here before the Hotel Sofitel I was wrong about three months went by of North Dakota South Dakota Minneapolis with none of those Def Jam jokes work so I started like getting polished a little bit right so when I went to take Def Jam I did it and I got I think 7 breaks but I didn't get the standing ovation and I meant when I got on stage at 1 comedians that way to keep him seated and Russell walk right past when I got I am not see me so I knew I wasn't going to are right and I got nothing on you Got7 apartment and they wouldn't dare I got a note so I got it I got my first rejection letter saying thank you so much but you you you won't be airing they are not fed Rodman man to other people and then so I felt like s*** you know I mean like what I audition with it was straight from Maryland like straight just raw like all bravado I wasn't talkin about anything and I went to these other cities and it was kind of like I was kind of like finding my style right how many years have you been doing it at the time I was probably doing I started at 19 but I got the college start and then you do you know if your feature act I knew I was captive time clock sometimes I would go long but I would but I was both very proud of like if they said You trailer 2012 he meant so much to the culture into it and he just when he just didn't see me I just like that years go by and it it didn't see the pain of it like the menace's but it's still kind of in there but you know it's like a Marvel villain like if I got another show and I didn't even think I was going to get picked my only goal was just to make him laugh because he would he was at the audition it was in New York New York Stan Lathan with it was then and this is years later I found out I knew who I was and what I was Nino coming to say I didn't know if it was going to match this show and damn Friday itself on draw like being raw and unlike you know a new voice and then out so I didn't fit like what they were selling you know so then when I saw a wrestling thing I do my at I see Russell grab stomach and go over some I'm good if I get to show I get it if I don't get it I'm good I'll see Stan Lathan go I see them do the whisper I literally don't care about I get to show I did what I set out to do so all the other times and staying back to smooth and I left why do with a big dick real as we don't like all this stuff in and I did one joke and I'm in a Russell got up and gave me a give me a pound in the middle of my set it was like slow motion you can see all the comments like love twenty-four-year-old me a beat it and then I was doing yoga with him for a little bit but we never hung Jose was just like you know I was just like I don't know just call you and say I'm giving you this month for yoga was a part of doing the show all def digital and I think I might need a picture of something

Tyson Fury Deontay Wilder fights all Clips hold on there no holyshit 6969 270 lb and he just figured he said he figured out in the first fight that Deontay in the 12th round he's her back Deonte up Deonte can't fight backing up cuz you want a is a guy pushes forward it is ridiculous power power service moving all the time and fury realizing the 12-round after Deonte knocked him down almost knocked him out and he got up and started chasing Deonte and Deonte fought sloppy said he looked awkward he said his footwork didn't look so good technique definition of people's like that and he has that confident that he has that eraser power but with Tyson Fury belies like look Tyson doesn't fight that way Tyson Fury fights on his toes he sticks and moves do a lot of head movement in a lot of lot of legs shuckin and jivin and it makes it very difficult for you to figure out what he's doing he's going here is it going there isn't moving as if he'll come at you like this with two handles the move out the way of poppy with a job as he's moving away so you're very technical like really sophisticated boxer if you look at the movement that he does for someone as big as him it's really kind of crazy it's not that he couldn't step forward and smashed people knock people out and says he knows the sweet science yes you know he knows the sweet science but then he realized for this fight he had to fight a different way to touch shock Deontay he had a Deontay full blast getting his face from the from the jump and that's exactly what he did he also trained change trainers and he went with Sugar Hill Jose crunk trainer crops were Tommy Hearns came from you know Gerald McClellan some of the great like knockout artists of the path and Kronk gym from Emmanuel Stewart was known as being a very offensive style of fighting they have heavy Jabs they don't touch with the jab to smash you with a jab big Power in the right Kronk was a attacking aggressive Style with their all know if you would wear those crop shorts those yellow gold and shorts you saw guy with cross shorts on that mother f***** came to kill you in the gym Emanuel Steward with turn the heat up to a hundred degrees so when they were doing they were doing like hot yoga in in the f****** Croft gym cuz he wanted to build up endurance in these guys doing you would go into the Kronk gym in Detroit it was hot as f*** hot and that's how we force her but he trained under extreme duress he was a amazing amazing train he's a guy who wrote rejuvenated Wladimir Klitschko Wladimir Klitschko was falling apart because you haven't gotten K on a few times he his style just didn't have like an american-style he had this like sort of straight up european-style and Emmanuel Stewart just shifted his style and it just made him concentrate on utilizing that long in the big Power that long job so when Tyson Fury went with a crunk trainer for this like he did he was dead serious he was going to Seek and Destroy told everybody that's what he's going to do too but nobody believed them everybody thought I was just a hustle like him saying I'm going to come after him in the 12th round of the first fight he just realized we had a backing up is it called this guy stumbles on his feet he gets all awkward and got him backing up so he just just so goddamn Like Glue that's what I wanted to talk to you about I want to stop fighting I'm backing up cuz I got this guy stumbles on his feet he gets awkward and got a backing up so he just Just Like Glue that's what I wanted to talk to you about I want to stop fighting man

listen Averill some some room decide to control dandruff but starting we didn't always informant tightly controlled in bowling alleys who's the guy named Brian Deery used to look these gigs I think still around he's a book these gigs Rhode Island and some of them were great vacation they were terrible in this one as far as I know I think I was the only one I think was a one-and-done I think they killed it after either cuz it was only like four people in the crowd and I went up and it was a guy and a girl Jack and Jill strip clubs there's an old concept that didn't really take off where couples would go and a guy would go and strep in the Grove Oregon strip both look like their parents drank weather in the room we both have terrible tattoos this guy a terrible tattoos and he had them covered with bandanas so it like like bandanas Reynolds Army you can see like the shity tattoo poking out of the bottom and it wasn't who's built Goofy's built like a guy who like lift weights but he drinks every night and I mean like you wasn't Potbelly they both disgusting it was I'd like to say I bombed but finding usually you hear some noise right people mad at you that I was talking so I got a little pool table in the back I knew the dude who just happen to be in town because his family lived there cuz it was around the holidays and his family lived in Rhode Island and you just want to get out of the house and came to this local box any IndyGo say what the f*** is this place and I do what are you doing here and it goes I'm just here my f****** family lives around here I just came here to nowhere else to go what the f*** is this place is so strange and you know I had a game of pool we were laughing I'll never forget it was so strange was so strange front of those people you also know when you get off of those gigs what is going to be like an old-school shity bar gigs going to be great is always packed I was okay alright where is it again sure that we're always packed there was some gigs that I'd get old school shity bar gigs or fun man made me cuz they fed me more

this fight Companion podcast on Saturday night Saturday during the day via fight the fighter from New Zealand UFC fights before the Tyson Fury boxing Deontay Wilder fight and we were talking about it and my friend Eddie was like how come they don't do something like this on TV and they couldn't there's no way would drinking we have whiskey were smoking weed we're talkin crazy s*** you know British of every girl has asked me crazy but it gets means if you so it's one of those things were like if a network had a show like that they'll be like it is a hit for a sports show that's why Sports show to get way more views than the actual show its watching through the fight companion were watching the fights and we're talking about the fights but that gets more than twice as many views is the actual fights itself which is kind of crazy half-in half-out people were talking about before the really could work at the Discovery Channel or the History Channel to trying to cute and things I've tried to take the edge off with guys we're going to cut that sack when I when you talk about those girls asses it's just kind of disrespectful and bone arrow freedom speech was in the air and that's why whenever we were right something it all had to be legally approved I got the first time I saw that it's not like you said like but but when you guys can just say whatever you do you understand now it down this few voices is possible to have control like this this is you and me and and Jamie's hanging out three man crew that reaches millions and millions of people that's insane but that's the thing that's ever happened before but that's the only reason why it works yeah because you don't have any drugs and violence only difference is that I enjoy yeah it's a Hunter bow hunt animals you know that's what I eat all the time you know I'm always swearing don't believe in any of these things when you when you putting together a show there's no way you would ever let a person like me be responsible for the the the job of of promoting something to like being the captain of a ship are you going to all these Executives and their jobs are on the line and you going to have some loose cannon like me who's a wild stand-up comic my everything I've done has been wild from the beginning from fighting to getting the stand up from its wild his wild stuff that's what I like what I talked about with b******* about life about politics about the state of the way human beings communicate with each other a couple of people when you boil it out especially guys like you and me more comics you talk real about stuff who aren't scared of saying their flaws aren't scared of saying where they f***** up and how you know it's do some of my favorite conversations and when you talk about this this s*** you fuxked up when you were young and dumb stop yeah they don't like it they don't like to feel like they're inadequate or or that they were taking feel like they were always good at this kind of thing where you doing a podcast this is I think this is the future of all those talk shows those talk shows are dwindling they are like they're like flowers in the desert man they're not getting enough water there's no one watching the numbers like Conan show it's horrible and you know he's a legend are the legends but there's no one's watching that s*** anymore because you can watch this or any other podcast is something like nine hundred thousand of them and you could watch them or listening to them anytime you want we could stop it when you have to take a s*** you can come back you know you don't have to wait for it to come on you. None of that you can watch it on your computer or real wheel information for you to get spoonfed nonsense on television you know what those like when I watch those CBS shows like those two crime shows on my old people watching this right old people and people that like have chemicals at work and they did come home drunk you know I mean like the something about it something in the air like a spoon fed to them you don't even like the something about it something in the air like you just want to sit and have something mindless spoon-fed to them it's just those network shows that's what keeps those things alive

I wanted to come I wanted to tell you I got I got beef with Malcolm Gladwell you spoke to him connect us and then he was a little tipsy but he was talking about how he could do stand-up doing stand-up is easy is nothing but any intellectualizing it's a certain set of thing in the room drinking and a charger like in and I want him to feel it like I want him no and so I left might just not understand what it is I want him to if I want him to I like I want to take him to a black from mowing the grass tastes like the real is when we don't even know old man don't do that. He was like but this is what I've been saying for a while if you talk to someone a lot of people have been funding their life most people said something funny and everyone can talk right so all you're doing up there talking and you say something funny Gino know if you've ever seen this but there's a lot of people that are needy podcasters or they do other things and then they're doing stand-up occasionally because their crowd yes and they think they're doing good stand-up but then they'll go on in the store and look at the sandwich into a lineup in the OR of murderers and then it's ugly it gets ugly cuz reality sets it cuz they're all there to see you and they're all your fans they paid money they just want to see you say there's the guy from the show ye these large audiences these probably said some funny things so probably thinks that he can do stand-up funny guy but when he got out only truly appreciated by people have done it like truly appreciate in terms of with actually happening and it took me years to realize that what was going on when you killing is some sort of a form of hypnosis there's at the mod. The audience is letting you into their mind and they letting you think for them that's why when you have clunky s*** or you blow yourself up or you you have a distorted perception of yourself or give to any words it's like a it's frustrating it's hard for people to absorb you lose some of that group that you have on them but when someone has economy of words and they lock in and their jokes are tight and then they keep going and going through the lost lost in their thoughts I love it I just go along with them that is so much more to it so many element that's crazy man when he was dissecting stuff and you know he's a brilliant guy overestimate their perceptions they they they overestimate their their ability to break something down gas Linda I don't like I've had conversations with people about fighting that way where do people say hey if anybody ever came out to me I would do this and then I would do that yeah people this idea cuz the person moves in a way that's similar to the way that they can move a thing I could do that with weights a f*** that guy up they have these ideas and they think I'll he's out there talkin I'm smarter than that can we found it he was feeling song is him and another guy talking about jobs that are really hard and he picked stand-up comedy and there's a couple quotes that guy defended Center, very well it seems like but is this something that you and I couldn't figure out where drunk so it's really easy yes they like there was the room is set up for them to coming to see them so it's easier he just doesn't know like he's got a very singular you must have been like one or two stamps from him Dave Chappelle did 10 minutes. There could f****** love not having a heart attack scene mediocre thoughts get past off in the audience laughs like this certain clubs I don't want to mention any names but you can go to them any night of the week in Burbank or North Hollywood dogshit comedy and people laughing their laugh and it's like real clunky low-rent what if that's the only animal that's what he was like a nose ring this a difference between talking about any sport right you could watch someone do it poorly on a playground or you can watch someone do it exquisitely as a professional and he go oh oh here it is Gladwell stated comedians deal with people in a tightly-controlled imagine an easier circumstances for navigating a social situation and that of a stand-up comedian they go to Vegas they go to The Comedy Cellar they control their environments and this this is from Malcolm Gladwell fail stand-up comedy 101 Nathan timmel., he's right in a sense but doesn't understand is there's a mind wrestling what's going on before you actually go and do that and to sort of diminish the difficulty of that just shows that you haven't done it as what it felt like cuz I couldn't I couldn't because he said it in the same exact voice he says everything else is so when he's breaking down something that I really wanted him that said he's so brilliant and so many different ways you couldn't shake it off that 10000 hours what you really want is not just numbers it's numbers of like passion numbers of focus year he's wrong he's wrong but but I get it I can't why you think it has it is a tightly controlled environment but it's so easy to bomb in that tightly controlled environment. No idea it's not just numbers it's numbers of like passion numbers of focus yeah yeah he's wrong he's wrong but but I get it I can't why you think it has it is a tightly controlled environment but it's so easy to bomb in that tightly controlled environment. No idea

Platinum 34 yeah yeah so yeah I did I didn't really do any sports after I guess middle school and rear Middle School through high school to college and then after college I didn't do s*** like stick figure your leg just soft girl is a really weird so like when people see me now they like holy s*** like Ian really like soft-spoken cuz you're very funny on Twitter I was never like the popular kid by any means so workout Yazoo I just got a married and and I also had an office job I was working at an animation studio and before that I've been bartending so I was like moving around and doing stuff and I never really felt like an active but once I quit the bar job and was just doing that full-time I just felt like fat and lazy and greasy and everything I mean you know you like you do also at the shed outside of this Justin like you know stay happy fear of death and the attitude of the finite life being insignificant that the like what is the point of existential angst that many of us struggle with right right that's something that you touch upon really early on that this this thing that makes us unique is that we know that we're going to die yeah yeah that that to me is the vital distinguishing feature of our species you know we can reflect on the past we can think about the future and recognize that we're not going to be here in the future is for some. Of time and it's it's an idea and it's powerful motivating influence is one that has been explored throughout the ages aderonke was one of the early Disciples of Freud who ultimately broke with Freud develop this thesis that our awareness of our own mortality as one of the driving factors in what we do and then when I was I don't know was in my twenties or thirties I read a book by a guy named Ernest Becker called denial of death I know if you've ever heard of this book it was and it's a wonderful distillation of this way of thinking about why we humans do what we do and I'm anyways you my own book the one that's coming out today you until the end of time it's some it's extending this notion that Becker developed in denial of death but now seeing it in a cosmological setting because it's not just we that are going to die it's every structure in the universe is going to disintegrate in time are our best theory suggest was it even protons the very heart of matter their Quantum processes that in the far future will ensure that are proton disintegrates falls apart into its constituent particles and that point there's no complex matter around at all what would it would timeline we talked a long time for to try to give you a feel for the X involved I like to use the Empire State Building and imagine that every floor of the Empire State Building represent to duration 10 times out of the previous floor to like on the ground floor it's like 1-year first floor 10-year second 400 go for it so you going exponentially far in time as you climb up the Empire State Building and in that scheme of things everything from the Big Bang until today you're about at the 10th floor 10 to the 10 years 10 billion years and as you go forward you are looking at things very far in the future and to answer your question we think and I_think because we're now at the speculative end of our theoretical ideas protons will Decay roughly and say by the 38th floor the 10 to the 38 years and I got a phone call be a buddy of mine from college connect me to this this guy just Icelandic I've never met him before his name is beyond Paul don't know what store I do now is an absolute Legend and he says hey man you were just in Antarctica right and I was like yeah he's like I think we should go back to Antarctica and I was like all right well what do you think he's like in a rowboat I think we should rub a boat from the southern tip of South America to the peninsula vanorder lacrosse Drake Passage how far is that about seven hundred miles and I said please delete my stomach 700 miles rowing a boat in the world you know you've gotten the Atlantic and the Pacific and the Southern Ocean kind of all conversion between an artic peninsula in the southern tip of South America so you got 40 foot swells you got no crazy waves where did he get close to Antarctica and the the mission of the goal was to see if we could there it is right there that's it all the way through to that year but it was it was a two-week r12a Crossing so in the two weeks you had to have two weeks worth of food how about yes oh well water actually we have a desalinator so off of off of solar panels everything seems so where is Noah going to engine no se or nothing like that should complete human-powered romwe have a portable desalination how big is it fits inside 125 feet long 3 Guys running time for six of us total in the team ultimately barely anywhere to sleep in the tiny little compartments like the size of like you know sleeping in the back of a you know hatchback Honda Civic or something like that but but yeah so that's basically kind of in 1 essential compartments was probably like I don't know maybe 2ft by 2ft square or something like that and he doesn't doesn't make a lot of real fast you make 10 liters of water in like you know an hour or two depending on the table month House of Fun is good but let me get the done yeah I guess it done cuz it tastes like whale dicks it got real salty like it wasn't doing quite as good of a job the water on near Antarctica was like one degrees Celsius is 33 Fahrenheit in practically Frozen cold water and I think that was kind of starting to tweak out the system they don't want my money they don't want anything I have to offer them I want what they have that was sort of a game changer moment for me I want to figure out how to be connected with nothing what did these guys do all day spiritual path but later I started doing my next band because the interesting thing about Vegeta Adidas you're familiar with its one chapter of the biggest epic in the world the mahabhart and it's a it's the most studied and discussed and commented on by all the saints of ancient India people even bring it to politics and stuff but it's a real conversation between the spirit and divine Divinity that's a conversation about it just about is just what it's just considered ancient wisdom so the one of the ideas of the Gita is you don't give up what you're born to do you do what you do but in a spiritual way you don't try to like wipeout your desires it's not going to happen you take what you do and you do it in a way that is going to assist you and your Liberation and is going to assist everybody else so I'll say I love comedy but I want comedy that uplift me and not. degrade me I like entertainment that when I walk away from it I learned something I feel like I'm growing I feel connected I don't want stuff is going to just give me darker thoughts like the Joker and I've never seen it didn't say I want to say that I live in a farm a little farm we're are I really want anything except comedy comedy important but I don't watch so much TV somm pretty and I do go to the movies movies it's out of like with my wife let's just we want to get away from the kids and want to do something but there's no plan on what to watch but I'm open to good idea so Jokers are really good movie but it's really dark it's really dark you walk out of there feeling really confused I feel like that I like that I don't know if I like that I know it was awesome I know it was really well done but I like that but there's no plan on what to watch but I'm open to good idea so Jokers a really good movie but it's really dark really dark you walk out of there feeling really confused but I feel like did I like that I like that I know it was awesome I know it's really well done but I like that

it would go fight man got to go to the theater major he's dramatic and he's pissed here we go now Brian give me give me your assessment you think Felder I'm going to just go with Felder because he always always is in the fight and he's always his friend he's a giant fan of that Loki check and we go interesting interesting set up he's hit like 4 or 5 low calf kicked hooker has four already don't talk to me that left hook don't sleep on Felder Felder the f****** tank at nothing about tout Felder he's really big for that division he was walking around 190 lb hookers body is so weird it's got like big ass f****** shoulders and big ass bicep it's almost like they're PreSonus shop all over it with hookers dicks and I don't know who hooker is chop a tree down guys fight and eventually just crumbled doesn't make a try to Felder knows that and Felder knows that he went toe-to-toe with Barboza and he's got that in the back of his head packable Founders 1-5 in a row has arguably top two or three best striking coaches on planet Earth Rufus is a f****** machine strongest f*** bro he's a big fella when he's walking around in between fights like how the f*** do you ever make 155 very interesting Sam's if your hookah flavor hookah finish be worried that Barboza stopped felt that bubbles of stop hooker but they're felted beat barbeau's in the rematch and he went toe-to-toe with them the first fight as we did by the way by the way fight oshit ook hooker with a low kicks especially the low captive but that's not enough Fellowes going forward Dollar Store more hands Live account really kicks is the jab locate Gabby round by round fight and let's see if Elder ones out but here's the thing about those kind of swollen eyes if they have a good cornerman they always do and they have ends well they can put that s*** aside to move it a little bit Hanson Tire second-round interview just jumped out really well mashvisor 7 especially when Felder understands how significant that is as as does hook with him and he's a scary engage waiting for Tony perkis Mavericks that right leg in and that he's got the seat belt in a fool and you know what he could pull him back into the truck if you knew that, if he took his right ankle and went behind filters that I don't know who I would collapse him but you have to be really confident when you run games long as f*** felder's left ankle battle collapse wanted to his throne song you got to be comfortable with the truck game if you're if you're not you're not going to do it you're not how it feels to feels awkward 2 minutes ago you know if judges are man especially dangerous weapon Brian if you're watching this fight was Stallone like you should watch your fights what's that sound like just a few questions did not like it he did not like yourself but his nose is a mess anyway all that will be clipped them a little bit of a stumble of legs the other two but s*** three more f****** around cuz it's so good man we got 30 seconds can you get me to give it to you it's close to close up the first half looked at the position on the back control the outside landed but I don't contact picture on hookah which is very rare he's at going after hooker but not not tactically like Barboza but like super aggressively like in your face the founders mind so f****** strong what are things about him that's so interesting is he such a smart articula guys a great commentator but behind that instead Inferno you know there's something going on inside the guy said whatever is going on in his head is dark huh woohoo that left hook is dangerous and hookers not picking his f****** right hand up his hands a super-low a lot of the time a lot of time does he's being a pest volume hey dude, they're doing more damage in this for a hundred percent he's also throwing for the hooker in the pocket he knows felder's coming back with missiles that job is so nice to everyone that left hook nose ones over Austin Powers film set it up with the problem is his powers being stifled by the fact that Felder so aggressive and threatening it makes you think imperfect look at that I just see a red mess I'll see any pulled back out of that kick is Wild is the high-stakes bucking game here kids cuz you do this weekend what happened to though so far hooker has this round yeah Vine but I would say this round is pretty clean ready when you got felt if you want yeah I filled up to 141 this round is that supposed to gender in New Zealand and there in New Zealand Yule and I looked over Dominick Cruz and his jaw dropped when I exercise until like what Hooker Hooker has huge used to fight 45 which is this crazy it's undeniably let's see who's forcing himself himself on hooker light em up looking BCI work somebody's bad at 3 everyday in practice turning hooker around high-level wrestler that kept taking him down that he couldn't stop to take down a stupid question can beats X be happy as f*** repeat it would never do that right right I would never do that like that would never take khabib off the f****** fendt I hate when retirees break up fights on the fence and I hate when they break them up on the ground and no people disagree with anything to make it a fight boring aggressive heat on them you know this isn't just like he's catching them with s*** he's pressing him and he's getting in his face and he's making it real not good. Good oh big elbow this is a big round for a championship Round Here by the elbow singing is round it made you go around the guy in the position to hookers in would win even if he got tattooed a couple times now and against the fence I got dumped off that ran in Houston that gave all four rounds of dominant over to Jon Jones overtime to call I watched it five times and I watched it two times the next day and then I washed it three more times since the third round is the only confusing around it's a little dicey face and I also feel like John want with the dominance of Championship 100% but then towards the end okay that's clear yeah okay that's why I wanted when you look at the numbers to some people may give the first second round a hooker then you get that trailer back to Hooker this could be a tax dollars at 54th and 2nd some idea but it is possible that bad judging leads to other people going well you don't think will accuse are going to give hooker 4 rounds to want you no matter what happened I think so yeah I'm holding the other guy can you prove that he's controlling do aggressive moving control Aerosports if we don't do any talk about it the child is got to get out of see the reason why hookers doing this is because the other s*** is not work and he's losing me that you end up getting what hookers doing at this point where exactly happened so this is where I can handle now though. do they belong and 170000 real similar sites not just all biceps who would throw Lee left hooks instead of a job I'll tell you what your boy hookers getting tired well so looking for the takedown tell me was it being ashamed to come down now bothers me man you got to give this to felt no no no no Xbox right now and you had a pic it wasn't working but no it was so close it was so tight it could have gone either way because the guy down. Got him in the most right now V I was just as boring as the first Ian Happ Titanic from what is Dan hooker gets decision decision give us some volume one you weren't score in the fight to get raped he's going to give it to Hooker to give it to the guy who's looking the best at the end can you disclose a might be in for him he said wow and like her that was a fight that was about as close as you can get and Hardy saying thank you to him no no no no nobody regular basis the guy behind him a stiff breeze put him in a coma

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everybody says white sponsorship hey are you working with Tony we've been preparing for a long time but we were preparing for him but we were also preparing for the worst case he's probably the best wrestler ever Wright visitor challenge ever for an MMA for 10th Planet that's for sure this is the worst case scenario that I've been talking about this is what I prepare for every me personally my Abu Dhabi is at the gym when we have drop-ins and since 2003 and who knows is going to drop in that night and challenge me so my I always prepare for the is there some drop-in is 190 who wrestle this whole lied I really didn't get to and what am I going to do with him that first round and round we go with probably one round maybe two I'm just I'm just focusing on stuff that he's never seen cuz I come at him with stuff he seen then that's not a good that's not a good strategy, I'm going to pull them into some some Uncharted Territory and that's what we're doing that's what I've been doing with Tony is prettier in Uncharted Territory you know the thing with khabib khabib is undefeated no doubt one of the best fighters probably of all time you know what I mean it wasn't that easy to take down you know and Tony you know you when you compare like you know the Conor fight with khabib you know everybody know that you can watch that I'm only giving away stuff that you can watch out you know where everything's going as well and when they are halfway back up there's that look and then they're back on the fence there's that position that look so when it comes to khabib it's going to be the hardest challenge ever write for sure for sure but the advantage that we have is we know exactly where the fight is going to be if khabib gets like in and out of 56 S1 we know where the fight can be you know I'm the one thing we don't know it how is it going to look at it going to look like you know khabib has his way and passes Tony's card like he has against the other opponent or is it going to be like Gleason to Bowers having a hard time taking him down and he's having his never get inside control never passing the guard against Gleason is it going to look like that how is it going to look at look so many different we'll never really know until they match up don't rely on out late but I will I will promise you this is we got all sorts of landmines waiting for you and we know where the fight where he wants to take the fight and there's going to be some traps there all sorts of them and no one knows about them we're not talking about it but we've been working on this for for a while Tony has so many goddamn weapons Somas utility leading the fight winner was covered in sweat and blood like Barboza yeah yeah is one of those techniques that is you could learn really but learning parties easy as part of learning how to do a d'arce the darkest everybody knows the dark every Grappler Abu Dhabi in the like the last Abu Dhabi 2019 every Grappler on the card knows how to do a darn thing on a TQ they could do a seminar but no one did it only one guy that Ruto load one of the Rotolo twinsies from that guy in the strategy is not like a thing thinking about consciously it's in his DNA but they're probably does because he's always he's looking for it subconsciously it's in a strategy it's in his DNA that's how that's how Tony is Tony man. We're not here but we're working on it even more and making sure that if khabib is caught in one of those things were making it so we're making sure that that thing is Emporia, Nike 18 does it have them in a guillotine for his black belt to intuos Tony's cardio is just ridiculous now literally ridiculous cuz he'll have a crazy super-high fast-paced fight and you look at him he's not even breathing heavy his stomach's not even wheel of hand and he throws elbows more than your average UFC fighter a few times I think those are classic kind of guy who knows he loves you ones then who know they match up just so well together please gods of War get them together in April Lysol Tony jumping a balancing pole United say something like tell me when Tony trains are so he's extreme and now he's super into make sure the NBA would I be doing those arms do horses come in from everywhere posters made up again the posters though I opposed to gives you a hard-on all you need this grounding pounder right took out Connor took his ass out f****** everybody up and then here comes Tony the f****** wild Enigma be coming at you from a thousand different angles and chills but just to the great fight Kevin Lee spinning elbow and then he threw another one right after nuts that's one of his. That's one of his most powerful weapons is that he doesn't he does not hesitate to pull the trigger he's never cautious not a lot of guys you know you hear about these guys I put the goal is to take what he does in the gym and out to the ring that's the goal we could do that he's going to be unstoppable from day one he was revealed anything he doesn't the gym he's going to do in the ring no hesitation you know what I mean there's he doesn't ever hold back I'm pulling the trigger the very exciting fight the Best Buy

who knows how good John will be at heavyweight other heavyweights how much of is physical mean maybe if a big fight comes up like a Stevie miocic I know or Francis you're right you're right yeah you're right maybe slow down getting older and I go or maybe he just doesn't give a f*** about these contenders he's fighting and you know he's out partying. At the Super Bowl and then the week before the fight at the Super Bowl but anyhow you up Francis you make one wrong move and you get knocked out but we see a f****** gnarly ass Jon Jones he had a couple of years off because of all the troubles outside of the Octagon right two years we really wasn't finding but other than that he's had nine solid years against world championship Alabama Gustafson Justin deadline damage that's basically I'm excited to see that rematch I think I think Dominic Reyes would be even better in the rematch I think Dominic Reyes realizes now it's all about having the the energy in that third fourth and fifth round and haven't already been to the top of the mountain and then face the dragon I think he's going to come back better than ever something that dragon and rematches gets way better and goes all your natural threat I'm going to prepare for it this time I'd like to see it I want to see what Reyes can do to Andreas wrist got that rupnow right Ray is going to come into that second fight knowing that he came at a c*** hair away from being the light heavyweight champion of the world and you know I mean one judge gave it to John four rounds to one which is something embarrassing Lee bad was it different out you know what people just look at flights differently sometimes you know to make his back at get out there's dudes that look at the round we're even to this day where guy gets taken down and he doesn't do any damage but you know and still give it to the guy on the bottom just cuz the guy on top didn't do any damage guys up for sure no matter what if you get a takedown you're going to run around and there's guys that I mean in the early 2002 I knew some judges I don't want to say any names but they would give them if they would give around to a dude who escaped a bunch of submissions because that guy had him in great positions and he couldn't play his game and couldn't Implement his game and he had all this great position on them had his back and he escapes I'm going to give it to the guy who escaped like a shitshow positions and he couldn't play his game we couldn't Implement his game and he had all these great position on them had his back and he escapes I'm going to give it to the guy who escaped like a shitshow yeah that there's there's guys like that out there so it's not necessarily the

really interesting interview with Mike Tyson the other day man on his Instagram page Mike Tyson's a deep motherfuker man he's so deep he's been through some s*** he's so damn you know I mean he was just talking about it like his life and like what he used to try to say to himself to pump himself up because he has low self-esteem you know what time when he was on a podcast no one ever gets really too deep into it on you know the fact that Custom Auto at him hypnotized he did it he talked about on the podcast in-depth and then when cussed died did the hypnotism stop when he was a little kid coughs was hypnotized Me Maybe the brightest might a terrible childhood no love and then all sudden he finds out that he's crazy crazy physically gifted I mean Teddy Atlas told me that when Mike Tyson was 13 years old he would take him to these little amateur fights and he was 190 lb that I wonder if maybe that was the backstage before you walked out. I don't know about that he whines up with a f****** one of the all-time great boxing coaches particularly for the mind and Teddy Atlas when he was young and his prom is also an amazing boxing coach and he's up in the Catskills where he's up in the mountains in this secluded environment so we can concentrate only on boxing he's getting hypnotized and he's watching Jimmy Jacobs has this insane Library fight everything from Jack Dempsey to Joe Lewis Derrick Henry Armstrong watch the all-time great he's watching like all this black and white footage Jack Johnson under hypnosis day heavyweight boxer ever you didn't you think that hypnosis stuff actually worked for sure other people real monster who's incredible man no one can sustain the kind of pace that he kept up on our way early days but man when he still maintained when he fought Marvis Frazier those are scary the heavyweight has ever been as scary as a heavyweight what's up I'm sure he's a hypnotist he's also a commentator is afro that's by far the worst do Mike Tyson was just destroying people back in the day just destroying people it was a different time then he won the title it was a different heavyweight division before him was Tyson in it that I think you would be would never ask him McNeely the same thick Duty Fallout 4 tell me the funniest taken out tomorrow's smart tomorrow's smart said he was doing this thing with Mike Tyson signed out because he was it's like you sitting next to a lion and it's like that's really Mike Tyson it's like a lion's there always been free to find out anything I'll sweat and he's so out of it like a medication is like is he a drugged-up lion at that day the date that one Robin Givens and then they broke up never probably married right they get married to your married and then after they got divorced he said he was apparently still banging her every now and then and then he shows up and like Brad Pitt's with her do his mind can I leave

which we do a teacher training yoga training in India every January I just got back from a song on your Instagram music school work study Indian music and kirtan we have a 300 hour training for people who are teachers and we have a sacred literature if you study the Bhagavad Gita in all these sacred texts before the podcast of the Bhagavad Gita and of the Mahabharat all the the ancient Indian texts which are filled with really wild out there s*** you know I mean sorry Ana's feels like that I can't say real but I could I could understand how things can be made of subtle energy explain V monster a spaceship spaceship from and they speak of spaceships and flying crafts but they're not made of the same elements of this Earth they suffer from the same things people who claimed abduction it's not like a type of neurosis or skip the they suffer from like post-traumatic stress syndrome like they do you remember the story of Betty and Barney Hill now it's the most famous abduction story it was an interracial couple from my thing was a 1950s or 1960s and just random my interviews always go here this girl on the podcast this woman on the podcast yesterday she's an MMA fighter and it was Angela Hill she's a couple days ago actually this badass MMA fighter at the end the podcast goes I forgot to bring this up but my grandfather is Barney Hill house like that guy I'm like no f****** way that guy Barney Hill was the very first like really public UFO abductee and there's record any jobs Kraft that's eerily similar to the crafts that Bob Lazar described and different people described in the he and his wife lost time while they were driving and then woke up with these bizarre horrific memories that they both shared of this encounter with these space beings and that they were abducted and the medical examinations were run on them then they were replaced with missing time and it's do you listen to recordings of him being hypnotized and going through it like two screaming in fear that they're touching him in the where they taking and what are they doing to him it's not like a guy acting it's not like a scene right movie with someone screaming in fear it sounds real and I to the teachings of ancient India is that life exists on all planets it even exists on the Sun as of the first arguably like, they just don't have bodies of a fire body therefore I'm trying to look at how does a person with earth and water body live in the sun they can't you have to have a body like 13 years old what am I missing what sense am I missing that I can't have objective reality in a what am I missing in my missing a sense why you have this principle called the fart Theory like if someone but you didn't never knows you have no idea he'd have no idea of knowing that you possess that allows you to regret recognize something that's invisible you can't see it you can't feel you can't hold it there's not there you don't there's no way of detecting it other than your olfactory senses but through your nose you can detect something awful what sense am I missing LIHEAP in me understanding Ashley reality that's one of the things that you feel when you take psychedelics like this is opening up some new sense that I wasn't with this is around me all the time I'm just not tuned into it because I don't have the right chemical composition flowing through my brain when I start to teach a bigger training to yoga training in philosophy that's one of the things I do mainly I start with this concept of this is how you understand who's here but come on we're adults are my supposed to understand that a elephant-headed man described this entire book can't we just extracted a useful lesson do you know it's really caught me off-guard like what do you actually know right with you know okay suppose 300 years ago you're living in New York your family living in New York your tribe is living in New York you have a certain amount of animals and animals that you keep animals that you ride animals that you hunt foods you eat and then one of you goes on a boat to Africa and you come back and you think you're never going to believe what I saw I saw a striped horse with a white head I saw striped worse if you've never seen a zebra it's almost unbelievable if all you know is ponies run or I saw this horse with a really long neck that ate the leaves on the trees, man it's all fantastic because we've never seen it but that doesn't mean it doesn't really understand The Vedas the teachings of ancient India you have to go into it like not that it's all real Blind Faith but I'm not saying don't be a blind doubter like it could be I don't know but I don't know a lot what do you think that what do you think like Ganesh was arrested being Find Faith but I'm not saying don't be a blind doubter like it could be I don't know but I don't know a lot what do you think that what do you think like Ganesh was arrested being

Kurzweil is a fascinating character have you discussed any of this stuff with him you know I don't know him personally I have certainly gone to some of his talks and I think he and I had one exchange at some point in the past and I totally get where he's coming from you know he feels that we're perhaps the final mortal generation and how sad it is after you know thousand generations of humans if we could only stick around for one more generation science would come to a point where we would be in mortal and that feels like a tragic State of Affairs I don't think he's right and I think most people who think about this deeply don't think he's right either however many vitamins you take and however much Sciences progressing the notion that we are just a generation or two from immortality at the wishful thinking this is strange concept of immortality to because it's not necessarily you it's a downloaded version of you that will exist in some sort of a computer right which is what does that mean like that sounds like hell yeah it could be asleep in that computer in the world that are hard for us as flesh-and-blood into appreciate this point but it raises the Deep question would that be a good thing and back if you had that opportunity to be downloaded in some form and that would allow you to hold on to all your memories build new memories on top of them have experience and maybe there's an avatar that you're able to drive but through you know your mental machinations is out there in the world would you do it I might have said yes before I've had I'm pretty profound psychedelic experiences and then from then I said I'm going to hedge my bets I'ma see what's next right and see what happens when the lights go out I really think there may be something that happens when the lights go out I don't know I don't know what I mean for sure your body is going to Decay and you are going to become a part of the earth you're becoming part unless they cremate you or unless they embalm you with some toxic chemicals then nothing can use your your dead tissue which is really a shame yet become a part of the earth you're becoming part unless they cremate you or unless they embalm you with some toxic chemicals then nothing can use your your dead tissue which is really a shame that we do that right yeah

what do you think Consciousness is consciousness is clearly just a factor of brain tissue and an energy or do you think it's possible that what our brain is is something that tunes into Consciousness yeah well I spend some time thinking about this question I think it's perhaps the deepest question that faces size or even Humanity at some level and my own personal purse active is that Consciousness is nothing more than the choreographed motion of particles in Ferris Quantum States inside a Gloppy gray structure that sits inside this thing that we call ahead do I have any proof for that no does anybody have any proof of what Consciousness is not at all at this moment but the history of the reduction is program where we've been able to take some of the more spectacular Creations that have emerged in the and recognize that they are nothing but the product of their ingredients in the laws of physics leads me to extrapolate that idea to the experience of Consciousness and having said that there's a deep puzzle it's called the hard problem of Consciousness which is if electrons and corks and particles and laws of physics are all that there is and if you buy into the fact that electrons don't have an inner world that corks don't have an inner world by taking a collection of those particles you can turn on the lights how can a collection of mindless thoughtless particle somehow yield mindful experience and that's a deep question that science has not yet answered my own feeling is when we understand the brain better that question will evaporate will look at the brain with our new-found understanding maybe it's a hundred years in the making maybe a thousand years in the making aha when electrons and quarks and protons move in this particular configuration one of the byproducts in an inner Sensation that we Call Conscious experience and that to me is a likely answer that we will find but there are some very smart well-respected people who go in a very different direction there are some who say electrons and protons and corks they do have a fundamental Proto conscious quality they themselves are conscious beings of A Sort now it's not like you're going to have electrons that are crying or are quarks that are anguishing but if you have a little Proto elements of conscious experience that is imbued into a particle and then you take a lot of the particles and put them together the ideas that yields the Manifest conscious experience that were familiar with I don't buy into that but white people position on this because I guess my view is you look out at the world and what you do as a physicist is you move the smallest degree required to explain the phenomena that you are observing and to move from our current understanding of the world to LeapFrog to a place where electrons are conscious and corks a conscious to me is such a fantastically radical move that I considerate Justified to make that move with our current level of understanding there was a time back in the 80s when life itself was so mystical that people basically said the same kind of thing how could a collection of lifeless particles ever come together and yield a living thing they said that they can't you have to induce a life-force have to inject vital it have you inject a life force and that's what sparked the emergence of Life on life was part I don't think any serious scientist thinks that today I think most serious honey to say yes life is wonderful life is in some sense miraculous but life is nothing but the particles of nature coming together to yield the complex molecules of DNA and RNA the complex cellular structures the cells come together to yield the more complex multicellular organism and that's all that it takes to have something that's alive no life force is necessary that way of thinking about the world has gone away and I am my own feeling is that that kind of progression is going to happen for Consciousness today it's a really mysterious how it is that I have this invoice talkin inside my head how it is that I look around the world and I can see the color red and I can and I can experience the color red I don't just have sensors that can call that red I mean an iPhone can do that I actually have an inner world where I feel that color red I'm from heart answer that question but I think a hundred or thousand years from now we'll look back and smile at how we in this era invested Consciousness with such mystical quality when in the end it's nothing but particles in the laws of physics and that's all there is to it but what's interesting to to me is that as a human being my my thoughts on Consciousness or are very deep and profound and it is this ideal like what is this thing but if I really break it down actively in animals have some sort of a Consciousness I mean including they have instincts right they there try to get away from danger they try to arrive in procreate and we develop something far more complex and our ability to express ourselves and language and in doing that language during that creation of that language we developed all sorts of bizarre Concepts and we've developed all sorts of different ways to describe feelings and emotions and and contemplate the future yeah well nice things are continually getting more more complex if you go to single-celled organisms work your way up to you know early hominids and then get the human beings you to see this ever increase in form of complexity in every way yes and in the way that the things see the world of course it makes sense that there be more complexity right but we don't think about that we think of a parakeet we don't think of a parakeet is being conscious the parakeet relatively speaking is far more primitive than a chimpanzee which is relatively speaking far more primitive than a human being right and it just going to continue to evolve or if we survive things will continue to improve didn't natural selection and random mutation and all the other factors and will be something that makes this today look like primitive the way we look at single-celled organisms are Champs or whatever I can well imagine that those small changes in that you to type fraction and percent yield a radical change in what they being that has a DNA is able to accomplish but at the same time you you made reference to psychedelic experience yeah and I trust you agree but tell me if you don't that those psychedelic experiences were generated by a slight change in the chemical makeup of the particles coursing through your brain and your body sometimes not even to change sometimes a lot of them right so so to me that's a great piece of data that speaks to the fact that all it is is particles and chemicals coursing through a structure because if the mind was somehow external to the physical makeup in the Walt describing it then how would the injection say of some kind of foreign substance or as you say the brain produces some sort of substance that it didn't ordinarily have within its makeup why would they be able to have such radical impact unconscious experience the way I would look at it if I was trying to argue against that would be that your eyes and the organs of the human eye are taking in light and through that light are able to perceive physical objects in the world that they would not be able to do without light it's something that allows you to see and it allows you to take in depth perception and understand shapes that the human mouth find and particularly these glands that produce the Psychedelic chemicals when experiencing these chemicals it allows the brain to experience things that might be there all the time but that you cannot perceive with normal human neurochemistry that needs to be enhanced or the levels need to be changed and shifted and what's really perplexing about that these chemicals is that these chemicals are produced by your brain and if you do take these like particular dimethyltryptamine what is the most potent of all the Psychedelic chemicals to take that that you have these insanely profound Vision right which is you know leads to a lot of people having he's a religious spiritual epiphanies have you done anyting have you done any psychedelic experiences that you're allowed to talk about I have not not many and I'm a complete lightweight in this Arena because I hardly drink you do I hardly do anything that it puts foreign substance into the body but yeah I was in I was in Amsterdam I was I was there because I was giving a lecture to the queen of Holland and I gave the lecture and my wife and I were both there and after that was over we decided to do a little experimenting and for somebody like me who doesn't experiment I made a mistake because you know who took their like this the easy way in like the video the novice version and it did nothing to me at all that first night so the next night when we went I went right to the bottom of the list where they use sent you was in Dutch or something but it had like machine guns you know pointed out of brain, so I did that version and it was the most terrifying experience of my f****** life we're in a club we're in a club and all of a sudden the world changed and what started happening is my brain started manufacturing versions of myself that would converse with me and convince me that the reality that I was experiencing was real and then that version of me would destroy that reality and the process would start over and over and over again yeah wow Cafe smoked any and I suspect that the impact was because my body has no experience over the impact and you know it was terrifying it was utterly I was in the hotel room and I was clinging to the bed and and I actually said to my wife tie me up cuz I'm like terrified of what I'm going to do right you know what wow you know and and so instead you know she she called the doctor and I was like she was like afraid this would be like in the newspaper cuz I just I get elected to the queen you know but you know they're so used to Americans getting in over their head with this kind of potatoes or something that they were completely used to a doctor and the doctor basically just gives you sugar and my wife knew that this was an extreme because I don't eat any sugar but I was like he said either I was like taking a Milky Way bars like I'm seeing her somehow I don't know I don't know the chemistry behind this but but sugar is the antidote supposed to help but it it lasted 8 hours even flying home on the plane the next day all I did is I sat in my seat and I put on the headphones and there's a Beatles Channel and I just like listen to Beatles proper like April like 7 hours I was just you know in this in this place that I had never experienced before no unibrow conversate you know this just made it so intuitively obvious to me that my conscious awareness is totally dependent on tan on account a few chemicals that's all that's happening inside of the headstone away it was a valuable experience is not something that I don't want to ever experience again absolutely but it was something that help align my tulip understanding of what Consciousness is with the scientific recognition that it all relies upon the stuff that's circulating inside of your mind what's interesting about these heavy-duty psychedelic experiences cuz what you took was in by most people's idea of very mild yeah but profound psychedelic chemicals that are also produced by your brain if you just shift that ratio and not by too much really going to talk about it even tournament little small doses of this stuff shift that ratio it produces these profound Vision dislike Ayahuasca text is Justin Worley active version of dimethyl trip okay and it breaks down dimethyltryptamine and so they figured out how to combine an MAO inhibitor with the leaves of another plan that has the dimethyltryptamine and I said but you can take synthetic versions of it but the Pope this is something that your brain produces your liver produces we know we know it is producing a long that's the body makes it yeah right but it's got its in there but then what what we have now in terms of our balance in our are chemicals must be different than what this fellow must have had yes chimpanzee thing in there but that Fountain also do you have these incredibly profound that yeah yeah it makes you think like what what we have now in terms of our balance in our our chemicals must be different than what this fellow must have had yes chimpanzee thing

disparity time meditating I do I'm not particularly effective at it and so people are that way you know but you know years ago Factor once well years ago friend of mine bought me one of these Transcendental Meditation courses and I was like I'm going to actually go and do it and it was kind of eye-opening there was a lot of what you might call woo woo stuff that was happening in the lectures ineffective the guy giving the lecture he did recognize me and you could I could tell how uncomfortable he was giving his normal description cuz he kept looking at me she purposely if you would invoke quantum physics and things are better but the idea of a different mode of operation which is sort of how I summer the experience you know if you're if you're reciting the Mantra in your mind and allowing that to be a sort of pedal-point a driver of how your mind is behaving at that moment that's a very different way of being in the world from thinking about grocery shopping or something Einstein's equation and I think that to me is the value of it it's a systematic way to put your mind in a different mode of operation and at times I find it very useful to move into that place I'm what when you when you start doing Transit on meditation what about it was weird well it was weird with number one was doing this in this in this group setting which is how you start on this course and moreover it being framed in a manner that I had trouble aligning with my understanding of how the world works by virtue of the lectures that were given to us for what it is what we're doing but through the practice I sort of found I'm trying I'm just translating from what they were saying in the lecture into a language that I'm more comfortable with and that made it less weird for me because it didn't make any sense to me and saying hey what is this really about what this really is about is breaking the usual Chain of Thought that is 99.9% of the time of how we live in the world and allowing my brain to have a chain of thought that is artificial cuz I'm sitting here forcing myself to recite this Mantra inside my mind but that's a very useful way of being because it's unfamiliar and it's a novel and allows my brain to operate in a different way so when I translated into that language it all of a sudden it a lot more sense to me and became not weird at all if he came in interesting practice and do you still do it I do it when I feel I needed so either friends of mine who say I cannot live in the world if I don't do my 20 minutes in the morning simply that that's part of my routine I don't feel that way but there are moments when I say whoa I need to do it and basement circumstance based on what's Happening to given moment it allows it kind of mental reset if it's if that's a language that make sense and that reset I consider to be a valuable thing to do I also have a float tank here since I can't go into an MRI machine so I have a desk in my office where it's only about like one foot high and I slide my body underneath the desk close lock the door cuz I'm too weird and I stay under there as long as I possibly could just like 15-20 worst experience my wife might I did two of them last week about understanding I tell really yeah I don't understand why someone as smart as you would not recognize well there's just love sitting around me and I do I do but it's that's like the irrational part that thing I get in there my heart starts to pound when I come from I don't know because it wasn't always there and it had and it has gotten worse in certain there was a time there's actually times when I couldn't even go in a tunnel in a car the claustrophobia was that bad really I was in a taxi cab I had to go to New Jersey to Manhattan so I have to take the Lincoln Tunnel and asset tax is approaching the tunnel I said to the guy I can't do it I can't do it and the guy says blind I can't let you out it's illegal to let you out I said you got to let me out I can't do it and I just open the door and I got out maybe you're too smart can't you waited it there and maybe your Israel is playing tricks with you and giving you anxiety to sort of Shake It Up the world and yeah maybe you maybe the actual scope of the universe I just do a real simple type of meditation when I probably eventually going to take a TM course cuz my friend Tom Papa he's really into TM and heating heat Raves about it yet but when I just sit down and I breathe I just concentrate only on my breath and I ended comes and goes but I concentrate only on my breath and I find really good relief from that yoga is the same thing I do yoga I tried you at least twice a week when I yeah there's a lot of benefit in that in the same way in that it's so difficult and in the poses if you can only concentrate on your breath just balance and concentrate on your breath you'll be filled with activity enough with the with things to concentrate on with the balancing of the posture and then the breath that it is access a sore muscle brain scouring it cleanses the mind of unnecessary anxiety and a lot of other just baby do that for a long time yoga's been I've been pretty steady for the last four years right right and my wife does a lot of yoga she keeps telling me that I need to do it it's great for the body as well and I think the more comfortable your body is the better your beliefs from me instead of my mind Guy

here's the thing I've always wanted to ask someone like you what do you think was happening before the Big Bang Yeah it's it's a it's a deep question Anna Anna Anna subtle one and they should have two ways that I like to think about that question one is it could be that the Big Bang was an interesting event but not the first event in the totality of reality it could have been the first event that sparked the expansion of our part of but it could be that there's a grander realm of space within which we set as a small part and that Grandeur well may have been there for a far longer. Of time it may have experienced its own big bags maybe a collection of Big Bangs that may extend infinitely far into the past so it could be that the answer to the question what happened before the Big Bang is a lot of other Big Bangs or lot of other Quantum events that were taking place in a larger landscape of reality than we have direct access to however another answer is that the very question may not make as much sense as the words seem to suggest we know how to parse that since we know what it means to talk about the moment before the Big Bang because we know how to talk about the moment before your birth or the month before the Civil War or the month before any event that happened the world we fully understand the meaning of that kind of sentence but it could be that when it comes to the Big Bang the sentence actually doesn't mean anything it could be that the Big Bang the place where time itself started and honking himself had a wonderful and now it's yet to get this across you should look I'll dress it up a little bit imagine you're walking in planet Earth and you pass by someone you say hey can you point me in the direction of North I want to walk in the north which direction to point you continue to walk your path by somebody else say hey which way is further north and they point you in that direction or when you get to the North Pole and talk to somebody there and say Hey how do I go further north they look at you and say well that doesn't mean anything because this is where North Begins there's no notion of going further north than the North Pole and it could be that that spatial metaphor applies to time talk about a billion years ago or 10 billion years ago but if you go to 13.8 billion years ago the big bang that maybe were time started and you can't go further back in time than the very origin of time itself that freaks me out what you mean beginning of time why would time have a beginning good and it could be it could be the time is an emergent quality of reality I give you an analogy boy what I mean by that is we all know what temperature means intuitive like something's hot you feel it something's called you feel that your body understands those Concepts but physics is done is it done deeper into the concept of temperature and revealed that it is no what the average motion of the particles making up the environment so if the molecules are moving really quickly you've got a hot environment if a molecules are really moving slowly it's a cold environment so temperature emerges from the motion of particles have like one particle he can't really talk about it being hot or cold because you need a conglomerate Union agglomeration of particles to be able to talk about their average motion and in that sense temperature is this emergent idea that rests upon more fundamental ideas the molecules and atoms that make up reality maybe that's true of time maybe time as we know it is a property that only makes sense in certain environments when there's enough stuff arranged in the right patterns but fundamentally maybe there are atoms or molecules of time which one not arranged in the form that we are familiar with don't yield time as we know it time itself the equality of the world that exists here in this environment but doesn't even apply in other environments that are configured radically differently than everyone has what caused the Big Bang why would something smaller than the head of a pin yeah become everything that we see in the cosmos yet there are ideas for the answer to that question look all this is tentative hard to do measurements that go all the way back to beginning with astronomical observations that we need to be sure are compatible with the predictions of our theories and so forth so do we is good scientist do what needs to be done to try to test his ideas but the idea that I think most physicists are cosmologist by into at the moment is that gravity can have two manifestations do usual form of crappy that you and I know about is the attractive version you drop something toward the send it moves downward because the earth and the object pull on each other that's the ordinary gravity that we experience every day of Our Lives but Einstein's equations actually allow gravity to also be repulsive it can push outward as opposed to just pulling Inward and this is something that we have never experienced because the gravity created by a rocky object like the Earth is always the attractive variety the gravity created by the sun again Compaq object is always attractive variety but Einstein's math shows that they don't have a a rocky object that's isolated in space but rather energy that is uniformly spread through a region of space that that kind of entity yields repulsive gravity why is that important to your question if the very early universe that little tiny head of a pin you're talking about if it was filled with a uniform bath of this energy week the input on feel the name doesn't matter but it was filled with that energy it would have been subject to repulsive gravity was repulsive gravity do pushes everything apart causes everything to rush outward so the bang of the Big Bang may have been a spark of repulsive gravity operating with a tiny region of space that pushed everything apart and this concept of repulsive gravity is just theoretical and we observed any sort of element in the universe that this theoretical but it's at a level of understanding that I think most physicists would say causes it to migrate into the camp of established understanding of how gravity works the number one Einstein's equations have now been tested over and over again and a whole variety of circumstances the detection of gravitational waves just a couple of years ago is like date the crowning Triumph of Einstein's Matt the hundred years ago the math says baby ripples in the fabric of space a hundred years later we finally detect ripples in the fabric of space so we are very comfortable with any prediction that comes out of Einstein's mathematics and write in the mathematic is the prediction of what I was just a crap you've got uniform energy in a region repulsive Gravity the other thing is we currently witness that the expansion of the universe is speeding up not slowing down since the 1920s everybody thought that yes universe is expanding but it will slow down over time why because gravity pull things back together you throw an apple upward it doesn't go up faster and faster goes up slower and slower because the Earth gravity pulls it back everybody thought that would apply to the universe as a whole it's expanding but expanding ever slower the observations in 1998 culminated in 1998 which won the 2011 Nobel Prize show that the distant galaxies are moving away ever more quickly the expansion of space heating up overtime it's accelerating how do we explain that the best explanation we currently have is repulsive gravity We Believe even today the universe is suffused with a bath of energy we call a dark energy we believe it's uniformly going through space I like to think of it almost like a as a Turkish song that's like the steam feeling the song that this energy feeling space and that repulsive gravity we believe is responsible for the observations that the distance what is a rushing way faster and faster over time so it's circumstantial but the case for repulsive gravity is quite strong and what would have caused the coalit what would have caused it to compress an initially why would all that matter be in this tiny less than a pin-sized I have no idea and nobody else on planet Earth has any real idea other but we do have theories and one of the theories suggest that very early Universe it was a highly chaotic environment very hot with all the field fluctuating wildly up and down and the idea would be that if you wait long enough we're it's hard to know what weight means in this environment but don't press me on my definition of time back then just would have intuitively if you wait long enough on rare occasions the energy will just happen to flatten out in a region become uniform and then that region explosively inflates grows large so you know it's imagine you're looking at about a pot of boiling water the surfaces of course Wylie undulating up and down but if you wait long enough very long time since you've never seen it neither of us by there will be a little patch on the surface of that boiling water that flattens out why that only means that the water molecules happen for an instant to be moving in just the right way to keep that little patch of water from Wylie bubbling it will happen it's rare but if you wait long enough it will occur simile the why the undulating feels in the early Universe if you wait long enough a patch will flatten out you get the uniform energy plug it in time signs equations that region explosively inflate so I mean explosively it can go from a size that's much less than an atomic diameter to larger than the observable universe in far less in a blink of an eye in 10 2 - 32 - 35 II that's how powerful repulsive gravity can be so baffling so before that before this happens you just have in this Theory you just have all of his energy sort of randidly interacting with other energy in the universe with no physical objects yep yep could have been forever Point there's nobody who is hanging around looking at their watch saying good God when is this big bang going to finally happen you know so so you can have this a cosmological pre-show you can have it last as long as you like the only thing that you need to happen is that sooner or later a reason flattens out and then the cosmological show begins and if we're looking at this model of the universe being this infinite universe it was a different characteristics and different qualities to them this could be happening throughout Infinity yeah all over the place and in fact this so-called inflationary cosmology is the technical name for the subject said that it says that it's quite likely that this explosive inflation of the region that we currently inhabit it was just one of many such events and therefore there other far-flung regions throughout the larger cosmological landscape where things have also inflated but the details can be different the physical details can differ from what we are familiar with and the differences can be small temperature differences in one part of space versus another or they can be far more significant even need the particles that make up that other realm may be different from the particles that make up our round their masses can be different or charges can be different their fundamental physical features can be different so out there in that wire cosmological landscape it can be the wild wild west of realities and they don't have to worry about proton deterioration there maybe Realms in which they don't have to worry about protons falling apart the wild the really crazy idea is that if you're very careful mathematically and analyzing these theories you realize that there have to be Realms out there that duplicate horse as well many can be different but there have to be versions of this reality that are also instantiated occur out there and in other Realms so you come to these crazy sounding sci-fi sounding ideas that you and I are having this conversation out there and other distant Realms an infinite number of traps infinite number of times and moreover small differences can also arrive in these other Realms where maybe our positions are interchange at the table or you know maybe your name is you know Joe Greene I'm Brian Rogan or there's like strange realities that can be taken place and this is not an overworked theorists imagination this is the careful dispassionate analysis the mathematical equations implication and say what you guys have fallen off the deep end your theory has imploded because any theory that predicts that kind wealth of realities that are kind of untestable because they're so far away that we will never interact with them that's the kind of theory that we have been trained to avoid to exercise however the more forward-thinking I'd like to describe us business to say hey math has proven to be a very valuable guide over the course of hundreds of years and this is where the math it taking us it's at least worthy of our attention to investigated fully and possibly physicist say hey math has proven to be a very valuable guide over the course of hundreds of years and this is where the math at taking us it's at least worthy of our attention to investigated fully and possibly come to the conclusion that this is how reality actually behaved

do you ever listen to music when you're you're pondering an equation or whether you're going over a problem is initially questioned when I was in college I couldn't have any sound on when I was trying to say learn quantum mechanics and relativity I would find that it would capture my brain to fully and I couldn't focus on the equations that I was trying to understand but the funny thing is it in writing this book for the very first time I found that there were passages that I couldn't write if it was quiet I needed to have music playing because in some sent by focusing to directly on what I was trying to say I couldn't say it I only found that I can make progress in certain kinds of description by allowing my brain to fly off through whatever musical experience I was playing and allowing the freedom of thought to then emerge within that unusual for me environment kind of music real doing well it's buried incredibly lot of Slayer I remember there's one vital of patches on his writing words you know Pentatonix the they are a spectacular acapella group who are able to take songs that you have heard in transform them into sort of transcendence performances are you check these guys out but other times you know it would just be old rock loud Beatles loud Rolling Stones the soundtrack from the greatest showman are just blaring that thing and it just allowed me a certain kind of linguistic Freedom that I could not acquire in my normal way of being in the world which has everyone quiet let me just work out my equations and I need total focus and no distraction so is this something that you sort of evolved over the course of your career absolutely not there early on and you know there's this phenomenon I don't know if this is anything more than a metaphor or an analogy but whatever you know there's certain things in the night sky that you can't see if you look at them directly but by looking off access your able to invoke other qualities of the eye that are able to sense those features of the night sky and I kind of feel like it's the same thing sometimes by focusing directly on what you want to do you can't do it and you've got to look obliquely got to look off access metaphorically and that's the only way that you can accomplish what you set out to do and certainly music is one of the ways to take one's attention and shifted in a different direction to get that oblique view of what it is that you're trying to do and I have found that it allows for Progress at otherwise is unattainable and is that the case also when you're reading this book absolutely you know I have a very understanding so we have a house up so you we live in Manhattan you know I'm at Columbia but you would let me go up to our house Upstate with the dogs and by myself and I would disappear for weeks on end and I hold myself up in this cabin in the woods and I would sometimes right deep into the night and there are no neighbors around so I could turn on the music I would ever volume I found useful and I would do it and I would find you know that it's freed up a certain kind of creative thought process that to me was striking because I had never approached work in that way before and it was really deeply interesting so how did you come to this idea of doing it that way I just wanted to say I was struggling on certain things and I felt as though I am approaching this in a very flat-footed way I want to write about this let me know so I want right about human creativity or want to write about religious engagement and I am just doing what I've always done which is I have this equation and I want to solve it so I'm going to bring the tools of mathematics compared to solve it and I was approaching this writing project in exactly the same mind frame and as it wasn't working I said let me smack my brain around a little bit and and so one way of you know it could be psychedelic I didn't go that direction but I smacked it around by myself to be subject to a great deal of distraction in the environment around me and it really made a difference it's interesting you did it in a calculated manner I think when I'm doing mathematics it does need at least for me personally to be that kind of non-distracted total focus on what's going on as a writer it's a very romantic notion to lay out to go to the woods in a cabin that's what's up that's what everybody wants to do that right fight exactly missing is whiskey supposed to get drunk out there to get the dogs I hardly ever drink but it it was an unusual creative experience which to me opened up a different way of going about trying to to create things in the world

can you think of human evolution do you ever stop to think what are we going to be like a million years now if we do survive what have you ever done this sort of thought experiment will you say okay if things keep going the same way right we used to be very strong and very hairy and we're getting progressively softer as we don't need to use our bodies as much our brains are getting larger a happy getting bigger do you do you do that sort of thought experiment to see what we're going to be coming not in a systematic scientific way cuz the process is so fraught with Incredible detail that I think it's hard for anybody even experts and evolutionary biology to really tell us anything that will hold water that's really predictive but on a general level yeah I mean because I you know people often wonder why is it that we haven't been visited by aliens right this is something that comes up whenever you're talkin about other life inside the University be quite straightforward nobody out there cares about us because we're so ill developed we're so young on the cosmic seen that there's nothing interesting for them to find here on planet Earth so to me there's a natural explanation for why there can be stuff out of your life out there and yet they don't hang out around planet Earth just way we don't hang around an anthill to try to have a conversation with you know what's going on inside that particular structure I buy that argument the least you do butterflies are so boring where we're just hitting moles where we're interested in the house because we want to see the evolution of development that yields his particular life-form or because it's a general curiosity about how this object is put together if these other beings are so far beyond us at those kinds of tax in in taxonomy questions are no longer of any interest then hanging around here may not hold anything for them to make the journey and stick around long enough for us to notice I don't buy that again for two reasons. One because why would we assume that they're so far beyond us that they wouldn't be interested in these talking monkeys with thermonuclear weapon to dominate an entire planet yeah that would be fascinating the other politicians all lie to themselves everyone gets video through the sky if they fly and Metal tubes that Barrel over the over the oceans write a polluted oceans and eat all the fish like these people are f****** crazy guy who got to go there and check this out but but imagine that this civilization the notion of lording over a planet is like us talking about you know the aunt lording over a grain of sand so they may be lactic as opposed to planetary in her head gemin8 and the notion of some little tiny Rock orbiting some nondescript in the suburbs of this completely ordinary Galaxy off there on the side may not have the kind of pull that you imagine that it does how I disagree we think it's interesting we see a Champions a rock to open up a nut in a week we think it's interesting that you know there's there's an amazing photograph of an orangutan spearfishing of you ever seen it interested in these kind of qualities or a thousand years from now or ten thousand years from now another planet are more than 10,000 years the answer to that is we look at the history of the cosmos until today and it's say let's just calling our University concrete 13.8 billion years at me look at life on planet Earth and that you know a handful of billions of years old billions of years you can go from some complex molecules to human beings it's not that long a few billion years earlier in some other system you know stars and galaxies they were starting up you know a billion years after the big bang so it could be that life in other world has a head start on us by a few billion years and we know what can happen in a billion years ago from single-cell to us and you can imagine from few billion years from now into the future could be radically different so to say it's 10,000 years ahead of us that to me would be the Unexplained coincident how unlikely that they started we start with in 10000 years in the span of billions of years that seems unlikely as it doesn't seem unlikely when you're talking about the infinite size of the universe and is perhaps an infinite number Brian Grainger you're talking to an infinite numbers of me good good point good point that you're right we're almost guaranteed if the spatial expanse of the universe is simply looked at the are going to be places where it's within 10,000 Years War but those are going to be a very small number compared to the places where it's not 10,000 of them what is a look at a finite size ball in this large space so I can so everything's finite now get up 5 billion light-years call the number that are different from us by 10,000 years would be very very small compared to the number differing from us by a billion years were a couple billion years so then we buy the the log numbers if we imagine that the random process some physical principle that prevents life from emerging before say 4 billion years ago and if that's the case we're not aware of that principle then you'd be absolutely right that we'd all be roughly at the same starting point and there's no reason to suspect that they would be so far ahead of us but I don't know of any such principal but you almost have a reductionist view this right like you. So if you had a gas if you had $100 to bet it has alien life ever observed us you would say no vibes we could just turn a big telescope in our Direction and gather some radio waves you know but yes I would take that bet because frankly we've only been generating radio waves for the last you know that 70 years so it's only is 70 light year ball around us and within that small radius very unlikely that there's been some alien world that's examining us so it would have to be something that would be able to recognize our signal and visit us but don't lie look at observable planets in systems and discover Goldilocks planets weekend we examine those planets from vast distances away and wouldn't you assume that a life-form that is perhaps thousands of years more advanced than us with the exponential increase and get knowledge even if they ever got to the point where we are that they would CDs Goldilocks planets as well and recognized that Earth is one of them yes however if they are so far away there going to be examining Earth as it was hundreds of thousands or millions or billions of years ago if you truly want them to be examining Austin to sense of human presence on planet Earth then it's a much more difficult proposition to imagine that they back to be doing is it possible there's another way to examine things we are not hampered by the speed of life not not not home that I know of I mean any signal in the world that we're aware of is restricted by special ed by by the speed of travel which is angerment which is a strange property of the quantum World in which distant objects can behave as if they are one and then sometimes respond instantaneously to an influence in one location at a distant location no matter how far apart they are but that isn't really observing that more that's more realizing correlations between physical properties at widely separated locations but I'm not aware of a means of leveraging that to actually observe what's happening in some distant location even if you do have but that isn't really observing that more that's more realizing correlations between physical properties at widely separated locations but I'm not aware of a means of leveraging that to actually observe what's happening in some distant location even if you do have Quantum entangled particles

I went to a wolf sanctuary this past weekend talk to me what was depressing was first of all they neuter them when they get in there they kind of have to because I don't want to breed cuz they didn't the create more of the same situation but then the other thing is that they're in this pain and then they don't get to be free play wolves want to run and Hunt that's what they want to do they want to hunt that he never even released them into the wild or anyting listen to this these animals alive and they're feeding them and they do love them and they go in there and take care of him and pet him but to me it's like that's a f****** wolf that we'll should be on a mountain somewhere it shouldn't be living like that they're beautiful biologist has been on the podcast for I'm getting kiss right there by a wolf they're very sweet like you can you can some of them you can Pat and hug them and hang on to them and they like you but you're like people but they're f****** wolves like you eat your you're not telling them s*** like there's no sit lie down f*** you like there wolves and that they have somewhere and that is a lot of what they did they did keep a lot of them from being put down but but I left there feeling really depressed I just like all the big cats called cats it's always like someone who had a pet tiger who would like this would be cool and it wasn't in captivity in Texas in people's backyards in the water and all the wild of the world today staying in like a slow debate yet it doesn't have a bit about them like they're the only animals that don't feel bad for the zoo because they're walking around the zoo like another day with no lions lions Majestic I'm not sure where it is but yeah sure was a tiger sanctuary in Thailand it was so depressing cuz they were all drugged cuz you take a picture with a tiger two in a room in a room there's a pain and is a little cup that I need a couple of weeks old for 5 weeks old around people 6 weeks old and you can play with them but they're super energetic to jumping on you in a SWOT and things are playing with each other and rolls around and then as they get older it gets to a year to and then they stop the stop being natural than the older all drugged so you could be around a little or tigers and there's a bunch of handlers around everybody's real nervous they keep the the Tigers away from you and the tigers are they looking at you but they're there their they're kind of a year old then you get to the tiger Zinda just f***** up there all drugged they're all drugged that's crazy and I guess that's like that's like my brain never thought of like all yeah they must be drugged in order to be sitting in a room with strangers and not freaking out like I never Jaguar tiger guy like you always seeing the tiger that I'm playing around like they actually like the guy I'm not getting another one but he's got a tiger Rehabilitation place it's the same kind of deal like wrestles with these tigers and trees with a machete put things the wolf thing was a real bummer I didn't think I was going to buy me out as much but it don't me out I mean I'm happy to those people are doing it and then I think what they're doing amazing don't get me wrong but for me I just a feeling of like being around that thing I got a thing wants to run

I don't know I always I had this joke with like my teammates that I was going to get famous by being like the Nick the nip slipper like certain like Muay Thai clinch techniques to dislike. The girls do I get to fight the popular girls because like they knew only until I tried on the guys in the gym lift the shade up anybody ever done that on purpose in a fight with was I don't remember who she was fighting but Leslie Smith boob popped out once getting struck the photos like this girls gangster season saying I love her I love her she's K and she's so late nice I like such a hippie you know outside of that sounds like a really funny MMA Union I think she's still fighting for the UFC fighters even though she's not in the UFC I haven't looked into that like I haven't looked at like what do they what do they want what are they trying to accomplish what's not correct that they want to fix Healthcare not good enough yet or you'll see I think those are the things that they're working towards how does Healthcare where are you guys covered in training or you only covered for fights as far as I know if you booked a fight and get injured I think they cover it but I think it's also a great area where like they could not cover it and they're not legally obligated to fix you but I think in the past they have I'm not sure I can't think of any any examples where they haven't liked you know taking care of the medical expenses of someone who got hurt but I know like a lot of times Fighters don't claim it in time like after fights or it's like a little nagging injury that becomes a big deal further down the line I can't go in for like a loose tooth or like or like of a shoulder that I tore and practice if I wasn't getting ready for a fight and if you haven't really made a name for yourself yet sometimes you know even if you just don't ask like you don't get taken care of it's not like is not in your contract once you sign like oh I'm going to fight this many fights but there's nothing in there that says if I get injured after signing this contract I'm covered medically so so yeah I think that was that was the main reason I was like all this is a good idea just because like I know so many fighters who booked fights Justice danger is taking care of you know or they will fight injured and claim an old injury and like and that's their way of fixing whatever they broke during training so it's horrible I hope you don't get hurt in practice to the point where you can actually just go do it inside the Octagon outside of Camp because I'm stupid or or I'm just like f****** around like when I'm fighting someone who's my hand punching them break my break my leg break my toe like kicking them you know and it's even more difficult right because of the lack of people that are your size to train within your also train a lot with men and it's crazy because at a professional level like you're right there you know you just beat the s*** out of Hannah cifers it was a crazy fight my gear your in the heat right now yeah right there for you you're your you know you're at the top of the Heap in this Championship realm right and to train with people have bigger than you or to take chances like that like that there's no other sport that would have that dangerous is training with like some of the bigger guys like the like guys and girls are kind of like different sizes like if I'm if I'm training with a guy who fights at 1:15 he's going to be like for foot tall you know it's like the weight distribution is different but it's like the weight District distribution is different but like I don't know something about I guess training with women like the strands the 4th that's coming at you versus the forces given to them there's a ride I just feel like it's a lot safer to train with lemon for sure

did Nunez is a freak little do you know Alex Pereira Glory he's the only got his knocked out Israel adesanya knocked him out of kickboxing fight he's a f****** freak it's the same thing it's one of those weird guys where you know sometimes people just have this power weird freaky power eventually it because like you know Amanda Nunez didn't really do that for a long time and then after that catfight I think after the shevchenko the first shevchenko fight she just started finding our groove and finding that money Mark and then like serenity really badly hurt in the first round then cat just so top she came back in the second then while I'm stopping her Industrial yeah it's so good it's such a huge gap to get such a huge gap between like I don't know number one Contender and champ to pump up Caitlin and to make it seem like it's going to be good fight but all I could think of was like how is this going to be here Kincaid Lake you know close the gap a bit I didn't think so this is why because Caitlin she uses points she scores well but you very rarely knocks people out like she knocked down Liz Carmouche with a head character a girl is surviving Wonder Woman decision all those like shots at you through the volume it's different cuz there's put the shots out there and then comes back like woah does kicks come back if you like f*** elbow comes back and you like woah so now you're like now everything's more at a distance and you you lose your ability to engage you get nervous because every time being gay she's looking to take your f****** head off that girl is she know she's not fighting in Oakland right now like smelling scared to be a dominant chance and the guys who run the range for like the way that lady shoots she shoots like a f****** special ops Soldier we haven't seen someone come in here and shoot that good unless they're a seal or competitive shooter straight up killer stop talking s*** about a speaker groups like The Group

obviously gone through some improvements and some change look what's changed with you over the last like four or five fights because you keep getting steadily better but protecting the last two I think you should be on a four-fight win streak because there was Alan down in yin and she's on this card to get mad at me like spiders or other people but that was one where fans of her got mad at me because you guys were right in front and you had her triangle and I was yelling pulled ahead I was gallon polar head pull her head ahead pulled ahead and people like you f****** dick telling her to pull the hair 4 fight win streak she's like a strong girl looks like something's going on like you're on another level do you feel it like one love someone lost and I think after the Randa fight a fart Randa Markos about this time last year and and I was just so pissed at the way that went down because I was like super nervous going into it I felt like this was that was going to be a fight that kind of set me above the heat because Randall so tough and she kind of has that same like Uptown that I do so I'm like okay this is going to set me apart when I get a streak going this is going to the fight that puts me in a rankings and I and I put a lot of weight on it and it and I had like ESPN follow me that week too so I was just super nervous and like the entire time during the fight like I wasn't in the fight like I was overthinking every position like there was a point where I had ran up against again the fight seems like it was 30 minutes long even though it was like 2 minutes you know but like the moment that I had her up against the cage I remember like this thing if I hold her hair she can't do anything to me and that's like the exact opposite of what you should be thinking in a fight you should be thinking I need to hurt her you know like I need to her. I need to do whatever whatever it takes to look like I'm trying to finish the fight so I hesitated my corner was yelling elbow I didn't throw the elbow ran it through the elbow and then from there I was just like a like two steps behind I felt like and so that fog was a really weird thing for me because I never really thought about the mental side of fighting like I thought I was doing everything right like I would visualize and you know I tell myself all positive things and you know do do everything that you you think you have to do before a fight but that just kind of showed me like I'm not doing enough because I knew I had the skills to beat her butt or at least the skills to make it look more competitive but I didn't show it like it like the pressure was already there and then I found out about the ESPN thing and I feel like it was just me over because I've always had this I guess this fear of losing too much you know and it started when I got into the UFC I had like my tough I didn't go well but I was one fight you know in my MMA career and I was in the UFC already so I went on to win but then I lost two in a row and got cut and from that moment on a Mike's like people are just going to think of me of this person who loses all the time and then I went on a four-fight went streaking Invicta but then when I came back to the UFC I lost it dry and even though it was like probably the fight that people still talk about to this day even though great Cloud looming over like my confidence because of my record has helped she went on to to do such great things when it came to fighting someone like a similar story where she is talented but she's fought a lot of tough people and lost them or gotten like we're decisions against people I don't know I just felt like this was my chance to is that I'm not that like I'm a better fighter than my record shows until then when the ESP the anything was throwing on and I just like it was just me baking up a situation that wasn't that big you know like it was no different from you know my fight with Ashley Yoder I felt more present in my drive by it like it was no bigger than those fights but I just big tit up in my head and I felt like it was a result of me just pushing down all this anxiety that I have what time I fight not really addressing it I just started reading like those we me and my husband but he read them and then he's tired of doing like the mental coach thing for me but everyone everything every resource that I looked at says pretty much the same thing is that you have to focus on being present and being present each day and not like dwelling on the past bringing the pain into that present moment just trusting in your reactions and trusting in your preparation and so that's what I've been doing is like I have been doing like more like actual visualization exercises and just everytime I'm in the gym I just focus on being there at the gym I'm not thinking about like what's going to happen if this happens what's going to happen if that happens I just I focused on the jewelry non-exercise we're doing I go as hard as possible and I think just having that fight and having a goal so badly force me to go into the gym and just say f*** it you know and it is literally just like that f*** it mentality what's going to happen if I lose like I'm thinking that in the fight like it when I went to the gym the next it like blue like the next Monday I went to jail in like f*** it you know and I just went hard and like the next recession I said f*** it and I went hard and like those are like the best sparring sessions I had up to that date like people are guys guys who like you usually wouldn't really say much after your aunt something today like you dislike combinations and your volume and this and that like yeah you you're really getting after it like okay okay I think of like going to unlock something about what went wrong that's huge cuz they come up with some you know something that went that didn't go their way that should have gone their way and they don't address the real issue you're you're addressing the actual issues going on in your brain and you know that that's what it was I think yeah but is like something I kind of had to learn from the get-go you know we're going to a Go-Go Sport psychologist in the past and I really just feel like everyone kind of says the same thing so I feel like if you're getting it from any resource that's good like I started using that mindfulness app forget what it's called I had faith that really helped us just like can I calm my nerves and keep the anxiety from from being crippling sometimes what happens when you go to a coach is the fact that you physically go to someone and you sit down with us it's like a different level of commitment sit down with this person this person formulate a strategy for how you address some of the issues that are going on your mind and then sometimes you can hypnotist like Vinny shoreman you know Vinny it's like you're in a room next I'm going to do I'm like I want to know what that is you know and he is really good at working with Fighters at addressing each other a lot of stuff to like FaceTime and s*** to like it wasn't he lives in England but he's working with Joe Schilling he's worked with a lot of different Fighters but he basically tries to get you to understand personal you already on a really good path did you understand what you did wrong right and then you understand to be more present those two things are critical that's everything went wrong so you already doing that and then concentrating what you're really good at and just saying f*** it and letting it go expressing yourself being being with you that you know that you could be when you're on it's like how to capture that and hold that thought and then bring it inside the octagon and be able to recreate those feelings when you're actually under pressure of competition as you lay back and he just sort talks you through it it's very weird therapy and you definitely feel like a changing your brain weird stuff that people do in these comedy hypnotism shows where I was like I don't think they could do that to me cuz I'm not going to believe that I'm really on a cruise ship right now and Pirates are coming or whatever but it is like you're listening to his voice but you're in a different state of consciousness but you're able to put away the outside world for a brief amount of time and he concentrates on Flo the getting you to a state of flow that flow State when everything's going great know that feeling when you see things in your you're hitting someone with someone with something before you even know that there's an opening there hello the getting you to a state of flow that flow State when everything's going great know that feeling when you see things in your you're hitting someone with someone with something before you even know that there's an opening there

it's a great time in the sport that was so much exciting so many exciting possible matchups are you what do you pump for like when you look at the the lake to the UFC and it wasn't until the third round that I decided to use elbows and I'm pretty sure I dropped there in the third round and she popped right back up but like ever since then I noticed that like she would get hit like she would get hit rock like in the in the Taurus fight like teaching isn't known for having like knockout power crazy hands but she dropped her like a good like two or three times in the in the Taurus fight so I can see that that 10 was getting will you member the you want E&J check fight she just she ate off fuckload of shots Rose by she's getting picked apart the entire time sacrificing her head to get in and get the throw or whatever and then finally like you know gave out on her in the Willie fight so I wasn't like super surprise out I was I mean everyone was surprised so I won't say that but I did see that coming eventually like I'm like eventually someone's going to put her out just because it's not just a person's power that she's fighting but it's her pressures aggressive is he's coming in so hard so it's like her Force versus the other person's punch when they can act like she's not going herself out essentially like I wasn't super surprised and that was what my what I thought would happen when I fought her like I didn't go into that fight thinking man is going to suck you know I was like dude I can catch her like she drops her hands when she comes forward like my I can strike going it's like I know I'm going to catch her in like I can put her out because of the way she strikes so I've always seen that her hands were a bit sloppy even though she's super aggressive and the fact that she's so aggressive gives her that much success like you you can't ignore the fact that she's punching it as much as she is but it's still like very offencive and like with 0 defense in mind so surprised but you know I hadn't really seen that much of a Willy's angso so I was surprised that she was able to get the title of that that fast because she has a lot of output I think she isn't afraid to go to the ground I saw that and when she fought Tisha they had like a lot of crazy scramble she had good reverses for like teaches takedown attempts and stuff and and yeah just think it's going to be like she's going to force ioana to move into react more than most people I think like as long as she's like I haven't really seen haven't really can you tell like I'm a head movement she has but I do know that she just throws a lot of volume and wherever the fight goes she seems comfortable so I've never seen her in a spot where she looks like what do I do here you know like to see people freaking out against the cage or freaking out when they get taken down and she seems to flow that she has that athletic flow through everything so that's the one thing I think she has going for her but I do think you're on his reach is what made her so dominant she's little girl like watching her fight and draw there was a moment where like she's pushing and dried up against the cage and she looks like a bagel like praying mantis like she's a big girl with really long legs and everything love you yeah buddy like kind of up to my like I don't know like props or whatever when she was about to fight Michelle there are rumors that she was going to make late and so people are scrambling and then my manager my manager was like well I bet and it would take it if you guys wanted a fight and he is like seriously and he's like yeah she's crazy and I was there corner and my my teammate Lauren Mueller at the time so I was there chilling where every Atlanta I think maybe I forget where was it might have been Atlanta corner of my friend and time of the night that you know it's a fight offer so he was like hey yeah yeah it was like then he was like well what about Michelle at 1:15 he just wanted to know just so we can relay the message I was like yeah. Just let me know so I can like cut weight or not cut weight you know so I was sitting waiting for waiting for the call and then the rumors got like blasted and then people knew my name was in it for some reason I was just like who is talking yeah everyone was talking about it and then somehow somebody knew that my name was in the mix like Angela hell might fill in for Michelle and instead of filling for Ian I like it because she was like the name that was that they were promoting for the fight so so they wanted the former chance to get her fight so they're like all right if it comes down to it and he'll fighter at 1:25 that was pretty spelled I mean I feel like you wanna does a lot of things and it's similar with my matchup that I have now only she's a lot bigger you wanted does a lot of things that I've seen a lot of you know and training just like in my in my first years of Muay Thai like she has a very conventional style when it comes to moytie she's very good at it so a fight with Yoanna is always something that I've wanted to have just because of it would be something that I've seen before be like I'm not going to be you know I'm not going to be afraid of the Clint you know which and she's really good at not going to be afraid of the clients I'm not going to be afraid of when elbows going to come because of elbow sparked like my entire fight career so it's like it's like things that I see with her or less scary than a fight with someone that she's beat before like and ride or or a good Deli or someone like that so a lot coming this coming fight like what she's got left because that the transition 25 didn't really work out like shevchenko was just a little too much for should take it already beat her outside the UFC and then beat her again and then each just didn't look like she had the Firepower to keep her offer at 1:25 and then so she goes down to 15 to GHIN but we know how hard it was for her to make 15 and that's one of things that they had said or Tampa said about her chin when was pot roast like she's just couldn't because she was so depleted and we'll find out this way Lee hits f****** hard so determined like I feel like she was in a real bad relationship and was a contributing factor to a lot of losses so we're going to find out because you know when you go back to look like when she fought Jessica penne she was asked Aries woman alive like she was f****** ferocious when she was and she was lighting everybody on fire she was terrifying I'm so aggressive fight someone who was good who get who is actually a better Striker then her and Rose like the fact that just the fact that roasted move laterally you know like Jana was always like a back-and-forth fighter because that's like her style is very moytie and Rose just moving to the side every now and then are having head movement I think that really sucked her up and like it's hard when you when you fight someone like that for the first time or even Spar someone like that for the first time you can't find them you know all your punches message all right when you when you fight someone like that for the first time where you inspire someone like that for the first time you can't find them you know all your punches miss you gas out you freaking out because you're missing your punches thing you're getting countered and it's like a lot to deal with for straightforward more mytifi tirsa

at the top of the Heap in this Championship realm right and to train with people with bigger than you or to take chances like that there's no other sport that would have that women as well because even if some of the bigger guys like the just like if I'm if I'm training with a guy who fights at 1:15 he's going to be like for foot tall you know it's like the weight distribution is different but like I don't know something about women like the strands the 4th that's coming at you versus the forces are given to them there's a ride I just feel like it's a lot safer the train with lemon for sure for sure yeah they would be bigger than you gotta be strong you but you get used to that then you'd be used to men and then when you fight with women they would seem smaller and weaker so when I was at like my little gym in New York I was only trying with guys like the girls I would come in and they weren't at my level and that's the same story that most girls into UFC have you know they were the top of their he there like the baddest girl in the gym what are the girls and hang with the guys and I was me so it wasn't until I got on tough that I realize like everyone has the same exact background so everyone's tough because they were training with guys and you start to underestimate like how tough girls going to be in there like when you're fighting like tooth and nail like you noted as basically like until when you're ready to give in like a hundred percent in the cage it feels like just as strong as a guy you know it's so it's good to like still have those checks and balances like okay like yeah maybe she's not as strong as the guys I train with but she is going as hard as she can or she's defending it as hard as you can or you know she's taking my punches that I thought like I do if I drop this guy with this punched and this girl's going to get dropped to and it's not the case like she's just as tough a tougher so it's it's like a weird thing where like you have like I don't know you have different stats like stacked in some areas that guys don't and then they have stat stacked in the areas that women don't so it's like it's like if I was is like if I was like a a bantamweight guy who only trained with like light heavyweights you know like you're going to be faster you're going to have like you're probably going to be more technical just because you have kind of people that big so if you f****** a technique is not going to work but those guys are still going to be bigger and stronger and be able to like muscle you hold you down that kind of thing so I feel like that's like a similar difference better be nice he does same to you he's going to put you out and I was like shitt I never thought about that cuz I just assumed like I just assumed that like me Landing A Hard Punch on a heavyweight isn't going to hurt as much as me Landon A Hard Punch on someone closer to my size that make sense don't like their neck is bigger get it right then that's the only take so much so it's like that is a lot less than like if I was throwing a body shot you know like that's it's a little easier to be mean right there

this one lady who got arrested and she's got arrested for serving or selling all these different animals she was selling Eagles this is probably more likely to be like Cynthia's or whatever even though I got a ride. trunks around each other and it's crazy like they're not it that is not like a deer deer don't even know what the f*** is going on they make a truck that make the body that make the tea retrain an elephant to paint himself as it's so weird to watch or is it just incredible memories a bunch of things on a screen and chips can point out exactly what they saw if they get a reward like a big candy give them candy if they can lay out like some numbers and some things like in the in the correct order where you are at work what the f*** did I see it I remember we're burdened by too much information and data and also it's a different Champs can just do it watch I mean apparently this is like they train this elephant specifically to learn how to do this but it's still crazy impressive cuz he doesn't really good job but better than like a four-year-old would like a four-year-old person or do you know one of my kids and therefore they wouldn't do is go to job making a f****** elephant what thing is controversial because they taught the elephant had to paint himself but it still has like a elephant ride and I do feel guilty about it other than but they probably gave him some treat ya no I mean they're all drawn themselves as more than one duck what they are what an elephant looks like what is a says the truth about elephant paintings what is the truth they had not tracing that but like they must have trained them to make a certain shape so I doubt that the elephant knows that that's him you know but who knows PetSmart yeah but they only live for like a couple weeks does that work run around with them and then feed them sugarcane and then you ride them and I was the riding part I was like I don't want to do that I felt that big Hook when they so when we went to the one that we went to they have this like big pole with a little hook on it and it never like hit some or anything but it's just resting on like their shoulder I figured I'd like that was what they used to like get him to behave so it's like it's like someone sitting next to you before like a whip you know like you know what it could do it didn't do anything but you just know it's there no dude this place one through and I will definitely say is that they treated those elephants like pets through them really well and you can tell their relationship with their trunk around the people in the people would rub their head and they wanted to be around those people and then they would feed him a lot of sugar cane like we had big stocks a sugarcane in they would make you full to the Hardy was a real pillow Rehabilitation thing for elephants and a lot of the elephants have been in circuses and things like that and then they actually it reintroduced a lot of them to the Wild and when we were there these elephants are not in cages they were free roaming they just like they fill your hand and then they grab the tree around it and then back to a place where they can exist in the wild cuz they basically everything that's in the jungle just grab it need it I know what to do so while we're hanging out with them but they're there their disposition big and gentle gentle I mean so f****** big and they help you get up on them they lift their leg up and you stand on their leg and then you pull yourself up onto their back and then hang on to this rope that's around the vision seem to mind that you were on their back but still it felt like I'd rather just feed him and pet him yeah, it was really cool I wanted to go up to chiangmai but we were we're at this place called a I love the bathroom but that water is filled with s*** in the water while you're out there

but I definitely like being in there being active I train all year round like I don't really take big brakes unless I like hurt something so and most of my fights I come out injury-free if I do have injuries from like a fight camp in that from the actual price 2434 I don't know I feel like some something happened so after I guess Middle School and Middle School through high school to college and then after college I didn't do s*** like like right after college it's I look like this little skinny like stick figure you like just soft girl is a really weird so like when people see me now they like holy s*** like High School specially College like I was always just like really shy and really like soft-spoken cuz you're very funny on Twitter popular kid by any means so what brought you into more to our class and I was working at an animation studio and before that I've been bartending so I was like moving around and doing stuff and I never really felt like an active but once I quit the bar job and was just doing that full-time I just felt like fat and lazy greasy and everything that happens from like sitting down all day so I mean you know you like it outside of this Justin like you know stay happy yeah it was really cool discovering it like I was just asking around but like being intimidated girl in La not a box but then people telling me like only tie is like really cool and I was afraid of getting bulky you know they're like all know if you didn't wait I like you'll still look really natural you won't look like you're on steroids some girls who go hard and I like the CrossFit girls my first coach Brandon Levi does Evolution Muay Thai and New York and first class at 3 like an elbow and a knee on the Thai pads and I was like I'd like I feel so powerful and like ever since then I was just going everyday I was going with my husband like we were like getting and shaved line how to cake and stuff and it's just like a lot of stuff I never thought I'd be able to do I was doing it like even just throwing a head kick like I didn't like try out for cheerleading because I was inflexible is like I'm never going to be able to do this I can't do a high kick I can't do a split or anything like that the cakes on the head like it was like a huge milestone for me athletically I love a story like that we didn't do s*** middle school high school you didn't do s*** to your 24 and then all sudden you get addicted to it Legos on basketball team softball baseball whatever I ran track for like a few months and all that stuff I was just like this stupid like what's the point you know or that I don't know why I didn't like working with people but the one thing I was good at was stealing the ball in basketball run over and I can grab it and just like regular until they just like like they did just get mad at me and let go the bus ride still at an impasse it a girl that can shoot it was about nine months yeah so right away you like balls deep in this yeah yeah Lowe's around the time of that and he was taking a couple people down he was like hey you want to do WK if you want to have a fight those like oh are you sure like you share already and it's kind of halfway because I don't know if this is why he asked but once I said yes there was a girl that used to train with us was also doing it in my weight class is going to be fun that confidence in me cuz the all the other girls who were in the tournament had been training a lot longer than me for years even so yeah I was just like okay let's let's do it let's see what happens like I was scared but I was going to come from I was just fun at the time so I went and I beat to girls when the little the Regional Championship or whatever and from then on I was just fighting they had to show in New York on Friday Night Fights and and I got a few Shadows on that a few fights on that I went 14 and 0 as an amateur Muay Thai Fighter then when before I went pro I was trying to get an MMA fight just so I had like one or two amateur MMA fights under my belt so if I do decide to do it I have that experience but no one will fight me so I ended up going pro anyway had to Pro moytie fights and then I have my first pro MMA fight two days before the top tryouts what's on the tryouts where I think it's aired yeah I think our finale was like that December. Makes sense you've gotten so better so much better over the last two fights you're so f****** learning

I also think that this is what I said this about law enforcement to when you play a game and here's the game I arrest you I want to convict you cuz the game you try to get out of it I don't want you to get out of it now in competition it's a game it's not a game obviously it's the law and obviously you know people should be arrested that don't construe what I'm saying but whenever someone is trying to do something and the other person doesn't want you to do something people get competitive and people withhold evidence why I mean it's been so many f****** cases of prosecutors withholding evidence that could have people really stiff and they duplicate case there's a lot of those cases it's not just him I mean how many different detectives have withheld evidence Brock attorney that was held evidence is like you know you don't f****** amazing at helping people with this s*** is Kim Kardashian yes she is Kim Kardashian has gotten some fuk I think it's like the latest kind of like 18 people at least who are unjustly accused of crimes respect the fact that she did that to it's like she could be doing a lot more stuff with her time and she's just she's helping people so her that much care for her and go to the store right so you have to watch it and I'm like that's not a way to promote to tell people you have to watch it till you just want I forgot that she had a TV show she's she's one that sort of slipped Into Obscurity on purpose it seems like she's doing her private to public scrutiny and people hating you start a trend I wanted to like her too I wanted to be I did not want to just like her for that reason I'm like it's too easy like all these guys hate her but then she came in I mean I get it I get it because it wasn't pleasant I could have been better then she came in I'm happy I got it I get it because it wasn't pleasant I don't hate her I just feel like I could have been better of Wonder like

I went on did you remember there was a show called the best damn Sports show. It was like a old school sports show 2000 something like early too. I went on the shows like Tom Arnold and all the people that were on it but anyway I was telling them like I do the splits going to be huge I go it's it's the most exciting sport in the world and I think it's going to be as big as any other professions for laughing in my face what are you talking about cage fighting this no f****** way that's ever going to be popular what's up Jamie is a parody account that people didn't catch on to I think so yeah yeah yeah she's killing in there she came to train with us again she was one of the first people who are at Alliance when the first girls so that was one of the reasons I went out there and that was Remy but also had girls like it like the thing the saying about like training with women is like it after the teacher Torres fight I was just like yeah I was under estimating how strong was girl could be in do what you're supposed to do so it's like you either show up a month early or two days before you fight and I showed up 10 days before I file I was like 10 days and it was like I was like right at the peak of like when you really start feeling that altitude sickness so I was messed up from the altitude I was sick from the I forget what they call it the month is it oh my God I was at work the entire f****** 10 days like literally like walking at 1:15 and so and you can see it in my fight pictures do like I look like sunken out like my old ways I photos we're going to f****** stand and bang everyone's going to be excited we're Mexico they love each other half guard and I'm just pissed AC. I'm like on the ground and f****** leg like a booty call at half guard and I'm just pissing like come on

so when I when I was in my career and just kind of getting you know kind of trying to figure out like what was an extra make you know it was hard you know it was just a hard place because yeah I really have anybody to talk to you I don't really know what I was going to do next in my life you know and then when I started fighting again I still was in that place where I just wasn't you know totally back to fighting my mentality because fighting is is something mentally that it it takes a certain mentality for you know in infamy fighting with something that I did to exercise some demons a bit you know but but having some time away from the sport it allow me to figure out other ways to exercise soejima demons in you know figure out some things around if you know the things that made me mad at things that were my fuel before I kind of made peace with them and it making peace with a lot of things that I was using for my fuel it just change play I fought in the way I seen fighting so coming back to fight I just wasn't that same fighter anymore and then when I got to the point where I was like man I can't keep myself like I was like man I'm not fighting the way I want to fight and you know there's I mean what's the point if I can't go and compete where I want to I'm only towards myself so then I decided to retire but then when I retired I was still wasn't up space were all that man is still something missing so then when I did 5 Meo DMT that kind of put things in perspective in a whole different way you know and it and it just it it change me it changed me a lot to change the way that you like I said the way I think the way I eat everything everything about it you know so it was it was so cathartic until medicine is so many sense of the word you know you think that something like that would be really beneficial for Fighters that are in the Twilight of their career I think I think it could be every fighter gets to a point where you fight enough then fighting it kind of a kind of you kind of getting a weird space about and you know I seen Fighters go through that. Where they just kind of like figure out that why am I still doing this you know they've had Great Moments Inside the Cage but then they have those down moments and those down moments are the moments where it's harder to come back from and I think those are the times where you you know a psychedelic or something like that could put things in perspective and in a lot of fire to see the why behind the reason they're doing it and maybe create a new why it's you know like what happens to them if the f****** coronavirus hits and I get lye doors for 6 months and just become a agoraphobic and is your s*** well we were talking about this the other day that most of what this is all happened from the Reagan Administration during the Reagan Administration they change the standards of what it means to be mentally ill and they just released people from Asylum didn't want to pay for it all and you don't look if La is Elias city of 20 + million people which is as many people in La as I think is in all of Australia so think about that think about the amount of money and that they can't make a silence here thinking about how I abandoned buildings there are through how much money how much money would it cost if there's currently someone the neighborhood have thousand homeless people yeah they said there was some statistic that said there's more empty apartments in this town then homeless people the thing is though those folks don't just need a place cuz they'll f*** that play at a rehabilitation and they need medication and they need counseling and they need me and some people I don't I mean I'm not a mental health expert some of them you might not be able to do anything to and also they get so filled with despair I knew a bunch of guys that were homeless back from my pool hall days was a bunch of guys that would hang around the pool hall they would even sleep on the floor and you know I knew guys who try to sleep in people's couches asleep at the bus stops and then they've come to the pool and try to hustle up enough money to get some drugs and out it was they were stuck in this place where they could never get past where they were they were just in a rut and they can never get out of it and it was it's heartbreaking despair despair cuz you're just like what happened since the other day I'm walking down Santa Monica Boulevard over by Barney's Beanery and the I just hear up and I had to be 22 23 years old and I was like what happened where are your parents what time do that you meet in this town will you meet him early in their journey and they still have hope like it's not worked out yet but it's going to I'm going to make it and then you run into in comics you're so I mean that's the thing I think I've is so relatable and field as well cuz you your people have been fighting for 400 years okay first of all I'm in the midst of my question in the ears that your people that part of the question became incredibly important and Ruby were very sensitive about that because you said you said of our people golden medaille I'm not speaking for him I'm just doing what you said he said my people have been fighting for his so if he had said our people I would have said our people but I can't take possession of your quote it's not me saying it ramp up at this time and he starts shouting my face like your people too so you know what I'm talking about he said don't try to bait you know what I'm talking about when I say these things around like can you tell them what you talkin about what he said to me on numerous occasions and different interviews and off-camera I know exactly what he's talking about and I know that this moments that you finally get to talk about it right the people who have never been listening to him before but it took me him he couldn't he needed to keep saying it I don't know why you were saying you're my people to my people to so what I wanted when I wanted what I thought was happening was that okay this moment now has become about him like attacking me because he thinks I'm attacking him he thinks because I do know he's talked about he knows we've spoken about it numerous times not said no like some Uncle Tom the internet as though I'm trying to return like a long-drawn game to you know Institute Market reforms Usher in the richest for the for the middle class a lot of people out of poverty but in a very controlled way in in a way that's like she doesn't think about Asian culture if you understand it's that the there's a fundamental difference between the China dream and the American dream right at incision pain is outlined what he thinks is this kind of dream it's it's it's basically a top-down way to to the golden National goal and and basically what they're trying to say is that what we're going to get Lyft poverty but you have to meet your generation has to make sacrifices it's not about the individual it's about building a strong China and implicitly also about ensuring that the CCP station called Chinese Communist Party Station power but it's it's that you might have to give up you know personal sacrifices for the sake of China versus the American dream is is it's about your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that's it and if you do that that's the Americans if you achieve a certain level happen. You know it's all like if bottom-up it's not it's not centralize and it's not something that the Chinese government is trying to stuff down your throat and China's willing to play the long game so it is still a leninist Marxist government still believes in all of that that's why it's also to tell Terry but it's you know they know that like the way to get gain power in the world is to get rich they did it on the backs of trade with other countries to very unfair practices actually been kisses so if you think about like housing I think they're there a lot of estimates of how much they've actually stolen from the United States corporate corporate Espionage now even like they didn't listen to that guy was in connection with some weaponized program offering a lot of money expose on this offer money to like academic cuz you know it's going to be one here and send self like not paid that well but China's dangling like a lot more money it's okay if you do research here in China there's going to be like less bureaucracy so that's their way to lyrics people in he's getting income for me I was he hiding it didn't report it and

but they don't want you to like what they don't like which is you know it's. Bubbles it's what it is like people love when you are between two people love when you're predictable right that's one of the reasons why people love when people dress up in suits you dress like a suit in a suit in you act like a business person you used to say words that are you know you speak in a very very similar way the other people that you work with and it makes it easy to map out what you're probably going to do and how you going to react is a very narrow band that you're operating in when you wearing a suit in the tie invented office there's a narrow band you can be the a****** Suit & Tie guy or you can be the standard you know it work language human being a gentleman you know that that kind of stuff is that's people like that because they know that they can kind of predict you they know what they know where you going from the when you're eccentric and when you're outside the box you're unpredictable and eclectic taste if they don't like it you have the interesting ideas that are that are completely irreverent and don't fit into these pattern like what is what is she up to what the f*** is going on her head. They're watching wrestling pro wrestling play religious if if they if you're deeply religious and they're deeply religious they know that they can talk to you in a certain way without the Lord has a way of making things work out yes it does Compu has a dust and they know that you're going to think in this narrow bandwidth you're not going to get outside that box your your good Christian why I know Mike & Mike's a good Christian you know and all that stuff I hear about him just doesn't make any sense famous narrowband will that's why politicians almost always adopt some form of religious ideology even Trump trump was basically never religious is entire life never and now he's got a religious that lady who has is basic like a wacky manager she's like a wacky manager in the WWE that talks to God and helps Trump out that's how I look at it I'm like this is his wacky manager he's got a character now it doesn't go all the way to the outside edges but I wouldn't be shocked I I don't see religious lady really pretty isn't she all the threads of my life it's just that I I definitely opposed the one I'm going to win again I'll have to do is listen this crazy lady talk to me about Jesus if people going to buy into it it's a great move you know I mean he didn't go secular at all right but if you look at his past and its history like he's not a really just got and all sudden he is and nobody even questions it I think is performative church-going I don't think he's going to do adderall together to listen to ACDC at f*** like rabbits church-going I don't think he yeah okay you can go back to do adderall together to listen to ACDC a f*** like rabbits

there was an article today where they've confirmed that Huawei has some sort of third-party back door with a lot of their Electronics a lot of speculation to why the United States was Banning Huawei from the major providers from very close to releasing some they have some amazing phones and they were really close to my Facebook could ever be you know in your phone tell me why what is what are your thoughts on it and Huawei it with respect to the next year of the digital world is the next Sputnik like it is the Sputnik issue we should be doing everything we can to 22 not out how far are we to you have this big market share and the person who started it wasn't somebody that had a lot of party connections to to the general or something and it's really late really offering away that's very opaque and we'll have to have connections to the government's especially when you're that big and because you can expect that that whatever information that they would have to answer to the government whatever the government wants if you're willing to put your privacy in the hands of an entity like that you know go ahead but know also that all these Mass surveillance policies its I just wouldn't trust them Chinese manufacturers of cell phones and the government connection and also let you know just it's also heavily subsidized by the government has been competing kind of unfairly you can drive out innovation in the United States by by making sure that your local version is so competitive from prices that they can't match you so in a way it's like a form of economic Warfare which is one of the issues that Trump has really pushed back on its the China trade issue it's interesting because I think the Democrats were a lot more you know protection is when it came to trade right there were the Republicans and Libertarians always like free trade free Trail everything like we don't let's globalize the world Thomas Friedman position when he wrote about it in Lexus and the Olive Tree that if we globalize the world that I cannot that you're at you you look a lot of people are poverty or economic pie gross but your politics drink that was the idea right no two countries that have or something like that. Was a theory and in the case of china obviously that didn't happen right like the part about the politics changing relating to China I was you know I was a little stunned it was so open and can you explain what happened going to they're supposedly autonomous region China promised them that they would be two systems one country two systems after the Handover in 1997 from the British 222 China slowly kind of eroded that in many ways and their freedoms have been kind of diminishing basically was after a case that happened the criminal case and the Hong Kong people knew that this law if it goes into effect basically gives the Chinese government legal right to disappear kidnap anyone and bring them for trial and some sort of kangaroo or show trial in in in China and booksellers it's always huge the politburo huge and so there was a Bookseller call Causeway books when they were publishing all these like accounts from within the and the owner of that. basically we just have allowed China to do that legally this time so the Hong Kong used for us in arms that you know that they were tired of all there were two ways that their way of life has changed since the British handed it over and all kind of pine for the good old times and they were under a colonial English how big do but China Market is for the NBA right like that all these players have contracts with them inspect the Houston Rockets hit a lot of contracts with the Chinese cctv4 broadcast they also had like merchandising opportunities sneakers that were made it there and that caused the huge huge outcry in China they were just like us I'm sorry for hurting the feelings of the Chinese people and then like all the other NBA players actually came out and and you know kind of took the side of the Chinese government like alway who are we to do you know when they're so strong on wrong on other forms of activism Charlotte North Carolina the bathroom with the biggest oppressor

I've heard intelligent people make this conversation about other intelligent people that disagree with them like Ben Shapiro that like Ben Shapiro should be deplatformed because Ben Shapiro is indoctrinating people towards right-wing ideology by having the sailing points and articulate sentences and these these rancid he goes on he speaks very fast to get a great grasp of the English language is very compelling and the ideas doctor dating young people will know he's speaking with passion I don't agree with him on a lot of things but I certainly agree with his right and he's like when he's he would never go to a gay person's wedding he wouldn't have he wouldn't even go to the celebrate after party of a gay wedding and I'm like what this is all for religious reasons like that ridiculous I will you care my my perspective is what do you care if his prospective is he couldn't support that because of religious reasons so then we go deep in the hole with why how deep do you go with Jesus came back from the dead like he doesn't he's Jewish it's a different perspective by do you think you know that do you really think that God thinks that homosexuality is some sort of a carnal sin in in in in in terrible if so God made why do they make homosexuals please explain that what what kind of a weirdo is God that he gives people this urge to be gay but then he tells them fight that urge and then he makes his comparison to that's like murder sometimes you want to murder people make okay that's different people all day everyday I know a lot of dudes all the time it's such a crazy thing to their system and for you to believe in God but have a problem with that to me ridiculous so now we're banking on these really ancient words that were written by people with no grasp of Sines no understanding of biology no understanding of the culture of the world don't understand these people and taking into perspective that you know you're literally dealing with under what percentage of the population is gay the goal should be a cohesive Society where people are comfortable being around each other with all their differences whatever it doesn't matter the individual should matter and the way we interact with each other that should matter by these things that were written down thousands of years ago before people had any of these understandings of all the sudden chances of humanity and all the differences of people haven't and now the biological understands why they have these differences what you're dealing with ignorance you're you're applying these ancient ignorant rules to a modern world will we have a vastly expanded understanding of human beings f*** off you have parents were super Christian like I understand it was going to hell it was because of this belief that she's going to end up burning in Hell Tour coming from a place of Love GS and it's based on Bronze Age ideology but but you know I don't think that that either with or a daughter that she loves her and he talks about that it's all the sudden you see stammer in and it gets weird cuz he knows it's nonsense. he's a decent person he's a nice person he's very friendly he's funny I enjoy his company a lot I like Ben Shapiro I really do I think he's a brilliant guy I mean the gay things the biggest one cuz me that's the dumbest one like it might it always comes back to why do you care that's all it is to me like why do you care I don't care why do you care if someone's gay like if it if it doesn't affect you how can it affect you are you do you have your fingers and everybody's business likes crazy doesn't make any sense to me that argument against gay marriage like what why does it affect 12 the sanctity of marriage remember man that is so dumb to a f****** drive-thru and get it and get married at a drive-thru movie theater I mean that's really what it's like when you get married anywhere so ridiculous

and you know right now also like with the rise of China they're also starting to use like basically is some form of like electronic tyranny right they're able to really censoring the internet in the way that's been unprecedented Access Wikipedia and now it's that part to me is dangerous because you know I think both Faisal and I came to America with this like all right this is the place that we can finally be yourself and think for ourselves right and we're starting to see that the whole world seems to be going the other direction, society and now capitalism at least in a monetary sense is embraced so this is giant shift in what China actually is which corresponds to this huge growth is it possible that in the future this shift could move on to other aspects of Chinese culture like discourse or the way they view the government or even some form of democracy behave now you know they call it socialism with Chinese characteristics that's the official name of of this long-drawn game to you know Institute Market reforms Usher in the richest for the for the middle class left a lot of people out of poverty but in a very controlled way in the way that's like she doesn't think about the there's a fundamental difference between right King is outlined what he thinks is the China dream it's it's it's basically a top-down way to to the golden National goal and and basically what they're trying to say is that okay we're going to lift a lot of people out of poverty but you have to meet your generation has to make sacrifices it's not about the individual it's about building a strong China and implicitly also about ensuring that was ccpc but it's it's that you might have to give you know personal sacrifices for the sake of China versus the American dream is is bottom-up it's about your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that's it and if you do that that's the American dream and if you would Chiefs are a little happiness in you Chief you know it's all like if bottom-up it's not it's not centralized and it's not something that the Chinese government is trying to stuff down your throat and China's willing to play the long game so it is still a leninist Marxist government teaching still believes in all of that that's why it's still so totalitarian but it's you know that they know that like the way to get game Power in the world is to get rich and they did it with other countries corporate corporate Espionage now even like Academia is being infected so also. this was this was different the head of the the chemistry department and Harvard was found to have lied about receiving money from the Chinese government so there's this program, thousand talents program basically they're offering a lot of money the New York Times with a really good expose him as well left bureaucracy so that's their way to lyrics people in France tractors getting income for me I was he hiding it report it and

your Instagram is hilarious by the way but also very funny nonprofit organization yeah we thought you'd be spent like what a trillion dollars on the Warren Tara and what was the results right like Wheatley marched in and feel like they were going to bring freedom and democracy to people but if there were no cultural institutions to kind of nuts people to understand why they should value freedom and democracy is it really a surprise that it failed to take Route there so that's what we basically organization you know we basically take acquire the rights to books that are not available their translate them into Arabic for free and then we just like loaded up on the library site anyone can basically access that download it so like if you look it up would you even understand what the word verbally means so how did you get involved in this and it's it's so issue with that look for me I I just felt like throwing up I was not I was kind of like you know what my issue is that like there was no freedom of thought freedom of speech in Singapore at the government is trying to control everything I can think is part of the human Spirit you know that if you say you can't have something we'll just the ground if you if you try to ban it so it's the whole Spirit of a punk rock of like a feudal system and that's just lies and almost you know everything the heart where she see that with our books right Temple you know a lot of books are actually like transmitted on these telegram groups in Arabic so the Gap that we're trying to plug right now it's that the books are not available in that language this is crazy statistic more books are translated between English and Spanish in one year than English and Arabic in a thousand years and you know you're at your average person living in Syrian refugee camp isn't going to learn that quickly they are 10% living Arrow say Saudi Arabia and like 10 out of every ten times one time there's no answer because the page doesn't exist or you know it just the word feminism doesn't exist in Arabic so you can look it up while secularism it's kind of its how do you expect people to kind of break out of there or their indoctrination I just want to live in a world where being ignorant is choice for everyone has a choice for us like you're like just like basically you spend your nights watching The Bachelor or let you know whatever it is it's like does I'm calling you out and you know you know you watch that s*** bro parts of the world when the problems of getting them to shift their perception of the world is that they're not exposed all the great works but not exposed to the debate in the Quran is actually read but they really mean just this one thing and you know just the sort of like eight habits of a free mind are not really cultivated and also when you were taught when growing out not to question things and in part I understand because I think when you grow up in a household with like you know tiger parents there's this sense of like you don't question my authority if you kind of grow up in that environment you're going to internalize all those things and that's why it kind of you know follows you overtime so when you were in school you're taught no questions really interesting for you to go from this one fairly restrictive environment to a fairly open environment and did that shift that happened in you and being exposed all these different I did that spark this desire to help other people so to expand their their their ideas and what they're supposed to I want a Sunday school too I was like I was that kid was just like you no excuse me but why why did the dinosaurs what why is in the Bible that the dinosaurs and and and human beings walked you know basically like days apart when like we know from science that it was millions of yours and fossils and of course of course play listen must be the God was testing people and this is why sacrum in the Middle East asking a question could be deaf right if you if you even remotely like it's inside Arabia festae remotely reveal that you might be having a theistic thought that stuff was like we're talkin about different scales and degrees with censorship and consequences for that and I think when I met my co-founder Faisal you know I was like okay I guess I have I had issues and countering violent extremism US Army some things okay you know that this is where I'll cat is this was telling my friend here it has been like radicalized and kind of you on a Hit List you know because he was not sympathetic to their cause and so I ended up on the deathless his brother killed just horrible story sequence of saying what you think there is like at least in my case was just like a maybe I might go to jail in Singapore with an environment must be like because we're so accustomed to this idea of freedom of speech and yes it's so ingrained you rebels are appreciated Maverick sing I think you know as long as America still can celebrate Mavericks and Tall celebrate them where we're going to be right of human behavior when you see any for me dictatorship propaganda or control by the stator by industry that stuff that you see in other countries is human beings in 2020 I mean we would like to think that our Constitution Bill of Rights and all of our ideals and what this country was founded on is going to keep it from deteriorating like that and most likely it will but the reality is those people in Iraq or human beings in 2020 and they are living in a completely different way than we're living right now at the same time now at the same on the same timeline as things did not go well there and they're stuck in this horrible situation where they are controlled by these religious Fanatics and they are stuck and there's not a lot that they can do other than Escape

I think I read an article recently that Andrew Yang was kind of dragging asian-americans back to the left but remains to be seen you just dropped out so that was really my I know what the basic b**** intellectual dark web choice either Hamilton was but I really really but I really really like them does an illegal coin flip does a terrible coin flip the whole thing is just so weird seeing it play out and see it play out so transparently so many cooks how many billionaires donate drop out fuel speculation on NYC the African American Community is not happy about some issues stuff talks really well and he's handsome and he's a veteran was a good thing to like f****** run them for me that's why I like if you hate politicians which he's the least heart to hate talking to him he's so normal he's like a guy who runs some tech company or something that's what he feels like when I what's between grandstanding posturing and just like being normal person so absolutely Alternatives that we see around the world

one of the culture shock things for me when I first moved to America it was that you know I think a lot of American kids were told like participation trophy culture a lot of them were told that they were the best David telling their friends on practicing going on American Idol didn't nobody tell them that grow like you should just be singing the shower nobody told them attempting to eat bull testicles and it's now a show on the Food Network right now those people are delusional the mentally ill they have like legitimate mental health issues and then they go on saying and they sound terrible and no one tells him because it only friends who are the reasons why not that they love you and care for you that's just how it is and it's so you kind of internalized that and then have very low self-esteem and but you kind of know your limitations right that's the problem like when I when I moved here was that I realize like a lot of the kids I went to school with man I wish they had the confidence you know it's like they are inflated sense of self drink this and get nervous I grew up around a lot of Koreans because I I did Taekwondo from the time I was young and they was around when I was younger I was in medical school so he's going through his CN training to be on the national team so while he was studying he would put his backpack on Phil's backpack up with books and run upstairs of the University run up and down stairs to get some additional workouts in he was trying to train for the US team while he was doing his residency and it was all through sheer will and he was explaining that to me about what it was like it's like you are never good never never does nothing ever good enough you know no matter what you do you could have done better you can work harder you can always do more work equals success and people of Asian descent Publican politics right off of pull yourself up by your bootstraps you don't even handouts the harder you work the more likely Wenatchee something that's why there's such a natural you know Ally to rely on this group block as a political group if you're Asian because there's so many Asian people that get in they made it more difficult it is raining managed that they have to do better than white people they have to do better than everybody else which is crazy lower the scores a little farther group than me. do you want to see more personality ultimately this is about you know like what Aristotle quality Louis right what is the loss of higher education what's the ultimate goal or Essence of higher education is it to Just Produce perfect cogs in the machine of the global economy or is it you know to produce engaged citizens or whatever it is right however you to find that question what the purpose of higher education you could Taylor your entrance methods to meet that and this case they decided Well you know we're going to instead of just looking at your GPA your essay we want to see one interview the person want to see what your personality is like can you thrive at Harvard are you going to be a good contributing member of of this University was downgraded like extracurriculars academics are so strong on standardized tests but when it came to personality they were very consistently downgraded the argument right but suck in general so you know if you're going to be like that I was coming to America like 10,000 miles away right from the place I want to go to school cuz like I could have just stayed there but I was looking for for for something that wasn't a monoculture t-shirt it is unfair it is kind of unfair if they were penalizing you based on race at the hard part of proof whether or not this was personality or race or some sort of you know other thing that they were selected for that happened to correlate with race and that's the part that that's hard and so they just sort of emphasized personality and emphasized social social interactions and in doing so they penalized Asians without being aware of it habits like we're kind of like you know we've been told that there's only one way to succeed work hard and Suma Kum laude and all these things were so so a lot of us kind of our are culturally a line on that and and you know the three kontrabida campus in the same way that you're active student union leader would involve another curriculars I don't know I don't know if they would Harvard want a diversity of of behaviors and interest oh yes it's like pouring stem people walking different stuff and you also want people that raise the bar really high in terms of performance you do other people's understanding of what's possible that's fine I'm like UC Berkeley State institution they abolish affirmative action UCLA all the UCS did look at the population 70 80% Nation people very uncomfortable to talk about differences in group up come because we have to kind of make everybody the same or else there must be some sort of systematics think they get away with discrimination against them and there's actually quite a big pro-trump Asian-American building block you know issue in New York city that has happened to under the Bellagio Maryland Public School situation there they want to lower you basically it in terms of the public high schools policies action

it's always hard when someone does side on the walk like what are you doing this cuz you think this or are you doing this cuz you think it'll make people think more highly of you if you do it it's such a contrived thing today it's so difficult to figure out why people are acting the way they're acting so when they were acting in that way it was so transparent it was there was no if ands or buts about it like they were pressured and they were worried about the money they were worried about it you know whatever Fallout was really obvious this like you guys are threatened because I think I'm the website they list it like countries that we're in and it was like they put Hong Kong Macau and Taiwan and China what are you doing this is all China if you don't change that website you're not going to be allowed to do business and everyone wants a share of the Chinese market that's a problem it's like the biggest Market in the world may be India's bigger but well at least in the future and they will get bigger butt Texas to Chinese market so so they're able to use that as leverage basically bully companies even movie execs the prettiest the content they want so several I think we'll War Z was affected you know the other movie was Doctor Strange the Marvel movie where the character played by Tilda Swinton was supposed to be tonight in monk but you can't like to bet this life hot-button issue for China for Independence so they change the character it wasn't a Tibetan monk it was this big change it to Celtic Monk and they made it to be a woman playing the character instead of the Chinese government yeah but be checked the rewrote it to to reflect the Celtic Celtic female monk and they have these like his jacket people noticed that there was a patch that was like missing and it turns out like that patch it was like a for some reason just triggered by it and it was gone remove it so many whores I think like one of the solution to this is to really like start really started website maybe we need to just track all the stuff all the companies that have count to our kowtowing to China all the ones were staying in the ground you know and so you can decide where to put your money their overall budget right outside of the United States the third one is Japan and it's it's like 1/5 of China basically so it's not close and Prophets it's weird that it's not easy just just throw some money around and people change their culture and their their position was if we don't do this they're going to copy our search engine and just steal it all the intellectual property or we can work with them and provide a center version of Google and I remember sitting there going this is almost like legalizing drugs like it's messy there's no good way here this is their bolt they both suck like but it sucks if they steal in the intellectual copyright that if they they steal the ideas and create their own version of Google it also sucks if Google goes over there and self sensors and provide them with the ability to filter out information closing argument that if it was Google at least maybe they have one tentacle in China and so therefore it might be able to change things are keep a pulse when you have their phone something there's the argument so they're their new phones they have to have phone apps is with the the meat E-40 these ones call their newest latest flagship phone then they can't they don't have access anymore either some some apps you can sideload from the web and you can download them directly to your phone but for the most part their access to the Google Play Store completely shut off so the thousands and thousands of apps that feeling you want a lot of people everything it's not the phone itself at the apps if you don't have Twitter and Instagram and Facebook and you know whatever the equivalent are in different countries you or your kind of s*** out of lock the tiniest they always use that their Market is still closed shut you out if I'm right if you don't do this what we should be doing the same which I think is what trumpet tried to do with the Tariff penalize you unless you open up something you know their unfair Trade Practices for a while

Richie's brother was a mixed martial arts commentator was a sports guy he did World Combat championships I think it was called it was like he was like one of the he was the play-by-play guy for the color was the play-by-play guy and it was like the early days of fighting when the UFC at just started and henzo Gracie fought Oleg taktarov and Richie's brother was there the play-by-play, really. Yeah I like he did the Jon anik Mike Rick Roll yeah this is so crazy because I I don't think at the time I had even done any work for the UFC I think at the time I was just a fan and I was just 97 Alabama how was your first broadcast they didn't give me any instructions nobody told me what to do nobody told me how to do it nobody told me s*** they just said do you want a gig interviewing the fighters after the fights I was like sure you know and then it was so rinky-dink like we were in this weird little f****** hotel and this weird and you know it's worst and we flew in there on a propeller plane the gig was supposed to be in Buffalo New York but New York State band it at the last minute so Bob meyrowitz who was the owner of the company and Campbell McClure was the guy who hired me they told me you're going down to Alabama instead like what so I flew into one part of Alabama that took a puddle jumper and Dothan and that was like the place where they were allowed to do the show there and was this little Auditorium it wasn't very big at all and the first show I ever worked at Mark the hammer Coleman beat Dan Severn for the UFC heavyweight title Pac-12 Vitor Belfort made his debut Vitor school I was a white belt cross and Gracie's in 97 and that's where he and I have been there since 96 I start training near 96th and then and 97 Vitor was making his UFC debut and just by sheer luck I happen to be at the actual gym with Carlos Palmetto and Mario Sperry and all these like just asssassins back that and I got to be the post fight interview guy was nuts man that's me yeah oh yeah so cute little cutie pie yeah so that was way way back in the desert a man 1997 rear Maderos is Vitor book gigs because like about go do UFC I don't remember how much I made it wasn't much to do the interview stop but then if I could do a comedy gig I can make like two grand for a weekend right feels like why am I doing that when I can make to Grand equipment doing I'm like I'm like one instead of two so it was just a costing me money in the last time what was 89 so that was probably you know somewhere in the neighborhood of you know eight years since my serious competition day so I still loved it I was still into it and I was loving that this new thing was around so I was happy to be there even though it wasn't like wasn't affecting my career in a good way in fact the people that were I was on news radio the time and the people that were the producers for like what the f*** are you doing like why you doing this like why would why treated me like I was going off to do like p*** Ryan so what is this f****** violent thing in about being a part of and put your face on what yeah and I was like an expert like I was the expert interview were asking people questions doing his like you're attaching yourself to cage fighting the f*** is wrong with you but I loved it man I loved it I'm so excited to see this happen because we'd always wondered When what when I start doing martial arts and I started in karate my did like a little bit of kung fu than I do karate The Comfy was like one lesson and then a little bit of karate but then I got balls deep in a Taekwondo but we all we ever everybody always wanted to know what was the best martial art and I switch from Taekwondo and I started doing kickboxing and boxing so realize like my hands were terrible and then I'm like man me I thought it was good cuz it was good at taekwondo but his boxing stuff is more important to learn I need to learn that and then I start doing Jiu-Jitsu and getting strangled and I remember thinking when the UFC came along finally hands were terrible and then I'm like man I thought it was good cuz I was good at taekwondo but this boxing stuff is more important to learn I need to learn that and then I start doing Jiu-Jitsu and getting strangled my f****** anything and I remember thinking when the UFC came along finally we're going to figure out what works

you know what do you think about how do you say his name Ray LaMontagne is that how you say it jobs in ship before and then just started doing it and I make sense found success later on I think that makes sense with a lot of people think people like Justin Bieber like he's kind of way harder Road the way harder road to try to figure out the new imagine are like at all things considered ice probably handling it okay right now has already happened on 24 he's rolling around on a G7 that's his day-to-day you know all the time because you don't pay attention to things I'm not like I'm not glued into pop culture but somehow like you just can't not know what Justin Bieber's up to once a month just walking around in the world anymore of it I would say that kid most people to be handed that type of existence and all of them scrutiny and all the s*** that comes along with that like that does things to people you know your personalities not even form yet I'm so grateful I got into this business 35 and I was saying that it's almost like if you made an epoxy right you know if you have epoxy is put up a couple ingredients in like there's one thing you mix it with another thing that hardens but if you had some s*** in that that's not supposed to be and it's fully developed you're not going to take that s*** out I'll give you added oil through some oil in the epoxy like I do you f*** that whole thing up that's kind of what you're doing to a person when you raise a person famous have you take some reality star from the time they're five and then they're in a sitcom in the movie and then you've gone through your whole unwise I really start but you've gone through your whole life if you're that person you Justin Bieber you've got your whole life under the under the eye people paying attention but you never had a moment like you did with your work for the railroad tracks or like you know I did going on the road for years or just some of the jobs that I had before it was ever comedian they don't have any of those don't don't have the wondering if you could pay your bill feeling they don't know that feeling they don't have the still feel like that I really had money or anything like that or any aspirations to own a house with those kind of things so it's just the kids now like I just don't there's no flamboyance if he lives a different life for people like Rihanna these they're like literally citizens of the world in any day of the week hotel and god-knows-where you know yeah God knows where it's a crazy way to live very bizarre and I couldn't do it man cuz there's no way I don't ever I don't ever want to wake up and have that kind of career cuz it takes so many people around you on a daily basis just to maintain and keep something a machine that large rolling logistically speaking that you become enslaved to the job you know to makes you high all these there's like this always this name like we have Superstar ex you know he puts his head right here and then everything below that just to make that thing go around and turns into this like a corporation really like 20 semi trucks and all this s*** you know when you got to go out and make that happen because now all these people depend on you for their livelihoods and careers and that's going to affect the artistic culturally speaking and if you want to do something different next time will now this massive fanbase isn't really going to f****** deal with that very well Boutique party we get it you guys are part of your school and then all sudden you know Paul's Boutique is like whoa what is this David Bowie Ziggy Stardust to doing a solo album in like 9 months or Luther Vandross and yeah those are huge classic amazing record you know you think Rod Stewart gets enough credit I don't I don't either I think that specially man faces and even those early solo records as those are some amazing albums as boys is incredible what they got too much p**** do you think his brain I like that song was that was there was something in that song right there was a guy trying to figure his life out hanging out with some chick roster with a Bad Axe play professional soccer for a Celtic or somebody wow he's like a really great soccer player when he was a kid but he was too small so we had another one right that like basically like you never going to see one of those again no I don't think so you never going to see a lot of things again nobody that's actually nobody that's actually that might know that's not necessarily true you might see more things now because that's true too I know ahead of myself. You know for all of his I shouldn't be here right you know that it wasn't an industry creation right soon as possible

it's hard for us to understand what's really going on because you know the news old show this anecdotal story of a farmer was upset cuz you know he's losing money because of Trumps tariffs and then people go all tariffs bad I think it's a really comprehensive view of it you don't have to dive deep so-called Lake industries that were important National Security like steel you know how much we will need those in a cold war right now in China but you know China does have military Ambitions I mean those are their actions in the South China Sea of showing that they they do want to be at least militarily strong they haven't you noticed they didn't go in with no Bloodshed on that account yet but it's one of those things it was only like 450 years before this is just a transition so the long Game Belongs to China and they know that you know that ways to resist the encroaching tyranny especially digital to me right there in all forms so it's not just a surveillance all this sort of like collecting people like facial scans but otherwise we're just going to you know it's going to be headed to it's this weird bipolar world where there's a new axle sending you a life the UN passed this resolution condemning China's treatment of the uighur Muslims and send down and the signatories to that to that bill that you and Bill was basically United States New Zealand the year of a lot of European powers the so-called you know like these are countries that are often accused of being islamophobes because they won't accept Muslim refugees or that many Muslim refugees but you have Pakistan and even some countries China on under treatment with with the weed Amazon sensing Giants one of those things just like how they expect all this to play out because it seems that this could be a real problem the future and most Americans up until this whole trade issue with the Trump Administration most Americans didn't even think about China there it sits highlighting a lot of issues with the with the Chinese government Taiwan is another issue still there the three TS Tibet Taiwan three things that absolute

what kind of pot we have a work on you are eating it or both Jamie is with you with the eating a he's got some weird to genetic disorder that doesn't it doesn't work with him like Adam and just hang around people when they would go on tour like if they have to go places and they didn't have pot they'd get literally that gets shaky they feel weird and then they realize they're all this is my body's withdrawing from THC apparently it's very rare but common enough so that it's in the literature they did really Dev documented people that have like a physical response to withdrawing from marijuana recently said something about trying to know he was comparing the way they handled drug dealers in China with swift Fair trial yeah it was he saying Singapore it's I understand the concern with the plight I understand that people are really worried that people getting addicted to drugs ruin their lives the devastates family people dying of overdoses from Fentanyl and all these different hazards that are associated with drug use and drug drug dealing I understand that but this sort of archaic way of handling in death penalty talk in 2020 country completely decriminalized all drugs right with Portugal If we do this thing then no one gets addicted to drugs and no one dies from overdoses will then you do that thing but there is no but no one would die from overdose if there's certainly would do people definitely will dive overdoses if you make drugs legal across-the-board the one thing you do that's good is you stop all the flow of money into illegal drug sales so all the people that are selling drugs or most of it at least all the cartel money all that stuff goes away because the cartels are making billions and billions of dollars selling to the United States and other countries that until 2 and they're doing it because it's Ali because it's a business they can capitalize on that American businesses are not capitalized. What it did is pop-up organized crime organized crime and alcohol the desire for alcohol didn't go away the legality of it went away so a propped-up organized crime to pretty spectacular way and it was because there was a massive amount of money to be made selling alcohol the desire for alcohol didn't go away the legality of it went away so illegal sales went through the roof and the people that were selling it were criminals

I like that's one of the things that New York has a large advantage over Los Angeles is interaction people are constantly on the subway and walking on the streets with everybody all different classes all different backgrounds and I think that's really good early contact with different people and it's the same with that's what I feel better ideas to early contact with different ideas really helps and that's that's kind of devoted my life to two that caused almost someone called him and Neo-Nazi and through just communicating with them and being friendly with them over a. Of many months he got them to quit they quit the clan on their own and didn't request it and then over the course of several years he's gotten more than 200 people to leave the clan leave Neo-Nazi organizations and he they give him the robes and their flags and you brought them all in here and he's inspirational human being but he essentially was reinforcing what you were saying that these people are never around anyone like one of the guys that he met initially was saying I've never had to buy a drink with a black man before and he's like how the impossible is like and he's like I've never. Never had a drink with black man and so he's like this is the first time ever having a drink with a black man you like making this big deal out of it and then eventually Daryl was going to his house and then eating dinner with us and hang out with them in it and then the guys that I can't do this anymore like why am I in the clan when he quit and he quit just from Darrell being this really friendly articulate brilliant guy who clearly didn't fit their Narrative of what they the racist depiction of what a black man is this group called Milwaukee had organised a conference that that put on a conference into thinking that for years and they had alongside you know if people like Sargon of akkad you know count dankula the guy who taught his pug to do the basically cuz you know when the conference is happening and then in antifa kind of found out about it they started protesting the conference a they called the the venue to basically you know get it canceled they said it was a Nazi rally Klan rally ironically you know the greatest irony is that that Daryl Davis was there and he got tainted as well so I start calling this the political one drop rule where what happen to you if you are associating with talking to somebody that has a whole range of people like normal distribution of people you will be tainted by the most right-wing person that you're in orbit with that's just how it goes and that's what happened to Daryl so when we will have the after-party to the conference and outside the bar the Pitman New Jersey people custom pool with their to the Pitman New Jersey people had a police had to station themselves outside of the bar and you know they were kind of protecting this event know what it's it's ridiculous because you know yes you might find Sergeant's politics objectionable but why is everybody who's associated with the conference also lumped in with us and why is the response that does need police protection it's just we're just talking about it it doesn't make any sense and it's this thing that it gets it just gets reinforced in that culture that this you know the culture of either 24 people that support antifa didn't understand the consequences of shutting down speech you think you just going to shut down speed Cindy platform people that have marginally offencive views and the problem with that is first of all you close the door for them to be influenced in a positive way or for other people to learn from them being influence in a positive way of all the way. down ideas is not stop a person from talking it's to combat those ideas with better ideas and then everyone around them gets to see the discourse when you have these debates online and people discuss these things online it benefits millions of people when you shut that down it benefits nobody but your calls and your cause is probably incorrect like your your ideas are probably wrong and then the case of Daryl Davis you're definitely wrong is not a Nazi so if you shot shutting that down and say they we're Nazis will you're wrong and your censoring people that are trying to get to the bottom of things and getting to the bottom of things mean discussing things are trying to figure out tenable Solutions or awarded comfortable middle ground that takes forever this is not like you know you have Christina Hoff Sommers and she has this discussion and and they pull fire alarms and and yelled at she's a Nazi like she's a feminist you guys are crazy like this everyone has to comply with woke ideology 100% with no deviance whatsoever and everyone has to take an impossible to pass purity test it's it's this is a dumb way to communicate that the person would shift to the right it was that she tried to see if that okay if you are if you are a good Christian you might get corrupted by fat ideas so we have to ban I don't know like Harry Potter books are bad in my household it's okay to ban all these because I wasn't allowed to celebrate Halloween yeah because it's always so concerned that the corruption is just going like they're going to drift to the right there never concerned that but somebody might be convinced by the arguments and go to that why I don't get that expose everybody to all idea why are we so concerned that that the individual that they're you know what the target I guess would be would be shipped it right and not ship that left his preaching some ridiculous thing and someone starts becoming indoctrinated and grab chords that the real problem is that these people that are being indoctrinated are gullible and their foolish that's the real problem and in your eyes they're they're going in the incorrect way you need to stop these people from being tricked into this right-wing ID does infantilizing yes I think that's that's what I couldn't do people are dumber than you you're smarter you know better you need to stop these people from being tricked into this right-wing ideology

what year did you come over here how old are you 17 what was this shift like going from Singapore to United States you live in New York then play into any of the commonwealth countries cuz was a former British colony so all your credits or just transfer kind of more easily to university in England for example Australia but I chose America precisely for the First Amendment it was very weird people so it was pretty conformist in terms of talk about monocultures there there is a conformist right like there is the right school to go to the right path you take very entrenched and I really rebelled against that like can a grown up here I probably wouldn't be doing this right now it wouldn't just wouldn't matter but when somebody says I can't like like do not touch wet paint in like also there were a lot of culture shock that I had to adapt to you know for start is it definitely felt like a bit of a step back for me in terms of how intensive comfort of look like Center living the United States country compared to Singapore and the infrastructure was kind of broken the potholes your health care what the hell is up with that so with a step back in material Comfort swimming and in Singapore you know if you grew up even middle-class at the 50th percentile family can afford a domestic helper so many Singaporean kids insect 90% of all the kids I know growing up all grew up with Maids so enrage and so if you measure employment at Country it's it's in some economic measurements the way they do it it's almost like it's over employee unemployment problem because of turn Den Outlet height the United States practices what you call Efficiency wages which is you know they the kind of pay people little bit more to to extract the better performance incentives matter are you in like smoke, no big government has a problem, solution it's it's about Effective Government and I think that's something that the super government had really perfected it's it's effective governance not about the size we're going to I don't care whether this is a policy that people respond to incentives and if you want to encourage a certain kind of behavior you there carrots and sticks to do basically cards that behavior and so it's there are things that the government would do in a way that we just would never fly here where were you beat me in a we treasure civil liberties too much anyway which I personally came here for that reason but I'll give you an example social cohesion is engineered in Singapore so there's isn't very very Multicultural multi-ethnic Society you have Malay Muslims Indians Hindus Chinese who are Buddhist Christians and you know it's all living. on an island city-state that's about 5 million times of population and how the government manages this Multicultural project is that 80% of people actually live in public housing that's very high social listening right public housing for you and each block has to mimic the racial demographics of the whole country is the total makeup of the country is 60% Chinese 20% million Muslims it has to follow so you can't have basically an area like Birmingham in the UK we're all the Muslim immigrants or or you know something like Dearborn Michigan or Minnesota with all the Somali immigrants you are forcing and have you know neighbors that are just not not your own kind again or Minnesota with all the Somali immigrants you are forced into great it's a it's a way to force people to integrate and have you know neighbors that are just not not your own kind and that's how they've created this like national identity that's very strong

talking about caning and hanging Singapore hanging now is that the new one yeah so it's one of those success stories of nation-building but it's it's kind of like you know the snow globes the perfect snow globes yeah when you like turn it over in like everything kind of sprinkles that's what it feels like 5 grams of 25 milligrams or something marijuana trafficking now all you have to show your driver's license if your over 21 and you can buy the store and its Singapore they'll kill you for it. I don't I don't know about that but I do know that one time they actually executed a Australian citizen who was on Transit Airport quite a bit he was deadly trafficking it zero zero tolerance policy very much part of neoliberal economic policies still track a lot of foreign investment right because the highest income tax bracket is like maybe 13% it's very low on this almost no welfare at least in the sense of how we understand welfare but there's a lot of the hybrid system there's a lot of 00 state taxes very easy to sew businesses to set up their Multinational Corporation Headquarters in Asia because the other alternative would be maybe China but China would probably end up stealing all your you know your corporate Secrets your property but this is the country that protects rule of law attract investment you say like what's in my what's in my region and how can I be how can I have a competitive Advantage so that was that was housing for released developing and gained a lot of traction I didn't like it cuz I don't like rom-coms and light come on the premises like the girls at American Asian girl is like dating this guy from Singapore she doesn't know he's rich and she finds out on the plane there it's like the most bulshit thing it's just conspicuous consumption I mean it's got some you know the city look beautiful and in fact I kind of grew up with some people that live that lifestyle but I just don't like and I mean it's it's got some you know the city looks beautiful and in fact I kind of grew up with some people that live that lifestyle but I just don't like that kind of movie

and I have a question for you though cuz like you know you do talk a lot about like woke stuff kind of going unlock rate doesn't not bother you though but Bernie that he aligns himself with some characters who were super woke I think a lot of though the wokeness is a sign of a cultural shift in the right direction less racism or homophobia less fill in the blank all those all the things that we that trouble us about like evil behavior and even greet corporate greed all these these things that trouble us about the influence that money has on politics and burning clearly stands against all that stuff and I think that when you see is this woke stuff you know it goes among you have to look at it on a spectrum it's like the crazy antifa people who demand 100% compliance with woke ideology or they'll hit you in the head of the bike lock versus people who want single mothers to be able to have free education and free healthcare and give them the economic support that they have to raise their family and hopefully give their children a chance at achieving a successful comfortable life World versus suppress them versus keep them in this f***** up system that just throws them in the meat grinder with everybody else treat this country like Community like try to do our best to help the people that are in a disenfranchised position cuz there's so many try to do our best to in some way economically uplift all these deeply impoverished sections of our country that's those are the good aspects woke ideology see all woke ideology isn't just you need 78 different gender pronouns and enough to comply with but it's also for the way that you behave then things get ugly most people reasonable people if they could have conversations with folks even if they disagreed on certain things they'd find themselves somewhere in a comfortable comfortable discussion where you could at least sort through the ideas and try to figure out why you think the way you think and why I think the way I think why what how we disagree and are you right or am I am I wrong like I want to know these kind of conversations like trying to figure out if the person who opposes your philosophy or your perspective is right and you're wrong it's very uncomfortable for people so what do they do they just f****** s*** on anybody was on the other side and they don't talk to him this very little exchange of ideas in between the right in the lab. I really like talking to his Dan Crenshaw who is a right-wing guy yeah that was great then using his platform course he's using his platform he's getting good ideas out there Jimmy Dore amazing so accurate I like people crazy laugh cuz they just makes me laugh so I could just watch for that purpose alone we need more discussions the thing is if you like people got mad at me for having people on the podcast that are far right people particularly in the far past week many years ago and want two things it's hilarious and they said his show has had this person that person that person all the all the negatives 100 + episodes and you list like five or six noise if that defines the show that you have had play don't like if you workout yeah yeah I'm a bald cage fighting commentator you know bench great right it's just there's a lot of the time they just enjoy it works really well there's a lot of people to like racing cars 2 you know they just enjoy the mechanical aspect of racing a car it's kind of the same thing when you do you do something to your body to juice your body out to make it stronger and faster and work better doesn't mean you're dumb but this stuff is Insidious because it's bad enough to be in political silos we're now in cultural silos and they're mapping on each other right so what I shouldn't like so people with they like ouu I'm surprised you watch WWE Hardy Boyz and Lita I grew up with that stuff so people be surprised and and they will push back on it and it's it's it's increasingly become that way like from a person's consumption habits what they like I'll be able to map what what politics they will have more likely to have him we shouldn't be going down this route well-read educated people actually enjoy watching the UFC so talk to so many of them like your fan like Robert Downey jr. And then we'll talk you know it cuz it's more interested in these clusters are scared to like things like WWE or like anything they like you know some some people love f****** mosh pit we're more interested in this cluster are scared to like things like WWE or like anything they like you know some people love f****** mosh pit

losing her f****** mines there was a video from the University of Phoenix I think it was where there's this kid on campus and there was some pro-trump group did you see that video of the kids screaming and screaming and he's walking away from them screaming and making yes you should not have your throat cut just completely unhinged and I was watching this I was like mansion this was some kid yelling about Obama and the Obama Administration and the Liberals because not saying anything he's not saying the reason why I hate you is because you detain children at the Border in cages play that so I can hear it and play it and give me some okay that poor kid needs a hug but imagine if he was saying that about Democrats every Republic or every Democrat can suck my balls every Republican slashed every Democrats last or throat that would be crazy you mean he's doing that because there's a pro student Trump organization there until he's screaming that unhinged that's one of the problems that I think we should not give you no like we we should not give the right legitimate reasons to be complaining about disparate coverage right so one of the things that Eric Trump tweet yesterday was which I didn't even know happen like apparently have an this was driven into a GOP tent or something and you know Eric from basically tweeted saying but imagine if the tables were turned. It was just the other way around here nonstop analysis of a problem in America and argument what else is going what's going on is this who's right who's telling the truth you flip back and forth from CNN to Fox News it's like you're in a Vortex of space and time you don't understand what's what like what happened espino's started on Twitter to I was always inflamed eight-letter like retweeting something that was like all I get is super will prison-issue you know iPhone 10x or something was excited as with critics criticize as being of Texas and why how how he apparently because the phone was kind of big like they expanded the dimensions and so like it doesn't spin to win his hands and as neatly as the old version and then I was like psyched I was literally just like two Twitter accounts and an article was written based on like what somebody who's Anonymous said on Twitter that was sexist turn the internet research agency in Russia is f****** with everybody or

I love Andre Ward for a bunch of reasons but one for the fact that that guy undefeated gold medalist to division world champion because you know what walked away about that he's better off for boxing even for boxing outside of fighting you know he knows like he's so smart man he's so smart and so disciplined he just so disciplined he knows like there's no reason no reason to come back the right way to do it this this big money and coming back but there's also a big brain damage the ego after you retire is the biggest fight of your life like just because of who he is you think that stop yourself from the money the glory one more time the possibility if you imagine coming out of retirement and beating like Canelo ever mellow Alvarez and to be able to like you know what it's better for me and it's better for boxing if I stay retired and keeps sitting ringside talk about these fights in the way I do pause this issue with his right shoulder you know his right shoulder was basically broken most of his career and he got it fixed before the second kovalev fight and he actually wind up hurting kovalev real bad with a right hand when she if you watch his career use like a left-handed Fighter for the majority of us is supraspinatus is like ripped off like I was really f***** up and he tried to rehab it with bands instead of going to surgery when he was young and so most of his career he beat the best fighters in the world Broncos guys handed which is even more insane even more insane and then you know had the surgery rehab Tiffany said still not 100% what happens when an under-appreciated Legend you know in the terms of the mainstream boxing Viewpoint I don't think that the mainstream public really appreciates how great he was who their dad or grandfather was more so than he's getting it now if for whatever reason they never really captured the Public's imagination even though they were great you know like Marlon Starling was a fantastic welterweight knocked out Mark Breland who was actually now Deontay Wilder's trainer when Mark was coming from the Olympics and you know he was just really Long Tall welterweight and he fought star installing wasn't really wasn't appreciated enough and Starling you know Stanley put it on and you realize that there's this guys out there that for whatever reason people don't appreciate them as much they should yeah don't deserve the shots that they continue to get but because they bring an audience with their s*** talking or with their Antics and all the the show that they put on it's better than the fight are you doing what are the hardest motherfukers on earth when it comes to boxing you're not just Mexican you are the size of the man you just don't know we got like he won something like 31 World title fights some insane number he's had the record of world title wins which is also like an unattainable goal is Julio Cesar Chavez what do you hope to my job for can you hope to get in Legacy like I almost feel bad for the guy like because there's going to be so much going on in his head and put him in a place where he's at but yet he's talented these f****** he's a good fighter like his skills his ability to put hands on people are very good but I think also there's something about growing up wealthy just impossible like you kind of have to have some part of your life that was f***** up and you didn't think it was going to work out where will you didn't think it was there was a future and there's a burn that never goes out just like a little fire that never goes out either has a greater challenge than adversity yes it is man there's something about Comfort this makes b****** out of people possibly remove yourself from that Comfort it's very few human beings are able to really achieve greatness when they grow up with with great wealth and privilege is something about that that life of leisure and and and knowing that everything's going to be okay you know like your dad made 15 million dollars going to be fine you know there's something about that that just for whatever reason it just haunts haunts people brightly inside him almost like a resentment for his father unfortunately helping love could Propel you feel like even come anywhere near his legacy that you actually have to hate the guy just to be like fire burning bright enough to attain anything close to what he did feel bad for his dad to but I've one more the Canelo fight was a rough one too but you know outclass them you know Canal was just just a better fighter Adam anymore and it was from a blatant foul like he looked okay right yeah maybe there's something going on that we couldn't see but he looked up in the nearest you know took videos from the hospital the next day with tape on his nose and like

I don't know if you know this but like you said there was a time when the only way you can have a voice or certainly comment on boxing or MMA or Sports is if you got hired by major networks that a reach or people can see you have to die to get that job the gym is a fairly fairly new and I had you still like mini DV days and I had a camera that I would use to shoot sparring sessions and because Freddy has a gym where there are World Championship Fighters preparing for title fights on television the class or fighter that's in there on any given day sparring or like Main Event ticket selling Marquee guys and I'm in there shooting their sparring session any reverse anybody and I'm using the money I'm making selling the sparring footage back to the fighters to pay my gym dues that's how I started and it's like in journalism restaurant equipment like as a faculty can I do is show and so I'm coming like the headline news in whatever f****** kid greater things is important and who won the football game and you know this kind of s*** before dudes I got to come up with a way to do that I start shooting sparring sessions and in this this is like James Tony is still fighting and there's a guy named Danny Green who is a Australian fighter wildly famous there but doesn't have like Global audience he wants to fight James no real money in it for James but if you know James Toney this is no shrinking violet this man is like insane Wilder pumped up till I get to this day with every day that was James Toney at Wild Card boxing it right so this guy flight from Australia walks into the gym and you know what a sacred Place those are like the main fighter at Kenny Jam the guy who likes is the representation of the toughest dude in that dog dog you don't just walk into that guy is Jim Zorn talkingshit talkshit the middle of a round right exactly all throughout rounds this guy comes to the James gymstars talkingshit James like getting the ring right now the last 10 Rounds I'll fight you anywhere and get the fight he takes tell James looks good. Oh my goodness and this is James in his prime he looked like he was a f****** heavyweight but that's nice of them was James heavyweight this point at this time there really wasn't any boxing Apprentice speak of ESPN you might get a Mike Tyson knockout clip be Fighters training there is no websites for fight and after this thing got done I'm like a you know Danny Green doesn't want to eat so I'm just going to go home and record over it and yeah because I need every VHS tape I can use to keep the money in my pocket I can't just be stockpiling footage nobody wants but before I get a chance and tape over it I get a call from a Cyclemax boxing and I bet Tyler like Boston website I want to say this is probably close to thousand by weighing day he'll get down with this is how this is how James like rock everyday he'd be just banging guys amazing footage time currently a wild-card and he's to spar James which is like somebody to talk to him what are you thinking f****** good shape and James getting tired was their mamas in this or James look really tired the thing about James Toney at this time he always look really tight always seemed like he was being lazy he's always leaning on Fighters but what you can't hear is the thud of those shots like he just turned it on Freddy in the background by the end of it still is Danny Green still seems like he's kind of in it it's not like anything that Danny's doing making an impression of the end it was over like that Daddy had enough Jim Moore's what I did with this footage ultimately was I took it and went to an editor named Brian Hardy was an editor for Mac boxing at the time and he got Doug Fisher who's now the editor-in-chief of Ring magazine and I to commentate that footage as though you're watching it on HBO right so that's doing the color I'm calling the fight like I got in the Lampley and he's a Kellerman and we showed the whole thing I talked about the context of what had happened like I told you and we're calling this show Jim Wars blew up it was like the first big boxing like thing on the internet at all and so I would go to round a different gym and get fired Greek let me shoot the session and turn it into a show call Jim Moore's and so this like the way these guys now get there like phones in their cameras and they go interview Fighters all the s*** I started that that wasn't a thing before I started doing I'm the one who created this like medium by which you now receive boxing news so we're in trajectory in life was changed at a boxing gym and never to look back and we will fight her own point I'm never was away Freedom release like all of those young man angst boxing was that it was an intricate part of my life I spent hours in the gym to where I had to figure out a way to make some money there so I can continue to eat and pay for it and that was my way of doing it be interviewing Fighters is now like my timer friends because everybody thinks are Reinventing the wheel now I can't shoot anybody sparring or anything like that so that she had to go away but the way that I relate to and understand Fighters and what it is like that's inside them that's Barry Spears in the driving them I think is unique because although I would never ever classify myself as a fighter that's such a unique and and cherish like battery that you can really hold if that's really what you do I'm a lawyer to remain like I I am my own way I forged a career I created something that didn't exist and had to fight every step along the way to make it a thing a unique and and cherish like battery that you can really hold if that's really what you do I'm a lawyer too and I mean like I I am my own way I forged a career that created something that didn't exist and Ida fight every step along the way to make it a thing

what's the craziest story unboxing the years Errol Spence Jr surviving that f****** Ferrari crash that's the craziest or the year when you see that car flip like that and the fact that he got out I would like a chipped tooth I mean a spunkers think I didn't ever see Phil. I never say that thank God he didn't have a f****** people. Cuz if he did there's no way he'll be dead probably or f****** severely injured you know does that week when that happen and it was one of those things where it reminded me when I first heard the news of Paul Williams yes I realize real life with all its dangers and all the other ways that people can meet tragedy and heard of the other overcome and that's a point you almost want to keep him shelter in a box between fight so that nothing happened nothing can paint what's going to happen in the ring but he's guys are just like everybody else to that degree Lakeshore United mean like you just can't you can't know if we'll ever see the Errol Spence that we saw before hopefully we do and better how badly was he injured from what I understood and I follow this very closely not badly at all like you're not wrong like he from what I understand he had issues like teeth being knocked out lacerations on his face no broken bones no permanent injury whatsoever it's crazy but the mental side of it is that each individual two-handled to be faced with death like that the moment was when you were flying through the air and not knowing if you're going to live you don't know how people people adjust to that so bad because him and Crawford goddamn want to fight that would be God damn lomachenko was taller and I wish you was a bigger fighter you know it cuz lomachenko vs Crawford was really the fight that I would want to see cuz those I mean I believe Errol Spence Jr is right there with them he's is phenomenal fighter particular what he did with Garcia but lomachenko and Terence Crawford it to Masters it when I look at them in terms of what they do to their opponents that the tune don't let me check with that crazy movement footwork it's but Terence Crawford just figures people out here the way switch stances he'll start out South Park start at Orthodox in the switch up on you start boxing you out he puts all the data into that computer and then starts finding your weaknesses and then he gets nasty with you and I love. I mean one thing I like about him so f****** meanie is what is an IT want to do is go down he gets a kick out of it yeah there's that Killer Instinct you know how this is going to turn out time in the Mikey Garcia fight could have happened with lomachenko I-35 I don't think you should ever fight a 40 or but I think he'd say that same but when you see with Mikey Garcia it would happen to him when he went up again Errol Spence arrows is way bigger and stronger and better even better I think him and hopefully he's okay hopefully he's okay and he said he's getting back to the gym and getting back after him and Terrence his stuff like that is supposed to fight each other is there a an idea of like I believe I think he's thinking like a man like really back of the Deepwater I don't think he's the type of dude I'd like to see that one life

see Combat Sports today and you see like the landscape of boxing I I feel personally that this is an amazing time I mean I feel like the heavyweight division has never been more exciting and more turbulent because there's so many great Fighters now to have Andrew he's jump out of nowhere and knock out Anthony Joshua I think was a godsend for the sport because all the sudden you say like who is chubby Mexican just f***** up this dude looks like a god first Mexican heavyweight champion but it's also like wow this is a crazy division look you got the Deontay just knocked the f*** out of Luis Ortiz would that one punch the forehead you like what the f*** you got the rematch with Tyson Fury's coming up in two weeks right not even write less than 20 second my goodness what you're talkin about earlier is exemplified and what happened after the fight where you see what you said chubby guy that's very heavy as though he won the lottery or you want to scratch off and it should just happen it doesn't remind people of what the heavyweight division is one punch can change the fight is a real thing f***** up there on that rematch that rematch was a disaster so it was so clearly unprepared when you wait to 80 I was like oh my God knew him like my own know I heard Whispers that didn't believe it I believe I believed it cuz it's so hard not to all the sudden you're the f****** man and I don't know where and maybe he was convinced he could do it again you know he's hitting the pads and look pretty good hitting the bag look pretty goods are not f*** that guy up again but Anthony Joshua have a totally different game plan this time and to see Anthony Joshua stick-and-move like that was interesting was like wow yeah it's a cliche but it again losing might have been the best thing that ever happened to him I don't know about that I don't know about that you know I mean I think it's great that he got his title back but I felt like one thing that happened in that fight that Disturbed me was even though Ruiz came in out of shape and clearly didn't look like he was prepared correctly Joshua didn't did never really enforces will on him he never really had a moment was the f*** out of them wears like you know I trained hard for this fight I'm going to dominate you now now I'm going to take you out the way you took me out there was none of that it was boxing to stick-and-move make sure you get the decision make sure you get the decision that is in stark contrast with Deonte finishes fights which is why that matchup is so intriguing which is why no matter what happens between the two of them hopefully they remain undefeated for their own sake and can they make that unification fight I saw his commitment to discipline Joshua as a good thing so it's definitely a good thing because he won the title back but when you make the argument who's the best heavyweight in the world if you have to look at it on paper I don't think it's him right now I think it's Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder depending on what happens on the 22nd I lean towards Deonte because he can close the show at any moment that 12-round I was when I was in bed watching the fight I want oshit I popped up City knocked him out he knocked and then what the f*** arises he gets through the garage and then he wins the remainder the round like this is insane and even Rock tiante one point I might this isn't insane fight and then it was a draw and I don't think I'm paper is really a draw I think that's horseshit I think I'm paper Tyson Fury one more round spot upset with a draw because the way Deontay knocked him down and then knocked him down on the way to knock him down the 3rd and 12th round and you can almost count for like three points. So crazy just about any any other fight in a countless fight that you've covered where the the main highlight of the fight is just a guy getting up crazy crazy crazy the right hand in the left hook behind it and then him walking off like this can rage for days but I don't know that for sure this guy beats back out of that guy beat the other guy won't know until they faced each other and Joshua Wilder well unless Tyson Fury Calles Wilder and Tyson Fury Tails while they're in as I can to a Joshua Anthony Joshua Youtube if he can get some if there's talk of that kind of s*** then I want to see that fight but if my dream matchup right now is the rematch that's the dream matchup the dream matchup is the 22nd I am so f****** pump for that rematch Jack schitt I'm the I'm taking the night off I'm sitting right from the f****** TV sweaty Palms MMA but I do love boxing

dude this is getting to this man we have this conversation at the, strong like you got to come on the podcast we had talked about this because you are a part of probably the most iconic boxing interview of our day you would Deontay Wilder when Deontay Wilder freaked out on you it became this huge huge f****** thing to this day that he puts it on his Instagram hashtags till this day he sells sweatshirts with till this day on them there's a store that's adjacent to the Barclay Center it's connected to the Barclay Center and it's full of s*** it says tennis day on it he had a grand opening there I was invited to it automatically or do they just your Busey the side of your face when you see him angry as far as heavyweight of all time I mean Mike Tyson's right up there might see off stay off ring outside the ring Deontay is a sweetheart he's a really nice guy so to see him angry outside the ring is kind of weird I had them on the podcast he couldn't be a nicer guy he's a really nice guy and so to see him angry at YouTube and like giving you crazy eyes I was like and when you explained it was like yeah that's what you doing it interview you you want someone to expand and see what do you mean by that this is not like the first day we met set timer for an hour and the moment some people might not be aware of exactly what happened so just try to act showman in boxing heavyweights my guys are giant first time they met this is December 18th so you also know that fighting Sports boxing MMA there is a aspect like everybody's culture bring something to it the Irish fighter feels like he's got a certain style he's got a certain history he's going to claim to the warrior Legacy same for the British fighter of course the American fighter but both of these guys come from what's like an underclass of their society Travelers gypsies in England fighting is part of their tradition almost like it is to Mexicans in Mexico it's something that they do that Bond the clan is they they believe in history of it obviously not the waters from Alabama darkest midnight he is a descendant of slaves for sure okay he's got a history coming to any fight bringing what he experiences in this country to this element of the faceoff one man one when Tyson Fury's on stage for the press conference it something cuz that's going to say you know I'm coming from a fighting people my people have been fighting for 200 years the culture of Travelers of gypsys is one of their fighting man I'm a fighting man until then if they say about themselves and each other so that's what he's bringing you this already but that's how he's challenging Wilder the 400 years according to talking about the black experience in America slavery all in all alike but mind you he's talking to a British fighter he's talking to a world audience it's not like he's fighting Dominic Brazil it's two Americans probably not going to get that much International attention the world communities years you know I know you know cuz we grow but I'm letting you know what we're talkin about the world doesn't know that I travel the world and not just not Steep and black American history I've had conversations with him he loves to talk about the plight of the black man in America and how it relates to his career how he feels and you know disadvantages certain ways and he carries a man to another ways you could Champion a black American certain ways and he's a victim of white American other ways when I see his argument happening I'm going to go home okay well this is definitely a moment but I'm not a pool reporter right so in this particular instance it's unusual for me to be part of the scrums when they call it collection of reporters everybody's kind of shouting questions I'll just trying to evoke responses my turn bar where would you buy with like you know Dave Chappelle on hanging out after Thanksgiving mail this one it to be honest I'm thinking let me throw something out because I know what he's talking about and I also know that the audience around in the world especially may not have caught that reference but he is neither Watermark right now it's Thursday in the fight Saturday across from the experience at least three months if not years at 10 weeks ramped-up rant right becomes off stage yet and a couple of other questions and then just to be sure because I've been doing this a long time not an idiot I know he's aunt and I wanted to get the question clearly Deonte radio Raheem he doesn't know me but because he does you just said your people have been fighting for 400 years okay first of all I'm in the midst of my question that part of the question became incredibly important you said you were people celebrating our PR people said of our people calling the guy I'm not speaking for him he said my people have been fighting for him if he had said our people I would have said our people but I can't take possession of your quote it's not me saying it laser focus turns to me he's already at 10 like there's no ramp up at this time and he starts shouting my face like your people too so you know what I'm talking about he said don't try to bait you know what I'm talking about when I say these things around like can you tell them what you talkin about different interviews and off-camera I know exactly what he's talking about and I know that this is the moment that he finally gets to talk about it the people who have never been listening to him before but problem he starts being shot in your people and I'm like it took me him he couldn't he needed to keep saying it but you know why you were saying you're my people to my people to fighting for 400 years to this day to this day and so it what I wanted when I wanted what I thought was happening was that okay this moment now has become about him like attacking me because he thinks I'm attacking him he thinks because I do know he's talked about it Dental air quotes Uncle Tom and numerous names I've been called on the internet since as though I'm trying to pretend like this day or till this day the debate on that first of all go look up the history of look up the history believe in Google go Google that shitt see what I'm talkin about you know what I'm talkin about man you know when I dare you to sit up there and say this plane you know what I'm talkin about man fighting people you know we've been fighting for 1in Steel fighting to this day to this day rental Mario Bro old man in the end what does or 19 or welcome to the new age of clips and things being taken out of context this is not the first time I've had an interview that has gotten to be a big fat people going to talk about it bro I had no f****** concept of what was it happened to my night like I like basically reporter like this okay well that was dramatic who got a hot one gallon might get me are you a few hundred thousand if not a million views maybe like this is something you know it's something of a success like okay we got him no expressways it is in that moment something that we don't usually see do for me that in and of itself is something of a victory like you who created a moment here where you got to see inside the Champs aren't going to see like his passions when I get home though I got to take a nap so I'm woken up by Chimes on my phone looks so bad like I'm paragraphs especially about having her like you know teach people like basic not to be Uncle Tom's and how you got it like straighten it out and I'm the pin cushion maybe is any possible way this is good bro everybody likes to f*** that guy YouTube video let it sit there for about an hour and then start writing account look like upset at somebody over something this is a this is a train on fire off the rails mean and of course the more people respond with celebrities and you know that other fighters in a like the more emboldened he is to double down like hell this is a moment it's not selling well you know what I mean they've been giving him stick overseas for not being known anywhere they're saying you can walk down the street and you know any harm to this video or people in New York like do they know Deontay Wilder has he made a whole video of him saying no he's knocking everybody out WBC heavyweight champion you can't get the fight to unify like with Joshua they're saying he's a nobody essentially can't he's not worth the money cuz nobody knows who he is he's fighting or he could have possibly Pitt Fury is incredibly technical fighter no one thinks of Deontay Wilder ignition like they're thinking this guy get out class he loses belts this way and not be making this is only made a s*** ton of money for that fight so now that all the pictures on him and like I said it's a subject he loves to talk about he's a hero he's like a champion everywhere people didn't even know the fight was happening until this meme just is in her inbox has people people and it'll speak to your soul oh my goodness the flagship moment for black what people do tell like you know the black oxygen mask on and it says you still in your parents phone me. out of my control and then I have to start to think about what my role really is it's not about me that's not what I do isn't so that people can feel one way or another about me it's really again taking myself back that initial moment of showing him soon about the fighter that they haven't seen let's get a look inside this guy and get him to share something usually I just verbally that they didn't know or that you did was it you didn't come to the room expecting a share and I support people understanding the culture from which he we come as black American I wanted to give him the stage to do exactly that didn't turn out like I expected like civil rights I guess black power black information what we're experiencing beat it still run at that time in 2018 did you think about it like in retrospect how could I have phrased that better be sure you did right what could you have said cuz you wanted to get that out of there you want to get him to expand on it I think that it was exactly the right thing at the right time I couldn't have predicted in a million years it would have went that way but that's the way we're supposed to go better and he had given them more reason thoughtful answer we wouldn't be sitting here he were made less money to about my side of the story summer garden some people don't know it's me and I'm so happy for that oh my God every day since there's been over a year now someone somewhere every time I've left my home and sometimes while I'm still in it has shout it in my face oh my God oh my God yeah oh my God it's something that captured everybody's attention in a moment I've been anything else know it had to be in his eyes cuz he's so wrapped up getting ready for that fight and so angry they take the glasses off yeah you must mention your parents will you know him right so you probably weren't shittin your pants but you probably like very uncomfortable I absolutely was not going to pay that wasn't in fact in the in the exchange and quite call but I'm just trying to figure out what's happening in the beginning because I didn't understand like the rage being directed at me for unemployment for a minute and much more common Reason fashion I let him lay out what it was about what I expect to have the first time lot of people have seen it not a fraction of the people who sing that I don't know what's really going to happen in this moment but it's doing my job I can't be afraid to do that so whatever happens if this is what's going to be you got a great perspective on it though you're so right that without that moment blowing up like that the fight doesn't become as big as it is the mean doesn't exist you don't become more popular right and he even did like a segment before fight on Showtime I went through like it actually created a moment that put him in position to be the kind of Representative of that issue that he wanted to be and it gave me an opportunity to be seen even though in a lot of Corners initially negatively I was also seen as a journalist who pulled that out like I'm the other guy I'm the guy on the other side of that camera that yes. That moment and I've been doing this for my fanbase people who know my work order sent me they know that I think they know I'm not an idiot and I I like to think they know I'm not a sellout but they don't really know me because I don't ever make it about me I don't like this everywhere having is a three or four five is my tire life entirely showing up and every press conference find every way in a tree media workout trying to get something out of the fighter to be consumed by the audience in a way that maybe they hadn't seen it before not just for the audience to say I want the fighter to get in touch with something like there's so many platitude questions in the same old s*** and nobody's really like big a deal. One-dimensional characters these aren't actual Bulls these are just glad it is Our Fathers and Sons there like they have civil rights issues they have hoping to bring this thing they have like depression we know all the things that Fighters go through but they don't want to show you one side because they don't want to show any boner ability and their fans aren't interested in like anything other than who's up and who's down if that's all you're feeding them so I try to get out of the way I don't want to get in front of the work so when people see me in his light allowed I thought many times and send it to this guy's credit never even even though even the 20 minutes after you're right we didn't know each other we do have a history and he is now knowing the moment I created and knowing what he did to me in that moment has always been especially gracious he's always been especially helpful I can always get and knowing what he did to me in that moment has always been especially gracious he's always been especially helpful I can always get access to him we have a bug now like we share this day

what is it what else is exciting for you on the horizon boxing wise what it what are you looking at not talk about Pacquiao we talked about the welterweight division because because he's 40 and he's not in the news all the time he's not at press, so we don't talk about it when he's got a sign that sometimes in these conversations forget yellow he's a world titleholder he just dominated a guy that there's no way it is 80 should be able to dominate considering who keep their man was two years prior before his surgery Pacquiao could ruin everybody s*** like but what do you think about do you think that he would ever step up and fight Terence Crawford at this stage of his career also I don't think that any more than they want to make the spin scrubber fight do they want to put pack out in that kind of Harm's Way and give top ranking is being an opportunity to Dethrone him like you know he's with Bahamian can't now it's the same with spent so that is going to protect him that he's not going to have to say whether or not he really wants he can get it Manny Pacquiao inks deal with Paradigm sports management who represent Conor McGregor oh Jesus that's what they're going to do Manny Pacquiao without the wind out here it is an opportunity for Manny Pacquiao to make a fuckload of money mean that's how I look at it I look at it for many to make a hundred million bucks watch Floyd Mayweather box circles around them irritated by the people that think the Conners chance either Errol Spence or Crawford I would I would pay either one of those fights I would like that I would like that's what I would like to say I think while man is 40 I mean after the Keith Thurman fight he has shown that he still like a legit world-beater you know and Terence Crawford is the cream-of-the-crop my opinion I want to see that you don't be more exciting excited than both of those fights Shawn Porter if I to ya I don't believe what I believe in world champions all there's way too many of them every weight division this f****** like oh undefeated Fighters are the only ones that are worth talking about that's them if it is one thing I love about the UFC and MMA culture. Is that losing a fight doesn't mean losing your whole f****** Brandt like right if you go out there comport yourself well leave it all in the Octagon you live to fight another day still respect the effort you put forth like they recognize that if you're fighting guys at your level you'll win some and you lose some and hopefully win more than you lose and that's how you become the man but not but losing some doesn't make you a b**** does it make you like a bum why I think Manny's kind of proving that I mean everyone has put him in up orbit yeah just put it in orbit around Jupiter that is the most electric boxing atmosphere I've ever been a part of every televised my entire adult life they knew when they were singing that Anthem the Mexicans were singing like the Mexican Anthem before the fight and I was sitting there with a friend of mine also a fellow journalist Sean's to tell and we were sitting in the Press row we're sitting like we I didn't want to be bothered with all the but yeah Marina goes on the Press Road so I found seats like up above the ring and when they were singer Anthony looking each other like something is about to happen when he knocked out Manny Pacquiao he should have interesting I thought he would have had another one she never fought anybody again in that moment and there's something about especially Latino Fighters it's like they almost kind of have to keep going like all the greats kept going all the great Shabbos kept going away past he should have you know and then you know I mean so so many of them just keep going they dig and her brother Duran you know kept going wherever it's at mean it's an addiction it's a lifestyle and if you still believe you can do it like I'm feel better than most of those guy why not why not keep doing more W who doesn't want one more w

I'm really interested to see what happens with Tyron and Leon Edwards you know they're fighting next that's a big fight very hard fight it is it is it it's a hard fight for both guys but it is stylistically matches up well for most guys because Aaron has a lot of successes with it would Southpaw guys completely Dominate and control going on and we are never just a done better at that with guys that he feels that he keep up with but with a guy like Tyron Woodley that I can wrestle like Tyron Woodley that's got power like him I wonder how he's going to do what I feel like Leon gets the least amount of attention when you come out to lightly top-flight world-class Fighters he's a top-flight world-class fighter but he gets the least amount of attention of those guess purse whatever we are trees this is the first fight you're actually starting to hear his voice like exactly who is Leon and the best 40-yard – so you going are you sucker punch somebody backstage and you are there any rush you out of London before it breaks can get a hold of you for the London boys came back and also I mean yeah that that's kind of unfortunately for me on that's when you're in a foreign country and you commit assault usually they lock you the f****** they got him out of there like she's like the thing is that the price for that next fight I hope so because of because of the way that think I'm the type of guy to wear anything you say can and will be used against you inside that octagon out your court of law I exactly is that guy I'm the judge the jury and executioner in there and and that that's how I approach it you just sign the contract to go fight the guys I get obsessed with the fact that I'm wanting to say something I'm I'm I'm waiting for them to say some verdant the guys that don't really have to say anything else have anything negative to say it's a little tougher to go in there and get you know and get and get angry at fight them and I'm like how you look at I want them to say something that's doing interview that pops up but my Google alerts on you know I might someone might for my teammate only boom someone did this interview about this check it out if I have time I watch it all he said that okay you know a guy you know what it's funny to see the way it's shifted like the crew his career shifter is about to be known for a long time a long time running the mail guy would win some lose some win some lose some I mean you don't not that long ago he was losing you know but any credit to his team as well you know they've done a good job at at picking the right fights to really get him to where he is now but you know what actually happened went on a South American game show before you went and did that look at piggy fight looking pictures really liked post Wonderboy wasn't it of the the huskiness on his part but it was at some point like missing like everyone's buying into the hype this is what I'm saying that that they've done a good job at creating this hype by picking the fights to wear once I was a gamble the Ben askren fight was a gamble you know you would not fight you take all that hype that this guy has which this guy didn't belong in there in the first place but previously early on his career you can make the argument that yes but at that point in his career he didn't belong in there but he goes out there lets you been asking just take him down it doesn't Ben askren does you wouldn't be having this conversation right now so he goes That's a Gamble and their part and the gamble paid off he went in they took all that hide from that then who's the next guy the guy that you know another guy that can win some lose some but has a ton of high because you just fought Conor goes in there and fights Nate now that fight turns out the way it did you get all this hide now you got all these people thinking oh my God this guy's a killer where has he been this and now it's the same guy that was 300 pounds not too long ago you do yeah but but don't he was always that guy that said you know what I'm not I'm not this cliche I'm not playing this character I'm not doing this you know I'm just a real fighting this but that you're showing up at f****** press conference is looking like the knockoff of Scarface template don't you think that's wise like to know it is what it is what it is what it is when did look what he did that last for all my God he took the biggest L of that night like that was corny you want to wear the robe you want to stand there and you said he was holding that Silverbell like eBay actually think this is a real belt the BMF what did you think about the MLP Cowboys they they needed all day today but you know it if they they get loud enough and then it hears them and Dana sees that there is a very smart man greatest promoter ever seen you know it's a jump on that you know you looking a new Corvette you go that's a beautiful car and you'll get a Ferrari go that's a better looking car that's better looking Bentleys sterling silver Gold Edition some it means seems like the lighting not it's sterling silver it's like that kind of think it's gold well if you beat him you get that bill to I want that s*** I want it will just deal with it if you had it with both of them would you do with it in my closet went to the camera turn to him during the last pay-per-view a f****** pop was gigantic everybody went crazy when they saw him yeah I mean the hype is real Woodley fight even though he might get with me that they were making him the favor not fighting like you guys are crazy you're crazy in this guy's already fought one of the best strikers twice and in Wonderboy and beat them both times not just that he was the only one that hurt him like he hurt Wonderboy bad and both of those fights Wonderboy never heard him so you got the who's arguably one of the best strikers to ever do it no matter what division we wanted was a fantastic kickball yeah I would like that so I'm sure we'll even a little afraid in that fight because it's like to think so I guess you have to be I think he with all the hype they were playing behind them you have to because that's what makes you saying as a champion is that little fears like you guys look who's making these odds beats me Specialties rankings to I'm like they've got this kid at number three he hasn't fought before hasn't fought number one number two doesn't phone number 505 number 6 phone number one number two doesn't phone number 505 number six and what is he in the hospital

I've been involved in the sport in one way or another professionally since 1997 and that's when I first started working for the UFC so it's been that's a long f****** time and you know that's a long f****** time I keep hearing rumors that Dana White is going to become a boxing promoter like 5 years they are but they're definitely working on some s*** 5 course with tme with Floyd sock company rather what is it called to get involved with them to promote something else and it might and MMA fighters might involve boxers and they've actively talk to a bunch of other boxers and they're trying to put some stuff together but yeah they zuffa boxing is a real thing they want to UFC want to put together some boxing matches and maybe even through crossover fighting glitter is a fight every week right now looking for the next five weeks there's a fight every weekend and people are have pay-per-view dollars what's ESPN Plus or ESPN and sometimes paper 65 bucks you know but it's it's weird thing right like you can't really do it where it's just 599 don't have paper you cuz then the big fights won't be big fights they want has dazn have it do you have to pay I know you don't cancel the right word and ESPN otherwise going to have their own separate pay-per-view that you can watch whatever production you like which is going to be something like yeah yeah let's the commentators who then it becomes as the commentators it depends on where you TuneIn if you go to ESPN there people that got their own their own broadcast I am so confused I loved his boxing commentary and he doesn't comment on Li fight anymore Terry and he doesn't comment on leifheit anymore I think that's got to be his own choice I mean I can't imagine that they don't want to call you but he not want to do that he was so good at it

is the status of Adonis Stevenson is did he recover okay now I mean he's not his former self but he's certainly like I think living a good life for you cuz I know that was like that was one of the more recent like Superstar guys wound up having always going to now the rest of his life deal with those injuries and have challenges and I in a way that are seen as old as their videos of him talking about it or anything I mean I haven't seen him talk about it in-depth but we've seen him like his motor skills are coming back he smile and he's able to like speak so it's not like Gerald McClellan know that they changed Roy Jones jr. you know and that he never wanted to turn out like that but then Roy gets older and he still fighting fighting fighting people like deep into his forties like this is crazy like this is the same guy that after gel McClone got hurt said he would never want to go out like that and he's fighting like young badasses in Russia and s*** I don't think you can do it it's hard to stop doing it let's let's take it easy example right into his 50s enough to have some longevity in it without taking that kind of damage like Roy and but he's still there in front of you which is what's the embarrassing part so if your motor skills slow down one of those moments when I was talking to a guy and he said something that was like I thought I should have known until I heard it and I was at all I can't believe I didn't realize that he said it's not the fights that destroy you it's the gym that destroyed it's the sparring oh yeah punishment headgear or not that's what you're seeing at the end of a Fighter's career do you remember it was it Danny Jacobs Jr who was it that someone know something that wasn't him that wasn't Danny Jacobs was someone else someone that said that they stop sparring oh yeah yeah yeah and don't believe that but it was like the 8th round where had Kobe XI deep s*** Jim and his philosophy I remember correctly was yard philosophy was if you don't get hit at all in training you will be so much pressure when you get to the ring so he was doing just ridiculous mitt work and bag work and drills and you're a new had a box so his ID that he will have some fun of his van and he was really fairly green got right in terms of like world-class comport he was doing that for a while he wasn't Spar neurologist doing pad work and just doing wrestling drills and stuff like that kickboxing drills movement to people and also to danger to be able to exist and to be able to fire under pressure you have to keep your eyes open like yeah still because you wouldn't by chance they won't let everybody secret Klitschko knocked out Deontay and training like someone feeling while I was talking about that recently you know but you know you have weaknesses if you're going to lie clean on trying news opening up again to help you work on those days in like catch you if you slip it can I catch you if you slip it but I must say I caught that motherfuking sleeping

boxing that has my imagination and my Fascination continually spark is the the finite nature of the tools and weapons that you have to use respect and appreciate MMA but it's different discipline but you're coming from background so I grew up on Kung Fu movies and so when I started they were like the Gracie's break it to me and I understood why a box or whatever fight a karate man or Judo guy whatever because that's what the Sciences for me like these two hands and all of that amazing martial artist can you still believe in like one discipline after all those mma's proven it doesn't work there's no real one discipline that will work best in MMA you have to know everything but if I was going to say what this one's the most important what's a wrestling because if you can't keep a guy from taking you down he's going to be on top of you was going to hold you down going to punch you in the face it's a giant advantage to be able to hold a guy down build upon his face in and you can't really do much when you guys on top of you that sad from there you have to understand you just too cuz if you don't you can hold the guy down then all sudden he wraps his legs around your neck and you caught a triangle when you go to sleep and every fight start standing so you have to have some understanding of striking cuz you have to go to the closest distance but there's no one way to do it that's what's interesting to me is like this Anderson Silva's way to do it was the greatest middleweight of all time and his way to do striking you just stay up with guys and just f*** them up with timing Vision in Muay Thai but then there's guys like Daniel Cormier would take guys down and beat the f*** out of them choke them you know and there's a bunch of different people that with a bunch of different styles in between but if you look at the majority of world champions the majority except maybe a couple weight classes there dominated by wrestlers guys like Daniel Cormier would take guys down and beat the f*** out of him choke them you know and there's a bunch of different people that with a bunch of different styles in between but if you look at the majority of world champions the majority except maybe a couple weight classes there dominated by wrestlers

doesn't it to June 2009 that's what I had a Open Mic at the store and I just remember Michael Jackson just died and I just remembered this energy was crazy that night and there was an open mic there's like 16 comics in the main room and I was like 14 and was like No And then they were so we didn't start doing the podcast of the ice house until 2009 how to do it at my house yeah first-year right to it was 2000-2011 that makes sense that's probably when I met you so you but you already rolling by the hell no I have no idea how to make people laugh but I didn't know like what I didn't know the process and so Mitzi was the one who liked past when the last guy she passed at the store and so I just remember being like that when she said you shouldn't say anything she just pointed she looked at Tommy and said make regular he was like like development spots and she's like no he's ready and then I remember being taken away and they were like you've just been passed by Mitzi short like was like a weird like ren-faire wizard Bay I've got to make sure cuz she's never I don't even know when the last time she came to the store was but you never what kind of knew she was ill and I just wanted to be like that I hope this wasn't fixed just her having dementia as being like really know I was lying in bed like I'm a paid regular at the store I was already on TV TV show it to me it meant something to me was like I was up I was a real comic now it's a stamp of approval. Already been paid and not I'm starting to cry doing stand-up like for money you know I've done a lot of headlining gigs you know I travel did some Road gigs and I did a lot of stuff New York before I came to La you know and then I was out here in 94 and she made me first assure maybe a non-paid regular and I would go I've gone last every night and I was here every night so I don't have any friends I'll stand at the Oakwood Garden Apartments as pre furnished apartments and it was on this television show that was terrible and I was just going to the store every night I would work all day doing the thing I didn't have any friends and then I would go to the comic store and that's that's where I feel like tried find a home anyway so I got these late nights at snooze like you know it was always like five people in the audience six people in the audience and then one notch pass me she passed me up for the story before but there's a guy named the Todd and the tated he's eventually he developed like some pretty severe brain issue like and he went insane and it was really sad because back then I had seen him before I ever came out here on MTV on the half-hour Comedy Hour and he sat down next to me while I was on stage and laughed his ass off and then I came offstage and she just goes okay you're passed the audition for the first non-paid regular and I did that for months and then I became a regular but did Todd pulled me aside and he said he goes I sat there and you guys are really funny was what I sat there and I laughed really f****** hard and I told him it to you funny and he goes in your going to do that for other people someday it's a cool feeling it's a cool feeling to I actually had the moment of seeing her I think it was at the it was a reunions it was the 40th reunions something couple years ago and they had me on like the class of 2000's was like Natasha and some other people run the lineup maybe even Duncan I don't know and she was sitting in the back they brought her in in the winter wheelchair and I was like I have to say hi to her you know I never I didn't get to say hi to her and get to meet her the last time she just pointed and took off and I kind of like I went up to her and I looked in her eyes and I shook her hand and I said hi I'm just in the honor to meet you and I just want to say thank you because you changed my life and she just stared at me and I was like she doesn't even know and then all of a sudden she just squeeze my hand and I was at that's all I needed so that that to me was like she's there she gets it yeah you know she'd have those moments should be in and out but that's everything that I've done that's the light up to where I'm at now has been for her too because I haven't had other than my other than my mom and my friends back home I've never had somebody really believe in me like that you know what I mean yeah we're getting out of that like I'm not good enough and I'm moving home it's like oh wow I actually have a home now and every time I go there now I just feel so welcome and you know it's it's it's nice it's a fraternity it's a sorority it's a Buena versity I'm not good enough and I'm moving home it's like oh wow I actually have a home now and every time I go there now I just feel so welcome and you know it's it's it's nice it's a fraternity it's a sorority it's a Buena versity

YouTube video with I don't know what it came out it's Adam Carolla sat down with Tucker Carlson did you see that where they talk about we talked about like California they talk about the homeless epidemic that's here in California and how I've been trying what kind of looks a blind eye because we are a city and a state that lives on permits and parking and licenses and you know we just want that money you know so it's like if you force Memorial Forest Lawn Memorial like how you look across the way there's all these you know immigrants and what not like selling flowers you know but like a woman driving without a license but she'll get pulled over and charged but all these other it was kind of interesting I hate saying I hate being like an interesting interview that's probably good point a couple years ago cuz you know it went from downtown and then downtown pushes them all out so they keep going west keep going west some go to the beach I'm going to Santa Monica but now it's like I live in an area that you know six seven years ago it was it was fine but now it's like even on the way to go get coffee this morning I walk everywhere I go it's like I saw like three three homeless people just outside just screaming at nothing you know they're in tattered clothes and they're dirty and you know I went I used to work the girl years ago at a restaurant when I waited tables and she's now homeless and she's like out of her mind and I feel bad when she always nevermind no no she you know she did yoga and now what happened I don't know I don't know if I did the progression of illness yes so we Bounce from job to job because one day we go to work in the be changed on the door cuz they couldn't pay us so we had this little kind of group that we would go apply together at different jobs and then I started seeing her out on the street and just walking around ether missing and running down the street crying and it just breaks my heart cuz it's like I don't know what to do and I don't know if she would be willing or how tight where you were there other phone number one night and walking outside and you know how everyone they just keep everyone outside like you do and she just like Barrel through everybody just screaming nonsense and like s*** like teeth missing and it's just sad it's just really really sad and then I'm at the gym working out I'll see her like down there but you know with her garbage and everything and she doesn't it's just that it's so long cause when you knew her she didn't seem like she had a mental health issues really now I mean she would talk she would do yoga I mean I remember her always Lotus hurt with her name was Lotus Harmony which animal has a real name but at the time that's how I know sweet lady you know just beautiful skin beautiful smile always in a good mood when she got mad you were like oh man do you know cuz she was always so friendly and yeah and then now you're just like damn and I just want I don't know what to do I would love to help her because it just breaks my heart homeless people break my heart but female homelessness really really is sad for me yeah it's it's I think most of what you're seeing with homeless people is people that are severely mentally ill so you got a Wonder like what cause maybe she was on medication and her dad her you know her insurance ran out in full on Joker yeah it's like you. We dated for a long-ass time it's like if he didn't have his his anti-anxiety ya like and he got off that I mean he would full-on have a panic attack and that would get dirty and I had to witness that which was insane people that lose it because of their author medication yeah that's a sad situation because you like you're always going to be Tethered to this thing to go to work if I don't use it twice today I just hope it works Heather Tuesday #Taylor Tuesday it's like what happens to them it's the f****** coronavirus hits and they get locked doors for 6 months and you just become agoraphobic and lose your s*** while we were talking about this the other day that most of what this is all happening from the Reagan Administration during the Reagan Administration they change the standards of what it means to be mentally ill and they just released people from asylums they didn't want to pay for it all you don't. Look if La is a city of 20 + million people which is as many people in La as I think is in all of Australia so think about that thing about the amount of money and that they can't make a silence here thinking about how many abandoned buildings there are through how much money how much money would it cost to is there currently someone in the neighborhood of 70000 homeless people that they said there was some Mystic that said there's more empty apartments in this town then homeless people the thing is though those folks don't just need a place cuz they'll f*** that play a bag of Rehabilitation and they need counseling and they need me and some people I don't I mean I'm not a mental health expert some of them you might not be able to do anything too gone. there are you a bunch of guys that were homeless back for my pool hall days was a bunch of guys who would hang around the pool hall they would even sleep on the floor and the you know I knew guys to try to sleep in people's couches asleep at the bus stops and then they'll come to the pool and try to hustle up enough money to get some drugs and out it was they were stuck in this place where they could never get past where they were they were just in a rut and they can never get out of it and it's heartbreaking bear cuz you're just like what happened since the other day I'm walking down Santa Monica Boulevard over by Barney's Beanery and I just hear up and I look over in this kids like had to be 22 23 years old and I was like what happened where are your parents drop them in the South are RAM and ravan I'll show you Hollywood Reporter people do that you meet in this town will you meet him early in their journey and they still have hope like it's not worked out yet but it's going to I'm going to make it and then you run into him Comics you're so I mean that's the thing I think this so relatable field as well cuz people what time I mean give me a time where it was 2002 and then 2005 and then meet you until when 2007 and want to say yeah I think I met you at the ice house when we were podcasting out there yeah and then when you came back to the store 1414 what I saw you again and even then it was like making working memory looked when you go through the weirdest gay guy I've ever met and I was like f*** yeah what I say that I don't know probably or what's my other option move home or suicide well it's also you see so many people that are doing well right like it seems so far Out Of Reach like when you're broke and you see some guy driving by in a Mercedes convertible and I only sees people going with those big high-rises off of La Cienega come in there and everything but no one lives there maybe like what I've heard is that the they build those and then the Saudis want their kids to come to school here and get American education so they just buy them for but nobody I've overheard something I mean there's maybe like what I've heard is that the they build those and then the Saudis want their kids to come to school here and get American education so they just buy them for but nobody I've overheard something

there's a picture of Bert Kreischer taking a shirt off in the green room I know crazy thoughts I've never heard of such a thing but it was the moment that we became legal in California bertstrip to shirt off start run around stage we're doing at the end of the world podcast in the green room or in the main room in 2016 when when Trump was elected that was a weird night wasn't weird night I remember where I was I was at the Improv that night cuz we're supposed to be doing a show and it was that's right you guys were all on stage at that table that's right that's right Sarah Tiana in the Bill Burr show everybody it was amazing and I remember like we were at The Improv watching the election happen and all the sudden everyone is going red red red and and someone looked at me and was like I'm in trouble I'm like I didn't think it was coming Binaca brings you back this mayor Pete guy who who they came up with that guy because they said look here he is he's young handsome guy he's gay he's a mayor he speaks well I think you as a military guy yeah it was like all these like Rich billionaires it was like a cave Quest called a wine cellar but it happened to be a cave somewhere out here in California just trying really hard to keep it from being Bernie really hard if you don't want Bernie Sanders and get if he gets in that apparently you know he was an independent for so long he doesn't want to play ball and he doesn't accept any money does accept accept any money from any cool Grandpa that's but then you look at an old picture him and he's marching next to Martin Luther King civil rights for somebody just to socially yeah but then you look at I don't know when he was on here he was describing that if they just took a very small amount of money from every transaction that they do it like less than $0.01 from every transaction as Wall Street does that it would add up to more than enough money to pay for healthcare and a lot of other things he's explaining it all and he was explaining it like very calmly and it did seem like he was bullshiting us that I don't think he is a bullshiter working now yeah it's weird upheaval politically like things don't like 100% sense anymore no I actually had a friend of mine asked me you know cuz we got our voter registration cuz we vote March 3rd here anyways but it's just like I honestly don't know it looks like Bernie Sanders winning New Hampshire looks like you are they say anyone in Iowa. I think Pete did is b******* he beat him by 6000 votes and such I want ya hilariously re-watch the coin flip watch this watch how bad this coin flip is Gogo full-strength go full screen please and do it from the beginning watch this flips it catches it look in front of the whole world okay how should I flip it I'll do it like that horseshit that's not how you do a coin flip goddamn Iowa Iowa like I'm proud of my son house that old guy watching right next to hey you f*** that's not how you flip a coin what country you from kind of nonsense is that Atlanta Underground Atlanta the f*** everybody back up so they don't football and I know that like one way or the other Bernie gets it or mayor Pete gets it the delegates a crawl at up to one guy or that mean Bernie Sanders in 2016 did the DNC rig then they don't want him and they're doing it now because he's cuz he can't people work with them is not corrupt they want someone to take that money cuz I don't want Tulsi and they don't want Bernie they pushed them out right they effectively eliminated them as threats low but I can't you don't want tell seating they don't want Bernie they pushed them out right they effectively eliminated them as threats low but I can't bring it too much grass roots behind but who do you think is safe he gets the the nominating nomination who do you think he'll pick his vice Dulce will be tomorrow

it's a good old-fashioned method that f****** video of China where they're spraying disinfectant in the streets now to try to kill the coronavirus jammies on my is that b******* everything is Streetlight right the thing I saw going around before which is you didn't spend with drones they're using drone sex around people so long with my man Eddie Izzard is running 28 marathons in 28 days in 28 countries could all through the month of February all all interact I have socks on my floor for 3 days so if you have like virus on your hand you touch a railing that s*** will exist outside of your body for three days which is very unusual effects of parasite s*** forever the one that died that's one of the doctors that study that the CDC Duncan and I went to the CDC down in Galveston I think it is and we were talking with these infectious disease experts and we were all conspiracy theory like Rue like you know like what we were Salt Lake man-made viruses in this Eagles listen you have to worry about man-made viruses he goes these m************ are making them that in the mutated and we barely can keep up with them and it just takes one big giant one like the Spanish Flu decreasing in Spanish lose 1920s is 20/20 so I can have everything every hundred years before that was what like yellow fever June 18-20 yeah like down in the south at the Carolinas and find out what was what was the pandemic and the drones Jesus Army of drones deployed across China dispense disinfectants here's why I call that b******* on that how much f****** disinfected can they carrying a little bulshit a strong text this isn't tennis most like a the other thing to that which was scary I I think it was real there was a drone that's followed a woman out of her house she didn't have a mask on and it was like damn you know how you do a mask please go home that followed her home in China down in their houses right a kids are starving to death because they're locked in their houses and their parents are in the hospital they just had like another I think I got a notification last night that said there was like a guy in San Diego that's being treated is Jerome speaking to you could you imagine she has no idea what's going on She's So High don't forget to wash your hands. Blue hair drinks why you always come outside you can sort this out to some people but I'm not feeling good about it it scares me these things absolutely can wipe out millions and millions of people out before they can get a handle on it I had it I was on a plane couple weeks ago flying from New Orleans back here and I had this Viking woman behind me just open mouth coughing and I had I was like first no yeah second while I had to turn around and say hey can you please cover your mouth and I had to do that to an adult woman and it made me feel weird some people just f****** selfish some people just don't care they're just selfish on a plane some people that they just don't care they're just selfish no they don't even care that other people feel uncomfortable these like all experienced it they want you to be sick they don't they're not happy malicious f*** and malignant

next that's an extra decriminalization mushrooms yeah that's next they're going to make that happen to make it happen it's already a decriminalized in Colorado my friend shot Evans was here yesterday he was talking about it I think they got to pull that off in California as well have to even from microdosing just get everyone to microdose the world would be so much better shoot a lot of guys in Silicon Valley do I freeze you think it it keeps all their negative chatter at Bay had a buddy of mine was here the other day microdose's he says he takes it every 3 or 4 days or no mushrooms like a little capsules to grind it up and he'll take one capsule every 3 or 4 days and it keeps he said just keeps negativity out of his head keeps me positive keep some healthy yeah I feel like that's what they did with with weed it's like I just feel like especially now in California to like more people are just kind of chill with it and I he's on Alex Jones Show talking about he hides weed is under his balls and it's there now it's probably stuck there somewhere if I forgot about it but he used to it that's what he has to do is take a little baggie put his weed in the baggie zip it up and tuck it under his balls in his underwear how many people are on Facebook I think it's legal state legal in what 9 States something like that and then medically legal in like 18 or something let's find out what's how many states okay is that right Jamie let's find out what all those green the darkest darkest legal all the other ones or what yeah I don't think TVD that s*** is so good for you see if you needs a gateway gateway I know they have it in everything now hand cream eye drops medical yes medical no decriminalize know so the light ones or what go to light ones are probably illegal and I have family in Tennessee where they do the yellow it out and see what is that Wyoming no medical no decriminalized what is the one next to Wyoming what is that state right next to left left Idaho I don't know ya see that's how they keep people out cuz colorado.man when they made it legal in Colorado f****** everybody move their head yeah they did tremendously they started making a shitload of money it was it's a medicinal reduced penalty and then Alaska's like free right legal powerful friends in Alaska is crazy but look what we're looking at their Massachusetts legal Maine legal Vermont Vermont legal really care they're just had Austin Texas but we're cool but New Hampshire's weird because it's supposed to be live free bumper stickers or Die Hard and that's a not a state or a CNS the federal government City but not legal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 12 States fully legal over legal

no towards the end of my career like I just didn't I didn't finish the way I wanted to let you know when I felt like you know after I came back from my injuries I just wasn't the same for a fighter anymore I just for you not the same physically or was it mentally it was physical but it also it became mental because it was because physically I just didn't feel the same you know I didn't feel like I ever regain the power back in in my legs and for the most part my lights were everything you know the injuries I had two ACL surgeries on my right knee and that completely just it it changed everything for me because you know being a smaller light-heavyweight all of my power was all in my legs you know it whatever I couldn't make up for in the size Department of top I was usually able to make up for with the part of my leg so you know is that related to the injury that you got when you were a Jackson's and Diego Sanchez crash into you know that was so that was a different injury so that was a MCL but it wasn't my left knee so the right knee was hurting. cuz I'm like why the f*** is a guy training for a world title fight in a regular class will where everybody knows people Collide in the people of regular classes all time with millions of dollars on the line and I know that all the time has happened but when you start to move up and there's more on the line that you always have to take every single precaution because you can't afford to take a step back and for me once I have my knee injuries though I just mentally was not the same person and when I competed I wasn't the same person and then it affect me because then I'm like you know I'm not the same person did you lose the ability to explode with your knees did you have meniscus damage as well I have meniscus damage I lost it exploding I lost it will get tired my leg I get tired you know and it wouldn't have the same valence the same Rhythm and it kind of felt kind of felt heavy and I couldn't really feel it in the front you know the front part of my knees I couldn't really feel it I had a little did you have a patellar tendon graft out of intelligent replace your ACL with that correct yeah give me more than a year before it felt right and then even then if I was on my knees it would hurt like hell to see nothing like I still to this day I still have dead spots where I can't feel in my knee and I think I had to do it a lot because I had two of the new series back-to-back like when I was only for my first one then it ruptured again so then I had to go back in and get it done you know what the first time it was with the cadaver and then the cadaver tissue didn't take but it did I know that like almost a year later and then it slipped out just trying to normally f*** yes I see how the brutal and do it you know still because when you mess up your knee you know for me it's just kind of mentally just it messed me up with that how much physical rehab did you have to do for that Year's worth of it just you know the first I didn't do it as well as I could have because I'm a guy you know I bought my pretty easy and I did like I felt like I was bouncing back pretty easy but when it went to second time then it was harder because not only was I healing from the ACL but then mine Eagles healing in general just from you know the previous surgery and then plus this surgery and then I had something different because of the first surgery it wasn't it wasn't too invasive. I wasn't using my own my own tissue is easy if it works if your body takes it how long does it take for a broke blew out again and I was almost a year I was training for another fight thinking I can get back in shape and fight again and then when I was training for that fight it blew out again y'all Scout schedule to fight augustinsson and then AJ end up taking it fight instead but it was it was it was one that that just you know it was like first when I was out for two years while healing from injury like to went when all the camera stop flashing when people stop caring to get your pictures when you know that whole feeling the whole feeling that just that happens when you met that when you when you hit that transitional point and stop becoming that guy and it was difficult transition at first because you know even though I always told myself I would never you know put myself in the mindset of being just that fighter sooner or later become just that fighter and and that's what happened to me so when I to me that you weren't the best what not not just the bad one elite elite world-class fighter like I used to be on that level anymore at that that was something for me that was like God damn you know you use of your legs are so pivotal so huge for you like we're not in that Rampage fight I remember that opening sequence when you just started after blasting of the right-hand it was so fast on him and he cracked him quick and no but that is some serious explosion and that and that was even in that fight I could even wrestle like last for weeks at a fight because I had to I pulled my hamstring in a fight so I was just really just drilling up until that fight for the last 4 weeks so and then when I came out like that I was like I was a little insecure and I'll let you know what I'm just going to see what happen if I go and it works just like okay I still got some spring yeah so yeah so when I when I was into my career and just kind of getting you know, trying to figure out like what what's next for me you know it was hard you know it was just a hard place because I really have anybody to talk to you I don't really know what I was going to do next in my life you know and then when I started fighting again I still was in that place where I just wasn't you know totally back to fighting my mentality because fighting is it pigmentally that it takes it takes a certain mentality for you no end in for me fighting with something that I did to exercise some demons a bit you know but but having some time away from the sport it allow me to figure out other ways to exercise soejima demons in you know figure out some things around if you know the things that made me mad at things that were my fuel before I kind of made peace with them and it making peace with a lot of things that I if my fuel it just change the way I fought in the way I seen fighting so coming back to fight I just wasn't that same fighter anymore and then when I got to the point where I was like man I can't keep myself like I was like man I'm not fighting the way I want to fight and you know there's I mean what's the point if I can't go and compete the way I want to I'm only towards myself so then I decided to retire but then when I retired I was still was in that space where I like mayonnaise still something missing so then when I did the 5 Meo DMT that kind of put things in perspective in a in a whole different way you know and it and it just it it change me it changed me a lot to change the way that you like I said the way I think the way I eat everything everything about it you know so it was it was so cathartic until medicine is so many sense of the word you know you think that something like that would be really beneficial for Fighters that are in the Twilight of their career I think I think it could be I think I think every fighter gets to a point where you fight enough then fighting it kind of It kind of you kind of getting a weird space about and you know I seen Fighters go through that. Where they just kind of like figuring out that why am I still doing this you know they've had Great Moments Inside the Cage but then they have those down moments and those down moments are the moments where it's harder to come back from and I think those are the times where you you know a psychedelic or something that could put things in perspective and in a lot of fire to see the why behind the reason they're doing it and maybe create a new why you're so different is funny you know I've noticed that about you over the last 2 years or just I don't get to see you that often when I get to see you over the last few years ago I promised something has changed and Rashad like you or your more I mean I hate to use the word spiritual but you seem like a more spiritual more peaceful God I noticed that so and Rashad like you or you're more I mean I hate to use the word spiritual but you seem like a more spiritual more peaceful God I noticed that so that's why I was really interested to have this conversation see what your journey was yeah it has been it's been one hell of a journeyman

my friend since when when when Jon Jones was first competing Jon Jones He competed so freely because you know it was just like he was it was just in his nature like he was just so creative and fart different because of you know he fought from that place of just creativity that ignorance that that that ignorant blessed you know he couldn't be beat he didn't believe it can be beat and you know he will fight that way and he would do some genius stuff cuz of that you know but then when you have those experiences where you you know you've been caught in a fight or you you know you made some mistakes in there then you do know better but then those those those thoughts it actually slows you down a bit too because you're not fully react and you're you're thinking of a hair before it was just kind of like a reaction his opening fight the opening sequence of his fight with Shogun mean he's 23 years old he's fighting for the world title and he opens up flying me the f*** does that that that was that was that that was that dumb and young for so long a whole fighting style just that you know letting it all hang out let me fly and that's what worries me that's why I thought in his fight with Dominick Reyes it was going to be a closer fight because of the fact that Dominick Reyes now have would John used to have been in that Blissful ignorance you didn't really know how much you know how better John wasn't even care he was just kind of like I can let you know himself almost in it but it worked out for him you know well what's interesting about that fight is first of all to Great argument for 5 round championship fights because for the first three rounds Dominick Reyes is winning the question is whether he won the third round that's the one I believe it's up for grabs most people that I've talked to thank John won the last two clearly most people most people that are talked to that are experts most people Feud disagree believe the Dominick Reyes won the first three and the third round was the one that seems to be well dumbass scored more but it was close enough we could see someone giving it to John particular since John was pressing the action John was pushing forward maybe you give John but they thought but they said if there's a disputable around it is that third-round yes I agree judge gave John four rounds to one that's insane this is the same judge that when I believe Luke Thomas was talking about this I'm sorry if I'm wrong cuz I'm not saying the judges name because I'm not sure if I'm correct but I believe it's the same judge that Trevin Giles who fought James Krause Wanda winning the decision but the first round crowds had his back for 4 minutes and the referee the judge gave that round to Giles which is insane I mean for 4 minutes cross had his back was it the guy was fighting off chokes Krauss was real close to submitting them couple times during those four minutes and the judge the same judge who gave four rounds to Jon Jones gave that first-round to Giles the dude on his back before f****** minutes around and maybe even a f****** more egregious fight was Andre Ewell versus Jonathan Martinez that fight was f****** crazy that fight was crazy that was the most crazy one Martinez won that fight Martinez won that fight you will broke his arm I think I'm not sure was a broken arm and head are injury to his right hand early in the fight somewhere in between either the first or the second round. She'll be really couldn't throw right hand and it was kind of hanging you because he was hanging and Martinez put in work it was an amazing performance by him and he got f***** over man real bad it was bad decision-making there was a bunch of bad fight there was a bunch of bad decision wasn't just one it was like four or five on a card of what 12 fights 11.5 I forget how many was from the opening prelims it was bad decisions just almost like people who don't know what they're saying yeah especially when we reach the point that we have and mixed martial arts you know I think that we we we turn the corner that mean the fact that there's there's so many so much out there so much knowledge out there in this poor and everything else out then if you going to be judging that you got at least know when somebody is is winning around I mean you know that there's aspects of of Giants game that that was you know score some points always moving forward with the actions but you know even when he was born for the action he wasn't terribly to offense if you will come with his legs but you know a lot of times he would allow he would have Dominic to kind of be the first one initiating then moving off and it sometimes it seemed like he was just kind of chasing them but you know I think that it was it was that there around that third round was that that hard wrong to score but you know it I I I think that Dom had the edge but if you going to be the champion you got to be the champion I don't think he did that Jon Jones impressed me so much with the shot that he was able to take more or less the mindset that John had that that that mindset that John had in those Championship rounds to me that that showed that this guy is you know he is a total package and and when it comes to fight and just mentally speak and you know he's he's my wife thought that was frustrated and working through his own frustrating in the fight for his frustration fight it is difficult to come to his own frustration and and he just kept at pressure going took some big shots from heavy hitter but Dominick Reyes is a problem for anybody has a problem is a real problem especially now that I got that rub he touched touch greatness with John in the greatest ever I feel like those last two rounds should count more personal opinion but John Kavanagh said something on the Twitter page I believe is John Kavanagh and it reflects exactly how I feel that if this fight was going to go on another five rounds it's pretty f****** clear to me who's going to win who's going to the death Jon Jones going to win that fight you know if it's to the death there's no doubt about it in my mind that Jon Jones eventually going to get him those last two rounds Dominick Reyes was hurting you could see him looking at and taking big deep breaths and trying to move and his arms with labored and John just kept cameras and kept kept kept trying for the takedown in that should mean more it should mean more towards the end of the fight at the end of the fight if you win a decision but you didn't you just got your ass kicked for the last 4 minutes that seems crazy to me that you won the fight because I mean I know this is a dumb way to think about it but if we were in a schoolyard right we're in high school and some dude and another dude fought the dude was getting the s*** beat out of them at the end of the fight is the guy who lost teachers come and they pull you off that guy that's who won 121 and I know that you can't score of the national sport the way you look but it is the rarest of rare professional sports because it's the sport of fighting and infighting when you're getting your ass kicked you were you know you're supposed to supposed to lose if you're getting your ass kicked you lost in the guy's ass you went sounds crazy but at the end of Jon Jones is that he was he was chasing him down. It was takes a big deep breath he was firing back when he fired back very well in the fourth round but John absorption has a f****** hell of a chin to halibut you know much of a chance I mean you can't he's he's something special because of everything it's not see something special because of his physical attributes he's very tall and long is very strong it's not just his skills that great wrestling he's got great striking it is all in his mind yeah it's all those things he it's his ability to press forward its ability to break people Billy stay on top of you have that Champion's mindset and to know that he's fought the majority of his career as a world champion which is f****** crazy I mean almost a decade as the greatest in the world chasing everybody that he's fought every single fighter that he's bought you look at them they're all what guys like you guys like Machida world champions Rampage world champions over and over and over again you go through the list of them just all these killers is Just Killer after killer Gustafson you know I mean you just keep going through his entire career DC twice stop them in the second fight he's a f****** assassin to be able to go through everything that he's going through you know the ups and downs yet what that what that does to your mind yes you know what that does to your mind and and just being able to put that to a side or be able to use it in order to go out and still perform as if like he hasn't missed a beat that is hard because it gets to the point you know you get you get anything about if you get tired of it you get you get Jaded by it hasn't been quiet and he still goes out there and perform play that I think he needed someone like Dominic to get that fear going to I think he knew Dominick Reyes physically is a talented guy he's a great athlete he has tremendous footwork his ability to change angles and fire back is insane so good you saw in the OSP fight were knocked them out with like a couple seconds ago you see it a lot of Jared cannonier fight tickets step back and Fire by uppercut step back bar that straight left his ability to change direction is amazing and I think a lot of that could be attributed to his football basketball I mean baseball like footwork movement his ability to explode all that stuff that he did in other sports I think directly translates to his ability to move really well inside the octagon and then on top of his gigantic is the same size as John which is very unusual for John to face someone that's his height and he's really f****** strong to acid that was known that was the intent but I think that John didn't expect he didn't expect for him to be as strong as he was when he wasn't even on his legs are f****** huge could raise his legs mean he's got tremendous power me both with his punches but also with his ability to move Matt he was throwing great kicks he was chopping a John's legs I mean can you fight in John's future I want to see a rematch I really want to see what my grass looks like now with this rub understanding how close he was and then the amount of conditioning that he's going to have to put himself through to be able to do that again five rounds and it's not like either guy got f***** up in that fight was going to be severely damaged it's not like one of those crazy Wars where they like adesanya Kelvin Gastelum at the end of that fight was like oh my God and I hope Calvin take some time off difficult hard fight but it wasn't a fight where there was so much damage that both John and and adamic need to take a long time off I feel like you can make that fight at 8 months after that lie and that would be a fight to make that is a that's a crazy rematch like their faces weren't beat up at yeah he he took he took those shots well man it is it's amazing it's amazing but I think that this is exactly what John needed in that light heavyweight weight class because you know it it does it was getting kind of stagnant and I think it needed some time to mature but I think I think Dominic razor say you better stay here for a little bit and there's another guy Corey Anderson he's angry he's angry and that's something you never seen Corey letting everybody know you f****** been slipping you been sleeping on me you guys have been pretending that I don't exist out here beating the best in the world if he fights gallon and you know he was so angry after he won and knocked him out in the first round and then he's back the years of disrespect

then you also have this crazy green drink that you were telling me about this right here is spirulina ever since I changed my diet up I need to have a couple of these every single day and it makes me feel good my life medispend it's been one of things I can honestly say that's just revolutionize my my complete everything is still it's it's it's been everything that that lately that has you know changed me from a mental standpoint physical standpoint and even spiritual standpoint because it does all meat diet that I've been on that changes your mind the other way it makes you more aggressive keep the demons at bay but it is it's that it's also like if you think about it with you if your body thinks okay I have to eat animals all the time cuz all this m*********** eats his animals right your body thinks that your body is going to sort of take on the characteristics of something that's a predator right you would become more I mean this is obviously like some b******* bro psychology cuz I'm a moron but I would say your body is going to think I'm if I have to chase you down and kill it that's that's you used to be more predatory do you but your body has to think that way I can get with that makes sense though it makes sense did you do it right after you retired you know I kind of not right after I retired it was kind of something at that kind of just happened like I ever since I like I do mushrooms right cheap trip that just cause me to have one of those Eagle deaths and when I had the eagle death I was like an estate where does knowing this is coming to me and it was like you know I was like it was all day of mushroom ceremony and it was all day and I was just out in the sun and just you know in my own mind and then I'll smelling real bad and then I smell myself annoying to said like you stink because you eat dead Rotting Flesh and it said if you want to eat if you want life than you eat life that's what does knowing that said to me and then either that's a strange thought to just come into my mind like that and then after that no kidding like I just lost my taste for me it just and I used to eat all kinds of meat out eat I would eat pork in an hour so you know big into pork and bacon to like all kinds of meat and I was never one of those hi guys at all but after that happened to me after I had to experience it was just like one of those things that that I just couldn't help but go into like I just lost the taste for me one trip yeah I mean well it was what it was kind of started when I like about 8 months before that I did the toad and then a toad was one that that really was the Catalyst for everything can you did the toad 5 Meo DMT we have the toad and the toad was one that was I guess the the Catalyst of busing at gate open and it's a crazy but the Meo DMT was the first one where I just ceased to exist I just stopped and it made me really aware of ego really aware but even the way I express myself the way I would frame sentences and say things I was just trying to sound cool yet I was trying to portray something in a way of not just trying to portray the information but trying to impress people and it made me like feel real gross yeah well that's that's the thing bother you a mammal experience it was a man I just never I never thought that Consciousness could be so fast and so big you know when I when you when you have that experience with the 5-meo it just like it made this Consciousness make look as if like it was a drop in the bucket you know just like a little drop and I got to experience the ocean of consciousness that right there was it was the most humbling experience I've ever had you know just to feel my ego who I thought I was what I thought it was completely just annihilated in to feel what I actually was you know it was it was crazy I feel like regular Consciousness that most of us exist in most of the time is a veneer it's a very thin veneer and through some things you get a taste of what some of the surface through meditation and yoga and all these methods that people use holotropic breathing you get a taste of what's underneath the surface Kundalini Yoga apparently the Kundalini Yoga para I've never really done it but some people say you could really trip out if you do it in a certain way for long periods of time people have like very intense psychedelic experience as I can to DMT yeah I had like a like a Kundalini and kind of experience like a note Awakening where it was like a just had felt like the top of my head just completely was gone and it was it was like I was just open to all like the information it was it was a crazy it was like I had no no no no had like it was just I was just information was just pouring into the roof the roof was this from Kundalini but I felt but I felt that that that Kundalini experience where you see the light and it's like those really intense light that that happens in in my head and it was just go home you see you see the universe you know that thing about the center of your head that's what the there's just a lot of speculation and what the Egyptians were trying to draw when they were drawing certain images but there's certain temples that seem to mimic certain certain shapes and examples of seem to mimic the pineal gland like even the eye that there's that famous Egyptian eye that has that's where they dip down and that weird sort of Egyptian shape that there's been a bunch of different Scholars that have tried to figure out what exactly that man in more than one of the theories is it at the cross section of the pineal gland and they think they're what they were emphasizing was that that is the area where the brain produces all the Psychedelic chemicals they speculated this for a long time but Rick Strassman he's a guy that wrote that book DMT The Spirit Molecule and was actually a documentary on it that I always stood and he he's done a bunch of work with this Cottonwood Research Foundation where they've shown now that it exists in live rats and that it did it is actually produced by that gland that DMT is actually produced in these animals by this one particular gland that they assumed associated with Spiritual Awakening 1/3 I actually a real thing feeling that you get and the thing about mushrooms it's really interesting as mushrooms actually mimic natural human neurochemistry there's 5 Meo DMT there's NN DMT and then what mushrooms with process to the way the way of your body process to become something called for Fox for aloxxi n n dimethyltryptamine so it's really is a real close cause I might have butchered that technical description but that's it it's real close to human neurochemistry to your body absorbs it very easily your body takes in anybody knows what it is nobody knows to do with it see when I was I like mushrooms because of mushroom so the 5 Meo so powerful that you you can't really get a handle on what happened like I came back from being away for like 17 minutes I'm just like oh that was intense you know I felt as if like I was everything all at the same time and it was so many different things that was just funny but you really can't unpack it because it's it's it's incomprehensible to an extent for the for the largest that because you're you're you're dealing with you know what concepts that the human mind can't even grasp because there's no vocabulary to to speak about it you know so when I did the mushrooms and mushrooms were kind of like the rivers and the lakes that leads to the ocean and it helps me understand how I am part of something so big and something so so when I when I did to my mom's going to have a mushroom experiences they were all different and some and some respect you know like all like whatever I do go deep cuz I like to go deep I don't I don't I don't play around when I go do something but I like to get in there were like 5 grams make 10 are those big ones the big doses where you you get kind of scared what she ate it like whole boy has helped me out so much

a lot about a man whether or not he's one of those dudes that has one of them wallet phone cases Rashad Evans your wallet phone case guide you pack it all in one package you know what I wasn't always a wallet phone case guys going to something that just kind of evolved into I was when I was carrying around the camper Sandman personal Weiland and after awhile kind of transition to just the the the wallet case that's a lot of work to look out sick that sucker is giant every single time I clean it out I tell myself I'm not going to put any more cards in there except for the ones I need but it just attracts the card yeah that's a problem I have one of those Ridge wallets you know what those are the s*** because you can't really get much in there I get like a credit card or to a my license like that that's what I need I got a need front pocket all this nonsense that's so thick stick you might as well go back to the man purse you know what I might as well get a backpack or Fanny Pack I don't know why I was walking I was rocking the man first before anybody else is wearing it raining out in America and Europe they are doing a long time ago but in America was like one of the other Trailblazer I like to say my friend better than ever because I mean I would always be one of us do is carry enough stuff and I'll always come things wishing I had things that I didn't have and I might know what the backward but why is it that were afraid to carry a bag and carry a backpack backpacks fine I guess you got s*** to do you got a backpack you f****** serious what's wrong with you rhymes with whipping with the one the one strap yeah and I can but you don't have to do that then became manly are not manly based on the amount of straps too thin line for women it's like it's like a status symbol don't mean you got a nice fanny pack 95 sort of not really it doesn't get the respect it deserves stop shoulder bag men's fanny pack say how I think I would wear that one but you kind of convinced me Joe that maybe the front the front carry might be there it's the way to go but we don't know who is Grossmont f*** you perfect I'm going to every married man like myself every ride that have a f****** fanny packs to determine its a little bit of you

gloves to show you so these gloves right here or what we're going to be doing for the competition gloves the competition in the in the training gloves is 7 oz training gloves so pretty much with these are so this one is the so is he developed a different glove for MMA for competition how to make some adjustments to UFC but these are ESO these are the ones that you were in a position already on because when you realize you know when you get the gloves now they like a cardboard they want to open your hand to the other always want to stay in a natural V locked position and you don't got to worry about that he's now getting on oh yeah okay so it's curved right away and then when you that's way better yeah like the old Pride gloves yeah good padding to so it's a lot golden are so that way it makes it so that your your your hand you don't get the box and break on your hand keeps everything all the muscles all the all the ligaments in and Bones in place so that way when you punch and everything is is informed this is It's a grappling gloves going to be like the training the training one or we're going to put a different a different head on the front of it what's guy different about it's going to be just at the top is going to be different little bit more so you can punch with my you can hit with a side casting punch right I like these a lot I like these a lot yammy this is Trevor's whole thing man you know is all about making it so that fires can do with a enjoy doing a lot longer and be healthy about it you know and he he's Travers when it comes to adjusting and making what he needs to do for the fighter so they can so they can continue to do they want to do but like he's made he's made headgears for people too so cuz I want one of these fires had a broken nose and he made it headgear and Hagar that you met with this guy was it was it was it was sick play first up a bit. Yeah I bet it goes this way first yes I can put you guys like that he's a great man Improvement the current state of MMA gloves are better than the original ones that they had a few years back you know the improved maybe eight or nine years ago but still those are better what's the I mean in the NFL and that's where we got radonich you know we just want to be able to get a product out there for the athletes in that they can they can use but it protects him because a lot of lot of that the injuries like 75% of my happen in training swore you know and if we can kind of cut that number down then they can have a lot more these Fighters making these dates and for the most part for the spiders you can actually you know if you can have gear that protects you and you don't we can kind of cut that number down the neck and have a lot of more of these spiders making these dates and for the most part for these Fighters you can actually you know if you can have gear that protects you and you don't got to suffer these long injuries like his ACL

very very keenly aware of the mental battles that are going on and how much visualization is important meditating Lanny bassham Lamy Bassem yeah that was a competitive Target shooter and he spent more time practicing in his head and he did practicing more time visualizing that works that really does work out something because I would visualize a lot how would you do if I would just sit there and I was just kind of like I will go through moves in my mind I'll go to techniques and I'll just kind of go over and over again to techniques my mind I will also do scenarios where I fight in almost every single situation like that I found myself you know losing and then find a way to come back after I've been rocked you know he's trying to find out myself just mentally working through it messy working on through it every single fight like I'll go round by round round by round and I'll just like okay I'll set up the scenario can I come by and I catch him to the punch and then I'm just imagining what happens after that and then I put myself in adversity adversity adversity every single time I can as much as I can so then that way I find myself always you know I'll get myself out of reverse o u sometimes I just found myself just smoking them but is always these different mental mental games and me just doing something to ask you today and always doing it right so it's almost like you were fighting without having a fight yeah you're getting experience of fighting in your head by just visualizing would you set a certain amount of time that you would do it I was just I was just I was just go with the flow you know I had to my wrestling coaches in college, Co he was always use always on like I was out there I get nervous I can never tell me what to do with the nervousness nice as well he says you're thinking too much about about about it he said just just think about EX don't think about the outcome just think about executing your Technique and just only think about executing your Technique and how it feels to complete the perfect execution of a technique when you hit the pad and hit that and it sounds that you don't hit that pop you know how does that feel you know become attached to how you feel when you execute something and then that's what you start to baste your fight off of me know how you feel when you execute versus all the things that can happen if something goes wrong yeah it's it's really interesting to see the different strategies of people employ in order to like Focus the mind you know so many different Fighters have different ways of doing it some Fighters like to meditate some Fighters like to Shadowbox their way through scenarios almost like they they they're thinking about how the fights going to go down while they're like slow-motion doing things you know I would I would get in the mirror sometimes I yell in a mirror I like yellow I would I would just you know I would I will get into it because a lot of times I will get so nervous that I was going to call my God I just don't want to freeze out there I just don't know so I would like that's that's part of the reason why I started twisting my nipples cuz I got to go out there before the fight and that was just the kind of do something stupid and silly then it would allow me to just kind of relax in my well not going to bury myself any worse than that what's funny I always remembered you always wanted to ask you about that you wanting to do that I was just doing just like you know I'm not embarrassed yeah rentals on guys are weird things anyway that you looks even worse yeah well sometimes I like big areolas to take their shirt off for the big areola I know I need a bomber and we don't care to get Slappy with him and stuff at home and no terrible terrible terrible oh my gosh I'm just glad I don't have nothing like that I did get big big they have some some boobie weight but not not that damn good

he's a guy that I feels underappreciated Nate Marquardt when he was at the very top of his game was a f****** ass ass that knockout Tyron Woodley in Strikeforce this day is one of the nastiest and tight elbow combination Knockouts I think I've ever liked a video game knockout is difficult man be no train with GSP keep Jardin Nate Marquardt Joey Villasenor Mike Van Arsdale and you don't even Ali abdel-aziz is even up in the mix too but it was it was it was training with guys who like it was a hard go all the time now and it was on those guys that I'm just like oh my gosh this dude is not going to get tired of saying he's good everywhere he strong it was just like one of those one of those when I was like all right I got to bring in order to compete today yeah he was in that he had this weird transition between UFC and Strikeforce are people kind of forgot about him and then when he came back to the UFC you know we had some good fights but he had her already had a really long career it already had some really tough fights and then really tough fight in training to write where do some s*** that you be like oh my gosh like one time Greg had us doing like somebody carries want to side of the Sandia Mountains and there's like you know like 2 or 3 ft and you'll fall too like your death and then we had to do like these buddy carries wedding carries where I'm holding Keith like this it's a f*** out of here and you ain't your fault if you if you make a mistake you know if I would have felt take to rotate every 60 steps f*** that and Chris and Greg was like Greg was always on a like you know like mental like yo you got to be ready to die got to be ready to face death last let's get it seek death then while he's such a sweetie in the corner I know but the corner is he how you doing wedding carry like that and you're literally if you fall you die. come from some of that grit had to come from those Hill workouts we had a lot of great because of those those workouts that we did we did the one where we do the sand dunes Crye-Leike on the sand dunes and then if you didn't carry them all the way up then you had to do it again until you compete if you completed it like you would like you literally see grown ass man crying just like get injured to the unfortunately it's like there's this fine line between pushing really hard and f****** somebody out there you know paranoid you have to be paranoid if your fighter you have to think that everybody is trying to take something from you it's just it's just the mindset but he'll say I was crazy I was paranoid cuz I didn't really trust him right now but I'm just a promoter go ahead and go ahead and just quit having just quit right now I'm and I know you want to give up they want to get you out of here anyways man

first started fighting how much striking training had you done before you decided to compete in MMA cuz you had as ready as base did you have any striking training growing up to do any boxing boxing Batman knockout lies my kicks like I said I've been my mom will always be like every time kicks like Bruce Lee Rashad and the next day I talked on the phone she said Bastille Richard s*** that's so funny I was kind of surprised that you were in head kicking more people unconscious after that when's 222 Florida it was different because Mike winkeljohn he was my guy like it was like me and Mike winkeljohn had a really good relationship and he would he would work with me and we will work together it was like it was like a counseling session we'll just talk about life and everything and and and that's when you know he'll instilling me all these different things you know he was like oh yeah that that cake is going to work that keeps going to work you know even with overhand right when I call Chuck Liddell he was telling me Oh yeah that's the cake that's the that's the point is going to catch him that's going to catch him that we're not when I caught Chuck the day before I was hitting it move cuz super nervous and I was hitting overhand right and left hook combination and he said yeah that punch you know you can hit me with that and you cannot come out and and I'm not going to do it again Cajun graduate you that's what you said to me word for word and I'm like no way and then it happened I looked at a most of your fist hitting Chuck and then seeing Chuck crumbles like a holy s*** was that your most satisfying victory yeah I think so so damn disrespectful you don't say I like it it would just kind of like the questioning was like you know what have you even done to fight a guy like chocolate doubt like I'm pretty much in so many words like you know whatever I even at that point in time fight for the title that I was a server up to fight for the title oh yeah that was that was a Service Media was a little sloppy back then I talked yeah can hate that stuff. That was driving me crazy new real disrespectful to Fighters real dismissive a Fighters so going to the fight I felt that disrespect and I was like you know what man all right I don't care what happens I'm like this I got I got a leash at least give a good showing for myself you know and that's and that's all I really cared about doing you know I went out I walked out to the song Immortal Technique is called that's my boy I love him really solidified everything I was feeling at that moment you know like like it you know there's a verse in there and says you know the place that I'm from doesn't exist anymore and I knew after I walked out to that fight you no life and never be the same brother I want a loss so that was the big moment that was the big mama there was no doubt I was not going to be the same Rashad after that fight no matter what happened Immortal Technique that such great lyrics he's so smart so smart dude I'm so politically aware that you're politically aware he's got so much depth to his lyrics I love that dude keep putting it back he's he's like one of the guys you listen to and you just kind of keep putting it back

you were a big part of the blackzilians getting started yet and when you have that opportunity as a guy was a former world champion to go there and sort of get become a part of a team from the ground up what did you try to do that was different then had you would singing in other camps that you have participated in I wanted to make it just like a you know the biggest thing back then it was it was that there was you always had what is so many different place in order to use get that one thing so I wore the really wanted to just make it so that our guys didn't have a need to go anywhere else for anything else and that was the whole idea behind the whole black things you know we brought in all kinds of people from every different aspect from you know training 222 nutrition almost every aspect of it and that's what we wanted to provide our athletes were just like the total the total game so they really didn't have to do anything worry about anything except for stop the train and it worked for a while it worked for a while but but it's it's a hard thing to maintain because that's in the very very expensive thing for Glenn the guy who put up the cash I mean I had heard some outlandish figures that he had was in the hole for that place for by the time and everything was up and running yeah yeah it was it was a pretty pretty pretty happy ticket man as a pretty happy take it and it was was it was an expense that it did get out of hand it take it out and even his situation so he got himself in a situation where he was doing so much for people just became a thing that people expect it out of him and then when he wasn't able to do any more than it was kind of like you know people are like a badass guy isn't Destiny wasn't that but he just he just wanted to do so much and had an idea to want to do do do things on another level but at the same time you know the the finances of of doing it was a massive undertaking I'm sure I mean all credit to Dan Lambert cuz Dan Lambert that's not even doing this from the beginning that f****** guy mean he is the reason why these super camps got started and lamb to put his own money and then the new ATT they built he built himself from the ground up built the whole f****** building and you know I haven't seen in person at friends have gone to visit but I've seen it in videos it's wholly this is phenomenal I went inside of it and the man with the blackzilians you know him and I got a chance to spend some time together and just hello to a meeting so crazy and I just inherited this beef and I like you know it is silly and especially the fact the eighties like literally right down the street from my house it would be closer to go there than anywhere else but it was weird for a while but actually talking to Dan and actually getting to know him and you know it was it was a good it was a good thing because you know I got I got to get a lot of respect for for him and just for what he's done with American top team in 18 General he's a brilliant guy I love that guy as a person I'm a big fan of his I just love that a person like that like Dan Lambert can literally change the course of mme by setting an example and by having a gym that sets an example that such a insanely high level so big so many world-class Fighters there somewhat strength-and-conditioning Everything Under One Roof dorms everything I think that was that was a thing that that kind of position for Glenn you know Brett young keep up he had to keep up while he was trying to outdo cuz I trying to do Dan Lambert always want to do something at Dan wasn't doing you no good luck with that Albuquerque AKA you know what's up when you first started there was not that many places now that really wasn't in into even get what we wanted out of it you know where there's three gyms that we can go through will go to either Jackson's in Albuquerque will go to TriStar and Montreal or we'll go to Denver and we'll work with Trevor Wittman in Denver so we have the three camps that we bounced around from in and that's what we are going to get the most working and it work for awhile you nowhere for a while for the most part but just all that traveling you just became hard to do but it has to wear on you when you're in the middle of a camp and your yeah I didn't hotels and yeah it does like a champ I really wouldn't travel too much but like when so what we'll do is that if it Nate Marquardt was in Camp and he wanted to stay at home most of the time so we'll stagger it where you don't need to have a tough guy and kept every single time so I'll be a couple weeks when George wasn't there or when Keith wasn't there you know and this where you know you have a tough guy and kept every single time so I'll be a couple weeks when George wasn't there or when Keith wasn't there you know and then sometimes we all come together but for the most part we just all rotate into these gyms depending on who was fighting who need to work

do you put one The Ultimate Fighter is a heavyweight which is so crazy I know can I look at me now I'm like I didn't expect it I didn't expect to feel this good I didn't think that a diet make me feel this good what is what is particularly makes you feel so good in what way my energy I have an energy level that it's really hard to to say kind of feels a bit Supernatural in a bit you know like I feel I feel energy like I feel I feel like my body's energy feels like it's kind of hard to say it's kind of hard to say is kind of hard to describe without looking crazy we buy phones vegan diet I'm I'm seeing all these supplements you taking spirulina and like everything you obviously doing it right which is you know there's a lot of people that they're there vegan but they're even like pasta and pizza and it like that it is not the not doing it correctly in terms of taking the proper amount of nutrients right and that's and that's the thing about it like I I I read this book the mucusless diet and it's by a doctor Arnold ehret and this is like in the early he came up this book and he had some stomach issues and it was you no not until he was fed up and was on like you know what I'm like you starving himself and then he realize he had some really you know it kind of changes is his stomach situation so then he started looking into diet and nutrition and then he he became a fruitarian and this book is talking about pretty much you know the role of food in your body and in what it does and what causes mucus and what doesn't cause mucus and you know through understanding the mucus that died in just the reading it it just gave me a different hold understanding like a different understanding of the of why I'm doing this you know in any game it became to me deeper than just like oh I can't have this because you know the diet selection have it it says I can't have it because you know this going to cause inflammation in I know the deeper reason of why easier for me to avoid the Pitbull the bad food you know there's also a situation with people where there's everyone that there's a biological variability where some people some diets to sync up well for them like I know I know a lot of people that they don't feel good when they eat red meat when they eat fish they feel great now light Foods you know they're their body whatever forever is their digestion favors certain type of diet I don't I don't know if this will work for everybody probably won't work right at me the most likely won't work for everybody but for me it was it was something that my body just was like it's about time you started to start to treat us the right way you know in a crazy part about it is a fact that now I train less but I can't rain hard like now I can do sparring sessions wear like a spark like an hour straight and I'm sparring at a pretty good pace I'm not like when it's it's smartbar like we're not like bashing each other in the head and she liked that we just went weird being smart about it you know we're doing you know a little bit lighter to the head but more more happy shots to the body you know making those ones count and just kind of like touching you know giving it a nice shot today but not like I'ma knock you out what type of foods are you eating like how are you what is it a give me a typical meal for typically speaking it all depends on the time of the day but the but I don't eat no more in a fast up until noon or until like 1 and then my first are you on like a 16-hour 14-hour like intermittent fasting 16/8 intermittent fast and then I eat I usually like like I'll come home and you know maybe like a hearty hearty shake that I make a fruit and then I'll put some you know something mushrooms and stuff in it just like in the Court decides the the lion's mane and you know from this brand life cycle sure you do your hair so that brand right there makes you do really good teacher that you just drop it in there and you ain't got to worry about changing the flavor of too much of of your shakes are drop that in there with my shakes and stuff like that and I usually take that loving my first meal and then the second one to be a little bit more hearty it'll be something with pitbulls and maybe some potatoes or something so it's a little bit more hearty and then I'll have another hearty meal like a vegetable type meal vegetable based meal at night time and then then I'll usually be done for the day are you using any protein powders pea protein hemp protein as long as long as I don't I don't use any choice vegetables Raw Bar for like I feel like my muscle mass is pretty good like I don't feel like I'm I'm too skinny or like I don't I'm not gain any more stuff like I can gain muscle and you know it is it's just been working for me and it's basically just eat to feel good like however it makes you feel good yeah right and you got it down now you know like what kind of foods it's the supplement thing gets strange vegan so you know there's a lot of folks that they're mixing a lot of different dietary beasts in a lot of different powders and different things and blending these different things and it's some people don't like the way that feels when you're eating like that but yeah I was like what you're eating is much more Whole Food baby has whole food-based like a lot of the food that I became actually good cook now because of the fact that I had to learn to cook my own food my wife she is busy becoming you know busy on her own doing her own thing so she wasn't able to cook me like she was before but then I I learned myself and through learning myself it just completely just like took the shackles off of off of me getting a really good menu like a lot of chickpeas and things of that nature like really interesting weird cooking out vegetable dishes everything's vegetarian and I guess it's with them it's a religious thing a lot of lot of Indians already have vegetarian like I just have energy to just go and go and go get lights out cycle tincture somebody gave me some of that I should have bring it but it has like like has reishi and has turkey tail lion's mane cordyceps and and it even gives you you know a schedule on one when you should take it in when it when is best but it is a really really good good mushrooms because you know that they had they put they Infuse there's with this is kakadu plum so kakadu Plum you're here that one of the most high high in vitamin C fruits there there is like his way higher than vitamin C than oranges and everything else like that and they cost to plumb yeah kakadu that sounds like something that a little kid with a really really good supplement and I don't really like to recommend something that's too much but that's one that I taken I might man I feel I feel way better off doing a lot of Beats I do I do what is is crazy like just eating greens like I've been eating grains I just don't feel like I don't get tired like I used to like my body's just instantly recovering what was your old diet like what would what was it like when your training for a fight with typical meals be like really good when I eat red meat like I felt as if like when I eat red meat it almost felt like I can feel it like within like the next 20-30 Min like at my body bring down really fast you know so I felt I felt good eating it but I didn't feel like I had the like the endurance I got I didn't feel the endurance aspect like I do right now you know so that that's been like the best I ever felt was when I fought Tito Ortiz I was eating as eating red meat but I also was coupling that up with a lot of spinach how's it going to spend it like I will go and give up rdr2 get a big bag of Spanish yet that's exactly what I was doing I'll get a big bag of spinach and I was put in the blender and just grind it up and then throw like some apples in it to make a little bit sweeter to change in taste so I won't be so so greenest like grass and then I'll just drink those all the time but it just made me feel so strong interesting interesting now did you used to work with the nutritionist all I did because when you were cutting weight like how many fights did you have at 80522 big enough to be a small enough to be a middleweight either like and feel like I can you know like so I was like in that weird weird space or when I cut down to 185 I felt like it felt threatened drain I just didn't have the the movie pop you know but then at 2:05 I kind of felt Underside you now back then what did you walk around that back then I was walking around around like to 25 to 30 and what was different because it was for meeting to meet me at from me I made from eating me out I will get that 20-plus pounds that your body doesn't have to pump blood through. nothing too like I would you know this is another reason why I like cuz when I wasn't fighting that was the problem because I would get into these bad eating habits because I would always know that would have had training camp I can just cut the weight and just lose it like that but after a while it becomes your having anything to do overtime that becomes your habit becomes a lifestyle and I was eating a lot of sugar I need to make a change for my life for the rest of my life you know right and that's why this whole lifestyle fit so much better than you know if you think that would have changed your career had you eaten this way back when you're competing I think so I think it would have but at the same time I don't know and which way you need to chill yeah yeah this way back when you're competing I think so I think it would have but at the same time I don't know and which way you know the saying I'm a lie to chill yeah yeah

radio show sweet tell you they want you to bring up certain subjects we have jokes you know there's not even that long ago man like less than 10 years ago I did one of those National radio shows in the Midwest and asked me do that and I was like what and the producer got upset and I go I don't do that I'm not going to do that and like we need subjects like the guy was like pissy with me weather fake laughing and enjoying this used to be though WOOD Radio used to be like you'd go on WAAF and Boston and do you know you would talk to the guys and you would kind of working your bits you know in like everybody did it everybody did their bits yeah I guess it was a part of it but I was never good at it well cuz your authentic but Opie and Anthony was the first to meet Lee Howard show was much more control do you know how it's behind the mixer he's kind of controlling ever there's a certain amount of times he would talk to you and then other people come in and then you know he had like a bum or more of a structure where is Owen a you would go in there and Anthony would have a gun and f****** you know Opie's behind the mixer just was her watching all this chaos go on different, come filtering in and you know everytime marionberry walked in yeah he was going on sway next door any kind of walked in like he had no idea who we were was really uncomfortable I knew he was going to leave soon so I immediately started asking about crack right into you it was in that pipe it was like nobody knows do they did but there was a new station they were talking about two people about his rest and all the stuff and they interviewed this guy goes, come on man it but it smokes a little crack every now and then everybody smokes a little crack every now and then great quote from a mayor right and Bears won him know you wasn't saying it Jesse did I think it went to jail came out and got re-elected yes he will deceive very forgiving LOL you guys are giving you showed me how you can choke me last time with the tie did you get a break wait I know I didn't but you know new man is just take the back of that I cut it put a little piece of velcro Annie Chen you at the same time but I think you going under the tide to try to start the choke actually I mean you're making yourself on there like maybe 10 armbar or something like that like I didn't really listen to someone grabs ahold of your collar the same thing collars are real problem in Jiu-Jitsu the real problem if someone gets deep on your collar with a suit you're right yeah I would have to get it I have to get a Elsa and Anna have to hold on to this park is it can loosen naturally unless you're really good at like cuz it loosens doesn't this is system to this I think I think if you different we sure you're a tough guy you are actually trained martial artists to meet his I'm not saying it'll be easy to grab your tie and took you to death what I'm saying is it's one more area of vulnerability that doesn't need to exist but see I'm disagreeing with you and saying like I was going to fight to the death I would wear the suit would look good let me tell you something about CIA are they f*** yeah man built a secret service guy is supposed to be protecting the present a bunch of those guys are Savage guns that too and I think it is actually a few weeks if you hear more from these people they have self discrediting but but if you if you found them it's just that they don't deserve in the end and I think attracts a lot of people to that will fit you nuts there's definitely something to be said for that yeah it's definitely something beside me like I'm not in favor of banning these people yeah but I'm not also I'm also not in favour these people being able to espouse hate speech everywhere they go and to be able to indoctrinate people's Wells like I don't know what the actual do trust while I do not trust this state to decide what comes Lightspeed I don't know I didn't believe that I mean in the UK that proven that they are capable of doing things Canada right okay so in that case I'm for abolishing the idea of hate speech we have the police will investigate you for non crime if it's offencive right on crime website website and hate crime has a paragraph on non-crime hate in okay and what they specifically say is if you've heard some Epsom said something offensive to you and you believe that the person said something because of you you were one of the protected characteristics because of race gender sexuality disability whatever then you report back to the place to get the logs in the hate crime statistics as a hate crime even though there's no crime and he retweeted a poem that was B transphobic and people were upset about if I didn't write the poem you just retweet the time the police investigated his retweet and he said to them have I broken the Lord they said this isn't a crime is unknown crime hate incident and the actual phrase the police officer used I'm not joking was we have to check your thinking right now and then when the police PlayStation just one road police officer getting a bitmap this is standard practice commission guidelines in the College of policing an alert on my email the first time they give you if it senses movement and alerts you and I open it up and there's my dog Bella just in the beginning of a horror movie if you get an alert on your phone and back at home there's a guy just staring in the camera what's a good premise for a movie so then I as I'm saying that to my opening act who wasn't a ghost I get another alert and then this comes up oh yeah you can see it up there that's George Carlin that's a man with a wrench yeah or a man in a trench coat with an Uzi this is 10:00 at night the only people home where my wife and my daughter this is on the second floor there is no Shadow coming in the thing it's a ghost that's a legit that's not a person for sure my wife is the only one in the house my dad just like a few moments of your time do you know all this report and you have a video of it was it moving or something but I have a video of another thing in the same office so I can show you this is weird yeah it looks way different in this picture with when it's smaller than it does Wentz large with which is scarier what is large it looks more like a person yes he does seem it seems like you know the light is behind him right like yeah you got to keep the outside right edge of it is sort of highlighted like there's a light behind them doesn't know it is weird the big one that I remember is on my second spacewalk we're connecting this dish antenna and had to go on top of this big boom like a big pedestal and there was a connector that had it an electrical connector and we had or so to connect the thing and without it connected it wasn't getting any power or data to that antenna and I can get too cold and it's gazillion dollar antenna could be a worthless hunk of junk if you take too long you're on the clock cuz when it was in the shuttle was plugged in it was getting its heaters were on and now you got to plug it back in to get the heaters back on in a certain amount of time and so we're okay we go together like it doesn't fit at least two pieces of equipment sat next to each other for like a year in Florida and I like a warehouse never thought well maybe we should make sure that Ono unfit you know what do we do so we're shoving and went shopping so hard we're pushing so hard that the guys inside the space station said they could have filled the space station shaking like that's how hard we're trying and if we see little metal shavings come off and windows they can get in the connectors would like that so we stopped and and then and then this was like kind of my my big hero moment you know I kind of movies they like Brad Pitt saves the solar system and stuff you know this is my thing right it's not that exciting but I thought I had this idea together so I said to the one of my crewmates inside how long till the sun comes up cuz you know it takes 90 minutes ago around the the Earth and every 45 minutes of sun to see that coming up or going down so can't be that long and he goes actually about 10 minutes cuz we're behind the Earth and it was dark and then in 10 minutes of Summer's going to come up to my perfect so I took the the the female side I took the male side and I held it in my glove okay and I put it behind the structure weight something's going to be coming from here so I put it in the shadow and I waited for the sun to come up and it hit the female side and the temperature difference if you're in the Sun or in the shade is I can be up to like six hundred degrees Fahrenheit difference so let the sun hit and warm it up and I took them outside quickly out of my my insulated hand and away from the Shadow and I slit in the one Reddit wow yeah so hot Mansion wow yeah we're so happy we are going Delta people manufactured it we're so happy I have video this so you can end end we are going to the high fives in the suits were doing like

this is awesome bunch of videos online of you talking about space and your your your dream of being an astronaut as a young man and what what is it like just to see the Earth from above and beyond you lived up there for like what 95 days is 95 days was actually it's kind of a bummer to be honest with you because you know this if you saw that video maybe the thing is if you stay for a hundred days they give you a patch right 95 and the Space Shuttle Discovery shows up to bring me home and Mark Kelly was a commander because Garrett's time to hop in and come home and like man I just need five foot two and spaces longest and end in a row basically but it is a Russian that stayed up there for longer than a year and he has the all-time record when they come back like what what is 90 days like coming back because I've talked to people gone there when they come back their balance is all off the equilibrium so yeah it kind of is the most at least that's what's most noticeable when you first get back after the first thing I noticed it let me backup is how heavy things were again you know so I like I took off my helmet and I was holding it in my hand and it felt like I was holding the anchor to the USS Nimitz going to brush my teeth and be like too arduous you know does your body severely weakened in 95 days while back in the date back when I was going there so that mission my my long-term mission was back in 2008 and back then we were still losing bone to be in muscle mass as we're going up there too long about us about 1% of bone every month says about 3% low they don't anymore they don't anymore cuz we found out we came up with better countermeasures to prevent that what are the countermeasures basically working out and it's resistive exercise that that does it for you which we knew back when I was going but the problem was we had a we had this machine that was kind of a first-generation of the workout machine do large reps but but low load so you're doing like a lot of reps Atlanta at low weight and and that help but it but what helps it turns out we didn't we found this out kind of by happenstance but it turns out that high load Low Reps works much better as we got this new machine that you could really Crank It Up to 11 and the guys now then that are working out on that thing or coming home with no muscle muscle or bone loss at all wow that's yes Chris Hadfield went when Commander Hadfield came back he believed he said it took him a whole year to recover yeah I mean that was still like a nearly still kind of in the early days so he I don't know which machine he use he probably did use a new one but overall it does take to get everything back to get your full vestibular system back your sense of balance to get your ball your bone all your muscle back to Baseline it took me a year to get all that back to Knox County so strange that your body just wants to shrivel up when you're up there because there's no gravity yeah it's really interesting cuz you it's an adaptation in that in the body is is incredible so what is doing is it's realizing hey you know I don't have to carry my own weight anymore so why do I need this big bulky skeleton you're becoming kind of like a fish where you're you're just you're s******* all the bone density because you don't have to your your body realizes I don't need it. It's okay it's like a fish in water you know that have fish had very slender bones that's how I look at it like a fish yeah and we fight it by working out and I have to workout everyday everyday everyday how often and how much time days do schedule 2 hours now you're not on the machine for 2 hours and it's also prep and nearly getting changed and you know clean it up afterwards but so you're working out good our everyday space weird what happens if you don't notice if you in the beginning you don't even realize it but it's all building up and even without like if you have no hair to soak it up it just builds up like this thin film of water on your head like a coating of water he don't even notice it cuz it doesn't run down and then and somebody calls your name Eli Canelo and it just goes everywhere so if you have it on your arm you can kind of just go and do what do the sweater go flying and I your crewmates won't be too happy with you if you do this a lot but yeah wow that's a video of people doing that in space because you're not loading soda sit behind our bones need a stimulus to regenerate it happens to us every day so as you walk as you go upstairs that load that the bones feel the compressive load is telling the bone hey make some more they take that away in the bone stops making more and that's the problem people say they can't you just taste like calcium pills but it's not a mineral deficiency the 90 days that has such a 10 if you didn't do anything for 90 days at all you'd be in real trouble right yeah that's what's really kind of freaky as they thinking about like what if we don't fight this because all these adaptations should go through or not a problem when you're in space is only a problem if you want to come home right right losing that bone even like not using your vestibular organs anymore your semicircular canals are otolith organs you're not making use of those for your balance you just come purely individual what does initialism make you kind of sick you get kind of it's like being are sick or sea sick but what's your body adapts your fine so the question is like what would we become if we didn't fight it what if we just went with it and stayed up there doing a water balloon become you become the place I think in science fiction it gets it the most correct as if you watched the expanse are Washoe right because it shows people like these belters that live in partial gravity like their whole lives and they have much slept more slender bones and like they catch this like terrorist guy and they want to torture him and all they do is make him stand up in gravity and on Earth and incredibly painful for him and that would probably be a long time to get everything back if you went from Earth gravity to the space station and you lived up there for a year and didn't do anything about Allen came back to Earth me basically be like it would be hard to crawl right yeah you all all your if you don't try to fight it or stuff would come back probably about the same rate but what you would be really hurting with your muscle atrophy and your phone so you would you would lose a lot of your skeleton if you're up there for a year and did nothing and you would also your all your muscles that you don't use like in your legs and your postural muscles on your lower back you're not used anymore so they would just like waste away to nothing you be okay in your arms cuz you're doing everything everything you do is with your arms that's how you move this a Getaround is by pulling and pushing but you don't you know there's no walking there's no stairs there's nothing this affect the way you think it all some people describe a short-term memory they called like space brain and bro I got that too is it it's something that I never really noticed it but I don't know how much of that is real and how much is like like you're freaking out cuz you're in space right so it's distracting and maybe you forget like what that number was you're supposed to remember but if you're really in the middle of something and you're all excited and and and kind of can't remember somebody's phone number it's kind of like kind of like that I would imagine that just being up there breathing that recirculated air it's got to be odd right yeah and it might stink but I don't know because the other thing that happens if you have this big fluid shift so right now we have a lot of blood pulling up in our legs and are our heart it's most important job of courses to feed the brain oxygenated blood and then when you take the gravity Vector out of the picture the heart sends too much to the brain and the stuff doesn't collect in our legs anymore and it all shoots up here and he get the shift of all that blood volume to your upper body and your head gets all puffed up bro yeah like night so my first night in space I went to sleep which is kind of hard to do cuz you're in space you don't want to go to sleep Friday and on that first night I woke up in the mail tonight and I could have sworn I was standing on my head doing a headstand are hands-down I'm like why am I standing on my head in my sleep this is strange right and then I looked at the one that's how they are time and space so all the blood was just kind of pooling in your head yeah it does feel like hanging by gravity boots or something it feels exactly like that and then after a day to you get used to it and it doesn't bother you anymore but you feel congested because you still have all this volume up here so your sense of smell and your sense of taste are all dead and it's kind of like yeah it's kind of like when you have a cold and in your sense of smell and your sense of taste are like not a strong so it's like that all the time that's how we take to recover we have every hot sauce known to humankind up on the space station relax Sriracha we got you know Louisiana Cajun fire sauce and whatever we got the whole stock pile of it because you pour that on everything so you can get some taste cuz otherwise everything tastes really plant oh wow what are you eating up there I was terrible is it freeze dried foods mostly or you don't go for the food which is essentially MREs like military freeze-dried irradiated you know infinite shelf-life kind of stuff and the Russian food is also based on their military rations but from summaries Russian food actually tastes better but the problem is when a presentation because it comes in cans so he get these these cans and even though it tastes good you open that can up and you look at it it's like God looks like dog food just like your jild and yeah but it's just like so unappetizing when you open that can open now would happen if you brought fresh things up there would they would they rot at the same rate to do with rotten America yeah don't get the thing is we have no Refrigeration we didn't when I was there they have to have a small refrigerator now so you can't have anything that needs to be refrigerated but you would usually like for the first couple days we take a bag of fresh food and we took like sandwiches and and and fruits and vegetables and stuff and then because that's the last time you're going to have it after that it's all going to be just the stuff in the so you can't have anything that needs to be refrigerated but you would usually like for the first couple days we take a bag of fresh food and we took like sandwiches and and and fruits and vegetables and stuff and then because that's the last time you're going to have it after that's all going to be just the stuff in the packets that you add water to

we talkin about how wrong they got the future in like space 1999 I think Blade Runner was like now right didn't we discuss this like last year 2019 like we got everything wrong what the timeline was the timeline is totally wrong but I think that the overall overall direction is is right in a lot of this stuff and we'll get there I do believe that if we don't end up killing each other or have some horrible catastrophe like a asteroid hit us we're going to end up living in space and have that kind of Star Trek future I mean I really think that's our destiny as long as we don't screw it up man how far out are we looking at Star Trek Star Trek might take a while do we get like warp drive and all that kind of years and we got to find out how far do you think we are like if you had a wide timeline of like literally being able to go to another planet you know tomorrow is it something we could do in a decade if we really really really want to keep saying that I think he's right I mean it's it's not a question of technology did the big missing piece I think in an understanding about what that would be like is is the effect of radiation on it and the human body there's engineering Solutions we could come up with for that no please for the prolonged journey to say yeah come on Turney what you start talking about it was so right now I like on the space station I took a bigger radiation hit then I would have if I stayed at home but you know that I took was not that much it's like like a tenth of a secret or something I mean it's like it was pretty so sievert if you take one Seaport teaching your chance of getting cancer depending on your age and gender about a couple additional percent can you mitigate that with supplements like Is there iodine that you take or something along those lines there's some maybe antioxidants but I take that that's that's not a Panacea is not going to fix this problem that could help maybe they say take iodine tablets right if you're exposed to radiation is not like something that they recommend yeah for the reactors take that protects the protective function of someone under the organs I can't remember but it's not going to solve that's not going to solve this problem but you can Shield yourself with anything that has hydrogen in it is a pretty good Shield so watered great like when I was on the space station I put a big water jug around my head and liquid hydrogen or even plastic that's made is is pretty good okay so you can have like conceivably a light plastic suit that you wear that could Shield you from a lot of the radiation on the way to Mars is actually a company in Israel that way it is Tammy with NASA is going to fly these like vests on to try to Shield the people you can also put it in the hole and or we can have just a storm shelter cuz there's basically once when we're on the space station were above all the atmosphere but we're still below the magnetic field of the earth so we still get we still enjoy a lot of protection from radiation once you go out can you go to the moon or Demars then you're basically hanging it out there you're not you no longer protected by that and so you're going to take either GCR Galactic Cosmic radiation which is just everywhere out there sounds terrible sounds bad GTR they can do a lot of damage that a lot of energy there there's accelerated to like near relativistic speeds like near the speed of light and then and then there's a solar then you got to worry about solar flares spu solar proton events and those don't come pick those are very unpredictable and some other a little bit predictable with sunspot activity but but they come every once awhile there giant spikes they last a couple hours to a couple days and they could totally fry you there even worse f*** yeah so conceivably we could send people to Mars and halfway there they get cooked yeah she have a six-month window will you have to just roll the dice well so what you can do it you can have a storm shelter right it will you put like a lot of this shielding and if you get detected the spe the GC are there all the time but the solar events you can you can detect them coming and you have enough warning time to get everybody Into the Storm show how much time do you have proton radiation then you start you have like an hour so you got time have The Shield at the shielding I mean if it's a really huge one and we didn't really have any capability of Defending from it when we did Apollo and it was a between to Apollo missions there's one of these big ones and we just got lucky that it was in between so that seems crazy like one of those and bring you back and probabilistically speaking you probably have like an additional for 5% chance of developing cancer over your lifetime which is not like a death sentence you know it's a little uncomfortable yeah but we're getting better and things about it when we keep getting better Technologies better shielding we can actually come up with there's ways you could do active shielding with magnet you can create your own magnetic field around the ship and and ends of Star Trek force force field or fields or whatever so we're looking this way is that maybe we could do that there's also the other thing that we don't know we know exactly what radiation is out there we don't know exactly what that radiation does to humans the best we have to go on his like data from some of the atomic bomb survivors and radiation workers that work in like power plants and stuff to take some dose that's a different kind of radiation so right now the error bars are when we say that go 5% chance of cancer that's taking a very conservative estimate if we can find out what it really does to humans maybe it's a lot more benign and maybe we could sharpen a pencil say yeah it's acceptable what if people come back smarter what if it's like some f****** X-Men type s*** yeah baby kid like you know I mean radiation is always bad in real life but it was good in comic books they were involved in some sort of an accident wasn't dr. Manhattan wasn't that a thing with him as well I think so yeah I think so I'm not going to watch man I think he became who he is because of an accident at the document I believe so I was hoping that I had my kids after I did that it's like I'm hoping that they would like one day he needs kids R kids now I got a nine-year-old boy and a two-year-old girl notice anything unusual about them I didn't know I was concentrating on her blocks and one of them started floating

what are your thoughts on this what was happening now with space-travel where it's transferring into the public sector for the private sector other instead of being something that the government handles now it's private companies is that a good thing it's a great thing is that yeah it because first of all it's not quite that black-and-white it in the media it's all portrayed as commercial space and like these over the truth is at least for the human orbital spaceflight they were doing a SpaceX and Boeing is doing with with their it's a part of the public-private-partnership sonance is working very closely with both those companies and we're working together and in a way it's not really that different for the way it's always been you know like massive didn't have a NASA Factory that built the Saturn V rocket is built here by like McDonnell Douglas and North American Rockwell built the North American built built the Command Module and a lunar lander private companies tractors but they're still private companies and what's happening now is just a slight change to the relationship between us and the private company's finances not micromanaging quite as much as they used to they're saying okay here's our top level requirements to get four people up and down to the space station that's a bit of a simplification cuz actually requirements document is like thousands of requirement but each requirement they leave it up to you so now sex is a lot more room to innovate then like North American Rockwell did when when they build the vehicles back during Apollo so that that and the other thing is different is due to funding the way the mess is paying its firm-fixed-price you know are all just like the space shuttle when we build an aircraft carrier it's it's Cost Plus Contracting which has been terribly abused and in has been horrible for the US taxpayer it would have says to the company is you can you could cost cos that's what we'll pay and in fact will give you a prophet as a percentage of the cost so that your innate your incentive as a companies like the Mets the cost as high as you can sell your profit as high as it can but that's ridiculous and and they had to do it that way because like nobody knew how much was going to cost to build a P-51 Mustang before so they came up with this mechanism but now it's kind of been using it to do things 4 in in the third thing is that the company's own the intellectual property so what that means is like Rockwell when they built the Space Shuttle couldn't like build a new space shuttle like build like Space Shuttle Enterprise or something and then go sell tickets on it they weren't allowed to but we can so we can we're going to build this Dragon we're going to take Bob banking to Doug Hurley two friends of mine are to be the first astronauts to ride it to the space station and one NASA NASA is our number one customer they're paying the bills so once they are satisfied we can end go make another one and sell tickets and take you know private individuals so really that's the key difference and I really think the 20/20 we're going to look back at 20/20 as it does a year that everything changed really yeah because the all those dreams of Science Fiction I like being able to take your vacations around the rings of Saturn and like all the like all the private space stations all that kind of stuff that we grew up hoping would happen when we were older I think it's really finally starting cuz this is this is the beginning of that infrastructure that good at that private-sector commercial infrastructure and and and ability to actually get it done

know when the first day you actually got up there was that the first time you would ever been in space on my first mission yeah the first day of his first time in space so your first view of the Earth from above window down there and it's in the corner okay so it's in the hatch and it's like the size of a dinner plate and I was up there you got a lot of work to do when you guys soon as you get up there so I'm working like crazy and after about 30 minutes I see this pale blue glow coming from that window and I'm like that's the Earth you know I should have a look at that and I'm super excited for this you know so I wanted to be ready so I pause I close my eyes I meditated and I'll call it whatever you want I just got ready and when I felt like I was ready I floated up to that window and I shut my eyes and I gazed out for the very first time at the Earth from space and what that felt like is really really hard to describe in words but if I had to pick one word to describe what I was feeling at that moment it would be really but man we've all seen pictures of the Earth from space okay we got like HD video coming down from space now where is just spectacular you can see stuff in that video that you can't even see with your own eyes like like the Aurora and all that and I'm sure like John Glenn and and like Eureka Guerin had no idea what to expect and so when they looked out and saw the earth a freaked-out you know and it and it was amazing and it was beautiful but it was it was underwhelming you're so high like I felt like I should be like some Heavenly Choir and that we should all hold hands this thing most people that have done it they talk about this realization that you like it is inescapable realization that we're all on this thing together and that all these boundaries of civilizations and cultures and countries and continents are all nonsense we're really just all on this one thing together yet it called that the overview effect and a lot of guys to come back and talk about that and they really feel it and it talk about a World Without Borders and you know and it's a beautiful sentiment and I and I don't I don't want to knock that in any way in the same boat you know but at that didn't strike me as a as a sudden realization it because I think it's cuz I knew that before I went that you shouldn't have to go and strapped into a rocket and blasts off and look at the Earth another basically we're all human beings I think it may I take the things that unite us are so much stronger and more important than it's been a crazy little things that divide us like race or sex or nationality or politics or whatever and in the end of the day we had this one home and and we're all stuck here in it together so I had that strong knowledge before I went and maybe that's why when I look down I'm like yeah there it is okay I get it but it wasn't like all of a sudden like that the the shade was pulled back in there is like suddenly a new realization about life is there one place that's the spot on the space station to get the view I really got a big window there's a huge window called the cupola that wasn't there in my first mission but was there in my second mission I'd say I got to see you at the second fatality window yeah it's not yet set Express pretty tight it's like a it's a dumb and so you get the full 360 View and it's spectacular wow and we tell the guys that don't get to do a spacewalk that this view is just as good as doing The Space Walk but it's not it's not but don't tell him because it makes him feel better. Don't listen what is a Space Walk Like a Man slim to none when I first got there to tell you when you're interviewing to become an astronaut to go talk to some of the other astronauts and so I went in there and we have his presentation about space walking and it seem like to be the like the Ultimate Experience just an incredible thing and I wanted to do it bad so I went I'm talking to this one at 9 is pretty tall guy those who they can't tell from the podcast I'm 5-4 okay so I'm not like that like a real powering individual little vertically challenged I guess and I'm talking to the real tall last night and I said you know just heard about the space walking sounds awesome I've been living in California I've been doing like some rock climbing some scuba diving maybe that make me a good candidate to do a space walk in the store last night looked at me like right now he laughed in my face what are you how rude I know it might my first thought was you know I thought I was supposed to be polite and this guy like was not being nice but he was exactly is being brutally honest you know it's kind of tough love and you like listen the suit is one-size-fits-all you're going to get in that thing is going to swallow you up and you're not gonna be able to do anything you can be useless so is it possible forget about it so I was kind of pissed off. so I get there I got the job and I go down for my first training exercise which was in this huge pool we got in Houston and it's like it's a hundred feet wide 2 ft long 4 ft deep and we can fit like most of the space station in there and they got a crane it comes by to put you in the suit which ways you know something like a hundred 75 lb and stuffy with urine it to get picks you up and it popped in the water and you float it's kind of like being up in space and that's how we train so get down there's my first very first exercise and I could tell in the first 5 minutes of this training exercise that big tall astronaut that laughed in my face was right to the arms and the legs a little bit and they have is actually three different size upper torsos there's a does a medium a large and extra-large but that said it's limited in in because it cost a lot of money to make different sizes so there's only the gloves I can tell her cuz that sucks in the most important thing but I'm getting my butt kicked you know and I and I got it needs Improvement which is a NASA nice way of saying it failed right but I wasn't ready to give up I went and I knew I was going to need help so I talked to the people that make that suit and it did some of those things are like they shorten up the arms they fix it up a little bit for me and then I talked to the trainers and we said okay yeah we got to think outside the box here if we give you the standard procedure you're going to be at a disadvantage but maybe we change your body positions instead of going straight onto the worksite may become at the work site from the size I get more reach that way and we start working at it and we got better and better and the story is that I got to eventually I got the highest possible qualification to do the most complicated spacewalks we do and ended up doing three different spacewalks career and a big tall guy in my face get to do any space station that's floating around and you're just hanging by a cord yeah hold on tight and prepare you for everything except for the visual so when you like her in the pool you're staring at the pool wall when you get up there and you see the whole earth below you some people go out there and get like a sense of fear of falling write the Space Station's moving 17,500 miles an hour but so are you so it's kind of like doing the wing wing walking on an airplane but with no air to blow you off the win so when you look at the Space Station's is Rock Solid but you look down and some people get the fear of falling in and then they hold on real tight which is a terrible terrible mistake because we called spacewalking but you're not walking you doing everything with your arms so you can wear your arms out exactly climbing and get like kind of totally thrashed in your forearms and it now you that claw hands useless you can do that and you got like 7 and 1/2 hours ago and that's bad so you're out there for 7 and 1/2 hours yeah diaper as well so during a training exercise I waited till like the very end just in case you know and I let one go right before they pull me at the pool one day and I resolved never ever to do that again that's it that's no we keep all these records I don't know it was God that record it's not me so you just have to let it go when you're up there so what it what are you doing when you're out there so if you're doing seven and a half hours worth of work you're basically doing maintenance so it's kind of like being a mechanic or a technician the way I described it to put the suit is like so hard it restricts everything you do that is blown up to about four pounds per square inch and so even just closing your fist takes work cuz it did the suits like a balloon and want to stay like this and so just closing your fingers is is takes effort and over 7 1/2 hours I guess really fatiguing you're moving your arms everything is an denim suit can only move like you can't do this right you can do this maybe so your your your ability to raise up your shoulders is really limited so you're trying to do all this work but you're working inside the suit and I described as like it's like trying to change the oil in your car while wearing a civil suit of armor what kind of Maintenance are you doing on the outside of the spaceship clean the windows getting the bugs off and on top of the space station we swapped out a bunch of batteries that we're getting old stuff like that like not work on this particular space while we were assembling a robot that we took up there but we did other things like we put a new antenna on top of the space station we swapped out a bunch of batteries that we're getting old stuff like that

underwater exploration as well what have you done there I live for two weeks in the bottom of the sea Jesus Under the Sea which works out to be about no that's are panicking now it's about 60 feet but the but the cool thing was we stayed there for weeks while I'm at know if your normal if you normally scuba diving and you go down 60 ft you have 60 minutes and then you got to come back up or you or you get too much nitrogen in your blood and you're going to get been right so so we if you put it is not a problem if you just stay the prom is then if you stay you build a ball that nitrogen in your blood that you can't go back up so if you run out of air or you lose sight of your buddy or something you can't go to the surface cuz within a couple hours you'll be dead wow so you have to stay down there and we use cave diving techniques and that we did a lot of training for to be safe and we have redone in tanks redundant manifolds redundant regulators and we can head valves that we can flip around so we can always make sure we could get air without ever having it in an emergency ever having to come up cuz coming up is not an option so eventually get out is a freaky thing it takes about a day and what you do is you take so we're living in this habitat and it was kind of like a submarine on the bottom of the ocean but it didn't have a motor so just like stuck on the floor like a big like a big guy selander and it had a hole cut in the side here and the only thing in the ocean that was the air pressure inside glow can I taking a cup and flipping over putting it in the bathtub and trap in the air and you just scuba dive on down and then you swim into that thing and it have been with your pop up in that hole it's like you're in a swimming pool inside the habitat and then you just step out into the habitat so this process of getting back to surface-level takes a day we have to do so we do to close up that hole and you convert the habitat into a pressure chamber and we do is he very very slowly bring the pressure back to sea level so you decrease the pressure and you slowly is it as if you're slowly slowly going up in the water column and it over as you do it gradually that the nitrogen slowly come but your blood and you can feel it kind of tingles wow over the course of a day just like you try to lie still in your bunk and just like read a book or something and it but you feel like this tingling and then after about a day of that they get you all way back to sea-level slowly so that the nitrogen but you know what it is it's like if you take a can of soda and you shake it up if you open the top quickly that's it that's a great now what's freakier being in the bottom of the ocean or being up in space space is more surreal the floating the the Earth out the window the views are better but being a down there was pretty well to ever once we doing this experiment where I had my crewmate and had an ultrasound and we can just tell him it is sin experiments to do these docks in Houston looking at the screen but there's a delay I'm supposed to find her kidney and am I searching around for a kidney and then I look up and look out the window and I see a 6-foot hammerhead shark right out the window and we have a guy in the water and I was and I dropped a giant I promise you know and see her liver explode on the screen or something and then unlike patients fine yeah that's got to be really weird right your ear in that thing and their world for how long 2 weeks yeah cuz that the weirdest animal that you saw is the Hammerhead the scariest thing I saw was one that I was taking a dump go into the pool could you use can you do when a flutter in your pool right this course that Caddyshack you know what the right so what you do is you go if you don't take a tank you just take your mask in your fence when you go down naked we had a mixed-gender crew so trunks but you know you just go down and have to swim I don't know it's like maybe 10 15 ft this not that far and there's a gazebo which is just a little Dome for that has air inside the middle of the Atlantic Ocean like with no tank note in your 60 feet down it's night you can't see a thing but you can see this little gazebo you swim to that you pop in and it got are just about you let in some fresh air and then you hold on and you just take off and Trunks and you just let it rip for the prom is the fish get accustomed to this Jesus yeah so they go there knowing that you poop as soon as you drop in the water at night it's like the dinner bell gone off his like the school yeah yeah cuz this is feeding time until you feel them like the back door the worst are the angelfish cuz that shaped like right up in there defeat down there scuba tanks at night at night with the sound of the ocean like like lapping against the the Dome and you looking down in this endless black you know just a black void and you're thinking about every single scary ocean movie like Jaws you know the Meg whatever they have best all those scary movies right and you think about all the things that could be down there can't help up going with you what kind of freaky and then you finish you put your mask back on and I took a big breath and I went down and I open my eyes in my in my mask in the darkness with my flashlight and I saw like right in front of me this huge eyeball like about the size I don't know if I can have a saucer you know like this pic is staring unblinking right at me and I free I just tore off for them for the pool for the moon pool and the habitat I jumped in there a surface I'm screaming I'm screaming and my crew come running think I like I've been bit by a shark or something and I'm like and it was Goliath grouper yeah those things could literally the person yeah it it is big enough that's for sure and so it was it just a side of it scared the heck out of that so where were you were in the Atlantic how far away are we from like Florida where you at we are just off the coast of Key Largo live down there yeah there's looks like a giant largemouth bass that's what it's like if you go bass fishing they're so similar to Bass like in the way they look that's another quick story about down there so I went out for a night dive once and I spent the beautiful thing about saturation diving like this as you can do basically infinite Time bottom time if you're not limited to like 60 minutes you can stay up there for six hours and do whatever so as not doing this night to have and I found this beautiful shrimp and was just spectacularly gorgeous is like translucent you can see through it uses organs move like internal organs like doing anything and I stared at it for at least just helmet light on it and just sat there and stared at it and it was really beautiful and I come back inside the habitat I'm kind of hungry and the best space food we got is shrimp cocktail grouper you to feel bad like a nice grouper sandwich in Florida but probably trying them out because they get hung out with you that big you probably have to eat so much non-stop buffet for those guys and so when you're down there and you're doing all the swimming you're using a rebreather no raising tanks regular scuba tanks and what is the capacity of Tanks like how how long can you stay down just swimming around 4 we have to and if we can isolate MKC one of them Springs a leak but you don't have that much more time than the standard take what we have is refill stations all around the floor with high pressure hoses so we have these quick disconnects on our on our system that you can plug in and fill it right back up and then you get to go for you know another couple hours so when you swim to go take a poo you have to do that if to wear the tank or did you not hold your breath just hold your breath that far how far you going back but that's all were you know another couple hours so when you swim to go take a poo you have to do that if to wear the tank or did you not hold your breath just hold your breath you're not going that far how far you going like 15 feet or so in total pitch-black there's a light on the Gazebo but that's all

1 things I want to ask you about space is we we always hear stuff about space junk about satellites and just junk that's floating around the atmosphere how much of a concern is that and what can be done about that stuff it's a huge concern it's a very very big problem in in the in the certain orbit around the Earth low earth orbit and also at the geostationary orbit so they're very that's where you can put that communication satellites and stay over one spot of the earth those are very polluted you knows a lot of junk and it is very dangerous and it's it's a real problem is hard to clean up over time eventually even even at higher altitudes is still a little bit of atmosphere like individual atoms eventually that slows you down it does to collisions eventually slow down So eventually it comes back but it could take a long long time come back to her anymore junk the best thing we can do smarter they get SpaceX we take our second stages and over NASA missions and after after we it's accomplish this Mission we keep enough gas in the tank to burn into one more time and bring it back in one piece so doesn't blow up into Smithereens and cause more junk whenever we do anti-satellite test though the child that is China did one relatively recently and we've done in the past there's like two words because they create giant cloud of junk and and we have to still we're still have to live with that Concepts on the table for how to get that stuff out there some ideas of using lasers that lays the things and in and make subtle changes to their trajectories and orbits but it's all the Technical Solutions are challenging and expensive so I don't know of anyone idea that's going to like just solve this problem easily cuz we seen a map of the Earth and all the different satellites that orbit it now and all the different pieces of could have been identified it's crazy the amount of stuff in it seems like nobody kind of thought it through they just sort of did it and left the junk up there and that's what humans do man I mean like we've been dumping stuff in the oceans forever and not really giving much thought to it and now we're finding giant gyrus of plastic or than you know so yeah first spacewalk wanted things we had to do was had to bring him his handle they were going to use in a subsequent spacewalk it was like it is we call Addie handles just basically a half inch piece of aluminum around like this that you can attach to something and carry things so that is big chunk of aluminum and we brought inside of my spacewalk partner Rick looked at the thing when we came inside us a whole shot shot straight through it like a millimeter in diameter is really small but it went right through half-inch thick solid aluminum he looked at that he said man if they hit one of us and he didn't have the finish that statement cuz of the stuff is moving generally speaking about 10 kilometers per second so it's like roughly 10 times as fast as a rifle bullet so something like that hits you could be a Fleck of paint hitting you at that velocity of a hitch in the suit you're in a hundred percent oxygen environment and you're just going to Flame up I mean instantly can bosses can be really bad day so he didn't have to like you said you know when he said that he'd have to finish it and we both looked at it and then I looked at him and said yeah but you're six-foot-four so statistically what it does is a couple times I was inside the space station at her just take a hit but I didn't hear the so that ping is probably something bouncing off something or going through something so the station at shielding it's called Whipple shielding and it's basically a piece of of a wall a thin piece of metal that stands off from the hole so the thin piece of mail is never going to stop this thing but it would hit that hypervelocity it breaks up into lots of little tiny pieces and it's almost like a fluid that point is like these look like at that come with a cloud of dust and then when it hits the whole there's individual pieces don't penetrate so just it just shatters it and that was that works at window it had it is hit the shuttle when do you know it has multiple pains and its really really strong but we came home with big it looks like La Quinta Rockets kicked up and it tastes really yeah we've we've seen that wow that's a little scary Jesus Christ a little about micro meteors and then there are micrometeorites but there are those two when you get out of way from Earth orbit like if we're going to go back to the Moon then there's no more human-made junk but there is those micrometer I just out there and that they could do the same kind of damage but there's a lot fewer of them the density of those things is a lot less than what you experienced so it's if you're going tomorrow I'd worry about the radiation first and then micrometeorites I like down the list to see so many things to think about

and hopefully we will be able to use this one like a hundred times at least now is there any Innovation or any breakthroughs in fuel and in the type of propulsion systems that you need me to do it conceivably is there ever going to be a time where we have like a like a Star Wars X fighter that can just go shoot off onto its own that you know there's a potential for more advanced more efficient thrust engines in and probably one of the most promising ones in the new term is actually a nuclear engine a nuclear thermal pocket where you instead of using combustion to propel hot gases out the back of your nozzle you refuse a nuclear reactor and you take hydrogen nuflo it over that the heated up like super hot and shoot out the back without lighting it on fire and if you do that you can actually get much more thrust at with much less mass of a few like a smaller fuel tank but more thrust overtime so that's one possible way to go so it's conceivable that wonder that could be a standalone unit doesn't need thrusters that eject it still would look like a regular rocket cuz at the back of the of the nozzle still have like Fire come out the back but we just be superheated instead of letting on a fire to heat it up you do it there you go. So the top one is traditional in the second one's a nuclear one man in flying over the reactor instead of having liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen then you just all you need is a liquid hydrogen's wow that's one way but it is short-term the advance you're sitting there with that starhopper is that it's still a traditional chemical propulsion rocket so it's got fuel and oxidizer which is liquid oxygen has no oxygen up there to have fire you need to Pyramid right so you need the oxygen and the fuel and a spark and you have to bring your own oxygen if you're in space cuz you can use the you know how that was so you carry liquid oxygen and some fuel and in the Falcon 9 for example its is basically kerosene it's Rocket Fuel base rp1 but it's basically kerosene mixed with liquid liquid oxygen the engine you saw in that starhopper is advancing different cuz what he uses it still uses liquid oxygen but instead of kerosene that uses liquid methane and is actually not as efficient it doesn't have a quite that the specific impulse which is a measure of efficiency it doesn't have that quite as good as hydrogen it's better than kerosene but not quite as good as hydrogen but here's a thing you can make it on Mars and that's why that's why you aren't feeling that engine because you can go to Mars and you don't have to bring your gas to come home so that was the big knock on going to Mars for the longest time is that you never be able to return you do you have to have to wait two years for the trajectory for the plans to come back around when do they come home so you do at the stay awhile but did the beautiful thing is if you can go someplace and and gas up again fill up your tank without having to bring all the gas with you that's huge right you can you can be so much you can carry so much more that way and and that's what you can with a carbon dioxide it's in the Martian atmosphere and the water that's in the ice that's on the surface of Mars you can have a reaction process by that allows you to create to take those two things make liquid meth and you can have that a tank of that ready to go and all done robotically you can get the Telemetry back saying we got the gas and then you go now how much are things can accelerate now that you have all these different companies competing against each other that's as beautiful as it is like the pace of technological changes like really going exponential again just kind of like it was during Apollo so we're back into that really rapid that fast-track we kind of fell off of that for a little while and then I sing about what's the biggest difference between working at SpaceX and work at Nasa now it's a business decision speed cuz what will make up my mind quickly now the reason we can do that as we got a tremendous amount of agility cuz sometimes when you make up your mind quickly you make the wrong decision right but if you hurry up and figure out they made the wrong decision and he have the agility to Dan say Okay that was not right let's try not something else then it works at Nasa you know we had all these contractors and suppliers and and a very cumbersome kind of system that we took a long time to make sure we made the right decision because changing things was prohibitively costly but SpaceX doesn't have to worry about that now what is the difference in the way SpaceX is handling it you said Boeing has something what are they called again so NASA commercial crew program in a selected to commercial companies to partner with SpaceX and Boeing and sews bowling is using and an older Rockettes been around a long time called Outlets and they build a capsule to go on top of that called the Starliner and so this is strictly for commercial flights well if Emily is for it is said that the anchor tenant if you will that the core customer is still NASA has NASA is going to use both of these Rockets to replace a space shuttle and we won't have to beg the Russians for rides anymore what's the name of the Starliner we're used to be called a cst-100 POS 100% works but that's a good REITs a good vehicle kind of similar and its design a little bit and do it while I was pretty dope Wheatley Splashdown in the water and this one lands on land what does airbags so do wow surrounded by these gigantic airbags and bounces and hits the ground but doesn't bounce cuz that that's not good for people robots don't mind but if you bounce like that you're going to be really upset so it just hits in and kind of like airbags to deploy in a car and they deflate and then you're done and so this is on the same sort timeline as the SpaceX ship little longer cuz they're talking about extending the mission for Bob and Doug and keeping them on the space station so they need more training sorry Bob and Doug and their equipment is keeping them from losing all the bone density and when does Elon go to space do you have to have the system work in before you put the boss in the capsule and shoot them up in the heavens he's got a lot of work to do here so I don't think he's going anytime soon he does eventually when when when we get this up and running it does eventually want to go he talks about he wants to die on Mars just not on any text we thought that way maybe we can get them high again

churches to me it seems like if you pay attention to the track if you track technology look where it's going things constantly improve they constant with we we demand constant Innovation and we're already wearing these things on her body and watch is now a lot of people wear in the Apple watches in the Samsung and all the Google watches and it just seems inevitable that it somehow or another advances to a point where there's a chip or something you wear or so plate that they put in the back your head and screw in yeah but anyways like black mirror and it has the problem may not be good I mean but do you have a sense of history that you are first of all you're amongst one of the rare human beings it has ever been in space and then to your working for a company that is at the very tip of the Spear of innovation like the that you are at the front of the line in terms of creating viable methods of sending people into space and returning them I feel extremely fortunate you know at that to have that experience I had at Nasa and had the visceral experience incredible experience of flying in space doing spacewalks I'll bring robot arms launching on the rockets and all that and then coming to SpaceX and being there at the end in the relatively early days and and being there for seven years I feel yeah I feel pretty satisfied to see I got incredibly lucky to see these things and be in the room where it happens you know it's it's pretty remarkable now so now I'm now I'm still Consulting the SpaceX but I'm a full-time professor at USC's and I'm teaching and I'm also working on TV show so now I'm like taking that those incredible experiences I had open up a lot of other doors and I kind of like work and work on the TV show I find myself liking there in the writers room with a whole bunch of really talented creative people why just no way in a million years I would this would ever happen to me if it weren't for these incredible experiences I was lucky enough to have you know it's like that gets even Atkins really so real I can only imagine I mean I can only met you even especially coming from your childhood having that image on your wall and now really being a part of this massive change in the way human being going to be able to travel in Space TV show cuz you were talking about it off here before we started yeah so this is for all mankind it's on Apple TV and the way I got involved with this thing I was a big fan of Battlestar Galactica that the Ritu was awesome was so good and that the whole concept and everything all that other things are exploring and in science fiction is always as best when it's like an allegory and the way they explored things are happening in society like terrorism and stuff the way that way was depicted as in an alternate universe I thought was spectacular or something like that you have things stored or is there a TD up there there's no TV but there is we have all these laptops so they can set up files and you can you can give him like four shows that you like how long does it take for a show to download and space let it download it for you which is nice about your while you're working and then when you're ready to watch you just pop up the file so is it like a satellite connection Internet satellite it's it's kind of it it's a it's a KU Band system that goes to satellites that aren't part of NASA satellite so-called satellites of the data goes up to teachers and it down at Ground stations to White Sands and then what's your late-night you don't remember the numbers but we weren't getting at when I was there we weren't any live internet because all that bandwidth is being used for science to get that all the data from the experiments in the video yeah just Google searched random things we supposed to be doing your job in space so you get the shows and you're watching Battlestar Galactica at Colbert Report Daily Show and like New York Yankees game and it just in the background and so now I feel like you're the crack is bad it's kind of gear in space but you still can't connect to the home that seems like something that would go on a movie guy who is working on a spaceship in the movie is listening to a baseball game yeah I mean like battle so much about starting to like now. I'm in the final season in there like finding Earth I'm like it's right there in a spaceship you might be the only person ever while my commander was watching it too soon as I get them for you Lord David Icke creators Battlestar Skype session you know science fiction and science fact and had this is crazy feedback loop about you got to think about it first I could go back and look at 2001 and you see these guys using tablets in 1960 was a 1968 that movie came out and you know Steve Jobs one of those right and so this is crazy like interplay between fiction and fact and and I got to talk to her more about all this and then any invited me to come onto set for the for the final episode of Battlestar and you're not supposed to like the first 30 days you're back from a long-duration mission you not supposed to like go anywhere and I'm like look the only going to shoot this once I'm going to the last time I checked this is a free country and I can stop me so I went and I went all way up to Vancouver and I got to go into set amid all the cast I got to be a focus puller on the camera guy got to do that that that sticks in LOL wow I just had a blast an extra as a colonial marine in the back of a ship that gets blown up I'm sure that show is super complicated to make but I would love 5 which is not the most popular Network and it's also a reboot of a classic show so maybe it had like a bit of a stink to it but that was so much better than the first version of it it's f****** good man I mean you couldn't have it without Star Trek you couldn't have it without the original Battlestar Galactica but but at the end of the day it's kind of build on each other and Ron went off and did Outlander after that and now he came up and he says I got this new idea can I come by and maybe I like ya so you came to the place and then we sat down at the in the cafe and is it okay so I'm thinking about doing a show about NASA back in like the 70s and be kind of like a. Piece would be kind of like we have a cast of characters but they're all working on Apollo and it would be true to real life but it would be the drama of the people behind the scenes as it sounds pretty cool. Yeah I'm also with a slight twist that where we use an alternate reality and in his alternate reality things we start at that point but things turned out differently and we start talking about like how close the Russians were to actually beating us to the moon was not allowed people know about but when I was over there in Moscow I got to see actually there and they have a warehouse where they still have their lunar lander for example that they built they were really working hard on it so we started what if it like what what if the Russians got their first what would what would America then he'll think how would things be different today if that seminal moment of Neil and Buzz stepping out on the moon was it said Alexa in the owner of a cosmonaut doing it right and apple and they bought it and then he called me up and said what you want to work on the show and yeah so what is your role would you do there but I get involved like everything's I was in the writers room with her first coming up with basic ideas and sketching out like multiple seasons and character arcs and all that kind of stuff and then I got that done and get all the scripts and I read them all on a given notes on all the scripts and then they come to the set night and meet with the actors the cast and I give him the suggestions about like how to look real when they're in space and then I like work with the VFX guys I work with a stunt team I get phone calls from my hair and makeup people like do with their hair if they have long hair when they do a spacewalk and like you're calling the wrong but so you can pay a whole lot of money and go to Fantasy Baseball camp and like you get to like have batting practice with the Dodgers or something and they humor you because you paid a lot of money well it's kind of like that I keep waiting for them to say it like okay the fun is over get out of here it's go back to your day job you know but I'm like I'm just loving it that's why I'll see how much correcting do you have to do how much do you get the script and that doesn't happen that you can't do that that's not it depends and every Productions different the nice thing about For All Mankind has a really really want to get it right I worked on other projects where they say they want to get it right but then I like completely Bluff the laws of physics and and you know I'm okay with that cuz the Martian with the hand-cutting thing I guess I just assumed my students like nobody goes to see a movie for the orbital Mechanics for the story the characters and it doesn't make sense you watching something like gravity that was a big one lot of people got really like Neil deGrasse Tyson I get it he hated hated or you know since we're not close to each other out the inclinations are the orbits a totally different than that you're going to go from one to the other with a fire extinguisher I knew that was complete b******* don't get me wrong but that leap were they treating you like you're a moron they're treating you like there's no way you're going to be able to research this was something like you Someone Like You Rather that's your life so you know that's nonsense he's sitting there watching some hokey solution for something that would never work if it gets to the point where I like that's a beautiful thing about like doing this with televisions you don't have to actually be right just have to be believable it which of the bar is it like when I'm teaching my class at USC I got to be right but when I'm like maybe this could happen you know what the TV show it's easier but this TV show the wholesale changes to episodes not to interfere with their creative process cuz they're really really good at that and I'm you know I'm not worthy but I'm like yeah okay I see what you're trying to do you want this guy to be the hero you want this person to feel remorse you want this in end in the end over the course of time this person has a change of heart I get the story but what if instead of doing it this way what if the events occur like this cuz this could actually happen right and so I tried to change it and is one that like like episode nine and Lil Bit of episode 10 of season one we ended up sitting I ended up sitting to working very close with the writers and changing the all the technical content to fit to make the story work in a believable way and that it went when we do that and then you see it on the screen it's like so incredibly rewarding it's really fun that must be especially if someone is a Sci-Fi fan what you've had to dream lives here like I know you're for really like that you've gone from that NASA Tess SpaceX it's really fun that must be especially if someone is a Sci-Fi fan what you've had to dream lives here I can only afford really incredible that you've gone from that from NASA SpaceX and now to be able to create television shows that you can actually enjoy wow

what what changes have been made since you go from the old shuttle model of that technology to the SpaceX Dragon crew think probably the single biggest changes is all the we've gotten a lot better at electronics and software so the vehicle is highly automated and that's why we can fly like like normal people that don't have like years and years of training because it's so much more smarter than the shuttle so much better but you're such a genius you're not supposed to use language like that you're goddamn out you're not so much more smarter the re-entry tiles likes and then that's that's what did Challenger know which one was Olivia Columbia that's what did Columbia in the the new design have they made advances and how that stuff is applied or is it a different surface that use yeah so so that that is something it's also not really worried anymore that the reason at Columbia took that damage was his phone like the big orange tank that's behind the space shuttle it sticks up above the space shuttle and some foam go off of it we always had some phone shutting off the thing and in the beginning we took that very very seriously as a major problem but the thing is is it's this concept of going to forget the name of it now described it so so you get away with something for so long that normalization of deviance that's what it's called so it's when you get away with something for so long and it was a deviant thing or something is treated as a normal thing and that's what happened to us cuz we knew that that phone coming off could do damage to the Space Shuttle and in the beginning we tried really hard to do something about it we treated very seriously but it was hard we couldn't really come up with an easy fix and the meantime we're flying and nothing bad was happening what was really happy as we're getting lucky and then eventually a big piece came off hit Columbia right in the wing and it shattered but nobody knew sure and they made a bad decision to not like investigate it further assumed it was okay brought him home and and obviously know what happened so it could be possible to fix something like that if they had known you could have been possible if we did a lot of things like when I flew we had a lot of things and places to try to fix that one we got to rid of a lot of the phone that was unnecessary we try to do things that stopped a phone we also have ways of detecting it so that we would know we had sensors in the wings we added a maneuver we do when we fly to the space station did like a picture of her where we took photographs of the of the heat shield to see if anything got hit so at least we would know and then we could we could shelter in place on the space station so if there's a lot of things we can do at the shuttle but goodnight the thing about with dragon in sand Starliner the new vehicles is a sit-on-top so there's no any for any phone that comes off the rocket is not going to hit you so problem solved so that that's one example of how we not to worry about that anymore is the surface different do they still have the same kind of tiles the heat shield is coming looks like the heat shield is that the material on the side of the cats on the walls of the castle is is made out of silica so it it's it's similar to the tiles but the material that's in the in the heat shield itself is an ablative material needs it kind of like as as it heats up its lights off and it takes the heat away with it and that's that's kind of more similar to like it was during Apollo is a much more advanced can we see that we go there will they give us a tour at that we can I bet wake up my available that I want to see a spaceship they got you should ask was my boss when he was here girl is there as the pain has a tiles but that he Chill on the bottom is is called a pika a carbon a blade ever so it's a different it's a different very high-tech material that is really really good it was standing tremendous amount to eat that that each other's way oversized you could use that thing at least 10 times and it really was originally designed for actually entry is coming back for the moon when you going much faster and you hit it you build up a lot more heat when you hit the atmosphere then just coming back from the space station so ultimately that's the goal for these things to take people to the Moon to take people tomorrow to take people well and reusable right this is just a start series ability is key and there's elements of this vehicle that are not reusable that trunk you see the thing the cylinder below the capsule is not reusable we throw that away that that the second stage in the Falcon 9 we throw away and you know you want hates that Holy Grail is 100% but affordable usability where you don't have to spend like it at a gazillion dollars refurbishing it in between flights and we're getting there in the next vehicle is going to be the real that's going to be the real hope we will we will we will get that Holy Grail with this Starship that that we're working out now so this is a top-secret one that you can talk about what it is you seem hesitant press conference in front of it in Texas not too long ago and she really showed out what it looks like yeah that is the test called starhopper so this was a beginning this is a test bed to test the engine to make sure that weekend but that's fake that's real that's real that is not CGI what is the jet coming out of the bottom buzzer that the bottom is a is there as a raptor engine is burning liquid methane and liquid oxygen and in those Puffs at the top or cold gas thrusters just to keep it pointed in the right way and so that's Landing now yeah my God that's amazing Bezos companies got all kinds of incredible stuff on Air Jordan board 2020 is that start but it's just a start tell me that again like look at that man play some War of the Worlds type s*** like Tom Cruise movie right there are flying over Earth and they were starting to land my God that's amazing did the video some people listening can go 150 m starhopper test more than 2800000 used out that's next days rocket and then that thing is going to sit on top of it or something like that thing and then we're going to get both back the rocket will land on its tail and then one thing after it goes off to the moon or even Mars it'll come back and also land out of town then we'll get both pieces will get 100% back wow and then we really got reusability.

the concept is terraforming right that is that's not going to happen I think even dealing with tell you that's not going to happen in his lifetime that's something that like generations for now we can think about it's that's that's hard so there's some sort of domed civilization like what yeah live in some kind of pressurized compartment some kind of pressure ships land on planets and people live inside the chefs and you can't go outside unless you wear a suit that's wear a suit inside if I gross to be really big and we also have to make sure it's really really well protected from radiation cuz even once you're on Mars have to worry about those GCR as in yeah really sitting around drawing up plans for that. That was kind of like like if we had to do it how could we do it this one thing you know if that came off the top of his head but it was that there was to raise the temperature or the change the atmosphere that's it like melt the captain in eject a lot of gas into the atmosphere and beef up the Martian atmosphere what a weird roll the dice that would be what time would it take to turn that into a livable environment that you're starting to really extrapolate a pretty far and it'd be pretty hard for me to give you a timeline that looks like giant that's that's a big one but it's as a proof-of-concept it's it's sort of a mean there is a theory right that you can alter the atmosphere and enough gravity that if you could put enough gas into the atmosphere of it stick around kind of like it's it's got it is possible you're not going to get to one atmosphere pressure like 14.7 PSI like we enjoy here but might be enough now there gravity is what percentage of Earth's sponsored so you definitely experienced a lot of the same issues that you have if you go to the space station so if you wanted to go from Mars back to Earth do definitely some sort of energy the. Yeah really interesting thing is like we know we have a lot of data we know what happens in zero-g cuz we have a lot of us have been up to the space station and Skylab and mirror and all that and we have tons of data at 1G cuz all of us everyday living 1G we don't really have any data in between so the question is is a half a g half as good or maybe it's like 80% is good Bryant and and is it linear or non-linear we don't know and that's why if we send people and we live on the moon or we go to Mars we live on Mars and we have data and I kind of moon is about 1/6 of the Earth's gravity so we'll get points in between and then we can figure out if this thing is there's a lot of stuff that happens to you that may be completely solved but even just the smallest amount of G but we don't know Georgie's an issue we don't know how much of an issue 1/3 G is now what about food like what are they going to do with food on Mars are they going to have to fly all the ingredients out everything out we'll just talk about missions that are that long caring all your food with you bringing it all becomes masks prohibitive you know you just got take so much and you know it doesn't work so we're probably if we're talking about like living for a long time I Mars Raven deep space missions we got to grow food so we can probably plants hydroponically like the Matt Damon movie yeah yeah because there's not really enough Dynamic pressure in a martian Windstorm to knock the antenna off the roof done this in the Comm system that's not really really listen I have a long day at work at SpaceX I come home I open up the book before I go to bed and I'm reading this like okay I got 62 souls and I got to cover 3000 kilometers and 52 moles of nitrogen hydroxide blah blah blah and I'm like it's like I'm still at work okay that makes more sense but that movie was terrifying like the idea that you get stuck up yeah the only part of the movie which I don't think was in the book that was not realistic at all was when he cuts his glove and does the Iron Man thing you can't really control it that you need a big hole realistic at all was when he cuts his glove and does the Ironman thing you can't really control it that he was spinning out of control us you'd also need a big hole to really get enough propulsion and then at your suit would deflate I mean it's just that she's not going to work

well I mean it has to be stressful you're the King of the Hill yeah and it has a lot of things they don't tell you when he lost a BJ Penn I was interviewing him in the Octagon he said something like really honest and very shocking he said honestly he goes it's a relief he goes like being a champ and the stress of it all goes I'm I feel relieved to have been locked my friend did to lose is very like the fact that he had the balls to say that admit it but hey it's a relief like you know he just choked me out but I'm happy I'm happy and happy days for for guys like that that that reset status it is the Anderson Silva the Georges St-Pierre those guys it is a relief because you know and I'm just I'm starting to see a little bit why because as soon as I walk out of there defending your title as soon as you just beat this kid up fan can't wait to say oh no this is the guy that's going to be done that's the guy is going to beat you so there's this really know come down you know let me take a vacation we do this no because fans are on it they want a guy to step in there with you tomorrow to beat you always everybody anybody who's a champ but that that's not imagine doing that 567 times over and over like these guys George St-Pierre just have you guys said you know what he's the best know it's like you were good but this guy's going to beat you this guy decides good enough of these always going to be a certain percentage of people that are not happy with anything but I saw all your people their tweet and talking s*** about Connor after just one Flawless Victory 40 second knockout of Donald Cerrone and they were like that doesn't prove s*** you know he's got fall apart and fight anybody good soon as he gets in there with the wrestler this and that blah blah it's like some people are just now absolutely you can't fix them you just got to accept them the way they are just like one of the advice that Richard gave me early on is make friends with this friends with with cuz you know how you get worked up before 5 you don't even know he's like not make friends at that feeling because that that's a good feeling you know or you backstage before you're fired you super nervous you want to take a s*** you know you want a p u p like 50 times you barely drinking water but somehow there's some kind of pizza and he's like no make friends with that feeling you know the moment you accept that feeling it's not that big of a burden anymore Rashad's a wise man on a supervisor that's a very that's a very wise piece of advice cuz it you can really change your perception based on how you approach something just decided it's alright this is a part of the process is what's up big for me right now and it's a fine line between routine and obsessive-compulsive very very fine line because he started on for me early on when I when I started it succeed in wrestling I was okay this is my routine okay I'm looking at the okay I'm 10 matches out so that means I need to get up and I need to warm up my woman was the same I'm going to jog back and forth twice before I get back and forth twice before I I do my lunges back and forth twice why do my stance emotion back and forth twice like it was it was that routine I had to do at that time or no I'm going to the restroom I need to pee before I go for this match but I'm going to go into the same bathroom I'm going to the same store, use the same thing to wash my hand get one or two paper towels throw it away go back out like it got to a point where it's like that's my routine and then I go out there and I perform and I went in my jacket that's why that's why I'm performing so I had to realize that because it's not just chilly OCD because when you when it becomes obsessive compulsive is when for me when it's when you feel like you can't succeed unless you do those that drive so it's like to hang out I forgot to do that I'm going to lose I'm going to lose no it's I had to learn how to control it early because it's alright that's my routine but even if I didn't do that I didn't have enough time to do that because sometimes you have enough time to do it Dino something goes out of whack matches an early but then you don't have enough time to to get your routine and so it's I had to be able to just remind okay you still go out there and perform we still got that special in the fight can you go out there to Quick knockout boom boom boom you thinking you've got 30 minutes to warm up cuz I know you got that coming back you got 10 minutes so it had to be able to just my mind okay you still go out there and perform we still got that special in the fight came to Quick knockout boom boom boom you thinking you've got 30 minutes to warm up cuz I know you got that coming back you got 10 minutes

is any of this all all all the pressure in the Scandal every 3 weeks is this is it away on you is it is it difficult how are you feeling like when when I was going out to reuse thing it's been a boom right yes I shouldn't say this but I'm going to because it's just so goddamn funny I can't help it say that I figured out how to monetize social justice Warriors goddamn Capital STEEZ make more money off this ideological Warfare so let's go protest protest me so it's like I don't know what to do when it's free and people are giving me money sending it to me I'm not twisting their I'm not even asking them for it well if that's not exactly right cuz I set up the patron account but that's more complicated than it looks a lot of that was curiosity and I thought well I could increase the production quality of my online videos left-wing ideologue psych 200 University of Toronto community members signed a petition to get me fired again and I was kind of upset about that and this is what my life is my son came over that day and I said Jesus Julie and you know I'd like 200 people at the University of Toronto petition The Faculty Association and then they sent in the petition fee Administration to get me fired with the faculty Association that's my union they didn't even contact me worry about it. It was only 200 people and I thought that's what my life is like it's like a day where 200 people sign a petition to get me fired as a professor my son can come in and say well that's not so bad it's like it's only 200 people say that online and look what's happening and then the support would be overwhelming for who knows how many people stration at the University of Toronto like they didn't take they didn't take it seriously at all called have me removed it didn't cause any didn't even caused a ripple know who it is 200 people and what was their motivation you based on that old because they think that the people who conducted the Inquisition yes but it look like I mean I mean this formally like 20 members of pimlott Sandra Buchanan's faculty that was Communications at Wilfrid Laurier wrote a letter supporting them so that's why it's not an isolated incident it's like no no they thought they were doing was right this Mass Hysteria ideologies have been completely connected to the same type of group think that's going against Lindsey Shepard in that meeting what what what I say crazy stressful it's it's the best way to describe it is surreal it's like I stepped outside myself I can't I can't put this in a box I don't know what to make of it I don't know what to make of the channel 4 interview you know it's like what the hell really it's it's it's crazy about these conversations are so limited by what you were saying for the day trying to get this 5-minute Sound by then and that's what televisions become it's a dying medium it doesn't make any sense doesn't make any sense to sandwich these commercials in every 15 minutes or whatever they do none of it makes any sense it's an archaic way of communicating ideas you going to do what you want with everything on my TV space requirements on YouTube so you don't have to do this twist the complex event into a short soundbite and entertain everyone no space requirements on YouTube so you don't have to do this twist the complex event into a short soundbite and entertain everyone

and how long would you survive out there with no suit that's a good question just holding your breath just don't well you can't really hold your breath because as of deza pressure all goes down the first thing you have to worry about is barotrauma so like in your lungs and in your sinuses and it's all going to like like an overinflated balloon so is it safe to try to hold your breath that's the wrong thing to do cuz you're going to have to let the breath out like the way people hold their breath underwater they actually have breath in their lungs yeah but they're not equalizing with a pressure as they go down you don't want to do this like freediving right so if you're going to equalize you're going to have to let the air out or it's going to just expand and is be extremely painful and it hurt you so you could do that but then eventually you get to the point where they would have pressure gets so low that the all the liquid in your tissues turning into gas is called ebullism and then you'll start getting his massive swelling like your neck puff up like that and everything you'll get grotesque swelling and wherever that their blood is turning to gas and all the other liquids in your tissues are turning into gas as it's not a good thing how long will that take it's like scooters suits with mechanical counter-pressure that squeeze and hold it in like a blood pressure cuff kind of pressure kind of thing so you could do that it's like industrial vacuum Chambers and 1 test chamber and NASA once had an accident and we moment vacuum Chambers and 1 test chamber and NASA once had an accident and we've momentarily is subjected People Too Close to space vacuum the very quickly got it back the pressure and they were okay so all the bubbles just

what is the timeline in terms of like does SpaceX have multiple stage timeline like a timeline for incorporating the dragon crew and then a timeline for the starhopper and then a timeline for additional projects in the future like as it is he thinking along these lines of like like charted out progress oh yeah yeah when we have a self-sustainable colony on Mars sooner or later that's the prison by which he makes every like every single decision he makes it makes it through that prism yeah so he's got an idea and he'll keep pushing and and you know he gives us aggressive timelines that we have to work too and we work really hard to try to try to meet him it's hard when you're doing stuff that this does this complicated to predict exactly how long it's going to take so yeah we end up off and falling a little bit behind but we that's the case though with everything that's that crazy right specialty lines never write notes predictions all wacky inventions there always a little off but we think such a smart guy and he's the most he is really the most driven person I think I've ever met I'll give you a story that the kind of Illustrated once interview 50 minutes and they interviewed at Elon and and myself and Scott Pelley was the anchor he talked to us and he said to me why did you leave NASA and come work for SpaceX you had like the best gig in the world you know going up on rockets and stuff why would you do that and I said well if you can go back in time and you are young engineer and had the opportunity to like get in on the ground floor and work with Howard Hughes when he was like doing all the crazy stuff he was doing it in his which want to be a part of that it's got probably look at me like with a deer in the headlights look cuz I don't think he knew what I was talking about but I was like that's what but then I realized as soon as I say that like oh my God I just made a terrible strategic error I compared my boss to Howard Hughes and know things didn't end up that well for Howard you know he went crazy and how's it going now I really kind of stepped in it right so it took a while I was like months later we were driving it in a rental car Just the Two of Us in Florida we were had a meeting at Nasa and we're driving back to the airport to get on his airplane to come back to LA and I'm driving the car sitting in the passenger seat and I said hey boss on TV and I compared to that Howard Hughes I just want you to know I was comparing you to the young dashing Starlet dating Howard Hughes not the old decrepit peeing in jars fingernail. he'll consider it and he'll kind of go into this unless I get transol stare off into space is too and you can see the wheels turning heat focusing at all of his intellect which is considerable on this one question and that's what was happening so I waited and then he turned back to me said you know Garrett I don't think it's an apt comparison okay good good why but I'm curious why do you think that and he said well none of Howard's designs as brilliant as they were ended up really changing the way we live our lives so we don't send like he made that the Spruce Goose which is an incredible airplane was all would you know trying to solve the problem during the war of rationing Goods across the oceans and giant wooden airplanes we don't do that the H1 racer was a beautiful airplane but it was a one-off and Eveready led to a large shirt designs that changed the way people live there so that was his objection was not that like I was comparing him to some creep but that he wants is really important to him to have the legacy of Jurassic Lee impacting the way all of us live our lives a kind of the way Steve Jobs did or others that that really move the ball downfield for Humanity that's what's driving he's such an unusual that you could make any kind of rational compares two other than maybe Nikola Tesla will you really stop and think what he's done and the fact that he doesn't know simultaneously these involving the boring project he's involved in Tesla and SpaceX all simultaneously and Tesla home solar all the the solar panels in the making solar tiles for roofs and he's doing so many different things at the same time it's it's almost impossible like it. I don't understand how he does it I still don't understand it you know it it's like kind of burn myself out just trying to do one of those things that is all of them and end and he does have all the advantages of wealth which helps you know so like he'll have meetings with us and he'll walk out of his last meeting and he'll walk across the street to Hawthorne airport hop on his jet and he's at Palo Alto in a couple hours and you can be first thing in the morning at Tesla he's got a staff to help some and you know he's got those advantages he he that isn't it anyway describe what are or that doesn't explain why he's able to do what he does I don't know how he does it to be honest the next stage of humanity people are evolving he's he's like looking at us from the next spot he's like hey guys I've got some ideas he's just an idea Factory and end his is knowledge I mean I've met a lot of super super smart people but they usually super super smart on one thing and he's able to have conversations with our top engineer's about the software and no the most Arcane aspects of that and it helped turn to our manufacturing engineers and and have discussions about some really esoteric welding process for some crazy alloy and and he'll just go back and forth and his ability to do that across all the different Technologies rockets and cars and everything else he does that's what really impresses me also the lack of burnout cuz he's been doing it at this incredible rate 16 hours a day for how long is whole life I think that's nuts I know and he still hungry for it and it is still taking on these new projects in new ideas and yeah you know what that pays seven seven years was a bad as like as much as I could take I know but it's just very confusing to me I just feel so stupid when I'm around him ultimate goal is to create some sort of a colony on Mars but he believes that this technology will continue to and to the point we will we will be leaving our solar system we will be making human trips into other solar systems into actual deep space yeah I mean hopefully that's at some point if we're going to survive you take a really long view you know the solar system is not going to last forever kids relaxed not in our lifetime they're so funny but but eventually we're going to have to find a new home if we're going to last forever and we all hoped it would last forever as a species right so at least most of us too so we got to get there but we got plenty of time and short-term important thing is at least getting out so not in just one place in the solar system because this you know something bad happened to this planet we got no backup and particularly if there is a natural situation supervolcano supervolcano tracked but someone like him to concentrate on solutions to some of the environmental problem we created for ourselves here that's really that's that was the thought behind Tesla I mean so so Tess was kind of like playing a save this planet and SpaceX is kind of plan B if you look at it that way weird to have a guy like that amongst us you know that we are working on so you just said that's one of the ways he does his time management this went away as he is able to do all these things just like he doesn't sit around and and and and Bs with you about like what's going on with the lesson or link the company was making the chips at so going to sign up for that I want to be an early adopter but once it does happen and it really does remarkably increase your your ability to interface with data that's the idea right said it ramps up the bandwidth and which people can access ideas and information is going to change the way we interface yeah being kind of extreme Have and Have Nots situation I get too far behind you are today I left behind you or if you have no internet access can you wear if you have no internet access right and then this would be kind of this could be like you're not another level of that yeah I'm worried I'm worried about that I got other things to keep me up at 9

Brett you know I'm on this all meat diet and I know you have a family a little bit later this weekend and I had ice cream Friday night or Saturday night I had all kinds I had Girl Scout cookies a bunch of Girl Scout cookies and dude I'm telling you Sunday my back was hurting really play my back was hurting everything was like my knee was hurting all this like inflammation is crazy puffy one day back 2 days cuz today is Tuesday so I ate carnivore Monday and Tuesday everything's normal Yet full on me for months whole month today to usually to be a small meal around noon after workout and then dinner. All right and no eggs no eggs and fish eggs fish meat meat to snow at all to pieces of chili mango the entire amount to Glorious of chili mango I legitimately feel guilty but with chili powder it's it's Mexican big-hitting Mexican commands right yeah so good so good I got the sweetness from the dried mangoes yeah but it's got the spiciness from the chili powder World carnivore month and I know quite a few people that have done it and that have had some serious results and serious results with autoimmune issues too and I have Vitiligo is an autoimmune disease that causes you to have these patches we don't have pigment a really and this month I have the best results that I've ever had with Vitiligo a battery in the end it comes and goes it comes and goes depending upon how well I'm taking care of myself but this this month it's about all the spots fill in and like a pretty rapid rate really people with eczema had a spectacular results with it now what if you were to suggest to someone who wouldn't eat just meat what percentage meet after going through this do you think he would I think the problem is not plants as much as the problem really is refined sugar carbohydrates and b******* that's what I think I think that's the problem is cheese counting that you can eat cheese you can eat cheese real animal product I think for most people the real problem is junk you know candy sugar the problem is cheese counting that you can eat cheese you can eat cheese real animal products for most people the real problem is junk you know Mandy sugar glorious bread

it has a difference and then you know if you want to go further and talk about the ghost that show up, so you have a picture of a golden I show you that I don't ever show you that Jamie I don't think you have a ghost ghost where are your house I apologize if I'm repeating myself I don't know if you are I don't remember but I got one of those cameras how do you open email the first time if it senses movement and alerts you and I open it up and there's my dog Bella just you get an alert on your phone and back at home there's a guy just staring in the camera so then I guess I'm saying that to my opening act who wasn't a ghost I get another alert and then this comes up oh yeah you can see it up there found out look at that bro that's delete Chris keep away from Tom something you might not know but that's that's a man with a wrench yeah or a man in a trench coat with an Uzi this is 10:00 at night the only people who were my wife and my daughter this is on the second floor there is no Shadow coming in the thing it's a ghost that's a legitimate that's not a person for sure wife is the only one in the house and you think that's a gun is in could be a clipboard maybe just a really annoying surveyor from the dead a few moments of your time what does large it looks more like a person can make an even bigger Jamie can you make his image larger I have a ghost in my house then we hear things yes it does seem it seems like you know the light is behind him right like yeah you got to keep the outside right edge of it is sort of highlighted like there's a light behind them doesn't know it is weird over here ready to sauce and bread so have you ever had an experience that you could say you think is probably a ghost cause that everybody in the house has had a little something cuz your household it's not old I would like Poltergeist ride is over an Indian burial ground you never know what look at this video in the same office from The Nest video what's going on what am I looking at here did the thing move again bro 100% flies around doing lupd lose that's a bug is probably a moth oh my God you're a little fruitcake you're crazy person that's a bug do you want to see me I would dare ever happen to me real quick would be all in two dots above all right that's how it goes Its Tinkerbell that's what it is my wife thought someone was standing right behind her she's doing the laundry photos my daughter and turned in this note that was all that's so f****** thank you Jamie let's watch this what's watches at home can last stop any bug that's a bug video artifacts because it's moving very fast from the screen there's a precedent to this you have a low-resolution camera that's in front of your desk security camera low-resolution doesn't take a lot of frames per second the reason why it's so elongated is because it's passing by his camera and a thing as taking multiple exposures while while it moves through there's a thing called sounds of who actually elects George Carlin it's pretty cool out of your desk yeah the there's a thing called Roswell rods see how it looks so long like that uh and Roswell rods there was this guy me and Eddie Bravo back in the smoke too much weed everyday days we were convinced that there were these things that were moving too fast for the human eye to see and the other is gelatinous jellyfish-like creature that shaped like a tube that's right above your cursor Jamie is right right there on that one sort of iconic image of the Roswell Rod had me convinced like oh my God documentary I think a couple of documentaries I think of you go to Roswell rods, Idaho website dedicated to Atia it is nothing but a video artifact once there's a show called one of those monster shows f****** one of those History Channel shows in front of this fireplace or find this campfire yeah one of them he was actually Lantern but whatever it was they set up these two cameras one of them was standard resolution and the other wasn't was HD captured multiple frames per second like many many men in France riots very for high-resolution and in that one you clearly see bugs clearly see in the other one that's low resolution and it doesn't capture as many frames per second all those images are stretched out and it looks like tubes so exact same place at the exact same time with two cans right next to each other very different images one of them is all stretched out from a low-resolution camera like your security camera the other one is high resolution you can see it clearly a but I guarantee you 1 million percent that is a f****** bug alright I'll buy that one see if you can find that I can convince but that other one we all have a nice old church theaters The Comedy Store belly room scares me sometimes yeah I'm taking people up there just stand here and tell me if you don't feel weird in the belly room or something the dressing area whenever you're back there by yourself that's a weird feeling so sketchy but yeah that's a really weird feeling 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Abercrombie stores get me kicked out of his home and his wife and I'll get out f*** you know I'm going to God damn, so he went to The Comedy Store to the thing he was working security at the store so we had keys to be at least I'm going to sleep on the stage I'm going to make it up here pitch black hello it's Carl I'm sleeping here if anybody's here wondering then here's cheers moving the clink clink clink clink is what the f*** is going on hello into the crowd into where the seats are and then another door shut and it's gone and he's laying on the ground in in the middle of the main room with a bunch of knocked over chairs something I grabbed his ankle and pulled him off the stage or or he did a lot of coke with Kennison he was right he was another one yeah what's a great store that is a great Sergeant he told it on stage one night at the store

Rebel Wilson and committed to losing weight she's lost a ton of weight and people are mad at her are they really are being big they like her being big because she's big and I'm big and everyone's big and it's okay to be big and I heard it's healthy to be big and so like people are criticizing her for losing weight as well a little longer and then you're turning on us well she became a role model for certain people I guess and maybe this weekend and then I fasted Sunday night till Monday I went to yoga Monday morning didn't eat till right before my first pot and I didn't gain any weight at all that's great moderation moderation eating like s*** over but what was interesting was the pains back pain knee pain inflammation in your body does not want to have to process all that stuff and I think that maybe the route for many people with a lot of causes of pain and discomfort is just an inflammation heavy diet I can get all of that out of your system your body can what go to work on the stuff has to go to work on you get all that s*** out of your system in your body doesn't experience inflammation from your food right and if you're eating food that like you know grass-fed beef mycase elk in oread Hampshire vegetables not bad for you I just did it to try to find what I just did it to try to find out what it's like to only eat meat right when you have no carbohydrates one of the most amazing there's no crashing you would eat and you don't feel any different after you ate other than the fact that you don't feel hungry right like you don't crash right there's no ups and downs and Peaks and valleys my energy levels were amazing really how quickly how quickly 93 this morning I was weighing about 2:05 before I started this diet I do believe there are certain people that have an adverse reaction to some plants that's an Elimination Diet is all about us are trying to find out what are the things that bother you yeah but for me what I did is I just took a lot of multivitamins I took a bunch of different vitamins and nutrients supplements on top of this carnivore diet some only eating meat but then I'm taking all the essential vitamins and amino acids and I'm also taking fish oil so I'm nutritional bases bases right but I'm not doing it with food I'm not doing it with plants I'm only eating grass-fed meat and then I'm at work or elk and then on top of that I'm taking it fat from like bacon like bacon I need it fat because your help in particular is very nearly like grass-fed beef I'm fine but it with things like elk you really do need some extra sources if you don't have fat what would you start to feel bad does not want a low fat diet with low carbohydrates is a thing called rabbit starvation if you ever heard of that people got that in Antarctica is Antarctica in the cold cold climates where they were shooting rabbits and eating rabbits near literally starving to death even though they're eating all these rabbits is a rabbit have no fat on them so they're only eating this lean protein Ryan with no fat at all and you start feeling like s*** different explorers have found that to that living in places and trying to eat only the other foods that they could Harvest off the land they're eating animals like they had to take in fat if you don't feel really bad so a little bit would you say maybe 80% this is what I would say try it straight out and I think you'll be amazed how good you feel now is nothing like what is it like if you extend that to 90 days or you know 365 days you're going to feel like s*** eventually going to start breaking your body down right I don't know but in my experience in 30 days was enormously beneficial did say something in your post about a explosive diarrhea and needs to have a new name diarrhea is not strong enough for what I was experiencing a real house like someone was tapping into like an oil like an oil well that's a carnivore Advocate he's been eating this way for 2 years 2 years and he seems to think that it has to do with the colon adjusting to the factory body doesn't have any dietary fiber so you're not taking in any rice or bread or anything is going to absorb the water so you're right who's going to right now he is yeah yeah he he sent me a text the other day saying just diarrhea is astounding adjusted and now it's not a problem at all really just steak or eggs sometimes like this morning it was a steak yesterday morning at eight six eggs right now just what those down lunch I don't usually two meals a day right and then the second meals usually steak or a beefsteak he's died things I always picture my family looking at me while they're eating pasta eating like do you feel like an outlier at dinner with your family or not I am your wife not like come on I have ice cream with us no lost good amount of weight and then it just kind of like plateaued and I feel like I'd like to be you know like 10 lb lighter and it's working out I'm doing all that stuff but I feel like it needs something to shock my system to go to a nothing will shock your system like this carnivore diet including your butthole but you will lose a lot of weight I lost I mean I lost it illegitimate 12 pounds of fat just that my face got thinner show me my face I would feel better now because I went to Disneyland it was December 23rd and my family was in town and we had eating like pigs at the right is loaded considerably bloated with food as well as night time in the nighttime podcast podcast it really helps if you going to try to stick to something that like a real solid schedule360 rocktober lent no booze no pot no nothing cuz it takes I mean even if you are like writing if you said I'm going to write every day for the month of February you know every day there's something to that like a routine yes or something really beneficial I'm going to write for 1/2 an hour everyday if you do that things done if you decide for the next 30 days starting right now countdown on your calendar 30 days from now you will f****** lose weight you'll feel amazing yeah I eat all the time it seems like an extreme thing that I would not be willing to maintain well that's the thing for the Sultan of so that's why I want balance I'm always searching for the right balance I think a great move is 6 days on 1 day off that's what I think Six Days on a rigid diet a Hyundai where you you look forward to eating bread and pasta drinking whatever you want and it'll have an ice cream and one day write balanced I think a great move is 6 days on 1 day off that's what I think Six Days on a rigid diet a Hyundai where you you look forward to eating bread and pasta drinking whatever you want and it'll have an ice cream and one day

so wait till it was on that all talk radio is that the guy who would was his name who would he would do all the voices who do all the characters know he was on his radio show Phil Hendrie so he would call up with these ridiculous he would say ridiculous yeah we like how can this guy be real if he would get so angry and other people would call in like that man is so ignorant and then he gateway's amazing around yeah I think he is I think you're right what does he do these days he have a radio show chances are other way can you get out I'm on SiriusXM right now that's different over-the-air Radia I know Columbus Ohio Denver even where they have a strong terrestrial radio thing station that's popular does talk about the show that's coming to our town it gets a sense of community that you don't have another things right and it's live happening over there this weekend a huge debt of gratitude is that he was sued by the FCC yeah I mean just a shitload of money the media company was a company that had his show they were find hundreds of thousands of dollars right for him for almost nothing during the Bush Administration they were going after him is it Howard Stern. Five things open the door for all of us all of us for me 100% where was it's a crime to where's it's a good plan for that most outrageous offences I got a podcast Infinity broadcast network alright Infinity dollars and $500,000 $600,000 December 18th 1992 and then August 12th 1993 $500,000 So within a year six months time even look 92 2004 time they got fired 1100000 dollars census where it's mostly language you know f*** man crazy I mean we think about this today in terms of like what we get away with him podcast total freedom freedom I think a lot of that was open the door was open because of Howard Stern was it say that it says a playing the piano with his penis recorded the crystal jewelry this wjkl JFK FM in Washington DC became the third Infinity station to are the Howard Stern Show in 1988 two months later and stole mail of New Jersey mistakenly tuner radio naked women in For an upcoming show she recorded the other f****** snitch Christmas party broadcast in December 16th that featured a man playing the piano with his penis choir singing about gay sex to the tune of white Christmas in women being hypnotized to achieve orgasm under the referral of her Senator this f****** crazy lady call the senator and Congressman stomel fire filed a complaint with transcripts and a tape of the program the FCC review the evidence and asked Infinity in October 1989 the nation has the material in quotes may have violated federal law by including indecent programming during daytime hours that's funny look at night time it's okay to get naughty karmazin argued that the term patently offensive in its new ruling was vague and the sexual references cited were no more offensive than daytime television shows Geraldo and Donohue which use similar terms without repercussions to or his wrist was later rejected that the FCC yeah so that they started fighting back then in 88 I would imagine that for terrestrial radio out of that still holds right look he's a different person do ya shouldn't have to do that old show you should do whatever he wants right that's who he is now right exactly now but I work for NPR do this life from here which is Prairie Home Companion and I do this thing on that show and they are said they have comedians on once in awhile and they have musician and they are really strict when when a comic is about to go out there he's told 20 times can't say it's like really really really strict and if you violated if you say the wrong thing they get a fine for every station that airs on throughout the network in the evening in the east coast it's so ridiculous it's and it's rated PG program onion on this is the way you want it cuz it's for kids and families and stuff like that but for the government to step in it's ridiculous you know I didn't do this for so long right I mean like before Howard Stern I realized there was no one there was no one like that there was Don Imus who was kind of controversial in some ways Stern who is it just a totally different animal yeah yeah he open the door for podcast for sure yeah all these outrageous people doing podcast he made the roadmap right yeah hundred percent will it show the other with you

Mike had my ghost up there before I was done talking about, goes to comes right up 100% guys got in trouble recently talk to the people I always asked if you have a ghost yeah there was a little boy I was in Oshkosh Oshkosh and there was an old theater and the guy who runs the theater so that you know we've had legendary that keep talking about there's like three go something and they're having a cocktail party upstairs in this like cocktail lounge off the balcony and his son the sky son ran into the balcony and he's talking to people because I got to go get him and he goes in there and the kids leaning over the balcony talking to the stage and having a conversation with someone he's like yeah no little kids is that little kids have not dulled all their senses with the pressures of the world and all the other information that we carry around as in all of our ideas of what's real and what's not real and that little kids are open and then they could see things flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers was talking about that with his son that his son is like I think it was flee the sun is like tuned into Spirits in a way that he was looking at it like me beads that these kids are not like maybe we all have that in a spoke with blunted right pressures and life in the lack of sleep and respond building relationships and in fear and everything right and and also like we Define how the world is Right week we get in our head of this these are the parameters for the world we Define how the world is Right week we get in our head of this do the parameters for the world

who's the really big you also have to think of how much money is invested in them right now and if they go bad it's a giant Financial does it like and go bad means like not make a billion dollars or lose money like Doctor Dolittle right probably going to lose money coming from a guy like Robert Downey jr. was amazing in the Avengers and that movie made fun of dollars amazing then he goes and does his Kids moving it really doesn't do well with those dolls movies in the theater that was probably the biggest financial disaster it back till like redo it and they're going to re-release it yeah so many people are making fun of it watches on people that didn't cover their hands up all sorts of bad stuff decade how we might go see that but it's so bad wow are you seeing all these people that have been in other things who are just not talkin Judi Dench and some other movie that came out recently that someone was saying was as bad as the room so really movie the row seating to find that movie at it without it saying this movie is so bad that it's good that you need to Auto completed the room is the worst movie ever a movie as bad as the room was Will Ferrell and John C Reilly in that when the new one right but wasn't sure Canadian would be so bad it Rivals the room yes from 4 days ago telling me you have to see this from 2,000 was that movie how are they going to redo cat like I already did I think they re edited it and then put if they re edit it everyone's going to know that sucks so bad they had re-edited never heard of that ever gets released elearn internet freaked out there like okay well we'll redo it yeah so much money redoing it Sonic the Hedgehog looks a little bit better better teeth or something heart and soul into the soundtrack and I haven't seen it a hundred million dollar box office lost no sometimes that was Jesus Christ that's headed for a hundred million dollar box office lost what the f****** s*** oh my God oh my God I just keep thinking about them all like being a craft services and

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what's exciting to me is that I think this is the first time in my life that I've ever seen so much communication on these subjects and I think so much recognition about the consequences of tribal toxic tribalism this tribal thinking that everyone seems to be engaged in on the right and on the left I mean in America you need to go no further than going back and forth from CNN to Fox News to say something's wrong here these supposed to be news outlets you have to come different narrative and that has nothing to do with what we're talking about gender politics and and radical left socialism and Marxism what you what you're seeing and universities though is a radical departure from what I always considered University's great for but I always considered universities great for is separating from your parents challenging belief systems and being engaged in the works of brilliant who you can compare all of their findings and their discoveries and and sit down and debate them in class and when I was a kid when I was in high school went to a very good High School Newton South High School in Newton Massachusetts and one of the things that they did is they put on a debate between a guy from the Moral Majority which was this right-wing Christian group that I'm not around anymore but there this was 1914 so 81 and Barney Frank who was the congressman is not one of the first openly gay guys in Congress and and you got to watch these two people in this Auditorium debate their points in this Moral Majority guy had this you know right wing Ronald Reagan sort of puke point of view and Barney Frank who's kind of crazy got busted in some male prostitute Scandal and the gay community and just Barney Frank took him apart was brilliant to watch but it was a real debate was fascinating and he got to see a mediocre mind versus a great mind and you got to see this little thing and then I was like wow this is and it was one of the things that's always attracted me about the the idea that two people with different viewpoints and get together in front of a neutral audience and these people can sort of decipher which way these people are thinking and why they think about is that isn't right with conflict that as that is the alternative is to separate as you pointed out into two camps that don't talk yes anything is the consequence of not talking is that you fight. That's the end game because the only way you can stop from fighting with other people is by negotiating with them one of the things that's also interesting a fair bit of your political preference is determined by your biological temperament is strongly influenced so if you're a creative type who's kind of disorderly then you're likely to be on the liberal-left end of the distribution and if you're a non creative type who's orderly and and especially if your orderly then you tend to be on the right wing in to fix and so and well why is that what why do those variations exist because some of the time your best strategy is to do what other people have done and shut the hell up and just do it run the algorithm right the pathways already laid clear it works stay in the damn right and move forward and when things are going right it's the right approach the problem is is that sometimes it's not the right approach because something is shifted it so something new has to emerge until then there's a bunch of people who are adapted to the new and those with the entrepreneurial and creative and that way because it's a very entrepreneurial it's a very entrepreneurial what would you call it geography and so they're going to lean to the left but they have to understand people have to understand that the left and the right need each other the Liberals and conservatives need each other liberal start companies conservatives run the and the problem with the concern they can only run in One Direction everything is stable like hire some conservatives cuz they'll maximize efficiency in the move down that track but if the track is no longer going in a good direction because something's changed the environment change while then you got to bring in the creative people and so we need each other and the only way that we can survive the fact that were different and the fact that we need each other is by continually talking if talk constantly it's like well how much of what we're doing should we preserve versus how much of what we're doing should we transform and the answer is we don't know because the environment keeps changing so what do we do about that we talked don't I was on a CBC Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview a couple of days ago and they took me to task I tweeted out this this invitation to the boys to fill out this program that I developed called future authoring and it helps people make a plan for life identity politics essentially we're going to we're going to be our ethnicity highly demonized individual examples of racism and Nazism Pepe the Frog feels good frog frog and so I tweeted out that my said the boys seek your fortune and rescue yourself from the underworld use code Pepe for future authoring so it's free for one week so they had to figure out what it meant picture of Michigan jfrog behold that out and said well look aren't you aren't you like appealing to the radical right and I said well know what I'm doing I said look at these people are attracted by the radical right although they satirists and juvenile satirists in graffiti types and they're playing a weird to have helped you guy who you are as an individual cuz that's the way out of the ideological trap so I can that's the way obviously what's the way out of tribalism first the way out of tribalism is not to never join the tribe you actually have to join a tribe as you mature right because what happens is for failure in infant then you have your parents two to make a relationship with but then when you move from your parents you have your tribe you have your group maybe it's the music you listen to It's the gang you hang around with whatever you have to socialized into the tribe you have to cuz otherwise you stay a dependent infant okay but now you're socialized into the tribe was that where it is like no the next thing to do is differentiate yourself from the tribe will still knowing how to behave within the tribe will that's the called individualism and that's I think with the West got right you're more than your you have to be a member of a group because otherwise you're not socialized not good for anyone man you have to have Team loyalty okay but that isn't where you should stop you should take the next step and become a fully developed individual and see the problem with being just a group member is that the group is the problem with conservatism the group is a fixed entity it has its rules and its regulations and if you remember that's all you are but the group can go badly wrong so the group needs individuals to keep the group alive and revivify. So you have to become an individual so you can revivify the group that's the called that's the call in the west to do heroism essentially to Noble way of living is to develop yourself past your group identity so that you can reconfigure the game when that becomes necessary and I think that there's a very influential line of developmental psychology get to the individual level that's the solution to solution to tribalism but you have to accept responsibility to do that in this is what your future authoring program is basically all about me and it's it's a wonderful program it's in along with his book rules and guidelines for life I think that's one of the things that a lot of young people are lacking is a structure to how to go about establishing who they are in the world is that what I've noticed when I've been speaking publicly say over the last year-and-a-half because there's a hole in our culture where there should be a discussion about maturity truth and responsibility no one's talking with your life simultaneously you're taking care of the broader Community Personal success breeds success because if you're going to establish name why not established like a really good and that's a good one good for you that you would be happy to be alive you find your life meaningful so you don't get all bitter and resentful and cruel and hostile an idiot logically addled in like murderous and genocide old is like none of that you think real hard how would you have to configure your life so that despite its suffering and the malevolence that's part of it that you would regarded as worthwhile that's up to you to develop the vision then put a plan into practice and so when I talk to people about this most of my audiences are young man it's probably about 6:35 more but that's about what it is right now the holes are dead silent you could hear a pin drop because nobody said so clearly for like fifty years that almost all the meaning that you will need to get you through the hard times of your life is going to be a consequence of adopting responsibility not of Rights and impulsive action impulsive Freedom like fine rights yeah Freedom no problem even freedom to do impulsive things fine but that isn't where you go Find the meaning that keeps you sustained through the storms of life that's going to be you take care of yourself you take care of your intimate partner to take care of your damn family you don't run off to take care of your community you rescue the wisdom from the past you stand up straight and you be courageous despite the fact that life is tragic and painted by malevolent like that's the ancient wisdom that's what that is Birdman partner you take care of your damn family you don't run off to take care of your community you rescue the wisdom from the past you stand up straight and you be courageous despite the fact that life is tragic and tainted by malevolent like that's the ancient wisdom that's what that is

actually there's a set of books that let ladies out perfectly read Dostoyevsky wrote a book called the possessed or the devils and it's a it's a description of the initial breakdown of the Orthodox Christian Society in in Russia in the late 1800 and the rise of radical socialist ideas so it's sort of like the prodromal to the Russian Revolution to brilliant brilliant book and the personalities that are involved and then if you read after that Gulag archipelago where he details what he just doesn't that book is quite remarkable so he said looked over tens of millions of people killed from 1919 to 1959 in the Soviet Union and it as a consequence of internal repression and it's so Dreadful that words can't do it justice mean it's absolutely Dreadful what happened in the Soviet Union just for starters 6 million ukrainians died because of starvation all the food that the collective Farmers newly collectivized Farmers had produced which wasn't very much by the way was taken from them and brought to the city's so the farmer starve to death some children and all your grain had been shipped off to the cities and you thought well I'm not going to have my children starve to death in the field and I'm going to go on my hands and knees and I'm going to pick up the grains that are left over that the Harvesters didn't count get and I'm going to feed those to my kids punishable by death you were supposed to hand in those extra bits of green so that they could be shipped to the city as well that was just the beginning of the fun in the Soviet Union and what sort of medicine did was say look this wasn't a consequence of the Marxist system gone wrong this was a consequence of the Mark's assistant it was an inevitable consequence of the axioms of the Marxist system and any delays that out and it's you got it right and what is the price but what is the connection how much tyranny you have to impose in order to produce something like equality of outcome either the in Thomas Howells talked about this little bit what the people who are equality of outcome don't understand is that you have to cede so much power to the authorities to the government in order to ensure equality of outcome that a tyranny is inevitable and that's right this is also a big technical problem is like well what measure of outcome you know there's lots of outcomes like how happy are you how much pain are you in how healthy are you how much money do you have how much opportunity for movement forward do you have what's the width of your Social connections like what's the quality of your friendships do you have exposure to art and literature like you know you can multiply the number of dimensions of a valuation between people innumerable there's just all sorts of ways to classify people you going to get the equality of outcome on every one of those measures is like everyone going to have to be equally happy in the relationship and if not why not what why why stop with economic why stop with pay there's no place to stop so and that's it then that's a huge technical problem because there is no place to stop there will be no stopping like nobody else nobody can have anything that everyone else doesn't have it that's the ultimate outcome of equality of outcome what you think about what that would mean it's terrible what instantly you think do it well there's nothing but a tyrannical system couldn't post that have you ever debated in Marshall supporter of your debated someone who is pro equality of outcome know they don't debate me supposed to be friendlier I suppose but no I haven't because people don't do it they don't ask me to do it but what is it about that idea or that ideology about Marxism that's so attractive to Young students and to University Park Dennis upset that would be wise the left-wing attractive will the left-wing is necessary because inequality does spiral out of control and so there has to be a political voice for the dispossessed and you don't want people to stack up at zero and where they can't play the game at all it's a bad idea not only do you not if people stack up at zero they're too poor to get ahead at all let's say there to Port open a bank account there too poor to buy enough food like they're stuck at 0 and they can't get out of it it's a really bad seeing because that's a lot of suffering and that's not so good second of all well at least in principle a lot of those people might be what might have something to offer the world or their children might and you want to open up Avenues of opportunity to them so that they can succeed but so that everyone else can benefit from their success so and then the next thing is well if the inequality gets out of hand too much then the whole society starts to destabilize because if you get enough people stacked up a 0 special young man enough young men stocked up at zero they think the hell with it will just flip the whole board over and it'll settle in a new configuration and maybe we won't be stuck at 0 in the new configuration so it's foments revolutionary thinking who has lots of reasons to be concerned about inequality until you need a voice on the left to say look we got to parameterize the the tendency towards inequality so that it doesn't destabilize the entire Society so that it's everybody has an opportunity to advance right you need that chemical reason for the necessity of the left and then I think its attractive because well because young people can be resentful part because they're at the bottom of the Heap so to speak they're not cuz they're young like look you want to be you want to be pouring 18 you want to be rich and 80 which you going to choose doors are more in the United States are old but why is that well it's like you've had a lot more time to make money how would that be that's the explanation so that's one of the big drivers of inequalities just simply age but it's not obvious that the old rich people have an advantage over the Young starting out people so so anyways but anyhow maybe you're resentful and irritated cuz you're young and you still at the bottom of the people of your race or ethnicity or gender at least you think it is so you say well I want to make things fair and then that's also driven by some real compassion because nobody really likes that the consequences of radical inequality like nobody likes the fact that homeless people exist and have to go to the emergency Ward you know what to get treated and they don't have medical coverage and they have to live in tents on the street and so if you have some compassion then you think while we go to do more for the poor and dispossessed so I hey that's that's an understandable sentiment but the problem is is that the people but the problem is is that it's that that that desire to help is contaminated by resentment an idiot logical certainty and then also buy something that George Orwell pointed out so nicely in his book the typical middle-class socialist this was his diagnosis and he was a socialist by the way his diagnosis was the typical middle-class intellectual socialist doesn't like the poor they don't have anything to do with the poor they're contemptuous of the poor but they hate the rich and I think it's even more devious than that because I think who they hate are the successful some of the successful rich but really who they hate is too successful it's it's like Cain and Abel it's the retelling of Cain and Abel are some positive motivation for being engaged on the left and there's a lot of negative motivations as well and the people who are really driven by the radical left my resentment and hatred as far as I'm concerned let's look at both extremes so back to the idea of the of the ideological and verbal territory I said with Bill C 16 that I wouldn't speak the language of the radical leftist because I don't think that that language should Define the game but let's say it does so here's the game the world is a battleground of groups and they're battling for power that's it that's the game some of them win and they oppress those who don't with so that's how we're going to view the world okay now the left is say okay well here's the oppressed people the oppressors the patriarchy type patriarchal types they should be ashamed of themselves and give up some power the right-wingers the radical right Wingers look at that new say oh I see so the game is ethnic wear white males we're not going to lose that's the right wing version of identity pause it's like screw you if we're going to divide into groups before going to divided into tribes and I'm in my tribe I'm not going to get all guilty and lose I'm going to get all cruel and wind and that's like men you think while there's people in the middle of their kind of looking back and forth which side of the identity politics Spectrum I might get a fallen do I want to go with the do I want to go do I want to be driven primarily by compassion and I'm am I going to accept guilt for my historic privilege that's one possibility and then I'm the oppressor I'm a member of the oppressor group or am I going to say uno to hell with that I'm just going to play the wind well then I'm going to go to the right it's like why my sense is how about we don't play either those games and the reason we shouldn't play the mist or the Soviets play the left-wing game and my killed who knows how many tens of millions of people you can't even counted accurately the estimates range from 20 to 100 million was a pretty big are Bart and that in the modest maybe a hundred million Play 60 million so okay that didn't work out so well then there's the Nazis like they played ethnic identity politics and racial superiority like what we want to play that game see what I've been trying to do really what I've been trying to do for the last 30 years to say look there's heavy Temptations to play those sorts of games but that's not the only game in town too much better game to play individual so I can get your act together stand up in the world makes love yourself stay away from the theological oversimplifications set your house in order that's rule 6 in the in the Guinness book so I have a book rule in there says that your house in perfect order before you criticize the world and it's very dark chapter about the motivations of the Columbine High School killers and this other guy named Carl panzram who is a serial rapist in arsonist in murderer and he wrote an autobiography and why they did what they did their resentful to the core bitter bitter terrible and well I'm suggesting that people stay away from that resentment resentfulness and bitterness even though life is hard and it and is malevolence in the world like yeah you can you can tell a story where everyone's a victim because we all. We all get sick and and and and things happen to us that are bitter and terrible betrayal deceit lies like people hurt us on purpose of life malevolence as well as everyone's a victim you can tell that story the problem is if you tell that story you start to act it out you make all of that worse that's the problem and it's so this is why I partly I got attracted to Christian imagery at least in part because there's an ID in Christianity that you should pick up your goddamn cross and like walk up the hill and that's dramatically that's correct that's the right answer they're in a fair bit of it's going to be unjust what you going to do about it except it voluntarily and try to transform as a consequence that's the right answer the right answer because the rest of it is tribalism and we're too technologically powerful to get old tribal again

so Men's Health Magazine just haven't read this article called new year new dick with Marky Mark Wahlberg on the cover at appropriate fisticuffs so they have everything that a guy could do to enhance performance or increases as your Decker increase blood flow or increase orgasm quality or they just want to find out where everything from like freaking gas station dick pills to which by the way those things do not have in them what they say they have in them what do you think they have the so they see how they say like epimedium and you're welcome long Jack and Ryan this looks like my head was going to explode I mean it's it's like drinking 10 cups of coffee yeah we have a friend of ours who predicted accurately that Jon Jones was taking those things when he pissed hot he was like those things have everything in them and he goes I can't he's taking dick pills that actually pretty entertaining to read ounces of ingredients did you actually get it tested no no we went to all these Labs it wouldn't let us actually test but apparently the FDA has tested them if you go to fda.gov website they have Like These Warnings out about the actual words we took that they had warnings about and tested them in the head in the morning fill completely screwed up like all day morning it's like you just mainlining coffee so they did that they did on that have you heard of this like Acoustic sound wave therapy for your deck I'm serious my balls might I got his went everywhere cuz I don't really know what they were what they were going to do and I wanted I wanted it all all Shields activated and lay down and and so my legs are split I'm on this exam room table and this gal comes in and she's got like this giant wand attached to a machine and they do this for women too by the way they feel like a condom on the end of it and then she just basically goes to town for like 20 minutes like a jackhammer around 20 minutes or supposedly supposedly breaks open old blood vessels and builds new blood vessels and once the numbing cream wears off your supposed to perform a lot better and then they combine this y'all we're we're talking about like with your shoulder if you inject it you should do like Electro stammer vibration or something to to get the injection deeper into the tissue thought I don't know why I thought they put the needle just like right in the pee hole which it to me made sense but out but doesn't really I mean you want it natural to actually actually go like up where the dick attached is like the tissue at the top I do to nerve blocks on either side and in the PRP and later on like a couple months and you literally just get boners all the time like all night long for like a month so the acoustic sound therapy supposed to be breaking up blood vessel rakes open old looks like at like an old hunched over man then all the sudden bigger it looks like a bodybuilding everything iced tea bodybuilding so is that horrible sport do you think it's real do you think that's really doing work for me at work for me in the gas station dick pills into the acoustic sound wave therapy so I went down to Florida and Florida I don't know what it I think it's cuz all the old people live in Florida Fort Lauderdale the stem-cell thing was that the u.s. stem cell clinic in Florida and I went in there and they extract all the fat for me that they took the fat on my back and what they do is they they have is called an enzymatic process where they use something that breaks down the collagen in the fat and then they have the stem cells that get separated from the fat and apparently it's very very high in these angiogenic like like vascular or vessel building compounds and so then you get that re-injected Italian The Miz on the MSC switch are supposedly the very good ones did it to inject in so I injected those or I had it a doctor info cancel a shipment of Spokane on ice and they show up at my house at like 7 a.m. right cuz he got to get them delivered same day and then I have my appointment at the doctor at 9 a.m. and I went to the doctor and there is like deja vu from Florida where I can go and do that do the numbing the crazy pictures in the magazines infrared light of my balls and this big thing called the Juve light that they had me standing in front of every day like a Jack and he injected these these stem cells from my fat after they grown for like several for in this case I think they were down there for like 8 weeks but I mean they can do same-day injection but for me I didn't have enough at this for me is right in the middle of irate professionally and also course racing so I'm just like lean as hell if I go in there so they could they could barely get enough fast they too grown for a longer. Of time. Times they can inject same day so I went into Spokane at this clinic in Spokane Valley new integrative Clinic like this Osteopathic Medical Clinic with all these nice receptionist when you walk in the door and this this this doctor who he's done stem cell injections before but never actually injected into someone's dick so it's kind of like the do you have to explain to him what areas you're supposed to eat it and I think he actually talked beforehand to make sure that they were on that on the same page, FlyAway back down to Florida this is like all black and blue or the injector cleaner was yeah it could have gotten infected I could have had MRSA and I would not wish MRSA on your dick 91.1 I got it this was at though at The Wildflower Triathlon like coming back my flight got delayed and I was covering all these kids like an off-road Triathlon and had all these scrapes and wounds and I think I think my layover was in Vegas I don't remember where but I had to check in the hotel if I got too late and I slept in this hotel room that I swear like there must have been something on the bed cuz it's been a few days like they was all you don't get all nasty and Cakey and then it was eating a whole I wrote a whole blog post about this on my website and that you can buy I'm on it as soon as soon as they come back in the door I died having to go into the shower upstairs and defense open Roth hunt yet they have a bunch of different wipes and stuff for people that trained a shower yeah you got to be careful it is like the stories like these for Steve's that apparently traveled around the world and they would Rob Holmes and and they never got sick like that's basically the story I'm sure this was this was some board table at a multi-level marketing essential oils complete somebody came up with this story could be true I don't know but the dick that was an interesting but it did I think from what I can tell looking in the mirror Coptic I'm pretty sure how much so happens I like maybe that much later and like enough to tell and my Russians got bigger and I orgasmed a lot better for how long they'd there still like that and I was doing the the hundred reps in 5 minutes snatch test with it with a one-and-a-half food and I felt something just go I was at 80 and I felt something go in my back and I got some cells injected all up and down my ql my multifidus my erector spinae into my soul ass but then they also sent them to me to my house and I did that same that sell the stuff that's rich in the mesenchymal stem cells into the bloodstream so I did a push IV into the bloodstream that's the one that you would have to go out of the country to Jen normally you're not supposed to do that like that technically not legal for someone to inject with your own stem cells into your bloodstream but if you get your stem cells extracted and they're stored and they send them to you you can technically inject them if you do it yourself or you like have a friend who's a nurse or whatever we we caught it on video for Men's Health films so they'll publish a video some point but I was super nervous cuz like a few thousand dollars worth of stem cells that I'm trying to hit the vein and make sure that they go in the right way and then inject it's a very very small amount I was kind of nervous I do a lot of that I don't think that's the worst photo the worst one of them and it's like flesh eating bacteria but it's like a weird pressure from dry needling this is like that accept pain right like it's both the pain and the price was horrible horrible like a small golf balls instaff he had open holes we could see his muscle structure under his armpit was horrific gosh he would any he never really recovered he wanted he died he died young from that who knows what he died from but look at the whole I think I still have it on my gosh he didn't read it quickly now for a I don't know if it was just really aggressive but real common thing in gyms and what you get it it stays with you like I said he's your bloodstream like I still like I have an essential oil diffuser on my desk and I put thieves in everyday and I just diffuse essential oils infrared light and this is that and they've done these studies on testicular and sperm production and they found that there's a wavelength that's like 600 800 nanometers wavelength of light that if you expose the testicles to that 452 20 minutes a day specialist concept of photo bio modulation so I originally got into this whole photo bio modulation thing in this company do I block people just send me these weird things to my doorstep to try and they sent me this like nasal Pro they put up your nose and it's got like that helmet on it you could you can look it up Jamie if you want to call the violet light and it produces this light that supposedly activates a part of your medic say I like your electron transport chain in mitochondria and is a part of that called the cytochrome C oxidase and apparently activates more activity in the cytochrome C oxidase you produce more ATP in General tissue could you have it on your head and they were using this in dementia and Alzheimer's patients but it turns out it's almost like a like a nootropic for your head yes that's me at my desk back back when I was a young Chinese woman Colts antenna and what's it was I think it was NPR it was out of Radiolab or Taylor science one of them but I think they might be ready like they did a study on light or a or a story on like this tend to 40 hertz frequency photobiomodulation putting this thing of the probe in my ear and you're not even supposed to use it too much because it produces so much ATP that if you amp Up Cellular activity in neural tissue too much you produce too many reactive oxygen species like that's a byproduct of cellular metabolism it just like if you eat too much you produce a lot of byproduct of making energy and that's why it's one of the reasons why fasting is good for you send contact with this you won't use it all the time cuz you get too much activity you produce too many free radicals are too many reactive oxygen species but every other day use it so in this is for my head and it ended this like couple years ago the same thing every time I wake up nitric oxide but if you do it on your testicle specifically the cell that works on his the latex cells in the testes which responsible for producing testosterone so you're basically stimulating the leydig cells in the testes the same way that you stimulate like neural tissue using this one for your head so I had success with the thing for my head so I tried this one for the balls in the deck and what I did was I would just Jack my pants down for 5 to 20 minutes a day while using my Essential Oils you actually get more blood flow I mean I didn't do a control study to pull my pants down and standing there for 20 minutes. That without the light on I should I should do that at some point maybe it's just like the whole units like and supposedly going combat-style supposed to be good for your dick to you obviously I'm not naked but normally I would I would I would be nude and yeah ready better size better orgasms men like like all this stuff seemed to have a so all this time so I would not repeat

remind me of anybody right away every punchlines promises all of it seems like now that's recognizable and relatable but unique right exactly how everybody does it this is the only art form that is a global worldwide artfulness enjoyed by everybody it's documented how they write songs it's. Rented how you learn to play music you can go to school for it you know you could take classes online when your comic man you got to kind of figure it out on your own and I think we would all been a I'm some sort of documentation and particularly for the people coming up the girls and guys coming up that are learning how to do stand-up now would benefit tremendously from like a guy like you breaking down how you do it how you started what's different now something about doing a series on YouTube like a podcast do it like a podcast but call it like the comedy creation series buddy has many people that can tell me how you started how old when when did you start the what year was it was your first club and just break down how you do it Jesus Trejo came in I love him I love him and he's such a unique story so different you know his parents coming from Mexico he's got to care for them he goes down to Mexico where there's like this new scene coming up of Spanish-speaking comedian I mean that story you put that one and then you talk to Ryan Hamilton two totally different planets yep all in the same form yep I would be great to watch f*** it would be amazing what the world needs to know how these f****** people do these things like this if if you don't know anybody that can sit down and talk to you about how they do it yeah he takes too long to figure it out I'll completely completely in Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh now I know that's a good thing I mean when Seinfeld put out the documentary like people still listen to watch comedian Mike young Comics because there's very few roadmaps out there because very few glimpses into how someone is doing it and how they're working you know there's been other stuff where people will show themselves on stage and they're just backstage no drinking or just going about their day like a road doc kind of a thing but not very few about process if you ya process and you know how much you've adjusted what do you do differently now what do you think about your old stuff what would you do differently and start over again yeah it's good stuff it doesn't have a class you can take no well they have classes you know those classes are good for getting you on stage they're good for that has very few classes are taught by legit, right right and maybe some of them out there that I'm not aware of yeah every class that I've ever seen is Ben Taub buy scrubs right

call me homophobic because I said I had an old tweets from 2012 one of them from 2012 said call me romantic but I love it when I see gay couples that are so comfortable that they can kiss and Pop I sold it come on a gay couple makeout I think that was what it was me eight f****** years ago it's hard to remember but that's like you might as well as well hate gay people yeah you didn't you like you think it's nice that they can kiss openly and publicly that they saw it says there's no logical but that's the thing is like you're arguing with someone who's there it's like the idea that if you leave Islam if you you could be killed Ryan right this is what happens to religious thinking religious crazed Audiology adherence to the Dogma no matter what that would allow someone to think that I could be homophobic by saying that I think it's great when gay guys are so comfortable they kiss in public, it's because I know you are in your mind they think they did this incredible mind-reading thing they don't care about reality you're a bigot then they can use anything and everything against you including pro-gay tweets a project that logical left-leaning people read that n**** what the f*** they do and they go come on man and you know it's been positive for me in a lot of ways that they're so over-the-top that you know I got gay friends go did I know you're homophobic I'm like I don't know either but they know maybe this is why they always turn most of them people from the left to question the stuff they really do cuz I don't text it from the right yeah especially if you look like you should be on the right and you're on the left which I definitely do right you know it's like there's you mean you could try to figure it out but I think it all boils down to it he rents adherence strict adherence and compliance dogma and if you don't if you're not willing to comply 100% with the ideology they will attack you said you just like Martina Navratilova but that's why I think left and right is no longer helpful I know I think I think it's about that's why they're all these weird Alliance is going on that we know I did this event with Peter boghossian James Lindsay and we were given these talks at this event in London staying there at lunch and I was like him the head of the atheist Evangelical Christian Pastor from America I never thought they were people have no fighting or faith and left right and it's like but we all believe in Liberty all care about Freedom individual Freedom. The new fault line it not next against right if people believe in in Liberty for the individual peebly want more authority to control you in that that's the real conflict well if the right really wanted to bring more people over what they would do is establish like universally across-the-board and appreciation for gay people appreciation for gay marriage and appreciation for the need to taking poppers communities and bring them up an appreciation for welfare and appreciation for you know raising the minimum wage has started a few things like that good Lord the amount of people that would jump off that f****** ship that's sinking ship of liberal ideas yeah because it's just it's infested with rats it's infested with rats that are chewing the hole in the very Hollow the ship that happened in the UK what is quite conservative government out of your life yeah it should be maybe that's what they need to do but I can definitely if you if you support the left you need to try and dissuade the Democrats and the and the Labour party from coming work because they alienate all of that made you a third party country previously historically is that when someone charismatic came along that's an independent they really just take votes away from the Democrats yet so you took votes away from the Republican and that's why Bill Clinton gotten off a Herbert Walker Bush was in his first term so we only did one term and then Bill Clinton one and Herbert Walker Bush was going for real NY run but he one rather is cuz Ross Perot who is this eccentric billionaire do you remember him and bought an entire half hour of prime-time Television to show people how they're getting f***** by the Federal Reserve and taxes and is explained Bravo Department of pretty sure I remember you worried about the long ago and Bernie Sanders giant different there's some it alot of it is people are concerned with abortion rights as a giant one and people are concerned with a republican putting someone in the Supreme Court that is going to limit a woman's right to choose that's so if you get to a position where you are Republican much have to be pro-life right if you want want the group to the sticking point is that you're killing a baby I'll be like Electro Hemlock and I think it will just absolutely not work but he is they don't see that how did I not see it because they're full of s*** normal they're not they're not acting normal seemed genuine there's certain aspects of people that it's hard to tell but there's some people just don't seem genuine and political people in particular like when people are running for political office that's when that s*** really stands out as over and over and over again you see them doing the speeches and over and over and over again you see them talking about things and some people can sense it and some people can't but they can't tell when you're a liar you can't tell other people see you right because you're lying like I know a guy I'm going to be nice here never he's gay as f*** but he doesn't think everybody knows it he's some point right he's gay or everyone that I know knows he's gay we all wish you know but he's got a family wife and kids were all speculating sexual I'm pretty sure I mean if I had a bad I'm f****** pushing all my chips because of that he acts in this really strange because he's living this tile live a life he acting strange when I don't think he realizes that people know and you think a lot of these people going into politics a lot of that kind of sociopathic 10000 people if you're talkin to 10,000 people about the way we can come together as a country and we can take America back yeah there's no connected I always put that down to them having to follow up on T line or the sloganizer you know that drink slogans if someone's awoke politician unless that's who they really are whenever he sort of brings people into no mind to the line by folks is on Arc and folks in there cuz it means that you start thinking Democrat is woke and we know it just never I need by the poverty line in Mobility for people that are not social justice issues yeah not nonsense

and that's why if you are truly left-leaning and if you truly care about getting a left-leaning government in power you need to make it back class again because this is one of the reasons Tanya I'm going to have to be punished and Rich you know because it is so rich these people have real problems about being represented by the skin color of site like some poor working-class mother who can't afford anything isn't going to care that that Hillary Clinton's in the White House represented that's great this stuff is tokenism when what what you should be doing so directing in a quality in a big problem both here and in the UK left movement with brexit cleaning if you're a man if you correct someone and they're incorrect pin your a man does it become a religious War we in a holy war for wokeness the gender in which they are dead dozen you piece of s*** pretty f***** it up. I've just written a book as her and the children right because of that have you seen this thing you've seen this is the work children's books right yes I made a joke about one feminist baby to get a bullhorn feminist baby bullhorn is a feminist need a bullhorn what is a feminist why she wearing f****** makeup when she's a baby that's just rude zat yeah that's rude cuz that's the goddamn patriarchy at socializing young babies to be sexy and they probably won't pull them out when people come over the house I mean one of the big selling books with good night stories for Rebel girls which like each chapters about made a feminist icon that name that young kids C is for consent stop playing the radio a little girl who gave zerofucks right I thought I got to Tanya and she trying to hit it with my first little book of intersectional activism right get it right she took the kids like that just sociology which is fun tornado make sure it doesn't get young maybe I don't know if there is a solution I think there are patterns that always exist and religions pop up like why Christianity why Mormonism why Islam why you know what causes these patterns his ideological patterns what causes them what causes them to take hold what causes them to their followers become rabid I don't know what it is but they exist and they exist they have existed throughout history there's literally hundreds of them it didn't need for purpose is it a need to feel that you are the one that you know the truth it's certainly there's instincts that we all have to be a part of a group and to be accepted as a part of a group and one of the ways that you show that you're part of that group is by rigidly adhering to the doctrine is it needs for purpose is it a need to feel that you are the one petunia trees it certainly there's instincts that we all have to be a part of a group and to be accepted as a part of a group and one of the ways that you show that you're part of that group is by rigidly adhering to the doctrine

woke yeah it's just the religion it's their they're apart of the religion and we really should start referring to it as a religion we should but then that will be complete is that really effective ice challenge is not going to get people's backs up is not going to give it everything you say about people's backs up but I think at least it'll make people understand that there are some fundamental patterns and human behavior that have existed from the beginning of time people like structure and they like they like knowing where the rules are because life in itself is too open-ended there's too much existential angst has too many confusing questions that can't be answered there's so much going on in life it's if you have a very rigid ideology whether it is about a holy Creator or whether it's about the fundamental aspects of society that are unfair need to be rallied against whether it's woke ideology or whether it's fill-in-the-blank whatever other ideology I just wish I could talk to the mall but they refused to talk to me husband online you can talk to the ones that are thinking maybe this is b******* and some of them do think it's b******* I know some of them that have broken free yeah I know some former woke people that have woken up Aya but I also got all messages from people saying I really like the jokes to tell him that I will never retweet them that to ya honest about that skepticism about the whole thing may think that's coming I think I think is even though thing people are being very rabid I think more people are going what in the f*** they are happy they are and it's the language policing to get so annoying words are not the problem folks it's actual Prejudice that's a problem cuz you know I mean whatever it is whatever it is it's we've got this issue with telling other people do you have got this issue with wanting people to comply with the standards of behavior that we are adhering to terrified when you get into a conversation with someone from the movement it's like that it's never crossed that mind that they could be wrong.. Realm of existence even possibly think for a second maybe a little bit wrong and that to me is a horrible how you challenge. You can't just like you can't challenge someone who's a believer in the Westboro Baptist yeah she really does want to walk around those godhatesfags but I find that really if he was truly pure I would have said it would have kept him alive and he was probably thinking about homos who knows hateful hateful funeral and these guys are standing in front of the building where you're having a service and they're saying the reason why your son dies cuz there's a bunch of people out there that are in love with other men having sex with men and so this is the reason why they going to hold up these giant placards is horrible setting when you see that sort of thing but then when I get to decide to go people allowed to protest right it's like everything else in human nature to messy and those woke people need to understand that's messy to yeah life is messy you can't you can't get 100% compliance from people and if you want that you're a bully you know you're being mean you can't they're not going to do it and you're not right you're not right it's best you definitely not right if you're not willing to debate people on this if you're right that's why Obama was saying was it when you said that people aren't perfect thing to say that was the answer is that their parents didn't have I see signs though that the younger generation to generation Zed was the you'd say something like that I'll reacting against the millennial generation in this Biz there is. Probably where the hoop sizes socialism is great but I'd like you to work Mike yeah no ultimately the realities of Life are show me a young man who is not a liberal and I'll show you a man with no Heart Right show me an old man who's not conservative and I'll show you a man with no brain yet for Bernie Sanders bills and Andrea and they see that there's a lot of people that don't want to work hard and there's a they make excuses for things when the realities has their own behavior that's been holding them back and there is so many realities that are uncomfortable that we have to address as we get older in life when we realize how many people falling into these classical Pitfall that we thought we knew better don't want to work hard and then they make excuses for things when the realities has their own behavior that's been holding them back and there is so many realities that are uncomfortable that we have to address as we get older in life when we realize how many people falling into these classical pitfalls and your parents are told us about what we thought we knew better

launch is afterbirth Johnson selection went about fun with that was an explosion of Rage I didn't see that it is weird to me that he looks like Trump unless I ignore version of trump I think he's he's not the same I've never voted for that his party wear your country over here at Forum attention to the queen in the island oh my God she turned England you can't come in there and take over cuz if you did that wake you up about political situation with brexit bad brexit bad post right after the vote that the number one reason why people go to brexit if they wanted the lowest pick up in that country to be made within that country which strikes me as a very reasonable proposition right if you if you are Democrat you want to be up to vote at the people in power you can vote out of your accounts in Brussels you can't do it that's the principal pre-war nostalgic or white contradicted is a complete lie and it just experienced what a narrow side by the way if you left wing and your support in the EU which is neoliberal trading block that is really pro-corporate ruthlessly so then I don't know how you can even call yourself left so what is the anger in the streets in England it's because of the press so we had six months of debate on the brexit issue before people voted already knew what they were voting for the new what these issues were about spending and saying if you vote leave you a racist and if you write to reminder the you're one of the good guys that was an hour to that was spending from the stock and people would you know what it did it did that thing of generation resentment step out that's logical and objectives and say hey you can you can look at this a different way but these voices got drowned out by the artists will everything still sound all the time right and I'm not denying that there was some racist in the UK whatever but there's such a minority and when you call me to class constantly saying to you or you or you poor working-class to your scum you're racist you hate it or whatever then there was a big backlash the Trump election but I think the one thing that I think is comfortable it's at the premise right if you go all these sort of work actress to say that they believe that we live in is fascist country and that they believed it flashes would vote for Trump and then when Trump wins a used as evidence for the premise that they set up right now that's why they double down because I said what he wants because I said what he wants it if we were right all along with wasn't right so it's doubling down on the same b******* and I'm guaranteeing Trump another term by doing so by the way

your unfailing do people know that people know yep that's it to Tiana so this is I should have chosen an easier name like that no one can take to Tonia to Tanya because she's named after the queen of the fairies in Midsummer Night's Dream real name do you have an issue with people now knowing that Tatiana or Titania Titania you know well I got can't remember how I found out about you on Twitter but just laughing really hard at something that you wrote that was so close you you do such a good job of like blurring the line between outrageously woke and satire yeah it's not think of trying to do our who's the girl go is a composite four different women human medical intersectionalist selfless and Brave by my boy how to not pretty scared I have you know I can't do that kind of psychosis isn't it well she's so big now you have 420,000 followers its way except in very quickly is read people getting upset at you like that is ridiculous you think that that's why Trump was winning and Riot Trump supporters and stuff and I can claim as well yeah so shut the people still think she's really like even after all this time you're close enough there's plenty of people and I'll point you do a few of them that follow I follow some people wrote just bookmark them so don't don't know that I follow them yeah and it just some of them are so goddamn f****** crazy and yet I keep getting told this is like a straw Mandy people that really exist Rosanna Arquette yeah I think so she was being white and then that was I think it was I just got to wait and put in butt lightning miso to to a point that it's it's a cult-like behavior it's like it's it's it's like I think that the basic principles we know standing up against racism sexism in the phobia all that stuff is great yes I think I woke movement isn't that it's a kind of weird coltish pseudo-religious thing that is beyond the so that you no longer allowed to make mistakes you can't be redeemed Sun people I've loved you know it's a bad thing and that's why we get this kind of counterculture stuff and I guess that's why I wanted around on eggshells worried about being misinterpreted or even worried about f****** up and down normal human conversation which is how we're supposed to communicate how we normally communicate yeah it just comes and goes yeah I know but when you it's written down then it becomes something different but it's more than that because I'll give you an example to the editor of a magazine in the UK and a vegan freelance journalist email Tim Sadler to do the thing about vegans and he replied to make some joke about yeah you can do some real force feed them meet each other and stupid flipping thing saying I was really offended by that can we talk about it I don't even appropriate for you to email free. Jenny she's screenshot the thing put it on Twitter made you think of it and he had to step down so I think that's the difference is where is like saying some of that cooling out a mistake according to maps that you perceive to be bad that's all well and good but when you're using it to advertise how virtuous you are and how you you're able to take someone down for the mistake that they made. Troubles me cuz then it's no longer about radio well I think we were dealing with when when when you're talking about woke culture and I love that you made this comparison to radical religious cuz I think they're the same patterns I think human beings have patterns that they follow and you could say that you're not religious but you follow these extremely rigid ideology that don't allow for any variation whatsoever you think they forced 100% compliance and if you're not one Bank compliance and if you're not one hundred percent in compliant they will attack you and you can't be woken up one of things you find a religion is people will especially in the more radical dangerous and scary religion so that her and on each other

do the thing with Don Lemon on CNN to guys when they started mocking Trump supporters and pretending they're stupid and using a Southern accent and I'm like you guys. he wouldn't he was laughing over them speaking with me so he can hit all the things were offencive I'm sorry I would never mock anyone some forms of prejudice are okay and some love about maybe this is just a British thing but I already addressed that got a real problem with old people right and white people or white people any papers but the Gaijin in the independence so it's looking like what they're going to die off soon and we can have another boat old people like people get older people change that mine it was written Stanislaus yeah yeah you can see that as anything is hypocritical of course you can but they're woke you know I mean it's they they might as well be in that Heaven's Gate cult every single day you know how to hit Clips to attach this experiment right whether they would publish something really stupid he woke just because it woke right so is submitting an article like James Lindsay and like that. Mentioning a few comics and it was so obviously I hope since he's stupid and I made up a name and I sent it and they were really loving it I like published it's still online and what's even worse is that your name and the headline is something like it's meant to be comedy if you set that you'll come up hate speech or how many of these online fake names at discussing drug screening back into industry and if you take the fourth letter of every sentence it's spelled out to Tony McGrath wrote this you gullible hacks I need the main thing it's amazing that you were able to encode that what it was a sure thing if they agreed with the sentiments so they posted in their paper you just be a random random random random person sends it in and they like brilliant degree and they put it in the National Paper independent do you know f****** because I actually think raise your standards you know beating us this this ideological b******* I think there's an issue to with online journalism that these people are basically fighting for their own Survival there's a real engagement have to kind of give into certain amount of Madness it's not the person that's the same reason why the most extreme ideas on Twitter get more retweets I get rewarded that they would like some it's like that shouldn't have a real old-fashioned headline women are evil in you know stuff like BuzzFeed does it but when it comes to a reputable Publications like the New York Times And The Washington Post why are they pushing this so you think it's just about money to generate clicks and clicks is what generates income and I think there's a real issue if you I know guys were journalists and women as well who will tell you that if they're articles do not get a certain amount of Engagement yeah they're in trouble and now they can't check how things that everything has to be something that is engaging it has to be it has to be attractive but either way encourages people to be upset about things because it shows you a lot of things that you engage with and a lot of times people tend to engage with things that they're upset by so whether it's abortion or second amendment or whatever the subject is if you have an engaging with that and you respond a lot he said that's what they're going to show you over and over and over again and it's really more of a symptom of what human beings are attracted to a lot of time you were attracted to things that upset us but that's going to spinal further and further out of control I mean to be a logical yeah I know that I'm so I'm so against censorship and you know I really am but I want I want journalists and commentators have high standards and was just being honest first and foremost and I have integrity and they weren't just have two clicks and then half of this stuff would go away I feel some of it would go away my question is they weren't doing this 15 years ago no so what will they be doing 15 years from now well this we're out with his dry up that's the question isn't all we can to reach a Tipping Point right that's the question right because every time I think we're nearly at the Tipping Point they double down and it got worse right so you know after Trump's election for instance write it almost immediately you have the women's March and I didn't really know what that was about like it was it was it was some people are Marching for feminism some people Marching for environmental issues some people ready in Cudahy what are you protesting in are you saying that you had found the saying not my president right so they protesting against democracy than in the UK when when we just had our general election is a big March would like to be defined as a note my prime minister for something right so I think what do you like about listen that in the future there going to be a combined force and they going to make sure that this doesn't happen again I think is a better way to do it without generating so much resentment. I think I think it's a more sophisticated approach which is to say that democracy sustained on the principle of the losses consent with any any democracy is going to have a substantial proportion of the population did not vote for the leader that picture and you have to have that and the best way to is true persuasion and sensible discussion and choose I'm not dressing up as a vagina ya no I agree with you in many ways but I also think for them is also fun to get together with a bunch of other like-minded people and you know and then there's the the men who joined in hey girls on with you vagina. Just mind ya know I agree with you in many ways but I also think for them is also fun to get together with a bunch of other like-minded people and you know and then there's the men who joined in hey girls on with you

care about. So stop blaming microphone lesbians hours from but you feel like you feel like someone standing over your shoulder thing you see is what you're supposed to support you were with her mother photos send it to a bunch of people about them calling for Captain Marvel to step down right okay why because we find it for you hold on a second cuz it's it's so f****** ridiculous they want Captain Marvel to step down and be replaced by a gay woman of color right yeah because I mean is that how the comic book was originally original comic book a gay woman incentive Theory time and Brie Larson to step down from her role to prove she's an ally of social justice and ensure a gay woman of color plays the role let Monica the original female and all caps black Captain Marvel instead of white washing characters for the benefit of the straight white men running Disney Disney is run by a woman that is almost positive the CEO of payment Disney's a woman is that right up that pretty sure is true about how ridiculous it is Janice from a press junket Sanford you can she's about a cat's enough she needs to step down because if you really woke you'll step down and show that you're an ally for social justice and give up those millions of dollars to some other person but by the way do you know tell the studio you're going to do that like they're not going to f****** just decide do you want us to cast a a black gay woman let's do that you have like a half black and kind of gay like pansexual behind the net that's part of the patriarchy what if you want a woman of color like he see this is the thing it never ends you cannot be woken up and once it gets too queer woman of color and they've got one of those ago you know what you should make room for a transgender and what is the equivalent of color is really bad at her job do you need to help her understand the society play small-town thing right they don't believe in it's also these people that you're talkin about they haven't built the structures that they want to tear down right right there not a part of the construction of these enormous film studios and Norms Entertainer entertainment Empires yeah that's so they want to step in to something that not only have they not built but they're not capable building right because they're wrapped up in this f****** wacky ideology that doesn't allow you to be creative so how do we get out of it allow you to be creative so how do we get out of it I think we're reaching a kind of Tipping Point like I said like that so many people would really sick of it you know

like I'm watching the show Vikings grey and Ana piss me off episode 2 this guy puts his feet up on the table and he's got rubber bottom soles of a shoe Mike you motherfukers he hasn't healed it's clearly made in a factory and there's like this textured plastic bottom to his shoe I'm watching this and I'm like highly known this was how they talked how do we know this is what they did. This is weird interpretation of historical events even mammals breathe and dissertations dolphins whales and so on and chimps A&R they feel these mothers are just just to Preston and almost suicidal when their infants die that's different from you know conceiving of like what I know I'm going to die cuz I see people around me going to die that I can get to conceive a maybe some other place to go so I start off as a paradox that if I asked you to imagine yourself dead you can't do it because to imagine anything you have to be alive be like falling asleep and waking up the next morning because you have dreams or whatever it's going to be more like general anesthesia where it's you know 10 9 8 boom boom lights out and you can but you just never wake up so and we talked about things like well there's nothing after death but but even the word no thing implies there's a thing or maybe you're going to this place this nother there's nothing with no thing or nowhere implies that there's aware that you're not going to but there's not even aware you're not going to and it's like you know with Lawrence Krauss and some of these cosmologists you know what's what was there before the Big Bang so what he said well Maginot Universe you don't know stars or planets are galaxies no light but does not even any space or time and at some point you just we don't have the words to even say what it is worth trying to talk about there's there's nothing before the Big Bang can't even actually talked about it well don't they think now though that it's entirely possible that the Big Bang I think something like that I think that fans and contracts infinitely forever yet that that's a preferable that it is well that he can't wait to come up with some way to talk about it so we also have this weird biological idea based on our own limitations that there's a birth and a death of everything right he's been and at times in the past either misleading or misled yes sometimes that's right you know some of his recommendations for dietary things or whatever perhaps but I know for sure cuz I got to know him pretty well that he totally believe the stuff he says it sounds like we was I used to call it if you interpret it from a position he says your Consciousness is the ground of all being it's the ontological Primitive these things that sound nonsensical but if you think about it from a simple perspective the entire universe is in your brain and when you cease to exist the universe ceases to exist or you but you're in your brain Consciousness definition into existence material stuff by thinking about observing into whatever and here's some quantum physics experiments that a really spooky a timeout Nina quantum physics this weird is Buche Consciousness is weird and spooky that doesn't mean they're connected he thinks they are guided meditation thing and all the massages and tees in the food and all that stuff and it's Resort in Carlsbad feeling better like yeah this stuff works where it where is Carlsbad Encinitas North San Diego what do you mean by I had an experience and we got to do better than that for science so what Deepak and Ryder talking about is that is that the Western version of Buddhism actually work medically may get a lower stress hormones in your body the lower blood pressure these kinds of things that are measurable cuz that's what we want to know from the Western Scientific perspective not to do I feel better but 67% of the people who did this particular treatment they got better by these measurable criteria for nothing that we can't even we can't even wrap our head around nothing because we would think of a thing that there's nothing but there's never a thing right right or why why don't we just say we don't know why don't we speculate on the possibility of Consciousness being some sort of ethereal thing or something that exists outside of the Bible we don't know we really don't doubt I conclude in the end of the day I don't know and there's an afterlife or not and that very end of the book we can come back to this later I just said it doesn't really matter whether there's an afterlife or not cuz we don't live in the afterlight we live in this life so this is the time you got to do whatever you got to do I call this Aldi's error Aldi's I'll be singer Woody Allen's character in Annie Hall scene in the movie where he is a flashback is a young boy and his season this psychiatrist offices with his mom and then what's the problem why won't you do your homework lb says the universe is expanding because the universe is expanding as the universe is everything there is and if it's expanding one day it's all going to blow apart so nothing really matters I'm not going to do my homework in Brooklyn Brooklyn is not expanding fascinating things to contemplate But ultimately really for practicality sake you really should be paying attention to life totally empty space and the quantum physicist super positions like particle subatomic particles being super position where they're in a state of moving and not moving at the same time explain that away that completely fuk my head up to like okay well that is this even though I don't understand he's like no it's not even that okay so but I understand it anyway that it doesn't really matter because the atoms are jiggling in a way that this is solid you could sell it sell it in this is the level we live at the wrong way to think about it Consciousness when you die you return to the conscious that you were before you were in before you're born so so the physical body is just an instantiation of this conscious thing whatever decision and I don't know I'd be surprised but I'll be pleasantly surprised if it turns out I close my eyes for the last time and I wake up and my friends this isn't hell if that's true I'm not against any of this just like I'm not against Ray Kurzweil in these guys figuring out that we can live 200 years or 300 is great if you can do it you know but let's just when they say to make sure where do you want to live to be 500 is like just give me the 80 with prostate cancer and if it turns out you we lived on 5200 then we have a bunch of other problems we don't even know about yet okay I think there's some beauty in temporary things that we've for whatever reason we're we are voiding. Concept we were terrified of things ending spytec will Christopher Hitchens in my book today love is analogy first of all you're at the party and then death Taps you on the shoulder since you have to leave and worse the party's going to go on without you and they're going to have fun as I do know but you can never leave the party of what heaven is like a guy with a harp I will harp and there's a bunch of babies with wings like what they're even a decide that they said that's why it's called it the celestial North Korea you have a dictator that knows all of your thoughts and everything you're going to do is wait a minute that that does not sound like fun to me

call nice, I'm not worried about my friend of it like cuz I like the people so much I've met and Bob would have never met anybody about me why didn't like yeah they're nice people write all of my nice people and none of them are dicks nothing to give that energy off like they all know they could strangle me like there's nobody makes you feel that way but that's why I got like Matt Serra is such a good guy cuz he's got such a good character you know and that you can kind of noticed that from a lot of Fighters right they have great character and when the reason why they have great character is there they don't have a problem with their ego they're controlled they are now do they are they feel good never uncomfortable around any of them like never for that reason at least no matter who they are or what position are in the other what kind of the same nothing come off like with that Alpha energy to other athletes give you have everybody choke you I used to do that yet that they're all pretty gentle state or put me in a f****** Goodwin didn't yeah yeah his hurt he put me he shouldn't kick me across the way it hurts so bad no but I'm being honest I think you did it like Neiman 50% not even close that was a probably wasn't even 30% all that was like the weight of his leg. He could have really f****** leveled me oh my God Owen Spader got you in an arm lock Google video series are you getting beat up by UFC fighter Seattle horrible fighting but I also know that they could I just trust him for some reason I trust him to be gentle I don't know why people choke to underarm Barbie I had some really fun was that I wish I had done more of these because it was really a bit done out of respect for what they do but I just to feel what it's like to watch someone who's world-class in one of the best alive and doing that and it was said to have them do it to you felt like f*** man this is how good this guy isn't this how did you get the gig with UFC how'd that work events in whatever and I just got a phone call one day he's like I hate doing a podcast with my starter won't do it just called me and goes here's the money do you want do the podcast it was a phone call from Dana podcast she didn't Matt was already in place and I said yeah I would love to so we worked out a couple of things at my job where I was able to do something else with my name on it and he just hire me of course I buy play quality I like Jiu-Jitsu so beautifully and that's not what I do ya know it's it's interesting that the UFC even has a podcast you know yeah UFC unfiltered yeah but I think he just wanted a different tone to it

do it once a week twice a week twice a week I see Matt every Monday and Wednesday really and you meet in the city of the studio Nina City in the studio and they will be a lot of Fighters On Studio lot of times are Skyping it sucks I prefer in studio every time I've only done a couple of skype's to accidentally Snowden and John Anthony West who is my favorite guest ever he's an egyptologist to his incredible standing of Egypt in the hieroglyphs and he had this great DVD series called magical Egypt just he just passed recently amazing guy but him and just cuz he was sick and couldn't connect in here and then Snowden obviously because he's on the moon beanie just driving going to do something and you're the wind in each of you could get anything done with the weird thing about the Snowden one to was wasn't just that it was remote was also like what we were talking about like who he is and what would his situation is he's trapped in Russia allegedly I mean you might be in Cleveland with a story is but that he's you know got this situation where he's never going to really be able to come back to United States unless they you know work out some sort of a deal and even then he's not going to believe them you know I mean I wouldn't believe them I would neither did he say no about UFOs though they didn't you ask him what he said they hadn't seen evidence unseen evidence but how much do you look into and how much was available to him and you know where where is that kind of evidence if there is any of that stuff I don't know I don't believe in UFOs when the New York Times had that thing where they were talking about all the different reported UFO sightings that are reputable from people like David fravor and you know these Air Force guys that are like otherwise rock-solid individuals who talk about their experiences but my problem with it might legitimate problem me as a human beings I want it to be real so when people don't think it's really, that's all bulshit I'm like it's real like I'm not I'm not objective unbiased like legitimately biased and I know it might come on man wife why so biased about this so it's a weird one like I wanted to be real so much like talking to Bob Lazar like God I hope he's telling the truth that what what the greys are and this is something I've personally thought I think independently was that if you look at human beings and you look at say a gorilla right look at a gorilla was this big hairy f****** animal thing and then you slowly turn that into I guess we can really come from Gorillaz we came from Champs books Champs you know monkeys lower hominids Australia pithecus you know and then you know ancient man right and then all these different versions of what we are until we become right now Homosapien 2020 well what are we how do we look different well unless you're someone works out alot you losing a lot of your musculature you're not as dense that you're not is Harry you know when you see like that f****** killer wrestler from Russia and when we showed videos of that dude goddamnit remember his name rooster f*** GF he's this f****** tank of a man that's covered in hair but he looks like someone from the past and only throwing people around his f****** giant hairy back and hair all over his chest and arms this is that guy but that. Almost normal human there but there's some some videos of him when he's grappling that one right there double Flex the red one read about that another time another time is just here might we're talking about aliens and I was saying if you look at people like that like real Harry f****** testosterone-filled Savages like this guy was an elite wrestler he's a killer Grappler and then you look at aliens well if you look at Champs to that guy to aliens what's happening what's happening we're getting less High I'm getting smaller and weaker right we're getting more and more like when an alien looks like an alien have no genitals there's no mouse that just as smooth skinny thing with his big head and his big weird I like when we get rid of the need if we evolved past the need for physical strength and we evolved past the need for you know sex if sex is the note we don't reproduce any longer through just normal by logical male female sex if they a million years are now a hundred thousand years now we might decide that one of the biggest problems that face is human beings on Earth is our emotions are our desire for sex biology all of our animal instincts that we still hold onto and we could have all passed those just like we're so much different than chimps are we're so much different than we used to be when we were lower hominid we've evolved we evolved to the point where we're communicating with words we use phone before I am planes we have technology but also our bodies are softer and our bodies are unless this did not as strong the knot is animalistic and explosive and if he continues along that path especially aided by technology when we don't have any need which of these big ass giant brains and we can use telepathy to communicate with you communicate through some other way maybe even electronically enhanced maybe you know something in their brain but when you look at an alien the big head and little tiny body that's what a person is probably going to become our heads are way bigger our brains are bigger than other hominids and other primates our bodies are softer and weaker and if you just keep going with that that's what happens ahead what do they have no genitals it could be that human beings become some sort of cybernetic some sort of cyborg if you think about body parts right like we start replacing body parts like I met a gentleman the other day I did this benefit pulled the guy what it what is the guy's name the Australian gentleman who was the soldier who lost both his arm and his leg in a shark attack I did a benefit the other day with him for the Australian while he's going to carbon fiber are matte carbon fiber legs crazy shakes your hand grips it was carbon fiber hand and you know right now you can tell the difference between his carbon fiber hand this electronic and and his other hand but maybe a hundred years now you won't be able to do and maybe in the future it's better to have one of these artificial bodies then it is to have a biological body that can break and get all f***** up and you feel pain we're replacing things all the time we're replacing body parts all the with operations and we use organic substitutes Paul De gelder benefit with Jim Jefferies and Monty Franklin and Whitney Cummings have the night for the Australian Wildfire for wildlife relief they wants a billion animals then maybe you'll get to the point where they'll have limbs that are better than the winds we have like what biological limbs upgrade alien body you know I want to believe do. You know I want I saw the Lazar documentary you had a man I enjoyed I didn't see the whole interview but I saw I liked a lot I just I just always that one place with conspiracy that there's always a gap I cannot cross course and tomatoes the degrees I just can't get beyond the degrees being gone but rather believe in UFOs well he's clearly educated and he guy up says he work for Los Alamos labs and they sent him to MIT to work on top secret project there's clear evidence he worked at Los Alamos lab actually do me a favor go to Jeremy to go to Jeremy's I think it's on his Instagram page he has this thing it might be on a Twitter he has this thing where he has George Knapp explain all the different things he went through to prove the Bob Lazar was legit one of them being that definitely worked at Los Alamos he was even in the employee registry even though they said he didn't yeah play that give me some volume does central question for me about Bob was did he work at Los Alamos lap if he work there on classified projects it is plausible that he could work at Area 51 at Papoose Lake on other stuff did he work there I can tell you flat out he did a hundred percent certain that he did I found his name of the phone book I found his name in an article Los Alamos newspaper I talk to people who were there and finally Bob took me there they took me into the lab waved at the security guys we brought a camera along this guy was familiar was like a rabbit running through a burrow that he had traveled everyday and he's waving his Security Guys and walking into all these buildings he knew his way around he'd been there before they knew him they let him in they let me in have any record we can't find anything they'd already told me they had the records as soon as I think I'm getting close they yanked the rug out from under me he took lie detector test he passed all of them I know that doesn't mean anything but this were talking about the 1980s they get away with a lot back then in terms of erasing your history and his his education is undeniable in terms of what he knows he's at he's a brilliant guy when you talk to him he's not faking anything he's not like he doesn't have any holes in his understanding and knowledge always telling the truth but again I'm not I'm not objective unbiased I want to believe I want to believe as well I can't get beyond the school things that's Dynamite into me that says he's not being truthful of MIT thing I'll tell you this he told me that they sent him from Los Alamos labs to there to work on something and I'll tell you what it is off air but I told him I wouldn't I wouldn't talk about it during the podcast cuz you're going to hear when I tell you going to go ho Lee fuk and I'll make a little more sense it's I don't know you know it's again I'm a f****** loser I wanted to be real so I'm not looking at it yeah I'm not your very biased menu care anymore like even the the the three naval videos high bun with whatever a pilot C7 that Tic Tac video but now that there's something that they're saying it's making me go that might be man-made because they're saying something about if we were to reveal this it would compromise National Security no no they can reveal all the files they have on these UFO incidents it would compromise National Security First of all because it'll compromise their If he if they reveal how they know that something is blocking radar that object whatever it was actively jamming radar I had Commander fravor the guy who died on that thing the guy who was there and who reported that thing I had him here he said that thing went from 60000 feet down to 200 in less than a second there's nothing we have another now he said that the thing moves so fast it made this this travel in this radar you know radar is a blip rise like between one blip to another it it moved in a Preposterous speed you could even track it it was it was moving so fast they don't know if it did it in less than a second or we did in one second but whatever it was the amount of distance that have traveled is impossible do they have the laws of physics as we understand could they see it could they see with the naked eye as well yes yes you can see the video you can see the thing on video you can see the thing on video move off you can see that it's actively jamming radar you can see that they're they're trying to track it and stay with it but it's moving too fast that might be man-made and I figured it was something to do with compromising National Security I whatever the quote wise I was like that sounds like something that is man-made they're worried they'll compromised someone made okay if it's not man then it's something from another planet maybe this man-made maybe it is some project that the government has but whatever it is it's something that moves at an insane speed that we're not capable of understanding is in terms of what what the average person understands propulsion and engines and combustion all those people will pilot see One Pilots a stuff I listen to it because they understand those thing I don't like for me I don't know how things are supposed to move but they do play something that's what got me interested was in the times did the article on those so I really started going like I started watching & Reading like I want to believe I just can't find anything that doesn't have a gap that I can't cross well you should talk to Forever he's a f****** rock-solid guy he's very it's very compelling me to talk to me in person because he doesn't have anything to do with publicity is not interested at all he wanted to tell his story because he felt like they're not being honest about it and that people really should know that there's some things that we don't understand and that these guys that are down in San Diego that we're at the Air Force Base they were seeing these things like fairly recently before his his experience they had seen one like four in the last couple weeks I think it was and then they find them on the east coast to the same thing and they move in the same way that Bob Lazar described these things that he worked on area S4 the same way where there's something called Element 115 that Bob Lazar described in the late 80s early 90 didn't even know it was real until 2013 he was describing it long before it was ever proven to be an actual thing long before they were created with a particle accelerator this is my head again Basin is only an opinion have no facts to this when I listen to him he was my first thought was after these things that don't line up while he took somebody story what he's saying is somehow true but he's telling somebody else's story and maybe a total Bly that was my head told me was cuz he knows so much and yet have they make your education disappear like I want the 1980s quickly but I want it to be true like I want people to go out Kanye West in my f****** my class I don't think I talked about it on the podcast where he went back and found these guys that he worked at the lab with he worked at Los Alamos lab for sure and he worked on top secret nuclear projects and he worked in propulsion and that's one of the reasons why they sent him to this area as for because he put a jet engine in a Honda in the 1980s and you know intent understanding of combustion engines and propulsion all these different things that he's creating and so like let's see if this guy can crack this crazy night and so they were just bringing scientist to try to get a different perspective on these crafts and the one that he was working on or one of them that he's working on they said they had found in the archaeological dig that's where it gets really crazy like they found this thing what he was working on they think would he read was that what the government was telling them when they're working there when they were briefing him was that human beings are the product of science projects that human beings were created when many many thousands of years ago hundreds whatever millions of years ago however long it was aliens came down here and did experiments with lower hominids they did experiments with primates and added their DNA and manipulated the DNA to create human beings Bob Lazar crushing it's not that I don't know enough about it to convince you otherwise I but I just don't but I'm kind of hoping you can convince me if they made the school records disappear but why do they leave the records that we just saw from that place didn't know they were there that that somebody had a copy of the the the registry for that that place someone who work there during the same time he did how to copy the registry do they didn't just eliminate is eliminated social security number eliminate a lot of s*** in the 1980s that can make you effectively disappear yeah I'm sure they can I mean the NBA is Paper Trails for a little bit different but it's just I can't get beyond the 2° and I'll I get I want I want to I'm sure I've heard him interviewed he's a very compelling guy when I'm at the degrees or not hard that's not hard to get past that's not hard to to eliminate what's hard is understanding all the things he understands when it comes to science education the way he talks about it have you ever seen the videos where he's describing it in a late 80s it's exactly the same as he describes it now exactly the same no variation whatsoever that kind of story 40 years ago and then I ask you again today to tell me that same story most bullshitters are going to have some holes in that store and change it and doesn't mean he's telling the truth but he's been insanely consistent I would almost think even a truth-teller will make mistakes never timed up if it's a if it's a store that I've created I think I'm less likely to forget details if I created it because I have a beginning middle and end to it right but it's very complicated when he sang is very complicated in the descriptions of them with descriptions of these crafts and the way the propulsion system works and the fact that it uses this incredibly dense element that doesn't even exist on Earth and you know 1989 or whatever it was but now they found actual real thing like that element 115 that was people saying that science fiction you're making things up but now that they have created in particle accelerator so I call it is a real thing and what if there's a planet that has a completely different atmosphere hooley different relationship with the star and element 115 is common like they find things in asteroids all the time that are very very rare on Earth but very common it's based it's one of the ways that they know whether or not we've been impacted like one of the ways they know that the Yucatan was hit with his gigantic asteroid that killed the dinosaurs 65 million years ago is a layer of iridium at 65 million years iridium is very very rare on Earth but very common in space and this layer of it this dense layer at 65 million years ago shows that that's when it was hit that this giant chunk of Space Rock slammed into the Earth and kill everything yeah I know I'm sorry I wish I was more and I don't I don't want to be because I really want to believe it because it also gives us a hope that we have some kind of a possible immortality summer bleed a f****** like Ray Kurzweil much anybody does he gives us all hope but I just I keep getting to a sticking point every single time there's something I can't get Beyond when it comes to that conspiracy I know what you mean I know what you mean it's look I thought it was all horseshit for a long time I was I was like I was mocking at all for a long and then Jeremy Corvallis documentary really flip the switch with names like god dammit is this real and then getting to know Jeremy and talk to him and then getting no Bob having dinner with Bob and then getting Bob to come here and sit down it was very hard to get him to come in very hard very hard he was super nervous he's getting migraines didn't want the he didn't want the scrutiny and then me while he's doing Jeremy's documentary they f****** raid his business they re is business and go through all the stuff the FBI did they caught it on video they don't it's all part that this is not just a regular guy they're going through all of his his his data to going through his all of his email that They confiscated his computers didn't find anything he's he's free and clear but they were looking for element 115 e things cuz he had some apparently and they had done some tests and there's a video of it with George Knapp where they've got like they've got fog that usually some sort of a frog they're showing how this gives off a certain gives off a certain field that makes it almost impossible to grab and touch and his fog is rejected by this field and what they're saying about that element is in a butcher this I don't really understand the science but this this gravity intensifier this gravity multiply or whatever the f*** is gravity projection thing with that 115 it distorts gravity and that's how these things are able to move through these insane through insane speeds and the way he described it is then it's like if you had like a real cushy mattress real soft mattress and you put a massive bowling ball in the center of the mattress everything we just goes and bend around the bowling ball will that's what element 115 with that craft in a propulsion system does two space-time it bends gravity and it ends bass tab and everything else gets f***** up the give you a Benny facetimes if everything else is trying to come closer together and I don't know I don't know maybe maybe maybe doesn't I don't know maybe just doesn't with whatever's around it and maybe we don't understand what you know how was space we know that gravity bends things are going to Ben's light that's why you know when you're looking at the sun you can actually see things they can see things that are actually behind the sun because it wore the mask the gravity of the sun cuz it's so enormous it actually manipulates light it been since you can see things that are actually behind it I want to know like you young she had done to deGrasse Tyson Watch times that he's fascinated and a skeptic because he made and what he knows or believes scientifically he's a DJ and he's our f****** like a guy who works at computer wait wait wait and Troy went out of with Neil deGrasse Tyson hell yeah about what government agent to end but it was a great video. But if they're not being told do you think that they tell astronomers and astrophysicists you think they tell guys like Neil deGrasse Tyson like why would they pull him aside hey hey guy who works at the Hayden planetarium we're going to we're going to give you secrets and we definitely want to make sure you don't tell him to people on the Opie and Anthony show we're going to give you secrets and we definitely want to make sure you don't tell him to people on the Opie and Anthony show Troy thinks that he knows

can't wait for ngannou strike I can't wait can't wait for that fight when is that scheduled for what I want to say it's April tickets just went on sale what was more impressive than anything to me in that fight was not getting knocked him out with the last 10 seconds to go but absorb all the shot out there hitting with and he kept pressing forward almost like he was invulnerable to him I never saw anybody do that to Aleister Alistair was winning that fight for sure roses truck is a f****** tank man he's a tank and he's legit 265 right unnatural 265 asses and Ghana so I think this is the first time in Ghana has ever fought a guy who has a real world class kickboxer who is also his size Nacho and is also a vicious knockout Park puncher I still thinking God of his harder I see a thing in Ghana was faster but if I was in rosenstreich corner would I would be concentrating on his leg kicks in particular because Junior dos Santos even though in Ghana starch them in the first round and come starch is almost everybody out but Junior was able to get off a lot of leg kicks early in the round and was able to at least affect him in somewhere else like okay this could be an issue the real good kickboxer now we didn't see rosenstreich use that sort of strategy against against Alistair he was really looking to put hands on Alistair he threw some kicks but really I think and if he adjusts with ngannou and tries to move away from the big shots and chop the legs he's a better kickboxer he's got real experience with Muay Thai you know but he's also a ruthless knockout Striker and he has a crazy chin golden strike has a crazy chin man can you feel bad though for overhang at the end of that like the fact it was almost like he kind of just jumped up and walked off like it was a walk-off homerun and then the rest of the night like they're going to do is face was hanging off find that KO find rosenstreich Alistair Overeem UFC does a thing that I really wish they wouldn't do and I don't understand the thought process behind it and this thing is they don't show finishes online you can't see the finishes like you'll see a guy pulling off of a guy like when they stop the fight easy walks away like but they don't show the actual finish what do think that is poor thinking exciting people want to see them make more people watch it is that to get you to fight passivation swatches stop the fight is that it at the end of it okay I wanted it to play out more because you could see how he's basically helpless I wonder if they do that to get people to go to bypass like maybe if they if we show you part of an automatic promotion for 5 to thank you I can't imagine that's true that's awesome they should just go to it if your fan yeah I mean it's five past is great and it's not just for 5 past it's got you know quintet Eddie Bravo's combat Jiu-Jitsu Zahn that a bunch of different Muay Thai organizations on that all the UFC's bypasses the ship here to suck a little bit. if you have jumped on him and they stopped that I would get it but you can see he touched him watched and touches touches in there yeah he walked off after Alistair it's a real good point messed up maybe it's just the cut was so nasty nasty by the way I just stopped it and him walking away might have fun tonight lyrics to win that one more time one more time and gets caught boom gets dropped yeah you know you're right. Right back up Ashley's good point okay now I change my mind I change my mind it was like a Rodriguez Korean zombie it's like you ever watch a fight for you if you can't not watch till the end. Elbow was insane the elbow was insane the way he threw that like a Look Away elbow and the Korean zombie just flatlines like holy s*** wasn't Rodriguez I was yes and then the Korean zombie just knocked out Frankie Edgar to take 2 years off to serve the South Korean military makes you it's mandatory it's like Israel you have to do mandatory military time

what do you think of I'm looking forward to I decided I kind of wanted to see Paula cost to get the fight but the fact that he's doing with Romero is still in your so great fight I'm happy it's your Romero for two reasons one because Paul Kosta they can do in the future is only like 29 years old he's a young guy do that I got a Sonia into stylistically I want to see I still see Paul Acosta Costa is a monster-man he's he's a monster really interested in seeing him fight Israel but stylistically I'm interested in your well Romero vs Israel because of the wrestling cuz your wells wrestling is crazy he's one of the most powerful guys ever fought in that division he's enormous for that Division and he's so f****** explosive and he can take a credit and crazyshot I mean if you look at the two of them together I mean is he is taller and longer yoel is just f****** jacked he's not even built like a real human his waist is tiny thing his muscles are f****** Preposterous when you see him you like that's a comic book guy that's not a real person he's a comic book person he's 40 years old 41 years old is 41 still jacked super super jacked and I think honestly he should have already been the champion I think he'd beat Robert Whittaker in a second fight my feeling is that he hurt him or he is more effective and then Newgrounds easily could have been 10-8 rounds where he had Robert Whittaker f****** staggered and if that was the case you would have won the title did he was it a split decision and remember I don't know I don't remember you Google yoel Romero vs Robert Whittaker I don't know what they mean split decisions are so crazy right like what if Thiago Santos has the UFC light heavyweight champion now be at least five judges probably should be 10 and I think we should also have an online judging I think they should have that and maybe they don't take it into consideration and turn but but for us was it's a unanimous decision what by one point on each judges scorecard and I disagreed with that but you know that's okay very interesting when is eos at March in Vegas I think it's yes it yeah he's not getting enough credit he's 12 and no he has a f****** plus left hand he's super athletic and he's really tall he's really tall and long and he's a young guy 30 years old you know and John you know John has to take that guy really f****** serious I did think if I remember correctly I remember thinking was damier won the fight I thought I thought he should have gotten a decision over. reach Jon Jones has an 83 and 1/2 by 84 and 1/2 inch reach and then you look at Dominic raises 77 that's interesting that's the width of the shoulders John is so long yeah you know you're measuring tip-to-tip like this in one thing that John excels at is keeping people at distance but he's fighting a guy that's his height that guy's just as long as him let me not as wide obviously the reaches different in terms of the width of the shoulders but Dominick Cruz is footwork and movement is X his kicks are excellent he's got nasty power in his hands and he's got a lot of confidence man is undefeated coming into 12 another guy is it killer what he did to Chris Weidman I was like holy s*** to watch hard to watch tops things on you and dudes fold like when he fought OSP he knocked out OSP with no time in the fight was basically like a couple of seconds to go in the fight he cracked OSP and they didn't give him the knockout which I don't understand Stewie was way worse than Alistair and and Roses strike me and he had OSP out he was gone and they they didn't stop the fight and I'm like I don't understand this this is like it was confusing to me because he walked away like it was over and it looked at find that Dominick Reyes drops OSP gave him some trouble he he he gave him some trouble and what I mean Dominic was definitely winning the fight but OSB has moments deadly has mom with him and I watch that fight about a month ago or so and when I was watching I was trying to find moments where I think John could capitalize at OSP couldn't but it was Pisa very strong guy is a struggle with him including Jon Jones Jon Jones to Powerhouse Manhattan you can't f****** with OSP no hiki Kayo's guys with one punch TKO Corey Anderson I think after a while I've been gone for a while and then yep they did so here it is so here's Dominick Reyes watch this he's moving boom he drops them other than he's out out like that's it and they don't stop the fight in the referee stands over and let him get back up to speed in the bell rang and they didn't call The Knockout I'm like okay that's a knockout man you could you know you couldn't justify keeping that FICO and that's what I bet your ovary wishes would have happened with they wouldn't let him just walk away and that if listen if Dan miragliotta and Jen did his job because Dan supposed to be the guy that calls a fight right I think you should have called the fight but Dan is supposed to be the guy that cause a fight not the fighter so adamek play it again with Dominic Kos him all I had to do is follow up with a couple strikes and then the f****** show's over watch this puts beautiful footwork I love how he did it to SPS moving cuz he's behind so he's trying to move forward and press and trying to catch him and Dominick's move in and OSB presses them and you know and he uses good footwork to avoid this to it catches that left kick which is osp's power side and as OSP set it up bicego Southpaw guess who's looking for that left again there it is step over bang left hand and then referees waiting for him to follow up so if you just jumped on there and followed up instead of walking with his hands up the buzzer may have gone off somewhere around then I don't know when the buzzer went off like 20 seconds see if we can get some volume on that lot last time I still think they should have stopped it but I don't know whatever he won the fight but look he basically knocked him out with a second ago stop in my opinion, so he dropped him at the horn I still think they should have stopped it but I don't know whatever he won the fight but look he basically knocked him out with a second ago

you know but he's got a different fight in front of them this weekend with Jon Jones Jon Jones has such a history of success against the best fighters on the planet John find a way to win a guy's man he finds a way and it said that was a good thing that said Gustafson fight the first one it was such a Jones really turned it on around 4 and 5 and then rounds 4 and 5 Jones 1 MLB like f*** that's why he's a champion he won the final round and he wasn't even in shape he didn't train for that fight they said he just f***** off and was partying and having a good time he just thought he was going to be unbeatable and he said something really interesting to me when he came in here he said he always gave himself an excuse so that like if he did lose you could always say well you know what at least I didn't rain like if I trained then I would have beat that guy still beating people even though it wasn't raining hard and then he started ramp it up and actually training hard when he almost lost everything and we got arrested and all that s*** that happened to him and almost lost his career then when it came back yet much more sense of urgency cuz you realize like what a gift it really want battery was doing that in the first place just the all of it everything was wrong too much partying but sometimes someone needs some sort of a Giant's character horrible series of events will you realize like oh I can't I can't do this anymore I got to live my life in a better way yeah you have to almost have everything taken away from you but I believe the Dominick Reyes is the most dangerous fighter Jon Jones has faced since Daniel Cormier I think Dominic Reyes very unique series of challenges first of all the length the undefeated record he's 12 and no just confidence that comes undefeated Fighters and Dominic is extremely confident he's he's a believer in himself and that belief in himself has led him to stop guys like Chris Weidman to knock out OSP with one second ago he's got believe in his powers got legit one punch knockout power he's got great footwork and movement he just had the opportunity to see John struggle with Thiago Santos he has a style he can mimic that kind of success that The Chopping at the legs I think this is a dangerous fight for John but I also think John knows it's a dangerous fight for John and John is a champion a real Champion the greatest champion the light heavyweight division has ever known unquestionably and I think he's going to rise to the occasion I think we're going to see the best Jon Jones I think Jon Jones needs a real threat to scare him and work him up and I don't know if Thiago Santos was that for him maybe not as a title defense fight but I don't think I don't think that's what he gets scared of I think John needs someone like a Dominick Reyes a real threat so that you see who he was in the second fight with Daniel call me when you head kick DC and knocked him out the second fight with Gustafson gussets and we smashed out that's the real Jon Jones Jon Jones when he depressed and I think the Dominick Reyes presents a kind of a problem and I think you're going to see a f****** killer Jon Jones next weekend I think he's going to be on fire I can't wait that's a week from this Saturday Lakeland Saturday so pumped the moment I stop feeling like this I'll stop calling fights but right now I'm a f****** love it. I want to see the fight on the horizon

Dana White Eskimo Usman vs. Jorge Mas without plan for international fight week Super Bowl against that's why I thought the next fight was going to be really wants to be and Dana's keeps saying they're going to try to make a rematch but I don't know why they're saying that one could be and has to fight motherfuking Ferguson ya homies the boogeyman that nickname el Cucuy that's a perfect nickname for that guy that guy's terrifying he never gets tired never gets tired everybody fights and looks like they fell off a train it's it's crazy that the fight everybody is wanted to see Anna and again is that March or April cuz if Carnival okay that's still a ways away and then who knows how to get better I don't think you make a hundred million dollars the only way to make a hundred million dollars if it gets too kind of numbers that Floyd Mayweather versus Conor God or the UFC decides to bankroll it and Gamble and give him a hundred million dollars they might do that cuz here's one thing we have to take into consideration about could be he's not just an enormous star in the United States he's a huge superstar in the muscle called huge huge he's a super religious guy and he celebrates Ramadan he's you know he's very respectful this is reason why conures trash talkin all that was so infuriating to him he's a different guy man he's a man of virtue still drives a f****** Toyota it's worth millions and millions of dollars he's not he's not a flashy dude he's a f****** Warrior and he doesn't want to have that kind of situation again in his eyes they fought once he smashed Connor and got out of the tap choked him and he's like good I didn't fight over I do what I want to do f*** you you know and then when they're saying gone make a rematch no no that we had to fight I f***** him up he can suck my dick I'm going to go do other things and that's that's that's what he's thinking I think not to suck the dick part khabib vs. Tony is the toughest fight of khabib's career I really believe that I think Tony Ferguson is a nightmare for anybody especially right now when you watch his fight with Anthony Pettis when you watch it while we busted up Donald Cerrone I think Tony Ferguson is the scariest guy for anybody in 155 lb he doesn't get tired he f****** is bricks for Hands by Josh Thompson in here the other day Joshua saying when when Tony Ferguson grabs him he can't believe how big is hands are did you wrap his hands around as risky as you couldn't get my hands-free because he's f****** hands are so big and strong training he teaches himself he's got all this crazy shity does wheedling Wing Chun dummies and breakdances is a video that I could even think of that reminds me of Tony Ferguson no one he's so different you know that said khabib's a f****** send me no one runs through people's away khabib does he smash his people he dragged into the ground he out Russell's any parmesan we beat them down you know he's an undeniable Unstoppable Force the two of them together it's an epic fight but I would not be making any plans if I was Dana or if I was anybody else I would not be making any plans cuz could be you can win that fight yeah but it's not guaranteed buy to Ferguson to win that fight they both can win I just want to fight to happen this is this the fourth or fifth time it's instead I just want to fight to happen it could only hope only hope and pray they keep it together so f****** amazing Fight Man amazing and Caitlin is 5 what is she putting on Tina Spider-Man amazing and Caitlin is 5 what is she funny Valentina

any partner just beat the crap out of me for weeks on in and I went through that and we asked Mike like Mike out or you think about this is just normal and that the feeling like this my psyche that's normal and especially in this voice the champion that I was just described in there giving him some rounds but then you take him out there and you put him in front of under the lights put 17,000 20,000 people around him and he can't do it and they just can't do it that's what makes Champions champions being able to deal and then handle all the chaotic stuff that happens before after and what's happening around them and until I and you know that I was just like man you know he's so right because guys I have watched several guys in the practice room beef doing techniques like how is that even possible like hitting you with crazy stuff but then you put them in there and put them under the lights and looks like he's an amateur that is one of the weird things about Jim's is those guys who are gym Killers yes inside the gym they're f****** killers and then for whatever reason they can't do it again. white or is that just something since I did something that's inside because I've seen guys that they know like these guys put on clinics inside the practice room but then they get out there and find a way to lose they find a way to lose it can't deal with it they can't handle the pressure they can handle everything that comes with it is find a way to lose to where you're just like how is that possible even if the guy is nowhere near the level they find a way to lose that you have had a bunch lights we don't remember most of the fight like that that's a thing that a lot of Fighters don't necessarily talk about but it's a reality of hard fights the second fight with gray where evil thing was that the referee I remember fourth-round mark my coach Mark was like you know telling me we got one more round in my head on my one more round what happened to three and four I didn't remember it all and also I when I drop me I rolled my ankle really bad probably a grade-two sprain and I remember in the fourth round coming to if my ankles hurt me I'm like what happened to I've no idea what I'm angle and they were walking back and I was kind of you know I don't know sometimes you get rakyat depressed for some reason I noticed that even to the gym when you get what I get Rockdale I got a little bit of depression going on for some reason like what does it feel like when you say depression like yourself but the fact is that was a second fight nothing ever fight the third fight you stop talking but you won't write the f****** fights that you had with gray we're so crazy they were so cute he was so big is Big Boy minutes so big 455 you know and you were a guy didn't cut any weight at all nothing you eat breakfast on the way and a wow that's crazy town you just like f****** I'm a champ want to watch that one that's why I was going to Camp why should I go down I mean I'm winning I'm beating these guys even the best fights ever super close so you know I could have went either way and I just felt me and I'll I'll go down now I lost two in a row here with me know what more can I gain from you let me go down to 45 and that's that's what I'll do for the for the for the 45 how about when you think about it like if you had a chance to do it all over again like if you had an engineer your career all over again would you do it exactly the same way with your 555 will you definitely against BJ right yeah I mean you can't go back and change it all worked out for me and I got the world title I had a problem you know I'm continuing to have a pretty good career there's always things you wish you could do differently you know I can't be like I was going to say I wish that things went the way they went what's good for them you know that. The love they gave me to to get me even just to get me there you know cuz I was ready to break man I was I was in pieces so many days in that camp is you know it was it was just a roller coaster of emotions but having them you know my father my brothers behind me that's where that strength came from and in everything we went through before butts up that's why I was so emotional in the cage and you be emotional anyways for a title fight but you know it was it was something else just to just to get their you known in and have that opportunity and you could really matter you co I mean my UCR he he's right there with his hands like powerful moment right there did it bother you that he was here a lot of sour grapes after the fight they guard did it did it did he didn't didn't really credit you for the fight was just saying most of that you want steroids my mom yeah paying our respects give him a hug but I felt like the way you handled it was uncharacteristic for him we were so respectful before after the fight I went up to him in a before they made the decision I want to tell my sugars hand I said man of Honor you know so much respect for you it was an honor to battle with you and I think to thank you and we shook hands and hugs and and you know but then he didn't stay after they raised my hand he he walked right out we didn't shake hands again and then everything else yet really surprised me I think it was just hard to two because you know this was my 10th by he'd already had over 50 he was a big he was a big favorite I just don't think you know he they were very confident they were very confident leading up to the fight and I don't think anyone imagined me to walk out of there with that belt the plan was formed in 1865 at the end of the Civil War and it was formed by a by 6 Confederate soldiers who were of Irish and Scottish descent and what they did was they borrowed the the rituals or similar rituals and names and a mystery from the Scottish Rite Masons ran this or that, exactly if you see playing groups out in public they will hold a unified front but behind closed doors they don't like each other real yeah so anyway if you have a chapter of your particular plan route in another state or in multiple States you may then consider yourself or your group to be a national claim group therefore you must have a national leader who oversees all the states in which you have a chapter of your particular group so we call our national leader the president and Clan terminology that person is known as the Imperial wizard anybody who is prefix with the word Imperial is that person is a national officer wizard being the top if you're a wizard by the president and Imperial playlist will be like a vice president and the other secretaries treasurer's whole nine yards and then the next level down would be State the head of the state which we call the governor that person is known as a grand Dragon anybody Grand is on the state level State officer Dragon being the top of the oven a grande playlist will be like a lieutenant governor and then secretary-treasurer and then within the state you have counties the county leader is known as the great Titan anybody on the great level isn't on the county level within the county you have districts what they call clatterans and we would call a district leader of Mayor a councilman Alderman that individual is known as they are as an exalted cyclops Cyclops what you would say Sir exalted Cyclops that's hilarious to make him look bad that he supports me or that he used my endorsement read the Bernie Sanders and all I said is I'm probably going to vote for him I like Tulsi gabbard I really love her a little Kim I love Andrew Yang those people to think like a really important point I'm a f****** moron if you're basing who you're going to vote for President Trump for president based on my what I like I know I'm not I'm not that balls deep into this stuff is not it's not based on your look muscular bald-headed white guy I don't know if this would be I bet this be a different game what's easy to paint me as a douchebag right and also the thing that I said in the video was exactly what they did I said if you just take the worst aspects of someone take out everything else magnify it right and you know you can paint them out to be a real piece of s*** today but it's hard to do that on the front lines in the 60s civil rights like getting change required to make the military function correctly gas work I mean maybe we're better off with Trump maybe we're better off with someone else I don't know what's required to be a president I really don't I don't understand what's required to make sure the economy functions correctly and also I don't understand what's required to make the military function correctly now it just gas work I mean maybe we're better off with Trump maybe we're better off with someone else I don't know

favorite video in New York is the rat is killing the pigeon Jersey library I'm solid ice up pizza rat yeah Pizza riding s*** pigeon killing rat the f****** rat killing a pigeon Loud Like the Wolf Brigade down Subway area was it on the street I think it was on the street cuz I don't think pigeons actually go into the subway good blind to the most part until I get f***** over and it never hike it out an airport yeah I have to keep that sweater always non cuz they're partly is filing them down give it a go cuz he's animal facts dragged through the hole in the fence and f**** it up that's hilarious when you go into their Lair and the pigeon knows anything I can't get off the street like khabib how to try IUI lived in Encino and I was renting this house in the house a lot of rats and leave my garbage in the garage and then I'll put it out in the morning and I was seeing these rats so I can set a trap not mice rats f****** rat big rats so I hear snap so I go out to check and there's a fat boy that's got his head crushed in this trap trap in the morning in the morning in the only thing that's left is the tail everything they'd everything their feet in the tale the all the guts the body the spinal cord everything it was just like a stained and the tale of tales are so disgusting in the Trap then they eat the rat then they get poisoned I could be something you could put the problem with poisoning rats is a lot of times doesn't kill them immediately and then iote's get it and then they get poison then mountain lion a little to poison coyotes or they killed a rat or a owls also get killed by rat poison it's real problem with owls cuz a lot of people leave rat poison outside their house and then the rats eat the poison they get weekend than an owl comes in and eat lamb circle of life circle of life damn did you did you live in New York yes you have nice I'm sure oh yeah yeah I lived in New Rochelle though I never lived in the city I couldn't afford to live in the Bronx okay don't know what to do I take a broomstick I stick it to the sticky trap and then I go outside and put in the garbage can while they're still alive rats and mice and humans it's a strange thing and then Scott Moran 3-year up and f***** everybody up Cry Me a River help yourself I love words Country 2 and New York City is I think they said it's either the number of rats is the same as the number of people that live in New York City or the biomass not sure which one but both of them are equally terrifying yeah it was the bomb especially more terrifying right cuz it means there's so many rats that the same mass of bodies as they are of human being also if you measure the weight of all human beings and all ants it's even yeah I know that I love a fun fact that's a weird one right re etymology study of insects so he did some time in the jungle and they were have to put turpentine all over the posts of these platforms that the tents would be on cuz there's so many ants on the jungle floor that you when he said he was lying in bed you could hear the and there's so many of them they kill elephants the elephant's body and go right into its ear just started eating its brain kind of keeping our bodies and check keeping our numbers and check you know like we like we have systems for rats and mice and all these different things to keep them in check while nature sort of had a way to keep you in check creditors and cheeses starvation injury so you're saying we beat nature nature so f***** up mentally because we're not supposed to be nature well we're a little too safe for sure for sure all contained in these buildings were the no Predators can get as we all get doughy like f****** human water balloons right and one thing of discomfort and we have to fix it and work on it but yeah we complain yeah we're getting our jaw shave down to look prettier than 250,000 tens of millions but this is a trap that was a video of them all buckets gloves on or something

do bears have chlamydia and cut his hand and got monkey blood in his hand while he was like butchering a monkey Dave Chappelle had a bit about 100% infection rate is wild f****** that is insane wow koalas have a 100% infection rate of chlamydia for two decades scientist have brought wild koalas into Wildlife hospital to treat their chlamydia there something like 80% of their habitats been destroyed the fires over there and saying I did a benefit Sunday night with my Hoffman or Imani Franklin rather Whitney Cummings and Jim Jefferies benefit for the Wildlife fires door knock down with that s*** see the devastation it's crazy 70% of Australia is covered in Smoke 70% and it's as big as United States that's a bummer no way of stopping it I mean unless the reins put it out or it burns all the way to the coast yet the stupid question what is the money going to do you know I know it helps people work for wildlife I'm already know some of them they've rescued and they have to put them back into suitable habitats and that's that the money is going to while I mean you're not going to fix the f****** the devastation by the fire and the plants in the house isn't hopeless people their homes burned down had some sort of insurance but how much f****** insurance money is there a tract the ground in Australia currently and is all year by The Animals yeah well it's a billion animals that's why a billion animals wow so it'll be in history books yeah oh yeah invasive species Aborigines cuz they live in huts and s*** right about that. I don't think they live in us for the most part I think a lot of living in that normal most of those languages aren't even written down apparently really yeah my buddy Adam green trees from Australia and he runs a mining company and they hire a lot of the folks that are aborigines and you know he's gotten to be very close with a lot of them and kind of gotten to know their culture and understand their culture and it's really really strange like yeah they're scattered all over the country and so many of them have they called they call the mobs like the tribe is a mob and they have a different language than another mob that's like 30 miles away at a dangerous we might do they fight each other and stuff it was it's not that different from America do Melbourne's real close yeah I think there's that there's so much scuse me the coffee man that's tumeric is going right at my other Laird Hamilton SuperFood 50s just me not that long ago they were actually taking average no babies from the parents and a good intent and I don't know in a weird way the moms got to kind of be like it's a better life I don't think so I got a TV the New South Wales alone or 3,000 house to another thing said that that was the number so I don't know if it's 3,000 total or just a mess up too bad. It could be worse last year just in Malibu

voting for us cuz it's so it's so obvious what it is they're using me to make him look bad that he supports me or that he used my endorsement red probably I think like a really important point I'm a f****** moron if you're basing who you're going to vote for on President Trump for president based on my right what I like I know I'm not I'm not that balls deep in this stuff is not it's not very strange is a little out of left field but how much of this is based on your look if you are in a muscular bald-headed white guy I don't know if this would be easy to paint the douchebag and also what is the thing that I said in the video was exactly what they did I said if you just take the worst aspects of someone take out everything else magnify it right and you know you can paint them out to be a real piece of s*** today but it's hard to do that that doesn't mean I don't know what's required to be a president I really don't I don't understand what's required to make sure the economy functions correctly and also I don't understand what's required to make the military function correctly now it's just gas work I mean maybe we're better off with Trump maybe we're better off with someone else I don't know but what was fascinating to me was that these people f****** CNN homophobic and transphobic that's completely out of context that the only is it was first trans people some trans people listen to I got nothing but love for you for everybody and is backed Eddie Izzard is one of my all-time favorite love is he's one of the most inspirational and brilliant people I've ever met I love that guy and he's probably one of the most public trans people in the first most public celebrities to go trans don't care that's what it what I was saying in the video that using was me saying you're f****** man definitely shouldn't use those words but this is why I was upset it was a guy that this person was a man for 30 years transition to become a woman for 2 years and then started fighting women in MMA and didn't tell them that she used to be a man and was smashing girl she literally broke this girl skull but broke her face and was bragging about it like she you know she was hyping up her MMA career right yet and then people found out that she was a trans woman and she used to be a man she said that she didn't have to disclose that because it was a medical procedure had nothing to do wasn't there their business very shady and in fact a woman bought the UFC a girl named Ashlee evans-smith who's a really good fighter you know UFC kalra fighter unlike this other woman who was the trans woman that trans women just really strong the same caliber the world class martial arts Ashlee evans-smith actually one of beating her he looks like a guy right up bro yeah and then when he became a woman he looked you know like definitely could saves a woman that dude lady but you know I was like the f*** out of here you're not specifically Napa take for sport but we all know that when a guy hits a girl in the street is a different vibe than when a girl hit the guy that's the problem is that's what the flights look like hitting a girl damn and also fighting people that aren't that skilled it's a low-level MMA promotion you know and then we came out there was all this outrage but what was really fascinating was how many people are mad at me but didn't have an equal amount of the word equally upset that woman was deceptive what you can about the fact that she was trans it's bad for the cause of transgender people it's very bad for the cause of you have a transgender woman that doesn't disclose she's transgender and is beating the f*** out of biological women and here's the here's one of the big problems with It ultimately want to get f***** over our biological women in this whole race to be woke and including transgender women in female sports biological women of the ones getting f***** over these trans any world records and becoming world champions and it's you know it is this it's where the rubber meets the road between pragmatic objective people they're analyzing the all of the facts and people who want to stick with a woke ideology they don't want to hear it on the other side this is a big one that people are calling me out on the homophobia nothing but love for gay people nothing but love I love gay people but I make fun of them I make fun of me fun of my mom I'll make fun of you when you're here I'll make fun of you when you leave here before one of my most popular memes online isn't support gay marriage and it was it says if you if you hate gay marriage is because I wanted two reasons either you're dumb or you're secretly worried that dicks are delicious friend that has been shared f****** millions of times in fact I had a gay strong man in here and he was talking about candy was talking about illiteracy thought that wasn't he had seen that was one of the first exposures that he had to me yeah well it just looking for s*** that Pindi and that's all it's to marginalize him and it's also people that don't want anyone who's not woke to represent anything on the left you were going to be on the left there's a lot of people been overwhelming and really heartwarming from made from great comics and scientists and people that have held the podcast Psychology today wrote an article about how the media is gas-lighting you on me like they're like they're trying to pay this guy out to be this monster like how I said stupid s*** 100% I've done 1,400 plus podcast a lot of them high like a giant percentage of I said a bunch of stupid s*** I could even believe while saying it I'd like to say inappropriate work I do it all the time because it's fun I like I like staying where you're not supposed to say sometimes but it doesn't mean I'm homophobic or love everybody like literally if you're a nice person I love you cool with everybody the way they want it to be true and a guy down it feels more like vindictive and it hurt you than it does let's save the world it's more like if you go I'm actually not I would ever lose a couple things going on one this podcast gotten way too big and it actually can influence elections about it it's all changing it's all silly I would love if they revamped the system and made it so there was like a council of really smart people who get to decide on things completed hands carefully to play chess what to give up on he could have swayed the lack of any was in charge of s*** so he could make policies Hillary Clinton wouldn't believe in gay marriage still 2013 but it's not real it's that they're in their world they're giving up on the is take me down to make Bernie look bad because Bernie dare to post one of my videos in the meantime Bernie is search the number one the pole number one and number one for the first time in the bedding poles so it's like look I don't know if it's good or bad well it's like Chappelle everybody hates chapelli's the transphobic guy of the Year whatever he's won the Grammy three years in a row for best comedy album Andy just want the Mark Twain award so it's like we talked a big game we complained and bitched and moaned but I think the real ships out there well even more more telling when Rotten Tomatoes only what critics judge his special he had a 0% Rotten Tomatoes then when they let the general public do it jumped up to 99 by giant company now if you are part of a giant Mediacom between even have to say any names you have to make arrangements with political parties and candidates they will give you access to candidates but they in exchange they would like you to run certain stories do like you to cover things they would like you to not cover other things mean you're seeing this anti Bernie Sanders pushed across the board Hillary Clinton just came out and said that she thinks she nobody likes him I saw that what do you hate your old musically likes and she said that he's a career politician like that man were you involved in Industry before did you manufacture televisions that are in support of apples Warren that were trying to push the narrative the Bernie Sanders is sexist up that narrative, she said that he had said to her then we could never be president did you ever see that in exchange for the two of them were on CNN so this is what it's been for me just to watch all this play out but I just the first time I seen you rattle by the way I think all right get it but that's why if I feel if I look rattled but that's the positive thing has been the outpouring of support so many people against overwhelming support two negatives the ratios incredible so it's it's awesome well the good news is everyone who knows you likes you all the people were saying s*** I probably never met you or don't even listen to podcast this is the problem with human beings communicating through social media's with the worst way like Twitter or Sunday's the worst way to either know someone expressive him or show any compassion and no one this is one of the reasons why cancel culture is so right right cuz this is the best way to cancel somebody threw a tweet f*** you field of virtue signaling this insanely mediocre on talented comedians Michelle wolf or Michael Che and all this act Lee especially when the the leaked audio came out people at the most inappropriate s*** that's funny I feel as much guilt and shame and numbness you don't feel you don't feel any keyboard you don't feel anything I'm hoping that social media will evolve to something that you the people that somehow or another allow people to be more compassion to each other and maybe we'll just understand how to use it better understand and everybody is canceled right everybody choco-story Africa she was an Ambien and hope I don't get AIDS just kidding on white LOL that's a good tweet it's a good show it's a joke Le Mark Normand joke logically right but when you're on Ambien and your f****** liquored-up edit time we change the whole world will be on the air at the end of the day with all this this s*** it's my feelings about all this are it's it's interesting to see the the the hate Brigade come my way and it's interesting it's it's very heartwarming to see support yet it's also you know at the end of the day I forgot a giant body of work about what I am and what I've done people watch the Elon Musk interview they're not like that at all the homophobia inappropriate jokes yeah for sure you're swinging right you know how it is when we're doing worse or hit you to come your way a lot of them are high like I'm Goin In is race in the stupidest people that's just their grasping at straws I got nothing it's not real racism it's a joke these Brown is racism I get some s*** stirring up that was a crazy thing about the CNN articles like they put in all the isms all the isms and all the phobias and like

you know what I hate most amazing street fights is when the dude's head bounced off the concrete is one this is Puerto Rican dude and this other guy and the guy doesn't know how to fight the Puerto Rican dude does and you could see their standing from each other and she and girlfriend goals real life kicks in something some people are just fronting and they think they going to get away with it and then the other guys actually a boxer right and that was the case here that guy he threw an educated punched like he knew what he was doing and he caught that guy right in the jaw and he went out has had this thing blue shorts with the woven belt they were getting these brawls you big white motherfukers and they were just like kick him in the face when they're down I got soccer jaw broken Friday night brace you know people looking for fights and then they get a little bit of booze in them and you know they're mad because their girlfriends f****** some new guy and Electric the face while he's on the ground know is that not good that's a rage maybe he was beating the reason deeply closeted or something's going on there well it's like some men grow up getting their asses kicked like getting abused it's one of the things that I would notice in high school the kids that would want to fight all the time they were getting abused at home someone's been doing that are older brother or get bullied into the bully people back you know that expression hurt people hurt people and that's the thing that I hated the most about fighting was when I would knock someone out check them and then they would go down like that does not get enough I'm going to walk away like this always happens to do that they're letting you know like I know rice is this is the end yeah yeah I don't have to follow this up right back like you know harvesting well to think it's like when guys do do that they're letting you know like I know rice is this is the end yeah yeah I don't have to follow this up a feeling you get when you hit someone you see their eyes roll back like you know LOL but some guys are so sad

people are born male and female and having some boring ass f****** do trying to stick Smogon you yeah okay thanks made for each other. You guys deserve your naughty it's the really should both go into the woods and get eaten by Wolves true that's true but we got to be nice you know we should be nice we should be nice but sometimes I think it's just jeans like sometimes sometimes people just have knucklehead jeans Ruben 8000 lb of Watching Two and a Half Men that got a bowl of Cheetos and a beard like you're kind of a waste of life like no offense deserve life have a right to live but I'm out here trying to write jokes and I'm driving gig to gig of doing pies I'm going gay whatever it is at least I'm trying something least I am a little ambition you're moving you out there experiencing life something about like the world I hate myself I'm sorry activities they play sports to do things I think you got to do stuff with them too and also they have to see that you're doing yet Apparently one of the things that kids get out of you is that they see you live by example that's important totally and the flipside do I get selfish it's a good thing this fat cow sitting in a Barcalounger all night and you also feel better you know I'm home from a hard day of getting after it. see that fat slob center for the TV laughing really hard at Big Bang Theory okay buddy I'm f****** better than you ugly people are funny so a lot of ugly. And he got a brat they didn't study where kids are more trust ugly people less so it's not a woman who has terrible genetics and Chin's probably someone listening to right now and it's not a goddamn thing you can do about it is falling out your fingers add turkey neck gals go to work probably like that like normal self esteems you're not entitled to that the gym everyday all day walking through on squats with Meathead boring guys who are like I got to get some traps cuz I got no like you dumb workout guys and asteroids are there or that I mean but sometimes

who's all about an acid trip but everything you want to ride ride the ride at Disneyland ride of all time it's basically an acid trip remember one of times I did it and went through Disneyland high as f*** and I was on the rise like oh this is Winnie the Pooh's he's on acid guitar this mushrooms is talking cats and s*** know something happens during the ride and you go like when he goes into Winnie the Pooh goes into Dreamland I don't know what to go to the Dreamland it's you're basically on acid you going to an acid trip just and then I just really really this is just pretty everything's lights and yeah you're honest little f****** thing and you're in the little roller coaster ride to know here's Winnie and give me a little can you be boring is the worst trip ever and fell St honey in that like the way I think that's well there's that Nepal honey that psychedelic honey maybe that's what it is give me a little fast forward it is a little trip so find out what happens right before that Jamie something happens and look can tripping balls and then as the thing goes It goes black and then you see Winnie floating then boom you're in psychedelic land everything is weird and whacked out in the Box heads big tongues and everything is neon psychedelic colors in the world psychedelic things you're saying this is about as close to creating of some sort of a psychedelic hallucinogenic trip right in a kids ride as you can get away without getting arrested so Ayahuasca trip I think like actually predicted that you could recreate in the future with virtual reality it's psychedelic trip and it would have the same exact effect as a psychedelic trip because it would be able to show you the same visual you know they used to be on freaking was remember phone freaking there was a way that you could use a public pay phone and you got a device that would make a noise public pay phone right you press the button IP pppppppp but you would hold a thing up to the phone and it would go and would send a signal through sound in the phone would just open up for you so you could use it no quarter no quarter and you just start calling people always done somehow another through sound like you would mimic the sound the fold would make ordinarily got a right thanks is this it here follow this is exciting cuz I've always wanted to do it have you done it I have done DMT I have not done Ayahuasca but this looks a lot like DMT I've done DMT I've not done Ayahuasca but this looks a lot like the empty empty empty never mentioned it

you just do you know Whitney I do a little bit not well just like her ask her about the the DM that she got all real shows and stuff you should write a book about dick pics of people send you cuz there's not not a dozen it's doesn't really to send picture they do it to every girl look there is a f****** gigantic population of creepy dudes out there in the background and I thought mine and I was like so she sent you I'll look at this for a minute now they mean ass f****** coming everyone everything you name it baby it's not weird best resource oil and all the s*** I think the hot women in America it's up there it's pretty good but it's also there's a lot of Photoshop out there talking about these ladies doing cartoon work on their pictures kill my dream man girls like boys and boys like girls I want everybody to be happy you know I would hope that they're this case to I would hope that you know they can find someone who's nice to them and I would hope that they won't don't get bullshitted but I remember you you are a f****** coonhound back in the forties you know you know you know what it's like radio though they probably didn't even understand what how you got pregnant rats diseases killed you you got everybody died. Your hair fell out your nose rotted off your face yeah we have crazy diseases and no cure that's probably why the Bible steps in you know it's like they don't eat pork on Friday whatever it is elkanah yeah yeah I was reading this book about the wild west and they're talking about all the people that would get that had syphilis just they just all went to whorehouses and they all got sick

you have to work yeah man but I'll tell you something though not all of them. Most of them but some of the of the hardest-working people that I've ever seen in my life have been in the plan and I'm serious I mean working hard to make a living and support their families is there a universal Factor like when you talk about how they got involved in it is it the neighborhood is it people that they Family Guy people join the planet different reasons in some cases it's my grandfather was in the clan my daddy was in the clan so I'm in the clan in my kitchen I mean the plan it's a family tradition right passed down and when you are dealing with somebody with that kind of time that you know that generational thing it make it a little longer for them to come out it is hard to break family tradition write another reason why people join you take a depressed town like a coal mining town in West Virginia or Scranton Pennsylvania isn't that what people who are not racist they are hard workers they did call all their lives grandfather. Candice rugg they wouldn't know how to do it all in those big and Cole and they're happy that I'm making their paycheck if you and their family paying the rent whatever you're not concerned about people color their happy but then the company gets greedy and decided hey you know what we can we can save money make a lot more money if we lay off or out our employees and hire some of these of these immigrants were there legal or illegal 44 less than half of what we're paying our people right after they left these people and how are these people just came over to the country looking for work and and they pay the Nester nothing so now these white people who would never racist or out of a job did the bank is going to foreclose on the trailer or their house or whatever they can't put food on their table the Clancy's these things and the clan will come to a depressed down like that and hold it I said the blacks have the n-double-acp the Jews have the ADL you know nobody stands up for the white man but the clan come join us will get your job back you know that that was your job your job not going but you're gone and now some some Niger or some Spitz that your job you know why is that come join us so these people Cobra 25 years you know and I got laid off for no reason and something else is doing my job so what do I have to lose human application and they sign up so they're like you know coerced into this group they may be a little easier to come out you know we talked with them then a third reason why people join if somebody relocate to a town that is very Clan oriented lot of people live you do what you want to do business in that town you better simulate you know you join the local country club Local Chamber of Commerce and the local KKK so you know there's it was different reasons why people join and dependent again it'll depend upon how strong the ties are why they join can determine the longevity of there or their their hold on it what is the one that took you the longest to crack well I'll be honest with you I never set out to convert anybody and even though in the media it will say black musician Converse 200 klansman or at some other clan members I didn't confront anybody I don't even convert one of them I will say that I am the impetus for over 200 leaving the clan yeah I know I know that for a fact that people have told me Yaya. I'm out of because of you with Insight that but I did not convert them they converted themselves I gave them reason to think about their Direction in life and they thought about it and thought you know I need a better path and this is the way to go because what would happen would be this it's like when you when you believe in something some people just believe in a just because it's a sad person saying it like like in a weed we have a current president where no matter what he says something I believe he's all right and that any president really if you are a big fan no matter what you do what you say you have a base that's going to believe you so I would tell these people what I saw fault with what they were saying in their ideology I said well let me tell you why I think this is incorrect and I lay out the facts for them and then they now they did not I can see right there they go home and check it out and it rolls around their head and it began thinking you know Darryl does have a point but he's black is black but he does have a point but he's black so even though they know it's true they don't want to believe it cuz I'm black so that that cognitive dissonance thing going on so that they have a internal struggle and they had to make up their own mind do I continue living a lie cognitive dissonance then going on so that they have an internal struggle and they have to make up their own mind do I continue living a lie or do I turn my life around and if the truth

but check this out though our relationship would grow and grow and eventually mr. Kelly right here and he gave his robe give me his real cuz you no longer believes and what it stands for and how many years is it take that is how many years it take before you just by being around him and talking to him talk that that that's the hood and the lower portion here was called them the mask and members who want anonymity they don't want you to know they are they were just natural to detached by three snaps or velcro just remove it they don't care and the faces that picture visiting each other did he ever say I'm starting to think this is b******* how did he say it called me up one day and he told me he talked to you about he did a smart thing you did a good thing he didn't hand it down he shut it down wow yeah you know any convince the other people in the clan that or they have the choice to do whatever they want to do a lot of them left a lot of those who try to keep it going but you know but failed to use you as an example I hate maybe I'm receiving some hate mail from from some of his own members anonymously the same kind of hate mail that it one time he would send out the people my numbers would not going back to him you know you're in bed with Daryl Davis you're a Niger lover all that kind of stuff unsigned and of the same stuff that he would put out other people and so he be he began seeing himself in the mirror and crucial many times with different people what is the process do when like when you talkin about like the Charles Murray stuff the bell curve stuff how do you refute that what are you saying to him and I want and I want to prove that my car is better than Chevrolet then I'm going to find a Chevrolet that isn't that doesn't run very well you know I'm going to do it that way so I refute it mr. Mary's and and his his partner but you guys wrote the book they are there documentation and and and see they they they go by things that they can see and understand I'm going to give me an example of something help you understand the Cyclops was riding around in my car one day with me he's sitting in my passenger seat right we're driving I'm driving along and somehow we got on the topic of a black crime and he made a statement he said well you know in a we all know they say that again that Vape Authority say that black people have a gene in them that makes them and I heard that before Mother clam people that's one of the narrative and you know the Wild Black Savage, thing and he said he was someone else live there but I'm leaving very high crime written by people but that's what lives there I said who's doing all the crime in Bangor Maine white people because that's what lives there I said you know you're not even considering the demographics how do you explain that this man did not wait one second he answered me like that he said you were translating hasn't come out yet somebody who's that far enough feel right I didn't say that all white people have a gene that makes them a serial killer is that how you figure that I said name me three black serial killers he couldn't do it either here I'm going to give you one I mean one for him I think you're just just met me to he couldn't do it I said Charles Manson Jeffrey Dahmer Henry Lee Lucas John Wayne Gacy Albert desalvo The Boston Strangler Bundy David Berkowitz Son of Sam at game me to say that about you and what you said about me and you got very quiet but I mean you could almost see a joke this will go on your zeni-ya and now he's thinking about it and then he changed the subject but within 4-5 months he left the clan based on that conversation and his robe was it very first robot ever got is he called me and I was in that area and the NICU when you want to get together and I got together with them anyway to go over to the courthouse for something how you been something to trouble will go pick up something the courthouse so I gave him a ride over there and he told me he was he was going to quit the clan you know and he thought a lot about what I said and I said what you going to do with your stuff the trash it I said I said no. and all my class. And I said yeah he goes why would you want that I didn't know why but something told me just take it down just take it so I never been in a parking lot and I took the one in and I'm walking up the stairs with him to the apartment I'm thinking no I hope I'm not getting set up here you know but I walked on in and his fiance was sitting on the couch classroom and I've seen it before and side down talk with her a new one down the hall to this room and came back with it we came back you got a hefty trash bag went back there again and came back with this trash bag all loaded up I just rode his Hood climbing belt buckle membership stuff in this bad and gave it to me and I said okay thank you now and I didn't know why I wanted it but I just knew I should have it well first of all is history okay and you don't destroy history The Good the Bad the Ugly in the shameful is still American history and the KKK have said it before is as American As baseball apple pie and Chevrolet and is a single part of our history these are just another West now I know what I'm doing the stuff I got my 501 c 3 I'm going to have a museum one day and put all the stuff in there why what's a 501 c 3 tax-exempt this is a grand dragon robe green is the sign for the Grand Dragon and which is arrivals when I first heard of Bobwhite I was in my late teens and he heard about it on the news he had been busted arrested and put in jail for conspiring to bomb a synagogue in Baltimore up on Liberty Road delivery Rose a synagogue and he was convicted and went to prison before years after doing his time continued one of the clan and then some years later you got busted again assault with intent to murder two black men with a shotgun right now understand something as a plan leader you don't make any money or not allow us to embezzling money from the dues a lot of people do that that's what causes he's running groups if you're a leader like a wizard or Dragon you might get small stipend out of the Jews but not enough to pay your rent and put food on your table so you have to have a regular job yo Cyclops wizard dragon whatever is all just titles like Boy Scout leader you have to have a regular job to pay your rent and mortgage this man's regular job when he was doing all this nonsense bombing places and stuff Baltimore City police officer yeah he was not an undercover cop in the Clan Gathering intelligence was a bona fide klansman on the Baltimore City police force okay and they're more than more okay but he went on this guy was anti-semitic and racist and very very violent but he went on to become one of my best friends and he gave me his Klan robe police uniform electric all over the country and stuff he quit the police force he was forced to quit the police force or be fired the police force Baltimore City police force and the year they had a consent decree from the Department of Justice against them they are very racist and very corrupt what they would do is they would turn a blind eye to The Clansman on the force cuz you know as a police officer you're not allowed to two-person groups a blind eye as long as the guys would not bring unwanted attention to the to the department and I just keep keep your stuff you know whatever well if you would end up getting busted for the planting a bomb near synagogues and in the shop. publicity this is before he left the clan yeah so what did he do after you did that you had to get another job on kitchens pbn dealing in a homing pigeons Oculus way to transmit information that's perfect

so I just had a good time in a nobody got hurt everybody laughed and I thank them for their hands and they told me to keep in touch so the laughter and then did the conversation loosen them to the things he was saying like yeah absolutely but of course if you find a 30 is it in the other direction when something's wrong with them and I gave him the Bible show me where so I couldn't know the exact chapter and verse in Leviticus a paraphrase and I read it and said something to the effect of a lamb's and not lay with the wolf if it wants to live same species two different colors so so empanadas gun a toilet on its 10 days and time and so do some of my friends some other white friends just like let them know in advance sometimes say when they come over this year Grand wizard of the Nighthawk well or a dragon is your dragon or Wizard and I want to stop at some plan rally on my way to for gigs Jesus Christ so you just became a full-time how much how quickly so you obviously had some you were compelled almost obsessed to meet this guy and get to the bottom of this thing that have been bothering you since you was years old because my relationship with him was really growing is turning into a friendship I mean I genuinely like this guy and I can see him beginning to like me a lot I did not like his ideology but I saw him at the humanity in him and he was seeing the same thing in me.we we both want the same things alright to me so I would not talk to me someone to fight me I read I read the whole gamut and I put it all in my book now I was seeing Fortinos like 2 years out of my house or we go out and have lunch or dinner together and but during those two years and by the end of two years he was coming to my house by himself known I talk you drive on down right and by the end of two years he had not invited me to his house you know after two years he got promoted from Grand Dragon State leader to Imperial wizard national leader at that point he begin invited me to his house while he was the man in charge right so I go to your house and then we have his plan meetings at the house while you're in a room find flag across it has that big red circle with white cross blood drop and they have a candle things like that and a and a cross in the cross has them either candles on it looks like a flame or light bulbs so anyway and a sword Laying across the table notes and then he began invited me to klan rallies yeah yeah and it had this big wooden cross Wooden Crosses wrapped in burlap the bird that has been soaked and what they call Clan cologne which is actually diesel fuel oil kerosene and the plants minute plans women are all in their robes and hoods and they have to have these torches in the Torches are lit and they walk in a big wide circle around this cross which is in the center and then either the wizard of the Grand Dragon what will shout. In place and face the cross in the wall turn in and basically the Inner Circle and then he'll say for my God and they all would be for my God and bow for my race for my race for my country for my country for my clan for my clan white power wipe our clans were the first across and they all close in another already at the base of the Cross plant sunlight to grow drop the torches at the foot of the cross and wish this thing is a flame and they stand there and admire this Burning cross and then they give some speeches from the podium and they have hot dogs and hamburgers in the rally is that where you know and I'm watching this I'm taking pictures taking notes and these books so you know I mean I know that's what they do it burn crosses that I learned there two times two occasions upon which they set the cross the flame as they put it they have a cross burning and a cross lighting the difference being across burning is when they take a 5 or 10 foot cross wrapping that burlaps open kerosene and and put it in your lawn because your interracial couple you're gay she was in a white neighborhood whatever the deal is that is meant as as intimidation this morning we know who you are cease-and-desist move out if you don't next time we come we mean business and I was in a bomb your house or something okay what they do that that's called a cross burning right across lighting is what they do of a 30 or 20 or 30 foot cross at a ceremony and they parade around in a cross lighting that's what you want to how often they do those things as often as a 100 times a year and what do they talk about like when they have meeting the future of the white race and what they want and what the Constitution guarantees them this man was built by white people the Constitution was signed by white white white men this is their country you know immigration whatever the issues are that the Browning of America is it was a big topic or or white genocide the Browning of America is it was a big topic or or white genocide same thing I'm going to see if I genocide they mean the erase is getting smaller through miscegenation

iRig story I saw a thing about you on NPR and is crazy you've converted how many people 200 KKK members got them to drop their robes like some directly some indirectly yes, that'll happen wow continue playing on playing music in Frederick Maryland white bar am I say all white I don't mean that blacks can go in when I mean is that the Blatz chose not to go and they weren't welcome and I here I wasn't this bar with this country band friend of mine's man I was only black guy in the van only black guy in the bar add Upon finishing the first set this I'm walking into the band table and somebody came up with their arm around my shoulder after I asked you what was in my journal and maybe 15 18 years older than me and he says yeah I just joined the band and he said well man I really like your piano playing this is the first time I've ever heard a black man play piano like Jerry Lee Lewis and I wasn't I wasn't offended but I'd rather surprised because I thought maybe 15 years older than me. No blues and Boogie Woogie piano players with the guy was incredulous on IG really invented that I never heard no black man play like that just for you something okay with this this guy never heard of Little Richard or Fats Domino and look man I know Jerry Lee Lewis's friend of mine told me himself but it was so fascinated that he want to buy me a drink go back to the stable out of cranberry juice and then he announces this is the first time I've ever sat down had a dream with a black man and now I'm I know it was incredulous like how can that be you know I've sat down with thousands of white people anybody else had a meal a beverage a conversation how was it this guy had never done that and innocently I asked him why he didn't answer me and I asked him again and his buddy Misty and elbowed him in the side I said tell him tell him tell him to tell me well I burst out laughing Supremacy white supremacy the KKK and Nazis the neo-nazis understand this mentality and I knew a klansman would not come up and just throw his arm around some black guy Shoulder imprezas talent when I get to hang out with him buy me a drink around so I'm laughing and he goes about his pocket and pulled out his wallet and producer and I recognized for your clan Insignia which is a red circle with a white cross and a red blood drop in the center of the Cross and I realize oh man this thing's for real so I stopped laughing and wasn't funny anymore and I give it back to him and we chatted about the clan and different things but the dude gave me his phone number and want me to call him whenever I was returned to this bar so he can bring his Friends Meeting fly when is women to see this black guy. Really I'm not sure you call me a black eye to a friend's brother it's right the game in street clothes and on the break I would go to the stable say hello some of them were very curious and hang out there and want to meet me and talk to me or see me coming and get up and take off and do it stands for the part of the room where is like I just want to see you I don't want to deal with you so that was fine and I decided later on I would write a book because I've been looking for an answer formed when I was h10 my question was how can you hate me when you don't even know me and this was a result of having March in a Cub Scout parade at the age of 10 being the only black Scout in to supper Aid and why most people on the streets and sidewalks with cheering us yeah we're marching from Lexington to Concord Massachusetts to commemorate the ride of Paul Revere if you want waving flags and yelling and screaming the British are coming in all of the time except for one small pocket of people who were throwing rocks and bottles at me and at age 10 my first thought was oh those people over there don't like the scouts are not easy but was it was until my Den mother of my tub Master my troop leader all came rushing over and huddled over move their bodies is white people squirting me out of the danger but I realize I was only target cuz nobody else was getting his protection and these were adults are these rather chill these were a couple is maybe about 5 people I'm going to get me a couple of kids making my age is a year older adults adults were throwing rocks and bottles at a ten-year-old boy correct wow the number to find out what did I do you know what why they're doing this to me I think it was no suction me tell me to hurry up move along to be okay so they never answer the question is why this is happening when I got home that day after this parade my mother and father who would not there or premature Chrome and Band-Aids on me and asked me how did I fall down and get all scraped up I took out in fall down I told her exactly what it happened and for the first time in my life my mom and dad sat me down and explain to me what racism was at the age of 10 I never heard the term racism now was serviced every two years come back home for a few months and then you get reassigned to another so when I was overseas and Elementary School my classes were filled with kids from all over the world anybody who had an embassy in those countries all US Embassy kids went to the same school my class was full of kids from Nigeria Italy France Germany Japan Russia you name it if you were to open the door to my classroom and stick your head in you will say this was like United Nations of little kids cuz that's exactly what it was we all have long then I would come home after that to your assignment and I would be in either all black schools or all white schools I start all black shoes or all black and white schools meaning being still segregated for the newly integrated schools and there was not the amount of diversity in my classroom that I had over seas the day you walk into a classroom you know you can't tell from the mall over so literally between 1961 and like 1968 1970 I was living about 12 years into the future when I was living overseas because that that Multicultural seen have yet to come to this country and want to do the course I was already prepared unfortunately my fears were not so and not taking this path so I was very curious about it and fascinated with it like hopping somebody hit you and you don't even know you was just beyond my comprehension and I knew something was wrong because the people who did this to me did not look any different than my little French friends my Swedish friend or my fellow Americans in the embassy or for that matter my fellow Americans right there you know whoever at the school where I went to the March so I knew it wasn't a color thing in fact when my parents told me this I did not believe my parents I thought for some reason my parents are lying to me cuz my ten-year-old brain could not process the idea that someone would never seen me had never spoken to me and you know nothing about me would want to inflict pain upon me for no other reason than the color of my skin so I do not believe them well a month-and-a-half later that same year on April 4th Martin Luther King was assassinated and I remember it very well we were in Massachusetts same place and nearby Boston Washington DC My Hometown Chicago Illinois Philadelphia Detroit Baltimore Richmond La all burned to the ground with violence and destruction all in the name of this new word that I learned call racism and so they I realized my parents were told me the truth this phenomenon called racism does exist but why I don't understand why I'll guess it was here but why and so that's when I found that question how can you hate me you don't even know me and so I've been looking for the answer to that question now for 51 years I must have 20 years old so after I met this klansman new 3-4 months later I put that band and went back to playing rock and roll and blues and R&B and then it dawned on me Daryl you know the answer that you've been seeking since age ten fell right into your lap who better to ask that question of how can you hate me we don't even know me then to ask if of somebody who would go so far as to join an organization whose Apprentice has been hating people who do not look like them I do not believe is they believe and its organization has been around for over a hundred years somebody would go that far to join the KKK should damn sure have an answer to your question so get back in time tack with that guy ratifications talking to a klansman or interviewing them I would have easier access or could join the clan undercover get the story get out and write about it so my book became the first book ever written by black author on the Food Plus plan for the perspective of sitting down face-to-face I decided I would go around the country interview Flanders there in Maryland where I live up north down South Midwest and West and I so I got a hold of that guy and I want him to introduce me to cook family therefore Maryland what was his reaction when I'm when I go to my I want to know what makes you guys Tik Tok why you doing this Barton silver dollar lounge and I called it's like months later and it would have been disconnected so I can track him down turned out again moved you never phone probably would get an address and so I have no way of knowing you know letting you know I might come over and talk to you so I should Rebecca's apartment one evening and knock on the door and I didn't see the gyno while right you probably know what you doing here I looked up and down the hallway see if I brought anybody with me and Emily stepped out of his apartment I stepped in so we turn around comes back in those what's going on you still playing what's going on I said yeah I'm playing but I need to talk to you with the plan so the plan I said yeah you remember right it was well I was but I quit anyone into this long dissertation that's the white with the plan so long story short I said I want to beat the clan neither did he quit the clan interaction with you no not no actually he lied to me yes he was no longer in the clan but what happened was he said he quit because he didn't he didn't like their birthday or ideology I later found out in my research that and I got this from the guy who banished him that you delete her about that particular claim group vanished like they are ideology I later found out in my research that and I got this from the guy who banished him being the leader of that particular Clan group vanished

Liberty Mutual in the hierarchy of the plant okay okay today there's no such thing as the Ku Klux Klan there used to be there today there aren't many who cuts playing groups and they all are autonomous that use the same name two bucks plan you might have the Dixie Knights of the Ku Klux Klan the Confederate Knights of the Ku Klux Klan the rebel Knights on and on these are all separate two bucks playing groups they believe in the same ideology they wear the same colors on their robes that designate their rank they have the same stupid hand Trick The Flame the secret handshake in 1865 at the end of the Civil War and it was formed by a by 6 Confederate soldiers who were of Irish and Scottish descent and what they did was they borrowed the the rituals or similar rituals and names and a mystery from the Scottish Rite the Masons grandison are they exactly said over the years Central split apart in the different groups of plan so and they all are Rivals with each other if you see a couple different plan routes out in public they will hold a unified front but behind closed doors they don't like each other really yeah somebody embezzled from plan dues or didn't get promoted you know whatever so anyway if you have a chapter of your particular plan route in another state or in multiple States you may then consider yourself or your group to be a national claim group therefore you must have a national leader who oversees all the states in which you have a chapter of your particular group so we call our national leader the president and Clan terminology that person is known as the Imperial wizard anybody who is who is prefix with the word Imperial is that person is a national officer wizard being the top I so if you're a wizard like a president and Imperial playlist would like a vice president and he have secretaries treasurer's whole nine yards and then the next level down would be State the head of the state which we talked about that person is known as a grand Dragon everybody Grand is on the state level State officer Dragon be the top Governor a grande playlist will be like a lieutenant governor and then secretary-treasurer and then within the state you have counties the county leader is known as the great Titan anybody on the great level isn't on the county level within the county you have districts with a call klaverns and we will call a council Menaul a councilman Alderman that individuals known as they are as an exalted cyclops

I want you to meet the starting Maryland where I live I want start with the claim that if America could have several different plant groups in the same state and they are Rivals with each other and you have chapters of those same things with interstate so this guy named Rodger Kelly was the Grand Dragon for the state of Maryland for this guy's Landreth and Rodger Kelly the time had the largest clam proof in Maryland how many members they don't give out numbers but the Rodger had probably just over 200 for which is a very high number for that time. Sometimes it's only only have 10 members some you know they have an internet presence was only one God sending his basement putting out something anyway this guy both get in trouble anymore is it doesn't matter I cannot take a black man to the Grand Dragon so he was concerned for my safety as well as why don't you give me his address and phone number and I will go to his house and talk to him and he would not do that I begged and pleaded for 20 minutes he finally gave me mr. Kelly's address and phone number wow on the condition that I not tell mr. Kelly wear got it and I'm I said okay and he warned me to Daryl for the clan but that was one of their headquarters you know Thurmont Maryland because it's also , Camp David the presidential Retreat and and the headquarters for the class right there right down the road that's hilarious white town anytime a black person moved in or interracial couple or gay couple somehow mysteriously across if you burn in the yard and boom they move right out now that is not that does not mean that every person in Thurmont is in the clan because they're not in fact most white people up there one of the clan but that's where it was headquartered so nice it was a bar up there where they hang out every Saturday night and about if I go to that bar I'm sure to find Rodger Kelly and you left your out-of-town routing somewhere he says by don't guarantee you that Rodger will even talk to you but you're safer to approach him in a public place then Corners property did he give you a photograph of you find it I never met him but I knew you know his image so he drove me a little map how to get to this place after it's laid off and do not do not own property as a ride so I and I'm a musician gecko gecko chasing the clan on Saturday nights at the hobby profession I told my secretary who books my band I said you know do I have any Sundays off I figured Sunday still part of the weekend maybe hands and she's white not that I have a problem with that man walking with white women wanting your Clam Bar could be boring behind me if I turn around and face you start running and I'll be behind you and she says alright let's go so we walk in about 7:30 on a Sunday evening but it was practically empty I would say maybe no more than six or seven people in their couple guys in the back playing pool a diet you sitting at the bar and the guy told me this was a clam bar and we met by Clam Bar is the plan doesn't own it I doubt that he described it to me then when you walk in the door to your left will be a row of booths and the first to Boos closest to the door when you come in or reserved for the clan so over there and nobody was sitting there so I'm looking around see if I recognized plan but I should you know what an end to my right a Long Bar behind the bar was a mirror and Scotch tape to the mirror was a picture and article from The Washington Post newspaper had a picture of Rodger Kelly that interviewed him about something the nwacp was doing them over some kind of cross burning ceremony or something and I recognize the article I said wow is a big Confederate flag on the back wall like you have the US flag right there do I knew I was in the right place or the wrong place. But I won't look at it right so I didn't see anybody look like Rodger Kelly I feel you know I drove an hour and a half to get up here again I don't want to go home empty-handed but I didn't want to just walk up somebody's ass cancer you in the plan so I said, Mary let's go over there and sit in one of those first two payments because if the plan is in here they will come to us and then we'll know and then we can ask them hey we want to see Rodger Kelly so much that down nobody bothered so then was cool eventually we migrated over the bar I chatted up the guy sitting next to me like I was lost in sin directions very nice give me directions we failed so we laugh the next morning Mary what kind of my house I gave a Rodger Kelly's number Monday morning I should give him a call I said tell him that you're working for somebody who's writing a book on the clan will he consent to sitting down with your boss and giving him an interview however do not tell mr. Kelly but I'm glad if you ask no don't lie to him but don't Lulu to it don't give me reason to be curious to understood I did not want him to know that was a I figured if you knew that him and I can do the interview but if you agree to do the interview then obviously it would see that I'm blocked me when he meets me that you decided right then and there if you want to continue it or not but I want him to see me first and secondly if you could do the interview knowing that I was black he may have different answers prepared did you have for a white interviewer that's supposed to apply him if you are so I want to be spontaneous candid so she understood and that she called him and he agreed to do the interview so we set it up for the motel above the silver dollar Lounge at the in Frederick Maryland at 5:15 on a Sunday afternoon and Mary and I got there are several hours early I gave her some money center Deborah Hall how to get dust out of the machine put in the ice bucket filled with Ice Cube real cold so I offered average cold beverage I have no idea what this man would do once you laid eyes on me so that I was black when you come in the room where you attack me or you walk away and I know but in the event I want to be hospitable so she got the soda pop with nice buckets that on the dresser now just by happenstance the way the room is laid out if you are standing in the hallway in the doorway of of the room looking into the room you cannot see who's in the room if they literally walk in the door and turn to your right and the room is laid out back there so there's no way you can know who's in the room standing in the hallway and so I took advantage of that I took the lamp table to the lamp off and put it in the most obscure corner of the room and I put a chair on one side for me and a chair on there mr. Kelly and I have a little bad beside me like duffle bag and in my bag I had a cassette recorder blank cassette tapes and copy of the Bible because the Ku Klux Klan claims to be a Christian organization and they claim that the Bible preaches racial separation now I've read the Bible I've never seen that in there so I wouldn't be able to pull up my Bible when he brings it up and said he was the Kelly show King James version chapter and verse where it says blacks and whites must be separate so I'm not prepared right right on time at 5:15 knock on the door I've see the day where you can't see me if you come in the room Mary hops up and by the way Mary White and before so she goes around the corner open the door and walks what is known as The Grand Nighthawk inflated terminology music bodyguard security so a grand Nighthawk names is so ridiculous cyclops's dragons and Wizards play camouflage on one side of his chest is that Clan Emblem that red circle white cross blood drop on the other side of the initials KKK and embroidered on his Paredes at Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and on the ship he had a semi-automatic handgun in a holster he comes in and mr. Kelly is walking directly behind him in a dark blue suit and tie and when the Nighthawk turn the corner and saw me he just mr. Not realize that his nighthawking stop short and he slammed into his back and knock them forward and so they're stumbling around regaining their balance and looking all around the room and I'm just watching them and I just see the apprehension in their faces has SSA hey I'm an armed and I walked forward I stuck at my right hand I said hi mr. Kelly I'm Daryl Davis and he shook my hand he shook my hand and The Nighthawks with my hand so so far so good I'm doing I'm doing well do you have any form of identification as a sure I forgot my wallet and I handed him my driver's license 230 goes you live on 2nd and Silver Spring why is this man reading my street address all you have to do is look at my name look at my picture match it up to me and give me back my license. Like looking at my address is she going to come what's up so I did not want to let him know that he had you know unnerved the other woman I want to let him know under no circumstances are you to come to my house Uninvited with any Dino nefarious intentions so I said to him I said yes mr. Kelly that is where I live and you live at and I named his house number and histories know that the guy getting me that way I was implying hey you know you know where I live I know where you if you come visit me I'm going to come visit you so it will show you know we're going to confine all this visiting to this motel room so he smiled he nodded his head like he understood and I did not find out that day it was several months down the road that I've been presumptuous I had no reason to fear mr. Kelly coming to my house to do anything stupid what happened was one of his clan members lived right road from me I didn't know that I missed you Kelly would have to travel down my my street to get into that neighborhood where is my member live decently recognize the name of the street that was it you were going so he wasn't trying to threaten you no not at all not at all so today that same plan member is in a federal prison will be there for a long time he he he would later commit a crime which landed in the federal penitentiary so i n e we got on his interview and within 10 minutes mr. Let me know why you hate people like like me black people are inferior we're prone to Crime there we were criminals that is why there are more blacks in prison than whites now that's a half-truth there are indeed more blacks in prison than white people if not like you said it's because of iniquity in our Judicial System we're whites in the same predicament either don't get the same jail time or don't go to jail or whatever anyway so you know and also this book bell curve I just recently come out and Marie you know the one I'm sitting there listen to this guy tell me that I'm a criminal and I'm lazy and on welfare and my brain is smaller than his what he was saying was Indy defensive but here's a difference between me and most of the people I did not take offense to it I'll tell you why I not take offense to it why should I be offended by somebody who knows nothing about me the only met me 10 minutes ago he sees the color of my skin and its neighbors assessment so why should I take offense to somebody who's telling a lie I just want to roll on with it when did you develop this kind of clarity but it's very unusual to not be offended when someones judging you instantly and saying disparaging things about everyone that looks anything like you just right off the cuff freely right in front of you how did you develop this Clarity to this not be offended by that because it didn't make sense what he was saying of course so I figure you know how I be offended by somebody who's who's all twisted Ryan you know obviously doesn't have the the foresight to see that he's wrong I want to learn more about this which is coming from man and so now see that's what stops a conversation and then and then people get it to come back yes you know and that it goes nowhere so I was send it along with it and then when he's finished you know and he was most proud of you explain to me in a wide stance I still get what I mean with you I don't have a criminal record I have never been on welfare I've never measured my brain but I'm sure it's the same size as anybody else's whatever go on well right I reach down into my bag of fresh to set orbit sicario pound the table mr. Davis the Bible says I reach down Pull up the Bible every time I reach down like this you get the Bible or the cassette out of the bag me a Nighthawk up onto his head right now well yeah but you know I realize that these people are afraid of me okay so you know I had to be flown out for you then so I'd be cool but be transparent all right so and a cop tells you to get your license or whatever and you listen to do is in the glove box and you reach he gets a little more tighter on the town he's protecting himself so now. Was doing that and I got that so it was kept happening and after a while he realized it was no threat in the bag and I went in and out of the bag and I talked didn't move he was relaxed just over an hour interview there was a sudden a very quick I'm in less than a second noise in the room when that was it and it happened so fast out of nowhere that my ear could not discern what it was I just came out of the blue and I'm sitting closer than you and I are right now the tables smaller than mr. Kelly and I talked with was here and there and I my chair at the table because my ear could not discern what the noise was I perceived it to be an ominous threatening noise and I knew I knew for a fact that mr. Kelly had made this noise where did it come from why do you make it and how did I know that he made it I knew that because I didn't make it so you know if you if you don't want to accept responsibility or you know you're not responsible what do you do you assign blame night and so I slipped out of my chair hit the table and my mind was racing what did I just did what did I just say to cause this to Kelly to go off and make some threatening noise you know I instantly put everything in perspective we're enemies he's ahead of the clan I'm a black guy and now you know and then I heard that voice in my head Darrell do not fool with Rodger Kelly he will kill you so I don't want to die and in that Split Second I have gone into survival mode and when you fear for your life that's what you do what was that noise and actually hit the table well when you fear for your life as I said you know you do into survival mode and in survival mode you know you're only lonely do like one of four things some people they just pass out if they ain't because of fear is so great their brain cannot process it and it shuts down and then pass out other people there are there muscles contracted to get tense and they can't move and you can be punching and kicking them and then one of them put in the blows there are constricted that's called paralysis by fear that you're too afraid to move the Third Bank people would do is just run away from whoever's of the fear is and that is your best option when something scares you that bad take off separate yourself as quickly as you can from that feeder with as much distance between you and the theaters you can and that would have been my choice had it been an option but it was not an option for me because you cannot outrun a bullet in a motel room right so I was not armed my secretary was not armed the only person who I knew for sure it was armed with a Nighthawk and you can see his gun right there and I didn't know if if mr. Kelly had a weapon up under his suit jacket or not all I knew was I don't want to die today so I chose the fourth option which was to do a preemptive strike you get them before they get you so when I fell out of my chair I was like. I'll go to grab mr. Kelly grab the night off and slamming down to the ground and take away the Nighthawks gunwale oh it was going to happen that quickly fast son as a little too fast but I'm glad I hit the table cuz I'm looking right into his eyes trying to figure out like what did you do I didn't say one word to this guy but my eyes have locked with his eyes and hear my eyes I was shouting at him saying what did you just do well his eyes had fixated on my eyes it is a word either but I can read his eyes is not sending me what did you just do and then cuz we're No More Tears and she realize what it happened explaining it to us when it happened again the ice in the ice bucket has begun to melt on Jesus and the cans shifted them it wasn't just like a normal right now to be like I was just on edge absolutely I'm sitting there before me and in that hour is the tension in the detentions not being alleviated at all he's explaining everything to you easy telling you his theories you're being very calm and just letting him speak yeah but you are still so on edge just being across from this guy that that sound right because it came out of nowhere you know it came out of nowhere and I mean yeah you know the detention had had had be escalated all that kind of stuff as as we got more into the hour but I think you know we each world where you know this is not a normal situation yeah you know black kind of clan leader so each one was still a little weary of the other kind of thing but we were mutually respectful so then it happened again and we began laughing we began laughing all of us and how ignorant we had all been I won't say that this was a learning moment but it was a teaching moment and the running will come later the the what what was taught was this all because some foreign Thunder score highlight circle the word foreign entity of which we were ignorant that being the bucket of ice can of soda entered into our little comfort zone via the noise that it made we became fearful and accusatory of each other so the lesson taught it is ignorance breeds fear we should go since we don't understand all right if you do not keep that fear and check that fear turn will escalate and breed hatred because we hate those things that frighten us if you don't check that hatred it intern will escalate and breed destruction we want to destroy those things that we hate why because they frighten us but guess what they may have been harmless and we were just ignorant and we saw the whole chain unravel 2 almost completion the last component being destruction the stopped short of that have I passed across the table and hurt one of them or have a Night Hawk drone his gunshot one of us you know that that would mean the destruction fortunately I did not happen we did see that that whole chain unravel 2 completion 3 years ago on August 12th 2017 in Charlottesville Virginia they would just like 2 hours from my house on August 12th 2017 in Charlottesville Virginia there was a lot of ignorance in Charlottesville there was a lot of fear in Charlottesville there was a lot of hatred and Charlottesville and what did it culminated in it culminated in destruction when a white supremacist got inside his vehicle and drove full force into a crowd of counter-protesters trying to murder them he succeeded a ninja 20 and I am murdering a young lady named Heather heyer so that that whole chain is there if you want to solve this problem of racism we need to stop focusing on the symptoms don't worry about the fear don't worry about the hatred those symptoms by putting a Band-Aid on cancer you got to go down to the bone and treat it at its source the source of all this is ignorance parents can be cured ignorance is called education so you could see ignorance there's nothing to fear but you fear what you don't know when you killed it ignorance you know something is nothing to fear if there's nothing to fear then there's nothing to hate if there's something to hate there's nothing to destroy so we need to focus on the ignorance and we address it with exposure and education and conversation Bossier and education and conversation we spend way too much time in this country talking about the other person talking at the other person talking past the other person when I just spend a little bit of time talking with the other person

when they track racism over the last 100 years it's at a decline it's at a measurable decline but not enough what could be done to accelerate that decline what do you think can be done to sort of start start teaching students in elementary school and high school by Civics what do you mean exactly our country is so diverse now we need to learn about the history of everybody in our country and everybody's contributions to making this a great country white black Hispanic women whatever our our country is truly a Melting Pot and we and we need to treat it as such and give everybody credibility so you know this person you look different than me but he contributed something that I need out of different in hand but I can do something that he needs mutual respect for one another and Yoda Generations are going to die out but we have to stop them from proliferating their their BS to these younger Generations you know how we do this in schools where I went when I was in junior high school but didn't have any more right to have middle school now steps education was being introduced parents were freaking out oh my God I don't like it learning well guess what they don't want their kids going to school and learning about sex but yet these parents were not teaching your kid about sex at home either they don't they keep doing it if you don't let your teachers in school education properly and you're not willing to do it at home still don't learn it and where he where is he or she going to learn it out in the street and then what are you going to do when your kid comes home pregnant you going to be all freaked out so if you want to take said when I was in junior high school. It bring a note from your parents think it was okay yeah yeah okay and then you had like a little small class today is part of the regular curriculum kids today are better informed about venereal disease STDs Family Planning contraception and all these kinds of things because it didn't do no longer ignorant they have more information the same thing has the taboo on sex education has been lifted okay we need to lift the taboo on on on racism in schools and talk about it an early age how much time are they allocating towards teaching people how to accept diverse groups and how to accept that how to fight against racism I mean is that something that's talk it seems like that should be a Core Curriculum in private where I see it is mostly in private schools I don't see in public schools which is very unfortunate parents parents seem to seem to run the schools you know if it's if your kid for Snapple you send your kid to school and you find out your kids not learning what you think you should learn what are you do you take him out of that school and put them in another school and so I'm about to schools are very low to to just step on eggshells with parents another year they don't want to upset the thing or whatever but they need to the parents are not the teachers the teachers are the teachers well it seems and if you could explain to kids how people get radicalized you get explain to kids how what happens online how they draw you in what's the appeal of being a part of a tribe and which is a big part of write a big part of his being like a gang run same thing that attracts kids to games like everybody's in it we're all together it's like it's in a tight group run yeah me that that's gets people in and when they draw you in like they did if the kids at all is that s*** they talked about in 7th grade I know what they're doing mean just a little I mean religious institutions which would include synagogues Etc and you know I hate to get down on the clergy but I'm telling you they they are they they have accountability but they're not accepting and don't get me wrong I'm a Christian all the time stuff on it and I was a deacon in my church at one time but here's the thing whether you're Jewish Catholic Protestant Mormon whatever you have some form of Sunday school after you get out of the indoor indoor facility New York New York church or Temple or whatever and your Sunday school lesson it when your for 5 years old they teach you that we're all God's children God made a rainbow right and we accept that it for 5 years old and then as we grow older we can puberty and Adolescence whatever we move upstairs to the big congregation and I were sitting up there with the adults the the clergy the rabbis the minister the pastor the Rev whatever whatever no longer teaches that Sunday school lesson they stop saying upstairs We're All God's Children what do you think would happen if the revenue the priests were said the congregation one Sunday morning right and because I have not been continued that that Sunday school lesson needs to be continued upstairs so adults feel heavy in a while a rainbow with all of God's children but the priest is not say that or the river did not say that anymore because he's afraid of walking on eggshells and then stopping the flow of money coming into ties and offering in that collection plate it would be changing churches or firing him right and then your kid is let's say let's say let's say I'm Catholic and now I'm in 12th grade and I'm going to senior prom so my mom says So So Def senior prom Susan Goldberg Rob. Children we are exactly but it's not a god word but it's a man word yes if we believe in the concept of God and we are to believe that God did not make any exceptions in butts and mistakes instead of little loopholes he was perfect for the word to go but is a manward it's an exception God was Perfection man is exception all right so that's what happened you know if so so that's why the clergy does not continue that Sunday school lesson there for you to lose any money in other words they put they put money above morality and they should be held accountable well it seems like there's a lot of problems it's not it's not one thing it's not just the clergy rochesterschools it certainly the parents in a circle but the parents were taught so it's the parents parents it's the continuing to the egg whites but what the bid to inherited want one of the most the most influential unless you're a piece of course the most influential Authority in your life is your church everybody of the church at the kid yeah unless you're a theist whatever so that that that weighs very heavily but how do you know if the atheist then how do you reach the atheist agnostic a lot of atheist and an agnostic have excellent morals a lot of them do their the O they have a church is called ethical societies and before you know they that they don't believe in God it was nothing that I advocate but I'm saying that you think they know right from wrong and you find less controversy and and and racism and more except and these places that's just about ethics and morality more so than division why you have a white Baptist Church and a black Baptist Church was that all about the Baptist Shelby Baptist it's the same King James Bible you know what you know why aren't they the same lesson in Sunday school that they preach upstairs they're not concerned about 5 year olds David rainbow you know why because of four and five-year-olds don't have any money so then I can send then I getting any money in the collection plate there it doesn't matter it matters where the money is you you say what you got to say to get the amount of money that you need. So you know I don't go to church so that's an alien concept to me but that's sad if that's the lesson if that's the way they're structuring their lessons in a church or synagogue or Temple that that's how they the structure structure in their lessons to achieve more donations to churches yeah we'll look at them priests and preachers get in trouble always seemed to me to be run by Cult leaders that are keeping it together they're just keeping it together staying within the structure of traditional Christian want to believe in something yes so why not believe in the clan when I believe Ryan CNN whatever yeah yeah yeah it's Tribal is we have this intense desire to stay tribal but we got to consider ourselves the tribe of the human race exactly the human race that can be taught to people I can yeah I think what you're what you're proving and what you're doing by your amazing accomplishments of showing that that even in the most radicalized of people the KKK and the National Socialist movement your can be taught people you can yeah I think what you're what you're proving and what you're doing by your amazing accomplishments is showing that that even in the most radicalized of people the KKK and the National Socialist movement your converted people

we claim to be the greatest nation on the face of this Earth I have a problem with that and don't get me wrong I'm a patriot I love my country but I do have a problem with that statement and I'll say that perhaps we are the greatest nation on the face of this Earth technologically after all we put a man on the moon we invented the technology to care that man to the Moon safely and allowed him to walk around get back in his lunar module and come back to earth safely we invented that technology not only that we was when when Neil Armstrong was up there walking around and made that famous one small step for man one giant leap for mankind quote we were able to talk with him live all the way from Earth NASA headquarters all the way to the to the Moon live via satellite radio phone we invented that technology Americans everybody you know has a cellphone everybody you know has email in a few words at a few numbers it send your talkin the people next door in Nevada or over in Africa China Australia where if you want to talk to anyone the face of this Earth we invented that technology so how is it that we as Americans can talk to people as far away as the moon or anywhere on the face of this Earth yet so many of us have difficulty talking to the American who lives right next door because he or she is a different color a different religion a different ethnicity a different persuasion a different whatever it seems to me that before we can call ourselves the greatest our ideology needs to catch up to our technology and you are so zap they're both of them up there then we can truly Brad about how great we are because we are living in the 21st century we are living in space h x yet they're still so many of us thinking with Stone Age Minds what is this doing in the 21st century what was it doing any Century but yet in 21st century you got to be kidding me it brings me back to what you were saying earlier that the problem is education the problem is ignorance right in the solution to education is ignorance and this is sort of the same thing when it comes to radicalizing young people online right the one of the reasons why that works at all is because he's young people are susceptible to other ideas because their intelligence immune system is very low they don't have a lot of data they don't have a lot of Education they don't have a lot of information and they don't have a lot of perspective so they can be stick be tricked the undie roped in and this is this is the same with everything this is the same with what you were talking about with not trusting your neighbor's cuz they're a different nationality or different color and not communicating with people that are any different than you and then being toxically tribal it's all kind of the same thing it's like there's a lack of understanding of what the consequences that are globally and in personally to your own life well again you know back to Mine mine's is going to help those young kids get to get those perspectives that will have people on there who are the experts and and stuck in those kids into into these are things I know a former jahadi a recruiter for Isis recruit kids to put him in ICU in the state's okay give him just scooped the guy from from the NSM he knew what to do with a national socialist so if you are willing to help on mines and help went out these different things you little telltale signs as to what they look for you know if so parents can you spot what's that doesn't sound right or it will it will it will apparently the people are really worried about people being radicalized online they're more concerned with that than anything else with video there's something about the compelling videos that are like the music in the video and yeah oh yeah the black population and this country was 12% 11.94% Native Americans just under 1% are Hispanic people Latino people doing 3% Asian 4% white people 84 86% so white people of the supremacist type mindset their biggest their biggest Nemesis of course we're black people at 12% too much I didn't care nothing about Native Americans did the attitude was I just 1% stitching on a reservation forget about him right and that's where these negative terms come from you know that don't realize or are insulting terms it when you say somebody is gone off the reservation that's not your cotton-picking business who pick cotton right okay so the biggest Nemesis if they were out that supremacist mindset were black people what percent is too much right now today black people will remain at 12% would not run for 2016-2017 senses we have not grown 12% Native Americans are still at 1% Asians are at 6% Hispanics have surpassed us then I get 13% or something so let's just take 12% black 13% Hispanic Asian whatever that's 25% non-white this is happening okay and it's well predicted by 2042 which is 22 years from now this country for the first time in history will be 50% white and 50% non-white... that is a very hard pill to swallow for people of that mindset they're becoming unhinged and and distance. You know when I was there the day will not replace us thing right and white genocide and see what they're doing is he stepping up their efforts now because one of the main promises in this country or the main concerns is illegal immigration so these groups saying come join us and Mexico West Africa what are plenty of people here in this country right now we're here from Canada and nobody gives a f*** about Canadians coming in there exactly Canadians or or people from the UK or Eastern Europe in the median speak perfect English to they slide right in I don't want my grandkids to be brown well you know if somebody white or the UK visa for Europe going to be white but if they let their grandkids marry somebody from El Salvador or Guatemala or Nigeria or heaven forbid right having trouble so what happens is this do it the NSM can't do it I'll do it myself and that's when they walk into a synagogue or a black shirt okay these are call Lone wolves now we have intelligence agencies or whatever that could infiltrate some of these groups and get in there and get all the stuff in foil those plots you know gather intelligence but you cannot infiltrate a lone wolf it's only one person right as we get closer and closer to 2042 unfortunately when I see more and more of his lone wolves and that's what we have to watch out for the you notice every time one of these white supremacist types gets a busted and they going rate is home where they find a whole cast of automatic weapons and all that kind of stuff that's for the race war we're going to see more and more of his lone wolves and that's what we have to watch out for the you notice every time one of these white supremacist types gets a busted and they going rate as home where they find a whole cache of an automatic weapons and all that kind of stuff that's for the race war

because your knees weak I got sidetracked like what kind of stuff does he have you doing to replace running and I like off the replacement like I I I work in the pool a lot on myself I I run a lot in the pool and you know I swim to I'm not the best swimmer in the world but you know I get in there and I I get after and I get tired they, they created resistant to know any water they all saw it it kind of gives you the resistance pulling pushing in and you know throwing punches with him and he just gives you that extra work that you need George love that should he loves it it's like his training yeah because George did he went out the way you're supposed to know how and he could still do it like he proved it to have dinner with came back in and not just do it go up a weight class and then get it done he can still do he's trained he's one of those guys is not just going to stop training he's been training still training and I know he's he can compete still process he's still the best f****** guys ever seen he's like the guy still a man right now in the gym training hard like nobody yeah and I like to test that you know with a n n i a big respected your this is no disrespect by any means but there's a reason guys like myself and Abby want to fight him it is because we we want to test ourselves this is not a matter of disrespect and I want to beat this guy's ass now it's George was the best he did everything the right way and it got to the top and walked away and he can still do it so we want to test yourself the guy like that because we we pride ourselves on being the best we work tirelessly to get to this point to where it's not as if it's not for the money like all that is good yes you know that that's great but we want to test ourselves against the best to ever do it and that's what George symbolizes and and of course myself using my weight payday right absolutely I think you don't think so tracked just below Conor and khabib it's a f****** I think it's more than 2 million pay-per-view buys how that has to be that guy and even sometimes I have to think might man like that to some guys get envious of that like how did he do that but like that wouldn't be fair it would not be fair like I give everyone has a puncher's chance but it would not be fair like you saw what ditch 15059 imagine me doing that to him at 7 and I just going to take a nap I'm I'm in the March 4th I'm going to hit this guy I'm going to beat on him I'm taking down I'm going to I would do some some bad things the Conor and not just because it's not that I don't like the guy I mean Connors Connor just think that he's a natural 55 when I say impossible that I absolutely am literally impossible impossible like you ever see tonight you ever seen me at way Get Down in Africa Airbnb by like you ever seen like you ever see me that way get out the way yeah I look real African Dona view a very thin

you're a very articulate guy and I'm sure a lot of these people not very educated so they continued exposure to you is probably confusing to them as well cuz you're so good at forming sentences and speaking, and you know the words flow so smoothly out of your mouth and you have these wonderful is wonderful grass for the English language they're probably like in a week we think of Clan people and I say we are the people in general because most of our exposure to it is at the Jerry Springer Show where they throw Cheerios type yeah I heard grade Dropout nothing they can go anywhere from third grade dropout all the way to president of the United States President Warren G Harding was sworn into the Ku Klux Klan in The Green Room of the White House what year was that what every year you was president that was my whole 65 Truman became president he was a member of the Klan for short time that's right Harry Truman who uneducated the Army all right if you got out Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black Halo black was in the Klan at the time he was appointed to the Supreme Court he had to leave the Ku Klux Klan to sit on the Supreme Court as a Justice more recently Senator Robert Byrd from West Virginia to just died a few years ago he was a klansman in the 1940s he was he was a grandpa legal illegal means recruiter Grand and State so he was a recruiter for the state of West Virginia Grant Eagle in the 1940s and that you later renounced and stuff yeah so you know all kind educational backgrounds particularly a long time ago an honorable white man society at the time didn't allow women the clan and they had a women's auxiliary is now they allow women but women still a male chauvinistic organization so women making progress even in the clan when did you start all this what year was it just went when it when did you start meeting the ones you wanted to have this meeting after the first the first friendly meeting that I had with with the plan was in the bar that was 1983 but so everything counter with The Clansman was at the year before and I didn't know he's a class when I beat him up so this but the bar thing I was wondering if it was pre or post the Dave Chappelle bit funny is everybody asking you know did you see that you know that they think it's hilarious but I'mma tell you something it's not hilarious Dave Chappelle and I never done what I've done I find a lot of humor in it but I tell you what he's never been to a Klan rally I have plenty of them those things are not funny they are not funny okay they are a pressure cooker waiting to go off and if that if that was not really you know released it's going to explode and we saw that in Charlottesville but you know that he his joke was, and how ridiculous it was absolutely is aligned aligned exactly from your perspective shouldn't take you no more seriously than we do

now check out Martin Luther King we had to fight fight for decades to have Martin Luther King day was a lot of resistance to that do you realize that a lot of resistance was the fact that Martin Luther King is the only American man in this country to have a holiday all to himself and guess what he's black what you mean by a holiday Autumn self I'll be there at like why did it take until basically the latter latter half of the 20th century before people came to grips with the fact that he was in atrocious human being like when we were kids when I was in a little bit younger than you and 52 when I was in high school they was Columbus sail the ocean blue to the Santa Maria when you get older and you you read these missionaries accounts of the horrific crimes and we still celebrate yeah we sort us out we kind of are done celebrating around Columbus Day indigenous people's day now they should know so we used to have two white guys who each other holiday all to himself Americans were those guys used to have the mid before your time doing my time George Washington day and Abraham Lincoln Day one day I'll Presidents Day okay way too many holidays you have productivity is that with the man who has a hungry to himself is a black man and they can't handle it for the king and now we have to fight for decades to give this man a holiday when he gave his life to bring this country together yet we give a holiday to Christopher p**** pointed out was a murderer serial killer by Pillager a rapist of you who didn't discover a damn thing marketing never murdered and raped but yet we don't want to give him a holiday you know so is That Yo Gotti I've been saying this now for 22 years one of the things that will help us to to advance into the 21st century cuz we are behind the times we need at this point to get rid of black history month now I know little people listening to like freaked out what it was that, but let me explain all right for the longest time we needed Black History Month black history was not being taught in our schools that you remember when you point out a moment ago that when you were in school it'll Columbus was a hero looked up to him etcetera and then you go to college elearn otherwise when I was in high school it was not an AR test books that we had our internment camps for Japanese-Americans I did not learn that until I got to college the times okay so anyway wouldn't have black history what we had was called American history it might as well have been qualified history cuz that's all it was and and even in some cases wipes are being given credit for things they did not invent Apple places they did not discover but we knew we were told it home then said that but not in schools so we had to fight fight fight and finally we got one week it was called negro history week Carter G Woodson created that and schools had negro history week one week a year we continued fighting harder and harder finally we got one month but you know nobody will give us everything at one time right that do without this by little so we got that one month shortest month of the year right February 21st it was the birth month or two of Our Heroes Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln all right so we accepted that and then we stopped fighting and that was a mistake on our part we became complacent and I'd and now it's my belief that black history month has become detrimental to to us to all of us white and black I'll tell you why yes we needed it for we got nothing but here's the problem we only study black history in February and each February we study the same half a dozen people Martin Luther King Rosa Parks Harriet Tubman Booker T Washington George Washington Carver and one or two other ones by the time we get there half-a-dozen up our month is over. I block then let's move on yet we study Benjamin Franklin Eli Whitney Thomas Edison F F Scott Fitzgerald Francis Scott Key all year long with we're constantly reinforcing what they did all year long we never forget who flew the kite and the lightning hit the key and we have electricity we all know it's Ben Franklin all right but yet if you ask them kid in June cellular who was the Harriet Tubman on the bus with Rosa Park man has been no reinforcements since February and then next year next February it's the same half a dozen people all right so you're constantly and I'm not taking anything away from those people they were some of the greatest all right but you're constantly reinforcing that they're only six or seven black people insult country ever did anything what about the guy who invented the traffic light what about the person who invented the ironing board and so black discoveries and inventions have time for that we only have one month to take these things out of those months and put them where they belong Under the Umbrella of American history and teach them all year long that way kids get accustomed to this and learn that and they have more respect for each other love I remember when I was a kid Miss America BeautyCon the only two categories and was all white women black women were not allowed to join listen to compete in Miss America all the judges were white males two categories the evening gown evening wear and the swimsuit that was it women wear objectified there was that subjects you know didn't have talent didn't need to write an essay or sure what else they can do and just looked at and JoJo on that so black women with deemed not beautiful enough two of them to compete in Miss America plus they didn't want any white man judging a black woman in a bathing suit or whatever so black women began heading low self-esteem but they were told they were not as beautiful as these other women so what did we as black people do to elevate the esteem self esteem of black girls we created the Miss Black America beauty pageant to give them something to Aspire to and that work for a while finally Miss America the big one came to his senses and opened its doors I don't know the exact year but I guess it's back in the 70 sometime open the doors to All American women regardless of their ethnicity color whatever as long as they were American they could compete and since that time we've had with that more than one Miss America has been Black starting with the Williams and then Debbie Turner I think maybe one or two other ones does that time so now because Miss America has come into the time we can get rid of black Miss Black America we don't need any more right because the main one when are we going to come to American history when you get rid of black history month we just we just finished the first black American president what are we going to do if Obama are we going to put them in in the end of February February box cuz he's black the only talk about him in February and March or September black history put them in February

as soon as I got the picture I was like I need to talk to you like what you're doing is the saying and then amazing and very very unusual for someone to have that kind of patience and commitment to something like that and to convert these people and without judgment and to be able to rationalize with them in and talk to them reasonably these are my fellow American yes you know we all are we all in this game together and sometimes people get trapped in a really f****** stupid ideology and they don't date that there's a part of their brain that no stump is a private Brandon knows it's toxic and they deny that they ignore that they squash it and they try to avoid thinking about it and then someone like you comes in their life and you kind of like open this door and then how do you know that the tops of thing happens on both sides and I catch hell from people who look like me not everybody you know but there are there people who look like me who totally disapprove because you're giving me people platform. you cannot change somebody's mind by disallowing them to express what's on their mind right you know what that's the argument about deplatforming people online right right look in the argument the other way is that your radicalizing young people the argument as there's a lot of young people that would go on these social media sites and and they're impressionable and they don't know any better particular YouTube they worry about that because these YouTube videos they have music and it's multimedia drawers and with a really good narrator you can get people to play cuckoo this f****** Flat Earth movement right where is that coming from it comes from a few articulate narrators who put together these videos on YouTube where they're the only ones I get to talk so I just don't get the interject. That's wrong that's not I'll show you know it's like this look here's a satellite photo look here's a hundred satellite photos look he is all the satellites take pictures of the earth they don't get to do that so these guys they do have this long uninterrupted narrated video that makes so much sense you you listen to this guy's he changed oh my God the world flat I can't leave them f****** lying to me so there's hundreds of thousands of people that believe in the Flat Earth now because they've been radicalized because they've been converted by these multimedia things like YouTube this is what people worried about in terms of radicalizing them towards hateful ideologies as well radicalized that's exactly you spot on because you know we was until recently that we begin using that word domestically we know for a while they were only using it for from Middle Eastern type people you know when when somebody like dylann roof did what he did with his said he was radicalized issues yes but it but they but they had become what what allowed to become radicalized maybe those mental issues you know but but we don't we don't say vassalize when it comes to our own end of it so many different code words for example what do you call these groups of white people who go out in the woods and practice Maneuvers a survivalist survivalist stuff they're like anti-government paramilitary what are they called them exactly militias what do you call the same type of things with black people I didn't know they have them as more of a negative connotation malicious got a pretty negative connotation not a militant yeah yeah we had a new political party that came out of nowhere the Tea Party the Tea Party really enjoyed the Tea Party is gone now I think they were out by the time he would take back our country back and but that was claiming call and people get resonate with a certain of people that slogan started in 1954 with the plan 1954 when Brown versus the Board of Education desegregated schools you on YouTube find all this planned rallies with these Wizards dressing with a burning cross and balancing country back then the creation then what integrated right so I would have to pee party people why are you using of Clans loading and it's on and they're all that's not what we mean Austin well you don't say take our country back from who you don't take our country back to what you said you trying to say Republican rule okay that's fine why not say that right right the using an already used slogan the right take a case to those people right and he was thing last time I checked Bill Clinton with the Democrat Jimmy Carter with the Democrat where was the Tea Party where was take our country back and then all of a sudden quarter with a Democrat where was the Tea Party where was take our country back and then all of a sudden we're in the white house and they start screaming take our country back right where were you guys 8 years ago

our country is headed to understand our country can only become one or two things you can become number one that which we stand up I'm sorry that which we sit back and let it become one number to that which we stand up and make it become so we are charged with this question do I want to sit back and a country becomes or do I want to stand up and make my temper become what I want to see and I've chosen actors in the ladder cuz I don't like the direction it's going in well you chosen a very Noble is not just a ladder but a very Noble Path me what you've done is pretty incredible amount of time and energy that's required for you to get close to these guys in the fact that you could be doing a lot of the things you're successful musician yeah I'm sure your friends I'm sure you're busy but you chose to spend extra ordinary amount of time for I would much rather be on stage playing music and making people happy and causing the jump up and dance and Carry On and sing along then then then attending klan rallies but I find it more and more necessary because we had dropped the ball meaning of the topic but you and I discussing right now you know 20 30 years ago would have been taboo talkin about on radio or whatever it was a gift to it and I want to discuss it in the closet and denying it does not make it go away just because you can't see it it's always there so now we were forced to address it but let me tell you where it's going which we just wear the locket with you not talk about and don't understand what first of all let's let's let's define what it is back in the day it was only one group or two plus plan they were the first and the largest gang if you will of races at one point in time they had 4 million members of the big guy. Back in the 1920s and then in the end of the early 30s how many people even in America in the 1920s more than that it wasn't even a hundred million million Indiana how many 4 that's f****** crazy so it's basically somewhere in the neighborhood of 4% of the entire population of the country was in the f****** client know that time it was called white supremacy because that's what they believe in you know this is our country we didn't call it the clan it was the plan but the ideology and a lot of history in 1865 a lot of violence a lot of Vino lynchings bombings in a dragon people behind Vehicles without stuff began happening and became a lot of baggage with the term white supremacy where a lot of white people did not like black people or did not like Jewish people they did not want to participate in this night writing you know Lincoln was a murder in Alabama either for for moral reasons or legal reasons whatever the membership beginning dwindling to begin dropping out all right it was too too violent for them this is white supremacy word became unpalatable and became negative so when the membership decreased they had to Rebrand so they changed it from white supremacy to White separatism I'm a white separatist people I just love my own laps and Juice should be able to have their own schools their own neighborhoods their own churches their own workplaces we should go to have ours that we would have to mix oh yeah yeah I like that idea sign me up I'm a white separatist and then they had to Rebrand next they call themselves white Nationals a white nationalist right now what is a nationalist a nationalist to someone who loves their country like the Patriot so you're a nationalist why do we have to say white nationalist here comes the violence the once again the rebranded and now they're going to be alright and I use a cliche but as they say A Rose by Any Other Name is what still a rose so you can call if you want to call it it's still white supremacy do you think that Charlotte was a wake-up call for Charlottesville from me because I knew that it still existed but I didn't think they would show themselves we like that in the age of the internet and walk down the street with tiki torches let me tell you something okay okay the rally there was called unite the right rally I know the guy put it on I know all the speakers there I know them personally what was your understanding as to why they were having this big unite the right rally I only knew of it peripherally I didn't know why they were doing it I just had probably heard it on the news or something like that and then when I saw the KKK showing it with those guys the Charlottesville guys with the Torches were those KKK or was it another white supremacy move on all of the above they had different unite the right all the different right-wing groups came right League of the South National Socialist movement different entities reason as to why why were they that were they protesting what was their reason for for for being there and Charlottesville I have no idea what the media put out was they had come together to protest the removal of the Confederate statues statues most of them were very cheaply made and they were actually put up during the Civil Rights Movement okay so that was not the reason why they had to Rally him that's what the media said okay anytime of the reason why they had this rally their yes there was some people who went there to to legitimately oppose the removal of those statues Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson whoever else but the majority people in there with Eric to start the initial initial steps of the race war that's right the race war the white supremacist have been predicting I've been preparing for a race war just like dylann roof response truck the race whether he said we went to that black church in front of the place I expected to find the guy who shot all those people and I El Paso he said the race war all right here here's what you want to occupy a piece of public property because you want to have a rally a demonstration or even he want to set up a lemonade hot dog stand it was going to be on public property you must have a permit right you go down to the city get an application that you don't fill out your name and state your purpose you cannot very well stay on the application I want to start a race war you would not get the permit all right so you you provide some quasi legitimate excuse my great-great-great ancestors fought in the Confederacy that's my Heritage I don't want you messing with it okay that's legitimate sign off your permit sir and now you can occupy that corner of 12th and Main from 12 noon to 4 p.m. whatever okay so that they went through all the procedure that they got they legally got a permit to have their unite the right rally under false pretense and right now to thins anybody who knows American history knows that they were also blacks and also Jews who fought in the Confederacy alright the black slaves had to fight for their slave owners in the South there were a number of Jewish slave owners they don't want to give up that Free Labor so black Jews and whites fought together in the Confederacy against blacks White Jews in the union my great great great ancestors were slaves who also fought in the Confederacy I have ancestors of what in the Confederacy my parents are from Virginia Roanoke and Salem I was born in Chicago cuz that's where my dad was working at the time but the Virginia is is was the seat of the Confederacy all right so there are black people today some Jewish people who honor the Confederacy they don't condone slavery but they honor the Confederacy because of their great great ancestors stay on her house so like to have I honor my ancestors however I don't under the Confederacy me personally or some of the blessings you want to do that that's your business I don't do it so and ironically ironically this is a historical fact the Confederate Army was integrated the Union Army was segregated and I wouldn't do me any sense okay so here here here we're fighting to free slaves and the end of the federal army has blacks and Jews influenza A and whites with a fighting together and the union title of segregated but it does because it's all so ridiculous with humans are exactly exactly you got it and whites could fight together 150 years ago play March together in 2017 wouldn't it make more sense and give more credibility to your cause if your calls was truly to preserve those statues why not invite descendants like yourselves of blacks and Jews to march with you in Charlottesville and said hey that's my hair is to leave it alone would that not have more credibility can you chat with you even if you only got five or ten right okay that's still what would lend some credibility but instead so they're claiming this is your heritage instead of inviting them in 2017 so it would not let them know I don't know This Is Your Night to unite the right okay if you have white white supremacist organizations so instead of including blacks and Jews everybody in that Heritage fact they were in the Confederacy of the South so instead of including them and they marched through the University of Virginia campus with your tiki torches and the streets of Charlottesville yelling and screaming and he's the medic and racial epithets what did I tell you that tells you their protest was not about Heritage it was about hate as everyone number to nobody in Charlottesville or anywhere else ever met their great great great ancestors who fought in the 1565 Van Born then right now you tell me but it's okay you do you keep it under people you don't know that's fine but how do you honor your great-great-great ancestors in the Confederacy and at the same time you just honor the very ancestors who you do know the very ones who raised you your father's your grandfather's and lucky enough you may have met your great-grandfather these people many fathers of these people Charlottesville many fathers grandfathers and great-grandfathers lost their lives fighting not in the Confederacy but fighting in World War II and who were they fighting the Nazis so how do you tell me you an honor your great-great-great ancestors and you want to walk down the streets of Charlottesville side-by-side with people wearing swastika we went to war against the Nazis why are you marching with Nazis and flying swastikas now now but wait cuz always what did the Nazis have to do without heritage heritage in Charlottesville Virginia in fat even in existence during our civil war was not even born during our civil war so what were the Nazis do it was about Heritage it was about hate and that's the media failed to tell us because it was the media did was they went to City Hall to join into the entire group was the entire group all about hate how many was there I would say probably about 95% people there we were about eight until there was a few misguided people that were there because they really thought they were protecting their Southern Heritage right and they were lumped in with all these other people that used it as a ruse to sort of set up his hate I hate meeting to have a permit how many people went there for that thing I mean there were there were more protesters of course as usual will you excuse my decide the booster tell you one number and the people there take another number the guy who was the the killer that ran those people over James Fields.. Guy scene 4 years old the epitome of a lost soul that got sucked into a horrible ideology was not very smart and that that must be a large centage what they prey on lost people and then they give you a meaning and a reason and Heritage to defend and then everyone had us in the status right in that bunch of crazy names like Cyclops Nighthawk know and I know Susan bro Susan bro is the mother of Heather heyer the girl who was murdered by James field that 20 year old boy threw his life away and it was premeditated Regions Field that 20 year old boy threw his wife away and it was premeditated on the internet before even going there and praised Hitler and so forth and so on and these are things you know that we have to be very much aware of

but I think like you know those moments you know I needed that I needed to to combine our energies in Allen because look how that fight ended up going you know I felt like like that that fight before the fight was to prep me for the fight you know and you know obviously I'm a big Underdog you know the it's in London massage he has so much history there he's from Amsterdam you know I don't know if anyone out there saw the video that Bellator put out afterwards where I said like you know we did it in and you can see how motional I was this is why you know and fast forward to when we're back backstage you know getting ready to go out there I always take my favorite book Think and Grow Rich from Napoleon Hill I always take that it's just a powerful book for my life I discovered it in 2000 the end of 2007 and it's just such an inspirational book I'm in really kind of like was the sort of the for a self-help books and all the other you know people that kind of came from that like Tony Robbins and things like that I like you know the the the motivating you know it like the secrets you know all those sort of things thinking go Rich was like the first and and anyways there so many quotes in there and things are just at stuck with me throughout the years and I love to read certain chapters and in when I'm backstage getting ready to fight and I have like highlighted senses and notes in it and stuff and I'm backstage and I open open book and I hadn't opened it up to this point on this trip like it was just with me putting my bag and you know I got a couple hours before we go out to fight and I always open it up and as soon as I open it it's on the other flap isn't inside in a chapter already last place I looked at it or whatever and first thing I see is a highlighted highlighted portion that says every adversity carries with it the seed of an equivalent advantage that was the first thing that I saw and it hit me right there it was like everything that I went through in this scam to get to this fight you know dad is going to be my advantage dad is going to be what carries me through this fight that that's my I know what I'm here for that's a great quote it's the best you know every adversity carries with it the seed of an equivalent Advantage another one of my favorites from Napoleon Hill that I've used on t-shirts and inside Aggie before Victory is always possible for the person who refuses to stop fighting you know which is that's martial arts right that's a black guy was Wipeout who never quit you know as long as you never quit success is always pause every failure just helps you learn and grow to to you know get to your ultimate objective ultimate goal and when I saw that you know right I booked and right now I Think and Grow Rich and appoint a lot to all my all my students all my competitors all my guys always talk about that book and and that was the first thing that I saw you knowing and like I said like going into this fight all I wanted was that fight like trying to get a prove that whole process was just like hey just give me this one just give me this one more don't stop me this short of of my dream you know my dream to fight for the belt to fight a legendary fighter like massaging someone that's been you know at the top or so long that was how I envisioned you know fighting for my first big world title in MMA and I mean I was going out there like the last fight of my life like it could potentially be the last part of my life you know and all this stuff with my health like you know what I'm thinking about my my parents and my family you know like wondering you know am I going to get hurt is this in my you know going to do something where it's selfishly where because I want this I want to fight I want this this title that something can happen to me and and you know to be healthy I'm not going to be the same and I'm gonna break their hearts out all these emotions and thoughts and and you know it's just like like I was literally kind of I mean and it's so to speak going out there ready to die like ready to just let it all out like this is it you know all I wanted was this opportunity you know and and I could feel how all of that was to prep me for the fight you know getting that we went through that fight to get to the fight and my dad to my corner and he's in my corner for all my fights I have the guys that went through everything you know those that last for five weeks before the fight to get approved with me and when I saw that I looked around at them and I smiled as the guys we're going to do it we're going to do it you know it was like it was Destiny and and I don't know you know if you've ever seen But I posted before some clips of my dad who is a professional organist or former professional organist but he still plays the organ he's a musician and when I when I walked out for this fight I I had them Play a clip of my my dad playing the organ and you know growing up when I first started training martial arts my dad was playing the organ at that time professionally and and that was that was what I did the time that I stay with my dad I was at church listening to him play the organ and then we would go to the academy and and we would you know we would train or we would train at home and you know my father's in my corner and you know this is this is our work you know I am who I am because of him I'm a martial artist because of him I have my brother's the guys have been training with Robert you know it was it was it was our destiny was family you know we were going out there and fight as a family and I'm walking out to my dad playing the organ and it would just really it took me to this place where is like I'm going to give everything I absolutely have win or lose I'm you know I'm not going to stop by me do my best my absolute best and and then you know the fight went the way it did came down to the 5th round you know that's where that fits around came from was whispered for them you know that the love that they gave me to eat to get me even just to get me there you know cuz I was ready to break man I was I was in pieces so many days in that can't be no it was just a roller coaster of emotions but having them you know my father my brothers behind me that's where that strength came from and and everything we went through before the fight but that's why I was so emotional in the cage and you get emotional anyways for a title fight but you know it was it was something else just to just to get their you known in and have that opportunity and you can really matter UCR I mean my UCR he he's right there with his hands like powerful moment right there did it bother you that he was here a lot of sour grapes after the fight gay guard did has my mom paying our respects give him a hug mean I understand that he felt bad cuz he lost but I felt like the way you handled it was uncharacteristic for him he was if we were so respectful before after the final went up to him in a before they made the decision I want to tell my sugars hand I said man of Honor you know so much respect for you it was an honor to battle with you you know I think them thank you and we shook hands and hugs and you know but then he didn't stay after they raised my hand he he walked right out we didn't shake hands again and then everything else you got really surprised me I think it was just hard to to Fathom because you know this was my 10th by he'd already had over fifty and he was a big he was a big favorite I just don't think you know he they were very confident they were very confident leading up to the fight I don't think anyone imagine me to walk out of there without belt special with one leg didn't know about it hurt really bad after I'm sure but you know I didn't feel like that's when the drones pumping you know I didn't it wasn't till like an hour later also cool rides pretty tight yeah he did that why do you think I mean he's lost before I've never seen him to sit tribute essentially tribute most of your success he was just accusing you of taking steroids and not a little bit of steroids you saying like monkey steroids that's what he said yeah I don't know you know his Camp Adam I feel like massages genuinely like when I would call you do a real martial arts he's a he's a martial artist and you doesn't really ever you know Trash Talk anybody and we were out very respectful but is Camp was they were saying and doing some things that were a little edgier I would say when we will do here yeah yeah when we classy when we were at the press conference and we were going on for the faceoff you know all is camphor always yell in a bunch of things and and you know when we're walking up one guy yells up to me dead man walking and of course a meeting on my mind I'm like I have this brain disease you know that you know may or may not be an issue here and in a couple days when we fight you know and and I have my family right there I'm like and then I have to look at them in the ice you know but I'll never forget that I thought about that you know dead man walking and I was just like this guy you know and it was a lot there's a lot to take in to step into that cage but I think maybe some of the people he's around maybe that doesn't mean that doesn't cause him to say those things when he was sitting at the dock at the table with microphone in front of them did you respond to that no I mean that was right when we were walking the faceoff in the priest press comes was basically done at that point so I have nothing to say to that you know that that person yelling that and you know what I mean after the fight when he was accusing use steroids and I never never had a a moment to you know I said we'd have another haven't had another fight haven't been never did an interview or anybody talk to you about his I know who was I did one Luke Thomas Luke Thomas interview with me I think it was no yeah it was before he thought Machida before he thought Machida he talked to me about it you know it interview about the fight and everything and you know I don't have too much to say other than I just felt like it was a little sad because there's a great fight you know it was a really great fight and Good Feet close by super close I feel like we kind of you know he probably thinks that he was under par and and I made a lot of mistakes too and I wasn't too happy about some of the things in that happened in that fight as well I thought I could have done a lot better but in a way I feel like we kind of brought out the best in each other you know his Jiu-Jitsu very much impressed me he was he was a seasoned Pro just like always calm and you know then when he had his moment he had his moment he started taking over you know and you know it brought up the best of me in that the heart that I showed coming back in that fits around and I just feel like it was a great fight and we should be applauding each other for our performances and you know I brought up the best of me in that the heart that I showed coming back in that fits around and I just feel like it was a great fight and we should be applauding each other for our performances and and all this you don't trash talking is really taken away from that

this is why you're here we're here to talk about that and I guess you should probably just explain what's going on well I guess I'll just kind of take you through the the events here you know that was my tent fight fighting for the Bellator title and in all my other nine fights previously it was never required for me to get a brain scan done just do to the to the different states that I was fighting at the time the commission's there and didn't require it in the US it's California New York and then Europe you know requires a brain scan we were originally scheduled to fight in January at The Forum in California the same event that just happened this past Saturday night and so we're going to fight 2019 at The Forum in January and that postponed Versace was injured and we eventually got rescheduled to fight in June in London so I already had a brain scan scheduled for December to get approved for that fight in January but I got the news about the fight getting canceled like the week of that scan a couple days before so I canceled it this I don't need to go get that done now and see fast forward you know I basically stayed in Camp the whole year training you know with that fight on my mind all the way from November when I started the first camp for the fight in January you know into the new year waiting for the the new date and it was March that that I got the word that we were going to fight in June in London and so you know basically training all year and I just pick right back up into camp and fast forward on into the very beginning of May I was going home already a good month into like the serious camp and I was just getting ready to fly to Brazil Curitiba to get into the you know the hardest phase of Camp I was going to be there for 3 weeks I had to get my MRI done you know what I wanted to get it done before I went to Brazil just to check it off the list so this was actually the week I had I had two good buddies of mine Jake mace and Sam Alvey were in Oklahoma training with me and we had a great week of training everything is going really really well and and it's Thursday and so I go get my brain scan done to get that done bring me to Brazil and I'm in there and you know where we get to the whole process and the Machine is done and it's not you know operating anymore but they haven't called me out of the room yet and I could kind of just sense something was going on so finally this you okay come on out and the radiologist with really no like no Candor or like an easy soft way of saying it was like dude have you seen your brain before there's some stuff in here you need to see and you know pulls me into the room and shows me on the on the screen he's like pointing out these you know look like little balls obviously look like something was wrong with it look like normal skin but I'm not I don't know you know Falls like like shades of you know discoloration like according to the scan itself like you could see that you know it wasn't normal and he didn't even know what it was at the time and he was like let me let me look this over tonight I have my paper and you know to get signed off that everything looks clear and normal and you know it he was just like you know he asked me if I had any concussions and if I've had any issues and I said oh no and he's like what this doesn't look right and you shouldn't be doing what you're doing I'm like okay so you're going to sign this paper and he's like no and he's like come back tomorrow and I'm going to give you some more information that's okay so I go back Friday and he tells me that you know he did some research and he believes that I have a disease called cavernoma and you know we kind of hit me with that I had no idea whatever number was and you don't he says look I'm not signing this paper you need to go see a specialist and get this looked at but as far as I know you should not fight you know you should not be fighting and then the next morning I fly to Brazil for my Camp you notes to go down there for the the hearts boring and everything that I like to do you know stuff we talked about last time and so I'm like I'm in the airport getting ready to go to Brazil for this portion of my can for this fight that is like the biggest fight of my life you know I've already waited an extra six months for it I've been trained for all year and at this point I'm like just in shock of what is going on my health and you know so am I Googling everything that I can about cavernoma and trying to understand what it is and basically it's a he's we're probably like I probably got it from one of my parents it's a it's normally a hereditary disease and your brain forms these extra blood vessels in these blood vessels grow and they can accumulate and sort of bundle up together into balls I'm almost like like like weeds or Vines you know they they wrap up together and these blood vessels are very Pro the bleeding now they don't believe so much in in a in a instance where you know they could cause a hemorrhage it's more like a slow that they use the term oozing effect so chooses Blood Out overtime very little little by little and as they accumulate you know those balls are very you know much more susceptible to to bleeding and reading about it while I'm getting ready to go you know I'm flying to Brazil I'm in the airport I'm taking off you know there's so many like extreme cases of this disease where people have to have multiple surgeries to get them removed you know seizures Vision issues people go into Comas and then of course worst worst case is even death and you know obviously Googling and you know not talking to a specialist and just kind of doing my own thing is not the best way to to get in for information and so I just have all these thoughts running in my head about you know what I'm dealing with my health in like okay now I'm going to you know Brazil to you don't train and Spar and and I have this fight and I'm right now I don't have anyone selling off in this paper you know is this going to happen what's going on like these questions and so I get there and you know at this point the only one that that knows is my girl you know and I'm confiding in her arms like talking to her and you know she's shocked and I've never had any issues I don't even really get headaches never been knocked out you know there's never been a time of my life where I thought man I should get my head looked at you know I think something could be wrong you know and so you know talk with her and then I have my coach Maddy Co he's my head MMA coach am I my teacher and he goes with me down to it so I could have Shiba and we train there at his brothers Academy Andre Dida Dida Academy evolu Sound tide and you know we fly Saturday arrive Sunday start training Monday and I'm just like I'm trying to train this first day and I'm just like what am I doing you know and I'm getting hit in the head and I'm like man am I slowly killing myself right you're like you know what am I training for at this point I'm not I'm not approved like what what am I going to do you know and and so we we talked it over and we're like okay obviously we need to get more opinions you know and I'm down to Brazil for 3 weeks I'm basically all of me the fight was June 21st or 23rd something like that and and so I'm spending all of May there so I need to see some Brazilian doctors some doctor down here and go to Cheba and so we've just begin the process let's get a prescription to speak Portuguese I'm not a hundred percent fluent but I can get around I can do pretty well on my own down there just from all the trips that I've done over the years so you know thankfully Mauricio his brother Dita they have so many connections down there you know being who they are and the history that they have you know teaching martial arts you know you get to know everybody and so they were able to make things happen quick for me we saw a doctor got a prescription for another MRI get scheduled to get that MRI done which happens on Friday the end of my first week there so I'm going that whole week training trying to stay positive but I'm wondering you know what up you know what am I doing what's going on you know what I mean like I can't I can't begin to describe the the thoughts and emotions that I can't imagine that as well oh yes yes and you know they go harder down there put it mildly yeah yeah that place is known for like some of them ruthless Killers to ever come out of Brazil 100% I mean 9% that's shoot the Box exactly I'm not sleeping well you know I'm emotional wreck basically I'm calling my Grove over FaceTime you know multiple times a day we're looking at each other on the screen I'm crying I'm confiding in my TV show and shine Genie Beto was also there with me I had an Airbnb with Sean so thankfully I wasn't on my own 24/7 outside of the Academy I used to always stays with his family and you know I'm just like man when Sean Sean she arrived that Monday or Tuesday and I tell him what's going on I'm just like dude I'm a mess right now like I don't know you know I'd I'm just so uncertain of of my health and what's going on and and you don't like man I just can't put into words right now but I'm trying to stay positive I'm trying to stay positive and we get through that first week get the MRI the new MRI down in Brazil so then we have you know the Brazilian Mariah to take to Brazilian doctors and so then the second week we start seeing neurologist and you know specialist to get there opinion and and see what they have to say and that was the hardest week ever because multiple doctors were all saying no you know when you look at the scan right off the bat it just like it it doesn't look good you know when your picture of it actually I don't have sorry I don't have one with me right now but you know what you just see these gray like little shades of circles like in the well I have multiple and most of them are very small like popcorn size and you know those aren't that dangerous at least yet but there is one accumulation on the backside of my right side of my head you know back here and that has built up and and it looks it looks big problems probably like somewhere between like a baseball sized like golf golf ball the baseball in between there it's it's pretty big but it's on the very Outer Rim so it's not like in the middle of my brain it's on the outside you know so if you were to go right through my head it could be right there you know you could essentially pull it out without having to go through too much stuff is that something that might actually have to happen no not at not now not now I'll fast-forward you know to the doctors I have seen here in the states who clarify a lot of this but that's what the Brazil all say the same thing will they're kind of just I mean you no fighting already isn't good for your brain you know what I mean getting hit in the head isn't good for your brain and I think just looking at it when you see it and then you know that I'm going to get hit in the head and when I do you're you're automatically going to be like hey you know there's already this extra bit of of danger that we're putting in to a dangerous situation let's not let's not play roll the dice you know it's not play that game and so we were getting multiple doctors saying no you know and even one was like you know they said that Jiu-Jitsu could be dangerous that's me getting my blood cut off like in a choke you know cutting off the circulation to my brain that could be dangerous and so this week I am a literally not sleeping at all I am crying multiple times a day and I'm just like man what am I doing I'm going into the sparring you know and I'm training and I'm not I'm not going to get approved I'm not going to fight you know and this is already been like a 6 7 month training camp at this point you know and it's for the Bell it's my life's work it's everything for me you know so I was just crushed day-in-day-out trying to get through and on Thursday of that week I'm doing MMA sparring and you know I kind of had it coming I shouldn't have I should have been going as hard as what I've been going but I was like trying to you know stay positive and stay ready like what if I need to I need to be ready for this fight you know some Saucy like I got to be at my best and in reality I was just training like garbage I was having my worst trait but I'm at work so I can't you know because of everything and on this day I'm in my third round of MMA sparring and I I strained my hamstring bad I go for like a double leg and the guy has a judo background he overhook like wizard Meme and goes for like a hoochie mama de her I goci type of throw I'm wearing wrestling shoes I try to drop my hips you know so he doesn't Elevate me and my legs my go straight in my foot gets stuck in the floor with the wrestling shoe and my hamstring just snapped you know like allowed like pop up and I just scream and I let go and I let you know I get thrown down and I'm just like you know he knew something was wrong with stop right there and my leg is just throbbing and I tried to get up I couldn't get up so I had to like walk on my hands screwed off the mat carried out of the academy that day could not walk and I'm sitting down the edge of the mat and I just like I'm a burst into tears and I looked look up to Medicine on McMahon it's not going to happen like there is no way you know all this is going on I'm not approved I'm training horrible my I can't walk now you know and so you know that was the end of week 2 all knows we have one more dr2c who's like the professor of many of the doctors that I already saw he is very highly regarded one of the best doctors in the south of Brazil Neuro Specialist neurosurgeon we were so lucky to get in to see him and you know cuz he's booked up booked up booked up but we managed an appointment time for Monday of the third week Monday night so you know I'm like a basically given up I can't walk I'm at home that whole weekend and Sean Jean he he had seminars on the weekend you know he came down there to support me to camp but on the weekends he was going off to teach seminars in different areas of Brazil and so I'm laid up in this Airbnb all weekend and I'm like just FaceTime in my girl and I'm like you know baby like I don't think this has happened I can't believe come this far you know to the title shot this much training you know for the camp like going from November of 2018 into the end of May of 2019 that was my that was it was just this fight with massaging and you know it took everything for me like the sounds funny but the the house the Airbnb the the host you know what she just like great host she left so many chocolates and all this food in the house like sweets and I just wanted to pig out and eat all these chocolates you know I kept telling Johnny bro you got to eat these things like I can't look at these I'm so I'm so much an emotional wreck right now you know and I'm in I'm in the the spot all weekend by myself and I'm ready to give up I'm like I'm going to go eat your ass got here you know what I mean and you know these chocolates and just like cuz I have to diet very strict to make 185 what do you walk around at around 2:10 to 2:15 is my normal way you know so I mean that weight is kind of normal like most guys at 185 or around 2:10 but I'm already tall I'm already naturally pretty lean so I have to be very strict on my diet to to get that low and it took everything for me to not just pig out and just like totally give in you know my UCL was just like hey we have one more doctor one more doctor the whole weekend all I did was just put CBD cream on my leg Brazilian CBD shout out to them and my sponsor and are using the MARC Pro on my on my leg to Mark bro it's like a like a TENS unit has different frequencies and you can go really deep in there so I'm just like okay let me just try to recover this thing as much as I couldn't train couldn't do anything I was basically stuck at home and that's all I did and I just said okay Monday night that's it if he says no it's done and at this point I hadn't told anything that I let my manager at now but we hadn't said anything to anybody else literally going with the new with my girl Shan to my TCL and Ed and so we go see this doctor Monday night and man right off the bat he kind of just because he was the first one to be just chill and just like okay what's going on what brings you here didn't look at any pictures didn't you know didn't rush it and I tell him yeah you know I got my scans it looks like I have a cavernoma for sure how do you feel the first one to ask me how do you feel and you know this is all a big huge shock on their had any problems I feel great and fine you know you know I don't even get headaches and he's like okay you know he talks with me and he's like let's go to an evaluation we do an evaluation and do some tests everything's normal like just simple like you know stand on one leg and all that kind of stuff you know and everything's fine and we go back to the office we sit down he's like let me just see what I can find but I guarantee I'm not going to find anything that says head impact or trauma is going to increase the risk of your camera cavernoma bleeding and so he starts looking up you know journals and and you know studies all the things that doctors have access to and he literally finds nothing there's no studies that say that getting hitting your head is going to make your cavernoma worse or or cause you to bleed and in something's going to happen he's like look you can bleed you know you can be losing blood and any point time little by little and it could become an issue at some point time but there is no treatment there is no we're not going to do surgery like there's no it's going to happen until you have symptoms until you show signs and because I can't find any studies that say getting hit in the head is going to make it worse and because you are you know a normal like healthy functioning person at this point I think it's fine for you fight you should continue doing what you do until it becomes a problem and if it does become a problem we'll go in there and we'll take it out the big the big mess and you know demo will move forward and so I'm just like you know I start getting emotional ready and I'm kind of like wow so you'll write a letter saying this you'll you'll support me he's like yeah sure sure no problem super calling guy just and he was the oldest doctor with spoken to as well most experienced and so we get this letter man walk out of that office me and Mauricio and we leave the door and we'll get to the elevator man I just I just like burst into tears I just I can't believe that there's some hope like this this can still happen and me and my used to embrace and just we both cry like a fat guy we got the letter we got the letter so I send a letter to Ed and we begin the process of trying to get we should get everything in the Bellator let him know they got the scans they send it over to the European commission that use an organization called safe anime and you know we kind of like we're happy were positive but at the same time I'm still not approved it's still not on you know but the letter is like that was the missing piece that was what we know to be able to move forward so I finished that last week unable to really move you know I can't wrestle I can't kick and my last weekend Brazil you know I'm literally just hitting mitts like this and I'm like okay trying to stay positive I still have like a month let's get this healed let's just keep sweating it's it didn't have any discoloration so it wasn't a tear it was like a severe strain the popping it didn't turn black and blue and so without that color discoloration I didn't I almost don't even want to know I was just letting you know like when it didn't really actually still feel it now yeah the whole way but I could stand so I could stand and all I'm doing is boxing now at this point because I can't throw kicks and I can't change levels to it to do takedowns and so that was a whole another thing because you know as I'm waiting to to hear back on if I'm going to get approved I'm only punching mitts like I might as well be doing like a cardio kickboxing class you know without kicks and that was the last thing that I want to do with massages just going there and box you know right that's not what I do right so the the hardships and frustrations we just continued as I'm dealing with my hamstring but at least we had some some hope so I finished that we fly home and now I'm finishing like my last couple weeks of camp at home in Oklahoma don't you come to Oklahoma you know Matty issues there and I'm trying to put together some great training one of my best training Partners from could itchy but his name is Chris Cristiano he can't Oklahoma as well and you know everyone's aware of the situation as far as my coaches MyTeam I did not tell my parents I I didn't want anyone to know I didn't want it to get out and so I was just dealing with it with them you know and and so we send everything in and we're waiting for waiting does this guy his name is Yanni he's on the commission with safe in the may he reaches out to me like after the first week and he said we need to talk and so give him a call and he's like we we got the letter were looking at your scans we've actually created panel of doctors to talk about this and at this point it's fifty-fifty you know I just want you to know we're we're unsure if we're going to approve and I just want you to hear you know I just wanted to touch base with you when you hear from me we see everything but you have to understand where we are still not sure so bear with us I'm like okay try to get through the next week and I had some decent days with my hamstring where I could shoot a little bit and work some takedowns but if I had a good day the next day I had to take it real life because it was just it was so tight so tight so tender massage 400 yeah how is you and everything everything possible I mean getting it worked on doing hot cold like you know I'm I'm pretty like anything out there that that is for Recovery I have probably at my house you know I'm big on really taking care of my body so I was just trying to be as smart as I could and just get through it and you know we come to this point now where the fight is two weeks away and I don't know if it's on or not you know what trying to put together is good training as I can stay as positive as I can but at the same time I'm just like men I need the yes you know I need to be able to focus now are you staying conditioned when you barely can use your leg man it was it was really hard I I was heavier I was walking around heavier than what I normally what would 4 for my fights you know by this time I'm normally below 5 in the 200 to 205 range that's where I like to get to just off pure diet not training and I was still to 10 to 12 you know it was hard like I couldn't I could box you know like a box hard and I could Spar boxing but without wrestling I'd I didn't feel like I was conditioned the way I wanted to be I couldn't Sprint I could ride the bike the bike didn't put too much pressure but I couldn't go call out the way I would like to make an airdyne yeah and airdyne everything was not the way it would normally be done now you know you're never a hundred percent you're always dealing with something you know I've had a broken nose before Cuts rib things like there's always something you know but but it was it was the stress of both in India uncertainty and if we would get the fight at all that was really hard and for sure that's why I got hurt you know that's one I got hurt but anyways finally on like the last day that they could give me the answer they gave me the answer and I got the email and it said we've approved you you are approved to Fight 2 weeks before the fight I held off on you know I'm pulling my family there you know I mean I have all my there's the corner coaches but have a couple of the coaches that I was you don't got to fly out there and I was waiting to purchase these tickets and you know when I had some other guys like hey where you staying what's what's going on like I'm ready in like a don't book anything just yet don't look at me cuz I don't want them to buy tickets to London and you know I'm not fighting and I'm trying to like be cool and not give anyone to you know too much of an idea what's going on and stay positive stay confident and everything finally got the green light and I early flying a few days later to London Eye we left on Tuesday and ride there Wednesday I got there like 10 days before so I have one weekend before the weekend of the fight and you know at this point it was like okay once we got that yes I mean we celebrated it was like you know that's all I want it I mean I'd already fought so hard just to be able to get to this fight you know and you know at this point it was like okay once we got that yes I mean we celebrated it was like you know that's all I want it I mean I'd already thought so hard just to be able to get to this fight you know

are you officially retiring I'm not officially retiring I am sort of I guess in definitely on the sidelines right now I am I am actively seeing more doctors and working towards learning more about this obviously I want to keep fighting it is gentleman in La dr. Wong's everything so he had done these operations on you said MMA fight I don't know if you operated on he mention boxers NFL players I don't know if you operated on them he had seen it in them and help them continue their careers and he keeps like a close eye so you know I need to get scans done at least once a year was yours that patch the large patch in the back your head was that particularly troubling to him more than all the other ones no no he is yes in because it's not deepen if it's not in the area where it could affect my my cognitive functions my memory things like that back there you know how I'm not a hundred percent sure they made it I mean he made it sound like nothing too important happens there it's more like Santa I know like the back area as far as what I've learned this far is more like everyday type of stuff you know it's not your memory it's not in a position where you could violently lose your temper or kind of like have like a a lapse in time you know where you kind of become someone else and then you come back like you know that all that kind of stuff happens more deep inside the brain where it's at on the outside in the back is just sort of like the regular stuff you know obviously want neither of us are neurosurgeons yeah so are you thinking about going in there and getting it removed no notice is recommended against why is it doing why do brain surgery if I don't have any symptoms that's what that's what he says and you know it cuz I was up for it I said hey should we just do this and he's like it'll probably be six months to a year before I would say it's okay to go back into sparring and things like that you know you're going to be able to walk out and be fine and do your day-to-day stuff but getting hit in the head for a while and why I mean it's a low-risk surgery but why take that risk if you're not having symptoms the the treatment of the Care is always just to keep an eye on it see how it develops and if you start having some problems then we're going to go in there and remove it but if you say that you're in definitely on the sidelines it's it seems to me that unless you get it removed apparently on the sidelines well I you know this is where I'm at now this is such a a rare and unique thing no one really knows too much and I'm getting some people that are saying no no way and then I'm getting these other you know specialist in people that really dealt with it that are like yeah it's okay I am like I said it's indefinite how why did I want to I'm 36 so you're in this realistically athletically this is sort of the last chapter known as The Champ trying to submit myself as one of the great Champs of this era and you know defend that belt as long as possible and you know say goodbye but I still have hope I still have hope that if I can continue seeing more doctors and getting more knowledge you know Andy Foster from the athletic commission is Right recommended another doctor to see I'm not officially declined for the California State athletic commission at this point Andy Foster talk to his doctor Wong who specifically says he didn't think it was going to be a problem no not yet no not yet but he recommended another doctor UCLA that actually used to work on the athletic commission that could be a big help and I mean this is I'm right in the middle of this so I'm just going to keep seeing more doctors and try to learn more about this and you know if it's if it's really unsafe I'm not going to get approved ever I finally got to a place where I can accept that you know and and I'm going to move forward on with my life teaching and doing what I do you know at home and and with all my students worldwide but but as if I'm still getting people like dr. Wong in the doctors on Brazil and I can find more doctors who have experience with this if they keep saying that they think okay then and I can you no have hope of getting approved I'm going to keep fighting for that where it where can you get approved what states go to prove you right now well that's tricky to know because you know as far as in the US only New York and California require brain scans and so that's you know a big thing of what I want to talk about you know or what I wanted to bring awareness to is like you know it all states don't require Skin So if you if you fight in those States you know it's to me it's up in your best interest to on your own if you have the means if you have insurance or whatever get scan done yeah what to see what that's what it looks like but I'm hoping that through this we can figure out if cavernoma is safe or not the more doctors I have looking at this and you talking about it bringing awareness to it that we're going to learn and understand more of this disease and if it's possible if it's not possible but I'm trying to keep the hope alive that if if it's 6 months or a year or even two years then maybe I can least get one more you know at least get one more but the thing is then putting me in the state that doesn't require a scan doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to get approved because these other commissions have a responsibility to speak up and say hey we don't think it's of his best interest you know health-wise to to compete and you know I'm not I don't I'm not I'm not against the commission I totally understand and respect that Andy Foster is one of the very best in the business he's so ahead of everybody else and he they they open up a time for me to come out next month and speak with him face-to-face you know and get to see the people that are made decisions and learn more and understand more of their position and when you know how they feel about it and I'm just trying to gather up as much information in the meantime would it be possible to do that with Dr Wang I hope so that's the plan and hopefully a few more that's that's what I'm working on that's when I'm in the middle of and until then I'm just going to keep training and trying to stay positive when you have a match with a Jiu-Jitsu match what has been announced yet but defacing mean it's about to come out it's less than a month away now February 21st I'll be facing Roberto cyborg in a grappling match in my good fellow yes yes probably in the neighborhood of 2:40 maybe a little more yeah we had a few matches the past and he's a great guy he's a legend as well like just you know one of the best ever for my time and it'll be fun that's what I want to do in the meantime to keep myself sharp keep competing keep training and hopefully get another opportunity but if not at least learn more about this and hopefully you know Inspire others to get checked out you know even if you're not in your combat sport you know we're doing anything risky just like the same way same thing you would do like to go get a check-up you know hey at some point in your life it wouldn't hurt get scammed on yeah you know it just really opened my eyes to how we don't know what what's going on up there and something can happen you know and you don't have an answer to it but if you knew what was in your brain maybe you would have that answer yeah it seems like such a tricky situation to be in because if you do decide to do something about it you really kind of almost have to do it now right because 36 with a full year off of no sparring at all or they said 6 months to a year so he would have to see you a couple times maybe do another scan see where you're at let's say six months or 6 months is like an ACL surgery not that bad right but a Year's like now we're in the 37 37 and 1/2 men and then you got to get real Tip-Top shape again if you really wanted to fight against funny I understand the doctors position why do the surgery if you don't experience symptom but most people aren't Fighters the thing is though it doesn't take away the fact that I have cavernoma like there's multiple locations and so just moving that one doesn't change the condition so the it's possible the commission's wouldn't change their evaluation just based on the scan with the the other areas exactly but the thing is though it doesn't take away the fact that I have cavernoma like there's multiple locations and so just moving that one doesn't change the condition so the it's possible the commission's wouldn't change their evaluation just based on the scan with you the other areas exactly

Shoulda brought in the pictures I have several little spots all over there actually in my car where's your car outside I was Googling it there's something called a gamma knife surgery gamma knife surgery yeah that my girl going to go get it for you okay just found you an option but I don't know if he's a doctor treatment need to bring it to some witch doctor but this it's I mean I can't imagine what you're going through mind what you have gone through Jesus Christ and you go into machine like this what the fuk just listening to this it says Brain stereotactic radiosurgery at the Mayo Clinic and it looks into like an MRI machine and they got this guy bolted down his head his kind of screwed into this f****** harness I guess you can't move and they roll you into this machine and what is his machine do think it then does this I saw this picture and video of it where it is radiation just hammers your head planning on going to displace the Mayo Clinic to make you smarter that's what's going to happen with that you going to get super powers and s*** up with that being came out if you came out of that you can read people mind would you tell Whole Lotta me that suck crazy-looking machine-man the f****** this the harness on the head holyshit that looks uncomfortable take a bit to go to that lady that lady right there with the white thing and she looks so uncomfortable so this this is a treatment for cavernoma I was looking up cavernoma yet in this popped up I don't know I'm sure there's since he's going to see multiple doctors court that there's multiple treatments that are going on this seems to be one treatment for a variation of it that's interesting when you level up. Like how do you get us registered against taking down a hole and this is what I found the pictures obviously they look better on the Disco KO s*** I could see it from here wow dude that's crazy okay folks while I'm looking but you hold us up so people can see particularly this one drink layer as I don't want on the outside of the right is a f****** big ass spot on your brain near you can see there's a few in there that's the big boy all in all that doesn't look good and that's what I saw when I was on my way to Brazil going to train that would especially you're going to shoot the box I would freak me the f*** out and you can see the little ones that are around yeah they weren't too concerned of those yet it's the big one and a little bit of this one here that's more on the inside it's not big big like that one but I know all of these are outside of the brain know just something inside the brain on me that's crazy to look at man it's got to be weird looking at the inside of your head and seeing all the stuff that makes you you all your personality your memories all your skills on your knowledge all in there and it's got weird spots on it talk man yeah craziest heavy it's it's still having but I'm sure you put that on your Instagram well this is my my coming-out party I guess you could a dumb f*** man that spots creeping me out but you know this is hereditary thing that you the extreme ends or you live with this and it's never a problem your whole life the other side is it's a problem right from the beginning and you have to have multiple surgeries and bad things happen man that's spots creeping me out but you know this is hereditary thing that you the extreme ends are you live with this and it's never a problem your whole life the other side is it's a problem right from the beginning and you have to have multiple surgeries in bad things happen

that's the emotional side of fighting with emotional side of losses like when you see guys just weeping in their locker room and like remember what the hardest one for me was all do after McGregor knocked him out and he was just in his locker room just weeping like God damn that dude as a tough one tells you know that's that's going to stay like in infamy Forever by the worst guy cuz he's going to tell everybody about everything I want to cover it and about the way it goes a picture perfect punch to slides back when I was in the crowd and I was I was told I was getting the winner of that fight in the one that went down like that I just knew that wasn't going to happen so I thought I was going to get a rematch at and they are talking about going to go up to 55 my damn head yeah that the Aldo fight was crazy because I think that was the first time that anybody ever really disrespected Aldo Aldo was the f****** man for so long I mean the crazy thing about Aldo is he still only 32 years old Niagara talking about that with the Marlin fight when he was WC Champion a long time ago man ain't me to go back and think about what he knocked out Cub Swanson with that flying knee that was a long time ago that double knee and I'm the second one that's the last time you drove like kicking both our fights it's crazy because you watch his early career like watch the Urijah Faber fight it is one of the most horrific displays of destroying someone's leg you've ever seen in a fight yeah and so fast on men with no loading just now with no loading he would just just whip those hips and I will you know he was a soccer player like a really good soccer Riot UFC videos and play sock I see no jogging along and he's like a pro I think soccer players first of all their legs are so conditioned cuz they're doing all that they're basically sprinting all the time the running I'm running 5 miles again and they're going to blow out just he was like a whip those legs I wonder I wonder why all those stop throwing leg kicks I really wonder I like Wonder I mean he's had gotten something right you know you know it's a big issue with some guys like John Wayne Parr needs a hip replacement right now I mean he just has last fight he won in a boxing match and Toes is whole family he's just like he's just not like 35 to writers and I think she's like 14 now he's been fighting over the last year or two with a really f*****-up hit man like me has fallen apart man they like you got to have a hip replacement whole inside is torn apart night looking forward to the future man I have some stem cells my shoulder give it enough time to think about the stem cells is it really takes like 4-5 months before it actually I extend it starts healing things and a lot of guys like yourself mean you don't you don't you don't gather any done end of time it happened to think about the stem cells is it really takes like 4-5 months before it actually I extend it starts healing things and a lot of guys like yourself mean you don't you don't you don't gather any done

that's hilarious so well what's happening man you just got off of the Chan sung Jung fight and what's next we up to I'm go down 35 yeah probably like 56 right now mummy soap base legs and shoulders are so big but his waist is kind of small so maybe that's how he carries it so have you done a cut like that before I haven't been that but I mean my last fight at the you know getting down to 45 got down to like 44.5 and 28 and 1/2 / where I got to be for to make 36 and it was such an easy cut for this last time so it's your you're an interesting situation man because like you want a title at 55 and you didn't cut any weight at all and a lot of people like what the f*** man Frankie Edgar ua255 as you are so adorable like that was one of the craziest things about some of your fights like the Gray-Mane or fight that f****** a man who who wrap those fights Levine both of them now the first one the first one if he was Josh Rosenthal well put shout out to both of those guys time to let it go let it all depends on what all changes it's such a weird thing writes like the referees trying to help the fighter the trying to make sure the Fire doesn't take unnecessary damage but you know more than once you see fight stop we like I like I wasn't done right he was he was getting through a bad patch and that's part of what a fight is about it's like trying to figure out how to survive for sure I always want the benefit of the doubt you know I don't want to get unnecessary punishment of course but I rather get the benefit that has never been turned off even with Ortega and Chan sung Jung fight I got both those fights even though I got rocked in my other fights these fights I kind of was more coherent I'm not complain about stop this or anything like that and I could see why they stopped it but in the great fight scene the Benson Henderson fight where I got up kicked I don't remember any of those fights and I remember like three or four rounds of those fight cuz it was so wild the de Ortega fight I got rocks pretty good and I remember in my head saying I just short time left let's get through let's get through it obviously didn't make it to the end and you know what I did I remembered being coherent even this last one with it but Korean zombie I remember the ref saying you know you got to do something down there got to do something down there and I'll keep trying to do my best my body made for us to react knew I needed to be but yeah you know I never been turned off if that's a good thing or not but I know if it's a good thing either it's like people say if you get turned off it's better because then you your you don't absorb as much punishment or I heard that argument but then if you do get turned off your body gets turned off easier next time that's that's pretty true yeah had a bunch of fights we don't remember most of the fight like that that's a thing that a lot of Fighters don't necessarily talk about but it's a reality of hard fights with gray where evil thing was that the referee I remember fourth-round mark my coach Mark was like you know telling me we got one more round in my head on my one more round 3 and 4 I didn't remember at all and also I when I dropped me I rolled my ankle really bad. Sprint and I remember in the fourth round coming to if my ankles hurt men like what happened to I've no idea what I'm angle and Abel. Walking back and I was kind of you know I don't know sometime you get rock to get depressed for some reason I never said you going to the gym when you get what I got rock they I got a little bit of depression going on for some reason like what does it feel like when you said yourself and there's a video of me like that was a second fight nothing ever fight the third fight you stop talking but you won't write the f****** fights that you had with gray we're so crazy they were so cute he was so big is Big Boy man it's so big for 55 and you were guarding cut any weight at all wow that's crazy only just like f****** I'm a champ want to watch that one that's why I was like a champ why should I go down I mean I'm winning I'm beating these guys even the best fights ever super close so you know I could have went either way and but I just felt you know I'll go down now I lost two in a row here with me know what more can I gain from your let me go down to 45 and that's that's when I thought I'll do fruit for the the 45 how about when you think about it like if you had a chance to do it all over again like if you had to engineer your career all over again would you do it exactly the same way with your 555 you definitely would against BJ right yeah I mean you can't go back and change it all worked out for me and I got the world title I had a problem you know I'm back continuing to have a pretty good career there's always things you wish you could do differently you know I can't be like I was going to say I wish that things went the way they went well they went pretty f****** good change it all worked out for me and I got the world title I had a prayer meeting at continuing to have a pretty good career there's always things you wish you could do differently you know I can't be like I was going to say I wish it is forces that things went the way they went well they went pretty f****** good

yeah I'm not complaining BJ Penn fight so I remember the first one in Abu Dhabi I was there for that one of their holy s*** that was those a big victory Matt and he has big head of the second was probably even better jobs that you know more than I didn't really want you know and I felt like to be to have my back in the second fight and I thought are all the guys that I've ever seen fire I've never seen anybody who controls people with the legs the way BJ does he's got the craziest dexterity in his legs he does I heard when he was younger he could stand up and put his leg over his head standing up Jesus Christ I don't know if that's true like just lift it up but he worked on it like this whole thing a lot of people to realize if this is some great videos of BJ stretching and he would stretch with bands so he has all this crazy like you would grab his foot like put on his chest got bands and it wasn't just natural ability it was also lucky to realize realize that his legs were like other arms like he has heat when you were in his credible news one-of-a-kind I think you know of underground and this is a fighter I mean I looked up to him coming up and he was the man licking licking blood off his hand to the 10-year anniversary party up in Concord I don't think anyone wants them to fight but finish crazy brawl in Hawaii yeah that's how I also like a fighter for fighting teacher down in Hawaii I think a lot of people get down that's why they get down over there I think it down tough motherfukers in Hawaii for sure you know that fight that was so sad to watch like that do Clifton with a left hook and dropped and bounces head off the concrete in like 5 hit me a video of him having a guy God damn it I mean you never know Gavin the street fights his open the trunk come right back and throw someone their head and it don't make up bouncers and who's working with the sky and Sky got in a fight with a patron punch the guy knocked him out and I felt bang his head off the ground died wow dude 1.2 in jail time that happens are the story of some wrestlers kind of same thing done with fight people guy up slime with head and end up in jail oh my God

yeah those coaches are like okay guys breathe I don't want my coach told me to breathe in the corner know how to Breathe by right said don't give good advice find some guys I think Mark got some flak for the Marlins fight or he was in the corners like your mother raised you but you no answer because he knew he didn't need technique he needed some motivation at that point was Marlon too big they lose too much weight to get down to 35 and was he depleted or was it so who do just steamroll them I just think the moment you know I think moral and hit him with some good shots and shots forward I think kind of just demoralize mall in a little bit like in Hawaii in my eyes to who do is not going to be able to take much more of the legs I thought for sure and I first found my dislikes not going to distance yeah I thought Marlon was going to keep dropping at the lake but Marlon let's who do close the distance and once you let so who do close to distance to get ahold of him start hitting with knees and I was like Jesus Christ yeah so who doesn't even like I mean he just wasn't even react with knees I felt like I felt like he was just depleted it seems like he didn't have the energy to fight the kind of fight that so who tows won the fight especially so who do at 35 right so who do I-25 is draining himself looking at but soohoo. 35 is much healthier and he has a wieners Minds away is the video that he makes pretty ridiculous a su marido SE come on bended knee I mean I guess that's do not have a stick now you know guess they do because it keeps him out there it's it's just it's weird cuz this port is part of that right it's like part there's his part promotion but it's also performance it's like guys like Connor The Perfect Blend the act like he's just just beat him himself the Conners some of these other guys man it's just rough forced and it's rough but look like Colby Covington Colby Covington it talked his way to a Goddamn title should he really didn't answer before he fought in Brazil but that's what did it mean that's literally what did and then that character just took off you go and look at the early versions of that character had a nice suits like you had a like a real crisp suit like Connor would wear but then later he's got these please not being easy but he's trying to clean his image of a little bit Cowboy think that's it maybe was Cowboys kind of easy to get along with and what not or maybe it's just that he's been dealing with so much you know what they could leave when I was in Vegas that f****** those Billboards were everywhere on cars and s*** spawn to the Bellator cage too but I also think I don't think he felt like he needs psychological warfare with with cowboy I feel like he thought from the beginning that he had a giant advantage over Cowboy if you go back to each other in half I think he just felt like this fight like I can just be a nice guy with this guy with khabib I think you felt like you had a talk with them I feel like he felt that he had to get khabib emotional the same when he got all the emotional but that's it didn't work that motherfukers up he's a vault you look in his eyes you just see nothing but Doom he and I he's with khabib I think you felt like you had a talk with them I feel like he felt that he had to get khabib emotional the same when he got all do emotional but that s*** didn't work that motherfukers up he's a vault you look in his eyes you just see nothing but Doom he and I he's

conspiracy theories that Connor through the fight or Cowboy through the fight with Connell husband and I had my cousins like I can't believe what people are crazy. Stephen A Smith and I like you alot but you're wrong Cowboy got Cowboy got f***** up with those shoulders in the Clans he had cars arms tied up and they're in tight spaces Connor dip slow and slams this bone of his shoulder into the nose and he's at the beginning of the round Connors up f****** super explosive guy super explosive all muscles f****** pulled tight the beginning of the fight and just he got off good shots and cowboy was confused meme flustered I don't think there's those shots maybe Rock them a broken nose and that kid rock I guess he's not breathing out of his nose now and then all the sudden he's like f*** my nose is already f***** up and he hasn't even punched me and you know it was it was unusual like I could see if someone has a peripheral understanding of the sport and you see that happen like come on man or even guys like Mike Bisping like Mike Bisping was like f****** shoulder strike dad said Mike Bisping is without a doubt one of the toughest human being has ever walked the face the planet like if he lost an ear but died in the war got them off on the wrong foot then Cowboy through a Kik to Connors arms and then Connor Conte County with a head kick Rock Cowboy the bad and then Connor hits him with pistons he hit it how do hard people could say it was a work he broke his f****** orbital bone yeah and that but Stephen A Smith said that he felt like cowboy quit he did not quit you got smashed their nose broke and and a broken orbital it's also you who you're talking about you're talking about a guy was the most fights in the UFC the most finishes in the UFC the most head kick Knockouts in UFC the most the most bonuses in UFC Cowboy is a f****** Legend he is a tough as they come he's lost before every human can lose especially if I do guys like Darren till and horny moms with off and these f****** animals he's fighting and Connor broke it finally broke his face he broke his nose and a broken orbital bone so so Stephen A Smith responded and then Connor responded and entertaining guy and is very knowledgeable about other sports this is not his wheelhouse and also that style of dismissing athletes and putting people. Like sometime maybe find what listen to him he's a fun guy to listen to me he talks great s*** you know but I wonder I mean I'm sure that's all players are kind of saying the same stuff we're saying when he's criticizing basketball player self or football players you don't even know I'm sure I'm sure and a lot of the tickets like the controversy is like good radio show for 3 hours is it after that so like all day long back in for the two of them yelling and arguing very entertained yeah that's his position all right I just think that this sport demands more appreciation more respect and it Demands a higher level of reverence to the athletes who literally pull it put their lives on the line I don't think you have to say that I quit to to describe describe what happened you could just talk about what Connor did that was so special you look the guy finds tricky ways to do things and those shoulder strikes like we've seen guys do shoulder shrugs before but we never saw anybody do it successfully but you got to think about the UFC is a lot of what happens in the UFC is someone at all these fights finally does something and then other people start doing that thing like you member when no one was throwing front kicks to the face nobody ever did it I don't remember anybody ever even a kickboxing people very rarely through a front kick to the face just wasn't you know they would keep right of somebody but they didn't even teach to the face was something strange thing you very rarely snap front kick with a ball of the foot now almost like an uppercut the way it comes off one of these two Justin Buchholz got RKO with it outside of the UFC the devastating Lyoto Machida did that jumping front kick to Randy code I I guarantee you now when people get tied up in the clinch and someone holding someone with double overhook for whatever I do remember how Connor had a hold of our Cowboy helicopter on the right over when I was over there when someone's tied up in the clinch you can't strike trike with the one there's nothing out there there's something there yeah it's I could see how Stephen Smith would not think that that was effective I could see but for me it was clearly effective they were hard shots there's a lot of power behind it is a lot of explosion Connor dipping his level and coming up and slamming into it was kind of crazy but even if you take that away the hike to finish I mean guy who Rises to the occasion the Cowboys had problems in the past with these really big fights and 1/2 he look nervous as f*** and he talks in here that so they're playing a video of him describing how nervous he gets before fight and how he is Rose up right on us. that's what I was thinking I was outside f*** he does not need to hear that that's what I'm in the locker room when I'm in the locker room and the TV is on what was like turn that volume down I don't hear anybody talking about my fight turn that s*** down good for you good for you when I see a guy in the locker room and I'm talkin I try to pop them up yeah I want I want to feel good need to hear that that's why I'm in the locker room when I'm in the locker room and the TV sign was like turn the volume down I don't hear anybody talking about my fight turn that s*** to good for you good for you I mean I'm cognizant of that when I see a guy in the locker room and I'm talkin I try to pop them up yeah I want I want to feel good

have any striking experience before that and none none at all by Boardwalk that's about it so what was it like going from just be straight wrestling to learning how to strike and Russell together it was it was learning process you know early in my career as able to take everybody down in those early fights but I had some pretty good fights in before UFC at 4 at the davidia East something davidia she was Ukraine Syfy. report WCVB some good guy so he was decent of they will take him down there for Jim Miller action my last fight for UFC and I was so we had a crazy fight so you know I had good opponents right away but the strike and you know I was always in the boxing growing up jerseys you know I'm not from the hood or by any means but everyone fights Ron from you know it's kind of like to see someone go to Seaside look for flights Joey Diaz talking about itself Jim Miller is a f****** beast he is a beast it was so glad he's healthy now because that guy struggled yeah so long with line to CMI my wife has it actually going down when I see 2007 everybody gets it in these crazy and it's just they say that we did this we look at this map online of all the areas in the east coast where Lyme disease is prevalent and how what percentage of the tip it's bananas it's it's my wife neuron acquitted too cuz you know she's had to go through a bunch of Dino treatments and what not and is it still with her right now it is it's not as much but she's got like a bunch of issues like autoimmune stuff I did and she's hot she's doing she's does the IV treatments to sunlight therapy so when I take the blood out running through UV then put it back in yet she's not a lot a lot a stomach feel better pajama think you changed his diet I think that was a big one just really starting clean yamo if he's pretty clean she's she's you know kind of holistic is Stipe person yeah the the Lyme disease things f****** terrifying because for a long time they were diagnosing it incorrectly like people didn't know whether what I'm is eat and people come in with all sorts of aches and pains and if they didn't have that big bull's-eye mark on them or the tick bit them the doctor really had no idea what was going on and some doctors didn't have a lot of experience I got it when I was young did you yeah but I had seen the tech so I got my medicine right away and I was fine but they say if you don't see the tech and then you still know you have it and then if you don't get eye medicine right away then you're f***** and send you a pie ever like it's not even that Lyme's disease it's the other diseases get attached to it disease they think that like you're imagining things cuz they would imagine they like fibers were growing out of their scabs and they scratch themselves like crazy but I had some good Insight we we did a television show called Joe Rogan questions everything and we we had some one of the conversations I had was with a doctor who has lyme disease and that's when things got interesting because he was aware of it not just as a person who has the disease but also as a doctor he said one thing that all these people that have Morgellons have in common is that they all have Lyme disease and Heath set Lyme disease is not just one thing that it's a host of other things are attached for Lyme disease like non identified pathogens and that some of them have some sort of neurotoxic effect that changes the way you see things so he was seeing things like there weren't there I keep seeing worms crawling around as I that weren't weren't even there when I went there and he realize like okay this is probably what more Jones is like these people are thinking that things there's nothing there but it's really because the Lyme disease and all the other toxins and pathogens that rhyme with it or f****** with your neurology to f****** with your brain yeah yeah my wife said brain fog is the biggest thing that that bothers her you know and she went through a period where she was always tired and it's crazy cuz my wife you would never guess that cuz she's super high-energy she works out everyday and I'll push it through that pushes through it Council Tree when people had chronic fatigue syndrome is all of his UFC money he spent treating his wife for Lyme disease he's a prison guard now when did the doctors didn't recognize to the doctors he was like I think might be Lyme disease the doctors didn't think so and his son started getting Bell's Palsy so fat half his face and his son was little things like for 5 half his face was going to have them my wife actually should help positive one time I think she got a flu shot she said and then came home to have Bell's palsy some of the vaccine was people were in this is including my managers dad took the vaccine and got Lyme disease from the vaccine that you got was the wrong one for whatever who was in the area ring from last year and then there's the new strain this year so it's not even really helping you while I think there's multiple strains each year and I think they're basically just had yet her background are guessing I don't take flu shots now he'll know but I I think they do work if you get lucky the right one, but I don't think that it always works in the in the in the flu shot case I'm not sure cuz like sometimes sometimes they just get it wrong with the wrong strain what do we know what we know I know it's hard enough for the shots subject anyway morons the government investigating the idea that Lyme disease was biological War are weapon that accidentally got released but this is through like legitimate channels they were investigating it wasn't like some f****** tinfoil hat job they release it on the East Coast I guess they wanted to really think it got out I think the idea is that somehow or another this disease had accidentally Escape their Labs or while they were in the middle of treating people is it ticked only way to get Lyme's disease I believe so I think it's deer ticks is that have a high population of deer also have a high population these ticks and then when people get it it's less you know most of them don't realize they have until it's too late so you don't realize you have it and then you missed the early rounds of antibiotics which can knock it out and then you get this chronic state like Jim Miller has your wife house and my buddy Steve rinella that had it he was f***** up I mean bad for free 6-month when I saw him he look like he lost and he's a slim guy but he looks like he's a lot headlock 20 or 30 lb and it was just said he just been dealing with the the Lyme disease is it genetic kill them I mean not kill them but just just really diminished because it's a weird because you you can't find anybody who doesn't know anybody who has it everybody knows a brother or cousin or wife someone has a mile of running Thousand Trails Lake in the summertime it's like Mandy's just some sometimes to get pics or my kids all my kids going out in it I think it takes 24 hours for it to set in so like once you once you do come back if you have a tick on you just have to remove every time we go in the woods with tank tracks how do you get him off you though it's like it's in the middle of your back by yourself House of Gold House to Howard off work so it's not improving but there are some people I believe that think that this is a thing it just would be very hard to do is with the end of the US House of Representatives Chris Smith New Jersey Republican New Jersey registration legislation directing the Department of Defense who claims the Pentagon research tipped bass viol weapons in the mid-twentieth century the amendment pass Smith said he was inspired by a number of books and articles suggesting that significant research had done the US government facilities including Fort Detrick Maryland and Plum Island New York to turn ticks and other insects into bio weapon created a disease and now everyone is yellow tablet because it's mostly out there that's what I'm a place in Connecticut if you heard of the rocky mountain tick and it's not kind of the West Coast version of wealth taxes if you like chicken and fish shoot me what is that in the first cases of it were there in 1975 goddamn government weapons that they were developing over there coronavirus stuff for Bio weapon facility opened in Wuhan my oblique just like this have you consulted with Sam Tripoli already bottle

yeah I was I was just nature special on the animals that hang upside down in Australia that's their furry and cute wallabies is on one side of the river and he can hear a mating call from the other side of the river and he's slow as s*** swalla female sloth and he f****** but they watch this guy go down the tree across a limb into the water can't swim for s*** this f****** Rapids makes his way across a colic crossclimate takes like two days and then he finds of a sloth and he climbs on top of a couple of shakes of the hip

and so this strength and conditioning coach that you've been working with in the beginning or what give us a regular routine for you like what kind of ship is he have you do so we just started getting back in there literally last week so we took a little time off and I went and had a cast on so then I go to Vegas and and I talked to the doctors you know that you'll see Doc in those guys in Vegas and you know it's not broken you know it's just saw an issue with the ligaments you can see seen this right hand right here at the bottom you can clearly see the ligament and all working there but then here there's that bump in between so they don't come out as much and that's causing me I don't have I didn't I don't have the strength like you know being able to pull in this is a big part of my game is if I get around you I got a body like I don't care what you doing you just not getting me off right I just I've spent years just working on that grip to where you just not do not let me off until I let off and so now I'm not being able to do that but it's it's healing fast and I was in Vegas in there we can just cut the gas off and make you a hard removable one that I can take off on and off so I can shower because I was a thing you stuck in his calves for 4 weeks can't really shower with their you got to shower with your arm up in the air on your handstand stitches and you I got to stick stuff in there and and psychologically I started getting a little anxiety with it too cuz it's like I can't get this thing off my head doing everything but no fry and no fracture which is good news so I don't have to be out for too long did you send me the tape of like when you hurt her and training say it like so it's one of those things where you hit with the thumb hit it with my phone cuz you know when you got those big gloves off you know you can't really make a full fit wrap so your hands kind of in there like this so you throw a punch the wrong way or somebody comes into your wrong way it's like boom you heard it so I heard it at one of my gosh everything's going through my head I got this guy's been talking s*** for years and everybody in the world is telling me you have to kill this guy you can't be that you can't lose to him now I'm going through all this in my mind though I can't be that guy I can't lose tonight I can lose to that guy and then it's like then unlike it feels a little better I'm going hard so I started pouring boom right away hurt again in a couple times I almost cry and you're getting it taped up more but even so it is still hurting but then he gets to a point where I'm just tired s*** got to block it out you know 525 I gotta block it out so I'm going to dressing room and train everything's okay I block it out not even thinking about it and thinking about going to work when I get in there in first round I don't even remember this remember throwing it boom something's wrong and I'm just like I could play it off play it off and then Prosecco VIII you know he comes on and then he's you know he's doing his job he's fighting me okay you know but after that some point I never thought I'm going to lose this fight cuz I never think like that it's like all I'm not a loses fight even if it's something not going my way I just I'm going to death if I would like the score cards at the end of the fight or very close yeah I knew it was closed for the first time ever I asked my coaches did I win that round I've never in my career than that I'm the type of guy even when I was resting on the red type of wrestler who I like to run up the scoreboard I don't like these live and leave any doubt that I won that round I'm going to dominate around I'm going to make sure I want to in my head I know I want I need to ask for the first time in my career I went back my that we're not around that we're not around eye but I even buy me asking that I never thought or I'm not going to finish this fight I always knew I was going but I just like I was that I would not that I went that I don't know why I don't know how or what was going on in my head but for some reason I ask I was asking so I knew the fight was close it was a good f****** fight man it was a good fight the thing about Kobe has he tricks you into thinking he sucks cuz he's got a goofy suit on and he talks crazy and you know he wears a Maga hat and all that stuff but but that if you didn't see any of that if you just watch them fight the fucken put up a saint people allow you to Robbie Lawler I was like good Lord like nobody does that the Robbie Lawler I keep put up walking pace on him and just stayed on him like guys have wrestled him before Robbie you know like got a hold of them dragging down try to make it a you know what state you know try to stall them out that's not what Kobe did Kobe 2 stuck on him like glue and put that pace on them yeah I mean he really he really doubt he really showed you know like how good he is and I mean I give respect to respect no hater you know I know this kid to fight I know he was good I know you was tough and I know he's a competitor as well he's always been a competitor I knew guys I want wrestling teams with this guy you know besides Jon Jones I knew other guys you know that I'm good friends with that wrestled with him so I've always known that he was a competitor that he was going to come out and try to compete you know but I like I said I just mentally I think I'm just on a different level than these guys just because everything that I've been through that I've done in my life has shaped me into and I am the mentally I'm I'm just on a different level than them when you have to have that attitude I just I felt it I knew and I felt it even and now I'm so more so than ever because now you've got all the fans by Anil on on what he's got his fans you got everyone has fans that are going to talk s*** to make it worse that you had a close fight which is kind of crazy where is pretty f****** nuts mean you win a title over won the basketball toys of all time at Tyron Woodley and you just dominate him right if they get all the other guys dos anjos those guys you smashed and white mean that's you had a crazy run up to the title and then a crazy title-winning effort and then this was the first time we saw you in like a very close 5 yeah I mean he's a tough guy at the end of the day you know to make fantastic fights you got to have dance partner razor needed Ali each other and he was there right dance for an end to be honest with you you know if I didn't take too much out of him because each fight takes something from you you know internally so if I didn't take too much from him I think I might see him again to be honest because I like it's clear that we are the two best guys in the division and so yeah I mean I look forward to seeing them again I think you guys will see each other again stop in the fear of looking down yes the looking bad is just like hanging over their head I'm about to get knocked out everyone's going to laugh, because that's very great with me that's very rude I am Brazil oh my God I can wait for you to kill this guy I'm in Dominican Republic became speak English cuz they're like I can't wait for you to check and everywhere so I can imagine me going out there and what I was feeling I had to really I took advice from Richard I had to really make friends with that feeling that accept it I'll tell you what man after weigh-ins when Susie pay the Nigerian flag on your face and you staring them down and used big smile on your face you look so calm and I was like that guys ready to work for you were so composed at the way and I was like there's no bulshit there was no f*** you there was no no emotions you just had a big smile on your face yeah I mean it's at some point you get to the word it's no longer the talking like you got to sell a fight here and there you know this and that but I try to stay as true to myself as possible I obviously understand people want to be entertained and I'm going to do the best I and now I'm selling a fight without going too far out of myself but we're not when that contract is signed and I know that I have to go in and take care of business there's no more of that like I have to be myself I have to be real and this guy said a lot of things that were very very personal you know a lot of things about my previous manager you know a lot of things about my team my current manager you know in a lot of things about my my my family and my situation as well as far as my father that to wear it it really hit home to where it's the best way for me to teach you a lesson. Picone in there fighting angry I have to go in there being calculate like my normal self and really teach you a lesson because anything you say can and will be used against you inside that article was he I'm coming hope you're ready tomorrow I'm coming PC and so calm to hit a big-ass smile on her face, but but you know what I look at these guys I'm looking for more than just that like I'm reading his body I'm reading everything and he's looking at me the whole time and he did the best cuz I know he's a competitor he did the best he could to hide his fear you know and I was afraid to I'm afraid I'm afraid everyone these fights you got to be afraid but I make friends with and I'm okay with being afraid I'm not mad I am okay with that so I'm watching him and there's there's a moment if you see that weigh in video with the stare-down what year did you know after we stare down was there. And I watch them I'm watching the whole time just watching them he's doing his good job is trying to stay on me stay on me stay on me stay on me than he looks away and I just read his body I'm just like okay I know how worried he is I know how worried he isn't it weird let you know that your opponent is worried you know everyone's worried right everyone but you kind of see it yes you could fuc yourself in your mind that this guy is not even scared yeah I'm scared and he's not yes you can mind f*** yourself you know you know it's not even like everyone before I cage fight has to be nervous absolutely and and yeah it's weird because I'm I'm looking at him and I'm studying and I'm seeing the level of fear that he has and you know I'm I'm trying to assess the level of fear weather is it something I can deal with or something that it going to have no choice is very confident but you know I can see where a house Superior I was in there to him my level of fear and his level of fear I can see where they were at because in the end you got to be mindful of his level of fear as well because you are caged animals very dangerous animals you know and so I can I'm seeing them and that's kind of how the way he that was that went I watch that fight again the other day I was playing in the gym while I was working out like that is a crazy Pace like you f****** came out guns blazing I mean it in my opinion is one of the very best Welterweight Title Fight ever I mean it was epic it was epic. The pace I'm watching watching the little moment just didn't read his spirit I felt the spirit at that moment and I'm just like it's not the same I was saying like I'm going to hurt this kid's not the same but he's going to come out as going to fight but I'm going to hurt him no point in that fight that I think I was ignoring him when you drop them in the final round he stopped the fight when you when you dropped me so I can go down what was going through your head I was at, I'm heading now I'm heading to kiss at you know when you when you landed punch good you don't really feel it and so at that moment I was kind of clipping in my was connect everything I clipped him with what he was feeling the power at that point and I've heard him a few times before but everyone kept talking about is pasted pasted ms9 and I carry power all the way through out that's how I train the power is going to be the same the way I hit mess with my coaches Henry hoot and all these it's all the same it's not all tap tap tap tap tap. little bit of power here.... Yes I know how to do that I know how to mix it up like boxes do they know how to put a little bit into this distract you with this didn't touch with that I know how to do that too but I carry the power all the way through out to buy V around when I hit him with that I think I had them in the body and I hit her up punch I hit him with the right hand that stun him and he stumbled back and at that point I was in I was in the chest in the driver seat I'm like okay I'm feeling in my left foot bone that hurt the one they hurt him because I have not really feeling the punches here and then when I put that cannon on his face blown when he went down so I got to stay relaxed a relaxed we got time you know the goal is to get him out of here I'm not going to jump on him cuz I made that mistake before I dropped the guy now jumped on him going crazy trying to get him out of there and stay on just stay relaxed and I'm going to get a nut and at that point I was just in the you get to a certain zones will you see him coming inside is it going by and then I'll and the other one that he drives and I'm going to say okay did you recognize the something's wrong with his jaw bone there is no I watch the fight over in my coat in my corner told me that his jaw was broken I didn't even hear them I didn't even hear that were you surprised I know what I am saying is it was might have been an early stoppage but they use you if you watch that last like that 30 second before that you see the shots that he was taking like I hit him with that right hand bully stumbled back almost fell down then I was wondering if they knew that his jaw was broken I mean that stupid but if you see him take shots like that you just got dropped twice and now you're holding onto a leg and now this is just a earmuff you're trying to protect yourself and have no sign of stopping you know that's the referee's job to get in there and it stopped you you know and I know some guys like all this should have let him go to try to fire you should have let him get knocked out completely your this and that you know but it's a referee is not doing his job in protecting you if if that happens it's interesting that you said every fight takes a little bit out of you and that's I think that's important for people to hear because you know we've all seen Fighters and we go to boxing perfect examples of meldrick Taylor when he fought Julio Cesar Chavez vs meldrick Taylor was winning the fight but Shabbos just kept the pressure on a cat the pressure on was beating his body beating his body kept the pressure on him and then finally with the like literally I think the fight was stopped at 4 seconds to go yeah Richard Steele waved it off and meldrick Taylor stood up and he talked to him you tell him I wasn't a was out of it and they stop the fight another tale was never the same again it was never the same Terry Norris start the amount that he starts slurring his words it was real bad was like that one fight took everything out of them yeah there's there's some people don't really see me everyone's attracted to Violent everybody wants to see the violence they want to see you get hit I want to see you hit someone they want to see the blood you know but people don't see what this takes away from your spirit each fight win or lose it takes something from you like only myself and Colby Covington or going to know what that fight did to us now can I do it now and do it again next week I have no problem doing it yet but each and every fight takes something away from you but is it a balanced out more so for sure take a beating right but if is it balanced out by hard training and recuperation to he can maintain the exact same level or is every fight your like slightly less good than you were before but you're so much better that you still have enough leeway that not that as far as preparation in training all of that stuff yet that that account so yeah that takes takes away from you but I'm saying the act of actually fighting the fight from your spirit from your energy that takes away from you because all you mean like your ability to get up for it until your your your ability to up to fight another man your ability to that bravado to fight another person that that spirit that kills Spirit it takes away from you or any going to get add to it changes that spirit in some shape form or fashion absolutely does it is there's this video a while back I forget the fighter he was a wrestler turn fighter and he's like bleach blonde hair I forget his name but I think the video was caught on Faded Glory I think USA Wrestling me then put it together and had all these rappers on in bed you know Brandon slate rebelde login with my team a lot of different you know it was on that video and I watch that while I was training for the 2012 Olympic trying to make the team and that video stays with me change my mentality or how to think because you really put things in perspective because you go out there and you battle this hard match and you lose to this guy like Joe I want hundreds of wrestling matches I can't remember hardly any of them the ones that I've lost all her most of them why is that because someone took something away from my spirit somehow I remember he's the one they took something away from me like I can tell you really the fights out of one MMA fights I can really I don't really care that much about I went and I move on but the one that I lost o yeah I know exactly why I knew what happened on you know what happened in that fly I can tell you really the fights on one MMA fight I can really I don't really care that much about I went and I move on but the one that I lost o yeah I know exactly why I knew what happened on you know what happened in that fly

that's one of the more interesting things about the sport this all these trade-offs so you want to have that Super One Shot knockout power will any not going to be able to do it very often you know you blow your gas out it's like having a big V8 engine you step on the gas that drains that tank it's true you see it though with with explosive guys Riley Connor yeah he comes out hot yeah I mean maybe that'll all go away if you stays at 170 and your fighting guys are 205 I mean like extremely tired and I've had this conversation is Brennan think. Give me this whole Spiel cuz I was on I was on his show below the belt as well and we had this conversation right before the fight happened and she goes to shoot on I-57 you know it's a different game and Shannon and he knows and he knew with the fight that he knew the computers going to try to take him down to be remembered during that we went through five or six upon its members to do pedestal be somebody else will be there all these people. fight in the fighting someone like Aliquippa who's a f****** Savage that guy like he's so good people never never never gets the credit you deserve absolutely Savage and it just a gamer and so when you have to shoot on someone I know how tall is 5758 you know but it's a lot harder to get low on someone like that and get the takedown him so when I go tell him that fight inferior takedown that much your natural reaction is to drop your hands real quick to try to get the Ender hooks screw that right hand like a fastball to you at a whip so what he that's in all the years I've trailer them he's just learned what he does he drops and dips his head and comes back over with the overhand left of the overhand right and it Finds Its Mark he sees it before he throws it and most guys will just throw blindly he dips his head comes back up and he sees his shot and then he throws it it it's different in the majority of the time Atlanta and it Finds Its Mark he sees it before he throws it and he most guys will just throw blindly he dips his head comes back up and sees his shot and then he throws it it it's different in the Maggiore the time and lands and I've been on the other end of that s*** I'm quite a bit

so there this different you know like this so sneaky over there I don't know if it's called sneaky they just they really want to I've been okay now is what she would have fought me cuz you got knocked out then I buy kickboxer cuz they made him fight a kickboxer they really want to they want to put bikes together that people don't expect to happen then we saw always fight the big sumo guy and big hunk Mansion wouldn't fight Bob Sapp his prime is like Mario f*** out of here I'll drive it was like no no no that's an injury you keep the rest of your life yeah J-3 75% clean dude when I met him like if you stand next to him you just go wee-wee way what in the f*** are you what are you what is this new type of human being so big I never talk to him I just made an interesting career right like yeah he was an enormous superstar in Japan it's hard for us to understand like they were selling dolls of him and posters and he was huge but then he ran afoul with K1 remember there was an event where they didn't have a contract for him to know he was supposed to fight and it's like where's the contract like you will give you the contract after the fight I need a contract I need I need to know what the f*** is happening here then he walked out and when he walked out they decide they're going to ruin them yeah it was that night it was still willing to fight yeah my sister grant for a minute 20 gets tagged with a little ones I had something that's a wrap he swings until things get weird I'm going down orbital broken by Cro Cop remember he liked one of his eyes looks weird like one on is open really wide it's cuz of Cro Cop which is crazy like okapis like 220 you know and f****** hit him so hard with straight left a fractured eye socket stop was literally more than a hundred pounds bigger than him was that with kickboxing gloves you took him down I think it was a kickboxing fight well he beat arnesto who's twice yep which is crazy and who's had him really hurt dog shots the body f***** his legs with him could put it in switching to stay with one or two times that was before he decided to 121 with the Wind Rob when I was watching it and heat there were like the elite show me the tour already and they turn to Bob Sapp you like cheese his head was here and then his neck started right where his head crests like his neck went all the way to the edge of his shoulders like that is the biggest human being I've ever seen in my life it goes like just from his ear to and when he picked up Minotaur off and pile driving was like oh my God left leg left leg gets through pass through pass through here like the fighter can here at the opponent can hear it is very strange never been to our gym cuz it's not quite at all Jack and God fight him who was it I want to say his name was best suitcase to get a lock on the Amazon real good Jiu-Jitsu guy phenomenal just a guy keeps going for no more I mean like in a minute but in any other organization I probably would have lost because I could hear crazy Bob and Dave Camarillo and I'm like and it was I can hear my albums called and I can just feel you know you need some kind of stretching and tearing a little bit Crystal Clear get the feet off your face get the back to the locker room because I was trying to reach for the feet and he's yelling I swung around for those that He bar in a perfect position was at the new bar in the fight ended like that is a minute 20 minute there's like that so but it was one of those one of those things that they do in Japan where the cultures is so different over there it's really quiet past the guard this is a little weird get used to that and then if you go to fight in the UFC is must be overwhelming for Japanese guys so used to fighting over there with that took total quiet and they come to Vegas it's like just bleed guys and then if you go to fight in the UFC it's must be overwhelming for Japanese guys so used to fighting over there with that took total quiet and they come to Vegas it's like just bleed guys with me

phrases that these moments happen where something changes and Sport nobody goes off let's do that and then a lot of people start doing it like when Anderson knocked out Vitor that front kick to the face yes and it was funny because when you take MMA and you didn't remember what it stands for and people for the longest time like always just wrestle most of Muay Thai and it was wrestling they never went outside that box and then guys like Stephen Thompson in the cheetah came in you know now you see MVP but when you see these guys they're bringing in a different Dynamic that works for them they would do it their whole life so you're not going to be able to adapt everything that they do you can still a couple little things from them you know I don't know if you recall but I was like the first guy that did that little I used to use my heel to the your thigh walk for a week you know cuz I would just healing it boom boom boom and the fight was only the first round know it so you have things like that and then BJ Penn said with Matt Serra Master kept punching him right in the hip bone he's like like for almost two weeks because little things make a big difference I wonder if they got rid of that those kicks to the kidneys are the kidneys Hello Kitty kick you in the head is okay kidney the back of the heads illegal but when you roundhouse kick a guy in the head a lot of times you hitting your head around the back of the head it's not illegal stop. That's how you break bricks and you can't do that to a person and he basically just like and then Vargas Lorenzo it said he wanted to fight for it and John goes look let's just leave them alone as long as we can still do it from the guard we can still do it from any other angle that has a little bit of an angle this will be the day that's what's great like I don't know there's a lot of things I don't know about the actual rules and give one hand down I feel like I look for me I've always thought that you should feel need to head when you're on the ground like if I stuff your takedown I see only your head right there on all fours right doesn't matter if you're not against the cage the cage is the only argument against we didn't allow elbows on the ground and people like them the reason I don't like him is it just at the time it's Sean Sherk was the champ and I was like it was in a lot of movement it was like here and he was so small as bad guys in the fight was stopped and for the actual fan at home watching the fight not all fans like to watch blood good fight and so I felt like when they have elbow imposter up it creates more space Chris more space listen to just a guy do his moves as well as try to get back to the feet you know I can back out and try to go big ground pound there's a lot of things that you can buy them for variation in the ground but not elbows cuz you got cuz he stopped by a cut Washington and by knockout I would like to be able to use everything I think nice to the ground but also elbows I think everything. I just think that especially the need of the ground like you shouldn't be okay that you should take down and then you're safe yeah from one cuz you're on all four that seems crazy to me. You're not safe it should be the rest was forced to roll to their back to avoid the knee to get the f*** away it doesn't make any sense that you in the center of the Octagon you wouldn't be able to hold on and need someone in the head look on John Fitch one of my best friends came but to watch how he fought Roy McDonald like for the fan sake it's not a fun fight to watch like you grab the leg in the guys like pushes out lip legs out and then you chase them on your neat your hands and knees and you're fishing for the legs but it's just not a fun fight and also to it makes it makes it look like we're doing McDonald and then all changes if you allowed needs the ground and he's so there's benefits on both sides hits back at your legs back so when that happens that you've taken yourself out of the equation of really engaging in action what you try to need me in the head now you're engaging back into the actual I can grab you and take you down to a cage how about that I think that's the problem with giant basketball court sized matted area the World Combat League with Chuck Norris out of Rio and then the was it called the f****** meyerowitz the guy who started the UFC tomorrow it's a it's a weird name he came up with some weird name for the pit it like we was like so play some guys going to run a lot as it is an interesting thing karate Combat League or whatever it's called what is it called karate combat karate, karate fights and they fight inside this area but they have this elevated outside but this is just and upright isn't it I believe so yeah but was it's interesting to cuz they weren't pants but they're throwing low kicks and shedding their black belts on like it's like all right black belts on like it's like all right here this is a commentary on that their morphine that changing it to trying to evolve it but

that there was a thing about you guys though like it was for us young guys coming up like you guys were like Peter Pan's like you were you would live in this life as what you know Boston's very blue-collar place right very hard-working place all of New England and we stumbled in as amateurs is open mikers to this environment that you know where you guys were the Kings and you guys were f****** Wildman like there's weirdos store answer pay in Cogan cuz everybody was drinking all the time and it was like everyone was laughing and yelling and I was like how is this possible how do these men do the live this life and what I was doing I was a high school teacher in the morning and then and that was that was a rough patch because I knew something had to give yeah and I tell the story that I was coming home from teaching not from the clubs at night but teaching I came up climbed up out of the gallium I'm trying to thumb to get out of your blood running down her face I have no idea how bad it was my friend when the first and was only one place in existence that that was the comedy connection on the one on Washington Street didn't know what a comedy club was what you mention that like when she was for me before us and I still have that I got them copy of the check so you really are copy of it I actually cash that I needed today and you are and that and I got hired and I'm admitting it was really good and that show that did was really good I'm doing the same 10 minutes because there's a budtender in head and the third one they called me like a night before somebody fell out can you come in and what I've done in 15 minutes that day and I thought and it was the worst of the world well you're doing this but that two or three minutes seems like an eternity and his friends so if he was witness to the fight and his friends so if he was waiting for the fight

that was the thing that was also about that was interesting about Boston comedy was that the partying like you guys are a bunch of f****** Savages I mean that's what I remember was pretty widespread that we didn't know I thought it was your mercy. How old do they catch you on somebody where's that Mike and I saw you I thought that was all we got caught a little bit of infamy A-frame I guess that just went through done in with the IRS. Donovan he got done in how do you clear that they decide how much you owe have to meet with this guy and then that guy would get fired and what's that all over again and and lawyers and yeah it wasn't wasn't pretty but it's finally get clear that they took the money they knew they were going to get the whole thing so how many years did it take to clear it up 80% interest on the fact that I didn't pee on the floor that I was up to 1500 table table Cisco nobody's better than anybody like not get in trouble

talked about you I don't know how many times many times I've heard that name error of Boston comedy when I started in 88 and you guys had already been through the Ding Ho and all that's been gone and it was the Heyday of Comedy was an amazing time and you know I was very fortunate OC guys like you and and Sweeney and you know when all those guys Mike Donovan and Kevin Knox and me go down the list over and over and over again Lenny Clarke and just amazing time for per stand-up back then yeah that was certainly the Heyday I came in and started it around 79 and it's been going on for years but not much going on wow at the antenna do you like to think people take her to a Boston style and wasn't about this. Other than being very aggressive maybe he had different ways because we didn't know and the guys are sitting at the bottom we first went in there they refused to leave so they stayed at the bus and all they would do is when you put somebody on them and then suddenly this guy came in this was supposed to put comedy in there and Barry crimmins the one of the guys freaking they'll any myself swing as you mention it like that comic right yeah I need what we didn't know was with and 15 and you do grape grape now I'm going to go up and take the mic after bus 6 minutes it was a joke it was supposed to be a tax write-off and one night of the week for Greek belly dancers where they were paid $200 so I was really an amateur but I remember watching there was a show in the upstairs room and then there was a small or downstairs room and then there was another time where they did in the Disco right they had which is a it is a disco now if it is just started up here and it was so confusing that you did on stage and just say

the sneakers that kids are wearing that have a f****** a green tag on them I was it was explained to me or we tell the Boomers now she's agreeing to f*** you not leaving this stupid plastic tag on now you don't leave that on it would it would you be able to take care of the people do that thing they're cumbersome they look dumb but where I'm on their shoots part of the same part of the grand explain it to me like I'm 5 years it's going to go away you should go to his f****** kids just cut that off and go know we're about to go to war and stupid this is probably a plot by the Russians and the Chinese and the Iranians to try to make sure the orchids grow dumber and dumber this is probably something that was started out on Instagram by one of those Ira internet research agency this is probably a plot by the Russians and the Chinese in the Iranians to try to make sure the orchids grow dumber and dumber this is probably something that was started out on Instagram by one of those Ira internet research agencies what's this that's the people that make all the propaganda from the Russian Diego Farms

when you enable say in the mid-eighties literally ID if you want a drink before like who it was wasn't that many of you right now I think I think two combination at the thing hold because we basically ran and owned the place and would stay there until he got that I don't know how but he got there around 2 in the morning and as such as having us smoking joints doing some more drinking and we're out on the stage playing cards about the thing all like it was like some legendary place you know when we've start now it closing like 84 something on Fridays I come in and I never saw chains of padlocks bigger than that in the front and back. Never to be reopened as a, if it came up Indian restaurant and in the comedy club scene branches out from Mike Houston used to have this place called The Last Stop did you ever wish that was the same thing for Houston Houston had a great little crazy and was a picture until it was when it was it was African descent have gone and Bill Hicks have laughed and all those guys were gone and yeah, early the bunch of wildfox they had a no-hitter show going on in the main room and then in the bar area that another stage and they open mic night start at 8 when till 2 in the morning so you can get done with your show the show be over at 10 and you go out to the bar and you be f****** hanging out there for another 4 hours is the show still going on it was it was crazy last back with the water balloon but you would have thought it was shot with shot by a rhino gun you know I was soaking wet when I get there I got to put on one of their t-shirts and I'm going I can't believe how this guy hit me that could get to the club it was recognized directions on the side of the window

how much longer do you think you going to compete I have no idea man I only know I'll be 40 this year oh s*** yeah that's the magic number you know the since the day I started you I didn't start till I was 23 in the process of writing my autobiography right now which I've been working on pretty consistently for the last five years something that you know I really was doing it for myself in a lot of ways to have an understanding of the things that I've been through in the things that I've learned and processed and acquired over these years which is you know in a lot of ways it's been extremely rewarding doing all this but it's also been in very difficult very pain an emotional going back through all these things that happened to me in my childhood in my upbringing and things that I'm even to this day and still trying to process and understand a lot of and where would we go summarize all this you know I grew up in a lot of different places moved around a lot and you know my parents split up very early me and my mother and three brothers four brothers sisters you know we basically lived in somebody's basement for in the beginning and we're living on welfare and bouncing around from place to place and so much of that shut me down emotionally and you know when I was a kid from what I'm told that I mean I've ever really not much recollection of my childhood cuz I'm a block someone check this out and so it's been really difficult for me to write this book because I don't really have many memories I have almost no memories of that time in my life where I felt like a child that carefreeness of childhood in North had to you know talk to siblings and friends from back then and look through photo albums and slowly things are coming together and you know that that's why a lot of this has been play therapeutic but I was a fighting I've always loved boxing and was very intrigued by it and martial arts you know Bruce Lee was always hope hero of mine and but hated violence coming up I hated it but I was intrigued by it so one of a really good friend of mine that we live in Colorado for about a year to get into fights on a weekly basis in school and I was fascinated by it like such as like a week I was very allowed like weakness took to overtake me throughout the the the events of my life and I was very shy didn't talk you know was I was always athletic and that kind of thing but but as far as confrontation in that I'd like it just shut me down and I didn't like it upset me a lot and you know what people would be angry with me and so is I had this this strange Dynamic where I was drawn to fighting and I was drawn to violence and but if I also hated it a lot and was scared by it but but over the years you know I thought about I was like, don't try boxing one day and I'll be really cool Lino's fascinated watching two people in the ring and then all these people are watching in there there with each other what other so fat their skill level and then you know what just thinking about what would it must be like in there to do that you know and fascinating me but it again like I said a lot of martial art why wouldn't be able to kick people I want to be able to the Elbow people need people and I never saw any fighting that was like that you know what it was I was coming up and you'd see Taekwondo and karate and lot of Point sparring in that kind of thing and forms and you know even that I thought was it was fascinated but I wanted to fight like boxers did and I just never really saw anything like that in one day 94 is white to Vegas I was watching ESPN I like 2 in the morning and these two have Thai fights on once in awhile and this fight came on I got this next fight is somewhat I-5 between so and so and when that started I was immediately hooked it hit something in me that just like lit me on fire like this is everything that I've been looking for this is something so different and it just spoke to my soul and in fascinated mean we're going to do this that's going to be at it's going to be more time but you know for various reasons it scared me one I didn't know how I'd be able to afford it and I might even if my parents would even let me and you know coming up the way I did I was partying and drinking all the time even at that mean I started drinking was like 12 years old keep my nerve some shaking my money out my hands wood wood wood wood Tremor I want to be drinking a lot a lot everyday I would drink every day at work all day throughout the day a little bit night I'll just be pounded 40, that's all that I did drink everyday and how did you wean yourself off that play Switchfoot what did it is as I said I I learned about it in 94 over the years every once in awhile I see a fight and I want to do this so bad in 98 I actually started calling around gyms in Vegas I was like only if I'm going to find a place to do this in for me was one of those things or if I'm going to do it I want to do it right and I want to do it to fight and if I'm going to do it to fight and what is the the the fastest way to get there and was like I need to take 11 lessons I need to I wanted to learn from a tie you know in that was not to say I would like Americans anybody else can to can't teach you but I was like if you're going to learn you might as well learn it from the source and the only place in Vegas that top Muay Thai what are the only place that even talk more instructors was Jim and I called the gym went down and talk to one of the instructors and when he let me know how expensive is feels like to be able to do this and inform me I also knew that if I am going to go after this I'm going to need to stop drinking stop partying completely alter my entire existence I'm probably going to lose all my friends everyone's going to laugh at me I didn't even know how serious I took myself you know I was like I laugh at me when I say this you know what like it's in if you knew me back then you probably left fight a stupid the stupidest thing I could ever think of and one of my best friends mohey for whatever reason this one night we were up on the roof drinking and smoking weed and he we got to talk him just about life and he was actually born with a heart defect I can't remember the exact name of the disease that he had was in the hospital so is whole life use eventually going to need to get a heart transplant aortic that Maggie was asking me what do what I want to do when I got to the moon and back what do you mean what I want to do with my life and it's like well I always wanted to fight and expecting him to laugh at me about this he's like well why don't you why don't you do it you know I told him up watch old already I was 18 at the time then and all my fears and doubts and in all these things he's like you know if anybody can do it you can he's going to think you should and I really thought I was stuck with me is like maybe I can and in that moment you know I felt very motivated and wanted to do it but by jerking you continue to drink and all these other things I just put it suppressed it into the back of my mind and then about a year later he was in the hospital and he needed to get heart transplant a basically like you're going to be here until you get one don't think any of us realized how serious it was or maybe we just didn't want to he ended up passing away while he was waiting for the transplant and that just obviously devastated me to no end and threw that knife through my drunken coping outside I'm going to do this at my go after this dream you know my friend he didn't even get a chance to fail at a dream and I'm too scared to even try for no reason just out of fear that much literally my only reason not to do this other than you know financial and all those other surface things but it really just boil down to fear and I was like you know what I'm going to do I'm going to go after this for him you know he didn't get a chance to live on Miraloma live for the both of us but you know fortunately his his death sent me even harder down that downward spiral of alcohol and depression and three years later I just had a realization one day as if he was still alive the f*** out of me for wasting my life I've been wasting my life for 21 years because of afraid you know I'm afraid and Emma I'm too afraid to fail to afraid of all these stupid reasons that that all of us give ourselves in order to make ourselves feel better about not going after things but really they're just that I just said they're just excuses they're just things that make you feel better and the b******* they're all b******* almost every excuse we have is total b******* cuz there's people with those excuses and with all those reasons and more and they're able than they do it like what is your excuse and it just it just smack me in the face one day and night I was at that point when I could not ignore it any longer and this was going into 2003 so I O psych made it my New Year's resolution to do this and you know play I was sitting down with my father and we have these to get into these long talks with me cuz I was always very quiet and you'd like to take me off to the side and his way to kind of talk to me and get to know me better and he's like so won't you tell me something you've never told anybody you know I'm like what do you mean like fight and very like while he's like I want to fight one day and decide what I want to fight and what do you mean you want to fight and you know I told him and he's like well why don't you and I told him all these reasons he's like well I cannot help you with all of your fears and doubts in this but look I'll make a deal with you if you quit drinking and dedicate yourself to this I'll take care of every Paula Financial things in order to let you do this all right yeah and well I was going to start tomorrow so you know I like two days later I got into the gym and alcohol though if you were physically dependent on it it was it was both extremely difficult yet I was so focused on this goal that none of those I had to overcome so much not just the physical dependence of the on alcohol but but my lifestyle and nothing's changed so many things but I've been putting this off for so long that I knew there was is no time for me to go to waste you know I was so focused on this to like once I made that switch in my mind like I'm going to go after this and there's nothing that's going to stop me in I've wasted so many years already that everything I'm doing is is going to be playing catch-up you know what that is there is no way for me to get to like I'd look at you know that like sanchayan guys like that and feel like I'm never going to get there so everything that I do has to be to get me closer to this goal and I can't allow you know my physical dependency or my doubts or any of these things slow me down because everything I'm doing enough to play catch-up you know and having that that Focus allowed me to overcome all of those those physical and emotional and mental challenges and of course that's not to say it was easier extremely difficult is extremely difficult but it was you got two choices you know you can you can allow these things to slow you down and hinder you and we can you or you can say I'ma go forward anyway doesn't matter how afraid I am it doesn't matter how hurt I am doesn't matter how tired I am this is what I want and I'm going to put everything that I have into this so that way when I'm done when my own my life is over when I can't do or I can look back and have no regrets that I didn't allow these things to slow me down I didn't allow the excuses that we all have hinder mean keep me from doing this you know because one day we're going to wake up and realize we could have gone after these things and we didn't because of X Y and Z but really those things aren't aren't anyting you know you stop and think about those MoMA when you first started this cuz that's a profound life shift and I to go from being a guy's kind of aimless and partying a lot but knowing that you should do something with your life to finally doing something like what was it like when you finally started training what would it feel like when you actually because you hadn't had you done anything athletic before that you know I was always act like my whole life is always really good at sports I hated I hated aspect of things I despise being on a team of any kind of I love playing sports for the for the love of it you know but anytime I was on like a team I would just hate it I despise didn't you know by the time I was like I think 12 I completely turn my back on anything team-related because I felt to me it felt like it just ruined all the beautiful things about the physicality of ovathletics you know it put this this this Marmot hindered me in a lot of ways you know and having to rely on other people you know it's always a big do you know it's like it doesn't matter how hard I work because this person might not have worked at all and you know that's why I'm so drawn to fighting because it's it's even though you do have a team of course it really is everything is on you the good in the bad there's nothing you can put you can point to all these other things but it's really just you so yeah I think back and I look back to what time and what was the first day like it was remember yeah yeah I do it was so I started out just doing private lessons I didn't even start doing classes until maybe six months to a year so I was I was doing private lessons on daily basis my trainer master channels one of toddies original instructors he had me in the gym at like 6 a.m. January in Vegas call Janine a lot of people realizing their Jim had no heat all the windows were like broken so there's no insulation or anything and I was I was just I was I was so excited you so nervous and you know obviously I want to do do really well and then perform and everything was just everything was so new that I didn't really I don't really have a lot I couldn't even really process it so there wasn't a lot of a lot of thought that was going to I was just I was just excited I was just 6 constantly excited and motivated and wanted to my whole goal was to fight and I was like I want to fight even if it's only one time so everything I did was with that mentality and I was like I want to get better I want to get better I want to do everything that I can and every moment and I put every ounce of myself into every second of the day was geared towards this you know was singularly focused on this goal the first day yeah I member the first day of footwork and yeah I'll man the first day the first day he has me up in the ring I must have been maybe the second or third day because there was another was other people there and that maybe they were just hitting the bag and stuff so they're there was a couple of the other Pro Fighters there are other they are pro Fighters I was nobody and I'm up in the ring and this is day one he's like shadow box I've never done anything fighting related like what do you mean like I don't even know what that is you know what I'm saying like a shadow box so like so much of my everything in my career has been like thrown into the deep end can you swim kind of thing and like this forced learning curve and I didn't get baby tuned anyting you know it's like all right shadow box go ahead and everyone always Fighters are like staring at watching me and like I don't know what I'm doing but whatever it was traumatic in a lot of ways but having to confront that in face that particularly me so naturally very shy person the person that doesn't speak ever to anybody I mean even now you know I'm still very quiet but if you knew me back then I was basically a mute you know and I had no interaction with especially strangers and people I didn't know any barely even communicate with so all of this was so foreign to me this is like an alternate universe that I was in and yeah it was it was it was so scary but it was like you don't have a choice but I get up there and do it or get the f*** out of here you know what I mean so there wasn't there wasn't time for me to really think about it or or like even be really nervous about it like do it shadow box like and in this instructor he barely spoke English is not like I can like sit cable I I don't really know what I'm doing and then maybe you can say like something's just let go and got to worry about your approach is like just do it I'm not going to tell you how I'm not going to explain the steps just go pick the bag or or hit it just do it and yeah it was it was scary but then once you got some momentum once you had a couple of weeks under your belt and the starter become real normal part of your life what was that feeling like we realized like hey I'm f****** actually doing this like this is actually happening everyday everyday I was taken significant Jones I mean as I said I've always been naturally athletic so I was picking this up like quick really quick I mean even within a few weeks people thought I'd been doing it for years you know what a lot of that you know does come from my fiscality but but my drive do it and intended to to have my sights set so high that you know it was taking these Quantum leaps every single day so over over the weeks and over the months you know it just it really felt like I was like oh I'm on I'm on track you know I'm I'm on the path I should be on I'm going to I'm going to be amazing at this you know this is great I am natural at this so you know I'm going to be one day I'm just be crushing people and you know everything everything was pointing in that direction you know with my my development and you know started eventually going into the classes in sparring and all those kinds of things and you know it's always like when do I get to fight when do I get to fight when do I get to fight and I think it was 9 months and I finally got I got to fight this is it this is this is my moment you know I'm going to go out there I'm across this dude and then I'm going to be you know on my way to take it to the big time not that they're even email back then that there's no big time there was no this wasn't this is before YouTube this is before anyone even knew what Muay Thai was you know you had to tell everybody you did kickboxing basically what does crushed my soul every time every time you say well it's like kickboxing or Muay Thai people to have to say that is stating it's like someone say was it's like karate no disrespect to any of these other Arts but but to say that it's that in order to help people you most the time I would just say yeah yeah yeah it's like you're posing instead of having to explain to them what it is and then I got the there was going to be a fight in Salt Lake City Utah and a bunch of the other people at the gym or fighting as well and we're all going to go up there Pete yeah yeah yes headgear but we didn't have shin guards we had 8oz gloves and we had needs to the head which was the trip so anyway so we drove up there you know like I said I really felt like I was on my way but when we got there the guy that I was originally supposed to fight with you backed out or it was just that he was closer and wait till somebody else you know when I was kind of thing back then we would just show up at places and be like yeah fight for me or don't you and they didn't and I was devastated now I don't have a fight and you know my trainers likewise is there somebody else yet until that that that that promote Arena was calling around come around and finally like what there's one guy that's going to take it but he always You by 20 lb and he's had about thirty fights already let's do it I don't give a f****** and all this for nothing that we came up under was you fight anytime anywhere anyone any style any weight it doesn't matter and so yeah I didn't even I didn't even really think about it as far as like that goes you know so I could fight that's an awesome man and I felt I felt confident in a way but it's also that you have no idea what you really doing in your whole life but if you've never fought you don't know anything anything you have no car what it's like to be in there you got the hardest flooring in the world with a complete stranger and it's night and day between a real fight and sparring and so it's like yeah you you you want to feel confident going in there but you have no concept of what it is so it's really just fake it's fake confidence and I got a f****** crashman so I got there and you know I've no concept myself or anything so I'll just like I'm like sprinting at this guy and in like 30 seconds I was done I couldn't breathe I couldn't think I could I could barely even see feel like felt like I was under water and it was it was the worst thing in the world cuz nothing this guy was doing with hurting me and every time you hit me up and all I wanted to do I can't breathe like all I'm really trying to do is not pass out right now and and I mean like physically I have been doing nothing but but I was able to last for a while and do a couple decent things in there but by the third round he was his battery may need me in the face and you know you did he just kept clenching me up and was just needing the piss out of me and there was nothing I could do and they finally stopped it in the third round I remember walking like I was I was walking back to the locker room everyone in the crowd was like cheering for me like Ah that's awesome man like a job good job Mike what is wrong with these people like I wasn't good that was so terrible this terrible and I was like laying in the back and Polly nor the place and my opponent comes in music do that was your first fight so yeah man I hate to see you in like a year or two so just the the impact I saw that you could have on people that that it's not necessarily about whether you win or lose that it's what you're showing their it's the hard that you show it's the the spirit that you show and you know I had like a day or two and I was like maybe this just isn't for me know I thought I thought that this was going to be so good at this I thought there was just going to like Skyrocket to the top and I got crash man I didn't even make it out of the fight maybe this isn't for me but I was forced to face that day 1 like do you want to do this regardless of how good you are regardless of you win if you if you can't win and maybe you can't be the best in the world do you still want to do this yeah fukin do I love this so much and me having to face that so early on was was was extremely significant I slept so many of the people I train with would go on these undefeated expect 1015-25 but inevitably you will lose and if you haven't had to confront that early on eventually you do most of those people never fought again or you're just like fosta mentally where they weren't able to overcome it but I had to do with it the first day and overcoming be like you know what that doesn't matter I'm going to wash my ass in gym. Make sure that never happens again and I went on to win like 1920 fights in a row from there yeah that was really a significant moment in my career where I had to confront the reality of this and you know that so much of a fighting is is as a perfect metaphor for a first for things in life like if you really want something you can't always focus on what the results are ordering the immediate results like winning and losing and all of these things hurt so much of that is just on surface Eagle level of things and when you break it all down like what is your why are you doing I'm doing this cuz I love it I'm doing this to improve myself I'm doing this because it's what keeps me healthy mentally physically spiritually and all these things and that's the most important thing and yes it was an extreme motivator to be better and you know not to let that happen happen to me again but you know really really made things that's the most important thing and yes it was an extreme motivator to be better and you know not to let that happen happen to me again but you know really really made things clear to me early on Mike what's important here

you're very welcome it's really cool people let you know I haven't brought a giant heavy bag filled with sand that has the way north of 200 pounds for sure you know the the thing with Shin conditioning a lot of people do know they smack themselves in the shin with bottles and kind of stupid things like that really creating what you need to which is overall conditioning overall strengthening of the the bone all your Greeley doing is dead in little spots in your nerves but that's the worst thing you do without strengthening your bones or deadening the nerves but not strengthening the bone overall and if you're not doing that you're going to think your bones a lot stronger than it is but it can't handle the impact so with with a sandbag your your your cover and much more surface area and you know applying it in a realistic situation where you're able to throw kicks repeatedly at this thing and what you would you really want to do is do what you'd agree that it's causing a certain amount of pain but you're able to do this daily with with repetition because that's how you continue to develop just like getting stronger at anything you know it doesn't happen overnight you got to just do this every day just at the end of your session knock out a few kicks and then again tomorrow FAMU slowly and steadily are they able to go harder and harder and then and then develop the strength and conditioning in your shins so the ideas that you're making like a little tiny micro fractures right and surface area so you're hitting it all what kind of at once as opposed to like little spots which is what happens after something like that you looked Human Condition my shins and then they just what the f*** am I doing this stop doing it well the Thing 2 with with when you're able to kick like that as you can kind of slowly build up you know you start a little bit lightly and develop a little bit stronger than kind of create a little little bit of a crease and you know as you get going you your brain can kind of wrap itself around a little bit better and then you stuck on harder and harder and by the end of you know you're 5 10 minute session you're putting some serious weight then you're not you're not noticing it as much yeah we were talking about you or your knee that you had a fracture in any that you didn't realize you had yeah that's what this was really the thing that disturbs Me Maybe the most and kickboxing and so I've only seen it a few times is when someone checks to kick in the leg snaps in half and like Tyrone Spong when he fought go con sake or Anderson Silva when he fought Chris Weidman same thing that snap of when the the shin gives out like that it can event that from doing this obviously it's one of those just freak things that happens you know clearly with those guys you can have the most conditions in the world but you catch him the wrong way wrong time they can happen and it's rare but it does happen and it doesn't really matter how long you've been doing this how strong your shins are sometimes things just break I was wonder how many guys have little brakes and they don't know about it to buy a lot that's what happened with Anderson Anderson through a Kik and he broke it before that like you felt something was wrong and then we threw that second Kickin it snapped in half. That's why it did that make sense that perfect was checking it right at the top of his knee and you know that's a big thing with a lot of people tend to just blindly just pick their Shin up you know as opposed to paying attention to where understand that it's hitting just just like when you're kicking you need to pay attention to what piece of your leg you're hitting with which piece of your shin your checking with and the higher up on your shin it is. The harder it's going to be in when your Southpaw vs Orthodox and throwing that inside leg kick you or hear you're coming up with an angle which is tends to be like low on your foot or your your your ankle in your checking with high up by your knee so you have the smallest part of your shin connecting with the the hardest part of somebody else's and with that it's just that the one that tends to do that yeah it's a sin on skin contact is such a brutal thing like I think everybody should experience it once around pretty good in our brains that eventually you're going to get to a point when you just don't feel pain and it doesn't bother you but eventually realize that never happens you know it is better to get that out of your head now you know Muay Thai and kickboxing and anything that's bone on bone is it's going to be painful and that's part of the art of it you learn how to place your kicks better and pay attention to what you're doing and yeah of course you you develop your shin conditioning and in that kind of thing but it always hurts it's always going to hurt boxing in anything that's bone on bone is it's going to be painful and that's part of the art of it you learn how to place your kicks better and pay attention to what you're doing and you of course you you develop your shin conditioning and in that kind of thing but it always hurts it's always going to hurt

I had to I don't hate you because I want to do this I'm going to toss a little hand grenade at you not see what you want to do with this year but I've been thinking about this a lot lately and then you know wanting to communicate my store in these things that have happened to me and then this opportunity came up in December to do it to reach a lot of people into there's that quote that says be the person that you needed when you were younger that honor walnuts stairs me in the face every day and I realized that I now and the person that I needed when I was younger in if somebody would have opened up their mouth and let me know that I wasn't alone in that that I wasn't so isolated and so many so many horrible things that we all deal with is because we feel isolation we don't think anyone could understand and we don't think that anyone else is going through these things in and if we did just that knowledge of not being alone would be so significant but when I was 14 years old I was molested by my stepmother and this one on for well over a year closer to years and it was obviously detrimental to me and these are these are things that I'm just now finally starting to be able to understand and didn't realize it like what happened to me and how young I was at the time you know when I meet of a fourteen-year-old kid you're bucking baby your baby you know it's like when we think about ourselves when we were younger like at least myself and like I still feel the same I did when I was younger I was just a little you know what I mean but you don't really understand how little you were until you have like a little 12 14 year old kids sitting next to you like you like how did how did that happen in like thinking about how so I stay with said one and six males are abused by the time they're 18 which means every one of us probably know somebody that this is happened to you know when to think how devastating it is to women but but it's it's it's such a different thing cuz you're almost as viewed from a woman being viewed as like yeah like it's a positive thing I couch that wish that happened to me when I was a kid like I want to be I want to be molested and you know we're not able to really understand it and understand that the damage that it that it does and and you know I die if I wouldn't have felt so alone and then so isolated at the time I you know I don't necessarily know if things would have changed but I definitely would have would have felt so alone you know when was felt like there's nobody in the world that could possibly understand that there's nobody that and who can I talk to about this you know it's like I can't talk to my friends a couple my friends thought it was cool s*** ever liked I want that I want that bad you know is how is ice very conflicted by it you know like I couldn't understand it at all and then to have this person like mentally manipulating me and making like it's not a big deal it's almost like it's a good thing you know like it's like there's nothing wrong but this really just derailed me so much and made me internalize and put up these barriers and walls around me in and things that I like I said I'm only leaving just at this age starting to understand like the negative habits that this created in me of distrust and both of you having to be having to be alone and not trust people and you know anyone in so many things like that that doesn't know what Gene is probably the only person that I've ever talked to in-depth about this I mean my couple people in my family know and almost none of my friends not never spoken to this to anybody try to go to a therapist once and talk about this but our interaction the night then I am like he's you know like a overweight person that needs how much self-confidence helping like allergies and like like who can I talk to about this and you know maybe maybe I can't talk to anybody but I am in a position to where I can reach out and let other people let me know that they're not the only ones going through this and then that has been weighing on me so much lately especially over the last few years none like you are in a position to be able to even if you could only helps one person that you can you just don't know how to make well I could write about it or I could do like a video blog or something and then I've been thinking about this a lot lately going to how do I how can I do this and like should I do this like I don't know if that's like a good thing felt like I need to express this and and and and communicate this in and maybe I can do some good for even one person and then if I didn't at that would haunt me forever I had an experience when I was 13 with a girl who lived up the street who's 21 a couple times but is very different than your experience it was a mean thing to say it was kind of fun you know it's it was different it was I couldn't believe it is very weird yeah but it definitely like kind of screwed up my idea of what boy-girl interaction was I didn't go from like thirteen-year-olds most the time they like you want to kiss or hold you poner tits out to the woman in around twenty one and it didn't it didn't hurt me like you our story like your story hurts like it sounds like you were betrayed and you were you were and also that the fact that was your stepmom and mean with me it was like what the f*** was that all about and I don't I didn't tell anybody I didn't tell anybody girlfriend when I was in my 20s yeah she was like when was the first time you were fooled around like wow because that was really the first time I had ever fooled around with anyone with his twenty-one-year-old woman I went up to it was the same thing for me and I didn't even kiss a girl until is I don't know 1213 like late late cuz I was such a shy person so I went from just kissing to that there was no in between I think I kissed her yeah I think she was the first person I kissed yeah yeah just have your innocence ripped away like that and to be thrust into this adult thing you know obviously you with the situation was that much worse if you know my stepmom and it being molested and it's such a different thing then a woman are being raped forcefully raped a different now but psychologically and emotionally you know it's it's it's it's devastating it is it is obviously and you were laying with her as well yeah the whole thing's terrible and you said it went on for a year longer than 2 years this was something you know I never I never felt right about this I was very conflicted by it you know nose like this definitely isn't a good thing I don't know why I didn't understand how bad of a thing it was very manipulative and then you know anytime I would kind of bring that subject of Academy think this is okay you know this is just feels wrong you know rationalize it or make it okay and you do FaceTime went on like I just like this is bad how old was she she was probably 30 young 30s you know now that was another thing I once I got to that age and then I saw a fourteen-year-old on my block like I didn't even conceptualize how twisted this person was until I got that age how could you how could you look at it baby a child and and do that how could you do that you know that expression hurt people hurt people and you know it and unfortunately a lot of that for me is helps you like rationalize it and make it to that go well with you know she's f***** up and you don't even even my father you do after you found out like he kept this lady around for a while yeah yeah divorce but but they taste kind of work together still in and he kept her around for for quite some time and you know that alone was extremely damaging to me and then throw such a betrayal in such a such a traumatic thing that I didn't even really understand how damaging that was after the fact until really till recently you know because I myself would rationalize it well you know he didn't want Nike be an a****** in like Center on like she was an alcoholic too and you know you know he was like all you know just trying to make this horrible situation like okay for all of us and you know I didn't really think about like a f*****-up he was in the whole situation in like how how much more damaging it was in the long run to me by not having my father protect me like if Mike this happened to my child out Trucking murder a woman did this you know I certainly wouldn't keep her around you know and I certainly wouldn't like just handle it handle it the way that he did you know when that was that was almost a magnified the damage that much more so because of the way that it was handled you know in to not have that cannot be taken care of by adults by Navia taken care of by my father by the people around me that horse posted love me and take care of me and in the end they did the exact opposite like the fuk fuk to my world up you know and I I put Band-Aids of alcohol on it my whole life you know in a minute and I understand like why I why I did that and then why it was I mean I really was trying to kill myself really I mean when you look at it that's what I was doing I was just doing process of it you know what that's that's that's what we do it's like we don't want to take the gun and kill ourselves but I'm going to I don't want to really live and I want to win like I want to check out of this place sooner the better so I'm going to do everything in my power to make it happen and that way I can't say I killed myself but I was killing myself everyday and putting myself some situations over extremely dangerous and detrimental and damaging and that's what I was doing and didn't half of my life wasn't so I was just destroyed and you know I'm trying to use this second part of my life to make up for that make up for the damage that was done in to try to turn a horrible situation in a negative situation is something that I could easily point to In-N-Out allow destroy my life which is what I was doing and trying to do the opposite you know what that again with it that the fight approaches like you have a loss you have a horrible thing happened you have an injury what are you going to do with it are you going to let it destroy you and break you never do this again and then be depressing bitching complain and whine about it going to say yes shity things happen to all of us f*****-up things happened and we all have the excuse to let it destroy our lives than to use it to make ourselves feel better about drinking and drugs and just being an a****** than me no like we all have reasons to be dicks and we all have reasons to you know take it out on other people but that doesn't mean that you should and that doesn't mean that you don't still have a choice it's that victim mentality in that this was something that I I just just started understand because you know that that term victim mentality of a f****** victim but would victim mentality really is his feeling like you have a role to play from that point yeah you might not have been able to control these terrible things that have happened to you but you do have control over what you do from there you have control over whether you use that to go into a more positive later use that to to drastically damage you in and you know be this burden that you carry sometimes I think when someone like you go through something like this and comes out on the other end what you can do by talking about this can set a path for so many people to understand that you know it was someone looks at you and I see you fighting on television and they they think they see you on the internet and you know successful Muay Thai Fighter and you know you look cool you have this beautiful girlfriend everything seemed so positive you know when you're young your life is s*** like mine was a clearly like yours was you you look at these people like they're nothing like you there aliens there there's some different thing they there their they're it's the world's opened up to them so easily can and they're better than you when someone hears you talk about your experience the alcoholism the abused the isolation the feeling like a loser and all the things that are so relatable so many when you can talk about this you can you you're you're setting a map that other people can follow and this is something that's so important in culture and in human beings were all part of some strange evolution of the human race and the things that our grandparents went through would likely I'm f****** believably horrific the things their grandparents War went through or probably magnitudes and this is just how human beings have gone from being monkeys to being what we are now and it's happening very rapidly and one of the things that accelerates this understanding of consequences and of the ability to rise to the occasion and overcome obstacles and to be able to use adversity as a tool to better yourself and someone like you what you're doing right now is very very beneficial to so many people millions of people listening to this right now and so many of them this is going to resonate with them they're going to say all this guy who is this f****** badass kickboxer Moishe's me my type by badass dude who's this like you know like people admire you and to hear this is it's so it's so powerful I mean it I'm so glad you said it I'm so glad you talked all of it from the beginning you know your your earlier struggles to this because this is medicine for people Mandarin it's so it's so powerful I mean it I'm so glad you said it I'm so glad you talked all of it from the beginning you know your your earlier struggles to this because this is medicine for people man there's a lot of people are here in this right now and they going I can do it too

hard because you don't get that many conversations with people where you disagree with them and it's not confrontational usually they're confrontational or you're confrontational so it always starts off in the bad foot I've learned how to do it from doing this podcast one of the most surprising things about doing this podcast is I learn how to talk to people better yeah I didn't think that was a thing I thought I'd just just was talking to people and then I realized somewhere along the way not only people list but sometimes I'm annoying how do I how do I do this where I'm less annoying and in learning how to do things are less annoying I've become a more compassionate conversationalist I got to understand how to talk to people better and I've gotten I apply it to my whole life now I've gotten better at it and I see people who are bad at it it's so frustrating like I have some really smart friends and you know I talked to them and they just f****** interrupt each other and they interrupt you and they don't let anybody talk you're not listening to this further time to talk and you know it's it's so strange they're not able to ever consider other people's opinions they think that everyone but them is wrong and it's you know it's basically like you know how it is when you see a YouTube video where people have no idea how to fight you see him fight you know that thing myself if I was in a street fight with this guy like this is I would be like why you doing this man this is so crazy you don't know what you doing hey are you crazy you're going to get killed you're lucky I'm nice but that's the same conversation there's a lot of people out there having conversations have no idea how to talk they don't they're not even really listening to you arguing to have one is using someone like a like a wall you throwing a f****** tennis ball off of bizarre statement on this room it's the more confident one that they listen to say more words communication and conversation that rental like socially dominate you and this for sure I mean I think it's a learned thing you know he's people do it to you and you go man I got f****** kick my ass. Conversation I might get better at kicking people's ass and then you get better at start a bulldog and people are talking over there were talking loud or having these days like these sentences that maybe could pull out of your ass every now and then to shut people down it sounds good and it becomes a sport really should be this is sharing ideas and communicating with people I mean if you really into the sport of just debating people and shutting people down and salty people okay that good for you but you don't like listening to that that much yeah what people like listening to fruit what I want for my experience is someone actually talking to someone someone actually expressing their thoughts and then the other person considering their thoughts and neither agree nor disagree but people are so happy when you could do that without real conflict some people on that I just five years ago I would have I would just said you f****** moron I would have screamed at them what are you talkin about you're an idiot you can go f*** yourself jump off a brick but instead of doing that I be like okay why do you think that and tell me tell me what about this here's what I think let me tell you what I think and tell me what you think oh yeah you think that tell me more but but yeah like I feel like I get the best out of people though that's how you understand who they really are but just for me is a human for my own education everything yeah you know I've learned a lot from talking to morons just just the awkwardness in the way they process thoughts and the way they view the world and the way they've chosen to communicate that you learn from that just like you're saying like it was sparring with someone is like doing has terrible habits you know people like that and that kind of thing but your ability to communicate in to bring out conversation regardless of what the subject matter is makes it very intriguing and you can learn a lot regardless of who the guest is like you learned so much from these people because of the way you are able to communicate with them the way you're able to bring out conversation and and get in-depth with all of these subjects most things and I'm genuinely curious about the way I think my why do I think that way so someone thinks different than me I'm genuinely curious like why do you think there's an instinct to go now you're f****** wrong I'm right but I do I just go I know what that is that's trick don't do that that's dumb don't think that way just try to find out this is not a game so I contest find out why this person thinks this way and it's better for everybody and I didn't even know it was the thing don't start doing podcast it just took me awhile podcast like anything else for me at least as I'm doing it I'm trying to get better at it and I realized I used to not be as good like I can't I never listen to my podcast but if I did listen to like the old ones from the beginning I probably these conversations for me or like it's like going school it's like everyday I'm going to school about humans we are going to school about whatever the subject there talking to me about but also going to school about how you know the more people you talk to especially like this no cell phones we're wearing headphones and is one reason I like headphones those cuz your voice is in my ear you're not over there you're right here man locked in and this is exactly the same way that other people can hear it which is a very unusual way to hear it yeah you don't think about it that way but most the time of your conversation your voice is louder cuz it's closer and they're over there and you're talking to each other and you know maybe check your phone or maybe you're distracted by other noises when you were in headphones you don't hear anything else when you and I were friends I've known you for years when will we have a sit-down with this they keep you from talking over each other too much to conversations are improvisational right you know you have a dance partner you don't step on each others toes you do occasionally just so you get better at it and it's more than two people it's mandatory like when you have three or four people in a podcast cannot do it without headphones or it's just talking over each other like I learned that doing those fight companion at least some headphone tours just talking over each other like I learned that doing those fight companion is everyone's drunk and they have the headphones on it's sort of at least comes some of the overtalk

that always trips me out as I think about like people review is lunatics I'm like what if they are seeing reality and we have blinders on you know because when you take into account what a finite percentage of what's really out there that were able to see without perception and you know it book compared to like X-rays and gamma-rays and all of these things like we have such a tiny filter on everything that's really going on out there s*** compared to what's really there in like maybe these whacked-out people are just seeing more of what's happening and that's what makes them nuts because that's the only demons flying around all these colors and we just have we have a filter on that so we can like process information and it keeps us sane but that's what's really going on out there I think about how small amount of acid you need to take to completely the way you view the world and I think McKenna describe this Terence McKenna described acid that the potency of acid is like it's literally like four in in terms of like the amount that you need in order to have an effect he made an analogy like an ant deconstruct in the entire Empire State Building in a matter of seconds like that's how potent it is in terms of volume human body and you're tripping balls for 7 hours you know that's a chemical disruption of this very delicate ecosystem so if your neurochemistry is off in any way up or down sideways screw we got too much of this or too much of that which we know is the case with everything right like some people born with bad eyesight some people are born deaf some people are born and they have problems processing pain they don't feel pain correct some people are born they must have an imbalance of the chemicals that are floating around inside you had yeah and their view of the world is radically different than ours yeah can ship depending on for your personal experience like a life abuse children that are abused their chemicals in their head as they're developing are off their different their brains are different a process life different because of abuse people have experienced extreme trauma violence when they're young PTSD they're processing things differently the people that have not yeah what's even crazier about that is I read a book called it didn't start with you and it talks about how these things are passed on generationally from like trauma your grandparents had is passed on to you through your DNA and it and it and it changes us like how much is passed on to us that we have no control over then Alters are the way we feel things we we see things all these experiences that people have that that that that that just get past passed down like that without any outside influence just just through that process of being year old is obsessive stop go to bed like you got to go to bed but that's me and I always thought it was f***** up I was like I thought I was doing this and I probably was my whole life to try to show that I had value because I felt like I was ignored and I didn't know my dad and I was felt like an outsider and a loser and I was felt like I would become about throw myself into things to show that I had value and I would get really good at things to show that I had value and that would be this absurd was like me trying trying to escape the existential angst of my existence and just as the constant anxiety in this just feeling of inadequacy trying to escape it by being obsessed with things but also trying to prove through getting good at things that I have value in the first time I ever felt like I was worth anything was when I started getting good at martial arts like then then people serve respect to mail so I can have the thing that people think I'm good at and now that I'm good at this thing that became my identity and if I just threw myself into that but my daughter's growing up with none of that she's all loved and she's all smiling and happy and she's not depressed she has lot of hugs and she has friends but she's a f****** psycho and I'm like oh you got that from me like you got my crazy Gene but you got it without all the f*****-up parts right or you're not sad you got it without the sad thing you just want to get good at stuff without like a happiness and also a feminine happiness to it for instead of a masculine like a grudge want to smash all I want to do I just want to smash things because she's not angry weird to see this obsessive like completely obsessive behavior in terms of like trying to get better at things and she accelerated she excels at so many different things that she gets good at she gets good at things and they become her whole life like all day long obsessive looks really weird but in a happy way and so it's it's strange genetically my dog Marshall nicest dog in the world right he's so nice that's a genetic thing that dog is a Golden Retriever and when he like when you come over to him and he starts whining so happy you want to get Pat and he runs and grab the toy always the only want to bring you something never had a rough day in his life every day has been fun but he's learned through his DNA that he's supposed to retrieve things and bring them over and that you are happier when he brings things over because that's the DNA that's in his system is literally inside of him from the box like right out of the box look at the ingredients oh he likes to bring you things they were awarded for it and said all they give me treats and they like me more when I bring things so I'm going to just keep when you know what you shoot a duck out of the sky and they get that duck and bring it over and everybody gets happy so this in him yeah it's understand what would DNA actually is or whatever form that are passed when two life-forms breed and then make another one I don't think we really understand it a rudimentary understanding of the chemistry involved but in terms of like personality terms of like or the thoughts that are in our heads like I was reading something by Rupert sheldrake and he's talking about why children are afraid of monsters he's like children that grew up in the city or afraid of monsters and not afraid of like gunshots in car accidents things are really scary monsters they were eaten by wolves and those cabinets were afraid of fangs and things in the dark when you can't see them, you can't protect yourself crazy crazy snakes or spiders where did that come from the stand name out of guarantee I've have seen out Fear Factor we had a few people that had a legit fear of snakes and spiders in Arkansas or something call my whole body was shaking and they were trying to f****** poisonous but there's something about snakes like someone they love or there is someone in their ancestry or something someone survive the snake attack something

free things in life we will figure out so late if ever you know when we were kids we look at the adults are parents some those in Authority that called they got it figured out yet you had a really good joke about this about thinking the older you get the more you you understand life and how things are going on but that the older you get really nobody knows what the f*** is going on and everyone is out here just winging it like I don't know what the f*** I'm doing I'm just kind of trying my best to my parents adult kids that don't the f*** they're talking about yeah the bit was remember when you thought that grown-ups were real they don't exist like I used to think that one day I'm going to be growing I was crying I was young I was so upset one day I would be grown up and everything's going to make sense and then one day you're at the supermarket and the guy goes paper plastic Sur North sir I'm a star a my grown-up and then you realize no one knows any more than you about what this is all about data on your head you might have more experience might be a brain surgeon you might know how to build Rockets you might be smarter than me but you don't have any f****** idea what this is no one does you cannot know you can because we could all be asleep in a dream right now or hooked up to a machine like nobody knows that for sure so how can you possibly say anything is factual you can say things are facts with the information that's in front of you but that information might be bulshit in 10 years from now how much they might have a completely different perspective on things that we're doing now that we think are right and like this the way life is that why the world is I would like 10 years ago people are very different approach to things you know and this is what we do pretty sure maybe not we might be in a dream like we could all be wrong and that's why I think it's so stupid to judge other people's beliefs be like oh your way is the right way you got it figured out and the everybody else is crazy but she's thinking to make don't you think that they think the exact same thing you do well there's a problem today and there's a lot of people out there giving advice and sometimes advice and then you get older and wiser and you realize that advice is really f****** stupid because you had its there's people that are giving advice and there was a war there there's like a lot of value in motivating people write when someone so like legitimately motivational person whether it's like Wim Hof the Iceman or someone is like really done some things just something about them that their inspiration is fuel its does something to you but then there's a lot of people out there that are just saying s*** cuz they think it's going to be motivating to other people and it sounds like horseshit that stuff is painfully prevalent there's so much of it there's so many people out there that are trying to offer advice and they're trying to motivate people but then you go Haven what have you experienced I said doll life filled with non accomplishment accomplishment is tricking people into thinking they're good motivational speaker get rich quick this is why this Pursuit is odd it's a f****** odd thing is the pursuit of tricking people into thinking that you're more knowledgeable than you actually are resonates with people is like what you were talking about from the beginning of this podcast will your talk about your life and how you felt and your own real legitimate experiences and the feelings of inadequacy and then defining the light at the end of the tunnel and all these different things that are just relaying your your life's lessons and experiences those are extremely valuable for people those are extremely valuable but because people know they're extremely valuable there's a lot of bullshitters out there they're trying to concoct these things and in trick you and like this how I got Smash Hit I guess the f****** Instagram messages like I see him like a want to come on the show motivate people I'm on my really about motivating people R22 the f*** are you motivated you ain't shitt communicating the full spectrum of the things that I'm dealing with and going through in my come only going to focus on these positive things like I'll just do this this than this and you know you're going to go the right way and often times cuz they don't have someone in their life like the way you were describing Gina Keebler Giant near life yeah they have people that check you have to know you to have to know you can't hide anything from them we have we have a lot of a lot of us tend to have these with the word b I don't know these people in our lives that didn't like they're only there because you're doing something for them mother that son of a relationship you're going to grow through that there that the relationships going to make you feel good yes and in a lot of ways and it's fun and comfortable it's like but if you if that person can't get to the core of you and really like when you tell me something I know it's truth because you have no other reason to to say bulshit right you don't know me you don't need anything from you celebrities when they go off the rails and they don't they don't hang out with other people like them so they don't have real friends they have these employees and people were in the kids real sketchy and everyone that they talked to and interact with need something from them and they assume this position of authority where no one can question them like no one can call bulshit no one like you got to appears very important the respect in the Friendship of your peers like man you're adrift you're not tethered you're out there in orbit just f****** floating around choked Donuts he'll tell you the truth and important than anything physical yeah yeah is extremely vital for everyone I mean particularly kids coming up putting kids into Athletics and martial law lot of s*** is a lot of s*** you can say by moving your body that you know you can't really fake that 90 minute yoga class is 90 f****** minutes it's hot as s*** and you're in there sweating your balls off and if you know you got to get to the end to the end up you understand what's necessary to get to the big things do it it's just it's a small thing that's a small thing you know life is a big thing with these small things you can do they all help you understand what's necessary to get to the big things and it's all macro and micro it's all connected in some strange way

how much of that is is realizing how little I control you have over everything like how we raise our children or how we interact with people in like what does and doesn't affect us in like the fact that any of this works in any remote ways is insanity this is nuts walnuts this life is nuts and a year and talk about like like like some of the people you've met through this and be like you like how did I get here and like what is this like yeah I feel that way to the f*** is going on at what did I do to get here like this weird what made me do this that this podcast like almost made me do this and it sounds like so pretentious it's only tricked me you tricked me and it played on my obsessive mind just keep doing it to get better at this Untold millions of people been exposed 3 billion downloads over the course of 10 years so I don't know how many people that is how many individuals but it's a fuckload so all these different people of come on it's all these different ideas and so many different people are hearing them and their earbuds weather in traffic or when they're at the gym and all these ideas percolate inside people's brains and it gives them different perspectives and then it makes him maybe explore things maybe Imma Try Jiu-Jitsu maybe I'll try yoga maybe imma try eating better maybe I'll try doing this and through all that you see a shift in the culture of the human beings there that have been in that have been affected by all these people patience young and if me and feels like I just I'm getting sucked into being here like I'm like okay and then also like me getting better at it is just me it's like it showing me how to extract better information get out of my f****** way don't ruin it and make it better for the people to listening yeah really what it feels like sometimes are attracted to people that doesn't make any fucken sense be like everything you do and say to make me feel it's like everything opposite of what I really want and but but I'm attracted you in like this thing out of me in a certain way where nobody else could do that thank you this person does that for me for some reason or this action this sport this thing like why am I drawn right right right or when I got hurts and my call through all these things that doesn't make any sense at all but nothing makes any sense at all and it doesn't make any sense in like that and that's why it's so vital to follow your heart and follow things you feel because everything else so I can only knows what the f*** is going on like nobody can tell you what you should do shouldn't do to be successful or to be happy or to be all these things like you got to listen to what's inside of you give you wrong you can listen to it inside inside of you and you can be wrong but you have to learn how do I decipher that voice better yeah I've been wrong about things that I thought I wanted and then and then you go okay this is why I was wrong I was delusional delusional or was kidding myself or some sort of Peace going to bring me some sort of some sort of just normal yeah I know and then it doesn't happen so you're all right well guess there is no normal see nothing is normal everything is crazy we're all nuts my favorite drugs marijuana cuz it does the opposite of make me confident it makes me paranoid and makes me laugh makes me compassionate and it makes me also like orange was crazy like that's why I like it I like it because I think the drugs that make you feel lucky that we should all be a little less confident we need each other a lot more than we like to pretend and this life is like this temporary thing that we're going through we have a certain amount of heartbeats and then who knows then the lights go out and flu go to a better place but it does to is it it's strips that Intex Vale away like that veil of feeling like everything's in balance in normal and you know life is like this is life like life is f****** weird man weird super weird super where we distract ourselves with normalcy and habits but text step back and like this is nuts this is all nuts and we pretend like it's normal and it's cool and everyone in agreeance at like we all know what's going on with Fox going on while living in the spaceship flying through the atmosphere yeah we're all tripping balls over here but we can find some moments of comfort and happiness in the chaos and that's what we're all seeking moments of comfort and happiness and camaraderie and and friendship you know where else he can love two we're all seeking love to we're all seeking good feelings but you got to get through the shity ones to even appreciate the good feelings it's a catch-22 in the bad so you don't know what good is unless you have bad it has to be that way

it's like trying to find deer you're calling in your passion in life is like you don't have to necessarily know what that is but what'll it down by what don't you want to do what do you hate what do you hate run don't even look like what you like what do you hate I don't I do not want to go down this path that I see everybody on to go school get a job have kids get married retired die like I don't want I don't want that I don't know what I do want I just know that to me I don't want anything to do with that I'm going to go in the opposite direction whatever that is as long as I'm far away from that that's where I'm going to be one of the benefits of being an outsider the right thing but living a sort of empty meaningless lives with that they don't enjoy I always looked at normal people living normal eyes I could never relate I never understood it you know I also grew up from a broken home and we were also on welfare and you know the whole deal because I think a lot of motivated people come from a place of Despair when they're younger and always had this thought in my head that one day I would make it one day I'm going to make it I'm going to make it and then one day I realized I don't know when I realized it probably went like on paper ready made it such a place like this is not real like that you can't ever you don't make it no no one makes it yeah like it if everyday you have to be trying to do better every day you have to be trying to impress about there's no perfect human list except that you're always going to be flawed you're always going to you're always going to be subject to fits of rage and envy and and all the things that you wish that you would never have in your mind so you're going to come didn't leave you working to make sure that never happens and you constantly be working to make sure that you are always evaluating your perspective on life and always looking things from meditate constantly meditate make sure that you approach life with a learned perspective like you're a better person you were the day before and whatever you're trying to do whatever is fighting or weather at your do you have an art form that you practice whatever it is that you're doing you are trying to do everyday and you never even if you'll be able to accomplish them up like when you know you accomplish some amazing work of art that's just that day the next day you got to go back to work like if you have a world championship fight and you've trained for 8 weeks and you win by knockout the spectacular result and you're very happy with the result you got a day or two to relax you got a day or two and then you like f*** okay now what well you now you got to get back to work and if you if you think that someplace like a movie where you're holding hands with your loved ones in the f****** sunsets going on in the credits roll that's horseshit and we have this idea in our head that there's this place you can get to where you are quotes made it and I'm here to tell you that m*********** doesn't exist I mean obviously I'm not the most successful person in the world but on paper I've accomplished a lot of s*** and it doesn't mean a goddamn thing every f****** day every f****** day I get up and I'm like forgot to do this I got to work on this new bit okay I got it podcast today I got to be on point let me think about this let me read this book let me in on whatever the subject is when we get off and let me get into it have to if you don't you're you're going to feel like s*** yeah it's bad and that destination mentality play from that thing that I thought because as you develop your you the things that you think you want develop to that one day I would be rich but the Richie they did you get the richer you want to become well then you start filling up your life with these meaningless destinations right with your materialogic I want to f****** yacht b**** I want to chat do and it stayed they fill their lives up with meaningless possessions and they still are a p a Band-Aid to cover up the like what is the real thing here people I know that are f****** medicated to s*** all of them a lot of them more more more more more so than the people that aren't in a lot of ways medication for real but hard-working that can up get get done with a day of hard work and have a feeling of accomplishment and then go home to your family and get going again knowing you have to get up in the morning and do it again knowing you don't have enough money to buy a yacht but knowing you have enough money to put food on the table and there's a satisfaction to be able to provide that that's a better medicine well that's the thing that's why it's so important and vital to to travel and you know go to his third world countries that these people literally have nothing and are inviting to prep strangers into their homes and getting them things they said they do not even have themselves like why these people so happy why are they so at peace right because they understand what's important that it's not this materialistic thing in and that's not to say that material are bad but we view them as these these these objects hope of success if you don't have a good grasp of what's really important in this life and and unfortunately lots of everything taken away for us to really understand what those things really are you can appreciate some things you can but if you get really caught up in that you are trying to fill up a bucket with a hole in it and it's never going to fill up your always just going to look for bigger and bigger things try to fill that bucket up in and you're going to feel full of it I lie all the time chasing that there's no real there's no real satisfaction then that's why you know what you look at one of the things that people look at when you look at people that are extremely materialistic that you know where the the most fancy jewelry and drive the most fancy cars in the biggest houses we always think they're shallow Louis I mean isn't that funny like the saying that you would look at in terms of like markers for Success Marcus likes material things are the big ones ready for the big markers for Success the big house that that's the big one right now gas f****** mansion right I mean becoming a great fighter is hard but it's worth doing because once you do do it and you you realize like like there's an expression that I've used before but my Taekwondo instructor said to me when I was a little boy he said martial arts are vehicle for developing your human potential like many times explain it to people the benefit of getting good at the martial art go through this difficult thing and then threw that you reap all these personality rewards as you read these character award you reap his understanding of what you're capable of right if you are capable of making it through a brutal camp and it getting up in the morning when you know you don't want to that alarm clock goes off and I don't want to f****** run but you do it you go out and run and you can you do it everyday and you get through it and then you're successful and you realize that you have this incredible endurance because of the discipline that you put in you realize they have this incredible skill and it's understanding of how speak correctly because of all the time and hours in the focus you're a better person because of that right that's a real goal but that yacht you know like I'm going to work 16 hours a day so I can get a bigger yacht and then you know I need a house with bigger windows I need a nonsense to that like I'm not saying if you can afford a nice house nice houses you are the project your mind is the project how you treat people is the project how you you're the way you are with your family and your friends and your loved ones in the people you communicate with get better at that that's that's that's the goal in this life to go in this life is how we treat each other I know and I wish these were things that we were taught do know it's better explain its people in particular that you can explain it to people having gone through this horrific adversity and come out on the other end with a message and so other people that are going through some tough s*** do you got the Medicine the medicine is your you've actually experienced it and you know it's a map it's a map of the territory it's not it's not a f****** pill that you can take it all said everything's going to be better but what it is is a map of the territory and you have knowledge you can get through these woods and on the other side is a beautiful Green Meadow and there's a lake and its really nice horrible but I got to see first-hand both sides of money you know I went from living in a basement with a five of the people living on welfare to living with my father in a mansion and 200 all this money and all this stuff is just emptiness and and meaningless ending it doesn't necessarily equate to real happiness. Acquire we all chasing the so hard and I got to see that firsthand very very early on I don't want this to trick it's like the same reason why people love to play video games because they're difficult but there's no real reward professional video game player real reward you just get better at it and you get some sort of a sense of satisfaction and mean there's a there's something to be gained from it and fax some video games they've actually shown to increase your odds and if performance and other things similar to the way chest has but the Trap is that they're hard to do so when we see things that are difficult human beings are sort of puzzle and problem-solving oriented we see puzzle we want to solve them we see Mysteries going to find out that's why I was in the like Bigfoot and UFOs and chips. Mystery what is it what do you think it is like we have a natural inclination to try to solve things like that and we think that because in life look if you try to solve where the food is you survive that's what made us alive that's why our DNA has been passed down for all these hundreds of thousands of years our ancestors figure out where the food is you know they figured out how to drill a hole in the ice and fish they figured out how to you know how to survive in this is why the things that are difficult to do or attractive to us but we have to be able to differentiate between things that are difficult and meaningful and things are difficult and b******* yeah and he said so you don't have to worry about what something cost when you go to a restaurant bulshit looks like you're right have enough money to just get a nice meal at a restaurant and not sweat it like everything else is gravy yeah well you know the basic human needs are met you know food shelter doesn't correlate to any kind of happiness and in many ways is the exact opposite like what how much do you really need and if you eat the more you you think you need them the more problems you're creating and then in the more distractions you are from the important things in life and in and developing as a human being you know you're developing all these materialistic things but you're not developing yourself emotionally and mentally and spiritually and it is that I am chasing I think the study was like eight they said $80,000 like everything over $80,000 like you really don't experience any much more you know before that you're going to get until like 40000 30000 well-nigh struggling hard to feed yourself and then I moved to a better apartment and then I was sitting this better Apartments like I'm kind of used to this like I'm used to this like this is just home now is a feeling when you get when you're home I got them home now I'm in this other apartment it just cost more money yeah yeah I mean I guess it's better different I didn't feel different at all you know I might have felt different like when I go out to eat in the check comes I come I can pay for this kind of thing but but emotionally I didn't feel any different whatsoever and I think that's such an important lesson for all of us to learn and if you know what the early at the sooner you figure those things out you know the better I can pay for this kind of thing by but emotionally I didn't feel any different whatsoever and yeah I think that's such an important lesson for all of us to learn and if you know the early the sooner you figure those things out you know that better

motivational thing for me to try to be honest with the the things that I deal with the ups and the Downs in Mendon to to show my losses to show my injuries to show to be vocal about the doubts that I have that that I still have that I had to do was he know what's it is easy to look at these people in the spotlight be like they don't deal with fear they don't deal with pain they don't deal with doubt they don't deal with like they're inadequate I think I tore some of you were talking about that the Imposter syndrome it doesn't matter how amazing you seemingly are on the outside to all these people like we're all just human beings we are all just individuals that have made choices and no steered our lives in certain directions but but it's almost like when you make it to a point psycho they don't deal with this anymore the exact same fears doubts in in all of these things that I dealt with day 1 till this day I'd still deal with him those same questions they've never gone away ever going away you know you learn how to handle them better and you learn you stitch strengthened by them but but they don't necessarily disappear and then in a lot of times of the day they can get worse over the years because now you're now you're in a position where you're expected to be a certain way your people have people have expectations of you you know you you're supposed to be this super human being are we supposed to be extremely confident we supposed to only put on a plus performances and you're not allowed to fail you're not allowed to be human anymore and the when we can humanized these things and then I'm in it it lets people realize that they can do it to you know we're not we're not necessarily made up of anything different than anybody else you know we've just gone through list of learning in developing and Diving off of cliffs that we didn't know where they were going and you know that's that's what we all have to do you know like the people in the spotlights they're they're just human beings on the Maury that you you meet them and read about their stories and you know that's why I love reading autobiographies like cheese like the things these people if I don't work, they were handed anything isn't it more than anything it was more devastating detrimental had overcome more than you could possibly imagine it wasn't just given to them they had to work and strive and struggle and fail fail over and over and over and over and over and over and over again until they got to where they got to instill do they still do they still fail constantly we all feel constantly losses or these things that happen or the struggles has I always viewed them as challenges be like are you going to quit are you going to give up I was you like when I'm tired in the rain or in on a work at me like you want to quit you man you know that that that voice in your head you know that that that that devil that's looming over your shoulders like your failure but I'm like you know what f*** you like waiting I'm never going to quit never going to stop and there's nothing you can do so keep talking but I'm going forward is there a time will you ever get past that and you understand that you're never going to quit and instead just concentrate on the task at hand or do you think that that that voice that you're duking it out with that you take that motherfuker to the Grave you definitely take it to the Grave you I think we feel like we get farther away from it and we get stronger and we get more confident but it never gets farther you never get farther away from it like I I compared to my alcoholism it's like I could go ten years without ever drinking again but all it takes is one bad day we are all one bad day of being in the worst situations ever and that's why it's so important to know you look at people on the street to things like that but you know easy that can happen how many bad days are bad situations would it take to turn a successful person into that not a lot and I were all just bounce very delicate thing that you know it seems like we're all strong and safe and all this bag well when the power goes out and you know that the world's going to go to hell like that we just pretend like it's not your point is I don't think whatever any farther away from those things that held us back before we get stronger we learn how to process them and we we we under stand it more and we understand that the series of things that we need that will take us down that road or get us farther away from it but it but it's just right there you know and no matter how much we learn and develop I think sometimes it makes it even more scarier it's like the higher you get the farther you have to fall hand and it's the more you can be aware of that that that you're never going to get farther away you always need to be diligent that you always need to do things that are going to steer you in a more positive way I think that it that is like the goal to to not falling back on that. I think the worst thing that we can do is have this belief that we're past it ever going to happen again I'm not an alcoholic anymore I'm not a drug addict anymore I'm not depressed anymore that's what that's what's helped me is I I did think one day I would be so far away from it that we would never be a thought anymore but but by knowing that it's always right there that keeps me sharp you know it's like that. That you need that thing to keep you at your best or else we start to get lazy it's that that that same concept of having people that push you in the gym more in Life or or Saturday if you don't have somebody pushing you you can only ever push yourself so hard you might think you're pushing yourself really hard but don't really have a basis for where that is so like for myself I always run my Sprint on a treadmill because a tremolo doesn't lie this is how fast you're going in this is how long you're doing it now you can go out on the street and say I was going as fast as humanly possible you always going to hold yourself back a little bit you know that's just the way we are as human beings you know that that safety-net that we have ingrained in us to not go over that edge but if you're not pushing that edge you're not developing and you're always holding yourself back a little bit a little bit then no matter how hard you think you're going or or how honest do you think you're being unless you have somebody as a side so important to have people in your lives that that that keep you in that sharpen State you know that that that that that question you that. I push you and you know like like for me Gene has always been that way for me that person is like going to look and let me b******* keep me honest you know sometimes return extreme extension like give me a little bit of a break here but you know it's like that person that that pushes you and it's uncomfortable to be pushed in either you don't want to be pushed I want to relax I don't want to like sit on the beach and drink beers and then do all these things but is that going to help me get to a better place in my life a better place in my mind in my heart now that's going to allow me to just fight be a lazy piece of s*** and just and I envy no benefit to to myself or anyone else for that matter so as uncomfortable as it is to be pushed in as I'm comfortable it is to be pressured into 2212 Excel we all need those things you either improving your or your decline yeah it's like the concept of balance you never find because once you find it you lose it you always jumping on both sides of this line too much or too little rather going too fast or too slow and we're trying to find that perfect balance of everything and then you'll never can find it but knowing that you never can find it forces you to be diligent about all these things into constantly be trying to find it in the more you try to find that the more you're going to develop and learn ways that that aren't the right way find it but knowing that you never can find it forces you to be diligent about all these things into constantly be trying to find it in the more you try to find that the more you're going to develop and learn ways that that aren't the right way and then finding what what does work

just make me feel. I wouldn't just calling you a purple and blue is it just about like they don't give a fuk just as long as you're a real problem yeah I came out it was super cool nobody really gave me any s*** that's the best part about strong against you know you had Rob overseen here not too long ago and he's the one mansion you can still lift weights we don't care yeah that's it mirrors the comedy community in that way for sure like stand-up comedy community nobody gives a s*** you know the weight off my shoulders was was unbelievable what how long ago was this that was 2014 so I was 22 years old that's why I was a late bloomer in the gay world was it like when you were in high school and when do you know you know I don't know that I have like I don't remember like I never had like an aha moment per say for me it was going through high school like I was involved in a bunch of stuff you know you're actually also played football was doing the weight lifting thing like the class president so had my hands in a bunch of different pots College super and do everything as well really just focused on school and actually dated a girl for like a year-and-a-half and college in college yet but did you like a boy it was more like a friendship in a relationship again but you know like we were cool and everything and everything is going well but like nothing else was really going on when you came out with she like so did you like that's what I like really I thought it very differently than straight p*** because like straight p*** here's the rub in the straight Community you look at 3.2 like especially someone like me was daughter so you probably did something awful to those girls when they were young like that's like 9 out of 10 times yeah and that's why they turned to p*** but when you see gay points like a couple of dudes like to f*** even in like I'm at Dan Savage 11. You know we're talking about gay p*** it's like it's like they don't think of it the same way now or not at all yeah so I ended up breaking up with that girl and I told her I was like that like I think I'm gay and I need to like figure this s*** out you know I'm 22 like when I least enjoy my 20s you know trying to figure out if I if I like dudes or not she like damn she was not very nice about it yeah yeah it didn't it went downhill pretty quickly I really like we're living together at the time I can remember in college like my kind of living together and then like I got kicked out and my car for a little while so it was kind of a shitshow oh yeah them like you know like 6 months later she's like blowing up my phone saying gave her chlamydia I was like that's does not on me not on me that's it it's been longer than that to since we were doing anything so that's hilarious yeah yeah I mean I don't think it's because like all those like halls and everything we're coming through when I was with my now-husband Joey so like we were dating at that time and now my ex-girlfriend is going to my phone saying I gave her the clap but was he Laughing At first she was like what the f*** is going on cuz like we literally been dating for 2 months so you you become you decide okay I got a deal with reality I'm Gap you meet that one guy and then you're still with them still married with him we just got married this past March I'll send a year that's kind of crazy yeah you didn't even play the field about this all the time cuz we met in like the typical Millennial Gateway on Grindr and you know I was I wasn't even out actually before we met so like on Ender I was like that shirtless torso pic cuz I was still you know and she lives so we got really lucky with the first guy that came my way for her right yeah like I imagine being a girl in the where the guy is wrong with our relationship like there's no more other like it's me it's you and run it it's not you it's me is it that is like a way that some people try to fix it and particularly like uber religious folks yeah I mean I mean obviously like with an Instagram handle world's strongest gay I get more s*** on a daily basis on social media that I can't even count most of it's from like religious people really oh yeah jerking off while they're doing probably thinking about you do you need to stop being so gay and delicious my go-to responses you know hey man I don't read fiction so doing that but I just always think it's funny because you know they're like you know like obviously I'm very open with my sexuality on social media which is awesome and the comments on the world strongest man they're like you're pushing the gay agenda like all this b******* and I'm like listen now I'm like the only agenda we're pushing its like I just want to be treated like everybody else when I get the same s*** that you do you know I've never once like tried to make someone gay you know like meanwhile Christians are in my DM saying like you need to convert I'm not K you need to suck a dick like what it is about whoever is listening if you could like hit me up and let me know I'd love to learn about it yeah you need to get an entire net Club I guess I do the gay agenda got the rainbow Mohawk doesn't make me that gay it's not like you marriage is it people that are really dumb or they're secretly worried that they're so delicious and I share that all the time on my social media just so you know I think it's a good looking amazing that's what it is like worried about the gay agenda when I was 7 years old and moved to San Francisco neighbor was his gay couple my aunt used to go next door and they would get to get naked smoke pot and play Bongos together sick I didn't even hear the term faget until I was eleven and we move to Florida I remember hearing that when I was a little like wow like I had a my friend his name was candy candido is a Cuban kid and his dad was real mad cuz gay people getting married is reading this newspaper can't f****** believe this s*** down seeing freakout does like I would have weird thing to waste your time thinking about for sure I mean not send you were super lucky to have that kind of upbringing see that ugly part of you know the world cuz I mean the thing is with me know I'm fortunate enough for like not many people like talk s*** to me in person you know like I'm an average sized strong man like I'm not really that big of a dude what's the average size trauma you like 300 lb funny I just completed this weekend against Brian Shaw on the motherfukers 428 I'm 5-10 like a man cool like most people don't talk to me person it's like on social media but it did happen one time and Texas of all places I just finished a truck pulling in call me a fat guy from The Stand like all this stuff and like I was like dude I suck dick and I'm stronger than you you know I think like in that situation like I feel like people feel like they're Invincible like they feel like they have the power cuz they're in the crowd somebody like who's competing to like say something this year so it's really cool to see the support throughout the entire Community how do you get dubbed The Unofficial fan pay really who I got was getting like a loud Applause whenever my not name. Now I really don't give a fuk Aldi when I came out I didn't care what people thought I didn't care who thought you know if they didn't like me that in like now just cut him out you know for sure I didn't have to do that transpired was it because the weight of it was so it was gave me so much relief that you felt like who gives a s*** now now I'm free was it like that was there was a lot that went into it so I like in my mind I didn't like want to come out until I know it seems like I knew I was really gay no dating my now-husband for 6 weeks that was kind of the Tipping Point and at that point in our relationship we try to realize my car at this wasn't just going to be like a playing in just having fun like we are actually you know taking the steps to kind of be committed and see what was going to happen here not expected marriage but so I came out mainly because of him because he had he been out since he was 17 and at this point we were 22 and I didn't feel like it was fair for him to be in a relationship with somebody that the closet and I was like the biggest motivator for it and once you so so you re happy seeing this happy relationship so if people are upset at you you like I don't give a fuk I have what I want and I'm had better place yet and you also I mean I must defeat them in putting words in your mouth but I must feel like when you do become out or you do come out it must feel like a knot just a relief but like you use solidified you're fine you're free your you yeah yeah I mean it's it's exhausting like waking up every day pretending to be somebody you're not you know like you would have to act different than you want to do you have to talk to about girls to guys like when you were going to I was always just like Riley a year like when you were young with your like hey something might be different you know I think like I think back to like middle school and you know I think it's just like the Saratoga like I was in the theater I was in the music I played sports but wasn't really that good at them and actually was a cheerleader do you like I was trying my first cheerleading team in 7th grade and you know the funny thing is is he know there was tryouts and everything and I got the fourth highest score out of all the girls so I figured that was you know a little Telltale sign like I was I didn't turn my first cheerleading team in 7th grade and you know the funny thing is as you know there was tryouts and everything and I got the fourth highest score out of all the girls so I figured that was you know a little telltale signs

female cheerleaders whatsoever I have a buddy who's a male cheerleader who's awesome piece Chappelle's 99.9% sure you straight spell lazy but he's built like a brick shithouse to weird. Chapelle does the stuff we grabbed him by the feet and flips them in the area catches them on one hand but it's bananas physical power you have to have to be able to do that I'm in coordination now that's crazy balls can you go back then no no no that's that's actually one of the reasons why I like so I when I was in high school like actually look to do in college at the Collegiate level but tumbling was like a minimum requirement now so I can a little too chunky and I'm not going to do that s*** so cool and a substitute happened to walk by who owns a CrossFit gym and he was like Hey you know I am at this cross with you in like you seem like it like this stuff in a pretty strong like feel free to come by so I would start I started training with him like 5 in the morning before school and I found really quickly I stuck to CrossFit but I'd like to lifting heavy s*** in this was back in 2009 and walked into the gym one morning and they're like hey there's a a local strongman contest the Saturday was signed you up for it so when you say you suck CrossFit just a bunch of Olympic lifts and different explosive exercises just wasn't in shape to do magic well in the workouts yeah I got my ass kicked so glass place we were 17 and how much lifting had you done previous to that maybe before 5 months really but the point like I had hit the 500-pound deadlift and you don't have been Lifting for a couple months yeah I'll see just a freak genetically that's a lot of weight for a few months of lifting yasso the contest went horrible for me but I absolutely fell in love with the sport Springfield College in Massachusetts and join their powerlifting team and that's when I kind of got you no more of a background in lifting proper technique and all that stuff and then did another local strongman contest where I met this guy Matt Mills who owns a gym lightning Fitness in Connecticut where I train now and he was like yeah you know like I'm just starting to get all the strongman equipment you should come down it's only about 30 minutes from your school so I would I actually would go there every Saturday morning from when I was in college to train strongman and that's when I kind of started competing in the amateur circuit you know and that's kind of led me on my trajectory to hear rare people that actually lives in Connecticut I live in Massachusetts right over the Border work out real quick and at least and all that other crazy s*** you know the cool thing about strong man is every contest is different that we do we know we never do the same in all done the support for over 10 years now and I've never done a contest for the events of been the same in that span of time do you know what it's going to be before you sign up typically will you know what about series of left 8-12 weeks notice depending on the contest so the gym that I was going to in Connecticut they were just starting to acquire strongman equipment so pretty bare-bones so like we had a log you know for the log clean and press they had some Atlas Stones Some Farmers handles a yolk and that's pretty much it and then over the years he would get more and more and more and now it's turned into this massive 15,000 square foot facility in the gym on a recall and Equipment horror because he buys something every time something new comes out he buys it so yeah like my my exposure to the equipment in the beginning was pretty minimal but what I did to compensate for that as I just repeated more so I would pretty much from Springfield The Chew since I drove 5 Hour radius from where I was and any contest there was in that radius I would do so in my first like three years I competed probably like almost 40 times how often do these things being held at the amateur level pretty often there's usually you confide we know I would say one or two per month in New England alone all of the country so you know I think the cool thing is you don't like I took last of my first contest in that went on for a while I took Dad last night by first aid shows that I did so I got wasn't good at this thing when I started know when did you start being successful 20 so I went to amateur Nationals actually in the 200 lb weight class by weight in under 200 lb in 2011 was my first time at the international so I've been doing it for about 2 years surprised myself and end up taking second place in that Weekly I went back to the international does a 231 and 212 and took second place there and then won the amateur National Championship in 2013 and that's where I be turkey and where I won my pro-karting kind of got to that next level but it's such a difficult thing to do that I would imagine doing it 40 times a year like you're going to get injured luckily I didn't really get anything you know I'm fortunate we're so by trade and what I went to school for his I'm an athletic trainer so Sports I'm kind of been my thing so you know I've been lucky enough to learn when I was training of when I need to back off when I can push a little bit harder what needs to be taken care of and just try to be smart you know I'm going to be no knock on wood you know I've had one Serious injury in the 10 years that I've been doing this what was that put me out of commission for a little while and be not to drop it at a contest I was in second place by one point it was the final event of the contest and that I went to push the stone onto the the thing is with me being only 5 10 with the atlas Stones like the first box you have to put the stone on his high so this was 75 in tall secured ended up rolling off fell on my chest yeah buck and you know naturally that was the first contest my mom have come seen in person in like 4 years until March of 2019 took me out for a while at 275 lb f****** Stone ball and I was the last one we had in the series wow Jesus Christ so just your background and understanding athletic science or exercise science allows you to know when you're being silly and when you know you're not going to be a p**** but you're not going to be dumb exactly and I think that's where it's that's why lucky you know I kind of stayed injury-free because he didn't like to this day like you know somebody coaches you know pretty well renowned strongman Derek Poundstone who took second place in world strongest man and he program some crazy s*** for me but there are some days are just like you do this is not going to fly today when you have a light like what's a light day and 4 days a week and I get like one like I call him like my Brodie it's I bench back in arms day you know yeah yeah so it it's more just like cuz I bench pressing like villager triceps going to build up the anterior delts going to help like you actually helps your overhead lifts and so I do that and that's what I consider like my life is so so 4 days a week and so how do you how do you structure it to do every other day to do it all depends on it really is so typically I try to go Tuesday Thursday Friday Sunday that's usually my my average week so Tuesday is like my big overhead day where I'll do a strong man movement overheads like log press or dumbbell and then a bunch of shoulder overhead accessory work Thursday my day to is my biggest day so I squat and deadlift in the same day and that's a workout that sometimes takes 4 to 5 hours yeah places in between each workout so you lift and then do do you have like a large malathion and pepper recipes that sometimes like you know like we're building up the Arnold strongman Classic in Columbus Ohio this coming March and you know we have a Max that was coming up and you know I'm potentially going to be home for a 1000 pound deadlift and deadlift workout wear that was about 850 lb on the on the the deadlift right there what is that the dumbbell right there was 250 250 one arm overhead press yeah fukin a the deadlift always so what is that f****** things called what is the new building for abdominal pressure but also gives just like some tactile feedback to like nowhere you need to brace so usually weightlifters like we'll put it where like we feel we kissed in our core that's going to help us activate those muscles to be a little bit stronger and you know more effectively brace to prevent injury cuz I never protect you from a lift lifting heavy weights that strap on your back yeah it's not really tightness I guess it's not really meant like protect for say more just like help add extra support that's the biggest thing so it does you don't do heavy lift without no no now I keep it on yeah whenever I'm going heavy this pretty much standard for powerlifters powerlifting strongman just like help add extra support that's the biggest thing so it does you don't do heavy lift without no no now I keep it on ya whenever I'm going heavy this pretty much standard for powerlifters powerlifting strongman you like pretty heavy duty belts

not when you trained you train doing strongman stuff like you pull trucks and s*** like that when training yes or leading up to world strongest man I knew we had a truck pull we actually got to pull the the gravedigger in the Monster Jam fire truck at World this year which is pretty cool how much does Grave Digger way so the funny thing is it only weighs 15,000 pounds so they had to attach them so we will have two of them at one time does one ever say it only weighs 15,000 pounds you know I would like it if it was only one of them to be 450 lb the mountain from Game of Thrones 944 death that's for doing the event right there and you can see Gravedigger right behind them and then behind that they attached with a metal pole to the Monster Jam also use a rope to pull you as well so it's like kind of get a little bit of lever yeah there's a second truck right behind I borrow your truck to fall once or twice a week for 28000 pounds and it was actually casual that ain't shitt the second time the water was in it so it was 40000 Ono little bit harder and it made me look like an ass because like I told my friend that I was doing this this time thinking that it was the same truck and it was as light as it was the first time I've been like her and I look pretty cool in front of everybody and then I go to pull it in like 5 this is heavier yeah and like at 40000 lb truck at who's taking you like almost 90 seconds to pull and that's like 90 seconds of just nonstop work than her Christ what does it do to your knees the knees aren't too bad honestly it's just like the full body like burning like everything hurts like nothing feel like your arms are in front of you your quads ankles Am I Wrong injury that you see with like a truck pulls like the Achilles tendon rupture when you're trying to pull it with the fire truck that's more ridiculous see you pulling a f****** fire truck it was pretty fun yeah sure if you could do it you do it's fun just to that's a weird thing with people right there just love to be able to do something that's hard to do and I think that's why I like all of us are attracted like strong man that's why we compete you know like like I said in the beginning of the show like it's we all have to deal with f***** up in the head to look at a truck and get excited to pull it is that's so crazy have you ever seen the video of the strong man that throws the barrel up it hits the bar falls back and hits him in the head back of the head to that was on him is that guy dead now he lived is that guy dead now he left yeah I think it was an empty keg

you must be getting me this like the first time probably the LBGTQ Community has gotten behind a strong man though I mean this is just a pro athlete General really you know I think well that's like it that's the biggest reason for my Instagram name is just like showing lgbtq like visibility in Pro Sports cuz it doesn't exist and that's cool but men different animal know I think like there's this really big disconnect we're like people think like okay lesbian women are allowed to be strong they're allowed to be athletic but I can do all these really cool things gay men have to be feminine they have to put in this box and they shouldn't be pro athletes and that's one of the biggest reasons why I'm so you know I call myself like unapologetically open about my sexuality because like it really is you know the more you think about it like if you even try to think of like an open the game man in any Pro Sport across the world really mainstream I think you forgot about Brian Boitano gay don't remember South Park what would Brian Boitano do strongman is by no means like major mainstream yet but we're getting there people know about it for sure and I think to see like an openly gay man you know I say competing in arguably one of the most liked hyper-masculine sports in the world Sports UFC and lifting s*** like right like one you're beating another dude up the other one it's a bunch of guys standing around a weight be like how I'm going to pick it up and I'll pick it up I'll pick up after you know like it's like neanderthal yeah that's top of the food chain man leash it exactly so I think it's like super important to see like an openly gay man in a relationship Rock and rainbow Mohawk and rainbow tights out of the competition for I think that makes people feel more comfortable than if you just out there sling a dick in a relationship I'm not afraid of you but what does scare me is if you wanted to rape me you hell it I'm doing in the sport and just try to be more visible for the lgbtq community in Pro Sports in general I hate messages on a daily basis since all the time why do you love it a lot of people don't like to me I use it as fuel line there's no bigger f*** you to that person than me winning you know like that's alright that's how I look at it I'm one of the top 10 strongest man in the world competing at this Arnold strongman classic in March so that's why I love it I love reading that but light is a funny thing but totally sidetracked sucking dick and you would think that you would have a lot of sponsors that would jump in because of this though I would think because you're open and because this is such a manly sport and it's such a non-stereotypical thing would be like really positive for the LBGTQ community you know it's all you know and that's my biggest thing like while doing this whole thing is like just trying to spread positivity and love throughout the entire world you know I mean I talked about the hate messages that I got but like the ones that mean a lot or like you do I got a message a few months ago from a sixteen-year-old kid who was on the verge of committing suicide because he couldn't come to terms with the sexuality and he has post like finding my profile let him be comfortable with himself you know awesome crazy that's so cool it's like if I never expected to be that person just by saying I love this dude but you know sometimes how you get to be that person right yeah that's that's why this whole thing has kind of blown up into what it is and why I'm you know Fortune enough to now be working on a documentary it what's the documentary was approached by Andy who she was on the set of world strongest man and she was like once she saw my husband I kiss after one of the events like light bulbs just went off and she was like there's something here so I was approached about doing a documentary about my life Annabelle being the only openly gay pro strong man in the world how do I bet you're coming to my title in the closet WNBA where everyone's gay basketball to that's how I like at least strong my mood boards awesome but like I always think alike via the Family Guy episode where they're talking about the WNBA and they're like oh and listen to the fan that has one guy cheering in the Phantom and stands but it's a tough sell Julie strong maimuna Sports is awesome but like I always think alike via the Family Guy episode where they're talking about the WNBA and they're like oh and listen to The Fan guy cheering in the fan understands but yeah it's a tough sell

medical testing we have to go through before contest is crazy the Pat the medical packet that we have to get filled out by our primary Care's for world strongest man is like 48 pages long but yeah it's wild dude so that the email that it's like here's the medical pack you need done by this date and you pretty much to make an appoint with your primary care and get it all done so what is your doctor say when you come to him with that f****** 48-page packet well luckily I've gone to work a few times with it so she knows to block off sometimes she knows what it's because like we had to get an EKG testing we have to get a full blood panel done they have to look at everything because they don't want somebody dropping dead on TV ad already over train to write like your creatinine levels and they look at everything I mean it's a full blood panel they like I said they do the EKG they look at the heart they do and then it's a full medical history as well just get everything from parents to pass diseases to what runs in the family everything and are you guys aren't insured by these competitions are you know it's all on you a real piano risky I mean that seems kind of crazy that during the competition itself you're not you're not covered on us even those medical pack is like they say like all all all fees associated with this are up to the athlete expense and they don't pay that well can you put look at it so like wolf remains been around since the 70s the game right so the Arnold strongman classic in Ohio is like kind of seen as the most elite competition in the world because only 10 guys qualify for that contest will shocks me to get 25 and then the prize money in Ohio is better than world Strongest Man somewhat double so each of the Arnold International shows its standard prize money so young intl shows there was one here in Santa Monica this weekend there's Australia South America South okay Europe Canada I think that's it but we all know the prize money going into each show because it's the same everyone so it's like 10 grand for First 8642 Once they pay out top-6 but they also pay all our travel there so it's not too bad no but then the big motivation is to get a while right where first place is 85 Grand and a paddle 10 athletes but like third-place at second second or third place at Ohio makes just as much as world strongest man so this is probably why you have to compete for two times a year I'm a kind of imperative I think it's like 3 hours like I didn't really do that well this past weekend so I didn't make any money this weekend like a contest like he was more like a tag aging I was trying to gauge where I was at going into Columbus the events were really similar to do you do that look you have to be care old to not go to Crazy in one of these events cuz I lost something I definitely like held back this weekend you know I think I could have hit another gear if I needed to but already having my qualification of the Big Show I'm like mentally I had I don't think I'd be able to like turn it on like I need to in Ohio what date was week of March so your schedule like to prepare for something like that so the biggest thing so we look at the attached right so you know I mentioned we have the max deadlift so my goals that are 3000 lb which would be which would make me the first person under 300 lb of bodyweight to do that in history yeah how close are you I told 970 in July if you don't get to 300 lb don't gain too much weight you can nail I don't want to like I I was I was almost 300 like 298 at world strongest man in 2018 I was a fat f*** it was gross like I look at my house and I like 100 you wanted like the lady next to me like I had neck rolls on my neck rolls I like I was gross oh man I look at my pictures in my head look like a f****** blueberry and getting better at the sport so I don't see a reason to get any bigger but right now it seems do a deadlift for a regular person extra 30 lbs a lot but not when you're already doing 970 f****** pounds in like to go back to like the prep and like the ramp up this contest you know like before like this weekend we had the deadlift was a 775 for wraps in a minute and I pulled six which is okay. Like I probably could have pulled seven or eight if I needed to the winning number was nine and everybody that ironically everybody that finished ahead of me that event has already dead lifted over thousand pounds but like leading up into these next few weeks like I'm going to start working like my heaviest metal said it before this contest was 85041 I'm going to start working up into that modem did Nines in the next couple of weeks and probably have my lap heavy heavy deadlift probably 3 weeks before I contest 2 and 1/2 weeks before the contest and then do you deadlift at all before up leading up to the contest if I do it'll be light very relative body recover like people forget like when we're training this hard like we're beat the s*** and like where we get stronger when we when we rest and recover so I really don't exercise or lip like the week of a contest like I'll do my recovery workouts I talked about before we like I'm just kind of swimming hot tub sauna that stuff but I won't lift any weights and after like my body like my central nervous system like everything just needs a break and you get straw over that. Offer sure are overtraining and in other ways cuz now you really a deload right so it's like where you ramping up wrapping of going super having any back off for a little bit right in his last week Aldi load and there's some coaches that guy every 4th week of their program regardless and I don't agree with that cuz I don't think anybody can work that hard for 3 weeks to get to beat down their body enough for they need it every single fourth week normal people don't train hard enough to need regular D loads the DLow the guys who practice that way are they winning or they know in all honestly I don't feel people like I feel like you have to earn your deload and that's like what my coach does with me like I'm an old 6 months without a deload leading into this content that happened about a month-and-a-half ago and I knew I needed it because I was tired everyday regardless of how much sleep I got I didn't want to go to the gym every time I get to the gym I was f****** miserable I just wanted to leave I didn't want to look at anything I don't want to talk to anybody and I text Mike I need a f****** break and he was like all right cool I was waiting for to get to that point but if it's like it's like I feel like it's something you have to earn such as people like people think they work hard but they don't really know what that means until they're like actually pushed to do something and that's where it where I got that point and that's why I like these next five weeks are going to be like super crucial in my training to this contest cuz I'm going to I'm going to beat my body to s*** 5 weeks you know when my husband will probably get pissed off because I'll be a prick one or two times at least but it's like you know this the biggest competition of the world and I know what I need to sacrifice to get to that point and that's going to mean Long training sessions really hard training sessions and you know just like Sims going to be my body down just to reap those rewards at the end of it biggest competition of the world and I know what I need to sacrifice to get to that point and that's going to mean Long training sessions really hard training sessions and you know just like I said it was going to be my body down just to reap those rewards at the end of it it hurts and cranky and just

it's interesting that there's different she were different ones for different events yeah so the pulling for the truck tire one use a hiking ones so you're saying so this will be my first time using the typically we use rock climbing shoes because super grippy and dig into the asphalt these ones that I have from innovate now there are they there like anti-slip and they have gripping treads on them so I'm going to be using them for an event called the wheel pain coming up at the Arnold strongman classic which is based off of movie Conan the Barbarian a big bomb so they actually Rogue recreated that implement the Arnold ever really don't want to make it too easy for us while I'm in you just have to push it in a circle as far as you can in 75 seconds wow that's so f****** exhausted it's like even though something like a rolling on her for 60 seconds the first year they did this event and they change the rules this year where you have to keep your hands on the infinite like that like Brian's doing right there someone was just using their head yes so they don't want anybody to do that anymore so you have to keep your hands on the internet at all times and push like that what a dope design though I mean it really does lyrics they just got hired artist to carve it Wilderness get the snake everybody they I mean any of anything anything you could think of their this s*** have people to make it there f****** Echo Bike is the greatest cardio machine thing that I've ever used best it worse cuz it hurts the best Snakehead wheels so you have to push it against and so now they have to I can put it back together Nexus not like you could f****** s*** but I'm the only contest that use it for that one time a year push until you can't anymore goddamn banana slug of that so tired will come over like with oxygen afterwards you know exactly how they killed somebody is so free Robux for free Russian we think of strong people you think of Russians Eastern Europeans are always in the mix but honestly like dominating across-the-board lately has been us Iceland and that's about it is because we have the best steroids it could be what is a legal in Massachusetts so yes boundaries of all you just go at a buddy might have gotten a fighters on PCP to do bit off his finger and he didn't even realize it now he has a toe that they took they took his second toe and curved it so he can still punch so if you shake his hand his right hand shake see he's got a new me to shake a leg that's why wow shout-out to Joe Lake but obviously they don't want to take like that kind of stuff

try the new ones like Moxie and tx-6 or something what knew we'd know this new types of like psychedelic you're over that shitt I don't need that the stuff that's real good enough these people want to try something other than mushrooms like what are you looking for are you an ass is not strong enough for you that you can turn off that you can switch off Michelle Doxie it's 5-meo test where they just alter a chemical rice slightly it doesn't fit that's where 5 Meo DMT was not classified as one of the band psychedelics in the 1970s weeping psychedelic act n n dimethyltryptamine was it was labeled 5-meo is DMT with an oxygen molecule attached to it which eliminate some I don't know what exactly that works but the visuals are very different it looks very different feels very different it's way more potent and it was legal forever like you could order it in the year two thousands we would get it from a f****** Chemical Company where you ordered over the internet and they would send you like a aspirin bottle of the s*** you can literally put the entire city on the moon with that Astor at that little aspirin while I got two days and it was so potent and is his white your powder that is like straight from his lab, Seneca grade pharmaceutical grade you in the center of the f****** Universe you feel like you're part of every cell in every Adam and every new try everything but your your part of everything you were the soup of it all there's no Detachment between you and things yeah yeah everything's just said you're absolutely one hundred percent sure you're dead and it probably is what happens when you die and then he come out of it you like what in the f*** like I just got that from a company is order that with Visa card that goes crazy this is a new you'd be able to just buy the stuff I do isn't host of these different things like do you remember Salvia I was just talked about today that's the legal or not I don't know because it's kind of falling out of favor it's not something people talked about a lot but when people found out that you could just get Salvia from a head shop head shop supposed to be but then they start selling the most mind-blowing psychedelic known to man 10 minutes yes unbelievably powerful a podcast and you lived in alternative life for three months he had a family he had jobs yet friends and then all the sudden came back to reality and he's like what yeah there he is right there until he was different world the fake one am I wrong apparently when you would have the Catholic priest going down the aisle waving that would either be Sage which is I think like a derivative of salvia divinorum I think not a derivative of cousin may be a close relative I think sage and Salvia divinorum or extremely close Okay in terms of like the Genesis genus Genesis I think it's real close I think it's it's one of those things where they think that maybe people were burning that but they were probably also most definitely burning cannabis and so they will wafting through the aisles with cannabis smoke getting everybody Second Hand high the Epic structure gigantic beautiful artworks they're calling buildings stage of salvia okay all stages are over time do the terms has been closely aligned with cooking or medicinal use and the term salvias been give it to more ornamental members of the jenis-jenis never the last Salvia is the Latin name or genus given to all these plants stage wow or closing a basic process purposes yeah then it all lyric Ross yeah yeah early Frost yeah they apparently he's a really good one like they've they really think that that really could have been at well they also there's a book called the article about the Oracle at Delphi right and she had these visions and she would prophesy the future and they went there and they found that they found her stool she was sitting over or her stool if she said that this country likes doing big date you can get those dinosaur poop fossilized so they found she was sitting over a crack with natural gas coming out so she's getting high off of whatever that is so it was natural gas leaking out to the ground where she was partying yeah of course she's going to speak in gibberish and and having all these Visions like when you inhale totally makes sense yeah I think that's probably a lot of these cases of course wacky things that people did I mean it only makes sense I mean they never did figure out what Soma is in the ancient Hindu is that right yeah but they don't know what is all this different speculation like some people think was a combinatory that it was like psilocybin mixed with something else and lotus flowers always different different series but nobody really knows but someone was obviously something that they were taken as a Sacrament they would have these profound effects that's most likely the root of all of these crazy religious experiences as people are tripping they're f****** balls off and they weren't lying like God did come to them which is Rich and DMT that's probably why this is the the metaphor right though the burning bush and God spoke to them in the burning bush that's probably it really means they were tripping but he was smoking it tripping balls and they met God and it came back with this is the only way we're going to get along and go to stop raping each other mystery religions that you have to be initiated into them and if you're going to join this whatever for lack of better term and they give you here take this you are going to experience something not only that no one ever that you've ever heard of right but like you don't even know how to handle it will change your life away but there's no vocabulary for it there it's not like now you know that's it it's your likes holyshit this is religious right you see you would think it's god dammit God John Marco Allegro racial group that they put together that was agnostic did he start studying while he was he was a ordained minister Benny start studying theology as I wanted to look at the etymology of the words he is his conclusion after 14 years that the entire Christian religion was a gigantic misunderstanding and what it really was about was psychedelic mushroom experiences and fertility rituals okay broke down the word Jesus to an ancient word that an ancient Sumerian word that means a mushroom covered in God's semen and the idea was that the the rain which would make everything grow well God come and there wasn't a bad thing I didn't think of, as bad they wanted to live everybody wanted it wanted to have children they wanted to prosper you and that when the rain would come mushrooms would appear almost instantaneously I've ever seen and when they would eat those they would trip they're f****** balls up so they had decided that this was Jesus and that this this this was what is godson yeah God created us from his own seed this is what Marco allegro's his research was going to he was trying to say that what was really going on with these people are trying to hide a lot of what the Psychedelic rituals are from the Romans and from the people that capture them they hit them in stories and Parables and there was all sorts of problems in the tree patients taking things from ancient Hebrew and you're breaking it down to the Latin and you break it down to German and English and I can't I can't believe he got a positive reception for this if you're taken. Didn't necessarily the book got bought out okay by the Catholic church and then recently reinstated and then got out they bought it they liked it. I think they took it off the market I think used to be able to only get a copy of is the only be able to get a like a used copy okay and then Ian Irvin put it out he republished it like a few maybe eight ten years ago so now you get ahold of you also publish another book after they took that one back what I think I don't know that the total history of it but probably the second book the second book was the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian myth in the first one was the sacred mushroom and the cross only makes sense if you think about people who live back then and we know that psychedelic mushrooms aren't recent like forever people found them and they most certainly did as there's a lot of depictions of them and is also a lot of iconography and a lot of like you see shapes that resemble mushrooms like all over the place and some of the ancient artwork and even people that are dancing naked under the influence of a mushroom soup as a translucent mushroom shape that surrounds them and ancient paintings and these religious paintings these people are dancing samosa they were tripping balls well if you didn't know any better of course you would think that's God talking to you if you know what psilocybin is you didn't know what dimethyltryptamine is you know what any of these things are going to hear voices because if you look at all these religious but more like guides to live life in a more virtuous or Pius or more away and then after it's over you want to be a better person but there's also a sense of comfort that it's going to be okay traditionally gives a lot of people like a sense of reassurance that someone's looking out you're not going to accidentally you know going in that it's a feeling that even if it's not okay it's okay garbage Dallas was one of them sweet with I think it's literally the best show of all time I was his name Jr was there you trip balls and talked about on CNN and said that it was one of the best experiences of his life cuz he no longer was afraid of death that before that he was afraid of death and the one thing that trippin I'm trippin hard apparently really did for him that he no longer held that fear and he had stared death in the face with his alcoholism liver transplant Prince of his life cuz he no longer was afraid of death that before that he was afraid of death and the one thing that trippin I'm trippin hard apparently really did forms that he no longer held that fear and he had stared death in the face cuz his alcoholism liver transplant whoever was so it was no joke is a huge alcoholic

Rachel Hawk wasps sent me so this is one of the there's a guy who made a scale right he got stung by all the different insects and this is fighting five there's also a 5 plus they're very hard to get you the sting them is a guy who online goes through and get Sinnoh Stone but the reason they're so dangerous or or so venomous what they do is they sting the tarantula lay their eggs inside the tarantula and then tarantulas eaten alive by The Offspring 4 weeks and then when this was discovered this kind of stuff in the Middle Ages they were like this in a big theological dilemma because got wife at God make this happen yet why would God do that nature is I mean I could go down to the rabbit hole 4 hours please do so one of the one of the cousins that flowers called something in fantasy te so that didn't say anything about that flower represents the largest flower in the world two weeks yeah but the plant parasite right so the plant that it comes from has no stems roots or leaves so you can't keep it on display cuz it is entirely inside another species of Vine yeah we get ready people are there gorgeous they are beautiful oh wow look at that one where the guy's got his hand on it before so that's what it looks like sitting on the ground and then it pops open. Some f****** Avatar s*** right there I have something from the island of socotra which is an archipelago near the coast of Yemen called Duvall the Andhra duvalin dra and their flowers look I like meat because you won't attract flies and the hotter it gets in the house the more the flower smells it's really cool when you get into someone's actually heat activated just like rotten food would be it looks like a blown out butthole yeah but from an alien all there is there is a butthole that smells like s*** if you look up white slonia white Sloane a it smells like an a****** and has hairs that wriggle in the wind and it's it to replicate an a****** to White Sloane a like named after white and Sloan is from Somalia oh God how weird just the sheer variety and that smells like a butthole and has hair on it yet the hair mousse my friend calls and God mistakes you put it with the sheer variety of nature so weird isn't it great that mean we're just hoping that's not unusual is an assholes Not Unusual and every animal has an a****** why is it unusual to have a plant that looks like an a****** and we have the expression you're eating attract more flies with honey than like a pic to Shutterfly to ship you're going to flowers that smell like s*** yes and there's a lot of them there's a whole family of them and they're gorgeous yeah they smell when they pop open a fart noise like a fart cuz it's contained and then it pops open oh so like the gas is come out of it when it pops up Yahoo releases a dose you look up the biggest One Stop Aaliyah stapelia Are there any plants that have the same effect on people that like you know that one will not return evil plan actually the fungus so there's one branch of the cordyceps mushroom that infects ants get to know ya so that they spray the spores everywhere they die it grows inside of them then literally explodes out into the air so the spores one fact other ants Rowland ants find out that one of their members has been infected they'll take that Aunt way out of the community like wait to take a walk yeah cuz they know somehow or another that this thing's going to blow up on all their family he took they had found footage of this and literally like the mushroom grows out of the ant's head and the cops out if there's a lot of things that they're learning now about nature controlling the minds of other beings we haven't really a recent kind Discovery and have you locked news parasitic relationship one of my favorite ones ever was the the grasshopper that gets infected by this aquatic worm The Aquatic worm gets it to commit suicide so they can give birth to this warm it literally gets into the wiring of the Grasshoppers brain and convinces it to jump into a puddle what about the louse that eats fishes tongue becomes a functional tongue and become the time so there's there's a lot of this kind of crazy stuff yeah there's because it's so much easier to be a parasite you'd latch on your getting attrition you don't got to do anything you have to hunt you have to graze and you're just said well that's also just obviously parasitic if you want to think about it most organisms are semi parasite in that we need other organisms in order to survive if you're a farmer wants to hear a parasite if you're a beef farmer yeah and the other thing is if every species has several parasite they how many we had lice and it makes sense the majority of a parasitic micro-level you get down to her gut the different bacteria on your skin it's really fascinating how clever many of these organisms are it's a trip it's a weird thing to be a person my friend but it's also weird how we're finding out things that are even crazier and crazier the great now they're doing a lot of deep sea exploration and the things at the bottom of the ocean are just like what is that you saw that deepstaria thing. The jellyfish that looks like a lava lamp yes just like well that's also Dragonfish use a red light source because red doesn't show off show up for others so they can see what they've been known as can it's like my picture this is just amazing it's so cool and this hope realest amazing is how they're freaking out the scientist or watching it there like pacu got pretty that is now this thing has never seen light for millions of years it's the bottom of the sea so the fact that it knows how to react is Aurora's having a reaction is is pretty cool just the fact that that's a real thing that exists if we found out on the planet somewhere weird freak out this is the overlord this is the overmind of the planet and it's in the gelatinous form and it communicates you with vibrations this is why my autistic wouldn't let me watch Star Trek as a kid because I knew about stuff and then I'm watching Star Trek and they're going another planet is like a guy with a blue face and I'm just like this stupid it's just the guy wears look at Earth look at this right we can octopus it yeah they pulled it ashore and remove the octopus from the noble Eagle but a seagull sorry b**** that's a wrap but they're nasty their thieves they are so used to company that has a raise organic chickens that lost 2.2 million dollars and chickens to Eagles 160000 Eagles expats they go over there partying to have sex with underage eagles they were drafted for sure there's no rules up there that Wildland to the north believe that they decided to save the f****** thing and that weird oh my God octopus life cycle sometimes that they want have sex the male octopus and they just jakim and eat them what about the cut where they pretend to be female so they played yeah they're like beta males that are male feminists yeah they pretend to be something that London a female and pretend to be female and they f*** the females have male female mannerisms and characteristics just like these beta males and they sneak up next to him as an ally it's like they get their rocks off it's like every Washington Post reporter and they sneak up next to him as an ally it's like they get their rocks off it's like every Washington Post reporter and it's not in my last form autism is a good move

I'm an entirely convinced that we're going to be in inside of a hundred years live in a world where all of your thoughts really are documented and there's theirs they have access to them the same way no one in their Wildest Dreams conceived the photographs 400 years ago and 400 years from now we're going to have the ability to record record thoughts and ideas and they're going to be able to read the contents of each other's minds right they could be maybe we do maybe we need some regulation maybe or maybe we just have to accept the fact that most of what goes wrong in the world goes wrong because people can think these secrets sneaky fried up. And when we do those no longer exist anymore maybe we'll clean out human behavior limits episode about that in the 1950s listen to all these conversations Indian on all this fun fun stuff but then this is one guy who's really dark like he's going to he's going to come in and blow everybody away and climaxes where he comes in and tells everybody in it and they go in there and it turns out they were going to do that next door it's called and so he did the research on asking subjects have you ever thought about killing somebody you didn't like and turn it like 80% of guys and 67% of women have had homicidal fantasies in their life 99.9% of never act on tell me what you would do and oh my God they're just incredible to read like I would break every bone in his body and then I would pull out fingernails and then I would just go out of your life but it's just fantasy some people of suicidal fantasies this guy's thinking about robbing the bank so he had a fantasy about it going to do it I thought about doing that iPhone Sterrett pictures other people's butts right Instagram and no longer board you know when I was in my religious phase and in college I asked I thought I have no idea and need that play again the deaf shall hear again and your body will be whole again and so she says well that's he I had uterine cancer so I had my uterus taken out do I get my uterus back when I go to heaven they said yeah because I don't want it back and you liked it the earlier Christian cult sex before they card introduced dualism they believe that you are when you're resurrected at the Inn after your death you are physically there in heaven physically and your soul the whole thing that's just one thing so the question is what how old are you when you're there you know so you're brought up there you're sitting next to Jesus and God and then whatever 3030 seems like a good year three now so what happens all the memories of my life for the last 33 years how do you get all those memories okay but the memory of my being 30 now is different from the memory I had when I was 50 of being 30 and 40 being 30 and even when I was in my thirties being 30 in a bit the memories are always changing and edited in in in in in forgotten or modified Glee based on life experiences that happened afterwards so in your twenties you go to discology marry this person to take this job whatever you don't really know what the info in the impact of those decisions are until much later in life which is why I always think it's ridiculous for people to write Memoirs in their twenties or thirties cuz they're celebrities that you have no idea what those things actually mean until much later so this is the problem of who you are so first of all we already know that none of your body is the same material it was a decade ago your cells are all recycled the molecules and atoms are gone there's new ones that replace it the pattern is the information that represents you Joe Rogan this is what you look like these are your memories still somehow that this has to be copied so and Ray Kurzweil scenario of the singularity we're going to upload the mind they're going to copy your connectome all your memories in your synapses okay so right away there's the problem of will which memories will all of them there are no fixed set of memories that are you your memories are always changing so the mummy take a snapshot of it that's just a fixed Point that's not you really you are this Nina long Continuum that's always kind of flexible unchanging so there's that and then there's the problem the up mind uploading scenario is there's two kinds of cells is the memory cells meme south of all your memories and then there's the point of view South POV self so when you go to sleep tonight you wake up tomorrow you're still looking at the world through your eyes and there's a continuity of point of view from one day to the next same thing with general anesthesia so like in the Johnny Depp movie Transcendence where he's poised these terrorists and he's dying he's got to like a week ago he copies has mind connected clothing of the genome and puts it into a computer and then he dies and they turn the computer on and he's in the computer looking out to the little camera hole I don't see how this could happen that is if we copied you your connectome everything all your memories so we had a Joe Rogan number to copy ready to go but instead of you dying let's say we had a sophisticated fmri brain scan machine slid you into it copied connect them uploaded it into the cloud or what and you're in then we slide you back at your standing there you you're still looking at the world through your eyes that's just Joe Rogan number to copy and no more do you look at that than a twin looks at it siblings as well there I am no no you're still standing. I'm here that's just a copy of me and so this to me seems essential problem with the Mind uploading scenario it's just a copy did you see the thing National Geographic today about the cloned monkeys no yeah Jimmy I tweeted it earlier today it's crazy and what are speculating that if they can do that to monkeys they're going to be able to be able to do that to him who is that that is very weird like ice data girls twin sister look exactly like her but like a little off just as something I feel like I truvista super super confused so they weren't the same person but they pretty much worry yeah here's the here's the article school at their clone monkey created in the lab now what yeah okay the article school at their clone monkeys created in the lab now what yeah okay well so you're making copies but it's not the same person individual life experiences at the moment you and your copy start diverging away and leading different lives in a different memories

things like that sell out in your book did you go over near death experiences who do you think is going on like when people like the ones that are fascinated me or people in the hospital bed that's either body right and you're dealing with a bunch of chemicals are released in the body right there's morphine and all sorts of dig out things yet basically on the edge right so important member that they're their near-death experiences you're not actually dead so there's there's a liminal transitional stage there where you're sliding into some other state of consciousness and altered state of consciousness and we know that if you inject or you take those are molecules that operate on a lock and key mechanism with the synapses in your brain and your neurons so if they these external drugs were in this molecular key mechanism there must be natural chemicals similar molecular weight to that in the brain already just in smaller doses so one theory about near-death experiences is that is this this is a way of transitioning from living to dead without feeling anxious and falling apart and upset and depressed or whatever it's kind of a smooth feel good in a better than a morphine drip kind of way of making the transition and that but we know for example that this scientist named doctor whinery work for the United States Air Force working with Pilots accelerating them in a centrifuge and they would block out this part of their training and 2 days 3 G's for G's boom out to go at at some point like 10 Gee's and most of them have these little dream what states that he called them which are kind of like I saw a tunnel floating out of the seat and having these sort of weird experiences and we know brain blasting to go your brain stem of course keep you alive so the cortex of shutting down from the outside in that would create this kind of tunneling effect in the back of your skull or your visual cortex is that would create some of that open brain surgery seizure on epileptic patients where they cut them open and they poke around to see where the seizures are starting and so they could zap those neurons instead of some big crude attack and anyways so while they're doing that to get permission from the patient to wake him up while they're on and the brain is open and they tap around with electrodes so this is one way to map with the brain is doing if so what do you report when I tap hero I just had a vision of my 10th birthday or whatever it's like okay that's where that that's start right there another spot right on the temporal lobe just above your ears where you can tap it and the person says oh I'm floating out of my bottom up by the ceiling now and you tap a little to the left on my left leg is at my right leg is at night my left arm is floating my right arm way up in here now I'm coming back down just by you know with a rheostat just controlling how much electricity is going into the neurons and that one particular spot so we know for sure that the near-death experiences are in the brain that experiences that the people report a real they have experience but we know it's neurologically based now the counterargument is yes of course you have to have your brain to have experiences but it's kind of like a doors of perception opening into this other Realm these chemicals allow you to do it's like by the way I've been talking with the Graham Hancock about he's invited me to come join him and arrhythmia in Costa Rica to try this and I've never tried this and I'm tempted to go do this to say okay let's I'm going to write about these things I should or does it open some door to some other dimension okay that's and the near-death experience Believers counter that will yes it's in your brain but it still is taking you somewhere else the problem is is that how you tell the difference between I had a personal experience that the only way you can share it is if you actually go through it yourself for a scientific community that studies it well there should be some way to test it somehow or tell the difference between that sell for can you dealing with memories and dreams and ideas like you can't measure those either that's right so the most famous example is that even Alexander's trip to Heaven he wrote a book called proof of heaven now this is a harvard-trained neurologist he knows more about the Brandon I do and so he knows all the research I'm talking to you about and there's a lot more powerful sou Texas tripping the colors were unbelievably intense and Rich I felt just deep personal love for the people I saw on and Oneness with the cosmos and about this quote from Oliver Sacks Memoir when he talks about in the sixties when he was dropping acid and then the colors were incredibly intense and I had this incredible feeling of love and connected and I quote from Sam Harris's the opening pages of waking up and took ecstasy and I'm sitting there in watching my buddy and all of a sudden I feel as intense love for my friend that you and the narratives are indistinguishable to an outsider so how do you know that you're actually going to heaven or you're just having a fantastic trip once entirely possible it's both going through chemical doorways that are created by these molecules and that it experiences some frequency on the on the dial if there's a radio dial maybe we're at 95.5 but if you can get 297 if you take you know x amount of milligrams of diamond a tryptamine and then you go to this new place physically here not true I don't know but that's the idea yet sounds good getting at is super cork problem of what is truth definition personal and you can't corroborate them through some external scientific method so I mean Science is based on the that's true because I experienced that you know so I wrote a column inside of America mouth is called what is true that I start off with like why the truth for me is that dark chocolate better than milk chocolate and maybe you say milk chocolate slide there from into things like these personal experiences we have so you know so what I think gram is hoping if I go to with me and try Ayahuasca and I say while I report this fantastic experience I had presumably I'll have this and then it'll be well did I go to this other dimension and now I really kind of as a skeptic need to renounce my pure materialistic monistic belief in and admit there's a dualistic that's another side is a spirit side or something cancel my pure materialistic monistic belief in in in in admit there's a dualistic that's another side is a spirit side or something and I'm not at all sure I could do that because how would I get out of my own head and say I know for sure that that I went to this other place cuz I wouldn't know

log press is my bread and butter and talked about then there's all the Yoke walk which is no proper stance pick it up on your back and walk with it you know that's one event that I'm really well known for his Wellness one that Martins tends to struggle at so I can buy man we had a 1350 lb on that thing it was a b**** and then we had to pick up a 1000-pound yoke and then the 1350 about like cranial pressure like my I felt like my eyes with purple withdraw me like when you have $1,300 in your back like you're not going to breathe that well like you can't really expect your lungs in your ribs to breathe properly was holding your breath so and that's with most myself like I hold my breath whenever I do moving events and I just try to Exhale and inhale is shortened as small as possible just to get enough so I don't pass out pretty much is anybody pass out all the time 2018 I like the way you cared it was just like resting right on his diaphragm and he didn't pick it up high enough to go onto the platform he just ran into the platform fell backwards and was just out cold and Magnus ver magnusson is standing right next to him another awesome name great name didn't which didn't move a muscle he just goes part of what we do I can only imagine it doesn't stop it doesn't sound good when I'm saying it out makes sense though not typically it has happened the only person that comes to mind is a guy I can't remember what year was Jesse marunde and he he did have a heart attack in the gym when he was training and that's how he passed away and he was I believe he's only 28 or 29 years old it happens in Jiu-Jitsu yeah and then you know I mean another thing is like sleep apnea because you guys are so big so that caused a lot of stress on the heart I don't you know I'm pretty fortunate that I don't have that issue when I sleep you know about a previous coach Mike Jenkins he passed away in 2013 because of sleep apnea and you know just a strain on his heart yeah it's not good it's basically not sleeping yeah I don't even suffocate yourself it's crazy so a lot of the guys at this level do but I mean that but that's mainly like their size and I have it really get around that 300 lb body weight like you snore not terribly on planes I do but that's cuz my Annabelle bodyweight like you snore not terribly on planes I do but that's cuz my

what's so fascinating to me when you think about people that explore the boundaries of what a human body capable of and strong man is like what is like guys who do you like David Goggins to do like the ultramarathons but strong man is like that's another form of this extreme pushing of the boundaries of what is capable I've gotten even like the weights keep getting heavier every year everybody keeps getting faster and I don't like all the time when the f*** is this going to stop you know like we show up to a contest right there was literally contest in 2018 where the devil's was 880 lb for wraps the log press world record is 502 lb overhead right now you know it's just like these crazy outlandish numbers but like the people like we keep doing them so I guess we're doing it to ourselves to point I guess so but do you like what is pushing is it just it you is it a preconceived idea what's possible and now that the bar has been moved and now you realize it or is it just a people or more tific about their training now that's what it is I think it's and it's also like when it did the evolution of equipment over the years you know like with Rogue being warm and Equipment sponsor now they make all strongman equipment so like regular people have strongman equipment in their gyms you know you're like PT clinics that have Farmers Handles in them for people to work on core musculature and talk to her when they're walking so I think just like the general availability of strongman equipment has made it easier for people to train it more regularly and get better at the event you look me up a practice you know like being strong is great but you have to be able to manipulate the movement and manipulate the Implement to work and that's where just like the training in the practice at portion of it comes in so I think that's why we've seen you know a lot of these weights being pushed so much further because everybody pretty much as regular access to these Norman influence now like how long have people been doing this when was the first Strongman Competition I mean strong that dates back to like a 1700 really to look at old you know quote" strong men doing these Feats of Strength one of the most notable names is Louis cyr Canada who was about my size actually and is revered to be one of the strongest man in history and so he was doing like these dumbbell lifts in these baculus these hipnthigh list and stuff like that so strong that's been around for a long time but world Strongest Man didn't become a thing until the 70s that's one world Strongest Man 77 was the first year and that's when it kind of became a sport no not just a kind of a hobby I guess so how do they determine what stuff you're going to do for the World's Strongest Man did they mean did they have a panel of experts at sit down and devised each individual event would like potato sack races back at World's Strongest Man a long time ago now it's little more standardized where they do have like a committee where it's Nino people from the strongman circuit and judges and stuff like that but they also bring TV execs cuz they want stuff that's going to look cool you know Bea and I think that's a great thing because you don't want us like stuff that is cool to me isn't going to look cool to somebody that doesn't want him out the sports sometimes so when they choose the events like pulling two monster trucks like okay one it's you have to be strong as f*** to be able to do it but also looks really cool on TV I love both of those things to make it the most pleasing to the average person occult but also impressive exactly like the deadlift event they don't have us this is one of the world records that he did and how old is he and he's just chilling and you just have to hold it as long as you can have his f****** shoulders yeah that is preposterous it's dumb that dude has Preposterous muscles deep and heavy or an event like this it sucks 30 that is crazy that's exactly it to Black tongue cracked and outlying amazing so with with an event like that it's more just rely try to relax and getting into like a comment estate because you don't want to be super revved up because you're not moving you're just focusing on your grip and that's the biggest thing for an event like that but then there's also events were like okay when your max in your deadlift you do have to hold your breath right so it's different for everything you do look at it police system in the gym so you just like regular handles that use them like a cable machine set up a pulley on like a squat rack or like one of the Rogue rigs have a loading pins coming down stack weights on that and then just pull up holds like that hangs from a barbell barbell from a pull-up bar how long can you dead hang for a minute that's impressive of guys that heavy so I woke up my shoulders usually get tired

you like President I was just telling Jamie that I was in I spent New Year's in New Hampshire with Andrew Yang and yang gang cuz I'm writing about him and I have to tell you like I'm really not just saying this the power of it was insane like I went down the line waiting to get into this bar was snowing outside I just like I asked everybody had to hear about Andrew Yang like 80% of them was from your podcast unbelievable I like I like his energy I don't know if I agree with him on like I don't have strong views about you bi or what he calls the freedom dividend thousand dollars a month I don't know what I think about that he's looking against circumcision he's like all of these views about things agree with him on most of his things every year guy from that all the time is very, like multiple children per year lose their penis from an unnecessary Antiquated operation will you cut off their dicks to make it look different cutting skin off of their dick and they wind up getting infected and they lose their text its it mean it doesn't happen all the time but it happens enough time where you go this should never happen this isn't completely unnecessary operation probably going to be 229 deaths per year from circumcision the United States Bollinger estimated apparently approximately 119 infant boys die from circumcision related each year in the u.s. 1.3% of all male neonatal deaths from all causes there's several case reports of death in the medical literature yeah it's not simple you're cutting skin skin is an organ your you you have an unnecessary unnecessary operation you doing to an infant and it's decorative prevent STDs and don't know it don't wash your dick ridiculous ritual doesn't make any sense the arguments for and against like that it's prevent STDs like let-go prep prevent STDs condoms and abstinence that's what prevents STDs and end in some cases vaccinations this is what prevents STDs this circumcision is ridiculous William yeah don't cut baby ducks it's real simple you say it that way people go yeah it sounds gross coliseo circumcision like oh what a wonderful ritual that is symbolic of your journey until it's the f*** out of here cutting baby dicks it's it doesn't make any sense I mean it's not as disgusting as what they do to women's clitorises and Indian insert yes doing in a way that's okay like if you cut a piece of my earlobe off I'm going to be alright family of four daughters I have not thought deeply about I did not know that statistically put it up there and talk to people who have had immediate family members who have had a horrible illnesses or injuries from circumcision play four daughters I have not thought deeply about I did not know that statistically put it up the most people don't know it and I talk to people who have had immediate family members who have had a horrible illnesses or injuries from circumcision

do presidential candidates everything before we got to love his energy like him as a person a lot he's like he's real you know he's like most politicians are aliens and he's not and it's so refreshing and who is this rational he's great and one of the things that is so like refreshing about him is that the I don't know if I've been in a room in the past year with so many former Bernie and for former Trump people which are a lot of his supporters you know we're like disaffected disappointed Trump people and then people that supported Bernie in 2016 and there's just I don't know like when you hear him talk the villain of his stump speech is not Donald Trump even though he hates Donald Trump the villain is Amazon and big Pharma and you do automation like the things that are actually transforming and decimating the country this emotional Journey with Biden where it first I'm like totally like I liked him then I'm like old kind of losing it no way he can win and now I feel like I've gone back to maybe like you cuz he's way too old I will be very surprised if the candidate is not Bernie both because of the fundraising and because of where he is in the polls and because and this is the most fundamental thing the the energy in the country right now is a populist energy and I just don't think that a moderate like the ones that I like like Klobuchar abiding can capture that the energy of the base I think it I think that energy is just really you have a f****** and put Elizabeth Warren in and it's only going to have a hard time when someone is the sitting president who is extremely controversial extremely polarizing but also we're in a great time economically that's hard for people to deviate from it's hard for people to deviate from good economy when you look at the stock market when you look at a lot of things that you could point to the standard issues that you point to and then you deal with all this Lunas on the left that Trump is the complete opposite of you he's being a little finger exactly when he got it off as I said political correctness just got hit with a missile to the dick that's what it was like when that guy got an office like what the f*** he just want after all that grab the p**** stuff and all that all the craziness behind the fact that he was able to weather that storm and it didn't even seem to shake them if you don't like me I get loud you know we know what we really need that guy know we need Trump as president it's going to be hard it's going to be it's always hard to get someone out of office I mean what song George HW Bush was Ross Perot in a lot of people forget that Ross Perot this eccentric billionaire got on television and bought an entire half hour of regular Primetime television and put on this display why you're getting f***** and explain taxes to you and explain Mike Bloomberg going to be the Ross Perot of 20/20 it doesn't make sense he doesn't make sense I don't think he's he's wasting his time just think he's the opposite of what people want they don't want that ever existed if you catch them in their worst moment and you magnify those moments and you cut out everything else and you only display display those worst moments that's you can't find very many with Bernie he's been insanely consistent his entire life he's basically been saying the same thing and for the same thing his whole life and that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from and he's addressing the thing that people are most obsessed with right now which is economic and equality and he's a really consistent on it resume normal winning now but did you like him I was a huge Division and people I know either they love him or they really really think that he's like graph of noxious all of that I know you don't like Tulsi I love her I love her I love her think she's awesome I love her I love Bernie and I love Andrew Yang and I talked about calcium periodate I forgot to bring up Andrew Yang I apologize for that I said everybody else can eat s*** I didn't mean and I really I do like it was just a mistake when is the Tulsa appeal for you well I think she first of all is someone who served twice overseas been deployed twice and understands the actual cost of War worked in you know medical units saw people murdered and shot down and ended destroyed by War and she wants none of it she wants us to have less intervention interventionist foreign policy decisions that affect people's lives and send our young brothers and sisters over there to go that's one thing she's a person who served in Congress you understand that work is a very nice friendly person I believe her when I talked to her she's very genuine you know and you know if you want a woman president that's that's what you want you want a young woman who has served in Congress who has served overseas been deployed she makes a lot of sense with a lot of things she sang that's what I like about it got it 0 painting on her I like her 0 purissima though in your life and until things are really popping where I have to pay attention to her I'm just like she ain't got shot together would be a f****** devastating combination I really do I don't know if they'd ever work out together I don't know if that's possible but I think them together might work that might work. Might get enough people to go you know what this is all just too f****** crazy let's let's try something different calling a Russian asset like under strange that Hillary Clinton said that I do but I know I'm not a fan of Hillary Clinton I'm not a fan of that hole I did there a part of a different world right there a part of a different world where corruption was open and accepted and it was a part of the program and if you pay attention to the Clinton Foundation you pay attention to the the amount of money that they would get paid to speak to Bankers in the fact they wouldn't release the transcripts that was a great thing about Bernie during the 2016 election who is the transcripts transcripts Larry David and it was like it was very strange that I'm literally looking in there but him as a human being when I was hanging out with him believe in him I like him I like him a lot I know that scandalous thing about in The Daily Mail just like with like Bernie Sanders he request his Junior Suites in his hotels to be 65° and he asks his staff to collect honey packets Soviet Union for Nicaragua I mean his foreign policy stuff disaster and that's what that is what Trump will crush him on Trump wants Bernie to be the candidate would be great to Rock I mean he's foreign policy stuff disaster and that's what the depth that is what Trump will crush him on Trump wants Bernie to be the candidate would be great to

I think it's really good about church is the community yes I mean this to me connect to the thing that we open by talking about which is polarization and tribal you know the tribal politics for a living and I think you've had Jonathan haidt on the show and really in about this that we were evolved to be religious creatures in a certain way and what happens when we lose religion that impulse go somewhere that impulse has gone into you know politics you know it's like why are the stakes of that so unbelievably High because that is sort of the operating system that people are organizing their life around more and more to convince people that are on convincible if they're you know I think fighting for the idea of God is sort of a losing argument in the culture so how do we retain the good things that came from religious structures in a post god age I think that's a huge question what are what are people really wary of 1 things are wary of is the recluse right where we're aware of the Unabomber weary of that guy who lives in the woods and it doesn't the isolationist doesn't need anybody else there by themselves like will that person doesn't follow by the rules of our community will what are we comfortable about a comfortable love friendly neighbors we're comfortable I can't you need help you need me to help dig out of the snow do you need this do you need that like that's what we loved right cuz then and we love people that share our values right we like to live in a community of shared values because then you like you're all we're all comforting each other all saying we're all in this together we have hardships we going to have a good time but the the will have more good times will be able to get through the hardships if we operate together with similar values living in an age where people are completely isolated you know everyone on the campaign Trail talking about the diseases of Despair and how the lifespan in this country has gone down for the past 3 life expectancy has gone down the past 3 years be remembered is an unbelievably transformative time and Trump is only one data point like he's a symptom and he's a catalyst but he's not the whole picture and to see him as a whole picture I think it's just like completely missing the moment that were in a lot of what's going on here and I mean what you said the people enjoying when people can speak their mind when people see Ricky Gervais get up at the Golden Globes yes yes Chappell's like Chappelle was something like 20% favorable know it was 00 and again and again and I just wonder like how that resolves itself or maybe it doesn't it suck when you have I come to meet the common man when we talk and people listen to reasonable discussion then they feel more emboldened to have reasonable discussion of their own maybe perhaps some private maybe I just f****** put tin foil over the window Bolt the door shot make sure they can talk honestly it isn't worth living in the freest Society in human history and people are acting like the Stasi is looking over their shoulder what would it look like if all the journalists at the Washington Post New York Times and Wall Street Journal were banned from being on Twitter circular thing where we all know the landmines right like the things we don't want to touch like the hills we don't want to die on and it's what's scary about the Stasi like atmosphere of it is like my job is to write opinion columns and commission other people to do that and yet I feel the self-censoring even before I've written right round like wait I don't want to die on that Hill I don't want to unlock is that really the battle I want to take on I should probably just stick to this topping instead of that topic because I know if I do that topic like I know what awaits me like why am I why would I willingly go to the guillotine well that's what's weird about your position because you're an opinion writer right and that's what you do when you're not allowed to give your honest opinion in a lot of people's eyes they want you to be compliant with woke culture and I think one of the reasons that I get in a lot of trouble or and provocative or whatever the words that go before my name or whenever I mentioned now controversial is because I you know I think more than others I refuse to follow the rule because what's the point like role confusion the crowned like I'm not going to waste my life following some fake rule determined by random people on the internet and like this desire for you to comply I mean this is part of the game that's going on when people don't have control their own lives they love to control other people's lives and one of the things that happens when you have an opinion that does not follow the whatever the path has been clearly grooved for us to when you you're supposed to have very specific ideas about these very clearly Define subject when you deviate from those and people start attacking you they're the ones are trying to do and many of them is a lot of what they're trying to do this it's new ones but one of things are trying to do with a trying to get you to listen to them so that they have some power they feel powerless in the world and if they can push your button if they can break your glass have some power they're also trying to issue a warning right they're issuing a warning to the people in their group saying if you deviate we're going to do to you what we're doing to her right now and you know and it just like what's sad about it it's like the number of young people I know who are so talented and you know where our dogs or just independent minded people like liberals they choose not to choose not to become public people like they decide not to go into journalism not to do company not to do any number of things because like why would you choose to you know being that Arena if this is what it means

I love the fact they said that it's racist when he calls her Pocahontas racist political judgment when she decided to publicly go through the DNA in the 23andMe or whatever it was approved that she was in fact partially Native American it was like just dude back off from behind forever now no matter what but now at least it's off the table she showed the slightest sliver of Native American Elizabeth Warren's not the candidate that's not going to be what he hits her with every single time for sure but it would be more on the table if she's never taken a DNA test for sure if you lie about being Dutch okay it's like you know it's kind of a cool daphna City but it's not that but you lie about being Native American it's different because like they're one of the most maligned and repressed people's ever in in recorded history I mean they were wiped off the face of the map and stuck into these little pockets of land that don't have strong natural resources I mean I've been I'm on my fifth book in the last three months are Native Americans became obsessed Empire of the summer Moon book on the Comanches and it is f****** incredible it's incredible when you realize like that this was going on in this country just a hundred and fifty years ago and that for hundreds of years the Comanches just dominated the West they dominated the plains in until they invented a gun that can shoot more than one bullet the the white men with us the Comanches with just dominate them cuz he could shoot our left an hour and they were just a ferocious people that know artwork no beadwork they just they just made teepees like they'd really they weren't they didn't have like a lustrous like works of art and beautiful can them with the with the Comanches World War people they they rated they hunted the ate mostly meat all they ate was me they did barely they didn't Farm didn't do any farming there's roamed around killed and just dominated the entire Western half of this country for hundreds and hundreds of years cuz they were the first ones to figure out how to ride horses they were the first ones to not to figure out how to ride horses but to to raise horses animal husbandry they they they figured out how to accumulate large Stables of horses and ride them better than anybody could you need to read that the woman out there that's on the wall that the outside they didn't need American woman is breastfeeding woman a baby and Parker Cynthia Ann Parker was she was abducted by the Comanches when she was 9 years old and then became accepted as a part of the tribe and then went on to be the wife of the major cheap one of the major Comanche Chiefs and then was kidnap back by the United States when she was 30 but she didn't want to be a whole lot but the history of the Bison in the United States in the Native Americans that would travel with the Bison all these different tribes that would they basically coexisted with the Bison just moving bison as they migrated in hunting the bison and I was just like one strange thing that these people lived in the Stone Age but fantastic way with all these myths and legends and stories and have so much magic in their life and then all that's gone all that's gone and now we just like that but that's a big deal magical cultures in a lot of ways because the day did horrific things to each other there's no doubt about the Comanches were f****** ruthless to each other to other Native American tribes they they went on war constantly of a rating each other constantly kidnapping abducting murdering I mean there was this has no like this idea of Native Americans being like the way they lived was but fascinating fascinating and powerful and they had their very strict rules and codes of operating that were very unlike the Western world and they were invaded they were invaded and dominated and killed off by disease and then ultimate I mean there was neither were shooting Buffalo to starve the Indians out there was a lot of crazy s*** that went down so when she comes out and says you know Ohio grub Native American. The f*** you did the f*** you did and the more books I read now I'm on Black Elk speaks which is my favorite one so far because Black Elk speaks is an actual man named blackout who is a iguala Sioux medicine man Lakota medicine man who in the 1930s told his story so he was alive when he was there when Custer was murdered the Sioux were forced into reservations he's telling the story of them going from living this nomadic life to be enforcing these reservations reservations and starving and alcoholism and all that they chaos that came with it so then this one is this one's the best because it's literally his words to get a direct translation he's talking to his son his son is talking to the author in the book was written the 1930s right now with someone but we're working on that right now we're reaching out to a couple different Native American groups to try to find a good representative representative to come in and talk about what you know their grandparents and the stores that they had heard yeah it's it's crazy subject and it's to me pretending you're anything is not good but pretending your Native American to me is like whoa that's because that's one where everybody it's there's like a spiritual the aspect Native Americans it's implied like you say your Native American people to Hawkeye f****** knows things you're allowed to have feathers you can have a non ironic dreamcatcher on your wall you know it's like cosplay as ya from their great-grandparents and also the thing about Parker right Cynthia Ann Parker was 0% Native American but she was 100% Indian she still was a Native American Eve cuz she's a abducted when she was 9 and live their life she wanted to go back and get her words you know when when when she's describing the difference like the command world was filled with magic and gods the water was a guy the sky was a God everything was it was magic lets you would do his rituals that would do to protect themselves in combat and all these things made life fantastic this to the hunting of the buffalo in the nomadic way of life and then all sudden to be locked into these buildings and wearing these clothes and stuck Within These rituals that the white men would were live she didn't want to have any part of that so even though like you know was Cynthia Ann Parker's if she had sex with a white man and made a white baby that is not a Native American baby but it kind of is you know I mean in terms of culture she's she was 100% all in Comanche when they eventually abducted her back amazing stuff so f*** Elizabeth warranty that crazy Native American talk to her maybe she didn't know she was 1 mm Native American think I don't know she's she's an expert and and she's clearly did pulled her aside and in private and said a woman can never be president tell me how you saw that moment well the CNN moment was very interesting right when she walked up to him in this very public way that I think you just called me a liar and a thief it's incredible I think it was a ploy I don't buy it he's been her Ally forever and to me it shows a sign of great disloyalty and great dishonesty like the way she did it she did it as it's a ploy like ideally her and him could be allies and she could be GNC together you should be allies right he's a powerful force in the Democratic party she's a powerful force in the Democratic Party from like many years ago where he said that a woman is never going to win all the time which is can a woman win Bernie gave an answer that probably let a lot of people giving those conversations which is Maybe not maybe the American people are too sexist to elect a woman like that's possible if she meant that in an observational way not at any judgment on who she is or the capability of a woman to be president and she heard it in the negative way of almond can be president strategy on your part that backfired that's not a question but I also think that you know I have those conversations every day can a woman be present while they have these ideas about what a president is and a president is an older male who is well-spoken and educated who understand this many factors yeah a&n lot of other AR right now and you aren't you working man Andrew Yang is like experience what are cyclist mayor is now running for president I mean she came hard she went hard the that was the real problem with it was it it was obviously calculated it didn't it when people are talking if someone said look if he was like a closet misogynist can't win or maybe not made any sense was not anything sexist or misogynist I say sometimes I ask out loud to my friends I don't know if a woman can't win for president will Hillary won the popular vote if you and I were just sitting around having a cup of coffee and we're just talkin we just talk and then I went and when I decide against this is a statement I'm saying right now I don't know what my next word is going to be alright everyone knows that we we all know that when we're talkin it's learning through reading a speech or if you have like a very clear doctrine that you liked this is my this is my idea of the world let me let thought this through very carefully down and I like to share it with you I'm going to hold you to that and then if you change that opinion I'd like you to tell me why you changed it and tell me why you why you were wrong but that's different you talk maybe that's what he said you know maybe that's upset and then she's like he privately told me a woman can never be present

what we're talking about with anti-Semitism one of the reasons why it's always been so confusing to me is because it seems to be this there's a lot of these white supremacists that they did they lean in that door they lean towards anti-Semitism first like almost it's almost more acceptable is almost more like they think they can get away with it they'll find more support online like if you say online in a lot of these forums like if you say hey we got to get rid of all these black people you're going to just going to be so many more red flags then if you say we have to get rid of Jews I don't understand that one because it's when people look different from you if you are an Asian person who is racist against black people or a black person is racist against white people or if someone is different than racism racism is always disgusting it's always horrific and ignorant but at least I can kind of see how you could be tricked into thinking that way I don't understand anti-Semitism list in times of economic and social upheaval the reason that anti-Semitism is resurgent right now is because I'm not justifying it but it's because we're in going back to our earlier conversation a time where people are disoriented their disaffected they're confused their shortchanged and they're looking for an easy answer which is a huge huge huge idea that anti-Semitism is built into the scaffolding of Western Civilization. It's never going away it's like think about it like an intellectual disease that's built into the foundations of the civilization that we live in and in times where that Civilization or that's a given Society is healthy anti-Semitism along with xenophobia and racism and all kinds of other bigotry or sort of kept in check and it when the society becomes unhealthy and we're living in a deeply unhealthy Society many different ways right now anti-Semitism is something that people reach for right it's like if you want understand like the Nazi rise to power you kind of can understand it without looking to the fact that there was you know when incredible economic depression in Germany and there was a scapegoat and if you look not to justify it but if you look throughout history right look at the Bubonic plague the Bubonic plague came because of rats to the European continent brought on ships from Crimea but people did not at the time they looked white who did they blame they blame the Jews the Jews were dying at a lesser rate than their non-jewish neighbors probably because of religious rituals that use have like washing your hands before you break bread and say a blessing dunking in the ritual bath before the Sabbath and all of these other things that probably kept them more protected against the plague than their Neighbours would rather than looking in and saying oh maybe they're doing something right and something we should mimic their neighbors said kill the juice to it literally like throw the Jews down the well and it led to you do massive programs killing Jews for an in the claim was that the Jews literally poisoned the drinking water throughout Europe so it's like it's this irrational hatred but it is so so deep because it goes back to the most important myth that Western Civilization is built on it is the Christian story Jewish people are it's it's it makes a lot of sense but the fact it still continues to accept as a foundational principle that this is baked into the world that we live in and we're never going to cure it and it's never going to go completely away the best thing that we can do is build healthy cultures that protect certain virtues like Liberty like freedom of the individual like religious liberty all the state like it's not a coincidence that has been so good for the Jews it's because so many of the ideas that protect minorities and religious minorities like Jews was for all of their fault for all of the founders false right and they had many including owning people but you know George Washington in his this letter to the first Jewish community of this country and Rhode Island and he said something that was been incredibly radical which is pathetic that it was but he says new Jews in America are not just going to be tolerated they're going to possess the same the same citizenship as everyone else. At the time was a radical departure from history in the Islamic world the Jews that always lived as dimi's a second-class citizen and in the car world it was worse and what would people forget right is like right now radical Islam when it comes to the religions is the greatest threat to Jews but for most of its history Islam was much more tolerant of Jews than Christianity was which is something that's kind of like has gotten lost to history

Wichita clay book the way it opens is so we should tell people that you are from transitioning at the temple where the Pittsburgh shooter and so that was just tell people which is like pretty much down the street from Mister Rogers like was quite literally Mister Rogers Neighborhood he's from there and was amazing place to grow up I became apartments on 1997 and it happened at tree of life I actually was a member of a different synagogue called Beth Shalom but there had been this fire until all of the kids who were becoming a bar Bat Mitzvah that year did it at tree of life and you know in the same way that people about 9/11 as a date I think about also October 27th 2018 because that morning I was in Arizona to give a speech to a group and I looked at my phone around 10 in the morning to like my family WhatsApp chat and my youngest sister had just said there's a shooter tree of life and my thought immediately went to my dad because my dad is kind of what we think of it like a promiscuous Jew like he goes to different synagogues he has membership dues at various ones he likes the sermons that one in the the scotch another and I thought there was a good possibility that he was there thank God he was not there but my mom won't back you know we're going to know people there my dad knew most of the people 11 people were killed it was the most lethal anti-semitic attack in all of American History I knew several of the people that were killed when it ended up I was supposed to actually go to Israel the next day on a reporting trip to report on this fast archaeological dig but I ended up putting that trip off doing that story later and just spending the week to see what happened what happens to a community when when something like this goes down because like we read about mass shootings all the time right so much so that they become kind of an abstraction and I you know I don't report on this stuff so I had never borne witness to what unfolds and it was it was a really transformative week and I right in the book but I feel like in retrospect I had spent my life on a kind of holiday from history both because I was you know I'm a Jew of the post-war era which is to say the part of the luckiest diaspora in all of Jewish history like the Jews since the end of World War II in this country have had it better than we've ever had it ever before and all of the kind of Mythology about what America could be the idea that it's a City on a Hill the idea that it's a New Jerusalem like I was raised on those ideas and even though anti-semitic things happen to me like speaking of Catholic School like I would wait for the school bus to my Jewish Day School with my sister and there was this Catholic school bus that would drive by and they would scream you know Pikes and dirty Jews and wear your horns and I remembered High School people someone telling me to pick up pennies like things happened but it all kind of like didn't register it really rolled off my back because I saw those vestiges from earlier and ugly or time like something that those people should be embarrassed about not something that said anything about me and you know even after Pittsburgh though I was kind of like you could still delude yourself into thinking like this is a one-off it shouldn't change you know the fundamental jewish-american assessment of our experience here and our place of belonging here but then six months later to the to the day there's another white attack on a synagogue in Poway California and then we've had you know that we've had this rash of violent anti-semitic attacks happening in the New York area which I hope will talk about but you know it's weird because I grew up in a very political family like my my dad's a little obsessed with politics were always talking about politics and and we're always talking about like Jews right like we're really proud Jewish Family and so it wasn't that I thought anti-Semitism had died like I was you know I watched anti-Semitism as it was sort of resurging and countries like France and England in Western Europe but I sort of looked at all of that with a with some level of distance and maybe even a little condescension like we're sort of inoculate it from that disease in America America singular America is sort of separate from the tragedy of so much of Jewish history I have to say that like it sounds naive but I was sort of shocked to see it that it's here to you knowing that we haven't escaped from it and that'll weakening happened a little bit before Pittsburgh which is it happened I think it was April 2017 you correct me when was the Charlottesville March member of the unite the right March shouting blood and soil like Boonton Boudin which is a Nazi slogan you will not replace us and when I heard that you like the Jews will not replace us right I heard it in like the plain meaning of that phrase like the Jews not going to take my job the Jew is not going to like take my job in the corner office or whatever but in fact it was like best replacement Siri ideology which is that brown people and black people and Muslims and immigrants are coming to replace our white civilization and the the the Jews job is basically to pass as a white person but in fact do the bidding of these people that we deem to be not pure where where's our come from that is a deeply deeply ancient anti-semitic conspiracy theory right it's the idea liquor back to New Testament let's go back to to Jesus right what happened in that story the story there is that the Jews go to Pontius Pilate and say you know like this person's unacceptable to us and in the mythology of that story the Jews get what we've been the most powerful Empire in the world the Roman Empire to do their bidding and you had this line in the Book of Matthew that is also I mean the bloodiness of this line cannot be Quantified where he says you know his blood be on us and on our children which goes you know down through the centuries to justify the killing of a view of Untold numbers of Jews but the idea of the Jew as sort of likable Wiley manipulator as a Jew as having proximity to power not being in power but being able to sort of be the Puppet Master pulling the levers of power see that play out in lots of different iterations Through Time right you see it I'm trying to think about useful examples for your listeners but but that is sort of the Trope right and it is an ancient one but it's being utilized in really new ways so it's not literally that the Jew is going to replace it is that the Jew who the Jew and away is sort of like the greatest trick the devil played mrs. the language of Eric worre who wrote this amazing essay called Skin In the game and he talks he says he's a black anti-racist activist and he talks about figuring out how anti-Semitism is kind of the linchpin of white supremacy because the Jew appears to be white but in fact he's not white I mean this is all based on this live at race is not a social the race is not a contract right it's is not white but he appears to be but in fact you loyal to these people who are coming to sell the America and so when you have someone like Congressman Steve King saying we can't replace our civilization with someone else's babies like what does that mean what is that idea it is so deeply anti-American because the idea of America right is the idea that American this is not about bloodline American this is about a shared set of values and ideas and fealty to those ideas so the idea that someone else has big what does that mean she did those ideas so the idea that someone else has been what does that mean

this amazing guy last night who we're talking about he grew up in Egypt Hussein aboubakr is his name he's really incredible grew up in Egypt and was you know he was like I was swimming and anti-Semitism I just didn't even know it wasn't normal like the mosque I went to the school I went to it was like the Jews were the supervillain and the whole message was like become a superhero and going killing to feed the juice and he would like normal normal school this is what I was taught and I never met at you in my life and he gets arrested during the Arab Spring because he starts learning Hebrew online he's really curious about who the Jews are and he gets arrested I think they're suspicious that he designed a spy anyway he end up getting Asylum he lived here in LA like a public profile as a Jew you don't want to go looking online for my name and somebody's forums it's like really skinny but you look at it now there are people who look at it for me and tell me what I need to like be aware of any like every cynic Ivory synagogue I speak to it's like people don't realize that I went to a synagogue Friday night in La like there's armed guards at every synagogue and I go to now it's like going through TSA to go to imagine that if most Americans had to do that when they went to church like we think that's insane but that is the State of Affairs for Jews and Jews that I know hide evidence of their identity everywhere they go I was a woman who wrote me who was reading my book on the subway in New York and was like I'm nervous to be seen reading a book with the title in public and like hit it but I understand why because it's it's become so regular and everyone else just living their normal life and we're like sounding the alarm here because if there's one thing that you have gotten really good at it's like we have an instinct for danger like that is something that we have cultivated over years of being discriminated against persecuted against nearly wiped off the map in Europe like we understand and we smell danger sometimes before other people do you think that they're just more Jews on the east coast and the West lava juice out here there are ya there are I don't know I don't live out here so I'm not sure I also think it's different right like there different kinds of anti-Semitism like their kind that we've talked about that comes on the far-right expresses itself one way and there's also anti-Semitism that comes smuggled into the mainstream through the political left that comes cloaked in language that is very seductive like the language of social Justice and progress and if the right claims that the Jews are you know fake white people the far-left claims that the Jews are handmaidens to white supremacy so whiteness please like a really really key role in the way that anti-Semitism functions right. That's why anti-Semitism is a shape-shifting conspiracy theory except that right and that is how under Nazism Jews are the race contaminators how under communism we are the arch capitalist right how under the idea of white supremacy we are these fake white people right we appear to be white people but we're actually doing the bidding of these groups who white supremacist view to be lesser than black people brown people Muslims immigrants and how in the far left the Jews are seen as sort of the great what is the greatest evil right now to the far-left whiteness and white privilege and Jews are seen as word of handmaidens to that why cuz of our success because many of us are of Eastern European descent 85% of American Jews are of Ashkenazi which is east of Eastern European descent so we pass as white so we have white privilege and so in the intersectional view of the world right which reverses the caste system that we've been living in until now you have some of my Jon Hamm at the very top and black transgender disabled people the very bottom will be intersectional worldview comes around in Reverse is that and says no Jon Hamm cisgendered white men like Joe Rogan or now at the very bottom and at the very top or the transgender black disabled person is aware of the Jews in that new intersectional caste system of the world we're kind of like right above Jon Hamm we're right near him because we have we enjoy all of those were two privileges that he enjoys it's a crazy thing but that's sort of where we are yes I understand what you're saying and it will I see it with people were they open the express disdain for Jewish people I've seen it from a lot of people that you would call activists you know of a very religious identity drill they believe that Israel is dominating Palestine and that Hezbollah is misunderstood and then there's there's all these different sentiments expressed openly in these left circles which is Zionism is racism which is an unbelievable thing to say because Jordy of Jews who live in Israel or Jews of North African and Middle Eastern descent they are non-white people they are Arabs they are Arab Jews and yet you have the far left basically exporting parochial domestic American racial Politics on to a foreign conflict and place that they know absolutely nothing about you know these people are delusional they think that like all of the conflict in the Middle East would be resolved if only we took this one tiny conflict between this tiny group of people and their neighbors were in fact it's like a tiny local conflict in this huge drama of the Middle East of which there are a zillion players and you know the Jews of Israel are only one tiny part of it tiny conflict between this tiny group of people and their neighbors were in fact it's like a tiny local conflict in this huge drama of the Middle East of which there are a zillion players and you know the Jews of Israel are only one tiny part of it

the Zionist thing is Define the difference between Jewish Jewish and zionists Zionist is the idea of that the Jews have a right to National self-determination the Jewish Shakin Goin the Bible right like it's all over there the whole idea of discounted discount God whatever the fact is is that the Jews are a people that were birthed sort of in this land which we now call the land of Israel and they somehow and they were expelled by the Romans around 2,000 years ago and then they came back to that land right it's it's like they defy the logic of history in doing that because by All rights they were indigenous group to that land they were kicked expelled and then we went back to thousand years later like it's a crazy extraordinary story so leave that to one part Zionism the way that I am the way that I I think it's the simplest definition is the belief in the Jewish right to self-determination and it's the Jewish Liberation movement and so in the night let's go back to like pre 1948 which is the year that the state of Israel is established and you have Jews in you know pull all of these other places debating like what is the way that we can solve our constant systemic oppression that we are constantly enduring and they're all of these different responses to that problem one argument was the Socialist argument you know if we are that you know the anti-capitalist argument if the problem is capitalism and if only we defeat capitalism anti-Semitism will go away some argued that total assimilation was the right way to solve that we just need to kind of disappear as juice that's the only way we'll be fully accepted another group you know which was not even the most popular group is this idea of we need to be able to determine our own fate and the only will never be fully accepted the only way that we can determine our own fate is if is this idea of us having our own State and our own Army where we can protect ourselves and that is ultimately the idea that sort of wins out so when you're having a debate about and when people say today there in anti-zionist a problem that is there not making that argument in 1920s Eastern Europe when the state doesn't exist it's one thing to be an anti-zionist and Siri right it's the same thing analogy I like to make his if we're a couple and we want to have a baby and we're debating should we have the baby can we afford the baby where we can send the baby to school this stuff that's a totally moral argument to make you can't make that argument of should we have the baby after the baby is born the baby is born it exists is really exist it's a place it's not idea abstraction it is a place that contains the largest Jewish community on planet Earth and so when people say that Israel doesn't have a right to exist it's like what are you talkin about it exists so what do you want what so I ask the person that makes the untidiness argument what do you imagine will happen like are you do think that you're advocating for an genocide right away or like you have to have no sense of Middle Eastern history or politics to make the argument you can be a minority in that region without protection we know what that looks like that looks like the story of these CDs it looks like the story of the Kurds the story of the zoroastrians the story frankly if Christians were going to be completely expelled from the Middle East within the next decade which is a story no one talks about so the anti-zionist existing is real existing correct Whip and made this very playing where he actually said the words the BBC has a biased towards believing that Israel has a right to exist yes yes of like normative political progressivism but if you were an 18 year old and you go onto a college campus and you're like during the orientation week or signing up for like legalizing pot club and better rights for cafeteria workers oh and by the way you know the boycott divestment sanctions movement against Israel which is an anti-zionist movement you're not an anti-semite you don't hate Jews you're just kind of like swimming along with Progressive Waters because that's how successful this movement has been but if you step back and there's a political movement gaining popularity in the west that was in fact embodied in the person of Jeremy corbyn and what became of his leave a party that believes that there's only one state in the world that doesn't have a right to exist like that's crazy like I see what you doing I know what you're doing crushed horrible things we have that horrible policy to stay America shouldn't exist and we should just meld into Canada or Mexico by the way they're saying that they're making that argument in a contacts where they are literally surrounded by neighbors who want to murder as many Jews Jewish Israelis as possible like it anymore. I feel like it's it's an argument that I really can't wrap my mind around like how people get away with making it so strange concept even say that it doesn't have the right to exist when it does exist cracked so I could see what does he say Jeremy corbyn accused of anti-Semitism of a shocking 2011 video when she questions Israel's right to exist and says the BBC is biased in favor of the Jewish State questions are right to exist I could see how someone could say that there is evidence that some Israeli Israeli soldiers have done her everything's the Palestinian people have yes of course they have yes and I could see how you could look at the where Palestine is the state of the Palestinian people and saying there has to be a better way for them it has to be a better civilization for them has to ask him prove these are human beings they have it has to be a better just a better situation I mean they're not even recognized as a true state or as a true country by a lot of people so I can see that I believe that because I believe that also because I'm a Zionist I don't want the state of Israel and the state of it supposed to be inviting Jewish ideas to be occupying and other people like that is a state like that is horrible what can be done about here's the problem right we saw what happened in the we pull out from the Gaza Strip he pulled out completely all of the settlements from the Gaza Strip there's not a single Jew left there it's completely you didn't ride and yet Hamas is still sending tons of rockets from Gaza Strip into Israel the occupation there is ended it's over and that's still going on until then you have to ask yourself like did the average Palestinian like I believe that the average Palestinian I spent time in the West Bank talking to Palestinians whose lives are in this rated by the by the Israeli occupation like they just want to live a normal life you know and yet they're being held hostage I spoke to this young mother in Gaza who fled and she said to me on the phone we're being so rude and misery to twice you know once was by Israel and now by our own leaders by Hamas right these are like kleptocratic authoritarian regimes that hate women that hate gay people I mean it's horrible like life under these regimes is absolutely horrible so the problem is Israel then sees what happens in God's and they're like okay we're in this situation where we want to be a liberal democracy and yet were you know occupying another people it's an it's a untenable situation if you want to be a liberal democracy DocuSign other people the problem is is literally geographically if they pull out of the Westbank they will likely have another situation like they had in Gaza and now all of a sudden not only do you have Rockets going to Elsa's the country in places like steroid from Gaza you have rocket capable of reaching Tel Aviv and the population centers of Israel so what do you do what do you do I don't know does anyone know I do not have a rational course now really know any I think I think one of the places we've arrived here I dislike what did Palestinian nationalism really seek Western liberals like me want will for years I told myself I think this was certainly like the view of lots of experts that would Palestinian nationalism really wanted was a Palestinian State Palestinians just want self-determination like everyone else in the world and I am absolutely on board with that the problem is is that their leaders and then you look at some of these polls in the numbers are really disturbing and they say no the goal is not having our own State alongside Israel the goal is erasing Israel the goal is for Israel not to be right and then you look at the evidence of all of these peace offers that were in Oslo in Camp David and we can go on and on and they were all rejected so it's like he's the goal your own land and having a place of your own or is the national or have we told ourselves and I include myself in this a lie about what Palestinian nationalism or at least parts of it seek and that's really really upsetting to confront so the hardcore position from people like from Hezbollah is that Israel is stolen they do not want any Jewish State between the Jordan River in the Mediterranean Sea they believe that any Jewish presence in the Middle East is heretical in support of Israel militarily politically socially I'm trying to think of the right of knowledge e here I mean they're there night like these are these are terrorists groups unless you think Tara like terrorism is rational I don't think that anything is accentuated by it like I think they would think that about Israel whether or not the US was supporting Israel when you see a situation like that the conflict as much as possible right I do not believe right now you can resolve a conflict because Israelis who have lived through times where it was normal for buses and cafes to just blow up you know the number of people I know who were touched by the second intifada like I was there during times where you know they would just blow out down the street so like they have been thoroughly disabused of the idea that I think I think that many of them given up on the idea that there could be peace in the short-term so what can you do right now to make things a little bit better you can improve the economic life for people for Palestinians living in the West Bank and you can try and shrink the conflict meaning no settlement expansion and I would say pull out of some of the set of Jewish settlements that are like you know far-flung and that the Israeli Army is sort of protecting for no reason but I think that's the best case scenario for right now what is a place a book I think it's called out and catch 67 by Mika Goodman that I would recommend people that's about how to shrink the conflict and that for now being the best case scenario but again it's like why does you have to ask yourself like why does everyone in the world obsessed about this particular conflict they're 500,000 Palestinians living in Lebanon most of whom live in refugee camps and buy official Lebanese law or barred from the lawyers from being doctors for being accountants is it portable situation do you think most people in the world know about the situation of the Palestinian immiseration in Lebanon they don't even know Palestinians are in Lebanon or in Jordan they've no idea the reason is because Palestinian lives matter when the people that are hurting them or juice they don't seem to matter when the people that are hurting them or other Arabs that's one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about this acceptance of anti-Semitism almost globally is unique it's not it's a it's a weird racism or a weird discrimination it's weird it doesn't it doesn't parallel with any other sort of discrimination people aren't sitting around thinking about how you know left-handed people are Koreans are uniquely evil like they're sitting around thinking about that with regard to the Jews but there's going to be a certain amount of population certain percentage of the population matter what that's going to hold those beliefs and needs have been passed down for thousands of years and the challenge to keep society as like healthy as possible to keep those forces at Bay really I mean it's it's really it's unbelievable the extent to which it's it's become accepted like I'll give you an example like there was some in this is the way that doesn't present itself anti-zionism I think is a modern form one of the modern forms because it what else do you call a movement that says that the Jewish state that already exists does not have a right to exist like that sounds like oh that's like a cool fiery but it's like 8 exist they live there they are surrounded by people that want to murder them so what are you suggesting that it just like goes away like the effective it would be nothing less than unbelievable Bloodshed and yet lots of people in this world are going around say Colleen sells anti-zionist do you think the seems like almost a sentiment that gets expressed that hasn't been really examined so it's full of like lunatics just like our government just like any other normal country but it's like Israel's not treated like a normal country is treated in a way like this has the Super both superpowers to like a perfect peace in the Middle East and superpowers to like like a supervillain it's both at once people hate a country that doesn't exist and they love a country that doesn't exist they project themselves and their ideas of things on to this place and it's just like a normal country doesn't seem to be a way out of this because it it's an idea the hasn't been fully explored but has been Express so frivolously almost think about think about if there was a movement in the world that suggested that you know the Japanese Warner real people and the in Japan does not have a right to exist like think about how crazy that sounds a lot of people believe it's like if you think about think about if there was a movement in the world that suggested that you know the Japanese Warner real people and the in Japan does not have a right to exist like think about how crazy that sounds normal thing that a lot of people believe

is this really strange idea that people think that Jews caused anti-Semitism right like when the evil man who walked into the Walmart in El Paso talk about a Hispanic Invasion and then went into that Walmart and killed I think upwards of twenty people no one's thought maybe he's right maybe there is a Hispanic Invasion maybe that was like somehow Justified because he saw them as insular or isolated or looking out for each other do you know what I mean like I would be a crazy idea and yet when it comes to the Jews people are like well you know they wear their funny hats well you know they seem to you do be looking out for one another and like would you think you were that kind of rationalizations have the Tree of Life horrific Massacre do you think that people are saying that like hey there were there funny how people just looked at it like this is horrible does NASCAR stand in that case yes but not in the case of what's been going on in Brooklyn there we keep things like this is the result of communal friction as if you knew disputes over zoning laws cause someone to pick up a machete the size of a broomstick walk into a rabbi's house and hack people up or mentally disabled okay with the people that show up to services on time which is a certain kind of person and you have this white supremacist who says all Jews must die he totally unequivocal about it he and he goes in and he tries to do that so you have just a case of someone who any reasonable person sees his evil which is this Neo-Nazi and people who any reasonable person see is totally innocent which is in Jews in prayer was the guy the shooter killed no he's good he's standing trial and there were in NC actually embodied this thing sorry should I stop when they have some like that do they extensively interview him and try to figure out what the fuk brought him to that mean is he schizophrenic is he a lot of the people like the guy that the Munsey case that were going to talk about the machete guy he showed signs of mental illness I think that robber hours and Pittsburgh also did but you know but then so did dylann roof the guy that killed however many people he killed at the blackshirts church in Charleston South Carolina but he was also white supremacist it's like these hateful ideologies often they drop people that are deranged or young or somehow on the fringes of society with the guy in Pittsburgh he was deep into this replacement Siri ideology the reason that he selected tree of life is a synagogue is because tree-of-life the previous weekend had participated in this program called National Refugee Shabbat or Sabbath it was celebrating the idea of welcoming The Stranger which is a fundamental Jewish value do not oppress The Stranger because you were strangers in the land of Egypt and he said specifically that you know how is the group that with organizing this National Refugee Shabbat it stands for Hebrew immigrant Aid Society it started in the 1800 as a way of resettling Eastern European Jews were pogroms in Eastern Europe now works to resettle refugees including Jews all over the world and he specifically selected tree of life because of that because he said the Jews are bringing in the dirty immigrants into the society so he was like kind of the perfect embodiment of white supremacist replacement Siri ideas in Brooklyn it's much harder cases because it's much harder for people to talk about because of how do you talk about the fact that in many of these cases in a lot of them have been caught CCTV you know that it's a young black man attacking Hasidic guy walking down the street and who's visibly Jewish it's much harder to talk about when someone is someone who we talked about as being rightly as being a from a group that is himself victimized a poor black kid in Brooklyn is then going on to victimize another minority group it's just much harder when the attacker is not a white supremacist to talk about it one is a strange one but in some ways I think it's easier for ignorant people to look at them as the other because the way they clearly distinctly dress they dress so much different it's almost like if he had Amish people move in and they stuck to themselves they lived in one sort of community I think they would probably experience a similar level of hatred but then you add into it the sort of acceptance of anti-Semitism in a lot of communities it's like it's ramped up Steven in Crown Heights in Boro Park than before Caribbean's before lots of other communities then this knowledge like themselves expressions of the anti-semetic idea and people don't even realize it but I think there's also a genuine jealousy in the accomplishments and achievements of Jewish people you know I mean if you look at Nobel Prize winners from from Europe in particular I mean how many are European Jews it's f****** stunning you know it's stunning when you look at the amount of lawyers me just joke around about my Jewish lawyer you know I mean it's like a standard thing you think of doctors and how many successful and educated people are Jewish and that's one of things you actually touch it touch on in in your book you you were talking about I mean it's how people become in this country and there's got to be some sort of a resentment for that as well especially by again we're talking about mentally deranged people people with like severe some of them are mentally deranged but some of them are young some of them are that's it's really difficult about Sanibel is mentally ill by all accounts but he Googled you know like why did Hitler hate the Jews and he Googled various synagogues remember last time I was on there were those two or three black men who were members of this sect the Black Hebrew Israelites to Hebrew Israelites and everyone kind of laughed them off its like haha they're just this obnoxious weird stuff their ideology right the idea that the Jews are not the real Jews that were Pretenders to the face that the Jews are behind the slave trade that the Jews are subhuman Vermin that was the ideology that informed this recent attack in Jersey City I don't know if you followed that one that was the one where it was a couple and they were driving or they they wanted to Target police officers in Jews and they target is officers and yes they hated pigs and they hated Jews that's what they do there were diary entries in Google searches and think I mean sounds horrible to say but they I went the next day to Jersey City to see to see the aftermath of it and they had targeted specifically this Kosher grocery store ended up killing icing for people but literally the right above the grocery store to the left at the grocery store and then a synagogue in above the synagogue is a school where there were like Fifty young children thank God they were murdered then they fight comes to light if you don't feel like a week ago that they had a bomb in the U-Haul that had the range of five football fields that they wanted to deploy and everyone was laughing hahaha like look at these crazy people that believe this crazy ideology will this crazy ideology is moving people to do very very violent things and their things and things that haven't even made the news you know like if we believe this idea right that the Brooklyn is the result of communal friction how does that explain my friends father-in-law who's walking on the Upper East Side wearing a yamaka on his head and get the s*** kicked out of him how does that explain my friend from who is a progressive Jew where is a rainbow yarmulke is on the subway and he has he's had several interactions with this group who scream and him hold one of them filled up a picture of Louis Farrakhan saying you're not a real Jew you're a f***** all of you is horrible thing this is like creeping everywhere at a friend on the Lower East Side that was visibly Jewish not wearing a black hat wearing a yarmulke but look like you were me got punched this was like 2 years ago I hate that it's like being Unleashed and that's the thing that's most disturbing like if you look at the Anti-Defamation League statistics only a small purse of hate crimes committed against Jews something like 15% last year were committed by white supremacist they're among the most violent in the most visible but who's the rest of them that's actually more alarming to me the fact that it's like coming from all of these different directions and how do you contain it once it's been Unleashed crimes committed against you something like 15% last year were committed by white supremacist they're among the most violent in the most visible but who's the rest of them that's actually more alarming to me the fact that it's like coming from all of these different directions and how do you contain it once it's been Unleashed

Redbook what was what was your goal what was when you weigh sat down and decided you're going to write this book how to fight anti-Semitism what what were you thinking the first of all I wrote I supposed to write another book that I'm still on the hook for I went and bagpipe through this because after Pittsburgh I just kind of couldn't stop seeing it everywhere I looked and honestly like yeah I think of Pittsburgh hadn't happened I wouldn't have written this first but I just became so passionate about it so passionate about here so I think maybe the shortest answer for this when we talk about anti-Semitism leaving you and I like we think about Jews the Jews on the streets of Brooklyn or in Pittsburgh or in that synagogue in California as being the victims of it and they are but the real bigger victim of it is the surrounding Society like when anti-Semitism shows itself in a culture it means what culture is extremely broken or in some stage of death and the reason that I think it's so important and the reason I ultimately wrote the book as I want people to understand that the fact that anti-Semitism is rising in America says nothing about Jews it says everything about America and where we are right now like we don't want to be, please where anti-Semitism is normalized because guess what societies were anti-Semitism become normalized societies that no longer exist on the face of the Earth I'd like how you described in your book as a symptom like that we all have certain bacteria will have certain viruses but our immune system keeps them at bay windows viruses show themselves it's a it's a sign that the immune system is weak that the body itself is weak how do we rebuild back our immune system and one of the reasons that I'm alarmed by I completely understand the populist moment but I'm also scared of it because populism often does not end well for juice or for the political Center and I think wanted one of the reasons that we need to like how do we rebuild our immune system like those are the sort of things that I suggest in the last chapter of the book and I think I do I just hope we can do them because I'm really really alarm that we're living in America in 2020 where people I know you know who are Jewish star like put it inside their shirt when they walk down the street that's crazy like that's crazy to me that's normal there you know a lot of juice I know we're taking shooting lessons I just had a guy reach out to me that would like I read your book I read your speeches I think you're great but none of them are going to help you if someone attacks you on the street let me teach you like Krav Maga self-defense going to do it at New York shooting I hate it I had to take I hate like the few times that I've gone Shootin I hate it I really do

I think one of the things this alarming about our politics right now is like things that were just regarded up until like 5 years ago as the kind of Lunatic Fringe have made their way into mainstream politics Steve Bannon Breitbart as the platform of the alt right and then she been it was sitting down the hall from the president of the United States the alt-right was like young Republicans that were a little different you know I don't know what it is no no no not now for sure but I mean in the perceptions will be all right in the beginning was like what I thought Milo yiannopoulos was when he first burst onto the scene sort of like you know a guy who's like joking about you no sags and kikes you're still saying the thing he's gay and he's Jewish and so the idea was that he could get away with these things provocateur was the word I was looking for this is essentially what he's doing and he's using that to build social currency right that social currencies developing this large group of people that follow him and talk to him and he thinks that there's some Merit to his ideas so he finds some sort of justification for having these provocative conversations in this stance where you saying these things and and a big proponent of free speech and all these things are happening all the same time that's what I thought the alt-right was initially what I thought the alt-right was initially was people that wanted a new younger more more current take on what Republican is and then it became racist and then it became you know all the things that we think of it now in terms of like public perception right now who even says they're alright mean it's almost like such a pejorative like the label has become so toxic I don't misunderstand The Fading of the label for the power of the movement it's just become kind of more normal Republican out alt right ideas have been subsumed by the Trump is Republican party to some extent look like the idea that some Americans are less American than others that is certainly an old right idea that I think it's extremely dangerous when you saw it when he was he was a great example when Trump went after the squad okay as I remember when he said that they should go back to the totally broken crime-infested places that they came from hahaha America one is a naturalized US citizen the idea there right as I heard it and maybe I'm hearing something you're not that some Americans because of their skin color or their ideas sort of have provisional belonging here for me is a very very more than a dog whistle something that is deeply on American and deeply bigoted if he had said that about one person who would come here from somewhere else it was awful and was criticizing America then there would be no more valid and that would be like it euliano Mars not from America initially and I can't stand her ideas which is a naturalized citizen who is sworn to uphold the values of the Constitution that sucks is the response to someone criticizing the way things are here is pretty ridiculous. State citizen you just think that this place should be bad yes then you can just agree with her ideas but that that concept right that you're not entirely of a place that is something that has been used against Jews forever the idea that you're not fully araquey because you're Jewish or you're not fully American because you're Jewish or you're not fully French because you're Jewish like the idea of provisional belonging is something that is that I'm extremely sensitive to toxic tribalism that's attached to the concept the alt-right ideas look at who's Steve Bannon has made common cause with right people like Nigel farage people like Marine Le Pen I mean there was a really good documentary about Steve Bannon where he's meeting with people who really are not just like normal conservative deeply xenophobic politician in France whose father was profoundly anti-semitic she claims that he's that she's not but she's someone that you know you say her name in any Jewish community and National front sounds like Stormfront it's really not a political party since 2011 recent eruption 2017 spin the member of the national doesn't say what she does then say mecro anyway so back to her and I don't know why I see ideas getting expressed like there are there are people that Tucker Carlson has had on his show who are like a valid white nationalist recently can you Google that Jamie there was a guy that he had on the other day or even even Beast whistles right of like there's a way to criticize did you find it sorry people argued against their ideas Rodger Stone Rodger Stone to white nationalist now his links to White nationalism Peter d'abrosca I don't know the Trump is called well a big one things the Republican party has done that's wise if you want to keep a solidified team is that they haven't come out against him and they've supported him and there's very little dissent and this is this is a good idea if you want your team to win right and there was a lot of people who are kind of never trumper's or softener stance once they realize the power of his presidency that he's a real sometimes sometimes trumper's yeah yeah I'm alarmed I'm alarmed by people I'm alarmed whenever there's not worth his outward has an outward lack of compassion and when there is an outward to stain for the other because essentially this country is all the other the whole thing that's all we have is the other man that's that's the whole thing Trump is just beyond the sort of like he said various things that are like you speak speaking to a Jewish group and he talked about your prime minister I mean you said so many things that are ridiculous but the big big thing that he's guilty of is he is like dismantled the guardrails of the keep Society decent and civil and normal and like once you dismantle those things like it's a very easy to reverse not very easy but you can reverse policies with much harder to reverse is a culture and he has just been gleefully making war on what I think of is very very important cultural norms like not attacking the weakest people in our culture like not attacking gold star families like I mean he is attacked he's denigrated like the most heroic and the weakest people that are cultured every possible turn I just kind of went away. That was so I remember that November Wiki people forget this when he said about Judge Alonzo curiel was born in this country that he couldn't give a fair hearing to Trump University because he was born in Mexico American yes Royal Republic and because look at all the great things he's done for Israel if you're loyal Judah Israel you would vote Republican who don't vote for him or just the way I mean like to think about it indiana-born federal judge who President Donald Trump wants it could not be impartial because he was Mexican cleared a major obstacle standing in the way of Trumps long-promised border wall with Mexico ideas despicable reinforces his tribe right and that's one thing that Donald Trump has clearly done is calculated cultivate rather a tribe you know he is a tribe it mean to have a f****** live a hat right they have a slogan and it's a weird slogan because it seemed so positive makeamericagreatagain that seems positive but it's not like if you if you like people punch you if you have that hat on so so crazy we've gotten to a point society that something that's a positive statement like make America great again is so polarizing that people will be violent towards you and feel like they need to feel like they need a lot like you're the enemy

when you think about the social media sites gab was one where this guy who shot up the tree of life was a member of and is is this like I'm not a proponent of censorship but do people do think they get radicalized in these when you get to a forum where there's no restrictions whatsoever on language or geology or behavior you can say whatever you want as long as it's long as you're not saying something you ate. I mean gab has rules like you can't do things that are illegal you can't threaten someone you can't put up their address but you could say a lot of really f***** up s*** and they're not going to deny going to police you do you think that these places that do allow free speech that there's a catch-22 to it in some ways it's great to build Express Yourself freely but another way you can get radicalized and they can they can it can lead to a lot of people forming these groups were they support each other in these f*****-up ideas I feel so strongly about keeping the spectrum of acceptable opinion so like as wide as possible is because I think that the narrow where it shrinks like we're talking about normal ideas being closeted then people go into these underground layers online and they become flies right because they're like that the elites are in the mainstream Media or whoever they're not telling the truth or lying to me so there's this secret world and his secret world has all of these actually bigoted ideas dinner and I mean so do I think that it is a catch-22 yeah yes I mean the whole thing about the world we're living in is that you no longer have to like find a KKK meeting you don't have to find a jihadist preacher you don't have to fight you go down the line just have to find a Reddit chat or Fortune chat or something on gab.com and you find your little online Village like it no longer requires a real person or real interaction and there's no Stakes cuz there's no shame because you can just be totally Anonymous in these forums is supercharging this in a way that like we can't even grasp and it's very hard for those of us like me and you want to protect free speech and Liberty to think about how to deal with it how do you deal with that like when you have something like the Christ Church shooter who was live streaming this and making references to know what what did what did PewDiePie as well and murdering at the same time and what is the I mean there's no in my eyes there's no clear solution to that I don't want to restrict free speech I certainly don't want you don't want to cause people to livestream on a platform to go and kill people right when the guys never killed anybody before and then all sudden he's got this camera on any in the synagogue and he starts shooting what how do you how do we manage that mean what what do we do what do we do in that certain there's no in my mind there's no clear answer here there's not a clear answer but I think that looks idea that a private company should be obligated to someone killing someone or let's even go like take it less taste than that called use kikes why should why should a private company say yes to that it's degrading what the platform is that makes sense that makes sense the question is we're does that line get drawn now you know the real problem means there's people that get kicked off of certain social media sites for just not representing whoa culturally for instance Meghan Markle Murphy Megan Murphy that woman who got kicked off of Twitter because she said a man is never a woman and she got kicked off for Life went when the spectrum of what is reasonable becomes so narrow people radicalized and then go to these bigoted ideas and immigration and it's like the conversation about immigration is I think very very limited in what people say and you know what they what would is acceptable like it's like open Borders or xenophobia about it again and again and again also should be possible for us to keep gang members in cartel members from crossing the border freely and shooting people and killing people and selling drugs in our communities and all the things that we were scared of when it comes to the open border policy idea the the thing about the the social-media thing and in a lot of ways it's this new experiment right there's something that we've never had before like if you like you're saying about a KKK meeting you used to have to go to one right and now you don't know you just have to go to Stormfront whatever website you can find that supports your ideas and this is this is a new challenge and it's a new challenge that has really been mapped out nor has it been I don't know if it's been rationally dissected in terms of like if we do this this could happen if we don't do this this could happen which is is a or b better what how do we stop a or at Warby from happening how do we somehow or another educate and improved how do we reach out these people that are going to get radicalized and offer them some sort of a positive Community as as as possible alternative because this is what a lot of this stuff is a lot of people to get radicalized 1 things that happens is you don't have anyone that cares about you or support you but you find people that are very strongly believe in an idea they believe in an idea and awful idea so much so that they're willing to kill people for that idea and then you find a bunch of them and then they reinforce others beliefs totaling with these positive affirmations and essentially their signaling to them their virtue signaling to these horrible people that they also agree with a lot of these ideas and then you go out and you do something you act like the guy in Charlottesville that ran over that girl this these these horrific acts are almost there encouraged and supported by these tight-knit groups of people that all they're all they're all f***** up and f***** up people finder and f***** up people find each other and hurt people hurt people right so they fine this category of people is this group of people whether it's online or whether they actually have to go to a KKK mean and they find support this is a group that somehow another gets them

it had the demons you know I'm saying and what he's fun to look at cuz you seem in the club and she he see some girls in there anything better than p**** is keeping it for himself take this with the heavyweight belt God damn how big was the lion it was big he was wrestling with a lion plays Willimantic what takes him in the back that comes back out now that you know what I'm never going to be in around another man in life that's going to do that now discussing if he doesn't pay for these cars I'm going to sell these cars to somebody and get some horses if I said what you need a horse to Decatur Washington for card cuz I have a lot of clothes I probably get some more something of myself why that would be cool right after he had some cousins I came home after waiting for me so you raise them as cups yes that's what that's how you were cuz I would see footage of you like f****** smacking him around and jumping on one of your tires and I was like holy that's you at Peak crazy yeah and saying that I was going through my mind my trainer week left Canada and we drove all the way up there and while we're up there a razor ruddock was up there and they said raise really came to inspire with us and said okay I'll spar with you I'm here for four days so first time Tyson actually met me you know he was nice guy really nice guy 2 minutes room show me some old flicks I've never seen before of old-time Fighters would tell me about each fighter it like he studied them and then you know is where he got his old spot is his style of fighting from and first day in the first day in the gym bell went he came across and he was trying to kill me I can know I did my Muhammad Ali thing obviously stayed away from his power but the first day was really hectic and then the second day was like taking that got better as it went along in the last day is I got actually the better of him the last day and I remember custom Otis and Mike don't you do that and that always echoed in my mind that we we ever fight will we ever fight the Custom Auto said that we're going to fight and it did happen wow that is crazy man God that's crazy big neck 12 years old nobody's everything for 12 years old 05 he bit a chunk out of your f****** ear what what were you thinking of that time by Newburgh what about telling me to watch out I'm not watch out for who I looked up at Mike and had the dick Balco and he I just hit a big Bearskin coat so we get on the elevator together and we come down with the door open everybody was shocked so they went shop women while we wasn't fight right it's just you two in the elevator other people drunk you work out anymore away from that stuff and they don't even like what if you like go jogging can you go jogging my treadmill work install cat treadmill that's it but but if I start to think that I'm special I get a Glam to Glam of that thing for hate I don't want nothing to do that if you are standing for that heavy bag and you start rattling off combinations and people you start thinking like oh s*** I'm actually Mike Tyson like I was that guy I am that guy who went through that I am the youngest heavyweight champion of all time I am that guy to destroy Tyrell Biggs I am that guy that knocked out Larry Holmes about that guy so it's so strange to hang out and talk to him like party theme so iconic that whenever you're around him part just like 10% of you that has to go holyshit it's Mike Tyson no matter what else you're saying 10% of your brain is going holyshit That's Mike Tyson so it's so strange to hang out and talk to him like party theme so iconic that whenever you're around him part just like 10% of you that has to go holyshit it's Mike Tyson no matter what else you're saying 10% of your brain is going holyshit That's Mike Tyson

Rampage of people doing okay sign course including me back on or what how do you rings and the other thing is we're at a point now where it's more easy to give the finger to someone meant to say okay how do you do you have to use a roach clip from now it's that boy by the roach clip industry she was drunk and I was just trying to avoid her I was trying to avoid her if she's trying to avoid her and she goes to me trying to recalibrate our reality do to your circumstances and your story being paradigm-shifting I'm not that f***** up that I'm giving you a shout-out I love you we love each other I am the Scorpion you are the frogs have ship goes down have you ever watched a rodeo and felt sorry for the Bulls originally taurine was extracted that way but it is an ingredient in bull semen so the taurine in Red Bull probably doesn't come from bull semen but taurine is in bull semen so Hitler was getting his touring right from the tap the best way is to speak upon its Beginnings from the top under the expression is 700 choking on Jerry's flavor Saver in that giant bull dick is pummeling the back of his throat and feels it up that when he comes out of his nose cuz a lot of the jizz comes out of his nose that's just enough mustache to get text messages that's why he had that mustache lot of people don't know all these technological innovators they all see the same end the game but isn't an entirely possible I mean like it's entirely possible I think it's entirely possible the clintons are murderers I think it's entirely possible and people like John Anthony West in yourself and some other folks like Graham Hancock are proposing that it's entirely possible that there were many different errors of construction in Egypt it's entirely possible highly possible the Lee Harvey Oswald why you can't be good at everything that's a fact it's not possible you had a magic wand and someone said you could do whatever you want to fix this what would you do you know like if you were the king of the world said what we going to do and let's say you become president become president documentary of fasting documentary this stuff is so unbelievably fascinating it's like I look at things are fascinating to me absolutely fascinating Roosevelt wolves I'm so fascinated by animals so fascinated that is a fascinating book Alaska is a fascinating place one world that's dead and dying or it's open to Willis triendl I hold on the sky sounds like me and it produces something 11 hydroxy metabolite smell is a weird thing and we can take him to the hole in our face and what I say is the fart Theory and the fart theory is if someone farted and you couldn't smell it you have no idea there something around you is totally completely invisible that's called the fart principal I have no understanding of how that principle could relate to this but I'm all ears this is why this is a bad example does a bad example but it's not a bad one if you fart and you didn't have a nose no one would know if we didn't have a sense of smell when you have a sense of smell we can still get along in the dimensions are multiple things that we I'm perceived that we haven't we don't have the census for coolest thing like right up like a fist from your face that we go I always do battle ropes to take a look at how to get the comics where they go when they get that's account that microphone Universal basic income this is what this is all about yes that's what my campaign for president is all about not joking it sounds ridiculous because people associate psychedelics with with non realistic things with hallucinations they they they they they don't look at it the way I look at it oh well a good friend of mine had suggested to go and and I'd mention your name in there like that show just never done before my first drink and I'm thinking what the hell I'm all the way in the Amazon Ayahuasca if you've done that have you ever done DMT does the experience mirror taking synthetic 5 Meo DMT severe right psychedelic experiences I had a crazy dream last night that was I had DMT trip in my dream so if you have just fed DMT synthesized to sheep it wouldn't be toxic what I'm going to tell you about is your brain produces a chemical while you're sleeping listen to burning bush to The Acacia Bush and the acacia tree which is Rich and DMT you know once I didn't want to do it again in the end it again I don't touch the child Aragon it's not I've seen everything we all about Jerry Epstein okay and that I don't know about your EIC and what is that and so they start bringing up lawsuits against Donald Trump with Jane does claiming he'd been with that Steve has no proof in the logs that make you log in and the idea was that they're all the elites would go there and they would engage in these occult rituals in America worshipping moloch the owl God this is there's a photo of a therapy this is real and they really do have a giant owl and they really do burn some sort of a sacrifice in front of this owl this is real like this isn't like you hear things like that like what that's nonsense right you see that video you have to go okay what is this in the newspaper have an effect on mental behavior when transmitting at the proper frequency what is this article Jamie American Technology review estimated about 20 pregnancies of pig human or sheep human chimeras have been established during the last 12 months in the US guarantees right. Talk to hundreds of people now not on air time to make a film on this to take an Ayahuasca and DMT I'm not taking it and obvious reasons and and it's unbelievable because I needed a hundred percent in San Francisco is the main project site literally have an alien base and they are literally communicating and they got like an astronaut level people taking super four levels of rods and going into meetings with these things and making Intergalactic deals on Rick and Andrew have together developed a technology for releasing DMT into human Volunteers in a very slow drip that will keep them in the DMT state if they wish for hours on end and the intention the intention is to use this technology to explore and map the DMT realm there was the there was a lot of f****** Nazi scientist product on YouTube it says the Operation Paperclip was anywhere from like 1200 to 1500 science. The total number of admitted Congressional hearings in the 1970s technology operations all of that was to beat back the Russians or those who come over from the other side who we learn from and they just disappear into em and they disappear as one of the cia's version of Witness Protection they already have the CIA that was OSS okay that's all on record hermaphrodite I need to know I much prefer yours is to what the f*** is this Jamie the Korean grandmother to sell sex how do you pull these up so quick and what what do you have on Tab how strange is it that we put a monetary value on actual life itself wow most wins car now holyshit Jamie pull up video up pull it up Jimmy said he hasn't looked that s*** up Jamie

did you ever light up someone with that particular care of me when I was 19 from making a guy flying through the air are you serious oh my God make your knee up you ever see it's not bad but you have a inherent flaw in your Technique that probably was never never explain to you for $49. even in the air Chuck Norris just blushing I would just stare at their asses and then daddy's little microphones right so I don't know but fast it was like as Five Guys for Five Guys and they start fighting and a guy that I knocked constantly because you will wake up right and everything went good and went good and but then I start realizing wait a minute CIB business right behind me the whole police force in jail I'm drunk I'm having a lot of fun she's know your dad would do Swedish blonde girls that I said I didn't don't worry about it I mean if I'm drunk and I don't care about anything especially not that I Just Want to Have Fun show after 2 days they allow me to get my first phone call and I'm calling my wife and she's freaking out at your honey you got to be okay relax relax does that mean every time he looks and he goes come out rude stop saying that cuz my hopeful name is qamardeen tomorrow Dean camarda he's like I'm not going to say that like to Marty and Kim are going to call you Marty so these fans fans has been is a representative of the trolls like before like 10 a.m. in the morning but I don't like to shoot man before my alarm goes off I'm already awake I want to break his f****** face man I want to break his f****** rib cage and I don't want to knock him out early on I don't I just want to hurt towards you that guy man if I get the chance to torture him 14 minutes and 50 seconds before I stopped them that's what I'm going to do man you know I just I don't like to dude at all met him a long time ago he's a f****** prick man I don't like a man does not Jen and me just like he's one of them come to play where you were with Hicks and Gracie up cuz when I was in college but because my interest in that for years Rio Rio and I've been working on the script of that movie and stuff and I was like I was really interested in this idea that Banner is is desperate for control right that he desperately desperately needs to control his heart rate his breathing that it's a massive liability in his mind if he can't control his emotions and his adrenaline and I was like well who in the world at 9 in the videos I never met him or any of them but I'd seen the videos of enjoying the amazing stuff with his stomach breathing fire that's a very special think we sometimes sleep to people's fingers in and the priorities in the daily you know in the repayments and roll where I feel like if you tell me in the past what's the courage what's the opposite of Courage I want to say cowardness because either you tough enough to challenge into fight or juice or in the new car and then you chicken out so that's in the past was like did the opposite of Courage is very hard to measure this in those days and I believe the opposite of college today is Conformity you know it's people get confirm or I don't like my wife the way I used to like but I'm never going to divorce because I'm afraid to lose my house or the situation so established so I'm going to keep so I don't like this job but I'm going to keep here because better than sew in going to compromise juice to maintain because you're afraid to risk let's keep you like one step behind from you follow your heart for vision you show 18 years old because if you willing to sacrifice if you willing Chuchu broke new new challenges if you willing to you in stage of lightness and and excitement and unpredictability make you feel like you in heaven or I write a write letters to everyone that's close to me before he funny three months and I'm training for a fight I'm literally training not to die and if you knew there's a possibly you're going to die and destruction are a most people avoid it but we have to do we have I have to walk there in my own will and the stress level for me I mean I wish I could just take it later and say the sport I mean every time I fart after I fart when I lose I always feel like s*** nice over I'm alive cuz I was willing to die in the fight you know you know you are and recover from it and then put yourself back and right right yeah yeah there's no there's no justifying that other than I was in the sport that that I really wanted to to be in and stay in and I've been after the disease I want to go back to and that was the that was the landscape until you viewed your thought okay this is not ideal you ask a question what am I really knowing my health history right with cancer with all the all that I went through is going back to my Sport and taking EPO a risk to that to that me not to my to my disease or to my health and I and the answer to that obviously was know without a shadow of a doubt none whatsoever death is not the end don't think so I know I know so how do you know they're being dead right yes I've been bad but what about that experience cemented in your head when I would like I said it was the most peaceful and I don't feel like there's a most peace most restful most I was I woke graphing I was overjoyed. Think about it that would be the closest hospital was Cedar-Sinai and then it was you know also my Irish luck that the best heart surgeon in the world who is dr. William trento with who is chief of heart surgery over there I think maybe even evolved surgery saw my case and told somebody else you can't do that I have to do that and what I have in there now is the st. Jude's heart valve it's a titanium heart valve I got sick like watch man get real sensitive on this mug right here oh my God my brother is haunted by it and my father wasn't like a but I wouldn't say he was a Butch man or strong everyone the soft men money stretch the imagination and I never heard him get real loud or anything like that on the notion of my father dying streaming changed my life cuz I was like even a good man in this world you play the game be played straight play by the rules you do everything you're supposed to even die screaming at that point I was like there's no point in not trying to accomplish every stupid f****** dream about a rules you do everything you're supposed to you're going to die screaming at that point I was like there's no point in not trying to accomplish every stupid f****** dream I've got Chase it all down chasing whimzees what I've been doing for the last few years but Chase it all and do it all cuz we're all going to die screaming

I was 13-14 I looked through that I'd see you in the winter with pants aren't you look delicious and finally summer f****** 79 I'm getting off locked up with some friends of mine that we drinking f****** nips we snorted some angel dust and we'll listen to Led Zeppelin II if you going to f*** anybody Led Zeppelin II is the album to get you on that starts off at whole lot of love. Just get your hips moving and then it goes until 11 song juice runs down my leg I'm like that's it that uses running down my legs and my mother was a flower checks yet flowers everywhere I put on like a shirt I swear to God it had to be about that because she would walk the dog at night but the husband 15 the dog would sleep that the husband was the last she would put them down and you know they were kind of blind French you know that I love defense Dixie Deuce Daisy shirt and I remember being on that angel does hiding in the weeds like f****** like f*** it in there with the flowers at flowers for I was with bringing flowers but my plan was to attack like this Jumper in the thing throw it down and give her the flowers like I wanted to marry her like that sell f***** up I owe anyone an angel dust and I was on Angel this is what I would THC Crystal call it what you want it's animal tranquilizer no matter how you look at it and I remember that I ran up on her and she turned she could Koko what's going on and I just stopped going to go Friday I'm in Love with You leave and she's looking at me like like a lot like I was retarded first thought you were going to be like this kid is f****** snap and she goes you've been drinking and I still love you take the flowers and she was I'll tell you what if I divorce my husband consider it and I was like okay I can live with that can I give you a kiss and I kissed her on the cheek and I can feel the heat going up my head and finally isn't went to turn away I looked at her legs are the juiciest I hope I touch your thigh as you guys go ahead and Joe Rogan ditech like tiny cat and my dick just exploded sperm I ran away like Steven Seagal let me see Steven Seagal running runs like a plug terrifying experiences in China what what are your precautions are you allowed to bring bear spray so we had an F1 we had a whistle or Jesus or whistle whistle yeah so they said that the boat the biggest attacks happen from wet Tibetans out forming doing a business in the mountains they are in the forest and they surprised they come up the top of the hill Virgin America make yourself away while we make the bad weather that you'll let your present you're normally they would be but there was a local that told me that so they have these big to Bessemer Alameda he wasn't living in this girl which is like a white felt 10 like he was living in a concrete her to Courtyard with offense defense was open just outside the fences Tibetan Mastiff chained up and he said that this bad wasn't fazed about me to buy most of it was straight past it into the courtyard with scratching is still do whilst he was hiding in one of these empty covers Fox man there monsters in a real thing grizzly bears and brown bears weren't real and then there were in a movie you'd be like what in the world if you know they're there would you going to want to walk for that long yet their country where is your heart and my heart is a I get to I get to be black for a summer in my mind so there's something in it for me the other thing is I get to hold up to Nature the insane self-involved hypocrisy of artists and what they think they're allowed to do on occasion just my opinion and also been who is a masterful artist and director probably the closest thing to a Charlie Chaplin that I've you might have the time he writes he directs he acts he if you would seen him when he was directing this movie you would have been like I'm watching David Lee and I'm watching Chaplin I'm watching Coppola he he knew exactly what the vision for this was he executed it it was impossible to not have it be an offencive nightmare of a movie and 90% of my black friends are like do that's great you know I can't disagree with them but I know where my heart was and I think that it's never an excuse to do something that is out of place and not if it's time but to me it was just putting a it was a blasting cap on and by the way I think White Chicks came out pretty soon after that as I got love that I like that was great can we see that unless things change it seems like no one can really I don't think you could do breakfast anymore I mean we almost lost the prime minister of Canada cuz he did brownface he had pretended to be Saudi Arabian Arabian Nights in high school or something like that it's it's an interesting and necessary meditation on where is the pendulum why is the pendulum right where is the pendulum a little into what could be perceived as as heart in the right place openness of its time but again I mean you know there's a morality Clause here on this planet and it's a big price to pay and I think having a moral psychology is his job one so sometimes you just got to go yeah you know I act up again not in my defense but tropical there was about how wrong that is so I take exception it was turd the media and the DNC got together and they're like hey let's do this cuz of coordinated doesn't come out of nowhere what what they're doing is they're making themselves less and less relevant and they're making guys like you and independent more and more relevant and more and more trustworthy and that's why they keep going to the catnip of Russia gate or wheat or whatever impeachment called to the thing is that a guy has an $83,000 job on a board in a country his dad just helped overthrow the f****** crazy get the billion-dollar right what do you know they fired the guy and that guy did say later that guy who got fired today I got fired because I was investigating originally said that in a court document so believe me why didn't they why didn't they impeach Trump on the emoluments Clause why didn't they do that why did they do it on this position in government it's the best so many people are saying that people are saying what's wrong with the woman using her degree she has three degrees I wonder how she was at 4 able to afford those three degrees I wonder if he overcame all those obstacles did she die Annabelle Street Banks that's not me saying that that's Dylan ratigan award-winning Bloomberg reporter says that how they pay him off well he has a I don't know if you noticed he just bought a house and Martha's Vineyard from the guy who owns the Celtic but he's healthy as a 40 has 49 Acres got a lot of money than Kevin Hart I mean there's some people I thought were never Bill Cosby I'm going to say so it was on that list I never liked him I didn't know it was one of those things where if you would said any of this that you're saying 10 years ago people have been furious at you well somebody told me he was a creep back in 1983 and 94 and as a person that makes sense I had heard from people on the set of news radio that he drugged girls it was like one of those weird things you heard as a room like why does he do drunk girls like Bill Cosby man that's obviously a sick kinky head but I also know a guy with a promoter and and told incredibly ridiculous stories about things that Bill Cosby did that were not sexual but just informed me that what his Kink is is part of a much larger sickness about control and making people do weird things because he can let me tell you what I heard when you tell me what you heard I heard you make people watch him eat Curry shoes make the whole staff come into his dresser and watch him eat I hadn't heard that exactly but it's exactly in line with what I heard that he would do things like make you what was one of them like you would order food and then he would say you know scoop out the the do we part of the hamburger bun after you wash your hands and put it back on the hamburger or once he asked them to send him the soap that he hadn't finished using in the dressing room like kolenda to him send it to crazy crazy s*** they like it that like something different there their tired of these people that sound like politicians you know you hear a person Elizabeth Warren hear them talk and you feel the bull coming out of their mouth while they're talking you know that they're playing a role you know the deal with Trump he might be arrogant he might be crazy he might be ridiculous but that's him that's that guy I bet if you'd be around him all day long he's like that and that's that's the thing that one of the things that people like about him he's like that all the time but that's who he is but he's not but he doesn't need the b******* he's Donald Trump he's a f****** multi-billionaire who is now the president of the United States so it's like he doesn't feel the need to put on an act for anybody so when he comes out and says he died like a dog like that's that's how he would talk yeah I know I think the consistency I think you're right there is there's an element of like I'm tired I'm tired of the b******* I'm going to see what you're saying but I guess what I think Dennis and what are the chances that you get to 21 Warren 2020 look at that but we get down in November the election and people just exhausted by it so they wanted something different now they've had it are they going to get to this point November and get ready to vote I can't take another four years of it even though it's entertaining I'm exhausted people don't like change they get scared of change and if things are going well economically and if you know if it turns out that this thing with Iran doesn't turn into anything disastrous by the time November rolls around I think is going to win in a landslide I really I don't CMS Bernie Sanders and Tulsi gabbard get together and then everybody goes you know what that would work like this is a this is a real combination of people that I could I could give on something like that where there's like some overwhelming can lie but I don't see that then they seem to be pushing for Elizabeth Warren I don't see that she was a republican most of her career and then she became a Democrat like when she was in her late forties and maybe it's just me but the but I don't see policy message that I don't see that happening 444 her this go around maybe maybe it'll change maybe you need I don't know but problem is I feel like these people just want to be president I feel like it's a self-aggrandizement thing they just want to be president I did you get all your dad about anybody in politics or that person started out by being head of the Republican or Democratic Club in high school and that's all I want to do the nearest State Senator and then text now who started out by being head of the Republican or Democratic Club in high school and that's all I want to do the nearest State Senator and then I'm going to run for Congress

the way I was fat my one of my boys was home sick the other day from school the middle boy Sluggo and so we're sitting on the sofa and said you know like we were sheep and we've bought the Disney plus hanging and Peter Pan the original Peter Pan ride the original Disney Peter Pan so we started. And I'd forgotten what that movie was like in terms of its treatment of Native Americans what the hell anyway I'm sitting there and even Sluggo looks at me kind of racist turn on tape called Black Elk speaks it's about this Oglala Sioux medicine man who was while he was still alive and then the 1930s they they wrote this book we'd be told the story of Custer and he was there he was a young boy when Custer was killed and he told the story of like life on the Plains and Crazy Horse and it's f****** fascinating what was it written threat in 1930s daily mail letter in Scouts with Kelly speaks listen to on this is like the 4th or 5th one that I've listened to a Native Americans over the last couple of months but this is the best one this is the best one because not that the other ones weren't great they were great but what's interesting about this is the actual words of a man who lived that life it's not just a historical book about the time and describe the events that I'm this is a guy describing what he saw and he was talking particular about war about the way it was when you know they killed Custer and he was there when they killed Custer and just the battles between the American soldiers and the Native Americans like it's crazy it's crazy to think that it happened just a short time ago and it's also crazy to think that if no one came to America like if the world just stayed in Europe in Asia and in the way it had been before Columbus and before the Pilgrims and all that s*** these people would probably still be living like that cuz that's not that long ago well as image think about it to what was the warring tribal cultures it's a difficult environment right and which to say okay we're going to have some sort of federal system we're going to come together we're going to the greater good and you know I know but I've ever seen Native American Indian reservations in this country and I don't never been oh my God never been other than casinos it's just you going and I spent most of my adult life overseas and first time I was on a reservation here in the US we be here but it's you know history repeats that's not a good follow-up either I mean right we haven't we just been to this day we don't do a very good job at all and the reservation system not not all I've ever seen on Indian reservations and good God of their tribe somebody to come in here and talk to me about it because I just had to sort of a peripheral understanding of it up until about five or six months ago I really you know I I had seen movies and I had read books and I'd kinda understood but I doubt he didn't really really get into it until I started reading these books and it's just it's just incredible to think that there was millions and millions of tribes are millions and millions of members of different tribes living in this country like basically like Stone Age people 150 years ago and often times so you know in in constant conflict with each other and the Comanches six arrows in 10 seconds do they were just like these f****** soldiers up cuz they couldn't reload right but I'd wait for the initial Valley and then they charge in and they also could they were such great Horseman they could actually shoot underneath the horse's neck so that hold onto the rain somehow or they were under the horse's neck and they were protected and they were shooting at the soldiers near and they were shooting from horses nobody knew how to do that before everybody got off the horse to shoot and they were going to encounter a ride please cover and concealment of the Comanches apparently dominated if they had so many horses they were rich and horses they're the ones that figured out how to master the horse the best gel to use small horses they didn't use like these big horses at the Americans use right but small people small people a book with stray into sort of okay well let's look you know from the perspective of another whichever tribe they were in battle with but not using very good so I'll pick up this book is it is it is it's an amazing history and you're right it's not that long ago there's another great book was quite a few of them with blood and thunder today nothing right they run out and was a small guy wasn't allowed a soft voice and yeah there was a show men who made America think or it was a follow-on from that but they they had a handful of episodes about Kit Carson but they kind of went through they picked out some of that the individuals you would imagine right I mean the frontier I think the men who built the frontier I think it would cause a follow-on to that Siri said they did but The Men Who Built America okay which seems misogynistic but women probably helped they had an hour behind every great Titan of Industry there was a woman and several of his Mistresses but I think that this this thing about building the Frontiers was interesting they tried they tried to provide a perspective from the Native American Indians point of view I don't think I did a good job The Covered Bridge was still worth watching so was it was a good series yeah I think most of us are pretty ignorant to what goes on on the reservations today and I'm included you know you hear these horrible stories of alcoholism and poverty and you know just that they live in these nations inside of a Nation that's what it's what's very strange and the only thing that really knows natural resources that can help them but really gambling gambling becomes a big Revenue source for Allah Lenape tribe simply apply for it Cayman license around very good it will say this much in terms of just the way they laid the museum out right but it's it's just absolutely full to the ceiling of incredible stories and artifacts and and history bits but it's definitely worth people going to DC if they if they sent him to go to Smithsonian station put that one on the list because it's it's really fascinating in terms of just the way they laid the museum out right but it's it's just absolutely full to the ceiling of incredible stories and artifacts and and history bits but it's definitely worth people going to DC if they if there's enough time to go to Smithsonian since you put that one on the list because it's it's really fascinating

I'm in that bed debate last night I did Washington oh yeah and I don't watch him yeah. That is that's a boat with a lot of holes in it and they going to make it across the harbor it was ridiculous. people in front of the camera you ask him a question they have 30 seconds to answer at everybody else is jumping and yelling things out they're all trying to get a sound bite and I think there is something to that now I don't I don't buy his his argument so you know I don't I don't but I like the guy and I like the fact that he's consistent any means what he says and so I date again I can separate out like him from liking his policy don't see a problem there but I don't think they're going to let Bernie the moment he asked Elizabeth Warren Elizabeth Warren and come out the other day and said that she had a private conversation with Bernie and ask Bernie Sanders let me just be clear she said are you saying that you've never said this to Warren and Bernie said absolutely not very next words out of my mouth was she turned it was born to so send her warrant when Bernie said to you that he never know when Bernie said to you that a woman couldn't be president how did you feel Jesus Christ the fact they want to marginalize Sanders so cuz I think they feel like can't just no way you can win on a national level I think about being Native American for whole life

but yeah if you suddenly find me know that favors right or that there's a you know this there's his contact was only guess what we had said that that's a concern is always that if we're about to Nuke ourselves into another dimension that the aliens come down and go ahead dummies impressive actually it was a great movie it's weird cuz what they what they thought it would look like and yeah the robot it's just not too long ago this is what you spend your time watching a thing that the family took the alien in their house I like you. You're not even a little suspicious I don't think this guy might be a creep what's your favorite movie Alien Space jonra movie the best one is alien the Sigourney Weaver movie I think first one yeah that's most likely would alien life is going to be like some horrific parasitic f****** creature that eats everything it finds yeah that's that's amazing is likely that seems more likely I remember sitting the theater when that movie came out watching it in when that when it popped out of that guy's chest he was in the entire theater jobs just crazy but I know it's hard because you watched that movie today and you're watching it having seen all the other movies that it's affected and all the other science fiction genre movies and special effects movies but that movie was special in 1979 when that movie came out that was a special movie that was a f****** horrifically scary movie and it was no cut the s*** scenes everything seemed legitimate the creature was completely unique Weaver was hot hot as f*** I mean a woman is the hero and you not you not flinching you're not there's no part where you're going to want what is she doing she's kicking everybody's ass to the f*** out of here that's that's a movie like that's a real hero that's a real hero who Rises to the occasion in this horrific situation where this ship has it been overtaken by an alien I think that there's I think that there's things out there I don't know if I believe I want to believe that we've been visited but I don't know if I believe I think it's things out there I'm on board with the second part of that as well you know it's hard to find out from the network when they're going to start this show and this getting Secrets out of Washington DC right so I'm thinking we would have known for now if it had happened but I I do believe this other s*** out there right I just I can't believe we're at I don't think we're it do that there's something that something was here that they would visit occasionally dropping out of the cage land for a scientific expedition to see what the f*** were up to if you wanted a person if you weren't a person if you were for some from some enlightened race a million years Advance our house you would be so fast and to come by and look at people that was alive back then God damn it would be faster to be a fly on the wall and watch these primitive humanoids try to figure out fire and try to figure out hunting and and become what we are today and watch the whole thing because I think I would be boring as s*** I mean that rock into a circle do something with it come on traveling in at these distances in the week again looking at the issues of propulsion systems for Hypersonic flight except with a look at this bunch of you know folks down here and think just not interested I don't know I think it is certain point in time it would be unnecessary to physically visit I feel like maybe watching us to the Samsung TV you know folks down here and think it's just not interested I don't know I think at a certain point in time it would be unnecessary to physically visit I feel like maybe watching us through the Samsung TVs

you think about all this stuff about I mean New York New York Times at articles about at this Air Force test pilot Santa come out talking about encountering flying saucers or unidentified flying object particularly Commander fravor right head that David navigation program and I always say the same thing about everything but after talking to some of these folks including forever and a handful of others who were both pilots and also involved in in the a tip program for the u.s. government to the military there's there's things out there that we haven't been able to identify and I'm not jumping on on the I'm not jumping on the alien train 9sa but I'm what I'm saying is that there's things that extremely experienced Pilots military Pilots with significant amounts of experience couldn't figure out couldn't identify and so I'm certainly not to be smart enough to say okay this is what it was was it a foreign governments experimental aircraft was it something I don't know but what I do know is that the u.s. government took it seriously enough that they developed their own internal program within the Pentagon to try to sort out the wheat from the chaff right and save okay what do we actually have to worry about in part because it's national security issue right if there is a aircraft or if there's something up there that a pilot a military pilot sees for instance that government should be working on that the problem is always been that once you talk about that then people me to go off area51 gets dismissed but there was a much more serious effort than I I knew about before I started working on this thing and so I don't know I think I've got an open mind about that it's it's like that old thing about how can we really be the only people out here are or life-forms out here that seems a little obscure for me to believe it seems unrealistic yeah X out and tells the story and he's not deviating from the story he's not a guy was trying to make money and it's just an idiot doesn't have a history of telling fantastic stories was actively jamming the radar which I said what the f*** and then that's the way it moved from 60,000 feet down below 200 ft and like less than a second and no signs of a nose no signs of any propulsion system ya think about that one way or the other you know that the point of this is to agganis account use the money Trail as a way to get inside some of these programs and then to the degree that you can without you know to agree that you can't talk about things are Declassified you know not necessary try to make a case we're not trying to say it is this or does that you know but I think we're presenting a lot of interesting information that you know about this situation with favor as an example. I was pretty much straight forward you know pound the ground through some counter-insurgency operations counter-narcotics counterterrorism operations we never did encounter alien things and we were being contacted on the regular basis or at least a semi-regular basis that would change the way everybody feels about everything yes ma'am Andre gave that speech me made me give it I think was United Nations you said to imagine how easily we would come together if we are faced with a threat from an alien world right and everybody was like oh my God he knows something what that would mean not just obviously bromygod really there's something going on out there but then swear that break down and entrust not that it's not happening already in terms of the government and its ability to play square but has an experimental test site for aircraft and you know it made perfect sense well then you get all these experimental aircraft and yeah locals you know see this s*** you know local thing I'm fairly good-sized region because of the the the distance on these and you know it's understandable how you start getting some of these stories but you know having having said that you know I sat down with Private Ryan we talked about this a lot for this one episode and I talked to several others and not sure what to think but again I'm not closing the book on anything at this point see the way I look at it as if these were unique Expeditions from another planet like or whatever it is that comes here some alien spacecraft the all they have to do is come here once or twice get set up a show science expeditions to Tijuana I'm not going back there no way unless I'm drunk again they could just do it a couple of times and people have these stories and everybody else dismisses it like where are they worthy I don't see any aliens cuz you really wouldn't and yet you probably are capable of moving at the speed of flavor described where it was just impossible to track with a human not like they're not going to be no I don't want to steal their technology all the weird what ifs and who could do this and how could that be true the Delian one is the most fascinating cuz if that was real and if we somehow or another one day get some undeniable proof like the the favor film the film footage the Gunner footage to the the radar for the that's pretty goddamn compelling but man if there was something like that CDL in one is the most fascinating cuz if that was real and if we we somehow or another one day get some undeniable proof like the the favor film the film footage the Gunner footage did the radar for the that's pretty goddamn compelling but man if it was something like that off the charts

6% of people in England and Wales have a UK passport I got a UK passport to you being a member of the royal family and yet they've trademarked apparently sort of them is if they're they're brand new and Duchess of Sussex and they're not allowed to make any money off of the royal family so they were out there giving allotments allowances living expenses much it's a significant amount of house on the grounds of Windsor Castle they're going to continue to live in move but yeah and please hook me up with him into a Kardashian all they need to do starting to dorsing f****** makeup lines and sneakers and watches and s*** next to you know Ted's millionaire bat rabies problem there buddy right I think I was going to go he's going to go to Vancouver move part-time to Canada but he came out and said you know what I'm moving to the states until Trump is not president from The Sovereign Grant in the 2016/2017 fiscal year damn I give them weather in $3000000 in the next year good to be Queen to help Finance the extensive renovation of nothing is making a hundred million dollars in a year everybody brainwashed over there but she has been a remarkably consistent with family Heatwave is now apparently a hundred $3000000 that's that's a significant that it's a significant amount yes what it would it kill you system just give the money for free to be a royal give the money for free to be a ruler

how about the other thing you got to go to about the other prince the one that's Epstein's friend no answer Luke 18 she looks 16 are you sure you should let me let me ask you this found out that the the tapes were missing at the f****** the cameras didn't work in the tapes were deleted from the first accidentally deleted from the first time you attempted suicide and schirmer's like a conspiracy evidence that will the biggest get a professional and yeah it's it's it's astounding but but yeah what what is it your birthday and I'm nobody can get to the bottom of anything but it has a crazy one like they got him in the jail the guards are somehow or another getting in trouble so who knows what the guards are going to say they might get suicided my favorite part was the guy they chose for his cellmate to see the f****** gorilla they chose for sale media reminded me of that Richard Pryor That giant Goomba is huge Italian ex-cop who was a murderer and a drug Runner I mean this guy is built like a brick shithouse and this is Epstein cellmate up giant likes to also keep them from all the people that he killed they bark when they're coming around and grab your gun it's a good move its it's just crazy there's so many pieces to the puzzle that are so ridiculously obvious and then when you find out that Clinton flew them at least 26 x 26 x had no idea thanks again I don't I'm I'm not a buyer on these sort of things but yeah you look at it you look at the facts around you think they just know there's no way in hell went home again me and it seems like they dead set something up for him to make it very easy for him to be incarcerated for what should be a pretty heinous crime I mean he would think sex with underage girls and sex trafficking death without saline or just laying okono in Columbia or something all the Clinton tapes compiling out onto the f****** floor of Wednesday Gladys Bell agents who've been murdered that's literally what she was reading a book on what he was was compromising a lot of these wealthy powerful people but getting video tapes of them hooking up with young girls including prince Andrew right now and for whatever reason you know you heard of anything like this before it's just something that's been done in the past not not hurt the first time time names I mean it went so well and I'm going to tell you something after the show's over after shows it but if you whisper in my ear Hilaria never figure that out that's understand Korean push that right on the front porch to get back we can you talk about North Korea but a common strategy that intelligence agencies would use where they would try to compromise people in order to get like what would be the benefit if you had like the Mossad was doing that and they were doing that too and using the theories and people believe it's because I'm saying it doesn't do that we don't use honey traps we don't do that sort of thing because that sort of Leverage always is it's always going to head south on you and so we don't you know try to call or somebody in that sort of a relationship and then we can take advantage of and yet other services do the Russians being one of them they do that all the time yeah they've they've had some very successful efforts to do that end and if you can if you get somebody in that position they're compromising himself with you put themselves in with it was like an Epstein situation where suddenly you got them at video of them with with an underage person or whether they provided a document that they shouldn't buy it's always the concept is always the same no matter what that what that action is your you're getting them on the hook your your you getting something that's leverageable over them and if if they don't just go forward and mediately saying Turn Around of the boss and say I'm guilty did this sorry then they're compromised and then you've got them as mental service you've got that we can start again because now you know you know that not only did they do something to do with that. overseas or whatever and I'm thinking all right I'm trying to explain this person's got to access there an interesting position nursing job and then they got access information that we want to know this priority Target and then I want to say okay now I want to develop a relationship a little bit maybe I'll bump into the person of the few parties maybe we're in the same parent-teacher organization whatever this year that's right can you work the foreign ministry here and you know whatever country haven't been how about you give me some documents but instead you know maybe it's something different maybe they worked for mystery maybe they work in Aerospace business you know that's a Target and you say it but you've developed a bit of a relationship with my kids doing this school project and you know it's all about whatever Hypersonic flight you know and and you know you know that they work at some you know aerospace companies hypersonics you know and and you're not looking for anything classified you just looking for a research paper or study or something and on and if they come back and say this is an interesting study that act alone and I given you some classify but that act alone mean something big right it means their work askable in a sense they responded to your request for information you can put it that way but you go from there then you ratchet it up slowly bit by bit if you got the time frame to do it maybe sometimes you know you got too short a time frame because there's a requirement to get along and you got to accelerate the whole process of getting leverage on all these different people for whatever his purpose was he went with a lot of celebrities there was a state money I mean maybe he'd maybe you just who knows maybe you got off on sort of being the Kingpin in this whole thing and I had to be something valuable that they were getting from it I'm guessing I don't know get the idea of you would have leverage over these people you have been compromising situations and then they would do things for you but what would they do for you yeah like what I like being close to you know the seat of power or maybe you don't like being close to what he thought was like the royal family member it is interesting but I don't think I mean look at it since I've been kicked to the curb Abba to do in the trolley is to some degree but I don't think I don't know what the weather is going to have the new cycle is so fast when something happens even something as ridiculous as the Epson case with so obviously he was murdered and then Michael bad and goes on 60 Minutes and says consistent with when was strangled up never in all my years of seeing people hang them never seen him with these kind of fractures this is fractures or indicative of strangulation it has one serious money to do to write it's something we should explore I want to see what he's probably got a fur-lined cell. Kevin Spacey well they put the Epstein case on there

tape over that camera you do this probably you do write how much you know if you got one that's over recent vintage check and you'll see there's a little little hole that's like trying to program your your VCR I trying to figure out how to get into your TV into the settings to change the smart interactivity and then do you also want to trust that that's what's going to happen if you turn it off so but they also don't have the resources and time available commercial side of things I was different because it drives what they're all about which is making money especially when you sign those terms of agreements the terms of use agreements like most people just accept it you don't look through it I was decades ago but you you give up that right by clicking on agree on those user agreement allows anyone to access and obtain copies of the date of The Company Store on them and the right to delete that data and opt out of company selling or monetizing their data only for residents California though they live somewhere else but you can now then then anything even in a lot of ways more than the government spying on us about the power that something like Facebook has the insane amount of influence they have on people and how do they use of their algorithms they actually instigate arguments and try to get people because that's how people respond and that's what makes people want to click on things and I that's what generates Revenue so their algorithms encourage you know what an outrage but they don't really but people like outrage so they encourage you to go seek out like Ari shaffir didn't expiry will use YouTube and you only search for puppies that's always search for just puppies on YouTube and that's all you two would recognize this is all they were recommending to him was puppies and he's like okay so it's really not nefarious based entirely on what your needs are or what what your interests are butts so many people are interested in things that outraged them that it becomes a very profitable thing for them when their algorithm shows these people what they want but it's the problem is the people itself it's not surely the album it's not like some the algorithm in some nefarious algorithm is designed to instigate The Strife now it's it's taking advantage of human nature to some degree but it's also raised a really important point because coming up on this election people talk about oh my God they're going to hack in they're going to influence the phone and it's very clever so if you look at like a recent something that just happened was really interesting and being investigated but I report came out from a group area one which is looking at that hackers and looking at cyber security issues and then it's not a well-known group it's not like it's out there but they just came out with a report of a Russian entity likely the former Gru the military intelligence of of the Russian intelligence service hacked into burisma number risma is that company in the Ukraine that Hunter Biden was sat on the board of and now you think and so what happened almost immediately when this report comes out saying recently Ukrainian aw if you don't investigate the bind situation so you'd look at this and if you just looked at it on a very simple level you go wow and I've already seen some of that narrative saying what look the Russians are working on behalf of trump again see that's what they're doing they're working on behalf of their hacking into Purisima and that's you know what he was complaining about if you step back and you think about what are the Russians trying to do right with all of their hacking efforts all their social media engineering they're trying play the scent so now what if you got now you're ramping up the story again now you know to what degree are area one story of report is correct and then there's some discussion as to whether it's accurate or not but to it to that degree that you have to look at everything now with a very skeptical I have to say Okay what is the purpose of it why is this a timed leak of information right today intended another word for the Russian and tell service you don't do anything haphazardly the idea that we're going to wait this out now because now it looks like we're still you know we're pushing this whole thing was trying to help Trump when I get that narrative going again because now we're getting into an election cycle is interesting stuff it's like it's like after we smoked almost immediately after social media post Pro very suddenly but again and over the course of the next 48 hours massive numbers compared to what had been in the past of sympathetic enough to turn people's thoughts right to get that narrative going to be like oh my God they fascinated a foreign leader that's all they're looking to do is create an Iranian cyber security forces is increasingly sophisticated we look at 3:10 to look at this political Spectrum saying I'm right and left whatever but you have to step back and think you know what it what what's what are they doing what's with the purpose of this and maybe it's more complex layer than just simply accepting what it is it's being said which happens you know that side of danger social media it's whether it's for the left or right doesn't matter whether it's from a foreign entity you know that state-sponsored effort you taking your run with it next thing you know it's got 10,000 likes and people are talking about it like it's correct a real problem with today's social media is that these agencies like the internet research agency in Russia did before the 2016 election they really can stir up the scent with these thousands and thousands of social media accounts that they have and they can get people thinking in a certain way then get people to argue things in a certain way and you hear those talking points that these bots in these you know these companies that are designed just to stir people up you see those talking points repeated so it is a fact I'll know absolutely they wanted to get the narrative out there for right so they would pay off during this weather was overseas or here where it may be too in that was old school right but the point of it all right that the the reasoning mind is still the same. You're trying to effect a narrative you're trying to affect a certain opinion or you're trying to foment the scent you're trying to create some chaos and you're right out here now with a lot of the social media that foreign entities of doing they're trying to take advantage and trying to drive wedges at 350 crate why doesn't example whatever it is that they can do and sometimes sometimes I don't it just simply to create the chaos and sometimes it doing it for you no more specific Focus reason but we're not sophisticated and I think we're more aware of it now because it's been in the news and we've been talking about it some degree but as a population were not very sophisticated and so they're still going to take advantage of it and it's not just a rush and it's additive any any nation that resource of the ability and somewhat motivation and sees it in their own best interest they have a cyber unit it's doing this sort of thing so you know where it's going to go but you know you worry about sore the the impact that has it's not the you know it's not the idea that they're going in there to voting machines and switching up data I mean frankly we should be going to a paper-based system I would out if I was in charge I would say that's it no more paperless voting system get that s*** out of here when I can rely on the internet know what they're doing in Iowa for the caucuses so I'm going to be a internet-based voting reporting for the caucuses in Iowa get back to the old days here if you're targeting a terrorist organization and you start having success picking up cam to Communications and Indian gathering signals Intelligence on the first thing they do is throw their phones away and go back to the old system of work I'm going to hand write some message I'm going to hand it to my cousin he's going to hand it to his cousin and that's all that's our communication system from now on so we should dumb down and go back to the old days and just do a paper system you know which takes longer and is a pain in the ass but message I'm going to hand it to my cousin he's going to hand it to his cousin and that's all that's our communication system from now on so we should dumb down and go back to the old Days Inn to do a paper system you know which takes longer and is a pain in the ass but

and weird gig and the worst New Year's Eve you got to do something as you send them off that's only an hour and a half left in the New Year in the old year and I feel like that was the appropriate song because it was a song written by a comedian Charlie Chaplin 200 years old was a hit in the 50s for Nat King Cole Michael Jackson we did it in the 90s when he was on trial for child molestation chose to do a song by Charlie Chaplin the Amo famous job they didn't call it that but yes he married no anyting he married like it was like Jerry Lee Lewis he was like with 14 year olds Charlie Chaplin can you run your magic lightbox Jamie and see if see if there's a no child molester yes Charlie Chaplin famous for it for that and I hope you know back then I don't think they got your for it but what do you think 20 I don't know if they were child labor laws I just don't know what Priscilla Presley when she like 14 when I wrecked yeah and that was Elvis was a child molester too and that was the 50s right right and that while he went into the army in 58 so that's when he met her in Germany her father was a colonel and she was 14 and of course he was 25 and a giant Rockstar and he says to the colonel would you mind if I took 14 year old daughter back to America she can live with me at Graceland and it'll all be good in the guy says enjoy what the f*** was wrong with people back to not is there a chapel in The Hangover or child molester yes I definitely is rougher you know I mean you and I I think walk the same path we often talkin about we I think of progressives but we have short patience with some of the fragile some of that is just the way you're brought up I think kids are coddled you know I think they're indulged and that's the reason why they freak out over microaggressions and stuff and some of that is just as telling some of the stories not a apropos of this just talk about something else but it just reminded me that here I'm a kid who had I think a normal middle-class upbringing I consider it an idyllic I consider it an innocent you couldn't buy today I mean first of our group in New Jersey in the 60s there was no racial issues because there was only one race in town that's just the way it was I'm not saying that's good it wasn't but that's so there weren't racial issues that weren't drug issues I didn't I didn't try pot in high school that may have maybe there was a rumor that if you kids were but that wasn't even a thing there wasn't even any like divorce it was really the land That Time Forgot you know it was Leave it to Beaver land and telling someone this time my father who grew up in the depression cheap you know love him dearly but I don't think that's the wrong word and sent this to an army friend of his as the dentist and this is 1964 I was eight did not use novocaine and I remember vividly like he had like eight cavities that had to be filled he said if it hurts raise your hand drill when it's so into me and then I'm riding home up this big hella it was cold on my bike with the tears freezing on my cheek so get to the dentist yourself personally wouldn't do that today just be on their own like get your ass to the dentist on your bike get home after they drill into you with no novacaine by bad people people were just rougher rougher time and I wouldn't recommend these things exactly necessarily although getting some place on your own I don't think it's the worst thing in the world but a little more of that example about that and he believes that you should let your kids roam around and let them find their way home and there is a movement for that that's how I was raised from school flying to the house change into my play clothes fly out the door my mother never said where you going what are you doing and you know we're gone and again in Leave it to Beaver town there was a 6 whistle really yeah different everything I know the whistle went off time for dinner and then you right and then you got your ass home when you heard the whistle we didn't have watches or phones or you know I don't want I mean I don't want to compare it's a different world for sure between the way we grew up in the way they're growing up today I don't know what's better when you heard the whistle we didn't have watches or phones or you know I don't want I mean I don't want to compare it's a different world for sure between the way we grew up in the way they're growing up today I don't know what's better

any of those old schoolers that's a point at the front of it sits in true story right talk about how those guys who are such icons couldn't make it today take too long and you could take you could take 2 minutes before you got to the punchline you could take 2 minutes to set something up the audience was perfectly okay with that you could never do that to the Jack Benny and Bob Hope was more rapid fire a lot of these old schoolers you know I mean I have never funny list and at a friend of mine created years ago and some of them are on it you know Danny Thomas and I don't know I mean there's some people I thought were never Bill Cosby stuffy did but everything I've ever heard even as a kid and I saw him on TV I'm like no I don't like this s***'s corny I have I feel very very ahead of my time I never liked him for ya so I know somebody I like Snot somebody I was romantically involved with but a girl who he was horrible to and I never liked him after that as a person that makes sense cuz I just heard from people on the set of Newsradio that he drugged girls it was like one of those weird things you heard as a room like why does he do drug girls but Bill Cosby no I mean American Dad America and you have to wonder why a guy who could get laid as a married man that's obviously a pinky had but I also know a guy who was a promoter and and told incredibly ridiculous stories about things that Bill Cosby did that we're not sexual but just informed me that what his Kink is is part of a much larger sickness about control and making people do weird things because he can let me tell you what I heard and then you tell me what you heard I heard he makes people watch him eat Curry make the whole staff come into his dresser and watch him eat I hadn't heard that exactly but it's exactly in line with what I heard that he would do things like make you what was one of them like you food and then he would say you know scoop out the the do we part of the hamburger bun after you wash your hands and put it back on the hamburger or once he asked them to send him the soap that he hadn't finished using in the dressing room like kolenda to him send it to crazy crazyshit that again speaks to a pathology that's larger than what we know about him sexually that that has a subcategory under that big has to need to have the woman be unconscious that's it that's a weird thing I can't I can't I can't get into certain things I'd like I can't even imagine why someone would find it attractive to be with a child I can understand why that would be appealing to you I can understand this you know a lot of things I can understand to the casino and he made the security guard talked him into bed if you have anything at the lights on so I was like I'm going to lie on the bed I had a friend who had an interesting take on it and he said there is something that happens to some famous people's but particularly famous people who were famous a long time ago where they feel like they are better than other people that there is a giant gap between them and other people they feel like they can do things to people and they that what yeah that's uncommon but his pathology people try to hide that it's called acting house that's why when they're in front of the camera they're so Charming but we know that behind the scenes they're they're not but he seemed to wear it on his sleeve for using bad words but there are people that they get to dispose where they think that they're owed things and he thought about that sexually to he said he probably felt like he was just so above those women and he didn't even want to negotiate with them we just drugged them and f***** him cuz he's Bill Cosby they should be happy it's mostly unexplored a giant mystery human beings I've ever experienced what is experience he's been famous since the 1950s American Icon right is Rich Piana men's groundbreaker end of legitimate world-class stand-up comic who toured the whole world create against Cosby Show that was a groundbreaking television oh yeah so many factors so many factors and then on top of that a psychotic pervert and a creep and drugging women I mean on top and who knows what else just a my fine like 30 dead cats in his backyard me who knows the Five Guys into somebody told me it just may not be true that he was drugging people with animal tranquilizers that that's he had a vet's license or something and that's how it that's how he was two people were like how did he get the stuff that he was using for The Knockout pills vitamin K if I don't feel good I got my feet up here all the time you got some low for now I want to go to your choice you wore those today I didn't even think about it that show was at went out when I started to do it there was such a proliferation of comics that you could do that show 30 times and that didn't make me famous I mean elevated me to a degree it legitimized you and Joe business but that did at one point just doing The Tonight Show once made you a star but part of what true story is about was the comics frustration that they came along at a time when it was did at one point just doing The Tonight Show once made you a star but part of what true story is about was the comics frustration that they came along at a time when it wasn't that unique a thing anymore it was too many Comics you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a comic

yeah I would watch something like that accept it is just too much the first was just too much do any dance to watch I mean I put it on my list but you know that and this everything have to be like a season does everything have to be so drugged back to our subject everything is either very condensed or way too drawn out and you have to follow it and you're not like an episode of Friends we don't have to know what the fuk happened the week before and you just tune in to psi yes I depend upon the week before right it was all everything is on dark and I've had 10 people binge I don't binge I never been to anything I have the opposite problem I have watching a d d i when I I love to watch TV it's the last thing I do before I sleep at night but unless something is absolutely compelling I don't watch more than 15 minutes of it I like 15 minutes of this and then 50 minutes of that and 15 minutes and then go to sleep or structuring and Netflix specials that way because of that people are doing their closing bit first I read that somewhere that you have to get to grab them every f****** drama is something and then six months earlier you know we have to go back really crazy do something linear well it's this whole thing that you were saying before we do have a second 7-second attention span or we have 3 hours I would love to see someone try to make a movie like Steve McQueen's LeMans cuz if you don't remember that movie old Steve McQueen before the very talented director heat direct what you know right you're really hate directed he's an African-American eat directed 12 Years of Slave I believe are you are you using your magic lightbox to Google her and he's a big guy that Steve McQueen who died of cancer in 1980 I believe I remember him chasing cures and Mexico for wedding yeah I think you probably was a heavy smoker and there's no talking for like the first I don't know how many minutes is just you know people going there life on the racetrack like all preparing for things and there's no chat Hitchcock movie I mean it just shows how different the audiences are in how we developed or undeveloped or if it's that there's an expectation that people have a short attention span so that everything is made for that expectation know they do I think they I think they really do I mean the more you I do I must say as someone who grew up when Alfred Hitchcock was still was he still making yeah he made a movie in 1972 I was 16 I saw it in the theater was one of his last he was on his last legs but psycho it was 1960 I was too young to for that but he was still very involved in the big director and I tried to watch I did watch the one he made in 1956 the year I was born called The Man Who Knew Too Much I think story he made three times he liked that story about the innocent guy who's being chased by somebody and he doesn't know why they're chasing him and the police are after him but he's got to find the bad guys before the police find him it's Jimmy Stewart and Doris Day it is I mean they talked about at the master of suspense I mean Jesus Christ is like the master of keeping me falling asleep it's really subtle slow I'm sorry but I think they've improved on that I did maybe that's sacrilege to the movie community and Martin Scorsese a write me a letter or something but Jesus Christ I'd much rather watch salt you know there's a thriller that Jason Bourne movies I feel like they took what Hitchcock was doing and yes they wrapped it up and I'm glad they did Hitchcock's hard to get through we also have to realize when Hitchcock was making films they've been only making films for 50 years is a real even though he started in the late 30s Wayback yeah there's something about that like you know anything about stand-up like if you ever tried listen to Lenny Bruce I certainly have good example yeah I can't do it doesn't work anymore we're in a different world

I've been a fan of yours for a long time I bought true store and I of you what how about that book way back in the day man if I was living in New York was great book thank you I very underrated book on Stanley, early life I would never write another novel just did to make every sentence every paragraph funny or telling no extra words to me that's the kind of that and I would get busy and put it aside and I'll look at it for years and then I did my old life 1985 in December I went down to Zihuatanejo Mexico to do the memorable TV movie TV movie there there's a praise that they chipped memoral TV movie Club Med I think we all remember it now we don't Linda Hamilton was the star I think I do remember it I hope you don't I remember Linda Hamilton in a movie review it was a TV movie and we stayed at the Club Med I was in you know it was kind of a low-budget thing as far as the people in the cast and crew went because we stayed at the Club Med which was not a club that is not a luxury hotel you know what club meds are you give up your money you pay everything and Beads but you don't really need money and the rule is for people who just enjoy the outside that's why you're in Mexico so the room is monastic right there's no TV cuz you're out all day you know you just going to be in the waves and then you're going to f*** and go to sleep and whatever so I had a lot of free time because I wasn't in the shot every day but I was in Mexico eventually I got f****** cabin fever down there and I couldn't wait to get home because they're a long time and I've nothing to do and I wrote a lot of the novel there and put it away again and then I was in a career slump in the early 90s had finished with acting mostly I didn't want to do that anymore I've done a few sitcoms and I didn't want to be the office creep forever and so I was just like nowhere and that's when I finished it and also that's like the year I did cocaine which it probably would not have finished it without that only one year wanted to let you know me I'm a pothead like you I it's not my drug but you know if you really insist you can get in you can get into any drug and I just happen to be at this point in my life where I was vulnerable to any I've nothing to do all day I wasn't working so and it helps you write it help productivity due to productivity drivers drug that I liked because I wasn't social on it I just don't like to have sex on it most men did not I love that and and right but I didn't want to talk somebody that guy I don't know he's never that guy and talked a Blue Streak know but but it helped me you know concentrate and organized and that kind of stuff and you know and then I was probably smoking pot to I was smoking cigarettes a year that was not a healthy year remember you know you could cocaine which is kids that is the worst drug it really is because you got a little honeymoon. And then that quickly goes away and then you're chasing that high and you know it's not healthy and then you know you're you're trying to at the end of the night take the edge off you know you're into that put the Ed it said that was I never touched it I got lucky very smart gout is it still in publication the great question I'm finding so much about my own life here I didn't know cuz like I didn't correct with being redone how much from my arrow like guys who grew up and shot hold up when we were just starting it was huge fault for not pushing that through I guess but I thought at the time it would have really would have made a good movie but it's Robbie too late now and I was doing that well remember that movie came out with Tom Hanks remember that flashlight punch lidocaine Tom Hanks was good I mean Tom Hanks could could have been a stand-up he did it as good as you can possible possible but they just never capture the whole essence of it and also when you trying to have someone I see this on maisel no I haven't seen that yet some show the one I think it's Jim Carrey show on Showtime about dying up here and I like the show but whenever you showing a stand-up comic and your kids acting you're acting as a stand-up and then the audience has to laugh is something about it that isn't it just you can tell it's not real it's like a boxing scene in the movie same thing a little bit yeah it's in you can't as any giant comedy star-nosed you can walk out at a comedy club and you'll get the biggest Ovation in the world 2 minutes later you can be dying because it's involuntary after thrilled to see you but then if you don't say something funny that can't then I Gotta Laugh it's also very uniquely live thing. Like you have to be right I was hitting like if you watch a special on TV you're really getting 50% of funny your rent you have to be there live you if you're there live you'll get 100% of it so not only that not only watching it not life right because you've got a recording of it but now it's also a fake recording so it's a guy pretending to be on stage and audience pretending to be an audience in the whole thing yeah so maybe it's a blessing in disguise I kept her going up drunk and talking s*** and then people telling her like you can probably do, they like it seems chaotic it gets a little less realistic as time goes on but you watch that show and I like the first two seasons the third season of hope they're not losing me here and it took place in the 50s yeah yeah people telling her like you could probably do, they look at seems chaotic and it gets a little less realistic as time goes on but you watch that show and you like it I like the first two seasons the third season of hope you're not losing me here and it took place in the 50s yeah yeah

what year what season are you guys coming into Norfolk I don't know Seasons it's hard to adjust couple years and we started on HBO in 2003 but then we used to do for the first two years I had to do two seasons they took took them a while to get the idea that this is not like The Sopranos or any other show did this kind of show is a habit show it has to be on most of the year we used to do a season from February so like may let me be off for 4 months and come back for a few months in the fall that's not the way you can do it when you're following events alive show so finally somewhere in there they just okay so then it was one long season 2 supposed to so I guess they counted the early years has two we've been on HBO since 2003 but of course I started to you were on the old show Politically Incorrect somebody sent me a clip of that wow I couldn't even bear to watch it just from the way it was too sad time is cruel actually we look better now just because we look douchier younger of course I mean that's the trade-off in the answers that you're here when you're younger but that started in 93 so I've already passed my we did a 25th anniversary show about a year-and-a-half ago yeah and the fall of 18 it aired I couldn't believe that you know they're trying to bring back Politically Incorrect who is pay whoever came to me a while ago with hosting it a course but it was somebody else hosting it remove to ABC I think we probably sold them the rights to the show which is was probably stupid but at the time it made sense and good luck with it I'm not doing it was one of those question though my manager calls me up because you're not going to want to do this but I'm obligated to tell you why wouldn't you want to do like when someone doesn't show leave it alone and I know right leave it if you laughed and they started doing real time with Adam Carolla right you know exactly what they will be doing format sometimes can I watch or listen to you it's it's not even there I don't get America like people's attention span is either 7 seconds or 3 hours between I mean I do like being forced to condense and four people I always think of the person watching my show is the person who is interested in current events but doesn't have the time to follow it during the week they've got kids and jobs and lives they are going to watch me to catch them up and it's my job to obviously entertain them but also to the Pointe at what's important what what happened this week that you should know about somewhere in that live our whether it's in the monologue or in new rules or the editorial I do at the end or in the panel somewhere I want to cover everything I think you should doesn't necessarily mean it's the things that the newspaper or other outlets thought was important what I think is really important that's what I'm going to cover so there is something to be said for condensing is also a lot to be said for letting it breathe you know I mean letting it breathe I do miss that sometimes I wish I could and very often we're in the middle of a discussion and I have to move on I feel like the way things are going now with streaming like I know HBO has their new streaming service maybe they could just give you an option to let some some of those conversations lengthen out to seems like some of them you just getting started you have to cut him off your right and again sometimes people just want the headlines for you off and I'm reading something and it's too long I just think you should have given me the New York Times starts every article not just tell me what happened don't give me the background on a rocky road and Afghanistan is very label which one side and movies are too long too long people need at but these kind of conversations lend themselves more than most art forms to just letting it happen and yeah it's more natural I mean I like the fact that unlike my early days when you sweat backstage and you'd hear The Tonight Show band playing in summer I did I really have no Lista question no no I don't want you I like you but I'm sure I'm not going to run out of things to ask you or talk to you about but that's a talent itself that you could do that off the top of your head I think you think it's not that much of a talent but trust me a lot of people could not do that I don't know if I would trust myself if you said you have two hours with this guy I would I would be in the back of my mind like s*** what if an hour what if an hour and 10 minutes in I'm like f*** I can't think of one more things you can imagine if you and I were at dinner together talk about it's probably true so that's this okay the same s*** followed by dead air why is complete dead air

I want to know how the divorce laws came to be I do I want to know somebody must have written a book on it I just want to know how we got to this place where you know first of all this idea that you have to live in the style of which you become accustomed I can help you here I can help you in great lawyers make a lot of money if there's a large settlement to its lawyer yes lawyers don't make a lot of money if there's no settlement you know Phil Hartman when he's getting divorced when the things you said to me I go to to f****** give her half come on man you make a lot of money it was a crazed like a 2/3 and I've had friends that have gotten divorced and even though they were they had come to an agreement with the the acts like let's listen to this this and you'll get this and I'll get this by then the lawyers jump in he's trying to f*** you and this know they're trying to f*** you over that deserve more actually the plot of the movie Marriage to be seen Mary story it's terrific I was again it at the beginning because it was about an actress and a theater director and I'm like Jesus f****** Christ can't you at least pretend that there are people in America not outside of your exact circular been so many big movies you know that are just about your world of Show Business terrific movie about it is no bells and whistles it's just we're married we seem very happy and then well we're not happy and we're going to get divorced and then we're going to just just do it amicably and not getting lawyers involved and then it all falls apart and once it goes down that path that you're talkin about it just becomes as vicious as anything without guns okay no children didn't have children and it dragged on for more than I think almost three years and even though they did some kind of a sort of conclusion he was paying for his wife's lawyer I go like you're paying for the general the arm is trying to kill you you're paying for someone to f*** you in the ass you're getting f***** in the ass world of men broken by but you know they've people unfortunately get a horrible disease like cancer and they say I couldn't have gotten through it without my wife I always think yeah and maybe she gave it to you of course literally but I just mean that when you're in a bad relationship the stress we don't know what contributes all the things to cancer but that certainly is I'm sure one of them and then going through a divorce like that I've seen people like you say broken the attract and it's a system the reason why the divorce laws are set up the way they're set up people think all we're protecting women horseshit they're doing it so that they can extract the maximum amount of money out of the mail that way the lawyer gets the biggest chunk that they can possibly get most lawyers have a the work on a percentage basis especially if a woman doesn't have as much money or if she's you know the oil come to her look we've got a deal here we'll we'll figure this out I don't pay me now we're going to make sure we the most will will take care of it all in the end and this is what has happened to several of my friends have been divorced and you know what it is once you see it what I got and I understand and I accept and I support is child support I mean I've I grew up with a deadbeat dad my dad never paid for s*** and I have many friends have also experienced a lot of financial hardship growing up because their dad was a piece of s*** and didn't want to pay for the children the people very close to me but when there's a big difference between that a man taking responsibility for his children big difference between that and alimony alimony is creepy there's something creepy about like my friend like I said didn't even have a child with this woman he is still paying her by the way this is the same guy very good friend of mine has been divorced for 14 years has been married for 12 to a new woman still paying old woman and my job is like you f***** her so hard she can't work right but she literally can't work cuz he be he's a wealthy man he made good money and he works really hard as he's not in the business he's at his real job and he works you know long f****** hours every day and he has his own business and he has to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to someone he doesn't even talk to you anymore I go to the doctor what did jail every night because he couldn't make the payments and they would like let him out on weekends to do rounds and stuff but he was its I got a better one for you when I get angry when he was getting divorced was when he was on Newsradio so it was a financial Peak you know he was the star of the show is making a lot of money right and so his so yeah I get to that that shirt is in Canada right he the judge tells him I don't make that kind of money anymore that was an extraordinary kind of my life it's very hard to make that kind of money you know I'm an actor or just the doctor's the judge rather says your ability to pay has no relation to your obligation to pay WOW think of that just pause here for a moment what a statement where else would we say that it's insane talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars hundreds of thousands like as if he's supposed to conjure this up like his careers about supposed to magically resurrect itself in some really financially viable and strong and able to do everything we can do but when it comes to this it's like we got to take care of them dependent because the men in general are in control the finance or make more money and they can extract more money for nausea while people turning it down it's dark man I mean the only time that I know of is Tom Arnold the males ready we got one on the board there's like if the board was like here if it was it would be a f****** billion scratches on one side and four lines of the one through it and then next to it is like Tom Arnold I never uncouple of the dude never understood the concept of marriage because when people would say why don't you want to get married at a why would I invite the federal and state government into my love life otherwise is not real if you don't get it the sign piece of paper what the f*** do you have just your feelings for that other night good enough friends she had to tell her friends and he really cares that's what's real the paper is what's fake the made me worried about divorces whenever getting divorced so I don't know about you f*** you're doing like why why you're getting so upset about this bill just signed a paper and get married we're going to be together forever I don't know what you're worried about Jesus Christ love me hahaha but also like humans change it's like we said it's so funny when you you can tell you about anything else while I'm not married to it you know do you want that thing they're at married to it but with a human that thing that's most malleable were like we did this before right this real some countries have like you could get married for like 7 when the moment comes because you're so co-dependent girls are not going to tolerate interment cuz I cry if you stuck with Dave at Dave wouldn't ask the boring. It's funny to sign the contract you be fine girl how do you mention Tom Arnold I had him on the very first episode of Politically Incorrect I think with Roseanne and they were talking about marriage and he said the great thing about marriage is when you have a big fight and somebody says I'm leaving you can go you can't we're married and I got what he was saying some people like that that you have this this self-imposed barrier that for difficult you know or when they make you look at the sonogram when you want an abortion in some States look at your f****** baby on the computer screen there and tell come back tomorrow and tell me you want to kill that kid you know you were waiting for you have to cool off you can't just leave where is if you're not married you can unless you live together that's more complicated or kids are more complicated but yeah look at your f****** baby on the computer screen there and tell come back tomorrow and tell me you want to kill that kid you know you were waiting for you have to cool off you can't just leave where is if you're not married you can unless you live together that's more complicated or kids are more complicated but yeah

you think should go on with Louis Louis CK you mention him I know more about it than most people could have talked to Louis about it but what happened versus what's being portrayed as what happened there were there's a lot of stuff that's just not true lucky block in anybody's door woods and what's unfair is that he cannot say it he wanted you if you engage and defend yourself correct the record then you make it worse so you're in this sort of purgatory where if you hear things that are not true you also cannot say anything about it that's it that's it unfair place to be and also like is everything a hanging offence my problem with some of the me-too stuff and of course I think like every right-thinking person it was a great thing that happened that men have been put on notice that you're playing with fire balls and you just can't get away with a lot of the s*** you use regular men in positions of power and are slaves but there is just no consistency Charlie Sheen I like them but he got Super Bowl commercial last year he did way worse things that Louis CK you couldn't get Louis CK are they still giving people I mean at this Litany of things that are way worse than whacking off in front of people which is not cool either of course it's me Louie did Lee Lewis College eyes and own up to it and I just think the there where is the consistency and also where is the is it is it is everything a life sentence that Louis is is a horrible person forever or is there some point where we used to go yes a person pays his debt to society in some way and then you know I know you're allowed back I feel I just feel bad for him I mean I feel like he did weird s*** that he shouldn't have done for sure and I think he knows that I know he knows that but what is the proper punishment and is and who decides it is definitely working again so all the people that are complaining and bitching about our seas know you can hear a lot of theaters is doing his touring again right when you selling his tickets to his fan but he wants to do beers before you can have a special but I'm just saying I'm just pulling it out of my ass I'm just saying what we need some sort of it's been more than two years some sort of me to court yeah that by Judge Rose McGowan how do you decide when you know a person has been punished enough and what what is the gar jerking off I don't like being alone the rest of the material he does about it but you know he asked he asked can I jerk off in front of you when they said yes he did it it's not a good thing nothing good about anyone else and he knows it and I'm not defending them but right people are portraying it is far worse than like he went up at skankfest in New York and people went crazy and cheered and I repost the video of it and someone Twitter weather rare time to look drugged and he assaulted women he asked if he could jerk off in front of people and then he did there's some question as to whether I jerked off on the phone with somebody I don't think that's assault either it's kind of creepy not even kinda it stopped I'm sure he would say it's creepy but we're not talking about someone assaulted people like you can't just change the definition of the word present make you feel bad but hating someone now I also read but I don't know if it's true if his management I think threatened women who were going to talk about this or prevented someone's career from moving because of this if that happened that's amazed almost worse yes that's a really bad so yes I don't know if that's true and he's not allowed to talk make a Twitter just talking about it a few times and I think he just decides at the end of the day it's just better just keep pushing ahead and write and his new our apparently I'm not advertising for it but from everybody that I heard it's f****** amazing cuz all the pain while the trailer he apparently has a just better just keep pushing ahead and write and his new our apparently I'm not advertising for it but from everybody that I heard it's f****** amazing cuz all the pain while the trailer he apparently has a

categorize people is being like you said 1 or 0 binary like either chosen or iridium very careful with how you talk or you get labeled and in one or two of those categories and people are so scared now communicate I had a conversation with a friend a while back and he is crazy conversation it was alcohol involved that women get so much money and divorce of all the s*** they've been through for men over the years and I was home plate I mean like what that it wouldn't have to do with money and divorce like if it that's an individual person it's getting money from another individual person is she getting she collecting is this like reparations for the horrible things that have happened for women and he goes well and you so he starts getting defensive because we would have income inequality the women have to deal with Jesus will you know that's not real right angles we me niego it's not like they have the same jobs both the man and woman are both mailman they both the same amount of houses but the man makes a dollar when the woman makes $0.70 because that's exactly as I go the f*** it is what it is still illegal everybody walk on a mic drop want kids in cages but there's a whole discussion to be had about the immigration here as opposed to just kids in cage or Islam a phobia of course that is a real thing that exists but there's a whole other discussion but just these the left often uninformed but they have these bullet points that they feel like they definitely can shut a conversation. But I mean the just stop people from talking but fortunately known the actual statistics until when we were talking about I was saying don't know you choose different jobs and also they negotiate for themselves differently they need to negotiate for themselves better jobs to get better raises Shores really explaining how to do this and in the end just even maybe possibly against your better instincts to exert yourself and show that you understand your value and this is what men do and this is why men get raises and often times women just kind of keep it to themselves and their little nervous about it but it is amazing it made you mention divorce yeah they don't sir Tazewell going for a raise but only the divorce thing that can go both ways if the woman is the one who has more money women right up to like when I hear that I might go to the gym yes you should go to the gym man much to make fun of men's rights guys but I had one of them on my one of my specials had a bit about it where they were saying you know that men get raped more often than women I go yeah by other men you f****** idiot they're rapin dues what do you think the cheerleaders are there raindrops and Christina Hoff Sommers yes no she was recently and we were talking about the fact that also they don't bring up a lot of the time that most of the horrible dirty jobs in the world yeah for the same crime so we're not crying about being men we're just saying as she says life is a complex yes mixture of advantages and disadvantages I think the pendulum swinging the other way though I think really dumb statements like f*** all white men like we choose to her on Twitter and people used to like a plot and retweet it I think people in Ellicott Co at the f*** a little out there but I have heard when now it's going in the other direction because the races but at the point of say 6 months a year ago when lots of people were getting into the race at some point there were 24 Democrats in there and when a white guy would get in it was very common to hear do we need another white guy and to judge whether someone is qualified right we are using race and gender to say whether someone is qualify just so we understand what we're doing here because I don't think that's exactly what Martin Luther King meant when he said judge by the content of their character and that the color of their skin which seems to elude a certain say when they don't realize it's like people to think they thought him f****** punch I'm going to punch you back like this is this is not it's not that simple when you when you if you go around judging people based on their gender and their their color and their race guess what they're going to do that to you now like this is terrible strategy

read your Twitter know me neither never because why would I say exactly what I read about people who killed themselves I asked some people who I know like Barry Weiss who's brilliant person and she's like oh my God it's so depressing my stop reading even when I'm going to kill them I don't understand that well it's it's very impulsive right you see your name is a bunch of them liking that once and then a bunch of people piling on a real human a lot of people have never met anyone famous they have known that they are looking at a lot of AR-15 like when I say that if I had a Twitter account when I was 15 I was it horrible s*** the famous people ride it to get a ride fart so much that they kill themselves you know what a few of these K-pop stars have killed themselves really looked at from a social media so I think that's the main reason will f*** you give a shih tzus 14 at me like maybe he could have used social media back then that's it right that's the balance like you don't want Jerry Lee Lewis marry his cousin and drowning his wives and you also don't want Elvis yakking 14 or maybe be better I may be a little bit wonder what my life would have been like as a teenager with this stuff is maybe it would have made me kill myself but I was painfully shy couldn't really talk to a girl if I have been able to text them maybe you think I wouldn't exactly I think I could have done really well with that I would had a lot of dick pictures floating around 100% I would have sent it to everybody so f****** however I thought that was a humble brag about it we are not held up the standards that kids are today because everything they do today that they put online to go to put a lot of things online it's permanent forever I couldn't imagine something that I said when I was 14 being permanent appointment back to what this thing about the football player and things that people write on Twitter it's Lucy Kay said to me recently were talking about this she said people look at stuff when it's written down like it's different but it's just talk it's talk but it's written like people she's a f****** b**** I'm tired of s*** and then you see her I'm sorry but that's talk right but when you see it written was like oh my god did you see what he put on Twitter to see what he wrote like you're talking to the whole world now you got to realize this is a different thing and then people can't screenshot for just talk people are wired for gossiping and nonsense talk especially when you're drinking but if you're drinking then you get on Twitter you could say the dumbest should ever take your life and people have taco that famous yes there was one of the first ones off the flight Lifesaver by the way Family Guy did hysterical version of that where Brian the dog goes into the thing tweet something going into a theater and it's semi races but it stood and then by the time he comes out of the movie his life is literally a bob outside his house Bob is literally a bob outside his house we not designed for permanents like that did you be able to use express yourself Loosely it's like if you want to write something in a book and publish that book and you going to carefully consider every word and then you put that book out and you okay with God over it we brought it and that's that's a different thing and f*** this guy

Bernie's 2 left disease for a real idiot word wrong question debate tonight the media asks the wrong question which is what would you do this is a question only makes sense if you're running for King the question should not be what would you do the question is what can you get through what can you propose that Mitch McConnell will not either block or you can override with votes because that's a very discussion what Bernie Sanders wants to do we shouldn't even be talking about cuz it's not going to happen the free education paying back student loan debt medicare-for-all for all even if the Democrat wins the election this still going to be half the country that's Republican and half the Congress is going to be Republican and district and wanted Democrats are not for this stuff you know when the Democrats took over the house in 2018 it was moderate Democrats who won their elections it wasn't the far left so so you get four years of spinning wheel in the mud hoping to get some traction yeah if he gets in again it what can get through Congress what can you get a consensus on what what can you make possible Obama when he did Healthcare said yes we were starting from scratch it would make sense to go for a single-payer system but we're not starting from scratch we're starting from a system where most people already have health insurance through their employer it's a crazy story how that happened it was World War and they couldn't raise wages cuz that was the loss of it to find a way to give employer something else so they gave them health insurance but that's what we have now and a lot of people like it or say they like it I don't think a lot of people like arguing with their insurer company but they were afraid of something worse and I don't blame them you know if you're going to tell me the government and I'm a Democrat but if you going to tell me the government is going too smoothly handle taking over something that large I am going to be a little skeptical we should be there smoothly handle anything there's no evidence Progressive when you go down the list of things that the progressives have accomplished especially in my Lifetime Eyecare the mall Social Security on that was in my lifetime but they improved it in my lifetime Medicare Medicaid these are great programs I mean before Social Security the senior poverty rate was like in the 28% or something and then it went down below 10 it was a success but when you look at what the government really what they're big successes of amounted to its passing out money that very often they don't have that's what they're really good running a giant Healthcare System especially when the politicians who are proposing these systems will not a talk enough about aging you can't pass out all this money with if you're if you're going to allow people hospitals pharmaceutical companies to judge anything they want when the price of an EpiPen can go up from $12 to 1,200 overnight that just can't happen and also they don't ask people to lift a finger to take care of their own health nobody's Healthcare System is going to work unless you involve people at some sinks get in the game you can't like not tell the people look you can't keep eating as much as you want and a shity food as you want and expect us to cover the bill you just can't that is not something that anybody wants to hear that oh I know because I did that editorial and and then remember that people got upset people did not people loved it until James Corden said something oh that's right he had them first of all he did that and in doing that made Fat Jokes which was okay I did not buy the way to literally save lives if he had taken the opposite approach he took the easy way out of course you can always get Applause for saying okay let's let's boo the mean man who told the truth that's not brave principal of my point was a that you can't solve Healthcare unless you ask the people to participate in that that was one and also that we've gone to this place where we're proud of it we're proud of being unhealthy Weight Watchers had to take the weight and Watchers out of their title it's WWE now it's like being fat isn't bad what's bad is someone pointing out that fat is bad but I mean I read the statistic in that editorial 40,000 people a month a month die from obesity that's a crazy number that is a crazy number we have to somehow reversed idea that we have in this country not just about obesity but about a lot of things where I'm perfect the way I am I am perfect the way I am and if you say different you're a very bad person that's not a good place to be it's not healthy for anybody it you're you're protecting people's emotions but shielding them from a possible moment that might make them realize that they are eating themselves to death and I mean I said it also in the peace beauty is in the eye of the beholder that's fine whatever you think is beautiful that's your deal but health is science yeah that's science and when we get apoplectic when there's fifty deaths from shootings or something a month yeah it's very bad and we should be serious about that problem but 50,000 every month and that's just what they're counting from the big ones cancer diabetes and heart disease this literally nothing about your health that is improved by being overweight so you know I said we shouldn't talk people but you don't compare it to anything else I also owned up to the fact that I used to drink too much and I smoked but I didn't defend it would someone said you know you went kind of hard last night with the drinking I didn't say how dare you drunk shame me that fat like he can fix that in a couple of months that's not that hard know he took it was it was opportunistic and I could have literally lost an opportunity to save lives because as someone who does struggle with weight he could have taken the opposite approach and said you know he still makes a really good point and we should we should look at how we are dealing with it I I noticed Jillian Michaels the fitness expert sugarlash it for lizzo for Lucia and you know if if you want to be whatever way you want to be that's fine but it's wrong to shame a fitness expert for saying this isn't healthy or gets even do that it's not going to be that amazing when she gets diabetes diabetes another one and look this is valid it's valid that in this country it is a lot harder to eat right if you're poor yes and we should totally address that doubt if it's on any candidates top 10 list but the way the food situation and subsidies are done in this country is horrible but given that let's not just throw up our hands and say where they can't do country and because it's harder let's not even try it is harder to eat right on a budget but I'll tell you something something you never need to have with your food soda which is a large part of it okay and you'll save money you don't have to have soda you don't have a Snickers bar a banana is $0.19 so it's not impossible Adele got s*** recently because she Apache any fat people go eat something eat something I'm fine what so you can feel better about your weight problem I should eat and get that too willing heavy people have a fan have with someone that they're a fan of that's all so heavy like James Corden like so he's heavy he's got people in the audience at love him and they love him standing up for other happy. singer super-talented extremely popular and overweight like yeah it's fine it's fine I'm like Adele everyone's fine then she loses weight like you feel like she's betraying you because one of the reasons why I like you is because you're fat and you're not fat anymore it wasn't that long ago that we were applauding people when they lost weight remember when Oprah came out that time was she was in the 80s I think but she had lost a whole bunch of it's a very famous picture I think she's she's like in jeans and she's got to like really thin waist and you know she was raising your hands and Triumph and every was applauding I guess that's bad now because again you have to be perfect the way you are and if you criticize that then you're a bad person this picture I think she's she's like in jeans and she's got to like really thin waist and you know she was raising your hands and try if and every was applauding I guess that's bad now because again you have to be perfect the way you are and if you criticize that then you're a bad person

yeah I mean this is like what we're talking about with us growing up that life was rougher in life is easier today and but you have more access to information so maybe it could be better and then things seem to be moving in a better Direction terms of things being safer less violence less crime less rape and then people also get upset at you bring up those statistics that's where it's really interesting to pay car gets attacked for just stating statistical facts to sit and he's not making value judgments he's just saying hey things are if you look at the overall numbers of things this is the safest time to be alive ever it's in the people know but what about this what about that horrible of our era that we live in that fax almost always come second guess your political agenda comes first and if it doesn't fit in then we don't want to hear those facts and that's the left and the right it is the left and the right it's both and it's it's hippie is it to be something that everybody was Jack's it to be something that angered everyone it shouldn't be tied to one party or another party and it really should be something that if there's a there's a real problem with communication in this Society one of them is the denial of actual facts and information if we if we know think we have Rock Solid threads it's whether it's about climate change because it's about war the budget whatever the f*** it is if you have a real number yeah you want to spin and deny like that that's a giant problem it's a giant problem right I get madder at the left because I want them to be better and they should be better and they're there their the science party and they're supposedly the fact people I expect this s*** from the right I'm denying climate change and so forth have been doing that for a long time the left has his dirty thing if you disagree with him in any way you could come on all right person like right I mean a small sliver or rated well I got stuck in this all right category make you guys are out of your f****** mind I've never voted right in my life right I know but there's a there's a I feel like I'm sure you just sometimes a man without a country and there's a group of us Sam Harris find a party and we don't chase these virtues signalers who are always as a friend of mine said they wake up offended yeah and I am always reading a story like daily I read something and what goes through my mind is this country knows completely binary there's only two camps we're totally tribal you either red or blue liberal or servative and everything that one side does that anybody does that represent that side has to be owned by that entire side because people go you or your the party of so whenever there's something on the left that's cuckoo crazy we all own it and that's one reason why Trump won because people you go through the polling his fans are not oblivious to his marriage law what they love about him but they all say they love is he wasn't politically correct it's hard to measure how much people have been choking on that political correctness they do not want to walk on eggshells they do want do not want to think that one little misstep and we'll get fired or be castigated at least you're not just famous people I mean this these are regular people and I think when someone reads the kind of stories you see everyday and it's an eye roll and it's a eye roll at the left that's when you lose people I give examples about two weeks ago the Giants my football team the New York football Giants cut his name is Janoris Jenkins yes we have to say the r word okay first of all I don't understand why that generation feels the need to engage with their fans on Twitter but he was and some guy needs a teaching social media with criticizing him and he's a good cornerback or whatever he is and the was criticizing him and he answered back again I don't know why but saying that I'm pretty good I only can do my job. Retard explain so then the guy the fan says what was it matter the team is losing and that's when Janoris Jenkins said I can only do my job retard and cut like cut from the team got like the heck use a day and first but I think he said there's something I thought it was a hood thing you know maybe Janoris Jenkins didn't get the memo because he's not Twitter 24/7 and living with the woke stirs that we don't do this anymore oh sorry I just figured if we don't do this anymore my bad and move on with our lives instead of know you're cancelled your cut you are irredeemable yeah like that and it just all goes into the bin left-wing assholes I don't like him but I don't want to live in that world these people are even f****** cry all goes into the bin left-wing and that's when people go you know what trumps and assholes I don't like him but I don't want to live in that world these people are even f****** crazier and that is the great danger of re-electing him and the very well maybe do it

if you have to get out of here today so you got two hours I do cuz it's like a work night for me and it's my first week back up tell people when is it when's the new season air Friday this Friday the 17th of January same bat Time same bat Channel HBO at 10 Eastern and I guess you can figure out the other time zones from that and we're going to go back at it again talk about plenty to talk about always see Congratulations by the way I'm making this such a big stop and such an iconic place you did good thank you thank you I don't know what the fuk happened I didn't know who he was have you ever seen the face up face swap version that he doesn't view on Instagram the point it doesn't matter the point was what was the point appointment there's not too many people talking over each other on your show correct eye feels like it is to me it's very difficult to have a conversation when there's so many different people talking that's such a fundamental criticism of my show pretty closely of course when you have a panel which we do there can be those moments but we don't book that kind of person and that kind of show it's not the old let's get them fighting thing we don't want that and honestly the number of times when people have been shouting upreach other and you can hear them is very little it's not even that the shouting over each others that you have a point do you want to talk about something you got to let it roll mid show guests to my left and we'll be a one-on-one you know I do a one-on-one twice in the show is in the shop in the middle of the show I bring out more of a celebrity usually to my left I was exhausted one show of my so I'm not saying one more what I'm saying is I'd like you to do it because I think you'd be good and I like listening to you and you'd be to my left one-on-one it would be nobody shouting of you cuz they wouldn't be involved okay so you wouldn't have that problem so will you do it yes great all right and then we'll work out anyway because I think you'd be good and I like listening to you and you'd be to my left one-on-one there would be nobody shouting of you cuz they wouldn't be involved okay so you wouldn't have that problem so will you do it yes great all right and then we'll work

do you like the the middleman between the cartel and you know whatever Saudi arms dealer and just like we can't sell you stuff in the piers f****** 16 billion dollars with the actress El Chapo love the Mexican actress and he was like I want to meet her so I want that s*** so bad I would love to meet like Kim Jeong Hoon put his fist in people's faces and talking s*** and in that one is good his hand out he's going to shake hands

series or something along those lines I'm absolutely convinced most of these guys believe what they say and I made maybe they're bullshitters at the start or they only partially believe but they they repeat their rhetoric their followers getting a positive reinforcement take time to believe it and you know David koresh he was willing to die for his beliefs and he also was having sex and his ex-girlfriend grew up in one of these sort of religious cults and it was the same deal that had guy was having sex with all the women and you know he would have sex with different people's wives and everybody had to let him I don't know if you ever read. Jon Jon krakauer's book under the banner of Heaven this is the guy that does the mountain climber that did Into Thin Air and and and the the one about the Alaskan kid anyway he wrote this book called under the banner of Lori from The New Yorker something many realize this takes him down the path of this incredible world of polygamy would still goes on now legally is not legal but they marry one and then the others are so-called Sister Wives and they're just there and they live on these in these border towns along the border between Colorado and Utah like Colorado City and all that I've been through some of these places it's liked it sophina going all the way back to the founding of the religion and Joseph Smith and you know he gets this Revelation from God that well basically he's banging the woman down the street he's married and so he gets this Revelation from God and this scenario in the book where he says I have to marry this bye-bye have to start seeing other guys no no God was very specific about this is just for the guide and I know you talked to get one of my buddies they were there they heard it also and this is the first page of the Book of Mormon is an affidavit these are the people that heard the Revelation and that they all sign it and it's like okay so this is how it starts why did this isn't even like it they're bad people when you 14 years old you are a developing entity your frontal lobe not fully-formed you don't really know what you did practicing sentences exert your influence he was in trouble with the law and other issues and then he got in trouble there he was killed and Sansa cult when the leader dies now there's that there's a ton of it there's a critical. If you get a new Dynamic leader to take over like in the case of Scientology David miscavige took over after El Ron Hubbard passed over to the other side and he managed to keep a world religion and they just went to Utah to get away from federal authorities know how much of a hit is Scientology taking from that Leah Remini saved I'm not seeing any data like a memberships and they're all secret about that anyway it's Brighter Day to so who knows I can't imagine they could survive while they could survive cuz I have tons of money through real estate Investments but I can't imagine their numbers or could be doing anything but ranking than the HBO documentary that's really that's really the only the best way to do it not top-down laws against cult unless you're doing something obviously illegal but just bottom up members speaking out his dad on as well just it is very strange that the United States government is allowing those people to be tax-exempt I mean with all I know it's available go and look at what they're proposing and what they believe in the thetans and the frozen's entities that are dropped into the volcano but they're the only major organization I've ever seen that beat the IRS and they did it through thousands of lawsuits I think I stood him like 3,500 times or something that they had every single member that they could get to do it right as well they were getting all their members to Sue at they were so angry I was a story I really don't think any relationship with what we know about reality old Voodoo superstitious nonsense not have to pay taxes and exert extreme power politically socially or economically it's crazy I'm from religion foundation and some of these other organizations ACLU or you know trying to combat some of this but but legally how do you distinguish that from say a nonprofit like Doctors Without Borders one of these other groups Foundation mostly expenses yeah well Supreme Court then they have a problem is where do you draw the line by do you cuz somebody says well I have a goofy believe the Jane's have some weird beliefs or something but you know but there but their man in the soup kitchens are helping the poor and there's no corruption what to do between them and the scientologists to say hey religious beliefs that do you sound goofy but unit us their true what's the difference will the Mormons are fascinating to me because they do seem goofy when you look at the idea that Joseph Matthew was a fourteen-year-old found golden tablets that contain the Lost work of Jesus and only he could read them cuz he had a magic searstone right and then when the the local townspeople came to see what where are these Stones all the Angels came and took them away because I did not believe it it's so Preposterous but Christians no longer consider them a call because they're pretty far out but most mainstream Christian said yeah yeah they're Christians accept Jesus as their Club but I think the way they deal with community each other it's like a very very warm and friendly and family environment and most of Mormons and I've met that are practicing have been very nice people poor people about this like capital gains on California so if you sell your house and make a profit you got to give 10% of that to turn I just your income is your paycheck. Yeah and they're pretty pretty strict about that as far as I know mostly goes for good causes that really does help poor people

everyone's mad about everything like Donald Trump has everyone's mad the picture I swear on CNN words like I was literally like that is Donald Trump afraid of stairs would like the Chiron the lower third but to me I'm like that's why it goes back to the fact is I think this is important component to maybe making you understand what happened a little bit better cuz you're not in the in that ecosystem but I think you can relate because you're seeing it happen elsewhere is that the gaming media is dying and they're dying because no one really trust or cares trust them or cares what they have to say anymore people in 10 year old and 15 year olds today or not which is why the only people unanimously pretty much that came out in my defense were YouTubers because they know that their the next rung of this evolution of the way we absorb in and communicate and absorb information and have news to me while these people to your point already clickbait trying to stay relevant but no one really cares what they're saying anyway so they're in their death throes this is a way for them to take shots in multiple people at the same time contact yes and PewDiePie and I had fewer than 10,000 Twitter followers and I'm ready for a site no one reads and I'm trying my hardest to stay relevant and to do my thing I'd be pretty mad too if I saw a guy that turns on his camera and speaks whatever he wants and get the amount of views in 30 minutes and I'll get the entire year the idea that anybody's views is somehow or another taking away from your views is just straight famine mentality is plenty of lies to go around your showing it right now with your your new project sure but I'm just like that I'm just saying thought process sucks you worship on television is actually starting to be outpaced by YouTube so that's over now right to video online or video on demand that's just YouTube and so people are looking at the situation and actually precipitating it happening quicker because they lie million subscribers and he's a millionaire just be clear I've never I don't really know him very well I think I've had one or two communicate with him at some point but I don't know once I don't have a horse in the race he lives in England I think he's Swedish or something of that nature but he lives in England and he has a mass of you two following every video he does will have 10 12 15 million views as is his right and the thing that really caught on was that he was using this this app or this this this article fiber which is this kind of taskrabbit kind of thing where it's like you can pay people to do whatever you want and he paid some of the things he did were otherwise what he paid these guys and some country to hold up these like death to all Jews signs or something like that as part of a joke and tasteless a lot of people and this combined with some other imagery had been using some like kind of fascist or Nazi imagery and some other things I've been going on over the months and so this newspaper 1 cm in all this has been quite a lot of personal and economic destruction for the intent of what he was trying to do especially with telling people to not be Nazis he was like mocking people that were being Nazis and they use that to say this guy is pretending to be a Nazi punching up now on YouTubers but really cause a lot of silarius on a YouTuber your punching up to attack him cuz he's the king cuz he's the media Elite I mean that's the media elite mean it's like an independent reporter attacking the middle ABC news or something like that and it showed a lot of cowardice it showed a lot of half-cocked thinking on their on the back on them showed a level an egg using this word because I don't think innately it's necessarily a bad thing that they could drive you forward to this at the level of jealousy that play with a lot of these kind of struggling to get 10,000 views and a story they write is going to look at a guy like this that can do one video where he talks about farts and he makes you know his 7 million views or something like that I don't get this but I'm not going to like sit here in like rain on their parade that's their right have an audience that's totally fine maybe look at yourself and why you don't have an audience may be able to yourself and realize that you've been doing this for so long you're so proud of that why isn't anyone listening to you could it be you you know instead of instead of looking around for people to assassinate which is what basically Happening Here my where you are now is just lost and a lot of it has to do and that's what I was saying with media precipitating the Fall by not telling the truth by not doing the right thing I think the media in terms of pullet politics residences really rebounding from the fact that they thought Clinton was going to win today. They can get away with saying and doing anything for that means to an end the Donna brazile thing for instance where she was feeding questions to the Clinton campaign is so incredible so it shows such a level of why isn't systemic inherent bias they don't they're going to get away with all that stuff I don't know what's going on with I know he could be a f****** Manchurian Candidate you know but I don't believe a word they say to listen to people like you to listen to people even Alex Jones listen to Dave Rubin to Listen to Problem it's the race for clicks is the race for money as the race for prominences the race for relevance and not honesty not transparency and not a real objective sense of what the truth is and what it would the actual facts of a story are that's where journalism is a different thing now because it's now a entertainment show it's an entertainment show that also has the news in it but that's why the women are so hot that's why the women on Fox news or wearing these tiny little dresses and they have beautiful legs and heels on they're talking about important issues but they're giving you a little bit and I candy while they're doing it weird growth. Where where we have this incredible access to information and the ability to spread it like we have now with with social media on with YouTube and all these different things were anybody can kind of hop in and all sudden get a platform like this Pewdiepie Pewdiepie wasn't a star it wasn't a politician and you wasn't an actor before this you just got up and he connected with people and carved out this path for himself and pretty pretty much anybody can kind of do that now I mean there's it's not easy it's not okay if it was easy everyone would do it but not insurmountable and I wonder what the next stage is an in terms of the building share information if it's going to change password or it's at now and get to some new level yeah I think I think you're right in the sense that the internet specifically had taken off so quickly the World Wide Web you know is only 24 years old internet way older but the way we communicate with each other now is so different than even HughesNet in the 80s or these kind of university University Communications that they had going on the seventies where they were sharing example you don't need Gatekeepers anymore there are no Gatekeepers you can go start a YouTube channel Now find an audience gain thousand subscribers make a lot of money and say what you want and that's scary to the traditional Gatekeepers and they don't like it and they're get there if they're fighting after the so transparent and it's so self-serving when I don't we need a meeting that we can trust but I don't think we need the media as it is right now either because the media we have right now is bloated dishonest partisan political Ian and motivated I don't we need a meeting that we can trust but I don't think we need the media as it is right now either because the media we have right now is bloated dishonest partisan political Ian and motivated all the things that don't really serve a purpose to educating and informing some of the days of Cronkite are gone

bubble in the video game industry with these people that are predominantly left-wing and predominantly Progressive look what I say Progressive Progressive is kind of a dirty word now it is coming anymore those things are like ideologies the people subscribe you in a very very rigid way what did you find was an issue when people found out about your extreme understanding and respect for the history of the United States we have like not all my ideas are radical or even outside of the mainstream socially I'm probably further to the left then maybe people the legalization of prostitution I'm for a lot of these things that are very far to the left socially that we probably could find some agreement on somewhere and we can work on those things and get those things done together because I say also like hey the income taxes predatory add this one thing that we have a problem with now we're going to make it clear about that issue when it comes to small-government like you wanting small-government what's the opposition to that what do they say but they even look at that at the push too far on the on the system with you I'm trying my hardest is is that they you have to agree with them lockstep right they see you in one way that is that is is injurious to their cause or two that is conflicting or contrary to what they believe they do not give a f*** about anything else you believe people really were running me out on a rail out of the gaming industry with I told you everything you need to know about the the intent that they don't they don't want allies in different ways the Allied in different clothes they want just they just want complete you know it's very well they just want you to be completely like them if you're not like them they don't want anything to do with you at all but we've turned a corner where in many ways the right is more tolerant than left to variations in their ideology where is the right is much more tolerant to people that support gay marriage the right is much more tolerant to people that you fill in the blanks is a bunch of different rights that the right would sort of except from someone who also voted Republican the left isn't like if you got to the point where I like I got a heated argument with someone wants about abortion which I'm pro-choice but I was saying well essentially what else criticism of a Richard Dawkins Voorhees comparing a human embryo to a pig fetus or Pig embryo whatever get there with the terms used but I'm like let's ridiculous cuz one of them is going to become a person if you don't take it out of your body that was the idea behind it like you can't you can't use that sort of an analogy because it's not true I mean just one has the potential for being a person I was being accused of being right wing because of it life like a pig embryos never going to be my neighbor Mike and I was just playing but that baby I'm not saying you should be forced to make that baby a person and keep anybody when it's a few cells and then two weeks old and then I'm not saying that you can't choose when to terminate your pregnancy what I'm saying is your terminating a pregnancy we both know what you're doing I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to do it but you pretended it's not messy and nobody wants it to be messy nobody wants to be naked issue they wanted to be cut and dry if you're on the left in particular it's pro-choice woman's reproductive choice that freedom of your body to do what you want I get all that I'm 100% with you but let's let's not lie about what it is because as soon as we as soon as we distort the reality of what the thing is then we put up his ideological boundaries and blinders and we make communication very difficult and we make these rigid ideologies almost like a religion they are there almost like dog and when you do I put it when you do that you have a real problems because people can't communicate so if someone these are the things that I I forgot for so long in a way because I was riding bike games which I love I love games are important part of great but being able to engage with someone like yourself with someone like a Dave Rubin or someone like a Steven Crowder whoever might be I was on Glenn Beck's radio show last week but it brings out an energy me where am I picking finally engaged with people that know what the f*** they're talking about in this particular realm which I think is so exciting and so interesting and we can have you all we had we debated we don't agree on everything is awesome you found a very big positive out of this and you can interest and that's what I'm trying to do this is an opportunity for myself and try and use it as an opportunity to just carve out a little slice of the internet however big or small might be where we can affect some positive change and like an idea in your ideas and learning and free expression and free thought and making mistakes and disagreeing and all that I think it's all great I want to use this as an example I want to get away from the Orthodoxy of the gaming industry of stifling a strangling left-wing Progressive like no variations no room for debate why is that why I think it's it it portrayed it it's like it all gets funneled through a media that is that is hyper level right so it's it's similar in a way to the media in in news and politics these you know underneath the surface of the gaming industry are there plenty of conservatives and Libertarians they they hide they do a lot of them heads of Studios that feel the way I do I know people that are in the trenches at QA and doing like very menial things again soon as I feel the way I do everything between I remember to GDC game developer conference in San Francisco which Happens Every Spring six or seven years ago guy pulled me aside are speak out because they'll get lambasted in some way that would happen to me over something so innocuous will you push back about your ideas before this yes what what did you experience so every time I would write a politically-driven senior editor but I kind of had like editor-at-large quality meaning for be like 50000 word articles 15000 words there's a game that was cancelled maybe five years ago or so it was pretty late development so we're does cancel a game when they already spent too much money on it it was called six days in Fallujah and it was it was a third person shooter I think about the experience of Fallujah Iraq terrible conflict in there and people even on the right we're getting upset about it's too soon it's it's this is awesome this is so great that someone to tell a story like this evening and do something like that and you just get it from all sides people will be like you know it it's it's it's not sensitive it's it's it's is Jabra he made a mistake maybe exactly that's why I say like this was the moment the joke was the moment that they were looking to pounce really and I'm not saying that they were calculating everyone's waiting but they saw an opportunity and I took it because over time you lose respect over people where they remember that you said this group call me in an email now it's like I'm a Nazi I'm alright as long as I don't think I have one I think I've won all right all right means what is all right and I don't I don't know the image that you have alt-right characteristics you can see these four words that mean what about me 20 poster idea maybe 50 poster page and I was reading it and I heard some of it because people are like people telling me I said things I never said fish and blah blah blah I like counter nausea and he's a racist either so I think the soft races are soft bigots off trace of being like that he he doesn't he doesn't intentionally or actually over at least anything that supports causes that are racist or sexist feel and end things that I said or being taken out of context I often used in video games one of the big things is like you know there's a need for diverse casts the first protagonist some stuff like that and I often use the case that I used to use the saying I don't believe in diversity for diversity sake I believe that an artist should tell a story of an artist or writer and a game wants to have an all white cast and that's what he thinks took that out of context of her calling me a racist and a bigot and all these kinds of things and it's it's it's hurtful because there's no one there to make it worse so it was kind of like this hapless kind of situation I found myself in and I tried to make the best of it once about that with a friend who is an Asian actor and he was talking about the lack of roles for Asians in Hollywood and what a massive issue is and you know that he wanted to raise awareness of it I was like man but this is you were talking about a creative Venturi talk writing a story like I think the the correct way to go about it is try to figure out how to get your own project through or someone else who feels very strongly about this trying to get there on Project through but the right way is not for someone to have to compromise their Creative Vision in order to Encompass the full spectrum of races in whatever story their writing a creative story you want to write a story about a small town in Maine like Stephen King has done so often you shouldn't have to have 10% Asians in that story I mean that's not what creativity is about it's about a deer There Are Places and people and what you're going to run into all black folks or where you going to run into all Norwegian people I mean the dodo stores are just as valid as a story that's fully Devers you know I don't know I don't think that necessarily makes anything better and I also think that when you're talkin about that you're so you sort your sort of talking about it like there should be a quota you know and like in Hollywood should recognize the need for these people to be in films and movies and see you you're you're making this politically correct sort of passing these these judgments on this thing that is all about imagination I mean Hollywood essentially like what when you're making a television show or you making a movie is really about an imagination it's about imagination and vision and having that Vision being entertaining for people and if you like only want to write about the people that you were in college without you that you share a dorm room with you should be allowed to and if there's a disproportionate amount of people that are doing that happen to be white males that Nina we should probably try to figure out why but the idea that you have to force people to hire Asian folks or black folks or women or what teams are crazy to me project their Warsaw and it's based on diffusion of like polish kind of identity with this famous book series that they sound like kind of Polish War you know I kind of The Lord of the Rings but in Eastern Europe and 1 Guys cartoon character that works at this website called polygon review was talking about how there were no there was no diversity there nnn everyone's like Poland and it's based on one of your like and it's about dragons and like goblins and there's some white guys and this is like what you're upset about you know there's another guy making an Eddie Slovakia Kingdom Come deliverance and in this area in 15 I'm trying to make a game that's true to the era does that doesn't make him a racist and and these are the kinds of this is a kind of b******* like a black person in a game about Poland in the 1500 to whatever it was virtue signaling even knew what it meant until a few weeks ago around I didn't quite know what am I looking into it it's what it is we have to have black people in this game can in Disney be out but what they're saying when they when they when they're saying we have to have black people in this game in Eastern Europe in the 1500 what they're saying what they're really saying is you're racist

thank you so much pleasure is amazing will Dave Rubin recommends you listen to Dave room is a whole lot of people's recommendations but Dave rubin's one of them he's been an amazing figure my life is in the last lesson even a month and usually these kind of was like my savior when like everyone was kicking me while I was down he was the one that got to reach the hand out and so I owe him a great deal real simple joke James helium pull up the joke this is what happened Colin tweeted a joke about a day without a woman and everybody knows that a day would I want without a woman was like that day without a Mexican thing where you were supposed to like well imagine if there were no women well so yeah I would laugh everything was funny and I would move on and that's it so then go above that go above that above it send this tweet which was roundly condemned as sexist yet not really true if you leave the gaming industry but probably condemned in the gaming industry for sure outside of that people I mean normal everyday people that don't have an axe to grind about literally everything how did you know Reddit maybe Corona maybe laughing then kept going about their day like a normal person if you work for any kind of a company that is in any way public where you can be targeted where they can say all that's the f****** God go get them like anything that's remotely controversial and that is a really remotely controversial it's just Al Bundy put it up on some YouTube channel that's like that. Like my family forever ever I can't believe this this is so great by the way on Twitter stupid and she left yet she's at the ER nurse and she works the overnight shift so she was just getting in the padded as I was getting up and she's like gas when we didn't really think twice about it I sent that I got in the shower I went about my day and then when I got to work I realize I was a much bigger deal than I had thought and and it was and then everything fell apart and then we built very quickly so the straw that broke the camel's back for me yet why in the f*** man V I was just I I felt like how is it how is it possible that there's not a single man that would complain and if he did he's not a man I agree and I say also that if a person that wasn't a self-described like it also gotten a rash of s*** and been sort of I think maybe in a different maybe in a different place when not in the gaming industry which is almost completely hyper liberal so I've had a Target on my back for years and that's kind of the point that the lost on some people is that this was just an opportunity no one was offended by this joke no one was a gas like I said I have person study them in a lab but to me I was like no this is I mean it was Cruz clear a few hours later when I finally realized what's happening with this is there in for the kill now this is this is they found their way to get me and why do you think they wanted to get you because I was born and raised San Francisco and it is as cartoonishly liberal as everyone thinks it is so it's it's the gaming industry is there the gaming media right about the engine cover them in and do all that kind of stuff there but they're largely there and it's a huge Echo chamber they don't like when people penetrate the echo chamber and I made a name for myself and entry over years I was a senior editor of the biggest Gaming website in the world for years and there and I made a name for myself not only with criticism in with long-form pieces but but but basically it's in 2011 and 2012 people going after game developers this is an okay this character assassination a good example for everyone out there doesn't know games there's a game called Borderlands 2 and one of the developers was giving an interview about it he was back in 2011 he said something to the nature of this mode that particular mode in the game is accessible for everyone it's like a girlfriend mode if you want your girlfriend to come pet play this was like a he said by using the term girlfriend and I wrote this piece saying like what the hell is everyone doing this guy is trying to explain something he's not a sexist why do you make these assumptions based on this one thing about him and why do you want to ruin someone and that's the whole thing they want to ruin people so I was outspoken about this and I would have spoken for my support of Mitt Romney and all that book about my support for Johnson in my house so they don't like that they don't like that stuff and and and I think that's pretty clear now so you feel like there's a sort of a reinforced type of thinking like a very liberal reinforced type of thinking that you must subscribe to if you want to be a part of this yes it's an orthodox it's a complete and utter Orthodoxy and it's it's it's kind of nice about this like the unintended consequence that I think it's the silver lining of the Dark Cloud is people from the outside now saw firsthand like what I have been saying for a long time which was which was like I was kind of On The Fringe I was kind of being pushed out and I got that literally thousands of people tweeny I mean Facebook message this is f****** crazy these people really are out to get you based on that you know you would think I died I said some horrible just defensive just truly awful thing do you think they're really out to get you or do you think they're capitalizing on a moment where they feel like you have a Target on you and they like him he's down we got them and but this reaction culture that we have like this over over-reaction culture that we find herself in today it really does seem to Foster that kind of behavior that people really like it when someone gets caught doing something or what said something inappropriate when you can just point the finger and then everybody can pylon yeah I think you're probably right in a sense I never gain the benefit of the doubt Austin flag is my Twitter I kind of had that first since 2009 and flag being don't tread on me the snake then other people in the industry and I think that I definitely think of that tweets will make you very economical with your worst something really long tool for that but not if that's a little ridiculous that's cuz you only I don't know if that's the case how it is now but well actually it definitely is right like if I write to you if I reply to you your name takes up a big chunk of what I tweet right you but you what you tweet doesn't take up so it's like 240 characters would be limiting people that respond to you rather than you tweeted unless you're whatever they were images used to take up characters to and then in videos and links I think the links are the only thing left that takes up the extra characters in addition to the name but he keeps everyone Kurt she was waiting by the by the window to scold me for this and I like that what the hell is going on between out if you tweet about that just for posterity longer s*** hey that's a loophole don't do that don't do that all the time people like going in Photoshop make a paragraph of a text and then make that the image that you would take a picture of it yeah that's exactly mean in writing it's very difficult to me even if you're reading a book sometimes you have to go over the previous paragraph to figure out exactly how this guy was setting this up but I think what's it what's happening what you're saying I see there's two parts one before about the guy saying that it's like girlfriend mode if he just said it's like safe your girlfriend does video games and she wants a really easily accessible you can do it that way but I would say it's I'm going to die on that Hill because I feel like people deserve the benefit of the doubt people deserve to make a mistake or get a joke wrong are you know all those kinds of things and I feel like yes people are allowed to exercise their free speech on the other energy like I don't like that joke or I don't like this or I don't like that but it doesn't stop there with what's going on with Dave Chappelle this week was really actually interesting with his two specials on Netflix people are freaking out about me or his jokes has his jokes about gay people the amount saying that it's ridiculous comparison and or Daniel Tosh that's like where I am because I was reading a piece specifically about Chappelle weather like this close-up questions as to why I like how far should comedy go and people like it I understand what they're trying to do because when they live in that world of cubicles and human resources and very stricted patterns of behavior that you have to follow if you live in an office environment and work in an office environment rather you know there's a lot of people out there that are boxed into these terrible situation we have to pretend to be this thing that you're not and again you don't have any personality you. You're not allowed to say anything ridiculous or silly and when you you have that kind of environment and you see someone was free like Dave Chappelle you you want to stop it if you can if you can point something out that can look he's saying something that's in a pro you saying something I don't agree with you saying something let's get let's go get them and then also in defense of the writers that are writing his articles look there in a bizarre environment where they have to f****** constantly defend like their position they have to constantly get clicks this consoling get hits they did Canton put an article out nobody reads it they'll lose their job so they have to write about something that's inflammatory right about something that's salacious something's going to get excited I mean that guy that wrote that thing about you for the international business times I looked into that international business times in one of things about it is that there was a I think was a Mother Jones article about that website where they were told like that the people who write articles were given some ridiculous tasks like they have to get 10,000 hits per article there I'm right so that might have four people don't know there was a guy who wrote an article about Colin where it said kind of funny Colin Moriarty was mine's after writing a joke a racist joke the targeted women wasn't racist even remotely in the slightest but when you take into account the environment that these people forced to work in and you say well this guy literally is forced to write something that's more f***** up than it really is so you have to get people excited about this in a way that's going to get them to click on it and hopefully get him to his 10,000 hit quote if that is true I feel for him in a way he's worth shity business you know right but it's the same way I feel like I actually came from the editorial world we have to get clammy we get our expectations are way higher and you have those kind of requirements there are a couple of examples where I wouldn't write a story because I felt like it was important to any information and it was specifically to assassinate someone character to what I was actually interviewing her that she never would want the victim of sexism in Industry ever and that was and I was like I I could write this isn't why I was there I was interviewing about this problems and that's not who I am and people appreciating her work would not be celebrated have to be in some ways Target like why is that story at Target but wouldn't you assume that if there is a person who can reach a high-level prominence in in this very complicated business right when the gaming industry is incredibly complicated especially how weighted everything is when it comes to male versus female stuff that whole gamergate s*** expose so much which was really confusing people in the outside supposed to be like me you don't play game right I was like what the f*** are people involved in a sort of a dispute that makes that person appear to be a sex that you supposed to pylon piling on me remaining silent that got freelance work because of me that got maybe even got hired because of the hiring committee that put me a push for them to take out to lunch I know who you are whether or not they agree with what you said or agree with what you do but they know you're who you are and they know the severity of what people are saying and they don't say anything that really wounds person and that really f****** hurt do you think that what's going on in a lot of ways when people did not come to your defense is that what you're doing and in many ways is making a very complicated and nuanced perspective from person and you're in your stance you're kind of you're taking this this this path outside of the ideology and by doing so you sort of challenge a lot of the ways these people have been behaving for a long time and as soon as you do that they have to kind of reconsider these ideological boundaries they've set up in their own behavior and thinking and communication and that they don't want to do that and they didn't want to do that like to keep things rigid and simple and they also want to continue to progress in career and in order to do that you have to kind of like have this predetermined pattern that you follow I think simple is the keyword that use Simple because yes they can't there people out there that cannot comprehend how a person who believes in small government for instance will use the same argument that says that the government can't touch my guns that's consistent with saying the government can't tell them what to do with her body I don't want to be able to marry woman and I would go as far as to say that even as totally on the up-and-up everyone's in on a relationship should not be when they feel like it's the right that's not figure out how that might be is always been real real fasting, and now that you've left your company which was what was it called kind of fun out of it was kind of funny kind of funny was the four of us founded the company were all at IGN in different respects and I'll respond to just start our own YouTube channel about games and their culture and stuff like that do podcasts everybody but once that how could you not they turned on you over that stupid f****** joke stupid joke this impasse again so I was like let's just pull the Band-Aid off and get the kids over with are you going to do something involves politics now but clearly you have a deep passion for this new YouTube channel that April 3rd is called Colin's Last Stand thousand a month people are talking people are responding to this holy s*** that's not a f****** money 39 Grand a month somite my my expectations were blown out of the water and I really would I read it in the show is is is you know people are just sick of this b******* this is them this is them speaking and being like we need a conduit that's going to get into the history of the flossing the politics but also that will stand up and say like I'm not sorry for a joke people of the right to make mistakes people have the right to express themselves fly the flag on their door and pull it off and call in a race I'm just going to shake my head and walk away because there are other things to worry about people that like one more Liberty focused individual Focus kind of things and that's just people speaking to me you know

did you get in trouble would you just so I did that with a v it's clear as day that he was being sarcastic and so talking to David Duke Grand wizard of the KKK and he's like he said to David Duke of course you're not thank you about you were doing Friday specials yesterday New York City was 68° yes like what in the f*** is going on then he's like I feel bad cuz I feel so happy cuz like seasonal depression you know it's sunny on 68° opt-in dishonest media is that it opens the door for honest media like you and independent guys like yourself like Pac-Man kolinsky easy the New York Times is horrible it really matters there for every war there for every war their repeaters how do we get into a wreck that got Judas Miller too uncritically put the whatever Dick Cheney told her on the front page that's why they held a balloon them to front page of the New York Times and then Dick Cheney shoot Dick Cheney tells you they have aluminum tube she printed on the front page of the New York Times Dick Cheney then goes on Meet the Press inside look even the New York Times who's after that you got rewarded does that and then there's probably also access to candidates access to top official access journalism if you don't give them what they want and I'll give you access and this is sort of the candidate they've always played right that's exactly right back that they have access and they an enemy of the democratic party because he'd she wants to get money out of politics so that's his big thing as Wolfpack and his whole thing is I don't take corporate money and that Justice Democrats they don't take one person at this whole thing is about getting money out of politics and they want keep money in box cuz their whole grift is over

I'm always afraid I'm going to say something ridiculous and ignorant which I do offer yeah me too ridiculous to have a free-flowing conversation like you and I didn't even talk on the phone before this week we want to talk about Jimmy I don't know Brian is leading the wave in New Media like what are you talkin about been doing this for 15 years itches and it's what the fuk good numbers on his podcast but it doesn't do as good as like Dax Shepard or me or any of the people that are at the top of the Heap Listen to Korn Brian to podcast because you know I've got anything else to do but he's interviewing famous people yeah it's the same b******* and it's not their heart and then you do this other thing it's f****** covered you aren't breaking any new guy was crazy that had there was a New York Times headline joke yeah yeah and it was funny too yeah I got tagged on it so many times am I going to comment because I can't he's a nice guy he seems like a very nice people I feel bad when I go after them on Twitter but he Hollywood mentality it on the left right and this Hollywood is that all bad things started in January 17th they have no idea how we got there so he's tweeting out this stuff about how Trump is that has the cognition of an eight-year-old right because he wants to do more crimes and so I want to hear can you believe this guy and like since I was born why you acting like this same value toward criminal she has the exact same that's the cognition of a f****** the first lady to talk about technician how we f****** got here and you're smarter than that Andy Richter and that's why I hold his feet to the fire I know he's a nice guy but he gets locked into that team he took her from two Wars to 7 which is why he had a piece price at a f****** kill list. Maybe it's underneath my peace prize and use it as a paperweight kind of ironically anyway these are the things that I try to focus on Joe by the way I was right about all of them is like you are a left-wing God that's willing to criticize the left and for some well that seems to be a problem Habbo thing I didn't want to talk about the way you can't respond so I found out that the people who want to make it to the Democratic party or not allowed to come to my shows who was involved in Democratic politics anything about who they are in trouble and so she came to my show and she goes you know this other person who's climbing in the Democratic party was supposed to come with me and at the last minute she didn't and I called her if they want you coming she goes you know if I Jimmy Dore show my career the Democratic party's over you racist piece of s*** I can tell can you tell Jamie I can tell the Democratic party's over I can tell by your accent is racist piece of s*** I can tell can you tell Jamie I could tell and I'm like that

we just got done making fun of Bob has he got in trouble for making fun of Elizabeth Warren dancing didn't get in trouble. World artistic college student Laurie get to talk for the first time yeah yeah yeah so clunky how do you formulate this sentence did you really feel this then in it who do you think's going to believe that the people who are going to believe this but they already like you most of the people are going to see right through this thing so it was just to me it's like you know it's a schizophrenic message from people like that was Elizabeth Warren's Defenders it's like well women anything except take a joke I want dance watch your death let's watch that video Elizabeth Warren dance if you're not making fun of that you're out of your f****** mind if there is a thing to make fun of why do white people think this is dancing by the way you ever noticed that George Bush dancing whenever I move and then and then she does this to I think Ellen made to be may do that I don't know Elon Musk to 2 to see when the alarm took his jacket off to have a good time how dare you it's okay you're she's onstage trying to get something from people and she thinks this will get it for her here we go so oh no that would Ono doing this looks like her back is welded like I saw one piece and I'm not going to accuse a Native American applying I'm just not going to go there for you she is 1/1000 Native American so that's that's real that's a real number so it made my b2000 out there like falling off if I was his friend I be like bro you got to work on your posture we got to get you some spinal decompression gain some yoga classes you're going to eat your head going to fall on you meet him he's taller than you think right that's right used to be up here I thought for sure I was going to be taller than him when I met him

I thought Chris Hedges was going to be 6 by when I met him and he's saying hi is it normal if you met Chris Cuomo Fredo alfredo the idea that he thought that he could pass it off and he knew they were filming how do you not know it's like is it really guess what about being Italian there's no word for us there's no work for us you can call me again e you call me to grease balls like okay doesn't work right now in My Grandfather's Day to talk to my grandfather because Italy have you told me all the horrible s*** kids in school would say to him all the horrible ship peanut least ye guineas back then were they were they were talked to like trash immigrants like they were they wanted them to go home they didn't want them there and there was a lot of dispute between the Irish and the Italians and the way a lot of racist people think of Mexicans like they're coming over here to take her home she has become of their infesting our neighborhood with their smells food in there they want to talk their language like my grandparents always spoke Italian in the house Irish and they talked about how the no Irish need apply all that stuff and then I mean that's what it's just there's waves of the right and now the wave is you know Mexicans are the scapegoats but you know there's that documented they did a while back a day with no Mexicans Russian say we live in this podcast doesn't really rely on an illegal immigrant but a lot of industries were lying illegal immigrants and it's it's a f***** up situation to be in for them because they really don't have a path to become legal even if they've been proved right for decade after decade of viable contributing part of our culture because they got over here legally even take him over here as a child and we can't we can't let you stay to know and that's another thing you know the immigration they've been scapegoated sense as far as I can remember Bill Clinton so Bill Clinton if you go back to C-SPAN videos of him saying Mexicans coming here taking our jobs and all that stuff he did all that stuff and Hillary Clinton she bragged that you voted for border wall barriers offense in some places it's cheap Brad used to brag about it comes along and turns it up another notch I-20 of course it is but what I'm saying is he's building off of a bunch of s*** that. Friends have been rocks just like when they tweeted out those so you find out this is what I say and all the Muslims at the airport then you find out why are they at the airport I'd be honored they were gassed by the lesser of two evils so there is the Silver Lining and it's finally starting to come out because the the Democrats have run this russiagate to that it's a good. They did the Mueller report it's over he concluded there is no collusion over so now they moved out to impeachment but now he's bombing so they're finally starting to talk about the War Powers Act Ukraine to investigate his political provide jobot aren't really that upset that makes sense because they think that he's not presidential because he debunked it like a good reporter supposed to do what he he always makes a point that Trump is not a suitable Steward of imperialism and they think he puts an ugly face on the ship we've been this is what I would Trump what's an ugly face on the stuff we've been doing all along so now people are going to be more aware of it and we would have been more aware of it if the Democrats would have actually opposed them on substance instead of Russia Gates he says things like when he when he was talking about back Daddy that he died like a dog and you'll like what are you allowed to say that I die like a dog or how about this is the weird thing that he uses Twitter to threaten other countries like we was talking about Iran that and if they respond they will we will respond it in / happening is proportionate manner you using Twitter to threaten nobody ever thought that there was going to be the sort of a venue for president to just just have mouth diarrhea and that's why they believe that's a big reason why a lot of the establishment wants to get rid of them because he makes them look bad because they agree with his policies that Democrats just gave him everything he wanted they pay for his f****** border wall they gave expanded spying Powers they gave him the Democrats just gave him everything he wanted they pay for his f****** border wall the game of expanded spying Powers they gave him a x231 billion to go bomb people's they help fast-track is judges they f****** also helped him deregulate walls through what the f*** aren't they doing for him and that's why we have Donald Trump

Dan Hernandez Emma Watson she'll not worth a hundred million dollars anymore that's right in Congress well your criminal that's that's what Truman said if you're in Congress that wouldn't be legal if you were a regular citizen I know that there's rules that I sent a regular citizen but if you were like working for a corporation is Rule like they are allowed to get information and influence in terms of like how the investment explosive made all that money and I was like if I watch this f****** think I'm going to stay up all night because it was one of those why I can't watch anymore this yeah well you have a hundred millionaire is the leader of the people's party hats make that money what do you do do you make cars why do you think Nancy Pelosi impeach Trump George Bush I don't know was told 2002 that our government was torturing people and she was a pleasant person in a position of power and the reason why the Republicans and George Bush Administration did that was so now they've got Democrats complicit in the crimes and so she didn't tell anybody about it she didn't want investigation she can blow the whistle on this so now she's complicit so when George Bush went on the Republicans lose the house and she becomes leader and they going to impeach him she goes impeachment off the table and nobody can figure it out but nobody puts around cuz we were just so glad we had a I checked on George Bush at that time well Julian Assange then reveals there's a there's the memo that shows that she was briefed in 2002 under torture program which makes her completion and torture because she didn't do a goddamn thing about it did you see the interview that I do with their butt Snowden these cell phones please have access to your data and can spy on you and use it the government can use cellphones and all sorts of telecommunications Insight essentially a video your your voicemail emails all that s*** all that all that s*** can can get spy through and there was a it was very complicated like I don't I don't remember the exact thing that I don't remember the exact scam like but Pelosi was involved in it Gmail emails all that s*** all that all that s*** can can get spy through and there was it was very complicated like I don't I don't remember the exact thing that I don't remember the exact scam like but Pelosi was involved in it there you go I mean they're all corrupt

one and would live gentleman dr. Neil Riordan my saying that right yes sir and Mel Gibson how are you sir you know he was 92 and not any was doing all the old man stuff you know his hip was killing him and he was like he had he had multiple problems I mean I won't get into the whole Litany of complaints but hey you know your engine starts wearing out you got to replace the carburetor in a few other things I took him to the Mayo Clinic great place if I ever get into serious trouble that's where I'm going and they were fantastic there but they were able to say a early. Be dead in 48 hours of my vote so they they clocked every problem that he had everything from you know the prostate to the to the hip to the kidneys to the heart to the lungs you know the whole deal and he stabilized medical procedures all allowed which country and they were great but you know I still had reservations about him getting hip replacement cuz he was old and of course just the recovery from a traumatic surgery at that age is like it's a big deal and I thought what can I do with my brother adult stem cells Hannibal Lecter assholes or something but I was like okay we'll look into it so we did and of course A buddy of mine who was that who is a Mayo doc he should stay away from those which doctors down in Panama he said it's like leprosy and banana boats and three legged dogs you know when am I going to come we call him and so so Brad and I got on the phone to Neil and who else was it so they're talkin highfalutin terms medical all day medical as you know they sort of they know what a mesenchymal stem cell are mesenchymal how do you say it you know so when we hang up translate what does all that mean he's like he translated a few things he's pretty good you know I think we called you right back and we spend another hour on the phone and look at it but it was all relevant to what had and you know for the heart heart problems and kidney problem orthopedic problems and he read all the Articles any red. The upside the downside and and and then then we had it to his credit then we had a very educated talk at conversation yeah they took him into the hospital he was 92 and they said what medications are you on these said I'm not an Indian they said you're 92 years old how do you account for not being on any medications is because I stay away from doctors and hospitals have a rough trip right now they're clinical trials gone in the US but it's not broadly available and in Panama they passed a law in 2004 which allowed us and allow doctors actually to go down there to be able to treat people with using adult stem cell so the bill was actually designed to prohibit the use of embryonic stem cells and in this at the in the same law they said it's okay to use adult stem cells including those from umbilical cord basically from ethical sources and sew in Panama date gave us we have a license from the Ministry of Health to manufacture and use those cells in addition to doing clinical trials there so it's it's one place on the planet where you can get really high-quality umbilical cord these this type of cell the two major kind of stem cells mainly work with and finding us on the internet and they go and then they brought him down to get to take him because the last thing you want is Mel did Mel Gibson's dad to drop that in your clinic come down there privately then we we did some IVs on in first in the clinic and then to do the hip we need to do that so we give the umbilical cord these are these are isolated from the the basically the the meat of the umbilical cord there I slide then they're grown our laboratory which is you know ISO 9001 and very high quality certified by Ministry of Health they're grown in the laboratory and their certified to be in a free of everything and in-kind infectious disease and and clean rooms and to make it put on like hats and gloves if you feel like all Frankenstein doubt you walk of these cold rooms and you're watching cells divide under the microscope is kind of miraculous really look at this and normally what they do is they they modulate your immune system they decrease inflammation and they stimulate regeneration so and the good thing about them is they tend to home to areas where there is information so intravenously they do a lot of things and but they can home to areas of inflammation and and they they really reduce inflammation in the body because they upregulate part of your immune system that that controls the inflammatory process so I can talk more about it later but in his case you know his kidneys were in trouble his heart was in trouble and the cells date they don't unlike what we used to think in the early days they don't become anything these kind of this kind of stem cell does not come become anything in your body but it home stereos of that need repair and it secretes things that stimulates the repair and decrease the inflammation and helps out with the immune system so what we treat are autoimmune diseases and miv so that that he could basically have these things on board secreting the secretion of cytokines in the in the growth factors that are normally secreted and when you're 92 and you have multi organ failure you're basically Running on Fumes and so you put these days gyro young healthy cells and they secrete these things that kind of restarts everything and so what was his response to this IV treatment wax lyrical about that he's almost a hundred years old and from pretty bad shape it was like bee stings it was like you got a new lease of life like you got a big dose locally in the hip Woodshop fixed all his inflammation and pain and he start walking again and his kidneys were good and his heart that he had a prolapsed Valves and there and they healed and his cognitive Powers improved his eyesight improved you know and other stuff improve that I he would hate me to talk about but he had two nurses that reported to me it was like holy mackerel back injuries and neck fusions and he said he got intravenous stem cells the way he described his life with his Dutch acted like it was like I have lightning coming out of my finger injuries and neck fusions and he said he got intravenous stem cells the way he described his life with his Dutch acted like it was like I have lightning coming out of my finger

all day Bridge Walk congratulations any Bellator fight now you look outstanding thank you thanks a lot of these really like licking man's really coming together huh. Finally the muscle Memories Back and I'm at a new camp it's great for my style train with Rafael Lovato Jr maybe the best American Grappler for BJJ was accomplished maybe he's fantastic. Oklahoma City how f****** convenient absolutely so now the Best of Both Worlds my two passions right there that's not the other guy I've ever felt claustrophobic yes I'll o'shaughnesy the whole that whole family of the style of Jiu-Jitsu so powerful man both of them no treatment with solo and then Shawn G was there in our corner so is pretty awesome for a Bellator fight and I was yesterday I was kind of bummed out well but he's been he's an animal honestly he's one of those guys that is so well-rounded and you think he's just one-dimensional because of everything is done in Jiu-Jitsu but he grew up kickboxing I don't yet dad's been a lifelong martial artist senior he's an incredible guy and he's been taking Rafael all around the world since he was a little boy having trained mixed martial arts not just Jiu Jitsu is a life Salvatore's making some moves man you know they're doing mitrione vs Fedor and they're going to Lorenz Larkin just sign with them Roy McDonald sign with them that's a stable now they have a legit at Lima how to pull out because it was kidney stone and then they're going to schedule Taughannock apparently but I think I think this car there their stacking it pretty heavily has been going down into andales a fight apparently apparently you're fighting he sent me a meme of something like let's train easy and vandalizing like yeah train easy but it's that picture of him in a private or something or maybe train were jumping in the air and just coming down with a big hammer Fist and you land on you with his feet yeah that's a light day he's kind of known for that being a barbarian 24/7 I flash back right away to do you remember whenever Stefan struve had to pull out of his fight with mitrione backstage and yeah yeah yeah but already taped up had his gloves on was hitting mitts and then there were some of the behind-the-scenes cameras that caught a moment where I believe was Danny coming back there telling the fight was cancelled and mitrione just was you know Dustin up a storm no way not at all no but then I'll send you saw shiftwear Ellison he was worried about Stephen and he walk down there went backstage or to his locker room and Mandy just hug them and Stephen was sobbing and Matt mitrione just like you hey it's alright bro I know if you could fight you would have and all the other stuff and so I guess he had passed at least one or two kidney stones to fight week couple days before weigh-ins and then the day of the fight they just aren't coming back out I think he had something 20 photo so man I know all the ladies out there you are your lot tougher than us giving birth but I hear this is the equivalent you know for the men is I doubt any stone I doubt it that's be like more like a passing a marble I call you know I doubt it has to be like more like a passing a marble that's a call you know

I don't know but I feel like memory when you told me that story about the monkey that you had that you had when you were on Fear Factor set of Newsradio like way back in the day was supposed to be in some stuff that I tell you this I probably said it before this little motherfuker was on my back and he hit me a couple times and I was stunned I was like oh no this is not what I thought it was a little person buy a full grown chimp okay well that's my argument with the Silverback vs Grizzly you said Grizzly because grizz's your motherfuking badass than a champ grizzly grizzly can't like there's no way that you can outrun a Grizzly there's no way in hell I don't know what is a Silverback full speed by the band Grizzly can outrun it's whatever what's the gorillas and I think a Grizzly can outrun a champ and I cry for me I think there's no way the gorillas getting f***** he's getting them telling you right now big ass interior know what your hands feel like when they Shake mine so I would be I guess I'm not like a Grizzly butt top speed that was it feels like 25 milk is dude I'd but I'm wiry it's actually a Wapiti Wapiti what is that it was that name come 5 heard it school named Wapiti Wednesday is a hashtag cammie's is a lot Wednesday told you so guess what I'm thinking it's just like an archery argument but there's not much of a difference in the speed it's real close and a grizzly bear is so much bigger moving so much more mass around like of a big Grizzly is 500 lb I'm pretty sure what is a big 190 is that not a mountain your name is like not the biggest one she's weird like brown bear sounds like by so cuddly and yeah Nature Made Them cool to look at so we don't mind as much that they're murderers I would argue Disney right like that Bambi movie that's a lot of people of a Silverback versus a grizzly about grizzly bears and brown bears that were listening yeah they were there they're pumped I think that they're all dangerous and ferocious and Lincoln Silverback versus the nigras you think you would win podcast what we need to know what people want to know I wouldn't want to fight a 38 lb rat ratman you should have said 3048 how much you can get it no way if you're not wearing welding gloves talk to you about Garfield you're talking like I don't know let's talk about a Conor McGregor Garfield at coming in at 10 like a real good tiger-cat like when you know it was those ones like real common house cat ones to look like a little picture this pic if you grabbed 10 lb mountain lion and he he's home outline and he saw a mountain lion when they was walking his dogs get these little cutie dogs is walking a little cutie dogs and he saw this f****** thing so its tail and picked it up pick the dogs up and then ran back to his house and then website website and found out that that they attract this animal and that it had a collar on it and the tracked it and it got hit by a car on the 5 and he's explaining like how the whole thing went down I was like well like you were walking your dogs in this big-ass lb + Cat so the actual cat that had a collar he knew because he died and when he found out the cat died he went and the sound of whiskey Ebro could bullying me sorry to my instinct super primate right the most super super but a bear is super super freak Predator animal freak out there Mount bear I just size of a 9 Pound rat was trying to kill you you would be freaking the f*** out who's running in your eyes like a little tiny bear you'd be f****** terrified of think of a giant one and realize help you you are totally defenseless and I don't think it's going to be that much difference for gorilla nearly think of a Silverback Gorilla with the way they're built and they swing around I think you'd be stood on the chest of a Grizzly could grab its paws and literally rip its arms out and beat it with it wow that's King Kong was a good movie I agree with you there I enjoyed it as much as I don't think they're that Grizzly hit a moose and can you told me that you saw it with your own eyes right is there any solid information of strength of a Silverback there's not the Silverback definitely can't grab his hard cuz doesn't have thumbs like we talked about but I think yeah but that's relative to a beating right how many fighters have a big ass and a lot of like leg power Cro Cop vs someone that's just sheer Grill up top let's do go there I just wonder dog giant dog crazy is equivalent to a giant dog a bear has a bear a bear

you still do cyber take pot from fans unit braids yes give me to yes just you're asking for it you are right I thought I'd give you a little extra taste I put some acid on that for you I don't need that right my good friend Ari shaffir dosed Bert Kreischer when they were doing a podcast together probably cuz it was a joke so that we don't do jokes yeah that's real that's just real not about it like this is the only business where you can do so your friend we all joke around about it laugh about it more nothing happens and you actually got a bump in his career like they start selling out places faster and we was going places already be doing shows and people yeah would do a play in places where weed was very legal he would play a game called find the edible sweet posted on Twitter to give people hints and he would leave some f****** nuclear edible like to some North Dakota guy who's going to find it who probably doesn't get any real weed and he's going to get one of those stars of death and he got in trouble I think in Minnesota talking about 2 maybe it was all just a prank let's go with that those Edibles man like my brother has something one time and he goes to Jimmy be careful it's called The Creeper that's why they call it and I'm like make a phone call and I'm just laying down and next thing I know I hear my wife we haven't got you okay I'm not good we have to go if you haven't got you okay I go I'm not good we have to go goodbye let's just go start driving

just talking about the the Air Force admitting that their pilots had seen UFOs and you were telling me you interviewed one of those interviewed commander fravor and he was saying that this the chocolate is Big my favorite figure out what the f*** something is but the monitor this thing they saw it with their eyes they saw it with their equipment it was actively jamming the radar whatever this thing wasn't shaped like a Tic Tac and it moves so fast you couldn't track with the human eye they said it went from I think they said some someone possible number like 60,000 feet down at 200 feet in less than a second like whatever you could try you know a radar as a blip blip blip they don't know how fast it actually went they just know it went this insane distance in less than a second less than a radar jump thank you and it would had observe them in that area without his knowledge like the other Air Force pilot observe them and then had brought it up the top of the food chain but it wasn't something that got distributed to everybody until he saw it when he saw he was like what in the f*** am I looking at here and they like we are we've been seeing these things and this thing was no active propulsion system you could recognize there's nothing around no fire coming out of it nothing around and it would just just disappear to so you take off an insane racing speed and actively jamming the radar so when I covered this on my show I said now I've heard reports that pilot see this stuff all the time but they never confirmed it and my question was why now why would the Air Force be confirming that they saw UFOs I'm not saying it didn't happen I'm saying why are they admitting it at but now and then of course you see in this last dog defense budget they put in money for space for therefore so do we don't acknowledge that application for expanding their reach or expanding their budgets they come up with some threats did I can put it together all we're going to admit that we have UFOs and now we're going to have a space by okay I can put that together that's the whole thing is like if I can do this I know they can do this they're just not doing it I think the UFO thing is you know I know you're probably right in terms of like one of the reasons why they released it but I think there's also this when you get a bunch of like really credible people like that Commander fravor guy when you get actual data like radar your you actually can look at video of the infrared infrared camera of the tracking that thing is enough for those now that people are like what the f*** is going on and if you guys have all this money and all this equipment is this is this something that the Chinese are doing or the Russians are doing or is this something you can explain and I think we're in this area where there's so much information people can get a hold of so many videos and so much stuff that they kind of have to start talking about it now okay conversations around the most innocuous of inquiries so they can shame pretty hard but when you got a guy who's like a decorated pilot like fravor and he's like look other crazy stories in my past he's not crazy guy rock-solid General all-around American hero type guy he's like look I'll tell you what I saw and it's pretty crazy when you got a guy who's like a decorated pilot like forever and he's like look the other crazy stories in my past he's not crazy guy Rock Solid General all-around American hero type guy is like look I'll tell you what I f****** saw and it's pretty crazy

and that's why it's important that Bernie gets in that's why it's important that he overcomes they're cheating and I just want to talk about schizophrenic Like Bernie has a schizophrenic strategy like people are upset that I quit teaching strategy and then he'll do a video where he endorses the DNC like he give us money we got the video with all the Democratic candidates talking about unity and every campaign had to pay $170,000 to the DNC to be included in that video why does a DNC is bankrupt why it's because no one's donating to it and so they have to extort money out of the road candidates saying if you don't give us $170,000 each to do this Unity video we won't have any money to help you once you win the nomination so they all ponied up and they're all in it and Bernie's in a Unity video where he's supposed to be speaking against the Millionaires and billionaires to be turn the f****** video Tom steyer and Bloomberg we got to come together with boo billionaires to oppose know they are the f****** problem Bloomberg is not a problem and he's not he's the guy we instituted stop-and-frisk he needs more billionaires other problem and if Bernie would just got stopped you know play footsie with them in it since you don't just passed them I think it wouldn't even be closed its they would say he's got like Barack Obama's he's got to over win because they're going Fiesta over when you know and I tell you what if you picked and Tulsi gabbard as his vice president he would crush Donald Trump because there are a lot of right-wingers in his lot of Independence a lot of anti-war people who are upset with the Republican party light independent Libertarians are sets and they like her because she's a things that you like about her she's proven herself as a patriot old establishment yes yeah that's why the DNC in the media and Elizabeth Warren campaign coordinated on this latest Texas hit on Bernie Sanders so it's not working I don't think so I think it should backfire it's just it's amazing that the the Pocahontas stuff that she's gotten as far as she has it is with lying about being Native American and using it to get a job in the way she lies about every she's such a liar that's not good you know when you cheat she want some podcast with these black eyes by three black guys how about Chelsea was asking questions. Charlamagne Tha God calls Elizabeth Warren the original Rachel dolezal that's right that's right choose Native American reason why when she's just saying this because our family but you were saying she's Native American that's the whole thing you're a 100% that don't know what she was right I know it's it's really come back to bite her in the ass I know I bet you she's created a fake pass and she did it back when there was no DNA test available so you can get away with being Native American and makes you look like your first of all kind of cool right everybody like ever see that movie Vision Quest no great movies Matthew Modine his buddies are a fake Indian is but he lied about being Native American had a mohawk and everything he's playing up the Native American thing cuz people want to be Native American it's a cool day to be more spiritual and it's certainly more oppressed so if you say that if she says she's Native American doll look at this native animated all the way to be present meanwhile she's like like 1 mm Native American is that what it was some ridiculous ridiculously small number right what you got a DNA test Trump said that you if she was Native American that he would give $1000000 of Charity give her a million-dollar some of that and she was like what what time to pay up like what did you look in the numbers yes she did yes she did everything you're saying right now sexist and I hope you know that everything you're saying is independent like how why is he allowed to tell the truth about war at Fox News I don't f****** get that they're not allowed to tell the truth about war at CNN or MSNBC will Shepard Smith was allowed to tell the truth to but he was but he was Australia's what's his name oh whoever that guy is he's fantastic in bought what business. John discount bombshell though niwrc nonprofit working to protect native women from violence more than half of all Native women have experienced sexual violence in the majority of violent crimes against Native Americans are perpetrated by non-natives send them your $1000000 check realdonaldtrump so she was saying that because she's Native American she tested like a trace amount like it really it's probably like she blew a Native American guy in college but when it is by the way it real Donald Trump I remember seeing on 75 you give me 1 million Cherry if I twist my DNA show Native American ancestry I remember and here's the verdict Warren test Warren reveals test confirming ancestry but it's such an insanely small amount I am 1.6% African I am 200 times more that's real yeah LOL so imagine I mean I thought that when she said she got fired from teaching and then video came out said she quit I thought that would be the end that should be the into I got called a sexist shut the fuel door so lucky you're not in jail with Jeffrey Epstein is not a lot of times he was a good guy that a nice yet we flew around with all the sky looked at things you had a couple drinks it's alright

Boxing class did you watch Ruiz yes what will f*****-up things wrong remember that well that fight should have been a great fight but Andy f***** up a really f*****-up an apple and afterwards he was asked for a rematch I'm pretty sure he trained himself to for that and everybody was kissing his ass and he bought a Rolls-Royce the podcast which doesn't necessarily mean going off the rails but it's really good intubation if he showed up in a f****** Caprice Classic Abilene Skies dialed-in he's focused especially after that second performance the problem with the second performance is the second performance was so pissed poor that you're going to need multiple like big wins in fights for people take you seriously again they needs a real nutritionist he really does even though he he one being fat there's a lot of factors in that fight one big factor that I have heard from people who are very knowledgeable and in-the-know insiders was that Anthony Joshua was hurting training that he got rocked and maybe even got ko'd when he was training and not not too distant from the fight. Really yeah Maury flatlines is trainer or is a sparring partner with one punch happens it happens all the time too for The Knockouts you see me in the ring there's probably you know dozens more you'll never see with top fight tops like guys that are just you know to bring it in guys like when he brought in guys like Anthony Joshua to spar with he brought in guys like Deontay Wilder a spar with Deontay Wilder I didn't know that cop fight cops like guys that are just you know the bring it in guys like when Klitschko was the champion he brought in guys like Anthony Joshua to spar with he brought and Dives like Deontay Wilder spar with Deontay Wilder I didn't know that wow

the time when I was I was going through a phase where I drop my pants on stage I did New York did you know skank sometimes I do jokes all right you know what am I here at my father it's okay it's all fine as always done with his balls out of it out and then just have it only a Sac hanging out while I was at the store I want the worst, she's ever done comedy and this one night she was killing I mean f****** killing in this is why once you hit a punchline Joey was hiding behind the stage and he was naked B&J lettings criminal with Joey's balls look like grapefruit in old ladies pantyhose and he's got a giant dick so Joey would you know it is a huge belly so he opens up his balls and dick or hanging out with huge belly yeah she never did tell me again Hotel hanging out in the u.s. are in the background hanging out at the jacuzzi get ready for the show wow yeah it's already dangerous enough trouble now yes I can get really angry at you for showing your dick yeah I used to do it all the time yeah I don't there was when I was a kid at older sisters and they said there was a flasher on neighborhood they were going like all the time like I don't understand this whole thing understand why he's doing that the whole thing but you're addicted to that kind of pictures lots of people like that how about guys who are addicted to their higher women to gagum and s*** on him and kick him in the balls and yeah sometimes like really powerful than hurt them pidilite is a cat with a capless kygo all the guilt and hitting and biting and somehow I managed to avoid that kind of stuck kind of like the whole pantyhose and beating you and kick him in the balls and she was saying most of her clients are like these like wealthy CEOs and they run these companies and their the f****** man when they walk in on mr. wasn't sure how long it's going to get you a cup of coffee and everyone's kissing her ass they want someone to s*** on I'm like literally s*** on them they want some of the time up and yeah she would say that those are the guys I don't get it maybe the Steele dossier right when they were talking about getting peed on all that stuff from peeing on them that's why it made sense like all of course of course what nothing is real. It's real but that would be a story that's one of the best things that cuz you can say pegged on national TV right now yes still you can still say no one can stop you by Peg does not like that in the dictionary I don't think right if you say butt f***** with a dildo people but you shouldn't even say that because it's too wordy economy of words pegged fits better and it's it's it's got a pea and a g pegged how do you just not start laughing when they summer bad boy get to dominate you and that's it humiliate you yeah I knew a guy in this group if he let her peg him and he wouldn't do it really Parker Leonard you in the ass you're gay and my friend was funny he was like son even a real dick bro like your joke about the the female version of who wants to give you a job in Hollywood movie Harvey and the Weinstein Harvey Weinstein to my son with a solid contract I'd be like dude you're going to be Batman

Washington Texas site exactly like you said it any moment it can happen if I can turn around. There's a freak yeah he has no one I've ever seen who can knock everyone out that's him he knocks everyone has never been a guy if you look at his record it's insane it's not just the fact that he's won so many fights you always one decision loss he has one draw with the Tyson Fury and fear and then the rest he not when the orbit every other fight has 40 Knockouts and that Cuban guy he just laid out all my God KO like right after the Tyson Fury fight okay the most murders punch I've ever seen the heavyweight division John urine Lyoto Machida is a boxer was true and I want you to do it now before I tried it give and testosterone flowing for the fight don't want the levels to go down so I always thought having sex was bad for you before if you love actually go up not that bad but some people think it's a distraction like Mike Tyson's view was he said that he felt that sex was distracting so he would have sex just so you'd have to think about it because if you didn't have sex and he was just thinking about ex all time but when Tyson was in his prime you got to also remember he's a really young guy he was in his early twenties is testosterone through the f****** do you know and the the level of girls that were bombing on his that f****** Gladiator dick you know and the the level of girls that were bombing on him that f****** Gladiator dick

busted that's kind of like the mission of my show is to remind people how we got Trump people want to pretend that corruption in lying started in January 2017 the Afghanistan papers just came out jokes that revealed that three administrations in a role I'd completely one-hundred-percent about Afghanistan from the day they took over to the daylight left stuff like Donald Rumsfeld saying we don't even know who the bad guys are really think that maybe we would go to war from mineral resources upset at what a small story it was those papers came out and then no one really even talked about it barely got it government including Barack Obama Afghanistan papers proved that they've been lot we've been lied to forever with the papers earn some people just don't happen when they did a study just like the Pentagon papers right they do their own study that reveals that they're lying so they interviewed 400 people that were like in the middle of generals in the military and contractors and all these kind of people to find out so they can know what will happen in Afghanistan so they revealed all this the people who they were interviewing we be allowed this that at the beginning of the board so who that that they still don't know who's the bad guys who were killing their lying about stay would lie that is going well and then their personal writings would be revealing that they didn't know what the hell they were doing and so it was what's worse than you think but we can still just keep sending four billion dollars a month they're just keep sending it just keep sending it for what no one knows we're not leaving Trump didn't take us out it's going to get these are up for re-election a couple of months we're still in Afghanistan he didn't do what he said he was going to do nobody does the problem and that's why we got Trump in the first place because Barack Obama comes in as an anti-war guy immediately get throwed by the military-industrial complex just like Trump did I believe that I did believe that Trump his brothers would get the hell out of the Middle East rights but he doesn't really have any druthers he's like okay I'm done doing that cuz they rolled me hard enough three years of russiagate I'm going to do what they want will you saw the conversation that he had with one reporter we talked about the military-industrial complex in about how they want to go to war actively while in office this is like like at Eisenhower thing like as he's leaving while in office talking about the military barely got mentioned I know and so I so I think that's why the establishment wants to get rid of trump even though he does their bidding and gives them their trillion dollar tax cuts nobody asked how we're going to pay for it he gives them into Venezuela he tried to try to do what he's doing here and he didn't come out we didn't get out of Syria what was that exact opposite of what he ran on his happening so why do why do I why do I think this happens because just what Eisenhower said is he left he says we the undue influence of the military-industrial complex and she mentioned they just invented 131 billion dollars more worth of work for Raytheon and Boeing and Halliburton how much money does the recording music business make a year Trump got elected 131 extra billion and we just think what you could do with that you can build 131 Yankee Stadium's do you hear do you think that a lot of this impeachment stuff and a lot of Scandal stuff is really a distraction for a lot of these things they're pushing through yes it's 100% distraction and if they really believe that they don't try to put handcuffs on them so that's how you know they're full of s*** and the reason why they're coming at Trump in the way this does waste so now they're starting to oppose them because of this Duran thing so now you turn on CNN Chris Cuomo goes to pay why doesn't Congress do its job and take back to war powers that they gave it to the president under which is what I predicted that the Democrats Republicans or fracking Arctic Drilling and all that stuff gassing immigrants at the border now we're all going to become aware of it well the Democrats been 3 years doing freaking Russia gate so they didn't ever oppose them on that stuff and they let him keep doing it and so now people are starting to become aware of what's happening and so now Chris Cuomo's going hey why don't why don't we I'm spying Powers you f****** bullshiter they're all f****** bullshitters it's weird scam would you give him an extra hundred 31 billion dollars to go bomb anybody at is open give me a hard time about supporting Tulsi rights like why you so I think it's really important to have an anti-war voice that has you know speaks from experience she's actually in the military right now she actually volunteered to go serve in their legal Wars and then they smear for it it's kind of amazing

so anyway I don't make me feel good that makes me feel like I want to be an outsider I don't want I want people to be afraid of me they're afraid you know I don't know if they are so that's good about guests my show is all about my opinion court and calling out bulshit so it's not snow we doing the right thing I'm doing the wrong thing cuz they all keep asking to be on my show okay from all of them really Warren friends around dark my friend yeah I know Kelsey and I like I like Bernie that's it everybody else except for an independent vote for Gary Johnson cuz he did my podcast people don't realize how far okay wild know there's nothing about me this right-wing tell your own food. That's it well that's crazy it is 95 + percent of the population of Planet needs me I just happen to kill my own yeah that's it so it's not like 95% the populations right-wing cuz he killed her own food has a lot of right-wing like family values and things like that that I admire I think but when it when you can't when he gets to homophobia when he gets the women's rights that's where I break right 100% in favor of women's rights 100% in favor of gay rights gay marriage I'm a big proponent of there's got to be some new action taken to clean up a lot of these crime-ridden communities and the idea that we can spend all this money overseas we can't spend money on Flint Michigan or Detroit or the southside of Chicago that's amazing saying that doesn't make any sense and this idea that we're all in the same starting page is so f****** stupid to that that is a very non clean way of looking at it cuz everybody's like you got to pull yourself up by your bootstraps is a lot of people that came out of bad neighborhoods but they didn't didn't f****** cry woe is me to drive out there and they kicked ass that's nonsense you have no idea what it's like to grow up in a crime-ridden poverty infested drug-addled neighborhood you don't know what that's like and we should make it so that no one knows what that's why if we want America better the best way to start is to clean up all the spots that sucked and make people that are coming out of their have a real chance making something out of their life don't don't have it so that they're starting out from the time they're a child with a massive deficit that to me and what you mean by Clint's cleaning up the play mean Community programs putting money into these communities jobs jobs that's a big part of it protect them from The Gangsta put more cops in those neighborhoods and have them there all the time make them a part of the community they got to do something about the violence something about the gangs in this repetitive cycle of people growing up in these neighborhoods and getting trapped in the same horrible conditions of their parents to the grandparents did and it's an endless cycle we and we pretend like we don't have the resources to fix these Jack TR did I'll give you a job that means you're going to go work your earning it and get the money for it when that be amazing if they did that there could be strategy not all work I don't feel like I don't want anything to do with Enterprise zones all the problems of the community has jobs as something to look forward truth they need to know that they can if they do play by the rules they will get things you can have a job right now though people don't have any health care Blackman's either we're talking about the coal mining communities in West Virginia man who you don't even like I have a good friend is from there's like man you don't know what poverty is like you don't even know a party is like until you see that nothing I talked to a guy on my shows name is Nick Smith from Virginia and he told me he was Waffle House cook and he told me and I thought I might even told you this before you said hey we all knew that Donald Trump was a loudmouth Yankee but Hillary Clinton police offering us something so they're desperate people need something she won't even sign on to a $15 minimum wage when she was with you when she came around with gay-marriage my family lived we live in San Francisco in the height of the I mean it was the vietnam.war there's always hippies hippie I mean I've been liberal my hold up I just look like a Republican what do I like my friend Graham Elwood is do you know him he's and he's very anti-war like me and so these people were bucking with him to be pro-war and he's like that's right I'll knock you out

well she's a weird one right because she has so many characteristics that you would think that everyone who is a progressive would want as president she is a veteran who twice served overseas twice deployed she been adventure for long time long time congresswoman she's from Hawaii she's I mean I guess she's Hawaiian you would say she's a woman of color they say she's a woman of color what color I don't know about these things I'm right I don't know who is really mean the Hawaiian roots are essentially Polynesian and South Pacific Travelers who landed thousands of years ago on this island so yeah I mean it is essentially a person either way she's a very articulate rock-solid woman and they tried to find a bunch of dirt on her and they can't and they and they don't know what to do and it's just funny to me that a lot of people who are supporting Elizabeth Warren were shiting on Tulsi as hard as they can of course with one shows her True Colors sheet she's as a right-wing sexist mehron Bernie Sanders is what's happening this is such a crazy thing to do makes me or like nobody's buying that the media and the DNC got together and they're like coordinated doesn't come out of nowhere what they're doing is they're making themselves less and less relevant and they're making guys like you and independent more and more relevant and more and more trustworthy and that's why they keep going to the catnip of russiagate or tweets guy has an $83,000 job on a board in a country his dad just helped overthrow what are you f****** crazy it seems like you don't get the billion-dollar what do you know they fired the guy that guy did say later that guy who got fired cuz I got fired because I was investigating the rispoli said that in a court document so believe me throughout why didn't they why didn't they impeach Trump on the emoluments Clause why didn't they do that why do they do at 10 benefiting office position in government the best Soca then people are saying that people are saying what's wrong with the woman using her degree she has three degrees I wonder how she was at 4 able to afford those three degrees I wonder if she overcame all those obstacles did she die and the Wall Street Banks that's not me saying that that's Dylan ratigan award-winning Bloomberg reporter says that how they pay him off well he has a I don't know if you noticed he just bought a house at Martha's Vineyard from the guy who owns the Celtic but he's healthy as a 40 has 49 Acres got a lot of money 40 acres and Kevin Hart how do they pay a monthly how does that work how does that work with that work with legal like how does how does the president get paid off when he left. When he left the presidency he goes windsurfing with Branson for a while right as we still don't have clean water in Flint and comes back in the public is this a bribe what do you not for the fact yes but it's amazing that they still honor that that they're they're so rock solid in their commitment to this corrupt system that even after the guy can't even help him anymore is out-of-office they hook him up with these speaking jobs where he gets a half a million bucks a pop and then whatever you want to do Bill Clinton would he would make sure that he got speaking gigs along did the weapons deals that you're giving yes this is Chris he didn't get drunk because the Democratic party was doing their job the people were got desperate and decided to take a chance on a political novice game show host who they knew was a bullshiter everybody knows I don't know because I communicate an acrostic with you but I've been trying to burnish his should be wiping the floor with these candidates hit that shouldn't even be closed right and so I've been employing them Bernie take the gloves off would you quit turning to Joe Biden and saying my best friend Joe Biden you got to do what Trump did what Trump was running he ran against the Republican Party ran against all those puke set the people are sick and tired of the people have been let down by these are the people who took you to a wrap these are the people who took you to live yet these are the people who are bankrupting you these are the pics so that's what he did and he do Bernie gets up and go drop my good friend I just want to let you know you're corrupt it's like quit saying you're friends with find the reason why you can't understand how medicare-for-all works is because you're corrupt and your pay not understand and we're going to get rid of your brand of corruption when I'm president has you're the problem oh my God what the game is wasn't he always in support of her Joe Biden yeah no no no no no yeah there was always in support of Elizabeth Warren was like a Bernese policies are pretty popper out for 10

what is play when time was written by Steve Martin and it was a fictitious meaning between Picasso and Einstein and a bar in France was called Picasso at the Lapin agile and in it Picasso's painting and he's talking and he says an artist must stay well f***** otherwise his eye goes from the page to the windowsill down to the street across over to the cafe with a girl sitting with her skirt up and and it's like you got that's what stuck with me is Bernard it doesn't stay well f*** that I was going to do anything about getting laid Yeah men will understand that but men will rarely say that in the presence of women and so because of that women either don't believe it or they dismiss it or they think you're a pig for expressing it right all those things but men alone. That makes sense I give you say that otherwise you get distracted this dude is true women have no idea I heard a thing on NPR one time probably 15 years ago and they were doing a story about this woman who decided to transition to be a man and so she documented it and do like an audio thing and she talked about how when she was into and started feeling her testosterone and she would become attracted to women and she goes it didn't have to be a boob it could be in elbow it could be your ankle it can be whatever and I would and she goes I finally understood boys yeah yeah pretty f****** distracting isn't it you got to keep your s*** together well it's not just that it's a biological imperative it's a reason why people breed right like that's built into the DNA to make people attracted to females so they can spread their DNA and that's what it is it's that simple to deny that is crazy but you've got men denying it because they want women to like them and then you got women dismissing it because they they think that the man who express it in an honest way are pigs and sexist and they exhibit toxic masculinity which is that's a hilarious expression cuz you need to thank toxic masculinity for all the bridges all the f****** all the Jets all the Rockets what is toxic masculinity you break down all the things that men have invented and all these toxic men have prevented but like you from being murdered in war and protected the car Korean all the all the different things that you could attributed toxic masculinity most of its positive women who developed a terrible way most likely with bad parents most likely abused physical and or sexual and then they become a monster at the end of all this process is the same with men bad men are just bad human beings that happen to be men and when you see terrible things happen it's not because of toxic masculinity a bad person I believe in the individual there's individuals and some of them are bad and some of them are good but you want if you just want to generalize against all men like your urine Coppell road is too many obviously not me I've never felt anything but there's too many things that men have done their positive there's way too many this to me that if you wanted to have like a scoreboard and you wanted to compete men vs women will why what are you going to say when you look at all the different accomplishments that men have made and obviously it's not me it's not you I'm not talking about us like what they were on a team but I'm playing like just this ugliest concept that men are bad you hear this a lot today socially white man I don't hear from White matte okay well that's crazy cuz there's a lot of nice white men but this is dumb dumb. Of you yeah he's one of them idea that you can generalize about one entire group with his by gender or whether it's by race but by anything but you can do that with white men you can't really do that with brown women you can't say he has a problem with black women you know all black women of this that people who you're a racist piece of s*** you say here's a problem both are gross both statements are generalizations are disgusting whether there a gender-based generalization or a sex-based general but whenever it is so they would say that that's okay to say that about white men because of the power dynamic more power sure but they also have more power than white man it's a tiny percentage of white men who have the power they were talking about when you talk about CEOs and you're talking about you know judges or what is it yes yes white men are in those positions to talk but they're also in those positions of power over most white men like it's it's not it's it's a very small amount of people that have extraordinary amount of influence yeah they happen to be white man police white men suck look at this I know that's the smallest percentage of people who are these billionaires who are these CEOs who are these judges who are these people that are in positions of power that happen to be white men so have you ever now again I don't know I heard a guy refer to himself like a regular guy refer to himself as a cyst male get your mail if you are trans woman and you you want to be referred to only as a woman that fine no problem with that but I'm not going to call myself a cyst male that's some new made up s*** that sounds like you're calling to shame people into using that Ram it down their throats eventually they'll accept it and it'll become normal and that you have to cuz if they want to refer to us as trans we have to refer to them as says we have to force them to make a clear distinction so instead of making it look like a trans woman is lesser you sent you instead of that you have cisgender and transgender there because you're you're adding to that name that prefix because you're adding to both now now you've equalize the playing field you level the playing field with the problem with that is trans is extremely rare it's the reason why you have that prefix in the first place cuz it's really really unusual to meet a trans woman despite how the internet would have you feel I was always a tough life to be a transgender what to dress up like Meghan McCain and just start going on rants on your shout you'd be free I would have such a f****** free pass I mean like Caitlyn Jenner kill the lady don't even talk about anything I just slammed not paying attention rear-ended her and oncoming traffic she's dead now and no one even brings it up everyone's like a brave you think she's intact her she cut it off you think she's intact her she cut it off oh my God it's a con yeah I don't but that was accident it wasn't like it was a careless accident still she rear-ended somebody and slandering oncoming traffic OK and whether or not she was on her phone I don't know

you think that you could do Tropic Thunder today would that be possible or you could do it in again like Eddie you know I look back to me that movie to me was a circle back to my dad's movie called Putney Swope which I highly recommend anyone who hasn't seen to see about a black guy who takes over an ad agency in the 60s cuz everyone votes for him when the head of the company. because they think no one else will and it's about what happens when someone who is free-spirited takes over and essentially corrupt and ever and then he realizes and confronts his own corruption but I remember I was probably two or three when that was being shot and when it came out and it was so a part of my upbringing and I just remembered some of those the folks that were around my dad at that time and so when band called and said hey I'm doing this thing and you know I think penne pasta possibly wisely and I thought yeah I'll do that and I'll do that after Iron Man and my heart is a I get to I get to be black for a summer in my mind so there's something in it for me the other thing is I get to hold up to Nature the insane self-involved hypocrisy of artists and what they think they're allowed to do on occasion just my opinion and also been who is a masterful artist and director probably the closest thing to a Charlie Chaplin that I've experienced it might have the time he writes he directs he acts he if you would seen him when he was directing this movie you would have been like I'm watching I'd lean I'm watching Chaplin I'm watching Coppola he he knew exactly what the vision for this was he executed it it was impossible to not have it be an offencive nightmare of a movie and 90% of my black friends are like dude that's great but I know where my heart was it's never an excuse to do something that is out of place and not if it's time but to me it was just putting a it was a blasting cap on and by the way I think White Chicks came out pretty soon after that I was like I love that I like that was great the prime minister of Canada cuz he did brownface pretended to be Saudi Arabian Arabian Nights in high school or something like that it's it's an interesting and necessary meditation on where is the pendulum why is the pendulum right where's the pendulum maybe cutting little into what could be perceived as as heart in the right place openness of its time I mean you know there's some morality Clause here on this planet and it's a big price to pay and I think having a moral psychology is his job one so sometimes you just got to go yeah you know I act up again not in my defense but Tropic Thunder was about how wrong that is so I take exception I think you could do it today I think you could I think it could be done today it would be so much outrage but it would also be people cheering and if you if we got we boiled down all the b******* and got to the actual result of what the film did the f****** hilarious to this. I watched it again about a year-and-a-half ago it's a great movie it's a great fun movie I mean it's ridiculous over-the-top Arias and it worked then and your portrayal and it wasn't it wasn't egregious it wasn't it was it was necessary it made sense all of it fit it all the square pegs in square holes I just thinking I think I drove by was it might be the last time we'll ever see a studio take a chance on a guy wearing black face and the the prolific use the word retard those are two things and by the way that's what I've been the funny thing to was all the heat got deflected to Ben and simple Jack that's what people were pissed off about and I go but you never know when it's going to be and I've been on both sides of the coin sometimes life just says your symbol now did you have anybody that was telling him not to do it with her but the agents or anyone was in my mother was horrified how are you sweating just been a couple times I was all the night before and we're on Kauai and here we go and I was just running I think I had six lines that day but I knew that there was going to be Choppers it was going to be a squib fire there was going to be choreography there was going to be you know it was going to be cacophonous and the only thing that mattered to me again what my actions and actor in this movies to know what I'm doing even if what I'm doing is insane so I ran those six or eight lines I had sometimes lying in bed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again so the next day I was free to enjoy myself and not be struggling to wonder what it was I was supposed to be doing and then that's what it is it was just you know it was one little Mosaic after the next and by the end of it I had some cried that day I'd made it through forget that it wasn't you know blackface it was a special effects makeup day after day after day after day after day after day after day except for the times when I would have my bleached hair and blue contacts in my eyes or if you know other characters and it was just a it was a piece of work I was doing and I cared about doing this professionally and it's on is a kid so when you memorize lines that's an interesting thing you said that you were free to to do it like when you memorize wants is there ever a part like when you're acting where you have to think like what am I supposed to say next and how much is that get in the way there's I would look I have are very Broadband of of tolerances I don't care if the people I'm with happened to not know what they're doing or don't know and you're stepping on my lines or or whatever or want to change their lines and my lines and it's always a different thing it's like reading the room it's like you know if I was a fighter you on the octagon and daddy to go you ready you ready and you go and then you just do it but so I've had it where I would try to be off book before everyone else I would get it down to an acronym so if there was a thousand words I do remember I would just remember the first letter of each and I would put it on a piece of poster board and then I would stand away from it not as far as you and your your archery set up over there but far enough away to where I can see if I kind of can't see it back when my vision was little more clear and I would just run it run it run it when it did the first Sherlock we were rewriting it so much and I would have pages and pages of stuff as a human hair wig and it helped me with my accent and then I started getting into like you know what's so great I can finish work go home my kids are do whatever I want to do GO train and in the morning they can change it all they want I don't have to trip if it all if you know it unless it's some monologue that you want to really be committed to that's not going to shift I'm just go like that so you can put one of those lines and now I've kind of gone as far as you can go with that and I'll probably go back to the new method or a new version of the old method with whatever preparation going to do for each roll how you going to do it whether you're going to go and memorize everything obsessively or whether you just going to be a little bit more Lucy free with it yes depends on the script to like Tropic Thunder Justin Theroux wrote that script with the with Ben is really good script I mean my misses who next my mother was more so I was really waiting on in the kitchen it's so true if you do this right you're you're doing something that's it's about a bunch of self-involved idiots somehow or other becoming Eros it's cuz I love that if that's what it stays and it's going to be good in so like for instance the you know never go full throttle. smoking dope I'm not doing a mask I'm going to do everything right all right alright drop 6-1 up 9:52

this concept of things just sort of falling in the place I'm a big believer in that to what is that that was that you getting out of your own way like what what is that is it isn't that 70% of it yeah yeah I say it's 70% maintenance of what can I do to do my part to stay out of the way and then the other part I always think of it is like this little super-thin Invisible Thread you can feel the tug and you just kind of have to be really gentle when you have to pause when agitated and you have to go for it when you going to like it has four walls and hear which one has the math behind that you was that one and you knocked down the lawn it's there you know made a career out of sort of like labeling in aligning it or teach you how to get to it in Gray cuz it's the commodity that you can't capitalize on and yet if you don't show proof of its existence you you can't even you shouldn't even be qualified to speak on it I don't know but when it happens it happens with love or with friendship or with a career with a path you're taking you just to know while you're just a smile there's a smile like this is that I found it is that this is I'm supposed to be doing this here we go here we go at this point in my life and being you know kind of middle-aged and all that well I know I'm going to fly around the world and Michelle some soap and I know I have a new project and I know I just retired my jersey on this 12-year Journey I've been on and and how do I want to start and it came up how would you like it have The Joe Rogan Experience and and kick off this year in this season in this new chapter by doing what I love which is an interview as we're looking at each other and if there's a given take but to answer the question it can be anticlimactic like anything I mean this is so real you know I never seen you around a little bit but I feel like I know you cuz I see you all the time and I listen to you and I'm a I'm a martial arts nut and yeah isn't it sometimes when you when you get outside of the fortunate interesting creative experience you're having you kind of go like it's very dreamlike yeah yeah Phil Hartman was stunned that I was actually like sitting at we were at at this table read sitting across from a famous guy to be normal and then after awhile if that becomes normal and then the the fact that it becomes normally comes to real and then if we feels like a dream when I meet people like you like we've just met an hour or so ago and yet instantly I feel like I know you Dad very strange it's pretty easy to get to know them you say something I say something back of eye I know how he works I see what's going on in their actual human has to because you're so pretty in your show you literally you just use is a rolling start with you every time you coming to the show and you're already kind of thinking about stuff so it's it feels very organic and part of me even this morning was like I hope he looks into my eyes and doesn't see a complete and utter foolish frog because I would probably believe him if he beer that back to me when in just being myself someone who I respect you guys look amazing what it what are we talking about and you remember that cuz it kind of person is like I don't know what the next word out of my mouth is going to be right now no one ever does unless you do and if you do is kind of weird some people are poker players I respect some people that are because there's a an ability to maybe it's fear-based but I always appreciate people who knows people like their icons are big shots or that they hold a certain Steam and all of their texts are very simple it's like yes yes we should fix that sure on it how to make a. Beats the all-caps text yet I don't like those at all those people weird CT Fletcher but yeah The Surreal part is I think part of the reason I'm still so interested not just in life but also you know getting to do what I do is I'm a fan I love movies creativity I love music I love I love culture and the fact that I actually have a place in it while I'm observing it and digging it is like it's it's it's not her well that's a beautiful perspective and that shows in how you how you how you carry yourself and it shows in the work that you do that you do appreciate it and you know one of the saddest things is someone was in an amazing position who doesn't appreciate it and that that that drives other people crazy to like prima donnas drive people crazy for a variety of reasons one of the big ones is you don't appreciate how fortunate you are like in people love when people appreciate good fortune and appreciate a well-earned position and are you know engrossed in a beautiful life of something that they really enjoy and something that really inspires them why I need to I need to be right sized cuz I can easily fall into self-seeking and depression and self-pity and judgment and and all that stuff it's kind of a it's a bit of a default but I spend enough energy and if that had enough help over enough years to actually just say oh that's that's just awful destructive Behavior your entertaining in your hand yeah we watching we could all fall into those ruthlessly self-critical and it's hard for me sometimes it's very hard to step outside and in just just take a pause and recognize not everything's going to be right the first time you try it I think that a lot of people that are really great at things that's one of the things about them is that they're not very satisfied with their work like they're always looking to improve it there was looking for it to be better and then that can start that cycle in their hair self-loathing and anxiety and anger there that they're performing to their work or whatever it is that can lead to depression and I can lead to just tell hate and what are your tolerances like I'll be the first to tell you like the you know so do certain movies or moved in Tropic Thunder or one of the first do no Iron Man movies I was like I'd go over to the Monterey be like Play that back again in frame you got the line right your eye line was right the lighting was right the sensibility was right and you just look at it you go oh you know it's like I don't know for me it's like the playback of the perfect Superman punch KO and just go show me that again or when we were shooting Tropic Thunder I had a little teaser clip for Ironman but it wasn't coming out until the next year we were going to go to Comic-Con and I hope so she didn't show it to people in there like that movies going to do pretty good and then, can we talk but used to be like that with music too like I write music I haven't for some time but you would write something and then you just listen to it on the loop cuz you go wow that's not I know that I was here and I did that but it feels kind of inspired and you want to get on that stuff but important as long as it doesn't bleed out you and over the edges and just make it running again get out of your own way again I mean that's one of them many tenants of Life learn how to get out of your own way with everything included with creative Endeavors it seems like that that thing that you said about music most people who write things or creates things say that that it's you they know they're doing I'll give you make a great sculptor you know you're doing it but where is it coming from like what is what is the idea that fast itself into this perfect thing that you could step back and look at it and it seems to really how did I create that I don't know if I made my fingers move but I don't know if that's me who wrote that music who performed it I know you did but there's nothing inside you that sort of like Tunes in to this this energy of ideas and then it comes through you and again you kind of have to get out of your own way while you're writing something and then when it comes out it's weird feeling it's not like like if you hammer a nail into a board you f****** are very aware you did that you're very aware but there's something about the creative process that's not you're not totally there is weird yam it because it is you and it isn't you I love it oh I was out of my mind I was not in my mind it was a beautiful day and I think you saw the results poetic especially a countershot like they'll and something and they don't even have any idea they're going to do it and they did it and it is called The Knockout it's their training manifest itself in this one special beautiful moment work they they walk away and it's the work it's it's there's so many things involved either somebody moving pieces you have to be working on your own mind to learn how to get out of your own way you also have to be like really engrossed in whatever the activity is it you're doing like obsessed in love with it and passionate about it and then you have to have the discipline to show up and actually do the work there's so many different moving Pete and it all has to be mad it's not solid it's like a it's like a f****** wrapped on the ocean it's moving around unwrapped on the ocean it's moving around you're always trying to like figure out how to keep it keep it moving and functional and always seems unmanageable after it's over lies like that even work board

exchanges and I also know that I don't really know that much and it's different every time anyway but some I really like when you have a loose concept of what you're doing the certain parts that aren't going to change much and the rest you discover so the first Iron Man I mean John and I in there and the writers are John and I we we were just would write you right align all right align and then we would we were literally watching the puppies be born as we did it frustrating for people who knock when it's cuz she can look at a piece of paper and then go okay I got it and she's got it all memorized she's amazing but what's for the highest good sometimes it's very self-indulgent to come in and like you don't hand out new pages or so I'm not saying that Sophie me that mean I mean you need an environment of respect but I I like I like discovering things how much of acting managing those weird relationships how are these other people that you're acting with like you've made some references to like people changing other people's Alliance and ended up not being prepared I got out of acting for that very reason that was the thing that I I went from a world of stand-up comedy which are just a bunch of crazy people and two actors which are a bunch of crazy people but in a different way and the managing all the different characters and all the different personalities how hard is that well you sure can and it's like a thumbprint every time you're on a new project it's a completely different you know it's fingerprint the unit you never know what you're going to get and sometimes project seem blessed and sometimes you could say they're cursed but again might at Susan Downey Esquire was talking about this yesterday she goes it's the only thing you can't overcome as a creative producer on a big movie or anyting is in principle no matter what happens you can fix it we lost the light of the Thunder the weather came in okay he got sick so she's up she's pregnant okay great the change of costume you can't overcome personalities the relationships of people meet up before you commit to a role do you ever say like I want to meet Captain America I mean I love that you think I'd have the authority did you catch this guy already let me get a taste of Motel you thinking stick around IMO is always lets mind-meld let's get together let's work weekends let's spend time together cuz you can't replace that familiarity but so you have to try to build it and sometimes it happens very naturally like I adore Chris Evans I can't even why is that you the Boston guy he's technically and it's such a brilliant actor but he also doesn't take himself seriously he's flaky but he's the first guy you would want to have your back if something went down he's an end and yet were different enough where I feel like by being who we are and then both having those characters we were able to I think God I thought I thought Civil War was a special moment in the in the Arc of the Marvel films about turning one against the other in what and so sometimes you just get lucky as matter fact the whole Marvel Universe possibly without exception just happens to be a really well he call that when you put together something curated group of Souls films that happen to be about superheroes where is you know for the longest time superhero movies were bulshit you know he did TV shows were kind of clunky they were there were campy you know those Batman with the silly pants on and Robin had bought it everything was back and yet who was in the first Superman Brenda an attempt to legitimize something that was otherwise two-dimensional and then Batman in The Batman series three Hawks at least one two three not counting the TV show Mark Mark Ruffalo easy icing like how does that work like when you're on the set but that seems like one of the weirdest part about acting and some of those Avenger films is how much of it is actually digital yet you just couldn't get used to it I'll digress in a movie with Richard linklater called A Scanner Darkly and it was rotoscoped so I love that money love him and singing We would shoot the scenes and he was saying are you can just leave your your body mic on the outside cuz there's paint whole thing so that rotoscoping is a great metaphor for essentially what the Marvel movies became when sometimes you would even go and I'm supposed to come in and let you know throw something in the overs off camera but everything else was great. We'll just move your arm later and you go wow so you never want to rest on your laurels and say no but after turn while I was like why am I wearing this this this football suit just put some thoughts on my shoulders so I can move more freely and then be like right I got with it honestly what are you really using this all the stuff I'm working for you for reference I go great so I'll wear for one take and then I'll take it off and then I'll relax a little bit but then people would be like or Betten would be like I'm stuck in this f****** thing. in on the joys in the miseries of the of the technical challenge of doing an end speaking Ruffalo by the end because he's smart Hulk he literally they're just making big wherever he was and they put a little you know putting a piece of PVC with a big Hulk had up about five feet over where his head was and he was just there in a green suit so in a tracking suit would like its package out you know and he be like at least I like a little wrong around mice come on guys you know whatever you know and so I think Mark went about as far out into the ionosphere of fcg as you can I didn't get the whole smart smart Hulk thing how he figured that out wasn't really a genius scientist the beast but after so many times and against the genius of the people who break and Shake stories over there fighting his team's they go is not Hulk is Hulk it's a big battle always so conflicted what if he could meet himself in the middle and then what corner have we painted ourselves in by having a meet himself in the middle cuz then you can't every if that doesn't work you can't go back to the way it was you've done it for you can go back to the way it was so I just think that the Real Genius of the Marvel creative team as they end the Russo brothers who did the last few Avengers Infinity War endgame is a go we love writing ourselves into a corner we love it because then it it activates all of those how do we get out of purgatory juices and then you get the next right idea when you sit down you do they just lay it out and say this is this is the character Arc how do you how do you feel about this what do you think yeah an invite it's changed over time I think if you're one of the folks as their Standalone movies like Scarlett has Black Widow coming out I think you take a I would you take a bit of a different tack in how much meetings I think the phrase the legal phrase for actors in studios is Meaningful consultation not script approval because then anybody could have called the studio hostage cuz I don't approve this 30 million dollars that you're trying to spend right now so your schedule is fine when you say I don't approve I picture a bathrobe and a pictures Fine China and teacups that's why picture I don't approve and then just storming off I've Had My Moments to cuz I'm so passionate about story but again after Morsi time with the same people and new people coming in and and getting a a brutal education on what kind of process these movies require you to just start trusting more that they're thinking on your behalf and also little things are easy to change Big Things become a inconvenience to the higher good and at what point do you want to pull the air brake on something where the trains you know already leaving the state but I would imagine it would be a fine line that they say they want the actor be comfortable with the character and they want some and maybe some feedback would be beneficial but they're also they have a path division that they've created yet they would like to see you sometime or another at least more slightly to get on this path and by the way after I had my second round the kids with Susan I became both artists I had a bit of a Renaissance when I was doing the third Ironman and then after that to I was like what and I'm going to do this Avengers and it's so many moving parts and it's so difficult just to get all these schedules to come inside and get everyone together then I'm not to be like I'm not feeling it so again it's that thing it's it's sometimes where they say faster alone further together sometimes you can only think about further because you got to get downfield sometimes you're thinking hey this is my moment to Ron and I need I need a little help in a little approval and I need a little leeway but that's any creative Endeavor I would imagine when you were involved in something that's so epic when it's actually over it probably almost seems surreal cuz the production is so massive is so many moving pieces the so many special effects 20 things that you have to sort of visualize while you're doing it and then after it's all over you're done and what is it like the big Avengers movie how many months are you involved in this well I mean it could be some part of 18 months to two years depending on how far out you are and then four to six months of principal photography and then additional photography and then post and then I was include promotion you know from Yeah Yeah from Soup To Nuts the phrase Soup To Nuts one of my great great friends and probably one of the greatest big movie producers of all time we did the Sherlock's behind me did The Matrix series my missus was running his company for 10 years kisskissbangbang which is I think in some ways the best film I've ever done wind up being a calling card it came out and it that Bond and but Jon Favreau saw it and he said this guy could do an action to me and so that won't it be which is I think in some ways the best film I've ever done wind up being a calling card it came out in it that Bond and but Jon Favreau saw it and he said this guy could do an action movie and so that wound up being my calling card into that Marvel Universe

search Muhammad contest they didn't Texas Charlie hebdo you know the magazine Charlie hebdo is his magazine to Paris and they did a cartoon about Muhammad not supposed to draw Muhammad will they killed everyone at work there till like nine people they killed police officer it was a really big issue everybody was terrified listen to the New York Times wouldn't draw the pictures they wouldn't do it in print the pictures of the Los Angeles Times went for the pictures Washington Post went for the figure out no one was doing anything then Texas got in the mix and they decided have a draw Muhammad contest and sit lake with it within minutes a dude showed up in it with it with his friend they start shooting in the building they were killed almost instantly and I'm like why because they were doing a draw Muhammad contest in Texas attention to anything about Texas and then I got this whole bit about how this the place where they you know that bit about the more tigers in captivity in Texas and all the while the world with the pet simulator 2016 special more tigers in captivity in Texas than all of the wild of the world that's how crazy Texas is Texas is Wild West people who just said we're good we're out here just stopped all those Kit Carson type dude from the f****** Wild West they just stopped they stay there there's more tigers in Texas than the whole rest of the planet that's insane Tigers fed you can have fences we have a hundred tigers in your yard Texas is a different animal sound but it's one of the safest places to be that's why it is violence in Texas just like this violence whenever you get large groups of people but I like people in Texas friendly man they say good morning The Weeknd the artist Smiley Texas his is not only the best place in the United States for me for a jiu jitsu seminars but also comedy to text me Texas is a different animal comedy 200 people show up for seminars it's it's insane man I did my first CD in Texas Houston is the best place text me Texas is a different animal comedy 200 people show up for seminars it's it's insane then I did my first CD in Texas Houston is the best place

so we're talking about losing eyesight you actually take comfort in the fact that your eyesight is starting to dwindle you run a chase it at first I was like I'm fine then I'm 42 but then it's 125 then it's 150 I stopped because you're at by what you're able to retain if you fight for it and the things that are going no matter what you do now I've heard there's some Israeli guy who's got this app probably from Laird get this app and you do it you get your eyesight back and sometimes it's about I don't need to try to use something to hold on to everything I want to pick the five or seven things that I definitely want to hold onto and I want to watch the rest of it go in and out with the tides in some ways but if there was a real thing where you could get your eyesight back I'll definitely beyond that I don't think there is Lasix that's not real but I know he doesn't problems you can get it if you have problems but we have macular degeneration is coming from page age-related macular degeneration Lasix but I know people who were wearing glasses and then got Lasix and I don't wear glasses anymore but we never wore glasses I too close up in one eye for distance I've gotten one of the f****** me two weeks later that they don't work what about the loss of a sense that you were accustomed to being fine annoys you what about it yeah I like being able to see things read labels supposed to take money to go up to like a little Lutron pad and have to go like that to me I just it's a gas if someone comes in and says joe-bob I got it we're done come over here it's easier or to supplement or do this for 2 weeks or stop doing this this in this then there's a trade-off yes I've heard of nothing I've heard of this might be our project because you care and I don't so we have a nice balance there is a guy named David Sinclair that I talked to his professor at Harvard that is been encoded with some miracle cure for degeneration and they can detached retinas fix things incredible so they're working on some stuff so maybe in the future you want up to someone's in 1.5 yeah what am I I have a lighted to greener pastures I'm sure there's going to be other issues and hurdles that you're going to go eyesight so maybe in the future you want up to someone's in 1.5 yeah what am I I have a lighted to greener pastures I'm sure there's going to be other issues and hurdles that you're going to go eyesight

bathrooms me confidence what is what does it really mean there's a. Of time where I felt like I did I did the first Iron Man and then I went to Tropic Thunder and then I was doing the first Sherlock and they've my shirt off and itching all over the place and it just felt like I was that was hidden triples no matter what I did and he's confident as you seem and I was like I can't right now I am yeah in and I think this goes I mean this reminds me we were just talking about the McGregor cowboy fight coming up you know it's like it's going to go to that I'm going to watch it watch it you know two brilliant Souls who cannot lose neither one of them can afford to lose this fight wow. Is matchup want to lose but there's this guy who's the the poster child the guy who's the the one right the chosen one. Conor and this cowboy was like I think I can f*** that guy up the journeyman yeah so confidence you know there's been times when I felt I'm in possession of it and then you want to let go a little bit because it's only ever the moment and life guiding you the wind is so at your back door wow are you just are you just you know jumping over the waves and all that by yourself and you're like you bet I am but there's a physics to the moment man moment machine whatever and the winds at your back and then the windows what the f****** windows and it changes and your left there thinking what you know so I think it's great to be in full possession of what you would call Supreme confidence and then see what happens if you don't hold onto it so hard because it's great but it is a bit of an illusion cuz like everything else it's always changing and everyday the reset button the spacebar gets pressed and it's like now what the reset button the movie called the pickup artist with Molly Ringwald defacto producer of it uncredited and taught me a lot about just acting and what it was and he said he said what's your what's your action in this scene and I was like I'm picking up girls what's your action in this scene and I'm driving a car caught flat-footed you guys know your actions you're trying to go to work but you're getting distracted by this addiction you have to try to get laid so your action is your trying to get to work and you should always know what your action is because then when you come in in the morning confident or when you come in the morning to can't hit your ass with both hands you know what to do so it to me one of the great lessons I learned just boil down what it is you're doing whether there's a camera around or just what am I doing today today I'm showing up and I'm trying to be honest and and also to to listen and learn but really my action today is today is I'm beginning a processor promotion I think I remember watching that Madonna movie when he was dating Madonna Truth or Dare and he's hanging around with her or Warren Beatty just real real quick things I would ask him if so what was it like when Carly Simon write the song about you that's got to be a trip so many I mean we should we should do a whole session just about things I learned from Warren Beatty song about you that's got to be a trip so many I mean we should we should do a whole session just about things I learned from Warren Beatty

and honestly to clean the last 15 years when I started really taking martial arts seriously half the stuff that I've been able to do right in my creative life are principles that I learned on the mat with my Seafood you know guard your Center keep trying to leave to get to The Blind Side my started I think I'm in the 15th or 16th year Shifu is over day before yesterday so you know a bunch of times a week and if I'm working on something or if he can make it the location will have long stretches where were doing it everyday and the gradings so you got to prep for those you know it's which is a very underrated art form yes also so many Trade Secrets and so different than how I see it when I'm looking at videos and that in UFC everything is out in the open and it's disgusting you see in a lot of did the Eastern stuff there was a turf wars and we're not really going to show them are footwork we're not going to do this but anyway it's been a real deep dive Seafood Eric Oram who's Seafood my sweet gum was Grandmaster William Cheung Renown kind of Hong Kong rooftop fights all that stuff amazing lower but very technical difficult to build and easy-to-use remove junk he grabs wrist and comes over the top of the elbow she does straight Wing Chun he does it all the time and even practice is on a wooden dummy I got my ass kicked by a wooden dummy for about three years and then I finally understood the principle of don't bite force of force and you know it's just so anyway half the time if I would be in a crib artistic situation I would just say cuz Wing Chun problems are life problems life problems are Wing Chun problems and I would just go back to how did this kind of relate to cuz I don't like getting clocked and get my teeth knocked in because we tend to sometimes we glove up but we're not wearing mouthpieces it's very certainly not because he's very good at pulling his punches and he's also even better at making sure that I don't let me hit him but we get as close as we can to what the the real experience would be but again it's like everything I'm sure you know a few clicks back down the road there's things that instructors were doing that would be considered illegal to do to a group of students nowadays are so it was a normal thing you so did you start training for Sherlock Holmes or you start train before they didn't it absolutely coincided with my recovery and the two things just somehow or other seem to to lock in and talk to you off the Record and everything to do with my recovery as far as watching the dancers in apprentice and apprenticeship and it was an apprenticeship that was contingent on me being in a certain headspace what's a good substitute for negative addictions Bourdain training everyday and he was trained twice a day everyday so he went from when I first met him he was chubby he was smoking cigarettes you drank every night still kind of still drunk every night but you know he just did enough to have healthy things keep his body together and then his ex-wife got really into Jiu-Jitsu and then he decided to follow her one day to classes and he was kind of talking and laughing at it first and then became obsessed and then really got good I mean 81 in the tournament I mean oh my God what's really crazy is a picture of him walking down the street and I think they were in Rome and he has no shirt on and he's f****** repped Anthony Bourdain full six pack shopping up techniques and then you would roll take group classes to which is very very critical role of different people so he was in there like and it became a good thing for him to sort of become addicted to this positive thing yeah I mean for me if it was going to be golf it was going to be something passive like that I hear it's great but it's been it's just been a great gift and it's also the thing where you're just you're never done I'm a black belt five years welcome for another grading and now we're doing a lot of weapons stuff and it's just very young they said that it is a tool for developing a human potential and I never forgot that because it's really difficult to do I call martial arts are really really difficult to get your body to move that way and to be able to be effective in a conflict situation and if you can do any could do it over and over again and you can overcome that circle thing and you thought it was insurmountable and then you figured out how to do it eventually you get to this point you realize what everything in life is like that everything in life is like something that's a puzzle you have to figure out what am I approaching it wrong what what can I do to make it better how do I get more competent at this particular skill or this particular discipline and just the humility to I mean if I've noticed anything in the last couple years gingerbread man back in the 90s and I thought UFC it just start off and I was getting the VHS tapes and watching them and so when they go back on the 25 years ago I was like I've been I've been I've been there from jump that's awesome but we watch it's just that thing of no matter what you think the the tides are changing quickly and was a real wake-up call for a lot of martial artists was the UFC has a lot of the stuff that they were doing really wasn't effective they thought it would be if everybody was playing by the rules in the dojo and sort of following along though but once you really saw an actual cage event where people were just going balls-out you realize a lot of the stuff just doesn't work when I love how messy it was at the beginning matchups were actual cage event where people were just going balls-out realize a lot of the stuff just doesn't work when I love how messy it was at the beginning because it's telling matchups were Sophie almost laughable until you until you saw the violence and no weight classes

that thing you wear around your neck yes being as you are obviously known as being Iron Man are you concerned with wearing a large thing in the exact same spot as though life is funny cuz I was doing this before I ever got fitted for the party so it was more of art imitating Oddball stuff I was doing anyway obviously had that in the comic books Loosely prearranged Destiny and what's incredible is how far afield you can go from it and still find your way back with the whole superheroes reboots and there's so many like how many f****** Spider-Man's have been how many hawks are there been only one Iron Man though you got that goes far what year is it I hear you're Iron Man man on a roll and if anybody else try to be Iron Man we bloody well interesting ly enough East coaster a dad of of some Renown very different my dad was a kind of a underground filmmaker alter Maverick I grew up definitely being Bob Downey seniors kid spend time in Long Island which is I think we're Tony was raised but when when Stanley was really thinking that through she it was the Vietnam era and he was thinking about the military industrial complex he was thinking about how about if I can throw a little bit of not politics in here but karma and he gets trapped no by the own thing and it becomes you know so and that course it was the whole demon in the bottle I think first superhero who ever like had that you know almost like that Jersey cuz he was hammered so I mean the ad that was obviously but I again once something goes your way you can draw all the parallels you want you can call it Destiny but it was it was something that I definitely definitely felt drawn to and I definitely fought for and looking back on I got the part because it turned out to be a pretty special thing inside in a very strange way I mean it's inexorable this point you you know which is why I thought it was cool that you're going to do Doctor Dolittle because I love the fact I like I'm a fan of your work done a lot of great stuff like what and you doing Doctor Dolittle is like a cool yourself seriously but I'm not you know I mean that's a great break because like if your Iron Man like there certain people that for whatever reason become a role and that is it that's what we will accept you are that guy and you're not doing that you're you're you're able to see through your talent and through your ability to take chances you're able to be a bunch of different things as well as be the Iron Man yeah I mean I don't know if I'm noticing I think now it's that it's that we need to shift and we need new challenges and just like anime and society and politics things are moving and more thing in the information age is making things so everything's learning and growing from everything so quickly and then it been proving or disproving or or discounting whatever's happening next but for me I heard that this was on the table my mrs. who's my creator partner in all things instead of Steve gagan I was like that's a big turn for him and we live on a farm we have alpacas and goats and Cooney Cooney pigs and it's just crazy and I was like okay same way I did with Ironman all right there's something here and then before I signed on I was you doing like weirdest Welch doctor I just want to think of I don't want to just do another English accent so there's this guy William price who's a Nutty Welsh doctors in the old rudest he was supposed to believe like we could communicate with all that stuff so I sent a picture of wild looking guy wearing like a superstars on it and like a staff in his hand that looks right to me it's always it you know what I mean it's always that thing of you click and you go here's my here's my sense what are you thinking and then the other the gallery guy says yeah let's lean into that and then go back to this and that anyway you give me some of this and he go yeah and all the sudden you're in a Synergy so I could good interview like a good fight like a good dinner it just kind of crazy look to me yeah to me I just thought that's can do little be like Daddy goes to see have to be that way the whole way through a go know when they find him he's a recluse and then the animals like clean them up and then he looks Less on handsomer where would you live less weird for the kids for the rest of the movie but let's find him like that

is the daughter Ironman totally closed cuz I don't believe it is you guys can go through time now you can go there's do you know you're ready open up that door let me ask you the question if I pick the Jersey back up and put it on wouldn't you feel a little bit like a crap they go through a few semi lackluster Avengers movies without you ready for this where the world's fate is at stake realized they need a super genius and then they figure out how to restart that time machine, is that the audience sees you when you when you step out of that thing is this your income you want a little Ark on it too cuz if this is your idea then you got to show up for it to I'll do it I'll show up to do I don't know we all have to do whatever do that digital thing I'll do it the way people would freak out if you came back. Of time and I was talking to Colin Jost last night who got to sit next to him at the Golden Globes and who was there and you know on the show and with him when he hosted recently I go it's just incredible our culture never encourages taking a break never encourages saying don't chase that thing because you've got it in your hands and and and I love the idea that if you are if you're good at what you do then it's not about time it's about it doesn't matter when you decide to pick up the mantle again it's just about but it's scary isn't it could you imagine like just don't you to show for four years and then come back and do it again you be like in a lifetime who knows he was arguably the greatest of his era and just stopped to stop for 30 years and no one does that no one who's that good and then when you see him some did he receive some reward it was on a panel you do end up sitting in front of Podium Rider brother and he was talking about Bill Cosby and he's doing his routine about them taking away Bill Cosby's Awards and all of us, he do it tomorrow if you could just get up there tomorrow and he be f****** murdering yes and but it would be different different human stuff that he did in the past now it makes me cringe in your can't believe he was that person when he did Delirious I think he was like 22 or something crazy like that anyway lately in relation to a bunch of things but also just that particularly nowadays giving yourself permission to not have to jump cuz you know this strike the iron all that stuff abused and maybe it's just as a bit of an anxiety to the times which I remember to speaking of past Generations I remember grown-up 1974 Nixon's black and white TV getting impeached my dad and his buddies are whooping it up but they're still pissed and I'm going like wow it's it's not worse or or or better it's different but now it's on us so there's urgency question to me starting up again is off the table I feel I've done all I could with that character there would have to be a super compelling argument and a series of events that that made it obvious to it but the other thing is more than what's going on in Washington Thompson talked about that when he was running for sheriff in Aspen he was talking about how local politics like your neighborhood either consumed with it and it becomes a thing they're cheering for the rooting against in and then you know what your your life revolves on something that you have very little power over teams turf wars we moved to Colorado to Rocky Mountain Way he wants told me no speak out of school he said you should just watch TV you have you probably have a really rock solid idea of what's going on his was more trying to have enough things going on that I wouldn't have any ideas for a year and then I give myself a break for you also known as a rock to it it's like they were kicking down doors and light it on fire was different it was an edge to it you know he's he added crazy he had a crazy to this beautiful Harmony and I love it when the guys that added crazy go up to the thin veil between dimensions and say I think I'm going to stay put and then all of a sudden they represent stability they were being okay hanging up your guns yeah I'm just being you know everyone has to accept that at some point in time Riley maybe that's you and your glasses right if does everyone have to accept that at one point time to going to have to get off the ride but when you're doing great and you're kicking it like boxers or a perfect example they always last too long it's only been a small handful like Andre Ward recently Marvelous Marvin Hagler prime it just go that's it I'm done and they actually are done almost every one of them comes back and almost everyone who chases that Dragon hears when I love you you're making an argument for and also the argument against me coming back and doing another I just imagine the moment wherever he goes f****** crazy would be amazing I would love that but I would also love you hanging it up yeah it's 2020 and I'm not an OCD guy but I keep thinking she clearly see clearly and if your vision is going and it's difficult because I feel like we all just get buffeted by feelings and ego or fear the word little you know of resentments or intuitions that are tied to something maybe higher but you think is out of your reach or whatever so give it a perfect time and I got to go have dinner with a bunch of the Marvel folks last night and kind of just a little bit of extra closure cuz you know the movie came out and bananas and the directors are sending me pictures of like people flipping out in theaters when Tony snaps and I was like like a really big cultural thing but then like Victoria Alonso who's the head of the effects are all these movies a literal super-genius or Kevin feige or Favre or Scarlet or some people that I've just been there with it for a long time we we we were there experiencing it all when it came out and then we see each other on the red carpet and it's not intimate and then we kind of haven't really had a chance just to do nothing just hang out and you know have some crude Italian contacts yet so it was really interesting being here today cuz yesterday was this kind of last night was this kind of real-life told like closing the circle on things a bit that's got to be bitter sweet but I liked it that you want to move on and I like that you want them like that you're doing something like Doctor Dolittle cuz that's like you've done a lot of wild s*** in your life you have a lot of while s******* your career but Eucerin body every new chapter with the same kind of energy all those a different result a different piece of art it's all the same you that's one of the more interesting things about people in a particular actors get to be a bunch of different things and it's one of the weirdest things about that craft like when you see you know a guy who's like Daniel Day-Lewis embodies these different humans like literally becomes different humans it's but it's always Daniel Day-Lewis I mean like even though he plays these these with you know that there will be blood guy and all these different Psychopaths and various fascinating characters it's always the energy like you're so your pump to see him do it I think that's the I feel the same way with you like I know there's you're an interesting guys a lot of s*** going on in your head so when you dive into something whatever it is whether it's your character from Tropic Thunder or whatever it is like your dive into something whatever it is whether it's your character from Tropic Thunder or whatever it is like you or you're going to it's going to be Robert Downey jr. diving into something so I would imagine it would be kind of annoying even though you are brilliant at Ironman to stay Ironman

nothing to you bro I forward phone the first white person I'm going to keep trying to keep this like I v I got to bring the Welsh flag in in Wales it was but a long time ago on the first watch black Kodak go to bring you a red dragon no no no how much even my food will trust record in Walking the entire length of the Yangtze river in China to the third longest river in the world the longest to run through a single nation 4000 miles is it to 352 days and it's from the Tibetan plateau in the west of China I took an 5150 2 days end up near the ignition High pulls out into the East China Sea you know what I thought when I heard that you did this I thought to things want to talk this guy's insane like what what kind of willpower does it take to walk and Hike 4000 plus miles but the other kind of validates a lot of the ideas that people have always had about human beings migrating from Africa and through Siberia do the Bering Strait like you can do that what you did what you did is not dissimilar world record imagine you're doing it because you're trying to stay alive and keep your family alive yet yet I tell you what yeah we would have had all this so much so much history in June he's not my kind of Taken it was actually discovered in 2009 the true and scientific Source really yeah that gives us we have to do two over two years of planning so is a case of work and heavily in China finding out whether they said never been done before 8 to we have to get different teams involved globally and then we discovered that I was always I was always preparing to go from the traditional source which is most famous food for the soul given to the planning that I should does a true and scientific tools found by the same guy who mapped the traditional Source yet he pointed it would NASA use the technology was able to correct this wrong it's like you don't give a traditional source which means it's a little bit more sensitive so it was tough to go from from the true and scientific tools for sure but it's a longer distance you've got to do it yeah I agree with you I'm glad you think that way but obviously a person is willing to walk 4000 miles would think that way you wouldn't what happens with the end as well so come to Shanghai there's an official point of where the Yangtze poisons is trying to see another like you know you only have to go to this this point I might know I'm walking to where the land ends salon storm akima so is one of the biggest storms I've had in the past 30 years and not put me into hide and you not to shelter up after everything that I faced over 350 days in a couple days before I crossed into the East China Sea before finish but at that point it's almost I visualized the completion over and over again in my head I played it so many times what it would be like what it feel like it's everything to cross the finish line. Almost not day hop into my dick cross the finish line I almost over visualized I want to get to that I want to get to those but I want to I want to ask you when you decide to plan this trip yet so how much to have you learn from the first two crazy trips that you had and how did you calculate like how much food you're going to need where you going to meet Nick pit stops when you going to be able to acknowledge you do it so with that we're always looking for communities on Long route Community Food and so and actually about to the traditional if we went from the traditional we go maybe one week 1 and 1/2 weeks without coming across and locals so we have to carry a weekend off with Russian personal backpack but that's true and scientific source and his back think it was two or three weeks we couldn't find any Community along the way by satellite and by the people that we were there on my Logistics managers that I know it needs to carry raises way to try to visit people you tracking through a forest yet and then try to get food out say I'm going to way to maximize and as well so it's saying okay past 3 weeks so let's carry food for 3 and 1/2 of 4 weeks. Communities now empty abandoned them without food what what are you caring for food I would carry a Russian tax so the Russian pipes were pretty good we had like chicken tikka masala spaghetti bolognese and are you using our car these dehydrated yeah that was her so just pulled in there about 15 minutes she's craving all of this big-time I know how your body knows what you need stripped of all the all the protein in your body currently have any I think if you fool you're craving ice cream you know before you wanted to say but I think a few now the point of not starvation if you really hungry and you know what's good what's not good I think your body gives a good tale sign if we can the last months of mission Yangtze I was really bad I was coming across cities everyday cuz you can imagine like to watch Shanghai I'm so I was just craving protein I was craving fats and what the times but last month I was just eating really unhealthy scanning starchy foods with protein you know that was fast food chains on the way KFC scream. Scream protein and yeah right did get ridiculous I was going to these you know fast food around like that the translation I could speak Chinese a little bit I was just going to get by dialect the basics on went straight into the sentences where all that Basia are there bear weather for the first 6 months is mostly hiking in the woods it's hiking in the wilderness on the Tibetan Plateau is are you carrying your camp on your back of a bivy sack what are you sleeping you do with a double layer tent so you have provides more insulation and so little heavier or do you have like a really lightweight tent and just try to tough it out in a cold we have I had a double layer but that's because the double layer was just so smooth and so light now and it was a case of yeah you know that's you'll come Fitness your shelter do you have a pad that protects you from the ground yet and then on top of that with the ground though like a do you have to have an insulated pad to get sure that the ground cold doesn't get to you yet the show that's what the the sleeping mud and so it's sort of you can roll it down it's really small weddings I Rely quite as well once you roll it out it's got like memory foam almost inside something similar to blow in it as well the ground never been comfortable camping it's always popping no wake you made it but still feel weird if you do get used to it calories that's not a lot we were carrying how much weight did you lose I probably still lost weight now or above 13/12 to 13 kg self out because towards the end of my Russian popsicles so it's going to cost more restaurants I can collect solo on unsupported Journey so I was just eating with the locals someone to the more nutrient-rich and more calorie-rich they are smaller they all lights are easier to park but I need it as much as I could possibly get in a healthy options those steps in the first steps for the first day that you have this Monumental thing in front of you like what was that like knowing when you started like here ready Alright by ass but it was in the air they were fearing for the high school has the best cuz the wolves kill before we reached a number 140 reach the start line vertical full members of the film crew of guys if I can read taken off the mountains which of the mountains as well cuz I needed to regroup with a different think so everyone was scared and people also got out too soon as I don't want her how high are you up there we all just over 5000 what does 15000 feet right that is about. Yeah yeah yeah 15000 ft tiger shoes and I kept them as well again can we just want to thank you by big smile off we go say we was me and my friend was a videographer Kyle we threatened on but Kyle filmed or that conversation on full months later we find out in Beijing you can speak but he was saying right ahead right down that Valley is a pack of wolves and Only Yesterday best tanks for the next two days we were followed We believe We were followed by a stork by pack of wolves getting out and I need to take of a bigger distance then than humans Shona with you buddy are you worried just going to become a burrito in the middle of the night it was really fun doing this with the Wolves so it's two days that they were following his but we weren't for the best part of two or three months I would say as well right but the locals are telling me otherwise it would start show me photos don't show me videos and send them eclipse in this happened only want to come this way from you or from where you are now who killed who killed just running into hearts and families were trying to say that they coming off the mountain so we were there in the wrong season and you should definitely be panicking is what there's a lot of parts of the world where you have to be really worried about wild animals all the time we here in America for whatever reason we forgotten that I think everybody that lives in the big city is basically kind of forgotten that yeah but when you make that track you realize I go there's no rules out here they'll eat you U2 live they haven't eaten a person lately yeah I need to kill or Susan watch a bear kill a moose on a spotting scope who's looking through a spotting scope and he saw a bear SWAT down the back of amused break its back by terrifying said the grizzly hit the Moose so hard it's snapped its back am I quiet how about the Shish commencing a bear bear swatted that thing broke its back and watch it go down to watch this chases like the altercation between is Baron the moose and he stayed on it and the bear gets a hold of the most just f****** lot wotsit California state flag has a giant grizzly bear in the middle they're nowhere near here you got to go up into like Vancouver British Columbia has what's the British Columbia has a lot of Montana Grizzlies Colorado may or may not my friend Adam saw them there but did not in California anymore it's just because they killed him there's actually a town named after the last guy who died Levesque California the last guy who got killed by a grizzly bear just out Huntin was it almost probably being a dude that was alive back then terrifying experiences in China what what are your precautions are you allowed to bring bear spray so we had an F1 we had to whistle roaches so whistle whistle yeah so they say that the boat the biggest attacks happen from wet bassin's out forming doing a business in the mountains they are in the forest and they surprised they come up the top of the hill play pretty much like a whistle taking a whole make yourself a wet while we make the bad weather that you that your present you're normally they would be if they run away but it was a local. Told me that so they have these big Tibetan Mastiff good wishes like a white felt 10 like he was living in a concrete her I got to call Yard with a fence to fence was open just outside the fences to Beth and must have chained up and he said that this bad wasn't fazed about the to buy must if it was straight past it into the courtyard I was scratching his steel door whilst he was hiding in one of those empty covers Bachmann there monsters have more the real thing grizzly bears and brown bears weren't real and then they were in a movie you'd be like what in the world are there would you going to want to walk for that long so we can even communicate safety numbers on we took a horse for the film crew at film Krueger altitude sickness and left his reports which II name Castor Troy yes stuffing lots of sickness in the being taken off the mountains you go up there schools still suffering with altitude sickness never knew that the funny horses can animals can suffer with us taking off the mountain you go up there schools still suffering without that you think it's never knew that the funny horses can animals can suffer with altitude sickness

MC that video of a I don't know if the girls from China or Japan it's a paternity fake but she's snowboarding and behind I see a bear running video to watch apps that but it looks pretty good then as she's going down the hill and are snowboard at a certain point in time you look and see how f****** bear and she has no idea she's laughing everything is cool and then watch it turns this side again yeah I think you see the bear I'm skeptical because it seems like the I just gave up at that point yeah and that chick is flying I have never snowboarded from what I've heard from my friends when you snowboard and you to break your head to your feet go up in the air and your head goes down yeah it's easy to break your head tiger's chasing behind it almost gets when you call my God what a killing machine and was so beautiful a f*****-up way to die from the most beautiful thing they had created or wasn't a murderous horrific Predator the definitely eat people you was looking and go it was in a movie like Avatar somewhere that a tiger doesn't even look like a real creature it's so beautiful going to be slow and they can run Usain Bolt that's big dude you got a video actually spend my steps as well they have this a photograph of famous photograph of a woman who is a she's a wildlife biologist to put a collar on a test on it and she's holding its foot up and is literally like a huge dinner plate the ftse if you find that picture of biologist holds up that's what they did the Bears cut looks like and she's hardly ever goes that's crazy it's so crazy that nature created that clean up system for the f****** Woods anything with the lamp around places it shouldn't be your having too many babies do I smell them coming to get them done. You are and you're you're out there with these things and you just have a little tent and Noah yeah and no Weapons review or four of you three for the first three weeks and then there was two of us for 4 days then from then on it was pretty much solo most of the way for the first would have Halls of the Expedition then second office super interrupted opened up people with jointed new about it yeah it was pretty big in in China we have Journeys with a Chinese celebrities turn off super interactive opens up people joining us are we going to do about it yeah it was. Went pretty big in in China we have drainage with a Chinese celebrities we walk with you

philosopher in China know I had the difficult situations with the authorities with the police will try to get bribes know they were just I was in a sensitive area you have to get to the source the planning it took of two years so I need government support I need a national park access I needed a green development organization get rid of this access but when when I went through the motions of getting these different organizations on board that would give me access to view properties and allow me to get to the source of the ground official sign do I have to show them how to use a satellite phone call into the Beijing teen uses translation I think the one time they made me delete all of the information on the track information I needed for Guinness World Record delete that is backed up cuz they didn't want to have me Cyn work in this region it was quite sensitive that so I thought I would definitely in China definitely in Shanghai Province just because you got to bet the very close to each other so I needed to make sure I was always in in China but sometimes you get the police, they think that you were a spy or something best schools with nursing a Westerner out here and they said you need to be on the other side of the river so they drove us 40 mile bridge oh yeah it was really tricky this the source around that area really sensitive and you just found that the locals with call the police as well they would radio to the next girl to the next go to the next grandson eventually result phone signal and they will call the police and the police would often woke up at two 3 in the morning at 10 that the location thing on the road at what you doing here so we found out that the locals are amazing very hospitable but they were worried and they didn't know they report it would have been trouble if you don't report it to make that so it came pretty much went from Mission Hennessy to escape escape the sensitive region that we're in but we have to evade the locals cuz we realized it was them calling these two please don't care about me lyrics maybe think that you were an escaped Fugitive essentially or just a game called threat from the future so this is as close to the Tibet and Chinese border luckily didn't this was really sketchy just the Yangtze is just known it cuts for a lot of diversity it's beautiful stunning part one of the beautiful places that are being but not all sensitivity it was really sketchy just the Yangtze is just known it cuts for a lot of diversity it's beautiful stunning part one of the beautiful places that are being but not all sensitivity

if you go to the Congo you got to go walk through the stress that has that giant chimp living in it do you know that the belt that the bundle huge 200-plus pound Champs images of dead ones see if he can go to theirs if you just Google Bondo ape there's some really good to see that one upper left-hand Corner Jamie yeah but that picture I don't think is real I want to say that's fake Congo's giant Bondo ape that's the first evidence of one they were found they they shot this thing and they took pictures of it but I believe that was in the 1930s and then they got another one that they shot at an airport and these guys are opposing with this thing thinks he can find out what that's it at the bottom the very bottom that right there bang look at that go go full-screen the larger so that is this thing that call the Bondo ape and has a Crest on its skull like a gorilla yeah yeah it's not like I did not disclose not shaped like a chimpanzee skull and so go back to the picture please that's okay but because it's not a very clear picture and he's got shot this at an airport and the hog onto I mean the men behind it I don't know how big they are but let's assume they're tiny and they're 5 foot 5 that thing is 510 yeah yeah probably well north of 200 lb champ but that's the cool thing is this is a weird subspecies that's only in this I think it's called Billy in the Congo and they call it these are called the bili ape or they call it the the Bondo ape but it's an enormous trap photo of one of them walking upright and it's about 6 ft tall upper left-hand Corner that one yeah they said by measuring the stuff around it they think that that is a 6ft tall chimpanzee walking through the f****** jungle nasus guide there's a guy named Carl Armand he's a I think it's from Switzerland the wildlife photographer and he spent a considerable amount of time trying to find these things and take photos of them because of all the descriptions death of the natives have these enormous chimpanzees mainly got video of one of them eating a Jaguar they don't know if it killed it or who found it dead but the local is possible but now they have actual video of them not quite chimpanzee when they first got I'm pretty sure they thought it was a hybrid they thought like a gorilla f***** a champ but can I borrow and then now they think it's a totally different subspecies of a chimpanzee so there is Forest so that's where you got to go bro give me the sun. I think the Congo itself is wider than the United States I think there's more land mass in the in the Congo just an amazing and CBC documentary on the Congo from many years ago but they spend 29 x 29 x big in the Congo okay stop. 200 and 342000 square km but the width of it I think it's the with 75 million people images of f****** giant chimp living in there and all kinds of other s*** all all sorts sorts have you seen that shoebill bird that lives there no oh my God the five foot tall dinosaur of a bird is an enormous face spaces like this big and it looks like like it doesn't look real like walking around with the weight of the shoebill will you look I'm in the eye and you're like what the f*** is that is that real that look like the most ferocious looking bird it look like that right there yeah David Attenborough first discovered went to Madagascar elephant bird went extinct how long ago were the eggs were about it about was half a foot with a football Ho Lee fuk I need for big but I came across the elephant bird egg shells they're about this steak is well maybe quarter half a centimeter in sick and thickness and they just scattered across the southern beaches of Madagascar thousands holyshit they're huge how many years ago they went extinct how many of these things have been collected North America the terror Birds now f*** that 7ft tall murderous carnivorous birds that couldn't fly running around North America Birds he's searching overtime in this episode traffic and you just had right there Jamie in the middle yeah I think that was like a a CGI documentary that they had done on one is virtuals I only one click David dangerous as well you know we talkin about people that believe in witches and people that believe in witchcraft like Pac-Man you almost had to have some belief system to keep you going cuz you had no idea it was around the next corner so these Terror birds were alive I believe in human beings are alive right when did these things when were these things alive if I had to guess I'm going to guess they died out million years ago 62 to 1.8 million years ago 62 million to 1.8 temporal range covers from 62 to 1.8 million years ago so I think it's 62 million at 62 years ago do stuff live in living with the camel spider yes giant blob thing Avatar residential short faced bear rdr2 way bigger than a polar bear and super carnivorous they think it might have been the thing that kept human beings from successfully navigating the Trek to the Bering land mass where they went extinct they're huge picture of a guy sitting next to a recreation of a short faced bear and it's it's so big I think people probably hunting them off they don't really know to get an image of a short faced bear that's a ridiculous animal that I don't even know existed until a few years ago oh man you just would not Venture Out imagine how big that is a cartoon comic book version of a bear but you can't believe we're looking at this thing we're literally this thing standing up these gentlemen it was just assumed there somewhere the neighborhood 6 feet tall this thing is their entire height plus a couple of feet so double their entire hitesh Desai plus a couple of feet crossword DQ exert their head this thing standing up and they're at their heads are like right around where his hip bone is although he is on a little bit about 15 feet maybe stay more ridiculous it's ridiculous as it is without him being on a mound why do you have them you trying to make it even crazier it's crazy enough but super predatory yeah African lion that used to live here

you know all that power already like why would I why would he want to be the president just seems like such a f****** hellacious job unless you really feel like he can fix things or he's really going to make a ton of money from it I mean this the guy who played towards the end of my life I was so weird it's so weird cuz it's it's another version of what many people did with Obama in this weird way in that when Obama got in office there was all these are really really irrational people that said all kinds of crazy shouldn't buy a trump was amongst them he was a birther remember for the longest time he was convinced somebody convinced him I don't know who convinced him I don't know if he really relinquish didn't realize he was wrong or if you still hold on to the idea that he ever really believe I don't know you know I don't know but you know who started that whole birthing Hillary Clinton yeah she did that's right that's something was even forget it was during the the campaign between her and Obama when they were trying to get the nomination in 2008 he's Muslim and you know and Trump is ran with that yea or a lot of Republicans did too cuz you know why I guess that's just how they play politics they have something like that they just run with it just so strange to say similar to the name of the guy that crashed those planes and it's ours and somebody have a Joe really good well Road joke I don't know who it was though maybe Tony Hinchcliffe but I mean this is almost as a similar reaction I don't mean it's less it's more rational or less rational what I mean is almost like the energy of the reaction like the energy of the birthers and the guys who were convinced that he was some sort of undercover Muslim and then he was going to get into white house and try to take America down from the inside like that feeling that the amount of energy that way is mirrored now on the left maybe even though you maybe the past I would say probably I might not be right cuz I might not be remembering it perfectly but I feel like the energy on the left of people getting mad at Trump is more powerful or more there's more to it than the energy that I saw four people in the right the water bomb at all but it might just be my memory yeah cuz you know most of the people who were talking s*** about Obama were pretty old write write in a lot of the people now that are pissed are really young so they're more likely to take to the streets and yeah smash things and hold up signs and act wild and s*** and Maze people and they were the protesters, came the next day but wait when Bush was inaugurated the protesters were all there the day of and you-know-who Bush couldn't even do the little traditional walk down the last few blocks of the the journey because there was so many protesters people were just throwing things at the motorcade and s*** so I mean like this is not unusual but that was towards the end I think we're thinking of different ones okay I think I my memories f***** up but I think there was one towards the end where they had planned on having him walk down some long stretch yet they had to abandon it and get him into a car is that the same Towers so right after Clinton same as what you see now because people that had this Democrat and power for 8 years and they thought like yeah and I thought Gore's a shoe-in cuz Clinton popular same as like Hillary's a shoe-in cuz Obama's popular but you know a republican ended up taking it and and they just freaked out and it seems like I'd always just happens I mean like this kind of like backlash like it always is kind of sold to us like this is new this is my all wow look at what's going on now in this crazy what crazy times we live in but it's going back at my memories of the past and it seems like this is pretty par for the course I think you're right now that I'm thinking about it's almost like we go through these like cycles and if a president gets passed one cycle removed from his his tenure then people forgive them they forget and they change their opinion like Reagan was kid Reagan was a pariah like people were so upset about Reagan there were so upset in there was the Contra versus Nicaragua trial that was on television with Oliver North and we're finding out on TV like whether or not the government had sold arms and lied about it and weather and then you know that the whole Dragon thing with one that Reagan sold arms to Iran the great Jimmy tingle hilarious dad comedian Boston has bit about it cuz they was when Reagan start a claim with Alzheimer's or when he claimed memory issues which turned out to be true and you really did have memory issues in to probably get at a time but they asked him did you sell arms to Iraq's that I don't know and chimmy Tangles like mr. president if you ever sell to people who hate us jot it down is like make a note put it on the refrigerator today I sold arms to people who hate me you to hear him say you have to realize though like America's always been a huge arms dealer in we're constantly selling weapons oh yeah I mean like if he if he didn't remember why he did it it's probably because there were just so many other transactions I don't think the president personally get involved too much in that sort of stuff but I'll probably more country sells weapons all over the place and we continue to do that my point was at like eight years later he was the great Ronald Reagan 8 years later Clinton administration everybody's done with Clinton getting his dick sucked in the white house and all that craziness and and then as soon as that's over people start reminiscing to Reagan it's really interesting it's it's really interesting how we do it and so now Bush went through this. Of being hated and he's out of opposite Obama goes to his. Being hated for 8 years and now that an even more unreasonable Republicans office along to the bush day skip doing interviews and like remember this war criminal now he's okay he's Uncle Bush super import what is that protest during the Bush Administration yeah it just happens over and over again and people think it's new and you know for something I think I guess it's it's the country just has a short memory what a crazy show this is what a crazy show we're watching the battle to control the world a political theater working together behind the scenes and it 90% of the issues they agree on they just make a big spectacle of the little things they actually disagree on too you know distract us with a show whatever yeah you know distract us with a show new look America look look at us we're fighting we're fighting have they stopped paying attention Okay now we do the Real Deals who we going to bomb who invade you know who we going to sell weapons to whatever yeah

oh yeah yeah yeah I never predict fights look at the sky look at a bunch of different things to look at damage cage skill motivation and then elect past results and up like with a speed he's very explosive and he tends not guys out like a left-handed where is Cowboy is more of a steady Pace where is on you but can also finish head character has the most finishes in UFC history most submissions I believe you at the most I think 31 makes sense Connor has less miles on them for sure but and cowboys never look better than he's had over the last few years and you give him a fight where you can really get up and this is a fight worth like a really mean this is the red panties night and I always talk about the same superfight feel that any other world you want to see that fight it does the world title I've been arguing this forever is very important it's always good to know tomorrow is mine is the best 170-pound fighter in the world and it's proven because he has the world title in Woodley in the required for a great fight what's required is a great matchup and this is a great matchup visit is a pay-per-view match up like I mean I am could genuinely go eat away as well as the event but if I wasn't working the event I'll be like what is happening here how's that go down go down you know I don't know how it goes down they might be Connor tries to catch him real quick with the straight lap to might be Cowboy takes him down it might be Cowboy tries to kick his legs in the outside it might be you know it might be you know Connor takes a slower approach cuz he thinks that Cowboy strategy is for him to wear himself out in the first round and maybe Conner fights light lightning Xenoverse 2 may be used to prove a point you know who it was a long run just in case will not just cutting but I think he's probably walking around just a little bit over that I know Donald is Donald I think darling in a video said he was walking around somewhere around 177 178 that's not me it's nothing that's a day in the song on Don's on weight and yeah and then Cowboy just rehydrated he's good to go and he's done it a hundred times he's oh yeah cuz those big giant guys like Darren till at 170. size-wise is better than 50 fiber cuz those big giant guys like Darren till at 170 or too little bit too much little bit too powerful light but I think that at 170 with Connor 170 they're both guys were 55 pounds there's not cutting weight

what are these people do for a living at the is livestock so they raise that they Yak Dairy no metes about transport over to the capital city of a day just out that live in the purest way of life I remember walking through the part of my gosh I went over 8 days without seeing a single person Wilderness Outlet did you encounter any wolves wolves wolves thinking this is a person outside like a wild dog vine wasn't aggressive you know you what you get out there and if you hit the right spots of the Gobi desert you'll know what I mean I did I remember I was again in the middle of the Gobi desert hadn't seen anyone days there was no fries that was no flies that was no people that was just I was just looking around I could just hear this a high-pitch humming noise I could still hear it to respond to 10 minutes to figured out that I was like I'm a search the point is silent now so quiet I can hear my own body functioning and that's what he meant there's no such thing as silence silence you can finally hear your own body taken over never hit it before never hit at 7 so what like what are you hearing just a face it humming noise coming from the inside when everyone is just like yeah nothing it's my party taking over so how long you walking to the Gobi desert here in your body when you walk in you for the week can I have some more weight yet yeah so when I was truly effective I went through the water when I was really suffering with the dehydration so at that point the trailer was a lot lighter it was under a hundred kilograms at that point but I'm low on water in a Russian in the last remaining dribbles up to where I make it to the community 33 Cajuns was terrified me a Navy Soldier desert Explorer scuba diving boys I live in on a beach in silence you know so I did have my worries I did start planning on going as well because of that started out myself what made you feel like Mongolia was the wildest place because it was really close like I'm living inside I might nishina light - $10 cyclocross Mongolian wolf pack giveaway in the East and then walk to the west and the lack of preparation so that's why I went back home back to the UK for the right preparation the right training and again as I say no it's not like Vietnam they say the plants that come from Cambodia Vietnam afford it wasn't for any recollection spell Fascination that's when I realize I can find any evidence to suggest anyone has completed Sona support work but they find the guy who previously attempted and he was a nice guy was founded is in the histories what is a nitwit chingas chinggis Khan

I do love. You know that's why I travel to Amazing Stories in that people living in so many different ways they beautiful whoodles to see lots to do and that's why you know Lord is so with Madagascar appointed with the demon that will conservation that goes 60 organizations on the ground helping to protect and preserve to give these expeditions raising awareness about climate change and effects of the house on the nomadic way of life gets so cold out there now that the livestock struggle to survive which means that the nomads are out of work so they moved the capital city to find work but there's no way around it gets free servicenow was smoke that covers the capital city difficult place to live in the winter only and babies are less than three full days after birth. K from the burning plastic and yet just difficult to breathe is all these tents everywhere in the background is he looks like some wall tent but maybe some heart structures listed as a few hard moves there yet different building back there multi-story buildings grow back citation sewage again I don't like hearing that noise access to drinking water proper suit and Colonel heating behind the unique Millennial way of living underground whatever whatever forever the movie stop that please go back up and make that large again what is that a background City what is that do you know it always environmental up my whole first and foremost specially seeing it will you see in its ruler to unite about Madagascar what possibly could it will happen to protect and expand National Park to help to educate the local Supply different me the work protect the species living within highlight like the Press were interesting the journey but I would direct and highlight you know that the real unsung heroes utmost to protect the environment and get that makes you want to do more as well doesn't it you know it seems like it's going to change your frame of reference shifts you seen so many things that most people haven't seen just haven't been to that place and knowing that this massive groups of people that live in like that they're burning plastic in the wintertime try to stay alive how many people live in like that this full million people in Mongolia yet can both doctors get get out the city that you going to lose your child and the people that do stay the older people that must be taking years off your life yeah most likely I'm going in the summer so I can experience in the winter in the summer what year was at a chance that you're going to lose your child and the people that do stay the older people that must be taking years off your life yeah most likely I'm going in the summer so I can experience in the winter than in the summer

Madagascar was a little a little bit different Madagascar was a beautiful country down south is very polished people suffer with malnutrition malaria speak out bad is glaucoma Larry wants to die for me you, Larry, Larry again so you weren't on Larry medication either yeah I was on malaria medication I came across a community that had such an ancient disease they pretty much said I had two guys with me surfing with the plague yeah. Instantly made me feel a Nuvi on that you know that's brought some dogs running around zip being so they would do the cooking and they feel hungry for the next few days we were suffering with diarrhea protecting me from the strain of malaria malaria I like it for me back to the Gobi desert to the symptoms and signs of suffering with that felt like I'm suffering with dehydration all area I think I probably walked for days also with malaria strange malaria, deadliest and usually kills you within 24 hours but I believe it lasted 5 days cuz I was taking that one you can eradicate fully out of your system when you're on the anti-malaria medication you're shittin yourself so you can doesn't stay in your system are you taking more of it when you think you have it I know I wasn't asked a Tazewell overdose cuz you don't know how much Taylor day it was just an experience toxicity because he was taking 5 pills add a member when Justin was talking about that actually research that there's been problems with some troops that get on that anti-malaria medication and they they get really sick from it actually doesn't do something to your brain recycling. yeah that was a malaria drug the drug malaria no more UK after that one side can try today I was the lucky one to survive and then as I pushed on stomach for months to go I got a month one of a 5-month Junie to walk to 720 South to north of Madagascar 738 highest mountain on the way to 255 days is 1600 spider bites hunting Gathering you are hunting and Gathering out there to the local so I have no military background I always try to take a small but you can never take us that's so knowledgeable aikatsu point where they just hated the idea to he was the Cyclone season we were covering we walking about 14 hours a day and we would come and maybe 3 miles if you wanted to just hiking through as s*** dense jungle just hacking through with shade dense jungle

I want to see that yeah but man that mean how many more years do you think Jacques going to fight is38 beat the guy who was going to get the title shot right to be a alternate but here's the thing almighty God five seconds left my God Dude that f****** elbow can we do replay and he's always hurt man Zayed hurt see how he got up and he just Winston Payne what it what did he hurt sweet but never ever seen my God oh my goodness what a f****** K on a beautiful elbow oh my God oh my goodness what a f****** K on a beautiful elbow oh my God oh my God oh my God

Nancy but I wanted to sue me to why do want to tell you he wanted to send me a we were on the same network for a while on YouTube and it was called Polly pop and the guy that was like my assigned I forgot what the positions called of the f****** facilitator or whatever the f*** he had the same one as I did and he told me you know that video you made about Steven Crowder and that that s*** cuz he got in a fight with some union guy on footage and he was like but it's Union Thug I looked at the footage I'm like wait a minute this guy gets up from the ground he's facing away from you look like someone pushed him from behind to see the whole video yeah the beginning of the guy threw a punch at him while the guy was on the f****** ground when one point yeah like what happens with them first I like physically manhandles them on Channel the mustache which guy the mustache did you see that footage there but I saw that you don't see that guy attacked him first you see that guy get up from being on the ground but this guy was maybe pushed and then got up and then started wailing on crowder interesting what I said about it later went to court and a judge look at the footage and kind of came to the same conclusion I did and said I don't think that this went down the way you're saying based on the footage I see any sort of idea bulshit didn't show what he thought it said I should challenge him to debates back in the day not recently but he would never acknowledge me I'm at one time he did send his like little brother after me his brother younger brother is older brother his little brother was like you're a f****** f***** or whatever and like why won't your brother to bait me cuz we were the time on the same network sidebar, he didn't come and try to f*** f****** everything you just talking s*** on Twitter to talk s*** on Twitter to do a debate at the time he wouldn't do it. Seems weird because like he's mr. like I'm going to go like he just Patrol janky or the other day cuz I thought that was funny his his impression of Jen Krueger is f****** fun it is pretty spot the one that he did when he played Anna and Jake back and forth I didn't see that it up he'll let us use it like I like Steven Crowder I do I really do I think is a good guy I just he's a little bit heavy on the right-wing he gets a little silly it like this like the status of any sense of humor about it I was very seriously for some reason look did I already got to be able to make fun of yourself I recently sat down we did this spot we went and watched a bunch of Young Turks videos so we can put out the special drunken peasants versus The Young Turks video we we shot about 5 hours of us watching Young Turks videos and just tearing it apart and one of things I noticed is what jenkel do and and watch for this if you ever watching this s*** he'll have his panels say something that's like super crazy left-wing like someone will say it like animals say it or one of the Steven or whatever or whoever's got on Ben mankiewicz whatever they'll say something that's real far left-wing and then it'll cut to jink and Jake will have more of like a moderate left-wing opinion and then it'll go back to them and they'll immediately capitulate to Jake like so I don't know if that's like by Design or if they're just they feel like they need to capitulate to him because they're scared of him or something or or what is definitely a lot of emotions going on there too so a lot of emotion in the way they describe things that some people I think at least initially connected to that but then they see where it gets problematic if you dealing with any like really serious issue and you want to debate justifacts like and have your ducks in a row Harris debate like most people that was like the first like major chink in the changcuter armor I never know how to pronounce his first names when you said that way I was like you kind of user agreements and they don't handle the best way they could and then those things escalate and they come sound and then it becomes who you are and then you defending who you are and then you're always trying to argue with people about who you are and what you've done and like that's when you're gone yeah that's when you're over the top it's like you're talking about s*** that's happening in the world that's all you're doing that's all any of us are doing what you're doing is you're talking about s*** so if you got a bunch of people listening to you talk it's just talking about s*** the end of the day you don't get any extra points because more people are listening or more people are watching your point isn't more valid your point still has to stand up in the marketplace of ideas yeah then yours is just as valid as his is just as valid as mine if the delivery system is a bigger delivery system it doesn't mean that like everybody has to stop and take you into account because you had more success in this market and when him and Alex Jones battle back and forth between who gets the most viewers and who has the most liked holyshit this is ridiculous like what when did you see when Alex went on to this game King on that's on for talking Alex Jones did you know it's important that guy Jimmy Dore there's some good stuff stuff to put some really good videos up he's done some really good work. played a very deceptive version of the Milo clip and he credited us basically as a podcast and talk about us like we're doing this podcast from a basement somewhere or something that a podcast like yours would like if it was more than that he would have to say the name of the podcast ending of a lot of media did that to us there was like the transcripts of the Milo episode where was like and then unknown host said this like f*** you supposed to be like journalist but then had stuff of yours where they didn't even I didn't know that I thought they'd all the s*** was coming from my podcast cuz I got a text message from my friend Chris McGuire informing me of all of it and so I went and I said well this isn't even my podcast and then I realize like he was on your podcast to and they combine the two different lines going to stop people say like he was on Joe Rogan's drunken peasants podcast like wow people are supposed to trust you for information the media is a f****** joke well the media now is is total f****** J's like a few places we can still trust like where I'm hoping you round the answer the goddamn f****** thing any of these institutions have to say that's what I like like Ice princesses like I mean I mean is smart really

all told of these crazy Journeys have you been on sd3 big giant ones but then there's some other ones yeah so that's the Vietnam Cambodia cyclist checking Himalayas which was a scary ones they said that we needed to buy Puma but we don't believe that we did it was like a way to get money out of it was we would choose to budget Robins right now we can do this let's go towards the border of Indian Himalayas if you come across the Pakistan Army put your thumbs behind the ears and say Alaric be repeatedly I'm not like so that means I'll have mercy reasonable I would say for the night and a hammock shop an option right yeah did you get one no we won't be stuck to the haunted shows cuz we on the bicycle so we will Rose so that wasn't necessarily spiders spiders having so what when you hack into the jungle the jungle canopy and the legion if that's okay so when will it be worried I can feel it you know when it happened because White Witch infected has a lot of aloe vera plants around the strip of the aloe vera really infected with me standing on the rock with a dragon image protected keep it alive and it protects you from the bus spirits and which is of the rainforest the local slice of all about respecting the local culture of course we have to bring a chicken Regina Belle Wale and Grill leave them on top of that mountain so I was his birthday so ridiculous I would like a five year old girl tell us why we need to go truth that is hilarious I said believe in witches which isn't yet I woke up about 2 in the morning that say don't know what time to the morning and it's Max coming in you should have been sleeping right next to it was months wants to talk her from me and leave her the chicken next to Mike's good truth they came in with his machete Monocacy anyway was freaked out we will Feast Oakhurst I have no I don't remember any of that takes the machete and then he chases this which like figure into the jungle runs 100m when she enters the jungle from this appears to be to the he said you start convulsing you woke up reload brother shorty like he's sleepwalking suffered with a 970 Evo and he said no in the only reason that I wasn't convulsing is Gertrude was sleeping next to me breaking self then you know what was going on we're always like a witch project with people that are crazy

guys when I walked up to a community super-friendly really rough and you didn't speak their language it was a man and his wife a girl very weird not nice like squinted eyes like clothes like he's thinking of something you know it looks over to his wife was girlfriend then back to me like his wife and then also quite there and then in hand gestures I know what to do you know do you know. will I leave and they're having a big joke right now and they're laughing away the fact that you know you just never know. I'm going to guess if they live in tents in the middle of nowhere and it's 5 tents and takes forever to get there those people are probably freaks or probably doing some weird freak s*** they probably have no attachment whatsoever to sexuality in this generation this day and age. Stupid going on so probably live in like old-school Mongolians did a little wild sexually like like the Kazakh is more of an area that's closer to what SoCal Zach has the right on the on the border so you got Mongolia sandwich between Russia of North China Town South West. Kazakhstan yeah it will I notice my first trip there as well so I didn't have the money to do a recce like I did with China Madagascar I never been to the country walk over there with the trailer when you show up at someone's 10 to offer something them something for food like how do you how do you work that out I had a piece of paper translated it described who I who I was what I was doing why I'm here and you're hoping they can read in the middle again see a guy looking a mess in Big Bear Down looking in pain looking hungry looking skinny pretty much know she needs shelter food water on people being nice to you that's amazing knocking someone to do you mind if I setup my my 10 and you from going to go back out and please could you give them money for food if they weren't willing to give it to you for free you have what did I take so intense the education purposes they love if you can get that that chili paper pens that kids would just be playing with that you know so you have like a barter thing going on especially if I was sleep in the night I would definitely no no it was offencive to offer the money because you were in their environment and I know I'm sorry if I say I had a guy wants run when we down on Horseback on the distance, speed and it was all just to give me a ball to take away with with t inside I try again distance from a distance just to give me a water so yeah to give the money which at all meeting these people and having them take you in and feed you yeah yeah always incredible it renew your faith in people at all what's up did it renew your faith in people in China that was one that they gave me loads of food they gave me accommodation they've been gave me breakfast they gave me three days worth of food to take away with me on the Yangtze and they just wouldn't accept my money would accept anything that I might know my the best in China that was one like that that they gave me loads of food they gave me accommodation they been gave me breakfast they gave me three days worth of food to take away with me on the Yangtze and they just wouldn't accept my money would accept anything that I might know my the best

they were very young you know there was a time with my two guys we had many crocodile rivers to cross sometimes they would ask the local community and I would say no sex cross and he replied once I've made a deal with the crocodile deal with the crocodile so you going to cross that crocodile-infested River on the hope that some contract has been signed or some country give me fo you know a different way cuz when is white water rapids is not that either than yeah right is the final option this terrifying story about these explorers that were I think they're on the Congo and they touring kayaks in the guy in front of them got attacked by crocodile and the guy watched the crocodile, grab the guy lip the kayak under and then pull hole and then pop the kayak pops up what ended the guy's gone scary scary snatched him out of the kayak and he's right behind no we thought we would again super Vigilant we cross the right places weather was Whitewater and why don't you know rafti and maybe they could have been beloved lucky we didn't see you didn't see them there at all and say no no crocodiles at all no no beat it was bringing over the freedom that I said they were just Cuttin Up here when the people that think they have a deal with crocodiles the real stories of people being taken of course of course Lookout evil that goddamn thing look at doesn't give a f*** about you and no making a deal with a couple of you know laughing at me like even if witches aren't real a bit operate that witches are real they're going to they're going to set these like very specific patterns things are allowed to do and things are not that they're not allowed to do and then at least gives them as idea the Karen that chicken around is protecting up the chickens going to protect you from the bad witches like and they just keep Livin it like you can't take a chance to take a chance and abandon the chicken what did you get killed by a witch life is so sketchy there as it is surrounded by dinosaurs here hacking your way through f****** terrible Forest spear through the skull and again I might a leaf drops that means there's a snake in the tree will need to get out from underneath the second Leaf drops warning us about the spiral down and spear through the skull and again I might

play that f****** while we were just about the food chain with what it must have been like to be an Earl not all these amazing resources that you have at your disposal to help you get to this area that you're going to be a whole different kit and everything extended low-budget Journey to the Mongolia when was so so if you lost your map EB f*** yeah but also the truck that I was on might as well a lot of people say what is hot during the day and he's suffering with the address and why didn't you walk at night time and you could be a Viper's can imagine they can communicate to come across a lucky to come across locals as well that's a point on the one that loved no one point you in that community yeah Patsy muffin compass and just hoping that you can be aware of the people around you open you've got enough water when you make it to another community of settlement where's the jungle harsh environment that the you-know-what spiders Whitesnake was accepted but same time for the water can anybody know where you are yeah I had a tracking device and specially for Mission Tiki with my speed so even if I jump to the car on a bicycle zoom in and you can see my current location within 5 Mi videos live streams photos getting people to join again presenting its schools getting the kids out Kindle DX you really doing that thing with the documentary which way is securing International International was very very well-planned through intensity interactivity like six months of survival 6 months of very well plans through intensity interactivity like six months of survival six months of interacting with all the locals and just Sharon again out there on the radio with GPS systems

why is a underappreciated place for tough motherfukers you know never been more relaxed yeah because it's like $1,000 a month you can live well or something yeah Mel Gibson's got a fat spread their he's telling me he's got like five hundred acres down there tonight I was cool podcast with Mel Gibson stem cell guy on well he wanted to come on and talk about stem cells that's really what he wanted to talk about and so I honored that I said Iron Man you know if that's what you want to talk about your biggest guest. that's really what he wanted to talk about and so I honored that I said Iron Man you know if that's how you want to talk about take easier biggest guest you ever had up there

no it's s*** is those 1965's with the suicide doors come on son you know I'm never that bald I cannot buy one of those cars you controlling around one of those 1965 Lincoln Continental with the suicide doors like holy clear Imperial Crown beautiful picture of that 1966 Chrysler thing now that's a restomod blue Green Hornet all the new one that was the new one with Seth Rogen right yeah I didn't see that one. I want to know the one with that one and we're a little too young for it but people don't understand what an impact Bruce Lee had when he was doing the Green Hornet what people saw him do martial arts moves what he did on screen like people wanna does it mean you have to think about how many people watch a TV show back then like if you had a TV show there's only like three different things to watch right I'll give you had a TV show you had the entire country watching one of three things and you had a Big Show at the Green Hornet was the Green Hornet in on Sunday night so it was it was like stealing at Lawrence Welk on f****** Channel 7 on ABC Liquor just traumatized NBC NBC was traumatized only did 6 episode oh my God it's hilarious to see like old-school bad TV like fight acting like we know the punch didn't hit him in the hair goes flying so weird especially because we're not playing any of the volume so we're just watching it so when you watch the volume you get to really see how Preposterous it is I mean how many TV shows has that got to do from the late sixties all through the 70s my family I like being pissed because I miss Bruce Lee then they canceled it you didn't see nothing about Bruce Lee again route how long was it between dad and the big movies it was about a year-and-a-half that kung fu movies with mainstream about Five Fingers of Death came out no the yeah it was all about the iron Palm technique the guy would look at you in his palm turn pink and that started with that and then Fist of Fury came out but I'm not going to lie to you and tell you I went to see Fist of Fury in the movie dude I don't remember when Chinese connection came out that's what changed the ball game but see it pisses me off today you know when I see f****** people 20 years old talkin about the impact of Bruce Lee or whatever he was going to beat Muhammad Ali it was you know whatever was Bruce Lee Bruce Lee meant that the little guy had hope Bruce Lee gave the Immigrant hope you know that's what all these guys thought everybody you know I get all these guys out with Bruce Lee f****** it changed everybody but a little bounce in the step martial arts change martial arts but he gave you hope the movie theaters with packed martial arts schools were packed black people going crazy because nobody something anymore

suck my dick I'm going to go ahead and give you 150% but I'm going to go up there and try new shitt last night was talking about that we've all is men at one time or another me to somebody that's how you learn not to be a me do it is by me doing somebody one time and then you go that wasn't right and then I'll never meet you again for me I was weird adjectives all I started out with it I opened up with it to really put myself in the f****** hold of that me to one is it a verb to meet to somebody like you learned how to make you learn how to not be a shoplifter candy when you were a kid an embassy in Taiwan whatever they bombed what was that famous Fatty Arbuckle case where there was a good deterrent for this is disgusting people out of we're all me to somebody when you were a kid by mistake after me I was in love with this lady named fat she was thirty-seven that big juicy tits should wear hot pants I was about fourteen I never even seen a vagina no titties nothing and we used to play basketball or two dogs are blind shed French poodles and she and flip-flops and she crossed the street and she was so hard she was 38 and she had a husband that dude from Texas that was f****** Howard Marshall I can watch it cuz he knew we were Savages really think that the house she had two daughters and the daughters were badass and but one of my Boombox dated one of the daughters I never told him I was a time I play basketball and she turned crazy I was 13-14 I looked through that I see you in the winter with pants aren't you a delicious and finally summer f****** 79 I'm getting off locked up with some friends of mine and out with drinking f****** nips we snorted some angel dust and we'll listen to Led Zeppelin II if you going to f*** anybody Led Zeppelin II is the album to get you on that starts off at whole lot of love. Just get your hips moving squeeze me baby through the juice runs down my leg I'm like that set that uses running down my leg connect my mother was a flower checks yet flowers everywhere I put on like a shirt I swear to God it had to be about that because she would walk the dog at night but the husband was the last she would put them down and kind of blind f****** tighty whities you know the defense Dixie Deuce Daisy and I remember being like that with the flowers at flowers I was with bringing flowers but my plan was to attack it like this Jumper in the thing throw it down and give her the flowers like I couldn't take it no more like I wanted to marry her like that tile f***** up I win you angel dust and I was on Angel this is what I would THC Crystal call it what you want it's animal tranquilizer no matter how you look at it and I remember that I ran up on her and she turned out what's going on and I say I'm in love with you let's get a job let's let's leave and she's looking at me like like like I was retarded first you've been drinking I still love you take the flowers and she was I tell you what if I divorce my husband are considerate and I was like okay I'll give you a kiss on the cheek juicy his legs in the world I hope I touch your thigh and he goes go ahead and Joe Rogan ditech like her kneecap and my dick just exploded sperm I ran away like Steven Seagal ever see Steven Seagal running I thought you thought I had to do was go ahead and Joe Rogan I text like tiny cat and my dick just exploded sperm I ran away like Steven Seagal ever see Steven Seagal running runs like a bug

I want to ask you a question couple weeks ago Disney plus permit two days later people throwing fits what do you want them to do to go back and take all this s*** out of his own movies do you ever go to Disneyland you have that one ride what is it a Splash Mountain yes that's Splash Mountain ride is based on a movie that you can't even watch anymore cuz it was a really racist movie I don't know I don't know Disney World Splash Mountain was mrs. this is this called The Song of the South that was the movie and then from what year is that Jamie no you got to look this up she sang songs that were like totally racist like spooky get out of town like s*** like this please look it up right now out at Yankee Stadium 1931 song she sang this in 1931 yeah how old is this b**** but she also strongly sing a song called that's my dog he's aboard I was confused thinking you were saying that she sang it at all lyrics someone had to pick cotton someone at the pick the corn someone has to be a slave or somebody had to sing that's why darkies were born that you know I mean all these things and was a big hit for Smith and also was recorded by Paul Robeson so she wrote and sang God Bless America for the version that you would hear like that you would hear would be back then right great people over the years and have had some horrible ideas does he have to wonder like like if we just cut out the guy great people over the years and have had some horrible ideas does he have to wonder like like if we just cut out the guy I mean how many people different people who invented incredible things we use all the time we're also really shity human beings

Steven Seagal run is a couple for you busy I'm running my runs very strange what's very tall what's the first one he did that's really good one of the law which is kind of confusing because now he's got more hair runs around because what does Japanese people 3000 years to put Aikido on the map which is not realistic popshit hit the fan if we go back and you know if we get knocked into the Stone Age nuclear war with Russia play give me the beat now I need the joint again now. different level at how black are hard that throat slam oh yeah he's got the deflection throat phlegm that's f****** beautiful had a meeting with a guy in a in a movie there's just like my agent sent me into me with his car they were looking for someone to do like a Steven Seagal type movie they were looking to they're going to try to create an action star and we actually had like a argument about this movie that move right there but the last movie Above the Law and the one he f***** up the Jamaicans Jesus Christ loved it I love you too I love them too I love this thing about him and his I thinking that first movie it was one of the more unique martial arts movies like above the law like it's almost a shame that he made a bunch of movies at Warren is good because if you go back to Above the Law in terms of like martial arts history and above the law is a legitimate store movie in terms of martial arts movies because he was the first movie where you got to see a real Aikido practitioner with a hybrid system of martial arts are kiwis doing Aikido but he was also throwing a lot of punches and 9 pan strikes in a lot of strikes it wasn't you. It showed the bodega for you and above the law his Aikido skills were very legit he was very legit weather not that stuff's really not that's the subject for debate whether or not it's really effective when you look at other things like wrestling and Jiu-Jitsu is it the most effective way to grow or Judo is the most effective I know it's not but no one knew that back then and he at the time in the 1980s and 90s was a world-class martial artist he just had a style but old didn't really prove to be the best stop but so did I but I always doing tiger this is hard to kill a lot of people doing Kung Fu a lot of people doing things that they thought were legit but they really wants the UFC came around we found that all this is not the best way to do it. This is 87 seen that was just in the movie with Clint Eastwood the mule he's been doing movies for f****** 30 years I can't right now. I do with the tattoos how many f****** movies is he right now I do with the tattoos how many f****** movies has he been a bad guy in right there the second guy that got to

YouTube dolomites yet well well what happened to David tell David Tao is getting stronger every week what you looking at some f****** idiot jumping up and down on Netflix David Talent is getting stronger and stronger when you go see David talk it's like people going crazy right now but Uncle Jim he's got something for your ass minimum to go you don't want thank God because people think that will like f****** mooses common I'll hit you from f****** 90 different direction you could just back b**** we could do it all and when we get 30 years under our belt we become weapons like Jimmy Smits like only of these people that have been doing it for 30 plus f****** years eventually I so I won't see that a disrespectful Bruce Lee I saw the joke I just don't even want to go there with no ass if you didn't f****** glitch through it I don't want to hear his f****** take on it it's not a it doesn't make sense that disrespected Shannon's that means that disrespected me you and you disrespected my f****** Powell and now you're not even know Shannon Lee watch The Joker I liked it sometimes I like to joke that was intense I saw Alka jumps during the break I want to Christmas night my f****** girls went to sleep so I can split over to the Laemmle 8-3 Edibles and my heart was beating with that f****** cuz that movie's Joey Diaz 83-84 whatever you want to do we're going to do what do you want to do with your Joe Rogan listen I got my I got something coming next week or next week or next week and put this number in you're borrowing from Peter to pay Paul and then you telling Jesus to suck your dick it's not stop bumping into all what happened to my 30 next week I got to go yeah you m*********** you know it's f****** constant it's you know that life is an Academy Award winner I don't f****** know I took it home okay I like the Irishman you didn't see it yet either so now got your skin for 3 hours what are you doing this place you look at it in any which way for him to go to sleep and you go to sleep you f*** you get that for my watch these three-hour movies I can't watch him at home I got a 7 year old

I want to talk about that the Netflix show don't f*** with cats I keep forgetting don't fuk with cats this is why is rule number one that they told me when I moved from Cuba to a rock at a cat when they the black guy with the motherfuker you got gas what did you get me involved in each of these it's called Don't fuk with you don't fuk with cats he's like three episodes was doing some of that why you think I believe so yeah yeah I think it's called don't f*** with cats Michael Bolton has come back because of the Epstein family Michael Badin Badin yeah porcelain New Jersey belong to a woman the guy did a great job he caught a waste he cut her arms I hadn't and he threw a whole body into the ocean and sharks got everything except the Torso torso just washed up in Seaside Heights or some Jersey Shore time remember this episode what deep into the murky Waters you also wanting to his stomach and the food that she had eat madman process so there were certain clam it was a certain type of clam that couldn't be found it wasn't that and it could either been Boston to New Jersey I'm not putting the blame I know but I write I remember this so he found out her whereabouts you found that he called like every restaurant in that area to see who would have that specific type bought the killer because he paid for with his credit card well so he went and found out this Pacific clam what restaurant in that area is sold it and that's what she had enough stomach they wanted cherrystones of the other ones there the other ones there was the most horrific story from that one one episode where they had this guy believe he was a doctor and he was infatuated with this woman was his patient and when she died he get married or once I'm done with or something like that it is some kind of relationship with her he dug up her body and kept it in his house and it put a tube where her vagina is so we could still have sex with her and he was buying cases and cases of perfume and I think that's what I tip people off this guy was buying cases of perfume cuz she was rotting in his bed so he would cover her with perfume HBO autopsy Jeffrey Epstein and he finds out that there's breaks and Jeffrey Epstein's neck that is he's never seen ever in a hanging and only seen from strangulation only super murders resume self against the wall and went down with really the neck had blood but the f****** thing than that blood on it it's such a horrible f****** thing yeah the cops the overtime they had been working the tapes got shut off how about the fact that they deleted the first tapes it's so he went he had an original attempt on his life and then if they are the second one and they can't find the tapes the second one and then they accidentally deleted the tapes in the first one I mean this was not 1930 its 2020 they can get away with that in 2020 I mean I don't know how far anyone's going to track this down how how far like how motivated they are the reason why he got arrested in the first place is because people did talk about it and they did get motivated to do something because it would kind of guy get arrested for having sex with underage kids and then only get like 13 months and then doing that 13 months he had to be basically like he just had a return at night right and didn't he had the ability to travel and go where we wanted it 16 hours like work release for the day to go to the office to do what you did literally all you do is sleep there every night so was it an inconvenience and inconvenience for him and everybody's like what and then when you start thinking about the stories and the jet in the island and all all the craziness like this is not a movie this is real Island we're at an intelligence agent would take scientists and heads of state and they would bang checks that intelligence thing is I'll just a strong rumor because it's only been mentioned by a few people in like that ABC report didn't mention at all maybe they left it out that wasn't that was intelligent who is above his pay grade Acosta

my first got his a hot book was you'll never work in this town again it was a hookah who f****** did a tell-all book about Don Henley calling it up to a house and had a bend over and Don Henley with snort coke off their assholes do you know she told all those stories a different movies would be like that I would be disappointed if you lived any other way I would think that if you're living back then to Rockstar back then like you almost were required to do something ridiculous like everybody was doing ridiculous s*** like no there was no like clean and sober rockstars back that were there like that hasn't even happened yet where people cleaned up my people clean up regularly now that's a big part of society let people improve people cleaned up back in the day right like artists artists that were like really into drugs they just died suicide or whatever depending on which documentary you're into the bill of ladings you know put 12 f****** 12 feet piping a truck wiring screws and it was it one f****** drive a brown that was 45 years old and his wife was 15 low and you would bring it to work with you if you looked at them you could tell he wasn't all that and I'm a massive I just dissed your daughter is down as my wife because she's 15 14 years are the parents sold it to me Jesus Christ I forgot what his name was awake going to throw him under the jail when they get rid of a fish would help our Kelly if you think we wine stains in trouble at least how we got some Harvey Harvey at least he's got some money left Kelly's done and like we were f****** nobody said nothing R.Kelly used bribed to marry Aaliyah when she was 15 charges say you brought me over an employee 1994 so that he could obtain a fake ID for the singer Aaliyah yeah right he was holding woman captive f****** with the head you're not allowed to talk to your parents is it all look in the 15th season 2 is that weasel yet they got the video the little girl was last week and he comes across to you he he is professional is with listen some people don't want to deal when they see one and that's what these women are saying that his professional his skill is the art of the Wounded Woman and then he plays wounded but then let me know what would you talk to me that within the first day of so it's not as he starts at that you start with your story about your Uncle and he's going to take care of you and he's going to do this in this so that's how he went in the stories at these woman the saying I just f****** crazy like it's just other level f****** crazy my manipulation you know it's just deep old school pimp American that was the Hughes Brothers just that mentality or spotting those type of women you know it's f***** up but it's horrible and I feel terrible about it and it just makes me feel sick here in the story but what makes me laugh is if we found out that J.Lo has been captured 15 year old boys and pissing in the face we would take it was hilarious hip JLo went to high school and she got all these sophomores and she brought him back to her place for a g******* these kids had a good f****** time that is what it's it's one of those big giant differences between the way we feel about men and women this R.Kelly thing is horrible but it is it is kind of funny that if R.Kelly was like a really beautiful woman and she she was doing the exact same thing to 15 year old boys make him live with her and eat her p**** and Shay what they'd cellarius we would just think it's hilarious. does not read a right exceedingly well except when it come to amazing musical tracks his attorney said okay he doesn't read or write well not sad the whole thinks that if it is weird ideas of sex based on gender it's f****** very different very different about that story they'll be a hilarious story if there is some big tittied freak singer who has Loyola call Sebring 15 16 year old boys over we would really we would be like wow we would really we would be like wow Boon feel like a crime committed another 16 year old teacher sucks a dick you know but then you think Jesus Christ I have a daughter who swings both ways

have you been molested by a Boy Scout or a f****** priest call this number it's never too late by blah blah blah blah blah Hillary in the church the people that are believers the people that love to dress up nice and go and behaved kind and and and see all the people in the community at the church there's a good feeling that people get from going to church but the fact is connected to that is it's it's so insane that it's still there it's so insane that it hasn't been rooted out but this is still a giant problem and relatively few people are going to do like a relatively few like you know who they wanted they wanted that ratzinger that Pope ratzinger that's one of the reasons why he had to step down and other reasons why he stays in the Vatican I was reading some article about them bringing up charges of crimes against humanity against it that other countries wanted to do that because this case to ship kids or he's to ship priests to places where they wouldn't get in trouble at the others one guy was accused of molesting boys and so we ship them to this place where you work with Dad death kids a molested over a hundred deaf kids so what did you do like you who shipped a child molester to bunch of people that wouldn't be able to talk about it well but you'd be able to get away with it easier there if they settle a case that means it doesn't get prosecuted right so that's why they won't go to jail is that why they haven't gone to jail I don't understand it Jenna Court like they don't keep Prosecuting I guess if you make us like the person decides to drop charges if there was a guy mission where everybody for the most part is like a humble around them and scared of them and they have power like I remember when my grandmother died we went to a funeral and the guy couldn't remember name my grandma's name is Josephine he kept calling her Geraldine and the priest who was delivering the service we had to interrupt them sites Josephine and he was like annoyed but they interrupt him so I can yes Josephine like he he changed the network he didn't even know her name and when he's there to deliver this God's message for the last you know last time the family's going to view the body and he doesn't know her name and when he was corrected he was angry at us like he had these Gin Blossoms all over his face he's just some weird old guy who got tricked into this very change life and now it said attend and he's been living with robes on supposedly being celibate so f****** life while people kiss his ass pretend to be something special because he talks about the word of God but you just seen that one moment where he wasn't even embarrassed that he said the wrong name he was upset that people were correcting him cuz you don't correct priests so he's used to that so there's no one checking him there's no one checking them at all everyone who goes there is in this state of worship and they're the ones who deliver the word of God dressed like Wizards like they're the only people in society that are allowed to dress like Wizards in modern American society they dress like f****** Wizards and we'll like yeah that's how he father dresses father dresses like a wizard like but you know how people going to look back at that and go why didn't they think the outfits were weird why didn't they think it was silly that this pedophile dresses up like a wizard and you're not supposed to say anything to him what is that like what is what what is what the outfits the fact that all that s*** still around I just know where in the Bible that says priests have to dress like that no one know where the whole thing is topaz are its you wearing stuff that made you look like you were very special to really poor people 500 years ago that's what you're wearing you wearing stuff that would impress people that do any better than probably couldn't read and so before Martin Luther translated these the the scriptures so the people can read it like a phonetic language before that people have no idea what the priests were reading they just relied on the priest they relied on the priest to tell them what the word of God was now so they could read it for themselves and Martin Luther was saying eat yourself to call my God play something Used to Be Alive until I can really remember they would say something cuz I remember I be 5 years old in the f*** are they aggressive I believe I believe in God I believe that my father was in heaven I believe that I punish it then I got to do is the Catholic school and not just f****** I'm completely because I believe but I didn't believe on the tail end of it if it was supposed to be loving lies is non smacking me why is it not hitting me with a f****** ruler what was the underlying and then I saw the anger in their heart and it turned me off completely like I didn't like it today I'm Still A Guy some boards when my body goes like to go through f****** Church you know but I don't hold it I remember selling cars and Boulder and a guy came in and we started talking and he was 50 wasn't a good-looking guy look like that f****** guy in Hammock I want to hear old chick with them obviously have to take a demo ride I figured out that he could f*** her and s*** somewhere that cuz I've been eating I realize that he was f****** her she was like his receptionist to something okay but act when we got back house for realize you was my father-in-law's friend so has my phone or bottom he didn't finish on the board of the church was he's a great man and I still remember him if this was Sacred Heart Church in Boulder Colorado on the fact that it's the same church the head of the football team with the bill McCarthy and all that should I see is f****** family there and handle all sitting in this f****** scumbag what's in the second view what is that f****** ugly wife you know she had lovely is f****** wife in the f****** Church they would hit it with the net with that money that they were just headed would like f*** you just ugly but the point was that I never respected that you cheating on your wife but then again you're right they're playing the f****** I'm a good guy f****** wife in the f****** Church they would hit her with the net but that money that they were just headed would have like four accused ugly but the point was that I never respected it that you cheating on your wife isn't even your right they're playing the f****** I'm a good guy

you bring up some really fascinating subjects and we were talking right before the podcast about social media and how weird it is that you got lumped in with the alt right for a comment saying something along the lines of that you find what was the exact quote something on the highly intelligent people seem to which not saying they're good people. equate them with the skinheads and neo-nazis carrying the tiki torches in Internet discussion groups I know some of them former students and some of them are highly intelligent but that's not what people think of when they think of you start that movement I had a fetus but so many people jumped on it as if you were endorsing the alt-right is an exact quote you were just basically saying something one wants of a lot of intelligent people that are involved in this privy to the truth that the establishment can't handle you can't handle the truth and since it was never discussed in the open there are no counter-arguments to some of the most toxic interpretations and so the alt-right can run with the never never having been in a forum where these things are debated and criticized put into context they take like one fact and then they draw the most extreme conclusions if these things were debated in the first place that you realized average differences between men and women and a lot of psychological traits if that's quite taboo and intellectual circles for I think bizarre reason women's rights depend on men and women being indistinguishable whatever trade you name that men on average are better at than women or vice-versa there are a lot of women who are better than a lot of men or vice versa. So you can't really judge an individual from the average of that there was there sex also even though there are some traits We're Men score will better than women there someplace where women score blue better than men and that that's the complete picture but the thing is it if the entire subject is out of bounds you never get a complete picture what were your thoughts on how the subject got out of bounds cuz it's it's very confusing to me that certain subjects like the differences between genders are so taboo when they seem so obvious and you just could go to the mall and just look at the way the men dress in the women dress you wore the some obvious distinctions here fit men with intellectual in women we're not in women were governed by their emotions and there we thought too much it would take blood away from their ovaries and that woman they wouldn't be fertile and then maybe I'll miserable really like crazy stuff and has a reaction to that in the 70s when the second wave of feminism became prominent it became almost an article of faith that there were no differences between men and women and so if you say that their differences between total non-sequitur because fairness is not the same as sameness obviously women should have equal rights to men whether or not they're caught exact copies of man or have distinctive profile as men have a distinct profile but it was just a mistake to to complete the issue of women's rights with men and women being identical but that's the way it kind of shook out and it became kind of an article of faith in in a lot of in some feminists some liberal circles that many women have to be identical and they aren't that means you're Trader youv2 to women's equality obit about out of my art when we're looking at the reaction to this though what was strange to me was how many people seemed like they wanted to jump on board and criticize you and I think a lot of it is almost like to take away some of the potential criticism of themselves like it's instant claiming of the moral High Ground virtue signaling and it's just very disappointed when you see this from intellectuals and college professors and it is better too much trouble from from my peers and among the professor's grad students under a couple of trolls who who who ran with it the buy a large the mainstream reaction was it was almost a sign of the New York Times put it that social media is making us stupid subtle discussions does discussions that involve Nuance like complicated issues that are complex that they require a long-distance sort of description of the issue and a very complex sort of take on these various differences between men and women and the alt right and the left and political breakfast something that you can smash into a very short soundbite and completely cover your take on things all the more reason that they shouldn't be taboo because he I can't discuss them then the only interpretation you can have as a simplistic one if you could bring them out in the open and you can start to have that discussion

I'm going to do podcast and him with subtitles in Spanish that I'm bringing him up here on Friday in Spanish with subtitles and then I'm going to bring him up here on Friday and willing to have a 3-way about Cuba what it was like the rest on the whole thing if you don't mind it would be a real haven't met you can really throw him out of the Oaks Rush agua or Russia and you train and that's why a lot of Cubans are judokas because they go to rush and learn Judo why so he will tell you how they shipped him off and it'll just tell your mom like we'll take him tomorrow that was what a lot of people did George St-Pierre success and wrestling in the Georgian wrestling college or in high school but he trained with a bunch of Russian Nationals in Montreal and apparently phenomenal wrestlers they have this incredible wrestling program like when you see when you see nurmagomedov the way he malls people inside the Octagon like what in the f*** like that is like a perfect example that likes style of super hard super technical wrestling they're so good at it this so many lomachenko used to be a wrestler videos it looks like he's got like a Gyan and it's him and some other cat and he's like 11 years old or something like that but his father put him in everything his father made him you know lomachenko is literally one of the most technically beautiful to watch boxers that's ever lived with this guy used to wrestle to okay is this him wrestling with somebody yeah this is one now we can still do this s*** this is like pretty recent like you showed some of his wrestling moves but the other one was him when he was a little boy like he's really tactical man he knows how to wrestle this is legit I can you see the way he's moving his body is not faking that he's done that a bunch of times and he had this one when he's a little kid man it says Greco-Roman wrestling exactly sure what it is but he gets his kid and gets behind him and send him for a ride so he was he's always been an amazing athlete like in every I think there's there's something to that there's something to his father had an idea to crazy ideas father took him out of boxing and put them in a dance for like several years Ukrainian traditional dance style apparently they were talking about it on one of those HBO shows but for four years I think he just danced imagine that as far as like you want to learn how to box you got to dance and now nobody's got for Clerk people did ballet did you ever think of the GSP but you know me on my PS3 probably f****** not ballet but he's one step ahead of you at every turn like he knows what you're going to do right while you're doing it he's moving in the way that you can't move he's in front of you and then he's not it's crazy like he's the one of the most Technic boxers I've ever seen it just an amazing stylistic achievement like what he can do with his body his style totally unique I mean every but a lot of guys have done it a lot of guys have moved in a lot of guys have done it but he doing it at such a high level such a high level that it makes people confused guys quit in their Corner they like what in the f*** and I really think a lot of it probably had to do with his father's cross training and it particularly with the dance I mean think about how effortlessly he goes like Steps around guys I mean he's got some incredible control of his feet but it makes sense that like you would learn how to move your feet in a specific way the weren't the way you weren't learn how to move your hands in a specific way right like think about a guy like Floyd Mayweather write his hand combinations with his upper body there so precise is 70% or 80% lomachenko's probably perfectly proportioned for his style with his ability to move but also also his ability to box and hit you well he's got both things going on at the same time with Next Level angles so that's why I was saying what I was hearing back from them in the early 70s was like they just took you away from your family that I was part of your training you know your then they put you in there go ahead and do you know what you train them like their army have you talked to you about this I already have graphics on the podcast I figured that I put them up and we'll do a podcast whatever one of those movies people think of unique okay there you have it because his his English is too rough for me and I know what he's trying to say in the frustration in his face Buick Romeros back see if you can find these nuts

I got a little apartment with stash that you have a couple saves you have to have if the cops ain't going to let you deposit you got to be f****** creative if you read all these guys Stories the hardest that you're up and you think about that problem I just on a plane you can when you're on a plane and Tom Cruise's on you got to give him the benefit of the doubt with me I watch The Barry seal thing for million shot like me and you are this did Barry seal die with George Bush's phone number in his pocket that's there we said and he died they shot them on the way to the trial with George Bush's phone number in his pocket while he was top-notch that guy he had it all he seen it took pictures and Nicaragua I can't do they f*** them in the ass they told that they wouldn't release the pictures then they released the pictures was douching that's why they got shot. They should have taken him and heading to me f****** interesting though there's some sort of illegal government with the people around how the ground that wasn't me and here's the problem this is where Eddie Bravo comes in right they were Landing in those Everglades know quote me on that he broke it down for me and somebody else broke down on your boys clock Clinton Clinton that's that's the theory and the coroner the official report they gave to the parents was that they had fallen asleep on the train tracks so the parents pay for some sort of an autopsy and it's revealed that the kid had been stabbed and then one of them had been stabbed and then they find out that around that same area was where those guys would drop their drugs before they landed they would parachute down there drugs they would like and they would land and these guys they would drop points where they would put their s*** and then someone else would come by and pick it up on the ground as you act right and these kids apparently saw something they weren't supposed to see so they f****** murder these kids with knife in the coroner was all in on it so they had to conduct some sort of Independence so that is what Got This Hold Barry seals things going it was this lady trying to figure out this both parents trying to figure out what happened to their kids that these guys were getting it don't let's just wrong number I'm I mean I'm just an idiot but let's just draw number they were probably getting $4,000 per kilo what would they put on those plans and they were sending five of those planes over a day and dropping them in the Louisiana this one it listen they found the Dead next door go bag filled with cocaine and Aspen Colorado in the mountains because they would drop in the f****** Coke in the mountains Barry seal Michael and corrupting... That's how much he was getting for that family in 800,000 but one f****** loan I answered and I see everything but now this is your Uncle Joey talkin to you Joe Rogan you never brought up but you have to assume okay you you see all these shows in the whole f****** thing and they were in bed for Sherwood Nicaragua or is it people everyone it is it's bring it in are they complicit or are they just Cowboys season series always been that there's been these few Cowboys corrupt guys maybe they get too close to drug deals to Kroger close to the drug dealer lending sometimes they get seduced by cuz there's a many many stories of undercover undercover cops getting seduced by the actual lifestyle being a criminal young kids probably a little crying themselves Here There and seeing some guy that came out about Baltimore what it what is the city where cops head and it came out and trial that kept toy guns on them to plant at the scene of a crime like they just decided she was tricked into going down that I really control you can't be this saying you as an American you can't be this dumb with General North he was in on the Prairie Columbia and everything in all these TV shows know he was on an island snorting coke with long hair talking like Jim Morrison and having f****** threesome and the f****** sanzone cartel gave laid are up to the to keep them off their back it was five Partners it's me you Jamie and red band the f****** red bands out there doing videos snorting coke with a f****** pigeon on his head we can't have this they gave the DEA f****** Carlos that cut like calm things down for a while when the in 83 and 84 when Reagan sent his troops down there don't quote me on the dates here but I will tell you as a professional cocaine sniffer what was going on in 85 the price of cocaine when skyrocketing skyrocketing it was because the cocaine was coming in but the toughest part was getting the ether alcohol into Columbia to process it the Colombians had got a tip that the there was a truthful coming down the road there jungles now what they have not told you and all these shows and research but this is Uncle Joe is going to drop on you is where do you think they took one of them they took some labs to Nicaragua sexual partner up with them to your body Fidel Fidel was shipping it in yet he's going to be on the podcast in 3 weeks can you imagine that infidelity podcast Infidel you told my God this whole block

all that old strip you got to be careful what you walk into you got to be careful to place I go to which is f****** tremendous just to show you and if you need a massage they got like whatever down the street they got all the too tight they got all the massage massage envy busy they usually have the one they have but they have a f****** happy I got turned on for this mad you just do that to do the elbow on your back and stuff I got turned on to this by f****** put your feet in the buckets they rub you down and do your shoulders your neck sometimes I don't even I don't want people rubbing my feet I got that f****** fungi till now I even got to do the Groupon to get a blow-torched really as you go up in the valley and the lady comes she sticks a thing under your nail and they blow hot another lady comes in and they got masks is hysterical and she comes in with blowing cold air like chiroprac cryotherapy typepad they tried to burn the fungus off all my garbage don't work on that was on Friday doesn't work let me show you the other one vacation but I don't know if my kidneys can handle it because the blood pressure medication you can't you have to take a fungi thing that zaps it but I took one that I tried this app and it still didn't kill it it's raining applied topically or does it have to be a pill talk I've done everything play some nights when I'm bored I got it might take the grinder to at night grinding until I Coke powder and it grinds down you have to smell that powder to believe it it is so stinky and I just touching Jesus Christ and I have to wipe them to throw it away but I will grind those first two toes is like a f****** thing and I got the extra Rock for I got in my wife go on Amazon and get like the f****** hard Obama Stone down talk to your toes so I can come out other spots yeah but I'm not getting it on my nails or nothing like that it's just on that one phone died down there what if it came on your balls when I go to Lake to Vegas to get those good memories cuz you never looked when you're at home you look at you and looks away does everything cuz you used to that mirror it's not that you go to work it's got all those you haven't smelled it smells like Newark Staten Island is Godzilla the p is different have you ever smelled your pee lately I'm trying not to I'm going to yell at me she was staying drink is breathing when I wake up in the morning at first it's the worst smelling thing in the world before I go to bed I drink water what a little bit of tart cherry juice and I take a f****** baby Aspirin because the high-level after 50 is to get the audit back between 5:30 and 12 I was making a mistake and take an aspirin if 7 is too late you can have all the tax if you take that before you go to sleep it's better for you I got to ask you this

what the UFC card for this weekend so I can see who's on the card for that what's the line that you're on right now so you can little bit plus-plus 1054 under so I guess the money is on the over right now it's - 135 in the f****** money being yoga with people like it's very slight though okay look it up this Diego Ferreira is the favorite over Anthony Pettis play home the given right kissing she's a favorite Holly Topman she's very tough paint is one of those chicks that like she's had some last second wins like against Ashlee evans-smith one of those like wild is endings in a female fight she gets her know Bulldog choke and chokes are unconscious with blood spraying out of her forehead it was a wild finish man CD find that finish Ashlee evans-smith. Raquel Pennington finishes Ashlee evans-smith so right now what is that look like Donald Cerrone against, what's the money look like I don't understand moneyline I don't know I would I would be just talking out of my ass you better hundred bucks on Irwin and he wins a fight you'd get to 60 so you collect 360 and if you bet $100 on Conor you have to bet 320 bucks to to win a hundred on Conner - 320 the only way you can win this weekend is with Connor and you see, going in there knocking about in the first round in the Yonder but if, if bucko wrestles them and it goes five rounds I don't see a lot of people back in Connor in the old kind of looks so good that people expecting kind of going that this is how I can write out this is Raquel Penningtons fight so just go to like towards the end of it is wild fight then and Ashlee evans-smith is the woman who beat Fallon Fox the transgender fighter she stopped her in her fight right before she came to the UFC this was just a wild fight man these girls were going to war and so at the very last I mean I think it was like the last second of the fight she's locking her up in this Bulldog choke and this is why it is spraying Rahat Ali don't show the finished UFC a sneaky like that they don't ways to the tap or The Knockout like I don't get it guys I work for you I love you show everybody that choke why you hiding the choke and you want maybe she was a time constraint but she got her in this Bulldog choke blood is squirting out of her head and then at the end of the the buzzer she lets go and the girls out cold and it was just like one of those play see something that's just Primal this moment in fights or just Primal you know it sometimes those moments like they're almost surreal like when Francis ngannou knockout Alistair Overeem crazy fight I almost wish more people knew how tough rosenstreich is UCC to fight with Alistair Overeem and he go well I'll store was kind of out pointing him and then he caught house to slip in really would like 10 seconds left to go to fight and he was Obama broke his lip open that's true we still absorb everything announced throughout them did never look like he gets shook it all we're talking about a guy in Dallas knocked out you know it was the K1 Grand Prix Champion knocked out Todd duffee and pride up and knocked out on boys and he needed your boy that f****** the Great White Hope you know what's his name does the allister of today he's got a long career that he's just as durable and it's big as he was when he fought Brock Lesnar is really two different guys at this point but still roses strike is a f****** beast he's so strong man and he's got legit kickboxing skills it seems to me it seems to me that Conor McGregor has an advantage in being able to close the distance and in maybe a speed Advantage this is a perceived thing based on seeing them fight different people Cowboy when he's at his best is remarkably well-rounded and I think he's more well-rounded than Connor I think cowboy has a lot of tools that people forget about particularly his takedowns or excellent Cowboy can submit the f*** out of you he submits a lot of people he's nasty off his back he's got Wicked triangle I can see give this one to the ground Connor getting submitted by cowboy in a triangle what I couldn't see is Cowboy getting submitted by Connor and a triangle I can see I can see Cowboys Dominicana I would I don't think it's impossible for Connor to submit Cowboy but I don't see it I think Connor can win by knockout yes he's very fast yet his left hand is a f****** piston and he's sneaky and he's got nasty uppercuts and he's Killer Instinct when you have you heard you f****** bombs on you and Eddie Alvarez fight is the best example that Eddie Alvarez was a world-class fighter and Conor McGregor took it to him like no one has ever done in his career tuned him up made him look like he had no business in the in the cage with them now for Eddie said he just fought a bad fight and I believe I'm in the 82 World fighter but the point is in Ingo time Conor McGregor handles pressure is better as much or better as good as well or anyone has ever lived has pressure so well this is Floyd Mayweather with an uppercut in a fight we so outclassed he has zero boxing matches and he's fighting the greatest boxer of all time in one of the biggest pay-per-view cards ever it's nuts right we can handle pressure he lost that fight because floors are way better boxer but he handled the pressure pressure gets Aldo talk so much guess in front of them flat lines in 13 seconds perfect punch perfect execution left hand before that steps back he Dives in with the Left Bank catches them coming in its perfect Under Pressure he's not the kind of Grappler that nurmagomedov his he's not in that category terrified of and at least made into the fourth round right was in the fourth round submission and he probably wasn't really prepared for that fight you think about how much time you've been off for MMA how much time you've been working on you know just boxing and then spending all that money to be made like a hundred million dollars the question for me is who is kind of right now is is Conor McGregor the same guy that knocked out. When he was a Savage is he the same guy that knocked out Diego brandao is he easy is he same guy that knocked out Jose Aldo is he the same down knocked out Eddie Alvarez or is he just some new thing cuz all this money and all this Fame and all this attention and likes to party and what is he now if he's the same guy and physically there should be no reason why he hasn't he hasn't taken a terrible beatings even then never coming off why you stopped him to choke if he is the same God physically and he decides he wants to let the fuckingworld know that he can still do it in how much money you have in the bank he wants to let the world know he's here to f*** people up and he's here to reclaim his crops if he goes into the fight with that attitude I mean we could certainly see a Resurgence the question is always been whether or not a rich man has the motivation to work like a poor man and he's a very rich man we don't know everybody's different Mayweather fought hard to the day he died or is it she's going to the day he retired and Mayweather when he was during his career was rich like from a couple years and he was rich he was rich so he was always rich and still fought like the best in the world and still trained like you have to train to be the best water type of gaps was he taking them between fights guys this is been a long gap before it's not fair it'll bring a real world again what you heard me telling Jamie was basically this in a real-world Cerrone last 5 fights beat Al iaquinta though and look real f****** good doing it so he's lost to the gaethje fight and he beat my pairing which was a really good fight for him cuz Mike Perry is a big scary guy throws bombs so beat him lots of Leon Edwards I think you was sick coming in at 5 but you know lost either way and beat Yancy Medeiros in a while I'm just saying that in the real world my people looking at them I don't think there's going to be that easy of a fight I like it I like the over I love the older I don't know I can't pick up that side yet yeah but I love the old but I can see everybody back McGregor win round one and something crazy happened I mean in a perfect world you know maybe his chin has been a little suspect lately Donald I don't know I don't think so look fighting the toughest guys don't look everybody's chin suspect if Darren till is smashing your f****** nose open with an elbow that dude's an animal and he's big as f*** when Darren till fight Cowboy he's so much bigger than him there's a difference between a really big welterweight and a guy who came up from lightweight there until the giant dude that means nicknames the gorilla so here we go the young tough guy was talking mad s*** but there's a giant difference between no disrespect to Hernandez and Conor McGregor Conor McGregor's used to those Bright Lights man he shines he shines as bright lights give me the question is really just whether or not he has the motivation to train and fight like a f****** madman again like you did when he was younger when he was smashing people in for cowboy It's whether or not he can survive the early storm I think getting his leg kicks working would be very big Biscuit take that long stance car takes that long stance and he fights right leg 40 fights out bar and if Donald can f****** that right leg he can figure out a way to attack that right leg needs the body coming in got a void the punches though he's up there with but I guarantee Woodley's will leave him doing some wrestling takedown cuz he knows that's where the money is really has a big fight coming up with he's going to fight Leon Edwards and Leon Edwards is a dangerous man it's like that's a that's a big fight and Leon Edwards for whatever reason is not known as much as he is skillful you know he beat Cowboy like you said and he's the guy that got that crazy bra with mods without backstage Boswell that's the guys are tough tough tough guy super highly-skilled guy and Leon Edwards and Tyron Woodley there's a very high-stakes fight that a lot of people are talking about my daddy fight for the number one Contender because it's tiring emerged or of Leon emerges and it's and it's a big fight and it didn't the fight goes well that person is almost certainly at least considered other than Mazda doll who's the fan favorite and the rematch those are the two possibilities that the rematch with Kobe new smok other than that you want to see you want to see the winner of Tyron Woodley and Leon Edwards it just makes sense make sense of doubt be the next one or moths but all those those that's how I would look at it there's a lot of options for that division on Beats boy and decides he feels great this way he feels confident now dedicated he wants to make a run at the f****** Champ there's a big size difference between it was mine and Connor Usman is a big person he's got a thick giving is f***** to I think Mazzio's in The Sweet Spot he's not too big or acid kill himself to make a way but he's obviously knockout welterweight easily he's knocked out a lot of wealth which I mean the the Ben askren want his f****** Preposterous but of course just even the beating that he's putting on Nate Diaz Boswell can f*** people out there 170 I think him versus Connor would be insane Scott wolter easily he's knocked out a lot of welterweights I mean the the Ben askren one is f****** Preposterous but of course just even the beating that he's putting on Nate Diaz maza.com f*** people out that 170 I think him versus Connor would be insane

remember dog being a f****** kid on a Saturday and watching dude come Kim and Mancini f*** out of each other cuz that was live done ybc absolutely the reason why they changed the number for $15 12 after that guy died what was that again remember today that's crazy on you Area February of 83 guy was a tough motherfuking Ray Boom Boom Mancini but the topic motherfuker this is 1979 who is 21 years old is this a duck who can fight so maddening killed somebody when you're 21 years old in a fight that is Hardcore man that's a hard pill to swallow what was the ABO things and then also probably probably how to make weight a lot of deaths in boxing apparently happened in the lower weight classes new one of the reasons is that when these guys actually entering fights a lot of times are still dehydrated they would dehydrate them so pretty bad in the Wayans to get to whatever weight class it was like 1:34 but he probably weighs you know 134 in quarters when he weighed in he probably walks around like 1:50 ish or something like that and they dehydrate themselves is very difficult to rehydrate the brain apparently it's not as quick and easy as it is rehydrating the body and even that takes some time so most of the deaths in box have occurred most of them still very dangerous even for the heavyweight division there was a guy wanted to a coma Russian guy in a in a fight a few years back but in a lighter weight divisions they think it's generally when people get more more more likely to die from fights and I think it might have something to do with cutting weight but it's also like really skillful people punch each other in the Gerald McClellan fight it's a good example. There was I too because Gerald McClellan who was just a straight-up murderer when he was a light heavyweight really struggle to make white man real bad and then one fight with Nigel Benn Nigel Benn got off the deck and look like he was out and made it back into the ring fought his ass off and then started taking it to Gerald but this don't come Kim right here again yeah and now it's the end of the fight after Ray Mancini stopped him everybody's copy and then the guy slides into a coma wind up dying so he's sitting there like so he's he's really battered they think again I think it might have something to do with cotton weight it's a f****** horrible horrible way to go man but killer be killed that's what he signed up for I think it might have something to do with cotton weight it's a f****** horrible horrible way to go man but killer be killed that's what he signed up for that way too

try to make a move on you know ya when you work a couple times from five towels the scariest one once when I was 13 when I was 13 I was in Boston what time it happened before but a library and save me I was like eight hose in San Francisco and I was really in a Monster books back then was in the monster movies Monster books and was looking at these books and creepy dude came over to me and you said you like Monster books and I said yeah and he said well I have books in my car if you want to come see him I said okay eight-years-old those dumb sorry walking behind him in the library and screams out Joseph you get away from him he just got out of jail all my God they got ran and I ran to the library and she hugged me and I was crying so very scary no number one box on that f****** an hour and a half and then Below in a guy pulls up in my ride yeah I get in there and I still remember how he acted like from the beginning of a minute I got in something wasn't right as energy wasn't right and he's already had he thought he had pray will kind of clumsy he was clumsy and at the light he want for the boy you like playing basketball D1 football only touch my dick like he slipped and Kelly crazy if you like it and Joe Rogan f*** with that was basic and I always think about that like why didn't people approach right I knew today looking back I still remember three guys in my high school teacher that would come on as a basketball group and I found out and I always doing a little weird about not married and up and then years ago somebody said yeah he was sucking kids dicks at the field s*** I had a guy slope Lane at a lake who's the guy that used to run around the lake and talk to some more fishing probably 13 me and my friend Josh particular would go this one Lake was in town and fish there all the time and this dude will come by all the time and visit he's always friendly start-off real normal what are you guys up to catch the fish like a Southern accent seem like an old gentleman and then a couple times he came when it was just me and then he just shut down next to me talk to me and I was naive I was 13 I just thought he was a real nice guy like almost like a older brother type figure it's going to give you a good advice you talked about coolshit it was a teacher who got kicked out of his position for some unfair reason he wouldn't really be specific about it but he said they didn't like the way you taught and so anyway this dude just becomes my friend like nice and slow nice and slow brings me lunch even went to his house and then one day I am fishing and he's drunk and he tells me he loves me and I said I think I said something like I really like you to it goes you know there Can't Be Love without sex and I remember thinking what was like what did he just what happened and I remember thinking what a dummy I am I thought this guy just liked me he was I was his buddy but he's going to teach me things just like teaching people just really smart and I had my hand on a knife I had a Swiss army knife from the little red plastic ones know the ones with the I'm something like f*** this guy might beat the s*** out of me and raped me here in the woods like he was bigger than me and he was always jogging you know it wasn't in bad shape and he I told him get the f*** away from me and he told me to not be upset and then I left I got a way he didn't chase me you know he didn't want to be violent he wanted to trick me and he wanted to rape me he wanted to trick me into f****** on my God real lucky that that was the case but then years later I got a letter from I'm at my house that was creepy cuz it showed up in the mailbox like it figured out where I moved to and sent me a letter and it was like a real like friendly and professional like a real Professor like a scholar I don't even remember if you ever apologized but it was real weirdos like we dodged a bullet how many guys did a like that but aren't nice they just want to get you close and then rape you that's much more likely probably not is some horrifics s*** man with Puerto Rican Nelson I went to his house that's my name that's what we call him he was born arica and his name is Nelson and I think he raped guys with a black dude black friend who that would come over there and then they give you a beer and all that s*** so he took you in as a you like p**** I pick it like you always say you want to see some good p**** and then that's how it started going to bring you over there you go in and start with the point first look at your weed and then introduce top black friend told I said his black friend just looked f****** retarded like his afro was cut weird he had weird hair and I remember him distinctively speaking about the Rock of Gibraltar I had just come back from African movie young kids like why it came out like a week later Sunday Allgood asked what his name you manolia TMNT asking if he could suck his dick so what like what are we doing here do we call the cops or do we talked, and more like now let's just play the guy cuz he was selling as weed he was like a bartender in the city of miselis weed and then he pursued 2.0 thing with us he said you guys to understand that and then he talked us into he like I'm going to f*** my girlfriend come over Alyssa we will come over there at night and listen that he would leave the window open and it was his girlfriend and him f****** and she would be saying give it to give me milk Daddy and then one day we actually f****** went back then he got normal I think with the misunderstanding with the one guy he got normal Mad Mike the next summer was when he would come out and play football with us with a robot or no wonder where I would like what the f*** is this guy doing like you went to Desperate Measures introversion and I think mrs. and Ani said something to him you can't be doing that around here with your dick out and these are non I just want to get exercise or something like that I would like what the f*** is this guy doing like he went to Desperate Measures and perversion and I think mrs. zanotti said something to him you can't be doing that around here with your dick out of these are non I just want to get exercise or something like you told us I'm with and that was the end of that

and you would think it would be if you're going to hang yourself from such a short distance it would be even harder to get a fracture like that right cuz you not like jumping out like an old western movie like Clint Eastwood movie where they would hang them Hang Em High so the one thing that they also had an ear as he left a note the note said like there's like four things it's at first that the sum of the name blurred out but it said this person left him in a shower lock for an hour but then said someone else gave him like burnt food and then bugs are crawling over his hands in his throat no fun but there's a ballpoint pen like the one I have in my hand sitting right next to him like if you knew he was on suicide watch you wouldn't give him a ballpoint pen that he could kill himself with he could have just use that to kill himself and I can explain it by bringing in some some new witness somehow this is actually a different video showing a couple different things than what I saw this why I didn't see this arm thing I didn't see the pictures sorry 60 minutes thank you thanks for getting this kept me in a locked Pittsburgh regular season games board kept me in a lock strap shower stall for 1 hour neck or someone I don't know the name sending burnt food giant bugs crawled on my hands and then no fun and then they're sending any ballpoint pen is next to it that he could have stabbed himself the neck or whatever you know you know high profile Cal stripe yeah I don't know it's bad to say either way if you don't know and I'm guilty of that hundred percent I might that guy didn't kill himself I am talking s*** though I'm not talking in terms of like people have to understand this is really important just have to talk s*** and hopefully if you f****** you correct it and it's funny I'm not a science expert but when these guys are saying that the guy died by strangulation is always points a consistent strangulation that takes forever to get the pictures and then there's the video cameras didn't work and is the second time he tried to kill himself and he's a high-profile witness in a really really really important case involving pedophiles at the highest levels of government yeah I wouldn't I would think that that's the kind of guy you wack what's up with the sneakers that kids are wearing their have a f****** a green tag on them I was it was explained to me or we tell the Boomers Now is it going to rain today leave that on my f*** you not leaving this stupid plastic tag on now you don't leave that on it would it would people do that thing is huge their cumbersome they look dumb but I'm on their shoots part of the Saints you should go up to his f****** kids just cut that off and go know we're about to go to war and stupid this is probably a plot by the Russians and the Chinese and the Iranians to try to make sure the orchids grow dumber and dumber main thing there's two things that are really really kind of happening in that region one the traffic the trafficking of Fentanyl and heroin and all these drugs through one of the main drug routes up into the u.s. and there's a few factions fighting over that region little Salazar which are small cartel faction that has Allegiant just to see lower cartel and the Linea cartel which has historically been in control of the Zealot Suarez so they're both kind of buying for control of the area a few hours before the massacre actually took place there was a bunch of fire fights between these two factions in the area so one of the main theories is that these Scruples of Mormons basically were kissing mistaken identity, driving into some of the areas with there being protected by some of these people that's one Theory the other thing that people kind of need to think about is that the largest mineable mineable deposits of lithium on the planet right now are a few hours away from her that Massacre took place and that is something in that region and there's a lot of interest in that space and control for that space and they're not mining it currently there's probably a bunch of projects in play right now I was so they've identified the deposits yeah people to look up the numbers but it's it's the largest mineable deposit of lithium on the planet and there was some sort of deal in the password Canadian mining agency was going to have rights to it and the mining agency was fought by the check by chinese company so again after that Massacre a lot of things happen a lot of the negotiations happened that called that deal was one of the things that got killed after that situation no night so it's it's it's it's an interesting area there's a lot of things happening there that's going to put a tremendous amount of pressure on the cartels and somewhere right well operation usually has industry around it which is perfect for the cartels no extortion protection rackets drug use in the area from the workers I blue pill with the f*** out of my don't try to get my son into conspiracy theorist I'll get him when he's like this more than anything he loves you more than you love school and then after school till about fun and he decide what we're going to do today we're going to do karate and then we're going to cuz he's all the baseball to and then we're going to go to the batting cages my boom that's it we got a karate batting cages that I go teach Jiu-Jitsu then the next day he'll say I'm going to take a relaxation day the last couple days throwback amazing and then we'll watch some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle he's all about Teenage Mutant everyday it's a different thing what he wants of you learning from like the pain of your childhood and like doing all the right things I just the opposite with my son my dad my dad had 19 Kids and I was just one kid with my mom is like a weird off the other women pregnant he was all over the place truck driver had 19 kids I was one of 19 yet out of eight different checks he was banging and he never I found out I met I met a couple of my half-brothers and half-sisters they were actually part of his real family and we met when they went to the Old Spaghetti Factory in in Hollywood and he put they told me all about it but I didn't know I thought he had five kids had a family with five kids and my mom was as he was seeing on the side that's what I thought how did they go see how many mice a sister goes how many sister half-brother how many kids do you think your dad has I said 619 like the one thing that he never told anyone he never said the words I love you to anybody to his like real family you never said it to make the words never came out of apparently he's one of those guys I love you to anybody and I'm the opposite dude I tell my son I look him in the eye everyday so you know who loves you the most you know I don't know I love you the most the funny thing like first he's like okay. And now I'm not going to let you forget Daddy I won't forget I call you promise I won't forget I just want to make sure you don't forget and it goes okay because I Daddy I won't forget I promise another everyday

lot of people that will tell you things and some of those things seem like b******* but inside those things as some undeniable truths about how we should live our lives and how we should view the world and how we can sort of United trailer with love and understanding and we can connect in a way it's like a murder mystery trying to figure out life I know some people are so happy that the last thing on their mind is trying to figure out what the f*** this is all about their just living their life and thought about their family and I don't give a s*** about Iran don't give a f*** about NASA they're just living their life and man IND that shitt I have you I'm trying to move closer to that when myself on the weekends baseball with my son karate we've got the f****** watching the Disney cartoons with all the spaceship and we buy blue pill the f*** out of my don't try to get my son into conspiracy theory love and happiness and we just beautiful on a Mac counter for every deck Shaquille of school more than anyting he loves School more than f****** he loves and then after school and he decide what we're going to do karate and then we're going to cuz he's on the baseball to and then we're going to go to the batting cages my boom that's it we're going to karate a lot the last couple days let's go get a order pizza from the from Dino's in Burbank amazing and then we'll watch some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles he's all about Teenage Mutant and like doing all the right there I just the opposite with my dad my dad had 19 kids that was just one kid with my mom is like a weird off side like he had a family of five kids and then he got a bunch of other women pregnant he was all over the place truck driver he had 19 kids I was one of 19 yet out of eight different checks he was banging and he never I found out I met I met a couple of my half-brothers and half-sisters a rack city part of his real family and we met one day we went to the Old Spaghetti Factory in in Hollywood and he put they told me all about him and I didn't know I thought he had five kids show me the five kids and my mom was as seen on the side that's what I thought I didn't know him unto others but, they go see how many mice a sister go sister half-brother kids you think your dad has I said 619 I fear that the words never came out as I never told my mom back apparently he's one of those guys that will never say I love you to anybody and I'm the opposite dude I tell my son I look him in the eye every day so you know who loves you the most you know I don't know I love you the most people know that you love me the funny thing is now it's a funny thing like first is like okay. And now I won't forget you promise I won't forget it I just want to make sure you don't forget and it goes okay and cuz I Daddy I won't forget I promise and everyday this is so pointless it looks terrible transplant scar in the back of my head I would have shaved my head a long time ago but I just did this I like this is so pointless it looks terrible keep paying to get haircut and always act like everybody online is like telling me I'm turning Joe Rogan

talked about earlier I I really am happy that the comedy scene is slowly getting braver with jugs seems like it's a weird thing because in the 80s it was like the cool thing to be a liberal and I'm Democrat and Republican they just they're just Christian they have family values I don't know what happened but it seems like now the cool kids are Republicans what do you know the name Russian show me a young man who's not a liberal and I'll show you a man with no heart show me an old man is not conservative mile show you a man with no brain that he's out of me that have become more conservatives ever got older I'd like appreciate hard work more I understand like the mental pitfalls involved in self-pity and a lot of cuz when I grew up there were no family values and I thought Family Values is a way to control you to try to control you with the family values in Christ on the older you get you like I was a f****** idiot of course it's all about family you got to have values a dude with no values is a dude you can trust with the s*** when you have something to lose you realize that everybody has something to lose and put you in like you commiserate with all the other people that also have families that's one thing when you go to like family gatherings never has got their kids like you feel about their kids the way you feel about your kids are you want to communities in tribes used to be like yeah like we gravitate towards that it's good for everybody you know what I used to think growing up that giving in to your desires was like that you're right it's my right if I'm horny I'm going to f*** if I wanted party I'm going to drink and these f****** right wing PP Alabama they're trying to throw Jesus down my throat and try to push you do I push their family values and but I swear now dude I'm not Republican I'm not claiming Republican at all or anyting but I get it now I get it cuz I have a kid and there's no way anybody is going to convince me that because some f****** kid with pink hair all looked up on Pharmaceuticals shoots up a mall that it makes did I give up my guns and I can't protect my family too long, but we'll get movie where to get the weed that's a branch off the directions but I know what you're saying is like as you get older especially when you have family but what it's made me is it's made me way more compassionate and way more understanding check my family so long, but we can't move yet will get the weed easily Branch off and all these different directions but I know what you're saying is like as you get older especially when you have family but but it's made me is it's made me way more compassionate and way more understanding

I guess the other reason that people are on my case to some degree is because I have made a strong case which I think is fully documented by the scientific literature that there are intrinsic differences say between men and women and I think the evidence or not this is the thing that staggered Mia said no serious scientists have debated that for like four decades it's that argument was done by the time I went to graduate school everyone knew that human beings were not a blank slate biological forces parameterize the way that we thought and felt and acted in and and valued everyone knew that the fact that this has become somehow debatable again is just especially because it's being done by legislative Fiat they're forcing it to me is now mandated the female sports teams were funded to the same degree that male sports teams were funded in American universities but it's being expanded out so that if there's any differences in any areas whatsoever between the genders then the universities are being taken to court and like 200 of me last I looked about 200 Sports Vape Way Beyond that yeah it's it's it's become an equality of outcome issue fundamentally there was an article that I sent you one of them was from I think I got it off of digg.com but it was Jordan Peterson is having his moment and we should ignore him when I send this to you and there was one of the party citing the study that showed very little difference or more different well it depends on how you define the terms first but they're more similar is what are the differences and how do they manifest themselves in are those manifestations important so here's an example if you took a random woman out of the population and a random man and he had to bet on who was more temperamentally aggressive if you bet on the man you'd be right 60% of the time but you'd be wrong 40% of the time in the difference right it's not 90/10 well they're more the same yeah except so then let's say Nona let's play a slightly different game let's pick the one in a hundred most aggressive person from the random population while they're all men and that's why all the people in prison are men so even though on average men and women one of the problems is the difference is at the extreme or where the difference is really start to manifest themselves until you can have a small difference at the level of the average butt out at the extremes it starts to make a massive difference so let's say to be a Google engineer which is hard right because you not only have to be an engineer but you have to be interested in things rather than people that's a huge difference it's like men are more interested in things generally speaking and women are more interested in people generally speaking that was still a lot of overlap between them but that's one of the biggest differences between men and women's been demonstrated cross-cultural it's also very big difference in the Scandinavian countries well isn't that great even though it's a relatively large difference but at the extremes it's the same thing almost all the people and all the people were hyper focused on people or almost all women and so how does that play out in the world well in the Scandinavian countries it plays out this way but 85% of nurses in Scandinavia are female and about eighty-five to ninety percent of Engineers are male it doesn't mean women can't be Engineers that doesn't mean men can't be nurses it also doesn't have anything to do with intelligence but it does have to do with interest and the differences are big you like that the one that was pointed out the first question is well what do you mean by big and little there's more overlap there's more overlap between men and women there is difference on virtually every parameter okay fine are the remaining differences significant and how they play out in the world is overwhelming 115 points is about the difference between the typical college student and the typical high school student okay so it's not a massive difference but if you go to the extreme say well let's go look at people who only have an IQ of 145 which is kind of where you hit the beginnings of genius-level like the Jews are overwhelmingly over-represented so relatively small differences in the average can produce requires a fairly sophisticated grasp of Statistics but when were talking about things like differential outcome in the workplace then you have to take a sophisticated statistical approach to it or you don't know what the hell you're talking about and unfortunately many of the people who were talking about things like gender differences they have no idea what they're talking about it's like they inhabit some disembodied universe so the review was poorly written at best and did not was showed it very poor grasp of the relationship between group differences and economic and practical outcomes so it's not just that it's deceptive and there's there's a need in some way on that side this side of the debate the anti Jordan Peterson side to label men women as being virtually identical when there's so much evidence that that's not the case and what you're saying what you've never said one is superior one is inferior what you are is a guy who is pointing out the reality of the difference between the various types of human beings and you've been very open about the extremes about you but I am well aware of the extremes I deal with MMA fighters I know a lot of female MMA fighters as aggressive top is any man you're ever going to meet in your life and I know a lot of men from Comedy that are Meek little guys who they're not nearly as aggressive as some of these female Fighters like there's I think one of the beautiful things about freedom is that people get an opportunity to express himself in a way that genuinely them and whether that is like our friend Alex Honnold free climber who is like climbing up these fantastic mountains with no ropes or what's a female MMA fighter like Raquel Pennington who's just a tank and beat the s*** out of people and that's what she loves to do all of these extremes are available to people because of Freedom this is not as suppressive thing stopping people from choosing the path I don't know if you saw the most recent slip up by the CEO of YouTube I retweeted it today they were talking about why there's not as many women in Tech and she basically said they both her and they CEO of Google said exactly with James D'Amore was saying in his memo they completely f*****-up they tried to look at this this is goddamn they responded with a lack of tackles could go to James D'Amore tweet just go to the what I retweeted and what he said so there was a study published larger they go look to see if I read this right I don't know how to say her name is Susan Wood's I'm sorry I don't know how to say her name w o j i c i c k I said that women find geek email Industries as opposed to social Industries not very interesting and Sundar sites research on gender differences this is what James D'Amore wrote in his memo that got him fired and this in my mind if I was a lawyer for James D'Amore be like oh well look who we have here this is Checkmate and he wasn't very happy about it because he knows literature at the end of the seminar they ask for feedback call James D'Amore is an engineer so when you telling engineer that you want feedback the engineer thinks all you on feedback and you and you want like facts and stuff right cuz that's what feedback would be like don't do more went and wrote this like Thoreau memo and gave it to me said well you know what I think you're some feedback and then he got no real response from the diversity people and then he posted it on one of these internal boards at Google where people can discuss things which people at Google do all the time it was perfectly reasonable for him to post it because he didn't get a response from the diversity people thought well let's see what other people think and then it was there for a long time until it was leaked into the outside world it wasn't like the more was trying to expose Google for for what it is he was just doing what an engineer type would do would someone asked him to provide feedback because he's not thinking politically he's not thinking oh they just want to hear what they already said he thought they actually wanted some facts the wrong guy turns out to be pretty damn tough but he's very smart and a very kind God when you sit down and talk to him he's not a sexist he said he's a guy that's talking about facts in fact he wrote more than a page-and-a-half I believe on the strategies for getting more women interested in attack is not a sexist remember the author but they were looking at Junior High math prodigies and they're they're pretty equally distributed between boys and girls but by the time University came along the math prodigy boys they tend to go into the stem Fields but the girls wouldn't and it didn't because they locked ability cuz they had Stellar ability it's because they weren't interested and it turns out like the interesting turns out to be a big one so with personality alone if you measure men and women personalities and then you add up all the differences in personalities you can tell with the boat 95-80 percent certainty by looking at a full personality readout weatherperson's male or female she'd be wrong 25% of the time something like that but if you had interested that you can get up to about 90% And so you know what you say well are these differences large well individually they're not that big they make more difference at the extremes but if you add them up then you can almost completely differentiate men from women so by that token any interesting actually turns out to matter a lot like it's probably the most important individual difference that has been discovered between men and women at the psychological level and has real decent explanatory power because you might say men have a slight Edge in spatial intelligence and that's why they were represented in stem fields and women have a slight Edge in verbal intelligence this is debatable but literature, indicates that and that's why they're overwhelmingly the majority of fiction readers for example is that the reason that there's differential represent in the stanfields it's like not doesn't seem to be it doesn't look like it's an intellectual issue which is also what the more pointed out by the way he never said once that this was a cognitive issue but it's a matter of choice matter of interest and women tend to be more more people oriented now saying is this is also being discovered in chimpanzees and other primates like if you offer baby like cars or people like toys like dolls the males will go for the thing like toys in the females are go for the people like toys she see that in private and you think was not surprising it's like really tiny infants and you have to be really people-oriented to do that because a tiny infant isn't unbelievably demanding social relationship and it's a primary relationship for about two years unbelievably demanding social relationship and it's a primary relationship for about two years and no one so women are tilted towards the kind of temperament that makes that possible it's like well it's not such a shock really that's such a surprise

that's that's crazy fight Rock'em sock'em robots that fight 223 knows fight you know that's one of those fight real bad motherfuker and khabib nurmagomedov is already one scariest guys have ever seen compete ever moth people already just stop and think would happen if that f****** Savage gets the title that guy smashes people what he did to Edson Barboza with Supernatural it's like he's not even the same thing you said something during that fight that said it all it was 1.2 fight that that you said look at the look in Athens situation like like when you see a deer that's getting attacked by a crocodile or something they have this like survival thing where you like you just trying to survive obviously dear Is Not the Same by the time I realized that like there's no way he's going to beat this guy in the grounds not even close like I think if he went to that fight probably stuff more take down and probably get back office because you doing that with a lot of guys in Camp that guy gets ahold of you there's an acceptance that certain Fighters go through where they lockdown like holy s*** like they're just drained from this animal Mall in them trying to retain their energy trying to recharge the battery trying to get back in it and you got to realize the best f****** kickers ever ever he's one of the best kickers ever that f****** dies the fastest I've ever seen in my life outside of like professional Muay Thai saenchai or blue cow or some like that he's got a world-class left leg kick and you couldn't keep that guy off him but he never drilled Giants taking me down for a week different animal ever felt this on that side is f****** something that is too certain guys never a grappling skill that's very hard to see when you look at it even if you are a skilful Grappler yourself you looking at someone like you like why is he able to do that to everybody like what what is he doing differently what is a few of those guys out there will you watching me just go Cheese's like what the fuc and put the comedian's the number one guy in that category because he's never been defeated that one moment of adversity and buy a punch for Michael Johnson I can't think of a single round he's lost not off the top my head at least I mean may have lost rounds on some judges scorecards but he's essentially mauled every motherfuker they put in front of him he's an animal so this guy versus Tony cuz Tony is a Savage and Tony fights very well off of his back is a seriously dangerous guard you can't sleep on them he's durable as f*** he can knock you out he never gets tired and he's as game as they come and he's a f****** Champ right now he's the interim champ you know when he beat Kevin Lee with a triangle you did top guy like Kevin leave the f****** triangle that's a big move Tony's dangerous nasty darce choke to unquestionably he wasn't is too high level that was two different you could see in the second round rats I would like to see that fight again we we have to say that again Kevin Lee fight healthy I think you'd see a very different kind I don't think you would see Tony I'm not saying that you would see Tony lose or Kevin win but I would think you would see that could sustain his performance longer I think being drained from staff it's right but it's not good your body goes into a very weak and state its you are not the same thing you just not you can see if you're a real professional and you can go out there and do your job in a lot of guys have fought and won Luke rockhold on antibiotics he wanted he wanted to 70 or 80 or whatever the f*** it was you know there's no doubt about a staph infections and antibiotics both f*** you up and Kevin Lee I believe opted to not take the antibiotics till after the fight so you want to weaken the system but he still weakened by the staff fuk fuk I don't know why Vegas steep a DC fight they got some good cards coming up

I was reading something that I was writing this bit about a real thing that happened with the CIA in the 1950s and it's called operation midnight Climax and you know MK Ultra 7 days in a row she's as best they ran out of people that were willing to do it toasted Unabomber will they did that with they ran out of people so they start open up brothels so they open up whorehouses they call it operation midnight climax so they would hire hookers and they're hookers would Dost these guys up then give him a drink that was filled with acid and then how much did they charge glass their whole budget was being spent on dosing guys and watching guys f*** fantastic Tulare USA I was reading a book on on this stuff in when they were Johnson ruin the LSD and a SWAT stuff in Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco that's weird man's account of his whole family came out of there. That was Steve with the CIA we can go on for 5 hours for this s*** it's almost like the CIA was created step ahead of us on those every time he goes to assassinate Castro before they really turned on them cuz that first the United States was with backing up and then something happened they switch there's a lot of different theories like maybe he was working for that like Fidel Castro was part of a CIA operation overthrow the Batista regime maybe or and then like once he got any said f*** the CIA f*** the United States something happened between Robert and John were there you know that was his attorney general that's who we hired so once they got together something happened that made them flip some people say that JFK I don't know if it's true or not like his son died at a early age of one of his kids died and then from that point on he decided to do the right thing and just say f*** it kids died and then from that point on he decided to do the right thing and just a f****** some Robin

Jon Jones vs Francis ngannou why'd you have to go there dude what that's going to happen for sure we allow and Gunnar to get the press that he deserves like it delete to pump him up in a way that he deserved to make Arizona worldwide Superstar for six years and he developed a strike by the way in a sand mine when he was a child doing child labor considered Thunderhead I think it's everybody did there's not a Man On This Planet Beach dungeon we never seen John we just have to lose weight we never seen John where you know he's not maybe Jon Jones is really the best 240-pound heavyweight in the world he's just been fighting until 2 and they did come together would like a physical plan you know for like a Cain Velasquez right if they're going to they're going to look at like what's the best weight for garlic Cain Velasquez there probably like 2:40 Jon Jones was raised in one of you look at the six just go down the line from Carlos Condit like I don't know but he's that would be an interesting fight it he's just too small I think isn't he is he too thin well he's a solid 30 lb lighter I think walk around the John and that's why so they might possibly might be star I'm just his dad might be so it's not that outlandish it's not that outlandish on the way to physically get up to a certain weight he's a beast for him and that holds Jim they won okay what what way is the right way is it to you too big at 2:30 cuz you be 220 and 220i you faster like when you have the most cardio when what's the f****** point of diminishing returns you're probably one of the greatest talents a heavyweight division just just train real hard and was 240 but like this eBay stupid 238 but like he went to when he fought at 1:35 against of Hunan faded the next Friday came in later like they're you know American Top team's like listen to bring your body weight down a little bit let's figure out what's the right formula here and that's why a big camp that has a lot of experience of world title fight and nose like seeing so much because they can look at using O'Brien I don't see you as a 70 as he was in 55 I think we got to get in nutrition order like what they've done like think about what with what's happened with although just with the introduction of a nutritionist 135 what do that's that's all about optimizing all your possibilities you know by the end of this guy's like Jon Jones you don't have to do that that's it I'm going to heavyweight secondly kunsak think about that and would you say his brothers are better athletes and John and one way or another or is that you can't say it when it when it comes to what the NFL requires his ass has used to but he would come in for John's camps in the whole John down anyway so it's great gene pool is coming from and you know I thought about this theory about got to grow up with brothers and feed their asses like Matthews one of the greatest welterweights of all time want to things about him cuz he had a twin brother that was exactly him they have an MMA fight in the Grass at a family picnic family picnic there they're all hanging out in the backyard of a house to all the families around with f****** Red Cups their hand drinking beer and these guys are beating up each other everyday that big motherfuker is right next to you and you don't shut when you have to wear it like Chris Weidman same thing as well good name for a podcast broscience where a person to talk about bulshit and you don't have to be an expert on it and do it anyway anyway, Bro Science then you have a free pass

so 2019 what do we do to Ben askren those you and me bro we had a big part of that I'm still saying I'm a huge fan of three fights in the UFC 2 things happen one big-time off of competing to email competing in 1 FC against is on the same level of competition I don't believe it's even he fought in Bellator and clothes and then three you know he's got a f***** up here people forget like you don't even got to the the UFC he was older do have a lot of Fighters older they didn't get them when he was a young his hip things running chicken please is a known to argue this right and I believe there are guys in the UFC like that a lot of guys like that. not have got caught in that thing I don't know but I mean it's such a high level for sure because of his grappling what is a really could be didn't take any time off like that like this is taking the two years off that aspirin took off and being 36 people forget he was older but also will you say thunder the world's it's also that you were a champion from one Champions like you were former world champion so when he came over the USA playing games look at Eddie Alvarez he had a tough go Douglas Lima I think Douglas Lima might be he might be right up there with everybody else in a hundred. 170 you might be one of the best in the world he might be able to knock out all of them semtex we fought Paul Daley to did he is he has legit as it comes. Now go through Camaro or go through Kobe's or go through Woodley's ordering Tales passed by the pony is world-class skills and ridiculous knock out power he may or may not how to beat those guys cuz you never know but he's definitely in the conversation from me what I look at ability my look at what you can accomplish the even though he's responding Q7 are he's a big motherfuker many sets of series Power truth you can't say he's the best that's true but you can't say he's not world-class I think that got nothing. What class but but I can't say oh he would beat the UFC's gfrc with me at top five divisions to Crazy alive 175 so is this like a little wibbly wobbly ankles f***** up I got a headache I'm having a hard time wake up my girlfriend's f****** with me I'm getting over the flu there never exactly the same level and every fight so there are guys that are at 11 where you catch them when you're up and they're down you win or they're up and you're down and they went that's real man f***** up I got a headache I'm having a hard time wake up my girlfriend's f****** with me I'm getting over the flu there never exactly the same level and every fight so there are guys that are at a level where you catch them when you're up and they're down you win or they're up and you're down and they went that's real man

want is money you know I was reading a thing about the head of Google and he makes no sense like 2 million bucks year but if he hits these performance goals of the next three years he stands to rake in 240 million dollars and stock no wonder why they're ruthless no wonder why they make these listen to wonder where they take down the slogan don't be evil that was their slogan when I don't be if you want to get ahead you got to figure out a way to be good people must behave properly pisses and economy of him and not all of them there's good people in there cat f****** someone's willing to kill a motherfuker just to avoid just have to do any more people you just have to figure out which who are the good people like a week later later that's what I'm talking about this it's going on and no one gives a f*** we don't have to you don't have time to try to get her flowers how to make some changes in my life and light duties MKUltra you can kill them with kindness wow put that out and everyone is cool everyone School baby do you think I should commit suicide or was murdered so for two days you probably on a loop watch this video this guy grabbed his dick is like why did I just punch him but he said let's go outside and get some air after Kevin Spacey release that video could easily just be a coincidence and could easily be the type of guy that Kevin Spacey grabbed the dick to probably not doing so good in the first place knows everybody's so homophobic homophobic people on Kevin Spacey out there gravity Spacey felt like you could grab dicks cuz it work before because there's probably some thrilled heterosexual guy who can't believe that Kevin Spacey's cock in his mouth like does every single one of them I've ever met with a moron and I have a theory that don't believe is really bisexual husband is gay dudes and then there's really gullible straight dudes who get talked into Blow and crappy gay dude and then all the sudden I come by I guess Tom doesn't by what does a money as a w**** not practically Brian practicing hard f****** guy you had a hard dick you could always say my dad I had to do it I know if I tore will remain nameless who said he said we're talkin about I would there's a reason I have Viagra round and it's not cuz I need it for her and I go well I would take Viagra and I would get my dick hard and I would f*** him in the ass and the Pick-4 t51r her you are amazing and he was dead serious

what about analytical was found out that the they were basically like YouTube as an algorithm like if you if you look up conspiracy theorist you're going to start getting there going to start curating the algorithm pushes you in that direction to everything though right in politics for sure for sure CNN's full of s*** for sure for sure Adam Schiff one side of it soccer Carlson on one side God......... We got to stop talking about other murder on people's ears posted in a different side what's going on there's only really two sides and in DC there's only two sides and Adam Schiff and then there's the other side so for sure about a withholding a billion dollars and Ukrainian date if they don't fire the prosecutor that's looking out at this point after his son and he's on video saying the Trump that's looking in that s*** and so now Trump is getting impeached for getting the Ukraine to dig up dirt on by the transcript he says all of this it went something like that I want you to they hide everything right so what you do is that the workaround is you go to DuckDuckGo and in their little space bar put site site; youtube.com and then whatever you want and then I'll brings up everything half an hour earlier just sitting on the toilet my legs are numb what am I doing it for them and instead DuckDuckGo I just go right to it and it gives you the opportunity to erase all of your history on instantly it's a great I think I heard about it from some article on the internet they were talking about how it's one of the best in terms of like privacy and protecting your privacy so interesting one of the best search app that's what I'm looking for esemicolonr youtube.com much or whatever whatever whatever website you want and then space and then whatever the search was too much if you're looking for the truth I never go to Google there's Ellentube Elemento YouTube used to make money off me I'mma start my own challenges play one of those promises there's very few people that are controlling all the information Facebook a little bit more moderate we're look at that had a meeting with their young journalist they're like you guys are so hard in the paint against Trump in every way they were losing viewership because there's zero there's absolutely zero balance here it's not like strategic let's get this week pundit if you are a if your whoever you are you having a show like Don Lemon or Hannity or what tells you have to use the whole entire ratings it's infotainment so you have to speak to your base pay their bases.

back in the day when you can get away with something like that he don't like dark and basically says in this book he said there is there a lot of gay priests there and there are a lot of pedophiles and both are protecting each other cuz they don't want each other for their exposure Vatican sexual vatican's gay overlords is Sensational new book Minds the Catholic Church sexual Secrets will right-wing homophobes exploited Frankie Muniz gay Constantine decided to convert to Christianity because the people would leave in the people like f*** that this is mainstream luciferian I'm no longer ancient Babylonian ship creative Rockstar dude with power the pope has power you got to do is everyday Cardinals bishops priests write their come on back we got we got Jesus free they made Jesus and just like you telling us things we already know what I'm saying is they would never end to Jesus it was never about youth we know that yeah have a lot of f****** luciferian shittin are you look at the resurrection of the Resurrection pull that up and you tell me if that's Jesus look up that's supposed to be Jesus right there is what this is supposed to be looks like a Slayer album cover Slayer what is a church please can I just see what that looks like come on beautiful I don't even want our grandma arguing look like what is that image of the are behind the chair like Elder make it looks like a Slayer album cover the restoration of the Statue of the Resurrection Satan's throne peace about the resurrection and this is his depiction of it I don't know how much that has to say about the vatican's position or about this guy who created either into Jesus maybe I'm jumping he's just figures of speech is we rudely use here in America open pretending they're into Christ they're not in the Christ they want to destroy Christ be a snake they're trying to destroy how do I see now you can't believe it's real man I mean like left corner that you got there right there Jamie right there yeah you when you when you zoom in on that can't click on it doesn't clear itself what is that maybe when the butterflies the hell awaits Cathedral Cathedral walking really barely talk to each other even my kids were always like super energetic and hide down there if they would just like to spend the first thing I remember looking at it and not being legit looking at it right now is one thing but looking at it when you're there in person it really this one of the reasons why people were so into believing that makes sense because it's so much bigger than anything you've ever seen your life there if you feel like you have to be humble when you walk in their paintings and it wasn't done nobody signs it right it wasn't about you it was about it was about the larger picture and that's the difference between architecture back then and architecture today architecture like you know today if you see it it's about the architect these incredible structures like you know whatever it might be the structure that we go and visit all the time we don't really know it was done by can you finance you don't hear about the guy who built it cuz that wasn't the point that it wasn't the Freemasons that they build everything other than rocky Vatican has the biggest telescopes in the world that one called Lucifer about that they have a telescope called Lucifer it's a beautiful place I love it how to get is born Catholic I was born Catholic and I'm all down for the Catholic church I love the Cardinals I love The Bishop's I love our the Vatican has an observatory in Arizona named Elijah who has problems or something but it just so he'll know that's that's what they say pastrami located 10700 feed Mount Graham and peanut peanut you know mountains of Southeastern Arizona part of the Mount Graham International Observatory the LBT is currently one of the world's most advanced optical telescopes to 28.4 330 inch wide mirrors blah blah blah blah blah blah call Lucia originally Lucifer Lucifer large binocular telescope near-infrared The Coincidence fiereck utility that's crazy it was a coincidence the only found enough letters for Lucy being a part of a gigantic religious institution and anemia telescope that you could say like the god I called the guy. We got God of Light and we got loose effect everyone guy opposed to at least one guy radius of Earth come on Costco blucifer okay's from Catholic why was their first name a telescope Lucifer the Vatican Observatory space no pun intended with shoes with other organizations and groups the Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment or nicknames does not own another group installed telescope nickname did Lucifer that would be hilarious if you have telescope right next to the vatican's telescope the serpent was the reason why we're human about Constantine was Pagan and even the mainstream history says that he never converted but meanwhile he was still Pagan right it's one of the other and then you start looking at the Vatican you're like man they're the ones who are creating the stuff that turn people away from the Bible they created The Big Bang Theory what if you believe in The Big Bang Theory you like cover the Bible be true Jesus beer in charge of The Big Bang Theory religion you want everything that's opposite of the religion right it's their religion the Bible tells you that we're on a special day in the Catholic religion I didn't say that doesn't make any sense at 8 this is because sacrifice don't have any dicks I never said that

do not what I see a crowd of Mexican conspiracy theorist ocean command and they're like all alien that they still think I'm the 2005 dude where I'm all I know is I can a lizard aliens from Aliens in the split I like 2,000 hanging out your f****** Guesthouse to it's doing bong hits 1 documentary nobody watch maybe there's a lot of guys maybe there's a f****** hundredweight I watch more space documentaries we would just sit there and there's like 12 parts to like his BBC Universe remember that giant alien bong that I have yellow fish bong Redban has that thing nobody was into space and aliens more than us that Bob Lazar documentary when Bob has art was saying things the 1990s that became true in the late to in the 2010s with turn terms of like Element 115 that they had this thing that they could Propel these patients with and everything is no such thing is like there's a thing they have is from another planet explain the propulsion system explained all this stuff it sounds like such nonsense but then to leave Bob mizar believes all that s*** I believe he don't believe it's true I believe you set up they let him talk too much flags and they going to come on JRE they're going to let him do the one Larry King Jen Eddie Bravo with the 3D chapter they want him to do that if you are on Netflix they want the Deep State wants you on Netflix so it's a good thing it's a good thing too I think he believes it you know just like William Cooper I think he he figured out he got set up there were trying to get him to believe that alien spacecraft his job Office of Naval intelligence William Cooper he wrote a Behold a Pale Horse he wrote that book he's like probably consider The Helio Gracie of conspiracy theory William Cooper he was in charge of putting together the documents for these top secret Naval Office of Naval intelligence meetings and he was reading them in a shootout they shot his ass dude I don't know if you noticed there's video on YouTube big watches willing to reach out to you now he said it was talking about space about like bases on the moon where aliens had based on the movie of all you got to do that all the time go to like you're not trying to aliens anymore and now you really don't know because he's a big part of it he's a big part of it of what he's a big part of me cuz he is the one who open my eyes to the fact that he thought he was being set up into he thought they're trying to just to believe in aliens so they can fake an alien attack so that'll Usher in the New World Order cuz what happens if the aliens attack we all unite and all the movies you seem in the movies but William Cooper she was the guy who he was like aliens exist I'm looking at these documents that having these meetings about this crashed alien aircraft so he's out at he's got his own little private radio on my early 90s radio but I don't like that in the late 80s early 90s damn right you whatever that before the way before they leave the show and then he's like all these m************ is setting me up there's this is all bulshit because they are setting up a fake Alien Invasion that's what they're doing

he think about how many bets are placed all Jesus Christ I mean there's so much money so much money out there people love to gamble f****** games when games are on people love to gamble what do you think of spent this week at Jamie is not paying their taxes and you can prove it is it because it's money is cast it's being thrown around mostly like why is there an issue with the government's got not getting herpes it seems ridiculous that grown adults could tell other grown adults that can't gamble but you can hear but you can't there Elizabeth going to be f****** loser to years ago Connecticut expose on 60 Minutes about women who have just lost their f****** mind gambling at Mohegan Sun because they installed no no disrespect to Mohegan Sun casino industry's slot machines with your mind why do these women we're going down there and losing f****** mortgage you know. they bang it out while you're at work Joe Rogan while I'm at work they start with a horse then they go to their you know those little boys they doing in in Jersey with him when he know when Atlanta City was Atlantic City you went to Union City right you pay fifteen bucks to get on a bus that gave you a coupon book and when you get to Atlantic City give me $15 in quarters back so that basically driving you the f****** Gamble and drive back but I believe in gambling I believe making a living I believe that it's an itch it's an illness whatever but when you're losing your house that's got that's where I want to know where that's where it bothers me it's just like cocaine drug abuse drug addict and the gambling addict no difference there is just a scary too because they're conscious like if you see the drug addict UCLA shooting up or whatever it is and you seem fainting you are there poor bastard when you see a guy was fully in the grips of gambling trying to figure out how to make get his money back as all jazzed up with adrenaline doesn't understand why she was like Michael Jordan this game was like Joey Diaz have the means to gamble is a f****** killer also like a Michael Jordan like I'm Michael Jordan and I'm not saying nothing about him of Michael Jordan 11 accusations that you hear that he even back on his own while I'm 1 basketball games I can do Saturday he was very competitive but now how Joey Diaz was doing it did you grow up in that would like Joey Diaz did they not have the means that was 19 years old okay one night they put a tent I'm betting on a f****** Nick game and they wanted $50 when you're 19 $50 a month if I get money that's a lot of you think you got the World by the balls so you do it again on Friday Saturday and now you enter this world Joe Rogan that get to dark it's it's instead of drug addiction of the alcohol today my lucky day it's like the people who go to the 7-Eleven everyday and you're trying to just get a pack of Rolling Papers you just going to rush you just left your Jutsu you just want to Rolling Papers and water and there's a guy in front of you and he's telling you give me 360-8464 and this poor f****** whatever gives them 20 lottery tickets and it's $118 this is what this guy is doing every day 7 days a week my friend 2200 hours of f****** week but every week is getting deeper and deeper into a f****** hoe because in your mind you think today is your lucky day and it's never your like I was in that hole when I was 19. And I saw a friend lose 80,000 when you're 18 years old they brag right that's that conversation among them and how much they lost 30000 they lose a weekend. The system is designed to bury the degenerate Gambler like from from August 15th Daddy's Secret Obsession that weighed 600 bats in Scrabble and a $3,000 Monopoly buying you have no idea like 7 months I played this f****** ugly game channel that I would start I knew the action I knew that you had a bet on Monday nights and try to win and you know what I lost every week at all these people who sell your information listen Arch Lisa f****** game lost Pete Rose batting lost even Michael Jordan that lost his room is that that's why he was asked to play baseball for a few years because it was a cover-up again I did not write this this is just things I hear on the road everybody has a f****** Bubba gambling grabs you f****** weird weird for a long time I'm playing Scrabble that would call up the Parker Brothers hotline big Mobsters would to dispute the rules and have them explain and what was going on Cafe you know gambling is a f****** nightmare and once you get caught in a web and you and Joe Rogan shutting me down then I start putting back with Jamie and then pretty soon I start plucking dipping into accounts and pretty soon now you're done now you got forced into a bad head I told you that I was a backer on the road for a while my friend Johnny be when I started making money doing stand-up I put together a little bankroll and me and him would go places and Gamble and he would win or lose you know sometimes you win sometimes you lose but it was just being an action was fun you know that kind of gambling but I was never good enough to like play those guys but I could play like people that will like my level and he bet like 20 bucks or maybe you want to get crazy belly 50 bucks I never bad like a lot of money gambling on pool but it makes you think more makes play like way more serious it's good free game and if you can have a friendly sparring partner they play like friendly games like maybe a race to 7 for twenty bucks so it's cost you probably in any city pool halls I don't know what the rate is per hour but they got to be like at least $25 an hour for a while to break it down for me I walk into a pool hall with Jamie why exactly make money and why is it that the people the room passing money around and how does that money get the first who's real simple everybody puts like you put in I'm in for a hundred and leave my boyfriend like everybody put in on one side pool in money and you know and then back to sky or they might be betting on the side they might not even be playing the game there's always Side Bad Side bets are probably more like you had a bet if you had a like a big pool game write in a they used to be a place called The West End Billiards I think in New Jersey West End I think it was called was he find West End Billiards it was a world-famous pool hall we would take the drive from from New York to go down in New Jersey to this famous pool hall that would have these like serious high-level professional play there and real high-level huh all of the country girl there for big money games Yu-Gi-Oh there and watch people play for $5,000 $10,000 in the best in the world would be there all the time I got to play against some of the best in the world that killed me but I got to play again them against them look real good guy or Earl Strickland or Johnny Archer and I'm just Joe Rogan barely could play it doesn't matter I put my money up enter the tournament I can play against you don't get invited so that does Joey Diaz come on the side and go listen I'm putting three to one odds on this and this guy is coming in from out of town and he wants to take a crack at them while he wants to pay $100 that's okay then you have to think how many barrels do we have to pull all your money together okay we got four barrels that means if you want to play sets we can lose four times so you have to be to lose a couple gain a couple like if you got to really play a guy out he's got to play 10-12 hours going back and forth and back and forth and the next day you go there in the morning you playing all through the night I don't know what the f*** they were on most likely some sort of amphetamines that was a big thing in the pool world for awhile guys would just break each other with gambling you just it would be about who quits it wouldn't be about who want is very rarely about like like you would you would be you would be frowned upon highly if you left on top of your head by five hundred bucks and you want to quit me and and I'm still ready ready to keep playing I still got money man let me win my money back if you just walked away nope I've got what I wanted I'm going to leave now like that would be you that you'd be good called bad action as I got two kids I got to get up at 7 and go bring it to the pool. Playing that kind of like gambling Laurel Canyon no more so I got to go the long way and I get off on Victory just to see it f****** always fell with the generous I'm petrified to pull into Epsom pheasant places were home to me great you've been on the 101 have you seen what that place is that where you took me there a couple times to eat we did, their member Hollywood Billiards you took me that was Hollywood Boulevard it's f****** a building what is it now the golden next time it was great walking. That whole area is completely that's what I meant crazymax Everly top of the food chain play 12 games I might win a couple am I get lucky when a few maybe I'll win 4 he's going to win way more he's going to get to 12 for sure quicker to be a terrible bet the bet would be how many games do I get to the bat if you say you'll never get past three in a row and I'm not exaggerating forgettable came with me. You don't forget I was going to Italian place yes that place is amazing and that's what I'm saying he he would break and run out on guys they would just get frustrated they be like what the f*** man they just get them get to shoot we watched him whose gambling some guy and when the set was over the guy was just pissed off because Max's wouldn't miss crazy just watch him a chance and play like the top of the food chain guy and gamble with him if it's just watching the difference between a kid who can play a little pools pretty good versus the world championship caliber poolplayers so precise technique is so clean and its angles are perfect and effortlessly moving the cube on the table how to play pool not that I didn't already play it before I met him but he taught me how to play it way better way better he made my game way more technical he was explaining things that I was just guessing before and he was explaining what was wrong with my Approach and like what was the blitz what's a better way to do it he's a wizard when it comes to technique that I need to make a living going from pool to pool hall or no way cuz he's not good reason artist to fortunately for Max he he makes pretty cool artwork like like to see some of it's probably on his Instagram no no no what is like mesmerizing he finds like the most beautiful pieces of wood and combines them together and they have to have a certain harmonic frequency like you drop someone has a cement for just like think things are you want to hear a certain sound from the would otherwise he won't use it he's like finding logs on the side of the highway and s*** and recognizing some weird hardwood that no one's ever used before he cuts it up and make you out of it the wizard like his chooser Aces many as you want you know sometimes you don't make them for a while make some for his friends won't let me pay for one I have to have to pay for everything just to not feel terrible he's like the nicest guy ever play some f****** pool too so I don't even know when this podcast started before we started percent to do most of it online and Banks I like you know they have Supreme Court on sports betting is he trying to get sports betting you problems but we all do 17 States also with them on this I think they want to do it and then they want it again so he would want he opposed it or they want it again they want wedding again because they have an NHL team in Vegas that's always been like the logic is that they'll be some issue whatever you can't be betting wear their Sports being played someone will throw the game everybody's whatever you want

I can do a lot 1975 with $1,000 with two kids my grandmother is obsessed with the numbers obsessed and she would always have like a number there had that she thought it was going to be and it was like one off or something like that it was like these stories would tell you what would you say that can I say I was like five so they put her in jail and so she made sweaters give sweaters to the guards mrs. D she's the nicest lady got cousin her she want to see her on and she's she's in the Pokey Flex 6 months I forget how much time was every time we go over there was like some new excuse to get a new jersey that put you where I lived thought they had intuition since weird intuition to do things as real weird like when my mother was a kid it was a rainstorm would real bad rain storm for whatever reason my grandmother decided to wake my mother up take her out of her bed and bring it downstairs some crazy hunched she had the ceilings collapse like right above the bed where my mom sleeping so like pieces of and I wasn't a lot or just chunks plaster three or four pretty significant pieces of plaster fell off of the ceiling is rain came through at the whole deal with the ceiling came out and somehow or another she had this idea in her head and it could be because she knew that the ceiling was f***** up and she knew it was raining hard as far as going to give him anyway or she might have had intuition of everyone's always convinced it was intuition everyone's a little bit sidekick chemical New Jersey yes in Newark New Jersey had a monkey named Chichi and chase you a bite everybody with my grandma pigeon in the house yeah they're not she was crazy and once you give no disrespect but once you give those lunatics that option that they do have intuition your done your f****** done they start giving you the fish eyes who don't do s*** you got to listen to him her cooking was from another planet from another planet it was like she or immigrant cooking like the pasta lasagna it just perfect just knew exactly what supposed to be in there she baked her own like that should make her own macaroni should make her own ravioli some stuff for on ravioli should be out there rolling throwing a flower give those like I listen when I was a kid man I went to my buddies judical I didn't join I just went down there to see what it was like and there was hidden in Union City it was on 7th street but I knew that my stepdad played cards on 9th Street on Wednesdays wow okay I do my step dad play I always had my eyes out as a kid when I went to Judo that man at the end I got on the bus to go back and I noticed unmarked police cars and I went home that night and look bro you know me dog get Christie love used to be a show on ABC about a black chick that new martial arts and tried to capitalize on it with his sister and she was good-looking with an afro when she was a cop that she come in and do karate moves on Wednesday nights at home watching I never forget that my stepdad was leaving that night and for some reason I know you don't reply back around today and he looked at me with getting dressed as suit on it like the Billy batsuit out of this year I love you and you walk down the stairs you got in the car started open the garage bro and 10 minutes later I heard the car turned off in the garage clothes and it came up and doesn't think you're right and he made Sundays for me and him and next morning that card place I got red and so now they would listen to me or not but you want me to who won the age where I wanted my mother for myself you know what the feeling is dry and we've all gone through it when you lose a dad and your mom remarried that comes in a day that he's not going to tell you what's going on anymore and you know what I just want you to know that I am the motherfuking that runs this joint you might be sleeping with my mom but I run this mother f***** so once I gave me that advice like it really for a while then him and I were going to float I kept stealing his coins from the Santa he has to say Lazaro thing in that was everything to him so we had this big bottle of like Scotch that was empty and you put silver dollars in there and I would steal them information bookmaker and how he became Partners on the butcher shop I started businesses he started different businesses so after I save this to that night with the baccarac he would listen to me and then one day I went and I'm kind of a Biddy Basketball in Union City and they used to give you know right now if you sign your kid up you got to pay $80 and purple shirt my number is 57 I walked in the house and he goes what you got there like at join the basketball thing and he knows what number is it he goes 57 Cubans again a very Superstition xt-74 the number on that and he picked up the phone I go 5 he called some guy niggars give me 5:57 for $10 guess what happened to the number came up now I really had them under my spouse motherfuker at the age of 12 so he wouldn't listen to me how old is the guy my stepfather one at the time was 47 did not drink did Imagine did not drink did not do drugs carry the straight razor Joe Rogan what is that that's what real pimps wear that Silk handmade shirts from China that you wear and have three little buttons when you're a real motherfukin spect you cut those buttons and you get your initials and you put them in gold with diamonds in it that's house fix ran in those days and once I had them there eyes so one night were in Union City and I f****** went somewhere on the walk back is a place called Pastore music and it was next to the new Moon Chinese restaurant and I saw a bunch of them my card and I never forget that I went back to the bar and he go and I told him I said don't talk to me like I had him even though he was a bookmaker he never use the phone Joe Rogan never use the phone and he would never have a conversation close to a phone he always felt he didn't that like phones he did everything like a pigeon his he would write the numbers on a little piece of paper real small and fold them up and put them in his hat and if you ever saw cops you would just eat the piece of f****** paper but when I went back I told him losing the cops show up to call that me and him he grabbed me by the hand and him and I walked from 29th and Bergenline to 58th and Bergenline down the Hudson telling different bar owners and there was going to be a raid like that's how untrustworthy he was a fault but by the time we got back to the bar we got raided and there was a doing that his name is Molina abiqua mon ennemi good man like that you're my brother yeah the album choir that wasn't that only p**** and how and the cops were there and they threw my time like 12. I'm up against the wall this they got my mom and they went to Moneta and they search them in the complex that is where you need to check the way and they pulled the way off and he had a little and they pulled the wig off and they had a little aluminum foil with cocaine

you know what's crazy like I always say the lights I don't mean to pronounce his name wrong and let him die alright likely for stay open. Let me group mentality like a motherfuker yeah he hits hard and all that stuff like that but now that dude still going to be more dangerous now he's going to f****** take that loss and come back we wait title this is like a total amount of training 5 years ago and they trained fighting for the heavyweight title and he's the favorite he's the favorite over guys already defended it twice that's crazy that's how talented he is that's terrifying is that's how special he is a loss like that to a guy like that like to a real champ like steep a is that what you realize where the top of the game is there's another is a few things to learn is a lot more days to get in and training has just begun to go see the difference I see the difference in the way he moves when he fought over with since significantly different than when I saw his first and second fight is for a second but she was very good but just insanely strong he would hit guys with these combinations and clean technique to man physically strong guy he's also very smart because he's learning to do everything mechanically very good it's not like a guy who's only been striking for like three or four years they look a little tight weird but they can if they land they got a lot of power now man everything is clean think about how will you learn in 5 years most these guys have way more time in way more time and wrestling way more time and kickboxing the average guy by Tommy gets the UFC I would like to know what the number is like how many years of training and competing they have but it's got to be more than two he was he was like right in the UFC and smashing people it's his amazing story man to the Amazing Story and for a lot of people the way it ended is a good passion for martial artists it's a good lesson see what even if you weren't got a fan you're bummed out that he lost I appreciate that I'm in Ghana fan fan too but I'm more of a fan of mixed martial arts I'm a fan of an honest like it's like I want to I want to know what it is like what what is this like what's this what's this contest right here what's what's actually going on here what's going on here is phenomenal athletic Talent is potential like a super Alpha athlete versus one of the toughest guys ever who's been in the game longer who knows more he's wrestled he's been fighting way more he's been the trenches way more times that dig deep you know what it's like to be really hurt and tired in a fight should I appreciate the strategy of like how do you go into fighting a guy like perfect hair was like Rocky against mr. Tate yeah f****** a little smart stay away from that punch it had to be and I haven't watch the full fight and I was working that night stage my brother getting hit by Francis ngannou MMA gloves or person he'd been there before that's an incredible lesson was for the overalls that the sport for the Mixed Martial Arts in general and the lesson is like he's figured out like he had like the craziest end of video game character ever right and God was like the big like the big boss in a video game that like 5 I got to play against this guy figured out how to beat them being 20-plus pounds lighter than them in a way no way lesson imitating in in terms of his physical presence almost eBay's pretty f****** intimidating but encountered so intimidating he's so next level 265 natural giant crazy frame you look it up when you next to Steep and that's when you realize how big is a dog I told you immigrant mentality would have never liked you but your dad could have called you Steve like you still call them Steep and may your G2 remember where the f*** you came from your understanding his father came that's really weird American Ingenuity is f****** brilliant and with the Immigrant mentality mix like let's say you're still an American but your dad could have called you Steve but you can still call them Steep and may your G2 remember where the f*** you came from your understanding his father can that's really weird

but I am dying to hear the next door neighbor them epshteyn I can't stop thinking about it so there this night logic this Venture capitalists get together and then they they they figured out the world and do this year and they leave here the reason they're billionaires is because they're super competitive and they f****** hate their other competitors she was I couldn't get 5 instead of table because one dude f*** the other guy's ex-wife the other guy was doing the other guy the other guy wasn't trying to take you down there make a lunch with us we wouldn't go for business flat earthers the official story it's adorable we do that right now it's all these different famous people there's a bunch of crazy really rich influential people that went to the Bohemian Grove and dress up like Druids and they chanted think I've ever seen it you are videos on John Watson is legit as they come straight down the middle variability think they're doing early on and they feel some kinship just like the Freemasons on and they're burning an effigy the supposed to be a sacrificial person but it's draw in a bundle the Imagine Golic multi-millionaires you know Marina Abramovic the footage from Bohemian Grove there really was his heads of Banks and head to believe that right and they're all together right so when they talk about business look at this this is a hidden footage to Jon Ronson Alex Jones got from Bohemian Grove in like the f****** late 90s play rap music or the one with dude would give me give me the volume and camping what are you camping things do Littlewoods guard checkpoint and I have I have in this area of the same area in the states there is this I have a friend who's the producer who got in with one of the biggest producers of all time for a while I don't say any names but he was in that crew that's like the services producer he's got this crew of all these different people in his crew to produce we went to a city by Bohemian Grove Warren Road nobody no one has access to unless you're part of this group and it's a big ass City because it's like it's like you're in some Middle East like Abu Dhabi Prince City where everything is paved and just it's insane Bohemian Grove drugs nobody's looking at my place, that's where they're protected the office of this guy who has these intelligence connections who's a benefactor of science he loves herself together and he was banging his girl then they go to an island so they think they're fine you're being videotaped and you're also being used to influence policy and influence people like

happening right now is where we're at a point now where more people don't trust the mainstream information coming in more than ever and it's got to the point it's it's snowballing where there's a an army that the Anton's QA not that there aren't onimus but they're all on the same track looking for the truth digging digging making Utah channels blown there's all these YouTube and they're all popping up they're becoming the new news the real news no commercials no bulshit motherfukers that's the worst thing you could give a politician he's a Russian agent and get killed for that s*** they came to worship they gave him Russia racism rape head of like proving their integrity and being unflappable and sticking to the Titus journalistic stand again they actually slept you no matter what happened no matter what Trump does they take their it's also happening at the same time. One of the ways that Trump got a lot of attention when he was running for president is being outrageous so they would cover him so all these these news channels that thought they were going to expose him for being a jerk or for st. Croix best shopping cart cover him they just made him more and more popular so their business Grew From making fun of him from talking s*** about him from saying he's going to be impeached from saying he's going to be in jail that was a part of their business and then it's stayed apart their business when he started calling them fake news Yelp and so now instead of being like at the tightest of journalistic standards they have actually resorted to a lot of clickbaity s*** because now people aren't really reading newspapers anymore and they're only watching like short clips online and have a body count better than ever unemployment better than Albert that's what we have a president here for to make our country better more prosperous just the biggest trucks why she can't anybody again about Trump and they thought by doing that they're going to sink him they really did they didn't realize how resilient is my boy right now we know because all this about we know about all this ship because all the all the people that are going down we know it's still going on when he's dropping right now he was Trump and the people around him it's there it's an intelligence dissemination program you don't believe it. the people who really want the best for the country not the Looney left and I want the best for the country he left once a trillion dollars 911 happen to no one brings it up so if we have a World War right now those people who go to prison Siri the Q plan what they want because a lot more it's a lot more complicated than that but do they want a World War do they want another 9/11 f*** yeah dude you don't think that's what this is all about this is what they do go to countries countries and they say listen we're going to give you a billion dollars and ate and you're going to kick back half of it or whatever into our foundations as donations and then we get our money back and then you're going to hire my son put them on one of your energy bored and have your taxpayers pay him a hundred k a month they been doing that works in his cabinet right his son-in-law works for the government I think it's not the same thing is not illegal because your family jobs is what they do may or may not have been an accident that was a mistake now that won't respect your speculate speculate Americans Bose face and there's no electric today thank you sometimes I haven't slept in over he is on the down-low he's slipping into it deep into it

Jeffrey Epstein's Ranch in Albuquerque he actually owns a western world like this like Westworld and Jeffrey Epstein western town in Albuquerque little Lots sell there's like 10 different freaking outfit jumpsuit that we would lose that there's a cord there's a pain hits nuts and his brothers doing ride is outside or in the words like I know it if it looks like I'm here to be like oh no he didn't I'm telling you look at all this stuff like you only have to go bad in the HBO series who was who hung themselves Within especially where the marks at who knows if if that's all just a distraction till I can get people arguing make it so obvious that it was it wasn't a suicide so obvious he died and all they care about is that he's dead it does virtually a media blackout on it for the longest time but big badass talk about something cuz the longer the mainstream media doesn't talk about it the more obvious it looks and it's waking everybody up you know how many people were super anti conspiracy theorist that woke up a lot of people 9/11 woke people up Michael Shermer Michael shermer's Connex Pierce everybody people that hate conspiracy theorist balls deep and there's a guy on YouTube everyday he puts out all he does is Fury's written books on gangsters and every day he puts out a Epstein video on update and just on Atwood kisling Maxwell's father he was the one who was originally doing what Epstein was doing Epstein took to everything started Bangin just laying she takes him because you know what you're going to take over the family business the family business is it's not just blackmailing the elite that's part of it but the big part of it I don't know but like I'm afraid to talk about this I don't know you were definitely okay well we'll have to go to that guy's page William whatever this this been a lot of credible people to think that I was well acted alone I don't think so that's so crazy could make it even more fun when you're up me like shut down our throats with obvious now it's all out in the open so any plausible theory that you can't laugh at like that one video from Jeffrey Epstein suicide attempt has gone jail officials inadvertently preserved footage from wrong floor just think you're definitely going to go to one of the islands in Japan or one of them probably have so many spots set up a smart instead of some spot and in like the Greek Islands or somewhere like off northern coast of Norway Greenland Greenland could Munoz what agreement they can have all these cities we think he has a kill switch you don't think I do dad think you probably do in Manhattan nice person gives you a $79 out back in the eighties apparently used to do that all the time maybe whatever it was worth you know they would often do that just say it's a zero property next to that man damn I wish you could go over that man crazy Epstein has been involved in intelligence for very long as long as long as the Iran-Contra scandal member lot of drugs come in there and help him it's like all this illegal Black Ops George senior was the main actor on Epstein person was one of the workers that he was in yes it she was the main one she brought everything into the operation it just when you go through the owners like there's like nothing was going on now the biggest phenomena that's going on right now is with the internet the internet is like backfiring and Boomerang and back of the people control and surveillance you didn't have to let go until each other and send it in the mail know that could be one of the reasons the people that invented the Internet why they invent it never it was all funded by the CIA is all the way to keep it's always about the New World Order it's always about the easiest way to control us that's all so there's this controllers that's all so okay there's just give me one of his jobs was

history Crater Lake to have all the stuff and go through all the different theories and so I can what's crazy with history is now we can see it before people just told it it wasn't until like the 20th century that really people saw it before that it was just people telling stories about 12 Usher Got translated and all I see what the Bible but for sure, in my heart I'm a hundred I believe it 100% and there is some stuff in the Bible that's the real s*** there is no it comes from the real ship it got distorted and translate or not real sure on how to live your life right don't deceive anybody don't tell each other then you will be so into a certain area that I wasn't into my account starting to look into the Bible remember the first got back in my 2005 when I was like full-blown like that but you know against religion or not dude what are you doing dude you showed me the way and now you're looking in the Bible goes I know it sounds crazy but you got to look into it too there's this isn't just a book with crazy Fairy Tail this is some real s*** of the times of the people that live back down as best they could tell it translate it down over thousands of years absolute truths in the Bible and is some great guides to live your life but there's also some nonsense Christian Christian well the mainstream story Ranch Lutheran are being don't you know I think I don't know I don't know I don't know I didn't think the energy in our body go somewhere there's something that makes us you know like I can I can feel certain things like love or intuition stuff like that that there has to be something you know I think I'd go somewhere I don't think there's a heaven in hell has some really good advice on that he said as if God is real it did really does you really do have that kind of gratitude and humility that you're you're being watched over by a loving God is a benefit to thinking like that about doing the right thing how do we get the people to do the right thing and I believe there's a God because a couple things you know when that when I did DMT I went into I thought okay there's more there's way more s*** to this reality this Dimension that are not there into your trying to find out what we're on and what what this is all about and then you look at the Main Street I think someone created what we're at whatever you want whatever you think this is in consideration this is something I don't believe in simulation is there evidence but if you look at probability theory was that guy's name that was the the the guy Nick Bostrom we talked about it in-depth and he said according to probability theory is more likely to win in a simulation is real then the simulation goes on forever in the space that everyone thinks it would be a part of leaving at like computer if it's not like it could be one of the facets of life like we could be creating a simulation just through culture and society and that simulation is literally how we enter into another dimension we're looking at it like it's some nonsense simulation could literally be how dimensions are created the created creativity and Ingenuity nnnn Innovation over long periods of time with millions of people working in conjunction it different people to figure out processing power and coding and all these different things and next thing you know you've got these there's there's these virtual reality places like we have an Oculus out there that you can put on all these games it's really fun but there's some virtual reality places now that you go into a warehouse and you go through this whole thing you know there's a there's a place that's in Disneyland and there's another place down the street called sandbox you play games oh there's that there's an arcadis VR arcade at the Westfield Mall in Riverside it's called us one right here but don't you think if I was not right in the head to be ways there for me commit suicide by just thinking the snow hole simulation if human beings keep going we definitely will create a simulation it's just a matter of time so if that's the case how do we know that we're not in one already and we really don't everyday we go to sleep and everyday we wake up and we assume and we have faith that all that stuff that we remember is really how life went on before we're awake but we really don't know really don't know when you blackout and then come back to who the f*** knows what's transpiring who knows where your Consciousness goes who knows where you are Dawn 8 Hour seems like a second all Senor froggy couple minutes to wake up and boom we're that time go where are you who are you you're assuming that all of the stuff that you know and all the stuff the experience is 100% real but what if it is real what you mean if the simulation is real is it real we are on this Earth within a hundred years away from making something that's indiscernible from what we experienced everyday and that's inevitable it seems like just how people do it and what I'm saying is that might literally be how your Consciousness transforms into whatever next stage of existence or is we might it might be something that human beings do like a caterpillar makes a cocoon and becomes a butterfly human beings make crazy f****** technology and I think that's one of the reasons why we're so invested in everybody loves the things they love shiny things especially the new ones all the other newest car at the faster the newest computer has better graphics issues as all this stuff as we're paying for newer and better s*** it's fueling all this Innovation which making crazier and crazier technology until artificial intelligence until we create something that you can't turn off what you owe you download your Consciousness and you just you just you know you can't download schnitzel in a simulation might be is that when we open this up with sufficient power and technology and processing power whenever you are might go into this thing that's a bit of a bummer though right I don't know I think about it like let's say when you're a hundred and finally technology against download your Consciousness into another body you just keep going like man that's his head this is it we don't go on its that's depressing as f*** them it's kind of fat mean what are we thinking and talking when you thinking of yourself like you but use it when using the word I I am going to do that so I'm going what does that mean like where are you you're you're you're in this strange being that's got a finite life-span it's not really that long if we're lucky down to f****** the the poorest people in the world everyone's guessing it's all weird it's all real weird and it's all we're going to die in the next generation is going to pick up in the next Generation after that was going to pick up my put life is because of technology and science your you know that the average lifespans going like this more information you can look at history you can look at how long we've been here at the more they start they just found another asteroid impact from 800,000 years ago locate the crater in the library I'm watching on YouTube this it's becoming these people are or realizing like there's only been a short amount of time we're human beings have been human we've only been human for a half a million years at the most. So she have kids you know and that your species is going to go extinct you think all the good times you had killing muskrats and cook them over the fire with your kids and and hiding from Jaguars and show you think all those good times like this is we're not going to be us anymore you think of this is a computer simulation at what point like when did it start like an 1800 the 1600 200 a D 5000 BC when did when was the beginning of the simulation City baby no more crazy there's a video game where you literally created Universe create a plan and you put things on in like Jimmy was it no man's sky is like the big bang means that the entire universe the smaller than that of a pain at one point in time. what how do we not know the universe only press start on a program that has billions of years ago out of nothing everything exploded me a million percent so he was in only people who are higher up and people have money saver in a simulation yes they got me. I bet you there's not one dude we're going to make Duncan I think it's a simulation dude with the thing about a guy like Elon Musk who's one of the proponents of the simulation Theory sing about a guy like him is he's got enough resources to relax a little bit but also he is involved in technology every day and part 1 of smart people and he's financially stable so he can stop and think and think about things in a way where he's not he's not overburdened by be like he has stress is for sure and obligations for sure massive ones 3 giant company but what he doesn't have is like survival stress survival stress about be like being poor or being in danger without brazo the level of his IQ is so high right he's on a different frequency to might be too smart there's a lot of things where when he speaks I go but I don't agree with them you know I like that plan once I start seeing like organic matter like a body parts and they watch it under like some computer or numbers and stuff then I be like that means everything that's physical you're experiencing in a simulated way so it could be everything it could be like if you are if it's just your mind experiencing things that you're mine translate as being physical Sensational why would it have numbers and I do and maybe we do live in a simulation I think things are a lot weirder than anybody wants to admit or or or or so much information the internet and other smart people just overthinking everything and there is no stimulation live your life it's over man lights out could be could be closed could be could be something that's because we want to hope that our contributions are permanent and we're going to we're going to somehow or another come back in another life kids coming to playwright you seeds else out that the way you treat people in the things that you rub off on other people start to carry it on

400 whatever no that's coming already an expert death whistle sounds of a demon okay you write out your a****** everything else is gone since it's a family and Funtime you don't waste time like stuff you have to do that's not fun but ensures that the fun times we continued it true like this when exercise work you got it you got to put in the time you have to go to hustle if you don't hustle you not going to join the fun time how we are right now he's having fun you really can only do this correctly if you're not worried about some s*** like you have some other stuff that you should be handling but you're not you're blowing some things off yep yeah your daughter has a recital or some s*** you know he's supposed to be there if you want to hang with your boys that'll fuk with you

10 days in I think something like that stays the night so I'm 11 days and I start a couple of days before and I've been eating nothing but meat bacon steak elk meat extra fat if I eat the El Camino you lust after all song I don't know my blood work done last one day I'll get the results back soon and then I'm going to do it again at the end of the month but I've already lost 7 pounds feel good voice that I was getting fat instantly I've been ever I didn't like 190 right now but I'll tell you what's bad about it first diarrhea is rough and eating only state gets boring like diarrhea no door knob hot starving up your far from home and there's a Burger King in that's it there's a Burger King for order for Whoppers and then I'll take the meat out of them and I'll just eat the meat okay yeah I want to see what's up cuz I know a lot of people that I respect that right like Jordan Peterson particular that guy's a f****** genius and when he's telling me what a massive impact it's had on them cognitively he said that intellectually he says in his prime he said all of his immune system autoimmune issues went away and that's what Vitiligo is an auto-immune issue so I'm seeing what happens with that too but that doesn't really spreading any but with him he was having gum issues receding gums that went away this is gums actually came back in this. It was a job asleep to that's what he started she's got serious arthritis like really bad and it helped it right and there's one thing that human beings been eating since the beginning of time like this idea that human beings are herbivores it's pretty much nonsense one of the main reasons why we became what we are they think is because we started eating meat we started getting better access coating for cooking eggs and figured out how to harness fire and then through hunting started getting more devious and started thinking and have a better critical skills and then eating mushrooms I think all those things but that's just I talk too much about me that's that's your trigger percent of the population of the planet Earth eats meat this is what vegans are as very loud and very vocal you know that they want to make it look like what your body feels like when you eat things everybody's body different everybody's body reacts to nutrients differently to processed foods we can all agree that is not good for anybody and then I killed most of the sugar most of the b******* and then before I went on his diet I got off the rails little bit too many too many carbs too much pasta I was eating like f****** Subs mommy has a lot of calories like you going to run some tamhane Stout type miles to burn off that s*** but so all the different things that can f*** with your health and all the different ways to make what makes you feel good what makes you feel bad depending upon your biology lifestyle I'm experimenting you know so this is my experiment for the month just meet for the month so far this is the most amazing thing I was just no carbs before you pray to eating carbs or some form of carb are you if you were born with spiky and days like this that I would love I love pasta I would make like elk sausage in a big bowl of spaghetti it's a good bar with your whole Dale knife-like think of it this way how awfully would you want to get laid if every time you got laid you gained 20 lb she's not enough f*** this dude or I'm not feeling great was really boring about 5 days in but no like I said now it was today the 9th so today is 11th Ave and there's no problem I know what I'm doing my biggest issue I put on weight switching December was the road cuz whenever I get Philly cheesesteaks or your kids Pizza Hut just it's just so you know she'll be more disciplined it's late to get done at 1 to a.m. yep I just figured out yeah people did eat like this though there's human beings are eating like this for long periods of time maybe I do they didn't crazy like any was he like this Native Americans of Comanches they like this Comanches barely ate anything other than Buffalo

I'm happy you're back but I'm not happy that there was a motivation to bring you back based on the violence you know the violence that is going on between the cartels and it was the Mormons and then there was we were just talking about this other person that got shot because they ran a cartel Roblox basically in Somali Buzz a lot of the cartel boobs actually make they build their roadblocks in the on the state and local roads and according to what I heard from some of the people that I know they're this family ran one of those roadblocks they didn't know if it was cops or not and they apparently decided to run the roadblock and the cartel guy shot them what should someone do if they encounter cartel roadblock slow down I mean if if if anything I would probably avoid traveling to those areas that's the number one women's usually know and I've actually gone through some of those myself yeah and it's it's all about their there they're looking out for the for Rivals moving through their territory they looking for government Personnel may be spying on them and usually usually they'll just shake you down for some money and they let you go on your way unless you have a 4 by 4 truck that can use for their you know their own purposes which is how they might take your truck yeah specifically in Tamaulipas 4 by 4 truck that are commodity for them they use them for their wrong going down Turf War all right especially someone else's that they don't mind getting shout out I mean most of the truck so you see any went that are armed up armor or they have the rifles on top or usually stolen vehicles all of them are so in vehicles and a lot of them are the Americans Crossing into Mexico truck stolen I in in in Tamaulipas you see the video and and in the cartel guys come out of the car they grab the the the the owner of of a pickup truck they get him out of the car and take a cellphone leave it on the sidewalk because they are very aware of all the SOS technology and they take them inside of inside of another car and they take the truck and you thought he would think you know it's it's because he did something or he's he's involved in something let me go a few blocks later and just took the truck it was all wow now resources and acquiring resources for their for the war basically nice of them to let him go but I think most people in America are just now waking up to the chaos that's going on down there I think that the Mormon assassination was a real wake-up call but I think people are paying much more attention now we we talked about this Iran is like 5 months yet a lot of the stuff we talked about those five months ago kind of that's how things progressed we actually did mention the Mormon can meet us down there which was kind of eerie yeah and we talked about the possible designation of cartels as terrorist groups Terry action against them and then there was some sort of negotiation with the president Mexico and what it what do you think went down there so I mean this is just from what I see and from the how things traditionally happened down there Mexico currently has a current currently up a leftist president now there is very to the left so much to the left that he recently gave Eva Morales the deposed leftist president of Bolivia asylum in the country and there's been a lot of venal Pro left political stuff going on in Mexico basically as soon as the designation Threat by the US came down there was some sort of negotiation and a lot of things happened after after some us officials went down there and talk to the government among them ever Morales is out he's he went to Cuba apparently and then went to Argentina so he's not going to stay in Mexico former head of the public security under the Calderon Administration which is two administrations bath the president Calderon is the one that started the drug war he was arrested for cartel involvement and basically receive money from the cartels he was going through his immigration process and he was actually asking for full citizenship and they got them online through the authority of the immigration authorities he said that he never received money from the cartels apparently he did a lot of it I'm so all these things happened after after they walked back the threat of designating cartels as a terrorist organization so there has been some action so they must have made some negotiation where trumpet said listen we're going to do this and it said hold up stock one of the things that the current president creating a national police force National Guard is is what he calls it which had already kind of been done before but you don't change the name change the uniforms change the packaging and it's a new thing right he want he wanted the Army out of the drug war because of the casualties when mounting on both sides and he said it wasn't a military should be a military operation and he ran on a platform that would call David Russell's noble gases which means hugs not bullets but Jesus Christ amnesty for the cartels was basically kind of the main theme of that so you got into Power first thing you did militarized police forces and create a National Guard and is all in try to dissolve the federal police and most of that the National Guard force was designated to border patrol duties on the Mexican side so some of them went to the South of the Border South Southern Mexican border and some of them went to the north when were basically to stem the whole illegal immigration crisis with the Caravans that's what kind of happened it was a kind of a collaboration between the US and the Mexican Government so that was one of the key points of collaboration that they had and when this whole designation thing went up that was kind of like a bargaining chip to the Mexican Government had with the US and the rest of the things that kind of transpired afterwards so you know it's pretty interesting how a lot of things happened after that. down there and how they walk back the the terrorist designation so the terrorist terrorist designation would mean that Trump would have some sort of incentive to invade Mexico it would open up the possibility for military direct military action against the nation that destroys also targeting finances or anything related to cartel activities would be targeted where are the cartels keep their cash it's it's it's a it's right now with a myriad of things Italy Diversified long ago so it's not like they're keeping very cash you're not in any container container somewhere in the in the jungle like Escobar you to do right but still finding some some like rotted cash from the 80s they putting their money in cryptocurrency that it real he's like legit companies with a clean their money that way real estate hotels property on the US side so they're also investing on the US side of the Border as well so you know money's it's it's not you know what's on under the mattress work you know giant stack of cash in the rooms and what kind of banks do business with the cartel while how did they negotiate that I'm not going to say names but that's been a few cases of pretty large banks that have been involved in in in money laundering for the cartels recently look it up easily but you would think you would have a designated cartel you would have cartel designated as terrorists so now they're Banks involved in funding terrorism so that would change things that's you know there's a lot of things that would happen you know something some of these consequences of the people talk about as a terrorist and centrioles down their things that they kind of don't talk about is that if a terrorist designation does happen most people seeking asylum in the US from Mexico now have a claim running from terrorists in in Mexico so now they can claim that as far as Asylum seeking people can claim that now it's a different thing the main argument a lot of people say is that cartels aren't the canopy considered a terrorist terrorist group because they don't have political aspirations the problem with that theory is that we have a lot of political killings by cartels in Mexico where they shoot the Katerina ones side of the political spectrum because it's not good for them so they influence politics they also pay off a lot of politicians out there and they also examples of the new generation cartel from Guadalajara giving out Christmas gifts or groceries to the poor basically doing hearts and Minds type tactics in the area are clear political movements right now so you know well that's that's in classical the classical definition of that is a terrorist group that's what they're basing it on I think the cartels and in a narco-terrorism is a thing in itself it's a new phenomenon that should be terrorism should be reclassified to include it I think you know most people that live through that type of situation and that type of man. Pepper are in the Country Buffet think some of these cars out threats that have flooded will call it what it is situation in that type of berry in the country but facing some of these cars out threats that have flooded will call it what it is

and you know you'll get to a point where it's going to be I think in my life there's going to be some sort of arm into MIT intervention Mexico at some point really so you anticipate almost like in a Civil War I think something's going to happen in Mexico is going to destabilize it so much that the US won't have another option but to put boots on the ground probably that's I think that's that's where we're headed into the problem and again another the problem is that the government is part of the problem so you can go down there and negotiate with this government but six years later going to be another government and you got to renegotiate with them and also use you Palm grease yeah and then you put all your faith in the military and the military gets compromised you put all the faith in you and the Mexican Marines and then they get compromised and I will who do you have so it's a stomach don't tell that to Trump use as an excuse we can't count on them we're going in I hear I mean I wonder where it all goes as it is obviously growing very fast it's obviously huge incredibly powerful and it and it affects I mean I'm up here now and I could see the effects of it up here walking through La seeing all the needles on the ground go into Seattle seeing the same fentanyl laced fentanyl laced heroin that I saw in Shantytown sound effects of it throughout so you realized quickly as somebody from both sides that I am you realize that they're realistically there's no there's kind of no border when it comes to this problem it was brought this doesn't respect the border wall but submarines will do around couples will go under it drones will fly over it and it's a it's a it's a problem that just keeps producing an effect and I think the majority of the United States citizens are completely unaware of the complexity and the depth of the problem yeah I mean it is I think most people seem to be around thing right now most people know more about that going on that's what's crazy to me invading countries that are really barely affecting us there like a 17-hour plane flight I think I think I don't I don't want to be at a Damas and predict stuff at a Damas but the fact that we have a lot of lithium and tomorrow is going to be a factor for the reason to clean it up good baits pretty important to pretty important resource El Chapo's son that's why I think a u.s. gun is going to have to put some boots on the ground on their wow you had to make a bet like there's a betting line Vegas like how many how many days how many years from now where they be American soldiers deployed to Mexican I'd say 5 years maybe in five years really I mean we are on we just passed this past year has been the most violent year in Mexico in recorded history really and it's the first year of his administration of this new president white who's been trying to hugs hugs hugs and not pull itself out in the last scene of this instead of that his it's been his first year and you know that give him a chance he's he's he's doing whatever you need only the most violent year in history but then I go down there and I have a lot of a lot of my friends that are still down there people that have trained still down there and I hear from them directly like I have some young kids are on the and our media which is like a federal police worth it that the trolls all of Mexico and some of the federal federal police guys they tell me like I said we're they said or you sign a new contract to be the one another no and lower your pay and all the all of the stuff that all benefits will be gone or you just stay on here in limbo and just stay at the base and lotto and we're staying at the base so it's nothing nothing nothing nothing is being done and it seems like the cartels are just taking over and they're making a shitload of money and you're not making any money my dad says the real crazy thing about it right there if the the government is asking people in this sort of already compromised situation and environment asking them to work for a small amount of money to go after people that are making a tremendous amount of money and you're going to be a war with these people these people they're basically your neighbor's yeah and also you go there with a federal uniform by far the federal government you going to a community where the federal government doesn't do anything for them the church is made by the cartels, told me the road Christmas was brought brought to you by the cartels they they are good guy so he's got to come in here like you guys like one of those either one or we're not going to so that's you know it's it's it's it's it is a mess. Mess wow could boots-on-the-ground actually fix anyting I mean I'm not I'm not I'm not a military expert but there have to be some sort of outside force that is completely uncompromised by Cartel money and influence how long for the compromise those people well when you put the Marines On the Border a few of them got picked up on smuggling people from the border so yeah smuggling people from the border so yeah because a lot of Blood Ties to Mexico

members when you combine all the cartels how many members are we talkin about that's that means pretty hard to put a number on how I will say this more than a million I will say this they defeated the Mexican Army in Sinaloa when they captured and then the Army gave it back whole situation and it was like but I remember that was happening and I was getting asked questions about and it was life it was all of a sudden just popped off the basically is supposedly the official story from the Mexican Government is that they send a special police unit to capture him right which is completely false I think because you don't send three five agents to capture one of the heads of one of the biggest Sinaloa cartel sells night since pretty much by chance they've spotted this party people are on there and they went there all the sudden Chapo's son is of the capture of the sun you can see it and you can see the surprise and really how the agents are kind of uncomfortable or fearful of what they just Dumpling on imagine usagin stumbling on one of the America's Most Wanted individuals of here I got to put him on the ground are going to handcuff in the video you can see that they Point their rifles at him and he calmly takes out his gun and hand it to somebody inside of the inside of the house he was in and walks out and kind of try to negotiate with the people outside the federal agents are trying to arrest them and you can see that the agent for like oh what did we Stumble Inn on all right so that happened they grabbed them they reported back to Mexico the captured him he started to announced the capture and his brother his half-brother archibaldo basically called in all of the enforcement from all the surrounding towns and regions in Sinaloa and it was flooded with a bunch of armed cartel guys policy know I was wasn't a video of the government people in the cartel people talking yeah they don't it's on my feed you can see it if you want it so it's basically an army unit that was being sent to reinforce Security in in culiacan being surrounded by Cartel members and also there is that there's talk about there's a there's a specific immunity out there is he a law where all they fat Army families members live and they were apparently being held hostage by Cartel guys as a barn bargaining chips all dressed in civilian clothes with the vest those are all cartel guys are all cartel guys Jesus Christ and that zilong cartel was basically surrounding some of their communities and Helen holding their family members hostage so that went out over the radio so as an army member going into fight the cartels and do what I'm out of this light so they raise their hands and other than the release of hostages everybody backs out yeah I mean there's they've defeated the Mexican Government basically classica classical Mexican cartel activity they closed off the streets going into the City by burning semis and trailers and stuff like that so you would see all these burning semi trailers in the region so if you want to move in you can and if you want to use your helicopters the cartels have anti-aircraft capabilities so they broke out a bunch of people from the prison just taking advantage of the whole chaos Etsy there's a few on the videos with that there's a armored trucks with 50000mah Deuces on the back of them just moving around the city there's no way there's no way you can answer the breakout state prison took advantage of the whole chaos and just you know let's just let's let's break some of our friends out of chaos eventually they let that the government decided to let him go that's the official story but according to the people there government saying let him go there was like the guys holding him that you know what it's not worth it. That's one of the Leah technicals that's it, I'm up here at dump trucks they armor plate the sides and and put somebody on it's part of the culture and do some people and some of these communities think you know because the cartels are those are the guys in charge so is Sinaloa always been like that has traditionally been the cradle for like the origins of some of the hot love some of the more successful cartel heads lots of lots of lots of anybody that's anybody into a lot has some sort of relationship to the cartels because they're part of culture there there's no way getting around it had a surreal experience ones when I went there I did a class out there and the was running around this bumpy road and then all the sudden just flat beautiful Road the cartel part of the road that they built exactly exactly but it's now and there a more hardcore hardcore some of their gravy they have a highly visible Maya is called is the Narco Cemetery they have and it's basically luxury condos they look like by me I went there I thought it was a church didn't turn out to be a tool might solely the opulence in the money there is just over you know and then how they move around the roll around in vehicles with guns and nobody does anything because they owned what can be in what are they planning on doing it was anybody have any plans or is it just they just accepting this while you know you you get a lot of rhetoric about collaboration yeah that's that's how the invisible Maya all those are Graves some of them have CCTV video inside air conditioning unit alarms go there The Day of the Dead have music wife and shoot the Rockets into the air nobody does anything Jesus Christ it's crazy I mean the opulence is mate I mean seeing it and it's like having several Escobar's in one place and I was. It's like a lot of a lot of the cartels heads are from that region and allow their kids grow up in that and the opulent is amazing f*** like this going to grow I think it is I didn't I mean I don't think it is it is growing again. Going back to my friend John Norris and I like seeing his experiences up here finding all these illegal drug grows in in in in in public lands it's growing it's going over here to roots and they sent their wives up here in a lot of these kids that were born in the late eighties early nineties coming-of-age up here with that cartel pedigree so and they're US citizens US Passport so you're going to see some shift their coming-of-age experience you get you know I hand off of reigns with the older Generation Tiffany regeneration you're going to see the definitely it's definitely growing it seemed so crazy to watch because it seems it's not discussed nearly enough and it it seems like if it keeps getting stronger like what we saw was El Chapo son being released what's the stop it from taking over Mexico entirely different ways so another thing that people going to have to figure out and realizes that there's factions in Mexican the Mexican Government so you will see a federal government that apparently paid off by a very specific large cartels and then you'll see state governments that are of a different political party they influenced paying off by other cartels in groups so you'll see me know that military units moving on the town and the state police blocking their way to get in there because they play for different teams like whoa and there's a lot of talk right now about that Felipe Calderon 10-year and how his head of security ahead of public if he was on the payroll of the Sinaloa cartel which actually came out during El Chapo's trial so now you're talkin about basically federal police force that was on the opposite side so he had free reign to grow and do whatever we had to do in that region with the support of the federal government in a way so check technically and I know who's in control some reagent and realistically some regions of Mexico I need to grow and do whatever he had to do in that region with the support of the federal government in a way so check technically you know who's in control somebody didn't and realistically some regions of Mexico are completing cartel control

what's going on with the Mormons now is are they moving out of there now are they going to go back to Utah just take one wife but then it was like a friendly hello from them from Passenger actions and then this happened and no a kind of advise a little bit but that's the only thing it's it's a mess a lot of a lot of more leaving communities down there is a lot of them down there in a lot of communities in Sonora kawila and leaving just leaving the area it's just too dangerous and only makes sense mean they just don't have the arms they don't have the Manpower and they're also in the middle of one of the most important regions in Mexico right now for a lot of reasons main thing there's two things that are really really kind of happening in that region one the traffic the trafficking of Fentanyl and heroin and all these drugs through one of the main drug routes up into the u.s. and there's a few factions fighting over that reads Los Salazar which are small cartel faction that has allegiances to Sinaloa cartel and the Linea cartel which has historically been in control of the Zealot Suarez so they're both kind of buying for control the area a few hours before the massacre actually took place there was a bunch of firefights between these two factions in the area so one of the main theories is that these this group of Mormons basically were case of mistaken identity going to driving into some of the areas with their being protected by some of these people that's one Theory the other thing that people kind of need to think about is that the largest and mineable minable deposits of lithium on the planet right now are a few hours away from where that Massacre took place and that is and there's a lot of interest in that space and control and they're not mining it currently there's there's a bunch of projects in play right now so they have identified the deposits yeah and I'll be able to look up the numbers but it's it's the largest mineable deposit of lithium on the planet and there was some sort of deal in the past where the Canadian mining agency was going to have rights to it than the mining agency was bought by the check by chinese company so again after that Massacre a lot of things happen a lot of things what happened that called that deal was one of the things that got killed after that situation know right so it's it's it's it's an interesting area there's a lot of things happening there that's going to put a tremendous amount of pressure on the cartels and somewhere right well I need some sort of mining operations usually has industry around it which is perfect for the cartels no extortion protection rackets feeding the drug use in the area from the workers and that's any way that you could see in the future the cartels being extracted from the positions of power of their endowment or is this something that people in Mexico going to have to live with forever and I guess people United States as well or is this something that can be fixed you've you've talked about before and some of your podcast and I want to listen to them a lot wait podcast and it is it is definitely part of the solution legalizing some drugs and I'm not all drugs are made the same maybe not fentanyl you know there's there's multiple things that could be done to guide us towards a place where they could stabilize down there and a lot of it is not going to be able to be done in Mexico it's going to have to be done up here when I basically don't want you have to take care of the u.s. has to take care of the drug market up here they lie market and certain things that have happened like legalization of marijuana marijuana some live some place up here have changed the Dynamics of what happens down there some for the better some bad some bad things have happened talking to my friend John Norris who was on here as well and is comparing notes seeing how a lot of drugs were crows are up here the pot is legal pot gross are up here exactly at the ones that I found in Baja 6 7 years ago and how some of that drug money made from those fields is staying in the u.s. is not being sent back so that means you have an active growing cartel presence in the US that it's US based so I think that's one of the problems that the people have is perception is that that's a Mexican problem it's a it's a u.s. Mexico problem you have border there was a problem has to root causes social economic inequality and 2 root causes social economic inequality and these civilization and corrupt government down there and a thriving illegal drug market up here and in all those two have to be solved in the combined way

coming to a point in our history where a lot of these people are dead a lot of these people are in jail a lot of these people got book deals and why does people are talking and I mean it's interesting seeing some of the stuff that is coming out now that in my time when I was active would have gotten you in a whole probably somewhere if you talked about it so there's definitely I mean like my mind was blown when I was seeing or Chapo on Netflix because of stuff that was going on in that show is fictionalized stuff that I went through myself so it's like this on Netflix now accurate was it pretty good actor parts so there's a there's a character in that show called so it does does the guy in the show conrado Sol is his name which it would nobody with people trying to figure out who that was is basically a government guy that had a deal with El Chapo and they both kind of escalating power it turns out it was Luna so this show was showing him the character Elsa which depicts Luna as a corrupt politician that was working security was working both sides and all the sudden you in it recently a few months a few weeks back they arrested the guy why all the shell was kind of protective do you think that the show had anything to do with him being arrested I mean it probably put a put the idea on the side guys two people to ask questions you know that's weird that shows actually do do that like saving surviving R.Kelly that's what got him arrested it is interesting you see a fictionalized forms of stuff that happened down there the narcos show as well as another thing and I will see you fictionalize things of how some of these powerful cartel groups kind of originated themselves infection and now that is in the public kind of domain as far as collective knowledge so people start asking questions and some of these things about all the people in power also ask questions as well it's so strange how popular become you know and it is such a popular focal point of fiction as well and it's fashion you know El Chapo's picture with a chump and yeah the shirt was on fire I really wanted that shirt you know that Conor McGregor or like War something to mimic it when on purpose when you guys in the press conference for Hatfield dos anjos did you know that he's doing it on purpose yeah that is settled nod to El Chapo I mean he's a legendary status for sure now his kid that was freed by there the the cartel down there he was wearing a skapulario which is like I don't know if you can see it in there that's an interesting get paid piece of a cultural thing from Mexico just got bodyguards head was not even these guys don't even care about him this the head head head head camera thing and there be a putting everybody out there and personally I would put everybody and zip ties and on-the-ground personally so these guys all have guns drawn and there's people inside with guns drawn at them and they realize they realize what they have now so they're like should we forcefully put them in, so how do you know that they're realizing this right is because the language through a lot of the same training that they went through and I did a lot of this type of stuff and all of them would have been in zip ties on the ground who this girl went reach out and grab their guns and put the guns down there so there's fear in these people they realize that they messed up Jesus right so that's what young people question these streaming this video live how to get sent back to the command post so when he was moving around he had one of these on this skapulario it's called like a religious Catholic iconography thing what is yours what is it from work that one like a holy death Effigy and he had that on he had his was a Santo Nino de Atocha which is like a Catholic Christ baby saying they have as soon as that picture of him when on online it was sold out all throughout Sinaloa everybody was wearing that they have to work you know they work those work think I'm free. I'm free areas areas that's the cultural thing called part of it where that's that's Anthony Shrine is right now it's probably most popular shrines in Mexico or that one because they work and then you go to the holy death runs down there and you see how how both sides both Mexican government forces and the cartel they they both been very kind of the same Saints so with that again that's a weird kind of thing they share that Faith was that picture of his truck down there Jamie you have some wacky truck now just a regular Truck Yeah 21 e bella townspeople where is how many cards do you give out I have no idea like a lot of them there's pictures of the El Chapo son gives out cars on Christmas and there's a bunch of cars there who are you like who who are you going to go towards Sam of course government patient cells there's a whole generation of lawyers a whole generation of doctors they pay for immigration procedures so hey you want to know yeah I'll pay for your immigration but okay wow so that that's that's that's how that's how you grow buy them that's kind of their cultural backing that have pop culture backing they kind of look to the Mulberry guys as influence or as inspiration you see you know insane paintings of The Godfather or Scarface and some of these safe houses with these people are right and you're like okay or do you see cartel influenced series for Netflix like there's one called Lorraine those who or which is about a with a female the cartel had the lady that that stars in that show was the one that took Sean Penn down there to mail Chapo because I know with a fan of that show well if they get to go to the terrorist designation he basically went down there to meet with a terrorist what happens in then is it retroactive I don't know I don't know he helped put eyes on on the movements of El Chapo by the Mexican Government why would El Chapo agree to do something like that so crazy though doesn't it seem crazy that he was willing to take that kind of a risk and take a photo with Sean Penn in that that actress what's her name again Bears rumors there's rumors of of a meeting that's about it I don't know anything else

or will there be a boat roll over there the bars on on on on one of the slabs how to Titanium again I have to research it basically it's a bit prior titanium. Right when you start it it's kind of hard to put it out so they made this whole on an endless wall with power Titan solar power titanium mix something like that s*** up with right now they sell these things they called bleach pens like and then there's busy than for tactical applications of these pens the sticks that you starting you can burn chains open so I got wasn't so basically I get over again of that is what they're using you know and some of these places and I mean wallets are making it and speaking to some of the border patrol agents that that I that I know it doesn't job at the start slowing people down split up till there's not an overflow people come it's not like 92 Mexico came to a deal and they said nothing that they were going to do there was a North American agreement there was like they were trying to do that with United States and set up a single currency that would be great if us industry moved in there with him will Columbia did a great job and eradicating all the the problems with narcotics I think it is it is not all of them because it still having a gorilla gorilla group down there that recently the farc that went and Dusty and then they got active again but they're still there still a lot of cocaine being produced are no well they were facing a few criminal groups large ones and Mexico is facing a lot of them that and they have the US right next door that is pumping money into the issue directly dinner after flying no and son a long plane flight to short Waterhouse on Mexico's a pretty big country I think people kind of miss that also it's a pretty big country big country do you remember when there was a CIA drug plane that had like several tons of cocaine and crashed because the Mexican Government wouldn't let them land and refuel yeah I mean all sorts of conspiracy theories around all that was a real CIA drug plane that had been to Guantanamo Bay at least twice like it was documented and they for whatever reason I mean I was flying back a lot of coke will do that play the CIA brings and Drug people who work for the CIA realized they can make a shitload of money if they bring in drugs and they they pass that money around and they work it out but the CIA itself does not bringing drugs custom Customs and Border Protection agent agency security is an agency has the most corruption charges as far as all law enforcement agencies is there really a federal federal charges border of course that's that's why I write it doesn't make sense and you know I need it maybe was a CIA guy that said how can make some money through your Tom Cruise movie that was about drugs with Cowboys that work for the CIA and different agencies like look over there or just a little more there like what what's going on and he would see like some sort of okay what's going on they can do anything yeah I mean they have their own cell phone that works in some places yeah we good if I knew but there's also like a whole cities with hidden cameras that are cartel control to see who kills in and out of the of the townspeople how like so late Mexican government is working with uniformed agents patrolling and pickup trucks in the back and these guys are living in 2025 and using drones to do to surveil the Patrols in the area and they're using their own cell phone network so they don't have to worry worry about government tapping into their Communications the utilizing encrypted phone technology that is available now commercially throughout the world to get around some of these things in there and they're working their probably involving and how they work you know I remember the first time I was working in in Baja and all the cartel guys would we move around and Suburbans dressed like federal agents and they would look exactly like the legit federal agents or they were federal agents with the cartel guys so you would and you guys immediately saying I was now we're using taxi cabs to move around and different types of cars and we're going to paint the other Vans like a taxi vans or we can move around in and ambulances so they change their tactics so we were always after these convoys of Suburbans and now they're doing something else so that's how they evolved you're trying to go after it with a hammer in mosquitoes furthest you can get away from all the way up for one of the articles I wrote and he asked him directly like what do you think about the border wall and in the immigration policies of this current Administration is a lot good for business you know it makes it seem like it's hot put people in in the United States so I mean that was pretty hard like how you do it I fly them to Canada they walk down what we talked about it before that the border the United States is a wall to Mexico the border from United States to Canada is it giant clearing that's a hundred yards wide it's real clear you can see it. It's almost like they make it easy hey just come right here I mean you hear you hear numbers from $8,000 to $15,000 depending on who you are and what you're trying to do how you're trying to get up here as far as being smuggled up and he's like past Mexican passport get a Mexican passport if you're Mexican get you a Mexican passport I will put $2,000 in an account somewhere so if they want to verify if you're financially solvent they will check that and just like I can just walk down and that's what we did pass Mexican passport get a Mexican passport if you're Mexican will get you a Mexican passport I will put $2,000 in an account somewhere so if they want to verify if you're financially solvent they will check that and just fly to Canada and just walk down and that's what we do

Cecilia on this like if they can continue to grow I mean it's is really is it possible that we're looking at a country that might be completely run and overrun by criminal organizations and Drug seller some parts of it are already so you what I think is going to happen is you'll see escalations a clear sign or clear group that is like a like a sign of things to come is is a new general cartel the new generation cartel is a cartel that was used to be called Lowe's and Lapis Edna's it was basically an armed enforcing group that Tina Lockhart Old Maid to go after their main Rivals this at those which were originally members of special Mexican special forces that said you know what we're going to be cartel guys so they whole sordid history was formed formed cuz I'm right and their whole kind of play was that we're going to be against extortion against abducting people against affecting the community we can enforce the law in our communities but we're also going to drive through here right but that yeah that's kind of their thing so you see this group started kind of growing in the region and right now it's pretty big it's why I wasn't feeling well cocktails for his power and and and reach but the way they do their things as militarized is very militaristic and kind of paramilitary kind of reminds me a little bit about of the like the the farc groups in Colombia hearts and minds they go into the communities that community policing in the area that you originally said you know where where the government wants to find drugs here in the region we agree with their fight but we are also going to fight against these guys that are affecting Community as well and they have like groups of people they have they have training camps don't know if mail is heuristic training camps where they recruit people take him there and they're being trained and then guerrilla warfare when shooting and apparently there's some SF guys from the US that buys them so that's it that's the next India vs collation of simple ragtag group of cartel guys enforcing region to an actual cohesive paramilitary group now find it by 4 control not just the lip of the drug routes but also the populist and confidence about his ass in them so we could turn to let it go at some point it just seems like it's the Genie's out of the bottle is it I mean it is I mean it isn't a lot of ways and going after it just as a Drug Enforcement issue is not know it's so much bigger than that cultural economic some of these kids cartel Soldier kids are 12 years old polygons and now they don't have not they don't have option to know life isn't it sad or nothing bro it's either awesome life or short awesome life poverty short awesome life extreme poverty so that's one component to it another component is systemic corruption as a society from who knows when you know it's always been a thing in Mexico people that grew up down there to get stopped at a red light and you're like can I pay the fine here you know people that are be aware this show me a picture of the paperwork you fly that thing in there I know that's you that's part of the culture that's affecting a lot of things as well know people don't pay attention to the small rules so the big rules don't matter and just being next to the largest drug Market on the planet you know and having money Firearms rounds going down and Fentanyl that is it being fabricated Mexico now and some of the Chinese fentanyl making its way through US Cutter feeling the voids that some of the the drug Marquis has right now so they're making fentanyl laced fake fentanyl laced pills they're going to be there being towed into us and Fentanyl fentanyl laced heroin so that's why they're going towards now he's that's why you see this epidemic up here and a lot of things are additionally kind of focused on pot before it was legalized in a lot of reading is up here now is Parowan Federal so it's actually kind of accelerated the production of the harmful and dangerous drugs in some ways yes I mean they had to find another you know it was it went pot meth and Fentanyl laced heroin or fentanyl laced pills in the problem with the idea of legalization is that if you try to be the person who says Hey folks we need to legalize drugs here in America because we've got this problem with the cartel politically that suicide even though it's probably right it is I think it is I think it is very right it's one of those things that's so counter-intuitive that most people are going to go you're crazy going to make my kid hooked on drugs while say that site I was fighting the drug where I literally a drug war veteran and if I had a white flag I would hand it over to you you know it's like it's a useless fight I got to destroy pot feels realistically thinking about all the Akron OH the blood I'm like how to grow back when it is now it is it is a fruitless fight fentanyl heroin may be different drugs fentanyl particulars but a lot of that Fenton was coming from China or setting up Laboratories in Mexico so till it's the Chinese u.s. problem as well God damn what can be done other than the legalization what can be done mean how does unless the United States literally goes to war with the Mexican cartels and you made a face talk about that I mean I'd say designation is going to happen is going to happen I mean again we just saw the murderer the massacre of Mexican dual citizenship people kids women it's not uncommon for that to happen to Mexican Nationals it's pretty uncommon for that to happen to America Nationals down there and that woke up woke up a bunch of people you know and now he's another recent murder of another American National no kid with his parents down there help people will say don't go down in Mexico some of these people you know live down there have family down there have to be down there people have to wake up on this side to realize his problem is not going to get any better this problem is not just a Mexican problem with the u.s. Mexican problem and you know you'll get to a point where it's going to be I think in my life there's going to be some sort of aren't intimate intervention in Mexico at some point really so you anticipate almost like in a Civil War I think something's going to happen in Mexico is going to why's it so much that the US won't have another option but to put boots on the ground probably that's I think that's that's where we're headed the problem and again another problem is that the government is part of the problem so you can go down there and negotiate with this government but six years later going to be another government and you got to renegotiate with them and also use you Palm grease yeah and then you put all your faith in the military and the military gets compromised faith in you in the Mexican Marines and then they get compromised and I will be who you have so it's a stomach don't tell that to Trump excuse we can't count on that we're going in

reading this book about Kit Carson and the old west and when the United States conquered parts of California and and took over parts of California and in the west from Mexico and it was crazy back then and there they were talking about the other chaos in The Mexican government in the Mexican military back then the 18th you have to go through War college and there's different ways to go about it but there's a lot of hereditary stuff going on already Terry like hey my dad was General okay on the Army down there has a monopoly over selling guns only one gun store in all of Mexico and it's run by them the army interpreter of firearm if you live in the Yucatan Mexico City to get a gun which makes which basically makes the only options buying a gun on the black market or or flying over there and spending all his money so there's a now it's a class so lonely only people that can afford the plane ticket and to do as a process are the ones that can have guns so it took that's class you know class is involved in there as well what kind of beehive with guns vs United States Second Amendment is it self-defense but a lot of amendments and a lot of corrupt governments and there's a team and maybe not a good idea to have this year so progressively become more and more strict certain rounds aren't allowed certain calibers aren't allowed and plainly the sale of firearms in all of Mexico is just relegated to a single gun store in Mexico City so you can't carry them without without a permit and to get a permit you have to know somebody who knows the Presidente or general something what about all those gentlemen we saw that video just walking in front of those government agents with with guns why didn't they arrest them they should have they should have just like there's a wild guy old older gentleman son try to get abducted something like that he had this old Mauser rifle and he shot dead one of the guys I was chasing him just running with him he was arrested for the the the firearm possession it and the house or is what Lee Harvey Oswald supposedly used on JFK that's an old ass gun while there's a lot of weird or just a weird exotic firearms down there a lot of people called Mexico the USS garage and likely like garages you just find weird stuff down there from the Old World War II pistols and explosives to new stuff like there's a friend of mine that works with the government down there told me that they found a bunch of parts for a minigun in a can a house somewhere down there what's a minigun it's basically a remember that remember that. Terminator 2 Terminator 2

but that there's there's a few people like way back when I first started how things were pretty relaxed when I got in and we would get urine tested for cocaine and whatever but some people would go to Oaxaca and go on mushroom trips like some of the better in guys that would go through whatever there's a there's a place in Oaxaca and in Veracruz where they go up into the hills and get some of those that they call him the nadas which is like basically going to midnight and they would smoke shrooms and take them I never come back family fix someone that was like the story it was pretty good for them to work things out with John Hopkins is there doing studies on psilocybin and there's been studies done psilocybin with troops with PTSD and that they they've found out that it does help them MDMA is another one that map's is doing all these studies with MDMA and troops coming back with PTSD I mean a lot of that stuff has been around for a long time now they're like members of The Doors went down there to Selena magazine article from the 1950s that was one of the first really mainstream to find who wrote that is life article in the 50s I'm trying to remember the guys name Wasserman Wasserman I feel like it's Wasserman who was one of the very first guys to sort of mainstream psilocybin mushrooms and it was because Mexican tribal cultures Maria Sabina was like the end of the figurehead of that movement she was a lady that would do these mushroom trips up there for people that would come up in the hillside with her she would take her own Gordon Wasson Gordon Wasson Davina left a hole Legacy of that in Mexico and she had a lot of people that learn from her and a lot of these people are all over Mexico doing no healing and spiritual work has some you have some Freedom like my friend Ed Ed clay he had a ibogaine retreat down there where people would go to get off of pills cuz it's one of the is one of the best ways to get off of particular opiates that there's no there's no enforcement is hard in the country like Mexico so you're not going to have people trying to go inspect things and Reilly's part so that's why there's a lot of places like that you still to this day you can go to place where Hawkeye work technically that's illegal but they go on the hillsides kind of like decriminalize a lot of different things down there for personal use so the quantities now matter more than they used to do something get caught with a certain quantity of something and that means you're selling it as some of those how many grams of mushrooms can you have but everybody has a different opinion on what I mean I remember the first time I saw like a box a box of them in one of these and later on I figured out what they were and you know that there are thing everything in Mexico there's a big thing in Mexico become a big thing Yeah Yeahs down there as a as a doorway element like there's a isn't Rachel where they do it where they bury you alive in the shallow grave with a bell on it and they give you a bunch of mushroom so you can think about things in there and if you forgot your ring that Bell and God how you breathe basically fine but it's it's like part of the debt called down there they do that to combination wonderful into it but it's it's the mushrooms like they take mushrooms is a bunch of weird stuff I go down there as far as the use of psychotropics like mushrooms and other is a bunch of weird stuff I go down there as far as the other than the use of psychotropics like mushrooms and other things to put people in that mindset of down accepting a very specific day of your truth out there

are you hopeful as well work out okay when you mean this okay like we're all talking about become better a better situation the future or is it going to get more and more crazy is the United States going to become like Mexico as I got a global scale weight where we're going to need each other before before you know before too long and I hope you guys going to New Mexico and Mexico sending me you was going to be some sort of we're going to have to come together probably give me like a global war yes we're going to bring jobs back and on this whole thing it's a lot of factories American factories and businesses moved out of Mexico standing 43 dimensional chess you know there's a lot of moving pieces and then end people can say whatever they want about the United States American companies in Mexico are pretty good companies and they're pretty good with their workers and their their Graphics are pretty good lot better than China lot better than China you know and it's a it's a different it's a different game and it's you see DVDs influences go into Mexico because they realize in Mexico is valuable place for them to have influence in front of American culture everybody wants all these manufacturers Ford Mercedes they're all coming out electric cars Porsches going to let your car now I mean that's a big deal and that's right next door all right so I think it again I think as a second largest consumer of American Products in the world is Mexico second largest so economies are intertwined they have a lot of America's living down there is a lot of Blood Ties to within the country of course Americans don't want America to be Mexico and of course a lot of Mexicans want Mexico to be more like America the opportunities and in making Mexico a better place yeah I need to make some make Mexico great again shirts and yeah I'm get to get in fights at the airport is Canada where you know like Canada is f****** wonderful you go over there this amazing cities it's it's great it's safe it's clean if we can make Mexico like that then we have you know it would be better for everybody including Mexico including United States everybody post 911 at the border you could see how businesses started failing in San Diego because it became harder to cross the border so interested there's their symbiotic relationship racism some of the dumbest racism in all of the United States but particularly for California and so stupid I got to see how I can place it like Fallbrook California where the capital of the world cutting down all the avocado trees because there's a drought and there's nobody to pick him no one to pick up people coming up and it's harder to maintain like don't keep they hired illegals and there's holyshit to organize start working on border control like I'm one of those people that believe in borders but I also believe if you are a hard-working person who wants to do better you should have an opportunity in that and I don't think a lot of people particularly poor people that aren't very well-educated there's not an opportunity there's no reason for them to be over the applied for United States citizenship well there's will why you want to come here why I want to come before opportunity what do you have to offer you know I'm a hard worker who has a lot of hard workers me that's really the attitude yeah you know I think we all just got me me I got lucky I got lucky my grandparents came here that got lucky that's all it is just luck and to deny that into deny these other people this opportunity this just got to be a way to filter out bad people media technology fat people better yeah I went through a bunch of questioning okay my background and got a lot of questions for what I usually do right I got to look and it's fine he didn't do anything wrong so like I'm here is fine but you know there's a lot of people like the Luna Luna was here on a green card and he got nabbed when he went to process his full citizenship so he was here for a long time you should just stuck with a green card I would have kept quiet for a later that's why he's in jail right he lied to him to an immigration agent and that's one of the charges he has on a wow so it's pretty interesting that people like him have been a long time of your things like open Secrets in and yeah I mean again not all not all Mexicans Good Guys in 09 people come up here I got some of the people that that I've met out here that are kind of on the same boat as I am at fresh in the country you know doing manual labor construction working Kentucky I met a bunch of guys that were working on the Kentucky Derby or the horse stalls around them all Mexicans get smell of me other party is the good food is usually he could smell you know where they are doing manual labor construction working at Kentucky I met a bunch of guys that were working on the Kentucky Derby or the horse stalls around them all Mexicans get smell of Mila tortillas the good food is usually he can smell you know where they are

when you first started working on the Mexican Government with this they wasn't like it is now it was so I went to work for state government down in Mexico in Baja specifically and this was 2000 for like right before the start of the official start of the kickoff of the drug war as as as a coffee cake but there was that the official start was one Felipe Calderon came into office that you know what gloves off going to go after they organized crime right we going to send the military into into this onto the streets and they're going to head up spearhead operations against the cartels but before that things were happening still Sinaloa cartel the swelling and there was a rift between the Sinaloa cartel in Tijuana cartel and fragmentation cartel heads were being killed one Kartel tempted to three all this fragmentation and then they basically militarize the War on Drugs with Calderon came in mail try the War on Drugs immediately you start seeing that drug drug enforcement efforts were being put towards a single or a group of cartel groups but not the month but not the major one like Sinaloa cartel to start seeing how they were basically taking sides they're breaking up the competition that's what gather from the making it look like progress and also El Chapo has been built up until this mythical figure like he was the head of the Sinaloa cartel is a main guy that's not true at all he was an operator for the Sinaloa cartel but not the main operator you know there's different see reason and NN about who is actually who's actually in charge of the brain is behind the whole operation when you say Sinaloa cartel it's not one group it several the Federation of several criminal groups surprises uniting and working in conjunction to put drugs into the into the United States or one of the things I do is put a lot of things but that's one of the things they do so certain people there's a lot of people out there that which is El Chapo's Compadre who still out there is the actual head of the Sinaloa cartel has been since the start that you see how some of these people become celebrities and as soon as somebody becomes a celebrity like El Chapo Hulu few times in order you know pretty interesting situations that situation now the government has a celebrity that can go after they can point that gun so that you saw a lot of that around him as far as him being the head of whatever group or operation was but at the same time you start seeing you know the DEA and the US government can decorating and putting all these Awards on a guy like Luna who was the guy that got arrested recently it was head of security down to Mexico and all the sudden he's now he's not yelling he was recognized by the US government is being a player for the good guys and now he's arrested please start seeing all these different interests different political political kind of movement around the drug war and what that turn into and you know what you don't know what to think right each us Administration has changed the way they do things when it comes to the drug war and also benefits certain groups down there so you know who knows realistic Rock 2002-2003 somewhere around that time and there was no concern as a different time 17 years ago that's so recent in terms of like human history yeah that a region changes so radically so quickly while it's it's it's there's a lot of things happening you know there's a lot of interest in China has a lot of interest in Mexico and you go back and you see something like they cook the whole group do in the Michoacan are you fighting back against the cartels the the whole it was like series like a documentary on them the the out to the fence as they would they would call basically like Vigilantes ribs and then you later on you realize that they were all fighting for basically protecting or Kink or working around security for illegal Chinese or Meijer mining in the area yeah it was all about the Chinese or mining iron ore mining illegal Chinese or my children Chinese or minors they just made a deal and then we can get it on it so let's are all these guys and protecting our communities but they were not all of them but there was a lot of shady stuff going on the region and when it comes to that now you see things like that stuff is going on in Sonora and there's a lot of lithium there that's pretty valuable thing you know Nora is a place that a lot Hunter's go yeah Sonora has he's big hunting ranches and it's like it's famous for giant mule deer yeah yeah yeah I've been up out there hunting myself and it's a it's a beautiful but the beautiful are part of Mexico but that seems like a sketchy spot to venturing into it's perfect because it's because a rule so there's nobody around down there so little hunting I mean that my recommendation is sap out of don't don't take it down there to f****** you go and we do have the largest population of American citizens living outside of the country in Mexico for some reason freedom but but there's there's a I get the I get to draw you know what some of these communities down there pretty safe but some aren't you know if they're safe until they're not safe and safe until they until they all the sudden you're in the middle of a someplace I just going to be the speed at which I think is something along the lines of what happened to some of these Mormon communities down there you know you're on you're you're in the middle of your community and your movements are in the middle of our until they all the sudden you're in the middle of a someplace I was going to be the speed at which I think is something along the lines of what happened to some of these Mormon communities down there now you're on your you're in the middle of your community and your movements are in the middle of our route can you please get out of the way

I started my immigration process when he got elected oh no it's it's it's been a trip how does that work like if you are Mexican born citizen and you want to become a United States citizen and obviously it's very difficult it so married to an American have an American kid that's how I went through the process myself and you know I got a green card the the thing is when he got elected everybody said you know what maybe our time to get a green card going to get be less and less so let's all try and get one so what would take normally six months to two years oh wow so those two year to can't leave the country so if you what happens to people that are illegal that's what's f***** up about it right so there's people that came over here illegally 20-30 years ago and they've done no crimes they've been an integral part of society they've had great live they can't pay taxes they can't vote they have to live under cover their stupid they're there and they do provide and they pay taxes to other but they're not paying taxes but if you made them citizens you would make money illegals and they will be here until they die it legally and we know they're here like how about work with what you've got lucky Verde do you do when your best to stop the Border traffic great fantastic but listen lose forget about the past these people are here they're here and they're part of our community like how you how you going to deny them citizenship to the day they die and they're still here legal immigration through is hard enough it's it was a hard process it's it's it's it's a difficult process and you speak fluent English yes that's another thing people in the line with me you know that did not speak a lick of English but they were from a country that had a quota I have friends from Canada that come over here and try to come sit as soon as I stop f****** grind don't get me wrong I love this country I bet I'm new here and I like what I see I don't like where it's going in some places what don't you like I don't like I mean I left my country because I couldn't defend myself from the bad people out there who the Second Amendment second and then it's a beautiful thing you have no idea how beautiful that Stella you don't have an option to have it that's one thing I like to eat opportunities this country provides I've had a lot of opportunity I would never get anywhere else I like to you got you work and work you the work input in matters here I like I like how was segmented indifferently to go to Tennessee and you meet people out there and they're great people you know there's some real people have preconceived notions of what some of the countries are but I've loved it and then you go to California and you meet people we're on the same boat as I was and their forgot completely when Mexico is and they're completely American eyes and they're completely against you as a new person here and 3rd Generation Mexicans the worst enemy of a Mexican is another Mexican That's a classic. can being on your show the first time was from Latinos is specifically Mexican Latino what was the negativity protested the Caravans going through Tijuana and wrecking their city that was beauty isn't that extreme to the right or conservative Viewpoint that apparently you have a fact yeah you got to talk about it when you're not set you did make a value judgment saying that those people coming through or protested by Mexicans need to go back to wherever f****** rice Patty they come from you didn't say any of that this is what I saw when I went and talked about it for a while when I was happening Byron Caravan goes through obviously a lot of those guys were gang members a lot of them or not all of them a lot of the more covering tattoos is pretty hot out wearing all the goodies cameras came by the females of the children won't be in putting front parade in front of medium to anybody was there you could see the circus is going on and then a lot of a lot of the camp and catmints they would they would be no later than comments with Needle on the outside one of them was next to a school that got to be closed down a niece of mine had a kid in there and the school had to be closed down because it was next one is in Captain it would protest and close down Lanes those people that live in TJ some of them are Americans and the commute so that's their livelihood people that work on terrorism and TJ white with hood went down so the fact that these people came and disrupted all that whole thing and then you would see these a Californian hippie American guys come down there and do puppet shows for these people and hand over a donation to the phone with canned food blankets and stuff like that and then you would see these guys go to the back door and saw that stuff in the back and just get money for whatever they were going to use the money for it we would like view online because I started posting some of the stuff online for people this is what's happening and that was like no no no you going against the narrative narrative the narrative in the people that are talking about you go and gets a narrative really no idea they don't care about the truth that's what's crazy the absolute that's it I'm like so simple I can't even vote up here yet you don't have to be a full citizen to go out so that it doesn't even factor in the goddamn it's so crazy what else about the youth in America like I have I have a weird mental comparison of seeing my nephew's down there playing soccer going out and getting the trouble going to the cockfights which is probably pretty dangerous but they go to Cock fights off of that and I'll see kids up here on their tablet you know playing games video games getting offended by something you know down there you can still punch somebody in the face if they get into your face in school I'll be allowed to do that dismiss you was probably going to get out of school or something and you see this weird specification of American children safe spaces say that that's Politically Incorrect I saw the California gun laws change like I got to see the weird California compliant rifles come to the range and you have to push a button to release the magazine and make it more difficult to reload yeah so strange if if if if yeah the idea that you just can't handicap law-abiding citizen citizens and that's going to somehow or another save lives in mass shootings and here's the other thing about you and I'm waiting for this to happen but it's just not happening there never addressing people using psychotropic drugs they're not if they don't address that although School shooters all those Mass Shooters are all on drugs they're on some kind of Psych drugs and there is no mention of it whatsoever like what what is I actually think it's all about the guns and the guns are a huge issue mean the fact that these people who are f***** up and yeah they that they have access and they can get access to these guns and they can wind up shooting people yes that is one issue Securities another issue there's another issue and that's mental health in this that. Tumi's the biggest one because without the mental health issue you don't get Mass shooters Mexico cartel guys going to a town shoot up a bunch of people and it's pretty horrible but on the Mexican side we only had one school shooting that like a notable one and it was mentally okay Google's being prescribed to children in Mexico is it similar not at all. I mean we were so behind and some and some incense as far as you know I don't know about PTSD so I came up here or TBI like I had like what you're describing that you're feeling sounds like TV I really yeah you should get yourself checked out and then you go down there like I think would happen and people look at you now and it's just a few days off take a few shots of tequila fine it back at it well that's the old school mentality World War New Mexico looks like snot snot at anywhere as far as medicating it kids being diagnosed with things like office with autism is a thing that I only recently kind of heard about 15 years ago in Mexico in Mexico and what about anti-psychotic drugs and always different drugs that you're seeing that these a lot of the School shooters were taking in Mexico is not a thing you know people think that it's pretty primitive in Mexico I can get any drug if you pay somebody off Eastside psychiatric level they're they're not they're not available down there were people that you can go to the new like what do you want this is not available so it's not a part of the culture now it's such a huge part of the culture that people want people are constantly wanted to take something to take the edge off or take something so they can feel better take something to you know to just to just to alter their state and the doctor prescribed to them constantly wanted to take something to take the edge off or take something so they can feel better take something to you know to just a disa alter their state and the doctor prescribed to them and then the pharmaceutical drug companies or just raking in the cash from it so it just becomes a part of reality

complaining about Will Smith Will Smith being the genie for some reason has complain about everything although I do have to tell you I want to see Frozen the musical cuz I have daughter first of all it was wonderful Productions excellents really good I mean I actually enjoyed the the music was very good however it's about people that live in the Arctic or they did live in Nordic country right right there all these blind people wipe well the dads black in the in the musical and the moms Chinese okay and then the dad black in the moms Chinese which is great they're great actor cigars why do they have kids for carrying the kid one of the kids is Chinese and one of the kids as white in the kids grow up and they're both White I am a girl I don't know if she was a young Asian girl that she may be became a white girl did she make pee pee in your Coke that's how you know she was great at her job I mean she had Perfect singing and everything was beautiful to predict that they were very talented but they're requiring you to make this leap like now you have to know that this is now a different ethnicity is a different person pretend does the same person like in most movies where you have someone plays a young version of the guy it looks like the guy it's not like you have a young Chinese guy who becomes Clint Eastwood you like hey what are you doing here like what are we making young Clint Eastwood he's supposed to look like he could be right young Clint Eastwood they were there was a video game that takes place in middle age is very possibly maybe you guys know the name of the blanking on it and they were they were black people there because everyone on Twitter and Facebook still thinks they're in the sixties and this is their personal march on Selma and they're fighting against segregation like this isn't segregation in history if you want to watch make a movie about Egypt right you should use people that look or through Egyptian yes if you decide you're going to just have only white people from Norway play Egyptian people going to want to kick your ass and that's kind of the same thing you're f****** with reality nothing with frozen but it was a movie for any historical depiction a thing where you like depicting an actual time and if you want to have like like the wild west when do movie about the wild west you have to have European settlers give do some African slaves there and you have to have a lot of lot of Native Americans you can't just decide we're going to do a film about the wild west but everyone's black all black crew all black writers black power going to make it happen if you can't if you did that movie people are there slaves yes black people have slaves yes my favorite comic book series of all time was Legion of super-heroes right and I just takes place in the 13th century and I was just 30 Century thousand years from now it's just they're just keep rebooting it number two just came out and I was looking at the cover you have chameleon boy who's orange with any Brainiac 5 was green and a living computer Shadow lass is blue but they had to make Lightning Lad black for some reason now it's just like these are 4T diapers some of them don't even have a body but they have to change the race just to it it's just really kind of a I guess the thing you do any stay woke but in retrospect it's going to be embarrassing cuz you not know about staying with my I'm very familiar you stay woke at all I never sleep do you ever think about like trying to be like a little more woke and people like it better everything pride of America this sounds like it's such a strange time man but it's always a strange time I didn't know it makes it good is that this can be called out and discussed and be like look this isn't about race or races and why is it important to you that this Chinese girl in Frozen grows up to become white look just like it was a very good music enjoy more because I saw the Brokenness upper Buckeye saw they did some work Shadows like I see what you're doing not to say that the Asian lady wasn't fantastic as a mom she was there the black guy's a dad he was amazing but you want me to believe that a block I made it with an Asian lady they made two blond kids one of them started out Asian and then became European later we don't know if that we don't know that he was their dad you know she's hauling around know she's not around because if she is she's holding her out with a goddamn chameleon to the child morphs as it gets older about A different race of the same person the same character that but the point is it's still not going to happen to a black guy in a Chinese person I can have a white kid so maybe the Chinese lady had sex with a white guy people think Corporate America is very conservative but they're the first ones to be pushing the stuff out of the Rosen Times Square New York pride month rainbow Flags everywhere and I said only Corporate America can make starting perversion look boring and I said only Corporate America can make sodomy in perversion look boring

remember when they had that 11 year old drag queen The Desmond is amazing and dancing around like it was some this what a what a great thing what a great thing was living his truth is so brave I imagine if there's a 12 year old that was just sworn to be a hoe like I am a hoe I'm just going to wear fishnets right and high heels and I'm going to stick my ass out of a dancer powder around a lot of money makeup on how different is that while he's also on the Spectrum I think I'm 99% sure so the Ennis photos him with naked drag queens by with chachki and it's just like look this is something for well here's the question to do you think guys hooked up with him know if not I'll let you want to talk about this because this is a rabbit hole that I've been on recently kids getting f***** because I had a friend in October who sat me down and he's like look I was raped as a kid for a long time and he only realized cuz of the show because he was watching when Jake The Snake was on the show my friend Matt and Jake was saying he's like all the s*** this is me and this really f***** him up for a while and if he's talking to me and he goes I can't even be mad because it was another older kid and I know he was getting it worse than me and the thing that's really f*****-up is he to know how is going to react right so used to be mommy's sleepy no mommy was a drunk right and until Betty Ford the first lady came out as an alcoholic now people like to view someone's doesn't my mom's an alcoholic you like all that sucks but the right if someone's if Daddy had a temper no Daddy was abusive but we know what to do with that information and when I started talking about us on Twitter and elsewhere that this is really common and because all of us do not think of kids in this way we want to think about it so sick they're the ones who have to deal with this nightmare and it's really really ever want to talk to know someone and I told another fun when he's like yeah my sister I just found out was being molested by her grandfather whole life and then it's like she's the one who's acting out and was yelling at her for acting out so Joe II name one of the things I want to talk about is this is something that has to change these people can't be the ones who have to worry that if they tell me your friend that we're going to look at them like all your free gotten what to do with this cuz they're the ones who are suffering for a very long time and I think that keeps people from speaking out cuz the fear of being I did it almost rather keep it to themselves and not other people know that they've been molested they don't want to for you to be uncomfortable around them and there was a girl in my high school she told another girl that her brother been raping her for years and she went to Mom and Mom says you know he's talking about that can't happen but this happens all the time and we don't have the space to discuss it so I've just been kind of talking about this a lot more encouraging people to talk about this a lot more because it's really really a lot of people are suffering because of this and what do you do here's the big question something like that what do you do to help the person who's been molested and what you do what you do to the person who molest someone while I the person who did it I have it I don't know but I think what happens is just like with gay rights right the more people who come out and talk about it the more easy it is for someone to call someone else if you like this happen to me you know what I'm going through let's have this conversation have you seen this very strange Trend that's rare but common enough and actually predicted where people are talking about people that are pedophiles that it's some sort of a sexual inclination that we should have sympathy for them because it's no. It's nothing to ask for it's no different than being born gay or being it is just a thing where you're born in a way that is there any science to back that up at all I would perfectly happy to believe that people can be born at this inclination I don't care if I'm bored I want to murder people will I better figure out how to deal with this and I think that's a complete in many ways red herring if it's something that they can't change that doesn't that makes it worse that means you have no reason to even there like any better you're going to be what were the resources are so they're going to be disproportionate in those fields where you are interacting with your targets so that's what makes it so sick it's not like you have these ideas okay fine you can have whatever it is you want you were laying those background work you know what to pray on these kids and you know what you're doing it's on again I don't know what to do with this information but I do know that this is really really bad and you know people talk about this is the truest form of being a v in the sickest part about it to me is how many of these kids go on to molest other kids yeah it's it's like a like a disease like they're caught a disease I told Matt that he there's two ways right they go on I told Matt you should consider reaching out to this guy and tell him you forgive him because he's like because it's possible that you're like 10 or 11 you're doing this you grow up and you realize what you've done and what this means and I don't know how you can live with yourself while we have to hope and assume that it ended with that but he didn't continue doing it as we get older and right with the same age child and then you think and what happened talk with divorce cuz it's shameful I didn't understand what they were saying but whatever and I was like oh that's just crazy uncle Nick keeping away from the kids is like that's not a thing Uncle Nick you were talking just a bunch of people that really cared about each other we're good friends I think we should kill pedophiles should be like f*** yeah but most people say yes but in public and public discourse I sang to kill pedophiles like okay because a problem sometimes people get accused of being pedophiles they're not like remember that that there was a daycare school and these kids are actually being coached into saying all because these kids have made stuff up another people would like coached him into making more stuff off and then everything got crazier and crazier what was the name of that it was it was a very famous case with them and they made a documentary about it because it shows almost like there's a mass hysteria that can go on especially talking about something that's a particularly heinous right like the abduction and or the rape of children rather because we're also scared of that being real that will pay attention as much as possible so they have these new stories they have all these different things that are attached to this and then probing to keep asking question and then it accelerating growth and cuz it's a focal point of attention but people start lying but we're also so scared so we don't want to think it could be true and we don't want to think either one tried true write someone would molest kids or the kids would be coached in the lion but I must have a more horrible I'm much more concerned with people who are dealing with this and how they can get that so I think that yes I just have a friend and Anakin everyone I've talked to know someone one degree of separation and I'm just saying for the people who had gone through this just like not listening to the show died this way I told him my experience with people come to univ on Broadway don't tell them what you think they want to hear beat as a vulnerable to return so I said to him I don't matter I don't care I don't think of you any differently I don't think you're damaged I don't think you're free I think it's awful I can't relate to this at all I know you're glad I can't relate to this at all return so I said to him I don't matter I don't care I don't think of you any differently I don't think you're damaged I don't think you're a freak I think it's awful I can't relate to this at all I know you're glad I can't relate to this at all and I think it's great that you want me to kind of talk about this that stop someone from blowing your brains out

that one video of that one to you went undercover with antifa and was disturbing to me because first of all you look like you slide right in like a glove buddy likes just stolen his clothes because it was almost identical so many things about slender people there's something there right like what is it about slender people that are almost always left-wing weakness you think so sorry I fell by their posture and the body size the guy walks in your body says it's probably a friendly now I get made every time I go out after eating Vermont kind of games I mean I was a throwaway this one took months of planning is reg to especially to infiltrating the back end of antifa pedophile he's currently out of wasn't a practicing pedophile right then like what that was like those articles salon.com I'm not a monster to deal with us Village we shoot you we can't take that risk Message Board is is pseudonyms his his usernames and coded language about grooming dreaming with your Groom & Chaos Online article on it and then Salon release another article where he responded and didn't cause up on it was like my week in the right-wing hate sphere and the red on Salon like we're the bad guys because we found out that you're grooming children Chowan school with an active pedophile let's move on now we're not going to do it there's no more convincing to be done here to read was only 5 in reg was one infiltrated allow the antifa groups you know he's either that's not his real name but he has so many guys just brilliant so he been doing research on the backend upon request and was so good so we all this research we knew who these people were we kind of knew what they were planning with Ben Shapiro going into Utah as a matter of fact we were going to go to Berkeley right before that but then last minute we found out that they were let me know where they need we were on their cryptic apps where they would text you so these apps that you would download like I don't know if we're allowed to say that the FBI you how do you make contact with these people we were part of their Facebook ripping so we found out where they wanted to meet when when where and we showed the campus and I walk in as Jason and above person do to the organization they will be involved flughand Rebecca could have been on the radar now where is she gives me the cryptic messaging app because there's a wedding band in the air with his wedding band iPhone 7 and is brought on the side gives me the app and says we'll see you tomorrow so I say okay see you then it gives me a communication to do roll call we've got Jason in the group Firebird take a photo of your screen issues a physical camera didn't seem to work out this kink in the plans we go back to the hotel and get ready for the next day and show up on campus were there supposed to to to meet up and get together and they were openly gay they were they were offering to give you a gun not a first first just handed you a prison shank and told you had a sawed-off shotgun you can't go back in there so once he was in it weird to Raynham back there's a little little couple times thomahawk show up sharp pointy and blues like a school that screwdriver to AK is coming okay so here it is okay so what they're doing is first of all that person ever stabbed anybody in a f****** life right so these are dorks and what they're doing is they're deciding now they're going to take action and they're going to enlist the aid of a bunch of other people did you think at that point in time but maybe these people are looking for suckers that are willing to do fuckedupshit for them Knoxville Library sweetheart there honey bee being unemployed I can just show up on time anywhere I want and there is a silver lining I guess eating all black rattles everything in it just looks like a really sad Social Club so I can get there sit down for a bit in like 3 minutes in you start telling me these are passing me stuff telling me that everything you just saw and I'm thinking oh my Lord this is not I need to get out I need to get out I need to get out shut off my phone taking pictures I don't understand I sit in there and I just left I think who's on my podcast to put together weeks later after we had acknowledged it but he put together small little brief Montage of our video that took place on August little profile event for ABC a local Fox or something me do Instagram videos with five funeral following is Isabelle heart go up on a string what is widest possible at a rhyme going down the street with her protest wig with bangs two weeks after and if the the undercurrent of accepted the fact that there's a lot of bottoms meetups in Washington Herald or something into the gloss blocks like this is not it's not a wise group this is not this is not a smartly organized futile of you know some crazy power structure this is chaos avanty that's the saddest f****** faction that they had them at * after jail was texting you remember that night back oh my god did she know cuz I texted a picture because I texted picture me sitting next to Shapiro full get up flipping them the bird he texted them a picture in the encryption app block on YouTube so she gets arrested for tasing somebody handgun and because they were already on their radar organized rooster extended organized as the Berkeley faction or is any other faction that's that's cause trouble who knows but to some level they are and then that's that's what I feel exhausted to can help them if you're trying to suppress people that hardcore and it's just a guy was talking and that guy turns out to be Ben Shapiro and you're calling him a Nazi like do you see those dangerous in his head do you see those dangerous on his head are you out of your mind you're so far gone that you like with every single one of these things it diminishes The credibility of this this whole movement

so your podcast yeah was the big podcast that kind of sunk Milo kind of a combination it was me watching him on your show that let us to ask about that cuz I saw him on your show and he was like God at the time cuz I remember at the time he was on our show I told Paul one of my co-host like Paul this guy ain't no lightweight and he's got a huge Army A6 dance right now if you get the debate with him if you lose your total b**** if you tie you lose if you win by a little you lose the only way you can actually beat him with his army of sycophantic this time is if you just demolish him so don't even try you were concerned about this like this is like something you planned out in advance no I mean I wasn't really it wasn't a plan I just wanted to bring it up cuz I saw him on your show saying and I'm like that's very strange coming from sure cuz I knew that he had had experiences like sexual experiences when he was younger a 13 year old boy no matter how flamboyantly gay or sexually aggressive you know jumping the priest bones or something you know sort of gives you a better understanding of how this guy came to be who he is today and why he's so relishes his role of being the contrarian and being this this sort of very difficult to pigeonhole game and who's very conservative but yet believes in man Boy Love in the sub if you go back and you read old articles that he wrote for Publications that he worked for in the past there was a lot of stuff like we're going to take on bullying on Twitter and you know we need to make a safe space for people on online this is Milo and now he's like the biggest troll last time I was on your show when you told me you can't put the seed in my brain like it's kind of like fake and the more I looked into it the more I have to question whether or not that s*** with the priest even happens to begin with because I just don't I don't know I don't really trust this s*** that comes out of his mouth in terms of like face value lot of times when Milo tries to make a point he doesn't necessarily make it by directly saying it he tries to make it through like performance art on Bill Maher and and you know he's he's he's doing this whole flamboyant gay conservative thing because he wants the the liberal Bill Maher audience to be like boo boo look what Hypocrites they obviously I'm not gay people Milo Scandal broke would like I took him down it was me he was you saying yeah and it's a lot of very calculated stuff blob and get people active and get people to talk about him and that's the reason why he does this tour oncologist Amy Wilds why not do it in the Lion's Den if you want to get the Roars when he's doing it like where he feels like this problem is the greatest club downtown what's really insane is that was of the mayor of San Francisco there was a plotting the protoss like hey f******* there was $100,000 worth of property damage people throwing chairs or Starbucks windows and lighting cop cars on fire at least this ain't good there's been articles on like I almost made a video about this article on The Huffington Post actually it was basically like violence is as valid a reaction to Trump is anything that's like wow you're literally just advocating for violence and you think you're so enlightened yeah it's completely foolish it's like it goes and when things aren't going the way it goes against everything they've stood for before what about kindness what about compassion what about treating people with love what about facts that's okay with her and power and power but when someone else like it all kind of goes both ways. on your way it goes against everything they've stood for before what about kindness what about compassion what about treating people with love what about facts but that's okay with her and power and power but when someone else is in power that they don't like it all kind of goes both ways.

this is such a cool thing so all the car companies pain all the car companies used to use spray paint like manually for the train cars right so over the years you have layers of this paint and it became basically artificial mineral so when you take a cross-section it looks like here next year it's red the next year screen over time to paint and cute accumulates and you can use that cross-section to make really cool things I think that's really cool yeah I never heard of that before and so one more time they're taking it out of like a solar plant or Corvette whatever have one of Corvette 1/4 and over the years you know they did ship it away from the walls and they have a block of it here you go get that sick yeah you could do whatever you want with it including makeup tree rings almost it so you have a pen made out of that got to funding right so what happens on Twitter is every so often some Cretin will come for me and I'll be like it would be a shame if people send me money to waste on things I don't want just to spite you and I put up Michael mouse.com contribute and I go I will post receipts and people send me cash and they say this has to be wasted I don't need 7/10 I don't need 8 shaving brushes I don't need a signed copy of Langston hughes's book I got them fossils in this is all because of a cretin comes after you on Twitter and I'm like okay people going to sit and indigo snake oil salesman getting anything out of this except for you I don't really need these things out of money just to f*** with you will they definitely don't know what snake oil is that why you engagement people on Twitter because it's hilarious it's my biggest activity these candidates there like press secretary will have fewer followers in me right so I'll say something like hey there was an article in the New York Times today about your candidate how freaked out is the campaign and how much is this a reflection on you not being able to do your job correctly cuz you know in that article hits than your times during the campaign you're in the bunker you're freaking out what is this mean so they have it it sounds like f*** you they can look no f*** you so you do this even if there's not a real story story Opana can you attack for fun and cuz they're bad people often which ones are bad Jeremy corbyn and Kamala Harris those are the two I thought with the worst other than that I don't think anyone's a bad person set is pronouns he him yeah yeah yeah do this video my name is Jaime carbon Jeremy corbyn is Elizabeth Warren has her pronouns on her thank God that you're part of the tribe yes come on in her defense Morris in her defense Warren is a man's name so

do you think about this whole you're more informed than me about international issues for chrissakes went to North Korea you never been males the new emalon that's what I heard what do you think about all this crazy s*** is going on right now with a run I have a great book idea and it's such a great book idea I'm going to just drop it here in the hopes that if I don't ever do it someone does it or some publisher wants to contact my agent just give me a deal on the spot I'll do it I'll do it with war for a hundred years Spanish-American War yellow journalism when we were kids but now they love war they can't get enough Trump is only presidential when he's bombing Syria they just are desperate to push the war drums and what I love about again Tulsi is she served and she's like War we have to start seeing War as a last resort instead of a first priority in the first response and I don't know what's going to happen as a consequence of Ron this guy is most people know so the money was a huge deal like he was really revered in a Ron and very hated by people elsewhere Trump also started killing other people and like you have any took somebody out and some other countries go they're going on a killing spree so I don't think this is going to be world war three at all because it's Ron knows they can't win and I'm sure right now it is just flexing your muscles right I think very strongly whenever it is that there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scene that people are talking like what's going to happen I'm sure there must be but did the idea that he was willing to just do that and that he even has the call that he can make the call like there's here several options sir right which one do you want to do when I get there till but I think it's amazing that we've gotten to the point where you're blowing up a wedding right and you're killing a lot of people and you're killing just came in one other person Gary to the Iranians are too scary. I should be scared us come over to hear what you mean that kind of Technology can be used against Americans by another country well frankly if they're going to be terrorists I'd rather than taking it one person than 3,000 don't know for sure they have that kind of ability ability in general another like really sketchy in terms of like the legality of it like what it's not really a military story but it's definitely a military strike I mean I think we've been playing fast and loose with the rules of War for a long time and I think everyone knows this is nothing physically insightful that wore in the rules of War written by the powerful people I remember when people were talking about how much of a warmonger Obama was because drone strikes went up considerably from Obama from George Bush to you know what else went up drone technology yeah they're just getting better bombing people they know how to do it better and this is something I'd argue with people and wonder about when you become Fred like Obama was very anti-war through his campaign he was a big Lefty he went to call Ivy League schools bubble a culture that he came from he gets in the White House's drone bombing everybody do you think that they sit you down when you're president and alright here's what you can be in charge of but here is how it's going to be internationally and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way it happens I think there's no way until you get into office you ever really understand what information what do you know what what what plans that they can reveal that terrorists have what you know what what kind of mean there's there's got to be some kind of intelligence they receive that probably scares the f*** out of them, yeah when you stop and think about how many nuclear bombs there are how many radical terrorist there are how many different Sexes how many people fight over each other the here are some photographs of a crime scene that we found that Isis behead all these holy act like this is all real stuff that you think could show you and then go look we have done our very best to keep everybody safe but there's only one way to keep doing this we got a drone bomb thrown away I know that many years ago that enough just know this but I'll be all there was a nail bomb in Grand Central that they caught in the no one talked about it and talked about it who found the nail bomb authorities the right people and they took care of it and nothing happened but think how many soft targets there are nail bomb down further information on my question you further you could question you want tell me the story again where the sky is left probably I don't know but if I since I've been through at grand central air quality Business Place Grand Central where the sky is the spot where the bomb was left probably how do you know where the bones I don't know but ever since I've been through at grand central air quality

you never be around other humans do you know what happened to the Unabomber do you know how that happened to brother yeah cuz he was pedantic oh yeah it was that but it was also the Unabomber and himself Ted Kaczynski we are part of the Harvard LSD studies very bright man is a professor at Berkeley so he went to school at Harvard they put him in the Harvard LSD studies that cook this f****** dumb and then he disappeared went to Berklee worked as a professor to earn enough money so you could buy a cabin implemented plan to kill everybody who was involved in technology so it stopped his takeover of the human race which probably is true John Waters the director he has a replica of the Unabomber cabin is room is that great I love that who's got the real cabin it was at a museum I think that actually just closed so I don't know where Tyler now there's a museum called the Newseum and somewhere yeah I know people that researched she still has its own oh my God what a nightmare for poor Bill you get your dick sucked in 94 in this lady still carrying that just stained dress like Jesus Christ lady Let It Go he's probably do well she's probably throw it away about now and it says it was it and it closes last week yeah they close last week by week s*** that could have been out here bro expensive by probably like me and Marilyn Manson me to read it I haven't read it but they said it's very smart I read parts of it that's one of the things as disturbing as it's like well-thought-out and also the argument is sound technology will inevitably lead to better technology which inevitably leads to artificial intelligence which is inevitably going to take over the world well there's a hole Singularity thing right as well and I don't know why but I don't know what he predicted I think we're supposed to be for their loss yeah he's a 2045 guy and what he says is that the exponential increase of Technology if you follow it to write the prediction is somewhere in the neighborhood of 2045 Village save this Singularity have but I think they're also finding that they're actually is somewhat asymptotic and it does at a certain point you are having those with physical limitations to using the speed and it's not going to be that easy we need to change Quantum Supremacy they also they had was IBM or whatever had the quantum computer and the other people like listening to climb a lot of why this was a big controversy Justin last month I found its new location after the Montana Historical Society tried to get it and now exist at this fun place the FBI so they wanted to get my so he was in Montana when he's born again and we're going to keep it brother suspect that he was doing it I'll let you know before the the manifesto did you read the manifesto and then because the Unabomber as a kid was always annoyed by people saying you can have your cake and eat it too cuz he's like no no no it's you can eat your cake and have it too and the Unabomber use that phrase are quotes correctly and the guys like that's my brother and that's how they figured it out cuz he was being a pedantic deck stop and relax that's crazy I thought he just recognized the style of writing L it like I mean double check me but I'm 90% sure this is correct it to ya when you're that smart you're already kind of tripping could regular people don't seem like the same thing as you do and maybe a little schizophrenic and then they fill them up with a f****** half a gallon of acid look how much did they give him do you know knows they were experimenting with operation midnight climax f***** up CIA experiments they ever did they went to brothels and they set up a brothel with all these prostitutes in these John's and they dosed all the guys needs hidden cameras and couldn't talk about it cuz like what what happened to Harry somebody getting me a Mickey they slipped me a mention I had a bad time where this happened Harry oh I don't know I guess I was at the darn or something you can't say I went to the whorehouse to get my dick sucked and they gave me acid these assholes since kindergarten someone says the CIA has experimented and regular people they will tell you it admitted it they will tell you with a straight face if that's a conspiracy theory they will just use that word and stop thinking and we've been trained for decades and said wait a minute we've been hearing three years that there was a conspiracy between Trump and The Food Administration that's a conspiracy theory whether it's true or not Epstein was a conspiracy he was conspiring with a lot of people Weinstein Bill Cosby these are all conspiracies that are white was a conspiracy he was conspiring with a lot of people Weinstein Bill Cosby these are all conspiracies that are widely known but if you as soon as you hear that term like racist conversations over I didn't hear anything else amazing all you believe in conspiracy theories

Hong Kong shirt then I am so hopeful for the people of Hong Kong and I talked about in my show Nightshade constantly My Hope Is it reminds me of Poland 1989 right in Poland 1989 you had this big labor movement solidarity they weren't conserve is there left easier labor and they're like look the Constitution says we have Democratic elections if you have them there's only one candidate let's have elections let's have elections and the Margaret Thatcher came their support of them she was loved Eastern Bloc so the Polish, his party sat down there like all right let's have these elections and then there were some Thai little bit worried that well what if we win the election today at the people who going to go for all the comments, the elections happen the labor solidarity with every seat except one and the question is are they going to honor this where are they going to wave it away they honored it and that was the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union I don't think you could have Tiananmen Square today Inman Square was before smartphones Tiananmen Square was before the internet there's no footage Tank Man wasn't killed he was foldaway Hong Kong we're seeing the footage and when you see kids getting beaten and teargas you don't need to speak any language to look at and be like something's not right here and decide with the people who are getting beaten this is very Martin Luther King thing like even the racist for like I don't want these people to have dogs attacking them in the water hoses this is outrageous hopefully this is going to work positively to start the end of the you know evil Chinese dictatorship I hope you're right I hope you're right and that would also work towards slavery North Korea which is obviously a tissue do you think that it's possible for China to ever turn it around don't forget about the Hong Kong but mainland China turn it around but hole dictatorship I mean it kind of did it with their kind of a dictatorship right now you can't you can get a passport you're not going to get your organs harvested Roy Jones jr. of all-time championship weight in heavyweight okay he beat John Ruiz to win the heavyweight championship a guy who fought at 168 lb okay he's a beast okay sure he's one of the greatest of all time and he also has a Russian passport system to control internal migration which is really really bad what do you think about people being able to go back and forth like like the way you think about travel back and forth from Russia and the United States me they must be like watching every single thing you do I don't think it's as pervasive I listen you know what they're watching everything we do here come on over there I think I I think I'd Snowden should be allowed to walk free I think so too I mean it's insane that we drove him into the hands of the Soviet Union and he was exposing was illegal activity he was elected officials in his wildest dreams and his KGB never had that power surveillance like Ed Snowden revealed that every single cell phone is being hacked into audio recording literally every call I mean it's it's and we just sit here like all this is fine track the level of soccer right to privacy the level of surveillance that this government is putting forward is insane metadata no worries of metadata we're just collecting people's emails right yeah we all read emails then there was some reporter I forgot her name like they were deleted she was on her computer and you could see the file being deleted me from her she's cheap video with her camera yeah cuz she was breaking this stuff of course listen if 4chan can get into your into your computer they can Fortune can get into your computer they can

we were talking in the last podcast about Epstein and we watched we looked at some of the autopsy photos and looked at some of the the account especially particularly dr. Michael Baden the guy from the HBO autopsy show us some getting off the plane I've no answer weird you see the purple El Chapo including everybody you've got footage the right why is there no footage of what the f*** I don't have an answer but it's nothing is even say this this is weird conspiracy theory no literally tell me what what I'm missing assistant come to visit him in jail I did not know that get to hang out in the air like wow lawyer at a special room where they would buy out all of the pop machines and snacks all of them needs to sit there and hang out 16 hours a day or more they were trying to resolve this issue peacefully they're trying to figure out a way I like this guy Knew Too Many people and wasn't talkin and while he wasn't talkin they were trying to like desperate that damn I would assume and stop him from potentially talking and then while the prosecutor is closing in while they're making this airtight case and the only way for him to make anything more lenient is to start saying in pea New York PD she's got names of many people but video two dudes f****** kids it just this is classic conspiracy theory proven true it's a class we all saw it coming but this is a classic conspiracy theory famous people and then take these people and bring them to Island Boy brings in a bunch of girls that are underage and they all flock and they film sit you be like what are you even talking about right but this is real what about the fact that his number two she's liking it is really something and she she's not interested beers that are not allowed to be or that's part of the deal is that they can't be arrested for possession to make deals I'm not arguing through this make sense what leverage do you have you were like the world's biggest pedophile ring and it's like all right my people do all that if maybe she was if I was going to be the guy writes the script I would say there's a dead switch yes and then if she dies the s*** gets out and she says listen the moment I died all the s*** gets published Epstein pass under Guard Special Forces guard pictures of Michael Jackson is that like a pedophile lateral faces credible death threats and is being guarded by Pharmacy u.s. Navy Seals and safe houses in the American Midwest change it he seems a little Specter me my wrong something's not right there something wrong with you watching this in your if he's like oh yeah I cut off contact with them they're like well there was a dinner in August will I was talking by then you were the guests of honour well it was like what the fuc dude he seems like he's a little detached from reality in some sort of strange way you can't develop without trials and tribulations and come out normal especially when you're not just a famous person but you're a royal yeah I'm going to ask him about hugging the girls I'm a royal we don't as it were hug but doing the best book through a hole in the bathroom the best part one of those things where things are open Secrets and in Hollywood and like everyone kind of knows everyone knew that Kevin Spacey was a dick or our yeah yeah and it's kind of like then it's like all you conspiracy is like artists that were doing things are f***** up but we kind of let them get away with it because they're really talented and there's no real proof and Jesus Financial finance your Jeffrey Epstein once flew Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey to Africa OG Clinton really likes Russian Roulette he want to f*** 2/8 monkey eight times in his plane just flew a couple times my friend Jeffrey we're friends I had Juanita broaddrick unless you're the one who had to write the accusation against him and I went in there hoping that she was lying he raped her in the morning and it was like half an hour like she he went with her to her hotel room in Arkansas and it was I thought was that a few drinks and then it's useless to meeting with him about something it's horrible with these people get away with no he bit her lip just like a cat to keep her from yelling and then when he left blasting assessor you better put some ice on that and another woman who accused him of Kathleen Willey who accused him of forcing herself on him he bit her lip too and the two never knew each other before the independently had the same thing that he does he bites her lips little scream or you just bite those cuz it's hot to get you know whatever that's his thing starting to get is that people in power are often really depraved and they will use their power and sadistic ways and they get off and not having consequences it's not like I'm getting a kickback for hiring my cousin it's so much worse than that and they're starting to see it net worth of Amy robach thing that footage leak was she's just like we had the whole FC store and get Prince Philip we had Bill Clinton and the lawyers killed it and she was just she was like pissed that get the scoop but it's actually a hundred percent think he was killed and it's like yeah this is what they're like when the cameras are off right the Clinton thing is so f****** weird right because you have Hillary who was this woman who was going to be the first woman president everyone was behind her and we're all thinking that she represents hope and change and all the wonderful things of the progressives want sure when they have that debate and Trump brought those women you have to sit out in front as I know he didn't know ya oh no he didn't ya and Melania was wearing a p****-bow it's certain type of not yet a p****-bow is a special kind of not called a p**** bow you saying is that her well that guards the other one around waiting here and we just waxed all the money that's different it is and weights not see what kind of horrible crimes are committed by these Elites that you know and I also didn't get skill I do it right out in front of everybody knows what happened to Jack Ruby it's just like how this is the most important person on Earth right now to keep safe and you're not doing it right Jack Ruby just runs up and shoots him in the gut yeah so bad that this is allowed to happen important person on Earth right now to keep safe and you're not doing it right Jack Ruby just runs up and shoots him in the gut Yeah by how are you letting the wrong how are you f****** up so bad that this is allowed to happen

hey just f****** hate it I hate all of it you know I mean I hate the fact that we get let into these goddamn thing that's the thing yeah that is could happen that we people could lose brothers and sisters and friends and all of it that's the most disturbing thing I've ever seen there was this like the group of four pictures of this little kid I remember his name Timmy and it's like the first one he's like camouflage like holding up a photo of his dad then they made a stuffed animal with his dad's face on it and these like holding up a sign it's like I love you Dad can't wait to see you soon like the dad was dead like 20 and then let's show some support for little Timmy I'm like this just out of his one of him kissing the dad gravestone and I'm like this is not good like yeah we should support this kid but it would be a lot better if he wasn't in this position it's heartbreaking and just sitting and cuddling with his dad's doll or was it really messed with me something Sears Shuffle and we need less of that you would definitely not as as little as tall as mean as little of that as possible it's just heartbreaking to say and he's just so cute and proud isn't it crazy that you really only can say as little as of that as we can you can't really say we should have no war because no one thinks that cuz he wants a conflict each other but that's amazing you that is much as we know our base of knowledge that we can extract information from is so giant our ability to communicate with each other's unprecedented we can translate things real tired and still we got more than someone wants to take your stuff and I don't you know someone else cuz I don't want you taking my stuff this is Vin you know it's but it's gotten a lot better definitely not a lot better no I mean it used to be it was considered appropriate that if you beat someone in a war you kill everyone yes and now it's like maybe you don't need to literally kill everyone or maybe you killed his General and then they kill some of your guys and then you kill a bunch of people they kill a bunch of your people and they say if you do that again what can you do have a happy ending son-of-a-b**** what you do you'll be out here with a f****** crazy suit on that would be no one here to listen to us the 45 it was 45 45 its and no one else has either that's what it except for Russia nuking themselves basically Chernobyl UPS yeah and then North Korea did they do that then they experiment in the mountains yes and then Mountain but I don't think anyone died so yeah how could they possibly say they were Ron Hey f***** up f***** up his back and explaining this I I think you he's not going to back that loan this is not a back down there anyway do you think it's possible that they could somehow another work this out yes really yeah because look even worth it innocence the sanctions and how we've kind of collapsed my reminder standing I'm not an expert arranz currency is also a huge deal and it's caused a lot of you know suffering there so they didn't do anything about that true could you know if your dick big enough and Demands a response and I don't think they're not going to respond they could respond Subway that's kind of like the safe face now how many write and write how many people do you think are in the Iranian regime that want change and that realizing that the Iranian regime and their support of certain aspects of terrorism and then the support of a lot of the stuff they're claiming this guy did including the the IDS and this is all problematic they brought this upon them by their acts and their deeds that we need to change the government like that really what a sophisticated intelligence society would want they want they would want to figure out how to infiltrate that thing that organization and sow seeds of doubt and like let everybody know how do you love your children cuz out I just made a giant f****** mistake I can look at it through the lens of stuff actually kind of worried about what you like North Korea and the Soviet Union and what happens if these regimes of people the top aren't they are cuz they're smarter charismatic they're there cuz they're loyal that's the first test word everyone's always looking after each other the kind of like look this guy's gun soft and they're getting rid of each other that way that's the power place going on over there so if you have someone being like oh maybe we shouldn't do terrorism all of a sudden everyone is Raising eyebrows and being like this cuz if you're going to advocate for that everyone's got to be on the same page cuz that's a big move to make right rights of 1 guys like because maybe this is evil it's like okay now you're making us look evil and I don't like having this voice in the meeting so it I think it's going to be very hard to have sex thing is about this strike because it was so precise I'm sure they're scared also that he would have no problem killing them individually that's the real fear so it's like oh if I ask like this he might be coming for me personally next or the people if there is a you know Revolt it could be like adopting your being raped to death by like a broomstick and they don't want that you stand there and shocking a stabbing on the a****** what's up with an item like yeah but you guys going to be the amount you would Jima Guy The Future you know about you but what I'm worried about is some sort of an attack on on some sort of a public place like a Disneyland it'll be a lot easier for them hitting his real hate them Love Like a Rock somewhere so who knows what would I need what they did with the Iraq war with it when it was Bush and Tony Blair they bombed the train station in Spain and Spain couldn't get out of there fast enough so it could be that they're going after one of her allies to separate us you know that might be a smart move to do you go from there so many spots I hit you know what I mean there's no way you can really it's like a shell game there's only so many shells what do you mean yes I'm very hopeful 40% of the world is on the table at all no cuz I think what happens is Russia and China and Britain sit down with us and Iraq and Iran and the like this is how it's going to be that's what I think happens everdream what is the cold medicine that he had Sudafed I wonder if he's being used in that regard I need a wrecking ball being used in that regard

virus scans and all kinds of s*** and you cover your webcam with tape and you're beating off I should start doing that I do run by scams I do not cover my webcam with tape for when I'm under some f****** for controls in there let them but let them watch able to get an alert whenever you p*** gets pulled up in your brows like Mom and Dad they run down the basement Bolt the door shut the going to see quite a show Imagine by dad because he was so excited to beat off watching you beat off that he tripped fall down stairs and broke his neck half pants half down and in the cops break and find out what the f*** is going on and it's you jerking off on a webcam this guy's Dead with his neck snap at the bottom of stairs his pants half download given how many people jerk off to watch a meteor cost at this thing that's going to happen at some point would you be excited yes when you that's awesome I'd like the guy went out with a bang ya like my come kill him for sure these people right now looking through like perverts looking through somehow or another getting through a webcam of watching someone of course of course opposite of fascinating I assure you I'm about 5 minutes away from being Terri Schiavo what is the employees have been spying on the kids Keller through the device oh my God that's a crime and you said it and it goes so I put it under her bed and I forgot the next morning I got a text that just goes idiot do you worry about apps like a Android apps being corrupted like they'd apparently don't have a strange in a testing I don't have that many apps and I'm much more of a desktop person I'm not in my phone that much cuz I'm like a recluse but you still recluse want to get out outside of scared of me where to go to meet people make a lot of people are basic as hell and they don't bring anything to the conversation there's a lot of that yeah yeah you got to find better people to hang out with you how you do that you go outside I have this bro I have a good crew so I'll tell you that's my friend molested we had friendsgiving and I said Matt you have a unique opportunity to make this the most awkward Thanksgiving in history these people like you there they're your friends sit down and tell them that this happened and he's like I can't do it I go okay how about this if I do it against your what if I do it against your will I wouldn't really be wrong given the story he's like dude and I didn't do it but it would have been funny about the small amount of time would have been funny and then he would have had to deal with the weight of all these people which is also funny I had this deal with the weight of all these people which is also funny I take that back I think you're doing good

sowing the seeds of discourse or Discord all throughout social media is always wonderful because Joe Biden is Menomonie he does not have a good social media team I went when he had this family photo for Halloween all I just thought reply with a photo of a crack pipe right and where is Hunter #was trending and I'm with no matter what you think of Joe Biden it is not acceptable for his Twitter not to be able to handle this anticipated especially cuz you have someone who just tweet his way into the presidency three years ago where are the people who are helping this guy you know with his social media game what does the people that are mean and funny like that are all Republicans about the the memes that go against Trump versus the means that go for Trump like the pro Trump memes are so much funnier the left can't meme is a thing and that when I arrive I wonder if she knows about that she knows cuz she she knows she saw it she saw it and send it to me and I'll make sure she sees it weird man like that they didn't know the stuff that you could call her out on that he did but he didn't even get to the horrible stuff the horrible stuff was when she was threatening single moms with jail Talia take their kids were truant right imagine your you just barely staying above water as a single mom and you got to literally make your f*************** terrified that you're going to go to jail in order for them to go to jail and she was laughing about to go to jail that's the thing is that I don't think she actually cared I think this was her means to further political career I think you're right because when you are you could say a lot of things about Joe Biden and I have on Twitter to go on the stage and call him a closet racist or imply that come on like this is what she did the first of ichigo's know you were against busing and he suggested on the federal level talking about you better watch who you fooling when she when she dropped out like the fans chipped in on my livestream and I spent $400 on ham and I did a ham tasting cuz if it was done it was a lot of fun

like this Greta thornburn girl do they have to go to her every time anybody says anything wrong about the climate cuz apparently meatloaf said something would have meatloaf today comments and he just relax he pretty much like kind of did that play my chill out lady that's what we do you took what we are so kind of pad for it I think it's hilarious that it like imagine all the other girls in school what did they think about her you know like I have a friend who works with autistic people and she said she thinks she's autistic she eats she thinks that this situation is like a really bright child that maybe is being like pushed in this direction through this public figure it's just opinions are valid they definitely are valid but it's just it's not healthy to take a young kid who's developing and then thrust them into the front of something like global climate change debate it's so hostile and then just instantaneously this kid is getting mocked and f*** with and then they're asking her to make statements and and how dare you how dare you just plays over and over and over again like she's not wrong it's not wrong opinions but it's like she's really young to handle this I don't know if she's autistic she seems very very smart if you like this all day almost immediately think they're probably really smart at something or is that accurate smart at do one time when I was really high I had a crazy thought about autism and that all these Spectrum disorders are eventually going to make emotions like a less significant aspect of Being Human Being you know some people some people they don't have any control over their emotions right there just did their fly off the handle their nutty they cry they screamed it it's very very right with all of us would you be like more efficient if that wasn't the case anymore or gives it was like it like an appendix and I know we had an appendix where the organ that we used to use to prop was it like processing roots and shed or bark bone breaking down bone Randstad always f****** said which one of the Xanax or Prozac makes you just relax right or anti-anxiety one Prozac to speed right or anti-anxiety one Xanax take that when you get off of it it accentuates the anxiety like once you get out the rubber band effect but then saw doctor told me that's horseshit

the idea that a guy actually had a f*** Island thank you thank you thank God he doesn't give a f*** telling it like it is I love it even after I love this kind of Tim Cook Tim Cook Apple then he said if Isis opened up a studio you always sunny resume Zoe said something wrong with Lockheed I'll be like the guest streaming service contact probably say I'll do it I'll do it this way and only this way and they're like okay Ricky we love you we love you I we know you wouldn't do anything to jeopardize our amazing organization and we all love working with you here at the Golden Gloves and it's fine Easter people up everybody knows you're a good guy I mean it's another thing like this murder right it's like that's just how everything was done that's just how everything was done they say that's how they whacked everybody and that was how you got things built cheap they use slave labor but nobody knew then we really understood until you saw things like Foxconn do you like this is a good setup you guys working 16 hours a day you sleep in the building this is a good place this is good oh yeah yeah they have some crazy countdown thing that goes when they get an order and have to run to go get it probably a fun job if you're into losing weight cause my ankle weights and Chip maybe a weight fast and just run around that thing you can't f****** vicious workout that's making lemonade out of lemons right now naked you get up a good workout while you're working the Apple thing that. Had this thing but you're standing right sitting right there before you start saying it do you know it's a it's a real company and its first of a sweatshop Solarium a Foxconn works in the United States and a try to have companies here in the United States I remember we talked about right yeah on top of the annual position to lecture the public about anything you know now about the real world most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thornburg so if you win come up except your little Ward thank your agent your God and f*** off okay by NBC he also was who's also be profanity two other jokes one where he called cats James Corden a fat p**** and another where he discussed the same films Judi Dench licking her ass comedian however also pepper the bottom lock with references to meet you in contemporary issues start off by noting that was his fifth time hosting and therefore he didn't care what flag he would take then he punched him with a nod to last year's College admissions Scandal I came here in a limo tonight in the license plate was made by Felicity Huffman it doesn't have that he's a real, cuz he's a real comic that's that's a right down so the little lower than that says yeah while discussing the addition of Apple TV plus the room to race know the irony of a me to theme show like the morning she'll be made by company run sweatshops in China you say your work but if I start a streaming service you call your agent we're going to get this right folks I really believe this was when we were talking about earlier about that everything being bad I don't think it is I think it's just a lot of noise is a lot of noise lot of people yelling swing back around already swinging back around human swing back around already it's swinging back around brick human you know we have weird things we are the other things change it's all changed now everything's changed relax we're okay we're going to be alright

Kevin Spacey crazy video YouTube channel yeah well does it keep doing that character little undying bro assistant that kill people for him imagine what that actor imagine Doug that guy is so deep into his character that he goes out and wax all because it was the best role he had a got that you know I'm saying this is a character wrestling the fire pit commit suicide what is this world imagine if he threatens everybody else was getting jobs again people like I don't know how he's doing it but everybody's dying fireman House of Cards be f****** you just hear me out season 9 we never showed that he was dead never shows his dad the last season when they had no him I was like what are you doing okay what the f*** are you doing what are you doing here what you what would you do to my show does that my show this is like oh my God everybody's watching us that's what the show was now oh my God everybody's watching everything we do oh my God now what do we do that shows seem so like nervous didn't it the first episode it was like they didn't have like a regular house of cards episode it was like everything was like a little bit barely glued together they were reluctant a wonderful life just gave me a shot and how many people watch and apologize cuz there's a movie they made where they had to go back and shoot with somebody else that he was done right yeah really that I don't I don't think that this would warrant a murder all they did was they were hanging out and he said Kevin Spacey reach down and grab his junk until it's go get some air and he got mad and said know what the f*** but do you think somewhat mean would that be a reason why Kevin space would kill you for saying that I mean how many people is he going to guilt Google what do you think I know your honest opinion what if he always kill people never settles assault lawsuit following death of accuser there was one week after that video was posted s*** is happening is a real it's a good time to be conspiracy theorist cuz there's a few of them that aren't ridiculous just some juicy ones right now f*** this Jack Ruby s*** let that one go we don't know folks we're never going to know but I'll tell you what we got one in front of us right now that Rivals that we are quite a few of them how to be a conspiracy theorist cuz there's a few of them that aren't ridiculous just some juicy ones right now I f*** this Jack Ruby s*** let that one go. We don't know folks we're never going to know but I'll tell you what we got one in front of us right now that Rivals that we are quite a few of them

so it was one of the things we wanted to talk about when we first started one of them was a Jeffrey Epstein remember what the other one was you were going to show me The Jeffy Ooh Child I don't know if you got a betdsi you can stand if they only drop one nuke and it's on the White House small one little baby nuke levels the entire building and everything near it was Iran jumper dropped out of their the nuclear Accord so they're going to start enriching uranium again Iran nuclear weapons! check something right but they can get them this is so crazy this seems like for the first time in a long time I'm thinking we could go to war with a country but just seems crazy the internet jumped in the World War 3 I don't know I don't know what's happening right now I could be good stuff could be happening right now it's what did the guy do cuz Dan Crenshaw was saying that he organized the attack on the embassy and then he was organizing other attacks on us sites he was a bad guy supposed to be like there was there is some stuff saying like that he is a bad guy. It's just how Trump did it is how the problem he did help fight Isis a lot also so he wasn't you was a really guy but there was points like the biggest problem is that Trump has went out pretty much assassinated him instead of dealing with it like an adult imagine when they went through all those other like really finally detailed points this is a strategy we can employ or we just take them out and mess hall did he already was trolling Trump to like trolling on Twitter I don't know if that was true imagine imagine retarded orange get its fake ass f****** baby hands is like hell yeah fukin baby hands oh my God he got into a meme battle with Trump set aside to do things look real I don't want to come in today yet cuz I have a feeling I have a lot to say about this situation that might kill a million people our leaders I got to make this critical decisions for us and I got to be in charge of whether it what kind of diplomacy we employ on other nations to represent us in the most personal way possible like it the way he does it a joint Trump doesn't that's personal that's how he is so he's standing for us but he's standing up for himself as a person as part of that to write like he doesn't want to be f***** with you want you to know the United States not to be f***** with me and charge him he's the one out there and he's you can give you this new guys I hope I just Newcomb Commander the Islamic revolution guards corpse Force Major General soleimani with a Game of Thrones inspired meme of his own it says I will stand against you and it has the game with things like oh and you so he put that up and then Trump that is a couple months ago but I doubt he removed this is November 2018 so crazy it's so crazy that these world have collided what do you think Putin is probably laughing his ass off right now he's probably got his feet up on the chair smoking a cigar just laughing and laughing watching this chaos play out and then for sure he's going to help Iran for sure so dumb it's also scary but it's also one of those things where we don't know what the f*** is going on so it could have been the right move we don't know I mean it might it might have been the thing you have to do to avoid more more deaths China Russia and Iran hold joint Naval drills in the Gulf of Oman horrific China Russia and Iran together we're getting to some World War I hear that's World War 3 Italy join in Germany that's what that is away from the coast bro I'm bad imagine if this f****** guy gets us into World War 3 by deciding to do that and then have all these crazy threats to the rest of the world does not want to think just want to things like if you think you're the baddest mother f***** and you represent the baddest country you got to kind of almost be like a real badass motherfuker like a guy like eBay miocic like the UFC heavyweight champ don't go around saying they going to kick everybody's ass cuz everybody knows it and if you you start saying that you're going to be able to do whatever you want to maybe even doing it disproportionate Manor all the other countries like why do you have any power pack or Yuma and it's a really powerful we all get together that's a weird thing to do to take on a country that has allies that's where it gets f***** up it's not just Iran Iran it's all Iran's allies they all get together now you have a giant force of people and nuclear weapons congratulations did you guys play chess or did you put Checkers growing up and you didn't see this coming this is why it's really important to have you know people have to be able to talk of dialogue you see the sweet 3752 Iranian sites representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago bro that was during the Carter Administration I think we can let that go the same f****** people those people are all dead this that's crazy so this is Morty mentality this s*** to get hot get hot and they can get real and if he really has the ability to do that what are the causes he have the ability to do is there ever going to be another moment like that where I ran box is in a ship and then he sends in a fighter jet I mean is this going to really f****** happen because then none of us can go anywhere we have to hide and we got to get out of LA because it definitely knew that like this is because imagine the movie is it all played out like that in like a Stephen King movie made a thing about a game show host that eventually becomes the president knighted states and starts a war while he's on speed before this was enough to make me go holy s*** like is there a better way to handle that then blast knock out of the robot from the sky like start I don't know man I don't want to know right you don't want to know that all over the world these little pieces are in motion they're trying to protect us from terrorists trying to make sure that they stop Isis and this sect is growing here and these people getting shot there and what about the cartels not getting up as much if you would be paralyzed by fear if you took in all the information on all the f****** danger all over the world apparel I fear test I was when I was in Vegas while this was happening this weekend if you didn't look at your phone you wouldn't have known yeah this is going on though I didn't hear anybody talking about it yeah I didn't even all around it was a good thing about being off social media and this is was my point the first way is by the time things get to me it's it's already been sorted distributed better you know that you know I have to jump on right away and then it becomes the focus my day long with what we know anything and keep refreshing CNN every 5 minutes I'm scared like legitimately just looking for the first time in a long time since like 911 where I'm legitimately like oh oh this is this is some real s*** this could be really bad because if he says he's going to do something in a disproportionate matter he's threatening them he's calling their Bluff brothers so dangerous so dangerous because all they have to do is just Nuka why do something like that where the rest of the world hey hey hey what are you doing killing each other everywhere everyone cuz that's what could happen just like mutually assured destruction was always supposed to be the the big impediment that mutually assured destruction if we knew that if we shot them they shoot us we'd all be dead that that's what kept us from using bombs but who the f*** knows man what if Iran just says listen if we just sneak a bomb in by the time it's detonated they won't even have a chance to respond the whole system will be f***** the griddle be down all their entertainment will be down everything will be down and then the rest of the world can figure out a way to unite together and take over the power to the United States once enjoyed they were abusing that power they were the number one superpower in the world and they let their guy take diet pills and threatened everybody on Twitter I don't know if he takes pills abusing that power they were the number one superpower in the world and they let their guy take diet pills and threatened everybody on Twitter I don't know if he feels those are his

updated news on other story Harvey Weinstein indicted on new sex crimes in Los Angeles on trial today in New York on other charges your charges just dropped in an hour ago Jesus what time it's sex crimes sexual assault / 2 Day. In 2013 he still has charges against my thought for some reason all these charges have been in New York in this is a separate thing here and what they should do with him they should get him they said listen we're willing to be more lenient on you but we want to get you in a room it's just Claddagh jumpsuit and we're going to give you high dose of MDMA and we're just going to talk to Harvey about tell people why you lash out how this all gets started what's true and what's not true what did you do to people and what what did people willingly do and is that is that same thing as a transaction is one of the it's it's one of the weird things about people that you can do that like it's almost like everyone's a drug dealer right if someone wants to f*** you the drug is sex like that feeling of sacked like that that people love it they love every loves it so someone knew that other people love it and then get something to let those other people do it we go do you can't you can't why can't you but you're doing it anyway just by virtue of your looks right if you're just if you're just trying to be successful on being good-looking in a lot of ways you could it's like the entry level game like you're doing you're looking good so that people give you things you looking good to the people pay you if you want to be like a professional hot chick or model or you know you're you're looking good and then people pay you because you looking good and we're all like we have no problem with that everyone feels no problem with that but if you go and do that and then use your body say I like looking good cuz I can get things but if I use my Vonnegut more things so I've been using my body why you can't use your body you can't what is that we can't imagine if gold diggers it was encouraged and guys like to to know a bunch of old dudes I didn't care and then it was all free on the internet like that everybody would give out information you just I'll take care of your rent that's pretty much what girls do but now but you can't do it legally is my point is like we can like webcam stuff there so many lazy girls out there that don't want to take a job if they can get two thousand bucks for blowing some old dude they be in on that Vegas even of course it should be legal everything should be legal of course you don't want your daughter to be a hooker but of course everything should be legal that doesn't see if it's illegal people are still going to want it so if they're going to want it then you going to get it where it's illegal and you're going to get criminals people I can go to jail they're going to be the ones that are providing these girls with protection they're going to be the ones that also dictates how much money the girls make and how much money they take and we all know what happens there then that's we all seen himself hotel that the other one was great one too if it was legal these girls to be protected they probably have the exact same amount of people that were paying for it beautiful place like Bugsy Siegel they own The Comedy Store you know right you know right it was Bugsy Siegel's place you imagine people just got whacked back then shut the f****** notes everyone out of shovel in the trunk the old photos of the stars and stuff I would go to that Arabs and saying

a little nervous about Iran though that seems like real s*** that makes me want to get educated on the subject so I could really freaked out they wouldn't do anything to make me feel better is when they were screaming death to America. To America recently the president of Iran was like well when we say death to America we don't mean the citizens we like this yeah we know you're saying you're saying death to America okay you like that's one thing that you don't want to be misconstrued if you want to talk to make signs and yell like you don't like me like hey hey we're not talking deaf deaf guys right oh yeah definitely not that that scream death to America everyone's going to know the worst way to communicate something you don't really think that why would you say death to the American political system the American Military complex Captain America that's American everybody has messed up in some International conflict you actually have to think about might come knocking on your door mixed with scumbaggery let us to this position did Trump done anything weird timing though with this hole impeachment set why it's all weird it's all weird the fact that Trump can kill people who could just go send it in send the missile just shoot missiles he can just listen man don't give me that power either don't give anybody that power for sure but a guy like Trump guy was famous for being mean to people on a reality show being a baller I mean that Suites famous for you that's the crazy thing like he was in rap songs all the time in like a complimentary way has gone to an arch Home Alone 2 history you going to go into f****** naked gonna get rid of OJ we can do what you going to do you take OJ out of the NFL archives we going to do this is life but we can't make life prettier but pulling Donald Trump out of Home Alone you supposed to look at Ingo holyshit who is thought that f****** guy would be the president one day and be killing dudes and maybe starting World War 3 like a goddamn Stephen King novel you know Stephen King these media posts are these media Postal Service notification to United States Congress that should Iran strike any us person or Target the United States will click quickly and fully strike back and perhaps in a disproportionate manner such legal notice is not required but his given nevertheless dude f*** this I don't like to see on Twitter that seems so is our it almost seems like the simulation theory has hired like comedy writers to come and subtly f*** with everybody so you can just put it on Twitter how can I just put them on Twitter and balances come you banned from Twitter God is going to heal go to Gap right if you go to the gab gab all sudden Skyrocket cuz everything to want to go to gab to see Trump talk s*** on Gap with its full freedom of speech when he starts wearing on Gap what they make a deal with them they give them 50% of Gap cuz they think it's imminent because of this war with Iran this could be a movie where they're going to ban him from Twitter and Vegeta and itch and Jack Dorsey has to leave he's in a meditation silent meditation Saucon Valley and he has to fly in and he has to figure out whether or not they can make us executive decision to ban Trump calling for you just open up the windows and hear liberals cheering like King Kong just fell off the Empire State Building we have YouTube videos just screaming and popping their fists in the air and pointing to the screen Donald Trump and says owned it would be hilarious and all he would have to do is do that and and go over somewhere else and that new platform would be f****** gigantic cuz everybody would want to know what he says if he says it over there everybody else you just retweet on Twitter anyway it would probably be like killing coyotes you know how you kill coyotes and then they more coyotes like a female when they when they when they shout out that's like a roll call and if someone's missing the female make more babies that's one of the craziest things about coyotes that's why they're everywhere that's what happened with Trump they ban WAP Twitter his signal would be bigger than ever it would be f****** Bonkers like you're in a precarious situation now too because he's these social media companies they're they're being labeled as someone who would ban freedom of speech from certain people if they don't believe it there now this happens to be the president that they say you can't have freedom of speech on our platform anymore then everything is like out the window what is this what are we doing and then if it backfires and Twitter loses all of its power and some other f****** company comes along and takes the spot some company that promises to never do that to the president let people Express themselves but explain perhaps through f****** series of checks and balances why you can't somebody or be mean to somebody or just making sense Trump Towers everywhere I got him in Vegas and Chicago and all over the world like he's got to be a guy that's always thinking about doing the next thing and if you was like you would think he's like setting himself up as a business is like he's a business he's at he's now not just the president and he's always been a business he's always been a celebrity in and you know iconic Financial character but now his entertainment like what he says about life and everything f****** super valuable if Trump like Trump at that show if he decides out podcast no goddamn crazy would be if Donald Trump just pulls up has a YouTube channel talk show the camera says what he really thinks about everything they release it as a podcast as well and no one can stop them cuz that's freedom of speech is freedom of speech is let this guy talk if you start threatening people like threatening Iran from his YouTube channel imagine if World War 3 is caused by a tweet massive Trump threatens someone and they retaliate to show they're not scared we nuked them and then oh my God from a trump tweet with all this I ran things it might happen faster it it I didn't think was going to happen at all but now maybe this your man yeah maybe this is for a purpose it's not going to just go mess of thing and there's a lot of people don't want him to go the Republicans don't want to lose power and they're very smart in that even ones that are you know that we're never trumper's at one point in time they've accepted him eating like human character if you look at them in terms of like just his go back to that photo that we're just looking at let me see that big time he's a fascinating character man and he's also a very strong guy in a lot of ways like mentally strong in terms of what he's been able to accomplish all the business deals always believed himself there's something about that that gets other people innately sort of like to get a little ass kissing around them they just they want him to like them cuz if he doesn't like you it's devastating Trump goes after Young Twitter gets mad at you devastating so they all want them to like I'm so looking Amal reaching for him but that's like a that's a painting one day that they'll have on the caves the cave paint that after World War 3 after we get Newton to the f****** Stone Age cave paint how a guy figured out how to be just mean enough but just nice enough and have all these people Lycoming literally be able to kill someone with a press of a button and then everybody wants a touch unlikely that they're reaching for him they're reaching the back a robot that flies and just shoots missiles in the missiles are called Hellfire missiles did you hear that new I think Russia has it at Super sako's 20 smok 27 from space and it just like roller coasters but here's the other thing when you're 70 for whatever he is do you realize you're seventy-four or you just alive I think you're just alive especially if you're on diet pills then I think you're really just a lie you're out there you're just f****** grinding you just like for grinding because that's how you do it you just go out there and you kick out he's not thinking about riding off into the sunset he's not thinking about any of that s*** but we think that way when we see someone to 74 but by the time he's going to want out he's alive is he alive yeah he's going to just going to keep going especially if you're stimulated if you're artificially stimulated you know I mean I'm talking right now I'm drinking coffee yeah he's going to just going to keep going especially are stimulated if you're artificially stimulated you know I mean I'm talking right now I'm drinking coffee that's why I'm so excited talking yet I hope he does

last night during the Golden Gloves going on there is some jokes going on by Ricky Gervais so we probably talk while later but 60 Minutes was probably going on a different channel the same time and they had a report with some new evidence that nobody has seen yet they have some autopsy photos and photos from inside a cell so I watched the 15 minutes that they put together which is mostly just about like the incident in the in the salad and surrounding it I'm just going to say the pictures up because you can't watch their thing that's 100% the fact that they thought they can get away with that that's so crazy like that is such a crazy thing to try to get away with this gigantic International case he would have happened the cameras and broke man sucks shoelaces give me whatever the f*** that guy strangled me with these photos are all fake right I mean on the top of the great where the window is where you could see maybe there was something up there but the thing to remind remember here is that he was about six foot tall hundred 85 lb like on this ladder here there is also some other things I'll get into in just a second that would be easier to use then tying all the s*** together but they showed there's the other thing here was this this is about four feet off the ground and they do show up a new Switch they're saying was what he used but as the doctors would have said that the new said the show picture which is what you can see the top right corner here since play music from Michael bad and that's that guy from the HBO autopsy show for some reason I can't cuz I'll find a second but the picture that shows actual neck doesn't seem like this news cause that wound and it's a little bit lower than I probably should have been Jesus what is the fraction that they said was inconsistent with hanging it's more consistent with a murderer homicide and he said this is baden's words is that usually he's seen it and maybe like one bone break and sometimes too but there are three fractures he says like he's almost never seen that in any of those cases he's ever looked over and you would think it would be if you're going to hang yourself from such a short distance it would be even harder to get a fracture like that right cuz you not like jumping out like old western movie by Clint Eastwood movie when they would hang them Hang Em High so the one thing that they also had an ear as he left a note Jesus the note said like there's like four things it's at first that the sum of the name blurred out but it said this person left him in a shower locked for an hour but then said someone else gave him like burnt food and then bugs are crawling over his hands and his Road no fun but there's a ballpoint pen like the one I have in my hand sitting right next to him like if you knew he was on suicide watch you wouldn't give him a ballpoint pen that he could kill himself with you should be a God damn that he could have just used that to kill himself new witness somehow this is actually a different video showing a couple different things than what I saw I swear I didn't see this arm thing I didn't see the pictures someone I don't know the name sending burnt food giant bugs crawled on my hands and then no fun and then they're sending any end up with in this ballpoint pen is next to it that he could have stabbed himself the neck or whatever you know play if you don't know and I'm guilty of that hundred percent I might that guy didn't kill himself I am talking s*** though I'm not talking in terms of like people have to understand this is really important and hopefully and it's all these points are consistent strangulation that takes forever to get the pictures and then there's the video cameras didn't work and is the second time he tried to kill himself and he's a high-profile witness in a really really really important case involving pedophiles at the highest levels of government yeah I wouldn't I would think that that's the kind of guy you whack your also according to the procedure you're not support when there's a suicide there you're not supposed to remove the body and take it to the emergency room is supposed to treat it as though it was a murderer like a crime scene high-profile like even is this is most likely how they did it forever right like people that whack people that they were probably like you know I was doing, before the internet there probably before the internet right do you want to see I found the graphic images blood rushing to his head bro that guy got strangled that looks like a strangled guy that's what I thought they supposedly said it looks very kind of picture on used and it is orange maybe the red doesn't show up. Clean on orange can we look at it again cuz you're probably like I want to say for sure that killed him he's talking to his former soulmates lawyer f****** huge he's a gorilla a straight-up gorilla big Italian gorilla and they put him in jail with that guy, he probably has nothing on it and he's showing the actual lacerations the neck that show clear blood and sits too low in the NET10 what's better population right here if he was if you did what you thought life would have been like leaning forward on the ground at a private have been a little higher under the jaw not down at the base of the neck kind of it from behind oh, man look at his neck hold on though is any of that break actually breaking the skin the thing is it looks like a wire instead of wire me a wire that's why I looked Way Too Thin to be that but that looks like a man too looks like that's more like blood rising to the skin and then an actual cut what I'm thinking to it look before though like it was a cut so maybe there wasn't really that much blood that actually came through the skin and maybe are all that that cloth just maybe it's really thin and it gets down like a wire like if you choke somebody with like a bandana you know like if you had like one of bandanas at hippies put on their dogs and you choke someone to death one of those things I got to think it's going to make a very small Mark only going to make a thick Mark if you like get someone into liking Ezekiel choke has one of those things and f****** like where it was choking you like the actual would that make a mark like that what it looks like if you do do that test in like another piece of s*** make a mark like that I'm sure someone now is going to go to the myth busting like how do what it looks like if you do do that test in like to murder someone to find out the truth just get another piece of s*** but I will find out later today I'm sure the whole thing

so your mom what happens to her today and so she gets only decaf espresso because she loves the taste of coffee but she can't have caffeine those pictures are not to think too much they want Turtles out there choking his daddy probably right it's aluminum plastic but still amitabul that everyone's so gross that all the garbage has to get in the ocean no matter what I don't think that's true I think we need to do a way better job of collecting garbage and treating garbage and treating our own garbage and just come up with a more comprehensive plan to avoid all this s*** getting into the ocean this is not enough funding in Wartime and Greta Thornburg is only 16 she can only do so much is 2 feet of the pigs before they figured out landfills everything everything cuz they could I think wow they told me they were in China and there's a restaurant that has toilet and the toilet was a whole re but in the hole at the bottom of pigs you shiting into a pigsty and the pigs would eat your s*** and this is common cool I'm pretty sure it was Callan what in the f*** are you definitely told me how to shoot into a hole of a Chinese girls house by a man with a baseball bat something about Street oil or some like that like the food was cooked using like that oil from the I almost forgot about you just said that that's the story of them that's what I brought yes yes sewer water they were water cuz they were making cooking oil at a sewer water that is literally people going into the store and turning that s*** water in the cooking oil I know you're saying there's no way it makes sense Asians doing that grossest s*** ever like blood soup view from the inside of a pig toilet so there is a cool things he's a minority Village somewhere in Yunnan Province China the pig follow me to toilet position self under it waiting I was very confused and I start using toilet paper for reasons oh my God cuz it was licking his a****** but now go see if you find cooking oil made from sewage downtown. I know a lot of people equate what no I think it was vice vice had a video on it and it was all about how there is a market for people making cooking oil and he's really poor town they clearly climate of the sewers and they take out humans shed and turn into cooking oil Qatar Royal they call it gutter oil oil and sewage Alyssa cooking oil which has been recycled from waste oil collection from sources such as restaurant fryer grease traps slaughterhouse waste and sewage from sewer drains one of the far-right says Chinese disgusting this is the video that I seen before recycle oil and sewage used to cook Chinese street food Jesus Jesus Christ brother get into the Ali and then they they filter all the poop out and they get the oil these filters did the oil out of poop and then they cook your noodles in that 120 yeah definitely yeah this guy opens up or his woman rather opens up

Richard stuff from Archie or whatever it's called something that started all that propaganda against internet research agency 5G is bad for you so RT isn't she started all this s*** because I guess it's time to phone won't hurt you but Russia wants you to think otherwise okay a network known for salt sewing disinformation has a new alarm the coming 5G apocalypse who's this New York Times they're saying it's probably true then you see what they did to Jank Jank you girl from The Young Turks he was interviewing David Duke and you and they took it out of context in quotes and they wrote that he said to David Duke of course you're not a racist they try to pretend somebody just got to work for their own good cross the line they cross the line they want to stop him stop him until they got over woke they lied that's crazy that's a crazy lie though let's get into the New York Times I wonder what the fault Fallout from that was cuz that's for them that's got to be very embarrassing someone actually printed that they were forced to make retraction but the problem with that is when people hear about stuff like that it you know it's a lot of people obviously working to New York Times a lot of people so it doesn't represent everybody there but when someone gets away with something sneaky like that it really f**** overheard because in all the other people that are making stories people going to go yeah you're the f****** people to shut the drink yogurt said you know David Duke was in a racist when it's clearly always had your f****** magazine strike news it's all bulshit you had a shet newspaper congratulations in a fuel that and the New York Times just have none of that right least have none of that correction do they do is what I would like to know how many people read the correction vs. rather original story that's what gets real weird like if you make something up about someone then put it down or make something interpreted incorrectly on purpose intentionally and then you put it out there how much responsibility does the newspaper have and how much responsibilities that writer have for doing that they probably don't like them they don't want him to do it if you like this guy Matt you know what he meant f****** printed I don't know I don't know what the process was but yeah can't do that if you want us to take it seriously but there's still one of that number one I still do everybody saw it you know the Arrogant so you have to have to pretend that you saw something that wasn't there or either that or you're paying attention so loosely before you write the story that you don't even give a f*** out if I went and got a report in the fight you got a serious job okay sick of your cop you know you got a serious job you're a reporter reporting the actual news go to Serious job cuz you can you can change the way people look at things and it might be a lie and that's that's got into a lot of problems in the past people who think they know better though they know better than what everybody else wants that's it that's where it's real probably think you're doing good by withholding information I think you doing good by censoring people they get your news mostly from like Twitter or something I don't anymore I feel great I forget what it was about it was a story about something and I was like I didn't know that I read into a little bit was in the Wall Street Journal about nearest Bob's a way to look at things but I don't know if you can do that much I don't know what the responsibility is like ultimately to completely pay attention to everything all the time I don't know what responsibilities you have people get mad at you if you don't believe take pay attention to everything except importance all the time and they got a point they have a point but you also have a point for like self-management and for mental management to probably pay attention to less s*** I feel like I feel healthier and happier probably pay attention to that s*** I feel like I'm feel healthier and happier when I pay attention unless yet so when does Iran thinks that me f***** up cuz if something makes me think about it that means it's in the Forefront of the news now it's like big it's a big deal

hey what do we know about the Bounty as all that wood that were looking at before we were looking at something you were trying to figure out what we're trying to figure out was actually true $80 Bounty is that what it was an 80 million dollar bounty on Trump George Lopez jokes will do it for half so funny I guess you're not allowed to say that who brings us Trump said George Lopez says we'll do it for half that's silly Comics has folks that's funny any other time it's you know what man when anybody could be the President right in this is sort of manner is it really the same thing to threaten the president like is it is it the same thing as threatening Lincoln is it is it the same thing to threaten Trump in a joke to threaten a guy just think about it former game show host who's Notre Dame noted baller right character in many many rap songs cuz it was bawling and you like to talk s*** on Twitter you can't make a joke you can make that joke that will do it for half you can make that joke everybody definitely better than it but I can't pretend we're going to kill you even talking about I think you can get in trouble what happened to Kathy Griffin when she showed that rubber head show that Robert Trump had nothing right I did f*** her career up nobody talked to Kathy Griffin's really going to murder Trump right right that might have been important thing it's all so crazy let me ask you both are you guys worried about around. You worried about what was happening are you worried about these military people making joint exercise and that happened what was interesting was going to bring up is that police made some tweets that they're going to like we're watching La is worried there like what are you talking about going to try to kill Trump I don't think they're going to necessarily like broke they kill Trump it's going to be chaos yeah I don't think I don't think they're going to be able to do that I think if anything this is the worst part is already happened maybe I don't think so like you know because it seems like this is the first example of someone being impulsive so I'm making this kind of a decision that maybe strategy experts and real military experts would have had some real good man this is speculative but that they would have some real good reasons what is the terrible idea and there are other methods of working things out that doesn't have to go this way doesn't have to be and this is not a movie this is real life and if you think they're just going to force them out then seems like it's too good to be true for people that hate Trump sort of but then is something happens here's the thing if something happens special something horrible happened see the way America is like we are like we have the genes of this wild conqueror just lust for trap human that was willing to get on a f****** boat and make it over here from Europe and from work every other place and then the slaves that were Dragged In Here against their own will and then the other people that were imprisoned here and they were and then the Native Americans who got pushed out of the Mexicans against Jets this is all thousands of years of jeans right the moment something goes crazy that's what I want stuff comes out like how people were when 9/11 happened everybody had an American flag on there everywhere it became an intense place place where you like you you just that whole break glass in case of War like that's real if someone provokes someone does something where we feel like we're really at War we're going to you tonight we're going to United a crazy way in the thing is a lot of people going to love it and feel great that we're United against an evil cause I mean this is what this is why people have employed that strap convince their people to get in the war and Hitler did it right didn't Hitler he burn the reichstag right that was he did that in order to get people more enthusiastic about his plans I'm pretty sure he did that and I think Nero did that with Rome as well but but I'm an idiot in my memory is faulty Sonos way more than anybody arson attack was performed on the IRA Stock Building 4th Native American book is blood and thunder book is not just because of the news not just but also because of these goddamn books would have talks about the Navy interactions with the soldiers in the settlers and that is in our genes man it just happened people were horrible they did a horrible thing and it shatters this notion that's so many of us love to hold on to that without the Europeans or the Native Americans live peacefully they didn't live peacefully with each other no one ever has the Native Americans slaughtered each other they took each other slave they killed each other they tortured each other the Comanches were for it I mean it's terrific terrific with the soldiers did too horrific with the human beings of that error when forced into that conflict were willing to do and what they were willing to become that is not that long ago man that's why I'm scared I'm scared because I feel like we have come so far it's so safe it's so safe that people don't even like saying that it's safe we like we like to be in denial about it and focus on so much of the inequality and Equity an adequacy all the problems in the violence in the listen to that and they're right about all those things but goddamn is a soft time to live and it should hit the fan you're all going to know that when you're really worried about your life every day when your loved ones really could get shot and killed by someone who's a mile away with a scope because that's what's been going on if that's what it comes down to you're going to understand how soft we had it you going to really know how soft we had it and this is that cycle that everybody says right Hard Times make strong men strong men make easy times easy times make weak men mess is a common it's just how human beings are we needed motivation to kick ass we need we need some reason to rise to the top we need some reason to go out there and Conquer and that were the best reasons if we get attacked we get attack really go crazy going to be horrible I'm really scared like legitimately worried that people some people are losing their grip on what violence actually means and what war actually means cuz it's not happening over here because it doesn't happen over here the only ones I can tell us the one that went over there the ones went over there and come back they do not paint pretty stories they paint stories of ugly people and dangerous people and I like you got to be Village in cuz you got to be diligent and you got to be vigilant because this world is not what you think it is there's a lot of parts of this world that are f****** chaos written and fill with crime and fill with murder and fill with Dad and fill with Despair and there's money there terrorist and there's these religious fundamentalists who want to throw gay people off roofs and that s***'s real that's happening in 2020 right now somewhere in the world there probably planning on throwing a gay guy off a roof because some some person wrote that down two thousand years ago or whenever it was 20 right now somewhere in the world they're probably planning on throwing a gay guy off a roof because some some person wrote that down two thousand years ago or whenever it was

Instagram girl that she got banned from Instagram to the Instagram active check and so she got to like help out she's decided to put out for $10 she'll send you a naked picture in like in like 1 week I think she's made like $700,000 donations for the start selling pictures of me naked then I think it's better to have her back on she's doing good yeah they should real she's read that much money to help the Australian Wildlife come on man the naked philanthropist every $10 you donate equals one nude picture for me to your DM you must send me confirmation that you don't need that girl does not have a lot of hobbies my driver just not have the free time she's hot though that those are definitely real she raised more than $500,000 wow that's amazing better back Instagram come on but she said she was going to give the money to the end she didn't show pictures right it's a shoe they're getting $2 out of every transaction maybe his little white Snapchat has like Snapchat it on how you don't have a PayPal thing and built-in Instagram I've heard them do that for other things that's why a lot of the ad changes were about why they don't let influencers to add thanks anymore cuz you're not getting a piece and they don't like why there are been a bunch of changes yeah whenever you see one of those sponsored ads when opening are you supposed to put #after everything like weird weird weird weird like p*** this wise like p*** the f*** the people in p*** always figure out first how to push the boundaries of the technology like technology when comes like streaming streaming video high resolution video that's pushed a lot of the amount of bandwidth involved in p*** off-the-charts this is like that don't you think version of those sites there's a free version but I don't know how they figured out how you hang out feels things who would go to patio via Siri pervert to see what's available online it's just not enough for my taste somebody we know very well he back early took all those dicks some guys like that you're a bad girl bad girl daddy one more dick Starbucks Coffee to keep paying for it with de Guatemala or something if it was like only one kind of coffee you know what I mean like if you couldn't give a free iced coffees or Emery got a bruise or lesbian coffee

on the carnivore diet table that help your keto right or better way to do it I know it's just all meet just everything's meet I'm not eating and any any grains and I'm not eating any carbs nothing else let me know how I can all of the data Bloody Mary is so fucken up and I'll just not the most strict occasionally I'll deviate allow myself to glasses of wine and most of the rest of shittim just drink the water or skill close to see me kill Cliff carnivores like he died but you're allowed to have fruit or something eating meat like mostly meat and because I eat a lot of wild game after the substitute it have to supplement with fat I'm adding other fats to it while game it does not have much fat and you can when I read about the people that did this in there was a guy that was with the Inuit he was an Explorer in the Arctic and he was talk we live like that for 6 months and it was one of them saw the video somewhere online but is old black and white footage that the key was getting a lot of fat but they were just drinking water and eating meat and they were fine as long as they got a lot of fat they would do it beat like whale blubber and polar bear blubber and they would eat all this blubber to sort of supplement their there they're fat intake be seems very healthy eating like that I'm just doing his experiment they found a guy probably would imagine this is probably about the Inuit diet his thought process and I really respect his mind and when he start talking about all the different medical benefits to be had from trying that he had autoimmune diseases that went away and Mike and I know a bunch of people person to try to adjust a gentleman Exodia yep that's him to the dogs I thought that was really weird because that's definitely been proven to be the that's the guy right there give me some volume on this dude could you that I don't know if this is in The Domain Austin capsule e what he said he just basically said that as long as they had the ones they had plenty of fat I'm just seeing what it feels like it's weird I'll tell you one thing I do not trust my butthole at all my feel far coming on like others could be a disaster rocketing diarrhea from meat that's from all meat yeah this is what dr. Shawn Baker who's like one of the head carnivore proponents is like his whole life revolves around eating steak and deadlifting kind of hilarious and getting people to eat meat and try the carnivore diet and some of them that has a pretty radical health benefits and I'm so curious about that because I know that sometimes people convince themselves that something is better for them and it's something's working better than they feel better and then there's a sort of a placebo effect that can happen when you join a community of people that's also saying the same thing like we're all getting better all feeling better so I was real hesitant when I first went into it I was like okay I need to know if there's there's something to this or this is a nonsense way to eat cuz most of my thought process with this kind of nonsense we each need some Fiber is clearly benefits eating some vegetables it was interesting is the the level of energy your energy level it's like right here stays it doesn't go anywhere it doesn't go anywhere I mean it the other day I'm kind of tired and then I go to sleep that's weird man because how much of your energy levels during the day is based on your body regulating sugar and Insulin how much of it how much is your energy level is based on that it might be a lot this because this is unquestionable difference unquestionable difference is that my energy level basically has a flat line there's no roller coaster anymore and I had less of a roller coaster because I'm pretty healthy and I'm pretty strict with what I eat but not like this this is like this so for the last nine days or so it's been I've had like an olive I had does your body go into ketosis at all but must I mean I mean a lot of that I'm eating bacon with all these Wild game dishes everything I eat bacon with cuz I need fat and I'm cooking everything in beef Tallow and then I'm getting like fatty meat to butter and milk milk the fat everything look mad it's weird I see why people be opposed to it morally and ethically cuz you don't require people to consume a lot more animals cuz everybody's eating meat all the time that consumption the Needwood go up and it'll be even more Slaughter I got it seems like you're going to get really bored quick quick but and I don't necessarily think this I'm just saying if I think this is the best way for me to eat I'm not saying that I'm trying it and I'm basically trying it based on Mark Bell and Chris Bell and even more Jordan stuff talked in-depth with Jordan about it Jordan Peterson is a brilliant guy and when he was describing his experiences with his dinosaur super intelligent well-read art people are Jordan Peterson's done this. I bet it's all really really small amount because socially is unappealing to even say you're going to do it start about taboo you only me oh you can eat all the meat you not if you need any vessels what do you want baby that's what vegetables are good for you right that's what everybody immediately thinks but don't know if it's true though I don't know if that's true one of things is Shawn Baker said to said they were they're doing tests at Harvard with with people who are on this guy for 6 more I don't know I'm interested so did some blood work today and I'll make that blood work public school yeah mean especially if there's anything wacky with it but then imma do it again at the end of the month and I'll compare wow we'll work it out how many ounces of meat a day do you know what you're up to like thing is I have a lot of elk that's good but I'm running through it you know I'm eating some big ass chunks of meat is there something that you go to a lot like chicken wings or something like that just because it's easy no eggs you need eggs are eggs easy something that you go to a lot like chicken wings or something like that just because it's easy no eggs eggs are eggs easy things are great you know I wish that coyotes weren't real news Fox

February 8th I will be gaining weight and you guys will be losing weight at first met at the date me right away and every day so I'm going to get on the 191st. Trump Jamie I remember that I remember those days I know you don't like to lose we play pool and even though I'm a better pool player than REI would give him the 789 we would gamble so play 9-ball and I have to run all the balls of 69 to win or I could win if he sent the 7th the 8th or the 9 soshite Advantage so huge difference if we're play whatever or do you have to do all you have to do is have willpower to stay at 80% your max heart rate for a long time and that's all willpower that's really all it is or if you're smart enough to distract yourself like I figured out how to watch movies that was a big game-changer in the strap watch movies while your on treadmill it was so crazy when you have the flu when you came back from the flu run 13 f****** miles you think I'm too I want you to look at the sandwiches I didn't think of that why you're right what time might have done something little early that we talked about the minute but this stacks of steaks what's the weather tomorrow this is b******* he leaned on my shoulder so we're good for now

friends again oh yeah in the green room I decided to forgive re so that the people I hate know how much I really hate them I like that that was a good one I like what you said in front of my kids and I still forgive them and she cleared out our new house for all the tender bad energy and then I see some darkness in you I told you about it I was dealing with darkness in my head about OCD s*** and I went all right talk what is it that she picked you out in a heartbeat and I went I am not I haven't forgotten I know I called you. she said something to Burnt Chrysler if you it was if you love him you got to fix help fixes Karma it is bad karma for him and I thought I do I did I can't I can't write you off I couldn't think straight every time I was on a hike important to me seeing you in New York when I go to New York and spending time with you is too important to me and I know you I know you so well and I know that you're you're I said to someone I think I've made some I said he's a great guy such a bad person that I know that he didn't you didn't mean to hurt you never meant to hurt me or no and I was like I can't I can't man I'm not in a place to look for new f****** friends I got him he's one of my friends is beautiful 2019 in any other business if you drug Tapia and you did so publicly discuss publicly and yet you are my podcast two weeks later we were howling about it new series results of super not serious as they kicked you out of the, like where you're not getting booked anywhere not a second where you're you're ostracized like this is the Last Frontier for Savages this is the Last Frontier for people that are doing wild crazy stupid s*** and that is one of the wild as crazy as stupid as f****** things you do drug someone when they don't know your dragon meets like a f****** it is the line stepping of all line stepping and we're like I go okay you f***** up I'm not saying anything like Jojo he's like arguing he'll call you up arguing you got to give him he's a good guy you know that you know that it was killer killer killer don't show the fruit okay that's a lie we just joking folks Nei DEA agents or would it be my dearest Brent before I lose my information again World Tour says our friendship is important friendship is more important now that Tom is occupied with the fried pizza this is important to me is Thomas with you by Pizza Hut deep fried pizza it's more important to me than camera that's a felony more important to me than Jose obsession with killing animals just speak from the heart just just just say it just tell him how you feel was more important to me than anything even more important is important more important than Joey tell me sorry I wrote some funny stuff friendship is more important to me than like penalized living without you be worse than Tony Hinchcliffe looking without the mirror bulb is bad of him blowing Joe Rogan Jeff Ross f***** in the ass thanks I will in no you said Joe is just big my heart I like my pranks I like doing fun stuff and I thought the same thing I do with Luis Gomez wherever like he had this great announcement for for skankfest seems like I'm going to ruin that and I'm going to do it by like I thought I'll give you what you love doing which is great content for your fans I know you're never going to leave it podcast but like it was the best podcast I didn't all the fall that was going to happen I know your friends you have two kids will come home and say you know that I got raped that you got raped by all I don't know why I want to know the prank first I'm going to do somebody in a podcast on acid or Molly and I was like who can I do it to you know I thought of Luis Gomez first but I was like he's worthless my friends and I see someone who parties so can't be used to faggets don't you know and then hit me but I will do that with Burt that was my thought and I know people telling you what I thought you were weak that's the farthest thing from the truth I thought you were fun but I'm if you forgiven me but I won't do this for like sometimes people do something and they understand not it's not that they did with bad intentions is just that they f***** up and I didn't want I didn't think about it like you having to f****** run interference with me against your wife it's like I'll tell you right now so hard enough time to the biggest thing that that f****** up about it yeah the biggest thing was to take care of you I knew they had a new the all the implications of what was about to trickle down and that was the one thing I was like why why would you make my life more time, Kaden and I told you on the phone and by the way no one said this other than me I said this to myself and I've to this to Joe a million times is that that moniker of like you think I'm weak but it's my biggest f****** thing of like people to go in my head and I would go I know Joe doesn't say that note on doesn't say that and I know you don't say that but in that moment I was like you doing with these enemies do to me where he just thinks I'm some f****** week comic just ripped his shirt off right thing and when you when I was on the phone with you I was in Connecticut house with Shane in the car and I told you that and you said oh my God I would never I would never do that for me to go I can get past this and then it took a little bit to just go still mad though no I thought is just reward like dezarie bring more to my life than that one stupid f****** moment right now and I said you don't know that I don't show that maybe enough of you be bringing a lot to my life and all you guys do friendship means a lot to me means a lot more to me maybe that means you guys sometime he's allowed to me to man does this podcast that we do this regular podcast we do some of my favorite dark stripe on the chat thread agricultural both of these guys were very very valuable to me and I was Super Bowl nipple both of them had a moment where was fun and then I'm aware they called me and they were concerned I still thought it was fun until it was like Anna tomczyk serious and you guys went on the Christmas party and he drugged somebody that's the end of your f****** career Man 3 drugs free drugs also wanted really bad if you guys make up everyone call you call him I know I'm not a victim I know that this is going to be fine. Call Whitney I talk to Whitney about it like you no, please no no no we were we were in the green David Spade are you like I've got a great story for David Spade I've always been attracted to him and this is my moment super compelling content people for their kids shoes like I'm sorry I didn't say that I didn't say that to you in the green and the thing I didn't know how you felt and I saw Joe file that's also a Tom felt is that like I didn't I didn't know how I felt so I bought all these energies of like I got drugged and then everything's on the table and everyone's like I got to figure out your f****** emotions and I haven't figured them out yet when you lean on friends and you come out of a place like that you go in a weird way I was like fuel lot closer the four of us after that and I'm like I'm definitely not going to happen but now that he's got to do it for the rest of his life cuz he didn't win we're always going to do sober October help no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah give me for my children. What truck did MDMA it's used to be f***** up his brain for like weeks that would be Tottenham place where he is today. Com equalizer mood and I meant to bring it with me and I didn't and I f***** up hard I pride myself in the dosing people the right way and he has his head as there's a reason more beautiful in on my deathbed with seconds of memories to your life I hope I see Joey Diaz like Jesus cry like Buddha just going

things that James Wilks from the game changers told me what are doing those regenerative Farms where they have these free-ranging chickens in this how we going to get our eggs he told me they were losing like thousands and thousands of chickens to Eagles but insane amount of death Eagles realizing it everyday just swoop in and get a chicken they're so easy they can't even fly and they're all in one is one pending area all-you-can-eat buffet bald eagles prey on Farmers chickens apparently when Eagles find out where your chickens are your f*** man cuz coyotes at least you can have dogs 2.2 million oh my God farmer wins case case against after losing 2.2 million dollars worth of chickens to Bald Eagles chickens 260,000 260,000 chickens to Eagle how crazy is that Eagles Eagles know you can't f*** with them that's a difference of a coyote eat your chicken you can shoot in the dick nobody cares everybody wants you to shoot coyotes your kids kill your cat but Eagles that's America bro you can't shoot an eagle bald eagles so I can couldn't do anything about that I guess or is it because they're very end there are United States bird like you know they were trying to lose one thought at one point time of making a puppy the United States bird are denied animal animal it was a pitbull I think Pitbull yeah it was in the early the early days of the country and I was like recently so they're protected with their of least concern Alaska is where the big amount of them transferred to a list in 1995 transfer to the list of endangered species was removed in Elizabeth dangered and threatened wildlife in contiguous states on June 28th 2007 there flying monsters that's our bird you see the one video of that the Eagles I think it was like a cow and they're just like rolling down the hill Kahn goat off the Rocks Bashas as brains in on the on the rocks on the way down a rough rides and down to even got f***** up a little bit like what is some what was the sorry Eagle I got Spurs Robbinsdale ready to get that picture of the lighting so different number one animal I mean it's such a emotionless ruthless Beast like a wolf would be so much better. Cool I'll give you some of this Richard Buffalo we can all eat bro you tell me when other f****** assholes are coming by I'll keep you hooked up a buffalo there's that photo somebody posted like half wolf half timber wolf seeing if you mix it with a husky you know their big man and some huskies are big so that's how much wolf does it say yeah look at the size of that thing that it's a Colorado know that a collar looks like a color 70 going around over the break with the guy has a pet tiger and it comes out of me just like sticks his hand in his mouth. It doesn't his pets

Tell me story about how we had to take a s*** so we took a shet in the in the bathtub and then he had a small s*** with his foot to get it go down the drain and all wouldn't go down it doesn't use the toilet dude the beach in front of the water they didn't land on the water never really flushed like it was like if you fed a puppy too many treats a puppy to happen to some dogs is when they're babies and try to eat their s*** until he was shiting and trying to eat at the same time so it's been around a circle and try to bite it as it was coming out of the hole they was trying to eat it right out of them right over that he told me one time he was about shooting in the shower I did all time I think he's bucking it gets it in the shower but he's like yeah it's like a log I just s*** and then I just tossed it to the toilet and I was like you stop this is so f****** revolting did you say you had to do it one time more but I have one of those you know those handheld yeah and I just had patch to live in Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania nice to go to drive to visit them from the city oh my God is a stressed that you drive it's all just cattle ranch is just horrible smell I'll be there in get 100% and apparently you can they can do something about that of the just a certain amount of seaweed to a cow's diet and smell is the change in smell that you know but everybody else not bad I didn't even food tonight I love Indian food first time ever had I never had any food when I was in Russia we got lap dances from these strippers and they'd all eating Indian food I've never lied ever smelled Curry before walking the restaurant logo did that and that's why it doesn't affect you as much as someone else's because there's something in your eyes like there's something in your brain triggers like that you're having a relief it's like there's a buildup in and it smells smells like cuz it signifies the relief that you fart in a pillow and take it to the face I love my part at your bed and your wife is in the bathroom like oh my God well I do things like I'll do like leg kicks as I fart or I'll pull my legs back like I'm change my diaper kind of position she doesn't like it at all she doesn't like it at all today farted for like like 12 real life easily and I don't you f****** tell me so I can record it give me a hundred fifty thousand. you think you have one fart yeah yeah I saw her just turned I go I think she might and you know the beauty of these things is like pull it out and I just hit the camera from the lock screen and then she said no did you see that camera flash like babies fart in the McDonald's cup and I put my hand over it and I went I do be do scream I go girls I just caught a butterfly and then like what rotten just like a rotten I was across like the lobby from him in the club you look like a brick to the face we were in Japan I thought you was talkin to me

using toothpaste again what went in that part of this in the story you're my love you're you're you're playing catcher you throw the ball to make the player at what the batter has already okay and now he brings them back into my mouth like he just brought it back into my mouth I might eat her on home plate that you want to get real about this this isn't you want talk about parenting my dad came out he's like buddy it's going to be okay your mom's here big birthday party party platform is my birthday and he came out and in his hand he had my Fielder's glove and I went I was like trying to go take off the gear is going to catch go over to shortstop and I was like teeth go finish getting a bad guy but he was like pay the f****** cry go out finishing is one out it's one out and then we'll take it off bottle so whenever to shortstop I don't know stuff like that I think turns you stuff like that teaches you makes you stronger you did it cuz they're certain things I got walked out I meant I remember being it that's not like I suck it up, that's her know it's over the game's over. the game I mean I don't want to give you some Tito's but you know he blasted off because you weren't that bad who can I see who won the game have no idea I was there I went to the doctor doctor Boza spent the rest of the day in the get my teeth fixed how long it take for the fix your teeth. Grade in college everything was fixed and 11th and 9th grade I had like with it took like three years for you to smile you're comfortable with yeah so what was it before then just was like it was like spotty caps like 40 that looked okay I mean the people listening right now that are going through this but you just cover your smile at times and you don't enjoy life as much as I know right

February 7th and 8th I will at the end of that special start gaining weight first one that passed me when Raw Deal a very very attractive and I believe you Pikachu wow who's got a scar in a place like that already come on oh s*** I'm right there that's the one I fell in love with sweetie for a day or a couple days that doesn't help anybody that doesn't know what if you could keep it off that's the hell is your thing what keeps you eating like what is your what's your advice for me it's pasta is carbs when I when I eat a lot of carbs it's just like focker can't help myself sometimes yeah I would say it's probably carbolated like I like rice red Pasta House pasta I love it I'm not a crazy sugar for next week 2 are you able to stuff that I just keep eating and I don't really do that as much anymore I used to I used to do that all the nice think that's how meals were completed like every meal but that's like I would say at my worst but I don't think I really like that most of the time now but I don't you know I'm not like weighing everything is much as I should you know so you could just cut back your portions because she probably still be fine you probably wouldn't feel like you're denying yourself anyting yeah they so yeah well I understand my problems weight loss I don't understand yours usually boots what is yours from not drinking you b207 you're on 205 doors knocking that it yeah but I don't know what like top because Tom does not like we've had dinner a bunch of times that's my order do you guys put in your order sushi or the births Sushi experience with Ralph is my favorite story of the and his wife and like birds or aliens or Ralphie's wife Ralph is paying all the time for meals for men in Hawaii I know I'm paying for it but he just ordering he's like I got this player and I was like alright cool and he just kept ordering ordering and I'm eating then I'm drinking and then people might like you tell the story it makes me laugh for meals and then you just like I'm going to buy dinner not tonight my night but you're not in a position to take this bill, so like they bring the bill and it's a f****** for figure built this is over $1,000 Sushi experience and then you insist on paying and Leanne Manas how much is it like a go fuc yourself Bayport plant and I'm looking at like a f****** $1,500 bill $1,200 and $50 the money in the bank account to pay for the tip I don't like that cuz I would do the same thing I'm taking advantage of you I want you to know that I'm your friend and I want to pay for things to motherfuker yeah that was a bit and then he goes Lee and I rated me storms off. I remember is we were the couple in the lobby fighting like you you can't even like staying for the hotel for me and it was not a drop in the bucket $2,000 5 hours like a really like you read a book I remember sitting next to me read a book store. Remember he was Newton has Burt the dice

Brothers Market South African a rough bro we were in South Africa what the f*** are you doing you're going to get every kid that's in your soccer ball use all get f****** murdered on the way home to some of the children was like sorry I got a belly everyone Bob Marley the other ones dark dark dark f****** badass right I'm outside having coffee with my little eye something guy come sprinting down the street and a mob is chasing him and I'm like what the fuc in our handlers like oh yeah because I heard about these pillow necklace him because I just this year they put a tire around his neck and light him on fire I go for a f****** pillow I was like all right we're done I'm getting the f*** out of here I'm not spending another risk take a bath in Brazil and got lost I would like what and I like don't no matter what they say don't stay if you were going to spend the night great a great there's one fella luxury hotel do they look great hotel in a fella that like traveling you remember more on channel because we're doing so much different s*** and you were drunk we found a soccer game with these kids and it was like the buildings started at like this is with a camera crew know we didn't have camera Crews we got lost me in the two Travelers got lost of Jesus he brought guests and we gout and I was like those go back to the hotel Leveque Hotel view of best view of Brasilia Brazil before use a champ I think that's why they didn't know he was already there one on one nice place and and I guess he thought he could beat him in a one-on-one did you say you saying again nice place and and

the difference is that how many people are fans and how many people just flipping through channels nothing else on detour and he was like it was right as that said that the state has its right as his Netflix show is about to Air and he gets in big trouble because he's on Stern Louis first Down syndrome play keeps saying he thinks that's better because you think Down syndrome is okay to say but regarded as bad cuz it's so he's like a bunch and they're about to launch the show so of course like you know everybody involved is like panicking like you like the new show launching you got it you got so he goes on The View and he's like yeah he is eating mints like a zit popping them in his mouth sorry about that wild man do you remember the time right before the election where you had a vape pen that was really strong and Norm came back anyway he was not ready I got him a smoked weed a lot they just do it occasionally remember what we did it was nuclear smoked with him one time in a parking lot in Irvine right before I was with Ryan sickler Ryan always has good weed and and we met norm and we're about to go in and he smoke dude he's like such a comfortable, click with many like he doesn't need like some time alone to get my mind right before this they were in the parking lot he takes a f****** monster hit of strong weed and he starts coughing like cough and enough to make like you know like a tear, really and then we walk into the Irvine Improv and they're announcing he just walks on stage and you start talking about the soda he's drinking and killing with it like just off the top of his head just totally not too comfortable he's one of the funniest guys ever the little bit I write a note saying and I looked at my call Stanhope maybe one of the most mind-bending days of stanza just when you said that smell thing for you to bring those bait what the f*** stand up one day and he was like who you doing news I got drinking vodka and grapefruit rind grape grape juice is it going to tell you what I got these couple knock-knock jokes and I was like yeah why the f*** are we f****** with the format and then Norm Eisen Norm Norm has the best joke I'mma tell you the joke is that great it's the best he still doing it no Norm this was like why aren't we going where are we right now neighbor says I'm a professor of logic down at the University of Science versus what's that is normal talk to me explain it's easier me just show you what I do Norm a dog house you heard the woman because I am then logically I can assume you're a straight white male I normally wow that's amazing the next day indoors download bus stop having a cigarette she's another one of his neighbors neighbors cuz the new neighbor because yeah did Professor of logic you must be a Faggot but like what if we could do it at a bit and what we're doing now we all stepped away from but like what if we could tether ourself to edit a bit and what we're doing now Norma does that work normative stuff like that

the last few weeks we've been getting these annoying text messages from re-wear everything's in Spanish everything everything going with a backpack on zero it does sound like a lot of it's pretty close have this conversation TV Guide what is Madre but if it's parent is a dress right what I make do if there's a gate and I like she was like nah. Rogers and then you know that's okay these days with wokeness 0% homosexual population people that are outside of the control of the government that are just freely speaking but they're talking about homosexual problems in like p**** Riot Member One p**** Riot selling like a point from them that that it's their trying to be Progressive thinkers like some of them like Disgaea does that but they're definitely they not f****** around to government agency made it tweet about freedom of the press about respecting respecting the press and appreciating depressed and someone some Journal said this is a country that has literally like this Administration is really been responsible for the murders of dozens of people that are there journalists like when people report on them or people with running running against certain members of the government for sure I kids like we want to go to of the convent and ask some questions that I asked where I was in college I got member asking them about black people and they were like oh no no no I'm thinking a Roy Woods I don't think so SF smiles yeah yeah yeah you put it on put some of it online I bet Gaffigan has two E's and shows f*** it everywhere everywhere nobody plays more places in Jamaica

no it was like 30 of you just sitting there and you all came from eating a different countries have a bacteria and I was like the creepiest guy Craig I think was his last name he's the one who said when Clinton was in trouble he was like Clinton has been a very naughty boy dare I say I've nasty boy Larry Craig wide stance arrest turns 10 given the paperwork officer misconstrued his actions listen to water see what happens if you really the mean it's really didn't do this I recently got busted he was a pastor and he got busted trying to pay for gay sex with an Arby's card and Arby's card an Arby's car to pull the wrong car to an ark too or to an undercover officer prostitution in the gay community is a different animal what's the bad this f****** truck is old guys they want to f*** young guys and these young guys do want to f*** them but these young guys don't have a car right yeah I know what's up Turn The Runaway Guys before they had these ways to meet up Craigslist lcub H man Bill Hader still must have been like if you had like a certain color handkerchief that meant what you were into your back pocket there's a day at Florida State if you were blue jeans Blues no sorry I didn't have anything else to wear district and I saw dude can't be alive anymore hits miss those days or a zebras like it was off f*** fast I've been a lot of guys got into musicals that didn't even like music

how did you respond when you saw yourself gets stabbed I was a little confused and then I was like really was that bucking jet black hair hair is so ridiculous to in the sky Murray's birthday was Viking it was killer you know that one day when I burn 6000 calories you like what the fuc I do you will you will break the Two of Us in half crying laughing it's just one day on your own you film Sundance video that's better than ours and you realize them up good keep going like that that's it that's exactly we're talking about yeah just take a weekend or weekend this is awkward crying laughing, crying you guys got to do nope not doing it I learned how to dance with a zookeeper movie it was a long two weeks of learning and I I got to dance with Leslie Bibb who's hot and cool I'm cool you're cool alright

remember on MTV that had a show called true true life and there's a guy that got calf implants do you remember that by any chance I would always like those guys and be like I'd rather not have it then do what this bird like inside of you this did the real problem with that it's the same thing that happens to some women when they get breast implants the answer their ass now there's new instances of ass cancer that are directly caused but his ass implant that ass implants that is obviously probably the more important statistic I think that I don't think they look good more permissible forgivable in a way to say like this woman getting breast implants you go like okay if I like if a guy's likes hack in plants and and that's the only reason no one wants to confess that I've been got killed himself all really look at that fight HIV positive with PEC implants. Looks horrible Merkin people a decision from over George Foreman which is a substantial Victory but he's like the chicken of boxing text him on the right hand side hiv-positive all f***** up oh my God yeah he looks like he was he was falling apart his life was over I mean he would just Young Old Man someone do a documentary on chicken who's a good box or a really good box and then you got famous from that Rocky movie and then his whole life fell apart so good that movie battery clip go help the title forever and don't give a fuk an American but that's him in the movie but in real life he was a very good boxer up until the time they did that rock my body was I think p**** was just like they're putting p**** and slingshots oq that up cuz it's one of the most brutal knockout just queue up Ray Mercer KO Tommy Morrison it is f****** horrible I mean it is one of the worst cuz he gets Tangled in the ropes if you had known I was watching with my friend Kevin we're at a bar and we were watching it and go just go to the part where it gets ko'd again it's f****** rough man he gets cranky before that before that way before that he gets so he gets before just go right before this so Ray Mercer he started getting tired and Ramos it catches them in the corner and he unloads on him and Tommy Morrison's arms get tangled in the Rope so we can't go down like who this series Tangled in the Roe Buck bro I mean is one of the worst case I ever remember seeing that me Ray Mercer was a murder appeal off on him he was an Olympic gold medalist and lights top hits I'm scared to get in there and bring Marsha was back then like no one's cherimoya because they were supposed to have a boxing match this is why they wouldn't allow it to be a boxing match because Ray Mercer was a world champion Olympic gold medals did Tim Sylvia did not have an MMA fight or did not have a box by a very high-level MMA fighter so they just buddy was past prime so they decided to have you call that an MMA fight Ray Mercer was I thinking you know it was already way past Tim Sylvia's Prime Tim Sylvia when he was young he was a f****** animal is the one that let his arm get broken in the front and then like later to tayto's like are they supposed to like wear their belts out and goes no he just does that

what how good is that gig that's great gig what the f****** no scouts made a lot of hot yoga Mentor oh yeah where to get paid good ass now I'm in the 70s all you had to do was just like be there not be huge asses didn't mean anything CVS Holly Brady smell how do you do that oh my God no no no no no Daisy Dukes right now I am I was like we do you like big at like it was so for me I was like like that well yeah it's not that long ago but it is a guy who's like 6 with three with a big chest and big arms and a six-pack of a big hog man is asses yes no was it us yesterday that was f****** insane those like I never would have been into that is a kid we shall meet Jamie says Jane Fonda Chrysler country of Seltzer is that the girls got the most insane f****** ass on Instagram anymore who's a good Jen Selter exoticos who got the most insane f****** ass on Instagram finally talking about she's one of them but there's no one girl anymore

good things at the reason that Thomas how do you charge your guys he found Tom through his assistant Charlie yep and then I met when I met you it was at a show about opening the best I was the MC he was the Middle where was the middle in NJ was the headliner immediately within like f****** 5 Seconds, like within 5 seconds I remember he walked in and in times like I'll come on James Lake book about it yet what and then I go in and then tells me I got you guys want to National Championship with over there and I was like he's so was like I just mention like a player I don't know whatever I was like the Derrick Brooks there he's like College I went to the gas station and they had a single cassette single of Brooks and Dunn and I went oh wow our two biggest players released a single cat door and it's got to be good right I'm a big fan of hip-hop so I bought the single of Brooks & Dunn country western band what song goes like this is not bad I'm a fan of the guys in New York descend into the State of Florida and said I want to finish college and they give you the books that they give the prisoners send them to me in New York I just had to read the books and repairs you like I do I was imprisoned a good fantasy for me Calypso many bricks yes I would think I think I'm pull up

totally f****** nude and piss great I'd rather people think I look up to 180 3.6 on the carpet I don't trust carpet on these scales if you like worked out really hard you have a good artist that I learned it sober October Tom kept having to say this to me over and over again is that what makes ReRe is not going for hog like like it's it's not like I'm going to wait till the 4th quarter that really turned on your confidence he goes in with it would think you like I've never in my life I know they're hard to do and I can't hear you how do you get on it right you go now I can't I need to work harder if you go to work harder I can't shoot a bow and arrow approach I want to learn that I want to bust my ass want to do that I'm the opposite way when I go to give me a shot let me try this right now and then work really hard at getting good at things otherwise you're just bullshiting yourself in the door that gets you hurt if your fighter that you really heard about me is really interesting thing about your background is what informs that opinion you just Express and his experience is that saying that sometimes works out like that's why he keeps saying who will say I can go but you worked you will be so beautiful as Will Smith discovers me what the fuc Yeah Sarah want to run a marathon I do it and then I go and then I was like easily with no worries I absolutely

the really f*****-up part about it is it's almost like what we're talking about football that football be safer if there was no helmets it doesn't make sense to be safer if they were a state-issued if you apply for funding for support you're going to school like I'm alone or the state paying for you to go to school you go Fellowship you should be able to apply for a state-issued prostitute if you are a little socially awkward we haven't had sex because men get weird if they haven't been made privy to the way a woman is or they haven't had SEC and going to college let's get you a prostitute let's get you having sex twice a week so you're not afraid of women let's get you a little less weird let's find a prostitute well I think you could didn't have the social stigma behind it there's a lot of people that would choose it over working at Wendy's woman saying I want to do this with my body that's what's upsetting that is sort of that but it's also well in this country it's also connected to sex slavery we think of it as like if someone is doing that that maybe maybe they are a sex slave like maybe there's someone who's I think that's left on people's radar to do with the puritanical idea of New England Patriots massage parlor in the game of Happy Ending and then actually know that they arrested him and told him that there's a video of it and you know they're trying to get him to plead guilty and all these different should have gone on to a guy who's like insanely insanely wealthy who just going there to get your top one of them that they said was that it was that he was participating somehow and sex trafficking until they were accusing him of that they were that was a big part of what the police were saying what turned out that none of the girls that were there were sex traffickers there just prostitutes and the woman that did it to him she was like four years old using that term to the recusing him of this thing and using that term like to DeBrands yes consequences that you would want someone to face whether they just wanted to get your thoughts for they participate in sex slave with you so because there's a demand for it there is a supply so that is by a large part of the issue and I say this not knowing a ton about sex lately but I do know that if you take away the stigma and you can normalize things very quickly weed is a great example right you could do that and even we've done this with women and bodies in the way that we look at people who are overweight and we look at people with different things aguiar a place where it's less of a thing I think it was prostitution and it's fine and look at it as like this is her choice and if there if there wasn't an extension demand for it wouldn't be a thing at this point in time we have made tremendous progress by venting Technologies and also Eventing institutions and on the other hand are human ability to to collaborate effectively in large numbers which includes the corporation which is very effective way for people to work together now all that program has always has also had its negative side effects which are most bananas it'll be longer and we take too much out of its then nature can replenish with the fission on the other hand we have two plastic going into the environment Etc so many questions about how do we solve that and one hand is to say okay maybe we should consume less races are bad allergies bad we should all get rid of all those things and modern environmental movement which is very kind of this Romantic Movement has this image of back in the day everything was great to live in harmony with nature so let's get rid of all this modernity and try and return to that pure original fit what I however believe is that possible that I don't think it's realistic thing Thompson Cigars and people want to move forward and at the same time I don't think it's pretty the most effective way to to solve these problems because it would be like fighting a leopard tank with the bow and arrow truly believe that we should embrace those those forces that make us human them and has created an amazing wealth to also try and solve these these negative side effects as well and that's why I believe now the over cuz jumped over cuz I'm still station not going to end my people all becoming vegan but rather through fake Meats I think that the transport emissions are not going to be solved by people flying anymore or not going anywhere anymore realistically people are going to fly more so you better event technologies that allow people to do that without harming the environment and now the same thing I think it would be the Case 444 for plastic and really other energy uses as well Japanese face with me on the corner of outside my wrestling coach he helped me out a lot and I cannot go and I tell him all the time like this dude is 125 lb in 1915 tall guy what event was at but was doing Sunday is a big thing and it was at a party and then just one Asian dude it's just I getting all crazy in people's faces I can take crazy drunk in his face and I told my friend punches I tell him at some guy how to crack him but I'm scared I'm not going to put them to sleep I know if you punch him he's going to go knock out but you go ahead he's a smaller than a Google I even one time and we was at home like he walking and his drunk guy and there's like three of those four or five of us and he's the smallest guy in the back and we're all walking in like almost in line and it's big. He like he slips everybody little guy last key bump some hard and I looked at him like he goes to little guy I told him I was hanging with his new guy this guy just hanging out with us I told him that is the wrong guy to bump into cuz out of everyone here he probably one punch Knock You Out the Bronx Zoo I'm in like the 18 hundreds of the early 1900 a pygmy what year was it that long have not been civilized how we view the world today with inclusivity and objectivity and care and you know kindness towards others like his compassion and altruism on a global scale 45 years after slavery what the f*** guys so bronx.zoo yet speaking in are like weird Cryptid realm remind me of something so get this chupacabra has been attributed to the possibility that there are thylacine in North America and shears what supports that there is documented proof that however many years ago I don't remember the dates there were two breeding pair of thylacine Bound for the Bronx Zoo and the boat crashed into the shore and most of the animals Escape including the two breeding pair of thylacine fast forward 10 15 years you start having these Chupacabra sightings pop up in the Northeast and these animals were adapted to living in Tasmania which is a pretty similar climate to the North American Northeast and so there's people that have kind of drawn these parallels and said oh the chupacabra that we reported running around you know the United States is actually a tiny Remnant population of the thylacine that were brought here for the Bronx Zoo this what you buying this import export laws about Wildlife you know you could just bring in whatever you like if you had money you know what's to say that everybody was in a race to collect stuff for zoos and museums like what's to say somebody didn't bring some in a sort of new Nietzsche Marx who said God is dead but Mark's basic human beings are the masters of their own fate and all of these guys who basically took God out of the equation and all of them were basically saying that animals and God isn't it God is no longer here where animals and if you don't quit Society control our animalistic impulses we're going to f****** Slaughter and rape each other and World War 1 proved all the skies right physically but it was a time when they're worth that everything's up in the air and comes along and says time and space not so fast it's actually relative start a stopwatch and that's what noon said but actually a good luck trying to work your way through that the one where when you go if you go fast enough into space and then come back everybody here will be old and you'll be the same age what he was walking and where was he and he gets off the the train and he's walking away from the train station he turns and looks at the clock and the clock says let's say 6 internal wait hold on I was walking away from the clock so when I saw the clock it said 6 but that's how long it took for light to get to my eye by the time that I hit my I was actually later cuz the light has to hit my eye for me Jim sent back to fraction was he still but I wonder like when you say time stands still but it's got it list if you're alive it's God exists somehow biologically your body's not going to stop heart beating and breathing right so like how many heartbeats do you have in you and that's part of what life is life is like you get a limited number of heartbeats if you wanted to run break it down right how many of them are you going to use where you going through Lightspeed those don't count your going to beat your heart going to beat right so how long is it going to take in real-time down on Earth while you're up there cuz I think it's going to be like where you're moving so fast that it feels like 10 I'm going to beat your heart's going to beat right right so how long does it actually take in real-time down Earth while you're up there cuz I think it's going to be like will you moving so fast that it feels like 10 minutes cuz it is 10 minutes to you and then you come back you've only age 10 minutes but it might be 10 years down here

the war in Europe all the countries involved what was the what was the size of the landscape were looking at in TuneIn like relationship the United States when you look at France Germany and England like what is that the European part of World War 1 & 2 how much what I was thinking is like it's almost like having a war inside America right really close I think I think of you if you if you take France Spain Italy you know Germany Poland all those areas if it in Rhode Island hungry Austria all those Bulgaria Romania World War 1 map 40 maps that explain World War 1 that that whole area became a theater for dude, I'm on my third wild west book in the last couple weeks really yeah yeah about the history of the bar Westmont play this one of my tits up blood and thunder yeah blood and thunder an epic tale of the American West it's about Kit Carson and then the mountain man yeah tribes in the chaos and the way they would kill people oh my God it's so crazy I don't think it was a Kit Carson one it was the the one on General Custer General Custer was the last one which was Son Of The Morning Star that was the last one I was reading bro Native American guy f*** this other guy's wife so he he tries to get them to can't get them eventually find someone day kills him eat his heart Cooks is heart comes back and tells her better than marriage the lady what you got to eat a man's heart cuz you impose his will on imagine you're married married your woman you're married to a guy this other dude wants to f*** you he killed your husband and eat his heart and then you said getting his pee pee big boy that's that's pretty f****** gangster that's pretty funny because the guy loved you I'm going to eat his love for you because he cut two fingers off of his hand because he couldn't get to her and he loved her so much and was angry that he couldn't kill anyone win her over will he must have won her over cut two fingers off his hand before he got there and then found a guy Africa two fingers officer killed the guy everybody ate most of the heart that's a stalker I need to start a just remember like when we used to have those terrorism colors like today yellow no worries member of the flag yeah that's it from 1917 paper in London made this this is explaining the battle area only in Colorado was trench warfare 2 if you look at World War 1 it was a time when first bought the world hadn't been Europe end in the war for a hundred years so when people went into War and World War 1 they were I mean they went in every young man volunteered and even women volunteered to be nurses and songs never going to be gone for 2 weeks and it was going to be really excited and it was romantic and and no one including the soldiers really understood the technology like machine guns and and that kind of technology and mustard gas and they didn't know they were still fighting the way they had been fighting for Millennia which was on Horseback feathers in their helmets and charging with great bravery and so it would have they would charge and the other side would open up with machine guns and an artillery and then ultimately poison gas and so the numbers are too staggering to even imagine but like for 800 yards to try to capture that much land do whatever they would lose they lost something like three hundred thousand men in a day it was beyond like the number of men that were lost her foot I remember I had to ask three times cuz I couldn't believe it and because they were just so you're you're arrogant commanders would blow a whistle sometimes it would kick a soccer ball and you would follow the soccer ball over the ditch and run as they were shooting it and you'd and if you didn't you'd be tried for cowardice so not to be shot by your commanding officer in the back your head cuz remember conscripted they were brought in against their will from you know who this was the time of imperialism when the country that was bigger and stronger the austro-hungarian Empire Austria so would come in and say you belong to us now there was a secret alliances that would happen and so that battle was so insane and they it was just it was a true meat grinder it was a true meat grinder and then you have no man's land right so you have no man's land and that was the area where they would they would come in that you know they had to cross menu hear them dying and groaning but nobody can get to them it was the f****** it was the worst man it was a worst and in those trenches the body parts and everything and then in the people have to go to bathroom there and then the rain would come you were living in a gutter it would be on what people can imagine it would be on it was the most horrific thing in the only thing that was worse was something called World War II which is a continuation of that first European Civil War and and I don't know man it's it's beyond what we can wish sell for less than a hundred years time like that yes sir that's the one person's lifetime in a world where is where the idea of where ideas can be so dangerous this idea that human beings are blank slate and they'll that you can make them anything you want you can re-educate them in a camp and they'll be what you want this is the history of of your opinion and those ideas lost ground that's why the individual it's so f****** important for the individual take precedence over the state this is also why it's so important for people to be able to express themselves that's what I mean for people to but Fidelity to the state and a fascist Society in in in the deli to the state the collective must be superior to the individual the individual your tiny leaf on a tree if you have a society like that somebody's going to run that somebody's going to set that Doctrine in the end they will justify killing 2039 Empower Hitler by many accounts seem to genuinely enjoy World War he enjoyed it and then he got blinded by mustard grass and he couldn't believe Germany surrendered he couldn't believe it and a German physician there's one record of the German physician saying characterizing Hitler as follows again this is from Buck Wholesale Electric it said this person is not fit to and humans and is a n is dangerously psychotic and because of a lot of crazy reasons he was able to start the join the Nazi that he's working that he actually started as a minder for the German army with the mind about the so a guy who spied on subversive groups like a rat cross the Nationalist Socialist Party National Socialist Party and you know what

you watch a boxing or any combat sport really this guy that hit the slab and look super Champion zones and that's where Crawford is why I need to fight off Spencer's yes that's where lomachenko is how is Earl Spence alive and not injured he doesn't get crushed I don't care that's fine little gave me all about people to get as far as you did sound he's a beastman the way shut down Mikey Garcia I was like would happen if Jamie came at me right now so I can act got asked me what would happen if Jamie came out you meet him halfway exact same problem I've been having and it happened from him on those f****** the the hoverboard thing oh no foul on the concrete right out here broke his butt are you in the new Mickey Rourke movie on Wade play Everyday was going to one of the greatest

York people out there that actually want credit for coming up with an idea that didn't come up with your own people that want like like showrunners right that step in after someone created a pilot and they say I want created by credit and then I'll run shutdown I knew a dude who submit a script to a major Hollywood production company they turned them down and then they went ahead and made the movie they made the movie it was a blockbuster with big-time Stars he sued them he one and he got his name on the book on the movie add some s*** to it right but you're supposed to have a deal you're supposed to use called don't take what doesn't belong to you don't be a f****** thieving kind don't be at The Expendables yeah I don't know if this is true could have been a big giant lie some was on adderal and you started lying to me my favorite one of my new favorite person is a guy named Sly Stallone but have to have them on f*** is that look at picture I told his daughter take that picture and I just got cuz I wanted to jump in while they're all doing that in a row behind empathica Stallone's hair that is preposterous looks so good oh he does interview and wants for Spike TV on it was hilarious heckled going out of my chest man I feel weird you know what to do with all this is hilarious f****** Frank about me man puppies as he's pointing to his insane paintings that he's made himself if I wanted to buy like if you sell these goes yeah Google can you give me a ballpark figure in this ballpark figure I went out that's live your life and your goal should be having enough money so it seems reasonable to buy Stallone Panic that's what I want to be your your wife it's so good that supposed to be him I looked and I looked at Guerrilla when I got mad I went hey I'm a f****** loser I got to get myself together I got to do something on then the guy does a lot of s*** is that did he take a G-Pen himself anybody else play the character when he was nobody he's got balls of steel took a video of me script in his in his office I wish I wasn't there I would have ran to that wall like the f****** Kool-Aid man like I can't Fraser started tapping me in different places I he literally was just like what the f*** is going it was like getting caught in the bus so I was like wait that's not going to work in the movie and then and it's infucking horn with the Italian horn and Peyton interesting that I think people forget that he can actually act you go I can watch Rocky 1 you go you know young guy first but when he got that script he's the one who said that he was a homicidal maniac 2 character and he said he said this isn't going to work he's got to be a killer but specifically you could just kill everybody he's got to have a philosophy behind why does this fascinating character in Hollywood I mean never had a guy with the longevity that Sylvester's 25 years still making action movies he's a hundred and fifty thousand years old he's still making ax movies and don't buy it and don't you know Phil Pacino and they're talkin and I'm kind of in the I'm standing in that group sort of good and I don't want to say anything I want to say anything just about said one impressive shut behind me the loss of his most recent work and riding Joey Diaz said that this is Roadhouse on steroids he was Joe Rogan listen to me this f****** movies amazing he's going to see it Roadhouse on steroids and incredible you love it you'll get high to the f****** gills call Bro shut your mouth is growing 100% realistic f*** you man who's playing the Hitman and is actually a pretty f****** good moving interesting movie like I couldn't get enough credit like what was the butt spine and all the operation that he's been through what I liked about this it's a Walter Hill film to what I liked about this movie was not just liked about it but that Stallone got like super crazy lean like he was he looking like a hundred pounds there you go buddy. Get over it

wonder how long is going to take before the human race eradicates that cuz I think if you look at like pinker's work and some other people that studied violence and abuse and all of the various things that we love least about civilization those markers are going down sort of across the door with a violent crime or rape his markers are slowly going down like how long does it take for there's none of that anyway part of it can't just drop bodies all the time because it's you don't know it was going to f****** ring the cops just go can we take a look at your ring footage Ryan and you know you got to make a getaway somewhere you're always on camera and they can do this just posted something that I retweeted it and citizens are sort of revolting against this constant surveillance State that's over can China use sang over the next 10 years is what's going to be America absent sweeping reform this is the whole world in 10 years remember both parties in the US defend Mass surveillance programs China's Advantage here is not technological but that there is no strong civil opposition to slow The Descent into Nightmare so China is not I'm sorry I read it wrong is not able to slow it there just slowly descend against the surveillance tape liters is very important we were lied to enough kind of time for 18 years by senior us officially the authorities and scan your phone track your face and find when you find out when you leave your home on the world's biggest spine networks is aimed at regular people and no one can stop it and this is in China civil liberties because in the name of protecting the Fatherland from from essentially terrorism because of communist lit-lit the reichstag on fire interesting is how long is it going to take before some version of this makes it over here cuz it seems inevitable it's coming but you have to beat you have to fight it tooth and f****** nail Americans should always be distrustful of their authority figures I don't give a fuk how much Trump or anybody else you should hold you even accountable and you should not you should always have a healthy distrust will W2 for 18 years about how the war was going on Afghanistan we spent over a trillion dollars on that f****** War over the past how long has it been since 2003 good and and we were trying to turn into a Modern Nation you have senior us officials whether intelligence military everybody else they knew and somehow that just never made it on every General kept saying we're at a turning point in the war we're going to defeat the Taliban know you weren't and you know the difference and you knew that at the time and I understand that there's a lot of pressure and everything else but we spent all that money for f****** what and a lot of Americans got injured and f****** killed for it and we were lied to I know what this is but that's what that's how they would if they could get something that implemented in Afghanistan and put a giant kibosh sure on the amount of terrorist activities that right good luck I know I would say good luck honey I mean there's nothing in his they can really tell you where this goes politicians use the same exact language which is we have to protect the public from these insurgents this danger here is what this is doing it's making it almost impossible to be a traditional to have a traditional government right cuz if this stuff starts making it to there with then we can find out they're doing all the time so what if we would if it turns out well liberal let you masturbate on Sunday we want 24/7 access to anyone who is any sort of Representative anyone who's a congressman and it was a Senator and it was the president who want 24/7 access to everything you say and do we want to know want to know who you are no more backs my problem with the best people with that is a politician so I don't know if that's the answer might might I saying is the answer to just saying imagine if everyone has access to everyone's life and you need warrants and make it f****** difficult but the reason why a country like the United States goes to war with a country like Afghanistan or banister prices because you have leaders and groups once there's no leaders here and wants his no groups and everybody can see everything and everybody's doing then you have no no more need for governments or all the resources get distributed evenly all natural resources auction, natural resources on Earth are owned by the human beings that inhabit the Earth not human beings that live on that one particular spot and all those dudes are making fracking money that's our money b**** is our Earth healing the f****** essence of the earth and selling it back to the people how dare you Karl Marx right here man who sings you can sell you sell cars you can sell this you can tell that Mick building I'm not stopping capitalism but I'm saying is all natural resources all of them belong to the conquerors of the earth which is us the human beings out of it so no no no trillionaire Oil Barons no dependence on fossil fuels because you're great but if no one in particular is profiting entirely are fossil fuels because the money has to be distributed evenly to everyone the same with solder she wasn't eating anything that's a resource any natural resource but you need me I don't need the technology to to harness that stuff that you just said that what you can't sell is oil well anymore not when I'm president president you run you run okay and then what's our platform what's the tune in to see what's our slogan how do we grow more no more no more dinner theater everybody that works in Tennessee or now makes tuna you working a tune-up plant where you make tuna Swahili or so we have more more no great President we f***** up the oceans is always heavy metals and poison in there we need a filter for the ocean select a filter that you have at your house have two filters in tap water right yeah you really want us to the ocean not really. Not when you get rid of Music dinner theater all musicals must use the money yeah I got to make those people go to work in a real job musicals or what people want to see

we got really really really really really high and went to see one of your professors one of your acting Professor Ernest Sing Sing musicals that was that was a wonderful night it was out it was a while I love that kind of stuff we're so I can walk fast no me neither knew I knew how to walk but I wasn't totally sure I can keep doing it I never I never smoke weed Atlantic City in wooden swimming and I smoke weed and I didn't know I was not a weed smoker and usually have in the water out of the ocean the last sitting at night I lost my car keys and we're looking everywhere everywhere in 2 hours later I sit down at Kirk's on my bow just tired too much pie looks men she goes Brian yeah open your hand please too much pie looks men she goes Brian yeah she goes open your hand please

I've had my sunglasses on top of my hat and look for him for 10 minutes before stock quote was an eye on the planet well you try to keep him from violent games I do but they said it's like telling me not to blow in the wind it's interesting Dakota Meyer who's decorated veteran and you know how can you tell me story about a fist fight with a guy you know in war with with the Enemy and picked up a rock beat his brains in this guy is telling you that video games can desensitize you I'm going to listen yeah I am I'm going to listen to him I am too he's you know he healthy you're not going to make you more likely to go shoot people that's a fact yeah that's the thing it's like are you saying that you playing Red Dead Redemption is going to make you want to go out and f****** shoe people know it's not going to affect on minors I think they're couple things going on addicted one more game crazy they stomp the ground all day when you plan on that level do they retard your social skills and your you know I mean there's a lot of considerations I don't know I'm also in favor of you doing anything you want if there's some people that would make the same argument about someone is addicted to reading sure there's a lot of people that are in their heads reading novel human creation this design Captivate your attention whether it's a novel or film or anyting things are designed that's what are is and what awaits me an art gallery and you stare at someone's work it's like some human creation that captivates your attention and get you logged in and we see a really beautiful piece like we were in Italy and I we're in Florence we went to this Ancient Ancient church and had this is beautiful works of art on the wall painted this a thousand years ago and What would life was like and you looking to intricacies these dresses like that's an engaging human creation that captivates your attention we just we have Merit in that kind of engaging captivated piece of art we will put married in that we don't put Mara and video games for some reason it's too captivated someone who'll I got to trust fund you never have to work again you got a f****** 10 million dollars in the bank and you can just chill forever and you want to play video games all day my all right like if you want me and I don't know what to tell you you don't have to work something like that painting of when Spain was bombed by the luftwaffe before World War II does incredible imagery in what we can do with an iPad will it's all the same thing in some way it's a human creation but the thing about these digital human Creations as they have his alien-like coldfield them like there's something about digital things even if they're spectacular like there's no emotion in this thing this thing is a creation to one and a zero it sits in his computer I'm going to light a candle I'm going to sit there and I'm going to read novels all day I have $10 in the bank that I got for my trust phone I just like reading no one would say you're a loser who is Brian to he's amazing you know he got his trust fund and then said I want to educate myself I just want to read I just read all the great works and sit home all day and just reads it's amazing but that is somehow more intriguing because what you're doing is developing and expanding your understanding who is worth speaking to you might have some secrets and some understanding that I can use so we need to talk to somebody who's really gone down that rabbit-hole like Joseph Campbell piano who read all the phosphorus and everybody he's organized in a way that might shed some light on the things that are confusing to you that are you know that are depressing or that are scaring you or whatever you do need like that leaders of thought that can put things into perspective you know that come kind of tell you why there's a difference between say Picasso in this other people that know how to play the f*** out of a video game the thing as those people don't get any credit when you see the kids today that are winning these video game tournaments me while the dad works at f****** IHOP making real money on his stupid game you told him to never play that feeling like Arenas are we crazy this is where the world Goes the World goes to the most engaging creation and human beings have that locks in other people's attention and the most engaging Creations for young people are these goddamn video game they're just Group after it's their giant Group corporate efforts whether it's you know Grand Theft Auto or the new Doom when's the new Doom coming out I do think there's a difference I do think that when you're really good at a video game there's there is an addictive quality too and yes you're really good at doing something right but at the end of the day it's a game and that game is somewhat masturbatory that game I don't know that when you really could go to Fort not tonight or Doom I don't know if that game in any way expands your understanding your ability to contribute to the larger conversation okay but I'm just saying blue balls and pink balls and black balls and I don't know I don't understand the game I've watched a bunch but there's these people that play it and it's less popular now why the guys want a big-time guys got busted he got busted doing a fixed game like someone someone paid him off to lose and he agreed to do it for a certain amount of money but the thing is that a game like that as well respected because someone has to execute its not to me getting off the shot yes it's a skilled and also people love to watch it who play snooker yeah lean on me but you don't know where difference write a video game you have to execute as well but it doesn't seem like you're doing it because you're not physically do just moving your hands around and moving a keyboard and it doesn't seem like it's as skillful or but it is 4 people just like a great pool player right front so when you watch pool you're doing it for steaks doing it for money but you're also watching these people who have mastered this insane geometry what we respect some versions of that like elf respect that's why we don't respect bowling golf players of all time that golfer is going to make millions and millions of dollars a year but that guy is a baller he's a golfer and he's at the top of the food chain it comes to any of those skills require you to master yourself in the video games it seems like it's happening in a digital realm and because of that it's not taken too seriously either you found they made more money I can you find out someone's a successful video game player there's a certain party like why you waste your time with that even if you go huh good for him just seems weird yes right there's like a weird you don't it's still not good even though they were older it's subversive yes that for guys that are Arnie's it's subversive it's we don't trust it we don't like it we don't understand it and it scares us a little bit because it's also reminds us of our own mortality also brainwashed seen the video games till game player is all that stuff so so for older people I'm I'm feel I feel left out I don't understand it and I and I feel like they're being bad and they should listen to me where is chess is Noble does noble gases someone playing chess that's Noble you find out someone is really good at chess look impressive

Bahamas tattoo and he's got as you got some work I'll death that movie Harley-Davidson the Marlboro Man is that what that is belt buckle with no shirt no shirt when he was younger my favorite actor of all time Mickey the world of actors my friend they are out there he was abused by his stepdad on Baldwin's podcast is very heartbreaking very heartbreaking he was abused by his his his stepfather was a cop and a brutal son-of-a-b**** and really abused those two boys his side brother make his arms I blamed as far as his stepfather they saw his father he never seen he's so heartbreaking till the store in child's father in New York Files come out of a bar Smiley does NICU stand there and he was on your Sunday is Father goes I thought of running you one day and his father died a week later of alcoholism everyone that's f***** up in this life is f***** up because of something that someone did to them whether it's a relative or abuse that they suffered or you know things throughout their life that have gone horribly wrong specially for children the big one I mean that's the most formative time of your life right when you meet people that were abused as children everyone like University feels for them be like oh no you have children for sure I could tastrophe in the nun in piano thing to deal with it is that that's so terrible to me it's the special evil you know it is abusing children that you're ruining not just a moment but the full potential of a child's life is never going to escape the fact that was done to them but someone use them just me and their life that's big and I was like that's true right because when your dad's not there your mom's not there are some was not there this is like the feeling of like a displacement everything's wrong and then on top of that with these kids get abused just like oh my God you've compounded horror on top of of sadness and loneliness are on top of the really f*****-up things that repeats itself like they say that people that are molested when their children are much more likely to molest children which is like the thing that happened to the abuse that happen to you someone like you want to put it on someone else yet the fact that this how many kids grow up in single-parent households in this country is the problem that's the problem and talk about racism that's that is that abuse I would make it a lot like you'd be I would make it very uncomfortable for you. That's just one kind of abuse is also abused by your actual biological parents there's a very Spidey other biological relatives who have there's there's people that have abused by stepfather but it's the same thing it's like what happens when you were really young person to becoming an adult and once if someone is abusing you and f****** you over you over that just ruins the most people's lives most people don't bounce back from that you know and then you get caught up in this spiral of the cycle crime and violence in prison and abuse and you're done you're done

Tri-County Phoenix Frank Caliendo and Adam Reina Del Sur crazy lineup things pins the funniest thing in the world is most insulting one time one time we're doing the podcast and he was just lying down to go be respectful and shut the f****** and I start talking and he's got me slap me in the face funny motherfuker man hilarious a great guy to just a good dude I like being around them is fun yeah these are my inner circle while we're all weirdos he's just he's a weirdo weirdo and none of them like all the two of them got back to me everybody else like side and then you just f****** Misfits miss me like you can make real money you f****** idiot clothing there also wild wild people and I did it like being disciplined and rigid and on a schedule that they create themselves like Aunt like yourself send like yourself that much honey should always be a little dissatisfied with yourself at work for me yeah I don't think you should be satisfied very often if you want to be good at anything right you are an improvement and growth path trying to get better whatever it is it's tennis right you trying to get better at it all the time like you shouldn't if you want to get better at all time you got to be scrutinizing can't be happy about certain moments where you were really good and think that's you you got to be thinking about the two things didn't do I got to fix that part of the story with her is true or not but I think it is by Rafael Nadal had just won Wimbledon greatest of all time the MCM play like his athleticism is power he hits the ball so hard that the ball the ball revolve twice as fast and makes it twice as many Revolutions of the average high level 10 back he's back in the locker room going I know I just don't know if my grip should have been a little bit I feel like it's going to change that but still adjusting he was longing for acceptance longing for respect attention and even just went out there f****** guns-blazing like an animal but then went to Gatti's party with Bon Jovi and Motley Crue and they're doing blow f****** on the tour bus and do you know what drinking vodka to 5 in the morning all that chaos it's just it stops being the same thing life is now you're celebrating the fact that you're the s*** instead of you're desperate to make the best work you can make desperate to work after I talk to this I want the name of the famous rock and roll with Elton John because I don't know who wrote those songs I don't remember but they said they read his lyrics back and he said in that something like who did that not me I don't know I can't do that anymore that's the that's a fear of mine

it almost be like if everybody was naked all the time nudity would be no big deal attack I mean it's it's he's got he's got lungs you can see him breathe men he's got a crook so I can f*** around corners you should get it painted like an anaconda tattoo like an anaconda Joe Rogan Experience but it is anybody had like a really good one done what I do though the American flag I don't know what I f****** dragon or something like that. Joe ears are here where my balls are but the dragon the tip of the nose is red yeah always tired on face I know a great musician though really talented guy but like cut that out but like my point is that didn't exist in the 1960s right there what about Dick tattoos like what if that becomes a normal girl like take your pants down the future just like you don't even have your dick tattooed up for a while oh that's crazy he's got like birds on his forehead and Jesus Otis fake I was a drawing even though it's a drawing who cares still crazy so I got drawn her face honey that's your cheek don't tolerate that kind of s*** in life while there's a lot of people getting face tattoos the guy in cats that was on Instagram giant piece on them and they Instagram took the photo down cuz it like this is too sensitive but are the rock the the game has a giant thick as well in the video did you see the picture I posted not try to avoid pictures that was well listen find a dick that big I let everybody know too I mean he's grabbing his dead all that dick is pretty Preposterous yeah that's preposterous he'll now remember that's that's right I remember back has a slit under that p**** like Mecca Nick and tune it up with his tongue run her bath until the water is warm as a Miami Morning in the spring okay giant to Jujitsu and suffer like they can f*** you that's being a dick that's tattooed like an anaconda that's what I'm getting at does anybody have that let's take a look at his dick like Anaconda course but I'm shocked that I haven't seen this I'm outraged hundreds and hundreds of times yes there's no way to know about penis tattoos and it talks about a guy's 14 Stripes to make it look like a snake that's cool Dragon the far right yeah that was a problem so that far-right Dragon this is dude this is people that's in the problem of individuality with accoutrement is that what is yes or they just like dragons it just like it was a dragon that's possible to bro get more work done Exercise f****** head how you just now getting held your dick down a bolt through the head of it is very good girls just like you know you think different mentality to got sleeved I got half sleeves and isn't it 60 shirt that movie that picture go back to the one you just had to do that to you that one that's when he was doing that movie with the head he got super lean man hello father on my father's side is half of what he was Irish of my father's half-hour so his my father's mom was it a full Italian and his dad was full Irish his my father's mom was a full talion and his dad was full Irish Italian

husky talks about like you don't know what's going on their brand if you did you'd be a lot more sympathetic than the idea of Free Will being a farce it's not real how much I love it and so I'm very guarded of my my in my body right like just ask him. I just don't want any to f****** so I can keep doing it like I couldn't do stand-up but also you are the victim of your circumstances you are you are the product or the benefactor of all these years of things happening all these different events all the people you know which one of the big ones is what I concentrate on I think more than anything in my life the quality of the people around you dictate the quality of your life and this is an equation that people for whatever reason don't put down as significant or primary but the quality of the people that you have in your life is everything you could be camping like you and I were in Montana 9° I was a bunch of great guys we had a good f****** time we didn't we didn't have a house now I'm going to stay warm by fire but the quality of our life was significant it was great because the quality of the people that you're around that's everything man want to give a little worried about money or fame or or credibility or whatever accolades you think you deserve that you're not getting the quality of the peep around you is everything they drive you they change your opinions they challenge you to show compassion they show they show warmth and camaraderie that allows you to be more comfortable with who you are you open up to each other mean this is everything in this life is community one of the things that's most lost when we're dealing with urbanization and large groups of people want two things it's most loss is our sense of community the more people we have the less value those people have a name nuisance they become their just some f**** ahead of you on the highway right and not human beings with lives and hopes and wishes they become a burden they become locusts yeah they're not just a pretty grasshopper the f****** an overabundance and no quality by no quality in your job choice no quality and the education is thrust upon you know quality in the people that you're running into and your relationships that are on pills and a wacky distort the truth is there always a victim the never wrong or you could be around a bunch of cool people and friend why why give it 10 minutes once you guys you guys are just getting warmed up in 10 minutes I know I might do one where we start funny Julian Will Sasso can't take credit for that

I look good with a beard look at in a shot that hurt me hunting turkey hunting fun because it's like I swear to God there's a feeling that you get when you kill an animal that's not it's not a happy feeling it's there's a there's a remorse that is engulfing the happiness I just happiness but there's also like a remorse No Remorse when you blast a turkey I'm here to tell you I shot a turkey in the head I felt nothing not only that put it on Instagram nobody gave a f*** I was holding that turkey up by its feet and my shot of turkey do vegans care about turkey's and if you are around them you care about him even letting everything wants to kill a turkey when we have to cover your face cuz otherwise can I really never cool animal turkeys a cool animal man really is daddy there's a bird that's dead and I go there and it was a dove with no head and and and a chest of an email Colorado by a bird of prey yeah or an owl we have a big owl in the neighborhood swoops down and snatches a hawk out of its nest what they're saying that yeah they got a camera on this nest of hawks so they kill Hawks give a hoot don't pollute ruthless f****** killer holding a rabbit and just decided I was getting too close to Mt just let the rabbit going so I got out of car to look at the rabbits rabbit tortoise f****** thing apart are you with this video it was on my Instagram it's night vision and you see these hawks just hanging out in the ass like a well I guess we're just supposed to be here for the night Noah Whataburger

the copying say the intellectual property thing they don't give him his daughter is being held captive in Vancouver do you know about that yeah Google that the head of Huawei Huawei has been accused of some crazy backdoor s*** they put in the routers and they're really worried about their technology get into this country in the United States has stopped the product of their cellphones in the United States like you have to buy them from somewhere else and bring them in so if you know what's it called what's it called when it's not connected to someone by cell phones not connected to somebody you don't know whatever but you can buy one of those websites company that has become their number to now the right behind a pollacappul number one is Apple Mill Samsung Samsung has never won their number to an Apple's number three so they've passed Apple in cell phone production has always had passed by the British by a lot of different unit by the Japanese for behaved an opium from India to China China Dalton major opium problem so the emperor and the government said this is a major problem guess what Britain you can't sell your opium on our doctor unloading huge boxes of f****** opium from India and I know you're making a lot of money but no because we have a major addiction problems and Britton said you're interfering with free trade and we should be allowed to and China said you're not allowed to and so they went to and Britain won that war and force China to continue buying opium that's why the British took Hong Kong and leased it for a hundred years without shopping she it's just to stick to our 11 p.m. curfew so by the way she's tired by 11 anyway so her dad owns Huawei is that what it is extradite her on the grounds that she tricked Banks into potentially Violet in Iran sanctions has sparked an unprecedented diplomatic row they don't give a f*** they're doing business with everybody with a briefcase full of cash and nuclear weapons f*** you and this is what the United States government is worried about like these people becoming the number one technology provider in the world like if they provided all the cell phones at everyone America use like what if they were closed did they came out okay and they add on to the Verizon network or the AT&T network with some of these phones these phones when you look at the the tech people the tech be like the other people like unbox therapy and MKBHD those guys who developed these YouTube videos breaking down the components of cell phones they're always super favorable about these Huawei phones they have crazy cameras some of them have this f****** insane ability to zoom in really use Computer Learning and they have the iPhone the new iPhone is pretty f****** good but when the watch the latest Huawei mate Pro whatever the f*** it was one of them one of their most high-end phone there's a video of them doing a zoom and that you can't believe how much bigger they can make something that's in the distance and make it look really clear image stabilization and crazy I mean on a camera that's on the phone I mean they're and they're going hog-wild with technology and providing like the state-of-the-art s*** and just a few years ago they were like an unheard-of brand mean 5 6 7 years ago you never heard about people talk about Huawei now Huawei has a direct competitor to the MacBook Pro where I mean a lot of people think it's the best laptop that you can buy a bezel display see it pops up so people can't see where you jerking off is one of those guys that worries weldy's Huawei computers it figured out and they basically an Apple MacBook just made it way better about the marketplaces for Creative destruction that like the fact that move that flip the camera all the stuff that we had a GPS GPS you had your phone and you had to allow certain businesses to go out of business to get all that technology into one f****** place which is your phone that we all use and that requires people to it requires creative destruction imagine if people bailed out all those portable phone businesses boards are or decide whether or not it was fair you a government organization would never allow for that kind of credit but you would not listen the situation like with China with technology they they're not like trying to save those stupid phones like Windows phones became irrelevant because the cameras on the phones were bad energy innovation in all the all the Innovation that comes out of apple you can swipe all that stuff don't forget that's all that's all that came out of the free-market that came out of the competition to me that they just take that and do it better

I enjoyed your I enjoyed that time game changers with Chris Kresser and that is a little bit like listening to a Protestant and a Catholic argue over the minutiae of how to worship God like they both believe in God like they are or like a the Sunni and ashea is that it was it was very human beings get in too much information and then we'll start parsing out stuff that's not that helpful to Otis Mendel long conversation the conversation very long and unfortunately when Chris was talking about the game changers he got several things wrong particularly the big ones were the amount of protein you can get in peanut butter amount of protein is in bread and whether or not that is equal to 3 oz of ground meat and what Wilkes are showing is that it is and he made his point very well and that made Chris his argument not look very good then there was the other problem where is Chris Kresser sort of personally defined he defined as low carb vs. medium carb vs. high carb and wasn't making a distinction that this is not the consensus amongst nutritionists what they consider low carb medium car-part James accused him of that Chris tonight it and then James pulled out all of these different articles that show that he has a different version of what he calls low carb meat a car or I got the problem with all this is he's just making Chris look bad and he's not necessarily proving that a veggie vegan diets better for you but he is rightly pointing out that he was wrongly criticized so I guess his chest is very impressive ability to come prepared here animal products is going to get is an easy way to get B12 and then the problem going to kill you that's the problem with doing a documentary and then that's a problem with someone criticizing the documentary you know it's like the documentary and he's got enough stuff that he can say you were inaccurate with with the criticism so that then we get lost in the argument is meat bad for you is it like that's the main thing it's not but the way they are conflating it with people who were advertising for cigarettes and doctors advertising for cigarettes back in the day and saying the cigarettes are these are the same people are doing this like know the problem is everyone was aware for a long time that cigarettes are not healthy this is not the case with me these studies that will you connect people with all these diseases with me they connect their diet as a whole they could be eating cheeseburgers and bread by soda and sound drinking and smoking but they also eat meat versus people who don't eat meat but what if someone is going to be conscientious and think about even if they're Incorrect and they just assume that the sign says the eating meat is bad for you if you start eating more fish or more chicken or more vegetables you clean up your diet I bet just statistically I'd already blessed drinking I honestly they have left it is cigarette smoking they're probably healthier on the whole because they're making choices that even if it's incorrect they think are good like not eating meat or as much meat nutrition is it when I watched game changers I have to say that it it did seem like the narrative the story of the movie was that being a vegan is better for you for all these reasons all the signs of the reasons than eating any meat that's that's what it was a vegan film screw that for me just as of you were the arguments being made that being a vegan that's what I like from just what I got right the Retros what was meant I got to being a vegan better for you it keeps your dick hard you won't die of cancer and still have less inflammation or Enduro sings claimed they made that was incorrect okay scientifically is a PhD what's really going on with nutritional science because of criticism of the film he was an all-in every right he had every right to defend get any closer at the end there was some confusion that was about whether or not it is healthy or not healthy to eat meat he was citing some studies and Kresser was saying those studies aren't valid because of this and that and that's where we would have been if we had a guy like Layne Norton in here would have helped a lot we can do that would have someone actually explain it I'd like to look at the blue zones who eat meat and they have stayed lot of times they eat some form of dairy and they drink their good communities they don't retire there's a lot more to longevity and Health and Living a good life than being a purist for sure whether or not it's because overpopulation is real do it there the conversation is really ultimately what is sustainable you know and it's not what is sustainable right now for your lifespan it's like what is sustainable for the future and should we engineer for a better tomorrow because we sort of are we're not that people are acting as individuals was not really a whole lot of Engineering in terms of slowing down the rate of childbirth or trying to prevent people from having too many kids trying to prevent overpopulation what up that's what the sink the thing is there's plenty of people that live below the poverty line in terms of like what our perception the poverty line is and what you're seeing in a lot of these more industrialized nations is as people start developing careers in men and women get careers you have less childbirth like you seen that in Japan Japan has apparently an issue with a lack of childbirth not as many as they said that's not sustainable more industrialized nations is that people start developing careers in men and women get careers you have less childbirth like you seen that in Japan Japan has apparently an issue with a lack of childbirth not as many as they should has not sustained of it at

that's why I think for a lot of guys you know walking into an MMA gym is terrifying but it's okay that everything that start with U no one tiny step and I like I like doing anything that makes me feel uncomfortable and and takes me off my pins and because I it opens up new Pathways of understanding somehow are certainly forces me to do what I do now with people who I disagree with philosophically it's okay but what I what I try to do is I just try to listen to them really I try to kind of 0 instead of like immediately throw my hands up did you see what Burton Cummings said the other day Britney Cummings Whitney Whitney Whitney coming now did I say Brittany what was I just saying she got reported to HR on a show she was on cuz as she was leaving some Merry Christmas some intern no yes in turn was offended called Human Resources because she said Merry Christmas and her aunt response something that's very f****** important for people to realize about the West Samantha really unique about the West in Western Civilization is that imperialism racism sexism Aldi's isms that we are guilty of the Westin invent these things but we did you know we were egregious violators in some cases of that you know slavery was a real fans country what's unique about the west and I'm getting this is that who were the first to label it and condemn it and the West has always been a country that seems always to be in the process of repenting for its past that is not, that is unique to an end self-criticism is part of it as a society we are so people like that silly girl who that's been going on actually in one way or another for a long time girl or boy I know it's a little bit more if it's way more but but that's actually to the character of this country we have always had people who kind of went you know that's wrong I don't want to do that this is this isn't fair all that kind of stuff and it was a f****** it would always cause all kinds of problems but that's extreme that's a silly goose whoever's doing a Hollywood thing where these people can't be liberal enough so hard to be Progressive that they're just becoming ridiculous it's so reactionary and everyone's scared that they're going to be out of the woke Loop like maybe they're behind the letting something slide they should have stepped up for cuz now you can get in trouble if you don't come out again someone saying Merry Christmas like hey man you know where were you when that sucking pig said merry Christmas you know What Christmas Means Supremacy and Quantum Supremacy which is quantum shooting its next level Next Step Computing and there was an article about Google achieving Quantum Supremacy and there were like we don't like the term Supremacy cuz reminds people of white supremacy and I think about those people those people they're ready they're they're not they're young experienced and wise they're very smart and they know they are which is one of the reasons why they want to make an argument to put something like that through and think that it makes sense it's because they're so smart but they're not is is you get seasoned by your interactions with human beings you're naive when you're younger and then as you get older you get season at my changes but you also get seasoning you experience so many different human beings that exhibit the sort of stereotypes and these like patterns of behavior and you got to know when people are being Knuckleheads and you got to know when people are being why is an objective and you got to know when people being kind and loving and you got to know when people being assholes so you can see all the different things as you get older you get more data you know in a lot of these kids are like 20 by 20 tuner yelling about the world like that Greta Thornburg check the heat she's 16 Healthcare I didn't you and I'm sitting here if we had to try right what would happen is we might come with more Republican or Democratic or a liberal or conservative sensibility initially I think once you get down the level of detail in your try to solve these problems policy for the most number of people wait gray or and way less if you are somebody that has to solve problems if you are somebody who has to turn a profit if you're somebody will have to figure out what your what Your clientele actually will by and I think sometimes that's why people who own businesses and people have to make the trains run on time have a different philosophical and political point of view then do people who essentially spend a lot of time thinking and writing in an academic institution run because you don't need to get down to level of detail you can stay in that wonderful world of theory and that's an important world it's not the say that you shouldn't have that but a lot of journalists come from that world they come straight from that world a theory that world of that intellectual Pursuit and and they come right into then they see the world and I think that might be why a lot of times people media tend to be a little bit more ideological maybe a little bit more liberal depending cuz you can say Fox News is just as f****** idiot Logic on the other side but I do think your your perspective changes when you have to get down to when you're out there in the real world that are just completely in whatever the subject and you know and they're just lifelong academics and that's what they're going to do both both but what would the real problem is when people come out of these universities and they have these sort of Hardline ideas of how the world needs to change the revolution Quantum Supremacy you know a lot of these people with these ideas are one day going to laugh at those ideas they won't give me to look at back I was so stupid just like you've done just like I have done just like basically everybody does as they get older you start saying oh my God ESR one day going to laugh at those ideas they won't give me to look at that go oh my god when I was 20 I was so stupid just like you've done just like I have done just like basically everybody does as they get older you start saying oh my God When I Was Eighteen with a f****** moron I was oh my god when I was 24 when he was stupid s*** I thought I should do memes that's part of life

you and I should do a dance competition and schobert and, what time are both athletic dudes they're actually both athletic guys here's my prediction I know I'm being driven I'm copying but I want to I want to f****** dad's you why don't you have your own I think they both already have scripts written for their reports and I'll know who's going to go first well it's got to be burnt you can't you can't double down with this ship was ruthless ruthless this video you seen this video right come on like this part like watch this and that's why he was offended by Bert's he's like I'll show you then that I was a little confused I felt like he was laying back like if we're going to do a hip-hop dance contest you know what I mean like he's the guy at the bar that pretends can't play pool I mean I played a couple of time oh by the way selling those machine shirts machine you can buy those at your mom's house. Com I'm going to buy one of us and then and then and then broken comes back with a if we do a dance-off you're going to want to win and I don't know if I have the time to dedicate to the action house like she you got serious right away you get competitive I have kept my most ridiculous moron Tendencies at Bay for most of my adult life but when we did sober October last year and I was making a fire life but when we did sober October last year and I was making the fire alarm go off for my sweat like I was telling them I'm like you're going to die I might give you going to do when you're going to die you don't understand

nothing about getting older as you get stork faster I had ever such a stupid thing I had to have a wrestling match in my jeans don't ask guy to get it right and get him off and why do you hang up and he's always want to get in the feed bucket you know what I mean and well I was sore the next day Chevy Chase is coming on as a grumpy guy they said that Chevy Chase did so many pratfalls that he's in pain all the time about all the times you start Chevy Chase fall down in movies and TV shows and one of things it happens obviously two older athlete to play football or Combat Sports or boxing getting beat up like that getting slammed around like that they got bad back they get headaches to get a little bit but what what you're seeing with him it is very well could be that guy hurt his body real bad doing pratfalls Buster Keaton was like the very first ever stunt man who did crazyshit man if your watch like some old Buster Keaton films the stunt that that guy did back when he couldn't fake any of ya like nuts but it's always getting beat up f***** up man Taylor Chevy Chase falling down but I got news for you this is all legit and he fell a lot man constantly he was like almost like a Tom Green type character but also but also a brilliant actor and comedian so he felt all the f****** time so I'm guessing as a person's phone bunch of times. Guys probably in pain a lot like all the time doesn't feel good how do you transfer this no way to death just a few of all the time that cop movie I feel great and a guy who is the trainer walk by he's abused used to be a pro football player and and now he trains a lot of pro athletes and he knows his s*** and he walked by and he goes he looks at me and he goes think Chris Camacho Chris looked at me and goes if a guy is 53 months

as you get older uke I don't I can't get injured I'm yes I'm doing you know I don't know if you know this but I'm a lesbian I'm going to show called school and you jump around like you're very physical and you don't wish you would tell me lies he play professional football for animals for 7 year so he's the real deal industrial athlete so also a very nice guy to show called like with a cage I put a cage in the hung heavy bags and toss and put pictures of a gold UFC fights in the wall is f****** amazing everytime it whether it's acting soaked and by the way he comes in and I'm like your neck looks so sick he goes first in a workout when you're close to them differently that guy that's what he looks like right now that's what it looks like right now and if he had anything he did all the stunts himself to the point where it hasn't hit a rush at me in a touch football game I on the quarterback and he had to hit two dudes or look at that picture about him and it's really interesting that the professional professional wrestling is unbelievably boot on your body in all those guys I don't think get respected enough for how hard that job is to do there doing it hundreds of nights they can 100 + 92 year and they're throwing each other around they get smashed but what I was going to say is he has come out of it better than most yes for sure cuz he's never stopped working out he never stop stretching so we'll be on set that guy stretching he says length of strength he's he's always moving his body that you don't like Kurt Angle told me instead of warrior he told me that he got injured way more gold medals in the Olympics and I'm going to I'm coming for your head I'm going to die do you have to dump gone schooled yes oh no I've never been that close to a former pro football player and his speed and he would hit these two dudes with his and the thud that it sounded like maybe when it went to elephant they went flying back with horizontal and then he comes and Dives and would come for my head and we kept having to take over cuz I'm a coward and I would I would you know I look like a potato bug you do any kind of those acts moved I know he's done a bunch but I mean I think he could be a huge Megastar he's got it all the personality so you nice guy smart funny and very humble for a ridiculously huge giant person he was working for Fuji at the time and they installed oh no he's working for zebras he's me at the time and he works for Fuji now then to Pedro's a gold medal at the Olympics for Judo and Jimmy Pedro set everything up and he he put the they put these mats down on like a raised platform so it had like a little bounce to it like if you if you got slammed or something like that and so they tested it out and so by testing out Jimmy Pedro who probably weighs 175 maybe lean thin very strong got thrown around Goldberg was letting himself technique such that it's so good that he can do this easy that's my garage son Jimmy Pedro way after he's done competing perfect just perfect technique look how much bigger goldburgers up but he can throw him around and now showing Goldberg how to do it yeah it already remarkably uninjured for someone who did what he did for so long but he knows a lot about exercise physiology force them to build like we're like very tight and region they can't move so good anymore for someone who did what he did for so long but he knows a lot about exercise physiology know he's got some bumps I know he's got some s*** going to be still looks like him and I mean by these guys are f***** up man where the back injuries of force them to be like we're like very tight and region they can't move so good anymore

but I think one of the reasons for that as we have a rate of something like 2,000 species of your being deemed extinct right so we have that many animals being extinct every year there's there's flags being put up is it really extinct have we looked everywhere and so this yeah I do want to say I was the first but I feel like I was in that way the first people to start looking into Extinction as far as an ongoing animals Bronx leading extinct and now it's like like mainstream in the biology world it's like there's a lot of people that are like romantic sort of thing is a lot of cash I'll give you can find and seem to be extinct Barbarossa harrowing journey to find this creature that the world is written off it's very romantic you have you ever heard of the all wrong pendek why does repetitive that's okay the Cryptids a locked in Vietnam in Vietnam and maybe some other parts of Southeast Asia and the most people thought it was nonsense until the homofloriensis until they found out about that Hobbit person that lives in the island of Flores been like okay hold on or lived right side 14000 years ago right so when they found out about that thing like will me and maybe these little suckers are still hanging around out there somewhere something that lives there here's you a mile away which is the world's largest cave that was only discovered in 1995 it's this massive opening 6 miles of underground cave daylight for 2 days you should look at the pictures of this place you'll love it I mean it's just this New York City skyscrapers inside of it it's so big it has its own weather system might mountain range between Vietnam and Laos and I we got to go into it this year because we were looking for this habitat fact this is my show that comes out tonight we were looking for the where's the people can hear it with Bob Weir fresh live tonight at 9 p.m. on Animal Planet we go into song Doon cave set your DVRs kids look at the wedding cake down right there that's called the wedding cake it's it's aspires I mean it's just it's the most fantastic looking thing does a person standing on top of that little tire right there that's so spectacular but what's amazing is about two-thirds of the way through the system you can see where what you're looking at is areas where the cave roof has collapsed and there's isolated pockets of ecosystem right so we were talking about the the pygmy people that could live in the forests of Vietnam this is the kind of my point is this giant six mile long cave with these huge openings wasn't even discovered until I think 95 so what's to say a tribe of small people hiding something like that and move in and out and never seen I mean it's it's fantastic there was a stupid movie about people that lived underground at 8 people member that is 6 did they do The Descent 2 and you like my video potential it's obvious probably not real of an alluring pendek I was totally real Jamie it's a 10 minute video I just died if you do not ever you have seen this before then there in Vietnam black how they used to always check the whatever it was called a check like the National Enquirer for like tips on Aliens what else it could be like yeah yeah could be bulshit but it could be a little monkey discovered they could stay hidden yeah and it was really small and you know it in and also some sort of a hominid that has Intelligence right it's probably got a pretty decent food source in the jungle yet but you would find a dead one with me that's always the argument right why isn't there a Roadkill screenshot. Who knows who's what's to say that isn't a short guy who's been poaching and he's like crap I'm getting busted right but doesn't mean it's not fascinating and this is the kind of stuff that we Wade through in droves to try and figure out you know are these animals are these creatures still out there yeah yeah I know it's running exactly like a person that's the thing about the little kid yeah but that's the thing about the Orion pendek is that they think it was like the homofloriensis I think they think it's really the same thing in the homofloriensis was really a three foot tall human or feet weird though that is a person with a stick and they're and there at that creature looks naked it doesn't look like they're shorts what's that 3ft grass or foot grass that's so weird looking somewhere between 30 and 60 in tall sets and it lives or someone kills it and you find out that it's real I'd rather not knowing and it lives meets for sure but I feel like a b**** I don't want to be right right you know what come on man just tell me and how blurry does the line get in that situation because it's it's humanoid right now it's like Ryan and put him in zoos you know what to breed them and keep the population up like like that gets really dicey

call your exploits on social media and the yellow Cayman yes that is a wild looking creature isn't it it's unbelievable was thought to be extinct it's a little confusing it's a species that was last seen in when the last one died in the zoo in the 80s and because of the region that it occupies in Columbia which is always been controlled by farc rebels nobody have been back down there to look for it and myself and there's actually amazing Colombian scientist named Sergio we're both kind of going and prodding and trying to see if we could get in and we both found it within a month of each other it was a beautiful yellow color so wildly diffuse super unique you're just holding that thing by the neck yeah we just had a little wrestling match him and ISO play tire out so they're not like mammals once they spend all their energy that's kind of it but yeah absolutely amazing are they similar to regular crocodiles or alligators in that they don't have to eat for like a year does so Cayman I mean came and don't have the at slowed metabolism as certain other species but they are at their remember the alligator family so to speak and they can go very long time so that food of crazy animal like looks like a monster the teeth on that thing swallows things basically hold yep spins to take chunks all the things swallow them whole that doesn't have to eat for a year and go underwater for how long without holding like 40 45 minutes some of them great photo Jamie from the nature is metal Instagram page from yesterday that those nuts I love that there's a great one of a Jaguar with a Cayman and its mouth that one look at the eyes of that f***** yeah go for Google that Jack is just locked in the eyes on that thing my God unbelievable is like Nature has created like in those kind of eyes that's the perfect that's the perfect vision of Terror like those eyes like locked into those eyes like there's no forgiveness there's no emotions there's just porosity and aggression and death it seems like nothing but testosterone is behind that the wrong wrong chemical seemed so focused and motivated and like you say it's just it looks like death yeah I'm sure there's some testosterone involved medication too but is a bunch of the cat s*** and there's any of the big cats and they regularly eat these ejaculate the one that we found it so great because I kind of hide-and-seek guy right like I look for them and now there's a scientist Sergio relleno down Columbia who's going to manage that species ongoing existence oh wow really cool so what is involved in that like managing their existence what is he I mean Sergio who's in the field lives in Columbia can work with the species really cool I remember there was a documentary about this guy who was the scientist who was obsessed it was a biologist news obsessed with the giant sloth and he was spending all this time down the Amazon he'd been down there for years and the documentary was following him at this stage where he was getting really frustrated and not sure if he's wasting his career right like there was this feeling like f*** this thing might not be real he's like huh you sure you saw it right to have this discussion of this thing that they saw two years ago yet big like a bear an expedition to try and find the megatherium so I have to look it up right 10 years ago now not that long ago but but you know if an academic institution is putting resources behind an expedition like that there's a lot of faith and maybe even in tell that they're not releasing publicly to say this animal still here wow that would be crazy from what I've been what I've heard what I've read your tongue about scientists and 14 foot tall walking around the Amazon site like that 14 foot tall Ugg winter here than a Kodiak grizzly that's what the reports say what is this website you pull up there article from June about the spots of information about the Mossad even saying like it exists just saying this is all the information we have about this this animal sightings people finding undiscovered or mythical creatures to turn out to be like the Tasmanian Tiger right that's a perfect example like people they love to try to fight with the thylacine try to find that thing like the idea that it's out there it's like what is it about people where it's so compelling to find a species that we were we thought didn't exist we thought was extinct like whether it's Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster or the thylacine which we know used to be real right right people out there that's so much more inviting to the general to the general populace to get an answer too then knowing oh you know there's seven hundred of them laughed and we're trying to get him up to 1,400 or whatever the species Dynamic is for some other animal as opposed to being like there could be one out there where is it and I personally I've been on two different Expeditions looking for thylacine Yeah Yeah Yeahs did one in Northern Australia up north of cans and then one I spent a couple weeks in Tasmania with a amazing biologist Nick Mooney who he's adamant that he seen thylacine and you the biologists this isn't you know someone who worked as a biologist that was out in the wilderness going yeah I seen thylacine and he was terrified to tell everybody and that's that tells me that it's more credible right if you're scared to tell people because of your reputation as opposed to like going out to going I saw it I saw it I saw it right that becomes more credible than the people who are just waving their arms and they are gonna told you it's here when did he come out of the thylacine closet scared to tell people I got to go public with this I'm not sure if he told us first or if it was probably right before then but not long ago I mean maybe 10 years ago stripes on the back cool animal yeah and the last one died in the zoo right the will the last one that we think in Hobart in Tasmania Expedition for that animals like all those other people that are kind of obsessed with it is to Papua New Guinea so this species yeah that's right all the way from Papua New Guinea down through Mainland Australia Tasmania when people came over and settled that area brought with them dogs dingoes and dingoes out-competed them in Mainland Australia and possibly in Papua New Guinea 4000 years ago but the thylacine remained in Tasmania were there no dingoes out-compete them but in Mainland Australia you got a diversity of habitats so there are places a thousand could still hide but in Papua New Guinea the terrain is so crazy that the idea is that in certain regions dingoes could have never made it there so perhaps their these isolated regions worth I look very small Austin population continued for the past 4000 years have there been sightings many but just the same kind of sidings is a giant sloth you know what I mean it's all hearsay maybe it shouldn't because they're embellishing or or you can be on the hook for someone store I totally believe this guy it's it's all real and it could be complete BS and it's just so hard to tell you just have to go with Instinct put it is incredibly compelling I mean if you really did get a nap absolute photograph of a thylacine and you you knew it was real or or caption one I think it would be the discovery of the century and I think it would kind of ship the scales for people that are on the fence about on the fence about why do I care about conservation what are care about Wildlife Management you know those kind of things to be like check this animal out something that you know last saw when we put a bounty on his head and now it's back like a tongue on by a thread like that such a message of Hope and let's save it let's bring it back

the whole environment in Australia so strange and now because of the wildfires you know there's a lot of species like those we were just talking the other day about the koala bears yeah that the koala bears while their habitat got burnt in and allow these fires behavior is pretty aggressive in Turkish and I don't know enough about them to really comment on it but my understanding is it if you'd like sea otters right do you know about this thing with sea otters what about him to like everybody loves sea otters are so cute they're so cuddly sea otters are super destructive they rape each other like they're they're like gnarly animal they're like not that sweet at all my youngest daughter is really in the polar bears polar bears are adorable and she wanted to get like a stuffed polar bear and I find it so fascinating that that animal which is the most ruthless of all bears or sure we associate with Klondike Bars and Coca-Cola everybody's Bunny and sliding around the snow and I almost wanted like show her like this is what they do to seal right show her I know she's not looking at you like that picture is his image of this sealed in the they all have red faces from blood when did they ever figure out that one polar bear that was in Russia that had been sprayed it said like t-34 on it you see it in that image right there that one Jamie I don't know about that right there someone had spray-painted T and the number 34 on the side of a bear's body and they don't know what how and that's extremely Ball Z it was spray-painted polar bear how did they do it and then with the real concern is that this bear is going to have a real hard time hunting because they're going to be able to see it much better because of the fact that it has the spray paint on the side of it I've never I've never seen the story before it's really have no idea what happened cruel joke turn deadly for predator now to visible both pray and poachers right now they have a real issue with certain towns in Siberia today like in the outskirts were polar bears are invading their like dozens of polar bears entering their towns evacuated towns because of so many polar bears being there from what I've heard you got to get out either going to kill them going to shoot them with rifles are you going to get out probably because people love them because we grew up with Teddy Bear right and we see Yogi and there's like they're so lovable on television and in the movies yet and so people have this idea of them like they want to take beer selfies like that beer selfie people being like hey why don't you like not pose with Wildlife because it's influencing other people to do that I'm like I'm a biologist my job I don't have another option here I'm working with it another option here like I have to pose with Wildlife like I'm working with it like she posted that you are the God said don't do what I do

Uber dice with an African man in the Bronx Zoo in like the turn-of-the-century they put an African man in the Bronx yes they did yeah they had an African man I believe it was the Bronx Zoo and like the 18 hundreds of the early 1900 a pygmy what year was it yeah well you know what man people were just figuring life out back then right this is the reality of human beings that we have not been alive that long and we have not been civilized in terms of how we view the world today with inclusivity and objectivity and care and you know kindness toward towards others like his compassion and altruism on a global scale histories of perfect it can show you how we progressed yeah it's a document documentation of how we progressed but yet still that will feel 50 years after slavery right that's crazy 40 45 years after slavery what the f*** guys so Bronx Zoo yet speaking in are like weird Cryptid realm reminded me of something so get this chupacabra has been attributed to the possibility that there are thylacine in North America and shears what supports that there is documented proof that however many years ago I don't remember the dates there were two breeding pair of thylacine found for the Bronx Zoo and the boat crashed into the shore and most of the animals escaped including the two breeding pair of thylacine fast forward 10 15 years you start having these Chupacabra sightings pop up in the Northeast and these animals were adapted to living in Tasmania which is a pretty similar climate to the North American Northeast and so is people that have kind of drawn these parallels and said oh the chupacabra that we reported running around you know the United States is actually a tiny Remnant population of the thylacine that were brought here for the Bronx Zoo that escaped Princeton purchase 150 2016 my Netflix special special that there's more tigers in captivity in Texas and private collections than there are in all of the wild Of The World Isn't that insane just Texas and it's like in guys living rooms in you know a cage he Hall but you can

the last time I saw you I think was right before we headed to the Galapagos I was telling you about that crazy Island we went on we found that tortoise to know that I love ya first only one specimen has ever been found before 114 years ago and we found the second one we saw that did the biggest Discovery in my entire career was the week after I saw you last Island tortoise Galapagos tortoise on his crazy active volcano on Far remote what goes with gnarly sunstroke heat stroke I mean everything and after a few days of hiking up and down this volcano we pounce cat and we founded big like a tourist have been digging and 15 minutes later we found the animals I mean how many of them are in the wild there's a return trip that just one more turn trip just went right now and then another one will go in January but what grade is on the first return trip they had to bail because of weather and the weather is very harsh there they found evidence of two more animals so things are low really good so there might be like for alive on the planet right now there's one the one we found she's literally the rarest animal in the world this it's on Instagram but it was on Forbes times New York piano everywhere it was like big big stuff so you can look up Fernandina Island and you find something like that what gets done to ensure the population remains animal on the island on the island so because you know tortoises swim at least not across the ocean so because of because of where they were if we had found it towards it was going to be the Fernandina towards not being said to Unique shell ridging the shape put her in a few super malnourished underweight dehydrated she was stuck in an isolated pocket of vegetation there's nothing but love around her is boring but there's there's a cool one where you actually see me like finder in the bushes and yeah it was has been a tortoise just chilling on this f****** Island hanging out some famous biologists flies from all the way around the world to find you terrible living conditions and she was stuck so we moved her to the fa sol Arena breeding facility which is where Lonesome George was kept that other famous tortoise she put on like seven pounds or 17 lb in like 3 weeks cuz she was so happy to eat she didn't leave her water dish for like 10 days cuz she was just so happy to see water like to find a male and do find a mail if you do find what if she's an old lady says want to f*** and you bring some mail and he's like a baby and he's like 15 and she's 80 dude water so what we had hoped when we found her was that you know maybe she'd copulated with a male 10 years prior and have been under such top environmental stress if she hadn't had the Dubai energy to lay eggs and we're thinking I'll let's get her some food get her some water who knows maybe she'll give some Offspring so she might already have fertilized eggs inside of her from 10 years ago sperm can live in them to like up to 20 years and have some serious burn him to all the food and water do they have success and taking these wild turtles tortoises and getting them to breed absolutely I think when you hear that it's bigger than your studio here I don't mean this room the whole studio you don't I mean it's all natural vegetation basically we just moved her from one Island to another where there's less stress and now if they going to mail they'll just have them together hopefully they'll be Offspring then they can release The Offspring back on the island the population can remain stable that's awesome wow so that was cool is so protected that don't they make you like put fresh shoes on like you can't bring shoes every war somewhere else that might carry seeds where to go to quarantine for 48 hours everything we brought with us had to go into a giant freezer yeah freezer there for two days and we kind of had to twiddle our thumbs just waiting and then we got all our stuff back on the boats and went out to that Island it was supposedly kills any sort of spores or get really cold if I remember correctly and they go through you know you go through everything they look they go through your booty look for NEC to go through your underwear like literally everything to see if you're bringing any contaminants in God that's so f****** cool it is so the Galapagos is really the place where Darwin started formulating a lot of his theories of evolution right with the finches in the tour crazy skeleton was that from some kind of Marine Mammal sea lion possibly way all it's hard to say they're going to beach their something and then that's in the background actually where we found the tortoise Island Man have a hard time with that laziness, Turtles

you know they were talking about Hawaii you know in all these different invasive species that live in Hawaii and there was this discussion about pigs and they were saying you know like we should really take the pigs off of Hawaii and a lot of the people in Hawaii like hang on we been here as long as the pigs right so like are we invasive-wryneck what's invasive now right when does it become because obviously like luaus they're synonymous with like eating pigs and wild pigs are a big part of you know the people that hunt and Hawaii lives of their food source so they will but then you have a situation like Lanai where I go every year steer terrible environmentally it's a disaster like it's it's all wrong on this one Island Tyrone the whole thing in an hour I mean maybe a little bit more than that but not much are so many deer plenty of food people who live there it's amazing you know it like if you don't have to have much money to eat really well right to get a rifle you go out there bang you got a deer and you can shoot as many as you want write the YouTube seven in a day and stockpile your freezer and have all your meat for the year and their dad abundant like if someone wanted to start. Yeah it's a tough argument that could because you're right like Hawaiian people pig is culturally significant to them you know just like pry access deers the people know Ian has been for however long the deer up in there but I guess it's like at what cost at what cost if and I don't think this is the case but if someone said look if I know these pigs are culturally significant to you but if we leave them here the whole island ecosystem collapse they'll be no birds no fish you know no lizards nothing is it worth it to have pigs like and it's delicate the pigs in particular records eat everything me ground-nesting birds will devastate everything everything Roots them f****** every tree everything is coming up all the sprouts and everything they're super distracted here in California Teddy buddy pegs there's so many of them right and they're all over Northern California has problem in San Jose there in people's yards they're destroying shouldn't cuz they're they if you don't kill them they just breed and breed and breed and breed and breed a breed and then they just expand right and they're dealing with him now even in the northern part of the United States are dealing with him in the Northeast was a New York Times article about it do you find that from two days ago about the expansion of wild pigs is that they're starting to make their way to the eastern states and they're just they can be stopped they can survive in any whether they breed three times a year they can they're viable I think from the time they're 5 to 6 month old have their first litter feral pigs roam the South not even northern states aren't safe to swine have established themselves in Canada are encroaching on border states like Montana and North Dakota black man if they get into Montana they'll do so much damage you know what's crazy about the feral pigs in the United States they were brought here by I believe Christopher Columbus starting with six animals so the entire 200 million or whatever it is across the u.s. I don't know the number it was like six or eight or ten original pigs that were brought in by Christopher Columbus and dropped in Florida I ended and they are terrible for the environment like they do so much damage to Native species to riparian Habitat I mean they're like said we were talking about it out there briefly and it's it's a good thing people should realize that invasive species like that should not be in an ecosystem will they certainly shouldn't be in an ecosystem when there's no balance right if there are warthogs there in Africa there's a system for that exactly like they're all they're supposed to be I grew up in Zimbabwe my uncle my mom's brother we were out on Safari one time and he was you was young younger than my mother so he's maybe a teenager or something and he grabbed this Plum and started going for a walk across camp and anyway this warthog decided it wanted this Plum and so it came trotting after my uncle and started chasing him in circles around this tree but my uncle was so panicked this thing chasing him around this big day of that treats that he wouldn't drop the plum so he's just in this Perpetual cycle of be being chased around the street until he eventually through the plum and a warthog just be ran off and went for the play lucky didn't want him running around this is why we should pull up you're going to love this animal yeah it's one of my top bucket list animals to see in the wild great name yeah garbage the middle of head yep that's crazy look at that one bro that does not look real right that's a real animal oh getting it all. FUNimation more Baton Rouge City Barber mommy and daddy do late at night why you evolve that maybe if maybe like a peacock's tail you know for Showmanship but what's really crazy about them involving those two two teeth are tossed out of there their Bridge their snout is they if they're not broken in fights and running around they can grow long enough that they will puncture the animal in the head and kill it I've heard of that an image of it on my my Instagram was one of those Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself meme Bruce's skull actually saying that it what can do that actually was driving into its own head growing into its own head yeah I like that I think it's the ground it's only going to get worse right it's already in your brain you have to get it you have to be smart enough to find a branch we could slip that over and work your head yeah I don't think I don't think that off I don't think that's happening if you're a pig is this awful I mean often that this happens when they kill themselves by growing their tusks into their brain that looks like two of them had a crazy animal what a beautiful animal Marissa which in the single Island near sulawesi used to be and then they think people have hunted him to Extinction localized Extinction within that Island in that subspecies but some people I know that worked over there 818 this wild pig with these crazy horns William Logan Barbarossa and what they said and what they ate and it's like that could be an extinct in extinct subspecies that you guys consume how many biologists are actually actively out there looking for these creatures with those I would say zero currently that species but with regards to this field of Presumed extinct animals it seems to be a movement that expanding that could be an extinct in extinct subspecies that you guys consume how many pounds are actually actively out there looking for these creatures with those I would say zero currently that species but with regards to this field of Presumed extinct animals it seems to be a movement that's expanding

are you at you're experiencing so many different facets of life on earth like you're going to all these different environments and ecosystems you're in the water and run the land and jungles are on Islands a UA Liv and Maddie Lovett living very cool I admire the jungle and I don't know enough about vehicle but it was like be season and I mean you you should see some of our videos on Instagram it's like I'm talking about covered head-to-toe and bees we were taking like 40 to 50 stings on average per day per person let you know and it has his so miserable d250 a day there's eight hours in a day all day long in the morning or evening right before waking up the rest I'm out in the field taking sting so you're taking like 25 when you wake up in like 25 before you go to bed oh my god when you doing this is there a way to prevent it is there at like can you use like a repellents or nothing work we and you know we like would like scarves over our heads and you know put my camera into anaphylactic shock they were so bad so we it comes with a switch I think my point was it makes you appreciate the comfort so much more when you get back see that tarantula hawk bird and they come out of holes in the ground hunt tarantulas like you know there's tell everybody it's the parasitic wasp right so it comes out at Hunts for tarantulas it lays its eggs I believe in the abdomen of the tarantula and then the eggs hatching explode out of the trantula and that's the life cycle beautiful fantastic complicated cruel b**** oh my God I'm sure you seen the video of those Hornets that visit this beehive they visit a honey bee hive and just start the Japanese hornets need to start chopping off the heads off the bees no way I'm telling you about off their heads off with their their mandibles write trop trop and if so much bigger so they fly in and there's a slow motion video of these enormous heart Hornets flying in and decapitating thousands and thousands of honeybees so what's interesting is the honey bees they're so outsized I mean that the Hornets are literally like 50 60 x large a much more powerful but the honeybees figured out a strategy to kill the Hornets and what they do is they surround them they get on top of them and then they beat their wings they all generate heat and then they kill thus the Hornets with the heat of their body that's unbelievable unbelievable so here's this thing that's decapitating every one of your little village right and so you have to jump on top of it and flex and heat it up but the fact that they were able to devise the strategy see look how they do it man they just grabbed a hold of these bees and just decapitate them it's unbelievable day of these horrific faces Riley's giant mandible and they're just warm in and they just honey bees apart you said it nature you cruel beautiful b**** larva larva or they want the honey they want something said look at all these dead f****** bees with no heads bizarre crazy it's not that mean it's it's just so weird right now that you know that nature devices these sort of strategies to prevent overpopulation and that there's this balance it takes place where you know the bees are threatened by something is very be like he's getting on top of them gg4 for dealing they all get on top of them CDC a bunch of them now and he's trying to get away but you can't fly away and so then they swarm and then they eventually kill him so you think that actually liked Cooks the WASP something it overheats their body and it for its how many of them are on their yeah there's something that it does wear it overheats their body how long giant insects would be the worst the worst I think would be praying mantises that we we've been on a praying mantis kick lately been watching kill rats and everything hummingbirds the hummingbird one is the wireless one they sit by a hummingbird feeder are not moving and a hummingbird comes to feed the spirit crazy Kansas Jackson's Mouse it's crazy this wild it is wild creature I see him all the time why I think we can't even imagine how strong they would be if they were our size I think they would run right through walls like 2 feet long and he's a little ass hot little ass of praying mantis and he's given up he's literally eating it yeah yeah animal that lives on another planet totally totally remember that movie Starship Troopers of course I love that movie I loved it and that was one of the things in the Starship Troopers like these big giant insect jumps out of the ground and shooting stuff out of their butts fun movie we're really fortunate those things are small that all all insects or small we would be on the menu otherwise no doubt about it like there to like indiscriminately perfect Hunters big big you know predatory insects is there a history on the fossil record of enormous bugs like isopods and things like that but I can't not that I know of like you know six-foot-long praying mantises like they're too like indiscriminately perfect Hunters big big Dino predatory insects is there a history on the fossil record of enormous bugs like isopods and things like that but I can't not that I know of is like you know six-foot-long praying mantises

interesting to me is how some animals their progress or the evolution remain stagnant like crocodiles are essentially the same way they were tens of millions of years ago where is human cissus Market changed over the last half a million years a spectacular change if you know or 2 million years ago the doubling of the human brain size really quickly special moments in evolution but then other things don't go at all but then you have these Lions they get trapped in his eye on the way bigger Buffalo something we can eat can't f****** a buffalo if you're little right and the bigger survive in those the ones that bread I mean it's so interesting to see how this stuff sort of plays out and that we're studying it and really over the last only few hundred years are really getting an understanding of it even less than that I mean we're really only starting to understand it on a big picture now yeah it is a maid and everything in between you go and ask constantly avoid just it's insane the world the living world is so fascinating if you ever seen the video of these people there in a crocodile Park and they're feeding his crocodiles in this lady's like chucking chickens like chickens out and I'll bite your leg off the light even moves rolled into legs pops right off and swallows his foot swells his buddies foot like f****** a it's it's not absolutely nuts that is a cleanup machine 65 million-year-old cleanup machine Mina's bit different size Hammer to go to Cayman you got a Nile crocodile exactly right that is a very good analogy I'm going to use that the next time that someone actually to explain that cuz that's genius this is a hammer another knife knife and knives right handle the bottom got it right it's exactly right now I think they're just so interesting. If I told you the story we when we were in my Anmar we're retracing the ram rematch are you familiar with the Remi Massacre know you'll love the soap during World War II when the Japanese were holding ramree Island in Burma Myanmar the Allied came in and started making Japanese retreat in the course of like 2 days a thousand Japanese soldiers eaten by crocodiles by saltwater crocodiles time and it was this kind of Perfect Storm of situations where because they're all these soldiers they were eating all the prey only crocodiles were particularly hungry because of that when the Allies pushed all the Japanese back into the swamps you know they started screaming and one screen would trigger all the others just like all the crocodiles to get into a frenzy and it just wiped out this entire populace of people that ran through the swamp steps to figure it out where like why did this happen to good to try and understand it better and while we were there this kid got attacked by a crocodile that was a hundred years old so probably the same animal that it eaten people during World War one or one of them right and we we save this kid's life like we got to the village and he had just been pulled out from the Croc attack his arm was broken in like 25 places he was torn up he had lacerations all over his legs ankle his arm and we should get him out of the crocodile's mouth so he fought off the crocodile basically and then the Buddy he was with fishing pulled him into the boat and got him back to the village and we had the only because we had to get to this island and this is very very remote so we got this kid on the speedboat and got him back to the hospital and he he lived I think he lost the arm but he was just going to bleed out and die right there in the village hundred-year-old crocodile there probably was one of the crocodiles that ate the Japanese people during the massacre goddamn my friend Jim Shockey was in Africa and they had hired him to hunt crocodiles that were terrorizing this one Village and people had fenced-off this area where they could get water and clean and do crocodiles figured out a way to get through that and tighten everyone in the village had like a bite mark hear a missing hand the bite on their head like these so many people had lost loved ones and friends and while he was there a woman who was washing clothes got killed by a crocodile attacks while he was in the village and these are Nile crocodile price and normous you having a 20 foot long plus huge killing machines and these are you know I try to spell anybody that says to me I owe these animals were hunting people and I'm like no not crocodiles are you know what I mean crocodiles will hunt human beings they will lock in outside of a small village or an area that someone's collecting water they'll spend weeks watching studying the pattern learning the behavior and just wait for the perfect time where they can sink under sit right there waiting for someone to gather water in my opinion they're not distinguishing. From another prey animal they just notice things coming to water here at this pattern and they will absolutely Target people 100% they don't care if your person the weird thing about people we feel like we have some sort of a deal right. Really after you run after people eat plastic movie once I get a few meals not bad plastic movie once I get a few meals not bad

it's an endless source of Fascination like Wildlife documentaries to me or just a truly an endless source of Fascination there to the choir but yeah I think they're phenomenal you so much we can learn and it's more than just what we learned oh that's cool that's a nice fact about octopus we took how we shape Jets off of the shape of birds we taken so much inspiration from nature into our everyday lives Redskin squid skin Oh my God it's like a television like the pixels on a television I didn't know squeaky do that to this is so weird oh my God they're so strange such a strange animal and the tsunami hit Thailand and then there was all these animals that they were finding that they never really seen before washed up on the shores I remember that tsunami deep sea creatures literally like combing through the streets of the cities where these where the tsunami hit head is that a richer source of bile resources of the ocean above the biodiversity I should say the Ocean than Earth has more life in the Ocean than on terrestrial and for sure yeah in general crabs in all the way into the marine mammals and all the way down to the tiny little insects are isopods that live in the ocean I think the ocean creatures are very bizarre how about those giant squid that they found oil tanker oh my God I want to show you something to learning a lot today I like this crazy alien looking squid was up I found them about those pictures have been gone around multiple times after tsunamis apparently they don't have anything to do with a tsunami they are just there real photographs of real strange sea creatures just didn't wash up on shore after tsunami what about the thing that you would saw Russians are blaming Russia squid discovered near oil rig so they had a camera deep under the oil rig and they spotted this thing with these insane long appendages look at this what is it like an insect that's very bizarre see how they have like very like obvious Benz video courtesy of Shell Oil Company doing a good job for nature depiction of what an alien species that green one right next to the know what ya look at that look at that thing I mean if you saw that underwater you would s*** your pay hundred percent hundred percent and it's a hundred feet but that the length of the actual it is was so strange and this before they got this video footage of a didn't even know something like this was real and there's there's like a lot of those where you get these deep-sea cameras and you like up there's a species we haven't ever documented before so it's in the Gulf of Mexico they caught a depth of 7800 feet but they what does it say how big do you think it is just some weird it look like the the way that the head of it sorta pulsates and moves Riley's it's like a Steven Spielberg creation is also a puppy you know the length of the 15 to 20 times the mantle 20 26 ft play but they found a few that washed up and then they got some they got some actual footage of some that's why I thought you were talking about some rigs and what about octopi what's the largest of the octopi giant Pacific octopus so two species that you saw a tacking at Eagle that's not a huge one but as far as far as I know that the largest one feet to stretch that b**** out of those ones those ones are those ones are like a hundred plus feed the giant squid Yeah a hundred plus feet they can get up to that is so nuts in it a hundred foot jelly creature you know and you know what's interesting is sperm whales will leave the surface of the ocean and dive down to their debts to hunt those cheese that's what their leaves are for Illinois so the the large Pacific octopus how big giant giant Pacific octopus how big is a car get 40 50 60 lb of my God they got a really big one to Monterey Bay Aquarium I used to think that was all total horseshit right until they found some fossilized cups they found some suction cups that were we know some fossilized evidence of enormous cups right they think are indicative of this you know real Hundred-Foot octopus Archie tarbuck an octopus or just a hundred foot squid on the surface boat hit it and it starts flapping the boat with a for the tentacles like that's not going to turn into a crazy see if you were one of those across the ocean and you 1102 some shipped a jump in the water to wash off when you get eaten by a giant octopus in front of friends what's the rip you apart it's crazy and it's totally possible that those things were huge we just don't have the fossil evidence because they're all made it a jelly right now they're just like they do the images of the the the the cops as just because it left an imprint right some sort of soils right because they're all made out of jelly right now they're just like they don't Bossa has like if you have bills fossilized the images of the the the the cops as just because it left an imprint right some sort of soil is right

did I show you that that lion that we were extracting DNA from in Zimbabwe died tell you about this I don't think so. So in late last year I was tracking this giant lion that this friend of mine had told me that he'd seen in this in Limpopo Valley of Zimbabwe like just north of the South African border and we surmise that there was a potential that this animal because it was so big had such unique behavior in the factory was hunting Buffalo and even if Steven juvenile elephant have Remnant capeline DNA in it because the cape lion was is extinct subspecies of African lions bigger than your regular line and they would follow the elephant migrations North and then back south but generally they hung out in South Africa anyway long story short we wanted to test the DNA of this line to see if it had any capeline DNA in it and it was just one individual animal we tracked it for over a week hung bait every night you know did the college did everything that you do to get it aligned in and then finally this massive black Mane lion and I I darted it from about 30 feet away from a blind you already feed but wait it gets worse I was in a blind so I felt kind of safe right but when I hit it I dosed for and it wasn't even you had a bet with us he had dosed for a regular sized African life the animal takes off running as we hit in the head in the back recorders which unit right after it on foot looking for it and we get up to it we like always down okay time to do our work up and I start walking up to it to check it as you do when you tracked an animal I get joke meter that to that television the big one right there and it pops up is like hello it's not all the way asleep and I just dropped to the ground and just go digit go limp right cuz I'm like crap this he's going to come and kill me in fortnite he was drugged up enough even though it wasn't asleep to just kind of like not know where I was and like didn't really charged but growls and came forward to step or two and then kind of turn turned off and lay back down again though we got another track went to sleep but it was really scary how big was he I think there's a did you want to show him the picture on my on my page huge I mean I don't know line weights or points are you do you need a hunting stats but unusually large biggest one I've ever seen and I grew up there huge did you get the DNA and did they run the tests we did and there was a 14% discrepancy between it and regular South African lion DNA so we couldn't quite figure out what it was and latest as you know tonight I'm not a geneticist but the latest is that sample has been sent down to South Africa to run against capeline DNA to try and figure out what the discrepancy is but yeah there was a discrepancy so there is something unique and unusual but definitely something unique and unusual to see if I can find it quickly it's a big big animal and I've got on my phone otherwise I know this is boring for but it just as it was so you talking about something is twice the size of a normal line I would say like 1 and 1/2 25 to 50% larger while I mean the pause were just it's just y'all show you on my phone I can send it to you guys but it's just huge huge big black Mane unbelievable animal is back have him on the ground when we're doing the work upset him right there putting a collar on him massive massive animal do you guys know what was a size of a sack yeah he's hung know how old he is Diamond travels around but we've got the sample which was the main objective so these to be a North American lion that was even larger than the African Lion significantly significantly crazy in the last fifteen thousand years ago want significantly significantly crazy and that was not that long A Relic when the last fifteen thousand years ago or something like that I believe it was definitely coexisted with human beings we had lions and big planes game and everything

you you like these kind of far out their ideas how do you like the side yet there's a cut there's a group of people that say the Dragons Were Real and I'll explain so it around the same time. So to speak and I'm not one of these people so I'm trying to get the details from Matt McConaughey movie but it was all a giant scaly animal that could fly so it when you take when you break that down you think about the fact that large birds had a hard time being fossilized because their bones are so porous right so because bones they have like Halo wishbones they break down very easily they don't fossilize so that the the group that says this basically they're at they're saying the evidence is the reason there's no fossils of dragons is because they had bird bones and they're actually very delicate animals but a handful of these small rats Mall a small population of these giant flying lizards existed and basically encompassed all these different countries where they all depicted fighting dragons in their own way and they were all killed off by you no nights or whatever it is and then didn't fossilize so it's like the science is saying that if there were lizard big enough to fly around and eat people they didn't have bones that could fossilized so it'd be like an eagle right and so and that's why that's why all these populations around the world have two pictures out them cuz they did actually exist now are there any stories of dragons like written like in the times of people that they have actually had the written word or is it just a Pictionary not my field is like ancient accounts told by generation after gen passed down I think whether their bones wouldn't a fossilized in these have been passed down stories have been exaggerated and passed down from generation to generation and some of them breathe fire but some of them don't depend upon which culture it was significant to wonder if what the fire with the fire supposed to represent or they just people are full of s*** right Allen I mean we know they were large flying lizards during the times of dinosaurs right the only way that I could possibly hold is that like a few of those somehow survived much later than we previously thought but I do I think that there are dragons attacking human beings and civilizations now I don't but it's still interesting it's so much cooler if there were people 2000 years ago why would people would dedicate giant chunks of their life trying to find out if pterodactyls did coexist with human beings when I Google that I remember I think the the large ones were like 40 lb or something like that I don't think they were that is really light right but their wings and fly right do anything that goes back to that hole Hollow bone type thing they're fat a lot like you pick up a chicken for what it is the to fall to kind of made them collapse yeah large gigantic ancient things 8 1/2 ft wingspan for females typically and a half feet possibly up to 10 and a few cases why female I'm trying that's still a big but a 10-foot wingspan is there a huge huge flying knives in the videos that the of the Mongols use where they they trained golden eagles to kill wolves just f*** him up and then I crazy and I believe maybe one of those cultures you have to like as a teenage boy or something like that you're right of passage is to go climb the cliff and take the check out of the nest it's like this crazy process where you know number kids died trying to get to the eagle chick and the ones that come back that's their bird for however long the bird lives or I don't really know the whole process that's right that's bananas steal the chick from the nest and raise it they figure these things out and someone was the first you know I mean someone would like to go get that baby birth I'm going to let you know we probably did because I got high off that honey get me a f****** bird have a bird do all the hunting

you know about the sunderbans in India that's a crazy Place crazy I did a bit about that my act as well back in 2009 my Comedy Central special work over a. Of 200 years I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 300,000 people have been killed by tigers in the singer bands isn't that not I mean it's just like that. Number it's on it's unfathomable there's a store that I talked about in my in that set where there was a boat filled with five guys and one tiger swim about killed the guy drags by the shore jump back in the water swam out to the boat with 3 different guys until he got tired of killing people that's insane 252 guys lost this crazy little habitat and I know a couple photographers would have been in there no you don't see anything like huge tall Tufts of grass you know everything can hide perfectly and it's all there and you just don't see it coming a f*** and bunch of people living in these hot suggest Villages have no protection but you said something earlier today about how your friend projected the wolf howl into the young guy friend that guy turn the wolf expert but what I love Isis finds that those non-conflict mitigations are going to be the wave of the future by using technology to come up with bio-control like a wolf growl to other wolves or you know what an alarming sound or smell the animals don't want to interfere because of territories I think that stuff is fascinating it is yeah I agree it is interesting and I think one of the cool things about all this wild is that if we handle it correctly we can make sure these things are sustainable and they stay around we can we can still be just marvel at their presents Jeff and you know this is it is possible to keep wolves hear ya it's possible to keep grizzly bears here it's possible to keep all these things here and we really really really really should. Because of you go back in time and how amazing would it be if we could go back in time and see Sabertooth tires. Incredible to be able to see please animals you only see depictions of Reese's skulls of the you know they were caught in the La Brea Tar Pits or something like we have those things right now we are now a lot of them and save them and we have the the knowledge the power the technology the tools that Finance we have all the pieces of the puzzle to make it work I think that's one of the really cool things about what you do is you you broadcast all the stuff and then let people know and you have a big signal and you showed me of all this cool stuff like that toward us that you found like all these other different animals and you let people know if this is this is an interesting as exciting as is and it's something that it's like it's in our DNA to be fascinated by other life-forms right and it's worth saving no one left now they killed all those f****** yeah possibly I don't to get down a weird Rabbit Hole here possibly in Mexico the silver grizzly bear in the Hyatt High Mexican Ciara's ongoing reports of Grizzlies for the same species that would have been here right that hung out in the Sierras traveling all the way down into the Sierra Madres of Mexico and then and he's what they call Sky Islands if you're familiar with that term these islands of isolated habitat up in the sky where they get more rain everything else there's there's big tracks of private land down there in Mexico where a couple of these farmers are like something's killing my cattle and it's not a mountain lion and it could potentially be like half a dozen Mexican grizzly bears couldn't be get Jaguars though but they're saying it's not reported sightings of seeing Bears 20 years before another one was killed Google Mexican grizzly bear I need to see this so what's that I'm trying to find something like this is just pictures of grizzly bears years this I don't know but take a look at when the last one was killed and then if you if you can find it see where it says they were extinct and it's many many years later took the parade of some sort it's not long ago so you know there's reported on these giant tracks of private land up in these mountains there's potentially a very small population of Mexican grizzly bears wow which I think is fascinating and it's one of those things that I don't think it's like so crazy they don't think anybody's gonna looked you know what I mean like if some Rancher who owns half a million acres in Mexico's like you do right but maybe he does like who's gone to vestigate up in the high mountain peak areas of the million acre ranch well there's not supposed to be grizzly bears in Colorado but my friend Adam Greentree who is a very experienced Outdoorsman he was hunting in the San Juan mountains and he got a grizzly bear filmed no on camera he's he's looking at it through a scope and he be documented on his Instagram page and he's like that is a f****** Grizzly well there's a there's sightings of them from the path that was when he was getting chased by one but that was in I believe that was in either Idaho or Wyoming places were they known about grizzly bears his sighting of this is when he's like he's holding up a gun and if the female cat Bluff charge him see her standing there in the background oh yeah the wrong caliber bullet in his gun so it didn't really load all the way into the pistol and he didn't know that until after this altercation so even if he had like pull the trigger and nothing would have happened right no bueno but she Block charge them she got within like 30 feet a couple of times the wrong caliber bullet in his gun so it didn't really load all the way into the pistol and he didn't know that until after this altercation so even if he had like pull the trigger and nothing would have happened right no bueno but she Block charge them she got within like 30 feet a couple of times

parts of the world where people are willing to harvest things like that like how they figure that out who was the first guy is like you see how f****** beehive up there right yeah I mean 9 10 ft long do there so bit my friends Jon and Jan they live in Alberta and Hulu went sturgeon fishing and they caught him and put them on their Instagram page and you look at it like that is a prehistoric dinosaur ride creature that thing is enormous those big scale down the sides and down the back in the weird mouth and whiskers are bizarre something about the way you looking at them I don't feel like you should be catching that right like too old how do you think that that might be one of the others there's a lot of North American things that they think are monsters like Nessie you know I like the Loch Ness monster they also have like ones in Lake Michigan what are they called Lake Champlain devil Lake Champlain one and they think that it might be sturgeon oh and ready for sea cuz you know specially cuz totally totally you know that this is kind of interesting they actually had documented bull shark stuck in the Great Lakes gas I heard about that from Louisiana up rivers and sharks that can breathe fresh water riversbend time the rivers go back to the ocean to hunt the inspiration for the movie Jaws was apparently bull sharks in New Jersey the series of attacks in freshwater on a river system right but near an ocean I believe I had a river mouth yeah yeah that was my understanding going into the river and these bull sharks were killing them right like in a river they're just jacked up they're just ready all the time like their shoulders are sore locked and they just they look ready at any time to just snap yeah they found them all the way up in like Illinois yeah yeah it's crazy Slytherin are now in place they just I think the idea was that they got stuck there when they were building the locks and they died out overtime when did when was the last known sighting of one two years ago Texas where might be an a****** in Ohio they found them really Ohio Ohio how did it get in Ohio great nnn spawn there a Target on my back gigantic f****** bear waiting to catch me in the air right like those images of bears catching them with their mouths as the salmon or flying through the air tram make it up the six but it's so weird like what a weird system it's like Nature's is sharing robustness there sure is sharing that these fragile fish don't make it right in order to be able to make that trip to the ocean and back to go do the rivers and streams to survive you have to be rugged bright and so there is a Upstream swimming against the current by the way here's a f****** 1800 lb they're looking to eat you Annette. Ruins that whole ecosystem for that River in the Bears in the salmon this morning and yeah we can remedy it we put salmon ladders in and yada yada but it's it's interesting that everything seems so tough as you just said and at the same time it's so fragile because we know we do one thing I put in a hydroelectric Dam and it ruins the entire ecosystem yeah we were in Seattle and Seattle there's a place we can go and it's like underneath this bridge and there's these clear plexiglass walls and you can actually see the saint oh cool way through and up the river and they were explaining how they had put dams in and didn't really understand the consequences of putting these dams back when they did and then all these salmon would go to the mouth of the river where they thought their going to go upriver and it would be blocked right so the population drastically diminished and died in like in the harbor like really wild stuff is crazy not just like the Bears and the bird feel like the whole Rivers ecology right like the river the algae's that live in the river the little bugs that live in the algae depend on those salmon dying up that River and fertilizing the river so it's like the whole thing is so interconnected and then you know one little thing and did you really crazy do you write like the river the LG's that live in the river the little bugs that live in the algae depend on those salmon dying up that River and fertilizing the river so it's like the whole thing is so interconnected and then you know one little thing and did you guys really crazy

you see that video of the octopus that in caption Eagle the captured in Eagle gas it was in Vancouver Island I didn't know the octopus at capturing eagle and was trying to eat the eagle in these fishermen saw the struggle and released the eagle from the grasp of the octopus to me is like holy crap to me it's weird like why you getting involved in this right it's not like right like people want to think that Eagles are an endangered species they are absolutely not endanger do you go to Alaska there like pigeons up there there are a lot of them there Pacific octopus they're amazing Eagle might not make it anyway look at them briody's f*** you don't want water in the monkey people I don't even know how but like what octopus can do is nothing short of spectacular you know we're talking about my friend Remi Warren earlier and he had a show on television before call apex predator and it was basically they would study apex predators and you know the different strategies they used to be successful as a hunter and when they did the one on the octopus he know he was in here and like he was like dude they're from another planet yeah he's like that is the way they change their texture friend their color and the way they do it instantaneously to adapt to their environment how well they blend in there so interesting I think they're the most alien creature that exist on Planet Earth there's a new documentary out on I think it's PBS cold making contact that's just about octopus intelligence is a guy is a Fisheries biologist and he gets an octopus and basically lives with it and it's living room like he figures out that this thing likes being petted like it knows how to the diverse array of things that this thing can process mentally it's like on par with like what chimpanzees do you know what I mean it's like it just like you can open jars that can close them could come out of the aquarium go back into it swim over if it knows you it knows if it doesn't like you like it's unbelievable yeah really weird right octopus dreaming I just looked it up and it starts with the living room in relation to whatever the f*** is going on in his head right right so Wildman it's just so weird how they can instantaneously change their coloration and their texture and then perfectly blend in with coral right like when you see them like stop on a coral reef and just become the refill like what are delayed Isaac like look I believe in life outside of Earth but I don't I don't necessarily think that octopus came from that I think they're you know they have other stuff like there are other cephalopods that they're related to genetically squid and cuttlefish and things like that I don't necessarily think they came from outer space but I can see why there's science to support that it's a possibility and then I can also see why people think that seeing them will their thoughts about that with a lot of different life-forms like spores thoughts about that when it comes to psilocybin yep there there's like we're the real freaky psychedelic heads think that psilocybin mushrooms came from asteroid right end and the the proof in the pudding in that one so to speak is the fact that you can take mushroom spores into the vacuum of space and bring them back to Earth in there they still they still fruit Austin Elon space weed SpaceX look at that little eyeballs how weird and look how many of them like I was getting Invasion imagine if your wife gave birth to that many people. Thanks you be like I have a school are we going time in human evolutionary time the more it seems like it's an accurate accurate like we're getting more and more plugged in everyday it's like a combination of the Matrix and The Terminator what was the one that did what they had them over a chessboard and was trying to make everything that we're trying to mimic a chessboard at school is really weird because it throws a system off because it's many right angles and it's this hard trans-fast A10 contrast so when you look at it like this octopus like trying to figure out what to do very strange pictures I mean that's pretty good like pretty f****** good yeah that's pretty impressive ability that these animals have unbelievable figured out how the f*** did that evolve right there devising strategies in order to be more effective Predators while they're in the ocean and hide from other Predators right and they figured out a way to change the color in the texture their skin like how long did that take exactly exactly Bob right there devising strategies in order to be more effective Predators while they're in the ocean and hide from other Predators right and they figured out a way to change the color and the texture their skin like how long did that take exactly exactly millions of years

did you watch the Kobe Usman fight. The whole thing is crazy I'm reading a Trina f****** Buck I mean he's lucky I give up I give it up to that guy for a lot of reasons first of all he was his back was against the wall that the UFC was telling them they're going to cut him out to this fight with Damien my they don't like his style they think he's boring they literally told that to him so he goes in the ring after the fight calls Brazilians a bunch of filthy animals does a bunch of crazy s*** and the next thing you know he's got this f****** character we're making fun of a suit and next thing you know he's one of the most popular guys in the f****** Sport and talkingshit and that was only three fights ago man has a massive adjustment why did you laugh when you found out that he didn't cuz it's a storyline Out of the Furnace we haven't had a guy that put on a character like that before he's the first a little bit you know he's doing it on purpose. He's wearing cheap suits play hilarious man is hilarious and three scorecards or on two judges scorecards they hadn't three-in-one so three rounds to Usman on one judges score three rounds to Colby on another judges scorecard yeah it was that goddamn clothes in 2 and 2 with the last judge this is another example of being crazy crazy but there's another example why we should have more judges more than three judges that makes sense 8 good number 9 would be a good number because nine to be like a tiebreaker 51 or 411 I feel like threes ridiculous like why do you only have three you know the judges suck already so why do you only have three people that's inactive

that's one thing that I like talking to people at telling people they're like all this so difference of this and that about blonde like guys boxers MLB NBA NFL they had they had the set schedule they have a set schedule like I can sit down sit down before you what is named after a fight they already would kind of know who they fighting you know MMA fighters that I don't you know what's going on cuz I have no clue right but could be for the title I was 170 170 day of the week cut and I and I tell you exact number was before they stopped me but I was like in reach like I was right there but they came in the room and looked at me they said they said yeah you don't look good prepared for a man I mean I mean like I'm in the New York cards. Don't have a lot of luck at all I need to just be around him all the time just ready to catch him please this is V f****** time to schedule this fight you think some good places like it's just it's hard like you don't understand it like it's it's very hard when you fight someone weird and awkward even Spartan because you try to get something and then he's like banging his elbow but his head is like by the ground is what are you doing I don't know of anybody that's more unorthodox than him for sure cardio man is cardio's crazy off the chain off the Charles I know I've never seen anybody I don't know what the f*** it is no man is carios crazy off the chain off the Charles I know I've never seen anybody like that I don't know what the f*** it is you think that's genetic 100%

that's one of the cool things about the sport is there so many different ways to do it I thought she opened up in a swift kick to the head and had all those staggering little bit although covered up and weather the storm and then although start putting the pressure on him and all those started hitting them with big punches and really was controlling the center of the Octagon really pressuring him and being very aggressive and then got taken down the last couple of seconds of the first round but nothing happened he just take took him down and hold them in my mind that shouldn't mean much and I don't mean that that doesn't mean anything trading in an MMA cuz I understand how I can beat somebody up for 4 minutes and 50 seconds and you you take the last 10 second you take me down for last 10 seconds and you win do you win the wrong and if you're not going to take down submission something but with Marlin and Jose Aldo they gave that first-round tomorrow and it's on the basis of that high kick some strikes landed but I thought I'll do did more than I said although did more in the second round and I thought I thought I won the fight I thought it was closed but I thought I'll do one the fight at they was more aggressive oh yeah whatever you wanted then you just drain the s*** out of himself but he had sometimes during his career was going to have to go up to 55 35 was crazy but what I saw when I saw him when he was posing and get ready for muscles look real good what did I say or or whatever early in the week even worked out with him at the same workout room for one night and we worked out together and when I shook them she had to pull in a hug first water when you touch someone I don't know how you going to do this way cuz girl you don't need peace be with people don't think that right I mean we had a conversation about that with the f*** is his name that wasn't Dolce was the other guy you can suck you can suck water out of someone who's muscular got his muscle muscles going to let go underwater but you got fat fat is going to hold on different guys look on the scale versus the next day like Lombard was it a good example like when he would make 170 he will he looks so much smaller on the scandal in the next day black f*** doesn't understand was it a good example like when he would make 170 he will he looks so much smaller on the scandal in the next day black f*** you put water into that boy my God you look like a balloon

when you had that situation happened where you know they were running a bunch of tests on you they couldn't figure out what was wrong with you what do you think was going on cutting weight the time to even the water thing it wasn't even before the fight you know we drink the load of water you know and I didn't dare like a couple days pass and it just wasn't going away you know and then and you're not he's like a Behavioral Science Guy and he's probably like watching this treatment of squirming while I'm talking about it but we got you know it like we got stuff going on and work on like with Laura's and stopping we plan on suing somebody so there's a bunch of stuff that I really can't talk about it that's why he's growing back there until you let me know so I doubt we see the one that's great things that I love with the team is that for me I'm all about keeping and maintaining maintaining and I mean thing for me is his fighting and making sure whoever is in front of me whatever cupcake it is I told joy that cupcake that's beautiful that's that's the way to do it you know if you can have a good team and you know people that train themselves let you know I'm like it's crazy can't do that I talk to my I talk to them I talk to my team like I love the chaos like I love chaos around me little bit but then they make it so simple and it's great but I kind of stood like to put myself like I like when things ain't in order you know like when you come to my house I love that my room is messy play come clean it later on but like I just love the chaos theory do you like things going perfectly till weird everything goes perfect I guess I'm just different now that is a different way of looking at things that you like a little bit of a little bit of chaos I like to know that there's no like and I'd like to know the things are crazy in random so I can appreciate my fortune I love that life is so unpredictable and Strange Life is unpredictable